Thank you.
Another great article here at T U R.
I very much appreciate this site and I wish that
somehow “we” could get another 5 BILLION people
to read… just this page, daily.O K, 5 million?Not even 50,000?

With the world I Q at 82, and seemingly falling,
It appears “someone” .prai$e

Good is good,and… evil isn’t…live is backwards?

Whatever.Read more books,say the author$…

The autobiography of Malcolm X, Roots, and The Nigger Bible are what I would recommend.

“Roots” is fiction. The article concerns non-fiction scholarship. Malcolm X as relates to the black nationalist movement, undoubtedly a good topic of research and study. But the “Nigger Bible?” I’m curious, is there actually such a publication?

How can one explain the belligerent position of the South on wanting to expand slavery to the West ?’

There was a type of “woke” fever in the North re slavery, and a pragmatic politician would have sought policies to cool the abolitionist ardor and not inflame it…..and, yet, despite their belligerence the South does not seem to have prepared for war , nor sought alliances with the UK (or others) that would have allowed them to secede..
The South’s approach to the question seems baffling from my 2022 perspective

I think your confused about the myth of “…the South on wanting to expand slavery to the West?” Not once, did any Southerner in writing or verbally express any desire or plan to “extend slavery” to the West. Not by intimation, inference or in any way whatsoever. It was simply a propaganda ploy from Northern abolitionists.

Furthermore, there was NO possible way to “extend” slavery anywhere. If you take from one place and add to another place that is a subtraction and an addition. That is emigration NOT extension. Labor laws are promulgated in each State. If a Southerner walks across the border into another State or territory then the laws of those States and territories apply. Southern political policy was that all the sovereign States and territories decided their own labor laws without interference from the central government where no such authority existed anyway.

To “extend” is to colonize. When Europeans colonized this country they brought the humans and the laws. An extension of the various Europeans such as the Anglo-Saxons, Dutch or Huguenots, etc.

So, either the South was emigrating or colonizing. It wasn’t colonizing because you can’t bring the laws of one State into another or into the common property of the country. Therefore, they were emigrating blacks out West. There is no other alternative. And it was never denied. It was first proposed by Thomas Jefferson to the first Continental Congress that blacks should have their own territory.

What was the mantra of the Northern Free Soil Party, “The West for the White Man.” The pretense of Lincoln, et al., was the propaganda of extending slavery. But no one believed it. A review of the periodicals of that period demonstrate that Northerners knew it was a nonsensical claim. Lincoln was a slaveholder and hated blacks. He wanted them out of the country and his railroad benefactors did not want black freedmen in the West. New England politicians wanted that land for collateral on debt and for their overflow population. It was never a secret. The speeches are in the Globe.

2/3rds of that Western land to this day is managed by the Bureau of Land Management. No one owns it. It is the collateral basis for the borrowings of the central government from that time to now. Governments can’t borrow without putting up collateral (land, the Crown Jewels, etc.). Indeed, that land has been collateralized since prior to 1800.

Remember the Bundys? What was that fracas about, watering and grazing some catttle on “Federal” land. The international bankers won’t even allow that. They want their corporations to mine that land or their corporate agri-businesses to grow grain and sorghum to sell to China.

American Negro Slavery by Ulrich Bonnel Phillips.

“The Tragic Era,” by Claude Bower. A great book about Reconstruction.

Really excellent article.
And may I second the author’s views on Shelby Foote? Foote’s history is majestical. One of the best narrative histories of any war.

“How Robert E Lee Lost the Civil War” by Bonekemper. Robert E Lee was fairly typical of the southern aristocracy……vain, egotistical, aggressive, and mainly not very bright. If the great man had stayed on his side of the Potomac and played defense, it is Bonekemper’s idea that the South could have held out indefinitely. Instead the great main marched into Pennsylvannia and instigated battles so bloody that a compromise with the North became impossible. Gettysburg alone cost him 1/3 of his white trash army. Lee probably thought of himself as another Hannibal roaming around the Roman countryside doing as he pleased for ten years after the Battle of Cannae.

The Nigger Bible is a collection of essays by 20th Century black nationalist and black separatist author R9bert H. deCoy, with an introduction by comedian, critic and activist Dick Gregory. I was not able to quickly find any biographical information about deCoy.

You tell them it was spectacularly stupid for Americans to bring over tons of blacks who got more muscle, louder hollers, bigger dongs, and savage nature.

If these bloody southerners had paid Irish a few shekels to work on their cotton fields and not imported “free” labor from Africa, America would have been different and better today. Sorry we don’t need to read the history of total losers.

I’ve read and agree with DiLorenzo’s books. What about the argument that Lincoln had to save the Union from the schemes of England and France to take advantage of a divided country?

First, there is the issue of secession and if the Southerners who pledged their loyalty and lives to the Southern Confederacy were traitors, if they committed “treason,” a phrase we hear far too often bandied about by the loathsome and ignorant pundits at Fox News and by their favored “conservative historians” like Allen Guelzo and Victor Davis Hanson.

I’ll grant that Victor Davis Hanson is an idiot, but I’ve been collecting the books written by Guelzo. I wouldn’t have guessed the man was a “Conservative”/”Republican”, but even if he is one or the other of those, I’ve found his history writing to be just fine.

It was Guelzo who clued me in on the fact that both McClellan and Meade were “playing to lose” in their battles against Lee. No wonder that old man managed to appear like a fantastic military genius in his fights against those two and the generic third-rate hacks who were the other commanders of the Army of the Potomac.

Lee was a genuine asshole as well as a traitor. His Gettysburg Campaign included a massive slave raid. Lee also turned a blind eye to the murders of Black Union troops and their white officers. The Civil War could not possibly be won by the South after the election of 1864, but like in 2022 Ukraine, the thing had to be strung out so that there were many tens of thousands more and unnecessary deaths. The “noble” old fart loved being “The Great Leader” too much to stop the slaughter.

The South and Reconstruction can be condensed to a few words: Massive White Terrorism and Highly Successful Propaganda Campaign.

This Author seems determined to try to rebuild the dream-world History created during that Propaganda Campaign. I’m not going to be wasting my time with any of the recommended books, but I’d bet most all of them are Fantasy, Garbage, or both.

If the war was about slavery then explain why

1. There were 4 UNION states (ky md de mo) that lincoln let practice slavery throughout the war. 300,000 black slaves combined in those states

2. There were many UNION generals that were slave owners throughout the war. Grant himself owned a slave and his wife owned a bunch of them.

3. When the war started Lincoln asked slave-owner Robert E Lee to be commander of all UNION troops

Whites are saps. Real problem is White Sapremacy

“The Peculiar Institution”, by Kenneth M. Stamp. 1956, but more recent editions can be found.

Agree with 7. Ximenes about “The Tragic Era”.

What I Would Tell a College Student: Recommended Books About the South and Its History
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I’d tell a young guy to get himself out of the dumb college and learn to be a good marksman and ready himself for Civil War II. No more need for reading any books.

The article concerns non-fiction scholarship

true, but “fiction” also can be very instructive: I have 7 or 8 books by Gwen Bristow, among which the Plantation Trilogy (Deep Summer, The Handsome Road, This Side of Glory) — a very welcome correction of my school book learning.

The phrase “those from the north to the North Pole and those from the south to the South Pole” (with slavery) , indicates a plan for a world slave project. And if you analyze the massacre that followed, it had a lot of support.

The “Nigger Bible” refers to the owners manual of certain models of automobiles popular among that cohort.

Hinton Rowan Helper, The Impending Crisis of the South is a must read.

The title of the Autobiography of Malcom X is a lie in itself, it was written by the same Alex Haley as Roots.

I have bought and read the former. It is entertaining and seems largely accurate, thouh wrong on some important points, unlike the latter, which is pure fantasy. I haven’t wasted any time reading it, a half-hour of a re-run of the TV show was enough.

Still, I threw my copy of the ‘Autobiography’ 　 away, just because it isn’t an autobiography, tries to glamourise crime. and includes a few obvious lies, particularly about the death of Malcolm Little’s father.

Booooooooooooring! You influence by seduction and persuation, not by facts.

My recommendation is Gone with the Wind. Entertaining, even to chicks, gives a positive account of the south and is so famous that it has clout, and a good read.

I thank Boyd Cathey most sincerely for this list of books, only about 70 percent of which I knew of and only a quarter of which I’ve read—and that last fraction is not one I’d care to be held to under oath. A tip of the hat to Ximenes, too, for adding The Tragic Era, by Claude G. Bowers (note the final –s). That fine book had a place on my shelves for at least fifty years, but at some point in this century, it secretly grew legs and sought out more congenial lodgings.

A new Dark Age is upon us—indeed, the events of the past two decades have shown that George Orwell was a cockeyed optimist—and being a few years older than Boyd, I shall not live to see its Satanic masters do their worst. I hope that at least some few of the readers of this column have the foresight to realize that keeping this admirable list will not alone suffice to ensure the reappearance of the truth at some point in the distant future. Copies of the books themselves must be bought and—as melodramatic as this may sound—must be carefully hidden, lest those who will certainly stop at nothing to destroy every copy in existence and the truthful picture of the past they represent succeed in their aims.

Get a copy of : ‘The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews’

It’s published by the Nation of Islam, but don’t let that put you off.

Four volume set that will answer 99% of your questions.
The first volume is 320 pages with over 1200 footnotes,
90% of which are from jew sources.

Absolutely priceless resource.

Ebay has the set for about $100.00.
Best c-note you’ll ever spend.

I’m reading volume 2 right now.

Keep the faith.

Slavery could not have been extended very far into the western territories because the land and the climate were not suitable for growing the kinds of cash crops that the institution depended on: cotton, rice, sugar-cain, etc. It was just too cold and dry there to set up successful plantations. And everyone knew it. What Southerners did NOT want was crazed abolitionists moving into western territories and then gaining control of the states as they were admitted into the union. And that is what happened.

This is by far the most interesting book about the history of America 1850-1870 I have read in last ten years.

I don’t listen to wetbacks buddy, pick a better handle.

I’m disgusted as to your assertion that the South was a “white trash army.” Yet, I think you are mostly right about Lee, personally responsible for tens of thousands of needless of Southern deaths.

It all goes back to Gettysburg, a battlefield I visited many times. In talking to a knowledgeable Park Ranger, he related that Lee’s army got to Gettysburg first, a day ahead of the Northern army. Yet, Lee chose to rest his tired men down in the valley instead of taking the high ground. That was an incredible lack of judgment for a general of Lee’s vaunted status. Allowing the North to take the high ground cost him a pivotal battle his army should have won. On the third and final day, Lee authorized Pickett’s charge, a completely suicidal order, in which hundreds of his men, marching uphill in 100-degree weather, were slaughtered in a turkey shoot.

