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The 23rd summit of the heads of state of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), held virtually in New Delhi, represented History in the making: three BRICS (Russia, India, China), plus Pakistan and four Central Asian “stans” (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan), finally and formally, welcomed the Islamic Republic of Iran as a permanent member.

And next year will be Belarus’ turn, as confirmed by India’s First Deputy Foreign Minister Vinay Kvatra. Belarus and Mongolia took part in the 2023 summit as observers, and fiercely independent Turkmenistan, as a guest.

After years of US “maximum pressure,” Tehran may now finally get rid of the sanctions dementia and solidify its leading role in the ongoing process of Eurasia integration.

Arguably, the star of the show in New Delhi was Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, who has led his country since 1994.

Old Man Luka, unbeatable in the headline-stealing department, especially after his mediator role in the Prighozin saga, may have coined the definitive slogan of multipolarity. Forget the western-termed “golden billion” which in fact barely reaches 100 million; embrace now the “Global Globe” – with a firm focus on the Global South.

As the clincher, Lukashenko proposed total integration of the SCO and BRICS – which in their upcoming summit in South Africa will be heading the BRICS+ way. And it goes without saying, this integration also applies to the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU).

The next step for the “Global Globe” – what the collective west dismissively qualifies as “the rest” – is to work on the complex coordination of several development banks and then the process to issue bonds linked to a new trading currency.

The main ideas and the basic template already exist. The new bonds will be a real safe heaven compared to the US dollar and US Treasuries, and will imply accelerated de-dollarization. Capital used to purchase those bonds should be used to finance trade and sustainable development, in what will be a certified, Chinese-style “win-win.”

A converging geoeconomic focus

The SCO declaration made it clear that the expanding multilateral body is “not directed against other states and international organizations.” On the contrary, it is “open to broad cooperation with them in accordance with the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, the SCO Charter and international law, based on consideration of mutual interests.”

The heart of the matter is of course the drive towards a fair multipolar world order – the polar opposite of the Hegemon-imposed “rules-based international order.” And the three key nodes are mutual security; trade in local currencies, and eventually, de-dollarization.

It’s quite enlightening to outline the converging focus, expressed by most leaders, during the New Delhi summit.

India’s Prime Minister Modi stated in his keynote address that the SCO will be as important as the UN. Translation: a toothless UN controlled by the Hegemon may end up being sidelined by a real “Global Globe” organization.

In parallel to Modi praising the key role of Iran in the development of the International North South Transportation Corridor (INSTC), Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi firmly supported SCO trade in national currencies to decisively break the US dollar’s hegemony.

Chinese President Xi Jinping, for his part, was adamant: China is all in favor to sideline the US dollar, stand firm against all forms of color revolutions, and fight against unilateral economic sanctions.

Russian President Vladimir Putin once again stressed how “external forces have put Russia’s security at threat by unleashing hybrid war against Russia and Russians in Ukraine.”

Pragmatically, Putin expects trade within the SCO, using national currencies, to grow – 80 percent of Russia’s trade is now in rubles and yuan – plus a renewed cooperation drive in banking, digitalization, high-tech, and agriculture.

Kyrgyz President Sadyr Japarov also stressed mutual settlements in national currencies, plus a crucial move: the setting up of a SCO development bank and development fund, quite similar to the BRICS’s New Development Bank (NDB).

President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev of Kazakhstan, which will exercise the SCO presidency in 2024, also supported a common investment fund, plus the configuration of a network of partners of major strategic ports connected to China’s BRI as well as the Astana-based Trans-Caspian International Transport Route, linking Southeast Asia, China, Kazakhstan, the Caspian Sea, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Europe.

Of course all SCO members agreed that no Eurasia integration is possible without stabilizing Afghanistan – in fact linking Kabul geoeconomically with both BRI and the INSTC. But that’s another long, twisting story entirely.

Strategic connectivity rules

Now compare all that action in New Delhi with what happened in Tianjin a few days before, in late June: the World Economic Forum (WEF) event known as the “summer Davos”, held for the first time after the Covid-19 pandemic.

Chinese Premier Li Qiang’s critique of the new US/EU “de-risking” slogan may have been predictably sharp. What was way more intriguing was a BRI panel discussion titled “The Future of the Belt and Road Initiative.”

In a nutshell, that was some sort of “green” apotheosis. Liang Linchong, from the National Development and Reform Commission’s (NDRC) Department of Regional Opening-Up, which is essential to promote BRI, detailed several clean energy projects, for instance, in key BRI nodes Kazakhstan and Pakistan.

Africa was also prominently featured. Sekai Nzenza, Zimbabwe’s Minister of Industry and Commerce, is very much in favor of BRI projects increasing trade “and bringing the latest technology” within Africa and globally.

Beijing will revive the Belt and Road Forum later this year. There are huge expectations across the “Global Globe.”

Liang Linchong did go for a breakdown of what lies ahead: “Hard connectivity” (that means infrastructure building), “soft connectivity” (emphasis on skills, technologies and standards), and “connection of hearts,” which translates into the notorious Chinese concept of “people to people exchanges.”

ORDER IT NOW

So what the “Global Globe” should expect, according to Liang, is a surge of “small is beautiful” projects, very pragmatic. That ties up with the new focus by both Chinese banks and companies: Very large infrastructure projects around the world may be problematic for the time being, as China concentrates on the internal market and regimenting every front to fight the Hegemon’s multiple Hybrid Wars.

Strategic connectivity though won’t be affected.

Here is a prime example. Two crucial China industrial nodes – the Guangdong-Hong Kong-Macau Greater Bay Area, and the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei cluster – launched their first China-Kyrgyzstan-Uzbekistan (CKU) international multimodal freight trains on the same day of the SCO summit in New Delhi.

This is classic BRI: Top connectivity, using the containerized “railway-road” multimodal system. The INSTC will be using the same system for trade between Russia, the Caspian, Iran and then by sea to India.

On the CKU, cargo reaches Xinjiang by railway, then goes on the road via the Irkeshtam border, passes through Kyrgyzstan and arrives in Uzbekistan. The whole journey saves nearly five days in transit time. The next step is to build the China-Kyrgyzstan-Uzbekistan railway: construction starts in late 2023.

BRI is making proverbial inroads in Africa. For instance, last month the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) handed over a prototype satellite co-developed with Egypt to Cairo’s Space City. Egypt is now the first African nation capable of satellite assembling, integration, and testing. Cairo hails it as a prime example of sustainable development.

That’s also the first time Beijing assembles and tests a satellite overseas. Once again, classic BRI: “Consultation, Cooperation and Shared Benefits,” as defined by CASC.

And don’t forget the new Egyptian capital: An ultra-modern satellite of Cairo built literally from scratch in the desert for $50 billion, financed by bonds and – what else – Chinese capital.

The long and winding de-dollarization road

All this frantic activity correlates with the key dossier to be treated by BRICS+: De-dollarization.

India’s External Affairs Minister Jaishankar has confirmed there will be no new BRICS currency – for now. The emphasis is on increasing trade in national currencies.

When it comes to BRICS heavyweight Russia, the emphasis for now is to drive commodity prices higher for the benefit of the Russian ruble.

Diplomatic sources confirm that the unspoken agreement among BRICS sherpas – who this week are preparing the guidelines for BRICS+ to be discussed at the South Africa summit next month – is to hasten the fiat dollar’s meltdown: The Financing of US trade and budget deficits would become impossible at current interest rates.

The question is how to hasten it imperceptibly.

Putin’s trademark strategy is to always let the collective west embark in all sorts of strategic mistakes without direct Russian intervention. So what happens next in the battlefield in Donbass – NATO’s larger than life humiliation – will be a crucial factor in the de-dollarization front. The Chinese, for their part, worry about a collapsed dollar rebound on China’s manufacturing base.

The road map ahead suggests a new trade settlement currency first designed at the EAEU, supervised by the Eurasia Economic Commission’s head of macroeconomics Sergey Glazyev. That would lead to a wider BRICS and SCO deployment. But first the EAEU needs to get China on board. That was one of the key issues recently discussed by Glazyev, in person, in Beijing.

So the Holy Grail is a new supranational trade currency for BRICS, SCO, and EAEU. And it’s essential that its reserve status does not allow overriding power to one nation, as it happens with the US dollar.

The only practical means of tying the new trade currency to a basket of multiple commodities – not to mention a basket of national interests – would be through gold.

Imagine all that being discussed in depth by that interminable queue for BRICS membership. As it stands, at least 31 nations have entered formal applications or expressed interest in joining an upgraded BRICS+.

The interconnections are fascinating. Apart from Iran and Pakistan, the only full SCO members that are not BRICS members are four Central Asian “stans,” which already happen to be EAEU members. Iran is bound to become a member of BRICS+. No less than nine nations among SCO’s observers or dialogue partners are among BRICS applicants.

Lukashenko called it: The merging of BRICS and SCO seems virtually inevitable.

For the top twin drivers of both organizations – the Russia-China strategic partnership – this merger will represent the ultimate multilateral institution, based on real free and fair trade, capable of dwarfing both the US and the EU and extending well beyond Eurasia to the “Global Globe.”

German industry/business circles already seem to have seen the writing on the wall, as well as some of their French counterparts, which notably include France’s President Emmanuel Macron. The trend is towards an EU schism – and even more Eurasian power.

A BRICS-SCO trade bloc will make western sanctions absolutely meaningless. It will affirm total independence from the US dollar, offer an array of financial alternatives to SWIFT, and encourage close military and intel cooperation against serial black ops by the Five Eyes, part of the ongoing Hybrid Wars.

In terms of peaceful development, West Asia has shown the way. The minute Saudi Arabia sided with China and Russia – and is now a candidate to both BRICS and SCO membership – there was a new game in town.

Golden Ruble 3.0?

As it stands, there’s huge potential for a gold-backed ruble. If and when it hits the road, that will be a revival of the gold-backing in the USSR between 1944 and 1961.

Glazyev has crucially observed that Russia’s trade surplus with SCO members has allowed Russian companies to pay off external debts and replace them with borrowing in rubles.

In parallel, Russia is increasingly using the yuan for international settlements. Further on down the road, key “Global Globe” players – China, Iran, Turkey, UAE – will be interested in payment in non-sanctioned gold instead of local currencies. That will pave the way for a BRICS-SCO trade settlement currency tied to gold.

After all, nothing beats gold when it comes to fighting collective western sanctions, pricing oil, gas, food, fertilizers, metals, minerals. Glazyev already laid down the law: Russia’s got to go for Golden Ruble 3.0.

ORDER IT NOW

The time is fast approaching for Russia to create the perfect storm to deliver a massive blow to the US dollar. This is what’s being discussed behind the scenes at the SCO, EAEU, and some BRICS sessions, and this is what’s driving the Atlanticist elites livid.

The “imperceptible” way for Russia to make it happen is to let markets drive up the prices of nearly all Russian commodity exports. Neutrals all across the “Global Globe” will interpret it as a natural “market response” to the collective west’s cognitive dissonant geopolitical imperatives. Soaring energy and commodity prices will end up provoking a steep decline in the purchasing power of the US dollar.

So it’s no wonder that several leaders at the SCO summit were in favor to what amounts, in practice, to an expanded BRICS-SCO Central Bank. When the new BRICS-SCO-EAEU currency is finally adopted – of course it’s a long way away, perhaps in the early 2030s – it will be traded for physical gold by participating banks from SCO, BRICS, and EAU member-nations.

All of the above should be interpreted as the sketch of a possible, realistic path to real multipolarity. It has nothing to do with the yuan as reserve currency, reproducing the existing rent-extracting racket to the profit of a minuscule plutocracy – complete with a massive military apparatus specialized in bullying the “Global Globe.”

A BRICS-SCO-EAEU union will be focused on building – and expanding – the physical, non-speculative economy based on infrastructure development, industrial capability, and tech sharing. Another world-system, now more than ever, is possible.

(Republished from The Cradle by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. bob sykes says:

    M. K. Bhadrakumar at Indian Punchline thinks that Modi is not fully on board with the SCO/BRICS/EAEU integration project and is obsessed with neutralizing Pakistan:

    https://www.indianpunchline.com

    I should like to read an analysis of Mr. Bhadrakumar’s opinion. Modi himself does seem to be the proverbial fly in the ointment. He may be playing a double game of triangularization between the US and its vassals and the Global South.

  2. Notsofast says:

    what we are witnessing here, is political and economic plate tectonics in action, as a new super continent emerges. political and social upheaval threaten to tear apart the west. the e.u. is the major fault line, as the 5 eyed leviathan drifts off in the opposite direction, dragging the new atlantis terrorist organization (nato) down with them, like the damned crew of the piquod.

    good to see luky and priggy have such fun, playing the west so throughly, i’m sure someday they’ll have a good laugh with vvp, over a bottle vodka as they reminisce.

    • Agree: Avery
    • Replies: @one nobody
    , @GMC
  3. Chris Moore says: • Website

    The next step for the “Global Globe” – what the collective west dismissively qualifies as “the rest” – is to work on the complex coordination of several development banks and then the process to issue bonds linked to a new trading currency.

    It occurs to me that BRICs et al are actually pursuing the ideals as imagined in the fictional Star Trek, as opposed to the faux, hypocritical ((Hollywood)) ideals that were the reality behind the Star Trek sound stage.

    It’s the difference between the seething, bitter, hate-filled Hebrew Talmudists and Moneychangers behind the crucifixion of Christ, and the salt of the earth Hebrew ideals as epitomized by Jesus.

    The Talmudist parasite wing insinuated their way into the best of the Hebrews, putrefied them, and the result was the destruction of Israel.

    Those same Talmudist parasites insinuated their way into the West, caused the wars and revolutions of the 20th Century, and now the haughty, phony, parasitic NWO “West” is teetering on the brink.

    The Talmudist parasites and their left-right whore and pig (Marxist-Zionist, shitlib-neocon) accomplices are the common denominator.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
  4. Sane Borders, Sabotaged Ones and Gonzalo Lira

    https://linhdinh.substack.com/p/sane-borders-sabotaged-ones-and-gonzalo

  5. And really the western elite by force have to kill humanity all the hopes of building a better world or even their own peoples will abandon them leaving the millionaire parasites leaving them alone to rob each other.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  6. Meet the “new global globe,” looking at-least, a lot like the old one. All of the usual institutional apparatus is there, along with all the make-believe “currency” upon which it all runs. It is going to operate as all machinery always does, too, which is to say strictly and necessarily according to the dictates of its design and construction, and only secondarily if-at-all in compliance with any wishes of its operators that might in any way be discordant or at cross-purposes to it.

    Any possible mutually beneficial effects of its operations, as so-optimistically posited here, will depend utterly on its operators being and behaving effectively as a species of secular saints, letting the thing run without interference with its in-built principles, and not trying to turn it toward the usual sorts of “competing interests” dynamics that seem never to fail to crop-up among the operators of such contraptions. Since these operators will be exclusively themselves thoroughly domesticated people, their practices and procedures and policies will always be prioritized on the basis of what is required not mainly for the well-being of ordinary captive Humans, the reputed beneficiaries of it all, but for the smooth and efficient operations of the apparatus itself.

    Just coincidentally this regimen also always makes the jobs of the operators a lot easier, which somehow translates into them deserving of relatively greater rewards and benefits than those of the ordinary subject/citizen. This pyramiding tendency appears to us here in Indian Country to be inseparable from the driving process of the Planet-wasting “civilization” disease itself.

    We can see this quite clearly in how China operates already today. Under the cover of that perennially “self”-serving conceit claiming that the severely regimented, being long used-to that, accept it as the “natural” order of things. So they supposedly prefer it, most of them, to the truly Natural “uncertainty”that us surviving Free Wild Peoples Sing ‘n’ Dance with every Day.

    “Civilized” people being what they are, and the thing itself being what it is, this “new global globe” is going to go the way of all its predecessors. Due to all the institutional and electro-mechanical accelerators and intensifiers that it cannot even get started without, though, it will arrive at its inevitable wrack-and-ruin a lot quicker, and a lot more catastrophically than any of those earlier iterations.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
    • Thanks: emerging majority
  7. @Liborio Guaso

    How will the USA react–sanctions and cluster bombs?

    While cluster munitions were used as far back as World War II, the United States infamously used them extensively during the Vietnam War, including in secret illegal operations in Laos. Around 20,000 people, 40% of them children, have been killed or injured in Laos from unexploded cluster bomblets since the war ended.

    Cluster munitions were also used by the United States in Cambodia, Grenada, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Afghanistan and during both Iraq wars, where they killed civilians and US military personnel.
    =============================

    USA needs war for Profit—-been at war all but 14 years since 1776–keeping the Monroe Doctrine alive and extended over the entire planet.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  8. The Neocon plan to destroy and dismantle Russia has failed, with serious blowback:


    Video Link

    • Thanks: Decoy, Mark G.
  9. @bob sykes

    Remember the corrupt and greedy Pakistani generals feed at the Saudi trough. Soon, these gluttonous traitors will be brought into line to stabilize Pakistan under Imran Khan.
    Pakistan borders China’s Xinjiang Province in the north, which provides China with a potential corridor through the Karakoram Highway to the seaport at Gwadar in Baluchistan on the Indian Ocean. The Pakistan part of the larger project is referred to as the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.
    Therefore, China will ask for help from Saudi Arabia with the overfed Pakistani generals.
    India sees the Gwadar port as a Chinese strategic “string of pearls” with the potential to strangle India in the event of hostilities. India’s response to the Gwadar port is the Chabahar port, 75 miles from Gwadar. A duplicate effort if you ask me. There are more layers to this situation.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  10. @Notsofast

    Our colonial masters have a simple choice to make. Mend your ways to compete and trade fairly; or continue to insist on being the world’s cancer and pariah, until the world quarantines you to the detriment of your populations.
    Dismantle your military bases, intelligence and mayhem agencies to balance budgets, provide prosperity for your own and make friends. Invest in economic intelligence, compete by offering better technologies and proposals. Choose life over death.

  11. @Priss Factor

    that’s why BBC News stands for British Bull Crap News. A totally irrelevant organization, a propaganda tool of the English elite pedophile protection network.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    , @anon
  12. maskazer says:

    Thanks for giving us the good news. The de-dollarization process seems to be progressing steadily. Also it’s going to become absolutely necessary for the SCO-BRICS+ and EAEU countries to adopt a completely independent Internet, Mobile phone network, operating system software …etc. from the current western dominated ones. These are today powerful tools of corporate terrorism and control in the hands of the hegemonic power, especially considering their plan on gathering every living being’s personal information to impose their grand Agenda by 2030. It’s not wise to start a free from US-dollar financial system of the Global South but continue on with the Android or ios mobile operating systems for mobile banking …

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Gerry
  13. Pepe Escobar wrote: ” The Chinese, for their part, worry about a collapsed dollar rebound on China’s manufacturing base.”

    Thanks so much, Pebe.

    If I understand the above sentence correctly, this means that the Chinese leadership naturally fear that a break with the ZUS dollar shall negatively “rebound,” and harm their export economy.

    Am certain that when Blinken met with Xi, he knew that China would be hesitant to completely cast their fortune with Russia, and subsequently keep the Talmudic Empire on life support and intact.

    To counter President Putin’s successful Special Operation and growing Ruble power, perhaps the Zionist Biden administration shall relent, and offer China concessions on Taiwan?

  14. Ghali says:

    It is all good thanks to China and Iran. However, some of the BRICS-SCO members are difficult to trust, including, India and Russia. Russia in particular, remains delusional about its role as part of the “European family”. Russia will do anything to go back to its position before the current war in Ukraine despite known that it is only welcome as a gas pumping station. Russia has a long history of betrayal. You only have to read the Russian media to see how untrustworthy the Russians are. India under the Modi anti-Muslim Fascist regime is a U.S. lapdog and will do anything not to upset the U.S. regime.

  15. Butt-Tucker fired over Ukraine?

    ———————–

    Whatever happens with currency, English will remain the Lingua Globois.

  16. This comment is probably somewhat stupid and clumsy, but it’s obvious that Putin has no problem repeating the Talmudist’s insult to the mind of a free thinking man of six million chickenswingers. Is that insignificant? Some of us would really like to see the founding myth of the US Empire die with it.

