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J.D. Vance, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis, Harper Collins, 2016, $27.99.
This book was written before working-class Rust Belt whites handed the presidency to Donald Trump, but the widespread interest it has attracted — along with White Trash by Nancy Isenberg — may be due in part to that sudden reminder of the continuing importance of this long-despised class of Americans.
J. D. Vance’s Hillbilly Elegy actually made it to number one on the New York Times best seller list. Much of its popularity may be due to its format as a personal memoir that can be read as a modern-day Horatio Alger story: A boy from the Kentucky hills overcomes a chaotic home life to make it at Yale Law School and live the American Dream. Liberal readers are likely to come away from the book convinced of the need for a Marshall Plan for the Appalachians, but the author understands that his own success cannot be mechanically replicated for others by any government policy.
Life in Appalachia can be violent. The county where the author’s family originated was nicknamed “Bloody Breathitt,” and feuding was not uncommon. At the age of 12, the author’s grandmother caught someone stealing the family cow; she grabbed a rifle and shot him in the leg. According to family tradition, only the timely arrival of her father prevented her from finishing the man off.
While middle-class whites teach their children not to get into fights, mountain people teach theirs how to fight: “punch with your whole body, especially your hips; very few people appreciate how unimportant your fist is when it comes to hitting someone.” They do this because it is a practical necessity: Appalachia is home to a primitive honor culture, in which failure to avenge an insult is seen as proof of weakness. And life is very harsh on any hillbilly others think is weak.
Violence carries over into home life:
You never knew when the wrong word would turn a quiet dinner into a terrible fight, or when a minor childhood transgression would send a plate or a book flying across the room. It was like we were living among landmines — one wrong step, and kaboom.
Researching his people’s folkways, the author discovered a large psychological literature on ACEs, or “adverse childhood experiences.” These include:
Being sworn at, insulted, or humiliated by parents; being pushed, grabbed, or having something thrown at you; feeling that your family didn’t support each other; having parents who were separated or divorced; living with an alcoholic or drug user; living with someone who was depressed or attempted suicide; watching a loved one be physically abused.
Such stresses cause adrenaline and other hormones to flood the body. This produces the classic fight-or-flight response, which sometimes enables ordinary people to perform extraordinary feats, such as a mother lifting heavy objects off of her trapped child.
Unfortunately, the fight-or-flight response is a destructive constant companion. As [one psychologist] points out, the response is great “if you’re in a forest and there’s a bear. The problem is when that bear comes home from the bar every night.”
Such constant stress can actually change the chemistry of a child’s brain, hardwiring it for conflict even after conflict has passed. And it predicts anxiety, depression, heart disease, obesity and certain forms of cancer, as well as replication of the same harmful behavior in adult life: “Chaos begets chaos.” All these problems are far more common in Scots-Irish mountain people than in the American population at large — though violence and shiftlessness are undoubtedly passed on genetically as well.
Hillbillies like to think of themselves as hard-working people, but many are not. The author writes about a neighbor who quit his job because he was “sick of waking up early;” he later blamed his troubles on the “Obama economy.” Another man goofed off at work until he practically forced his boss to fire him; he was indignant at losing his job. As so often with blacks, many poor mountain folk appear unable to see the connection between their circumstances and their own behavior.
In 2009, ABC News ran a segment on “Mountain Dew mouth” — painful dental problems common in young Appalachian children who drink too much sugary soda. The overwhelming reaction in Appalachia itself to this report was that their children’s dental troubles were none of the journalists’ goddamn business. The network was deluged with angry complaints, most of which ignored the reality the network had described. As sociologists report, Appalachian people “learn from an early age to deal with uncomfortable truths by avoiding them or pretending that better truths exist.” This makes them resilient, but also makes it hard for them to look at themselves honestly.
Even when mired in poverty and in denial about their problems, traditional mountain people remain independent, self-reliant, and fiercely loyal to family. Neighbors know one another and enforce certain standards.
Family, friends, and neighbors would barge into your home without much warning. Mothers would tell their daughters how to raise their children. Fathers would tell sons how to do their jobs. Brothers would tell brothers-in-law how to treat their wives. Family life was something people learned on the fly with a lot of help from their neighbors.
[Hill people] say hello to everyone, willingly skip their favorite pastimes to dig a stranger’s car out of the snow, and — without exception — stop their cars, get out, and stand at attention every time a funeral motorcade drives past. Why, I’d ask my grandma, did everybody stop for a passing hearse? “Because, honey, we’re hill people. And we respect our dead.”
Hillbillies are also among the most patriotic Americans, and heavily overrepresented in the military. Politically, they have a tradition of supporting the Democrats — “the party of the working man.”
The 20th century saw two great waves of emigration from Appalachia to the industrial cities of the Midwest. The first happened after World War I and ended with the depression; the second followed World War II. Those who took part in the exodus say that the three Rs they learned in school were “Readin’ Ritin’ and Route 23” — the “hillbilly highway” that led to better paying jobs in Ohio and beyond.
The author’s grandparents, Jim and Bonnie Vance, were respectively 16 and 13 when they conceived their first child. The couple quickly married and joined the post-World War II exodus, lying on the birth certificate to keep Jim out of jail and prevent Bonnie from being shipped back to her parents. In the lingo of sociobiology, Scots-Irish mountain folk are exceptionally “r-selected” whites.
Eventually they landed in Middletown, Ohio, a nondescript town where Jim got a job with a local steel company. Although it was a 20-hour drive back home to southeast Kentucky, they made the journey several times a year: family ties are strong among mountain people. Two generations later, the author affirms that while he had a series of addresses in Middletown growing up, he firmly understood that his home was in the Kentucky hills.
Those who participated in the postwar migration usually improved their circumstances, but often found it hard to fit in. One historian has written that the Appalachian migrants “shared many regional characteristics with the southern blacks arriving in Detroit,” and “disrupted a broad set of assumptions held by Northern whites about how white people appeared, spoke, and behaved.”
One of the Mr. Vance’s fellow hillbillies got a job as a mailman in Middletown. As he had learned to do in the hills of Kentucky, he
kept a flock of chickens in his back yard. Every morning he collected the eggs, and when his chicken population grew too large, he’d take a few of the old ones, wring their necks, and carve them up for meat right in his backyard. You can just imagine a well-bred housewife watching out the window in horror as her Kentucky-born neighbor slaughtered squawking chickens just a few feet away.
The author’s grandmother sympathized, in her native vernacular, with her fellow Kentuckian: “Fucking zoning laws can kiss my asshole.”
The transition from Kentucky to Ohio was not easy for the author’s grandparents. Hillbillies live in large groups of aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins; in Ohio, people stay in the nuclear family. The Vance’s new neighbors were strangers to them, and generally stayed that way.
Along with several miscarriages and infant deaths, the couple managed to produce three surviving children, one of whom was the author’s mother.
The Vances
always maintained a measured optimism about their children’s futures. They were unquestionably wealthier than the family members who had stayed in Kentucky. They reasoned that if they could go from a one-room schoolhouse in Jackson to a two-story suburban home with the comforts of the middle class, then their children and grandchildren should have no problem attending college and acquiring a share of the American Dream. They knew that life was a struggle, and though the odds were a bit longer for people like them, that didn’t excuse failure. “Never be like these fucking losers who think the deck is stacked against them,” my grandma often told me. “You can do anything you want to.”
Indeed, they assumed that what had been good enough for them should not be good enough for their children. When the author’s mother took up with a boyfriend who bore too close a resemblance to the folks back home, Bonnie Vance’s condemnation was fierce: “He’s a toothless fucking retard!”
The same principle applied to jobs. The next generation was to work with their minds, not their hands. Jim Vance refused to arrange employment for his eldest son at the steel company where he himself worked; the only acceptable employment there for the rising generation was as an engineer, not as a welder: “To my grandparents, the goal was to get out of Kentucky and give their kids a head start. The kids, in turn, were expected to do something with that head start.”
But the first generation born outside Appalachia also had troubles. Apart from frequent family trips back to the Kentucky hills, they grew up without the social support their parents had taken for granted. They went to modern schools with thousands of other students, and felt isolated.
Then the industrial companies on which their parents’ modest prosperity had depended began leaving or going out of business, to be replaced by cash-for-gold shops and payday lenders. Employment at the local steel company quickly went from not good enough to unattainable. The better-off left town; poorer families were trapped by declining property values, unable to sell their homes.
I knew even as a child that there were two separate sets of mores and social pressures. My grandparents embodied one type: old-fashioned, quietly faithful, self-reliant, hard working. My mother and, increasingly, the entire neighborhood embodied another: consumerist, isolated, angry, distrustful.
By the time the author’s mother was nineteen, she was already divorced with a baby girl to support — no job, no credentials, and no college credits. The author was the product of marriage number two, which did not last much longer than the first. A third marriage followed. The family lived just a few blocks from the elder Vances, now known to the author as Papaw and Mamaw. For a while, it was barely tolerable.
When the author was about nine, “things began to unravel.” His family moved to another town, far from the grandparents. Fights started to became common. The author describes the lessons he drew from this experience as a child:
Never speak at a reasonable volume when screaming will do; if a fight gets a little too intense, it’s okay to slap and punch, so long as the man doesn’t hit first; always express your anger in a way that’s insulting and hurtful to your partner; if all else fails, take the kids and the dog to a local motel, and don’t tell your spouse where to find you — if he or she knows where the children are, he or she won’t worry as much, and your departure won’t be as effective.
Predictably, family troubles began to affect his grades:
Many nights I’d lie in bed, unable to sleep because of the noise — heavy stomping, yelling, sometimes glass shattering. The next morning I’d wake up tired and depressed, meandering through the school day, thinking constantly about what awaited at home. I just wanted to retreat to a place where I could sit in silence. I couldn’t tell anyone what was going on, as that was far too embarrassing. And though I hated school, I hated home more. When the teacher announced that we had only a few minutes to clean our desks before the bell rang, my heart sank. I’d stare at the clock as though it were a ticking bomb.
The author’s mother got caught in an extramarital affair, ending that marriage and prompting a return to Middletown. She was soon drinking hard, and cycling through a string of boyfriends one of the author’s school friends called “flavor of the month.” Her temper got worse. There was an ugly incident, and the police were called.
A trial followed, in which much depended on the 12-year-old author’s testimony. He had a difficult balancing act: make his home life appear bad enough so that he would be allowed to escape from it, but not so bad that his mother would go to jail.
He succeeded. He was now free to move between his mother’s and his grandparents’ houses, “and Mamaw told me that if Mom had a problem with the arrangement, she could talk to the barrel of Mamaw’s gun.”
But the chaos of his mother’s life continued to wreak havoc:
I was a sophomore in high school, and I was miserable. The constant moving and fighting, the seemingly endless carousel of new people I had to meet, learn to love, and then forget . . . . I had nearly failed out of my freshman year of high school, earning a 2.1 GPA. I didn’t do my homework, I didn’t study, and my attendance was abysmal. Some days I’d fake an illness, and others I’d just refuse to go. Along with [these other troubles] came drug experimentation — nothing hard, just what alcohol I could get my hands on and a stash of weed [a friend] and I found.
A drug-related crisis in the mother’s life led to the author moving in permanently with his grandmother (his grandfather had died by this time). This newfound stability provided the critical turning point in his life. His school performance improved almost immediately, and he lost interest in drugs: “Those three years with Mamaw saved me.”
Relieved of the worst of his personal problems, the author began to take an interest in the lives of his neighbors, which were often no better than what he had escaped from. A job as a cashier at a local grocery provided the opportunity for a bit of amateur sociology. He noticed, for instance, that many of the poorer customers, as judged by clothing and food stamp use, were animated by “a frenetic stress” and were more likely than others to buy precooked or frozen food.
I learned how people gamed the welfare system. They’d buy two dozen-packs of soda with food stamps and then sell them at a discount for cash. They’d ring up their orders separately, buying food with food stamps and beer, wine and cigarettes with cash. I could never understand why our lives felt like a struggle while those living off of government largess enjoyed trinkets I could only dream about.
Every two weeks, I’d get a small paycheck and notice the line where federal and state income taxes were deducted from my wages. At least as often, our drug-addict neighbor would buy T-bone steaks, which I was too poor to buy for myself but was forced by Uncle Sam to buy for someone else.
The author began to suspect that his grandparents’ beloved “party of the working man” was not all it was cracked up to be:
Political scientists have spent millions of words trying to explain how Appalachia and the South went from staunchly Democratic to staunchly Republican in less than a generation. A big part of the explanation [is] that many in the white working class saw precisely what I did.
Now sixteen, the author began reading up on the social problems that affected his community. One book he discovered was The Truly Disadvantaged, by Harvard sociologist William Julius Wilson, whose argument he summarizes as follows:
As millions migrated north to factory jobs, the communities that sprouted up around those factories were vibrant but fragile. When the factories shut their doors, the people left behind were trapped in towns and cities that could no longer support such large populations with high-quality work. Those who could — generally the well-educated, wealthy, or well-connected — left, leaving behind communities of poor people. Those remaining folks were the “truly disadvantaged” — unable to find good jobs on their own and surrounded by communities that offered little in the way of connections or social support.
This described Middletown’s hillbilly transplants perfectly, but it was not meant to; Wilson was writing about black people in inner cities. The author experienced the same shock of recognition in another book about the problems of urban blacks: Charles Murray’s Losing Ground.
On a visit to his biological father, the author came to realize that something was also missing from the religious life of his community:
Dad’s church offered something desperately needed by people like me. For alcoholics, it gave them a community of support and a sense that they weren’t fighting addiction alone. For expectant mothers, it offered a free home with job training and parenting classes. When someone needed a job, church friends could either provide one or make introductions. When Dad faced financial troubles, his church banded together and purchased a used car for the family. In the broken world I saw around me, religion offered tangible assistance to keep the faithful on track.
The author’s grandmother read the Bible regularly, but never went to church: “the folks back home . . . were deeply religious but without any attachment to a real church community. In the middle of the Bible Belt, active church attendance is actually quite low.” Such churches as exist there tend to be “heavy on emotional rhetoric but light on the kind of social support necessary to enable poor kids to do well.”
For a long time, the author desperately wanted to believe that his community’s troubles were caused by outside forces — that if industry could be brought back, the pathologies would disappear. But he saw too many examples of people responding in the worst possible way to admittedly real challenges. His community was:
a world of truly irrational behavior. We spend our way into the poorhouse. We buy giant TVs and iPads. Our children wear nice clothes thanks to high-interest credit cards and payday loans. We purchase homes we don’t need, refinance them for more spending money, and declare bankruptcy, often leaving them full of garbage in our wake. Our eating and exercise habits seem designed to send us to an early grave. In certain parts of Kentucky, life expectancy is sixty-seven, a full decade and a half below what it is in nearby Virginia.
