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The US submarine captain says, “We’ve all got to die one day, some sooner and some later. The trouble always has been that you’re never ready, because you don’t know when it’s coming. Well, now we do know and there’s nothing to be done about it.”
He says he will be dead by September. It will take about a week to die, though no one can be sure. Animals live the longest.
The war was over in a month. The United States, Russia and China were the protagonists. It is not clear if it was started by accident or mistake. There was no victor. The northern hemisphere is contaminated and lifeless now.
A curtain of radioactivity is moving south towards Australia and New Zealand, southern Africa and South America. By September, the last cities, towns and villages will succumb. As in the north, most buildings will remain untouched, some illuminated by the last flickers of electric light.
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper
These lines from T.S. Eliot’s poem The Hollow Men appear at the beginning of Nevil Shute’s novel On the Beach, which left me close to tears. The endorsements on the cover said the same.
Published in 1957 at the height of the Cold War when too many writers were silent or cowed, it is a masterpiece. At first the language suggests a genteel relic; yet nothing I have read on nuclear war is as unyielding in its warning. No book is more urgent.
Some readers will remember the black and white Hollywood film starring Gregory Peck as the US Navy commander who takes his submarine to Australia to await the silent, formless spectre descending on the last of the living world.
I read On the Beach for the first time the other day, finishing it as the US Congress passed a law to wage economic war on Russia, the world’s second most lethal nuclear power. There was no justification for this insane vote, except the promise of plunder.
The “sanctions” are aimed at Europe, too, mainly Germany, which depends on Russian natural gas and on European companies that do legitimate business with Russia. In what passed for debate on Capitol Hill, the more garrulous senators left no doubt that the embargo was designed to force Europe to import expensive American gas.
Their main aim seems to be war – real war. No provocation as extreme can suggest anything else. They seem to crave it, even though Americans have little idea what war is. The Civil War of 1861-5 was the last on their mainland. War is what the United States does to others.
The only nation to have used nuclear weapons against human beings, they have since destroyed scores of governments, many of them democracies, and laid to waste whole societies – the million deaths in Iraq were a fraction of the carnage in Indo-China, which President Reagan called “a noble cause” and President Obama revised as the tragedy of an “exceptional people”He was not referring to the Vietnamese.
Filming last year at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, I overheard a National Parks Service guide lecturing a school party of young teenagers. “Listen up,” he said. “We lost 58,000 young soldiers in Vietnam, and they died defending your freedom.”
At a stroke, the truth was inverted. No freedom was defended. Freedom was destroyed. A peasant country was invaded and millions of its people were killed, maimed, dispossessed, poisoned; 60,000 of the invaders took their own lives. Listen up, indeed.
A lobotomy is performed on each generation. Facts are removed. History is excised and replaced by what Time magazine calls “an eternal present”. Harold Pinter described this as “manipulation of power worldwide, while masquerading as a force for universal good, a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis [which meant] that it never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest.”
Those who call themselves liberals or tendentiously “the left” are eager participants in this manipulation, and its brainwashing, which today revert to one name: Trump.
Trump is mad, a fascist, a dupe of Russia. He is also a gift for “liberal brains pickled in the formaldehyde of identity politics”, wrote Luciana Bohne memorably. The obsession with Trump the man — not Trump as a symptom and caricature of an enduring system – beckons great danger for all of us.
While they pursue their fossilised anti-Russia agendas, narcissistic media such as the Washington Post, the BBC and the Guardiansuppress the essence of the most important political story of our time as they warmonger on a scale I cannot remember in my lifetime.
On 3 August, in contrast to the acreage the Guardian has given to drivel that the Russians conspired with Trump (reminiscent of the far-right smearing of John Kennedy as a “Soviet agent”), the paper buried, on page 16, news that the President of the United States was forced to sign a Congressional bill declaring economic war on Russia.
Unlike every other Trump signing, this was conducted in virtual secrecy and attached with a caveat from Trump himself that it was “clearly unconstitutional”.
A coup against the man in the White House is under way. This is not because he is an odious human being, but because he has consistently made clear he does not want war with Russia.
This glimpse of sanity, or simple pragmatism, is anathema to the “national security” managers who guard a system based on war, surveillance, armaments, threats and extreme capitalism. Martin Luther King called them “the greatest purveyors of violence in the world today”.
They have encircled Russia and China with missiles and a nuclear arsenal. They have used neo-Nazis to instal an unstable, aggressive regime on Russia’s “borderland” – the way through which Hitler invaded, causing the deaths of 27 million people. Their goal is to dismember the modern Russian Federation.
In response, “partnership” is a word used incessantly by Vladimir Putin — anything, it seems, that might halt an evangelical drive to war in the United States. Incredulity in Russia may have now turned to fear and perhaps a certain resolution. The Russians almost certainly have war-gamed nuclear counter strikes. Air-raid drills are not uncommon. Their history tells them to get ready.
The threat is simultaneous. Russia is first, China is next. The US has just completed a huge military exercise with Australia known as Talisman Sabre. They rehearsed a blockade of the Malacca Straits and the South China Sea, through which pass China’s economic lifelines.
The admiral commanding the US Pacific fleet said that, “if required”, he would nuke China. That he would say such a thing publicly in the current perfidious atmosphere begins to make fact of Nevil Shute’s fiction.
None of this is considered news. No connection is made as the bloodfest of Passchendaele a century ago is remembered. Honest reporting is no longer welcome in much of the media. Windbags, known as pundits, dominate: editors are infotainment or party line managers. Where there was once sub-editing, there is the liberation of axe-grinding clichés. Those journalists who do not comply are defenestrated.
The urgency has plenty of precedents. In my film, The Coming War on China, John Bordne, a member of a US Air Force missile combat crew based in Okinawa, Japan, describes how in 1962 – during the Cuban missile crisis – he and his colleagues were “told to launch all the missiles” from their silos.
Nuclear armed, the missiles were aimed at both China and Russia. A junior officer questioned this, and the order was eventually rescinded – but only after they were issued with service revolvers and ordered to shoot at others in a missile crew if they did not “stand down”.
At the height of the Cold War, the anti-communist hysteria in the United States was such that US officials who were on official business in China were accused of treason and sacked. In 1957 – the year Shute wrote On the Beach – no official in the State Department could speak the language of the world’s most populous nation. Mandarin speakers were purged under strictures now echoed in the Congressional bill that has just passed, aimed at Russia.
The bill was bipartisan. There is no fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans. The terms “left” and “right” are meaningless. Most of America’s modern wars were started not by conservatives, but by liberal Democrats.
When Obama left office, he presided over a record seven wars, including America’s longest war and an unprecedented campaign of extrajudicial killings – murder – by drones.
In his last year, according to a Council on Foreign Relations study, Obama, the “reluctant liberal warrior”, dropped 26,171 bombs – three bombs every hour, 24 hours a day. Having pledged to help “rid the world” of nuclear weapons, the Nobel Peace Laureate built more nuclear warheads than any president since the Cold War.
Trump is a wimp by comparison. It was Obama – with his secretary of state Hillary Clinton at his side – who destroyed Libya as a modern state and launched the human stampede to Europe. At home, immigration groups knew him as the “deporter-in-chief”.
One of Obama’s last acts as president was to sign a bill that handed a record $618billion to the Pentagon, reflecting the soaring ascendancy of fascist militarism in the governance of the United States. Trump has endorsed this.
Buried in the detail was the establishment of a “Center for Information Analysis and Response”. This is a ministry of truth. It is tasked with providing an “official narrative of facts” that will prepare us for the real possibility of nuclear war – if we allow it.
John Pilger can be reached through his website: www.johnpilger.com
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A truly excellent piece. Bravo to Pilger, one of the few remaining honest commentators in the Anglosphere who call things as they really are. Might all the present-day Western MSM scum perish; and only Pilger and those like him remain standing!