  17. GMC says:
    @Notsofast

    Well written – Capt Ahaps { Biden’s} skiff is going to get pulled down in the end. Ahap lost a leg – Biden lost his mind – lol

    I’m still wondering if the American people even understand that they received nothing domestically from the Petro dollar, compared to the Federal Reserve, MIC and the other piglet agencies at the trough. It would have been so easy to build two or three agencies to move 40% of the Petro earnings over to keep the infrastructure and the other Domestic needs in funding, but Nope- it all got moved into the Deep State – Deep Pockets of the US Crime Syndicate. How much money are we talking about ? No honest books could possibly exist. But obviously , it’s in the Trillions and today, they are still making a killing with “Their Petro Dollar “. I’ll assume it.

    • Replies: @Annony Mouse
    , @Notsofast
  18. Odyssey says:

    The United States has increased imports of goods from Russia despite its numerous economic sanctions on the country, data published by the US Census Bureau revealed on Thursday.

    In May, the volume of products imported from the sanctioned country surged and amounted to $504 million, according to the report.

    This is more than double the figures from April, when Washington purchased goods worth $215.6 million from Russia.

    In February, US imports of goods reached an all-time high for 2023 and totaled $642.8 million.

    Meanwhile, US exports to Russia continue to decline. In May, the volume of exported goods plunged to $60 million from $65.2 million the previous month and $66.4 million in March, data showed. In January, US exports to Russia totaled $44.6 million. (RT)

  19. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghali

    You are correct in your assessment. It’s been eight years since Russia intervened in Syria, but the situation has not improved much, Israel continues to bomb Syria. US sponsored isis terrorists still continue,
    So just what has Russia achieved there?
    the Indians cannot be trusted

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  20. Congratulations to Egypt.

    Ref E. Macron and others “seeing the light” and maybe angling for some kind of admittance — NO WAY !! Keep Trojan Horses out.

    There was a day when perhaps the west was reformable but that time has passed. The only solution today is to bring to destruction their power networks/elites, which the native pops (what’s left of them) cannot or will not do.
    Forces external to USUKEU/5Eyes will achieve this gradually in the manner described in this article. USA response to its disaster in Ukraine is to yet again double down with cluster munitions. Americans need to see what most of the world sees, that their country is truly a Mad Dog, a Rogue State.
    Not debating which agent of satan to vote for in Knesset 2.
    Or volunteering to loot Syrian oil, occupy Iraq.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  21. Optimism over the building of an alternative to the western institutions is to be expected since everything is new, shiny and untested. Anything to unseat the hegemonic US and its self serving institutions is surely welcomed.

    But …

    It appears everyone is keen on trading in their ‘national currencies’. Let’s look at that a bit more. What are national currencies but the political class and bankers of a country cheating their own citizenry by engineering the use of debt instruments to replace honest money, gold and silver traditionally. National currencies are the fraudulent money substitute worth exactly nothing.

    Every ‘leader’ is keen on using his national currency to purchase goods and services from the other members of this new gang. What we have here are a top Dons all playing nice to get this new crime family off the ground and every one of them thinks he’s going to succeed in gaming the rest using his national bullshit currency to cheat better than the other guy.

    Should Russia or China announce a gold backing, every other currency immediately gets discounted because everyone wants something, gold, instead of nothing, thin air ‘currency’, for trade settlement. Getting all the head criminals to join this new club using ‘national currencies’ as the enticement sounds nice until reality muscles its way into the picture.

    Either everyone starts using something real for trade settlement, like gold and silver, or the whole thing rapidly falls apart when some podunk country hasn’t the metals to compete. The other sign that this is a con job is the reliance on ‘other commodities’ for trade settlement. This is really called barter and was how things were done before real money was invented. You can’t settle debts with consumables, at least not for long. How does one store the nation’s wealth in grains, oil or anything but the metals that have been used as money for thousands of years precisely because they can be stored without degradation.

    Those with gold and silver will have an advantage over those that don’t. For a time, trading wheat for oil or potatoes for electronics will work, but the invention of ‘money’ says not for long. This will all get contentious as soon as honest money is injected into the schemes these Dons are hatching and the players with gold damned well know it. They are counting on it raising them up as the new hegemon. Wait for it.

    Gold and silver will be revalued in the not too distant future much higher than they are now in bullshit currency terms. That will make it just that much more difficult for the smaller nations to sit at the new table with the big guys.

    New boss same as the old boss once the hangover sets in from drinking in the fantasies of national currency and commodity trade settlement.

    • Replies: @Gerry
  22. Bullshitfest. Same clownfuckery as before, but with a self-styled “multipolar” label on it. UN “sustainability” and WHO plandemic “protocols” seem less like Jewing because BRICS appear more “diverse” than the USEUNATO’s bloodsucking IMF/WB.

    • Agree: Zane
  23. maskazer says:
    @Ghali

    Good point. But it looks like Russia knows it couldn’t possibly go back to business as usual due to tremendous levels of corruptions inside western financial crime syndicate. The population of both India and Russia and in fact all countries today (especially female human species that possess natural instincts for shopping all day) still live in their dream world. Perhaps they think materially comfortable lifestyle is best achieved by following western values of the post WWII Hollywood movies. In fact just one more mistake by Russia doing another appeasement to the west could lead to for example Siberia become a personal property of someone at the Black Rock Co. like happening right now in Ukraine. India has had a long colonial past and it’s totally a different situation there but still India’s core remain with the emerging Eurasian world order.

  24. Emslander says:

    The trend is towards an EU schism – and even more Eurasian power.

    Please, free the USA from its obsession with the “West”.

  25. obam says:
    @Ghali

    India is not a free country It is occupied by upper caste leeches that tap into the divinely ordained prescription of poverty ,oppression,and injustice for the rest . It imposes these values in secular langugage on the quasi faithful middle class by diverting attention to external and historical factors that have been distorted and by maintaining craven attitude to the western connections or allowing accecptance only when vetted by western institutes . Conncetion to western institutes are closed to the majoity or to be precise – available only to 1 % of Indians .

    These leeches represented by domestic as well as Indian diaspora BJP RSS see west as the energy or the force that they can harness to further the crony family dynastic interest back at home and here in the west. Recent arrangements with Micron prove its penchant of making quick bucks for the crony corrupt business groups – tax payers paying 100% while receiving 30% of benefit but 70% going back to Micron creating only low level job and low value assembly type of operation touted as example of relocation of manufacturing from China to India. 30% is absorbed by BJP RSS type of business owners. These jobs often dislocate the existing lower class or poor with no future compemsation or opening of new opportunities .

    India is hedging its bets . It woud love to see US Israel maintain the dominance and Russia in tow but always supporting India.
    This is why India opted for virtual meeting so that it doesnt have to invite Putin andit does not have to postpone meeting Biden ( SCO meeting was planned long before Biden-Modi meeting ).

    Russia is enchanted with India . So are Arab countries. They would find their hopes dashed and trust broken .

    • Replies: @Malla
  26. @Ghali

    Chinese are also untrustworthy. They stabbed both Vietnam and Russia in the back in the past during the Soviet period. I guess everyone is untrustworthy. There are only interests not friendships in global politics.

  27. Anon001 says:

    Here’s one great interview [1] – Putin is mentioned several times.

    [1] The fall from liberalism to global technocracy – Interview with Iurie Rosca (pron Yuri) from Moldova
    https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/the-fall-from-liberalism-to-global

    P.S. The only thing I do not agree with Yuri is regarding China, which is economic and manufacturing super-power. IMO, globalists do not control China, and that’s their main problem at the moment.

    Some notable excerpts from [1]:

    > “Donbass was abandoned for eight years, the assassination of the peaceful population in this region continued daily, and the Minsk agreements confirmed my fear that Russia did not have a leadership capable of manifesting itself as a real and effective alternative to the West.”

    > “… nor do I practice Putinomania as a form of neo-pagan adoration and intellectual blindness. This kind of syndrome is sometimes promoted by clever people who seek sponsorship from groups affiliated with Moscow.”

    > “I hoped that the Putin administration had decided to end Russia’s unsettling status as a Western colony, as a banana republic of the globalist corporatocracy, as a supplier of raw materials to the rich countries of the West.”

    > “The evolution of events in Russia has shown that in fact the Putin administration is only the docile executor of the orders of the “Russian plutocracy”. Under the current regime, the country could be called without exaggeration a “xenocracy” (rule by foreigners).”

    > “… there was no change in the internal policy of the Putin administration with regards to Moscow’s ongoing implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development”

    > “And just as Putin and his regime have shown total subordination to the WHO Satanists, so has the puppet regime in Chisinau, violently imposing the same terror, including forced injections, using a medical pretext.”

    Regards, Anon001 – Comments Archive @ The Unz Review
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Anon001

    • Replies: @1jonny
  28. Anon001 says:

    Some fresh info regarding the conflict and then some [1][2][3].

    [1] Moscow/Putin Will Probably Begin Formal Surrender Negotiations By the End of the Year
    https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/moscow-will-probably-begin-formal

    [2] Mozgovoi Was Murdered But Prigozhin Had His Money Returned to Him
    https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/mozgovoi-was-murdered-but-prigozhin

    [3] There Was No Wagner Mutiny – by Rolo Slavskiy
    https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/there-was-no-wagner-mutiny

    — — —
    https://substackcdn.com/image/upload/w_1028,c_limit,q_auto:best/dncg5sck0f4ggtqd9n2n

    Regards, Anon001 – Comments Archive @ The Unz Review
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Anon001

    • Replies: @obam
    , @Commentator Mike
  29. Gerry says:
    @RoatanBill

    Hey RoatanBill your going to love this!!!!! From Dr. Cantelon a history lesson!!!!

    Too Much or Not Enough

    In spite of the fact that the U.S. government had in_ creased its money supply 47% in a five-year period, and other nations were doing the same thing, still there were those who cried it was not enough. Between 1954 and 1965, world trade had doubled. I sat with a thousand delegates in the International Board of Trade in the Waldorf Astoria Hotel of New York listening to the speakers struggle with their unsolved problems. world trade had reached the staggering figure of $159.2 billion. The currencies and credits with which they had to carry on this volume of trade was little more than $67.3 billion. By 1973, the volume of trade in the free world was $367 billion. I talked with Mitchell Sharpe, then Minister of Finance for Canada, and some of the American leaders. These men realized that the currencies being used were outmoded and insufficient for the modern day. They pointed out that the system was medieval, serving acceptably in the olden days when communities were small and self-contained, but thoroughly inadequate for the present. The leaders of the nations involved in trade spoke of the nightmarish task of trying daily to ad-iust the varying exchange rates between the currencies from country to country on a day-to-day basis. they clamored for a single system of standardized value large enough in volume to allow world trade to move forward in an orderly fashion.

    ln 1967, two years following that International Board of Trade meeting in New York, the world leaders met in Rio. In discussing the inadequacy of the present world money systems to carry on world trade, Guido Carli from Rome suggested ersatz money which would resemble paper gold which was to be presented to the world the following year. I was back in America when the announcement came. It was March 31, 1968. Most of the world reacted with amazement at the announcement that came from Europe stating that the nations of the world were ready to transact
    business with a new medium of exchange known as “paper gold.” But to all who follow the trend of monetary matters, the announcement was no surprise. For days there was a feeling in the air that something momentous was coming. An editor wrote in the Financial Times,

    Something sinister is going on.

    With great interest, I followed the comments and reactions of world leaders.

    Carl Schiller, Germany’s financier, stated,

    There’s a worm in the apple somewhere.

    Pierre Paul Schweitzer seemed pleased. Schweitzer, the nephew of Albert Schweitzer, was an elite Protestant, born in Alsace-Lorraine, who had served as number-three man in the Bank of France, and had been elected managing director of the International Monetary Fund. Some declared
    that when paper gold was presented to the world on that March morning, Schweitzer declared,

    Gentlemen, we are right on schedule.

    72% of the nations in the IMF were considered under_developed. Schweitzer seemed especially dedicated to the task or policy of taking from the rich to give to the poor. This naturally made him popular with the majority in the IMF, who were elated at the prospect of acquiring some of
    America’s wealth regardless of the measures.

    pgs 48-51

    and I’m sure your going to love this perhaps even more!!!!!!!!

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/foreign-exchange/brics-to-replace-the-dollar/

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  30. Gerry says:
    @maskazer

    @ maskazar

    EXACTLY!!! Glazyev called it the ELECTRONIC CONCENTRATION CAMP and that is what they are after the Global Bankers. The introduction of the computer and the numbering of every person on the globe puts us all into a Social Credit Score System without equal in the history of the world!!! There is no getting away from it. They salivate like Rapid Dogs they do for this system to go global. In their eyes it solves every problem of mankind similar to the ration system implemented during WW2 where the number on the coupon book took priority over mans money as legal tender, or a medium of exchange.

    BRICS for all their talk and I hope they succeed I truly do but my knowledge of the Bible Rev 13 tells me different. I’m actually quite suspicious that the QR Code is exactly what St. John saw in his vision of no man being able to buy or sell unless he had the mark or number of his name in hand or forehead! And imagine we are being told of this beforehand!!! We are being warned of Lucifers work and the consequences of it!!!

    Cheers

    • Agree: maskazer
    • Replies: @Brad Anbro
    , @showmethereal
  31. @Ghali

    Hahaha Gali Bhai, what joke. Chinese government is mafia filled with the worst kind of criminal mind peoples. See how China really works behind facade. Chinese government is one big mafia.

    Video Link
    How Chinese leaders came to power (1) Mao Zedong and his heirs; Deng Xiaoping
    The Chinese communist Party’s leadership succession process is full of schemes and power struggles. Mao Zedong had 4 successors; two died during the Culture Revolution. And Deng Xiaoping wasn’t one of Mao’s heirs. The story of how the CCP leaders chose their successors reveals Chinese leaders’ history of paranoia.

    Video Link
    How Chinese leaders came to power (2) Deng Xiaoping, economic reforms, & succession crisis

    Video Link
    The succession crisis: How Chinese Communist Party leaders came to power (3)

    • Disagree: maskazer
    • Troll: showmethereal
  32. @GMC

    We can only imagine what kind of a wonderful country the United States would and could be had it not been hijacked by nation wreckers. It has become a dysfunctional cess pool where the citizens are completely demoralized.

    • Agree: Ace, GMC
    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
  33. @one nobody

    Alternatively known as the Bolshevik Bullshit Cooperative.

    • Replies: @one nobody
  34. @Gerry

    The general euphoria over a new and improved clique of wannabe world dominators seems to have caused even intelligent people to not see what’s obviously going on. The ‘east’ is dissatisfied with the deal from the ‘west’ so they are breaking off and forming their new mafia family of countries that think they’ll get a better deal with the new hegemon.

    For a time, the ‘east’ will develop infrastructure to be used later to once again enslave their populations for the benefit of the oligarchy. Nothing really changes except for a short time when the eastern gov’ts are focusing on improving their surroundings that just coincidentally benefit their citizenry. Some deluded people actually believe in the existence of good government.

    You caught me working on my euphemism dictionary that might give people a more realistic language to use when speaking of all things political. Here’s what I’ve got so far:

    Euphemism dictionary:
    government: mafia, most successful criminal organization in a geographic region.
    president, prime minister, etc: mafia Don, ‘big guy’, HMFIC, chief crook.
    legislature: place where arbitrary ‘laws’ are made to cheat the citizenry and subjugate them.
    laws: mostly arbitrary rules designed to manufacture crimes that can’t identify a victim or property damage for the purpose of extracting fines and controlling the citizenry.
    citizenry: tax cattle, slaves to the oligarchy, cannon fodder during times of war.
    war: the disagreement between two or more mafias that requires their citizens to die in large numbers till the most successful purveyor of violence is deemed the winner of the conflict.
    history: aged propaganda.
    school: place where young minds are propagandized to think only approved thoughts.
    media: continuing schooling for adults to reinforce propaganda absorbed when younger.
    taxes: theft of labor to support the oligarchy.
    courts: place where government agents pretend to honestly adjudicate disputes involving government policies.
    military: murder incorporated, staffed with the amoral and most stupid of the society willing to take orders without question.
    street cops: enforcement arm of court and laws system staffed by the losers of the society with a mean streak that want to dominate those they encounter. Many ex military that liked killing the innocent.
    voting: the process that allows the most gullible to continuously select their next disappointment in the never ending desire to find the impossible – a decent politician.
    currency: a money substitute that is actually a debt instrument, created by the collusion of government and the banking mafia, condoned and rationalized by economists.
    economist: a member of a completely fraudulent profession with various ‘schools’ of thought that disagree with each other. whore for the government and bankers that will write up a justification for any and all government and banking policies. If one economist won’t cooperate with a policy, the next one will.

    I’ll keep working on expanding it as thoughts come to me.

    • Agree: Brad Anbro
    • Thanks: Unbornawakened
    • Replies: @Gerry
    , @Unbornawakened
  35. Gerry says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    @ Mehool

    China was is their test case for the rest of us.


    Video Link

    • Replies: @One Nobody
  36. @Annony Mouse

    Without the little hat people and negroes (admittedly self-imposed), the US would indeed be a wonderful country. As things are, I am deeply pessimistic for the future of the nation.

    • Replies: @HT
  37. @Commentator Mike

    Chinese are also untrustworthy.

    The Chinese are the jews of asia.

    Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.
    Ambrose Bierce

    No nation has friends only interests.
    Charles de Gaulle

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  38. maskazer says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    Come on don’t you think you are just over generalizing the argument here. Are you trying to say because corruption and mafia exist everywhere therefore it’s futile to replace the dollar? China is a sovereign country with its government working for the nation’s interests. The current western financial crime syndicate is a secret capitalist entity – privately owned – central banking which seeks global hegemony and control over sheeple. China promotes education while globalists promote wokism and paedophilia. China builds roads, globalists blow up north stream gas pipeline. China feeds its people, globalists destroy agriculture….and it goes on and on.

  39. The next step for the “Global Globe” – what the collective west dismissively qualifies as “the rest” – is to work on the complex coordination of several development banks and then the process to issue bonds linked to a new trading currency.

    I say:

    The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire is flooding all nations and regions under its sway with mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration. The JEW/WASP Ruling Class is using proxy wars to attack other nations and regions.

    The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire is using weaponized electronic financial currency and banking schemes to keep power globally.

    The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire is losing control of the ‘coming and going’ mechanism of imperial energy. Nation-killing mass immigration is now the main political and civilizational issue that will begin to politically decapitate the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.

    “The West Is The Best; Get Here And We’ll Do The Rest” from admiral’s son Jim Morrison and The Doors has some rather irritating and ominous demographical overtones and that Baby Boomer sonofabitch Morrison had a decent voice and the musicianship wasn’t too shabby but the FOREIGNER INUNDATION and WHITE REPLACEMENT and WHITE GENOCIDE insinuations of that song fit the Baby Boomer scumbags to perfection.

    Now, Jim Morrison might have been warbling on about California as the West and his exhortation to get there might have been aimed at other citizens of the USA, but who knows?

    How about dead Harvard guy Sam Huntington and his questions for the USA and the national identity of the USA?

    Sam Huntington Questions About The United States of America:

    WHO ARE WE AS A NATION?

    WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR AS A NATION?

    The formation of foreign policy starts with the ancestral national identity of the USA and that is why dirtbag filth like George W Bush and Joe Biden and Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris and the Neo-Conservatives and the US Chamber of Commerce and the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire are always vague and hazy and abstract about their conception of the national identity of the USA and the ancestral origins of the USA.

    It’s too bad Samuel Huntington, the author of the book — Who Are We? The Challenges To America’s National Identity — is no longer among the living. Huntington wrote that the United States is a British Protestant settler nation-state. Huntington would have provided some nice pushback to the notion that America has no fixed founding stock.

    I would say that America is a European Christian nation-state.

    The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire insists that the USA is a multicultural proposition region.

    NATO MUST BE TERMINATED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE

    GERMANY AND ITALY MUST GET NUCLEAR WEAPONS

    JAPAN AND AUSTRALIA MUST GET NUCLEAR WEAPONS

    AMERICAN EMPIRE OUT OF ASIA AND EUROPE

    • Agree: Ace
    • LOL: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Houston 1992
  40. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Forget the western-termed “golden billion” which in fact barely reaches 100 million

    This is Inside Baseball – way outside anything I know about.

  41. obam says:
    @Anon001

    Rolo is drawing conclusion of Putin’s downfall from meeting between Lavrov and Haas.
    He has nothing to support it other than stray and out of context remark of Kissinger.

    His other article that is Wagner is late. People already have written the big financial angle behind the endevour by Priz.

