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source: @oomfie420 on X
President Trump said that he intends to decide whether to remove legal protections for the 240k Ukrainian and Afghan refugees that were granted asylum under Biden. The number of Ukrainians who fled the war with Russia to America could be as high as 400k. Not only is Trump considering removing temporary protection status for Ukrainians, but he may also put them on the fast track for deportation. This potential decision is in stark contrast to my speculation that Trump may try to boost White immigration, considering his executive order regarding South Africa.
source: @Noahpinion on X
While Trump granting asylum to White Afrikaners from South Africa is groundbreaking symbolically, the numbers immigrating may very well be a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of non-White immigration and overall White decline. Say America welcomes 40k White Afrikaners, but Trump deports 150k Ukrainians; that ends up being a significant net loss for White demographics. Trump issued another declaration to grant South African farmers asylum with a rapid path to citizenship. However, he did not specify the race of the farmers. It is also unclear whether he plans to replace the existing executive order for Afrikaners or add to it.
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Trump was friendlier to Ukrainian refugees during his first term, with liberals even accusing him of favoring them over non-White refugees. However, it seems that Trump is punishing Ukrainians for being aligned with the Biden administration. Ukrainian Americans used to vote GOP for anti-communist reasons but swung Democrat recently due to the war. Thus, Trump views them as future Democrat voters. Trump and his supporters favor Afrikaners over Ukrainians, in part due to them being much more likely to support MAGA. It is plausible that White South Africans become a rightwing elite diaspora in America, comparable to Cubans.
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What is especially egregious is that Trump proposed deporting Ukrainians while he has hardly deported that many illegal immigrants. Not to mention that Trump has praised H1B visas. With Trump’s proposed gold card visas for wealthy foreigners who can cough up $5 million, the US might get some Europeans, Russians, or Australians, but it is more likely to be Chinese, Indian, and Gulf Arab oligarchs.
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The question is whether Trump will start aggressively deporting Ukrainians or let them stay but in legal limbo with some self deporting. It will be interesting to contrast the rates of deportation of Ukrainians with other groups of migrants, like Venezuelans and Haitians. It is also plausible that Trump backtracks, as he has not yet issued an executive order. If he does, there is a good chance it will be blocked by the Courts.
source: @realtimsharp on X
While leftists complained that Ukrainian refugees were shown favoritism for being White, a lot of MAGA types view Ukrainian refugees as no different than illegal immigrants from Latin America. Basically, the pro-White alt-right and center left Democrats support welcoming Ukrainians, while civic nationalist MAGA and anti-White leftists don’t. A lot of anti-immigrant MAGA types are desperate to prove they are not racist by also opposing White immigration. For instance, I predict that someone like Steve Bannon will say that it is good that Ukrainians are being deported because it opens up more job opportunities for US born Blacks and Latinos. Regardless, Ukrainians are genuine refugees fleeing war and not fake refugees like most of the economic migrants that Biden let in from Latin America.
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Online comments complain that recent Ukrainian immigrants have displaced Americans for housing and jobs in their communities, which is true with any large number of new immigrants. I’ve also heard stories online that a subset of Ukrainians are scamming refugee benefits to buy brand new Teslas and rent apartments in desirable areas while using food banks. Obviously, White people are not immune to that kind of low trust behavior you find in the Third World.
source: @GonkMcStronk on X
Certainly, recent Ukrainian immigrants are more clannish and have a fairly different culture than White Americans. I think Ukrainians who settle in majority White areas will assimilate within a generation or two, though it is harder to say with those who settle in places like LA or Chicago. Another reason Trump supporters prefer White South Africans to Ukrainians is that they are closer culturally to Americans, though Afrikaners can also be fairly clannish.
source: @Peter_Nimitz on X
There has been a lot of recent Ukrainian immigration to California, particularly to Sacramento but also to the Bay Area and LA. From what I’ve heard online and from friends in LA, recent Ukrainian immigrants are boosting the White population in working-class Latino areas in the San Fernando Valley, and Nouveau Riche Ukrainians and Russians are moving into the more affluent parts of the Valley. As a Californian, I see new Ukrainian immigrants as additional numbers for the dwindling White minority. However, I get why a White Red Stater might view Ukrainians as just another group of foreigners and not as kin, and how they might even prefer Foundational Black Americans over White foreigners.
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I attended a majority Latino public high school in West LA where the small handful of attractive White girls were mostly Eastern Europeans, alongside White adjacent types like Persians and Castizas, with a miniscule number of White Americans. Ukrainian women are known for their beauty, and Afrikaner women are too, with both ethnicities being overrepresented among models. However, the latter is less well known as Afrikaners are a smaller demographic, and South Africa doesn’t attract a passport bro culture like Ukraine. The joke from a lot of Trump supporting men was that he was going to import all these Eastern European models.
source: @billintheburbs on X
The recent wave of Ukrainian refugees under Biden was the only significant White immigration to the US since the fall of the Soviet Union. I also think Trump should try to brain drain Russia, which would undermine Putin’s regime. However, in the long term, there will be no major potential sources of White immigration to the US. If Trump deports Ukrainians, they are more likely to go to Canada or the EU than back to Ukraine. Regardless, it is especially cruel for Trump to cut off their asylum right when he stopped funding for Ukraine.