Not only is the ‘North Korean nuclear threat’ a fake issue being used to fear-monger people of USA, Japan & Europe … it’s also clear that ‘nuclear weapons’ as a whole have always been fake, with multiple proofs now that, e.g., Hiroshima was a chemical fire-bombing war crime, just like Tokyo, Yokohama, Osaka, Dresden, Hamburg
From a recent overview of why Hiroshima was not a ‘nuclear’ or ‘atomic bomb’ explosion:
http://www.newnationalist.net/2017/08/01/was-hiroshima-firebombed-and-not-nuked/
– Swedish nuclear engineer Anders Björkman, once asked to investigate ‘nuclear weapons’ for Sweden, has argued in detail for years that nuclear weapons are impossible, fake, & have never existed (versus nuclear power, which does work)
– The ‘smoking gun’ proving Hiroshima was fake, is in 1945 US military records, logging 66 aeroplanes as ‘chemically fire-bombing Imabari, Japan’, close to Hiroshima, at the same date & hour as the alleged ‘atomic bomb’ … Imabari which no longer existed, having been totally destroyed in 2 previous fire-bombing raids … this was the fleet that fire-bombed Hiroshima
– German Jesuit Rev John Siemes, eye-witness in Hiroshima, documented local witnesses reporting planes spreading incendiary material
– US military Major Alexander de Seversky, surveying Japanese cities shortly afterwards, found wooden-house-burned Hiroshima to show no signs at all of anything other than chemical fire-bombing, just like Tokyo, Yokohama & Osaka … central iron-steel buildings were intact, fragile objects undamaged, even flag poles still up beneath ‘ground zero’ … no spot where things had been ‘vapourised’
– At the time there was huge intimidation, ‘death penalty for unauthorised speaking’, suppression of Japanese & USA witnesses & involved persons … whilst allowed statements seem scripted & false-seeming
– Photographs of Hiroshima smoke look exactly like columns of smoke from chemical fire-bombing, confirmed by Japanese witnesses who eventually did speak … in general, the ‘mushroom clouds’ eventually marketed as the ‘nuclear weapon signature’, are also from certain types of chemical explosions, as recently exploding Chinese factories have shown
– The area destroyed in Hiroshima, was only one-fourth the size of the area destroyed in Tokyo fire-bombing with identical devastation
– A 1990 medical study, completing 40 years of investigation of Hiroshima & Nagasaki survivors, showed no genetic damage, as is typical of those exposed to too-high radiation
Recently, there has been a move to wind down the nuclear weapons hoax, with this year’s ‘UN resolution to ban & destroy all nuclear weapons’ … a ‘great favour’ the coming one-world globalist government will do for us, putting the nuclear weapons hoax to rest. They can claim to dis-assemble all the nuclear weapons like South Africa claimed to do in the past
But over 72 years, all 10 alleged ‘nuclear bomb nations’ have played along, in what seems a global scam, trillions for oligarchs owning armaments industries … wealth shared, e.g., with Soviet Union elites in the fake ‘Cold War’ over decades (the ‘Cold War’ hoax proven by economist Antony Sutton half a cenury ago in ‘The Best Enemy Money Can Buy’, with Israel a key USA-Moscow transfer point)
Plus the ‘nuclear weapons’ scam has been a tool for the big and medium powers who are allowed to claim to have them … Consider the history:
1945 – USA chemically bombs Hiroshima & Nagasaki (like Tokyo, Dresden, Hamburg…), also dumping illness-inducing radioactive rubbish. Witnesses ordered to shut up under threat of death, chemical-blast ‘mushroom clouds’ in film & photos – USA HAS NUCLEAR BOMBS
1949 – Soviet Union accepts deal for Russian elites to get wealthy by playing along with Cold War & global nuclear terror – COMMIE RUSSIA HAS THE BOMB
1952 – UK Brits & London financial centre don’t want to be 2nd class – UK HAS THE BOMB
1960 – France chafes not to be 2nd class to Brits – FRANCE & DE GAULLE HAVE THE BOMB
1964 – China upgraded to major league – COMMIE CHINA HAS THE BOMB
1966 – Israel joins the club in time to terrorise & blackmail Arabs in 1967 & 1973 wars – JEWS HAVE THE BOMB & JEWS ARE READY TO SAMSON OPTION EVERYBODY, later ‘confirmed’ by Mordechai Vanunu to MI6 London Times & then maybe living on Haifa beach, not ‘in Israeli prison’, like ‘not really in Ecuador Embassy’ Julian Assange
1974 – India accepted as big power, debasing its heritage naming its bomb programme ‘Smiling Buddha’ – INDIA HAS THE BOMB
1979 – South Africa’s white apartheid gov gets to play – WHITE RACIST SOUTH AFRICA HAS THE BOMB READY TO KILL BLACK PEOPLE … but ‘dismantles bombs’ before Mandela & black government can find out the scam
1998 – Pakistan becomes central player in new Western anti-Muslim theme – PAKISTANI MUSLIMS HAVE THE BOMB & OSAMA OR TERRORISTS MIGHT GET AHOLD OF IT
2006 – North Korea, always making deals, gets to upgrade – CRAZY NORTH KOREA HAS THE BOMB
‘Nuclear terror’ – A greatly profitable business, & a superbly effective piece of hoax propaganda
“The thickest grass is easier to cut than the thinnest.” Alaric’s response to Roman envoys who told him, shortly before his army besieged and ultimately sacked Rome, that the people of Rome were well trained and ready for war.
You have taken bull shit to a new level. Congratulations.
A review of your other posts show that you’re a 9/11 “truther,” that you believe the lunar landings (and space exploration in general) were all faked, and that Michelle Obama had a sex change operation. I would like to ask then: What conspiracy theories seem absurd to you, and why?
There’s obviously an inordinate number of end-of-the-world-is-right-around-the-corner articles here at Unz.com.
I used to think it was because the writers Unz chose to appear here just happened to have this mental affliction.
But Pilger isn’t a regular writer here.
Clickbait?
Depression?
Lack of children and therefore hope that it doesn’t matter?
Hope for a quick death (a lot of Unz writers are old like Pilger)?
John Pilger has done a lot of great work in recent years. I first heard of him years ago, when Auberon Waugh used to rail against him in the Spectator. Funny thing is I just happened to have a look at Waugh’s rant against Solzhenitsyn’s 1978 Harvard address. Solzhenitsyn’s analysis of the West stands up remarkably well while Waugh’s analysis of it looks pretty shameful.
Auberon Waugh’s piece:
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/26th-august-1978/5/another-voice
Solzhenitsyn’s Harvard speech:
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/SolzhenitsynHarvard.php
Solzhenitsyn’s analysis relates directly to the current anti-Russian hysteria and the legal trickery being used by those who simply can’t take Trump’s win in stride. We can also say that Waugh’s dismissive attitude to Russia has been repeated a lot lately. Funny how Waugh, Solzhenitsyn, John Pilger and the current state of the world all tie together like that.
This is not an argument against the linked article. Maybe read it?
Well, last few years are the golden age of conspiracies. Flat earth, hollow earth, moon hoax, nuke hoax, reptilians etc. They are everywhere, spreading like wildfire, the faster the dumber they are. Professionally done videos on Youtube with millions of hits, numerous anonymous commenters pushing this bullshit everywhere.
What about theory that people like “Brabantian” are not doing what they doing on their own, but are paid and organized by someone, for some reason.
Is this theory absurd enough for you?
Exploited rather than “paid and organized.” These folks simply have their B.S. detectors installed backwards (plausible seems implausible, implausible seems plausible). Don’t understand the psychology of it at all. Hence the question.
He is one of the last few journalists. Watch his description of propaganda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcD81WHkCsE
Video Link
US Democrats and Neocons both have a major hard-on for Russia.