In keeping with the higher standards to which hillbillies held their offspring, the author was expected to go to college. But he had a strong suspicion that, despite his improved school performance, he was not ready. A cousin advised him to consider the Marine Corps: “They’ll whip your ass into shape.” It was good advice:
The Marines changed the expectations that I had for myself. In boot camp, the thought of climbing the thirty-foot rope inspired terror; by the end of my first year, I could climb the rope using only one arm. Before I enlisted, I had never run a mile continuously. On my last physical fitness test, I ran three of them in nineteen minutes.
The corps also understands the need to make up for the lack of social capital in many of its recruits’ communities of origin:
The Marine Corps assumes maximum ignorance from its enlisted folks. It assumes no one taught you anything about physical fitness, personal hygiene, or personal finances. I took mandatory classes about balancing a checkbook, saving, and investing. When I came home from boot camp with my fifteen hundred dollar earnings deposited in a mediocre regional bank, a senior enlisted marine drove me to Navy Federal — a respected credit union — and had me open an account.
In the Marines, my boss didn’t just make sure I did a good job, he made sure I kept my room clean, kept my hair cut, and ironed my uniforms. He sent an older marine to supervise as I shopped for my first car so that I’d end up with a practical car, not the BMW I wanted. When I nearly agreed to finance that purchase directly through the car dealership with a 21-percent-interest-loan, my chaperone blew a gasket and ordered me to call Navy Fed and get a second quote (it was less than half the interest). I had no idea that people did these things. Compare banks? I thought they were all the same. Shop around for a loan? I felt so lucky to even get a loan that I was ready to pull the trigger immediately. The Marine Corps demanded that I think strategically about these decisions, and then taught me how to do so.
Perhaps what places like Middletown need even more than the reopening of the factories is a few Marine sergeants.
Psychologists [speak of] “learned helplessness” when a person believes, as I did during my youth, that the choices I made had no effect on the outcomes of my life. Middletown’s world of small expectations had taught me that I had no control . . . . Whenever people ask me what I’d most like to change about the white working class, I say, “The feeling that our choices don’t matter.” The Marine Corps excised that feeling like a surgeon does a tumor.
In short, the corps was the second essential step, after moving from his mother’s to his grandmother’s home, which enabled the author’s Horatio Alger rise. Ohio State presented few challenges for a Marine veteran. He had two off-campus jobs in addition to a full schedule of coursework, but still graduated summa cum laude in under two years — with a double major.
His August graduation meant he had to wait a year to begin law school. This final year in Middletown brought home to him the contrast between his optimism about his own life and the mindset of most of his contemporaries. His friends and family would constantly send him stories about Obama implementing martial law to gain a third term, government plans to implant microchips in American citizens, the Newtown massacre being staged as a prelude to gun confiscation, etc.
The extravagance of these theories was not what most concerned him. Rather, it was their constant underlying message that we are helpless. Powerful people control everything we see happening, and nothing we do makes any difference.
Here is where the rhetoric of modern conservatives (and I say this as one of them) fails to meet the real challenges of their biggest constituents. Instead of encouraging engagement, conservatives increasingly foment the kind of detachment that has sapped the ambition of so many of my peers. The message of the right is increasingly: It’s not your fault that you’re a loser; it’s the government’s fault.
The author also became aware of the clumsy efforts of outsiders to help the troubled life of his community. The Ohio legislature debated a bill to outlaw payday lenders, whom they saw as predatory sharks. But the politicians “had little appreciation for the role of payday lenders in the shadow economy that people like me occupied.” The author describes how such a lender could solve important financial problems for people in a place like Middletown. “The lesson? Powerful people sometimes do things to help people like me without understanding people like me.”
Something similar was true of family law:
In the eyes of the law, my grandmother was an untrained caretaker without a foster license. If things went poorly for my mother in the courts, I was as likely to find myself with a foster family as with Mamaw. The notion of being separated from everyone and everything I loved was terrifying. In other words, our country’s social services weren’t made for hillbilly families, and they often make a bad problem worse.
The author’s experiences at Yale Law School are a study in culture shock. He is astounded to learn that Tony Blair is coming to campus just to address a small student group, but finds that everyone else is blasé about it: “Yeah, he speaks at Yale all the time; his son is an undergraduate.”
Every year, recruiters from prestigious law firms descend on New Haven in search of legal talent. It is called the Fall Interview Program, a marathon week of dinners, cocktail hours, hospitality suite visits, and interviews. The author experiences it like the hillbilly he is:
I finally mustered the courage to answer yes when someone asked me whether I’d like some wine and if so, what kind. “I’ll take white,” I said, which I thought would settle the matter. “Would you like sauvignon blanc or chardonnay?” I thought she was screwing with me. But I used my powers of deduction to determine that those were two separate kinds of white wine. So I ordered a chardonnay, because it was easier to pronounce.
His table setting provokes panic: “I looked down and observed an absurd number of instruments. Nine utensils? Why, I wondered, did I need three spoons? Why were there multiple butter knives?” Only a quick dash to the men’s room and emergency phone call to his non-hillbilly girlfriend gets him through the ordeal.
Later he learns that the entire process is about
passing a social test — a test of belonging, of holding your own in a corporate boardroom, of making connections with potential future clients. Our interviews weren’t so much about grades or résumés; thanks to a Yale Law pedigree, one foot was already in the door.
The farcical misunderstandings conceal a deeper lesson:
The wealthy and powerful aren’t just wealthy and powerful; they follow a different set of norms and mores. I had always thought that when you need a job, you look online for job postings. And then you submit a dozen résumés. The problem is, virtually everyone who plays by those rules fails. That week of interviews showed me that successful people are playing a different game. They don’t flood the job market with résumés, hoping that some employer will grace them with an interview. They network. They email a friend of a friend. They have their uncles call old college buddies. They have their parents tell them how to dress, what to say, and whom to schmooze.
That doesn’t mean the strength of your résumés or interview performance is irrelevant. Those things certainly matter. But there is enormous value in what economists call social capital. It’s a professor’s term, but the concept is pretty simple: The networks of people and institutions around us have real economic value. They connect us to the right people, ensure that we have opportunities, and impart valuable information. Without them, we’re going it alone.
The author found that costly mistakes could be avoided and valuable opportunities discovered only by learning to ask the right people the right questions.
A different sort of culture shock awaited the author when he visited his fiancée’s family for dinner:
I was amazed at the lack of drama. [My fiancée’s] mother didn’t complain about her father behind his back. There were no suggestions that good family friends were liars or backstabbers, no angry exchanges between a man’s wife and sister. When I asked her father about a relatively estranged family member, I expected to hear a rant about character flaws. What I heard instead was sympathy and a little sadness.
The author also struggled to unlearn hillbilly honor culture. For the first 18 years of his life, standing down in the face of an insult would have gotten him a verbal lashing for being a “pussy” or “wimp.” At the prestigious law firm where he now works, obeying his impulse to respond to perceived slights with his fists would leave him looking like a lunatic rather than a tough guy. As he politely phrases it, hillbilly men “suffer from a peculiar crisis of masculinity in which some of the very traits that our culture inculcates make it difficult to succeed in a changing world.”
Culture shock ran both ways; the author was surprised to find himself an object of interest to his new acquaintances.
Very few people at Yale Law School are like me. They may look like me, but for all of the Ivy League’s obsession with diversity, virtually everyone — black, white, Jewish, Muslim, whatever — comes from intact families who never worry about money. Professors and classmates seemed genuinely interested in what seemed to me a boring story: I went to a mediocre public high school, my parents didn’t go to college, [etc.] At Yale, many of my friends had never spent time with a veteran of America’s newest wars.
Everyone at Yale believes theoretically in the importance of social mobility, but many are baffled when it actually occurs and results in their meeting someone like the author. He even overheard one of his professors suggesting that Yale Law should not accept applicants from non-prestigious state schools. He concludes: “One way our upper class can promote upward mobility is by opening their hearts and minds to the newcomers who don’t quite belong.”
Hillbilly Elegy is an extraordinary book by a man who, at a comparatively early age (31 at the time of publication) has attained real insight into the deeper social significance of his own life. But does the book hold lessons for us? The author’s approach is more sociological than biological; if anything, going to Yale has reinforced his racial orthodoxy. Certainly, the book can be read as a cautionary tale against any racially-based sense of complacency white Americans may have in the face of black dysfunction; it brings home to the reader just how vulnerable many whites are to the very same problems. As I have written elsewhere, whites are not immune to a sort of “reafricanization” under unfavorable social circumstances.
Fans of Sam Francis will also appreciate the author’s account of the fatalistic mentality of poorer whites, their loss of any sense of personal agency. Such a mindset may constitute not so much a failure as the success of the present American regime. As Francis wrote in 1992:
The inculcation of passivity by the managerial system and its elite is an essential foundation of its power, not only on the political level but also on the social, economic, and cultural levels as well. The entire structure of the system depends upon manipulating its members into believing (or not challenging the assumption) that they are not capable of performing the simple social functions that every human society in history has performed as a matter of routine. It is the constant instruction of the propagandists of the system that we are not capable of educating our own children, taking care of them without brutalizing them, providing for our own health or old age, enforcing our own laws, defending our own homes and neighborhoods, or earning our own living. We are not capable of thinking our own thoughts without ubiquitous and self-appointed pundits to explain to us what we see and hear, nor of forming our own tastes and opinions without advice from experts nor even of deciding when to laugh when we watch television.
This is a pretty good description of the kind of mentality our institutions — apart, perhaps, from the Marine Corps — are designed to foster. And the economic advancement of Rust Belt Scots-Irish is not the only positive change such mental habits can hinder. Many on the pro-white Right are vulnerable to the same style of conspiracy-mongering as the frustrated citizens of Middletown. Quite apart from the truth or falsity of any particular theory, they usually convey a subtext of helplessness: Powerful people have everything under control. While those who offer such a council of despair may think of themselves as more sophisticated than the rubes who believe what they hear on Fox News, in reality they may be the most perfect products of managerialism’s indoctrination into passivity and helplessness.
The powerful never have everything under control. Today, they panic at the thought of a racial dissident being allowed to speak on a college campus. If a hillbilly from a broken home can reclaim his natural sense of agency in order to change his own life, we can defeat the corrupt representatives of a threadbare ideology.
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And yet this rags-to-riches hero would force American boys to go abroad — for the benefit of insane child-murdering cultists (“israelis”) and military manufacturers — to murder and maim and terrorize innocent people, living thousands of miles from our borders, who are not attacking or preparing to attack us.
Rather than spend money on expanding hospital capacity, making drug rehabilitation available to more people, renovating schools, repairing roads and bridges, and getting our young men into vocational and technical training … Vance will spend hundreds of billions of dollars, or trillions of dollars, all of it borrowed at interest (payable to rich donors), to fund a needless non-defensive war against Iran, Russia or even China.
Fuck Vance, Trump, and the Dems alike.
We’ll be casting all third-party and write-in votes for federal offices.
Write in James Patrick Anthony Dore for President.
For US Senate and US Congress, write in some non-murdering non-lying non-usurer (non-“veteran” non-lawyer non-banker) who is neither Dem nor Republican and has never held office as part of those parties.
Then prepare for the elections to change little for the better, and prepare to get your kids a new life abroad ASAP.
One thing that Vance overlooks is IQ. Let’s face it — most kids in the US (and the whole world) don’t have the capacity to go to college. Getting past Geometry is a no go for most. But that shouldn’t matter — a functioning nation (state) SHOULD be able to absorb them economically and thus provide them with social relevance (my life matters). We understand this very well in the West. When we meet someone for the first time, we always immediately ask them “What do you do?”
JD Vance is clearly a smart, above average IQ, dude. Every Success is made up of a string of small successes which encourage and validate us to continue on. Finding small successes, breakthroughs are easier (more natural) to people with high(er) IQs.
I am not surprised that JD Vance is oblivious of the impact of a socialist structure that USA Marine Corps has on the individual development and social outcomes: free housing, free food, free health care, free counseling, free education, guaranteed employment with built-in raises. All 6 of them worked on Vance at once. He does, correctly, point one what happens when all 6 “frees” are not operating in tandem and when only 1 or 2 of them are working (eg. free food via food stumps –> addiction, free health care–> too many children, etc.)
Hillbilly Elegy is a rewarmed “Look how awesome I am, you can be too” dish. In short, I demand to be congratulated for self-congratulating.
Vance was a propaganda specialist for the Marines. Fast-tracked through law school (Yale), fast-tracked through Silicon Valley finance, bought a Senate seat with Peter Thiel’s money, and two years later he’s the VP selection for the man he openly denounced.
Vance glows brighter than the sun. He was picked as VP to secure Musk and Thiel’s campaign funding, and in turn he will act as the errand boy for Big Tech. He will betray Trump, no question about it.
Yeah, right. I love these horatio alger allegories that point up exactly the political points that our owners want to be pointed up.
Gee, I bet some of it is even true.
Agreed 1000%
America is nearly done. All politicians have completely and totally lost their collective fucking minds. A lazy and stupid citizenry allowed Israelis and other hostile foreigners, greedy multinational corporate CEOs, demonic Non Governmental Organizations, Insane scientists with megalomaniacal egos, satanic bloodline Elites and fill in the rest of the fucking blanks to destroy every White Western nation in some twisted bid to create a permanent slave race that They can use, slaughter, destroy, torture, starve, sicken, etc, at the push of a button.
I hope the Mickey Ds, cheap sex and booze, trips to Disneyworld and the Lazy Boy EZ chairs was all worth it.
What makes me sick are all the ‘He was a Marine! That’s good enough for me! OoOO-Rahhh!! *fist pump* commenters on all the sites. Fucking idiot sheeple, Vance was a Marine……..so the hell was Oliver North…
And not only did that bastard commit High Treason, he worked on illegal Black Projects designed to supplant the U.S. Constitution and put ‘Joe 6 pack’s’ wage-slave ass in a concentration fun camp should he open his mouth to complain.
Vance is no different. Being in the Military does not make one automatically G.I. Joe. That was a dam cartoon.
Sometimes it seems like Unz is occupied by people whose motto is ‘I hate everyone’.
David French
https://amp.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article290091484.html
Jackson is the precise location.
37°33’11.0″N 83°23’18.0″W
There is nothing there but it’s only 30 mi. or so from Lexington. In J. D. Vance’s lifetime feuding was long over with. Any stories about maw maw and paw paw are exactly that. Stories about maw maw and paw paw.
Now, if you go another 30 mi you are around Pikeville. And you probably don’t want to go there. But if you do go there early spring is the best time!
A most logical motto
This inept country needs a great cleansing all the way at the top to all the 3rd world shit invading the West, i.e. Europe, North America, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, etc.
Vance didn’t vote for Trump in 2016. I hope the MAGA cult is aware of that. He said Trump will either be like Nixon or the next Hitler.
Vance’s policies are pretty obvious. Israel First, America Second, but wear an America First hat for the voters.
Can’t help Ukraine cause we can’t afford it. 8 billion for Israel even though they haven’t asked for aid? Let’s write that check.
