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For those interested, here’s my most recent piece, prompted by the six month anniversary of the Israel/Gaza conflict and arguing that the enormous new scrutiny that Israel has been receiving may be the most important lasting consequence of these events, potentially very damaging for the future of the Jewish state:

Although my piece appeared before the latest round of Israel-Iran military exchanges, I’d strongly recommend this interview of Col. Douglas Macgregor:


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• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: Gaza, Israel/Palestine, Russia, Ukraine 
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  1. The ability to tacitly threaten the US that if it doesn’t help Israel in any extremity then “we will have to use nuclear weapons” is the entire intended purpose of Israel having nukes. American conventional might is Israel’s real weapon of last resort.

    • Agree: Not Raul, Not Raul
  2. A123 says: • Website

    Housing costs in the U.S. are out of control. (1)

    Middle Class Can’t Afford Homes In Nearly
    Half Of Top 100 US Metros, Study Finds

    In total, 41 out of the 100 metros require a gross annual income of $100,000 or more to qualify for an average home. In 13 metros, an average income of more than $155,000 is needed.

    Being considered “middle class” doesn’t carry the same significance as it did just a few years ago.

    “In the past, if you were middle class, it was almost assumed you would become a homeowner,” said Ali Wolf, chief economist of Zonda, a housing market research firm.

    “Today, the aspiration is still there, but it is a lot more difficult. You have to be wealthy or lucky.”

    That’s all thanks to a “perfect storm” of elevated mortgage rates, sky-high home prices, and a lack of inventory, making housing more unaffordable.

    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/middle-class-cant-afford-homes-nearly-half-top-100-us-metros-study-finds

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123


    ...Middle Class Can’t Afford Homes In Nearly Half Of Top 100 US Metros
     
    They are not really Middle Class, no matter how desperately they try to tell it to themselves. Renters are a dependent lower class - always have been and always will be.

    US has a housing pyramid scheme: easy riches for the elderly boomers and high rents for the young. Unlimited migrants keep it going: they add to demand for housing and lower incomes for the younger workers. It applies also to the better jobs, if 100 Indians migrate to US the native Americans will make less, even engineers and nurses. It is just math.

    All pyramid schemes inevitably collapse. The short interlude of close to zero interest rates can be only done so often - the money people want money to make money, they won't give it up for nothing.

    Canada, UK, Australia are about the same or even worse. What is it about the Anglos that greed and selfishness by the elderly triumphs everything else?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Wokechoke
    @A123

    You hav to wait for a relative to die to get the lump sum.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @John Johnson
    @A123

    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    And what is the Republican solution? Crack down on Wall Street?

    Let's hear the Republican solution to high housing costs:
    (crickets)

    The MAGA leader of the House just wrote Israel a check for 26 billion even though they have a budget surplus.

    Trump is currently in court over trying to pay off a porn star. He somehow couldn't do it without committing fraud. We haven't even gotten to the docs case and he is already flipping his lid.

    This would be a great time to take off the red hat and find a new hobby.

    It isn't going to get easier defending this NYC real estate con who was a Democrat most of his life. He not only supports globalist bankers but seems to think he should be allowed to commit fraud when dealing with them.

    Replies: @Negronicus, @Derer

    , @Solutions
    @A123

    And the venture capital REIT company's want to buy up all the current homeowners homes so they can drive up rents in a new feudal land baron / peasant system, God bless America!

  3. There is an argument to be made that the new AI chatbots are useless for the most useful people. I will make this argument because (subjectively!) I am the most useful person that I know and I find them utterly useless.

    True Fact: google search results are user-dependent. When you type into the search bar the program returns what it predicts you are searching for. What you get and what I get are two different things, perhaps even completely totally different.

    Observation: the highest status enthusiasts for the new AI’s all seem to have one commonality. The highest benefit, or at the very least one of the highest benefits, is they can search the web again which they haven’t been able to do for years their google search engine is so fubar’d.

    My google search engine is not fubar’d. I can almost always quickly find what I am looking for.

    I am reminded of Bruce Schneier’s talk at google where he began by telling the nerds in the room:

    We all watch Game of Thrones
    Google knows what everybody’s favorite porno is

    True fact: I have never seen an episode of Game of Thrones. I have seen two minute clips here or there so I do have some idea of what I am missing but I really do not know what all the fuss was about. When whats-her-face went Darth Vader some of the subsequent internet caterwauling was amusing. That’s about all I know about Game of Thrones.

    Also a true fact: I have never used google search to look for porn.

    So I guess Bruce Schneier wasn’t talking to me.

    Feel free to presume I never ever search for anything you would find useful!

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Brave Ai is decent.

    https://twitter.com/frontiervitalsm/status/1781678962697265260

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Dhanna

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

    , @Philip Owen
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My work account delivers very different results from my private account as I keep strong boundaries. I even have a household account which delivers DIY advice on cars and house repairs. The way Google dovetails with YouTube and your locations (I take all cookies and allow Google to track my location) can be uncanny or farcical. So far as I know, it doesn't know what I buy at the Chemist but it knows I've been there and not the Newsagent.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

  4. @A123
    Housing costs in the U.S. are out of control. (1)

    Middle Class Can't Afford Homes In Nearly
    Half Of Top 100 US Metros, Study Finds

     

    In total, 41 out of the 100 metros require a gross annual income of $100,000 or more to qualify for an average home. In 13 metros, an average income of more than $155,000 is needed.
    ...
    Being considered “middle class” doesn’t carry the same significance as it did just a few years ago.

    “In the past, if you were middle class, it was almost assumed you would become a homeowner,” said Ali Wolf, chief economist of Zonda, a housing market research firm.

    “Today, the aspiration is still there, but it is a lot more difficult. You have to be wealthy or lucky.”

    That's all thanks to a “perfect storm” of elevated mortgage rates, sky-high home prices, and a lack of inventory, making housing more unaffordable.
     
    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/middle-class-cant-afford-homes-nearly-half-top-100-us-metros-study-finds

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson, @Solutions

    …Middle Class Can’t Afford Homes In Nearly Half Of Top 100 US Metros

    They are not really Middle Class, no matter how desperately they try to tell it to themselves. Renters are a dependent lower class – always have been and always will be.

    US has a housing pyramid scheme: easy riches for the elderly boomers and high rents for the young. Unlimited migrants keep it going: they add to demand for housing and lower incomes for the younger workers. It applies also to the better jobs, if 100 Indians migrate to US the native Americans will make less, even engineers and nurses. It is just math.

    All pyramid schemes inevitably collapse. The short interlude of close to zero interest rates can be only done so often – the money people want money to make money, they won’t give it up for nothing.

    Canada, UK, Australia are about the same or even worse. What is it about the Anglos that greed and selfishness by the elderly triumphs everything else?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Beckow

    " What is it about the Anglos that greed and selfishness by the elderly triumphs everything else?"

    It's not the elderly who've sent housing through the roof. It's open borders plus easy credit/low interest rates/the rich buying as landlords.

    Replies: @Ennui

    , @QCIC
    @Beckow

    I agree with this, though the USA used to be different since there was an upwardly mobile path to the middle class which often included buying a house.

    I think one feature of this earlier housing ownership-based model is that it was less class-centric.

    The core value of the house was lost once the family had been wrecked by other causes.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    Eastern Europe has much less immigration. Is it working out much better for them relative to the Anglosphere?

    Replies: @Beckow

  5. @A123
    Housing costs in the U.S. are out of control. (1)

    Middle Class Can't Afford Homes In Nearly
    Half Of Top 100 US Metros, Study Finds

     

    In total, 41 out of the 100 metros require a gross annual income of $100,000 or more to qualify for an average home. In 13 metros, an average income of more than $155,000 is needed.
    ...
    Being considered “middle class” doesn’t carry the same significance as it did just a few years ago.

    “In the past, if you were middle class, it was almost assumed you would become a homeowner,” said Ali Wolf, chief economist of Zonda, a housing market research firm.

    “Today, the aspiration is still there, but it is a lot more difficult. You have to be wealthy or lucky.”

    That's all thanks to a “perfect storm” of elevated mortgage rates, sky-high home prices, and a lack of inventory, making housing more unaffordable.
     
    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/middle-class-cant-afford-homes-nearly-half-top-100-us-metros-study-finds

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson, @Solutions

    You hav to wait for a relative to die to get the lump sum.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    You hav to wait for a relative to die to get the lump sum.
     
    You can help the relative to transition to a better world. Many people do.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ

  6. So the vindictive U.S criminal elite have decided to steal Russian assets it holds and hand them to Ukraine…its time the Russians handed the Houthis the capability to send a few ships to the bottom that the U.S own…that should eat into the benifit of the theft.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mr_Chow_Mein


    So the vindictive U.S criminal elite have decided to steal Russian assets it holds and hand them to Ukraine…
     
    This is called theft in every criminal code that ever existed. The US congress just decided that there is no law but the law of the jungle. Not just Russia, but the rest of the world (excluding imperial cocksuckers, who are the rulers but not the population of countries on the imperial patch) will act accordingly. The US businesses will lose a lot more than the US government steals. However, this was done to enrich the MIC, other businesses do not give as much kickbacks to “lawmakers”.

    Only a total idiot would upset the roost where it is on top. The idiot just did.
    , @A123
    @Mr_Chow_Mein


    its time the Russians handed the Houthis the capability to send a few ships to the bottom that the U.S own…that should eat into the [benefit] of the theft.
     
    The U.S. doesn't own a commercial fleet that transits the Indian Ocean. Its vessels travel almost exclusively to/from U.S. ports under the Jones Act.

    They are run by anti-American, SJW Globalist multinationals that ship in goods to suppress the wages of Christian workers. Supplying weapons to the Houthi will result in CCP goods being more expensive as they have to take the long route or bear high insurance expense.

    Make Christian European
          Workers Stronger!
        Arm the Houthi Now!

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr_Chow_Mein

  7. @Beckow
    @A123


    ...Middle Class Can’t Afford Homes In Nearly Half Of Top 100 US Metros
     
    They are not really Middle Class, no matter how desperately they try to tell it to themselves. Renters are a dependent lower class - always have been and always will be.

    US has a housing pyramid scheme: easy riches for the elderly boomers and high rents for the young. Unlimited migrants keep it going: they add to demand for housing and lower incomes for the younger workers. It applies also to the better jobs, if 100 Indians migrate to US the native Americans will make less, even engineers and nurses. It is just math.

    All pyramid schemes inevitably collapse. The short interlude of close to zero interest rates can be only done so often - the money people want money to make money, they won't give it up for nothing.

    Canada, UK, Australia are about the same or even worse. What is it about the Anglos that greed and selfishness by the elderly triumphs everything else?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    ” What is it about the Anglos that greed and selfishness by the elderly triumphs everything else?”

    It’s not the elderly who’ve sent housing through the roof. It’s open borders plus easy credit/low interest rates/the rich buying as landlords.

    • Replies: @Ennui
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Huh, guess the elderly shouldn't have voted for politicians that enable those conditions you mentioned.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  8. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Beckow

    " What is it about the Anglos that greed and selfishness by the elderly triumphs everything else?"

    It's not the elderly who've sent housing through the roof. It's open borders plus easy credit/low interest rates/the rich buying as landlords.

    Replies: @Ennui

    Huh, guess the elderly shouldn’t have voted for politicians that enable those conditions you mentioned.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Ennui

    I've heard that all adults can vote, not just the elderly.

    Open borders enablers tend to be young.

    Replies: @Ennui

  9. @Mr_Chow_Mein
    So the vindictive U.S criminal elite have decided to steal Russian assets it holds and hand them to Ukraine...its time the Russians handed the Houthis the capability to send a few ships to the bottom that the U.S own...that should eat into the benifit of the theft.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123

    So the vindictive U.S criminal elite have decided to steal Russian assets it holds and hand them to Ukraine…

    This is called theft in every criminal code that ever existed. The US congress just decided that there is no law but the law of the jungle. Not just Russia, but the rest of the world (excluding imperial cocksuckers, who are the rulers but not the population of countries on the imperial patch) will act accordingly. The US businesses will lose a lot more than the US government steals. However, this was done to enrich the MIC, other businesses do not give as much kickbacks to “lawmakers”.

    Only a total idiot would upset the roost where it is on top. The idiot just did.

  10. @Wokechoke
    @A123

    You hav to wait for a relative to die to get the lump sum.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    You hav to wait for a relative to die to get the lump sum.

    You can help the relative to transition to a better world. Many people do.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    The day of the pillow.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN

    Classical Sovok thinking. :(

  11. @Mr_Chow_Mein
    So the vindictive U.S criminal elite have decided to steal Russian assets it holds and hand them to Ukraine...its time the Russians handed the Houthis the capability to send a few ships to the bottom that the U.S own...that should eat into the benifit of the theft.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123

    its time the Russians handed the Houthis the capability to send a few ships to the bottom that the U.S own…that should eat into the [benefit] of the theft.

    The U.S. doesn’t own a commercial fleet that transits the Indian Ocean. Its vessels travel almost exclusively to/from U.S. ports under the Jones Act.

    They are run by anti-American, SJW Globalist multinationals that ship in goods to suppress the wages of Christian workers. Supplying weapons to the Houthi will result in CCP goods being more expensive as they have to take the long route or bear high insurance expense.

    Make Christian European
          Workers Stronger!
        Arm the Houthi Now!

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr_Chow_Mein
    @A123

    There are military ships in the area, they may be out of reach of the Houthis...send one of those expensive bit of kit to Davey Jones locker and the U.S will probably invade...but they will anyway, sooner or later. It's best to chose the timing of war yourself and not let the U.S do so.

    Hows that jetty in Palestine going? I suggest its a crossing into the next world the U.S criminals are building for the Palestinians.

    Remember whatever the "elite" criminals are doing in the wider world its in the U.S goys' name they're doing it, the Zionist are just steering the effort to their advantage.

    Replies: @A123

  12. @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    You hav to wait for a relative to die to get the lump sum.
     
    You can help the relative to transition to a better world. Many people do.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ

    The day of the pillow.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    You guys are dark. How often do you think this happens?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  13. @Ennui
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Huh, guess the elderly shouldn't have voted for politicians that enable those conditions you mentioned.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I’ve heard that all adults can vote, not just the elderly.

    Open borders enablers tend to be young.

    • Replies: @Ennui
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Jimmy "Cuban Boat Lift" Carter, Ronald "A." Reagan, I'll let you look into what Gerald Ford did vis-a-vis Southeast Asia.

    Emanuel Cellar didn't die yesterday, nor did Phil Hart. Somebody must voted for them and for everybody who voted for their bill. Not some zoomers, I promise you.

    The elderly and their parents made the world those poor, confused zoomers live in. Easy, and weasily, to blame the young.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  14. Wikipedia spends less than 5% of its donations on servers, while constantly throwing fundraising banners in your face. This would be a good place to exile the people responsible, including that Maher witch. They can make a game of trying to catch goats with their bare hands.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Crusoe_Island

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/04/the-wikipedia-fundraising-scam/

  15. @Beckow
    @A123


    ...Middle Class Can’t Afford Homes In Nearly Half Of Top 100 US Metros
     
    They are not really Middle Class, no matter how desperately they try to tell it to themselves. Renters are a dependent lower class - always have been and always will be.

    US has a housing pyramid scheme: easy riches for the elderly boomers and high rents for the young. Unlimited migrants keep it going: they add to demand for housing and lower incomes for the younger workers. It applies also to the better jobs, if 100 Indians migrate to US the native Americans will make less, even engineers and nurses. It is just math.

    All pyramid schemes inevitably collapse. The short interlude of close to zero interest rates can be only done so often - the money people want money to make money, they won't give it up for nothing.

    Canada, UK, Australia are about the same or even worse. What is it about the Anglos that greed and selfishness by the elderly triumphs everything else?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    I agree with this, though the USA used to be different since there was an upwardly mobile path to the middle class which often included buying a house.

    I think one feature of this earlier housing ownership-based model is that it was less class-centric.

    The core value of the house was lost once the family had been wrecked by other causes.

  16. Did anyone see how much of the 61 billion is going to Palestine to help them to eat…and build the basics?

    This package proves where evil resides in the world…and worms like Johnson sit on the right ,or in the devil’s empire the left, of the devil.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr_Chow_Mein

    https://original.antiwar.com/David_Stockman/2024/04/19/speaker-johnsons-ignominious-betrayal/

    https://libertarianinstitute.org/news/new-amendment-would-force-reps-who-support-ukraine-aid-to-join-kievs-military/

  17. @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    The day of the pillow.

    Replies: @QCIC

    You guys are dark. How often do you think this happens?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Have you read about the English aristocracy?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  18. @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    You guys are dark. How often do you think this happens?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Have you read about the English aristocracy?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wokechoke

    I don't think a vast number of Brits are suffocating granny to get the house (except for a few of our New Brits).

    But the use of "Do Not Resuscitate" plans in hospitals and the constant drumbeat of promotion for Dignitas and "assisted dying" (what a euphemism) will have its effect, even on those with no wish to die.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13316295/Retired-nurse-died-hospital-staff-mixed-notes-Not-Resucitate-notice-90-year-old-man.html


    A retired nurse died after hospital staff mixed her up with a patient on a 'Do Not Resuscitate' notice.

    Pat Dawson, 73, was fit and healthy and had had no medical treatment in 30 years before suffering a suspected bowel obstruction, her family told an inquest.

    The widow and grandmother was taken to Royal Blackburn Hospital by ambulance but died after she collapsed and staff stopped attempts to resuscitate her following a look at 'her' notes.

    By the time medics realised that a mix-up had left them reading a DNR report relating to a 90-year-old man, it was too late to save her.

    The inquest heard that staff failed to check the NHS number on Mrs Dawson's wristband or even the gender and age on the notes.

    Emergency consultant Ahmad Alabood called the tragedy an 'honest mistake because [staff] were rushing' when the unit was 'over-stretched and over-crowded'.

     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Wokechoke

  19. Does the Sikh have any crazy bumperstickers on his vehicle to discourage cartheft?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    "I'm Sikh! I know how to make thieves Sikh!"

    , @Negronicus
    @songbird

    "I have a knife in my hat!"

  20. @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    You hav to wait for a relative to die to get the lump sum.
     
    You can help the relative to transition to a better world. Many people do.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ

    Classical Sovok thinking. 🙁

  21. @Beckow
    @A123


    ...Middle Class Can’t Afford Homes In Nearly Half Of Top 100 US Metros
     
    They are not really Middle Class, no matter how desperately they try to tell it to themselves. Renters are a dependent lower class - always have been and always will be.

    US has a housing pyramid scheme: easy riches for the elderly boomers and high rents for the young. Unlimited migrants keep it going: they add to demand for housing and lower incomes for the younger workers. It applies also to the better jobs, if 100 Indians migrate to US the native Americans will make less, even engineers and nurses. It is just math.

    All pyramid schemes inevitably collapse. The short interlude of close to zero interest rates can be only done so often - the money people want money to make money, they won't give it up for nothing.

    Canada, UK, Australia are about the same or even worse. What is it about the Anglos that greed and selfishness by the elderly triumphs everything else?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    Eastern Europe has much less immigration. Is it working out much better for them relative to the Anglosphere?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ


    ...Eastern Europe has much less immigration. Is it working out much better for them relative to the Anglosphere?
     
    The Central-Eastern Europe is a collection of dependencies - some more independent, some less. Similar to Latin America in the past, even now. Or the way France sees Western Africa.

    The east has been where most of the wars and massive destruction happened in the last 200 years. Many of the Western pathologies were recently imported, but we are in the early stages and large parts of the West are in the end-state. Beginnings are always easy - for any system. We are still enjoying the early phase...:)

  22. @songbird
    Does the Sikh have any crazy bumperstickers on his vehicle to discourage cartheft?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Negronicus

    “I’m Sikh! I know how to make thieves Sikh!”

  23. @Emil Nikola Richard
    There is an argument to be made that the new AI chatbots are useless for the most useful people. I will make this argument because (subjectively!) I am the most useful person that I know and I find them utterly useless.

    True Fact: google search results are user-dependent. When you type into the search bar the program returns what it predicts you are searching for. What you get and what I get are two different things, perhaps even completely totally different.

    Observation: the highest status enthusiasts for the new AI's all seem to have one commonality. The highest benefit, or at the very least one of the highest benefits, is they can search the web again which they haven't been able to do for years their google search engine is so fubar'd.

    My google search engine is not fubar'd. I can almost always quickly find what I am looking for.

    I am reminded of Bruce Schneier's talk at google where he began by telling the nerds in the room:

    We all watch Game of Thrones
    Google knows what everybody's favorite porno is

    True fact: I have never seen an episode of Game of Thrones. I have seen two minute clips here or there so I do have some idea of what I am missing but I really do not know what all the fuss was about. When whats-her-face went Darth Vader some of the subsequent internet caterwauling was amusing. That's about all I know about Game of Thrones.

    Also a true fact: I have never used google search to look for porn.

    So I guess Bruce Schneier wasn't talking to me.

    Feel free to presume I never ever search for anything you would find useful!

    Replies: @Sher Singh, @Philip Owen

    Brave Ai is decent.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Dhanna

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

  24. Cases such as this are why adults’ guns should NOT be easily accessible to kids:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/10-year-old-allegedly-confesses-to-randomly-killing-stranger-when-he-was-7?ref=scroll

    Being a cold-blooded murderer at just the age of seven! Amazing!

  25. @A123
    @Mr_Chow_Mein


    its time the Russians handed the Houthis the capability to send a few ships to the bottom that the U.S own…that should eat into the [benefit] of the theft.
     
    The U.S. doesn't own a commercial fleet that transits the Indian Ocean. Its vessels travel almost exclusively to/from U.S. ports under the Jones Act.

    They are run by anti-American, SJW Globalist multinationals that ship in goods to suppress the wages of Christian workers. Supplying weapons to the Houthi will result in CCP goods being more expensive as they have to take the long route or bear high insurance expense.

    Make Christian European
          Workers Stronger!
        Arm the Houthi Now!

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr_Chow_Mein

    There are military ships in the area, they may be out of reach of the Houthis…send one of those expensive bit of kit to Davey Jones locker and the U.S will probably invade…but they will anyway, sooner or later. It’s best to chose the timing of war yourself and not let the U.S do so.

    Hows that jetty in Palestine going? I suggest its a crossing into the next world the U.S criminals are building for the Palestinians.

    Remember whatever the “elite” criminals are doing in the wider world its in the U.S goys’ name they’re doing it, the Zionist are just steering the effort to their advantage.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr_Chow_Mein


    Hows that jetty in Palestine going? I suggest its a crossing into the next world the U.S criminals are building for the Palestinians.
     
    Do you mean anti-Semite Biden's pier to rearm Hamas colonial forces?

    Its availability date is not growing any closer (1)

    The Pentagon's self-imposed deadline of having the pier operational and delivering the needed aid by May rapidly approaches, and experts say there are other delays and problems cropping up with the mission.

    The USNS 2nd Lt. John P. Bobo "experienced a fire in the engine room while in transit to the eastern Mediterranean Sea" on April 11, and while the crew evacuated the area and used portable extinguishers to put out the fire, the ship had to return to Jacksonville, Florida, using just one engine, "for further assessment," according to a Navy statement provided Wednesday.

    Sal Mercogliano, an academic and shipping expert, noted to Military.com on Wednesday that one of the Army Landing Craft Utility ships, the Wilson Wharf, seems to be stuck in Tenerife -- a small island that is part of the Canary Islands cluster off the west coast of Africa. Plus, the Army's Logistics Support Vessel General Frank S. Besson spent a week in the Azores before finally making it to the Navy's base at Souda Bay in Greece.

    Mercogliano said such a long stay may indicate the ship had an engineering issue.

    A retired Army chief warrant officer who has significant experience in the Army's watercraft community also told Military.com in an interview Wednesday that "if those boats don't have multiple major mechanical failures -- I mean 'dead in the water' mechanical failures -- I will be shocked."

    "They're horrendously maintained. I've got videos of these things falling apart," the retired officer added.
     
    Other Atlantic theatre vessels that could be of use are stuck in Baltimore on the wrong side of the Francis Scott Key bridge collapse.

    It is almost as if God is intervening to thwart the Veggie-In-Chief's efforts to help Islamic aggression.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/04/17/navy-ship-slated-help-build-gaza-aid-pier-forced-return-port-experts-warn-of-other-delays.html
  26. Speaker Johnson came through after dragging his feet for months. Money for ATACMS and more

    Play both videos but with the first on mute.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Enough with the dancing!

    I prefer this version of the song, which coincidentally is by a band named after the Ukie namesake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE5h5sxny88

    If you need the visual distraction this song is in the Stallone movie "Driven" which has a fun car bit near the beginning. Might be his least bad movie among the few I have seen. Also has Gina Gershon as a dyke playing a hottie or was it a tranny playing a dyke? I lost track.

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't recommend standing near the ATACMS launchers.

    Even the schoolyard placement won't save you now.

    , @LatW
    @John Johnson

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/45/a9/e045a9b20a96855f33627a635524b509.jpg

  27. @A123
    Housing costs in the U.S. are out of control. (1)

    Middle Class Can't Afford Homes In Nearly
    Half Of Top 100 US Metros, Study Finds

     

    In total, 41 out of the 100 metros require a gross annual income of $100,000 or more to qualify for an average home. In 13 metros, an average income of more than $155,000 is needed.
    ...
    Being considered “middle class” doesn’t carry the same significance as it did just a few years ago.

    “In the past, if you were middle class, it was almost assumed you would become a homeowner,” said Ali Wolf, chief economist of Zonda, a housing market research firm.

    “Today, the aspiration is still there, but it is a lot more difficult. You have to be wealthy or lucky.”

    That's all thanks to a “perfect storm” of elevated mortgage rates, sky-high home prices, and a lack of inventory, making housing more unaffordable.
     
    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/middle-class-cant-afford-homes-nearly-half-top-100-us-metros-study-finds

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson, @Solutions

    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    And what is the Republican solution? Crack down on Wall Street?

    Let’s hear the Republican solution to high housing costs:
    (crickets)

    The MAGA leader of the House just wrote Israel a check for 26 billion even though they have a budget surplus.

    Trump is currently in court over trying to pay off a porn star. He somehow couldn’t do it without committing fraud. We haven’t even gotten to the docs case and he is already flipping his lid.

    This would be a great time to take off the red hat and find a new hobby.

    It isn’t going to get easier defending this NYC real estate con who was a Democrat most of his life. He not only supports globalist bankers but seems to think he should be allowed to commit fraud when dealing with them.

    • Replies: @Negronicus
    @John Johnson


    Trump is currently in court over trying to pay off a porn star.

     

    Be known as blackmale.

    He somehow couldn’t do it without committing fraud.

     

    The Man always tryna keep a nigga down.
    , @Derer
    @John Johnson

    The DNC is a criminal entity going berserk after Trump and his supporters. They are going out of the realm of civilized political opposition of an adversary and resorting to dishonesty and criminality. The DNC huge appetite for power is never matched by their nonexistent accomplishments.

    Trump is a threat to their sovereign political reign. He was twice impeached by concocted schemes and in fact, in one case, for asking investigating Biden corruption and nepotism in Ukraine. Ironically VP Biden's withholding the US aid to Ukraine if the investigator of Burisma is not fired, despite being documented, was ignored for impeachment - pathetic.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  28. @John Johnson
    Speaker Johnson came through after dragging his feet for months. Money for ATACMS and more

    https://youtu.be/CuaFprs4VEk?t=326


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAlwoAflWrM&list=RDGAlwoAflWrM&start_radio=1

    Play both videos but with the first on mute.

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC, @LatW

    Enough with the dancing!

    I prefer this version of the song, which coincidentally is by a band named after the Ukie namesake.

    [MORE]

    If you need the visual distraction this song is in the Stallone movie “Driven” which has a fun car bit near the beginning. Might be his least bad movie among the few I have seen. Also has Gina Gershon as a dyke playing a hottie or was it a tranny playing a dyke? I lost track.

  29. @John Johnson
    Speaker Johnson came through after dragging his feet for months. Money for ATACMS and more

    https://youtu.be/CuaFprs4VEk?t=326


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAlwoAflWrM&list=RDGAlwoAflWrM&start_radio=1

    Play both videos but with the first on mute.

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC, @LatW

    I don’t recommend standing near the ATACMS launchers.

    Even the schoolyard placement won’t save you now.

  30. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Ennui

    I've heard that all adults can vote, not just the elderly.

    Open borders enablers tend to be young.

    Replies: @Ennui

    Jimmy “Cuban Boat Lift” Carter, Ronald “A.” Reagan, I’ll let you look into what Gerald Ford did vis-a-vis Southeast Asia.

    Emanuel Cellar didn’t die yesterday, nor did Phil Hart. Somebody must voted for them and for everybody who voted for their bill. Not some zoomers, I promise you.

    The elderly and their parents made the world those poor, confused zoomers live in. Easy, and weasily, to blame the young.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Ennui

    "Blame" is not the thing - the 1965 boomers were told that the Hart-Cellar act wouldn't change US demographics.

    Young people in UK and US are taught that their forebears were awful racists, and all the black people they see on TV are carefully curated for their pleasant demeanour. But the boomers don't run TV and Hollywood, do they now?

    Replies: @Ennui

  31. Referring to the sidebar, I didn’t realize Anatoly was on the Hanah Barron train. I would say there was hope for him, but maybe her very existence fried his brain and maybe his soul.

    Hannah seems like a nice girl, nonetheless I believe this is her song. It came after the death of innuendo and they really spell it out at 0:33:

  32. @Mr_Chow_Mein
    Did anyone see how much of the 61 billion is going to Palestine to help them to eat...and build the basics?

    This package proves where evil resides in the world...and worms like Johnson sit on the right ,or in the devil's empire the left, of the devil.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  33. Alexander Motyl’s latest delusional pro-Kiev regime babble:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4597442-j-d-vance-is-dead-wrong-about-ukraine-aid/

    He fails to factually refute JD Vance’s practical assessment of the Russia-Kiev regime/NATO proxy war:

    https://www.vance.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/4.16.2024-Vance-Weapons-Shortages.pdf

    Since 2/24/22, Russia has gotten militarily stronger unlike the Kiev regime, which is noticeably weaker. Economically and politically, Russia is more stable than the Kiev regime and its Western backers.

  34. @John Johnson
    Speaker Johnson came through after dragging his feet for months. Money for ATACMS and more

    https://youtu.be/CuaFprs4VEk?t=326


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAlwoAflWrM&list=RDGAlwoAflWrM&start_radio=1

    Play both videos but with the first on mute.

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC, @LatW

  35. @songbird
    Does the Sikh have any crazy bumperstickers on his vehicle to discourage cartheft?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Negronicus

    “I have a knife in my hat!”

    • LOL: QCIC
  36. @John Johnson
    @A123

    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    And what is the Republican solution? Crack down on Wall Street?

    Let's hear the Republican solution to high housing costs:
    (crickets)

    The MAGA leader of the House just wrote Israel a check for 26 billion even though they have a budget surplus.

    Trump is currently in court over trying to pay off a porn star. He somehow couldn't do it without committing fraud. We haven't even gotten to the docs case and he is already flipping his lid.

    This would be a great time to take off the red hat and find a new hobby.

    It isn't going to get easier defending this NYC real estate con who was a Democrat most of his life. He not only supports globalist bankers but seems to think he should be allowed to commit fraud when dealing with them.

    Replies: @Negronicus, @Derer

    Trump is currently in court over trying to pay off a porn star.

    Be known as blackmale.

    He somehow couldn’t do it without committing fraud.

    The Man always tryna keep a nigga down.

  37. @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Have you read about the English aristocracy?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I don’t think a vast number of Brits are suffocating granny to get the house (except for a few of our New Brits).

    But the use of “Do Not Resuscitate” plans in hospitals and the constant drumbeat of promotion for Dignitas and “assisted dying” (what a euphemism) will have its effect, even on those with no wish to die.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13316295/Retired-nurse-died-hospital-staff-mixed-notes-Not-Resucitate-notice-90-year-old-man.html

    A retired nurse died after hospital staff mixed her up with a patient on a ‘Do Not Resuscitate’ notice.

    Pat Dawson, 73, was fit and healthy and had had no medical treatment in 30 years before suffering a suspected bowel obstruction, her family told an inquest.

    The widow and grandmother was taken to Royal Blackburn Hospital by ambulance but died after she collapsed and staff stopped attempts to resuscitate her following a look at ‘her’ notes.

    By the time medics realised that a mix-up had left them reading a DNR report relating to a 90-year-old man, it was too late to save her.

    The inquest heard that staff failed to check the NHS number on Mrs Dawson’s wristband or even the gender and age on the notes.

    Emergency consultant Ahmad Alabood called the tragedy an ‘honest mistake because [staff] were rushing’ when the unit was ‘over-stretched and over-crowded’.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Was the person who mixed the notes a diversity hire?

    Did they put "accidentally killed by the hospital" on the death certificate?

    There are a lot of those. You really want to avoid hospitals if possible. They are a lot more interested in your money than your health.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @songbird
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Have mentioned this before, but resuscitating the elderly is basically a scam. People are brainwashed by constant media portrayals of resuscitation, where it happens quickly and there are absolutely no health consequences.

    The reality is that in the elderly it often takes about ten minutes and there is brain damage and other organ damage. Often they will need to be plugged into machines and are objectively not the same person, if they can still speak at all.

    , @Wokechoke
    @YetAnotherAnon

    A lot of old people with property get murdered. By inheritors.

  38. @Ennui
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Jimmy "Cuban Boat Lift" Carter, Ronald "A." Reagan, I'll let you look into what Gerald Ford did vis-a-vis Southeast Asia.

    Emanuel Cellar didn't die yesterday, nor did Phil Hart. Somebody must voted for them and for everybody who voted for their bill. Not some zoomers, I promise you.

    The elderly and their parents made the world those poor, confused zoomers live in. Easy, and weasily, to blame the young.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Blame” is not the thing – the 1965 boomers were told that the Hart-Cellar act wouldn’t change US demographics.

    Young people in UK and US are taught that their forebears were awful racists, and all the black people they see on TV are carefully curated for their pleasant demeanour. But the boomers don’t run TV and Hollywood, do they now?

    • Replies: @Ennui
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Boomers do run TV and Hollywood.

    Are you seriously arguing that young people are misled, but it is still their fault for general degeneracy?, You simultaneously argue that boomers believing Ronald Reagan and Emanuel Cellar's claim to be the wallet inspector is to be forgiven?

    Most young people, like most people of all ages, should not be able to vote. They are horrible on some issues, but when it comes to US foreign policy they are preferred to boomers.

    Young people are confused sexually, but I blame the people who invented key parties and/or gleefully participated in decades of "consenting adults" rhetoric. Homosexuals were empowered because of heterosexual degeneracy.

  39. The given weaponry in new package obviously won’t really help directly to dislodge RF out of all occupied lands since 02.24, but it certainly makes UA more likely being able to hold the line without very quick collapse as envisioned in the post below, which was written little bit before the voting. However in principle the presented script still remains as the possible way in practice to end the hot phase of the war somewhere along the future frontlines, wherever they may remain:

    Hungarian Prime Minister Orban said that Europe is one step away from sending soldiers to Ukraine. This is quite consistent with Macron’s recent activity and the gradual legalization of the idea of sending NATO troops to the conflict zone.

    It is needed to understand that this does not at all mean that NATO will enter hostilities on the side of Ukraine.

    Most likely, the talk is going about preparations for a possible collapse of the front and the entry of Russian forces into operational depth. This development of events still looks hypothetical, but its probability does not look completely zero.

    In the event of a breakthrough by the Russian army, the Dnieper, of course, will become a natural barrier. In this case, NATO troops can move to this line and record the actual division of Ukraine, as was done several years ago in Syria, the territory of which is divided into three main occupation zones: Turkish, American, Russian/Iranian, and the latter is also actually quite clearly demarcated between pro-Iranian terrorist groups and strongholds of Russian forces.

    Between these occupation zones there are concluded “de-conflict” agreements, the essence of which is to create a mechanism to prevent clashes between the occupiers. In general, the mechanisms work, although from time to time one or another occupier carries out its own operations – but only in relation to “foreign” proxy structures, carefully without affecting the location of colleagues in the division of Syria.

    In Ukraine, in the event of the collapse of the front, a roughly similar situation may arise, when its territory will also be divided between the occupying forces (what exactly it will be called officially does not make much difference), and the occupiers will also enter into “de-conflict” agreements.

    From this moment on, Kyiv will finally turn into a proxy structure of the West, much like Assad is formally considered the president of Syria, but in reality he controls the territory of his palace and nothing further.

    There is no other point in sending NATO troops to Ukraine. No direct NATO-Russia clash is envisaged on its territory, and if this happens due to someone’s oversight, then they will try to quickly regulate and eliminate the excess, since it is completely unnecessary.

    Another question is that this does not cancel the continuation of the conflict as such, just as it does not cancel any other actions of both Russia and NATO somewhere in other locations, but the Russian-Ukrainian conflict in this version will continue in a completely different form.

    https://t.me/anatoly_nesmiyan/17976

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @sudden death

    Weaponry for UA battlefields - 14 billion out of 61, no any chances for the new offensives, just barely(?) enough to hold the defense more steady:

    https://i.postimg.cc/CSyQZ2FH/UA-aid-2024.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @QCIC

  40. • Disagree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    Russia has yet to acheive a war aim and is now looking at losing Crimea. Define winning.

    Replies: @QCIC

  41. I see Tucker Carlson spoke at length about ‘UFOs’ on Joe Rogan. Joe very sceptical, but I have heard a talk by a cosmonaut who said he saw many strange things in space, but was told not to talk about it by the Soviet authorities. I certainly think there are celestial beings, not aliens, that we can’t explain.

  42. Alexander Dugin was recently appointed as a head of a state scientific humanitarian institute in RF, btw:

    Alexander Dugin, leader of the Eurasia party. I’m for the blacks. White civilization – its cultural values, the false, inhumane model of the world it built – has not justified itself. Everything is heading towards the beginning of white pogroms on a planetary scale. Russia is saved only by the fact that we are not purely white. Predatory transnational corporations, oppression and suppression of everyone else, MTV, blue and pink – these are the fruits of white civilization that need to be gotten rid of. That’s why I’m for red, yellow, green, black – just not white. I stand with the people of Zimbabwe with all my heart.

    https://archive.is/UyPU#selection-2273.0-2283.496

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @sudden death


    That’s why I’m for red, yellow, green, black – just not white.
     
    It is all another late revolt against Aryan invasions as we can see from its hatred of "white", or specifically white men, as those doing the replacement (men were replaced, but women not so much, which is a bit strange somehow and testifies either to small number of Aryan women and/or the greater fecundity of non-Aryan ones). The Labrys of the Great Goddess will rule again! And remember that in one interpretation, the two-headed eagle, orginally raised by Byzantine aristocrats of Paleologos family (another oligarchs), is just the masked labrys. Dugin is full in, as the idea must have appeared to him that his daughter death was a human sacrifice; anyway her funeral was in the most phallic building of Moscow which says all.

    The more interesting question is how these ideas appear again and again correctly aiming at their opponents, with the memory of Aryan invasion being lost in populations long time ago.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Coconuts

  43. Looks like the attempt to farm the Ukraine war out to Europe failed.

    • Agree: Gerard1234
  44. @sudden death
    The given weaponry in new package obviously won't really help directly to dislodge RF out of all occupied lands since 02.24, but it certainly makes UA more likely being able to hold the line without very quick collapse as envisioned in the post below, which was written little bit before the voting. However in principle the presented script still remains as the possible way in practice to end the hot phase of the war somewhere along the future frontlines, wherever they may remain:

    Hungarian Prime Minister Orban said that Europe is one step away from sending soldiers to Ukraine. This is quite consistent with Macron’s recent activity and the gradual legalization of the idea of sending NATO troops to the conflict zone.

    It is needed to understand that this does not at all mean that NATO will enter hostilities on the side of Ukraine.

    Most likely, the talk is going about preparations for a possible collapse of the front and the entry of Russian forces into operational depth. This development of events still looks hypothetical, but its probability does not look completely zero.

    In the event of a breakthrough by the Russian army, the Dnieper, of course, will become a natural barrier. In this case, NATO troops can move to this line and record the actual division of Ukraine, as was done several years ago in Syria, the territory of which is divided into three main occupation zones: Turkish, American, Russian/Iranian, and the latter is also actually quite clearly demarcated between pro-Iranian terrorist groups and strongholds of Russian forces.

    Between these occupation zones there are concluded “de-conflict” agreements, the essence of which is to create a mechanism to prevent clashes between the occupiers. In general, the mechanisms work, although from time to time one or another occupier carries out its own operations - but only in relation to “foreign” proxy structures, carefully without affecting the location of colleagues in the division of Syria.

    In Ukraine, in the event of the collapse of the front, a roughly similar situation may arise, when its territory will also be divided between the occupying forces (what exactly it will be called officially does not make much difference), and the occupiers will also enter into “de-conflict” agreements.

    From this moment on, Kyiv will finally turn into a proxy structure of the West, much like Assad is formally considered the president of Syria, but in reality he controls the territory of his palace and nothing further.

    There is no other point in sending NATO troops to Ukraine. No direct NATO-Russia clash is envisaged on its territory, and if this happens due to someone’s oversight, then they will try to quickly regulate and eliminate the excess, since it is completely unnecessary.

    Another question is that this does not cancel the continuation of the conflict as such, just as it does not cancel any other actions of both Russia and NATO somewhere in other locations, but the Russian-Ukrainian conflict in this version will continue in a completely different form.
     

    https://t.me/anatoly_nesmiyan/17976

    Replies: @sudden death

    Weaponry for UA battlefields – 14 billion out of 61, no any chances for the new offensives, just barely(?) enough to hold the defense more steady:

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @sudden death

    The Ukies ought to seek terms with the Z Muscovites.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @QCIC
    @sudden death

    The item for current military operations in the region is probably the most dangerous. US voters should ask themselves if they want to commit $7.3 billion to increase the likelihood of full-scale World War Three.

    My preference is that all senior people directly involved in this insanity be immediately arrested for treason and put on trial.

  45. @Mr_Chow_Mein
    @A123

    There are military ships in the area, they may be out of reach of the Houthis...send one of those expensive bit of kit to Davey Jones locker and the U.S will probably invade...but they will anyway, sooner or later. It's best to chose the timing of war yourself and not let the U.S do so.

    Hows that jetty in Palestine going? I suggest its a crossing into the next world the U.S criminals are building for the Palestinians.

    Remember whatever the "elite" criminals are doing in the wider world its in the U.S goys' name they're doing it, the Zionist are just steering the effort to their advantage.

    Replies: @A123

    Hows that jetty in Palestine going? I suggest its a crossing into the next world the U.S criminals are building for the Palestinians.

    Do you mean anti-Semite Biden’s pier to rearm Hamas colonial forces?

    Its availability date is not growing any closer (1)

    The Pentagon’s self-imposed deadline of having the pier operational and delivering the needed aid by May rapidly approaches, and experts say there are other delays and problems cropping up with the mission.

    The USNS 2nd Lt. John P. Bobo “experienced a fire in the engine room while in transit to the eastern Mediterranean Sea” on April 11, and while the crew evacuated the area and used portable extinguishers to put out the fire, the ship had to return to Jacksonville, Florida, using just one engine, “for further assessment,” according to a Navy statement provided Wednesday.

    Sal Mercogliano, an academic and shipping expert, noted to Military.com on Wednesday that one of the Army Landing Craft Utility ships, the Wilson Wharf, seems to be stuck in Tenerife — a small island that is part of the Canary Islands cluster off the west coast of Africa. Plus, the Army’s Logistics Support Vessel General Frank S. Besson spent a week in the Azores before finally making it to the Navy’s base at Souda Bay in Greece.

    Mercogliano said such a long stay may indicate the ship had an engineering issue.

    A retired Army chief warrant officer who has significant experience in the Army’s watercraft community also told Military.com in an interview Wednesday that “if those boats don’t have multiple major mechanical failures — I mean ‘dead in the water’ mechanical failures — I will be shocked.”

    “They’re horrendously maintained. I’ve got videos of these things falling apart,” the retired officer added.

    Other Atlantic theatre vessels that could be of use are stuck in Baltimore on the wrong side of the Francis Scott Key bridge collapse.

    It is almost as if God is intervening to thwart the Veggie-In-Chief’s efforts to help Islamic aggression.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/04/17/navy-ship-slated-help-build-gaza-aid-pier-forced-return-port-experts-warn-of-other-delays.html

  46. @sudden death
    @sudden death

    Weaponry for UA battlefields - 14 billion out of 61, no any chances for the new offensives, just barely(?) enough to hold the defense more steady:

    https://i.postimg.cc/CSyQZ2FH/UA-aid-2024.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @QCIC

    The Ukies ought to seek terms with the Z Muscovites.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    The Ukies ought to seek terms with the Z Muscovites.
     
    Russian foreign ministry recently said that the RF won’t negotiate with Kiev puppets, only with their puppeteers.
  47. Listened to a podcast the other day about an archeological dig in Ireland. Mainly medieval bones, before the Normans showed up.

    [MORE]

    They said that while men would have fractures in major bones, women would often have fractures in their fingers, which I found really interesting and puzzling. Wonder if that somehow feeds into work that required the superior fine motor movements that women have. Could breaking fingers in accidents have helped caused selection?

    They claimed that there was some edging around the back of the skull that indicated scalping or cutting the locks off warriors.

    One guy had cuts on his bones in a manner which suggested that he may have been tortured and had certain organs removed. (Not sure if that was pre-Christian)

    There were two kids embracing each other in a grave who were thought to be first cousins once removed (though I guess it is equally plausible they were half cousins). How many people today would know their first cousins once removed?

    There was a funny part, where they said the diversity was “greater than you’d think.” And said that some people had a middling skin tone, some were very fair and some dark. By which I think they mean like Catherine Zeta Jones.

    In this same vein, they said that slightly over half of the people had brown eyes. And while most of the people had brown hair, some had black, red, or blond hair. They said one woman appeared somewhat Anglo-Saxon and might have come from York. (What incredible diversity! Lol)

    Surprisingly poor nutrition despite all the animals. One poor woman was lactose intolerant, despite living in a dairying economy. Lots of TB and rickets. Very high childhood mortality. Really bad teeth. Probably many died of abscesses.

  48. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Ennui

    "Blame" is not the thing - the 1965 boomers were told that the Hart-Cellar act wouldn't change US demographics.

    Young people in UK and US are taught that their forebears were awful racists, and all the black people they see on TV are carefully curated for their pleasant demeanour. But the boomers don't run TV and Hollywood, do they now?

    Replies: @Ennui

    Boomers do run TV and Hollywood.

    Are you seriously arguing that young people are misled, but it is still their fault for general degeneracy?, You simultaneously argue that boomers believing Ronald Reagan and Emanuel Cellar’s claim to be the wallet inspector is to be forgiven?

    Most young people, like most people of all ages, should not be able to vote. They are horrible on some issues, but when it comes to US foreign policy they are preferred to boomers.

    Young people are confused sexually, but I blame the people who invented key parties and/or gleefully participated in decades of “consenting adults” rhetoric. Homosexuals were empowered because of heterosexual degeneracy.

  49. @sudden death
    @sudden death

    Weaponry for UA battlefields - 14 billion out of 61, no any chances for the new offensives, just barely(?) enough to hold the defense more steady:

    https://i.postimg.cc/CSyQZ2FH/UA-aid-2024.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @QCIC

    The item for current military operations in the region is probably the most dangerous. US voters should ask themselves if they want to commit $7.3 billion to increase the likelihood of full-scale World War Three.

    My preference is that all senior people directly involved in this insanity be immediately arrested for treason and put on trial.

  50. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wokechoke

    I don't think a vast number of Brits are suffocating granny to get the house (except for a few of our New Brits).

    But the use of "Do Not Resuscitate" plans in hospitals and the constant drumbeat of promotion for Dignitas and "assisted dying" (what a euphemism) will have its effect, even on those with no wish to die.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13316295/Retired-nurse-died-hospital-staff-mixed-notes-Not-Resucitate-notice-90-year-old-man.html


    A retired nurse died after hospital staff mixed her up with a patient on a 'Do Not Resuscitate' notice.

    Pat Dawson, 73, was fit and healthy and had had no medical treatment in 30 years before suffering a suspected bowel obstruction, her family told an inquest.

    The widow and grandmother was taken to Royal Blackburn Hospital by ambulance but died after she collapsed and staff stopped attempts to resuscitate her following a look at 'her' notes.

    By the time medics realised that a mix-up had left them reading a DNR report relating to a 90-year-old man, it was too late to save her.

    The inquest heard that staff failed to check the NHS number on Mrs Dawson's wristband or even the gender and age on the notes.

    Emergency consultant Ahmad Alabood called the tragedy an 'honest mistake because [staff] were rushing' when the unit was 'over-stretched and over-crowded'.

     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Wokechoke

    Was the person who mixed the notes a diversity hire?

    Did they put “accidentally killed by the hospital” on the death certificate?

    There are a lot of those. You really want to avoid hospitals if possible. They are a lot more interested in your money than your health.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    They are a lot more interested in your money than your health.
     
    Hospitals and non-hospital physicians in the US are interested in your money and nothing else. Your health is a concern only to the extent that you have to be alive to pay bills.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    UK hospitals are generally free (NHS), but there are private ones. If you are seriously ill private hospitals may not be as good as NHS, as a private one is always thinking about the money, and emergency care is damn expensive.

  51. @Wokechoke
    @sudden death

    The Ukies ought to seek terms with the Z Muscovites.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    The Ukies ought to seek terms with the Z Muscovites.

    Russian foreign ministry recently said that the RF won’t negotiate with Kiev puppets, only with their puppeteers.

  52. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Was the person who mixed the notes a diversity hire?

    Did they put "accidentally killed by the hospital" on the death certificate?

    There are a lot of those. You really want to avoid hospitals if possible. They are a lot more interested in your money than your health.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @YetAnotherAnon

    They are a lot more interested in your money than your health.

    Hospitals and non-hospital physicians in the US are interested in your money and nothing else. Your health is a concern only to the extent that you have to be alive to pay bills.

  53. The House approved the bill on “assistance” to Ukraine on Hitler’s birthday. Is someone willing to argue that this was a mere coincidence?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Is someone willing to argue that this was a mere coincidence?
     
    Every coincidence traced far enough back becomes inevitable...:) And they waited until Saturday...

    Since Adolf lost why would they go with it? AP has tried to tie the current Drang-nach-Osten to 1920 and Pilsudski...also stupid but at least an attempt to channel success. Linking-up with Nazis is desperate, it is puzzling that they do it: Azov, Canadian Parliament Nazi circus, SS generals grandkids popping up in Germany and Brussels...even Meloni started out as latter-day Mussolini groupie.

    They can't suppress the urge - like Dr.Strangelove's saluting, it is who they are.

    , @A123
    @AnonfromTN


    The House approved the bill on “assistance” to Ukraine on Hitler’s birthday. Is someone willing to argue that this was a mere coincidence?
     
    It shows how schizophrenic American politics has become. The bill provides funding for the:

    • Immoral, losing cause of Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews
    • Moral, winning cause of Netanyahu, leader of Palestinian Jews

    It probably was coincidence. Was support for Kiev intended as tribute to Hitler? If so, the pairing with anti-Nazi funding to Palestinian Jews clouded the messaging.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  54. Eric Schmidt is now a diplomat.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4602883-ukraine-needs-one-more-year-to-win-and-congress-can-make-that-happen-now/

    He should invite the Azov Battalion commanders to his Burning Man camp with their swell outfits.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    https://assets.deutschlandfunk.de/FILE_8e4ccc2fbeb2f751ea082afec9ef2aa2/1920x1080.jpg?t=1597578488018

    Putler likes to dress up too, once in a while...

    , @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Maybe he can get some nice Ukrainian girls to go to Burning Man in full Nazi body paint.

    Schmidt is Jewish according to Forbes Israel. I wonder if he is aligned with Chabad?

  55. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wokechoke

    I don't think a vast number of Brits are suffocating granny to get the house (except for a few of our New Brits).

    But the use of "Do Not Resuscitate" plans in hospitals and the constant drumbeat of promotion for Dignitas and "assisted dying" (what a euphemism) will have its effect, even on those with no wish to die.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13316295/Retired-nurse-died-hospital-staff-mixed-notes-Not-Resucitate-notice-90-year-old-man.html


    A retired nurse died after hospital staff mixed her up with a patient on a 'Do Not Resuscitate' notice.

    Pat Dawson, 73, was fit and healthy and had had no medical treatment in 30 years before suffering a suspected bowel obstruction, her family told an inquest.

    The widow and grandmother was taken to Royal Blackburn Hospital by ambulance but died after she collapsed and staff stopped attempts to resuscitate her following a look at 'her' notes.

    By the time medics realised that a mix-up had left them reading a DNR report relating to a 90-year-old man, it was too late to save her.

    The inquest heard that staff failed to check the NHS number on Mrs Dawson's wristband or even the gender and age on the notes.

    Emergency consultant Ahmad Alabood called the tragedy an 'honest mistake because [staff] were rushing' when the unit was 'over-stretched and over-crowded'.

     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Wokechoke

    Have mentioned this before, but resuscitating the elderly is basically a scam. People are brainwashed by constant media portrayals of resuscitation, where it happens quickly and there are absolutely no health consequences.

    The reality is that in the elderly it often takes about ten minutes and there is brain damage and other organ damage. Often they will need to be plugged into machines and are objectively not the same person, if they can still speak at all.

  56. @Emil Nikola Richard
    Eric Schmidt is now a diplomat.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4602883-ukraine-needs-one-more-year-to-win-and-congress-can-make-that-happen-now/

    He should invite the Azov Battalion commanders to his Burning Man camp with their swell outfits.

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ee23f080d2d65468f638e18/88eefc57-a03c-4e42-8c4c-f67326085b1d/UkraineNazis.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC

    Putler likes to dress up too, once in a while…

  57. @Emil Nikola Richard
    There is an argument to be made that the new AI chatbots are useless for the most useful people. I will make this argument because (subjectively!) I am the most useful person that I know and I find them utterly useless.

    True Fact: google search results are user-dependent. When you type into the search bar the program returns what it predicts you are searching for. What you get and what I get are two different things, perhaps even completely totally different.

    Observation: the highest status enthusiasts for the new AI's all seem to have one commonality. The highest benefit, or at the very least one of the highest benefits, is they can search the web again which they haven't been able to do for years their google search engine is so fubar'd.

    My google search engine is not fubar'd. I can almost always quickly find what I am looking for.

    I am reminded of Bruce Schneier's talk at google where he began by telling the nerds in the room:

    We all watch Game of Thrones
    Google knows what everybody's favorite porno is

    True fact: I have never seen an episode of Game of Thrones. I have seen two minute clips here or there so I do have some idea of what I am missing but I really do not know what all the fuss was about. When whats-her-face went Darth Vader some of the subsequent internet caterwauling was amusing. That's about all I know about Game of Thrones.

    Also a true fact: I have never used google search to look for porn.

    So I guess Bruce Schneier wasn't talking to me.

    Feel free to presume I never ever search for anything you would find useful!

    Replies: @Sher Singh, @Philip Owen

    My work account delivers very different results from my private account as I keep strong boundaries. I even have a household account which delivers DIY advice on cars and house repairs. The way Google dovetails with YouTube and your locations (I take all cookies and allow Google to track my location) can be uncanny or farcical. So far as I know, it doesn’t know what I buy at the Chemist but it knows I’ve been there and not the Newsagent.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Philip Owen

    The other game changer breakthrough claimed is it will write code for you. I suppose that is fine if the code works. If it has a bug (what code does not have bugs?) then you are in the position of debugging somebody else's code.

    There are few tasks I dislike more than debugging another entity's code.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Philip Owen

    , @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    The system knows what you buy if you pay electronically. If you pay by cash it monitors you more carefully in other ways.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  58. @Mikhail
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyRxSB6LtUQ

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    Russia has yet to acheive a war aim and is now looking at losing Crimea. Define winning.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    What is going on with Crimea which makes you think this?

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @A123, @Philip Owen

  59. @Emil Nikola Richard
    Eric Schmidt is now a diplomat.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4602883-ukraine-needs-one-more-year-to-win-and-congress-can-make-that-happen-now/

    He should invite the Azov Battalion commanders to his Burning Man camp with their swell outfits.

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ee23f080d2d65468f638e18/88eefc57-a03c-4e42-8c4c-f67326085b1d/UkraineNazis.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC

    Maybe he can get some nice Ukrainian girls to go to Burning Man in full Nazi body paint.

    Schmidt is Jewish according to Forbes Israel. I wonder if he is aligned with Chabad?

  60. @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    Russia has yet to acheive a war aim and is now looking at losing Crimea. Define winning.

    Replies: @QCIC

    What is going on with Crimea which makes you think this?

    • Agree: A123
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    The Russians by my estimation will throw away 500,000 KIA before conceding Crimea.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @A123
    @QCIC

    Russia has made it fairly clear they will use nukes to protect Crimea. Thus, there is no strategy for Kiev aggression that has an outcome they will like.

    PEACE 😇

    , @Philip Owen
    @QCIC

    ATACAMS when they arrive. They can cut Crimean logistics. Hodges has been on about it for since the first Ukrainian counterattack.

    Replies: @QCIC

  61. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wokechoke

    I don't think a vast number of Brits are suffocating granny to get the house (except for a few of our New Brits).

    But the use of "Do Not Resuscitate" plans in hospitals and the constant drumbeat of promotion for Dignitas and "assisted dying" (what a euphemism) will have its effect, even on those with no wish to die.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13316295/Retired-nurse-died-hospital-staff-mixed-notes-Not-Resucitate-notice-90-year-old-man.html


    A retired nurse died after hospital staff mixed her up with a patient on a 'Do Not Resuscitate' notice.

    Pat Dawson, 73, was fit and healthy and had had no medical treatment in 30 years before suffering a suspected bowel obstruction, her family told an inquest.

    The widow and grandmother was taken to Royal Blackburn Hospital by ambulance but died after she collapsed and staff stopped attempts to resuscitate her following a look at 'her' notes.

    By the time medics realised that a mix-up had left them reading a DNR report relating to a 90-year-old man, it was too late to save her.

    The inquest heard that staff failed to check the NHS number on Mrs Dawson's wristband or even the gender and age on the notes.

    Emergency consultant Ahmad Alabood called the tragedy an 'honest mistake because [staff] were rushing' when the unit was 'over-stretched and over-crowded'.

     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Wokechoke

    A lot of old people with property get murdered. By inheritors.

  62. @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    What is going on with Crimea which makes you think this?

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @A123, @Philip Owen

    The Russians by my estimation will throw away 500,000 KIA before conceding Crimea.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Wokechoke

    Will not come close to being necessary for consideration. Phil Own shouldn't be given too much if any attention.

  63. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Was the person who mixed the notes a diversity hire?

    Did they put "accidentally killed by the hospital" on the death certificate?

    There are a lot of those. You really want to avoid hospitals if possible. They are a lot more interested in your money than your health.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @YetAnotherAnon

    UK hospitals are generally free (NHS), but there are private ones. If you are seriously ill private hospitals may not be as good as NHS, as a private one is always thinking about the money, and emergency care is damn expensive.

  64. @AnonfromTN
    The House approved the bill on “assistance” to Ukraine on Hitler’s birthday. Is someone willing to argue that this was a mere coincidence?

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123

    …Is someone willing to argue that this was a mere coincidence?

    Every coincidence traced far enough back becomes inevitable…:) And they waited until Saturday…

    Since Adolf lost why would they go with it? AP has tried to tie the current Drang-nach-Osten to 1920 and Pilsudski…also stupid but at least an attempt to channel success. Linking-up with Nazis is desperate, it is puzzling that they do it: Azov, Canadian Parliament Nazi circus, SS generals grandkids popping up in Germany and Brussels…even Meloni started out as latter-day Mussolini groupie.

    They can’t suppress the urge – like Dr.Strangelove’s saluting, it is who they are.

  65. A123 says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    The House approved the bill on “assistance” to Ukraine on Hitler’s birthday. Is someone willing to argue that this was a mere coincidence?

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123

    The House approved the bill on “assistance” to Ukraine on Hitler’s birthday. Is someone willing to argue that this was a mere coincidence?

    It shows how schizophrenic American politics has become. The bill provides funding for the:

    • Immoral, losing cause of Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews
    • Moral, winning cause of Netanyahu, leader of Palestinian Jews

    It probably was coincidence. Was support for Kiev intended as tribute to Hitler? If so, the pairing with anti-Nazi funding to Palestinian Jews clouded the messaging.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    If it's true that congress was responsible for enabling Ukrainian "Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews" to continue his "offensive war" against Putler's Russia, then why do you sit so quietly about the person who enabled this whole thing to go down, Donald Trump?

    Mike Whitney does not seem to buy the kind of crap that you've been peddling here now for many months, about the superiority of Trump. and is able to clearly assign guilt where it belongs:


    The man who is most responsible for the $95 billion giveaway to Ukraine and Israel, is the same guy who pretends to oppose America’s “wasteful” foreign wars. Donald Trump. It was Trump who consulted with Speaker Mike Johnson about the contents of the Ukraine aid package, just as it was Trump who concocted the idea of issuing loans instead of dispersing the standard welfare handout. It was also Trump who said:

    “I stand with the Speaker, (Mike Johnson)” after which he added that Johnson is doing “a very good job.”
     

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/TrumpMikeJohnsonMW-600x565.png
    Sometimes, a picture really is worth 1,000 words.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  66. @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    What is going on with Crimea which makes you think this?

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @A123, @Philip Owen

    Russia has made it fairly clear they will use nukes to protect Crimea. Thus, there is no strategy for Kiev aggression that has an outcome they will like.

    PEACE 😇

  67. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    Eastern Europe has much less immigration. Is it working out much better for them relative to the Anglosphere?

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Eastern Europe has much less immigration. Is it working out much better for them relative to the Anglosphere?

    The Central-Eastern Europe is a collection of dependencies – some more independent, some less. Similar to Latin America in the past, even now. Or the way France sees Western Africa.

    The east has been where most of the wars and massive destruction happened in the last 200 years. Many of the Western pathologies were recently imported, but we are in the early stages and large parts of the West are in the end-state. Beginnings are always easy – for any system. We are still enjoying the early phase…:)

    • Agree: Derer
  68. Battle of the Nations
    Norway Greece
    Kazakhstan The Ukraine

    [MORE]

    Thor takes out orthodox Jesus.
    The Ukraine shakes hands with Kazakhstan! It was a massacre but Poland put up a fight against Kazakhstan in the semifinal.

  69. @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    The Russians by my estimation will throw away 500,000 KIA before conceding Crimea.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Will not come close to being necessary for consideration. Phil Own shouldn’t be given too much if any attention.

  70. @Philip Owen
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My work account delivers very different results from my private account as I keep strong boundaries. I even have a household account which delivers DIY advice on cars and house repairs. The way Google dovetails with YouTube and your locations (I take all cookies and allow Google to track my location) can be uncanny or farcical. So far as I know, it doesn't know what I buy at the Chemist but it knows I've been there and not the Newsagent.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    The other game changer breakthrough claimed is it will write code for you. I suppose that is fine if the code works. If it has a bug (what code does not have bugs?) then you are in the position of debugging somebody else’s code.

    There are few tasks I dislike more than debugging another entity’s code.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Google AI thinks: There are few tasks I dislike more than debugging another entity.

    , @Philip Owen
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I've used Chat GPT @& Bard it for very short pieces of code (less than 100 lines) for the same commonplace tasks. They've delivered almost identical results and worked impeccably.

  71. @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    What is going on with Crimea which makes you think this?

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @A123, @Philip Owen

    ATACAMS when they arrive. They can cut Crimean logistics. Hodges has been on about it for since the first Ukrainian counterattack.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    Doubtful, but time will tell. The (((yanks))) will be eager to take out the Kerch bridge as a symbolic gesture. If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AnonfromTN, @Derer

  72. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Philip Owen

    The other game changer breakthrough claimed is it will write code for you. I suppose that is fine if the code works. If it has a bug (what code does not have bugs?) then you are in the position of debugging somebody else's code.

    There are few tasks I dislike more than debugging another entity's code.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Philip Owen

    Google AI thinks: There are few tasks I dislike more than debugging another entity.

  73. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Philip Owen

    The other game changer breakthrough claimed is it will write code for you. I suppose that is fine if the code works. If it has a bug (what code does not have bugs?) then you are in the position of debugging somebody else's code.

    There are few tasks I dislike more than debugging another entity's code.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Philip Owen

    I’ve used Chat GPT @& Bard it for very short pieces of code (less than 100 lines) for the same commonplace tasks. They’ve delivered almost identical results and worked impeccably.

  74. @Philip Owen
    @QCIC

    ATACAMS when they arrive. They can cut Crimean logistics. Hodges has been on about it for since the first Ukrainian counterattack.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Doubtful, but time will tell. The (((yanks))) will be eager to take out the Kerch bridge as a symbolic gesture. If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Surely every bridge over the Dneiper would be dropped in response.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.
     
    Possibly. Judging by much higher than before success of Russian strikes the flow of HUMINT from Ukrainian territory has greatly increased lately.

    Replies: @LondonBob, @Gerard1234

    , @Derer
    @QCIC

    The Russian response must be resolute and target snake head in Kiev arena.

  75. @Philip Owen
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My work account delivers very different results from my private account as I keep strong boundaries. I even have a household account which delivers DIY advice on cars and house repairs. The way Google dovetails with YouTube and your locations (I take all cookies and allow Google to track my location) can be uncanny or farcical. So far as I know, it doesn't know what I buy at the Chemist but it knows I've been there and not the Newsagent.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    The system knows what you buy if you pay electronically. If you pay by cash it monitors you more carefully in other ways.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    What do you think they do with Gwern who posted on his website his experience buying adderall off Silk Road with Bitcoin?

    Replies: @QCIC

  76. @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    Doubtful, but time will tell. The (((yanks))) will be eager to take out the Kerch bridge as a symbolic gesture. If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AnonfromTN, @Derer

    Surely every bridge over the Dneiper would be dropped in response.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    Surely every bridge over the Dneiper would be dropped in response.
     
    I don’t think so. Most likely communications via the Western border (like bridges in Odessa region, tunnels through Carpathian Mountains, etc.) will be destroyed. The bridges across Dnieper could have been targeted only if the plan was to take the Eastern half of Ukraine and leave the Western half to the vultures. I suspect the plan is to give nothing to the vultures (except maybe the clown and his gang, but that’s slim pickings).
  77. @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    Doubtful, but time will tell. The (((yanks))) will be eager to take out the Kerch bridge as a symbolic gesture. If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AnonfromTN, @Derer

    If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.

    Possibly. Judging by much higher than before success of Russian strikes the flow of HUMINT from Ukrainian territory has greatly increased lately.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @AnonfromTN

    Success breeds success, more people more likely to help if they know the Russians are coming, but I expect the greatly increased satellite coverage helps, as well as attrition of AD, allowing drones to surveil deep behind the lines.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Gerard1234
    @AnonfromTN


    Possibly. Judging by much higher than before success of Russian strikes the flow of HUMINT from Ukrainian territory has greatly increased lately.
     
    Well it's inevitable that mid-long range strikes is going to be attempted against us from Ukrop territory by the west. They have been doing this, with limited effect and non-existent tactical benefit, against liberated territory and Crimea and of course I don't like it, but these are the current "rules" - inevitable attempts on our pre-2014 state can not have those same rules

    Hopefully we will intercept them but either way - any missile strike into Russia from their weapons, whatever "deniability"BS onto the Ukronazis they try to claim........they should be responded to with missile strikes in Poland and Czechia. The big NATO intelligence centre they have in Poland- destroyed. Munitions factories in Poland-Czechia - the same. Anything in the logistics chain. Accumulation of enough Poles and Czechs at each site targeted to kill about hundred for each missile

    WW3? Well I think not if missile strikes launched from Russia are not from Kaliningrad, or use airspace above Kaliningrad/ from Baltic Sea. The same thing with Belarus. Strikes would have to be launched from Black Sea, 2014 Russia borders or Caspian Sea. It's all about the Anglo-US scum and maybe France and Germany that is relevant here. They are self-protective and faggots and countries like Poland are totally expendable .

    Putin would have to do speech to the world and appeal to Polish and Czech citizens, and explain that for the NATO response to justified Russian strikes on Poland & Czechia......ANY attack of any scale on Kaliningrad , which has zero connection to these strikes on Poland & Czechia, would be responded to with Nuclear attack ( any possible fallout to go west) on Poland, or equivalent from non-nuclear , killing hundreds of thousands of Czechs and Polish plankton.

    Could say that most important thing is for Presidential Administration not to use some fool as official translator into English for Putin speech. Only Anglo-American opinion is vital - all the other NATO scum general opinion is derivative from the Anglo-American one. And general population of Anglo-US just will not listen to anybody who speaks in slow, heavily-accented by Russia into English translator.

    So any NATO-stan response , assuming they follow Putin's order on Kaliningrad, would have to be via airspace of Banderastan into mainland Russia. Escalation wouldn't be any personnel on Russian land in significant numbers. Erdogan is , at least, sane so nothing from NATO would happen on his part of the black Sea. Then it's Romania and Bulgaria. Even as bought-off prostitutes that their elites are, I dont believe their population would enable them to do such action. Their current despicable actions require locals to be passive in support. Active support required for being a launchpad to attack us is a different thing. Scandinavian and Baltic earthworm retards are a different issue, however I don't think they would do so either, at least not for next 2-3 years. So only via Banderastan.

    Recent actions in Middle East look decent for us in this type scenario- exchange of attacks by Israelis and Iran more of intelligence on Air Defence/PR operation then serious destructive military action - and all known by each side in advance. Similar to that Trump Iran/Syria vs their bases a few years before.
    Anglo-American scum are obsessed with PR, especially Americans . Almost like PR dictates military action. Appears very plausible we could semi-contrive a situation with the Anglo-American Nazis. Would guess preferably with the Pentagon not the pogrom-vengefaul (((CIA))). Call it operation Paramount-Dovzhenko. Fill sites with a lot of decommissioned/fake equipment and allow west to strike it.
    Western satellite photos showing 'Russian military sites" hit - which are just large numbers of Decommisioned planes/tanks. Actually, f**k it - make them to scale papier mache planes/helicopters/tanks/APC, etc . Only thing real the fuel tanks - give western bydlo a big fire to watch. Then the following day satellite images showing "Putin's defeat" to the western world. So like the Iran-Israel thing in reverse. We say no casualties, they say they struck our bases.

    Around all this, assuming there is real escalation that GS thinks is defendable...Ukrop air-defence now even busier at 360 degrees and 24 hours (which they are now, but even worse) . That anything launched from Poland/Czechia/NATO over 404 is co-ordinated with them does not matter - we learn from this co-ordination and more things fall in Ukraine. Czechia will see they are not a deathcult like 404, and positive developments could happen.

    Replies: @Derer

  78. @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    The system knows what you buy if you pay electronically. If you pay by cash it monitors you more carefully in other ways.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    What do you think they do with Gwern who posted on his website his experience buying adderall off Silk Road with Bitcoin?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I don't know of that person. I think the information is being collected automatically. What is being done with it is a different question.

    I'm still in the Bitcoin skeptic camp. I think it is a nice idea hyped into a scam of some sort, but I hope it works out.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  79. @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Surely every bridge over the Dneiper would be dropped in response.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Surely every bridge over the Dneiper would be dropped in response.

    I don’t think so. Most likely communications via the Western border (like bridges in Odessa region, tunnels through Carpathian Mountains, etc.) will be destroyed. The bridges across Dnieper could have been targeted only if the plan was to take the Eastern half of Ukraine and leave the Western half to the vultures. I suspect the plan is to give nothing to the vultures (except maybe the clown and his gang, but that’s slim pickings).

  80. Niall Ferguson, hawkish type, on the Second Cold War.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-04-21/china-russia-iran-axis-is-bad-news-for-trump-and-gop-isolationists

    Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser, in his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard:

    “Potentially, the most dangerous scenario would be a grand coalition of China, Russia, and perhaps Iran, an “antihegemonic” coalition united not by ideology but by complementary grievances. It would be reminiscent in scale and scope of the challenge once posed by the Sino-Soviet bloc, though this time China would likely be the leader and Russia the follower.”

    it matters a lot if China and Russia are united, as opposed to at each other’s throats. Their current unity is a real headache for the US and its allies, who find themselves in the situation — envisioned more than a century ago — of Nicholas Spykman’s “Rimland,” trying to contain Halford Mackinder’s vast Eurasian “Heartland.” Then as now, there are not just two groupings, but three, because a significant number of countries would prefer to be nonaligned rather than have to choose a side.

    So what are the biggest differences between Cold War I and Cold War II?

    First, China is a much bigger economic contender than the Soviet Union ever was. Second, the West is economically entangled with China, through a vast web of supply chains, in a way we never were with the USSR. Third, we are much weaker in terms of manufacturing capacity. With China flooding the world with cheap “green” stuff, the West has no option but to revive protectionism and industrial policy, turning the economic strategy clock back to the 1970s, too. Climate adviser John Podesta made that clear last week at Bloomberg’s BNEF Summit. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen complained last month that Chinese “excess capacity … in ‘new’ industries like solar, EVs, and lithium-ion batteries” was “hurt[ing] American firms and workers, as well as firms and workers around the world.”

    Fourth, US fiscal policy is on a completely unsustainable path. To run a 7% deficit at a time of full employment is, to put it mildly, not what the macroeconomics textbooks recommend. More importantly, as the Congressional Budget Office has just pointed out, the relentless growth of the federal debt in public hands relative to gross domestic product — from 99% this year to a projected 166% by 2054 — will inevitably constrain future administrations, for the simple reason that an inexorably rising share of revenues will have to go on servicing the debt.

    What Niall Ferguson needs to do is to go back to the Grand Chessboard. Why did it become so important to the United States to detach Ukraine from Russia? Because “without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia. America’s global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I think the significance and importance of Ukraine to Russia goes beyond Empire. If Ukraine had stayed neutral and fraternal with Russia I don't think this mess would have happened; at the least it doesn't seem inevitable. An analogy to what occurred might be the difference between marrying the sister as opposed to kidnapping and raping her. In the first case she moves away from the family partially into a new expanded family as a natural process. In the second everything is wrecked and the family will risk their lives to save her and protect their values.

    China's main external weakness is energy, at least for now. At some point she may be adequately nuclear powered to reduce this weakness. In the mean time, Russia is her natural partner with protected energy transfer routes. China may eventually grow and claim as much of far-Eastern Russia as she wants. The challenge for Russia is to be strong enough to stave this off without losing her Russianness. Some people suggest the PRC might be vulnerable to economic upheaval leading to chaos. I doubt this could break the system.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  81. According to the Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, last year Chinese shipyards built 47.3 percent of ships made around the world, received 55.2 percent of new orders, and had 49 percent of holding orders. That’s a radical shift from the early 1900s, when British shipyards produced almost 60 percent of merchant ships.

    In the early 1950s, Britain and Western Europe still dominated shipbuilding for the global market. But since then, and especially since the 1980s, globalization has taken its predictable course. By 2010, only about 3 percent of all ships were made in the U.K. and Europe; after China, South Korea and Japan built the most. Today, the EU reports it accounts for 6 percent of civilian shipbuilding, while the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development reports that China, South Korea, and Japan together build 94 percent of the world’s civilian ships.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/04/03/global-shipping-china-dependence-korea-japan-britain/

  82. Cult vibrations.

    https://philosophybear.substack.com/p/altruistic-kidney-donation-initiators

    For those of you who have not heard this, Scott Alexander set the all time Virtue Signal World’s Record last year donating one of his kidneys to a stranger. It is possible that this will be like Cy Young’s career victories a record that will never be broken.

  83. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    What do you think they do with Gwern who posted on his website his experience buying adderall off Silk Road with Bitcoin?

    Replies: @QCIC

    I don’t know of that person. I think the information is being collected automatically. What is being done with it is a different question.

    I’m still in the Bitcoin skeptic camp. I think it is a nice idea hyped into a scam of some sort, but I hope it works out.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    For naive people such as myself this is one of the most revelatory documents ever posted on the internet:

    https://gwern.obormot.net/silk-road

    It had been awhile since I read it. I forgot he got more than just adderall. His website aesthetics are in the top 1% although this is highly subjective.

    Replies: @QCIC

  84. @YetAnotherAnon
    Niall Ferguson, hawkish type, on the Second Cold War.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-04-21/china-russia-iran-axis-is-bad-news-for-trump-and-gop-isolationists

    Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser, in his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard:

    "Potentially, the most dangerous scenario would be a grand coalition of China, Russia, and perhaps Iran, an “antihegemonic” coalition united not by ideology but by complementary grievances. It would be reminiscent in scale and scope of the challenge once posed by the Sino-Soviet bloc, though this time China would likely be the leader and Russia the follower."

    it matters a lot if China and Russia are united, as opposed to at each other’s throats. Their current unity is a real headache for the US and its allies, who find themselves in the situation — envisioned more than a century ago — of Nicholas Spykman’s “Rimland,” trying to contain Halford Mackinder’s vast Eurasian “Heartland.” Then as now, there are not just two groupings, but three, because a significant number of countries would prefer to be nonaligned rather than have to choose a side.

    So what are the biggest differences between Cold War I and Cold War II?

    First, China is a much bigger economic contender than the Soviet Union ever was. Second, the West is economically entangled with China, through a vast web of supply chains, in a way we never were with the USSR. Third, we are much weaker in terms of manufacturing capacity. With China flooding the world with cheap “green” stuff, the West has no option but to revive protectionism and industrial policy, turning the economic strategy clock back to the 1970s, too. Climate adviser John Podesta made that clear last week at Bloomberg’s BNEF Summit. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen complained last month that Chinese “excess capacity … in ‘new’ industries like solar, EVs, and lithium-ion batteries” was “hurt[ing] American firms and workers, as well as firms and workers around the world.”

    Fourth, US fiscal policy is on a completely unsustainable path. To run a 7% deficit at a time of full employment is, to put it mildly, not what the macroeconomics textbooks recommend. More importantly, as the Congressional Budget Office has just pointed out, the relentless growth of the federal debt in public hands relative to gross domestic product — from 99% this year to a projected 166% by 2054 — will inevitably constrain future administrations, for the simple reason that an inexorably rising share of revenues will have to go on servicing the debt.

     

    What Niall Ferguson needs to do is to go back to the Grand Chessboard. Why did it become so important to the United States to detach Ukraine from Russia? Because "without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia. America’s global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained."

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the significance and importance of Ukraine to Russia goes beyond Empire. If Ukraine had stayed neutral and fraternal with Russia I don’t think this mess would have happened; at the least it doesn’t seem inevitable. An analogy to what occurred might be the difference between marrying the sister as opposed to kidnapping and raping her. In the first case she moves away from the family partially into a new expanded family as a natural process. In the second everything is wrecked and the family will risk their lives to save her and protect their values.

    China’s main external weakness is energy, at least for now. At some point she may be adequately nuclear powered to reduce this weakness. In the mean time, Russia is her natural partner with protected energy transfer routes. China may eventually grow and claim as much of far-Eastern Russia as she wants. The challenge for Russia is to be strong enough to stave this off without losing her Russianness. Some people suggest the PRC might be vulnerable to economic upheaval leading to chaos. I doubt this could break the system.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @QCIC

    I can't see China pinching Far Eastern Russia back until the United States is completely powerless, perhaps not this century. China knows the United States elites have finally woken up to their fast-vanishing world power, and that if the US and its European colonies could break Russia, China would be next in line.

    Once China dominates the globe, who knows?

    "China’s main external weakness is energy, at least for now."

    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123

  85. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I don't know of that person. I think the information is being collected automatically. What is being done with it is a different question.

    I'm still in the Bitcoin skeptic camp. I think it is a nice idea hyped into a scam of some sort, but I hope it works out.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    For naive people such as myself this is one of the most revelatory documents ever posted on the internet:

    https://gwern.obormot.net/silk-road

    It had been awhile since I read it. I forgot he got more than just adderall. His website aesthetics are in the top 1% although this is highly subjective.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    He has nice quotes.

  86. SnotBot, a new way to harvest whale-derived rootstock for bioweapons.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    The North Atlantic right whale could still have its proportionate revenge on us, killing off a similar percentage of people.
    ________
    Have always thought of Robinson Crusoe as the most famous early novel. What is surprising is that it was a trilogy, with the second and third books written quickly to capitalize on the success of the first, so not disimilar to modern entertainment.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  87. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    For naive people such as myself this is one of the most revelatory documents ever posted on the internet:

    https://gwern.obormot.net/silk-road

    It had been awhile since I read it. I forgot he got more than just adderall. His website aesthetics are in the top 1% although this is highly subjective.

    Replies: @QCIC

    He has nice quotes.

  88. @QCIC
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I think the significance and importance of Ukraine to Russia goes beyond Empire. If Ukraine had stayed neutral and fraternal with Russia I don't think this mess would have happened; at the least it doesn't seem inevitable. An analogy to what occurred might be the difference between marrying the sister as opposed to kidnapping and raping her. In the first case she moves away from the family partially into a new expanded family as a natural process. In the second everything is wrecked and the family will risk their lives to save her and protect their values.

    China's main external weakness is energy, at least for now. At some point she may be adequately nuclear powered to reduce this weakness. In the mean time, Russia is her natural partner with protected energy transfer routes. China may eventually grow and claim as much of far-Eastern Russia as she wants. The challenge for Russia is to be strong enough to stave this off without losing her Russianness. Some people suggest the PRC might be vulnerable to economic upheaval leading to chaos. I doubt this could break the system.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I can’t see China pinching Far Eastern Russia back until the United States is completely powerless, perhaps not this century. China knows the United States elites have finally woken up to their fast-vanishing world power, and that if the US and its European colonies could break Russia, China would be next in line.

    Once China dominates the globe, who knows?

    “China’s main external weakness is energy, at least for now.”

    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @YetAnotherAnon


    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?
     
    Intelligent foreign policy would never do that. Idiotic foreign policy did.
    , @A123
    @YetAnotherAnon


    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?
     
    Is it lack of intelligence? Or, deliberate malice? The latter seems far more likely.

    IslamoGloboHomo leaders want to make Judeo-Christian workers suffer. The European Empire, and its DC puppet, intentionally drive up energy prices. Replacing Russian gas with expensive, unreliable wind & solar is not a "bug", its a "feature".

    Ask yourself -- Why do the Islamophile authoritarians of Brussels want to do away with internal combustion engines? Any car can anonymously refuel at any station. What can they do with EV's? They can prevent you from charging at vehicle identifying stations if you left your "15 Minute City" without authorization. Or, if your online social presence is too Christian.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  89. @songbird
    SnotBot, a new way to harvest whale-derived rootstock for bioweapons.

    https://youtu.be/dVJj1IM_Cbg?si=G0b1Atc1dDt2RSpI

    Replies: @songbird

    The North Atlantic right whale could still have its proportionate revenge on us, killing off a similar percentage of people.
    ________
    Have always thought of Robinson Crusoe as the most famous early novel. What is surprising is that it was a trilogy, with the second and third books written quickly to capitalize on the success of the first, so not disimilar to modern entertainment.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Robinson reads a little bit like an economics primer.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

  90. @YetAnotherAnon
    @QCIC

    I can't see China pinching Far Eastern Russia back until the United States is completely powerless, perhaps not this century. China knows the United States elites have finally woken up to their fast-vanishing world power, and that if the US and its European colonies could break Russia, China would be next in line.

    Once China dominates the globe, who knows?

    "China’s main external weakness is energy, at least for now."

    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123

    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?

    Intelligent foreign policy would never do that. Idiotic foreign policy did.

  91. …the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms

    The West had so much hubris they thought by controlling Russia’s energy resources they could corner China. It worked out differently: Russia left with no other choice went fully with China. For the first time in 500 years West is not the dominant global power.

    The Rim has been fighting the Heartland for thousands of years, they usually lose or it is a stalemate. Grabbing Ukraine was the last realistic chance for the West to prevail. It has failed – all they are doing now is postponing the inevitable.

    The smarter Westies would give a lot to go back to 2010-15 and avoid making the catastrophic over-reach mistakes they made. But it doesn’t work that way.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    The fat lady has not yet sung. The soft power remains in the hand of Silly Valley. You may have given up on the Star Trekkers but the world has not yet done so. Sam Altman was the star at WEF and bitcoin is 65K.

    Anatoly Karlin of all people is now promoting anal sex.

    Replies: @Beckow

  92. A123 says: • Website
    @YetAnotherAnon
    @QCIC

    I can't see China pinching Far Eastern Russia back until the United States is completely powerless, perhaps not this century. China knows the United States elites have finally woken up to their fast-vanishing world power, and that if the US and its European colonies could break Russia, China would be next in line.

    Once China dominates the globe, who knows?

    "China’s main external weakness is energy, at least for now."

    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123

    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?

    Is it lack of intelligence? Or, deliberate malice? The latter seems far more likely.

    IslamoGloboHomo leaders want to make Judeo-Christian workers suffer. The European Empire, and its DC puppet, intentionally drive up energy prices. Replacing Russian gas with expensive, unreliable wind & solar is not a “bug”, its a “feature”.

    Ask yourself — Why do the Islamophile authoritarians of Brussels want to do away with internal combustion engines? Any car can anonymously refuel at any station. What can they do with EV’s? They can prevent you from charging at vehicle identifying stations if you left your “15 Minute City” without authorization. Or, if your online social presence is too Christian.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Is it lack of intelligence? Or, deliberate malice?
     
    You don’t need elaborate conspiracy theories when simple stupidity explains everything satisfactorily.

    Replies: @A123

  93. @A123
    @YetAnotherAnon


    You would think, then, that the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms?
     
    Is it lack of intelligence? Or, deliberate malice? The latter seems far more likely.

    IslamoGloboHomo leaders want to make Judeo-Christian workers suffer. The European Empire, and its DC puppet, intentionally drive up energy prices. Replacing Russian gas with expensive, unreliable wind & solar is not a "bug", its a "feature".

    Ask yourself -- Why do the Islamophile authoritarians of Brussels want to do away with internal combustion engines? Any car can anonymously refuel at any station. What can they do with EV's? They can prevent you from charging at vehicle identifying stations if you left your "15 Minute City" without authorization. Or, if your online social presence is too Christian.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Is it lack of intelligence? Or, deliberate malice?

    You don’t need elaborate conspiracy theories when simple stupidity explains everything satisfactorily.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AnonfromTN


    You don’t need elaborate conspiracy theories when simple stupidity explains everything satisfactorily.
     
    Stupidity would be 50%/50%. Or, possibly 66%/33%.

    The performance of SJW Globalist elites is 95%+ against Judeo-Christian workers. That has to be more than simple stupidity.

    PEACE 😇
  94. @Beckow

    ...the last thing an intelligent foreign policy would do is to push the world energy giant into her arms
     
    The West had so much hubris they thought by controlling Russia's energy resources they could corner China. It worked out differently: Russia left with no other choice went fully with China. For the first time in 500 years West is not the dominant global power.

    The Rim has been fighting the Heartland for thousands of years, they usually lose or it is a stalemate. Grabbing Ukraine was the last realistic chance for the West to prevail. It has failed - all they are doing now is postponing the inevitable.

    The smarter Westies would give a lot to go back to 2010-15 and avoid making the catastrophic over-reach mistakes they made. But it doesn't work that way.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The fat lady has not yet sung. The soft power remains in the hand of Silly Valley. You may have given up on the Star Trekkers but the world has not yet done so. Sam Altman was the star at WEF and bitcoin is 65K.

    Anatoly Karlin of all people is now promoting anal sex.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    ...The fat lady has not yet sung.
     
    That's the thing, the fat lady actually never comes - she is only a linear chimera in your mind, a narrative to live instead of living in reality. People do that, it is easier that way, they often have multiple narratives to avoid the damn reality...one way it may be relevant is when older fat ladies take over a society, singing or not that society is finished. It doesn't work - even monkeys know it, they would laugh...

    West is f..ed, they shot themselves in the foot and when that became obvious, they shot a few more times into their own ranks just to make sure. Soft power is basically cultural attraction - yes, it is still somewhat present but it has peaked a few years back. Movies got nothing on blood.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Coconuts, @Philip Owen

  95. @songbird
    @songbird

    The North Atlantic right whale could still have its proportionate revenge on us, killing off a similar percentage of people.
    ________
    Have always thought of Robinson Crusoe as the most famous early novel. What is surprising is that it was a trilogy, with the second and third books written quickly to capitalize on the success of the first, so not disimilar to modern entertainment.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Robinson reads a little bit like an economics primer.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Wokechoke

    Robinson Crusoe is the central character in the beginning of Mises' Human Action.

    , @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    Wilkie Collins had a really funny character in The Moonstone who treated it like his Bible.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  96. @A123
    Housing costs in the U.S. are out of control. (1)

    Middle Class Can't Afford Homes In Nearly
    Half Of Top 100 US Metros, Study Finds

     

    In total, 41 out of the 100 metros require a gross annual income of $100,000 or more to qualify for an average home. In 13 metros, an average income of more than $155,000 is needed.
    ...
    Being considered “middle class” doesn’t carry the same significance as it did just a few years ago.

    “In the past, if you were middle class, it was almost assumed you would become a homeowner,” said Ali Wolf, chief economist of Zonda, a housing market research firm.

    “Today, the aspiration is still there, but it is a lot more difficult. You have to be wealthy or lucky.”

    That's all thanks to a “perfect storm” of elevated mortgage rates, sky-high home prices, and a lack of inventory, making housing more unaffordable.
     
    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/middle-class-cant-afford-homes-nearly-half-top-100-us-metros-study-finds

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson, @Solutions

    And the venture capital REIT company’s want to buy up all the current homeowners homes so they can drive up rents in a new feudal land baron / peasant system, God bless America!

    • Agree: A123
  97. @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Is it lack of intelligence? Or, deliberate malice?
     
    You don’t need elaborate conspiracy theories when simple stupidity explains everything satisfactorily.

    Replies: @A123

    You don’t need elaborate conspiracy theories when simple stupidity explains everything satisfactorily.

    Stupidity would be 50%/50%. Or, possibly 66%/33%.

    The performance of SJW Globalist elites is 95%+ against Judeo-Christian workers. That has to be more than simple stupidity.

    PEACE 😇

  98. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Robinson reads a little bit like an economics primer.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    Robinson Crusoe is the central character in the beginning of Mises’ Human Action.

  99. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    The fat lady has not yet sung. The soft power remains in the hand of Silly Valley. You may have given up on the Star Trekkers but the world has not yet done so. Sam Altman was the star at WEF and bitcoin is 65K.

    Anatoly Karlin of all people is now promoting anal sex.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …The fat lady has not yet sung.

    That’s the thing, the fat lady actually never comes – she is only a linear chimera in your mind, a narrative to live instead of living in reality. People do that, it is easier that way, they often have multiple narratives to avoid the damn reality…one way it may be relevant is when older fat ladies take over a society, singing or not that society is finished. It doesn’t work – even monkeys know it, they would laugh…

    West is f..ed, they shot themselves in the foot and when that became obvious, they shot a few more times into their own ranks just to make sure. Soft power is basically cultural attraction – yes, it is still somewhat present but it has peaked a few years back. Movies got nothing on blood.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent if you don't respect my fat lady analogy. Go ahead and short America. If you dare. I am tempted but I don't yet have the balls.

    Have you read Soros' Alchemy of Finance?

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Coconuts
    @Beckow


    West is f..ed...
     
    I can see it in racial terms, if 'the West' means the Latin, Germanic and Celtic racial groups. Almost certain that due to low birth rates and race mixing linked to immigration these groups will decline in size and relative power.

    But if the West doesn't have that racial meaning what Emil was saying could be right.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Philip Owen
    @Beckow

    Yet migration to Euro America climbs constantly.

  100. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    ...The fat lady has not yet sung.
     
    That's the thing, the fat lady actually never comes - she is only a linear chimera in your mind, a narrative to live instead of living in reality. People do that, it is easier that way, they often have multiple narratives to avoid the damn reality...one way it may be relevant is when older fat ladies take over a society, singing or not that society is finished. It doesn't work - even monkeys know it, they would laugh...

    West is f..ed, they shot themselves in the foot and when that became obvious, they shot a few more times into their own ranks just to make sure. Soft power is basically cultural attraction - yes, it is still somewhat present but it has peaked a few years back. Movies got nothing on blood.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Coconuts, @Philip Owen

    The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent if you don’t respect my fat lady analogy. Go ahead and short America. If you dare. I am tempted but I don’t yet have the balls.

    Have you read Soros’ Alchemy of Finance?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am shorting most the world, we are in a periodic downturn. A few places stand out but they are difficult to invest in - the logistics are not available and uncertain. US will do better than Europe as the dominant G7 core power. The dependencies will suffer more: Germany, UK, Italy...

    The market can stay irrational longer...

    The market is irrational, it has to be - it is a mental concept that exists only as a Plato's cave with shadows. We made it up as a tool and then deified it.

    I have not read Soros but I saw him speak. He wasn't that smart, just obsessive and weirdly bitter. He may be bi-polar.

  101. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Robinson reads a little bit like an economics primer.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    Wilkie Collins had a really funny character in The Moonstone who treated it like his Bible.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Defoe is just as prominent in that Shuchard book as Swift and Fielding. If I remember right Defoe was Whig and Swift was Tory. All the progressive literati were not on the same side and some of them were mortal enemies. Also: Swift (pseudonymously published) was known to be with the opposition but they never could get solid proof to put him away. They relentlessly spied on him and his publisher was locked up in the Tower of London for a period. I have to read that book again I enjoyed it so much. It is 725 pages and the inertia to open the thing up is immense.

    Yes progressive literati were in league with the government as often as opposed. Politics is inscrutable.

    Replies: @songbird

  102. Anyone yet seen this?

    It’s worth watching twice to see how Beevor hems and haws.

    Fascinating how Myrie is so clued in about Bucha. They discuss mass slaughter of civvies by Germany, Spanish civil war and Russian civil war. Then they discuss Bucha. Was this filmed before the Jews flattened Gaza or after though?

    I get a sense that a former Army officer like Beevor doesn’t think any Russian ever did anything right and Myrie wants to have his knighthood and eat it too.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack, Catdompanj
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    I get a sense that a former Army officer like Beevor doesn’t think any Russian ever did anything right and Myrie wants to have his knighthood and eat it too.
     
    Nothing new. Propaganda is always a pack of lies (that’s why nobody ever used times table for propaganda purposes – it’s true) and propagandists are paid in many ways by those who benefit by the propaganda. If the paymasters are powers-that-be, the pay is generous.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Wokechoke

    Is that Clive Myrie, the new black intellectual explainer on the block? Does University Challenge?

    He'd probably been well briefed in advance about Evil Russia's Bucha Massacre.

    "Was this filmed before the Jews flattened Gaza or after though?"

    Does it matter? Gaza is The Genocide Not To Be Named (if you want an establishment media career).

  103. @John Johnson
    @A123

    The DNC is the party of Wall Street. They do not care if workers are harmed by their policies. Migration, both legal and illegal, is good for elite Globalist bankers and financiers.

    And what is the Republican solution? Crack down on Wall Street?

    Let's hear the Republican solution to high housing costs:
    (crickets)

    The MAGA leader of the House just wrote Israel a check for 26 billion even though they have a budget surplus.

    Trump is currently in court over trying to pay off a porn star. He somehow couldn't do it without committing fraud. We haven't even gotten to the docs case and he is already flipping his lid.

    This would be a great time to take off the red hat and find a new hobby.

    It isn't going to get easier defending this NYC real estate con who was a Democrat most of his life. He not only supports globalist bankers but seems to think he should be allowed to commit fraud when dealing with them.

    Replies: @Negronicus, @Derer

    The DNC is a criminal entity going berserk after Trump and his supporters. They are going out of the realm of civilized political opposition of an adversary and resorting to dishonesty and criminality. The DNC huge appetite for power is never matched by their nonexistent accomplishments.

    Trump is a threat to their sovereign political reign. He was twice impeached by concocted schemes and in fact, in one case, for asking investigating Biden corruption and nepotism in Ukraine. Ironically VP Biden’s withholding the US aid to Ukraine if the investigator of Burisma is not fired, despite being documented, was ignored for impeachment – pathetic.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    The DNC is a criminal entity going berserk after Trump and his supporters. They are going out of the realm of civilized political opposition of an adversary and resorting to dishonesty and criminality.

    So you would describe Trump as someone that stays within civilized realms and avoids criminality?

    You do realize he is in court for committing fraud when trying to pay off a porn star? And that he is facing felonies for trying to destroy Federal evidence?

    The DNC and Trump deserve each other. Trump should switch back to being a Democrat.

    Trump is a NYC real estate con that was a better fit for the NYC Democrat sludge machine.

    Replies: @Derer

  104. @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    Doubtful, but time will tell. The (((yanks))) will be eager to take out the Kerch bridge as a symbolic gesture. If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AnonfromTN, @Derer

    The Russian response must be resolute and target snake head in Kiev arena.

  105. @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    Wilkie Collins had a really funny character in The Moonstone who treated it like his Bible.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Defoe is just as prominent in that Shuchard book as Swift and Fielding. If I remember right Defoe was Whig and Swift was Tory. All the progressive literati were not on the same side and some of them were mortal enemies. Also: Swift (pseudonymously published) was known to be with the opposition but they never could get solid proof to put him away. They relentlessly spied on him and his publisher was locked up in the Tower of London for a period. I have to read that book again I enjoyed it so much. It is 725 pages and the inertia to open the thing up is immense.

    Yes progressive literati were in league with the government as often as opposed. Politics is inscrutable.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It is funny how Defoe was placed in stocks or jail a few times and then became a government agent and was assigned to unify Scotland and England.

    I wonder if it was just propaganda and spying or whether he was entrusted to pay any bribes.

    But it is remarkable how many famous novelists through history wrote government propaganda. Sometimes, it seems like all of them.

    I think it continues to this day. Is there anything the government would disagree about in Harry Potter, etc?

  106. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.
     
    Possibly. Judging by much higher than before success of Russian strikes the flow of HUMINT from Ukrainian territory has greatly increased lately.

    Replies: @LondonBob, @Gerard1234

    Success breeds success, more people more likely to help if they know the Russians are coming, but I expect the greatly increased satellite coverage helps, as well as attrition of AD, allowing drones to surveil deep behind the lines.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    What's the story on greatly increased satellite coverage?

  107. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    ...The fat lady has not yet sung.
     
    That's the thing, the fat lady actually never comes - she is only a linear chimera in your mind, a narrative to live instead of living in reality. People do that, it is easier that way, they often have multiple narratives to avoid the damn reality...one way it may be relevant is when older fat ladies take over a society, singing or not that society is finished. It doesn't work - even monkeys know it, they would laugh...

    West is f..ed, they shot themselves in the foot and when that became obvious, they shot a few more times into their own ranks just to make sure. Soft power is basically cultural attraction - yes, it is still somewhat present but it has peaked a few years back. Movies got nothing on blood.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Coconuts, @Philip Owen

    West is f..ed…

    I can see it in racial terms, if ‘the West’ means the Latin, Germanic and Celtic racial groups. Almost certain that due to low birth rates and race mixing linked to immigration these groups will decline in size and relative power.

    But if the West doesn’t have that racial meaning what Emil was saying could be right.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Coconuts


    ...if the West doesn’t have that racial meaning
     
    Careful, if the West has no racial or ethnic meaning it doesn't exist. All power is ultimately traced back to relations and identity. We are tribal, small tribes and big tribes - but power is always organized by blood relations, real or imagined.

    It is hidden by layers of other stuff: alliances, rituals, resources, ideology, myths. Power is just the aim to dominate - Rome, colonials, church, it was all about that: to control others.

    If you strip the Latin, Germanic, Celtic 'racial' core from the West it ceases to exist - it transforms into something new, maybe better, but more likely given the components worse. Sunak is a hired impostor - given the likes of Scholz, Macron, Biden, the transformation was probably overdue. Let's see what they can do with it.

    Replies: @Coconuts

  108. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    The DNC is a criminal entity going berserk after Trump and his supporters. They are going out of the realm of civilized political opposition of an adversary and resorting to dishonesty and criminality. The DNC huge appetite for power is never matched by their nonexistent accomplishments.

    Trump is a threat to their sovereign political reign. He was twice impeached by concocted schemes and in fact, in one case, for asking investigating Biden corruption and nepotism in Ukraine. Ironically VP Biden's withholding the US aid to Ukraine if the investigator of Burisma is not fired, despite being documented, was ignored for impeachment - pathetic.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The DNC is a criminal entity going berserk after Trump and his supporters. They are going out of the realm of civilized political opposition of an adversary and resorting to dishonesty and criminality.

    So you would describe Trump as someone that stays within civilized realms and avoids criminality?

    You do realize he is in court for committing fraud when trying to pay off a porn star? And that he is facing felonies for trying to destroy Federal evidence?

    The DNC and Trump deserve each other. Trump should switch back to being a Democrat.

    Trump is a NYC real estate con that was a better fit for the NYC Democrat sludge machine.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    My support for Trump is fading...that doesn't mean that I condone the Democrats for criminally using DOJ and their media for harassing Trump so that he would fail his 2016 winning agenda and his 2024 reelection .

    The support for him is fading because he is sleeping in bed with Israel. The USA will never be crime-free for their unconditional support of reckless Israel. A character - that is using concocted victimhood for their advantage, while perpetrating the same crimes on Palestinians - cannot be supported.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

  109. @LondonBob
    @AnonfromTN

    Success breeds success, more people more likely to help if they know the Russians are coming, but I expect the greatly increased satellite coverage helps, as well as attrition of AD, allowing drones to surveil deep behind the lines.

    Replies: @QCIC

    What’s the story on greatly increased satellite coverage?

  110. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Defoe is just as prominent in that Shuchard book as Swift and Fielding. If I remember right Defoe was Whig and Swift was Tory. All the progressive literati were not on the same side and some of them were mortal enemies. Also: Swift (pseudonymously published) was known to be with the opposition but they never could get solid proof to put him away. They relentlessly spied on him and his publisher was locked up in the Tower of London for a period. I have to read that book again I enjoyed it so much. It is 725 pages and the inertia to open the thing up is immense.

    Yes progressive literati were in league with the government as often as opposed. Politics is inscrutable.

    Replies: @songbird

    It is funny how Defoe was placed in stocks or jail a few times and then became a government agent and was assigned to unify Scotland and England.

    I wonder if it was just propaganda and spying or whether he was entrusted to pay any bribes.

    But it is remarkable how many famous novelists through history wrote government propaganda. Sometimes, it seems like all of them.

    I think it continues to this day. Is there anything the government would disagree about in Harry Potter, etc?

  111. @A123
    @AnonfromTN


    The House approved the bill on “assistance” to Ukraine on Hitler’s birthday. Is someone willing to argue that this was a mere coincidence?
     
    It shows how schizophrenic American politics has become. The bill provides funding for the:

    • Immoral, losing cause of Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews
    • Moral, winning cause of Netanyahu, leader of Palestinian Jews

    It probably was coincidence. Was support for Kiev intended as tribute to Hitler? If so, the pairing with anti-Nazi funding to Palestinian Jews clouded the messaging.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    If it’s true that congress was responsible for enabling Ukrainian “Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews” to continue his “offensive war” against Putler’s Russia, then why do you sit so quietly about the person who enabled this whole thing to go down, Donald Trump?

    Mike Whitney does not seem to buy the kind of crap that you’ve been peddling here now for many months, about the superiority of Trump. and is able to clearly assign guilt where it belongs:

    The man who is most responsible for the $95 billion giveaway to Ukraine and Israel, is the same guy who pretends to oppose America’s “wasteful” foreign wars. Donald Trump. It was Trump who consulted with Speaker Mike Johnson about the contents of the Ukraine aid package, just as it was Trump who concocted the idea of issuing loans instead of dispersing the standard welfare handout. It was also Trump who said:

    “I stand with the Speaker, (Mike Johnson)” after which he added that Johnson is doing “a very good job.”

    Sometimes, a picture really is worth 1,000 words.

    • Troll: Derer
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    The dynamic duo, Trump and Johnson, mocking and laughing at loyal footsoldier kreminstoogeA123. He should take this time to polish up his "Islamo-Soros" conspiracy theories and quit waiving his pom-toms in front of Trump. :-)

  112. Is it weird that there are people in Israel with the given name Israel?

    Any similar examples in other countries?

  113. If you take some of these high schools that are very black, I wonder to what extent having all those military age men together (really anyone 14+ or even younger) is basically completely new historically, outside of actual military conflicts, where they might have mobilized several villages together.

    300-400 would have been a pretty respectable war band back in the day, even if it doesn’t come close to what the Zulu could organize. IMO, most of the conflicts would have been on that level, rather than with bigger armies.

    Probably true of a lot of places outside of Africa too. Large parts of Europe. High school really is a weird environment in evolutionary terms.

  114. @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    If it's true that congress was responsible for enabling Ukrainian "Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews" to continue his "offensive war" against Putler's Russia, then why do you sit so quietly about the person who enabled this whole thing to go down, Donald Trump?

    Mike Whitney does not seem to buy the kind of crap that you've been peddling here now for many months, about the superiority of Trump. and is able to clearly assign guilt where it belongs:


    The man who is most responsible for the $95 billion giveaway to Ukraine and Israel, is the same guy who pretends to oppose America’s “wasteful” foreign wars. Donald Trump. It was Trump who consulted with Speaker Mike Johnson about the contents of the Ukraine aid package, just as it was Trump who concocted the idea of issuing loans instead of dispersing the standard welfare handout. It was also Trump who said:

    “I stand with the Speaker, (Mike Johnson)” after which he added that Johnson is doing “a very good job.”
     

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/TrumpMikeJohnsonMW-600x565.png
    Sometimes, a picture really is worth 1,000 words.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The dynamic duo, Trump and Johnson, mocking and laughing at loyal footsoldier kreminstoogeA123. He should take this time to polish up his “Islamo-Soros” conspiracy theories and quit waiving his pom-toms in front of Trump. 🙂

    • LOL: John Johnson
  115. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent if you don't respect my fat lady analogy. Go ahead and short America. If you dare. I am tempted but I don't yet have the balls.

    Have you read Soros' Alchemy of Finance?

    Replies: @Beckow

    I am shorting most the world, we are in a periodic downturn. A few places stand out but they are difficult to invest in – the logistics are not available and uncertain. US will do better than Europe as the dominant G7 core power. The dependencies will suffer more: Germany, UK, Italy…

    The market can stay irrational longer…

    The market is irrational, it has to be – it is a mental concept that exists only as a Plato’s cave with shadows. We made it up as a tool and then deified it.

    I have not read Soros but I saw him speak. He wasn’t that smart, just obsessive and weirdly bitter. He may be bi-polar.

  116. @Coconuts
    @Beckow


    West is f..ed...
     
    I can see it in racial terms, if 'the West' means the Latin, Germanic and Celtic racial groups. Almost certain that due to low birth rates and race mixing linked to immigration these groups will decline in size and relative power.

    But if the West doesn't have that racial meaning what Emil was saying could be right.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …if the West doesn’t have that racial meaning

    Careful, if the West has no racial or ethnic meaning it doesn’t exist. All power is ultimately traced back to relations and identity. We are tribal, small tribes and big tribes – but power is always organized by blood relations, real or imagined.

    It is hidden by layers of other stuff: alliances, rituals, resources, ideology, myths. Power is just the aim to dominate – Rome, colonials, church, it was all about that: to control others.

    If you strip the Latin, Germanic, Celtic ‘racial’ core from the West it ceases to exist – it transforms into something new, maybe better, but more likely given the components worse. Sunak is a hired impostor – given the likes of Scholz, Macron, Biden, the transformation was probably overdue. Let’s see what they can do with it.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Beckow


    All power is ultimately traced back to relations and identity. We are tribal, small tribes and big tribes – but power is always organized by blood relations, real or imagined.
     
    The relationship between a mother or father and their child may be the prototype of political authority more broadly. Then one of the most basic purposes of politics is to secure the conditions for the perpetuation of families. But in the context of larger human communities these relations don't seem to be the same as familial ones, and political authority in these contexts is not identical to parental authority.

    Power can be also defined as the ability to act, exerting influence on the external world. I don't think it is always entails domination (this sounds like a postmodern understanding of power?). A mother or father obviously has power over their children, but the relationship is only considered one of domination when it is dysfunctional. With these larger scale human institutions, empires, the churches etc. they tend to come into existence to manage large scale political communities. The desire for these communities seems to follow from the idea that their existence is a good, as much as the domination aspect that is involved in them.

    If you strip the Latin, Germanic, Celtic ‘racial’ core from the West it ceases to exist...
     

    It seems to be more than the racial factor alone; if the Latin, Germanic and Celtic population remained fairly large, but substantial parts of it converted to Islam or for some reason adopted Arabic language (similar to the Mozarabes in Iberia during Islamic rule but on a bigger scale), then it feels like the West would also be in danger.

    As it is the West has gone through some significant changes already. Looking at the genealogy of the concept, it looks like it originates with the Western half of the Roman Empire, then switched to meaning Latin Christendom and later the 'Enlightenment' civilisation and culture that originated in England, France and the Netherlands. The most recent manifestation would be the sphere of American political leadership and hegemony that emerged after 1945.

    Replies: @Beckow

  117. @Wokechoke
    Anyone yet seen this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbGz2x_v1ho


    It’s worth watching twice to see how Beevor hems and haws.


    Fascinating how Myrie is so clued in about Bucha. They discuss mass slaughter of civvies by Germany, Spanish civil war and Russian civil war. Then they discuss Bucha. Was this filmed before the Jews flattened Gaza or after though?

    I get a sense that a former Army officer like Beevor doesn’t think any Russian ever did anything right and Myrie wants to have his knighthood and eat it too.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @YetAnotherAnon

    I get a sense that a former Army officer like Beevor doesn’t think any Russian ever did anything right and Myrie wants to have his knighthood and eat it too.

    Nothing new. Propaganda is always a pack of lies (that’s why nobody ever used times table for propaganda purposes – it’s true) and propagandists are paid in many ways by those who benefit by the propaganda. If the paymasters are powers-that-be, the pay is generous.

  118. AK is trying to uplift the cow, so that it will rule over Indians (and by extension much of the Anglophone world.)

    [MORE]

    Richie Sunak and Modi will be replaced by Buttercup and Gauri.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Will Buttercup have frickin' laser beams attached to her head? DrE wants to know.

    Replies: @songbird

  119. @songbird
    AK is trying to uplift the cow, so that it will rule over Indians (and by extension much of the Anglophone world.)
    https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1751077980133085195

    Richie Sunak and Modi will be replaced by Buttercup and Gauri.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Will Buttercup have frickin’ laser beams attached to her head? DrE wants to know.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    IMO, biogenineered cow-based global conquest would involve them secreting some addictive substance out of their mammary glands, sort of like ketracel white from DS9.

    Of course, if we are talking specifically about Indians, it could be other pathways.

  120. TV tower in Kharkov was destroyed by Russian mid-range guided cruise missile X-59. There is no more TV in Kharkov.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The lights are going out for the Nato-in-Ukraine show. They just got some funding for a sequel, about 1/5 of what they spent on the original. That will go over great.

    Can the Fed figure out how to issue virtual Ukie soldiers? The electronic 'fiat money' stuff is clearly not going to do it. It is all physical now.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  121. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Will Buttercup have frickin' laser beams attached to her head? DrE wants to know.

    Replies: @songbird

    IMO, biogenineered cow-based global conquest would involve them secreting some addictive substance out of their mammary glands, sort of like ketracel white from DS9.

    Of course, if we are talking specifically about Indians, it could be other pathways.

  122. @AnonfromTN
    TV tower in Kharkov was destroyed by Russian mid-range guided cruise missile X-59. There is no more TV in Kharkov.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The lights are going out for the Nato-in-Ukraine show. They just got some funding for a sequel, about 1/5 of what they spent on the original. That will go over great.

    Can the Fed figure out how to issue virtual Ukie soldiers? The electronic ‘fiat money’ stuff is clearly not going to do it. It is all physical now.

    • LOL: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Can the Fed figure out how to issue virtual Ukie soldiers?
     
    Ukraine is toast, but this “aid” is not about Ukraine. Lion’s share of the money called “aid” to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is going to the US MIC. Well-placed aborigines in those countries will be allowed to steal some (that’s what they serve for), but most of the money will be stolen right here in the US. The countries that are ostensibly aided are no more than fig leaves for the greedy MIC thieves.

    The US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host. Considering how rotten the US political system is (this includes Trump = Biden made obvious by this deal), this is like stage 4 cancer, no longer curable by any means. Libtard BS along with MAGA BS are just fairly ineffective painkillers for the dying patient. The main problem is not that Ukraine is toast, but that the US is toast.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

  123. It is strange how Bush’s “axis of evil” which was an unlikely grouping of marginalized countries Iraq, Iran, and NK, two of which had deep antagonisms, has been transformed by more recent Neocons into a strategic alliance of space and nuclear powers almost tantamount to the full continent of Eurasia.

    Is Mike Johnson the dumbest speaker ever? (Age adjusted)

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @songbird

    The original Bush’s axis of evil was a scream in the dark to find enemies. It dawned on the elite that without proper enemies the edifice can't be maintained: financial overstretch, lack of actual work and real production, centralized lying media.

    The evil ones had to be enlarged to make it credible. Russia or China were the only choices, but they didn't originally plan for both - they miscalculated and it makes fighting the conjured up evils almost hopeless (neos are not very smart).


    Is Mike Johnson the dumbest speaker ever?
     
    Probably. He looks like an earnest optometrist. But he has Jesus to fall back on. When the Second Coming finally arrives, he will be all right, halleluja...Technically it will be the First Coming, but who wants to quibble...
    , @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Yes that axis of can actually fight back and can’t be easily bullied.

    Replies: @songbird

  124. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The lights are going out for the Nato-in-Ukraine show. They just got some funding for a sequel, about 1/5 of what they spent on the original. That will go over great.

    Can the Fed figure out how to issue virtual Ukie soldiers? The electronic 'fiat money' stuff is clearly not going to do it. It is all physical now.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Can the Fed figure out how to issue virtual Ukie soldiers?

    Ukraine is toast, but this “aid” is not about Ukraine. Lion’s share of the money called “aid” to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is going to the US MIC. Well-placed aborigines in those countries will be allowed to steal some (that’s what they serve for), but most of the money will be stolen right here in the US. The countries that are ostensibly aided are no more than fig leaves for the greedy MIC thieves.

    The US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host. Considering how rotten the US political system is (this includes Trump = Biden made obvious by this deal), this is like stage 4 cancer, no longer curable by any means. Libtard BS along with MAGA BS are just fairly ineffective painkillers for the dying patient. The main problem is not that Ukraine is toast, but that the US is toast.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host.
     
    MIC is one of the biggest but the West is swarming with parasites of all kind, most not as dangerous. Surplus prosperity encourages parasites to thrive. Check-out the late 18th century French 'privileges', or Rome and the later stages of commie-stagnation. Everyone wants to be outside of the nitty-gritty competitive economy (they lie when they deny it), and rent-seeking is the safest profession. One Patriot is $1.5 billion, what do you think is its real profit margin? It sure beats selling macchiatos...

    The main problem is not that Ukraine is toast, but that the US is toast.
     
    You got that right. It wouldn't be the first time that a great power self-destructed over a maniacal obsession with pride and not losing face. I still think most of the West could retire intact from the Ukie fiasco. Some won't be able to because they got into it too deep.

    West used to pride itself on its resilience - the secret weapon for Rome and later colonial powers. They would fall and get up, again and again. Maybe they still got it.

    But the Ukies are toast. I will miss them - their yearning was so sincere one almost has sympathy. But they have been too emotional and clumsy in the implementation Hint: wait with massacres until after you win and don't celebrate it. Say it was a "mistake".

    , @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Ukraine is toast, but this “aid” is not about Ukraine. Lion’s share of the money called “aid” to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is going to the US MIC.

    And that's how they got so many Republicans on board.

    What Ukraine needs the most is artillery and ATACMs which are on the way.

    This was a classic pork sandwich.

    Biden wanted 13 billion in military defense for Ukraine. He didn't ask for 61.

    Makes more sense to give them what they need and then re-assess after the election.

    Moscow Marjorie clearly has a sandy vagina over the bill but no one cares. Trump didn't make the call and let it go. The MAGA losers were sidelined and don't want to face the fact that Trump didn't back them.

    The US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host.

    Are you going to give us the annual "Dollar is doomed" speech with that statement?

    Ukraine is still getting over 100 F-16s from various countries so it's looking like a great year to die for your dictator.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzXbTfgoMac

    Replies: @Beckow, @songbird

  125. @Beckow
    @Coconuts


    ...if the West doesn’t have that racial meaning
     
    Careful, if the West has no racial or ethnic meaning it doesn't exist. All power is ultimately traced back to relations and identity. We are tribal, small tribes and big tribes - but power is always organized by blood relations, real or imagined.

    It is hidden by layers of other stuff: alliances, rituals, resources, ideology, myths. Power is just the aim to dominate - Rome, colonials, church, it was all about that: to control others.

    If you strip the Latin, Germanic, Celtic 'racial' core from the West it ceases to exist - it transforms into something new, maybe better, but more likely given the components worse. Sunak is a hired impostor - given the likes of Scholz, Macron, Biden, the transformation was probably overdue. Let's see what they can do with it.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    All power is ultimately traced back to relations and identity. We are tribal, small tribes and big tribes – but power is always organized by blood relations, real or imagined.

    The relationship between a mother or father and their child may be the prototype of political authority more broadly. Then one of the most basic purposes of politics is to secure the conditions for the perpetuation of families. But in the context of larger human communities these relations don’t seem to be the same as familial ones, and political authority in these contexts is not identical to parental authority.

    Power can be also defined as the ability to act, exerting influence on the external world. I don’t think it is always entails domination (this sounds like a postmodern understanding of power?). A mother or father obviously has power over their children, but the relationship is only considered one of domination when it is dysfunctional. With these larger scale human institutions, empires, the churches etc. they tend to come into existence to manage large scale political communities. The desire for these communities seems to follow from the idea that their existence is a good, as much as the domination aspect that is involved in them.

    If you strip the Latin, Germanic, Celtic ‘racial’ core from the West it ceases to exist…

    It seems to be more than the racial factor alone; if the Latin, Germanic and Celtic population remained fairly large, but substantial parts of it converted to Islam or for some reason adopted Arabic language (similar to the Mozarabes in Iberia during Islamic rule but on a bigger scale), then it feels like the West would also be in danger.

    As it is the West has gone through some significant changes already. Looking at the genealogy of the concept, it looks like it originates with the Western half of the Roman Empire, then switched to meaning Latin Christendom and later the ‘Enlightenment’ civilisation and culture that originated in England, France and the Netherlands. The most recent manifestation would be the sphere of American political leadership and hegemony that emerged after 1945.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Coconuts

    I was talking about power in the context of states or empires. There are other contexts, but for a country to have power is to dominate others - tell them what to do, how to live, who can be their leaders, etc...The West (lately mostly US) had that power for a few previous decades all around the world. E.g. Yeltsin was their approved guy or the US businessmen had effective global immunity.

    It has ended - the resistance to the Western power has won. It is too early to see how exactly will the world organize now.


    the West originated with the Western half of the Roman Empire, then switched to meaning Latin Christendom and later the ‘Enlightenment’...in England, France, Netherlands. The most recent manifestation would be the sphere of American political leadership and hegemony that emerged after 1945.
     
    True, but you skipped over the German part that was quite important. Some of the most "Western" memes are associated with Germany... :)

    If the West transforms into a post-Christian mixed population hodge-podge of everyone from around the world - it seems to want that - it will be a transformation too far, it will not be the West any more. Bolivia, Mumbai, Dubai or Singapore are not Western no matter how much they try. The key is that once enough of the ethnic continuity is gone the civilization changes - not necessarily for the better.

    Replies: @Coconuts

  126. @songbird
    It is strange how Bush's "axis of evil" which was an unlikely grouping of marginalized countries Iraq, Iran, and NK, two of which had deep antagonisms, has been transformed by more recent Neocons into a strategic alliance of space and nuclear powers almost tantamount to the full continent of Eurasia.

    Is Mike Johnson the dumbest speaker ever? (Age adjusted)

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    The original Bush’s axis of evil was a scream in the dark to find enemies. It dawned on the elite that without proper enemies the edifice can’t be maintained: financial overstretch, lack of actual work and real production, centralized lying media.

    The evil ones had to be enlarged to make it credible. Russia or China were the only choices, but they didn’t originally plan for both – they miscalculated and it makes fighting the conjured up evils almost hopeless (neos are not very smart).

    Is Mike Johnson the dumbest speaker ever?

    Probably. He looks like an earnest optometrist. But he has Jesus to fall back on. When the Second Coming finally arrives, he will be all right, halleluja…Technically it will be the First Coming, but who wants to quibble…

  127. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    ...The fat lady has not yet sung.
     
    That's the thing, the fat lady actually never comes - she is only a linear chimera in your mind, a narrative to live instead of living in reality. People do that, it is easier that way, they often have multiple narratives to avoid the damn reality...one way it may be relevant is when older fat ladies take over a society, singing or not that society is finished. It doesn't work - even monkeys know it, they would laugh...

    West is f..ed, they shot themselves in the foot and when that became obvious, they shot a few more times into their own ranks just to make sure. Soft power is basically cultural attraction - yes, it is still somewhat present but it has peaked a few years back. Movies got nothing on blood.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Coconuts, @Philip Owen

    Yet migration to Euro America climbs constantly.

  128. New topic, maybe Anatoly or Ron will weigh in.

    Tucker Carlson is unequivocally saying that he believes the US government is in contact with aliens. I don’t keep up with the aliens topic so this caught me by surprise.

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    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    He explicitly says not aliens, celestial beings. Spoke to a cosmonaut who talked about the weird and wonderful phenomena he saw in space, that couldn't be explained.

    Replies: @QCIC

  129. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Can the Fed figure out how to issue virtual Ukie soldiers?
     
    Ukraine is toast, but this “aid” is not about Ukraine. Lion’s share of the money called “aid” to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is going to the US MIC. Well-placed aborigines in those countries will be allowed to steal some (that’s what they serve for), but most of the money will be stolen right here in the US. The countries that are ostensibly aided are no more than fig leaves for the greedy MIC thieves.

    The US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host. Considering how rotten the US political system is (this includes Trump = Biden made obvious by this deal), this is like stage 4 cancer, no longer curable by any means. Libtard BS along with MAGA BS are just fairly ineffective painkillers for the dying patient. The main problem is not that Ukraine is toast, but that the US is toast.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    …US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host.

    MIC is one of the biggest but the West is swarming with parasites of all kind, most not as dangerous. Surplus prosperity encourages parasites to thrive. Check-out the late 18th century French ‘privileges’, or Rome and the later stages of commie-stagnation. Everyone wants to be outside of the nitty-gritty competitive economy (they lie when they deny it), and rent-seeking is the safest profession. One Patriot is $1.5 billion, what do you think is its real profit margin? It sure beats selling macchiatos…

    The main problem is not that Ukraine is toast, but that the US is toast.

    You got that right. It wouldn’t be the first time that a great power self-destructed over a maniacal obsession with pride and not losing face. I still think most of the West could retire intact from the Ukie fiasco. Some won’t be able to because they got into it too deep.

    West used to pride itself on its resilience – the secret weapon for Rome and later colonial powers. They would fall and get up, again and again. Maybe they still got it.

    But the Ukies are toast. I will miss them – their yearning was so sincere one almost has sympathy. But they have been too emotional and clumsy in the implementation Hint: wait with massacres until after you win and don’t celebrate it. Say it was a “mistake”.

  130. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Can the Fed figure out how to issue virtual Ukie soldiers?
     
    Ukraine is toast, but this “aid” is not about Ukraine. Lion’s share of the money called “aid” to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is going to the US MIC. Well-placed aborigines in those countries will be allowed to steal some (that’s what they serve for), but most of the money will be stolen right here in the US. The countries that are ostensibly aided are no more than fig leaves for the greedy MIC thieves.

    The US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host. Considering how rotten the US political system is (this includes Trump = Biden made obvious by this deal), this is like stage 4 cancer, no longer curable by any means. Libtard BS along with MAGA BS are just fairly ineffective painkillers for the dying patient. The main problem is not that Ukraine is toast, but that the US is toast.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    Ukraine is toast, but this “aid” is not about Ukraine. Lion’s share of the money called “aid” to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is going to the US MIC.

    And that’s how they got so many Republicans on board.

    What Ukraine needs the most is artillery and ATACMs which are on the way.

    This was a classic pork sandwich.

    Biden wanted 13 billion in military defense for Ukraine. He didn’t ask for 61.

    Makes more sense to give them what they need and then re-assess after the election.

    Moscow Marjorie clearly has a sandy vagina over the bill but no one cares. Trump didn’t make the call and let it go. The MAGA losers were sidelined and don’t want to face the fact that Trump didn’t back them.

    The US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host.

    Are you going to give us the annual “Dollar is doomed” speech with that statement?

    Ukraine is still getting over 100 F-16s from various countries so it’s looking like a great year to die for your dictator.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    I don't know what war you are observing but Russia is winning the one in Ukraine. 100 F-16's? Where? I have not seen any in action. The money is not very relevant and more western weapons only delay the inevitable defeat.

    Or do you think Kiev still has a shot to win? Everything else is noise of no importance in the long run. There are only two ways Kiev-Nato could stop the defeat: pro-Western liberals staging a coup in Moscow (fat chance) or going nuclear. Both are unlikely.

    The main unknown is how far will Russia go and what will they leave of the pre-war Ukraine - almost certainly neutral. And how many will die before it is formalized.

    If you think that a few weeks delay is worth printing $60 billion in "new money" you are welcome. It makes no difference with $34 trillion in the US debt. How can it be paid back? At some point ($40 trillion?) the foreign buyers of the US bonds will quietly disappear or you will have to hold a gun to them to keep on buying.

    It is not about what you or I think, this is simply math. That $34 trillion is real dent - people count on it as investments, their wealth, etc...if it loses value there will be a hell to pay. Don't be so blase about the exploding US debt - it could come back to bite you.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

    , @songbird
    @John Johnson


    Are you going to give us the annual “Dollar is doomed” speech with that statement?
     
    Already happened. Dollar stores have gone the way of five and dimes. The dollar is literally worth shit now. You can't even get 3 first class stamps for $2.

    There's room to get worse, but not really room to get better.

    What will it be worth, after the Tubman twenty debuts, and the Chinese, Indians, and other people see it?

    BTW, do you know that the most common bill in circulation now is actually the $100? (The current highest legal tender denomination.) How long until they add another zero? Perhaps, digital is a workaround.
  131. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Ukraine is toast, but this “aid” is not about Ukraine. Lion’s share of the money called “aid” to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is going to the US MIC.

    And that's how they got so many Republicans on board.

    What Ukraine needs the most is artillery and ATACMs which are on the way.

    This was a classic pork sandwich.

    Biden wanted 13 billion in military defense for Ukraine. He didn't ask for 61.

    Makes more sense to give them what they need and then re-assess after the election.

    Moscow Marjorie clearly has a sandy vagina over the bill but no one cares. Trump didn't make the call and let it go. The MAGA losers were sidelined and don't want to face the fact that Trump didn't back them.

    The US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host.

    Are you going to give us the annual "Dollar is doomed" speech with that statement?

    Ukraine is still getting over 100 F-16s from various countries so it's looking like a great year to die for your dictator.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzXbTfgoMac

    Replies: @Beckow, @songbird

    I don’t know what war you are observing but Russia is winning the one in Ukraine. 100 F-16’s? Where? I have not seen any in action. The money is not very relevant and more western weapons only delay the inevitable defeat.

    Or do you think Kiev still has a shot to win? Everything else is noise of no importance in the long run. There are only two ways Kiev-Nato could stop the defeat: pro-Western liberals staging a coup in Moscow (fat chance) or going nuclear. Both are unlikely.

    The main unknown is how far will Russia go and what will they leave of the pre-war Ukraine – almost certainly neutral. And how many will die before it is formalized.

    If you think that a few weeks delay is worth printing $60 billion in “new money” you are welcome. It makes no difference with $34 trillion in the US debt. How can it be paid back? At some point ($40 trillion?) the foreign buyers of the US bonds will quietly disappear or you will have to hold a gun to them to keep on buying.

    It is not about what you or I think, this is simply math. That $34 trillion is real dent – people count on it as investments, their wealth, etc…if it loses value there will be a hell to pay. Don’t be so blase about the exploding US debt – it could come back to bite you.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I don’t know what war you are observing
     
    Arguing with a pre-programmed thing? Try a philosophical dispute with a lamp-post. It might be more receptive to the reality and your arguments.
    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    I don’t know what war you are observing but Russia is winning the one in Ukraine.

    I don't see how Russia is winning when Putin stated that the war was needed to stop NATO from expanding East which already happened. That was the clearly defined justification of the war made by Putin in his invasion speech. I will hold Putin to his word and not to the constantly moving goalposts of his fans.

    Lavrov the other day was talking about the need for a demilitarized zone between the two countries which shows that a march on Kiev is highly unlikely.

    That would put Ukraine closer to qualifying for NATO and Putin at best would get an Eastern chunk which by his own statements for the war means he cannot win. That would be closer to an armistice.

    I hold Putin by his own clearly outlined goals for the war and can source them if anyone would like. He described NATO as a geographic threat and NATO has already expanded East via Finland.

    If he can somehow talk Finland into leaving then I will reassess.

    100 F-16’s? Where? I have not seen any in action.

    Most of the F-16s have not arrived. Denmark and the Netherlands alone will be donating over 50. There are surplus F-16s in all NATO countries. We have over 1000 of them.

    If you think that a few weeks delay is worth printing $60 billion in “new money” you are welcome.

    You can call it funny money but it really doesn't make a difference since the 155mm shells that fall on Russians will be real.

    That is what Ukraine needs and it is on the way.

    That's in addition to the Czechs providing them with another 1.5 million:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-16/czech-plan-may-bring-1-5-million-shells-to-ukraine-premier-says

    The main unknown is how far will Russia go and what will they leave of the pre-war Ukraine – almost certainly neutral.

    They've already offered to allow the current lines which shows that Putin defenders who hope for a capitulation of Ukraine will most likely be disappointed. All evidence suggests that Putin wants to take the rest of the former DPR (it no longer exists as a Republic as Putin promised) and he is unlikely to try for Odessa. A Gallipoli style attack needed to happen by now. His generals most likely concluded it was too risky due to NATO satellites but then Putin has called for stupid plans that ignored his generals like the Kiev invasion. Unlikely but entirely possible since Putin is a lazy ego maniac and didn't even bother to learn the military lessons of WW1.

    How can it be paid back? At some point ($40 trillion?) the foreign buyers of the US bonds will quietly disappear or you will have to hold a gun to them to keep on buying.

    I'm not a fan of deficit spending but they can always cut the military budget if the bond rating drops. A 5% across the board cut for all Federal agencies would also do it.

    If this was my bill I would have given $1 to Israel in the form of a day old bagel and doubled the amount of artillery to Ukraine long with all of our ATACMs. 10 billion would be plenty.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/23042024-alexander-motyl-is-dead-wrong-about-jd-vance-and-russia-ukraine-oped/

  132. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    I don't know what war you are observing but Russia is winning the one in Ukraine. 100 F-16's? Where? I have not seen any in action. The money is not very relevant and more western weapons only delay the inevitable defeat.

    Or do you think Kiev still has a shot to win? Everything else is noise of no importance in the long run. There are only two ways Kiev-Nato could stop the defeat: pro-Western liberals staging a coup in Moscow (fat chance) or going nuclear. Both are unlikely.

    The main unknown is how far will Russia go and what will they leave of the pre-war Ukraine - almost certainly neutral. And how many will die before it is formalized.

    If you think that a few weeks delay is worth printing $60 billion in "new money" you are welcome. It makes no difference with $34 trillion in the US debt. How can it be paid back? At some point ($40 trillion?) the foreign buyers of the US bonds will quietly disappear or you will have to hold a gun to them to keep on buying.

    It is not about what you or I think, this is simply math. That $34 trillion is real dent - people count on it as investments, their wealth, etc...if it loses value there will be a hell to pay. Don't be so blase about the exploding US debt - it could come back to bite you.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

    I don’t know what war you are observing

    Arguing with a pre-programmed thing? Try a philosophical dispute with a lamp-post. It might be more receptive to the reality and your arguments.

  133. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Ukraine is toast, but this “aid” is not about Ukraine. Lion’s share of the money called “aid” to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is going to the US MIC.

    And that's how they got so many Republicans on board.

    What Ukraine needs the most is artillery and ATACMs which are on the way.

    This was a classic pork sandwich.

    Biden wanted 13 billion in military defense for Ukraine. He didn't ask for 61.

    Makes more sense to give them what they need and then re-assess after the election.

    Moscow Marjorie clearly has a sandy vagina over the bill but no one cares. Trump didn't make the call and let it go. The MAGA losers were sidelined and don't want to face the fact that Trump didn't back them.

    The US MIC is a textbook example of a parasite killing the host.

    Are you going to give us the annual "Dollar is doomed" speech with that statement?

    Ukraine is still getting over 100 F-16s from various countries so it's looking like a great year to die for your dictator.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzXbTfgoMac

    Replies: @Beckow, @songbird

    Are you going to give us the annual “Dollar is doomed” speech with that statement?

    Already happened. Dollar stores have gone the way of five and dimes. The dollar is literally worth shit now. You can’t even get 3 first class stamps for $2.

    There’s room to get worse, but not really room to get better.

    What will it be worth, after the Tubman twenty debuts, and the Chinese, Indians, and other people see it?

    BTW, do you know that the most common bill in circulation now is actually the $100? (The current highest legal tender denomination.) How long until they add another zero? Perhaps, digital is a workaround.

  134. Sher Singh’s car spotted:

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  135. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    The DNC is a criminal entity going berserk after Trump and his supporters. They are going out of the realm of civilized political opposition of an adversary and resorting to dishonesty and criminality.

    So you would describe Trump as someone that stays within civilized realms and avoids criminality?

    You do realize he is in court for committing fraud when trying to pay off a porn star? And that he is facing felonies for trying to destroy Federal evidence?

    The DNC and Trump deserve each other. Trump should switch back to being a Democrat.

    Trump is a NYC real estate con that was a better fit for the NYC Democrat sludge machine.

    Replies: @Derer

    My support for Trump is fading…that doesn’t mean that I condone the Democrats for criminally using DOJ and their media for harassing Trump so that he would fail his 2016 winning agenda and his 2024 reelection .

    The support for him is fading because he is sleeping in bed with Israel. The USA will never be crime-free for their unconditional support of reckless Israel. A character – that is using concocted victimhood for their advantage, while perpetrating the same crimes on Palestinians – cannot be supported.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Derer


    My support for Trump is fading…
     
    The only thing I saw going for Trump was that libtard scum hated him. The latest “aid deal” shows that Trump is shit, while Biden is a corrupt demented shit. Same difference.
    , @John Johnson
    @Derer

    My support for Trump is fading…that doesn’t mean that I condone the Democrats for criminally using DOJ and their media for harassing Trump so that he would fail his 2016 winning agenda and his 2024 reelection .

    I don't have to pick between a dishonest real estate con artist and a dishonest media.

    Trump not only had the chance to become a populist alternative to both parties but he actually had the power to change the media. Instead he became the very type of swamp creature he railed against.

    I will call it like I see it and I will shrug if it pisses off people on both sides. I'm used to it.

    I will consider how I vote when we are in September. A lot could happen between now and then. Trump could be in prison and I also wouldn't put it past the DNC to pull Biden at the last minute as part of a scheme. Let's not forget they were actually caught cheating with Hillary.

    The support for him is fading because he is sleeping in bed with Israel.

    Americans want a ceasefire and Trump is on the side of sending Israel military aid. Why do they need military aid? They are fighting Arabs in tank tops. They haven't even asked for aid. Our Rapture Ready MAGA Republicans are nucking futs and Trump is making a huge mistake in siding with them instead of going after independents.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  136. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    My support for Trump is fading...that doesn't mean that I condone the Democrats for criminally using DOJ and their media for harassing Trump so that he would fail his 2016 winning agenda and his 2024 reelection .

    The support for him is fading because he is sleeping in bed with Israel. The USA will never be crime-free for their unconditional support of reckless Israel. A character - that is using concocted victimhood for their advantage, while perpetrating the same crimes on Palestinians - cannot be supported.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    My support for Trump is fading…

    The only thing I saw going for Trump was that libtard scum hated him. The latest “aid deal” shows that Trump is shit, while Biden is a corrupt demented shit. Same difference.

  137. @QCIC
    New topic, maybe Anatoly or Ron will weigh in.

    Tucker Carlson is unequivocally saying that he believes the US government is in contact with aliens. I don't keep up with the aliens topic so this caught me by surprise.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDmdREn7VDo

    Replies: @LondonBob

    He explicitly says not aliens, celestial beings. Spoke to a cosmonaut who talked about the weird and wonderful phenomena he saw in space, that couldn’t be explained.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    Can you give any details?

    Replies: @LondonBob

  138. Today is the third day the fire ignited by a Russian strike is raging in Yuzhnyi (means Southern) port in Odessa region. The firefighters came almost at once, but…

  139. @Coconuts
    @Beckow


    All power is ultimately traced back to relations and identity. We are tribal, small tribes and big tribes – but power is always organized by blood relations, real or imagined.
     
    The relationship between a mother or father and their child may be the prototype of political authority more broadly. Then one of the most basic purposes of politics is to secure the conditions for the perpetuation of families. But in the context of larger human communities these relations don't seem to be the same as familial ones, and political authority in these contexts is not identical to parental authority.

    Power can be also defined as the ability to act, exerting influence on the external world. I don't think it is always entails domination (this sounds like a postmodern understanding of power?). A mother or father obviously has power over their children, but the relationship is only considered one of domination when it is dysfunctional. With these larger scale human institutions, empires, the churches etc. they tend to come into existence to manage large scale political communities. The desire for these communities seems to follow from the idea that their existence is a good, as much as the domination aspect that is involved in them.

    If you strip the Latin, Germanic, Celtic ‘racial’ core from the West it ceases to exist...
     

    It seems to be more than the racial factor alone; if the Latin, Germanic and Celtic population remained fairly large, but substantial parts of it converted to Islam or for some reason adopted Arabic language (similar to the Mozarabes in Iberia during Islamic rule but on a bigger scale), then it feels like the West would also be in danger.

    As it is the West has gone through some significant changes already. Looking at the genealogy of the concept, it looks like it originates with the Western half of the Roman Empire, then switched to meaning Latin Christendom and later the 'Enlightenment' civilisation and culture that originated in England, France and the Netherlands. The most recent manifestation would be the sphere of American political leadership and hegemony that emerged after 1945.

    Replies: @Beckow

    I was talking about power in the context of states or empires. There are other contexts, but for a country to have power is to dominate others – tell them what to do, how to live, who can be their leaders, etc…The West (lately mostly US) had that power for a few previous decades all around the world. E.g. Yeltsin was their approved guy or the US businessmen had effective global immunity.

    It has ended – the resistance to the Western power has won. It is too early to see how exactly will the world organize now.

    the West originated with the Western half of the Roman Empire, then switched to meaning Latin Christendom and later the ‘Enlightenment’…in England, France, Netherlands. The most recent manifestation would be the sphere of American political leadership and hegemony that emerged after 1945.

    True, but you skipped over the German part that was quite important. Some of the most “Western” memes are associated with Germany… 🙂

    If the West transforms into a post-Christian mixed population hodge-podge of everyone from around the world – it seems to want that – it will be a transformation too far, it will not be the West any more. Bolivia, Mumbai, Dubai or Singapore are not Western no matter how much they try. The key is that once enough of the ethnic continuity is gone the civilization changes – not necessarily for the better.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Beckow


    There are other contexts, but for a country to have power is to dominate others...
     
    It seems that the US has been able to wield power and influence, because people found their economic and social model desirable and wanted their investment. When the US has tried to use coercion, domination in the obvious sense, it has been much less successful (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan).

    It has ended – the resistance to the Western power has won.
     
    This sort of sounds like they were fighting a partisan war against 'Western power'. But the Chinese 'resistance' has been successful by opening up to trade with the West and entwinning its economy with the US, i.e. China vs. the US looks as much like business rivalry or possibly a turf war between gangsters as it does a guerilla war of the past.

    True, but you skipped over the German part that was quite important. Some of the most “Western” memes are associated with Germany…
     
    Like Marxism? The Germans did contribute some of the great Enlightenment thinkers, Kant, Leibniz, Hegel and later Marx. There was another side to Germany's relationship with the Western (French) Enlightenment that was more hostile:

    The (German) Romantic mentality irresistibly impelled toward the remaining possibility: the definition of the West as the anti-model, the incarnation of evil, of all the values of Aufklarung that Romanticism rejected for its own reasons.


    Bolivia, Mumbai, Dubai or Singapore are not Western no matter how much they try.
     
    I think Bolivia has been semi-Western since Spanish colonisation. I would say those others can't be Western because they are part of separate civilisations (Islamic, Hindu, East Asian) and so far have only sought to incorporate some Western elements.