    In varying intensity and anxiety China Iran Brazil S Africa Cuba Nicaragua and even Indonesia dont want to see Russia grinded down to ‘surrender’ .

    A surrender means demilitarization of Russia and de nuclearization as well.

  42. Modi was just here praising the US for its generosity to the world, belatedly to India, especially to China for its rise to a superpower (not to be confused with the Hyperpower that is America) status and was also hinting to (CCP) not bite the hands that feed it. So, so much for BRICs, SCO et al. Iran will continue to suck a lemon as long as Israel wishes it!

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  43. @Gerry

    Good video.

    Most of the folks on this site demand the continuation of gov’t as a necessary evil. As an anarchist, I see what the announcer sees, nothing but death and destruction from the sociopaths that always capture the levers of power because of people stupid enough to think that there can ever be a benevolent government.

  44. anon[429] • Disclaimer says:
    @one nobody

    BBC = Buggering British Children

    The sheer factuality and the lack of any irony or sarcasm of the above statement boggles the mind.

  45. Notsofast says:
    @GMC

    until the private “federal reserve” is nationalized and control of currency returned to the “peoples” government, the parasites running our central banking system, will continue to rape, pillage and plunder the u.s., as well as the rest of the world.

    to me this is the most important aspect of the smo, it is an operation against nato, not ukraine. ukraine is just a mess the russians have to clean up, in order to keep zato’s filthy hands off of eastern europe. these zioneocons have a death grip on the eu and nato vassals, although they appear to be losing their grip on turkiye and hungary. if the sultan can break the fingers of his former masters and free his country, that would give orban a chance to become the voice of sanity and establish hungary, as a bridge between europe and russia, just as erdogan is doing the same with turkiye.

    i am plesantly surprised by the georgian government, who seem to be resisting western pressure quite effectively (after having first hand experience at being hung out to dry by the u.s.). i freely admit, to enjoying, seeing an emaciated saakasvili wasting away from his hunger strike (boo fucking hoo), while the ukrainians complain about the “human rights violations” lol, of the georgians allowing this civil rights hero, (didn’t the ukrainians throw him out, after the georgians had thrown him out?) starve his worthless ass to death. perhaps the georgians can release him in an act of compassion (or hot potato), so he can return to ukraine to advise zelensky, as to which tie he should chew, during the final push.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine, GMC
  46. HT says:
    @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    Without the little hat people and negroes (admittedly self-imposed), the US would indeed be a wonderful country. As things are, I am deeply pessimistic for the future of the nation.

    I proudly acknowledge that the Founders created a country based on White supremacy, which we are supposed to run away from today and had a system in place that would have maintained that including immigration laws. That all went out the window starting with the insanity of making freed slaves US citizens and continued with the changing of our immigration laws to allow POC to come in. Now we have a White minority and the Jew elites run our country. Their primary goal seems to be the destruction of Whites. Every national policy and legal decision made with regard to race has been the wrong one the last 160 years and it resulted in our demise.

    • Thanks: Ace
  47. @Anon001

    Moscow/Putin Will Probably Begin Formal Surrender Negotiations By the End of the Year

    LOL. Of course, “the surrender of the Ukraine” by the end of the year. This guy must be off his head to think Russia will surrender. To whom? Why?

    • Replies: @Anon001
    , @Anon001
  48. @Arthur MacBride

    JFYI

    Details of the latest aid to Kiev from the Beast.

    🇺🇲🇺🇦❗The Pentagon announced another $800 million military aid package for Ukraine. It included:

    – 32 BMP M2 Bradley ;
    – 32 armored personnel carriers Stryker ;
    – additional missiles for the Patriot air defense system and the HIMARS MLRS;
    – MANPADS Stinger, ATGM Javelin and TOW;
    – anti-aircraft missiles (air-to-air) AIM-7;
    – 31 155-mm howitzers;
    – 105 and 155 mm projectiles, including cluster DPICM
    – demining equipment, spare parts, small arms and 28 million rounds of ammunition for them;
    – UAV Penguin;
    – 27 tactical engineering vehicles;
    – 10 tactical vehicles for towing and transporting equipment.

    As you can see, the Americans are not only actively replacing the losses incurred by the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the counteroffensive, but also expanding the range of ammunition supplied.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  49. @Constant Walker

    You have said effectively nothing, although you seem to have fooled some people. A lot of words so ambiguous, abstract and without concrete reference that a summation of your gibberish can be said to be bullshit

    The weak minded will interpret your equivocation and ambiguity with their own internal projections and beliefs. You sound very similar to Jewish leaders and provocateurs that gave testimony and answers to Congressional Committees investigating subversive and illegal activities.

    Your mumbo-jumbo blather has snared a couple of suckers, I see. But many erudite masters of the language have long exposed this fraud:

    Lionel Trilling on the Language of Non-Thought
    “A specter haunts our culture–it is that people will eventually be unable to say, ‘They fell in love and married,’ let alone understand the language of Romeo and Juliet, but will as a matter of course say ‘Their libidinal impulses being reciprocal, they activated their individual erotic drives and integrated them within the same frame of reference.’
    “Now this is not the language of abstract thought or of any kind of thought. It is the language of non-thought. . . . There can be no doubt whatever that it constitutes a threat to the emotions and thus to life itself.”
    (Lionel Trilling, “The Meaning of a Literary Idea.” The Liberal Imagination: Essays on Literature and Society, 1950)
    Passive Voice in Academese
    “If your style has been corrupted by long exposure to academese or ‘business English,’ you may need to worry about the passive. Make sure it hasn’t seeded itself where it doesn’t belong. If it has, root it out as needed. Where it does belong, I think we ought to use it freely. It is one of the lovely versatilities of the verb.”
    (Ursula K. Le Guin, Steering the Craft. Eighth Mountain Press, 1998)

    What does it mean to double talk someone?
    Double-talk is a form of speech in which inappropriate, invented, or nonsense words are used to give the appearance of knowledge and so confuse or amuse the audience.

    Double Speak. There are four types of doublespeak: euphemism, jargon, gobbledygook, and inflated language.

    Why is doublespeak dangerous?
    Doublespeak poses a threat to the United States because it creates a buffer between what organizations are saying and what people are hearing. if you’re entering into a credit card contract, or buying a home, and you’re understanding of your obligation is not based on reality, that’s problematic.

    What do you mean by double talk?

    Definition of double-talk. 1 : language that appears to be earnest and meaningful but in fact is a mixture of sense and nonsense. 2 : inflated, involved, and often deliberately ambiguous language.

    “Nonsense Language” Nonsense language, then, involves shifty interactions of intention and reception. It’s possible for an author to intend sense but for her work to be received as nonsense. It’s possible for an author to intend nonsense but for readers to make unexpected sense of his work.

    “Doublespeak” is the term right out of 1984.

    Hey, Roatan Bill and Emerging Majority, please relay exactly and precisely what points Constant Walker was making.

    The success of Doublespeak-talk is that people on opposite views and opinions can apprehend some words and be convinced that it supports and reinforces their position. Everything is nothing.

    • Agree: maskazer
    • Replies: @Constant Walker
  50. @Buck Ransom

    that’s even a better description.

  51. @RoatanBill

    As an anarchist, I see what the announcer sees, nothing but death and destruction from the sociopaths that always capture the levers of power because of people stupid enough to think that there can ever be a benevolent government.

    Only, stupid, simple, willfully blind, and children over generalize to this absurdity and logical fallacy. Every governmental authority (a neighborhood association of homeowners, association of ranchers and farmers, the National Rifle Association, etc?)

    Not only are you stupid, Bill, but you are stubbornly stupid, fixated stupid, inured, robotic, mechanical, and a closed loop of disco thump-thump beat stupid.

    • Thanks: Emslander
    • LOL: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @Bro43rd
  52. @RoatanBill

    You hit the nail right on its head!

    This comment should be required reading for all delusional people.

    • Thanks: RoatanBill
  53. That Asian Indian Hindu guy named Modi came to a huge stadium in Houston, Texas, USA, in 2019 and he sang the glories of Asian Indian Hindus and he was joined by Baby Boomer mass legal immigration extremist Donald Trump.

    In 2019, 50,000 Asian Indian Hindus in Houston were celebrating their colonization of the USA and Trump was saying how wonderful it is to be colonized by Asian Indian Hindus in the largest numbers ever.

    White Genocide In Hindu Houston sounds like a horror movie, but Trump says it is great that Asian Indian Hindus are flooding into the USA in the largest numbers ever.

    President Biden And Presidential Candidate Trump Are Treasonous Mass Immigration Fanatics Of The Worst Sort.

    Rishi Sunak Is An Asian Indian Interloper Nation Destroyer Who Is Using Mass Immigration As A Demographic Weapon To Attack And Destroy England. Screw the UK crud — ENGLAND.

    Rishi Sunak Opens The Asian Indian Invader Floodgates In England.

    Biden and Trump and some antipodean nut and that Asian Indian Prime Minister of England are openly calling for the USA and Australia and England to be flooded out with a mass immigration invasionary flood of Asian Indian interloper invaders.

    Modi has big plans to flood the Anglo-Saxon nations with a hundred million Haughty Hindu Asian Indian Invader Interlopers.

  54. @Arthur MacBride

    JFYI

    On DPICM (Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions)

    1…. 🇺🇲🇺🇦⚡It is most likely that the announced cluster munitions for the Armed Forces (DPICM) will be unguided 155 mm M864 artillery shells.

    This projectile carries 48 M42 submunitions and 24 heavier M46 submunitions, which disperse as the projectile approaches the target and explode on impact.

    2…. 🇺🇲🇺🇦⚡US will be ready to provide Israel-style security guarantees to Ukraine after the end of the conflict with Russia – Biden

    (from tg)

    It seems Scott Ritter has said DPICM supplied bc it’s all that’s left in USA stocks.
    Hmm … ??

    Those “security guarantees” have to be worth a lot … 😎
    Like “money” in the “bank” ….

  55. Just like Nuland, works in both parties to push Jewish Supremacism.



    Video Link

  56. Malla says:
    @Ghali

    India under the Modi anti-Muslim Fascist regime is a U.S. lapdog and will do anything not to upset the U.S. regime.

    This is some of the dumbest B.S. I have ever read. How is Modi “fascist”? He was voted into power by democratic elections by the largest democracy in the World? Extremely popular among 1/6th of humanity. How is he “fascist”? Iran and China are way more “fascist” than India can be.
    Lapdog of the USA??? How so? Then why is India sticking to Russia and resist constant Western pressure to give up on Russia? How is that lapdog behaviour?

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  57. @Anonymous

    So just what has Russia achieved there?

    Isn’t it obvious? Bashar al-Assad is STILL president of Syria. Syria return to the Arab League. Peace, stability and development in the region will follow contrary to Western Imperialist plans to keep region under control via Israel:

    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/syrias-arab-league-return-proof-that-when-us-shadow-shrinks-peace-spreads-china

    • Agree: Carlton Meyer
  58. @Mehool Mehta

    my dear mefool, 30to 50% of indian politicians are are thugs and heads of gangs , your politicians even kidnap rich bussinessman for millions of dollars in ransom this is why india will stay stuck in poverty , china s gdp would not be within spitting distance of head of five eyed country if the leadership were corruopt you moron.You bindus are so afraid of China that you shake in your sarongs, just being close to a gold chink you shake from your loongi up your spine to your curly small head. Yu nedd to be careful my bindu for if China stopps all export to your country your GDP be would contract by few points.

  59. @Mehool Mehta

    Hahaha Gali Bhai, what joke. Chinese government is mafia filled with the worst kind of criminal mind peoples. See how China really works behind facade. Chinese government is one big mafia.

    Mafia (noun)
    1. an organized international body of criminals, operating originally in Sicily and now especially in Italy and the US and having a complex and ruthless behavioural code.

    By definition, CPC cannot be a mafia. In fact CPC is “Communist Party of China”. What matters are facts on the ground. China was below India economically when the CPC took over in 1949. Today it is the #1 economy in the World by PPP. The CPC has lifter over 800 million people out of poverty and laid the foundation of hope and prosperity for future generations. The country is well above “developing nation” status and anyone who has visited China can attest to this fact:

    Mehool, how can anyone be so blind. Were you one of the half million people injured by Union Carbide’s chemical toxin disaster in Bhopal in 1984?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  60. Bro43rd says:
    @Poupon Marx

    Hey RB, I think they call it projection, nuf said!

    • Thanks: RoatanBill
  61. Emslander says:
    @RoatanBill

    always capture the levers of power because of people stupid enough to think that there can ever be a benevolent government.

    There are not many people who believe that a government can be “benevolent”, any more than a toaster can. However, most people do believe that, at some stage of its development, a government can approximate justice and efficiency. Unfortunately, we’re far from that with our current form of government by the robots of the digital oligarchy.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Brad Anbro
  62. @Malla

    How easy people fall into slothful mental habits! Fascism as a word has no defined, near universal meaning anymore. It just excites emotion. I am glad that you take the trouble to point out stupidity, thought and logical errors, and fragmented cognition.

    • Agree: 1jonny
    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  63. @Gerry

    Gerry,

    Being 72 years old and a former church-goer, I am familiar with the passages of the Bible that you cited. I have been doing a LOT of thinking about this lately, especially in light of the World Economic Forum, and their Jew PAWNS, head honcho Klaus Schwab and his chief mouthpiece, Yuval Harari.

    I believe that the “mark of the beast,” or “device of complete control of humans throughout the world,” for people who discount what the Bible says, could be comprised of a number of things: smartphones being able to scan the QR codes and emitting of radio-frequency (RF) signals; credit cards that have chips embedded in them, or chip implants in the human body.

    What with this desired rollout of CBDC (central bank digital currency), the “mark of the beast” is only a skip away from becoming reality. Something to think about!

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Apostolos
  64. @Poupon Marx

    Poupon Marx seems to be now the “self”-appointed “counter-offensive” conductor in response to this Old Man’s comments on this site. The strategy seems to be the deployment of a sort of blanket condemnation, founded upon some notion Poupon Marx seems to believe is or ought to be taken as given by all “right thinking” people. and never ever addressing directly and specifically anything from the “offending” comment itself.

    Poupon Marx clearly “self”-identifies as being among those “many erudite masters of the language” who are by implication at-least leaned so heavily upon to supply the counterfeit “beef” so obviously lacking in Poupon Marx’s own dishings-up of completely empty calories here. A sensible question to ask about this is: How come one of these “erudite masters” feels so compelled to expend all this verbiage in a vain effort to discredit the musings of an admitted unreconstructed primitive savage who is only offering a view of Things decidedly different from the establishmentarian takes of Poupon Marx and, by the reckoning of Poupon Marx, every “right thinking” individual at all times in all places?

    Is maybe Poupon Marx getting nervous about the exposure of all the holes in his own world view, not so much really by one Old Indian, but by the Day-to-Day actuality of unfolding events and circumstances? Is that what is inducing in Poupon Marx an apparently knee-jerk reaction to simply seeing descriptions of it in-print, so-to-speak?

    Poupon Marx seems to be somewhat alarmed by the presence of some commenters here who got somehow “snared” by something this Old Man has said. Nevermind the utter arrogance exhibited by Poupon Marx in such “self-“ satisfied maunderings. That character trait is pretty amply on-display in just about everything Poupon Marx posts here. What’s interesting is Poupon Marx’s evident obsession with things said to have no validity whatsoever, and the ensuing drive to make sure everybody “knows” that. So much semantic supposed-to-be “fire-power” for such a supposedly insignificant “target.” Maybe that just comes from knowing that Poupon Marx is shooting blanks.

    So what exactly is Poupon Marx so afraid-of? Anyhow, nothing around here better illustrates and exemplifies the the essential characteristics of “Doublespeak-talk” than the meaning-modification snow-jobs of Poupon Marx.

    • Disagree: maskazer
    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  65. @Emslander

    Just to make sure we understand the meaning of words:
    benevolent
    adjective
    1a: marked by or disposed to doing good
    b: organized for the purpose of doing good

    If people don’t believe the gov’t is a force for good, then why do they support it by voting for the continuation of the existing pattern of behavior? The efficiency of not doing good would be counter to the average person’s interests, would it not?

    People keep looking for a saint to elect and what they get is a bumbling idiot blatant criminal like Biden or a do nothing like Trump. The other options have been an Obama that helped decimate Yugoslavia and Bush that invaded Iraq and Afghanistan to kill people that never harmed the US in any way.

    Did the Jan 6 people get justice? How about the thousands of 9/11 people killed in a false flag operation, did they get justice? Is the efficiency of collecting taxes to fund wars while neglecting infrastructure the efficiency you’re talking about? How about the efficiency of finding piles of currency to give to Israel and Ukraine while the economy sinks due to monetary inflation that naturally leads to price inflation that leads to interest rate hikes that lead to people losing their homes.

    Maybe it was the efficiency of producing the vax that is now being implicated in genocide. Is that the efficiency you want?

    When in your lifetime has the gov’t every been on your side? Can you point at any efficiency that has benefited the average person?

    • Replies: @Emslander
  66. @Emslander

    Emslander,

    Quote:

    “There are not many people who believe that a government can be “benevolent”, any more than a toaster can. However, most people do believe that, at some stage of its development, a government can approximate justice and efficiency.”

    In regard to the above quote —

    I am a 72-year-old American and I believe that 99% of the American people are either so brain-washed or are so preoccupied with trying to hold a job and making their myriad monthly payments on time, that they do not concern themselves in the least with what is really going on here in the USA (and throughout the so-called free world) or whether their government is benevolent (can be trusted) or not.

    Americans, in addition to the above-mentioned reason, are preoccupied with the sh*t that they see on television & in the movies, their cars, their phones. their tattoos, their piercings, their outlandish hair colorings and their sports teams.

    I have a neighbor who is slightly younger than myself. I have let him borrow DVDs to watch, ones which cover the assassinations, banking, wars, and September 11, 2001. He has my phone number and knows where I live, but he has never called me, to engage in intelligent conversation, he has never visited me, and when I have dropped the DVDs off or picked them up, he has never asked me any questions about the content on the DVDs.

    I asked him what kind of provider he had for his TVs (he has TWO TVs in his living room), since I saw a dish outside his trailer for satellite. He told me that he did not have either cable or satellite; he goes to the library for access to the internet. I told him that he could buy a reconditioned commercial Lenovo® computer for $110. It would not come with a monitor, keyboard or a mouse, but I could GIVE him those, since I have many extras. I told him that he could get an internet connection from the local electric utility company that would be as fast as cable, with unlimited use and that it would cost $50 per month. He told me that he didn’t want to spend $50 monthly on an internet connection.

    Obviously, he does NOT want to further his education as to what is going on around us. I will not waste my time loaning him any more DVDs or trying to engage him in conversation.

    Like they say, “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.”

    Thank you.

  67. Some will be aware that leaders of the “nazi” Azov Batt were captured in Mariupol and allowed to go to Turkey. Misguided clemency, perhaps … Anyway Pres Erdoğan has released them back to Zelensky against all agreements …

    There is speculation what this photo-op cost the west ….
    Here’s Dima on this media war episode fwiw.

    What you need to understand about the return of the Azov commanders from Turkey to Ukraine.

    The decision to return these people to Ukraine, in violation of the agreements, changes absolutely nothing on the battlefield. All the stories about the fact that the morale of the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine after this will be raised are lies. The arrival of these characters in Kyiv will not strengthen the offensive on the Vremevsky ledge and will not help move through the minefields in Zaporozhye, because this is not what is needed for combat operations.

    You also need to remember that the topic of the return of these people to Ukraine is being actively sold to the Western public at the peak of the unsuccessful offensive, deliberately to shift the focus of attention from the huge losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and silence the unsuccessful frontal attacks, which the command of the Ukrainian army is now actively trying to come up with an alternative. They are trying to wash away 34 days of the unsuccessful offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with PR events.

    They tried to raise morale by similar events before. If we recall the story of the British mercenary Aiden Eslin, we can see that these people can only play for the camera, but they are useless on the battlefield.

    In reality, the return of people who fled from the cellars of Azovstal and covered themselves with civilians until the last moment will not affect the trajectory of the artillery shell.

  68. @RoatanBill

    Imbecilic statement, as usual. Maybe we should just leave all our self governing and regulatory functions to Jewish banksters instead.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  69. @Psychotic Break

    Can you backup your rhetoric with anything more than a drive by comment?

    Can you show where I’m mistaken?