I can tell Vance has the tradcon Roosa delusion. In his mind Putin is preventing the next multi-kult godless country…by killing Orthodox men with Muslims and all kinds of Russian minorities……and bringing in Muslims to replace the Slavs.
Another Newsmax/Fox watching confused mess of a White man.
I suppose it could be worse. We could have a Rapture Ready nutter or a minority for the sake of one. Con Inc certainly likes to pull the LOOK WE FOUND A BLACK GUY move from the liberal playbook.
Don’t worry about Vance betraying Trump. Trump will and has betrayed all of his voters and will continue to do so. Trump is a willing tool of Zionist Jews.
I tried reading the book at the library when it was supposedly popular. Horrible organization and laborious writing. I thought a smug 9th grader wrote it. Now its sales are clear – it was bought in bulk as a payoff for an aspiring politician. Frankly, Vance (fake name) belongs in the same category as “Nikki Haley” as an author of a political manifesto (although a badly written one).
He pretends to be a devout Christian but marries a Hindu (people that worship cows). Come on, man!
That’s a decent point. Just because someone served in the military does not automatically render them into being even a patriot, much less moral or decent. Benedict Arnold wore the Army Blue after all, and he went over to the British side when he felt snubbed.
Most people who’ve joined the military since the draft ended in 1974 or so have done so for career advancement: The G. I. Bill to attend college, automatic points in hiring in a number of fields (law enforcement, for example), etc. There’s nothing necessarily wrong with any of that but the automated worship of anyone with a military record is just blind foolishness.
Juan McStain, one of the most odious traitors in U.S. history, served in the military and even was held in a Vietnamese prison. His father, a U.S. Navy admiral, covered up the Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. Treason runs deep in that family. That’s not to say there aren’t great ones in uniform as well.
Probably the greatest military patriot I can name is Gen. Smedley Butler, USMC. He came to understand genuine patriotism late in life, after considerable experience around the world in combat. The result of this revelation was his very important little booklet entitled War is a Racket, which should be required reading in schools. Butler was in line to be commandant of the Marine Corps, but was passed over for another despite the two medals of honor earned. His booklet is the likely reason for the early end of his illustrious career.
Mr. Vance took full advantage of his service so I feel no particular need to thank him for it, especially as his tour of duty consisted of being a “combat correspondent” and “working for the Public Affairs section of the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing” (e.g. Pentagon Propaganda Ministry) in Murika’s mission to make Iraq safe for the rainbow flag, feminism, LGBT and (above all) to benefit “Our Greatest Ally”. A career that would serve to get him brownie points in many luxurious locales: MIC corporate offices, AIPAC, Yale Law and other assorted dens of well-endowed depravity.
The only thing to say about Trump’s choice here is that he could have selected someone even worse, like Lady G’s house-negro Mr. Tim, Meatball Ron, Nimrata-Kali the bomb-whisperer, etc. As OH senator, the author of Hillbilly Elegy (which was made into a movie, BTW) took some two weeks to respond to the horrific disaster in East Palestine, OH. One must wonder if he would be so tardy to respond to a disaster in places like Beechwood or Shaker Heights. His AIPAC handler would no doubt make sure his response would be appropriately fast – even though he didn’t carry those neighborhoods in the election. Funny how that works…. Still, he at least stood up for not sending endless funds to the cash-laundromat in Kiev run by the no-hands maestro of the piano in order for “the big guy” to get his cut (likely a paltry percentile compared to certain others) – which is something I suppose.
Yes he does. I read somewhere that his bride worked as a glowie for everyone’s favorite agency. Don’t know of that’s true but his rags to riches route was a remarkably fast one for some white guy. With his propaganda ministry experience, he should prove useful in getting the palefaced youth to sign up to fight Iran for Satanyahoo and his rodentine-visaged supporters (who never have to dirty their noses in such things), while the southern border remains wide open to invasion.
I remain slightly hopeful. Vance came up the hard way and has had to employ rough tactics and as a lawyer sleaze tactics to succeed. I have read he opposes further support for Ukraine. As regards Israel, I read, as with Trump, a reading between the lines. For a Trump Administration to continue to arm expansionist Israel would be catastrophic for them also. Incidentally, Hillbilly Elegy reminds me of China.
it was a 20-hour drive back
No, it wasn’t. Twenty hours, uphill both ways, Mr. Hamel?
There are people who live in West Virginia who commute to the Greater Cincinnati area or go home on the weekends. This is not unusual.
OooOo-RAhhh! Well said! I just hope some of the pie-eyed pro-Vance, pro-street shitter dinguses on here take the time to truly read and understand the message in your comment.
3 hr. 19 min. according to Google for Cincinnati to Charleston, WV.
Rough – he looks a Pillsbury Dough Boy.
Suppose Vance met Jethro Clampett and Ellie May’s chimp encouraged Vance to study harder. At Yale he meets Bill Gates on holiday and Bill takes his resume back to Seattle and then suddenly some characters appear at Vance’s residence and Vance advances. THE AMIERICAN DREAM —another rags to riches story –namby pamby BS for the Clampett Family to hand Miss Hathaway-
This is idiotic BS, I’m from WV coal mining country. The book/movie October Sky describes the life of a kid who grew up not to far from where I grew up, southern WV, and went on to become an aerospace engineer. Great book, great movie. I did the same thing, got a PhD from Berkeley and worked for years in aerospace! I liked October Sky a lot, and when I came across Hillbilly Elegy I looked forward to reading it. But, unlike October Sky, nothing in Vance’s book rang true. What he was describing had nothing to do with Appalachia, what I remember is it was just senseless carping about his own situation which he tried to blame on his surroundings, just complete idiocy. I didn’t get too far in the book, thinking that the book was BS and Vance (this is his 3rd name) a phony and an opportunist.
Now Vance is a shameless Shabbos goy who more than anything else, loves Israel – https://old.bitchute.com/video/JLGgf82KL8Ql/
He wrote his memoirs at 32 (lots of lived life to reminisce about…) and although Americas are not readers it became a huge best seller. Two possibilities: lots of lots of hillbillies bought and read it voraciously, grateful that someone was finally rhapsodizing about their tough life or…. Peter Thiel bought the entire first print.
Without having read the actual book, the curious thing is that I noticed just the opposite.
I was reading a discussion of Hillbilly Elegy at the New York Times — a favorite haunt of Liberalius Americanus if there ever was one.
Now, this set is normally overflowing with sympathy and understanding for the disadvantaged and the obstacles they face — if said disadvantaged are black or brown. But the subjects of Hillbilly Elegy were white — and oh, boy, it was a different story.
Tough love. What they need is some git up and go. Try a little hard work. No mercy from the Times readership. No sir.
I find it all very suspicious of the swift exponential trajectory that put in the position he is in now. Then I followed the money, and yea… We got us another phoney hero that is going to sell you out.
Necessarily. If you’re not a willing tool of the Jews, you won’t get anywhere in politics. One has to accept this and move on. The whole situation is curiously like Iran. You can vote for whoever you like — as long as he’s been vetted and approved by the mullahs.
Sounds like a fake memoir designed to set him up for politics. Up from poverty, hard scrabble rough living that sounds more like the 1930s than 1990s and 2000s, tough white kid unschooled and awkward amongst the elite….Horatio Alger is right.
As in made up.
Reality:
Vance was a Yale kid, worked for a Big Firm, a non-combat tour of duty in the military to shore up his military-political credentials (Buttigeig did the same), then became a venture capitalist in California (!), where he was knee deep in communist-Deep State computer world. Then gets his “memoir” published at 31 where it becomes a hit, he’s on all the lefty talk shows—and then he gets it made into a big budget Hollywood production! How wonderfully fortunate for him and his career.
He’s got Deep State plant written all over him.
If I had a guess, I would say Vance was a coddled smart boy-sociopath from the provinces, and his family wasn’t all that rough to him—most of his stories are probably what happened to others or what he was told to write to make himself sound sympathetic. He got in with other sociopaths in the big power centers as soon as he could. Then smart money/power got behind him, seeing in him the Deep State puppet that could easily fool right wingers into thinking he was just like them.
Vance’s rise since getting to Yale law has been astounding to say the least–much like Obama’s, who, after transferring from Occidental to Columbia, suddenly kept rising higher and higher despite never actually, you know, doing anything himself when he got promoted. Almost like the two were hand picked, pushed, and protected by Deep Staters as the right combination of looks, smarmy charm, and background to be sellable as politicians.
In short, Trump made a bad choice for VP. Again. Should have gone with Flynn.
There is absolutely no way Vance’s Grandmother would drop F’bombs.
(I lived and worked for 20 years outside of Middletown Ohio and none of the “Billie” grandmas would so much as use damn. )
What a load of BS and violence. It is like killing a human being for trying to steal a cow, if it is true. It doesn’t happen in religiously violent India.
Vance is a White Obama.
It is difficult for me to believe that Trump made this choice for his VP without first getting the green light from Mariam Adelson, since she intends to “donate” $100 million dollars to his 2024 campaign.
https://thepostmillennial.com/mega-donor-miriam-adelson-pledges-over-100-million-to-trump-super-pac-report
And, as a result of trying to interpret this peculiar set of contradictory events – knowing full well that the source of 99% of the anti-White hate and animus that has been steadily increasing towards Whites in America and around the entire White Western world (one exception is in Hungary) can be directly traced to the tribe Mariam Adelson is a member of – it strikes me as very strange that she would give her approval to have two White men at the top of the GOP’s ticket for 2024. Especially when the one selected as the potential heir apparent to Trump has a background and personal history that reminds me of Jed Clampett on the old & very popular Beverly Hillbillies TV show.
Perhaps we should ponder this question: Are Whites being manipulated here and what might possibly be the motive for this manipulation? A few ideas crossed my mind, such as: Which demographic group of the American population has traditionally and historically been the most willing to join the U.S. Military and allow themselves to be used as cannon fodder to fight and die in wars that one specific nation in the Middle East loves to manipulate the United States into, while they sit in the bleachers and laugh hysterically over how easy it is to con America into fighting their wars for them? The answer would be White males, and especially White Southern males.
Well, that demographic group – according to the relentless whining and crying we have been hearing from the Pentagon and from the top ranking military officers – have wised up and are refusing to join the military – for a variety of reasons, with the #1 reason being that young White men have finally realized that their government hates them and have been lying our nation into one unnecessary war or conflict after another and none of those wars have anything to do with protecting this nation or it’s national security interests.
So, is there an ulterior motive that drove this decision to put J.D. “Jed Clampett” Vance on the ticket with Trump as his VP and heir apparent? Was that motive designed to trick those pesky and rebellious White men of military age into thinking that their nation had been returned to the hands of the White race who founded and built this nation and therefore, it was once again, worth fighting for? And, if White men are gullible enough to be snookered by this devious maneuver, millions of young White men would rush down to the nearest recruiter’s office and eagerly join the military?
In conclusion, are the hidden hands who control this nation plotting to drag America into yet another World War and have they decided to put two White men into the White House as part of their scheme to dupe millions of young White men into joining the military because they realize that these trannies and sexual degenerates and low IQ DEI minorities are incapable of winning any wars?
For anybody who didn’t make it through this disgusting “elegy” the TL;DR is:
(poor) White Peoples’ characters and culture are BAD
The only way to redeem yourself is to join the USMC and marry a brown woman (fortunately the USMC is stuffed to the gills with brown women)
I wonder (((who))) this message benefits?
Vance was a charity case for Yale. He should’ve stayed closer to home, maybe taught high school and been a good role model for kids like himself. He adds to his escapism by marrying into a weird foreign culture with problems of its own. He’s deluding himself because asian women compensate for being misfits in someone else’s culture by acting as if the natives are children. And, yet, India is run by a murderous thug. Vance is now working for a venture capital ponzi scheme funded by dirty money and will no doubt try to bury the US under horses of dot Indian immigrants. Thanks for nothing.
Also when did the pot-smoking, homework shirking marine have time to edify his mind? He didn’t. Like I said, charity case for Yale abandoning his people like the narcissist he most certainly is for his special-like-himself foreign friends and family. Thanks for nothing. I hope this jerk and his future running mate Ramaswampy don’t get anywhere near the White House. God knows where the money he plays with comes from, the Indian government most likely. There are a lot of things this guy still doesn’t know and wasn’t taught to ask. There will be a Dedalus moment, mark my words.
Good comment! Lots of pithy takes. To pick one: “Mr. Vance took full advantage of his service so I feel no particular need to thank him for it”.
Just so. Military service is terrifically remunerative [as long as you don’t get killed]. I was in for only five years and got a free college degree, a commercial pilot license and a nice wad of money in the bank, all while vacationing in Europe.
It is embarrassing to have people say “Thank you for your service.” My response is always “It was a privilege to serve.”
Earlier in this very same article, you described how the Marines micromanaged every aspect of Vance’s life.
lol
I agree with you on Vance, but why do you believe he would need to “betray Trump” in order to serve big tech companies? Trump himself said that MAGA stands for Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Amazon:
If anything, Trump is much more likely to “betray” Vance and throw him under the bus like he has done with pretty much everyone else who ever supported him (Sessions, Bannon, Christie, etc.)
Thanks for the overview. I basically barely heard of this guy until the VP pick; my knowledge of him was: he used to be poor, then he wrote a bestseller, now he’s a senator from some state or other.
I didn’t know Hillbilly Elegy was a memoir, I had thought it was some sort of analytical policy book about poor whites.
It’s good that Trump picked a young guy for VP, it freshens things up considerably… but based on what you wrote, this guy sounds intellectually REALLY young.
The gist that I got was: here is a man who found himself when young in a series of bad predicaments. But he had some ambition and some native smarts, and so he proceeded to choose wisely among the options available to him, to get himself out of these predicaments. Joining the Marines seemed like a good way to extract himself from the quicksand, then it improved his character — so much so that he then went to college and graduated with great speed, making up for some of the lost time which his college cohort hadn’t lost, never having served.
After that, he just made the most of the opportunities that got offered to him: “Hmm, going to law school seems like a good next move… — Wait, YALE?!? I’ll TAKE it!”
“Hmm, soft-handed egg-heads seem oddly fascinated by my rough background… Wait, WRITE A BOOK ABOUT MYSELF?!? I’ll DO it!”
“Hmm, a Yale degree and a bestseller seem to have improved my professional prospects nicely… Wait, VENTURE CAPITAL?!? I’ll TAKE it!”
“Hmm, my zany life story, my YLS degree and my rich tech colleagues seem to have raised my public profile, and I’m attracting rich backers… Wait, a SENATE SEAT?!? I’ll TAKE it!”
“Hmm, only two years in the Senate, but there’s a brewing crisis in the Presidential run, so maybe I should… Wait, WHAT?!? A VP NOMINATION?!? I’ll TAKE it!”
I don’t blame the guy for making the most of what fell in his lap once he’d gotten onto the royal road. But while it may be a colorful life story, it’s a very limp and anemic intellectual journey. This guy sounds like he’s been so busy succeeding, hopping from one golden lily-pad to the next, that he’s never had the time to develop any intellectual character or solid political principles.
