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See also: The System Revealed: Antifa, Virginia Politicians And Police Work Together To Shut Down #UniteTheRight

It’s surreal to have lived through an event that is even now being mythologized. It’s nothing short of infuriating to see a mythology growing up that is almost an exact opposite of what actually happened. The lies being told about what happened at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville VA a year ago this weekend are so outrageous and so demonstrably untrue that it makes you question all of history.

What other historical events and movements have we been lied to about? And can you prop up an entire failing system based on lies?

Main Stream Media coverage throughout the country is being dominated by commemorations of the ill-fated rally [Charlottesville making final preparations for anniversary of deadly rally, by Talya Cunningham, WAVY, August 10, 2018]. The media is also eagerly hyping the second “Unite the Right 2” rally in front of the White House even though few participants in the original rally seem to be going [It’s right there in front of the White House.’: Is D.C. ready for Unite the Right? By Caroline Simon, USA Today, August 10, 2018]. The obvious intention: to claim the Alt Right has been defeated after almost no one shows up.

But it’s more likely that patriots have simply learned their lesson: not to put their trust in the law, the police, or the First Amendment. Flagrantly-biased law enforcement since last August has convinced many on the Dissident Right that they not only will not be defended by police, they will not even be permitted to defend themselves. Since the release of the Heaphy Report on the events in Charlottesville, it has been undeniable that the local police department deliberately fostered a climate of instability and unrest so it would have an excuse to shut down the rally.

This chaos culminated with James Fields driving into a crowd of screaming protesters, an act which led to the death of Heather Heyer, now being celebrated as a martyr. Of course, as Ann Coulter bravely pointed out earlier this week, Fields had good reason to fear for his life. In the end, he may well be acquitted like George Zimmerman or found guilty of a lesser offense—unless, as Coulter half-joked, “his defense lawyer is planning on intentionally throwing the case for the greater good.” Of course, if Fields is acquitted, we can probably expect another riot.

Aside from VDARE.com, no media outlets seem curious about the questionable cases being brought against defendants who are still jailed in Charlottesville—even as “anti-fascist” protesters caught on tape engaged in violence are let off scot free.

Even more serious: this double standard seems to be spreading across the country. Eric Clanton, a college professor caught on tape hitting people with a bike lock in Berkeley last spring, was let go with only probation. Somehow, no one died. He probably would never have been arrested at all if online activists at /pol hadn’t done the job the cops didn’t want to do and actually investigated these assaults.

Establishment reporters seem remarkably uninterested in confronting city and state officials to demand answers about why a climate of violence was deliberately cultivated in Charlottesville—including by Antifa against reporters [Female reporter for The Hill allegedly punched by ‘antifa’ protester in Charlottesville, by Adam Shaw, Breitbart, August 12, 2017]. Instead, the “free press” that constantly brags to us about its role in curbing the powerful is doing things like hunting down pizza delivery guys with far more moderate views than the newest member of The New York Times Editorial Board[When the pizza delivery guy is also ‘Nazi Bob,’ by Matt Viser, Boston Globe, November 18, 2017].

Over the last year, this has also meant a concerted effort to dox and economically destroy people for simply commenting on unapproved websites [Dov Bechhofer Did Nothing Wrong, by Greg Johnson, Counter-Currents, August 1, 2018]. This blunt exercise of power is especially disgusting as journalists continue to pose as martyrs because President Trump has criticized their dishonest tactics [Newspaper calls for war of words against Trump media attacks, by Bob Salsberg, Associated Press, August 10, 2018].

In contrast, as opposed to the hypothetical violence supposedly encouraged by President Trump, reporters seem totally comfortable with the long record of physical attacks on journalists by Antifa in the recent past [Physical assault on journalists’ rap sheet reveal antifa: 10—Trump Supporters: 0, by John Nolte, Breitbart, August 31, 2017].

Indeed, after Portland police used to separate the two sides at a recent rally in that city, reporters have responded with a public relations campaign against the cops. Some examples of their agitprop include:

Of course, as it is Antifa who create the violent conditions at any patriot protest. Police restraint only fuels chaos, as the antifa then turn their destructive tendencies on the larger community, as they did on Inauguration Day.

Since the tragedy of Charlottesville, America has experienced anarcho-tyranny on a mass scale. In a classic example of victim-blaming, Unite The Right was exploited not just to enable a crackdown on public Alt Right demonstrations, but even on the expression of opinion online. What’s more, as shown by the recent deplatforming of Alex Jones and one-time VDARE.com contributor Gavin McInnes, more recently founder of the explicitly multicultural (and pro-Israel) Proud Boys, the censorship is expanding to targets that have nothing to do with race. The campaign is also being cheered on by System media outlets, most of whom are urging that more targets be taken down [Deplatforming works, Motherboard, August 10, 2018].

Ultimately, it will extend even to “mainstream” hosts with large audiences. CNN, which played a large part in promoting the anti-Jones campaign, is now targeting Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson for supposedly giving a voice to “white anxiety” [White anxiety finds a home at Fox News, by Tom Kludt and Brian Stelter, CNN, August 9, 2018]. It’s no exaggeration to say that most journalists see their job as shutting up other people they disagree with. The line between “journalist” and SPLC apparatchik is practically nonexistent.

It can be expected that most Establishment conservatives will do nothing to oppose this. allegedly because much of the censorship is perpetrated by ostensibly “private” institutions. However, even that may not be true much longer: Senate Democrats, using the excuse of “Russian disinformation” campaigns, are already circulating a memo that would establish more government control over Internet content, including the de facto end of online anonymity [Senate Democrats Are Circulating Plans for Government Takeover of the Internet: Reason Roundup, by Elizabeth Nolan Brown, Reason, July 31, 2018].

Slowly, America is moving toward a system where only favored groups will be allowed to express their opinion. Arguably, America is already at the point where groups such as Antifa simply do not have to obey the law at all, while ruinous lawsuits and “lawfare” are unleashed against conservative groups.

However, because of the nature of far-Left groups, and the high level of frenzy needed to keep the campaign against the Alt Right going, it is practically guaranteed the climate is going to grow more hysterical in the future, regardless of whether patriots continue to take to the streets or not.

The end result: a country that increasingly seems on the brink of madness as it is gaslighted by a media growing ever more shrill. America is being put on a permanent war footing—and the enemy its people are being mobilized against is the historic American nation, those European-Americans who live this country and its heritage.

President Trump, who seems to have far less power over this country than do the media and technology conglomerates, must act forcefully to ensure freedom of speech and the objective rule of law is re-established.

Otherwise, if there is ever a true history of the United States, Unite the Right in Charlottesville will be remembered as the day America truly came under enemy occupation.

Charlottesville Survivor [Email him] is a white man who voted for Trump. The Left hates all white men who voted for Trump, whether they were in Charlottesville or not.

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  1. FKA Max says: • Website

    The Charlottesville Incident and the Court of Public Opinion


    Video Link

  2. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    How can sane, thoughtful Americans at this point believe the Establishment? Thanks for this concise, well expressed counter-Narrative.

