
The ADL used to state clearly that E. Michael Jones was not a racist. That situation changed on July 14, 2023, when the ADL posted a revised profile on me which contained the following assertion:
In his writings, Jones has claimed that his views on Jews are not based on racial theories and that he is “anti-Jewish” but not “antisemitic.” During an April 2023 podcast, however, Jones undermined his claim when he stated, “The Jewish people are defined by their DNA. They have defective DNA so they can’t help themselves but be subversive people.”[1]https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/e-michael-jones
On they same day, Jonathan Greenblatt opened the same culture war on the religious front when he tweeted: “The idea that Judaism is treacherous toward Christianity – including Catholicism – is antisemitic and false. Conspiracy theories like the ones E. Michael Jones spreads put Jews in danger and we must fight these hateful messages.”[2]https://twitter.com/JGreenblattADL/status/1680631883...181189
Andrew Torba picked up Greenblatt’s use of the word “treacherous” and posted the following tweet:
Talmudic Judaism of today is nothing at all like the Judaism of the OT—which ceased being a religion in 70 AD when the temple was annihilated as Christ said it would be. No temple, no OT Judaism. Something new took its place and was formed by the Jews who rejected and continued to reject Jesus Christ. All you have to do is read the book of Acts to see how the Jews who rejected Christ persecuted first century Christians—including ethnically Jewish believers. You can also read the Talmud to see all of the treacherous things it has to say about Goyim (non-Jews). Or simply look how Jews like you treat Christians like myself and @EMichaelJones1 today. Nothing has changed in 2,000 years. Same song and dance. Repent and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, Jonathan. This is my sincere and honest prayer for you.[3]https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/status/1680679614568443904
I then joined the discussion by tweeting:
Andrew Torba’s analysis has forced Jonathan Greenblatt to sail into dangerous waters. We know that Greenblatt is an expert at defamation. That is his job as head of the ADL. But to engage in this fight, he’s going to have to become an expert on Catholicism and its foundational texts, all of which support Torba’s contention that the Jews rejected Christ and persecuted Christians, and that they continue to do it to this day.[4]https://twitter.com/EMichaelJones1/status/1680717849...550466
This exchange put Greenblatt in a bind. Unable to come up with any documentation that would refute what Torba said about Christianity, Greenblatt had to revert to playing the race card, but unfortunately for him the claim that I held racial views was based on a lie. The ADL deliberately misrepresented my description of anti-Semitism as racial as something that I espoused, when in fact the context of the quote cited on the ADL website made it clear that I espoused the opposite position.
Here is what I actually said on that podcast. After my assistant Mike Bagiackas asked, “Dr. Jones, if you had a catholic definition of antisemite, what would that be?” I responded by saying:
It’s the original definition of the term, which is basically that the Jewish people are defined by their DNA. They have defective DNA, and so they can’t help themselves, [they can’t help] but be subversive people because of a form of biological determinism. That’s what anti-Semitism means; that’s what Wilhelm Marr was talking about when he came up with the term in 1870-1871. Because he was a revolutionary, he didn’t want to use the classic Catholic arguments, so he came up with this biological determinist argument, [but] it makes no sense! If you go to traditional discussions, Catholic discussions of anti-Semitism, they will say, basically; well, look, everybody, there’s a big drama going on here in Jerusalem at the time of Christ, and you’ve got two groups who are duking it out; they’re battling each other. Both the Jews who accepted Jesus Christ as the Messiah, and the Jews who rejected Christ as the Logos incarnate have the same DNA. They are indistinguishable from each other racially, and so racial distinctions make no difference here. So, if you were to say, that the Gospels are anti-Jewish, well, you’re right! You’re absolutely right. The Gospel of St. John is anti-Jewish, there’s no question about it, because it’s that conflict I just described to you. But whenever they say that, there’s always a sleight of hand that switches to anti-Semitic, anti-Semitic means racial, and suddenly you’ve got the Catholics guilty of racial hate crimes. That’s what has to be clarified; that’s the distinction that has to be made and we should not allow ourselves to be railroaded into a position we don’t take.[5]The comment begins at 29:35 at this link : Video Link
That, however, is precisely what Greenblatt’s ADL tried to do here. He took the racial position which I had articulated as the opposite of what I believed and claimed that I held the position that I set out to refute, in the hope that no one would go back to the original source and discover Greenblatt’s mendacity, or his chutzpah, in trying to pull off this flagrant misrepresentation of what I believed. In order to turn me into a racist, the ADL had to lie about me and say that I said the exact opposite of what I said. But it didn’t work. Greenblatt overplayed his hand.
Once the original video got posted, the ADL tried to back away from what they had just said about me by removing my original quote and replacing it with the following parenthetical statement. “A previous version mistakenly stated that E. Michael Jones endorsed racial antisemitism,” hoping that no one would notice their sleight of hand. Well, a lot of people did notice, and even more people noticed after I tweeted:
The ADL backs down. Caught with its pants down, @ADL amended its website attack on me to say “(A previous version mistakenly stated that E. Michael Jones endorsed racial antisemitism.)” while deleting some defamatory accusations but adding other inflammatory language. If the ADL were truthful, it would delete its entire piece on me and substitute a legend that said: “A previous version mistakenly said that E. Michael Jones is an anti-Semite. We apologize.”
