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Nothing to see here. Just a hypersonic demo. Well, not really. The average American is only capable of making (some sort of) sense of the world through movies. So let’s go back to a classic: the opening sequence of Coppola’s Apocalypse Now – the Vietnam war counterpart to Joseph Conrad’s Heart of Darkness, set in the Congo.
In the movie, Captain Willard (Martin Sheen) is barely capable of enacting a drunken soliloquy alone in his room in Saigon. He’s waiting for his assignment: a special mission all the way to the Heart of Darkness (in the movie, represented by the illegal American incursion/indiscriminate bombing of Cambodia).
Willard, in the V.O., barely mutters, “Every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker and Charlie gets stronger.” Charlie, out in the jungle, was how American GIs referred to the Vietcong.
Cue from the “American war” – how the Vietnamese refer to it – to the US/NATO proxy war in Ukraine.
The American Empire is now a drunken Captain facing the (revamped) jungle – as qualified by that stupid Spaniard Borrell, the exiting EU foreign policy “chief”. Every minute Captain stays in his decrepit garden – the counterpart to a seedy room in Saigon – Charlie, out in the jungle, gets stronger.
What’s even more ominous is that Charlie, now, is not the Vietcong. Charlie now is nuclear, hypersonic Russia.
Captain America believed it would intimidate Russkie Charlie with the “authorization” straight out of the Deep State for Ukraine to attack targets inside the Russian Federation with ATACMS.
Such attacks had already happened in the past on Russia’s new territories. Still, two new ones were unleashed after the “authorization”, against Kursk and Bryansk; one with ATACMS, and the other with Storm Shadows.
Then came the inevitable Russian response. What was that? New multiple hypersonics? Zeus? Superman?
Deputy Chair of the Security Council, Dimitri “Unplugged” Medvedev, could not resist concise trolling; “So that’s what you wanted? Well, you’ve damn well got it!”
Collective West rats were predictably scurryin’ all across the spectrum after watching what was first interpreted as a RS-26 “conventional warheads package” demo.
Then President Putin went on the record.
Key takeaways: Western long-range weapons have been used against Russia, which retaliated with the new, medium-range, ballistic hypersonic “Oreshnik” system against the Yuzhmash factory in Dnipropetrovsk; additionally, the use of long-range weapons by the enemy cannot affect the course of the Special Military Operation (SMO).
But this was the key relevant message Putin relayed to the Americans, NATO and the collective West:
“We are conducting combat tests of the Oreshnik missile system in response to the aggressive actions of NATO countries against Russia. The issue of further deployment of medium-range and shorter-range missiles will be decided by us, depending on the actions of the United States and its satellites. The targets for destruction during further tests of our newest missile systems will be determined by us based on threats to the security of the Russian Federation. We consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against the military installations of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities. And in case of escalation of aggressive actions, we will also respond decisively and in a mirror manner. I recommend that the ruling elites of those countries that have plans to use their military contingents against Russia seriously think twice about this.”
Sir, would you like some hazelnut salad?
The initial interpretation of this de facto game-changing move was that Russia had launched a single RS-26 Rubezh road mobile missile against the Yuzhmash missile production factory in Dnepropetrovsk, equipped with six independent, non-nuclear (italics mine) warheads, each in turn deploying other warheads (call it 6×6 = 36).
That in itself changed the “essence” of the war in Ukraine, as Putin himself had previously recognized when it comes to the “authorization” for attacks by ATACMS.
Putin’s speech established that Russia in fact used a completely new medium range (1,000 to 3,000 km) missile, the Oreshnik (“Hazelnut). Even US officials admitted it’s an “experimental” system; that implies they knew something about it.
Putin himself also referred to “combat testing”. What is established beyond any testing, in Putin’s own words, is that “Hazelnut” may be sent as a gift to any target across NATO.
Oreshnik is as badass as missiles get. It may reach the UK in only 19 minutes; Brussels in 14; Berlin in 11; and Warsaw in 8 minutes. And, of course, traveling at over Mach 10, it simply cannot be intercepted by anything in the collective West arsenal. That includes the US.