Democrats hate Russia because Russia won’t implement the Democrat’s anti-white-Christian diversity scheme like it is currently implemented in the US.
Neocons hate Russia because Russia is a threat to their precious, expansionist Israeli-Jewish victim culture nation-state in the Middle East.
American diversity (aka victim culture) voters overwhelmingly elect Democrat and Neocon scumbags into high public office.
In exchange, American diversity voters receive federal entitlements for their peculiar victim group.
If you want to break the current anti-Russia conspiracy in the US that threatens war with Russia, break the diversity scheme.
Stop talking about the problem, and do something substantial to destroy the diversity scheme.
” – the way through which Hitler invaded, causing the deaths of 27 million people.”
Your proof for that number is where exactly? Wikipedia?
Don’t make me laugh.
see:
Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
BTW:
Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999
As for your childish ‘Nazi’ nonsense, time to grow up:
There were the ‘Nazis’ with the impossible ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.
The ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
http://codoh.com
No name calling, level playing field debate here:
http://forum.codoh.com
Yeah, stuff like that Anthropogenic Climate Change hoax going around the interwebs and sponsored by folks like Soros, Stryker and Bloomberg.
Well if one followed the “paid and organised” line one would of course fund a ready link to tbe CIA, having propagated “conspiracy theory” as a term of derision, reinforcing the idea of conspiracy theories as nutters, by paying people (or is he a team, like Rehmat?) like Brabantian to make rather obvious fools of themselves.
I won’t encourage Brabantian with a reply or even a Troll hit but I do note that the last atmospheric nuclear weapon test in 1963 was so definitely nuclear that its 50 Megaton effects included s marked change in the balance of Carbon isotopes in the atmosphere for at least two years. Some firestorm!
I used to find it hard to take anything Pilger wrote at anything like face value and was pleased to read Auberob Waugh’s skewering him with the term “Pilgerise (d)”. But I can only agree with his dismay at the madness (or badness) of the anti-Russian push.
A pity though that he throws in old Pilgered facts like America having destroyed “scores of governments, many of them democracies” qué!?
Then of course there is the simplistic view of what America aimed to do in Vietnam and what despite appalling failures it achieved – if mostly for other countries’ benefit.
I have no problem with the nuking of Japan back in 1945…otherwise great commentary by Pilger.
Pilger’s Australia could have easily been invaded….the Jap bastards did invade Darwin….and conquered by the Jap bastards. Australian women would have been forced into sexual slavery to service Tojo’s men.
Why can’t North Korea have ten nukes?…..I mean the Israelites got 200-400?
How bout that short money grubbing fat-bastard Alex Jones agitating for Donald Trump to nuke North Korea…..
Checked out at “Martin Luther King said …”, but caught a fleeting glimpse of “… used neo-Nazis to …”
Thank you, no.
John Pilger..magnificent as always. Really, one of few magnificent journalist and authors still left
No, not really.
“The threat is simultaneous. Russia is first, China is next. The US has just completed a huge military exercise with Australia known as Talisman Sabre. They rehearsed a blockade of the Malacca Straits and the South China Sea, through which pass China’s economic lifelines.”
This event is standard operating procedure. Nothing “nefarious” here.
“A coup against the man in the White House is under way. This is not because he is an odious human being, but because he has consistently made clear he does not want war with Russia.”
There is no coup. There are several investigations involving Trump and his team. We will see if the evidence drawn from it warrants charges, a trial, and legal consequences. No one knows how this will exactly play out.
“The “sanctions” are aimed at Europe, too, mainly Germany, which depends on Russian natural gas and on European companies that do legitimate business with Russia. In what passed for debate on Capitol Hill, the more garrulous senators left no doubt that the embargo was designed to force Europe to import expensive American gas.”
MAGA. American will continue to look out for its own interests.
“At a stroke, the truth was inverted. No freedom was defended. Freedom was destroyed. A peasant country was invaded and millions of its people were killed, maimed, dispossessed, poisoned; 60,000 of the invaders took their own lives. Listen up, indeed.”
Partially true about Vietnam. The people there wanted to exercise their freedom. However, Vietnam was a chip in the Cold War pot. America had to go all in, lest Russia win another hand. Remember the Domino Theory?
“Those who call themselves liberals or tendentiously “the left” are eager participants in this manipulation, and its brainwashing, which today revert to one name: Trump.”
Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.
“Trump is mad, a fascist, a dupe of Russia. He is also a gift for “liberal brains pickled in the formaldehyde of identity politics”, wrote Luciana Bohne memorably. The obsession with Trump the man — not Trump as a symptom and caricature of an enduring system – beckons great danger for all of us.”
The great danger has been Putin’s plutocracy and North Korea’s madman who has a new toy.
Let us assume that there is a nuclear war. There are those on the Alt Right who clamor for it, who believe that a “new age” will result, that liberalism and feminism and Cultural Marxism will die, and in its place will rise a monarchial form of government based on Christian ideals.
I’ll wait for another “On The Beach” sequel to appear on the silver screen for that scenario to play out.
“Their main aim seems to be war – real war. No provocation as extreme can suggest anything else.”
Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.
“These lines from T.S. Eliot’s poem The Hollow Men appear at the beginning of Nevil Shute’s novel On the Beach, which left me close to tears.”
Whoa, talk about hysteria!
In the early 60s, its peak, the total megatons of nukes were about 10,000. Today it’s about 500 megatons. It seems clear that if all of them go off, the result will be a lot less destructive than it would have been then.
This is because there are many fewer Bombs total, and the really big ones were got rid of, as they became unnecessary and ineffficient once accuracy improved.
America’s wars, certainly by the time of the Civil War, have been about professed altruism (we Good Hearts fight to free You) overlaying raw greed that seems unquenchable and that feeds worship of amoral power.
That is not true of the US soldier. He tends to be a down earth decent human being who is manipulated by the Elites who wage war to amass more power and wealth for the Elites and no one else.
“Let us assume that there is a nuclear war. There are those on the Alt Right who clamor for it, who believe that a “new age” will result, that liberalism and feminism and Cultural Marxism will die, and in its place will rise a monarchial form of government based on Christian ideals.”
Who gets to be King? Milo? Won’t that make hereditary monarchy a little problematic?
Have any of those supporting this reviewed the history of the last time “a monarchial form of government based on Christian ideals” was widespread?
So which sub-school of Neocon Invade the world/Invite the world imperialism do you prefer?
Darwin was not invaded. It was bombed.
The power centers of Oz were a long way away. Occupying Darwin would have done zero to affect the course of the war.
The Japs were smart enough to realize that trying to occupy Australia would have been an enormous and unprofitable drain on resources. So instead they tried to cut communications between US, their main enemy, and Oz. Oz without US supplies and support was no threat to them. They were stopped in this attempt at Guadalcanal.
I am not going to comment on internal US politics and Trump because I’m not an american citizen. But cold war chip.. domino theory? Remember war on terror maybe and how US again screwed up? Because of different “theories” half of the world is in flame. Iraq,Libya,almost Syria, Ukraine? Pilger was even gentle with his critics. Stop with this empire mentality and the world will be a better place
Que?! Well, Guatemala,Iran in 50’s,Honduras and Ukraine recently,several “color revolutions” in ex Soviet states..and many more which were not democratic, but existing regimes had some political legitimacy
I really can’t take the threat of nuclear “war” seriously. Yes, there are well informed people that either promote war or peace, but they are paid to do this. What would happen if a nuclear war occurred? Much of what passes for the wealth of the ((((elite)))) would be destroyed. Admittedly, these are evil people, but would they rather destroy everything out of spite? They would effect themselves as well. Sure, they could live out their pathetic lives in underground bunkers, with a supply of recycled water, food grown under artificial light and animals living in large enclosures. But, who would do the shit work for them? Hmm? I mean, if you’ve destroyed the world and you’re dependent on younger, stronger people to protect you and do your work, what will stop them from commandeering your environment and using your bodies to feed the pigs? Just a thought exercise.