You can’t help thinking he’s just a young, spiffed-up version of the guy from “Being There,” he just checks the right boxes for the needs of the moment. Which means he could be just silly putty in the hands of the elites, who are smart enough to get him to serve the Jews while making him think that all along he’s Doing the Right Thing.
Right you are. “They’re like the stars, on a summer morning. First they appear, and then they’re gone.” Elites don’t last more than about 3 generations, and they know it. It makes them nervous. Surprisingly, genetic lines of former conquerors can remain upper class for centuries, but the political factions come and go.
The comments on this article are amazing. They amount to “I’m helpless, and nothing is as it seems, and Vance is a liar.” Reminds me of a line from Huntress Thompson’s Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas — “As your attorney, I advise you to drink heavily.”
No, they kill someone for a rumor they tore a page of the evil tome known as Koran. Or even just spoke a word against the evil Muhammad.
A “hill billy” novelist and Yalie who nevertheless believes we must send poor White men overseas to die for the very creatures who have immiserated and marginalized them over the past several generations. Vance is just another installed puppet controlled by the hook-nosed baby killers of Gaza. Trump is no better.
Most likely Vance was scouted by intelligence during his time in the military, which accounts for the rest of his career. He fits the profile of the kind of person they would usually want to recruit (no loyalty to family or hometown, brown noser, etc.). As this article mentions, lower class white men from the boonies who go to state college don’t typically go on to Yale Law school. They need an in, and for Vance the most likely explanation would be intelligence connections (the link between Yale and intelligence agencies is well known). That would also explain why he was hired out of college by glowie Peter Thiel to work in “venture capital” (often a cover for black budget spending) despite having no known background or training in finance.
I think it’s safe to assume there is more to his “rags to riches” story. He didn’t just pull up his bootstraps and get by on gumption. Doors were opened for him.
This is surely because liberal types expect more from White people than they do non-Whites. There’s a word for having higher expectations of one Race of people compared to another Race of people but for the life of me I can’t think what it is.
Vance is Dan Crenshaw without the eye patch.
Military service in Jewmerica is a great gig for rapists and war criminals. It’s a grifter’s con game for predators who aren’t smart enough to get into a good school on their own merit. It is, in short, an American rite of passage.
Libertarian is
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Just another “made” politician weaving a false narrative. Sorry but I have had enough of fairy tales!
A good companion piece to “Hillbilly Elegy” is “Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America” by James Webb, a history of the Scots-Irish diaspora from Pennsylvania southward via the Appalachians.
Don’t buy the show in Milwaukee. Trump and Vance are going to fuck Whites over for street shitters, knee grows, and Jews. Poor Whitey is gonna be standing there with nothing but missing limbs from fighting in wars for Jews, no property, and destroyed family.
White America is done.
J.D. Vance showing the world who he answers to…
“And in America, we love the Jews, ladies and gentlemen.“
He chose the least offensive faction and the one most accessible to him.
Vance adopted the thinking of whoever was financing him, politically or monetarily. Frumm, Thiel, and now Trump.
Bingo!
“Dreams of My Father” and now “Hillbilly Elegy”
And what do Obama and Vance have in common?
They are both British Pilgrim’s Society cutouts, with Vance’s handler being his wife Usha, whose resume herself demonstrates that she has been well groomed and positioned!
https://aim4truth.org/2024/07/17/j-d-vances-hindu-wife-usha-is-an-evident-handler-of-j-d-vance-for-the-british-pilgrims-society/
Food stamps LOL.
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W. D. Jones said he never saw Bonnie Parker with a firearm, but we are expected to believe Bonnie Vance threatened her daughter with one. Bullshit! Sounds more like the still guarding, shotgun toting grandmother of serial killer Henry Lee Lucas. Or Ma Kettle from the now forgotten but in its time incredibly popular series of films about a family of hillbillies. It gives on pause that ‘Vance’ has used multiple Christian names.
A lot of the ideas of improvement for backward groups were not and are not really cultural at all but biological of the Lamarkian variety when you look closely. As late as 1939 scientists like leading professor of Anthropology Ernest Hooton in his article Why The Jew Grows Stronger were suggesting that Jews would become just like WASPs if they were allowed to live as such (blacks too). He apparently thought they would physically transform as well. Ditto Blacks. The contempt was reserved for poverty prone Appalachians who had shown themselves as biologically degenerate by failing to converge a la Lamarkian improvement with the WASPs despite living as free whites in the US for hundreds of years.
Pretty slick RNC move to take a minus and preempt it as a plus before the media got hold of it. I speak of mama Vance and 10 years off drugs. That’s making a sow’s ear look like a silk purse.
Enjoyed your summary of the rise of J D Vance. Next please write your honest analysis of the rise of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Right, and there are many other lazy inconsistencies in the story. If there’s cultural shock at Yale, it’s walking around its Collegiate Gothic campus (formerly meant to evoke Yale’s connection with the timelessness of Western Civilization) and not seeing more than a few white male faces among the horde of Asians like his wife. On the other hand, if he successfully ran the gauntlet of anti-Americanism characterizing today’s Yale and came out ahead, it’s hard to understand his unprincipled support for the grotesquely immoral genocide in Gaza.
Excellent comment.
And ‘Being There’ was well done-a cut above the crass and vapid degeneracy usually served up by
Hollyweirdberg.
J.D Vance is the perfect pick for VP, because like Trump he has absolutely no principles.
Like Trump, he’s only interested in three things: money, power and fame/adulation. And like Trump, he’ll say or do anything to get those things.
Remember he was vehemently anti-Trump, until he wasn’t. And as others have pointed out, he’s literally on his third name.
Just another opportunistic grifter. But weirdly, Americans seem to like that combo.
A good contrast to Hillbilly Elegy is Thomas Massie’s (US Representative, Ky 4th) conversation with Tucker Carlson.
https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-thomas-massie
The Scotch-Irish and Black Americans have more than one thing in common… not just a particular way of speaking, which may have had its genesis in the Highlands of Scotland but also aversion to working and also proneness to fighting. The Scottish life as described by Sir Walter Scott in his innumerable tomes stands witness to what J D Vance is talking about. And both groups have failed to take advice from the venerable writer regarding how to improve their lives while living under the yoke of the English ruling class of America. Here he is in his book, Guy Mannering, Part I, Chapter XXI…
“The English are a wise people. While they praise themselves, and affect to undervalue all other nations, they leave us, luckily, trap-doors and back-doors open, by which we strangers, less favoured by nature, may arrive at a share of their advantages.”
Alas, not only the hillbillies but the slaves as well did not take advantage of that sage counsel and we see the results of half empty vessels even today… J D is an exception to that.
Crucial difference is the mullahs and the candidates they “vett and approve” are all working for and within the Iranian nation, rather than from within one nation but for the benefit of another, foreign entity.
Surprised you failed to notice that.
re SomeDude: Frum called JDV “morally flexible.” Perfect.
This book has been reviewed elsewhere on UR, imho far more perspicaciously than here. The author, David Martin, employs the subheading —
Which seems to me a fair summation.
He also comments, ref Vance’s obsequiousness to his Social Betters, a rather disgusting trait apparently approved by this present reviewer —
Link https://heresy.is/dcdave/hillbilly-agent/
I don’t have much else polite/helpful to say on this social conditioning piece. Not being American, my nearest to Appalachia was driving on the Blue Ridge Parkway from Asheville to Port Royal, then Washington DC. Being Irish, I found my approx 5 years in USA to have been better in Dixie than elsewhere due to social traits not eradicated by the USMC. Ref Vance’s being awestruck abt hearing Tony Blair speak …. can you be serious ? “the most hated man in British politics” … Also I’d say that this is a comment on the standards at Ohio/ US tertiary level “education” rather than Vance/whoever.
Well, “the powerful” have YOU under control, because you can’t even name them: The Jews. This is a pointless, ridiculous hagiography of JD Vance, who has no agency at all: he is a Jew Doormat. Why bother writing an article like this without talking about the 800 pound Jewrilla in the room?
What you should be writing about, F. (for Futile) Roger, is how Vance, as a posterboy for the military, was handpicked by Trump’s Jew handlers. What is his primary mission? This: to convince his poor hillbilly brethren to go die for the Jews. Or do you really believe Jew Doormat Vance’s warmongering against Iran — “punch them hard!” — has anything to do with his own sense of agency? Please spare us your baloney.
Trump-Vance is a one-two punch against the American people, who are now all pumped up by the faked and staged “assassination attempt” to go “fight, fight, fight!” for the Jews. That’s all this Jewish Deception scheme has been set up for: for more killing of goys. Whether it be whites, blacks, Arabs or Persians, the Jews don’t give a damn, as long as plenty of them die killing each other for the benefit of the Jews: “We are interested in … the killing out of the GOYIM,” says the Protocols.
So stop writing drivel, Futile Devilish. You’re not helping at all. The question you have to focus on is not a candidate’s hillbillyish background. What you have to ask is this: how the hell are the American people going to escape from its own puppet government, completely controlled by a cabal of satanic Jew terrorists?
Occupied not just by basement misanthropes, but probably leftist trolls as well. And perhaps by people who inhabit the all-too-few mental institutions in our country, with access to keyboards in lieu of sharp objects.
I picked the up the book at an airport. Wanted light reading or titillation sort of like Erskin Caldwell’s Tragic Ground or God’s Little Acre.
Disappointed no tobacco shed sexual frolics or moonshine. But inspiring tale. Maybe JD has the kind of unseen hand guiding him that was so skillful in steering Obama to being a living God. Choice suggests Trump convinced of Victory since JD will not attract any votes not already in for DJT. Remember President Dewey?
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Matt Brooks
Milwaukee, Wisconsin (putatively USA) Republican Convention
Tuesday July 16 2024
Jul 16, 2024 Why Is US Vice President Nominee JD Vances’s Wife Usha Vance Making Headlines?
Usha Chilukuri Vance, the wife of JD Vance, whom Donald Trump declared as his running mate in the upcoming US presidential elections on Monday, brings a wealth of credentials and a deep connection to Indian values and culture.
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The cost is your soul which you sign over to the demonic US government to do with what they will. As a high IQ white with no notable successes to my name I sometimes wonder how different things might have been for me had I simply subjected myself to a career in the military, but I’ve never actually regretted that I didn’t do it. I don’t know of any military men who weren’t permanently warped by their “service.” The war pigs, the hungry, grasping ghosts who enable and perpetuate armed conflicts worldwide can ALL get fucked up their willing assholes, from top brass down to the lowest of grunt peon enlistees.
While JD Vance had a rough childhood, he has been changed into a new world order, one world government advocate in the Skull and Bones elite secretive club at Yale, where he was groomed for his role in the subversive agenda of The Oder at the Skull and Bones, where future presidents and movers and shakers are groomed for their future roles in government and business.
JD Vance is also a member of the Bilderbergers one of the new world order, one world government organizations along with the Trilateral Commission and the WEF and the UN, subversive organizations, one an all. I recommend going to Rense.com and thetruthseeker.co.uk, they have a number of reports on JD Vance.
Explain to me why this bioluminescent swamp creature is not fully deserving of any and all ire directed toward him in this comment section. Does negativity hurt your feelings? Can’t handle too much reality impinging on your good vibes?
Read GLASS CASTLE and saw the movie, harder for a woman to avoid the pitfalls of early marriage—looking for acceptance—and acquire stability. She managed to save her brother and sisters also. Amazing story with an ending better than most.
So many pitfalls along the way, and those Marines kept his future open. Why don’t we as a nation requite 2 year community service along the lines of a military enlistment? You’ll find that JD VANCE is not exceptional; or is it because our society actually degrades future choices in preference to debt and missteps?
As phoney as a three-dollar bill.
I’m sure that USMC basic training did him some good, but what did he do in the marines? Worked as a journalist/progandist, not any kind of real marines job. Then he goes to some kind of community college, graduates near the top of the class.
This gets him into Yale law school. He meets a dot-Indian woman and marries her because he is so ugly out of formal Marines uniform that he imagines he can do no better.
Post-graduation, he perhaps does a little legal practice. I don’t know, that seems to be never covered in his bios.
Writes a book that largely dumps on his people and it becomes a best-seller.
Mysteriously becomes an expert on finance and so a hedge-fund manager for some time.
Gets elected to U.S. Senate and travels to Israel to wear a kippah and worship Jews at the remains of the outer wall of an ancient Roman fortress.
Can you put up an Unz.com link for that? I’m not seeing it in my search of this site.
F Roger Devlin offers a very sympathetic review of J D Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy. But there’s a dark side to J D Vance which Devlin misses entirely:
‘Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), the newly minted running mate of former President Donald Trump, is embracing a hawkish approach to American engagement in the Middle East.
‘Speaking with Fox News on Monday evening, the vice presidential hopeful laid out an aggressive path to countering Iran, arguing that Trump’s decision to assassinate Iranian General Qassem Soleimani in 2020 had “actually brought peace” to the region rather than instability, as critics had warned.
“If you’re going to punch the Iranians, you punch them hard,” Vance said in an interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity in Milwaukee, where the Republican National Convention began on Monday.
‘Vance, an Iraq War veteran, has long voiced skepticism of costly foreign entanglements in the Middle East. But Vance also explained that he has always regarded Israel as a unique exception to that assessment.
“I think there are things that we can do with Israel that we just can’t successfully do with other countries, and we should have a little bit of humility about that fact,” Vance told Jewish Insider three years ago. “I’ve always thought we should be more willing to help Israel. We should recognize that it’s sort of an island of shared values in a sea of really despotic regimes, and that’s important.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/vance-iran-going-punch-iranians-172052073.html
*puke*
This hillbilly is bought like a ten-dollah crack ho. Like every other Congress Clown, he had to get down on his knees and perform sloppy fellatio on his Jew donors to advance to where he is.
He can kiss my ass.
“Perhaps what places like Middletown need even more than the reopening of the factories is a few Marine sergeants.”
What with the newly appointed transgender Marine Sergeants? I don’t think soooo…
I hadn’t known that about Vance being a propaganda specialist in the Marines. Thanks.
Can you say more or tell us where we can read more about what he specifically did and where? (Also to @Exalted Cyclops.)
It is difficult for me to believe that Trump made this choice for his VP without first getting the green light from Mariam Adelson, since she intends to “donate” $100 million dollars to his 2024 campaign.
Which would be another “art of the deal” for the beloved con artist who was a NYC Democrat for most of his life. He already made it clear that he is Israel First in the last term. It was Trump that signed US recognition of Golan and with ZERO concessions. Did he even get a free hotel stay? I doubt it.
And, if White men are gullible enough to be snookered by this devious maneuver, millions of young White men would rush down to the nearest recruiter’s office and eagerly join the military?
I think the gullible White men are in DC and poor rural Whites end up in wars out of limited options. I doubt the White men that fought in Iraq would have voted for a “war first” policy before exploring other options. But that is true for most wars.
