Trump appears to vow that he won't "abandon" Ukraine, whatever that means exactly. It would be nice to know, for instance, if "not abandoning" Ukraine means continuing to arm and fund Ukraine, but apparently that's still an intolerable level of specifics to get into pic.twitter.com/6ROAByooRd
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) December 12, 2024
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There is probably going to have to be some kind of peacekeepers in the Ukraine following the end of the conflict, because Ukrainians themselves are going to be trying to kill Zelensky and everyone else in the government and the whole situation is going to descend into mass chaos.
They still have all of these weapons, and they can’t be allowed to become a terrorist state.
Russia doesn’t want to do this job, and America shouldn’t do it. There is no one other than the EU.
That is, unless the US backs some kind of military dictatorship in the Ukraine, which would be the best option for all parties.
RT:
US President-elect Donald Trump has proposed that EU members send peacekeepers to Ukraine to monitor a ceasefire with Russia, the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter.
Trump ran for the White House on the promise of negotiating a swift end to the Russia-Ukraine conflict, but has been reluctant to reveal any specifics of his actual proposal since winning the election.
Speaking with French President Emmanuel Macron and Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky last Saturday, Trump argued that “Europe” should play the main role in monitoring a ceasefire and that no US troops would be involved, the Journal reported, citing “officials briefed on the meeting.”
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The hypothetical peacekeeping or monitoring mission in Ukraine would not be under NATO command but would involve troops from member countries of the US-led bloc, according to the unnamed officials, who admitted this was something they were not sure Russia would accept.
There is no such thing as a “US peacekeeping operation.” Whenever the US sends in troops for alleged peacekeeping following a conflict, such as in Syria, they are there to stir up another conflict (as they just did in Syria).
There is no way Russia would tolerate US/NATO peacekeepers, but the EU can probably do this.
The problem is that the US could easily slip in troops among these EU peacekeepers and start trying to turn the country into a terrorist state.
Needless to say, we can’t really take what the Wall Street Journal says very seriously either way. It’s possible Trump isn’t even going to try to end the war at all. Certainly, his Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, has no interest in that.
Just look at this video where he refers to Putin as “El Diablo Grande Cabron”:
Marco Rubio:
“Maduro no es solamente un dictador, es un narcotraficante, él y Diosdado Cabello, y muchos otros que se han lucrado de la droga (…) estamos lidiando con unos mafiosos que controlan un territorio nacional” 🇻🇪 pic.twitter.com/5xf51w0YUg
— emiliano 🇻🇪 (@ElPaisDeLaFe) November 13, 2024
(NOTE: I don’t know that he says that in this video. I don’t understand monkey.)
Russia won’t allow soldiers from NATO countries to be based in Ukraine. They might allow UN peace keepers. So either Trump is a moron, or else this is just theater to blame Russia when “peace talks” break down. I vote for number 1, Trump is a moron. Probably Trump is stupid enough to be manipulated by his advisors, who want more war. I don’t think Trump is a liar, certainly not on the scale of a Clinton or Obama.
The failure to mention missiles and aid to strike deep inside Russia indicates that Trump has no idea who is really running the war in Ukraine against Russia.
Or he knows but is forbidden to touch on the subject and by the end of next month he will be sending money and bombs to kill Russians.
Trump wants CIA’s EU to do his dirty business.
Hang the murderer !
The first
impulseorder of an EU Army, comprising largely French and German troops, will be to march on Russia and promptly surrender.Russia will probably just keep pulverising Ukraine just to keep out some putative EU Division staffed by Germans and French.
Peacekeepers are just the thin end.
At the top of this article, Michael Tracy favors the continuation of funds and arms to Ukraine. Does he want to send his own money? Of course not. He wants the government to take ours to pay for it all and then he can feel good about it.
A country that is $36 trillion in debt, racking up another trillion every 100 days and struggling just to pay the interest on the exist debt, is in NO position to give away money to others, especially since the US must borrow it to give it away and then send We the Sheeple the bill. If Ukis wants money, they can borrow it themselves. If no one will lend it, they can sell off chunks of their country to the wolves licking their chops at the sidelines in order to pay for it. If they don’t like that idea, they can quit trying to get back into the Donbass to continue killing off ethnic Russians, which was a bad idea when this all started in 2014.
Has anyone ever attempted to articulate how defending the Ukraine is in the strategic interest of America?
At one point, I thought it was about democracy, but they’re press-ganging young men and Zelensky is a despot who has overstayed his constitutional mandate.
