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Amalric de Droevig’s “The Way Forward: A New Christianity, Partition, and a General Operational Plan” is not the first time that advocates of white interests launch attacks on Christianity. The writers for The Counter Currents and The National Vanguard — to name just two of them — are doing the same. Detractors of Christianity among the ranks of white activists seem not to notice that they are playing into the hands of those — yes, Marxist, leftist, and liberal circles — which hold Christianity in low regard and would like to see it gone or transformed into something Christian in all but name.

When Christianity was at its best and its strongest in Europe, it kept the Jews down, the Muslims out, and the Whites in, to paraphrase the familiar phrase about NATO. It is only when Christianity became weaker and weaker that it stopped performing its role. Until that time Christians — Christian knights and monarchs along with Christian priests and theologians — were never squeamish about waging wars and forcefully converting others or driving other faiths out. They did all those things with their motives rooted in the Scripture! Think of Charlemagne (mentioned in Amalric de Droevig’s text), think of the Crusaders, think of the Teutonic Knights, think of Jeanne d’Arc, think of the Gott mit uns legend on the belt buckles of the German soldiers during the two world wars, think of… — you name it.

Jeanne d’Arc incited the French Christians to fight the English Christians; the (German) Teutonic Knights waged wars against the Christian Polish state, and while the former resorted for spiritual help to Jesus Christ, the latter did the same invoking the Mother of God; the Czech Hussites reciprocated cruelty upon cruelty in their fight against the German Catholics; German Protestant Christians of the 16th and 17th century relished in butchering German Catholic Christians and vice versa; the list is long, and I am only recalling these facts to show that in none of the historical events did it ever occur to Christians to turn the other cheek and to show meekness. Rather, they readily burnt opponents at the stake or dispatched them in thousands with little or no remorse.

This turn-the-other-cheek attitude has been cleverly induced into the minds of theologically and psychologically feeble Christians by the Saul-Alinsky type of Christianity’s opponents. Remember one of his precepts from The Rules for Radicals? If an organization that is opposed to us states that it will answer each and every letter, heap it with thousands of letters! They will neither be capable of processing them, nor — if they try to do so — will they be able to continue their activity. The same has been done with Christianity, and theologically and psychologically feeble Christians. Christians constantly heard this, “Turn the other cheek! Turn the other cheek! Turn the other cheek!,” and you know what? Christians have swallowed it lock, stock, and barrel! The Saul-Alinsky type of opponent of Christianity acted just like the devil tempting Christ, and quoting Scripture. But wait! What did the Saviour do? He paid the devil back in the same coin: quotation against quotation. So easy, and yet … so hard for present-day Christians.

In a thousand-or-so-pages-thick Scripture you can find quotes for anything you please. The Teutonic Knights, mentioned above, would reference all their military actions to the Bible, justifying conquests and the use of specific kinds of weaponry. Try reading Peter von Dusburg’s Chronicon Terrae Prussiae: page after page after page there are long passages justifying war and the use of swords, spears, shields, bows etc., all rooted meticulously in the Bible. Again, did Jeanne d’Arc talk about turning the other cheek? By no means. Instead, she insisted she had been commanded by God — the Christian God! — to militarily drive out the English from France. Somehow — as far as I know — even though she was later tried, no one advanced the argument that she had violated the precepts of Christianity while advocating war, and — mind you! — there were theologians and priests among her accusers. Why didn’t even they roll out such a crushing argument? It somehow did not occur to them.