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It’s politics, they are not sentimental about Ukrainians or Boers. In South Africa’s case our government needs to be punished for BRICS and Israel, so minority rights is one of the issues they can use as excuse to cut aid and maybe do some economic damage to make a statement.
Who are these people who fled Ukraine? Were they in favor of Ukraine joining NATO? Were they in favor of bombing the Russian ethnic population in eastern Ukraine?
What is the religion of these Ukrainian refugees who fled? Was there favoritism given to certain people?
Here’s a thought. Just deport the pro-war Ukrainian refugees who’ve been protesting in favor of the Zelenski regime and against Russia. It seems that thousands of them hate Trump and are always protesting outside the White House. Many might even have wished that the foolish Ukraine-loving, Russia-hating White American who tried to assassinate Trump while he was playing golf last fall had been successful.
If these refugees love Zelenski so much, what in hell are they doing living in the US? What percentage are living off of welfare benefits? Shouldn’t they be willing to die for their country? Zelenski will even give them a free gun when they are sent to the front.
I want more whites in America. But the Ukrainians didn’t come here because they loved America. They came because there was a war, which may soon end.
Once the war ends, why shouldn’t they go back to their own country? Why should we have to pay for them to be here?
Let them go back to Ukraine. Once there, they can apply to immigrate through the normal process at a US embassy or consulate if they so desire.
If they do come back, they should have money or a job waiting for them so that we don’t have to support them.
With the white South African farmers, it’s a different story. The persecution they’re experiencing isn’t going to end anytime soon, if ever. And they have the farming skills to be self-supporting right away. Plus, they are culturally closer to us than the Ukrainians.
Ukrainians have been killing ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine. Do we really want white people who would so readily kill other white people?
America is already stained by white Americans killing other white Americans in the War of Northern Aggression.
Once that war was over, America lost its white identity, and it was only a matter of decades before the Jews took over. Well, at least we Americans haven’t elected a Jewish president. But the Ukrainians did …
I believe Trump makes a new and different threat every day of the week, tomorrow he will get his minerals deal and Ukrainians will be kosher again.
Because Trump is so pro Trump, it appears to some that he must then be pro white.
“Anti-white Trump”? Good grief what a joke. How do such political retards come to dominate the dissident right?
This was a damned stroke of genius. The precedent for sending war refugees back to their own countries when hostilities cease needs to be set, and now is the time. The absence of these Ukrainians would have been used as an excuse to import cheap non-White labor.
The Europeans will thank him for this one day.
The latest situation in Afghanistan is a result of the ineptitude of the Biden Administration. Not that I agree with the overall American policy that the US has had on Afghanistan -regardless of who was the President, but DT has to slow down a bit in regard to these Afghans and Ukrainians. You know that a portion of them will be involved in some kind of crime in the future. If caught, send their asses back. Not that either place was a paradise before the US & the West got involved, but now both are raging shit holes. One doesn’t really hear about Afghanistan today with all the nice shiny new weapons, tanks and Humvees that the American government left behind. Don’t be surprised that things will brew up between the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistan Taliban in Peshawar or against the Pakistani government itself. The only place I can think of getting better news on this issue is through Indian media, which I really haven”t followed up on.
Good comment. Except, I suggest that if they ever go back to the Ukraine once the war is over, and if they are patriots, they should stay there and help rebuild their war-shattered country. If they promise to be friends with Russia and never join NATO, Russia will even help them rebuild.
Ukrainians have caused a lot of trouble in the United States. Sam Blum, Jack Ruby, Abe Zapruder, and Arlen Specter ran the ground game in Dallas, the afternoon of President John F.Kennedy’s assassination. Then we go to Los Angeles and see Robert F. Kennedy being driven, by his friend John Frankenheimer, to the mobbed up Ambassador Hotel, where Mickey Cohen ran his enterprises where Menachem Begin, commander of the Irgun, and father of Global Terrorism received shelter and support. Then there is the failed assassination of President Trump. Notice the Vindman brothers: Alex who appeared before Congress with British agent Fiona Hill, attempted to single-handedly take control of US foreign policy from President Trump over the Ukraine disaster in the making. Eugene Vindman is inexplicably a Democratic Congressman, representing Virginia’s 7th congressional district. How did that happen? Eugene Vindman says ” Trump is focused on weaponizing the government and lying to intimidate and silence public servants like me and its not going to work. He’s dangerous and deeply disturbing.” doesn’t make sense. How many of these historical figures above are Ukrainian?
1.2 million Ukrainian soldiers are dead, killed in action. Nearly 7 million Ukrainians have left their country and will never return. nearly 4 million people ‘living’ in Ukraine are dislocated, homeless, etc. Who’s the monster, who’s responsible? People who come to this country, looking for perpetual support, physically, politically, to wreck the America they found should be noticed and deported as a matter of national security. Was Emma Goldman Ukrainian? I think Adrien Brody is. Brody is the name of a Ukrainian village along the Russian border. There’s a good case for deporting the Ukrainians and certainly marginalizing the political activities and privileges of people like the Vindman brothers, who could be/should be included with those being deported as well.