No, given the fact that an EMP in the upper atmosphere could take out the electrical grid just as effectively as laying waste to their own property, don’t you think that would be a preferred course of action for the ((((parasites))))?
Pilger sounds like another long term entertainer – Paul Craig Roberts. All things Russia usually means critizing newspapers or Government policy because — look out — the inevitable rain of ICBMs / sky is falling could happen. No mention at all of two famous real estate disputes, namely Syria or the Ukriane. Instead the Washington Post and the Guardian are narcissists and a coup is underway. Quite a take down of the so-called opposing side of our propaganda systems. No shout-out for the New York Times?
Wags all over the internet (carefully monitored by the state/Inc as they enjoy themselves on social media) keep saying a coup is not underway – but our spooks keep pointing to the “narcissist” Washington Post and saying a coup is underway. All of this is quite entertaining. The press keeps a population running on a hamster wheel of simplistic. specious ideas, who can wait for September? It will all be explained just for you. Pay your bills and behave yourselves.
Jeez….those cry baby Chinese racists in Manchuria had nothing to worry about after all….
A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so “colossal” that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombing hoax is the best application of “A Big Lie” after Hitler using it to exterminate the Jews.
On the other hand the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombing hoax is in line with US-NATO portraying weapons of mass destruction as instruments of peace. Mini-nukes like B61-11 are said to be “harmless to the surrounding civilian population.” Preemptive nuclear war is a “humanitarian undertaking.”
“Australian women would have been forced into sexual slavery to service Tojo’s men.”
Paging Whiskey ! Paging Whiskey !
And don’t forget the HMAS Patricia Cam incident and the beheading of Pastor Leonard Kentish…didn’t take place in Darwin either….
If the Australians had the capability of dropping ten nukes on Japan…they should have done it…..back in 1941…..
Are you saying John Pilger is promoting nuclear war for the hope of a quick death, and he is not trying to prevent nuclear war by scaring people with the horror of nuclear war? Or you believe weapons of mass destruction is instruments of peace. Mini-nukes like B61-11 are “harmless to the surrounding civilian population.” Preemptive nuclear war is a “humanitarian undertaking?”
LOL
I don’t see an all-out nuke war. Elites have too much to lose. In fact, everything to lose. Elites are too greedy to blow it all up.
Biggest threat is not nuclear missiles but black genital-missiles.
ACOWW will destroy Europe. But Pilger is for that.
Just look at the following images: Africa is penis, Europa is vagina.
https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/895124298507186176
While this invasion of savages is happening, BBC makes TV shows where white historical figures are replaced with blacks. Blacks are lionized as god-hero-race. Divine Right of Blacks as the Lion King. German and Swedish government promote race-mixing with savages. France says a newly arrived African is just as French as Frenchmen with deep roots. France also elected some guy who says there is no French culture. And men like Pilger are addicted to self-righteous supremacist crap of bitching about ‘racism’. And white women go to dance clubs to dance to rap and seek negro mates.
Black-Penis-White-Vagina is the Official Ideal of the Globo-West. Also true of homos. Milo’s book DANGEROUS talks about he only goes with black men because he’s addicted to bigger penis. White women, elite and low, now feel likewise.
Why are blacks so threatening?
Africa has huge birthrate.
Blacks are protected by taboo against ‘racism’.
Jungle Fever makes white people lose their minds. I mean it even it leads to white guys going cucky and having blacks hump their women. Sexual hedonism is the core of pop culture that is the only culture, and this has led to worship of mandingo. This is why students should read Mandingo the novel along with Mockingbird.
Now, if blacks had same IQ and temperament as whites, their invasion of Europe would transform it drastically… but there would still be civilization.
But because blacks are lower-IQ, wilder, and more savage, they will not only change Europe but lay it to waste. Forever. Germanic barbarians were thugs but has the DNA to do civilized things. Blacks don’t have such genetic potential. They cannot be civilized.
So, while Pilger worries about nukes, the real nukings to Europe will be Afro blasts inside the reproductive organs of white women.
“…Hitler using it to exterminate the Jews. …”
Is there, or do you have, one iota of forensic or other scientific proof to substantiate this colossal assertion? Thought not.
It is people like yourself that, probably without much thought, propagate this Greuelpropaganda.
You need a better source of information; start by reading Lectures on the Holocaust by Germar Rudolf. Then, The Myth of German Villainy by Benton L. Bradberry. HdC.
Evening Mr. Pilger (although near midnight now),
I have bought at least two (I think three) of your books new, so not an anti.
Since this is the time of the anniversary of the atomic bombings, and later than the big firebombings, I just have a few titles to suggest.
From Japan, the comic Barefoot Gen and the animation Tombstone for Fireflies, re. the firebombings, there are many others.
Re. Fat Man, Black Rain, nothing to do with the condescending movie of the same name, I always suspect that the title of the movie was chosen to obscure the novel. Again, there are more.
From the USA. This is the Way the World Ends, the captain of a nuclear-weapon submarine is undead, but collects those responsible (also undead, as are his crew members) for a trial for war crimes in Antarctica. This may have been, at least in part, inspired by the Shute novel or film, will return to that in closing.
The UK also had a great comic in When the Wind Blows, and the BBC a great documentary and book from a title I do not recall, never saw the film, but had the book until it was stolen by a ‘friend’ who recognised its value as collectable. An upper-class arsehole, when I was overseas, he stole anything, almost all of my rare books in English, never let a junkie out of sight for a second, better still, immediate exclusion from social connection. Fortunately, junkies are very few back in Japan.
Ridley Walker, also good, hard to read, but a good novel.
To me, the most horrifying thing in the film of On the Beach is where Gregory Peckery draws his submarine up to a famous place in, I think, San Francisco, and there is nobody there.
Ava Gardner’s and Mr. American in Paris’s role as a suicidal car driver are pretty bad.
PAGING THE CHINESE WOMEN IN MANCHURIA!!!
PAGING THE KOREAN WOMEN IN KOREA!!!!
The RAPE OF NANKING…of course never happened…..
You consider provoking nuclear war a standard operating procedure and nothing “nefarious”, so you believe Christianity does not exist, humanity is about beggar-thy-neighbour and zero-sum evil doing? Therefore democracy, liberty, justice, freedom and human rights are all standard propaganda operating procedure to conquer, enslave and plunder for the victor? It seems the Americans are indeed ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘inquisitors’.
Not the Battle of the Coral sea?
good points, but how do you write an article on America’s belligerence and leave out the motivating factor?
if Putin said today that Assad has to go, and Israel can steal the Golan Heights, the hostilities would end just like that> *poof*
has Mr. Pilger any idea at all on whose behalf Obama and Hillary destroyed Libya?
or why the chimp destroyed Iraq?
or why the hysteria to destroy Syria?
I mean come on…!
this isn’t so America can sell cheap gas to Europe, this is all so that the world understands that it now must submit to the unilateral power. Selling gas is just ((America’s)) way of telling Europe that it won’t freeze to death in order to make Putin and Russia submit.
if you’re going to write an article lamenting the world’s insane march to nuclear war and leave out the fundamental cause of it all?!
One piece of evidence to support a belief in a moral, ethical, and caring Supreme Being is that we humans haven’t already annihilated ourselve through the exchange of the once
available almost one hundred thousand nuclear weapons. Look at all the nations that had nukes. Look at the likelyhood of some of them having fallen into the hands of rogue, terriorists, or insane groups and being used.
What is the probability of our being in the non-nuked world we are now in? Is it because of various highly improbable circumstances????? So will the same “Factor” or “Thing” that has stopped nuclear Armageddon continue to do so?
