The Jews have won every single battle in the culture wars, from abolishing school prayer to enshrining gay marriage in the constitution, because no one is allowed to identify them as a group

Oh, come on! The Jews didn’t WIN, it was the whites who SURRENDERED! Actually, the whites opened the gates and the Jews marched in with barely a squeak of protest from the masses. Jews write porn books for children, but it’s the white librarians who give them to the children. Jews write political porn for colleges, but it’s the white professors who use it to indoctrinate young minds with suicidal theories. Jews push abortion rights, but it’s the white women who kill their unborn babies. Jews push evil and dangerous racial theories, but it’s the white people who submit and accept these theories. Remember, the tobacco companies will stay in business as long as you smoke their shit.

Hawley had no hesitation in telling Garland, “You’re happy to deploy them [FBI agents] against Catholics and innocent children,”[5] but he failed to explain Garland’s motivation because he refused to identify him as a Jew who uses his religion as the guide to how law gets enforced during his tenure as Attorney General. Merrick Garland has turned the FBI into the long arm of Jewish vengeance which gets deployed against anyone who has the temerity to challenge the legitimacy of the Jewish sacrament of abortion, but no one was willing to bring up his Jewishness as relevant to the discussion, even though Hawley had no hesitation in identifying Catholic prolifers as the victims.

Jones, your first mistake here is granting ((Garland)) the status of “Jew” when he is not. Garland should be identified as a Marxist-Zionist crime racket adherent, and his many connections to that Zionist crime racket exposed. The man is so dirty, it’s amazing no one calls him on it.

The problem is that Cruz is connected to the Zionist crime racket, too. And in many ways, all of this is theater.

But I’m completely serious when I say you’re granting these ((Jew)) criminals gravitas and doing Zionist propaganda when you declare them “Jews” without the caveat that they don’t follow the Ten Commandments of Moses and therefore can’t be “Jews” even though they can be of Hebrew or Semitic background.

Do you know how easy it would be to throw a monkey wrench into their crime operation just by showing how they’re not really “Jews,” and showing, for examply, how they deliberately got Moses Jews killed in WW2 for the creation of “Israel” crime gang headquarters?

As an institutional Catholic, do you need them to be “Jews” simply for rhetorical and theological reasons? Do you need them to be “Satan” on earth?

This is how sectarian Christianity allows itself to be divided and ruled by Marxist-Zionists. This is why I advocate Moses-Christianity as the cultural leader of Western Civilization, an ideal that is to be recognized by law as having played a major role in its moral development.

The Orthodox Church in Russia enjoys a similar status now, and if Marxist-Zionist piss on the Church, they get prosecuted. For example, the Zoglodyte band Pussy Riot was convicted for desecrating Russia’s main cathedral.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-19297373

I’d like to see ((Jews)) and their stooges prosecuted and convicted for their Marxist-Zionist crimes, and in some cases, thrashed the way Moses thrashed them: capital punishment on a mass scale.

Here is a prime example of “lawfare” gone amok…
I can remember when jewish organizations that touted “separation of church and state” pushed their agenda to the extreme–instituting lawsuits against municipalities who chose to allow Christian-based Christmas displays on public property.
The lawsuits were numerous, from big-city displays to small towns-public displays of Christianity were outlawed. Jewish groups were aggressive in using “lawfare” to remove Christianity from the public square.
It’s turned full-circle.
Christian Christmas displays are still prohibited on public property while jewish menorahs are cropping up all over the place. Hell, even the White House proudly publicly displayed a large jewish menorah, without a squawk from the “(jewish-run) separation of church and state” crowd.
Jews no longer couch their hatred of Christianity in legal terms, but are overtly brash and confident in their hatred of Christianity.
While we are at it, let’s close down their most repulsive buildings, the American taxpayer-funded “Holocaustianity™ temples” and deport their acolytes who are perpetuating their prayers, damning and blaming all gentiles who did not “just do something”. The “piles of shoes” and “clothing”, “eyeglasses”, the obligatory replica Zyklon B canister and other materials mean nothing as they are merely “Hollywood- props” meant to evoke a response from gullible visitors to these “jewish freak shows”.
You see, “jewish suffering” is unlike any other and as such, must be memorialized by erecting these American taxpayer-funded “jewish freak shows”.
“Holocaustianity™ temples” have no place anywhere in the world as they are totally based on fraud and deception–two prime jewish traits.
Taxpayer funding of these “jewish freak shows” adds insult to injury and should be prohibited as their existence constitutes promotion of one religion over another–expressly forbidden by the First Amendment to the Constitution.
As a further insult, some states are mandating the brainwashing of vulnerable children by mandating public school student visits to these “Holocaustianity™ temples”–“jewish freak shows”. It would appear that requiring schoolchildren to attend “Holocaustianity™ temples” violates the “separation of church and state”.
It is long overdue for ((them)) to be kicked out of country 110…

The thing about this monumental fraud is that no matter how many books and articles you read, there will always be more facts to reinforce your anti-Semitic feelings.
For example, do we know of any people in history who would not be delighted to learn that they suffered far fewer casualties than they thought in a war that ended fifty years ago? Would the discoverer of such good news not be rewarded, celebrated? Would he be overwhelmed with heavy fines, would he escape attempted murder, as was the case with Professor Faurisson? Are such reactions not part of a severe case of psychopathy?

Why does the AMERICAN JEWISH YEAR BOOK, issue 43, page 666, tell us that in 1941 there were 3,300,000 Jews in occupied Europe?

By the way, does a corpse soaked in cyanide acid, with lungs full of this gas, not explode in a crematorium?!

Why is it that when a professor declares that the Holocaust is an arithmetical and technical impossibility, he is immediately dismissed! Thus, for the first time in history, the insane concept of a religious historical dogma is established, which, in the case of non-perennial worship, is doomed to be struck by the lightning of the Inquisition of a secular state.

Considering that the Jews have declared and are actively waging war on the white race, on the very foundations of America, such Christianity, no one should be ashamed to be called “anti-Semite” because it is a normal reaction. “The names of those accused of being anti-Semites are a virtual gallery of some of the most respected, most talented, most ingenious, most creative, most thoughtful individuals ever to grace planet Earth. So those accused of being anti-Semites are in some pretty respectable company, anyway you balance the scales. (M. C. Piper)

The late Bernard Nathanson, M.D., a doctor who performed 75,000 abortions, including his own child, was cofounder of NARAL and behind the legalization of abortion. He was born and raised a Jew. After an epiphany he became pro-life and converted to Catholicism.

As he was preparing for to be received into the Catholic Church and stand before the the baptismal font he said, “I will be free from sin…For the first time in my life, I will feel the shelter and warmth of faith.”

Dr. Bernard Nathanson knew he couldn’t enter into eternity with the kind of baggage he was carrying and knew there was only one place to get these grave sins absolutely forgiven. In the Catholic Church, in the confessional.

As in his previous essay, E Michael Jones misses the forest for the trees. He is fixed with clarity on the cultural decay in the United States with cloaked Jews as the cause. Unfortunately he fails to see that the only deterrent to the cause—the Catholic Church—has already been subdued by the Jews or their proxies those in 1970.

Jones wrote:

The Catholic Church, the Jews’ main opponent in the culture wars, has been crippled in its efforts to uphold the moral order because it cannot address the Jewish Question.

Crippled by whom, why and when? Jones doesn’t answer and I’m not sure he cares because the study of Jewish influence is his livelihood. E. Michael Jones sees a dangerous Jew hiding under every rock except those rocks in and around Rome. The Catholic Church has not been crippled, it has abandoned its efforts against the harm caused by Jews—officially since the 1970—with the promulgation of the Vatican II Constitutions and the destruction of the Pius V Mass. The Church likely began abdicating those responsibilities up to two decades earlier. Jones pointed out in the introduction to Volume I of his, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit that the Catholic Church beginning with Pope Gregory the Great (AD 540-604) codified its response to the revolutionary Jewish rejection of Christ (and all that entailed) as sicut Judaeis non:

that is, no one has the right to harm Jews or disrupt their worship services, but the Jews have, likewise, no right to corrupt the faith or morals of Christians or subvert Christian societies

According to Jones “sicut Judaeis non” was affirmed by almost every Pope after Gregory the Great. I doubt it has been uttered by any Pope after Pius XII; or uttered at any parish Mass since 1970; or found in the body of any Letter from the Bishop to his dioceses; or in any proclamation from the Vatican after 1970. And there is good reason why the Catholic Church abandoned its duty—-a number of heresies in the Vatican II Constitutions.

Jones wrote:

Nowhere is that more evident than in the battle over abortion. Catholic politicians could strive to ban abortion, but they were held back in their efforts by American bishops who crippled politicians in their effort to identify the enemy by claiming in their catechism that the Mosaic covenant is eternally valid, until Robert Sungenis, in an article in Culture Wars, reminded them that this claim was heretical, and they removed it. Like Wiley Coyote running off a cliff, the doctrine remains in place long after the doctrinal foundation supporting it has disappeared.

With that kind of power Cultures Wars and Sungenis should have been able to halt and reverse 53 years of Catholic Church decline. The JPII Catechism previously read “Thus the covenant that God made with the Jewish people through Moses remains eternally valid for them.” Pretty clear and unequivocal. The subsequent change to the Catechism now reads, “To the Jewish people, whom God first chose to hear his Word, ‘belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ.” This is ambiguous word salad. I’m not sure I’d report that the Vatican or the UCCB were particularly repentant. Furthermore Jones fails to point that these sort of heresies are a logical consequence of the Vatican II Decrees on Ecumenism and Non-Christian Religions.

Jones wrote:

Joseph Ratzinger, as I pointed out in my review of his posthumous book which appeared in last month’s Culture Wars, hectored us from the grave by claiming that Jews and Catholics shared the same morality. Ratzinger’s error became obvious in the wake of the Dobbs decision, but the damage he inflicted on the Church by prohibiting any discussion of the Jewish question continued to trouble the Church, not only in her defense of the moral law but in the even more fundamental issue of evangelization as well.

But Ratzinger is simply being consistent with the magisterium of Vatican II:
“Since Christians and Jews have such a common spiritual heritage, this sacred Council wishes to encourage further mutual understanding and appreciation.” (Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions Nostra Aetate, paragraph 4).
And:
“It is true that the Church is the new people of God, yet the Jews should not be spoken of as rejected or accursed as if this is followed from Holy Scripture.” (Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religious Nostra Aetate, paragraph 4).

E. Michael Jones demonstrates the evil influences of the Jews yet the Vatican II Church won’t hear of it. Vatican II has wiped the memory of Pope Gregory the Great and his “sicut Judaeis non.” Jones is blind to this and ignorantly bashes the Traditionalists for pointing these heresies out.

Jones wrote:

Conspicuous by its absence from Barron’s response was any mention of the sacrament of Baptism, which the Catholic Catechism defines as “necessary for salvation.” Instead of bloviating about Vatican II, Bishop Barron should have responded with a question of his own along the lines of “Ben, are you baptized?” To which, Shapiro would have answered “No,” at which point Barron should have responded by saying that “If you refuse to be baptized, you cannot be saved.”

Jones has been so focused on the Jews that he doesn’t even realize what’s happened in his own Church since 1970. The Magisterium Jones speaks of has been gone from Church conscience since 1970. Baron is doing nothing, more or less, than every other loyal Vatican II prelate; he’s professing Vatican II Constitution heresy. If Jones actually listened to Fatimists, Traditionalists and Pius V Mass devotees instead of bashing them he might be aware.

Jones wrote:

This is the essence of evangelization, and there is no way around it. When Peter addressed the Jews after the Holy Spirit descended on the apostles at Pentecost, the first words out of his mouth in addressing the Jews were “You killed Christ.” “Cut to the heart” by Peter’s rebuke, the Jews asked, “What must we do to be saved?” and Peter told them “You must be baptized.”

One can only conclude that Jones been hiding under one of the rocks with the rascally Jews. The Vatican II decree on ecumenism did away with evangelism; this includes the Jews. This decree effectively teaches that heretical and schismatic sects are a means to salvation. Albeit a less perfect means than the Vatican II Church but a means nonetheless. And that the Vatican II Church longs for the time when all these heretical/schismatic churches will come together to form some universal church. But before Vatican II the Catholic Church was the Universal Church of Christ—whole and complete.

I suggest that Jones pull the beam out of his own eye before he . . .

Joe Biden is a good Catholic and will ensure the Magisterium running the EU & Washington DC will fulfil the third secret of Fatima and convert Russia to the One True Faith.

Although Hitler, Franco, Mussolini, Biggie Brzezinski and Dr Joe Mengele were good Catholics now fallen from Grace – their successors are legion and still share a higher loyalty – General Milley, Lloyd Austin, John Brennan, John Roberts, Emmanuel Macron, Nancy Pelosi, Dr Fauci, Samantha Power, Ursula von der Leyen, Charles Michel, Jim Comey, Bill Barr and John Kerry will keep the Faith.

Soon America will be a Holy Land like Paraguay where the middle class, money, schools, hospitals, hygiene and law enforcement are unnecessary to Salvation.

Fr. Barron has always been a people pleaser, especially the media and the Jews. Judas Iscariot Jr, that’s who and what he is and always has been.

I agree with you, but you are not specific. Namely, you are talking about WASP under the term of “white people”. Regardless, the influence/yoke of Jewish culture on Christian America is approaching but it is not yet at the Jewish Bolshevism level in Russia – burning churches, eliminating clergy.

Are you sure about Brzezinski…was he not a funny hat disciple?

How hypocrite, these white useful idiots were first ((conditioned)) to serve as secondary subversive agents.
On the other hand, it is true that if all these stupid, submissive, incult, naive whites didn’t exist, the tribe would have had no other choice than to go and sow chaos elsewhere.

This is why Christianity has become a joke, 75,000 murders of innocents (almost the equivalent of the victims of Hiroshima!) and automatic forgiveness by only bothering to appear in a church. This Nathanson story has always made me very uncomfortable.
I know that theology teaches that the worst sinners can be forgiven but still…in the Middle Ages this Jew would have suffered the worst torments in public, before being baptized in extremis and promised to eons and eons of the worst sufferings in purgatory before – maybe – just maybe – being forgiven.

Dr. Jones does address the issue of Vatican II extensively in his book “ The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit”, but contrary to Dr. Michael Hoffman who categorically puts the deficiencies of Vatican II squarely on the Catholic Prelates and the Pope in his book “ The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, Dr. Jones goes extensively into the machinations of Jews that forced the Catholic Church to concede what she has never meant to.

It would be interesting to watch a debate between those two Catholic intellectual giants about the issue of Vatican II.

Thanks for your elaborate and erudite post.

The whites did not surrender. The WASPs very quickly after taking full control of what had not that long before been a well working Catholic kingdom, made financial alliance with international Jewry. From then on, WASP (Wealthy Anglo-Saxon) culture has been walking hand in hand with Jewish culture.

‘Whites’ accept the inevitable cultural and moral results because they are ruled by WASPs, whose financial alliance with Jews goes back to the 17th century and was necessary to every phase of growth in British Empire and then Yankee empire. Ideas Have. Consequences, and so do business deals. What we are living in is the nearly reached stage of total perversion of Anglo-Zionism. Merry ole England, Catholic England, has been turned inside out and upside down, made increasingly Satanic, by its replacement: WASP culture.

‘Whites’ gently follow what Jewish revolutionary minds want them to because they are accepting the dictates of the Elites of the Anglosphere. They are just being good citizens of what virtually none of them even faintly realize is Anglo-Zionist, perverted, globally imperialistic replacement of Christendom and Catholicism.

Your conclusion on tobacco companies makes the point about your lack of perception what is going on how. No group made war on tobacco more than Jews, also the group that intellectually and financially did the most to legalize marijuana. Tobacco is a nearly harmless weed compared to marijuana, but tobacco was located in the most conservative region of the country and therefore associated with things the Elites wanted destroyed. So they made certain the nation would make hysterical war against tobacco while embracing dope.