These “America First” MAGA Republicans drag their feet on Ukraine aid while lining up to provide billions to Israel that was not even requested. This is total insanity and these same Republicans call themselves “fiscally responsible” even though most of the Ukraine aid isn’t direct like the checks to Israel. Most of the Ukraine aid has been in the form of decommissioned equipment that was sitting in warehouses. Even the ATACMS inventory was scheduled to be replaced.
Vance falls squarely into that group. He openly stated that he doesn’t care about Ukraine. He will however sign any check for Israel that Johnson hands him. How does this make any sense? MAGA Republicans don’t to have to explain as no one has the balls to ask them. Both CNN and Fox will never ask that question. As a reminder Israel has a budget surplus from cheap Russian oil. They don’t have to pass sanctions on the excuse that most of the Middle East sources won’t sell it to them. So they get to play both sides while our House Republicans would print another 10 billion for them.
While JD Vance had a rough childhood, he has been changed into a new world order, one world government advocate in the Skull and Bones elite secretive club at Yale, where he was groomed for his role in the subversive agenda of The Oder at the Skull and Bones, where future presidents and movers and shakers are groomed for their future roles in government and business.
I don’t even need to know his history.
I can look at his face when he is next to someone like Graham. He is completely impressionable and is thrilled to be in the swamp club. Just look at the picture of him in the latest Daily Show episode. Like some first timer in Vegas who takes a limo from the airport. OH GOSH WOW THIS IS SO NEAT. He would happily bury a prostitute for them if asked.
Vance originally said that he won’t vote for Trump and that he could be America’s next Hitler.
He supposedly didn’t vote for Hillary but he was obviously more concerned with Trump.
Now he is a dedicated Trump fan and has deleted some of his tweets.
Anyone that makes a huge 180 like that in office should not be trusted. He’s a tool.
Crime statistics are easily available online.Violent crime rates per year per 1,000 residents:
“Bloody Breathitt” County Kentucky : 10
City of Chicago Illinois: 37
To Nice White people the experience of violence is so rare that any at all is shocking. My little city of Whitopia Beach has a violent crime rate of less than 2, and I can tell you from the police blotter that most of them are committed by “visitors”, so to a typical yard-sign White Liberal places like Breathitt County look like Fallujah.
“I’ve always thought we should be more willing to help Israel. We should recognize that it’s sort of an island of shared values in a sea of really despotic regimes, and that’s important.”
Someone please ask Vance how a Jewish nation has more shared values than Orthodox Ukraine. The Ukrainians don’t reject your Messiah as a fraud.
Or better yet ask why we have to share our military hardware and they don’t have to pay for it.
I fully support Vance and his Israel First policy. I think he would make a great politician in Israel. Please move and show us how much you love 95 degree heat, a lack of pork, churches and professional sports.
Yes. These comments are evidence of precisely the passivity and lack of agency the Bolsheviks have introduced into the male culture of our nation. No one can see the good in another person. This Vance is someone who recognized all the character flaws in the people he loved, but never stopped loving them.
There was something profound in Vance’s speech to the RNC last night. It was his insistence that the USA is not just an “idea”, but that it’s a real “nation”, a place. It’s a place where a core of our population grew up, worked, found love and family, and will die. It’s what we can love, despite its many character flaws, because it’s our nation.
Heartening, to judge by (most) comments, that the implant by ((tptb)) of a “shapeshifting yes-man” into the higher echelons of USG may not be as popular or problem-free as they had planned. Similar for ZionDon, their other appointee.
Even mention of de-coupling from neo-cohenism … interesting.
In memory of innocent fun Appalachia (pt 1/full series)
” … kinfolks said, Jed, move away from there …”
Video Link
Apologies CMC, it was a comment on Ron Unz’s review of the recent Trump event.
Ron Unz replied to ask permission to publish it.
Here’s the comment link.
https://www.unz.com/runz/the-attempted-assassination-of-donald-trump/#comment-6666024
Here’s the review.
https://heresy.is/dcdave/hillbilly-agent/
There are many here among us who are unable to accept a reality as simple as the rags to riches story of a Kentucky Hillbilly without resorting to conspiracy BS that ties him to deep state operatives or some other mysterious uplift by (((tribal enablers))).
How many among us have experienced a similar upbringing, not necessarily as hillbillies from Appalachia, but from big city concrete jungles, where poor whites are forced to live in black housing projects and attend majority black schools that inspire no confidence in any future prosperity or success?
How many of you experienced being a target from k-12 for black/hispanic gang beatings, rape, robbery and threats on your life, or the killing of a family member and living to tell about in a rags to riches story is somehow nurtured by deep state mentorship?
Most of you never experienced what a white Appalachian hillbilly or white raised in a black hood experienced and would most likely never acquire basic survival instincts and be here today to write about it.
Thanks for this beautifully written review, it hit home in more ways than I had remembered.
That’s not a bad comparison, apart from the fact that Obama was never poor a day in his life. As even the mild-mannered Steve Sailer noted: He was the preppy from paradise instead of the half-starved waif form the depths of the ‘hood. Both are larger-than-life creations of the great lie-machine – aka The Mighty Wurlitzer. I really became aware of its amazing power in Illnoize’s notorious ‘Model-T’ senate race of 2004, featuring the Mocha Messiah vs. the more African-looking Allen Keyes. Look at the county map results here.
The ten counties Keyes won were some of the whitest in the state then – all in the downstate (the state has ruled from the cesspit of Chicago for many years) which basically has no representation now in the state government. Model-T refers to Henry Ford’s famous choice of color for his popular vehicle: You can have any color you like as long as it’s black. Keyes’ only support was from the very folks denounced by Obama as rayciss hicks bitterly clinging to God and their guns. All the blacks voted for the mulatto.
So Mr. New Yuck is running with a synthetic Jethro Bodine. This clown-show just writes its own script. Cue the memes of Xi calling Putin and Rocket Man for a good chuckle: ‘Hey you see this one, bro?’
Interesting to see this author David Martin was already calling out Vance as a CIA faggot years ago. I only just realized it today, but it makes perfect sense. Good to see he called out the blatant political and military propaganda behind this book, too.
Yeah, but give me a reason why they should like these people.
I don’t know if you are a “hisponics” speaking person as opposed to an ebonics speaker or just have a penchant for “big cigars” dangling from your mouth and donning stylish French berets, but as I read your vapid comments and attempt to write an equally flippant response to it while travelling on a “Q” train subway, I see a bunch of Puerto Ricans (a light skinned loudmouth, his brown skinned immitation and his hefty real dark skinned woman with their two extremely unruly and foul speaking young children) and I said to myself this is what the fruit cake Guava wants for the future of the country… dumb and stupid people to populate the land with their kippah welding masters to go to war at a moment’s notice… “does” you remember the blind Colonel (Al Pacino) up to his Hollywood trick encouraging the Puerto Ricans to become fodder for the industrial and military complexes by suggesting in passing that they make the best infantry men?… what did the great sage Forrest Gump observed? Stupid is stupid does!
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PS Doug MacGregor retweeted
“12m puts on July 12,” linking Austin group to Bush family https://twitter.com/legislationpage/status/1813728208547709270
comments to the retweet include Blackrock and Vanguard in the pool of Profiteers on the assassination-that-wasn’t of DJT
Yes. These comments are evidence of precisely the passivity and lack of agency the Bolsheviks have introduced into the male culture of our nation. No one can see the good in another person. This Vance is someone who recognized all the character flaws in the people he loved, but never stopped loving them.
I would like nothing more for the men in this country develop some agency and tell these Israel First politicians in red hats to go f-ck themselves. Specifically White men in office who shrug at poor Whites in the streets while they print money for a foreign country,
There was something profound in Vance’s speech to the RNC last night. It was his insistence that the USA is not just an “idea”, but that it’s a real “nation”, a place.
It’s very much a real nation that Vance puts second.
The people founded this nation would be horrified that so many White men keep supporting politicians that put a foreign nation before their own.
They founding fathers didn’t support writing checks to the King of Britain and they would not have supported writing checks to a middle income country in the Middle East that privately snickers at Fox bot talk of “Judo-Chrishanity”.
It’s what we can love, despite its many character flaws, because it’s our nation.
I do love this country which is why we really need a Polk, Jefferson or Eisenhower and not a JD Vance or Trump. The last thing we need is another race confused Fox watching Magabot. BEEP BLOOP SEND ISRAEL MONEY? OK TRUMP IF YOU SAY SO.
Vance-and-Hindus is like Bush-and-Mexicans…
except Hindus got more money and verbal power.
I agree with you and I believe that Vance is under CIA MK-ULTRA mind control, the program that the Nazis brought over in Operation Paper Clip at the end of WWII, he seems like he is under mind control by the CIA. I believe this happened once he was taken into the Skull and Bones at Yale, he is bad news for America.
AMIERICAN DREAM? Jethro Clampett? Ellie May’s chimp? Miss Hathaway? 79 years in the US just hasn’t done it for me. Maybe some OTHER country?
It’s hillbilly portnoy.
That’s a real photo I assume? Reason Jews abd Muslims don’t wear ties with suits is that the long vertical line reminds them of the Christian cross. Israel math text books don’t use the plus sign + because it’s a cross.
It’s ridiculous that the Men of Unz claim Jews aren’t White. The ultra orthodox are whiter than Scandinavians. Look at that pasty white flabby Jew. And that hat!! Poland 1700 when Jews ruled and treated all Poles but the king and upper aristocrats worse than they treat the Palestinians today.
For more than 100 years elections have been Jews and negroes versus the White goys. This one is shaping up to be Jews and Whites versus negroes and Muslims.
Family turmoil, troubled youth, middling student, becomes a corporal, selected as a political influencer, writes a best-selling manifesto, then a stellar political career follows. Am I the only guy who sees parallels to those John Mearsheimer calls “congenital aggressors”? Gee whiz, I hope I’m not clairvoyant!
Thank you.
Oh please not that mass murderers Eisenhower. He was a creep from the word go.
Really? According to this graph, the fertility rate of WV, Virginia, and Pennsylvania are similar to that of Nevada, Arizona, and Midwestern states.
“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_fertility_rate#/media/File:Total_Fertility_Rate_by_U.S._state.svg”
Yes, Kentucky is a bit better. Rather like the internal states. But Kentucky is far less Appalachian than WV. WV is a completely Appalachian state. Kentucky is mostly……an internal (Old West) agricultural state. And it breeds like one – who could have guessed?
This is good. I agree. However, if you acknowledge the reality that life outcomes are at least 50% non-genetic, you seriously need to stop making your entire social critique be about genetic-determinism. Because, the purpose *and* the effect of genetic-determinism is to encourage individuals and policymakers to “throw their hands up” about humans with problems, and to say, “well they are that way bc their genes made them that way. There is nothing we can do about it.”
If you want to alter the culture and argue for cultural progress, that’s great. I’m with you. But you will shoot yourself in the foot if you constantly give space to people who want to chalk-up problems to genes. Those people are trying to avoid making cultural progress. Instead, they want to forget about the problems, ignore the suffering people, and go on with their own (maybe nice, maybe not-so-nice) lives, carelessly towards the suffering of other humans.
Yes, and also intelligent liberal academics have a level of fatalism, too. Which, of course, is a link in the arguments for greater economic support for the poor.
The reason that highly intelligent people, and even psychologists, see things like this is that it is the truth.
JD Vance is an exceptional hillbilly, we are told, who proves that this is not the truth.
He is so exceptional that he is not really a hillbilly. He grew up, after all, in Ohio, guys!!!! He grew up around sturdy Midwestern commoners, living a middle-class (though not exactly stable) lifestyle. He was not surrounded by the dysfunctional serfs of Appalachia. And, all of the research for the entire history of social science has shown that the non-familial environmental factors are extremely important – often more than the familial factors! Don’t you think that his friends groups, and the kids and teachers that would become his role models in primary school, would have furnished good examples, that would have had a great influence in his escape from his situation?
Now, even despite his innate confidence, his good sturdy Ohio primary schooling, his (perhaps) genetic gifts, etc., his military affirmative-action boost in university admissions (yes, even Ivy-league colleges give affirmative action to ex-military), his entire career was politics-adjacent. What does this mean? He did not really make it in the best jobs. We will never know, if he also just didn’t cut it. My guess is that, if he was scared about the wine and cutlery, he did not cut it.
I’m aware that many readers would assume that JD Vance’s success is the pinnacle of society. I forgive this – if you are not around elites, you naturally might assume that the president of the USA is the top-dog. But it is not true, and Devlin actually hints at this in the article – that the Yale Law students were blase about Tony Blair’s kids at Yale. This is partially because they have learned to keep a cool head around important people (it’s essential to have that attitude if you want to be highly successful), but it is also because the elite do not respect political leaders nearly as much as business tycoons. At top colleges, there is indeed a great deal of buzz generated when major company founders such as the late Steve Jobs come to speak.
The best jobs would be the high-powered law firms of NYC, which Vance’s classmates at Yale would mostly have joined. JD Vance might have failed in those interviews, due to having less coolness, sharpness, or polish. He ended up working in politics out of Law School, and from there, to a law firm in Chicago (which is significantly lower-tier), and from there, he worked shortly for Peter Thiel. Even the venture capital firm that he worked for with Peter Thiel is a firm run by a highly-politically-connected right-wing neo-nationalist man who works extensively with the government (as does Elon Musk) to secure funding for his businesses/investments. In other words, JD Vance got his foot in the door with Thiel probably by being a connected, right-wing political guy.
Right-wing politics has an elite network, after all – a network built around helping the super-rich. I personally just call it “political cronyism” for lack of a proper term. It seems to me that JD Vance succeeded in that crony-network, but probably would not cut it in the general society’s highly competitive economy, whether that be law, finance, or definitely engineering/science. His careers have been careers where making a “good impression” on other right-wingers is 99% of the struggle. Being an appalachian boy might actually assist with that. This is far different than a career where you have to solve problems, do it in concert with other colleagues, build and maintain good relationships, build a reputation of high-competency, build respect, etc. That is far harder.
Even his success within this crony-sphere might not be particularly influential. In other words, not real success. After all of JD Vance’s politicking and his careers, what will he have to show for it? Probably not much. I mean, he is famous and might be doing some things in Washington, but the fact is that right-wing politicians are not able to greatly shift the direction of change in our Western Culture. They only slow the flow of change….for a few years, while they have the White House under control. In the meantime, our culture is more LGBT than ever, and we just welcomed over 3 million immigrants in 2023, and are projected to welcome 4 million immigrants in 2024. In other words, the Democrat agenda is going to win (except on certain economic issues like universal health care where big-money pharma/insurance companies are able to buy-out and brainwash the idiot Republican congress). And JD Vance will not change any of that. He will just be yelling about how wrong a few little things are, such as some response to some toxic spill in East Palestine Ohio……he will be yelling like any other little, inconsequential man, about these little injustices, but he will do it in Washington, with just a tiny bit of extra success. And, none of this will be greatly influential.