Pilfer’s communist world Idea died and that is why he like images of big bangs. Joe Webb
this is what’s up. AI and social media bots will do the majority of the work. it was field tested through brexit and it worked flawlessly. those billions are not for the military. have you guys notice a few new comers to this website? how they don’t make sense? :)))
guys, just do your bucket list. I have done of most of the stuff I want to do on my list. if I die tomorrow there will be no regrets.
“Who gets to be King? Milo? Won’t that make hereditary monarchy a little problematic?”
Why? Or are you one of those anti-sex-ed conservatives who thinks homosexuals can’t reproduce? I wonder who has more White children, you or Oscar Wilde?
you have an extraordinary imagination.
I have to admit, he has topped me in the ludicrous conspiracy theory sweepstakes. I would have never thought of one in which nukes are faked.
It even tops my “Titanic was a false flag operation” conspiracy theory. Back in 1912 the (Rothschilds, Masons, Bilderbergers, Bushes, fill in your own blanks) were preparing to start the Great War and knew that it would be hard to draw an isolationist USA into the conflict, so they were going to have the Lusitania passenger liner “torpedoed” at great loss of life to draw the US public towards war. Prior to the war as psychological preparation, they needed to soften up the public with a story of a great liner sinking, with all the tragic tales of the loss of life, feats of bravery and self-sacrifice, beautiful lives cut short etc. The people would have a few years to stew in this story, sympathize with the victims and be ready to react viscerally when another liner was sunk during the war. Obviously the Titanic was scuttled by internal agency. Just look at the evidence:
– It supposedly ran into a gigantic gleaming white iceberg on a night with perfectly clear viewing conditions all the way to the horizon. There were men on the bridge and in the crow’s nest peering out ahead and no-one saw it until they were on top of it.
-Before being launched the Titanic was equipped with enough life boats, but half were removed before going in service.
– Most of the original bridge crew, who had taken the ship on it’s shake down cruise and were familiar with it, were removed in Cherbourg and replaced with officers who didn’t know the ship. Most tellingly the third officer left the ship with the key to the locker where the crow’s nest binoculars were kept so the crow’s nest watch had no binoculars for the trip.
– No large ship before or since has sunk from hitting an iceberg.
– How can a steel ship be damaged by frozen water anyway? Note that there are these ships called ICEBREAKERS made out of the same materials as the Titanic that deliberately ram their way through ice with no harmful effect. To think ice would damage steel would be like thinking that fire can melt steel! You can even test this to your own satisfaction: Take an ice cube and repeatedly pound/ scrape/slice a soda can with it. The ice has no effect on it, and, the soda can is even made of paper-thin aluminum instead of hardened steel!
– The Titanic was put on a course that took it away from potential rescue ships, and the Captain was handed a radio message warning of ice but ignored it. (By the way there are reliable reports of Captain Smith being spotted after the sinking, and even that he went on to found a cough drop company with his brother. Just look carefully at the pictures on the cough-drop box.)
If anyone wants to run with this story and make a little coin selling videos, books etc, please be my guest, I won’t even ask for royalties.
Now I have to go phone the US Air Force and lodge a complaint. I am pretty steamed about the way they scared me into being really careful around nukes when I was in the Strategic Air Command, when it turns out they were all dummies!
It has always been the case that the missile launch capable personnel operate in pairs, both with sidearms and orders to shoot if one acts crazy. MAD. For every neck there were always two hands to squeeze the life out it. Mass suicide by self throttling seems less likely than by MAD war with atomic bombs, but the latter still seems to lack inevitability.
Yet Martin Nowak noted in the Supercooperators that intelligent life has apparently exterminated itself throughout the Universe. The Fermi Paradox mandates humanity being extinguished rather soon, because we already have extra planetary transmission capability. No technological life forms in the Universe heretofore have gone much beyond this point, and extermination by war being the Great Filter would mean myriad separate alien life forms all had something very like the nation states and ideology that exist on Earth.
Moreover, all these hundreds of life from ending wars can hardly have been between sides so evenly balanced that the outcome was mutually and catastrophically (fatally) Pyrrhic. I think the opposite of war is the culprit. World cooperation and peace with consequent rapid progress is a greasing the skids to a ineluctable extirpation per technological singularity.
There would seem to be evidence of some divine hand preventing nuclear war. There have apparently been more accidents and near misses than anyone realizes. Not sure if it would have resulted in WW3 had it exploded, but that multi-megaton bomb that almost fell on Goldsboro NC was, contrary to popular belief, armed. The reason it didn’t go off was that one solitary wire failed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests
That 50 megaton Russian atmospheric test was the largest but not the last. The Russians also own the four runner ups at 24…..21…..20……19 megatons
December 24, 1962______ 24.2 missile warhead Soviet Union Novaya Zemlya Test #219
August 5, 1962_______ 21.1 air drop Soviet Union Novaya Zemlya Test #147
September 27, 1962 _____ 20.0 air drop Soviet Union Novaya Zemlya Test #174
September 25, 1962 _____ 19.1
Check this site
http://mileswmathis.com/index.html
if you like really outlandish and total conspiracy stuff.
You will learn that, for example, Dresden bombing in 1945 was faked (completely faked, it never happened), just like the whole WW2 and everything else that happened in 20th century 🙂
http://mileswmathis.com/dresden.pdf
“So which sub-school of Neocon Invade the world/Invite the world imperialism do you prefer?”
I prefer MAGA, how about you?
Calm down – these folks have been staging such things for centuries. They know their stagecraft and how to work an audience. Even if CNN and Fox go 3D it ain’t real just because it’s on a magic lantern screen.
“You consider provoking nuclear war a standard operating procedure and nothing “nefarious””…
I stated that the military exercise being conducted was standard operating procedure, NOT provoking nuclear war. There is nothing nefarious about our Navy being prepared.
“so you believe Christianity does not exist, humanity is about beggar-thy-neighbour and zero-sum evil doing?”
YOU, not I, made this inference.
“Therefore democracy, liberty, justice, freedom and human rights are all standard propaganda operating procedure to conquer, enslave and plunder for the victor?”
Depends upon your point of view.
“It seems the Americans are indeed ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘inquisitors’.”
Replace “Americans” with “people” and you would be onto something.
Are we being hustled – would your government lie about this?
Eight weeks ago NKorea was sending rockets 200 miles into the sea – now they are nuking NY City – how did this happen so quickly? Those NKoreans must be brilliant. That is amazing.
Hmm?
Peace — Art
p.s. Is a false flag operation coming our way, inaugurated by the Deep State?
p.s. Are the NKorean verbal threats against Guam, a backing down attempt – an attempt to slow things down? Are they saying “we want to cool it?” After all Guam is not Hawaii or California or NY City.
sorry but the article was pretty close to 100% correct,read your history and shut off the history channel
So Rehmat’s a team? That makes sense Rehmat is everywhere.
The book and movie On The Beach were just Bolshevik propaganda designed to stampede the USA, but not Russia or China into abandoning nuclear bombs.
On The Beach was just propaganda, like all those Saint Sidney Poiter movies and Norman Rockwell’s painting of the little black girl escorted by federal marshalls to an integrated ( soon to be destroyed) school of the same era.
As far as I know, none of the Monarchs, European, Chinese, Arab, Indian or Central Asian ever wanted to destroy and exterminate their own people as the rulers of America do.
The Russian Bolsheviks don’t count. That was Jews exterminating Russians.
Isn’t Whiskey the guy who thinks rape is always the women’s fault? Or is that another 90 year old male virgin?
Men under Japanese occupation were treated badly as well.
Only Priss Factor could tie his or her black rapist porn fantasies to an article about nuclear war.
Priss should set up a black on White rape porn site. He or she could make a fortune.
“sorry but the article was pretty close to 100% correct,read your history and shut off the history channel”
Looks like another Russian bot.
I told Wally the following, the same answer is applicable to you too.