Always most interesting in a Jones piece is how he can see the nefarious Jewish influence in all the places it exists except Vatican II and the Catholic Church since that time. The Church stands impotent, or worse, on the wrong side, in these latter days of final push to total perversion precisely Vatican II has facilitated just that.

Levantine wrote:

Dr. Jones does address the issue of Vatican II extensively in his book “ The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit”, but contrary to Dr. Michael Hoffman who categorically puts the deficiencies of Vatican II squarely on the Catholic Prelates and the Pope in his book “ The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, Dr. Jones goes extensively into the machinations of Jews that forced the Catholic Church to concede what she has never meant to.

I’ve only waded through Vol I of Jones’, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit so I’ll be very interested in reading his reaction to the Vatican II Constitutions. However, a sampling of some of his more current essays found in his “Culture Wars” magazine and here in the Unz Review show that he can’t even bring himself to mention the word “Vatican II” as the unmistakable result of harmful Jewish influence on the Church.

Since 1970 the Vatican II Constitutions and the Novus Ordo Service represent the church’s new “magisterium” wherein it abandoned most of its missions held for the previous 1900 years—-not the least of which was vigilance against the Jews. The Vatican II heretical decrees on ecumenism and other religions indicate that Church ceased believing it was “catholic;” that is, the universal Church of Christ. Since 1970 the Vatican II church only “longed” for the day when all the other faiths of the world (which it claims are also paths to salvation) will come together to form the universal church. This is heresy. How could such Constitutions and the Novus Ordo Service be promulgated unless the Church had already be infiltrated? For crying out loud Pope Paul VI practically boasted that he had let the smoke of satan into the Church. My point is that outside, “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit,” Jones holds his hands over his eyes, ears and mouth.

Not only does Jones play the part of the three iconic monkeys with regard to Jewish infiltration of the Catholic Church he bashes the Fatimists, the Traditionalists and the Pius V Mass devotees who would point these problems out. For the man that considers himself the Jewish Hunter par excellence he refuses to see Jewish fingerprints on the Vatican II Church. He accuses Ratzinger and Baron of “personal” failing, for example, but seems completely ignorant that they were both simply faithfully following the Vatican II Constitutions. I can only conclude that whatever criticisms Jones may have made about Vatican II in his The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit he has relegated them to the dustbin of history.

For the very few Catholics left who haven’t been Judaized by the Vatican II Constitutions and the Novus Ordo Service Jones is a danger. He misrepresents the likes of Ratzinger and Baron as misguided Catholics instead of what they actually are—–faithful followers of the Vatican II Church.

“but it is not yet at the Jewish Bolshevism level in Russia – burning churches, eliminating clergy.”

Well they may not be burning the churches — yet (they’ll make the Muslims do that for them, or better yet, just turn them into mosques and immigrant service centers) — but they certainly have eliminated most of the clergy. Not by shooting them or skinning them alive, as in Bolshevik Terror days, but simply through brainwashing: turning them into soft-handed gay-adjacent (when not literally gay) preachers of a vague bien-pensant pudding-like ideology rather than being the custodians and spreaders of the Gospel.

Mission accomplished, no shots fired. This is modern Soft Bolshevism: soften up a populace to the point where you can literally genocide them without killing them, just by filling their countries with unarmed invading foreign paupers, women and children, who are every bit as deadly as machine guns, but the people are naturally incapable of firing back. Imagine an entire civilization destroyed, because they were afraid to be called a naughty name.

But have no fear: once the demographic tipping point has been firmly irrevocably reached and there is no way back, you can be sure the knives will come out and the camps will be open for business. They wouldn’t miss out on that part for the world.

You have some good points, but I find a contradiction between “The whites are softly following what the Jewish revolutionaries want them to do because they accept the dictates of the Anglosphere elites” and “The whites did not surrender. “. It’s like saying, “Yes, we conceded defeat, we are disarmed, but we have not surrendered.”
It makes no difference if you are a WASP or a librarian. If a librarian gives pornographic books to children, he must go to jail. If that does not happen, then white people have abandoned their civilization.

Your conclusion about the tobacco companies shows your lack of perception of what is going on and how.

Here “tobacco” can be replaced by any other product that people buy, such as burgers and hot dogs laced with zenobiotics.

Namely, you are talking about WASP under the term of “white people”.
A library director who hosts drag queen “events” is not a WASP, nor is an elementary school teacher who drums gender confusion into the heads of 7-year-old children.

Your definition of the word ‘Jew’ is skewed. Saint John uses the word to mean ‘any descendant of Abraham and the tribes of Israel who chooses anti-Christ.’ I think Jones uses that definition. ‘Jew’, of course, is short for Judah. So at its base, a Jew is someone with heritage defined by the Kingdom of Judah, as opposed to the Kingdom of Israel. It was in Judah that the perversion of the faith of Abraham and the Law of Moses was completed. So the religion that Jesus faced from both synagogue and Temple, the religion that wanted Him dead and his followers destroyed, the religion that Jesus told the Pharisees made Satan their spiritual father, was the religion of Judah – Jewish religion. Jews would be the natural designation for the people off that religion, which is most key ways inverted everything that faith of Abraham was and that the Lw of Moses was meant to usher in over time until the Messias would come.

Instead of calling him a disgrace and badgering Garland in vain on the number of agents he deployed in Catholic parishes, Hawley should have brought up the most significant development in the abortion struggle since the overthrow of Roe v. Wade by reminding Garland that 400 Jewish organizations have claimed that abortion is a fundamental Jewish value.

What good would Hawley accomplish by ending his political career so quickly?

That said, at this time I see no path to victory that would allow public discussion of such Jewish Questions in these dying days of our Republic. But to not acknowledge what Republicans have to do or here don’t do when so much of their evangelical base worships Jews and the media culture they have to swim in is owned by Jews or philoSemites does not strike me as helpful.

TL;DR: politics is the art of the possible.

Jews would be the natural designation for the people off that religion, which is most key ways inverted everything that faith of Abraham was and that the Lw of Moses was meant to usher in over time until the Messias would come.

People believe “Jews” follow the Laws of Moses. That is what gives them gravitas. But “Jewish Century” ((Jews)) practice Marxist-Zionism, a criminal organization filled with method actors carrying out atrocity after atrocity. Their top adherents run Hollywood (method acting central), Wall Street, and the City of London. Play acting and artifice are HUGE in all three centers of illusion.

All main organized religions in the “Jewish Century” are wrapped in artifice, following the Marxist-Zionist lead. The “Jewish Century” traumatized Christendom to the point that it became a farce. The Marxist-Zionists within all the Allied countries carried out the trauma, and the Catholics learned from that how the game is played. The Orthodox in ex-Marxist-Zionist Russia have belatedly realized the “Catholics” and “Protestants” and ((Jews)) have joined forces, and are playing the game against them.

@ dodge city pete
https://www.unz.com/ejones/report-from-the-floor-of-hell/#comment-5849526

Although Hitler, Franco, Mussolini, Biggie Brzezinski and Dr Joe Mengele were good Catholics now fallen from Grace – their successors are legion and still share a higher loyalty – General Milley, Lloyd Austin, John Brennan, John Roberts, Emmanuel Macron, Nancy Pelosi, Dr Fauci, Samantha Power, Ursula von der Leyen, Charles Michel, Jim Comey, Bill Barr and John Kerry will keep the Faith.

Everyone on your list is a method acting “Catholic” or a ((Catholic)) and ((Jew)) mix, like Bill Barr and John Kerry.

The ((Jew)) + ((Catholic)) mix is exactly how the Marxist-Zionist ((Jews)) infiltrated first ((Protestantism)), then ((Russian Orthodox)).

The “Jewish Century” made a joke out of all Judeo-Christian religions, starting with Judaism, which the ((Jews)) find oppressive. But they’re too gutless, phony, evil, and passive aggressive to come right out and say it. Plus, they like all of the loot they have to gain in the scam, and the credibility they gain by labeling themselves “Jews,” which gives them license to destroy Moses and Jesus from the inside.

And so these golden calf ((Jews)) are again completely undermining the Laws of Moses in the most obscene, abhorrent, and subhuman ways imaginable, and so are their stooges.

It’s going to take a shocking amount of violence to “reset” the lot of them. But it did the first time, too, when Moses “reset” the golden calf lot, with the added bonus that doing so can ultimately only result in good cosmic karma.

NOT doing so will get you a ticket straight to hell on earth and nuclear annihilation. You don’t want to be on that team.

Protestants, especially Baptists have a “hard on” when it comes to hatred of the Catholic Church. They consider Catholics as an “enemy” and the Catholic Church to be satanic…
Protestants believe in “sola scriptura” in which the “word” of the Bible is sacrosanct, despite the Bible being written by men, quite often with their own agendas. Even a shyster Schofield got his biblical licks in, elevating the jew and absolving the jews from responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ.
Protestants also believe that “good works” have no bearing on “salvation” which I have a hard time with.
In Protestant doctrine, one can be a grievous sinner all of his life, hurting and destroying others, and on his deathbed profess a belief in Jesus Christ and will automatically be “saved”. I don’t buy it…
Even if “good works” have no bearing on the possibility of “salvation” they can’t hurt…
Yes, the Catholic Church has problems, and will always have problems, but has still done more for humanity than most.
The first hospitals, educational institutions, and charity organizations in the middle ages and beyond were founded and run by the Catholic Church.
Yes, the Catholic Church “went off the rails” by selling “indulgences” (a fast-track to heaven)-a big mistake.
Even today, the Catholic Church sells “indulgences” of a sort–divorce being possible within the Church, being called “annulment”–which states that “no marriage existed”.
These “annulments” are granted to Catholics, even after have been married for decades. Once again, “the power of the purse” figures in to the decision by the bishop. The greater the “contribution” the easier it is to get an “annulment”.
Even abortion was legal within the Catholic Church (before the time of “quickening”) (when the soul is perceived to enter the body)…
I make no excuses for the behavior of the Catholic Church. Hell, at one time, there were three “popes” at the same time…talk about confusion (lol).
I stand by my statement that the “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” was a power grab by jews and Protestants and was detrimental to the traditional Catholic faith.
Fortunately, there are “old-line” Catholic parishes that still exist, despite efforts by “Novus Ordo” clergy to stamp them out…

You should be talking about the Judas Christian Coalition of Pat Robertson that actually excluded Catholics. That powerful institution from 80’s essentially disappeared from the scene because they merged with the Jewish institutions for not having any differences. Your pointing out individual Catholics has nothing to do with the Catholic institutions or its positions.

This is why Christianity has become a joke, 75,000 murders of innocents (almost the equivalent of the victims of Hiroshima!) and automatic forgiveness by only bothering to appear in a church. This Nathanson story has always made me very uncomfortable.
I know that theology teaches that the worst sinners can be forgiven but still…in the Middle Ages this Jew would have suffered the worst torments in public, before being baptized in extremis and promised to eons and eons of the worst sufferings in purgatory before – maybe – just maybe – being forgiven.

Not just “appear in a church”. Having a conversion of heart, having true sorrow for your sins, and going to the Sacrament of Reconciliation and seeking forgiveness. Having contrition is necessary for the Sacrament of Reconciliation, even imperfect contrition (fear of hell rather than the perfect contrition of love of God) is necessary— but not sufficient— and the sacrament works to bridge that almost infinite gap between imperfect and perfect contrition. And just going to the Sacrament of Confession is evidence enough of at least imperfect contrition.

The rise of white women was the critical mass the jews needed. Half of the white population thinks their own sons and fathers are the greatest threat ever to human civilization, while thinking that jews are the greatest tribe ever on earth. I don’t know how forward-thinking the tribe was 100+ years ago, but the 1913 fed reserve scam, and the enshrinement of voting rights for females, were the two stakes in the heart of Christian America that led to it bleeding out. It has always been white females pushing the hardest for the subjugation and destruction of their own men and male children. You can say they’re brainwashed, but plenty of people from all backgrounds have resisted college indoctrination. White women thought toppling their own men would lead straight to power and nirvana. It never occurred to the stupid bitches that they were merely serving someone else. And now the tranny and lgbtq movement is proving that we apparently don’t need (white) women, after all.

Person Barron is skim milk, lite, white bread.

Jew, the world you have turned into a hell.

Jew, from Hell you came;
Jew, to Hell you shall return.

Pretty sure clearly stated in several pages of the Talmud –
up to your necks in pig shit in the deepest part of Hell.

‘Oh, come on! The Jews didn’t WIN, it was the whites who SURRENDERED! Actually, the whites opened the gates and the Jews marched in with barely a squeak of protest from the masses.’

Actually, the masses squeaked quite a bit…but the Jews hectored and ridiculed and censored them into silence. Consider a show like <All in the Family. Who exactly was it who produced it again?

For the last sixty years, there has effectively been a virtually relentless campaign to marginalize, invalidate, and undermine the ordinary expression of the ordinary sentiments and values of ordinary Americans — and this campaign has been conducted above all, by Jews.

Unpleasant as it is to say, that’s the truth.

We need another movie starring Jude Law :”Enemy Inside the Gates”. The Jews have set the stage. The decorations are already in. Place your bets, gentlemen. lol

Folkvangr is just another blame-shiting JIDF Troll.

Of course, the descriptor is figurative. In other words, even if such commenters are not literally JIDF Trolls, they might as well be.

Speaking of which, just look at how insane (and revealing) the first sentence of the JIDF Troll Wiki entry is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force

The Jewish Internet Defense Force (JIDF) was an organization that used social media to mobilize support for campaigns against websites and Facebook groups that promote or praise what it described as Islamic terrorism or antisemitism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force

Predators posing as victims. What Nietzsche referred to as The Slave Revolt In Morality.

Now let’s see. What do these two semetic peoples have in common?
Well, the pre-modern and anti-modern demands to be;
placed above criticism, love unconditionally, and blindly obeyed, or else.

They’re also possessed by an incredible inability to admit when they’re wrong – ever. And a corresponding need to scapegoat and victim blame. They also like to rule by terror (hence the need to victim-blame by accusing their victims of terrorism). But let’s direct some questions specifically to Jewish Supremacy, or simply, Supremacy Inc.

If Jews are so smart, why didn’t they create their own civilization?
Because they’re not as smart as they think they are. Just as it’s not that whites are stupid because they were fooled by them. It’s because Supremacy Inc. is good at deception and the people they fool aren’t because they don’t train themselves to be the way their Rabbis of Supremacy Inc. have been training (and fooling) their own people for ages.

This explains why, when they win by deception, they gloat and victim blame, while playing the victim. Which is what this blame-shifting troll is doing here at TUR. Folkvangr, and not just Folkvangr, repeats the same line over and over again, like the chattering of an idiot, only less interesting. Back to some more questions:

Why did they glom onto a civilization they openly hate?
Well, we’ve already answered that. Because they couldn’t create their own. But also because Supremacy Inc. is a hate-filled, hate-driven and dishonest enterprise. They need a place to project their hatred. That’s why. Hate for Supremacy Inc. is a mode of adaptation. It’s also why they created Hate Speech Laws, so they could hide their own hate behind them.

Why did they obey their rabbis and live in ghettos and then blame their self-chosen ghetto life on Gentile descrimination?
Again, that’s been answered. Because dishonesty and blame-shifting is what Supremacy Inc. is all about. And it’s what this Folkvangr troll is all about too, and why one is better off ignoring them.

Pat Buchanan was earlier chastised over this 6 million figure. Some state that when the Russians liberated Auschwitz one of the internees yelled 6 million following the USSR commander musing “How many have perished ?”

Polish catholics and ‘American/western friendship’…

-Clown – He is to be the US ambassador to Poland. He wants to push the topic of “free media” and LGBTQ

-They send a clown to the operetta state. Nothing new. He’ll hang out rainbow panties and sell some American junk. Some tanks, rockets and possibly some power plants. And our “Important” will get air about how special we are because the Yankees sold us some iron for fat cash

-On the occasion of Pride Month, US Ambassador Mark Brzezinski presented an open letter on behalf of 46 embassies and representative offices in Warsaw expressing support for the LGBTQI+ community. “Pride Month is a time when we emphasize that everyone has the right to respect, regardless of sexual orientation and gender identity,” Brzezinski said.

killing Polish catholics souls,

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Zaslav

David Zaslav-sky (1880–1965) – Jewish activist, Bund Bolshevik, leading Soviet propagandist, editor of Pravda Soviet for decades
Jesse Zaslav (1927-?) – a well-known attorney in the underworld in New York, active since the 1960s.

