I don’t need documentaries to understand white poverty. My parents grew up dirt-poor, especially my hillbilly mother.

I grew up poor. Not dirt poor, just poor. We always had food on the table, a roof over our heads and clothes on our backs but my mother wasn’t the brightest bulb on the tree. I was the first of 5 kids when she got knocked up in a one-night stand. She then convinced some other guy who she was also seeing that I was his and they needed to get married. I went through most of my life convinced that the name on my birth certificate was my real father until extensive DNA investigation proven that to be wrong.

My mother went on to have 4 other kids, 2 abortions and 2 miscarriages, the latter two items learned via a secret diary discovered after she passed. I could throw a lot more traumatic and gory details out here but I’m saving those for the book once I get famous.

Point is getting pregnant is much too easy for people on the left side of the IQ bell curve like my mother. Once she got some alcohol in her, she was too wiling to spread her legs w/o demanding the guy wear protection. It took a hysterectomy in her mid-30’s to put an end to her ability to make more kids, thankfully.

The only solution seems to be to impose a reversible genetic adjustment that prevents pregnancy because too many humans are too dumb to not make children that they aren’t qualified to raise properly. Then, the only way to get pregnant would be to pass a series of qualifying tests and prove that a couple are capable of being good and proper parents, after which the reversal of the genetic block be allowed.

This is not really very far fetched. I’d guess it should be possible to modify the germline permanently within 20-50 years.

Yes, you can trust the government to handle this idiotic suggestion of tests to get pregnant.

In the early twentieth century, my family did their school work in chalk on pieces of slate, because pencils were scarce. We have a high proportion of engineers in the family tree who started out this way.

Subsistence farming, using horses for plowing and transportation. The arrival of electricity and indoor plumbing is within living memory. I remember frequent moves as my father sought employment in factory towns. Sitting in one place on welfare wouldn’t have been an option.

If “affirmative action” were applied regardless of racial ethnicity most people would have no problem with it, but as it is applied today, DOES devalue the (few) honest accomplishments of those of a certain race.
When one sees persons of a certain race in positions of authority and responsibility, the question arises: “How did he get there? Was it by his own honest efforts or did he benefit from “affirmative action”?
Affirmative action,as presently applied IS a stigma that should be abolished. It benefits no one…and sows seeds of doubt among all of those who work with those in positions of authority of a certain race.
Here is one way think of “affirmative action” as it is presently applied. Oprah Winfrey’s child would automatically qualify for affirmative action just because of skin color while a “poorer than poor” white Appalachian child would never qualify for “affirmative action” solely because he is the “wrong race”.
“Affirmative action” should NEVER have been based on race, but, if deemed “legal”, should have been based on economic status.

I know a lot of women with below average IQ’s who are great, loving, mother’s. I also know a lot of women with high IQ’s who are terrible mother’s.

Yeah, but you people don’t give a shit about poor whites. You’re all free-markety and all that. And free-markety says “If you’re poor, die.”

“Let them starve if they won’t work,” you say.
“Let them pull themselves up by their own bootstraps,” you say.

You think there is something wrong with them because they are poor. Maybe their IQs aren’t high enough.

You say, “Fuck dem poor whites. Everybody gets what he deserves in a truly free free market economy.”

Yup. No help for them, you say. God helps those who help themselves. Otherwise, pffft, you say.

You hypocrites.

Lighten up Frances. This isn’t all about you.

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“I know a lot of women with below average IQ’s who are great, loving, mother’s. I also know a lot of women with high IQ’s who are terrible mother’s.”

Me too. Often the low IQ mothers can better relate to their children, get down to their level, whereas the higher IQ mothers might find this difficult and beneath them. Maybe they lost their playfulness with all that IQ?

I think it depends on the person. Obviously a mother pumping out babies because she’s irresponsible (in which case she’s going to be irresponsible towards the children too) or because she wants more government money is probably not going to be a good mother. She is too centered on herself, what’s good for her. The kids are dragged up.

But if a mother is there for her children, physically and emotionally, if she genuinely loves them and wants the best for them, then no matter how low her IQ, she’s probably going to do alright.

We don’t have a “free market economy”. We have a rigged economy, a globalized economy, run by crony capitalists and their monopolies.