“You should say the “6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers” is questionable or exaggerated but not scientifically impossible frauds; in the Nanking massacre the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese had massacred nearly 400,000 just using Samurai swords and bayonets within few weeks without gas chambers, Nazi and its minions were the same breed as the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese, they were out doing each other in atrocity to fill their diabolic egos, killing “6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers” in so many years from 1938-1945 is entirely possible, otherwise the Nazi and its minions would be a laughing stock to the barbaric and beastly unrepentant war criminal Japanese.
The staff in the forum.codoh.com is the same tricks used by the Japanese to white wash and deny their war crimes and crimes against humanity by questioning the minute details, presenting false evidence, watering down events, outright denial, pointing fingers, accusing victim aggressively, …., the same morally defunct evil propaganda the American is using to wage reckless wars around the world on the moral high ground.”
milesmattis is a hoot. He claims OJ didn’t kill Nicole and Goldman. It was all a fake arranged by the CIA. Nicole dyed her hair and became another person . The EMTs, coroners and morticians were all in on it. The Goldman and Brown families did not exist.
It reads as if MIC sloppiness pays off on rare occasions (they took your money but at least let you live). Makes you wonder how many of those would explode over Russia, when the MIC spends so much money on bribing and marketing and so little on the manufacturing of its shoddy goods?
You are an endless well of Hasbara Zionist bull-chi-to, or if you prefer bull-shi-do.
Just like the NK nuclear tests today, the atmospheric nuclear “tests” of the time were much more a warning to the enemy than the need to test technology (although it helped). It almost makes you wish that the atmospheric tests would come back (notwithstanding the horrible environmental damage) just to remind the Anglo-Zionists of their fate, and it is probably not Dr Stangelove’s 10 women per man for breeding.
Killing-wise, the super large nukes were replaced with much more effective MIRVs (nuclear carpet bombing).
Thanks, I love this kind of stuff.
I enjoyed the idea that the palaces in Dresden could not have been re-built with modern craftsmen. My parents visited the abbey at Monte Casino after it was destroyed so I know that it was destroyed, and I have visited after it was rebuilt. Sure enough, the restored art and stonework are exactly like the medieval originals except that everything is brand new. BTW, it is kind of weird seeing these works with no patina when every thing is shiny, untarnished, and the original bright colors. Looks kind of gaudy like all those antique statues when they are reproduced with the original life-like paints.
I suspect one of the secrets to being able to rebuild all this stuff so quickly is power tools. Imagine how fast the cathedrals and all their artwork could have been built with the benefit of power tools for stone work, electric cranes, jack hammers, power drills, grinders and etc. Not to mention the ability to extend the work day through electric light or even to extend the working life of experienced artists and craftsmen thanks to something as simple as eye-glasses and safety goggles.
I suppose then, Corvinus, that you would be OK with China and Russia doing joint exercises in the Gulf of Mexico?? Nothing nefarious about their navies being prepared also, eh
Whenever Rehmat’s posts were right over-the-top ludicrous and I had been able to bring myself to look at them (only on UR) I used to make derisive remarks about his team of semi literate young men in Islamabad having got out of hand. I would like to think that this had something to do with Rehmat’s apparent retreat from UR though I am not claiming that.
I think tbe organiser may be/have been a Pakistani engineer in Canada.
I restored an 1870 house nearly 50 years ago and was grateful then for the technology that reduced the cost of copying the original joinery in window frames/ cadements etc.
What does Japan or its WWII activities have to do with THE claims of the holocaust?
I asked for forensic or other scientific evidence that would stand up in, say, a criminal court in the USA.
And all you liars can do is arm wave and pontificate on the righteousness of your position with synthetic outrage and crocodile tears. And nary one iota of evidence that would stand up in a US criminal court. Truly pathetic. HdC
“I suppose then, Corvinus, that you would be OK with China and Russia doing joint exercises in the Gulf of Mexico??”
False comparison. To my knowledge, China and Russia have never engaged in joint military exercises here, for that would be a waste of their valuable financial and human resources. Consider that they do not have bases in that area.
On the other hand, the United States has several military installations in the South Pacific. Moreover, there is a history of American-Australian cooperation regarding mutual protection.
http://www.defence.gov.au/Exercises/TS17/
Sure homosexuals can reproduce. Aren’t, for the most part, much interested in doing so. But then neither are most members of our “elite,” especially in Europe.
I’m unclear how a naval engagement off the coast of Oz somehow constitutes an invasion. I think you’ll be unable to find anywhere I’ve ever said the Japanese of WWII were nice people, or that they shouldn’t have been fought.
Good point. While the Japanese won that battle tactically, it was for several reasons a strategic defeat for them.
I guess you could say that Coral Sea stopped the Jap advance, and Guadalcanal was the start of the counter-offensive.
Also the fairly obvious fact that these exercises were not held in the South China Sea, China’s equivalent of our Gulf of Mexico.
The holocaust crimes have been proven in court, you are denying a historical fact 70 years late after learning what the unrepentant war criminal Japanese have been doing in the last 70 years. The Japanese like you can fool themselves that the war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace they committed never happened, but rest of the world never forgets those evil deeds, barbaric acts, sick mentality, wicked culture and atrocities beyond human imagination committe by the unrepentant war criminal Japanese and Nazi.
The West did not win the world by any superior value, religion or idea but by applying well organized violence, the Westerners often forget that but the non-Westeners never do.
You forget or just omit the importance of money, trade, markets, admittedly, like religious and government practices, not always infinitely preferable to violence. E.g. bribery and trade included the slave trade though that of course was not a European invention.
You are insane. I have read much and seen enough of the colour footage of the aftermath that the initial US occupying forces took on stolen Fujifilm stock (they may have copied it by then or from Agfa, but I doubt it).
Clearly not just a bombing with napalm incendiaries, also medical results.
If the holocaust ™ is “fact”, why are there laws that criminalize any investigation into this historical event that do not “square” with the commonly accepted (and fake) narrative?
In fact, in these “kangaroo courts”, PROOF cannot be entered into evidence, if it does not conform to the “commonly accepted” narrative.
The so-called holocaust ™ is as fake as a three dollar bill and should be consigned to the “dustbin of history”.
All one has to do is look at the fake “gas chambers” and the “chimney to nowhere” at that holocaust ™ showplace, Auschwitz. The design of the so-called “gas chambers” would have resulted in the deaths of the operators .
Any competent engineer can unravel the fallacies and fabrications of these so-called “death camps”…
“…The holocaust crimes have been proven in court…”
Which court, pray tell, are you referring to?
The two convictions of Ernst Zuendel after trials in Toronto, with which I am somewhat familiar, were overturned by the Supreme Court of Canada.
This is what’s wrong with the credo of the holocaust: Much noise, arm waving, and crocodile tears, to say nothing of $100 Billion in “compensation” by Germany.
But not a single item of scientific evidence that would stand scrutiny in an impartial criminal court.
Go figure. HdC
The real question is pronunciation– is that first o long (following common usage) or short?
“money, trade, markets, admittedly, like religious and government practices” all have been invented and practiced peacefully by other civilizations way before the Westerners became civilized.
The founding dogmas of the West are based on deception, and their history is on false pathos and insincere heroism.
The Europeans including their offshoots is where is now, still filthy rich (although always complaining), because of those hundreds of millions of people all over the world who were robbed and murdered, those who become victims of their very madness of colonialism and orientalism, of the crusades and the slave and Opium trades. Cathedrals and palaces, museums and theaters, train stations – all had been constructed on horrid foundations of bones and blood, and amalgamated by tears. There were so many centuries of plunder that the acts of looting the world for the sole benefit of the few, turned into inseparable part of the ‘Western existence and culture’, something that gets almost never addressed, let alone criticized.
welly
the smell of butt-hurt is strong in this one
if only the Western man had not brought his culture and technological miracles of medicine and science to the backwaters of the world, where they could continue practicing cannibalism and caste systems and human sacrifice
you remind me of the professional whiners crying about how the Spanish ended the noble practice of the Aztecs, Mayans, Incas of marching young men up to the temple and cutting their hearts out – to their own version of Moloch. We imposed our Western culture on these people!
the Amerindians would skin their competitors alive
slavery still exists in much of the dark continent even today
the photo on Bing today is of the contemporary Huacachina, Ica Region of Peru
a far cry from this
Are you really Chinese or a Rehmat franchisee? The Chinese I know usually live up to the Chinese reputation (outside those who go to casinos for pleasure or hoping to win) for having brains. But you gave me too quick reasons to give up on you as stupid, or pretending to be.