David Zaslav (1960-) – managing director at Discovery Inc. (owner of WSI24/’Polish’ news channel)

American owner of the TVN//’Polish’ news channel// group
@Discovery
entered into business in 2015 with NMG Yuri Kovalchuk, Putin’s “personal banker” and host of the wedding of Putin’s daughter. Although Kovalchuk is subject to US sanctions, his media assets are not:

On September 29, 2010, the president and managing director of Discovery Communications, David Zaslav, announced plans to become more involved in Russia.

After five years…

On August 27, 2015, it was reported that Discovery “found a local partner, which will allow it to stay on the Russian market.” This refers to the changes in the law introduced in Russia. On January 1, 2016, the limit of 20% of foreign capital in media companies entered into force. (stick + carrot = 20%)

“In cooperation with the Russian partner – the main private holding company National Media Group – Discovery Communications will create a new company that will manage 11 Discovery channels in Russia, the companies announced on Thursday in a joint press statement. It said that the new company created by Discovery Communications and National Media Group will operate under the name of Media Alliance According to Alexander Ordzhonikidze, CEO of National Media Group, the transaction, which will be completed in a few weeks, will provide Media Alliance with a solid foundation for the emergence of a new major player in the pay-TV market.
In turn, Olga Paskina, Discovery’s manager for North-Eastern Europe, announced that National Media Group will receive 80% of the shares of the new company Media Alliance.
National Media Group is one of the largest private media entities in Russia. The company co-owns the Russian TV channels Channel One, REN TV, and Channel Five, and also owns shares in the Izvestia and Metro-Petersburg newspapers, the Russian News Service radio and the Art Pictures vision film company.
The board of directors of the company is headed by Russian Olympic champion and former [United Russia (Putin)] MP Alina Kabaeva [Putin].

Discovery Communications operates the Russian TV channels Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, TLC and Eurosport.

According to press releases, in recent years Discovery Communications has increased the number of local versions of its channels in Russia.

Colin Wright wrote to Folkvangr:

Actually, the masses squeaked quite a bit…but the Jews hectored and ridiculed and censored them into silence. Consider a show like All in the Family. Who exactly was it who produced it again?

One of the ironies of pop-culture history was that the audience was supposed to despise the Archie Bunker character.

In fact, the public ended up being so fond of Archie that, when the show ended, there was a spin-off starring only Archie from the original show (with a few appearances from Edith and Gloria).

And the supposedly enlightened Rob Reiner character (AKA “Meathead”) ended up as an unpleasant, unsympathetic character who was mooching off Archie at the same time he thought he was better than Archie.

Funny how things work out.

EMJ Live ep. 14: The Merrick Garland Hearings

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The Bizzy Yid!

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Instead of calling him a disgrace and badgering Garland in vain on the number of agents he deployed

This is just more of the circus that entertains, provokes, and in the end, achieves nothing. Just more noise. To be reported on to the citizenry by the information dispersal agents of ABCBSNBC. Even here.

Instead of opposing the legality of abortion, why not propose a law requiring that any female who becomes pregnant, without visible means of support, preferably a husband in residence, have an abortion. Paid for by the state.

Surely the proponents of abortion cannot be in opposition to such a requirement. After all, for the price of abortion you forgo the future costs of schooling, housing, clothing and the other expenses of raising a child to adulthood.

Abortion, legal or illegal, will always be available for those women who are rich. It always has been.

Christians should learn from their betters. You know. Those people who always seem to win. If they want to ever achieve anything.

All that’s necessary is to become lawyers. Then replace those who always win with your own people. Of course such a tactic will require a bit of time. But the longest journey begins with a single step.

It’s because Supremacy Inc. is good at deception and the people they fool aren’t

That’s pretty good. But they can’t really be blamed for wanting to be supreme. Every living creature wants to be supreme. Don’t they?

Those creatures that don’t want to be supreme, who want to be just ordinary, lacking in ambition, are very likely to eventually fade away. To cease to exist.

It’s called evolution.

There is no guarantee that just because one person or group of people that existed once upon a time will continue to exist into the future. Indeed, there is every reason to believe that those people who want to be just ordinary tend to die off.

Look up Ephrata cloister.

I would take a different route…
Any woman who wishes to abort her offspring must have the male “sign-off” approving the abortion.
Since “it takes two” to tango, the male should have a say…
Just a thought…

Consider a show like All in the Family. Who exactly was it who produced it again?

Who were the people stupid enough to be indoctrinated by it?

For the last sixty years, there has effectively been a virtually relentless campaign to marginalize, invalidate, and undermine the ordinary expression of the ordinary sentiments and values of ordinary Americans — and this campaign has been conducted above all, by Jews.

While it is despicable that some Jews take advantage of many gentiles through pornography, gambling, propaganda, misinformation, and other means. Even more egregious is that many gentiles blame their lack of pride, self-control, willpower, and rational thought on Jews.

Unpleasant as it is to say, that’s the truth.

Those that believe a solution to the problems of the United States will come from the Deep State controlled government…are fools.

‘…While it is despicable that some Jews take advantage of many gentiles through pornography, gambling, propaganda, misinformation, and other means. Even more egregious is that many gentiles blame their lack of pride, self-control, willpower, and rational thought on Jews…’

So we should learn to recognize the Jewish threat and resist it?

What measures do you propose?

Folkvangr is just another blame-shiting JIDF Troll.

Coming from someone who can’t even spell. So what is it, troll hunter? “Shitting” or “shifting”?
Ron should start using an IQ test to screen out idiots like you. You should also be banned from 4chan, 8chan, 12chan, haaretz.com, and chabad.org.

That’s pretty good. But they can’t really be blamed for wanting to be supreme. Every living creature wants to be supreme. Don’t they?

Those creatures that don’t want to be supreme, who want to be just ordinary, lacking in ambition, are very likely to eventually fade away. To cease to exist.

It’s called evolution.

There is no guarantee that just because one person or group of people that existed once upon a time will continue to exist into the future. Indeed, there is every reason to believe that those people who want to be just ordinary tend to die off.

Look up Ephrata cloister.

Sentence five in your comment contradicts sentence three.
If, as you say in sentence three, Every living creature wants to be supreme, how do account for Those creatures that don’t want to be supreme in sentence five.
That’s called a paralogism. It’s an unconscious violation of your own logic.

The rest of your comment is a strawman argument that attributes to me things I didn’t say in my previous comment.

Not only is it, in relation to my comment, a strawman, but even on its own it makes no sense. You pit Supreme vs Ordinary and say that the Supreme survive while the Ordinary don’t. Well, if the Ordinary die off because they’re ordinary, leaving only the Supreme, than the whole idea of Supremacy loses its value. Since something, or someone, can only be Supreme in relation to something, or someone else. Obviously! And what are they supreme over?
Well, Ordinary people, of course.

Also, evolution is a metaphysical term, not a scientific theory. In fact, it was discredited by Darwin’s theory of natural selection. To the extent evolution is a theory it states that the laws of nature direct the course of events to move toward higher, purer, better states of affairs. Which today would be considered as a form of magical thinking.

The two essential ideas of metaphysical evolutionism is
1. the world is an emergent world
2. that it’s an irreversible and nonrepetitive world
In other words, evolution has direction and purpose. There is nothing in the biological world that supports this. If you want to believe in it, that’s another thing. Knock yourself out.

This is exactly why it was not just replaced, but embarrassed, by the theory of natural selection.
That theory states that new species come into existence by a process that can only be described as accidental. If a species has a range of variation among its individuals such that when the environment of the species changes, previously nonadaptive variations are selected as a means of survival, a new species will in the course of time emerge, provided that the change in environment is not so great as to cause the total extinction of the species and provided that the population of the species is sufficient to maintain itself during the period of the development of the new species out of the old.

In short, No organism or species is perfectly adapted to the world.

From your comment: There is no guarantee that just because one person or group of people that existed once upon a time will continue to exist into the future.

That is exactly right. And, in fact, it is the point I’ve made here at TUR in my comments about Supremacy Inc. It’s not that it’s bad to want to be supreme. It just depends on how you define the word and whether or not the definition makes sense and the application works. In other words, what matters is if one’s mode of adaptation is itself adaptive. Because it might not be.

My argument is that Supremacy Inc.’s mode of adaptation is itself maladaptive. Why?
Because it is too dependent on its Scapegoat (whites) and too dependent on the use of force to ever e adaptive. To put it bluntly, Supremacy Inc. is attempting to place the entire world under the iron paw of its maladaptive model.

In short, it’s mode of supremacy is cancerous. This presents the world with two choices. Either let the cancer spread, or remove it. But to do that you need to occupy the very positions of power that Supremacy Inc. now holds. In that sense, treason against Supremacy Inc. is loyalty to humanity. Since they are the real cancer of the human race. To the extent that can not be done, then the group of people you mention in the sentence quoted above will refer to the entire human race. It very well may be.

One the Church abandoned preaching Extra Ecclesiam Nullus omnino Salvatur then it was Katy bar the door. It was sacrificed on the altar of ecumenism, which has been a disaster for the Church. Why would anyone join the Church and obey its discipline if there were no eternal consequences? St. Peter preached the gospel of repentance on Pentecost and converted 3000 Jews in one day. The Church should follow his example and forget the blind alleys of dialogue and ecumenism.

I agree, but as I mentioned in my comment #15 the Church abandoned nearly everything that she preached, taught, defended and believed after the 1970 promulgation of the Vatican II Constitutions.

The Vatican II Decrees on Ecumenism and Non-Christian Religions collectively abandoned the belief that the Church was the one, holy, Apostolic, universal (that is, Catholic) Church. This is why after 1970 it ceased being the Catholic Church and became something alien, it became the Vatican II Church. For the Church prelates and Popes after John XXIII to have written, approved promulgated and enforced the heresies and ambiguities of the Vatican II Constitutions the critical positions within the Church hierarchy must have already been infiltrated by Jews or their proxies.

The question that no one is asking is this: Why is the self proclaimed Jew Hunter par excellence, aka E. Michael Jones never utter a word about this?

So we should learn to recognize the Jewish threat and resist it?

As you would any threat.

What measures do you propose?

Stop watching their propaganda-laden entertainment…or at least know what you are watching.
Use media sources that are not used as propaganda tools.
Refrain from getting entangled in financial products that only benefit those issuing.
Be mindful of your state and local government and what is being espoused.
Be aware of what your children are being taught at all levels.
Be situationally aware at all times. Use your head.
Forewarned is forearmed.

Should read irrational thought.

Most people confuse “freedom of speech” with “freedom of opinion” and often use them interchangeably. Jews live by the principle: “Your opinion is a violation of my freedom of speech!”

I hesitate to post here any more since this site censors views on COVID, so I no longer trust it a being a wide open platform due to principled support of free speech. I now suspect it is a sort of tool to promote racial division. But I will post a reply because I do not think you understand Jones’ position.

Jones believes that Vatican II was hyped by the media in a dishonest way that was not true. That the Church did not try to claim the gospels were not true and it did not give the Jewish agents what they wanted. He believes many Church leaders, due to cowardice or confusion, have taken to heart the prohibition on anti-Semitism – which all Catholics should adhere to – as a command to submit to ADL or Jewish organization rule, which Catholics are certainly not at all called to do. For example, the ADL says it is anti-Semitic to criticize Israel, but Israel is an abomination and a war crime that calls out for criticism. What is a good Catholic to do? Tell the truth, I would say, and reject the commands of our ADL oppressors to facilitate their evil works in Palestine.

I recommend the first chapter of Rodney Stark’s book called “Bearing False Witness” for an interesting autobiographical report of how he as a young protestant historian in grad school was recruited and hired by the ADL to make a report about Catholic anti-Semitism to influence the Vatican II council. He seems to have regretted his role and published that book to expose that slander of the Catholic Church as well as several other slanders against the Church. I recommend his work. I also recommend you finish the “Jewish Revolutionary Spirit” and “Logos Rising” to better understand where Jones is coming from.

Jones is just one lay Catholic doing research and reporting, but I do think he is correct as a Catholic to call for Church unity even in the face of serious error by many Catholic leaders. The alternative seems to be Protestantism which seems to have proven itself to be a dead end quite literally. Having faith that God will protect his Holy Apostolic Church from harm is difficult in such times, but it seems to be better than taking the hubris filled decision to step away from the Church and do better on your own. If God does intend for his Church to be revitalized and repaired from its current very weakened and corrupted state, it will be through the efforts of people like Jones to speak the truth and stand against evil without fear. May God protect him and strengthen all of us to protect what God through his grace gave us with the coming of his Son, Jesus, the logos incarnate. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

JIDF Trolls are pathetic. But triggered JIDF Trolls are funny, in a pathetic sort of way.

Coming from someone who can’t even spell.

You confuse a typo wtih the inability to spell and you’re calling me an idiot?

Just about every TUR contributor and commenter makes typos. So I’m in good company.
You’re not. Because you’re a pathetic JIDF Troll. But I am. Because I’m among contributors and commenters who make typos. Though I have to say, as far as typos go, “blame-shitting” is a pretty good one. And in this case entirely appropriate.

Ron should start using an IQ test to screen out idiots like you.

Ah! I see. So that’s how your parents talk to you. Poor thing.
Maybe you should move out.

Anyway, regarding the above quote, since you’d only be banning yourself I think that’s a great idea. On second thought, it’d be better if you stick around. You’re funny, in a pathetic sort of way, and we could all use a laugh. But I still think you should move out.

4justice wrote:

I hesitate to post here any more since this site censors views on COVID, so I no longer trust it a being a wide open platform due to principled support of free speech. I now suspect it is a sort of tool to promote racial division. But I will post a reply because I do not think you understand Jones’ position.

I’m a new poster to the comment sections of Unz Review but I can’t agree—at least not yet. For example, in Barrett’s latest article I made a posting disagreeing with every government lie about COVID and my posting hasn’t been removed.

4justice wrote:

Jones believes that Vatican II was hyped by the media in a dishonest way that was not true. That the Church did not try to claim the gospels were not true and it did not give the Jewish agents what they wanted. He believes many Church leaders, due to cowardice or confusion, have taken to heart the prohibition on anti-Semitism – which all Catholics should adhere to – as a command to submit to ADL or Jewish organization rule, which Catholics are certainly not at all called to do.

So your summary of Jones’s position on the Vatican II Council is that
1. the secular press misrepresented the Vatican II Council as denying the New Testament,
2. that Vatican II Council prelates did not give “external” forces (Jews) what they wanted at the Vatican II Council and
3. Vatican II Council prelates through cowardice/confusion bowed to accusations of anti-semitism (from the Jews) and “did” command its flock to obey the “magisterium of anti-semitism.

Claim#1 is something I’ve never heard in the last 53 years (from anyone) and Claim#2 and #3 contradict each other. Either Church prelates stuck to their guns or bowed to the Jews, it cannot be both.

What this ignores is the history of Vatican II Council and the liturgical “reform” it championed The modernist liturgical reform began in secret in the late 40s with Anabale Bugnini at the helm. He reported in his 1000+ page autobiography to use the same Judaized principles to radically alter the Mass that Jones reported in his Magnum Opus that the Protestants used 300 years early. The final Novus Ordo “mass” that Pope Paul VI wanted to unleash was so anti-Catholic that several prelates threatened to out him as a heretic. Paul VI made superficial changes and the Novus Ordo was unleashed on the Church. So Pope Paul VI was neither cowardly nor confused—he was defiant against 1000 years of Church liturgy. And he boldly claimed (or boasted) to the Catholic World—in his oft quoted line—that he had let the smoke of satan into the Church. Yet Jones is not only silent he bashes Traditionalists and Pius V Mass devotees who report this.

This gave the external forces against the Church nearly everything they wanted. For the vast majority of followers the Mass is everything they know and learn about the Church. Judaize how they pray and Judaized they will become. Jones is silent and bashes Traditionalists and Pius V Mass devotees who report this.