We have a situation where some privileged people get to play the “victim” card while others don’t. Poor Whites are ignored by the media. Even if people knew about their plight, just speaking out about them would elicit cries of “racism”. Some pigs are more equal than others.

As I said, it’s rigged.

This is just the kind of smart-ass comment made by people so far from the struggle for survival that @advansedatheist’s (and my) poor ancestors experienced that they think they are somehow better than us. That snide attitude, that flip remark, is the kind of thing that would have earned you a punch in the mouth in the coarser, rougher days your ancestors came up in. They may have been poor, but they at least had some goddamned manners.

They mean it’s free for them when the rest of us have to pay for it.

You know what the most insulting thing Hollywood ever did to the white man? In the early 1970s they snagged a hit English TV show called “Steptoe and Son” and wanted to Americanize it. The guys in Beverly Hills said they couldn’t IMAGINE a white junk dealer, so they made the father and son black, hence “Sanford and Son.”

What misbegotten bastards! Every talented resale dealer I’ve ever known was white. How much of this is laziness and how much is hate?

And free-markety says “If you’re poor, die.”

Yes, the free-markety Holodomor. The free-markety Great Leap Forward. The free-markety Khmer Rouge. Free-markety Mengistu.

Thank God America isn’t so free-markety:

there is something wrong with them because they are poor.

It’s nowhere near as stupid-sounding for those who spend the ~1/2 a calorie of mental effort to get the causality right: viz.,

they are poor because there is something wrong with them.

It’s only a partial explanator, but anyone who is remotely honest about it, accepts that a decent chunk of the human herd is unfit for purpose (if ‘purpose’ means ‘ability to function in a modern industrial/technological society‘).

It’s not just cognition: it’s related things like planning horizon and impulse control.

It’s got nothing to do with race except insofar as these maladaptive tendencies are more prevalent in Africans, so Pr(Fucked At Birth) is higher for a [part-]African than it is for a white or a Chink or a pajeet.

Stupid whites have the same shortcomings, and in raw numbers there’s more stupid whites than there are [part-]Africans. (In their own countries, there are more stupid pajeets and Chinks than both whites and blacks: in the West we mostly get to see the Chinks and pajeets who have the cognitive wherewithal to extricate themselves).

Maybe their IQs aren’t high enough.

Taken as a measure of central tendency, there’s no ‘maybe’ about it: “the poor” and “the stupid” overlap to a very significant degree, always and everywhere.

Environmental improvements – better food; sanitation; pollution reduction – could ameliorate negative environmental effects on the IQ of the Submerged Quintile, but even if all environmental ‘insult’ could be eliminated, it’s unlikely to be worth more than 10 IQ points at the median.

10 points is a large amount at the tail – the cognitive gap between an IQ of ~110 and an IQ of ~120 gets the bearer from ‘high-school also-ran‘ to ‘mid-level college undergraduate at a decent school‘. From 50 to 60 moves the bearer from ‘does not reliably wipe own arse‘ to ‘can be taught to change its own underpants‘.

But from 80 to 90? Almost irrelevant, when an IQ of 100 is manifestly inadequate to deal with the cognitive demands of modern life.

Someone who’s got a chain holding them twenty feet underwater does not benefit if the chain is extended by 5 feet: they’re now ‘only’ 15 feet underwater, but they’re still fucked and there’s nothing they can do about it.

In a truly free market, society would not have spunked away scarce resources on a series of fool’s errands with the putative aim of uplifting the underclass. Those fool’s errands actually served to subsidise imbeciles to squirt out new imbeciles… and here we are, with the type of imbecility that was once the province of the Submerged Tenth, now seen at the median.

Winter’s Bone is a good movie. Liked it alot.

Yes indeed, we do have a free market economy. For all the erey thang be free niggras like Obwan who shop and cart sprint at the grocery store; pump and run at the gas pump; dine, whine, piss and moan and dash at The Olive Garden etc.

Zinger!!

Errr….if tests had been imposed prior to your birth you never would have been born. You said you had food on your table and a roof over your head. You are alive. What’s wrong with you?

Please, for your own wellbeing work through your Mommy issues. And thank your Mom for giving you your LIFE.