    I agreed earlier that the West will be diminished by the growth of the influence of these civilisations within it and the shrinking of the Germanic, Latin etc. groups. It could break up the current West as European identity is redefined in opposition to Islamic and Sub-Saharan African, something that shouldn't be such a big issue on the other side of the Atlantic. At the same time I still doubt that the concept of the West is reducible to the members of the three racial groups that have been and remain its substrate.

  140. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    I don't know what war you are observing but Russia is winning the one in Ukraine. 100 F-16's? Where? I have not seen any in action. The money is not very relevant and more western weapons only delay the inevitable defeat.

    Or do you think Kiev still has a shot to win? Everything else is noise of no importance in the long run. There are only two ways Kiev-Nato could stop the defeat: pro-Western liberals staging a coup in Moscow (fat chance) or going nuclear. Both are unlikely.

    The main unknown is how far will Russia go and what will they leave of the pre-war Ukraine - almost certainly neutral. And how many will die before it is formalized.

    If you think that a few weeks delay is worth printing $60 billion in "new money" you are welcome. It makes no difference with $34 trillion in the US debt. How can it be paid back? At some point ($40 trillion?) the foreign buyers of the US bonds will quietly disappear or you will have to hold a gun to them to keep on buying.

    It is not about what you or I think, this is simply math. That $34 trillion is real dent - people count on it as investments, their wealth, etc...if it loses value there will be a hell to pay. Don't be so blase about the exploding US debt - it could come back to bite you.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

    I don’t know what war you are observing but Russia is winning the one in Ukraine.

    I don’t see how Russia is winning when Putin stated that the war was needed to stop NATO from expanding East which already happened. That was the clearly defined justification of the war made by Putin in his invasion speech. I will hold Putin to his word and not to the constantly moving goalposts of his fans.

    Lavrov the other day was talking about the need for a demilitarized zone between the two countries which shows that a march on Kiev is highly unlikely.

    That would put Ukraine closer to qualifying for NATO and Putin at best would get an Eastern chunk which by his own statements for the war means he cannot win. That would be closer to an armistice.

    I hold Putin by his own clearly outlined goals for the war and can source them if anyone would like. He described NATO as a geographic threat and NATO has already expanded East via Finland.

    If he can somehow talk Finland into leaving then I will reassess.

    100 F-16’s? Where? I have not seen any in action.

    Most of the F-16s have not arrived. Denmark and the Netherlands alone will be donating over 50. There are surplus F-16s in all NATO countries. We have over 1000 of them.

    If you think that a few weeks delay is worth printing $60 billion in “new money” you are welcome.

    You can call it funny money but it really doesn’t make a difference since the 155mm shells that fall on Russians will be real.

    That is what Ukraine needs and it is on the way.

    That’s in addition to the Czechs providing them with another 1.5 million:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-16/czech-plan-may-bring-1-5-million-shells-to-ukraine-premier-says

    The main unknown is how far will Russia go and what will they leave of the pre-war Ukraine – almost certainly neutral.

    They’ve already offered to allow the current lines which shows that Putin defenders who hope for a capitulation of Ukraine will most likely be disappointed. All evidence suggests that Putin wants to take the rest of the former DPR (it no longer exists as a Republic as Putin promised) and he is unlikely to try for Odessa. A Gallipoli style attack needed to happen by now. His generals most likely concluded it was too risky due to NATO satellites but then Putin has called for stupid plans that ignored his generals like the Kiev invasion. Unlikely but entirely possible since Putin is a lazy ego maniac and didn’t even bother to learn the military lessons of WW1.

    How can it be paid back? At some point ($40 trillion?) the foreign buyers of the US bonds will quietly disappear or you will have to hold a gun to them to keep on buying.

    I’m not a fan of deficit spending but they can always cut the military budget if the bond rating drops. A 5% across the board cut for all Federal agencies would also do it.

    If this was my bill I would have given $1 to Israel in the form of a day old bagel and doubled the amount of artillery to Ukraine long with all of our ATACMs. 10 billion would be plenty.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...the war was needed to stop NATO from expanding East which already happened
     
    Nato expanding to Ukraine was stopped. A clear win for Russia for now. You are hiding in the consolation of Finland that was already de facto in Nato. Maybe you can talk Austria into joining...

    they offered to allow the current lines
     
    They didn't, it is the West begging for a ceasefire by desperate "leaks". You are one gullible guy. Russia has not since 'Stambul in 2022 offered to freeze the lines. They explicitly said that they will not agree to it. So why do you lie?

    The demilitarized zone means no Nato and no weapons - Russia will make it as big as they can handle. Before it is defined your silly speculations and just feel-good hopes. You may be disappointed, I very much doubt that even Lviv would be in Nato. Get real, you are losing.

    Czechs providing them with another 1.5 million...Czech plan to...
     
    Maybe 10% of that will actually happen. Czechs "plan" but nothing ever happens. Stop hallucinating, we know our brown-nosing Czechs better than anyone...:) General Pavel was a solid commie, his dad was the main Soviet cheerleader, the head of the Czech commie military intelligence - leopards never change their spots, the Czech spot has something to do with pointless brown-nosing. They never deliver.

    they can always cut the military budget if the bond rating drops. A 5% across the board cut for all Federal agencies would also do it.
     
    It wouldn't do it, the debt is growing by half trillion per quarter. You are not good with numbers - 1 trillion interest is the same as the military budget and 5% cut would only save $350 million (only discretionary can be cut). The numbers just aren't there. You can default or have two-digit inflation for 5-10 years - both option would seriously undermine US ability to sell bonds. You are stuck. The only way US can keep issuing debt is with military force - and the only people left to do it to are the allies, Germany, Belgium, Japan...that's the crazy irony of the situation. You screwed up.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  141. @songbird
    It is strange how Bush's "axis of evil" which was an unlikely grouping of marginalized countries Iraq, Iran, and NK, two of which had deep antagonisms, has been transformed by more recent Neocons into a strategic alliance of space and nuclear powers almost tantamount to the full continent of Eurasia.

    Is Mike Johnson the dumbest speaker ever? (Age adjusted)

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    Yes that axis of can actually fight back and can’t be easily bullied.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    It's literally the majority of Eurasia. That's who Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize.

    Will it grow vastly again in another 22 years? Would probably require O'Neill cylinders to grow proportionately.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  142. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    My support for Trump is fading...that doesn't mean that I condone the Democrats for criminally using DOJ and their media for harassing Trump so that he would fail his 2016 winning agenda and his 2024 reelection .

    The support for him is fading because he is sleeping in bed with Israel. The USA will never be crime-free for their unconditional support of reckless Israel. A character - that is using concocted victimhood for their advantage, while perpetrating the same crimes on Palestinians - cannot be supported.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    My support for Trump is fading…that doesn’t mean that I condone the Democrats for criminally using DOJ and their media for harassing Trump so that he would fail his 2016 winning agenda and his 2024 reelection .

    I don’t have to pick between a dishonest real estate con artist and a dishonest media.

    Trump not only had the chance to become a populist alternative to both parties but he actually had the power to change the media. Instead he became the very type of swamp creature he railed against.

    I will call it like I see it and I will shrug if it pisses off people on both sides. I’m used to it.

    I will consider how I vote when we are in September. A lot could happen between now and then. Trump could be in prison and I also wouldn’t put it past the DNC to pull Biden at the last minute as part of a scheme. Let’s not forget they were actually caught cheating with Hillary.

    The support for him is fading because he is sleeping in bed with Israel.

    Americans want a ceasefire and Trump is on the side of sending Israel military aid. Why do they need military aid? They are fighting Arabs in tank tops. They haven’t even asked for aid. Our Rapture Ready MAGA Republicans are nucking futs and Trump is making a huge mistake in siding with them instead of going after independents.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Rapture Ready Nucking Futs from the commenter who gleefully posts images of Russian infantry getting incinerated by American supplied arms.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  143. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    My support for Trump is fading…that doesn’t mean that I condone the Democrats for criminally using DOJ and their media for harassing Trump so that he would fail his 2016 winning agenda and his 2024 reelection .

    I don't have to pick between a dishonest real estate con artist and a dishonest media.

    Trump not only had the chance to become a populist alternative to both parties but he actually had the power to change the media. Instead he became the very type of swamp creature he railed against.

    I will call it like I see it and I will shrug if it pisses off people on both sides. I'm used to it.

    I will consider how I vote when we are in September. A lot could happen between now and then. Trump could be in prison and I also wouldn't put it past the DNC to pull Biden at the last minute as part of a scheme. Let's not forget they were actually caught cheating with Hillary.

    The support for him is fading because he is sleeping in bed with Israel.

    Americans want a ceasefire and Trump is on the side of sending Israel military aid. Why do they need military aid? They are fighting Arabs in tank tops. They haven't even asked for aid. Our Rapture Ready MAGA Republicans are nucking futs and Trump is making a huge mistake in siding with them instead of going after independents.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Rapture Ready Nucking Futs from the commenter who gleefully posts images of Russian infantry getting incinerated by American supplied arms.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Rapture Ready Nucking Futs from the commenter who gleefully posts images of Russian infantry getting incinerated by American supplied arms.

    I support aiding Ukraine but not Israel. The Rapture Ready crowd is split on Ukraine and Johnson only signed off after being offered a huge check for Israel. Ukraine asked for aid and by the 1994 Budapest Memorandum we are obligated to support them. Israel does not need aid and in fact has a budget surplus thanks to cheap Russian oil that is courtesy of the dwarf king. Your dwarf hero could pull the reigns on Israel at any time but chooses to shrug and make money. Isn't that right?

    Are you offended by seeing Russians killed? That is what war looks like. Do you prefer a disconnected Victorian take on life where you can isolate yourself from reality?

    The Midget of Moscow could end the killing at any time by going back to his borders.

    Maybe take it up with him and not someone that posts videos that show the result of his hopelessly insecure ego.

    I guess reality is too offensive for you. Ironic how common that is on an open forum.

  144. @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    He explicitly says not aliens, celestial beings. Spoke to a cosmonaut who talked about the weird and wonderful phenomena he saw in space, that couldn't be explained.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Can you give any details?

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    My Russian isn't good and I was given a translation of what he was saying, but just things flying about, foo fighters type things, not space craft, as I understood. He was told not to talk about it by the Soviet authorities.

    I don't believe in UFOs, of course there are experimental aircraft, much more advanced that weather balloons crashing at Roswell, but I do believe there are unexplained phenomena that would include such things.

  145. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    I don't know what war you are observing but Russia is winning the one in Ukraine. 100 F-16's? Where? I have not seen any in action. The money is not very relevant and more western weapons only delay the inevitable defeat.

    Or do you think Kiev still has a shot to win? Everything else is noise of no importance in the long run. There are only two ways Kiev-Nato could stop the defeat: pro-Western liberals staging a coup in Moscow (fat chance) or going nuclear. Both are unlikely.

    The main unknown is how far will Russia go and what will they leave of the pre-war Ukraine - almost certainly neutral. And how many will die before it is formalized.

    If you think that a few weeks delay is worth printing $60 billion in "new money" you are welcome. It makes no difference with $34 trillion in the US debt. How can it be paid back? At some point ($40 trillion?) the foreign buyers of the US bonds will quietly disappear or you will have to hold a gun to them to keep on buying.

    It is not about what you or I think, this is simply math. That $34 trillion is real dent - people count on it as investments, their wealth, etc...if it loses value there will be a hell to pay. Don't be so blase about the exploding US debt - it could come back to bite you.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

  146. I like what they did to Private Vasquez @0:30:

    [MORE]

    It’s funny to see these AI trailers that intentionally have ’50s themes. Sort of wish they did contrasts. 1950s vs. 2050s versions if Hollywood keeps going in same direction.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    I get the sense that the original actress playing the Latina character around the push for amnesty was a Sephardic/Ashkenazi combo. But the wiki article doesn't specifically say, other than to mention Russia, Morocco, and Brazil.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenette_Goldstein

    In any case, she clearly had a tan or spray tan when compared to the character she played in T2. (John Connor's adoptive mother)


    Goldstein initially thought the film was about immigration and arrived at her audition for the part of a tough-as-nails space marine in a short skirt and high heels. As a result, Hudson's "illegal aliens" line was added to the script, as an in-joke.

     
    https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Jenette_Goldstein
  147. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    Yes that axis of can actually fight back and can’t be easily bullied.

    Replies: @songbird

    It’s literally the majority of Eurasia. That’s who Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize.

    Will it grow vastly again in another 22 years? Would probably require O’Neill cylinders to grow proportionately.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize all of Eurasia? Europe is rather solidly within the pro-Ukraine camp, and China is gleefully sitting on the sidelines watching Russia self immolate, giving Russia just enough to keep it on life support. Last I heard, Russia's GDP wasn't even as large as Italy's. China will maintain its overlord status, especially as Russia's wartime economy starts to dwindle. And all that China needs to do in order to maintain or improve its status is absolutely nothing. I'm guessing that China feels that Russia has a ways to go yet in order to be completely decimated.

    Replies: @songbird

  148. @songbird
    I like what they did to Private Vasquez @0:30:
    https://youtu.be/rCnPB4re8ek?si=GMHZzvva36oXYWS0

    It's funny to see these AI trailers that intentionally have '50s themes. Sort of wish they did contrasts. 1950s vs. 2050s versions if Hollywood keeps going in same direction.

    Replies: @songbird

    I get the sense that the original actress playing the Latina character around the push for amnesty was a Sephardic/Ashkenazi combo. But the wiki article doesn’t specifically say, other than to mention Russia, Morocco, and Brazil.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenette_Goldstein

    In any case, she clearly had a tan or spray tan when compared to the character she played in T2. (John Connor’s adoptive mother)

    Goldstein initially thought the film was about immigration and arrived at her audition for the part of a tough-as-nails space marine in a short skirt and high heels. As a result, Hudson’s “illegal aliens” line was added to the script, as an in-joke.

    https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Jenette_Goldstein

  149. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Rapture Ready Nucking Futs from the commenter who gleefully posts images of Russian infantry getting incinerated by American supplied arms.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Rapture Ready Nucking Futs from the commenter who gleefully posts images of Russian infantry getting incinerated by American supplied arms.

    I support aiding Ukraine but not Israel. The Rapture Ready crowd is split on Ukraine and Johnson only signed off after being offered a huge check for Israel. Ukraine asked for aid and by the 1994 Budapest Memorandum we are obligated to support them. Israel does not need aid and in fact has a budget surplus thanks to cheap Russian oil that is courtesy of the dwarf king. Your dwarf hero could pull the reigns on Israel at any time but chooses to shrug and make money. Isn’t that right?

    Are you offended by seeing Russians killed? That is what war looks like. Do you prefer a disconnected Victorian take on life where you can isolate yourself from reality?

    The Midget of Moscow could end the killing at any time by going back to his borders.

    Maybe take it up with him and not someone that posts videos that show the result of his hopelessly insecure ego.

    I guess reality is too offensive for you. Ironic how common that is on an open forum.

  150. @Beckow
    @Coconuts

    I was talking about power in the context of states or empires. There are other contexts, but for a country to have power is to dominate others - tell them what to do, how to live, who can be their leaders, etc...The West (lately mostly US) had that power for a few previous decades all around the world. E.g. Yeltsin was their approved guy or the US businessmen had effective global immunity.

    It has ended - the resistance to the Western power has won. It is too early to see how exactly will the world organize now.


    the West originated with the Western half of the Roman Empire, then switched to meaning Latin Christendom and later the ‘Enlightenment’...in England, France, Netherlands. The most recent manifestation would be the sphere of American political leadership and hegemony that emerged after 1945.
     
    True, but you skipped over the German part that was quite important. Some of the most "Western" memes are associated with Germany... :)

    If the West transforms into a post-Christian mixed population hodge-podge of everyone from around the world - it seems to want that - it will be a transformation too far, it will not be the West any more. Bolivia, Mumbai, Dubai or Singapore are not Western no matter how much they try. The key is that once enough of the ethnic continuity is gone the civilization changes - not necessarily for the better.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    There are other contexts, but for a country to have power is to dominate others…

    It seems that the US has been able to wield power and influence, because people found their economic and social model desirable and wanted their investment. When the US has tried to use coercion, domination in the obvious sense, it has been much less successful (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan).

    It has ended – the resistance to the Western power has won.

    This sort of sounds like they were fighting a partisan war against ‘Western power’. But the Chinese ‘resistance’ has been successful by opening up to trade with the West and entwinning its economy with the US, i.e. China vs. the US looks as much like business rivalry or possibly a turf war between gangsters as it does a guerilla war of the past.

    True, but you skipped over the German part that was quite important. Some of the most “Western” memes are associated with Germany…

    Like Marxism? The Germans did contribute some of the great Enlightenment thinkers, Kant, Leibniz, Hegel and later Marx. There was another side to Germany’s relationship with the Western (French) Enlightenment that was more hostile:

    The (German) Romantic mentality irresistibly impelled toward the remaining possibility: the definition of the West as the anti-model, the incarnation of evil, of all the values of Aufklarung that Romanticism rejected for its own reasons.

    Bolivia, Mumbai, Dubai or Singapore are not Western no matter how much they try.

    I think Bolivia has been semi-Western since Spanish colonisation. I would say those others can’t be Western because they are part of separate civilisations (Islamic, Hindu, East Asian) and so far have only sought to incorporate some Western elements.

    I agreed earlier that the West will be diminished by the growth of the influence of these civilisations within it and the shrinking of the Germanic, Latin etc. groups. It could break up the current West as European identity is redefined in opposition to Islamic and Sub-Saharan African, something that shouldn’t be such a big issue on the other side of the Atlantic. At the same time I still doubt that the concept of the West is reducible to the members of the three racial groups that have been and remain its substrate.

  151. @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    It's literally the majority of Eurasia. That's who Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize.

    Will it grow vastly again in another 22 years? Would probably require O'Neill cylinders to grow proportionately.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize all of Eurasia? Europe is rather solidly within the pro-Ukraine camp, and China is gleefully sitting on the sidelines watching Russia self immolate, giving Russia just enough to keep it on life support. Last I heard, Russia’s GDP wasn’t even as large as Italy’s. China will maintain its overlord status, especially as Russia’s wartime economy starts to dwindle. And all that China needs to do in order to maintain or improve its status is absolutely nothing. I’m guessing that China feels that Russia has a ways to go yet in order to be completely decimated.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize all of Eurasia?
     
    Exaggeration for affect.

    Technically, he is trying to antagonize most of the supercontinent of Eurasia, even if you include places like Japan and Indonesia.

    With frontage on the Baltic, the Black Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Pacific and Arctic Oceans. Essentially contiguous, if you count Caspian transport. Over 1.6 billion people, even if he rhetorically tries to reduce it to Xi and Putin.

    Countries with MIRVS and thermonuclear weapons and space programs. With a bigger economy than the US has and more manufacturing capacity.

    Why do it? Well, he seems to be a Neocon. I imagine it was because he wanted to ban TikTok or something.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  152. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    I don’t know what war you are observing but Russia is winning the one in Ukraine.

    I don't see how Russia is winning when Putin stated that the war was needed to stop NATO from expanding East which already happened. That was the clearly defined justification of the war made by Putin in his invasion speech. I will hold Putin to his word and not to the constantly moving goalposts of his fans.

    Lavrov the other day was talking about the need for a demilitarized zone between the two countries which shows that a march on Kiev is highly unlikely.

    That would put Ukraine closer to qualifying for NATO and Putin at best would get an Eastern chunk which by his own statements for the war means he cannot win. That would be closer to an armistice.

    I hold Putin by his own clearly outlined goals for the war and can source them if anyone would like. He described NATO as a geographic threat and NATO has already expanded East via Finland.

    If he can somehow talk Finland into leaving then I will reassess.

    100 F-16’s? Where? I have not seen any in action.

    Most of the F-16s have not arrived. Denmark and the Netherlands alone will be donating over 50. There are surplus F-16s in all NATO countries. We have over 1000 of them.

    If you think that a few weeks delay is worth printing $60 billion in “new money” you are welcome.

    You can call it funny money but it really doesn't make a difference since the 155mm shells that fall on Russians will be real.

    That is what Ukraine needs and it is on the way.

    That's in addition to the Czechs providing them with another 1.5 million:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-16/czech-plan-may-bring-1-5-million-shells-to-ukraine-premier-says

    The main unknown is how far will Russia go and what will they leave of the pre-war Ukraine – almost certainly neutral.

    They've already offered to allow the current lines which shows that Putin defenders who hope for a capitulation of Ukraine will most likely be disappointed. All evidence suggests that Putin wants to take the rest of the former DPR (it no longer exists as a Republic as Putin promised) and he is unlikely to try for Odessa. A Gallipoli style attack needed to happen by now. His generals most likely concluded it was too risky due to NATO satellites but then Putin has called for stupid plans that ignored his generals like the Kiev invasion. Unlikely but entirely possible since Putin is a lazy ego maniac and didn't even bother to learn the military lessons of WW1.

    How can it be paid back? At some point ($40 trillion?) the foreign buyers of the US bonds will quietly disappear or you will have to hold a gun to them to keep on buying.

    I'm not a fan of deficit spending but they can always cut the military budget if the bond rating drops. A 5% across the board cut for all Federal agencies would also do it.

    If this was my bill I would have given $1 to Israel in the form of a day old bagel and doubled the amount of artillery to Ukraine long with all of our ATACMs. 10 billion would be plenty.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …the war was needed to stop NATO from expanding East which already happened

    Nato expanding to Ukraine was stopped. A clear win for Russia for now. You are hiding in the consolation of Finland that was already de facto in Nato. Maybe you can talk Austria into joining…

    they offered to allow the current lines

    They didn’t, it is the West begging for a ceasefire by desperate “leaks”. You are one gullible guy. Russia has not since ‘Stambul in 2022 offered to freeze the lines. They explicitly said that they will not agree to it. So why do you lie?

    The demilitarized zone means no Nato and no weapons – Russia will make it as big as they can handle. Before it is defined your silly speculations and just feel-good hopes. You may be disappointed, I very much doubt that even Lviv would be in Nato. Get real, you are losing.

    Czechs providing them with another 1.5 million…Czech plan to…

    Maybe 10% of that will actually happen. Czechs “plan” but nothing ever happens. Stop hallucinating, we know our brown-nosing Czechs better than anyone…:) General Pavel was a solid commie, his dad was the main Soviet cheerleader, the head of the Czech commie military intelligence – leopards never change their spots, the Czech spot has something to do with pointless brown-nosing. They never deliver.

    they can always cut the military budget if the bond rating drops. A 5% across the board cut for all Federal agencies would also do it.

    It wouldn’t do it, the debt is growing by half trillion per quarter. You are not good with numbers – 1 trillion interest is the same as the military budget and 5% cut would only save $350 million (only discretionary can be cut). The numbers just aren’t there. You can default or have two-digit inflation for 5-10 years – both option would seriously undermine US ability to sell bonds. You are stuck. The only way US can keep issuing debt is with military force – and the only people left to do it to are the allies, Germany, Belgium, Japan…that’s the crazy irony of the situation. You screwed up.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Nato expanding to Ukraine was stopped. A clear win for Russia for now.

    Ukraine didn't qualify for NATO and wasn't applying so that isn't a win. Nothing has changed.

    You are hiding in the consolation of Finland that was already de facto in Nato.

    I'm not hiding anything.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You're either in or not. You don't get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.

    Putin described a threat of "missiles on the border" which is geographic. I will go by his word and not a forum poster fanboy.

    I hold politicians to their word and Putin clearly described a geographic threat.

    Here is a quote from him:
    “We have made it clear that Nato’s move to the east is unacceptable,” he said. “The United States is standing with missiles on our doorstep. Is it an excessive requirement not to install shock systems at our house? How would the Americans react if missiles were placed at the border with Canada or Mexico?”

    He not only described it as geographic threat but used an American/Canadian analogy.

    They didn’t, it is the West begging for a ceasefire by desperate “leaks”.

    You believe the West is begging for a ceasefire while loading up Ukraine with new weapons and talking about what they will get in November? Does that make sense to you?

    Russia has not since ‘Stambul in 2022 offered to freeze the lines. They explicitly said that they will not agree to it. So why do you lie?

    Russia hinted that they would accept an agreement whereby the current lines stand and that includes Crimea. Maybe try using Google before calling me a liar. You obviously try to live in a bubble and this is in fact old news. Russia in fact referred to them as "new territories" which actually contradicts their claim of them actually being Russian. Putin in fact called them conquests. Do I need to Google that for you as well? Are they conquests or historical Russian territory?

    The demilitarized zone means no Nato and no weapons – Russia will make it as big as they can handle.

    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can't win as defined by his own terms. Sane people will agree as Putin used plain language when describing his justification for the war.

    Maybe 10% of that will actually happen. Czechs “plan” but nothing ever happens. Stop hallucinating, we know our brown-nosing Czechs better than anyone

    You are suggesting I am hallucinating for citing a foreign source directly? Do you know what hallucinating means?

    They never deliver.

    Well you're wrong and again trying to live in a bubble.

    The Czechs have sent 38 tanks, 55 armored vehicles and 13 self-propelled howitzers. That is more than most countries.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/czech-ukraine-military-aid/32284650.html

    If you want to hope and wish that it won't happen then go ahead. It's wishful thinking and we will see if it works out for you.

    The Czechs never wanted to be under the rule of Moscow just like the rest of the USSR. Maybe someday the Russians will learn to be nicer to their neighbors. Probably not if history is a guide.

    It wouldn’t do it, the debt is growing by half trillion per quarter. You are not good with numbers – 1 trillion interest is the same as the military budget and 5% cut would only save $350 million (only discretionary can be cut).

    I understand numbers just fine. It's not purely a math problem and you don't understand how bond ratings work.

    You pass an across the board cuts to appease investors. Corporations do the same for stocks. The market is highly speculative and it's easy for a large government or corporation to lull investors back into a sense of security. It's really no different than appeasing an upset wife by doing extra chores or buying her something nice.

    The numbers just aren’t there. You can default or have two-digit inflation for 5-10 years – both option would seriously undermine US ability to sell bonds. You are stuck.

    The US bond rating is AA+. Russia is in the C range:
    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/rating

    All kinds of doomsday predictions were made over California's bonds and after some cuts they went back to an AA rating. Yes I have no doubt that the Feds will have to make cuts at some point. Kind of a duh. This war started with Putin fans declaring an end to the dollar and it finished higher than both the Ruble and the Euro. US defensive stocks are at a high thanks to the midget's war. An investor that quickly did the opposite of what Putin fans suggested would have had a good year in 2022.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Sean

  153. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize all of Eurasia? Europe is rather solidly within the pro-Ukraine camp, and China is gleefully sitting on the sidelines watching Russia self immolate, giving Russia just enough to keep it on life support. Last I heard, Russia's GDP wasn't even as large as Italy's. China will maintain its overlord status, especially as Russia's wartime economy starts to dwindle. And all that China needs to do in order to maintain or improve its status is absolutely nothing. I'm guessing that China feels that Russia has a ways to go yet in order to be completely decimated.

    Replies: @songbird

    Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize all of Eurasia?

    Exaggeration for affect.

    Technically, he is trying to antagonize most of the supercontinent of Eurasia, even if you include places like Japan and Indonesia.

    With frontage on the Baltic, the Black Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Pacific and Arctic Oceans. Essentially contiguous, if you count Caspian transport. Over 1.6 billion people, even if he rhetorically tries to reduce it to Xi and Putin.

    Countries with MIRVS and thermonuclear weapons and space programs. With a bigger economy than the US has and more manufacturing capacity.

    Why do it? Well, he seems to be a Neocon. I imagine it was because he wanted to ban TikTok or something.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Why do it?
     
    I thought that he explained his motivation quite well. After being privy to some intel reports, he felt that Ukraine was becoming dangerously short on ammo etc; and he didn't want to be known as the guy that stiffed Ukraine. Apparently, Trump was also under the influence of such information and gave Johnson the green light to go ahead. The rest, as they say, is already history.

    Replies: @songbird

  154. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Mike Johnson is trying to antagonize all of Eurasia?
     
    Exaggeration for affect.

    Technically, he is trying to antagonize most of the supercontinent of Eurasia, even if you include places like Japan and Indonesia.

    With frontage on the Baltic, the Black Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Pacific and Arctic Oceans. Essentially contiguous, if you count Caspian transport. Over 1.6 billion people, even if he rhetorically tries to reduce it to Xi and Putin.

    Countries with MIRVS and thermonuclear weapons and space programs. With a bigger economy than the US has and more manufacturing capacity.

    Why do it? Well, he seems to be a Neocon. I imagine it was because he wanted to ban TikTok or something.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Why do it?

    I thought that he explained his motivation quite well. After being privy to some intel reports, he felt that Ukraine was becoming dangerously short on ammo etc; and he didn’t want to be known as the guy that stiffed Ukraine. Apparently, Trump was also under the influence of such information and gave Johnson the green light to go ahead. The rest, as they say, is already history.

    • Troll: Derer
    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    felt that Ukraine was becoming dangerously short on ammo etc;
     
    If he were speaker of the Verkhovna Rada that might explain why he ignored existential problems in America like the border and runaway spending, to vote for more Ukrainian arms.

    But wouldn't suffice to explain why he used the term "axis of evil" to connect Russia, China, and Iran and voted to give away billions to Israel.

    It almost makes one nostalgic for the times that EEs were trying to foment a Chinese invasion of Russia.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. Hack

  155. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Why do it?
     
    I thought that he explained his motivation quite well. After being privy to some intel reports, he felt that Ukraine was becoming dangerously short on ammo etc; and he didn't want to be known as the guy that stiffed Ukraine. Apparently, Trump was also under the influence of such information and gave Johnson the green light to go ahead. The rest, as they say, is already history.

    Replies: @songbird

    felt that Ukraine was becoming dangerously short on ammo etc;

    If he were speaker of the Verkhovna Rada that might explain why he ignored existential problems in America like the border and runaway spending, to vote for more Ukrainian arms.

    But wouldn’t suffice to explain why he used the term “axis of evil” to connect Russia, China, and Iran and voted to give away billions to Israel.

    It almost makes one nostalgic for the times that EEs were trying to foment a Chinese invasion of Russia.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @songbird


    But wouldn’t suffice to explain why he used the term “axis of evil” to connect Russia, China, and Iran and voted to give away billions to Israel.
     
    His explanation on the Newsmax channel was that the US has a biblical admonition to stand with Israel.

    Rep. Chuck Edwards (R-NC), for his part, denounced Putin as murderous Marxist Socialist dictator.

    The reasonings were varied but they all revealed a high intellectual level among the member of the House.
    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    he ignored existential problems in America like the border and runaway spending,
     
    These are separate problems that need to be considered on their own merit, not tied to something as important as border control. I think that you'll find that he's very much pro-border control.

    wouldn’t suffice to explain why he used the term “axis of evil” to connect Russia, China, and Iran and voted to give away billions to Israel.
     
    I'm not sure why he decided to propose funding Israeli defense needs at this time. It's probably because the original senate bill already included such provisions, and he couldn't just ignore them. Connecting Russia, China and Iran together as the "axis of evil" isn't hard to explain, These countries seem to always show up on the opposite side of most any political stance or issue that the US promotes. They're all uber autocratic and among some of the least democratic countries in the world today.

    It almost makes one nostalgic for the times that EEs were trying to foment a Chinese invasion of Russia.
     
    There's no need to be nostalgic for those times. As I've already pointed out several times, China needs to do nothing foolish and will still end up as the big winner in the Russo-Ukrainian war, as Russia slowly but surely dissipates into a weak shell of its former self.
  156. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...the war was needed to stop NATO from expanding East which already happened
     
    Nato expanding to Ukraine was stopped. A clear win for Russia for now. You are hiding in the consolation of Finland that was already de facto in Nato. Maybe you can talk Austria into joining...

    they offered to allow the current lines
     
    They didn't, it is the West begging for a ceasefire by desperate "leaks". You are one gullible guy. Russia has not since 'Stambul in 2022 offered to freeze the lines. They explicitly said that they will not agree to it. So why do you lie?

    The demilitarized zone means no Nato and no weapons - Russia will make it as big as they can handle. Before it is defined your silly speculations and just feel-good hopes. You may be disappointed, I very much doubt that even Lviv would be in Nato. Get real, you are losing.

    Czechs providing them with another 1.5 million...Czech plan to...
     
    Maybe 10% of that will actually happen. Czechs "plan" but nothing ever happens. Stop hallucinating, we know our brown-nosing Czechs better than anyone...:) General Pavel was a solid commie, his dad was the main Soviet cheerleader, the head of the Czech commie military intelligence - leopards never change their spots, the Czech spot has something to do with pointless brown-nosing. They never deliver.

    they can always cut the military budget if the bond rating drops. A 5% across the board cut for all Federal agencies would also do it.
     
    It wouldn't do it, the debt is growing by half trillion per quarter. You are not good with numbers - 1 trillion interest is the same as the military budget and 5% cut would only save $350 million (only discretionary can be cut). The numbers just aren't there. You can default or have two-digit inflation for 5-10 years - both option would seriously undermine US ability to sell bonds. You are stuck. The only way US can keep issuing debt is with military force - and the only people left to do it to are the allies, Germany, Belgium, Japan...that's the crazy irony of the situation. You screwed up.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Nato expanding to Ukraine was stopped. A clear win for Russia for now.

    Ukraine didn’t qualify for NATO and wasn’t applying so that isn’t a win. Nothing has changed.

    You are hiding in the consolation of Finland that was already de facto in Nato.

    I’m not hiding anything.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You’re either in or not. You don’t get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.

    Putin described a threat of “missiles on the border” which is geographic. I will go by his word and not a forum poster fanboy.

    I hold politicians to their word and Putin clearly described a geographic threat.

    Here is a quote from him:
    “We have made it clear that Nato’s move to the east is unacceptable,” he said. “The United States is standing with missiles on our doorstep. Is it an excessive requirement not to install shock systems at our house? How would the Americans react if missiles were placed at the border with Canada or Mexico?”

    He not only described it as geographic threat but used an American/Canadian analogy.

    They didn’t, it is the West begging for a ceasefire by desperate “leaks”.

    You believe the West is begging for a ceasefire while loading up Ukraine with new weapons and talking about what they will get in November? Does that make sense to you?

    Russia has not since ‘Stambul in 2022 offered to freeze the lines. They explicitly said that they will not agree to it. So why do you lie?

    Russia hinted that they would accept an agreement whereby the current lines stand and that includes Crimea. Maybe try using Google before calling me a liar. You obviously try to live in a bubble and this is in fact old news. Russia in fact referred to them as “new territories” which actually contradicts their claim of them actually being Russian. Putin in fact called them conquests. Do I need to Google that for you as well? Are they conquests or historical Russian territory?

    The demilitarized zone means no Nato and no weapons – Russia will make it as big as they can handle.

    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can’t win as defined by his own terms. Sane people will agree as Putin used plain language when describing his justification for the war.

    Maybe 10% of that will actually happen. Czechs “plan” but nothing ever happens. Stop hallucinating, we know our brown-nosing Czechs better than anyone

    You are suggesting I am hallucinating for citing a foreign source directly? Do you know what hallucinating means?

    They never deliver.

    Well you’re wrong and again trying to live in a bubble.

    The Czechs have sent 38 tanks, 55 armored vehicles and 13 self-propelled howitzers. That is more than most countries.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/czech-ukraine-military-aid/32284650.html

    If you want to hope and wish that it won’t happen then go ahead. It’s wishful thinking and we will see if it works out for you.

    The Czechs never wanted to be under the rule of Moscow just like the rest of the USSR. Maybe someday the Russians will learn to be nicer to their neighbors. Probably not if history is a guide.

    [MORE]

    It wouldn’t do it, the debt is growing by half trillion per quarter. You are not good with numbers – 1 trillion interest is the same as the military budget and 5% cut would only save $350 million (only discretionary can be cut).

    I understand numbers just fine. It’s not purely a math problem and you don’t understand how bond ratings work.

    You pass an across the board cuts to appease investors. Corporations do the same for stocks. The market is highly speculative and it’s easy for a large government or corporation to lull investors back into a sense of security. It’s really no different than appeasing an upset wife by doing extra chores or buying her something nice.

    The numbers just aren’t there. You can default or have two-digit inflation for 5-10 years – both option would seriously undermine US ability to sell bonds. You are stuck.

    The US bond rating is AA+. Russia is in the C range:
    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/rating

    All kinds of doomsday predictions were made over California’s bonds and after some cuts they went back to an AA rating. Yes I have no doubt that the Feds will have to make cuts at some point. Kind of a duh. This war started with Putin fans declaring an end to the dollar and it finished higher than both the Ruble and the Euro. US defensive stocks are at a high thanks to the midget’s war. An investor that quickly did the opposite of what Putin fans suggested would have had a good year in 2022.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    Here's one more excellent comment that you offer, far better than what the stooge crowd here is able to mount at this blogsite. I notice that they often try to hurl insults at you and call you names, probably because they don't really have any good counter arguments. Don't pay these losers any heed, I consider you to be one of the better commentators here at this blogsite and I always read and look forward to your commentary (such attention to detail!). Keep it up!!!

    Replies: @Derer

    , @Sean
    @John Johnson


    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can’t win as defined by his own terms.
     
    Ukraine is not Putin’s War—it is Russia’s war.

    I understand numbers just fine
     

    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You’re either in or not. You don’t get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.
     
    Do you really think that if Ukraine had been a full member of NATO prior to Ukraine being invaded by Russia, that would mean the other countries of NATO would have been obliged to use their own armed forces to directly fight Russia to defend Ukraine? Even if article 5 contained such an obligation to fellow NATO member countries (and it does not), they would not have abided by it in Ukraine's case. If push came to shove there was no possible escalatory dominance for Ukraine against Russia; Ukrainian politicians did not seem to realise this or that their country was relying on rhetorical bluff and going to be on its own if it came down to actually fighting and dying.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @AP

  157. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    felt that Ukraine was becoming dangerously short on ammo etc;
     
    If he were speaker of the Verkhovna Rada that might explain why he ignored existential problems in America like the border and runaway spending, to vote for more Ukrainian arms.

    But wouldn't suffice to explain why he used the term "axis of evil" to connect Russia, China, and Iran and voted to give away billions to Israel.

    It almost makes one nostalgic for the times that EEs were trying to foment a Chinese invasion of Russia.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. Hack

    But wouldn’t suffice to explain why he used the term “axis of evil” to connect Russia, China, and Iran and voted to give away billions to Israel.

    His explanation on the Newsmax channel was that the US has a biblical admonition to stand with Israel.

    Rep. Chuck Edwards (R-NC), for his part, denounced Putin as murderous Marxist Socialist dictator.

    The reasonings were varied but they all revealed a high intellectual level among the member of the House.

    • Agree: songbird
    • LOL: Mikhail
  158. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Nato expanding to Ukraine was stopped. A clear win for Russia for now.

    Ukraine didn't qualify for NATO and wasn't applying so that isn't a win. Nothing has changed.

    You are hiding in the consolation of Finland that was already de facto in Nato.

    I'm not hiding anything.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You're either in or not. You don't get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.

    Putin described a threat of "missiles on the border" which is geographic. I will go by his word and not a forum poster fanboy.

    I hold politicians to their word and Putin clearly described a geographic threat.

    Here is a quote from him:
    “We have made it clear that Nato’s move to the east is unacceptable,” he said. “The United States is standing with missiles on our doorstep. Is it an excessive requirement not to install shock systems at our house? How would the Americans react if missiles were placed at the border with Canada or Mexico?”

    He not only described it as geographic threat but used an American/Canadian analogy.

    They didn’t, it is the West begging for a ceasefire by desperate “leaks”.

    You believe the West is begging for a ceasefire while loading up Ukraine with new weapons and talking about what they will get in November? Does that make sense to you?

    Russia has not since ‘Stambul in 2022 offered to freeze the lines. They explicitly said that they will not agree to it. So why do you lie?

    Russia hinted that they would accept an agreement whereby the current lines stand and that includes Crimea. Maybe try using Google before calling me a liar. You obviously try to live in a bubble and this is in fact old news. Russia in fact referred to them as "new territories" which actually contradicts their claim of them actually being Russian. Putin in fact called them conquests. Do I need to Google that for you as well? Are they conquests or historical Russian territory?

    The demilitarized zone means no Nato and no weapons – Russia will make it as big as they can handle.

    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can't win as defined by his own terms. Sane people will agree as Putin used plain language when describing his justification for the war.

    Maybe 10% of that will actually happen. Czechs “plan” but nothing ever happens. Stop hallucinating, we know our brown-nosing Czechs better than anyone

    You are suggesting I am hallucinating for citing a foreign source directly? Do you know what hallucinating means?

    They never deliver.

    Well you're wrong and again trying to live in a bubble.

    The Czechs have sent 38 tanks, 55 armored vehicles and 13 self-propelled howitzers. That is more than most countries.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/czech-ukraine-military-aid/32284650.html

    If you want to hope and wish that it won't happen then go ahead. It's wishful thinking and we will see if it works out for you.

    The Czechs never wanted to be under the rule of Moscow just like the rest of the USSR. Maybe someday the Russians will learn to be nicer to their neighbors. Probably not if history is a guide.

    It wouldn’t do it, the debt is growing by half trillion per quarter. You are not good with numbers – 1 trillion interest is the same as the military budget and 5% cut would only save $350 million (only discretionary can be cut).

    I understand numbers just fine. It's not purely a math problem and you don't understand how bond ratings work.

    You pass an across the board cuts to appease investors. Corporations do the same for stocks. The market is highly speculative and it's easy for a large government or corporation to lull investors back into a sense of security. It's really no different than appeasing an upset wife by doing extra chores or buying her something nice.

    The numbers just aren’t there. You can default or have two-digit inflation for 5-10 years – both option would seriously undermine US ability to sell bonds. You are stuck.

    The US bond rating is AA+. Russia is in the C range:
    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/rating

    All kinds of doomsday predictions were made over California's bonds and after some cuts they went back to an AA rating. Yes I have no doubt that the Feds will have to make cuts at some point. Kind of a duh. This war started with Putin fans declaring an end to the dollar and it finished higher than both the Ruble and the Euro. US defensive stocks are at a high thanks to the midget's war. An investor that quickly did the opposite of what Putin fans suggested would have had a good year in 2022.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Sean

    Here’s one more excellent comment that you offer, far better than what the stooge crowd here is able to mount at this blogsite. I notice that they often try to hurl insults at you and call you names, probably because they don’t really have any good counter arguments. Don’t pay these losers any heed, I consider you to be one of the better commentators here at this blogsite and I always read and look forward to your commentary (such attention to detail!). Keep it up!!!

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Orest...this looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship with JJ. Keep trolling.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  159. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    If the Russians are worried about this it may lead them to preemptive attacks on locations were the ATACMS rounds come into theater.
     
    Possibly. Judging by much higher than before success of Russian strikes the flow of HUMINT from Ukrainian territory has greatly increased lately.

    Replies: @LondonBob, @Gerard1234

    Possibly. Judging by much higher than before success of Russian strikes the flow of HUMINT from Ukrainian territory has greatly increased lately.

    Well it’s inevitable that mid-long range strikes is going to be attempted against us from Ukrop territory by the west. They have been doing this, with limited effect and non-existent tactical benefit, against liberated territory and Crimea and of course I don’t like it, but these are the current “rules” – inevitable attempts on our pre-2014 state can not have those same rules

    Hopefully we will intercept them but either way – any missile strike into Russia from their weapons, whatever “deniability”BS onto the Ukronazis they try to claim……..they should be responded to with missile strikes in Poland and Czechia. The big NATO intelligence centre they have in Poland- destroyed. Munitions factories in Poland-Czechia – the same. Anything in the logistics chain. Accumulation of enough Poles and Czechs at each site targeted to kill about hundred for each missile

    WW3? Well I think not if missile strikes launched from Russia are not from Kaliningrad, or use airspace above Kaliningrad/ from Baltic Sea. The same thing with Belarus. Strikes would have to be launched from Black Sea, 2014 Russia borders or Caspian Sea. It’s all about the Anglo-US scum and maybe France and Germany that is relevant here. They are self-protective and faggots and countries like Poland are totally expendable .

    Putin would have to do speech to the world and appeal to Polish and Czech citizens, and explain that for the NATO response to justified Russian strikes on Poland & Czechia……ANY attack of any scale on Kaliningrad , which has zero connection to these strikes on Poland & Czechia, would be responded to with Nuclear attack ( any possible fallout to go west) on Poland, or equivalent from non-nuclear , killing hundreds of thousands of Czechs and Polish plankton.

    Could say that most important thing is for Presidential Administration not to use some fool as official translator into English for Putin speech. Only Anglo-American opinion is vital – all the other NATO scum general opinion is derivative from the Anglo-American one. And general population of Anglo-US just will not listen to anybody who speaks in slow, heavily-accented by Russia into English translator.

    So any NATO-stan response , assuming they follow Putin’s order on Kaliningrad, would have to be via airspace of Banderastan into mainland Russia. Escalation wouldn’t be any personnel on Russian land in significant numbers. Erdogan is , at least, sane so nothing from NATO would happen on his part of the black Sea. Then it’s Romania and Bulgaria. Even as bought-off prostitutes that their elites are, I dont believe their population would enable them to do such action. Their current despicable actions require locals to be passive in support. Active support required for being a launchpad to attack us is a different thing. Scandinavian and Baltic earthworm retards are a different issue, however I don’t think they would do so either, at least not for next 2-3 years. So only via Banderastan.

    Recent actions in Middle East look decent for us in this type scenario- exchange of attacks by Israelis and Iran more of intelligence on Air Defence/PR operation then serious destructive military action – and all known by each side in advance. Similar to that Trump Iran/Syria vs their bases a few years before.
    Anglo-American scum are obsessed with PR, especially Americans . Almost like PR dictates military action. Appears very plausible we could semi-contrive a situation with the Anglo-American Nazis. Would guess preferably with the Pentagon not the pogrom-vengefaul (((CIA))). Call it operation Paramount-Dovzhenko. Fill sites with a lot of decommissioned/fake equipment and allow west to strike it.
    Western satellite photos showing ‘Russian military sites” hit – which are just large numbers of Decommisioned planes/tanks. Actually, f**k it – make them to scale papier mache planes/helicopters/tanks/APC, etc . Only thing real the fuel tanks – give western bydlo a big fire to watch. Then the following day satellite images showing “Putin’s defeat” to the western world. So like the Iran-Israel thing in reverse. We say no casualties, they say they struck our bases.

    Around all this, assuming there is real escalation that GS thinks is defendable…Ukrop air-defence now even busier at 360 degrees and 24 hours (which they are now, but even worse) . That anything launched from Poland/Czechia/NATO over 404 is co-ordinated with them does not matter – we learn from this co-ordination and more things fall in Ukraine. Czechia will see they are not a deathcult like 404, and positive developments could happen.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Gerard1234

    As more sudetenland is inhabited and taken back from Czechia by Germans, the Czech leading gang is more hawkish towards Russia - exposing advanced schizophrenia. Actually, some decades ago, Russians liberated that land for Czechs.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

  160. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Nato expanding to Ukraine was stopped. A clear win for Russia for now.

    Ukraine didn't qualify for NATO and wasn't applying so that isn't a win. Nothing has changed.

    You are hiding in the consolation of Finland that was already de facto in Nato.

    I'm not hiding anything.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You're either in or not. You don't get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.

    Putin described a threat of "missiles on the border" which is geographic. I will go by his word and not a forum poster fanboy.

    I hold politicians to their word and Putin clearly described a geographic threat.

    Here is a quote from him:
    “We have made it clear that Nato’s move to the east is unacceptable,” he said. “The United States is standing with missiles on our doorstep. Is it an excessive requirement not to install shock systems at our house? How would the Americans react if missiles were placed at the border with Canada or Mexico?”

    He not only described it as geographic threat but used an American/Canadian analogy.

    They didn’t, it is the West begging for a ceasefire by desperate “leaks”.

    You believe the West is begging for a ceasefire while loading up Ukraine with new weapons and talking about what they will get in November? Does that make sense to you?

    Russia has not since ‘Stambul in 2022 offered to freeze the lines. They explicitly said that they will not agree to it. So why do you lie?

    Russia hinted that they would accept an agreement whereby the current lines stand and that includes Crimea. Maybe try using Google before calling me a liar. You obviously try to live in a bubble and this is in fact old news. Russia in fact referred to them as "new territories" which actually contradicts their claim of them actually being Russian. Putin in fact called them conquests. Do I need to Google that for you as well? Are they conquests or historical Russian territory?

    The demilitarized zone means no Nato and no weapons – Russia will make it as big as they can handle.

    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can't win as defined by his own terms. Sane people will agree as Putin used plain language when describing his justification for the war.

    Maybe 10% of that will actually happen. Czechs “plan” but nothing ever happens. Stop hallucinating, we know our brown-nosing Czechs better than anyone

    You are suggesting I am hallucinating for citing a foreign source directly? Do you know what hallucinating means?

    They never deliver.

    Well you're wrong and again trying to live in a bubble.

    The Czechs have sent 38 tanks, 55 armored vehicles and 13 self-propelled howitzers. That is more than most countries.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/czech-ukraine-military-aid/32284650.html

    If you want to hope and wish that it won't happen then go ahead. It's wishful thinking and we will see if it works out for you.

    The Czechs never wanted to be under the rule of Moscow just like the rest of the USSR. Maybe someday the Russians will learn to be nicer to their neighbors. Probably not if history is a guide.

    It wouldn’t do it, the debt is growing by half trillion per quarter. You are not good with numbers – 1 trillion interest is the same as the military budget and 5% cut would only save $350 million (only discretionary can be cut).

    I understand numbers just fine. It's not purely a math problem and you don't understand how bond ratings work.

    You pass an across the board cuts to appease investors. Corporations do the same for stocks. The market is highly speculative and it's easy for a large government or corporation to lull investors back into a sense of security. It's really no different than appeasing an upset wife by doing extra chores or buying her something nice.

    The numbers just aren’t there. You can default or have two-digit inflation for 5-10 years – both option would seriously undermine US ability to sell bonds. You are stuck.

    The US bond rating is AA+. Russia is in the C range:
    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/rating

    All kinds of doomsday predictions were made over California's bonds and after some cuts they went back to an AA rating. Yes I have no doubt that the Feds will have to make cuts at some point. Kind of a duh. This war started with Putin fans declaring an end to the dollar and it finished higher than both the Ruble and the Euro. US defensive stocks are at a high thanks to the midget's war. An investor that quickly did the opposite of what Putin fans suggested would have had a good year in 2022.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Sean

    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can’t win as defined by his own terms.

    Ukraine is not Putin’s War—it is Russia’s war.

    I understand numbers just fine

    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You’re either in or not. You don’t get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.

    Do you really think that if Ukraine had been a full member of NATO prior to Ukraine being invaded by Russia, that would mean the other countries of NATO would have been obliged to use their own armed forces to directly fight Russia to defend Ukraine? Even if article 5 contained such an obligation to fellow NATO member countries (and it does not), they would not have abided by it in Ukraine’s case. If push came to shove there was no possible escalatory dominance for Ukraine against Russia; Ukrainian politicians did not seem to realise this or that their country was relying on rhetorical bluff and going to be on its own if it came down to actually fighting and dying.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Sean

    JoJo is hopeless, he ferociously denies the obvious scared to look like a loser. He reminds me of the Otto character from the Fish Called Wanda - lack of understanding, low IQ, fear of losing face. He mirrors people making policy in the West: know-nothings who are afraid to be perceived as losing to Russia. Or Vietnam, Iraq, China. It is a pathology.

    The fear drives them to hide in cherrypicked minutia, group-think and "hope". They never consider other side points. Finland is irrelevant to this - this is a war about Ukraine in Nato. It won't be so Russia is winning.

    The idea that if Russia attacked Finland before 2022 the West-Nato wouldn't fight is beyond ridiculous. Of course they would: Finland, Sweden are Western, Ukraine is not and never will be. All else is just hot air.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Sean


    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.
     
    Russia had an even larger superiority in manpower during the Afghan war. I'm old enough to remember how the Russian military high tailed it back to Russia in the end. Ukraine is a much larger country than Afghanistan, much better equipped and trained and will be a much larger nut to crack than Afghanistan ever was. The local native civilian population is much more willing to oust these aggressors too, thanks to Putler's ill thought-out policies of bombing civilian sites. This, of course includes the Russian speaking populations in eastern and southern Ukraine too. Whatever happened to the Russian speaking population in Kherson that vividly showed its displeasure with the Russian occupation?

    Replies: @Sher Singh, @Sean

    , @AP
    @Sean


    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians.
     
    And in 1920 there were far more Russians than Poles.

    And in 1939 there were 4 million Finns (not heavily armed or helped by the West, due to the diplomatic reasons) and 170 million Soviets.

    Soviets barely won that one, but would they have won if there 30 million Finns who were lavishly equipped by the West?

    The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells
     
    Which can be compensated for by superior accuracy and skill.

    Ukraine also enjoys a drone advantage.

    Overall picture is likely stalemate for awhile until one side or the other gives up. Russia more likely to do so, because Ukrainians are fighting for their own homes.

    Do you really think that if Ukraine had been a full member of NATO prior to Ukraine being invaded by Russia, that would mean the other countries of NATO would have been obliged to use their own armed forces to directly fight Russia to defend Ukraine?
     
    The risk of this happening would probably have prevented Russia from invading.

    Even if article 5 contained such an obligation to fellow NATO member countries (and it does not), they would not have abided by it in Ukraine’s case.
     
    You seem to be suggesting that if the Baltics get invaded, NATO won't send its troops in.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  161. @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    Can you give any details?

    Replies: @LondonBob

    My Russian isn’t good and I was given a translation of what he was saying, but just things flying about, foo fighters type things, not space craft, as I understood. He was told not to talk about it by the Soviet authorities.

    I don’t believe in UFOs, of course there are experimental aircraft, much more advanced that weather balloons crashing at Roswell, but I do believe there are unexplained phenomena that would include such things.

    • Thanks: QCIC
  162. Sher Singh says:

    Thoughts?

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Sher Singh

    Jews abhor horses & Jesus rode a donkey.
    Arabs used to be taken by Ethiopian slavers.

    How the fuck did people convert to this?
    It's the most AnAryan stuff possible.

    BRO IMAGINE A NOBILITY WHICH REJECTS HORSES AND WEAPONS

    LMFAO

    I seriously can't consider people without an equestrian tradition to be human.

    They're slaves


    https://johntsquires.com/2023/03/27/why-jesus-never-did-and-never-would-ride-a-horse-for-palm-sunday-lent-6/

    https://teachingforsotzambia.com/2019/06/26/why-did-israel-not-use-horses/

    Forbids harems, hunting & horses.

    🤮🤮🤮☠️


    There are guidelines for men: they may not ride an animal bareback—they are required to use a saddle.

    LOL

    https://halacha2go.com/php/h2go/home2.php?number=635

    Literal Sullah can't stand to pee tier.

    Replies: @songbird

  163. @Sean
    @John Johnson


    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can’t win as defined by his own terms.
     
    Ukraine is not Putin’s War—it is Russia’s war.

    I understand numbers just fine
     

    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You’re either in or not. You don’t get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.
     
    Do you really think that if Ukraine had been a full member of NATO prior to Ukraine being invaded by Russia, that would mean the other countries of NATO would have been obliged to use their own armed forces to directly fight Russia to defend Ukraine? Even if article 5 contained such an obligation to fellow NATO member countries (and it does not), they would not have abided by it in Ukraine's case. If push came to shove there was no possible escalatory dominance for Ukraine against Russia; Ukrainian politicians did not seem to realise this or that their country was relying on rhetorical bluff and going to be on its own if it came down to actually fighting and dying.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    JoJo is hopeless, he ferociously denies the obvious scared to look like a loser. He reminds me of the Otto character from the Fish Called Wanda – lack of understanding, low IQ, fear of losing face. He mirrors people making policy in the West: know-nothings who are afraid to be perceived as losing to Russia. Or Vietnam, Iraq, China. It is a pathology.

    The fear drives them to hide in cherrypicked minutia, group-think and “hope”. They never consider other side points. Finland is irrelevant to this – this is a war about Ukraine in Nato. It won’t be so Russia is winning.

    The idea that if Russia attacked Finland before 2022 the West-Nato wouldn’t fight is beyond ridiculous. Of course they would: Finland, Sweden are Western, Ukraine is not and never will be. All else is just hot air.

  164. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    felt that Ukraine was becoming dangerously short on ammo etc;
     
    If he were speaker of the Verkhovna Rada that might explain why he ignored existential problems in America like the border and runaway spending, to vote for more Ukrainian arms.

    But wouldn't suffice to explain why he used the term "axis of evil" to connect Russia, China, and Iran and voted to give away billions to Israel.

    It almost makes one nostalgic for the times that EEs were trying to foment a Chinese invasion of Russia.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. Hack

    he ignored existential problems in America like the border and runaway spending,

    These are separate problems that need to be considered on their own merit, not tied to something as important as border control. I think that you’ll find that he’s very much pro-border control.

    wouldn’t suffice to explain why he used the term “axis of evil” to connect Russia, China, and Iran and voted to give away billions to Israel.

    I’m not sure why he decided to propose funding Israeli defense needs at this time. It’s probably because the original senate bill already included such provisions, and he couldn’t just ignore them. Connecting Russia, China and Iran together as the “axis of evil” isn’t hard to explain, These countries seem to always show up on the opposite side of most any political stance or issue that the US promotes. They’re all uber autocratic and among some of the least democratic countries in the world today.

    It almost makes one nostalgic for the times that EEs were trying to foment a Chinese invasion of Russia.

    There’s no need to be nostalgic for those times. As I’ve already pointed out several times, China needs to do nothing foolish and will still end up as the big winner in the Russo-Ukrainian war, as Russia slowly but surely dissipates into a weak shell of its former self.

    • Troll: Derer
  165. @Sean
    @John Johnson


    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can’t win as defined by his own terms.
     
    Ukraine is not Putin’s War—it is Russia’s war.

    I understand numbers just fine
     

    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You’re either in or not. You don’t get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.
     
    Do you really think that if Ukraine had been a full member of NATO prior to Ukraine being invaded by Russia, that would mean the other countries of NATO would have been obliged to use their own armed forces to directly fight Russia to defend Ukraine? Even if article 5 contained such an obligation to fellow NATO member countries (and it does not), they would not have abided by it in Ukraine's case. If push came to shove there was no possible escalatory dominance for Ukraine against Russia; Ukrainian politicians did not seem to realise this or that their country was relying on rhetorical bluff and going to be on its own if it came down to actually fighting and dying.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.

    Russia had an even larger superiority in manpower during the Afghan war. I’m old enough to remember how the Russian military high tailed it back to Russia in the end. Ukraine is a much larger country than Afghanistan, much better equipped and trained and will be a much larger nut to crack than Afghanistan ever was. The local native civilian population is much more willing to oust these aggressors too, thanks to Putler’s ill thought-out policies of bombing civilian sites. This, of course includes the Russian speaking populations in eastern and southern Ukraine too. Whatever happened to the Russian speaking population in Kherson that vividly showed its displeasure with the Russian occupation?

    • LOL: QCIC, Mikhail
    • Troll: Derer
    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1782350416153329803

    Saw open legs & immediately knew whore LOL.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    , @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    A unilateral Afghanistan style withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine without any concessions in return would be impossible for Putin or whoever was in the Kremlin sell to the Russian population. It would be political suicide for Putin or his successor's circle too. I cannot see a parallel with Gorby pulling out of the perma-squabbling tribal territories known as Afghanistan because Ukraine is geopolitically crucial and a centralised modern state as demonstrated by the extreme cost of overcoming them. Due to failures of comprehension on both sides they are going toe to toe while doing a lot of irreversible damage of every kind, with no end to it in sight. Russia and Ukraine are countries rich in resourses which the rest of the world would be glad to pay hansomely for. Yes, Ukraine is Putin's nemesis, but he is also Ukraine's nemesis.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

  166. @Mr. Hack
    @Sean


    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.
     
    Russia had an even larger superiority in manpower during the Afghan war. I'm old enough to remember how the Russian military high tailed it back to Russia in the end. Ukraine is a much larger country than Afghanistan, much better equipped and trained and will be a much larger nut to crack than Afghanistan ever was. The local native civilian population is much more willing to oust these aggressors too, thanks to Putler's ill thought-out policies of bombing civilian sites. This, of course includes the Russian speaking populations in eastern and southern Ukraine too. Whatever happened to the Russian speaking population in Kherson that vividly showed its displeasure with the Russian occupation?

    Replies: @Sher Singh, @Sean

    Saw open legs & immediately knew whore LOL.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @LatW
    @Sher Singh

    She's not your woman and never will be. Why don't you worry about your own women. You should only be preoccupied with Sikh women.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Sher Singh

    Parochial views are silly even inside your village in Whateverthefuckistan. They are very stupid outside of it. This is not something you want to advertise.

    , @Beckow
    @Sher Singh

    I will take a wild guess that she will easily get a new Porsche. But the house and bridge are gone. I am also sure she has never been inside that church...

    The girl looks like a real winner...:) On 'to Moscow' they said. Brilliant plan.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Gerard1234
    @Sher Singh

    Even more amusingly, this (admittedly good looking) whore is from Kharkov. I had never heard of her before but it looks like she gained some attention for making a video of returning to Kharkov after leaving it at start of SMO.

    What's amusing? It appears upto this last month she is self-described "best friends" and travelling in America or Bali or wherever.... with Russia's most known and richest sex-actress!


    Something Romanova & Elfie is her name (I certainly don't watch this type of stuff, but she is frequently in newspaper, radio, news portal etc so very easy to have heard of her - though I certainly wouldn't class her in top 25% of Russian women )

    This khokhol-whore filming probable lesbian sex stuff with Russias most famous in this sector, obviously raises her profile massively and increases her earning potential from perverts.

    That is khokholism in a microcosm - be a whore in some form- physical, moral, business. Use this whoring to gain money, fame or power from Russians.

    Then further use this money gained from parasiting off Russians to travel or live in the West.

    Then maintain this western lifestyle by inventing khokhol credentials and slandering the Russia that made this possible. LOL

  167. @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1782350416153329803

    Saw open legs & immediately knew whore LOL.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    She’s not your woman and never will be. Why don’t you worry about your own women. You should only be preoccupied with Sikh women.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    Pretty girl. Does she have stereotypical Ukrainian features?

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Gerard1234
    @LatW

    A totally bizarre, meaningless, nothing post of a worthless shitbag.

    WTF is a retard like you intending to do when you post such garbage? Just time-wasting tactics?

    You would think a rich Sikh businessman, has taken a "ride" on her in Mumbai, in Singapore, in Thailand, in Dubai, in London in Miami already you dumb POS. Several times. Good chance Sikh MONEY from after this whore (and her khokhol friends) f*cked the Sikh businessman is what helped her get this Porsche, LOL.

    As for ukronazi coward limp-wristed males - poorest country in Europe, so not exactly "looking after their women" you dumbfuck..... therefore explains why so many women like her from 404.

    Atrociously low birth rate in 404 - not exactly "looking after their women" to the point they want to have and nurture children with these freaks you stupid dickhead


    As for the very small number of world famous ukrops - there appears to be clear pattern of not wanting to marry another Ukrop, as if ashamed of it:
    Klitschko junior-married an American actress. Klitschko senior, Mayor of Kiev, the German - too stupid to know where to put his d*ck.
    Andrei Shevchenko - inexplicably married to an American. Usik- he's the closest to a patriot - married to a Russian.

    Then onto the women - Svitolina the tedious tennis player - married a French African. The woman Alex Baldwin killed in a film..... married to an American.

  168. @Mr. Hack
    @Sean


    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.
     
    Russia had an even larger superiority in manpower during the Afghan war. I'm old enough to remember how the Russian military high tailed it back to Russia in the end. Ukraine is a much larger country than Afghanistan, much better equipped and trained and will be a much larger nut to crack than Afghanistan ever was. The local native civilian population is much more willing to oust these aggressors too, thanks to Putler's ill thought-out policies of bombing civilian sites. This, of course includes the Russian speaking populations in eastern and southern Ukraine too. Whatever happened to the Russian speaking population in Kherson that vividly showed its displeasure with the Russian occupation?

    Replies: @Sher Singh, @Sean

    A unilateral Afghanistan style withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine without any concessions in return would be impossible for Putin or whoever was in the Kremlin sell to the Russian population. It would be political suicide for Putin or his successor’s circle too. I cannot see a parallel with Gorby pulling out of the perma-squabbling tribal territories known as Afghanistan because Ukraine is geopolitically crucial and a centralised modern state as demonstrated by the extreme cost of overcoming them. Due to failures of comprehension on both sides they are going toe to toe while doing a lot of irreversible damage of every kind, with no end to it in sight. Russia and Ukraine are countries rich in resourses which the rest of the world would be glad to pay hansomely for. Yes, Ukraine is Putin’s nemesis, but he is also Ukraine’s nemesis.

    • Disagree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Sean


    Yes, Ukraine is Putin’s nemesis, but he is also Ukraine’s nemesis.
     
    More like a NATO proxy war with the Kiev regime as a pawn.
    , @AP
    @Sean


    A unilateral Afghanistan style withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine without any concessions in return would be impossible for Putin or whoever was in the Kremlin sell to the Russian population.
     
    High chance that the Russian population would do what they are told and accept whatever Putin does; they would breath a sigh of relief that their kids won't be sent to die in some Kherson field, particularly if as a result sanctions get lifted and defeat is accompanied by a resulting economic mini-boom which would make peoples' lives better. The war was bad, why would they choose to make a civil war if their lives are improving after the debacle?

    I don't know how this would play out within government circles, perhaps it would cause a coup by hardliners (or perhaps not - many of these have already been neutralized by Putin), but an end to the war even with total retreat from Ukraine would not lead to widespread population revolt.

    And there won't be another presidential election until 2030.

    If Putin gets some face-saving deal like getting recognition of Crimea or Donbas so much the better for his chances. But the Russian people won't try to overthrow him even if he returns to the 1991 border. They aren't desperate enough for such actions.


    Due to failures of comprehension on both sides they are going toe to toe while doing a lot of irreversible damage of every kind, with no end to it in sight
     
    The first part is very true, though I suspect it will end in 2025 when there is clarity about the long-term American position.

    With America out, it was basically a stalemate with steady and glacial Russian advances, a few villages or towns a month. With America back, it's just going to be stalemate with the chance of a breakthrough by Ukraine (but only a chance, I wouldn't bet on it). America being back means Ukraine probably will stop hitting Russia's oil infrastructure, until after the election. Biden didn't like when the Ukrainians did that. Ukraine may instead wreck Russia's power grid, which it had avoided doing previously in favor of hitting the money-making oil refineries. Russia can do the same, of course, though Ukraine may replenish its missile defenses and make it harder. In contrast, Russia will have a much harder time defending its vast territory from Ukrainian drone swarms.

    Or with longer range and much more ATACMs Ukraine may cause even more damage to Russia's Black Sea fleet. We'll see what is on the menu.

    Ukrainians will not end their country by surrendering. But Russians can end the war by going home. Eventually they will do it. Eventually they will get tired of trying to take more of Ukraine while getting their people killed and their country ruined, and Ukrainians will realize that the price of taking Crimea or Donbas (or maybe even the Crimean corridor) isn't worth it, as long as the Russians have nothing to do with the free parts of their country (which includes Russians don't decide about Ukrainian politics, army, language, and alliances).

    But sadly there will be 100,000s more dead and a lot of expensive destroyed infrastructure on both sides before both sides figure out where the border will be, and the Russians go home.

    At least Beckow finds it entertaining when Slavs slaughter Slavs, he'll be gleefully watching it for another year or so.

    Replies: @Beckow

  169. @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1782350416153329803

    Saw open legs & immediately knew whore LOL.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    Parochial views are silly even inside your village in Whateverthefuckistan. They are very stupid outside of it. This is not something you want to advertise.

  170. @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1782350416153329803

    Saw open legs & immediately knew whore LOL.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    I will take a wild guess that she will easily get a new Porsche. But the house and bridge are gone. I am also sure she has never been inside that church…

    The girl looks like a real winner…:) On ‘to Moscow’ they said. Brilliant plan.

    • LOL: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow

    At least her men are real fighters. That's worth more than all the Porsches and bridges.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I am also sure she has never been inside that church…
     
    I’ve never been inside any church (Catholic and Orthodox), mosque, synagogue, Buddhist or Shinto temple except as a tourist. Only saw Hindu temples from the outside (in the US and Singapore). Don’t see this as a blemish on my character.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    When Kazakhstan defeated the Ukraine in the Battle of the Nations Sunday Elena Rybakina won a fancy new Porsche. She cracked everybody up when she reported that she does not know how to drive.

  171. @Beckow
    @Sher Singh

    I will take a wild guess that she will easily get a new Porsche. But the house and bridge are gone. I am also sure she has never been inside that church...

    The girl looks like a real winner...:) On 'to Moscow' they said. Brilliant plan.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard

    At least her men are real fighters. That’s worth more than all the Porsches and bridges.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW

    You and I both know that she will not get her new Porsche from the fighters....she knows it too, she is not going to stick around.

    Replies: @LatW

  172. @Beckow
    @Sher Singh

    I will take a wild guess that she will easily get a new Porsche. But the house and bridge are gone. I am also sure she has never been inside that church...

    The girl looks like a real winner...:) On 'to Moscow' they said. Brilliant plan.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am also sure she has never been inside that church…

    I’ve never been inside any church (Catholic and Orthodox), mosque, synagogue, Buddhist or Shinto temple except as a tourist. Only saw Hindu temples from the outside (in the US and Singapore). Don’t see this as a blemish on my character.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...I’ve never been inside any church...except as a tourist.
     
    Weren't pilgrims the original tourists? That's how travel originated. So how is going in as a tourist different than for any other reason? Nobody sees into our minds...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  173. @LatW
    @Beckow

    At least her men are real fighters. That's worth more than all the Porsches and bridges.

    Replies: @Beckow

    You and I both know that she will not get her new Porsche from the fighters.…she knows it too, she is not going to stick around.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow

    Some will, some won't.

  174. Bukele wants to build a thorium plant.
    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/El-Salvador-on-Track-for-Peaceful-Nuclear-Energy-20240418-0018.html
    ____
    Has to be more than half, as it doesn’t account for AA, which in London must be pretty substantial.

    [MORE]

  175. @Beckow
    @LatW

    You and I both know that she will not get her new Porsche from the fighters....she knows it too, she is not going to stick around.

    Replies: @LatW

    Some will, some won’t.

  176. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I am also sure she has never been inside that church…
     
    I’ve never been inside any church (Catholic and Orthodox), mosque, synagogue, Buddhist or Shinto temple except as a tourist. Only saw Hindu temples from the outside (in the US and Singapore). Don’t see this as a blemish on my character.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …I’ve never been inside any church…except as a tourist.

    Weren’t pilgrims the original tourists? That’s how travel originated. So how is going in as a tourist different than for any other reason? Nobody sees into our minds…

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Nobody sees into our minds…
     
    God is supposed to see into our minds, if He/She exists (the top Shinto deity is female).

    Besides, I’ve been inside temples of so many different religions that even humans would have their doubts.

    Replies: @Beckow

  177. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...I’ve never been inside any church...except as a tourist.
     
    Weren't pilgrims the original tourists? That's how travel originated. So how is going in as a tourist different than for any other reason? Nobody sees into our minds...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Nobody sees into our minds…

    God is supposed to see into our minds, if He/She exists (the top Shinto deity is female).

    Besides, I’ve been inside temples of so many different religions that even humans would have their doubts.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    God is supposed to see into our mind...
     
    I didn't mean it that way. Simply that us, the humans, we don't see why a person is inside a church or a temple. We only know what they tell us. It could be that the Pope or a Patriarch are putting on a show, we don't know what's in their minds. (I would do it if I was the Pope, imagine the entertainment value..:)

    My view of the concept called 'God' is that if it exists it would be irrelevant to us - only a force providing background meaning to our Universe. But lacking free will and only following the physics rules of whatever it is that we live in. This reality of 'divinity' escapes most devotees - the fact that a "God" would lack the free will to change things making 'prayer' pointless. A placebo.

    But the architecture is nice. Good stone architecture is my weakness.

  178. @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    A unilateral Afghanistan style withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine without any concessions in return would be impossible for Putin or whoever was in the Kremlin sell to the Russian population. It would be political suicide for Putin or his successor's circle too. I cannot see a parallel with Gorby pulling out of the perma-squabbling tribal territories known as Afghanistan because Ukraine is geopolitically crucial and a centralised modern state as demonstrated by the extreme cost of overcoming them. Due to failures of comprehension on both sides they are going toe to toe while doing a lot of irreversible damage of every kind, with no end to it in sight. Russia and Ukraine are countries rich in resourses which the rest of the world would be glad to pay hansomely for. Yes, Ukraine is Putin's nemesis, but he is also Ukraine's nemesis.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    Yes, Ukraine is Putin’s nemesis, but he is also Ukraine’s nemesis.

    More like a NATO proxy war with the Kiev regime as a pawn.

  179. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Nobody sees into our minds…
     
    God is supposed to see into our minds, if He/She exists (the top Shinto deity is female).

    Besides, I’ve been inside temples of so many different religions that even humans would have their doubts.

    Replies: @Beckow

    God is supposed to see into our mind…

    I didn’t mean it that way. Simply that us, the humans, we don’t see why a person is inside a church or a temple. We only know what they tell us. It could be that the Pope or a Patriarch are putting on a show, we don’t know what’s in their minds. (I would do it if I was the Pope, imagine the entertainment value..:)

    My view of the concept called ‘God’ is that if it exists it would be irrelevant to us – only a force providing background meaning to our Universe. But lacking free will and only following the physics rules of whatever it is that we live in. This reality of ‘divinity’ escapes most devotees – the fact that a “God” would lack the free will to change things making ‘prayer’ pointless. A placebo.

    But the architecture is nice. Good stone architecture is my weakness.

  180. @Sean
    @John Johnson


    If Putin takes a chunk of Ukraine but Finland remains in NATO then he can’t win as defined by his own terms.
     
    Ukraine is not Putin’s War—it is Russia’s war.

    I understand numbers just fine
     

    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians. The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells.

    There is no such thing as de facto NATO. You’re either in or not. You don’t get the defensive benefits if you are not in. You can be invaded and you do not have the ability to call article 5 which is the most important part.
     
    Do you really think that if Ukraine had been a full member of NATO prior to Ukraine being invaded by Russia, that would mean the other countries of NATO would have been obliged to use their own armed forces to directly fight Russia to defend Ukraine? Even if article 5 contained such an obligation to fellow NATO member countries (and it does not), they would not have abided by it in Ukraine's case. If push came to shove there was no possible escalatory dominance for Ukraine against Russia; Ukrainian politicians did not seem to realise this or that their country was relying on rhetorical bluff and going to be on its own if it came down to actually fighting and dying.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians.

    And in 1920 there were far more Russians than Poles.

    And in 1939 there were 4 million Finns (not heavily armed or helped by the West, due to the diplomatic reasons) and 170 million Soviets.

    Soviets barely won that one, but would they have won if there 30 million Finns who were lavishly equipped by the West?

    The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells

    Which can be compensated for by superior accuracy and skill.

    Ukraine also enjoys a drone advantage.

    Overall picture is likely stalemate for awhile until one side or the other gives up. Russia more likely to do so, because Ukrainians are fighting for their own homes.

    Do you really think that if Ukraine had been a full member of NATO prior to Ukraine being invaded by Russia, that would mean the other countries of NATO would have been obliged to use their own armed forces to directly fight Russia to defend Ukraine?

    The risk of this happening would probably have prevented Russia from invading.

    Even if article 5 contained such an obligation to fellow NATO member countries (and it does not), they would not have abided by it in Ukraine’s case.

    You seem to be suggesting that if the Baltics get invaded, NATO won’t send its troops in.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    And in 1920 there were far more Russians than Poles.

    And in 1939 there were 4 million Finns (not heavily armed or helped by the West, due to the diplomatic reasons) and 170 million Soviets.

    Soviets barely won that one, but would they have won if there 30 million Finns who were lavishly equipped by the West?
     
    LMAO - the bimbo, faux-Ukrop reject has landed. Your schizo, faux-ukrop sociopath self has with this comment:

    1. Praised a war , the winter war against the Finns, most notable from a contemporary perspective for the Finns following the exact OPPOSITE negotiating position with Russia, compared to the Ukrop deathcult position. Because of this difference - the Finns have a prosperous, demographically fine country.........Banderastan has one condemned to destruction and failure. Extremely dumb to be trying to make the 2 wars similar.


    2. Praised a war, the Polish war against the Soviets.....most notable from a contemporary perspective as a war that if it succeeded as intended would have made EXTINCT the khokhol state and any future idea of a "Ukraine" you idiot

    So admiration, with a completely false understanding of what ACTUALLY happened, of a war that ridicules the current lemming ukronazi objectives........and a war that would have killed the ukrop project. ......From a fantasist retard who has never been to Ukraine. You couldn't make this sh*t up!

    As mentioned to your spamming scumbag self before - the Poles were fighting at a numerical advantage you dumb f**khead, caused by Soviet Union fighting about a million different wars at the time, mass civil disorder, an extreme civil war, no money, countries not recognising it ( so not willing to trade, with the Baltic export route only possible in 1920). Even the Baltic retards on here on not that dumb and sociopathic to misinform about their victory against the Soviets. So your numbers comparison is simply braindead.

    The Polish greedy, thief, coward-lowlifes initiated a war - even though the Provisional government, Lenin AND Denikin had all recognised the Polish state - in advance of many western states. Against near zero opposition in these chaotic circumstance, these parasites advanced all the way to Kiev. As soon as the Soviets started fighting them.......they incinerated Polish scum and forced them back a massive distance. Then , as now, US-Anglo-French weapons and money flooded into Poland. French aircraft, French Generals and western intelligence directing everything - and Soviets ( with most of the military not even motivated to reclaim Warsaw, and a practical man like Lenin, clearly willing to stop objective of a communist Poland) were driven back.....but with the end position being a massive net gain of territory reclaimed from the Poles, and Polish Nazi Empire ambitions destroyed. As for the ukrops in all of this.......LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

    The Winter War, the Finns stopped JUST as Soviets were about to wipe them away. Soviets had reversed the initial strong losses and were slaughtering the Finns, about to absolutely annihilate them .......at that point the Finns begged for peace, just like a sane people, one with some level of independence would. Then as now - the initial offer by Soviets ( receive twice as much land as give away, so Soviets have a safety zone from Nazi invasion, as proven correct) was a trillion times better then what the Finns got........a loss of 10% of the country. Then as now - the moral and practical objectives of the Soviets were proven to be correct. A bimbo retard as yourself is too thick to understand that the Finns stopped just as Soviets were about to make use of this big population of military age advantage.

    The Finns were not a completely fake nation like Ukraine, but a very insecure national identity at that point......so like 404 now they needed some blood suffered to give the national identity PR an increase. They succeeded, inflicted Soviet losses and negotiated to protect the country for a century.

    Here for 404, because of western media full-spectrum control and BS.......they could have faked a PR victory, even though kill ratio's in initial month ( and ever since) insanely high in Russia's favour.......and negotiated a settlement about a million times better then what they will finish, if anything of then remains to negotiate with.
    A sick tragicomedy.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @sudden death

  181. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    Here's one more excellent comment that you offer, far better than what the stooge crowd here is able to mount at this blogsite. I notice that they often try to hurl insults at you and call you names, probably because they don't really have any good counter arguments. Don't pay these losers any heed, I consider you to be one of the better commentators here at this blogsite and I always read and look forward to your commentary (such attention to detail!). Keep it up!!!

    Replies: @Derer

    Orest…this looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship with JJ. Keep trolling.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    Is paying somebody a compliment your idea of trolling somebody? You really are a screwed up little kremlin stooge. Are you a recent graduate of kremlin troll school? Just out of curiosity, how much are you being paid to monitor this website?

    Replies: @Derer

  182. @Gerard1234
    @AnonfromTN


    Possibly. Judging by much higher than before success of Russian strikes the flow of HUMINT from Ukrainian territory has greatly increased lately.
     
    Well it's inevitable that mid-long range strikes is going to be attempted against us from Ukrop territory by the west. They have been doing this, with limited effect and non-existent tactical benefit, against liberated territory and Crimea and of course I don't like it, but these are the current "rules" - inevitable attempts on our pre-2014 state can not have those same rules

    Hopefully we will intercept them but either way - any missile strike into Russia from their weapons, whatever "deniability"BS onto the Ukronazis they try to claim........they should be responded to with missile strikes in Poland and Czechia. The big NATO intelligence centre they have in Poland- destroyed. Munitions factories in Poland-Czechia - the same. Anything in the logistics chain. Accumulation of enough Poles and Czechs at each site targeted to kill about hundred for each missile

    WW3? Well I think not if missile strikes launched from Russia are not from Kaliningrad, or use airspace above Kaliningrad/ from Baltic Sea. The same thing with Belarus. Strikes would have to be launched from Black Sea, 2014 Russia borders or Caspian Sea. It's all about the Anglo-US scum and maybe France and Germany that is relevant here. They are self-protective and faggots and countries like Poland are totally expendable .

    Putin would have to do speech to the world and appeal to Polish and Czech citizens, and explain that for the NATO response to justified Russian strikes on Poland & Czechia......ANY attack of any scale on Kaliningrad , which has zero connection to these strikes on Poland & Czechia, would be responded to with Nuclear attack ( any possible fallout to go west) on Poland, or equivalent from non-nuclear , killing hundreds of thousands of Czechs and Polish plankton.

    Could say that most important thing is for Presidential Administration not to use some fool as official translator into English for Putin speech. Only Anglo-American opinion is vital - all the other NATO scum general opinion is derivative from the Anglo-American one. And general population of Anglo-US just will not listen to anybody who speaks in slow, heavily-accented by Russia into English translator.

    So any NATO-stan response , assuming they follow Putin's order on Kaliningrad, would have to be via airspace of Banderastan into mainland Russia. Escalation wouldn't be any personnel on Russian land in significant numbers. Erdogan is , at least, sane so nothing from NATO would happen on his part of the black Sea. Then it's Romania and Bulgaria. Even as bought-off prostitutes that their elites are, I dont believe their population would enable them to do such action. Their current despicable actions require locals to be passive in support. Active support required for being a launchpad to attack us is a different thing. Scandinavian and Baltic earthworm retards are a different issue, however I don't think they would do so either, at least not for next 2-3 years. So only via Banderastan.

    Recent actions in Middle East look decent for us in this type scenario- exchange of attacks by Israelis and Iran more of intelligence on Air Defence/PR operation then serious destructive military action - and all known by each side in advance. Similar to that Trump Iran/Syria vs their bases a few years before.
    Anglo-American scum are obsessed with PR, especially Americans . Almost like PR dictates military action. Appears very plausible we could semi-contrive a situation with the Anglo-American Nazis. Would guess preferably with the Pentagon not the pogrom-vengefaul (((CIA))). Call it operation Paramount-Dovzhenko. Fill sites with a lot of decommissioned/fake equipment and allow west to strike it.
    Western satellite photos showing 'Russian military sites" hit - which are just large numbers of Decommisioned planes/tanks. Actually, f**k it - make them to scale papier mache planes/helicopters/tanks/APC, etc . Only thing real the fuel tanks - give western bydlo a big fire to watch. Then the following day satellite images showing "Putin's defeat" to the western world. So like the Iran-Israel thing in reverse. We say no casualties, they say they struck our bases.

    Around all this, assuming there is real escalation that GS thinks is defendable...Ukrop air-defence now even busier at 360 degrees and 24 hours (which they are now, but even worse) . That anything launched from Poland/Czechia/NATO over 404 is co-ordinated with them does not matter - we learn from this co-ordination and more things fall in Ukraine. Czechia will see they are not a deathcult like 404, and positive developments could happen.

    Replies: @Derer

    As more sudetenland is inhabited and taken back from Czechia by Germans, the Czech leading gang is more hawkish towards Russia – exposing advanced schizophrenia. Actually, some decades ago, Russians liberated that land for Czechs.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Derer


    ...the Czech leading gang is more hawkish towards Russia – exposing advanced schizophrenia.
     
    The leading gang is the correct term. Czechs are hopeless, too submissive for the region. They have an incredible inferiority complex towards the West (worse than the Ukies), combined with a fake superiority pose towards the east (Poles and Ukies included). It creates a neck-twisting body chasm and leads to mental instability. (I knew a Czech in US who was telling everyone he was "Swiss" - when I asked him why he said he flew in from Switzerland, so why not?)

    Most of the time it looks like right now: the ruling gang is busy sticking its head into the filthier Western parts, promising the sky but not planning to do any of it, they simply want approval.

    Always remember that the Czechs voted 40% for the commies in 1946 in free elections, no Soviets were in sight. It was the global record for the commies. That was 4 years after 1 million Czechs assembled in Prague to yell "Heil Hitler!" after Heydrich assassination. Same people. (But there are many good ones...)

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Derer


    Actually, some decades ago, Russians liberated that land for Czechs.
     
    No good deed ever goes unpunished.
  183. @Beckow
    @Sher Singh

    I will take a wild guess that she will easily get a new Porsche. But the house and bridge are gone. I am also sure she has never been inside that church...

    The girl looks like a real winner...:) On 'to Moscow' they said. Brilliant plan.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard

    When Kazakhstan defeated the Ukraine in the Battle of the Nations Sunday Elena Rybakina won a fancy new Porsche. She cracked everybody up when she reported that she does not know how to drive.

  184. @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    A unilateral Afghanistan style withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine without any concessions in return would be impossible for Putin or whoever was in the Kremlin sell to the Russian population. It would be political suicide for Putin or his successor's circle too. I cannot see a parallel with Gorby pulling out of the perma-squabbling tribal territories known as Afghanistan because Ukraine is geopolitically crucial and a centralised modern state as demonstrated by the extreme cost of overcoming them. Due to failures of comprehension on both sides they are going toe to toe while doing a lot of irreversible damage of every kind, with no end to it in sight. Russia and Ukraine are countries rich in resourses which the rest of the world would be glad to pay hansomely for. Yes, Ukraine is Putin's nemesis, but he is also Ukraine's nemesis.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    A unilateral Afghanistan style withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine without any concessions in return would be impossible for Putin or whoever was in the Kremlin sell to the Russian population.

    High chance that the Russian population would do what they are told and accept whatever Putin does; they would breath a sigh of relief that their kids won’t be sent to die in some Kherson field, particularly if as a result sanctions get lifted and defeat is accompanied by a resulting economic mini-boom which would make peoples’ lives better. The war was bad, why would they choose to make a civil war if their lives are improving after the debacle?

    I don’t know how this would play out within government circles, perhaps it would cause a coup by hardliners (or perhaps not – many of these have already been neutralized by Putin), but an end to the war even with total retreat from Ukraine would not lead to widespread population revolt.

    And there won’t be another presidential election until 2030.

    If Putin gets some face-saving deal like getting recognition of Crimea or Donbas so much the better for his chances. But the Russian people won’t try to overthrow him even if he returns to the 1991 border. They aren’t desperate enough for such actions.

    Due to failures of comprehension on both sides they are going toe to toe while doing a lot of irreversible damage of every kind, with no end to it in sight

    The first part is very true, though I suspect it will end in 2025 when there is clarity about the long-term American position.

    With America out, it was basically a stalemate with steady and glacial Russian advances, a few villages or towns a month. With America back, it’s just going to be stalemate with the chance of a breakthrough by Ukraine (but only a chance, I wouldn’t bet on it). America being back means Ukraine probably will stop hitting Russia’s oil infrastructure, until after the election. Biden didn’t like when the Ukrainians did that. Ukraine may instead wreck Russia’s power grid, which it had avoided doing previously in favor of hitting the money-making oil refineries. Russia can do the same, of course, though Ukraine may replenish its missile defenses and make it harder. In contrast, Russia will have a much harder time defending its vast territory from Ukrainian drone swarms.

    Or with longer range and much more ATACMs Ukraine may cause even more damage to Russia’s Black Sea fleet. We’ll see what is on the menu.

    Ukrainians will not end their country by surrendering. But Russians can end the war by going home. Eventually they will do it. Eventually they will get tired of trying to take more of Ukraine while getting their people killed and their country ruined, and Ukrainians will realize that the price of taking Crimea or Donbas (or maybe even the Crimean corridor) isn’t worth it, as long as the Russians have nothing to do with the free parts of their country (which includes Russians don’t decide about Ukrainian politics, army, language, and alliances).

    But sadly there will be 100,000s more dead and a lot of expensive destroyed infrastructure on both sides before both sides figure out where the border will be, and the Russians go home.

    At least Beckow finds it entertaining when Slavs slaughter Slavs, he’ll be gleefully watching it for another year or so.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Beckow finds it entertaining when Slavs slaughter Slavs, he’ll be gleefully watching it for another year or so.
     
    You are reading me wrong. It is a tragedy, but it is happening so one might as well get something out of it. Like Titanic was a tragedy, but a good lesson in what not to do. You need to see this as an evolutionary story - who has it and who doesn't.

    You and I disagree on who screwed up and made the catastrophic circus happen. But at the end it is not we who will assess the impact: it is the reality and who wins and who loses. On that we also disagree, although I have noticed you have gone from "offensive to take back Crimea!" (I am exaggerating!) to predicting a stalemate.

    It is unlikely it will end in a stalemate - too much is invested by both sides and all the red lines have been crossed. Nobody is going to take their marbles and go home. This will be a wipe-out victory. Russia started out stronger, but messed around a bit before they got momentum - it is theirs to lose. The Ukies showed no speed and then they quit - how are they going to turn that around?

    It is f..ing entertaining, this only happens once or twice per century. And when will we ever get a hirsute short Eastern European Jew in sweatpants going from playing a piano with his d..k (in public!) to threatening to destroy the world. This is cultural gold, people will talk about it for decades. (Not the Ukies, they will be mostly gone, but we will have quite some memories. I hope it doesn't end next year...the lesson has to be thorough.)

    Replies: @AP

  185. @Derer
    @Gerard1234

    As more sudetenland is inhabited and taken back from Czechia by Germans, the Czech leading gang is more hawkish towards Russia - exposing advanced schizophrenia. Actually, some decades ago, Russians liberated that land for Czechs.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    …the Czech leading gang is more hawkish towards Russia – exposing advanced schizophrenia.

    The leading gang is the correct term. Czechs are hopeless, too submissive for the region. They have an incredible inferiority complex towards the West (worse than the Ukies), combined with a fake superiority pose towards the east (Poles and Ukies included). It creates a neck-twisting body chasm and leads to mental instability. (I knew a Czech in US who was telling everyone he was “Swiss” – when I asked him why he said he flew in from Switzerland, so why not?)

    Most of the time it looks like right now: the ruling gang is busy sticking its head into the filthier Western parts, promising the sky but not planning to do any of it, they simply want approval.

    Always remember that the Czechs voted 40% for the commies in 1946 in free elections, no Soviets were in sight. It was the global record for the commies. That was 4 years after 1 million Czechs assembled in Prague to yell “Heil Hitler!” after Heydrich assassination. Same people. (But there are many good ones…)

  186. Re: https://www.eurasiareview.com/23042024-alexander-motyl-is-dead-wrong-about-jd-vance-and-russia-ukraine-oped/

    Someone said That 5-point proposal at the end sounds reasonable. If only it were implementable.

    Excerpt –

    At this juncture, Russia might (stress might) consider the following settlement:

    – no NATO membership for Ukraine with it having a limited military under strictly enforced oversight

    – Russia is recognized for having all of the former Ukrainian SSR territory it currently holds

    – the present Kiev regime controlled Ukrainian territory is recognized as Ukraine’s

    – all of the sanctions implemented after February 24, 2022 against Russia (like the hypocritically bigoted ones concerning the Olympics and other sporting events) are promptly stopped

    – an end to the suppression of Russian culture (language, religion, monuments, et al) in Kiev regime-controlled Ukraine.

    The author made the same proposal a year ago. The differences now are that Russia has more territory in an economically/militarily/politically stronger position, with a weaker NATO proxy Kiev regime.

    That article is presently the number one search result under Google News for “Alexander Motyl”. Under that reference, his articles at The Hill aren’t listed.

    https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=5d0811d5ae0715ef&sca_upv=1&q=%22Alexander+Motyl%22&tbm=nws&source=lnms&prmd=invsmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj29sLC9NiFAxWXEFkFHc7HB3QQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1024&bih=643&dpr=1

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikhail

    It amounts to freezing the non-existing stalemate - and it is not enforceable. The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.

    The real lesson of Finland for Russia is that they can't trust the West - Finns got off lightly after WW2 - they were murderous Nazi allies responsible for hundreds of thousands dead in St. Petersburg. Russia let them off when they committed to neutrality. Helsinki betrayed that last year.

    How can Russia take any promise of "no Nato in Ukraine?" seriously after Finland? No matter how formal and how much the Ukies and Nato swear that they mean it. Russia will ignore promises and treaties and simply control the ground. It makes the 5-point plan irrelevant.

    The only way to avoid it is to defeat Russia. The Ukies can't do it, and can you see hundreds of thousands Westies lining up to die for it? I don't think so. That makes the final outcome rather obvious.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

  187. Not the reaction I would have expected in a cat.

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  188. @AP
    @Sean


    A unilateral Afghanistan style withdrawal of Russia from Ukraine without any concessions in return would be impossible for Putin or whoever was in the Kremlin sell to the Russian population.
     
    High chance that the Russian population would do what they are told and accept whatever Putin does; they would breath a sigh of relief that their kids won't be sent to die in some Kherson field, particularly if as a result sanctions get lifted and defeat is accompanied by a resulting economic mini-boom which would make peoples' lives better. The war was bad, why would they choose to make a civil war if their lives are improving after the debacle?

    I don't know how this would play out within government circles, perhaps it would cause a coup by hardliners (or perhaps not - many of these have already been neutralized by Putin), but an end to the war even with total retreat from Ukraine would not lead to widespread population revolt.

    And there won't be another presidential election until 2030.

    If Putin gets some face-saving deal like getting recognition of Crimea or Donbas so much the better for his chances. But the Russian people won't try to overthrow him even if he returns to the 1991 border. They aren't desperate enough for such actions.


    Due to failures of comprehension on both sides they are going toe to toe while doing a lot of irreversible damage of every kind, with no end to it in sight
     
    The first part is very true, though I suspect it will end in 2025 when there is clarity about the long-term American position.

    With America out, it was basically a stalemate with steady and glacial Russian advances, a few villages or towns a month. With America back, it's just going to be stalemate with the chance of a breakthrough by Ukraine (but only a chance, I wouldn't bet on it). America being back means Ukraine probably will stop hitting Russia's oil infrastructure, until after the election. Biden didn't like when the Ukrainians did that. Ukraine may instead wreck Russia's power grid, which it had avoided doing previously in favor of hitting the money-making oil refineries. Russia can do the same, of course, though Ukraine may replenish its missile defenses and make it harder. In contrast, Russia will have a much harder time defending its vast territory from Ukrainian drone swarms.

    Or with longer range and much more ATACMs Ukraine may cause even more damage to Russia's Black Sea fleet. We'll see what is on the menu.

    Ukrainians will not end their country by surrendering. But Russians can end the war by going home. Eventually they will do it. Eventually they will get tired of trying to take more of Ukraine while getting their people killed and their country ruined, and Ukrainians will realize that the price of taking Crimea or Donbas (or maybe even the Crimean corridor) isn't worth it, as long as the Russians have nothing to do with the free parts of their country (which includes Russians don't decide about Ukrainian politics, army, language, and alliances).

    But sadly there will be 100,000s more dead and a lot of expensive destroyed infrastructure on both sides before both sides figure out where the border will be, and the Russians go home.

    At least Beckow finds it entertaining when Slavs slaughter Slavs, he'll be gleefully watching it for another year or so.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Beckow finds it entertaining when Slavs slaughter Slavs, he’ll be gleefully watching it for another year or so.

    You are reading me wrong. It is a tragedy, but it is happening so one might as well get something out of it. Like Titanic was a tragedy, but a good lesson in what not to do. You need to see this as an evolutionary story – who has it and who doesn’t.

    You and I disagree on who screwed up and made the catastrophic circus happen. But at the end it is not we who will assess the impact: it is the reality and who wins and who loses. On that we also disagree, although I have noticed you have gone from “offensive to take back Crimea!” (I am exaggerating!) to predicting a stalemate.

    It is unlikely it will end in a stalemate – too much is invested by both sides and all the red lines have been crossed. Nobody is going to take their marbles and go home. This will be a wipe-out victory. Russia started out stronger, but messed around a bit before they got momentum – it is theirs to lose. The Ukies showed no speed and then they quit – how are they going to turn that around?

    It is f..ing entertaining, this only happens once or twice per century. And when will we ever get a hirsute short Eastern European Jew in sweatpants going from playing a piano with his d..k (in public!) to threatening to destroy the world. This is cultural gold, people will talk about it for decades. (Not the Ukies, they will be mostly gone, but we will have quite some memories. I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough.)

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    You are reading me wrong. It is a tragedy, but it is happening so one might as well get something out of it.
     
    In your case, entertainment.

    You are a very sick person.


    I have noticed you have gone from “offensive to take back Crimea!” (I am exaggerating!) to predicting a stalemate.
     
    I have always said the most likely result will be a stalemate, with a smaller than 50% chance that the Ukrainians break through in the South.

    The chance of a Ukrainian breakthrough would be close to zero if the Americans walked away. Now it is back.


    It is unlikely it will end in a stalemate
     
    Do you think that the Russians will be able to capture Kharkiv (population 1.5 million, huge tunnels well-fortified after 2 years of war) or Zaporizhia (population 1 million, also well-fortified) or cross the bridgeless Dnipro river to retake Kherson, capture Mikolaiv (well-fortified, population 500,000) en route to taking Odessa (population 1 million)? Remember how long and with how many deaths it took to take Avdiivka (population 30,000).

    Conversely, there is no way that Ukraine could storm and take large cities like Donetsk or Horlivka.

    So the ultimate lines will be somewhere between these cities. Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas still controlled by Ukraine, or retakes eastern Kharkiv province, or moves north from the Crimean corridor to the very gates of Zaporizhia. Maybe Ukraine moves south and retakes the Crimean corridor. From there, Crimea itself (at least the northern areas) becomes a possibility. Probably another 100,00o troops on each side would die in these attempts. But nobody is going to sacrifice 400,000+ killed or so for a "total victory" in the East and South by capturing the large well-fortified and hostile cities. It is not really the 1940s any more.

    Beyond the battlefield, both sides will probably inflict a lot of damage on each country's civilian infrastructure. This can be worse for Russia, which has much colder and deadlier winters than Ukraine does, with less opportunity to resettle civilians (Ukrainians can move West, where will millions in the Volga region go when they lose heating and electricity and it is -30 outside. Novosibirsk cnn't handle that many).

    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.


    This is cultural gold, people will talk about it for decades. (Not the Ukies, they will be mostly gone
     
    If the Ukrainians are "mostly gone" they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

    But fortunately it won't come to that, because there will be stalemate of some kind.


    I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough
     
    I know you don't. It's the kind of person you are.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Cesar1191

  189. @Mikhail
    Re: https://www.eurasiareview.com/23042024-alexander-motyl-is-dead-wrong-about-jd-vance-and-russia-ukraine-oped/

    Someone said That 5-point proposal at the end sounds reasonable. If only it were implementable.

    Excerpt -


    At this juncture, Russia might (stress might) consider the following settlement:

    – no NATO membership for Ukraine with it having a limited military under strictly enforced oversight

    – Russia is recognized for having all of the former Ukrainian SSR territory it currently holds

    – the present Kiev regime controlled Ukrainian territory is recognized as Ukraine’s

    – all of the sanctions implemented after February 24, 2022 against Russia (like the hypocritically bigoted ones concerning the Olympics and other sporting events) are promptly stopped

    – an end to the suppression of Russian culture (language, religion, monuments, et al) in Kiev regime-controlled Ukraine.
     

    The author made the same proposal a year ago. The differences now are that Russia has more territory in an economically/militarily/politically stronger position, with a weaker NATO proxy Kiev regime.

    That article is presently the number one search result under Google News for "Alexander Motyl". Under that reference, his articles at The Hill aren't listed.

    https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=5d0811d5ae0715ef&sca_upv=1&q=%22Alexander+Motyl%22&tbm=nws&source=lnms&prmd=invsmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj29sLC9NiFAxWXEFkFHc7HB3QQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1024&bih=643&dpr=1

    Replies: @Beckow

    It amounts to freezing the non-existing stalemate – and it is not enforceable. The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.

    The real lesson of Finland for Russia is that they can’t trust the West – Finns got off lightly after WW2 – they were murderous Nazi allies responsible for hundreds of thousands dead in St. Petersburg. Russia let them off when they committed to neutrality. Helsinki betrayed that last year.

    How can Russia take any promise of “no Nato in Ukraine?” seriously after Finland? No matter how formal and how much the Ukies and Nato swear that they mean it. Russia will ignore promises and treaties and simply control the ground. It makes the 5-point plan irrelevant.

    The only way to avoid it is to defeat Russia. The Ukies can’t do it, and can you see hundreds of thousands Westies lining up to die for it? I don’t think so. That makes the final outcome rather obvious.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    I just received this reply in line with you:


    That train has left a long time ago. Considering what people like Medvedev and some other Russian politicians are saying, they will never trust the West again, and agreements would be useless, they say, since they will not be respected by the West. Sanctions have hurt the West more than Russia, which is in the process of forming alternatives to past relationships with the West. Sad, but the West's delusions of grandeur and faith in their own propaganda about "Russian weakness"etc., have created this situation.

     

    Convoluted Kiev regime and its main backers won't accept it at this time. Your point leads to the trust but verify matter leading to the strictly enforced note which could involve a Russian military presence in places like Odessa and Kharkov. It'll need to be clearly worded in detail with UN approval to provide enough security for Russia to go along with.

    We could go another year or two with the Kiev regime weakened even more and Russia stronger with added territory.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.
     
    Who has remained loyal to the ideas that formed the basis for the Budapest Memorandum? Who's abandoned the principles of respecting Ukraine's sovereignty and the prohibition of crossing its borders and fomenting war, the West or Russia? These principles have 0nly been discarded by one signatory that no longer finds them to be useful.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    How can Russia take any promise of “no Nato in Ukraine?” seriously after Finland?

    How can Finland take Russian promises of "we don't want war, it's just a training exercise" seriously after invading Ukraine?

    This is like attacking your neighbor and then getting upset when the other one puts up cameras and fences.

    How dare you prepare for the exact scenario that I said wouldn't happen before I did it.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

  190. @Beckow
    @Mikhail

    It amounts to freezing the non-existing stalemate - and it is not enforceable. The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.

    The real lesson of Finland for Russia is that they can't trust the West - Finns got off lightly after WW2 - they were murderous Nazi allies responsible for hundreds of thousands dead in St. Petersburg. Russia let them off when they committed to neutrality. Helsinki betrayed that last year.

    How can Russia take any promise of "no Nato in Ukraine?" seriously after Finland? No matter how formal and how much the Ukies and Nato swear that they mean it. Russia will ignore promises and treaties and simply control the ground. It makes the 5-point plan irrelevant.

    The only way to avoid it is to defeat Russia. The Ukies can't do it, and can you see hundreds of thousands Westies lining up to die for it? I don't think so. That makes the final outcome rather obvious.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    I just received this reply in line with you:

    That train has left a long time ago. Considering what people like Medvedev and some other Russian politicians are saying, they will never trust the West again, and agreements would be useless, they say, since they will not be respected by the West. Sanctions have hurt the West more than Russia, which is in the process of forming alternatives to past relationships with the West. Sad, but the West’s delusions of grandeur and faith in their own propaganda about “Russian weakness”etc., have created this situation.

    Convoluted Kiev regime and its main backers won’t accept it at this time. Your point leads to the trust but verify matter leading to the strictly enforced note which could involve a Russian military presence in places like Odessa and Kharkov. It’ll need to be clearly worded in detail with UN approval to provide enough security for Russia to go along with.

    We could go another year or two with the Kiev regime weakened even more and Russia stronger with added territory.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    ...West’s delusions of grandeur and faith in their own propaganda about “Russian weakness”etc., have created this situation.
     
    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda. They are possibly not very smart or live busy lives with all that cubicle work calling each other to sell stuff. No time to think. The physical stuff again beat self-aggrandizement.

    clearly worded in detail with UN approval...
     
    We are beyond words, they are now to only describe what is happening. UN is irrelevant - you can't have Washington call Palau or 100 other minor dependencies and take that seriously. Security Council will stay but be mostly blocked. The rest of UN is effectively dead: pricey NY party circuit.

    Let's see, what third-rate vassals will be chosen this year for a guest appearance on the Security Council? Will it be Albania or Malta? The suspense is unbearable, who will it be this year...almost as suspenseful as what Ukies-are-suffering and Russia is bad! documentary will get the Oscar.

    Those institutions are all brain-dead, Macron got that right but forgot to mention that they died from the self-inflicted Western narcissism, special people who insists on making the rules but don't follow them. Time to move on.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Emil Nikola Richard, @S1

  191. @Derer
    @Gerard1234

    As more sudetenland is inhabited and taken back from Czechia by Germans, the Czech leading gang is more hawkish towards Russia - exposing advanced schizophrenia. Actually, some decades ago, Russians liberated that land for Czechs.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    Actually, some decades ago, Russians liberated that land for Czechs.

    No good deed ever goes unpunished.

  192. @LatW
    @Sher Singh

    She's not your woman and never will be. Why don't you worry about your own women. You should only be preoccupied with Sikh women.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    Pretty girl. Does she have stereotypical Ukrainian features?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC

    Why don't you stick with homegrown... er, "features", will you? :) Greetings from Karen McDougal. ;)

  193. @QCIC
    @LatW

    Pretty girl. Does she have stereotypical Ukrainian features?

    Replies: @LatW

    Why don’t you stick with homegrown… er, “features”, will you? 🙂 Greetings from Karen McDougal. 😉

    • LOL: QCIC
  194. If you are renting a yacht, don’t go with one where the skipper is on his sixth wife.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebelle_(ship)

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    The script reads like some very macabre story designed to be the background for an Alfred Hitchcock film. What led you to read about this incident in the first place?

    There's a very good classic Polish film "Knife in the Water" directed by Roman Polanski that has some similar creepy undertones:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/N%C3%B3%C5%BC_w_wodzie_%28movie_poster%29.jpg
    Its plot follows a husband and wife who are accompanied on a boating trip by a young male hitchhiker, who spurs a number of escalating confrontations between the couple.

    Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234

  195. @LatW
    @Sher Singh

    She's not your woman and never will be. Why don't you worry about your own women. You should only be preoccupied with Sikh women.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    A totally bizarre, meaningless, nothing post of a worthless shitbag.

    WTF is a retard like you intending to do when you post such garbage? Just time-wasting tactics?

    You would think a rich Sikh businessman, has taken a “ride” on her in Mumbai, in Singapore, in Thailand, in Dubai, in London in Miami already you dumb POS. Several times. Good chance Sikh MONEY from after this whore (and her khokhol friends) f*cked the Sikh businessman is what helped her get this Porsche, LOL.

    As for ukronazi coward limp-wristed males – poorest country in Europe, so not exactly “looking after their women” you dumbfuck….. therefore explains why so many women like her from 404.

    Atrociously low birth rate in 404 – not exactly “looking after their women” to the point they want to have and nurture children with these freaks you stupid dickhead

    As for the very small number of world famous ukrops – there appears to be clear pattern of not wanting to marry another Ukrop, as if ashamed of it:
    Klitschko junior-married an American actress. Klitschko senior, Mayor of Kiev, the German – too stupid to know where to put his d*ck.
    Andrei Shevchenko – inexplicably married to an American. Usik- he’s the closest to a patriot – married to a Russian.

    Then onto the women – Svitolina the tedious tennis player – married a French African. The woman Alex Baldwin killed in a film….. married to an American.

  196. @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1782350416153329803

    Saw open legs & immediately knew whore LOL.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    Even more amusingly, this (admittedly good looking) whore is from Kharkov. I had never heard of her before but it looks like she gained some attention for making a video of returning to Kharkov after leaving it at start of SMO.

    What’s amusing? It appears upto this last month she is self-described “best friends” and travelling in America or Bali or wherever…. with Russia’s most known and richest sex-actress!

    Something Romanova & Elfie is her name (I certainly don’t watch this type of stuff, but she is frequently in newspaper, radio, news portal etc so very easy to have heard of her – though I certainly wouldn’t class her in top 25% of Russian women )

    This khokhol-whore filming probable lesbian sex stuff with Russias most famous in this sector, obviously raises her profile massively and increases her earning potential from perverts.

    That is khokholism in a microcosm – be a whore in some form- physical, moral, business. Use this whoring to gain money, fame or power from Russians.

    Then further use this money gained from parasiting off Russians to travel or live in the West.

    Then maintain this western lifestyle by inventing khokhol credentials and slandering the Russia that made this possible. LOL

  197. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Beckow finds it entertaining when Slavs slaughter Slavs, he’ll be gleefully watching it for another year or so.
     
    You are reading me wrong. It is a tragedy, but it is happening so one might as well get something out of it. Like Titanic was a tragedy, but a good lesson in what not to do. You need to see this as an evolutionary story - who has it and who doesn't.

    You and I disagree on who screwed up and made the catastrophic circus happen. But at the end it is not we who will assess the impact: it is the reality and who wins and who loses. On that we also disagree, although I have noticed you have gone from "offensive to take back Crimea!" (I am exaggerating!) to predicting a stalemate.

    It is unlikely it will end in a stalemate - too much is invested by both sides and all the red lines have been crossed. Nobody is going to take their marbles and go home. This will be a wipe-out victory. Russia started out stronger, but messed around a bit before they got momentum - it is theirs to lose. The Ukies showed no speed and then they quit - how are they going to turn that around?

    It is f..ing entertaining, this only happens once or twice per century. And when will we ever get a hirsute short Eastern European Jew in sweatpants going from playing a piano with his d..k (in public!) to threatening to destroy the world. This is cultural gold, people will talk about it for decades. (Not the Ukies, they will be mostly gone, but we will have quite some memories. I hope it doesn't end next year...the lesson has to be thorough.)

    Replies: @AP

    You are reading me wrong. It is a tragedy, but it is happening so one might as well get something out of it.

    In your case, entertainment.

    You are a very sick person.

    I have noticed you have gone from “offensive to take back Crimea!” (I am exaggerating!) to predicting a stalemate.

    I have always said the most likely result will be a stalemate, with a smaller than 50% chance that the Ukrainians break through in the South.

    The chance of a Ukrainian breakthrough would be close to zero if the Americans walked away. Now it is back.

    It is unlikely it will end in a stalemate

    Do you think that the Russians will be able to capture Kharkiv (population 1.5 million, huge tunnels well-fortified after 2 years of war) or Zaporizhia (population 1 million, also well-fortified) or cross the bridgeless Dnipro river to retake Kherson, capture Mikolaiv (well-fortified, population 500,000) en route to taking Odessa (population 1 million)? Remember how long and with how many deaths it took to take Avdiivka (population 30,000).

    Conversely, there is no way that Ukraine could storm and take large cities like Donetsk or Horlivka.

    So the ultimate lines will be somewhere between these cities. Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas still controlled by Ukraine, or retakes eastern Kharkiv province, or moves north from the Crimean corridor to the very gates of Zaporizhia. Maybe Ukraine moves south and retakes the Crimean corridor. From there, Crimea itself (at least the northern areas) becomes a possibility. Probably another 100,00o troops on each side would die in these attempts. But nobody is going to sacrifice 400,000+ killed or so for a “total victory” in the East and South by capturing the large well-fortified and hostile cities. It is not really the 1940s any more.

    Beyond the battlefield, both sides will probably inflict a lot of damage on each country’s civilian infrastructure. This can be worse for Russia, which has much colder and deadlier winters than Ukraine does, with less opportunity to resettle civilians (Ukrainians can move West, where will millions in the Volga region go when they lose heating and electricity and it is -30 outside. Novosibirsk cnn’t handle that many).

    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.

    This is cultural gold, people will talk about it for decades. (Not the Ukies, they will be mostly gone

    If the Ukrainians are “mostly gone” they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

    But fortunately it won’t come to that, because there will be stalemate of some kind.

    I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough

    I know you don’t. It’s the kind of person you are.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas
     
    And maybe they take more, there are a lot of rural areas in Ukraine that are effectively not defensible at this point. It is really up to how far Russia wants to go. Cities are traps - with no power, water, supplies they can hold out (at huge suffering) for only so long. It has been like that throughout the history. Only Russia's concern for humanity can constrain it. The Frenchie army is not marching in to save anyone.

    At some point even the most fanatical resistance runs out of steam (or live bodies and ammunition). Large parts of Ukraine - maybe majority now - are not pro-Kiev or pro-Russia, they just want the war to be over. See the videos of the Ukie men chased by the draft goons - it is very sad, but it doesn't look like the Ukies want to fight and die anymore. No matter how much Johnson and 'kill all Russians!' maniac Graham want it.

    It will be not be as stalemate. Either a small loss for Kiev-Nato or a bigger one. It was built into the situation from the beginning, you just refused to see it.


    I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough

    I know you don’t. It’s the kind of person you are.
     

    You don't know me, I am usually a pacifist: live and let live. But mistakes have consequences in human evolution: Nato-in-Ukraine was a catastrophic mistake, a very bad idea. That's why you now deny it - it is embarrassing to be that stupid. It takes some time to cure people of bad ideas and some don't make it through the cure.

    It wasn't my preference, I wanted for Ukraine to have peace and normal relations with all neighbors. They chose differently, it has to have consequences, the world is like that.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    , @Cesar1191
    @AP


    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.

     

    Hopefully the war ends soon, but unfortunately, that may be overly optimistic. It seems plausible that unless Russia suffers some kind of economic or political collapse, or Ukraine has some major battlefield victories and is able to credibly threaten Crimea, Russia may just continue.

    It's important to think about incentives here.

    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it's probably not 2025.

    Russia has lost too much, Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it. Furthermore, Putin does not want to see a free and secure Ukraine prospering like its neighbor, so if he fails to conquer Ukraine, the incentive for him is to make Ukraine a failed state in a permanent state of insecurity, over which Russia can continually exercise power or threaten with a new invasion. This is why it will likely be difficult to get a deal from Putin that includes Ukraine's right to join NATO, unless one of the two scenarios above ends up happening.

    Then it is also important to think about the incentives for Ukraine here. The Ukrainian government may want Crimea and Donbas back, but much more than that, they want a guarantee that Russia will not invade again. If Ukraine signs a bad deal, which leaves the country vulnerable to another invasion or constant threats to Russia, it's going to be really difficult to attract foreign direct investment into Ukraine, and it's going to be really difficult to convince Ukrainians not to emigrate if the country ends in a permanent state of poverty and insecurity.

    Of course, the Ukrainian government may end up signing a bad deal if they are left with no other option, whether because the lines are collapsing and the Russian military is advancing or because they have reached some hard limit on their resources, they may end up not having a choice, but as long as they have choices, they will choose to fight for a good deal. This is because they know, that depending on the agreement they sign, it could mean long-term success or failure of Ukraine.

    If the Ukrainians are “mostly gone” they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

     

    I'm not 100% sure about Slovakia, but Ukrainian immigrants are quite popular in almost every country in Europe, polls always show this. Western European countries are especially excited to receive good immigrants, as a counterbalance to all the terrible immigrants they received, and the truth is that Ukrainians, like most European immigrants, will intermarry with the locals, learn the local language and become indistinguishable from the natives of the countries where they go.

    This situation is a double-edged sword for Ukraine. On the one hand, it's a good thing that Ukrainian children have a place to go, and that in general, Ukrainians are not trapped between an expansionist Russia and a hard border with no one on the other side to accept them. On the other hand, this means that the Ukrainian government will have to compete with the West for its own citizens, and obviously that is not fair, given the West's advantages, and the fact that Russia is attacking Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

  198. @Beckow
    @Mikhail

    It amounts to freezing the non-existing stalemate - and it is not enforceable. The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.

    The real lesson of Finland for Russia is that they can't trust the West - Finns got off lightly after WW2 - they were murderous Nazi allies responsible for hundreds of thousands dead in St. Petersburg. Russia let them off when they committed to neutrality. Helsinki betrayed that last year.

    How can Russia take any promise of "no Nato in Ukraine?" seriously after Finland? No matter how formal and how much the Ukies and Nato swear that they mean it. Russia will ignore promises and treaties and simply control the ground. It makes the 5-point plan irrelevant.

    The only way to avoid it is to defeat Russia. The Ukies can't do it, and can you see hundreds of thousands Westies lining up to die for it? I don't think so. That makes the final outcome rather obvious.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.

    Who has remained loyal to the ideas that formed the basis for the Budapest Memorandum? Who’s abandoned the principles of respecting Ukraine’s sovereignty and the prohibition of crossing its borders and fomenting war, the West or Russia? These principles have 0nly been discarded by one signatory that no longer finds them to be useful.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Budapest Memorandum isn't legally binding unlike the UNSC approved Minks Accords. Post-Soviet Ukraine didn't have operating control over the nuclear arsenal on its territory.

    Kiev regime, Germany and France admitted to signing the Minsk Accords without ever intending to honor it. Instead, to buy time when a militarily stronger Ukraine could takeover the rebel held Donbass territory. Stoltenberg acknowledged a war like situation in the former Ukrainian SSR in the years leading up to the 2/24/22 initiated SMO. He added that NATO was arming and training the Kiev regime forces during that time period.

    Just prior to the SMO, there was a dramatic increase in Kiev regime shelling of Donbass as noted by OSCE observers. Going back further was the violation of the power sharing agreement between Yanukovych and the opposition.

    Continued neutrality and honoring the power sharing agreement are key factors to what led to the SMO. BTW, there're two internationally signed documents involving NATO states, Russia and Ukraine, stating that an expanded military alliance shouldn't be at the expense of the security of another nation.

    Lindsey Graham, Lloyd Austin, Mitch McConnell, the Economist editor and others have clearly indicated a proxy war looking to weaken Russia without Western forces being directly involved in the fighting. They're okay with Ukrainians dying en masse as opposed to the reasonable diplomatic process favored by Russia and some others.

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Budapest Memorandum was based on Ukraine's neutrality - it was not a Treaty and Russia didn't ratify it, it was a 'letter of intent'. Kiev then explicitly violated the neutrality part by putting membership in Nato in its Constitution.

    Nato broke its declared intent not to expand eastward that was the basis for ending Cold War. US also broke the ABM treaty by placing missiles in Poland and Romania. US-UK-EU broke UN Charter by starting aggressive wars in Serbia, Iraq, Syria - all were explicitly against the UN Charter.

    France-Germany-Ukraine proudly broke the Minsk deal that would have prevented this war - they were even boasting about how they "tricked Russia, to buy time..."

    I don't think Russia will fall for it again. The horrible price will be paid for by Ukraine. Too bad, but constant cheating and dishonesty always have a price. Kiev identifies with Nato: they own Nato aggressive wars and massive killing of civilians, bombing of Beograd...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  199. Russians dumped in trenches without food or water

    THEY SHOULD GET ONLINE AND GO TO UNZ

    THEN THEY CAN LEARN THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    The Russian people wont tolerate this treatment of its soldiers forever, and only underscores the barbarism of Putler and his ruling clique of henchmen.

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/02/08/dac49f16f8b96805743a02811dcbbbaa.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp

    Replies: @John Johnson

  200. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Orest...this looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship with JJ. Keep trolling.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Is paying somebody a compliment your idea of trolling somebody? You really are a screwed up little kremlin stooge. Are you a recent graduate of kremlin troll school? Just out of curiosity, how much are you being paid to monitor this website?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    ...how much are you being paid to monitor this website?
     
    You lost your marbles...I do it for free. BTW, I just managed to obtain your IP, expect the unexpected knock on your doors.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Derer

  201. @songbird
    If you are renting a yacht, don't go with one where the skipper is on his sixth wife.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebelle_(ship)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The script reads like some very macabre story designed to be the background for an Alfred Hitchcock film. What led you to read about this incident in the first place?

    There’s a very good classic Polish film “Knife in the Water” directed by Roman Polanski that has some similar creepy undertones:


    Its plot follows a husband and wife who are accompanied on a boating trip by a young male hitchhiker, who spurs a number of escalating confrontations between the couple.

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    What led you to read about this incident in the first place?
     
    I don't usually go in for these crime stories, but I had heard about the girl being rescued, and I wanted to find out what happened to the killer and whether he displayed any psychopathic traits beforehand.

    IMO, the story contains a few interesting elements. It is kind of curious how it basically was the dentist's relative wealth that led to selecting the path to tragedy (i.e. going on a cruise vacation in a yacht skippered by a psycho.)

    Makes me wonder what the death toll of insurance scams has been. I recall this case:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Keith_Jr.

    There were also these:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffin_ship_(insurance)
    , @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Without having seen this Polanski film, it does sound to be very similar to a film called "Dead Calm" starring the guy from Jurassic Park and Nicole Kidman.

    An English-language remake of it?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  202. Damn look at how much better the Ukrainians have gotten at using FPVs against tanks:

    They knew right where to put it.

    Incredible

  203. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.
     
    Who has remained loyal to the ideas that formed the basis for the Budapest Memorandum? Who's abandoned the principles of respecting Ukraine's sovereignty and the prohibition of crossing its borders and fomenting war, the West or Russia? These principles have 0nly been discarded by one signatory that no longer finds them to be useful.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow

    Budapest Memorandum isn’t legally binding unlike the UNSC approved Minks Accords. Post-Soviet Ukraine didn’t have operating control over the nuclear arsenal on its territory.

    Kiev regime, Germany and France admitted to signing the Minsk Accords without ever intending to honor it. Instead, to buy time when a militarily stronger Ukraine could takeover the rebel held Donbass territory. Stoltenberg acknowledged a war like situation in the former Ukrainian SSR in the years leading up to the 2/24/22 initiated SMO. He added that NATO was arming and training the Kiev regime forces during that time period.

    Just prior to the SMO, there was a dramatic increase in Kiev regime shelling of Donbass as noted by OSCE observers. Going back further was the violation of the power sharing agreement between Yanukovych and the opposition.

    Continued neutrality and honoring the power sharing agreement are key factors to what led to the SMO. BTW, there’re two internationally signed documents involving NATO states, Russia and Ukraine, stating that an expanded military alliance shouldn’t be at the expense of the security of another nation.

    Lindsey Graham, Lloyd Austin, Mitch McConnell, the Economist editor and others have clearly indicated a proxy war looking to weaken Russia without Western forces being directly involved in the fighting. They’re okay with Ukrainians dying en masse as opposed to the reasonable diplomatic process favored by Russia and some others.

  204. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.
     
    Who has remained loyal to the ideas that formed the basis for the Budapest Memorandum? Who's abandoned the principles of respecting Ukraine's sovereignty and the prohibition of crossing its borders and fomenting war, the West or Russia? These principles have 0nly been discarded by one signatory that no longer finds them to be useful.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow

    Budapest Memorandum was based on Ukraine’s neutrality – it was not a Treaty and Russia didn’t ratify it, it was a ‘letter of intent’. Kiev then explicitly violated the neutrality part by putting membership in Nato in its Constitution.

    Nato broke its declared intent not to expand eastward that was the basis for ending Cold War. US also broke the ABM treaty by placing missiles in Poland and Romania. US-UK-EU broke UN Charter by starting aggressive wars in Serbia, Iraq, Syria – all were explicitly against the UN Charter.

    France-Germany-Ukraine proudly broke the Minsk deal that would have prevented this war – they were even boasting about how they “tricked Russia, to buy time…”

    I don’t think Russia will fall for it again. The horrible price will be paid for by Ukraine. Too bad, but constant cheating and dishonesty always have a price. Kiev identifies with Nato: they own Nato aggressive wars and massive killing of civilians, bombing of Beograd…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I'm not aware of any stipulations about Ukraine's "neutrality" within this document, nor for that matter of any prohibitions of Ukraine ceasing any attempts to explore NATO involvement on its territories? Where, exactly are these requirements spelled out within this document?

    Replies: @Beckow

  205. @John Johnson
    Russians dumped in trenches without food or water

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icb2Q1URqQY

    THEY SHOULD GET ONLINE AND GO TO UNZ

    THEN THEY CAN LEARN THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The Russian people wont tolerate this treatment of its soldiers forever, and only underscores the barbarism of Putler and his ruling clique of henchmen.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    The Russian people wont tolerate this treatment of its soldiers forever, and only underscores the barbarism of Putler and his ruling clique of henchmen.

    How a government treats its frontline soldiers tells you all you need to know. Leaving men without food or water shows that you value them as no better than the enemy. Their lives are meaningless.

    Putin is dumping conscripts in trenches and basically telling them to die in order to reduce Ukrainian artillery stocks by one.

    It's eerily similar to how Russians fought in WW2.

    Even when the Germans were retreating the Russians would use mindless wave tactics where they would try to storm a position and without any plan whatsoever.

    There are stories where Germans had to abandon their trenches because they ran out of bullets. Russians would be stacked on top of each other and they would keep coming. The Germans would take out a few more with a shovel and then run away. More like a zombie movie than a battle.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  206. @Beckow
    @Mikhail

    It amounts to freezing the non-existing stalemate - and it is not enforceable. The West lies, they use treaties as tools and leave them once they are not useful.

    The real lesson of Finland for Russia is that they can't trust the West - Finns got off lightly after WW2 - they were murderous Nazi allies responsible for hundreds of thousands dead in St. Petersburg. Russia let them off when they committed to neutrality. Helsinki betrayed that last year.

    How can Russia take any promise of "no Nato in Ukraine?" seriously after Finland? No matter how formal and how much the Ukies and Nato swear that they mean it. Russia will ignore promises and treaties and simply control the ground. It makes the 5-point plan irrelevant.

    The only way to avoid it is to defeat Russia. The Ukies can't do it, and can you see hundreds of thousands Westies lining up to die for it? I don't think so. That makes the final outcome rather obvious.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    How can Russia take any promise of “no Nato in Ukraine?” seriously after Finland?

    How can Finland take Russian promises of “we don’t want war, it’s just a training exercise” seriously after invading Ukraine?

    This is like attacking your neighbor and then getting upset when the other one puts up cameras and fences.

    How dare you prepare for the exact scenario that I said wouldn’t happen before I did it.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    It is a chicken-and-egg: an action leads to a reaction. Since we are in an all-out war it is irrelevant. What matters is that Russia can use Finland's betrayal of its neutrality - gift from Russia after WW2 - to refuse similar promise with Ukraine.

    Russia has placed short-distance nukes on the Finnish border, they can vaporize Helsinki in 5 minutes. Finnish territory is now a primary target and their safety is gone. Maybe it doesn't matter, but how are Finns better off? Only a complete raving maniac could claim that Russia was planning to march into Finland or Sweden. They exchanged peace and tranquility for being on the front-line in a nuclear exchange. If anything happens they will be the first to go. Maybe a good thing, but still, why?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Johnny, You should know that NATO in Finland is actually more detrimental to Finland than Russia. Joining sinking ship instead of neutrality is really stupid for Finland. In NATO, everything is done under duress and the duress-or resides in Washington.

    The cohesion is fragile actually even arms calibration is different among members and the bickering is increasing by the day because of the money and purpose. The end is near, actually the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the moment.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

  207. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    The script reads like some very macabre story designed to be the background for an Alfred Hitchcock film. What led you to read about this incident in the first place?

    There's a very good classic Polish film "Knife in the Water" directed by Roman Polanski that has some similar creepy undertones:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/N%C3%B3%C5%BC_w_wodzie_%28movie_poster%29.jpg
    Its plot follows a husband and wife who are accompanied on a boating trip by a young male hitchhiker, who spurs a number of escalating confrontations between the couple.

    Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234

    What led you to read about this incident in the first place?

    I don’t usually go in for these crime stories, but I had heard about the girl being rescued, and I wanted to find out what happened to the killer and whether he displayed any psychopathic traits beforehand.

    IMO, the story contains a few interesting elements. It is kind of curious how it basically was the dentist’s relative wealth that led to selecting the path to tragedy (i.e. going on a cruise vacation in a yacht skippered by a psycho.)

    Makes me wonder what the death toll of insurance scams has been. I recall this case:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Keith_Jr.

    There were also these:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffin_ship_(insurance)

  208. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Budapest Memorandum was based on Ukraine's neutrality - it was not a Treaty and Russia didn't ratify it, it was a 'letter of intent'. Kiev then explicitly violated the neutrality part by putting membership in Nato in its Constitution.

    Nato broke its declared intent not to expand eastward that was the basis for ending Cold War. US also broke the ABM treaty by placing missiles in Poland and Romania. US-UK-EU broke UN Charter by starting aggressive wars in Serbia, Iraq, Syria - all were explicitly against the UN Charter.

    France-Germany-Ukraine proudly broke the Minsk deal that would have prevented this war - they were even boasting about how they "tricked Russia, to buy time..."

    I don't think Russia will fall for it again. The horrible price will be paid for by Ukraine. Too bad, but constant cheating and dishonesty always have a price. Kiev identifies with Nato: they own Nato aggressive wars and massive killing of civilians, bombing of Beograd...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I’m not aware of any stipulations about Ukraine’s “neutrality” within this document, nor for that matter of any prohibitions of Ukraine ceasing any attempts to explore NATO involvement on its territories? Where, exactly are these requirements spelled out within this document?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Get your head out of the sand...maybe google NY Times archives and read what everyone said about it at that time: Kiev gives up access to the Soviet nukes on its territory and pledges neutrality.

    It was a memorandum, an MOU. Do you know what a memorandum is? It outlines in a non-binding form what each side promises to do. Russia and the West took it as 'nukes for neutrality'. If you planned to trick them and parse the words it was the wrong format.

    Memorandums are non-binding, they are about trust. If Kiev-Nato deceived the other side, they broke that trust and there is no Memorandum. That's the way MOUs work in business and diplomacy...it is not a 'contract' or a 'treaty'. If you are too unsophisticated to know this you are better off hiding it...:)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  209. One of the problems with the latest arms bill is that more US military commissioned officers will die in Ukraine. This will be used as an excuse to increase censorship of any information from the the conflict. This censorship will be a direct result of the US meddling and aggression which the Ukies of Unz support (UoU). Great job, morons.

    All wars lead to expanded censorship which is never fully rolled back. Therefore information control continually ratchets up. The end game now visible is that all media will be fakes generated by dumb government trolls using AI.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    Enhanced mission creep scenario. Making it easier to spy on American citizens serves as an offset to curtail this matter.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  210. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    The Russian people wont tolerate this treatment of its soldiers forever, and only underscores the barbarism of Putler and his ruling clique of henchmen.

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/02/08/dac49f16f8b96805743a02811dcbbbaa.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The Russian people wont tolerate this treatment of its soldiers forever, and only underscores the barbarism of Putler and his ruling clique of henchmen.

    How a government treats its frontline soldiers tells you all you need to know. Leaving men without food or water shows that you value them as no better than the enemy. Their lives are meaningless.

    Putin is dumping conscripts in trenches and basically telling them to die in order to reduce Ukrainian artillery stocks by one.

    It’s eerily similar to how Russians fought in WW2.

    Even when the Germans were retreating the Russians would use mindless wave tactics where they would try to storm a position and without any plan whatsoever.

    There are stories where Germans had to abandon their trenches because they ran out of bullets. Russians would be stacked on top of each other and they would keep coming. The Germans would take out a few more with a shovel and then run away. More like a zombie movie than a battle.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Really a crying matter, with laughing as an offset. Kiev regime press ganging older folks who go into battle with light training along with the defend to the end MO and reckless frontal assaults.

  211. How Armenia destroyed in just a few years what it had spent decades building

    https://www-anti--spiegel-ru.translate.goog/2024/wie-armenien-in-wenigen-jahren-zerstoert-hat-was-es-in-jahrzehnten-aufgebaut-hatte/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    That link is to an auto translate. Writer lives in S. Petersberg. There are a couple links there my browser is barfing on and this one might not work for everybody.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am still surprised that the wealthy Armenian diaspora could not stop this Pashinyan mess. I guess these people were educated in the West and were just too stupid to see what was going on. This Armenia stupidity is one of the dumbest geopolitical moves ever, so they may be even dimmer than the Ukies. Armenia is surrounded on three sides by rabid hungry dogs. What they need to trade to Russia to ensure their security is tiny compared to what they are giving up. I suppose there must be some wealthy anti-Soviet Armenians in the diaspora who are inconsolable and the West (Soros, MI6, CIA) has captured their hearts and minds. Maybe they were surprised and confused by the maturation of the DICh countries.

    The Armenian people should feed Pashinyan and his complete team to the pigs immediately and lead the sincere formation of Caucasus Christian Union with Georgia and Russia. They can consummate this deal by expeditiously sending several tens of thousands of trained volunteer troops to Russia for combat duty in Ukraine to become hardened pros. This would require a reciprocal security agreement so that Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iraq or Kurds do not take advantage of the opportunity of reduced forces at home. Armenians and Georgians could also play a small but valuable third-party role in the policing and rebuilding of the immediate post-SMO era in Ukraine, assuming Russia can filter out or crush most of the opportunistic crooks.

  212. @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    The Russian people wont tolerate this treatment of its soldiers forever, and only underscores the barbarism of Putler and his ruling clique of henchmen.

    How a government treats its frontline soldiers tells you all you need to know. Leaving men without food or water shows that you value them as no better than the enemy. Their lives are meaningless.

    Putin is dumping conscripts in trenches and basically telling them to die in order to reduce Ukrainian artillery stocks by one.

    It's eerily similar to how Russians fought in WW2.

    Even when the Germans were retreating the Russians would use mindless wave tactics where they would try to storm a position and without any plan whatsoever.

    There are stories where Germans had to abandon their trenches because they ran out of bullets. Russians would be stacked on top of each other and they would keep coming. The Germans would take out a few more with a shovel and then run away. More like a zombie movie than a battle.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Really a crying matter, with laughing as an offset. Kiev regime press ganging older folks who go into battle with light training along with the defend to the end MO and reckless frontal assaults.

  213. @QCIC
    One of the problems with the latest arms bill is that more US military commissioned officers will die in Ukraine. This will be used as an excuse to increase censorship of any information from the the conflict. This censorship will be a direct result of the US meddling and aggression which the Ukies of Unz support (UoU). Great job, morons.

    All wars lead to expanded censorship which is never fully rolled back. Therefore information control continually ratchets up. The end game now visible is that all media will be fakes generated by dumb government trolls using AI.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Enhanced mission creep scenario. Making it easier to spy on American citizens serves as an offset to curtail this matter.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Well, in your case as I recall, the FBI is quite open about interrogating you. Or do you think that they're now tapping your phones too?

  214. Could the obesity crisis be a conspiracy to reduce violent crime by making the criminally-inclined too fat to offend? (except the eyes.)
    ________
    Interesting decline in massacres. I wonder if the timeline was just Western (as I’d guess) or universal.

    https://www.lefineder.com/p/the-pacification-of-war?publication_id=1412291&post_id=143685277&isFreemail=true&r=67yii&triedRedirect=true

    I recall reading Camden’s account of Smerwick and finding it a little strange, as IIRC, it mentioned something like a tear standing in Lord Grey’s eye (am exaggerating slightly), after he did what was necessary. Of course, this was after Grey had became a political target.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Smerwick

    I believe Grey’s own account of what he did in Ireland was destroyed in a fire, which was a great loss to history. I very deeply wanted to read a certain part of it, to confirm a theory I had.

    Anyway, my own idea is that the decline might be related to the creation of popular histories using the printing press, that Camden’s tear comment is related.

  215. Did you have an equivalent video of Ukrainian conscripts:

    1. Being told to scrounge for tampons for bullet wounds
    2. Being handed rusty AK-47s
    3. Being told to return to a trench even though they have 1 magazine for 5 people
    4. Being told that 2 weeks training is enough
    5. Showing strange blue food in an MRE
    6. Showing rotten food that they are expected to eat
    7. Dropped in a trench without food or water

    The world can see which side views their own soldiers as trash.

    Just as the world can see which side scrambled for washing machines and dishwashers at the start of the war. There will be no unseeing the Russian stealing the children’s train.

    Russians make their own image globally just like Blacks in the US. It isn’t some Anglo conspiracy. When a Black thug runs out of a mini mart with his pants down after trying to rob the place for $15 there wasn’t some Anglo named Ted that was responsible.

    The cringe is real.

    Good luck with your PR attempts at trying to deny the obvious. Must have been nice when Russian Tsars of the past didn’t have to deal with that pesky Anglo invention called the internet and could hide the appalling conditions of their soldiers.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Keep carrying on like a svidomite troll along with your racist outbursts. Russian soldiers are far better equipped and trained than those of the Kiev regime.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  216. @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    Enhanced mission creep scenario. Making it easier to spy on American citizens serves as an offset to curtail this matter.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Well, in your case as I recall, the FBI is quite open about interrogating you. Or do you think that they’re now tapping your phones too?

  217. @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    I just received this reply in line with you:


    That train has left a long time ago. Considering what people like Medvedev and some other Russian politicians are saying, they will never trust the West again, and agreements would be useless, they say, since they will not be respected by the West. Sanctions have hurt the West more than Russia, which is in the process of forming alternatives to past relationships with the West. Sad, but the West's delusions of grandeur and faith in their own propaganda about "Russian weakness"etc., have created this situation.

     

    Convoluted Kiev regime and its main backers won't accept it at this time. Your point leads to the trust but verify matter leading to the strictly enforced note which could involve a Russian military presence in places like Odessa and Kharkov. It'll need to be clearly worded in detail with UN approval to provide enough security for Russia to go along with.

    We could go another year or two with the Kiev regime weakened even more and Russia stronger with added territory.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …West’s delusions of grandeur and faith in their own propaganda about “Russian weakness”etc., have created this situation.

    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda. They are possibly not very smart or live busy lives with all that cubicle work calling each other to sell stuff. No time to think. The physical stuff again beat self-aggrandizement.

    clearly worded in detail with UN approval…

    We are beyond words, they are now to only describe what is happening. UN is irrelevant – you can’t have Washington call Palau or 100 other minor dependencies and take that seriously. Security Council will stay but be mostly blocked. The rest of UN is effectively dead: pricey NY party circuit.

    Let’s see, what third-rate vassals will be chosen this year for a guest appearance on the Security Council? Will it be Albania or Malta? The suspense is unbearable, who will it be this year…almost as suspenseful as what Ukies-are-suffering and Russia is bad! documentary will get the Oscar.

    Those institutions are all brain-dead, Macron got that right but forgot to mention that they died from the self-inflicted Western narcissism, special people who insists on making the rules but don’t follow them. Time to move on.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    KFOR in Kosovo leads to why not CSTO in the former Ukrainian SSR at some point? The Yugo 1999 action is a neocon confirmation of might making right. There will be some form of Russian victory on Russian terms with an agreement which Russia will feel secure enough.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda.
     
    Boiling the frog.

    Scott Alexander and Zvi Mowshowitz have written at tedious length how the rule book has been totally re-written and only the obsessed or savvy can keep up. See here:

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/on-bounded-distrust

    He thinks anthropogenic global warming and Ivermectin ineffectiveness at covid are proven factual. Even some obsessed savvy thinkers are hosed. Ron Unz believes Jeffrey Sachs.
    , @S1
    @Beckow


    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda.
     
    Every person should read Edward L Bernays' disturbing 1928 book Propaganda excerpted and linked below. In my opinion the book would more accurately be called Brainwash and the tactics described within (which Bernays is all for) should be outlawed and actively policed against.

    Bernays is seen as something like the godfather of modern mass advertising in the United States. While no doubt there's plenty of propaganda to spare the world over, with this book being published in the US, America and it's satellite states no doubt got more than their fair share of propagandization.

    This book was published almost a hundred years ago in 1928. God only knows where the 'technology' in this field is at today.

    The easy anecdote of course is to turn off the TV and radio, and other devices, and to engage in original and independent thought.


    https://archive.org/details/BernaysPropaganda/mode/1up

    We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of....They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure....Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country...It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.'


    Propaganda - CHAPTER I - ORGANIZING CHAOS

    The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.

    We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of
    the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.

    Our invisible governors are, in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet.
     


    continued

    'They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure. Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons — a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty million — who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.

     

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  218. @John Johnson
    Did you have an equivalent video of Ukrainian conscripts:

    1. Being told to scrounge for tampons for bullet wounds
    2. Being handed rusty AK-47s
    3. Being told to return to a trench even though they have 1 magazine for 5 people
    4. Being told that 2 weeks training is enough
    5. Showing strange blue food in an MRE
    6. Showing rotten food that they are expected to eat
    7. Dropped in a trench without food or water

    The world can see which side views their own soldiers as trash.

    Just as the world can see which side scrambled for washing machines and dishwashers at the start of the war. There will be no unseeing the Russian stealing the children's train.

    Russians make their own image globally just like Blacks in the US. It isn't some Anglo conspiracy. When a Black thug runs out of a mini mart with his pants down after trying to rob the place for $15 there wasn't some Anglo named Ted that was responsible.