    If the author or an editor reads this through (I suggest aloud) once more, he will spot a few minor mistakes.

  3. David says:

    I seem to remember this author putting up the addresses where those alt-right types still incarcerated could get encouraging mail. Can we see those again? I searched but could not find.

    • Replies: @egregious philbin
  4. El Dato says:

    Basically Weimar levels of chaos, with Trump standing in as Chancellor Hindenburg. This will get worse before it gets in any way better.

    Of course, as it is Antifa who create the violent conditions at any patriot protest. Police restraint only fuels chaos, as the antifa then turn their destructive tendencies on the larger community, as they did on Inauguration Day.

    This suggests that maximum lulz can be achieved by drawing “counterprotesters” with stark and outrageous announcements, annoy them, then leave. Watch the area descend into delicious anti-G20 levels of mayhem while playing fascist vidya in a parking lot.

    • Replies: @austin millbarge
  5. Excellent article, once again. Thank you for your courage, research, articulations, and commitment.

  6. Anonymous [AKA "Schwanzlutscher"] says:

    No surprise there .

  7. I’m sure it has nothing to do with police being trained by IDF terrorists.

    Seems most of the Alt right is not alt at all. Aside from D Duke, most of them seem to be Israel loving zionists. I think most of it is just more divide and conquer type stuff, make anyone who opposes the massive Israeli influence over our country look like racists to the rest of the country.

    I think the “left” are victims of this game too, Antifa seems to be the same type of psyop, to make the other side look like intolerant terrorists. Most “left” voters are not that way, not where I live anyway.

    Sad that we have a “media” and “leaders” that puts these agents front and center to try and create this narrative, trying to make change impossible. Drowning out any discussion of the real issues plaguing America.

    Follow the money, that is where you will find the real enemy of America. Zionist influence over our govt, finance and military is the #1 danger facing America and the world at the moment, I think a lot of folks would agree with that, left or right. Everything else is a distraction to keep you from talking about this.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  8. KenH says:

    James Fields will likely get railroaded by the corrupt jewdicial system in Charlottesville. A change of venue is clearly warranted but I doubt it will be granted by the judge, so his jury will be comprised of BLM and Antifa sympathizers. IOW, not a fair and impartial jury by any measure.

    Will he receive competent defense counsel or will he/she be someone who throws the case for the greater good as Ann Coulter said in her recent column? I fear it will be the latter.

    In a sane world Fields would only be charged with involuntary manslaughter as that’s all the evidence shows. Based on initial reports even the police said Fields wasn’t aware that he killed anyone so there was obviously no malice aforethought or intent to harm/kill and therefore no justification for a murder one charge. Fields was clearly in danger from the left wing mob and trying to save his own life as any sentient being would.

    Even if by some miracle Fields beats the rap the virtue signaling Jeff Sessions and feds will be waiting in the wings to charge him with hate crimes and civil rights violations based on things he wrote on the internet two years ago and committing the unpardonable sin of of being a white person who doesn’t hate himself and culture. This is Soviet style “justice”.

    • Replies: @Crimson2
  9. JohnS says:

    Kessler is a liberal “agent provocateur” by his own admission. The rally is sucker bait, to provide another incident for the corporate propaganda machine to focus on.

  10. tanabear says:

    ‘What other historical events and movements have we been lied to about?”

    The 9/11 attacks, the Iraq War, Black Lives Matter(Hands-up Don’t shoot), the Georgian–South Ossetian conflict, Benghazi, the war in Libya and the war in Syria.

  11. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Good job, Jason Kessler!

    Review: Unite The Right 2

    It went much like I expected it would too. I predicted it would be more like the small rally in Berkeley last weekend than UTR in Charlottesville. Jason Kessler held what was essentially a small Alt-Lite free speech rally in Washington, DC which was protected by a massive police presence. No one got hurt. There won’t be any fallout from this for the movement.
    […]
    I would like to thank Jason Kessler for standing up for our First Amendment rights. If he hadn’t done this, the media narrative would be a hagiography all weekend.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2018/08/12/review-unite-the-right-2/

    Jason Kessler is a hero!

    https://www.unz.com/article/thoughts-on-charlottesville-and-what-it-means-for-us/#comment-1969037

    • Replies: @FKA Max
    , @FKA Max
  12. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Beautiful…

    Antifa clashes with police and journalists in Charlottesville and DC

    Antifa says it fights fascists and neo-Nazis. But this weekend, members attacked cops and journalists.

    https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/8/12/17681986/antifa-leftist-violence-clashes-protests-charlottesville-dc-unite-the-right

    This is not the first time antifa protesters have been violent. In August 2017, about 100 anarchists and antifa members assaulted far-right demonstrators who were marching peacefully in Berkeley, California, with pepper spray, water bottles, and direct physical assault.
    […]
    This weekend in Charlottesville and Washington, DC, though, it wasn’t neo-Nazis and white supremacists antifa attacked. It was police who were there to help keep the peace among all the demonstrators and journalists who were there to cover the events.

    How that factors into antifa’s ideology is anyone’s guess.

  13. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    The Alt Right needs to keep pulling a Bush 43 on Conservatism Inc. and have it taste some of its own medicine:

    Either you are with us, or you are with the [AntiFa]

    https://www.unz.com/pgottfried/charlottesville-after-a-year-as-an-outsider-i-think-the-alt-right-far-from-finished/#comment-2449664

    Ann Coulter gets it…

    Ann Coulter
    ‏Verified account @AnnCoulter

    Ann Coulter Retweeted The Columbia Bugle

    Will Mitt Romney & Marco Rubio disavow? They both endorsed antifa.

    “No border, no wall, no USA at all” This is the Left, this is their plan.

    – 6:13 PM – 12 Aug 2018

  14. Crimson2 says:

    You’re the one lying, dude.

    Hey, how did the sequel go? 25 people? Yeah, don’t forget that. Know your place.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  15. Crimson2 says:
    @KenH

    Do you morons not realize that Fields’ act of murder is on video? He’s toast.

    • Replies: @I_Was_There
    , @Anonymous
    , @KenH
  16. @Crimson2

    Show me the video of Heather Heyer being struck by a vehicle, any of the vehicles in the pileup. I will be waiting.

    • Replies: @crimson2
  17. For a long while, I thought that a conspiracy guided James Fields to drive into the crowd. After studying the matter further, however, I decided that there was no such conspiracy. I described by current reasoning in the following article.

    Key Considerations About the Events on Fourth Street in Charlottesville

    https://people-who-did-not-see.blogspot.com/2018/05/key-considerations-about-events-on.html

    • Replies: @Mike Sylwester
  18. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Crimson2

    We had a bloody civil war led by a Republican President to make blacks equal with whites, so who’s surprised that a local police department deliberately fostered a climate of instability and unrest in support of the same goal? The blue-collar Democrat KKK attempted to be a counterbalance to Republican egalitarianism, but it has been brutally repressed again by The Enforcement Acts. Not much has changed, except Democrats have now joined Republicans to make blacks equal with whites. The United States will soon succeed, just as soon as law enforcement defeats white insurgents.