Yes, you can trust the government to handle this idiotic suggestion of tests to get pregnant.

The only thing idiotic here is your standard government is always bad response. You’re a broken record. Somebody has to do this eventually. It will be either the government or me. And I don’t think you want me in charge of that function. I won’t be very charitable.

If there is any justice in the universe, my mother will be rotting in hell forever.

Your trust in the government is impressive. You, however, are not so.

If there is any justice in the universe, my mother will be rotting in hell forever.

LOL

I’m gonna guess the second Sunday in May is kinda depressing for you, huh?

Still feeling sorry for yourself like a little pussy.

Still blaming and hating your mother and father for your woes.

Time to Man Up, Sonny.

Forgive your mother. She willingly gave you life.

Go visit her. Give her something nice and thank her. Even if she’s a fuck up, you’ll be a better man for it.

Agreed!

Now consider some poor white blue-collar worker, drowning in debt, just laid off. Obviously this person has “white privilege,” and oozes the invisible evil miasma of “white supremacy” from every pore just because of his whiteness. Even though you can’t see it or point to it or anything, this “white supremacy” is responsible for all the evil in the world (including when black people assault asians). All we can do to fight the scourge of “white supremacy” is to discriminate against this person, make sure he never gets a job again, and scream about how evil he is.

But now let’s consider the 600 or so mostly white billionaires that really run the country. Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates, Soros, etc… They don’t have white privilege at all, nosiree Bob. They can’t be hated on. The can’t be discriminated against in any way, in their access to zero-interest loans, the massive government subsidies and bailouts that maintain and boost their wealth, their control of the media and most of the government, their near-zero effective tax rates…. no privilege here. What, you want to discriminate against Bezos when Amazon ‘competes’ for a juicy cost-plus government contract in favor of an oligarch of color? Not gonna happen. Sure, Bezos might be forced to accept some token POCs in his company, but Bezos himself gets a free pass.

It’s almost as if the elites are using race to distract us from class war, but that’s just my “white supremacy” talking.

how many jewish billionaires, total?
how many leftist billionaires?

Ah your question is repetitive.

Another doofus added to my block list. Sounds like you have an Oedipus problem.

There were many talents who came from the farm —dirt poor but bright and hard working and had a vision and a GOOD teacher made the difference.

Lighten up Albert. Lighten up Robert.

“The name’s Psycho…”

High IQ women are no less gullible than low IQ ones. They believe that career is more important than it is and have largely abandoned motherhood. It’s a catastrophe. I think quite a few men understand this but choose not to be honest with them about it because it’s easier.

You make a good point about the dishonesty of the supposed “free market” system (which actually doesn’t exist).
The united States of America was largely successful due to the (lack of) ethics of most builders of industry, raking in millions in profits for themselves while ignoring the basic needs of those who made their success possible by their hard work.
It was common to see these “captains of industry” do their damnedest to pay their employees as little as possible while raking in massive profits benefiting only themselves.
These “captains of industry” attempted to redeem themselves by establishing “foundations” (which guarded their wealth, making it tax exempt) and indirectly countering their own beliefs that it was not necessary to pay their employees a “decent wage”.
They always pleaded poverty to their employees while living grand lives themselves.
One must not forget the “company town” with the “company store” which was a more advanced form of “slavery”, putting people in bondage by charging artificially inflated prices for goods while their employees wages were “not quite enough” to escape the cycle. Those who attempted to escape the “company town” were threatened with lawsuits and more for “moneys owed” to the company…
These injustices contributed to the rise of labor unions, which at first, were brutally suppressed.
There were exceptions, such as Henry Ford, who almost single-handedly created the middle class by paying his employees well above “market wages” of the day. Ford’s $5.00 per day wage was not entirely altruistic as it was also instituted to stem “turnover” as assembly line work was monotonous, but his writings have stated that one of his objectives along with the institution of the 8-hour workday was to make it possible for workers to “enjoy the fruits of their labor”.
The “robber baron” label, being criticized by today’s proponents of “capitalism” and “free markets” have it wrong. We have never had truly “free markets”…

Just more ethnic econoganda. Meanwhile, international drug dealers make billions and leave a trail of bodies in their wake. Life ain’t fair and crime does pay.