    Are you just one of the numerous people on this site whose only real contribution is to fling shit?

    BTW – it was the gov’t that invited the bankers into the system. Without gov’t approval and complicity, the bankers wouldn’t be as powerful as they are.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  70. Anon001 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    … Russia will surrender. To whom? Why?

    Hi Mike, good to hear from you. With a first-class traitor [1][2] in Kremlin, anything is possible. It appears that he does not even consider Crimea part of Russia [3], let alone other areas! Yes, you read that right. Among other things, he is not even hiding that he was led by the nose by his “partners” [4].

    [1] Maybe Prigozhin Was Telling the Truth About the Russian MoD?
    https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/maybe-prigozhin-was-telling-the-truth

    [2] American Special Forces Versus Russian Mercenaries in Syria – The War Horse
    https://thewarhorse.org/special-forces-soldiers-reveal-first-details-of-battle-with-russian-mercenaries-in-syria/

    [3] Lukashenko Reveals Hidden Sell-Out Agenda Behind Secret Moscow-Kiev Talks
    https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/belarus-reveals-hidden-sell-out-agenda

    [4] Putin: As for Donbass, we hoped that we would be able to solve this problem peacefully. But as it turns out now, we were simply led by the nose, none of our so-called partners were going to solve anything peacefully.

    Regards, Anon001 – Comments Archive @ The Unz Review
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Anon001

  71. @Arthur MacBride

    Andrei comments on these Azov Nazis visiting a prestigious US university, and other news.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  72. Avery says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    { Misguided clemency, perhaps … Anyway Pres Erdoğan has released them back to Zelensky against all agreements …}

    It wasn’t misguide clemency.
    Unfortunately a large number of Russians were captured as POWs during the initial phases of SMO. There was some disorganization on Russians’ part, and bad intelligence.
    (remember the 100 or so FSB agents Putin fired? that was the main reason).
    Worse, some VDV (airborne) troops were ambushed and captured: those were the troops that UkroNazis filmed while they cut their throats while alive.
    Really, really horrible.
    But Putin had to swallow the bitter pill and exchange large numbers of Russian POWs for the Azov thugs.

    In any case, the Azov thugs being released by Erdogan will not make any difference as Dima writes.
    However, the bigger issue is the fact that Erdogan stabbed Putin in the back*.
    Erdogan also apparently now says Ukraine deserves to be in NATO, after his meeting with Zelensky.
    Ukraine in NATO is No-No for Putin/Russia.
    The fact that Erdogan is sticking it to Putin is quite significant.
    Don’t know the reason, but Russians will just have to go all the way to the Polish border.
    No country called Ukraine, no NATO in Ukraine.

    ____________________________
    *
    https://www.rt.com/news/579406-kremlin-kiev-ankara-deal/

    [Türkiye’s release of Ukrainian neo-Nazis violates deal – Kremlin
    Both Ankara and Kiev have broken a 2022 prisoner exchange agreement with Moscow, Dmitry Peskov has insisted]

  73. @Constant Walker

    Your are always good for a laugh. The song line from Porgy and Bess by George Gershwin come to my mind when I think of you as a random word generator, like some machine picking lottery winning numbers.

    “Yes, I (you) got plenty of nothing
    And nothing’s plenty for me (you).”

    Perhaps, because of my professional background of no tolerance for dross, poor quality concepts or opinions, etc, your double palaver hyper-double drivel sets me off.

    • Agree: maskazer
    • Replies: @Constant Walker
  74. @Poupon Marx

    Alright, we get it now. Poupon Marx is psycho-emotionally fragile and easily triggered….due to the highly refined condition Poupon Marx’s “professional” Condition is in. What’s particularly impressive about that is how the silly “self”-defensive barbs Poupon Marx intends to prick somebody “else” never miss skewering the customary epistolary practices of this “self”-same Poupon Marx. That “no tolerance” rule might be most beneficially applied to those, first….out of a decent respect for the law that ought to govern stone-throwing people living in glass houses.

    Meantime, Poupon Marx can go on laughing-it-up ‘til all the Sacred Cows come home. Us surviving Free Wild Peoples of every Kind are All still here in Indian Country, and we ain’t going away in any time-frame that will be at all meaningful for all the establishmentarians who’re already well on their way out.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  75. @Avery

    People like Rolo Slavskiy decry VVPs seeming trait of letting anybody get away with anything and although it is possible that there are wheels within wheels and uletrior motives, there is truth to this view.

    This latest episode adds fuel to that fire, it seems.
    Nor is it alone.

  76. I don’t think Lukashenko’s idea is good. SCO was mainly about security and only supposed to be regional. Yes it makes sense for neighboring countries to physically connect and trade in local currencies – but that doesn’t mean it should merge with BRICS. BRICS was always global and always about economics. SCO should remain firstly a security grouping and not let mission creep get it off course. Yes economics and security go together – but there is a huge difference between a regional and international organization.

  77. @bob sykes

    Modi seems like a jovial version of Erdogan to me…. Want to be on every side. Pakistan would be like the Kurds…. But yeah joining SCO makes no sense then since the whole issue was Russia wanted India in because they are good friends and China wanted Pakistan in because they are good friends. India could have said no… So what you said makes good sense…. Spoiler like Erdogan.

  78. @Avery

    Don’t know the reason, but Russians will just have to go all the way to the Polish border.
    No country called Ukraine, no NATO in Ukraine.

    I’ve said the same thing. There is no alternative for Russia than to control all of Ukraine and incorporate it as a separate republic, which interestingly and ironically, would be better for Ukrainians a hundred different ways. The separate republics of Russian Federation are mostly self-governing. The Federation is a confederation.

    I am amazed that no Ukrainian public figure recognizes this and would rather be buggered by ZIONIST Oligarchic rapists than achieve dignity and prosperity aligned with Russia.

    Once in San Francisco I met a girl from Boston, who seemed to be living on the street, at least part time. I felt pity for her as she seemed to be struggling against internal and external hardship, and invited her to share lunch at a modest place. When we sat down, she had a psychotic episode and started in with aggressive speech when I asked her if she had any friends. When the waiter came, something triggered her into a rage. I nodded to the waiter when he called for backup to eject her. She was hopeless, just as Ukrainians all seem to be incapable of deciding what is best for them-like children or mental patients.

    Just as a well traveled and independent thinking friend of mine once said of Australian Aborigines, quoting James Cook, the famous explorer and navigator, characterized them as “very. plain people”. Likewise Ukrainians could be eulogized as very “simple” people.

  79. @one nobody

    Correct there are a lot of layers. Recall though that in recent years Pakistan and Iran have started to “play nice” with each other. Even cooperating on the Baloch insurgents on both sides of their border (“bonus” article below showing how Iranian press speaks positively about Pakistan now). That of course was part of the preparation for them both to be in the SCO. Then of course China helped Iran and Saudi Arabia to re-establish diplomatic ties. So there will be less “competition” for influence in Pakistan. Pakistan and Iran are neighbors and so it behooves both to improve security and economic ties. Saudi Arabia “shouldn’t” be a spoiler anymore.

    As to Chahabar… You are correct that was India’s plan. But then India obeyed US sanctions against Iran. So what happened??? Snooze you lose… This happened – Iran let China move in:

    https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/480298/China-launches-direct-shipping-line-to-Iran-s-Chabahar-port

    https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/486615/Iran-applauds-Pakistan-for-declaring-Day-of-Honoring-the-Holy

    • Replies: @One Nobody
    , @anon
  80. Notsofast says:
    @Avery

    just as there is more (or less) to prigozhin, than meets the eye, there is more to erdogan as well. after the second unsuccessful coup (this time through the ballot box) in turkiye, it is highly unlikely erdogan would jump ship from the county that saved him, by renegotiating his debt, to the country that twice attempted to over throw him, over a grain deal. this is as much kabuki theater as prigozhin selling out for a billion in cash and gold (lol), and marching on moscow.

    these azov thugs are now within the reach of moscow and i’ll just bet, they don’t want to go back for fear of eventually facing the music.

    the war crimes you speak of, will be investigated by the russian government and any war crimes wagner may have committed (sledgehammers and such), were committed by a private army no longer working for the russian federation. this all looks like positioning for the russian end game, the idiot zioneocons, don’t seem to be able to see it coming, or most likely, they’ll just don’t want to.

  81. Ace says:
    @Constant Walker

    So . . . electro-mechanical accelerators and intensifiers?

    • Replies: @Constant Walker
  82. @RoatanBill

    I’ve flushed you out many times, Bilious. But I’m tired and I’ve got to ramble on.

    Looking at the city of St Petersburg, the people well dressed and fed, the organization of Human Resources to provide for the well being (food, shelter, utilities, health care, etc ), one can see the brilliance of your “anarchist”, no structure, no authority, no hierarchy, “freedom”. No rules, make your own rules, do what you want, respect others and have peaceful intentions and you will receive the same-always.

    Yes, Bill, let’s all go naked, ignore what you don’t like. Full tribal. No higher association than kibutzzim and communes. Oops, there we go with rules again. Anarchy. No structure.

    Now, tell us where your anarchy system has worked, is working, has been tried. Anybody can talk and propose, hypothesize and predict. But what separates the asylum from the Real World is actuality, proof of concept, reality feedback.

    Show us what you’ve got, a prototype, a model, an example, etc. I believe you are really a homeless guy living in a cardboard box, in your world of no rules, no obligation, no structure, in the narthex of nihilism.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • LOL: RoatanBill
  83. Anon001 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    This guy must be off his head to think Russia will surrender.

    Have you read the article [1]? It’s the Kissinger [2] that is preparing his pupil/recruit Putin to surrender those territories and then retire! Globalists seem to be worried that, if this continues like this, i.e. this farce showing that the “emperor” has no clothes, patriots may rise up casing them to lose control of Russia.

    Excerpt [1]: Then Kissinger came out and said that he was confident that negotiations would begin by the end of this year as well. He also said that he believed they would spell the end of Putin. This is the guy who is considered Putin’s old friend [3] …

    Excerpt [2]: President Vladimir Putin may struggle to hold on to power if the war in Ukraine forces Russia to abandon military aggression and accept a peace deal with Europe, former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said. “I would like a Russia that recognizes that its relations to Europe have to be based on agreement and a kind of consensus and I believe that this war will, if it’s ended properly, may make it achievable,” Kissinger told Bloomberg’s Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait in an interview. Asked whether Putin could survive in power if the war ended on those terms, Kissinger replied: “It’s improbable.” The veteran diplomat said it’s important that Ukraine emerges from the war as a strong democracy, and preferable to avoid “the dissolution of Russia or the reduction of Russia to resentful impotence” that risked stoking new tensions.

    [1] Moscow Will Probably Begin Formal Surrender Negotiations By the End of the Year
    https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/moscow-will-probably-begin-formal

    [2] Kissinger Says Putin Survival ‘Improbable’ If Ukraine Prevails – Bloomberg
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-15/kissinger-says-putin-survival-improbable-if-ukraine-prevails

    [3] Photo: Putin with his mentor/teacher Kissinger

    Regards, Anon001 – Comments Archive @ The Unz Review
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Anon001

    • Thanks: 1jonny
  84. A gold backed Ruble will mean that any US citizen holding gold will be Putin sympathizer and a such their gold needs to be confiscated.

  85. Ace says:
    @Ghali

    Perhaps Modi and his supporters have had enough of Muslim sense of superiority and periodic attacks on Hindus.

    • Replies: @obam
  86. @Anonymous

    Huh? Without Iranian militias and Hezbollah and Russian military – both northern Iraq and Syria would be ruled by ISIS. Secular Assad would have been a dead man. Assad surviving is what stopped the dominoes from falling and the Arab Spring fizzling out. It has brought about a tacit peace between Shia and Sunni nations which thwarting the divide and rule tactics. So it accomplished a lot. Not just Russia – but they are a major major part.

  87. Why is South Africa in BRICS? It’s a tiny country compared to the other four, is run by negros, and is collapsing. OTOH – it has a lot of gold mines and the gold standard is coming back.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  88. Ace says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s as DBB noted. Assad is still in power. The Russians are playing a waiting game there. The coming US financial implosion is guaranteed to make it look inward and withdraw from foreign bases and wars.

    Israel’s pinprick attacks in Syria can be tolerated as it too is facing very serious internal schism, not to mention the fact that the damage to Syrian cities is already immense. What’s one more air strike?

    Israel also knows that Hezbollah is a formidable opponent and that Iron Dome cannot hold the line against heavy bombardment. It will always leak a little, even initially and after a short while it will run out of ammunition. The correlation of forces does not favor it or the US.

    The US is desperate to turn its attention to China and after Ukraine is defeated there will be an effort to shut down peripheral efforts in Europe and the ME.

    • Agree: barr
  89. @Priss Factor

    But that is the BBC sewer, Ground Zero for filthy and depraved lying. One sure sign of a majority world victory would be the sight of BBC HQ being demolished, brick by brick, by BBC presstitutes serving hard labour for crimes of disinformation and hate-mongering.

  90. @Hang All Text Drivers

    Because the people who run BRICS are not racist thugs like you.

  91. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    9/11 The BIGGEST LIE 27 – “The LAST STRAW” – By James Easton & Doug Michael, 8 July 2023
    https://www.brighteon.com/0c9a4c7f-4399-4e1f-a282-4da8eb6ca6f5

  92. obam says:
    @Ace

    Modi uses that lie . But that is his not original. RSS – BJP has started doing it from 1987 finding the formula will help them keep the middle class and lower caste enthralled and in tow while being exploited to the tee . But at least middle class sees religious redemption and existential gratification when nothing else out there for them look to the future with any hope.

    • Replies: @Malla
  93. 1jonny says:
    @Anon001

    Well, he believes that Russia and China are both in on the global governance thing. I don’t see where he gives evidence.

    • Replies: @Anon001
    , @Anon001
  94. @Poupon Marx

    Look who’s talking at the image in their mirror….again.

  95. barr says:

    For Russia,the war did not turnout to be the replays of 2008 and 2014. But the war also showed to the world how west creates ground for war and uses proxies for war across the globe. Russia was preparing for showdown with the mechanism of the west’s control of economy but was not ready for the
    readiness of Germany and France to play the role of vassalage to US.
    That sanction can be survived has been shown by Russia.
    Russian war has also started the slow but inexorable process of removing dollar as a weapon of war and sanctions.

    A frozen conflict will be the best outcome for the world because it will prevent oligarch and opportunist in Russia pivot back to US . This also will create new crops of leaders in global south who will recalibrate relation with the west . Days of color revolution and coup by other means are over.
    Also the asset from global south wont be that easily transferred to western banks .
    Asian meltdown of 1997 or Russian meltdown of 90sare over.

    Russia cant afford to lose . Even if Putin were removed or killed,the next person would turn out be openly nationalistic and ruthless .

    Frozen coflict might end up suiing the warmongering neocon and the defense. They love money and power without working for it. But this time the victims of their murderous behaviors , cronyism ,and incestous existence in the think tank will limit the victims to the westernen enclaves .
    Other countries outside West wont subsidize them .
    How will the west get rid of the neocon? Ideological thinking has already started .

    Neocons by instigating wars ,interventions, by coups and finanical exploitation or sanctions have allowed massive migrations . Add the economic shape and cultural fights . The western society is rife with potential of civic disorders .

    The civil war that these parasites are making a reality will kill these very parasites .

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  96. @barr

    Magical thinking. Russia will settle for nothing less than unconditional surrender and complete control of Ukraine. This is immutable. All Nazis and criminals in Ukraine must be tried in Russian courts. This is the public will that will not ever change.

    Your comment is largely nonsensical and whimsical.

    • Replies: @Barr
  97. Malla says:
    @obam

    Modi is not that different from Erdogan. Modi is basically an Indian Hindu version of Erdogan while Erdogan is a Muslim Turkish version of Modi. The only difference is Modi could not go to the extent Erdogan went in ruining his country because of India’s inheritance of Anglo Saxon British Empire, balance of power mechanism which reduces the power of a demagogue and the wisdom of India’s founding fathers of enshrining that system in India’s constitution. Turkey does not have anything of that sort, at least not as effective. Had India not had the British Empire inheritance of Balance of power as well as her founding fathers enshrinement of that in the Constitution (Thank you, Mr. Ambedkar), Modi and his gang would have run riot with India and run it to the ground the way Erdogand ran Turkey to the ground.

    • Replies: @obam
  98. @Ace

    The main effect of “tech” on the activities of the Humans deploying it has been more force and more speed. Institutional set-ups are also often configured to bring-about or enable the multiplication of exactly these effects.

    So that today these systems can and do operate at speeds and with “power” that leave the Humans using them mostly just along for the ride….mostly compelled by the imperatives built-into them to simply “service” such of their needs still requiring temporarily a Human accessory. They are already exhibiting autonomous behaviors that won’t and can’t be effectively curbed because they are so interlocked already that to attempt to rein-in one component is to risk the potentially catastrophic disruption of the entire contraption.

    Witness the near total inability already of institutional set-ups to do anything to address systemic crises except by measures that more-and-more severely regiment the domesticated Human components of the LivingLoving Arrangement. That is the default-setting precisely because, left more to their own inclinations, these Humans pose increasingly unacceptable “challenges” to the smooth and efficient operation of the very meta-system most are made to feel highly dependent upon for things seen as vital to their well-being. This likely helps to explain, for just one recent instance, the relative ease with which authorities could convince so many that there was a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”….despite having no actual evidence of that at-all, and no actual experience of it among the manipulated muddled masses.

    Yet no matter how draconian these “Human resource management” regimes become, it is guaranteed that there will be just such a disruption, and much sooner than later because of the “tech” effect, if for no other reason than the Natural Fact of the meta-system itself operating in a LivingLoving Arrangement with countless variables beyond its control….it’s own Human hangers-on hardly least among those. At which point all that “power” and speed will only work to accelerate and intensify the ensuing disintegration and collapse. Of-course by then there might not be anybody left here to give a good-goddamn anyhow.

  99. Malla says:
    @obam

    BJP-RSS are not pro-Western at all but are extremely anti-Western. They are primarily anti-Western far more then they are anti-Muslim. In India it is not West vs Muslims, it is Hindus vs both West and Muslims.

    For Example
    https://www.firstpost.com/opinion-news-expert-views-news-analysis-firstpost-viewpoint/how-narendra-modi-is-decolonising-indias-colonial-mindset-11275531.html
    How Narendra Modi is decolonising India’s colonial mindset
    Prime Minister Narendra Modi has, in the past eight years, taken several steps to replace obvious vestiges of India’s most recent experience of colonial rule

    Hell even the Chinese Global Times praised Hindutva Modi in this, LOL.

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202305/1291598.shtml
    We morally, emotionally support India’s decolonization: Global Times editorial

    But what the Chinese do not under stand is that, decolonisation in India does not mean, a more friendly India to China. In India it is not West vs China or West vs Muslims. In India it is India vs West+China+ Muslims. Indians look at Muslims and Chinese just as Imperialist/ colonislaist as the West. And may be for good reason. This is something the Chinese and the Muslims cannot grasp about India.

    India’s tilt towards the West is only because of it’s threat perception about China. And also to create a relationship with the USA, the way China created decades ago, basically trying to recreate the special US-China economic relations, now for India. But I think it is too late now, the global situation is not like as it was in the 1980s or 90s. Western populations are deep in debt and do not have the deep pockets they had decades ago when they consumed Chinese goods. Also the USA is slowly moving away from globalization. India is trying to get into a boat for a ship that has sailed away. Decades of Nehruvian Socialist policy as well as psychotic anti-colonial crackpot falsified history means, India could never truly join in the globalisation system to benefit for it, it could never get over the suspicion towards the West and the rest of the World in time. By the time, India got over it’s suspicion of the West and the World, it is already too late.
    This is all because India was psychotically anti-colonial, there was a anti-British Empire hate frenzy where any crackpot would dream up British Imperial torture porn history. Tired of decades of anti-British hatred, that anti-colonial craze has not latched into the Islamic Imperialist age which preceded the British Empire. Hindutva is Indian anti-colonialism part 2.

    India’s support for Russia is because of deep Indo-Soviet relationships of the past. Remember that while Communist China backstabbed the USSR, went close to the USA after the Sino Soviet split, India remained a staunch ally of the USSR till the end.

  100. Barr says:
    @Poupon Marx

    And your response is clear moronic display of stupidity .