In conclusion, JD Vance did not even transcend his faux hillbilly roots very much. He never reached the level of the elite-bred section of society. He only ever succeeded in the realm of (right-wing) politics and law, which is a world that does not require as much intelligence, creativity, hard work, problem-solving, or innovation, as high-level management, science/engineering, etc.
I’ve attended conferences at my own company, which is one of the USA’s top-5 largest financial companies, where corporate heads talk about their humble small-town roots. I’ve met many fairly successful people, even Managing Directors, from small towns. However, one thing that they all seem to have in common, is that their families were not particularly ingrained in the small town. Another thing – their small towns are usually in states like NY….not West Virginia…never West Virginia. Their parents moved to these small towns often from NYC, often were college professors, doctors, or something like that, and they made sure that they took their kids on many vacations to great cities (and international global cities) and such places as this to ensure that their kids would be comfortable with different places and with high society. Every single highly-successful person I’ve met from a small town had worldly parents.
I’ve never met a highly-successful person in my career who genuinely came from some kind of redneck or ghetto family. Not a single one. Neither from a hardcore-Christian family. Never. There are no highly successful people in society from these backgrounds. Sure, there are people who get a decent career, such as myself. I’ve met one guy working in high-finance who even was from WV.
But to get to the 500k per year range in a high-IQ, high-social status career? Doesn’t ever happen. Christians/Rednecks/Hoodrats can make big money in lucky local business monopolies, and a chosen few can be rich entertainers. But for the really hard, thinking-intensive, jobs, there is too great a leap. Too much learning must be done in your 20’s, which is an age range where humans are already lacking in the enthusiasm and hope of youth – for biochemical reasons – that helps so much with learning and self-reinvention.
JD Vance is not Michael Bloomberg, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, etc. He is not even a Managing Director at an institution in NYC high-finance or a Principal Engineer/Architect, upper-manager at a FAANG company.
He is, instead, a right-wing political crony, whose success is built alongside that small portion of society that utilizes right-wing political cronyism.
I hope that the general society can learn how truly important it is for children to be bred in a favorable environment. JD Vance is telling people that they can succeed from West Virginia if they just have a good work ethic and can-do attitude, and he is claiming that he is an example. But he is not even a particularly great example.
There millions upon millions of rednecks and hillbillies, with many thousands of them having sufficient genetic gifts for high success, and there are almost no great examples.
Agreed. Why I used a 10$ word to describe his review.
I knew nothing about Vance apart from his wish to bomb Iran, learned just after his nomination, and David Martin’s sketch was enormously helpful.
I find it problematic to adequately express my contempt for Vance, and similar “shapeshifting yes-men”. His disgraceful attacks on his own people give a clue if needed as to his future treatment of Americans, especially Whites, especially poor Whites.
Vance seems to be a disgusting weasel.
Nor is he alone in American politics.
Nor even in writers of reviews, as Devlin’s piece shows.
Not familiar with him, I’ll admit, but the tidbits I’ve read about him in the past few days gives me the impression of a Nikki Haley with a dick.
Although I (40+ yrs older than him) actually saw the meltdown of manufacturing in the US (and it’s subsequent conversion to a “clerk” economy) he’s too young to even have the remotest real time grasp of how that ended the livelihood of the vast majority of “middle class” people in the rust belt. You had to be there. It wasn’t just hillbillies. So, I think his idea of returning manufacturing to the US (making things – not just making a living by billing, boxing, and shipping) probably has more to do with Raytheon than it has to do with Chrysler, General Electric, or Westinghouse – just to name a few. And we know what that’s all about.
Donnie has (semi-mysterious) ties to the Levant (OK, he’s a businessman and an entertainer, I get it). Apparently, Vance is his appointed COO (or whatever you call it). Just remember – clerks are renters for life – always were. And, keep in mind, since women’s lib, housing (for 40+ years, now) is priced for 2 income families. However, with weaponized women and the fact that the pricing originated when those 2 people weren’t yet all clerks, the pieces fall into place. I lived it, I saw it.
I say he’s military intelligence, not CIA. Low class enough to be aw shucks around that tiger wind bag Amy Chua who sex trafficked him to a dot Indian infiltrator of the US for India and Asia. Boy was so slow-witted, this global south bimbo on her blind ambition tour manipulated him into marriage. Meanwhile, Vance (or whatever his name) functions as an interface for scary dot Indians and arrogant Asian squatties to seem more friendly towards white Americans than they actually are. The long-term project seems to be getting Ramaswampy in the oval office as VP or even president. This is an attempt at a takeover with “Vance” serving as a hillbilly Pocahontas. The darlin’ bride and her family will have been lavished with money for her sacrifice. This is how it works.
nice. “i wanna go to space”. that was a good movie and showed that part of country positively. i enjoyed my east coast trips, but really loved the brief drive through west virginia. so beautiful, so forgotten, yet so far from the DC capitol filled with supposed elite fellow Americans that supposedly care.
yes. this vance character has issues and sold himself to The Other his whole life after the Marine pen job. why he would punish the rest of the white population because of his own situation is telling.
we will never go to Jupiter because this country stifles real talent and installs fraud dreamers who want to rule over 3rd world slaves while watching faggots twerk on fox news. there is a film of shit, a web of lies, that surrounds and stifles. it darkens things. like vance’s eyes.
i too, have a big beef with this guy
BY THE LORD GOD ETERNAL, I’LL SMITE THE NEXT MAN WHO SAYS THE INCORRECT ‘SCOTS-IRISH’ INSTEAD OF THE CORRECT AND PROPER ‘SCOTCH-IRISH’
The Scotch-Irish people are innocent little lambs of a most sweet and benevolent nature!
The only thing that riles up the Scotch-Irish people is when some frigging dope nitpicker says you should call them ‘Scots’ instead of SCOTCH.
SCOTCH-IRISH
We be no Eerish, we’re Scoatch!
Ephraim Givens is of my blood and Givens is Scotch-Irish with or without the Mc.
THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION UNDERCLASS IS ON THE MARCH!
The Sons of the American Revolution Underclass has got its marching orders from the high command and they are ready to grab the electronics of the American Empire and dislodge the ruling class of the American Empire from power. They’ll eat chili and beef stew cold from a can with a plastic spoon and they’ll swill some cheap beer and they’ll be ready to go! They Are Sure To Be Ready!
Remember, the money-grubbers after the American Revolution or the American Colonial Secessionary War from the English Empire started up with their fancy and nasty money-grubbing Mammonite games almost immediately upon the ratification of the US Constitution. Alexander Hamilton and his type of money-grubber bankers and financial swindlers got word that the paper money paid out to soldiers in the American Secessionary War from the English Empire would be paid for in whole instead of at a much lesser amount and they bought up as much as they could at a discount from soldiers and others holding the paper currency.
Hamilton and money-grubbing skanks screwed over guys who got shot at by lobsterbacks and smelt the gunpowder from pepper shot or grape shot or maybe grape nuts and bolts — hard to say really. These American Revolutionary War soldiers thought there was no chance to get their proper pay portion loot in full and they sold those sonofabitches on the cheap and the damn swindling bankers and scam artists knew damn well they would be redeemed in full by the new United States government.
If you are a bit Scotch-Irish like I am by way of Givens you should also know that Hamilton screwed over the Scotch-Irish in Pennsylvania by taxing whiskey as a test case to prove that the new government could tax the hinterlands and make it stick.
Now the Sons of the American Revolution Underclass is hopping mad about nation-killing mass legal immigration, nation-wrecking mass illegal immigration, imperial misadventures, open borders free trade and trade policy treason, anti-White viciousness emanating from the corporate propaganda apparatus, monetary policy extremism and monetary policy swindles run by those crooked crooks who control the corrupt and crooked privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.
I have made myself the leader of the Sons of the American Revolution Underclass and I say we attack at dawn like a full force gale — LEGALLY and RHETORICALLY attack folks, don’t get too excited.
Did you know that Prince of Wales, William Windsor, married an ordinary English girl Kate Middleton because he didn’t want to marry a continental white trash which passes for royalty?
JD Vance is a pseudo-populist, billionaire-controlled rat whore politician?
I don’t care, as long as he keeps hammering on the IMMIGRATION ISSUE and as long as JD Vance avoids the comfy confines of donor-approved, insipid Republican Party rhetoric on the immigration issue and as long as JD Vance continues to connect mass immigration to high housing costs, low wages, cultural balkanization and environmental degradation and a lot more bad things.
Mass legal immigration, mass illegal immigration, REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION increases income inequality, lowers wages, increases housing costs, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, increases poverty, harms the environment, increases urban and suburban sprawl and destroys cultural cohesion.
Okay, I admit it. Trump and Vance are politicians who need to win. In order to win in the USA, in these times, they have to say they support Israel.
There are lots of ways to govern, though, that checks the Israel box, but doesn’t violate the “America First” principles. I believe that a Trump administration will figure that out. Balancing the budget would be the easiest route.
You try to make it that Trump is the first presidential candidate to score all the rhetorical points the Jews want him to make.
If you’re a Democrat, you ought to make that clear, so that the reader can balance Republican ass-kissing with the Democrat ass-kissing.
The same guy who said this married a pajeet and considers her “American.” With her, he spawned half-pajeet children that he also considers “American.” His actions reveal that he does not even believe it himself. He believes America is an idea and that pajeets can become American if they just believe these ideas hard enough.
Sam Huntington Questions About The United States of America:
WHO ARE WE AS A NATION?
WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR AS A NATION?
The formation of foreign policy starts with the true comprehension of the historical ancestral national identity of the USA and that is why treasonous dirtbag filth like 81 year old Joe Biden and Barack Obama and George W Bush and Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris and the Neo-Conservatives and the US Chamber of Commerce and the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire are always vague and hazy and abstract about their conception of the national identity of the USA and the ancestral origins of the USA.
It’s too bad Samuel Huntington, the author of the book — Who Are We? The Challenges To America’s National Identity — is no longer among the living. Huntington wrote that the United States is a British Protestant settler nation-state. Huntington would have provided some nice pushback to the notion that America has no fixed founding ancestral stock.
Immigration politics in the United States is one of the most prominent vulnerabilities of the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire and the Neo-Conservative faction in the Republican Party. This is one reason why Neo-Conservative Republican Party whore politicians such as Lindsey Graham push the “America is just an idea” line of crud.
This “America is just an idea” propaganda then allows the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire and the Neo-Conservatives the chance to keep the military objectives of the American Empire extremely vague with no set goals or strategic interests stated clearly. The US military is not fighting for anything real or tangible, but for some hazy notions of “freedom and democracy.”
I would say that America is a European Christian nation-state.
The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire insists that the USA is a multicultural proposition economic zone region.
Meet Usha (probably) the future first lady of USA!
It seems to me that a healthy society needs two things: first, that individuals take responsibility for their own fate, and second, that the ruling elites don’t deliberately crush the working class into the mud. Surely it takes both?
Suppose someone needs to walk somewhere. Maybe they are tired, maybe it’s cold, maybe other more fortunate people have a shorter and easier route – suck it up and just walk there! On the other hand: if you cut someone’s legs off with a chainsaw, and then blame their inability to walk on a lack of moral fiber, that’s disgusting.
In India there are about a billion people living worse than the average person in late Medieval England (yes really). They have no resources, no tools, no options, no hope. Sure, one in a hundred thousand will get lucky and somehow scam their way into wealth, but it is physically impossible for everyone to do that – just as it’s impossible for the entire population of an inner city to became rich by becoming professional basketball players no matter how much moral fiber they have. And when Indian billionaires say the the answer is for people to start working 60-70 hours a week, that’s disgusting.
Yes self reliance is essential. But so is opportunity, and government/elite policy. At some level of impoverishment – send all the manufacturing to China, send all the money to the big banks and Ukraine, let health care and education load people with unpayable debts, use immigration to force the population up and drive wages down and rents up through the roof, etc.etc., and sooner or later all but the most lucky or aggressive people will fail.
At least, Kate need not throw herself at any whiteman– unlike that hindu woman shown in Priss’ post did!!! 😀
And what royalty does this hindu woman find in a man of many fathers?!!!
You can go and vote for Trump.
It’s a shame that Ron Unz has decided to rebury Jim Goad’s polar-opposite take on J. D. Vance’s book. I grant that it is neither unreasonable nor surprising that many readers feel more comfy with Devlin’s reading of the book and the man. Yet given that Vance, an Israel-Firster and proud to be one, is being rammed down the body politic’s throat despite being a certifiable sellout of the legacy white Christian remnant of the population into which he was born and has for some time been eager to betray, now seems exactly the wrong time to quash a perspective that compensates for a shortage of politeness with extra helpings of insight and forthrightness.
That senior “politicians” are now debating how far (if at all) the United States actually exists as a valid Nation may give an idea how far the rot has progressed.
This is not just some kind of theoretical debate, but will probably have outcomes on the street ref issues like Secession, Civil War (?? racial), Status as an Israeli Golem, increased possibility of US$ collapse/true rates inflation, unemployment etc.
The latest Simplicius gives a roundup for any interested, for example —
Over 400 comments; this is one fwiw —
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/can-democrats-turn-crisis-into-opportunity
You are a dirty racist with a tiny dirty brain filled with Yehweh (Torah) violence. Islam is the great thing that happened to humanity.
“At least, Kate need not throw herself at any whiteman…”
No indeed! We’ll leave that for the best looking Chinese women and the second best will go for the rich Indians, the third best for Blacks for the extra leg they drag around but the dregs of the barrel, for the tiny Chinese, their own fellow countrymen.
Okay, I admit it. Trump and Vance are politicians who need to win. In order to win in the USA, in these times, they have to say they support Israel.
They don’t merely state that they support Israel.
Trump signed over Golan and the capital on his own. America is in the stronger position and we have already given them billions of dollars. That is not a balanced position in the least.
Vance is part of the Israel First GOP wing that wants to give them more aid than they requested.
Johnson was demanding billions in aid after October 4th. Why? Israel can handle Hamas on their own. They have modern tanks while Hamas has old school RPGs. Iran didn’t even given them proper anti-tank weapons. It’s not a fair fight or even close. I don’t support what happened on October 4th but that doesn’t mean we need to write Israel a check.
These people are insane.
There are lots of ways to govern, though, that checks the Israel box, but doesn’t violate the “America First” principles. I believe that a Trump administration will figure that out.
Oh just stop already. Trump already handed Johnson the Ukraine aid bill that contained billions for Israel. They want to give billions to Israel. That is not America First. Israel is not a poor country. Trump or any president can be an ally without writing them checks.
You try to make it that Trump is the first presidential candidate to score all the rhetorical points the Jews want him to make.
It’s not rhetoric. Trump was already president and he signed over Golan with nothing in return. I am judging him based on his history. Trump also dumped the policy of supporting a two state solution:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-trump-s-two-state-solution-rollback-means/ar-AA1is2gS
So he abandoned a long standing policy of previous Democrat and Republican presidents.