The Vatican II Council was initiated with little warning by Pope John XXIII when there was little worry in the Church about recent heresies or questions of faith/doctrine. John XXIII wished a new council to deliberate on how the Church should change with the modern world. This was bizarre since several previous popes had already definitively taught how the Church must deal with modernism. Prior to the start of the Council several prelates had worked out the “schema” of what should be discussed and deliberated upon in countering modernism. However in the 11th hour the original schema was scuttled for something considerable more radical—-John XXIII and Paul VI wanted the Church to change and open itself to modernism. The Vatican II decrees/constitutions that were promulgated by Paul VI in 1970 were littered with intentional ambiguities and heresies. It was Paul VI (and many other well placed prelates) that made sure of this outcome. This was not the result of cowardice and confusion but a planned and deliberate action FROM WITHIN the Church. Jones is silent and bashes Traditionalist who point out this clear history.

The fruits of the Vatican II heresies and the radical alteration of the Pius V Holy Sacrifice of the Mass are a visible Church in the throws of a 53 year world wide steep decline. That E. Michael Jones wishes to have a unity in heresy guarranteeing a continued decline is exactly in concert with what the Jews want.

The Arian Heresey infected nearly all the bishops of the Church and apparently many of its priests. Luckily St. Athanasius didn’t settle for unity in heresy. Because the vast majority of the faithful refused to accept and believe the heresies, the Pope and St. Athanasius had a base which enabled them to summon the bishops to the Council of Nicea in the year 325 where they prevailed over the bishops who were tainted with the Arian heresies. The closest thing to St Athanasius in modern times was the late Archbishop Lefebvre who had no Pope to ally with. All the Popes since John XXIII are Vatican II prelates and not Catholic ones.

How does Jones miss this obvious history of the infiltration of the Church? The evidence that the Church is being decayed largely by forces from within is unmistakeable. Jones is silent. If Jones actually justifies his silence using the absurd claims you attribute to him above then the only conclusion is that he “is” a crypto-Jew.

Dr. Jones’s public position is that the various decrees of Vatican II, despite their ambiguities, should be interpreted in a manner consistent with previous (pre-VII) Catholic teaching. It is basically a way to finesse the problem of Vatican II in a manner that does not reject the Council in toto, as many traditionalists do. He is antagonistic to traditionalism in general and despite his support of traditional Catholic teaching, he is not a fan of the Tridentine mass, which makes him highly unusual. Read all about it in his magazine Culture Wars.

When the Vatican II decrees hit the street in 1970 only the renegade theologians, Jews and Protestants were over-joyed. Most of the Catholic World saw ambiguity and heresy. The Vatican hierarchy dismissed the naysayers reporting that the Vatican II decrees were merely “pastoral” and no doctrine had been changed. This, of course, proved to be completely false. The heresies of Ecumenism, religious liberty, universal salvation, and others were taught by the JPII, Benedict XVI, and Francis, fostered by them and enforced by them. These were not pastoral changes but significant doctrinal changes. Vatican II decrees weren’t pastoral they became the new bedrock of a new Church.

The non Catholic path that many choose to take, apparently including Jones, was to presume that the Pope and Church prelates cannot fall into heresy so therefore the Vatican II decrees they promulgated can’t be in error. But they are in error. What to do? So let us (say Jones and others) act as our own pope (that is, act as our own magisterium) and disregard/ignore the heresies. And we’ll interpret the ambiguous parts (nearly the bulk of the Vatican II decrees) in the light of the previous 1970 years of dogmatic theology. This is not Catholic.

First off, Jones and others like him are grossly mistaken: in the history of the Church, popes and other prelates have fallen into heresy repeatedly. During the Arian Heresy nearly all of the Bishops and some of the popes degenerated into heresy for about 50 years. Catholic theologians and the Canon Law of the Catholic Church has long recognized this possibility and has offered remedies.

Second, Theological remedies and the Code of Canon Law do NOT permit Jones and others like him to “finesse” Catholic teachings. For Popes/Bishops who are considered faithful and non heretical the Church gives no license to the likes of E. Michael Jones to decide which parts of its Ordinary and Universal Teachings he will chose to accept and ignore.

Lastly the Vatican II Decrees/Constitutions are a unified whole not a series of unrelated sentences. The heresy in one decree is consistent with and often necessarily tied to the heresies in the other decrees. They must be accepted as whole as part of the Church’s Ordinary and Universal Teaching OR discarded in its entirety as emanating from heretics. The choice chosen by Jones is NON-Catholic and it aids the Jews, not the Church.

It is Jones who has taken the non Catholic route. The Traditionalists, the Fatimists and the Pope Pius V Mass devotees have beat the drum of heresy and scandal for 53 years hoping like St. Athanasius that another Council will be called to stop any further destruction of the Church.

By the way I subscribed to Culture Wars in 2021, quickly discovered that Jones is not a reliable source about Catholicism and quickly cancelled.

1-the concept of “cut to the heart”…..Nobody cuts to the heart anymore. If you’re not willing to cut people to the heart you’re not willing to evangelize. Sure there are different ways to go about evangelization depending on the situation. But it’s also true that you can’t hide the gospel, that’s why it’s called “good news”. Protestants have an expression about evangelization: “you tell me that I can’t say that to a nonbeliever, because I’ll chase them away. But which hell am I going to chase them to? The second hell? The third hell?”.

2-Can someone please explain to me what Bishop Barron means when he says that belief in Christ is only the privileged road to salvation? Are there multiple roads?? Somebody told me it might be from Dominus Iesus.

I do think Dr. Jones is correct that traditionalists (and Catholics in general) have not recognized nor addressed the major cultural and religious threat Jews represent, in fact THE major threat we face. You can’t win a war you pretend is not happening.

Discussing the question “who is going to hell?” with a straight face is no different from having a serious scholarly discussion about how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.

Jones wants to fight about whose conditioning is true. Conditioning is memory, that’s all. Learning a religious narrative means your memory is programmed with that narrative but unlike a computer the human imbues that memory with the intense emotional power of possession, like a child’s sense of possession when holding a toy another child is trying to take away.

When all the adults in the story above, including the author, are viewed as children fighting over a toy, and the toy is simply their conditioning carried by memory, the viewer can only laugh at such childish foolishness.

Religions are man made.
Religion is the enemy of religiousness.
For religious man church is a nuisance.
For religious man priests & politicians are infestations.
For religious man priests & politicians are investments – infestations – of the Jew, the devil’s arm that is. Judaism is not a religion. It is a mafia with codex of evil.
The Catholic Church, a Jewish construct, is evil.
“The Bible”, including the New Testament, is death of truth and nature of man; hence all the wars. (Regularly they change – “improve” – the wholesale scriptures aka “holy scriptures”, proof read by the Jew).
To love everybody is to love none.
The Christ is real. (Jews called him Nazi, that is why the Jews are “managing” Nazis today).
The Christ does not love you. The Christ is love.
If one (as rarely as one out of a million lottery wins) meets (unites) the Christ, love meets love.
To love is to work (instead of investing, i.e. infesting) and create with your hands in sweat. Work makes life sweet (not “free”). Your body, your hands, is your church.
Start by cleaning your dungeon; own your dungeon and your dungeon only.
And woman saying to the cleaner “I am pregnant” will make the cleaner painfully happy.
Life is a riddle to be lived in truth and love and love can sometimes be hostile to truth.

Please note that this “Folkvangr” is yet another jew pretending to be white. It wants to argue that white people should support a jew in jewkraine to kill other white people, it argues how jews are not to blame for anything, and most tellingly, it lashes out desperately when it is exposed as a jew.

To call Holocaust remembering a “religion” is only a metaphore, not reality. Therefore one cannot protest against it in the name of the principle of “separation of state and religion”. I agree however that menoras are Jewish religious symbols and therefore should be banned from public space in the name of that same principle.

You fail to comprehend that it is the Jewish controlled media, academia, government and corporate and banking entities that have brainwashed, indoctrinated and Ponzi/Madoff scammed Goyim into believing the bs that is regurgitated 24/7/365 by Jewish controlled media.
This is nothing less than evil conniving tactics that have been used for over two thousand years by the twelve tribes of Israel.

This is what happens when the US government is now an occupied nation under Jewish control. Most every alphabet is headed by a Jew who regards non Jews as subhuman pigs.

Until Alex Jones/InfoWars type sites and every conservative entity admits this simple fact, nothing will change.

America is an occupied state of Zionist Israel.

The blatant hoax of J6 that have recently been exposed by Tucker Carlson on FOX News is a mirror image of all the other hoaxes handed down as factual propaganda by Jmedia.

Who would have ever thought that America would one day be a Jewish controlled caliphate of Israel, fighting wars and chaos for the benefit of International Jew Inc.

While clearly my knowledge about Catholicism and the history of the Catholic Church are puny compared to yours, I will just add my two cents.

Dr. Michael Hoffman’s critique of Vatican II focuses on the Catholic Church’s leadership which promulgated that most grave heresy that dwarfs the changes to the Catholic Mass; THAT JEWS, BEING THE DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM, CAN DISPENSE OF CHRIT’S SALVATION. Considering how many Jews can claim to be of the lineage of Abraham, especially the Ashkenazis whose origins are traced to the Asian steppes, makes this Vatican II clause a double lie. When I brought up the subject of Vatican II with a long serving Jesuit missionary in Africa, five years back, he claimed that most of the opponents of Vatican II were nostalgics who objected to the reforms of the Catholic Mass.

Other critical points of Dr. Hoffman were the forbidding by “Saint” John Paul II of the reprinting of Saint Vincent Ferrer’s articles which did score the highest conversion of Jews to Catholicism, his calling the Jews “ our elder brothers in the faith” and his attending of Voodoo celebrations while showering the adherents with praise about the values of their religion.

Could that be traced only to caving in to Jewish influence. I personally doubt it, for any prelate can stand his ground when it comes to matters of principle. Stressing the false concept of Judeo-Chritian tradition is a gross falsification of Christianity which is supposed to be an antidote to the Judaic creed. Accepting Voodooism as a legitimate religion is one further step towards syncretism which looks like the way the Catholic Church is heading. Yet for all the shortcomings of the previous Popes, I think the current Pope has swallowed the new modernist ideology hook, line and sinker when he spoke in favor of gay marriage during a casual chat with reporters from outside the magisterium. Also Bergolio’s advocacy of open borders, environmentalism, forced vaccinations and other worldly affairs should tell us that the Catholic Church is in the throes of her final act of capitulation to Satanism.

The singular monumental issue before us is the Anglo-Zionist project to destroy Russia.You have been cheerleader in that ill begotten parade of miscreants led by Talmudic Russophobes who harbor a visceral hated of the Nation they failed to enslave.

So when you ridicule the “accepted” Holocaust narrative it is transparently disingenuous,an obvious attempt to put some distance between you and the Jews by pretending to be an antisemite in order to deflect attention from the currently more critical Russian issue.

I have never hated anyone because of their ancestry,including Jews,but organized Jewish power is by far the most insidious enemy of the rest of humanity.Your feint to prove your antisemitic credentials has obviously fooled some but your anti-Russian bias betrays you.

“ Jones is silent. If Jones actually justifies his silence using the absurd claims you attribute to him above then the only conclusion is that he “is” a crypto-Jew. “

I would have pressed the agree button if it wasn’t for this last sentence. While I am not advocating Dr. Jones’s core position on the role of the Catholic Church, I think to doubt the sincerity of his writings that cost him the animosity of Jews and their powerful persecution tools like the ADL, pushing Dr. Jones to the limits in a struggle for survival, with his books banned from Amazon, is a bit extreme. Dr. Jones has been one of the most outspoken and fearless opponents of the Jewish influence on American society that I would never miss an interview with him where he pronounces truth gems that hardly one in a million dare to declare on an open platform without hiding behind a nom de plume.

The man calling himself a “bishop” is babbling irrational, useless conclusory assertions and guesses as “doctrine”, just like you and the author. You have no idea how God allows us to be “Saved” or even whether he allows us to be saved, and you should all stop pretending to have the “definite answers” — as should the zealots of other religions.

Good to see you and Jones and the other babblers all are covering the important issues — whose conclusory assertions about unproven and unprovable things are “right” — while our society continues to decay and soon collapse.

There’s no such thing as “heresy”, you superstitious bullying jackass.

The “Orthodox” version of conclusory irrational nonsense is no better than the “roman catholic” or “uniate catholic” or “protestant” version of conclusory irrational nonsense. Embarrassing to see you babblers “argue” over unproven and unproveable “doctrines” and jargon, calling someone a “troll” for spouting the same kind of useless crap.

The Jews didn’t WIN, it was the whites who SURRENDERED! Actually, the whites opened the gates and the Jews marched in with barely a squeak of protest from the masses.

“Jews are the disease of the skin. Whites are the disease of the heart!”

Very narcissistic, this impulse to be saved for an afterworld, when all good men must strive to save themselves alive, in this world.

Agree with most of comment, but separate commercial chemical tobacco from natural. No study ever proved natural tobacco causes cancer, the con was to setup to drive pot use. If someone is high strung tobacco is very mild effect and brief and nothing compared to alcohol or pot. They attack it because can be used as paper and they want to snoop everyone using digital. People should have been growing tobacco and hemp, thats why they claim to ‘regulate’ it which is a con.

The schemes obvious, same time push obesity which cost is far more, and to push more lazy people, and compare, if people who drank, or smoked pot, or were obese, instead rode horses and chewed tobacco or smoked, how do you think life would be now. There would have been none or at least fewer schemes gone on the last hundred years and instant revolt on their covid con. –The trick was to bait people by slow churn to de-nature into stupid sub-urban morons, poison lawns, no control of food, females focused on nails and picking lint off the carpet and so-called men watching sportz -same time obeying cons as if slaves. Natural tobacco different.
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You are one confused fellow.

Moses, in the unlikely event he even existed, was not a Jew; he was a Hebrew.

The word ‘Jew’ didn’t come into usage until 16th century Europe, when it was used to describe followers of the Talmud.

This is far more than mere semantics. The Talmud is based on what was known as the ‘oral law’, which the Jews claim was passed by Moses to the elite rabbis of his time after he gave the ‘written law’ (Ten Commandments) to the ignorant masses. It was this alleged oral law that was used by the pharisees to oppress the common, am ha’aretz (aka ‘people of the land’) whom the pharisees held in contempt for their boorish, uneducated ways. A few hundred years after the death of Christ, the successors of the pharisees put the oral law into writing when they began penning the first books of the Talmud, to which succeeding rabbis appended commentary for another millennium. Judaism (aka Talmudism) is the result.

There were no ‘Jews’ in the bible, period. The closest the bible comes to depicting a Jew is in its presentation of the pharisees.

Jews are the parasites, whites are the host.

What a load of rigmarole about something (“heaven”) that can’t even be proved to exist.

Except for the minority of Semitic Sephardim, Jews are white, like it or not.

You have a whole lot of history backwards. The basic problems you see as common among Jews pore-date Marxism by 2more than 2000 years. Marxism is just another symptom coming from the fact that the Jews have rejected Christ, that the people whose job was to be the tribe that kept the Law in preparation to embrace the Christ for the good of the world did the exact opposite.

Christendom no longer existed by ‘the Jewish Century.’ Christendom was destroyed, slowly, bay the Protestant Reformation, which was filled with the insane contradictions of using slightly modified Jewish ideas while proclaiming that they were purifying Christianity. All of that unleashed Hell on millions and destroyed institutions. By the time of the Enlightenment, Christendom had been murdered.

John Kerry is not half Catholic. He is half WASP (literally a distant cousin of the Bushes) and half Jewish. Kerry is the name chosen by his Hungarian Jewish ancestor, a Kahn, to make it seem that they were not Jewish.

If the word Jew did not exist until after the Protestant Reformation had caused unimaginable slaughter across Europe, then how does St John use it to label those people who are descendants of Abraham and who choose anti-Christ?