The war was lost after Lee’s fatal error, and he should have sued for peace. Yet he allowed the war to drag on for nearly two more years, leading to thousands of additional deaths of both Southern soldiers as well as thousands of civilians in war criminal Sherman’s burning of Atlanta and march to the sea.

Lee’s refusal to capitulate when all was lost reminds me of Zelensky’s refusal to end his Ukraine War, fighting to the last Ukrainian soldier (though at the orders of the criminal Biden Regime). In my mind, neither Lee nor tyrant Lincoln were heroes.

It’s great to know that all these wonderful books exist but it can’t be hard for some scholar to write the complete and thorough history of the American South in multiple volumes a la ‘The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire” by Edward Gibbon. It may take a decade or two to write it but it would be worth it.

There you go again. Seriously, some black kid must have stolen your lunch when you were a school kid Or maybe you’re just lacking in the dong department.

Lighten up, man.

What I Would Tell a College Student: Recommended Books About the South and Its History

LMAO. What I would tell a College student: Your head was installed on your body not to wear your baseball cap back to front BUT to THINK.

You can study all the history (or anything else) you want and be able to recite key events by heart. However if you cannot think all you will be is an idiotic historian.

This of course will never happen. Logic is something you find under “L” in the dictionary and is sonewhat rare in everyday life. That is why we have people with Phds who are stupid ! The education system these days is geared to producing simpletons. The powers that be, morons themselves dont want anyone smarter than they are. In fact they dont want anyone with a functioning brain.

Thats the way it is you see and reading the history of the South will not correct this sad state of affairs.

I would like to read several of the books Dr. Cathey recommends. I have only read one South-sympathetic military history, but much fiction, Faulkner, watched Birth of a Nation, many more.

Cold Mountain was a terrhble film but popular in Japan because Jude Law and Nicole Kidman were at the peak of their popularity here at the time.

I bought and read the book, just because I expected it to be better.

The author claims a true family connection to the central character, Inman.

The narrative has obvious PC bs at times.

The points that pique my curiosity, though, are Inman being pursued to send him back to the collapsing front despite having a grievous wound from an earlier battle, and the depiction of fit men who had never even joined the fight, forming ‘Home guards’ to force people, badly injured or not, back to fight while never having done so themselves. It seems supid to me on both levels, to try to
send a badly wounded man back, and for cowards who never joined the fight to form home guards.

I know that Cathey never replies to comments here, but would appreciate a reply on those two points from a knowlegeable person on it.

Margaret Mitchell, Gone With the Wind [the Novel — and NOT the movie].

The rise of ISIL in Iraq, hardly at all understood in western world, and rise of KKK in 19th century US South — reading this novel and keeping in mind rise of ISIL in Iraq, similarities abound.

In both instances, Washington [and in Iraq, London’s] aim: destroy civilizations with brute force; and local responses to that, including rise of KKK, and ISIL.

Washington and Great Britain and the NATO/EU attempt to destroy Russia and its civilization, latest in a long line of this western hubris/destructions.

In this historical context, and 2022, it is clearer to more and more, despite the blinding purpose of the western propaganda viz. Ukraine, that Russia is hated simply because they are defending the actual enlightenment and actual Liberal principals — of the right to be free from [western] hegemony and tyranny, in the political, social AND economic sphere, and in terms of Religion and the Family.

Yet few outside the US South appreciate the actual Southern history and with the WOKE and Post Modernist anti-reality movements in US past two generations, it is basically considered almost treason to speak freely and clearly about our collective national history, viz. the South.

And so understanding in a fundamental way the Ukraine crisis is also blocked, on purpose, by enemies of the people, the western lords and masters [mega oligarchs] roaming the world in search of capital accumulation.

This particular form of “Liberalism”, a reification of Liberalism, which assigns to US/NATO/EU the ‘authority’ to define good and evil — has exhausted itself, Putin himself declared a few years back.

Yes it has. Replaced with myths and fairy tales, among them, NYT 1619.

This multi-century [western] hegemony no longer serves [did it ever?] as a project for the betterment of mankind.

As a footnote, it is my understanding that Russia calls this western ideology neo-nazi precisely because of the west arrogating to itself to be judge and jury of the world, and all this implies particularly related to the west picking and choosing the bad guys — based on a western-imposed conception of who are the ‘good’ guys and who are the ‘bad’ guys.

Since we’re all human beings first and foremost, this western project was always against the common man, for myriad reasons — of which Russia, now, is militarily challenging.

The contradictions in the west’s conception of itself now exposed for all the world to see, despite the western propaganda to pretend reality is not reality.

Essentially banning actual Southern history in our country was always a part of this propaganda, this effort to deceive, this grand deception, so as to keep us divided and prevent actual class consciousness, among other things.

Our country has been divided on purpose, based on lies and including falsifications of actual southern history.

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Under the stubborn stupid Lee, sharecropper’s sons died like flies to preserve the way of life of the South’s inbred aristocracy and the importation of even more cheap afro labor. Under the little weasel criminal Joolenksy, moronic ukie whites are dying like flies to preserve a vile wealthy jew elite. So your analogy holds. But much the same can be said for amerikan whites, moronically supporting wealthy jew dominated elites and their endless bloody overseas adventures and mass importation of non-white cheap labor. Whites appear to be sadly lacking in dignity and common sense.

One volume stands out as fundamental to any survey, any overview of the South, its history and culture, and the War for Southern Independence. It is The South Was Right! (2020) by the indefatigable brothers, W. Donald Kennedy and J. Ronald Kennedy.

The South wasn’t right, and I’m a Texan. Sack up! Admit when you are wrong.

Both the North and the South were wrong. It takes two to tango, and falling into a dialectic is for dumb people. MY SIDE YOUR SIDE! Don’t be that dummy.

The revolutionary war was the break away from something new created in London, namely Atlantacism. With the advent of the BOE, the first private bank to debt spread and control a country, history changed. King George was no longer in charge, it was parliament now in charge, and said parliament was ruled by string pullers in City of London. The City told George to demonetize Colonial Script, and this put the Colonies into a 10 year long depression.

Fast forward to the Civil War, and the North was trying to re-establish Industrial Capitalism (economic type of the Colonials). Industrial Capitalism requires high tariffs, so that a country can make its own industrial goods. The tariffs also fund the central government, so you don’t have to tax the people with income taxes. Industrial Capitalism is a revolutionary type of economy, and London finance capitalism was at war with it. Atlantacism finance capital is today at war with Chinese industrial capitalism.

The South was falling backwards into the Atlantacist colonial system orbit. They were selling their cotton and agricultural products to the English, and then buying higher value manufactured goods from England. The industrial increment of production was going to London, and city finance, rather than their fellow Americans. The south was also turning into an extraction economy, where the people go around poking holes in the earth, to become drawers of water and hewers of wood.

At the same time, the Southern Planters were buying negroes from the Atlantic slave trade. This was filling the south up with negroes, who were the equivalent of tractors, to then make the land produce, especially King Cotton.

The Planters would then tell their slaves how to vote, or that was the fear. In this way, a few planter oligarchs in the south would be the tail wagging the dog, and the American experience would be undone. The slave problem was getting worse, especially if they were free to vote their masters bidding.

The war was about the Morrill tariff. The South was obliged by the constitution to pay the tariff, as that is how the central government was funded. All of the elections of that era, would hinge on “How big is the tariff?”

The south didn’t want to pay, and they made up all kinds of chicken shit excuses, because they liked their negroes and the easy life of taking usury. Just like today, where Manuel mows the grass, and Maria gives good BJ’s, the same thing was happening in the south. Mammie can suck the chrome off of the trailer ball, while Rufus can pick cotton. The south would have become as black as Africa.

The North was equally chicken shit, as the mammonites present in the banking class, wanted to screw the south, and not rebate the tariff. Oh wait! Who were the Mammonites in the North, and who thought up and financed the Atlantic slave trade?

I keep hammering home the point that running a civilization requires sophisticated people who are trained for the job.

The money system is not something that is magical and finds natural balance with free markets, as if it is god. It is a control system in the same way as are laws and taxes.

Human monkeys operating with hubris and greed were in charge of the control levers in both the North and South. If you have to lean in a direction, the North was more right than the South.

” Lee also turned a blind eye to the murders of Black Union troops and their white officers. ”

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/07/27/the-brutal-reality-of-black-on-white-crime

The Brutal Reality of Black on White Crime

July 27, 2019/7 Comments/in Featured Articles /by Chris Roberts

Would you care to discuss the blind eye that YOU are turning to ignore the hundreds of thousands of Whites who have been the victims of black on white murders, rapes and assaults over, say, the last 62 or so years – which corresponds to the dismantlement of segregation and the forced integration of formerly White neighborhoods and communities across America?

Or, maybe you would be willing to offer your personal estimate of how many White lives were saved by the deaths of those black Yankee and white Yankee troops who you claim Lee turned a blind eye to?

After all, those White Yankees would have sired offspring, who would have become modern day White liberals who would love abortion and those Black Yankees would have sired generations of black kids who would have grown up hating and targeting Whites for their violence.

Just a ball park guess would suffice.

I used to view Robert E Lee through a lens of total reverence, until I read the book that the movie ‘Gettysburg’ was based on. I still respect him for his willingness to defend his home state and the South against Northern aggression, but Lee wasn’t the Saintly figure I once thought him to be.

I think that book title was ‘Killer Angels’.

His main weakness, as a war time leader, was that he was a Christian cuck. He grossly underestimated the ruthlessness of his opponents and stupidly clung to his noble and unrealistic desire to fight the war in a way that did not stray outside of his ideas of fairness, honor, and sportsmanship. The North and the Yankees were exactly like the modern day Communist-Marxist left are today; they did not let themselves be bound by any code of honor or sense of fair play. They were willing to lie, cheat, rape and kill Southern women and children. They were willing to murder senior citizens who were too old and too frail to fight. They were willing to burn the crops and farms of Southern Whites, to help starve them to death. Which brings to my mind the diabolically evil monster Tecumseh Sherman and his ‘march to the sea’.

Lee refused to realize that, when fighting an enemy as ruthless as the North was – he had to fight with an even greater amount of ruthlessness. Which is the same mistake that the modern day Republican Party has been making for the last 60-70 years. To defeat the democrats, they have to be 10 times more ruthless than the left is. Instead, we have gutless wimps like McConnell and the RINOs constantly capitulating and making concessions to the left.