If you’re a Democrat, you ought to make that clear, so that the reader can balance Republican ass-kissing with the Democrat ass-kissing.
I voted for Trump in 2016 and I have made that clear numerous times. Stop assuming that any critic of Trump must be a Democrat. Most voters want new candidates. I have never supported Biden and I didn’t think he was medically qualified in the last election.
Don’t talk to me as if Trump hasn’t been given a chance. He isn’t the new guy.
Americans want different candidates for president: Poll
https://www.axios.com/2023/11/06/trump-biden-presidential-candidates-unfavorable-poll
I don’t care if you support Trump over Biden. I understand that position but I will call it like it is. I think JD Vance would be a great politician. He just needs to be honest and run for office in Israel.
I’ve never been to WV but I did feel as if Vance was overdoing it. I’m glad to hear that your personal experience in WV was quite different and mostly positive. And yes, ‘October Sky’ was a truly uplifting and special motion picture! (Not surprisingly, it was ignored at the Academy Awards that year.) Another outstanding (and ignored) film set and shot in America’s forgotten heartland (Kentucky) is ‘American Animals’. It’s an excellent and suspenseful crime drama, based entirely on fact. Highly recommended.
Pat Buchanan said this in 1992, and the GOP and Limbaugh dismissed him as a ‘populist’.
Video Link
Thanks for the link to David Martin’s review. Those who haven’t read it need to. Seriously, only reading is believing the stuff Vance has written. And, wait a minute. The book, as Vance says, was
proofreadcertified kosher by David Frum and other Zionist Jews who hate Vance’s people’s guts? What?I think it’s also a function of simple bigotry. A lot of people will congratulate themselves on how politically correct their sentiments are concerning — say — blacks, but are openly biased against Asians, or Muslims, or white trash, or whoever. Those sentiments are entirely reasonable, and aren’t bigotry at all. It doesn’t even occur to them that they could be considered to be such.
Put it this way. 20% of people are consciously bigoted and admit it — at least to themselves. Another 60% are bigoted as well — they just never noticed. I have literally heard someone deplore racism against blacks — then within five minutes comment that when it comes to Chinese, you can’t tell them apart.
Indeed. That would be a critical distinction. The Mullahs presumably want a happy and prosperous Iran — just one that conforms to their principles. Jews are pretty clearly indifferent or worse to our happiness and prosperity.
Firstly, Mr. Vance wasn’t an infantry marine clearing rooms in Fallujah – he was a military journalist.
Secondly, I don’t believe his story about working two jobs during university. I’ve heard that the GWOT GI Bill was amazing with full tuition covered and a generous allowance for living costs – it was like being paid to be a full-time student? If so, it’s no wonder he graduated in two years with excellent grades!
Thirdly, his Wikipedia page states that he attended Yale Law School on an “almost full ride” scholarship – was this the GI Bill? Would the GI Bill cover an undergraduate degree and a law degree? Can any GWOT veterans answer this please?
Finally, lots of GWOT veterans attended elite universities (on the GI Bill) after their service ended. Two examples are Adam Driver (the famous actor) and Jason Everman (the man who was in Nirvana and Soundgarden). Mr. Driver attended Julliard and Mr. Everman attended Columbia University (General Stanley McChrystal wrote his recommendation letter
Butt-Tucker endorses Trump
I know lots of people (me included) who were in the mitary and not as you describe…sounds more like how movies by Lefties pimp it….Many losers (alcoholics and drug addicts) are just losers and then if they had military service they blame it on that….
Absolutely correct!
Exactly. Americans are such trashy self absorbed rubes, that they love anyone and anything that is entirely fake but puts on a good enough act to allow people to allow themselves to be fooled.
Being contractually obligated to get your anthrax and all other vaxx’s is reason #1 to NEVER be a ZOGbot military Derp.
“The Scotch-Irish and Black Americans have more than one thing in common… not just a particular way of speaking, which may have had its genesis in the Highlands of Scotland but also aversion to working and also proneness to fighting.”
What are you blathering about? There are many regional dialects in a country the size of the US and the Scotch Irish are spread far and wide so won’t all share the same dialect or even culture. As far as fighting, that’s a hunter gatherer trait and not liking to work will vary somewhat. The Scotch Irish around here never stop working. They like it and like to brag about how hard they work. That being said, penalties for fight have gotten so onerous, nobody much goes fisticuffs around here anymore, not even in high school. Vance is just a white thug. Probably changes his name to hide an arrest record or maybe owes someone money.
“Secondly, I don’t believe his story about working two jobs during university.”
And finishing in two years. I agree. I had two part-time jobs for a while in college but one was work study for just a few hours while the other was easy data entry for about the same amount of time. I don’t remember the total hours but never took more than 5 classes a semester. The real stretch is the unqualified less than two years to graduate. Hmmm. Most of us test out of some courses. Then there’s the trend to get dual credit in high school. Also, is it possible Vance went to community college during the four years in the Marines? Mini courses during Christmas break are a thing where I used to live. The reason I don’t buy the two years story is mostly because of prerequisites and electives. The second major is not difficult, however, just a few more classes tacked on to the 5 classes for a minor. Imo, Vance seems highly prone to exaggeration and lies of omission.
It wasn’t ‘mostly positive’, it was altogether positive. There is a ‘Logan County remembered’ group on Facebook, and everyone who lived there has good memories of the place. I lived in a small town near Logan. I went to school with mostly coal miners kids, there were a few characters, ‘Copperhead’, and ‘Bulldog’ in the east end, but there were never any problems of any sort. I even played in a mixed, black/white band that played in clubs in the area. It was a great place to grow up, and a good school. Here’s a pic of my town taken in the 50’s I think ..
Clownshow retardation
Hey, USMC bashers, let me remind you that it is not your father’s USMC anymore !
MARINE CORPS’ FIRST FEMALE SILENT DRILL PLATOON COMMANDER
https://www.marines.mil/News/News-Display/Article/3219894/marine-corps-first-female-silent-drill-platoon-commander/
“SDP is often times the face of the Marine Corps, showing the world how elite and professional our organization is, and being selected to lead them is truly an honor.”
Capt. Kelsey M. Hastings, Silent Drill Platoon
Elaborating further on that deep thought we may tentatively conclude that Captain Kelsey is The Face of SDP and, ipso facto, The Ultimate Face of the USMC
USMC Toxic Masculinity is long gone.
Also, looking closely at the pudgy face and vacant stare of Captain Kelsey, trained MDs will immediately recall an evergreen book “The Mentally Retarded Child” CHAPTER 2 – THE CLINICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF MENTALLY RETARDED CHILDREN—CHILD-OLIGOPHRENICS
Non-MDs will be reminded of Walmart Cart Pushers.
Recent events seem scripted.
Trump/Vance to repeal 2A?
They’ll need a lotta cops to do that and Joe Biden just let 9 million walk across the border.
It’s really not “buried.” If you check the left hand column of the Home page, you’ll see that the two contrasting reviews are now within a few places of each other, even though we’d featured the Goad review years ago and the Devlin review just yesterday.
Thank you, Ron. In my defense, however, I can honestly say that immediately before pressing Publish Comment, I ran a Ctrl-F search for “Goad” on my own home comment page and got a count of zero. I did not think to run the search on the site’s home page. Mea culpa. I shan’t make the same mistake twice.
Why don’t you tell us how much you hate Jews? Real easy to type crap that you do, do you know any Jews? Bet you even hate yourself and want to blame everyone else for your “so called bad luck” SO, instead of going “If those _______ did not ruin things for me, why not go out and try working hard?
Hulk Hogan is going to give a speech and all the hillbilly Bible thumpers will shout and be slain–in the spirit.
Feel free to have the pick of your “best, 2nd best,… looking” Vance mothers.
Chinese men are popular with White women, but not those who weigh 130 kg. Instead they get cute ones from East European countries. Chinese men have the advantage of having clean left-hands.
BTW, Bharat is now not only a “great power” but a jobless great power too.
Palki Sharma’s Bharat surpasses China yet AGAIN!!! 😀
Most welcome.
I found it useful and I’m not American.
If we have to support Israel in order to close the border, end the war against Russia and neutralize the Bolsheviks in the bureaucracy, then I’ll accept Israel. God will take care of the Jews for their refusal to accept the Messiah. He always has.
I have not read Vance’s book, but based on the reviews/excerpts I did read, I think he’s projecting his personal family dysfunction onto his “root” community. Kentucky/West Virginia/Appalachia is stunningly beautiful, and one can meander through “hill-billy” country in a way that can’t be done in many areas of Chicago, Houston, LA, Memphis, etc. I have come across a few hill-billies in ranch country and New Orleans fishing guide industry; Vance is running from his humble beginnings.
I am reminded of Thomas Sowell, a black “conservative,” who once proclaimed that sub-Saharan Africa did not develop like the rest of the world due to non-navigable ports (I guess someone forgot to inform the Dutch) and that southern blacks derived their culture from the “backwards” Irish settlers who were the bumpkins of America. That Sowell is exceptional amongst his race is undeniable, yet he managed to defend his people ultimately.
Of course, around here (Texas), a hill-billy is someone who can fish, hunt and dress an animal, clear brush from a roadway and lay caliche, travels with a rifle or hand gun, chases illegals off ranch property, mows his own damn grass, etc., graduate degree or successful business/practice notwithstanding. If you can get around without a GPS or a map in unfamiliar country, you’re near savage.
The selection of Mr. Vance is indeed a disappointment. So, we will have a mass deportation policy from an administration with a second in-command with an immigrant wife? I’m sure she or her family came the “right way.”
No real White woman wants a slanty eyed kid… a baby goat in the yard maybe but not in her own crib.
Slanty eyes? Goats? What? Who?
It is the hindoos:
https://en.luxuretv.com/search/videos/indian-girls-sex-animal/favorited/
https://dirtydoglinks.com/699968249-Indian-woman-has-dog-sex-She-have-bindi-and-hairy-pussy.html
If you have a beastly religion, beastly acts become normalities!
Let’s look at some facts of today. Nobody in America can keep a job or get a job, openly disparaging Jews in his workplace or publicly stating negatives. This applies more to public sector jobs. To criticize Vance for any Jewish affiliation is to apply the same to every member of Congress and every political or government service or employee.
For those sanctomonious virtue signalers on here and everywhere, try speaking out, buttonholing your co-workers on how evil and mealevant Jews are. “Name the Jew”. And you will not only be fired, but perhaps make the informal blacklists or be on the public media as a “Jew Hating Holocaust Denier”.
People more complex in their makeup and moral substance than the great majority of hypocrites and peasants-in-the-streets found here in the comment section.
I am sure I have done more actual background search on Vance, left, right, and middle than anyone on her. Charlie Kirk loves the guy. Ramaswamy and he are best friends. Other respectable and sober people who know him personally speak of his character, honesty, and humanity. I’ve listened to his speeches and interviews. His wife seems to be very high quality woman of exceptional virtue.
The Jews have been bilking, lying, stealing from the West for well over 2,000 years. Christians could have stopped them, removed them, inoculated their people against them, made common knowledge of their true character a requisite of basic education and cultural firmament.
None of that happened to affect their march to domination. The Jews did not so much to TAKE from the West, but enlisted, cajoled, and persuaded the Christian Gentile Bovine Dumb Oxen to hand over power and wealth to them, which they were glad to do. Legions of them before and now.
Does anybody out there know what “destructive testing is?” This is a test regimen that determines the breaking point of machinery or physical devices. Stress, Strain, and Breaking points. That’s what Jews believe. Testing the strength, efficacy, reliance, resilience of Christianity and all the pillars of the West. Just like a certification of quality and safety. Weak insulation:
There are two historic parallels in history:
1). Jews versus Gentiles. We are smart, they are stupid.
2). Germans versus Russians. We are smart, they are stupid.
There were, broadly speaking, two goals Hitler had in mind when invading the Soviet Union:
Autarky. Hitler’s grand plan was for a self-sufficient Greater Germany. This meant that all its food, mineral, and fuel needs would be met without the reliance on outside parties. Hitler was keenly aware of Germany’s precarious resource situation: Germany was overpopulated relative to its carrying capacity, and relied on food imports, especially from Eastern Europe. During WWI Germany had been starved out by naval blockade, highlighting this vulnerability. Furthermore, Germany relied completely on Romania for oil; besides Germany’s small synthetic fuel industry, almost all Germany’s warmaking capacity came from oil fields that were well within Soviet reach. To this end, invading the Soviet Union could totally fulfill Germany’s demands: with ample farmland, rich mineral resources, and oil in the Cacausus, Germany would be strategically secure. The Slavic peoples inhabting Eastern Europe would be largely murdered, with a small pool of illiterate slaves permitted to survive to work for German colonists.
Defeating Judeo-Bolshevism. Hitler believed, like many other Europeans, that communism was a Jewish ideology, and that the Soviet state was a Jewish one. Hitler hated Jews; he believed them to be responsible for Germany’s defeat in WWI, and believed they were attempting to overthrow German society like they had done to Russia in the October Revolution. Thus, defeating the Soviet Union was a critical goal for maintaining the security of the German state. To this end, Hitler stressed to his generals that the war would be a war of extermination. All Communist party members and officials were to be shot on sight. Male Jews, as natural partisans, were likewise to be immediately murdered. Soviet POWs were not to be fed, but instead starved to death by the millions. Soldiers of the Wehrmacht were given free reign to rape, loot, and kill without consequences, in order to tear down the Judeo-Bolshevik society at the roots.
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Remember that Hitler was not making decisions alone. It was largely his generals who devised and ordered military operations, and who were responsible for making some ludicrously optimistic decisions. Yes, there was an element of “being on a roll” and feeling invincible. Hitler wasn’t a genius, but he did have a certain determination and had made some extraordinarily lucky decisions. Furthermore, the Soviets had performed miserably against the Finns in the Winter War; it was not without cause to be optimistic. And finally, there were pervasive stereotypes and prejudices against Slavs within German society: they were thought to be undisciplined, stupid, beasts incapable of intelligent or coherent military action.
Jews won, Gentiles lost. Russians won, Germans lost. Today, Jewish influence or deference in Russia is nothing. Russia is a culture, a civilization with a soul.
1) The United States military ENCOURAGE their personnel to take college courses (University of Maryland etc.). Sailors on aircraft carriers can take university courses. Vance was an ‘in the rear with the gear’ military journalist who would have had lots of free time to take college courses.
2) Lots of universities give credit for technical and on-the-job training i.e. his military journalist course and any other courses he took while he was in the Marine Corps. So even if he took no college courses during his service (highly unlikely) then he would still more than likely have received some college credits for his military training.
3) I met a (highly motivated) man who served with the United States Air Force and he completed a four year degree during his four year enlistment. He told me that it was tough, but doable (he lived like a Mormon). Vance could have easily completed a 2 year Associates degree during his service (hence the two years to complete his bachelors?).