Yes, there are Jews in the Bible, in both senses. There are Jews in the Bible who are descended from citizens of the Kingdom of Judah, and there are Jews because they are anti-Christ.

Obviously, Moses was not a Jew in either sense.

Mike Jones is reliable about almost everything Catholic except things that are about or touch upon anything Vatican II and its aftermath of horrors. He will point out some awful things, but then he gets cold feet. He refuses to allow himself to see how and why there is a Pope Francis, how and why the GREAT Vatican II-produced Pope and Saint, John Paul II, was beloved by Jewish owned media and all facets of WASP imperialism, how that Vatican II Saint, who still is presented as proof of how great Vatican II was, could raise to Cardinal men like Theodore McCarrick and Jorge Bergoglio (Pope Francis). Jones, correctly, can see and talk about Jewish hands all over the Reformation, but he refuses to think about Jewish hands all over Vatican II.

Vatican II/Novus Ordo Catholicism is merely ‘a form of godliness’ that always is easily abused by the forces of anti-Christ.

“As a Jew how does it feel that other religions don’t think you’re getting into heaven?”

The first questions that should have been asked was “Do you believe in heaven?

The next questions should have been “Do you believe in purgatory?

and do you believe in Limbo?

After that then we could have had a more honest discussion.

I find that most people do not want to discuss religion. They are mostly interested in sportsball, eating, entertainment and more eating. This is the religion of most of America.

Someone spoke of heresies like Arianism. These heresies were gotten rid of a long time ago through force of physical power. He who has the most swords wins.

I know you mean Jews, but aren’t “the” pope and his assembled crooks big fans of funny hats and costumes themselves?

As with silliness, conclusory assertions, and wild guesses fancied up as “religious doctrine”, people seem generally able to recognize the “silliness” of other religions’ costumes and rituals but not the silliness of their own.

Hint: theirs are just as silly and pointless as you think, and yours are just as silly and pointless as THEY think 😉

Fair point. If I had murdered thousands of innocent human beings and advocated for the “right” of others to murder their own children before birth too, I wouldn’t expect God to let it slide no matter how sincere my contrition and regret.

Good that he realized the moral horror of what he had done. Unfortunate that he thought adopting that ridiculous religion was necessary to forgiveness.

Too bad that the seeds of the decay and collapse with you klaxon are in your epistemology.

The commenters’ various versions of conclusory silliness — their “religions” and “denominations” — hold little appeal for me. But the rulers of the US government, corporate media, and universities must be exposed and lawfully removed for many reasons, and their discrimination and encouragement of violence against christians and their churches is a big one.

‘Joseph Ratzinger hectored us from the grave by claiming that Jews and Catholics shared the same morality.’ — E Michael Jones

The endlessly repeated, linguistically transgressive expression ‘Judeo-Christian values’ reinforces this canard — as do the intertwined US and Israeli flags in AIPAC’s logo.

Indeed, just two paragraphs below, Ben Shapiro illustrates the point by stating, “I spend a lot of my time promulgating what I think are Judeo-Christian virtues.”

*sigh*

Even in a cultural milieu in which socially prominent figures cannot ‘name the Jew’ without being permanently expelled from polite society, one can at least challenge degraded, Orwellian language which conflates incompatible Jewish and Christian values.

Priests and ministers should be the first and loudest to reject this false equivalence. Instead, they enthusiastically endorse it, which serves only to accelerate Christianity’s plunge into irrelevance.

In reality supposed justice department or govt is a con show, so is monotheism relign, made so people ‘obey. That they pay no ‘tax would be a clue. Supposed atny general pretending to ‘interrogate’ another con is distraction, if the person or ‘govt amounted to anything they would have disbanded ‘courts’ and booted the supreme cons for the ‘kelo v new london ‘decision’ theft claiming govt can take private property and hand to other private. That will include themselves and judges/lawyer cons, some states judges already profiting from foreclosures. And no media isn’t going to expose or change anything, media is a con to keep people ‘watching’.

There’s no paper law that matters, supposed abortion jabber, same time wiping out children worldwide, same time phony laws and police and courts false image con to pretend ‘stopping’ whatever when mass pigs can thieve and harass others and assault children as false courts jail only few and ‘free most, and jail good people instead. They let child assaulters change names so people don’t find their records. Wouldn’t matter if we shut down courts and dealt with rapists and other scum ourselves, problem is people ignoring so much -until the bs hits them, then is too late.

Put plain, supposed govt or media jabbering about children or abortion is to distract from the cons goals, earth destruction, nano slaves. They set up co-con ‘judges and scribbled themselves ‘absolute immunity’. Smiley cons including females made the fake cystems to do what they want.

There is no ‘hel, the cons have never been revenged against or put down in any serious way, obviously. They are making earth die though, ending what was once real hevan. Void. People have to learn to focus, local.

ps. supposed ‘flag is masonic.
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‘3 Jews is a coincidence and never to be spoken about again’.
Dave Chappelle

I’m not sure that spelling mistakes prove that much. Consider the letters Matt Walsh reads from unschooled farm boys in the Civil War. Without good spelling or punctuation, they seem better worded and more evocative than any letter I have read:

From 7.40:

Video Link

granting these ((Jew)) criminals gravitas and doing Zionist propaganda when you declare them “Jews” without the caveat that they don’t follow the Ten Commandments of Moses and therefore can’t be “Jews” even though they can be of Hebrew or Semitic background.

You have that exactly backwards.

Merrick Garland, like Benjamin Netanyahu, never had an ancestor within a thousand miles of Palestine. He is a Khazar Jew, a descendant of a Turkic-Mongol people from the area roughly where Ukraine is now. They converted to Judaism in the 7th Century. There isn’t a drop of Semitic blood in the lot of them. The only Semites are the people of the Levant, Palestinians and
Sephardic Jews among them.

And the Khazars follow the Mosaic law with a vengeance. Ever read Deuteronomy? Pull down and destroy all other nations, the rabbis taught the Judeans, and Jehovah will reward you by enslaving all humanity to serve you.

Is Go(o)d an accountant?
Must be a Jewish god doing deals?!
The law of life is very simple: harvest as sown.
The bad is harvested and the good gets its own harvest in time; offsetting is not.
To spread weeds and sow flowers does not cancel the weeds.
Did the Nathonson (natter’s son) give all the money back to those 75.000 patients?
Was there a single Pharisee to have real compassion for the bad doctor?
I suppose not a single Pharisee was willing to abort the bad doctor.
Churches with preachers and listeners are worse than brothels.
Mass partici-pants are dishonest, helpless exhibitionists.
Would you fuck your wife on the altar in front of anyone and especially villagers on top of it?
So why would you exhibit and have some priesty bludger rave about that which is most dear to you?
Would you have him carry on about your wife?

APAC and the ADL should registered as foreign agents of thr most ethical nation, Israel.

Marcus Eli Ravage – mark us eh liar savage:
“The followers of Jesus of Nazareth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed themselves into a brotherhood of pacifists — non-resisters, sharing their memory of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first nor the last.

Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale of its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non-resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.

This was the beginning of our dominance in your world. But it was only a beginning. From this time forth your history is little more than a struggle for mastery between your own old pagan spirit and our Jewish spirit. Half your wars, great and little, are religious wars, fought over the interpretation of one thing or another in our teachings. You no sooner broke free from your primitive religious simplicity and attempted the practice of the pagan Roman learning than Luther, armed with our Gospel, arose to down you and re-enthrone our heritage. Take the three principal revolutions in modern times — the French, the American, and the Russian. What are they but the triumphs of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic justice?

And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate you. At this very moment your churches are torn asunder by a civil war between Fundamentalists and Modernists, that is to say between those who cling to our teachings and traditions literally and those who are striving by slow steps to dispossess us. Again and again the Puritan heritage of Judea breaks out in waves of stage censorship, Sunday blue laws and national Prohibition acts.”
https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/03/a-real-case-against-the-jews-new-audio-version/
(While the savage tells many little truth he puts in a big lie of Jesus supposed to have been a Jew. Jesus was a Nazi, as the Jews denegrated Nazareans from the Aryan settlement of Nazareth. Jesus is Urvolk – Urahne – Uranus).

“Nothing speaks more to the salesmanship of a select few and the gullibility of the many than the success of the diamond industry.” (Thoughtful Pauses Ch 6)

I recently had several long conversations with an old Catholic priest in Miami. He agreed that the bishop for the Covington Catholic High School boys, who had immediately publicly denounced the boys and then later had to apologize when it became clear the boys were the victims of racist hate, not the perpetrators, had erred.

He agreed that the bishop had been more concerned with pleasing the New York Times than with pleasing God.

He also agreed in general that Christian civilization was disintegrating and the Church seemed powerless to stop it, and in fact was doing nothing to stop it.

He even allowed no universal eternal God could have a “chosen” people, and how the very idea was an obvious absurdity.

But when I identified, accurately, the Bolshevik period in Russia as the Jewish genocide of 66 million Russian Christians, his eyes grew wide with terror and our conversations ended.

Christianity serves the New York Times, not God.

This is absurd. The Traditionalists, Fatimists and Pius V Mass devotees highlighted the infiltration of the Church and the harmful effects wrought by that infiltration beginning in 1970 when Jones was still too young to drive. And then, according to his bio, in his early adult life Jones was a apparently a “fallen away” Catholic. So Jones is a relative new comer to recognizing Jewish influence in the Church.

Furthermore Jones’s regular (and ignorant) bashing of Traditionalists, Fatimists and Pius V Mass devotees is counter productive to his Jew Hunting, scandalous to the Church and works in favor of the Jews. Follow Jones if you will but you’ll follow him down the road to perdition paved by the Jews.

Death to Garland. ☠️

Orthodox Christianity has always existed. Neither papism nor protestantism can even be considered Christianity because they both reject the Nicene creed.

Western neo-platonic cults like papism masquerading as Christianity have been a satanic joke for over 1000 years.

The Jew should be encouraged to remain a Jew and NOT convert to another faith because once a convert, he will do his best to undermine the faith to which he has lately converted and that goes not only for Christianity but Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism and Zoroastrianism; the only safe creed from his sharp talons is Islam because they’re both two sides of the clipped coin.

“Nothing speaks more to the salesmanship of a select few and the gullibility of the many than the success of the diamond industry.” ( Thoughtful Pauses CH 6 )

Thanks for the video link.

I’m not sure that spelling mistakes prove that much.

My response to Folkvangr is at comment #49 if you’re interested.

Consider the letters Matt Walsh reads from unschooled farm boys in the Civil War. Without good spelling or punctuation, they seem better worded and more evocative than any letter I have read

Excellent point! That’s because for ages reading books aloud in general, and to the poor and illiterate in particular, was common practice in that neck of the woods. In fact, since music is an abstraction from language, it’s no surprise the two merged in the way that they did in that part of the country, giving us some of our greatest songs and songwriters.

Just to clear things up-

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3: 3

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3: 5

Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. John 3: 7

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 2: 22

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 1: 7

You have the right spirit but you miss some important details.

E. Michael Jones’s silence and “cold feet” about the internal infiltration of Jewish agents into the Church which lead to the 1970 heresies of Vatican II and the Judaized Novus Ordo Service contradict his self proclaimed public and fearlessness in Jew Hunting on the cultural and political fronts. And then there is E. Michael Jones’s barely disguised contempt for (1) the St Pius V Mass and its faithful devotees, (2) the Traditionalists and (3) the Fatimists which betrays something other than “cold feet.” Can you explain that?

So what are we to make of Jones, the Jew Hunter, who can regurgitate Catholic history up to 1970 and then falls silent? A man who appears to spend more lines of prose bashing the Catholic groups who are doing for the Catholic Church what Jones is doing on the culture/political front. This makes no sense. I’m not saying that Jones’s works about Jewish influence in culture/politics are not a significant contribution. I am saying that (a) his silence about Jewish influence on the Church since 1970 AND (b) his bashing of the Catholic Groups who would highlight it is contradictory and should not be so quickly dismissed.

Shamu wrote:

Vatican II/Novus Ordo Catholicism is merely ‘a form of godliness’ that always is easily abused by the forces of anti-Christ.

This is something I would expect to see coming from the pen of E. Michael Jones. It is superficial nonsense. The Vatican II Decrees/Constitutions are littered with heresies that have supplanted 1900 years of Catholic teachings; it is the bedrock of new and Judaized Church. It is anything but “godliness.” And it isn’t abused by external forces but infused into its followers from the inside. The 53 years of subsequent steep decline in the Church is impossible to miss.

In Vol I of The Revolutionary Jewish Spirit Jones, with clarity, pointed out that the Protestant Reformers used well-defined Judaized principles to radically alter the Pius V Mass into a Supper Service. Yet he ignores the fact that Archbishop Anabale Bugnini reported in his 1000 page autobiography to using the same Judaized principles in radically altering the Pius V Mass into what amounts to a Protestant Supper Service (the Novus Ordo Service). Yet Jones has a thinly veiled disgust for the Pius V Mass. This attitude should not be so easily ignored.

Why is this important? For the vast majority of the Church’s followers they wouldn’t know the Vatican II decrees if they tripped over them. What they do know about the Church comes from its most important prayer. The Chruch Fathers described the close relationship of the Rites and the Faith as lex orandi, lex credendi—-the law of praying is the law of believing. The Jews and their agents were masterful in following the guidance of the Church Fathers. The Protestant sects have multiplied in disunity and collapse since then. Since 1970 Churches and Seminaries have emptied. Jones is silent and bashes those who would point out the disaster caused by the Jewish influence. I’m all ears if you can explain Jones’s contradictory behavior.

Or perhaps you’ve been lied to and have no clue what you’re talking about?:

https://www.churchpop.com/2016/03/15/witnessed-millions-unexplanable-apparition-lady-zeitoun/

Who have I bullied by using history, facts and logical arguments? That I find E.Michael Jones’s behavior regarding the Catholic Church since 1970 suspicious is hardly dispelled by you.

Catholic Church history is littered with heresies among its priesthood and its lay. The Arian Hersey rivals the Vatican II Heresies. Long respected Catholic Theologians and the Code of the Canon Law both recognize the historical existence of heresies, their potential for arising and the remedies at the Church’s disposal. Try Again?

This certainly doesn’t disagree with any of my criticisms of E. Michael Jones’s silence about the disaster of the Vatican II heresies and the radical alteration of the St Pius V Sacrifice of the Mass.

What everyone fails to answer is this:

How does the fearless Jew Hunter, E. Michael Jones, explain his contradictory positions of:

1. Ignoring the disaster of the Judaized Vatican II heresies and the Judaized Novus Ordo Service resulting in a 53 year steep decline of the Church

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME

2. Bashing the Traditionalists, Fatimists and Pius V Mass devotees who HAVE highlighted the infiltration of the Church and the destruction wrought after 1970 ?

I read traditionalist literature regularly and have noticed no such commentary. They seem to focus on Modernists and Freemasons (as though it’s 1950), not Jews. The Jewish infiltration of the Church has been psychological rather than physical (the absurd notion that Jews are our “elder brothers in the faith” stuff). It’s straining the gnat while swallowing the camel. If you can’t publicly oppose the Synagogue of Satan, you haven’t much chance against Modernists or Freemasons either.

Before we get carried away with blame gaming – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2023/03/why-are-christians-awol-and-mia.html?m=0 – what happened to DaDisciples of Christ?

Yeah, I have long wondered about this. I am not a regular smoker. I will buy a pack of cigarettes a few times per year. Many of my most profound thoughts have come during the few times I was smoking. A couple of others have told me the same thing. The deep conspiracy theorist in me might wonder if this was the reason for the wholesale attack against smoking, even in moderation. There doesn’t seem to be any nuance to the demonization, which makes me wonder.

Good point.I have long thought M.Monroe’s ‘Diamonds are a Girl’s Best Friend’ a formidable pitch, whether or not intended as such; similarly the phrase blood diamonds
of assistance to the De Beers monopoly.

We are living through Purim. Book of Esther.

Thanks for reminding me of the advantages, uplift, and discovery of Consciousness in Buddhism. Also, the differences between the Western Churches and Orthodoxy are stark. Western Christianity is like moldy cheese, stale beer, and sour milk by comparison with all religions of the East.