There you go again. Seriously, some black kid must have stolen your lunch when you were a school kid Or maybe you’re just lacking in the dong department.

That’s you trying to invent narrative at variance with observable reality.

Anybody who has eyes in their heads, can go to a public skoool somewhere in America, and notice that racial types voluntarily segregate.

Or, go to a prison, and try to tell the negro gangs “to lighten up” while they are gang raping you.

When you immigrate wildly diverse human types into your civilization, then you are by definition creating friction.

Negroes were imported for cheap labor, in the same way, that “Chambers of Commerce” types today want brown people to immigrate, to then be cheap labor. High level brown people, such as Indians, are in alignment with the (((tribe))) and are good proxies to do their tribester master’s bidding. This is obvious if one looks at high tech corporations.

Keeping labor prices down is the goal of finance capital. Finance Capital and the “assets” it holds (finance paper or otherwise) is predicated on having a superior position relative to labor. It untaxes itself, and emits propaganda via owned press organs.

One of the propaganda myths is that everybody is the same, and to “lighten up,” and take your screwing without complaint. Your son gets his penis whacked off by some crazed woke woman, then you cannot say a peep.

Women are to be in the workforce, rather than be mothers. They are to be work units to become debt slaves. Finance is to take sordid gain anywhere in the world, and is to import low IQ types to be new debt-free labor, and if they give good BJ’s then BONUS! They can scurry about the house as nannies keeping things clean, and doing good labor “service.”

Plebes just need to shut up, while us “higher ups” can retire to our gated communities, and to hell with a low friction consensual type homogenous civilization.

From what I understand, the US civil war was about taxation and protective tariffs, which the South rebelled against.
“Freeing the slaves” was an afterthought to make the war more palatable to the North.

It seems that Americans can be easily lead to believe almost anything.

I don’t understand why so many men from the north joined the army, and abandoned everything at home, and went south, to invade, to kill, and destroy property of people that they never met or that had no impact on their own lives. They were killing their fellow countrymen, people that looked like them, talked like them, lived like them, had similar backgrounds, practiced religion in similar ways, etc….

The casualties were horrific. Why were these people so willing to do this???? And when the war was over most of them got nothing out of it.

Yes, volume 2 concerns Leo Frank? Very interesting and often even drsly amusing.

Why should Nation of Islam publication put off anyone? NOI espouses family and conservative values, self-help, and does not advocate for reparations, affirmative action, or welfare. If you find a black patriot defying mask mandates in public, there’s a good chance it’s a NOI type. The other blacks, generally speaking, couldn’t give a damn about freedom and liberty of action – same for the typical Hispanic. Asians, forget it, they’re obedient, order-following wimps.

One of the problems with modern people, is that they are mis-educated.

They sit in their class rooms, and receive didactic instruction from on high by the teacher, reading only approved textbooks. Don’t disagree with the teacher!

The only form of education that works, is the Greek Trivium System. This is classical education where the students go out and canvass ALL works of knowledge and even interview people who may have verbal tradition knowledge.

They then debate. By debating, they find consensus, and high agreement. The end result is somebody who has freedom of mind, and can think for himself… not easily duped.

Is it no wonder that most Americans are walking around like zombies, especially as they are educated now by the Teevee and an owned mass media.

It is pretty simple to use a bill money system, to then send undesirables back to their home country. But, then that would take a Sovereign King with Statesmanlike abilities, and sovereign money, which is impossible for a country run by privateering finance capital.

A book like “The American Negro,” by William Hannibal Thomas soon enough will not be allowed for virgin eyes to see.

Excerpt:
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I have now a word to say to a larger audience, —the American people, —because, in my judgment, the negro question embodies the most momentous problems that have engaged the attention of the nation.

I think I have fairly diagnosed the racial situation, and have pointed out rational and efficient remedies for the elimination of race disabilities, by putting within the reach of those who desire to free them selves from the thralldom of inherited degradation means for regeneration. While nothing which I have written concerning the habits of the freedmen is new to the negroes
themselves, who in their secluded gatherings show no reluctance to talk freely of themselves, yet so far as the white race is concerned there is very little first-hand knowledge regarding these topics. In fact, I doubt if any white person lives who has an adequate comprehension of negro characteristics, notwithstanding the many who descant glibly on the present and future of the freed people.

I know that few have any actual knowledge of their hidden lives and real living in their homes,
churches, and social intercourse ; especially of their individual hopes and fears, of opportunities denied them, of temptations besetting them, of prejudices they encounter, of victories they achieve. It is therefore obvious that the American white people have no intelligent insight into negro sociology ; and it is reasonable, to assume that, apart from the annual educational mendicant and the clerical beggar, the essential facts of negro life are as little known to the great mass of our people as they were three centuries ago. Furthermore, I make bold to say that no genuine attempt has been made, in any quarter, to know the negro as a freeman and as a citizen of our republican commonwealth. He has rights which are denied, as well as wrongs that have gone un redressed ; and though he possesses many despicable traits that environment has accentuated, nevertheless his acknowledged exemplars have not all been saints, nor are his teachers altogether blameless for existing racial conditions.

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White people, especially white women, are known for pathological altruism. Dumb whites also project onto others what they themselves think, not considering that the “other” person may indeed have different racial predilections. This projection is false logic, and wishful thinking.

Liberalism ideology of course, reinforces those predilections, because if negroes are more inherently violent, or are “different” then that is too scary of a thought.

The civil war released the Negro to do great damage, and equally damage was done to him. The proper and civilized thing to do, was to send Negroes back to Africa. That didn’t happen, and there was some indication that Lincoln was thinking of doing that very thing, especially as Lincoln had come to understand the power of debt free Greenbacks.

The other option was Panama, and there were discussions on buying land in that region for Negro removal.

This was a great list. I had only heard of a few of these books and I was an American History major at a state university who went to law school. Many of these volumes have been suppressed.

Yes, this 3 volume set is a must read. It is heavily annotated, sources are easily checked out.
This set is available directly from the Nation of Islam bookstore at a very reasonable cost.
Today’s American society doesn’t give Minister Louis Farrakhan any credit for exposing many of the societal machinations committed by “you know who” and how blacks (and even gentile whites) are being used and abused by “you know who”.
Yes, Farrakhan is bombastic and “goes over the top” with some of his pronouncements, but after observing the core beliefs of the Nation of Islam and reading many of his texts, one has to admit that most of the time he is right.
His advocacy for self-reliance, honesty, and yes, racial separation are traits that should be welcomed instead of denigrated.
Whites would do well to adopt many of the principles that the Nation of Islam supports.

Before the “War of Northern Aggression”, those who lived on the North American continent within the territory considered to be the united States considered themselves to be citizens of their respective states–NOT a “citizen of the United States”. A person residing in Virginia considered himself to be a “citizen of Virginia” not a “citizen of the united States”.
Previous to the “War of Northern Aggression”, the only roles the federal government had was to coin money, run a post office and have the ability to gather troops to repel an outside invasion force–nothing more.
That all changed with the conclusion of the “War of Northern Aggression” when the federal government assumed “new” powers (never delegated to it in the Constitution) that ran roughshod over and largely nullified “states rights”.
This was the “beginning of the end” until 1913 when federal power was firmly solidified with the passage of the 16th and 17th Amendments and the creation of the Federal Reserve.

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, the Talmud and Albert Pike’s Morals and Dogma.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=rebel+yell+stonewall+jackson+book&i=stripbooks&crid=2Y510UK6RLD1W&sprefix=rebel+yell%2Cstripbooks%2C78&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_10

Jackson was the greatest general of the War of Southern Secession. If J. Davis had listened to him the war would have been over within two years.

Every time I read about Jackson’s strategic vision to win the war I shed tears for what might have been.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=rebel+yell+stonewall+jackson+book&i=stripbooks&crid=2Y510UK6RLD1W&sprefix=rebel+yell%2Cstripbooks%2C78&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_10

I guess comments do not allow two links. Both books are excellent. Rebel Yell has more content about Jackson the man. On one occasion captured Union soldiers cheered him as he rode by.

His advocacy for self-reliance, honesty, and yes, racial separation are traits that should be welcomed instead of denigrated.

Booker T. Washington advocated for the same thing, and he was supported by Christians.

Of course, the usual suspects, wanted something different, and so they created the NAACP. They found their mulatto in the form of W.E.B. Dubois, who was the “face” of NAACP, while New York Jewish Capital was the hidden string pulling funding mechanism.

You cannot have both segregation and Jews. Why? Because narrative emitted by the owned press, will soon enough take root in soft heads of white women. They will advocate for full emancipation of Negroes because of “feels.” These feels are simple emotions repeating the narrative programming of Jews. Jews themselves have night fevers about the thundering hooves of the Cossacks, coming to get them, and eject them to the Pale of Settlement.

The Parasite doesn’t actually want to live alone, he needs to operate within the body, to then steal life energy.

Booker T. wanted the power of “green” meaning greenbacks, to circulate within the black community. He was preaching for segregation, self reliance and local economy.

May 28, 2019 Stony the Road: Reconstruction, White Supremacy, and the Rise of Jim Crow

In Stony the Road, Henry Louis Gates, Jr., offers a new rendering of the struggle by African Americans for equality after the Civil War and the violent counter-revolution that subjugated them. Journalist A’Lelia Bundles will moderate the discussion.

Video Link

May 29, 2010 AMERICA’S BLACK FOUNDING FATHERS Founders’

The instrumental Role of AFRICAN-AMERICANS in the founding of the United States.

Video Link

There would have been as big an Irish problem as there is a Black problem as of now. The Jews would have organized them into absolute criminals like they have done with Ukrainians. They would have encouraged them in their particular form of Catholicism to resent against all constitutional rights guaranteeing free expression.

Freeing the slaves was mostly an hypocritical motive for the North to wage the Civil War : they were moved by a desire to punish the South out of puritanical jealousy against those who they found had led a far too sweet and comfortable life. But on the other hand the motive for the South to wage the Civil War was indeed keeping their source of free labour first and foremost and their first care as the seceded state after state was to prohibit very stringently any form of abolitionist or antiracist propaganda as something against the law of the land.

This was the “beginning of the end” until 1913 when federal power was firmly solidified with the passage of the 16th and 17th Amendments and the creation of the Federal Reserve.

Lincoln’s national banking act made all private banks in the U.S. use gold/silver or T Bills in the reserve loops.

In other words, if you wanted to redeem a private banknote issued in Midland Texas, while in Peoria Ilinois, you used to be S.O.L. It was very difficult.