Your opening par. ludicrously misses the point and even so compounds the mess of your argument.
1. The subject, raised by your own assertion was whether it was only organised violence that gave European countries their wealth and dominant position – while they had it. I pointed out that there were other activities which were conducive to the same end (and I might have added the Scientific Revolution, Enlightenment etc. but maybe they have not been part of your mental furnishings). You do not seek to deny that trade etc was material but…
2. With total lack of logic, or maybe I should say sense of the bizarre you say others got there first as if China, Indian polities, Mongols and a hundred others hadn’t also used organised violence to kill or impose their rule on foreign people.
Then I skimmed to “filthy rich” and I couldn’t believe a contemporary Chinese person could use the words without thinking first of the Chinese billionaires and corruptly rich princelings who are the very epitome of the filthy rich.
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The way you are denying, no evidence is acceptable to you, it is the same behavior the unrepentant war criminal Japanese have been doing in the last 70 years.
The USA and Canada courts have never convicted the war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace the Americans and Canadians have been committing against the natives and around the world. USA and Canada courts are Kangaroo courts historically, they ruled unconstitutional laws valid and American laws have extraterritorial judicial rights, those courts are totally not trustworthy in the eyes of international community, it makes your impartial credibility claim of the courts in the North America laughable.
Anyhow the American led NATO war mongers claimed bombing. killing and waterboarding on the fabricated phantom WMD allegation as humanitarian intervention, they claim war is peace, chaos is stability, terror is human rights, your assertion is consistent with that moral upside down culture, after all it is American Exceptionalism, isn’t it? What a good model for the unrepentant war criminal Japanese to follow and deny their war crimes with impunity.
Your opinion is your opinion only, what you stated carries no weight in the international law and order. But your whine is consistent with a morally defunct evil society that fake news is way of life, even an elected president can be demonized by fake news and is on the way to be impeached based on the fake news.
you’re right about all of that of course, but what you’re overlooking as that today zio-America is a subversion of the values of the West.
America today, is a corrupt, treasonous abomination of the values of the West.
the values of the West are:
The Rule of Law
Human rights
individual rights
free speech
the freedom to pursue your own happiness any way you see fit so long as you don’t trample 0n other’s happiness or property
now how well would you say the ZUSA is respecting those values, as it runs a permanent torture camp?
torture is about as far from being an American value as you can get, but we are not living under American values, we’re living under Zionist values- that mandate that we be willing to murder, steal, torture, terrorize and otherwise declare war on the entire world for the benefit of the Jewish supremacist state of Israel. Duh
and so you see every tenet of Western values turned on its head and twisted into a diabolical zio-agenda of wickedness and hatred. Murder and theft. Torture and terror.
There are none so vehemently against all this evil run amok than the defenders of the true West.
Ron Paul has been our champion for decades now.
Judge Napolitano and Lew Rockwell and Ron Unz have made open dissent their genius, as there is no shortage of freedom-loving ringers of the truth-bell towers.
So yes, all you say about ‘American exceptionalism’ is all true. America has been acting like a fiend on the world’s stage. Slaughtering and destroying nation after nation, life after innocent life, and tossing all of its principles and hard won legal precedents and covenants into Moloch’s demonic flames of hatred and death and misery.
But those are not Western values. Not hardly sir. No, those are zio-values of ancient and eternal hate. Mindless tribalism based on thousands of years old murderous envy and a greed-lust that is insatiable. Especially for power. Power over the lives of others. Power over the minds of others. Power over the souls of others. The power to destroy nation after nation on a whim. The power to order entire civilizations to commit suicide. That is the nefarious power that threatens every known human life on this planet, and drove Europe to a blood-bath in the last century, and has every intention of doing far worse in this century as well.
So we should make common cause, all of us. Asian, Russian, European, S, American and African. Caribbean and Australian and Indian and all the rest. It’s all of us against the Fiend, and I pray we can somehow prevail. Because if we allow the Fiend to divide us, in order to conquer us all, our children will surely curse us in our graves.
…not opinion, but FACT, based on verifiable evidence. Your holocaust ™ “cash cow” os going down in flames. People are on to the holocaust ™ scam. Regards,
this is actually pretty good. and it is also still going on 🙂
Couldn’t agree more.
Western consumer drones, I suspect, understand that on subconscious level.
At the same time why would an average Chinese (or Russian….) drone…I mean citizen….be any different if they were in that position of “power and plunder”?
In their case, at the moment, I suspect, it’s not “that’s wrong”, but “we want to have that”.
Strongly suspect.
You should know there are other civilizations exist thousands of years before the arrival of the USA in this world, not everybody is like the American who claim bombing, killing and waterboarding on the fabricated phantom WMD as humanitarian intervention. Other people have their own values, religions and dreams that are different from the West, certainly they do not agree the American by extension the West is the final form of civilization.
you are making an assumption and projection at the same time 🙂 but I get what you are saying about how anyone would do it if they can do it, even if that is just base off of your own behavior 🙂
china and russia is at the receiving end of that, it is why they are trying to change the status quote. hell, they are the only ones who have the power to change the current vampiric system. who knows if they will turn into american clones. time will tell. but a multi polar world will always be harder to act the way usa is acting right now 🙂 there is that at least.
The native American civilizations were all cleansed by the ‘civilized’ adventurers from the old continent of Europe, there is nobody left to refute and rebut what the White has portrayed them in what you showed in those ‘graphical evidence’.
BTW, the hieroglyphics discovered in central and south Americas are just alphabets, they were not documenting any barbaric acts shown in your ‘graphic evidence’ like the proof of WMD shown by Colin Powell in front of UN Assembly Hall.
The ‘graphic evidence’ presented by you and the following facts demonstrate the founding dogmas of the West are based on deception, and their history is on false pathos and insincere heroism.
1. The bombing, killing and destruction brought by the West to the ME for no other reason but quenching bloodthirsty barbarism. If you would have believed what the West has documented, it was a humanitarian intervention based on the WMD evidence (though it was a fabricate phantom one in reality). Similar industrial scale crimes against humanity, crimes against peace and war crimes committed by the West littered through the history in the last few hundreds of years, such as two world wars, Korean Wars, Vietnam Wars, etc.
2. The Moors in Europe was completely portrayed and documented as beastly barbarian who were eradicated by the God chosen one, the White, despite the beautiful and grandiose architectures left behind by the Moors, and such sophisticated arts, architectures and literature were absent from thousands of years in the ‘civilized’ West between the collapse of Roman Empire and the Industrial Revolution.
3. Despite Chinese civilization has thousands of years of documentation and artifacts supporting its history, but nonetheless the West rewrote Chinese history for the Chinese, so that China could be turned into an anomaly of savages, a place absent of laws, hence the American and European laws can have extraterritorial judicial rights in China on the moral high ground despite violating their own laws and self proclaimed fair morality, that allows the Westerners to justify selling Opium as a fair trade instead of immoral evil act, murdering Chinese as offending objects have no legal rights, etc.
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Disclaimer: you are totally morally superior to me.
Having cleared the main issue, let’s talk.
I guess you meant:
..based on observing written history of humankind…..
Well, you can take a look at history and get your answer.