ORESHNIK HYPERSONIC MISSILE: RUSSIA'S UNSTOPPABLE RESPONSE TO NATO ACTIONS
Type: Medium-range ballistic missile system with non-nuclear hypersonic capabilities.
Speed: Reaches Mach 10, equivalent to 2.5–3 kilometers per second.
Countermeasures: Modern air defense and missile… https://t.co/nBbP0eA8F3 pic.twitter.com/XmECUqZwFb
— Sputnik (@SputnikInt) November 21, 2024
High destructive power is a given – already guaranteed by the surprise factor; you only know what hits you after you get hit (maybe). One potential option is that Oreshnik targeted secret underground workshops at Yuzhmash, where NATO had sent equipment and parts for short-range ballistic missiles (500 km to 1,500 km).
In his four books and in his blog, the indispensable Andrei Martyanov has made it clear that “Russia has an overwhelming conventional escalation superiority” compared to the Hegemon. So, yes: this testing of an IRCM (a conventional missile) with hypersonic MIRVs (Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicles) may be just a demo – a preview of what else may be in store.
Martyanov: “NATO has zero capability to stop Russia’s long-range fires.” The “demo” also happens to be paired with a new shot at making war a relatively civil affair: Moscow will warn civilians of any impending Oreshnik strike. Those that won’t leave will do so at their own peril.
As Martyanov remarked, “this is not anymore just SMO”. Indeed: for quite a while we have been way past a special military operation: this is a do-or-die NATO v. Russia hot war. Aggravated by the fact that the Hegemon’s ruling elites are congenitally incapable of stop escalating.
Even the Oreshnik demo won’t stop escalation. A plausible scenario is that US military intel learned about an impeding Russian mid-range ballistic missile strike and then informed Kiev and NATO. Moscow then warned the US 30 minutes before the strike (that’s the norm, to prevent nuclear misunderstandings); the Americans not only confirmed it, but stressed there was no risk of a Russian nuclear attack on Kiev, now or in the foreseeable future.
Oreshnik in fact is a tacit demo that Russia does not need nuclear power to solve anything in the Ukrainian theater of war.
So let’s assume that escalation has been controlled – for now. Yet we still have nearly two months of a completely deranged US administration in power. NATO’s congenital dementia suggests escalation will continue. The difference though is stratospheric: now they don’t know if Oreshnik handing them a business card comes with a nuclear bomb on or not.
For all the inbuilt dementia of the current – exiting – administration, Americans who only understand the world via movies may have forgotten that it was Trump 1.0 who withdrew the US from the INF treaty, in 2019. If the US had remained, Russia would not have been able to develop and use Oreshnik.
But now it’s hazelnut salad time, everybody; a great way to regulate blood pressure.
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good missile, wrong target:
should have hit a US/NATO target.
Eternally beating up on the Ukes will not deter the International Jew-state from further escalation.
imagine if they weren’t just firing “blanks” but in this day and age of mach 10 hypersonic missiles, you almost don’t need tactical nukes, you can produce a similar scale of destruction without the radioactive fallout, through kinetic energy alone, f=ma. imagine when they bring out the next generation approaching mach 20.
when the u.s. threatened to sink the russian fleet, if they dare used tactical nukes, the russians responded with, well how about these, are they o.k?
I have to admit that I was afraid President Putin would not respond appropriately and would again let the west totalitarian regimes walk on his feet.
I was reassured when I read his speech and saw his response.
http://www.rt.com/russia/608008-putin-ukraine-full-speech
Of course, most western populations will never have a clue of what all that means if they keep taking their news from their lying mainstream media as Glenn Greenwald declared:
“Western censorship of Russia worse than of USSR”
http://www.rt.com/news/608004-west-censorship-greenwald-tucker/
At least Russians knew that the Pravda was peddling propaganda and fake news, it seems modern westerners can’t make the difference between news and fables.
Putin’s response was smart, contrary to the vulgar sabre rattling from western dwarves from DC to Warsaw, passing by London, Berlin and Paris.
I don’t think the psychopaths who own all the NATO clown “leaders” will stop there, they will certainly try to escalate further, they have zero consideration for human life and not even for the life of their owns (if they have any).