  101. @dogbumbreath

    Mehool represents the punka-walla, sepoy, mentality still extant among Indian ‘elites’. India and China started out from relatively similar positions in the late 40s, and China has, despite various set-backs, created the greatest economic, social welfare and technological leap in history, while ‘democratic’ India has stagnated. The envy that this has incited in the Indian ‘elite’ is ferocious, and self-destructive.

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  102. @Aleatorius

    So what? Modi is obviously insane as well as evil. No surprise, there. I wonder what caste he is. Here in Austfailia, and elsewhere that Indians are settling in the Anglosphere, upper caste thugs are discriminating heavily against lower caste immigrants. ‘Democracy’ suits the Hindutva pathopsychology perfectly.

    • Replies: @Aleatorius
  103. @showmethereal

    Thank you my friend for the info.
    You also might look at it as a detant between HizbAlllah, Shia proxi and the Muslim Brotherhood Sunni proxi.

  104. @Gerry

    Thank you my friend for the info.
    You also might look at it as a detant between HizbAlllah, Shia proxi and the Muslim Brotherhood Sunni proxi.

  105. @Constant Walker

    Your point is well taken but, if I may a little pessimistic.
    China, Iran, the ME and all the ancient world are civilizations that have had, along the centuries, different types of governments serving their survival. Take China for example, they have employed every form of government. Today, they are a hybrid with one part Central Planning and one part Free Trade and Investments. (China resisted the control of the Old Colonial moneyed interests.)
    Most importantly, China allows its people to store gold, the best way to maintain sovereignty.
    Unlike these ancient civilizations, Europe is relatively new. It has basically transposed its feudalism onto the the world. When I say Europe. I only mean the elite psychopaths.
    To sum it up, these old civilizations will continue to replace engines and transmissions depending on their needs and circumstance. The Silk Road isn’t a concept. It was a reality until the European Colonialist destroyed it and replaced with shipping lanes controlled by their piracy.

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  106. @Constant Walker

    Quite a sober and realistic view of human nature which by and large stays the same as history progresses with different protagonists who always revert to the same tendency to seek dominance, subjugation and control.

    But when things get to the low the world has reached after the post WWII order, any attempt at changing what hitherto has proven to be a disastrous failure at balancing the productive activity against oppressive, parasitical FIRE agents, is welcome relief.

    But then, it has been a constant that the way to hell is paved with good intentions. Let us dare hope that this time it will be different.

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  107. Emslander says:
    @RoatanBill

    When in your lifetime has the gov’t every been on your side? Can you point at any efficiency that has benefited the average person?

    I don’t vote with the purpose of getting a government that “is on my side”. That’s where your delusion begins, Bill. You and the little girly-boy millenials and X-Gens think that democracy is doing precisely what they want, even if the vast majority oppose their desires, like same-sex marriage and transgenderism.

    Voting is simple and is a very small burden. You don’t vote, but you spend hours of your time in front of a keyboard spouting outrageous and unsupported blather. It takes me fifteen minutes to vote and I often vote for the person who wins. Not always.

    Is government efficient? Very seldom. That’s why I vote for the person who says they want less of it. My belief is that we’re in the midst of a psychological syndrome that sees that a government is the source of every good or ill in their lives. This is insanity.

    Is government just? Very seldom. That’s why I vote for the person who wants the government involved in very few decisions.

    Maybe you just don’t read very well, Bill. I said that we hope for a government that approximates justice and efficiency. I also said that we’re nowhere near that in this modern technocratic age. Nevertheless, you went off on a rage of irrelevancies.

    NO government will ever be benevolent or “good”. Only God is good, I read somewhere. Government is not God.

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  108. @Commentator Mike

    Stabbed Vietnam in the back how? by telling it that it couldn’t invade Cambodia?
    Stabbed the Soviets in the back? I guess only after taking the knife out that the Soviets had used on them. Remember Xinjiang and Outer Mongolia…. In any event both Russia and China it seems learned they both suffered blowback. The Soviets “lost” China who eventually befriended the west. But then China also suffered blowback because the Uighur militants in Xinjiang were trained and equipped by the same jihadis in Afghanistan that China helped the US to train and arm. That was the whole entire reason as to why China and Russia formed the SCO with the Central Asia “stans” — to correct the wrongs that happened between them.
    Modi Taking snipes at Pakistan in the meeting??? Has India learned yet?
    All human relationships are fallible. The question is do people and countries learn from their mistakes.

    • Replies: @Malla
  109. @Gerry

    “I’m actually quite suspicious that the QR Code is exactly what St. John saw in his vision of no man being able to buy or sell unless he had the mark or number of his name in hand or forehead”

    Americans wouldn’t know – but that is what has been going on with the US dollar for a long time now. That’s exactly how US sanctions work. Marks in the hand and forehead are symbolic in the Bible. israelites were instructed to keep the Bible like frontlets on their foreheads and marks in the hand. That vision of John is symbolic in the satanic system to the attempt to control the earth. The US dollar has been that for decades already. I’m sure the new homosexual leader of Latvia they proudly proclaim to be the first will be a supporter of the US dollar status quo.

  110. @Poupon Marx

    [Fascism as a word has no defined, near universal meaning anymore]

    The classical definition of fascism by the history master Benito Mussolini: Fascism is the merger of state and corporate power.

    This is precisely how RFK Jr described the USA.

    The last time I visited India back in 1999, I noticed that policemen do not carry a gun but a stick. That should give an idea about how much Fascist is India. But then, even in democracies, some unfair policies could be applied against a hated minority by the majority.

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  111. @Commentator Mike

    One should distinguish between traditionalist China and communist China. What you describe happened under the reign of Mao who was as ideologically extreme as one can be.

    Traditionalist China has tended to be inward looking and pragmatic. Deng Xiaoping adjusted the course of Communist China when he started his reforms.

    When the Vietnamese started labour actions against Chinese enterprises, motivated by hatred of a historic enemy in addition to whatever other unjust working conditions they suffered from, the Chinese simply folded their businesses and sought greener pasture. I very much doubt that would have been the approach of a Western imperialistic power.

  112. Malla says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Mehool represents the punka-walla, sepoy, mentality still extant among Indian ‘elites’.

    Farting of a brain damaged monkey. Nothing but Chinese Communist gloating. In India, it are the poor masses who hate China, not only the elites. Indeed the poor masses are even more anti-China than the elites. They consider China as an Imperialist backstabbing bitch who will be one day taught a lesson.
    Sepoy, sepoy…same ol monkey fartings. China backstabs the USSR and lick Uncle Sam’s butthole, Chinese sepoy. India remains staunchly loyal to the USSR till the end. India supports Russia today even if the West puts pressure on India. This sepoy term is a cheap Chinese method to explain to themselves why 1.4 billion Indians consider China an Imperialist whore.

    • Replies: @Aleatorius
  113. Malla says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    Did any of you guys, maskazer, kicktheroos, dogbumbreath actually watch the videos posted by Mehool Uncle They are very good, explains how the Chinese Communist mafia system works behind the scenes. Looks like we have the American mafia and then we have some anti-American countries who are Mafia too.

  114. @Arthur MacBride

    It won’t change anything on the battlefield. But releasing those Azov commanders shows Erdogan to be a snake…. again and again.

    • Agree: Avery, Arthur MacBride
  115. H. L. M says:
    @Emslander

    I said that we hope for a government that approximates justice and efficiency.

    Wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one fills up first.

    LOL

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  116. Malla says:
    @showmethereal

    Uighur militants in Xinjiang were trained and equipped by the same jihadis in Afghanistan that China helped the US to train and arm

    Booo Hooo, poor China, the Middle Kingdom had a problem with Islamic fundamentalists in Xinjiang/ East Turkistan but India cannot protest about Pakistanis training Islamic terrorists for attacking India in Kashmir.

    Modi Taking snipes at Pakistan in the meeting??? Has India learned yet?

    Islamic terrorists in Xinjiang make Han folks go on rants but somehow Hindooo should suck up to Pakis when Pakis send terrorists into Kashmir. How cute.
    One rule for Middle Kingdom, another rule for Hindoo.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  117. Malla says:
    @One Nobody

    It has basically transposed its feudalism onto the the world.

    Not true, European Empires destroyed feudalism in the non European World and brought modernity. Europe in the 1500s was a far more advanced and sophisticated society than the others. Non-European feudal lords most of the times exploited their populations more than European lords.

    It was a reality until the European Colonialist destroyed it and replaced with shipping lanes controlled by their piracy.

    The Europeans wanted to break the monopoly of the Islamic World + Venice in the trade in between the “Indies” and Europe. Simple as that. Basically the European trading companies could get Indian and South East Asian exotic goods to the rich European elites for far cheaper than what the Arabs, Somalis, Persians could across the land routes. Sea trade always had advantages over land trade, it is cheaper, the seas in general do not belong to any population whose leader would want baksheesh. It was difficult for land trade to compete with sea trade. Most of those Europeans were not pirates, few were, indeed European navies (starting with the Portuguese) would actually go ahead to end Asian pirates in the Indian Ocean region, which benefitted everybody, European or non European in trade. Later competition in between European powers fueled European conquests and Empires. Which is nothing weird as Empire building is very old in humans.
    Europe’s rise (which started in the 9th century AD) was inevitable, it just dragged the rest of the ungrateful World to a better quality of life.

    • Replies: @Constant Walker
  118. obam says:
    @Malla

    Modi is inferior to Edrogan . So is political view of Modi . RSS is pretty fascistand corrupt.
    Edrogan won despite the combined opposition presentingan unified candidate and won the parliamentary majority.
    Modi and RSS lost whenever there had been a combined opposition.
    Edrogan doesnt like Kurdish seperation but doesnt go out destryoing Kurdish cultural presence or removing them from the positions they enjoy nor destroys their homes or schools . Edrogan won last time despite the opposition promising destruction of Kurdish nuisance and repatriation of Syrians by force . Modi wins on those very promises at home.

    Modi doesnt have to re-run the country to the ground. It has been hovering around for a while . He is reaping the harvest in Manipur . He tries to sell the idea to the diseased Cow belt of N India that he is saving the entire world .
    Rest of the nation supports this stagnant frenzied mob of the idiots .

    • Replies: @Malla
  119. anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @showmethereal

    Iran , Afghanistan , Pakistan and India would slowly work out their differences once US’s shadow is removed . It was US’s banditry and snake- like behaviors that destroyed the plan for Peace pipe line . US forced India promising more help with nuclear program . It was actually an Indian idea going back to 90s . India was the country that sent the IAEA file to UN ,thus contributing to series of sanctions that Russia another snake went along with.
    India’s enemy is not any of these countries but China and that is economic .
    Culturally they have more in common than India has with Sri Lanka or Thailand . Pakistan is begging India to be accecpted .

    The changes have to come from within. Pakistan and Afghanistan need dismantling of fedual system and give legitimicay and protection to its minorities . Pakistan ‘s corruption make it vulnerable to any foreign power including to India . Both India and Pakistan should stay away from interfering in destabilization and take the polemic few notches down , improve people to people contact and work on economy .
    But Bangladesh -India equation shows India takes the attitude of winner take it all. This needs to change.
    India can never treat its neighbors equitably unless it learns to treat its own citizen equitable and respectfully. India has been captured by entrenched class for centuries . The pattern has to change .

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  120. @Joe Levantine

    J. L., While has Fascism has a denotation, and once applied to the specifics of Mussolini’s Italy, like a machine part that has precise dimensions and specifications, with time and use, those become eroded, commonly referred to as worn down or out.

    If the state “merges” with corporate power, how is that more precisely defined? The state directly instructs corporate like a 51% shareholder, the state sets general guidelines, or the state benignly allows the corporation to operate freely and interjects itself when actions are no to its liking. All of this implies that the state has no inherent codified and objective rights through law or covenant.

    And so, like all things imprecise, a discreet quantity [A discrete quantity can only take on certain values. For example, the number of students in a classroom can only be a positive integer and is thus a discrete quantity since the range of possible values is not continuous.] takes on continuous characteristics, and can be said to be “plastic”[soft enough to be changed into a new shape].

    Mrs. Richie, my brilliant 9th grade English teacher, taught that words are subject to their meaning mutating and warping over time, use by differing circumstances, people, intents, etc. Obviously, sometimes intentionally and vice versa.

    Thought experiment: if the “merging of state and corporate power” defines Fascism, what is the corporation? Is it state owned? In name only? Do citizens hold shares? Is it just a moniker for identification and location purposes and administration? If the state owns the corporation outright, then the economic/governmental system resembles communism, in its various forms and apparitions.

    Henry Makow:

    Our corrupt ancestors gave our national credit cards to people who wish to enslave us and destroy our way of life. Cabalist (satanist, Masonic) Jewish central bankers create the medium of exchange (money, credit) in the form of a debt to themselves, something our governments could easily do, debt-and-interest-free. Communism is the extension of Cabalist control over government credit to satanic control of every aspect of our lives — power, property, thought, behavior, movement, and expression. They used this limitless supply of our money to buy our corporations, politicians, doctors, mass media, cops, teachers, etc. in order to steal our birthright and that of our children.
    The “State” is a front for the Masonic Jewish central bankers who own its “debt.”

    In 1938, Illuminati insider Chaim Rakovsky told his NKVD interrogator that the bankers created the Communist state as a “machine of total power” unprecedented in history. In the past, due to many factors, “there was always room for individual freedom. Do you understand that those who already partially rule over nations and worldly governments have pretensions to absolute domination? Understand that this is the only thing that they have not yet reached…”The aim of Freemasonry is the triumph of Communism.”

    Most people think Communism is an ideology dedicated to championing workers and the poor. This was an incredibly successful ruse that manipulated millions.

    Behind this artifice, “Communism” is devoted to concentrating all wealth and power in the hands of the central banking cartel (the Rothschilds and their allies) by disguising it as State power.

    The central banking cartel is the ultimate monopoly. It has an almost global monopoly over government credit. Its object is to translate this into a monopoly over everything – political, cultural, economic, and spiritual. One world government = Rothschild monopoly = Communism.

    Any ideology that further concentrates wealth and power in the hands of the “State” is Communism in another guise. These ideologies — socialism, liberalism, fascism, neo-conservatism, Zionism, and feminism — are fronts for “Communism,” and are organized and funded by the central banking cartel. Current events are all designed by the central bankers to increase government power.

    One word descriptions of political, social, and economic phenomena are not precise, ambiguous, and unique enough to be used in almost any context.

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  121. @Malla

    Mocking terrorist attacks on innocent people is the stuff of psychopaths. If you weren’t so stupidly anti China you would realize that I wrote that much of the militant problem in Xinjiang was partly to blame on China itself. Helping the US to arm militants in Afghanistan backfired on China. China learned it’s lesson.

    To compare that to Kashmir is just stupid on many levels. And Uighurs in Xinjiang live much better than the people of Kashmir on the Indian side. Most of the Uighur militants that have attacked China lived in either Afghanistan – Turkey – or Syria (everywhere else they go countries deport them). That was the transit network. Thanks to the SCO it has been shut down. Xinjiang is peaceful because the overwhelming majority of Uighurs were never involved in the violence and prefer to live in an advancing country like China. The militants are flushed out. Even the Taliban has stopped giving the Uighur militants safe haven in Afghanistan – and so they attack the Taliban now while working with ISIS. If you weren’t so rabidly anti Chinese you might learn something.

    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/isis-mosque-bombing-in-afghanistan-kills-46-worshippers

    Baloch separatists attack Chinese economic plans in Pakistan. China doesn’t blame Pakistan. But you won’t get the picture of course because you prefer to be obtuse. Publicly trying to shame Pakistan is not the point of the SCO. Your type will never understand it seems. Maybe there is some hope.

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    , @Malla
  122. @anon

    Good points. To your last sentence. Well that was supposed to be the whole point of India and Pakistan joining the SCO. Russia and China formed the basis of it 30 years ago to show countries can peacefully and productively work through serious differences – and even begin to prosper together. But yeah some don’t get it yet.

  123. Emslander says:
    @H. L. M

    Thanks for a moronic reaction.

    • Disagree: Bro43rd
  124. @Malla

    Chinese are nothing but coolies, save a few of the mandarins and they’re getting too big for the nanking pantaloons they wear, whereas, I think India knows its weak position among the aggressive powers and therefore, biding its own good old time to catch up and there’s a great possibility that it will achieve parity with others where it real counts, i.e. it’s independent survival without licking a bunch of bungholes.

    As to Modi, with all his faults, not unlike She Jing Ping, loves his country more than life; it’s his religion and therefore would offer up his life for it, unlike our leaders. I believe India will be alright notwithstanding its nemesis China’s bellicosity in Tibet and elsewhere.

    • Troll: Showmethereal
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  125. KA says:
    @showmethereal

    I always have suspected the western narrative onUighur. Aran Mate and M Blumemthall have covered this area and reliably have concluded that the the lies and propaganda inform entirely the piece on Uigur.
    OneUighur actvist is a Ms Abbas. She worked for Bush jr cabinet supported Iraq war , and worked for VOA .
    Minority any where is at some disadvanatge but Uighur are much better off than minorities inPakistan,India,Mynamar or Israel or Bahrain .
    A German Christian evangelist with robust pedigree in anti -communism activities from 1980 is the sole instigator behind the role of Congress .Others have joined for a piece of silver .

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  126. @Joe Levantine

    “Human Nature” as-such, as Joe Levantine observes sensibly here, does indeed remain what it is essentially, in any circumstances that don’t bar the presence of Humans altogether. Here in Indian Country we try to be careful always to take into account the condition our Condition is in. That’s because we are very familiar with the distinctions we need to make between those manifestations of our Human Nature in the specific context of “civilization” for-example, which is a form of captivity, and those coming naturally to us as Free Wild members of the Free Wild LivingLoving Arrangement of Earth and Sky.

    We have seen clearly that Humans, like All Our Relations here, do not thrive as domesticated Animals or any Kind. That is so despite all the “comforts” and “conveniences” enticing Peoples into that organically degraded condition and keeping them there. These “self”-afflicted captives invariably tend to over-compensate for their loss of our Natural Organic Form and Function by attacking the Living Loving Arrangement violently, trying to force it to provide what they want, no longer being given freely what we need because of their induced alienation and its accompanying chronic fear. Since Humanity as-such functions as a component of The LivingLoving Arrangement’s natural immune system, its more-or-less severe organic dysfunction shows-up as auto-immune disease.

    The Whole LovingLoving Arrangement naturally responds to this condition with whatever resources and in whatever ways will work best to alleviate it. Ultimately this can come down to the complete purging from the LivingLoving Arrangement of anything and everything disruptive of our Harmony and Balance….if less drastic responses prove insufficient to the need.

    This has happened already here several times over the ages, as succeeding outbreaks of the Planet-wasting “civilization” disease have run their course. Our extensive lived experience with these processes lead some among us surviving Free Wild Peoples of every Kind here to expect another such “detox” to occur imminently. In-fact many see it being already well-along right now.

    What this means for those of our domesticated Human Relations unable or unwilling to get over the organically crippling sickness that is their very own too-precious “self” seems pretty obvious to us here in Indian Country. The last-ditch attempt to “reset” the collapsing system, which is the subject of this article and others by Pepe Escobar, coming as it does already deep once again into the disease’s own terminal stage, goes dead against the ongoing purging process itself. So however it is pursued and with whatever intentions, there will be no relief for what ails us coming from it. In-fact, it is much more likely only to speed-up and intensify what we know as Earth’s Purification Ceremony.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  127. @One Nobody

    One Nobody notes astutely that pretty much every conceivable variation of “government” has long-since had at-least a trial run somewhere at some time, over the multi-millennial course of the “civilization” disease process here in the Free Wild LivingLoving Arrangement of Earth and Sky. Of-course to be recognizable at-all as a system of “government,” there has to be present in it at-least the bare minimum of characteristics and operations recognized and accepted by potentially subject populations as being quintessentially governmental in nature.

    Maybe the single most necessary and essential one among these common features is the “legitimization” of the use of force, including lethal force, by “government” itself, as the bottom-line means-and-methods for compelling obedience to whatever is taken to be “law” by whatever process such “law”is instituted. In-fact, any and every operation of any governmental apparatus of whatever shape and configuration, depends finally for its effectiveness on that same monopoly of force. Ultimately the “legitimized” use of force is itself all there really is to “government”….in a nut’sHell. The “consent-of-the-governed” be-damned. Its attempted withdrawal is always seen by “government” operatives as “insurrection” and “rebellion” and is “unlawful” by-definition.