So once again, alluding to the paraphrase of the strong Christian creed keeping the Jews down, the Muslims out, and the Whites in: why did Muslims not relocate to Europe at the time when Christianity was Christian apart from the military invasion of Spain? Well, they would not have been accepted and certainly they would not have been able to mingle in Christian societies. They would not have been allowed to build mosques, and so on. Were marriages between Christians and Muslims thinkable at that time? God forbid! Not merely because they were formally forbidden, but because it would not have occurred to a deeply believing Christian to commit such a sacrilege. It gets even more interesting at this point. Christians who cared about their faith at that time could hardly imagine marriages across Christian sects. The readers will be familiar with the strongly anti-Catholic sentiment in the United Kingdom; they may not know, though, that Russian tsars and grand dukes of the 18th and 19th century very frequently married German princesses. The point is that none of these princesses was Catholic — though Germany and its the ruling houses were split in this respect among Catholics and Protestants — and before those women became imperial or ducal spouses, they needed to convert to Orthodoxy. Catholics, you see, would have refused to convert (which by the way exposes what a debilitating effect Protestantism had on the White man’s world). One of the Polish kings would have been accepted as the Russian tsar (at the beginning of the 17th century) if only he had converted to Orthodox Christianity. He didn’t. Zero tolerance. Zero understanding or acceptance of the other, even the other Christian. Creed can be a strong vaccine against aliens, a strong immunological system. A non-Christian Rishi Sunak as a head of a Christian state was unthinkable at that time!

Speaking of Russia, the readers will have known about the Pale of Settlement for Jews; perhaps they do not know that there were certain military decorations that could not be granted to Russian Muslim subjects of Russia’s central Asian provinces. Why am I mentioning all this? To show that the problem lies not in the Christian faith, but in the feebleness of the mind and general effeminacy on the part of Christians, and also in the clever doings of its enemies who exploit selected biblical passages and foist their interpretation on the churches that are foolish enough to accommodate them.

Turn the other cheek… Why not, Crescite et multiplicamini (Be fruitful and multiply)? Why not, “I have not brought peace but war?” Why not go and convert all the peoples? Why not, “Who has not believed is already condemned?” Why not the Old Testament’s (the part of Scripture that Protestants are so enamored of), “Stone him to death! Stone him to death!” for almost everything?

I hope you see the point. Feeble-minded, effeminate Christians have been presented with an anti-Christian interpretation of their own belief by anti-Christians and you know what? Christians swallowed it whole with gratitude!

Amalric de Droevig points to ancient Romans and Greeks having prosperous and flourishing societies that operated without Christianity, but they have disappeared. Where’s the advantage? They grew weak without Christianity (though some put the blame on Christians, which is by no means convincing). Why? Because they stopped believing in what they had believed earlier. Take another example: communism. It crashed in the USSR, but has not in China. Yes, I know, China is sort of capitalist, but still the communist party holds the reigns of power and Marxism-cum-Maosim is the national “creed.” The Soviets gradually stopped believing — BELIEVING — in their “religion,” so they ended up enslaved by their enemies who had been programming the Russian minds for decades that McDonald’s and blue jeans — to put it symbolically — are worth giving up Yuri Gagarin or the Motherland Calls (Родина-мать зовёт).

Consider that also the Soviet Union tried hard to eradicate Christianity in the hope of creating a powerful society and it all came to nothing. Rather, Christian revival is being promoted nowadays in Russia, with President Vladimir Putin calling on Russians to crescite et multiplicamini et replete terram (Russicam) or, to quote the original: “Large families must become the norm, a way of life for all Russia’s peoples,” and “Yes, the Church is separate from the state [but] I would like to note in this context that the Church cannot be separated from society or from people.”

Indeed, it cannot. The West is dying because it has given up on its faith. In an effort to do away with Christianity, which is allegedly guilty of the West’s decline, some try to replace it with Christianity under a new guise. I’m thinking for instance of the National Vanguard and its symbol, which is one of the runes that is just a warped Christian cross. I wonder why of all the runes they selected this one. Their website too is full of anti-Christian sentiment, as if Christianity were to blame for the collapse of the Western world. What they level their guns at are Christians in name only, readers of the Bible and followers of Christian gurus. To a cradle Catholic like myself, such Christianity is weird, to say the least. True, today the Roman Catholic Church increasingly resembles Protestant denominations, but that’s precisely what I am trying to draw the reader’s attention to: the Church has been infiltrated and taken over. The latest papal encyclicals are about ecology and immigration rather than morality and salvation. Is it still Christianity?

In Poland, generally thought of as a Catholic country (along with Italy, Spain, Austria and Ireland, maybe less so France) young people — also among intellectuals — have begun to follow the example of their Western counterparts to ceremoniously make an act of apostasy, and to brag about it on social media. Do you think these are the people who would like to preserve the White race? They had parted with Christianity long before they made the act of apostasy and they are all progressivist, leftist, and globalist. They want us to abandon our faith.