    The cringe is real.

    Good luck with your PR attempts at trying to deny the obvious. Must have been nice when Russian Tsars of the past didn't have to deal with that pesky Anglo invention called the internet and could hide the appalling conditions of their soldiers.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Keep carrying on like a svidomite troll along with your racist outbursts. Russian soldiers are far better equipped and trained than those of the Kiev regime.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Keep carrying on like a svidomite troll along with your racist outbursts. Russian soldiers are far better equipped and trained than those of the Kiev regime.

    So you have no comparable video showing similar conditions for Ukrainians. Got it.

    Did you see this in the news?

    American goes to fight for Russian values, gets killed and buttraped by Russian soldiers
    https://nypost.com/2024/04/20/world-news/pro-kremlin-texan-russell-bentley-found-dead-in-ukraine/

    Here he is showing an award for softest ass they could find in combat:
    https://ukranews.com/upload/media/2024/04/20/6623862e8a965-file-17fd6f988cb425163219d05c2dae1c25.jpg.webp

    He was at one time a pot advocate and Communist:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russell-texas-bentley-putin-propaganda-ukraine-interview-1315433/

    Oh and born into a wealthy family which is common for our confused radical leftists.

    Boy Putin really attracts some quality Americans.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Matra, @QCIC

  219. @AP
    @Beckow


    You are reading me wrong. It is a tragedy, but it is happening so one might as well get something out of it.
     
    In your case, entertainment.

    You are a very sick person.


    I have noticed you have gone from “offensive to take back Crimea!” (I am exaggerating!) to predicting a stalemate.
     
    I have always said the most likely result will be a stalemate, with a smaller than 50% chance that the Ukrainians break through in the South.

    The chance of a Ukrainian breakthrough would be close to zero if the Americans walked away. Now it is back.


    It is unlikely it will end in a stalemate
     
    Do you think that the Russians will be able to capture Kharkiv (population 1.5 million, huge tunnels well-fortified after 2 years of war) or Zaporizhia (population 1 million, also well-fortified) or cross the bridgeless Dnipro river to retake Kherson, capture Mikolaiv (well-fortified, population 500,000) en route to taking Odessa (population 1 million)? Remember how long and with how many deaths it took to take Avdiivka (population 30,000).

    Conversely, there is no way that Ukraine could storm and take large cities like Donetsk or Horlivka.

    So the ultimate lines will be somewhere between these cities. Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas still controlled by Ukraine, or retakes eastern Kharkiv province, or moves north from the Crimean corridor to the very gates of Zaporizhia. Maybe Ukraine moves south and retakes the Crimean corridor. From there, Crimea itself (at least the northern areas) becomes a possibility. Probably another 100,00o troops on each side would die in these attempts. But nobody is going to sacrifice 400,000+ killed or so for a "total victory" in the East and South by capturing the large well-fortified and hostile cities. It is not really the 1940s any more.

    Beyond the battlefield, both sides will probably inflict a lot of damage on each country's civilian infrastructure. This can be worse for Russia, which has much colder and deadlier winters than Ukraine does, with less opportunity to resettle civilians (Ukrainians can move West, where will millions in the Volga region go when they lose heating and electricity and it is -30 outside. Novosibirsk cnn't handle that many).

    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.


    This is cultural gold, people will talk about it for decades. (Not the Ukies, they will be mostly gone
     
    If the Ukrainians are "mostly gone" they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

    But fortunately it won't come to that, because there will be stalemate of some kind.


    I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough
     
    I know you don't. It's the kind of person you are.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Cesar1191

    Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas

    And maybe they take more, there are a lot of rural areas in Ukraine that are effectively not defensible at this point. It is really up to how far Russia wants to go. Cities are traps – with no power, water, supplies they can hold out (at huge suffering) for only so long. It has been like that throughout the history. Only Russia’s concern for humanity can constrain it. The Frenchie army is not marching in to save anyone.

    At some point even the most fanatical resistance runs out of steam (or live bodies and ammunition). Large parts of Ukraine – maybe majority now – are not pro-Kiev or pro-Russia, they just want the war to be over. See the videos of the Ukie men chased by the draft goons – it is very sad, but it doesn’t look like the Ukies want to fight and die anymore. No matter how much Johnson and ‘kill all Russians!’ maniac Graham want it.

    It will be not be as stalemate. Either a small loss for Kiev-Nato or a bigger one. It was built into the situation from the beginning, you just refused to see it.

    I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough

    I know you don’t. It’s the kind of person you are.

    You don’t know me, I am usually a pacifist: live and let live. But mistakes have consequences in human evolution: Nato-in-Ukraine was a catastrophic mistake, a very bad idea. That’s why you now deny it – it is embarrassing to be that stupid. It takes some time to cure people of bad ideas and some don’t make it through the cure.

    It wasn’t my preference, I wanted for Ukraine to have peace and normal relations with all neighbors. They chose differently, it has to have consequences, the world is like that.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Nato-in-Ukraine was a catastrophic mistake, a very bad idea. That’s why you now deny it – it is embarrassing to be that stupid.

    Ukraine was not in NATO nor were they in the process of applying.

    Would you describe the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a good idea?

    Did NATO expand further East before or after the invasion?

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas

    And maybe they take more, there are a lot of rural areas in Ukraine that are effectively not defensible at this point.
     
    Not really. Otherwise Russia would be moving a lot faster and more easily, without mass casualties.

    Neither side would be able to take the big cities on the map:

    https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/static/maps/UP-map.jpg

    Cities are traps – with no power, water, supplies they can hold out (at huge suffering) for only so long.
     
    Besieging and surrounding a large city like Kharkiv would take what - a million soldiers?

    This isn't World War II.

    Large parts of Ukraine – maybe majority now – are not pro-Kiev or pro-Russia, they just want the war to be over
     
    So says the guy who insisted Ukrainians would surrender in a few weeks.

    Another example of your deep knowledge of the country.

    It will be not be as stalemate. Either a small loss for Kiev-Nato or a bigger one
     
    Prediction: you will creatively interpret a stalemate as a Russian victory.

    Replies: @Derer

  220. @Emil Nikola Richard
    How Armenia destroyed in just a few years what it had spent decades building

    https://www-anti--spiegel-ru.translate.goog/2024/wie-armenien-in-wenigen-jahren-zerstoert-hat-was-es-in-jahrzehnten-aufgebaut-hatte/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    That link is to an auto translate. Writer lives in S. Petersberg. There are a couple links there my browser is barfing on and this one might not work for everybody.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I am still surprised that the wealthy Armenian diaspora could not stop this Pashinyan mess. I guess these people were educated in the West and were just too stupid to see what was going on. This Armenia stupidity is one of the dumbest geopolitical moves ever, so they may be even dimmer than the Ukies. Armenia is surrounded on three sides by rabid hungry dogs. What they need to trade to Russia to ensure their security is tiny compared to what they are giving up. I suppose there must be some wealthy anti-Soviet Armenians in the diaspora who are inconsolable and the West (Soros, MI6, CIA) has captured their hearts and minds. Maybe they were surprised and confused by the maturation of the DICh countries.

    The Armenian people should feed Pashinyan and his complete team to the pigs immediately and lead the sincere formation of Caucasus Christian Union with Georgia and Russia. They can consummate this deal by expeditiously sending several tens of thousands of trained volunteer troops to Russia for combat duty in Ukraine to become hardened pros. This would require a reciprocal security agreement so that Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iraq or Kurds do not take advantage of the opportunity of reduced forces at home. Armenians and Georgians could also play a small but valuable third-party role in the policing and rebuilding of the immediate post-SMO era in Ukraine, assuming Russia can filter out or crush most of the opportunistic crooks.

  221. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    The script reads like some very macabre story designed to be the background for an Alfred Hitchcock film. What led you to read about this incident in the first place?

    There's a very good classic Polish film "Knife in the Water" directed by Roman Polanski that has some similar creepy undertones:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/N%C3%B3%C5%BC_w_wodzie_%28movie_poster%29.jpg
    Its plot follows a husband and wife who are accompanied on a boating trip by a young male hitchhiker, who spurs a number of escalating confrontations between the couple.

    Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234

    Without having seen this Polanski film, it does sound to be very similar to a film called “Dead Calm” starring the guy from Jurassic Park and Nicole Kidman.

    An English-language remake of it?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234


    An English-language remake of it?


    What's the matter, don't your pan-slavic skills extend to understanding the Polish language? The film certainly can be found with English subtitles. Probably with Russian ones too. I'm glad that I know Ukrainian and don't have any difficulties with understanding either Polish or Russian.

    I've never seen "Dead Calm" but since you think that it's interesting, I'll give it a whirl sometime. How's the preparation going for your dacha garden this year?

  222. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I'm not aware of any stipulations about Ukraine's "neutrality" within this document, nor for that matter of any prohibitions of Ukraine ceasing any attempts to explore NATO involvement on its territories? Where, exactly are these requirements spelled out within this document?

    Replies: @Beckow

    Get your head out of the sand…maybe google NY Times archives and read what everyone said about it at that time: Kiev gives up access to the Soviet nukes on its territory and pledges neutrality.

    It was a memorandum, an MOU. Do you know what a memorandum is? It outlines in a non-binding form what each side promises to do. Russia and the West took it as ‘nukes for neutrality‘. If you planned to trick them and parse the words it was the wrong format.

    Memorandums are non-binding, they are about trust. If Kiev-Nato deceived the other side, they broke that trust and there is no Memorandum. That’s the way MOUs work in business and diplomacy…it is not a ‘contract’ or a ‘treaty’. If you are too unsophisticated to know this you are better off hiding it…:)

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    maybe google NY Times archives and read what everyone said about it at that time: Kiev gives up access to the Soviet nukes on its territory and pledges neutrality.
     
    I'm not interested in what you or some other journalist felt about the Memorandum when it first came out. I only asked you to point out where exactly within the document one can find anything about Ukraine remaining neutral, or its exclusion from any NATO involvement. If you can't answer these simple questions, I'm left to believe that these topics were never included within the document.
  223. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Keep carrying on like a svidomite troll along with your racist outbursts. Russian soldiers are far better equipped and trained than those of the Kiev regime.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Keep carrying on like a svidomite troll along with your racist outbursts. Russian soldiers are far better equipped and trained than those of the Kiev regime.

    So you have no comparable video showing similar conditions for Ukrainians. Got it.

    Did you see this in the news?

    American goes to fight for Russian values, gets killed and buttraped by Russian soldiers
    https://nypost.com/2024/04/20/world-news/pro-kremlin-texan-russell-bentley-found-dead-in-ukraine/

    Here he is showing an award for softest ass they could find in combat:
    He was at one time a pot advocate and Communist:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russell-texas-bentley-putin-propaganda-ukraine-interview-1315433/

    Oh and born into a wealthy family which is common for our confused radical leftists.

    Boy Putin really attracts some quality Americans.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Not like your favorite girly man:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4sRLMFb-w

    Plenty of footage showing Kiev regime personnel in dire conditions. What you provide as proof for Russia is UK mass media BS like the ones saying Russians have to fight with shovels and need computer chips from washing machines.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Matra
    @John Johnson

    I tried to listen to an interview with this Bentley guy about six months ago but had to give up due to his comically archaic commie way of talking. Every other word was 'Fascist' or 'Nazi', obviously when referring to anyone who was not on the Russian side. It was like something out of a time capsule but maybe that's how Donbass people talk.

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The Rolling Stone interview is interesting and adds some clarity to why Bentley ended up over there.

  224. Women who volunteer to go to Africa should perhaps be sent to antiwokeness camps instead:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @songbird

    Women who volunteer to go to Africa should perhaps be sent to antiwokeness camps instead:

    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to. Most White liberals have been around Northern mulattoes and not actual Bantu.

    Heck a 2 week internship in Baltimore is all it takes.

    Most realize that liberalism is a lie and move on.

    The woman in the video is aware of race but still sides with Wokeness and believes in lying.

    That is a pretty common peace corp experience for liberal White women. They realize that race is real but still sleep with a few locals. They either renounce liberalism or take the position that society should lie and then they marry a White man. It's similar to the Mormon outreach. They do their year of service and then go back to the burbs to start a White family. The difference is that most liberals come back knowing that their religion is a lie. They think White men will all become Nazis if the White women of the world don't maintain a false religion that says race is just painty color. But behind the scenes they don't believe it and want their kids to have genes for the honor role.

    Replies: @songbird

  225. @Beckow
    @AP


    Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas
     
    And maybe they take more, there are a lot of rural areas in Ukraine that are effectively not defensible at this point. It is really up to how far Russia wants to go. Cities are traps - with no power, water, supplies they can hold out (at huge suffering) for only so long. It has been like that throughout the history. Only Russia's concern for humanity can constrain it. The Frenchie army is not marching in to save anyone.

    At some point even the most fanatical resistance runs out of steam (or live bodies and ammunition). Large parts of Ukraine - maybe majority now - are not pro-Kiev or pro-Russia, they just want the war to be over. See the videos of the Ukie men chased by the draft goons - it is very sad, but it doesn't look like the Ukies want to fight and die anymore. No matter how much Johnson and 'kill all Russians!' maniac Graham want it.

    It will be not be as stalemate. Either a small loss for Kiev-Nato or a bigger one. It was built into the situation from the beginning, you just refused to see it.


    I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough

    I know you don’t. It’s the kind of person you are.
     

    You don't know me, I am usually a pacifist: live and let live. But mistakes have consequences in human evolution: Nato-in-Ukraine was a catastrophic mistake, a very bad idea. That's why you now deny it - it is embarrassing to be that stupid. It takes some time to cure people of bad ideas and some don't make it through the cure.

    It wasn't my preference, I wanted for Ukraine to have peace and normal relations with all neighbors. They chose differently, it has to have consequences, the world is like that.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    Nato-in-Ukraine was a catastrophic mistake, a very bad idea. That’s why you now deny it – it is embarrassing to be that stupid.

    Ukraine was not in NATO nor were they in the process of applying.

    Would you describe the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a good idea?

    Did NATO expand further East before or after the invasion?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Ukraine was not in NATO nor were they in the process of applying.
     
    We went over this: the war is about the Nato's expansion to Ukraine. You lie desperately, but nobody with a triple-digit IQ takes you seriously. Or you are really that stupid.

    Would you describe the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a good idea?
     
    The war has stopped the inevitable Nato-in-Ukraine threat that they deemed to be worse. It is up to them to judge it, ask them if it is worth it. US would act the same, and did many times based on more limited or even made-up threats.

    You are losing the war. Calm down, enjoy your Walmart, and stop lying to yourself.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  226. @songbird
    Women who volunteer to go to Africa should perhaps be sent to antiwokeness camps instead:

    https://youtu.be/tLNtD67lnUY?si=KD92tFyhzIvno5RZ

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Women who volunteer to go to Africa should perhaps be sent to antiwokeness camps instead:

    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to. Most White liberals have been around Northern mulattoes and not actual Bantu.

    Heck a 2 week internship in Baltimore is all it takes.

    Most realize that liberalism is a lie and move on.

    The woman in the video is aware of race but still sides with Wokeness and believes in lying.

    That is a pretty common peace corp experience for liberal White women. They realize that race is real but still sleep with a few locals. They either renounce liberalism or take the position that society should lie and then they marry a White man. It’s similar to the Mormon outreach. They do their year of service and then go back to the burbs to start a White family. The difference is that most liberals come back knowing that their religion is a lie. They think White men will all become Nazis if the White women of the world don’t maintain a false religion that says race is just painty color. But behind the scenes they don’t believe it and want their kids to have genes for the honor role.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @John Johnson


    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to.
     
    I don't know if it works. A lot of them are looking for social media clout and to get ahead.

    Maher was in Ethiopia with UNICEF . Probably other places too.

    If the women in the video actually slept with locals, she probably has HIV.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  227. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Nato-in-Ukraine was a catastrophic mistake, a very bad idea. That’s why you now deny it – it is embarrassing to be that stupid.

    Ukraine was not in NATO nor were they in the process of applying.

    Would you describe the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a good idea?

    Did NATO expand further East before or after the invasion?

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Ukraine was not in NATO nor were they in the process of applying.

    We went over this: the war is about the Nato’s expansion to Ukraine. You lie desperately, but nobody with a triple-digit IQ takes you seriously. Or you are really that stupid.

    Would you describe the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a good idea?

    The war has stopped the inevitable Nato-in-Ukraine threat that they deemed to be worse. It is up to them to judge it, ask them if it is worth it. US would act the same, and did many times based on more limited or even made-up threats.

    You are losing the war. Calm down, enjoy your Walmart, and stop lying to yourself.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    We went over this: the war is about the Nato’s expansion to Ukraine. You lie desperately, but nobody with a triple-digit IQ takes you seriously. Or you are really that stupid.

    What is the lie? Did Ukraine qualify for NATO with a contended border? Were they in the process of applying?

    Putin said the war is about stopping the Eastward expansion of NATO and that has failed by the addition of Finland.

    I don't believe that the war was primarily about NATO but that is what Putin claimed and I will hold him to his word and not the conveniently updated goals his forum defense force.

    Note that Prigozhin also did not believe the war was about NATO or Neo-Nazis. He said it was about egos and I agree. I believe this is another Tsar trying to expand the empire and turn Ukraine into Russia. Former DPR leader Igor Girkin is on record stating that the DPR movement was a Russian operation. Putin's own former allies have called him a liar but you think he is still worth defending. Kind of like Trump defenders. Hint: Not a good sign when your former allies turn against you.

    The war has stopped the inevitable Nato-in-Ukraine threat that they deemed to be worse.

    How would Ukraine in NATO be inevitable if they weren't able to apply with a contended border? Wouldn't it make more sense to keep the border contended and only resort to war once they had gotten passed the application process? You do acknowledge that prior to 2021 both France and Germany were opposed to the admission of Ukraine?

    You are losing the war. Calm down, enjoy your Walmart, and stop lying to yourself.

    I do enjoy Walmart and Putin cannot win with Finland in NATO. It would prevent his clearly stated goal of stopping the Eastward expansion with NATO. The best he can hope for is an armistice with defined borders over DPR/LPR which ironically would put Ukraine closer to qualifying.

    I enjoy my life just fine. You are better off worrying about Russians in trenches that don't have food or water.

  228. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    How can Russia take any promise of “no Nato in Ukraine?” seriously after Finland?

    How can Finland take Russian promises of "we don't want war, it's just a training exercise" seriously after invading Ukraine?

    This is like attacking your neighbor and then getting upset when the other one puts up cameras and fences.

    How dare you prepare for the exact scenario that I said wouldn't happen before I did it.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    It is a chicken-and-egg: an action leads to a reaction. Since we are in an all-out war it is irrelevant. What matters is that Russia can use Finland’s betrayal of its neutrality – gift from Russia after WW2 – to refuse similar promise with Ukraine.

    Russia has placed short-distance nukes on the Finnish border, they can vaporize Helsinki in 5 minutes. Finnish territory is now a primary target and their safety is gone. Maybe it doesn’t matter, but how are Finns better off? Only a complete raving maniac could claim that Russia was planning to march into Finland or Sweden. They exchanged peace and tranquility for being on the front-line in a nuclear exchange. If anything happens they will be the first to go. Maybe a good thing, but still, why?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Russia has placed short-distance nukes on the Finnish border, they can vaporize Helsinki in 5 minutes.

    Do explain the advantage of short-distance nukes on either side when submarines on both sides will destroy the world in any nuclear exchange. A single trident sub can take out most of the Russian population.

    Maybe it doesn’t matter, but how are Finns better off?

    They don't have to worry about an angry dwarf invading them. Ukraine was the example of what can happen if you aren't in NATO and border Russia.

    On Russian State TV they openly talk of the Baltics belonging to them. Are we to believe that Putin would not have invaded them if they did not have NATO protection? Putin spoke of the USSR as an extension of Russian Imperialism. Why would they not invade the Baltics if they believe that they should be under Russian rule? In street interviews the Russian people get angry when the subject of the Baltics come up as if they are lost territory. Very similar to German views of Poland in the 1920s and 30s.

    Only a complete raving maniac could claim that Russia was planning to march into Finland or Sweden.

    Finland would be quite easy to take when compared to Ukraine. They have a tiny population that is mostly accessible by port.

    Of course Finland is better off in NATO. Why take a 1/100 chance of Putin deciding that Finland is part of historical Russia?

    If Ukraine had listened to NATO they would be in a much better position today. NATO countries warned Zelensky of an impending attack through Belarus and he expected Putin to negotiate first. If they had setup even two howitzers the attack from the North would have been smashed. It came through a single bridge and the surrounding area is swampland. NATO expertise was proven as valuable while the angry dwarf had lied the entire time about it being a training exercise. Scott Ritter is on video swearing that Russia won't attack because they don't do such things. He said that anyone who believes Russia will attack doesn't understand them. That was from Scott Ritter, convicted sex criminal and Russian military expert.

    Putin swore that he wouldn't invade Ukraine. Do you remember that? Where he had Lavrov scream at the UN for making such wild allegations?

    But an invasion of Finland would be a genuine wild allegation, right? That is what you are saying?

    Replies: @Beckow

  229. Sher Singh says:
    @Sher Singh
    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/640459736919048202/1232385022267494410/image.png?ex=6629437d&is=6627f1fd&hm=ae681489f55defd902f48b71fa1164620c843de00a19213d5fe22acc39719ead&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/640459736919048202/1232385022498177145/image.png?ex=6629437d&is=6627f1fd&hm=86c76d5905a24c8977e98128632f706fe4f477e415b6aca148d11151f3b12532&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    Thoughts?

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    Jews abhor horses & Jesus rode a donkey.
    Arabs used to be taken by Ethiopian slavers.

    How the fuck did people convert to this?
    It’s the most AnAryan stuff possible.

    BRO IMAGINE A NOBILITY WHICH REJECTS HORSES AND WEAPONS

    LMFAO

    I seriously can’t consider people without an equestrian tradition to be human.

    They’re slaves

    [MORE]

    https://johntsquires.com/2023/03/27/why-jesus-never-did-and-never-would-ride-a-horse-for-palm-sunday-lent-6/

    https://teachingforsotzambia.com/2019/06/26/why-did-israel-not-use-horses/

    Forbids harems, hunting & horses.

    🤮🤮🤮☠️

    There are guidelines for men: they may not ride an animal bareback—they are required to use a saddle.

    LOL

    https://halacha2go.com/php/h2go/home2.php?number=635

    Literal Sullah can’t stand to pee tier.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Sher Singh

    Am too lazy to look it up, but I thought Tolkien said he admired Jews and based Dwarves on them because he appreciated their war-like nature.

    Anyway, isn't it always the US (one of the most warlike countries) trying to hold Israel back?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Sher Singh

  230. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Ukraine was not in NATO nor were they in the process of applying.
     
    We went over this: the war is about the Nato's expansion to Ukraine. You lie desperately, but nobody with a triple-digit IQ takes you seriously. Or you are really that stupid.

    Would you describe the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a good idea?
     
    The war has stopped the inevitable Nato-in-Ukraine threat that they deemed to be worse. It is up to them to judge it, ask them if it is worth it. US would act the same, and did many times based on more limited or even made-up threats.

    You are losing the war. Calm down, enjoy your Walmart, and stop lying to yourself.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    We went over this: the war is about the Nato’s expansion to Ukraine. You lie desperately, but nobody with a triple-digit IQ takes you seriously. Or you are really that stupid.

    What is the lie? Did Ukraine qualify for NATO with a contended border? Were they in the process of applying?

    Putin said the war is about stopping the Eastward expansion of NATO and that has failed by the addition of Finland.

    I don’t believe that the war was primarily about NATO but that is what Putin claimed and I will hold him to his word and not the conveniently updated goals his forum defense force.

    Note that Prigozhin also did not believe the war was about NATO or Neo-Nazis. He said it was about egos and I agree. I believe this is another Tsar trying to expand the empire and turn Ukraine into Russia. Former DPR leader Igor Girkin is on record stating that the DPR movement was a Russian operation. Putin’s own former allies have called him a liar but you think he is still worth defending. Kind of like Trump defenders. Hint: Not a good sign when your former allies turn against you.

    The war has stopped the inevitable Nato-in-Ukraine threat that they deemed to be worse.

    How would Ukraine in NATO be inevitable if they weren’t able to apply with a contended border? Wouldn’t it make more sense to keep the border contended and only resort to war once they had gotten passed the application process? You do acknowledge that prior to 2021 both France and Germany were opposed to the admission of Ukraine?

    You are losing the war. Calm down, enjoy your Walmart, and stop lying to yourself.

    I do enjoy Walmart and Putin cannot win with Finland in NATO. It would prevent his clearly stated goal of stopping the Eastward expansion with NATO. The best he can hope for is an armistice with defined borders over DPR/LPR which ironically would put Ukraine closer to qualifying.

    I enjoy my life just fine. You are better off worrying about Russians in trenches that don’t have food or water.

  231. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    It is a chicken-and-egg: an action leads to a reaction. Since we are in an all-out war it is irrelevant. What matters is that Russia can use Finland's betrayal of its neutrality - gift from Russia after WW2 - to refuse similar promise with Ukraine.

    Russia has placed short-distance nukes on the Finnish border, they can vaporize Helsinki in 5 minutes. Finnish territory is now a primary target and their safety is gone. Maybe it doesn't matter, but how are Finns better off? Only a complete raving maniac could claim that Russia was planning to march into Finland or Sweden. They exchanged peace and tranquility for being on the front-line in a nuclear exchange. If anything happens they will be the first to go. Maybe a good thing, but still, why?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Russia has placed short-distance nukes on the Finnish border, they can vaporize Helsinki in 5 minutes.

    Do explain the advantage of short-distance nukes on either side when submarines on both sides will destroy the world in any nuclear exchange. A single trident sub can take out most of the Russian population.

    Maybe it doesn’t matter, but how are Finns better off?

    They don’t have to worry about an angry dwarf invading them. Ukraine was the example of what can happen if you aren’t in NATO and border Russia.

    On Russian State TV they openly talk of the Baltics belonging to them. Are we to believe that Putin would not have invaded them if they did not have NATO protection? Putin spoke of the USSR as an extension of Russian Imperialism. Why would they not invade the Baltics if they believe that they should be under Russian rule? In street interviews the Russian people get angry when the subject of the Baltics come up as if they are lost territory. Very similar to German views of Poland in the 1920s and 30s.

    Only a complete raving maniac could claim that Russia was planning to march into Finland or Sweden.

    Finland would be quite easy to take when compared to Ukraine. They have a tiny population that is mostly accessible by port.

    Of course Finland is better off in NATO. Why take a 1/100 chance of Putin deciding that Finland is part of historical Russia?

    If Ukraine had listened to NATO they would be in a much better position today. NATO countries warned Zelensky of an impending attack through Belarus and he expected Putin to negotiate first. If they had setup even two howitzers the attack from the North would have been smashed. It came through a single bridge and the surrounding area is swampland. NATO expertise was proven as valuable while the angry dwarf had lied the entire time about it being a training exercise. Scott Ritter is on video swearing that Russia won’t attack because they don’t do such things. He said that anyone who believes Russia will attack doesn’t understand them. That was from Scott Ritter, convicted sex criminal and Russian military expert.

    Putin swore that he wouldn’t invade Ukraine. Do you remember that? Where he had Lavrov scream at the UN for making such wild allegations?

    But an invasion of Finland would be a genuine wild allegation, right? That is what you are saying?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Only a complete raving maniac could claim that Russia was planning to march into Finland or Sweden.

    Finland would be quite easy to take when compared to Ukraine.
     

    We have found the raving maniac and it is you. Good, the Finns are safe, if the nukes start it is better to be in the early phase. It is possible that will be the only phase and Vienna, Budapest, Zurich will be spared, but why not volunteer to be vaporized? Finns have lived up to their reputation as the world's suicide champions...

    If the odds are 1 to 100 that Russia would march into Finland (I think more like 1 to 10k, but whatever) and the odds of a nuclear war between Nato and Russia are today 1 to 10, any rational person would know what to do. But the Scandies are not very rational, they are just very obedient and conformist and people mistake that for smarts. They were rolled by the Anglo hustlers and not for the first time.

    Finns can now go and visit their long border with Russia to take pictures of the missiles pointing at them. In 5 minutes it could be all over, comforting. If the Finns-Nato put in their own missiles maybe the fireworks will start earlier. It is a d..k measuring exercise, nobody wins that.

    Your other stuff is just incoherent nonsense that doesn't address what others said - you may very well actually be a bot. I still think you are more likely a very ordinary 'merican with no knowledge of the region and some ethnic ties. And the usual 'merican militant narcissism: "we can and they can't!"

  232. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    Women who volunteer to go to Africa should perhaps be sent to antiwokeness camps instead:

    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to. Most White liberals have been around Northern mulattoes and not actual Bantu.

    Heck a 2 week internship in Baltimore is all it takes.

    Most realize that liberalism is a lie and move on.

    The woman in the video is aware of race but still sides with Wokeness and believes in lying.

    That is a pretty common peace corp experience for liberal White women. They realize that race is real but still sleep with a few locals. They either renounce liberalism or take the position that society should lie and then they marry a White man. It's similar to the Mormon outreach. They do their year of service and then go back to the burbs to start a White family. The difference is that most liberals come back knowing that their religion is a lie. They think White men will all become Nazis if the White women of the world don't maintain a false religion that says race is just painty color. But behind the scenes they don't believe it and want their kids to have genes for the honor role.

    Replies: @songbird

    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to.

    I don’t know if it works. A lot of them are looking for social media clout and to get ahead.

    Maher was in Ethiopia with UNICEF . Probably other places too.

    If the women in the video actually slept with locals, she probably has HIV.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @songbird


    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to.
     
    I don’t know if it works. A lot of them are looking for social media clout and to get ahead.

    Oh it completely works. The ones on social media are basically modern televangelists.

    Most drop the religion but a minority goes from the True Believer camp to the Deceivers. They become racial realist liberals. They accept race and believe that lying and blaming Whites is the only solution.

    Maher was in Ethiopia with UNICEF . Probably other places too.

    Maher is a racial realist. So are most liberals on television. They know.

    If the women in the video actually slept with locals, she probably has HIV.

    It's actually difficult to get HIV from vaginal sex. I guarantee that she slept with at least two of them. Women that visit the third world are tempted by casual sex that doesn't go on their record. Meaning it won't trace back to them. The third world can also be pretty boring. Whites project their own personalities and assume third worlders are just like them but with less stuff. The noble native.

    HIV numbers in Africa were exaggerated and that was confirmed by the WHO. We also don't know how much of it is spread by anal sex or their strange "dry sex" phenomenon. No one in the West is going to study this honestly for obvious reasons.

    Replies: @songbird

  233. @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Without having seen this Polanski film, it does sound to be very similar to a film called "Dead Calm" starring the guy from Jurassic Park and Nicole Kidman.

    An English-language remake of it?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    An English-language remake of it?

    What’s the matter, don’t your pan-slavic skills extend to understanding the Polish language? The film certainly can be found with English subtitles. Probably with Russian ones too. I’m glad that I know Ukrainian and don’t have any difficulties with understanding either Polish or Russian.

    I’ve never seen “Dead Calm” but since you think that it’s interesting, I’ll give it a whirl sometime. How’s the preparation going for your dacha garden this year?

  234. @Sher Singh
    @Sher Singh

    Jews abhor horses & Jesus rode a donkey.
    Arabs used to be taken by Ethiopian slavers.

    How the fuck did people convert to this?
    It's the most AnAryan stuff possible.

    BRO IMAGINE A NOBILITY WHICH REJECTS HORSES AND WEAPONS

    LMFAO

    I seriously can't consider people without an equestrian tradition to be human.

    They're slaves


    https://johntsquires.com/2023/03/27/why-jesus-never-did-and-never-would-ride-a-horse-for-palm-sunday-lent-6/

    https://teachingforsotzambia.com/2019/06/26/why-did-israel-not-use-horses/

    Forbids harems, hunting & horses.

    🤮🤮🤮☠️


    There are guidelines for men: they may not ride an animal bareback—they are required to use a saddle.

    LOL

    https://halacha2go.com/php/h2go/home2.php?number=635

    Literal Sullah can't stand to pee tier.

    Replies: @songbird

    Am too lazy to look it up, but I thought Tolkien said he admired Jews and based Dwarves on them because he appreciated their war-like nature.

    Anyway, isn’t it always the US (one of the most warlike countries) trying to hold Israel back?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    Anyway, isn’t it always the US (one of the most warlike countries) trying to hold Israel back?
     
    You mean a recent aid package to Israel is meant to hold it back, rather than help continue its crimes against humanity? Seems counter-intuitive. How exactly is this supposed to work?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    , @Sher Singh
    @songbird

    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/777361459130138627/1233716753503096953/IMG_20240427_031015.png?ex=662e1bc3&is=662cca43&hm=bcec575b0862d7dac42997564469e07fc9a0171ef4a4a65e9d1c29838a056db1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=507&height=676

    Surprised how much small details matter.
    If u tie paracord & stop that bit at the end from dangling free the handling changes massively.

    With the free hang the momentum from one strike carries over to the next.
    It almost flies out of your hands without gloves.


    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/777361459130138627/1233716751766913055/e4e21239-7e82-465f-9ad6-088fde2a7a4e.png?ex=662e1bc2&is=662cca42&hm=936fae1dc5cc830a9c5b0746aea5c3f158a1541244253fc93a085fe882b4cf2d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=507&height=676

    Locked down like this & it's almost a boring feeling blade similar to my old Talwar.

    Look brhe, Jesus rode a donkey.

    Being war-like in a soldierly fashion ain't the same as having a harem.

    Monogamy is almost sexist because by destroying harems & clans the only female institution left is the brothel.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  235. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Get your head out of the sand...maybe google NY Times archives and read what everyone said about it at that time: Kiev gives up access to the Soviet nukes on its territory and pledges neutrality.

    It was a memorandum, an MOU. Do you know what a memorandum is? It outlines in a non-binding form what each side promises to do. Russia and the West took it as 'nukes for neutrality'. If you planned to trick them and parse the words it was the wrong format.

    Memorandums are non-binding, they are about trust. If Kiev-Nato deceived the other side, they broke that trust and there is no Memorandum. That's the way MOUs work in business and diplomacy...it is not a 'contract' or a 'treaty'. If you are too unsophisticated to know this you are better off hiding it...:)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    maybe google NY Times archives and read what everyone said about it at that time: Kiev gives up access to the Soviet nukes on its territory and pledges neutrality.

    I’m not interested in what you or some other journalist felt about the Memorandum when it first came out. I only asked you to point out where exactly within the document one can find anything about Ukraine remaining neutral, or its exclusion from any NATO involvement. If you can’t answer these simple questions, I’m left to believe that these topics were never included within the document.

    • Troll: Derer
  236. @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    ...West’s delusions of grandeur and faith in their own propaganda about “Russian weakness”etc., have created this situation.
     
    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda. They are possibly not very smart or live busy lives with all that cubicle work calling each other to sell stuff. No time to think. The physical stuff again beat self-aggrandizement.

    clearly worded in detail with UN approval...
     
    We are beyond words, they are now to only describe what is happening. UN is irrelevant - you can't have Washington call Palau or 100 other minor dependencies and take that seriously. Security Council will stay but be mostly blocked. The rest of UN is effectively dead: pricey NY party circuit.

    Let's see, what third-rate vassals will be chosen this year for a guest appearance on the Security Council? Will it be Albania or Malta? The suspense is unbearable, who will it be this year...almost as suspenseful as what Ukies-are-suffering and Russia is bad! documentary will get the Oscar.

    Those institutions are all brain-dead, Macron got that right but forgot to mention that they died from the self-inflicted Western narcissism, special people who insists on making the rules but don't follow them. Time to move on.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Emil Nikola Richard, @S1

    KFOR in Kosovo leads to why not CSTO in the former Ukrainian SSR at some point? The Yugo 1999 action is a neocon confirmation of might making right. There will be some form of Russian victory on Russian terms with an agreement which Russia will feel secure enough.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    ...There will be some form of Russian victory on Russian terms with an agreement which Russia will feel secure enough.
     
    It looks like that. The only unknown is what the hysterical Westie neo-cons whose red lines have been crossed will do to delay it. They can buy time with more dead Ukies. Maybe even others, my guess would be Poles or Romanians, there are too few Balts to matter.

    The agreement will be a description of the reality is on the ground, not vice versa. We are back to pre-agreement days. Those were more fun anyway...:)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  237. @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    ...West’s delusions of grandeur and faith in their own propaganda about “Russian weakness”etc., have created this situation.
     
    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda. They are possibly not very smart or live busy lives with all that cubicle work calling each other to sell stuff. No time to think. The physical stuff again beat self-aggrandizement.

    clearly worded in detail with UN approval...
     
    We are beyond words, they are now to only describe what is happening. UN is irrelevant - you can't have Washington call Palau or 100 other minor dependencies and take that seriously. Security Council will stay but be mostly blocked. The rest of UN is effectively dead: pricey NY party circuit.

    Let's see, what third-rate vassals will be chosen this year for a guest appearance on the Security Council? Will it be Albania or Malta? The suspense is unbearable, who will it be this year...almost as suspenseful as what Ukies-are-suffering and Russia is bad! documentary will get the Oscar.

    Those institutions are all brain-dead, Macron got that right but forgot to mention that they died from the self-inflicted Western narcissism, special people who insists on making the rules but don't follow them. Time to move on.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Emil Nikola Richard, @S1

    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda.

    Boiling the frog.

    Scott Alexander and Zvi Mowshowitz have written at tedious length how the rule book has been totally re-written and only the obsessed or savvy can keep up. See here:

    https://thezvi.substack.com/p/on-bounded-distrust

    He thinks anthropogenic global warming and Ivermectin ineffectiveness at covid are proven factual. Even some obsessed savvy thinkers are hosed. Ron Unz believes Jeffrey Sachs.

  238. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    Is paying somebody a compliment your idea of trolling somebody? You really are a screwed up little kremlin stooge. Are you a recent graduate of kremlin troll school? Just out of curiosity, how much are you being paid to monitor this website?

    Replies: @Derer

    …how much are you being paid to monitor this website?

    You lost your marbles…I do it for free. BTW, I just managed to obtain your IP, expect the unexpected knock on your doors.

    • Troll: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    If you show up at my door, I hope that you're wearing a hard hat. I HAVE A SPECIAL HARD STICK THAT I USE ON INTRUDERS LIKE YOU.

    Replies: @Derer

    , @Derer
    @Derer

    I heard that you are usually sitting on the porch and shooting everything that moves. Using a stick? My goodness you are like Ukrainian army.

  239. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Keep carrying on like a svidomite troll along with your racist outbursts. Russian soldiers are far better equipped and trained than those of the Kiev regime.

    So you have no comparable video showing similar conditions for Ukrainians. Got it.

    Did you see this in the news?

    American goes to fight for Russian values, gets killed and buttraped by Russian soldiers
    https://nypost.com/2024/04/20/world-news/pro-kremlin-texan-russell-bentley-found-dead-in-ukraine/

    Here he is showing an award for softest ass they could find in combat:
    https://ukranews.com/upload/media/2024/04/20/6623862e8a965-file-17fd6f988cb425163219d05c2dae1c25.jpg.webp

    He was at one time a pot advocate and Communist:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russell-texas-bentley-putin-propaganda-ukraine-interview-1315433/

    Oh and born into a wealthy family which is common for our confused radical leftists.

    Boy Putin really attracts some quality Americans.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Matra, @QCIC

    Not like your favorite girly man:

    Plenty of footage showing Kiev regime personnel in dire conditions. What you provide as proof for Russia is UK mass media BS like the ones saying Russians have to fight with shovels and need computer chips from washing machines.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Plenty of footage showing Kiev regime personnel in dire conditions.

    Ok go ahead and show the equivalent of Ukrainians not having food or water. Let's see it.

    What you provide as proof for Russia is UK mass media BS like the ones saying Russians have to fight with shovels and need computer chips from washing machines.

    All the videos I have provided in relation to the conditions of the training facilities and trenches were cell phone videos taken from Russians. Most were originally posted to telegram by conscripts.

    Are you stating that the reports of Russians stripping chips from appliances are false?

    Why would that be hard to believe given the Russian dependence on Western computer chips? Anger management dwarf didn't check his import dependencies:

    Russian business hit hard by tech sanctions
    https://www.ft.com/content/caf2cd3c-1f42-4e4a-b24b-c0ed803a6245

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikhail

  240. @songbird
    @John Johnson


    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to.
     
    I don't know if it works. A lot of them are looking for social media clout and to get ahead.

    Maher was in Ethiopia with UNICEF . Probably other places too.

    If the women in the video actually slept with locals, she probably has HIV.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to.

    I don’t know if it works. A lot of them are looking for social media clout and to get ahead.

    Oh it completely works. The ones on social media are basically modern televangelists.

    Most drop the religion but a minority goes from the True Believer camp to the Deceivers. They become racial realist liberals. They accept race and believe that lying and blaming Whites is the only solution.

    Maher was in Ethiopia with UNICEF . Probably other places too.

    Maher is a racial realist. So are most liberals on television. They know.

    If the women in the video actually slept with locals, she probably has HIV.

    It’s actually difficult to get HIV from vaginal sex. I guarantee that she slept with at least two of them. Women that visit the third world are tempted by casual sex that doesn’t go on their record. Meaning it won’t trace back to them. The third world can also be pretty boring. Whites project their own personalities and assume third worlders are just like them but with less stuff. The noble native.

    HIV numbers in Africa were exaggerated and that was confirmed by the WHO. We also don’t know how much of it is spread by anal sex or their strange “dry sex” phenomenon. No one in the West is going to study this honestly for obvious reasons.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @John Johnson


    It’s actually difficult to get HIV from vaginal sex
     
    Probably true, I don't want to get too graphic, but seems like there are a fair amount of cases of transmission to woke women. For example, this case:
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/antifa-pedophile-locked-up-in-russia/

    Believe there was a case of some African in Poland too.
  241. @songbird
    @Sher Singh

    Am too lazy to look it up, but I thought Tolkien said he admired Jews and based Dwarves on them because he appreciated their war-like nature.

    Anyway, isn't it always the US (one of the most warlike countries) trying to hold Israel back?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Sher Singh

    Anyway, isn’t it always the US (one of the most warlike countries) trying to hold Israel back?

    You mean a recent aid package to Israel is meant to hold it back, rather than help continue its crimes against humanity? Seems counter-intuitive. How exactly is this supposed to work?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    I forget the publication. Maybe Israel Times. They said the deal is the Gaza op can continue full speed but Israel has to hold back from destroying Iran. It's like The Matrix was a documentary.

    , @songbird
    @AnonfromTN


    How exactly is this supposed to work?
     
    The US is very subservient these days. I don't know if it does work.

    Though I was specifically referring to Iran - and some believe the US downgraded the Israeli response. But their options were pretty limited anyway, they can hardly invade Iran on their own. Am sure they would love the US to do it, but can't bring it about.

    If they did drop a nuke, I think it would lead to the end of all international support, and they know it. Escalating conventional missile responses would just lead to escalating retribution by Iran.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  242. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Not like your favorite girly man:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4sRLMFb-w

    Plenty of footage showing Kiev regime personnel in dire conditions. What you provide as proof for Russia is UK mass media BS like the ones saying Russians have to fight with shovels and need computer chips from washing machines.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Plenty of footage showing Kiev regime personnel in dire conditions.

    Ok go ahead and show the equivalent of Ukrainians not having food or water. Let’s see it.

    What you provide as proof for Russia is UK mass media BS like the ones saying Russians have to fight with shovels and need computer chips from washing machines.

    All the videos I have provided in relation to the conditions of the training facilities and trenches were cell phone videos taken from Russians. Most were originally posted to telegram by conscripts.

    Are you stating that the reports of Russians stripping chips from appliances are false?

    Why would that be hard to believe given the Russian dependence on Western computer chips? Anger management dwarf didn’t check his import dependencies:

    Russian business hit hard by tech sanctions
    https://www.ft.com/content/caf2cd3c-1f42-4e4a-b24b-c0ed803a6245

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Thanks, John!

    Also, this is a very off-topic question, but I figure that I might as well ask it:

    Anatoly Karlin has been talking about a future biosingularity due to IVF combined with embryo selection for desirable traits/genes, and also due to IVG (in-vitro gametogenesis) making synthetic sperm and synthetic eggs very easy to produce for humans on a mass scale in the future. In turn, this got me wondering: What would the ideal child support policy be from a eugenic perspective in order to accelerate the future biosingularity?

    It strikes me like giving unwilling parents a unilateral opt-out from paying child support in exchange for them getting sterilized (they could still reproduce eugenically with the help of IVG later on) and/or getting Vasalgel injections strikes me as a good idea. Honestly, forcing people to pay child support for genetically inferior children who are conceived through sexual intercourse strikes me as a bad idea if it will prevent them from producing (or at least producing as many) genetically superior children through IVF, IVG, and embryo selection for desirable traits/genes. We do want to make our fertility patterns as eugenic as possible in order to accelerate the future biosingularity, after all.

    As a side note, I wonder if the current child support laws are actually eugenic or dysgenic right now. Do you have any thoughts on this?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    You haven't proven anything with the facts on the ground in Russia's clear favor. Why hasn't the superior West produced a hyper sonic missile? Probably relates to the rampant corruption.

    The US outspends the next seven leading nations in defense spending combined. Five of the ten leading defense spenders are NATO members. The US outspends Russia and China combined by a three to one margin.

    Yet Russia produces artillery shells and tanks at a much better rate than what the collective West can give to the corrupt, lying, undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced Kiev regime, which has blood on its hands before and after 2/24/22.

  243. @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    Anyway, isn’t it always the US (one of the most warlike countries) trying to hold Israel back?
     
    You mean a recent aid package to Israel is meant to hold it back, rather than help continue its crimes against humanity? Seems counter-intuitive. How exactly is this supposed to work?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    I forget the publication. Maybe Israel Times. They said the deal is the Gaza op can continue full speed but Israel has to hold back from destroying Iran. It’s like The Matrix was a documentary.

  244. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    How can Russia take any promise of “no Nato in Ukraine?” seriously after Finland?

    How can Finland take Russian promises of "we don't want war, it's just a training exercise" seriously after invading Ukraine?

    This is like attacking your neighbor and then getting upset when the other one puts up cameras and fences.

    How dare you prepare for the exact scenario that I said wouldn't happen before I did it.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    Johnny, You should know that NATO in Finland is actually more detrimental to Finland than Russia. Joining sinking ship instead of neutrality is really stupid for Finland. In NATO, everything is done under duress and the duress-or resides in Washington.

    The cohesion is fragile actually even arms calibration is different among members and the bickering is increasing by the day because of the money and purpose. The end is near, actually the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the moment.

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Disagree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Johnny, You should know that NATO in Finland is actually more detrimental to Finland than Russia. Joining sinking ship instead of neutrality is really stupid for Finland. In NATO, everything is done under duress and the duress-or resides in Washington.

    NATO is a sinking ship? What do you base that assessment on? Do sinking organizations expand or retract?

    The cohesion is fragile actually even arms calibration is different among members and the bickering is increasing by the day because of the money and purpose. The end is near, actually the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the moment.

    Wishful thinking is a weakness in men.

    NATO is stronger than ever and I'm not a fan of the military industrial complex. I'd much rather see cuts to the US military budget in favor of populist spending and balancing the budget. But that is out for the next 5-10 years. This war is a bonanza for MIC profiteers. Putin has made a lot of military contractors very wealthy.

    The way to get rid of NATO would have been for Russia to have closer ties to the West and make it appear as an unneeded expense.

    The exact opposite has happened. Putin has made it clear that Russian Imperialism is not a thing of the past and small countries like Finland are better off in NATO than finding out if the anger management dwarf decides that "historical Russia" just happens to include them.

    NATO was actually split on Ukraine before the war. France and Germany were both opposed to Ukraine in NATO.

    France's policy on Ukraine changes
    https://warontherocks.com/2023/08/frances-policy-shift-on-ukraines-nato-membership/

    Turkey has traditionally sided with Russia and they were also expected to block a Ukraine bid if they were someday able to qualify. That is also no longer the case as Turkey is now viewed as a reliable member and not a Russian ally.

    The dwarf is terrible at geopolitics. He doesn't get that it's easier to win friends with trade than guns. Both Georgia and Moldova hate Russia while the people of Belarus would vote out their Putin puppet if given the chance. Chechnya is held up by a mafia midget that was installed by Putin. The Syrians would also vote out the Russians if they had the choice. A lot of countries simply hate Russia and Putin isn't helping by making new enemies.

    Russia does not have the economic power of the US or even close. When this war is over their GDP will be closer to Mexico. They don't have the economic leverage that Putin's fans like to imagine. Putin should have built up their economy instead of playing war.

    Replies: @Derer

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Derer


    the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the lunder moment.
     
    Pure bunk. Where are the Warsaw pact nations today? In the dustbin of history, whereas MATO, thanks to Russia's big blunder in attacking Ukraine, has become revitalized. This is clear to see, and needs no long explanations to make it any clearer.
  245. @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    Anyway, isn’t it always the US (one of the most warlike countries) trying to hold Israel back?
     
    You mean a recent aid package to Israel is meant to hold it back, rather than help continue its crimes against humanity? Seems counter-intuitive. How exactly is this supposed to work?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    How exactly is this supposed to work?

    The US is very subservient these days. I don’t know if it does work.

    Though I was specifically referring to Iran – and some believe the US downgraded the Israeli response. But their options were pretty limited anyway, they can hardly invade Iran on their own. Am sure they would love the US to do it, but can’t bring it about.

    If they did drop a nuke, I think it would lead to the end of all international support, and they know it. Escalating conventional missile responses would just lead to escalating retribution by Iran.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    If they did drop a nuke, I think it would lead to the end of all international support
     
    I don’t think anything would end the US support.

    Just a few days ago 12 security council members voted to grant Palestine UN membership, with the sole vote opposing: the US. Even the most obsequious US lapdog the UK abstained:
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148731

    If you think that there is any Israeli action the US won’t support, even though the rest of the world is against it (or ashamed to acknowledge that it isn’t), think again.

    Replies: @songbird

  246. @John Johnson
    @songbird


    Africa is best anti-wokeness camp they can go to.
     
    I don’t know if it works. A lot of them are looking for social media clout and to get ahead.

    Oh it completely works. The ones on social media are basically modern televangelists.

    Most drop the religion but a minority goes from the True Believer camp to the Deceivers. They become racial realist liberals. They accept race and believe that lying and blaming Whites is the only solution.

    Maher was in Ethiopia with UNICEF . Probably other places too.

    Maher is a racial realist. So are most liberals on television. They know.

    If the women in the video actually slept with locals, she probably has HIV.

    It's actually difficult to get HIV from vaginal sex. I guarantee that she slept with at least two of them. Women that visit the third world are tempted by casual sex that doesn't go on their record. Meaning it won't trace back to them. The third world can also be pretty boring. Whites project their own personalities and assume third worlders are just like them but with less stuff. The noble native.

    HIV numbers in Africa were exaggerated and that was confirmed by the WHO. We also don't know how much of it is spread by anal sex or their strange "dry sex" phenomenon. No one in the West is going to study this honestly for obvious reasons.

    Replies: @songbird

    [MORE]

    It’s actually difficult to get HIV from vaginal sex

    Probably true, I don’t want to get too graphic, but seems like there are a fair amount of cases of transmission to woke women. For example, this case:
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/antifa-pedophile-locked-up-in-russia/

    Believe there was a case of some African in Poland too.

  247. @songbird
    @AnonfromTN


    How exactly is this supposed to work?
     
    The US is very subservient these days. I don't know if it does work.

    Though I was specifically referring to Iran - and some believe the US downgraded the Israeli response. But their options were pretty limited anyway, they can hardly invade Iran on their own. Am sure they would love the US to do it, but can't bring it about.

    If they did drop a nuke, I think it would lead to the end of all international support, and they know it. Escalating conventional missile responses would just lead to escalating retribution by Iran.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    If they did drop a nuke, I think it would lead to the end of all international support

    I don’t think anything would end the US support.

    Just a few days ago 12 security council members voted to grant Palestine UN membership, with the sole vote opposing: the US. Even the most obsequious US lapdog the UK abstained:
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148731

    If you think that there is any Israeli action the US won’t support, even though the rest of the world is against it (or ashamed to acknowledge that it isn’t), think again.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AnonfromTN


    I don’t think anything would end the US support.
     
    It does feel as though the US is on tap eternally or until it goes bust.

    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don't think that will necessarily translate into anything. What matters more is campaign contributions and media support.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123

  248. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Russia has placed short-distance nukes on the Finnish border, they can vaporize Helsinki in 5 minutes.

    Do explain the advantage of short-distance nukes on either side when submarines on both sides will destroy the world in any nuclear exchange. A single trident sub can take out most of the Russian population.

    Maybe it doesn’t matter, but how are Finns better off?

    They don't have to worry about an angry dwarf invading them. Ukraine was the example of what can happen if you aren't in NATO and border Russia.

    On Russian State TV they openly talk of the Baltics belonging to them. Are we to believe that Putin would not have invaded them if they did not have NATO protection? Putin spoke of the USSR as an extension of Russian Imperialism. Why would they not invade the Baltics if they believe that they should be under Russian rule? In street interviews the Russian people get angry when the subject of the Baltics come up as if they are lost territory. Very similar to German views of Poland in the 1920s and 30s.

    Only a complete raving maniac could claim that Russia was planning to march into Finland or Sweden.

    Finland would be quite easy to take when compared to Ukraine. They have a tiny population that is mostly accessible by port.

    Of course Finland is better off in NATO. Why take a 1/100 chance of Putin deciding that Finland is part of historical Russia?

    If Ukraine had listened to NATO they would be in a much better position today. NATO countries warned Zelensky of an impending attack through Belarus and he expected Putin to negotiate first. If they had setup even two howitzers the attack from the North would have been smashed. It came through a single bridge and the surrounding area is swampland. NATO expertise was proven as valuable while the angry dwarf had lied the entire time about it being a training exercise. Scott Ritter is on video swearing that Russia won't attack because they don't do such things. He said that anyone who believes Russia will attack doesn't understand them. That was from Scott Ritter, convicted sex criminal and Russian military expert.

    Putin swore that he wouldn't invade Ukraine. Do you remember that? Where he had Lavrov scream at the UN for making such wild allegations?

    But an invasion of Finland would be a genuine wild allegation, right? That is what you are saying?

    Replies: @Beckow

    Only a complete raving maniac could claim that Russia was planning to march into Finland or Sweden.

    Finland would be quite easy to take when compared to Ukraine.

    We have found the raving maniac and it is you. Good, the Finns are safe, if the nukes start it is better to be in the early phase. It is possible that will be the only phase and Vienna, Budapest, Zurich will be spared, but why not volunteer to be vaporized? Finns have lived up to their reputation as the world’s suicide champions…

    If the odds are 1 to 100 that Russia would march into Finland (I think more like 1 to 10k, but whatever) and the odds of a nuclear war between Nato and Russia are today 1 to 10, any rational person would know what to do. But the Scandies are not very rational, they are just very obedient and conformist and people mistake that for smarts. They were rolled by the Anglo hustlers and not for the first time.

    Finns can now go and visit their long border with Russia to take pictures of the missiles pointing at them. In 5 minutes it could be all over, comforting. If the Finns-Nato put in their own missiles maybe the fireworks will start earlier. It is a d..k measuring exercise, nobody wins that.

    Your other stuff is just incoherent nonsense that doesn’t address what others said – you may very well actually be a bot. I still think you are more likely a very ordinary ‘merican with no knowledge of the region and some ethnic ties. And the usual ‘merican militant narcissism: “we can and they can’t!

  249. @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    KFOR in Kosovo leads to why not CSTO in the former Ukrainian SSR at some point? The Yugo 1999 action is a neocon confirmation of might making right. There will be some form of Russian victory on Russian terms with an agreement which Russia will feel secure enough.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …There will be some form of Russian victory on Russian terms with an agreement which Russia will feel secure enough.

    It looks like that. The only unknown is what the hysterical Westie neo-cons whose red lines have been crossed will do to delay it. They can buy time with more dead Ukies. Maybe even others, my guess would be Poles or Romanians, there are too few Balts to matter.

    The agreement will be a description of the reality is on the ground, not vice versa. We are back to pre-agreement days. Those were more fun anyway…:)

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    They can buy time with more dead Ukies. Maybe even others, my guess would be Poles or Romanians
     
    You are right, micro-nations won’t be useful: too few warm bodies. The empire is no more inclined to spare Polish or Romanian aborigines that it is to spare Ukies. However, if you think that it won’t treat Germans or French as aborigines, think again. Former Ukrainian soil will get plenty of fertilizer.

    Replies: @Beckow

  250. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Keep carrying on like a svidomite troll along with your racist outbursts. Russian soldiers are far better equipped and trained than those of the Kiev regime.

    So you have no comparable video showing similar conditions for Ukrainians. Got it.

    Did you see this in the news?

    American goes to fight for Russian values, gets killed and buttraped by Russian soldiers
    https://nypost.com/2024/04/20/world-news/pro-kremlin-texan-russell-bentley-found-dead-in-ukraine/

    Here he is showing an award for softest ass they could find in combat:
    https://ukranews.com/upload/media/2024/04/20/6623862e8a965-file-17fd6f988cb425163219d05c2dae1c25.jpg.webp

    He was at one time a pot advocate and Communist:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russell-texas-bentley-putin-propaganda-ukraine-interview-1315433/

    Oh and born into a wealthy family which is common for our confused radical leftists.

    Boy Putin really attracts some quality Americans.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Matra, @QCIC

    I tried to listen to an interview with this Bentley guy about six months ago but had to give up due to his comically archaic commie way of talking. Every other word was ‘Fascist’ or ‘Nazi’, obviously when referring to anyone who was not on the Russian side. It was like something out of a time capsule but maybe that’s how Donbass people talk.

  251. @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    ...There will be some form of Russian victory on Russian terms with an agreement which Russia will feel secure enough.
     
    It looks like that. The only unknown is what the hysterical Westie neo-cons whose red lines have been crossed will do to delay it. They can buy time with more dead Ukies. Maybe even others, my guess would be Poles or Romanians, there are too few Balts to matter.

    The agreement will be a description of the reality is on the ground, not vice versa. We are back to pre-agreement days. Those were more fun anyway...:)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    They can buy time with more dead Ukies. Maybe even others, my guess would be Poles or Romanians

    You are right, micro-nations won’t be useful: too few warm bodies. The empire is no more inclined to spare Polish or Romanian aborigines that it is to spare Ukies. However, if you think that it won’t treat Germans or French as aborigines, think again. Former Ukrainian soil will get plenty of fertilizer.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...it won’t treat Germans or French as aborigines, think again. Former Ukrainian soil will get plenty of fertilizer.
     
    I am familiar with those nations, French, Germans, Italians simply won't go. One exception would be Frenchie professionals - they are already in there, most are foreigners, but too few.

    If they run out of Ukies, it would be Poles, Balts, Romies, maybe Albanians next. But that's not how it usually goes - at some point even Ukies' (not the smartest people around) self-preservation will kick in. Maybe it has already.

    It is not complicated: two absolutely determined sides fight close to a total war. Russia is substantially stronger in that region - no amount of Nato sabre rattling can change that. In wars like that the stronger side eventually prevails and dictates the terms. The irrational desperate Ukie (=Nato) resistance will only make the terms harsher. Minsk was a fantastic deal for Kiev (not for Nato), Stambul still ok. What will come next will be much worse - what's left of Ukraine will be no threat to Russia. That is what it was all about...all they had to do was to keep their word and keep Nato out.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

  252. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    ...how much are you being paid to monitor this website?
     
    You lost your marbles...I do it for free. BTW, I just managed to obtain your IP, expect the unexpected knock on your doors.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Derer

    If you show up at my door, I hope that you’re wearing a hard hat. I HAVE A SPECIAL HARD STICK THAT I USE ON INTRUDERS LIKE YOU.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    I heard that you are usually sitting on the porch and shooting everything that moves. Using a stick? My goodness you are like Ukrainian army.

  253. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    They can buy time with more dead Ukies. Maybe even others, my guess would be Poles or Romanians
     
    You are right, micro-nations won’t be useful: too few warm bodies. The empire is no more inclined to spare Polish or Romanian aborigines that it is to spare Ukies. However, if you think that it won’t treat Germans or French as aborigines, think again. Former Ukrainian soil will get plenty of fertilizer.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …it won’t treat Germans or French as aborigines, think again. Former Ukrainian soil will get plenty of fertilizer.

    I am familiar with those nations, French, Germans, Italians simply won’t go. One exception would be Frenchie professionals – they are already in there, most are foreigners, but too few.

    If they run out of Ukies, it would be Poles, Balts, Romies, maybe Albanians next. But that’s not how it usually goes – at some point even Ukies’ (not the smartest people around) self-preservation will kick in. Maybe it has already.

    It is not complicated: two absolutely determined sides fight close to a total war. Russia is substantially stronger in that region – no amount of Nato sabre rattling can change that. In wars like that the stronger side eventually prevails and dictates the terms. The irrational desperate Ukie (=Nato) resistance will only make the terms harsher. Minsk was a fantastic deal for Kiev (not for Nato), Stambul still ok. What will come next will be much worse – what’s left of Ukraine will be no threat to Russia. That is what it was all about…all they had to do was to keep their word and keep Nato out.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    all they had to do was to keep their word
     
    Today’s West never keeps its word, spoken or written. That’s what “non-agreement-capable” means. The empire and its sidekicks only keep their word at gunpoint. That determined current RF strategy.
    , @QCIC
    @Beckow

    The Russian campaign has never been anything close to total war. Last time I checked there was no catastrophic damage or full devastation in any of the largest Ukrainian cities. I still think this is completely intentional. If Russia takes out the rest of the power plants in and around Kiev that will be closer to total war.

    Replies: @Beckow

  254. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...it won’t treat Germans or French as aborigines, think again. Former Ukrainian soil will get plenty of fertilizer.
     
    I am familiar with those nations, French, Germans, Italians simply won't go. One exception would be Frenchie professionals - they are already in there, most are foreigners, but too few.

    If they run out of Ukies, it would be Poles, Balts, Romies, maybe Albanians next. But that's not how it usually goes - at some point even Ukies' (not the smartest people around) self-preservation will kick in. Maybe it has already.

    It is not complicated: two absolutely determined sides fight close to a total war. Russia is substantially stronger in that region - no amount of Nato sabre rattling can change that. In wars like that the stronger side eventually prevails and dictates the terms. The irrational desperate Ukie (=Nato) resistance will only make the terms harsher. Minsk was a fantastic deal for Kiev (not for Nato), Stambul still ok. What will come next will be much worse - what's left of Ukraine will be no threat to Russia. That is what it was all about...all they had to do was to keep their word and keep Nato out.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    all they had to do was to keep their word

    Today’s West never keeps its word, spoken or written. That’s what “non-agreement-capable” means. The empire and its sidekicks only keep their word at gunpoint. That determined current RF strategy.

  255. @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    If they did drop a nuke, I think it would lead to the end of all international support
     
    I don’t think anything would end the US support.

    Just a few days ago 12 security council members voted to grant Palestine UN membership, with the sole vote opposing: the US. Even the most obsequious US lapdog the UK abstained:
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148731

    If you think that there is any Israeli action the US won’t support, even though the rest of the world is against it (or ashamed to acknowledge that it isn’t), think again.

    Replies: @songbird

    I don’t think anything would end the US support.

    It does feel as though the US is on tap eternally or until it goes bust.

    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don’t think that will necessarily translate into anything. What matters more is campaign contributions and media support.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don’t think that will necessarily translate into anything.
     
    The main problem is that powers-that-be can completely ignore the wishes of the populace. The results of the “elections” can be manipulated at will, as 2020 showed.

    The propaganda lies are no longer limited by the reality or even elementary logic. E.g., current protests against Israeli crimes in Gaza are labeled by MSM “antisemitism”, even though many Jewish organizations and even rabbis are among those protesting (understandable “not in my name” thing: Jews with conscience and dignity refuse to be seen as accomplices).
    , @A123
    @songbird


    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don’t think that will necessarily translate into anything. What matters more is campaign contributions and media support.
     
    The majority of the U.S. population supports indigenous Palestinian Jews. Therefore, this is an exception where Congress actually did align with the American people.

    However, it is quite odd combined with funding Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews. The fact that the bill makes no sense as a coherent whole detracts from its use as a symbol of enduring policy. It more closely resembles low quality sausage.

    Youth is fickle. A couple years ago the fad was 🇺🇦. For this brief moment it is supporting Hamas genocide. There is no reason to believe it will last. Look at this picture:

     
    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/mcs/media/images/48228000/jpg/_48228888_gay_pride2005bbc.jpg
     

    Yes. The Democrats are passionate about their SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim dogma. However, the DNC is not known for intellectual strength or consistency. There is every reason to believe that their passion for genocidal Jihad will wane or change over time. And, sane people are already switching to MAGA, thus undermining Leftoid zealotry.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

  256. So the Americans are arrogant, lying deceitful by sending long range missles to Ukraine…it shows that the U.S is in the grip of the A-moral Zionist cult and cannot be trusted ever until this cult is removed.

    Russia is now within its rights to pay proxys to sink or bring down these arms shipments in transit or pay minimum wage employees in the U.S to throw a spanner in the works…alls fair when fighting liars.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mr_Chow_Mein


    Russia is now within its rights
     
    Considering imperial banditry and thievery, Russia is within its rights to do anything. However, Russia will not stoop as low as the empire. You don’t need to become the scum of the Earth to successfully fight the scum of the Earth.
  257. @songbird
    @AnonfromTN


    I don’t think anything would end the US support.
     
    It does feel as though the US is on tap eternally or until it goes bust.

    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don't think that will necessarily translate into anything. What matters more is campaign contributions and media support.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123

    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don’t think that will necessarily translate into anything.

    The main problem is that powers-that-be can completely ignore the wishes of the populace. The results of the “elections” can be manipulated at will, as 2020 showed.

    The propaganda lies are no longer limited by the reality or even elementary logic. E.g., current protests against Israeli crimes in Gaza are labeled by MSM “antisemitism”, even though many Jewish organizations and even rabbis are among those protesting (understandable “not in my name” thing: Jews with conscience and dignity refuse to be seen as accomplices).

  258. A123 says: • Website
    @songbird
    @AnonfromTN


    I don’t think anything would end the US support.
     
    It does feel as though the US is on tap eternally or until it goes bust.

    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don't think that will necessarily translate into anything. What matters more is campaign contributions and media support.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123

    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don’t think that will necessarily translate into anything. What matters more is campaign contributions and media support.

    The majority of the U.S. population supports indigenous Palestinian Jews. Therefore, this is an exception where Congress actually did align with the American people.

    However, it is quite odd combined with funding Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews. The fact that the bill makes no sense as a coherent whole detracts from its use as a symbol of enduring policy. It more closely resembles low quality sausage.

    Youth is fickle. A couple years ago the fad was 🇺🇦. For this brief moment it is supporting Hamas genocide. There is no reason to believe it will last. Look at this picture:

     

     

    Yes. The Democrats are passionate about their SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim dogma. However, the DNC is not known for intellectual strength or consistency. There is every reason to believe that their passion for genocidal Jihad will wane or change over time. And, sane people are already switching to MAGA, thus undermining Leftoid zealotry.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123


    The majority of the U.S. population supports indigenous Palestinian Jews. Therefore, this is an exception where Congress actually did align with the American people.
     
    Was unaware there was a poll of Americas saying that they support billions in welfare for Israel.

    Replies: @Mikel, @A123

    , @Mikel
    @A123


    The fact that the bill makes no sense as a coherent whole detracts from its use as a symbol of enduring policy. It more closely resembles low quality sausage.
     
    As usual in these cases, the more comes to the surface about the border surrender by Speaker Johnson, the uglier it gets.

    Out of the 5 bills he pushed to the House to be voted individually and then returned to the Senate as a whole package, only one of them was introduced with a 2/3 majority requirement: the border bill. All the rest only required a simple majority. In fact, the border bill also got a comfortable majority (even 5 Dems voted for it) but, unlike the others, it didn't pass. The reason for this different rule in the border bill is very simple. As is well known, Senate leader Chuck Summer has kept warning for months that he won't let pass a foreign aid bill that includes border provisions (the Dems do care about the border - to keep it open- much more than about foreign conflicts). So Johnson didn't take any chances and introduced a rule that made certain his own border bill would not pass. According to Massie, who's been in the House Rules Committee for a long while, former Speaker McCarthy never twisted the rules with Democratic support so blatantly.

    And it doesn't end there. Right after the House vote Johnson traveled to Texas to support Tony Gonzales in his campaign for the House. Gonzales voted to impeach Trump. No wonder Diaz-Ballart and the rest of the swampies stood proudly behind Johnson for the photograph once they negotiated a consensus candidate with the MAGAs.

    The most concerning part of this all is that Johnson only made his move after getting the go-ahead from Trump, too worried about his personal matters to fight other battles. It's very clear at this point that Trump feels that he needs help from the Establishment types and a second term would be a sure repetition of his first term or worse. Perhaps he's right, actually. Haley got a substantial support in the primaries and even yesterday she got 19% in Pennsylvania, where she wasn't even on the ballots. He can't win in November without the support of the RINOs so, even if he manages to beat Biden, it's going to be more of the same. No border wall, foreign interventionism and business as usual in DC.

    Fortunately, we still have RFK and I don't even live in a battleground state so there's no point in wasting my vote. What good is voting Republican to get these end results? While all politicians lie and promise much more than they can deliver, Trump is in a league of his won. If I wanted open borders, woke culture and security state, I could be reasonably confident that my vote for the half-sentient being in the White House wouldn't go to waste. Not so with Trump. RFK is unambiguously against the open border, foreign wars and the Establishment. Since he can't possibly be as untrustworthy as Trump because that almost doesn't exist, he looks like the only candidate worth the trip to the vote center for.

    Replies: @A123

  259. @Mr_Chow_Mein
    So the Americans are arrogant, lying deceitful by sending long range missles to Ukraine...it shows that the U.S is in the grip of the A-moral Zionist cult and cannot be trusted ever until this cult is removed.

    Russia is now within its rights to pay proxys to sink or bring down these arms shipments in transit or pay minimum wage employees in the U.S to throw a spanner in the works...alls fair when fighting liars.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Russia is now within its rights

    Considering imperial banditry and thievery, Russia is within its rights to do anything. However, Russia will not stoop as low as the empire. You don’t need to become the scum of the Earth to successfully fight the scum of the Earth.

  260. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Keep carrying on like a svidomite troll along with your racist outbursts. Russian soldiers are far better equipped and trained than those of the Kiev regime.

    So you have no comparable video showing similar conditions for Ukrainians. Got it.

    Did you see this in the news?

    American goes to fight for Russian values, gets killed and buttraped by Russian soldiers
    https://nypost.com/2024/04/20/world-news/pro-kremlin-texan-russell-bentley-found-dead-in-ukraine/

    Here he is showing an award for softest ass they could find in combat:
    https://ukranews.com/upload/media/2024/04/20/6623862e8a965-file-17fd6f988cb425163219d05c2dae1c25.jpg.webp

    He was at one time a pot advocate and Communist:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russell-texas-bentley-putin-propaganda-ukraine-interview-1315433/

    Oh and born into a wealthy family which is common for our confused radical leftists.

    Boy Putin really attracts some quality Americans.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Matra, @QCIC

    The Rolling Stone interview is interesting and adds some clarity to why Bentley ended up over there.

  261. There is some good news today. Documents have been publicly released in the Florida case: (1)

    BIG PICTURE – Judge Cannon Unseals and Un-redacts Trump Legal Motion that Exposes DOJ Fraudulent Case Against Him

    President Trump’s attorney, Christopher Kise, did something similar to a speaking indictment with an extensive court motion on January 16, 2024. The 68-page motion is a comprehensive “speaking motion” which outlines a great deal of the fraud and Lawfare manipulation by the special counsel.

    In response to the filing, using the pre-established legal narrative about needing to control “national security” information, the Jack Smith team (essentially Lawfare operatives like Weissman, Eisen and McCord) redacted large portions of the Trump motion specifically to stop the public record from showing the outline. However, two days ago, April 22nd, Judge Aileen Cannon unsealed and more importantly ‘unredacted’ the motion.

    To clear up any confusion as to what Special Counsel Jack Smith sought to conceal in classified documents case, this is what Smith told Judge Cannon in Feb 2024 in response to Trump’s motion to compel discovery from numerous govt agencies:

    1) Defendants are not entitled to discovery of internal government correspondence and memoranda, or to documents that are otherwise privileged.

    2) The Court Should Deny Defendants’ Requests for Evidence of ‘Improper Coordination with NARA’ and of ‘Bias and Investigative Misconduct.’

    AND FINALLY:

    6) Defendants’ Request for Unredacted Discovery of Materials Should Be Denied.

    There’s a big difference between “classified documents” and “documents containing classified markings.” The intent of using the linguistics of the latter is to give the impression of something nefarious where nothing nefarious exists.

    The special counsel then used the auspices of national security, to control -through redactions and secrecy- the types of information within their court filings that would be visible to the public. Remember, this is LAWFARE and the primary interest of Lawfare is to influence public opinion.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/04/24/big-picture-judge-cannon-unseals-and-un-redacts-trump-legal-motion-that-exposes-doj-fraudulent-case-against-him/

  262. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...it won’t treat Germans or French as aborigines, think again. Former Ukrainian soil will get plenty of fertilizer.
     
    I am familiar with those nations, French, Germans, Italians simply won't go. One exception would be Frenchie professionals - they are already in there, most are foreigners, but too few.

    If they run out of Ukies, it would be Poles, Balts, Romies, maybe Albanians next. But that's not how it usually goes - at some point even Ukies' (not the smartest people around) self-preservation will kick in. Maybe it has already.

    It is not complicated: two absolutely determined sides fight close to a total war. Russia is substantially stronger in that region - no amount of Nato sabre rattling can change that. In wars like that the stronger side eventually prevails and dictates the terms. The irrational desperate Ukie (=Nato) resistance will only make the terms harsher. Minsk was a fantastic deal for Kiev (not for Nato), Stambul still ok. What will come next will be much worse - what's left of Ukraine will be no threat to Russia. That is what it was all about...all they had to do was to keep their word and keep Nato out.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    The Russian campaign has never been anything close to total war. Last time I checked there was no catastrophic damage or full devastation in any of the largest Ukrainian cities. I still think this is completely intentional. If Russia takes out the rest of the power plants in and around Kiev that will be closer to total war.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ... sides fight close to a total war.

    The Russian campaign has never been anything close to total war.
     

    They are closing in, both sides will go for the jugular. That's what I meant by "close to it" - it is no longer a "special operation" or a limited war. Kiev has not been flattened because it doesn't serve Russia's interest yet, "the mother of all cities" and all that. It is pretty clear that if the Ukies touch Crimea or massacre more Russian civilians Kiev and Lviv will be flattened. I suspect the Anglos would like that...they would have a good laugh about it, the dumb Ukies, oh boy...

    One or two more rounds of escalation and it will be a total war. That's never fun, but it is a total hell for the losing side.

  263. @A123
    @songbird


    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don’t think that will necessarily translate into anything. What matters more is campaign contributions and media support.
     
    The majority of the U.S. population supports indigenous Palestinian Jews. Therefore, this is an exception where Congress actually did align with the American people.

    However, it is quite odd combined with funding Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews. The fact that the bill makes no sense as a coherent whole detracts from its use as a symbol of enduring policy. It more closely resembles low quality sausage.

    Youth is fickle. A couple years ago the fad was 🇺🇦. For this brief moment it is supporting Hamas genocide. There is no reason to believe it will last. Look at this picture:

     
    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/mcs/media/images/48228000/jpg/_48228888_gay_pride2005bbc.jpg
     

    Yes. The Democrats are passionate about their SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim dogma. However, the DNC is not known for intellectual strength or consistency. There is every reason to believe that their passion for genocidal Jihad will wane or change over time. And, sane people are already switching to MAGA, thus undermining Leftoid zealotry.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

    The majority of the U.S. population supports indigenous Palestinian Jews. Therefore, this is an exception where Congress actually did align with the American people.

    Was unaware there was a poll of Americas saying that they support billions in welfare for Israel.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @songbird


    Was unaware there was a poll of Americas saying that they support billions in welfare for Israel.
     
    I don't know what such a poll would say but I often listen to John Beck and Sean Hannity during my morning errands and they've both spent 6 months now urging their listeners to donate to the charity they sponsor because the Gaza conflict has tragically led to lots of displaced people.... in Israel!

    Replies: @songbird

    , @A123
    @songbird

    Was unaware there was a poll of Americans saying that they oppose billions for Palestinian Jews. Please share a link to your source.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  264. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Plenty of footage showing Kiev regime personnel in dire conditions.

    Ok go ahead and show the equivalent of Ukrainians not having food or water. Let's see it.

    What you provide as proof for Russia is UK mass media BS like the ones saying Russians have to fight with shovels and need computer chips from washing machines.

    All the videos I have provided in relation to the conditions of the training facilities and trenches were cell phone videos taken from Russians. Most were originally posted to telegram by conscripts.

    Are you stating that the reports of Russians stripping chips from appliances are false?

    Why would that be hard to believe given the Russian dependence on Western computer chips? Anger management dwarf didn't check his import dependencies:

    Russian business hit hard by tech sanctions
    https://www.ft.com/content/caf2cd3c-1f42-4e4a-b24b-c0ed803a6245

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikhail

    Thanks, John!

    Also, this is a very off-topic question, but I figure that I might as well ask it:

    Anatoly Karlin has been talking about a future biosingularity due to IVF combined with embryo selection for desirable traits/genes, and also due to IVG (in-vitro gametogenesis) making synthetic sperm and synthetic eggs very easy to produce for humans on a mass scale in the future. In turn, this got me wondering: What would the ideal child support policy be from a eugenic perspective in order to accelerate the future biosingularity?

    It strikes me like giving unwilling parents a unilateral opt-out from paying child support in exchange for them getting sterilized (they could still reproduce eugenically with the help of IVG later on) and/or getting Vasalgel injections strikes me as a good idea. Honestly, forcing people to pay child support for genetically inferior children who are conceived through sexual intercourse strikes me as a bad idea if it will prevent them from producing (or at least producing as many) genetically superior children through IVF, IVG, and embryo selection for desirable traits/genes. We do want to make our fertility patterns as eugenic as possible in order to accelerate the future biosingularity, after all.

    As a side note, I wonder if the current child support laws are actually eugenic or dysgenic right now. Do you have any thoughts on this?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    As a side note, I wonder if the current child support laws are actually eugenic or dysgenic right now. Do you have any thoughts on this?

    I think Karlin is dipping too much into Sci-Fi even though I assume designer babies will someday be available. The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature. By the time such technology is widely available we could already be a Mad Max type dystopia from dysgenics or environmental destruction. But let's first hope that gene therapy for common gene diseases becomes a widespread practice.

    As for your question I suspect child support laws are slightly eugenic even though I oppose them in their current design. I simply think they are unfair to men and especially in cases where the woman was at fault in the divorce.

    Under current laws the woman can ditch the first family and start a new one while having secured funding for existing children. In most states the woman can basically decide who gets the kids. I think women are craftier than they let on when it comes to having children. Meaning I think they put more thought into the sperm than what Christian society wants to believe. If they marry young (often out of Christian guilt) they are much more likely to get divorced. I think in their second marriage they are more likely to upgrade so to speak. If they really don't like the husband then I think they consider that when having children. It's like moving in with someone and realizing you don't want to make more of that person.

    I also think single moms are more selective than people realize. I worked with liberal White women and I noticed a pattern with the single moms whereby the "whoops one night stand" tended to not be as random as it might appear. One homely woman "just happened" to somehow snare the sperm of various handsome men. I was actually quite impressed as she was very unattractive.

    I used to know this guy who was very homely but a great worker. He lived with a woman and her two very cute girls that were definitely not his. All just fate of the gods? Hmmmm guessing not and there was no talk of her having more kids. There is a Sociology study somewhere that shows how most children of never-married single moms are not accidents as everyone assumes. Women think more like dog breeders than they let on. My wife said that certain types of ears would definitely not get a second date as she wouldn't want her kids to have them. Men don't think this way. They'll take some weird ears as long as they get laid.

    But an interesting question and I will give it some more thought.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @YetAnotherAnon

  265. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Johnny, You should know that NATO in Finland is actually more detrimental to Finland than Russia. Joining sinking ship instead of neutrality is really stupid for Finland. In NATO, everything is done under duress and the duress-or resides in Washington.

    The cohesion is fragile actually even arms calibration is different among members and the bickering is increasing by the day because of the money and purpose. The end is near, actually the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the moment.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

    Johnny, You should know that NATO in Finland is actually more detrimental to Finland than Russia. Joining sinking ship instead of neutrality is really stupid for Finland. In NATO, everything is done under duress and the duress-or resides in Washington.

    NATO is a sinking ship? What do you base that assessment on? Do sinking organizations expand or retract?

    The cohesion is fragile actually even arms calibration is different among members and the bickering is increasing by the day because of the money and purpose. The end is near, actually the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the moment.

    Wishful thinking is a weakness in men.

    NATO is stronger than ever and I’m not a fan of the military industrial complex. I’d much rather see cuts to the US military budget in favor of populist spending and balancing the budget. But that is out for the next 5-10 years. This war is a bonanza for MIC profiteers. Putin has made a lot of military contractors very wealthy.

    The way to get rid of NATO would have been for Russia to have closer ties to the West and make it appear as an unneeded expense.

    The exact opposite has happened. Putin has made it clear that Russian Imperialism is not a thing of the past and small countries like Finland are better off in NATO than finding out if the anger management dwarf decides that “historical Russia” just happens to include them.

    NATO was actually split on Ukraine before the war. France and Germany were both opposed to Ukraine in NATO.

    France’s policy on Ukraine changes
    https://warontherocks.com/2023/08/frances-policy-shift-on-ukraines-nato-membership/

    Turkey has traditionally sided with Russia and they were also expected to block a Ukraine bid if they were someday able to qualify. That is also no longer the case as Turkey is now viewed as a reliable member and not a Russian ally.

    The dwarf is terrible at geopolitics. He doesn’t get that it’s easier to win friends with trade than guns. Both Georgia and Moldova hate Russia while the people of Belarus would vote out their Putin puppet if given the chance. Chechnya is held up by a mafia midget that was installed by Putin. The Syrians would also vote out the Russians if they had the choice. A lot of countries simply hate Russia and Putin isn’t helping by making new enemies.

    Russia does not have the economic power of the US or even close. When this war is over their GDP will be closer to Mexico. They don’t have the economic leverage that Putin’s fans like to imagine. Putin should have built up their economy instead of playing war.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson


    A lot of countries simply hate Russia and Putin isn’t helping by making new enemies.
     
    I think you misspelled the "USA". How come 156 countries sided with Russia on the question of sanctions and filthy theft of Russian assets. Putin is the most respected leader in the world. Actually Americans would like to have him instead of the geriatric disoriented fool in the WH, who has ambition to be there 4 more years - pathetic.
  266. @A123
    @songbird


    The youth may be more skeptical of Israel, but I don’t think that will necessarily translate into anything. What matters more is campaign contributions and media support.
     
    The majority of the U.S. population supports indigenous Palestinian Jews. Therefore, this is an exception where Congress actually did align with the American people.

    However, it is quite odd combined with funding Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews. The fact that the bill makes no sense as a coherent whole detracts from its use as a symbol of enduring policy. It more closely resembles low quality sausage.

    Youth is fickle. A couple years ago the fad was 🇺🇦. For this brief moment it is supporting Hamas genocide. There is no reason to believe it will last. Look at this picture:

     
    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/mcs/media/images/48228000/jpg/_48228888_gay_pride2005bbc.jpg
     

    Yes. The Democrats are passionate about their SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim dogma. However, the DNC is not known for intellectual strength or consistency. There is every reason to believe that their passion for genocidal Jihad will wane or change over time. And, sane people are already switching to MAGA, thus undermining Leftoid zealotry.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

    The fact that the bill makes no sense as a coherent whole detracts from its use as a symbol of enduring policy. It more closely resembles low quality sausage.

    As usual in these cases, the more comes to the surface about the border surrender by Speaker Johnson, the uglier it gets.

    Out of the 5 bills he pushed to the House to be voted individually and then returned to the Senate as a whole package, only one of them was introduced with a 2/3 majority requirement: the border bill. All the rest only required a simple majority. In fact, the border bill also got a comfortable majority (even 5 Dems voted for it) but, unlike the others, it didn’t pass. The reason for this different rule in the border bill is very simple. As is well known, Senate leader Chuck Summer has kept warning for months that he won’t let pass a foreign aid bill that includes border provisions (the Dems do care about the border – to keep it open- much more than about foreign conflicts). So Johnson didn’t take any chances and introduced a rule that made certain his own border bill would not pass. According to Massie, who’s been in the House Rules Committee for a long while, former Speaker McCarthy never twisted the rules with Democratic support so blatantly.

    And it doesn’t end there. Right after the House vote Johnson traveled to Texas to support Tony Gonzales in his campaign for the House. Gonzales voted to impeach Trump. No wonder Diaz-Ballart and the rest of the swampies stood proudly behind Johnson for the photograph once they negotiated a consensus candidate with the MAGAs.

    The most concerning part of this all is that Johnson only made his move after getting the go-ahead from Trump, too worried about his personal matters to fight other battles. It’s very clear at this point that Trump feels that he needs help from the Establishment types and a second term would be a sure repetition of his first term or worse. Perhaps he’s right, actually. Haley got a substantial support in the primaries and even yesterday she got 19% in Pennsylvania, where she wasn’t even on the ballots. He can’t win in November without the support of the RINOs so, even if he manages to beat Biden, it’s going to be more of the same. No border wall, foreign interventionism and business as usual in DC.

    Fortunately, we still have RFK and I don’t even live in a battleground state so there’s no point in wasting my vote. What good is voting Republican to get these end results? While all politicians lie and promise much more than they can deliver, Trump is in a league of his won. If I wanted open borders, woke culture and security state, I could be reasonably confident that my vote for the half-sentient being in the White House wouldn’t go to waste. Not so with Trump. RFK is unambiguously against the open border, foreign wars and the Establishment. Since he can’t possibly be as untrustworthy as Trump because that almost doesn’t exist, he looks like the only candidate worth the trip to the vote center for.

    • Thanks: S1
    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel

    Let me recap the situation: (1)


    Former President Trump muddied the waters with his support of Johnson, “Trump says he thinks Speaker Mike Johnson is ‘doing a very good job’ amid ouster threat from Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

    I doubt this is some form of 5D chess from Trump; it is only the simple reality that if Johnson is ousted and Democrats take control of the House, Trump's November election is over.

    Remember the U.S. Supreme Court decision on “insurrection” claimed by the Colorado Supreme Court? The March 4 decision stated:

    The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made. The relevant provision is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course to judicial review, to pass “appropriate legislation” to “enforce” the Fourteenth Amendment.
     
    In other words, Congress, by a simple majority, can pass a bill claiming that Trump is disqualified from the election due to being an “insurrectionist.” That would be the first order of business by a Democrat-controlled House. The Senate would pass the House bill and President Biden would sign it.

    If you don’t believe the Democrats would try to disqualify Trump in this manner, a bill introduced by Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin is already teed up.

    Per Axios:

    Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment.

    "We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court's decision," Raskin said.

    Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an "insurrection" and that those involved "engaged in insurrection."
     
    The SCOTUS decision mentioned, “Subject of course to judicial review.” Would that stop such a scheme? Why would SCOTUS block such an act of Congress that they green-lighted in their recent decision?

    This would explain Trump supporting Johnson. Does Rep. MTG realize how this could play out? Is she acting out of principle, or is this a backhanded way of undermining Trump? This is where the 5D chess machinations come in. Washington, D.C., is indeed a swamp.
     
    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    Do you really believe that SCOTUS would go out of their way to do the right thing?
    ____

    I too share your dismay at the idiotic bill that passed the House. However, fighting tomorrow requires surviving today. Preemptively capitulating by helping guaranteed loser RFKjr is obviously unwise.

    You can say that Trump us an imperfect choice... But please tell me you realize he is the best and only choice that has a chance at defeating the Veggie-In-Chief this November.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/04/how_do_you_solve_a_problem_like_mike_johnson.html

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

  267. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Plenty of footage showing Kiev regime personnel in dire conditions.

    Ok go ahead and show the equivalent of Ukrainians not having food or water. Let's see it.

    What you provide as proof for Russia is UK mass media BS like the ones saying Russians have to fight with shovels and need computer chips from washing machines.

    All the videos I have provided in relation to the conditions of the training facilities and trenches were cell phone videos taken from Russians. Most were originally posted to telegram by conscripts.

    Are you stating that the reports of Russians stripping chips from appliances are false?

    Why would that be hard to believe given the Russian dependence on Western computer chips? Anger management dwarf didn't check his import dependencies:

    Russian business hit hard by tech sanctions
    https://www.ft.com/content/caf2cd3c-1f42-4e4a-b24b-c0ed803a6245

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikhail

    You haven’t proven anything with the facts on the ground in Russia’s clear favor. Why hasn’t the superior West produced a hyper sonic missile? Probably relates to the rampant corruption.

    The US outspends the next seven leading nations in defense spending combined. Five of the ten leading defense spenders are NATO members. The US outspends Russia and China combined by a three to one margin.

    Yet Russia produces artillery shells and tanks at a much better rate than what the collective West can give to the corrupt, lying, undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced Kiev regime, which has blood on its hands before and after 2/24/22.

  268. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Thanks, John!

    Also, this is a very off-topic question, but I figure that I might as well ask it:

    Anatoly Karlin has been talking about a future biosingularity due to IVF combined with embryo selection for desirable traits/genes, and also due to IVG (in-vitro gametogenesis) making synthetic sperm and synthetic eggs very easy to produce for humans on a mass scale in the future. In turn, this got me wondering: What would the ideal child support policy be from a eugenic perspective in order to accelerate the future biosingularity?

    It strikes me like giving unwilling parents a unilateral opt-out from paying child support in exchange for them getting sterilized (they could still reproduce eugenically with the help of IVG later on) and/or getting Vasalgel injections strikes me as a good idea. Honestly, forcing people to pay child support for genetically inferior children who are conceived through sexual intercourse strikes me as a bad idea if it will prevent them from producing (or at least producing as many) genetically superior children through IVF, IVG, and embryo selection for desirable traits/genes. We do want to make our fertility patterns as eugenic as possible in order to accelerate the future biosingularity, after all.

    As a side note, I wonder if the current child support laws are actually eugenic or dysgenic right now. Do you have any thoughts on this?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    As a side note, I wonder if the current child support laws are actually eugenic or dysgenic right now. Do you have any thoughts on this?

    I think Karlin is dipping too much into Sci-Fi even though I assume designer babies will someday be available. The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature. By the time such technology is widely available we could already be a Mad Max type dystopia from dysgenics or environmental destruction. But let’s first hope that gene therapy for common gene diseases becomes a widespread practice.

    As for your question I suspect child support laws are slightly eugenic even though I oppose them in their current design. I simply think they are unfair to men and especially in cases where the woman was at fault in the divorce.

    Under current laws the woman can ditch the first family and start a new one while having secured funding for existing children. In most states the woman can basically decide who gets the kids. I think women are craftier than they let on when it comes to having children. Meaning I think they put more thought into the sperm than what Christian society wants to believe. If they marry young (often out of Christian guilt) they are much more likely to get divorced. I think in their second marriage they are more likely to upgrade so to speak. If they really don’t like the husband then I think they consider that when having children. It’s like moving in with someone and realizing you don’t want to make more of that person.

    I also think single moms are more selective than people realize. I worked with liberal White women and I noticed a pattern with the single moms whereby the “whoops one night stand” tended to not be as random as it might appear. One homely woman “just happened” to somehow snare the sperm of various handsome men. I was actually quite impressed as she was very unattractive.

    I used to know this guy who was very homely but a great worker. He lived with a woman and her two very cute girls that were definitely not his. All just fate of the gods? Hmmmm guessing not and there was no talk of her having more kids. There is a Sociology study somewhere that shows how most children of never-married single moms are not accidents as everyone assumes. Women think more like dog breeders than they let on. My wife said that certain types of ears would definitely not get a second date as she wouldn’t want her kids to have them. Men don’t think this way. They’ll take some weird ears as long as they get laid.

    But an interesting question and I will give it some more thought.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature.
     
    Embryo selection does not involve editing any embryos' genes, simply choosing the embryo(s) with the best genes to implant as they already are right now.

    BTW, do you think that the old (pre-1970s) child support laws were more eugenic or dysgenic relative to the current (post-1970s) child support laws?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "Women think more like dog breeders than they let on."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis

    "states that a female's ideal mate choice among potential mates is one whose genes will produce males with the best chance of reproductive success. This implies that other benefits the father can offer the mother or offspring are less relevant than they may appear, including his capacity as a parental caregiver, territory and any nuptial gifts."



    If true, it may explain the depressing fact that prisoners apparently father more kids than those never imprisoned, despite the incapacitance effect of being banged up. Difficult to find the stats but I think Sailer has mentioned it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/oct/06/over-100000-children-in-england-and-wales-have-parent-in-prison-analysis-shows

    Replies: @LatW

  269. @songbird
    @A123


    The majority of the U.S. population supports indigenous Palestinian Jews. Therefore, this is an exception where Congress actually did align with the American people.
     
    Was unaware there was a poll of Americas saying that they support billions in welfare for Israel.

    Replies: @Mikel, @A123

    Was unaware there was a poll of Americas saying that they support billions in welfare for Israel.

    I don’t know what such a poll would say but I often listen to John Beck and Sean Hannity during my morning errands and they’ve both spent 6 months now urging their listeners to donate to the charity they sponsor because the Gaza conflict has tragically led to lots of displaced people…. in Israel!

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mikel

    Years and years ago, I saw this really bizarre spot on TV that purported to be a charity soliciting American Christians to donate money so that poor, elderly Jews in Israel could have a kosher meal shipped to their door. Passover Seder, I think it was.

    Couldn't believe it. What other developed country (assuming it was linked) was airing a spot to get Americans to give them free food? And Jews are probably the richest people on Earth, to boot. It was so bizarre and on the surface seemed like such an obvious scam that I couldn't understand how anyone would think it would work. Of course, I never saw their internals.

    Replies: @Matra

  270. @Mikel
    @A123


    The fact that the bill makes no sense as a coherent whole detracts from its use as a symbol of enduring policy. It more closely resembles low quality sausage.
     
    As usual in these cases, the more comes to the surface about the border surrender by Speaker Johnson, the uglier it gets.

    Out of the 5 bills he pushed to the House to be voted individually and then returned to the Senate as a whole package, only one of them was introduced with a 2/3 majority requirement: the border bill. All the rest only required a simple majority. In fact, the border bill also got a comfortable majority (even 5 Dems voted for it) but, unlike the others, it didn't pass. The reason for this different rule in the border bill is very simple. As is well known, Senate leader Chuck Summer has kept warning for months that he won't let pass a foreign aid bill that includes border provisions (the Dems do care about the border - to keep it open- much more than about foreign conflicts). So Johnson didn't take any chances and introduced a rule that made certain his own border bill would not pass. According to Massie, who's been in the House Rules Committee for a long while, former Speaker McCarthy never twisted the rules with Democratic support so blatantly.

    And it doesn't end there. Right after the House vote Johnson traveled to Texas to support Tony Gonzales in his campaign for the House. Gonzales voted to impeach Trump. No wonder Diaz-Ballart and the rest of the swampies stood proudly behind Johnson for the photograph once they negotiated a consensus candidate with the MAGAs.

    The most concerning part of this all is that Johnson only made his move after getting the go-ahead from Trump, too worried about his personal matters to fight other battles. It's very clear at this point that Trump feels that he needs help from the Establishment types and a second term would be a sure repetition of his first term or worse. Perhaps he's right, actually. Haley got a substantial support in the primaries and even yesterday she got 19% in Pennsylvania, where she wasn't even on the ballots. He can't win in November without the support of the RINOs so, even if he manages to beat Biden, it's going to be more of the same. No border wall, foreign interventionism and business as usual in DC.

    Fortunately, we still have RFK and I don't even live in a battleground state so there's no point in wasting my vote. What good is voting Republican to get these end results? While all politicians lie and promise much more than they can deliver, Trump is in a league of his won. If I wanted open borders, woke culture and security state, I could be reasonably confident that my vote for the half-sentient being in the White House wouldn't go to waste. Not so with Trump. RFK is unambiguously against the open border, foreign wars and the Establishment. Since he can't possibly be as untrustworthy as Trump because that almost doesn't exist, he looks like the only candidate worth the trip to the vote center for.

    Replies: @A123

    Let me recap the situation: (1)

    Former President Trump muddied the waters with his support of Johnson, “Trump says he thinks Speaker Mike Johnson is ‘doing a very good job’ amid ouster threat from Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

    I doubt this is some form of 5D chess from Trump; it is only the simple reality that if Johnson is ousted and Democrats take control of the House, Trump’s November election is over.

    Remember the U.S. Supreme Court decision on “insurrection” claimed by the Colorado Supreme Court? The March 4 decision stated:

    The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made. The relevant provision is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course to judicial review, to pass “appropriate legislation” to “enforce” the Fourteenth Amendment.

    In other words, Congress, by a simple majority, can pass a bill claiming that Trump is disqualified from the election due to being an “insurrectionist.” That would be the first order of business by a Democrat-controlled House. The Senate would pass the House bill and President Biden would sign it.

    If you don’t believe the Democrats would try to disqualify Trump in this manner, a bill introduced by Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin is already teed up.

    Per Axios:

    Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment.

    “We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court’s decision,” Raskin said.

    Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an “insurrection” and that those involved “engaged in insurrection.”

    The SCOTUS decision mentioned, “Subject of course to judicial review.” Would that stop such a scheme? Why would SCOTUS block such an act of Congress that they green-lighted in their recent decision?

    This would explain Trump supporting Johnson. Does Rep. MTG realize how this could play out? Is she acting out of principle, or is this a backhanded way of undermining Trump? This is where the 5D chess machinations come in. Washington, D.C., is indeed a swamp.

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    Do you really believe that SCOTUS would go out of their way to do the right thing?
    ____

    I too share your dismay at the idiotic bill that passed the House. However, fighting tomorrow requires surviving today. Preemptively capitulating by helping guaranteed loser RFKjr is obviously unwise.

    You can say that Trump us an imperfect choice… But please tell me you realize he is the best and only choice that has a chance at defeating the Veggie-In-Chief this November.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/04/how_do_you_solve_a_problem_like_mike_johnson.html

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    So, supporting Johnson (Ukraine defense spending guy) is ultimately beneficial for Trump's reelection bid. Can we expect you to also make an about face and support Johnson and his support for Ukraine, like your superman Trump has done? In case you need a reminder about how things are going:

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/TrumpMikeJohnsonMW-600x565.png
    Looks like Trump has effectively put you and your stupid "Russia's defensive war" out of business! :-)

    Stick to smearing Islamo-Soros, he's even creepier than Trump...

    , @Mikel
    @A123

    Thanks for that article. There are some good arguments there.

    Of course, there is no doubt Raskin would go ahead with his plan to disqualify Trump (though he'd lack the votes). That's not even as radical as what they're already doing with the five sham trials. To the extent that they think about provoking a civil confrontation at all, they probably reckon that it might be good for them. Provoke Trump followers to commit illegal acts and use the levers of power (that they control) to suppress them forever.

    Outrageous as the "fraud" trial was (has any politician ever in any part of the world received a $0.5B fine... using a novel interpretation of a law that had never been used before?), it's nothing compared to the remaining trials. Imagine yourself having to face 4 consecutive criminal trials and knowing that you're up against prosecutors, judges and jurors fully determined to send you to jail for the rest of your life in each of them. They're clearly trying to break the man. And to some extent or another, it will be a miracle if they don't succeed.

    But this actually reinforces my point. Trump is no shape to lead any ideological fight and he wasn't good at that even when he was younger and free of all these threats.


    You can say that Trump us an imperfect choice… But please tell me you realize he is the best and only choice that has a chance at defeating the Veggie-In-Chief this November
     
    Yes. But how much does that matter really? Jesse Kelly is capable of saying pretty moronic things but he has convinced me that the only elections that really matter at this point in time are the congressional primaries. As we keep seeing all the time, sending a Thomas Massie or a Chip Roy to Washington instead of a Diaz-Ballart or a Mike Johnson is much more consequential policy-wise than voting for Trump in November.

    Fortunately, there are lots of new candidates in all states running for Congress with MAGA or libertarian ideas. I see plenty cropping up in Utah, even though this is a RINO paradise. But unfortunately, most Republican voters aren't motivated enough to take part in the primaries, keep sending Establishment RINOs to DC and then plan on fixing everything by voting for savior Trump. Even more unfortunately, Trump keeps endorsing candidates that are _not_ MAGA and will surely betray his policies and possibly himself once in Washington. See Ann Coulter's latest column about that son of illegal Syrian immigrants that he's endorsing in Arizona.

    Replies: @A123

  271. @songbird
    @A123


    The majority of the U.S. population supports indigenous Palestinian Jews. Therefore, this is an exception where Congress actually did align with the American people.
     
    Was unaware there was a poll of Americas saying that they support billions in welfare for Israel.

    Replies: @Mikel, @A123

    Was unaware there was a poll of Americans saying that they oppose billions for Palestinian Jews. Please share a link to your source.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123

    Curiously, this Rasmussen poll seems to mention a figure of 49% in support or saying it is not enough. It appears to be paywalled, so I have just seen this RT story:
    https://www.rt.com/news/596543-us-foreign-aid-generous-poll/

    Frankly, I have a hard time believing it. Maybe, people were afraid to answer 😉.

    Replies: @A123

  272. @QCIC
    @Beckow

    The Russian campaign has never been anything close to total war. Last time I checked there was no catastrophic damage or full devastation in any of the largest Ukrainian cities. I still think this is completely intentional. If Russia takes out the rest of the power plants in and around Kiev that will be closer to total war.

    Replies: @Beckow

    … sides fight close to a total war.

    The Russian campaign has never been anything close to total war.

    They are closing in, both sides will go for the jugular. That’s what I meant by “close to it” – it is no longer a “special operation” or a limited war. Kiev has not been flattened because it doesn’t serve Russia’s interest yet, “the mother of all cities” and all that. It is pretty clear that if the Ukies touch Crimea or massacre more Russian civilians Kiev and Lviv will be flattened. I suspect the Anglos would like that…they would have a good laugh about it, the dumb Ukies, oh boy…

    One or two more rounds of escalation and it will be a total war. That’s never fun, but it is a total hell for the losing side.

    • Agree: QCIC
  273. @A123
    @songbird

    Was unaware there was a poll of Americans saying that they oppose billions for Palestinian Jews. Please share a link to your source.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    Curiously, this Rasmussen poll seems to mention a figure of 49% in support or saying it is not enough. It appears to be paywalled, so I have just seen this RT story:
    https://www.rt.com/news/596543-us-foreign-aid-generous-poll/

    Frankly, I have a hard time believing it. Maybe, people were afraid to answer 😉.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird

    Why do you have a hard time believing that Judeo-Christian Americans are a plurality, willing to support Judeo-Christians in Palestine?

    I guess that Bidenomics is so grueling, base survival is kicking in. On religion and morality, 49% is surprisingly low. Supporting the victims of centuries of Muslim violence is objectively the right thing to do.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B55gpo3OgQk

  274. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    ...how much are you being paid to monitor this website?
     
    You lost your marbles...I do it for free. BTW, I just managed to obtain your IP, expect the unexpected knock on your doors.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Derer

    I heard that you are usually sitting on the porch and shooting everything that moves. Using a stick? My goodness you are like Ukrainian army.

  275. What Really Happened to Zaluzhny? New $60 Billion Aid Package to Kiev Regime. NATO’s New Strategy for Kiev Regime – Political Terror to Break Russian People, more…

    https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/what-really-happened-to-zaluzhny?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    ————————————————————————-

    Ukrainian foreign minister agrees with Kremlin
    https://www.rt.com/russia/596520-kuleba-ukraine-aid-kremlin/

    US aid won’t be enough to stop Russian forces, Dmitry Kuleba has said

    ————————————————————————-

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mikhail


    US aid won’t be enough to stop Russian forces, Dmitry Kuleba has said
     
    Exactly...the real hideous objective is not to help Ukraine but to reduce the white Slavic population. The US aid is always concocted by the Washington shadow politburo dominated by a tribe that hate Slavs. It is not the sentiment of the American people.

    Replies: @Beckow

  276. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    As a side note, I wonder if the current child support laws are actually eugenic or dysgenic right now. Do you have any thoughts on this?

    I think Karlin is dipping too much into Sci-Fi even though I assume designer babies will someday be available. The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature. By the time such technology is widely available we could already be a Mad Max type dystopia from dysgenics or environmental destruction. But let's first hope that gene therapy for common gene diseases becomes a widespread practice.

    As for your question I suspect child support laws are slightly eugenic even though I oppose them in their current design. I simply think they are unfair to men and especially in cases where the woman was at fault in the divorce.

    Under current laws the woman can ditch the first family and start a new one while having secured funding for existing children. In most states the woman can basically decide who gets the kids. I think women are craftier than they let on when it comes to having children. Meaning I think they put more thought into the sperm than what Christian society wants to believe. If they marry young (often out of Christian guilt) they are much more likely to get divorced. I think in their second marriage they are more likely to upgrade so to speak. If they really don't like the husband then I think they consider that when having children. It's like moving in with someone and realizing you don't want to make more of that person.

    I also think single moms are more selective than people realize. I worked with liberal White women and I noticed a pattern with the single moms whereby the "whoops one night stand" tended to not be as random as it might appear. One homely woman "just happened" to somehow snare the sperm of various handsome men. I was actually quite impressed as she was very unattractive.

    I used to know this guy who was very homely but a great worker. He lived with a woman and her two very cute girls that were definitely not his. All just fate of the gods? Hmmmm guessing not and there was no talk of her having more kids. There is a Sociology study somewhere that shows how most children of never-married single moms are not accidents as everyone assumes. Women think more like dog breeders than they let on. My wife said that certain types of ears would definitely not get a second date as she wouldn't want her kids to have them. Men don't think this way. They'll take some weird ears as long as they get laid.

    But an interesting question and I will give it some more thought.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @YetAnotherAnon

    The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature.

    Embryo selection does not involve editing any embryos’ genes, simply choosing the embryo(s) with the best genes to implant as they already are right now.

    BTW, do you think that the old (pre-1970s) child support laws were more eugenic or dysgenic relative to the current (post-1970s) child support laws?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ


    The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature.

     

    Embryo selection does not involve editing any embryos’ genes, simply choosing the embryo(s) with the best genes to implant as they already are right now.

    Yes and I was talking about in utero gene therapy. It's still extremely expensive to flip a single gene.

    Embryo selection is controversial and a huge section of the population would opt out even if you reduced the cost.
    BTW, do you think that the old (pre-1970s) child support laws were more eugenic or dysgenic relative to the current (post-1970s) child support laws?

    I don't know anything about pre-70s child support laws.

    I think the bigger problem is no-fault divorce which supersedes child support.

    My guess is that it works against the middle class and is dysgenic. At the very least it is anti-natal. I think it leads to fewer children by permitting either side to divorce for hedonistic reasons. The wife or husband leaves for a fling and they don't have any more children. It also causes men to be wary of marriage when they witness such divorces.

  277. @songbird
    @A123

    Curiously, this Rasmussen poll seems to mention a figure of 49% in support or saying it is not enough. It appears to be paywalled, so I have just seen this RT story:
    https://www.rt.com/news/596543-us-foreign-aid-generous-poll/

    Frankly, I have a hard time believing it. Maybe, people were afraid to answer 😉.

    Replies: @A123

    Why do you have a hard time believing that Judeo-Christian Americans are a plurality, willing to support Judeo-Christians in Palestine?

    I guess that Bidenomics is so grueling, base survival is kicking in. On religion and morality, 49% is surprisingly low. Supporting the victims of centuries of Muslim violence is objectively the right thing to do.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    • LOL: songbird
  278. @Mikel
    @songbird


    Was unaware there was a poll of Americas saying that they support billions in welfare for Israel.
     
    I don't know what such a poll would say but I often listen to John Beck and Sean Hannity during my morning errands and they've both spent 6 months now urging their listeners to donate to the charity they sponsor because the Gaza conflict has tragically led to lots of displaced people.... in Israel!

    Replies: @songbird

    Years and years ago, I saw this really bizarre spot on TV that purported to be a charity soliciting American Christians to donate money so that poor, elderly Jews in Israel could have a kosher meal shipped to their door. Passover Seder, I think it was.

    Couldn’t believe it. What other developed country (assuming it was linked) was airing a spot to get Americans to give them free food? And Jews are probably the richest people on Earth, to boot. It was so bizarre and on the surface seemed like such an obvious scam that I couldn’t understand how anyone would think it would work. Of course, I never saw their internals.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Matra
    @songbird

    I'm told that ad still plays on TV in Canada, and so probably the US too. (I think I first saw it on Fox News, maybe 15 years ago). IIRC the elderly, crying, impoverished Jews were supposedly in Russia or some other eastern backwater where swastikas were regularly painted on gravestones. It really was shameless. It was also a bit of an IQ test.

    Replies: @Beckow

  279. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Johnny, You should know that NATO in Finland is actually more detrimental to Finland than Russia. Joining sinking ship instead of neutrality is really stupid for Finland. In NATO, everything is done under duress and the duress-or resides in Washington.

    NATO is a sinking ship? What do you base that assessment on? Do sinking organizations expand or retract?

    The cohesion is fragile actually even arms calibration is different among members and the bickering is increasing by the day because of the money and purpose. The end is near, actually the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the moment.

    Wishful thinking is a weakness in men.

    NATO is stronger than ever and I'm not a fan of the military industrial complex. I'd much rather see cuts to the US military budget in favor of populist spending and balancing the budget. But that is out for the next 5-10 years. This war is a bonanza for MIC profiteers. Putin has made a lot of military contractors very wealthy.

    The way to get rid of NATO would have been for Russia to have closer ties to the West and make it appear as an unneeded expense.

    The exact opposite has happened. Putin has made it clear that Russian Imperialism is not a thing of the past and small countries like Finland are better off in NATO than finding out if the anger management dwarf decides that "historical Russia" just happens to include them.

    NATO was actually split on Ukraine before the war. France and Germany were both opposed to Ukraine in NATO.

    France's policy on Ukraine changes
    https://warontherocks.com/2023/08/frances-policy-shift-on-ukraines-nato-membership/

    Turkey has traditionally sided with Russia and they were also expected to block a Ukraine bid if they were someday able to qualify. That is also no longer the case as Turkey is now viewed as a reliable member and not a Russian ally.

    The dwarf is terrible at geopolitics. He doesn't get that it's easier to win friends with trade than guns. Both Georgia and Moldova hate Russia while the people of Belarus would vote out their Putin puppet if given the chance. Chechnya is held up by a mafia midget that was installed by Putin. The Syrians would also vote out the Russians if they had the choice. A lot of countries simply hate Russia and Putin isn't helping by making new enemies.

    Russia does not have the economic power of the US or even close. When this war is over their GDP will be closer to Mexico. They don't have the economic leverage that Putin's fans like to imagine. Putin should have built up their economy instead of playing war.

    Replies: @Derer

    A lot of countries simply hate Russia and Putin isn’t helping by making new enemies.

    I think you misspelled the “USA”. How come 156 countries sided with Russia on the question of sanctions and filthy theft of Russian assets. Putin is the most respected leader in the world. Actually Americans would like to have him instead of the geriatric disoriented fool in the WH, who has ambition to be there 4 more years – pathetic.

  280. Just as I suspected the Russian soldiers who killed (and apparently raped) Russell Bentley were likely non-whites. Almost every time one reads about Russian soldiers engaging in rape and/or mutilation it ends up being Asians from eastern Russia. Sadly, these are likely the types of Russians who will replace Ukrainians as they conquer new territory. Based Putin indeed.

    I think it is worth noting that Russell and I had a point of disagreement about non-Russians in Russia, with me warning him that they were anti-Russian and up to no good, generally, and Russell declaring, loudly, that they were his brothers against the Fascists. But, being “colorblind” doesn’t make the dangers of dealing with the feral DIEversity go away. There are very many Russians who end up being victims of the DIEversity, regardless of whether or not they pride themselves on being tolerant or not. And speaking out about these ethnic crimes is what gets one labeled a “Neo-Nazi Fascist” by the government and the media in Russia. We can’t control what the elites dictate to us, and the policies that they pass to oppress us, but we can at least stop internalizing their brainwashing and refuse to police ourselves on behalf of the state.

    Link

    Needless to say, Russell Bentley was a boomer.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Matra

    Russell Bentley was a thorn in the side of the Ukies and their American paymasters for many years. While some may not approve of his perspective or manner of speaking, he had a "salt of the earth" demeanor which came across as genuine and highly reasonable to many people. He was explaining the Ukie attacks on Donbas civilians from a first-hand perspective for many years, long before these crimes became common knowledge in the English-speaking world. With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent. Stirring up trouble within Russia by any and all means available and at every level is a primary task of the ongoing Western project. This murder would fit into that project well. I was surprised he survived as long as he did. He was a child of the Cold War and I think he realized the West was agitating to start World War 3. He was one of a handful of uninvolved men in the entire world who bravely put his life on the line to stop this massive evil. Rest in Peace, Russell.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Matra

    , @Dmitry
    @Matra

    The beginning sentences of the link is not evidence of the claim Buryats have been raping foreign reporters.

    From the first thing, the nationality of the division.

    5th Guards is from Buryatia. Buryatia is a Russian majority non-Russian Republic of the Russian Federation.

    Buryatia is the national homeland of the Buryat people who are the titular nationality.

    While Buryatia is the homeland of the Buryat people, it is a Russian majority region and the army doesn't only recruit locally. The location of the division in Buryatia doesn't imply tankers of the 5th Guards are all Buryats, although Buryats should have higher proportion of tankers in the Russian army because of the size requirement of tankers for Soviet tanks needs people below average height.

    -

    In their group pictures they look like an ethnically mixed unit, with mix of soldiers of Buryat, Russian, Tatar, Caucasian and other nationality.


    https://sun9-35.userapi.com/impg/XstWOC-5NoxwvMbXBXy1cqkd9rkk9RgsPLYWSg/AcW-SEws9_s.jpg?size=1280x960&quality=95&sign=7b087f8ded4e6803a6ebb15d9145a074&type=album

  281. @songbird
    @Mikel

    Years and years ago, I saw this really bizarre spot on TV that purported to be a charity soliciting American Christians to donate money so that poor, elderly Jews in Israel could have a kosher meal shipped to their door. Passover Seder, I think it was.

    Couldn't believe it. What other developed country (assuming it was linked) was airing a spot to get Americans to give them free food? And Jews are probably the richest people on Earth, to boot. It was so bizarre and on the surface seemed like such an obvious scam that I couldn't understand how anyone would think it would work. Of course, I never saw their internals.

    Replies: @Matra

    I’m told that ad still plays on TV in Canada, and so probably the US too. (I think I first saw it on Fox News, maybe 15 years ago). IIRC the elderly, crying, impoverished Jews were supposedly in Russia or some other eastern backwater where swastikas were regularly painted on gravestones. It really was shameless. It was also a bit of an IQ test.

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Matra


    ...It was also a bit of an IQ test.
     
    So one would assume that a lot of 'mericans and Canadians donated...:) It is a crime to leave a fool with his money. But it is aimed at elderly women...

    Try to imagine another ethnic group around the world begging publicly for money to bail out their suffering co-patriots. But we don't have to imagine it, the Ukies have been shamelessly doing it for years...Mr.Hack was boasting that he gives...that figures.

    Replies: @Matra

  282. @Mikhail
    What Really Happened to Zaluzhny? New $60 Billion Aid Package to Kiev Regime. NATO's New Strategy for Kiev Regime - Political Terror to Break Russian People, more...

    https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/what-really-happened-to-zaluzhny?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Ukrainian foreign minister agrees with Kremlin
    https://www.rt.com/russia/596520-kuleba-ukraine-aid-kremlin/

    US aid won’t be enough to stop Russian forces, Dmitry Kuleba has said


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0zVrGzcyw

    Replies: @Derer

    US aid won’t be enough to stop Russian forces, Dmitry Kuleba has said

    Exactly…the real hideous objective is not to help Ukraine but to reduce the white Slavic population. The US aid is always concocted by the Washington shadow politburo dominated by a tribe that hate Slavs. It is not the sentiment of the American people.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Derer


    ...the real hideous objective is not to help Ukraine but to reduce the white Slavic population.
     
    That may be true but motivations are hard to prove. Other people may want something bad for you, but at the end of the day it is the Ukies who are lining up like lemmings to die for it. Others wouldn't fall for it, there is generally a lot more self-preservation in people than what we see in Ukraine.

    After the carnage is done the survivors will claim that they were deceived or that they were too scared. I am not sure which one is worse, being a dumbo or a patsy. One thing we will not see are the surviving Ukies saying "I wish I had gone to the trenches."

    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,... will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

  283. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    If you show up at my door, I hope that you're wearing a hard hat. I HAVE A SPECIAL HARD STICK THAT I USE ON INTRUDERS LIKE YOU.

    Replies: @Derer

    I heard that you are usually sitting on the porch and shooting everything that moves. Using a stick? My goodness you are like Ukrainian army.

  284. • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    Guess it must be a different scroll and group.

    Sounds like they are using an alternative imagining technique.

    Am supposing but must be a lot cheaper and more local which would perhaps remove any political hurdles to getting the scrolls scanned. But OCT doesn't have the same ability to penetrate as a partical accelerator, so one could not get the full scroll, but only about the first 2 or 3 mm. They say 30% of that particular one, which I think must be their limit on it.

    Top layers could potentially increase the available data by quite a lot. Improve the ML. And allow one to prioritize what scrolls to give the full treatment to, though I don't think the cost itself is really a huge issue, considering the potential.

    Replies: @sudden death

  285. @Matra
    @songbird

    I'm told that ad still plays on TV in Canada, and so probably the US too. (I think I first saw it on Fox News, maybe 15 years ago). IIRC the elderly, crying, impoverished Jews were supposedly in Russia or some other eastern backwater where swastikas were regularly painted on gravestones. It really was shameless. It was also a bit of an IQ test.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …It was also a bit of an IQ test.

    So one would assume that a lot of ‘mericans and Canadians donated…:) It is a crime to leave a fool with his money. But it is aimed at elderly women…

    Try to imagine another ethnic group around the world begging publicly for money to bail out their suffering co-patriots. But we don’t have to imagine it, the Ukies have been shamelessly doing it for years…Mr.Hack was boasting that he gives…that figures.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @Beckow

    I actually don't think the point of the ad was to get donations, or at least not the main point. I'm guessing here but I think it's about crafting a narrative of Jewish suffering to advance a political agenda favourable to Israel. I don't know for sure but it seems that this ad just popped up again recently after many years of not being on TV. Maybe not a coincidence with Israel being in a major public relations battle.

    Replies: @LatW

  286. @Matra
    Just as I suspected the Russian soldiers who killed (and apparently raped) Russell Bentley were likely non-whites. Almost every time one reads about Russian soldiers engaging in rape and/or mutilation it ends up being Asians from eastern Russia. Sadly, these are likely the types of Russians who will replace Ukrainians as they conquer new territory. Based Putin indeed.

    I think it is worth noting that Russell and I had a point of disagreement about non-Russians in Russia, with me warning him that they were anti-Russian and up to no good, generally, and Russell declaring, loudly, that they were his brothers against the Fascists. But, being “colorblind” doesn’t make the dangers of dealing with the feral DIEversity go away. There are very many Russians who end up being victims of the DIEversity, regardless of whether or not they pride themselves on being tolerant or not. And speaking out about these ethnic crimes is what gets one labeled a “Neo-Nazi Fascist” by the government and the media in Russia. We can’t control what the elites dictate to us, and the policies that they pass to oppress us, but we can at least stop internalizing their brainwashing and refuse to police ourselves on behalf of the state.
     
    Link

    Needless to say, Russell Bentley was a boomer.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Dmitry

    Russell Bentley was a thorn in the side of the Ukies and their American paymasters for many years. While some may not approve of his perspective or manner of speaking, he had a “salt of the earth” demeanor which came across as genuine and highly reasonable to many people. He was explaining the Ukie attacks on Donbas civilians from a first-hand perspective for many years, long before these crimes became common knowledge in the English-speaking world. With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent. Stirring up trouble within Russia by any and all means available and at every level is a primary task of the ongoing Western project. This murder would fit into that project well. I was surprised he survived as long as he did. He was a child of the Cold War and I think he realized the West was agitating to start World War 3. He was one of a handful of uninvolved men in the entire world who bravely put his life on the line to stop this massive evil. Rest in Peace, Russell.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    I generally prefer to keep personal squabbles away from the intended discussion. Ritter didn't like Bentley even though the latter supported the former in the Lira-Ritter dispute. Bentley is briefly brought up in this recent segment along with a certain girly man pro-Kiev regime advocate getting duped by two Russian pranksters.

    https://rumble.com/v4qdqp2-ask-the-inspector-ep.-153-streams-live-april-23-at-3-pm-et.html

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Matra
    @QCIC


    With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent.
     
    Absolutely no one believes that, including his Russian wife and the DPR.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP, @AnonfromTN

  287. @Derer
    @Mikhail


    US aid won’t be enough to stop Russian forces, Dmitry Kuleba has said
     
    Exactly...the real hideous objective is not to help Ukraine but to reduce the white Slavic population. The US aid is always concocted by the Washington shadow politburo dominated by a tribe that hate Slavs. It is not the sentiment of the American people.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …the real hideous objective is not to help Ukraine but to reduce the white Slavic population.

    That may be true but motivations are hard to prove. Other people may want something bad for you, but at the end of the day it is the Ukies who are lining up like lemmings to die for it. Others wouldn’t fall for it, there is generally a lot more self-preservation in people than what we see in Ukraine.

    After the carnage is done the survivors will claim that they were deceived or that they were too scared. I am not sure which one is worse, being a dumbo or a patsy. One thing we will not see are the surviving Ukies saying “I wish I had gone to the trenches.

    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,… will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,… will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.
     
    Haha, Beckow, just because I disappear from these threads, doesn't mean I'd give up on Ukraine. That's part of my life now and we're in this for the long haul. The reason for "disappearing" would be boredom (or abusive comments).

    A few interesting developments could still take place, hopefully in RF, too (alas, unlike you, I cannot really find "enjoyment" in any of this).

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,… will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.
     
    Don’t you worry, useful idiots will be used by the ruling cabal for other things. These are quintessential sovoks: always sincerely supporting the party line. Valuable material, very useful idiots. They will disappear only when the current cabal is no longer ruling. Not exactly disappear even then, though: they will sincerely support the party line of the next cabal that becomes ruling.

    Replies: @Beckow

  288. @songbird
    Has GR seen this story about new details on Plato?

    https://archive.is/PdCkX
    https://interestingengineering.com/culture/plato-burial-bionic-eye
    https://www.cnr.it/it/nota-stampa/n-12655/lo-sguardo-tecnologico-legge-i-papiri-carbonizzati

    Is it real? That same scroll they started with?

    Replies: @songbird

    Guess it must be a different scroll and group.

    Sounds like they are using an alternative imagining technique.

    Am supposing but must be a lot cheaper and more local which would perhaps remove any political hurdles to getting the scrolls scanned. But OCT doesn’t have the same ability to penetrate as a partical accelerator, so one could not get the full scroll, but only about the first 2 or 3 mm. They say 30% of that particular one, which I think must be their limit on it.

    Top layers could potentially increase the available data by quite a lot. Improve the ML. And allow one to prioritize what scrolls to give the full treatment to, though I don’t think the cost itself is really a huge issue, considering the potential.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @songbird


    This project, which received ERC (European Research Council) funding amounting to 2,498,356 euros, started in 2021 and will last 5 years and eight months, is coordinated by Graziano Ranocchia of the University of Pisa in collaboration with the Institute of cultural heritage sciences (Cnr-Ispc) and the “Antonio Zampolli” Institute of Computational Linguistics (Cnr-Ilc) of the National Research Council, and the National Library of Naples where this papyrus, burned following the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 AD. C, is preserved together with many others.

    The project, in addition to investigating the state of conservation of these artefacts, has the aim of publishing an updated edition - thanks to the application of imaging techniques and philological methods - of Philodemus' Review of the Philosophers, the oldest history of Greek philosophy in our possession. The History of the Academy is part of it, which contains much exclusive information about Plato and the development of the Academy under his successors.

    “Compared to previous editions, there is now an almost radically changed text, implying a number of new and concrete facts about various academic philosophers. Through the new edition and its contextualization, scholars have arrived at unexpected deductions of interdisciplinary scope for ancient philosophy, Greek biography and literature and the history of the book, comments Graziano Ranocchia. “Some previous additions have been replaced, some previously fragmentary passages have been integrated or reread. The increase in text roughly corresponds to the discovery of ten new medium-sized papyrus fragments. The new readings often draw on new and concrete facts about Plato's Academy, Hellenistic literature, Philodemus of Gadara and ancient history in general,” adds Kilian Fleischer, the editor of this precious papyrus as part of the GreekSchools project.
    .........................................
    “The GreekSchools project also aims to develop methods of investigation of manuscripts by applying the most advanced diagnostic imaging techniques available today (infrared and ultraviolet optical imaging, molecular and elemental imaging, thermal imaging, tomography, optical microscopy digital, etc.)”, specifies Costanza Miliani of the Cnr-Ispc. Staff from this Institute, from the Cnr-Scitec and from other European research centres, using mobile instruments from the Molab platform belonging to the European research infrastructure on Heritage Science E-RIHS, apply non-invasive techniques to opisthograph and stratified papyrus order to read text inaccessible on the reverse or hidden within multiple layers.


     

    https://www.cnr.it/it/nota-stampa/n-12655/lo-sguardo-tecnologico-legge-i-papiri-carbonizzati

    Replies: @songbird

  289. Beginning to suspect that Mr. Hack has a blackthorn shillelagh that he handcrafted or inherited from his great grandfather and starting to feel very envious of it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    For anybody else interested, a blackthorn shillelagh is a finely crafted Irish walking stick:

    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.JJWhyh0mLHyNPBBYtb0sxAAAAA?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain

    If I had inherited a walking stick from my grandfather it sould have looked something like this, a hutzul topar:

    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP._fhTMUC47H_p2xIH1M86owHaE8?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain

  290. Of course feel free to follow-up, professor and at least two other regulars.

    https://www.eurasiantimes.com/it-will-be-a-shock-ukraine-lost-500000-soldiers-in-war/

    “It Will Be A Shock”: Ukraine Lost 500,000 Soldiers In War So Far, Nearly 30,000 Per Month: Lutsenko Claims

    Ukraine lost 500,000 soldiers, killed or seriously wounded, since the beginning of the Russian special military operation/invasion, former Prosecutor General and ex-head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Yuriy Lutsenko said on YouTube

  291. @QCIC
    @Matra

    Russell Bentley was a thorn in the side of the Ukies and their American paymasters for many years. While some may not approve of his perspective or manner of speaking, he had a "salt of the earth" demeanor which came across as genuine and highly reasonable to many people. He was explaining the Ukie attacks on Donbas civilians from a first-hand perspective for many years, long before these crimes became common knowledge in the English-speaking world. With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent. Stirring up trouble within Russia by any and all means available and at every level is a primary task of the ongoing Western project. This murder would fit into that project well. I was surprised he survived as long as he did. He was a child of the Cold War and I think he realized the West was agitating to start World War 3. He was one of a handful of uninvolved men in the entire world who bravely put his life on the line to stop this massive evil. Rest in Peace, Russell.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Matra

    I generally prefer to keep personal squabbles away from the intended discussion. Ritter didn’t like Bentley even though the latter supported the former in the Lira-Ritter dispute. Bentley is briefly brought up in this recent segment along with a certain girly man pro-Kiev regime advocate getting duped by two Russian pranksters.

    https://rumble.com/v4qdqp2-ask-the-inspector-ep.-153-streams-live-april-23-at-3-pm-et.html

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    Thanks. At what time in the video do they discuss Bentley?

    I do not know any of these web personages, but I am glad I can learn from them. Like most people I form my opinions on their character based on very limited information. C'est la vie.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  292. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas
     
    And maybe they take more, there are a lot of rural areas in Ukraine that are effectively not defensible at this point. It is really up to how far Russia wants to go. Cities are traps - with no power, water, supplies they can hold out (at huge suffering) for only so long. It has been like that throughout the history. Only Russia's concern for humanity can constrain it. The Frenchie army is not marching in to save anyone.

    At some point even the most fanatical resistance runs out of steam (or live bodies and ammunition). Large parts of Ukraine - maybe majority now - are not pro-Kiev or pro-Russia, they just want the war to be over. See the videos of the Ukie men chased by the draft goons - it is very sad, but it doesn't look like the Ukies want to fight and die anymore. No matter how much Johnson and 'kill all Russians!' maniac Graham want it.

    It will be not be as stalemate. Either a small loss for Kiev-Nato or a bigger one. It was built into the situation from the beginning, you just refused to see it.


    I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough

    I know you don’t. It’s the kind of person you are.
     

    You don't know me, I am usually a pacifist: live and let live. But mistakes have consequences in human evolution: Nato-in-Ukraine was a catastrophic mistake, a very bad idea. That's why you now deny it - it is embarrassing to be that stupid. It takes some time to cure people of bad ideas and some don't make it through the cure.

    It wasn't my preference, I wanted for Ukraine to have peace and normal relations with all neighbors. They chose differently, it has to have consequences, the world is like that.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas

    And maybe they take more, there are a lot of rural areas in Ukraine that are effectively not defensible at this point.

    Not really. Otherwise Russia would be moving a lot faster and more easily, without mass casualties.

    Neither side would be able to take the big cities on the map:

    Cities are traps – with no power, water, supplies they can hold out (at huge suffering) for only so long.

    Besieging and surrounding a large city like Kharkiv would take what – a million soldiers?

    This isn’t World War II.

    Large parts of Ukraine – maybe majority now – are not pro-Kiev or pro-Russia, they just want the war to be over

    So says the guy who insisted Ukrainians would surrender in a few weeks.

    Another example of your deep knowledge of the country.

    It will be not be as stalemate. Either a small loss for Kiev-Nato or a bigger one

    Prediction: you will creatively interpret a stalemate as a Russian victory.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @AP

    Why the hell you oppose anything that favour Russia and without any substantial argument...all just superficial nonsense. Russia is going nowhere it will remain big and rich with abundance of natural resource - has a great future.

    So far the simpleminded hawks from Washington are able to partially retard the expected progress in Russia after 75 years of communist tyranny but not for long, they themselves are going the opposite direction, regressing. I know, I am witnessing the work of "great" minds like Biden, Blinken or Schumer.

    Replies: @AP, @Greasy William

  293. @Beckow
    @Matra


    ...It was also a bit of an IQ test.
     
    So one would assume that a lot of 'mericans and Canadians donated...:) It is a crime to leave a fool with his money. But it is aimed at elderly women...

    Try to imagine another ethnic group around the world begging publicly for money to bail out their suffering co-patriots. But we don't have to imagine it, the Ukies have been shamelessly doing it for years...Mr.Hack was boasting that he gives...that figures.

    Replies: @Matra

    I actually don’t think the point of the ad was to get donations, or at least not the main point. I’m guessing here but I think it’s about crafting a narrative of Jewish suffering to advance a political agenda favourable to Israel. I don’t know for sure but it seems that this ad just popped up again recently after many years of not being on TV. Maybe not a coincidence with Israel being in a major public relations battle.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Matra


    I don’t know for sure but it seems that this ad just popped up again recently after many years of not being on TV.
     
    They were running on the cable 4 or 5 years ago (have stopped watching cable since then, so don't know if they're still running, probably). What struck me a bit (and what I find even kind of funny), is that these were black and white ads that tried to portray Eastern Europe as this gloomy place where these old Jewish ladies had been left behind. Of course, the poor should be helped but there are orgs in the EE that help and give out similar packages. The Jewish community also received some restitution money. They have their own charities as well. I'm not sure about Ukraine and Russia, but in the Baltic States elderly Jews don't really look like in those ads (they're much better taken care of). These videos gave off a kind of a Boraty vibe. Jews can be funny sometimes with their "creativity".

    Israel lacked food back when the US was not yet helping Israel and Israel went through the rough times alone (the 1950s, 60s) when the state was being set up and when they fought the Arabs. But they might need food now, and especially the Gazans. Their farming sector which was quite inventive, has taken a hit. So maybe those ads make sense now, but a few years back they seemed a bit out of place. From an E.Euro perspective, they seem like a stark contrast with reality. But these types of ads go with that whole grievance genre. And as I said - times are harder now, so maybe some Jews in Ukraine need this (many affluent folks have bailed Ukraine, although their volunteer networks are more robust now than ever before).

    Not everyone is buying it though, the Gen X are like "yea, right", the young probably don't care, it might be geared towards the 55+ Hannity audience. Maybe Americans, who sometimes can be naive and not fully informed about overseas, simply like passing out food, they've done this on many occasions, they even sent food over to the Baltics during the Civil War years after the revolution.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

  294. @QCIC
    @Matra

    Russell Bentley was a thorn in the side of the Ukies and their American paymasters for many years. While some may not approve of his perspective or manner of speaking, he had a "salt of the earth" demeanor which came across as genuine and highly reasonable to many people. He was explaining the Ukie attacks on Donbas civilians from a first-hand perspective for many years, long before these crimes became common knowledge in the English-speaking world. With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent. Stirring up trouble within Russia by any and all means available and at every level is a primary task of the ongoing Western project. This murder would fit into that project well. I was surprised he survived as long as he did. He was a child of the Cold War and I think he realized the West was agitating to start World War 3. He was one of a handful of uninvolved men in the entire world who bravely put his life on the line to stop this massive evil. Rest in Peace, Russell.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Matra

    With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent.

    Absolutely no one believes that, including his Russian wife and the DPR.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Matra

    My point was not to convince you, but to remind us that we have no idea what really happened with Prigozhin or at Kakhovka or to the Moskva or with a thousand other events in this conflict. Truth is the first casualty in war. The Western-Ukraine propaganda is industrialized to the highest level in history. The patterns we read about and watch in videos may tell us something, but the forces which created the patterns may take decades to come to light, if ever.

    I skimmed your original link and a few things seemed off so I proposed an alternate hypothesis. For sure lots of people thought Bentley could have been murdered long ago. I agree the link has a great picture of some nasty-looking Buryats. I think these are the guys who planted the demon seed in the Russians long ago, or something like that. None of that excuses NATO expansion, the US dropping nuclear arms control treaties or any of the aggressive Western moves which led directly to this mess.

    We have no idea, actually zero, what his distraught wife would or could say in an encounter with the press, the government or even her family. Literally zero. We are all corrupted by Hollywood plus Youtube leading us to believe we know what is going on. More than half a million men have been shot, burned and blown up within a few hundred miles of her home in the past two years. Most likely she recognizes the West is doing this solely to break Russia.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @AP
    @Matra

    The belief that Ukrainians did it and the Russians and the man’s own widow are covering it up appeals to low information low trust people.

    The only potential difference from the generally accepted observation is that Bentley wasn’t tortured for a few days and killed because he was thought to be a spy, but rather he was tortured and killed because the Russian (Buryat) troops were angry and frustrated and took their anger out on this foreign idiot who showed up at the wrong time.

    He was detained right after a missile strike that killed a lot of Russian troops; he came into the scene soon afterward to help, this Western idiot who cheerleads the war. We know Russians mistreat Serb volunteers, how would they treat this fat moron? Of course, claiming they thought he was a spy would help them get off lightly (or avoid punishment entirely) for what they did. No malice, just an honest mistake done for patriotic reasons.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Matra


    Just as I suspected the Russian soldiers who killed (and apparently raped) Russell Bentley
     
    1. Source of info?
    2. Where does this source get funding (he who pays the musicians calls the tune)?

    Absolutely no one believes that, including his Russian wife and the DPR.
     
    People believed all sorts of preposterous things for thousands of years. Beliefs do not constitute proof.
  295. @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    I generally prefer to keep personal squabbles away from the intended discussion. Ritter didn't like Bentley even though the latter supported the former in the Lira-Ritter dispute. Bentley is briefly brought up in this recent segment along with a certain girly man pro-Kiev regime advocate getting duped by two Russian pranksters.

    https://rumble.com/v4qdqp2-ask-the-inspector-ep.-153-streams-live-april-23-at-3-pm-et.html

    Replies: @QCIC

    Thanks. At what time in the video do they discuss Bentley?

    I do not know any of these web personages, but I am glad I can learn from them. Like most people I form my opinions on their character based on very limited information. C’est la vie.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    Sorry to not have bookmarked it. You'll have to scroll around. Pretty good show. Among the highlights, he sarcastically mocks a Brit sovok leaning questioner.

    Replies: @QCIC

  296. @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    Thanks. At what time in the video do they discuss Bentley?

    I do not know any of these web personages, but I am glad I can learn from them. Like most people I form my opinions on their character based on very limited information. C'est la vie.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Sorry to not have bookmarked it. You’ll have to scroll around. Pretty good show. Among the highlights, he sarcastically mocks a Brit sovok leaning questioner.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    Ritter on Bentley at 41:00. After reading the Rolling Stone interview I understand there is plenty the two might disagree over. As I wrote to Matra, we don't know these guys.

  297. @songbird
    Beginning to suspect that Mr. Hack has a blackthorn shillelagh that he handcrafted or inherited from his great grandfather and starting to feel very envious of it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    For anybody else interested, a blackthorn shillelagh is a finely crafted Irish walking stick:

    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.JJWhyh0mLHyNPBBYtb0sxAAAAA?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain

    If I had inherited a walking stick from my grandfather it sould have looked something like this, a hutzul topar:

    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP._fhTMUC47H_p2xIH1M86owHaE8?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain

    • Thanks: songbird
  298. @Beckow
    @Derer


    ...the real hideous objective is not to help Ukraine but to reduce the white Slavic population.
     
    That may be true but motivations are hard to prove. Other people may want something bad for you, but at the end of the day it is the Ukies who are lining up like lemmings to die for it. Others wouldn't fall for it, there is generally a lot more self-preservation in people than what we see in Ukraine.

    After the carnage is done the survivors will claim that they were deceived or that they were too scared. I am not sure which one is worse, being a dumbo or a patsy. One thing we will not see are the surviving Ukies saying "I wish I had gone to the trenches."

    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,... will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,… will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.

    Haha, Beckow, just because I disappear from these threads, doesn’t mean I’d give up on Ukraine. That’s part of my life now and we’re in this for the long haul. The reason for “disappearing” would be boredom (or abusive comments).

    A few interesting developments could still take place, hopefully in RF, too (alas, unlike you, I cannot really find “enjoyment” in any of this).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW

    We are at the beginning. How it plays out is predictable but will have surprises. Questions remain.

    What will happen to Transnistria? Will Cichanovskaia and Guidado ever make it official? Maybe on Miami beach with the Senator Graham officiating? Will Zelina ever play the piano for us again? Who gets Kiev. So stick around. Something could happen in Moscow to make you happy - so many Tajiks to hire for what you called 'the second front'...blood and hatred feed on each other. And then when it is over everyone is slightly embarrassed.

    Life has to be enjoyed, not endured. Look into that idea.

  299. @Matra
    @QCIC


    With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent.
     
    Absolutely no one believes that, including his Russian wife and the DPR.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    My point was not to convince you, but to remind us that we have no idea what really happened with Prigozhin or at Kakhovka or to the Moskva or with a thousand other events in this conflict. Truth is the first casualty in war. The Western-Ukraine propaganda is industrialized to the highest level in history. The patterns we read about and watch in videos may tell us something, but the forces which created the patterns may take decades to come to light, if ever.

    I skimmed your original link and a few things seemed off so I proposed an alternate hypothesis. For sure lots of people thought Bentley could have been murdered long ago. I agree the link has a great picture of some nasty-looking Buryats. I think these are the guys who planted the demon seed in the Russians long ago, or something like that. None of that excuses NATO expansion, the US dropping nuclear arms control treaties or any of the aggressive Western moves which led directly to this mess.

    We have no idea, actually zero, what his distraught wife would or could say in an encounter with the press, the government or even her family. Literally zero. We are all corrupted by Hollywood plus Youtube leading us to believe we know what is going on. More than half a million men have been shot, burned and blown up within a few hundred miles of her home in the past two years. Most likely she recognizes the West is doing this solely to break Russia.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC

    The MO is typical of the Russian penal system - that kind of barbarity is a systemic thing. It's not the Ukrainian MO. Of course, if this is true, it's a horrible, undeserved death. Most Americans are not prepared for that type of brutality in real life.

    Replies: @LatW

  300. @Matra
    @Beckow

    I actually don't think the point of the ad was to get donations, or at least not the main point. I'm guessing here but I think it's about crafting a narrative of Jewish suffering to advance a political agenda favourable to Israel. I don't know for sure but it seems that this ad just popped up again recently after many years of not being on TV. Maybe not a coincidence with Israel being in a major public relations battle.