As the comments on their Tweet made clear, the ADL does not apologize. They are in the defamation business, and the risks involved in that business involve a certain amount of damage control to avoid lawsuits—hence, their disclaimer—but legal jeopardy is only one of Jonathan Greenblatt’s problems. He now has to deal with the fact that he has accepted my definition of anti-Semitism. If, as he put it, anti-Semitism can be defined by the claim that “The Jewish people are defined by their DNA. They have defective DNA so they can’t help themselves but be subversive people,” then he is admitting that I have been right all along in defining anti-Semitism as a form of biological determinism. Proof that Greenblatt and the ADL accepted my biological definition is the fact that they used it to defame me. As soon as they were caught in that lie, they had to admit that I never held that position, which means that, according to their definition, I am not an anti-Semite. More than that, they have admitted that being anti-Jewish is not the same as being anti-Semitic, which means in effect that those who base their criticism of Jews on theological and not biological grounds, as Andrew Torba did, cannot be accused of anti-Semitism. Then, after bringing up the race vs. religion distinction, the ADL tells us to ignore it because Jones’s “hate-fueled rhetoric. . . makes any such distinction academic.”[6]https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/e-michael-jones
Not so fast, Jonathan! Thanks to Jonathan Greenblatt we now understand the sleight of hand behind the accusations of anti-Semitism which have been used to cow the goyim into submission for over a century now. Greenblatt’s admission is important because it paves the way to sue the ADL for its reckless use of the term anti-Semitism. Now anyone who is slandered by the ADL can point to Greenblatt’s admission that anything other than the biological determinism definition they tried to pin on me is not anti-Semitism and therefore clearly defamatory.
It also allows American citizens to defend themselves against the hate crimes legislation that the Biden Administration is now planning. In May of 2023, the Biden Administration released the first U.S. National Strategy to Counter Antisemitism, a document which President Biden claimed “represents the most ambitious and comprehensive U.S. government-led effort to fight antisemitism in American history.”[7]https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/0...sm.pdf The historical significance of this document diminished considerably in light of the legal disclaimer which preceded any of its content. According to that disclaimer: “The U.S National Strategy to Counter Antisemitism does not supersede, modify, or direct an interpretation of any existing federal, state, or local statute, regulation, or policy.”
By now it should be obvious that this disclaimer isn’t worth the paper on which it has been written. If Greenblatt gets its way, American citizens will go to jail for espousing what the ADL erroneously, according to their own admission, calls anti-Semitism. God, however, has used the Jews’ traditional blindness to lure them into a trap of their own making. In an example of what Hegel called “the cunning of reason,” we can now hold the ADL to what is now its own definition of the term. If they charge you with anything other than some form of racial biological determinism, their definition of anti-Semitism does not apply. At this point we should thank Jonathan Greenblatt for his intransigence. By not apologizing for slandering me, he has substantiated a definition of anti-Semitism that leaves those who are anti-Jewish off the hook.
Notes
[1] https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/e-michael-jones
[2] https://twitter.com/JGreenblattADL/status/1680631883049181189
[3] https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/status/1680679614568443904
[4] https://twitter.com/EMichaelJones1/status/1680717849583550466
[5] The comment begins at 29:35 at this link : Video Link
[6] https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/e-michael-jones
[7] https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/U.S.-National-Strategy-to-Counter-Antisemitism.pdf
Always say anti-semitic racism.
They want you to say ‘anti-semitic’
or ‘anti-semitism’ free standing
double-barrelled words
by themselves, in
order to conflate the concepts.
By
locking & fusing their own
creation/weapon ‘racism’ onto
the end(s) it drags them into
their own narrative.
Jones is half right. Most -but certainly not all- Jews are nation-wrecking subversives because of their culture AND also their genes.
Does anybody care what E. Michael Jones thinks?
Man of Dot is very engaging.
Hard to believe the ADL backed down on anything! I thought they were untouchable, able to slander anyone at will.
BTW, by definition i would be an antisemite, since I believe Jews are genetically predisposed to clannishness and paranoia. Doesn’t make them inherently bad people, though. Just something to watch out for, like the black propensity for impulsive behavior.
ADL is a racist terrorist organization aimed at denigrating and erasing White historical accomplishment.
I do, for whatever that’s worth. He’s a sincere, decent and intelligent man with something important to say.
I do wish his knowledge of Logos, which he mentions, were authoritative. I wish that through his meditational exertions he had managed — as Jesus of Nazareth did after forty days in the desert — to reach enlightenment.
I don’t know Mr Jones, so maybe I’m getting him all wrong. But the way the words “Lord and Saviour” are used in the Torba quote — and by ‘Christians’ in general — do give me the creeps. Jesus is not God. He was at times a participant in the Oneness (where he and the Father were one). But he is not the One.
Jesus tells us as much. When he is performing miracles he tells us that he is not himself doing it. It is God doing it. There is a science of miracles that ‘Christians’ need to know more about. One can, through kundalini arousal realise a state of miraculous presence. Jesus himself tries to tell you you too can do it. If you are in that state what you wish for comes to pass — by a natural process. (Physics has to catch up with this, but at least it’s heading in the right direction.) This can also lead to disaster, as with the children who disturbed Elijah(?) in meditation and were killed by a she-bear (presumably guarding its cubs).
By insisting on nonsense, that Jesus IS God, ‘Christians’ make it hard for sincere Torah Jews and others who are wary of what is mis-labeled ‘idolatry’ but is clearly demarcated in Islam as *shirk* to appreciate the worth of mankind’s great spiritual master, the one who made us conscious of the face of the One that is Love. ‘Christians’ know that there was something called the Transfiguration, and that it was important, but they and their art are clueless as to what it was all about. It was entering, through much meditation, into a state where one’s entire consciousness is pure Love, love-without-an-object, a face of the One. It can’t be depicted but it can be seen when one locks eyes with that one.
There is one sticking point, the one that defines ‘Christianity’, and that is a supposed quote where Jesus seems to be saying he is some sort of special gate-keeper, and no one can approach God “except through me”. The American mystic Franklin Merrell-Wolff mentions this as the one sticking-point for him in the story of Jesus. I suggest that the answer is available in the teachings of the Sage of Arunachala, Ramana Maharshi. You can easily Google his meditational technique, the focus on “I”. Through the “I” can one reach the One. Jesus was not beating on his chest. He was teaching meditation.
There is indeed a point of meeting between those who rightly revere Jesus of Nazareth, and those whose religion warns them of the grave sin of ‘idolatry’, the other Judaism than satanic Talmudism, that of the Torah, now itself mostly lost through the media-manipulation of the Scribes, but recoverable in essence through sincerity and meditational exertion. And recoverable with the help of beings such as Jesus of Nazareth, who is still with us and sometimes directly accessible.