    “Insurgents were in rebellion against the authority of the United States.” -President Grant 1871

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  19. Jake says:

    “It’s nothing short of infuriating to see a mythology growing up that is almost an exact opposite of what actually happened. The lies being told about what happened at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville VA a year ago this weekend are so outrageous and so demonstrably untrue that it makes you question all of history.”

    That’s nothing new. Not even in America. In fact, the entire ground up structure of the American Elite is based upon that very thing in terms of the definitive formation of WASP culture out of the Henrician ‘reforms’ and then the Puritan Revolution.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  20. The lies being told about what happened at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville VA a year ago this weekend are so outrageous and so demonstrably untrue that it makes you question all of history.

    Beautiful. This is as it should be. Now, take it a step further and learn to question everything.

    Short course.: It’s 99% pure BS.

    • Replies: @crimson2
  21. Since the tragedy of Charlottesville, America has experienced anarcho-tyranny on a mass scale.

    Oh, bullshit. “Anarcho?” Ya had to throw that bogeyman into the mix, didn’t ya? What you’re writing about is highly organized, high grade tyranny. Nothing “anarcho” about it.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  22. @Anonymous

    We had a bloody civil war led by a Republican President to make blacks equal with whites…

    That was the pretext, for sure. The reality is that it was a war of northern bankers and industrialists against an agrarian south. Where else have we seen such motives? You may want to familiarize yourself with the Morgenthau Plan for starters.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  23. crimson2 says:
    @I_Was_There

    Show me the video of Heather Heyer being struck by a vehicle

    lol, your uncledaddy did not do much to educate you.

    You morons going to argue that she just spontaneously died? All the injuries and broken bones were just unrelated falls? A huge coincidence? I mean, I knew y’all were stupid, but I had no idea you would be THIS stupid.

  24. crimson2 says:
    @jacques sheete

    Now, take it a step further and learn to question everything.

    You guys should really question the idea that drinking bleach is bad. The Jews are trying to trick you on that one.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  25. @redmudhooch

    The problem is that the frog is getting boiled. Now that there’s no draft, there’s no urgent motive to oppose the Big Plan. As I enter my twilight years it saddens me that conservatism has done nothing but lose for all my life. Even Reagan turned out to be a betrayer. I think Trump is sincere about some of his positions, but he’s clearly on the defensive against the “Jews” — which word I put in quotes because there are a lot of Jews who are on the side of the good guys, at least where foreign policy and American jobs are concerned. Right now the country is really screwed up with Neocons running wild in foreign policy and Trump’s domestic agenda stymied, if it was sincere to begin with. Far from being Hitler, he seems easy to push around.

  26. @crimson2

    Not clear she was struck by Fields or any vehicle, since she died of a heart attack. But Fields probably struck her or struck a car that struck her or pushed people into her. In any case he is responsible, but I would think his state of mind could mitigate. The city deliberately created a state of emergency in order to have an excuse to cancel the rally, and the state of emergency may have affected Fields in some way prior to the incident, either by Antifa pounding on his car or merely rattling him with their generally threatening behavior.

    • Replies: @crimson2
  27. @jacques sheete

    That view of the war was the main one prior to the civil rights movement of the 60s. It is associated with Charles and Marie Beard. It is the view I was taught as a schoolboy in Noo York City. I believe it is considered a Marxist view of sorts, yet was the most influential view before it was overturned for PR reasons in the 60s.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  28. During a visit to Wash DC circa 1980 I took a walk to the White House and discovered that the American Nazi Party was demonstrating. There were about 20 of them in full classic uniform, marching back and forth holding a large Nazi flag. Less than a dozen tourists were watching, and in the far distance I could see two bored-looking cops milling around. A middle-aged man from an eastern Euro country walked over with his camera and started expressing his disbelief that this was allowed to happen here. In his country, he said, they would be carted off to prison immediately! So I explained the First Amendment and how anyone in the US had the right to express themselves.

    I ended up processing his roll of film and shipping it through the mail for him, as he said it would be safe because getting caught with the film at his country’s airport could land him in prison.

    “Slowly, America is moving toward a system where only favored groups will be allowed to express their opinion.”

    That observation from the article is true, but it’s not happening slowly, it’s happening at the speed of light. And it’s easy to see who the favored group is. Every television channel is an endless stream of commentary by an endless stream of Cohens, Bergs, and Steins, and they have transformed America into a country where one person who wants to stand up for free speech will need to be surrounded by thousands of riot police.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  29. Otherwise, if there is ever a true history of the United States, Unite the Right in Charlottesville will be remembered as the day America truly came under enemy occupation.

    Dude, you really need to put down your pen and pick up some real history books.

    Have you ever heard of FDR?

    How about the establishment of the “Federal” “Reserve?”

    Do you know anything about who/ what imposed the constitution on the rest of us? Grab yourself a little Spooner and dig in.

    For this reason, whoever desires liberty, should understand these vital facts, viz.: 1. That every man who puts money into the hands of a “government” (so called), puts into its hands a sword which will be used against himself, to extort more money from him, and also to keep him in subjection to its arbitrary will. 2. That those who will take his money, without his consent, in the first place, will use it for his further robbery and enslavement, if he presumes to resist their demands in the future. 3. That it is a perfect absurdity to suppose that any body of men would ever take a man’s money without his consent, for any such object as they profess to take it for, viz., that of protecting him; for why should they wish to protect him, if he does not wish them to do so? To suppose that they would do so, is just as absurd as it would be to suppose that they would take his money without his consent, for the purpose of buying food or clothing for him, when he did not want it. 4. If a man wants “protection,” he is competent to make his own bargains for it; and nobody has any occasion to rob him, in order to “protect” him against his will. 5. That the only security men can have for their political liberty, consists in their keeping their money in their own pockets, until they have assurances, perfectly satisfactory to themselves, that it will be used as they wish it to be used, for their benefit, and not for their injury. 6. That no government, so called, can reasonably be trusted for a moment, or reasonably be supposed to have honest purposes in view, any longer than it depends wholly upon voluntary support.

    – Lysander Spooner
    —No Treason, no. 6: The Constitution of no Authority, pages 16–17

    The USA, from the point of view of the truly productive classes, has been enemy (parasite) occupied territory since before it was a country. Even the commonly stated motives for the AM Rev are obviously bogus.

    [The masses], as no one may deny, have often risen against governments extorting too high a price for their services, or threatening to overwhelm them with intolerable burdens, but the success of such movements seldom results in more than a change of masters, and the new governing class has usually been larger and of inferior quality. The result of these revolutions has been what it always must be—augmented burdens and a recrudescence of the State of War.23

    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion – Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
    oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=228&chapter=36940&layout=html&Itemid=27#a_1585595

  30. crimson2 says:
    @jack daniels

    Antifa pounding on his car or merely rattling him with their generally threatening behavior.