My diagnosis of the problem? It is not the religion of the White man that is to be blame, but the religion’s perception and re-interpretation that have been foisted on Christians incapable of true theological reflection. The churches (and all other White institutions, such as universities) have been taken over and turned into their opposites by clever mindsuckers. Rather than going along the wishes of the mindsuckers, i.e., destroying the remnants of what we, as Whites, still possess, we would do better to reclaim those institutions, and become (again) proud and defiant, and stand our ground. It is easy to roll out counterarguments. Turn the other cheek? Look, Christ did not turn the other cheek when he was slapped in the face during the trial. All people are good and deserving blessing? Quite the contrary is true: there are sons of perdition, individuals for whom it would be better not to have been born because — genetically? — they are incapable of doing good, and so on. You get the point. Do not let the Rules for Radicals operate against you.

Christianity has not become one hundred percent Christ and zero percent Charlemagne; rather, Charlemagne was one hundred percent Christian (“I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”), while the White Man’s World is on its last legs because it is becoming zero percent Christian. That’s what the historical record says, does it not?

Jacek Szela
/yah-tsek shel-lah/

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. A new Christianity? Well the one we have is not exactly doing the European based peoples well. Do I want to go back to Catholicism, days of yore, when everyone would fight any opposition at the drop of a hat? I don’t think so. Think of the first aggression principle. Screw turn the other cheek, but don’t initiate the aggression. Christianity is the most universal religion on earth (Islam is universal, but Christianity has it beat because Islam is a total way of life which regardless of its spread to non-Arab countries, has retained an Arab ethos) Christianity can be a way of life -if one is a strict “orthodox” Christian, but for most it is not. The universality of Christianity really got underway with colonial conquests (especially with the Spaniards and Portuguese in the Americas wanting to save native American souls) The French did the same, the English less so (because of their style of colonization-at least in North America) We have to bring all those black, yellow & brown people to JEEEEEEZUS. Later on in the colonial process (mainly British & French) saw Christianity as a step up. One could get an education through Christian schools, one could better familiarize oneself with the colonial structure to get something of a position (learning English or French). Although whites kept themselves largely apart from the natives in those days, the stage was being set psychologically -through Christian univeralism, if the chess piece were moved about a bit – the non-Europeans would be seen as equals. It took a while. Now add on the “other” universalist ideology -Marxism. No further explanation.

  2. Turn the other cheek… Why not, Crescite et multiplicamini (Be fruitful and multiply)? Why not…

    Turn the other cheek was only intended to be interpreted as a direction for the individual. If someone walks up to you and starts hitting you, then feel free not to defend yourself. But if someone starts hitting a defenseless person, a child for instance, then you are morally obliged to come to that person’s defense, because someone can choosenot to defend him or herself, but we cannot make this decision for someone else. Extreme pacifism is an immoral position.

    They grew weak without Christianity. Why? Because they stopped believing in what they had believed earlier…

    Religious faith fosters a sense of national identity, which is why Greeks remained distinct under the Ottoman Turks and Jewish diaspora did not assimilate. Nationalism can also fill this role. However, the concept of the White race is not sufficient to unify the people, because it includes too much variation among potential adherents. Few people are going to be willing to fight and die for Whiteness.

    Towards the end of the article, the author associates Polish and White people, as well as White people and Christians. This seems too optimistic, and he would be better served by focusing on Polish and/or Catholic.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  3. In reality, the white race never understood Christianity, it inherited it from the Roman Empire and with immense ignorance it used it for its economic expansion, thinking only of the pockets of the most privileged to enrich them even more.

    And beginning with the Indigenous Genocide, with the sword and the cross, they prostituted Christianity and everything that came after has been an anti-Christian farce of veneration of wealth as the only God.

    And from what it seems they plan to continue killing and stealing as much as they can.

  4. After the crash and the Greater Depression the Christians and MAGA will be there to pick up the pieces. They have survival skills.