You apparently care enough to comment under this post.
You miss the point of the article. E. Michael Jones is not arguing his thoughts, he merely points out that the head of a vile organization like the ADL was forced into a huge climb-down.
There is only 1 problem with your statement: there is no such thing as a Jewish gen. The Zios have been desperately researching this and have not been able to come up with anything.
Not surprising, considering the Jews do not form a homogeneous ethnic entity – there are European/Khazar Jews, Arab Jews, African Jews, Chinese Jews, Iranian Jews, etc. In addition, there are intermarriages, and, most interestingly, there are conversions.
As an example of a conversion: Trump’s beloved daughter Ivanka, converted to Judaism. Does that mean her genetic make-up changed with it? Of course not. Yet, any children she has (don’t know if she does) are classified 100% Jewish.
The whole genetic/biological argument is bunk, 100% bunk.
I care what he thinks, says, and writes.
Dr. Jones is an articulate voice who offers an intelligent perspective on a number of issues, some of which are actually existential not just for Americans, but for people of faith around the globe.
If you find out how the ADL got started you would puke.
Actually, according to Jones, biological ‘anti-semitism’ requires you to regard Jewish genes as ‘defective,’ as inferior. But imo their genetically influenced traits are, if anything, superior. How is not advantageous to be predisposed to clanishness rather than individualism? How is not advantageous to be cunning rather than guileless? Imagine if the average white took it for granted that white racial interests matter the way the average Jew takes it for granted that Jewish interests matter? (Regardless of differences of opinion on what those interests actually are.)
Well, that’s it then. You have defeated zog with the power of logic! We win! YAY!
It appears that genetics only affects the behavior of dogs and horses never humans?
Agree and thanks.
Political jews are simply incredibly sophisticated grifters. They use any grievance to extract cash from the silly, naive sheeplegoy
Let’s look at the history of the “Anti-Defamation League” and the primary reason for its existence:
The ADL was formed to protect a Jewish serial rapist murderer, Leo Frank. This Jewish criminal raped and murdered Mary Phagan, a 13-year old girl who worked in his pencil factory who reported to him to get her pay. Upon reporting to Frank, she was brutally raped and murdered by him.
Frank and his associates attempted to blame the murder on a black man, but was unsuccessful in his attempt to shift blame for his own criminal actions.
It is interesting to note that, normally in that day and age, a black man would have been a primary suspect and target. Frank would have been considered an “upstanding citizen” who, in reality was a serial rapist and murderer. Many other women attested to Frank’s perversions and criminal behavior.
The Jewish community, having much political influence attempted to “purchase” a pardon from the corrupt governor. When the community’s leaders found out that a “fix” was in the works, they removed Leo Frank from the jail and gave him a well-deserved “necktie party”.
Presently there are attempts by Jewish groups to “rehabilitate” Leo Frank, insisting that he did not commit the crimes, but the evidence implicating him is irrefutable. There are thousands of pages of court records that attest to Frank’s guilt.
The ADL is attempting to “clean up” its image before more and more “gentiles” learn of the ADL’s criminal beginning.
Sad to say, the “deep state” and FBI still support the ADL and use each other like whores.
“Do not believe the stories of the Jews’ (Titus 1:14). – Apostle Paul
Irrelevant. His point is that the Jews are not a race, which is correct. They don’t have unique identifying genes to begin with.
The people who call themselves Jews like to play a bait and switch game, claiming that they are a race or a religion based on which is convenient at the moment. Well, the truth is that they are a religion, but it is not the one you would naturally expect. The Ashkenazim and Sephardim aren’t Semitic in the first place either, they’re Japhetic, and the same likely goes for the majority of Mizrahic too, though I haven’t gotten around to check it myself (it’s the hardest one, to the point that they mostly don’t know either).
The word “Jew” further didn’t exist until the eighteenth century, as a sort of local jargon to refer to certain pseudo-ethnic/pseudo-racial groups. A lot of Christians unfortunately think that means that these people are descended from the tribe of Judah as Judahites, or lived on the land that belonged to it in Biblical times, Judaea. They think that because that’s the words the Bible used in the eighteenth and early nineteenth century, Judah/Judahite/Judaea/Judaean, Judaeans primarily being of the tribes of Levi or the half-tribe of Benjamin that still existed as distinct entities by Jesus’ time.
A lot of Bibles were maliciously and intentionally trannied during the nineteenth century, to replace the more truthful, distinct, and accurate words with “Jew” and “Jews”, words that had nothing more than mistaken/mimicked identity to do with Judah/Judahites/Judaea/Judaeans. Check out an older Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance, the proof is right there.
So no, the Christians are not a religious creation of the Jews either. The Jews and their scholar-primate religion did not even have their current tenets codified prior to 700 AD, so they are by neither blood nor religion prior to Christianity. Rather, a lot of modern Christians and “Christians” have been systematically led astray by the people whose only real inheritance and guiding light is The Lie. Because that’s all you really need to do to become a Jew, buy into the BS or have a recent female ancestor who did.
Modern Jews are magically matrilineal where the Hebrews/Judaeans were patrilineal. They all-but-unanimously couldn’t trace their blood back to the 12 tribes of Hebrews even if they had a bit (being genetically 80% Italian in general) since their matrilineal records are “conveniently” the opposite of what would be needed.
So, yes, people are correct in saying that the Jews (primarily the Israeli ones) are the leading anti-Semites on Earth, being both primarily non-Semitic and systematically eradicating the actually Semitic Palestinians and “Palestinians”.
I don’t care who you are, what you think, what you say, or what you do, you shouldn’t let a Jew pass with calling you an anti-Semite while they themselves are nothing more than a Semite-hating skinsuit of Semitic. I’m anti-People-of-The-Lie, so if I’m anti-you, why are you a Person-of-The-Lie?