After the National Banking Act, private banks could be regulated better and they came under quasi sovereign control. The amount of reserves also limited private bank credit emission. Treasury monitored the banks and kept them from getting froggy.

The Federal Reserve was a plot by international banksters to control private banks (corporations) reserve loops with their own credit, hence “reserve” in the name. The name Federal was a ruse. I t wasn’t federal, it was privateering.

The election of 1912 was a plot by international banking privateers to then get what they wanted. The forerunner to the Federal Reserve Act was the Aldrich Amendment, and TAFT refused to sign this, as he knew the country would be undone.

Federal Power wasn’t solidified by the 16’th and 17’th, it was undone and handed over to privateering money powers.

The 17’th made Senators into populists, no longer operating as agents for their state legislatures.

The 16’th meant that tariffs could be taken down, and income taxes could be installed. This then pushed down labor value (by taxing labor) and allowed the uptake of finance capitalism, the same capital that funded the split election and wanted the Federal Reserve.

The Congressional Record has Woodrow Wilson lamenting about how all of a sudden there are lobbyists roaming the halls of the White House, where before they weren’t.

Wilson inadvertently (because he was stupid) had centralized power into Washington, which was the intent of the money powers, because they wanted to privateer and take permanent usury on the population. The founders intended the States to be very powerful and a brake on centralization, hence “Senators” are not to be elected, but instead are sent by their legislatures.

Leviathan has only grown since 1912, and is now controlled by hidden string pullers.

The American Revolution was against Parliamentary Government and Private Bank Capital. The Colonials invented Industrial Capitalism, also called the American System of Economy.

Lincoln resurrected the Colonial System of Industrial Capitalism, and did his best to have a new sovereign “first bank” by using the Treasury as a proxy.

Anybody can read Hamilton’s report on Manufactures and notice how he talks about American Credit flowing in industry, and this was credit from the first bank, a national bank.

(Yes, Hamilton also screwed up by allowing privateers to own stock in the bank, its undoing.)

Segregation of the negro off this landmass would be ideal, but unfortunately it’s a pipe dream -at least currently.

They have done that at every single era of human history and particularly so at every point of Western European history. Among the worst culprits, at a level the Catholic Church themselves never achieved, are the leaders of Enlightenment school of Philosophy as it developed in England and even more so France. The establishment of the narrative of the official history of the Western World was achieved first and foremost thanks to document suppression on a scale seen like never before. Voltaire who is supposed to be a major incarnation of free thought was actually busy censoring and suppressing everything and especially works from past periods of history that might have suggested there had been a regression of general material welfare since the Carolingian heydays to his times. Voltaire harboured a special hatred against workingmen in general and especially against those who might have benefitted from a quality education, whom he wanted to put to death for having trespassed their duty of caste. The very fact that you believe the contrary about him is one solid proof that the intellectual dark age you see unfolding now is not something new but something you have always be in and also the very intended result aimed for among others by Jefferson who was Voltaire’s late (but very faithful) carbon-copy on the American continent. All these Enlightenment philosophers wanted quality education to be severely restricted to a very small circle of oligarchs who would need it to manage their fortune and situations, and the content of that knowledge was to be unified and controlled at global level with systematic destruction of all contradictory documents.

They would have encouraged them in their particular form of Catholicism to resent against all constitutional rights guaranteeing free expression.

Jewish capital from Amsterdam funded the reformation. Manessah Ben Israel 1604 -1657 was funding Protestantism, which was a looting operation of the Catholic Church.

(The BOE was another project of Amsterdam’s Jews … BOE in 1694.)

The Catholics allowed conversos, big mistake. The Catholics allowed priests to get into debt to Jews, which then led to the indulgences, another big mistake.

Catholics eventually bent over and took it in the rear with Vatican 2 1962-1965.

Post Civil War, the Irish were debt slaves, mostly indebted to the BOE.

So, exactly how would the Jews organize the Irish post war? Release their debts? Doubtful on that, as Jews cannot help themselves from taking usury.

Top Jews in the City of London would have squashed the little Jews in America. Top Jews in the city of London were going around telling “investors” how once they got the American Colonies back into the English Colonial system, there was plenty of “gain” to be had for all (meaning their finance class).

Can anyone explain why John Wilkes Booth is universally regarded as a monster? When he shot Lincoln, the CW was NOT over and the leader of your enemy in time of war is always fair game. Yes – Lee surrendered his Army of Northern Virginia a week before the shooting, but the fighting continued for another month or so.

Booth had every right to shoot lincoln but history is written by the victors.

Jealousy and envy of a superior culture and way of life were the motivating factors behind Yankee Abolitionist stirring up hatred and making war on the South.

As to Blacks and slavery, the hypocritical, self-righteous, Puritan Yankees responsible for instigating the war despised and refused to associate with Negroes then, as they do now.

Not a word in the article about yankee slavery, the factor that trumps all Union rationalization? Magic lantern on the subject:

http://slavenorth.com/

The cowardly-named African Burial Ground National Monument right on Broadway in NYC — black SLAVE bodies showing clear signs of oppressed lives:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Burial_Ground_National_Monument

Great books by Stanley Lott, a black rural South Carolinian and one of the most vociferous defenders of the Confederate flag and Southern rights during the 1990s conflict:

https://www.amazon.com/Books-Stanley-K-Lott/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AStanley+K.+Lott

…..obviously not including Amazon’s Edgar Allan Poe decoy book at the top. Very sorry to see Stanley died in 2000, maybe from a covid death jab.

https://www.loganfh.com/obituary/Stanley-Lott

An understanding of Lincoln’s plan for the slave issue would be valuable for a college student to understand (and everyone else).

Repatriation of blacks to anywhere but the USA was Lincoln’s plan. He was discussing that up to the week before his murder. He wanted to send all except those who fought for the Union to either Africa or the Americas. He had worked on that with the British. It is all in a book. But conveniently he was murdered. The book: “Colonization After Emancipation” “Lincoln and the Movement for Black Resettlement” Published 2011

Why did Booth have the right to shoot Lincoln?

If there was a bad actor in the civil war, it was the South.

If you don’t follow the Jew and money, then you get confused and cannot tell up from down.

https://brutalproof.net/2017/09/true-history-of-rothschild-manipulation-of-the-civil-war-with-their-agents-in-u-s-gov/

When we think of the Confederacy, the big names that automatically come to mind are the three legends carved into the side of Georgia’s Stone Mountain: President Jefferson Davis, General Robert E. Lee and General Stonewall Jackson. Significant figures for sure, but in the grander power-scheme of things, these men, including President Davis himself, were outranked by Judah P. Benjamin. The fact that Benjamin’s name is so relatively unknown is, ironically, testament to the awesome “behind-the-scenes” power that he wielded. Unfortunately for the South (and the North), Benjamin’s influence served neither of the Americas. His loyalties were elsewhere – in Rothschild’s London!

London capital was fully backing up the South. The South was backsliding into the Atlantacist Colonial System.

https://www.voltairenet.org/article169488.html

Tsar Alexander II sent ships in 1863. This alliance with Russia was key to the North winning the U.S. Civil War, sealing the defeat of the British strategic design.

Also, post war, Henry Carey went to Russia to teach them about the American System (Industrial Capitalism).

The Bolsheviks were funded by finance capital from London and Wall Street, to undo the revolution in Russia (uptake of Industrial Capitalism).

This fight has caused many wars, starting with the Revoultionary war, and ending with finance capitalism winning in WW2 (U.S. converted to finance capital in 1912).

The war in Ukraine is about two systems, the new multipolar world led by Industrial Capitalist China vs London/Wall Street Finance Capital (globo homo) Jew bucks created at debt.

This list is missing several crucial works of Southern history:

C. Vann Woodward, The Origins of the New South

comes first. And his

The Strange Career of Jim Crow

comes second, and

W.E.B. Du Bois, Black Reconstruction

comes next.

Two more vital and fundamental books were published in the 1930s. Every thinking Southerner should know them:

I’ll Take My Stand by Twelve Southerns

Herbert Agar & Allen Tate, eds., Who Owns America? A New Declaration of Independence (Boston, Houghton Mifflin, 1936).

Until a Southerner reads these books, he has no idea (only delusions) where he stands, historically.

Slavery existed in the Colonies BEFORE the revolutionary war.

Not a word in the article about yankee slavery, the factor that trumps all Union rationalization? Magic lantern on the subject:

http://slavenorth.com/

The new country inherited the institution.

The above is you trying to elevate slavery as some sort of litmus test. Nobody at the time really gave a shit.

The war was about the Tariffs. The North knew that slavery was bad, and it was the South that was gaining the most from the institution. The North was industrializing and did not want negro labor.

The south was agrarian and the planters wanted negroes to work the land. They then bought negroes from the Jewish conceived, funded and operated Atlantic slave trade/shipping system.

Lincoln cynically proclaimed emancipation, so that Southern fighting men would rush home to protect their white women from being raped by now freed negroes.

The reality is that the white women did incite the negro, just as today where they like to coal-burn and explore their sexual fantasies.

Also, in the book I posted above, black women flocked to Northern Army encampments to offer themselves to the northern soldiers.

The best solution to the negro problem is removal. But, then again that is impossible unless there is some sort of Sovereign King.

No democracy can evict the Jew either.

Jealousy and envy of a superior culture and way of life were the motivating factors behind Yankee Abolitionist stirring up hatred and making war on the South

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Every war requires some sort of narrative building up your side and tearing down the other, so you can kill the other.

The war was about the tariff.

Cynical (((investors))) wanted to take sordid gain then, just as they do today.

People don’t want to let go of false narratives they have been imbibing since childhood.

Is it no wonder that Hitler had to create Concentration Camps, to then re-educate demoralized and bolshevized Germans.

My fellow Americans are some of the dumbest and most poorly educated people in the world. Boomers especially are beyond reach, as they have imbibed on a lifetime of narrative conditioning.

Thanks.

Voltaire harboured a special hatred against workingmen in general and especially against those who might have benefitted from a quality education, whom he wanted to put to death for having trespassed their duty of caste. The very fact that you believe the contrary about him is one solid proof that the intellectual dark age you see unfolding now is not something new but something you have always be in and also the very intended result aimed for among others by Jefferson who was Voltaire’s late (but very faithful) carbon-copy on the American continent.

From where did you get the idea that I admire Voltaire? As I have never said or written anything that would support your assertion of what I “believe” about him or his ideas, your references to me are nonsensical and presumptuous. Please be good enough to acknowledge that the statements in question and their implications are erroneous.