    Replies: @LatW

    I don’t know for sure but it seems that this ad just popped up again recently after many years of not being on TV.

    They were running on the cable 4 or 5 years ago (have stopped watching cable since then, so don’t know if they’re still running, probably). What struck me a bit (and what I find even kind of funny), is that these were black and white ads that tried to portray Eastern Europe as this gloomy place where these old Jewish ladies had been left behind. Of course, the poor should be helped but there are orgs in the EE that help and give out similar packages. The Jewish community also received some restitution money. They have their own charities as well. I’m not sure about Ukraine and Russia, but in the Baltic States elderly Jews don’t really look like in those ads (they’re much better taken care of). These videos gave off a kind of a Boraty vibe. Jews can be funny sometimes with their “creativity”.

    Israel lacked food back when the US was not yet helping Israel and Israel went through the rough times alone (the 1950s, 60s) when the state was being set up and when they fought the Arabs. But they might need food now, and especially the Gazans. Their farming sector which was quite inventive, has taken a hit. So maybe those ads make sense now, but a few years back they seemed a bit out of place. From an E.Euro perspective, they seem like a stark contrast with reality. But these types of ads go with that whole grievance genre. And as I said – times are harder now, so maybe some Jews in Ukraine need this (many affluent folks have bailed Ukraine, although their volunteer networks are more robust now than ever before).

    Not everyone is buying it though, the Gen X are like “yea, right”, the young probably don’t care, it might be geared towards the 55+ Hannity audience. Maybe Americans, who sometimes can be naive and not fully informed about overseas, simply like passing out food, they’ve done this on many occasions, they even sent food over to the Baltics during the Civil War years after the revolution.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW


    What struck me a bit (and what I find even kind of funny), is that these were black and white ads that tried to portray Eastern Europe as this gloomy place where these old Jewish ladies had been left behind.
     
    Like almost everything on television those ads are for the credulous. Who doesn't know the east Europe folks exterminated all their Jews?

    That's what they advertise in the exclusive brochures. "Come to beautiful Riga! We got rid of the f*cking Jews!"
    , @Dmitry
    @LatW


    Baltic States
     
    Because Baltic States are like the equivalent to Norway of the postsoviet states. After the 1990s, Baltic states recovered to multiple times higher GDP per capita than Ukraine. They have working governments with EU monitoring, they don't have wars or even political instability for thirty years.

    They are part of the EU internal market and received tens of billions of dollars direct transfers from the EU.

    Ukraine has war, political instability, corruption, industrial collapse. As the result Ukraine has tens of millions of poor people.
    -

    What happens with Ukraine is a scary failure of history. Not so many years in the past, the USSR was supposed to save the world.


    the Baltic States elderly Jews don’t really look like in those ads (they’re much better taken care of). These videos gave off a kind of a Boraty vibe.

     

    The number of Baltic Jews is smaller than the population of Izium. They can be urbanized middle class populations, but probably most of their infrastructure funded with support of external-donations, including maybe holocaust restitution from the German government, donations from wealthy American Jews.

    These a very small communities, but I have seen each of the three Baltic Jewish communities have multiple shiny schools with digital classroom equipment, though the population is a minority of a minority?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1e8RSqfJY.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgYIq6IwlgA.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdAIi_46Gc.

    I guess that's external donations funding not different than in Ukraine.

    Replies: @LatW, @sudden death

  301. @QCIC
    @Matra

    My point was not to convince you, but to remind us that we have no idea what really happened with Prigozhin or at Kakhovka or to the Moskva or with a thousand other events in this conflict. Truth is the first casualty in war. The Western-Ukraine propaganda is industrialized to the highest level in history. The patterns we read about and watch in videos may tell us something, but the forces which created the patterns may take decades to come to light, if ever.

    I skimmed your original link and a few things seemed off so I proposed an alternate hypothesis. For sure lots of people thought Bentley could have been murdered long ago. I agree the link has a great picture of some nasty-looking Buryats. I think these are the guys who planted the demon seed in the Russians long ago, or something like that. None of that excuses NATO expansion, the US dropping nuclear arms control treaties or any of the aggressive Western moves which led directly to this mess.

    We have no idea, actually zero, what his distraught wife would or could say in an encounter with the press, the government or even her family. Literally zero. We are all corrupted by Hollywood plus Youtube leading us to believe we know what is going on. More than half a million men have been shot, burned and blown up within a few hundred miles of her home in the past two years. Most likely she recognizes the West is doing this solely to break Russia.

    Replies: @LatW

    The MO is typical of the Russian penal system – that kind of barbarity is a systemic thing. It’s not the Ukrainian MO. Of course, if this is true, it’s a horrible, undeserved death. Most Americans are not prepared for that type of brutality in real life.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @LatW

    That said, it is also kind of ironic - the Russian world got him. With all the non-Russians in their ranks, there is more license during such a large war than usual (we don't see the worst but it's there, it's on Telegram). I wonder if he participated in combat and was actually shooting at Ukrainians.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  302. @LatW
    @QCIC

    The MO is typical of the Russian penal system - that kind of barbarity is a systemic thing. It's not the Ukrainian MO. Of course, if this is true, it's a horrible, undeserved death. Most Americans are not prepared for that type of brutality in real life.

    Replies: @LatW

    That said, it is also kind of ironic – the Russian world got him. With all the non-Russians in their ranks, there is more license during such a large war than usual (we don’t see the worst but it’s there, it’s on Telegram). I wonder if he participated in combat and was actually shooting at Ukrainians.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    The most amazing part is that we don’t see more of this from Americans drawn to fight there on both sides.

    The main thing about Ukraine as the Germans found is not to get buried there with your Kameraden.

    An entire generation of Barbarossans vanished in the Black Mud.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  303. @AP
    @Beckow


    Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas

    And maybe they take more, there are a lot of rural areas in Ukraine that are effectively not defensible at this point.
     
    Not really. Otherwise Russia would be moving a lot faster and more easily, without mass casualties.

    Neither side would be able to take the big cities on the map:

    https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/static/maps/UP-map.jpg

    Cities are traps – with no power, water, supplies they can hold out (at huge suffering) for only so long.
     
    Besieging and surrounding a large city like Kharkiv would take what - a million soldiers?

    This isn't World War II.

    Large parts of Ukraine – maybe majority now – are not pro-Kiev or pro-Russia, they just want the war to be over
     
    So says the guy who insisted Ukrainians would surrender in a few weeks.

    Another example of your deep knowledge of the country.

    It will be not be as stalemate. Either a small loss for Kiev-Nato or a bigger one
     
    Prediction: you will creatively interpret a stalemate as a Russian victory.

    Replies: @Derer

    Why the hell you oppose anything that favour Russia and without any substantial argument…all just superficial nonsense. Russia is going nowhere it will remain big and rich with abundance of natural resource – has a great future.

    So far the simpleminded hawks from Washington are able to partially retard the expected progress in Russia after 75 years of communist tyranny but not for long, they themselves are going the opposite direction, regressing. I know, I am witnessing the work of “great” minds like Biden, Blinken or Schumer.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Derer


    So far the simpleminded hawks from Washington are able to partially retard the expected progress in Russia after 75 years of communist tyranny
     
    Putin retarded Russia’s progress when he grabbed Crimea in 2014. Russia recovered by 2021 (would have earlier if not for Covid), but he did it again in 2022.

    And some Russians are proud that they screwed Ukraine even more but this is like the parable about the peasant who was granted any wish on the condition that his neighbor would get double. The peasant wished that he would lose one eye.

    The years 2010-2014 (and maybe 2021) will be fondly remembered as a Golden Age for Russia. Russians were about as rich as Poles back then, even a bit richer in 2013 when taking into account purchase power:

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?locations=RU-PL

    It will take a long time if ever for Russia to return to that. Not sure if living off Chinese scraps will be so great.

    Replies: @Derer

    , @Greasy William
    @Derer


    Russia is going nowhere it will remain big and rich with abundance of natural resource – has a great future
     
    Not a Russophobe, but I really don't think so.

    I do think they are gonna win this war pretty shortly, however
  304. @LatW
    @LatW

    That said, it is also kind of ironic - the Russian world got him. With all the non-Russians in their ranks, there is more license during such a large war than usual (we don't see the worst but it's there, it's on Telegram). I wonder if he participated in combat and was actually shooting at Ukrainians.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    The most amazing part is that we don’t see more of this from Americans drawn to fight there on both sides.

    The main thing about Ukraine as the Germans found is not to get buried there with your Kameraden.

    An entire generation of Barbarossans vanished in the Black Mud.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke


    An entire generation of Barbarossans vanished in the Black Mud.
     
    Many just blended in and married some of the beautiful local gals and were able to put their many talents to use in rebuilding Ukraine. Sure are a lot of tall, blond haired Ukrainians within Ukraine. Charles XII left his imprint much earlier. My 93 year old roommate has told me a lot of tales a about this Germanization of Ukraine...

    Replies: @LatW

  305. @songbird
    @songbird

    Guess it must be a different scroll and group.

    Sounds like they are using an alternative imagining technique.

    Am supposing but must be a lot cheaper and more local which would perhaps remove any political hurdles to getting the scrolls scanned. But OCT doesn't have the same ability to penetrate as a partical accelerator, so one could not get the full scroll, but only about the first 2 or 3 mm. They say 30% of that particular one, which I think must be their limit on it.

    Top layers could potentially increase the available data by quite a lot. Improve the ML. And allow one to prioritize what scrolls to give the full treatment to, though I don't think the cost itself is really a huge issue, considering the potential.

    Replies: @sudden death

    This project, which received ERC (European Research Council) funding amounting to 2,498,356 euros, started in 2021 and will last 5 years and eight months, is coordinated by Graziano Ranocchia of the University of Pisa in collaboration with the Institute of cultural heritage sciences (Cnr-Ispc) and the “Antonio Zampolli” Institute of Computational Linguistics (Cnr-Ilc) of the National Research Council, and the National Library of Naples where this papyrus, burned following the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 AD. C, is preserved together with many others.

    The project, in addition to investigating the state of conservation of these artefacts, has the aim of publishing an updated edition – thanks to the application of imaging techniques and philological methods – of Philodemus’ Review of the Philosophers, the oldest history of Greek philosophy in our possession. The History of the Academy is part of it, which contains much exclusive information about Plato and the development of the Academy under his successors.

    “Compared to previous editions, there is now an almost radically changed text, implying a number of new and concrete facts about various academic philosophers. Through the new edition and its contextualization, scholars have arrived at unexpected deductions of interdisciplinary scope for ancient philosophy, Greek biography and literature and the history of the book, comments Graziano Ranocchia. “Some previous additions have been replaced, some previously fragmentary passages have been integrated or reread. The increase in text roughly corresponds to the discovery of ten new medium-sized papyrus fragments. The new readings often draw on new and concrete facts about Plato’s Academy, Hellenistic literature, Philodemus of Gadara and ancient history in general,” adds Kilian Fleischer, the editor of this precious papyrus as part of the GreekSchools project.
    …………………………………..
    “The GreekSchools project also aims to develop methods of investigation of manuscripts by applying the most advanced diagnostic imaging techniques available today (infrared and ultraviolet optical imaging, molecular and elemental imaging, thermal imaging, tomography, optical microscopy digital, etc.)”, specifies Costanza Miliani of the Cnr-Ispc. Staff from this Institute, from the Cnr-Scitec and from other European research centres, using mobile instruments from the Molab platform belonging to the European research infrastructure on Heritage Science E-RIHS, apply non-invasive techniques to opisthograph and stratified papyrus order to read text inaccessible on the reverse or hidden within multiple layers.

    https://www.cnr.it/it/nota-stampa/n-12655/lo-sguardo-tecnologico-legge-i-papiri-carbonizzati

    • Replies: @songbird
    @sudden death

    It's pretty confusing, but I think that they must be referring to a scroll that was already physically unrolled and is in fragments. (Assuming pictures are relevant.) Perhaps the OCT technique wouldn't work on a rolled scroll? Though I am not sure about this as it used by optometrists.

    Tangential, but I noticed Musk or his foundation donated to the Vesuvius prize, I think recently. But, unless I am mistaken, I don't think Zuckerberg ever has, even though he has said he is a great fan of the classics.

    The Vesuvius Challenge people haven't commented on this OCT stuff on their official channels, so hard to say what impact, if any, it might have on digital unrolling.

  306. US Treasury yields approaching 5% again, job losses accelerating as the election approaches.

  307. @sudden death
    @songbird


    This project, which received ERC (European Research Council) funding amounting to 2,498,356 euros, started in 2021 and will last 5 years and eight months, is coordinated by Graziano Ranocchia of the University of Pisa in collaboration with the Institute of cultural heritage sciences (Cnr-Ispc) and the “Antonio Zampolli” Institute of Computational Linguistics (Cnr-Ilc) of the National Research Council, and the National Library of Naples where this papyrus, burned following the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 AD. C, is preserved together with many others.

    The project, in addition to investigating the state of conservation of these artefacts, has the aim of publishing an updated edition - thanks to the application of imaging techniques and philological methods - of Philodemus' Review of the Philosophers, the oldest history of Greek philosophy in our possession. The History of the Academy is part of it, which contains much exclusive information about Plato and the development of the Academy under his successors.

    “Compared to previous editions, there is now an almost radically changed text, implying a number of new and concrete facts about various academic philosophers. Through the new edition and its contextualization, scholars have arrived at unexpected deductions of interdisciplinary scope for ancient philosophy, Greek biography and literature and the history of the book, comments Graziano Ranocchia. “Some previous additions have been replaced, some previously fragmentary passages have been integrated or reread. The increase in text roughly corresponds to the discovery of ten new medium-sized papyrus fragments. The new readings often draw on new and concrete facts about Plato's Academy, Hellenistic literature, Philodemus of Gadara and ancient history in general,” adds Kilian Fleischer, the editor of this precious papyrus as part of the GreekSchools project.
    .........................................
    “The GreekSchools project also aims to develop methods of investigation of manuscripts by applying the most advanced diagnostic imaging techniques available today (infrared and ultraviolet optical imaging, molecular and elemental imaging, thermal imaging, tomography, optical microscopy digital, etc.)”, specifies Costanza Miliani of the Cnr-Ispc. Staff from this Institute, from the Cnr-Scitec and from other European research centres, using mobile instruments from the Molab platform belonging to the European research infrastructure on Heritage Science E-RIHS, apply non-invasive techniques to opisthograph and stratified papyrus order to read text inaccessible on the reverse or hidden within multiple layers.


     

    https://www.cnr.it/it/nota-stampa/n-12655/lo-sguardo-tecnologico-legge-i-papiri-carbonizzati

    Replies: @songbird

    It’s pretty confusing, but I think that they must be referring to a scroll that was already physically unrolled and is in fragments. (Assuming pictures are relevant.) Perhaps the OCT technique wouldn’t work on a rolled scroll? Though I am not sure about this as it used by optometrists.

    Tangential, but I noticed Musk or his foundation donated to the Vesuvius prize, I think recently. But, unless I am mistaken, I don’t think Zuckerberg ever has, even though he has said he is a great fan of the classics.

    The Vesuvius Challenge people haven’t commented on this OCT stuff on their official channels, so hard to say what impact, if any, it might have on digital unrolling.

  308. @Matra
    @QCIC


    With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent.
     
    Absolutely no one believes that, including his Russian wife and the DPR.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    The belief that Ukrainians did it and the Russians and the man’s own widow are covering it up appeals to low information low trust people.

    The only potential difference from the generally accepted observation is that Bentley wasn’t tortured for a few days and killed because he was thought to be a spy, but rather he was tortured and killed because the Russian (Buryat) troops were angry and frustrated and took their anger out on this foreign idiot who showed up at the wrong time.

    He was detained right after a missile strike that killed a lot of Russian troops; he came into the scene soon afterward to help, this Western idiot who cheerleads the war. We know Russians mistreat Serb volunteers, how would they treat this fat moron? Of course, claiming they thought he was a spy would help them get off lightly (or avoid punishment entirely) for what they did. No malice, just an honest mistake done for patriotic reasons.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    Ghost of Kyiv

    Replies: @AP

  309. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Johnny, You should know that NATO in Finland is actually more detrimental to Finland than Russia. Joining sinking ship instead of neutrality is really stupid for Finland. In NATO, everything is done under duress and the duress-or resides in Washington.

    The cohesion is fragile actually even arms calibration is different among members and the bickering is increasing by the day because of the money and purpose. The end is near, actually the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the moment.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

    the cold war relic is drifting aimlessly at the lunder moment.

    Pure bunk. Where are the Warsaw pact nations today? In the dustbin of history, whereas MATO, thanks to Russia’s big blunder in attacking Ukraine, has become revitalized. This is clear to see, and needs no long explanations to make it any clearer.

  310. AP says:
    @Derer
    @AP

    Why the hell you oppose anything that favour Russia and without any substantial argument...all just superficial nonsense. Russia is going nowhere it will remain big and rich with abundance of natural resource - has a great future.

    So far the simpleminded hawks from Washington are able to partially retard the expected progress in Russia after 75 years of communist tyranny but not for long, they themselves are going the opposite direction, regressing. I know, I am witnessing the work of "great" minds like Biden, Blinken or Schumer.

    Replies: @AP, @Greasy William

    So far the simpleminded hawks from Washington are able to partially retard the expected progress in Russia after 75 years of communist tyranny

    Putin retarded Russia’s progress when he grabbed Crimea in 2014. Russia recovered by 2021 (would have earlier if not for Covid), but he did it again in 2022.

    And some Russians are proud that they screwed Ukraine even more but this is like the parable about the peasant who was granted any wish on the condition that his neighbor would get double. The peasant wished that he would lose one eye.

    The years 2010-2014 (and maybe 2021) will be fondly remembered as a Golden Age for Russia. Russians were about as rich as Poles back then, even a bit richer in 2013 when taking into account purchase power:

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?locations=RU-PL

    It will take a long time if ever for Russia to return to that. Not sure if living off Chinese scraps will be so great.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Derer
    @AP


    Putin retarded Russia’s progress when he grabbed Crimea in 2014.
     
    It was Communist politburo in 1954 that grabbed Crimea from Russia. You have convenient gaps in history. It was Putin's duty to get it back by referendum when Washington warmongers in 2014 wanted to put military base there.

    US sanctions, assets theft and arming Ukraine has elevated the Washington sinister players to enemy status #1 and now prime target of ballistic missiles including nuclear. The Russian public opinion is all behind that undertaking. Restoration of good relations is destroyed for generations, especially after cowardly state terrorism on Russian civilian pipeline, bridges or concert. The culprits will pay dearly for those atrocities.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  311. @LatW
    @Matra


    I don’t know for sure but it seems that this ad just popped up again recently after many years of not being on TV.
     
    They were running on the cable 4 or 5 years ago (have stopped watching cable since then, so don't know if they're still running, probably). What struck me a bit (and what I find even kind of funny), is that these were black and white ads that tried to portray Eastern Europe as this gloomy place where these old Jewish ladies had been left behind. Of course, the poor should be helped but there are orgs in the EE that help and give out similar packages. The Jewish community also received some restitution money. They have their own charities as well. I'm not sure about Ukraine and Russia, but in the Baltic States elderly Jews don't really look like in those ads (they're much better taken care of). These videos gave off a kind of a Boraty vibe. Jews can be funny sometimes with their "creativity".

    Israel lacked food back when the US was not yet helping Israel and Israel went through the rough times alone (the 1950s, 60s) when the state was being set up and when they fought the Arabs. But they might need food now, and especially the Gazans. Their farming sector which was quite inventive, has taken a hit. So maybe those ads make sense now, but a few years back they seemed a bit out of place. From an E.Euro perspective, they seem like a stark contrast with reality. But these types of ads go with that whole grievance genre. And as I said - times are harder now, so maybe some Jews in Ukraine need this (many affluent folks have bailed Ukraine, although their volunteer networks are more robust now than ever before).

    Not everyone is buying it though, the Gen X are like "yea, right", the young probably don't care, it might be geared towards the 55+ Hannity audience. Maybe Americans, who sometimes can be naive and not fully informed about overseas, simply like passing out food, they've done this on many occasions, they even sent food over to the Baltics during the Civil War years after the revolution.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    What struck me a bit (and what I find even kind of funny), is that these were black and white ads that tried to portray Eastern Europe as this gloomy place where these old Jewish ladies had been left behind.

    Like almost everything on television those ads are for the credulous. Who doesn’t know the east Europe folks exterminated all their Jews?

    That’s what they advertise in the exclusive brochures. “Come to beautiful Riga! We got rid of the f*cking Jews!”

  312. @A123
    @Mikel

    Let me recap the situation: (1)


    Former President Trump muddied the waters with his support of Johnson, “Trump says he thinks Speaker Mike Johnson is ‘doing a very good job’ amid ouster threat from Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

    I doubt this is some form of 5D chess from Trump; it is only the simple reality that if Johnson is ousted and Democrats take control of the House, Trump's November election is over.

    Remember the U.S. Supreme Court decision on “insurrection” claimed by the Colorado Supreme Court? The March 4 decision stated:

    The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made. The relevant provision is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course to judicial review, to pass “appropriate legislation” to “enforce” the Fourteenth Amendment.
     
    In other words, Congress, by a simple majority, can pass a bill claiming that Trump is disqualified from the election due to being an “insurrectionist.” That would be the first order of business by a Democrat-controlled House. The Senate would pass the House bill and President Biden would sign it.

    If you don’t believe the Democrats would try to disqualify Trump in this manner, a bill introduced by Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin is already teed up.

    Per Axios:

    Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment.

    "We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court's decision," Raskin said.

    Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an "insurrection" and that those involved "engaged in insurrection."
     
    The SCOTUS decision mentioned, “Subject of course to judicial review.” Would that stop such a scheme? Why would SCOTUS block such an act of Congress that they green-lighted in their recent decision?

    This would explain Trump supporting Johnson. Does Rep. MTG realize how this could play out? Is she acting out of principle, or is this a backhanded way of undermining Trump? This is where the 5D chess machinations come in. Washington, D.C., is indeed a swamp.
     
    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    Do you really believe that SCOTUS would go out of their way to do the right thing?
    ____

    I too share your dismay at the idiotic bill that passed the House. However, fighting tomorrow requires surviving today. Preemptively capitulating by helping guaranteed loser RFKjr is obviously unwise.

    You can say that Trump us an imperfect choice... But please tell me you realize he is the best and only choice that has a chance at defeating the Veggie-In-Chief this November.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/04/how_do_you_solve_a_problem_like_mike_johnson.html

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

    So, supporting Johnson (Ukraine defense spending guy) is ultimately beneficial for Trump’s reelection bid. Can we expect you to also make an about face and support Johnson and his support for Ukraine, like your superman Trump has done? In case you need a reminder about how things are going:
    Looks like Trump has effectively put you and your stupid “Russia’s defensive war” out of business! 🙂

    Stick to smearing Islamo-Soros, he’s even creepier than Trump…

  313. Giant, “saber-toothed” salmon:
    https://www.livescience.com/animals/extinct-species/giant-prehistoric-salmon-had-tusk-like-teeth-just-like-a-warthogs

    Imagine trying to cross a river and having some 8 foot long salmon leap and gore you with its warthog tusks.

    But perhaps, they weren’t that dangerous.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I've seen big sturgeon up close caught within the St.Croix river in MN, a truly pre-historic fish that's still around. Their ridged or humped backs are kind of creepy looking.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oIvr6f0k7uY/maxresdefault.jpg

  314. @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    Sorry to not have bookmarked it. You'll have to scroll around. Pretty good show. Among the highlights, he sarcastically mocks a Brit sovok leaning questioner.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Ritter on Bentley at 41:00. After reading the Rolling Stone interview I understand there is plenty the two might disagree over. As I wrote to Matra, we don’t know these guys.

  315. @songbird
    Giant, "saber-toothed" salmon:
    https://www.livescience.com/animals/extinct-species/giant-prehistoric-salmon-had-tusk-like-teeth-just-like-a-warthogs

    Imagine trying to cross a river and having some 8 foot long salmon leap and gore you with its warthog tusks.

    But perhaps, they weren't that dangerous.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I’ve seen big sturgeon up close caught within the St.Croix river in MN, a truly pre-historic fish that’s still around. Their ridged or humped backs are kind of creepy looking.

    • Thanks: songbird
  316. @AP
    @Matra

    The belief that Ukrainians did it and the Russians and the man’s own widow are covering it up appeals to low information low trust people.

    The only potential difference from the generally accepted observation is that Bentley wasn’t tortured for a few days and killed because he was thought to be a spy, but rather he was tortured and killed because the Russian (Buryat) troops were angry and frustrated and took their anger out on this foreign idiot who showed up at the wrong time.

    He was detained right after a missile strike that killed a lot of Russian troops; he came into the scene soon afterward to help, this Western idiot who cheerleads the war. We know Russians mistreat Serb volunteers, how would they treat this fat moron? Of course, claiming they thought he was a spy would help them get off lightly (or avoid punishment entirely) for what they did. No malice, just an honest mistake done for patriotic reasons.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Ghost of Kyiv

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC

    Biolabs. Deadly birds. Organ harvesting. Kiev in 3 days. Feint. Goodwill gesture. Collapse in summer 2022. Collapse in summer 2023. 500,000 Ukrainian dead.

  317. @QCIC
    @AP

    Ghost of Kyiv

    Replies: @AP

    Biolabs. Deadly birds. Organ harvesting. Kiev in 3 days. Feint. Goodwill gesture. Collapse in summer 2022. Collapse in summer 2023. 500,000 Ukrainian dead.

  318. @Beckow
    @Derer


    ...the real hideous objective is not to help Ukraine but to reduce the white Slavic population.
     
    That may be true but motivations are hard to prove. Other people may want something bad for you, but at the end of the day it is the Ukies who are lining up like lemmings to die for it. Others wouldn't fall for it, there is generally a lot more self-preservation in people than what we see in Ukraine.

    After the carnage is done the survivors will claim that they were deceived or that they were too scared. I am not sure which one is worse, being a dumbo or a patsy. One thing we will not see are the surviving Ukies saying "I wish I had gone to the trenches."

    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,... will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,… will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.

    Don’t you worry, useful idiots will be used by the ruling cabal for other things. These are quintessential sovoks: always sincerely supporting the party line. Valuable material, very useful idiots. They will disappear only when the current cabal is no longer ruling. Not exactly disappear even then, though: they will sincerely support the party line of the next cabal that becomes ruling.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The cabals come and go and mid-wits adjust. What is a "sovok"? I really don't know. We didn't have the concept in the late 80's Czechoslovakia...

    Our party 'leadership' were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals - they quickly found new sponsors after 1989 among their fellow homo-liberal-Westies.

    The drunk party faction unfortunately disappeared, many had health issues. They were fun, men of grit, intuition and strong beliefs who understood what uber-global-capitalism will be - but timing is everything and they were off by a few decades.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW

  319. @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    The most amazing part is that we don’t see more of this from Americans drawn to fight there on both sides.

    The main thing about Ukraine as the Germans found is not to get buried there with your Kameraden.

    An entire generation of Barbarossans vanished in the Black Mud.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    An entire generation of Barbarossans vanished in the Black Mud.

    Many just blended in and married some of the beautiful local gals and were able to put their many talents to use in rebuilding Ukraine. Sure are a lot of tall, blond haired Ukrainians within Ukraine. Charles XII left his imprint much earlier. My 93 year old roommate has told me a lot of tales a about this Germanization of Ukraine…

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. Hack


    Sure are a lot of tall, blond haired Ukrainians within Ukraine. Charles XII left his imprint much earlier. My 93 year old roommate has told me a lot of tales a about this Germanization of Ukraine…
     
    Tbh, I don't find most Germans all that "tall and blonde". Most of them are just normal looking and some are even a bit dark. Although in the war footage many of them do look quite ok. I also kind of doubt that most of them married some beautiful local girl (even though some did). Many of them were sent to the camps where they built up the Soviet infrastructure. All the Belomor kanals and such. Of course, today's Russians will never say danke for that.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

  320. @LatW
    @Beckow


    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,… will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.
     
    Haha, Beckow, just because I disappear from these threads, doesn't mean I'd give up on Ukraine. That's part of my life now and we're in this for the long haul. The reason for "disappearing" would be boredom (or abusive comments).

    A few interesting developments could still take place, hopefully in RF, too (alas, unlike you, I cannot really find "enjoyment" in any of this).

    Replies: @Beckow

    We are at the beginning. How it plays out is predictable but will have surprises. Questions remain.

    What will happen to Transnistria? Will Cichanovskaia and Guidado ever make it official? Maybe on Miami beach with the Senator Graham officiating? Will Zelina ever play the piano for us again? Who gets Kiev. So stick around. Something could happen in Moscow to make you happy – so many Tajiks to hire for what you called ‘the second front‘…blood and hatred feed on each other. And then when it is over everyone is slightly embarrassed.

    Life has to be enjoyed, not endured. Look into that idea.

  321. Mixed news for Ukrainian draft dodgers who managed to escape Ukraine. Ukraine ordered its consulates in other countries not to issue any new documents to Ukrainian males of draft age (i.e., 18-60 years old) except documents for their return to the meat grinder. Poland and Lithuania intend to help the clown regime get more cannon fodder. In contrast, Germany does not intend to force the meat to return to the grinder, promised to let Ukrainians stay even when their passports have expired. The empire will be displeased: as far as it is concerned, meat belongs in the grinder, and nowhere else. I wonder how long will it take for the German position to change to the opposite.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN


    I wonder how long will it take for the German position to change to the opposite.
     
    Blinken has a big stack on his ToDo list. As soon as this item filters up it will get done automatic. The man is like Robocop.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  322. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke


    An entire generation of Barbarossans vanished in the Black Mud.
     
    Many just blended in and married some of the beautiful local gals and were able to put their many talents to use in rebuilding Ukraine. Sure are a lot of tall, blond haired Ukrainians within Ukraine. Charles XII left his imprint much earlier. My 93 year old roommate has told me a lot of tales a about this Germanization of Ukraine...

    Replies: @LatW

    Sure are a lot of tall, blond haired Ukrainians within Ukraine. Charles XII left his imprint much earlier. My 93 year old roommate has told me a lot of tales a about this Germanization of Ukraine…

    Tbh, I don’t find most Germans all that “tall and blonde”. Most of them are just normal looking and some are even a bit dark. Although in the war footage many of them do look quite ok. I also kind of doubt that most of them married some beautiful local girl (even though some did). Many of them were sent to the camps where they built up the Soviet infrastructure. All the Belomor kanals and such. Of course, today’s Russians will never say danke for that.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    My roommate is probably exaggerating a bit, but he continually sticks to this story over the years. I don't remember the numbers of these Asgardian gods but do remember him stating that the bulk of them were former SS soldiers, in the thousands. I think that their minimal height requirements were 6'0".

    Replies: @LatW

    , @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Tbh, I don’t find most Germans all that “tall and blonde”. Most of them are just normal looking and some are even a bit dark.

    They are pretty easy to spot at a beach or ski lodge hot tub.

    The men will have a huge belly but will still wear a speedo. If you see a husky straight looking man at a US beach wearing a speedo he is probably German. The gays will only wear speedos if they are in shape.

    I really don't care but some Americans find the speedo to be offensive and especially if children are around.

    Replies: @LatW

  323. Hey songbird,

    Visualizing the Average Lifespans of Mammals (click on the link, there’s a cool graph)

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-average-lifespans-of-mammals/#google_vignette

    Didn’t know poor hedgehog only lives 3 years… aw. Having lived close to these creatures I always thought it was closer to 5 or 6. Imagine developing all those sturdy needles only to be used for 3 years.

    Wolverine comes pretty close to tiger (12 vs 14 years). This is a strong and ferocious northern animal.

    And, of course, the whales are superior creatures. 🙂

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Badgers have the apex in work ethic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14i02f31WDI

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    , @songbird
    @LatW


    Wolverine comes pretty close to tiger (12 vs 14 years). This is a strong and ferocious northern animal.
     
    It is curious because they are members of the weasel family. Have never seen one in the wild, but I have seen plenty of smaller weasels, ferocious in their own way.

    I am fond of them. I like to see their predatory intinct. In some way, it seems like the strongest manifestation of any animal I have observed. Sometimes, you can see them scanning as they run. And they will fearlessly chase squirrels almost equal in size up tall trees or attack rats in their holes. (I would never want one as a pet though, for they smell awful and some are really bitey - as they will go up to you and bite you, if you ignore them)

    Am going to nitpick about the graph. My theory would be that the human age includes childhood mortality but the animal ones don't. Since childhood mortality is so low nowadays in humans, maybe, it doesn't matter. But there are a lot of animal deaths, at a young age..

    Tbh, I don’t find most Germans all that “tall and blonde”.
     
    as a Celt, I definitely noticed the height difference. But I am not really sure they are noticeably more blond than pre-1965 Americans. Perhaps, a little but not much, at least in my area, matching for skin tone.

    and some are even a bit dark.
     
    Turks. Or Greeks.

    But I am kidding, I know what you mean. Anyway, to my mind, blonds can be quite dark, after getting sun.
    , @Dmitry
    @LatW

    Humans are one of the only four species of great apes which are not extinct. There is a gorilla and orangutan lifespan in their natural ecology of only 35 years, chimpanzee lifespan 40 years, Bonobo less than 40.

    They are believed to be living longer in captivity compared to their natural ecology. In their natural ecology, the three species of great apes which are not humans, are killed mainly by cardiovascular. respiratory disease and trauma.

    -

    There is an old Biblical view which implies about mortality like a gradient from Adam, who should be immortal in the garden of Eden. In relation to patriarchs like Adam, he only lived 175 years before he died.

    It feels like the Biblical view is common in a lot of the today's popular culture, lifestyle advice, paleo diet.

    -

    From view of psychological health, it is probably true we have been declining, since our time in the natural ecologies, compared to artificially engineered ecologies which develop after the invention of agriculture technology and the overpopulation was created, increasing the human population from around one million people for most of the human history to a "share dilution" of over eight billion people today.

  324. @AnonfromTN
    Mixed news for Ukrainian draft dodgers who managed to escape Ukraine. Ukraine ordered its consulates in other countries not to issue any new documents to Ukrainian males of draft age (i.e., 18-60 years old) except documents for their return to the meat grinder. Poland and Lithuania intend to help the clown regime get more cannon fodder. In contrast, Germany does not intend to force the meat to return to the grinder, promised to let Ukrainians stay even when their passports have expired. The empire will be displeased: as far as it is concerned, meat belongs in the grinder, and nowhere else. I wonder how long will it take for the German position to change to the opposite.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I wonder how long will it take for the German position to change to the opposite.

    Blinken has a big stack on his ToDo list. As soon as this item filters up it will get done automatic. The man is like Robocop.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Blinken has a big stack on his ToDo list. As soon as this item filters up it will get done automatic. The man is like Robocop.
     
    Yep. And German “leaders” are like obedient poodles. Frankly, I pity Germans: with “leaders” like that, who needs enemies.
  325. @LatW
    Hey songbird,

    Visualizing the Average Lifespans of Mammals (click on the link, there's a cool graph)

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-average-lifespans-of-mammals/#google_vignette

    Didn't know poor hedgehog only lives 3 years... aw. Having lived close to these creatures I always thought it was closer to 5 or 6. Imagine developing all those sturdy needles only to be used for 3 years.

    Wolverine comes pretty close to tiger (12 vs 14 years). This is a strong and ferocious northern animal.

    And, of course, the whales are superior creatures. :)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Dmitry

    Badgers have the apex in work ethic.

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Makes me wonder what else is buried out there!

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Gerard1234
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    That's alot of activity for a badger during the day time. I've only ever seen a badger once during the day, all other times at night, mostly near or crossing the road. I assume none of us have seen a cub.

    Difficult to think of an animal more shy and unwilling to get attention - alot of other animals are claimed to have these characteristics but don't do it in practise, certainly not in comparison to the badger ( I am thinking creatures generally not liked but still likely to encounter more than the badger like snakes and rodents). Bears far more "sociable". On the other side of the spectrum - on holiday I found rhinos to be attention-whores.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  326. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN


    I wonder how long will it take for the German position to change to the opposite.
     
    Blinken has a big stack on his ToDo list. As soon as this item filters up it will get done automatic. The man is like Robocop.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Blinken has a big stack on his ToDo list. As soon as this item filters up it will get done automatic. The man is like Robocop.

    Yep. And German “leaders” are like obedient poodles. Frankly, I pity Germans: with “leaders” like that, who needs enemies.

  327. @LatW
    @Mr. Hack


    Sure are a lot of tall, blond haired Ukrainians within Ukraine. Charles XII left his imprint much earlier. My 93 year old roommate has told me a lot of tales a about this Germanization of Ukraine…
     
    Tbh, I don't find most Germans all that "tall and blonde". Most of them are just normal looking and some are even a bit dark. Although in the war footage many of them do look quite ok. I also kind of doubt that most of them married some beautiful local girl (even though some did). Many of them were sent to the camps where they built up the Soviet infrastructure. All the Belomor kanals and such. Of course, today's Russians will never say danke for that.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    My roommate is probably exaggerating a bit, but he continually sticks to this story over the years. I don’t remember the numbers of these Asgardian gods but do remember him stating that the bulk of them were former SS soldiers, in the thousands. I think that their minimal height requirements were 6’0″.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. Hack


    My roommate is probably exaggerating a bit, but he continually sticks to this story over the years. I don’t remember the numbers of these Asgardian gods but do remember him stating that the bulk of them were former SS soldiers, in the thousands
     
    I will rely on your roommate's authority here, I wouldn't argue against, in this case. :) Although there are all kinds of memory bias out there. :) The Slavs are probably slightly shorter than Scandinavians and Dutch but I wonder if this can be said about Germans, too, and many Slavs are quite blonde (the difference is often in the facial features, Germans are more angular). I wonder if there is a big difference from today and the 1930-40s. I know that the Russians (or Ukrainians?) who arrived into the Baltic States after 1950 or so are a bit shorter than the locals, overall, with some exceptions (but there can be various factors at play, such as nutrition).

    In Ukraine, there is a mix, but I think some of those blondes are originals. Although who knows.

    Of course, the SS had high standards, but eventually the Germans had millions of soldiers, so most of them were just normal dudes. Then again, many SS soldiers, too, can be considered "normal dudes", handsome, strong and healthy males are not that uncommon.


    I think that their minimal height requirements were 6’0″.
     
    Of course, I'm aware of their requirements (they had similar selection requirements for our boys, too, they took the best.. sadly).
  328. How often do we, moderns, associate the word museum with its origin –muse (even though the connection is so obvious). I think in our perception it is more of a material place, a place of artifacts, maybe of reading or learning, of inquiry. But in the classical thinking, this is a place of contemplation, think of the word “musing” (granted, museums do sometimes inspire this). Of some kind of a live, ongoing inspiration. One can say learning and contemplation are connected. And for the Greeks, mouseion was the place of contemplation, philosophy and the “seat of Muses”. And the muses were not just connected to poetry, but were in some ways protectors of those who were involved in research.

    Of course, this word is connected to music and harmony.

    Some connect this word to mind:

    “The word Muses (Ancient Greek: Μοῦσαι, romanized: Moûsai) perhaps came from the o-grade of the Proto-Indo-European root *men- (the basic meaning of which is ‘put in mind’ in verb formations with transitive function and ‘have in mind’ in those with intransitive function), or from root *men- (‘to tower, mountain’) since all the most important cult-centres of the Muses were on mountains or hills.”

    The muses were the daughters of Zeus and Mnemosyne (Memory – mind and memory are often connected in mythology). Nine muses appeared as the result of nine nights of love.

    [MORE]

    1. Calliope – The muse of epic poetry and eloquence. She is often depicted with a writing tablet or scroll.

    2. Clio – The muse of history. She is portrayed holding a book or a set of scrolls, symbolizing knowledge and learning.

    3. Erato – The muse of love poetry and lyric poetry. She is often depicted with a lyre, representing romantic and intimate expression.

    4. Euterpe – The muse of music and lyric poetry. She is typically shown playing a flute or holding a musical instrument.

    5. Melpomene – The muse of tragedy. She is depicted holding a tragic mask and a dagger, symbolizing the serious and somber aspects of life.

    6. Polyhymnia – The muse of sacred poetry, hymns, and dance. She is often shown in a thoughtful pose, symbolizing contemplation and meditation.

    7. Terpsichore – The muse of dance and choral poetry. She is usually depicted dancing or playing a musical instrument.

    8. Thalia – The muse of comedy and bucolic poetry. She is portrayed holding a comic mask and a shepherd’s crook, representing humor and pastoral themes.

    9. Urania – The muse of astronomy and astrology. She is often shown with a globe or a celestial sphere, symbolizing the study of the heavens.

    http://www.ldysinger.com/@texts/0-03_plato/04_phaedrus.htm

  329. @LatW
    Hey songbird,

    Visualizing the Average Lifespans of Mammals (click on the link, there's a cool graph)

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-average-lifespans-of-mammals/#google_vignette

    Didn't know poor hedgehog only lives 3 years... aw. Having lived close to these creatures I always thought it was closer to 5 or 6. Imagine developing all those sturdy needles only to be used for 3 years.

    Wolverine comes pretty close to tiger (12 vs 14 years). This is a strong and ferocious northern animal.

    And, of course, the whales are superior creatures. :)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Dmitry

    Wolverine comes pretty close to tiger (12 vs 14 years). This is a strong and ferocious northern animal.

    It is curious because they are members of the weasel family. Have never seen one in the wild, but I have seen plenty of smaller weasels, ferocious in their own way.

    [MORE]

    I am fond of them. I like to see their predatory intinct. In some way, it seems like the strongest manifestation of any animal I have observed. Sometimes, you can see them scanning as they run. And they will fearlessly chase squirrels almost equal in size up tall trees or attack rats in their holes. (I would never want one as a pet though, for they smell awful and some are really bitey – as they will go up to you and bite you, if you ignore them)

    Am going to nitpick about the graph. My theory would be that the human age includes childhood mortality but the animal ones don’t. Since childhood mortality is so low nowadays in humans, maybe, it doesn’t matter. But there are a lot of animal deaths, at a young age..

    Tbh, I don’t find most Germans all that “tall and blonde”.

    as a Celt, I definitely noticed the height difference. But I am not really sure they are noticeably more blond than pre-1965 Americans. Perhaps, a little but not much, at least in my area, matching for skin tone.

    and some are even a bit dark.

    Turks. Or Greeks.

    But I am kidding, I know what you mean. Anyway, to my mind, blonds can be quite dark, after getting sun.

  330. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Badgers have the apex in work ethic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14i02f31WDI

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    Makes me wonder what else is buried out there!

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    What fortifications are required to keep a badger out of a chicken coop?

  331. This is kind of funny:

    “In another passage, Plato is quoted expressing his disdain for the musical abilities of a Barbarian performer from Thrace.”

    I wonder who this was and of which ethnicity – Celtic? Germanic? Maybe even some rare Balto-Slav?

    It is so funny how “xenophobic” and famously chauvinistic the Greeks were… so full and absorbed in themselves, a true master race. But maybe not such a flattering quality from today’s point of view, not very open minded.. 🙂

    https://www.iflscience.com/platos-exact-burial-place-revealed-by-charred-papyrus-near-pompeii-73944

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    Was recently wondering if some of the old depictions of Trojans with very light hair may have been inspired by Thracians.

    I also liked that part with Plato denouncing the music of Thracians. (It perhaps hints at possible HBD observations yet to be uncovered in the other scrolls.)

    IMO, urbanites always disdain the music of rural folk. Still, I don't think I would want to hear something like this on my deathbed:. (assuming it was that time.)

    https://youtu.be/96ZN0bwnA5k?si=-P9UvE0k0lkNEdQ7

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Beckow
    @LatW

    Thracians were an early Indo-European split-off from the IE steppes homeland who migrated to the eastern Balkans - Bulgarians claim them. Their closest linguistic relatives are the Balts - so they are your kinfolk...but they disappeared. It could be their IE language was very ancient as Lithu-Latvian and that is why they show similarity.

    The amusing thing about Thracians were their loose mating habits - Greeks thought of them as absolutely deprived. Maybe an IE thing or something to do with Bulgaria. The term Barbarian was coined about Thracians...they wore it proudly.

  332. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    And the cheerleading club here, JoJo, AP, Mr. Hack, LatW,… will disappear into thin ether never to be heard from again.
     
    Don’t you worry, useful idiots will be used by the ruling cabal for other things. These are quintessential sovoks: always sincerely supporting the party line. Valuable material, very useful idiots. They will disappear only when the current cabal is no longer ruling. Not exactly disappear even then, though: they will sincerely support the party line of the next cabal that becomes ruling.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The cabals come and go and mid-wits adjust. What is a “sovok“? I really don’t know. We didn’t have the concept in the late 80’s Czechoslovakia…

    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals – they quickly found new sponsors after 1989 among their fellow homo-liberal-Westies.

    The drunk party faction unfortunately disappeared, many had health issues. They were fun, men of grit, intuition and strong beliefs who understood what uber-global-capitalism will be – but timing is everything and they were off by a few decades.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    What is a “sovok“?
     
    In late USSR sovok meant yes-man first and foremost. We naively believed that this is a specific Soviet phenomenon. Now I know that we were wrong.

    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals
     
    You guys had greater variety. Soviet “leaders” were mostly careerists with morals of snakes and intellectual abilities of PE teachers. Some were alcoholics, some did not drink much. None was a pervert. I think many suffered from erectile dysfunction, not necessarily because of old age. Many of them turned out to be so pathologically greedy that they destroyed the country and the system to get an opportunity to steal more. We were stupid enough to go along with this. As Dostoevsky said, being intelligent is not enough to behave intelligently.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @LatW
    @Beckow


    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals
     
    Seriously? You had women in top leadership roles?? Or are you talking just minor level functionaries? Maybe that's because you guys were less "hardcore totalitarian" than the real Soviets. In the real Soviet system, the women were made to do all the low level, hard work (with the exception of a few artists and similar "light" professions who served the system, although they did need to have some real talent), the top functionaries were always men (often not very impressive ones - I think many of the better men had been pushed away and emasculated).

    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.

    So that's a difference there (if it is as you say). Yours sound almost like Gro Harlem Brundtland, a 1980s Nordic political icon, - although she was a real strong politician who kind of stood on her own regardless of the Nordic political culture and was competent, unlike those Sovok and Warsaw pact marionettes.

    And, yes, the Thracians migrated from the East (as many of us did), I figure this musician who was scorned by Plato was most likely from the south, but was just wondering - there were probably all kinds of traveling bards and musicians even back then.

    (Although apparently only Greek citizens were allowed as actors in Greek theater).

    As to the Greek descriptions of the Thracian's sexual mores, one would have to look closer at those sources - the Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers by the Greeks so in that setting they may have been more promiscuous and careless since they would've been away from their core societies that would normally hold them to stricter behavior norms.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Gerard1234

  333. @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    My roommate is probably exaggerating a bit, but he continually sticks to this story over the years. I don't remember the numbers of these Asgardian gods but do remember him stating that the bulk of them were former SS soldiers, in the thousands. I think that their minimal height requirements were 6'0".

    Replies: @LatW

    My roommate is probably exaggerating a bit, but he continually sticks to this story over the years. I don’t remember the numbers of these Asgardian gods but do remember him stating that the bulk of them were former SS soldiers, in the thousands

    I will rely on your roommate’s authority here, I wouldn’t argue against, in this case. 🙂 Although there are all kinds of memory bias out there. 🙂 The Slavs are probably slightly shorter than Scandinavians and Dutch but I wonder if this can be said about Germans, too, and many Slavs are quite blonde (the difference is often in the facial features, Germans are more angular). I wonder if there is a big difference from today and the 1930-40s. I know that the Russians (or Ukrainians?) who arrived into the Baltic States after 1950 or so are a bit shorter than the locals, overall, with some exceptions (but there can be various factors at play, such as nutrition).

    In Ukraine, there is a mix, but I think some of those blondes are originals. Although who knows.

    Of course, the SS had high standards, but eventually the Germans had millions of soldiers, so most of them were just normal dudes. Then again, many SS soldiers, too, can be considered “normal dudes”, handsome, strong and healthy males are not that uncommon.

    I think that their minimal height requirements were 6’0″.

    Of course, I’m aware of their requirements (they had similar selection requirements for our boys, too, they took the best.. sadly).

  334. @LatW
    This is kind of funny:

    "In another passage, Plato is quoted expressing his disdain for the musical abilities of a Barbarian performer from Thrace."

    I wonder who this was and of which ethnicity - Celtic? Germanic? Maybe even some rare Balto-Slav?

    It is so funny how "xenophobic" and famously chauvinistic the Greeks were... so full and absorbed in themselves, a true master race. But maybe not such a flattering quality from today's point of view, not very open minded.. :)

    https://www.iflscience.com/platos-exact-burial-place-revealed-by-charred-papyrus-near-pompeii-73944

    Replies: @songbird, @Beckow

    Was recently wondering if some of the old depictions of Trojans with very light hair may have been inspired by Thracians.

    I also liked that part with Plato denouncing the music of Thracians. (It perhaps hints at possible HBD observations yet to be uncovered in the other scrolls.)

    IMO, urbanites always disdain the music of rural folk. Still, I don’t think I would want to hear something like this on my deathbed:. (assuming it was that time.)

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    IMO, urbanites always disdain the music of rural folk
     
    It seems the Greek chauvinism towards "barbarians" may have been a real thing (Nietzsche mentions this and he was a real student of the classics, exemplary even, so knew what he was talking about). Btw, in Greek, barbarian is not derogatory, just a description of someone foreign.

    Still, I don’t think I would want to hear something like this on my deathbed:. (assuming it was that time.)
     
    Oh, this is exactly what I would want on my deathbed, so thanks for that clip. But, yes, it is quite crass sounding - when one listens to this, it needs to be approached not purely aesthetically, but maybe slightly imaginatively. 😊 I love bagpipes, but mostly from French and German medieval performers.

    Yea, it's not the Celtic harp, that's for sure...

  335. @LatW
    This is kind of funny:

    "In another passage, Plato is quoted expressing his disdain for the musical abilities of a Barbarian performer from Thrace."

    I wonder who this was and of which ethnicity - Celtic? Germanic? Maybe even some rare Balto-Slav?

    It is so funny how "xenophobic" and famously chauvinistic the Greeks were... so full and absorbed in themselves, a true master race. But maybe not such a flattering quality from today's point of view, not very open minded.. :)

    https://www.iflscience.com/platos-exact-burial-place-revealed-by-charred-papyrus-near-pompeii-73944

    Replies: @songbird, @Beckow

    Thracians were an early Indo-European split-off from the IE steppes homeland who migrated to the eastern Balkans – Bulgarians claim them. Their closest linguistic relatives are the Balts – so they are your kinfolk…but they disappeared. It could be their IE language was very ancient as Lithu-Latvian and that is why they show similarity.

    The amusing thing about Thracians were their loose mating habits – Greeks thought of them as absolutely deprived. Maybe an IE thing or something to do with Bulgaria. The term Barbarian was coined about Thracians…they wore it proudly.

  336. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The cabals come and go and mid-wits adjust. What is a "sovok"? I really don't know. We didn't have the concept in the late 80's Czechoslovakia...

    Our party 'leadership' were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals - they quickly found new sponsors after 1989 among their fellow homo-liberal-Westies.

    The drunk party faction unfortunately disappeared, many had health issues. They were fun, men of grit, intuition and strong beliefs who understood what uber-global-capitalism will be - but timing is everything and they were off by a few decades.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW

    What is a “sovok“?

    In late USSR sovok meant yes-man first and foremost. We naively believed that this is a specific Soviet phenomenon. Now I know that we were wrong.

    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals

    You guys had greater variety. Soviet “leaders” were mostly careerists with morals of snakes and intellectual abilities of PE teachers. Some were alcoholics, some did not drink much. None was a pervert. I think many suffered from erectile dysfunction, not necessarily because of old age. Many of them turned out to be so pathologically greedy that they destroyed the country and the system to get an opportunity to steal more. We were stupid enough to go along with this. As Dostoevsky said, being intelligent is not enough to behave intelligently.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...We naively believed that this is a specific Soviet phenomenon.
     
    That is bad enough. But the real problem is that most Westies are brainwashed into believing it was only specific to Soviets...that bizarre belief brought us to today's dramatic point in human history: total Western mental chaos, like lemming kids blabbering nonsense as they march into oblivion.

    Many of them turned out to be so pathologically greedy that they destroyed the country and the system to get an opportunity to steal more.
     
    They believed in materialism so the greed came naturally. That is pretty common around the world but commies were amateurs compared to most of world, novices suddenly living in a land of plenty. They couldn't avoid the temptation and post 1950's there was really no fear of consequences. It was caused by the fact that they managed to build fairly prosperous countries by 1970's. But I agree that a little bit of morality wouldn't hurt.
  337. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The cabals come and go and mid-wits adjust. What is a "sovok"? I really don't know. We didn't have the concept in the late 80's Czechoslovakia...

    Our party 'leadership' were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals - they quickly found new sponsors after 1989 among their fellow homo-liberal-Westies.

    The drunk party faction unfortunately disappeared, many had health issues. They were fun, men of grit, intuition and strong beliefs who understood what uber-global-capitalism will be - but timing is everything and they were off by a few decades.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW

    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals

    Seriously? You had women in top leadership roles?? Or are you talking just minor level functionaries? Maybe that’s because you guys were less “hardcore totalitarian” than the real Soviets. In the real Soviet system, the women were made to do all the low level, hard work (with the exception of a few artists and similar “light” professions who served the system, although they did need to have some real talent), the top functionaries were always men (often not very impressive ones – I think many of the better men had been pushed away and emasculated).

    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.

    So that’s a difference there (if it is as you say). Yours sound almost like Gro Harlem Brundtland, a 1980s Nordic political icon, – although she was a real strong politician who kind of stood on her own regardless of the Nordic political culture and was competent, unlike those Sovok and Warsaw pact marionettes.

    And, yes, the Thracians migrated from the East (as many of us did), I figure this musician who was scorned by Plato was most likely from the south, but was just wondering – there were probably all kinds of traveling bards and musicians even back then.

    (Although apparently only Greek citizens were allowed as actors in Greek theater).

    As to the Greek descriptions of the Thracian’s sexual mores, one would have to look closer at those sources – the Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers by the Greeks so in that setting they may have been more promiscuous and careless since they would’ve been away from their core societies that would normally hold them to stricter behavior norms.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...You had women in top leadership roles?
     
    Depends on how you define the top. I was a kid, I only dealt with the locals who made us salute and twice a year march into the woods for drills. They were mostly fat, aging women - the local secretary was probably drunk so he delegated. The very top had old guys - not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.

    The top guys seemed powerless, they read on TV long lists of complaints: people don't work hard enough, there is theft!, milk is watery, peasants come to cities to buy subsidized bread to feed to pigs... They were whiners and nobody was afraid of them - the whole "totalitarian" bull never made much sense to me. I am baptized, we travelled to the West (you needed money), we had no party members.

    When I first heard at US university about my totalitarian country, I said the above and the prof actually whispered: "don't say that, we know...but 'Stalin' and 'Khmer Rouge' (?)...we can't say that, I could lose my job!" I told him it sounds like he lived in totalitarianism. He giggled like the Westies always do when caught in propaganda. (Some also dig through "data" like AP, but he is moron.)


    Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers, so...
     
    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were. (They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now.) It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant - it wasn't about the language sounds...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke, @LatW, @LatW

    , @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.
     
    Just about the biggest pile of ratsh*t, dishonest, dumbest comment possible. Even by the standards of a constantly lying Latvian eunuch POS.

    About 25 of the top 100 business owners/richest people in Tatarstan, my place , and key economic hub, are women you retarded idiot. So instinctively and immediately I know you are just inventing BS out of nowhere. Omsk, plenty of family there, it's something like 20 out of 100. These are abnormally high numbers

    Entrepreneurs/technocrats such as Kasperskaya and Bakalchuk are known to all. Can ANY equivalent of these women be named in Latvia? Of course not.
    I think we have 4 female dollar billionaires who aren't from marriage/inheritance (and including Fileva of S7 airlines who sadly died in plane crash).......I think we are the same or superior to US, Canada and all the other western countries on this .

    Comparing the very wealthiest is pointless because of course for Russia it's mostly 90's acquired oligarch parasites off minerals, oil& gas and other state corporations - and can't expect Latvia to have many billionaires. You can however make comparisons in sectors or in oblasts vs the whole of Latvian shithole, as I did for Omsk and Tatarstan....and of course its a non-contest you shameless retard, LMAO.

    Even a schizo shitbag as you should know the disproportionately higher number of Russians, Scandinavians, Jews ahead of Latvian plankton in charge of LATVIAN private businesses you lying scumbag - shipping, banking of course, retail etc. In that hierarchy it's even Russian women ahead of Latvian women, LOL. Again, lying scum like you should and probably does know this.

    Except for the ethnic Russian+other non-latvian Yelena Buraga at Rietumu........I can't think of ANY Latvian women in top Latvian-retard companies. Maybe things have changed in the last 5-10 years (can't be bothered checking).....but I doubt it.

    For Russia -Gazprom has 3 out of 10 women on Board of Directors. 1 out of the 5 executives at Sber is a woman. 2 out of 10 in Novatek. Our central Bank governor. 1 out of 3 executives at X5 group. Many top female managers at Rostec. S7-Fileva. One at Rosneft . None at Aeroflot or Tatneft ( although huge amount of female mid-level managers at Aeroflot) . , Dixi - CFO- woman. Rusal - Board of Directors - 2 out of 13 women ( with 4 of them being western men, so its 2 Russian women and 7 Russian men. Megafon- don't know. Russian media organisations........about a million women. Academia - the same. You could say that legal positions that women are not as fairly treated as men compared to the very high numbers studying law at University and training to be lawyer....but there is still plenty of them

    Banking, Minerals, Oil % Gas, Airlines, Agriculture, Pharmaceutical,Tech, Machinery, Retail.....ALL these sectors have alot of top female managers and executives compared to the ZERO of Latvia. Those are just the top companies , but at the mid-level the proportion is significantly higher

    Just to be clear - I consider one out of 3 , 1in 6, even 1 in 10 of these positions to be a very high representation of women.We are still massively in front of most western countries on woman in top leadership positions you dumb prick - the big increase in western politics in women is only a very recent, post-communist phenomenon you dickhead - I don't think until just before coronavirus have they been starting to force western boards of directors/executives to be 50/50 for quota targets. And we always since 1991 exponentially higher in female representation in politics and everything else compared to the 'west-looking" ex-soviet states like Gruzia, Moldova and failed-state of Ukraine.

    As a worthless lying POS who does nothing other than thinking about Russian stuff all day, its absolutely bizarre you don't know about the very high percentage of women arrested in corruption cases in RF, mainly because they are in CFO or similar position related to the accounting - for sure in many of those cases it involves some scumbag corrupt men using her as a sacrificial victim.......other cases not ( ......however the point is that they are appointed in these significant positions anyway you idiot) .

    “light” professions who served the system, although they did need to have some real talent), the top functionaries were always men (often not very impressive ones – I
     
    .

    Again, you useless retard - this is the exact same pattern across all the world for the last 100 years, especially in the west, of males disproportionately having top positions in politics, business and everything else - like 90, 95% until the 1990's - or sometimes not even then but far into 2010's.

    Deindustrialisation and services-orientated economy , feminism increases these women numbers in Politics and business compared to the non-existant numbers until recently. My own perception from hearing friends there is that households having 2 cars (i.e the woman driving in addition to the husband) becoming a majority thing only started happening in the west, except the US where always like that, in the last 30-40 years.

    Maybe that’s because you guys were less “hardcore totalitarian” than the real Soviets.
     
    In absolutely zero way since Khrushchev could the Soviet Union be called "totalitarian" you mentally diseased shitbag.

    Now considering that modern-day f**kup state Latvia IS a totalitarian shithole state, then your comment is extremely ironic. Totalitarian, shithole , apartheid state to be exact. Very few people in USSR, very few Latvian earthworms in LatvianSSR thought they were in "totalitarian" state at the time you POS. End of Communism and of course many can see the type of things they missed ( and many things they enjoyed) from the limited economic freedom. Clearly because of the concept of the system itself, economic freedom was limited - and the level of economic freedom is that much higher now - which acts to camouflage to some of them just how evil, and totalitarian much of the laws and practices in parasitic Latvian shithole is.

    LOL - how can a scumbag as yourself so shamelessly lie - trying to exploit the fact you are ashamed of your own non-entity ethnicity to even try to promote it on here, and that nobody here is interested in it.......you continually write nonsense hoping for it not be exposed as idiocy - like this, or the vast majority of buildings in Riga being Russian, German or Soviet.......and of course the comedic fake of Jani day being "banned" by Soviets!

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

  338. @songbird
    @LatW

    Was recently wondering if some of the old depictions of Trojans with very light hair may have been inspired by Thracians.

    I also liked that part with Plato denouncing the music of Thracians. (It perhaps hints at possible HBD observations yet to be uncovered in the other scrolls.)

    IMO, urbanites always disdain the music of rural folk. Still, I don't think I would want to hear something like this on my deathbed:. (assuming it was that time.)

    https://youtu.be/96ZN0bwnA5k?si=-P9UvE0k0lkNEdQ7

    Replies: @LatW

    IMO, urbanites always disdain the music of rural folk

    It seems the Greek chauvinism towards “barbarians” may have been a real thing (Nietzsche mentions this and he was a real student of the classics, exemplary even, so knew what he was talking about). Btw, in Greek, barbarian is not derogatory, just a description of someone foreign.

    Still, I don’t think I would want to hear something like this on my deathbed:. (assuming it was that time.)

    Oh, this is exactly what I would want on my deathbed, so thanks for that clip. But, yes, it is quite crass sounding – when one listens to this, it needs to be approached not purely aesthetically, but maybe slightly imaginatively. 😊 I love bagpipes, but mostly from French and German medieval performers.

    Yea, it’s not the Celtic harp, that’s for sure…

  339. Another People of Russia video to make their country proud.

    Russian war vet pulls gun on long haired anti-war civilian:

  340. More video on pro-Russian American that went to fight for Russian values and was buttraped by Russian soldiers:

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    You should be ashamed for resorting to that filthy concocted propaganda.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    If you think that's bad, wait until the FABs start landing in Kiev and Dnipro. I think Bentley would understand why the Russians may need to attack Kiev and Odessa (for different reasons) so that wording in the interview seems odd. I understand he wouldn't like it, none of us do.

    Great job, morons.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  341. @AP
    @Derer


    So far the simpleminded hawks from Washington are able to partially retard the expected progress in Russia after 75 years of communist tyranny
     
    Putin retarded Russia’s progress when he grabbed Crimea in 2014. Russia recovered by 2021 (would have earlier if not for Covid), but he did it again in 2022.

    And some Russians are proud that they screwed Ukraine even more but this is like the parable about the peasant who was granted any wish on the condition that his neighbor would get double. The peasant wished that he would lose one eye.

    The years 2010-2014 (and maybe 2021) will be fondly remembered as a Golden Age for Russia. Russians were about as rich as Poles back then, even a bit richer in 2013 when taking into account purchase power:

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?locations=RU-PL

    It will take a long time if ever for Russia to return to that. Not sure if living off Chinese scraps will be so great.

    Replies: @Derer

    Putin retarded Russia’s progress when he grabbed Crimea in 2014.

    It was Communist politburo in 1954 that grabbed Crimea from Russia. You have convenient gaps in history. It was Putin’s duty to get it back by referendum when Washington warmongers in 2014 wanted to put military base there.

    US sanctions, assets theft and arming Ukraine has elevated the Washington sinister players to enemy status #1 and now prime target of ballistic missiles including nuclear. The Russian public opinion is all behind that undertaking. Restoration of good relations is destroyed for generations, especially after cowardly state terrorism on Russian civilian pipeline, bridges or concert. The culprits will pay dearly for those atrocities.

    • Thanks: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Derer


    It was Communist politburo in 1954 that grabbed Crimea from Russia. You have convenient gaps in history. It was Putin’s duty to get it back by referendum when Washington warmongers in 2014 wanted to put military base there.

    US sanctions, assets theft and arming Ukraine has elevated the Washington sinister players to enemy status #1 and now prime target of ballistic missiles including nuclear. The Russian public opinion is all behind that undertaking. Restoration of good relations is destroyed for generations, especially after cowardly state terrorism on Russian civilian pipeline, bridges or concert. The culprits will pay dearly for those atrocities.
     
    Neocons faultily like bringing up Chamberlain and appeasement. Appeasement would've seen instances like Russia not responding to the coup action in Kiev and allowing for the Kiev regime to forcefully take Donbass.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  342. @John Johnson
    More video on pro-Russian American that went to fight for Russian values and was buttraped by Russian soldiers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esC4G1_1J5E

    Replies: @Derer, @QCIC

    You should be ashamed for resorting to that filthy concocted propaganda.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    You should be ashamed for resorting to that filthy concocted propaganda.

    Did you watch the video?

    His wife is Russian and she hasn't received his body.

    You should be ashamed for directing your frustrations at a forum poster instead facing the harsh reality that Russia is a degenerate totalitarian state where individual life is meaningless.

    Russians were known to rape in WW2 and here we are in the Ukraine war with another tale of Russian rape but this time against a man.

    Yea all propaganda I'm sure comrade.

    Everyone saw which side was stealing dishwashers and washing machines. But the rape allegations must all be Western propaganda!!!

    Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    Who wants to take bets on whether or not his body will be returned? They won't be able to hide rectal damage.

    Replies: @Derer

  343. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature.
     
    Embryo selection does not involve editing any embryos' genes, simply choosing the embryo(s) with the best genes to implant as they already are right now.

    BTW, do you think that the old (pre-1970s) child support laws were more eugenic or dysgenic relative to the current (post-1970s) child support laws?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature.

    Embryo selection does not involve editing any embryos’ genes, simply choosing the embryo(s) with the best genes to implant as they already are right now.

    Yes and I was talking about in utero gene therapy. It’s still extremely expensive to flip a single gene.

    Embryo selection is controversial and a huge section of the population would opt out even if you reduced the cost.
    BTW, do you think that the old (pre-1970s) child support laws were more eugenic or dysgenic relative to the current (post-1970s) child support laws?

    I don’t know anything about pre-70s child support laws.

    I think the bigger problem is no-fault divorce which supersedes child support.

    My guess is that it works against the middle class and is dysgenic. At the very least it is anti-natal. I think it leads to fewer children by permitting either side to divorce for hedonistic reasons. The wife or husband leaves for a fling and they don’t have any more children. It also causes men to be wary of marriage when they witness such divorces.

  344. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    You should be ashamed for resorting to that filthy concocted propaganda.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    You should be ashamed for resorting to that filthy concocted propaganda.

    Did you watch the video?

    His wife is Russian and she hasn’t received his body.

    You should be ashamed for directing your frustrations at a forum poster instead facing the harsh reality that Russia is a degenerate totalitarian state where individual life is meaningless.

    Russians were known to rape in WW2 and here we are in the Ukraine war with another tale of Russian rape but this time against a man.

    Yea all propaganda I’m sure comrade.

    Everyone saw which side was stealing dishwashers and washing machines. But the rape allegations must all be Western propaganda!!!

    Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    Who wants to take bets on whether or not his body will be returned? They won’t be able to hide rectal damage.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Do you watch the US MSM? Filthy propaganda that is loosing the followings by day and educated are switching to the alternatives.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  345. @LatW
    @Mr. Hack


    Sure are a lot of tall, blond haired Ukrainians within Ukraine. Charles XII left his imprint much earlier. My 93 year old roommate has told me a lot of tales a about this Germanization of Ukraine…
     
    Tbh, I don't find most Germans all that "tall and blonde". Most of them are just normal looking and some are even a bit dark. Although in the war footage many of them do look quite ok. I also kind of doubt that most of them married some beautiful local girl (even though some did). Many of them were sent to the camps where they built up the Soviet infrastructure. All the Belomor kanals and such. Of course, today's Russians will never say danke for that.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    Tbh, I don’t find most Germans all that “tall and blonde”. Most of them are just normal looking and some are even a bit dark.

    They are pretty easy to spot at a beach or ski lodge hot tub.

    The men will have a huge belly but will still wear a speedo. If you see a husky straight looking man at a US beach wearing a speedo he is probably German. The gays will only wear speedos if they are in shape.

    I really don’t care but some Americans find the speedo to be offensive and especially if children are around.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @John Johnson


    I wasn't really talking about the "speedo vs boxers" phenomenon (I'm not yet decided on that one as I find both of those quite acceptable with the right kind of... ehem, "wearer"). I was talking about racial characteristics. I'm just suspecting that some of the blonder Ukrainians carry the genetics of hundreds of years back, not since the 1940s or just a couple of hundred years ago. I base this on their facial features which are quite different from German and Nordic. And even in some cases Western Slavic.

    I'm a bit puzzled why Hack believes this...

    Of course, it's common knowledge that Americans are more discreet and more private. Especially when bathing. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just funny that they are that way, but then they are ok with crazy online content that is easily accessible. Anyway, I'm not in the mood today to bash Americans. :)


    If you see a husky straight looking man at a US beach wearing a speedo he is probably German. The gays will only wear speedos if they are in shape.
     
    True masculinity doesn't just hide in one's speedos or boxers (respectfully), but in one's head and actions. So nothing to be ashamed about. :)

    Replies: @John Johnson

  346. @Matra
    @QCIC


    With that in mind, I imagine it is at least as likely that the Ukies had him murdered and then framed up some group to stir up dissent.
     
    Absolutely no one believes that, including his Russian wife and the DPR.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    Just as I suspected the Russian soldiers who killed (and apparently raped) Russell Bentley

    1. Source of info?
    2. Where does this source get funding (he who pays the musicians calls the tune)?

    Absolutely no one believes that, including his Russian wife and the DPR.

    People believed all sorts of preposterous things for thousands of years. Beliefs do not constitute proof.

  347. @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Tbh, I don’t find most Germans all that “tall and blonde”. Most of them are just normal looking and some are even a bit dark.

    They are pretty easy to spot at a beach or ski lodge hot tub.

    The men will have a huge belly but will still wear a speedo. If you see a husky straight looking man at a US beach wearing a speedo he is probably German. The gays will only wear speedos if they are in shape.

    I really don't care but some Americans find the speedo to be offensive and especially if children are around.

    Replies: @LatW

    [MORE]

    I wasn’t really talking about the “speedo vs boxers” phenomenon (I’m not yet decided on that one as I find both of those quite acceptable with the right kind of… ehem, “wearer”). I was talking about racial characteristics. I’m just suspecting that some of the blonder Ukrainians carry the genetics of hundreds of years back, not since the 1940s or just a couple of hundred years ago. I base this on their facial features which are quite different from German and Nordic. And even in some cases Western Slavic.

    I’m a bit puzzled why Hack believes this…

    Of course, it’s common knowledge that Americans are more discreet and more private. Especially when bathing. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s just funny that they are that way, but then they are ok with crazy online content that is easily accessible. Anyway, I’m not in the mood today to bash Americans. 🙂

    If you see a husky straight looking man at a US beach wearing a speedo he is probably German. The gays will only wear speedos if they are in shape.

    True masculinity doesn’t just hide in one’s speedos or boxers (respectfully), but in one’s head and actions. So nothing to be ashamed about. 🙂

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @LatW

    I wasn’t really talking about the “speedo vs boxers” phenomenon (I’m not yet decided on that one as I find both of those quite acceptable with the right kind of… ehem, “wearer”). I was talking about racial characteristics.

    I'm just saying they are easier to spot based on what they wear.

    I agree that they aren't tall and blond as most assume.

    Germans look pretty similar to Americans which shouldn't be a surprise.

    It's the Dutch that are tall. The French do look a bit different in person but not in a bad way. They are more ethnic looking than in pictures and the movies. They had some nomadic tribes sample their women way back and you can see it in some of the men. I don't mind the women but the men can be really annoying. I'd much rather hang out with Slavs.

    I’m just suspecting that some of the blonder Ukrainians carry the genetics of hundreds of years back, not since the 1940s or just a couple of hundred years ago.

    You are correct and I already posted a DNA study on how they are more likely to have Nordic DNA than the Russians. That shouldn't be a surprise given the history of the area (Swedish Empire) but I've had a few pro-Putin posters flip out by the mere suggestion. I guess they imagined Russians to be purebred Slavs or something. Probably Tucker fans that think racial diversity only exists in Western Europe.

    True masculinity doesn’t just hide in one’s speedos or boxers (respectfully), but in one’s head and actions. So nothing to be ashamed about.

    I don't think it has anything to do with masculinity.

    Some men really poke out in speedos and I get why some people would rather not have that around the pool and especially if there are kids. But I don't care and I grew up going to the pool so it's really not a big deal to me. Germans crack me up and I laugh when I see one in a speedo holding a beer and shout-talking. It's all fine.

  348. @Derer
    @AP


    Putin retarded Russia’s progress when he grabbed Crimea in 2014.
     
    It was Communist politburo in 1954 that grabbed Crimea from Russia. You have convenient gaps in history. It was Putin's duty to get it back by referendum when Washington warmongers in 2014 wanted to put military base there.

    US sanctions, assets theft and arming Ukraine has elevated the Washington sinister players to enemy status #1 and now prime target of ballistic missiles including nuclear. The Russian public opinion is all behind that undertaking. Restoration of good relations is destroyed for generations, especially after cowardly state terrorism on Russian civilian pipeline, bridges or concert. The culprits will pay dearly for those atrocities.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    It was Communist politburo in 1954 that grabbed Crimea from Russia. You have convenient gaps in history. It was Putin’s duty to get it back by referendum when Washington warmongers in 2014 wanted to put military base there.

    US sanctions, assets theft and arming Ukraine has elevated the Washington sinister players to enemy status #1 and now prime target of ballistic missiles including nuclear. The Russian public opinion is all behind that undertaking. Restoration of good relations is destroyed for generations, especially after cowardly state terrorism on Russian civilian pipeline, bridges or concert. The culprits will pay dearly for those atrocities.

    Neocons faultily like bringing up Chamberlain and appeasement. Appeasement would’ve seen instances like Russia not responding to the coup action in Kiev and allowing for the Kiev regime to forcefully take Donbass.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mikhail

    Chamberlain declared ww2. Over the Polish German border. To protect Jews if he could.

  349. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Makes me wonder what else is buried out there!

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    What fortifications are required to keep a badger out of a chicken coop?

  350. @LatW
    @Beckow


    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals
     
    Seriously? You had women in top leadership roles?? Or are you talking just minor level functionaries? Maybe that's because you guys were less "hardcore totalitarian" than the real Soviets. In the real Soviet system, the women were made to do all the low level, hard work (with the exception of a few artists and similar "light" professions who served the system, although they did need to have some real talent), the top functionaries were always men (often not very impressive ones - I think many of the better men had been pushed away and emasculated).

    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.

    So that's a difference there (if it is as you say). Yours sound almost like Gro Harlem Brundtland, a 1980s Nordic political icon, - although she was a real strong politician who kind of stood on her own regardless of the Nordic political culture and was competent, unlike those Sovok and Warsaw pact marionettes.

    And, yes, the Thracians migrated from the East (as many of us did), I figure this musician who was scorned by Plato was most likely from the south, but was just wondering - there were probably all kinds of traveling bards and musicians even back then.

    (Although apparently only Greek citizens were allowed as actors in Greek theater).

    As to the Greek descriptions of the Thracian's sexual mores, one would have to look closer at those sources - the Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers by the Greeks so in that setting they may have been more promiscuous and careless since they would've been away from their core societies that would normally hold them to stricter behavior norms.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    …You had women in top leadership roles?

    Depends on how you define the top. I was a kid, I only dealt with the locals who made us salute and twice a year march into the woods for drills. They were mostly fat, aging women – the local secretary was probably drunk so he delegated. The very top had old guys – not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.

    The top guys seemed powerless, they read on TV long lists of complaints: people don’t work hard enough, there is theft!, milk is watery, peasants come to cities to buy subsidized bread to feed to pigs… They were whiners and nobody was afraid of them – the whole “totalitarian” bull never made much sense to me. I am baptized, we travelled to the West (you needed money), we had no party members.

    When I first heard at US university about my totalitarian country, I said the above and the prof actually whispered: “don’t say that, we know…but ‘Stalin’ and ‘Khmer Rouge’ (?)…we can’t say that, I could lose my job!” I told him it sounds like he lived in totalitarianism. He giggled like the Westies always do when caught in propaganda. (Some also dig through “data” like AP, but he is moron.)

    Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers, so…

    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were. (They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now.) It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant – it wasn’t about the language sounds…

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now
     
    The reputation of Ukie women is largely based on the abundance of Ukrainian prostitutes in Europe, Turkey, Arab countries, as well as in Russia. Russian prostitutes even complained that Ukie whores are taking away their business because they charge less for the same services.

    However, this reputation does not necessarily apply to the majority of Ukrainian women. Not all Ukie women are sluts. Not all sluts are Ukie women.
    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Did you have one of those spiffy outfits?

    https://i23.delachieve.com/image/707467357db40ec9.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    , @Wokechoke
    @Beckow

    Anthony Beevor really is quite annoying these days.

    , @LatW
    @Beckow


    The very top had old guys – not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.
     
    When I remember those guys, vaguely, they just seem so boring to me now.

    The top guys seemed powerless
     
    Not the ones from Moscow, they weren't. The local ones... depends on situations.

    I am baptized
     
    Well, that doesn't mean the church was fully free. The powers had to respect some of the tradition, but the longer it lasted, the further it could've been driven out. It was getting more and more secularized. It also depended on the individual family. It's important how the middle generation acted, as always (even though the grandparents are important, too).

    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were.
     

    Well, the Greeks would've been biased against them, although they did have looser norms and they had polygamy, but it sounds like the kind of polygamy that could've been controlled by the women.

    It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant – it wasn’t about the language sounds…
     
    Of course, not, I already noted that it was a civilizational delineation. But it could be that when there is an interaction of cultures, that might affect norms. Also, if the men were renowned warriors, they may not have had that much time to build and enforce norms. It's a philosophical question on how to define barbarian - it can be norms, it can be metal working (which the Thracians had and it was quite beautiful), culture, it can be religion. They had a beautiful culture, even if not as refined and advanced as Greek (and they were hellenized).

    As to the IE language relation, you're right that they are close to Baltic - some words in Dacian are literally Lithuanian. The Baltic language was spread out across a large territory, there were some around the Dniepr, too. Most likely they were still left in the southeast, even if some were already in the north. To me east-west - those are situational categories, the culture / language was the same, one. That's what matters to me.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @LatW
    @Beckow


    what the term Barbarian really meant
     
    A lot of it could also be about status at any given time. If the other culture (or the culture of the other) is considered more fringe or if it's not the high status culture (e.g., "Greek", "Roman", "Western" these days, "Russian / Muscovite" in the Soviet days), then it will be denigrated. Who are the ones to judge this? Am I using too much of deconstructionist "post-colonial" lingo here?

    Then again, I don't want to blame Plato for any of this - most likely, he did have an exquisite taste (and the Greek culture is objectively superior). And this musician from Thrace may not have been that good...

    Replies: @Beckow

  351. @LatW
    @John Johnson


    I wasn't really talking about the "speedo vs boxers" phenomenon (I'm not yet decided on that one as I find both of those quite acceptable with the right kind of... ehem, "wearer"). I was talking about racial characteristics. I'm just suspecting that some of the blonder Ukrainians carry the genetics of hundreds of years back, not since the 1940s or just a couple of hundred years ago. I base this on their facial features which are quite different from German and Nordic. And even in some cases Western Slavic.

    I'm a bit puzzled why Hack believes this...

    Of course, it's common knowledge that Americans are more discreet and more private. Especially when bathing. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just funny that they are that way, but then they are ok with crazy online content that is easily accessible. Anyway, I'm not in the mood today to bash Americans. :)


    If you see a husky straight looking man at a US beach wearing a speedo he is probably German. The gays will only wear speedos if they are in shape.
     
    True masculinity doesn't just hide in one's speedos or boxers (respectfully), but in one's head and actions. So nothing to be ashamed about. :)

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I wasn’t really talking about the “speedo vs boxers” phenomenon (I’m not yet decided on that one as I find both of those quite acceptable with the right kind of… ehem, “wearer”). I was talking about racial characteristics.

    I’m just saying they are easier to spot based on what they wear.

    I agree that they aren’t tall and blond as most assume.

    Germans look pretty similar to Americans which shouldn’t be a surprise.

    It’s the Dutch that are tall. The French do look a bit different in person but not in a bad way. They are more ethnic looking than in pictures and the movies. They had some nomadic tribes sample their women way back and you can see it in some of the men. I don’t mind the women but the men can be really annoying. I’d much rather hang out with Slavs.

    I’m just suspecting that some of the blonder Ukrainians carry the genetics of hundreds of years back, not since the 1940s or just a couple of hundred years ago.

    You are correct and I already posted a DNA study on how they are more likely to have Nordic DNA than the Russians. That shouldn’t be a surprise given the history of the area (Swedish Empire) but I’ve had a few pro-Putin posters flip out by the mere suggestion. I guess they imagined Russians to be purebred Slavs or something. Probably Tucker fans that think racial diversity only exists in Western Europe.

    True masculinity doesn’t just hide in one’s speedos or boxers (respectfully), but in one’s head and actions. So nothing to be ashamed about.

    I don’t think it has anything to do with masculinity.

    Some men really poke out in speedos and I get why some people would rather not have that around the pool and especially if there are kids. But I don’t care and I grew up going to the pool so it’s really not a big deal to me. Germans crack me up and I laugh when I see one in a speedo holding a beer and shout-talking. It’s all fine.

  352. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...You had women in top leadership roles?
     
    Depends on how you define the top. I was a kid, I only dealt with the locals who made us salute and twice a year march into the woods for drills. They were mostly fat, aging women - the local secretary was probably drunk so he delegated. The very top had old guys - not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.

    The top guys seemed powerless, they read on TV long lists of complaints: people don't work hard enough, there is theft!, milk is watery, peasants come to cities to buy subsidized bread to feed to pigs... They were whiners and nobody was afraid of them - the whole "totalitarian" bull never made much sense to me. I am baptized, we travelled to the West (you needed money), we had no party members.

    When I first heard at US university about my totalitarian country, I said the above and the prof actually whispered: "don't say that, we know...but 'Stalin' and 'Khmer Rouge' (?)...we can't say that, I could lose my job!" I told him it sounds like he lived in totalitarianism. He giggled like the Westies always do when caught in propaganda. (Some also dig through "data" like AP, but he is moron.)


    Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers, so...
     
    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were. (They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now.) It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant - it wasn't about the language sounds...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke, @LatW, @LatW

    They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now

    The reputation of Ukie women is largely based on the abundance of Ukrainian prostitutes in Europe, Turkey, Arab countries, as well as in Russia. Russian prostitutes even complained that Ukie whores are taking away their business because they charge less for the same services.

    However, this reputation does not necessarily apply to the majority of Ukrainian women. Not all Ukie women are sluts. Not all sluts are Ukie women.

  353. @Wokechoke
    Anyone yet seen this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbGz2x_v1ho


    It’s worth watching twice to see how Beevor hems and haws.


    Fascinating how Myrie is so clued in about Bucha. They discuss mass slaughter of civvies by Germany, Spanish civil war and Russian civil war. Then they discuss Bucha. Was this filmed before the Jews flattened Gaza or after though?

    I get a sense that a former Army officer like Beevor doesn’t think any Russian ever did anything right and Myrie wants to have his knighthood and eat it too.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @YetAnotherAnon

    Is that Clive Myrie, the new black intellectual explainer on the block? Does University Challenge?

    He’d probably been well briefed in advance about Evil Russia’s Bucha Massacre.

    “Was this filmed before the Jews flattened Gaza or after though?”

    Does it matter? Gaza is The Genocide Not To Be Named (if you want an establishment media career).

  354. @John Johnson
    More video on pro-Russian American that went to fight for Russian values and was buttraped by Russian soldiers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esC4G1_1J5E

    Replies: @Derer, @QCIC

    If you think that’s bad, wait until the FABs start landing in Kiev and Dnipro. I think Bentley would understand why the Russians may need to attack Kiev and Odessa (for different reasons) so that wording in the interview seems odd. I understand he wouldn’t like it, none of us do.

    Great job, morons.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    If you think that’s bad, wait until the FABs start landing in Kiev and Dnipro. I think Bentley would understand why the Russians may need to attack Kiev and Odessa

    Bentley was buttraped and murdered. I don't know why you would speculate on what he thought about Russian strategy. He most likely died hating all Russians and didn't give a frig about their war.

    Lavrov already talked about a demilitarized buffer zone and Putin supposedly gave the orders to take the rest of the DPR.

    That sounds like he has no intention of marching on Kiev. He most likely wants to lock up the former DPR/LPR and raise his "mission accomplished" banner. His State TV won't talk of his original goal of stopping the Eastward expansion of NATO.

    How would they take Odessa? It was never pro-separatist. You can't dump demoralized conscripts on a hostile port city. They'll just walk away. Retreat guards only work on an open front. Do you realize how easy it is to gun down a dozen conscripts in an urban area? For nasty urban warfare you need dedicated troops.

    Great job, morons.

    Russia was wealthier, healthier, had much better international standing and NATO had two fewer states before the 2.5 week special operation now on day 790.

    Who is the moron in all of this? Not sure what you mean.

    Replies: @QCIC

  355. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...You had women in top leadership roles?
     
    Depends on how you define the top. I was a kid, I only dealt with the locals who made us salute and twice a year march into the woods for drills. They were mostly fat, aging women - the local secretary was probably drunk so he delegated. The very top had old guys - not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.

    The top guys seemed powerless, they read on TV long lists of complaints: people don't work hard enough, there is theft!, milk is watery, peasants come to cities to buy subsidized bread to feed to pigs... They were whiners and nobody was afraid of them - the whole "totalitarian" bull never made much sense to me. I am baptized, we travelled to the West (you needed money), we had no party members.

    When I first heard at US university about my totalitarian country, I said the above and the prof actually whispered: "don't say that, we know...but 'Stalin' and 'Khmer Rouge' (?)...we can't say that, I could lose my job!" I told him it sounds like he lived in totalitarianism. He giggled like the Westies always do when caught in propaganda. (Some also dig through "data" like AP, but he is moron.)


    Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers, so...
     
    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were. (They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now.) It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant - it wasn't about the language sounds...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke, @LatW, @LatW

    Did you have one of those spiffy outfits?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Only for a short time. I didn't pay my dues and was suspended. With no computers I don't think anyone even knew who was in and who wasn't - quite a totalitarianism, in US about 100 corporations and of course the government knows 1,000 times more about everyone. But they hallucinate about how others were under 'total surveillance'.

    I knew a few girls who marched around in those outfits - girls are always more conformist. Not a bad look.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Did you have one of those spiffy outfits?
     
    These are “young pioneer” uniforms and neckties. “Young pioneers” are equivalent of boy/girl scouts in Anglo countries. You won’t see these neckties in Russia any more, but you can see them in China (their neckties have about half this width; I guess to be more economical, considering Chinese population).

    In the USSR “young pioneers” paid no dues. The next step (starting from 14 years of age) was young communist league (Komsomol in Russian), who actually had to pay dues. When I was in Komsomol the dues for school children were 2 kopecks per month (for comparison, tram ticket was 3 kopecks, trolley ticket – 4 kopecks, bus and metro ticket – 5 kopecks, a loaf of bread was 16 kopecks, minimum wage was 60 rubles = 6,000 kopecks).

  356. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    What is a “sovok“?
     
    In late USSR sovok meant yes-man first and foremost. We naively believed that this is a specific Soviet phenomenon. Now I know that we were wrong.

    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals
     
    You guys had greater variety. Soviet “leaders” were mostly careerists with morals of snakes and intellectual abilities of PE teachers. Some were alcoholics, some did not drink much. None was a pervert. I think many suffered from erectile dysfunction, not necessarily because of old age. Many of them turned out to be so pathologically greedy that they destroyed the country and the system to get an opportunity to steal more. We were stupid enough to go along with this. As Dostoevsky said, being intelligent is not enough to behave intelligently.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …We naively believed that this is a specific Soviet phenomenon.

    That is bad enough. But the real problem is that most Westies are brainwashed into believing it was only specific to Soviets…that bizarre belief brought us to today’s dramatic point in human history: total Western mental chaos, like lemming kids blabbering nonsense as they march into oblivion.

    Many of them turned out to be so pathologically greedy that they destroyed the country and the system to get an opportunity to steal more.

    They believed in materialism so the greed came naturally. That is pretty common around the world but commies were amateurs compared to most of world, novices suddenly living in a land of plenty. They couldn’t avoid the temptation and post 1950’s there was really no fear of consequences. It was caused by the fact that they managed to build fairly prosperous countries by 1970’s. But I agree that a little bit of morality wouldn’t hurt.

  357. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    As a side note, I wonder if the current child support laws are actually eugenic or dysgenic right now. Do you have any thoughts on this?

    I think Karlin is dipping too much into Sci-Fi even though I assume designer babies will someday be available. The costs of simply removing one gene are still astronomical so I think such talk is premature. By the time such technology is widely available we could already be a Mad Max type dystopia from dysgenics or environmental destruction. But let's first hope that gene therapy for common gene diseases becomes a widespread practice.

    As for your question I suspect child support laws are slightly eugenic even though I oppose them in their current design. I simply think they are unfair to men and especially in cases where the woman was at fault in the divorce.

    Under current laws the woman can ditch the first family and start a new one while having secured funding for existing children. In most states the woman can basically decide who gets the kids. I think women are craftier than they let on when it comes to having children. Meaning I think they put more thought into the sperm than what Christian society wants to believe. If they marry young (often out of Christian guilt) they are much more likely to get divorced. I think in their second marriage they are more likely to upgrade so to speak. If they really don't like the husband then I think they consider that when having children. It's like moving in with someone and realizing you don't want to make more of that person.

    I also think single moms are more selective than people realize. I worked with liberal White women and I noticed a pattern with the single moms whereby the "whoops one night stand" tended to not be as random as it might appear. One homely woman "just happened" to somehow snare the sperm of various handsome men. I was actually quite impressed as she was very unattractive.

    I used to know this guy who was very homely but a great worker. He lived with a woman and her two very cute girls that were definitely not his. All just fate of the gods? Hmmmm guessing not and there was no talk of her having more kids. There is a Sociology study somewhere that shows how most children of never-married single moms are not accidents as everyone assumes. Women think more like dog breeders than they let on. My wife said that certain types of ears would definitely not get a second date as she wouldn't want her kids to have them. Men don't think this way. They'll take some weird ears as long as they get laid.

    But an interesting question and I will give it some more thought.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @YetAnotherAnon

    “Women think more like dog breeders than they let on.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis

    “states that a female’s ideal mate choice among potential mates is one whose genes will produce males with the best chance of reproductive success. This implies that other benefits the father can offer the mother or offspring are less relevant than they may appear, including his capacity as a parental caregiver, territory and any nuptial gifts.”

    If true, it may explain the depressing fact that prisoners apparently father more kids than those never imprisoned, despite the incapacitance effect of being banged up. Difficult to find the stats but I think Sailer has mentioned it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/oct/06/over-100000-children-in-england-and-wales-have-parent-in-prison-analysis-shows

    • Replies: @LatW
    @YetAnotherAnon


    If true, it may explain the depressing fact that prisoners apparently father more kids than those never imprisoned
     
    Probably just the hot prisoners or the more charismatic ones, not all of them, also they probably care less about spreading their material, so to speak. A woman would choose a prisoner not because he's a prisoner, but for other qualities, some of which may have landed him in prison. And they do come out eventually.

    (p.s. Not endorsing any of this, just saying).

    Replies: @John Johnson

  358. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Did you have one of those spiffy outfits?

    https://i23.delachieve.com/image/707467357db40ec9.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    Only for a short time. I didn’t pay my dues and was suspended. With no computers I don’t think anyone even knew who was in and who wasn’t – quite a totalitarianism, in US about 100 corporations and of course the government knows 1,000 times more about everyone. But they hallucinate about how others were under ‘total surveillance’.

    I knew a few girls who marched around in those outfits – girls are always more conformist. Not a bad look.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    I knew a few girls who marched around in those outfits – girls are always more conformist. Not a bad look.
     
    Oh gosh, imagine "pioneer Manga"... lol. No thanks.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    in US about 100 corporations and of course the government knows 1,000 times more about everyone. But they hallucinate about how others were under ‘total surveillance’.
     
    KGB could not even dream of the level of surveillance in today’s West. Part of it is technology, the other part is the nature of the organization. With all due disrespect for KGB (I am sure they had a file on me, in Soviet times I used to be pretty outspoken), compared to the CIA, MI6, Mossad, or Ukie SBU, KGB was a highly moral organization. If you take the repulsiveness of CIA or Gestapo as 100, Soviet KGB hardly reached even 30. Still pretty repulsive from my POW, though.
  359. @Mikhail
    @Derer


    It was Communist politburo in 1954 that grabbed Crimea from Russia. You have convenient gaps in history. It was Putin’s duty to get it back by referendum when Washington warmongers in 2014 wanted to put military base there.

    US sanctions, assets theft and arming Ukraine has elevated the Washington sinister players to enemy status #1 and now prime target of ballistic missiles including nuclear. The Russian public opinion is all behind that undertaking. Restoration of good relations is destroyed for generations, especially after cowardly state terrorism on Russian civilian pipeline, bridges or concert. The culprits will pay dearly for those atrocities.
     
    Neocons faultily like bringing up Chamberlain and appeasement. Appeasement would've seen instances like Russia not responding to the coup action in Kiev and allowing for the Kiev regime to forcefully take Donbass.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Chamberlain declared ww2. Over the Polish German border. To protect Jews if he could.

  360. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...You had women in top leadership roles?
     
    Depends on how you define the top. I was a kid, I only dealt with the locals who made us salute and twice a year march into the woods for drills. They were mostly fat, aging women - the local secretary was probably drunk so he delegated. The very top had old guys - not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.

    The top guys seemed powerless, they read on TV long lists of complaints: people don't work hard enough, there is theft!, milk is watery, peasants come to cities to buy subsidized bread to feed to pigs... They were whiners and nobody was afraid of them - the whole "totalitarian" bull never made much sense to me. I am baptized, we travelled to the West (you needed money), we had no party members.

    When I first heard at US university about my totalitarian country, I said the above and the prof actually whispered: "don't say that, we know...but 'Stalin' and 'Khmer Rouge' (?)...we can't say that, I could lose my job!" I told him it sounds like he lived in totalitarianism. He giggled like the Westies always do when caught in propaganda. (Some also dig through "data" like AP, but he is moron.)


    Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers, so...
     
    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were. (They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now.) It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant - it wasn't about the language sounds...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke, @LatW, @LatW

    Anthony Beevor really is quite annoying these days.

  361. A123 says: • Website

    Hamas attacks the Veggie-In-Chief’s Hamas resupply pier: (1)

    “Members of a terror group in the Gaza Strip launched mortars at an under-construction pier for a US-led project to bring aid into the Palestinian enclave yesterday, the military says,” as cited in Times of Israel. “The mortar attack occurred as United Nations officials were touring the site with Israeli troops on the coast of central Gaza, the IDF says in response to a query on the incident.”

    Officials said there were no casualties, but the IDF rushed the visiting UN officials to shelter. The UN subsequently also acknowledged the unprecedented attack on the site.

    “The terrorist organizations continue to systematically harm humanitarian efforts while risking the lives of UN workers, while Israel allows the supply of aid to the residents of the Gaza Strip,” the IDF added in its statement.

    It is really hard to determine how this interaction of stupid, stupider, and stupidest will turn out.

    Will the UN/NWO continue to support Hamas after being targeted by Islamic terror? In any sane world the answer would be “No!” Yet… The UN/NWO is so Islamophile, they will back the genocidal maniacs who attacked them.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pier-us-led-gaza-aid-project-comes-under-fire-un-officials-toured-site

  362. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...You had women in top leadership roles?
     
    Depends on how you define the top. I was a kid, I only dealt with the locals who made us salute and twice a year march into the woods for drills. They were mostly fat, aging women - the local secretary was probably drunk so he delegated. The very top had old guys - not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.

    The top guys seemed powerless, they read on TV long lists of complaints: people don't work hard enough, there is theft!, milk is watery, peasants come to cities to buy subsidized bread to feed to pigs... They were whiners and nobody was afraid of them - the whole "totalitarian" bull never made much sense to me. I am baptized, we travelled to the West (you needed money), we had no party members.

    When I first heard at US university about my totalitarian country, I said the above and the prof actually whispered: "don't say that, we know...but 'Stalin' and 'Khmer Rouge' (?)...we can't say that, I could lose my job!" I told him it sounds like he lived in totalitarianism. He giggled like the Westies always do when caught in propaganda. (Some also dig through "data" like AP, but he is moron.)


    Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers, so...
     
    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were. (They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now.) It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant - it wasn't about the language sounds...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke, @LatW, @LatW

    The very top had old guys – not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.

    When I remember those guys, vaguely, they just seem so boring to me now.

    The top guys seemed powerless

    Not the ones from Moscow, they weren’t. The local ones… depends on situations.

    I am baptized

    Well, that doesn’t mean the church was fully free. The powers had to respect some of the tradition, but the longer it lasted, the further it could’ve been driven out. It was getting more and more secularized. It also depended on the individual family. It’s important how the middle generation acted, as always (even though the grandparents are important, too).

    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were.

    Well, the Greeks would’ve been biased against them, although they did have looser norms and they had polygamy, but it sounds like the kind of polygamy that could’ve been controlled by the women.

    It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant – it wasn’t about the language sounds…

    Of course, not, I already noted that it was a civilizational delineation. But it could be that when there is an interaction of cultures, that might affect norms. Also, if the men were renowned warriors, they may not have had that much time to build and enforce norms. It’s a philosophical question on how to define barbarian – it can be norms, it can be metal working (which the Thracians had and it was quite beautiful), culture, it can be religion. They had a beautiful culture, even if not as refined and advanced as Greek (and they were hellenized).

    As to the IE language relation, you’re right that they are close to Baltic – some words in Dacian are literally Lithuanian. The Baltic language was spread out across a large territory, there were some around the Dniepr, too. Most likely they were still left in the southeast, even if some were already in the north. To me east-west – those are situational categories, the culture / language was the same, one. That’s what matters to me.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...that doesn’t mean the church was fully free.
     
    What does "fully free" mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980's anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying. (I don't know about the Soviets.)

    For most of my friends it was a personal choice, few were very religious but some were more atheist than the government. Most were unsure, in the middle, changing mind - very similar to the West. This nonsense that "Church was banned" or that "people had to smuggle in Bibles" is a very stupid Westie propaganda. I have heard "educated" Westies claim that. One told me "sure, you could go to Church but you could get shot for it". How do you deal with propaganda that deep? And who are the stupid ones here?

    Let's not feed the idiocy. It wasn't perfect - it never is - but Christianity was not banned and the believer-agnostic-atheist dynamic was quite similar to other societies. What they really objected to is that the Christian hierarchy didn't control the state institutions.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP, @AnonfromTN

  363. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Did you have one of those spiffy outfits?

    https://i23.delachieve.com/image/707467357db40ec9.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    Did you have one of those spiffy outfits?

    These are “young pioneer” uniforms and neckties. “Young pioneers” are equivalent of boy/girl scouts in Anglo countries. You won’t see these neckties in Russia any more, but you can see them in China (their neckties have about half this width; I guess to be more economical, considering Chinese population).

    In the USSR “young pioneers” paid no dues. The next step (starting from 14 years of age) was young communist league (Komsomol in Russian), who actually had to pay dues. When I was in Komsomol the dues for school children were 2 kopecks per month (for comparison, tram ticket was 3 kopecks, trolley ticket – 4 kopecks, bus and metro ticket – 5 kopecks, a loaf of bread was 16 kopecks, minimum wage was 60 rubles = 6,000 kopecks).

  364. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Only for a short time. I didn't pay my dues and was suspended. With no computers I don't think anyone even knew who was in and who wasn't - quite a totalitarianism, in US about 100 corporations and of course the government knows 1,000 times more about everyone. But they hallucinate about how others were under 'total surveillance'.

    I knew a few girls who marched around in those outfits - girls are always more conformist. Not a bad look.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    I knew a few girls who marched around in those outfits – girls are always more conformist. Not a bad look.

    Oh gosh, imagine “pioneer Manga”… lol. No thanks.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    Off-topic, but you might enjoy what I wrote on the online grave page for the mother of one of the judges whom I have e-mailed to:

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143621126/dorothy_i_shepard

    I have, of course, told this very judge this exact same thing via recorded phone message.

    Replies: @LatW

  365. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...You had women in top leadership roles?
     
    Depends on how you define the top. I was a kid, I only dealt with the locals who made us salute and twice a year march into the woods for drills. They were mostly fat, aging women - the local secretary was probably drunk so he delegated. The very top had old guys - not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.

    The top guys seemed powerless, they read on TV long lists of complaints: people don't work hard enough, there is theft!, milk is watery, peasants come to cities to buy subsidized bread to feed to pigs... They were whiners and nobody was afraid of them - the whole "totalitarian" bull never made much sense to me. I am baptized, we travelled to the West (you needed money), we had no party members.

    When I first heard at US university about my totalitarian country, I said the above and the prof actually whispered: "don't say that, we know...but 'Stalin' and 'Khmer Rouge' (?)...we can't say that, I could lose my job!" I told him it sounds like he lived in totalitarianism. He giggled like the Westies always do when caught in propaganda. (Some also dig through "data" like AP, but he is moron.)


    Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers, so...
     
    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were. (They had the kind of reputation the Ukie women have now.) It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant - it wasn't about the language sounds...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke, @LatW, @LatW

    what the term Barbarian really meant

    A lot of it could also be about status at any given time. If the other culture (or the culture of the other) is considered more fringe or if it’s not the high status culture (e.g., “Greek”, “Roman”, “Western” these days, “Russian / Muscovite” in the Soviet days), then it will be denigrated. Who are the ones to judge this? Am I using too much of deconstructionist “post-colonial” lingo here?

    Then again, I don’t want to blame Plato for any of this – most likely, he did have an exquisite taste (and the Greek culture is objectively superior). And this musician from Thrace may not have been that good…

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...the Greek culture is objectively superior
     
    Probably, but we don't know for sure. Greeks, Rome and Christian Church worked hard to destroy all writing and artifacts from the 'barbarian' cultures. For example Dacians had a sophisticated civilization based on archeology and almost nothing got preserved. Dacians were related to Thracians. It would be interesting to see what the Thracians thought of the Greeks.

    It is likely that a large percentage of all ancient cultures was not preserved. The exclusivity that we see today that claims that there were Sumer, Egypt, Greece, Rome and a few others is based on what was preserved not on what actually existed. When we hear that the Greeks invented 'democracy' it has about as much value as when Americans claim that they wrote the "first Constitution".

    Ethno-narcissism is very common, Anglos are only the latest and most visible sufferers.

    Replies: @LatW

  366. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "Women think more like dog breeders than they let on."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis

    "states that a female's ideal mate choice among potential mates is one whose genes will produce males with the best chance of reproductive success. This implies that other benefits the father can offer the mother or offspring are less relevant than they may appear, including his capacity as a parental caregiver, territory and any nuptial gifts."



    If true, it may explain the depressing fact that prisoners apparently father more kids than those never imprisoned, despite the incapacitance effect of being banged up. Difficult to find the stats but I think Sailer has mentioned it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/oct/06/over-100000-children-in-england-and-wales-have-parent-in-prison-analysis-shows

    Replies: @LatW

    If true, it may explain the depressing fact that prisoners apparently father more kids than those never imprisoned

    Probably just the hot prisoners or the more charismatic ones, not all of them, also they probably care less about spreading their material, so to speak. A woman would choose a prisoner not because he’s a prisoner, but for other qualities, some of which may have landed him in prison. And they do come out eventually.

    (p.s. Not endorsing any of this, just saying).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Probably just the hot prisoners or the more charismatic ones, not all of them, also they probably care less about spreading their material, so to speak. A woman would choose a prisoner not because he’s a prisoner, but for other qualities, some of which may have landed him in prison. And they do come out eventually.

    I don't think looks or charisma explain most of the cases.

    Most people in prison are hopeless criminals. They really don't function in society and aren't charming or handsome like criminals in the movies. They have been given multiple chances and keep going back over stupid crimes. I knew someone who worked in prison and she had to quit because she couldn't handle how evil some of the inmates were. It conflicted with her ideals of redemption.

    It probably has more to do with genes for high testosterone and sociopathy or psychopathy.

    A combination that makes women tingle due to their natural attraction to the "challenger male" that isn't afraid of combating the alpha in charge of the group. He smites then alpha and then mates with all the women. It's a high risk/high gain evolutionary strategy for the male. The women benefit regardless.

    But in any prison/procreation study you would really have to break it down by race because it will be skewed by Blacks.

    However I'm sure it is still true for Whites. I don't doubt that White criminals have more children than White engineers.

    Replies: @LatW

  367. @LatW
    @Beckow


    I knew a few girls who marched around in those outfits – girls are always more conformist. Not a bad look.
     
    Oh gosh, imagine "pioneer Manga"... lol. No thanks.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Off-topic, but you might enjoy what I wrote on the online grave page for the mother of one of the judges whom I have e-mailed to:

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143621126/dorothy_i_shepard

    I have, of course, told this very judge this exact same thing via recorded phone message.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    What might help sometimes is physical solutions to mental problems (such as overthinking). Have you ever tried those healing spa treatments where you go into a sauna (or a banya, same thing) and have somebody (preferably an experienced ancestral healer) smack you lightly (or not so lightly) all over the body with fragrant, leafy birch tree branches? I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, it's a thing in EE, a traditional, old school method (sometimes called "Dr Birch Tree"). It might help if you did this regularly.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/5c/1a/6c5c1a670e22e5dd002023b60009426e.gif

    Replies: @QCIC

  368. This story about AI voice racism was very interesting, IMO.

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/the-final-frontier-of-hate-crime-hoax-appears-black-high-school-athletic-director-used-ai-to-fake-racist-recording-of-white-principal-arrested/

    Am thinking that there was probably some tag in the audio.

    But it begs the question whether future AI fakes will be made without any tags or telltales, and what might be the political consequences of such technology.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    But it begs the question whether future AI fakes will be made without any tags or telltales
     
    In the US I can tell you with 99.9% certainty whether the person I speak to on the phone is black or white. Hispanics, Chinese, and Indians are only recognizable by characteristic mistakes in English grammar and pronunciation. So, if you remove all telltales, the AI would speak like a white person. This is politically incorrect.

    Replies: @songbird

  369. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Only for a short time. I didn't pay my dues and was suspended. With no computers I don't think anyone even knew who was in and who wasn't - quite a totalitarianism, in US about 100 corporations and of course the government knows 1,000 times more about everyone. But they hallucinate about how others were under 'total surveillance'.

    I knew a few girls who marched around in those outfits - girls are always more conformist. Not a bad look.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    in US about 100 corporations and of course the government knows 1,000 times more about everyone. But they hallucinate about how others were under ‘total surveillance’.

    KGB could not even dream of the level of surveillance in today’s West. Part of it is technology, the other part is the nature of the organization. With all due disrespect for KGB (I am sure they had a file on me, in Soviet times I used to be pretty outspoken), compared to the CIA, MI6, Mossad, or Ukie SBU, KGB was a highly moral organization. If you take the repulsiveness of CIA or Gestapo as 100, Soviet KGB hardly reached even 30. Still pretty repulsive from my POW, though.

  370. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    If you think that's bad, wait until the FABs start landing in Kiev and Dnipro. I think Bentley would understand why the Russians may need to attack Kiev and Odessa (for different reasons) so that wording in the interview seems odd. I understand he wouldn't like it, none of us do.

    Great job, morons.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    If you think that’s bad, wait until the FABs start landing in Kiev and Dnipro. I think Bentley would understand why the Russians may need to attack Kiev and Odessa

    Bentley was buttraped and murdered. I don’t know why you would speculate on what he thought about Russian strategy. He most likely died hating all Russians and didn’t give a frig about their war.

    Lavrov already talked about a demilitarized buffer zone and Putin supposedly gave the orders to take the rest of the DPR.

    That sounds like he has no intention of marching on Kiev. He most likely wants to lock up the former DPR/LPR and raise his “mission accomplished” banner. His State TV won’t talk of his original goal of stopping the Eastward expansion of NATO.

    How would they take Odessa? It was never pro-separatist. You can’t dump demoralized conscripts on a hostile port city. They’ll just walk away. Retreat guards only work on an open front. Do you realize how easy it is to gun down a dozen conscripts in an urban area? For nasty urban warfare you need dedicated troops.

    Great job, morons.

    Russia was wealthier, healthier, had much better international standing and NATO had two fewer states before the 2.5 week special operation now on day 790.

    Who is the moron in all of this? Not sure what you mean.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Th morons in this are the people supporting the Western aggression against Russia justified by a manipulated situation in Ukraine. The downsides include more than a half-million good people dead or wounded, massive degradation of Western credibility over Nord Stream and bogus sanctions (especially financial credibility), not to mention bad blood which will last for a generation. This was part of an intentional process which raised the risk of nuclear war from negligible to substantial. We know which side you are on. Great job, moron.

    The short-term reason for Russia to control Odessa is to stop marine transport of weapons into Ukraine. This step seems almost inevitable, but I don't know the schedule.

    I guess you saw the report that nuclear-armed Iskander missiles are now on duty in the North to keep Finland in line. I don't know if it is true, but it seems plausible.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  371. @songbird
    This story about AI voice racism was very interesting, IMO.

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/the-final-frontier-of-hate-crime-hoax-appears-black-high-school-athletic-director-used-ai-to-fake-racist-recording-of-white-principal-arrested/

    Am thinking that there was probably some tag in the audio.

    But it begs the question whether future AI fakes will be made without any tags or telltales, and what might be the political consequences of such technology.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    But it begs the question whether future AI fakes will be made without any tags or telltales

    In the US I can tell you with 99.9% certainty whether the person I speak to on the phone is black or white. Hispanics, Chinese, and Indians are only recognizable by characteristic mistakes in English grammar and pronunciation. So, if you remove all telltales, the AI would speak like a white person. This is politically incorrect.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AnonfromTN

    What I was referring to is a digital signature which is intentionally inserted into AI voice mimicry of real humans in order to show that the voice is inauthentic. The signature is subliminal.

    I imagine whatever tool the guy in the story used inserted the signature into the recording without his knowledge. (That he didn't do his research beforehand.) Someone probably had to tell the police to look for it.

    But, AFAIK,there are only a few companies that do this voice mimicry stuff and all insert signatures. But as AI becomes more distributed. More locally available and people release their own tools and hardware, it is conceivable that there will be ways to mimic voice which avoid ethical considerations and don't insert the mimic signature.

    Since, we basically have magic words that can cause a heap of trouble for oneself if one says them, this mimicry technology without the signature could cause endless false accusations, with no way to disprove them.

    Perhaps, we will cease having magic words at that point. Or maybe not.

  372. @LatW
    @Beckow


    what the term Barbarian really meant
     
    A lot of it could also be about status at any given time. If the other culture (or the culture of the other) is considered more fringe or if it's not the high status culture (e.g., "Greek", "Roman", "Western" these days, "Russian / Muscovite" in the Soviet days), then it will be denigrated. Who are the ones to judge this? Am I using too much of deconstructionist "post-colonial" lingo here?

    Then again, I don't want to blame Plato for any of this - most likely, he did have an exquisite taste (and the Greek culture is objectively superior). And this musician from Thrace may not have been that good...

    Replies: @Beckow

    …the Greek culture is objectively superior

    Probably, but we don’t know for sure. Greeks, Rome and Christian Church worked hard to destroy all writing and artifacts from the ‘barbarian’ cultures. For example Dacians had a sophisticated civilization based on archeology and almost nothing got preserved. Dacians were related to Thracians. It would be interesting to see what the Thracians thought of the Greeks.

    It is likely that a large percentage of all ancient cultures was not preserved. The exclusivity that we see today that claims that there were Sumer, Egypt, Greece, Rome and a few others is based on what was preserved not on what actually existed. When we hear that the Greeks invented ‘democracy’ it has about as much value as when Americans claim that they wrote the “first Constitution”.

    Ethno-narcissism is very common, Anglos are only the latest and most visible sufferers.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    For example Dacians had a sophisticated civilization based on archeology and almost nothing got preserved.
     
    Absolutely, they did. Maybe we shouldn't approach it in a way as to who is superior or what not - all of these cultures, both material and oral / spiritual, are really cool. Even those European cultures that were not as materially and artistically refined or didn't preserve volumes, were / are valuable.

    Dacians had an interesting mythology and Thracian art is beautiful, they had fantastic and original helmets.


    When we hear that the Greeks invented ‘democracy’
     
    It seems that it is widely recognized that there were other forms of democracy early on (such as the Althing or the Veche), and that there was slavery in Greece (although one can argue that the Greek citizens represented their families and their slaves, as honorable citizens would).

    as when Americans claim that they wrote the “first Constitution”.
     
    Most educated Americans are aware of the primacy of the Magna Carta.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/ca/80/07ca808adb99773e78fc3366fffa4218.jpg

    Replies: @Coconuts

  373. @LatW
    @YetAnotherAnon


    If true, it may explain the depressing fact that prisoners apparently father more kids than those never imprisoned
     
    Probably just the hot prisoners or the more charismatic ones, not all of them, also they probably care less about spreading their material, so to speak. A woman would choose a prisoner not because he's a prisoner, but for other qualities, some of which may have landed him in prison. And they do come out eventually.

    (p.s. Not endorsing any of this, just saying).

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Probably just the hot prisoners or the more charismatic ones, not all of them, also they probably care less about spreading their material, so to speak. A woman would choose a prisoner not because he’s a prisoner, but for other qualities, some of which may have landed him in prison. And they do come out eventually.

    I don’t think looks or charisma explain most of the cases.

    Most people in prison are hopeless criminals. They really don’t function in society and aren’t charming or handsome like criminals in the movies. They have been given multiple chances and keep going back over stupid crimes. I knew someone who worked in prison and she had to quit because she couldn’t handle how evil some of the inmates were. It conflicted with her ideals of redemption.

    It probably has more to do with genes for high testosterone and sociopathy or psychopathy.

    A combination that makes women tingle due to their natural attraction to the “challenger male” that isn’t afraid of combating the alpha in charge of the group. He smites then alpha and then mates with all the women. It’s a high risk/high gain evolutionary strategy for the male. The women benefit regardless.

    But in any prison/procreation study you would really have to break it down by race because it will be skewed by Blacks.

    However I’m sure it is still true for Whites. I don’t doubt that White criminals have more children than White engineers.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @John Johnson


    I don’t think looks or charisma explain most of the cases.

     

    They may not explain most of the cases, but they may be a factor. There are qualities that might be somewhat related to "charisma" such as the ability to manipulate, or a certain kind of aggressiveness. Verbal skills, boldness, etc.

    Out of the White criminals, who procreated more, did they actually try to split them up and see what they were like? Out of them all, what types were more likely to have reproductive success? What quality of women did they engage with and under what circumstances? Those are relevant questions.


    They really don’t function in society
     
    But they can function in an assertive and even a self-organized way outside of society. Or they can control a gang (a band of men, a Männerbund). See the mafia. This could be observed in the 1990s in Eastern Europe. Some criminals can be quite smart in their own peculiar way.

    It probably has more to do with genes for high testosterone and sociopathy or psychopathy.

     

    Well, there are men who are higher T who are not criminals so are they generally more attractive (or more attractive during ovulation)? Do those men have more kids and partners? Do they have more short term partners? Etc etc.

    Sociopathy, too, can coincide with boldness, which is a rather masculine trait. Maybe even inaccessibility. There is boldness without accountability. It's the boldness part that women like (or the men simply approach more actively, maybe even date rape more), not so much the lack of accountability (or they want their cake and eat it too).


    A combination that makes women tingle due to their natural attraction to the “challenger male” that isn’t afraid of combating the alpha in charge of the group.
     
    True, the challenger male is attractive, but are most criminals "challenger types"? Aren't plenty of challenger types who are not criminals (or even aren't antisocial or follow at least some rules)? Within the Russian prison system, for example, there is also a hierarchy.

    It’s a high risk/high gain evolutionary strategy for the male.
     
    Yes. As I said, that's because of low investment. That's what I meant by "they care less". They might sire kids earlier in life and leave them. They might approach more women without thinking much about it. They might cheat more (or are better at hiding it since they can be crafty). The women simply lie to themselves that "he will change" or they'll be able to control him. It doesn't mean that the women desire criminal behaviors (but rather that some of these ultra-masculine behaviors sometimes lead to criminality). For most women a criminal record will be off putting.

    The women benefit regardless.
     
    Only if they receive some kind of protection. This is not the kind of model that most women find the most desirable. They do want some control and predictability.

    But in any prison/procreation study you would really have to break it down by race because it will be skewed by Blacks.
     
    Absolutely. Race, immigration status, T levels, etc.

    I don’t doubt that White criminals have more children than White engineers.
     
    Yea, but that's not just because White engineers are "nerdier" but also because they are more rational and careful about their relationships. They prefer a different reproductive strategy. Or most likely aren't able to even employ this low investment strategy (thankfully). With some exceptions. Then those are actually quite good, because those can be quite eugenic.

    Anyway, I'm not disputing what you wrote, just wondering. Nice topic on this lovely day.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Wokechoke

  374. @LatW
    @Beckow


    The very top had old guys – not as old as Biden or Pelosi, but very old. Now US has that.
     
    When I remember those guys, vaguely, they just seem so boring to me now.

    The top guys seemed powerless
     
    Not the ones from Moscow, they weren't. The local ones... depends on situations.

    I am baptized
     
    Well, that doesn't mean the church was fully free. The powers had to respect some of the tradition, but the longer it lasted, the further it could've been driven out. It was getting more and more secularized. It also depended on the individual family. It's important how the middle generation acted, as always (even though the grandparents are important, too).

    Greek outrage was about the Thracian women. Herodotus went on about how easy they were.
     

    Well, the Greeks would've been biased against them, although they did have looser norms and they had polygamy, but it sounds like the kind of polygamy that could've been controlled by the women.

    It gives us an insight into what the term Barbarian really meant – it wasn’t about the language sounds…
     
    Of course, not, I already noted that it was a civilizational delineation. But it could be that when there is an interaction of cultures, that might affect norms. Also, if the men were renowned warriors, they may not have had that much time to build and enforce norms. It's a philosophical question on how to define barbarian - it can be norms, it can be metal working (which the Thracians had and it was quite beautiful), culture, it can be religion. They had a beautiful culture, even if not as refined and advanced as Greek (and they were hellenized).

    As to the IE language relation, you're right that they are close to Baltic - some words in Dacian are literally Lithuanian. The Baltic language was spread out across a large territory, there were some around the Dniepr, too. Most likely they were still left in the southeast, even if some were already in the north. To me east-west - those are situational categories, the culture / language was the same, one. That's what matters to me.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …that doesn’t mean the church was fully free.

    What does “fully free” mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980’s anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying. (I don’t know about the Soviets.)

    For most of my friends it was a personal choice, few were very religious but some were more atheist than the government. Most were unsure, in the middle, changing mind – very similar to the West. This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda. I have heard “educated” Westies claim that. One told me “sure, you could go to Church but you could get shot for it“. How do you deal with propaganda that deep? And who are the stupid ones here?

    Let’s not feed the idiocy. It wasn’t perfect – it never is – but Christianity was not banned and the believer-agnostic-atheist dynamic was quite similar to other societies. What they really objected to is that the Christian hierarchy didn’t control the state institutions.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    What does “fully free” mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980’s anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying. (I don’t know about the Soviets.)

    Russia still suppresses the Baptists. Something you will not learn from the Evangelical Putin defenders
    https://time.com/6969273/russias-war-against-evangelicals/

    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.

    Bibles were indeed smuggled into Eastern Bloc countries and the USSR
    https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/september/died-brother-andrew-open-door-smuggled-bibles-into-communis.html

    Just because an Eastern Bloc state allowed some state monitored churches did not mean that you could bring in a truck filled with Bibles.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    What does “fully free” mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980’s anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying
     

    I have heard “educated” Westies claim that. One told me “sure, you could go to Church but you could get shot for it

     

    These are two examples of falsehoods. The Westerner at least wasn’t there, and relies on third hand information. What is your excuse?

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    “ In the period spanning the 1970s and 1980s, known as ‘normalization’, the underground Church was already well enough organized to operate under Communist rule. Also, the repression was less brutal than in the 1950s. The underground Church was able to provide religious services, education, literature, and a community of likeminded people, mostly without major collisions with the authorities. However, several operations were conducted by the secret police against religious orders, and many individuals were harassed by the Communist authorities, expelled from schools or forced to accept menial jobs, even if educated”

    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/05/19/catholics-in-communist-czechoslovakia-a-story-of-persecution-and-perseverance/

    “I think that in the 1980s, every practicing Catholic, if you did not live in complete isolation, perceived the threat to the Faith and Christian life by the Communist regime. It is true that the oppression of Christians at that time was far less harsh, in terms of police crackdowns and court procedures, and by this time sentences based on religious activity were not longer than two years, unlike in the 1950s when it was common for practicing Catholic to be condemned to 15-30 years in concentration camps. The persecution of Christians in the 1970s and ‘80s shifted more to the level of sanctions in employment, which was also very hard, so that’s why I conclude, based on my personal experience, that every practicing Catholic was aware of the threat to Faith and Christian life. At the time, however, despite the persecution, the Catholics usually did not leave the Church, but today, in the era of constitutional democracy and freedom, they do.”

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.
     
    As far as the USSR was concerned, this was just as false. You could go to church, if you wanted. The Bible was freely available. I read the Bible for the first time in the USSR in Russian (to be exact, in Church Slavonic, that’s the language of Russian Orthodox Bible). KGB did not spy on people as comprehensively as FBI or CIA, but I am sure some priests were KGB informers reporting who was going to church. Only in two cases going to church could have harmed you: a) if a member of the communist party, which was officially atheist, was reported as going to church, s/he could be expelled; b) if you were a careerist and wanted to go up in the Soviet hierarchy, you had to be a member of the party, and therefore was expected not to go to church. If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm. Refusing to go to church did not buy you any favors.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson, @AP

  375. @LatW
    Hey songbird,

    Visualizing the Average Lifespans of Mammals (click on the link, there's a cool graph)

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-average-lifespans-of-mammals/#google_vignette

    Didn't know poor hedgehog only lives 3 years... aw. Having lived close to these creatures I always thought it was closer to 5 or 6. Imagine developing all those sturdy needles only to be used for 3 years.

    Wolverine comes pretty close to tiger (12 vs 14 years). This is a strong and ferocious northern animal.

    And, of course, the whales are superior creatures. :)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Dmitry

    Humans are one of the only four species of great apes which are not extinct. There is a gorilla and orangutan lifespan in their natural ecology of only 35 years, chimpanzee lifespan 40 years, Bonobo less than 40.

    They are believed to be living longer in captivity compared to their natural ecology. In their natural ecology, the three species of great apes which are not humans, are killed mainly by cardiovascular. respiratory disease and trauma.

    There is an old Biblical view which implies about mortality like a gradient from Adam, who should be immortal in the garden of Eden. In relation to patriarchs like Adam, he only lived 175 years before he died.

    It feels like the Biblical view is common in a lot of the today’s popular culture, lifestyle advice, paleo diet.

    From view of psychological health, it is probably true we have been declining, since our time in the natural ecologies, compared to artificially engineered ecologies which develop after the invention of agriculture technology and the overpopulation was created, increasing the human population from around one million people for most of the human history to a “share dilution” of over eight billion people today.

  376. @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    But it begs the question whether future AI fakes will be made without any tags or telltales
     
    In the US I can tell you with 99.9% certainty whether the person I speak to on the phone is black or white. Hispanics, Chinese, and Indians are only recognizable by characteristic mistakes in English grammar and pronunciation. So, if you remove all telltales, the AI would speak like a white person. This is politically incorrect.

    Replies: @songbird

    What I was referring to is a digital signature which is intentionally inserted into AI voice mimicry of real humans in order to show that the voice is inauthentic. The signature is subliminal.

    I imagine whatever tool the guy in the story used inserted the signature into the recording without his knowledge. (That he didn’t do his research beforehand.) Someone probably had to tell the police to look for it.

    But, AFAIK,there are only a few companies that do this voice mimicry stuff and all insert signatures. But as AI becomes more distributed. More locally available and people release their own tools and hardware, it is conceivable that there will be ways to mimic voice which avoid ethical considerations and don’t insert the mimic signature.

    Since, we basically have magic words that can cause a heap of trouble for oneself if one says them, this mimicry technology without the signature could cause endless false accusations, with no way to disprove them.

    Perhaps, we will cease having magic words at that point. Or maybe not.

  377. @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Probably just the hot prisoners or the more charismatic ones, not all of them, also they probably care less about spreading their material, so to speak. A woman would choose a prisoner not because he’s a prisoner, but for other qualities, some of which may have landed him in prison. And they do come out eventually.

    I don't think looks or charisma explain most of the cases.

    Most people in prison are hopeless criminals. They really don't function in society and aren't charming or handsome like criminals in the movies. They have been given multiple chances and keep going back over stupid crimes. I knew someone who worked in prison and she had to quit because she couldn't handle how evil some of the inmates were. It conflicted with her ideals of redemption.

    It probably has more to do with genes for high testosterone and sociopathy or psychopathy.

    A combination that makes women tingle due to their natural attraction to the "challenger male" that isn't afraid of combating the alpha in charge of the group. He smites then alpha and then mates with all the women. It's a high risk/high gain evolutionary strategy for the male. The women benefit regardless.

    But in any prison/procreation study you would really have to break it down by race because it will be skewed by Blacks.

    However I'm sure it is still true for Whites. I don't doubt that White criminals have more children than White engineers.

    Replies: @LatW

    I don’t think looks or charisma explain most of the cases.

    They may not explain most of the cases, but they may be a factor. There are qualities that might be somewhat related to “charisma” such as the ability to manipulate, or a certain kind of aggressiveness. Verbal skills, boldness, etc.

    Out of the White criminals, who procreated more, did they actually try to split them up and see what they were like? Out of them all, what types were more likely to have reproductive success? What quality of women did they engage with and under what circumstances? Those are relevant questions.

    [MORE]

    They really don’t function in society

    But they can function in an assertive and even a self-organized way outside of society. Or they can control a gang (a band of men, a Männerbund). See the mafia. This could be observed in the 1990s in Eastern Europe. Some criminals can be quite smart in their own peculiar way.

    It probably has more to do with genes for high testosterone and sociopathy or psychopathy.

    Well, there are men who are higher T who are not criminals so are they generally more attractive (or more attractive during ovulation)? Do those men have more kids and partners? Do they have more short term partners? Etc etc.

    Sociopathy, too, can coincide with boldness, which is a rather masculine trait. Maybe even inaccessibility. There is boldness without accountability. It’s the boldness part that women like (or the men simply approach more actively, maybe even date rape more), not so much the lack of accountability (or they want their cake and eat it too).

    A combination that makes women tingle due to their natural attraction to the “challenger male” that isn’t afraid of combating the alpha in charge of the group.

    True, the challenger male is attractive, but are most criminals “challenger types”? Aren’t plenty of challenger types who are not criminals (or even aren’t antisocial or follow at least some rules)? Within the Russian prison system, for example, there is also a hierarchy.

    It’s a high risk/high gain evolutionary strategy for the male.

    Yes. As I said, that’s because of low investment. That’s what I meant by “they care less”. They might sire kids earlier in life and leave them. They might approach more women without thinking much about it. They might cheat more (or are better at hiding it since they can be crafty). The women simply lie to themselves that “he will change” or they’ll be able to control him. It doesn’t mean that the women desire criminal behaviors (but rather that some of these ultra-masculine behaviors sometimes lead to criminality). For most women a criminal record will be off putting.

    The women benefit regardless.

    Only if they receive some kind of protection. This is not the kind of model that most women find the most desirable. They do want some control and predictability.

    But in any prison/procreation study you would really have to break it down by race because it will be skewed by Blacks.

    Absolutely. Race, immigration status, T levels, etc.

    I don’t doubt that White criminals have more children than White engineers.

    Yea, but that’s not just because White engineers are “nerdier” but also because they are more rational and careful about their relationships. They prefer a different reproductive strategy. Or most likely aren’t able to even employ this low investment strategy (thankfully). With some exceptions. Then those are actually quite good, because those can be quite eugenic.

    Anyway, I’m not disputing what you wrote, just wondering. Nice topic on this lovely day.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @LatW

    One factor - blacks and travellers are heavily over-represented in UK prisons.

    Ideally the figures should be broken down by race.

    , @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    White convicts in the UK. See US and Australia.

  378. @Matra
    Just as I suspected the Russian soldiers who killed (and apparently raped) Russell Bentley were likely non-whites. Almost every time one reads about Russian soldiers engaging in rape and/or mutilation it ends up being Asians from eastern Russia. Sadly, these are likely the types of Russians who will replace Ukrainians as they conquer new territory. Based Putin indeed.

    I think it is worth noting that Russell and I had a point of disagreement about non-Russians in Russia, with me warning him that they were anti-Russian and up to no good, generally, and Russell declaring, loudly, that they were his brothers against the Fascists. But, being “colorblind” doesn’t make the dangers of dealing with the feral DIEversity go away. There are very many Russians who end up being victims of the DIEversity, regardless of whether or not they pride themselves on being tolerant or not. And speaking out about these ethnic crimes is what gets one labeled a “Neo-Nazi Fascist” by the government and the media in Russia. We can’t control what the elites dictate to us, and the policies that they pass to oppress us, but we can at least stop internalizing their brainwashing and refuse to police ourselves on behalf of the state.
     
    Link

    Needless to say, Russell Bentley was a boomer.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Dmitry

    The beginning sentences of the link is not evidence of the claim Buryats have been raping foreign reporters.

    From the first thing, the nationality of the division.

    5th Guards is from Buryatia. Buryatia is a Russian majority non-Russian Republic of the Russian Federation.

    Buryatia is the national homeland of the Buryat people who are the titular nationality.

    While Buryatia is the homeland of the Buryat people, it is a Russian majority region and the army doesn’t only recruit locally. The location of the division in Buryatia doesn’t imply tankers of the 5th Guards are all Buryats, although Buryats should have higher proportion of tankers in the Russian army because of the size requirement of tankers for Soviet tanks needs people below average height.

    In their group pictures they look like an ethnically mixed unit, with mix of soldiers of Buryat, Russian, Tatar, Caucasian and other nationality.

  379. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Badgers have the apex in work ethic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14i02f31WDI

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    That’s alot of activity for a badger during the day time. I’ve only ever seen a badger once during the day, all other times at night, mostly near or crossing the road. I assume none of us have seen a cub.

    Difficult to think of an animal more shy and unwilling to get attention – alot of other animals are claimed to have these characteristics but don’t do it in practise, certainly not in comparison to the badger ( I am thinking creatures generally not liked but still likely to encounter more than the badger like snakes and rodents). Bears far more “sociable”. On the other side of the spectrum – on holiday I found rhinos to be attention-whores.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Gerard1234

    I would be ecstatic to observe a badger in the wild for 20 seconds. I've hiked thousands of hours in their habitat and never spotted one. I have seen a lot of skunks, possums, and raccoons. Raccoons in the wild are world class athletes. Not like the ones in town here who have Donald the Fat body mass index.

  380. Am a big fan of these snow chickens. It is remarkable how they manage to survive the winter, despite having such little fat reserves.

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  381. I don’t think looks or charisma explain most of the cases.

    They may not explain most of the cases, but they may be a factor. There are qualities that might be somewhat related to “charisma” such as the ability to manipulate, or a certain kind of aggressiveness. Verbal skills, boldness, etc.

    Oh I don’t doubt they count for a lot.

    But most men in prison are not handsome or charismatic. There are a lot of creeps, junkies, rejects and weirdos. I toured a prison and it was insane.

    But they can function in an assertive and even a self-organized way outside of society. Or they can control a gang (a band of men, a Männerbund). See the mafia. This could be observed in the 1990s in Eastern Europe. Some criminals can be quite smart in their own peculiar way.

    Successful criminals. Most of the criminals in prison are losers and junkies. The smart criminals get away with it.

    The women benefit regardless.

    Only if they receive some kind of protection. This is not the kind of model that most women find the most desirable. They do want some control and predictability.

    I meant in a primal tribe. If the challenger wins then the women breed with him. If he loses then they breed with the alpha. There isn’t much physical risk in encouraging a challenger. Sort of like putting two bucks against each other. The males fight and the females get the tested winner. There was also most likely a tribal desire for a lower ranked female to get a challenger male to take over the tribe. Again low risk to her if it fails, but high gain if he wins. Thus rewarding the fearless rebel with sex makes sense.

    Yea, but that’s not just because White engineers are “nerdier” but also because they are more rational and careful about their relationships.

    I really see society as the main problem. There isn’t much stigma in being a single mom and we don’t have a healthy society. It starts early whereby Whites are loaded up with guilt and loathing. Liberals in the public schools will purposely discourage White boys and try to lower their confidence for the sake of equality. White girls and Black kids are given excessive praise in order to try and equalize everyone. Raising a White boy in a multi-racial school with liberal (mostly White female) teachers is one of the worst things you can do. Those teachers see the reality of race every day and they try to counter it like doting mothers. I’ve been around liberal teachers and I think it makes them bonkers. It’s a cruel reality and they left college believing that it doesn’t exist and will be fixed within a few generations.

    I’ve seen the results and it pushed me further into anti-leftist territory. The White boys come out with low self-esteem and the teachers cheat for the other kids. So non-White kids leave high school thinking they will all be executives and doctors. The system also works against the White engineer type that isn’t naturally aggressive and plays fair. He comes out questioning himself while trusting the system. I have no doubt at all that a White prisoner with average intelligence is more likely to have kids.

  382. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    If you think that’s bad, wait until the FABs start landing in Kiev and Dnipro. I think Bentley would understand why the Russians may need to attack Kiev and Odessa

    Bentley was buttraped and murdered. I don't know why you would speculate on what he thought about Russian strategy. He most likely died hating all Russians and didn't give a frig about their war.

    Lavrov already talked about a demilitarized buffer zone and Putin supposedly gave the orders to take the rest of the DPR.

    That sounds like he has no intention of marching on Kiev. He most likely wants to lock up the former DPR/LPR and raise his "mission accomplished" banner. His State TV won't talk of his original goal of stopping the Eastward expansion of NATO.

    How would they take Odessa? It was never pro-separatist. You can't dump demoralized conscripts on a hostile port city. They'll just walk away. Retreat guards only work on an open front. Do you realize how easy it is to gun down a dozen conscripts in an urban area? For nasty urban warfare you need dedicated troops.

    Great job, morons.

    Russia was wealthier, healthier, had much better international standing and NATO had two fewer states before the 2.5 week special operation now on day 790.

    Who is the moron in all of this? Not sure what you mean.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Th morons in this are the people supporting the Western aggression against Russia justified by a manipulated situation in Ukraine. The downsides include more than a half-million good people dead or wounded, massive degradation of Western credibility over Nord Stream and bogus sanctions (especially financial credibility), not to mention bad blood which will last for a generation. This was part of an intentional process which raised the risk of nuclear war from negligible to substantial. We know which side you are on. Great job, moron.

    The short-term reason for Russia to control Odessa is to stop marine transport of weapons into Ukraine. This step seems almost inevitable, but I don’t know the schedule.

    I guess you saw the report that nuclear-armed Iskander missiles are now on duty in the North to keep Finland in line. I don’t know if it is true, but it seems plausible.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Th morons in this are the people supporting the Western aggression against Russia justified by a manipulated situation in Ukraine. The downsides include more than a half-million good people dead or wounded, massive degradation of Western credibility over Nord Stream and bogus sanctions (especially financial credibility), not to mention bad blood which will last for a generation.

    Russia's global image has dropped after the invasion according to polls:
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/474596/russia-suffers-global-rebuke-invasion.aspx

    The UN voted 143-5 that Russia is the unjust aggressor and worldwide polls seem to match that agreement.

    Would more or fewer Slavs be alive if Putin did not invade?

    The short-term reason for Russia to control Odessa is to stop marine transport of weapons into Ukraine.

    Stop making stuff up. That has nothing to do with it and makes zero sense. The weapons already go through Poland which is one of their main trading partners and a NATO member. Running them through Odessa would make them a valid target in open water. My God you are so full of shit. Just admit you have a mancrush on that little midget because he bothers the West. That is all there is to it. You, Anglin, Fuentes and the other Putin defenders live a life of resentment and find solace is a mass murdering dwarf just because he gives the West a headache.

    Putin views Odessa as Russian due to the history of Russian Imperialism and Catherine II. Has nothing to do with the shipment of weapons.

    I guess you saw the report that nuclear-armed Iskander missiles are now on duty in the North to keep Finland in line.

    Do explain the point given that a nuclear exchange would destroy both sides in any scenario.

    1. First strike with short range missiles = both sides destroyed.
    2. No first strike with long range missiles = both sides destroyed.

    Go ahead and explain for us as to how that changes anything or keeps anyone in line.

    Replies: @QCIC

  383. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...the Greek culture is objectively superior
     
    Probably, but we don't know for sure. Greeks, Rome and Christian Church worked hard to destroy all writing and artifacts from the 'barbarian' cultures. For example Dacians had a sophisticated civilization based on archeology and almost nothing got preserved. Dacians were related to Thracians. It would be interesting to see what the Thracians thought of the Greeks.

    It is likely that a large percentage of all ancient cultures was not preserved. The exclusivity that we see today that claims that there were Sumer, Egypt, Greece, Rome and a few others is based on what was preserved not on what actually existed. When we hear that the Greeks invented 'democracy' it has about as much value as when Americans claim that they wrote the "first Constitution".

    Ethno-narcissism is very common, Anglos are only the latest and most visible sufferers.

    Replies: @LatW

    For example Dacians had a sophisticated civilization based on archeology and almost nothing got preserved.

    Absolutely, they did. Maybe we shouldn’t approach it in a way as to who is superior or what not – all of these cultures, both material and oral / spiritual, are really cool. Even those European cultures that were not as materially and artistically refined or didn’t preserve volumes, were / are valuable.

    Dacians had an interesting mythology and Thracian art is beautiful, they had fantastic and original helmets.

    When we hear that the Greeks invented ‘democracy’

    It seems that it is widely recognized that there were other forms of democracy early on (such as the Althing or the Veche), and that there was slavery in Greece (although one can argue that the Greek citizens represented their families and their slaves, as honorable citizens would).

    as when Americans claim that they wrote the “first Constitution”.

    Most educated Americans are aware of the primacy of the Magna Carta.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @LatW


    Absolutely, they did. Maybe we shouldn’t approach it in a way as to who is superior or what not – all of these cultures, both material and oral / spiritual, are really cool. Even those European cultures that were not as materially and artistically refined or didn’t preserve volumes, were / are valuable.
     
    I know different things have been written about Dacianism, for example:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacianism

    The term 'protochronism' has entered political science terminology from Dacianism.


    It seems that it is widely recognized that there were other forms of democracy early on (such as the Althing or the Veche), and that there was slavery in Greece (although one can argue that the Greek citizens represented their families and their slaves, as honorable citizens would).
     
    I think contemporary concepts of democracy date more to the 17th and 18th centuries, though they looked to the Athenian polis and Roman civitas for some inspiration. Where the ultimate inspiration behind contemporary ideas about equality and individual rights come from can be controversial, but afaik it first begins to be articulated in forms familiar to us with the advent of liberalism in the 17th century.
  384. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    You should be ashamed for resorting to that filthy concocted propaganda.

    Did you watch the video?

    His wife is Russian and she hasn't received his body.

    You should be ashamed for directing your frustrations at a forum poster instead facing the harsh reality that Russia is a degenerate totalitarian state where individual life is meaningless.

    Russians were known to rape in WW2 and here we are in the Ukraine war with another tale of Russian rape but this time against a man.

    Yea all propaganda I'm sure comrade.

    Everyone saw which side was stealing dishwashers and washing machines. But the rape allegations must all be Western propaganda!!!

    Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    Who wants to take bets on whether or not his body will be returned? They won't be able to hide rectal damage.

    Replies: @Derer

    Do you watch the US MSM? Filthy propaganda that is loosing the followings by day and educated are switching to the alternatives.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Do you watch the US MSM? Filthy propaganda that is loosing the followings by day and educated are switching to the alternatives.

    I actually don't know if this was covered in the MSM. I have no idea.

    It was first reported by a Russian source on Telegram.

    Warthog Defense is pretty much one person and I think he is Bulgarian. It's a youtube channel and some of his videos get banned.

    Do you just tell yourself that unwanted information must be from the MSM?

    What exactly makes you different than the liberal White woman that tries to live in a bubble?

    Bentley's wife is pleading for her husband's body. She made the video.

    You didn't watch the video nor did you investigate the source. But you're accusing me of falling for the MSM, correct?

  385. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...that doesn’t mean the church was fully free.
     
    What does "fully free" mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980's anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying. (I don't know about the Soviets.)