Or…..they are so……..different….better…….than any of peoples in power so far.
Looking how their ELITES treat their own people I have a pretty good guess.
That multi polar world thing.
It’s been all over for the last couple of years, but, I, personally, haven’t been able to find out how, geographically, that world would look like.
I’ve spoken with some Russians and, after lecturing me on a lot of topics, that issue always got kept elusive.
So….what is your take on that?
I’ll be more specific.
I guess that “multi polar world” means the world divided into three major spheres of influence.
Or, it’s simply everyone lives as they want and go merry along with the rest?
So, assuming it’s the former, what are the BORDERS of Russian influence?
Say, INTELLIGENCE and MILITARY ties (avionics, advanced weaponry, advisers, training etc)?
Or, to be more specific, where in that world, say, Bulgaria would be?
“The West did not win the world by any superior value, religion or idea but by applying well organized violence, the Westerners often forget that but the non-Westeners never do.”
Sure, but where did the ‘well organized violence’ come from? Inventions? Cooperation? Planning? And what religions and/or ideologies informed those attributes and artefacts?
Sorry Darin, but if you accept the moon landing hoax and the 9/11 false-flag attacks as confirmed fact, then you’re the dupe.
When you write something worth reading you undermine the value of the ideas and arguments, even the facts you put forward by the bitterness of your rhetoric and your overstatements. Even more regrettable on a forum aspiring to promote intelligent conversation like UR is your lack of historical perspective. (I say the same to those whose enthusiasm for what they imagine is their European culture and tradition on the face of it implies nostalgia for burning witches and heretics and cruel tortures and barbarous executions not ending till well after the Enlightenment had succeeded the Renaissance and Reformation).
I recently 0watched a bit of Jeremy Paxman’s TV program “Empire” and was particularly struck by his description of the Brits in India for at least their first 200 years. Of course “racism” wss not entirely absent, as one hardly needs to explain to snyone from the Midfle Kingdom, but the most common reaction was “intoxication” with India.
So, try this. Think of what Uber and the driveless cars threaten for taxis and the motor industry in America. Think of what blockchain and fintech may do to banks. Think COMMERCIAL disruptors.
And consider dispassionately which countries were first able to take up the novelties that a tiny country in NW Europe spawned with the Scientific, Agricultural and Industrial Revolutions. Why northern and NW Europe and not the Mediterranean or Orthodox Christian countries (including Catholic Poland dominated by Russia)? Why Japan before everyone outside NW Europe and the Anglosphere? Consider at a finer grained level Jews in Eastern Europe and Parsees in India. And why did Tamils in Sri Lanka so disproportionately take advantage of Britain’s education system?
See my earlier reply #90 which omitted @Joe Wong
@Joe Wong!!!
I don’t seem to be sble ro get UR to portray the AT symbol before “Joe Wong”
I’ve got to hand it to you, you do excel at obfuscation. Or is it impossible for you to pursue a train of thought to its satisfactory conclusion? Talk about arm waving and crocodile tears!
I don’t know what the Japanese did or didn’t do during WWII in Asia.
My area of interest is Germany and it’s supposed crimes of WWII.
As of right now no one I have queried was able to point out any evidence that would stand up in a USA criminal court of law.
It obviously does not appear evident to you but, the interests that have been pounding the Jewish holocaust propaganda drum since at least 1860 or so (this from the New York Times archives) are the same interests that have been pounding the war drums as of late and causing the messes in the Middle East.
And in conclusion: It was in your beloved and civilized China that unwanted girl babies were dropped down into towers to die.
Over and out. HdC
that is without any shred of a doubt :))) you remind me of this soldier I chatted with. he knows all the wars usa started all over the world is evil, but he thinks it is necessary evil because it is needed for american lives and living standard 🙂 that is pretty incredible coming from a soldier, most don’t think.
if you study chinese history at all, you will know they take some tributes and left most of the border countries alone 🙂 when their huge ships were sailing the world looking for civilizations, they left them undisturbed instead of slavery or colonization. :)))
why 3 only? india will be a force to reckon with in 20-30 years like the current china. iran could be become a regional power too. if and when brazil gets it’s act together and stop letting the economic warfare wreck it’s economy(never gonna happen with it’s current form of govt) the rise of others would actually make the world safer. the more powerful countries there are, the more restrains on unilateral action by any and all rogue nations. UN might actually have some teeth and legitimacy since it wouldn’t just be the UN security council bullshit. imagine 10+ countries in the council? hell, get rid of the retarded council and let it all be decided in the general assembly 🙂 I don’t believe in zero sum, for that I was labeled neo liberal. for I believe in the rise of others =/= the decline of usa 🙂
multi polar just means there will be no power that can act unilaterally without consequences = restraining the looting action. small countries would have actual recourse when a powerful country is squeezing them, they no longer have to rely on nukes/WMDs. if there was no terrorism in the world, I would recommend every country getting nukes. it is always better to rely on one’s self instead of others for protection. in this scenario, any country like bulgaria can be wherever it wants to be. obviously choosing an alliance over others will have positive and negatives. but there is no consequence besides the ones it chooses for it self. that will be my ideal world.
hell, I would recommend small countries not choosing sides and just concentrate on trade and getting rich. why become cannon fodder in the game between great powers? that is just stupid.
so you’re suggesting the Aztec temples were not built and used for human sacrifice?
Really?
no dumbass, it’s all being done to bolster Israel. Duh
that’s right! Saint Isabella! (no doubt at God’s side right now in Heaven)
your whole post reeks of ethnic hatred and wrath
if you’re the kind of person who the leftists want to bring into the West, I’d prefer we get busy with the wall. You ought to know about them, Chinaman. They’re used to keep savages and animals out of your civilization.
But then, perhaps it was the Mongols who did so much breeding over there, that they finally civilized the Chinese and made the wall unnecessary, eh?
Another option is that we’d have several competing regional powers. Those powers will want to increase their regional power. Small countries on boundaries of those regional powers influence would become warring playgrounds of that game. Rings a bell?
I see.
I see.
Thank you for your input. Much appreciated.
You are your own false flag, using the absurd as a distraction, giving the state cover by allowing them to call true serious dissent “crazy”
For the past two decades, surveys on the international communities returned the same verdict …..
murkka is the greatest menace to world peace.
Hardly surprising considering the kind of genocidal wars waged by uncle scam,
Ganghis Khan would’d be pleased the ‘yellow peril‘ has a worthy successor. !
Do us a big favor dude,
You go build that god damned wall pronto and keep yourself IN.
umm, what do you think is the whole purpose of Trump’s glorious wall?
I’m a white guy who lives in the West. We aren’t worried about keeping us in. The West is not colonial anymore, it just destroys nations and slaughters people for Zion – a parasite that has corrupted our governments and institutions. Duh.
so when you say build a wall to keep whitey in, you’re being disingenuous, because all of the hostility to the glorious wall is coming from the darkies (and Asians ; ) who want what whitey has and has built. See?
whitey isn’t looking to go live in China, in case you haven’t noticed. No. He’d almost rather be dead. Rather it’s Asians (and everyone else) who’re clamoring to get to whitey land.
duh
So its all the “joos‘ fault.
May be you should drop some flyers before bombing a village the next time,
‘The Joos make us do it ‘
IM sure it’d make the victims die a happy man/women/kid !
A hired killer is still a killer.
You need to be boxed in,
But ‘darkies must be kept out’ too,
Lets put up a wall all around murkka
Its a win-win deal.
No more whinning !
As you point out, war is irrational. Those who make war destroy themselves. That never stops people from making war. does it?
I believe in the Cryptoterrestrial Thesis of Mac Tonnies, and am otherwise inclined to suspect the possibility that the Earth is hollow, and inhabited by, well, what are basically goblins. And even I think you’re full of it.
It’s weird because Jim Morrison said the same thing! I thought JFK was gonna shit!