    Nobody was around him when he started his attack. I’m sure that will be his argument, but it won’t work.

  31. @crimson2

    You guys should really question the idea that drinking bleach is bad.

    Even so, what’s wrong with questioning the assertion?

    If one drinks chlorinated water, it could be argued that one’s drinking bleach. That may not be so bad.

    Rural folks are also known to sometimes dump bleach into their wells. Izzat necessarily bad? Once again, questioning can lead one to good if not necessarily “the” answers.

    PS: One of the great strengths of “Jewish” culture, from my observations, is that they are taught to question everything right out of the chute, and that’s a good thing in my opinion.

    Feel free to question all I’ve written, and thanks for questioning my assertion. You lose points for missing the point, and taking it literally however.

    PSS: Are you aware that concrete ideation can be a symptom of schizophrenia?

    Ya’ll have a nice day now, and remember that mythoclasty can often be your friend.

    • Replies: @crimson2
  32. @Mike Sylwester

    A few minutes before James Fields drove his car into the crowd, he was idling his car north of the intersection of Fourth Street and Market Street.

    It’s likely that Fields came to that location because he had seen a group of 100 counter-protesters march south from Justice Park, which is located further north from that intersection. That large group had marched south on Fourth Street, through that intersection and then further south another four blocks.

    Justice Park was a base for the counter-protesters. That large group marched five blocks south in response to a report that a fight was taking place.

    It seems that Fields saw the large group walking south through the Fourth-Market intersection, and then he parked just north of that intersection, looking southward at the large group.

    That is why Fields was on Fourth Street, which was street on which he subsequently drove southward into the crowd.

    That is also why all the counter-protesters turned from Water Street northward onto Fourth Street. After the large group found that no fight was taking place, they were returning north on Fourth Street toward Justice Park. Therefore, all anti-racism protesters on Water Street turned northward on Fourth Street.

    Thus, Fields happened to be at the Fourth-Market intersection, looking southward, when all the counter-protesters were at the Fourth-Water intersection and were beginning to walk northward.

    On Fourth Street, between Fields on the north and the counter-protesters on the south were two blocks: 1) Market-Main and 2) Main-Water.

    For some reason, Fields drove southward from Market to Main, stopped for a while, and then drove southward very fast into the crowd. I explain Fields’ decision as follows.

    —–

    Fields had driven his car from his Ohio home to Charlottesville, Virginia, in order to attend the demonstration against the removal of the Civil War statues. It’s not clear whether he considered himself to be a participant in the demonstration. He said that he wanted to talk with a particular person (not identified to the public) who was scheduled to speak at the demonstration.

    He parked his car at McIntire Park and walked south to Robert Edward Lee Park, which is where the protest against the removal of the Civil War statues was supposed to take place.

    He was in Lee Park when the government cancelled the protest permit. When the permit was cancelled, fighting broke out. After a while, Fields walked back, northward, to McIntire Park, because his car was parked there.

    During the walk to McIntire Park, which lasted about 30 minutes, Fields became acquainted with three other men who had been at the protest and who were walking to McIntire Park.

    After Fields was arrested for driving into the crowd, those three men were questioned by the police, and their statements were mentioned at the preliminary hearing.

    —–

    The hearing transcript indicates that some eyewitnesses had seen James Fields idling his car north of the intersection of Fourth Street and Market Street a few minutes before he drove southward into the crowd.

    During the hearing, defense attorney Denise Lunsford and prosecutor Nina-Alicia Antony questioned detective Steven Young, who investigated the incident. Lunsford compelled Young to confirm that James Fields’ shirt smelled of urine when he was arrested. In her redirect questioning, Antony asked Young to confirm that the eyewitnesses at Fourth-Market said that they did not see anyone attack Fields — in particular, did not see anyone splash urine onto Fields — while he was idling his car north of the intersection.

    Reading the transcript between the lines, I suspect that Fields had told his attorney that he was splashed with urine at that intersection and that the attackers prevented him from retreating northward from the intersection. Therefore he was compelled to drive southward on Fourth Street in order to escape the urine attack.

    Angry, confused and fearful, he subsequently drove further southward and into the crowd.

    Reading the transcript between the lines, I suspect that the Fourth-Main eyewitnesses themselves were the culprits who splashed urine onto Fields, blocked his northward retreat, and compelled his southward escape from the Fourth-Market intersection.

    In her cross-examination of Detective Young, defense attorney Lunsford introduced the story of the three men who walked with Fields from Emancipation Park to McIntire Park. She introduced this story right before introducing the matter of the urine-splashed shirt.

    Reading the transcript between the lines, I suspect that during the future trial Lunsford will call the three men to testify that Fields’ shirt was clean at McIntire when he parted from them and began driving back to the downtown area. Such testimony might cause the jury to decide that the Fourth-Market eyewitnesses themselves threw urine on Fields and then lied about that and about other facts.

    • Replies: @Russ
    , @CCZ
  33. @David

    Letters to UTR guys still in jail:
    Name & inmate #, + your name & address on each page.

    Jacob Goodwin 634728, sentencing 8/23/18, faces 10 yrs, malicious wounding
    Daniel Borden 631461, sentencing 10/1/18, faces 10 yrs, malicious wounding
    Alex Michael Ramos 632152, sentence 8/23/18, faces 6 yrs, malicious wounding
    James Fields 631438, 3-WEEK trial 11/26/18, faces death.

    Albemarle County Regional Jail
    160 Peregory Lane
    Charlottesville VA 22902

    Tyler Davis trial 9/17/18, Rich Preston sentencing 8/21/18

    • Replies: @David
  34. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnonYmouche

    “Unite the Right 2” should have been called The ADL Freak-a-thon.

    (Does Kessler work for ADL? If the goal was to embarrass to death the Unite the Right movement, Heck of a Job, Jason.)

    A good deal of the protesters’ animus was directed at “Nazees.”

    Really?

    Are Blacks furious because Nazees are running USA?

    “Nazees discriminate against We Blacks so we can’t get jobs.”
    “Nazees are not allowing Blacks to get as good an education as Whites.”

    Is that what BLM vs White Supremacy is all about?

    ADL shur does get its scripts mixed up, but mobs never notice things like total incoherence.

    http://dc.adl.org/charlottesville-anniversary-interfaith-solidarity-declaration/

    ADL got ~170 signatures on a “Solidarity Petition” against “hate”
    I didn’t hear any of the Unite the Righters spewing Hate. Meaningless rants, Yes. Hate? No.
    The ADL-supported and endorsed turf mob shouted Hate, manifested Hate, embodies Hate.
    Or Ignorance, which might be even worse.

    80 of the signatories were Jewish; 2 were Zoroastrian !
    Episcopalians topped the list of non-Jewish signers– at least four of the Episcopal signers are Trainers, trained by ADL to run BLM “sensitivity” sessions at DC area churches. The Episcopal bishop is a Black man.
    Unitarians displayed their usual propensity to hop on the bandwagon.