    So regardless of the appliances and appurtenances attached to a “government” apparatus, the actual Day-to-Day effects of its operations upon the lives of its subject-citizens will of-necessity be determined entirely by the motives and methods of its operators….even if these are considered in the abstract to be ideally those same subject-citizens themselves. The thing is what it does, and does what it is. The maybe harsher effects of that can be cushioned somewhat by common consent and agreement. The underlying nature of the thing, though, remains always the same.

    It’s underlying rational does, too. Stripped of all its feel-good niceties, the rule of fear holds that might makes right. Our domesticated Human Relations of-course resent like Hell that they are under-The Gun like that, but are generally terrified of what they’re told will happen to them if they don’t go along with it.

    Us surviving Free Wild Peoples have learned all this about “government” mostly the-hard-way, as well. That is how come we have for many many Generations now consciously and conscientiously refrained from setting-up any such thing here in Indian Country. We know beyond any shadow of any doubt that we are all much better People for that, too. So we will be keeping happily to it as The Tao, The Way of our Kind here in the LivingLoving Arrangement of Earth and Sky.

  128. @Malla

    By-definition (anybody can look it up), calling somebody “sophisticated” like Malla does 16th Century European “society” here, is not really complimentary at-all. The Greeks had that figured-out quite awhile back. “Modern” domesticated people, for all of their own supposed sophistication, are still way behind the curve on that one.

  129. Anon001 says:
    @1jonny

    Well, he believes that Russia and China are both in on the global governance thing. I don’t see where he gives evidence.

    IMO, Yuri is wrong about China as I wrote in my comment you replied to. Here it is again: The only thing I do not agree with Yuri is regarding China, which is economic and manufacturing super-power. IMO, globalists do not control China, and that’s their main problem at the moment.

    Now, evidence/proof for Putin?

    He’s a globalist recruit, i.e. Schwab’s Young Global Leader (TM) from the 90s, as per Schwab’s direct public admission [1][2]. Also, Putin was introduced to Kissinger by Primakov [3][4]. He did have a fallout with them for some reason around 2019, but NWO/WEF/WHO, etc. is still what he believes in – i.e. he is moving Russia towards that on his own, with very few exceptions.

    Here’s Klaus Schwab in 2017 speaking of Putin and Angela [2] as, at the time, WEF’s Young Global Leaders (i.e. euphemism for recruits of course), as well as one younger one, Justin Trudeau (Canada’s PM). He mentioned Putin and Angela again in 2019, in the same context, along with Tony Blair [1].

    [1] Klaus Schwab in 2019 speaks of Putin (1952), Tony Blair (1953), and Angela Merkel (1954) as his Young Global Leaders back in the 90s – fast forward to 1:14


    Video Link

    [2] “So we penetrate the cabinets”, Klaus Schwab in 2017 … | Twitter

    [3] What the West gets wrong about Putin
    https://unherd.com/2022/01/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-putin/

    Excerpt: Eventually, Primakov introduced Kissinger to Putin, and they became close. That both Primakov and Kissinger took time to coach Putin on geopolitics and geosecurity was a clear demonstration that they saw in him the characteristics of a powerful leader.

    Excerpt: In 1999, Vladimir Putin suddenly sprang from bureaucratic obscurity to the office of Prime Minister. When, a few months later, Yeltsin unexpectedly resigned and Putin was voted in as President, governments around the world were taken by surprise yet again. How could this unknown figure have amassed national voter support with so little media attention?

    [4] Photo: Putin with his mentor/teacher and a war-criminal Kissinger

    Regards, Anon001 – Comments Archive @ The Unz Review
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Anon001

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  130. How much poverty is created by the banking eliltes? Credit creation ex nihilo by them is the great scam supporting our neofeudalism: Understand the fraudulent banking system once and for all, which creates credit OUT OF THIN AIR and charges you fifty-plus years of interest flowing to the puppetmasters! Please go to http://www.LetJusticePrevailThoughTheHeavensFall.com and scroll down to read a proposed Constitutional Amendment wresting control of our corrupt financial system from the Vanquards and the Blackrocks of the world, the Ashkhenazim financier class in general!!!! Contravening the unfolding future—-your childrens’ depraved and enslaved world—depends on your understanding this scam.

  131. @Constant Walker

    I could not settle just for the thanks button. You are bringing into the commentariat a much needed philosophical dimension that goes way beyond the transactional discourse that is prevalent, with all my deep appreciation and respect of many commentators and their invaluable contribution.

    As someone who was brought up on Abrahamic religions, it sure makes a big difference to me getting the spiritual view from Indian Country. Your eloquence is the icing on the cake.

    I look forward to reading more of your posts.

    Many thanks.

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  132. The doublespeak from Washington is about losing control. China is a threat to the Bretton Woods system and disastrous neoliberal policies thereof. The country’s economic rise also contradicts the development model recommended by the World Bank.

    They want to alienate China from its neighbors and trading partners through “Halt the Hun” propaganda. Elsewhere, the American-authorized stance members of the European Union have adopted with respect to Russia has become an exercise in self-harm.

    Iran is constantly in the news while the Shimon Peres Negev Nuclear Research Center near Dimona is ignored. Mordechai Vanunu revealed details of the facility. A Middle East without weapons of mass destruction is the way to go.

  133. @Poupon Marx

    Totally agree with your post.

    But since words convey different meanings overtime, like the word Camel back in the sixties mostly made people think of cigarettes, we have to avoid going into the slippery slope of semantic evaluation.

    Here, in support of Mussolini’s description, I shall state two important facts:

    The swinging door policy from the private to the public sector which lets any technocrat shift from one sector to the other without any consideration to conflict of interest. This effectively makes for one door, the corporate door. Hence the U.S. government is controlled by narrow corporate interest, unlike what was in Germany and Italy under the powerful leadership of Hitler and Mussolini where the ultimate leader had the last word.

    The fact that 90% of corporate shares are owned by the top 10% tier of the American society, and the top 1% owning more than 90% of the 90%.

    To expand on your quotation about the central bank, I will quote this most enlightening little text by Michail Bakunin, the aristocratic revolutionary whose extremely prescient opinion has been pretty much pushed into the memory hole:

    “Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you can imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it.
    Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem strange. What could there be in common between communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state centralization, and where this exists there must inevitably exist a state central bank, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish nation, which speculates upon the labor of the people, will always find the means for its existence.
    In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime, under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but of political differences as well – this Jewish world is today largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschild. I am sure that, on the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand, women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work and live at the beat of the drum; the privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the national banks.”
    —Mikhail Bakunin, Etude sur les juifs allemands, 1869

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  134. @KA

    Yes. Indeed you are a sensible person. Though what makes US propaganda so effective is the use of half truth. For instance – there were actual “camps”. That is true. What is false is how the US characterized it. For instance they took a picture of an actual special prison for Uighur militants and then claimed that’s how the camps were. Not the same in any form at all. The camps were indeed for people connected to the militants – but again it was a small minority. So even the US and Zenz only claimed it was 10 percent of the Uighurs. The people absolutely were taught why militant Islam was wrong. Yes the women were taught skills so they could either start a business or get a job. They were taught to learn Mandarin. They were taught national laws. They were taught national history. Why? Because like other autonomous regions of China those things were not mandatory. But in regions like Hong Kong and Xinjiang the hammer has come down. But not in sending in troops to kill and destroy. So while some western sensibilities may be offended – the entire Muslim world was just fine with it. The US and Zenz twisted everything to say they banned the language and banned religion and forced labor upon women etc etc. Complete mis characterizations…. But it is effective. Malla brought up Kashmir. Yes as you noted Uighurs live much better than the people of Kashmir. Supposed Christian Zenz has done not studies. Of course not.

    But yeah one of the main points of the SCO was to stamp out all militant groups in the region after the US went into Afghanistan. That’s why we see Iran and Pakistan working to try to stamp out the Baloch separatists that plague both countries. China was able to get intelligence on the transits of the Uighur militants movements with help of the rest of the SCO countries. I’m sure Russia got the same with some of the rebel Chechens.

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  135. @Joe Levantine

    “…the top 1% owning more than 90% of the 90%.

    Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street, et al. The purpose is to dominate the Board of Directors.

    I agree totally with what you wrote. My only issue is the descriptive term “Fascism”. Whether clever manipulators like Larry Fink, Mike Bloomberg, George Soros, etc, etc hold the power of corporate, thus political, thus governmental sway and influence is splitting hairs.

    As in two World Wars, The Vietnam War, and-if Boobus Americanus was informed through spoon feeding-the general population would be against the Russian-Ukraine War.

    Let’s be more precise: authoritarian, dictatorial, totalitarian are much more useful, clear, and universal in meaning. Fascism will forever be referenced back-partially or wholly-to Mussolini’s brand. That’s why it should be avoided.

    Marx was commissioned and supported by Friedrich Engels, who presumably was commissioned by Rothchild and his strategists.

    I really appreciate your thoughtful and in depth comment.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
  136. @Aleatorius

    bindus are the biggest coolies to white men yoy got raped by the b shits and you were carrying them around in your palanquins for hundreds of years your cuntry still has ricksha wallahs to this day,bindusthan is a true bunghole , your economy depends on cheap chinese imports, if china were to ban exports to your country it would be interesting to see how fast the tea seller woukld go to the great yellow emperor with hat in hand begging for paisas.

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  137. @Joe Levantine

    Thank you for the kind and encouraging words. This Old Man is sure no “philosopher,” though. Neither is there anything distinctively “spiritual” about what’s offered here from the perspective of Free Wild Peoples in Indian Country. We have never found any actual dividing-line between “physical” and “spiritual”….it is All One as near as we can tell.

    So these observations are nothing more nor less than descriptions, using whatever “modern” English words that might most accurately convey what is after-all right in everyday plain sight….for anybody with “the stomach” for a clear-eyed look at it. That’s really all this Old Indian has got to offer. We’ll see whether and for how long it has any receivers.

    Thanks again.

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  138. KA says:
    @Showmethereal

    Religion will continue play havoc . When you have billions of muslims,billions of Hindus ,Billions of Christians and enough aspiratints with oratory power,personal grievances, and oportuties/ desires to stake out claims to self-apointed leaderships, the problems of widespread agitation,violence, sectaraniasm and marginalization of ‘ non adherents’ are a certainty .
    Unfortunately as far Islam is concerned it was Eishenhower admiistration that introduced the abuse of
    religion in American foreign policies.
    It was one of the many examples of weaponization.
    Religious card was played against Syrian nationalism . Long before that in 1913-1920 Britian played the same card in S Arabia (which did not exist then ).
    A vested interest is established and an assembly line is created churning out new wannabe . Violence as a policy once starts,is difficult to stop or get rid of.
    There will always be muslim to try this path for personal gain.
    Other religions are producing their die hards and radicals and often big family of uneducated members .
    Recent Sweden koranburning shows how a rejected loser can stay in limelight after failing to win endorsement and leadership in his home country from his own Iraqi Chaldean community .
    A person with his back ground should have raised more concerns than just about freedom of expression. I wont be surprised to learn that te same Swedish system is expressing pain at non existent wound of Uighur .

    Ughur experince is kind of social engineering for China.
    As complexity evolves and threat mutates , a collison course is inevitable. But China doesnt try to subdue or destroy culture or forbid freedom of movemnet or personal life style .
    It doesnt go out and bomb or use F16 against hapless unared or autisic kid or pour depleted uranium on wedding vanues or funerals to change their behaviors . Neither it uses state machineray to bulldoze and turn people homeless with no access to basic needs. Neither China has burnt down century- old libraries or gutted down masjids . Muslim in the state of Bihar were not that lucky . Nor were Palestinians .
    Though some kind of social engineeringis taking place there but with an eye to golden fictional past .

    Uighur malady isnt about them , it is about how to harness them to further US UK interests . Afghanistan recap wont be telegraphed among muslim anymore .

    Yemeni Houthi reached the conclusion that US create ISIS and Al Quiada to attack foreign and domestic coutries that then gets US self-invited to Yemen andAfghanistan.
    Part of the aim of the sanctionis same – weaken its security and police forceandarm force,degrade the civic society Then attack the country.

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  139. 1jonny says:
    @Anon001

    Thanks for the Unherd link! I’m going to study up on Putin some more.

    • Replies: @Anon001
  140. Anon001 says:

    Thanks for the Unherd link! I’m going to study up on Putin some more.

    Not a problem – glad you found it useful.

    Here are some good blogs by people that know a lot about Russia [1][2] + one article [3] + one twitter [4]. That should get you red-pilled and down the rabbit whole.

    [1] Articles Archive | Rolo Slavskiy / Slavsky | Substack
    https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/archive?sort=new

    [2] Articles Archive | Riley Waggaman / Edward Slavsquat | Substack
    https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/archive?sort=new

    [3] Resetting Without Schwab: Russia & the Fourth Industrial Revolution
    ( Riley Waggaman aka Edward Slavsquat | Whitney Webb | Unlimited Hangout )
    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/07/investigative-reports/resetting-without-schwab-russia-the-fourth-industrial-revolution/

    [4] Nikola Mikovic (@nikola_mikovic) | Twitter

    Regards, Anon001 – Comments Archive @ The Unz Review
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Anon001

  141. @KA

    Agreed (and I myself am a person of faith). But yeah again it was never the majority of Uighurs. In fact during the Chinese civil war you had Uighurs on the side of the CPC and those that weren’t (many of the “chiefs” fled to places like Saudi Arabia). It was never all or nothing like the west portrays. Same with Tibet actually…. But a good example of Islam in China is most westerners don’t know that the Uighurs are not the largest group of Muslims in China. That is the Hui people. For years China has had business conferences specifically for Muslim countries to visit China. They don’t have them in Uighur communities – but in Hui communities. The Hui are simply more business oriented and their areas were more “up to date”. So the Muslim delegations could got to China and have all of their religious needs catered to while they are at the conferences. So called Uighur supporters have no clue about that. An example of the respect the Hui get is some years back (10 or so I believe) a large mosque was to be demolished as having been built without proper permits. Hundreds if not Thousands of Hui came out and PEACEFULLY protested the decision. The higher ups got wind and told the local authorities to let the mosque stay – and it did. Won’t see that in western news.
    I mean even when the leader of Iran visited Beijing the other day – he posted pictures of himself at a prayer service at a mosque in Beijing. Of course that was never shown in the west. But the Muslim world of course knows.

  142. I wonder why the BRICS countries are still supporting the UN?

    BRICS are often depicted as in opposition to Western domination. However, they are working to implement Agenda 2030 with the same enthusiasm as in the West.

    One just has to look a vaccines and Renewable’s as examples and it’s clear.

  143. @kicktheroos

    Another coolie mistaking the rise of China to some innate intellect and ability, whereas, the sepoys always knew the greatness of the white race. India needn’t worry that chinaman won’t sell the goods to it because we’ll build our factories there and deprive the yellow coolies livehood. And you forget, you coolies were slaves to our opium trade, which is worse than being a chaiwallah. Even today, your women love us more than they love you… we’ll breed the low-class-ness out of you yet. Whites are the solution!

    • Troll: Showmethereal
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  144. @mulga mumblebrain

    “Here in Austfailia, and elsewhere that Indians are settling in the Anglosphere …”

    That assertion tells me that you’re not one of us but a chinaman pretending to be an Aussie … a word to the wise, India & Indians are the least of our problems (we know because we’re there for two hundred years) but it’s China and its yellow coolies are the urgent problem. Trump will take care of it!

  145. anon[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @Aleatorius

    But,but ,but– Hindus do worship moneky, Trump and at one time worshipped Queen Victoria. They were also very enamoured of Hitler and Nazi’s Aryanism .
    They worship power.
    White 2 centuries ago told Hindus- Hey you are Aryans . That broke any narional resistance it had to British . A pat on the back and they felt empowered. With that power and feeling ,the top Hindus with English vocabulary ,outfit,and healthy physiques went to the rest of the Hindus and secured a position of control .Before the British or Mughal this control over the rest of the Hindus came from religious book and the philoshopical understanding of the creation and calssification of the Hindus along the caste lines.
    Now something else power that control. that something comes from secular world of finances , top positions abroad, and from techinal-medical- administrative controls at home. Media is also owned by same class.

    From India ,Buddhism travelled to China Nepal Bhutan but Hinduism never .Even in Nepal it was imposed. Hinduism did not find a good eager stupid host even in Nepal.
    Thats what the RSS-BJP want when they declare of future AKHAND BHATAT- Eretz India- Enlarged India .They want the resident of Sri Lanka Mynamar Afghanistan Pakistan and Bangaldesh become lower caste Hindus accecpting the upper echelon’s suzerainty and dispensation.
    If they could,they would impose that strucutural control on China and US.

    Even Vivekanada wanted to suck up while he was here in USA trying his best to prove that Hinudism was a monotheistic religion. He

  146. Malla says:
    @showmethereal

    Mocking terrorist attacks on innocent people is the stuff of psychopaths.

    My apologies if that is the false impression, I have given you. Supporting a terrorist state like Pakistan is ……
    My main point is as China “supposedly” suffered from Islamic terrorism, so did India for decades.

    so stupidly anti China
    so rabidly anti Chinese

    Clearly, a stupid and false allegation. I am not anti-China. It is just that China can be criticized. Woooo. yeah, hard to believe, but China like anything else, can be criticized. Hard for arrogant Middle Kingdom + save face mentality people to grasp.

    overwhelming majority of Uighurs were never involved in the violence and prefer to live in an advancing country like China.

    Sure, I will believe that. Selling freedom for money, not noble.

    Publicly trying to shame Pakistan is not the point of the SCO.

    No it is not, but it is allowed. One has to understand the anger of 1.4 billion Indians, the most populated country on Earth for constant terrorist attacks on their nation, to understand, where this is coming from.

    Your type will never understand it seems.

    “Your type”? What does this even mean. Sadly nations can be slow in understanding and learning, One good example. As India’s foreign minister Mr. Jaishankar ( ery popular among the 1.4 billion Indian masses) bluntly told his Chinese diplomatic guests, that improvement of Indo-China relations is purely subject to the good behaviour of China over a period of time. Simple As. I hope “their kind” can understand and make amends. Win-Win for everybody.

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    , @showmethereal
  147. Malla says:
    @obam

    Modi is inferior to Edrogan . So is political view of Modi .

    How so?

    RSS is pretty fascistand corrupt.

    LOL, you think Erdogand’s AK Party is not? It is a mafia which runs protection rackets. As far as corruption, LOL, nearly each and every political power in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh has been corrupt, the only exception was the British Raj. Except that corruption reigned supreme in pre-British Empire and post-British Empire governments.

    Edrogan won despite the combined opposition presentingan unified candidate and won the parliamentary majority.

    Same for Modi.

    Modi and RSS lost whenever there had been a combined opposition.

    At the National level? When?

    Edrogan doesnt like Kurdish seperation but doesnt go out destryoing Kurdish cultural presence or removing them from the positions they enjoy nor destroys their homes or schools .

    Oh really???
    https://dckurd.org/2022/04/28/erdogan-wars-on-kurds/
    Erdogan launches new ethnic cleansing campaign against the Kurds by Sierwan Najmaldin Karim
    Amidst the chaos in the world, Turkey’s double game is rewarding to commit more atrocities against Kurds in Syria and Iraq.

    Modi doesnt have to re-run the country to the ground. It has been hovering around for a while .

    Well I do agree that Turkey has a higher standard of living and per capita income than India but India is nowhere hovering over the ground, Indeed while the Turkish economy has totally screwed up thanks to Erdogand’s (and his equally stupid son-in-law) incompetence, India is actually doing far better than most economies in the World right now, inspite of Modi’s screwups like demonetization and GST (Goods and Services Tax) regime.

    Both, the rise of Erdogan and Modi shows the failure of secularism & sensible positive modernisation in both Turkey and India respectively and the people’s desire for Thug Sultans (who ends up screwing up the people but the people take it like a bitch like a whore takes it from pimp). Both have their support among the low IQ backward Muslim and Hindu masses respectively whose mentality remained feudal inspite of modernisation. Both Erdogand and Modi hate intelligent sophisticated people (since they are both of village thug mentality) but they need sophisticated intelligent people to run a modern state. Both tried putting their people in Universities to push extreme nationalism and religious backwardness. Both dream of glorious past and Empire, Ottoman Empire and Akhand Bharat respectively.