Bringing Africans was doubly stupid, because, they basically exterminated the Native Indians — in order to replace them by Africans?? How dumb can you be. If they had used the Indians as slaves it would have been bad too, but less bad. But there was not even the need for Africans, since as soon as slavery ended the country would be flooded with Irish, Germans, Italians etc. Then why not bring the Irish, Italians and Germans in the first place? “No, let’s bring as workers the most alien race we can find – Africans”. Even the Chinese would have been better.

But this happened all over the Americas, so there might have been some other reason to bring Africans, without anyone even suspecting that it could be a bad idea.

Lighten up, man.

Happily for the male sex, Priss Factor is a stupid woman, not a stupid man. “Priss Factor” is one of the three or four aliases used by a woman who calls herself Andrea Orlov Letania at other sites. Here at Unz Review, she writes neologism-riddled junk analysis under the name Jung-Freud.

Her addiction to adolescent dirty words and sniggering references to anatomical parts as if she has just discovered what they are used for are two of the many reasons for giving her frequently interminable-seeming pronouncements a wide berth.

Thanks Jews.

Students in an @mcpasd school were treated to a drag queen performance by a “drag teacher” during school hours. Imagine if they focused on teaching math, science, and history instead of drag. This is sickening. pic.twitter.com/TvyoQ8pW6r

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) April 12, 2022

Oscar Wilde called Jefferson Davis’ two-volume The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government (1881) a masterpiece. Davis produced a revised, single-volume version, entitled A Short History of the Confederate States of America (1889). The former is currently in print courtesy of Da Capo Press.

On the topic of the Lost Cause, why not start at the beginning?, with Edward Alfred Pollard’s The Lost Cause: A New Southern History of the War of the Confederates (1866).

But enough Dryasdust revisionism, how about forceful philosophizing? George Fitzhugh’s Sociology for the South (1845) and Cannibals All! or, Slaves without Masters (1857) are both in print, from Imperium Press and Harvard University Press, respectively. The latter is said to have upset Lincoln to a greater degree than any other pro-slavery publication.

Albert Taylor Bledsoe’s Liberty and Slavery (1856), “the most extensive philosophical treatment of slavery ever produced by a Southern academic,” is harder to find.

You really are out of touch with reality.

Who read them to you ?

Laughing.

Greenwood to name one.

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The contend is bankrupt.

Blacks were free labor and could subsist off the land — low overhead. Any suggestion that whites minus blacks amounts to some manner of peaceful better world is rather ignorant of history — even among themselves, regardless of their faith and practice.

Jews did not and could not force a single southerner to on a single slave.
the existence or presence of african americans integrated or not has never had an impact on the irreverent violent conduct of whites. It’s probably a toss up over which color demographic has exhibited and exported the most violence

whites or yellows

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if the South was right they should have exported their black slaves and commenced to get busy planting — and reaping. No one was taking away their slaves when they needless attacked Fort Sumter. No one.

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“Previous to the “War of Northern Aggression”, the only roles the federal government had was to coin money, run a post office and have the ability to gather troops to repel an outside invasion force–nothing more.”

CHISHOLM v. STATE OF GA. , 2 U.S. 419 (1793)

Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857)

Cohens v. Virginia (1821)

Cherokee Nation v. Georgia

https://supremecourthistory.org/associate-justices/alfred-moore-1800-1804/

Every single southern state sent both representatives and senators to the national government and everyone of these states in the south utilize federal authority and services when they wanted

The Supremacy Clause seals the deal on the legal, political and social concept o a single union comprised of the several states. On every issue the southern states could vote debate, make and enforce laws for the nation as a whole and did so.

Not a single state north or south challenged the constitutionality of union and the role o their state —

The contend of independent countries begs the question of why war – why pot just ignore the federal claim — it is not as if Pres Lincoln had any designs to invade the south. In fact, he was more than willing and did sacrifice blacks on the issue — because union was paramount. The senators, and reps in the south voted and participated in national defense. When Mexico crossed the border to reclaim the southwest or Texas, Texans fully expected federal support. Texans did not say

“ohh we’ll take care of it.”

They sued in federal courts

Goodness gracious good grief

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Just to be clear

i don’t hate southerners
i don’ hate the south, quite the contrary

i fully recognize the brilliance of the southern commanders and had they invaded the north as soon as the war began, they might have prevailed or at least pressed their case by war and been left to their own. But war was a poor choice, unwarranted and without any ethical richness.

A great list and discussion.

Three more titles:

1. Indispensable and fascinating firsthand 1852 reportage from all southern states, plus discussion and Olmsted’s footnotes:
Frederick Law Olmstead, The Cotton Kingdom: The Classic
Firsthand Account of the South in the Years Preceding the Civil War, edited and with an introduction by Arthur Schlesinger (NY: Knopf/Borzoi, 1953). Very un-PC, hence hardly known these days. Olmsted describes what he sees plus records all of his conversations, with slaves, their owners, riverboat men, poor whites, German farmers, plantation managers, and more. All relevant issues regarding the culture and economy of the South vs. the North are touched on as Olmsted makes his way on horseback through every state of the South. As close to a video from 1852 as you can get.

https://www.abebooks.com/Cotton-Kingdom-Travellers-Observations-Slavery-American/30862109806/bd?cm_mmc=ggl-_-US_Shopp_Trade_20to50-_-product_id=COM9780306807237USED-_-keyword=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnNyUBhCZARIsAI9AYlEvX60RJ9nQ0eXYD767ru_GjBgY7f0L7PK9rP3jlsEeJaCFxHNgN6YaAl1aEALw_wcB

2. Alvin Josephy, The Civil War in the American West.

3. Colin Woodard, American Nations, part 1, “Origins: 159 to 1769, ‘Founding the Deep South’; part 3, “Wars for the West: 1816 to 1877.”

Prove It! You got nothing.

Boomer cuck?

My suggestion to the modern college student would be to move to a “third world” country and attend school there. Obviously tuition is much cheaper, everything is done in English in class, you get to explore and learn another culture and rid yourself of the narrow america centric worldview that most american’s who have never travelled have. If you go to a school in Asia for example you won’t be exposed to PC virtue signaling nonsense. I know it’s sad to have to travel all the way to Asia to avoid anti White hatred but that is the way it is. No gays or tranny sickness and in some countries that mess is illegal. You will make motivated friends who have a different life experience and you learn to really appreciate your station in life and what you were blessed with. Also if you want to experience the local dating scene you are certain to find MUCH better looking women that the fat blue hair feminists that inhabit the smug hallways of modern american universities. At the end of your university experience you will have a valid and accredited degree that is just as good as any overpriced american degree and you will get it without having to put up with any of the BS or nonsense from american universities.

Che was of Irish/Spanish descent, genius.

Do Jews live in your head or in your closet? All you do is blame them for your own personal shortcomings.

Another reminder of why I keep coming back to UNZ are these gifts of knowledge passed down by historians, teachers and writers here.
Thanks a bunch.

Niggaz Pleez, Guava es uh fruit and che es the in Ebonics.
You needs ta get sum edgacashun.

I have come to similar conclusions as you.

The English/British were somewhat supportive of the South.
The Brits considered the American Northeast Protectionists their rivals.

Russia supported Lincoln, and the North helped industry built up Russia (like railways).
The Russians at the time had their conflict with Britain (the great game and crimean war).

I have speculated that China was build up by the industrialists or business from America.

Why was this industry and lots of potential jobs send to China? I am not sure.

After world war 2 America changed massively: cultural revolution, nixon scandal (he complained about Jews), several bigwigs from the intelligence agencies were shot dead, America seemed to have dropped protectionism.

Absolutely indispensible is the 2ork of Anna vonReitz on the deep legal history fundamental to the run-up, prosecuti9n and aftermath of the war. Unfortunalely, an overview of the mass of information she has uncovered would seem to be necessary, as this exists currently as a large number of brief articles on her website.

The plantation economy of the American South was the creation and operation of absentee capital funneled from Europe through London and New York. This is what Jefferson is taking about when, in his Notes On The State of Virginia (1785) Jefferson described Southern slave plantations as “a species of property annexed to certain mercantile houses in London”: “Virginia certainly owed two millions sterling to Great Britain at the conclusion of the [Revolutionary] war…. This is to be ascribed to peculiarities in the tobacco trade. The advantages [profits] made by the British merchants on the tobaccoes consigned to them were so enormous that they spared no means of increasing those consignments. A powerful engine for this purpose was the giving good prices and credit to the planter, till they got him more immersed in debt than he could pay without selling his lands or slaves. They then reduced the prices given for his tobacco so that let his shipments be ever so great, and his demand of necessaries ever so economical, they never permitted him to clear off his debt. These debts had become hereditary from father to son for many generations, so that the planters were a species of property annexed to certain mercantile houses in London.”

Throughout the 19th century up until the Civil War the South’s entire economy — its plantations, its exports of cotton, its imports of stable goods and, crucially, its finances, were all totally in the hands of, totally in control of, and operated primarily for the benefit of, absentee investors headquartered in New York City, often representing European capital. Wall Street had the largest share of profits from the South’s slave plantation economy, it supplied its mercantile credit and financed slavery itself, writing mortgages with slaves as collateral. This is essential history, vital to an understanding of the South’s slave economy and the operations of the national economy that consolidated economic control in New York City and extended it, over the period of “Reconstruction”, to take under its control, and subject to its exploitation, the entire country. Today we don’t have chattel slavery, we have wage slavery, we don’t have cotton plantations, we have rent-slave and mortgage serf plantations, but the oligarchy in control and the principal beneficiaries have not changed.

Facing these fundamental facts, it becomes screamingly apparent, to those who can see and think, that RACE IS A RED HERRING, a smoke-screen, a decoy. The problem isn’t race, the problem is the rule of predatory oligarchs, whether they pretend that ‘race’ is their pretext, or something else.

History shows that Jews were major players in the slave trade of the Mediterranean and the Near East from the earliest times and this continued into the 19th century, but they were not the only players in the slave trade to the Americas in the 16th-19th century. The Dutch, the Portuguese and the English all also figured prominently in this trade, as did Americans, notably in Boston and New York City.

Why do young men join the army? Why is the sky blue and the rain wet? Young men join the army because that’s what young men do and have done since the first men stood on their hind legs. Adventure, glory, fun, these are the things young men often think about when putting their mark on the dotted line. Of course, the reality of war is usually different, but war is a part of human nature. As harsh as the “adventure” can be, I’ve known several men who said that their wars were the best part of their lives. We haven’t really changed since the day the Greeks set sail for Troy.