Thank you. Who says that there are no stupid questions?!
Jones’ antiwhite bigotry is too much to take. He’s always talking about “the white boys” when speaking of grown men but would never use such condescending rhetoric to disparage other “categories of the mind.”
“Jesus is not God … Jesus tells us as much.”
Your claim is contradicted by his statements:
“My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36).
“All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth” (Matthew 28:18).
“Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58).
John 1:1 and 1:14 tell us that Jesus is God: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God … And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.”
The Trinity – Father, Son and Holy Spirit – is a single being, and that being is God.
Completely false. This claim has been shown to be utterly baseless at least twenty times in the past year alone. Anyone who persists in pushing this rubbish is not to be trusted on any matter.
You have also completely bungled the differing purposes served by calculation of matrilineal and patrilineal descent, as well as the uses to which each has been put. It was traditionally understood by all Jews and is still the rule today for some Reform, all Orthodox, and all Totally Nutty Hasidim that Jewishness per se is determined strictly by identifying the mother as a Jew. Prior to the development of genetic science, the only way to establish that a Jew was really a Jew was to witness a Jewish woman giving birth. As a certain queen of France said to her philandering husband, “Without you I can make princes of the blood royal. Without me all you can make are bastards.”
Patrilineal descent signified, then and now, someone’s inherent importance and status. In a closed society such as the Judaea of Christ’s day and of the preceding centuries, where the likelihood of a child’s being Jewish (as opposed to merely legitimate) was effectively 100 percent, who a given Jewish child’s male ancestors (i.e., acknowledged male ancestors) were was obviously of greater importance than the mere fact of Jewishness.
As Jews themselves perfectly well understand that their own sexual proclivities run more to the self-indulgent rather than to the faithful, it is hardly surprising that as living in the Diaspora became the norm, claims based on patrilineal ancestry came to be regarded as inherently suspect. All the more reason for a properly witnessed and attested (i.e., in writing) childbirth to be the only widely accepted determiner of Jewishness.
What you call Jones’s bigotry is nothing of the sort. He is instead showing his stubborn preference for the sort of particularity that was the common coin of all the fair-skinned peoples of the West until very, very recently. Whiteness was something thought and spoken of only by way of fundamental contrast with the Asian or African peoples one’s own people—the English, the Scots, the French, the Italians, the Greeks—were battling or conquering or simply regarding as so radically different as to border on the unrecognizable.
Jones is a few years yonger than I am and from a different part of this country. Yet I am sure that he heard his parents speak, as I heard mine, of German neighborhoods, of Italian, Irish, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, immigrant, and black neighborhoods, but never of white neighborhoods. Ah, halcyon days!
If in reply to this explanation, you were to say that it was time for Jones to wake up to the fact that the times have changed very much for the worse, I would certainly not disagree with you. Still, I would suggest that in adapting to the parlous circumstances in which we now live, there are few mistakes more injurious to our cause than carelessly falling into the habit of using the vocabulary of the (((anti-Christian, anti-white Establishment)))—including such terms as “bigotry,” “racism,” “democracy,” “equality,” “hate crime,” and worst of all, “anti-Semitism”—in a manner that implies that those terms communicate truth or correspond to something with intellectual or moral substance.
Not at all false. I know the etymology of the word Jew, likely better than any of the people you’ve seen “debunk” this. Jew, Yahoudie, Ioudaeos, Ioudex/Ioudice and so on, the points remains that:
#1: The word “Jew” was not in the Bible prior to the nineteenth century.
#2: By the time the word “Jew” came on the scene, it referred to neither the genetic or religious people in the Bible. It referred to foreign proselytes of a different religion that somewhat aped the prior.
Your patrilineal/matrilineal point is also irrelevant and does not address what I said, which is that the twelve tribes of Israel were defined by patrilineal descent. The matrilineal stuff isn’t even 600 years old, codified barely before the sixteenth century, educate yourself: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/601092/jewish/Why-Is-Jewishness-Matrilineal.htm. The Rabbinical tradition was codified, and assumed to have somehow always been the case based on a single point in Ezra where it was completely plain that some of the Judahite men had systematically outmarried with foreign women because of the bondage of their people. This is like seeing a solar eclipse and assuming that there is never any light, even though only part of the sun is blocked and only for a few moments. And no, “let the Torah be obeyed” does not mean that this matrilineality was from the Torah when it observably is not in the Torah. It also does not address the point of whether or not children of Israelite mothers and foreign fathers were considered Israelite or not.
Now let’s go in on the further grasping at straws in the article as it references Deuteronomy 7:4 where the rabbinical argument goes on one hand: “daughter’s son = son, because blood regardless his being turned from Me”, and on the other hand: “son = not son, because turned away from Me”.
Double dip, the rabbis themselves consider Jewishness to somehow be neither tradition nor blood, but either as it suits them, entirely in presumption that this is according to the Torah though it does not appear in the Torah at all. Worse, the section they are referencing does not say that the turned-away son is not an Israelite, it only says that he is turned-away from God, and the rabbis assume that to mean “not Israelite anymore”, meaning they consider being Israelite as something not defined by blood anyway.
Now, you could argue that being Israelite requires both the blood and the faith… but all of the atheistic Jews are still considered Jews, so observably this is not the case if the Jews are indeed the Israelites, since they can turn away from God and still be considered Jews.
Your assertion assumes its conclusion, that “because the modern Jews are descended faithfully from the Biblical Israelites, the Israelites also always used matrilineality to determine who was one of them and who was not.”
Finally, there is currently no Temple and there are no sacrifices, nor have there been for some time, meaning that there is no legitimate observance occurring according to the Torah, and if so then all the “Jews” are turned away from God and are–according to the rabbis’ own argument to assert matrilineality as traditional–not of Israel, nor belong to God.
This is why I say that a bait and switch game is played… because it observably is.
That is a stupid question that marks your as at best believing that whatever is popular and easily accessible is best and most important.