    Opposition to Christianity is a Bolshevik thing. If you are opposed to Christianity you are with the Bolsheviks even if you are two stupid to know it.

    Also. If you are opposed to Christianity and you make your case from scripture you are hopeless. You should just STFU.

    • Disagree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @follyofwar
  5. Muscular Christianity is back! The ghost of Teddy Roosevelt is pleased.

    Christianity was the best that men could devise within the limitations of ignorance, magical thinking, and superstition of the ancient cultures that spawned it. Today, we object to it because we see the Christian system of belief and morality as simply capricious. It fails to comprehend the true expansiveness of our human nature, and is simply wrong in its understanding of the natural world and its workings.

    • Disagree: Dragoslav
    • Replies: @Dule
  6. Dule says:

    “why did Muslims not relocate to Europe at the time when Christianity was Christian apart from the military invasion of Spain?”

    The author apparently has not heard about the tragic conquest and utter distruction of the Roman empire (a.k.a. Bizantium) and the Chrisrian kingdoms of Serbia and Bulgaria by the muslim Turks in the 15th century. While Turks did not fully relocate to the Balkan peninsula, they successfully converted to islam a sizeable fraction of its population that ruled their Christian relatives with utmost brutality. Some 400 years later these wretched nations were freed of their occupiers, either by their own heroic struggle (Serbs) or by the military actions of the Russians (Bulgaria) and the British (Greece). Lamentably, the liberation was not complete because the Austro-Hungarians and the British sided with Turkey in their fight against ortodox Christianity and some historically Christian parts of the Balkans and Asia Minor remained under muslim rule.

    • Agree: Dragoslav
    • Replies: @Dragoslav
  7. Dule says:

    “why did Muslims not relocate to Europe at the time when Christianity was Christian apart from the military invasion of Spain?”

    The author apparently has not heard about the tragic conquest and utter distruction of the Roman empire (a.k.a. Bizantium) and the Chrisrian kingdoms of Serbia and Bulgaria by the muslim Turks in the 15th century. While Turks did not fully relocate to the Balkan peninsula, they successfully converted to islam a sizeable fraction of its population that ruled their Christian relatives with utmost brutality. Some 400 years later these wretched nations were freed of their occupiers, either by their own heroic struggle (Serbs) or by the military actions of the Russians (Bulgaria) and the British (Greece). Lamentably, the liberation was not complete because the Austro-Hungarians and the British sided with Turkey in their fight against ortodox Christianity and some historically Christian areas of the Balkans and Asia Minor remained under muslim rule.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
  8. Dule says:
    @Observator

    Just read the novels by Fyodor Dostoevski, they explain most of the questions you have raised here.

  9. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Suetonious

    However, the concept of the White race is not sufficient to unify the people,

    The concept of White was concocted by spiritual Jews specifically to bleach out the differences between individual Christian races. No Anglos, no Saxons, no Basques, no Scots, no Dutch, no Tuscaners, nor is there male but only female, all one under Constitution and Legislature. (There is black tho, but it’s also a mystery-meat blend, saying Bantu and Pygmies and Cushitics are all alike.)

    The merchant levelling instinct you were talking about earlier. Homogenize and simplify the market, specifically so that they might all buy your product.

    But if someone starts hitting a defenseless person, a child for instance, then you are morally obliged to come to that person’s defense, because someone can choose not to defend him or herself, but we cannot make this decision for someone else.

    Why isn’t it the parents’ responsibility, instead of mine?

  10. anonymous[138] • Disclaimer says:

    This article’s author has nostalgia for what in fact cannot be recovered, and an unfortunate conflation of warrior mentality (good) with pleasure in torment and barbarism.

    Even tho our fellow European-heritage people who still hold on to Christianity, need to be treated with respect – religion is a human need, after all – the rest of us still need to face that:
    – There is no ‘saving’ Christianity from the collapse of its legitimacy, in a world where most Christians are already non-European
    – Christianity always will work as intended by its Jewish creators, as a back-door for Jewish supremacist power-seeking

    If one truly READS the Jewish-authored Christian ‘scriptures’ one sees no end of barbaric horrors: Genital mutilation of baby children … the sadistic terror of ‘eternal hell’ … genocide of women and children, burning women alive, and all the rest. NOT the ‘word of God’ but demonic sadism.