  148. Malla says:
    @anon

    But,but ,but– Hindus do worship moneky, Trump and at one time worshipped Queen Victoria.

    This has nothing to with power, you stupid monkey. Indians admire Trump and Hitler because they are seen as straight talking leaders, leaders who say things as it is. What Indians hate are pussy politicians who talk sweet shit and then backstab.
    Secondly, Trump was good for India, so why should Indians not support Trump?
    Queen Victoria? She was worshiped by some few people in one region of India, Hindus believe that God can manifest in many things. From a stone to Queen Victoria.

    White 2 centuries ago told Hindus- Hey you are Aryans . That broke any narional resistance it had to British .

    That is the dumbest bullshit I have ever heard. The British conquered India, fair and square. No need of telling about Aryan past. Scholars came to a conclusion based on linguistics and mythological studies about a common ancestor from Central Asia. Genetics later proved them correct. It had very little to do with politics.

    Even Vivekanada wanted to suck up while he was here in USA trying his best to prove that Hinudism was a monotheistic religion.

    There was no need to suck up to no White man. Hinduism is monoism, that is all the Gods are manifests of Akhand Brahman. This was written in Hindus texts before Mohammed was even born, Vivekananda went to Chicago to counter Pandita Ramabai, lest she tell India loving Whites the nasty sides of Hinduism. Pandita Ramabai was a Brahmin social reformer lady who converted to Christianity. Westerners have always admired and glorified Indian philosophy (the Germans more so) and have been Indophiles to a large extent, looking at India as this ancient civilization full of mysteries. There were negative stereotypes too, but there was this positive stereotype as well, which benefited us. But Pundita Ramabai was spilling the beans to the naïve Whitey (who have a tendency to hype up foreign cultures like Islamic, Indian, Chinese etc…), so Vivekananda had to go to speak high philosophy to keep Whitey still admiring India. Muzzies and Chinks do the same too, fool naïve Whitey.
    And that conference in Chicago was linked to the Rockefellers, they were feelers to build up a future One World Religion when One World Government comes.

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  149. Malla says:
    @anon

    With that power and feeling ,the top Hindus with English vocabulary ,outfit,and healthy physiques….the caste lines.

    Jabberings of a deranged but extremely cunning Muzzie. The Indian Independence Movement was primarily a Hindu movement. Most Muslism were sucking British dick and telling their British massas to stay. Why? Many reasons. Muslims were afraid that if the British left, the Hindu majority would want revenge for centuries of Islamic rape, loot, destruction, slavery on India. They wanted British massas to save their Muslim bithc from big bad Hindooo. Because centuries ago, they never relaised that such a state of affairs would come, where they will be a minority with no military power over Hindus, their own historians write with glee centuries ago about their exploits of killing, enslaving, raping scores of hapless idol worshiping Hindus. But during the mutiny in 1857, the cunning Brahmins played a trick in setting Muslims against British, they knew one side will fold and after the mutiny to convince the British that the whole affair was a Muslim conspiracy which was true, but only half true, as they skillfully hid the Hindu side in that mutiny. There was a secret letter from Mangal Pandey, the Brahmin revolutionary to the Brahmin Peshwa. heheh. So the British angry with what had just happened permanently destroyed Islamic military power in India,
    And soon we had the modern state, in which intelligent government servants ruled and dumb low IQ muslims could not compete in the Imperial services exams of the Empire against the more smarter and studious upper caste Hindus. That is why the Muslims were scared shit that the Hindus in power will take revenge and were begging to the British to stay. the Islamic Ulema even called the British Empire ‘Halal’ because British are people of the Book, Christians, Anglicans and Presbyterians. But muzzies would not live under Hindu idol worshippers, even though India was to be secular. But when the Jews in Britain (Montagu!!!) were slowly dissolving and winding down the British Indian Empire since the 20s, the Muslims screamed for Pakistan.
    The anti-British freedom struggle was at its core an upper caste Hindu (helped by jew) project.

  150. Malla says:
    @anon

    Check this out, it was the Muslims who were whoring themselves to the British, they wanted to be the favourite concubine bitch of the British massa out of fear for Hindu seeking revenge for Islamic genocide and rape of Ancient Indian civilization. They wanted their British massa to save them from Hindu.

    Most of those nationalist revolutionaries who fired at British officers, bombed British officials, all those freedom fighters were influenced by Hindutva fascism. Get that in your head.
    As Sir valentine Chirol wrote in his book “Indian Unrest”
    The part played by Brahmanism in Indian unrest (against the British Empire) is far more conspicuous in some parts of India than in others, and for reasons which are generally not far to seek. Wherever it has been most active, it connotes perhaps more than anything else the reactionary side of that unrest. Though there have been and still are many enlightened Brahmans who have cordially responded to the best influences of Western education, and have worked with admirable zeal and courage to bridge the gulf between Indian and European civilization, Brahmanism as a system represents the antipodes of all that British rule must stand for in India, and Brahmanism has from times immemorial dominated Hindu society—dominated it, according to the Hindu Nationalists, for its salvation. “If,” writes one of them (Hindu fascist), “Mother India, though reduced to a mere skeleton by the oppression of alien rulers (Islamic and European) during hundreds of years, still preserves her vitality, it is because the Brahmans have never relaxed in their devotion to her. She has witnessed political and social revolutions. Famines and pestilence have shorn her of her splendour. But the Brahmans have stood by her through all the vicissitudes of fortune. It is they who raised her to the highest pinnacle of glory, and it is they whose ministrations still keep up the drooping spirits of her children.”

    The Muslims on the other hand were writing love letters to the British because the were afraid that Hindus would take revenge for the humiliation of 800 years of Islamic “rape and plunder”. Even Ambedkar (who authored the Indian Constitution and was anti-Hindutva Dalit leader) had this opinion. The Muslims were hiding behind the British tailcoat to save them from Hindus who wanted revenge for 800 years of rape and plunder. Muslim writing letters to Secretary of State Montagu, the Jew, who wanted to weaken British Empire in India before destroying it as per Jew plans. Muslims begging Jew to not weaken British control over the Indian Empire.
    Association to Safeguard the Muslim Interests in the Province of Bihar and Orissa:[3]
    [3. Addresses Presented in India to His Excellency the Viceroy and the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for India, p. 40.]
    We cannot deprecate too strongly the want of foresight displayed by some of our co-religionists in endorsing in their entirety, the views and claims of the Congress. Already there is strong tendency visible in certain quarters to oppress and terrorise the Musalmans and ignore…their interests. The guiding principle of the English rule up to now has always been to administer the affairs of Indian Empire with impartiality in the presence of diverse religions and nationalities of which it is composed…

    The South India Islamia League[4] presented a plea in which they reminded Mr. Montagu that, being a minority community, they
    …realise the value of the British Government in holding the scales even between different classes in this country…[and] are opposed to any scheme of political reconstruction which tends to undermine the authority of British Government in India,
    but are strongly in favour of gradual progressive political development.

    The Muttialpet Muslim Anjuman, a Muhammadan educational society of Madras, implored Mr. Montagu to stay his reforming hand:[5]
    [5. Ibid., p. 63.]
    “The Britisher alone can hold the scales even between the various communities. Whenever our interests collide with those of other communities, it is to him we look up as the embodiment of justice and fair play. Whatever reforms may be introduced, we trust that nothing will be done to undermine the authority of the British Government in India.”

    Wow, such love letters to the British authority by Muslims. Hindu Fascists are not sepoys you stupid monkey, it were the Hindu fascists who were the British Raj’s main enemy. The Muslims were the sepoys writing love letters to the British and pleading the Brits to save them from the Hindus who wanted revenge for all that rape and plunder of 800 years of foreign Muslim rule over India.

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  151. d dan says:
    @Malla

    “overwhelming majority of Uighurs … prefer to live in an advancing country like China.” — showmethereal

    “Selling freedom for money, not noble.” — Malla

    What the fuck. When Uighurs prefer to live in China, it is “selling freedom for money, not noble.” You are just an arrogant house nigger who have no problem insulting the 12 millions peace-loving Uighurs to fit your anti-China mentality.

    “I am not anti-China.” — Malla

    You are. The above example shows that. No need to show me your other China-“friendly” comments.

    • Replies: @Aleatorius
    , @Malla
  152. @anon

    Chinese worship a monkey-god as well but it’s neither here nor there. As to the Aryans having come to India is absolutely clear historically and it’s borne out by the similarities in the Latin and Sanskrit languages. The only thing that we’ve in common with the Chinese is the desire to make a buck at all cost irrespective of consequences. I am no scholar of religions but to me Buddhism was clearly an attempt at the reformation of hierarchical Hinduism because being an esoteric creed it wasn’t for everyone but for those highly developed Brahmin/white. Nevertheless, the new creed failed in India but throve in China simply due to the fact Chinese have never clearly understood the idea of God as it’s understood in India. You may have a lots of gods and goddesses but eventually it’s one entity in the end not unlike the Western creeds. Buddhism is all about perfection of man and a god plays no part in its achievement. Let’s not compare apples to Oranges, please!

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  153. @d dan

    “What the fuck. When Uighurs prefer to live in China, it is “selling freedom for money, not noble.” You are just an arrogant house nigger who have no problem insulting the 12 millions peace-loving Uighurs to fit your anti-China mentality.”

    Without your corrosive language, let me just say that a people who worship Allah would not, I repeat, would not want to live and work with those are godless and whose dietary practices are unclean and the Han people are guilty of both. For US in the West, China isn’t a real partner but a commercial opportunity which seems to have gone wrong but very soon it will be amended then we shall see how you people fare.

    • Replies: @d dan
    , @showmethereal
  154. d dan says:
    @Aleatorius

    “people who worship Allah would not, I repeat, would not want to live and work with those are godless and whose dietary practices are unclean”

    Billions of “people who worship Allah” have proved you wrong.

    “dietary practices are unclean and the Han people are guilty of both”

    And you are guilty of the loser white racism and supremacism – which is common among many commenters in this site.

  155. Obam says:

    “ Vivekananda, who represented Hinduism at the Parliament of the World’s Religions in Chicago in 1893, took pains to depict his faith as monotheistic, in contrast to the stereotypes of its followers as “heathen” polytheists.

    The polytheism hurdle is the first thing that has to be addressed” for many American Christian audiences, Mr. Altman said. He sees Mr. Ramaswamy’s pitch against “wokeism” as a way to counter stereotypes associating Hinduism with hippies, yoga and vegetarianism.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/09/us/vivek-ramaswamy-hindu-republican-christianj.html?

    Fluidity and elasticity of Hinduism extends to democracy , freedom of expression and social justice .

    If it suits the “now” – it’s great . If it makes easier to get accepted , turn around and say things that’s opposite to what were said ,believed or practiced yesterday .

    • Replies: @Malla
  156. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    RSS and its outfits Hindu Mahasbaha had been agitating against independence movement of India from 1930 . Savarkar’s betrayl killed a good many numebr of freedom figters .
    Muslim worked with Hindus repeatedly against British starting from Sepoy Rebellion to movemnets under Congress and NS Bose.
    Royal figures ofHindus and Muslim did not advoacte strongly for indepednece .
    Independece was not even in the mind of Congress untl late in WW2 . Nehru in late 1930s was still thinking of possible independnce sometimes around 1970.
    Given the periodic beytayls of Ghandhi to Indian workers ,peasants and labor class and cozying uptoBritainin WW1 and introduing religion in politics, Muslim figured it out that they couldnt trust Indian Hindu run political movements .Still a lot of muslim or at least majority supported Congress until 1938 fully .

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  157. Malla says:
    @anon

    More bullshit and cunning. You make a false charge about Hindus being house niggas of British and when I decisively prove that it were the Muslims who were the house niggas of the British, you write some gibberish to muddy the waters. Very cunning.

    RSS and its outfits Hindu Mahasbaha had been agitating against independence movement of India from 1930 .

    Rubbish. Before 1947, the RSS kept itself strictly a social organization. The RSS was formed in response to the Mophla Massacre of Hindus by Muslims. This was a result of the dumb Ottoman Empire’s interference in British India during WW1, the Khalifat movement. So that more British military resources would be used up to keep peace in the Indian Empire and thus the Ottoman Empire would get some respite from the British Empire. But a anti-British movement soon turned into a anti-Hindu massacre. The RSS was formed exactly in response to that massacre. The RSS decided to strictly remain a social organization. It became a political organization only after 1947, that too after enormous opposition from the old guard.

    Savarkar’s betrayl killed a good many numebr of freedom figters .

    Like who?

    Muslim worked with Hindus repeatedly against British starting from Sepoy Rebellion to movemnets under Congress and NS Bose.

    Yes, some Muslims did but Muslims as a population in general were pro-British, they were sucking British massa’s di”k to save them from Hindu. When by 1920s-30s, as the civil services got more Indianised (and thus dominated by more intelligent upper caste Hindus), and it seemed that India was slowly moving sway from the Empire (Jews and Brahmins collude to end British Indian Empire), the Muslims intensified screaming for Pakistan.

    Royal figures ofHindus and Muslim did not advoacte strongly for indepednece .

    Why would they? They looked at the Congress as trouble makers.

    Independece was not even in the mind of Congress untl late in WW2

    More gas fartings. The aim of the Indian National Congress was dominion status like what Australia, New-Zealand, Canada etc…got. As India had supported the Empire in WW1, that is what the Congress had expected. The British denied dominion status to India EXACTLY to protect minorities like Muslims and lower caste Hindus from upper caste Hindu domination in the civil services. Both Muslims and lower caste Hindus wanted British civil servants who were seen as fair as against upper caste Hindu civil services.

    The Muhammadans of the Bombay Presidency presented an anxious appeal which read in part:[6]

    [Addresses Presented in India to His Excellency the Viceroy and the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for India, London, 1918, pp. 78-9.]
    It is freely asserted that in no distant future the English bureaucracy will disappear and an Indian majority in the Councils will take its place. Whatever may have been the defects of that much abused bureaucracy in the past, it must be admitted that it has had one redeeming merit, viz., that of holding the balance even as between the two principal communities in India, and thus protecting the weak against the strong.
    The solemn verdict of the Ulema of Madras, now laid before the British Secretary of State for India, was expressed in three closely similar dicta, one of which follows:[Addresses Presented ïn India to His Excellency the Viceroy and the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for India, pp. 63-4.]
    “Verily, Polytheists are unclean.” In case the British Government were to hand over the administration, as desired by the Hindus, it would be contrary to the Sacred Law of Musulmans to live under them, Polytheists.”

    Exactly, as desired by the Hindus, even the Ulema knew that the freedom struggle was predominantly a Hindu movement.
    Anyways, it was because the British denied India Dominion status (to protect Muslims, other minorities and lower caste Hindus from upper caste domination), that the Congress now started agitating from ‘Sampurna Swaraj’ or ‘Complete Independence’.

    Muslim figured it out that they couldnt trust Indian Hindu run political movements

    Due to periodical betrayal by Muslims, lack of interest in freedom struggle, cozying up to fellow Abrahamic religion folks, the Christian British as well as supporting exotic foreign kings like Ottoman Emperor, convinced Hindus that Muslims are natural traitors to India, to the motherland and cannot be trusted to protect national interest.

  158. Malla says:
    @Obam

    If it suits the “now” – it’s great . If it makes easier to get accepted , turn around and say things that’s opposite to what were said ,believed or practiced yesterday .

    This is true for Muslims too. Muslims built an alliance with the Western left, the same Western left which promoted promiscuity, feminism, collapse in family values in the past. Even though these are against Islamic values, Muslims built an alliance with the Western left because it suited the Muslims, as the Western leftist baizuos were seen as traitors to Western nations and thus allies. Muslims are not some noble, honest people even though you guys have a false self perception as such and promote a face of being as such. Because Hindus have the same self perception and provide the same face.
    Japan is a polytheist nation thanks to Shinto and is a high trust society, Islamic countries on the other hand are low trust societies where corruption, cheating-swindling, lack of discipline reigns supreme. The only exception might be some of the Gulf Arab states like the Emirate of Dubai where laws are more or less followed and there is less corruption. Except these Gulf states, nearly all Muslim countries are full of corruption, cheatings-swindling, taking advantage etc… and other Third World traits, despite monotheism.!!!

  159. Malla says:
    @d dan

    When….mentality.

    Exactly, those Uyghurs who sell their freedom for development can be seen as house niggers of the CPC. That is what I meant.

    You are.

    No, I am not. I am actually a Sinophile is some ways. China, like any entity is not above criticism. Wumaos are just like Indian Nationalists, who cannot even imagine anybody criticizing their perfect India, for them their great motherland, India is the one thing above criticism. Both Chinese Wumaos and Indian Nats are similar and deserve each other. LOL.

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  160. Malla says:
    @anon

    They were also very enamoured of Hitler and Nazi’s Aryanism .

    Oy whey, Hindu Nationalists like V.D. Savarkar admired Adolf Hitler, Third Reich, National Socialism, Mussolini, Fascism, Hideki Tojo, Japanese Empire etc….Boo Hoo.
    But what have we here? Muslims enlisting in the German Waffen SS to fight for Third Reich!!!


    Hitler’s Jihadis: Muslim Volunteers of the SS: Muslim Volunteers of the Waffen-SS (Hitler’s Legions) – Jonathan Trigg


    Heinrich Himmler, the Reichsführer of the Schutzstaffel (SS) Inspecting Muslim Nazi Waffen-SS Division

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  161. @Constant Walker

    [We’ll see whether and for how long it has any receivers.]

    Trust me when I say that those who have approved of your posts so far, represent the cream of the commentators, as far as I am concerned.

    I appreciate your modesty, a virtue that is not so prevalent these days.

    Keep up the good work.

    Cheers

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  162. Apostolos says:
    @Brad Anbro

    We have way and way to go to the real end of history i.e. Christ Second Coming.

    It is that the opponent is speeding up and becomes careless as if he is out of time (for the very near future)

    WW III is long overdue because we have really outdone Sodom and you name it in degradation.
    And probably outdone the opponent in ego too as most of us are non believers.

    Which is thank God (only) good news for what will be left from the human race when the dust settles (how few?) as there will be some more time to breed a generation better than ours to last to a nightmare as compared to now in which it will be the end.

  163. d dan says:
    @Malla

    “No, I am not. I am actually a Sinophile is some ways.”

    Let me teach you some basic manner than. If I go to your house and see that your wife (or children) behaves differently than typical Chinese/Han wife toward you (the husband), and I start openly insult your wife, do you consider my behavior “respectful?” I still can say one thousand good things about your family, but no normal people would consider my behavior “friendly.”

    “China, like any entity is not above criticism. ”

    Calling 12 millions Uighurs “selling their freedom”, “house niggers”, etc is not a criticism of China. It is insulting the people’s choice. It is sitting on high moral horse to lecture the “not noble” people what their priorities should be. It is holier-than-thou attitude typical of the racist whites and colonial mentality. It shouldn’t come from a “neutral” country like India. But coming from you, I am not surprise: you are neither neutral, nor Indian, nor Sinophile.

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  164. @Joe Levantine

    Again, thanks. As to keeping it up, The Grandmothers who set it in motion are still saying it’s worthwhile. Joe Levantine and some others seem to be seconding that….for now, anyhow.

    Cheers back atcha!

  165. @Malla

    There is no problem with Islam in China. There was a problem with militants. Huge difference. Let an Iraqi explain it to you below.

    As to issues in India. Again the whole point of the SCO is the C means “cooperate”. The “Shanghai spirit” was Russia and China 30 years ago buried the hatchet on the differences of the 19th and 20th century..

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  166. @Aleatorius

    Your comment is ridiculous since Islam has been rooted in China for 1300 years. Let a Muslim explain it to you.