Do Jews live in your head or in your closet? All you do is blame them for your own personal shortcomings.

Butt hurting much? I always give links and explain monetary history. Without following the Jew, you cannot understand things, especially as money is the mainspring of history.

Your putting up a smokescreen is suspicious. Are you trying to obfuscate?

My audience is people who have an open mind, and are willing to entertain concepts that have not previously been presented to them.

Jews, Boomer Cucks, and demoralized people are unable to change their mental pathways.

Or, as Paul Craig Roberts, a truth teller calls it. Insouciant.

insouciant

adjective: nonchalant, casual, carefree, gay, sunny, buoyant, airy, breezy, unconcerned, jaunty, untroubled, happy-go-lucky, free and easy, unworried, light-hearted

He worked with insouciant disregard for convention. Boomer cucks are insouciant.

Nothing in the constitution bans secession. In fact, the idea is absurd since america was FOUNDED on secession. The original 13 colonies all seceded from england.

In 1875 Bismark wrote that the CW was instigated by the European bankers who did not like the fact that america was strong and prosperous and not in debt to them. So they sent their agents here to stir things up by ranting about slavery and tariffs and states rights and secession. They wanted a big war and they got one though i don’t think it ended in the way they wished. I suspect they wanted the CSA to survive so they could start another north/south war every 20 years.

Great article and commentaries! Looks like I have to order me a bunch of good books!

Shelby Foote I came across when I watched Ken Burns’ “The Civil War” from 1990. Still strongly recommended.

The Dutch, the Portuguese and the English all also figured prominently in this trade, as did Americans, notably in Boston and New York City.

The slave trade was predominantly Jewish, even in Holland and Portugal.

After expulsion from Spain in 1492, Sephardic Jews flocked to the lowlands, especially Antwerp. They also went to Portugal.

I don’t know how many times I have repeated this in my comment history, as it is crucial to understand modern western history.

Capital formation for the slave trade occurred also in Amsterdam, especially as Antwerp became more of a back water. The Portuguese were unloading gold and spices, in Amsterdam, as the former overland Haibaru (Aipiru) secret usury method had been overtaken by the southern route. The caravan routes are where a cut was taken on arbitrage of metal money between east and west. The crossover point for the caravan routes are at the Bosporous, which is why Rome moved all the way to Constantiople. (They also were interested in the trade.)

The Jews of the lowlands had an ill effect on the Dutch, as they specialized in international finance. This led to a disregard by the richest Dutch for their own society and fellow Dutchmen. They became, in Stalin’s words, rootless cosmopolitans.

J.L Price, Culture and Society in the Dutch Republic, “The Jews made political loans, such as to the Dutch House of Orange William III to enable him to become the King of England.

From 1750 Dutch Capital penetrated everywhere. Remember our (((friends))) had piles o gold won over centuries on the caravan routes using usury methods.

About 1/3 of the English national debt was held in Holland, paying 1.4 million pounds of annual interest.

Charles Wilson, Anglo Dutch Commerce in the 18’th century: Dutch speculators (Jews) helped to reproduce the intricate apparatus of speculation (in London) which had already been perfected in Amsterdam, a hundred years before.

The shares system was introduced on the London exchange system towards the end of the 17’th century by Portuguese Jews from Amsterdam. (Van Dillen, History of the Principle of Public Banks)

Famous Jewish families who had taken refuge in Holland are the Medinas, the Suassos, and Pintos.

Wilson… the Bank of England was floated with Dutch (Jewish) capital.

Jame’s Park, “The Jew in the Medieval Community,” A primary activity attracted Jews into Europe from the 8’th to the 11’th century was to engage in the European slave trade. From the 5’th to 8’th century Jewish traders “continued and perhaps developed the trade in slaves.”

Cecil Roth, “World History and the Jewish People – The dark ages 711-1096”

Documents of this period for Jewish slave trade occupies a particularly prominent place because its scale was so vast. Roth also noted how the slave traders violated Jewish law, which forbade castration of whole groups of people.

The Jews castrated those captured as slaves at their holding centers in Verdun, before delivering them to Moslems in Spain.

The slave trade in the Americas was predominantly Jewish owned and operated as well.

Yay, let’s cheer for the Afro-Colonization of White Wombs. White America is so over. Blacks attack people and burn down cities, but white women have black kids, and whites cheer. It’s over.

I bet her husband is proud. I wonder why they did not show him? https://t.co/BGNp2cRnvU

— RAMZPAUL (@ramzpaul) June 2, 2022

Throughout the 19th century up until the Civil War the South’s entire economy — its plantations, its exports of cotton, its imports of stable goods and, crucially, its finances, were all totally in the hands of, totally in control of, and operated primarily for the benefit of, absentee investors headquartered in New York City, often representing European capital. Wall Street had the largest share of profits from the South’s slave plantation economy, it supplied its mercantile credit and financed slavery itself, writing mortgages with slaves as collateral.

Amsterdam, then London, then Wall Street.

Absentee investors, debt spreading, mercantile credit and other Finance Capitalist mechanisms were well developed by the 19’th century. Basically the modern world was already formed.

Writing mortgages with slaves as collateral is the hypothecation of assets on a double entry ledger, to then create new bank credit. This type of double entry legerdemain came into existence with the BOE.

I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.”

Abraham Lincoln

RACE IS A RED HERRING, a smoke-screen, a decoy. The problem isn’t race, the problem is the rule of predatory oligarchs, whether they pretend that ‘race’ is their pretext, or something else.

Yes, oligarchs use race as a divide and conquer tactic.

However, race is not nothing. Thousands of years of differential evolution is not nothing.

There is a great body of HBD (Human Biodiversity Data) available, even here at UR.

In 1875 Bismark wrote that the CW was instigated by the European bankers who did not like the fact that america was strong and prosperous and not in debt to them.

The National Banking act was in 1863, this is what alarmed the bankers, especially those in London. Also, the south moving into London’s orbit had been happening for some time.

Frederick List transmitted the American System of Economy (Industrial Capitalism) to Germany:

The Zollverein, or German Customs Union, was a coalition of German states formed to manage tariffs and economic policies within their territories. Organized by the 1833 Zollverein treaties, it formally started on 1 January 1834. However, its foundations had been in development from 1818 with the creation of a variety of custom unions among the German states. By 1866, the Zollverein included most of the German states.

List had become familiar with the writings of Mathew and Henry Carey, which was advocated for by Henry Clay.

By 1875 Bismark had already implemented and seen how Industrial Capitalism worked, and had Compulsory Health Insurance, so that labor was healthy. Industrial Capitalism builds up labor, rather than Finance Capitalism tearing it down.

“The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots and the bankers went anew to grab the riches. I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt civilization.” ~ Otto von Bismarck

Hitler, like Lincoln before him, recapitulated Industrial Capitalism, and then the (((bankers))) attacked.

Thanks for this helpful resource!

I’ll also say that for anyone who’s interested in hearing a strange, ground-breaking, and thoroughly convincing metaphysical analysis of this topic through the application of a much-needed racial/sociobiological framework, I highly recommend Michael Heisman’s (actual) Suicide Note:
https://legacy.gscdn.nl/archives/images/suicide_note.pdf

One of the most intriguing aspects of his investigations is the presentation of these events as the inevitable byproduct of the Anglo-Saxon’s ethnic defeat and long-term subjugation under the Norman Yoke, starting with William the Conqueror in 1066. He notes that the Southerns were largely the descendants of those very same Norman conquerors and out of this Eternal Anglo butthurt, fueled by centuries of subjugation in their homelands, came a deep-seated revenge against all-things-Southern (Norman).

It’s an extremely long “book” (nearly 2,000 pages!) so if you want to skip over unrelated topics, start with the section titled, “A Vendetta Called Revolution: How Ethnic Hostility between Anglo-Saxons and the Normans Who Conquered Them Evolved into Liberal Democracy.”

Here’s but one enlightening quote:

Why was the internecine strife yclept a “Civil War”.

In a Civil War , competing factions fight for control of the , it is to be hoped , country – unifying centre .

In the American version the South’s intention was to simply secede .

A ” War of Secession” might be a more apposite appellation.

Slavery existed before the Revolution? WHAT? You’re bursting my bubble!

The very fact that you believe the contrary about him —

my understanding is that you is a “figure de style” meaning everybody, as indeed, the general view on Voltaire is NOT in accordance with what Hippolyte Taine and, later, Jean Sarocchi thought of him.

I doubt that Priss is a female, doesn’t sound like it… Also, “Andrea” can be a male name (it’s female in Spanish and sometimes in English, but in other languages such as Italian, it’s male). But perhaps he/she can clarify.

Mindboggling the prescience of Otto von Bismarck’s statement about international Jew bankers’ finance capitalism.

By 1875 Bismark had already implemented and seen how Industrial Capitalism worked, and had Compulsory Health Insurance, so that labor was healthy. Industrial Capitalism builds up labor, rather than Finance Capitalism tearing it down.

“The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots and the bankers went anew to grab the riches. I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt civilization.” ~ Otto von Bismarck

dont worry, white american cucks can cope with their utter subjugation by blacks and jews by venting at whatever foreign boogeymen their kike masters provide for them.

Correct. That was one thing the South had wrong and one of two things Lincoln had right. The other thing Lincoln had right was Colonizing the freed slaves. Although, I read somewhere that he gave up that idea in the summer of 1864, about 1 year before he was assassinated.

Lee graduated top of his class at West Point,was superintendent there along with being president of Washington College. So much for ‘not bright’. I believe it is a historical fact that there was a lot more “white trash” in Grant’s , Sheridan’s or Sherman’s armies.

… my understanding is that you is a “figure de style” meaning everybody …

Such a reading might indeed be sustainable were it not for the fact that Miville then, within a matter of ten words, twice uses you in its normal second-person-singular, direct-address form.

Besides, if Miville is the careless writer that your suggested reading might be said to imply he is, he should be here explaining matters himself, hat in hand, rather than huddling in the shadows after so grandly mouthing off.

Under any circumstances, thank you for your comment.

I doubt that Priss is a female, doesn’t sound like it.

Listen more closely.

Slavery existed before the Revolution? WHAT? You’re bursting my bubble!

LoL, I get your humor.

The thing is there are so many boomer cucks and wokesters that think the U.S. is uniquely evil because of slavery.

As if slavery only came into existence at the time of the revolutionary war.

And if you explain to these types that the Jews were taking white slaves out of the Slav regions, and exporting them from Greece, they will look at you with their blank fish eyes.

Its just business Goy.