The valid question is: Should people care about what E. Michael Jones thinks? And the answer is: YES.
Tell us what YOU think, Dimples.
And that is a given, it seems rather obvious, whenever people have chosen to be truly anti-Christ. They then live lies all the time. They live and ‘profit’ by smearing and polluting, perverting, flipping things upside down and inside out. And all that hinges upon the perversion of language, which means that meaning is lost and then abused and finally denied by those wielding economic and political power.
An empire of lies. And that indeed is what Anglo-Zionism is.
The ‘Jewish Problem’ is not a genetic one. It is a spiritual, philosophical one. And the same is true of the equally horrible, equally evil, physically and linguistically much larger WASP Problem.
You have missed totally the spiritual reason for the Rabbis making their ruling. Which not only make sense, but is required. If you discern the religious reasons, the moral philosophical reasons, then you see in ways that force you to convert.
Let today’s so-called Jews prove that they are actually Semitic. I defy them to do so.
Thank you for saying that and I agree wholeheartedly. My general practice for many years was to write ‘anti-semitism’ in quotation marks, to signal my contempt for the Jewish attack word. I only used to make exceptions for clear-cut cases of over the top, unhinged ‘anti-semitism’ (which, sadly, are not that hard to find, if you look). These days, I no longer make even that exception.
Let those people who think this is in any way, shape or form an important issue prove it would make a whit of difference. I defy them to do so.
Reassuring responses, I must say.
What are you talking about? There is no “spiritual” dimension to Jewish practices, mores, or activities.
Obviously you’re unfamiliar with Hasidic tradition and spirituality. You are also unfamiliar with the very real arguments that occurred between the Pharisees and the Sadducees around 2000 years ago. And obviously you’ve never heard of the Jewish Renewal movement or the Kabballah. Why do Christians know so much more about Judaism than Jews like yourself?
What is most obvious from your comment is that you are an arrogant fool and a troll. Also, given that it is a long-standing Jewish tactic to accuse others of their own failings and crimes, your calling a well-known Traditional Catholic a Jew strongly hints that you yourself are one.
As I was one of the first debunkers, I know that you are talking rubbish. Speaking of rubbish,
This statement is demonstrably false. Moreover, it is so easily shown to be false that the only sort of person who would make it is (1) someone whose ignorance extends to never actually having read either the Old or New Testament in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, or English; (2) an inveterate liar; or (3) a Jew or an apologist for Jewish mischief.
This is a sample of what might be called the Juliet Capulet Approach to letting the Jews off the hook. In the balcony scene (act 2, scene 2) of Romeo and Juliet, Juliet devises what was then a novel method of dealing with a difficult practical problem: she reframes it as nothing more than a matter of semantics.
One might say to all of today’s Juliets that, by any name you care to use, Jews would retain that undear imperfection that oppresses and imperils the entire human race.
It is known that portions of both Testaments were translated into Old English even before the Venerable Bede (d. 735). No translation of any consequence has survived, alas, in no small part due to the assiduous destructiveness of the Reformers.
To the best of my knowledge, the earliest English translation of the full Bible that still exists is what is usually called Wycliffe’s Bible (ca. 1395). This is a link to chapter 2 of Matthew. Verse 2 includes a very familiar word, one that several commenters insist did not appear in any bible prior to the nineteenth century.
Reader, judge for yourself.
As long as the “right” continues to blatantly ignore the agenda of the tribe, which is hidden in plain sight to anyone paying attention – nothing is going to change. EMJ is spot on. God Bless him!
Yes.. plenty of us do.
A “well-known traditional Catholic” unaware of the disagreements between Pharisees and Sadducees in regards to the human soul? You’ve been poorly catechized, sir, but I do sincerely apologize for accusing you of being a Jew.
If you take a small amount of time to research Hasids, Kaballahists, and Jewish Renewalist, as well as the many different congregations of reformed and conservative Judaism that believe in the soul, heaven and hell you’ll see a variety of theologies. I grew up in Queens, NY so I may have a little more experience with our Jewish neighbors and their various beliefs.
The bear story involved Elisha, Elija’s successor: the story goes that some young punks mocket his baldness so like any tough bald guy, he had to teach ’em a lesson; but like a tough bald PROPHET he had to do it with supernatural style, so he summoned two she bears to tear some ungodly number of them to shreads. So let that be a lesson to you kids: whether you’re hiking alone in the woods or gang-mocking God’s servants, always play it safe and bring your bear mace!
If more people would realize that the original words of the Bible now translated as Jew meant either A) a Judahite, that is a member of the tribe of Judah (as in the story where Christ tells the woman at the well, “Salvation is of the Jews.”), or B) an inhabitant of the Roman province of Judea–and that the word Jew in the Bible NEVER refers specifically to those wayward Hebrews who brought evil from Babylon and codified it in the Talmud centuries after Christ–we could stop the madness of Christian Zionism and peacefully end a great many of the nation’s problems.
Does it make a difference? The apology only said EMJ was not a “racial” antisemite, leaving room, I would think, for antisemitisms of a different branch — cultural, social? At any rate, the apology did not state that EMJ was not an antisemite tout court.
This is a specimen of step-down patronizing and, as such, worth no more than anything else you have written. The idea that being a Queens boy gives you special insight into anything besides the layout of the local streets is a striking example of provincialism and unwarranted self-regard.
Back here in the larger world, I have forgotten more about Jewishness and Jews—including the misspelled category you cite—than you have yet learned. When I need to be catechized or “educated,” I shall seek out someone qualified to do so.
You are on IGNORE.
With respect, I’m afraid I don’t agree. The Jews have changed identities and “principles” more often throughout their history than I have changed my socks this century, and a distressingly large segment of the people they have suckered will follow them through every twist and turn.