To check Russian aggression was another popular meme at one point, too, but time has shown that idea to be baseless. The Russians have been entirely consistent in their limited objectives.
That leaves one thing. The situation is exactly as it appears to be. NATO is trying to provoke Russia into a larger war that will attempt to destroy Russia, and then the victors can rewrite history about Putin gassing Ukies in the Donbas.
>… Michael Tracy favors the continuation of funds and arms to Ukraine.
Tracey has been a massive skeptic on Ukraine from day one — he asks what ‘not abandoning’ Ukraine means because he wants to know if the grotesque practice of madly fueling the war there, without any apparent moral qualms or consideration of the potential strategic consequences (e.g. a possible WWIII), is set to continue under Trump, and he’s criticizing the lack of specifics — without specifics no one knows if the madness will continue under Trump or not.
Go check his Twitter/X timeline.
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{Has anyone ever attempted to articulate how defending the Ukraine is in the strategic interest of America?}
Yes.
The esteemed, right honorable Dame Sen. Lindsey Graham has clearly articulated “our” strategic interest.
It is in the strategic interests of US to steal from Ukrainians/Slavs the $12 Trillion (est) of minerals and other natural wealth. Why should thems Ukis or Russkis have all that wealth? That wealth rightfully belongs to the Anglo-American Empire. “We” deserve it. Manifest Destiny and all that.
[US-Senator Lindsey Graham]
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It is in the strategic interests of US to steal from Ukrainians/Slavs the $12 Trillion (est) of minerals and other natural wealth.
Because it’s better for people to think that you are merely corrupt and greedy, rather than for them to figure out your much more nefarious purpose. No, we’re not trying to provoke Russia into starting a nuclear…we just want to loot the Ukraine’s mineral wealth!
Remember ‘No blood for oil’ twenty years ago, during Iraq 2.0? It was better for the public to think that the Bush junta simply wanted to steal Iraq’s oil, instead of asking questions about taking out Saddam for Israel’s benefit and in preparation to attack Iran twenty years later.
Bailing out another ungrateful European country with American money, materiel and eventually our sons and daughters……NO WAY. Russia should destroy COMPLETELY the infrastructure of Ukraine (let them “freeze in the dark” ) until ZelenskyY and NATO membership are far far in the rear view mirror.
Is it reasonable to think of Trump’s “EU peacekeepers” as a hired army enforcing the expropriation and exploitation of Ukraine’s mineral resources and farmland by Black Rock, Chabad, and the oligarchs, some of whom put Trump in office? Recall that Jared Kushner is first and foremost a Lubavitcher, Trump a devotee of the late Rabbi Schneerson, and that Chabad already owns at least one-fifth of all the Ukraine’s farmland—the best in Europe, as a matter of fact.
Sure and Taiwanese will also patrol China to keep them safe…
Trump, the biggest jewish cocksucker of all smokes really hard stuff.
However,
Andy an article for you that you can censor as you like so much to do:
Now for perhaps the worst China shill of them all, Andrew Anglin. This midget may like the Chinese because he at least gets to feel like he has an average height when around them, but more likely he is getting paid big bucks for his CCP shilling. Could this be where some of his big bitcoin donations came from?
Almost every day the Daily Stormer runs articles about how China is really our greatest ally, and totally not really Communist. The following comes from Anglin’s “short book” on the subject.
As I’ve written about before, China is not a “communist country.” The average Chinese person knows nothing about Marxism. They have a very free market (much more free than America’s), where small business is encouraged. As I’ve written before, the fact that it is even called “The Communist Party” in English is sort of deceitful, and an exploitation of the fact that Westerners know nothing about China or its culture, including the total difference of the nature of their language. “中国共产党” is translated as “communist party” consistently, yet a direct translation, as it would be spoken in Chinese, would be something like “The Party of People Working Together to be Productive.” That’s how Chinese people view it. Even with their supposed “communist” connections to Southeast Asian countries, they frame it as a historical cultural connection, rather than one based on a political system designed by a German Jew in London in the 19th century.
If you asked a working class Chinese person why China, Laos, and Vietnam all use the hammer and sickle, they would say something like: “this is the symbol of Asia people,” and laugh and point at their eyes, then say “eat rice, eat noodle,” and laugh again. A more educated Chinese person might be vaguely aware of the history, but would claim that no foreigner ever influenced China in any way, ever, in all of history: “we make a big, strong wall. Cannot allow.”