Or how about the white slaves that were castrated at Verdun intended for Moslem lands?

In America total mass by weight of negroes increased dramatically. Their population increased at the same rate or higher than that of whites, even though whites were immigrating from Europe.

In other words, post slavery, blacks when on a pump and dump spree, where they were pumping out and dumping negro babies at a high rate.

So much for all the eveeeeiiiil about whitey that we hear from these dupes.

The civil war was not about slavery, and Lincoln actually wanted to remove blacks post war, as they were incompatible with white civilization.

The same thing happened with Hitler, the Jews were to be dealt with after the war was won.

The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. …
Otto von Bismarck

Given that Bismarck, virtually single-handed, created the concept of Kulturkampf, his reflections on Christendom, especially with regard to who or what may be said to have helped or harmed it, ought to be regarded as carrying as much weight as Joseph Biden’s reflections on the importance of unimpeachable integrity and high cognitive function in someone installed in a senior executive position.

Like the similar baselessly worshipful cults of Lincoln, FDR, JFK, and Barack Obama, the cult of Bismarck is impervious to evidence or sense.

More butt hurting?

Kulturkampf was aimed at the Jesuits.

http://www.unamsanctamcatholicam.com/history/79-history/394-kulturkampf.html

In the 19th century, the Roman Catholic Church was under frequent attacks from the rising tide of liberal nationalism,

Liberalism, the reformation, and the enlightenment were all funded into existence after 1492, Jewish expulsion.

The Catholic Church made many mistakes. Number one was allowing Conversos to remain. Only a few Jews actually converted, the rest remained as hidden Jews, and that includes infiltration into the Jesuit order.

I made no “baseless” charges about Lincoln. I backed up everything with actually facts, which you seem immune to.

This rejection of facts and logic is called demoralization. It is a form of calcification of the brain, where it cannot accept facts at variance with what it thinks it knows.

It takes too much effort to rewire. Most demoralized people have to die off, they cannot be retrained.

FDR only used some Industrial Capitalist (American System) techniques, he was mostly a piece of shit that maneuvered to make the dollar the credit of the world, and he did this by lying. And of course, he was surrounded by Jews.

Barack Obama was another P.O.S. put into power by the (((lobby))) in Chicago, including the Pritzker family. He was probably also groomed by the CIA, which is an organ of Atlantacism.

JFK was murdered, mostly because he bucked up against Israel, who at the time were acquiring nuclear materials through theft and intrigue from the U.S.

Bizmark, Lincoln, Hitler, Tsar Nicholas, and the Founding Fathers (most of them) can be fairly lumped together as they opposed Atlantacist finance capital and its depredations.

Here’s a more expansive version of that same Bismarck quote about Lincoln.

As should be expected (John 8:44), some question the authenticity of all versions of this, and among those asserting accuracy there seems to be dispute as to whether it was said in 1876 or 1878 and when it first appeared in print which seems at earliest 1915 or 1921.

But as with The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion there is no disputing its profound prescience as proven by events in the over one hundred years since its publication.

The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man great enough to wear his boots. And Israel went anew to grab the riches of the World. I fear that Jewish Banks with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America, and use it systematically to corrupt modern civilization. The Jews will not hesititate to plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos, in order that “the earth should become the inheritance of Israel.”

Awesome News! CIVIL WAR!

https://tv.gab.com/channel/realredelephants/view/civil-war-almost-half-of-americans-6299794a13cd145f988df424

Uncle Victor, I can walk!

Video Link

“The thing is there are so many boomer cucks and wokesters that think the U.S. is uniquely evil because of slavery.
As if slavery only came into existence at the time of the revolutionary war.
And if you explain to these types that the Jews were taking white slaves out of the Slav regions, and exporting them from Greece, they will look at you with their blank fish eyes.”

I would be curious who believes the above. No disputes the global practice of slavery or its ancient roots. The problem for slavery in the US is not history.

It’s the Declaration of Independence.

And the hypocrisy to the same. And scripture, sets that hypocrisy on a pedastal that echoes with consequence to this day.

What about books from a Southern perspective about the Reconstruction era and later? We’ve been taught that evil Southerners just hated blacks for no reason. I have a feeling that Reconstruction had some similarities to today with putting BLM and race hustlers on a pedestal and demonizing a certain class of whites to the benefit of the ruling class. I’ve read a little about the race riots in Tulsa, Wilmington and Knoxville, and it seems the common thread is the police ignoring crime in the black communities and it spilling out to affect the whole community and people getting fed up with it, which leads to vigilante justice and all the excesses that comes with it (since back then whites couldn’t just hop in a car and move out to a safe suburb like they could after WW2).

“bigger dongs”

Not always.

Back in 1974 two distinguished economists, Robert Fogel and Stanley Engerman produced a work, Time on the Cross: The Economics of American Negro Slavery (reprinted in 1995), that should have altered the narrative on “the peculiar institution.” But given the historiography since then and the triumph of a zealous anti-racist, anti-white template, that did not occur. Based on their exhaustive research they found “that slavery was an economically rational institution and that the economic exploitation of slaves was not as catastrophic as presumed, because there were financial incentives for slaveholders to maintain a basic level of material support for those they held as property.”

I had to read this book for a college level economics course in the 1970s. The professor made sure that we understood that the two authors you have cited were adamantly opposed to slavery as an immoral and inhumane institution and that their effort to explain its economic rationality has to be seen in tandem with their support for an annihilationist war to stamp it out. Both authors are Jewish it might be added and one was married to a black female academic at the University of Chicago. (So far as I recall this book made no mention of the prominent Jewish role in promoting slavery, as explained by Wellesley African studies professor Tony Martin and others.)

I lived briefly in the South and it does have some wonderful cultural features lacking in the rest of the country. What I don’t understand is the following. The many people on this website who are concerned about the growth of the black underclass and black violence in America seem to give the slave holders a free pass for importing these people from Africa knowing that they were completely incompatible with America’s European cultural foundations. Did the slave holders truly imagine controlling a huge African slave population in perpetuity? Did they think that over a period of perhaps 100 years their descendants would become acculturated to American values and capable of Freeman status and citizenship? Many people say that technology would have eventually made chattel slavery economically obsolete. What did the southern slaveholders plan to do with their teeming multitudes of African slaves when economic circumstances changed? Thank you for any clarifications you can provide.

August 1, 1960
Mr. Dwight D. Eisenhower
White House
Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. President:

At the Republication Convention I heard you mention that you have the pictures of four (4) great Americans in your office, and that included in these is a picture of Robert E. Lee.

I do not understand how any American can include Robert E. Lee as a person to be emulated, and why the President of the United States of America should do so is certainly beyond me.

The most outstanding thing that Robert E. Lee did, was to devote his best efforts to the destruction of the United States Government, and I am sure that you do not say that a person who tries to destroy our Government is worthy of being held as one of our heroes.

Will you please tell me just why you hold him in such high esteem?

Sincerely yours,

Leon W. Scott

Despite undoubtedly having more important things to do as president, Eisenhower must have felt his answer was of such importance that he took the time to send Dr. Scott the following reply from the White House.

August 9, 1960

Dear Dr. Scott:

Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War between the States the issue of secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.

General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was a poised and inspiring leader, true to the high trust reposed in him by millions of his fellow citizens; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.

From deep conviction, I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s calibre would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the Nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.

Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.

Sincerely,

Dwight D. Eisenhower

This is Dwight D Eisenhower not George S Patton.

This is the Supreme Allied Commander who destroyed the dreaded NAZI’S, and who sent paratroopers with bayonets to integrate schools in the South.

LOL

This goes to show JUST HOW FAR LEFT America has FALLEN.

Natty X Lax, don’t forget these classics:

Without the West, slavery would still be universal. It was the British Navy’s “flying squadrons” that intercepted slave-ships elsewhere.

And it was the USA that freed the slaves it had IMPORTED, not created.

No disputes the global practice of slavery or its ancient roots.

Bullshit. CRT does not emphasize the universality of slavery or the fact that blacks themselves created the “peculiar institution.”

It’s like you’re saying “No one disputes bad events occurring throughout time” without admitting you only focus on the current era. The lie is in the omission and lack of equal emphasis.

The problem for slavery in the US is not history.

Nonsense. The problem is your ilk thinking they OWN “history.”

It’s like saying, “No one denies the all humans everywhere have been flawed. The issue is YOU being flawed.”

Well, fook that shite! You don’t get to say who and what is to be examined.

In the USA, juries don’t hear just one side during trials. Yet the Left has, thus far, been the only voice heard in the court of public opinion. So now’s the time for the Right…and right-thinking people…to have their uncensored say. Thus it’s high time to…

(1) note ALL the crimes-failings-hypocrisies of ALL other people throughout ALL time; and

(2) celebrate all the wondrous contributions Whites and America have made to improving life for everyone everywhere.

The problem for slavery in the US is not history. It’s the Declaration of Independence. And the hypocrisy to the same. And scripture, sets that hypocrisy on a pedastal that echoes with consequence to this day.

Sez you.

Now equally examine the founding documents of all other countries.

We’ll wait.

Then point out hypocrisies in African countries and, say, Israel…the “never again” shitstain that “ever again” treats Arabs like Adolph treated Juden.

Next, talk about the Torah/Talmud endorsing sex with 3-year-olds. And Buddhist monks using orphans as sex/labor slaves. And Hindus roasting widows alive. And so on.

Suddenly the Mt. Everest of White Western American “crimes” seem like a molehill.

The days of Whites being silent and passive are over.

excuse the delay, I have written so many responses to your comments, i am having to sift through to get to the shortest.

But for the moment,

Your contentions concerning white benevolence, is simply insufficient to meet the demands of my comments regarding hypocrisy and its consequences. I don’t live in Britain, Africa, the ME or Germany or any place else. We are not going to address the issues, muchless solutions or effective response about our hypocrisy by pointing fingers at the hypocrisy of others.

Your comment is a dodge to the matter. It does not change the import or context, it simply attempts to shift the subject. Now out of politeness, I will proffer a much more indepth response.

“Suddenly the Mt. Everest of White Western American “crimes” seem like a molehill.”

You are working over time to make arguments and raise issues I do not and then proceed to respond to your creative contends, which ae in no way associated with my comments or sentiments.

I can say with certainty that the Torah does not in any way relations outside of wedlock – period. I don’t think the Talmud does either, but that is a text with which I have very little familiarity with. I am afraid if you want to mole ill the misconduct of whites in the name of whiteness, you will have to do much better than what you posit. Because if one wants to claim whiteness as the source as you apparently do the lens of history each according to its time is going tell a tale of woe and misery brought to more people in more places across he planet than any other color group. And that des not include the misery than whites visit on whites.