Christian Zionists are, virtually without exception, sola scriptura dogmatists. Yet if the inspired words of the Epistles, Gospels, Acts, and Revelation haven’t shown them that Jews are the enemies of all mankind and the servants of “the prince of this world,” a few exegetical distinctions aren’t likely to bring them around. For Christian Zionists, “Christian” has become an adjective, a bit of dispensable window dressing, not the heart and soul of whatever spirituality they manifest. One might think that people who embrace the apocalyptic language of the book of Revelation would examine their conscience nervously every time they read chapter 3’s warnings about the fate of the lukewarm, but there is no evidence that they do. They have plainly forgotten—if indeed they ever knew—that “he who is not with Me is against Me” (Matt 12: 30).
I endorse silviosilver’s comment no. 33, and I point to my own no. 39 as well.
When you say he tweeted you mean he ecksted, do you?
We can all agree that Kissing Kike Keister is not Kosher.
@EMJ
Hello Mr. Jones,
some detail: it is hardly known in the Anglosphere that Marr indeed popularized the term “anti-Semitism” by his book, but it was coined by a Jew named Moritz Steinschneider, from whom Marr took it:
Best regards
I need to keep my comment numbers up otherwise I can’t agree or disagree on other comments.
TL:DR
Jesus Christ! I’m so sick of hearing the jews whine!
No wonder so many countries eventually expel them- If usury and perversion isn’t enough, maybe everyone just gets sick of hearing them bitch and fucking whine, all the time, constantly, in their shrill little voices!
If 1/100th of their bitching was actually true, they’d all leave every country and go live in fucking Israel.
Between them, the blacks, and the various queers, there is just an endless din of whiny fucking bitches, always crying about discrimination, bias, being genocided…
Honestly, who would live in a country, where you swear that you are the constant victim of harassment, bias, prejudice, etc.!?
Wouldn’t you think they’d all just fucking leave?
With each passing day, the Nazis make more and more sense…
E. Michael Jones, Torba, Fuentes and any other Catholic or Christian has got it totally wrong in their belief that if Jews just accepted Christ it would transform their parasitic, exploitative and adversarial nature for the better. The one thing we learn from history is that (Christians) do not learn from history.
The best evidence that conversions of Jews largely failed was in Spain during the almost 700yr Muslim occupation. Jewish conversos and Spanish Catholics regularly clashed and oftentimes violently because Catholic dogma did not and could not change the former’s nature. Conversion is a fool’s errand and the vast majority of Jews are hostile to Christianity and have no desire to be converted.
The late Dr. William Pierce said that there’s a nastiness that became frozen in Jewish genes and even though that is opinion I think that that’s clearly evidenced by history and even current events regarding Jewish interactions with non-Jews.
Jewish groups are trying to circumvent the First Amendment and shield one country from scrutiny. Norman Finkelstein highlighted the agenda in his book Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History.
The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance lists the following as modern examples of ‘hate.’
Likewise, in a Honolulu grade school in the 1960s, there were plenty of Japanese and Chinese kids, but no “Asians”.
Thanks for the interesting gloss. I hadn’t known that there was a measurable Chinese presence in Honolulu in the sixties.
I was in Honolulu just once in my life: six days in mid-June 1968 (R&R). Aside from seeing more Polynesians in public than I had seen before or have seen since, my only vivid recollection of that week is going to see Planet of the Apes in first run—not really an aspect of the genius loci. I came out of the theater regretting the waste of time and cash.
When I got back to my unit in Vietnam, everyone asked how I had liked Don Ho, and all were surprised that I hadn’t gone to see him. Oh, well.
Jews are ‘white’ so your whole comment makes no sense.
Most askenazi are primarily European DNA.
Jones has addressed both the historical and modern converso crisis a million times.
Good luck finding any American Jewish big shot who agrees with you. Furthermore, it is interesting (and revealing) that you see no difference between white and “white.”
As the comment you backhandedly dismiss refers to things that actually happened—what some people call history—complaining of the comment’s “sense” or its absence is an irrelevancy.
Not huge, but we lived near a Chinese neighborhood. I learned young how to tell Japanese from Chinese faces. Differences are subtle, but there.
A tip of the hat to you for learning to spot those differences. On a recent thread, someone posted pictures of three East Asian girls, the aim being to identify which was Chinese, which Japanese, and which Korean. I got three of three wrong.
I had a teacher in college who was born in the USA of Japanese parents. He was only six or seven years older than I, and after college, we became friends and saw each other regularly till twenty years ago. He always said—albeit with a wink—that Chinese and Japanese were easy to distinguish because a Chinese man’s face and bearing invariably radiated a self-assurance that one never saw in a Japanese man’s diffident face and posture.
I failed to click on Reply before replying (comment no. 63) to the linked comment. I apologize for the oversight.
ELON MUSK IS A JEW! BORN TO A JEWISH MOTHER & FINANCED BY BILLIONAIRE JEWS!
WTF?
Yep!
Google: THE RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD by Larry Romanoff
Taking things out of context is child’s play for a Talmudist of Greenblatt’s ilk. It’s a liars culture, words have no agreed meanings, context means nothing, laws can be twisted to say anything.
https://pathwhisperer.info/2021/09/10/oopsy-seems-ive-broken-my-word-to-go-all-in-ok-here-goes-i-posit-that-psychopaths-are-the-consciously-and-mutually-recognized-soulless-heart-of-stone-golem-slaves-servants-partners-of-the-tal/
https://www.winterwatch.net/2022/12/the-use-of-pilpul-to-cloud-and-obscure-issues-and-discussions/
So far we know that Dimples-the-Simpleton doesn’t like EMJ or reading. Anything beyond comic books seems to cause him despair.
From such terse comments, one could safely opine that Dim Dumb Dimps spends much of his time staring at the back of his uvula, so far up his fundament is his own pate wedged.
Folks like Dimples remind one of monkeys who pick up discarded bike wheels…wondering not just what they are, but how to eat them. Same as moneys’ bros…African blacks…who were similarly perplexed by wheels, never having invented them.
The power and purpose of pilpul is to deceive goyim by blowing verbal smoke up their nates. Jews having different varieties is like saying leaves, bark, branches, roots, etc. are different from “trees.”