I also think Trump is involved, as mentioned in the article by Pepe Escobar, he’s the one who pulled out from the INF treaty and he hasn’t done anything during his tenure to stop the escalation in Ukraine.
He has again nominated war hawks and zionist puppets and he hasn’t uttered a word on the wicked stab in the back lame duck Biden did to his ‘projects’ by allowing a Jewish dictator to use long range missiles against Russia.
Very strange, I would be him, I would tell the world how much I disagree and how much I would end this as soon as I am president.
The endless war is not only good for the business of the criminals who profit from it (Blackrock, the military industrial complex, Zelensky and his oligarchs and the rotten and miserable class of US politicians), it’s also a godsend for all would be dictators in Europe.
They love economic crises, emergency powers, restrictions, social engineering, population control, censorship and destruction of fundamental rights as they showed us during their last major manufactured crisis, the covid plandemic.
This never ending war allows them to further the ‘great reset’/agenda 2030’ plans they started during the covid scam.
They started the porn fear again and even started to distribute leaflets in lemur populated countries like Sweden to explain how to protect during wartimes (and plandemic times too).
But since racism and greed are irremediable, the idea of the promoters of the end of the world for the Non-Humans must be to build deeper bunkers for those who can afford them.
There will also appear some fool capable of thanking Trump’s intelligence for removing the ban on these missiles in time. Others will curse that Russia does not have to use nuclear weapons to be on par with the Khazarian bullies of the West.
Others say missiles are only a problem for Europeans.
The great British historian Mark Felton is concerned. He just posted a great video at his popular YouTube channel mocking the inept British government and explaining how Russian aircraft can blast unprepared Britain.
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Felton is a gentleman and I like his historical videos, but he seems to ignore what’s happening in Ukraine and the Middle East. He does not even mention hypersonic missiles and seems to expect a Top Gun remake of The Battle of Britain.
Westerners are so used to being unchallenged. The US is the worst, they seem to assume WW 3 will be the same as WW 2 for them, in that they will make a profit supplying weapons to others and send their armies “over there” to keep the violence away from home.
Speaking of Martyanof:
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He also says that oreshnik means hazel grove!
It’s worth watching…
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…the UnterseeKreig is about to begin.
English historians are always elliptical.
It’s on now.
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Thank you, sir.
It’s an interesting and relatively economical twist on “Rods from God.”
Shared from the comment section of Martyanov’s blog:
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/
ATACMS, Attack Ems, perhaps the most infantile name ever given to a weapon of war by the five-sided looney bin.
Putin’s response,
reflects a mature assessment of the situation. Unlike the smarmy “leaders” of The West as exemplified by GWBush,
The NeoCon war mongers that are driving U.S. actions will face an eternity in the deadly flames they so cavalierly endorse. I hope and pray that when Russia, China and others are standing on what’s left of this country they will realize that some of us opposed the insanity that has taken our nation by storm.
The greatest lie I was fed growing up as a UStard was the importance of piloted aircraft and air launched missiles. Then the Iraqi resistance largely ejected the US while the Taliban forced the US into surrender via war exhaustion.
Ballistic missiles with a regionally relevant range are proving to be far more practical and economical.
Iran has weapons that can strike Israel without requiring any intermediate carrier vehicle, while the Zionist entity needs planes, and those planes require refueling…
The technology advantages the US enjoyed in the 90s and early 00s have been squandered and countered. Technology outran the US government’s ability to attempt to contain it.
The rather open affection between Russia and North Korea ought to be making it clear to the UStards and their vassals that even if escalation remains largely conventional, there will be fronts in both Europe and Asia.
The weakness of Russia attacking Western Europe is that historically its people expect war. Not now, please, but we all know what our ancestors went through.
The place to attack is the USA – just think of the 9/11 hysteria magnified 100-fold. A non-nuclear strike that destroyed the Pentagon might be rather effective. But would it be too risky for the Russkis?
If Putin worries about nuclear retaliation he might also avoid Britain and France. So I’d guess that Berlin, Frankfurt, Munich might be tempting targets if it’s cities he wants to hit – but perhaps best would be Brussels, HQ of the EU and NATO. If he could demonstrate that he could destroy targets as specific as those two, without destroying other parts of the city, then yowee!