  35. @tanabear

    ‘What other historical events and movements have we been lied to about?”

    … the Vegas shooter, Sandy Hook, Parkland, JFK assassination, unemployment and inflation stats … at this point I only still believe the Earth is round and we landed on the moon.

  36. @El Dato

    that’s exactly what i was thinking. plan a multi-state right-wing protest; name it something far more sinister than “unite the right”, and then sit back and watch the mayhem ensue.

    it would need to be hyped on a level far greater than charlottesville, to include; torchlight vigil martyr’s parade, and commemorative nighttime orations by notable white nationalist/supremacist representatives as guest speakers.

    as the (((msm))) are historically illiterate my list would include dave lane, jay matthews, bruder schweigen, g.l. rockwell, david duke (always a surefire incendiary), jordan peterson, b. byron mills, stepan bandera, felix allfarth, andreas bauriedl, theodor casella, wilhelm ehrlich, martin faust, anton hechenberger, oskar körner, karl kuhn, karl laforce, kurt neubauer, klaus von pape, theodor von der pfordten, johann rickmers, max erwin von scheubner-richter, lorenz ritter von stransky-griffenfeld, wilhelm wolf, et.al.

    the list of orators should be published on the day of the intended fake demonstration so as to incite the (((msm))) to publish the list without confirming the orator’s identities prior to dissemination; the national ridicule would be priceless.

    apply for the parade permits, and countersue when they are invariably denied.

    said ruse would require some participation by intrepid provocateurs so as to lend credibility, and draw out the intended, and predictable, ne-er-do-wells (i.e., diversionary processional caravans, leaflet dissemination, on-site reconnoitering, fake social media chatter, etc.)

    it’s a lot of work for a fake event, however, the carnage could be well worth the effort.

    • LOL: Ron Unz
  37. crimson2 says:
    @jacques sheete

    Once again, questioning can lead one to good if not necessarily “the” answers.

    Questioning things is fine, of course. The problem is that the people at this site “question everything” for ideological reasons, but never question their own beliefs. And thus you end up with idiots who question things like Sandy Hook. They are narcissists and they can’t stand it if reality in any way makes their world views seem mistaken. Instead of changing their views, they use a web of logical fallacies, irrelevancies and broad misconceptions to change reality itself.

    • Replies: @RudyM
    , @jacques sheete
  38. @crimson2

    Thank you for admitting there is no evidence Heyer was struck by a vehicle. The only people who were struck suffered minor injuries. Heyer died of a heart attack because she was a chain-smoking morbidly obese disaster who couldn’t handle a little excitement. The injuries to her upper torso were a direct (and common) result of chest compressions.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  39. APilgrim says:

    ANTIFA Anarchists have targeted LEO & Conservative Leaders, with deadly force.

    And we should come down HARD on these ANTIFA Anarchists.

    Governors & Mayors should authorize Deadly-Force, against ANTIFA Anarchists.

  40. There is no evidence that Heather Heir was hit by Field’s car.
    Her own mother said that she died of a heart attack.
    And the two cops that died crashed a chopper and had nothing to do with the rally.
    Antifa started the violence, period.
    And then innocent white men were blamed for it.
    The (((media))) lies about everything.

  41. APilgrim says:

    Batter Up, & ‘Gun-Up’, for a ‘Hate-Free-Zone’?

    OK, if that’s the way ANTIFA wants this to play out.

  42. Rosie says:

    The First Amendment is a dead letter. The City of Charlottesville vetoed White men’s freedom of speech, and got away with it because of a monolithic media they knew would run cover for them. If Trump doesn’t crack down on the lying press, all of this will have been for naught.

  43. FKA Max says: • Website
    @I_Was_There

    Thank you for admitting there is no evidence Heyer was struck by a vehicle.

    Heather Heyer was struck/hit by James Fields’ Dodge Challenger.

    Watch the video in my first comment on this comments thread for evidence: https://www.unz.com/article/charlottesville-after-a-year/#comment-2459161

    More evidence here:
    https://www.unz.com/article/anarcho-tyranny-update/#comment-2027101
    and here

    Also, a commenter over in the other comment thread on the, by now infamous, controversial Heather Heyer article that was published by the Unz Review questioned my claim/conclusion that Heather Heyer was directly hit by the car.
    Here my reply to him, in case other readers also have doubts about this scenario

    https://www.unz.com/article/anarcho-tyranny-update/#comment-2031621

    • Replies: @I_WAS_THERE
  44. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Tim Pool is doing outstanding, truly fair and balanced journalism:

    Antifa Attacked Journalists, Why Is Media Staying Silent?(UPDATED)

    Video Link

    UPDATE: After making the video CNN’s Brian Stelter and Jake Tapper called out Antifa for attacking Press. Antifa attacked journalists with NBC last night. It was just a quick hit and it seems everyone is ok. But this type of behavior is prevalent among far left protests so why doesn’t the media talk about it? We heard that CNN personalities have faced threats and many people are upset with Trump for his rhetoric about the press. But the issue goes both ways.

    Patriot Prayer Is Dragging Antifa Into An Unwinnable PR War (HBO)

    Video Link

    On Saturday, Patriot Prayer held a “Freedom March” in Portland. Around a thousand counter protesters showed up, far outnumbering the 200 or so people who came to support Patriot Prayer. But Gibson isn’t playing a numbers game. His strategy appears to focus more on creating moments that will make leftists look violent — and himself look like a victim. And it seems to be working, at least for his base.

  45. Anonymous[142] • Disclaimer says:
    @FKA Max

    Antifa is unsure about whether beating fascists is an american tradition (kick Hitler’s arse, help Stalin, FDR) or being fascists is an american tradition (Police, militarized or otherwise, KKK, Nazi larping).

    They are mightily confused, especially if real fascists don’t march.

    They then lock onto nearest targets to get this May ’68 feel they keep hearing about.

    (Currently Mai 68, the swindle of the century. These guys were just like today: confused, red-hued from Stalinists to Maoists, PC, not exactly working hard and more often than not just there to get some pussy.)

  46. El Dato says:
    @jacques sheete

    Anarcho-tyranny has a more-or-less precise meaning. Look it up. It’s when the state comes down on you when you have written Bad Things on the Internet, meanwhile the guy with the 5 villas and the rolodex is bailed out when his bank burns, which is another way to say “you pay to remove any risk to his making money from you”.

    Wasn’t it Lew Rockwell who came up with it?

  47. Dube says:

    The video posted in position #1 above should be studied at 9:15, showing an assailant clubbing the trunk of Fields’ car at the left rear, prior to acceleration.

    I’m surprised that this is not routinely noted. Even Coulter appears unaware of it. But the scene has been online for almost a year.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  48. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Dube

    […] showing an assailant clubbing the trunk of Fields’ car at the left rear, prior to acceleration.