Jews are like the mafia. Both use sundry covers, aliases, etc. to mask an underlying unity.
Jews of all stripes support Israel Uber Alles and refuse to criticize fellow tribesperps…who often act just like the Good Germans they routinely demonize for not opposing Adolf, Inc. early and often.
The same Jews who want tribesperps to be judged individually routinely talk negatively about all “Germans” and “Whites” and “Palestinians.” Jews think and punish collectively while whining if they get treated equally. The old “Jews cry out in pain when they hit you.”
Jews swear that Jews didn’t kill Christ…as if the Amish did! Or Buddhists!
The same Jews united (and created the ACLU!) to defend fellow perp, Leo Frank, who raped and killed 13-year-old Mary Phagan.
The same Jews also blame individual Whites for all the world’s troubles.
The fact that Jews want to punish anyone criticizing them says it all. What are they hiding? What might they lose if the Holycost is a hoax: Jews not dying from a delousing agent, but war-time dangers like collateral bombing-damage, overwork, isolated acts of vengeance, disease, etc.?
It’s high time that Whites and Christians unite and fight, take names and kick arse!
No one cares what you think jewples
Bovine Excreta!
Better yet… Make that Porcine Excreta!
Bovine Excreta!
Watch: Hercules Actor Kevin Sorbo Says Hollywood Blacklisted Him for Being a Christian
And, Kevin Sorbo is not the only actor or actress who has been blacklisted for being too open about their belief in Christianity. Most actors or actresses instinctively realize that the owners of Hollywood are rabidly anti-Christian, so in order to protect their careers – they keep quiet about their Christian beliefs. I remember reading an interview with the actress Morgan Brittany who played the role of Katherine Wentworth on the original “Dallas” TV series where she said nearly the entire cast were hard core leftists and anti-Christian liberals and how she constantly felt the ‘tension’ when she was on the set or commuting back and forth to South Fork Ranch to film episodes. She actually admitted that she was terrified of letting it be known that she was a devout Christian because she felt that she would be fired from the TV series.
Even in the NFL, as evidenced by how fast Tim Tebow was driven out of the league – shows us how infested the NFL league owners are with anti-Christian jewish billionaires. On personal note, I always thought Tebow was guilty of over aggrandizing his Christ faith and seeing him drop to his knee and say a prayer every time he scored a TD or won a game, I thought was unnecessarily grandiose and showboat like. Plus, sympathy I once had for his persecution quickly evaporated after he was out of the NFL and started squawking about how he would like to ‘adopt a child from every different race on the planet’. Tebow clearly does not give a hoot about his own race of people and has allowed Christianity to deracinate him at the very moment in world history where racial pride and solidarity among White European people has become critical to our survival.
David Jacobs, creator of ‘Knots Landing’ and ‘Dallas,’ dead at 84
I’m sure his Father Satan will have a warm welcome for him when he rings the door bell on the gates of Hell.
It seems to me that Jews are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
They are genetically distinct in that they inherit a slightly higher IQ — but genetically indistinguishable if it’s a matter of any less laudable traits.
Possible — but the opposite isn’t inconceivable. Why should Jews only be different in desirable ways?
All the same, one can select for certain traits; domestic animals demonstrate this.
To what extent Jews have done this — or if they have at all — I don’t know, but it’s possible.
That raises an interesting point. If Biden’s antisemitism initiative ever comes to anything, will they have to censor the Bible?
We could wind up with something like the Nazis’ ‘German Christianity’ — the religion purged of the unwanted bits.
How completely Jewish was the actual, historical Judea?
I see reason to regard Jews as never either restricted to Judea nor the sole inhabitants of it, but rather as practitioners of a religious cult that became distinguishable around the time of the creation of the Persian Empire and established several centers; Jerusalem and Babylon, among others.
Maybe Judaism was more of an urban cult, with related but distinct beliefs permeating the countryside around such centers as Jerusalem. Note that in this connection, Jesus is presented as a provincial heretic, clashing with the priests of the Temple.
Bits might even need to be added. I understand a few lines were added to Shakespeare’s The Merchant Of Venice under the Third Reich. It was to the effect that Shylock’s wife cheated with an Aryan. This made his daughter Jessica a Mischling, rather than a full Jew, and so her later marriage to an Aryan was permissible under the Nuremberg laws.
Actually reading both the OT and the NT does throw up surprises. I think most likely they will count on people not actually reading them. Even clergy…
Even selecting/identifying on certain traits is meaningless. Yes, notably for the Ashkenazis, the big nose, to name 1 example, is such a trait. But then again, plenty of Ashkenazis don’t have it.
Another issue: if someone converts to Judaism or merely decides to adopted Jewish customs and habits, does that suddenly given that person those traits?
Conversely, if a Jew renounces his faith/Jewish culture, does he lose those traits?
Comparing humans with animals is risible, to put it mildly.
Conclusion: the physical/biological identification of Jews is tenuous at best. As for genetic markers, there are none.
If The Merchant of Venice was tampered with during a 12-year period, you can imagine how much theOT and NT were tampered with during all those centuries of existence.
In other words, the Bible is nothing more than a book written by man, edited, changed, tampered with 1000s of times and has nothing to do with the words of a non-existing god.
Things certainly get ‘improved’ every time they’re copied over. ‘No, he couldn’t possibly have meant that. It was don’t stone the erring son…’ or whatever. And of course anything that’s too discordant gets omitted entirely. There were multiple gospels, and they all had to be made to accord with each other — at least as much as possible. And of course once you start translating, well, the sky’s the limit.
I’d say the Old Testament is worse. It’s simply every bit of Middle Eastern mythology the authors were aware of, all shoehorned into a narrative exalting Judaism. The authors may have been sincere enough, but to think that it accurately portrays events…
Even if there was a God, and He said something, we’ve corrupted it with time. That’s actually the position of Islam with respect to Christianity and Judaism. ‘Those are corrupted texts. Here’s the correct version…’
In the sense we’re discussing, human beings are animals. Labeling that observation ‘risible’ is…risible.