The internal, infernal, lengthy, protracted putrefaction of the Catheter Church and the Protest Ant Church are not very interesting to me. I also am not interested if there is silt or rocks at the bottom of the shipping channel of the Malacca Straits.

Could someone tell me what happened to the oil sludge in Valdez, Alaska?

75,000 murdered host-nation Persians is what Purim (Book of Esther) is about. Hmmm.

is 75,000 an important number to Jews, like 6 million?

South Carolina is the state that has the largest production of tobacco. NY liberals hate all the South, but reserve a special hatred for SC. Does that inform you in any way about the choice of tobacco as the most hated agricultural product on earth since WWII?

We have to get away from the “judeo-Christian” mindset…
Using the “Old Testament” for “laws” is wrong. Yes, the Ten Commandments may be a good guide which proscribes certain behaviors, but the rest of mosaic law relies on a vindictive, vengeful “god” to exact “punishment” on “his people”.
That my work fine for jews, as they have their supremacist “Talmud” to rely on, but “for the rest of us”, it won’t wash.
Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
In fact, slavery (of goyim) is still condoned and encouraged in the jewish Talmud. In addition, the jewish Talmud condones pedophilia, allowing lecherous old jews to rape children as long as they are “three years and a day” of age.
The barbaric practice of circumcision (male genital mutilation) is also suspect, the mohel fellating the infant after the “deed is done” passing on (who knows what) STDs to the infant. Sick…
In fact, every jewish “holiday” (holy day) is based on the celebration of genocide and destruction of gentiles.
Our present troubles are a result of a jewish cabal taking over political decisions in our nominally “multicultural” country.
Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews and to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with (their) God was then “null and void”.
It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s whch was a “coup” by jews and Protestants.
I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism.
Jews DID murder Jesus Christ and TOOK FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING SO.
Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder.
As is the case, even today, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way)?
It makes absolutely no sense at all.
Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.
In a perverse sort of way, israel’s favorite “war song” is “Onward Christian Soldiers”…
There…I’ve said it…

Remember, the tobacco companies will stay in business as long as you smoke their shit.

Exactly…

There are powerful people who push agendas but it still takes those who carry them out. You might not be able to get to the “powerful”, but those who carry out these agendas for sake of losing well paying jobs will continue until they fear for their well being. I do not advocate violence but I would say if school boards, as one example, felt they might get their heads bashed in their decisions/actions might be less aggreges.

Goddamn Sir!

Well placed and well put.

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Don’t know much about EMJones….or the things other Hyenic hearts accuse him of. No clue. Don’t pretend to care either.

I will say that he writes extremely well….and I can’t help but admire his tenacious defense of theological propositions that neither he , nor anyone else who is currently breathing ,has even the remotest clue about.

At least he’s able to make a living.

Does anybody know? Is he on Jewtube? That’s the surest sign of sincerity we have now, in this surreally low-trust society of poisonous Kikery .

Judeo-Christian, the oxymoron of oxymorons.

Well said insight. I think takes the edge off just slightly, pushes aside chatter, more room for your own thoughts or contemplation, or as you put it profound thoughts. Those with agendas aren’t interested in our contemplating.

I smoke though more cigar-like, only partially inhale. Best is just roll your own, basic manual injector, paper tubes w/filters, or just no filter, use simple roller and don’t inhale much. Was buying whole leaf and shredding, recently buying pre shredded. Initials of packaged shredded I think is ok, GS in the silver.

Good reply.

Jones defines what he means by Jew; any person born if a Jewish mother who has not converted to Catholicism

He does all the time in his magazine “Culture Wars.”

Why can we not speak of the “religious left” in the same way that others speak of the “religious right?” The religious left is Jewish ppl whose modern Judaism teaches that THEY are the Messiah, and that their messianic mission is to create a one-world government (preferably with themselves at the top) which is referred to as “Tikkun Olam.”

The word ‘Jew’ didn’t come into usage until 16th century Europe, when it was used to describe followers of the Talmud.

Someone else made a similar claim back in December. The claim is so easily refuted, however, as to make me wonder why anyone would make it!

Here is one specific refutation of the claim, and here is another. Furthermore, the word “Jew,” used in precisely the same sense that it is used today, can be found in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle and the earliest Old English translation of Bede’s Ecclesiastical History of the English People, both dating from the tenth century (Bede’s famous work was written in Latin in the eighth century).

If it’s a belief which is contradicted by evidence, it’s a religion….or a scam, being presented in religious dressing.

I calls ’em as I sees ’em.

If you don’t agree with my theory about Jones then explain the question I have repeatedly asked but no one, including you, has answered:

How does the fearless Jew Hunter on the culture/political front RECONCILE his regular bashing of the Catholic Groups who pick up that ball on the Church front?

… beginning in 1970 when Jones was still too young to drive.

Hyperbole? Jones was born in 1948. In most states, a driver’s license can be gotten prior to age seventeen.

September 22, 2022 Babies react to taste and smell in the womb

Direct evidence that babies react differently to various smells and tastes while in the womb.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/09/220922103255.htm

Nov 10, 2022 The *INCREDIBLE* Effect of Abortion Victim Photos

Have you ever heard the claim that abortion victim photography is ineffective?

Video Link
Margret Sanger!

Great. I assume you’re a subscriber and can offer a couple of citations with a few quotes wherein Jones identifies Vatican II decrees as harmful and attributes them to Jewish infiltration of the Church. This should be enlightening.

One of the ironies of pop-culture history was that the audience was supposed to despise the Archie Bunker character.

I heard Carrol O’Connor, the actor who played Archie Bunker and who was an extreme lib, interviewed on Larry King’s late night radio program back in the 1980’s. He was absolutely upset how much everyone loved the Archie Bunker character, and his views on life, society and politics.

What really pissed him off the most were the callers who addressed him as Archie, not Carrol or Mr O’Connor.

It’d be a lot cooler if Tulsi Gabbard named the Jewish Power.
Biden’s administration is JAB or Jews-around-Biden. Biden is a senile goy puppet who has no idea what’s going on. Jewish Supremacists around him and the Jewish-run media and deep state decide everything.

Btw, what Gabbard says of Merrick Garland and FBI is no less true of the Florida GOP that is trying to censor speech critical of Jewish Supremacist Zionism.

Video Link

And you don’t think modernists and freemasons are agents of the Jews.

Dutchboy wrote:

The Jewish infiltration of the Church has been psychological rather than physical (the absurd notion that Jews are our “elder brothers in the faith” stuff).

This claim borders on the nonsensical. Perhaps you’re suggesting that the agents of the Jews (freemasons) were channeling to John XXIII, Paul VI, JPII, Benedict XVI and Francis and the evil spirits took over their bodies forcing them to promulgate, foster, teach and enforce the heresies of Vatican II. Nonsense and absurd.

1. How do you explain the heresies scattered throughout the Vatican II Decrees/Constitutions? The level and extent of the heresy required a concerted effort during the Council by a significant number of Judaized prelates and heretical theologians. Hell there were schismatic protestants invited and present at much of Council who apparently contributed. Why on Earth do you invite schismatic Protestants to a Catholic Council? Did the freemasons perhaps capture select prelates during the Council (including Paul VI) and waterboard them programming them to create the heretical Vatican II decrees?

2. Why did Paul VI throw away 1000 years of its common Church Liturgical Rites in the form of the Pius V Mass to something that is barely distinguishable from a modern day Luthern Sunday Service? Maybe the agents of the Jews threatened Paul VI’s family members.

3. How do you explain both John Paul II and Ratzinger inviting Hindus, Budhists and African Witch Doctors to a Catholic Church Alter at Assisi, Italy over the course of several years? Apparently the freemasons had some lever against these two forcing them to desecrate a Church alter.

According to you all these long term disasterous actions can’t be the result of a long term plan carried out by a collection of infiltrated agents of the Jews (freemasons) they can only be the result a large group of weak minded Catholic prelates who do the bidding of Jews and their agents whenever they get the evil eye from such agents. Poppycock.

…and imposing ever longer

On that goodwill he conspired to prey

On every mortal weakness, through bribery

And subterfuge and flattery called counsel

Gaining trust and power in council

Till at last he held the purse of nations,

And by and by their destinations,

In his hands. By his leverage of debt

Their treasuries, lands and wills were forfeit

To his benefit, and legislatures

More and more became his creatures

And their laws became his laws,

Written to serve the Father of Lies.

Good one!
My son was in “Marine Intelligence” and hated that oxymoron,
especially coming from the lips of CIA creeps who had strong
leftist leanings.

AG Garland since he took office had been persecuting White CHRISTIAN Catholic conservatives relentlessly. AG does not enforce the Constitution of the USA, Garland obeys the Talmudic principles of Judaism anything else is anathema to his religion. The AG is nothong short of a fanatical Talmudic Jewish Pharisee with a personal vendetta to destroy Christian America in general and Catholics in particular. The other side of that dark agenda is the complicity of the Catholic Hierarchy and other Christian denominations that willingly embrace the gay/lgbt/woke/ANAL agenda. The silence of the Vatican Rome is disgusting but understable under this judaizing Pope. I have come to the conclusion/epiphany that the very last hope for AMERICA and the West is a new Counter CHRISTIAN REFORMATION.. After the collapse of the Roman Empire abdthe rise of the Muslim Persian/Ottoman Empires (with help of the jews) only and only CHRISTIANITY/Catholicism gave the WESTERN kingdoms the strength to unite/unify to fight the moors. In fact CHRSITIANITY provided the glue for the unification of Spain/Portugal/Germany/Austria/France/Italian peninsula..Christianity saved the West, The church provided the SPIRITUAL/ideological/POLITICAL/intellectual force to expel the moors. A similar role played Orthodox Christianity in Greece/Rumania/Bulgaria/RUSSIA/ etc. Maybe Trump/Putin are right we are in the midts of a HISTORICAL pivotal battle forthe future of the ChristianWest. The outcome of the Ucranian War will decide the fate of Christian Eurasia..IF Russia loses the Christian block of resistance Eastern Europe (Hungary) will collapse. the woke/jewish/zio/ANAL anti Christian agenda will follow. The same battleis being fought inthe USA the upcoming batlle will be decided in the 2024 elections (fraud?) it will decide the future of America jewish/woke/anal/globalism vrs MAGA America First ..who will win. Another brick on the wall..of Jewish woke/Talmudic/anal/Financial/ GLOBAL.. olygarchy..

You claim Protestants are Judaizing.

Do you deny Jewish influence in Catholicism or even Christianity?
Were not Peter and Paul Jews?
Was it the Jews who wrote most or all the Bible??

Even if Protestants have more Jewish like views than the Catholics,
there are certain ideas where Catholics seem to win out too.

What religion was Jesus and company at the time of Rome if not Jewish?
Jews existed before the Talmud. They came in forms of Pharisees, Sadducees, and so on.

Did not Christians exist before the bible was written (70-120ad?).
Over time through councils and revolt Christianity was changed.

Or are you thinking solely in terms of tribe, ethnicity, peoples?

Who are the Jews……and who they are not?
https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2021/06/who-are-jews-and-who-they-are-not.html?m=0 – that’s just the beginning.

“the most awkward of the awkward questions”

Well, now we know where Shapiro shops for phrases.
At The Department of Redundancy Department.

Be that as it may, one would think that the most awkward of questions would be Why can’t Whites criticize jews the way jews criticize Whites? Is it because jews are perfect, or because they’re powerful?

Or, Why do jews demand that every other group in general, and Whites in particular, place them above criticism, love them unconditionally, and blindly obey their every word, or else? Is it because jews are perfect, or because they’re powerful?

Or, Israel a Demoracy? How can anything jewish be democratic?

I could go on but I’d never finish. Besides, any number of TUR’s great commenters could easily add to and improve upon that list of questions we could ask Shapiro.

Great essay Dr. Jones.

Thanks for the reference to the helpful work of Robert Sungenis and your magazine Culture Wars. There’s link below to his helpful essay on the clear revocation of the Mosaic Covenant and its replacement by the New Covenant.

Not being as familiar with the book of Acts as I should be, I had to search for the specific verses Dr. Jones references. (Quote from Dr. Jones essay.)

When Peter addressed the Jews after the Holy Spirit descended on the apostles at Pentecost, the first words out of his mouth in addressing the Jews were “You killed Christ.” “Cut to the heart” by Peter’s rebuke, the Jews asked, “What must we do to be saved?” and Peter told them “You must be baptized.”

(Quotes from the Douay-Rheims Bible.)

Acts 2:22-23 Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you, by miracles, and wonders, and signs, which God did by him, in the midst of you, as you also know: This same being delivered up, by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, you by the hands of wicked men have crucified and slain.

Shorter: Peter told the Jews that they had killed Jesus, the Son of God.

Acts 2:37-38. Now when they had heard these things, they had compunction in their heart, and said to Peter, and to the rest of the apostles: What shall we do, men and brethren? But Peter said to them: Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Shorter: Some of the Jews (the less evil ones) said “That was a mistake; what do we do now? St. Peter said, apologize to God and be baptized; i.e. stop being Jews and become Christians.

And three thousand Jews converted.

Regardless of what Bishop Barron says, Jews, Atheists, Muslims, all non-Christians are going to hell. And Bishop Barron has misled Little Benny down that path. I pray they both convert to Christianity.

https://culturewars.com/news/the-old-covenant-revoked-or-not-revoked

https://biblehub.com/drb/acts/2.htm

The descendants of the fictitious Abraham were the Hebrews (from habiru meaning wanderer, gypsy, bandit, etc.). The term St. John used to refer to those practicing the Talmudism of the Pharisees has been erroneously supplanted by the word ‘Jew’ in modern translations.

Hebrews in the bible, descended from the citizens of the Kingdom of Judah, were called ‘Judeans’, which is a geographical reference to their place of origin. Assuming Jesus was born in Bethlehem (who really knows?) he could have been a Judean, But, given that he was oft referred to as being from Galilee, which was not in Judea, he probably wasn’t even Judean.

There were absolutely no “Jews” in the bible, unless, of course one understands the ideological legacy of the Pharisees present in today’s Judaism; any translation of the Bible in which “Jews” are cited is a flawed, uninformed translation.

Hurray!

Yes, it’s a matter for amazement that Catholics are bashing each other. I’m not happy with disparaging either BXVI or the Tridentine Mass (which I go to), but now is the time NOT to behave like Protestant denominations.

Point #3, Ratzinger didn’t invite anyone to Assisi. He was invited himself and declined.

Your two examples serve to support my contention.

There is no doubt that, while the word “Jew” did not appear in the original text in either of your examples, I will grant that some precursor to it did (e.g., Gyu, Giu, Iuu, Ieuu, Ieuy, Iwe, Iow, Iewe, Ieue, Iue, Ive or Iew, all of which eventually evolved into ‘Jew’, which first appeared in 1775 in a play by Sheridan called The Rivals).

This, however, is not where the important distinction arises. What matters is that all of the versions of the word listed above are mere corrupted interpretations of the word Iudaeus, which was the Latin word for ‘Judean’, the aforementioned geographical reference for those hailing from Judea at the time of Jesus. The important mistake consists, not in the evolution of the term itself, as often occurs through common usage, but the shift in the people to whom the term refers.

The misconception is in assigning the word Judean to mean Talmudist (or Pharisee, a specific group of Judean) instead of its original geographical usage intended to describe all who came from Judea. While there was clearly an intersection of these two groups, Judea was also the home to many Hebrews who were oppressed by the tyrannical rule of the Pharisees (precursors to the Talmudists (or Judaists)) as well as many non-Hebrews. It’s reasonable to assume that those oppressed Hebrews and non-Hebrews would rather not be lumped in with their oppressors.

Today, the word ‘Jew” does not mean ‘Judean’ per se; it means a follower of Judaism, also known as Talmudism, which is the successor ideology to that of the Pharisees, to whom Jesus was decidedly opposed, even to his death. Jesus might have been a Hebrew, and, depending on his place of origin, might have been a Judean, but in no way, shape or form was Jesus a Jew. The only Jews in the bible were the Pharisees.

