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High-ranking Catholic clergy voted 168 to 28 during a gathering in Frankfurt, Germany to adopt a resolution recognizing homosexual marriage.
This statement is a direct act of insubordination seeking to challenge a Vatican decree signed by Pope Francis that explicitly forbids priests from blessing such pairings as a violation of scriptural tradition.
The German Catholic Church is powerful, corrupt and decadent. A report from 2015 found that the archdiocese of Cologne alone controls almost $4 billion dollars in wealth, making it richer than the Vatican itself. The German Catholic clergy has been prone to scandals, including a bishop who bought a 31 million Euro mansion for himself.
Pope Francis, who is the most pro-homosexual Pope in the history of Catholicism, has superficially remained steadfast on the issue of not marrying gays. Yet in practice, Francis has shown far more ferocity in suppressing traditionalist and conservative elements in his Church, which has cleared the way for liberalizing challengers such as the super-majority of clerics who have elected to bless sodomy.
Catholic parishes in Germany have been blessing same-sex marriages, often in large public displays, since last spring in spite of unambiguous instructions to stop from Rome. The behavior has continued unopposed and has spread to more and more parishes, yet Vatican hierarchs have yet to use their powers to defrock any priests or cut ties with any pro-sodomy parishes.
The New York Times‘ Catholic columnist, Ross Douthat, has written that conservative adherents feel impotent in regards to Francis’ tolerance for liberalizing tendencies due to their belief in the doctrine of papal infallibility. The German church’s immense wealth may also cause the Vatican, which is plagued by money problems, to hesitate to fight back.
New reports chronicling instances of homosexual priests molesting teenage boys in France have also put the Church on the defensive.
Though the Catholic Church has enjoyed a brief resurgence among conservative youth seeking sanctuary from the chaos of the increasingly morally depraved West, elite interests are rapidly wearing down the Vatican’s token resistance against these forces.
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This is the culmination of a long process. The original Jewish plan for the destruction of the German people (the Morgenthau Plan) was abandoned when the US foreign policy establishment realized Germany was a necessary ally vs. the Soviet Union in the Cold War (after the deaths of a paltry two million Germans). A different plan was then implemented, once again using Jews but with the goal of demoralizing rather than killing Germans. Legalization of pornography and prostitution ensued and the demonization of conservative attitudes towards marriage, family, and sex. Change those and a people will slowly destroy themselves without any mass executions or starvation needed.
Which is why they elected a BDSM freak in 1932. We did something similar.
I don’t think that the German Catholic Church is particularly prone to scandals. Only the traditional omertà has made way for a culture of mutual public denunciation.
Take the bishop who allegedly bought a 31 million mansion for himself. It was in fact a conference facility added up with personal rooms for the bishop (similar mansions exist in other bishoprics). The bishop was an unexperienced young man who completely depended on his architects; on the other hand there was a strong faction within the church bureaucracy (may we say the Deep Church?) which had not wanted this (rather conservative) new bishop in their (traditionally liberal) bishopric and used the opportunity to campaign against the bishop (by transforming a case of bad and costly planning into a case of personal greed).
“For a man to lie down with another man [as he would with a woman] is an abomination before God.” (someplace in the Old Testament)
I don’t see a whole lot of wiggle room here. I don’t think there is ANY other human activity that is so narrowly and so vehemently condemned (for followers of the Bible).
Homosexuality, which is to say MALE homosexuality, was the BASIS of (male) Greek society. Although the Greeks clarified that male-male sex was ALWAYS “between the thighs”. That is, a naked guy lays down. Another naked guy lays down on top of him so that they are, um, “whinkey to whinkey”. The guys then rub whinkeys together until 1 or both achieve orgasm. Porking the other guy in his back door was considered gross, and probably a crime against Nature, even by the Greeks.
Germans, on the other hand, routinely porked each other in the most obvious spot, and then went on about their business. I forget what Britons and Gaels did, but of course a guy can’t always find an agreeable woman when he needs one. I’m also not sure about American Indians. It may have varied by tribe. But females were not considered to be fully human, so porking another man might have been more respectable.
Matthew 24:15
“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand),
someplace in the Old Testament
OK – but I thought the starting point of all this eventually coming this route is that Christians chucked “the law” from the Old Testament a while back. Otherwise they would be circumcising themselves and not eating pork. Or do Christians pick and choose what to follow from the Old Testament?
EVERY single thing, in (((Christianity))), is jewish theft and perversion and mashup of PAGAN beliefs and traditions. Christmas is YULE. Easter is Eostre. “Jesus” is a mashup of Osiris and Baldur. (((Christians))) act like they invented morality – but they decidedly did NOT. (((Christianity))) is nothing more that Judaism for Gentiles. And Christians have done nothing BUT advance jewish goals, and DESTROY their own kind.
White Men and Women! RETURN to your authentic Pagan roots. The bloodthirsty and ruthless semitic desert ways and doctrines are NOT OUR ways. NOT our blood. Samhain approaches. The beautiful and mystical Holy Day is not merely a day to party and frolic and masquerade; Samhain is the one of the most important dates on the Pagan Calendar. It’s the Turning of the Wheel. Samhain is the day when the veil between the worlds of the Living and the Dead is most transparent. Celebrate, yes – but reflect on the course of your life and REMEMBER YOUR ANCESTORS. Commune with your ANCIENT Blood! Your only real treasure is your blood, and the blood of your forbears. You’ve forgotten this, White men and women. Remember! Sliante!
Oh, I don’t know… Ezekiel 18:13 seems pretty vehement to me:
lends at interest, and takes profit; shall he then live? He shall not live. He has done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon himself.
…there are many, many verses in the Bible about evils of lending and money in general, plenty more about the necessity of sharing wealth with those less fortunate. On the other hand, there are maybe 3 or 4 verses that could be interpreted as talking about homosexuality. Yet we hear about the evils of homosexuality all the time, and surprisingly little about the need to distribute wealth.
But don’t you dare say the Mass in Latin
What is the point of saying Mass in a language none of your audience can understand?
Whoa!
The Vatican has sovereign immunity that protects it from being sued in local courts over sexual abuse cases, the European Court of Human Rights said in a chamber ruling on Tuesday.
https://www.euronews.com/amp/2021/10/12/catholic-church-sex-abuse-claims-vatican-has-immunity-rules-echr
It’s good to be the king!
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Words of Jesus:
Not a jot nor tittle of the Law shall fall to the ground.
Other words of Jesus:
Pederasts are better off tying a millstone round their neck and jumping into the sea than facing judgment for offences against children.
[Somewhere in Luke]
Follow it in a Missal and you will then get more of the Mass text than if it were said in English. I loved being an altar boy and responding to the priest in Latin and also learned many translations. Then I had 9 years of Latin in high school and college. Catholic schools of course.