    I have studied and investigated that moment in detail, here:

    You can clearly hear the guy hit Fields’ car at about 16.5 sec into the Fox News Youtube video, and I am sure Fields might have perceived and heard that noise of the wooden flag pole hitting his car even more intensely inside the car, which quite possibly and naturally could have startled, distracted, and/or scared/angered him

    https://www.unz.com/article/anarchotyrannys-unequal-justice/#comment-2003714

    Video shows car crashing into Charlottesville protest

    Video Link

    [MORE]

    here:

    He definitely made impact. I commented on this with the following comment, which, incidentally, for whatever reason??, was also the comment which triggered one of the other commenters in the other comment thread so badly that he deemed me “human scum”

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-fat-heather-heyer-hoax/#comment-2006744

    and here:

    So even if Fields was only driving at a speed of 25 to 30 mph, as I suspect he did after I did my, admittedly, very rough distance measurements and (average) speed calculations, and was focused and calm, it would still take him up to 44 ft. to 66 ft. just to perceive and react, let alone initiate brake action, to any obstacles and people in his way, and he definitely, in my opinion, was not focused and calm in this situation, as most people can probably agree with, especially after his vehicle was loudly struck with that wooden flag pole.

    Two days ago, after I fully got into and somewhat obsessed about this investigation, I actually tested how much more or less loudly and intensely I would perceive the bumper of our car being struck from outside and then from inside the car.

    I, being outside the vehicle, hit the driver side back bumper of our car with a rubber mallet, just like it happened in Fields’ case, to see how intensely I would perceive and how loudly I would hear that noise. Then I sat in the driver seat inside the car with all windows and doors closed and had my wife strike the bumper with the rubber mallet, with same intensity and in the same location as I did before.

    I actually perceived the noise much more intensely and loudly inside the car than outside the car. I assume this is caused by the sound traveling through and being amplified by the car’s metal frame.

    Again, this is just my highly amateurish investigation of what could have happened during those few fateful and tragic moments on that day in Charlottesville. But I believe it is extremely important and worth it to look into and consider all of these details and possibilities, since so much is at stake, e.g., possibly the First Amendment.

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-fat-heather-heyer-hoax/#comment-2009435

  49. RudyM says:
    @crimson2

    Yes, it’s always the psychology of conspiracy theorists, rather than the psychology of cognitive conformity, isn’t it?

    I’m not impressed with dismissals of questions about the official narrative of events like Sandy Hook that rely on psychological analyses of their proponents and sweeping generalizations that don’t engage with specifics.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  50. Dannyboy says:
    @El Dato

    Sam Francis coined the term.

    “What we have in this country today, then, is both anarchy (the failure of the state to enforce the laws) and, at the same time, tyranny—the enforcement of laws by the state for oppressive purposes; the criminalization of the law-abiding and innocent through exorbitant taxation, bureaucratic regulation, the invasion of privacy, and the engineering of social institutions, such as the family and local schools; the imposition of thought control through “sensitivity training” and multiculturalist curricula, “hate crime” laws, gun-control laws that punish or disarm otherwise law-abiding citizens but have no impact on violent criminals who get guns illegally, and a vast labyrinth of other measures. In a word, anarcho-tyranny.”

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  51. fnn says:
    @El Dato

    No, it was Sam Francis.

  52. KenH says:
    @Crimson2

    Do you simple minded, bird brained leftists understand that there’s also video of Fields avoiding left wing nut job pedestrians on either side of the street up until the time he hit the car that hit the huffing, puffing and wheezing land whale named Heather Heyer? Then insane leftists began trying to smash the windows in an attempt to pull Fields out of the car while it was momentarily stopped forcing Fields to back up and get out of there to save his life, injuring worthless leftist street scum in the process.

    If he was really trying do harm to leftist street scum he would have channeled his inner Mohammed sooner and began mowing down all leftists in front of the car on either the left side or right side of the street. You just don’t like James Fields’s politics, so you hew to the fake narrative created by the left.

    If James Fields was an antifag and the victims were right wingers you and all the leftards would be whistling an entirely different tune and calling it self defense.

    • Replies: @Russ
    , @jack daniels
  53. Wally says:

    Considering collusion with and actual financing by the US govt., the notion that those who are banning free speech are somehow ‘private companies’ and not subject to constitutional free speech mandates is false.

    See:
    In A Corporatist System Of Government, Corporate Censorship Is State Censorship
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/08/no_author/in-a-corporatist-system-of-government-corporate-censorship-is-state-censorship/

    excerpts, see original for full text and numerous related links:

    [MORE]

    Last year, representatives of Facebook, Twitter, and Google were instructed on the US Senate floor that it is their responsibility to “quell information rebellions” and adopt a “mission statement” expressing their commitment to “prevent the fomenting of discord.”

    In a corporatist system of government, wherein there is no meaningful separation between corporate power and state power, corporate censorship is state censorship. Because legalized bribery in the form of corporate lobbying and campaign donations has given wealthy Americans the ability to control the U.S. government’s policy and behavior while ordinary Americans have no effective influence whatsoever, the U.S. unquestionably has a corporatist system of government. Large, influential corporations are inseparable from the state, so their use of censorship is inseparable from state censorship.

    This is especially true of the vast mega-corporations of Silicon Valley, whose extensive ties to U.S. intelligence agencies are well-documented. Once you’re assisting with the construction of the US military’s drone program, receiving grants from the CIA and NSA for mass surveillance, or having your site’s content regulated by NATO’s propaganda arm, you don’t get to pretend you’re a private, independent corporation that is separate from government power. It is possible in the current system to have a normal business worth a few million dollars, but if you want to get to billions of dollars in wealth control in a system where money translates directly to political power, you need to work with existing power structures like the CIA and the Pentagon, or else they’ll work with your competitors instead of you.

  54. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Jason Kessler
    ‏@TheMadDimension
    1 hour ago

    Good take from @NewRightAmerica #UTR2 #UniteTheRight2

    Unite the Right 2 Couldn’t Have Been Better
    Greg Johnson

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/08/unite-the-right-2-couldnt-have-been-better/ http://archive.is/z6yXD

    • Replies: @Anon
  55. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @FKA Max

    Yeah, a new math. Trigger-nometry.

  56. Russ says:
    @Mike Sylwester

    I seem to recall video of the car under attack, prior to the fatality. Such video, if it indeed exists, would be exonerative to at least a degree.

  57. Russ says:
    @KenH

    If he was really trying do harm to leftist street scum he would have channeled his inner Mohammed sooner and began mowing down all leftists in front of the car on either the left side or right side of the street.

    Verily. Bonus points for channeling inner Mohammed!

  58. @Crimson2

    I can’t confirm this, but over at The Daily Stormer, Weev is claiming that the Charlottesville march on the weekend was a troll. He goes into explicit detail of how it was done with the purpose being to goad a certain member of the town council into siccing Antifa on “neo Nazis” who never were going to show up. When the “Nazis” didn’t turn up, Antifa turned on the cops (and journalists) instead.