    For most of my friends it was a personal choice, few were very religious but some were more atheist than the government. Most were unsure, in the middle, changing mind - very similar to the West. This nonsense that "Church was banned" or that "people had to smuggle in Bibles" is a very stupid Westie propaganda. I have heard "educated" Westies claim that. One told me "sure, you could go to Church but you could get shot for it". How do you deal with propaganda that deep? And who are the stupid ones here?

    Let's not feed the idiocy. It wasn't perfect - it never is - but Christianity was not banned and the believer-agnostic-atheist dynamic was quite similar to other societies. What they really objected to is that the Christian hierarchy didn't control the state institutions.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    What does “fully free” mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980’s anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying. (I don’t know about the Soviets.)

    Russia still suppresses the Baptists. Something you will not learn from the Evangelical Putin defenders
    https://time.com/6969273/russias-war-against-evangelicals/

    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.

    Bibles were indeed smuggled into Eastern Bloc countries and the USSR
    https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/september/died-brother-andrew-open-door-smuggled-bibles-into-communis.html

    Just because an Eastern Bloc state allowed some state monitored churches did not mean that you could bring in a truck filled with Bibles.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Russia still suppresses the Baptists.
     
    They should, Baptists are idiots. I don't know what their thing is but it can't be good. They are deranged.

    If a crazy cult from Siberia boondocks came to US and tried to convert half of Utah, do you think the local Mormons would 'suppress' them? You bet they would, they would find a way. Why should other cultures put up with your retarded provincial maniacs just because they claim they are 'Christian'? You don't. It is your self-centered myopia again.

    Monitoring is in the eye of the beholder: all institutions are 'monitored'. France monitores churches and mosques, in Germany until recently only officially sanctioned religion was allowed, the commies simply took the HR function from the Vatican and run it themselves.


    Bibles were indeed smuggled into Eastern Bloc countries and the USSR
     
    Why would they smuggle something you could find in every church in large quantities on each chair? In church bookstores, libraries, and most families had 2 or 3 copies at home. People write all kinds of nonsense, Biden claimed he was arrested while visiting Nelson Mandela, maybe at the same time that he was attacked by cannibals - Americans are well known to invent crazy stories to make themselves more interesting. You guys lie a lot.

    Maybe a few idiots 'smuggled' the holy Book or the cross, but they didn't have to. There are also people who smuggle their own booze to parties and restaurants. And why would anyone bring "truckloads of Bibles", are you insane?

    I don't know about the Soviets, or Romania and Albania. But the normal socialist countries were quite open towards the church.

    Replies: @Mikel

  386. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Th morons in this are the people supporting the Western aggression against Russia justified by a manipulated situation in Ukraine. The downsides include more than a half-million good people dead or wounded, massive degradation of Western credibility over Nord Stream and bogus sanctions (especially financial credibility), not to mention bad blood which will last for a generation. This was part of an intentional process which raised the risk of nuclear war from negligible to substantial. We know which side you are on. Great job, moron.

    The short-term reason for Russia to control Odessa is to stop marine transport of weapons into Ukraine. This step seems almost inevitable, but I don't know the schedule.

    I guess you saw the report that nuclear-armed Iskander missiles are now on duty in the North to keep Finland in line. I don't know if it is true, but it seems plausible.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Th morons in this are the people supporting the Western aggression against Russia justified by a manipulated situation in Ukraine. The downsides include more than a half-million good people dead or wounded, massive degradation of Western credibility over Nord Stream and bogus sanctions (especially financial credibility), not to mention bad blood which will last for a generation.

    Russia’s global image has dropped after the invasion according to polls:
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/474596/russia-suffers-global-rebuke-invasion.aspx

    The UN voted 143-5 that Russia is the unjust aggressor and worldwide polls seem to match that agreement.

    Would more or fewer Slavs be alive if Putin did not invade?

    The short-term reason for Russia to control Odessa is to stop marine transport of weapons into Ukraine.

    Stop making stuff up. That has nothing to do with it and makes zero sense. The weapons already go through Poland which is one of their main trading partners and a NATO member. Running them through Odessa would make them a valid target in open water. My God you are so full of shit. Just admit you have a mancrush on that little midget because he bothers the West. That is all there is to it. You, Anglin, Fuentes and the other Putin defenders live a life of resentment and find solace is a mass murdering dwarf just because he gives the West a headache.

    Putin views Odessa as Russian due to the history of Russian Imperialism and Catherine II. Has nothing to do with the shipment of weapons.

    I guess you saw the report that nuclear-armed Iskander missiles are now on duty in the North to keep Finland in line.

    Do explain the point given that a nuclear exchange would destroy both sides in any scenario.

    1. First strike with short range missiles = both sides destroyed.
    2. No first strike with long range missiles = both sides destroyed.

    Go ahead and explain for us as to how that changes anything or keeps anyone in line.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    NATO is not going to launch ICBMs if Russia uses tactical nukes on NATO assets in Finland. This is part of an escalation ladder which Finland foolishly decided to get tangled in. The Western enticement to Finland goes something like this: "We want you stupid Fins to be the trip wire and a human shield for WW3. Of course Russia doesn't give two shits about your country and you are not at risk. Here, take this twenty bucks, it will be fun." I hope the Fins are wise enough to drop out of NATO as soon as they root out the sellouts and idiots who signed them up.

    Odessa is the main Ukrainian port for large cargo, maybe the only port now. The Turks are two-faced and for the moment will let a lot of trouble transit the straits on cargo ships. Once Russia decides to cut energy supplies (if it comes to that) Odessa is all that Ukraine will have left for fuel. I agree Russia sees Odessa as part of her historical purview as do many unbiased people.

    Western forces settling into Ukraine in a big way (formally or informally) leads to a bigger war later, so more Slavs die in that case. Russia moved in 2022 to prevent that. There is still time to avoid the big war if NATO is wise enough to walk away from this mistake.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  387. @Gerard1234
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    That's alot of activity for a badger during the day time. I've only ever seen a badger once during the day, all other times at night, mostly near or crossing the road. I assume none of us have seen a cub.

    Difficult to think of an animal more shy and unwilling to get attention - alot of other animals are claimed to have these characteristics but don't do it in practise, certainly not in comparison to the badger ( I am thinking creatures generally not liked but still likely to encounter more than the badger like snakes and rodents). Bears far more "sociable". On the other side of the spectrum - on holiday I found rhinos to be attention-whores.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I would be ecstatic to observe a badger in the wild for 20 seconds. I’ve hiked thousands of hours in their habitat and never spotted one. I have seen a lot of skunks, possums, and raccoons. Raccoons in the wild are world class athletes. Not like the ones in town here who have Donald the Fat body mass index.

  388. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Do you watch the US MSM? Filthy propaganda that is loosing the followings by day and educated are switching to the alternatives.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Do you watch the US MSM? Filthy propaganda that is loosing the followings by day and educated are switching to the alternatives.

    I actually don’t know if this was covered in the MSM. I have no idea.

    It was first reported by a Russian source on Telegram.

    Warthog Defense is pretty much one person and I think he is Bulgarian. It’s a youtube channel and some of his videos get banned.

    Do you just tell yourself that unwanted information must be from the MSM?

    What exactly makes you different than the liberal White woman that tries to live in a bubble?

    Bentley’s wife is pleading for her husband’s body. She made the video.

    You didn’t watch the video nor did you investigate the source. But you’re accusing me of falling for the MSM, correct?

  389. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    Off-topic, but you might enjoy what I wrote on the online grave page for the mother of one of the judges whom I have e-mailed to:

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143621126/dorothy_i_shepard

    I have, of course, told this very judge this exact same thing via recorded phone message.

    Replies: @LatW

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    What might help sometimes is physical solutions to mental problems (such as overthinking). Have you ever tried those healing spa treatments where you go into a sauna (or a banya, same thing) and have somebody (preferably an experienced ancestral healer) smack you lightly (or not so lightly) all over the body with fragrant, leafy birch tree branches? I’m sure you know what I’m talking about, it’s a thing in EE, a traditional, old school method (sometimes called “Dr Birch Tree”). It might help if you did this regularly.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    Ahem...this kind and helpful suggestion may not turn out the way you expect.

    XYZ + "Dr. Birch Tree" = Oh, hell no!

  390. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Th morons in this are the people supporting the Western aggression against Russia justified by a manipulated situation in Ukraine. The downsides include more than a half-million good people dead or wounded, massive degradation of Western credibility over Nord Stream and bogus sanctions (especially financial credibility), not to mention bad blood which will last for a generation.

    Russia's global image has dropped after the invasion according to polls:
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/474596/russia-suffers-global-rebuke-invasion.aspx

    The UN voted 143-5 that Russia is the unjust aggressor and worldwide polls seem to match that agreement.

    Would more or fewer Slavs be alive if Putin did not invade?

    The short-term reason for Russia to control Odessa is to stop marine transport of weapons into Ukraine.

    Stop making stuff up. That has nothing to do with it and makes zero sense. The weapons already go through Poland which is one of their main trading partners and a NATO member. Running them through Odessa would make them a valid target in open water. My God you are so full of shit. Just admit you have a mancrush on that little midget because he bothers the West. That is all there is to it. You, Anglin, Fuentes and the other Putin defenders live a life of resentment and find solace is a mass murdering dwarf just because he gives the West a headache.

    Putin views Odessa as Russian due to the history of Russian Imperialism and Catherine II. Has nothing to do with the shipment of weapons.

    I guess you saw the report that nuclear-armed Iskander missiles are now on duty in the North to keep Finland in line.

    Do explain the point given that a nuclear exchange would destroy both sides in any scenario.

    1. First strike with short range missiles = both sides destroyed.
    2. No first strike with long range missiles = both sides destroyed.

    Go ahead and explain for us as to how that changes anything or keeps anyone in line.

    Replies: @QCIC

    NATO is not going to launch ICBMs if Russia uses tactical nukes on NATO assets in Finland. This is part of an escalation ladder which Finland foolishly decided to get tangled in. The Western enticement to Finland goes something like this: “We want you stupid Fins to be the trip wire and a human shield for WW3. Of course Russia doesn’t give two shits about your country and you are not at risk. Here, take this twenty bucks, it will be fun.” I hope the Fins are wise enough to drop out of NATO as soon as they root out the sellouts and idiots who signed them up.

    Odessa is the main Ukrainian port for large cargo, maybe the only port now. The Turks are two-faced and for the moment will let a lot of trouble transit the straits on cargo ships. Once Russia decides to cut energy supplies (if it comes to that) Odessa is all that Ukraine will have left for fuel. I agree Russia sees Odessa as part of her historical purview as do many unbiased people.

    Western forces settling into Ukraine in a big way (formally or informally) leads to a bigger war later, so more Slavs die in that case. Russia moved in 2022 to prevent that. There is still time to avoid the big war if NATO is wise enough to walk away from this mistake.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    NATO is not going to launch ICBMs if Russia uses tactical nukes on NATO assets in Finland.

    Which assets would those be exactly and why would NATO not launch tactical nukes in response on Russian assets in occupied Ukraine?

    What would the point be of such an attack? Saving Finns from themselves by nuking them or something?

    This is part of an escalation ladder which Finland foolishly decided to get tangled in.

    The equation doesn't change. It's the same as in Wargames. Everyone loses if the nukes go off and it doesn't matter if Finland is in NATO. This is why Putin's claims of "nuke silos on the border" were always bullshit. They don't build nuke towers anymore and it wouldn't change the equation. There are in fact ZERO nuke towers in the Baltics and they are in NATO. Case number #2737 where the dwarf is just plain full of shit and would get laughed at if he tried to make that claim in an actual free media where questions can be asked.

    The Western enticement to Finland goes something like this: “We want you stupid Fins to be the trip wire and a human shield for WW3

    So you are saying it was the West that enticed Finland after decades of neutrality? It just so happens that they were able to do it after Putin invaded a non-NATO country?

    I hope the Fins are wise enough to drop out of NATO as soon as they root out the sellouts and idiots who signed them up.

    More wishful thinking on your support. A strong majority of Finns supported joining NATO.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/finland-nato-survey-membership/32145117.html

    The rest of the world does not share your support of a mass murdering dwarf and his invasion that the UN voted 143-5 as being illegal. So you disagree with that vote I assume and believe that Russia, North Korea and Belarus are on the side of justice?

    Once Russia decides to cut energy supplies (if it comes to that) Odessa is all that Ukraine will have left for fuel.

    Ok so explain why it couldn't go through rail like other landlocked European countries.

    Western forces settling into Ukraine in a big way (formally or informally) leads to a bigger war later, so more Slavs die in that case.

    So over 100,000 Slavs were going to die in a future war? Which war would that be?

    Replies: @QCIC

  391. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    What does “fully free” mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980’s anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying. (I don’t know about the Soviets.)

    Russia still suppresses the Baptists. Something you will not learn from the Evangelical Putin defenders
    https://time.com/6969273/russias-war-against-evangelicals/

    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.

    Bibles were indeed smuggled into Eastern Bloc countries and the USSR
    https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/september/died-brother-andrew-open-door-smuggled-bibles-into-communis.html

    Just because an Eastern Bloc state allowed some state monitored churches did not mean that you could bring in a truck filled with Bibles.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Russia still suppresses the Baptists.

    They should, Baptists are idiots. I don’t know what their thing is but it can’t be good. They are deranged.

    If a crazy cult from Siberia boondocks came to US and tried to convert half of Utah, do you think the local Mormons would ‘suppress‘ them? You bet they would, they would find a way. Why should other cultures put up with your retarded provincial maniacs just because they claim they are ‘Christian’? You don’t. It is your self-centered myopia again.

    Monitoring is in the eye of the beholder: all institutions are ‘monitored’. France monitores churches and mosques, in Germany until recently only officially sanctioned religion was allowed, the commies simply took the HR function from the Vatican and run it themselves.

    Bibles were indeed smuggled into Eastern Bloc countries and the USSR

    Why would they smuggle something you could find in every church in large quantities on each chair? In church bookstores, libraries, and most families had 2 or 3 copies at home. People write all kinds of nonsense, Biden claimed he was arrested while visiting Nelson Mandela, maybe at the same time that he was attacked by cannibals – Americans are well known to invent crazy stories to make themselves more interesting. You guys lie a lot.

    Maybe a few idiots ‘smuggled‘ the holy Book or the cross, but they didn’t have to. There are also people who smuggle their own booze to parties and restaurants. And why would anyone bring “truckloads of Bibles”, are you insane?

    I don’t know about the Soviets, or Romania and Albania. But the normal socialist countries were quite open towards the church.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Beckow


    If a crazy cult from Siberia boondocks came to US and tried to convert half of Utah, do you think the local Mormons would ‘suppress‘ them? You bet they would
     
    No, they wouldn't. That's not in their character at all. They would take advantage of the situation and send legions of missionaries to the Siberian shamanists' houses to try to convert them instead. They would probably succeed, through the power of sheer numbers and persistence. The most likely outcome of such an experiment would be the shamanists returning to Siberia converted to some syncretic Mormonism and building a temple there with LDS Church funds.

    Replies: @Beckow

  392. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    What might help sometimes is physical solutions to mental problems (such as overthinking). Have you ever tried those healing spa treatments where you go into a sauna (or a banya, same thing) and have somebody (preferably an experienced ancestral healer) smack you lightly (or not so lightly) all over the body with fragrant, leafy birch tree branches? I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, it's a thing in EE, a traditional, old school method (sometimes called "Dr Birch Tree"). It might help if you did this regularly.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/5c/1a/6c5c1a670e22e5dd002023b60009426e.gif

    Replies: @QCIC

    Ahem…this kind and helpful suggestion may not turn out the way you expect.

    XYZ + “Dr. Birch Tree” = Oh, hell no!

  393. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    NATO is not going to launch ICBMs if Russia uses tactical nukes on NATO assets in Finland. This is part of an escalation ladder which Finland foolishly decided to get tangled in. The Western enticement to Finland goes something like this: "We want you stupid Fins to be the trip wire and a human shield for WW3. Of course Russia doesn't give two shits about your country and you are not at risk. Here, take this twenty bucks, it will be fun." I hope the Fins are wise enough to drop out of NATO as soon as they root out the sellouts and idiots who signed them up.

    Odessa is the main Ukrainian port for large cargo, maybe the only port now. The Turks are two-faced and for the moment will let a lot of trouble transit the straits on cargo ships. Once Russia decides to cut energy supplies (if it comes to that) Odessa is all that Ukraine will have left for fuel. I agree Russia sees Odessa as part of her historical purview as do many unbiased people.

    Western forces settling into Ukraine in a big way (formally or informally) leads to a bigger war later, so more Slavs die in that case. Russia moved in 2022 to prevent that. There is still time to avoid the big war if NATO is wise enough to walk away from this mistake.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    NATO is not going to launch ICBMs if Russia uses tactical nukes on NATO assets in Finland.

    Which assets would those be exactly and why would NATO not launch tactical nukes in response on Russian assets in occupied Ukraine?

    What would the point be of such an attack? Saving Finns from themselves by nuking them or something?

    This is part of an escalation ladder which Finland foolishly decided to get tangled in.

    The equation doesn’t change. It’s the same as in Wargames. Everyone loses if the nukes go off and it doesn’t matter if Finland is in NATO. This is why Putin’s claims of “nuke silos on the border” were always bullshit. They don’t build nuke towers anymore and it wouldn’t change the equation. There are in fact ZERO nuke towers in the Baltics and they are in NATO. Case number #2737 where the dwarf is just plain full of shit and would get laughed at if he tried to make that claim in an actual free media where questions can be asked.

    The Western enticement to Finland goes something like this: “We want you stupid Fins to be the trip wire and a human shield for WW3

    So you are saying it was the West that enticed Finland after decades of neutrality? It just so happens that they were able to do it after Putin invaded a non-NATO country?

    I hope the Fins are wise enough to drop out of NATO as soon as they root out the sellouts and idiots who signed them up.

    More wishful thinking on your support. A strong majority of Finns supported joining NATO.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/finland-nato-survey-membership/32145117.html

    The rest of the world does not share your support of a mass murdering dwarf and his invasion that the UN voted 143-5 as being illegal. So you disagree with that vote I assume and believe that Russia, North Korea and Belarus are on the side of justice?

    Once Russia decides to cut energy supplies (if it comes to that) Odessa is all that Ukraine will have left for fuel.

    Ok so explain why it couldn’t go through rail like other landlocked European countries.

    Western forces settling into Ukraine in a big way (formally or informally) leads to a bigger war later, so more Slavs die in that case.

    So over 100,000 Slavs were going to die in a future war? Which war would that be?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    People such as yourself need to think more clearly and not accept MSM opinions and UN votes uncritically. Most of that gibberish is generated by incompetent liars.

    NATO doesn't give a rat's ass about Finland. NATO is USA+UK+France, all the other members are serfs or eunuchs.

    I'm worried about the war where most of the Slavs die (along with the rest of us), so we don't need to quibble over numbers like hundreds of thousands or tens of millions or whatever. Since Russia has a potent nuclear arsenal with some of the most advanced ICBMs, submarines, bombers and cruise missiles I confidently infer that their senior people worry about this problem even more than I do.

    The West has been working all of the countries bordering Russia since long before 1991 to weaken and take down the Kremlin power structure and Russian sovereignty. Everyone knows this and both sides disclosed many activities. The West won the Cold War and should have stopped this intrigue. Unfortunately, the MIC and CIA were entrenched by then so they kept going full speed with the enthusiastic support of the (((neocons))). One of the interesting things about this Ukraine mess is that much of the information is not hidden or obscure. One needs to pay just a little attention to see the big picture. I recommend Carlton Meyer's excellent video series for newbies.

    Replies: @LatW

  394. @LatW
    @Matra


    I don’t know for sure but it seems that this ad just popped up again recently after many years of not being on TV.
     
    They were running on the cable 4 or 5 years ago (have stopped watching cable since then, so don't know if they're still running, probably). What struck me a bit (and what I find even kind of funny), is that these were black and white ads that tried to portray Eastern Europe as this gloomy place where these old Jewish ladies had been left behind. Of course, the poor should be helped but there are orgs in the EE that help and give out similar packages. The Jewish community also received some restitution money. They have their own charities as well. I'm not sure about Ukraine and Russia, but in the Baltic States elderly Jews don't really look like in those ads (they're much better taken care of). These videos gave off a kind of a Boraty vibe. Jews can be funny sometimes with their "creativity".

    Israel lacked food back when the US was not yet helping Israel and Israel went through the rough times alone (the 1950s, 60s) when the state was being set up and when they fought the Arabs. But they might need food now, and especially the Gazans. Their farming sector which was quite inventive, has taken a hit. So maybe those ads make sense now, but a few years back they seemed a bit out of place. From an E.Euro perspective, they seem like a stark contrast with reality. But these types of ads go with that whole grievance genre. And as I said - times are harder now, so maybe some Jews in Ukraine need this (many affluent folks have bailed Ukraine, although their volunteer networks are more robust now than ever before).

    Not everyone is buying it though, the Gen X are like "yea, right", the young probably don't care, it might be geared towards the 55+ Hannity audience. Maybe Americans, who sometimes can be naive and not fully informed about overseas, simply like passing out food, they've done this on many occasions, they even sent food over to the Baltics during the Civil War years after the revolution.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    Baltic States

    Because Baltic States are like the equivalent to Norway of the postsoviet states. After the 1990s, Baltic states recovered to multiple times higher GDP per capita than Ukraine. They have working governments with EU monitoring, they don’t have wars or even political instability for thirty years.

    They are part of the EU internal market and received tens of billions of dollars direct transfers from the EU.

    Ukraine has war, political instability, corruption, industrial collapse. As the result Ukraine has tens of millions of poor people.

    What happens with Ukraine is a scary failure of history. Not so many years in the past, the USSR was supposed to save the world.

    the Baltic States elderly Jews don’t really look like in those ads (they’re much better taken care of). These videos gave off a kind of a Boraty vibe.

    The number of Baltic Jews is smaller than the population of Izium. They can be urbanized middle class populations, but probably most of their infrastructure funded with support of external-donations, including maybe holocaust restitution from the German government, donations from wealthy American Jews.

    These a very small communities, but I have seen each of the three Baltic Jewish communities have multiple shiny schools with digital classroom equipment, though the population is a minority of a minority?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1e8RSqfJY.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgYIq6IwlgA.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdAIi_46Gc.

    I guess that’s external donations funding not different than in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Dmitry


    They have working governments with EU monitoring, they don’t have wars or even political instability for thirty years.
     
    EU monitoring is probably not the right way of phrasing it - there was close cooperation before 2004, as part of integration processes, but not now. And even back then we relied on our own institutions mostly and the parliamentary system which could be rocky so it's not like we were always artificially "propped up" (as you seem to imply, although you're not wrong that there is support and there was pressure during the accession). If you mean that there was institutional help from the EU and investments that Ukraine, for example, didn't receive, then yes, but Ukraine was receiving some FDI before 2022 based purely on its own attractiveness because trade was growing. I don't think Ukraine ever lacked food.

    I didn't mean to compare Ukraine with the Baltic States - I believe Ukraine has a much more challenging position (even before the invasion), but also more potential. Ukraine's position is much more complex (this is an understatement) and undeservedly so.

    Maybe I didn't express myself clearly - I was referring to ads on American cable TV that were run prior to 2022 (doubt you have seen these). This was before the war when things were easier. Even though there was war already then, there were still affluent Jewish (and Ukrainian, Russian or other) individuals in Ukraine (some of who later bailed to Dubai and elsewhere). That doesn't mean there were no poor Jews there, ofc. IIRC, these ads were showing poor elderly Jews, saying these are Jews from some East Slavic countries (or Holocaust survivors). I don't recall which country or if they even mentioned it (but they painted it as some awful place somewhere in the East). I felt that this was a bit exaggerated but I admit that in parts of EE there could be such people. If you noticed, I did write - if there are poor, they should be helped (regardless where the funding comes from). We, too, have poor people, of all nationalities, and there are services for them that are not connected to international donors. There are many locally run charities.

    Someone above implied that these ads might be a scam, which I personally doubt, but I simply pointed out what I felt didn't match with reality. Some of the Jewish run businesses have traditionally been non-transparent, I'm not saying most, but it's a stereotype - personally, I find it amusing (as long as nobody gets swindled) because they don't have hang ups and are persistent (which is admirable in a way). They are scrappy and are not averse to creative solutions. :) In the US and Israel especially.

    Btw, I know Jews in my home town who have not received a single penny from any overseas donors and who get by just fine with their own jobs - and who are different from the more affluent Jews (such as those in the finance or IT sector - and there are talented and loyal ones among those, in fact, most of them, they also earn their own money from our local economy). They have small businesses and private shops, they don't have a lot but they do get by. These are our local Jews that we've always had.

    There are two Jewish communities in Latvia - one is the authentic local one and the other is run by a Jewish banker who arrived from Belarus in the 1980s (you can see him in the second video you posted). This guy is loaded and he has the best contacts with the Americans. His org received 40M euros in restitution recently, purely from our budget, not international donors (yes, I know that's not a lot, but they wanted more). All the children should be "our children" and they shouldn't separate that way. Basically they wanted the state to pay for what wasn't claimed back in the early 1990s, when they weren't able to organize into a single institution to claim the money pertaining to the religions sites. This is understandable, but don't tell me, Dima, that we don't take care of our Jews. The Jewish community should not be separated from the rest. When others do not stand between us, do not meddle and don't try to decided for us, we do well.

    The Jewish school in Riga is supported financially by the Riga City council and the Riga Jewish community, as well as the local private businesses (including for the digital equipment that you saw as well as school buses), not from overseas donors - although the Jewish community might be receiving private donations from overseas as well (probably not that much). They are entitled to all of these resources (both private and public).

    Anyway, I don't want to be confrontational about this.

    I do like the videos you posted, especially the last one, the one from Lithuania. It is so cute how they are asking them "what do you associate Shabbat with". It would be fun if they learned to speak some Yiddish. Then they could walk on cobble stone streets and speak Yiddish words. Authentic. :) Happy Passover.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @sudden death
    @Dmitry


    Because Baltic States are like the equivalent to Norway of the postsoviet states. After the 1990s, Baltic states recovered to multiple times higher GDP per capita than Ukraine.
     
    Recently there was some optimistic snapshot about current politico/economic situation in Lithuania published in Bloomberg, but it was bit surprising to see it also noticing and being quite complimentary to existing trend of apsirational nation building ethos, which is actually rooted in quite strong local ethnonationalism framework:

    The biggest resource the country has, however, is not any particular expertise but its commitment to nation-building. The sense that this is a “golden age” goes along with a sense of vulnerability: Lithuanians are only too conscious that the only way that a tiny country like theirs can survive in a dangerous world is to build a high-tech economy that can outthink and outmaneuver its giant neighbors. Different industry groups are willing to share knowledge and money in order to create flourishing ecosystems. Companies also have an extraordinary ability to reinvent themselves as the situation changes — particularly as the threat of war has grown in recent years.

    To get a sense of the power of nation-building in shaping Lithuanian business, consider two companies in the laser-and-optics world — one an established company and the other a growing start-up.

    https://archive.ph/PPWL1

     

    Replies: @sudden death

  395. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    NATO is not going to launch ICBMs if Russia uses tactical nukes on NATO assets in Finland.

    Which assets would those be exactly and why would NATO not launch tactical nukes in response on Russian assets in occupied Ukraine?

    What would the point be of such an attack? Saving Finns from themselves by nuking them or something?

    This is part of an escalation ladder which Finland foolishly decided to get tangled in.

    The equation doesn't change. It's the same as in Wargames. Everyone loses if the nukes go off and it doesn't matter if Finland is in NATO. This is why Putin's claims of "nuke silos on the border" were always bullshit. They don't build nuke towers anymore and it wouldn't change the equation. There are in fact ZERO nuke towers in the Baltics and they are in NATO. Case number #2737 where the dwarf is just plain full of shit and would get laughed at if he tried to make that claim in an actual free media where questions can be asked.

    The Western enticement to Finland goes something like this: “We want you stupid Fins to be the trip wire and a human shield for WW3

    So you are saying it was the West that enticed Finland after decades of neutrality? It just so happens that they were able to do it after Putin invaded a non-NATO country?

    I hope the Fins are wise enough to drop out of NATO as soon as they root out the sellouts and idiots who signed them up.

    More wishful thinking on your support. A strong majority of Finns supported joining NATO.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/finland-nato-survey-membership/32145117.html

    The rest of the world does not share your support of a mass murdering dwarf and his invasion that the UN voted 143-5 as being illegal. So you disagree with that vote I assume and believe that Russia, North Korea and Belarus are on the side of justice?

    Once Russia decides to cut energy supplies (if it comes to that) Odessa is all that Ukraine will have left for fuel.

    Ok so explain why it couldn't go through rail like other landlocked European countries.

    Western forces settling into Ukraine in a big way (formally or informally) leads to a bigger war later, so more Slavs die in that case.

    So over 100,000 Slavs were going to die in a future war? Which war would that be?

    Replies: @QCIC

    People such as yourself need to think more clearly and not accept MSM opinions and UN votes uncritically. Most of that gibberish is generated by incompetent liars.

    NATO doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Finland. NATO is USA+UK+France, all the other members are serfs or eunuchs.

    I’m worried about the war where most of the Slavs die (along with the rest of us), so we don’t need to quibble over numbers like hundreds of thousands or tens of millions or whatever. Since Russia has a potent nuclear arsenal with some of the most advanced ICBMs, submarines, bombers and cruise missiles I confidently infer that their senior people worry about this problem even more than I do.

    The West has been working all of the countries bordering Russia since long before 1991 to weaken and take down the Kremlin power structure and Russian sovereignty. Everyone knows this and both sides disclosed many activities. The West won the Cold War and should have stopped this intrigue. Unfortunately, the MIC and CIA were entrenched by then so they kept going full speed with the enthusiastic support of the (((neocons))). One of the interesting things about this Ukraine mess is that much of the information is not hidden or obscure. One needs to pay just a little attention to see the big picture. I recommend Carlton Meyer’s excellent video series for newbies.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC


    NATO is USA+UK+France, all the other members are serfs or eunuchs.
     
    Oh yea? You've been listening at all what France has been saying lately? This is all "thanks" to the likes of yourself. Not that it's bad (you've managed to alienate even the "eunuchs").
  396. @Mikhail
    Banderastan on Capitol Hill

    https://thegrayzone.com/2024/04/25/ukrainian-arrested-assault-grayzone-contributor/

    Replies: @QCIC

    Hey AP, nice shirt!

  397. Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: $61 Billion Can’t Save Ukraine.

    • Disagree: Mr. Hack
  398. @Dmitry
    @LatW


    Baltic States
     
    Because Baltic States are like the equivalent to Norway of the postsoviet states. After the 1990s, Baltic states recovered to multiple times higher GDP per capita than Ukraine. They have working governments with EU monitoring, they don't have wars or even political instability for thirty years.

    They are part of the EU internal market and received tens of billions of dollars direct transfers from the EU.

    Ukraine has war, political instability, corruption, industrial collapse. As the result Ukraine has tens of millions of poor people.
    -

    What happens with Ukraine is a scary failure of history. Not so many years in the past, the USSR was supposed to save the world.


    the Baltic States elderly Jews don’t really look like in those ads (they’re much better taken care of). These videos gave off a kind of a Boraty vibe.

     

    The number of Baltic Jews is smaller than the population of Izium. They can be urbanized middle class populations, but probably most of their infrastructure funded with support of external-donations, including maybe holocaust restitution from the German government, donations from wealthy American Jews.

    These a very small communities, but I have seen each of the three Baltic Jewish communities have multiple shiny schools with digital classroom equipment, though the population is a minority of a minority?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1e8RSqfJY.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgYIq6IwlgA.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdAIi_46Gc.

    I guess that's external donations funding not different than in Ukraine.

    Replies: @LatW, @sudden death

    They have working governments with EU monitoring, they don’t have wars or even political instability for thirty years.

    EU monitoring is probably not the right way of phrasing it – there was close cooperation before 2004, as part of integration processes, but not now. And even back then we relied on our own institutions mostly and the parliamentary system which could be rocky so it’s not like we were always artificially “propped up” (as you seem to imply, although you’re not wrong that there is support and there was pressure during the accession). If you mean that there was institutional help from the EU and investments that Ukraine, for example, didn’t receive, then yes, but Ukraine was receiving some FDI before 2022 based purely on its own attractiveness because trade was growing. I don’t think Ukraine ever lacked food.

    [MORE]

    I didn’t mean to compare Ukraine with the Baltic States – I believe Ukraine has a much more challenging position (even before the invasion), but also more potential. Ukraine’s position is much more complex (this is an understatement) and undeservedly so.

    Maybe I didn’t express myself clearly – I was referring to ads on American cable TV that were run prior to 2022 (doubt you have seen these). This was before the war when things were easier. Even though there was war already then, there were still affluent Jewish (and Ukrainian, Russian or other) individuals in Ukraine (some of who later bailed to Dubai and elsewhere). That doesn’t mean there were no poor Jews there, ofc. IIRC, these ads were showing poor elderly Jews, saying these are Jews from some East Slavic countries (or Holocaust survivors). I don’t recall which country or if they even mentioned it (but they painted it as some awful place somewhere in the East). I felt that this was a bit exaggerated but I admit that in parts of EE there could be such people. If you noticed, I did write – if there are poor, they should be helped (regardless where the funding comes from). We, too, have poor people, of all nationalities, and there are services for them that are not connected to international donors. There are many locally run charities.

    Someone above implied that these ads might be a scam, which I personally doubt, but I simply pointed out what I felt didn’t match with reality. Some of the Jewish run businesses have traditionally been non-transparent, I’m not saying most, but it’s a stereotype – personally, I find it amusing (as long as nobody gets swindled) because they don’t have hang ups and are persistent (which is admirable in a way). They are scrappy and are not averse to creative solutions. 🙂 In the US and Israel especially.

    Btw, I know Jews in my home town who have not received a single penny from any overseas donors and who get by just fine with their own jobs – and who are different from the more affluent Jews (such as those in the finance or IT sector – and there are talented and loyal ones among those, in fact, most of them, they also earn their own money from our local economy). They have small businesses and private shops, they don’t have a lot but they do get by. These are our local Jews that we’ve always had.

    There are two Jewish communities in Latvia – one is the authentic local one and the other is run by a Jewish banker who arrived from Belarus in the 1980s (you can see him in the second video you posted). This guy is loaded and he has the best contacts with the Americans. His org received 40M euros in restitution recently, purely from our budget, not international donors (yes, I know that’s not a lot, but they wanted more). All the children should be “our children” and they shouldn’t separate that way. Basically they wanted the state to pay for what wasn’t claimed back in the early 1990s, when they weren’t able to organize into a single institution to claim the money pertaining to the religions sites. This is understandable, but don’t tell me, Dima, that we don’t take care of our Jews. The Jewish community should not be separated from the rest. When others do not stand between us, do not meddle and don’t try to decided for us, we do well.

    The Jewish school in Riga is supported financially by the Riga City council and the Riga Jewish community, as well as the local private businesses (including for the digital equipment that you saw as well as school buses), not from overseas donors – although the Jewish community might be receiving private donations from overseas as well (probably not that much). They are entitled to all of these resources (both private and public).

    Anyway, I don’t want to be confrontational about this.

    I do like the videos you posted, especially the last one, the one from Lithuania. It is so cute how they are asking them “what do you associate Shabbat with”. It would be fun if they learned to speak some Yiddish. Then they could walk on cobble stone streets and speak Yiddish words. Authentic. 🙂 Happy Passover.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @LatW


    affluent Jewish (and Ukrainian, Russian or other) individuals in Ukraine IT sector
     
    On social media I was a member of some groups for startups in Ukraine. I have a zero connection with Ukraine. I'm not a supporter of the Ukrainian government or politics. I was just in those groups in social media to follow the scene.

    When there was an event in Israel, those spaces are flooded with Israel flags. It could feel like at least half of people in the startup scene online spaces in Kiev have Jewish-roots.

    Why is it like this in Kiev?

    Maybe, the budget for education has collapsed in Ukraine in the 1990s. In the 2000s, in Ukraine there was not much access to modern informatics equipment for the majority of school students. In Russian schools it was like this.

    But, some of those schools in Ukraine had more rapid access to external funding resources from Silicon Valley and international organizations. They had the ICT equipment which means they were introducing students to computer science at an earlier age, creating more interest for the career path.

    For example, in 2005, Cisco became the partner to a secular Jewish school in Kiev. https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/global/ru_ua/assets/pdf/netacadetechnology.pdf

    So, it was a kind of relatively oversupply of students from Ukrainian Jewish schools in the 2000s epoch, as those schools were faster to access external funding and had the relevant equipment for pre-university interest in the area.

    In 2020s, more of Ukrainian society has ways to access external funding resources and the distribution of the equipment is almost universal, so it would been a very temporary situation of the 2000s.

    Also, I wouldn't say ICT sector is affluent there. But they are more affluent than the other segments of the middle class.


    (you can see him in the second video you posted).

     

    Sukharenko. You fear he will cut from the restitution budget and move the money to Belarus? Latvia is in the EU so they should have some rules of accountancy when spending government money.

    including for the digital equipment that you saw as well as school buses), not from overseas donors –

     

    Latvia spends $2 million to give them a new building. But it seems like the technology labs, was from an external funding resource. https://rus.delfi.lv/5503960/commercials/38499865/novaya-zhizn-rizhskoy-evreyskoy-sredney-shkoly-im-sh-dubnova

    . It would be fun if they learned to speak some Yiddish. Then they could walk on cobble stone streets and speak Yiddish words. Authentic. 🙂 Happy Passover
     
    Isn't this one of the Russian schools of Latvia which now has to transition language to Latvian.

    They had to remove the Russian identity from the school and replace it with Latvian. They will only teach Latvian and Hebrew in the school now.

    Children are flexible and don't care much. It's probably not easy for their teachers. I wonder if a lot of the Soviet teachers with Russian nationality will just retire?

  399. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    People such as yourself need to think more clearly and not accept MSM opinions and UN votes uncritically. Most of that gibberish is generated by incompetent liars.

    NATO doesn't give a rat's ass about Finland. NATO is USA+UK+France, all the other members are serfs or eunuchs.

    I'm worried about the war where most of the Slavs die (along with the rest of us), so we don't need to quibble over numbers like hundreds of thousands or tens of millions or whatever. Since Russia has a potent nuclear arsenal with some of the most advanced ICBMs, submarines, bombers and cruise missiles I confidently infer that their senior people worry about this problem even more than I do.

    The West has been working all of the countries bordering Russia since long before 1991 to weaken and take down the Kremlin power structure and Russian sovereignty. Everyone knows this and both sides disclosed many activities. The West won the Cold War and should have stopped this intrigue. Unfortunately, the MIC and CIA were entrenched by then so they kept going full speed with the enthusiastic support of the (((neocons))). One of the interesting things about this Ukraine mess is that much of the information is not hidden or obscure. One needs to pay just a little attention to see the big picture. I recommend Carlton Meyer's excellent video series for newbies.

    Replies: @LatW

    NATO is USA+UK+France, all the other members are serfs or eunuchs.

    Oh yea? You’ve been listening at all what France has been saying lately? This is all “thanks” to the likes of yourself. Not that it’s bad (you’ve managed to alienate even the “eunuchs”).

  400. @LatW
    @Beckow


    For example Dacians had a sophisticated civilization based on archeology and almost nothing got preserved.
     
    Absolutely, they did. Maybe we shouldn't approach it in a way as to who is superior or what not - all of these cultures, both material and oral / spiritual, are really cool. Even those European cultures that were not as materially and artistically refined or didn't preserve volumes, were / are valuable.

    Dacians had an interesting mythology and Thracian art is beautiful, they had fantastic and original helmets.


    When we hear that the Greeks invented ‘democracy’
     
    It seems that it is widely recognized that there were other forms of democracy early on (such as the Althing or the Veche), and that there was slavery in Greece (although one can argue that the Greek citizens represented their families and their slaves, as honorable citizens would).

    as when Americans claim that they wrote the “first Constitution”.
     
    Most educated Americans are aware of the primacy of the Magna Carta.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/ca/80/07ca808adb99773e78fc3366fffa4218.jpg

    Replies: @Coconuts

    Absolutely, they did. Maybe we shouldn’t approach it in a way as to who is superior or what not – all of these cultures, both material and oral / spiritual, are really cool. Even those European cultures that were not as materially and artistically refined or didn’t preserve volumes, were / are valuable.

    I know different things have been written about Dacianism, for example:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacianism

    The term ‘protochronism’ has entered political science terminology from Dacianism.

    It seems that it is widely recognized that there were other forms of democracy early on (such as the Althing or the Veche), and that there was slavery in Greece (although one can argue that the Greek citizens represented their families and their slaves, as honorable citizens would).

    I think contemporary concepts of democracy date more to the 17th and 18th centuries, though they looked to the Athenian polis and Roman civitas for some inspiration. Where the ultimate inspiration behind contemporary ideas about equality and individual rights come from can be controversial, but afaik it first begins to be articulated in forms familiar to us with the advent of liberalism in the 17th century.

  401. I think China is telling Blinken to boil his head. He’d gone there to tell them not to sell stuff to Russia.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2547ll8z0ro

    Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has cautioned his US counterpart Antony Blinken against stepping on China’s “red lines”, as the two country’s top diplomats met in Beijing on Friday.

    Mr Wang opened the meeting with a question which sounded more like a warning: “Should China and the United States keep to the right direction of moving forward with stability or return to a downward spiral?”

    The China-US relationship is beginning to stabilise, but it is still being tested by “negative factors”, he added.

    Mr Blinken, who is on his second visit to China in less than a year, will wrap up his trip with China’s President Xi Jinping on Friday afternoon.

    The meeting between Mr Blinken and President Xi was announced just hours before it is due to happen.

    Earlier on Friday, Mr Wang had warned that both countries could either engage in cooperation or confrontation, and even a “slide into conflict”.

    “Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats”

    https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @YetAnotherAnon


    “Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats”
     
    No surprise here. A lot of myths were destroyed in Ukraine. Catastrophic Ukie losses of Leopard tanks were a huge hit to their reputation. British Challengers suffered the same fate. US Abrams tanks followed. Naturally, to prevent further damage to their reputation the US told Ukies to remove Abrams from the front lines. Too late: the bubble has burst, the myth is dead. Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons. The next myth to be destroyed is F16. Inevitability of the death of that myth is likely an important (if not the main) reason Ukraine is not getting F16s despite plenty of hot air over many months.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @AP, @John Johnson

    , @Philip Owen
    @YetAnotherAnon

    And yet Xi gave him an unscheduled audience with warm words about cooperation.

    Xi seems to tell his provincial governors what they want to hear. Recall Putin.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  402. @LatW
    @John Johnson


    I don’t think looks or charisma explain most of the cases.

     

    They may not explain most of the cases, but they may be a factor. There are qualities that might be somewhat related to "charisma" such as the ability to manipulate, or a certain kind of aggressiveness. Verbal skills, boldness, etc.

    Out of the White criminals, who procreated more, did they actually try to split them up and see what they were like? Out of them all, what types were more likely to have reproductive success? What quality of women did they engage with and under what circumstances? Those are relevant questions.


    They really don’t function in society
     
    But they can function in an assertive and even a self-organized way outside of society. Or they can control a gang (a band of men, a Männerbund). See the mafia. This could be observed in the 1990s in Eastern Europe. Some criminals can be quite smart in their own peculiar way.

    It probably has more to do with genes for high testosterone and sociopathy or psychopathy.

     

    Well, there are men who are higher T who are not criminals so are they generally more attractive (or more attractive during ovulation)? Do those men have more kids and partners? Do they have more short term partners? Etc etc.

    Sociopathy, too, can coincide with boldness, which is a rather masculine trait. Maybe even inaccessibility. There is boldness without accountability. It's the boldness part that women like (or the men simply approach more actively, maybe even date rape more), not so much the lack of accountability (or they want their cake and eat it too).


    A combination that makes women tingle due to their natural attraction to the “challenger male” that isn’t afraid of combating the alpha in charge of the group.
     
    True, the challenger male is attractive, but are most criminals "challenger types"? Aren't plenty of challenger types who are not criminals (or even aren't antisocial or follow at least some rules)? Within the Russian prison system, for example, there is also a hierarchy.

    It’s a high risk/high gain evolutionary strategy for the male.
     
    Yes. As I said, that's because of low investment. That's what I meant by "they care less". They might sire kids earlier in life and leave them. They might approach more women without thinking much about it. They might cheat more (or are better at hiding it since they can be crafty). The women simply lie to themselves that "he will change" or they'll be able to control him. It doesn't mean that the women desire criminal behaviors (but rather that some of these ultra-masculine behaviors sometimes lead to criminality). For most women a criminal record will be off putting.

    The women benefit regardless.
     
    Only if they receive some kind of protection. This is not the kind of model that most women find the most desirable. They do want some control and predictability.

    But in any prison/procreation study you would really have to break it down by race because it will be skewed by Blacks.
     
    Absolutely. Race, immigration status, T levels, etc.

    I don’t doubt that White criminals have more children than White engineers.
     
    Yea, but that's not just because White engineers are "nerdier" but also because they are more rational and careful about their relationships. They prefer a different reproductive strategy. Or most likely aren't able to even employ this low investment strategy (thankfully). With some exceptions. Then those are actually quite good, because those can be quite eugenic.

    Anyway, I'm not disputing what you wrote, just wondering. Nice topic on this lovely day.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Wokechoke

    One factor – blacks and travellers are heavily over-represented in UK prisons.

    Ideally the figures should be broken down by race.

  403. Putin retarded Russia’s progress

    I don’t think there was any to retard. Relative to the West it has been backward for half a millennium

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Sean

    Relative to the West, it's now advancing at a better rate despite the sanctions designed to punish it which have backfired.

    Putin surely didn't retard Russia's progress, contrary to such retarded opinion; thereby explaining his popularity in Russia and disdain which neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters have for him.

    Replies: @Sean, @Mr. Hack, @Wielgus

    , @AP
    @Sean

    Until Putin chose to annex Crimea, Russia was converging with the Visegrad countries. Had this process continued it would have (as have the Visegrad countries) eventually attained a Mediterranean European level of wealth. Instead, Russia is at the level of the Balkans, or Mexico.

    Of course, under Putin Russia stopped and reversed the catastrophic 90s decline. So he has undone his own legacy by choosing to invade Ukraine.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Mr. XYZ

  404. @Sean

    Putin retarded Russia’s progress
     
    I don't think there was any to retard. Relative to the West it has been backward for half a millennium

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    Relative to the West, it’s now advancing at a better rate despite the sanctions designed to punish it which have backfired.

    Putin surely didn’t retard Russia’s progress, contrary to such retarded opinion; thereby explaining his popularity in Russia and disdain which neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters have for him.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Mikhail

    Russian society is too low trust, or put it another way family based, for ever being an advanced state to compare with those in the West. China is very different, but not inferior.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Relative to the West, it’s now advancing at a better rate despite the sanctions designed to punish it which have backfired.
     
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4PqDdY2XKv8/Wq-pkUij9-I/AAAAAAAAvLI/uW11fhoHpr0eAXlVj2B11S7MtJ9YGEhFQCLcBGAs/s1600/russia-vladimir-putin-cartoon.jpg

    Putin surely didn’t retard Russia’s progress, contrary to such retarded opinion; thereby explaining his popularity in Russia and disdain which neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters have for him.
     
    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/M79Z6YMaSqGJycZDrefF7-1200-80.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Wielgus
    @Mikhail

    The ideal ruler of Russia from the West's point of view is someone like Boris Yeltsin. The opinion that he was straight-up in the pay of Western governments/intelligence agencies is widespread in Russia.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AnonfromTN

  405. Avar harem sharing confirmed? But don’t think that’s some unique pastoralist phenomenon, IIRC it was observed by Danish envoy that Ivan Grozny had it also in practice and was sharing with his sons:

    The genetic analysis revealed that both men and women commonly had children with more than one partner. It also produced clear evidence for a practice called levirate, which is when closely related men have children with the same woman, often following the death of one of the men. The team found three pairs of fathers and sons, two pairs of brothers, and an uncle and nephew who each had shared a female partner.

    “All the aforementioned phenomena lead us to assume that the segment of Avar society we investigated had a structure comparable to that of Eurasian pastoralist steppe people,” particularly in terms of patrilineality or male-reckoned descent, the researchers wrote in their study.

    https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/dna-analysis-spanning-9-generations-of-people-reveals-marriage-practices-of-mysterious-warrior-culture

    • Replies: @LatW
    @sudden death

    Thanks for posting that. I've been looking for information on the "brother's family" structure, trying to see if such a thing really existed (especially for our people, there is something that sounds like a reference to it in the old poems - it seems like some kind of a social structure where younger men ruled and were relied on more). There is something called plures ex fratribus, I'm trying to find out what it was.

    , @Philip Owen
    @sudden death

    That's bascially the same thing as the original basis for muslim harems. If a brother died then a survivng brother took the widow as an extra wife and provided for her children, his nephews and neices.

  406. @LatW
    @John Johnson


    I don’t think looks or charisma explain most of the cases.

     

    They may not explain most of the cases, but they may be a factor. There are qualities that might be somewhat related to "charisma" such as the ability to manipulate, or a certain kind of aggressiveness. Verbal skills, boldness, etc.

    Out of the White criminals, who procreated more, did they actually try to split them up and see what they were like? Out of them all, what types were more likely to have reproductive success? What quality of women did they engage with and under what circumstances? Those are relevant questions.


    They really don’t function in society
     
    But they can function in an assertive and even a self-organized way outside of society. Or they can control a gang (a band of men, a Männerbund). See the mafia. This could be observed in the 1990s in Eastern Europe. Some criminals can be quite smart in their own peculiar way.

    It probably has more to do with genes for high testosterone and sociopathy or psychopathy.

     

    Well, there are men who are higher T who are not criminals so are they generally more attractive (or more attractive during ovulation)? Do those men have more kids and partners? Do they have more short term partners? Etc etc.

    Sociopathy, too, can coincide with boldness, which is a rather masculine trait. Maybe even inaccessibility. There is boldness without accountability. It's the boldness part that women like (or the men simply approach more actively, maybe even date rape more), not so much the lack of accountability (or they want their cake and eat it too).


    A combination that makes women tingle due to their natural attraction to the “challenger male” that isn’t afraid of combating the alpha in charge of the group.
     
    True, the challenger male is attractive, but are most criminals "challenger types"? Aren't plenty of challenger types who are not criminals (or even aren't antisocial or follow at least some rules)? Within the Russian prison system, for example, there is also a hierarchy.

    It’s a high risk/high gain evolutionary strategy for the male.
     
    Yes. As I said, that's because of low investment. That's what I meant by "they care less". They might sire kids earlier in life and leave them. They might approach more women without thinking much about it. They might cheat more (or are better at hiding it since they can be crafty). The women simply lie to themselves that "he will change" or they'll be able to control him. It doesn't mean that the women desire criminal behaviors (but rather that some of these ultra-masculine behaviors sometimes lead to criminality). For most women a criminal record will be off putting.

    The women benefit regardless.
     
    Only if they receive some kind of protection. This is not the kind of model that most women find the most desirable. They do want some control and predictability.

    But in any prison/procreation study you would really have to break it down by race because it will be skewed by Blacks.
     
    Absolutely. Race, immigration status, T levels, etc.

    I don’t doubt that White criminals have more children than White engineers.
     
    Yea, but that's not just because White engineers are "nerdier" but also because they are more rational and careful about their relationships. They prefer a different reproductive strategy. Or most likely aren't able to even employ this low investment strategy (thankfully). With some exceptions. Then those are actually quite good, because those can be quite eugenic.

    Anyway, I'm not disputing what you wrote, just wondering. Nice topic on this lovely day.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Wokechoke

    White convicts in the UK. See US and Australia.

  407. @Mikhail
    @Sean

    Relative to the West, it's now advancing at a better rate despite the sanctions designed to punish it which have backfired.

    Putin surely didn't retard Russia's progress, contrary to such retarded opinion; thereby explaining his popularity in Russia and disdain which neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters have for him.

    Replies: @Sean, @Mr. Hack, @Wielgus

    Russian society is too low trust, or put it another way family based, for ever being an advanced state to compare with those in the West. China is very different, but not inferior.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    Russian society is too low trust
     
    Were you ever in Russia? Do you have any first-hand experience with Russian society? If not, your opinion is as valid as my opinion about the society on Nibiru.

    Replies: @Sean

  408. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...that doesn’t mean the church was fully free.
     
    What does "fully free" mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980's anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying. (I don't know about the Soviets.)

    For most of my friends it was a personal choice, few were very religious but some were more atheist than the government. Most were unsure, in the middle, changing mind - very similar to the West. This nonsense that "Church was banned" or that "people had to smuggle in Bibles" is a very stupid Westie propaganda. I have heard "educated" Westies claim that. One told me "sure, you could go to Church but you could get shot for it". How do you deal with propaganda that deep? And who are the stupid ones here?

    Let's not feed the idiocy. It wasn't perfect - it never is - but Christianity was not banned and the believer-agnostic-atheist dynamic was quite similar to other societies. What they really objected to is that the Christian hierarchy didn't control the state institutions.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    What does “fully free” mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980’s anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying

    I have heard “educated” Westies claim that. One told me “sure, you could go to Church but you could get shot for it

    These are two examples of falsehoods. The Westerner at least wasn’t there, and relies on third hand information. What is your excuse?

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    “ In the period spanning the 1970s and 1980s, known as ‘normalization’, the underground Church was already well enough organized to operate under Communist rule. Also, the repression was less brutal than in the 1950s. The underground Church was able to provide religious services, education, literature, and a community of likeminded people, mostly without major collisions with the authorities. However, several operations were conducted by the secret police against religious orders, and many individuals were harassed by the Communist authorities, expelled from schools or forced to accept menial jobs, even if educated”

    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/05/19/catholics-in-communist-czechoslovakia-a-story-of-persecution-and-perseverance/

    “I think that in the 1980s, every practicing Catholic, if you did not live in complete isolation, perceived the threat to the Faith and Christian life by the Communist regime. It is true that the oppression of Christians at that time was far less harsh, in terms of police crackdowns and court procedures, and by this time sentences based on religious activity were not longer than two years, unlike in the 1950s when it was common for practicing Catholic to be condemned to 15-30 years in concentration camps. The persecution of Christians in the 1970s and ‘80s shifted more to the level of sanctions in employment, which was also very hard, so that’s why I conclude, based on my personal experience, that every practicing Catholic was aware of the threat to Faith and Christian life. At the time, however, despite the persecution, the Catholics usually did not leave the Church, but today, in the era of constitutional democracy and freedom, they do.”

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...underground Church...many individuals were harassed by the Communist authorities, expelled from schools or forced to accept menial jobs, even if educated
     
    The underground church was not the Church, but small groups of fanatics with crazy ideas like women-kids are subservient, not sending kids to commie schools, no medicines-vaccines, martyrdom..."Evangelicals" and "anabaptists", basically nutcases walking around with the holy book and yelling at everyone. Their numbers were very small - the usual assortment of dozen crazies. Some did it so they could easily emigrate, they would play the "I am a crazy Jesus-freak!" card to get a visa to Canada.

    It doesn't bother me, to each his own, but most societies in Europe tried to control it - Germany still does, no "Jehovah Witnesses" allowed. Or deranged Mormons who would harass people in their homes with the "word from god". They would get fines, the more fanatical ones would suffer at work - as they do in the West even today.

    The regular Churches were completely fine, people went or not. Commies usually through the back door, you would be surprised how many party members went to Church ("special occasions", "family made me do it..")...

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950's were charged for their Nazi collaboration. If they didn't collaborate or tried to hide collaborators in monasteries they were fine. WW2 Nazi-regimes were propped up by the Church. Many priests were government ministers and fanatical monks with Nazi SS chased resistors and "Jews" in the hills. It was a just retribution, the same happened in France, Belgium, Italy...

    Why do you lie about "Christian persecution" by quoting obviously one-sided ideological drivel?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

  409. @YetAnotherAnon
    I think China is telling Blinken to boil his head. He'd gone there to tell them not to sell stuff to Russia.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2547ll8z0ro


    Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has cautioned his US counterpart Antony Blinken against stepping on China's "red lines”, as the two country's top diplomats met in Beijing on Friday.

    Mr Wang opened the meeting with a question which sounded more like a warning: "Should China and the United States keep to the right direction of moving forward with stability or return to a downward spiral?"

    The China-US relationship is beginning to stabilise, but it is still being tested by "negative factors", he added.

    Mr Blinken, who is on his second visit to China in less than a year, will wrap up his trip with China's President Xi Jinping on Friday afternoon.

    The meeting between Mr Blinken and President Xi was announced just hours before it is due to happen.

    Earlier on Friday, Mr Wang had warned that both countries could either engage in cooperation or confrontation, and even a "slide into conflict".

     

    "Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats"

    https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Philip Owen

    “Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats”

    No surprise here. A lot of myths were destroyed in Ukraine. Catastrophic Ukie losses of Leopard tanks were a huge hit to their reputation. British Challengers suffered the same fate. US Abrams tanks followed. Naturally, to prevent further damage to their reputation the US told Ukies to remove Abrams from the front lines. Too late: the bubble has burst, the myth is dead. Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons. The next myth to be destroyed is F16. Inevitability of the death of that myth is likely an important (if not the main) reason Ukraine is not getting F16s despite plenty of hot air over many months.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @AnonfromTN

    More M777 en route.

    https://t.me/llordofwar/335941

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    No surprise here. A lot of myths were destroyed in Ukraine. Catastrophic Ukie losses of Leopard tanks were a huge hit to their reputation. British Challengers suffered the same fate. US Abrams tanks followed. Naturally, to prevent further damage to their reputation the US told Ukies to remove Abrams from the front lines
     
    Russian tanks have fared even much worse, both in terms of how easily they are destroyed and in crew survival.

    It may just mean that in the era of drones, tanks may have become obsolete, as had once happened to cavalry.


    Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons.
     
    Genuinely curious how you convince yourself of this nonsense. Given the fact that Russia outnumbers Ukraine by an order of magnitude in terms of “superior” Russian weapons Russians have many more Russian missiles and tanks than Ukrainians have Western ones), how is it according to you that in 2 years Russia has only managed to take about 8% of Ukraine’s territory, mostly in the beginning. It does not have a single oblast capital and indeed gave up parts of Kharkiv oblast and the capital of Kherson oblast.

    Does “superiority” mean being able to take a town after 4 months when you have 5 or 10 times more of the “superior” equipment than the enemy has of the “inferior” equipment?

    Moreover, how to explain that after the battlefield performance has been seen, sales of Western “inferior” equipment have skyrocketed while nobody wants Russian “superior” equipment anymore?

    , @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons.

    The M777 is basic artillery and no one has made any mythical statements about them. But feel free to correct me with a source.

    So what is the Russian equivalent to the Javelin and HIMARs?

    Let's hear about it.

    Give us a lesson.

  410. AP says:
    @Sean

    Putin retarded Russia’s progress
     
    I don't think there was any to retard. Relative to the West it has been backward for half a millennium

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    Until Putin chose to annex Crimea, Russia was converging with the Visegrad countries. Had this process continued it would have (as have the Visegrad countries) eventually attained a Mediterranean European level of wealth. Instead, Russia is at the level of the Balkans, or Mexico.

    Of course, under Putin Russia stopped and reversed the catastrophic 90s decline. So he has undone his own legacy by choosing to invade Ukraine.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @AP

    Kasyanov, then oil reversed the decline, not Putin. Putin's coup in February 2004 ousted Kasyanov in favour of Medveedev who disappointed but Putin returns loyalty. Mishustin is meant to become a Kasyanov clone but without EU and NATO aspirations.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Question for you, AP: If the Putinist state structure in Russia will survive for decades or more, is there any chance of it seeking to massively boost Russia's population in the artificial wombs + IVG (in-vitro gametogenesis) era by massively producing super-smart babies from people's skin cells plus doing mass embryo selection? Such babies can be raised en masse in state-run orphanages if necessary; in other words, a more high-tech version of what previously happened in Ceaucescu's Romania.

    This would be a truly successful example of a Based Rightist country taking it to the utter extreme. Imagine Russia using such technologies to massively boost its population from 150 (or 100+ million) to 1+ billion extremely rapidly.

  411. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...that doesn’t mean the church was fully free.
     
    What does "fully free" mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980's anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying. (I don't know about the Soviets.)

    For most of my friends it was a personal choice, few were very religious but some were more atheist than the government. Most were unsure, in the middle, changing mind - very similar to the West. This nonsense that "Church was banned" or that "people had to smuggle in Bibles" is a very stupid Westie propaganda. I have heard "educated" Westies claim that. One told me "sure, you could go to Church but you could get shot for it". How do you deal with propaganda that deep? And who are the stupid ones here?

    Let's not feed the idiocy. It wasn't perfect - it never is - but Christianity was not banned and the believer-agnostic-atheist dynamic was quite similar to other societies. What they really objected to is that the Christian hierarchy didn't control the state institutions.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.

    As far as the USSR was concerned, this was just as false. You could go to church, if you wanted. The Bible was freely available. I read the Bible for the first time in the USSR in Russian (to be exact, in Church Slavonic, that’s the language of Russian Orthodox Bible). KGB did not spy on people as comprehensively as FBI or CIA, but I am sure some priests were KGB informers reporting who was going to church. Only in two cases going to church could have harmed you: a) if a member of the communist party, which was officially atheist, was reported as going to church, s/he could be expelled; b) if you were a careerist and wanted to go up in the Soviet hierarchy, you had to be a member of the party, and therefore was expected not to go to church. If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm. Refusing to go to church did not buy you any favors.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...some priests were informers reporting who was going to church.
     
    The priests mostly eagerly informed on the under-grounders, it was competition...:)

    If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm. Refusing to go to church did not buy you any favors.
     
    I agree, it was a non-event. But party members often went to church and said "I had to go with my family, my mom is religious...", nobody cared about Christmas or Easter mass, it was a cultural event, great music...Even party members married in church because it was considered more traditional.

    Baptism was trickier. In big cities people would often take their babies to villages they came from for baptism...closer to grandparents and they were trying to be less ostentatious. The nonsense Westies are taught that "Christianity" was suppressed and believers suffered is mostly propaganda. And they repeat it like trained monkeys even after shown the reality.

    , @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN


    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.
     
    As far as the USSR was concerned, this was just as false. You could go to church, if you wanted. The Bible was freely available.

    So you believe people who smuggled in Bibles were either lying or aggrandizing themselves?

    It was illegal to bring Bibles into the USSR. Are you going to deny that?

    The Soviets were trying to control the supply.

    Maybe spend 5 minutes using Google instead of decreeing something as Western propaganda just because you and Beckow think it sounds good.

    While it was legal to own a Bible in the Soviet Union, you could not bring Bibles into the country, nor distribute Bibles, nor even lead a group Bible study.
    https://www.museumofthebible.org/magazine/impact/an-unlikely-story

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Only in two cases going to church could have harmed you: a) if a member of the communist party, which was officially atheist, was reported as going to church, s/he could be expelled; b) if you were a careerist and wanted to go up in the Soviet hierarchy, you had to be a member of the party, and therefore was expected not to go to church. If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm
     
    In other words, going to church barred you from having a management position in the USSR (being a “careerist.”)

    It’s of course much lighter persecution than being executed or imprisoned, but it is still persecution.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  412. @AnonfromTN
    @YetAnotherAnon


    “Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats”
     
    No surprise here. A lot of myths were destroyed in Ukraine. Catastrophic Ukie losses of Leopard tanks were a huge hit to their reputation. British Challengers suffered the same fate. US Abrams tanks followed. Naturally, to prevent further damage to their reputation the US told Ukies to remove Abrams from the front lines. Too late: the bubble has burst, the myth is dead. Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons. The next myth to be destroyed is F16. Inevitability of the death of that myth is likely an important (if not the main) reason Ukraine is not getting F16s despite plenty of hot air over many months.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @AP, @John Johnson

    More M777 en route.

    https://t.me/llordofwar/335941

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @YetAnotherAnon

    One challenge is that Ukraine has few surviving qualified troops to operate this artillery, so the cannons will be operated by NATO troops or mercenaries. The trend seems to be greater public acknowledgement of the Western role on the ground in Ukraine. Unfortunately, the deaths of these guys can lead to escalation (blood for blood). The destruction of the hardware itself is less escalatory since it is just a bunch of expensive scrap metal. Hopefully the discussion of the pointless and provocative deaths of Western soldiers in Ukraine will lead to some push back on this mess.

    , @AnonfromTN
    @YetAnotherAnon


    More M777 en route.
     
    There was an idea to place NATO weapons captured by the RF army in front of the embassies of the countries of origin in Moscow. This idea was nixed, as some weapons (tanks, armored personnel carriers, multiple rocket launchers, etc.) are big and would create traffic hazard. Therefore, Russian ministry of defense organized an open-air exhibit of captured NATO weapons instead. There is already M777 there, so these new ones will be just destroyed at the front and end up being scrap metal.
  413. @Sean
    @Mikhail

    Russian society is too low trust, or put it another way family based, for ever being an advanced state to compare with those in the West. China is very different, but not inferior.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Russian society is too low trust

    Were you ever in Russia? Do you have any first-hand experience with Russian society? If not, your opinion is as valid as my opinion about the society on Nibiru.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    While I know less, I can perhaps be more objective about it than actual Russians. I have read Peter Turchin on the basis of Russia society, and Ukrainian society even more so (Roxolana). What Peter Frost says of Russia is relevant. In 2015 he was quite prescient I think
    https://www.unz.com/pfrost/impressions-of-russia/


    In my opinion Russia is the opposite of Denmark, which is the W.E.IR.D.est of all countries (and the least warlike).

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  414. @YetAnotherAnon
    @AnonfromTN

    More M777 en route.

    https://t.me/llordofwar/335941

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN

    One challenge is that Ukraine has few surviving qualified troops to operate this artillery, so the cannons will be operated by NATO troops or mercenaries. The trend seems to be greater public acknowledgement of the Western role on the ground in Ukraine. Unfortunately, the deaths of these guys can lead to escalation (blood for blood). The destruction of the hardware itself is less escalatory since it is just a bunch of expensive scrap metal. Hopefully the discussion of the pointless and provocative deaths of Western soldiers in Ukraine will lead to some push back on this mess.

  415. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @YetAnotherAnon


    “Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats”
     
    No surprise here. A lot of myths were destroyed in Ukraine. Catastrophic Ukie losses of Leopard tanks were a huge hit to their reputation. British Challengers suffered the same fate. US Abrams tanks followed. Naturally, to prevent further damage to their reputation the US told Ukies to remove Abrams from the front lines. Too late: the bubble has burst, the myth is dead. Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons. The next myth to be destroyed is F16. Inevitability of the death of that myth is likely an important (if not the main) reason Ukraine is not getting F16s despite plenty of hot air over many months.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @AP, @John Johnson

    No surprise here. A lot of myths were destroyed in Ukraine. Catastrophic Ukie losses of Leopard tanks were a huge hit to their reputation. British Challengers suffered the same fate. US Abrams tanks followed. Naturally, to prevent further damage to their reputation the US told Ukies to remove Abrams from the front lines

    Russian tanks have fared even much worse, both in terms of how easily they are destroyed and in crew survival.

    It may just mean that in the era of drones, tanks may have become obsolete, as had once happened to cavalry.

    Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons.

    Genuinely curious how you convince yourself of this nonsense. Given the fact that Russia outnumbers Ukraine by an order of magnitude in terms of “superior” Russian weapons Russians have many more Russian missiles and tanks than Ukrainians have Western ones), how is it according to you that in 2 years Russia has only managed to take about 8% of Ukraine’s territory, mostly in the beginning. It does not have a single oblast capital and indeed gave up parts of Kharkiv oblast and the capital of Kherson oblast.

    Does “superiority” mean being able to take a town after 4 months when you have 5 or 10 times more of the “superior” equipment than the enemy has of the “inferior” equipment?

    Moreover, how to explain that after the battlefield performance has been seen, sales of Western “inferior” equipment have skyrocketed while nobody wants Russian “superior” equipment anymore?

  416. Putin’s Jewish Dr. No seems really upset:

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    That is a good clip which has a clear purpose. His goal is to make it clear that the military and economic pressure being applied to Russia by the USA and the West carries real risks with serious consequences. The current Western leadership has come of age after the Cold War and is too uninformed or incompetent to understand the risks of their foolish actions. These moves include NATO expansion, government coups, dropping nuclear arms control treaties and placing missile bases in Eastern Europe. Most citizens under the influence of the mainstream media are completely misled on these topics, so the purpose of this Solovyov rant is to give them a clue and elevate this discussion around the world. In clips like this, the intended audience is the West.

    The host has to walk a fine line. If he comes across as too crazy that may be seen in the West as a justification for pressuring Russia. If he (Russia) comes off as too mild he is simply ignored. At this point in the process Russia is better off saber rattling loudly to wake up any remaining sensible people in the West. Unfortunately, gung-ho low watt bulbs in the military are very sensitive to this sort of publicity and are more likely to make a catastrophic mistake once they get all worked up. We know from the various purges in the military after 1991 there are very few "steely-eyed missile men" left in the US armed forces. I think the new term is "steely-eyed missile trannies" but that really doesn't have the same ring to it.

  417. @AP
    @Beckow


    What does “fully free” mean? Countries have restricted beliefs forever. Commies did initially too. But by 1980’s anyone claiming that in Central East socialist countries there was religious oppression is lying
     

    I have heard “educated” Westies claim that. One told me “sure, you could go to Church but you could get shot for it

     

    These are two examples of falsehoods. The Westerner at least wasn’t there, and relies on third hand information. What is your excuse?

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    “ In the period spanning the 1970s and 1980s, known as ‘normalization’, the underground Church was already well enough organized to operate under Communist rule. Also, the repression was less brutal than in the 1950s. The underground Church was able to provide religious services, education, literature, and a community of likeminded people, mostly without major collisions with the authorities. However, several operations were conducted by the secret police against religious orders, and many individuals were harassed by the Communist authorities, expelled from schools or forced to accept menial jobs, even if educated”

    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/05/19/catholics-in-communist-czechoslovakia-a-story-of-persecution-and-perseverance/

    “I think that in the 1980s, every practicing Catholic, if you did not live in complete isolation, perceived the threat to the Faith and Christian life by the Communist regime. It is true that the oppression of Christians at that time was far less harsh, in terms of police crackdowns and court procedures, and by this time sentences based on religious activity were not longer than two years, unlike in the 1950s when it was common for practicing Catholic to be condemned to 15-30 years in concentration camps. The persecution of Christians in the 1970s and ‘80s shifted more to the level of sanctions in employment, which was also very hard, so that’s why I conclude, based on my personal experience, that every practicing Catholic was aware of the threat to Faith and Christian life. At the time, however, despite the persecution, the Catholics usually did not leave the Church, but today, in the era of constitutional democracy and freedom, they do.”

    Replies: @Beckow

    …underground Church…many individuals were harassed by the Communist authorities, expelled from schools or forced to accept menial jobs, even if educated

    The underground church was not the Church, but small groups of fanatics with crazy ideas like women-kids are subservient, not sending kids to commie schools, no medicines-vaccines, martyrdom…”Evangelicals” and “anabaptists”, basically nutcases walking around with the holy book and yelling at everyone. Their numbers were very small – the usual assortment of dozen crazies. Some did it so they could easily emigrate, they would play the “I am a crazy Jesus-freak!” card to get a visa to Canada.

    It doesn’t bother me, to each his own, but most societies in Europe tried to control it – Germany still does, no “Jehovah Witnesses” allowed. Or deranged Mormons who would harass people in their homes with the “word from god”. They would get fines, the more fanatical ones would suffer at work – as they do in the West even today.

    The regular Churches were completely fine, people went or not. Commies usually through the back door, you would be surprised how many party members went to Church (“special occasions”, “family made me do it..”)…

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration. If they didn’t collaborate or tried to hide collaborators in monasteries they were fine. WW2 Nazi-regimes were propped up by the Church. Many priests were government ministers and fanatical monks with Nazi SS chased resistors and “Jews” in the hills. It was a just retribution, the same happened in France, Belgium, Italy…

    Why do you lie about “Christian persecution” by quoting obviously one-sided ideological drivel?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Why do you lie about “Christian persecution” by quoting obviously one-sided ideological drivel?
     
    Simple answer: pretty much everything this AP personage posts is either a lie or a snippet of truth twisted beyond recognition.

    Two explanations are possible: a) the personage is a liar; b) the personage is stupid enough to sincerely believe those lies.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    The underground church was not the Church, but small groups of fanatics with crazy ideas like women-kids are subservient, not sending kids to commie schools, no medicines-vaccines, martyrdom…”Evangelicals” and “anabaptists
     
    The article I posted was specifically about the Catholic Church, dummy.

    Your bad socialist school left you ignorant about your own country.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    Official and underground: the survival strategy of the Catholic Church in Communist Czechoslovakia

    “ Despite repression, the Church strived to maintain official operation in Czechoslovakia. Simultaneously, it developed an underground structure that allowed for uncompromised religious life… The strategy chosen by the Catholic Church in Czechoslovakia was specific, compared to other European communist countries, as the Church simultaneously operated both legally and illegally; again, there is a parallel with the current situation of the Christian churches in China”

    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.

    You lie as usual Beckow, claiming it was just sectarian weirdos.

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

     

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality :

    “ The most violent measures targeted the clergy.Footnote27 Most of the bishops were interned, and the control over dioceses was given to vicars capitular and vicars general, previously appointed with the consent of (and often pressure from) the Communist officials. The state also appointed its representatives to oversee the operations of bishops’ offices. Bishops and many priests were sentenced in show trials and often imprisoned in labor camps.Footnote28 Monasteries and religious congregations were dismantled, and their members, both men and women, were interned in selected monasteries that also operated as labor camps. About one-fifth of the members of religious orders were sentenced to prison. The operation of religious orders was illegal until the of end of the communist era.”

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

  418. @YetAnotherAnon
    @AnonfromTN

    More M777 en route.

    https://t.me/llordofwar/335941

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN

    More M777 en route.

    There was an idea to place NATO weapons captured by the RF army in front of the embassies of the countries of origin in Moscow. This idea was nixed, as some weapons (tanks, armored personnel carriers, multiple rocket launchers, etc.) are big and would create traffic hazard. Therefore, Russian ministry of defense organized an open-air exhibit of captured NATO weapons instead. There is already M777 there, so these new ones will be just destroyed at the front and end up being scrap metal.

  419. Is there a multi-dialect/multi state English-Italian dictionary? I want to test the idea that Italians have always used the word “Germania.”

  420. @AnonfromTN
    @YetAnotherAnon


    “Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats”
     
    No surprise here. A lot of myths were destroyed in Ukraine. Catastrophic Ukie losses of Leopard tanks were a huge hit to their reputation. British Challengers suffered the same fate. US Abrams tanks followed. Naturally, to prevent further damage to their reputation the US told Ukies to remove Abrams from the front lines. Too late: the bubble has burst, the myth is dead. Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons. The next myth to be destroyed is F16. Inevitability of the death of that myth is likely an important (if not the main) reason Ukraine is not getting F16s despite plenty of hot air over many months.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @AP, @John Johnson

    Like previous myths about Javelins, Bayraktars, HIMARS, M777 guns, Strikers, Storm Shadow rockets, etc. In real life the West has no weapons superior or even equal to Russian weapons.

    The M777 is basic artillery and no one has made any mythical statements about them. But feel free to correct me with a source.

    So what is the Russian equivalent to the Javelin and HIMARs?

    Let’s hear about it.

    Give us a lesson.

  421. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...underground Church...many individuals were harassed by the Communist authorities, expelled from schools or forced to accept menial jobs, even if educated
     
    The underground church was not the Church, but small groups of fanatics with crazy ideas like women-kids are subservient, not sending kids to commie schools, no medicines-vaccines, martyrdom..."Evangelicals" and "anabaptists", basically nutcases walking around with the holy book and yelling at everyone. Their numbers were very small - the usual assortment of dozen crazies. Some did it so they could easily emigrate, they would play the "I am a crazy Jesus-freak!" card to get a visa to Canada.

    It doesn't bother me, to each his own, but most societies in Europe tried to control it - Germany still does, no "Jehovah Witnesses" allowed. Or deranged Mormons who would harass people in their homes with the "word from god". They would get fines, the more fanatical ones would suffer at work - as they do in the West even today.

    The regular Churches were completely fine, people went or not. Commies usually through the back door, you would be surprised how many party members went to Church ("special occasions", "family made me do it..")...

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950's were charged for their Nazi collaboration. If they didn't collaborate or tried to hide collaborators in monasteries they were fine. WW2 Nazi-regimes were propped up by the Church. Many priests were government ministers and fanatical monks with Nazi SS chased resistors and "Jews" in the hills. It was a just retribution, the same happened in France, Belgium, Italy...

    Why do you lie about "Christian persecution" by quoting obviously one-sided ideological drivel?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Why do you lie about “Christian persecution” by quoting obviously one-sided ideological drivel?

    Simple answer: pretty much everything this AP personage posts is either a lie or a snippet of truth twisted beyond recognition.

    Two explanations are possible: a) the personage is a liar; b) the personage is stupid enough to sincerely believe those lies.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...AP personage posts is either a lie or a snippet of truth twisted beyond recognition.
     
    Yeah, it is sad - AP's obsessive cherry-picking and avoiding the context. He is not stupid. Maybe he is too ideological or lacks critical thinking skills. It leads nowhere - lying by omission is a dead-end, not seeing reality clearly leads to a defeat

    The Ukie tragic collapse is caused by their excessive belief in their own propaganda. It ends in a disaster as we see today. Snippets of truth are often the same as lies...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Simple answer: pretty much everything this AP personage posts is either a lie
     
    Really? Which one, specifically? I still remember how you claimed that Kiev did not build a single metro station after the USSR collapsed. Or how you insisted that no US State had an official language (the official language in the state where you live, Tennessee, has been declared to be English). These are false claims by you that are easily verifiable.
  422. @Mikhail
    @Sean

    Relative to the West, it's now advancing at a better rate despite the sanctions designed to punish it which have backfired.

    Putin surely didn't retard Russia's progress, contrary to such retarded opinion; thereby explaining his popularity in Russia and disdain which neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters have for him.

    Replies: @Sean, @Mr. Hack, @Wielgus

    Relative to the West, it’s now advancing at a better rate despite the sanctions designed to punish it which have backfired.

    Putin surely didn’t retard Russia’s progress, contrary to such retarded opinion; thereby explaining his popularity in Russia and disdain which neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters have for him.

    • Troll: Derer
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Funny, I recall US and Nato invading Serbia, Iraq, Afghan, Libya, Syria in this century. I am confused, are they also stuck in the 19th century? Get your story straight...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  423. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.
     
    As far as the USSR was concerned, this was just as false. You could go to church, if you wanted. The Bible was freely available. I read the Bible for the first time in the USSR in Russian (to be exact, in Church Slavonic, that’s the language of Russian Orthodox Bible). KGB did not spy on people as comprehensively as FBI or CIA, but I am sure some priests were KGB informers reporting who was going to church. Only in two cases going to church could have harmed you: a) if a member of the communist party, which was officially atheist, was reported as going to church, s/he could be expelled; b) if you were a careerist and wanted to go up in the Soviet hierarchy, you had to be a member of the party, and therefore was expected not to go to church. If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm. Refusing to go to church did not buy you any favors.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson, @AP

    …some priests were informers reporting who was going to church.

    The priests mostly eagerly informed on the under-grounders, it was competition…:)

    If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm. Refusing to go to church did not buy you any favors.

    I agree, it was a non-event. But party members often went to church and said “I had to go with my family, my mom is religious…“, nobody cared about Christmas or Easter mass, it was a cultural event, great music…Even party members married in church because it was considered more traditional.

    Baptism was trickier. In big cities people would often take their babies to villages they came from for baptism…closer to grandparents and they were trying to be less ostentatious. The nonsense Westies are taught that “Christianity” was suppressed and believers suffered is mostly propaganda. And they repeat it like trained monkeys even after shown the reality.

  424. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.
     
    As far as the USSR was concerned, this was just as false. You could go to church, if you wanted. The Bible was freely available. I read the Bible for the first time in the USSR in Russian (to be exact, in Church Slavonic, that’s the language of Russian Orthodox Bible). KGB did not spy on people as comprehensively as FBI or CIA, but I am sure some priests were KGB informers reporting who was going to church. Only in two cases going to church could have harmed you: a) if a member of the communist party, which was officially atheist, was reported as going to church, s/he could be expelled; b) if you were a careerist and wanted to go up in the Soviet hierarchy, you had to be a member of the party, and therefore was expected not to go to church. If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm. Refusing to go to church did not buy you any favors.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson, @AP

    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.

    As far as the USSR was concerned, this was just as false. You could go to church, if you wanted. The Bible was freely available.

    So you believe people who smuggled in Bibles were either lying or aggrandizing themselves?

    It was illegal to bring Bibles into the USSR. Are you going to deny that?

    The Soviets were trying to control the supply.

    Maybe spend 5 minutes using Google instead of decreeing something as Western propaganda just because you and Beckow think it sounds good.

    While it was legal to own a Bible in the Soviet Union, you could not bring Bibles into the country, nor distribute Bibles, nor even lead a group Bible study.
    https://www.museumofthebible.org/magazine/impact/an-unlikely-story

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    Your "source" are ideological Bible pushers still bitter because they couldn't export truck-loads of bibles. Countries have a right to control what is imported - US does it all the time from pharmacy drugs to undesirable videos. We had our own bibles.

    Answer the question: would US allow an obviously deranged religious group from Siberia export its "material" and try to convert people en masse? As the Mormons or Baptists do? Would Germany?


    people who smuggled in Bibles were either lying or aggrandizing themselves?
     
    Both. Americans are famous aggrandizers - you make up things to be relevant and heroic. Cheap bluster.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  425. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Why do you lie about “Christian persecution” by quoting obviously one-sided ideological drivel?
     
    Simple answer: pretty much everything this AP personage posts is either a lie or a snippet of truth twisted beyond recognition.

    Two explanations are possible: a) the personage is a liar; b) the personage is stupid enough to sincerely believe those lies.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

    …AP personage posts is either a lie or a snippet of truth twisted beyond recognition.

    Yeah, it is sad – AP’s obsessive cherry-picking and avoiding the context. He is not stupid. Maybe he is too ideological or lacks critical thinking skills. It leads nowhere – lying by omission is a dead-end, not seeing reality clearly leads to a defeat

    The Ukie tragic collapse is caused by their excessive belief in their own propaganda. It ends in a disaster as we see today. Snippets of truth are often the same as lies…

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    AP’s obsessive cherry-picking and avoiding the context. He is not stupid.
     
    I also have an impression that it’s not stupidity, but a mental disorder (you politely call it “ideological”). It’s the same with schizophrenics: they are often smart and witty, until you hit the point where the screw is loose. AP’s loose screw is Ukraine.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  426. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN


    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.
     
    As far as the USSR was concerned, this was just as false. You could go to church, if you wanted. The Bible was freely available.

    So you believe people who smuggled in Bibles were either lying or aggrandizing themselves?

    It was illegal to bring Bibles into the USSR. Are you going to deny that?

    The Soviets were trying to control the supply.

    Maybe spend 5 minutes using Google instead of decreeing something as Western propaganda just because you and Beckow think it sounds good.

    While it was legal to own a Bible in the Soviet Union, you could not bring Bibles into the country, nor distribute Bibles, nor even lead a group Bible study.
    https://www.museumofthebible.org/magazine/impact/an-unlikely-story

    Replies: @Beckow

    Your “source” are ideological Bible pushers still bitter because they couldn’t export truck-loads of bibles. Countries have a right to control what is imported – US does it all the time from pharmacy drugs to undesirable videos. We had our own bibles.

    Answer the question: would US allow an obviously deranged religious group from Siberia export its “material” and try to convert people en masse? As the Mormons or Baptists do? Would Germany?

    people who smuggled in Bibles were either lying or aggrandizing themselves?

    Both. Americans are famous aggrandizers – you make up things to be relevant and heroic. Cheap bluster.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Your “source” are ideological Bible pushers still bitter because they couldn’t export truck-loads of bibles. Countries have a right to control what is imported – US does it all the time from pharmacy drugs to undesirable videos.

    So you acknowledge that they did in fact smuggle Bibles?

    Answer the question: would US allow an obviously deranged religious group from Siberia export its “material” and try to convert people en masse? As the Mormons or Baptists do? Would Germany?

    I didn't give my opinion on the policy. If you think Baptist groups are deranged for wanting to bring in Bibles then feel free to make that argument.

    I'm pointing out that the statements you and AnonTN made are factually incorrect. It was not a fabrication as part of a propaganda campaign. Bibles were indeed smuggled by church groups into the USSR. They were also smuggled into China and other Communist states.

    Replies: @Beckow

  427. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Why do you lie about “Christian persecution” by quoting obviously one-sided ideological drivel?
     
    Simple answer: pretty much everything this AP personage posts is either a lie or a snippet of truth twisted beyond recognition.

    Two explanations are possible: a) the personage is a liar; b) the personage is stupid enough to sincerely believe those lies.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

    Simple answer: pretty much everything this AP personage posts is either a lie

    Really? Which one, specifically? I still remember how you claimed that Kiev did not build a single metro station after the USSR collapsed. Or how you insisted that no US State had an official language (the official language in the state where you live, Tennessee, has been declared to be English). These are false claims by you that are easily verifiable.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  428. @Mikhail
    @Sean

    Relative to the West, it's now advancing at a better rate despite the sanctions designed to punish it which have backfired.

    Putin surely didn't retard Russia's progress, contrary to such retarded opinion; thereby explaining his popularity in Russia and disdain which neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters have for him.

    Replies: @Sean, @Mr. Hack, @Wielgus

    The ideal ruler of Russia from the West’s point of view is someone like Boris Yeltsin. The opinion that he was straight-up in the pay of Western governments/intelligence agencies is widespread in Russia.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Wielgus

    Re: Yeltsin

    His opposition to NATO expansion the 1999 NATO aggression and made him problematical as well.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Wielgus


    The ideal ruler of Russia from the West’s point of view is someone like Boris Yeltsin. The opinion that he was straight-up in the pay of Western governments/intelligence agencies is widespread in Russia.
     
    I don’t think he was an asset of any Western intelligence agency. I think there are three reasons he was loved by the West:
    1. He was fairly dumb (like the majority of communist party big shots).
    2. He was an alcoholic, so whatever wits he had were always clouded by drink.
    3. Many members of his family were corrupt to the core, and he was not inclined to confront any of them for the sake of the country.

    I guess the fact that he had no respect for the law and turned out to be a brutal dictator (was impeached by the parliament in 1993, but did not follow the constitution, but staged a coup instead: ordered the shelling and storming of parliament, murdered many people in Moscow) further endeared him to the West: like dissolves like, as alchemists used to say.

  429. This is a good cat vs. deer vid:

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  430. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Relative to the West, it’s now advancing at a better rate despite the sanctions designed to punish it which have backfired.
     
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4PqDdY2XKv8/Wq-pkUij9-I/AAAAAAAAvLI/uW11fhoHpr0eAXlVj2B11S7MtJ9YGEhFQCLcBGAs/s1600/russia-vladimir-putin-cartoon.jpg

    Putin surely didn’t retard Russia’s progress, contrary to such retarded opinion; thereby explaining his popularity in Russia and disdain which neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters have for him.
     
    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/M79Z6YMaSqGJycZDrefF7-1200-80.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow

    Funny, I recall US and Nato invading Serbia, Iraq, Afghan, Libya, Syria in this century. I am confused, are they also stuck in the 19th century? Get your story straight…

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    You're right, I don't know what the US and NATO were looking for in those countries, whereas its crystal clear that Russia is on a legitimate quest to rid the world of the last bastion of Nazis located within Ukraine. Although, like you I'm a little bit confused too, why is Russia willfully destroying so many civilian targets, especially in Russian speaking Eastern and Southern Ukraine?

    https://images.thewest.com.au/publication/C-5836301/1119ecd8cb79a306060587bd39cce7841e8366e6-16x9-x0y0w640h360.jpg?imwidth=1200
    Could it be true that Hitler had created a secret bunker in Ukraine, and Putler is trying to locate it??...

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Derer

  431. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    ...underground Church...many individuals were harassed by the Communist authorities, expelled from schools or forced to accept menial jobs, even if educated
     
    The underground church was not the Church, but small groups of fanatics with crazy ideas like women-kids are subservient, not sending kids to commie schools, no medicines-vaccines, martyrdom..."Evangelicals" and "anabaptists", basically nutcases walking around with the holy book and yelling at everyone. Their numbers were very small - the usual assortment of dozen crazies. Some did it so they could easily emigrate, they would play the "I am a crazy Jesus-freak!" card to get a visa to Canada.

    It doesn't bother me, to each his own, but most societies in Europe tried to control it - Germany still does, no "Jehovah Witnesses" allowed. Or deranged Mormons who would harass people in their homes with the "word from god". They would get fines, the more fanatical ones would suffer at work - as they do in the West even today.

    The regular Churches were completely fine, people went or not. Commies usually through the back door, you would be surprised how many party members went to Church ("special occasions", "family made me do it..")...

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950's were charged for their Nazi collaboration. If they didn't collaborate or tried to hide collaborators in monasteries they were fine. WW2 Nazi-regimes were propped up by the Church. Many priests were government ministers and fanatical monks with Nazi SS chased resistors and "Jews" in the hills. It was a just retribution, the same happened in France, Belgium, Italy...

    Why do you lie about "Christian persecution" by quoting obviously one-sided ideological drivel?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    The underground church was not the Church, but small groups of fanatics with crazy ideas like women-kids are subservient, not sending kids to commie schools, no medicines-vaccines, martyrdom…”Evangelicals” and “anabaptists

    The article I posted was specifically about the Catholic Church, dummy.

    Your bad socialist school left you ignorant about your own country.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    Official and underground: the survival strategy of the Catholic Church in Communist Czechoslovakia

    “ Despite repression, the Church strived to maintain official operation in Czechoslovakia. Simultaneously, it developed an underground structure that allowed for uncompromised religious life… The strategy chosen by the Catholic Church in Czechoslovakia was specific, compared to other European communist countries, as the Church simultaneously operated both legally and illegally; again, there is a parallel with the current situation of the Christian churches in China”

    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.

    You lie as usual Beckow, claiming it was just sectarian weirdos.

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality :

    “ The most violent measures targeted the clergy.Footnote27 Most of the bishops were interned, and the control over dioceses was given to vicars capitular and vicars general, previously appointed with the consent of (and often pressure from) the Communist officials. The state also appointed its representatives to oversee the operations of bishops’ offices. Bishops and many priests were sentenced in show trials and often imprisoned in labor camps.Footnote28 Monasteries and religious congregations were dismantled, and their members, both men and women, were interned in selected monasteries that also operated as labor camps. About one-fifth of the members of religious orders were sentenced to prison. The operation of religious orders was illegal until the of end of the communist era.”

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality:...
     

    Almost all were real: Catholic Church collaborated with the Nazis (clero-fascism) because they hated seculars and communists. Many priests directly assisted Nazis. When you have mass trials after a horrible tragedy like WW2 there are always innocents. It inevitably happens - the records are not clear or destroyed, the accused help themselves by implicating others. It also happened in France, Italy. Many were charged for hiding the guilty or lying about it - monks stick together. Isn't that what you call the "conspiracy racketeering" charges? One thing happens and 20 people are charged in US because maybe they knew about it. Same with the priests after WW2. Most were guilty.

    Monasteries were a hot-bed of Nazi collaboration - so the post-WW2 government banned them. It was an overkill, but nothing unusual. Religious orders were openly run from abroad by hostile nations - why would any country allow that? Look at the hysteria in the West about "Trump is a Russian asset" and many other examples. You just want your side to be exempted.


    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.
     
    Where? When? It looks like a total lie - in all of Czechoslovakia there were about a dozen documented "spiritual Catholics" who didn't have a permission to be priests: a few individual cases among thousand of priests. Same in Poland or Hungary.

    ... specifically about the Catholic Church
     
    Catholics had and their own non-standard "underground" charismatic movement - you don't think Catholics can go nuts and start speaking in tongues and scream halleluja? They were not part of the Catholic Church that was operating normally. Religious crazies are crazies no matter what denomination they claim.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    , @Derer
    @AP

    Get lost with your illiterate hogwash. Czechs are not even Catholics (11 %), the majority of population around 34.5% claim no religion (highest in Europe) and further 44.7% are undeclared. On the other hand Slovakia is land of Catholics similar to Hungary or Poland.


    Bishops and many priests were sentenced in show trials and often imprisoned in labor camps.
     
    That is true. When Stalin insisted on cleansing Communist party in Czechoslovakia in the early 50's (Slansky process) 14 members of the party leadership were "charged" and executed from that 12 were Jewish. There is the answer for vicious campaign against Catholics in post-war Slovakia.

    Replies: @AP

  432. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    This nonsense that “Church was banned” or that “people had to smuggle in Bibles” is a very stupid Westie propaganda.
     
    As far as the USSR was concerned, this was just as false. You could go to church, if you wanted. The Bible was freely available. I read the Bible for the first time in the USSR in Russian (to be exact, in Church Slavonic, that’s the language of Russian Orthodox Bible). KGB did not spy on people as comprehensively as FBI or CIA, but I am sure some priests were KGB informers reporting who was going to church. Only in two cases going to church could have harmed you: a) if a member of the communist party, which was officially atheist, was reported as going to church, s/he could be expelled; b) if you were a careerist and wanted to go up in the Soviet hierarchy, you had to be a member of the party, and therefore was expected not to go to church. If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm. Refusing to go to church did not buy you any favors.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson, @AP

    Only in two cases going to church could have harmed you: a) if a member of the communist party, which was officially atheist, was reported as going to church, s/he could be expelled; b) if you were a careerist and wanted to go up in the Soviet hierarchy, you had to be a member of the party, and therefore was expected not to go to church. If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm

    In other words, going to church barred you from having a management position in the USSR (being a “careerist.”)

    It’s of course much lighter persecution than being executed or imprisoned, but it is still persecution.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Who had it worse in the USSR: Churchgoers or Jews? I mean in the late, post-Stalin USSR?

  433. @AP
    @Beckow


    The underground church was not the Church, but small groups of fanatics with crazy ideas like women-kids are subservient, not sending kids to commie schools, no medicines-vaccines, martyrdom…”Evangelicals” and “anabaptists
     
    The article I posted was specifically about the Catholic Church, dummy.

    Your bad socialist school left you ignorant about your own country.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    Official and underground: the survival strategy of the Catholic Church in Communist Czechoslovakia

    “ Despite repression, the Church strived to maintain official operation in Czechoslovakia. Simultaneously, it developed an underground structure that allowed for uncompromised religious life… The strategy chosen by the Catholic Church in Czechoslovakia was specific, compared to other European communist countries, as the Church simultaneously operated both legally and illegally; again, there is a parallel with the current situation of the Christian churches in China”

    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.

    You lie as usual Beckow, claiming it was just sectarian weirdos.

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

     

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality :

    “ The most violent measures targeted the clergy.Footnote27 Most of the bishops were interned, and the control over dioceses was given to vicars capitular and vicars general, previously appointed with the consent of (and often pressure from) the Communist officials. The state also appointed its representatives to oversee the operations of bishops’ offices. Bishops and many priests were sentenced in show trials and often imprisoned in labor camps.Footnote28 Monasteries and religious congregations were dismantled, and their members, both men and women, were interned in selected monasteries that also operated as labor camps. About one-fifth of the members of religious orders were sentenced to prison. The operation of religious orders was illegal until the of end of the communist era.”

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality:…

    Almost all were real: Catholic Church collaborated with the Nazis (clero-fascism) because they hated seculars and communists. Many priests directly assisted Nazis. When you have mass trials after a horrible tragedy like WW2 there are always innocents. It inevitably happens – the records are not clear or destroyed, the accused help themselves by implicating others. It also happened in France, Italy. Many were charged for hiding the guilty or lying about it – monks stick together. Isn’t that what you call the “conspiracy racketeering” charges? One thing happens and 20 people are charged in US because maybe they knew about it. Same with the priests after WW2. Most were guilty.

    Monasteries were a hot-bed of Nazi collaboration – so the post-WW2 government banned them. It was an overkill, but nothing unusual. Religious orders were openly run from abroad by hostile nations – why would any country allow that? Look at the hysteria in the West about “Trump is a Russian asset” and many other examples. You just want your side to be exempted.

    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.

    Where? When? It looks like a total lie – in all of Czechoslovakia there were about a dozen documented “spiritual Catholics” who didn’t have a permission to be priests: a few individual cases among thousand of priests. Same in Poland or Hungary.

    … specifically about the Catholic Church

    Catholics had and their own non-standard “underground” charismatic movement – you don’t think Catholics can go nuts and start speaking in tongues and scream halleluja? They were not part of the Catholic Church that was operating normally. Religious crazies are crazies no matter what denomination they claim.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    Note how he trumps the Nazi allied Slovak government without mentioning the Catholic priest who headed it.

    https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/no-saint-jozef-tiso-and-the-holocaust-slovakia

    Noted without meaning to demean all Catholics.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.


    Where? When? It looks like a total lie – in all of Czechoslovakia there were about a dozen documented “spiritual Catholics” who didn’t have a permission to be priests: a few individual cases among thousand of priests
     
    Hmm..whom to believe, Beckow the random internet commenter who demonstrably writes falsehoods in almost every post, or the author of the paper I cited:

    Pavol Minarik

    Pavol Minarik is Assistant Professor at Jan E. Purkyně University in Ústí nad Labem, Czech Republic. His research focuses on economics of religion in communist and post-communist Central and Eastern Europe. He holds a PhD. in comparative analysis of law, economics and institutions from University of Turin, Italy. His work has appeared in journals such as the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, Journal of Church and State, Religion and Politics, and Review of Religious Research.

    ::::::::

    Let’s see about your false claim of “a few individual cases”:

    “ The Catholic Church began to establish the underground clerical structure as early as 1948. Initially, several bishops were ordained as ‘backups’ for active bishops who could have been prevented from properly performing their religious and administrative duties. Also, the Church in communist countries obtained special permissions, dubbed ‘Mexican faculties’, that should have helped to minister in extraordinary circumstances”

    Communist oppression generated three types of underground priests. First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish. That was the case of religious priests especially… Roughly one-quarter of the Catholic clergy ministered illegally in the 1980s.

    ::::::::::::

    But you keep lying about your country, Beckow.

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality:…


    Almost all were real
     
    Just like only a dozen or so underground priests, correct?

    And of course the monks and nuns were also mostly Nazis according to the Communists who filled your poor naive head with the nonsense justification for the massive religious persecution.

    Replies: @Beckow

  434. @Wielgus
    @Mikhail

    The ideal ruler of Russia from the West's point of view is someone like Boris Yeltsin. The opinion that he was straight-up in the pay of Western governments/intelligence agencies is widespread in Russia.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AnonfromTN

    Re: Yeltsin

    His opposition to NATO expansion the 1999 NATO aggression and made him problematical as well.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Mikhail

    He was about to leave office by then, and maybe he was belatedly starting to make amends. He never inspired the wild hatred in the West that Putin has, and some of his controversial actions like sending in the troops against the obstreperous Russian parliament in 1993 had Western support, if anything. The run-down condition of the Russian armed forces on his watch was hardly something unwelcome to them.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  435. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Funny, I recall US and Nato invading Serbia, Iraq, Afghan, Libya, Syria in this century. I am confused, are they also stuck in the 19th century? Get your story straight...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    You’re right, I don’t know what the US and NATO were looking for in those countries, whereas its crystal clear that Russia is on a legitimate quest to rid the world of the last bastion of Nazis located within Ukraine. Although, like you I’m a little bit confused too, why is Russia willfully destroying so many civilian targets, especially in Russian speaking Eastern and Southern Ukraine?


    Could it be true that Hitler had created a secret bunker in Ukraine, and Putler is trying to locate it??…

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Nothing like what the IDF is doing in Gaza as the Kiev regime itself has targeted civilian areas, without their armed enemy present. Furthermore, the Kiev regime has put their armed combatants in or near schools, hospitals and apartment buildings.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    You can ridicule Hitler all you want but he outwitted all the Jews in Germany and grabbed the power from them. They were all midgets compared to him. Having said that I do not have to like his back-stabbing racist Barbarossa.

    The Putin did the same in Russia, post-Yeltsin, outwitted all the disloyal Jewish (headed by Berezovsky, see the documentary) oligarchs and reclaimed the Russian energy industry from their pillaging and their serving the pathological enemy across the ocean.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  436. @John Johnson
    Putin's Jewish Dr. No seems really upset:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X19G6tPfzlc

    https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w1280/4oqS4Rmb2eMS3IaUQWLVHk0mJZV.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC

    That is a good clip which has a clear purpose. His goal is to make it clear that the military and economic pressure being applied to Russia by the USA and the West carries real risks with serious consequences. The current Western leadership has come of age after the Cold War and is too uninformed or incompetent to understand the risks of their foolish actions. These moves include NATO expansion, government coups, dropping nuclear arms control treaties and placing missile bases in Eastern Europe. Most citizens under the influence of the mainstream media are completely misled on these topics, so the purpose of this Solovyov rant is to give them a clue and elevate this discussion around the world. In clips like this, the intended audience is the West.

    The host has to walk a fine line. If he comes across as too crazy that may be seen in the West as a justification for pressuring Russia. If he (Russia) comes off as too mild he is simply ignored. At this point in the process Russia is better off saber rattling loudly to wake up any remaining sensible people in the West. Unfortunately, gung-ho low watt bulbs in the military are very sensitive to this sort of publicity and are more likely to make a catastrophic mistake once they get all worked up. We know from the various purges in the military after 1991 there are very few “steely-eyed missile men” left in the US armed forces. I think the new term is “steely-eyed missile trannies” but that really doesn’t have the same ring to it.

  437. @Beckow
    @AP


    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality:...
     

    Almost all were real: Catholic Church collaborated with the Nazis (clero-fascism) because they hated seculars and communists. Many priests directly assisted Nazis. When you have mass trials after a horrible tragedy like WW2 there are always innocents. It inevitably happens - the records are not clear or destroyed, the accused help themselves by implicating others. It also happened in France, Italy. Many were charged for hiding the guilty or lying about it - monks stick together. Isn't that what you call the "conspiracy racketeering" charges? One thing happens and 20 people are charged in US because maybe they knew about it. Same with the priests after WW2. Most were guilty.

    Monasteries were a hot-bed of Nazi collaboration - so the post-WW2 government banned them. It was an overkill, but nothing unusual. Religious orders were openly run from abroad by hostile nations - why would any country allow that? Look at the hysteria in the West about "Trump is a Russian asset" and many other examples. You just want your side to be exempted.


    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.
     
    Where? When? It looks like a total lie - in all of Czechoslovakia there were about a dozen documented "spiritual Catholics" who didn't have a permission to be priests: a few individual cases among thousand of priests. Same in Poland or Hungary.

    ... specifically about the Catholic Church
     
    Catholics had and their own non-standard "underground" charismatic movement - you don't think Catholics can go nuts and start speaking in tongues and scream halleluja? They were not part of the Catholic Church that was operating normally. Religious crazies are crazies no matter what denomination they claim.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    Note how he trumps the Nazi allied Slovak government without mentioning the Catholic priest who headed it.

    https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/no-saint-jozef-tiso-and-the-holocaust-slovakia

    Noted without meaning to demean all Catholics.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikhail

    AP's modus operandi is to only see one side and when confronted to run away. Clero-fascists were the main Nazi collaborators who committed horrible crimes. After WW2 they found Jesus again and wanted all to be forgotten. Today they selectively recall only what was done to them as retribution.

    AP is a hopeless ideologue..

    Replies: @Mikhail

  438. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    You're right, I don't know what the US and NATO were looking for in those countries, whereas its crystal clear that Russia is on a legitimate quest to rid the world of the last bastion of Nazis located within Ukraine. Although, like you I'm a little bit confused too, why is Russia willfully destroying so many civilian targets, especially in Russian speaking Eastern and Southern Ukraine?

    https://images.thewest.com.au/publication/C-5836301/1119ecd8cb79a306060587bd39cce7841e8366e6-16x9-x0y0w640h360.jpg?imwidth=1200
    Could it be true that Hitler had created a secret bunker in Ukraine, and Putler is trying to locate it??...

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Derer

    Nothing like what the IDF is doing in Gaza as the Kiev regime itself has targeted civilian areas, without their armed enemy present. Furthermore, the Kiev regime has put their armed combatants in or near schools, hospitals and apartment buildings.

    • Disagree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    But this still doesn't explain why so many Russian speaking Ukrainians are being targeted by the guy who was supposed to save them? No wonder nobody in Ukraine ever welcomed Russian soldiers as heroes and liberators. No salt and bread, no roses. What's really going on here?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  439. @Mikhail
    @Wielgus

    Re: Yeltsin

    His opposition to NATO expansion the 1999 NATO aggression and made him problematical as well.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    He was about to leave office by then, and maybe he was belatedly starting to make amends. He never inspired the wild hatred in the West that Putin has, and some of his controversial actions like sending in the troops against the obstreperous Russian parliament in 1993 had Western support, if anything. The run-down condition of the Russian armed forces on his watch was hardly something unwelcome to them.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Wielgus

    Putin didn't hate the West. Quite the opposite, Like many Russians, he understandably became disappointed with the West. Specifically, the predominating Western elites.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  440. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...AP personage posts is either a lie or a snippet of truth twisted beyond recognition.
     
    Yeah, it is sad - AP's obsessive cherry-picking and avoiding the context. He is not stupid. Maybe he is too ideological or lacks critical thinking skills. It leads nowhere - lying by omission is a dead-end, not seeing reality clearly leads to a defeat

    The Ukie tragic collapse is caused by their excessive belief in their own propaganda. It ends in a disaster as we see today. Snippets of truth are often the same as lies...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    AP’s obsessive cherry-picking and avoiding the context. He is not stupid.

    I also have an impression that it’s not stupidity, but a mental disorder (you politely call it “ideological”). It’s the same with schizophrenics: they are often smart and witty, until you hit the point where the screw is loose. AP’s loose screw is Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Mining old comments is internet bulletin board depravity. That's like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

  441. Russel “Texas” Bently singing about how much he loves his new home in Novorossiya.

    Well that was before he was buttraped by Russian soldiers.

    Talk about a confused White man. Reminds me of confused Whites that they think are “down with Blacks” and then end up killed over a $50 drug deal.

    I wonder what he thought about Putin breaking his word on making DPR and LPR independent Republics.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I hope they are paying you. If not, you need to get a life.

  442. @Wielgus
    @Mikhail

    The ideal ruler of Russia from the West's point of view is someone like Boris Yeltsin. The opinion that he was straight-up in the pay of Western governments/intelligence agencies is widespread in Russia.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AnonfromTN

    The ideal ruler of Russia from the West’s point of view is someone like Boris Yeltsin. The opinion that he was straight-up in the pay of Western governments/intelligence agencies is widespread in Russia.

    I don’t think he was an asset of any Western intelligence agency. I think there are three reasons he was loved by the West:
    1. He was fairly dumb (like the majority of communist party big shots).
    2. He was an alcoholic, so whatever wits he had were always clouded by drink.
    3. Many members of his family were corrupt to the core, and he was not inclined to confront any of them for the sake of the country.

    I guess the fact that he had no respect for the law and turned out to be a brutal dictator (was impeached by the parliament in 1993, but did not follow the constitution, but staged a coup instead: ordered the shelling and storming of parliament, murdered many people in Moscow) further endeared him to the West: like dissolves like, as alchemists used to say.

    • Agree: Derer
  443. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Nothing like what the IDF is doing in Gaza as the Kiev regime itself has targeted civilian areas, without their armed enemy present. Furthermore, the Kiev regime has put their armed combatants in or near schools, hospitals and apartment buildings.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    But this still doesn’t explain why so many Russian speaking Ukrainians are being targeted by the guy who was supposed to save them? No wonder nobody in Ukraine ever welcomed Russian soldiers as heroes and liberators. No salt and bread, no roses. What’s really going on here?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    But this still doesn’t explain why so many Russian speaking Ukrainians are being targeted by the guy who was supposed to save them? No wonder nobody in Ukraine ever welcomed Russian soldiers as heroes and liberators. No salt and bread, no roses. What’s really going on here?
     
    That guy didn't want to se this happen unlike your guy Lindsey Graham who seems to be okay with Ukrainians dying for the purpose of trying to weaken Russia.

    Kiev regime military assets situated in such areas are being targeted. On your other point, they've to worry about what happens if the Kiev regime sees pro-Russian sentiment, in addition to maybe not feeling 100% secure about whether Russia will stay put. Nonetheless, Russia has been getting considerable support like in Mariupol on account of what the Kiev regime did there. Vladimir Saldo was elected three times as Kherson mayor before the SMO. In contrast, the Kiev regime installed an unelected mayor of Mariupol.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  444. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality:...
     

    Almost all were real: Catholic Church collaborated with the Nazis (clero-fascism) because they hated seculars and communists. Many priests directly assisted Nazis. When you have mass trials after a horrible tragedy like WW2 there are always innocents. It inevitably happens - the records are not clear or destroyed, the accused help themselves by implicating others. It also happened in France, Italy. Many were charged for hiding the guilty or lying about it - monks stick together. Isn't that what you call the "conspiracy racketeering" charges? One thing happens and 20 people are charged in US because maybe they knew about it. Same with the priests after WW2. Most were guilty.

    Monasteries were a hot-bed of Nazi collaboration - so the post-WW2 government banned them. It was an overkill, but nothing unusual. Religious orders were openly run from abroad by hostile nations - why would any country allow that? Look at the hysteria in the West about "Trump is a Russian asset" and many other examples. You just want your side to be exempted.


    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.
     
    Where? When? It looks like a total lie - in all of Czechoslovakia there were about a dozen documented "spiritual Catholics" who didn't have a permission to be priests: a few individual cases among thousand of priests. Same in Poland or Hungary.

    ... specifically about the Catholic Church
     
    Catholics had and their own non-standard "underground" charismatic movement - you don't think Catholics can go nuts and start speaking in tongues and scream halleluja? They were not part of the Catholic Church that was operating normally. Religious crazies are crazies no matter what denomination they claim.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.

    Where? When? It looks like a total lie – in all of Czechoslovakia there were about a dozen documented “spiritual Catholics” who didn’t have a permission to be priests: a few individual cases among thousand of priests

    Hmm..whom to believe, Beckow the random internet commenter who demonstrably writes falsehoods in almost every post, or the author of the paper I cited:

    Pavol Minarik

    Pavol Minarik is Assistant Professor at Jan E. Purkyně University in Ústí nad Labem, Czech Republic. His research focuses on economics of religion in communist and post-communist Central and Eastern Europe. He holds a PhD. in comparative analysis of law, economics and institutions from University of Turin, Italy. His work has appeared in journals such as the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, Journal of Church and State, Religion and Politics, and Review of Religious Research.

    ::::::::

    Let’s see about your false claim of “a few individual cases”:

    “ The Catholic Church began to establish the underground clerical structure as early as 1948. Initially, several bishops were ordained as ‘backups’ for active bishops who could have been prevented from properly performing their religious and administrative duties. Also, the Church in communist countries obtained special permissions, dubbed ‘Mexican faculties’, that should have helped to minister in extraordinary circumstances”

    Communist oppression generated three types of underground priests. First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish. That was the case of religious priests especially… Roughly one-quarter of the Catholic clergy ministered illegally in the 1980s.

    ::::::::::::

    But you keep lying about your country, Beckow.

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality:…

    Almost all were real

    Just like only a dozen or so underground priests, correct?

    And of course the monks and nuns were also mostly Nazis according to the Communists who filled your poor naive head with the nonsense justification for the massive religious persecution.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    The Usti University? No kidding, it is a small industrial shi..hole, do you have any idea where it is and how small it is? That "Minarik" guy is about as respectable as someone from a random Podunk University in Upper Volta. Or Kingsman, Arizona.

    I don't know him but he obviously lies for the cause of "oppressed church". Why do you misrepresent what he says: he counts any malcontent and alternative wannabe as a priest. By that standard there are thousands of underground priests in the US big cities mumbling about Jesus on street corners. Many are homeless or in jail - what a f...ing oppression of the "church" you have there?

    You got caught making up things and as always you escape into minutia and lies. "Professor Minarik", wow...sounds like a bad Hollywood flick about a hochstapler tricking old ladies out of inheritance.

    Replies: @AP

  445. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    AP’s obsessive cherry-picking and avoiding the context. He is not stupid.
     
    I also have an impression that it’s not stupidity, but a mental disorder (you politely call it “ideological”). It’s the same with schizophrenics: they are often smart and witty, until you hit the point where the screw is loose. AP’s loose screw is Ukraine.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Mining old comments is internet bulletin board depravity. That’s like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    That’s like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    What amazes me is how quickly they can do it. Like it was yesterday but they have that card ready.

    It's like a left jab that confuses men expecting a solid right.

    Wait.....what....you are bringing that up.....what? The fucking dinner incident again? During COVID?

    I fortunately don't fight with my wife very often but I sure know that play.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Mining old comments is internet bulletin board depravity.
     
    No doubt. But this should be addressed to AP. That’s what the AP personage is repeatedly doing. Makes me feel flattered: someone reads my comments intently enough to remember things I said ages ago. Wow!

    Replies: @AP

  446. Looks like Blinken got no joy in China:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-68905475

    US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has warned Washington will act if China does not stop supplying Russia with items used in its assault on Ukraine.

    Speaking to the BBC in Beijing, the US’s top diplomat said he had made clear to his counterparts they were “helping fuel the biggest threat” to European security since the Cold War.

    He did not say what measures the US was prepared to take.

    But Mr Blinken was also keen to stress progress had been made in some areas.

    He praised Beijing for making efforts in stopping supplies of the drug fentanyl reaching the US.

    China remains the principal source of fentanyl for the US, which the White House has said is causing a public health crisis across the country.

    Mr Blinken also stressed he felt Beijing can play a “constructive” role in the Middle East, pointing towards China using “its relationship with Iran to urge” against further escalation in its confrontation with Israel.

    The visit – the second in 10 months made by Mr Blinken – forms part of a significant increase in dialogue and diplomacy between these rival powers as they attempt to put relations on an even keel after a period of immense tension last year.

    Relations between Washington and Beijing have been strained by China’s claims over Taiwan and the South China Sea, and US export bans on advanced tech. They were further damaged by a row over a spy balloon last February.

    In recent days, the US passed a law that would force Chinese-owned TikTok to sell the hugely popular video app or be banned in America – something Mr Blinken earlier revealed had not come up in his meeting with China’s President Xi Jinping.

    Mr Xi – who met Mr Blinken on Friday afternoon in Beijing’s Great Hall of the People – agreed the two sides had “made some positive progress” since he met his US counterpart, Joe Biden, in November.

    He added the countries should “be partners, not rivals”, saying that if the US took “a positive view of China’s development”, relations could “truly stabilise, get better and move forward”.

    Mr Blinken told the BBC that one of the key routes for “better relations” between China and both the US and Europe would be for Beijing “or some of its enterprises” to stop providing “critical components” that help Russia make more munitions. The components include items such as “machine tools, micro-electronics, and optics”.

    “It’s helping Russia perpetuate its aggression against Ukraine, but it’s also creating a growing threat to Europe because of Russia’s aggression,” he explained, adding it was “helping to fuel the biggest threat to [Europe’s] insecurity since the end of the Cold War”.

    “We’ve taken action already against Chinese entities that are engaged in this,” he said. “And what I make clear today is that if China won’t act, we will.”

    Mr Blinken – who hinted at sanctions as a possible route – was keen to stress that China was not directly supplying Russia with weapons.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @YetAnotherAnon


    US’s top diplomat (Blinken) said he had made clear to his counterparts they were “helping fuel the biggest threat” to European security since the Cold War.
     
    This moron lives in the US or perhaps in Israel too, but his main concern is European security. Yes, his main concern is selling arms (only functioning US industry) to stupid European weaklings. Russia pulled its army from Europe and abandoned Warsaw Pact and now would try to invade - Washington pathetic deceit.

    Beijing can play a “constructive” role in the Middle East, pointing towards China using “its relationship with Iran to urge” against further escalation
     
    Again, this moron does not know that for the escalation is responsible Israel and its milking cow the US taxpayers, easily deceived by the US national interest farce.
  447. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    Your "source" are ideological Bible pushers still bitter because they couldn't export truck-loads of bibles. Countries have a right to control what is imported - US does it all the time from pharmacy drugs to undesirable videos. We had our own bibles.

    Answer the question: would US allow an obviously deranged religious group from Siberia export its "material" and try to convert people en masse? As the Mormons or Baptists do? Would Germany?


    people who smuggled in Bibles were either lying or aggrandizing themselves?
     
    Both. Americans are famous aggrandizers - you make up things to be relevant and heroic. Cheap bluster.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Your “source” are ideological Bible pushers still bitter because they couldn’t export truck-loads of bibles. Countries have a right to control what is imported – US does it all the time from pharmacy drugs to undesirable videos.

    So you acknowledge that they did in fact smuggle Bibles?

    Answer the question: would US allow an obviously deranged religious group from Siberia export its “material” and try to convert people en masse? As the Mormons or Baptists do? Would Germany?

    I didn’t give my opinion on the policy. If you think Baptist groups are deranged for wanting to bring in Bibles then feel free to make that argument.

    I’m pointing out that the statements you and AnonTN made are factually incorrect. It was not a fabrication as part of a propaganda campaign. Bibles were indeed smuggled by church groups into the USSR. They were also smuggled into China and other Communist states.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Bibles were indeed smuggled by church groups into the USSR.
     
    By that logic so was underwear and socks. Don't you see how stupid you are? Smuggling what is already there to aggrandize yourself and to spin propaganda stories.

    ...If you think Baptist groups are deranged..
     
    It is not what I think - they are, and so are Pentecostals, Jehovas, Moonies, charismatic Catholics, Mormons...all provincial backward cults trying to convert dumb people. No country is required to allow in your crazies, keep them at home. US also doesn't allow crazy Russian cults to spread, why should Russia be better?

    If you don't have an opinion on their derangement you don't know much about your country. Or you an intellectual coward.

  448. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    You're right, I don't know what the US and NATO were looking for in those countries, whereas its crystal clear that Russia is on a legitimate quest to rid the world of the last bastion of Nazis located within Ukraine. Although, like you I'm a little bit confused too, why is Russia willfully destroying so many civilian targets, especially in Russian speaking Eastern and Southern Ukraine?

    https://images.thewest.com.au/publication/C-5836301/1119ecd8cb79a306060587bd39cce7841e8366e6-16x9-x0y0w640h360.jpg?imwidth=1200
    Could it be true that Hitler had created a secret bunker in Ukraine, and Putler is trying to locate it??...

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Derer

    You can ridicule Hitler all you want but he outwitted all the Jews in Germany and grabbed the power from them. They were all midgets compared to him. Having said that I do not have to like his back-stabbing racist Barbarossa.

    The Putin did the same in Russia, post-Yeltsin, outwitted all the disloyal Jewish (headed by Berezovsky, see the documentary) oligarchs and reclaimed the Russian energy industry from their pillaging and their serving the pathological enemy across the ocean.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    You can ridicule Hitler all you want but he outwitted all the Jews in Germany and grabbed the power from them.

    He did not outwit all the Jews in Germany.

    The smart and wealthy ones left for Britain and the US. Most of the Jewish Communists fled to the USSR. In fact it was in Ukraine where the heavily Jewish NKVD killed their prisoners before fleeing to Russia (1941 NKVD prison massacre).

    Which means the type of Jew that he hated simply setup shop in another country.

    Hitler mostly killed Polish and Hungarian shopkeeps, petty traders, cobblers, etc. Oh and women and children. Nothing sticks it to wealthy Jews like gunning down some village Jew in Ukraine who doesn't have a pot to piss in. As a reminder all the urban Ukrainian Jews were from a genius Tsar who actually tried to de-urbanize Jews by locking them into urban areas. Another genius Russian Tsar of history. That genius move is in fact tied to the waves of Jews that came to the US.

    Having said that I do not have to like his back-stabbing racist Barbarossa.

    So gunning down random Slavs is wrong and racist but some small village Jew is fair game? How many of those Hungarian Jews owned media companies or sold pornography?

    What Hitler did was make it a taboo to criticize Jewish influence. The West also decided that human genetics are not to be studied honestly and all the eugenics research was shut down. California was actually a leader in eugenics until the failed water painter came along and gave everyone in the West a case of the guilts. Hitler removed Germany's small population of Jews and now they have millions of Muslims. They also lost East Prussia. Way to go angry watercolor painter.

    The Putin did the same in Russia, post-Yeltsin, outwitted all the disloyal Jewish (headed by Berezovsky, see the documentary) oligarchs and reclaimed the Russian energy industry from their pillaging and their serving the pathological enemy across the ocean.

    What about helping his Jewish chef and petty criminal become a private billionaire warlord? The one that turned on him?

    Was that outwitting disloyal Jews?

    If you caught your military chef feeding rotten meat to your troops to save money would you help him become a billionaire and then let him have an entire front in a war?

    Stop living in some fantasy world where Putin is your next Hitler. He is close friends with Netanyahu and enjoys selling him oil. Putin could rein in Netanyahu at any time but chooses not to as he wants his oil cash.

    Putin thinks the Jews are great. Did you not see my video of his Jewish Dr. No? They are great pals. Putin likes Jews and Muslims that are as short as him.

    He does not like standing next to tall Anglos and it has been suggested that he only had good relations with Merkel because she was closer to his height.

    Putin with his Jewish Dr. No:
    https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2052731/russias-vladimir-putin-vladimir-solovyov.jpg?w=790&f=b38363a35298aa17816a26cea9852135

    Replies: @Derer

  449. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Mining old comments is internet bulletin board depravity. That's like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    That’s like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    What amazes me is how quickly they can do it. Like it was yesterday but they have that card ready.

    It’s like a left jab that confuses men expecting a solid right.

    Wait…..what….you are bringing that up…..what? The fucking dinner incident again? During COVID?

    I fortunately don’t fight with my wife very often but I sure know that play.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...That’s like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    What amazes me is how quickly they can do it. Like it was yesterday but they have that card ready.
     
    There is no winning there - they are going for a draw. It paralyzes the discussion and that's the goal. It comes to women naturally, they have an instinct for it. Otherwise they will pretend not to remember anything.
  450. Has any sociologist ever looked into these Jews/Non-Jews switched at birth? (I don’t know how many there are or what sort of biographies could even be established now.)

    [MORE]

  451. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Russia still suppresses the Baptists.
     
    They should, Baptists are idiots. I don't know what their thing is but it can't be good. They are deranged.

    If a crazy cult from Siberia boondocks came to US and tried to convert half of Utah, do you think the local Mormons would 'suppress' them? You bet they would, they would find a way. Why should other cultures put up with your retarded provincial maniacs just because they claim they are 'Christian'? You don't. It is your self-centered myopia again.

    Monitoring is in the eye of the beholder: all institutions are 'monitored'. France monitores churches and mosques, in Germany until recently only officially sanctioned religion was allowed, the commies simply took the HR function from the Vatican and run it themselves.


    Bibles were indeed smuggled into Eastern Bloc countries and the USSR
     
    Why would they smuggle something you could find in every church in large quantities on each chair? In church bookstores, libraries, and most families had 2 or 3 copies at home. People write all kinds of nonsense, Biden claimed he was arrested while visiting Nelson Mandela, maybe at the same time that he was attacked by cannibals - Americans are well known to invent crazy stories to make themselves more interesting. You guys lie a lot.

    Maybe a few idiots 'smuggled' the holy Book or the cross, but they didn't have to. There are also people who smuggle their own booze to parties and restaurants. And why would anyone bring "truckloads of Bibles", are you insane?

    I don't know about the Soviets, or Romania and Albania. But the normal socialist countries were quite open towards the church.

    Replies: @Mikel

    If a crazy cult from Siberia boondocks came to US and tried to convert half of Utah, do you think the local Mormons would ‘suppress‘ them? You bet they would

    No, they wouldn’t. That’s not in their character at all. They would take advantage of the situation and send legions of missionaries to the Siberian shamanists’ houses to try to convert them instead. They would probably succeed, through the power of sheer numbers and persistence. The most likely outcome of such an experiment would be the shamanists returning to Siberia converted to some syncretic Mormonism and building a temple there with LDS Church funds.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...send legions of missionaries to the Siberian shamanists’ houses to try to convert them instead.
     
    You are probably right, never underestimate the power of fanatic belief...:)

    It doesn't dispute that Mormons would find a way to suppress it. Imagine they would fail and the Siberians would start getting the upper hand - Provo is going 'shamanist'. Don't you think other methods would be tried? The prayer house burns down, traffic tickets and fines...if all of it failed there is always the "foreign agent" label...

    You are not that different, you are just less aware of it...:)

  452. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    You can ridicule Hitler all you want but he outwitted all the Jews in Germany and grabbed the power from them. They were all midgets compared to him. Having said that I do not have to like his back-stabbing racist Barbarossa.

    The Putin did the same in Russia, post-Yeltsin, outwitted all the disloyal Jewish (headed by Berezovsky, see the documentary) oligarchs and reclaimed the Russian energy industry from their pillaging and their serving the pathological enemy across the ocean.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    You can ridicule Hitler all you want but he outwitted all the Jews in Germany and grabbed the power from them.

    He did not outwit all the Jews in Germany.

    The smart and wealthy ones left for Britain and the US. Most of the Jewish Communists fled to the USSR. In fact it was in Ukraine where the heavily Jewish NKVD killed their prisoners before fleeing to Russia (1941 NKVD prison massacre).

    Which means the type of Jew that he hated simply setup shop in another country.

    Hitler mostly killed Polish and Hungarian shopkeeps, petty traders, cobblers, etc. Oh and women and children. Nothing sticks it to wealthy Jews like gunning down some village Jew in Ukraine who doesn’t have a pot to piss in. As a reminder all the urban Ukrainian Jews were from a genius Tsar who actually tried to de-urbanize Jews by locking them into urban areas. Another genius Russian Tsar of history. That genius move is in fact tied to the waves of Jews that came to the US.

    Having said that I do not have to like his back-stabbing racist Barbarossa.

    So gunning down random Slavs is wrong and racist but some small village Jew is fair game? How many of those Hungarian Jews owned media companies or sold pornography?

    What Hitler did was make it a taboo to criticize Jewish influence. The West also decided that human genetics are not to be studied honestly and all the eugenics research was shut down. California was actually a leader in eugenics until the failed water painter came along and gave everyone in the West a case of the guilts. Hitler removed Germany’s small population of Jews and now they have millions of Muslims. They also lost East Prussia. Way to go angry watercolor painter.

    The Putin did the same in Russia, post-Yeltsin, outwitted all the disloyal Jewish (headed by Berezovsky, see the documentary) oligarchs and reclaimed the Russian energy industry from their pillaging and their serving the pathological enemy across the ocean.

    What about helping his Jewish chef and petty criminal become a private billionaire warlord? The one that turned on him?

    Was that outwitting disloyal Jews?

    If you caught your military chef feeding rotten meat to your troops to save money would you help him become a billionaire and then let him have an entire front in a war?

    Stop living in some fantasy world where Putin is your next Hitler. He is close friends with Netanyahu and enjoys selling him oil. Putin could rein in Netanyahu at any time but chooses not to as he wants his oil cash.

    Putin thinks the Jews are great. Did you not see my video of his Jewish Dr. No? They are great pals. Putin likes Jews and Muslims that are as short as him.

    He does not like standing next to tall Anglos and it has been suggested that he only had good relations with Merkel because she was closer to his height.

    Putin with his Jewish Dr. No:

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    You hijacked my post for completely different purpose. I wrote: "You can ridicule Hitler all you want but he outwitted all the Jews in Germany and grabbed the power from them."

    I am not talking about his subsequent policies, but strictly about his outsmarting the "smart" Jews in grabbing the power which they equally aspired to get, just like short 15 years before in Russia. Well, that is history now, however still influential in their success of grabbing the power in the present US "democracy".

  453. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Mining old comments is internet bulletin board depravity. That's like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    Mining old comments is internet bulletin board depravity.

    No doubt. But this should be addressed to AP. That’s what the AP personage is repeatedly doing. Makes me feel flattered: someone reads my comments intently enough to remember things I said ages ago. Wow!

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    Don't flatter yourself too much.

    Sometimes you write some things that are so outlandish and dumb that they are easily remembered.

  454. @AP
    @Beckow


    The underground church was not the Church, but small groups of fanatics with crazy ideas like women-kids are subservient, not sending kids to commie schools, no medicines-vaccines, martyrdom…”Evangelicals” and “anabaptists
     
    The article I posted was specifically about the Catholic Church, dummy.

    Your bad socialist school left you ignorant about your own country.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    Official and underground: the survival strategy of the Catholic Church in Communist Czechoslovakia

    “ Despite repression, the Church strived to maintain official operation in Czechoslovakia. Simultaneously, it developed an underground structure that allowed for uncompromised religious life… The strategy chosen by the Catholic Church in Czechoslovakia was specific, compared to other European communist countries, as the Church simultaneously operated both legally and illegally; again, there is a parallel with the current situation of the Christian churches in China”

    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.

    You lie as usual Beckow, claiming it was just sectarian weirdos.

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

     

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality :

    “ The most violent measures targeted the clergy.Footnote27 Most of the bishops were interned, and the control over dioceses was given to vicars capitular and vicars general, previously appointed with the consent of (and often pressure from) the Communist officials. The state also appointed its representatives to oversee the operations of bishops’ offices. Bishops and many priests were sentenced in show trials and often imprisoned in labor camps.Footnote28 Monasteries and religious congregations were dismantled, and their members, both men and women, were interned in selected monasteries that also operated as labor camps. About one-fifth of the members of religious orders were sentenced to prison. The operation of religious orders was illegal until the of end of the communist era.”

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    Get lost with your illiterate hogwash. Czechs are not even Catholics (11 %), the majority of population around 34.5% claim no religion (highest in Europe) and further 44.7% are undeclared. On the other hand Slovakia is land of Catholics similar to Hungary or Poland.

    Bishops and many priests were sentenced in show trials and often imprisoned in labor camps.

    That is true. When Stalin insisted on cleansing Communist party in Czechoslovakia in the early 50’s (Slansky process) 14 members of the party leadership were “charged” and executed from that 12 were Jewish. There is the answer for vicious campaign against Catholics in post-war Slovakia.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Derer


    Get lost with your illiterate hogwash. Czechs are not even Catholics
     
    Illiterate Derer didn't even read that I was writing about Czechoslovakia, not only Czechia.
  455. S1 says:
    @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    ...West’s delusions of grandeur and faith in their own propaganda about “Russian weakness”etc., have created this situation.
     
    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda. They are possibly not very smart or live busy lives with all that cubicle work calling each other to sell stuff. No time to think. The physical stuff again beat self-aggrandizement.

    clearly worded in detail with UN approval...
     
    We are beyond words, they are now to only describe what is happening. UN is irrelevant - you can't have Washington call Palau or 100 other minor dependencies and take that seriously. Security Council will stay but be mostly blocked. The rest of UN is effectively dead: pricey NY party circuit.

    Let's see, what third-rate vassals will be chosen this year for a guest appearance on the Security Council? Will it be Albania or Malta? The suspense is unbearable, who will it be this year...almost as suspenseful as what Ukies-are-suffering and Russia is bad! documentary will get the Oscar.

    Those institutions are all brain-dead, Macron got that right but forgot to mention that they died from the self-inflicted Western narcissism, special people who insists on making the rules but don't follow them. Time to move on.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Emil Nikola Richard, @S1

    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda.

    Every person should read Edward L Bernays’ disturbing 1928 book Propaganda excerpted and linked below. In my opinion the book would more accurately be called Brainwash and the tactics described within (which Bernays is all for) should be outlawed and actively policed against.

    Bernays is seen as something like the godfather of modern mass advertising in the United States. While no doubt there’s plenty of propaganda to spare the world over, with this book being published in the US, America and it’s satellite states no doubt got more than their fair share of propagandization.

    This book was published almost a hundred years ago in 1928. God only knows where the ‘technology’ in this field is at today.

    The easy anecdote of course is to turn off the TV and radio, and other devices, and to engage in original and independent thought.

    https://archive.org/details/BernaysPropaganda/mode/1up

    We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of….They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure….Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country…It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.’

    Propaganda – CHAPTER I – ORGANIZING CHAOS

    The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.

    We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of
    the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.

    Our invisible governors are, in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet.

    [MORE]

    continued

    ‘They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure. Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons — a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty million — who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @S1

    Excellent substantive and thought-provoking comment (very rare on this thread).

    Propaganda or brainwashing? Distinction without a difference.

    I did not read the book, but I see a critical omission in your excerpt. The real rulers are not propagandists/brainwashers, but those who own and direct them. The same people own and direct the government (which in the US includes the President, his cabinet, and Congress). Both MSM and the government are pretty expensive. Only those who are stealing huge amounts of public funds (that’s hundreds of billions in the US) can afford to own propagandists (and MSM spreading their propaganda) and the government. Owning and directing MSM and the government maintains their opportunities to steal massive amounts of public money and keep this gravy train going. This is a positive feedback loop. Positive feedback eventually makes any system crash and burn. That’s the tendency we are observing in the US now.

    The weakness of this system is that the people who own MSM and the government are not one person or even an organization. These people would gladly steal from each other and cut each other’s throats. E.g., the animosity of a big part of the establishment to Trump and Musk illustrates disunity of thieves. Infighting among thieves gives the US hope.

    We can only observe this from sidelines. But we can root for them all to exterminate each other. That’s the only chance to save the country.

    Replies: @S1, @S1

  456. @A123
    @Mikel

    Let me recap the situation: (1)


    Former President Trump muddied the waters with his support of Johnson, “Trump says he thinks Speaker Mike Johnson is ‘doing a very good job’ amid ouster threat from Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

    I doubt this is some form of 5D chess from Trump; it is only the simple reality that if Johnson is ousted and Democrats take control of the House, Trump's November election is over.

    Remember the U.S. Supreme Court decision on “insurrection” claimed by the Colorado Supreme Court? The March 4 decision stated:

    The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made. The relevant provision is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course to judicial review, to pass “appropriate legislation” to “enforce” the Fourteenth Amendment.
     
    In other words, Congress, by a simple majority, can pass a bill claiming that Trump is disqualified from the election due to being an “insurrectionist.” That would be the first order of business by a Democrat-controlled House. The Senate would pass the House bill and President Biden would sign it.

    If you don’t believe the Democrats would try to disqualify Trump in this manner, a bill introduced by Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin is already teed up.

    Per Axios:

    Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment.

    "We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court's decision," Raskin said.

    Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an "insurrection" and that those involved "engaged in insurrection."
     
    The SCOTUS decision mentioned, “Subject of course to judicial review.” Would that stop such a scheme? Why would SCOTUS block such an act of Congress that they green-lighted in their recent decision?

    This would explain Trump supporting Johnson. Does Rep. MTG realize how this could play out? Is she acting out of principle, or is this a backhanded way of undermining Trump? This is where the 5D chess machinations come in. Washington, D.C., is indeed a swamp.
     
    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    Do you really believe that SCOTUS would go out of their way to do the right thing?
    ____

    I too share your dismay at the idiotic bill that passed the House. However, fighting tomorrow requires surviving today. Preemptively capitulating by helping guaranteed loser RFKjr is obviously unwise.

    You can say that Trump us an imperfect choice... But please tell me you realize he is the best and only choice that has a chance at defeating the Veggie-In-Chief this November.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/04/how_do_you_solve_a_problem_like_mike_johnson.html

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

    Thanks for that article. There are some good arguments there.

    Of course, there is no doubt Raskin would go ahead with his plan to disqualify Trump (though he’d lack the votes). That’s not even as radical as what they’re already doing with the five sham trials. To the extent that they think about provoking a civil confrontation at all, they probably reckon that it might be good for them. Provoke Trump followers to commit illegal acts and use the levers of power (that they control) to suppress them forever.

    Outrageous as the “fraud” trial was (has any politician ever in any part of the world received a $0.5B fine… using a novel interpretation of a law that had never been used before?), it’s nothing compared to the remaining trials. Imagine yourself having to face 4 consecutive criminal trials and knowing that you’re up against prosecutors, judges and jurors fully determined to send you to jail for the rest of your life in each of them. They’re clearly trying to break the man. And to some extent or another, it will be a miracle if they don’t succeed.

    But this actually reinforces my point. Trump is no shape to lead any ideological fight and he wasn’t good at that even when he was younger and free of all these threats.

    You can say that Trump us an imperfect choice… But please tell me you realize he is the best and only choice that has a chance at defeating the Veggie-In-Chief this November

    Yes. But how much does that matter really? Jesse Kelly is capable of saying pretty moronic things but he has convinced me that the only elections that really matter at this point in time are the congressional primaries. As we keep seeing all the time, sending a Thomas Massie or a Chip Roy to Washington instead of a Diaz-Ballart or a Mike Johnson is much more consequential policy-wise than voting for Trump in November.

    Fortunately, there are lots of new candidates in all states running for Congress with MAGA or libertarian ideas. I see plenty cropping up in Utah, even though this is a RINO paradise. But unfortunately, most Republican voters aren’t motivated enough to take part in the primaries, keep sending Establishment RINOs to DC and then plan on fixing everything by voting for savior Trump. Even more unfortunately, Trump keeps endorsing candidates that are _not_ MAGA and will surely betray his policies and possibly himself once in Washington. See Ann Coulter’s latest column about that son of illegal Syrian immigrants that he’s endorsing in Arizona.

    • Thanks: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel

    As I have pointed out in the past. MAGA is much larger than Trump's 2nd term. Indeed, it will take multiple Presidential administrations to fix the problems that took decades to create.


    there are lots of new candidates in all states running for Congress with MAGA or libertarian ideas
     
    Trump has been instrumental to this with endorsements, rallies, and fund raising. He personally called out the 10 worst RINO's in the House. Eight of them retired abruptly or lost to MAGA candidates in the GOP primaries.

    Yes. Ten out of ten would have been better, but unrealistic short term demands are inherently unreasonable.


    Trump keeps endorsing candidates that are _not_ MAGA
     
    Where has Trump passed on an *electable* MAGA candidate? Extreme purity tests that lose seats are unhelpful. Alas, there are some districts were a softer message is required to win.

    How much better would the House be if the GOP had a larger margin? Unseating Santos, while attractive from the perspective of zealous purity, denied Johnson a vote. Was forcing him out for a Democrat replacement really the best call?

    Even if they are not ultra puritanical MAGA, Trump builds "soft power" with endorsements, rallies, and fund raising. This leverage can be used to bring wavering congressmen into line. Casting the right vote for a less than pure reason is sometimes the workable solution.


    Trump is no shape to lead any ideological fight
     
    Being the target of unprecedented persecution creates the perfect shape for a leader towards Justice Under the Law. He is attracting non-white, working class men at a rapid pace. Those who feel they have been unfairly targeted by Globalist state and corporate oppression are in play.

    For example, union members are telling Not-The-President Biden what they really think [MORE]. DNC intolerance, misbehaviour, and incompetence are driving voters to MAGA.

    This needs to be capitalized on in House, Senate, and Presidential races. Capitulation to anti-MAGA candidate RFKjr is highly destructive. It reduces the chances of MAGA wins down ballot. Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.

    PEACE 😇

    https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1783517791317864653?s=4

    Replies: @Derer, @Mikel

  457. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    You can ridicule Hitler all you want but he outwitted all the Jews in Germany and grabbed the power from them.

    He did not outwit all the Jews in Germany.

    The smart and wealthy ones left for Britain and the US. Most of the Jewish Communists fled to the USSR. In fact it was in Ukraine where the heavily Jewish NKVD killed their prisoners before fleeing to Russia (1941 NKVD prison massacre).

    Which means the type of Jew that he hated simply setup shop in another country.

    Hitler mostly killed Polish and Hungarian shopkeeps, petty traders, cobblers, etc. Oh and women and children. Nothing sticks it to wealthy Jews like gunning down some village Jew in Ukraine who doesn't have a pot to piss in. As a reminder all the urban Ukrainian Jews were from a genius Tsar who actually tried to de-urbanize Jews by locking them into urban areas. Another genius Russian Tsar of history. That genius move is in fact tied to the waves of Jews that came to the US.

    Having said that I do not have to like his back-stabbing racist Barbarossa.

    So gunning down random Slavs is wrong and racist but some small village Jew is fair game? How many of those Hungarian Jews owned media companies or sold pornography?

    What Hitler did was make it a taboo to criticize Jewish influence. The West also decided that human genetics are not to be studied honestly and all the eugenics research was shut down. California was actually a leader in eugenics until the failed water painter came along and gave everyone in the West a case of the guilts. Hitler removed Germany's small population of Jews and now they have millions of Muslims. They also lost East Prussia. Way to go angry watercolor painter.

    The Putin did the same in Russia, post-Yeltsin, outwitted all the disloyal Jewish (headed by Berezovsky, see the documentary) oligarchs and reclaimed the Russian energy industry from their pillaging and their serving the pathological enemy across the ocean.