If his targets were specific factories, communication centres, or military bases then he has a near infinite choice. Why not start with those two Brussels targets, Vladimir?
“You have the wrong number Ivan!”
The stock exchanges in Europe and the US rely on instant communication of prices with no lag.
Just cut the fibre optic cables that facilitate that smooth communication. Satellites can’t replicate the speed well enough.
Various actors can then short stock and corner commodities.
There are some unique technologies that Russia has and the West doesn’t which means escalation dominance is largely in Russian hands.
A further thought is that Western politicians operate quite impulsively not really thinking through about consequences. Really there are too many examples of this to count but in this case the US withdrawal from the INF treaty in 2019 enabled the Russians to develop Hazel Grove in 5 years. In those 5 years the US developed…nothing yet it was the US that withdrew from the treaty. I’m sure Western politicians felt good all inside in 2019 to be seen as in charge but it’s almost 2025 and the Russians have Hazel Grove and the West doesn’t.
Think about it! The West, by their own decision, withdrew from a treaty that actually was more to their benefit than to the Russians!-and no-one in the West protested! AND in five long years, the West never even began a technological program to develop weapons for the post-INF reality!-a reality they themselves decided for!
Western policy-makers live in an echo chamber.
Western “leaders” believe their own PR and are blinded by their hubris and arrogance…which goeth before the fall.
Lying abed, listening to the BBC. On comes the most fraudulent, yet hilarious, ‘voice message’ from an heroic Banderite soldier, near the Russian border. So ‘near’ that he must whisper.
What does he want? Why, every weapon known to NATO, NATO and US bases in Banderastan, and the return of ALL precious ‘Ukrainian’ territory, that’s all. And he even uses the familiar Western MSM presstitute cliche’-Russia’s ‘full-scale invasion’. If I was Vlad, I’d spare the BBC HQ in London-they’re just too, too, entertaining in their Russophobe insanity.
Decades of US subservience to the Zionazi regime, where TOTAL, groveling, obeisance to the Judenreich decides a political career, has, consequentially, reduced the ruling US ‘elite’ to a rabble of spineless sycophants and imbeciles-just how the Jewintern prefers its Sabbat Goyim.
Agreed. I was following The Saker’s- and Martyanov’s blogs before the war began. There were observers who caught on that Russia was preparing it’s armed forces to fight in ways that would frustrate Western military theory. Emphasis on air defense, missile technology and using Russia’s own air force carefully with emphasis on standoff weapons. The Ukrainians seemed to be on the same page, but NATO sold them a Western way of war, which did not help.
‘Censorship”??!! Don’t be daft! We in Austfailia enjoy FULL MSM freedom. It’s just that NOTHING good ever happens in Russia, China, Iran etc to report, and only the bad things, ie EVERYTHING, get reported by our world leading MSM truth-tellers.
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You need to pay more attention to what the Russians are saying. They’ve threatened Britain with nuclear annihilation more than any other country since the start of the SMO. Britain will get hit first and it couldn’t happen to a more deserving country.
yeah, the fakery is outta bounds, a phrase like “full scale invasion” is used by politicians not by ordinary soldiers in the trenches. Yup, I’m sure Polish soldiers in 1939 used the term; “Germany’s full scale invasion” or the Vietnamese described their situation as “America’s full scale invasion”-NOT!
Just goes to show what the BBC is. And incredibly Scopes et al recommends the BBC, CNN and other such minions as sites that combat fake news without batting an eyelid-hey but at least we are entertained; after all the BBC is known for comedies.
The Ukrainians being ex-Soviet would have an officer corps trained according to Soviet tactics and doctrine but these guys would have a tough time keeping a career…after all everything Western is so much superior (snark). Most ex-Soviet or formerly Soviet allied states (except Russia of course and some Central Asian stans) purged any independently-minded professional officers in favor of Western-trained asslickers…after all everything Western is so much superior (snark). The result being that Western technological and doctrinal superiority is so evident in this war (snark).