    Very interesting if true.

  59. @crimson2

    So no video huh?

    I’d like to see it myself just to know what really happened because some people say she was struck and killed by a car and others are saying that she died of a heart attack due to the heat, excitement and the fact that she was an obese heavy smoker.

    What did the coroner’s report say she died of? I’m not challenging you, I’d genuinely like to know.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
    , @jack daniels
  60. Tyrion 2 says:

    The sentences that people are facing are disgusting. The way the event was handled by the authorities was awful but the very sad truth is that Charlottesville was a very minor event. It is only being republished because it is a simple way to fill a schedule. I doubt most people will know what is was by this time next year.

    There’s an understandable but unrealistic sense if self-importance surrounding all of this.

  61. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Johnny Smoggins

    All the relevant info/evidence can be found here: https://www.unz.com/article/charlottesville-after-a-year/#comment-2463245

    Any Alt Right member who still claims that she was not hit by Fields’ car is a liability to and discrediting the movement, including weev, unfortunately. I saw/read him promoting the Heather-Heyer-heart-attack-as-only-cause-of-death meme/conspiracy theory today. She suffered a heart attack AFTER she was hit by Fields’ car. Not helpful. Not helpful, at all:

    Bellamy is personally responsible for all the chaos and misery that has been visited upon your city, including the spontaneous death of Heather Heyer by the heart attack that she suffered out of shock at seeing James Fields driving recklessly due to the panic he was in after being chased by a Communist terrorist with an assault rifle and having his car hit with a bat

    https://dailystormer.in/the-great-charlottesville-hack-of-2018-a-message-to-the-people-of-charlottesville/ Archived link: http://archive.is/kjMHV

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  62. Here’s the problem in a nutshell. White people are still a majority and still appear to be in charge, therefore complaining about ‘anti-white’ activism seems either petty or racist. The left knows how to exploit the natural concern of young people and idealists to atone for past racism. The reality of the squeeze on whites only appears clearly when you distinguish between Jewish and non-Jewish whites. For example, Harvard discriminates against non-Jewish whites, but until you are willing to make that distinction in print you can’t say so. There is also a lot of Jewish activism to “de-Christianize” the country which, again, cannot be honestly described for fear of being labeled anti-Semitic. In terms of electoral politics, the Dems rely on bloc voting by people of color to elect progressives who then carry out an anti-white and anti-Christian social agenda that does not reflect the attitudes of people of color. People of color vote Dem not because they favor gay marriage or oppose school prayer, but to get economic benefits that Republicans won’t give them. Meanwhile, Republicans promise to back the agenda of social conservatives but break that promise routinely to satisfy the big donors who are mostly Jews and oppose the agenda because it feels Christian. So the pro-white, pro-Christian cause is not being represented by either party, but you can’t explain how this works without making the forbidden distinction between Jew and gentile. In the absence of this distinction the pro-white side is forced to fall back on anti-black rhetoric that seems atavistic and mean-spirited and anti-Muslim rhetoric that plays into the hands of the Israel lobby. Even if the public did not condemn it as racist, the rhetoric would not get at the underlying dynamic we need to address. Electorally, it is important to wedge apart the economic and cultural motives of ethnic voters so that their reasonable desire for decent incomes doesn’t lead them to support cultural Marxism and open borders (which, of course, only hurts the employment and wage outlook for non-white citizens.)

    The only way to make “white advocacy” politically potent, unpleasant as it may be, is to introduce the distinction between Jewish and non-Jewish whites and the role in these issues played by Jewish groups and donors. This needn’t lead to Holocaust Denial or stereotyping or knee-jerk condemnation of Israel. Instead, introducing it in a frank, matter-of-fact, dryly sociological and fair-minded way would enable us to explain important cultural, political, and economic issues that can not be coherently stated or correctly analyzed otherwise. To be sure, discussing the Jewish angle would lead to being ACCUSED of hate and anti-Semitism, but what is more important is whether the accusation would be justified. You can’t have everything. Instead of attempting to avoid the accusation focus on how to ensure that when it is made it is without merit. That is the best you can do and seems preferable to simply avoiding the Jewish factor and trying to sell white nationalism with all its negative associations.

  63. @FKA Max

    Nope. None of those videos show Heather Heyer being struck. The woman rolling off the hood was on the driver’s side and she walked off. Heyer was on the sidewalk on the passenger side.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  64. @crimson2

    The problem is that the people at this site “question everything” for ideological reasons, but never question their own beliefs.

    I question that assertion, especially since it’s a generalization, and I’ve learned that such things are especially to be questioned.

    Anyone, I make it a point to routinely question my own beliefs; they are always subject to revision and refinement based on new (at least to me) credible evidence.

    Instead of changing their views, they use a web of logical fallacies, irrelevancies and broad misconceptions to change reality itself.

    That’s human nature for ya but I’m only aware of a few here who fit that description. They’re like idiot savants; sharp as tacks on one or two subjects, but dumber than a sack o’ rocks on most other things. Most of the commies and Zionist sympathizers are fine examples of your claims.

  65. @El Dato

    Thanks for that, El Dato, I did not know. However, my opinion still stands. It’s just plain tyranny, and that’s what we have in this huge cesspool. It’s just as you described.

    Anyway, whoever coined the term needs to revise it. It’s dumb because it unnecessarily smears anarchy. Corporate-mafia tyranny seems much more accurate.

  66. @Johnny Smoggins

    My impression is that she did have a heart attack but after Fields’ car struck her or else struck another car that was then pushed into her. I have not seen any film that shows what did or did not happen to Fields before he began accelerating up the street toward the line of counter-protesters. One can speculate that he was assaulted in his car by leftists but I haven’t heard that claimed by anyone with documentation.

    The incident occurred AFTER the state of emergency had been declared, so possibly there were provocations that affected his state of mind in an exculpatory way. Charlottesville has a lot of cameras downtown so it’s possible something interesting was picked up by one of them. I hope his lawyer gets testimony under oath regarding the existence of a photographic record.

    The city must share responsibility since instead of attempting to prevent violence the polixe acted to bring about violence in order to justify declaring a state of emergency and canceling the rally. So the city endangered Heather Heyer with the goal of preventing some people from exercising their right to assemble in Charlottesville. I’m not an attorney but this would seem to qualify as a “conspiracy to deprive of civil liberties”, a charge often used against the Klan back in the old days.

  67. @Dannyboy

    “What we have in this country today, then, is both anarchy (the failure of the state to enforce the laws)

    Thanks for that.

    Anyway, if he’s defining anarchy as the failure of the state to enforce the laws, then the dude is wide of the mark. It’s tyranny and that’s what the state invariably becomes if it didn’t start out that way. In other words, the state is typically a criminal organization and the laws are written to favor the bigwigs over us peons and peasants. There’s nothing anarchic and everything tyrannical about it.

    As defined, it seems to me a bonehead term.

  68. @El Dato

    Anarcho-tyranny has a more-or-less precise meaning. Look it up.