Jesus was a Hebrew, which, in his day and age, was not the same as being a Jew, a term, which didn’t even exist at the time.

The term ‘Jew” evolved, through many iterations ((e.g., Gyu, Giu, Iuu, Ieuu, Ieuy, Iwe, Iow, Iewe, Ieue, Iue, Ive or Iew), from the word Iudaeus, which was the Latin word for ‘Judean’, the geographical reference for those hailing from Judea at the time of Jesus. The important mistake consists, not in the evolution of the term itself, as often occurs through common usage, but the shift in the people to whom the term refers.

The misconception is in assigning the word Judean to mean Talmudist (or Pharisee, a specific group of Judean) instead of its original geographical usage intended to describe all who came from Judea. While there was clearly an intersection of these two groups, Judea was also the home to many Hebrews who were oppressed by the tyrannical rule of the Pharisees (precursors to the Talmudists (or Judaists)) as well as many non-Hebrews. It’s reasonable to assume that those oppressed Hebrews and non-Hebrews would rather not be lumped in with their oppressors.

Today, the word ‘Jew” does not mean ‘Judean’ per se; it means a follower of Judaism, also known as Talmudism, which is the successor ideology to that of the Pharisees, to whom Jesus was decidedly opposed, even to his death. Jesus might have been a Hebrew, and, depending on his place of origin, might have been a Judean, but in no way, shape or form was Jesus a Jew. The only Jews in the bible were the Pharisees.

I stand corrected with regard to Ratzinger. Nonetheless the atrocious event occurred at the direction of JPII. No Catholic in his right mind would have done such a thing, least of all the Pope.

In any event this hardly saves Dutch Boy. Did you really hope to remediate Dutch Boy’s nonsense that Church prelates during the Vatican II Council weren’t freemasonic infiltrators perpetrating the heresies of Vatican II but were instead faithful Catholic prelates somehow under the psychological influence of freemasonic will beyond their control? The Secret Elite are undoubtedly powerful, but I doubt they’d master mind control at a distance in the late 1960s. Just sayin’. . .

Not hyperbole but a goof on his age in 1970. This hardly effects the strength of my argument. Jones was nonetheless young and before the limelight of his Jew Hunting days. The Traditionalists, Fatimists and Pius V Mass devotees whom he regularly bashes were fighting the good fight before he came on the scene.

Wow. i have no way to overcome the constant application of jewish fault lines for every issue.

The US has discussed the matter of killing children in the womb for 100 years plus —

no jews or jewish fundamentalism need apply.

By the early seventies of the first century after Christ, the time of the whole-cloth creation of rabbinic Judaism, the Hebrew people were effectively no more. They were Jews, and they knew themselves to be Jews.

I am aware of the differentiation that some students and scholars make between “Judean” and “Jew,” but I consider it factitious and argumentative. Frankly, I also fail to see what is to be gained by fretting about the ethnicity or nationality of Jesus in His time on earth. God’s reasons for revealing Himself in the flesh through the Jews/Hebrews, as well as His reasons for creating the canonical Scriptures through the instrumentality of Jewish “authors” (who were, of course, actually just scribes), are His and His alone. I hope that I shall be fortunate enough to get some insight into them when I join the Great Majority of humankind in the postcorporeal dimension of life. In the meantime, I am content with Christ’s own words to His enemies in John 8:31–59, as well as Paul’s comment in 1 Thess 2:14–16.

In short, we disagree on these matters—amicably, I hope.

As for Latin—this comes from someone who studied Latin for four years in high school and a year in college—the universally esteemed Latin-English dictionary first published in 1879 by Charlton Lewis and Charles Short (under the title A Latin Dictionary) declares that “Iudaeus” was used to mean both “Judean” and “Jew” in classical Latin as well as in postclassical and Late Latin. The other two Latin dictionaries on my shelf concur.

Finally, I don’t see how you can dismiss words written in Old English (Bede and the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles) and Middle English (Chaucer and Edward I) as somehow not as “legitimate” as the Modern English form “Jew.” Surely you don’t also similarly dismiss “juif” and “Jude”! How about the two Italian words used interchangeably for “Jews”: “Giudei” and “Ebrei”? (Dante frequently uses “Giudei” in the Divina Commedia to refer to all Jews—Abraham and Sarah, Judas and Caiaphas, and many others—whether from the pre-Christian or the Christian era.) All of these are words in European languages that, in one form or another, represent the modern—i.e., post-70 AD—understanding of what a Jew is.

I wasn’t suggesting that it weakened your argument. I was simply asking—as I indicated—whether you were being hyperbolic for rhetorical effect. You have given me the answer; viz., simply a goof.

Considering that God is all-powerful, eternal, infinitely intelligent and good, if you reject him He will respect your choice. But if you repent, as you are infinitely smaller when compared to Him, nothing that you could have done can possibly harm Him, or take anything away from His glory, you’re applying human categories to God who is the creator and ultimate owner of everything. You’re attempting to put limits on God, but looking from the outside, from the perspective of eternity, whatever happens here is otherwise meaningless, except for the purpose of choosing where we want to spend it. The belief in the afterlife implies you shouldn’t be worried at all about dying or being killed; but thou shalt not murder, as it is turning, and moving away from God, and He will let you go in that direction all the way to Hell, as His gift to you- your will- is free.

Viva Cristo Rey!

… Church prelates during the Vatican II Council weren’t freemasonic infiltrators perpetrating the heresies of Vatican II but were instead faithful Catholic prelates somehow under the psychological influence of freemasonic will beyond their control …

It was Marcel Lefebvre’s opinion that a great many Council Fathers were simply bullied into submission by a radical minority. For example, everyone remembers the Ottaviani Intervention, but how many know that Cardinal Ottaviani later buckled under to what he viewed as legitimate papal authority, voted with the majority, and said the conciliar mass for the remainder of his life?

Very few understood what Lefebvre understood: that Authority and Doctrine were no longer functioning in tandem and so the choice of one or the other had to be made.

All I know is that if Republicans don’t push for a compromise federal law allowing the 15-week window for legal abortions than they will catapult the Democrats and therefore the progressive Jews and liberal Plutocracy into power for more than 1 election cycle. Clarence Thomas or whoever put Roe vs Wade in his lap before the midterms did not help in slowing the neo-Marxist shit show and only accelerated it.

I smoked cigarettes for 30 years,the last 10 of which were spent trying to quit.A few years after quitting I developed ulcerative colitis,an auto-immune disease, and had two sections of my colon removed.

I was prescribed mesalamine,an anti-inflammatory drug. Mesalamine controlled the UC but had negative effects on liver function.When I tried to taper off the drug the colitis returned with a vengeance so I resumed the meds.I had become fond of my colon and my liver,so it was a hard choice.

I did considerable research on NIH and learned that nicotine is a powerful anti-inflammatory agent and that a large number of people develop UC after they quit tobacco,but the relationship is not clear,maybe because there’s no money to be made in researching nicotine.

I will never smoke again because of the health risk so I began taking nicotine lozenges,12 mg total daily and stopped the meds.Three years now,no UC and perfect liver function.As a commenter above said there are mental benefits also, but I doubt that I would take nicotine for that reason alone.Of course its addictive but so is living.

Medical stuff can be boring unless you are the patient, so I apologize for that.

… the Tridentine Mass (which I go to) …

As do I. It is now twenty years since I last attended a conciliar shindig. Following the long-standing counsel of Archbishop Lefebvre and the bishops that he consecrated, I stay home on Sundays when illness (alas, now frequent) or other circumstances make it impossible for me to get to a TLM, even though my nominal parish church is a ten-minute walk away. On the other hand, I know several truly devout Catholics who simply do not see that conciliarism is a shell game. I suspect that you pray for such people as earnestly as I do.

Were not Peter and Paul Jews?

Paul, a pharisee, was ideologically aligned with today’s Jews.

Peter, a Hebrew, was not.

See my comment at #152 re health benefits of nicotine.

Your response had all the signs of “character assassination”. ٩(^‿^)۶
And you went through all that trouble just to say you hate my guts because my opinion differs from yours?

It is all insane, lost in vain, lost in pain;
Jews could not and can not murder Jesus Christ.
To believe the Jews’ crucifixion story is a trap.
Out of that, the cross trap envelopes (to cross off) by nailing naive (innocent) believers to the cross of priests & politicians (Jews & Cryptos) and their Moses religions.
Let nothing come between you and God; no priest/rabbi, no politician, no preacher (incl. myself), no wholesale scriptures, no church, nothing – nothing is a allowed to go inbetween God & man, because man is God made.
Does a father like another creature or thing stand between him and his child? Does a child like that? (Yes, in painful confusion; confused by the tools of the negative force).

it so much easier to destroy than to build. it will take decades after decades to build a city, but a few seconds to wipe it out. to carry a baby to full term, deliver by suffering birth pangs, then care for the baby the next 18 years is the most difficult, if rewarding, labor. in contrast, murdering the new life by abortion requires only a few minutes and a deadened conscience. the abortionist wins every time and the baby has no chance unless protected by his/her parents and the legal code.

in every tribe there are wicked and immoral people who relish practicing evil. Jews are no exception. the atheistic ones hide behind the label because of cultural and historical reasons. there is also strength in numbers. yet, they are not all Jews but some of them belong to the synagogue of satan.

there are many kinds of blessings. earthly or heavenly, material or spiritual, physical or intellectual, of longevity or of beauty, etc. one could be filthy rich or very learned and not get saved. there is no salvation without faith* in the Son of God. to say otherwise is to make the suffering of Our Lord in vain, to contradict the testimony of God in the Holy Scriptures. God forbid!!!

John 3:18
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Acts 4:19
But Peter and John answered and said to them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you more than to God, you judge.

*James 2:20-21
But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?

I sure take your points as valid and I would not play the devil’s advocate. I hope that Dr. Jones does reply to your inquiry.

I can only think of one valid reason to have a devout Catholic turn a blind eye to the shortcomings of the Roman Curia and that is none other than the experience of the reformation of Martin Luther that had many valid points but ended up splitting the Catholic Church and giving the Jews a golden opportunity to colonize the Protestant societies while practicing an unbridled exploitation through usury and other means of financial chicanery starting from Netherlands to Britain to the USA. Also looking at the thousands of Protestant denominations where, courtesy of Luther’s “ Sola Scriptura, “ anyone can interpret the Gospel according to his proper understanding leads to unending divisions among the Protestant masses.

Maybe the private persona of Dr.Jones is far more critical of the Vatican prelates but this is just speculation on my part. Dr.Jones’s public silence on these issues compromises his defiance of the Jewish zeitgeist that has taken hold of Western societies. But his contribution in the fight for the release of the truth from under the Jewish media pall is not to be belittled.

I get a little consolation when looking at the other side of the Vatican establishment when I see bishop Williamson and Archbishop Vigano vigorously stand their ground on many social and political issues in open defiance to the Popes but without threatening a new schism within the Church.

However, as bad as Vatican II is, it is the crowning of a long period of rot in the Catholic Church which started with the Renaissance when the Church gradually slid into usurious practices where up to the fifteenth century it was forbidden to all Catholics to the point that the Church would not pray on the corpse of any Christian usurer. Dr.Hoffman dwells over the issue in scholarly way in his book “ Usury in Christendom.”

Lionsgate–you are full of .. Lionsgate writes:

Jesus was a Hebrew.

Jesus was descended from King David! Making him a Jew! He was of the Tribe of Judah.

Beginning of Matthew:

1The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;

This is the KJV–but right there—Jesus WAS NOT A HEBREW—But of the Tribe of Judas, i.e. Judah–making him, in the Anglicized version, a Jew.

Furthermore, the testimony of Pontius Pilate—he wrote the message nailed onto the cross “The King of the Jews” in three languages. Jesus was a Jew. Of the Semetic family of “Hebrews”. Duh.

“they don’t follow the Ten Commandments of Moses and therefore can’t be ‘Jews’ even though they can be of Hebrew or Semitic background”

Both you and Jones agree that biology doesn’t define jew.

You’re both wrong.

And who was back there, 100 years ago, pushing for abortion and performing most of the abortions on white women and black females?

Jews.

Your comment is certainly no defense of Dutch Boy who asserted that external forces slone were sufficient to convert the Catholic Church into the Vatican II Church. A church which would largely be unrecognizable to the Apostles. The Vatican II Novus Ordo Service is almost indistinguishable from a Luthern Service.

I never contended that all or even a majority of the prelates were freemasons or otherwise agents of the Jews. And history largely shows that, the Elders of Zion, the Secret Elite, the Illuminati, the Cabalists, the Talmudists operate with the same tactics, the same goals and in small hidden groups with influence over nations and other entities that they develop over decades.

For example, a well-placed but small collection of Jews/Communists in the Executive Branches of the US Gov’t have controlled our nation since Woodrow Wilson’s Administration. When Whitaker Chambers warned FDR that his State Department was infected with Jew Commies he told Chambers to go piss up a rope. The influential few can and have wielded power over the many. Things were little different at the Vatican by 1958.

While John XXIII convoked the Vatican II Council, Paul VI was the one who had a tight grip over most of what went on and what was to be an acceptable result. By the time Lefebvre and Ottavani realized how terribly wrong the Council had turned it was far too late to change the outcome. Paul VI had a tight grip together with a small coterie of other like minded prelates and so long as Lefebvre and Ottavani were unwilling to declare him a heretic he got his way. As I recall Lefebvre was a signatory to the Vatican II Decrees/Constitutions. Didn’t his biography gloss over that fact?

In 1970 the Catholic Church was transmogrified into the Vatican II Church which was something new and foreign to the previous 1900 years. The Church has been in steep decline since then by ANY measure one might produce. Who benefits from the destruction of the Catholic Church? The Jews and their agents.

And so I’ll get back to the central questions that virtually no one has been willing to tackle: Why does E. Michael Jones bash the very Catholic groups who point out the destruction of the Church via the Vatican II Council and at the hands of Agents of the Jews? Why does E. Michael Jones have a thinly veiled disgust of the St Pius V Holy Sacrifice of the Mass when this is the most important Rite and Prayer of the Catholic Church?

Being born in Bethlehem made Jesus a Judean by birth. Judea could have had various tribes/groups living there though. Jerusalem slightly north would often be multiethnic attracting many during big festivals or celebrations.

He was also a Galilean also. Passing Samaria he would reach Nazareth. Previously these were lands of the Israelites (who knows where they went).

Yet his religion was clearly Jewish (even if a rebel). He was called a Rabbi, taught at synagogues.
Pharisees and Sadducees were his enemies. And of course we also had Zealots and Essenes.
All 4 of these groups were divisions of Judaism (even if it was prior Talmudism).

Judaism evolved from polytheist to monotheist and so on.

I wrote a pretty critical and lengthy Letter to the Editor of Culture Magazine concerning an article Jones wrote wherein he besmirched Fatimists, Traditionalists and Pius V Mass devotees. Jones is the Editor. Amazingly he printed the letter (see Culture Wars, November 2021, Vol. 40. No. 11. Letters, p.5). He responded with a two line reply in the same issue by continuing ad hominem attacks against the same.

I canceled my subscription. I consider the man to be an authority about Jewish influence over western culture. I don’t consider him a trustworthy source of anything Catholic.

Levantine wrote:

I can only think of one valid reason to have a devout Catholic turn a blind eye to the shortcomings of the Roman Curia and that is none other than the experience of the reformation of Martin Luther that had many valid points but ended up splitting the Catholic Church and giving the Jews a golden opportunity to colonize the Protestant societies while practicing an unbridled exploitation through usury and other means of financial chicanery starting from Netherlands to Britain to the USA. Also looking at the thousands of Protestant denominations where, courtesy of Luther’s “ Sola Scriptura, “ anyone can interpret the Gospel according to his proper understanding leads to unending divisions among the Protestant masses.

Maybe, but there is no basis of resemblance between Luther and Jones in your analogy. Luther was rebelling directly against the Vatican largely because he disagreed with Catholic Dogma. He was a heretic. Jones is no heretic or theologian, he makes no heretical claims and therefore has no reason to annoy the Vatican directly. To the extent that he’s written anything critical of Vatican II, those issues don’t seem to effect any of his current writings.