I have to laugh when I read commenters who try and confuse the rest of us as to what Putin will do, and cast doubt on Russia and their ability to chart their own course. I find Putin’s speeches direct and confident, matter of fact, this-for-that. They are ahead of the rest of the world in military superiority, it is clear. What is not clear is by how much. We would be making a grave mistake trying to find out. It is a great relief (I can’t believe I’m typing this) to find that Putin could probably clean our clock conventionally; maybe peace through strength is possible, at least for a while.
They won’t do it because it would cost them many cities. The trade off is far too poor.
Add to that the fact that it’s all about air supremacy for NATO. They expect Ukrainians to fight without the thing they consider most important, it shows just how callous the tame Western housepet strategists are.
A strong case can be made that Britain is an aggressor, so Article 5 goes out the window. That means you Limeys would have to get your own Trident missiles in the air, except that “getting it up” seems to be a massive issue for your country.
What makes you think your missiles will even hit one? The Russians routinely shoot down your Storm Shadows and you need US help to hit anything. Overconfidence really is an amusing British trait.
“…it was Trump 1.0 who withdrew the US from the INF treaty, in 2019. If the US had remained, Russia would not have been able to develop and use Oreshnik.” But China, not being a signatory to the treaty, would have no such restriction.
Bingo!
That fact removes the western propaganda argument that Russia can only win against NATO by going nuclear and that going nuclear is out of the question.
It doesn’t matter. The capacity to degrade NATO military assets remains the same. As an additional bonus, the wanton murder of civilians as a terror war tactic will not be necessary. How will the USA military elite ever cope?
Some useful speculation, this YT channel also has interesting perspectives on the Sukhoi-57.
Hate to agree with you, Mulga, but,
I can tell you from personal experience as an apprentice groveller in the political/military structure of the 1970’s US government that the scientific lobotomies performed on up-and-coming Americans of the vast interior either drove you out or drove you to zombie status.
Yuzhmash, Oreshnik and combined arms, Andrei Martyanov’s latest:
He is mentioning again that he estimates a million Ukrainian KIA since the beginning of the SMO.
Having just viewed Scott Ritter’s latest video, where he lays out in essence what the Oreshnik hit just boiled our options down to (capitulate, be defeated in a conventional war, or go nuclear), I am greatly concerned for the future. There is no winning a nuke exchange, in spite of what the Pentagon says. The theory of nuclear winter is a real prospect, and only the hardiest of souls will last the estimated 3 years of the sun appearing only as bright as a full moon on the best of days. I am counting on the fact that anyone in the military arena knows we cannot go there, but prefer to stir chaos in the population.
Very eye opening. The war department of the US needs to sober up. Our citizens all need to get the education I have been getting this past year. And importantly, we need to end ZOG, especially the media propaganda, which does not reflect what the average thinking citizen wants for this country.
Agreed. The US is beginning to feel like a dictatorship, with the dictator as an unseen force. No thanks to the media propaganda, very few understand what is driving the changes to our (former) Republic. When you are digging yourself into a hole, you stop digging. Unfortunately, the average citizens are not the ones manning the shovels, and are largely unaware of how deep the hole is. Knowledge is power, and sheep need waking. Barring that, it only gets worse.
Agreed. The million KIA claim is ugly, but it’s plausible, and it shows what is meant by attrition warfare. Think WW 1. Three years of the SMO with Ukrainian soldiers getting bombed from basic training camps all the way to the trenches.
As for ZOG, that is much more difficult. The only solution would be genocide, and I don’t think most keyboard warriors including myself are really willing to get their hands that dirty. So the US is stuck with Israel, and mankind is stuck with the Jews.
No way, like a wet dog or a bear shaking off water, it is possible. Must admit, though, last times polities tried it, just over ninety years ago, then again in the U.S.S.R. until Stalin’s death, and some time after, they are tenacious parasites.
Really, I understand Stalin’s (or Djurgashvili’s) thinking, he was a true Leninist, wanted to take all of Europe, but his allies U.S., U.K, played him as a fool.
He would have been better off making an alliance with the National-Socialists, I have read his writings on nationalities, quite good, he wasn’t the idiot that Trotskyites make him out to be.
In the end, he was assassinated by Jewish doctors.
Mankind is stuck with the Jews; no truer words were ever written.