    I did look it up, and once again I must thank Mr Unz and his wonderful tools. I read enough of this to understand that while I agree with Francis’ indignation with our grotesquely sick government, it’s clear that he has a weird view of anarchy. He simply doesn’t know what it is.

    Anarcho-Tyranny, U.S.A.
    by Samuel Francis
    Chronicles, July 1994, pp. 14-18
    https://www.unz.com/print/Chronicles-1994jul-00014/

  69. @jack daniels

    That view of the war was the main one prior to the civil rights movement of the 60s.

    Call me Mr. Obtuse here, but which view was the main one? (It’s quite late and I’m dumber than usual. 😉 )

  70. FKA Max says: • Website
    @I_WAS_THERE

    You, obviously, have not investigated this case with any care at all

    Any Alt Right member who still claims that she was not hit by Fields’ car is a liability to and discrediting the movement […]

    https://www.unz.com/article/charlottesville-after-a-year/#comment-2464000

  71. @FKA Max

    Okay, so what did she die of exactly? I assume that when someone is fatally struck by a car they die of some kind of massive trauma to the head or body.

    What does the coroner’s report list as the official cause of death?

    • Replies: @APilgrim
    , @FKA Max
  72. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    Wow, from the WaPo

    Antifa protesters couldn’t find any fascists at Unite the Right — and harassed the press instead

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/13/antifa-protesters-couldnt-find-any-fascists-at-unite-the-right-and-harassed-the-press-instead/

  73. APilgrim says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Cause of Death, ‘Gross-Stupidity’.

    Blocking an escape route‘, in an anarchy.

    Do not block an evacuation route, in a RIOT.

  74. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Heather Heyer’s cause of death was blunt force injury to the chest, according to the Central District Office of the Chief Medical Examiner in Richmond.

    https://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/heather-heyer-s-cause-of-death-ruled-as-blunt-force/article_cf362edc-b2c6-11e7-bfa4-8749ed76aae2.html

  75. Fascinating how mainline religious organizations fellated the ADL donkey:
    more than 170 representatives of religious groups, including
    80 Jewish individuals/groups
    9 Unitarians
    8 Anglican Episcopal
    6 United Methodist
    5 Baptist
    4 Roman Catholic
    3 United Church of Christ
    2 Lutheran
    and a collection of Sikhs, Jains, Hindus, Muslims and Zoroastrians.
    among others, signed a letter in “solidarity” against the ANTICIPATED “Hate” of the UTR2 rally..

    ADL covered all the bases in garnering signatures to its
    CHARLOTTESVILLE ANNIVERSARY INTERFAITH SOLIDARITY DECLARATION

    http://dc.adl.org/charlottesville-anniversary-interfaith-solidarity-declaration/

    ADL is heavily invested in keeping alive the “Nazi” outrage of “Charlottesville.”

    Much of the chanting and many of the poster of the anti-UTR2 protesters involved expressions of hatred of “Nazis.”

    Begs the question: Why is ADL so invested in fanning “anti-Nazi” hatred? Isn’t that war over?

    An even bigger question: How did ADL induce leaders from almost all the major religious groups in the DC area to sign on to the ADL agenda?

    And even bigger than that question —

    Will all of those Christian leaders use the experiences and observations of the behavior of the protesters that they signed on to support to instruct their congregations and their young people in:

    – Will Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, Episcopal Diocese of Washington, Washington, DC, a highly skilled public speaker and trainer, explain when it is and is not appropriate to say “Fuck”?
    https://www.unz.com/video/ramzpaul_orwells-two-minutes/

    Video Link
    – Will Rev. Dr. Debra Haffner, Unitarian Universalist Church in Reston, Reston, VA, lead Sunday school children in replicating some of the anti-hate posters seen among protesters:

    “Get Out Nazi Trash”

    -Will Deacon Anne Derse at Chevy Chase’s St. John Norwood Episcopal Church patiently explain to that congregation’s young people the meaning of,
    “White Supremacy is a &%*$ stain in the moral fiber of society’s underwear”

    – How will Fr. Cortinovis, secretary to Roman Catholic Bishop Wuerl, who signed for the Catholic establishment in DC, explain the poster that bore the legend,
    “Give them a platform,”
    above the image of a guillotine?
    Does the Roman Catholic archdiocese endorse killing persons who speak out in public fora?

    Finally, will the 80 Jewish and 90 non-Jewish signers of the ADL letter follow up with a letter of thanks to ADL for drawing their congregations into solidarity with a mob so incensed that the intended target of its venom did not appear so it turned on policemen on horseback; on policemen wearing helmets and shields that concealed their faces; on journalists, and on the current administration of the USA?

    Or will they get down on their knees and beg for forgiveness, then get up on their feet, stiffen their spines, and disavow the strong-arm tactics of the ADL?

  76. Dube says:

    The question of who was struck by Fields’ car is distinct from the point that there was contribution by the assailant who attacked the car from the rear.

  77. KenH says:

    It was the Jewish mayor, black panther vice mayor and black police chief who, in deciding to “let them fight” so they could declare the UtR 1 protest unlawful, violated their oaths of office and the constitutional rights of the rallygoers and set off a chain of events that led to the James Fields incident. Had the Charlottesville police and VA state police simply done their jobs and provided safe passage to the UtR rallygoers then nobody would know who James Fields is and Heather Heyer would be merrily packing on more pounds by inhaling boxes of twinkies.

  78. CCZ says:
    @Mike Sylwester

    I have seen almost nothing in any media (your comments excepted) regarding the legal defense of James Fields, other than the appointment by the court of a private practice criminal defense attorney, Denise Lunsford. A web search regarding Ms. Lunsford finds that she has some controversial personal and political history in Charlottesville.

    Is Fields’ only legal representation from his court appointed attorney? Despite the overwhelming negative media portrayals of Fields, is he receiving any financial assistance for his legal defense? Unlike the Antifas, the alt-rights seem not to have organizations providing funds for legal defense, not even for something so basic as a “fair trial.”

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  79. eyeslevel says:

    Free speech and diversity are incompatible.

  80. APilgrim says:
    @CCZ

    The legal defense of James Fields would be obvious to a: 1st year law student, 2nd week, bottom of the class, lowest-ranked law school, in the USA.

    Self Defense
    Fleeing imminent danger
    State of Emergency
    General Anarchy

    Any rational jurist will dismiss the jury, & RULE ‘not guilty’, @ the 1st procedural opportunity.

  81. APilgrim says:

    Some judges will keep the jury & ‘direct’ them to find ‘Not Guilty’.

    Some will ‘instruct’ the jury, & let them find the obvious verdict. (If they ‘get it wrong’, the verdict is set aside, by the judge.

    Bad Judges are overturned on appeal.

  82. @KenH

    I’m afraid the only thing that will help Fields is to show Antifa was bashing at him BEFORE he drove into the crowd. Though the city of Charlottesville is complicit by deliberately creating a state of emergency so as to have an excuse to abort the rally.

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