But that is another discussion and one my comments do not invite. No avoiding the issue of US hypocrisy by attempting to highlight hypocrisy elsewhere won’t wash. Because in addressing those matters as horrible as they may be — reflecting the customs, practices and philosophies of those peoples — would not be hypocrisy.

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So no i don’t think the jews or Europe are nonwhites and i don’t think Russia’s invasion is saving whites. it is simple strategic aggression that has no justification. And that would be the case if every single Ukrainian were a black jew.

though i appreciate your attempt. Your comments are a compendium of issues (most unrelated one to the other) rolled as one. but I will post a response.

I have never known a time when white citizens were silent.

A proper recognition of southern history must include the fact that 40% of southerners voted against secession. For the three-quarters of southern whites who did not own slaves, the issue of expanding the institution to new territory that American voters demanded be kept open for free white homesteading only was not worth breaking up the world’s sole experiment in representative democracy. As the war effort faltered and Richmond became ever more tyrannical, their organized, armed counterinsurgencies were a deciding factor in the collapse of the rebellion. A good introduction to the voluminous literature of southern loyalists and their brutal suppression is Williams’ “Bitterly Divided, the South’s Inner Civil War” (New Press, 2008).

The eminent southern Historian E. Merton Coulter eloquently summarized the south’s tragedy in his 1950 classic “The Confederate States of America, 1861 – 1865”, where he writes, “The Confederacy was not blessed with a ‘one for all and all for one’ patriotism with which future generations of sentimental romancers were to endow it. Had it been so, this newborn nation might well have established its independence.”

“A proper recognition of southern history must include the fact that 40% of southerners voted against secession. For the three-quarters of southern whites who did not own slaves, the issue of expanding the institution to new territory that American voters demanded be kept open for free white homesteading only was not worth breaking up the world’s sole experiment in representative democracy. As the war effort faltered and Richmond became ever more tyrannical, their organized, armed counterinsurgencies were a deciding factor in the collapse of the rebellion.”

In response,

any law that banned free blacks and subsequently black citizens would be a violation the Constitution. And while several states enacted such laws they were by and large unenforceable, but more importantly, no such federal mandate existed. And while I applaud your acknowledgement the whites in the US held and fostered a racist disposition, I have also acknowledge that your comments support the foundation that the country was in character and intent racist, and the forty percent represented a larger majority.

A proper recognition of southern history must include the fact that 40% of southerners voted against secession. For the three-quarters of southern whites who did not own slaves, the issue of expanding the institution to new territory that American voters demanded be kept open for free white homesteading only was not worth breaking up the world’s sole experiment in representative democracy. As the war effort faltered and Richmond became ever more tyrannical, their organized, armed counterinsurgencies were a deciding factor in the collapse of the rebellion. A good introduction to the voluminous literature of southern loyalists and their brutal suppression is Williams’ “Bitterly Divided, the South’s Inner Civil War” (New Press, 2008).

Is that right?

Didn’t Honest Abe shut down the press, and have an Ohio Congressmen arrested and imprisoned?

Vallandigham was his name. iirc.

Maybe you Yankee retards read different “history” books than me?

LOL

That’s entirely possible.

Didn’t yer “President” suspend Habeas Corpus and threaten to arrest CJ Roger Taney?

There are two books that are more than heads and shoulders above books by characters like Helper. First theology is still queen of the sciences despite what the Yankees did. Greatest divine in the North was Archbishop of the Episcopal church, raised in Ireland, John Henry Hopkins. During the Civil War he wrote two masterpieces at the request of gentlemen from New York snd Philadelphia on the Scriptural, historical and Ecclesiastical take on the Christian view of slavery. Robert Lewis Dabney, Stonewall Jackson’s Chief of Staff, was considered by many of his peers as the best theologian in the country. He wrote immediately after the war His Defence of Virginia. The fact that I do not see these books mentioned here tells us of the real Overton window most live under.

“Without the West, slavery would still be universal. It was the British Navy’s “flying squadrons” that intercepted slave-ships elsewhere. And it was the USA that freed the slaves it had IMPORTED, not created. No disputes the global practice of slavery or its ancient roots.
Bullshit. CRT does not emphasize the universality of slavery or the fact that blacks themselves created the “peculiar institution.
It’s like you’re saying “No one disputes bad events occurring throughout time” without admitting you only focus on the current era. The lie is in the omission and lack of equal emphasis.
The problem for slavery in the US is not history. Nonsense. The problem is your ilk thinking they OWN “history.” It’s like saying, “No one denies the all humans everywhere have been flawed. The issue is YOU being flawed. Well, fook that shite! You don’t get to say who and what is to be examined. In the USA, juries don’t hear just one side during trials. Yet the Left has, thus far, been the only voice heard in the court of public opinion. So now’s the time for the Right…and right-thinking people…to have their uncensored say. Thus it’s high time to…

(1) note ALL the crimes-failings-hypocrisies of ALL other people throughout ALL time; and
(2) celebrate all the wondrous contributions Whites and America have made to improving life for everyone everywhere. The problem for slavery in the US is not history. It’s the Declaration of Independence. And the hypocrisy to the same. And scripture, sets that hypocrisy on a pedastal that echoes with consequence to this day. Sez you. Now equally examine the founding documents of all other countries. We’ll wait. Then point out hypocrisies in African countries and, say, Israel…the “never again” shitstain that “ever again” treats Arabs like Adolph treated Juden. Next, talk about the Torah/Talmud endorsing sex with 3-year-olds. And Buddhist monks using orphans as sex/labor slaves. And Hindus roasting widows alive. And so on. Suddenly the Mt. Everest of White Western American “crimes” seem like a molehill. The days of Whites being silent and passive are over.”

Excuse the delay . . . first, I would prefer to avoid the colorful references. And while an advocate of free speech, I certainly prefer to avoid it exchanges.

Short answer first,

in discussing the US , its formation, development and impact, the other countries practices are irrelevant. Nothing in my comments denies that other countries and other peoples have hypocrisy. And your5 grasp of slavery as practice is mighty sparse. western civilization did not free slaves everywhere. In fact, cannot be credited to some unique role in freeing slaves.

As for the Torah, it does not ever, even suggest, hint, glance by any conduct condoning relations with any child – ever. Such relations are restricted to the married. Though what is meant by the term sex is an issue, because flirting can be considered part of the sexual process, but is not prohibited. I think here to be specific — we mean foreknowledge.

looking at African nations and to their customs and expectations: suppose one found that they endorsed slavery, that not people of x country are in fact not equal and they established their societies in like manner, had slaves, underage marriage, etc. That would not be a society living in contradiction with its principles. As I recall in New guinea, there civilizations that practice sodomy as a right of passage to manhood — the fact that I find the practice distasteful to say the least does not make them hypocrites. The same applies to your litany of examples. Countries with caste systems that act accordingly regardless of my view — that would not be hypocrisy.

In my experience whites have never been silent or passive. They may respond passive aggressively to pressures and engage ion nonverbal response — but passive is simply not a trait one observes. The issue here is accountability and you don’t get that by dancing about what others do in response to your own issues. I here the country is blatantly ever seeking a way out of the dilemma, it created. I don’t think you meet many blacks who think tat whites are evil per say, subconsciously racist, sure. There is very little hatred for whites among blacks as to my experience — anger, frustration . . . conflicted because after years of bending over backwards — back breaking effort to prove their value and having done so in spades, many, too many perhaps, give the impression that simply don’t a hoot what whites think. And the end of the day some white women s going to get offended and some white guy, some hispanic light skinned guy is going to across miles to instruct said black how to speak to white women. Some Asian woman is going write a book about ow she fights for her child’s success and it will be lauded as the next best thing and how blacks don’t do that. Ignoring 200 years of black mothers sacrificing themselves to instill in their children a sense of worth and value in a country that spends its days saying just the opposite. Black men now have to cower before white women, hispanics, asians . . .

Sadly , the lack of trust among an increasing number of black citizens in whites anything may have cratered. But ever mindful of who holds the cards, plenty of “successful blacks” republican and democrat will still act as hall monitors among their own, demanding a form of obedience, more consequential than whites.

laugh, i stray.

In my life, the only thing celebrated about the US is largely contributions of US citizens or others have almost entirely about and for whites. Now why one has to wonder what whiteness has to do with anything at all. However, if one is going to male color a prerequisite for citizenship, then the focus on white skin makes perfect sense. In fact, I think, you don’t et any real backlash to response to this until the 1960’s. And while contributions of nonwhites would prick through to the surface, by and large one would think that everything good and wholesome or of value is derived from white’s in all ways at all times. I appreciate history, what ails us and what sends to higher planes. I think we need to embrace all as part and parcel to existence. So I have no issues that the country is predicated or at least predicated on some foundation that white skin is better, regardless of how muchless better a person might be than others. Because that reality doesn’t make actual/real/truthful and I have no issues with the consequences of that untruth, even as i might want to avoid the disasters choice of slavery by the founders. It is only disasters in light of the exceptional concept of our human equality, before God, men and the law to justice.

That is why its profound, because no other country started out with that stated framework, and even if one could prove otherwise, its what we did or do with that is the question. I like our concept of setting others free via democratic ideals — but democracy is not a white creation. There are even rumors that African civilizations practiced it. But what value that would have in comprehending the practice in the US. I had no idea that inoculations originated among slaves. Until I toured plantations in Louisiana, i had no idea that slaves were the designers and brought with them skills of ventilation for homes. No clue. I was taught that after the civil war lacks wonder aimlessly around the country, when in fact, if they wandered, they were looking for their wives, husbands and children who had been sold or they were dashing to discover the land of their birth – the US or its territories. No clue that the real McCoy was to the creation of train axle grease by a black citizen that others imitated. That blacks were poets, musicians, scholars, mathmagicians who had managed to slip through the cracks of barriers. Coming out of school there were four or five blacks,

Crispus Attucks and Frederick Douglas, Harriet Tubman Booker T Washington and of course, Nat Turner, the murdering heathen.

That’s it. Of the millions of blacks in the country, 434,495 of them free, i am only aware of those coming out of school. I had no idea that 12% of the colonial military during the revolution were black. Yet, we talk a good deal about whites: germans, scotts, irish, english, welsh, french, etc. (Not a fan of the revolution — needless cause in my view) but nonetheless, the role played by balcks in the country’s history is a tad sparse in general education
https://www.army.mil/article/97705/Black_Soldiers_in_the_Revolutionary_War/