    What about helping his Jewish chef and petty criminal become a private billionaire warlord? The one that turned on him?

    Was that outwitting disloyal Jews?

    If you caught your military chef feeding rotten meat to your troops to save money would you help him become a billionaire and then let him have an entire front in a war?

    Stop living in some fantasy world where Putin is your next Hitler. He is close friends with Netanyahu and enjoys selling him oil. Putin could rein in Netanyahu at any time but chooses not to as he wants his oil cash.

    Putin thinks the Jews are great. Did you not see my video of his Jewish Dr. No? They are great pals. Putin likes Jews and Muslims that are as short as him.

    He does not like standing next to tall Anglos and it has been suggested that he only had good relations with Merkel because she was closer to his height.

    Putin with his Jewish Dr. No:
    https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2052731/russias-vladimir-putin-vladimir-solovyov.jpg?w=790&f=b38363a35298aa17816a26cea9852135

    Replies: @Derer

    You hijacked my post for completely different purpose. I wrote: “You can ridicule Hitler all you want but he outwitted all the Jews in Germany and grabbed the power from them.”

    I am not talking about his subsequent policies, but strictly about his outsmarting the “smart” Jews in grabbing the power which they equally aspired to get, just like short 15 years before in Russia. Well, that is history now, however still influential in their success of grabbing the power in the present US “democracy”.

  458. @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    Note how he trumps the Nazi allied Slovak government without mentioning the Catholic priest who headed it.

    https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/no-saint-jozef-tiso-and-the-holocaust-slovakia

    Noted without meaning to demean all Catholics.

    Replies: @Beckow

    AP’s modus operandi is to only see one side and when confronted to run away. Clero-fascists were the main Nazi collaborators who committed horrible crimes. After WW2 they found Jesus again and wanted all to be forgotten. Today they selectively recall only what was done to them as retribution.

    AP is a hopeless ideologue..

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
    • Troll: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    Somewhat reminded of Motyl.

  459. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Your “source” are ideological Bible pushers still bitter because they couldn’t export truck-loads of bibles. Countries have a right to control what is imported – US does it all the time from pharmacy drugs to undesirable videos.

    So you acknowledge that they did in fact smuggle Bibles?

    Answer the question: would US allow an obviously deranged religious group from Siberia export its “material” and try to convert people en masse? As the Mormons or Baptists do? Would Germany?

    I didn't give my opinion on the policy. If you think Baptist groups are deranged for wanting to bring in Bibles then feel free to make that argument.

    I'm pointing out that the statements you and AnonTN made are factually incorrect. It was not a fabrication as part of a propaganda campaign. Bibles were indeed smuggled by church groups into the USSR. They were also smuggled into China and other Communist states.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Bibles were indeed smuggled by church groups into the USSR.

    By that logic so was underwear and socks. Don’t you see how stupid you are? Smuggling what is already there to aggrandize yourself and to spin propaganda stories.

    …If you think Baptist groups are deranged..

    It is not what I think – they are, and so are Pentecostals, Jehovas, Moonies, charismatic Catholics, Mormons…all provincial backward cults trying to convert dumb people. No country is required to allow in your crazies, keep them at home. US also doesn’t allow crazy Russian cults to spread, why should Russia be better?

    If you don’t have an opinion on their derangement you don’t know much about your country. Or you an intellectual coward.

  460. @S1
    @Beckow


    Westies seem particularly prone to believe in propaganda.
     
    Every person should read Edward L Bernays' disturbing 1928 book Propaganda excerpted and linked below. In my opinion the book would more accurately be called Brainwash and the tactics described within (which Bernays is all for) should be outlawed and actively policed against.

    Bernays is seen as something like the godfather of modern mass advertising in the United States. While no doubt there's plenty of propaganda to spare the world over, with this book being published in the US, America and it's satellite states no doubt got more than their fair share of propagandization.

    This book was published almost a hundred years ago in 1928. God only knows where the 'technology' in this field is at today.

    The easy anecdote of course is to turn off the TV and radio, and other devices, and to engage in original and independent thought.


    https://archive.org/details/BernaysPropaganda/mode/1up

    We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of....They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure....Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country...It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.'


    Propaganda - CHAPTER I - ORGANIZING CHAOS

    The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.

    We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of
    the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.

    Our invisible governors are, in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet.
     


    continued

    'They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure. Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons — a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty million — who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.

     

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Excellent substantive and thought-provoking comment (very rare on this thread).

    Propaganda or brainwashing? Distinction without a difference.

    I did not read the book, but I see a critical omission in your excerpt. The real rulers are not propagandists/brainwashers, but those who own and direct them. The same people own and direct the government (which in the US includes the President, his cabinet, and Congress). Both MSM and the government are pretty expensive. Only those who are stealing huge amounts of public funds (that’s hundreds of billions in the US) can afford to own propagandists (and MSM spreading their propaganda) and the government. Owning and directing MSM and the government maintains their opportunities to steal massive amounts of public money and keep this gravy train going. This is a positive feedback loop. Positive feedback eventually makes any system crash and burn. That’s the tendency we are observing in the US now.

    The weakness of this system is that the people who own MSM and the government are not one person or even an organization. These people would gladly steal from each other and cut each other’s throats. E.g., the animosity of a big part of the establishment to Trump and Musk illustrates disunity of thieves. Infighting among thieves gives the US hope.

    We can only observe this from sidelines. But we can root for them all to exterminate each other. That’s the only chance to save the country.

    • Disagree: S1
    • Replies: @S1
    @AnonfromTN


    Owning and directing MSM and the government maintains their opportunities to steal massive amounts of public money and keep this gravy train going. This is a positive feedback loop. Positive feedback eventually makes any system crash and burn.
     
    This is a valid point.

    Their inability to tolerate necessary constructive criticism (note: not bashing) has created a real blindness on these people's part, like a ship not making the appropriate periodic course corrections. Such an improperly captained ship of state will eventually (as a matter of course) run aground, as the US/UK is in the process of doing.

    Hopefully there will be something left of the world after all is said and done.
    , @S1
    @AnonfromTN


    Propaganda or brainwashing? Distinction without a difference.
     
    That is your opinion of course.

    You know, contrarianism, needless hyper-criticality, and know-it-all-ism, doesn't tend to translate into much of a healthy and enjoyable discussion. [I'd intended to respond specifically to this a bit earlier.]

  461. @sudden death
    Avar harem sharing confirmed? But don't think that's some unique pastoralist phenomenon, IIRC it was observed by Danish envoy that Ivan Grozny had it also in practice and was sharing with his sons:

    The genetic analysis revealed that both men and women commonly had children with more than one partner. It also produced clear evidence for a practice called levirate, which is when closely related men have children with the same woman, often following the death of one of the men. The team found three pairs of fathers and sons, two pairs of brothers, and an uncle and nephew who each had shared a female partner.

    "All the aforementioned phenomena lead us to assume that the segment of Avar society we investigated had a structure comparable to that of Eurasian pastoralist steppe people," particularly in terms of patrilineality or male-reckoned descent, the researchers wrote in their study.
     

    https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/dna-analysis-spanning-9-generations-of-people-reveals-marriage-practices-of-mysterious-warrior-culture

    Replies: @LatW, @Philip Owen

    Thanks for posting that. I’ve been looking for information on the “brother’s family” structure, trying to see if such a thing really existed (especially for our people, there is something that sounds like a reference to it in the old poems – it seems like some kind of a social structure where younger men ruled and were relied on more). There is something called plures ex fratribus, I’m trying to find out what it was.

  462. @AP
    @Beckow


    About 25% of Catholic priests operated Underground.


    Where? When? It looks like a total lie – in all of Czechoslovakia there were about a dozen documented “spiritual Catholics” who didn’t have a permission to be priests: a few individual cases among thousand of priests
     
    Hmm..whom to believe, Beckow the random internet commenter who demonstrably writes falsehoods in almost every post, or the author of the paper I cited:

    Pavol Minarik

    Pavol Minarik is Assistant Professor at Jan E. Purkyně University in Ústí nad Labem, Czech Republic. His research focuses on economics of religion in communist and post-communist Central and Eastern Europe. He holds a PhD. in comparative analysis of law, economics and institutions from University of Turin, Italy. His work has appeared in journals such as the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, Journal of Church and State, Religion and Politics, and Review of Religious Research.

    ::::::::

    Let’s see about your false claim of “a few individual cases”:

    “ The Catholic Church began to establish the underground clerical structure as early as 1948. Initially, several bishops were ordained as ‘backups’ for active bishops who could have been prevented from properly performing their religious and administrative duties. Also, the Church in communist countries obtained special permissions, dubbed ‘Mexican faculties’, that should have helped to minister in extraordinary circumstances”

    Communist oppression generated three types of underground priests. First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish. That was the case of religious priests especially… Roughly one-quarter of the Catholic clergy ministered illegally in the 1980s.

    ::::::::::::

    But you keep lying about your country, Beckow.

    Many Catholic priests and monks in the early 1950’s were charged for their Nazi collaboration

    I’m sure many were accused of that, and some accusations were real. But in reality:…


    Almost all were real
     
    Just like only a dozen or so underground priests, correct?

    And of course the monks and nuns were also mostly Nazis according to the Communists who filled your poor naive head with the nonsense justification for the massive religious persecution.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The Usti University? No kidding, it is a small industrial shi..hole, do you have any idea where it is and how small it is? That “Minarik” guy is about as respectable as someone from a random Podunk University in Upper Volta. Or Kingsman, Arizona.

    I don’t know him but he obviously lies for the cause of “oppressed church”. Why do you misrepresent what he says: he counts any malcontent and alternative wannabe as a priest. By that standard there are thousands of underground priests in the US big cities mumbling about Jesus on street corners. Many are homeless or in jail – what a f…ing oppression of the “church” you have there?

    You got caught making up things and as always you escape into minutia and lies. “Professor Minarik“, wow…sounds like a bad Hollywood flick about a hochstapler tricking old ladies out of inheritance.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    The Usti University? No kidding, it is a small industrial shi..hole, do you have any idea where it is and how small it is? That “Minarik” guy is about as respectable as someone from a random Podunk University in Upper Volta
     
    So you compare a mediocre Czech University to one in sub-Saharan Africa.

    How about Slovak Universities?

    You realize that you are just debasing yourself further here.

    What about University of Turn where he got his doctorate?

    I don’t know him but he obviously lies
     
    A random internet liar claims that a university professor "obviously lies" when the information he writes completely contradicts what the liar claims.

    for the cause of “oppressed church”.
     
    So you claim institutions in Czechia support lying for the cause of an oppressed church.

    he counts any malcontent and alternative wannabe as a priest.
     
    Only ones ordained by the Catholic Church. Not any.

    Remember what the article was about.

    These are the priests he talked about when he counted 25% as being in the Underground Churuch:

    First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish.

    You got caught making up things
     
    I made nothing up, I posted information from a university professor in a peer-reviewed journal.

    You, the serial liar, made claims that contradicted the published material.

    It's clear which information was true and which was false.

    Sorry for getting you caught making things up as usual.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

  463. @John Johnson
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    That’s like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    What amazes me is how quickly they can do it. Like it was yesterday but they have that card ready.

    It's like a left jab that confuses men expecting a solid right.

    Wait.....what....you are bringing that up.....what? The fucking dinner incident again? During COVID?

    I fortunately don't fight with my wife very often but I sure know that play.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …That’s like your wife or girlfriend bringing up some beef from four years ago because she has to change the subject to something where she knows she can win.

    What amazes me is how quickly they can do it. Like it was yesterday but they have that card ready.

    There is no winning there – they are going for a draw. It paralyzes the discussion and that’s the goal. It comes to women naturally, they have an instinct for it. Otherwise they will pretend not to remember anything.

  464. @AP
    @Sean

    Until Putin chose to annex Crimea, Russia was converging with the Visegrad countries. Had this process continued it would have (as have the Visegrad countries) eventually attained a Mediterranean European level of wealth. Instead, Russia is at the level of the Balkans, or Mexico.

    Of course, under Putin Russia stopped and reversed the catastrophic 90s decline. So he has undone his own legacy by choosing to invade Ukraine.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Mr. XYZ

    Kasyanov, then oil reversed the decline, not Putin. Putin’s coup in February 2004 ousted Kasyanov in favour of Medveedev who disappointed but Putin returns loyalty. Mishustin is meant to become a Kasyanov clone but without EU and NATO aspirations.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Philip Owen

    A Western neolib establishment take of Mishustin:

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/%E2%80%9Cenlightened%E2%80%9D-alternative-after-putin-210646

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  465. @sudden death
    Avar harem sharing confirmed? But don't think that's some unique pastoralist phenomenon, IIRC it was observed by Danish envoy that Ivan Grozny had it also in practice and was sharing with his sons:

    The genetic analysis revealed that both men and women commonly had children with more than one partner. It also produced clear evidence for a practice called levirate, which is when closely related men have children with the same woman, often following the death of one of the men. The team found three pairs of fathers and sons, two pairs of brothers, and an uncle and nephew who each had shared a female partner.

    "All the aforementioned phenomena lead us to assume that the segment of Avar society we investigated had a structure comparable to that of Eurasian pastoralist steppe people," particularly in terms of patrilineality or male-reckoned descent, the researchers wrote in their study.
     

    https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/dna-analysis-spanning-9-generations-of-people-reveals-marriage-practices-of-mysterious-warrior-culture

    Replies: @LatW, @Philip Owen

    That’s bascially the same thing as the original basis for muslim harems. If a brother died then a survivng brother took the widow as an extra wife and provided for her children, his nephews and neices.

  466. @LatW
    @Beckow


    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals
     
    Seriously? You had women in top leadership roles?? Or are you talking just minor level functionaries? Maybe that's because you guys were less "hardcore totalitarian" than the real Soviets. In the real Soviet system, the women were made to do all the low level, hard work (with the exception of a few artists and similar "light" professions who served the system, although they did need to have some real talent), the top functionaries were always men (often not very impressive ones - I think many of the better men had been pushed away and emasculated).

    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.

    So that's a difference there (if it is as you say). Yours sound almost like Gro Harlem Brundtland, a 1980s Nordic political icon, - although she was a real strong politician who kind of stood on her own regardless of the Nordic political culture and was competent, unlike those Sovok and Warsaw pact marionettes.

    And, yes, the Thracians migrated from the East (as many of us did), I figure this musician who was scorned by Plato was most likely from the south, but was just wondering - there were probably all kinds of traveling bards and musicians even back then.

    (Although apparently only Greek citizens were allowed as actors in Greek theater).

    As to the Greek descriptions of the Thracian's sexual mores, one would have to look closer at those sources - the Thracians were sometimes taken on as soldiers by the Greeks so in that setting they may have been more promiscuous and careless since they would've been away from their core societies that would normally hold them to stricter behavior norms.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.

    Just about the biggest pile of ratsh*t, dishonest, dumbest comment possible. Even by the standards of a constantly lying Latvian eunuch POS.

    About 25 of the top 100 business owners/richest people in Tatarstan, my place , and key economic hub, are women you retarded idiot. So instinctively and immediately I know you are just inventing BS out of nowhere. Omsk, plenty of family there, it’s something like 20 out of 100. These are abnormally high numbers

    Entrepreneurs/technocrats such as Kasperskaya and Bakalchuk are known to all. Can ANY equivalent of these women be named in Latvia? Of course not.
    I think we have 4 female dollar billionaires who aren’t from marriage/inheritance (and including Fileva of S7 airlines who sadly died in plane crash)…….I think we are the same or superior to US, Canada and all the other western countries on this .

    Comparing the very wealthiest is pointless because of course for Russia it’s mostly 90’s acquired oligarch parasites off minerals, oil& gas and other state corporations – and can’t expect Latvia to have many billionaires. You can however make comparisons in sectors or in oblasts vs the whole of Latvian shithole, as I did for Omsk and Tatarstan….and of course its a non-contest you shameless retard, LMAO.

    Even a schizo shitbag as you should know the disproportionately higher number of Russians, Scandinavians, Jews ahead of Latvian plankton in charge of LATVIAN private businesses you lying scumbag – shipping, banking of course, retail etc. In that hierarchy it’s even Russian women ahead of Latvian women, LOL. Again, lying scum like you should and probably does know this.

    Except for the ethnic Russian+other non-latvian Yelena Buraga at Rietumu……..I can’t think of ANY Latvian women in top Latvian-retard companies. Maybe things have changed in the last 5-10 years (can’t be bothered checking)…..but I doubt it.

    For Russia -Gazprom has 3 out of 10 women on Board of Directors. 1 out of the 5 executives at Sber is a woman. 2 out of 10 in Novatek. Our central Bank governor. 1 out of 3 executives at X5 group. Many top female managers at Rostec. S7-Fileva. One at Rosneft . None at Aeroflot or Tatneft ( although huge amount of female mid-level managers at Aeroflot) . , Dixi – CFO- woman. Rusal – Board of Directors – 2 out of 13 women ( with 4 of them being western men, so its 2 Russian women and 7 Russian men. Megafon- don’t know. Russian media organisations……..about a million women. Academia – the same. You could say that legal positions that women are not as fairly treated as men compared to the very high numbers studying law at University and training to be lawyer….but there is still plenty of them

    Banking, Minerals, Oil % Gas, Airlines, Agriculture, Pharmaceutical,Tech, Machinery, Retail…..ALL these sectors have alot of top female managers and executives compared to the ZERO of Latvia. Those are just the top companies , but at the mid-level the proportion is significantly higher

    Just to be clear – I consider one out of 3 , 1in 6, even 1 in 10 of these positions to be a very high representation of women.We are still massively in front of most western countries on woman in top leadership positions you dumb prick – the big increase in western politics in women is only a very recent, post-communist phenomenon you dickhead – I don’t think until just before coronavirus have they been starting to force western boards of directors/executives to be 50/50 for quota targets. And we always since 1991 exponentially higher in female representation in politics and everything else compared to the ‘west-looking” ex-soviet states like Gruzia, Moldova and failed-state of Ukraine.

    As a worthless lying POS who does nothing other than thinking about Russian stuff all day, its absolutely bizarre you don’t know about the very high percentage of women arrested in corruption cases in RF, mainly because they are in CFO or similar position related to the accounting – for sure in many of those cases it involves some scumbag corrupt men using her as a sacrificial victim…….other cases not ( ……however the point is that they are appointed in these significant positions anyway you idiot) .

    “light” professions who served the system, although they did need to have some real talent), the top functionaries were always men (often not very impressive ones – I

    .

    Again, you useless retard – this is the exact same pattern across all the world for the last 100 years, especially in the west, of males disproportionately having top positions in politics, business and everything else – like 90, 95% until the 1990’s – or sometimes not even then but far into 2010’s.

    Deindustrialisation and services-orientated economy , feminism increases these women numbers in Politics and business compared to the non-existant numbers until recently. My own perception from hearing friends there is that households having 2 cars (i.e the woman driving in addition to the husband) becoming a majority thing only started happening in the west, except the US where always like that, in the last 30-40 years.

    Maybe that’s because you guys were less “hardcore totalitarian” than the real Soviets.

    In absolutely zero way since Khrushchev could the Soviet Union be called “totalitarian” you mentally diseased shitbag.

    Now considering that modern-day f**kup state Latvia IS a totalitarian shithole state, then your comment is extremely ironic. Totalitarian, shithole , apartheid state to be exact. Very few people in USSR, very few Latvian earthworms in LatvianSSR thought they were in “totalitarian” state at the time you POS. End of Communism and of course many can see the type of things they missed ( and many things they enjoyed) from the limited economic freedom. Clearly because of the concept of the system itself, economic freedom was limited – and the level of economic freedom is that much higher now – which acts to camouflage to some of them just how evil, and totalitarian much of the laws and practices in parasitic Latvian shithole is.

    LOL – how can a scumbag as yourself so shamelessly lie – trying to exploit the fact you are ashamed of your own non-entity ethnicity to even try to promote it on here, and that nobody here is interested in it…….you continually write nonsense hoping for it not be exposed as idiocy – like this, or the vast majority of buildings in Riga being Russian, German or Soviet…….and of course the comedic fake of Jani day being “banned” by Soviets!

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    You do realize that I was talking about the KPSS? Top leadership? Reading comprehension problems?

    I have no time to respond to human garbage such as yourself. Don't bother writing me. You're literally my dad's age and yet you try to tell me lies about life in my own country (which you know little about). This is beyond absurd. You'll be going down, skatertyu doroshka.

    Replies: @LatW, @Gerard1234

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Gerard1234

    Talking to the deaf? Showing pictures to the blind? Having heart-to-heart discussion with a lamppost? Very sensible endeavors.

  467. @John Johnson
    Russel "Texas" Bently singing about how much he loves his new home in Novorossiya.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nGtoThx9Bk

    Well that was before he was buttraped by Russian soldiers.

    Talk about a confused White man. Reminds me of confused Whites that they think are "down with Blacks" and then end up killed over a $50 drug deal.

    I wonder what he thought about Putin breaking his word on making DPR and LPR independent Republics.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I hope they are paying you. If not, you need to get a life.

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
  468. @YetAnotherAnon
    I think China is telling Blinken to boil his head. He'd gone there to tell them not to sell stuff to Russia.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2547ll8z0ro


    Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi has cautioned his US counterpart Antony Blinken against stepping on China's "red lines”, as the two country's top diplomats met in Beijing on Friday.

    Mr Wang opened the meeting with a question which sounded more like a warning: "Should China and the United States keep to the right direction of moving forward with stability or return to a downward spiral?"

    The China-US relationship is beginning to stabilise, but it is still being tested by "negative factors", he added.

    Mr Blinken, who is on his second visit to China in less than a year, will wrap up his trip with China's President Xi Jinping on Friday afternoon.

    The meeting between Mr Blinken and President Xi was announced just hours before it is due to happen.

    Earlier on Friday, Mr Wang had warned that both countries could either engage in cooperation or confrontation, and even a "slide into conflict".

     

    "Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats"

    https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Philip Owen

    And yet Xi gave him an unscheduled audience with warm words about cooperation.

    Xi seems to tell his provincial governors what they want to hear. Recall Putin.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Philip Owen

    "And yet Xi gave him an unscheduled audience with warm words about cooperation."

    Extremely sensible thing to do from a Chinese perspective. Why bring forward the inevitable? The longer China can stay onside with the US, the stronger they can become.

    But I did suggest in an earlier post that warm and meaningless waffle was quite possible:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/breaking-news-9/#comment-6533857


    “Now, China, you must stop supporting Russian war industry, so that when we’ve beaten them, we can turn against you”.

    “Mr Blinken, China at all times supports peaceful outcomes and co-operation between countries, and we understand and appreciate the concerns of the United States, which we fully take on board. Try these noodles, they’re delicious.”
     

    To think that in the 1950s China was in turmoil if not actual starvation, while the UK was building nuclear power stations and still was a great shipbuilding and manufacturing power. Heartbreaking to contemplate.

    How we have fallen, and how they have risen.

    Replies: @A123

  469. @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.
     
    Just about the biggest pile of ratsh*t, dishonest, dumbest comment possible. Even by the standards of a constantly lying Latvian eunuch POS.

    About 25 of the top 100 business owners/richest people in Tatarstan, my place , and key economic hub, are women you retarded idiot. So instinctively and immediately I know you are just inventing BS out of nowhere. Omsk, plenty of family there, it's something like 20 out of 100. These are abnormally high numbers

    Entrepreneurs/technocrats such as Kasperskaya and Bakalchuk are known to all. Can ANY equivalent of these women be named in Latvia? Of course not.
    I think we have 4 female dollar billionaires who aren't from marriage/inheritance (and including Fileva of S7 airlines who sadly died in plane crash).......I think we are the same or superior to US, Canada and all the other western countries on this .

    Comparing the very wealthiest is pointless because of course for Russia it's mostly 90's acquired oligarch parasites off minerals, oil& gas and other state corporations - and can't expect Latvia to have many billionaires. You can however make comparisons in sectors or in oblasts vs the whole of Latvian shithole, as I did for Omsk and Tatarstan....and of course its a non-contest you shameless retard, LMAO.

    Even a schizo shitbag as you should know the disproportionately higher number of Russians, Scandinavians, Jews ahead of Latvian plankton in charge of LATVIAN private businesses you lying scumbag - shipping, banking of course, retail etc. In that hierarchy it's even Russian women ahead of Latvian women, LOL. Again, lying scum like you should and probably does know this.

    Except for the ethnic Russian+other non-latvian Yelena Buraga at Rietumu........I can't think of ANY Latvian women in top Latvian-retard companies. Maybe things have changed in the last 5-10 years (can't be bothered checking).....but I doubt it.

    For Russia -Gazprom has 3 out of 10 women on Board of Directors. 1 out of the 5 executives at Sber is a woman. 2 out of 10 in Novatek. Our central Bank governor. 1 out of 3 executives at X5 group. Many top female managers at Rostec. S7-Fileva. One at Rosneft . None at Aeroflot or Tatneft ( although huge amount of female mid-level managers at Aeroflot) . , Dixi - CFO- woman. Rusal - Board of Directors - 2 out of 13 women ( with 4 of them being western men, so its 2 Russian women and 7 Russian men. Megafon- don't know. Russian media organisations........about a million women. Academia - the same. You could say that legal positions that women are not as fairly treated as men compared to the very high numbers studying law at University and training to be lawyer....but there is still plenty of them

    Banking, Minerals, Oil % Gas, Airlines, Agriculture, Pharmaceutical,Tech, Machinery, Retail.....ALL these sectors have alot of top female managers and executives compared to the ZERO of Latvia. Those are just the top companies , but at the mid-level the proportion is significantly higher

    Just to be clear - I consider one out of 3 , 1in 6, even 1 in 10 of these positions to be a very high representation of women.We are still massively in front of most western countries on woman in top leadership positions you dumb prick - the big increase in western politics in women is only a very recent, post-communist phenomenon you dickhead - I don't think until just before coronavirus have they been starting to force western boards of directors/executives to be 50/50 for quota targets. And we always since 1991 exponentially higher in female representation in politics and everything else compared to the 'west-looking" ex-soviet states like Gruzia, Moldova and failed-state of Ukraine.

    As a worthless lying POS who does nothing other than thinking about Russian stuff all day, its absolutely bizarre you don't know about the very high percentage of women arrested in corruption cases in RF, mainly because they are in CFO or similar position related to the accounting - for sure in many of those cases it involves some scumbag corrupt men using her as a sacrificial victim.......other cases not ( ......however the point is that they are appointed in these significant positions anyway you idiot) .

    “light” professions who served the system, although they did need to have some real talent), the top functionaries were always men (often not very impressive ones – I
     
    .

    Again, you useless retard - this is the exact same pattern across all the world for the last 100 years, especially in the west, of males disproportionately having top positions in politics, business and everything else - like 90, 95% until the 1990's - or sometimes not even then but far into 2010's.

    Deindustrialisation and services-orientated economy , feminism increases these women numbers in Politics and business compared to the non-existant numbers until recently. My own perception from hearing friends there is that households having 2 cars (i.e the woman driving in addition to the husband) becoming a majority thing only started happening in the west, except the US where always like that, in the last 30-40 years.

    Maybe that’s because you guys were less “hardcore totalitarian” than the real Soviets.
     
    In absolutely zero way since Khrushchev could the Soviet Union be called "totalitarian" you mentally diseased shitbag.

    Now considering that modern-day f**kup state Latvia IS a totalitarian shithole state, then your comment is extremely ironic. Totalitarian, shithole , apartheid state to be exact. Very few people in USSR, very few Latvian earthworms in LatvianSSR thought they were in "totalitarian" state at the time you POS. End of Communism and of course many can see the type of things they missed ( and many things they enjoyed) from the limited economic freedom. Clearly because of the concept of the system itself, economic freedom was limited - and the level of economic freedom is that much higher now - which acts to camouflage to some of them just how evil, and totalitarian much of the laws and practices in parasitic Latvian shithole is.

    LOL - how can a scumbag as yourself so shamelessly lie - trying to exploit the fact you are ashamed of your own non-entity ethnicity to even try to promote it on here, and that nobody here is interested in it.......you continually write nonsense hoping for it not be exposed as idiocy - like this, or the vast majority of buildings in Riga being Russian, German or Soviet.......and of course the comedic fake of Jani day being "banned" by Soviets!

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    You do realize that I was talking about the KPSS? Top leadership? Reading comprehension problems?

    I have no time to respond to human garbage such as yourself. Don’t bother writing me. You’re literally my dad’s age and yet you try to tell me lies about life in my own country (which you know little about). This is beyond absurd. You’ll be going down, skatertyu doroshka.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @LatW

    See this is a great example of how the Russo-phile lies work:

    Beckow blurbs out some nonsense about how in the 1980s Slovakia "elderly women were in charge";

    I confront him by asking "Oh, really? At the very top? No way. That's not how it was in the USSR.";

    Beckow tries to wriggle out of the clear lie (an unimportant one, but still a lie) by muttering something about "where I lived in the immediate leadership they were women";

    I tell him that in the USSR it was men at the top and women at the lower rungs;

    Subject dropped (because it is boring without any further interesting details);

    Russian boomer garbage comes in and starts screaming about women in the private sector, accusing other people's countries of who knows what, while completely ignoring that the original question was about the top Communist leadership in the 1980s.

    And it leads to nothing but negativity.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    You do realize that I was talking about the KPSS? Top leadership? Reading comprehension problems?
     
    Once again, useless shit-for-brain, your quote:

    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.
     
    So for modern Russia......a lie, as usual from a tramp like you.

    For previous, Soviet Russia - totally misleading comment as women in top positions in politics, business, science, banking etc has been an extreme rarity in the west, in the US particularly , before 1991 and for most places still a long time after that. Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher were extremely unique cases you idiot. USSR/Warsaw pact was about the same as the west on female representation ( at worst). Here , just as in west, Health and Education and other social related departments were the ones more likely to have women leading.

    You could say that parity with the western numbers of woman is unacceptable because of the Soviet system and ethos , the form of feminism, number of women with high qualifications was set-up to have far more female leadership in it, than it did - that would be valid criticism.....not your drivel. I still believe that the car point is an important factor.

    No doubt western leadership had more of a collective element to it which greatly aided decision making, than the Soviet one. Ironic of course in view of the supposed individualist versus collectivist ideology of the systems supposed to be vice-versa. I think no doubt that nearly all the initial Soviet leadership either getting killed, or were attempted to get killed had a strong negative influence on all of this for the next 50, 60 years. It had to. That doesn't change the fact that despite these obstacles.......the USSR was a huge success, miracle of a state fhat produced greatness, was a pleasure to live and work in, grow up as a child in, be educated in

    And the following recollection of Beckow was the EXACT same one I have had you cretin:

    elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types.

     


    You’re literally my dad’s age and yet you try to tell me lies about life in my own country (which you know little about).

     

    LOL - as you know, by "lies" you mean - detailed, comprehensive, truth. And by "know little about" you mean "know too much" - useless eunuch reject idiot. The perfect world for trash like you is where everyone thinks Bucharest is in Latvia......that's the level of ignorance that trash like you wants people to have, so that the Nazi POS state of Latvia can do its Nazi sh*t actions facing zero pressure.
  470. @Wielgus
    @Mikhail

    He was about to leave office by then, and maybe he was belatedly starting to make amends. He never inspired the wild hatred in the West that Putin has, and some of his controversial actions like sending in the troops against the obstreperous Russian parliament in 1993 had Western support, if anything. The run-down condition of the Russian armed forces on his watch was hardly something unwelcome to them.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Putin didn’t hate the West. Quite the opposite, Like many Russians, he understandably became disappointed with the West. Specifically, the predominating Western elites.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    Putin didn’t hate the West. Quite the opposite,
     
    Putin is typical for his generation in Russia: he had illusions about the West and despite everything remains relatively mild to it. The next Russian president will be much younger and a lot more anti-Western.

    Replies: @Beckow

  471. @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.
     
    Just about the biggest pile of ratsh*t, dishonest, dumbest comment possible. Even by the standards of a constantly lying Latvian eunuch POS.

    About 25 of the top 100 business owners/richest people in Tatarstan, my place , and key economic hub, are women you retarded idiot. So instinctively and immediately I know you are just inventing BS out of nowhere. Omsk, plenty of family there, it's something like 20 out of 100. These are abnormally high numbers

    Entrepreneurs/technocrats such as Kasperskaya and Bakalchuk are known to all. Can ANY equivalent of these women be named in Latvia? Of course not.
    I think we have 4 female dollar billionaires who aren't from marriage/inheritance (and including Fileva of S7 airlines who sadly died in plane crash).......I think we are the same or superior to US, Canada and all the other western countries on this .

    Comparing the very wealthiest is pointless because of course for Russia it's mostly 90's acquired oligarch parasites off minerals, oil& gas and other state corporations - and can't expect Latvia to have many billionaires. You can however make comparisons in sectors or in oblasts vs the whole of Latvian shithole, as I did for Omsk and Tatarstan....and of course its a non-contest you shameless retard, LMAO.

    Even a schizo shitbag as you should know the disproportionately higher number of Russians, Scandinavians, Jews ahead of Latvian plankton in charge of LATVIAN private businesses you lying scumbag - shipping, banking of course, retail etc. In that hierarchy it's even Russian women ahead of Latvian women, LOL. Again, lying scum like you should and probably does know this.

    Except for the ethnic Russian+other non-latvian Yelena Buraga at Rietumu........I can't think of ANY Latvian women in top Latvian-retard companies. Maybe things have changed in the last 5-10 years (can't be bothered checking).....but I doubt it.

    For Russia -Gazprom has 3 out of 10 women on Board of Directors. 1 out of the 5 executives at Sber is a woman. 2 out of 10 in Novatek. Our central Bank governor. 1 out of 3 executives at X5 group. Many top female managers at Rostec. S7-Fileva. One at Rosneft . None at Aeroflot or Tatneft ( although huge amount of female mid-level managers at Aeroflot) . , Dixi - CFO- woman. Rusal - Board of Directors - 2 out of 13 women ( with 4 of them being western men, so its 2 Russian women and 7 Russian men. Megafon- don't know. Russian media organisations........about a million women. Academia - the same. You could say that legal positions that women are not as fairly treated as men compared to the very high numbers studying law at University and training to be lawyer....but there is still plenty of them

    Banking, Minerals, Oil % Gas, Airlines, Agriculture, Pharmaceutical,Tech, Machinery, Retail.....ALL these sectors have alot of top female managers and executives compared to the ZERO of Latvia. Those are just the top companies , but at the mid-level the proportion is significantly higher

    Just to be clear - I consider one out of 3 , 1in 6, even 1 in 10 of these positions to be a very high representation of women.We are still massively in front of most western countries on woman in top leadership positions you dumb prick - the big increase in western politics in women is only a very recent, post-communist phenomenon you dickhead - I don't think until just before coronavirus have they been starting to force western boards of directors/executives to be 50/50 for quota targets. And we always since 1991 exponentially higher in female representation in politics and everything else compared to the 'west-looking" ex-soviet states like Gruzia, Moldova and failed-state of Ukraine.

    As a worthless lying POS who does nothing other than thinking about Russian stuff all day, its absolutely bizarre you don't know about the very high percentage of women arrested in corruption cases in RF, mainly because they are in CFO or similar position related to the accounting - for sure in many of those cases it involves some scumbag corrupt men using her as a sacrificial victim.......other cases not ( ......however the point is that they are appointed in these significant positions anyway you idiot) .

    “light” professions who served the system, although they did need to have some real talent), the top functionaries were always men (often not very impressive ones – I
     
    .

    Again, you useless retard - this is the exact same pattern across all the world for the last 100 years, especially in the west, of males disproportionately having top positions in politics, business and everything else - like 90, 95% until the 1990's - or sometimes not even then but far into 2010's.

    Deindustrialisation and services-orientated economy , feminism increases these women numbers in Politics and business compared to the non-existant numbers until recently. My own perception from hearing friends there is that households having 2 cars (i.e the woman driving in addition to the husband) becoming a majority thing only started happening in the west, except the US where always like that, in the last 30-40 years.

    Maybe that’s because you guys were less “hardcore totalitarian” than the real Soviets.
     
    In absolutely zero way since Khrushchev could the Soviet Union be called "totalitarian" you mentally diseased shitbag.

    Now considering that modern-day f**kup state Latvia IS a totalitarian shithole state, then your comment is extremely ironic. Totalitarian, shithole , apartheid state to be exact. Very few people in USSR, very few Latvian earthworms in LatvianSSR thought they were in "totalitarian" state at the time you POS. End of Communism and of course many can see the type of things they missed ( and many things they enjoyed) from the limited economic freedom. Clearly because of the concept of the system itself, economic freedom was limited - and the level of economic freedom is that much higher now - which acts to camouflage to some of them just how evil, and totalitarian much of the laws and practices in parasitic Latvian shithole is.

    LOL - how can a scumbag as yourself so shamelessly lie - trying to exploit the fact you are ashamed of your own non-entity ethnicity to even try to promote it on here, and that nobody here is interested in it.......you continually write nonsense hoping for it not be exposed as idiocy - like this, or the vast majority of buildings in Riga being Russian, German or Soviet.......and of course the comedic fake of Jani day being "banned" by Soviets!

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    Talking to the deaf? Showing pictures to the blind? Having heart-to-heart discussion with a lamppost? Very sensible endeavors.

  472. @Mikhail
    @Wielgus

    Putin didn't hate the West. Quite the opposite, Like many Russians, he understandably became disappointed with the West. Specifically, the predominating Western elites.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Putin didn’t hate the West. Quite the opposite,

    Putin is typical for his generation in Russia: he had illusions about the West and despite everything remains relatively mild to it. The next Russian president will be much younger and a lot more anti-Western.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...The next Russian president will be much younger and a lot more anti-Western.
     
    That will also be true about next Western leaders...:)

    The gig is up, time to move on. Maybe they will just redefine what "Western" means and the next generation in Russia may fall for it again...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  473. @AP
    @Sean


    There are 100 million more Russians than Ukrainians.
     
    And in 1920 there were far more Russians than Poles.

    And in 1939 there were 4 million Finns (not heavily armed or helped by the West, due to the diplomatic reasons) and 170 million Soviets.

    Soviets barely won that one, but would they have won if there 30 million Finns who were lavishly equipped by the West?

    The greatest shortage Ukraine currently faces is in troops according to Kofman. He also says that even after the recently approved US military aid package is delivered in full, Ukraine will still be up against a Russian numerical advantage in artillery and shells
     
    Which can be compensated for by superior accuracy and skill.

    Ukraine also enjoys a drone advantage.

    Overall picture is likely stalemate for awhile until one side or the other gives up. Russia more likely to do so, because Ukrainians are fighting for their own homes.

    Do you really think that if Ukraine had been a full member of NATO prior to Ukraine being invaded by Russia, that would mean the other countries of NATO would have been obliged to use their own armed forces to directly fight Russia to defend Ukraine?
     
    The risk of this happening would probably have prevented Russia from invading.

    Even if article 5 contained such an obligation to fellow NATO member countries (and it does not), they would not have abided by it in Ukraine’s case.
     
    You seem to be suggesting that if the Baltics get invaded, NATO won't send its troops in.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    And in 1920 there were far more Russians than Poles.

    And in 1939 there were 4 million Finns (not heavily armed or helped by the West, due to the diplomatic reasons) and 170 million Soviets.

    Soviets barely won that one, but would they have won if there 30 million Finns who were lavishly equipped by the West?

    LMAO – the bimbo, faux-Ukrop reject has landed. Your schizo, faux-ukrop sociopath self has with this comment:

    1. Praised a war , the winter war against the Finns, most notable from a contemporary perspective for the Finns following the exact OPPOSITE negotiating position with Russia, compared to the Ukrop deathcult position. Because of this difference – the Finns have a prosperous, demographically fine country………Banderastan has one condemned to destruction and failure. Extremely dumb to be trying to make the 2 wars similar.

    2. Praised a war, the Polish war against the Soviets…..most notable from a contemporary perspective as a war that if it succeeded as intended would have made EXTINCT the khokhol state and any future idea of a “Ukraine” you idiot

    So admiration, with a completely false understanding of what ACTUALLY happened, of a war that ridicules the current lemming ukronazi objectives……..and a war that would have killed the ukrop project. ……From a fantasist retard who has never been to Ukraine. You couldn’t make this sh*t up!

    As mentioned to your spamming scumbag self before – the Poles were fighting at a numerical advantage you dumb f**khead, caused by Soviet Union fighting about a million different wars at the time, mass civil disorder, an extreme civil war, no money, countries not recognising it ( so not willing to trade, with the Baltic export route only possible in 1920). Even the Baltic retards on here on not that dumb and sociopathic to misinform about their victory against the Soviets. So your numbers comparison is simply braindead.

    The Polish greedy, thief, coward-lowlifes initiated a war – even though the Provisional government, Lenin AND Denikin had all recognised the Polish state – in advance of many western states. Against near zero opposition in these chaotic circumstance, these parasites advanced all the way to Kiev. As soon as the Soviets started fighting them…….they incinerated Polish scum and forced them back a massive distance. Then , as now, US-Anglo-French weapons and money flooded into Poland. French aircraft, French Generals and western intelligence directing everything – and Soviets ( with most of the military not even motivated to reclaim Warsaw, and a practical man like Lenin, clearly willing to stop objective of a communist Poland) were driven back…..but with the end position being a massive net gain of territory reclaimed from the Poles, and Polish Nazi Empire ambitions destroyed. As for the ukrops in all of this…….LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

    The Winter War, the Finns stopped JUST as Soviets were about to wipe them away. Soviets had reversed the initial strong losses and were slaughtering the Finns, about to absolutely annihilate them …….at that point the Finns begged for peace, just like a sane people, one with some level of independence would. Then as now – the initial offer by Soviets ( receive twice as much land as give away, so Soviets have a safety zone from Nazi invasion, as proven correct) was a trillion times better then what the Finns got……..a loss of 10% of the country. Then as now – the moral and practical objectives of the Soviets were proven to be correct. A bimbo retard as yourself is too thick to understand that the Finns stopped just as Soviets were about to make use of this big population of military age advantage.

    The Finns were not a completely fake nation like Ukraine, but a very insecure national identity at that point……so like 404 now they needed some blood suffered to give the national identity PR an increase. They succeeded, inflicted Soviet losses and negotiated to protect the country for a century.

    Here for 404, because of western media full-spectrum control and BS…….they could have faked a PR victory, even though kill ratio’s in initial month ( and ever since) insanely high in Russia’s favour…….and negotiated a settlement about a million times better then what they will finish, if anything of then remains to negotiate with.
    A sick tragicomedy.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Gerard1234


    1. Praised a war , the winter war against the Finns, most notable from a contemporary perspective for the Finns following the exact OPPOSITE negotiating position with Russia, compared to the Ukrop deathcult position. Because of this difference – the Finns have a prosperous, demographically fine country………Banderastan has one condemned to destruction and failure. Extremely dumb to be trying to make the 2 wars similar.
     
    The Finns had more intelligent leadership in addition to not having someone like Boris Johnson influence them to foolishly fight on.

    This very recently released video with Ray McGovern and Matt Hoh adds some additional insight on the foolish Kiev regime stance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaq3FghN7t4

    Shifting gears, Larry Johnson at the UNSC:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXoZBn1hgpo
    , @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    the initial offer by Soviets
     
    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else, thus leaving Finland entirely unprotected later. Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of "world peace" and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all. Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.

    Just like RF most likely demanded to give up the most fortified UA lands in Donbas in 2022 thus leaving the country potentially defensively naked later against still mostly undamaged RF army, but UA also correctly decided it was better to inflict notable bloodletting for the aggressor forces - want take the land, then go massively hemorrhaging for it, instead of getting everything for free;)

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

  474. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    But this still doesn't explain why so many Russian speaking Ukrainians are being targeted by the guy who was supposed to save them? No wonder nobody in Ukraine ever welcomed Russian soldiers as heroes and liberators. No salt and bread, no roses. What's really going on here?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    But this still doesn’t explain why so many Russian speaking Ukrainians are being targeted by the guy who was supposed to save them? No wonder nobody in Ukraine ever welcomed Russian soldiers as heroes and liberators. No salt and bread, no roses. What’s really going on here?

    That guy didn’t want to se this happen unlike your guy Lindsey Graham who seems to be okay with Ukrainians dying for the purpose of trying to weaken Russia.

    Kiev regime military assets situated in such areas are being targeted. On your other point, they’ve to worry about what happens if the Kiev regime sees pro-Russian sentiment, in addition to maybe not feeling 100% secure about whether Russia will stay put. Nonetheless, Russia has been getting considerable support like in Mariupol on account of what the Kiev regime did there. Vladimir Saldo was elected three times as Kherson mayor before the SMO. In contrast, the Kiev regime installed an unelected mayor of Mariupol.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Kiev regime military assets situated in such areas are being targeted.
     
    Apartment buildings, power stations, hospitals, public theaters and shopping centers and even Ukrainian churches need to be destroyed in order to hit 'Kiev regime military assets", and here I thought it was evil disregard for human life and the ability to frighten civilians into a state of appeasing the barbaric invaders:

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/04/07/01828264f3461cd1c914d0bf94a6f99b.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp

    Russia has been getting considerable support like in Mariupol on account of what the Kiev regime did there.
     
    Quit lying Mickey. Ukrainians are well aware of who was responsible for the bulk of the distruction of Mariupol:

    https://youtu.be/ovEFg13n3TQ

    Replies: @Mikhail

  475. @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    You do realize that I was talking about the KPSS? Top leadership? Reading comprehension problems?

    I have no time to respond to human garbage such as yourself. Don't bother writing me. You're literally my dad's age and yet you try to tell me lies about life in my own country (which you know little about). This is beyond absurd. You'll be going down, skatertyu doroshka.

    Replies: @LatW, @Gerard1234

    See this is a great example of how the Russo-phile lies work:

    Beckow blurbs out some nonsense about how in the 1980s Slovakia “elderly women were in charge”;

    I confront him by asking “Oh, really? At the very top? No way. That’s not how it was in the USSR.”;

    Beckow tries to wriggle out of the clear lie (an unimportant one, but still a lie) by muttering something about “where I lived in the immediate leadership they were women”;

    I tell him that in the USSR it was men at the top and women at the lower rungs;

    Subject dropped (because it is boring without any further interesting details);

    Russian boomer garbage comes in and starts screaming about women in the private sector, accusing other people’s countries of who knows what, while completely ignoring that the original question was about the top Communist leadership in the 1980s.

    And it leads to nothing but negativity.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Beckow blurbs out some nonsense about how in the 1980s Slovakia “elderly women were in charge”;

    I confront him by asking “Oh, really? At the very top? No way. That’s not how it was in the USSR.”;
     
    I assumed he was talking about apparatchiks rather than nomenklatura.

    The middle is not the top, but the middle still has a lot of power on those below. Have heard there were some nasty middle-aged ladies in East Germany who would wield their power to take children from their parents and generally ruin people's lives.

    (Of course, this is not to say that East Germany was necessarily a more evil state than West, in the long-term.)

    In a similar way, today in America one can see a lot of black lady judges with no pretense of the law. They are not on top and likely never will be, but they are nevertheless powerful apparatchiks.

    Replies: @LatW

  476. @Philip Owen
    @YetAnotherAnon

    And yet Xi gave him an unscheduled audience with warm words about cooperation.

    Xi seems to tell his provincial governors what they want to hear. Recall Putin.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “And yet Xi gave him an unscheduled audience with warm words about cooperation.”

    Extremely sensible thing to do from a Chinese perspective. Why bring forward the inevitable? The longer China can stay onside with the US, the stronger they can become.

    But I did suggest in an earlier post that warm and meaningless waffle was quite possible:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/breaking-news-9/#comment-6533857

    “Now, China, you must stop supporting Russian war industry, so that when we’ve beaten them, we can turn against you”.

    “Mr Blinken, China at all times supports peaceful outcomes and co-operation between countries, and we understand and appreciate the concerns of the United States, which we fully take on board. Try these noodles, they’re delicious.”

    To think that in the 1950s China was in turmoil if not actual starvation, while the UK was building nuclear power stations and still was a great shipbuilding and manufacturing power. Heartbreaking to contemplate.

    How we have fallen, and how they have risen.

    • Replies: @A123
    @YetAnotherAnon



    “And yet Xi gave him an unscheduled audience with warm words about cooperation.”
     
    Extremely sensible thing to do from a Chinese perspective. Why bring forward the inevitable? The longer China can stay onside with the US, the stronger they can become.

    But I did suggest in an earlier post that warm and meaningless waffle was quite possible:
     
    The parallel between Netanyahu and Xi is quite striking. Israel also gave Blinken "warm and meaningless waffle". With Congressional assurances in evidence, strikes on genocidal Hamas terrorists in Rafah are beginning. Over the White House occupant's objections.

    And, these are only the two most visible examples. Every serious international leader expects the Veggie-In-Chief and his team to be gone in a few months.

    PEACE 😇
  477. @Beckow
    @Mikhail

    AP's modus operandi is to only see one side and when confronted to run away. Clero-fascists were the main Nazi collaborators who committed horrible crimes. After WW2 they found Jesus again and wanted all to be forgotten. Today they selectively recall only what was done to them as retribution.

    AP is a hopeless ideologue..

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Somewhat reminded of Motyl.

  478. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    Putin didn’t hate the West. Quite the opposite,
     
    Putin is typical for his generation in Russia: he had illusions about the West and despite everything remains relatively mild to it. The next Russian president will be much younger and a lot more anti-Western.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …The next Russian president will be much younger and a lot more anti-Western.

    That will also be true about next Western leaders…:)

    The gig is up, time to move on. Maybe they will just redefine what “Western” means and the next generation in Russia may fall for it again…

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Maybe they will just redefine what “Western” means and the next generation in Russia may fall for it again…
     
    They will certainly try that trick. Fool me once – shame on you, fool me twice – shame on me….
  479. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...The next Russian president will be much younger and a lot more anti-Western.
     
    That will also be true about next Western leaders...:)

    The gig is up, time to move on. Maybe they will just redefine what "Western" means and the next generation in Russia may fall for it again...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Maybe they will just redefine what “Western” means and the next generation in Russia may fall for it again…

    They will certainly try that trick. Fool me once – shame on you, fool me twice – shame on me….

  480. Russian infantry tries to remove anti-tank mine and learns important lesson

  481. @Derer
    @AP

    Get lost with your illiterate hogwash. Czechs are not even Catholics (11 %), the majority of population around 34.5% claim no religion (highest in Europe) and further 44.7% are undeclared. On the other hand Slovakia is land of Catholics similar to Hungary or Poland.


    Bishops and many priests were sentenced in show trials and often imprisoned in labor camps.
     
    That is true. When Stalin insisted on cleansing Communist party in Czechoslovakia in the early 50's (Slansky process) 14 members of the party leadership were "charged" and executed from that 12 were Jewish. There is the answer for vicious campaign against Catholics in post-war Slovakia.

    Replies: @AP

    Get lost with your illiterate hogwash. Czechs are not even Catholics

    Illiterate Derer didn’t even read that I was writing about Czechoslovakia, not only Czechia.

  482. @Beckow
    @AP

    The Usti University? No kidding, it is a small industrial shi..hole, do you have any idea where it is and how small it is? That "Minarik" guy is about as respectable as someone from a random Podunk University in Upper Volta. Or Kingsman, Arizona.

    I don't know him but he obviously lies for the cause of "oppressed church". Why do you misrepresent what he says: he counts any malcontent and alternative wannabe as a priest. By that standard there are thousands of underground priests in the US big cities mumbling about Jesus on street corners. Many are homeless or in jail - what a f...ing oppression of the "church" you have there?

    You got caught making up things and as always you escape into minutia and lies. "Professor Minarik", wow...sounds like a bad Hollywood flick about a hochstapler tricking old ladies out of inheritance.

    Replies: @AP

    The Usti University? No kidding, it is a small industrial shi..hole, do you have any idea where it is and how small it is? That “Minarik” guy is about as respectable as someone from a random Podunk University in Upper Volta

    So you compare a mediocre Czech University to one in sub-Saharan Africa.

    How about Slovak Universities?

    You realize that you are just debasing yourself further here.

    What about University of Turn where he got his doctorate?

    I don’t know him but he obviously lies

    A random internet liar claims that a university professor “obviously lies” when the information he writes completely contradicts what the liar claims.

    for the cause of “oppressed church”.

    So you claim institutions in Czechia support lying for the cause of an oppressed church.

    he counts any malcontent and alternative wannabe as a priest.

    Only ones ordained by the Catholic Church. Not any.

    Remember what the article was about.

    These are the priests he talked about when he counted 25% as being in the Underground Churuch:

    First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish.

    You got caught making up things

    I made nothing up, I posted information from a university professor in a peer-reviewed journal.

    You, the serial liar, made claims that contradicted the published material.

    It’s clear which information was true and which was false.

    Sorry for getting you caught making things up as usual.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Riiight, lots of empty words to hide that you don't know what you are talking about. You make up things to suit your biases.

    Czech underground priests in a country with empty churches on each corner. Czechs are atheist since at least the late 19th century. But a crazy Jesus-freak who "studied the Bible" is an "underground priest" - I have seen hundreds of these oppressed priests on the US streets.

    Because some 'professor Minarik' wrote it. Do you always worship academia? Do you believe that everything written by anyone at any third-rate US university is also true? How about Cleopatra being "black"? The 'Minarik' guy could move to do women-Afro studies at any US 'university' - same mentality, but you believe it, don't you?

    No you just pretend, because you got caught. Sad descent into autistic defensiveness. Take you pills.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    "What about University of *Turin* where he got his doctorate?"

    (Corrected typo.)

  483. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Mining old comments is internet bulletin board depravity.
     
    No doubt. But this should be addressed to AP. That’s what the AP personage is repeatedly doing. Makes me feel flattered: someone reads my comments intently enough to remember things I said ages ago. Wow!

    Replies: @AP

    Don’t flatter yourself too much.

    Sometimes you write some things that are so outlandish and dumb that they are easily remembered.

    • LOL: John Johnson
  484. @LatW
    @LatW

    See this is a great example of how the Russo-phile lies work:

    Beckow blurbs out some nonsense about how in the 1980s Slovakia "elderly women were in charge";

    I confront him by asking "Oh, really? At the very top? No way. That's not how it was in the USSR.";

    Beckow tries to wriggle out of the clear lie (an unimportant one, but still a lie) by muttering something about "where I lived in the immediate leadership they were women";

    I tell him that in the USSR it was men at the top and women at the lower rungs;

    Subject dropped (because it is boring without any further interesting details);

    Russian boomer garbage comes in and starts screaming about women in the private sector, accusing other people's countries of who knows what, while completely ignoring that the original question was about the top Communist leadership in the 1980s.

    And it leads to nothing but negativity.

    Replies: @songbird

    Beckow blurbs out some nonsense about how in the 1980s Slovakia “elderly women were in charge”;

    I confront him by asking “Oh, really? At the very top? No way. That’s not how it was in the USSR.”;

    I assumed he was talking about apparatchiks rather than nomenklatura.

    The middle is not the top, but the middle still has a lot of power on those below. Have heard there were some nasty middle-aged ladies in East Germany who would wield their power to take children from their parents and generally ruin people’s lives.

    (Of course, this is not to say that East Germany was necessarily a more evil state than West, in the long-term.)

    In a similar way, today in America one can see a lot of black lady judges with no pretense of the law. They are not on top and likely never will be, but they are nevertheless powerful apparatchiks.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    I assumed he was talking about apparatchiks rather than nomenklatura.
     
    This is the original quote from Beckow:

    "Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals – they quickly found new sponsors after 1989 among their fellow homo-liberal-Westies.:

    Our party leadership - assuming he was talking about the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia (was in power until 1991?). Or its branch the Slovak Communist Party.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Slovakia_(1939)

    It is clear without even looking that there was not a single female General Secretary - ever. Were there any in the party secretariat? Probably very few, if at all.

    This is because that's not how this system worked. It was the usual "bla bla bla" about "equality" that ends up with the men on top (not the brightest or the more moral ones even) and the women doing a ton of "dirty work", having less status.

    Same goes for the current "leadership" of RF, with very few females at the top. I'm not talking about whether this is "good" or "bad", just stating facts.

    Granted, one had to be a party member to hold any somewhat significant post (so these "elderly women" that Beckow mentions were probably Commie party members, even if low status ones).

    Replies: @songbird

  485. @Mikel
    @A123

    Thanks for that article. There are some good arguments there.

    Of course, there is no doubt Raskin would go ahead with his plan to disqualify Trump (though he'd lack the votes). That's not even as radical as what they're already doing with the five sham trials. To the extent that they think about provoking a civil confrontation at all, they probably reckon that it might be good for them. Provoke Trump followers to commit illegal acts and use the levers of power (that they control) to suppress them forever.

    Outrageous as the "fraud" trial was (has any politician ever in any part of the world received a $0.5B fine... using a novel interpretation of a law that had never been used before?), it's nothing compared to the remaining trials. Imagine yourself having to face 4 consecutive criminal trials and knowing that you're up against prosecutors, judges and jurors fully determined to send you to jail for the rest of your life in each of them. They're clearly trying to break the man. And to some extent or another, it will be a miracle if they don't succeed.

    But this actually reinforces my point. Trump is no shape to lead any ideological fight and he wasn't good at that even when he was younger and free of all these threats.


    You can say that Trump us an imperfect choice… But please tell me you realize he is the best and only choice that has a chance at defeating the Veggie-In-Chief this November
     
    Yes. But how much does that matter really? Jesse Kelly is capable of saying pretty moronic things but he has convinced me that the only elections that really matter at this point in time are the congressional primaries. As we keep seeing all the time, sending a Thomas Massie or a Chip Roy to Washington instead of a Diaz-Ballart or a Mike Johnson is much more consequential policy-wise than voting for Trump in November.

    Fortunately, there are lots of new candidates in all states running for Congress with MAGA or libertarian ideas. I see plenty cropping up in Utah, even though this is a RINO paradise. But unfortunately, most Republican voters aren't motivated enough to take part in the primaries, keep sending Establishment RINOs to DC and then plan on fixing everything by voting for savior Trump. Even more unfortunately, Trump keeps endorsing candidates that are _not_ MAGA and will surely betray his policies and possibly himself once in Washington. See Ann Coulter's latest column about that son of illegal Syrian immigrants that he's endorsing in Arizona.

    Replies: @A123

    As I have pointed out in the past. MAGA is much larger than Trump’s 2nd term. Indeed, it will take multiple Presidential administrations to fix the problems that took decades to create.

    there are lots of new candidates in all states running for Congress with MAGA or libertarian ideas

    Trump has been instrumental to this with endorsements, rallies, and fund raising. He personally called out the 10 worst RINO’s in the House. Eight of them retired abruptly or lost to MAGA candidates in the GOP primaries.

    Yes. Ten out of ten would have been better, but unrealistic short term demands are inherently unreasonable.

    Trump keeps endorsing candidates that are _not_ MAGA

    Where has Trump passed on an *electable* MAGA candidate? Extreme purity tests that lose seats are unhelpful. Alas, there are some districts were a softer message is required to win.

    How much better would the House be if the GOP had a larger margin? Unseating Santos, while attractive from the perspective of zealous purity, denied Johnson a vote. Was forcing him out for a Democrat replacement really the best call?

    Even if they are not ultra puritanical MAGA, Trump builds “soft power” with endorsements, rallies, and fund raising. This leverage can be used to bring wavering congressmen into line. Casting the right vote for a less than pure reason is sometimes the workable solution.

    Trump is no shape to lead any ideological fight

    Being the target of unprecedented persecution creates the perfect shape for a leader towards Justice Under the Law. He is attracting non-white, working class men at a rapid pace. Those who feel they have been unfairly targeted by Globalist state and corporate oppression are in play.

    For example, union members are telling Not-The-President Biden what they really think [MORE]. DNC intolerance, misbehaviour, and incompetence are driving voters to MAGA.

    This needs to be capitalized on in House, Senate, and Presidential races. Capitulation to anti-MAGA candidate RFKjr is highly destructive. It reduces the chances of MAGA wins down ballot. Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Derer
    @A123


    He (Trump) is attracting non-white, working class men at a rapid pace.
     
    Not good enough for the DNC perfected ballots counting system in the undecided states. Republicans did nothing about DNC cheating machine, in fact many are in jail (potentially Trump too) for complaining about the stolen election in 2020 to a corrupted feeble geriatric.
    , @Mikel
    @A123


    Extreme purity tests that lose seats are unhelpful.
     
    What is unhelpful is endorsing candidates because they said something about the "stolen election" while ignoring a long history of anti-MAGA positions. In the case I mentioned, support for Rubio's amnesty and for US military intervention in Syria. That guarantees a continuation of the swamp policies in DC, with or without Trump.

    Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.
     
    Not at all. One can perfectly vote for principled Congress candidates in the primaries and the general election if they win them, while voting for the best presidential candidate policy-wise, even if he belongs to a different party. I admit that the choice would be harder in battleground states if the polls stay as they are now but voting for Trump is voting for a man who is sure to surround himself by Establishment types once again.

    Besides, the main reason (if not the only one) to oppose the invasion at the border is to avoid the US becoming another banana republic in the future. But I don't know how much sense it makes to fight that battle when legacy Americans are already turning the US into a banana republic as we speak. While the Establishment prosecutes Trump with a 3rd World zealotry that would unimaginable (for now) in any other major Western country, the RINO speaker of the House agrees to fully fund the very institutions that are leading that prosecution, like the DOJ and the FBI. Whether Trump supports Johnson out of desperation or just because he's distracted is unimportant. He's just not capable of "draining the swamp" or implementing the changes that the MAGA voters want.

    Replies: @A123

  486. @Philip Owen
    @AP

    Kasyanov, then oil reversed the decline, not Putin. Putin's coup in February 2004 ousted Kasyanov in favour of Medveedev who disappointed but Putin returns loyalty. Mishustin is meant to become a Kasyanov clone but without EU and NATO aspirations.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    I am not a NEO Lib. I'm an original Liberal circa Keynes. More capitalist than Thatcher. Original globalist free trader. Liberty for small nations.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  487. @songbird
    @LatW


    Beckow blurbs out some nonsense about how in the 1980s Slovakia “elderly women were in charge”;

    I confront him by asking “Oh, really? At the very top? No way. That’s not how it was in the USSR.”;
     
    I assumed he was talking about apparatchiks rather than nomenklatura.

    The middle is not the top, but the middle still has a lot of power on those below. Have heard there were some nasty middle-aged ladies in East Germany who would wield their power to take children from their parents and generally ruin people's lives.

    (Of course, this is not to say that East Germany was necessarily a more evil state than West, in the long-term.)

    In a similar way, today in America one can see a lot of black lady judges with no pretense of the law. They are not on top and likely never will be, but they are nevertheless powerful apparatchiks.

    Replies: @LatW

    I assumed he was talking about apparatchiks rather than nomenklatura.

    This is the original quote from Beckow:

    Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals – they quickly found new sponsors after 1989 among their fellow homo-liberal-Westies.:

    Our party leadership – assuming he was talking about the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia (was in power until 1991?). Or its branch the Slovak Communist Party.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Slovakia_(1939)

    It is clear without even looking that there was not a single female General Secretary – ever. Were there any in the party secretariat? Probably very few, if at all.

    This is because that’s not how this system worked. It was the usual “bla bla bla” about “equality” that ends up with the men on top (not the brightest or the more moral ones even) and the women doing a ton of “dirty work”, having less status.

    Same goes for the current “leadership” of RF, with very few females at the top. I’m not talking about whether this is “good” or “bad”, just stating facts.

    Granted, one had to be a party member to hold any somewhat significant post (so these “elderly women” that Beckow mentions were probably Commie party members, even if low status ones).

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    It is clear without even looking that there was not a single female General Secretary – ever. Were there any in the party secretariat?
     
    Well, I don't want to get bogged down in a semantics debate, since I think it's really open to personal interpretation. But my wont is to include the lower rungs in any political system as part of the leadership.

    The US has never had a female president, but is indisputably a feminist society. More than 70% of Congress is male, but are the power structures really dominated by men, a product of testosterone?

    You can in fact be a man who has a lesbian boss who openly insults men and says it is her job to deconstruct the system that men made. These are the cadres. They would include things like political officers. And anyone on the wrong end of one would think they are important.

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    It's not necessarily very meaningful, but I think that the fact that the first two women in space were cosmonauts hints at the idea that the Soviet Union was more feminist than the US, at least up until that time. (I think it is more interesting to focus on the cores)

    IMO, it would be very interesting if someone could calculate the inflection point - when the US became more feminist than the USSR or Russia.

    https://youtu.be/NfvbOYtlThY?si=ofkOA-brAxplPjUo

    Replies: @LatW, @S1

  488. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    And in 1920 there were far more Russians than Poles.

    And in 1939 there were 4 million Finns (not heavily armed or helped by the West, due to the diplomatic reasons) and 170 million Soviets.

    Soviets barely won that one, but would they have won if there 30 million Finns who were lavishly equipped by the West?
     
    LMAO - the bimbo, faux-Ukrop reject has landed. Your schizo, faux-ukrop sociopath self has with this comment:

    1. Praised a war , the winter war against the Finns, most notable from a contemporary perspective for the Finns following the exact OPPOSITE negotiating position with Russia, compared to the Ukrop deathcult position. Because of this difference - the Finns have a prosperous, demographically fine country.........Banderastan has one condemned to destruction and failure. Extremely dumb to be trying to make the 2 wars similar.


    2. Praised a war, the Polish war against the Soviets.....most notable from a contemporary perspective as a war that if it succeeded as intended would have made EXTINCT the khokhol state and any future idea of a "Ukraine" you idiot

    So admiration, with a completely false understanding of what ACTUALLY happened, of a war that ridicules the current lemming ukronazi objectives........and a war that would have killed the ukrop project. ......From a fantasist retard who has never been to Ukraine. You couldn't make this sh*t up!

    As mentioned to your spamming scumbag self before - the Poles were fighting at a numerical advantage you dumb f**khead, caused by Soviet Union fighting about a million different wars at the time, mass civil disorder, an extreme civil war, no money, countries not recognising it ( so not willing to trade, with the Baltic export route only possible in 1920). Even the Baltic retards on here on not that dumb and sociopathic to misinform about their victory against the Soviets. So your numbers comparison is simply braindead.

    The Polish greedy, thief, coward-lowlifes initiated a war - even though the Provisional government, Lenin AND Denikin had all recognised the Polish state - in advance of many western states. Against near zero opposition in these chaotic circumstance, these parasites advanced all the way to Kiev. As soon as the Soviets started fighting them.......they incinerated Polish scum and forced them back a massive distance. Then , as now, US-Anglo-French weapons and money flooded into Poland. French aircraft, French Generals and western intelligence directing everything - and Soviets ( with most of the military not even motivated to reclaim Warsaw, and a practical man like Lenin, clearly willing to stop objective of a communist Poland) were driven back.....but with the end position being a massive net gain of territory reclaimed from the Poles, and Polish Nazi Empire ambitions destroyed. As for the ukrops in all of this.......LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

    The Winter War, the Finns stopped JUST as Soviets were about to wipe them away. Soviets had reversed the initial strong losses and were slaughtering the Finns, about to absolutely annihilate them .......at that point the Finns begged for peace, just like a sane people, one with some level of independence would. Then as now - the initial offer by Soviets ( receive twice as much land as give away, so Soviets have a safety zone from Nazi invasion, as proven correct) was a trillion times better then what the Finns got........a loss of 10% of the country. Then as now - the moral and practical objectives of the Soviets were proven to be correct. A bimbo retard as yourself is too thick to understand that the Finns stopped just as Soviets were about to make use of this big population of military age advantage.

    The Finns were not a completely fake nation like Ukraine, but a very insecure national identity at that point......so like 404 now they needed some blood suffered to give the national identity PR an increase. They succeeded, inflicted Soviet losses and negotiated to protect the country for a century.

    Here for 404, because of western media full-spectrum control and BS.......they could have faked a PR victory, even though kill ratio's in initial month ( and ever since) insanely high in Russia's favour.......and negotiated a settlement about a million times better then what they will finish, if anything of then remains to negotiate with.
    A sick tragicomedy.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @sudden death

    1. Praised a war , the winter war against the Finns, most notable from a contemporary perspective for the Finns following the exact OPPOSITE negotiating position with Russia, compared to the Ukrop deathcult position. Because of this difference – the Finns have a prosperous, demographically fine country………Banderastan has one condemned to destruction and failure. Extremely dumb to be trying to make the 2 wars similar.

    The Finns had more intelligent leadership in addition to not having someone like Boris Johnson influence them to foolishly fight on.

    This very recently released video with Ray McGovern and Matt Hoh adds some additional insight on the foolish Kiev regime stance:

    Shifting gears, Larry Johnson at the UNSC:

    • Thanks: Gerard1234
  489. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Philip Owen

    "And yet Xi gave him an unscheduled audience with warm words about cooperation."

    Extremely sensible thing to do from a Chinese perspective. Why bring forward the inevitable? The longer China can stay onside with the US, the stronger they can become.

    But I did suggest in an earlier post that warm and meaningless waffle was quite possible:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/breaking-news-9/#comment-6533857


    “Now, China, you must stop supporting Russian war industry, so that when we’ve beaten them, we can turn against you”.

    “Mr Blinken, China at all times supports peaceful outcomes and co-operation between countries, and we understand and appreciate the concerns of the United States, which we fully take on board. Try these noodles, they’re delicious.”
     

    To think that in the 1950s China was in turmoil if not actual starvation, while the UK was building nuclear power stations and still was a great shipbuilding and manufacturing power. Heartbreaking to contemplate.

    How we have fallen, and how they have risen.

    Replies: @A123

    “And yet Xi gave him an unscheduled audience with warm words about cooperation.”

    Extremely sensible thing to do from a Chinese perspective. Why bring forward the inevitable? The longer China can stay onside with the US, the stronger they can become.

    But I did suggest in an earlier post that warm and meaningless waffle was quite possible:

    The parallel between Netanyahu and Xi is quite striking. Israel also gave Blinken “warm and meaningless waffle”. With Congressional assurances in evidence, strikes on genocidal Hamas terrorists in Rafah are beginning. Over the White House occupant’s objections.

    And, these are only the two most visible examples. Every serious international leader expects the Veggie-In-Chief and his team to be gone in a few months.

    PEACE 😇

  490. @YetAnotherAnon
    Looks like Blinken got no joy in China:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-68905475

    US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has warned Washington will act if China does not stop supplying Russia with items used in its assault on Ukraine.

    Speaking to the BBC in Beijing, the US's top diplomat said he had made clear to his counterparts they were "helping fuel the biggest threat" to European security since the Cold War.

    He did not say what measures the US was prepared to take.

    But Mr Blinken was also keen to stress progress had been made in some areas.

    He praised Beijing for making efforts in stopping supplies of the drug fentanyl reaching the US.

    China remains the principal source of fentanyl for the US, which the White House has said is causing a public health crisis across the country.

    Mr Blinken also stressed he felt Beijing can play a "constructive" role in the Middle East, pointing towards China using "its relationship with Iran to urge" against further escalation in its confrontation with Israel.

    The visit - the second in 10 months made by Mr Blinken - forms part of a significant increase in dialogue and diplomacy between these rival powers as they attempt to put relations on an even keel after a period of immense tension last year.

    Relations between Washington and Beijing have been strained by China's claims over Taiwan and the South China Sea, and US export bans on advanced tech. They were further damaged by a row over a spy balloon last February.

    In recent days, the US passed a law that would force Chinese-owned TikTok to sell the hugely popular video app or be banned in America - something Mr Blinken earlier revealed had not come up in his meeting with China's President Xi Jinping.

    Mr Xi - who met Mr Blinken on Friday afternoon in Beijing's Great Hall of the People - agreed the two sides had "made some positive progress" since he met his US counterpart, Joe Biden, in November.

    He added the countries should "be partners, not rivals", saying that if the US took "a positive view of China's development", relations could "truly stabilise, get better and move forward".

    Mr Blinken told the BBC that one of the key routes for "better relations" between China and both the US and Europe would be for Beijing "or some of its enterprises" to stop providing "critical components" that help Russia make more munitions. The components include items such as "machine tools, micro-electronics, and optics".

    "It's helping Russia perpetuate its aggression against Ukraine, but it's also creating a growing threat to Europe because of Russia's aggression," he explained, adding it was "helping to fuel the biggest threat to [Europe's] insecurity since the end of the Cold War".

    "We've taken action already against Chinese entities that are engaged in this," he said. "And what I make clear today is that if China won't act, we will."

    Mr Blinken - who hinted at sanctions as a possible route - was keen to stress that China was not directly supplying Russia with weapons.
     

    Replies: @Derer

    US’s top diplomat (Blinken) said he had made clear to his counterparts they were “helping fuel the biggest threat” to European security since the Cold War.

    This moron lives in the US or perhaps in Israel too, but his main concern is European security. Yes, his main concern is selling arms (only functioning US industry) to stupid European weaklings. Russia pulled its army from Europe and abandoned Warsaw Pact and now would try to invade – Washington pathetic deceit.

    Beijing can play a “constructive” role in the Middle East, pointing towards China using “its relationship with Iran to urge” against further escalation

    Again, this moron does not know that for the escalation is responsible Israel and its milking cow the US taxpayers, easily deceived by the US national interest farce.

  491. @A123
    @Mikel

    As I have pointed out in the past. MAGA is much larger than Trump's 2nd term. Indeed, it will take multiple Presidential administrations to fix the problems that took decades to create.


    there are lots of new candidates in all states running for Congress with MAGA or libertarian ideas
     
    Trump has been instrumental to this with endorsements, rallies, and fund raising. He personally called out the 10 worst RINO's in the House. Eight of them retired abruptly or lost to MAGA candidates in the GOP primaries.

    Yes. Ten out of ten would have been better, but unrealistic short term demands are inherently unreasonable.


    Trump keeps endorsing candidates that are _not_ MAGA
     
    Where has Trump passed on an *electable* MAGA candidate? Extreme purity tests that lose seats are unhelpful. Alas, there are some districts were a softer message is required to win.

    How much better would the House be if the GOP had a larger margin? Unseating Santos, while attractive from the perspective of zealous purity, denied Johnson a vote. Was forcing him out for a Democrat replacement really the best call?

    Even if they are not ultra puritanical MAGA, Trump builds "soft power" with endorsements, rallies, and fund raising. This leverage can be used to bring wavering congressmen into line. Casting the right vote for a less than pure reason is sometimes the workable solution.


    Trump is no shape to lead any ideological fight
     
    Being the target of unprecedented persecution creates the perfect shape for a leader towards Justice Under the Law. He is attracting non-white, working class men at a rapid pace. Those who feel they have been unfairly targeted by Globalist state and corporate oppression are in play.

    For example, union members are telling Not-The-President Biden what they really think [MORE]. DNC intolerance, misbehaviour, and incompetence are driving voters to MAGA.

    This needs to be capitalized on in House, Senate, and Presidential races. Capitulation to anti-MAGA candidate RFKjr is highly destructive. It reduces the chances of MAGA wins down ballot. Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.

    PEACE 😇

    https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1783517791317864653?s=4

    Replies: @Derer, @Mikel

    He (Trump) is attracting non-white, working class men at a rapid pace.

    Not good enough for the DNC perfected ballots counting system in the undecided states. Republicans did nothing about DNC cheating machine, in fact many are in jail (potentially Trump too) for complaining about the stolen election in 2020 to a corrupted feeble geriatric.

  492. @A123
    @Mikel

    As I have pointed out in the past. MAGA is much larger than Trump's 2nd term. Indeed, it will take multiple Presidential administrations to fix the problems that took decades to create.


    there are lots of new candidates in all states running for Congress with MAGA or libertarian ideas
     
    Trump has been instrumental to this with endorsements, rallies, and fund raising. He personally called out the 10 worst RINO's in the House. Eight of them retired abruptly or lost to MAGA candidates in the GOP primaries.

    Yes. Ten out of ten would have been better, but unrealistic short term demands are inherently unreasonable.


    Trump keeps endorsing candidates that are _not_ MAGA
     
    Where has Trump passed on an *electable* MAGA candidate? Extreme purity tests that lose seats are unhelpful. Alas, there are some districts were a softer message is required to win.

    How much better would the House be if the GOP had a larger margin? Unseating Santos, while attractive from the perspective of zealous purity, denied Johnson a vote. Was forcing him out for a Democrat replacement really the best call?

    Even if they are not ultra puritanical MAGA, Trump builds "soft power" with endorsements, rallies, and fund raising. This leverage can be used to bring wavering congressmen into line. Casting the right vote for a less than pure reason is sometimes the workable solution.


    Trump is no shape to lead any ideological fight
     
    Being the target of unprecedented persecution creates the perfect shape for a leader towards Justice Under the Law. He is attracting non-white, working class men at a rapid pace. Those who feel they have been unfairly targeted by Globalist state and corporate oppression are in play.

    For example, union members are telling Not-The-President Biden what they really think [MORE]. DNC intolerance, misbehaviour, and incompetence are driving voters to MAGA.

    This needs to be capitalized on in House, Senate, and Presidential races. Capitulation to anti-MAGA candidate RFKjr is highly destructive. It reduces the chances of MAGA wins down ballot. Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.

    PEACE 😇

    https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1783517791317864653?s=4

    Replies: @Derer, @Mikel

    Extreme purity tests that lose seats are unhelpful.

    What is unhelpful is endorsing candidates because they said something about the “stolen election” while ignoring a long history of anti-MAGA positions. In the case I mentioned, support for Rubio’s amnesty and for US military intervention in Syria. That guarantees a continuation of the swamp policies in DC, with or without Trump.

    Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.

    Not at all. One can perfectly vote for principled Congress candidates in the primaries and the general election if they win them, while voting for the best presidential candidate policy-wise, even if he belongs to a different party. I admit that the choice would be harder in battleground states if the polls stay as they are now but voting for Trump is voting for a man who is sure to surround himself by Establishment types once again.

    Besides, the main reason (if not the only one) to oppose the invasion at the border is to avoid the US becoming another banana republic in the future. But I don’t know how much sense it makes to fight that battle when legacy Americans are already turning the US into a banana republic as we speak. While the Establishment prosecutes Trump with a 3rd World zealotry that would unimaginable (for now) in any other major Western country, the RINO speaker of the House agrees to fully fund the very institutions that are leading that prosecution, like the DOJ and the FBI. Whether Trump supports Johnson out of desperation or just because he’s distracted is unimportant. He’s just not capable of “draining the swamp” or implementing the changes that the MAGA voters want.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel



    Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.
     
    Not at all. One can perfectly vote for principled Congress candidates in the primaries and the general election if they win them, while voting for the best presidential candidate policy-wise, even if he belongs to a different party.
     
    Your hypothesis is catastrophically flawed -- "One Can" but history shows vast numbers "Do Not".

    Straight line party voting is a reality. Some jurisdictions even allow a single bubble to be checked to achieve 100% party voting in all races. Top of ballot, extremist, #NeverTrump votes for anti-MAGA RFKjr, will inevitably cascade down ballot to anti-MAGA candidates for Senate, House, state, and local offices.

    If you want MAGA to win with the system that actually exists in the upcoming election, you have only one realistic choice. You need to stop your RFKjr anti-MAGA zealotry. The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

  493. @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    You do realize that I was talking about the KPSS? Top leadership? Reading comprehension problems?

    I have no time to respond to human garbage such as yourself. Don't bother writing me. You're literally my dad's age and yet you try to tell me lies about life in my own country (which you know little about). This is beyond absurd. You'll be going down, skatertyu doroshka.

    Replies: @LatW, @Gerard1234

    You do realize that I was talking about the KPSS? Top leadership? Reading comprehension problems?

    Once again, useless shit-for-brain, your quote:

    Women were almost always in subordinate roles, mostly minor, lower leadership posts. You can still see that in the Russian Federation today.

    So for modern Russia……a lie, as usual from a tramp like you.

    For previous, Soviet Russia – totally misleading comment as women in top positions in politics, business, science, banking etc has been an extreme rarity in the west, in the US particularly , before 1991 and for most places still a long time after that. Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher were extremely unique cases you idiot. USSR/Warsaw pact was about the same as the west on female representation ( at worst). Here , just as in west, Health and Education and other social related departments were the ones more likely to have women leading.

    You could say that parity with the western numbers of woman is unacceptable because of the Soviet system and ethos , the form of feminism, number of women with high qualifications was set-up to have far more female leadership in it, than it did – that would be valid criticism…..not your drivel. I still believe that the car point is an important factor.

    No doubt western leadership had more of a collective element to it which greatly aided decision making, than the Soviet one. Ironic of course in view of the supposed individualist versus collectivist ideology of the systems supposed to be vice-versa. I think no doubt that nearly all the initial Soviet leadership either getting killed, or were attempted to get killed had a strong negative influence on all of this for the next 50, 60 years. It had to. That doesn’t change the fact that despite these obstacles…….the USSR was a huge success, miracle of a state fhat produced greatness, was a pleasure to live and work in, grow up as a child in, be educated in

    And the following recollection of Beckow was the EXACT same one I have had you cretin:

    elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types.

    You’re literally my dad’s age and yet you try to tell me lies about life in my own country (which you know little about).

    LOL – as you know, by “lies” you mean – detailed, comprehensive, truth. And by “know little about” you mean “know too much” – useless eunuch reject idiot. The perfect world for trash like you is where everyone thinks Bucharest is in Latvia……that’s the level of ignorance that trash like you wants people to have, so that the Nazi POS state of Latvia can do its Nazi sh*t actions facing zero pressure.

  494. Twenty minute exchange at this link:

    https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/mark-sleboda-pro-war-propagandist?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    Introductory Excerpt –

    In which I am interviewed by the fruit loop Romanian “feminist pacifist” Maria Cernat from East European faux-lefty outfit “The Barricade”. She is vehemently against the Russian government and the Russian intervention in the Ukrainian Civil Conflict and believes that the Banderite fascists in power in Kiev should have been talked out of massacring the people of East Ukraine and indoctrinating the people of Ukraine to their hateful ideology. The primary purpose of the interview from her end was to attack the recent Russian Presidential Elections and Russian democracy (which is really rich coming from an American Europoean vassal state).

    She is the perfect roll over and play dead dupe for fascists and US-led Western Global Military Hegemony. She really really didn’t like the one hour and forty minute interview we did because it makes her look like a raving ninny disconnected from reality, tells me she won’t release the video, and then releases a carelully edited 20 minute version of it anyway with only Romanian titles & commentary – calling the video an interview with a “pro-war propagandist”. Ok. Whatever. That’s class for you.

    Her commentary on the video Google Translated from Romanian:

    ”I had become so well used to the labels of Putinist, pro-Russian, traitor and the like that it was a novel experience to meet a pro-Russian propagandist of the hardest line. It’s about Mark Sleboda. After a career in the US Army, he takes a job as an “expert” at Russia Today. Then, suddenly struck by love for Russia, he emigrates and gets married there, using his discursive skills to support the Kremlin’s cause through all channels. Although he got his citizenship less than ten years ago, he claims to be more Russian than the Russians themselves, at least in demonizing the west. We, the Romanians, are considered members of “a client country of the United States” that has no right to express critical views against Russia.

    We had a tense discussion, much of which can be found in the video below. I pulled out the pure propaganda parts about the “humanity” Russia is fighting and other information I couldn’t verify.

    I left the quintessence of his views as a pro-war propagandist. Obviously, he agrees that Russia will not be able to rule western Ukraine because “the cult of Bandera is strong” there. And then? Why did hundreds of thousands of people die, Russians and Ukrainians? For Russia to deal a death blow to the Western hegemon.”

    Please let Maria Cernat know what you think in the comment section of the edited YouTube Video she posted. Demand she release the whole video if you would like to see the other 1 hour and twenty minutes.
    Or email her your thoughts at [email protected]

    *UPDATE – After every single comment on her own edited redacted video posting on Youtube of our interview was critical of her and her position on Russia and the SMO, Maria Cernat has deleted all the comments and turned off comments. PATHETIC.

    So if you want to let Maria Cernat know your thoughts on this, you will have to email her at [email protected]
    Please do.

  495. A123 says: • Website
    @Mikel
    @A123


    Extreme purity tests that lose seats are unhelpful.
     
    What is unhelpful is endorsing candidates because they said something about the "stolen election" while ignoring a long history of anti-MAGA positions. In the case I mentioned, support for Rubio's amnesty and for US military intervention in Syria. That guarantees a continuation of the swamp policies in DC, with or without Trump.

    Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.
     
    Not at all. One can perfectly vote for principled Congress candidates in the primaries and the general election if they win them, while voting for the best presidential candidate policy-wise, even if he belongs to a different party. I admit that the choice would be harder in battleground states if the polls stay as they are now but voting for Trump is voting for a man who is sure to surround himself by Establishment types once again.

    Besides, the main reason (if not the only one) to oppose the invasion at the border is to avoid the US becoming another banana republic in the future. But I don't know how much sense it makes to fight that battle when legacy Americans are already turning the US into a banana republic as we speak. While the Establishment prosecutes Trump with a 3rd World zealotry that would unimaginable (for now) in any other major Western country, the RINO speaker of the House agrees to fully fund the very institutions that are leading that prosecution, like the DOJ and the FBI. Whether Trump supports Johnson out of desperation or just because he's distracted is unimportant. He's just not capable of "draining the swamp" or implementing the changes that the MAGA voters want.

    Replies: @A123

    Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.

    Not at all. One can perfectly vote for principled Congress candidates in the primaries and the general election if they win them, while voting for the best presidential candidate policy-wise, even if he belongs to a different party.

    Your hypothesis is catastrophically flawed — “One Can” but history shows vast numbers “Do Not”.

    Straight line party voting is a reality. Some jurisdictions even allow a single bubble to be checked to achieve 100% party voting in all races. Top of ballot, extremist, #NeverTrump votes for anti-MAGA RFKjr, will inevitably cascade down ballot to anti-MAGA candidates for Senate, House, state, and local offices.

    If you want MAGA to win with the system that actually exists in the upcoming election, you have only one realistic choice. You need to stop your RFKjr anti-MAGA zealotry. The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    If you want MAGA to win with the system that actually exists in the upcoming election, you have only one realistic choice. You need to stop your RFKjr anti-MAGA zealotry. The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.

    You really are my favorite MAGA caricature.

    Your endless support for Trump is quite amusing.

    The way you depict any opposition as "never Trump" shows your dedication to primitive tribalism but in a modern society. White men can be just like Africans in how they rally around the Big Man of the tribe even if he occasionally eats them.

    Your real estate con artist who was a Democrat most of his life schemed with his lawyer to create an illegal payoff system. They created an elaborate backdoor payoff scheme that included a shell company to pay a porn star and anyone else that might have a dirty story on Trump.

    For such a scheme to work you have to trust your lawyer. Well that is out as the lawyer has already pleaded guilty to breaking campaign finance laws.

    I'm still not sure how Trump plans on playing this case. Is he hoping for some type of presidential immunity for life? His ex-lawyer ratted on him and explained the scheme.

    But here is the kicker: The classified documents case is still the worst.

    Yet here you are still wearing your stupid red hat and waving pom-poms for a NYC slumlord.

    You really are MAGA the clown:

    https://media.tenor.com/WLo83Ft2kSoAAAAe/honkler-clown-world.png

    , @Mikel
    @A123


    The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.
     
    Nonsense. You look unaware of the situation around you. RFK is polling in the double digits. In some states he's got something like 22%. Since he has no party, that means that millions of Americans right now are planning to vote for congressional candidates of a different party than their presidential choice, as I am suggesting.

    I don't think he has any prospect of winning the election but his numbers could go higher as fatigue with the major party candidates grows. All polls show that a big majority of Americans would prefer a different choice than the same they were offered in 2020. RFK could channel a big protest vote similar to what Trump himself did in 2016. But there's also a possibility of the sham trials mobilizing a good part of the electorate against the Establishment and voting for Trump out of spite, just like in 2016. I may even go that route eventually if it keeps getting as grotesque as it is now, we'll see.

    Trump is his worst enemy for people like me though. I'm pretty sure that he actually prefers docile yes-men like Mike Johnson who go visit him in Mar-a-Lago to respectfully request permission to enact swampy policies rather than the more principled types like Massie or Roy, who may oppose him on ideological grounds. He probably thinks that it was Tucker or Coulter who betrayed him when they criticized his policies while he was in the White House, rather than his real enemies. Like I said, no sooner had Johnson surrendered in the House than he was campaigning in Texas for the man who voted to impeach Trump.

    Replies: @A123

  496. @Derer
    @AP

    Why the hell you oppose anything that favour Russia and without any substantial argument...all just superficial nonsense. Russia is going nowhere it will remain big and rich with abundance of natural resource - has a great future.

    So far the simpleminded hawks from Washington are able to partially retard the expected progress in Russia after 75 years of communist tyranny but not for long, they themselves are going the opposite direction, regressing. I know, I am witnessing the work of "great" minds like Biden, Blinken or Schumer.

    Replies: @AP, @Greasy William

    Russia is going nowhere it will remain big and rich with abundance of natural resource – has a great future

    Not a Russophobe, but I really don’t think so.

    I do think they are gonna win this war pretty shortly, however

  497. @A123
    @Mikel



    Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.
     
    Not at all. One can perfectly vote for principled Congress candidates in the primaries and the general election if they win them, while voting for the best presidential candidate policy-wise, even if he belongs to a different party.
     
    Your hypothesis is catastrophically flawed -- "One Can" but history shows vast numbers "Do Not".

    Straight line party voting is a reality. Some jurisdictions even allow a single bubble to be checked to achieve 100% party voting in all races. Top of ballot, extremist, #NeverTrump votes for anti-MAGA RFKjr, will inevitably cascade down ballot to anti-MAGA candidates for Senate, House, state, and local offices.

    If you want MAGA to win with the system that actually exists in the upcoming election, you have only one realistic choice. You need to stop your RFKjr anti-MAGA zealotry. The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

    If you want MAGA to win with the system that actually exists in the upcoming election, you have only one realistic choice. You need to stop your RFKjr anti-MAGA zealotry. The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.

    You really are my favorite MAGA caricature.

    Your endless support for Trump is quite amusing.

    The way you depict any opposition as “never Trump” shows your dedication to primitive tribalism but in a modern society. White men can be just like Africans in how they rally around the Big Man of the tribe even if he occasionally eats them.

    Your real estate con artist who was a Democrat most of his life schemed with his lawyer to create an illegal payoff system. They created an elaborate backdoor payoff scheme that included a shell company to pay a porn star and anyone else that might have a dirty story on Trump.

    For such a scheme to work you have to trust your lawyer. Well that is out as the lawyer has already pleaded guilty to breaking campaign finance laws.

    I’m still not sure how Trump plans on playing this case. Is he hoping for some type of presidential immunity for life? His ex-lawyer ratted on him and explained the scheme.

    But here is the kicker: The classified documents case is still the worst.

    Yet here you are still wearing your stupid red hat and waving pom-poms for a NYC slumlord.

    You really are MAGA the clown:

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  498. S1 says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @S1

    Excellent substantive and thought-provoking comment (very rare on this thread).

    Propaganda or brainwashing? Distinction without a difference.

    I did not read the book, but I see a critical omission in your excerpt. The real rulers are not propagandists/brainwashers, but those who own and direct them. The same people own and direct the government (which in the US includes the President, his cabinet, and Congress). Both MSM and the government are pretty expensive. Only those who are stealing huge amounts of public funds (that’s hundreds of billions in the US) can afford to own propagandists (and MSM spreading their propaganda) and the government. Owning and directing MSM and the government maintains their opportunities to steal massive amounts of public money and keep this gravy train going. This is a positive feedback loop. Positive feedback eventually makes any system crash and burn. That’s the tendency we are observing in the US now.

    The weakness of this system is that the people who own MSM and the government are not one person or even an organization. These people would gladly steal from each other and cut each other’s throats. E.g., the animosity of a big part of the establishment to Trump and Musk illustrates disunity of thieves. Infighting among thieves gives the US hope.

    We can only observe this from sidelines. But we can root for them all to exterminate each other. That’s the only chance to save the country.

    Replies: @S1, @S1

    Owning and directing MSM and the government maintains their opportunities to steal massive amounts of public money and keep this gravy train going. This is a positive feedback loop. Positive feedback eventually makes any system crash and burn.

    This is a valid point.

    Their inability to tolerate necessary constructive criticism (note: not bashing) has created a real blindness on these people’s part, like a ship not making the appropriate periodic course corrections. Such an improperly captained ship of state will eventually (as a matter of course) run aground, as the US/UK is in the process of doing.

    Hopefully there will be something left of the world after all is said and done.

  499. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack


    But this still doesn’t explain why so many Russian speaking Ukrainians are being targeted by the guy who was supposed to save them? No wonder nobody in Ukraine ever welcomed Russian soldiers as heroes and liberators. No salt and bread, no roses. What’s really going on here?
     
    That guy didn't want to se this happen unlike your guy Lindsey Graham who seems to be okay with Ukrainians dying for the purpose of trying to weaken Russia.

    Kiev regime military assets situated in such areas are being targeted. On your other point, they've to worry about what happens if the Kiev regime sees pro-Russian sentiment, in addition to maybe not feeling 100% secure about whether Russia will stay put. Nonetheless, Russia has been getting considerable support like in Mariupol on account of what the Kiev regime did there. Vladimir Saldo was elected three times as Kherson mayor before the SMO. In contrast, the Kiev regime installed an unelected mayor of Mariupol.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Kiev regime military assets situated in such areas are being targeted.

    Apartment buildings, power stations, hospitals, public theaters and shopping centers and even Ukrainian churches need to be destroyed in order to hit ‘Kiev regime military assets”, and here I thought it was evil disregard for human life and the ability to frighten civilians into a state of appeasing the barbaric invaders:

    Russia has been getting considerable support like in Mariupol on account of what the Kiev regime did there.

    Quit lying Mickey. Ukrainians are well aware of who was responsible for the bulk of the distruction of Mariupol:

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Quite projecting your disinformation Hacky

    Neo-Nazi Azov went in Mariupol and terrorized the population. Even then, I recall a BBC segment, where the reporter lashed out against the pro-Russian sentiment of the folks he featured, suggesting he knew better. (Brit arrogance can be especially obnoxious.) This was prior to the SMO.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  500. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    Kiev regime military assets situated in such areas are being targeted.
     
    Apartment buildings, power stations, hospitals, public theaters and shopping centers and even Ukrainian churches need to be destroyed in order to hit 'Kiev regime military assets", and here I thought it was evil disregard for human life and the ability to frighten civilians into a state of appeasing the barbaric invaders:

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/04/07/01828264f3461cd1c914d0bf94a6f99b.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp

    Russia has been getting considerable support like in Mariupol on account of what the Kiev regime did there.
     
    Quit lying Mickey. Ukrainians are well aware of who was responsible for the bulk of the distruction of Mariupol:

    https://youtu.be/ovEFg13n3TQ

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Quite projecting your disinformation Hacky

    Neo-Nazi Azov went in Mariupol and terrorized the population. Even then, I recall a BBC segment, where the reporter lashed out against the pro-Russian sentiment of the folks he featured, suggesting he knew better. (Brit arrogance can be especially obnoxious.) This was prior to the SMO.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    "neo-Nazi Azov" were comprised mostly of Ukrainians from Eastern Ukraine and stayed put in their ancestral lands to defend Mariupol from the encroachment of Russian surrogates. You don't have to rely on your own memory or arrogant BBC reporters, just watch the video I've enclosed above featuring the accounts of eye-witness civilians from Mariupol.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @Mikhail

  501. Sher Singh says:
    @songbird
    @Sher Singh

    Am too lazy to look it up, but I thought Tolkien said he admired Jews and based Dwarves on them because he appreciated their war-like nature.

    Anyway, isn't it always the US (one of the most warlike countries) trying to hold Israel back?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Sher Singh


    Surprised how much small details matter.
    If u tie paracord & stop that bit at the end from dangling free the handling changes massively.

    With the free hang the momentum from one strike carries over to the next.
    It almost flies out of your hands without gloves.

    [MORE]

    Locked down like this & it’s almost a boring feeling blade similar to my old Talwar.

    Look brhe, Jesus rode a donkey.

    Being war-like in a soldierly fashion ain’t the same as having a harem.

    Monogamy is almost sexist because by destroying harems & clans the only female institution left is the brothel.

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Sher Singh

    https://gallery30south.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Pool-y-Marianela_24-KALI-e1570842444606.jpg

  502. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    And in 1920 there were far more Russians than Poles.

    And in 1939 there were 4 million Finns (not heavily armed or helped by the West, due to the diplomatic reasons) and 170 million Soviets.

    Soviets barely won that one, but would they have won if there 30 million Finns who were lavishly equipped by the West?
     
    LMAO - the bimbo, faux-Ukrop reject has landed. Your schizo, faux-ukrop sociopath self has with this comment:

    1. Praised a war , the winter war against the Finns, most notable from a contemporary perspective for the Finns following the exact OPPOSITE negotiating position with Russia, compared to the Ukrop deathcult position. Because of this difference - the Finns have a prosperous, demographically fine country.........Banderastan has one condemned to destruction and failure. Extremely dumb to be trying to make the 2 wars similar.


    2. Praised a war, the Polish war against the Soviets.....most notable from a contemporary perspective as a war that if it succeeded as intended would have made EXTINCT the khokhol state and any future idea of a "Ukraine" you idiot

    So admiration, with a completely false understanding of what ACTUALLY happened, of a war that ridicules the current lemming ukronazi objectives........and a war that would have killed the ukrop project. ......From a fantasist retard who has never been to Ukraine. You couldn't make this sh*t up!

    As mentioned to your spamming scumbag self before - the Poles were fighting at a numerical advantage you dumb f**khead, caused by Soviet Union fighting about a million different wars at the time, mass civil disorder, an extreme civil war, no money, countries not recognising it ( so not willing to trade, with the Baltic export route only possible in 1920). Even the Baltic retards on here on not that dumb and sociopathic to misinform about their victory against the Soviets. So your numbers comparison is simply braindead.

    The Polish greedy, thief, coward-lowlifes initiated a war - even though the Provisional government, Lenin AND Denikin had all recognised the Polish state - in advance of many western states. Against near zero opposition in these chaotic circumstance, these parasites advanced all the way to Kiev. As soon as the Soviets started fighting them.......they incinerated Polish scum and forced them back a massive distance. Then , as now, US-Anglo-French weapons and money flooded into Poland. French aircraft, French Generals and western intelligence directing everything - and Soviets ( with most of the military not even motivated to reclaim Warsaw, and a practical man like Lenin, clearly willing to stop objective of a communist Poland) were driven back.....but with the end position being a massive net gain of territory reclaimed from the Poles, and Polish Nazi Empire ambitions destroyed. As for the ukrops in all of this.......LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

    The Winter War, the Finns stopped JUST as Soviets were about to wipe them away. Soviets had reversed the initial strong losses and were slaughtering the Finns, about to absolutely annihilate them .......at that point the Finns begged for peace, just like a sane people, one with some level of independence would. Then as now - the initial offer by Soviets ( receive twice as much land as give away, so Soviets have a safety zone from Nazi invasion, as proven correct) was a trillion times better then what the Finns got........a loss of 10% of the country. Then as now - the moral and practical objectives of the Soviets were proven to be correct. A bimbo retard as yourself is too thick to understand that the Finns stopped just as Soviets were about to make use of this big population of military age advantage.

    The Finns were not a completely fake nation like Ukraine, but a very insecure national identity at that point......so like 404 now they needed some blood suffered to give the national identity PR an increase. They succeeded, inflicted Soviet losses and negotiated to protect the country for a century.

    Here for 404, because of western media full-spectrum control and BS.......they could have faked a PR victory, even though kill ratio's in initial month ( and ever since) insanely high in Russia's favour.......and negotiated a settlement about a million times better then what they will finish, if anything of then remains to negotiate with.
    A sick tragicomedy.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @sudden death

    the initial offer by Soviets

    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else, thus leaving Finland entirely unprotected later. Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of “world peace” and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all. Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.

    Just like RF most likely demanded to give up the most fortified UA lands in Donbas in 2022 thus leaving the country potentially defensively naked later against still mostly undamaged RF army, but UA also correctly decided it was better to inflict notable bloodletting for the aggressor forces – want take the land, then go massively hemorrhaging for it, instead of getting everything for free;)

    • Agree: AP
    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @AP
    @sudden death

    Excellent response. The only purpose for Gerard is to sometimes elicit comments such as yours.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Gerard1234

    , @Beckow
    @sudden death


    ...Finns saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight
     
    Finns fought on the Nazi side - they were fighting on the German Nazi side. Are you proud? It is illegal to promote Nazism in a number of Euro countries, so enjoy for now.

    Finns were saved by the Russian generosity after WW2 - Finland signed a treaty to be neutral and have normal relations with Russia. They broke that treaty. Now they have the Russian nukes aiming at Helsinki with a 5-minute flight time. Finns are quite the geniuses - and almost as ungrateful as the Poles.

    A few years from now they will bitterly regret their current hysteria as they did in the past.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Gerard1234
    @sudden death

    LMAO - for those unsure of the history - this f**khead wakjob is (falsely) praising Finland 80 years before....with a complete misreading of events........and as a Lithuanian retard is amazingly without any irony doing this , even though his shithole of a country was the most ANTI-Finland in philosophy to dealing with requests from other countries.


    Finns correctly did everything
     
    That is the same Soviets during this time who gave Lithuanian Nazis, Vilnius (taken from Poland), Klaipeda ( taken from Germany when could EASILY have transferred it to Russia as part of Kaliningrad), and Druskininkai from Belarus. That's in addition to Soviets changing their opinion over 20 years of the land being a Lithuanian-Belarus SSR - to one solely a Lithuanian SSR. A nothing ethnicity, very agrarian society at the time.....Soviets could have easily kept it as Lithuanian-Belarus SSR and have done at the time the same mixed ethnicity states as in the Caucasus and central Asia.....and nobody ( except Belarussians) would have given a f**k - especially Lithuanian earthworms.

    Polish Nazi's , under threat of war in 1938, demanded Lithuanian Nazis recognised Vilnius as part of Poland , and LMAO - this is Vilnius that had by then been in full control and lived in by Poles for 2 decades.
    German Nazi's, under threat of war in 38/39, demanded Lithuanian Nazis gave them Klaipeda. Lithuanian Nazi rejects very happily did. So Lithuania were a (homo) cuckhold of the Poles, Nazis and ( to their benefit) Russia.

    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else

     

    It's only because of the POLITICAL decision that those defences become "strategic" you dumbf**k idiot. As a decision of the circumstances of the time, as a decision looking on retrospect on how events subsequently happened, as a decision on a moral view.......that political decision that lead to those "strategic' defences were dumb, FAILURES and evil you sick fu*k. And of course proved the Soviets 100% correct when the Finnish Nazis together with the German Nazi's did invade USSR together, just as anticipated would occur.

    Soviets in 20 years from 1920-1940 do absolutely NOTHING to change border with Finland you retarded dimwit.

    Soviets from 1946 -now do absolutely NOTHING to change border with Finland you retarded dimwit

    Soviets from 1920-1940 do absolutely NOTHING to change border with about a million different other countries you retarded dimwit ( maybe something with Japan, but nothing European)

    Tsarist Russia does nothing but great things for Finland for 200 years you retarded dimwit.

    That is in addition to everybody accepting European communism wasn't going to happen

    These defensive fortifications were very simple engineering if you look at them- natural barrier itself far more important. And of course Soviets DID smash through them you idiot, would have taken masses of land, before the Finns begged for settlement.

    In that context WTF does an enemy, ideologically opposite state have to do with this you retard?:

    Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of “world peace” and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all
     
    British and other forced Czechoslovakia to accept that aggreement. Brits and others were very much involved with Finland Nazis refusing Soviet generous offer. How can Soviet behaviour be equated with Nazis immediate behavior to developed as soon as Hitler became Chancellor?

    Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.
     
    ermmm...... War against Finnish faggots was literally a fraction of the casualties as that suffered in Leningrad BY ITSELF you retard . Again, with the Soviets chasing the Nazis back through Europe to the west for 2 years, liberating 100s of towns and cities you worthless POS, much more casualties happened for these heroes of course - far in excess of what happened in Finland. Further justification of Winter War

    Summary - "order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight" has absolutely ZERO truth or logic to it. Finland Nazis were saved TWICE by Soviet mercy - both times just about to annihilate them , and the Finns conceded.

    And LOL - CLEARLY the Finns were the aggressor from 1941 afterwards you thick POS. Finland Nazis lost alot more dead Finns AFTER Winter war , than before it.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Beckow

  503. Is there a horse or camel equivalent to the Iditarod? Can’t find anything remotely similar to the distance.

    Probably the qualities to win any such race would have a strong environmental component. But such a race would be interesting for testing the idea that there are certain body types that endurance riding favors, or even that certain peoples might have riding adaptations.

  504. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Quite projecting your disinformation Hacky

    Neo-Nazi Azov went in Mariupol and terrorized the population. Even then, I recall a BBC segment, where the reporter lashed out against the pro-Russian sentiment of the folks he featured, suggesting he knew better. (Brit arrogance can be especially obnoxious.) This was prior to the SMO.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    “neo-Nazi Azov” were comprised mostly of Ukrainians from Eastern Ukraine and stayed put in their ancestral lands to defend Mariupol from the encroachment of Russian surrogates. You don’t have to rely on your own memory or arrogant BBC reporters, just watch the video I’ve enclosed above featuring the accounts of eye-witness civilians from Mariupol.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Troll: Derer
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/16469862_web1_web_rmz-may18.jpg

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ..Russian surrogates.
     
    What is a Russian surrogate? Are Russians who have lived there for 200 years or people who speak Russian surrogates? You seem to suggest they can be killed or expelled because they don't belong there - they are only surrogates. Pretty sick.

    Mariupol was majority Russian and completely Russian speaking - it was the Ukies nationalists who were the occupiers there.

    Are there also French surrogates in Canada? Mexican surrogates in Arizona? What hatred does to you... no wonder you are losing so badly...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    , @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    And Matviyenko is originally from Shepetivka.

  505. @Sher Singh
    @songbird

    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/777361459130138627/1233716753503096953/IMG_20240427_031015.png?ex=662e1bc3&is=662cca43&hm=bcec575b0862d7dac42997564469e07fc9a0171ef4a4a65e9d1c29838a056db1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=507&height=676

    Surprised how much small details matter.
    If u tie paracord & stop that bit at the end from dangling free the handling changes massively.

    With the free hang the momentum from one strike carries over to the next.
    It almost flies out of your hands without gloves.


    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/777361459130138627/1233716751766913055/e4e21239-7e82-465f-9ad6-088fde2a7a4e.png?ex=662e1bc2&is=662cca42&hm=936fae1dc5cc830a9c5b0746aea5c3f158a1541244253fc93a085fe882b4cf2d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=507&height=676

    Locked down like this & it's almost a boring feeling blade similar to my old Talwar.

    Look brhe, Jesus rode a donkey.

    Being war-like in a soldierly fashion ain't the same as having a harem.

    Monogamy is almost sexist because by destroying harems & clans the only female institution left is the brothel.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  506. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    "neo-Nazi Azov" were comprised mostly of Ukrainians from Eastern Ukraine and stayed put in their ancestral lands to defend Mariupol from the encroachment of Russian surrogates. You don't have to rely on your own memory or arrogant BBC reporters, just watch the video I've enclosed above featuring the accounts of eye-witness civilians from Mariupol.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @Mikhail

    • Troll: Derer
  507. The above cartoon gave me an opportunity to see what Ramirez has been up to lately. His subtle humor reminds me of the old adage, “walk softly but carry a big stick”:

    [MORE]

    Have you been grocery shopping lately?

    Wasn’t Mike Averko recently seen going to bat for MTG?

  508. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    "neo-Nazi Azov" were comprised mostly of Ukrainians from Eastern Ukraine and stayed put in their ancestral lands to defend Mariupol from the encroachment of Russian surrogates. You don't have to rely on your own memory or arrogant BBC reporters, just watch the video I've enclosed above featuring the accounts of eye-witness civilians from Mariupol.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @Mikhail

    ..Russian surrogates.

    What is a Russian surrogate? Are Russians who have lived there for 200 years or people who speak Russian surrogates? You seem to suggest they can be killed or expelled because they don’t belong there – they are only surrogates. Pretty sick.

    Mariupol was majority Russian and completely Russian speaking – it was the Ukies nationalists who were the occupiers there.

    Are there also French surrogates in Canada? Mexican surrogates in Arizona? What hatred does to you… no wonder you are losing so badly…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Are Russians who have lived there for 200 years or people who speak Russian surrogates?
     
    So why is Russian war strategy so indifferent to the destruction of civilian lives and targets within these areas? Why are so many Russians used in the fighting of this war? How many more battalions of Chechens are needed within Ukraine for you to admit that the impetus for the fighting is coming from outside of Ukraine?

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Mariupol was majority Russian and completely Russian speaking – it was the Ukies nationalists who were the occupiers there.

    So you are saying that Russia should justifiably occupy it since it was once majority Russian?

    Does that mean they cannot justifiably occupy areas that have been majority Ukrainian or were in the past?

    You do acknowledge that most Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for Zelensky and not any of the pro-Russian candidates in the last election?

    Do you think most Russian speaking Ukrainians support Russia's invasion?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikhail

  509. @AP
    @Beckow


    The Usti University? No kidding, it is a small industrial shi..hole, do you have any idea where it is and how small it is? That “Minarik” guy is about as respectable as someone from a random Podunk University in Upper Volta
     
    So you compare a mediocre Czech University to one in sub-Saharan Africa.

    How about Slovak Universities?

    You realize that you are just debasing yourself further here.

    What about University of Turn where he got his doctorate?

    I don’t know him but he obviously lies
     
    A random internet liar claims that a university professor "obviously lies" when the information he writes completely contradicts what the liar claims.

    for the cause of “oppressed church”.
     
    So you claim institutions in Czechia support lying for the cause of an oppressed church.

    he counts any malcontent and alternative wannabe as a priest.
     
    Only ones ordained by the Catholic Church. Not any.

    Remember what the article was about.

    These are the priests he talked about when he counted 25% as being in the Underground Churuch:

    First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish.

    You got caught making up things
     
    I made nothing up, I posted information from a university professor in a peer-reviewed journal.

    You, the serial liar, made claims that contradicted the published material.

    It's clear which information was true and which was false.

    Sorry for getting you caught making things up as usual.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    Riiight, lots of empty words to hide that you don’t know what you are talking about. You make up things to suit your biases.

    Czech underground priests in a country with empty churches on each corner. Czechs are atheist since at least the late 19th century. But a crazy Jesus-freak who “studied the Bible” is an “underground priest” – I have seen hundreds of these oppressed priests on the US streets.

    Because some ‘professor Minarik’ wrote it. Do you always worship academia? Do you believe that everything written by anyone at any third-rate US university is also true? How about Cleopatra being “black”? The ‘Minarik’ guy could move to do women-Afro studies at any US ‘university’ – same mentality, but you believe it, don’t you?

    No you just pretend, because you got caught. Sad descent into autistic defensiveness. Take you pills.

    • Troll: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Riiight, lots of empty words
     
    No, that would be your post.

    You got caught lying about the Underground Catholic Church in Czechoslovakia so you engage in these hysterics.

    I provide evidence for my claims. You don’t like it and in response even compare Czechia to Upper Volta. Lol.


    Czech underground priests in a country with empty churches on each corner. Czechs are atheist since at least the late 19th century
     
    All of them? And what about Slovaks?

    In your frantic hysteria, did you forget that Slovakia was also part of Czechoslovakia?


    But a crazy Jesus-freak who “studied the Bible” is an “underground priest”
     
    Reading is hard for you. I’ll repeat the citation:

    “First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish.”

    Which of the categories above were homeless street preachers?

    Oops you were caught lying again.


    Because some ‘professor Minarik’ wrote it. Do you always worship academia? Do you believe that everything written by anyone at any third-rate US university is also true? How about Cleopatra being “black”? The ‘Minarik’ guy could move

     

    Has Minarik ever written that Cleopatra was a Black?

    Or is it your usual hysteria and dishonest implications when you were caught as usual.

    Upper Volta and now this. You have quite an opinion of academia in your region. Well, you personally are rather inadequate, but I suspect the rest are okay.

    Hint: being right isn’t “autism.”

    Replies: @Beckow

  510. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ..Russian surrogates.
     
    What is a Russian surrogate? Are Russians who have lived there for 200 years or people who speak Russian surrogates? You seem to suggest they can be killed or expelled because they don't belong there - they are only surrogates. Pretty sick.

    Mariupol was majority Russian and completely Russian speaking - it was the Ukies nationalists who were the occupiers there.

    Are there also French surrogates in Canada? Mexican surrogates in Arizona? What hatred does to you... no wonder you are losing so badly...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    Are Russians who have lived there for 200 years or people who speak Russian surrogates?

    So why is Russian war strategy so indifferent to the destruction of civilian lives and targets within these areas? Why are so many Russians used in the fighting of this war? How many more battalions of Chechens are needed within Ukraine for you to admit that the impetus for the fighting is coming from outside of Ukraine?

    • Troll: Derer
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Russian war strategy so indifferent to the destruction of civilian lives and targets
     
    So was Ukrainian strategy when bombing Donbas for 8 years killing 2,500 civilians and destroying everything they could. The bulk of fighters against the Kiev government were Donbas militias - they fought for years mostly alone with arms provided by Russia as Kiev gets Nato arms. It is in many ways also a civil war.

    War is hell, each side will fight with what it has - that's why acting normally was so important. Ukies and Nato just couldn't do it: hatred of Russians, nationalism, Banderism, Western greed and indifference to the Ukie lives.

    When this is over I can guarantee nobody left in Ukraine will celebrate Zelina&Co. or have anything nice to say about Nato. This is a lesson in reality they won't soon forget. But maybe half a million or more Ukies will be gone, was it worth the Nato-dream and the hatred of Russians?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikhail

  511. @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    the initial offer by Soviets
     
    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else, thus leaving Finland entirely unprotected later. Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of "world peace" and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all. Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.

    Just like RF most likely demanded to give up the most fortified UA lands in Donbas in 2022 thus leaving the country potentially defensively naked later against still mostly undamaged RF army, but UA also correctly decided it was better to inflict notable bloodletting for the aggressor forces - want take the land, then go massively hemorrhaging for it, instead of getting everything for free;)

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    Excellent response. The only purpose for Gerard is to sometimes elicit comments such as yours.

    • Thanks: sudden death
    • Replies: @sudden death
    @AP

    It also should be pressed that UA in fact initially did the peaceful option by giving away Crimea without any armed resistance in 2014 but instead got rewarded by getting another RF onslaught, so it might have been the height of treacherous stupidity to believe any RF promises, no matter written or not, and repeat it again in 2022, while leaving RF army intact.

    Replies: @Derer

    , @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Excellent response. The only purpose for Gerard is to sometimes elicit comments such as yours.
     
    LOL - more self-deceptive garbage from the the Axis of Excrement ( LatWakjob, Sudden Dementia, Mr Hack, JJ, Homo-Paedo AP with a soft "p" ( literally highly disturbing reading the freakshow of you lusting after Anne Apfelbaum - an action that can only be considered extreme Homo, in addition to all the other vile, fantasist things about yourself), and Paedo-Homo Mr XYZ - with a soft "h" for him, no attempt to even try and disguise the paedo element from XYZ.

    How any sane person can read Sudden's comment , or my response ( which is only partial to his nonsense) and make the conclusion that an insecure retard as yourself has typed.....is impossible. The tedious show of you trying to waste the excellent commentator Beckows time by deliberately talking something you know f**k all about ( Czecholovakia/Slovakia and that end of Communism period in that country) against something he clearly knows alot about .... is the height of scumbag idiocy and sociopathy, and why excrement losers like yourself should have no place on this blog.

    Replies: @AP

  512. @A123
    @Mikel



    Senate, House, state, and local seats are all placed at risk by abandoning the only MAGA Presidential candidate.
     
    Not at all. One can perfectly vote for principled Congress candidates in the primaries and the general election if they win them, while voting for the best presidential candidate policy-wise, even if he belongs to a different party.
     
    Your hypothesis is catastrophically flawed -- "One Can" but history shows vast numbers "Do Not".

    Straight line party voting is a reality. Some jurisdictions even allow a single bubble to be checked to achieve 100% party voting in all races. Top of ballot, extremist, #NeverTrump votes for anti-MAGA RFKjr, will inevitably cascade down ballot to anti-MAGA candidates for Senate, House, state, and local offices.

    If you want MAGA to win with the system that actually exists in the upcoming election, you have only one realistic choice. You need to stop your RFKjr anti-MAGA zealotry. The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

    The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.

    Nonsense. You look unaware of the situation around you. RFK is polling in the double digits. In some states he’s got something like 22%. Since he has no party, that means that millions of Americans right now are planning to vote for congressional candidates of a different party than their presidential choice, as I am suggesting.

    I don’t think he has any prospect of winning the election but his numbers could go higher as fatigue with the major party candidates grows. All polls show that a big majority of Americans would prefer a different choice than the same they were offered in 2020. RFK could channel a big protest vote similar to what Trump himself did in 2016. But there’s also a possibility of the sham trials mobilizing a good part of the electorate against the Establishment and voting for Trump out of spite, just like in 2016. I may even go that route eventually if it keeps getting as grotesque as it is now, we’ll see.

    Trump is his worst enemy for people like me though. I’m pretty sure that he actually prefers docile yes-men like Mike Johnson who go visit him in Mar-a-Lago to respectfully request permission to enact swampy policies rather than the more principled types like Massie or Roy, who may oppose him on ideological grounds. He probably thinks that it was Tucker or Coulter who betrayed him when they criticized his policies while he was in the White House, rather than his real enemies. Like I said, no sooner had Johnson surrendered in the House than he was campaigning in Texas for the man who voted to impeach Trump.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel

    You are painfully unaware of the situation around you. Why do you support the reparations candidate? (1)


    RFK Jr. comes out in Favor of Reparations
    Carving out Lane to Biden’s Left

     

    Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supports issuing reparations to the black community, making him the most prominent 2024 candidate to favor the controversial policy meant to atone for slavery and legal segregation.
    ...
    “Communities that were specifically targeted for destruction need to be specifically targeted for repair,” he states on his campaign website.

    “During Jim Crow, Black banks, businesses, hospitals, schools, and farms were targeted for destruction. Racists knew that without these, the Black community had no chance of building wealth. We must set federal dollars aside to rebuild Black infrastructure.
     
    How does supporting anti-MAGA reparations policy make MAGA candidates stronger down ballot?

    And, this is not the only SJW Globalist policy espoused by RFKjr. Nationally, he remains less than 10% in polling. And, one has to believe that pro-America voters will abandon him once his actual record and plans are more broadly known.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/rfk-jr-comes-out-for-reparations-forging-lane-to-bidens-left/

    Replies: @Mikel

  513. @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    the initial offer by Soviets
     
    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else, thus leaving Finland entirely unprotected later. Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of "world peace" and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all. Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.

    Just like RF most likely demanded to give up the most fortified UA lands in Donbas in 2022 thus leaving the country potentially defensively naked later against still mostly undamaged RF army, but UA also correctly decided it was better to inflict notable bloodletting for the aggressor forces - want take the land, then go massively hemorrhaging for it, instead of getting everything for free;)

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    …Finns saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight

    Finns fought on the Nazi side – they were fighting on the German Nazi side. Are you proud? It is illegal to promote Nazism in a number of Euro countries, so enjoy for now.

    Finns were saved by the Russian generosity after WW2 – Finland signed a treaty to be neutral and have normal relations with Russia. They broke that treaty. Now they have the Russian nukes aiming at Helsinki with a 5-minute flight time. Finns are quite the geniuses – and almost as ungrateful as the Poles.

    A few years from now they will bitterly regret their current hysteria as they did in the past.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Now they have the Russian nukes aiming at Helsinki with a 5-minute flight time.

    And what difference does that make if they would be nuked in any exchange due to their proximity to St Petersburg and Estonia? The same threat existed in 1978. Talk of "5 minute nukes" is blustering for the ignore. All nations lose in a nuclear exchange and it doesn't matter who fires first.

    A few years from now they will bitterly regret their current hysteria as they did in the past.

    Polls shows that there was an increase in support for joining NATO after Putin invaded Ukraine.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/finland-nato-survey-membership/32145117.html

    This might sound crazy but not everyone in the area buys into your "trust a mass murdering dwarf to not invade you" style diplomacy.

    Lavrov went to the UN and swore that they wouldn't invade Ukraine. Remember that? And Scott Ritter went on a big rant for RT.News on how it was all Western propaganda. That has since been scrubbed but I may use to the wayback machine to dig it up. But at this point Finland can trust the dwarf, right? That is what you are saying?

    Replies: @Beckow

  514. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ..Russian surrogates.
     
    What is a Russian surrogate? Are Russians who have lived there for 200 years or people who speak Russian surrogates? You seem to suggest they can be killed or expelled because they don't belong there - they are only surrogates. Pretty sick.

    Mariupol was majority Russian and completely Russian speaking - it was the Ukies nationalists who were the occupiers there.

    Are there also French surrogates in Canada? Mexican surrogates in Arizona? What hatred does to you... no wonder you are losing so badly...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    Mariupol was majority Russian and completely Russian speaking – it was the Ukies nationalists who were the occupiers there.

    So you are saying that Russia should justifiably occupy it since it was once majority Russian?

    Does that mean they cannot justifiably occupy areas that have been majority Ukrainian or were in the past?

    You do acknowledge that most Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for Zelensky and not any of the pro-Russian candidates in the last election?

    Do you think most Russian speaking Ukrainians support Russia’s invasion?

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...saying that Russia should justifiably occupy it since it was once majority Russian?...
     
    Not once, it still is majority Russian. Same as most of Donbas and Crimea.

    The West says that it is justified to fight a war to protect an ethnic minority facing persecution - look up Kosovo and Nato's war on Serbia, it was word-for-word the same, responsibility-to-protect, etc...

    The post-Maidan Kiev government immediately banned Russian language in schools-offices and wanted to join Nato - the anti-Russia military block. Based on the Western 'values' and previous behavior it was justified for Russia to intervene to protect the Russian minority.

    You have no answer to these indisputable facts so you blabber nonsense. Get serious, you are losing the war, try to think how you got here...

    , @Mikhail
    @John Johnson


    You do acknowledge that most Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for Zelensky and not any of the pro-Russian candidates in the last election
     
    Running on a platform calling for improved ties with Russia and settling the Donbass conflict, Zelensky smashed Porsohenko in the 2019 prez vote. Poroshenko was backed by the nationalists. At the time, a number of parties with support in the former Russian Empire Ukrainian territory were banned. In 2016, Zelensky said Russians and Ukrainians are basically the same people and that the Russian language should be respected.

    Keep in mind that 2019 vote didn't include Crimea and rebel held Donbass territory. Zelensky changed when in office on account of the fear factor antics of the Ukrainian uber nationalists and the kind of feedback coming from Western neolibs and neocons.

  515. @Beckow
    @sudden death


    ...Finns saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight
     
    Finns fought on the Nazi side - they were fighting on the German Nazi side. Are you proud? It is illegal to promote Nazism in a number of Euro countries, so enjoy for now.

    Finns were saved by the Russian generosity after WW2 - Finland signed a treaty to be neutral and have normal relations with Russia. They broke that treaty. Now they have the Russian nukes aiming at Helsinki with a 5-minute flight time. Finns are quite the geniuses - and almost as ungrateful as the Poles.

    A few years from now they will bitterly regret their current hysteria as they did in the past.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Now they have the Russian nukes aiming at Helsinki with a 5-minute flight time.

    And what difference does that make if they would be nuked in any exchange due to their proximity to St Petersburg and Estonia? The same threat existed in 1978. Talk of “5 minute nukes” is blustering for the ignore. All nations lose in a nuclear exchange and it doesn’t matter who fires first.

    A few years from now they will bitterly regret their current hysteria as they did in the past.

    Polls shows that there was an increase in support for joining NATO after Putin invaded Ukraine.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/finland-nato-survey-membership/32145117.html

    This might sound crazy but not everyone in the area buys into your “trust a mass murdering dwarf to not invade you” style diplomacy.

    Lavrov went to the UN and swore that they wouldn’t invade Ukraine. Remember that? And Scott Ritter went on a big rant for RT.News on how it was all Western propaganda. That has since been scrubbed but I may use to the wayback machine to dig it up. But at this point Finland can trust the dwarf, right? That is what you are saying?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...what difference does that make?
     
    Maybe none, but in a limited nuclear exchange they (Helsinki, Stockhom) would be evaporated first. The places like Austria, Hungary, Switzerland, Ireland could avoid it. Based on how massive the nuke-exchange would be it may not be worth staying alive. Or it could be, one can move to Patagonia or Madagascar....life would probably continue. But Finland and the Finns would be gone.

    Put that against the odds of Russia invading Finland previous to Nato - it was close to zero, 1 in 10,000. And West would defend Finland whether in Nato or not. Add the business costs - Finnish largest industries prospered exporting to Russia and got materials from Russia, main tourist spenders were from Russia - and Finns were shopping in Russia for bargains. Almost all of it is gone or being phased out.

    They gained nothing and became a primary target. It is hysteria and they will regret it. Scandies tend to be very dumb in real life. Or they just hate Russia viscerally and have been hiding it. Scandies do that too.

  516. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    Riiight, lots of empty words to hide that you don't know what you are talking about. You make up things to suit your biases.

    Czech underground priests in a country with empty churches on each corner. Czechs are atheist since at least the late 19th century. But a crazy Jesus-freak who "studied the Bible" is an "underground priest" - I have seen hundreds of these oppressed priests on the US streets.

    Because some 'professor Minarik' wrote it. Do you always worship academia? Do you believe that everything written by anyone at any third-rate US university is also true? How about Cleopatra being "black"? The 'Minarik' guy could move to do women-Afro studies at any US 'university' - same mentality, but you believe it, don't you?

    No you just pretend, because you got caught. Sad descent into autistic defensiveness. Take you pills.

    Replies: @AP

    Riiight, lots of empty words

    No, that would be your post.

    You got caught lying about the Underground Catholic Church in Czechoslovakia so you engage in these hysterics.

    I provide evidence for my claims. You don’t like it and in response even compare Czechia to Upper Volta. Lol.

    Czech underground priests in a country with empty churches on each corner. Czechs are atheist since at least the late 19th century

    All of them? And what about Slovaks?

    In your frantic hysteria, did you forget that Slovakia was also part of Czechoslovakia?

    But a crazy Jesus-freak who “studied the Bible” is an “underground priest”

    Reading is hard for you. I’ll repeat the citation:

    “First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish.”

    Which of the categories above were homeless street preachers?

    Oops you were caught lying again.

    Because some ‘professor Minarik’ wrote it. Do you always worship academia? Do you believe that everything written by anyone at any third-rate US university is also true? How about Cleopatra being “black”? The ‘Minarik’ guy could move

    Has Minarik ever written that Cleopatra was a Black?

    Or is it your usual hysteria and dishonest implications when you were caught as usual.

    Upper Volta and now this. You have quite an opinion of academia in your region. Well, you personally are rather inadequate, but I suspect the rest are okay.

    Hint: being right isn’t “autism.”

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Stop embarrassing yourself, you know literally nothing about it. Try to think: an atheist country with a lukewarm attitude toward religion and militant hostility by millions of seculars and leftists towards the Catholic Church - Habsburg's Catholicism was very unpopular - with plentiful open churches needed an 'underground church"? Why? Almost all believers were old ladies. In the cities (including Slovakia) people were indifferent and used the church only for basics: baptism, marriage...empty rituals and music.

    The religious fundamentalists were unpopular - young people made fun of them, it had nothing to do with commies. They were "Jesus-freak" morons for us. The Poles were ridiculed for their perceived religiosity. There were remote areas that had (and have) more active church but there was no need to have 'underground' priests - they had priests and the congregations were old women and a few oddball enthusiasts.

    But go on, you just prove again how deficient 'merican education and understnding of other societies is. Stick with your Polish clericals, we have never been like that. In Slovakia or southern Moravia it is slightly more religious, but only in small towns and villages - even there the active believers are a minority. You don't understand anything.

    Replies: @AP

  517. @Mikhail
    @Philip Owen

    A Western neolib establishment take of Mishustin:

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/%E2%80%9Cenlightened%E2%80%9D-alternative-after-putin-210646

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    I am not a NEO Lib. I’m an original Liberal circa Keynes. More capitalist than Thatcher. Original globalist free trader. Liberty for small nations.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Philip Owen

    Except Palestine. Screw those guys. Right?


    If you want a nigger for a neighbor vote for labor!
     
    I kid. I love the British. The Boer War is my favorite.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  518. I thought the Storm Shadows were supplied from old stock and UK production had ended. It turns out they are in full production now. I counted 12 on a BAe Systems video. This explains their intermittent use in Ukraine. They presumably need a settling period before final test so months before these reach the battlefield but they are not the first of the new deliveries.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Philip Owen

    " It turns out they are in full production now."

    Any links? I too thought production had ended, certainly in the UK.

  519. @AP
    @sudden death

    Excellent response. The only purpose for Gerard is to sometimes elicit comments such as yours.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Gerard1234

    It also should be pressed that UA in fact initially did the peaceful option by giving away Crimea without any armed resistance in 2014 but instead got rewarded by getting another RF onslaught, so it might have been the height of treacherous stupidity to believe any RF promises, no matter written or not, and repeat it again in 2022, while leaving RF army intact.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @sudden death

    Do you mean the Minsk promises?

    Replies: @sudden death

  520. Here come the turtles:

  521. @AP
    @Beckow


    Riiight, lots of empty words
     
    No, that would be your post.

    You got caught lying about the Underground Catholic Church in Czechoslovakia so you engage in these hysterics.

    I provide evidence for my claims. You don’t like it and in response even compare Czechia to Upper Volta. Lol.


    Czech underground priests in a country with empty churches on each corner. Czechs are atheist since at least the late 19th century
     
    All of them? And what about Slovaks?

    In your frantic hysteria, did you forget that Slovakia was also part of Czechoslovakia?


    But a crazy Jesus-freak who “studied the Bible” is an “underground priest”
     
    Reading is hard for you. I’ll repeat the citation:

    “First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish.”

    Which of the categories above were homeless street preachers?

    Oops you were caught lying again.


    Because some ‘professor Minarik’ wrote it. Do you always worship academia? Do you believe that everything written by anyone at any third-rate US university is also true? How about Cleopatra being “black”? The ‘Minarik’ guy could move

     

    Has Minarik ever written that Cleopatra was a Black?

    Or is it your usual hysteria and dishonest implications when you were caught as usual.

    Upper Volta and now this. You have quite an opinion of academia in your region. Well, you personally are rather inadequate, but I suspect the rest are okay.

    Hint: being right isn’t “autism.”

    Replies: @Beckow

    Stop embarrassing yourself, you know literally nothing about it. Try to think: an atheist country with a lukewarm attitude toward religion and militant hostility by millions of seculars and leftists towards the Catholic Church – Habsburg’s Catholicism was very unpopular – with plentiful open churches needed an ‘underground church“? Why? Almost all believers were old ladies. In the cities (including Slovakia) people were indifferent and used the church only for basics: baptism, marriage…empty rituals and music.

    The religious fundamentalists were unpopular – young people made fun of them, it had nothing to do with commies. They were “Jesus-freak” morons for us. The Poles were ridiculed for their perceived religiosity. There were remote areas that had (and have) more active church but there was no need to have ‘underground’ priests – they had priests and the congregations were old women and a few oddball enthusiasts.

    But go on, you just prove again how deficient ‘merican education and understnding of other societies is. Stick with your Polish clericals, we have never been like that. In Slovakia or southern Moravia it is slightly more religious, but only in small towns and villages – even there the active believers are a minority. You don’t understand anything.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow

    A midwit is supposed to be someone intelligent enough to absorb and learn a lot from teachers or the media, but not smart enough to see through any bullshit that they are being fed.

    You are a late Commie-era Czechoslovak midwit.

    Midwits can be fun and useful: for example, I don't need to read history or political tracts published in Soviet-occupied Czechoslovakia. I can learn what the people were taught about their history and their attitudes towards others simply by communicating with you. It's all there: the myths about the Hapsburgs, the myths about atheism, the myths about progress relative to the West, the glaring blindspots about the Underground Church in your own lands. And yes, even the cynicism and dishonesty, very characteristic of late-era Socialism in eastern Europe.

    Now let's respond to your empty words:


    Try to think: an atheist country with a lukewarm attitude toward religion and militant hostility by millions of seculars and leftists towards the Catholic Church – Habsburg’s Catholicism was very unpopular – with plentiful open churches needed an ‘underground church“? Why? Almost all believers were old ladies.
     
    Czechoslovakia was more atheistic than its neighbors got a long time, but was not always an "atheist country."

    This is what the Czech embassy claims:

    https://mzv.gov.cz/ottawa/en/general_information_on_the_czech/religion/index.html

    Presently, 39.8% of Czechs consider themselves atheist; 39.2% are Roman Catholics; 4.6% are Protestant, with 1.9% in the Czech-founded Hussite Reform Church, 1.6% in the Czech Brotherhood Evangelic Church, and 0.5% in the Silesian Evangelic Church; 3% are members of the Orthodox Church; and 13.4% are undecided.

    This Czech researcher claims atheism in Czechia is currently at 78% (this number is probably more accurate, I suspect many of the 39% on the Embassy page are members of the Church who don't actually believe):

    https://philarchive.org/rec/VITTCR-2

    However it was only 56% in 1991.

    So in the 1970s and 1980s around half of Czechs were religious. Given the size of the Underground Catholic Church, it seems that the number of official priests was insufficient. And also, many Catholics did not want priests who compromised with the authorities.

    Furthermore, official priests were limited n the ability to serve people in certain settings - so the Underground ones played this role.

    Also I was discussing Czechoslovakia which includes Czechia and more-devout Slovakia.


    The religious fundamentalists were unpopular
     
    So proclaims the dishonest Beckow.

    The same one who insisted the Underground priests were crazy street preachers, rather than priests ordained by bishops.

    Here is an interview with one of the underground Catholic priests in Czechoslovakia (secretly ordained by a German bishop in 1978), published by University of Notre Dame Press. He is, himself a professor at Charles University in Prague. You will now frantically compare it to the Congo:

    https://undpress.nd.edu/blog/2020/07/01/an-interview-with-tomas-halik-author-of-from-the-underground-church-to-freedom/

    What form did the underground Catholic Church take in Communist Czechoslovakia?

    "It was not a united organization—there were several groups. One part consisted of priests who had been officially ordained but who had lost their government permission to serve as priests. All these official priests were practically in a schizophrenic situation. They were paid by the state, but if they performed their work well—if they had a full church, or the interest of young people—they were punished. Everywhere there were Communist-appointed secretaries for church affairs who controlled everything, especially the priests, and they had the power to take away their permission without any explanation. If a priest had some kind of activity with young people, he was especially likely to be punished. Some were sent to regions near the border, which was practically a religious desert. Or, their permission was taken away completely, and they had to work as a window cleaner or janitor. So they worked in such jobs while continuing to perform some priestly activity in private apartments.

    Another part of the underground Church were priests who had been secretly ordained by bishops who had themselves been secretly ordained. Even prior to the Communist putsch in 1948, Pope Pius XII expected hard persecution of the Church, so he allowed the secret ordination of bishops for this time of persecution. But practically all of these secretly ordained bishops were discovered and arrested by the Communist secret police. Some of them used the last moment before they were taken into prison to ordain another bishop. However, this was without a decision of the Holy See, so things became complicated from the point of view of canon law.

    The third part of the underground Church were priests who were ordained by bishops in other so-called socialist countries, such as Poland and East Germany, to which we were allowed to travel. I was ordained a priest in East Germany in 1978, in the private chapel of the bishop of Erfurt."


    just prove again how deficient ‘merican education and understnding

     

    You have quite adequately demonstrated the deficiency of your education in Slovakia.

    Replies: @Beckow

  522. Who saw Blinken off at the airport? No one from China.

    https://t.me/llordofwar/336558

    “None of the Chinese authorities saw off US Secretary of State Antony Blinken at Beijing airport. Only American Ambassador Burns kept his boss company, Chinese media reported.

    NATO bears irreducible responsibility for the Ukrainian crisis. The alliance must reflect on its role, stop blaming others, and take action for a political settlement of the Ukrainian crisis,” said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin at the end of the US Secretary of State’s visit.

    Blinken responded upon arriving home by saying that the United States had found evidence of China’s attempts to influence the outcome of the upcoming presidential election. He made this statement in an interview with CNN following his visit to Beijing.”

    I thought Bill Burns was CIA director? He used to be Moscow ambassador, back in 2008 or so.

    Or are all US ambassadors called Burns to keep it simple?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Somebody calculated it was the number 24 Chinese diplomat who greeted Blinken at the airport when he arrived. It must not have been easy those Chinese are so inscrutable.

    , @Mikhail
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This Mr. Burns would be an improvement:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW_31Apo_ZQ

  523. A123 says: • Website
    @Mikel
    @A123


    The only viable option is supporting MAGA Trump 2024. If you do not do so, you are helping anti-MAGA in every down ballot race.
     
    Nonsense. You look unaware of the situation around you. RFK is polling in the double digits. In some states he's got something like 22%. Since he has no party, that means that millions of Americans right now are planning to vote for congressional candidates of a different party than their presidential choice, as I am suggesting.

    I don't think he has any prospect of winning the election but his numbers could go higher as fatigue with the major party candidates grows. All polls show that a big majority of Americans would prefer a different choice than the same they were offered in 2020. RFK could channel a big protest vote similar to what Trump himself did in 2016. But there's also a possibility of the sham trials mobilizing a good part of the electorate against the Establishment and voting for Trump out of spite, just like in 2016. I may even go that route eventually if it keeps getting as grotesque as it is now, we'll see.

    Trump is his worst enemy for people like me though. I'm pretty sure that he actually prefers docile yes-men like Mike Johnson who go visit him in Mar-a-Lago to respectfully request permission to enact swampy policies rather than the more principled types like Massie or Roy, who may oppose him on ideological grounds. He probably thinks that it was Tucker or Coulter who betrayed him when they criticized his policies while he was in the White House, rather than his real enemies. Like I said, no sooner had Johnson surrendered in the House than he was campaigning in Texas for the man who voted to impeach Trump.

    Replies: @A123

    You are painfully unaware of the situation around you. Why do you support the reparations candidate? (1)

    RFK Jr. comes out in Favor of Reparations
    Carving out Lane to Biden’s Left

    Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supports issuing reparations to the black community, making him the most prominent 2024 candidate to favor the controversial policy meant to atone for slavery and legal segregation.

    “Communities that were specifically targeted for destruction need to be specifically targeted for repair,” he states on his campaign website.

    “During Jim Crow, Black banks, businesses, hospitals, schools, and farms were targeted for destruction. Racists knew that without these, the Black community had no chance of building wealth. We must set federal dollars aside to rebuild Black infrastructure.

    How does supporting anti-MAGA reparations policy make MAGA candidates stronger down ballot?

    And, this is not the only SJW Globalist policy espoused by RFKjr. Nationally, he remains less than 10% in polling. And, one has to believe that pro-America voters will abandon him once his actual record and plans are more broadly known.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/rfk-jr-comes-out-for-reparations-forging-lane-to-bidens-left/

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @A123


    Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supports issuing reparations
     
    That sounds bad. Thanks for letting me know. He's far from an ideal candidate. He used to be a climate nutter and continues to be an anti-vax nutter. He's obviously not as good as a Rand Paul or a Thomas Massie would be. We also lost DeSantis and Vivek. But all things considered, I think he still beats Trump for the reasons explained above.
  524. Mikel says:

    from the previous thread.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-246/#comment-6537773

    Is it more known if having more cancer reduces V02 max or having more V02 reduces cancer?

    Repeat procedure with many other diseases.

    Is it more known if having more water-borne disease reduces V02 max or having more V02 max reduces water-borne disease?

    Is it more known if having more malnutrition reduces V02 max or having high V02 reduces malnutrition?

    That’s a little better than you have done before. Those are valid questions. But sadly, you keep talking as if all we had was a simple plot of two correlated variables with no more information. When you provided the Finnish twins study I read it in order to provide a reasoned critique. Why don’t you return the favor and take the time to read the papers I have provided so that we can have a more worthwhile conversation?

    In the last meta-analysis that I gave you Laukkanen et al specifically talk about selecting 37 cohort studies where the authors had controlled for confounding factors like existence of illness and risk factors (page 8) and used sophisticated methods to avoid reverse-causation bias (pages 9, 14).

    https://research-information.bris.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/314942003/CRF_Mortality_Final.pdf

    So right there you have a group of PhDs giving a formal and rigorous answer to the very questions you keep repeating for several weeks as if we hadn’t discussed them already.

    On top of that, there are all the rest of the lines of evidence I had provided earlier. Specifically, in the video I showed you Professor Calbet explains the results of the mating experiments with mice selected for a genetically high vo2max and the finding that patients with chronic illnesses live longer if they have a high vo2max.