Jones justifiably sees a Jew under every rock in every nation harming that nation; however, Jones completely ignores Jews influencing the city-state of Vatican City. The Vatican II Council and the behavior of all Popes after Pius XII have the strong odor of Jewish/Masonic/ Elders of Zion influence. The Church lead by those popes in the city-state of Vatican City has been in steep decline since 1970 and the beneficiary of this decline are the Talmudic Jews. This kind of stuff should be right up Jones’s professional alley yet he ignores it. Why?

Furthermore when the Traditionalists, the Fatimists or Pius V Mass devotees bang the drum he bashes them. Those groups want to turn back the effects of Vatican II which benefit the Jews and he bashes them. Does that make sense to you? Just sayin’. . .

If you are new to posting here, perhaps you shouldn’t be quick to assume there is no censorship just because you haven’t experienced it. Try contradicting an article written by Ron Unz himself about how to count COVID cases and see what happens. But to really test, you should have tried it 6 months to a year ago.

Your comment is certainly no defense of Dutch Boy who asserted that external forces slone were sufficient to convert the Catholic Church into the Vatican II Church.

Dutch Boy has shown on multiple occasions that he is well equipped to adopt and defend his own stances. Although everyone is glad to encounter agreement, Dutch Boy hasn’t solicited my help, nor does he appear either to want or to need it.

That being the case, you might at the very least do the normal adult thing of according me the courtesy of assuming that, unless I say otherwise, I speak and write for myself and for myself alone when I comment.

Have I made my position plain now? Unless I haven’t—in which case I’ll use smaller, even simpler words to spell it out next time—I shall leave you to do what you seem to enjoy most: figuratively pound the table and shout.

[The Vatican II Council and the behavior of all Popes after Pius XII have the strong odor of Jewish/Masonic/ Elders of Zion influence. The Church lead by those popes in the city-state of Vatican City has been in steep decline since 1970 and the beneficiary of this decline are the Talmudic Jews. This kind of stuff should be right up Jones’s professional alley yet he ignores it. Why?]

Totally agree. And the total refusal of the Vatican to debate Luther about his points, taking a haughty royal attitude towards him, did IMHO push the confrontation to the level of a new schism within the Catholic Church. The bishop(s) of Rome’s insistence to be called the Vicar of Christ and their refusal to treat the prelates of Alexandria, Antioch and Constantinople as equals was the major factor that led to so many divisions within the Catholic Church and made it easy prey to the enemies of Christianity. A coup d’etat within Vatican City is totally warranted provided the event calls the Judeo-Masonic cardinals to the light of public exposure and banishment from all ecclesiastical duties.

Pierre de Craon wrote:

Dutch Boy has shown on multiple occasions that he is well equipped to adopt and defend his own stances. Although everyone is glad to encounter agreement, Dutch Boy hasn’t solicited my help, nor does he appear either to want or to need it.

Methinks thou dost protest too much. Dutch Boy’s claim that the Vatican II Council prelates were controlled by external forces alone was even too much for you to swallow. He needed saving; didn’t he? And apparently seeing yourself as the authoritative white-knight you weren’t about to let Dutch Boy—whom you praise—go down without a rescue. Your unsolicited aide was aide nonetheless. That’s a no-brainer.

Pierre de Craon wrote:

That being the case, you might at the very least do the normal adult thing of according me the courtesy of assuming that, unless I say otherwise, I speak and write for myself and for myself alone when I comment.

But it obviously was not the case. And so doing “the normal adult thing” is, apparently, to defer to your authority which you seem to think holds some weight. Your frequent attempts to use “authority” as a means to leverage weak arguments seems to be your modus operandi. Sorry, but that don’t work on me. And finally, if you speak for yourself and yourself alone then I suggest that you stand clear of discussions which were not initiated by you or to which you were not a party. If you can’t stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen.

I didn’t assume anything of the sort. Let’s look again at what I actually wrote:

I’m a new poster to the comment sections of Unz Review but I can’t agree—at least not yet. For example, in Barrett’s latest article I made a posting disagreeing with every government lie about COVID and my posting hasn’t been removed.

I simply reported that I had not “yet” experienced censorship—-even though I had questioned the sacred cow of COVID in one of Barrett’s columns.

There are so many good articles coming from around the world refuting Unz’s claims about COVID that why waste the effort rubbing his face in it. Perhaps Unz owns stock in Pfizer. Our of curiosity have any of your comments been censored outside of critcizing Unz?

Get a grip, discourtesy is neither prudent nor persuasive. People jump in on comment threads because that is the nature of this forum.

The question of EMJ “bashing” traditional groups is an interesting one. Of course, he cannot be for clearly schismatic groups (like those derived from Lefebvre, who I am thankful existed). It is a reasonable position for a Catholic.

As to groups that use the “Extraordinary Rite” within the Church, like FSSP, Jones is not against them, IMO.

He, Jones, has said simply “Do not follow the Mass outside the Church”. He sees the Pope is persecuting that rite and the people who love it, but he knows that there is no salvation outside the Church. The apostolic succession is a sine qua non condition of the sacramental life and the graces it confers. So he tells the Latin Mass faithful not to go down the path of schism again. In short, pushed to the limit, he chooses “extra ecclesia nulla salus” over “lex orandi, lex credendi”.

Mind you, that does not mean that one cannot resist and defend the Tridentine Mass within the Church. If those nice Germans can win spaces for sodomy..

Jones is skeptical of Freemasonic influence in the modern world, I am quite open to it and to other semi-secret groups like YPO (Young President Organization) that use sect-like methods to promote the success of their members and their uniformity of thought. Nothing like indoctrinating the top tier for controlling a society. Good Sunday to you.

This kind of stuff should be right up Jones’s professional alley yet he ignores it. Why?

I cannot read Jones’ mind or anyone else’s. But I suspect because he is well aware of the danger of giving scandal, particularly to pious, simple people. Some things should be told as necessary, with a grounding in “the good fight” and a constructive focus on reform. You don’t need the shocked faithful rushing into Jewish Buddhism or some such. He has chosen the limits of his fight, and directs his followers to resist within the confines of civil society. I don’t think he is controlled opposition.

Yet his religion was clearly Jewish (even if a rebel). He was called a Rabbi, taught at synagogues.

Judaizers called Jesus rabbi. Clearly not.
Taught outdoors. Pissed on the Houses of Satan.

Anon[125] wrote:

Get a grip, discourtesy is neither prudent nor persuasive. People jump in on comment threads because that is the nature of this forum.

The notion that I had been discourteous to Pierre de Craon is nonsense. The definition of “discourtesy” is to make a rude or insulting remark. I did nothing of the sort. I merely suggested that a comment of Pierre’s—-directed at me—–had failed to rescue a weak position offered by Dutch Boy. And then I clarified why. I made no personal attacks.

Anon[125] wrote:
The question of EMJ “bashing” traditional groups is an interesting one. Of course, he cannot be for clearly schismatic groups (like those derived from Lefebvre, who I am thankful existed). It is a reasonable position for a Catholic.

In 1970 the Vatican II Church became schismatic with the previous 1900 years of Catholic Church doctrine. Generally Traditionalists, Fatimists and Piux V Mass devotees simply point out the heresies in the Vatican II decrees; they haven’t concocted new ones. In Volume I of his “The Revolutionary Jewish Spirit” E. Michael Jones pointed out that the Protestant Reformers radically altered the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass using several Judaized principles as their guide. It was Archbishop Lefebvre and NOT Jones who pointed out that Vatican II had used the same Judaized principles as the Protestants to create the Novus Ordo Service. Where is Jones on this? Noticeably absent. He bashes the Pius V Mass devotees while ignoring the Judaized Novus Ordo service.

While I also admire Lefebvre his SSPX took a decidedly schismatic approach to dealing with the heresy of Vatican II. The SSPX assert that the Vatican II Popes are not heretics; however, they nonetheless pick and chose what they will accept from the Vatican II Decrees/Constitutions. Catholics have no license to do so, so long as the Pope and his Bishops are not declared heretics. While Jones bashes several of the Traditional groups he doesn’t seem to be critical of the SSPX’s schismatic behavior.

Anon[125] wrote:

As to groups that use the “Extraordinary Rite” within the Church, like FSSP, Jones is not against them, IMO.

Jones has a thinly veiled disgust for Pius V Mass devotees and that Rite. The only “Latin” Mass that was permitted after Vatican II was the 1962 Rite which was already altered and a minor stepping stone to the Novus Ordo. Naturally Jones wouldn’t have problem with that.

Anon[125] wrote:

He, Jones, has said simply “Do not follow the Mass outside the Church”. He sees the Pope is persecuting that rite and the people who love it, but he knows that there is no salvation outside the Church. The apostolic succession is a sine qua non condition of the sacramental life and the graces it confers. So he tells the Latin Mass faithful not to go down the path of schism again. In short, pushed to the limit, he chooses “extra ecclesia nulla salus” over “lex orandi, lex credendi”.

How on Earth can the Pius V Holy Sacrifice of the Mass be “outside of the Church” when it was the Rite of the Catholic Church for the previous 1000 years? The Novus Ordo Service was altered by Bishop Anabale Bugnini at the direction of Paul VI using the same Judaized principles used by the Protestant Reformers 300 years earlier. So how can Jones characterize the Protestant Service as schismatic but the Novus Ordo not? He doesn’t explain, because he can’t.

Anon[125] wrote:

The apostolic succession is a sine qua non condition of the sacramental life and the graces it confers. So he tells the Latin Mass faithful not to go down the path of schism again.”.

What isn’t made explicit here is that Apostolicity is more than simply successive inheritance of the See of Peter. It’s successive inheritors must teach the same doctrine as the Apostles. That is the successors to the See of Peter must not be heretics. Vatican II Decrees have several heresies which effectively made the Catholic Church into something foreign. Popes who promulgate, teach and openly profess these heresies are themselves heretics. They have broken Apostolic Succession as heretics.

Anon[125] wrote:

In short, pushed to the limit, he chooses “extra ecclesia nulla salus” over “lex orandi, lex credendi

This is impossible—–one can NOT have one without the other—-because if one does not believe what the Apostles believed one is not within the Church. If the Novus Ordo was born of Judaized principles, Judaized will its members be and NOT Catholic. Positions such as this make Jones an ally of Talmudic Jews and not Catholicism. This is more serious than I thought.

By pitting “extra ecclesia” against “lex orandi” Jones implies that Church membership has nothing to do with what we believe. The vast majority of Catholics learn from the Church predominantly through attendance at its most sacred Rite, the Mass. The Novus Ordo Service has lead its members away from what the Apostles believed and how they prayed.

Anon[125]

Mind you, that does not mean that one cannot resist and defend the Tridentine Mass within the Church..

Unfortunately this is dead wrong and the term “resist” is typically an SSPX attitude towards the Vatican II Church. Unfortunately for the SSPX and those that follow them: if the Pope and/or his bishops are not declared heretics then a Catholic has NO right to resist or ignore any of their Ordinary and Universal Magisterial Teachings. Why would anyone need to defend the Tridentine Mass that had been the Church’s most precious Rite and Prayer for 1000 years?

Since 1970 and the promulgation of the Vatican II Heresies Catholic Churches and Catholic Schools have been closing at an alarming rate. The US Seminaries are mostly empty. Parishes that are still open often don’t have a Priest. Catholics have been fleeing the Vatican II Church in droves. They are already rushing away.

The Arian Heresy wasn’t solved by reform. A council was called and the heretics were outed and given an opportunity to abjure their heresies or be excommunicated. Similarly for present day Popes, Bishops and Priests. The Vatican II Decrees/Constitutions should be swept away in their entirety, the St Pius V Mass restored and the Novus Ordo swept away. Every Ordinary and Universal Teaching issued by the Vatican II Popes and Bishops should be swept away.

The policy of the SSPX is to recognize the Pope as non heretical but resist and ignore whatever they don’t like that issues from him.. The Catholic Church has NEVER given anyone this license. It is akin to the schismatic Protestants who declare that each person can decide for themselves how to interpret the deposit of faith. Each man is his own Pope. If this is what Jones does he is a schismatic himself.

What is the proper way for a Catholic to behave in the face of heresy by his Pope, Bishops and Priests:

Since, as St. Thomas Aquinas teaches, inferiors are bound to correct their superiors publicly when there is an imminent danger to the faith (Summa Theologiae, IIa IIae q. 33 a. 4 ad 2; a. 7 co.), and the Catholic faithful have the right and at times the duty, in keeping with their knowledge, competence, and position, to make known their views on matters which concern the good of the Church (Latin Code of Canon Law, Can. 212, §3), Catholic theologians have a strict duty to speak out against the apparent errors in the document. This statement on Amoris laetitia is intended to fulfil that duty, and to assist the hierarchy of the Church in addressing this situation.

If you believe that abortion is murder, if you believe that life begins at conception, how can you possibly agree to a compromise where it is ok to murder someone up to 15 weeks? That doesn’t make any sense. At some point you have to stand for truth, justice, and the value of life, and this is as good a place as any.

In any case, even with a 15 week compromise, do you really think these people will let up? They’ll never stop. These people worship Moloch, it is blood for the blood god.

In the bible, Jesus says the only way to the father is through him. You have to be a Christian in order to be saved. Anyone who denies this is not a Christian.

The bishop can theorize about one’s conscience being an aboriginal manifestation of Christ, but I don’t see anything to support that claim in the bible.

Neither the bishop nor the Roman Catholic Church appears to be Christian. The same is true for almost all the Protestant churches, and for the same reason.

Jones claims that the magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church is Christian and is unaffected by Vatican II and the many heresies of the Roman Catholic hierarchy. I don’t know enough to say whether or not this is true.

I think it is unfortunate that the most essential Christian doctrine – you must believe in Jesus in order to be saved – is submerged in intramural battles between Catholics and Protestants that have more to do with “churchianity” than Christianity.

A. Pagano wrote:

How on Earth can the Pius V Holy Sacrifice of the Mass be “outside of the Church” when it was the Rite of the Catholic Church for the previous 1000 years? The Novus Ordo Service was altered by Bishop Anabale Bugnini at the direction of Paul VI using the same Judaized principles used by the Protestant Reformers 300 years earlier. So how can Jones characterize the Protestant Service as schismatic but the Novus Ordo not? He doesn’t explain, because he can’t.

E. Michael Jones need to watch and read these
so that he will be able to explain next time
instead of wallowing in his ignorance is bliss.

The Novus Ordo Service was altered by Bishop Anabale Bugnini at the direction of Paul VI

Video Link

Paul VI

Video Link

the same Judaized principles

The Plot Against the Church http://holywar.org/txt/pinay/default.htm (free eBook)

Holy Serpent of the Jews. The Rabbis Secret Plan for Satan to Crush Their Enemies and Vault the Jews to Global Domination.
https://ia802304.us.archive.org/31/items/holy-serpent-of-the-jews-texe-marrs_202110/Holy%20Serpent%20of%20the%20Jews%20-%20Texe%20Marrs.pdf (Free pdf)

Talmud Unmasked http://talmudunmasked.com/

What is Judaism. http://judaism.is/

used by the Protestant Reformers 300 years earlier

Martin Luther: Saint or Sinner, by Fr Hesse

Video Link

Series of 12 videos on Imposter Popes are here
https://www.unz.com/ejones/of-camels-and-unitarians/#comment-6310356

https://www.unz.com/ejones/of-camels-and-unitarians/#comment-6310370

I agree but Jones is unlikely to be swayed.

Sadly he and a great many in the Vatican II Church see unity in heresy (under a heretical pope) as more important than what the Church has taught prior to 1970. Even though many of the Church’s theologians
1. have taught that heretics in the papacy are possible,
2. that a few popes in the pats have been heretics and
3. that the Church offers remedies for heretic popes
they can’t quite bring themselves to believe it. And so they’re being pulled under the water with the intentionally scuttled Vatican II ship.

You can’t save people that don’t want to be saved, but there are some who, when shown the light, will grab on to one of the life rafts.