    As Egypt’s Ashraf Ezzat has written, the Abrahamic religions are all creations of dysfunctional desert tribes in a small region, tribes who are extremist, belligerent and of low culture.

    To fill the ‘God-shaped hole’ in our hearts, we need a Western reincarnation religion, drawing from the well of ancient India, with the meditation practices that let a person directly experience how this life is not the only one … but filled out from our own ethnic cultures, as South and East Asian religions encourage all peoples to do.

    It is through Christianity that Judaism has really conquered the world. Christianity is the masterpiece of Judaism.
    – Ernest Renan (1823-92)

    The most notable Jew to have boasted of Jewish invention of Christianity, and why it was a crime against Europeans, Marcus Eli Ravage (1884-1965):

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  11. man says:

    The worst nightmare for me is to see billions of people deceived by religions , be it Christian or other.
    The problem lies in the culture of the nations, in it there is traditional religion attached.
    Education starts at home so most people when young are introduce to basics of religious beliefs.
    So even when they are old they stick with it, believing or not.
    They follow religious upbringing more or less throughout their life’s, traditionally but not as a way of life.
    The second biggest issue with religions is interpretations.
    The author wrote this:
    Why am I mentioning all this? To show that the problem lies not in the Christian faith, but in the feebleness of the mind and general effeminacy on the part of Christians, and also in the clever doings of its enemies who exploit selected biblical passages and foist their interpretation on the churches that are foolish enough to accommodate them.:
    My question for you Jacek is, is your religion free of human interpretations.?
    I know that Catholic Church is especially full of doctrinal interpretations , which causes millions of people to commit abominations to God through idolatry and praying to people (saints) , these things are forbidden by God.
    Christ Jesus said that John 4:24

    “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
    So let us be not of feeble mind but trust The Lord and only Him

  12. @Alrenous

    Why isn’t it the parents’ responsibility, instead of mine?

    Is a moral obligation the same as a responsibility? We can ignore a moral obligation, and it certainly is the parents’ responsibility. If the cost to the individual is low enough, then most people would act on a moral obligation. Holding the door open for an elderly woman? Probably. But if someone has a weapon and you are pondering being a hero, then that’s a whole different story.

    It’s a fine point that you make. Each person is, in theory, rational and able to make his or her own decision

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  13. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Suetonious

    Is a moral obligation the same as a responsibility?

    The parents can ignore their responsibility too, it just results in their kid getting wrecked.

    Yes, a moral obligation is a kind of responsibility. The key feature of responsibility, in this sense, is that you will be punished for not upholding it. If you ignore a moral obligation and aren’t punished, it either isn’t moral or isn’t an obligation.
    Perhaps you mean ‘obligation’ in the sense that you would think less of someone who doesn’t? That is indeed a punishment, although I hesitate to call it moral. Ref: Plato’s ring of Gyges. If nobody can see me not helping the child, then I suffer no consequences?

    Rather than a guy with a knife, I’m imagining I’m a Palestinian Christian who sees a Jewish kid getting absolutely kicked around by another Jew. Am I obligated to help? For what reason?

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  14. @anonymous

    To fill the ‘God-shaped hole’ in our hearts, we need a Western reincarnation religion, drawing from the well of ancient India, with the meditation practices that let a person directly experience how this life is not the only one … but filled out from our own ethnic cultures, as South and East Asian religions encourage all peoples to do.

    I’m very surprised to see this. I happen to agree. But it’s not going to happen. Christianity will have to do. I don’t presume to advise Christians. But if I did I would advise them to get their heads out of the Hebrew Scriptures and into the NEW Testament.

  15. @WorkingClass

    Christianity requires the belief that Jesus (if he existed) was the literal son of God. To the rational mind, this is a complete fairy tale. It’s really a sad state of affairs if one believes that the only way White people can survive is to swallow the fairy tale. Christianity, founded by Jews, and a devious spin-off of Judaism, is crumbling of its own internal contradictions.