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  167. anon[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    1 Rise of a thug to prime minister’s office made possible by burning a train and killing people then blaming on muslim

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis/15-years-after-the-godhra-we-still-don-t-know-who-lit-the-fire/story-vkeZowN2nhvVkAJPZAPntN.html

    1-Caught On Camera: Rajasthan BJP MLA Says Ambani, Adani Had Prior Information On Demonetisation

    . The Adanis and the Ambanis already knew about it and sorted their money in advance,” he is heard saying in the video released by ANI news agency.  

    https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/caught-on-camera-rajasthan-bjp-mla-says-ambani-adani-had-prior-information-on-demonetisation-265698.html

    2-Hindu religious symbolism represented by hundreds of naked fat religious male horde following Modi at an aisle inside parliament
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/28/world/asia/india-parliament.html

    2-A master plan from RSS to turn the country in the image of Pakistan, Haredi settler complex ,and Taliban – all combined under the guidance of RSS

    https://www.outlookindia.com/national/rss-pracharaks-are-seeking-to-convert-people-to-hindu-way-of-life--magazine-301270

    3-Covid poitics of Modi
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/30/modi-india-covid-19-pandemic-crisis-disaster/
    and other showmanship — https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/05/india-train-crash-odisha-modi-railway-modernization-infrastructure/

    4- https://www.npr.org/2020/04/16/835710029/hindu-nationalists-blame-muslims-for-indias-covid-19-crisis

    5 Kashmir is still under military controll by some hundreds of thousands of army personnell, ,like Manipur now has peridically been subjected to blckades and internet shutdwon for extended periods with

    6 Farmers agitation in Punjab

    7 Christian killings under BJP in BJP ruled states .

    8
    Worst enemployement in recorded history of India.

    But the moron – RSS inspired leaders travel to west and return to India to celebrate how well he was received . Indian communal middle class dutifully endorse thug’s communal politicts
    at next federal and local northern Indian elections .

    Turkey – Kurd economic ,cultural,and educational symbiosis.

    https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-northern-iraq/turkish-businesses-do-roaring-trade-iraqi-kurdistan

    https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/mena/open-for-business-turkey-s-bankers-tap-into-kurdish-boom-1.415086

    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/turkey-and-krg-undeclared-economic-commonwealth

    https://www.rudaw.net/english/business/21052023

    Historical background of the sociological ,foreign ,domestic factors of the conflicts ( Kurd Turkey).
    https://merip.org/1984/02/the-kurds-in-turkey/

  168. obam says:
    @Malla

    Mufti of Jerusalem came to Germany seeking military help to throw Britain out . Somewhat like what Subhas Bose did.
    Muslim leaders fascination with Hitler was military related not based on some inferiority complex or was not meant to foster certain identity .

    RSS ‘s servile and panegyristic attitude to Hitler was social and ethnic in nature based on seeking validation,legitimacy, equality and accecptance in the eyes of the Europeans. RSS hatred of Jews back in 30s was also based on opportunism and racism.

    Hindu hatred of muslims was pioneered by Hindu politcal ,literary,and administrative figures right after 1858 starting with Bankim Chandra .

    Upper caste Brahmins Hindus were so preoccupied with control of the education and economy at the hands of the upper caste that they openly talked about against econmic and social liberation of the rest
    of the Hindus in pre 1947 India for decades .

    Muslim attack on Hindus and attacked temples in Kerala was a continutation of the violence perpetrated by Hindu landowners against Muslim peasants decades before the incident engulfed the broader communities from both side.
    It will be like if historians forgot today the systemic rioting,oppression,dehumanization,and killings of muslim at the hands of the RSS – Hindu businessmen and large agro business group- BJP thugs
    and focussed on ( future )attack by muslims on RSS run school, Ayoddha Mandir,and north Indian
    olice stations decades later .

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  169. @showmethereal

    The Han Chinese are money worshippers and has nothing to do Islam. East Turkmenistan is nothing but financial opportunities for a very mercantile people. The whole world is against you save some irrelevant countries, so, enjoy the fifteen minutes of fame, while it lasts.

  170. @Charles Pewitt

    Sam Huntington married an Armenian woman. His colleague Fouad Ajami declared it as proof that SH was “no nativist.”

  171. Malla says:
    @d dan

    Let me teach you some basic manner than

    You are again muddying up the issue, squirting ink like an octopus to confuse the issue. The issue here is that like Indian Nationalists, who have this arrogant behaviour where they criticize other nations like Western nations, China, Pakistan, Muslim nations etc… but cannot tolerate anybody (foreigners or Indians) criticizing India, Wumaos have the same mentality too. They can criticize other nations but cry and weep if someone criticizes China. Showmethereal can criticize India but Indians (or anybody) cannot criticize China, it seems. So in his mind and people like him, the skewed rules are set. A Middle Kingdom mentality in a different age. Again as I said, Indian nats and Chinese Wumaos are remarkably similar in mentality.

    It is insulting the people’s choice.

    For Uyghur Nationalists, those Uyghurs who collaborate with the occupation PRC government, they are house niggers at best or traitors at worst.

    It shouldn’t come from a “neutral” country like India.

    India does as it pleases, China is no Middle Kingdom of which India is some tributary state Need to get off the arrogant mentality.

    you are neither neutral

    Wrong, I definitely am neutral.

    nor Indian

    I think you are losing your mind. I am not typical Indian and that is why I am friendlier to China. The typical Indian like say Mehool Uncle looks at China as an Imperialist whore. If you do not know this, you do not know nothing. This has nothing to do with the West, Indian negative opinion towards China has nothing to do with the West, indeed India is not sure if the West will support it against China, if the West is trustworthy enough when dealing with China.

    nor Sinophile.

    Again false, I am definitely a Sinophile, less than say few years ago, but still am a Sinophile.

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  172. Malla says:
    @obam

    RSS ‘s servile and panegyristic attitude to Hitler was social and ethnic in nature based on seeking validation,legitimacy, equality and accecptance in the eyes of the Europeans.

    Again more gas farting out of barbarian diseased muzzie ass with no proof. Anybody who has anything to do with the RSS will know that the RSS has zero inferiority complex towards Europeans. Indeed the RSS is the source of extreme anti-White hatred common in India. The RSS repeatedly has been pushing anti-White, anti-West propaganda in India for decades. The RSS uses all kind of cheap, made up, third rate anti-West propaganda to make Western civilization look crap so that Indians stay with Hindu civilization.

    Hindu hatred of muslims was pioneered by Hindu politcal ,literary,and administrative figures right after 1858 starting with Bankim Chandra .

    Hindu hatred for Muslims started way back with Islamic invasions of India. Hindutva is nothing but anti-colonialism and anti-Imperialism. Against both European as well as Middle Eastern variety of colonialism and Imperialism.

    Muslim attack on Hindus and attacked temples in Kerala was a continutation of the violence perpetrated by Hindu landowners against Muslim peasants decades before the incident engulfed the broader communities from both side.

    This is bullcrap theory invented by the Indian left which tries to push every issue through a class lens. The brutal massacre of Hindus by Muslims had zero to do with class of landlordism (most Hindus were peasants, not landlords), but the promise of an Islamic State in South India. Mopplahs are low IQ bastard spawn of Mixed Arab and Indian descent during the disorders 1921, Kalifat movement (financed by the Ottoman Empire) sent emissaries preaching a special edition of its doctrines. British Imperial Government’s hand, these proclaimed, was raised against the holy places of Islam. Government was “Satanic,” an enemy of the Faith. Government must and would be driven out of India and that right soon. Islamic Swaraj must be set up. From mosque to mosque, from hamlet to hamlet, from coconut grove to cocoanut grove, the fiery words passed. And, whatever meaning they might have for a high IQ Muslim of the likes of Jinnah or Iqbal, to the low IQ Moplah muslims, they meant a pure land of Islam. But what right do these filthy idol worshiping Hindus have to remain is a coming pure land of Islam in South India? Islamic Swaraj, to a low IQ Moplah muslim, could only mean the coming of the earthly Kingdom of Islam, in which, whatever else happened or failed to happen, no idol-worshiping Hindu could be tolerated alive. So the Moplahs, secretly and as best they could, made store of weapons–knives, spears, cutlasses. And on August 20, 1921, the thing broke loose. As if by a preliminary gesture of courtesy to the sponsors of the occasion, one European planter was murdered at the start. But without further dissipation of energy the frenzied low IQ fundamentalist Muslim mobs then concentrated on the far more congenial task of killing Hindus. First blocking the roads, cutting the telegraph wires and tearing up the railway lines at strategic points, thereby isolating the little police stations scattered through the mountains, they set to work, in earnest and in detail, to establish a Muslim Kingdom and to declare an Islamic Swaraj after their own hearts. The Hindu women, as a rule, were forcibly converted and were then added to Moplah families. The Hindu men were sometimes given the choice of death or “conversion,” sometimes flayed alive, sometimes cutlassed at once and thrown down their own wells. In one district, the Ernad Taluk, over nine hundred males were forcibly converted and the work spread on through the mountain-slopes.
    So no, trying to portray it as farmers revolting against landlords@ as Indian marxists try to portray, is outright lies, propaganda and cunning deflection.

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  173. Malla says:
    @showmethereal

    There is no problem with Islam in China. There was a problem with militants. Huge difference.

    WTF??? Please show me, where did I write that there was a problem with Islam in China??? I spoke about Islamic terrorists, which means militants.

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  174. obam says:
    @Malla

    The 800-year-old structure is an important place of worship in northern Maharashtra and a property registered under the Waqf Board

    The ASI has supported the trust’s claims that it is an ancient structure. It said that since the time the ASI was involved in 1986, prayers have been offered inside the mosque premises. The ASI stated that the mosque has been an open and accessible space for the Muslim community for time immemorial. 

    The centuries-old mosque suddenly became a site of controversy because of a complaint filed by an unregistered organisation called “Pandavwada Sangharsh Samiti”. The complainant, Prasad Madhusudan Dandawate, moved a petition before the Jalgaon district collector Aman Mittal in mid-May. Dandawate, according to his Facebook profile, is a member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and Bajrang Dal. In his complaint, Dandawate claimed that the mosque was built over a Hindu place of worship and is illegal and should be taken over by the state authorities. The complainant also claims that the Jumma Masjid Trust has “illegally” encroached over the space.

    https://thewire.in/rights/jalgaon-right-wing-activist-complaint-juma-masjid-namaz-ban

    This is the way Hindu operates. This is RSS ,this is tbe way Modi came to politics holding microphone for Advani in 1992 while demolishing Babri

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  175. @Aleatorius

    You are an official troll. Xinjiang was not the first place for Muslims in China (East Turkistan – not Turkmenistan and it was a made up Soviet name). Uighurs are Muslim converts too – which is why they don’t all hold the strict form of it. You know nothing of history. Muslims first moved to China in the coastal areas. The oldest mosques – some many centuries old – are in coastal cities. You have no clue what you are talking about. Except for Turkey – China has top notch relations with every other Muslim nation. Fools suffer fools.

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  176. @Malla

    Anyone who reads your writings can plainly see you don’t like Muslims at all. Stop…

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    , @Malla
  177. @showmethereal

    Malla is intimate with cows—lots of them and bulls too many to count.
    India will never advance as long as the caste system exits…….

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  178. d dan says:
    @Malla

    “For Uyghur Nationalists, those Uyghurs who collaborate with the occupation PRC government, they are house niggers at best or traitors at worst.”

    Here you go again with you double speak. I am not interested in “Uyghur Nationalists” opinion, and already could guess what they think. I am talking about YOUR opinion: your comments calling the Uighurs “selling freedom for money”, “not noble” and “house niggers.”

    “cry and weep if someone criticizes China”

    Let me state one more time: insulting the 12 millions Uighurs’ choice to live peacefully in China is NOT “criticizing China,” however way you want to wiggle out. You are not criticizing the CPC, not the government, not even the Han people. You are attacking the Uighurs – a minority, directly. I am defending them, and their rights to live peacefully.

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  179. antibeast says:
    @d dan

    Let me state one more time: insulting the 12 millions Uighurs’ choice to live peacefully in China is NOT “criticizing China,” however way you want to wiggle out. You are not criticizing the CPC, not the government, not even the Han people. You are attacking the Uighurs – a minority, directly. I am defending them, and their rights to live peacefully.

    The Uyghurs are not the only Muslims as the Huis are the largest Muslim population in China. Nor are the Turkic-speaking Uyghurs indigenous to Xinjiang which is right next door to Tajikistan. There are Persian-speaking Tajiks in the Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County in Kashgar Prefecture in Xinjiang who are indigenous to the Central Asian region. The ancestral homeland of the Turkic-speaking Uyghurs is not in Xinjiang but in Mongolia. The Uyghurs are free to move to their ancestral homeland in Mongolia if they don’t like to live in Xinjiang which never belonged to them.

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  180. @Aleatorius

    As always, when a Western racist says ‘the whole world’ he means White, Western, racists like him. For his type the rest are various ‘niggers’.

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  181. @mulga mumblebrain

    Presto! Are you a yellow “nigger?”

  182. @antibeast

    And Tibet never belonged to the Hanistan, so, the yellow rats can move back to Guangdong anytime they like and take their stink with them. Two can play the same game!

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  183. antibeast says:
    @Aleatorius

    And Tibet never belonged to the Hanistan, so, the yellow rats can move back to Guangdong anytime they like and take their stink with them.

    China has a political, cultural and economic history in Xinjiang dating back to the Han Dynasty. The original inhabitants of Xinjiang were the Iranic-speaking Aryans who became Buddhists 2,000 years ago. That’s how Buddhism spread to China by way of the Silk Road which passed through Xinjiang. The Uyghurs moved from Mongolia and settled in Xinjiang early in the 10th century after the fall of their Uyghur Khaganate. They adopted Buddhism and later converted to Turkic Islam after several centuries of Muslim invasions. But the Uyghurs never ruled Xinjiang which was controlled by a succession of Chinese and non-Chinese States (Tibetan, Turkic, Mongol) until its annexation by the Qing Dynasty in the 18th century.

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  184. Malla says:
    @showmethereal

    False, Muslims can be criticized just alike anybody else. They are not above criticism. Anybody who reads your writings can see you hate Indians.

  185. Malla says:
    @GomezAdddams

    Gomez the low IQ monkey comes in again.

  186. Malla says:
    @obam

    This is the way Hindu operates.

    I agree, the Hindu acts too civilized (what Muzzie would call “cowardly”), moving petition, going to court. Hindu should behave like Muzzie. Like how Muzzies enter temples and ransack the place, old habit of looting and destruction.

    Muslims ransack Hindu temple in Pakistan

    Muzzie barbarians ooops, I mean Muzzie “braves” enter and ransack Hindu temple in Pakistan.
    Why waste time for petition to collector or go to court and behave “cowardly” Hindu way. Just enter and ransack like barbarian oops….. “brave” forefathers. A old and long Muzzie tradition, they hold with pride. Bravo.

    Or better yet, Muzzie attack on Hindu temples with weapons. This is old Muzzie tradition they inherit from their barbaric ooops…sorry “Brave” ancestors, which law abiding…ooops…”cowardly” Hindus should learn from.

    Hindu Temple In Pakistan’s Sindh Attacked With Rocket Launchers

    Hopefully Hindu will learn and take notes.
    Thank You!

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  187. antibeast says:
    @antibeast

    And here’s my proof — a map showing how Buddhism spread to China from India through Central Asia via the Silk Road in Xinjiang:

    The idea of an Islamic State called ‘East Turkestan’ in Xinjiang was the invention of Russian Turcologists who misnamed the whole Central Asian region as the so-called ‘Turkestan’ or ‘Land of the Turks’. But genetic evidence as well as archaeological sites have proven that area to be the ancestral homeland of the Aryans who emerged in Central Asia circa 2000BCE.

    So how did Turkic peoples get to displace the Aryans of Central Asia? Here’s a brief explanation from this website:

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

    Proto-Indo-Iranian speakers, the people who later called themselves ‘Aryans’ in the Rig Veda and the Avesta, originated in the Sintashta-Petrovka culture (2100-1750 BCE), in the Tobol and Ishim valleys, east of the Ural Mountains. It was founded by pastoralist nomads from the Abashevo culture (2500-1900 BCE), ranging from the upper Don-Volga to the Ural Mountains, and the Poltavka culture (2700-2100 BCE), extending from the lower Don-Volga to the Caspian depression.

    The Sintashta-Petrovka culture, associated with R1a-Z93 and its subclades, was the first Bronze Age advance of the Indo-Europeans west of the Urals, opening the way to the vast plains and deserts of Central Asia to the metal-rich Altai mountains. The Aryans quickly expanded over all Central Asia, from the shores of the Caspian to southern Siberia and the Tian Shan, through trading, seasonal herd migrations, and looting raids.

    Horse-drawn war chariots seem to have been invented by Sintashta people around 2100 BCE, and quickly spread to the mining region of Bactria-Margiana (modern border of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Afghanistan). Copper had been extracted intensively in the Urals, and the Proto-Indo-Iranians from Sintashta-Petrovka were exporting it in huge quantities to the Middle East. They appear to have been attracted by the natural resources of the Zeravshan valley for a Petrovka copper-mining colony was established in Tugai around 1900 BCE, and tin was extracted soon afterwards at Karnab and Mushiston. Tin was an especially valued resource in the late Bronze Age, when weapons were made of copper-tin alloy, stronger than the more primitive arsenical bronze. In the 1700’s BCE, the Indo-Iranians expanded to the lower Amu Darya valley and settled in irrigation farming communities (Tazabagyab culture). By 1600 BCE, the old fortified towns of Margiana-Bactria were abandoned, submerged by the northern steppe migrants. The group of Central Asian cultures under Indo-Iranian influence is known as the Andronovo horizon, and lasted until 800 BCE.

    The Indo-Iranian migrations progressed further south across the Hindu Kush. By 1700 BCE, horse-riding pastoralists had penetrated into Balochistan (south-west Pakistan). The Indus valley succumbed circa 1500 BCE, and the northern and central parts of the Indian subcontinent were taken over by 500 BCE. Westward migrations led Old Indic Sanskrit speakers riding war chariots to Assyria, where they became the Mitanni rulers from circa 1500 BCE. The Medes, Parthians and Persians, all Iranian speakers from the Andronovo culture, moved into the Iranian plateau from 800 BCE. Those that stayed in Central Asia are remembered by history as the Scythians, while the Yamna descendants who remained in the Pontic-Caspian steppe became known as the Sarmatians to the ancient Greeks and Romans.

    The Indo-Iranian migrations have resulted in high R1a frequencies in southern Central Asia, Iran and the Indian subcontinent. The highest frequency of R1a (about 65%) is reached in a cluster around Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and northern Afghanistan. In India and Pakistan, R1a ranges from 15 to 50% of the population, depending on the region, ethnic group and caste. R1a is generally stronger is the North-West of the subcontinent, and weakest in the Dravidian-speaking South (Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh) and from Bengal eastward. Over 70% of the Brahmins (highest caste in Hindusim) belong to R1a1, due to a founder effect.

    Maternal lineages in South Asia are, however, overwhelmingly pre-Indo-European. For instance, India has over 75% of “native” mtDNA M and R lineages and 10% of East Asian lineages. In the residual 15% of haplogroups, approximately half are of Middle Eastern origin. Only about 7 or 8% could be of “Russian” (Pontic-Caspian steppe) origin, mostly in the form of haplogroup U2 and W (although the origin of U2 is still debated). European mtDNA lineages are much more common in Central Asia though, and even in Afghanistan and northern Pakistan. This suggests that the Indo-European invasion of India was conducted mostly by men through war. The first major settlement of Indo-Aryan women was in northern Pakistan, western India (Punjab to Gujarat) and northern India (Uttar Pradesh), where haplogroups U2 and W are the most common today.

    The present-day inhabitants of Central Asia, from Xinjiang to Turkey and from the Volga to the Hindu Kush, speak in overwhelming majority Turkic languages. This may be surprising as this corresponds to the region where the Indo-Iranian branch of Indo-European speakers expanded, the Bronze-Age Andronovo culture, and the Iron-Age Scythian territory. So why is it that Indo-European languages only survives in Slavic Russia or in the southern part of Central Asia, in places like Tajikistan, Afghanistan or some parts of Turkmenistan ? Why don’t the Uyghurs, Uzbeks, Kazakhs and Kyrgyzs, or the modern Pontic-Caspian steppe people (Crimean Tatars, Nogais, Bashkirs and Chuvashs) speak Indo-European vernaculars ? Genetically these people do carry Indo-European R1a, and to a lesser extent also R1b, lineages. The explanation is that Turkic languages replaced the Iranian tongues of Central Asia between the 4th and 11th century CE.

    Proto-Turkic originated in Mongolia and southern Siberia with such nomadic tribes as the Xiongnu. It belongs to the Altaic linguistic family, like Mongolian and Manchu (some also include Korean and Japanese, although they share very little vocabulary in common). It is unknown when Proto-Turkic first emerged, but its spread started with the Hunnic migrations westward through the Eurasian steppe and all the way to Europe, only stopped by the boundaries of the Roman Empire.

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