Under Emperor Xi, China has become increasingly more traditional, and backing away from the kind of modernism that had been encroaching. He is attempting to reestablish a form of Confucianism.
This is the same type of argument presented by Keith Woods.
In his massive article praising China, Anglin refuses to cover all of the jews who controlled China through the opium trade, Sassoons and Kadoories.
Anglin definitely does not mention all of the jews who were instrumental in bringing Communism to China, which I covered extensively in a show. Instead Anglin just wants us to think about our glorious future living under the rule of the CCP.
The point is: everything is probably all going to work out. The ZOG empire is going to collapse, and the world is going to then be controlled by a Chinese merchant network, where the concept of “empire” is based on trade rather than military strength. White people will be fine in such a situation. Certainly a lot better than we are now, under these Jews.
Why are supposed “pro-Whites” and “right wingers” fantasizing about the day when we are ruled by Chinese men waving the hammer and sickle? What kind of dream is that?
As for all the real people, it’s our nightmare.
http://www.renegadetribune.com/chinese-communists-are-funding-steve-bannon-gettr-and-likely-nick-fuentes-david-duke-daily-stormer-and-others/
Got to hand it to him for his “This is not my clusterfuck” position. What the fuck do we care if CIA wins their sneaky coward war? Now if he just extends it to the dispute resolution too. For the broader Russia/CIA bloc dispute he should invoke Hague 1899 Article 8. That hands it off to seconds.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/jhtml/jframe.html#https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/ukraine/images/map-ukraine-relief.jpg|||Reilef%20-%20Ukraine%20Map
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/ukraine-topographic-map-3d-realistic-color-2259807823
I see tards mention these handful of Jews advising Mao in the 50s and proclaiming it as evidence that China is controlled opposition but sure enough the tards never proceed to postulate a mechanism by which Jews supposedly control China today. One can clearly see how Jewish influence in the West operates and can easily go so far as to point to specific Jewish media moguls, Jewish financiers,organizations, and donations involved. The thesis that Jews have heavy influence in the west, whether correct or not, is at least easily supported by discrete pieces of evidence.
On the other hand tell me, Sir Tard, by what means are Jews controlling the 100% ethnic Chinese power structure? Do they own the Chinese media and influence elections? Oh, they don’t own Chinese media, and there are no elections? Ok. Do they control the Chinese financial system? If you say no, ok then, if you say yes, where is the proof? Or maybe I’m beating around the bush and there is actually a Jewish army stationed in Beijing outside CCP headquarters making sure the Chinese toe the line?
If you can’t give any evidence then it’s all crock. There may well have been a haggle of Jews advising Mao three quarters of a century ago. Those Jews are long gone from this world and so is Mao. Xi Jinping and the current CCP cadres are not being advised by Jews let alone controlled by them. The extent to which Jews have influence in China is the extent to which any great power’s ruling elite has influence over the leadership of a rival great power.
The problem is that while Ukraine sits on untold wealth, it doesn’t know how to extract it. Up until 2009, Ukraine was importing Russian gas, which is like Alaska importing ice cubes. Ukraine’s former leader Tymoshenko signed a 10-year deal to import Russian gas at $430 per 1000 cubic meters. In 2013, Shell stepped in with another 10-year agreement. There don’t seem to be any Ukraine companies that can do this work, and the fact that Gazprom hired Hunter Biden should tell you why. Ukraine’s gangster mentality prevents it from developing into a proper, self-sufficient economy.
China is a socialist country, i.e. a country where the central government is in control, for the common good etc. Communism is a stateless utopia.
I.e. neither has a free market?
Didn’t Jews invent capitalism, socialism, communism, Industrial Revolution, Christianity, trade etc? Didn’t Jews move factories etc to China? Don’t Jews own the companies that buy from those factories etc? Don’t Jews control the world economy?
I suggest that Zelensky goes and fights for Israel -that’s where his loyalty is. When the Russians take over the Russian speaking areas of Ukraine, there will be no need for peace keepers. The majority of these people want to be under Russian rule. And I’m not talking just about the Donbas, but a much larger area east of the Dnieper River. Just for spite the Russians should take over Odessa and make into a Kike-istan. Odessa was always the Jew capital of Russia, and has never spoken Ukrainian until the current state of Ukraine came into being. Who are the EU going to peace-keep against? Who will be left in large parts of Ukraine to protect? The only part of Ukraine that is still largely intact is the West, bordering Poland. The Russians definitely do not want a whole province of Banderistis.
How much money can those Americans get. Money is everything.