    Christianity, esp. Western Christianity, further destroyed itself when, among myriad other shortcomings, it dropped its 19-century opposition to genital mutilation (aka circumcision), allowing Jewish immorality to gain supremacy. The writer mourns for a lost cause. I mourn for it too. But not for the same reasons. Old-fashioned European Paganism, (which was once the dominant belief), over worship of an omniscient Sky God who impregnated a Virgin, might have been a better way to go. But it was crushed by the armies of oppressive Christianity. Onward Christian Soldier!

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  16. Digital Samizdat [AKA "Seamus Padraig"] says:
    @Alrenous

    Fair enough. Henceforth, we should speak of the White races, the Black races, the Oriental races, etc. Of course, it should be pointed out that the White races were once known collectively as ‘Christendom’.

    • Disagree: Dragoslav
    • Thanks: WorkingClass
    • Replies: @Alrenous
  17. @follyofwar

    It’s really a sad state of affairs if one believes that the only way White people can survive is to swallow the fairy tale.

    White people can survive without Christianity. My point is they will not give up their religion nor should they. Railing against Christianity is counter productive if you are trying to bring people together to change things. We are in no danger from Christians. We are however in mortal danger from the atheist globalists (think WEF or Jews if you prefer) who would themselves be Gods.

  18. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Digital Samizdat

    Yes, I often use the term the Christian races.

    Unfortunately an even more accurate term is the Communist races.

  19. When Christianity was at its best and its strongest in Europe, it kept the Jews down

    This is completely false. The medieval church, along with the nobility, protected jews against the peasants they exploited because the jews gave them more favorable loans in addition to their theological kinship. They were fine with the jewish custom of gheottoization because they knew the European commoners would massacre them if they were in close proximity. Every time there was a pogrom, it was spearheaded by the peasants and the parish priest was always out on the street exhorting the enraged townsfolk to show mercy (and the nobility sent knights to quell the uprisings, of course). Expulsions occurred when European royals didn’t want to deal with a peasant uprising against their Jewish exploiters; kings like Louis IX were aberrations.

    If not for Christianity, jews wouldn’t have survived a generation in Europe. But they thrived, while racial Europeans were massacred for not worshiping Yahweh. Some antisemites those Christian monarchs were!

    • Agree: Thelma Ringbaum
  20. zwingli says:

    ” (which by the way exposes what a debilitating effect Protestantism had on the White man’s world).”

    Protestantism MADE the modern world &; made the White man master of it; putting an end to the Dark Ages in Europe & the enslavement of the Common Man by a corrupt & repressive Medieval Church more concerned with worldly affairs than spiritual. Historical Protestantism IS Christianity in its purest form. The heretical Church at Rome has been trying to catch up ever since, Sadly, some contemporaneous Protestant churches have lost their way & become too worldly again, embracing wokism. This is even worse than Catholicism. All Christians need to reunite & restore the Faith based on premises from the historical record as these : (https://apostles-creed.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/67-sixty-seven-articles.pdf)

    • Disagree: Dragoslav, anarchyst
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  21. Jacek Szela: “Detractors of Christianity among the ranks of white activists seem not to notice that they are playing into the hands of those — yes, Marxist, leftist, and liberal circles — which hold Christianity in low regard and would like to see it gone or transformed into something Christian in all but name.”

    LOL It seems strange that a defender of Christianity should admit that Marxism, leftism, and liberalism are things “Christian in all but name”, but there it is. On the face of it, Szela agrees with Spengler, who wrote:

    All Communist systems in the West are in fact derived from Christian theological thought … Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism.
    – Oswald Spengler, in The Hour of Decision

    But maybe we should just chalk this contretemps up to bad editing. In an attempt to be clever, perhaps Szela has only tripped over his own eloquence.

    Jacek Szela: ” … the Church has been infiltrated and taken over. … Is it still Christianity?”

    This is a familiar refrain from defenders of Christianity. Infiltrated! LOL But could there be a more ludicrous defense? After all, Christianity actively recruits from among its enemies. It welcomes them in so long as they swear allegiance to the two-thousand-years-old zombie Jesus. It’s as though the fire department should do its recruiting from among arsonists! “Who’s starting all the fires?” the firemen now wonder. LOL It’s puzzling all right.