    If you were able to think about it carefully, you might understand that what these dozens of vo2max studies show is not particularly striking. Let’s imagine two individuals in good health who have just had their bloodwork done and all biomarkers show normal levels. But one of them has a low vo2max and is unable to run more than a couple of miles without stopping out of breath. The other one has a very high vo2max and completed the NYC marathon in 20th place. However, a couple of moths later they both go on to suffer a fatal health issue. They get diagnosed with pancreatic cancer or they suffer a car accident that leaves them in comma with a broken skull.

    Now, let’s imagine that we ask the following question to a random group of people on the street: “who of these two persons do you think will live longer, all things being equal?”. Of course, 99.9% of the respondents would choose the second guy. For some strange reason, you keep insisting that there is no reason to give that common sense answer.

    How do they try to manage this purely logical and formal question?

    They don’t notice it and their adjustment is to say excluding 10-year mortality the relation is still robust

    Again, they used the following techniques to address that question and many more that could introduce bias in the cohort studies and compromise the quality of the evidence:

    GRADE (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation)
    PRISMA and MOOSE guidelines
    Cochrane Risk of Bias in Non-randomised Studies (ROBINS-I)
    Begg’s funnel plots
    Egger’s regression symmetry test
    Stata module metaninf
    Duval and Tweedie’s nonparametric trim-and-fill method

    I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools but… are you? Reply honestly and explain why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.

    The results would be more arguing for V02 max as a stress test or diagnostic of underlying disease.

    This is just pure ignorance. As it happens, I have done both a VO2max test and a stress test in the past. They both measure very different things. My cousin’s husband is a sports medicine doctor and just by coincidence, we were discussing the differences between both tests not long ago. VO2max tests cannot be used to diagnose any illness.

    You transcribed the CDC advice which recommends 2,5 hours of moderate exercise or 1,25 hours of vigorous exercise.

    You are omitting two crucial elements in the CDC/HHS recommendation: at least and for
    substantial health benefits
    . That is the minimum they say you should do if you expect substantial results.

    So, the CDC guideline is actually just “avoid extreme physical inactivity”

    Nonsense. There are some good reasons to avoid extreme forms of exercise if you are untrained but the CDC doesn’t say “just avoid extreme physical inactivity” at all.

    Longevity field seems not a real field. It’s YouTuber marketing language.

    In the future, maybe there will be drugs that are validated to increase human lifespan, you could call the drug-developed “longevity field”.

    LOL. The longevity field is not about finding drugs that increase lifespan. It’s composed by the scientists that study the biological mechanisms of again and development. I suspect that the accomplished scientists who have devoted their lives to studying these mechanisms (some of them Nobel laureates) would not be amused by a software engineer proclaiming that their field of study does not exist.

    It loos likely that some of the molecules and interventions that have proven to extend lifespan in animal models in randomized, placebo-controlled studies could also have an effect on humans but this is yet not known because no such decades-long studies are possible in humans under lab conditions. This is the reason why they’re trying to develop the epigenetic clocks that you mentioned in the twins study but unfortunately, it is still impossible to know what a reversal in the age of these epigenetic clocks means. It may mean that some (but not all) of the aging mechanisms have been stopped or it may just mean that we’re just changing a biological calendar to say that it’s 2014 instead of 2024 but no age reversal has occurred at all. Besides, different tissues show different rates of aging with the same clocks so we have no single metric to assess overall aging.

    They are arguing V02 is a stress test to detect disease risk. This is saying they argue the association is what is called in earlier paper reverse causality.

    The cockatoo argument method again?

    I am actually very open to any criticism anyone can raise against these fitness hacks who have become so influential lately. Right now I am following with great interest the zone-2 training debate that is raging on the internet and have not yet decided who to trust more. In fact, this is one of the reasons I didn’t need any of the information I have been digging in my debate with you to know that the vo2max studies were no-nonsense. As I said, it’s a very competitive space and Attia just cannot afford to talk scientific rubbish without his competitors going for his jugular immediately. Even his frequent collaborator Patrick has raised her voice against him on the zone-2 question.

    Now that I know my vo2max (if the measurements of the clinic I chose can be trusted), I do have a vested interest in the mainstream view in the exercise and longevity fields being correct. But, in general, it’s much more interesting to try to figure out where the truth lies on any matter. Lying to yourself is a poor life strategy and there is intrinsic beauty in truth, whether it provides a benefit to you or not.

    Unfortunately, somebody showing off that he knows something about the problem of reverse causality in observational studies and saying that, since successful youtubers make a lot of money, one cannot believe anything they say is not a useful criticism. There’s no information there for me to reevaluate anything I thought previously.

    Thanks for giving make the opportunity to dig in the literature though. That’s actually been helpful, as I now have much more solid evidence to be optimistic about my vo2max level 🙂

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Mikel


    In the last meta-analysis that I gave you
     
    You said about parrots. I need to repeat like a parrot because I was uncertain if you understand the concept I am explaining. From posting the last paper, it seems it was correct to be uncertain.

    The paper concludes there is an "association" which is the correlation we have been discussing so they say cardio-respiratory fitness can be a diagnostic for mortality. To be a good diagnostic, the direction is health -> cardiovascular fitness.


    right there you have a group of PhDs giving a formal and rigorous answer to the very questions you keep repeating for several weeks

     

    Your credentialism is surprising because the problem is many of the authors of these papers seem to not have formal education in the inference parts of their papers. They are do inferences which they don't have the education level to understand. Some of them don't always understand the implications the tests they choose from the software menu.

    In this last paper unlike an earlier one you posted, they understand they cannot say much so and conclude modestly there is an association and this association can be diagnostic. Although some of their writing inside about exercise recommendations is not supported, it contradicts the logic of using fitness as a diagnostic which is their conclusion


    37 cohort studies where the authors had controlled for confounding factors like existence of illness and risk factors (page 8) and used sophisticated methods to avoid reverse-causation bias (pages 9, 14).
    After excluding the studies that
     
    "Sophisticated method" is to exclude "those with ≤5 years of follow-up". Health is a continuum and not dying within 5 years doesn't indicate absence of reverse causation.

    Specifically, in the video I showed you Professor Calbet explains the results of the mating experiments with mice selected for a genetically high vo2max

     

    This could only support "reverse causation" explanation of the correlation.

    Of course, 99.9% of the respondents would choose the second guy. For some strange reason, you keep insisting that there is no reason to give that common sense answer.

     

    You still don't understand the point. This "folk belief" would support reverse causation.

    Let's say, your grandparents were horse farmers. When you stress test them for cardio respiratory fitness, one of their horses runs around the farm. Another horse collapses after a minute.

    Which will they believe is more likely to die soon?

    Is the folk belief because "we haven't made the horse do enough exercise"? Or is it because "the energy of the horse is result of how healthy they are?".

    -

    With the mice. If you want to have more energic children of mice, you would choose the mice with more energetic parents. Does this imply "we should make the mice run more on the wheel"? Or does this imply "mice running more on wheel is symptom mice being more healthy"?

    hey used the following techniques to address that question and many more that could introduce bias in the cohort studies and compromise the quality of the evidence:


    GRADE (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation)
    PRISMA and MOOSE guidelines
    Cochrane Risk of Bias in Non-randomised Studies (ROBINS-I)
    Begg’s funnel plots
    Egger’s regression symmetry test
    Stata module metaninf
    Duval and Tweedie’s nonparametric trim-and-fill method

    I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools but… are you? Reply honestly and explain why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.
     

    Actually I watched some of the Cochrane videos on YouTube when they explain these.

    The paper is meta analysis. GRADE and ROBINS-I are software to check different aspects like the papers are not hiding results.

    The funnel plots/Egger's are designed to check the researchers are not doing publication bias.

    metaninf is a module in Stata. It sounds like it retrieves information about the proportion of influence of each study in the final.

    metaninf is a command in the software which finds the contribution of a study to the final result. This is related to the topic I was explaining to Yahya a few months ago, when he became pretty angry.

    Metaanalysis often is to view not each study as equally weighted, but the participants in the study. In terns of the discussion about "correlation between IQ test results and economic history", then our analysis would be a lot more influenced by China than by Norway, because many more "partipants" in the study.


    why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.

     

    None of those are relevant to our discussion. The meta-analysis is testing if there is a correlation. The problem in some of the papers is not about the existence of the correlation. It's in the inference about causation.

    This is just pure ignorance. As it happens, I have done both a VO2max test and a stress test in the past. They both measure very different things.

     

    You don't know the concept of "stress testing"?

    It's one of the most common things in engineering. Most of the products you buy have been stress tested. Sometimes they are doing load testing to understand the modes of failure.

    In animal, V02 max would be example of doing stress testing of the animal on a part of their system.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_testing_(software)


    medicine doctor and just by coincidence, we were discussing the differences between both tests not long ago. VO2 max tests cannot be used to diagnose any illness.
     
    Vo2 max testing could be used to diagnose absence of many illnesses if you wanted. You would just need enough sample of the falling V02 max at different stages of the illness.

    Nonsense. There are some good reasons to avoid extreme forms of exercise if you are untrained but the CDC doesn’t say “just avoid extreme physical inactivity” at all.

     

    The CDC guideline you transcribed just said “just avoid extreme physical inactivity”. If you are less than their guideline you are only doing extreme physical inactivity.

    The longevity field is not about finding drugs that increase lifespan. It’s composed by the scientists that study the biological mechanisms of again and development. I

     

    The "longevity field" is a YouTube marketing term. It's not an academic field. There is nowhere in the university to study the longevity field with "Professor of longevity".

    The words "longevity field" are false marketing for consumers because it contains an implication that there are "longevity solutions". As we know, there are not validated "longevity" drugs or treatments.


    be amused by a software engineer proclaiming

     

    You have contradictory expressions about computer scientists.

    In the same comment, you were posting work of software engineers while saying "I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools", like you were happy about the people have been doing the main work in the paper - software engineers who made those tools that does the difficult work in their paper.


    Nobel laureates) would not be amused by a software engineer proclaiming that their field of study does not exist.
     
    If they have Nobel prize, then their field of study is chemistry, medicine, physics, economics.

    one cannot believe anything they say is not a useful criticism. There’s no information there for me to reevaluate anything I thought previously.

     

    As I understand you still didn't understand the concept. Maybe this time we will be lucky?

    we are direct descendants of hunter-gatherers. Our species evolved for hundreds of thousands of years to do physical exercise in order to survive and descends from prior species that had been doing the same for millions of years

     

    These naturalistic arguments don't make sense for a few reasons.

    1. After reproduction age, almost all selection was over.* The selective pressures on our current genetics were almost all until the end of reproduction age.

    While you are talking about exercise extending the lifespan of people who are over the age of reproduction, which were already outside selection.

    2. Animals have longer life expectancy in captivity than in the wild. Chimpanzees live longer in the zoo than in the jungle. Humans have much longer life expectancy now than their ancestors.

    So, the idea of societies where people live longer than their ancestors, will copy the ancestors to live longer, doesn't make sense unless you believe some Biblical mythology.

    3. There is a lot of controversy in archelogical if humans had fire for most of their evolution, as the archelogical evidence is mixed even for something which has real evidence that shows on the ground.

    This view we would know how much ancient humans were exercising is not correct. We don't know how much exercise they were doing. At some times, probably reproductively successful groups were doing less exercise than the unsuccessful ones, in other epochs it would change.

    4. What timeslice of evolution is relevant? Most of our systems were evolved by non-human ancestors, who would have different levels of activity during the reproductive portion of their life.



    -

    * If we wanted to effective selectively breed animal for better aging, we would prevent them from reproducing until end of the age of reproduction, until a high proportion are not able to reproduct. This would be extending the proportion of the animals' lifetime which is exposed to selective pressure which is the reproductive phase.

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  525. @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    I am not a NEO Lib. I'm an original Liberal circa Keynes. More capitalist than Thatcher. Original globalist free trader. Liberty for small nations.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Except Palestine. Screw those guys. Right?

    If you want a nigger for a neighbor vote for labor!

    I kid. I love the British. The Boer War is my favorite.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    For Palestine too but the Mizrahi Jews were expelled by the Arabs. Israel is their only home. It should stay that way.

  526. @YetAnotherAnon
    Who saw Blinken off at the airport? No one from China.

    https://t.me/llordofwar/336558

    “None of the Chinese authorities saw off US Secretary of State Antony Blinken at Beijing airport. Only American Ambassador Burns kept his boss company, Chinese media reported.

    NATO bears irreducible responsibility for the Ukrainian crisis. The alliance must reflect on its role, stop blaming others, and take action for a political settlement of the Ukrainian crisis,” said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin at the end of the US Secretary of State’s visit.

    Blinken responded upon arriving home by saying that the United States had found evidence of China’s attempts to influence the outcome of the upcoming presidential election. He made this statement in an interview with CNN following his visit to Beijing.”
     
    I thought Bill Burns was CIA director? He used to be Moscow ambassador, back in 2008 or so.

    Or are all US ambassadors called Burns to keep it simple?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikhail

    Somebody calculated it was the number 24 Chinese diplomat who greeted Blinken at the airport when he arrived. It must not have been easy those Chinese are so inscrutable.

  527. @Philip Owen
    I thought the Storm Shadows were supplied from old stock and UK production had ended. It turns out they are in full production now. I counted 12 on a BAe Systems video. This explains their intermittent use in Ukraine. They presumably need a settling period before final test so months before these reach the battlefield but they are not the first of the new deliveries.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    ” It turns out they are in full production now.”

    Any links? I too thought production had ended, certainly in the UK.

  528. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Mariupol was majority Russian and completely Russian speaking – it was the Ukies nationalists who were the occupiers there.

    So you are saying that Russia should justifiably occupy it since it was once majority Russian?

    Does that mean they cannot justifiably occupy areas that have been majority Ukrainian or were in the past?

    You do acknowledge that most Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for Zelensky and not any of the pro-Russian candidates in the last election?

    Do you think most Russian speaking Ukrainians support Russia's invasion?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikhail

    …saying that Russia should justifiably occupy it since it was once majority Russian?…

    Not once, it still is majority Russian. Same as most of Donbas and Crimea.

    The West says that it is justified to fight a war to protect an ethnic minority facing persecution – look up Kosovo and Nato’s war on Serbia, it was word-for-word the same, responsibility-to-protect, etc…

    The post-Maidan Kiev government immediately banned Russian language in schools-offices and wanted to join Nato – the anti-Russia military block. Based on the Western ‘values‘ and previous behavior it was justified for Russia to intervene to protect the Russian minority.

    You have no answer to these indisputable facts so you blabber nonsense. Get serious, you are losing the war, try to think how you got here…

  529. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    "neo-Nazi Azov" were comprised mostly of Ukrainians from Eastern Ukraine and stayed put in their ancestral lands to defend Mariupol from the encroachment of Russian surrogates. You don't have to rely on your own memory or arrogant BBC reporters, just watch the video I've enclosed above featuring the accounts of eye-witness civilians from Mariupol.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @Mikhail

    And Matviyenko is originally from Shepetivka.

  530. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Now they have the Russian nukes aiming at Helsinki with a 5-minute flight time.

    And what difference does that make if they would be nuked in any exchange due to their proximity to St Petersburg and Estonia? The same threat existed in 1978. Talk of "5 minute nukes" is blustering for the ignore. All nations lose in a nuclear exchange and it doesn't matter who fires first.

    A few years from now they will bitterly regret their current hysteria as they did in the past.

    Polls shows that there was an increase in support for joining NATO after Putin invaded Ukraine.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/finland-nato-survey-membership/32145117.html

    This might sound crazy but not everyone in the area buys into your "trust a mass murdering dwarf to not invade you" style diplomacy.

    Lavrov went to the UN and swore that they wouldn't invade Ukraine. Remember that? And Scott Ritter went on a big rant for RT.News on how it was all Western propaganda. That has since been scrubbed but I may use to the wayback machine to dig it up. But at this point Finland can trust the dwarf, right? That is what you are saying?

    Replies: @Beckow

    …what difference does that make?

    Maybe none, but in a limited nuclear exchange they (Helsinki, Stockhom) would be evaporated first. The places like Austria, Hungary, Switzerland, Ireland could avoid it. Based on how massive the nuke-exchange would be it may not be worth staying alive. Or it could be, one can move to Patagonia or Madagascar….life would probably continue. But Finland and the Finns would be gone.

    Put that against the odds of Russia invading Finland previous to Nato – it was close to zero, 1 in 10,000. And West would defend Finland whether in Nato or not. Add the business costs – Finnish largest industries prospered exporting to Russia and got materials from Russia, main tourist spenders were from Russia – and Finns were shopping in Russia for bargains. Almost all of it is gone or being phased out.

    They gained nothing and became a primary target. It is hysteria and they will regret it. Scandies tend to be very dumb in real life. Or they just hate Russia viscerally and have been hiding it. Scandies do that too.

  531. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Mariupol was majority Russian and completely Russian speaking – it was the Ukies nationalists who were the occupiers there.

    So you are saying that Russia should justifiably occupy it since it was once majority Russian?

    Does that mean they cannot justifiably occupy areas that have been majority Ukrainian or were in the past?

    You do acknowledge that most Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for Zelensky and not any of the pro-Russian candidates in the last election?

    Do you think most Russian speaking Ukrainians support Russia's invasion?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikhail

    You do acknowledge that most Russian speaking Ukrainians voted for Zelensky and not any of the pro-Russian candidates in the last election

    Running on a platform calling for improved ties with Russia and settling the Donbass conflict, Zelensky smashed Porsohenko in the 2019 prez vote. Poroshenko was backed by the nationalists. At the time, a number of parties with support in the former Russian Empire Ukrainian territory were banned. In 2016, Zelensky said Russians and Ukrainians are basically the same people and that the Russian language should be respected.

    Keep in mind that 2019 vote didn’t include Crimea and rebel held Donbass territory. Zelensky changed when in office on account of the fear factor antics of the Ukrainian uber nationalists and the kind of feedback coming from Western neolibs and neocons.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  532. @YetAnotherAnon
    Who saw Blinken off at the airport? No one from China.

    https://t.me/llordofwar/336558

    “None of the Chinese authorities saw off US Secretary of State Antony Blinken at Beijing airport. Only American Ambassador Burns kept his boss company, Chinese media reported.

    NATO bears irreducible responsibility for the Ukrainian crisis. The alliance must reflect on its role, stop blaming others, and take action for a political settlement of the Ukrainian crisis,” said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin at the end of the US Secretary of State’s visit.

    Blinken responded upon arriving home by saying that the United States had found evidence of China’s attempts to influence the outcome of the upcoming presidential election. He made this statement in an interview with CNN following his visit to Beijing.”
     
    I thought Bill Burns was CIA director? He used to be Moscow ambassador, back in 2008 or so.

    Or are all US ambassadors called Burns to keep it simple?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikhail

    This Mr. Burns would be an improvement:

  533. @A123
    @Mikel

    You are painfully unaware of the situation around you. Why do you support the reparations candidate? (1)


    RFK Jr. comes out in Favor of Reparations
    Carving out Lane to Biden’s Left

     

    Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supports issuing reparations to the black community, making him the most prominent 2024 candidate to favor the controversial policy meant to atone for slavery and legal segregation.
    ...
    “Communities that were specifically targeted for destruction need to be specifically targeted for repair,” he states on his campaign website.

    “During Jim Crow, Black banks, businesses, hospitals, schools, and farms were targeted for destruction. Racists knew that without these, the Black community had no chance of building wealth. We must set federal dollars aside to rebuild Black infrastructure.
     
    How does supporting anti-MAGA reparations policy make MAGA candidates stronger down ballot?

    And, this is not the only SJW Globalist policy espoused by RFKjr. Nationally, he remains less than 10% in polling. And, one has to believe that pro-America voters will abandon him once his actual record and plans are more broadly known.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/rfk-jr-comes-out-for-reparations-forging-lane-to-bidens-left/

    Replies: @Mikel

    Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supports issuing reparations

    That sounds bad. Thanks for letting me know. He’s far from an ideal candidate. He used to be a climate nutter and continues to be an anti-vax nutter. He’s obviously not as good as a Rand Paul or a Thomas Massie would be. We also lost DeSantis and Vivek. But all things considered, I think he still beats Trump for the reasons explained above.

  534. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Are Russians who have lived there for 200 years or people who speak Russian surrogates?
     
    So why is Russian war strategy so indifferent to the destruction of civilian lives and targets within these areas? Why are so many Russians used in the fighting of this war? How many more battalions of Chechens are needed within Ukraine for you to admit that the impetus for the fighting is coming from outside of Ukraine?

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Russian war strategy so indifferent to the destruction of civilian lives and targets

    So was Ukrainian strategy when bombing Donbas for 8 years killing 2,500 civilians and destroying everything they could. The bulk of fighters against the Kiev government were Donbas militias – they fought for years mostly alone with arms provided by Russia as Kiev gets Nato arms. It is in many ways also a civil war.

    War is hell, each side will fight with what it has – that’s why acting normally was so important. Ukies and Nato just couldn’t do it: hatred of Russians, nationalism, Banderism, Western greed and indifference to the Ukie lives.

    When this is over I can guarantee nobody left in Ukraine will celebrate Zelina&Co. or have anything nice to say about Nato. This is a lesson in reality they won’t soon forget. But maybe half a million or more Ukies will be gone, was it worth the Nato-dream and the hatred of Russians?

    • Disagree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Your guarantees and hackneyed opinions are worthless. According to AP you're an inveterate liar that shouldn't be trusted. I tend to wholeheartedly agree with him.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    That 2,500 figure has been reasonably second guessed with the belief that it's actually higher.

  535. @LatW
    @songbird


    I assumed he was talking about apparatchiks rather than nomenklatura.
     
    This is the original quote from Beckow:

    "Our party ‘leadership’ were elderly fat women obsessed with free sandwiches and keeping everything hush-hush, the school assistant-principal types. The few men were usually hopeless blue-collar drunks (second generation) or hidden-homo-intellectuals – they quickly found new sponsors after 1989 among their fellow homo-liberal-Westies.:

    Our party leadership - assuming he was talking about the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia (was in power until 1991?). Or its branch the Slovak Communist Party.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Slovakia_(1939)

    It is clear without even looking that there was not a single female General Secretary - ever. Were there any in the party secretariat? Probably very few, if at all.

    This is because that's not how this system worked. It was the usual "bla bla bla" about "equality" that ends up with the men on top (not the brightest or the more moral ones even) and the women doing a ton of "dirty work", having less status.

    Same goes for the current "leadership" of RF, with very few females at the top. I'm not talking about whether this is "good" or "bad", just stating facts.

    Granted, one had to be a party member to hold any somewhat significant post (so these "elderly women" that Beckow mentions were probably Commie party members, even if low status ones).

    Replies: @songbird

    It is clear without even looking that there was not a single female General Secretary – ever. Were there any in the party secretariat?

    Well, I don’t want to get bogged down in a semantics debate, since I think it’s really open to personal interpretation. But my wont is to include the lower rungs in any political system as part of the leadership.

    [MORE]

    The US has never had a female president, but is indisputably a feminist society. More than 70% of Congress is male, but are the power structures really dominated by men, a product of testosterone?

    You can in fact be a man who has a lesbian boss who openly insults men and says it is her job to deconstruct the system that men made. These are the cadres. They would include things like political officers. And anyone on the wrong end of one would think they are important.

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    It’s not necessarily very meaningful, but I think that the fact that the first two women in space were cosmonauts hints at the idea that the Soviet Union was more feminist than the US, at least up until that time. (I think it is more interesting to focus on the cores)

    IMO, it would be very interesting if someone could calculate the inflection point – when the US became more feminist than the USSR or Russia.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    The US has never had a female president, but is indisputably a feminist society.
     
    The US is not "feminist" in the Scandinavian sense. The US is also changing very fast, and there have recently been some policies and practices that are very mother-unfriendly and even woman-unfriendly, so at some point in the future you might feel the negative results of that.

    The US is not as female friendly as Scandinavia. Feminist and female friendly might be two different things, but they often overlap.


    The US has never had a female president
     
    No, and that's funny, given how self-proclaimed "feminist" the US is. But that doesn't mean that back in the Soviet Union, it wasn't some male heavy autocracy. It totally was. However, the younger males also were held to high standards and often had little freedom or life choices.

    What makes you say though that the US is not controlled by men at the top levels? Just because they sometimes enact policies that some women find acceptable? As if there are no rich and powerful men who cater to norms (or rather, the abandonment of norms) that are preferable for men?


    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.
     
    I noticed that. The Eastern Bloc was actually very spartan in their everyday life. That left little space for hedonism. Men were held to very high standards vis a vis women and the state. You can argue that it was the strict system that held it together but it was also unspoken rules of behavior. American men were never held to such standards (past the 1950s or so), even the fundamentalist Christian ones could bail obligations if they wanted to. Women in the Soviet Union didn't have to deal with the pressures that American women are dealing with.

    As to the cartoon you posted, honestly, I can't really see what is so great about the 1989 version (I hope it's an adult cartoon). I'm aware of all these changes that are taking place with regards to the representation of the female body. Very aware (was actually a bit shocked about the change in ads when I walked back into Target for the first time after the Covid shutdown). It's amusing to observe. But frankly, those are just two extremes, as is so typical for America - you start out with over sexualization and objectification of a woman and then you go into the other, opposite extreme (that's taking place now). Some middle of the ground normalcy and taste would be nice.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @S1
    @songbird


    It’s not necessarily very meaningful, but I think that the fact that the first two women in space were cosmonauts hints at the idea that the Soviet Union was more feminist than the US, at least up until that time.
     
    Later in life, the first woman cosmonaut did some interviews. According to her it was all for show and she was given nothing of substance to do once in orbit. They simply wanted a female body in space which is what they got. [There seems to be something of a pattern of this historically with what is called the 'Left' in many of their organizations. A huge show is often made about how much they care about the well being of women, but the reality is that the women in these organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and 'make coffee' for the membership.]

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

  536. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Russian war strategy so indifferent to the destruction of civilian lives and targets
     
    So was Ukrainian strategy when bombing Donbas for 8 years killing 2,500 civilians and destroying everything they could. The bulk of fighters against the Kiev government were Donbas militias - they fought for years mostly alone with arms provided by Russia as Kiev gets Nato arms. It is in many ways also a civil war.

    War is hell, each side will fight with what it has - that's why acting normally was so important. Ukies and Nato just couldn't do it: hatred of Russians, nationalism, Banderism, Western greed and indifference to the Ukie lives.

    When this is over I can guarantee nobody left in Ukraine will celebrate Zelina&Co. or have anything nice to say about Nato. This is a lesson in reality they won't soon forget. But maybe half a million or more Ukies will be gone, was it worth the Nato-dream and the hatred of Russians?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikhail

    Your guarantees and hackneyed opinions are worthless. According to AP you’re an inveterate liar that shouldn’t be trusted. I tend to wholeheartedly agree with him.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Two idiots embracing each other, how appropriate...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  537. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Your guarantees and hackneyed opinions are worthless. According to AP you're an inveterate liar that shouldn't be trusted. I tend to wholeheartedly agree with him.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Two idiots embracing each other, how appropriate…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    https://youtu.be/d56bQeo3wa0
    Catchy, eh? :-)

  538. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Russian war strategy so indifferent to the destruction of civilian lives and targets
     
    So was Ukrainian strategy when bombing Donbas for 8 years killing 2,500 civilians and destroying everything they could. The bulk of fighters against the Kiev government were Donbas militias - they fought for years mostly alone with arms provided by Russia as Kiev gets Nato arms. It is in many ways also a civil war.

    War is hell, each side will fight with what it has - that's why acting normally was so important. Ukies and Nato just couldn't do it: hatred of Russians, nationalism, Banderism, Western greed and indifference to the Ukie lives.

    When this is over I can guarantee nobody left in Ukraine will celebrate Zelina&Co. or have anything nice to say about Nato. This is a lesson in reality they won't soon forget. But maybe half a million or more Ukies will be gone, was it worth the Nato-dream and the hatred of Russians?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikhail

    That 2,500 figure has been reasonably second guessed with the belief that it’s actually higher.

  539. @songbird
    @LatW


    It is clear without even looking that there was not a single female General Secretary – ever. Were there any in the party secretariat?
     
    Well, I don't want to get bogged down in a semantics debate, since I think it's really open to personal interpretation. But my wont is to include the lower rungs in any political system as part of the leadership.

    The US has never had a female president, but is indisputably a feminist society. More than 70% of Congress is male, but are the power structures really dominated by men, a product of testosterone?

    You can in fact be a man who has a lesbian boss who openly insults men and says it is her job to deconstruct the system that men made. These are the cadres. They would include things like political officers. And anyone on the wrong end of one would think they are important.

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    It's not necessarily very meaningful, but I think that the fact that the first two women in space were cosmonauts hints at the idea that the Soviet Union was more feminist than the US, at least up until that time. (I think it is more interesting to focus on the cores)

    IMO, it would be very interesting if someone could calculate the inflection point - when the US became more feminist than the USSR or Russia.

    https://youtu.be/NfvbOYtlThY?si=ofkOA-brAxplPjUo

    Replies: @LatW, @S1

    The US has never had a female president, but is indisputably a feminist society.

    The US is not “feminist” in the Scandinavian sense. The US is also changing very fast, and there have recently been some policies and practices that are very mother-unfriendly and even woman-unfriendly, so at some point in the future you might feel the negative results of that.

    The US is not as female friendly as Scandinavia. Feminist and female friendly might be two different things, but they often overlap.

    The US has never had a female president

    No, and that’s funny, given how self-proclaimed “feminist” the US is. But that doesn’t mean that back in the Soviet Union, it wasn’t some male heavy autocracy. It totally was. However, the younger males also were held to high standards and often had little freedom or life choices.

    What makes you say though that the US is not controlled by men at the top levels? Just because they sometimes enact policies that some women find acceptable? As if there are no rich and powerful men who cater to norms (or rather, the abandonment of norms) that are preferable for men?

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    I noticed that. The Eastern Bloc was actually very spartan in their everyday life. That left little space for hedonism. Men were held to very high standards vis a vis women and the state. You can argue that it was the strict system that held it together but it was also unspoken rules of behavior. American men were never held to such standards (past the 1950s or so), even the fundamentalist Christian ones could bail obligations if they wanted to. Women in the Soviet Union didn’t have to deal with the pressures that American women are dealing with.

    As to the cartoon you posted, honestly, I can’t really see what is so great about the 1989 version (I hope it’s an adult cartoon). I’m aware of all these changes that are taking place with regards to the representation of the female body. Very aware (was actually a bit shocked about the change in ads when I walked back into Target for the first time after the Covid shutdown). It’s amusing to observe. But frankly, those are just two extremes, as is so typical for America – you start out with over sexualization and objectification of a woman and then you go into the other, opposite extreme (that’s taking place now). Some middle of the ground normalcy and taste would be nice.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    The US is not “feminist” in the Scandinavian sense
     
    Well, naturally there are different demographic inputs. I don't think it would be the same, even if the slaves had been resettled in Liberia. But at this point, it seems clear that the Scandi model is not desirable either.

    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women, but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.

    Am sure we haven't seen the height of US feminism yet. I think it will get a lot worse, as the percentage of married women decline and it becomes more PoC feminist.

    What makes you say though that the US is not controlled by men at the top levels?
     
    If it were, Bezos's fortune wouldn't have been split. Manifestly the law does not work in the full interests of oligarch men. Therefore, they don't have full control, even if there is nobody formally above them.

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    >I noticed that.
     
    We can't all be EEs.

    No offense, but do you really remember it that well? Did you experience such a cross-section of it? I don't think I really had a good idea of American politics when I was a teenager, and I wasn't a Normie but an political outlier in a very blue state.

    I once asked a German man who had been a teenager in East Germany a question about whether Russian was mandatory and he answered with confidence that one could choose English or Russian, though this doesn't seem to be correct, as far as I can establish.

    What I seem to notice is that there is an age effect. People above a certain age often have a sort of nostalgia. Maybe, they make too many excuses or it is tied to the pleasures of their youth. People below a certain age (really too young to remember) seem to think as though it was the worst thing ever, which past a certain period is surely an exaggeration.

    As to the cartoon you posted, honestly, I can’t really see what is so great about the 1989 version (I hope it’s an adult cartoon).
     
    basically a Pixar tech demo. They made shorts first because it was impossible to make movies back then.

    I'm not really a huge fan of CGI. (Or 3d animation, though CG is in everything now) I certainly don't consider the thing art, but more an interesting marker for political changes - not necessarily the societal one - but in that microenvironment. (It certainly effects American animation now in a very big way.)

    You'd be surprised but animators were always making these sort of pornographic things for their entertainment. It happened early at Pixar and it happened during the golden age of Disney. The Japanese do it all the time, they will doodle in public spaces, like coffee shops, as well as do it commercially.

    Not to be overcrass, but speaking personally I wouldn't say I am an especial fan of big boobs. (Fake are quite gross) I just see the feminist political domination of depictions as a negative marker. As well, it often effects faces and other featuress and narrative structure and is generally unpleasing.

    The Japanese seem to show an appreciation for both big and small boobs without the politicization or other aspects of it. But their appreciation wouldn't pass the political tests because the stereotype of their depiction is for the small-breasted characters to be jealous of the big-breasted ones. And they would never depict ugly faces.

    Replies: @LatW, @Coconuts

  540. After terrorist attack in Crocus the war in Ukraine got more brutal. The RF army used to exterminate foreign mercs on sight, but treat Ukies differently, take them prisoners. This week (April 20-27) about 8,000 Ukies were killed, but only 15 taken prisoner.

    I hope justified hatred of Kiev puppets never turns into tribal hatred of Ukrainians. After all, Ukraine is a textbook example how rabid nationalism ruins a country.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The war is coarsening. The giggling Western celebration of Crocus turned into whining that power is off in Kharkov. The second front! enthusiasts like LatW are pensive, they sense the end is near.


    I hope justified hatred of Kiev puppets never turns into tribal hatred of Ukrainians.
     
    I do too. Ukies are an unlucky nation, too varied internally, frustrated, lashing at neighbors, dreaming of paradise somewhere north-west of Iceland, cargo cult desperados led by some real pieces of sh..t...

    Is there responsibility for being that stupid? Naivete exists all over the world, but the lemming march of Ukies for Nato is unique in its scope, destructiveness and idiocy.

    Replies: @LatW

  541. S1 says:
    @songbird
    @LatW


    It is clear without even looking that there was not a single female General Secretary – ever. Were there any in the party secretariat?
     
    Well, I don't want to get bogged down in a semantics debate, since I think it's really open to personal interpretation. But my wont is to include the lower rungs in any political system as part of the leadership.

    The US has never had a female president, but is indisputably a feminist society. More than 70% of Congress is male, but are the power structures really dominated by men, a product of testosterone?

    You can in fact be a man who has a lesbian boss who openly insults men and says it is her job to deconstruct the system that men made. These are the cadres. They would include things like political officers. And anyone on the wrong end of one would think they are important.

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    It's not necessarily very meaningful, but I think that the fact that the first two women in space were cosmonauts hints at the idea that the Soviet Union was more feminist than the US, at least up until that time. (I think it is more interesting to focus on the cores)

    IMO, it would be very interesting if someone could calculate the inflection point - when the US became more feminist than the USSR or Russia.

    https://youtu.be/NfvbOYtlThY?si=ofkOA-brAxplPjUo

    Replies: @LatW, @S1

    It’s not necessarily very meaningful, but I think that the fact that the first two women in space were cosmonauts hints at the idea that the Soviet Union was more feminist than the US, at least up until that time.

    Later in life, the first woman cosmonaut did some interviews. According to her it was all for show and she was given nothing of substance to do once in orbit. They simply wanted a female body in space which is what they got. [There seems to be something of a pattern of this historically with what is called the ‘Left’ in many of their organizations. A huge show is often made about how much they care about the well being of women, but the reality is that the women in these organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and ‘make coffee’ for the membership.]

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @S1


    the reality is that the women in these organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and ‘make coffee’ for the membership.
     
    That describes the organizations of self-proclaimed left and self-proclaimed right equally. There is no left-right divide in treatment of women. The attitude of men to women is purely individual and does not correlate with political affiliation.

    BTW, treatment of women as equal humans has nothing to do with feminism (or any other -ism, for that matter).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @songbird
    @S1


    According to her it was all for show and she was given nothing of substance to do once in orbit. They simply wanted a female body
     
    Definitely, you can tell by how long the follow up - the second female cosmonaut was. I read astronaut Scott Kelly's book and he interacted a lot with Russians involved in their space program and said that was their opinion of her, an AA case.

    organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and ‘make coffee
     
    am not sure this is still the case in 2024 Japan, but Japan was certainly like that in the '90s. That is, women, whatever their jobs were the ones expected to make coffee or tea.

    I honestly admire them for it. I feel like it is good to have some division of sexes, even if it is reduced to such a small, drudge task, it seems to carry a symbolic value or virtue. And probably such a workplace is immune to trannies or lesbians.

    Replies: @S1

  542. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Two idiots embracing each other, how appropriate...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Catchy, eh? 🙂

  543. @S1
    @songbird


    It’s not necessarily very meaningful, but I think that the fact that the first two women in space were cosmonauts hints at the idea that the Soviet Union was more feminist than the US, at least up until that time.
     
    Later in life, the first woman cosmonaut did some interviews. According to her it was all for show and she was given nothing of substance to do once in orbit. They simply wanted a female body in space which is what they got. [There seems to be something of a pattern of this historically with what is called the 'Left' in many of their organizations. A huge show is often made about how much they care about the well being of women, but the reality is that the women in these organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and 'make coffee' for the membership.]

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    the reality is that the women in these organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and ‘make coffee’ for the membership.

    That describes the organizations of self-proclaimed left and self-proclaimed right equally. There is no left-right divide in treatment of women. The attitude of men to women is purely individual and does not correlate with political affiliation.

    BTW, treatment of women as equal humans has nothing to do with feminism (or any other -ism, for that matter).

    • Disagree: S1
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes but in practice the guys that score the most generally treat women like trash. The most successful player I ever knew when queried about this oddity said to me, "women are masochistic". I don't think it's that simple. This guy was bright but not any kind of a genius.

    This info is from personal anecdotes. I have no idea how it squares with dedicated research. Did you see the David Buss interview on Huberman?

    This guy:

    https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Desire-Strategies-Human-Mating/dp/046500802X

    I need to go back and watch that again now that it's come out Andrew Huberman is the Tiger Woods of the academic system.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

  544. @AnonfromTN
    After terrorist attack in Crocus the war in Ukraine got more brutal. The RF army used to exterminate foreign mercs on sight, but treat Ukies differently, take them prisoners. This week (April 20-27) about 8,000 Ukies were killed, but only 15 taken prisoner.

    I hope justified hatred of Kiev puppets never turns into tribal hatred of Ukrainians. After all, Ukraine is a textbook example how rabid nationalism ruins a country.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The war is coarsening. The giggling Western celebration of Crocus turned into whining that power is off in Kharkov. The second front! enthusiasts like LatW are pensive, they sense the end is near.

    I hope justified hatred of Kiev puppets never turns into tribal hatred of Ukrainians.

    I do too. Ukies are an unlucky nation, too varied internally, frustrated, lashing at neighbors, dreaming of paradise somewhere north-west of Iceland, cargo cult desperados led by some real pieces of sh..t…

    Is there responsibility for being that stupid? Naivete exists all over the world, but the lemming march of Ukies for Nato is unique in its scope, destructiveness and idiocy.

    • Troll: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    The second front! enthusiasts like LatW are pensive, they sense the end is near.
     
    The "end" of what exactly?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow

  545. @AnonfromTN
    @S1


    the reality is that the women in these organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and ‘make coffee’ for the membership.
     
    That describes the organizations of self-proclaimed left and self-proclaimed right equally. There is no left-right divide in treatment of women. The attitude of men to women is purely individual and does not correlate with political affiliation.

    BTW, treatment of women as equal humans has nothing to do with feminism (or any other -ism, for that matter).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes but in practice the guys that score the most generally treat women like trash. The most successful player I ever knew when queried about this oddity said to me, “women are masochistic”. I don’t think it’s that simple. This guy was bright but not any kind of a genius.

    This info is from personal anecdotes. I have no idea how it squares with dedicated research. Did you see the David Buss interview on Huberman?

    This guy:

    https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Desire-Strategies-Human-Mating/dp/046500802X

    I need to go back and watch that again now that it’s come out Andrew Huberman is the Tiger Woods of the academic system.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes
     
    Should we run our society as a whole based on "what is advantageous for dudes" (or rather - short term interests of only select type of dudes, not even every single one of them)? Or should we care about a society that is stable and thriving for the majority?

    No woman can take long term the kind of "relations" that I suspect are described in the book above.

    I wouldn't call the above a "feminist" message but rather a rational and utilitarian one. For long term relationships, for marriage and for children it is better that the father and husband treats the woman well. It's also better "for the dudes" at the end of the day because married men live longer and healthier lives.

    Huberman was only able to get away with all that stuff because he is an "optimizer" and because he was dishonest. And because marriage and family were never his goals (unlike for many normal men out there). We are seeing more and more optimizers in our culture, both male and female. We don't know how this could end... or maybe we already do.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes but in practice the guys that score the most generally treat women like trash.
     
    I think you are lumping together apples and oranges. Most people of both sexes are not very intellectual (dumb is an impolite, but adequate description). If you want success with women with low intelligence, it’s advantageous to treat them like trash. If you are only interested in intelligent women and want to be successful with them, you have to treat them as equals.

    That’s my personal experience. I am only interested in 7-10% of the smartest women (I don’t see a difference between having sex with a dumb woman and a she-goat: the anatomy is pretty much the same. Smart women I am interested in have to be treated like equals (that comes naturally to me). But a relationship between two intelligent beings is more challenging and complicated than mere sex. Personally, I prefer things that are complex and intellectually challenging: women, music, literature, etc. But that’s a matter of taste.
  546. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes but in practice the guys that score the most generally treat women like trash. The most successful player I ever knew when queried about this oddity said to me, "women are masochistic". I don't think it's that simple. This guy was bright but not any kind of a genius.

    This info is from personal anecdotes. I have no idea how it squares with dedicated research. Did you see the David Buss interview on Huberman?

    This guy:

    https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Desire-Strategies-Human-Mating/dp/046500802X

    I need to go back and watch that again now that it's come out Andrew Huberman is the Tiger Woods of the academic system.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes

    Should we run our society as a whole based on “what is advantageous for dudes” (or rather – short term interests of only select type of dudes, not even every single one of them)? Or should we care about a society that is stable and thriving for the majority?

    No woman can take long term the kind of “relations” that I suspect are described in the book above.

    I wouldn’t call the above a “feminist” message but rather a rational and utilitarian one. For long term relationships, for marriage and for children it is better that the father and husband treats the woman well. It’s also better “for the dudes” at the end of the day because married men live longer and healthier lives.

    Huberman was only able to get away with all that stuff because he is an “optimizer” and because he was dishonest. And because marriage and family were never his goals (unlike for many normal men out there). We are seeing more and more optimizers in our culture, both male and female. We don’t know how this could end… or maybe we already do.

    • Agree: S1
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Tell us some more about your ex- who was in the Death Metal Band.

    Ha ha just kidding. The golden rule is called that for excellent reasons. Buss is writing about populations. There we might want to use more of a silver bullet rule. Different rules for the job and for the home. : )

    As for Huberman, that is an issue we will never resolve. Like I was saying, if you achieve all of your goals you did not aim high enough. He was found out only because his trusted partner was snooping on his phone. Howley didn't ask her about suspicious minds and justified snooping or if she did that wasn't in the article. Spying is a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia in the DSM. Healthy people do not spy on their loved ones.

    Replies: @LatW

  547. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The war is coarsening. The giggling Western celebration of Crocus turned into whining that power is off in Kharkov. The second front! enthusiasts like LatW are pensive, they sense the end is near.


    I hope justified hatred of Kiev puppets never turns into tribal hatred of Ukrainians.
     
    I do too. Ukies are an unlucky nation, too varied internally, frustrated, lashing at neighbors, dreaming of paradise somewhere north-west of Iceland, cargo cult desperados led by some real pieces of sh..t...

    Is there responsibility for being that stupid? Naivete exists all over the world, but the lemming march of Ukies for Nato is unique in its scope, destructiveness and idiocy.

    Replies: @LatW

    The second front! enthusiasts like LatW are pensive, they sense the end is near.

    The “end” of what exactly?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    Apparently Beckow think that there's going to be a large exodus of Ukrainians to Greenland. He's getting kookier and kookier by the day:


    Ukies are an unlucky nation, too varied internally, frustrated, lashing at neighbors, dreaming of paradise somewhere north-west of Iceland,
     
    I think that he's somewhere in his garage checking out the latest batch of Palinka. :-)

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...The “end” of what exactly?
     
    The end of the Western plan to turn Ukraine into an anti-Russia Ukie-nationalist country with Nato bases. That was the plan and it failed. 100k's Ukies died for it and millions permanently left Ukraine.

    Now in the clean-up phase the goal is to make it as bloody as possible so Russia pays for its victory. What was it good for? How did Ukrainians benefit? Unless they just wanted to emigrate and the Nato-plan made it much easier. And steal as much as they can from the Western aid in the process. And MIC...

  548. @LatW
    @Beckow


    The second front! enthusiasts like LatW are pensive, they sense the end is near.
     
    The "end" of what exactly?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow

    Apparently Beckow think that there’s going to be a large exodus of Ukrainians to Greenland. He’s getting kookier and kookier by the day:

    Ukies are an unlucky nation, too varied internally, frustrated, lashing at neighbors, dreaming of paradise somewhere north-west of Iceland,

    I think that he’s somewhere in his garage checking out the latest batch of Palinka. 🙂

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. Hack

    I know what he's talking about (infatuation with the North-West, I had it, too, as a kid and in my early 20s), but he's exaggerating as always - most EEs are not that way and it doesn't mean that, even if they have this syndrome, they are not patriots, on the contrary, they are more so than others. I've only seen a few Ukrainians have it, not even most. Most just want to be left alone in their own country.

    What I find pretty insulting though is how they pretend that there is no "tribal hatred of Ukrainians" by Russians - yea, right, killing thousands of people on their own soil, just like that, to them is not a sign of hatred. When it is actually the epitome of it. Some Russians openly state "there should be fewer of you".

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

  549. @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    Apparently Beckow think that there's going to be a large exodus of Ukrainians to Greenland. He's getting kookier and kookier by the day:


    Ukies are an unlucky nation, too varied internally, frustrated, lashing at neighbors, dreaming of paradise somewhere north-west of Iceland,
     
    I think that he's somewhere in his garage checking out the latest batch of Palinka. :-)

    Replies: @LatW

    I know what he’s talking about (infatuation with the North-West, I had it, too, as a kid and in my early 20s), but he’s exaggerating as always – most EEs are not that way and it doesn’t mean that, even if they have this syndrome, they are not patriots, on the contrary, they are more so than others. I’ve only seen a few Ukrainians have it, not even most. Most just want to be left alone in their own country.

    What I find pretty insulting though is how they pretend that there is no “tribal hatred of Ukrainians” by Russians – yea, right, killing thousands of people on their own soil, just like that, to them is not a sign of hatred. When it is actually the epitome of it. Some Russians openly state “there should be fewer of you”.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...infatuation with the North-West
     
    You got that right - West by North-West is the best! the swarthy Mediterraneans are suspiciously un-Western..It must be Greenland or some mythical NW dreamland. (Look up the ancient Ultima Thule for an early example of the phenomenon.)

    I don't think they all have it or that it is permanent. It comes and goes, there are bursts of total Western devotion and then it calms down. It is the root of Ukie misfortunate: they bought a bill of goods that is destroying them because they had the "Western" mania... (Many Russians, Chinese and others have it too, but not as bad.)


    they pretend there is no “tribal hatred of Ukrainians” by Russians
     
    I have never claimed that - tribal hatreds are eventually always mutual. It looked like the Russians were not really into it, but by now they hate with the best of them. That is the tragedy here - that Ukies and the West triggered an emotional response in Russia that could go pretty far now. Putin is a moderate, but imagine Russians will for years watch movies about Donbas killings, Odessa massacre, Crocus, the gleeful Western celebrations - US Senators yelling "kill more Russians!". It is easy.

    What did you think was going to happen? Ukies will now pay a price. I am not entirely sure that will be the end of it.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    Thanks for trying to possibly help me understand Beckow's inclinations towards the great North-West. Actually, I've experienced a similar phenomenon in my owns life. As a teenager/young adult I would often go camping to the great North Shore of Minnesota that hugs Lake Superior. I would hike through many areas where there were streams and waterfalls, small mountains too (I made it to the top of Eagle Mountain, the highest natural spot in all of Minnesota). Perhaps, the apogee of these trips was when I once traveled into the BWCA (Boundary Waters Canoe Area), a place shared on the borders of the the US and Canada. Well, to this day I often have dreams where I visit these lands in the north country, where some of the imagery is unknown to me (large granite mountains, very big waterfalls, etc.). The dreams are quite vivid and full of adventure. The north country is indeed full of wonders galore.

    https://www.goodfreephotos.com/albums/united-states/minnesota/gooseberry-falls-state-park/minnesota-gooseberry-falls-falls-scenery.jpg
    Gooseberry Falls Stat Park

  550. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    If a crazy cult from Siberia boondocks came to US and tried to convert half of Utah, do you think the local Mormons would ‘suppress‘ them? You bet they would
     
    No, they wouldn't. That's not in their character at all. They would take advantage of the situation and send legions of missionaries to the Siberian shamanists' houses to try to convert them instead. They would probably succeed, through the power of sheer numbers and persistence. The most likely outcome of such an experiment would be the shamanists returning to Siberia converted to some syncretic Mormonism and building a temple there with LDS Church funds.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …send legions of missionaries to the Siberian shamanists’ houses to try to convert them instead.

    You are probably right, never underestimate the power of fanatic belief…:)

    It doesn’t dispute that Mormons would find a way to suppress it. Imagine they would fail and the Siberians would start getting the upper hand – Provo is going ‘shamanist’. Don’t you think other methods would be tried? The prayer house burns down, traffic tickets and fines…if all of it failed there is always the “foreign agent” label…

    You are not that different, you are just less aware of it…:)

  551. @LatW
    @songbird


    The US has never had a female president, but is indisputably a feminist society.
     
    The US is not "feminist" in the Scandinavian sense. The US is also changing very fast, and there have recently been some policies and practices that are very mother-unfriendly and even woman-unfriendly, so at some point in the future you might feel the negative results of that.

    The US is not as female friendly as Scandinavia. Feminist and female friendly might be two different things, but they often overlap.


    The US has never had a female president
     
    No, and that's funny, given how self-proclaimed "feminist" the US is. But that doesn't mean that back in the Soviet Union, it wasn't some male heavy autocracy. It totally was. However, the younger males also were held to high standards and often had little freedom or life choices.

    What makes you say though that the US is not controlled by men at the top levels? Just because they sometimes enact policies that some women find acceptable? As if there are no rich and powerful men who cater to norms (or rather, the abandonment of norms) that are preferable for men?


    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.
     
    I noticed that. The Eastern Bloc was actually very spartan in their everyday life. That left little space for hedonism. Men were held to very high standards vis a vis women and the state. You can argue that it was the strict system that held it together but it was also unspoken rules of behavior. American men were never held to such standards (past the 1950s or so), even the fundamentalist Christian ones could bail obligations if they wanted to. Women in the Soviet Union didn't have to deal with the pressures that American women are dealing with.

    As to the cartoon you posted, honestly, I can't really see what is so great about the 1989 version (I hope it's an adult cartoon). I'm aware of all these changes that are taking place with regards to the representation of the female body. Very aware (was actually a bit shocked about the change in ads when I walked back into Target for the first time after the Covid shutdown). It's amusing to observe. But frankly, those are just two extremes, as is so typical for America - you start out with over sexualization and objectification of a woman and then you go into the other, opposite extreme (that's taking place now). Some middle of the ground normalcy and taste would be nice.

    Replies: @songbird

    The US is not “feminist” in the Scandinavian sense

    Well, naturally there are different demographic inputs. I don’t think it would be the same, even if the slaves had been resettled in Liberia. But at this point, it seems clear that the Scandi model is not desirable either.

    [MORE]

    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women, but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.

    Am sure we haven’t seen the height of US feminism yet. I think it will get a lot worse, as the percentage of married women decline and it becomes more PoC feminist.

    What makes you say though that the US is not controlled by men at the top levels?

    If it were, Bezos’s fortune wouldn’t have been split. Manifestly the law does not work in the full interests of oligarch men. Therefore, they don’t have full control, even if there is nobody formally above them.

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    >I noticed that.

    We can’t all be EEs.

    No offense, but do you really remember it that well? Did you experience such a cross-section of it? I don’t think I really had a good idea of American politics when I was a teenager, and I wasn’t a Normie but an political outlier in a very blue state.

    I once asked a German man who had been a teenager in East Germany a question about whether Russian was mandatory and he answered with confidence that one could choose English or Russian, though this doesn’t seem to be correct, as far as I can establish.

    What I seem to notice is that there is an age effect. People above a certain age often have a sort of nostalgia. Maybe, they make too many excuses or it is tied to the pleasures of their youth. People below a certain age (really too young to remember) seem to think as though it was the worst thing ever, which past a certain period is surely an exaggeration.

    As to the cartoon you posted, honestly, I can’t really see what is so great about the 1989 version (I hope it’s an adult cartoon).

    basically a Pixar tech demo. They made shorts first because it was impossible to make movies back then.

    I’m not really a huge fan of CGI. (Or 3d animation, though CG is in everything now) I certainly don’t consider the thing art, but more an interesting marker for political changes – not necessarily the societal one – but in that microenvironment. (It certainly effects American animation now in a very big way.)

    You’d be surprised but animators were always making these sort of pornographic things for their entertainment. It happened early at Pixar and it happened during the golden age of Disney. The Japanese do it all the time, they will doodle in public spaces, like coffee shops, as well as do it commercially.

    Not to be overcrass, but speaking personally I wouldn’t say I am an especial fan of big boobs. (Fake are quite gross) I just see the feminist political domination of depictions as a negative marker. As well, it often effects faces and other featuress and narrative structure and is generally unpleasing.

    The Japanese seem to show an appreciation for both big and small boobs without the politicization or other aspects of it. But their appreciation wouldn’t pass the political tests because the stereotype of their depiction is for the small-breasted characters to be jealous of the big-breasted ones. And they would never depict ugly faces.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women
     
    It may contribute to women's happiness in some ways, but it may take away in other ways. Although happiness is an intangible term, that's something that doesn't necessarily depend on the political system. Wellbeing might be a better word.

    but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.
     
    Well, you're making it sound as if feminism is responsible for the mass invasion. These things are connected, but feminism is not the cause of the invasion. Rather, it could be that those things that caused the rise of feminism, could in fact be the reason for that. What is interesting is if there could be a society where women are relatively free where the invasion is not allowed - such a society existed in Finland until very recently. Of course, in the Baltics as well in the 1930s. Maybe Germany, too. So this was all possible. This goes to show that feminism may not be the cause but just the symptom of something bigger. Or there is something else at play, such as economic considerations (such as globalized trade, etc).

    If it were, Bezos’s fortune wouldn’t have been split.
     
    I don't think there ever was a society where the wife (and children) of a high status man were not protected. Also, you forget that countless women (of lower status) contributed to Bezos' wealth. Also, didn't the wife marry him when he was not yet rich? Afaik, this used to be the case for most American wives, at least back when people married early. When you marry early enough, the wife actually contributes to the man getting wealthy so it is partly earned by the wife and should belong to her. This is more of the traditional way - not the feminist one, the feminist one, in this case, might be a worse deal for conscientious women who do the right thing long term and invest in family.

    What I meant with my original question was that there are many high status men out there (especially in tech and such) who prioritize individualism, liberalism (and even libertinism) as an ideology. Even push that ideology sometimes. And this benefits a lot of men, too (in the short term).

    No offense, but do you really remember it that well?
     
    I remember quite a bit, and I've also spoken a lot with my father, I remember asking him about the life in the 70s and some of his life in the 80s with his friends. He told me a little about his mandatory military service in the Soviet army - alas, I didn't ask him enough about that, because I wasn't interested enough. I remember most of the things that are sex related and attire / appearance related, habits, sports, customs, etc. Ofc, I was not sexually active myself, nor directly exposed to it, but I have asked older people about it and read in the magazines of those times. Sexual relations were quite different back then (although of course the instincts were there, they were just controlled more).

    Well, what was your original reason for posting this Pixar thing? To show that it is bad that the unrealistic boobs are gone? The Japanese do a lot of unrealistic representations as well, such as a woman with a prepubescent girl's face and huge breast. Nothing against the breasts, of course, it's just not realistic. Btw, they still have in American games, too, they haven't removed these yet.

    I think the most important thing to see here for guys such as yourself is that it looks like these wokes have concluded that the ether doesn't belong only to you, but to everyone. So they will not just visually please the men from now on. Tbh, I haven't taken the time to figure out their agenda (I don't find the left wing agenda all too interesting), and, yes, I admit that some of it is going a bit far.

    Btw, I really liked the video of those white birds that you posted - they look so airy and delicate, like marshmallows. Didn't know such existed, looked like some snow partridge.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Coconuts
    @songbird

    Interesting, what LatW was writing reminded me of my own impression of Soviet feminism. One of my grandmothers was a kind of working-class feminist, but the feminism of the 1930s and 40s. Soviet feminism always reminded me of that, more austere than the Western versions, even into the 80s. I know my wife was always finding her views were closer to my older relatives. Possibly one of the counter-intuitive ways the Soviet revolution proved to be more socially conservative than the neo-liberal revolution of the 1980s.

    There is this famous Soviet era war film, which shows a different form of feminism, from earlier in the 20th century:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_7QP-gIVew

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq8E4lIdEzA


    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women, but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.
     
    This is a feature of some of the more radical Western forms of feminism. I have seen it in American and Australian feminists who present Islam in a favourable light as a natural ally against white patriarchy. And one of the French nationalist magazines, Livre noir, just presented the results of a long investigation they carried out by infiltrating a reporter into various french far-left feminist activist groups, who revealed all the contacts they had with jihadis and other Islamist groups.

    Ed Dutton might have some of the explanation for this, when he talks about how extreme feminists can actually be more attracted to dominant and transgressive male types. Otherwise it is like the usual revolutionary tactic of fostering division and polarised conflict that is supposed to result in the overthrow of the oppressor group, just the results are more likely to be disastrous if it involves European feminists trying to ally with Islamists. I would guess that most European women who have contact with large Muslim communities will understand they are not natural allies for promoting feminism.

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

  552. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes
     
    Should we run our society as a whole based on "what is advantageous for dudes" (or rather - short term interests of only select type of dudes, not even every single one of them)? Or should we care about a society that is stable and thriving for the majority?

    No woman can take long term the kind of "relations" that I suspect are described in the book above.

    I wouldn't call the above a "feminist" message but rather a rational and utilitarian one. For long term relationships, for marriage and for children it is better that the father and husband treats the woman well. It's also better "for the dudes" at the end of the day because married men live longer and healthier lives.

    Huberman was only able to get away with all that stuff because he is an "optimizer" and because he was dishonest. And because marriage and family were never his goals (unlike for many normal men out there). We are seeing more and more optimizers in our culture, both male and female. We don't know how this could end... or maybe we already do.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Tell us some more about your ex- who was in the Death Metal Band.

    Ha ha just kidding. The golden rule is called that for excellent reasons. Buss is writing about populations. There we might want to use more of a silver bullet rule. Different rules for the job and for the home. : )

    As for Huberman, that is an issue we will never resolve. Like I was saying, if you achieve all of your goals you did not aim high enough. He was found out only because his trusted partner was snooping on his phone. Howley didn’t ask her about suspicious minds and justified snooping or if she did that wasn’t in the article. Spying is a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia in the DSM. Healthy people do not spy on their loved ones.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Tell us some more about your ex- who was in the Death Metal Band.
     
    He was in a symphonic black metal band - that's very different. He was a lyricist and a poet. He was not that bad actually (and very young). He never cheated either (and he was rather chaste and extremely picky in some ways). We were competing a little about "who is smarter / cooler", when you start doing that it turns into the "who has the upper hand" and that's not good, that was the main issue there. :) I shouldn't have done that, because many guys don't like that, it causes unnecessary tension. :) His last girlfriend dumped him, btw, so now he lives on the country side, alone with his huskies, hahahaha.

    My point still stands - how is this good for the culture, for progeny? Women's instincts need to be reigned in, too.

    Also, most women won't tolerate being treated like crap, they'll bail or become neurotic, etc. Also, enjoying some occassional maledom doesn't mean one wants to be trampled in their real life.


    As for Huberman, that is an issue we will never resolve. Like I was saying, if you achieve all of your goals you did not aim high enough.
     
    Frankly, I don't get what is so special about him. Guys have done this through out history, even women have done this. There were aristocrats that had many lovers, etc., Princess Bathory and such. Those are even crazier. Huberman is just sneaky. He's a Jew, come on. :)

    The issue with him was not that he had multiple partners simultaneously, but that, as a wellness coach, he was pretending to know better what is good for others. And that optimizers are selfish. If everyone becomes an optimizer, then society will lose all of the cohesion. Not sure guys like Huberman should be "opinion makers" for the masses. LOL Then again, who cares if he just sticks with the dopamine talk.


    Healthy people do not spy on their loved ones.
     
    (Morally) healthy people do not date 4 people at the same time (without telling them).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

  553. @S1
    @songbird


    It’s not necessarily very meaningful, but I think that the fact that the first two women in space were cosmonauts hints at the idea that the Soviet Union was more feminist than the US, at least up until that time.
     
    Later in life, the first woman cosmonaut did some interviews. According to her it was all for show and she was given nothing of substance to do once in orbit. They simply wanted a female body in space which is what they got. [There seems to be something of a pattern of this historically with what is called the 'Left' in many of their organizations. A huge show is often made about how much they care about the well being of women, but the reality is that the women in these organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and 'make coffee' for the membership.]

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    According to her it was all for show and she was given nothing of substance to do once in orbit. They simply wanted a female body

    Definitely, you can tell by how long the follow up – the second female cosmonaut was. I read astronaut Scott Kelly’s book and he interacted a lot with Russians involved in their space program and said that was their opinion of her, an AA case.

    organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and ‘make coffee

    am not sure this is still the case in 2024 Japan, but Japan was certainly like that in the ’90s. That is, women, whatever their jobs were the ones expected to make coffee or tea.

    I honestly admire them for it. I feel like it is good to have some division of sexes, even if it is reduced to such a small, drudge task, it seems to carry a symbolic value or virtue. And probably such a workplace is immune to trannies or lesbians.

    • Replies: @S1
    @songbird


    I feel like it is good to have some division of sexes, even if it is reduced to such a small, drudge task, it seems to carry a symbolic value or virtue.
     
    As you imply, while there are certainly many similarities between men and women, there are also some natural organic differences between the sexes as well, which should be respected. The whole should be taken into account.

    The problem with the 'equality' (which literally means 'sameness') fanatics is that those differences are quite real and attempting to wish them away or pretend they aren't there won't change things, ie the typical 30 percent plus muscle mass difference between men and women, and women have babies and men don't, etc.

    Attempting to ignore this reality is getting women killed and men seriously hurt.

    [That's not to say that in the past there weren't (and aren't) serious abuses of women taking place, and real problems in the relationship between the sexes that need working on. However, for the reasons outlined, I suppose I'm a bit more into the idea of fairness, a real fairness, rather than 'equality'.]

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  554. @LatW
    @Mr. Hack

    I know what he's talking about (infatuation with the North-West, I had it, too, as a kid and in my early 20s), but he's exaggerating as always - most EEs are not that way and it doesn't mean that, even if they have this syndrome, they are not patriots, on the contrary, they are more so than others. I've only seen a few Ukrainians have it, not even most. Most just want to be left alone in their own country.

    What I find pretty insulting though is how they pretend that there is no "tribal hatred of Ukrainians" by Russians - yea, right, killing thousands of people on their own soil, just like that, to them is not a sign of hatred. When it is actually the epitome of it. Some Russians openly state "there should be fewer of you".

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    …infatuation with the North-West

    You got that right – West by North-West is the best! the swarthy Mediterraneans are suspiciously un-Western..It must be Greenland or some mythical NW dreamland. (Look up the ancient Ultima Thule for an early example of the phenomenon.)

    I don’t think they all have it or that it is permanent. It comes and goes, there are bursts of total Western devotion and then it calms down. It is the root of Ukie misfortunate: they bought a bill of goods that is destroying them because they had the “Western” mania… (Many Russians, Chinese and others have it too, but not as bad.)

    they pretend there is no “tribal hatred of Ukrainians” by Russians

    I have never claimed that – tribal hatreds are eventually always mutual. It looked like the Russians were not really into it, but by now they hate with the best of them. That is the tragedy here – that Ukies and the West triggered an emotional response in Russia that could go pretty far now. Putin is a moderate, but imagine Russians will for years watch movies about Donbas killings, Odessa massacre, Crocus, the gleeful Western celebrations – US Senators yelling “kill more Russians!“. It is easy.

    What did you think was going to happen? Ukies will now pay a price. I am not entirely sure that will be the end of it.

  555. @songbird
    @LatW


    The US is not “feminist” in the Scandinavian sense
     
    Well, naturally there are different demographic inputs. I don't think it would be the same, even if the slaves had been resettled in Liberia. But at this point, it seems clear that the Scandi model is not desirable either.

    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women, but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.

    Am sure we haven't seen the height of US feminism yet. I think it will get a lot worse, as the percentage of married women decline and it becomes more PoC feminist.

    What makes you say though that the US is not controlled by men at the top levels?
     
    If it were, Bezos's fortune wouldn't have been split. Manifestly the law does not work in the full interests of oligarch men. Therefore, they don't have full control, even if there is nobody formally above them.

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    >I noticed that.
     
    We can't all be EEs.

    No offense, but do you really remember it that well? Did you experience such a cross-section of it? I don't think I really had a good idea of American politics when I was a teenager, and I wasn't a Normie but an political outlier in a very blue state.

    I once asked a German man who had been a teenager in East Germany a question about whether Russian was mandatory and he answered with confidence that one could choose English or Russian, though this doesn't seem to be correct, as far as I can establish.

    What I seem to notice is that there is an age effect. People above a certain age often have a sort of nostalgia. Maybe, they make too many excuses or it is tied to the pleasures of their youth. People below a certain age (really too young to remember) seem to think as though it was the worst thing ever, which past a certain period is surely an exaggeration.

    As to the cartoon you posted, honestly, I can’t really see what is so great about the 1989 version (I hope it’s an adult cartoon).
     
    basically a Pixar tech demo. They made shorts first because it was impossible to make movies back then.

    I'm not really a huge fan of CGI. (Or 3d animation, though CG is in everything now) I certainly don't consider the thing art, but more an interesting marker for political changes - not necessarily the societal one - but in that microenvironment. (It certainly effects American animation now in a very big way.)

    You'd be surprised but animators were always making these sort of pornographic things for their entertainment. It happened early at Pixar and it happened during the golden age of Disney. The Japanese do it all the time, they will doodle in public spaces, like coffee shops, as well as do it commercially.

    Not to be overcrass, but speaking personally I wouldn't say I am an especial fan of big boobs. (Fake are quite gross) I just see the feminist political domination of depictions as a negative marker. As well, it often effects faces and other featuress and narrative structure and is generally unpleasing.

    The Japanese seem to show an appreciation for both big and small boobs without the politicization or other aspects of it. But their appreciation wouldn't pass the political tests because the stereotype of their depiction is for the small-breasted characters to be jealous of the big-breasted ones. And they would never depict ugly faces.

    Replies: @LatW, @Coconuts

    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women

    It may contribute to women’s happiness in some ways, but it may take away in other ways. Although happiness is an intangible term, that’s something that doesn’t necessarily depend on the political system. Wellbeing might be a better word.

    but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.

    Well, you’re making it sound as if feminism is responsible for the mass invasion. These things are connected, but feminism is not the cause of the invasion. Rather, it could be that those things that caused the rise of feminism, could in fact be the reason for that. What is interesting is if there could be a society where women are relatively free where the invasion is not allowed – such a society existed in Finland until very recently. Of course, in the Baltics as well in the 1930s. Maybe Germany, too. So this was all possible. This goes to show that feminism may not be the cause but just the symptom of something bigger. Or there is something else at play, such as economic considerations (such as globalized trade, etc).

    If it were, Bezos’s fortune wouldn’t have been split.

    I don’t think there ever was a society where the wife (and children) of a high status man were not protected. Also, you forget that countless women (of lower status) contributed to Bezos’ wealth. Also, didn’t the wife marry him when he was not yet rich? Afaik, this used to be the case for most American wives, at least back when people married early. When you marry early enough, the wife actually contributes to the man getting wealthy so it is partly earned by the wife and should belong to her. This is more of the traditional way – not the feminist one, the feminist one, in this case, might be a worse deal for conscientious women who do the right thing long term and invest in family.

    What I meant with my original question was that there are many high status men out there (especially in tech and such) who prioritize individualism, liberalism (and even libertinism) as an ideology. Even push that ideology sometimes. And this benefits a lot of men, too (in the short term).

    No offense, but do you really remember it that well?

    I remember quite a bit, and I’ve also spoken a lot with my father, I remember asking him about the life in the 70s and some of his life in the 80s with his friends. He told me a little about his mandatory military service in the Soviet army – alas, I didn’t ask him enough about that, because I wasn’t interested enough. I remember most of the things that are sex related and attire / appearance related, habits, sports, customs, etc. Ofc, I was not sexually active myself, nor directly exposed to it, but I have asked older people about it and read in the magazines of those times. Sexual relations were quite different back then (although of course the instincts were there, they were just controlled more).

    [MORE]

    Well, what was your original reason for posting this Pixar thing? To show that it is bad that the unrealistic boobs are gone? The Japanese do a lot of unrealistic representations as well, such as a woman with a prepubescent girl’s face and huge breast. Nothing against the breasts, of course, it’s just not realistic. Btw, they still have in American games, too, they haven’t removed these yet.

    I think the most important thing to see here for guys such as yourself is that it looks like these wokes have concluded that the ether doesn’t belong only to you, but to everyone. So they will not just visually please the men from now on. Tbh, I haven’t taken the time to figure out their agenda (I don’t find the left wing agenda all too interesting), and, yes, I admit that some of it is going a bit far.

    Btw, I really liked the video of those white birds that you posted – they look so airy and delicate, like marshmallows. Didn’t know such existed, looked like some snow partridge.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Well, you’re making it sound as if feminism is responsible for the mass invasion.
     
    not entirely, but I think it is probably a necessary component.

    Well, what was your original reason for posting this Pixar thing?
     
    am always interested in signals. Breasts are a great signal of sexual mores because the typical man is very interested in them.

    I don't even think big boobs in things is necessarily good. To a certain extent, they are meant to hijack a man's mind, using evolutionary psychology.

    revisionism in the work of a major prestige American animation studio is an interesting sign of political change and institution capture Have you followed the sort of things they are making now?

    I haven't seen any of the recent stuff, but I heard rumors. Two lesbos in this:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightyear_(film)
    A film about menstruation:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Red
    Race-mixing: (which to me seems satirical)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elemental_(2023_film)


    The Japanese do a lot of unrealistic representations as well, such as a woman with a prepubescent girl’s face and huge breast.
     
    Asian faces are more neotonous. This probably influences the art into a further extreme.

    I sometimes feel disgusted by how in certain instances the faces of men are very feminized . Probably a similar phenomenon.

    Some of it is very creepy. But it is a very wide industry, with varying styles and themes.

    Oddly enough, I actually think the creepiest mainstream stuff is directed towards girls and women and often drawn by women. The eyes are way too big, so that it is hard to look at, but they wouldn't make it that way unless it took advantage of evolutionary sex psychology, IMO.


    Btw, they still have in American games, too, they haven’t removed these yet.
     
    am definitely not a gamer, but the art in western games has changed quite dramatically. The faces are uglier. And, yes, they have reduced breasts to a certain extent. See Lara Croft. Though I am sure they will never remove them altogether. The default skins are darker and many protagonists black, and ahistorically so.

    Btw, I really liked the video of those white birds that you posted
     
    ptarmigans. There are different species. They belong to the same family as chickens, but are more closely related to grouse (which are also interesting birds.)

    https://youtu.be/u5wDEk1aF3U?si=fKBynkAfy4mK5WZS
    https://youtu.be/c1NmZU1vBz8?si=-Z6ZxBzcG7ahDWue

    They exist in Ireland too, but do not become white there. Over here, I have only ever seen grouse. I find their behavior on YouTube to be very different from what I have experienced.

    It is funny to see grouse. You would think that a small bird like that wouldn't live in the same environments as turkeys, which are much bigger birds.

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  556. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Tell us some more about your ex- who was in the Death Metal Band.

    Ha ha just kidding. The golden rule is called that for excellent reasons. Buss is writing about populations. There we might want to use more of a silver bullet rule. Different rules for the job and for the home. : )

    As for Huberman, that is an issue we will never resolve. Like I was saying, if you achieve all of your goals you did not aim high enough. He was found out only because his trusted partner was snooping on his phone. Howley didn't ask her about suspicious minds and justified snooping or if she did that wasn't in the article. Spying is a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia in the DSM. Healthy people do not spy on their loved ones.

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    Tell us some more about your ex- who was in the Death Metal Band.

    He was in a symphonic black metal band – that’s very different. He was a lyricist and a poet. He was not that bad actually (and very young). He never cheated either (and he was rather chaste and extremely picky in some ways). We were competing a little about “who is smarter / cooler”, when you start doing that it turns into the “who has the upper hand” and that’s not good, that was the main issue there. 🙂 I shouldn’t have done that, because many guys don’t like that, it causes unnecessary tension. 🙂 His last girlfriend dumped him, btw, so now he lives on the country side, alone with his huskies, hahahaha.

    My point still stands – how is this good for the culture, for progeny? Women’s instincts need to be reigned in, too.

    Also, most women won’t tolerate being treated like crap, they’ll bail or become neurotic, etc. Also, enjoying some occassional maledom doesn’t mean one wants to be trampled in their real life.

    As for Huberman, that is an issue we will never resolve. Like I was saying, if you achieve all of your goals you did not aim high enough.

    Frankly, I don’t get what is so special about him. Guys have done this through out history, even women have done this. There were aristocrats that had many lovers, etc., Princess Bathory and such. Those are even crazier. Huberman is just sneaky. He’s a Jew, come on. 🙂

    The issue with him was not that he had multiple partners simultaneously, but that, as a wellness coach, he was pretending to know better what is good for others. And that optimizers are selfish. If everyone becomes an optimizer, then society will lose all of the cohesion. Not sure guys like Huberman should be “opinion makers” for the masses. LOL Then again, who cares if he just sticks with the dopamine talk.

    Healthy people do not spy on their loved ones.

    (Morally) healthy people do not date 4 people at the same time (without telling them).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW


    (Morally) healthy people do not date 4 people at the same time (without telling them).

     

    The man is a rock star. The women are groupies.

    What do morally healthy National Socialist Germans do? What do morally healthy slave owners do? These are problems for philosophy class, not real life.
    , @LatW
    @LatW



    And, btw, I wanted my ex because he was hot and mysterious (and had similar interests), not because he was "an asshole" (which he mostly wasn't). Women don't like men just because they're assholes, there are plenty of those that women find repulsive, I mean, just look at the likes of Andrew Anglin and such.

  557. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Tell us some more about your ex- who was in the Death Metal Band.
     
    He was in a symphonic black metal band - that's very different. He was a lyricist and a poet. He was not that bad actually (and very young). He never cheated either (and he was rather chaste and extremely picky in some ways). We were competing a little about "who is smarter / cooler", when you start doing that it turns into the "who has the upper hand" and that's not good, that was the main issue there. :) I shouldn't have done that, because many guys don't like that, it causes unnecessary tension. :) His last girlfriend dumped him, btw, so now he lives on the country side, alone with his huskies, hahahaha.

    My point still stands - how is this good for the culture, for progeny? Women's instincts need to be reigned in, too.

    Also, most women won't tolerate being treated like crap, they'll bail or become neurotic, etc. Also, enjoying some occassional maledom doesn't mean one wants to be trampled in their real life.


    As for Huberman, that is an issue we will never resolve. Like I was saying, if you achieve all of your goals you did not aim high enough.
     
    Frankly, I don't get what is so special about him. Guys have done this through out history, even women have done this. There were aristocrats that had many lovers, etc., Princess Bathory and such. Those are even crazier. Huberman is just sneaky. He's a Jew, come on. :)

    The issue with him was not that he had multiple partners simultaneously, but that, as a wellness coach, he was pretending to know better what is good for others. And that optimizers are selfish. If everyone becomes an optimizer, then society will lose all of the cohesion. Not sure guys like Huberman should be "opinion makers" for the masses. LOL Then again, who cares if he just sticks with the dopamine talk.


    Healthy people do not spy on their loved ones.
     
    (Morally) healthy people do not date 4 people at the same time (without telling them).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    (Morally) healthy people do not date 4 people at the same time (without telling them).

    The man is a rock star. The women are groupies.

    What do morally healthy National Socialist Germans do? What do morally healthy slave owners do? These are problems for philosophy class, not real life.

  558. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Tell us some more about your ex- who was in the Death Metal Band.
     
    He was in a symphonic black metal band - that's very different. He was a lyricist and a poet. He was not that bad actually (and very young). He never cheated either (and he was rather chaste and extremely picky in some ways). We were competing a little about "who is smarter / cooler", when you start doing that it turns into the "who has the upper hand" and that's not good, that was the main issue there. :) I shouldn't have done that, because many guys don't like that, it causes unnecessary tension. :) His last girlfriend dumped him, btw, so now he lives on the country side, alone with his huskies, hahahaha.

    My point still stands - how is this good for the culture, for progeny? Women's instincts need to be reigned in, too.

    Also, most women won't tolerate being treated like crap, they'll bail or become neurotic, etc. Also, enjoying some occassional maledom doesn't mean one wants to be trampled in their real life.


    As for Huberman, that is an issue we will never resolve. Like I was saying, if you achieve all of your goals you did not aim high enough.
     
    Frankly, I don't get what is so special about him. Guys have done this through out history, even women have done this. There were aristocrats that had many lovers, etc., Princess Bathory and such. Those are even crazier. Huberman is just sneaky. He's a Jew, come on. :)

    The issue with him was not that he had multiple partners simultaneously, but that, as a wellness coach, he was pretending to know better what is good for others. And that optimizers are selfish. If everyone becomes an optimizer, then society will lose all of the cohesion. Not sure guys like Huberman should be "opinion makers" for the masses. LOL Then again, who cares if he just sticks with the dopamine talk.


    Healthy people do not spy on their loved ones.
     
    (Morally) healthy people do not date 4 people at the same time (without telling them).

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    And, btw, I wanted my ex because he was hot and mysterious (and had similar interests), not because he was “an asshole” (which he mostly wasn’t). Women don’t like men just because they’re assholes, there are plenty of those that women find repulsive, I mean, just look at the likes of Andrew Anglin and such.

  559. The man is a rock star. The women are groupies.

    Actually, no, because groupies know they’re not going to be the only ones, so that’s honest. Groupies are mostly high on something and not super health aware quality women like the ones that Huberman was involved with and they are not potential wives. If he was such a rock star who doesn’t care, he would’ve done it in the open. Btw, he’s not young. So that adds another objectionable aspect there. Anyway, it’s not the worst thing one can do (the embryo part was probably the worst) so it’s not even such a big deal. Other people have done worse things and it’s not like he’s a politician or a judge, but a “popular culture” person and a podcast host, so you’re right in that sense.

    What do morally healthy National Socialist Germans do?

    National Socialists would not behave that way, it’s the opposite of the ideology, the ideology explicitly combats this type of hedonism. Meine Ehre heißt Treue. Those National Socialists that do not step unto other people’s lands as occupiers, are typically highly moral and healthy.

    In a free society, there is a choice to behave a certain way. And in a free society people who make themselves public (and derive benefits from their public persona) are often judged for their choices. If you’re a public persona, expect some level of transparency into your private life. Everyone gets judged.

  560. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes but in practice the guys that score the most generally treat women like trash. The most successful player I ever knew when queried about this oddity said to me, "women are masochistic". I don't think it's that simple. This guy was bright but not any kind of a genius.

    This info is from personal anecdotes. I have no idea how it squares with dedicated research. Did you see the David Buss interview on Huberman?

    This guy:

    https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Desire-Strategies-Human-Mating/dp/046500802X

    I need to go back and watch that again now that it's come out Andrew Huberman is the Tiger Woods of the academic system.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    There is a feminist message that treating women well is inter-personally advantageous for dudes but in practice the guys that score the most generally treat women like trash.

    I think you are lumping together apples and oranges. Most people of both sexes are not very intellectual (dumb is an impolite, but adequate description). If you want success with women with low intelligence, it’s advantageous to treat them like trash. If you are only interested in intelligent women and want to be successful with them, you have to treat them as equals.

    That’s my personal experience. I am only interested in 7-10% of the smartest women (I don’t see a difference between having sex with a dumb woman and a she-goat: the anatomy is pretty much the same. Smart women I am interested in have to be treated like equals (that comes naturally to me). But a relationship between two intelligent beings is more challenging and complicated than mere sex. Personally, I prefer things that are complex and intellectually challenging: women, music, literature, etc. But that’s a matter of taste.

  561. A123 says: • Website

    Another epic fail from America’s SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslims: (1)

    Left-wing “squad” member Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) was tricked by a social media parody account claiming to be from the “Chief Rabbi of Gaza.”

    An X page by the name of “Rabbi Linda Goldstein,” which features satirical posts calling for “trans Palestinian” representation in the NFL and demanding that Hamas be “undesignated” as a terror organization, duped whoever was running Bowman’s account into thinking they wanted to hold a fundraiser for him.

    Is there anything more absurd than IslamoGloboHomo?

     

     

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/04/27/rep-jamaal-bowman-duped-fake-chief-rabbi-gaza-parody-account/

  562. @LatW
    @songbird


    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women
     
    It may contribute to women's happiness in some ways, but it may take away in other ways. Although happiness is an intangible term, that's something that doesn't necessarily depend on the political system. Wellbeing might be a better word.

    but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.
     
    Well, you're making it sound as if feminism is responsible for the mass invasion. These things are connected, but feminism is not the cause of the invasion. Rather, it could be that those things that caused the rise of feminism, could in fact be the reason for that. What is interesting is if there could be a society where women are relatively free where the invasion is not allowed - such a society existed in Finland until very recently. Of course, in the Baltics as well in the 1930s. Maybe Germany, too. So this was all possible. This goes to show that feminism may not be the cause but just the symptom of something bigger. Or there is something else at play, such as economic considerations (such as globalized trade, etc).

    If it were, Bezos’s fortune wouldn’t have been split.
     
    I don't think there ever was a society where the wife (and children) of a high status man were not protected. Also, you forget that countless women (of lower status) contributed to Bezos' wealth. Also, didn't the wife marry him when he was not yet rich? Afaik, this used to be the case for most American wives, at least back when people married early. When you marry early enough, the wife actually contributes to the man getting wealthy so it is partly earned by the wife and should belong to her. This is more of the traditional way - not the feminist one, the feminist one, in this case, might be a worse deal for conscientious women who do the right thing long term and invest in family.

    What I meant with my original question was that there are many high status men out there (especially in tech and such) who prioritize individualism, liberalism (and even libertinism) as an ideology. Even push that ideology sometimes. And this benefits a lot of men, too (in the short term).

    No offense, but do you really remember it that well?
     
    I remember quite a bit, and I've also spoken a lot with my father, I remember asking him about the life in the 70s and some of his life in the 80s with his friends. He told me a little about his mandatory military service in the Soviet army - alas, I didn't ask him enough about that, because I wasn't interested enough. I remember most of the things that are sex related and attire / appearance related, habits, sports, customs, etc. Ofc, I was not sexually active myself, nor directly exposed to it, but I have asked older people about it and read in the magazines of those times. Sexual relations were quite different back then (although of course the instincts were there, they were just controlled more).

    Well, what was your original reason for posting this Pixar thing? To show that it is bad that the unrealistic boobs are gone? The Japanese do a lot of unrealistic representations as well, such as a woman with a prepubescent girl's face and huge breast. Nothing against the breasts, of course, it's just not realistic. Btw, they still have in American games, too, they haven't removed these yet.

    I think the most important thing to see here for guys such as yourself is that it looks like these wokes have concluded that the ether doesn't belong only to you, but to everyone. So they will not just visually please the men from now on. Tbh, I haven't taken the time to figure out their agenda (I don't find the left wing agenda all too interesting), and, yes, I admit that some of it is going a bit far.

    Btw, I really liked the video of those white birds that you posted - they look so airy and delicate, like marshmallows. Didn't know such existed, looked like some snow partridge.

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    Well, you’re making it sound as if feminism is responsible for the mass invasion.

    not entirely, but I think it is probably a necessary component.

    Well, what was your original reason for posting this Pixar thing?

    am always interested in signals. Breasts are a great signal of sexual mores because the typical man is very interested in them.

    I don’t even think big boobs in things is necessarily good. To a certain extent, they are meant to hijack a man’s mind, using evolutionary psychology.

    revisionism in the work of a major prestige American animation studio is an interesting sign of political change and institution capture Have you followed the sort of things they are making now?

    I haven’t seen any of the recent stuff, but I heard rumors. Two lesbos in this:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightyear_(film)
    A film about menstruation:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Red
    Race-mixing: (which to me seems satirical)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elemental_(2023_film)

    The Japanese do a lot of unrealistic representations as well, such as a woman with a prepubescent girl’s face and huge breast.

    Asian faces are more neotonous. This probably influences the art into a further extreme.

    I sometimes feel disgusted by how in certain instances the faces of men are very feminized . Probably a similar phenomenon.

    Some of it is very creepy. But it is a very wide industry, with varying styles and themes.

    Oddly enough, I actually think the creepiest mainstream stuff is directed towards girls and women and often drawn by women. The eyes are way too big, so that it is hard to look at, but they wouldn’t make it that way unless it took advantage of evolutionary sex psychology, IMO.

    Btw, they still have in American games, too, they haven’t removed these yet.

    am definitely not a gamer, but the art in western games has changed quite dramatically. The faces are uglier. And, yes, they have reduced breasts to a certain extent. See Lara Croft. Though I am sure they will never remove them altogether. The default skins are darker and many protagonists black, and ahistorically so.

    Btw, I really liked the video of those white birds that you posted

    ptarmigans. There are different species. They belong to the same family as chickens, but are more closely related to grouse (which are also interesting birds.)

    https://youtu.be/c1NmZU1vBz8?si=-Z6ZxBzcG7ahDWue

    They exist in Ireland too, but do not become white there. Over here, I have only ever seen grouse. I find their behavior on YouTube to be very different from what I have experienced.

    It is funny to see grouse. You would think that a small bird like that wouldn’t live in the same environments as turkeys, which are much bigger birds.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    not entirely, but I think it is probably a necessary component.
     
    It could depend on the type of feminism and what it comes combined with. Feminism is a very broad and difficult term, there are many feminisms. It might be connected in the sense that hyper individualism is promoted and open markets. But it probably goes even further, the tranny feminism is about erasing all identity (or creating new or fluid identities). Although I wouldn't equate tranny-ism with feminism - some feminists are the biggest enemies of male trannies. Rightfully so!

    I don’t even think big boobs in things is necessarily good. To a certain extent, they are meant to hijack a man’s mind, using evolutionary psychology.
     
    Well, in that case, the question is about what is the purpose of the animation - is it to sell something? To sell the animation itself (draw attention)? Then the question is - are you original enough as an artist if you need to put artificial breasts in it? And whether this is done at normal women's expense? Did they think about young girls? Did they ever think that this might cause a backlash from some feminists or even normal women and thus increase feminism? Did they make this cartoon for men or for women? But nobody cared to pose those questions, of course.

    The issue with this animation is that the breasts are overdone and she seems to be tempting the other character (it just promotes licentiousness - which in and of itself might be possible to deal with but when made public, will have consequences, since everything will start sliding downwards from there). Natural, beautiful breasts on their own are not a problem at all (and are quite innocent).

    This is not to judge (I don't mind this kind of stuff actually), but just to be open about it. Because these things add up eventually. You know men used to be able to just pay for it and get it in private, without exposing the whole society to it.

    And maybe some women didn't like these kind of portrayals, so that's why now, they are changing these representations with such added zeal.

    revisionism in the work of a major prestige American animation studio is an interesting sign of political change and institution capture
     
    True, it's disturbing (partly it's a question of art and politics, and partly because American stuff gets spread across the world). But a studio probably cannot exist in isolation from politics, unless it's an independent studio. That said, we recently watched a cartoon called Murder Drones which was done by an independent Australian studio and it was so woke it almost made me cry - because some of the characters were these "loser" robots lined up to be killed by ass kicking female and tranny drones, who were working class dads and husbands, it broke my heart. Yet the animation itself is very well done. The author is some younger guy.

    Have you followed the sort of things they are making now?
     
    No, never seemed all that interesting, I prefer classical stuff, like those medieval knight movies we once discussed, don't find most left wing ideas (or art or people) that captivating. Especially if it's weird or ugly. Ugliness, too, is an aesthetic category that needs to be treated responsibly.

    One of the EE nationalists that I follow posted about this quite extensively. He was damn pissed. But he's also very looks focused.

    I'll check out those links, but what really ticks me off is the White woman / black man ads. Not because there could be such couples, but because of how aggressively it's shoved into the viewer's faces. The idiots think they can replace the handsome White male. Jerks.

    Asian faces are more neotonous. This probably influences the art into a further extreme.
     
    Yes, they have more childlike faces and they are mostly flat (don't typically have ample breasts). Not saying it to be mean, it's ok, just stating anthropological facts.

    The point is if you start out unrealistic, maybe the backlash too will be too extreme? Certainly seems so with this post-Covid overhaul of beauty standards - it is extreme. So if you have had 30 or so years of photo shopping etc, then maybe that's why the backlash is so severe? No idea, just trying to understand what happened there (it stunned me and left me puzzled).

    I sometimes feel disgusted by how in certain instances the faces of men are very feminized
     
    Me too. Actors will have delicate faces but on the screen they look normal. That's a different matter. Cute, younger guy faces are ok, but if they take it too far, then no. Even the young ones (over 18) should be manly. Like I looked back at that one Roman emperor who you thought was too effeminate looking and after looking at him for the second time, I agree. There is a big difference between a handsome masculine face and a face that's too effeminate - you see it right away.

    Some of it is very creepy.
     
    It depends on the character, sometimes you can pull it off, if you're portraying someone "asexual" or strange or eccentric. Or deliberately creepy. Like that Xerxes in the 300 Spartan movie. That went quite far and they almost overstepped but they were able to pull it off. Mostly because he was large and kind of demonic / Godlike and fought (with weapons), he wasn't portrayed as a weakling.

    Anyway, I don't want to sound too picky or prudish.. this is all art, so in some cases it's allowed to go overboard. It's hard to judge. You have to stay balanced. Art exists separately from morals and politics, it exists on its own, but the truth is.. the artist should be responsible and self-reflect.

    Yes, grouse was the bird I had in mind when I saw these white ones, it's unusual to see a white one because they can be colorful sometimes. When they dig in the snow, it probably helps them shelter from the winds a bit. Poor things.

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  563. By the 2030s, China is planning on having a costellation of 16 satellites around the Moon.

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    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    So now we know where the next billion will live!

  564. The real thing to watch in this space is the Yen.

    Two main things have saved the West so far in this conflict:

    1. The fact that Russia invaded one of the two Western states that the male population was still willing to fight for (the other being Poland)
    2. The fact that the US can literally print money to pay for military expenditures, thereby being able to fund the war without tax increases or budget cuts

    Well, if the Yen goes under, the dollar will be on it’s death clock. There is 0 chance that the US is able to continue funding this war if it can’t just continue to pay with Monopoly money

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Greasy William


    There is 0 chance that the US is able to continue funding this war if it can’t just continue to pay with Monopoly money
     
    ...and 32 trillion borrowing, mostly from China.

    Replies: @Beckow

  565. @AP
    @Beckow


    The Usti University? No kidding, it is a small industrial shi..hole, do you have any idea where it is and how small it is? That “Minarik” guy is about as respectable as someone from a random Podunk University in Upper Volta
     
    So you compare a mediocre Czech University to one in sub-Saharan Africa.

    How about Slovak Universities?

    You realize that you are just debasing yourself further here.

    What about University of Turn where he got his doctorate?

    I don’t know him but he obviously lies
     
    A random internet liar claims that a university professor "obviously lies" when the information he writes completely contradicts what the liar claims.

    for the cause of “oppressed church”.
     
    So you claim institutions in Czechia support lying for the cause of an oppressed church.

    he counts any malcontent and alternative wannabe as a priest.
     
    Only ones ordained by the Catholic Church. Not any.

    Remember what the article was about.

    These are the priests he talked about when he counted 25% as being in the Underground Churuch:

    First, there were the priests who had been ordained before the Communist coup, who opposed the regime and often spent the initial period in prisons and labor camps; they could not get state approval later and were forced to minister clandestinely. Second, there were priests who had been officially ordained under Communist rule but who lost state approval later. Third, many priests were ordained secretly, either by domestic secret bishops or by foreign bishops, typically German or Polish.

    You got caught making up things
     
    I made nothing up, I posted information from a university professor in a peer-reviewed journal.

    You, the serial liar, made claims that contradicted the published material.

    It's clear which information was true and which was false.

    Sorry for getting you caught making things up as usual.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    “What about University of *Turin* where he got his doctorate?”

    (Corrected typo.)

  566. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Only in two cases going to church could have harmed you: a) if a member of the communist party, which was officially atheist, was reported as going to church, s/he could be expelled; b) if you were a careerist and wanted to go up in the Soviet hierarchy, you had to be a member of the party, and therefore was expected not to go to church. If you were a normal person w/o careerist inclinations, going to church in the USSR did you no harm
     
    In other words, going to church barred you from having a management position in the USSR (being a “careerist.”)

    It’s of course much lighter persecution than being executed or imprisoned, but it is still persecution.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Who had it worse in the USSR: Churchgoers or Jews? I mean in the late, post-Stalin USSR?

  567. What would PG Wodehouse say if he had seen this guy hugging a swan?

  568. @AP
    @Sean

    Until Putin chose to annex Crimea, Russia was converging with the Visegrad countries. Had this process continued it would have (as have the Visegrad countries) eventually attained a Mediterranean European level of wealth. Instead, Russia is at the level of the Balkans, or Mexico.

    Of course, under Putin Russia stopped and reversed the catastrophic 90s decline. So he has undone his own legacy by choosing to invade Ukraine.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Mr. XYZ

    Question for you, AP: If the Putinist state structure in Russia will survive for decades or more, is there any chance of it seeking to massively boost Russia’s population in the artificial wombs + IVG (in-vitro gametogenesis) era by massively producing super-smart babies from people’s skin cells plus doing mass embryo selection? Such babies can be raised en masse in state-run orphanages if necessary; in other words, a more high-tech version of what previously happened in Ceaucescu’s Romania.

    This would be a truly successful example of a Based Rightist country taking it to the utter extreme. Imagine Russia using such technologies to massively boost its population from 150 (or 100+ million) to 1+ billion extremely rapidly.

  569. LatW says:
    @songbird
    @LatW


    Well, you’re making it sound as if feminism is responsible for the mass invasion.
     
    not entirely, but I think it is probably a necessary component.

    Well, what was your original reason for posting this Pixar thing?
     
    am always interested in signals. Breasts are a great signal of sexual mores because the typical man is very interested in them.

    I don't even think big boobs in things is necessarily good. To a certain extent, they are meant to hijack a man's mind, using evolutionary psychology.

    revisionism in the work of a major prestige American animation studio is an interesting sign of political change and institution capture Have you followed the sort of things they are making now?

    I haven't seen any of the recent stuff, but I heard rumors. Two lesbos in this:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightyear_(film)
    A film about menstruation:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Red
    Race-mixing: (which to me seems satirical)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elemental_(2023_film)


    The Japanese do a lot of unrealistic representations as well, such as a woman with a prepubescent girl’s face and huge breast.
     
    Asian faces are more neotonous. This probably influences the art into a further extreme.

    I sometimes feel disgusted by how in certain instances the faces of men are very feminized . Probably a similar phenomenon.

    Some of it is very creepy. But it is a very wide industry, with varying styles and themes.

    Oddly enough, I actually think the creepiest mainstream stuff is directed towards girls and women and often drawn by women. The eyes are way too big, so that it is hard to look at, but they wouldn't make it that way unless it took advantage of evolutionary sex psychology, IMO.


    Btw, they still have in American games, too, they haven’t removed these yet.
     
    am definitely not a gamer, but the art in western games has changed quite dramatically. The faces are uglier. And, yes, they have reduced breasts to a certain extent. See Lara Croft. Though I am sure they will never remove them altogether. The default skins are darker and many protagonists black, and ahistorically so.

    Btw, I really liked the video of those white birds that you posted
     
    ptarmigans. There are different species. They belong to the same family as chickens, but are more closely related to grouse (which are also interesting birds.)

    https://youtu.be/u5wDEk1aF3U?si=fKBynkAfy4mK5WZS
    https://youtu.be/c1NmZU1vBz8?si=-Z6ZxBzcG7ahDWue

    They exist in Ireland too, but do not become white there. Over here, I have only ever seen grouse. I find their behavior on YouTube to be very different from what I have experienced.

    It is funny to see grouse. You would think that a small bird like that wouldn't live in the same environments as turkeys, which are much bigger birds.

    Replies: @LatW

    not entirely, but I think it is probably a necessary component.

    It could depend on the type of feminism and what it comes combined with. Feminism is a very broad and difficult term, there are many feminisms. It might be connected in the sense that hyper individualism is promoted and open markets. But it probably goes even further, the tranny feminism is about erasing all identity (or creating new or fluid identities). Although I wouldn’t equate tranny-ism with feminism – some feminists are the biggest enemies of male trannies. Rightfully so!

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    I don’t even think big boobs in things is necessarily good. To a certain extent, they are meant to hijack a man’s mind, using evolutionary psychology.

    Well, in that case, the question is about what is the purpose of the animation – is it to sell something? To sell the animation itself (draw attention)? Then the question is – are you original enough as an artist if you need to put artificial breasts in it? And whether this is done at normal women’s expense? Did they think about young girls? Did they ever think that this might cause a backlash from some feminists or even normal women and thus increase feminism? Did they make this cartoon for men or for women? But nobody cared to pose those questions, of course.

    The issue with this animation is that the breasts are overdone and she seems to be tempting the other character (it just promotes licentiousness – which in and of itself might be possible to deal with but when made public, will have consequences, since everything will start sliding downwards from there). Natural, beautiful breasts on their own are not a problem at all (and are quite innocent).

    This is not to judge (I don’t mind this kind of stuff actually), but just to be open about it. Because these things add up eventually. You know men used to be able to just pay for it and get it in private, without exposing the whole society to it.

    And maybe some women didn’t like these kind of portrayals, so that’s why now, they are changing these representations with such added zeal.

    revisionism in the work of a major prestige American animation studio is an interesting sign of political change and institution capture

    True, it’s disturbing (partly it’s a question of art and politics, and partly because American stuff gets spread across the world). But a studio probably cannot exist in isolation from politics, unless it’s an independent studio. That said, we recently watched a cartoon called Murder Drones which was done by an independent Australian studio and it was so woke it almost made me cry – because some of the characters were these “loser” robots lined up to be killed by ass kicking female and tranny drones, who were working class dads and husbands, it broke my heart. Yet the animation itself is very well done. The author is some younger guy.

    Have you followed the sort of things they are making now?

    No, never seemed all that interesting, I prefer classical stuff, like those medieval knight movies we once discussed, don’t find most left wing ideas (or art or people) that captivating. Especially if it’s weird or ugly. Ugliness, too, is an aesthetic category that needs to be treated responsibly.

    One of the EE nationalists that I follow posted about this quite extensively. He was damn pissed. But he’s also very looks focused.

    I’ll check out those links, but what really ticks me off is the White woman / black man ads. Not because there could be such couples, but because of how aggressively it’s shoved into the viewer’s faces. The idiots think they can replace the handsome White male. Jerks.

    Asian faces are more neotonous. This probably influences the art into a further extreme.

    Yes, they have more childlike faces and they are mostly flat (don’t typically have ample breasts). Not saying it to be mean, it’s ok, just stating anthropological facts.

    The point is if you start out unrealistic, maybe the backlash too will be too extreme? Certainly seems so with this post-Covid overhaul of beauty standards – it is extreme. So if you have had 30 or so years of photo shopping etc, then maybe that’s why the backlash is so severe? No idea, just trying to understand what happened there (it stunned me and left me puzzled).

    I sometimes feel disgusted by how in certain instances the faces of men are very feminized

    Me too. Actors will have delicate faces but on the screen they look normal. That’s a different matter. Cute, younger guy faces are ok, but if they take it too far, then no. Even the young ones (over 18) should be manly. Like I looked back at that one Roman emperor who you thought was too effeminate looking and after looking at him for the second time, I agree. There is a big difference between a handsome masculine face and a face that’s too effeminate – you see it right away.

    Some of it is very creepy.

    It depends on the character, sometimes you can pull it off, if you’re portraying someone “asexual” or strange or eccentric. Or deliberately creepy. Like that Xerxes in the 300 Spartan movie. That went quite far and they almost overstepped but they were able to pull it off. Mostly because he was large and kind of demonic / Godlike and fought (with weapons), he wasn’t portrayed as a weakling.

    Anyway, I don’t want to sound too picky or prudish.. this is all art, so in some cases it’s allowed to go overboard. It’s hard to judge. You have to stay balanced. Art exists separately from morals and politics, it exists on its own, but the truth is.. the artist should be responsible and self-reflect.

    Yes, grouse was the bird I had in mind when I saw these white ones, it’s unusual to see a white one because they can be colorful sometimes. When they dig in the snow, it probably helps them shelter from the winds a bit. Poor things.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Well, in that case, the question is about what is the purpose of the animation – is it to sell something?
     
    mainly to generate buzz and attract investors and clients. At that time Jobs, who owned the company, conceived of it as a hardware/software company. Of course, the animators had their own ideas and wanted to tell stories, but they didn't really have the skills for this, and could only come up with primitive jokes, and needed the help of experienced outsiders, when they finally started making movies, years later.

    Did they think about young girls? Did they ever think that this might cause a backlash from some feminists or even normal women and thus increase feminism?
     
    the audience was too insular for that. It wasn't meant for children really but more like arthouse filmfests.

    some of the characters were these “loser” robots lined up to be killed by ass kicking female and tranny drones, who were working class dads and husbands, it broke my heart. Yet the animation itself is very well done.
     
    The enthusiasm with which some people have embraced tranny signaling is very bizarre.
  570. @songbird
    By the 2030s, China is planning on having a costellation of 16 satellites around the Moon.
    https://youtu.be/hrnEIvPoTT4?si=3cW9RVQSUwetcB_5

    Replies: @QCIC

    So now we know where the next billion will live!

    • Agree: songbird
  571. @LatW
    @songbird


    not entirely, but I think it is probably a necessary component.
     
    It could depend on the type of feminism and what it comes combined with. Feminism is a very broad and difficult term, there are many feminisms. It might be connected in the sense that hyper individualism is promoted and open markets. But it probably goes even further, the tranny feminism is about erasing all identity (or creating new or fluid identities). Although I wouldn't equate tranny-ism with feminism - some feminists are the biggest enemies of male trannies. Rightfully so!

    I don’t even think big boobs in things is necessarily good. To a certain extent, they are meant to hijack a man’s mind, using evolutionary psychology.
     
    Well, in that case, the question is about what is the purpose of the animation - is it to sell something? To sell the animation itself (draw attention)? Then the question is - are you original enough as an artist if you need to put artificial breasts in it? And whether this is done at normal women's expense? Did they think about young girls? Did they ever think that this might cause a backlash from some feminists or even normal women and thus increase feminism? Did they make this cartoon for men or for women? But nobody cared to pose those questions, of course.

    The issue with this animation is that the breasts are overdone and she seems to be tempting the other character (it just promotes licentiousness - which in and of itself might be possible to deal with but when made public, will have consequences, since everything will start sliding downwards from there). Natural, beautiful breasts on their own are not a problem at all (and are quite innocent).

    This is not to judge (I don't mind this kind of stuff actually), but just to be open about it. Because these things add up eventually. You know men used to be able to just pay for it and get it in private, without exposing the whole society to it.

    And maybe some women didn't like these kind of portrayals, so that's why now, they are changing these representations with such added zeal.

    revisionism in the work of a major prestige American animation studio is an interesting sign of political change and institution capture
     
    True, it's disturbing (partly it's a question of art and politics, and partly because American stuff gets spread across the world). But a studio probably cannot exist in isolation from politics, unless it's an independent studio. That said, we recently watched a cartoon called Murder Drones which was done by an independent Australian studio and it was so woke it almost made me cry - because some of the characters were these "loser" robots lined up to be killed by ass kicking female and tranny drones, who were working class dads and husbands, it broke my heart. Yet the animation itself is very well done. The author is some younger guy.

    Have you followed the sort of things they are making now?
     
    No, never seemed all that interesting, I prefer classical stuff, like those medieval knight movies we once discussed, don't find most left wing ideas (or art or people) that captivating. Especially if it's weird or ugly. Ugliness, too, is an aesthetic category that needs to be treated responsibly.

    One of the EE nationalists that I follow posted about this quite extensively. He was damn pissed. But he's also very looks focused.

    I'll check out those links, but what really ticks me off is the White woman / black man ads. Not because there could be such couples, but because of how aggressively it's shoved into the viewer's faces. The idiots think they can replace the handsome White male. Jerks.

    Asian faces are more neotonous. This probably influences the art into a further extreme.
     
    Yes, they have more childlike faces and they are mostly flat (don't typically have ample breasts). Not saying it to be mean, it's ok, just stating anthropological facts.

    The point is if you start out unrealistic, maybe the backlash too will be too extreme? Certainly seems so with this post-Covid overhaul of beauty standards - it is extreme. So if you have had 30 or so years of photo shopping etc, then maybe that's why the backlash is so severe? No idea, just trying to understand what happened there (it stunned me and left me puzzled).

    I sometimes feel disgusted by how in certain instances the faces of men are very feminized
     
    Me too. Actors will have delicate faces but on the screen they look normal. That's a different matter. Cute, younger guy faces are ok, but if they take it too far, then no. Even the young ones (over 18) should be manly. Like I looked back at that one Roman emperor who you thought was too effeminate looking and after looking at him for the second time, I agree. There is a big difference between a handsome masculine face and a face that's too effeminate - you see it right away.

    Some of it is very creepy.
     
    It depends on the character, sometimes you can pull it off, if you're portraying someone "asexual" or strange or eccentric. Or deliberately creepy. Like that Xerxes in the 300 Spartan movie. That went quite far and they almost overstepped but they were able to pull it off. Mostly because he was large and kind of demonic / Godlike and fought (with weapons), he wasn't portrayed as a weakling.

    Anyway, I don't want to sound too picky or prudish.. this is all art, so in some cases it's allowed to go overboard. It's hard to judge. You have to stay balanced. Art exists separately from morals and politics, it exists on its own, but the truth is.. the artist should be responsible and self-reflect.

    Yes, grouse was the bird I had in mind when I saw these white ones, it's unusual to see a white one because they can be colorful sometimes. When they dig in the snow, it probably helps them shelter from the winds a bit. Poor things.

    Replies: @songbird

    Well, in that case, the question is about what is the purpose of the animation – is it to sell something?

    mainly to generate buzz and attract investors and clients. At that time Jobs, who owned the company, conceived of it as a hardware/software company. Of course, the animators had their own ideas and wanted to tell stories, but they didn’t really have the skills for this, and could only come up with primitive jokes, and needed the help of experienced outsiders, when they finally started making movies, years later.

    Did they think about young girls? Did they ever think that this might cause a backlash from some feminists or even normal women and thus increase feminism?

    the audience was too insular for that. It wasn’t meant for children really but more like arthouse filmfests.

    some of the characters were these “loser” robots lined up to be killed by ass kicking female and tranny drones, who were working class dads and husbands, it broke my heart. Yet the animation itself is very well done.

    The enthusiasm with which some people have embraced tranny signaling is very bizarre.

  572. @sudden death
    @AP

    It also should be pressed that UA in fact initially did the peaceful option by giving away Crimea without any armed resistance in 2014 but instead got rewarded by getting another RF onslaught, so it might have been the height of treacherous stupidity to believe any RF promises, no matter written or not, and repeat it again in 2022, while leaving RF army intact.

    Replies: @Derer

    Do you mean the Minsk promises?

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Derer

    No, it was about Istanbul accords, which still haven't been published in full by anyone AFAIK, but Minsk also was done after UA was immediately rewarded by RF with subsequent assault on Donbas after chosing not to resist militarily in Crimea.

  573. @Greasy William
    The real thing to watch in this space is the Yen.

    Two main things have saved the West so far in this conflict:

    1. The fact that Russia invaded one of the two Western states that the male population was still willing to fight for (the other being Poland)
    2. The fact that the US can literally print money to pay for military expenditures, thereby being able to fund the war without tax increases or budget cuts

    Well, if the Yen goes under, the dollar will be on it's death clock. There is 0 chance that the US is able to continue funding this war if it can't just continue to pay with Monopoly money

    Replies: @Derer

    There is 0 chance that the US is able to continue funding this war if it can’t just continue to pay with Monopoly money

    …and 32 trillion borrowing, mostly from China.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Derer

    It is heading to $34 trillion, foreign countries hold 25%, China less than 4%. That is not good, it would actually be better if the debt was held abroad because it would be possible to devalue or 'sanction' it.

    75% of US debt is held by US institutions. Debt is a claim on the same asset by two parties: both can consume based on it. It pumps up the economy and in beneficial in smaller ratios. Today the US GNP would be 30 to 50% smaller without Fed debt.

    US debt will soon be twice the GNP, the numbers will not work - simply math. Any spending cuts would have to be so drastic -15 to 20% including pensions - that the US economy would halt.

    The enemies (BRICS) are circling around. They know the dollar is a house of cards and time is on their side. The dumbest thing for Washington was to go for more wars, provoking the un-winnable Ukie war, maximalist Izrael, messing with China - Taiwan is an internationally recognized part of China - if Crimea is "wrong", why is fighting with China to separate Taiwan ok?

    Maybe a huge inflation would help - devalue everything by 50-100% to get the numbers stabilized. Wars are great for justifying inflation. How is the West going to explain lower living standards to its people? Maybe they will finally call off the 'democracy-election' show and just do it. They don'y have many good choices. Turning China-Russia into a united enemy was a fatal self-inflicted error.

    Replies: @Derer

  574. I have recently written a Substack article in favor of creating and commercializing child support insurance:

    https://randommusingsandhistory.substack.com/p/child-support-insurance-a-solution

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    From my own Substack:

    “Some pro-choicers have previously proposed a “financial abortion” or “paper abortion” option for men who don’t want to pay or risk paying child support in the event of an unplanned pregnancy and the woman deciding to keep and raise the child herself:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_abortion

    It’s obvious that there is an asymmetry here: For a (cisgender) woman who lives in a place where abortion is legal and who wants to guarantee that she will never be forced to pay child support for 18+ years in the event of an unplanned pregnancy, all she needs to do is to get an abortion (and to take a pregnancy test every month or two in order to make sure that she catches this pregnancy in time). In contrast, for a (cisgender) man to guarantee this outcome, he would either need to abstain from having penis-in-vagina sex with all fertile and potentially fertile cisgender women for the rest of his life (and even that might tragically not be enough: https://supreme.findlaw.com/legal-commentary/when-oral-sex-results-in-a-pregnancy-can-men-ever-escape-paternity-obligations.html ) or get surgically castrated. All other forms of contraception can fail, including condoms, vasectomies, and even bilateral epididymectomies (which AFAIK have never actually failed but can nevertheless fail in theory if a fistula forms between the testicle(s) and the vas deferens, thus restoring one’s fertility). Clearly, that sounds extreme. All other options for men would present at least a little bit of risk, risk that is likely to eventually become actualized for some men somewhere due to the law of truly large numbers:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_truly_large_numbers

    If a woman promises abortion and/or adoption in the event of an unplanned pregnancy, then most of the time, her promises are likely to be fulfilled. However, there is never actually any guarantee in regards to this because people, including women, are not robots and are thus capable of changing their minds in regards to this (as well as, more rarely, of lying about their intentions in regards to this in the first place). So, a man whose sterilization or (in the future) Vasalgel injection fails and whose female sexual partner (or partners) changes her mind (or lies) about abortion and/or adoption is likely to find himself is an extraordinarily shitty situation. Cumulatively speaking, over 18+ years, child support adds up to a lot of money. Specifically tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars! While situations of men in such positions might be very rare, I do suspect that they did occur at one point or another. And that’s certainly not very conductive for peace of mind, let alone for the chance that one oneself might eventually end up becoming one of these extraordinarily unlucky men. In turn, this brings me to my proposed solution in regards to this:

    Child support insurance. Specifically, insurance that will pay all of one’s child support for 18+ years in the event of a sterilization failure and/or LARC (long-acting reversible contraception) failure. Both men and women (such as those women who consider abortion to be immoral) would be able to purchase this insurance, though I suspect that men would benefit from it more than women would because women, unlike men, already mostly have the unilateral option of abortion to deal with unplanned pregnancies. I would guess that such insurance can work with either premiums (say, on a monthly basis) or with a much larger one-time payment. I would suspect that such insurance shouldn’t be too expensive if the risk of failure for products such as Vasalgel, let alone vasectomies and bilateral epididymectomies, will be extremely tiny. Of course, there might be a risk of insurance fraud (a lot of people do want kids and would be delighted to have someone else pay for them, after all), which is why I’m wondering if it might be prudent to require one to be willing to permanently give up one’s parental rights to any children whom one expects child support insurance to pay for on one’s behalf. In such a scenario, one would end up being not much more than a sperm donor for these children, simply one who conceived through sexual intercourse (like some informal sperm donors actually do, in fact, nowadays) instead of through artificial insemination or in-vitro fertilization. I would suspect that imposing such a condition on acquiring insurance payouts for this should reduce the risk of insurance fraud significantly. The remaining risk of insurance fraud can, of course, be factored into the cost of the insurance itself, like we apparently currently do with other forms of insurance.

    People, including pro-choicers, often say that child support is meant for the child and is not meant to be punitive towards non-custodial parents. Yet creating cheap, affordable, and accessible child support insurance would ensure that children get supported just as strongly while ensuring that child support would be much, much less punitive towards non-custodial parents whose LARC and/or sterilization failed. That strikes me as a win-win scenario that both pro-lifers and pro-choicers can get behind, no? Pro-lifers should especially be willing to support such insurance since it could make some women more likely to give birth, especially if these women previously contemplated abortions for financial reasons. That said, though, such insurance does not appear to exist on the insurance marketplace right now (I’ve asked over 100 Lloyd’s specialty insurance brokers about this; not a single one of them actually said Yes in regards to this) and thus if the private insurance marketplace is not going to solve this issue, maybe the government could and should by creating such insurance (specifically child support insurance) itself? Would or could that actually be feasible? It seems like it would be desirable for the government to do since it could reduce child poverty here in the US, at least slightly. Of course, it would also be highly desirable for US state governments to amend their insurance statutes to make it crystal-clear that one indeed has an unlimited insurable interest in one’s own child support obligations in order to ensure that no idiot judge will ever invalidate such an insurance contract on public policy grounds due to their belief that such insurance treats unwanted children like losses and burdens. (Of course, this would only be relevant if such insurance was created by an insurance company; any insurance created by the government would automatically be compatible with public policy unless discriminatory or something like that, one would think.)

    One more issue that I would like to mention is minors: AFAIK, minors are not legally allowed to buy insurance here in the US. If so, then maybe an exception could be made for them here. Specifically, I’m not talking about minors directly purchasing such insurance, but rather having the government (either their US state government or the US federal government) purchase such insurance for them on their behalf. Of course, I also very strongly think that victims of statutory rape should not be legally required to pay child support, so that is another aspect of the current (child support) laws which should certainly urgently be changed if one actually has any conscience.

    Pro-lifers would oppose a “financial abortion” because it could very possibly make abortion more likely, while some pro-choicers could oppose it because it could leave a lot of children much more destitute. However, my child support insurance proposal—which, by the way, is not an original one—does not have either of these two defects and thus should be astronomically more capable of securing significant amounts of pro-life as well as pro-choice support for it.Anyway, what do you think? Does this idea actually strike you as feasible, or simply too idealistic and unrealistic? Any thoughts on this idea of mine?”

  575. S1 says:
    @songbird
    @S1


    According to her it was all for show and she was given nothing of substance to do once in orbit. They simply wanted a female body
     
    Definitely, you can tell by how long the follow up - the second female cosmonaut was. I read astronaut Scott Kelly's book and he interacted a lot with Russians involved in their space program and said that was their opinion of her, an AA case.

    organizations are often treated pretty shabbily, ie as sex objects and as someone who should just be quiet and ‘make coffee
     
    am not sure this is still the case in 2024 Japan, but Japan was certainly like that in the '90s. That is, women, whatever their jobs were the ones expected to make coffee or tea.

    I honestly admire them for it. I feel like it is good to have some division of sexes, even if it is reduced to such a small, drudge task, it seems to carry a symbolic value or virtue. And probably such a workplace is immune to trannies or lesbians.

    Replies: @S1

    I feel like it is good to have some division of sexes, even if it is reduced to such a small, drudge task, it seems to carry a symbolic value or virtue.

    As you imply, while there are certainly many similarities between men and women, there are also some natural organic differences between the sexes as well, which should be respected. The whole should be taken into account.

    The problem with the ‘equality’ (which literally means ‘sameness’) fanatics is that those differences are quite real and attempting to wish them away or pretend they aren’t there won’t change things, ie the typical 30 percent plus muscle mass difference between men and women, and women have babies and men don’t, etc.

    Attempting to ignore this reality is getting women killed and men seriously hurt.

    [That’s not to say that in the past there weren’t (and aren’t) serious abuses of women taking place, and real problems in the relationship between the sexes that need working on. However, for the reasons outlined, I suppose I’m a bit more into the idea of fairness, a real fairness, rather than ‘equality’.]

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @S1


    I suppose I’m a bit more into the idea of fairness, a real fairness, rather than ‘equality’
     
    Equality means equal opportunity, not equal outcome (this in the lingo of woke BS is “equity”). Men and women are different in many things in addition to reproductive roles. Most men have more testosterone, which is a natural anabolic. That determines greater muscle mass in men. This also makes it unfair for males (with high natural testosterone) to compete in women’s sports: this is worse than doping.

    High testosterone/estrogen ratio likely also makes males more arrogant and aggressive, whereas the opposite ratio makes females more level-headed. This difference manifests itself in everything. E.g., I taught for 15+ years to our graduate students a course that is in many ways a test of intelligence. I consistently found that among the top three performers on the final test (in a class of 60-70, so this is statistically significant) there were two females and one male. From my POV this does not mean that females are smarter, it just means that males are more arrogant: it takes greater intelligence for females to decide to go to grad school. Male aggressiveness and arrogance are biologically advantageous, both are needed for the defense of the territory and progeny.

    In my experience both human males and females greatly vary in intelligence, from very dumb all the way to remarkably bright. I have no data on averages (e.g., among grad school students female average is higher, but that’s the result of self-selection), but the highest levels of male and female intelligence are about the same. That’s why I believe that women should have the same opportunities as men. Naturally, the outcomes are widely different among both sexes.

    Human females tend to be more patient: a biologically advantageous trait for mothers. That’s why watch-assembly in all countries is done almost exclusively by females.

    Males and females of all mammals, including humans, have numerous psychological differences selected by evolution for reproductive success of the species. Our survival, both as a biological species and as intelligent beings, depends on both sexes and requires the sum total of qualities of men and women.

    Repeat, by “equality” I mean exclusively equal opportunity.

    Replies: @AP

  576. @Mikel
    @Dmitry from the previous thread.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-246/#comment-6537773

    Is it more known if having more cancer reduces V02 max or having more V02 reduces cancer?

    Repeat procedure with many other diseases.

    Is it more known if having more water-borne disease reduces V02 max or having more V02 max reduces water-borne disease?

    Is it more known if having more malnutrition reduces V02 max or having high V02 reduces malnutrition?
     
    That's a little better than you have done before. Those are valid questions. But sadly, you keep talking as if all we had was a simple plot of two correlated variables with no more information. When you provided the Finnish twins study I read it in order to provide a reasoned critique. Why don't you return the favor and take the time to read the papers I have provided so that we can have a more worthwhile conversation?

    In the last meta-analysis that I gave you Laukkanen et al specifically talk about selecting 37 cohort studies where the authors had controlled for confounding factors like existence of illness and risk factors (page 8) and used sophisticated methods to avoid reverse-causation bias (pages 9, 14).

    https://research-information.bris.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/314942003/CRF_Mortality_Final.pdf

    So right there you have a group of PhDs giving a formal and rigorous answer to the very questions you keep repeating for several weeks as if we hadn't discussed them already.

    On top of that, there are all the rest of the lines of evidence I had provided earlier. Specifically, in the video I showed you Professor Calbet explains the results of the mating experiments with mice selected for a genetically high vo2max and the finding that patients with chronic illnesses live longer if they have a high vo2max.

    If you were able to think about it carefully, you might understand that what these dozens of vo2max studies show is not particularly striking. Let's imagine two individuals in good health who have just had their bloodwork done and all biomarkers show normal levels. But one of them has a low vo2max and is unable to run more than a couple of miles without stopping out of breath. The other one has a very high vo2max and completed the NYC marathon in 20th place. However, a couple of moths later they both go on to suffer a fatal health issue. They get diagnosed with pancreatic cancer or they suffer a car accident that leaves them in comma with a broken skull.

    Now, let's imagine that we ask the following question to a random group of people on the street: "who of these two persons do you think will live longer, all things being equal?". Of course, 99.9% of the respondents would choose the second guy. For some strange reason, you keep insisting that there is no reason to give that common sense answer.

    How do they try to manage this purely logical and formal question?

    They don’t notice it and their adjustment is to say excluding 10-year mortality the relation is still robust
     
    Again, they used the following techniques to address that question and many more that could introduce bias in the cohort studies and compromise the quality of the evidence:

    GRADE (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation)
    PRISMA and MOOSE guidelines
    Cochrane Risk of Bias in Non-randomised Studies (ROBINS-I)
    Begg’s funnel plots
    Egger’s regression symmetry test
    Stata module metaninf
    Duval and Tweedie’s nonparametric trim-and-fill method

    I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools but... are you? Reply honestly and explain why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.

    The results would be more arguing for V02 max as a stress test or diagnostic of underlying disease.
     
    This is just pure ignorance. As it happens, I have done both a VO2max test and a stress test in the past. They both measure very different things. My cousin's husband is a sports medicine doctor and just by coincidence, we were discussing the differences between both tests not long ago. VO2max tests cannot be used to diagnose any illness.

    You transcribed the CDC advice which recommends 2,5 hours of moderate exercise or 1,25 hours of vigorous exercise.
     
    You are omitting two crucial elements in the CDC/HHS recommendation: at least and for
    substantial health benefits
    . That is the minimum they say you should do if you expect substantial results.

    So, the CDC guideline is actually just “avoid extreme physical inactivity”
     
    Nonsense. There are some good reasons to avoid extreme forms of exercise if you are untrained but the CDC doesn't say "just avoid extreme physical inactivity” at all.


    Longevity field seems not a real field. It’s YouTuber marketing language.

    In the future, maybe there will be drugs that are validated to increase human lifespan, you could call the drug-developed “longevity field”.
     
    LOL. The longevity field is not about finding drugs that increase lifespan. It's composed by the scientists that study the biological mechanisms of again and development. I suspect that the accomplished scientists who have devoted their lives to studying these mechanisms (some of them Nobel laureates) would not be amused by a software engineer proclaiming that their field of study does not exist.

    It loos likely that some of the molecules and interventions that have proven to extend lifespan in animal models in randomized, placebo-controlled studies could also have an effect on humans but this is yet not known because no such decades-long studies are possible in humans under lab conditions. This is the reason why they're trying to develop the epigenetic clocks that you mentioned in the twins study but unfortunately, it is still impossible to know what a reversal in the age of these epigenetic clocks means. It may mean that some (but not all) of the aging mechanisms have been stopped or it may just mean that we're just changing a biological calendar to say that it's 2014 instead of 2024 but no age reversal has occurred at all. Besides, different tissues show different rates of aging with the same clocks so we have no single metric to assess overall aging.

    They are arguing V02 is a stress test to detect disease risk. This is saying they argue the association is what is called in earlier paper reverse causality.
     
    The cockatoo argument method again?

    I am actually very open to any criticism anyone can raise against these fitness hacks who have become so influential lately. Right now I am following with great interest the zone-2 training debate that is raging on the internet and have not yet decided who to trust more. In fact, this is one of the reasons I didn't need any of the information I have been digging in my debate with you to know that the vo2max studies were no-nonsense. As I said, it's a very competitive space and Attia just cannot afford to talk scientific rubbish without his competitors going for his jugular immediately. Even his frequent collaborator Patrick has raised her voice against him on the zone-2 question.

    Now that I know my vo2max (if the measurements of the clinic I chose can be trusted), I do have a vested interest in the mainstream view in the exercise and longevity fields being correct. But, in general, it's much more interesting to try to figure out where the truth lies on any matter. Lying to yourself is a poor life strategy and there is intrinsic beauty in truth, whether it provides a benefit to you or not.

    Unfortunately, somebody showing off that he knows something about the problem of reverse causality in observational studies and saying that, since successful youtubers make a lot of money, one cannot believe anything they say is not a useful criticism. There's no information there for me to reevaluate anything I thought previously.

    Thanks for giving make the opportunity to dig in the literature though. That's actually been helpful, as I now have much more solid evidence to be optimistic about my vo2max level :-)

    Replies: @Dmitry

    In the last meta-analysis that I gave you

    You said about parrots. I need to repeat like a parrot because I was uncertain if you understand the concept I am explaining. From posting the last paper, it seems it was correct to be uncertain.

    The paper concludes there is an “association” which is the correlation we have been discussing so they say cardio-respiratory fitness can be a diagnostic for mortality. To be a good diagnostic, the direction is health -> cardiovascular fitness.

    right there you have a group of PhDs giving a formal and rigorous answer to the very questions you keep repeating for several weeks

    Your credentialism is surprising because the problem is many of the authors of these papers seem to not have formal education in the inference parts of their papers. They are do inferences which they don’t have the education level to understand. Some of them don’t always understand the implications the tests they choose from the software menu.

    In this last paper unlike an earlier one you posted, they understand they cannot say much so and conclude modestly there is an association and this association can be diagnostic. Although some of their writing inside about exercise recommendations is not supported, it contradicts the logic of using fitness as a diagnostic which is their conclusion

    37 cohort studies where the authors had controlled for confounding factors like existence of illness and risk factors (page 8) and used sophisticated methods to avoid reverse-causation bias (pages 9, 14).
    After excluding the studies that

    “Sophisticated method” is to exclude “those with ≤5 years of follow-up”. Health is a continuum and not dying within 5 years doesn’t indicate absence of reverse causation.

    Specifically, in the video I showed you Professor Calbet explains the results of the mating experiments with mice selected for a genetically high vo2max

    This could only support “reverse causation” explanation of the correlation.

    Of course, 99.9% of the respondents would choose the second guy. For some strange reason, you keep insisting that there is no reason to give that common sense answer.

    You still don’t understand the point. This “folk belief” would support reverse causation.

    Let’s say, your grandparents were horse farmers. When you stress test them for cardio respiratory fitness, one of their horses runs around the farm. Another horse collapses after a minute.

    Which will they believe is more likely to die soon?

    Is the folk belief because “we haven’t made the horse do enough exercise”? Or is it because “the energy of the horse is result of how healthy they are?”.

    With the mice. If you want to have more energic children of mice, you would choose the mice with more energetic parents. Does this imply “we should make the mice run more on the wheel”? Or does this imply “mice running more on wheel is symptom mice being more healthy”?

    hey used the following techniques to address that question and many more that could introduce bias in the cohort studies and compromise the quality of the evidence:

    GRADE (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation)
    PRISMA and MOOSE guidelines
    Cochrane Risk of Bias in Non-randomised Studies (ROBINS-I)
    Begg’s funnel plots
    Egger’s regression symmetry test
    Stata module metaninf
    Duval and Tweedie’s nonparametric trim-and-fill method

    I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools but… are you? Reply honestly and explain why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.

    Actually I watched some of the Cochrane videos on YouTube when they explain these.

    The paper is meta analysis. GRADE and ROBINS-I are software to check different aspects like the papers are not hiding results.

    The funnel plots/Egger’s are designed to check the researchers are not doing publication bias.

    metaninf is a module in Stata. It sounds like it retrieves information about the proportion of influence of each study in the final.

    metaninf is a command in the software which finds the contribution of a study to the final result. This is related to the topic I was explaining to Yahya a few months ago, when he became pretty angry.

    Metaanalysis often is to view not each study as equally weighted, but the participants in the study. In terns of the discussion about “correlation between IQ test results and economic history”, then our analysis would be a lot more influenced by China than by Norway, because many more “partipants” in the study.

    why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.

    None of those are relevant to our discussion. The meta-analysis is testing if there is a correlation. The problem in some of the papers is not about the existence of the correlation. It’s in the inference about causation.

    This is just pure ignorance. As it happens, I have done both a VO2max test and a stress test in the past. They both measure very different things.

    You don’t know the concept of “stress testing”?

    It’s one of the most common things in engineering. Most of the products you buy have been stress tested. Sometimes they are doing load testing to understand the modes of failure.

    In animal, V02 max would be example of doing stress testing of the animal on a part of their system.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_testing_(software)

    medicine doctor and just by coincidence, we were discussing the differences between both tests not long ago. VO2 max tests cannot be used to diagnose any illness.

    Vo2 max testing could be used to diagnose absence of many illnesses if you wanted. You would just need enough sample of the falling V02 max at different stages of the illness.

    Nonsense. There are some good reasons to avoid extreme forms of exercise if you are untrained but the CDC doesn’t say “just avoid extreme physical inactivity” at all.

    The CDC guideline you transcribed just said “just avoid extreme physical inactivity”. If you are less than their guideline you are only doing extreme physical inactivity.

    The longevity field is not about finding drugs that increase lifespan. It’s composed by the scientists that study the biological mechanisms of again and development. I

    The “longevity field” is a YouTube marketing term. It’s not an academic field. There is nowhere in the university to study the longevity field with “Professor of longevity”.

    The words “longevity field” are false marketing for consumers because it contains an implication that there are “longevity solutions”. As we know, there are not validated “longevity” drugs or treatments.

    be amused by a software engineer proclaiming

    You have contradictory expressions about computer scientists.

    In the same comment, you were posting work of software engineers while saying “I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools”, like you were happy about the people have been doing the main work in the paper – software engineers who made those tools that does the difficult work in their paper.

    Nobel laureates) would not be amused by a software engineer proclaiming that their field of study does not exist.

    If they have Nobel prize, then their field of study is chemistry, medicine, physics, economics.

    one cannot believe anything they say is not a useful criticism. There’s no information there for me to reevaluate anything I thought previously.

    As I understand you still didn’t understand the concept. Maybe this time we will be lucky?

    we are direct descendants of hunter-gatherers. Our species evolved for hundreds of thousands of years to do physical exercise in order to survive and descends from prior species that had been doing the same for millions of years

    These naturalistic arguments don’t make sense for a few reasons.

    1. After reproduction age, almost all selection was over.* The selective pressures on our current genetics were almost all until the end of reproduction age.

    While you are talking about exercise extending the lifespan of people who are over the age of reproduction, which were already outside selection.

    2. Animals have longer life expectancy in captivity than in the wild. Chimpanzees live longer in the zoo than in the jungle. Humans have much longer life expectancy now than their ancestors.

    So, the idea of societies where people live longer than their ancestors, will copy the ancestors to live longer, doesn’t make sense unless you believe some Biblical mythology.

    3. There is a lot of controversy in archelogical if humans had fire for most of their evolution, as the archelogical evidence is mixed even for something which has real evidence that shows on the ground.

    This view we would know how much ancient humans were exercising is not correct. We don’t know how much exercise they were doing. At some times, probably reproductively successful groups were doing less exercise than the unsuccessful ones, in other epochs it would change.

    4. What timeslice of evolution is relevant? Most of our systems were evolved by non-human ancestors, who would have different levels of activity during the reproductive portion of their life.

    * If we wanted to effective selectively breed animal for better aging, we would prevent them from reproducing until end of the age of reproduction, until a high proportion are not able to reproduct. This would be extending the proportion of the animals’ lifetime which is exposed to selective pressure which is the reproductive phase.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Dmitry

    Doctors are our gods. Medicine is our religion.

    You guys are debating how many angels can fit on a pin head.

    https://ia903401.us.archive.org/6/items/jon-rappoport-the-matrix-revealed-part-1/Jon-Rappoport-The-Matrix-Revealed-part-1.pdf


    the doctor is still the contact point for God. That’s the unspoken
    feeling. God and deliverance from suffering and salvation. This is not just the
    subconscious expression of a need by the patient. It is that, but it’s more. The
    medical superstructure is built that way.
     

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

    , @Mikel
    @Dmitry

    No matter how many times you are exposed to it, it is always fascinating to watch someone insist on being comically wrong in a discussion.

    The idea that you have detected a fatal flaw in all vo2max studies that all the experts in the field, Wikipedia, the American Medical Association and literally hundreds of PhDs have not been able to discover (even thought the Laukannen team explicitly looked for the presence of that fatal flaw in dozens of published papers) is remarkably unbelievable on its face. But the more you insist on making that claim, the more it becomes clear that you don't even understand what the concept of reverse causation means.

    In this particular case reverse causation would mean that instead of vo2max helping you live longer, living longer helps you have a higher vo2max. But, as we have already discussed:

    a) Living longer actually decreases your vo2max. Older people unequivocally have lower vo2max on average.
    b) Most young people don't have any disease, chronic or otherwise, in the modern world but if they don't do any exercise, their vo2max is low. Conversely, an old person is most likely to have several chronic diseases due to age but, if he has exercised intensely during his lifetime, his vo2max will be high. It is perfectly known how to increase anybody's vo2max: endurance exercise, not absence of disease.
    3) People with any given disease live longer if their vo2max is high than if it is low.

    So your argument is DEAD right there. We know what the direction of the causation is in this case of two correlated variables. I could repeat myself and provide many additional lines of evidence to show that the causation is 'higher vo2max -> lower mortality rate'. But apart from being a waste of time, it may actually give the impression that refuting your hypothesis requires more sophisticated arguments than what I have said above when in reality it doesn't.

    Let's suppose that scientists catch a number of fish and observe that the bigger they are, the more mercury they have in their tissues. If that was all we knew, two null hypotheses could be established: H01- Growing up makes fish accumulate mercury. Ho2- Ingesting mercury helps fish grow up. Strictly speaking, this is the right approach, Scientists should resist the temptation of making the data say more than it can say. Establishing only valid inferences is the very nature of the scientific method.

    However, as time passes, much more data is gathered. Scientists observe that fish that live in bodies of water with less mercury grow as much as the more contaminated ones but they also have higher levels the bigger they are. Additionally, juvenile fish that weren't even studied originally show only traces of mercury. Now H02 becomes a crackpot theory and cannot be proposed seriously as an explanation of the data. This is exactly what you are doing: 'Look, these scientists are just looking at the mercury in another batch of fish but they are not asking themselves if the mercury is what causes fish to grow!'

    I may or may not say more on this topic. I've just returned from a vo2 boosting hike at high altitude and it's time to relax but don't bother muddying the waters with replies to other issues if you are unable to address the crux of the matter in this comment.

    , @Mikel
    @Dmitry


    Your credentialism is surprising
     
    Saying that you don't have a clue on exercise physiology, especially compared to the world experts in exercise physiology, is not credentialism. That's like you claiming that you know more than me on computer science and me arguing that that's credentialism.

    The meta-analysis is testing if there is a correlation.
     
    No, the meta-analysis is testing if the evidence in the papers they examined is strong enough after excluding signs of reverse causation, publication bias and a host of other methodological problems, as I explained giving you the exact pages where they describe their methods. You may ignore it because you're too proud to admit that you're mistaken but it's still there.

    You don’t know the concept of “stress testing”?
     
    I don't care about the "concept of stress testing". We're discussing cardio-respiratory fitness and in cardiology a stress test has a very specific meaning that you seem to know nothing about.

    Vo2 max testing could be used to diagnose absence of many illnesses if you wanted.
     
    No, you can't diagnose any illness with a vo2max test. There are some illnesses that can prevent you from even doing a vo2max test but it would be insane to use the inability to do a vo2max test to diagnose the existence of those illnesses when there are direct and safe methods to test for them.

    The “longevity field” is a YouTube marketing term. It’s not an academic field.
     
    That's like saying that the econometrics field is a youtube marketing field because all econometricians belong to the field of economics or traumatology is a youtube marketing field because all traumatologists belong to the medicine field.

    There is nowhere in the university to study the longevity field with “Professor of longevity”.
     
    A quick Google search returns a plethora of results:

    University of Southern California - Longevity Institute
    Florida state University - Institute for Successful Longevity
    Northwestern University - Potocsnak Longevity Institute
    University of Washington - Healthy Aging and Longevity (HALO) Research Institute
    ...

    I could carry on but what for? Once again, just because you have no clue on business cycles it doesn't mean that economists are not going to carry on investigating them. And just because you don't have a clue on the biological mechanisms of aging, it doesn't mean that hundreds of scientists are not going to spend their lives studying them.

    Not only do longevity scientists exist. You're actually paying their research with your taxes lol. Most of their research is carried out via public grants.


    you were happy about the people have been doing the main work in the paper – software engineers who made those tools that does the difficult work in their paper.
     
    LOL. Computer scientists didn't invent statistics. On the contrary, statisticians had to teach some software engineers part of their discipline so that they could develop tools like Excel and R to make computation and visual tools much faster. In fact, most of these tools were actually developed directly by mathematicians that learned to code rather than other way around. I have worked with IT engineers for many years now and they are pretty clueless outside of their field of expertise. I definitely learned much more statistics for my economics degree that they ever did and I would categorize my statistical knowledge as modest to mediocre.


    While you are talking about exercise extending the lifespan of people who are over the age of reproduction, which were already outside selection.
     
    It doesn't matter in the slightest. You're not thinking with clarity here. Evolution doesn't care about the individual past the reproductive age (which in human males is very long). But it cares a lot about fitness during reproductive age and it just so happens that (as everybody knows) fitness allows you to live longer.


    So, the idea of societies where people live longer than their ancestors, will copy the ancestors to live longer, doesn’t make sense unless you believe some Biblical mythology.
     
    It's actually the idea that you can atrophy the organs that nature gave you though lack of use and stay healthy that is pure voodoo magic thinking.

    There is a lot of controversy in archelogical if humans had fire for most of their evolution
     
    There is exactly zero controversy on that matter. I hope you meant to say hominids instead of humans but even if it's just a mistaken term, what does it say about your general scientific knowledge that you can confuse humans with hominids?

    At some times, probably reproductively successful groups were doing less exercise than the unsuccessful ones
     
    Successful groups may have been able to enjoy periods of lower physical activity than the less successful ones but up until very recently in human evolution life was harsh enough for the principle of "survival of the fittest" to apply to humans just as much as to any other species. A pride of successful lions will also enjoy periods of lower physical activity than the ones living on the margins of the hunting grounds but that doesn't mean that lions that become atrophied and unable to run for a prey have higher life expectancy.
  577. @LatW
    @Dmitry


    They have working governments with EU monitoring, they don’t have wars or even political instability for thirty years.
     
    EU monitoring is probably not the right way of phrasing it - there was close cooperation before 2004, as part of integration processes, but not now. And even back then we relied on our own institutions mostly and the parliamentary system which could be rocky so it's not like we were always artificially "propped up" (as you seem to imply, although you're not wrong that there is support and there was pressure during the accession). If you mean that there was institutional help from the EU and investments that Ukraine, for example, didn't receive, then yes, but Ukraine was receiving some FDI before 2022 based purely on its own attractiveness because trade was growing. I don't think Ukraine ever lacked food.

    I didn't mean to compare Ukraine with the Baltic States - I believe Ukraine has a much more challenging position (even before the invasion), but also more potential. Ukraine's position is much more complex (this is an understatement) and undeservedly so.

    Maybe I didn't express myself clearly - I was referring to ads on American cable TV that were run prior to 2022 (doubt you have seen these). This was before the war when things were easier. Even though there was war already then, there were still affluent Jewish (and Ukrainian, Russian or other) individuals in Ukraine (some of who later bailed to Dubai and elsewhere). That doesn't mean there were no poor Jews there, ofc. IIRC, these ads were showing poor elderly Jews, saying these are Jews from some East Slavic countries (or Holocaust survivors). I don't recall which country or if they even mentioned it (but they painted it as some awful place somewhere in the East). I felt that this was a bit exaggerated but I admit that in parts of EE there could be such people. If you noticed, I did write - if there are poor, they should be helped (regardless where the funding comes from). We, too, have poor people, of all nationalities, and there are services for them that are not connected to international donors. There are many locally run charities.