4) The GI Bill that Vance benefited from was so generous (free tuition and a living allowance) that Senator John McCain wanted to cut these benefits as so many soldiers / sailors/ airmen etc. were leaving the service after their first enlistment – they were leaving to become professional students and this was impacting on military manpower and readiness.
5) Yale University had nothing to lose by admitting him if the US government were picking up the tab for his tuition (the GI Bill). Also, it would bolster their social justice credentials as military veterans would be an “underrepresented group” at Yale (or any of the elite universities).
Also note: Muzzies are not our friends either.
There is a rumor out there that the Big Man Xi is dead from a new Chinese virus… can you confirm it?
of illegals?
This is true, but it’s another thing altogether to sing kumbaya on stage with the Dracula Jews at an event for yet another Jewish organization that promotes the idea that in White nations, people who aren’t White shouldn’t be punished for crimes. I wonder how many shtetl families take in recently released parolees? I wonder how many Afghan refugees were settled in Israel?
So, PooBear, when did you crack? Immediately after that near miss in the schooner you were commanding which suffered tremendously whilst you diddled and/or swilled when you should have been navigating?
From whom did you swipe this diatribe? The BolshevikPretzel?
Remember that Hitler named the Jew. Remember that Stalin was a murderous, criminal savage, who used the savagery of the Bolshevik Jews to stir up a hornet’s nest in Russia/Eastern Europe, then sought to purge himself and Russia of those very same Jews after he failed to avoid the preemptive wrath of Germany and had to be bailed out by the treacherous governments of America and England, and afterwards had nothing left to spend/sacrifice/slaughter as the best of the Eastern Europeans had also been purged for being too smart or were worked to death in a Gulag.
Remember what happened to Hitler/Germany for taking on the Judaized western world. So, Russia is what it is today because Stalin purged his Jews? Is that what you’re claiming?
TLDR; JD Vance sold his soul to the globalist establishment to get rich and famous.
You described rednecks. Being a hillbilly requires living in the hills which Texas doesn’t have.
JD Vance did an excellent job smearing his fellow hillbillies but not a peep in his book about fellow marines at Parris Island being hazed/raped to the point of killing themselves.
He certainly knew what was happening and might have even participated.
No surprise that a weasel like Captain ClotShot Trump picked a neoconservative warmonger like Vance for his VP
Yes. Who else could we hope to deport?
First on the list should be those South African Boers, who have been belly-aching about getting whacked with machetes and clubs whilst they have been menacing everyone in Africa with fruit, vegetables and beef from their farms; they’ve been scurrying over our borders by the thousands….why would anyone want people like that in America!
Oh, wait…..
There is an entire region in Texas called The Texas Hill Country. It’s quite beautiful, as well, but lacks the grandeur and impoverishment of Appalachia.
So, Rednecks are Hill-Billy Lite? Fair enough.
Thank you dear Tiptoes.
It is a grievous sadness to me that a beautiful and well endowed huge country such as USA should be consistently ruined by her own citizens. This seems to have almost been a permanent feature since Independence. It is now critical.
Vance is an example. So is Trump. Of very very many past and present.
It seems that shape-shifting man of straw Vance has a director, ie his wife. If rumours are true then she is his MI6 handler.
Sadly, this if true is quite congruent with American history.
Almost you could say normal.
Kindest Wishes.
Not even tangentially related. Your usual non-sequitur.
Same unrelated tripe and diversion. Are you stupid or what? Developmentally, you exhibit the mind of a child.
Didn’t/don’t the Jews have non-Jewish European allies against non-Jewish Europeans?
What? What about – non-germane?
The degree to which Vance slobbers over Jewry/Israel compared to everyone else in American politics is germane.
“Are you stupid or what?” = Remember that Hitler was not making decisions alone…. he did have a certain determination and had made some extraordinarily lucky decisions. Furthermore, the Soviets had performed miserably against the Finns in the Winter War; it was not without cause to be optimistic. And finally, there were pervasive stereotypes and prejudices against Slavs within German society: they were thought to be undisciplined, stupid, beasts incapable of intelligent or coherent military action.
Did the Soviets lose the Winter War? Exactly how well did they actually handle the Mannerheim Line? The League of Nations deemed the Soviet attack illegal, yet neither England nor France rallied around the Finns as they did the Poles. Nor was war declared against Russia for their dirty deed against Poland, or anyone else for that matter. Why the double standard, PooBear?
Luck had absolutely nothing to do with Germany’s prosperity under NS policies.
The Poles were smacked down in a few weeks on their home turf. Did you know that Poles put Jews and Germans in a concentration camp as early as 1934? It was called Bereza-Kartuska. So, some nations could inter their Jews and some could not? I wonder why the Jews didn’t whine about the Polish camp in Poland? Did Samuel Untermyer declare war against Poland? Why the double standard, PooBear?
Yes, I do regress a bit when corresponding with you.
Now she took my heart, she took my keys
From in my old blue dungarees
And I’ll never go to Texas anymore
Yes. The Martians came and morphed themselves in human form and helped the Jews. In fact, they are still doing that. The Jews themselves are descendants of Pluto.
Someone did die:
Did he die of an unknown Chinese flu?
He was born with a fatal hindoo genetic defect that caused his death!!! 😀
Perhaps his family had been eating the rancid Chinese “cuisine!”
Hm. I note that
control f oxycontin
control f valium
control f MS contin
yields not one hit in the above piece. There are references to “drugs,” but does “Vance” mention Purdue Pharma’s OxyContin operation/plague in his book? Or any of the Pharma products aggressively targeted at/marketed to his people as lucrative numbing agents for the anguish inflicted on them by body- and mind-breaking labor, then “deindustrialization,” unemployment, and abandonment?
He was born in 1985, yes? Purdue Pharma had been aggressively marketing/selling MS Contin, a very similar drug to Oxy, in Appalachia since the mid-’80s. That patent sunset in 1984 led to Purdue seeking a new blockbuster “pain” drug. OxyContin was the result.
Purdue Pharma ramrodded OxyContin into Appalachia around 1995 with the proven advertising and sales methods that Dr. Mike Magee did such a good job of laying out in his series (“Man Made Opioid Epidemic”).
However the groundwork had been laid a decade-plus before that.
Two years before “Vance” was born, 1983, Arthur Sackler created the American Association of Pain Medicine. That was also two years before the lucrative patent on Valium was set to expire.
Art Sackler was inducted into the Medical Advertising Hall of Fame–yes, there is such a thing–in 1997 for being the first merchant to sell $100m of a pharmaceutical–the brain scrambling benzodiazepine drug sold as Valium. A few years ago I did a little digging into when that milestone was set, and the value in later dollars of each year’s revenues from 1963 on, and came up with something approaching $3/4 billion.
Art Sackler’s daughter Elizabeth–who bought herself a named wing at the Brooklyn Museum–was very quick to distance herself from her siblings on the Oxy thing. She was quoted many times in the media saying she had never had ANYTHING to do with Oxy. Nobody in the media highlighted the fact that she got HER many millions from Valium. How about from MS Contin? I have to look that one up–if it hasn’t all been memoryholed.
Either way, 2021 the NIH NIDA reported that nearly 14% of overdose deaths involving opioids also involved benzodiazepines. One wonders how many “alcohol” and “automobile accident” deaths and injuries have that connection.
And God alone knows how many “adverse childhood experiences” result from benzo use. I can say that the single most hair-trigger-violent and personality disordered person I ever had to work with was someone who was messing with his Klonopin dose after many years on the drug. (He knew it was screwing him up, he tried to get off it by tapering himself, then he’d get worse and start up again, etc.)
Ah, but it’s better to blame those Hillbillies for being “Scotch Irish.” Once again, whiteness is to blame.
The AMA brought the AAPM under its umbrella as part of Sackler’s larger Method of creating quasi-medical entities to create pseudoscience articles to be disseminated as Pharma advertising, with the goal of bringing physicians onboard as pushers. Just as had happened previously with Valium and MS Contin. One of the goals in developing Oxy was to make an opioid so cheap that even people without health plans/coverage could afford it. More cheap = more units have to be sold for XY profits.
By the time JD was coming of age and witnessing the shredding of social and familial fabric in the ’90s, Oxycontin clinics were widespread throughout Appalachia just as the region had previously swarmed with MS Contin prescribing doctors and the Pharma salesmen they worked with for profit.
Appalachian people were targeted specifically with “pain clinics.” This is well known. This is documented.
https://nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/opioids-and-appalachia
If “Vance” doesn’t mention all this in the book, then he is being disingenuous…or something worse.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2024/07/investigative-reports/the-man-behind-trumps-vp-pick-its-worse-than-you-think/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248977/
https://www.100daysinappalachia.com/2019/08/a-slow-motion-emergency-opioid-distribution-pattern-doesnt-surprise-author/
Are Martians Europeans?
I didn’t know that curry was also a Chinese invention, but no Chinese ever made such a claim!
Maybe, genetic defects could pass via the use of one’s left-hand? 😀
Maybe, genetic defects could pass on via the use of one’s left-hand? 😀
You certainly are a genetic defect, nay, all of China is a malignancy. Hopefully, the hapless Tibet hasn’t been infected before it’s rescued from the clutches of the filthy dragon.
You’re so full of shit. Extreme statements with no hint of collaboration, support, consensus, sourcing.
“If I had a guess,….” That sums up your prairie buffalo jello. Drivel with mange and crusty hide.
PooBear – “Furthermore, the Soviets had performed miserably against the Finns in the Winter War…”
Britannica – In February 1940, however, the Soviets used massive artillery bombardments to breach the Mannerheim Line (the Finns’ southern defensive barrier stretching across the Karelian Isthmus), after which they streamed northward across the isthmus to the Finnish city of Viipuri (Vyborg). Unable to secure help from Britain and France, the exhausted Finns made peace (the Treaty of Moscow) on Soviet terms on March 12, 1940, agreeing to the cession of western Karelia and to the construction of a Soviet naval base on the Hanko Peninsula.
PooBear – “it was not without cause to be optimistic.”
Adolf Hitler – Mannerheim Recording – […] You can not wage war in winter…We had to help Italy….
Molotov makes demands with clear intent to rule Europe.
PooBear – “they were thought to be undisciplined, stupid, beasts incapable of intelligent or coherent military action.”
What The World Rejected: Hitler’s Peace Offers 1933-1940, Dr. Friedrich Stieve, page 21 – Then a decision was made in Warsaw to mobilize at once against Germany, and the Poles began with violent attacks, not only on the Germans in Poland, who for sometime had been the victims of frightful massacres, but on Germans in German territory.
But even when Britain and France had already declared war, as they intended, and Germany had overcome the Polish danger in the east by a glorious campaign without a parallel, even then Adolf Hitler raised his voice once more in the name of peace.
Adolf Hitler – […] They see very clearly how the improvements of our people is taking place. For our struggle is not directed at all against the Englishman as a man, or against the Frenchman. We have nothing against them. For years, I have made my foreign policy objectives clear. I did not ask too much of them… when they entered the war, they could not say – we are entering because the Germans demanded it! But on the contrary, we are entering because the German system does not suit us because we fear that the system will also take hold of our peoples! … I regretted that peoples had to fight against each other whom I wanted so much to unite, who in my eyes could only have done good together. [I’m not sure where/when, but I listened to an audio recording; I think it was after 1940-1941; you’ll have to take my word for it.]
Regarding Vance, we have nothing really but opinions/conjecture to offer at this point as his true intentions and actions as second-in-command remain to be seen. Personally, I’m highly suspicious of nearly everyone in politics since 1945. Or, at least of those who remain unkilled.
Can you hear me, can you hear me
Through the dark night, far away
I am dying, forever crying
To be with you, who can say
[…]
We are sailing stormy waters
To be near you, to be free
The filthiest dragon in the world:
https://www.planetcustodian.com/over-50-scary-images-depicting-filth-of-varanasi-and-river-ganges-that-went-viral-in-china/8134/
I look at your posts and see some Israeli propagandist posing as black-pilled, and clearly as phony as a three-dollar bill. Any with a working brain can see it.
“Any with a working brain can see it.”
A couple of questions: Are you a working brain Che Chihuahua? And, are you reading too much into the posts for things there aren’t there?
China was dirtier than that before the American dollars started pouring in and still is in many a place, including the markets from where all of those wonderful Chinese diseases are originating… one only needs to go to the local Chinatown see the clean lot that you are.
The wonderful thing is that Hindia was a lot cleaner before “Bharat Rising”! Hope Bharat will keep “rising”. 😀
I interpret your posts without doubt as ‘la, la, la’, smart arse Zionist,
Down boy, down… don’t get all worked up over nothing, my little Che!
I an more concerned with cleanliness in the local Chinatown than dirty China and India.
Clean-up time
https://www.livemint.com/companies/people/musk-fires-almost-all-of-twitter-s-india-staff-11667565493470.html
😀
No wonder the Chinese are never accused of an original thought, Thot!
You’re rehashing the old news purely out of jealousy because the “Chinese-Americans” are not in the limelight (poor Andrew Young whom I liked, didn’t get anywhere), whereas, the new news is that either our future president will be a part Indian woman or the wife of our future vice president is one too.
But if it’s any consolation to overweening Chinese pride, your government Chow Chow and Unz pet, Andrew Anglin, has written a column today bashing Indians, Hinduism and Hindus (the doofus doesn’t know the difference between the Khalistanis and the Pakistanis)… teach him, O son of Confusion!
Wiggling into a top job in a top company created by some white guy and then got kicked out of it is proof of originality?!!!
Chinese DON’T have that kind of talent. We build Huawei’s in our own country instead. 😀
Different cultures, different ways of judging achievements.
“We build Huawei’s in our own country instead.”
Now who’s kidding whom? Everything material to the development of Huawei products has its origins in the White men… mere improvement, though important as they are, is no sign of genius. I would not brag about it, if I were you… but then again you ain’t no chinaman not for nothing!
Ah… “White men” again! A bharat can never break out of his sepoy mentality!
The scientific and technological contributions by White men are truly phenomenal. I cannot, and do not, deny it. But then Newton once said, “If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” That include the shoulders of the Indians too.
Given below is my discussion with one such white man, JustBeGood, a couple of decades ago on The Economist forum:
When will you learn that you’re an inferior race thus unqualified to stand beside your superiors and unfit to rule the world? Don’t think the world doesn’t see through Chinese shenanigans because they do and almost all don’t trust it.
Your white master saw through your shenanigans, “Indians are a beastly people with a beastly religion.”
A beastly people with a beastly religion will survive the ravages of conquerors and time but an inferior yet delicate people shall perish. Ron Unz will miss you, old boy!
Pray tell, what is the grotesque creature? Is it the Deity of the swines? Does it promise seventy-two bits of bacon to every follower in the hog heaven? Has it created all its faithful in its own bizarre image? Does it permit or proscribe sexually deviant practices to its followers that it, itself wallows in? Has it mandated a pilgrimage to Tibet, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia and Uyghuristan for its creatures? Answers please…
What a grotesque character!:
Isn’t that what the Christian God did?!