    The issue of whether Christianity evolves or not is an interesting one, however. Can a system of moral law evolve? It seems clear that Christianity is such a system, and that it does in fact evolve. That would seem to be the only way to explain some historical facts, such as the changing Christian perspective on slavery. The Jesus of the Bible seems ignorant that slavery is a sin. He never condemns it, and his apostles frankly aspire to be his slaves. It was only gradually that it fell into disfavor among Christians in Europe, and later still that a slave trade in negroes was abandoned as morally wrong. Even as late as the Dred Scott decision of 1857, the US Supreme Court held that slaves had no human rights that “a white man was bound to respect”; they were considered only property. It took the Civil War, fomented by Christian activists in the North, to resolve the issue in favor of the negro’s human rights. Nowadays, I think it’d be incredibly rare to find a Christian who will say that a negro has no human rights that whites need respect. What would Szela say? He apparently thinks he’s one of the “real” Christians, unsubverted and uninfiltrated. What’s his opinion, or any of you reading this who think you are one of the “real” Christians. Do YOU think that slavery is a sin, or that slaves have human rights?

    If so, perhaps you should tell Jesus. It will help him evolve, as you have done.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @NEETzschean
  22. Dragoslav says:
    @Dule

    This Article is so historically inaccurate, it is the mirror image of ” 16 years old ” neo pagan Christianism bashing.

  23. I do not know who the author of this paper is, but from the name, if it is his real name, he might be Polish.

    The Poles , as a rule, are very stupid when it comes to discourses about Christianity. Usually a Pole cannot tell “Christianity” from “Polish Nationalism”, and has a very very distorted and nationalist view of the World History.

    This Jacek one is completely drunk on his own propaganda. “Keeping Jews down”? Really? In fact, Jews were his grand-grandfathers’ masters precisely because Catholics bred Jews in Poland to be the middle class on top of the polish peasants.

    “Keeping moslems out”? Thats even funnier, because the Sarmatian lords that subjected Jacek ancestors to the brutal serfdom, were basically fringe Turks and Tartars freshly converted to the Catholicism.

    In fact, many many Christians, that is, a vast majority of Orthodox Christian strongly preferred the Turk to the Catholics tyrany. In fact, Orthodox Christians suffered much more at hand of the barbaric Catholics crusader pillagers than from enligntened and noble Moslems.

    So no, Jacek, Poland is not Christ, as you sincerely believe, and it is not the Centre of the Struggle between Good and Evil. It is just a european backwater country that has no monopoly on Christianity.

    And saying “Christianity is evolving”, probably meaning, all is a-ok with Vatican2, it made a Polish Pope to happen, it is just .. well, so Polish.

  24. Franz says:

    Christianity is now a majority non-white creed.

    That should be enough evidence that Western Man has moved on from his superstition and forward to understand that any “wisdom” coming out of the Middle East will be at his expense.

    Good reason to jettison the whole of it and look to our own race for the power patrons we will need for the future.

  25. @Dule

    Lol, the tragic conquest and utter destruction of Constantinople was due to Catholics attacking and pillaging it. The grand success of the Turks in Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria etc. was due to the fact that Catholics occupiers from Venetia and Swabia etc. were nastier and more backward.

    Orthodox Christians preferred the Turk to the Pope, for a reason.