Before the invention of printing it was all part of manuscript culture, and copyists’ errors must abound. It is never clear what was the original and what was added later. For example The Book of Mark has a short ending and a longer ending. The Book of Revelation apparently has some significant grammatical errors in the NT Greek, but whether those were in the original or added later – who knows. It is possible the original author knew Koine Greek as a second language, had not fully mastered it, and it shows. Or maybe there were copyists whose Greek was less than 100%. Luther apparently had doubts about keeping the book in the NT. Yet Christian Zionists are more influenced by this oddity than by most of the other NT books…
There are also things that were thrown out entirely, like the Gospel of Saint Thomas — and, as some have pointed out, even what’s in the New Testament is hard to reconcile with subsequent events. ‘Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power’…and who knows how that originally read?
I suspect ‘Christianity’ was originally a congerie of semi-literate cults, sharing a notion that there had been a crucified savior, but not necessarily much else. Considerably after the fact, their various practices and gospels were reconciled (sort of) and made into what we mean by Christianity today — but I’m skeptical that it all began as a single, unified faith. Hence the format of multiple gospels. Everything that could be fitted into a single narrative was, and everything that couldn’t be fitted was chucked.
…It’d be interesting to know what the actual state of affairs was in, say, 50 ad.
…and how monolithic was Judaism at that point? Did we have the opposition between two distinct faiths that we have today — or was it more like the mainstream Christian churches versus some of the nuttier store-front operations? You”ve got your Pharisees, and your Saducees…and then there are those loonies who meet behind Elmer’s fruit stand…don’t waste my time with their nonsense…
I remember first encountering Jews, not the ultra-Orthodox or Haredim type, and being a little surprised that they weren’t all a certain stereotype in appearance. One guy was fair-skinned, had blue eyes and red hair – he actually looked more Irish than Jewish. In reality some Jewish stereotypes include red hair, for example English medieval passion plays would give Judas red hair etc.
Nope, the discussion is not and has never been about comparing humans with animals, you brought that in to suit your risible narrative.
Yeah. Netanyahu is a Polish Jew and he looks…Polish. Yemeni Jews look like…Yemenis.
The funniest example was when the Tunisian Jewish Minister of the Interior announced that ‘Israel is for the white man’ — by which he meant it was for Jews, who were ‘white,’ but not Arabs, who were not. Of course, Yishai himself looks decidedly Tunisian.
Inspired, I went on an image hunt through photos of modern Tunisians. In short order, I found Yishai’s long-lost gentile twin brother.
I suppose some Jewish populations do contain individuals whose appearance differs noticeably from the gentile norm for their country of origin — but really, any difference appears more reliably in behavior than it does in appearance, and in any case, a Polish Jew looks far more like a Polish gentile than he looks like a Yemeni Jew, etc.
Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Stamford Hill, north London, are often fair-skinned, I notice. It is often the more secular Jews who fit the stereotype better in the sense of looking rather “Mediterranean”. But even they often look more Slavic than not, much like Netanyahu does.
Roman Polanski apparently posed as a Polish Gentile when he was a child, during the German occupation, and basically he looks like one. Before his hair turned grey, it was the sort of medium brown colour that appears to be the most common hair colour in Poland, although you also get many blondes.
https://medium.com/@kmwalrath/a-visual-analysis-of-maus-the-impact-of-the-real-vladek-spiegelman-acf8cf32e40e
Vladek Spiegelman, the father of Art Spiegelman, posed as a Polish Gentile and even on occasion as a German during WW2, before he and his wife were caught. He had a souvenir photo taken after the war, in a clean version of concentration camp uniform. It is possible to see how he could bring it off – he looks a little like Netanyahu. However he often tried to keep his wife out of sight as he feared her appearance was closer to the Jewish stereotype.
I also care what he says and thinks. And he is a unique source of wisdom in this fractured world. Try reading his books.
I would add Sabbatai Zevi and the Frankists to your research subjects.
A tad OT, but regarding the disappearance of original European ethnic communities, see E. Michael Jones’ “Slaughter of Cities” about the deliberate effort to fracture them, and promote the ‘atomization’ of American culture.
So truth is hate, and…. lies are…. love? Pilpul, indeed, they are brazen.
whined Dr. Rock, like a jew.
lol
I said above, “he was at times a participant in the Oneness (where he and the Father were one). But he is not the One.”
He is sometimes speaking from that perspective. As when he says, before Abraham was I AM. And sometimes, as when he says it is not him but the Father performing the miracles, he is speaking from the other, normal, perspective.
Sadly, the knowledge that there is such a domain as mysticism, not to mention personal experience of such, has passed almost entirely out of the world of Christians.
Of course there is such a thing as jewish genes. You can test anybody’s DNA and reliably classify them as jewish or not. Such tests have been used to determine whether people applying for citizenship in Israel will be granted it or not.
Now that is very interesting. So, if tomorrow I convert to Judaism, my genes will change and become Jewish genes. C’mon man, gimme a break ……
Furthermore, there are Chinese Jews, Indian Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Arab Jews, Iranian Jews, etc. And of course the converts. So, all these ethnicities have Jewish genes? In fact, arguing this means that in reality the whole world is Jewish. Did I say to gimme a break?
Thanks for this detailed, comprehensive explanation, and apologies for my late reply — I had not seen you posted it.
When in 1933-45 Germany the Nazis called the Jews a race, world Jewry was up in arms to denouce that as vile racism. Today, someone who states that Jews are not a race is denounced as an anti-Semite, a joke of a misnomer anyway.
Thanks again for your support.
You might think so, but according to Jew law, Jewishness is pased along matrilineally.
The Old Testament is quite anti-Semitic by today’s lights. God had no use for grifters like Chuckie Shumer, Abe Foxman and Greenblatt. Their own scriptures condemn them.