  26. anarchyst says:
    @zwingli

    Get rid of the “judeo” in Christianity and Christianity will do just fine.
    Question:
    Why do Evangelical Christians love Israel and Netanyahu?
    Answer:
    It’s all about the shekels.
    That fat bastard Hagee is a prime example. A close second is that of those who preach the “prosperity gospel” insisting that “God” will make you wealthy if you just “believe”…which couples directly with judaism which celebrates the “God” of money and wealth, strictly jewish concepts.
    Every Christian or Catholic sect that promotes judaism is not following any of the precepts of Christianity or Catholicism.
    Judaism is the exact opposite of Christianity or Catholicism and must be recognized as such. The concept of “judeo-Christian” faith must be abolished.
    Is it possible to be a Christian or Catholic without falling into the error of promoting the jews?
    Absolutely YES.
    However, it requires a recognition that both the Old and New Testament Bible is NOT the “inspired word of God” but is a text which does have some usefulness in guiding human behavior. “Sola scriptura” is a false doctrine along with the Scofield “translation” of the Bible which cemented the jews to the status of “our elder brothers”.
    The Old Testament “God” is a vengeful “God” who has to constantly remind “his people” “who is boss”. Punishment was always a part of the equation.
    Contrast that with the New Testament “God” who is a “God” of mercy and forgiveness…two different concepts, indeed.
    Keep in mind that jews have never repudiated slavery or genocide. Both abominations are still a part of jewish doctrine. It’s all in their talmud.
    The worst people of any faith or belief system are those who “wear their faith on their shoulder” who insist that “their way” is “the only way”.
    Now for differences between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism…
    Protestants, especially Baptists have a “hard on” when it comes to hatred of the Catholic Church. They consider Catholics to be an “enemy” and the Catholic Church to be satanic…
    Protestants take a small part of the Bible and concentrate on one small aspect ignoring the rest of the “message”. A good example of this is the practice of Baptist “snake handlers” who handle poisonous snakes, relying on the “spirit” to “save” them.
    Protestants believe in “sola scriptura” in which the “written word” of the Bible is sacrosanct, despite the Bible being written by men, quite often with their own agenda. Even a shyster Scofield got his biblical licks in, elevating the jews to that of “our elder brother” and absolving the jews from responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ despite vitriolic jewish hatred of Jesus Christ which exists to this very day.
    Protestants also believe that “good works” have no bearing on “salvation” which I have a hard time with).
    In protestant doctrine, one can be a grievous sinner all of his life, hurting and destroying others, and on his deathbed profess a belief in Jesus Christ and will automatically be “saved”.
    Even if “good works” have no bearing on the possibility of “salvation” they can’t hurt…
    Catholics do not worship saints. Those individuals who have lived exemplary lives and have proven themselves to be worthy of veneration by being good examples of what ALL human beings should emulate are recognized by the Catholic Church.
    The Pope is (supposed to be) the “spiritual leader” in our temporal realm, nothing more. The pope has no business commenting on temporal issues of which he knows nothing about.
    Yes, the Catholic Church has problems, and will always have problems, but has still done more for humanity than most.
    The first hospitals, educational institutions, and charity organizations in the middle ages and beyond were founded and run by the Catholic Church.
    I stand by my statement that the “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” was a power grab by jews and protestants and was detrimental to the Catholic faith.
    Fortunately, there are “old-line” Catholic parishes that still exist, despite efforts by “Novus Ordo” clergy to stamp them out…

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  27. @anarchyst

    Another incoherent babble, ignoring all the historical facts , just speak Polish for Saint Norvid’s sake.

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  28. anarchyst says:
    @Thelma Ringbaum

    Got your protestant panties in a twist? Oh well…

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  29. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Alrenous

    What if the [another Jew] in question is in fact their parent? I assume I’m not obligated to help in that case?

    As an outsider, how would I know?
    What if I start to intervene, and then they falsely claim to be the parent? As an outsider, how should I verify this?

  30. @anarchyst

    Orthodox, if you please.

    Which is close to the Brits church, so kind of allied with the prots.

    But you do miss the point. The point is, not enough just babble “Poland is Christ, we made deal with the Devil by being both Catholic and Freemason, and we won”.

    By the Saint Mitzkiewitczscztch, please do explain why your Catholic Poland bred all the Jews and no Protestant or Orthodox place ever did.

  31. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    If you return, I have 2 questions which I’d be very interested in hearing your thoughts on:

    1. Isn’t it possible or even probable that some very wealthy and powerful people have had self-sustaining technological cities built underground as a contingency? And if so, wouldn’t this make the end of the technological system practically impossible?

    2. You have claimed that violence is a beneficial course of action, but do not commit violence yourself, why is that? This is not a criticism by the way.

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