    Someone above implied that these ads might be a scam, which I personally doubt, but I simply pointed out what I felt didn't match with reality. Some of the Jewish run businesses have traditionally been non-transparent, I'm not saying most, but it's a stereotype - personally, I find it amusing (as long as nobody gets swindled) because they don't have hang ups and are persistent (which is admirable in a way). They are scrappy and are not averse to creative solutions. :) In the US and Israel especially.

    Btw, I know Jews in my home town who have not received a single penny from any overseas donors and who get by just fine with their own jobs - and who are different from the more affluent Jews (such as those in the finance or IT sector - and there are talented and loyal ones among those, in fact, most of them, they also earn their own money from our local economy). They have small businesses and private shops, they don't have a lot but they do get by. These are our local Jews that we've always had.

    There are two Jewish communities in Latvia - one is the authentic local one and the other is run by a Jewish banker who arrived from Belarus in the 1980s (you can see him in the second video you posted). This guy is loaded and he has the best contacts with the Americans. His org received 40M euros in restitution recently, purely from our budget, not international donors (yes, I know that's not a lot, but they wanted more). All the children should be "our children" and they shouldn't separate that way. Basically they wanted the state to pay for what wasn't claimed back in the early 1990s, when they weren't able to organize into a single institution to claim the money pertaining to the religions sites. This is understandable, but don't tell me, Dima, that we don't take care of our Jews. The Jewish community should not be separated from the rest. When others do not stand between us, do not meddle and don't try to decided for us, we do well.

    The Jewish school in Riga is supported financially by the Riga City council and the Riga Jewish community, as well as the local private businesses (including for the digital equipment that you saw as well as school buses), not from overseas donors - although the Jewish community might be receiving private donations from overseas as well (probably not that much). They are entitled to all of these resources (both private and public).

    Anyway, I don't want to be confrontational about this.

    I do like the videos you posted, especially the last one, the one from Lithuania. It is so cute how they are asking them "what do you associate Shabbat with". It would be fun if they learned to speak some Yiddish. Then they could walk on cobble stone streets and speak Yiddish words. Authentic. :) Happy Passover.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    affluent Jewish (and Ukrainian, Russian or other) individuals in Ukraine IT sector

    On social media I was a member of some groups for startups in Ukraine. I have a zero connection with Ukraine. I’m not a supporter of the Ukrainian government or politics. I was just in those groups in social media to follow the scene.

    When there was an event in Israel, those spaces are flooded with Israel flags. It could feel like at least half of people in the startup scene online spaces in Kiev have Jewish-roots.

    Why is it like this in Kiev?

    Maybe, the budget for education has collapsed in Ukraine in the 1990s. In the 2000s, in Ukraine there was not much access to modern informatics equipment for the majority of school students. In Russian schools it was like this.

    But, some of those schools in Ukraine had more rapid access to external funding resources from Silicon Valley and international organizations. They had the ICT equipment which means they were introducing students to computer science at an earlier age, creating more interest for the career path.

    For example, in 2005, Cisco became the partner to a secular Jewish school in Kiev. https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/global/ru_ua/assets/pdf/netacadetechnology.pdf

    So, it was a kind of relatively oversupply of students from Ukrainian Jewish schools in the 2000s epoch, as those schools were faster to access external funding and had the relevant equipment for pre-university interest in the area.

    In 2020s, more of Ukrainian society has ways to access external funding resources and the distribution of the equipment is almost universal, so it would been a very temporary situation of the 2000s.

    Also, I wouldn’t say ICT sector is affluent there. But they are more affluent than the other segments of the middle class.

    (you can see him in the second video you posted).

    Sukharenko. You fear he will cut from the restitution budget and move the money to Belarus? Latvia is in the EU so they should have some rules of accountancy when spending government money.

    including for the digital equipment that you saw as well as school buses), not from overseas donors –

    Latvia spends $2 million to give them a new building. But it seems like the technology labs, was from an external funding resource. https://rus.delfi.lv/5503960/commercials/38499865/novaya-zhizn-rizhskoy-evreyskoy-sredney-shkoly-im-sh-dubnova

    . It would be fun if they learned to speak some Yiddish. Then they could walk on cobble stone streets and speak Yiddish words. Authentic. 🙂 Happy Passover

    Isn’t this one of the Russian schools of Latvia which now has to transition language to Latvian.

    They had to remove the Russian identity from the school and replace it with Latvian. They will only teach Latvian and Hebrew in the school now.

    Children are flexible and don’t care much. It’s probably not easy for their teachers. I wonder if a lot of the Soviet teachers with Russian nationality will just retire?

  578. @S1
    @songbird


    I feel like it is good to have some division of sexes, even if it is reduced to such a small, drudge task, it seems to carry a symbolic value or virtue.
     
    As you imply, while there are certainly many similarities between men and women, there are also some natural organic differences between the sexes as well, which should be respected. The whole should be taken into account.

    The problem with the 'equality' (which literally means 'sameness') fanatics is that those differences are quite real and attempting to wish them away or pretend they aren't there won't change things, ie the typical 30 percent plus muscle mass difference between men and women, and women have babies and men don't, etc.

    Attempting to ignore this reality is getting women killed and men seriously hurt.

    [That's not to say that in the past there weren't (and aren't) serious abuses of women taking place, and real problems in the relationship between the sexes that need working on. However, for the reasons outlined, I suppose I'm a bit more into the idea of fairness, a real fairness, rather than 'equality'.]

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I suppose I’m a bit more into the idea of fairness, a real fairness, rather than ‘equality’

    Equality means equal opportunity, not equal outcome (this in the lingo of woke BS is “equity”). Men and women are different in many things in addition to reproductive roles. Most men have more testosterone, which is a natural anabolic. That determines greater muscle mass in men. This also makes it unfair for males (with high natural testosterone) to compete in women’s sports: this is worse than doping.

    High testosterone/estrogen ratio likely also makes males more arrogant and aggressive, whereas the opposite ratio makes females more level-headed. This difference manifests itself in everything. E.g., I taught for 15+ years to our graduate students a course that is in many ways a test of intelligence. I consistently found that among the top three performers on the final test (in a class of 60-70, so this is statistically significant) there were two females and one male. From my POV this does not mean that females are smarter, it just means that males are more arrogant: it takes greater intelligence for females to decide to go to grad school. Male aggressiveness and arrogance are biologically advantageous, both are needed for the defense of the territory and progeny.

    In my experience both human males and females greatly vary in intelligence, from very dumb all the way to remarkably bright. I have no data on averages (e.g., among grad school students female average is higher, but that’s the result of self-selection), but the highest levels of male and female intelligence are about the same. That’s why I believe that women should have the same opportunities as men. Naturally, the outcomes are widely different among both sexes.

    Human females tend to be more patient: a biologically advantageous trait for mothers. That’s why watch-assembly in all countries is done almost exclusively by females.

    Males and females of all mammals, including humans, have numerous psychological differences selected by evolution for reproductive success of the species. Our survival, both as a biological species and as intelligent beings, depends on both sexes and requires the sum total of qualities of men and women.

    Repeat, by “equality” I mean exclusively equal opportunity.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    An excellent comment, overall. Ukraine is your blind spot.

    One minor correction:


    In my experience both human males and females greatly vary in intelligence, from very dumb all the way to remarkably bright. I have no data on averages (e.g., among grad school students female average is higher, but that’s the result of self-selection), but the highest levels of male and female intelligence are about the same.
     
    As in other physical attributes, female variation is smaller than in men. For example, women vary less from the average female height then men do from the average male height (there are more extremely tall and extremely short men then there are women).

    It is similar for intelligence (except the average is the same, while in height of course men are on average taller than women): the male and female average intelligence is about the same, but men are more likely to be found at the extreme bottom and at the extreme top. I don't recall the exact difference in variability, it isn't extreme - there are plenty of brilliant women, too.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

  579. @Dmitry
    @Mikel


    In the last meta-analysis that I gave you
     
    You said about parrots. I need to repeat like a parrot because I was uncertain if you understand the concept I am explaining. From posting the last paper, it seems it was correct to be uncertain.

    The paper concludes there is an "association" which is the correlation we have been discussing so they say cardio-respiratory fitness can be a diagnostic for mortality. To be a good diagnostic, the direction is health -> cardiovascular fitness.


    right there you have a group of PhDs giving a formal and rigorous answer to the very questions you keep repeating for several weeks

     

    Your credentialism is surprising because the problem is many of the authors of these papers seem to not have formal education in the inference parts of their papers. They are do inferences which they don't have the education level to understand. Some of them don't always understand the implications the tests they choose from the software menu.

    In this last paper unlike an earlier one you posted, they understand they cannot say much so and conclude modestly there is an association and this association can be diagnostic. Although some of their writing inside about exercise recommendations is not supported, it contradicts the logic of using fitness as a diagnostic which is their conclusion


    37 cohort studies where the authors had controlled for confounding factors like existence of illness and risk factors (page 8) and used sophisticated methods to avoid reverse-causation bias (pages 9, 14).
    After excluding the studies that
     
    "Sophisticated method" is to exclude "those with ≤5 years of follow-up". Health is a continuum and not dying within 5 years doesn't indicate absence of reverse causation.

    Specifically, in the video I showed you Professor Calbet explains the results of the mating experiments with mice selected for a genetically high vo2max

     

    This could only support "reverse causation" explanation of the correlation.

    Of course, 99.9% of the respondents would choose the second guy. For some strange reason, you keep insisting that there is no reason to give that common sense answer.

     

    You still don't understand the point. This "folk belief" would support reverse causation.

    Let's say, your grandparents were horse farmers. When you stress test them for cardio respiratory fitness, one of their horses runs around the farm. Another horse collapses after a minute.

    Which will they believe is more likely to die soon?

    Is the folk belief because "we haven't made the horse do enough exercise"? Or is it because "the energy of the horse is result of how healthy they are?".

    -

    With the mice. If you want to have more energic children of mice, you would choose the mice with more energetic parents. Does this imply "we should make the mice run more on the wheel"? Or does this imply "mice running more on wheel is symptom mice being more healthy"?

    hey used the following techniques to address that question and many more that could introduce bias in the cohort studies and compromise the quality of the evidence:


    GRADE (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation)
    PRISMA and MOOSE guidelines
    Cochrane Risk of Bias in Non-randomised Studies (ROBINS-I)
    Begg’s funnel plots
    Egger’s regression symmetry test
    Stata module metaninf
    Duval and Tweedie’s nonparametric trim-and-fill method

    I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools but… are you? Reply honestly and explain why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.
     

    Actually I watched some of the Cochrane videos on YouTube when they explain these.

    The paper is meta analysis. GRADE and ROBINS-I are software to check different aspects like the papers are not hiding results.

    The funnel plots/Egger's are designed to check the researchers are not doing publication bias.

    metaninf is a module in Stata. It sounds like it retrieves information about the proportion of influence of each study in the final.

    metaninf is a command in the software which finds the contribution of a study to the final result. This is related to the topic I was explaining to Yahya a few months ago, when he became pretty angry.

    Metaanalysis often is to view not each study as equally weighted, but the participants in the study. In terns of the discussion about "correlation between IQ test results and economic history", then our analysis would be a lot more influenced by China than by Norway, because many more "partipants" in the study.


    why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.

     

    None of those are relevant to our discussion. The meta-analysis is testing if there is a correlation. The problem in some of the papers is not about the existence of the correlation. It's in the inference about causation.

    This is just pure ignorance. As it happens, I have done both a VO2max test and a stress test in the past. They both measure very different things.

     

    You don't know the concept of "stress testing"?

    It's one of the most common things in engineering. Most of the products you buy have been stress tested. Sometimes they are doing load testing to understand the modes of failure.

    In animal, V02 max would be example of doing stress testing of the animal on a part of their system.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_testing_(software)


    medicine doctor and just by coincidence, we were discussing the differences between both tests not long ago. VO2 max tests cannot be used to diagnose any illness.
     
    Vo2 max testing could be used to diagnose absence of many illnesses if you wanted. You would just need enough sample of the falling V02 max at different stages of the illness.

    Nonsense. There are some good reasons to avoid extreme forms of exercise if you are untrained but the CDC doesn’t say “just avoid extreme physical inactivity” at all.

     

    The CDC guideline you transcribed just said “just avoid extreme physical inactivity”. If you are less than their guideline you are only doing extreme physical inactivity.

    The longevity field is not about finding drugs that increase lifespan. It’s composed by the scientists that study the biological mechanisms of again and development. I

     

    The "longevity field" is a YouTube marketing term. It's not an academic field. There is nowhere in the university to study the longevity field with "Professor of longevity".

    The words "longevity field" are false marketing for consumers because it contains an implication that there are "longevity solutions". As we know, there are not validated "longevity" drugs or treatments.


    be amused by a software engineer proclaiming

     

    You have contradictory expressions about computer scientists.

    In the same comment, you were posting work of software engineers while saying "I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools", like you were happy about the people have been doing the main work in the paper - software engineers who made those tools that does the difficult work in their paper.


    Nobel laureates) would not be amused by a software engineer proclaiming that their field of study does not exist.
     
    If they have Nobel prize, then their field of study is chemistry, medicine, physics, economics.

    one cannot believe anything they say is not a useful criticism. There’s no information there for me to reevaluate anything I thought previously.

     

    As I understand you still didn't understand the concept. Maybe this time we will be lucky?

    we are direct descendants of hunter-gatherers. Our species evolved for hundreds of thousands of years to do physical exercise in order to survive and descends from prior species that had been doing the same for millions of years

     

    These naturalistic arguments don't make sense for a few reasons.

    1. After reproduction age, almost all selection was over.* The selective pressures on our current genetics were almost all until the end of reproduction age.

    While you are talking about exercise extending the lifespan of people who are over the age of reproduction, which were already outside selection.

    2. Animals have longer life expectancy in captivity than in the wild. Chimpanzees live longer in the zoo than in the jungle. Humans have much longer life expectancy now than their ancestors.

    So, the idea of societies where people live longer than their ancestors, will copy the ancestors to live longer, doesn't make sense unless you believe some Biblical mythology.

    3. There is a lot of controversy in archelogical if humans had fire for most of their evolution, as the archelogical evidence is mixed even for something which has real evidence that shows on the ground.

    This view we would know how much ancient humans were exercising is not correct. We don't know how much exercise they were doing. At some times, probably reproductively successful groups were doing less exercise than the unsuccessful ones, in other epochs it would change.

    4. What timeslice of evolution is relevant? Most of our systems were evolved by non-human ancestors, who would have different levels of activity during the reproductive portion of their life.



    -

    * If we wanted to effective selectively breed animal for better aging, we would prevent them from reproducing until end of the age of reproduction, until a high proportion are not able to reproduct. This would be extending the proportion of the animals' lifetime which is exposed to selective pressure which is the reproductive phase.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel, @Mikel

    Doctors are our gods. Medicine is our religion.

    You guys are debating how many angels can fit on a pin head.

    https://ia903401.us.archive.org/6/items/jon-rappoport-the-matrix-revealed-part-1/Jon-Rappoport-The-Matrix-Revealed-part-1.pdf

    the doctor is still the contact point for God. That’s the unspoken
    feeling. God and deliverance from suffering and salvation. This is not just the
    subconscious expression of a need by the patient. It is that, but it’s more. The
    medical superstructure is built that way.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Is this map real?
    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1784227954379407371

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    You guys are debating how many angels can fit on a pin head.
     
    I wish Dmitry was capable of a byzantine debate. But unfortunately, all he is doing is repeat time and again a tinfoil-hat hypothesis, impervious to any evidence, expert assessment and scientific paper he is presented with.

    Speaking of byzantine debates, do you have any opinion on the zone-2 debate at all? It may not matter too much for those of us not competing in any sport but at least it's a legitimate debate between heavy-weights that I find interesting to follow. I would rather spend weeks discussing that than Dmitry's nonsense. I do have some opinions based on my experience but no firm conclusions yet.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  580. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    Stop embarrassing yourself, you know literally nothing about it. Try to think: an atheist country with a lukewarm attitude toward religion and militant hostility by millions of seculars and leftists towards the Catholic Church - Habsburg's Catholicism was very unpopular - with plentiful open churches needed an 'underground church"? Why? Almost all believers were old ladies. In the cities (including Slovakia) people were indifferent and used the church only for basics: baptism, marriage...empty rituals and music.

    The religious fundamentalists were unpopular - young people made fun of them, it had nothing to do with commies. They were "Jesus-freak" morons for us. The Poles were ridiculed for their perceived religiosity. There were remote areas that had (and have) more active church but there was no need to have 'underground' priests - they had priests and the congregations were old women and a few oddball enthusiasts.

    But go on, you just prove again how deficient 'merican education and understnding of other societies is. Stick with your Polish clericals, we have never been like that. In Slovakia or southern Moravia it is slightly more religious, but only in small towns and villages - even there the active believers are a minority. You don't understand anything.

    Replies: @AP

    A midwit is supposed to be someone intelligent enough to absorb and learn a lot from teachers or the media, but not smart enough to see through any bullshit that they are being fed.

    You are a late Commie-era Czechoslovak midwit.

    Midwits can be fun and useful: for example, I don’t need to read history or political tracts published in Soviet-occupied Czechoslovakia. I can learn what the people were taught about their history and their attitudes towards others simply by communicating with you. It’s all there: the myths about the Hapsburgs, the myths about atheism, the myths about progress relative to the West, the glaring blindspots about the Underground Church in your own lands. And yes, even the cynicism and dishonesty, very characteristic of late-era Socialism in eastern Europe.

    Now let’s respond to your empty words:

    Try to think: an atheist country with a lukewarm attitude toward religion and militant hostility by millions of seculars and leftists towards the Catholic Church – Habsburg’s Catholicism was very unpopular – with plentiful open churches needed an ‘underground church“? Why? Almost all believers were old ladies.

    Czechoslovakia was more atheistic than its neighbors got a long time, but was not always an “atheist country.”

    This is what the Czech embassy claims:

    https://mzv.gov.cz/ottawa/en/general_information_on_the_czech/religion/index.html

    Presently, 39.8% of Czechs consider themselves atheist; 39.2% are Roman Catholics; 4.6% are Protestant, with 1.9% in the Czech-founded Hussite Reform Church, 1.6% in the Czech Brotherhood Evangelic Church, and 0.5% in the Silesian Evangelic Church; 3% are members of the Orthodox Church; and 13.4% are undecided.

    This Czech researcher claims atheism in Czechia is currently at 78% (this number is probably more accurate, I suspect many of the 39% on the Embassy page are members of the Church who don’t actually believe):

    https://philarchive.org/rec/VITTCR-2

    However it was only 56% in 1991.

    So in the 1970s and 1980s around half of Czechs were religious. Given the size of the Underground Catholic Church, it seems that the number of official priests was insufficient. And also, many Catholics did not want priests who compromised with the authorities.

    Furthermore, official priests were limited n the ability to serve people in certain settings – so the Underground ones played this role.

    Also I was discussing Czechoslovakia which includes Czechia and more-devout Slovakia.

    The religious fundamentalists were unpopular

    So proclaims the dishonest Beckow.

    The same one who insisted the Underground priests were crazy street preachers, rather than priests ordained by bishops.

    Here is an interview with one of the underground Catholic priests in Czechoslovakia (secretly ordained by a German bishop in 1978), published by University of Notre Dame Press. He is, himself a professor at Charles University in Prague. You will now frantically compare it to the Congo:

    https://undpress.nd.edu/blog/2020/07/01/an-interview-with-tomas-halik-author-of-from-the-underground-church-to-freedom/

    What form did the underground Catholic Church take in Communist Czechoslovakia?

    “It was not a united organization—there were several groups. One part consisted of priests who had been officially ordained but who had lost their government permission to serve as priests. All these official priests were practically in a schizophrenic situation. They were paid by the state, but if they performed their work well—if they had a full church, or the interest of young people—they were punished. Everywhere there were Communist-appointed secretaries for church affairs who controlled everything, especially the priests, and they had the power to take away their permission without any explanation. If a priest had some kind of activity with young people, he was especially likely to be punished. Some were sent to regions near the border, which was practically a religious desert. Or, their permission was taken away completely, and they had to work as a window cleaner or janitor. So they worked in such jobs while continuing to perform some priestly activity in private apartments.

    Another part of the underground Church were priests who had been secretly ordained by bishops who had themselves been secretly ordained. Even prior to the Communist putsch in 1948, Pope Pius XII expected hard persecution of the Church, so he allowed the secret ordination of bishops for this time of persecution. But practically all of these secretly ordained bishops were discovered and arrested by the Communist secret police. Some of them used the last moment before they were taken into prison to ordain another bishop. However, this was without a decision of the Holy See, so things became complicated from the point of view of canon law.

    The third part of the underground Church were priests who were ordained by bishops in other so-called socialist countries, such as Poland and East Germany, to which we were allowed to travel. I was ordained a priest in East Germany in 1978, in the private chapel of the bishop of Erfurt.”

    just prove again how deficient ‘merican education and understnding

    You have quite adequately demonstrated the deficiency of your education in Slovakia.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    You doubled down on your ignorant idiocy. Czecho-slovakia was about 80% agnostic-atheist. Almost all church goers were elderly village-small town women, we all had a few in our families. People answer surveys based on who they are by origin and culturally. I would answer Protestant not 'atheist'.

    In the early 90's there was a short burst of people 'discovering' their family church affiliations, it didn't last. Two slightly religious regions are Southern Moravia (not the north) and rural Slovakia (not the cities). Even under the commies they had pilgrimages: a crowd of old ladies with crosses singing while marching up some hill. Nobody suppressed them, it was folklore, it was even shown on TV.

    What you call 'underground' were a few charismatic morons kept on the outs by the official conformist church - the old ladies didn't want crazies screaming 'Jesus!"and old Testament genocide stories, they wanted a calm ritual and music.

    The people you quote are political - they were kept from power before 1989 and will be forever bitter. They exaggerate and lie, they are sponsored by the Western religious nuts - Baptists, Mormons, LGBT-church (Halik? do you have any idea who that homo is?), intelligence agencies. Same as the fanatical Moslems were initially supported by West to fight nationalism and socialism.

    But I suspect you are too ideological to understand any of this.

    Replies: @AP

  581. @songbird
    @LatW


    The US is not “feminist” in the Scandinavian sense
     
    Well, naturally there are different demographic inputs. I don't think it would be the same, even if the slaves had been resettled in Liberia. But at this point, it seems clear that the Scandi model is not desirable either.

    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women, but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.

    Am sure we haven't seen the height of US feminism yet. I think it will get a lot worse, as the percentage of married women decline and it becomes more PoC feminist.

    What makes you say though that the US is not controlled by men at the top levels?
     
    If it were, Bezos's fortune wouldn't have been split. Manifestly the law does not work in the full interests of oligarch men. Therefore, they don't have full control, even if there is nobody formally above them.

    But I am largely ignorant to life in the Eastern Bloc.

    >I noticed that.
     
    We can't all be EEs.

    No offense, but do you really remember it that well? Did you experience such a cross-section of it? I don't think I really had a good idea of American politics when I was a teenager, and I wasn't a Normie but an political outlier in a very blue state.

    I once asked a German man who had been a teenager in East Germany a question about whether Russian was mandatory and he answered with confidence that one could choose English or Russian, though this doesn't seem to be correct, as far as I can establish.

    What I seem to notice is that there is an age effect. People above a certain age often have a sort of nostalgia. Maybe, they make too many excuses or it is tied to the pleasures of their youth. People below a certain age (really too young to remember) seem to think as though it was the worst thing ever, which past a certain period is surely an exaggeration.

    As to the cartoon you posted, honestly, I can’t really see what is so great about the 1989 version (I hope it’s an adult cartoon).
     
    basically a Pixar tech demo. They made shorts first because it was impossible to make movies back then.

    I'm not really a huge fan of CGI. (Or 3d animation, though CG is in everything now) I certainly don't consider the thing art, but more an interesting marker for political changes - not necessarily the societal one - but in that microenvironment. (It certainly effects American animation now in a very big way.)

    You'd be surprised but animators were always making these sort of pornographic things for their entertainment. It happened early at Pixar and it happened during the golden age of Disney. The Japanese do it all the time, they will doodle in public spaces, like coffee shops, as well as do it commercially.

    Not to be overcrass, but speaking personally I wouldn't say I am an especial fan of big boobs. (Fake are quite gross) I just see the feminist political domination of depictions as a negative marker. As well, it often effects faces and other featuress and narrative structure and is generally unpleasing.

    The Japanese seem to show an appreciation for both big and small boobs without the politicization or other aspects of it. But their appreciation wouldn't pass the political tests because the stereotype of their depiction is for the small-breasted characters to be jealous of the big-breasted ones. And they would never depict ugly faces.

    Replies: @LatW, @Coconuts

    Interesting, what LatW was writing reminded me of my own impression of Soviet feminism. One of my grandmothers was a kind of working-class feminist, but the feminism of the 1930s and 40s. Soviet feminism always reminded me of that, more austere than the Western versions, even into the 80s. I know my wife was always finding her views were closer to my older relatives. Possibly one of the counter-intuitive ways the Soviet revolution proved to be more socially conservative than the neo-liberal revolution of the 1980s.

    [MORE]

    There is this famous Soviet era war film, which shows a different form of feminism, from earlier in the 20th century:

    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women, but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.

    This is a feature of some of the more radical Western forms of feminism. I have seen it in American and Australian feminists who present Islam in a favourable light as a natural ally against white patriarchy. And one of the French nationalist magazines, Livre noir, just presented the results of a long investigation they carried out by infiltrating a reporter into various french far-left feminist activist groups, who revealed all the contacts they had with jihadis and other Islamist groups.

    Ed Dutton might have some of the explanation for this, when he talks about how extreme feminists can actually be more attracted to dominant and transgressive male types. Otherwise it is like the usual revolutionary tactic of fostering division and polarised conflict that is supposed to result in the overthrow of the oppressor group, just the results are more likely to be disastrous if it involves European feminists trying to ally with Islamists. I would guess that most European women who have contact with large Muslim communities will understand they are not natural allies for promoting feminism.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Coconuts

    The "feminists" who embrace Islam, especially reactionary Islam, are an interesting case study. Are these women so ideologically conditioned that they simply cannot see the foolishness of this position or are they really, really, dumb? Or are they feminists in name only, being women who prefer the strong patriarchal control and want to sneak this in under an acceptable banner?

    By foolishness I mean incompatibility between female empowerment and normal practicing Islam. I am not including any secularized, bastardized Islam which is so sorely needed; that is a different topic.

    , @songbird
    @Coconuts


    There is this famous Soviet era war film, which shows a different form of feminism, from earlier in the 20th century

     

    Thanks, I haven't seen this movie.

    Possibly one of the counter-intuitive ways the Soviet revolution proved to be more socially conservative than the neo-liberal revolution of the 1980s.
     
    It's just incident, but I was struck by how one of the young women in the Dyatlov Pass Incident seemed to imbue party rhetoric into everything that she wrote. I think Soviet control of ideological structures meant that they could fill up the mindspace of these young women, and perhaps prevent the more radical forms from growing.

    The communist sphere would have been an interesting place to study feminism comparitively. I'm thinking especially of the different levels of material prosperity and how this might have affected the practice. East Germany vs. Mongolia.

    Ed Dutton might have some of the explanation for this, when he talks about how extreme feminists can actually be more attracted to dominant and transgressive male types.
     
    My theory is that any radical group formed in part by sexual psychology is going to be more dominantly aggressive and antagonistic than any other kind division as the brain is more evolved for sex and male or female relations than dealing with other ethnic groups, so more obsessive about the first.

    The influence of gays often seems to come to the fore or be recognized, but I think the influence of lesbians may be underestimated.
  582. @Coconuts
    @songbird

    Interesting, what LatW was writing reminded me of my own impression of Soviet feminism. One of my grandmothers was a kind of working-class feminist, but the feminism of the 1930s and 40s. Soviet feminism always reminded me of that, more austere than the Western versions, even into the 80s. I know my wife was always finding her views were closer to my older relatives. Possibly one of the counter-intuitive ways the Soviet revolution proved to be more socially conservative than the neo-liberal revolution of the 1980s.

    There is this famous Soviet era war film, which shows a different form of feminism, from earlier in the 20th century:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_7QP-gIVew

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq8E4lIdEzA


    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women, but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.
     
    This is a feature of some of the more radical Western forms of feminism. I have seen it in American and Australian feminists who present Islam in a favourable light as a natural ally against white patriarchy. And one of the French nationalist magazines, Livre noir, just presented the results of a long investigation they carried out by infiltrating a reporter into various french far-left feminist activist groups, who revealed all the contacts they had with jihadis and other Islamist groups.

    Ed Dutton might have some of the explanation for this, when he talks about how extreme feminists can actually be more attracted to dominant and transgressive male types. Otherwise it is like the usual revolutionary tactic of fostering division and polarised conflict that is supposed to result in the overthrow of the oppressor group, just the results are more likely to be disastrous if it involves European feminists trying to ally with Islamists. I would guess that most European women who have contact with large Muslim communities will understand they are not natural allies for promoting feminism.

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    The “feminists” who embrace Islam, especially reactionary Islam, are an interesting case study. Are these women so ideologically conditioned that they simply cannot see the foolishness of this position or are they really, really, dumb? Or are they feminists in name only, being women who prefer the strong patriarchal control and want to sneak this in under an acceptable banner?

    By foolishness I mean incompatibility between female empowerment and normal practicing Islam. I am not including any secularized, bastardized Islam which is so sorely needed; that is a different topic.

  583. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Dmitry

    Doctors are our gods. Medicine is our religion.

    You guys are debating how many angels can fit on a pin head.

    https://ia903401.us.archive.org/6/items/jon-rappoport-the-matrix-revealed-part-1/Jon-Rappoport-The-Matrix-Revealed-part-1.pdf


    the doctor is still the contact point for God. That’s the unspoken
    feeling. God and deliverance from suffering and salvation. This is not just the
    subconscious expression of a need by the patient. It is that, but it’s more. The
    medical superstructure is built that way.
     

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

    Is this map real?

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    1. the comments on mapporn are worth a look

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1ceqwp7/newborn_circumcision_rates_by_state_2022/

    2. Richard Hanania is the same stupid cunt who claims that the corona virus medicine invention, production, and distribution is the greatest human achievement of the 21st century.

    Replies: @QCIC

  584. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Is this map real?
    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1784227954379407371

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    1. the comments on mapporn are worth a look

    Newborn circumcision rates by state – 2022
    byu/gogandmagogandgog inMapPorn

    2. Richard Hanania is the same stupid cunt who claims that the corona virus medicine invention, production, and distribution is the greatest human achievement of the 21st century.

    • Agree: songbird
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    So green shows the areas which in 20 years will be "no habla ingles". [Meaning the majority of births are hispanic, which we already knew.]

  585. @Derer
    @Greasy William


    There is 0 chance that the US is able to continue funding this war if it can’t just continue to pay with Monopoly money
     
    ...and 32 trillion borrowing, mostly from China.

    Replies: @Beckow

    It is heading to $34 trillion, foreign countries hold 25%, China less than 4%. That is not good, it would actually be better if the debt was held abroad because it would be possible to devalue or ‘sanction’ it.

    75% of US debt is held by US institutions. Debt is a claim on the same asset by two parties: both can consume based on it. It pumps up the economy and in beneficial in smaller ratios. Today the US GNP would be 30 to 50% smaller without Fed debt.

    US debt will soon be twice the GNP, the numbers will not work – simply math. Any spending cuts would have to be so drastic -15 to 20% including pensions – that the US economy would halt.

    The enemies (BRICS) are circling around. They know the dollar is a house of cards and time is on their side. The dumbest thing for Washington was to go for more wars, provoking the un-winnable Ukie war, maximalist Izrael, messing with China – Taiwan is an internationally recognized part of China – if Crimea is “wrong”, why is fighting with China to separate Taiwan ok?

    Maybe a huge inflation would help – devalue everything by 50-100% to get the numbers stabilized. Wars are great for justifying inflation. How is the West going to explain lower living standards to its people? Maybe they will finally call off the ‘democracy-election‘ show and just do it. They don’y have many good choices. Turning China-Russia into a united enemy was a fatal self-inflicted error.

    • Thanks: QCIC
    • Replies: @Derer
    @Beckow

    Thanks for correcting me. I guess my rhetoric in this case is not backed by reality. However, I was more thinking about the Chinese influence in holding approximately 40% of US$ foreign reserves.

    Replies: @Beckow

  586. @Coconuts
    @songbird

    Interesting, what LatW was writing reminded me of my own impression of Soviet feminism. One of my grandmothers was a kind of working-class feminist, but the feminism of the 1930s and 40s. Soviet feminism always reminded me of that, more austere than the Western versions, even into the 80s. I know my wife was always finding her views were closer to my older relatives. Possibly one of the counter-intuitive ways the Soviet revolution proved to be more socially conservative than the neo-liberal revolution of the 1980s.

    There is this famous Soviet era war film, which shows a different form of feminism, from earlier in the 20th century:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_7QP-gIVew

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq8E4lIdEzA


    A feminist society, IMO, is not one that actualizes the happiness of women, but only one that paints normal men (especially the racial core) as antagonists, thus opening the country to mass invasion.
     
    This is a feature of some of the more radical Western forms of feminism. I have seen it in American and Australian feminists who present Islam in a favourable light as a natural ally against white patriarchy. And one of the French nationalist magazines, Livre noir, just presented the results of a long investigation they carried out by infiltrating a reporter into various french far-left feminist activist groups, who revealed all the contacts they had with jihadis and other Islamist groups.

    Ed Dutton might have some of the explanation for this, when he talks about how extreme feminists can actually be more attracted to dominant and transgressive male types. Otherwise it is like the usual revolutionary tactic of fostering division and polarised conflict that is supposed to result in the overthrow of the oppressor group, just the results are more likely to be disastrous if it involves European feminists trying to ally with Islamists. I would guess that most European women who have contact with large Muslim communities will understand they are not natural allies for promoting feminism.

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    There is this famous Soviet era war film, which shows a different form of feminism, from earlier in the 20th century

    Thanks, I haven’t seen this movie.

    Possibly one of the counter-intuitive ways the Soviet revolution proved to be more socially conservative than the neo-liberal revolution of the 1980s.

    It’s just incident, but I was struck by how one of the young women in the Dyatlov Pass Incident seemed to imbue party rhetoric into everything that she wrote. I think Soviet control of ideological structures meant that they could fill up the mindspace of these young women, and perhaps prevent the more radical forms from growing.

    The communist sphere would have been an interesting place to study feminism comparitively. I’m thinking especially of the different levels of material prosperity and how this might have affected the practice. East Germany vs. Mongolia.

    Ed Dutton might have some of the explanation for this, when he talks about how extreme feminists can actually be more attracted to dominant and transgressive male types.

    My theory is that any radical group formed in part by sexual psychology is going to be more dominantly aggressive and antagonistic than any other kind division as the brain is more evolved for sex and male or female relations than dealing with other ethnic groups, so more obsessive about the first.

    The influence of gays often seems to come to the fore or be recognized, but I think the influence of lesbians may be underestimated.

  587. @LatW
    @Mr. Hack

    I know what he's talking about (infatuation with the North-West, I had it, too, as a kid and in my early 20s), but he's exaggerating as always - most EEs are not that way and it doesn't mean that, even if they have this syndrome, they are not patriots, on the contrary, they are more so than others. I've only seen a few Ukrainians have it, not even most. Most just want to be left alone in their own country.

    What I find pretty insulting though is how they pretend that there is no "tribal hatred of Ukrainians" by Russians - yea, right, killing thousands of people on their own soil, just like that, to them is not a sign of hatred. When it is actually the epitome of it. Some Russians openly state "there should be fewer of you".

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    Thanks for trying to possibly help me understand Beckow’s inclinations towards the great North-West. Actually, I’ve experienced a similar phenomenon in my owns life. As a teenager/young adult I would often go camping to the great North Shore of Minnesota that hugs Lake Superior. I would hike through many areas where there were streams and waterfalls, small mountains too (I made it to the top of Eagle Mountain, the highest natural spot in all of Minnesota). Perhaps, the apogee of these trips was when I once traveled into the BWCA (Boundary Waters Canoe Area), a place shared on the borders of the the US and Canada. Well, to this day I often have dreams where I visit these lands in the north country, where some of the imagery is unknown to me (large granite mountains, very big waterfalls, etc.). The dreams are quite vivid and full of adventure. The north country is indeed full of wonders galore.


    Gooseberry Falls Stat Park

  588. @AP
    @Beckow

    A midwit is supposed to be someone intelligent enough to absorb and learn a lot from teachers or the media, but not smart enough to see through any bullshit that they are being fed.

    You are a late Commie-era Czechoslovak midwit.

    Midwits can be fun and useful: for example, I don't need to read history or political tracts published in Soviet-occupied Czechoslovakia. I can learn what the people were taught about their history and their attitudes towards others simply by communicating with you. It's all there: the myths about the Hapsburgs, the myths about atheism, the myths about progress relative to the West, the glaring blindspots about the Underground Church in your own lands. And yes, even the cynicism and dishonesty, very characteristic of late-era Socialism in eastern Europe.

    Now let's respond to your empty words:


    Try to think: an atheist country with a lukewarm attitude toward religion and militant hostility by millions of seculars and leftists towards the Catholic Church – Habsburg’s Catholicism was very unpopular – with plentiful open churches needed an ‘underground church“? Why? Almost all believers were old ladies.
     
    Czechoslovakia was more atheistic than its neighbors got a long time, but was not always an "atheist country."

    This is what the Czech embassy claims:

    https://mzv.gov.cz/ottawa/en/general_information_on_the_czech/religion/index.html

    Presently, 39.8% of Czechs consider themselves atheist; 39.2% are Roman Catholics; 4.6% are Protestant, with 1.9% in the Czech-founded Hussite Reform Church, 1.6% in the Czech Brotherhood Evangelic Church, and 0.5% in the Silesian Evangelic Church; 3% are members of the Orthodox Church; and 13.4% are undecided.

    This Czech researcher claims atheism in Czechia is currently at 78% (this number is probably more accurate, I suspect many of the 39% on the Embassy page are members of the Church who don't actually believe):

    https://philarchive.org/rec/VITTCR-2

    However it was only 56% in 1991.

    So in the 1970s and 1980s around half of Czechs were religious. Given the size of the Underground Catholic Church, it seems that the number of official priests was insufficient. And also, many Catholics did not want priests who compromised with the authorities.

    Furthermore, official priests were limited n the ability to serve people in certain settings - so the Underground ones played this role.

    Also I was discussing Czechoslovakia which includes Czechia and more-devout Slovakia.


    The religious fundamentalists were unpopular
     
    So proclaims the dishonest Beckow.

    The same one who insisted the Underground priests were crazy street preachers, rather than priests ordained by bishops.

    Here is an interview with one of the underground Catholic priests in Czechoslovakia (secretly ordained by a German bishop in 1978), published by University of Notre Dame Press. He is, himself a professor at Charles University in Prague. You will now frantically compare it to the Congo:

    https://undpress.nd.edu/blog/2020/07/01/an-interview-with-tomas-halik-author-of-from-the-underground-church-to-freedom/

    What form did the underground Catholic Church take in Communist Czechoslovakia?

    "It was not a united organization—there were several groups. One part consisted of priests who had been officially ordained but who had lost their government permission to serve as priests. All these official priests were practically in a schizophrenic situation. They were paid by the state, but if they performed their work well—if they had a full church, or the interest of young people—they were punished. Everywhere there were Communist-appointed secretaries for church affairs who controlled everything, especially the priests, and they had the power to take away their permission without any explanation. If a priest had some kind of activity with young people, he was especially likely to be punished. Some were sent to regions near the border, which was practically a religious desert. Or, their permission was taken away completely, and they had to work as a window cleaner or janitor. So they worked in such jobs while continuing to perform some priestly activity in private apartments.

    Another part of the underground Church were priests who had been secretly ordained by bishops who had themselves been secretly ordained. Even prior to the Communist putsch in 1948, Pope Pius XII expected hard persecution of the Church, so he allowed the secret ordination of bishops for this time of persecution. But practically all of these secretly ordained bishops were discovered and arrested by the Communist secret police. Some of them used the last moment before they were taken into prison to ordain another bishop. However, this was without a decision of the Holy See, so things became complicated from the point of view of canon law.

    The third part of the underground Church were priests who were ordained by bishops in other so-called socialist countries, such as Poland and East Germany, to which we were allowed to travel. I was ordained a priest in East Germany in 1978, in the private chapel of the bishop of Erfurt."


    just prove again how deficient ‘merican education and understnding

     

    You have quite adequately demonstrated the deficiency of your education in Slovakia.

    Replies: @Beckow

    You doubled down on your ignorant idiocy. Czecho-slovakia was about 80% agnostic-atheist. Almost all church goers were elderly village-small town women, we all had a few in our families. People answer surveys based on who they are by origin and culturally. I would answer Protestant not ‘atheist’.

    In the early 90’s there was a short burst of people ‘discovering’ their family church affiliations, it didn’t last. Two slightly religious regions are Southern Moravia (not the north) and rural Slovakia (not the cities). Even under the commies they had pilgrimages: a crowd of old ladies with crosses singing while marching up some hill. Nobody suppressed them, it was folklore, it was even shown on TV.

    What you call ‘underground‘ were a few charismatic morons kept on the outs by the official conformist church – the old ladies didn’t want crazies screaming ‘Jesus!”and old Testament genocide stories, they wanted a calm ritual and music.

    The people you quote are political – they were kept from power before 1989 and will be forever bitter. They exaggerate and lie, they are sponsored by the Western religious nuts – Baptists, Mormons, LGBT-church (Halik? do you have any idea who that homo is?), intelligence agencies. Same as the fanatical Moslems were initially supported by West to fight nationalism and socialism.

    But I suspect you are too ideological to understand any of this.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    You doubled down on your ignorant idiocy
     
    You realize you only further discredit yourself (if that is possible).

    Czecho-slovakia was about 80% agnostic-atheist.
     
    That's what I wrote - today.

    In 1991 it was about 56% or so.

    People answer surveys based on who they are by origin and culturally. I would answer Protestant not ‘atheist’.
     
    This is what I already wrote - " members of the Church who don’t actually believe."

    So currently about 39% of Czechs are explicitly atheists (deny belonging to any Church) but about 80% are atheists-agnostic by belief.

    In 1991, 56% were atheists-agnostic by belief.

    What you call ‘underground‘ were a few charismatic morons kept on the outs by the official conformist church
     
    About 25% of the priesthood.

    A midwit calling someone a moron is as typical as it is funny.

    Even under the commies they had pilgrimages: a crowd of old ladies with crosses singing while marching up some hill.
     
    That's a nice lie, which you were taught and naively believe and repeat.

    Here is the reality:

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    Three major events of the 1980s testify to the strength of the underground Church.Footnote53 The first was the 1985 pilgrimage to Velehrad to commemorate the 1100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius, one of the ‘apostles to the Slavs’. About 150 thousand people gathered there, including members of prohibited orders dressed in their habits, booing the Communist speakers, and cheering the Pope’s legate Agostino Casaroli; the Communist plan for a ‘peace festival’ was turned into a truly religious event.Footnote54

    While the Velehrad pilgrimage could have been viewed as a purely religious event, the other two events were more political. The second major event was the 1988 petition for religious freedom. Started by a single Catholic layman, Augustin Navrátil, a peasant, the petition was signed by more than 500 thousand people. The petition also received support from the official Church, particularly the Archbishop of Prague Tomášek; however, most signatures were collected by members of the underground Church.Footnote55

    The third event was the ‘Candle Demonstration’ in Bratislava organized by several laymen from the underground Church in March of 1988. Despite the risks associated with attending such an event, several thousand Slovaks gathered in the city to pray for religious freedom; the participants were attacked by the police with batons and water cannons, and many were arrested. The demonstration was the largest opposition gathering since the late 1960s

    ::::::::::::::::::

    Tell me more about a small group of old ladies being attacked with water cannons, lol.

    And didn't you just claim that old ladies were opposed to the Underground church, responsible for such pilgrimages? Which was it?

    Here is part of Velehrad pilgrimage. Doesn't look like mostly old ladies:

    https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/photo-pilgrimage-to-velehrad-basilica/QgGlinBV-qnKxA?hl=en&ms=%7B%22x%22%3A0.5%2C%22y%22%3A0.5%2C%22z%22%3A9.308830106018448%2C%22size%22%3A%7B%22width%22%3A1.768407358582204%2C%22height%22%3A1.2375%7D%7D

    Hmm, whom to believe - Beckow is is almost always dishonest and repeats Socialist fairytales he was taught, or one's eyes?

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/07/07/More-than-100000-pilgrims-commemorated-an-Eastern-European-patron/5292489556800/

    More than 100,000 pilgrims gathered in Velehrad Sunday to commemorate the 1,100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius, who with his brother, Cyril, brought Christianity to the Slavic people in the 9th century.

    'I feel emotion and sorrow because I could not greet you, bless you and comfort you in person,' the pope told Czechoslovakia's 10 million Roman Catholics in in a message broadcast on Vatican radio.

    Later, during his regular Sunday appearance in St. Peter's Square, John Paul reiterated that he had been denied permission to accept Czech Cardinal Jozef Tomko's invitation to the anniversary ceremonies.

    The only foreign prelate allowed to attend was Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Agostino Casaroli, who delivered the Golden Rose to the city in the pope's name.

    The event, officially termed a 'folk festival,' opened with a rendition of the Czechoslovak national anthem.

    The Czechoslovak minister of culture, Milan Klusak, then made a speech emphasizing the cultural significance of Methodius and Cyril, but was interrupted by chanting from the crowd, calling out, 'the holy one, the holy one,' witnesses said.

    The crowd chanted the names of the pope, Casaroli and Prague Archbishop Cardinal Frantisek Tomasek.


    :::::::::::::::

    The true nature of your Socialist education in Czechoslovakia is that even a foreigner has to teach you about the reality in your own country, so lost you are in the nonsensical teaching that was forced into your mind and that you dutifully absorbed like a sponge.

    Replies: @Beckow

  589. @LatW
    @Beckow


    The second front! enthusiasts like LatW are pensive, they sense the end is near.
     
    The "end" of what exactly?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow

    …The “end” of what exactly?

    The end of the Western plan to turn Ukraine into an anti-Russia Ukie-nationalist country with Nato bases. That was the plan and it failed. 100k’s Ukies died for it and millions permanently left Ukraine.

    Now in the clean-up phase the goal is to make it as bloody as possible so Russia pays for its victory. What was it good for? How did Ukrainians benefit? Unless they just wanted to emigrate and the Nato-plan made it much easier. And steal as much as they can from the Western aid in the process. And MIC…

  590. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    You doubled down on your ignorant idiocy. Czecho-slovakia was about 80% agnostic-atheist. Almost all church goers were elderly village-small town women, we all had a few in our families. People answer surveys based on who they are by origin and culturally. I would answer Protestant not 'atheist'.

    In the early 90's there was a short burst of people 'discovering' their family church affiliations, it didn't last. Two slightly religious regions are Southern Moravia (not the north) and rural Slovakia (not the cities). Even under the commies they had pilgrimages: a crowd of old ladies with crosses singing while marching up some hill. Nobody suppressed them, it was folklore, it was even shown on TV.

    What you call 'underground' were a few charismatic morons kept on the outs by the official conformist church - the old ladies didn't want crazies screaming 'Jesus!"and old Testament genocide stories, they wanted a calm ritual and music.

    The people you quote are political - they were kept from power before 1989 and will be forever bitter. They exaggerate and lie, they are sponsored by the Western religious nuts - Baptists, Mormons, LGBT-church (Halik? do you have any idea who that homo is?), intelligence agencies. Same as the fanatical Moslems were initially supported by West to fight nationalism and socialism.

    But I suspect you are too ideological to understand any of this.

    Replies: @AP

    You doubled down on your ignorant idiocy

    You realize you only further discredit yourself (if that is possible).

    Czecho-slovakia was about 80% agnostic-atheist.

    That’s what I wrote – today.

    In 1991 it was about 56% or so.

    People answer surveys based on who they are by origin and culturally. I would answer Protestant not ‘atheist’.

    This is what I already wrote – ” members of the Church who don’t actually believe.”

    So currently about 39% of Czechs are explicitly atheists (deny belonging to any Church) but about 80% are atheists-agnostic by belief.

    In 1991, 56% were atheists-agnostic by belief.

    What you call ‘underground‘ were a few charismatic morons kept on the outs by the official conformist church

    About 25% of the priesthood.

    A midwit calling someone a moron is as typical as it is funny.

    Even under the commies they had pilgrimages: a crowd of old ladies with crosses singing while marching up some hill.

    That’s a nice lie, which you were taught and naively believe and repeat.

    Here is the reality:

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    Three major events of the 1980s testify to the strength of the underground Church.Footnote53 The first was the 1985 pilgrimage to Velehrad to commemorate the 1100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius, one of the ‘apostles to the Slavs’. About 150 thousand people gathered there, including members of prohibited orders dressed in their habits, booing the Communist speakers, and cheering the Pope’s legate Agostino Casaroli; the Communist plan for a ‘peace festival’ was turned into a truly religious event.Footnote54

    While the Velehrad pilgrimage could have been viewed as a purely religious event, the other two events were more political. The second major event was the 1988 petition for religious freedom. Started by a single Catholic layman, Augustin Navrátil, a peasant, the petition was signed by more than 500 thousand people. The petition also received support from the official Church, particularly the Archbishop of Prague Tomášek; however, most signatures were collected by members of the underground Church.Footnote55

    The third event was the ‘Candle Demonstration’ in Bratislava organized by several laymen from the underground Church in March of 1988. Despite the risks associated with attending such an event, several thousand Slovaks gathered in the city to pray for religious freedom; the participants were attacked by the police with batons and water cannons, and many were arrested. The demonstration was the largest opposition gathering since the late 1960s

    ::::::::::::::::::

    Tell me more about a small group of old ladies being attacked with water cannons, lol.

    And didn’t you just claim that old ladies were opposed to the Underground church, responsible for such pilgrimages? Which was it?

    Here is part of Velehrad pilgrimage. Doesn’t look like mostly old ladies:

    https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/photo-pilgrimage-to-velehrad-basilica/QgGlinBV-qnKxA?hl=en&ms=%7B%22x%22%3A0.5%2C%22y%22%3A0.5%2C%22z%22%3A9.308830106018448%2C%22size%22%3A%7B%22width%22%3A1.768407358582204%2C%22height%22%3A1.2375%7D%7D

    Hmm, whom to believe – Beckow is is almost always dishonest and repeats Socialist fairytales he was taught, or one’s eyes?

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/07/07/More-than-100000-pilgrims-commemorated-an-Eastern-European-patron/5292489556800/

    More than 100,000 pilgrims gathered in Velehrad Sunday to commemorate the 1,100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius, who with his brother, Cyril, brought Christianity to the Slavic people in the 9th century.

    ‘I feel emotion and sorrow because I could not greet you, bless you and comfort you in person,’ the pope told Czechoslovakia’s 10 million Roman Catholics in in a message broadcast on Vatican radio.

    Later, during his regular Sunday appearance in St. Peter’s Square, John Paul reiterated that he had been denied permission to accept Czech Cardinal Jozef Tomko’s invitation to the anniversary ceremonies.

    The only foreign prelate allowed to attend was Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Agostino Casaroli, who delivered the Golden Rose to the city in the pope’s name.

    The event, officially termed a ‘folk festival,’ opened with a rendition of the Czechoslovak national anthem.

    The Czechoslovak minister of culture, Milan Klusak, then made a speech emphasizing the cultural significance of Methodius and Cyril, but was interrupted by chanting from the crowd, calling out, ‘the holy one, the holy one,’ witnesses said.

    The crowd chanted the names of the pope, Casaroli and Prague Archbishop Cardinal Frantisek Tomasek.

    :::::::::::::::

    The true nature of your Socialist education in Czechoslovakia is that even a foreigner has to teach you about the reality in your own country, so lost you are in the nonsensical teaching that was forced into your mind and that you dutifully absorbed like a sponge.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...In 1991 it was about 56% or so.
     
    No it wasn't, it has been 70-80% agnostic-atheist for generations. I explained to you that for a few years after 1989 people in surveys identified more with their Christian heritage. They still didn't go to church or were religious - a short phase like at the same time sudden popularity of heavy metal. By 1995 it was back to the irreligious nature and nobody listened to heavy metal. You know nothing - you read snippets of politicized Western propaganda and regurgitate it like an-all-American idiot. Remember that song? That's you.

    More than 100,000 pilgrims gathered in Velehrad Sunday to commemorate the 1,100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius
     
    It was a normal national celebration with government and culture figures carried live on TV. Nothing "underground" about it, people with kids having fun. Why are you blabbing about a few "pilgrims" who shouted "save us"? Nobody bothered them, some were drunk...you are totally off, pathetic.

    The '88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates - for all I know, the Westie 'journos' counted us as demonstrators - 50% of people were there for fun. A few dozens buses showed up with village catholics, some came from Austria 30 minutes away, a lot of Germans there. Everyone had a burning candle and they blocked the streetcar traffic. They were singing and arguing with the police - the minister of culture sat on a balcony in a hotel above (favorite drinking spot) and finally called the fire department to spray them with water to clear the streets. They had umbrellas!!! That was the funniest thing how they came prepared. Nobody was arrested, they were pushedd out of the main city square. Some got wet. Compared to what the West does to its demostrators it was extremely mild, even pleasant.

    Another thing: it was organized by Jan Carnogursky, catholic lawyer and a believer. His dad was the head of the WW2 fascist-clerical Slovak Parliament. In spite of it Jan studied with no problems under the commies and so did his 4 sons (one was in my school). Havel's brother Ivan was a Professor at Charles University. Your belief that the anti-commies or their family members couldn't go to university is nonsense. It was more meritocratic than the Ivies are today - if you were smart you were accepted based on testing.

    Replies: @AP

  591. This article interestingly claims that chemical pollutants introduced since 1970 – including some apparently created by catalytic converters has led to an explosion of ezcema cases.

    https://www.livescience.com/health/how-common-chemicals-including-those-in-bed-sheets-can-boost-eczema-risk

    Parkinson’s is thought to mainly be triggered by exposure to environmental toxins.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    Parkinson’s is thought to mainly be triggered by exposure to environmental toxins.
     
    Most Parkinson’s cases are called “sporadic”, which in plain English means that there are no known genetic reasons. However, 10-15% of Parkinson’t is associated with mutations in certain genes. However, most of these mutations do not doom a person to have Parkinson’s, heritability of the disease in carriers is estimated at ~30%. So, even in case of mutation carriers, whether you get the disease or not is largely dependent on environmental factors.

    Replies: @songbird

  592. @songbird
    This article interestingly claims that chemical pollutants introduced since 1970 - including some apparently created by catalytic converters has led to an explosion of ezcema cases.

    https://www.livescience.com/health/how-common-chemicals-including-those-in-bed-sheets-can-boost-eczema-risk

    Parkinson's is thought to mainly be triggered by exposure to environmental toxins.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Parkinson’s is thought to mainly be triggered by exposure to environmental toxins.

    Most Parkinson’s cases are called “sporadic”, which in plain English means that there are no known genetic reasons. However, 10-15% of Parkinson’t is associated with mutations in certain genes. However, most of these mutations do not doom a person to have Parkinson’s, heritability of the disease in carriers is estimated at ~30%. So, even in case of mutation carriers, whether you get the disease or not is largely dependent on environmental factors.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AnonfromTN

    IIRC, there is also something about a pattern in the way it starts in the brain. It develops near to the nose.

    My gut would be to blame some unknown infectious agent, as being a trigger, rather than a chemical. But who knows for sure.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  593. @AP
    @Beckow


    You doubled down on your ignorant idiocy
     
    You realize you only further discredit yourself (if that is possible).

    Czecho-slovakia was about 80% agnostic-atheist.
     
    That's what I wrote - today.

    In 1991 it was about 56% or so.

    People answer surveys based on who they are by origin and culturally. I would answer Protestant not ‘atheist’.
     
    This is what I already wrote - " members of the Church who don’t actually believe."

    So currently about 39% of Czechs are explicitly atheists (deny belonging to any Church) but about 80% are atheists-agnostic by belief.

    In 1991, 56% were atheists-agnostic by belief.

    What you call ‘underground‘ were a few charismatic morons kept on the outs by the official conformist church
     
    About 25% of the priesthood.

    A midwit calling someone a moron is as typical as it is funny.

    Even under the commies they had pilgrimages: a crowd of old ladies with crosses singing while marching up some hill.
     
    That's a nice lie, which you were taught and naively believe and repeat.

    Here is the reality:

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21567689.2023.2279161

    Three major events of the 1980s testify to the strength of the underground Church.Footnote53 The first was the 1985 pilgrimage to Velehrad to commemorate the 1100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius, one of the ‘apostles to the Slavs’. About 150 thousand people gathered there, including members of prohibited orders dressed in their habits, booing the Communist speakers, and cheering the Pope’s legate Agostino Casaroli; the Communist plan for a ‘peace festival’ was turned into a truly religious event.Footnote54

    While the Velehrad pilgrimage could have been viewed as a purely religious event, the other two events were more political. The second major event was the 1988 petition for religious freedom. Started by a single Catholic layman, Augustin Navrátil, a peasant, the petition was signed by more than 500 thousand people. The petition also received support from the official Church, particularly the Archbishop of Prague Tomášek; however, most signatures were collected by members of the underground Church.Footnote55

    The third event was the ‘Candle Demonstration’ in Bratislava organized by several laymen from the underground Church in March of 1988. Despite the risks associated with attending such an event, several thousand Slovaks gathered in the city to pray for religious freedom; the participants were attacked by the police with batons and water cannons, and many were arrested. The demonstration was the largest opposition gathering since the late 1960s

    ::::::::::::::::::

    Tell me more about a small group of old ladies being attacked with water cannons, lol.

    And didn't you just claim that old ladies were opposed to the Underground church, responsible for such pilgrimages? Which was it?

    Here is part of Velehrad pilgrimage. Doesn't look like mostly old ladies:

    https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/photo-pilgrimage-to-velehrad-basilica/QgGlinBV-qnKxA?hl=en&ms=%7B%22x%22%3A0.5%2C%22y%22%3A0.5%2C%22z%22%3A9.308830106018448%2C%22size%22%3A%7B%22width%22%3A1.768407358582204%2C%22height%22%3A1.2375%7D%7D

    Hmm, whom to believe - Beckow is is almost always dishonest and repeats Socialist fairytales he was taught, or one's eyes?

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/07/07/More-than-100000-pilgrims-commemorated-an-Eastern-European-patron/5292489556800/

    More than 100,000 pilgrims gathered in Velehrad Sunday to commemorate the 1,100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius, who with his brother, Cyril, brought Christianity to the Slavic people in the 9th century.

    'I feel emotion and sorrow because I could not greet you, bless you and comfort you in person,' the pope told Czechoslovakia's 10 million Roman Catholics in in a message broadcast on Vatican radio.

    Later, during his regular Sunday appearance in St. Peter's Square, John Paul reiterated that he had been denied permission to accept Czech Cardinal Jozef Tomko's invitation to the anniversary ceremonies.

    The only foreign prelate allowed to attend was Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Agostino Casaroli, who delivered the Golden Rose to the city in the pope's name.

    The event, officially termed a 'folk festival,' opened with a rendition of the Czechoslovak national anthem.

    The Czechoslovak minister of culture, Milan Klusak, then made a speech emphasizing the cultural significance of Methodius and Cyril, but was interrupted by chanting from the crowd, calling out, 'the holy one, the holy one,' witnesses said.

    The crowd chanted the names of the pope, Casaroli and Prague Archbishop Cardinal Frantisek Tomasek.


    :::::::::::::::

    The true nature of your Socialist education in Czechoslovakia is that even a foreigner has to teach you about the reality in your own country, so lost you are in the nonsensical teaching that was forced into your mind and that you dutifully absorbed like a sponge.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …In 1991 it was about 56% or so.

    No it wasn’t, it has been 70-80% agnostic-atheist for generations. I explained to you that for a few years after 1989 people in surveys identified more with their Christian heritage. They still didn’t go to church or were religious – a short phase like at the same time sudden popularity of heavy metal. By 1995 it was back to the irreligious nature and nobody listened to heavy metal. You know nothing – you read snippets of politicized Western propaganda and regurgitate it like an-all-American idiot. Remember that song? That’s you.

    More than 100,000 pilgrims gathered in Velehrad Sunday to commemorate the 1,100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius

    It was a normal national celebration with government and culture figures carried live on TV. Nothing “underground” about it, people with kids having fun. Why are you blabbing about a few “pilgrims” who shouted “save us”? Nobody bothered them, some were drunk…you are totally off, pathetic.

    The ’88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates – for all I know, the Westie ‘journos’ counted us as demonstrators – 50% of people were there for fun. A few dozens buses showed up with village catholics, some came from Austria 30 minutes away, a lot of Germans there. Everyone had a burning candle and they blocked the streetcar traffic. They were singing and arguing with the police – the minister of culture sat on a balcony in a hotel above (favorite drinking spot) and finally called the fire department to spray them with water to clear the streets. They had umbrellas!!! That was the funniest thing how they came prepared. Nobody was arrested, they were pushedd out of the main city square. Some got wet. Compared to what the West does to its demostrators it was extremely mild, even pleasant.

    Another thing: it was organized by Jan Carnogursky, catholic lawyer and a believer. His dad was the head of the WW2 fascist-clerical Slovak Parliament. In spite of it Jan studied with no problems under the commies and so did his 4 sons (one was in my school). Havel’s brother Ivan was a Professor at Charles University. Your belief that the anti-commies or their family members couldn’t go to university is nonsense. It was more meritocratic than the Ivies are today – if you were smart you were accepted based on testing.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    …In 1991 it was about 56% or so.

    No it wasn’t, it has been 70-80% agnostic-atheist for generations.
     

    Your words, and we know what they are worth.

    https://digitalcommons.georgefox.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2415&context=ree

    In 1950 it was 6%.

    In 1930 it was 8%.


    The ’88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates – for all I know, the Westie ‘journos’ counted us as demonstrators – 50% of people were there for fun.
     
    First you insisted it was only some old ladies demonstrating. And now you claim you went there with your friends. Were you lying then, or lying now?

    Your story keeps changing.

    Let's compare what Beckow (who can't keep his stories straight) says, versus reality:

    Beckow:


    The ’88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates – for all I know, the Westie ‘journos’ counted us as demonstrators – 50% of people were there for fun. A few dozens buses showed up with village catholics, some came from Austria 30 minutes away, a lot of Germans there. Everyone had a burning candle and they blocked the streetcar traffic. They were singing and arguing with the police – the minister of culture sat on a balcony in a hotel above (favorite drinking spot) and finally called the fire department to spray them with water to clear the streets. They had umbrellas!!! That was the funniest thing how they came prepared. Nobody was arrested, they were pushedd out of the main city square. Some got wet. Compared to what the West does to its demostrators it was extremely mild, even pleasant.
     
    Britannica:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Candle-Demonstration

    During this so-called “Candle Demonstration” in Bratislava, thousands of Slovaks quietly held burning candles to show their support for religious freedom and human rights. Police dispersed the demonstration with water cannons and made numerous arrests.

    So do we believe random internet myth-saying Beckow, or Britannica?

    What does the Slovak government say?

    https://mzv.sk/en/web/en/slovakia/history/the-candle-demonstration-reminds-slovaks-of-the-power-of-the-people

    The Candle Demonstration on the eve of March 25, 1988 marked the beginning of the end of the Communist regime. It was one of the most significant manifestation of civil resistance in former Czechoslovakia.

    The thousands of people gathered in the centre of the Slovak capital 35 years ago displayed their anger and dissatisfaction peacefully and quietly. The only weapon they wielded in their hands were candles. When lit, the candles unveiled the true scope of the protest. The blinking flames flooded the vast square and adjacent streets as well.

    From the very beginning, the regime tried everything it could to suppress the protest. Organisers had even been detained in advance. Nevertheless, neither the Communist Party nor the police managed to dissuade people from participation in the unauthorised protest. In the end, the police had to employ brutal force against the protesters, including batons, water cannons, even running over people with police cars. All the while the leading communist and police officials observed the demonstration from the comfort of the nearby Carlton Hotel.

    The authoritarian regime reared its ugly head to the world.

    Many were hurt. The police and agents spared neither old people nor young girls. They detained more than 100 people, among them accredited foreign journalists.
     

    :::::::::::::::::

    So do we believe Beckow, or the Slovak government?

    In Beckow we have the classic socialist way of arguing: lie about something, then compare to the West, saying the West is even worse anyways.

    BTW it looks like they may have brought umbrellas because it was raining?

    https://kafkadesk.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/fopufcpxoam8-mc.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow

  594. @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    Parkinson’s is thought to mainly be triggered by exposure to environmental toxins.
     
    Most Parkinson’s cases are called “sporadic”, which in plain English means that there are no known genetic reasons. However, 10-15% of Parkinson’t is associated with mutations in certain genes. However, most of these mutations do not doom a person to have Parkinson’s, heritability of the disease in carriers is estimated at ~30%. So, even in case of mutation carriers, whether you get the disease or not is largely dependent on environmental factors.

    Replies: @songbird

    IIRC, there is also something about a pattern in the way it starts in the brain. It develops near to the nose.

    My gut would be to blame some unknown infectious agent, as being a trigger, rather than a chemical. But who knows for sure.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    IIRC, there is also something about a pattern in the way it starts in the brain. It develops near to the nose.
     
    Infection is a possible trigger, as well as toxic substances. We don’t know for sure. As I tell my students, if we knew everything, we’d have no jobs.

    The root cause of Parkinson’s is degeneration of dopamine-producing neurons in a small brain region substantia nigra (it is called nigra because its cells have black pigment, melanin, in humans, but not in most mammals). Nigra is not very close to the nose, it’s near the brainstem in the middle of the brain. Because of this degeneration dopamine is not supplied to another brain region, striatum, which controls movements. Hence inability to move (akinesia in medical lingo). In fact, symptoms appear when >90% of nigra neurons are already dead: we have significant spare capacity. Parkinson’s is treated by dopamine precursor L-DOPA, which other neurons (e.g., those that produce serotonin) can convert into dopamine (due to similarity of enzymes) and deliver to the striatum. This works for several years, after which starts what doctors call dyskinesia: aimless involuntary movements (AIMs) involving various muscles. Depending on which muscles are involved AIMs are separated into four categories. Dyskinesia (which is currently untreatable) is no better than Parkinson’s itself.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

  595. @songbird
    @AnonfromTN

    IIRC, there is also something about a pattern in the way it starts in the brain. It develops near to the nose.

    My gut would be to blame some unknown infectious agent, as being a trigger, rather than a chemical. But who knows for sure.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    IIRC, there is also something about a pattern in the way it starts in the brain. It develops near to the nose.

    Infection is a possible trigger, as well as toxic substances. We don’t know for sure. As I tell my students, if we knew everything, we’d have no jobs.

    The root cause of Parkinson’s is degeneration of dopamine-producing neurons in a small brain region substantia nigra (it is called nigra because its cells have black pigment, melanin, in humans, but not in most mammals). Nigra is not very close to the nose, it’s near the brainstem in the middle of the brain. Because of this degeneration dopamine is not supplied to another brain region, striatum, which controls movements. Hence inability to move (akinesia in medical lingo). In fact, symptoms appear when >90% of nigra neurons are already dead: we have significant spare capacity. Parkinson’s is treated by dopamine precursor L-DOPA, which other neurons (e.g., those that produce serotonin) can convert into dopamine (due to similarity of enzymes) and deliver to the striatum. This works for several years, after which starts what doctors call dyskinesia: aimless involuntary movements (AIMs) involving various muscles. Depending on which muscles are involved AIMs are separated into four categories. Dyskinesia (which is currently untreatable) is no better than Parkinson’s itself.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    AnonfromTN wrote:


    If we knew everything, we’d have no jobs.
     
    My closely related version:

    If this were easy, they wouldn't pay us!
     
    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    There is a doctor who sounds like a charlatan who does podcasts and lives in El Salvador and is berserk about getting sunlight exposure who goes on and on and on about melanin. Jack Something. He is one of those fellows who dropped 150 pounds at age 45 and believes he possesses the panacea of perpetual youth.

    I thought Dmitry had a good point that longevity serves no evolutionary purpose and anybody who gets it is going to be a random accident. Others have said the same thing for a long time but I don't think many people are eager to listen to them.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @songbird
    @AnonfromTN


    Nigra is not very close to the nose
     
    ,
    What I meant is that the olfactory center seems to be affected first in a lot of people. Diminished sense of smell is an early warning sign in many individuals which presents before other symptoms, sometimes as much a s a decade before. Patients have diminished volume in the olfactory bulb.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10581567/

    Replies: @songbird, @sudden death

  596. @Beckow
    @Derer

    It is heading to $34 trillion, foreign countries hold 25%, China less than 4%. That is not good, it would actually be better if the debt was held abroad because it would be possible to devalue or 'sanction' it.

    75% of US debt is held by US institutions. Debt is a claim on the same asset by two parties: both can consume based on it. It pumps up the economy and in beneficial in smaller ratios. Today the US GNP would be 30 to 50% smaller without Fed debt.

    US debt will soon be twice the GNP, the numbers will not work - simply math. Any spending cuts would have to be so drastic -15 to 20% including pensions - that the US economy would halt.

    The enemies (BRICS) are circling around. They know the dollar is a house of cards and time is on their side. The dumbest thing for Washington was to go for more wars, provoking the un-winnable Ukie war, maximalist Izrael, messing with China - Taiwan is an internationally recognized part of China - if Crimea is "wrong", why is fighting with China to separate Taiwan ok?

    Maybe a huge inflation would help - devalue everything by 50-100% to get the numbers stabilized. Wars are great for justifying inflation. How is the West going to explain lower living standards to its people? Maybe they will finally call off the 'democracy-election' show and just do it. They don'y have many good choices. Turning China-Russia into a united enemy was a fatal self-inflicted error.

    Replies: @Derer

    Thanks for correcting me. I guess my rhetoric in this case is not backed by reality. However, I was more thinking about the Chinese influence in holding approximately 40% of US$ foreign reserves.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Derer


    ...the Chinese influence in holding approximately 40% of US$ foreign reserves.
     
    Yes, China holds a huge amount of US$ foreign reserves. They keep on accumulating them with the trade surplus. It is risky, any $ account or transaction has to clear through NY Fed Reserve. US can block it.

    It is not sustainable after freezing of Russia's reserves. Yelen and Blinken keep on flying to Beijing to beg (and threaten) China to keep the $ reserves. China is not stupid and simply won't do it, but they do things gradually.

    There are no good alternatives but the dollar-system has been severely wounded. One possibility is a new global agreement with new rules - that means US would no longer dominate, it would be a multi-polar system. But more likely since the West is very stupid about it we will get a few decades of fragmentation, a much smaller "dollar" world side by side Brics and others. Everyone will lose but US and Euros by far the most. And how stupid they were - and still are...hubris and lying to yourself have a steep price.

  597. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    ...In 1991 it was about 56% or so.
     
    No it wasn't, it has been 70-80% agnostic-atheist for generations. I explained to you that for a few years after 1989 people in surveys identified more with their Christian heritage. They still didn't go to church or were religious - a short phase like at the same time sudden popularity of heavy metal. By 1995 it was back to the irreligious nature and nobody listened to heavy metal. You know nothing - you read snippets of politicized Western propaganda and regurgitate it like an-all-American idiot. Remember that song? That's you.

    More than 100,000 pilgrims gathered in Velehrad Sunday to commemorate the 1,100th anniversary of the death of St. Methodius
     
    It was a normal national celebration with government and culture figures carried live on TV. Nothing "underground" about it, people with kids having fun. Why are you blabbing about a few "pilgrims" who shouted "save us"? Nobody bothered them, some were drunk...you are totally off, pathetic.

    The '88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates - for all I know, the Westie 'journos' counted us as demonstrators - 50% of people were there for fun. A few dozens buses showed up with village catholics, some came from Austria 30 minutes away, a lot of Germans there. Everyone had a burning candle and they blocked the streetcar traffic. They were singing and arguing with the police - the minister of culture sat on a balcony in a hotel above (favorite drinking spot) and finally called the fire department to spray them with water to clear the streets. They had umbrellas!!! That was the funniest thing how they came prepared. Nobody was arrested, they were pushedd out of the main city square. Some got wet. Compared to what the West does to its demostrators it was extremely mild, even pleasant.

    Another thing: it was organized by Jan Carnogursky, catholic lawyer and a believer. His dad was the head of the WW2 fascist-clerical Slovak Parliament. In spite of it Jan studied with no problems under the commies and so did his 4 sons (one was in my school). Havel's brother Ivan was a Professor at Charles University. Your belief that the anti-commies or their family members couldn't go to university is nonsense. It was more meritocratic than the Ivies are today - if you were smart you were accepted based on testing.

    Replies: @AP

    …In 1991 it was about 56% or so.

    No it wasn’t, it has been 70-80% agnostic-atheist for generations.

    Your words, and we know what they are worth.

    https://digitalcommons.georgefox.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2415&context=ree

    In 1950 it was 6%.

    In 1930 it was 8%.

    The ’88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates – for all I know, the Westie ‘journos’ counted us as demonstrators – 50% of people were there for fun.

    First you insisted it was only some old ladies demonstrating. And now you claim you went there with your friends. Were you lying then, or lying now?

    Your story keeps changing.

    Let’s compare what Beckow (who can’t keep his stories straight) says, versus reality:

    Beckow:

    The ’88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates – for all I know, the Westie ‘journos’ counted us as demonstrators – 50% of people were there for fun. A few dozens buses showed up with village catholics, some came from Austria 30 minutes away, a lot of Germans there. Everyone had a burning candle and they blocked the streetcar traffic. They were singing and arguing with the police – the minister of culture sat on a balcony in a hotel above (favorite drinking spot) and finally called the fire department to spray them with water to clear the streets. They had umbrellas!!! That was the funniest thing how they came prepared. Nobody was arrested, they were pushedd out of the main city square. Some got wet. Compared to what the West does to its demostrators it was extremely mild, even pleasant.

    Britannica:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Candle-Demonstration

    During this so-called “Candle Demonstration” in Bratislava, thousands of Slovaks quietly held burning candles to show their support for religious freedom and human rights. Police dispersed the demonstration with water cannons and made numerous arrests.

    So do we believe random internet myth-saying Beckow, or Britannica?

    What does the Slovak government say?

    https://mzv.sk/en/web/en/slovakia/history/the-candle-demonstration-reminds-slovaks-of-the-power-of-the-people

    The Candle Demonstration on the eve of March 25, 1988 marked the beginning of the end of the Communist regime. It was one of the most significant manifestation of civil resistance in former Czechoslovakia.

    The thousands of people gathered in the centre of the Slovak capital 35 years ago displayed their anger and dissatisfaction peacefully and quietly. The only weapon they wielded in their hands were candles. When lit, the candles unveiled the true scope of the protest. The blinking flames flooded the vast square and adjacent streets as well.

    From the very beginning, the regime tried everything it could to suppress the protest. Organisers had even been detained in advance. Nevertheless, neither the Communist Party nor the police managed to dissuade people from participation in the unauthorised protest. In the end, the police had to employ brutal force against the protesters, including batons, water cannons, even running over people with police cars. All the while the leading communist and police officials observed the demonstration from the comfort of the nearby Carlton Hotel.

    The authoritarian regime reared its ugly head to the world.

    Many were hurt. The police and agents spared neither old people nor young girls. They detained more than 100 people, among them accredited foreign journalists.

    :::::::::::::::::

    So do we believe Beckow, or the Slovak government?

    In Beckow we have the classic socialist way of arguing: lie about something, then compare to the West, saying the West is even worse anyways.

    BTW it looks like they may have brought umbrellas because it was raining?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    There were maybe a thousand people there in a city of half a million. You can see that the pictures - if that crowd is more than 500 people, I am the Pope. That is by the way the National Theatre with a nice fountain in the front. In Washington they arrest them as vandals and sentenced to years in jail.

    They came on buses from villages - yes, it was allowed, there was no "totalitarian' control. The Austrians joined them. There were more people watching it than participating, the agitated catholics can be fun - candles, singing, the pathos...

    Your "quotes" don't say anything. They are just in typical propaganda using a few big words and alluding to bad stuff: "brutal", "many where hurt" (now many, what counts as hurt?), "even running over people" - that definitely didn't happen. It was retroactively mytholigized for political reasons. It was not an "underground church" - it was a very small demo by maybe a thousand villagers with candles that was "suppressed" by turning on them a water hose. And what do you mean by "detained"? There was nobody actually arrested, what does "detained" mean? And what foreign journos were detained?

    Replies: @AP

  598. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @S1


    I suppose I’m a bit more into the idea of fairness, a real fairness, rather than ‘equality’
     
    Equality means equal opportunity, not equal outcome (this in the lingo of woke BS is “equity”). Men and women are different in many things in addition to reproductive roles. Most men have more testosterone, which is a natural anabolic. That determines greater muscle mass in men. This also makes it unfair for males (with high natural testosterone) to compete in women’s sports: this is worse than doping.

    High testosterone/estrogen ratio likely also makes males more arrogant and aggressive, whereas the opposite ratio makes females more level-headed. This difference manifests itself in everything. E.g., I taught for 15+ years to our graduate students a course that is in many ways a test of intelligence. I consistently found that among the top three performers on the final test (in a class of 60-70, so this is statistically significant) there were two females and one male. From my POV this does not mean that females are smarter, it just means that males are more arrogant: it takes greater intelligence for females to decide to go to grad school. Male aggressiveness and arrogance are biologically advantageous, both are needed for the defense of the territory and progeny.

    In my experience both human males and females greatly vary in intelligence, from very dumb all the way to remarkably bright. I have no data on averages (e.g., among grad school students female average is higher, but that’s the result of self-selection), but the highest levels of male and female intelligence are about the same. That’s why I believe that women should have the same opportunities as men. Naturally, the outcomes are widely different among both sexes.

    Human females tend to be more patient: a biologically advantageous trait for mothers. That’s why watch-assembly in all countries is done almost exclusively by females.

    Males and females of all mammals, including humans, have numerous psychological differences selected by evolution for reproductive success of the species. Our survival, both as a biological species and as intelligent beings, depends on both sexes and requires the sum total of qualities of men and women.

    Repeat, by “equality” I mean exclusively equal opportunity.

    Replies: @AP

    An excellent comment, overall. Ukraine is your blind spot.

    One minor correction:

    In my experience both human males and females greatly vary in intelligence, from very dumb all the way to remarkably bright. I have no data on averages (e.g., among grad school students female average is higher, but that’s the result of self-selection), but the highest levels of male and female intelligence are about the same.

    As in other physical attributes, female variation is smaller than in men. For example, women vary less from the average female height then men do from the average male height (there are more extremely tall and extremely short men then there are women).

    It is similar for intelligence (except the average is the same, while in height of course men are on average taller than women): the male and female average intelligence is about the same, but men are more likely to be found at the extreme bottom and at the extreme top. I don’t recall the exact difference in variability, it isn’t extreme – there are plenty of brilliant women, too.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    An excellent comment, overall.
     
    Thanks!

    female variation is smaller than in men
     
    Makes biological sense. Evolution usually experiments on males first, because they are less important for the survival of the species. Reproduction rate is determined by the number of females, very few males would be sufficient (think cattle: one bull was enough for hundreds of cows even before artificial insemination).

    Ukraine is your blind spot.
     
    Ukraine happens to be the country I really know well. I was born there, lived there for ~18 years, visited my parents there many times after that, fluently speak the language, read most of Ukrainian literature, etc. E.g., I wouldn’t pontificate about Malaysia, Peru, or Kenya just because I visited those countries.

    there are plenty of brilliant women
     
    I am partial to smart women since my teens. Besides, my two best grad students were very smart and hard-working girls, one from the US, the other from China, my best technician was a girl from Cameroon, etc.

    Replies: @AP, @Another Polish Perspective

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    So, if a very close female relative of mine is extraordinarily intelligent (36 out of 36 on the ACT, 1590 out of 1600 on the SAT), then that means that her parents had an even bigger extraordinary stroke of luck with her than they would have had with a male child of the same intelligence, right?

  599. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    1. the comments on mapporn are worth a look

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1ceqwp7/newborn_circumcision_rates_by_state_2022/

    2. Richard Hanania is the same stupid cunt who claims that the corona virus medicine invention, production, and distribution is the greatest human achievement of the 21st century.

    Replies: @QCIC

    So green shows the areas which in 20 years will be “no habla ingles”. [Meaning the majority of births are hispanic, which we already knew.]

  600. @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    IIRC, there is also something about a pattern in the way it starts in the brain. It develops near to the nose.
     
    Infection is a possible trigger, as well as toxic substances. We don’t know for sure. As I tell my students, if we knew everything, we’d have no jobs.

    The root cause of Parkinson’s is degeneration of dopamine-producing neurons in a small brain region substantia nigra (it is called nigra because its cells have black pigment, melanin, in humans, but not in most mammals). Nigra is not very close to the nose, it’s near the brainstem in the middle of the brain. Because of this degeneration dopamine is not supplied to another brain region, striatum, which controls movements. Hence inability to move (akinesia in medical lingo). In fact, symptoms appear when >90% of nigra neurons are already dead: we have significant spare capacity. Parkinson’s is treated by dopamine precursor L-DOPA, which other neurons (e.g., those that produce serotonin) can convert into dopamine (due to similarity of enzymes) and deliver to the striatum. This works for several years, after which starts what doctors call dyskinesia: aimless involuntary movements (AIMs) involving various muscles. Depending on which muscles are involved AIMs are separated into four categories. Dyskinesia (which is currently untreatable) is no better than Parkinson’s itself.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    AnonfromTN wrote:

    If we knew everything, we’d have no jobs.

    My closely related version:

    If this were easy, they wouldn’t pay us!

  601. @AP
    @Beckow


    …In 1991 it was about 56% or so.

    No it wasn’t, it has been 70-80% agnostic-atheist for generations.
     

    Your words, and we know what they are worth.

    https://digitalcommons.georgefox.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2415&context=ree

    In 1950 it was 6%.

    In 1930 it was 8%.


    The ’88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates – for all I know, the Westie ‘journos’ counted us as demonstrators – 50% of people were there for fun.
     
    First you insisted it was only some old ladies demonstrating. And now you claim you went there with your friends. Were you lying then, or lying now?

    Your story keeps changing.

    Let's compare what Beckow (who can't keep his stories straight) says, versus reality:

    Beckow:


    The ’88 candle demo was real. I went there with my classmates – for all I know, the Westie ‘journos’ counted us as demonstrators – 50% of people were there for fun. A few dozens buses showed up with village catholics, some came from Austria 30 minutes away, a lot of Germans there. Everyone had a burning candle and they blocked the streetcar traffic. They were singing and arguing with the police – the minister of culture sat on a balcony in a hotel above (favorite drinking spot) and finally called the fire department to spray them with water to clear the streets. They had umbrellas!!! That was the funniest thing how they came prepared. Nobody was arrested, they were pushedd out of the main city square. Some got wet. Compared to what the West does to its demostrators it was extremely mild, even pleasant.
     
    Britannica:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Candle-Demonstration

    During this so-called “Candle Demonstration” in Bratislava, thousands of Slovaks quietly held burning candles to show their support for religious freedom and human rights. Police dispersed the demonstration with water cannons and made numerous arrests.

    So do we believe random internet myth-saying Beckow, or Britannica?

    What does the Slovak government say?

    https://mzv.sk/en/web/en/slovakia/history/the-candle-demonstration-reminds-slovaks-of-the-power-of-the-people

    The Candle Demonstration on the eve of March 25, 1988 marked the beginning of the end of the Communist regime. It was one of the most significant manifestation of civil resistance in former Czechoslovakia.

    The thousands of people gathered in the centre of the Slovak capital 35 years ago displayed their anger and dissatisfaction peacefully and quietly. The only weapon they wielded in their hands were candles. When lit, the candles unveiled the true scope of the protest. The blinking flames flooded the vast square and adjacent streets as well.

    From the very beginning, the regime tried everything it could to suppress the protest. Organisers had even been detained in advance. Nevertheless, neither the Communist Party nor the police managed to dissuade people from participation in the unauthorised protest. In the end, the police had to employ brutal force against the protesters, including batons, water cannons, even running over people with police cars. All the while the leading communist and police officials observed the demonstration from the comfort of the nearby Carlton Hotel.

    The authoritarian regime reared its ugly head to the world.

    Many were hurt. The police and agents spared neither old people nor young girls. They detained more than 100 people, among them accredited foreign journalists.
     

    :::::::::::::::::

    So do we believe Beckow, or the Slovak government?

    In Beckow we have the classic socialist way of arguing: lie about something, then compare to the West, saying the West is even worse anyways.

    BTW it looks like they may have brought umbrellas because it was raining?

    https://kafkadesk.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/fopufcpxoam8-mc.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow

    There were maybe a thousand people there in a city of half a million. You can see that the pictures – if that crowd is more than 500 people, I am the Pope. That is by the way the National Theatre with a nice fountain in the front. In Washington they arrest them as vandals and sentenced to years in jail.

    They came on buses from villages – yes, it was allowed, there was no “totalitarian’ control. The Austrians joined them. There were more people watching it than participating, the agitated catholics can be fun – candles, singing, the pathos…

    Your “quotes” don’t say anything. They are just in typical propaganda using a few big words and alluding to bad stuff: “brutal”, “many where hurt” (now many, what counts as hurt?), “even running over people” – that definitely didn’t happen. It was retroactively mytholigized for political reasons. It was not an “underground church” – it was a very small demo by maybe a thousand villagers with candles that was “suppressed” by turning on them a water hose. And what do you mean by “detained”? There was nobody actually arrested, what does “detained” mean? And what foreign journos were detained?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    There were maybe a thousand people there in a city of half a million
     
    So you claim.

    Everywhere else claims 2,000-3,000 on the square and a few thousand on adjacent streets. For example:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    around 2000 individuals amassing at Hviezdoslav Square and thousands more occupying the adjacent streets.


    You can see that the pictures – if that crowd is more than 500 people
     
    So was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.

    Looks like more than 500 on the square in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22U4zjrcZHU

    Should we believe you, who first claimed only a few old ladies demonstrated before then claiming you and several others were there, or should we believe the Slovak government, Britannica, etc.


    Your “quotes” don’t say anything. They are just in typical propaganda
     
    Oh and you don't write typical Socialist propaganda?

    using a few big words and alluding to bad stuff
     
    Is "brutal" a big word?

    And what do you mean by “detained”?
     
    What do you think that means?

    There was nobody actually arrested,
     
    Britannica:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Candle-Demonstration

    During this so-called “Candle Demonstration” in Bratislava, thousands of Slovaks quietly held burning candles to show their support for religious freedom and human rights. Police dispersed the demonstration with water cannons and made numerous arrests.

    https://kafkadesk.org/2023/03/23/on-this-day-in-1988-the-candle-demonstration-shook-czechoslovakias-communist-regime-one-year-before-the-velvet-revolution/

    Over 120 people were detained, and many were injured by the police

    Slovak government:

    https://mzv.sk/en/web/en/slovakia/history/the-candle-demonstration-reminds-slovaks-of-the-power-of-the-people

    Many were hurt. The police and agents spared neither old people nor young girls. They detained more than 100 people, among them accredited foreign journalists.

    Also Slovak government:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    The state police however responded with violence; employing batons and water cannons as well as arrests and interrogations

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    141 citizens were arrested by the security forces;

    14 people were injured during the police crackdown

    Replies: @Beckow

  602. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    An excellent comment, overall. Ukraine is your blind spot.

    One minor correction:


    In my experience both human males and females greatly vary in intelligence, from very dumb all the way to remarkably bright. I have no data on averages (e.g., among grad school students female average is higher, but that’s the result of self-selection), but the highest levels of male and female intelligence are about the same.
     
    As in other physical attributes, female variation is smaller than in men. For example, women vary less from the average female height then men do from the average male height (there are more extremely tall and extremely short men then there are women).

    It is similar for intelligence (except the average is the same, while in height of course men are on average taller than women): the male and female average intelligence is about the same, but men are more likely to be found at the extreme bottom and at the extreme top. I don't recall the exact difference in variability, it isn't extreme - there are plenty of brilliant women, too.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

    An excellent comment, overall.

    Thanks!

    female variation is smaller than in men

    Makes biological sense. Evolution usually experiments on males first, because they are less important for the survival of the species. Reproduction rate is determined by the number of females, very few males would be sufficient (think cattle: one bull was enough for hundreds of cows even before artificial insemination).

    Ukraine is your blind spot.

    Ukraine happens to be the country I really know well. I was born there, lived there for ~18 years, visited my parents there many times after that, fluently speak the language, read most of Ukrainian literature, etc. E.g., I wouldn’t pontificate about Malaysia, Peru, or Kenya just because I visited those countries.

    there are plenty of brilliant women

    I am partial to smart women since my teens. Besides, my two best grad students were very smart and hard-working girls, one from the US, the other from China, my best technician was a girl from Cameroon, etc.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    here are plenty of brilliant women

    I am partial to smart women since my teens.
     
    That's as it should be. They are more interesting and their intelligence is not only expressed in intellectual interests but typically in taste.

    Ukraine is your blind spot.

    Ukraine happens to be the country I really know well. I was born there, lived there for ~18 years, visited my parents there many times after that, fluently speak the language
     
    Yes, but you are (to an extent, understandably) bitter because the Ukrainian government bombed your hometown and you blame it rather than the Russians who actively made the rebellion possible, doing to Ukraine what Turkey, Saudi, and the West did to Syria. Perhaps because you lived in Russia after you lived in Ukraine and have more sympathy for the Russian side. So you write some of the crazy things you do, like Ukraine built no new roads or metro stations, etc. "Facts" from Russian websites about Ukraine.

    Also your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians, on the edge geographically and different ethnically. Like New Mexico for the USA. So someone who knows New Mexico really well (I do not doubt your knowledge of Luhansk, specifically) writes about Chicago or New York or Boston from an anti-American Mexican perspective.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    OK, but could you tell us what's the nature of brilliancy in biology?
    Admittedly, you don't make new theories there like in physics, and then trying them either to advance or disprove.

    From what I heard from my IT friend writing software for biologists, you just gather large amounts of data, let's say genetic, and then try to find meaningful sequences aka patterns in DNA with the help of computers.

    Few years ago I met someone who did her PhD on zebrafish, which is quite a small being. How can we talk about human genome when we didn't solve the zebrafish, though?
    I am confused.

    Replies: @Negronicus, @AnonfromTN

  603. @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    IIRC, there is also something about a pattern in the way it starts in the brain. It develops near to the nose.
     
    Infection is a possible trigger, as well as toxic substances. We don’t know for sure. As I tell my students, if we knew everything, we’d have no jobs.

    The root cause of Parkinson’s is degeneration of dopamine-producing neurons in a small brain region substantia nigra (it is called nigra because its cells have black pigment, melanin, in humans, but not in most mammals). Nigra is not very close to the nose, it’s near the brainstem in the middle of the brain. Because of this degeneration dopamine is not supplied to another brain region, striatum, which controls movements. Hence inability to move (akinesia in medical lingo). In fact, symptoms appear when >90% of nigra neurons are already dead: we have significant spare capacity. Parkinson’s is treated by dopamine precursor L-DOPA, which other neurons (e.g., those that produce serotonin) can convert into dopamine (due to similarity of enzymes) and deliver to the striatum. This works for several years, after which starts what doctors call dyskinesia: aimless involuntary movements (AIMs) involving various muscles. Depending on which muscles are involved AIMs are separated into four categories. Dyskinesia (which is currently untreatable) is no better than Parkinson’s itself.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    There is a doctor who sounds like a charlatan who does podcasts and lives in El Salvador and is berserk about getting sunlight exposure who goes on and on and on about melanin. Jack Something. He is one of those fellows who dropped 150 pounds at age 45 and believes he possesses the panacea of perpetual youth.

    I thought Dmitry had a good point that longevity serves no evolutionary purpose and anybody who gets it is going to be a random accident. Others have said the same thing for a long time but I don’t think many people are eager to listen to them.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I thought Dmitry had a good point that longevity serves no evolutionary purpose and anybody who gets it is going to be a random accident.
     
    As a biologist, I agree 100%. In non-social species longevity beyond reproductive age is useless: the individual consumes resources w/o contributing to species survival. In social species it is advantageous for females to live 0.5-1 generation (9-18 yeas in humans) beyond reproductive age to help daughters take care of their children.

    There is no unambiguous proof, but the most parsimonious explanation of aging is that it is basically a random disintegration of things beyond the control of natural selection (i.e., evolutionary irrelevant process). In that case longevity is a random fluke.

    Replies: @Jazman

  604. @Dmitry
    @Mikel


    In the last meta-analysis that I gave you
     
    You said about parrots. I need to repeat like a parrot because I was uncertain if you understand the concept I am explaining. From posting the last paper, it seems it was correct to be uncertain.

    The paper concludes there is an "association" which is the correlation we have been discussing so they say cardio-respiratory fitness can be a diagnostic for mortality. To be a good diagnostic, the direction is health -> cardiovascular fitness.


    right there you have a group of PhDs giving a formal and rigorous answer to the very questions you keep repeating for several weeks

     

    Your credentialism is surprising because the problem is many of the authors of these papers seem to not have formal education in the inference parts of their papers. They are do inferences which they don't have the education level to understand. Some of them don't always understand the implications the tests they choose from the software menu.

    In this last paper unlike an earlier one you posted, they understand they cannot say much so and conclude modestly there is an association and this association can be diagnostic. Although some of their writing inside about exercise recommendations is not supported, it contradicts the logic of using fitness as a diagnostic which is their conclusion


    37 cohort studies where the authors had controlled for confounding factors like existence of illness and risk factors (page 8) and used sophisticated methods to avoid reverse-causation bias (pages 9, 14).
    After excluding the studies that
     
    "Sophisticated method" is to exclude "those with ≤5 years of follow-up". Health is a continuum and not dying within 5 years doesn't indicate absence of reverse causation.

    Specifically, in the video I showed you Professor Calbet explains the results of the mating experiments with mice selected for a genetically high vo2max

     

    This could only support "reverse causation" explanation of the correlation.

    Of course, 99.9% of the respondents would choose the second guy. For some strange reason, you keep insisting that there is no reason to give that common sense answer.

     

    You still don't understand the point. This "folk belief" would support reverse causation.

    Let's say, your grandparents were horse farmers. When you stress test them for cardio respiratory fitness, one of their horses runs around the farm. Another horse collapses after a minute.

    Which will they believe is more likely to die soon?

    Is the folk belief because "we haven't made the horse do enough exercise"? Or is it because "the energy of the horse is result of how healthy they are?".

    -

    With the mice. If you want to have more energic children of mice, you would choose the mice with more energetic parents. Does this imply "we should make the mice run more on the wheel"? Or does this imply "mice running more on wheel is symptom mice being more healthy"?

    hey used the following techniques to address that question and many more that could introduce bias in the cohort studies and compromise the quality of the evidence:


    GRADE (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation)
    PRISMA and MOOSE guidelines
    Cochrane Risk of Bias in Non-randomised Studies (ROBINS-I)
    Begg’s funnel plots
    Egger’s regression symmetry test
    Stata module metaninf
    Duval and Tweedie’s nonparametric trim-and-fill method

    I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools but… are you? Reply honestly and explain why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.
     

    Actually I watched some of the Cochrane videos on YouTube when they explain these.

    The paper is meta analysis. GRADE and ROBINS-I are software to check different aspects like the papers are not hiding results.

    The funnel plots/Egger's are designed to check the researchers are not doing publication bias.

    metaninf is a module in Stata. It sounds like it retrieves information about the proportion of influence of each study in the final.

    metaninf is a command in the software which finds the contribution of a study to the final result. This is related to the topic I was explaining to Yahya a few months ago, when he became pretty angry.

    Metaanalysis often is to view not each study as equally weighted, but the participants in the study. In terns of the discussion about "correlation between IQ test results and economic history", then our analysis would be a lot more influenced by China than by Norway, because many more "partipants" in the study.


    why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.

     

    None of those are relevant to our discussion. The meta-analysis is testing if there is a correlation. The problem in some of the papers is not about the existence of the correlation. It's in the inference about causation.

    This is just pure ignorance. As it happens, I have done both a VO2max test and a stress test in the past. They both measure very different things.

     

    You don't know the concept of "stress testing"?

    It's one of the most common things in engineering. Most of the products you buy have been stress tested. Sometimes they are doing load testing to understand the modes of failure.

    In animal, V02 max would be example of doing stress testing of the animal on a part of their system.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_testing_(software)


    medicine doctor and just by coincidence, we were discussing the differences between both tests not long ago. VO2 max tests cannot be used to diagnose any illness.
     
    Vo2 max testing could be used to diagnose absence of many illnesses if you wanted. You would just need enough sample of the falling V02 max at different stages of the illness.

    Nonsense. There are some good reasons to avoid extreme forms of exercise if you are untrained but the CDC doesn’t say “just avoid extreme physical inactivity” at all.

     

    The CDC guideline you transcribed just said “just avoid extreme physical inactivity”. If you are less than their guideline you are only doing extreme physical inactivity.

    The longevity field is not about finding drugs that increase lifespan. It’s composed by the scientists that study the biological mechanisms of again and development. I

     

    The "longevity field" is a YouTube marketing term. It's not an academic field. There is nowhere in the university to study the longevity field with "Professor of longevity".

    The words "longevity field" are false marketing for consumers because it contains an implication that there are "longevity solutions". As we know, there are not validated "longevity" drugs or treatments.


    be amused by a software engineer proclaiming

     

    You have contradictory expressions about computer scientists.

    In the same comment, you were posting work of software engineers while saying "I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools", like you were happy about the people have been doing the main work in the paper - software engineers who made those tools that does the difficult work in their paper.


    Nobel laureates) would not be amused by a software engineer proclaiming that their field of study does not exist.
     
    If they have Nobel prize, then their field of study is chemistry, medicine, physics, economics.

    one cannot believe anything they say is not a useful criticism. There’s no information there for me to reevaluate anything I thought previously.

     

    As I understand you still didn't understand the concept. Maybe this time we will be lucky?

    we are direct descendants of hunter-gatherers. Our species evolved for hundreds of thousands of years to do physical exercise in order to survive and descends from prior species that had been doing the same for millions of years

     

    These naturalistic arguments don't make sense for a few reasons.

    1. After reproduction age, almost all selection was over.* The selective pressures on our current genetics were almost all until the end of reproduction age.

    While you are talking about exercise extending the lifespan of people who are over the age of reproduction, which were already outside selection.

    2. Animals have longer life expectancy in captivity than in the wild. Chimpanzees live longer in the zoo than in the jungle. Humans have much longer life expectancy now than their ancestors.

    So, the idea of societies where people live longer than their ancestors, will copy the ancestors to live longer, doesn't make sense unless you believe some Biblical mythology.

    3. There is a lot of controversy in archelogical if humans had fire for most of their evolution, as the archelogical evidence is mixed even for something which has real evidence that shows on the ground.

    This view we would know how much ancient humans were exercising is not correct. We don't know how much exercise they were doing. At some times, probably reproductively successful groups were doing less exercise than the unsuccessful ones, in other epochs it would change.

    4. What timeslice of evolution is relevant? Most of our systems were evolved by non-human ancestors, who would have different levels of activity during the reproductive portion of their life.



    -

    * If we wanted to effective selectively breed animal for better aging, we would prevent them from reproducing until end of the age of reproduction, until a high proportion are not able to reproduct. This would be extending the proportion of the animals' lifetime which is exposed to selective pressure which is the reproductive phase.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel, @Mikel

    No matter how many times you are exposed to it, it is always fascinating to watch someone insist on being comically wrong in a discussion.

    The idea that you have detected a fatal flaw in all vo2max studies that all the experts in the field, Wikipedia, the American Medical Association and literally hundreds of PhDs have not been able to discover (even thought the Laukannen team explicitly looked for the presence of that fatal flaw in dozens of published papers) is remarkably unbelievable on its face. But the more you insist on making that claim, the more it becomes clear that you don’t even understand what the concept of reverse causation means.

    In this particular case reverse causation would mean that instead of vo2max helping you live longer, living longer helps you have a higher vo2max. But, as we have already discussed:

    a) Living longer actually decreases your vo2max. Older people unequivocally have lower vo2max on average.
    b) Most young people don’t have any disease, chronic or otherwise, in the modern world but if they don’t do any exercise, their vo2max is low. Conversely, an old person is most likely to have several chronic diseases due to age but, if he has exercised intensely during his lifetime, his vo2max will be high. It is perfectly known how to increase anybody’s vo2max: endurance exercise, not absence of disease.
    3) People with any given disease live longer if their vo2max is high than if it is low.

    So your argument is DEAD right there. We know what the direction of the causation is in this case of two correlated variables. I could repeat myself and provide many additional lines of evidence to show that the causation is ‘higher vo2max -> lower mortality rate’. But apart from being a waste of time, it may actually give the impression that refuting your hypothesis requires more sophisticated arguments than what I have said above when in reality it doesn’t.

    Let’s suppose that scientists catch a number of fish and observe that the bigger they are, the more mercury they have in their tissues. If that was all we knew, two null hypotheses could be established: H01- Growing up makes fish accumulate mercury. Ho2- Ingesting mercury helps fish grow up. Strictly speaking, this is the right approach, Scientists should resist the temptation of making the data say more than it can say. Establishing only valid inferences is the very nature of the scientific method.

    However, as time passes, much more data is gathered. Scientists observe that fish that live in bodies of water with less mercury grow as much as the more contaminated ones but they also have higher levels the bigger they are. Additionally, juvenile fish that weren’t even studied originally show only traces of mercury. Now H02 becomes a crackpot theory and cannot be proposed seriously as an explanation of the data. This is exactly what you are doing: ‘Look, these scientists are just looking at the mercury in another batch of fish but they are not asking themselves if the mercury is what causes fish to grow!’

    I may or may not say more on this topic. I’ve just returned from a vo2 boosting hike at high altitude and it’s time to relax but don’t bother muddying the waters with replies to other issues if you are unable to address the crux of the matter in this comment.

  605. If anyone wants a free astrological reading, please post either your chart or your date, time and place of birth. If you don’t know your time of birth to within 5 minutes, don’t bother because I can’t make a chart without that info. I’ll post the reading on here. Usually I am around 90% accurate

  606. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Dmitry

    Doctors are our gods. Medicine is our religion.

    You guys are debating how many angels can fit on a pin head.

    https://ia903401.us.archive.org/6/items/jon-rappoport-the-matrix-revealed-part-1/Jon-Rappoport-The-Matrix-Revealed-part-1.pdf


    the doctor is still the contact point for God. That’s the unspoken
    feeling. God and deliverance from suffering and salvation. This is not just the
    subconscious expression of a need by the patient. It is that, but it’s more. The
    medical superstructure is built that way.
     

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

    You guys are debating how many angels can fit on a pin head.

    I wish Dmitry was capable of a byzantine debate. But unfortunately, all he is doing is repeat time and again a tinfoil-hat hypothesis, impervious to any evidence, expert assessment and scientific paper he is presented with.

    Speaking of byzantine debates, do you have any opinion on the zone-2 debate at all? It may not matter too much for those of us not competing in any sport but at least it’s a legitimate debate between heavy-weights that I find interesting to follow. I would rather spend weeks discussing that than Dmitry’s nonsense. I do have some opinions based on my experience but no firm conclusions yet.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel

    The zone 2 debate makes my eyes glaze over.

    The best cardio is wind sprints. It also is the most unpleasant. If you don't feel like doing wind sprints doing something else is vastly better than doing nothing.

    Who ever feels like doing wind sprints? I suppose Jannik Sinner likes them. He will be getting over that soon.

    Replies: @Mikel

  607. @AnonfromTN
    @songbird


    IIRC, there is also something about a pattern in the way it starts in the brain. It develops near to the nose.
     
    Infection is a possible trigger, as well as toxic substances. We don’t know for sure. As I tell my students, if we knew everything, we’d have no jobs.

    The root cause of Parkinson’s is degeneration of dopamine-producing neurons in a small brain region substantia nigra (it is called nigra because its cells have black pigment, melanin, in humans, but not in most mammals). Nigra is not very close to the nose, it’s near the brainstem in the middle of the brain. Because of this degeneration dopamine is not supplied to another brain region, striatum, which controls movements. Hence inability to move (akinesia in medical lingo). In fact, symptoms appear when >90% of nigra neurons are already dead: we have significant spare capacity. Parkinson’s is treated by dopamine precursor L-DOPA, which other neurons (e.g., those that produce serotonin) can convert into dopamine (due to similarity of enzymes) and deliver to the striatum. This works for several years, after which starts what doctors call dyskinesia: aimless involuntary movements (AIMs) involving various muscles. Depending on which muscles are involved AIMs are separated into four categories. Dyskinesia (which is currently untreatable) is no better than Parkinson’s itself.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    Nigra is not very close to the nose

    ,
    What I meant is that the olfactory center seems to be affected first in a lot of people. Diminished sense of smell is an early warning sign in many individuals which presents before other symptoms, sometimes as much a s a decade before. Patients have diminished volume in the olfactory bulb.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10581567/

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    IMO, one big question is whether anyone ever got Parkinson's from picking their nose, or plucking nose hair.

    Am going to guess yes.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @sudden death
    @songbird

    Personally know several relatively not old people (35-50 y.o. range) whom lost roughly about 70-80% of previous smell sensitivity and are able now to feel nothing but only very strong odours somewhat. And it all happened after mild, almost asymptomatic corona cases, so probably only after long(?) time now it will be possible to tell if this virus also can be capable to trigger/cause Parkinson disease on statistically significant levels.

    Replies: @songbird, @John Johnson

  608. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    There is a doctor who sounds like a charlatan who does podcasts and lives in El Salvador and is berserk about getting sunlight exposure who goes on and on and on about melanin. Jack Something. He is one of those fellows who dropped 150 pounds at age 45 and believes he possesses the panacea of perpetual youth.

    I thought Dmitry had a good point that longevity serves no evolutionary purpose and anybody who gets it is going to be a random accident. Others have said the same thing for a long time but I don't think many people are eager to listen to them.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I thought Dmitry had a good point that longevity serves no evolutionary purpose and anybody who gets it is going to be a random accident.

    As a biologist, I agree 100%. In non-social species longevity beyond reproductive age is useless: the individual consumes resources w/o contributing to species survival. In social species it is advantageous for females to live 0.5-1 generation (9-18 yeas in humans) beyond reproductive age to help daughters take care of their children.

    There is no unambiguous proof, but the most parsimonious explanation of aging is that it is basically a random disintegration of things beyond the control of natural selection (i.e., evolutionary irrelevant process). In that case longevity is a random fluke.

    • Replies: @Jazman
    @AnonfromTN

    What is your opinion on ancient Biblical lifespan like for example Methuselah lived to be 969 years old :) we have jokes in Serbia " old like Methuselah" :) . Even your colleague claiming that is true . https://apps.ualberta.ca/directory/person/terzin

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  609. @Mr. XYZ
    I have recently written a Substack article in favor of creating and commercializing child support insurance:

    https://randommusingsandhistory.substack.com/p/child-support-insurance-a-solution

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    From my own Substack:

    “Some pro-choicers have previously proposed a “financial abortion” or “paper abortion” option for men who don’t want to pay or risk paying child support in the event of an unplanned pregnancy and the woman deciding to keep and raise the child herself:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_abortion

    It’s obvious that there is an asymmetry here: For a (cisgender) woman who lives in a place where abortion is legal and who wants to guarantee that she will never be forced to pay child support for 18+ years in the event of an unplanned pregnancy, all she needs to do is to get an abortion (and to take a pregnancy test every month or two in order to make sure that she catches this pregnancy in time). In contrast, for a (cisgender) man to guarantee this outcome, he would either need to abstain from having penis-in-vagina sex with all fertile and potentially fertile cisgender women for the rest of his life (and even that might tragically not be enough: https://supreme.findlaw.com/legal-commentary/when-oral-sex-results-in-a-pregnancy-can-men-ever-escape-paternity-obligations.html ) or get surgically castrated. All other forms of contraception can fail, including condoms, vasectomies, and even bilateral epididymectomies (which AFAIK have never actually failed but can nevertheless fail in theory if a fistula forms between the testicle(s) and the vas deferens, thus restoring one’s fertility). Clearly, that sounds extreme. All other options for men would present at least a little bit of risk, risk that is likely to eventually become actualized for some men somewhere due to the law of truly large numbers:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_truly_large_numbers

    If a woman promises abortion and/or adoption in the event of an unplanned pregnancy, then most of the time, her promises are likely to be fulfilled. However, there is never actually any guarantee in regards to this because people, including women, are not robots and are thus capable of changing their minds in regards to this (as well as, more rarely, of lying about their intentions in regards to this in the first place). So, a man whose sterilization or (in the future) Vasalgel injection fails and whose female sexual partner (or partners) changes her mind (or lies) about abortion and/or adoption is likely to find himself is an extraordinarily shitty situation. Cumulatively speaking, over 18+ years, child support adds up to a lot of money. Specifically tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars! While situations of men in such positions might be very rare, I do suspect that they did occur at one point or another. And that’s certainly not very conductive for peace of mind, let alone for the chance that one oneself might eventually end up becoming one of these extraordinarily unlucky men. In turn, this brings me to my proposed solution in regards to this:

    Child support insurance. Specifically, insurance that will pay all of one’s child support for 18+ years in the event of a sterilization failure and/or LARC (long-acting reversible contraception) failure. Both men and women (such as those women who consider abortion to be immoral) would be able to purchase this insurance, though I suspect that men would benefit from it more than women would because women, unlike men, already mostly have the unilateral option of abortion to deal with unplanned pregnancies. I would guess that such insurance can work with either premiums (say, on a monthly basis) or with a much larger one-time payment. I would suspect that such insurance shouldn’t be too expensive if the risk of failure for products such as Vasalgel, let alone vasectomies and bilateral epididymectomies, will be extremely tiny. Of course, there might be a risk of insurance fraud (a lot of people do want kids and would be delighted to have someone else pay for them, after all), which is why I’m wondering if it might be prudent to require one to be willing to permanently give up one’s parental rights to any children whom one expects child support insurance to pay for on one’s behalf. In such a scenario, one would end up being not much more than a sperm donor for these children, simply one who conceived through sexual intercourse (like some informal sperm donors actually do, in fact, nowadays) instead of through artificial insemination or in-vitro fertilization. I would suspect that imposing such a condition on acquiring insurance payouts for this should reduce the risk of insurance fraud significantly. The remaining risk of insurance fraud can, of course, be factored into the cost of the insurance itself, like we apparently currently do with other forms of insurance.

    People, including pro-choicers, often say that child support is meant for the child and is not meant to be punitive towards non-custodial parents. Yet creating cheap, affordable, and accessible child support insurance would ensure that children get supported just as strongly while ensuring that child support would be much, much less punitive towards non-custodial parents whose LARC and/or sterilization failed. That strikes me as a win-win scenario that both pro-lifers and pro-choicers can get behind, no? Pro-lifers should especially be willing to support such insurance since it could make some women more likely to give birth, especially if these women previously contemplated abortions for financial reasons. That said, though, such insurance does not appear to exist on the insurance marketplace right now (I’ve asked over 100 Lloyd’s specialty insurance brokers about this; not a single one of them actually said Yes in regards to this) and thus if the private insurance marketplace is not going to solve this issue, maybe the government could and should by creating such insurance (specifically child support insurance) itself? Would or could that actually be feasible? It seems like it would be desirable for the government to do since it could reduce child poverty here in the US, at least slightly. Of course, it would also be highly desirable for US state governments to amend their insurance statutes to make it crystal-clear that one indeed has an unlimited insurable interest in one’s own child support obligations in order to ensure that no idiot judge will ever invalidate such an insurance contract on public policy grounds due to their belief that such insurance treats unwanted children like losses and burdens. (Of course, this would only be relevant if such insurance was created by an insurance company; any insurance created by the government would automatically be compatible with public policy unless discriminatory or something like that, one would think.)

    One more issue that I would like to mention is minors: AFAIK, minors are not legally allowed to buy insurance here in the US. If so, then maybe an exception could be made for them here. Specifically, I’m not talking about minors directly purchasing such insurance, but rather having the government (either their US state government or the US federal government) purchase such insurance for them on their behalf. Of course, I also very strongly think that victims of statutory rape should not be legally required to pay child support, so that is another aspect of the current (child support) laws which should certainly urgently be changed if one actually has any conscience.

    Pro-lifers would oppose a “financial abortion” because it could very possibly make abortion more likely, while some pro-choicers could oppose it because it could leave a lot of children much more destitute. However, my child support insurance proposal—which, by the way, is not an original one—does not have either of these two defects and thus should be astronomically more capable of securing significant amounts of pro-life as well as pro-choice support for it.Anyway, what do you think? Does this idea actually strike you as feasible, or simply too idealistic and unrealistic? Any thoughts on this idea of mine?”

  610. @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    You guys are debating how many angels can fit on a pin head.
     
    I wish Dmitry was capable of a byzantine debate. But unfortunately, all he is doing is repeat time and again a tinfoil-hat hypothesis, impervious to any evidence, expert assessment and scientific paper he is presented with.

    Speaking of byzantine debates, do you have any opinion on the zone-2 debate at all? It may not matter too much for those of us not competing in any sport but at least it's a legitimate debate between heavy-weights that I find interesting to follow. I would rather spend weeks discussing that than Dmitry's nonsense. I do have some opinions based on my experience but no firm conclusions yet.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The zone 2 debate makes my eyes glaze over.

    The best cardio is wind sprints. It also is the most unpleasant. If you don’t feel like doing wind sprints doing something else is vastly better than doing nothing.

    Who ever feels like doing wind sprints? I suppose Jannik Sinner likes them. He will be getting over that soon.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    The best cardio is wind sprints.
     
    The problem with wind sprints is that past age 40 or so, you're going to break something if you do that repeatedly. I got an ankle injury in my late 40s doing something similar for HIIT and haven't bothered since. However, I do something equivalent for my runners' high: a final all-out sprint at the end of my uphill run. Since you're going uphill, you can't possibly reach a high speed and you're pretty warmed up with all the uphill running behind, so I actually feel that it strengthens my joints. But I'm not sure I can recommend if you're not into flagellating highs.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  611. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    An excellent comment, overall. Ukraine is your blind spot.

    One minor correction:


    In my experience both human males and females greatly vary in intelligence, from very dumb all the way to remarkably bright. I have no data on averages (e.g., among grad school students female average is higher, but that’s the result of self-selection), but the highest levels of male and female intelligence are about the same.
     
    As in other physical attributes, female variation is smaller than in men. For example, women vary less from the average female height then men do from the average male height (there are more extremely tall and extremely short men then there are women).

    It is similar for intelligence (except the average is the same, while in height of course men are on average taller than women): the male and female average intelligence is about the same, but men are more likely to be found at the extreme bottom and at the extreme top. I don't recall the exact difference in variability, it isn't extreme - there are plenty of brilliant women, too.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

    So, if a very close female relative of mine is extraordinarily intelligent (36 out of 36 on the ACT, 1590 out of 1600 on the SAT), then that means that her parents had an even bigger extraordinary stroke of luck with her than they would have had with a male child of the same intelligence, right?

  612. @songbird
    @AnonfromTN


    Nigra is not very close to the nose
     
    ,
    What I meant is that the olfactory center seems to be affected first in a lot of people. Diminished sense of smell is an early warning sign in many individuals which presents before other symptoms, sometimes as much a s a decade before. Patients have diminished volume in the olfactory bulb.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10581567/

    Replies: @songbird, @sudden death

    IMO, one big question is whether anyone ever got Parkinson’s from picking their nose, or plucking nose hair.

    Am going to guess yes.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Claudius' physician in Robert Graves' book advised him to never blow his nose but just let the stuff drip. The boy in my elementary school who habitually picked his nose and ate the boogers grew up to be a homo.

    If you can't tie your theory to a pharmaceutical you have no chance in this information environment. : (

  613. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I thought Dmitry had a good point that longevity serves no evolutionary purpose and anybody who gets it is going to be a random accident.
     
    As a biologist, I agree 100%. In non-social species longevity beyond reproductive age is useless: the individual consumes resources w/o contributing to species survival. In social species it is advantageous for females to live 0.5-1 generation (9-18 yeas in humans) beyond reproductive age to help daughters take care of their children.

    There is no unambiguous proof, but the most parsimonious explanation of aging is that it is basically a random disintegration of things beyond the control of natural selection (i.e., evolutionary irrelevant process). In that case longevity is a random fluke.

    Replies: @Jazman

    What is your opinion on ancient Biblical lifespan like for example Methuselah lived to be 969 years old 🙂 we have jokes in Serbia ” old like Methuselah” 🙂 . Even your colleague claiming that is true . https://apps.ualberta.ca/directory/person/terzin

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Jazman


    What is your opinion on ancient Biblical lifespan like for example Methuselah lived to be 969 years old
     
    As a biologist, I can’t believe it. If you eliminate the contribution of infant mortality (say, only count humans that lived past 3 years of age), the distribution of longevity is a Gaussian, with the probability decreasing as you move away from the average (in symmetrical Gaussian average is the same as “mode”, corresponds to the peak). The probability of a human living 969 years is as close to zero as makes no difference. The probability of a string of related individuals living the years described in the Bible is even closer to zero. The Bible is an interesting reading, but it has a lot of things that were either made up or corrupted in copying and/or translation. This is one of those.

    Religious Jews use those numbers to calculate the age of the world since creation. Their calculations are as credible as the implication in the first chapter that the Earth is flat.

    we have jokes in Serbia ” old like Methuselah”
     
    There is similar expression in Russian. I’d expect something like that expression to be in every language of a Christian nation.

    Even your colleague claiming that is true
     
    People believed all sorts of preposterous things for thousands of years. There were people believing that they are Napoleon or Julius Caesar. Recent Russian joke says that there are fewer lunatic asylum inmates believing themselves to be Napoleon or Julius Caesar because modern people rarely know anything about these guys.

    Replies: @Beckow

  614. @songbird
    @songbird

    IMO, one big question is whether anyone ever got Parkinson's from picking their nose, or plucking nose hair.

    Am going to guess yes.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Claudius’ physician in Robert Graves’ book advised him to never blow his nose but just let the stuff drip. The boy in my elementary school who habitually picked his nose and ate the boogers grew up to be a homo.

    If you can’t tie your theory to a pharmaceutical you have no chance in this information environment. : (

    • LOL: songbird
  615. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    There were maybe a thousand people there in a city of half a million. You can see that the pictures - if that crowd is more than 500 people, I am the Pope. That is by the way the National Theatre with a nice fountain in the front. In Washington they arrest them as vandals and sentenced to years in jail.

    They came on buses from villages - yes, it was allowed, there was no "totalitarian' control. The Austrians joined them. There were more people watching it than participating, the agitated catholics can be fun - candles, singing, the pathos...

    Your "quotes" don't say anything. They are just in typical propaganda using a few big words and alluding to bad stuff: "brutal", "many where hurt" (now many, what counts as hurt?), "even running over people" - that definitely didn't happen. It was retroactively mytholigized for political reasons. It was not an "underground church" - it was a very small demo by maybe a thousand villagers with candles that was "suppressed" by turning on them a water hose. And what do you mean by "detained"? There was nobody actually arrested, what does "detained" mean? And what foreign journos were detained?

    Replies: @AP

    There were maybe a thousand people there in a city of half a million

    So you claim.

    Everywhere else claims 2,000-3,000 on the square and a few thousand on adjacent streets. For example:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    around 2000 individuals amassing at Hviezdoslav Square and thousands more occupying the adjacent streets.

    You can see that the pictures – if that crowd is more than 500 people

    So was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.

    Looks like more than 500 on the square in this video:

    Should we believe you, who first claimed only a few old ladies demonstrated before then claiming you and several others were there, or should we believe the Slovak government, Britannica, etc.

    Your “quotes” don’t say anything. They are just in typical propaganda

    Oh and you don’t write typical Socialist propaganda?

    using a few big words and alluding to bad stuff

    Is “brutal” a big word?

    And what do you mean by “detained”?

    What do you think that means?

    There was nobody actually arrested,

    Britannica:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Candle-Demonstration

    During this so-called “Candle Demonstration” in Bratislava, thousands of Slovaks quietly held burning candles to show their support for religious freedom and human rights. Police dispersed the demonstration with water cannons and made numerous arrests.

    https://kafkadesk.org/2023/03/23/on-this-day-in-1988-the-candle-demonstration-shook-czechoslovakias-communist-regime-one-year-before-the-velvet-revolution/

    Over 120 people were detained, and many were injured by the police

    Slovak government:

    https://mzv.sk/en/web/en/slovakia/history/the-candle-demonstration-reminds-slovaks-of-the-power-of-the-people

    Many were hurt. The police and agents spared neither old people nor young girls. They detained more than 100 people, among them accredited foreign journalists.

    Also Slovak government:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    The state police however responded with violence; employing batons and water cannons as well as arrests and interrogations

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    141 citizens were arrested by the security forces;

    14 people were injured during the police crackdown

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.
     
    What? At what demo can people precisely tell how many people were there? Are you nuts or just pathologically dishonest? The two sides always estimate the crowds differently. Why is that a "change"?

    You are also repeating mindlessly one-sided propaganda. There were more people watching than participating. Nobody was arrested, if some were ID-ed and issued a ticket that is normal when blocking traffic. The "organizers" mythologized it later and your Western propaganda organs like Wiki, Britannica took the lies and exaggerations and turned them into a bigger lie by skipping context, mislabeling things, using terms they would never use at demos at home.

    One can say that "Macron's state security brutally suppressed peaceful demonstrations by farmers killing some and arresting thousands..."...Would you agree? That has just happened in France and is a lot closer to the truth than your "candle demo". I doubt "Britannica" describes it that way. You are an American Idiot obediently regurgitating the official propaganda. You would make a great commie.

    In what you attached is a picture of the annual Sastin pilgrimage that has nothing to do with the "candle demo". A transparent attempt to beef up the crowds. It is clearly labeled, why do you lie about it?

    What's the point in you trying to create a fake reality? Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine that all honesty is out of the window? The candle demo was a long time ago, it doesn't matter, I just happen to have a first-hand experience. But the same technique of lying, exaggerating and omitting key details is what you do with everything. You are a sad case.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

  616. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    An excellent comment, overall.
     
    Thanks!

    female variation is smaller than in men
     
    Makes biological sense. Evolution usually experiments on males first, because they are less important for the survival of the species. Reproduction rate is determined by the number of females, very few males would be sufficient (think cattle: one bull was enough for hundreds of cows even before artificial insemination).

    Ukraine is your blind spot.
     
    Ukraine happens to be the country I really know well. I was born there, lived there for ~18 years, visited my parents there many times after that, fluently speak the language, read most of Ukrainian literature, etc. E.g., I wouldn’t pontificate about Malaysia, Peru, or Kenya just because I visited those countries.

    there are plenty of brilliant women
     
    I am partial to smart women since my teens. Besides, my two best grad students were very smart and hard-working girls, one from the US, the other from China, my best technician was a girl from Cameroon, etc.

    Replies: @AP, @Another Polish Perspective

    here are plenty of brilliant women

    I am partial to smart women since my teens.

    That’s as it should be. They are more interesting and their intelligence is not only expressed in intellectual interests but typically in taste.

    Ukraine is your blind spot.

    Ukraine happens to be the country I really know well. I was born there, lived there for ~18 years, visited my parents there many times after that, fluently speak the language

    Yes, but you are (to an extent, understandably) bitter because the Ukrainian government bombed your hometown and you blame it rather than the Russians who actively made the rebellion possible, doing to Ukraine what Turkey, Saudi, and the West did to Syria. Perhaps because you lived in Russia after you lived in Ukraine and have more sympathy for the Russian side. So you write some of the crazy things you do, like Ukraine built no new roads or metro stations, etc. “Facts” from Russian websites about Ukraine.

    Also your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians, on the edge geographically and different ethnically. Like New Mexico for the USA. So someone who knows New Mexico really well (I do not doubt your knowledge of Luhansk, specifically) writes about Chicago or New York or Boston from an anti-American Mexican perspective.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians
     
    Interesting coming-out. So, what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?

    You are right that my view is heavily influenced by the fact that I did not live in Donbass for decades. It is actually Russian, fairly mild. Donbass view today is burning hatred of everything Ukrainian. As Ukrainian POWs say, “Russian soldiers treat us well, but Donbass soldiers want to kill us all”.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

  617. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel

    The zone 2 debate makes my eyes glaze over.

    The best cardio is wind sprints. It also is the most unpleasant. If you don't feel like doing wind sprints doing something else is vastly better than doing nothing.

    Who ever feels like doing wind sprints? I suppose Jannik Sinner likes them. He will be getting over that soon.

    Replies: @Mikel

    The best cardio is wind sprints.

    The problem with wind sprints is that past age 40 or so, you’re going to break something if you do that repeatedly. I got an ankle injury in my late 40s doing something similar for HIIT and haven’t bothered since. However, I do something equivalent for my runners’ high: a final all-out sprint at the end of my uphill run. Since you’re going uphill, you can’t possibly reach a high speed and you’re pretty warmed up with all the uphill running behind, so I actually feel that it strengthens my joints. But I’m not sure I can recommend if you’re not into flagellating highs.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mikel

    My running days are long done.

    I like the PowerMill escalator motion stair climber, not to be confused with the StairMaster stepper having the up/down motion. The latter burns calories but doesn't do much muscular wise. On the former, I can do 5 minutes at level 25 manual with 2-3 minutes rest 4-8 times.

    Life fitness gym bike 97.5 RPM average on manual at level 14 of 20, up to an hour straight or broken in intervals. Will periodically do five minutes @ 100 - 110 RPM. Jacob's Ladder, Cybex Elliptical and swimming are the other options. I prefer walking at a leisurely 3.5 miles and hour but have gone 4.5.

    Best to structure these activities on different days along with some weight training 2-4 days a week. Abs and obliques can be done daily. As an example, one day can be weights, bike, stair-climber and walking. The next day can be elliptical, swimming and Jacob's Ladder.

    I've a Trek FX-1 hybrid, which I want to have upgraded for greater resistance at top gear. Might get a road bike instead. FX-1 is comfy.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Greasy William

  618. Boy Putin better hope this is not true:

    1000 long range ATACMs?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Bringing a bunch of western missiles into Ukraine seems like a bad omen for Kiev. Maybe they should leave the missiles in Poland or just send them back to North America. This could save a great many Ukrainian lives.

    Without seeing hard numbers I guess that Ukraine has less than 20 major power plants left operational. Once Russia takes these out there will be no reason for any civilians to stay. Then Russia can invoke total war on the AFU. This is the blessing which the ATACMS will bring to the country. This destruction will not help the slavs at all, but it may be what the (((western))) puppet masters desire.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    A half dozen or more patriot systems would come in handy too. Germany recently pledged to provide one of these systems. The US needs to man up and provide some of these systems too.

  619. @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    The best cardio is wind sprints.
     
    The problem with wind sprints is that past age 40 or so, you're going to break something if you do that repeatedly. I got an ankle injury in my late 40s doing something similar for HIIT and haven't bothered since. However, I do something equivalent for my runners' high: a final all-out sprint at the end of my uphill run. Since you're going uphill, you can't possibly reach a high speed and you're pretty warmed up with all the uphill running behind, so I actually feel that it strengthens my joints. But I'm not sure I can recommend if you're not into flagellating highs.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    My running days are long done.

    I like the PowerMill escalator motion stair climber, not to be confused with the StairMaster stepper having the up/down motion. The latter burns calories but doesn’t do much muscular wise. On the former, I can do 5 minutes at level 25 manual with 2-3 minutes rest 4-8 times.

    Life fitness gym bike 97.5 RPM average on manual at level 14 of 20, up to an hour straight or broken in intervals. Will periodically do five minutes @ 100 – 110 RPM. Jacob’s Ladder, Cybex Elliptical and swimming are the other options. I prefer walking at a leisurely 3.5 miles and hour but have gone 4.5.

    Best to structure these activities on different days along with some weight training 2-4 days a week. Abs and obliques can be done daily. As an example, one day can be weights, bike, stair-climber and walking. The next day can be elliptical, swimming and Jacob’s Ladder.

    I’ve a Trek FX-1 hybrid, which I want to have upgraded for greater resistance at top gear. Might get a road bike instead. FX-1 is comfy.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Mikhail

    Sounds like you have some very complete routines. Similar to Attia's but the freak spends something like an hour a day doing stability motions. It makes you wonder what he wants to live a long life for. I would miss exercising outdoors with that type of indoor-heavy routines. Up until recently I didn't even compute health as a factor, I hiked and ran for fun. My lifting days (the unlucky days of the week for me) were for aesthetics most of all. But I know some people love pumping iron. I guess it all depends on what you get used to at an early age. Eventually it all becomes addictive because exercise releases lots of endorphins but I can't imagine a bigger release than going all out in the middle of nature.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

    , @Greasy William
    @Mikhail


    My running days are long done.
     
    I thought that Russians thought that running was "gay"?
  620. @Dmitry
    @Mikel


    In the last meta-analysis that I gave you
     
    You said about parrots. I need to repeat like a parrot because I was uncertain if you understand the concept I am explaining. From posting the last paper, it seems it was correct to be uncertain.

    The paper concludes there is an "association" which is the correlation we have been discussing so they say cardio-respiratory fitness can be a diagnostic for mortality. To be a good diagnostic, the direction is health -> cardiovascular fitness.


    right there you have a group of PhDs giving a formal and rigorous answer to the very questions you keep repeating for several weeks

     

    Your credentialism is surprising because the problem is many of the authors of these papers seem to not have formal education in the inference parts of their papers. They are do inferences which they don't have the education level to understand. Some of them don't always understand the implications the tests they choose from the software menu.

    In this last paper unlike an earlier one you posted, they understand they cannot say much so and conclude modestly there is an association and this association can be diagnostic. Although some of their writing inside about exercise recommendations is not supported, it contradicts the logic of using fitness as a diagnostic which is their conclusion


    37 cohort studies where the authors had controlled for confounding factors like existence of illness and risk factors (page 8) and used sophisticated methods to avoid reverse-causation bias (pages 9, 14).
    After excluding the studies that
     
    "Sophisticated method" is to exclude "those with ≤5 years of follow-up". Health is a continuum and not dying within 5 years doesn't indicate absence of reverse causation.

    Specifically, in the video I showed you Professor Calbet explains the results of the mating experiments with mice selected for a genetically high vo2max

     

    This could only support "reverse causation" explanation of the correlation.

    Of course, 99.9% of the respondents would choose the second guy. For some strange reason, you keep insisting that there is no reason to give that common sense answer.

     

    You still don't understand the point. This "folk belief" would support reverse causation.

    Let's say, your grandparents were horse farmers. When you stress test them for cardio respiratory fitness, one of their horses runs around the farm. Another horse collapses after a minute.

    Which will they believe is more likely to die soon?

    Is the folk belief because "we haven't made the horse do enough exercise"? Or is it because "the energy of the horse is result of how healthy they are?".

    -

    With the mice. If you want to have more energic children of mice, you would choose the mice with more energetic parents. Does this imply "we should make the mice run more on the wheel"? Or does this imply "mice running more on wheel is symptom mice being more healthy"?

    hey used the following techniques to address that question and many more that could introduce bias in the cohort studies and compromise the quality of the evidence:


    GRADE (Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation)
    PRISMA and MOOSE guidelines
    Cochrane Risk of Bias in Non-randomised Studies (ROBINS-I)
    Begg’s funnel plots
    Egger’s regression symmetry test
    Stata module metaninf
    Duval and Tweedie’s nonparametric trim-and-fill method

    I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools but… are you? Reply honestly and explain why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.
     

    Actually I watched some of the Cochrane videos on YouTube when they explain these.

    The paper is meta analysis. GRADE and ROBINS-I are software to check different aspects like the papers are not hiding results.

    The funnel plots/Egger's are designed to check the researchers are not doing publication bias.

    metaninf is a module in Stata. It sounds like it retrieves information about the proportion of influence of each study in the final.

    metaninf is a command in the software which finds the contribution of a study to the final result. This is related to the topic I was explaining to Yahya a few months ago, when he became pretty angry.

    Metaanalysis often is to view not each study as equally weighted, but the participants in the study. In terns of the discussion about "correlation between IQ test results and economic history", then our analysis would be a lot more influenced by China than by Norway, because many more "partipants" in the study.


    why they are insufficient to assess the quality of the evidence presented in all these peer-reviewed papers.

     

    None of those are relevant to our discussion. The meta-analysis is testing if there is a correlation. The problem in some of the papers is not about the existence of the correlation. It's in the inference about causation.

    This is just pure ignorance. As it happens, I have done both a VO2max test and a stress test in the past. They both measure very different things.

     

    You don't know the concept of "stress testing"?

    It's one of the most common things in engineering. Most of the products you buy have been stress tested. Sometimes they are doing load testing to understand the modes of failure.

    In animal, V02 max would be example of doing stress testing of the animal on a part of their system.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_testing_(software)


    medicine doctor and just by coincidence, we were discussing the differences between both tests not long ago. VO2 max tests cannot be used to diagnose any illness.
     
    Vo2 max testing could be used to diagnose absence of many illnesses if you wanted. You would just need enough sample of the falling V02 max at different stages of the illness.

    Nonsense. There are some good reasons to avoid extreme forms of exercise if you are untrained but the CDC doesn’t say “just avoid extreme physical inactivity” at all.

     

    The CDC guideline you transcribed just said “just avoid extreme physical inactivity”. If you are less than their guideline you are only doing extreme physical inactivity.

    The longevity field is not about finding drugs that increase lifespan. It’s composed by the scientists that study the biological mechanisms of again and development. I

     

    The "longevity field" is a YouTube marketing term. It's not an academic field. There is nowhere in the university to study the longevity field with "Professor of longevity".

    The words "longevity field" are false marketing for consumers because it contains an implication that there are "longevity solutions". As we know, there are not validated "longevity" drugs or treatments.


    be amused by a software engineer proclaiming

     

    You have contradictory expressions about computer scientists.

    In the same comment, you were posting work of software engineers while saying "I am not familiar with all these sophisticated tools", like you were happy about the people have been doing the main work in the paper - software engineers who made those tools that does the difficult work in their paper.


    Nobel laureates) would not be amused by a software engineer proclaiming that their field of study does not exist.
     
    If they have Nobel prize, then their field of study is chemistry, medicine, physics, economics.

    one cannot believe anything they say is not a useful criticism. There’s no information there for me to reevaluate anything I thought previously.

     

    As I understand you still didn't understand the concept. Maybe this time we will be lucky?

    we are direct descendants of hunter-gatherers. Our species evolved for hundreds of thousands of years to do physical exercise in order to survive and descends from prior species that had been doing the same for millions of years

     

    These naturalistic arguments don't make sense for a few reasons.

    1. After reproduction age, almost all selection was over.* The selective pressures on our current genetics were almost all until the end of reproduction age.

    While you are talking about exercise extending the lifespan of people who are over the age of reproduction, which were already outside selection.

    2. Animals have longer life expectancy in captivity than in the wild. Chimpanzees live longer in the zoo than in the jungle. Humans have much longer life expectancy now than their ancestors.

    So, the idea of societies where people live longer than their ancestors, will copy the ancestors to live longer, doesn't make sense unless you believe some Biblical mythology.

    3. There is a lot of controversy in archelogical if humans had fire for most of their evolution, as the archelogical evidence is mixed even for something which has real evidence that shows on the ground.

    This view we would know how much ancient humans were exercising is not correct. We don't know how much exercise they were doing. At some times, probably reproductively successful groups were doing less exercise than the unsuccessful ones, in other epochs it would change.

    4. What timeslice of evolution is relevant? Most of our systems were evolved by non-human ancestors, who would have different levels of activity during the reproductive portion of their life.



    -

    * If we wanted to effective selectively breed animal for better aging, we would prevent them from reproducing until end of the age of reproduction, until a high proportion are not able to reproduct. This would be extending the proportion of the animals' lifetime which is exposed to selective pressure which is the reproductive phase.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel, @Mikel

    Your credentialism is surprising

    Saying that you don’t have a clue on exercise physiology, especially compared to the world experts in exercise physiology, is not credentialism. That’s like you claiming that you know more than me on computer science and me arguing that that’s credentialism.

    The meta-analysis is testing if there is a correlation.

    No, the meta-analysis is testing if the evidence in the papers they examined is strong enough after excluding signs of reverse causation, publication bias and a host of other methodological problems, as I explained giving you the exact pages where they describe their methods. You may ignore it because you’re too proud to admit that you’re mistaken but it’s still there.

    You don’t know the concept of “stress testing”?

    I don’t care about the “concept of stress testing”. We’re discussing cardio-respiratory fitness and in cardiology a stress test has a very specific meaning that you seem to know nothing about.

    Vo2 max testing could be used to diagnose absence of many illnesses if you wanted.

    No, you can’t diagnose any illness with a vo2max test. There are some illnesses that can prevent you from even doing a vo2max test but it would be insane to use the inability to do a vo2max test to diagnose the existence of those illnesses when there are direct and safe methods to test for them.

    The “longevity field” is a YouTube marketing term. It’s not an academic field.

    That’s like saying that the econometrics field is a youtube marketing field because all econometricians belong to the field of economics or traumatology is a youtube marketing field because all traumatologists belong to the medicine field.

    There is nowhere in the university to study the longevity field with “Professor of longevity”.

    A quick Google search returns a plethora of results:

    University of Southern California – Longevity Institute
    Florida state University – Institute for Successful Longevity
    Northwestern University – Potocsnak Longevity Institute
    University of Washington – Healthy Aging and Longevity (HALO) Research Institute

    I could carry on but what for? Once again, just because you have no clue on business cycles it doesn’t mean that economists are not going to carry on investigating them. And just because you don’t have a clue on the biological mechanisms of aging, it doesn’t mean that hundreds of scientists are not going to spend their lives studying them.

    Not only do longevity scientists exist. You’re actually paying their research with your taxes lol. Most of their research is carried out via public grants.

    you were happy about the people have been doing the main work in the paper – software engineers who made those tools that does the difficult work in their paper.

    LOL. Computer scientists didn’t invent statistics. On the contrary, statisticians had to teach some software engineers part of their discipline so that they could develop tools like Excel and R to make computation and visual tools much faster. In fact, most of these tools were actually developed directly by mathematicians that learned to code rather than other way around. I have worked with IT engineers for many years now and they are pretty clueless outside of their field of expertise. I definitely learned much more statistics for my economics degree that they ever did and I would categorize my statistical knowledge as modest to mediocre.

    While you are talking about exercise extending the lifespan of people who are over the age of reproduction, which were already outside selection.

    It doesn’t matter in the slightest. You’re not thinking with clarity here. Evolution doesn’t care about the individual past the reproductive age (which in human males is very long). But it cares a lot about fitness during reproductive age and it just so happens that (as everybody knows) fitness allows you to live longer.

    So, the idea of societies where people live longer than their ancestors, will copy the ancestors to live longer, doesn’t make sense unless you believe some Biblical mythology.

    It’s actually the idea that you can atrophy the organs that nature gave you though lack of use and stay healthy that is pure voodoo magic thinking.

    There is a lot of controversy in archelogical if humans had fire for most of their evolution

    There is exactly zero controversy on that matter. I hope you meant to say hominids instead of humans but even if it’s just a mistaken term, what does it say about your general scientific knowledge that you can confuse humans with hominids?

    At some times, probably reproductively successful groups were doing less exercise than the unsuccessful ones

    Successful groups may have been able to enjoy periods of lower physical activity than the less successful ones but up until very recently in human evolution life was harsh enough for the principle of “survival of the fittest” to apply to humans just as much as to any other species. A pride of successful lions will also enjoy periods of lower physical activity than the ones living on the margins of the hunting grounds but that doesn’t mean that lions that become atrophied and unable to run for a prey have higher life expectancy.

  621. @Mikhail
    @Mikel

    My running days are long done.

    I like the PowerMill escalator motion stair climber, not to be confused with the StairMaster stepper having the up/down motion. The latter burns calories but doesn't do much muscular wise. On the former, I can do 5 minutes at level 25 manual with 2-3 minutes rest 4-8 times.

    Life fitness gym bike 97.5 RPM average on manual at level 14 of 20, up to an hour straight or broken in intervals. Will periodically do five minutes @ 100 - 110 RPM. Jacob's Ladder, Cybex Elliptical and swimming are the other options. I prefer walking at a leisurely 3.5 miles and hour but have gone 4.5.

    Best to structure these activities on different days along with some weight training 2-4 days a week. Abs and obliques can be done daily. As an example, one day can be weights, bike, stair-climber and walking. The next day can be elliptical, swimming and Jacob's Ladder.

    I've a Trek FX-1 hybrid, which I want to have upgraded for greater resistance at top gear. Might get a road bike instead. FX-1 is comfy.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Greasy William

    Sounds like you have some very complete routines. Similar to Attia’s but the freak spends something like an hour a day doing stability motions. It makes you wonder what he wants to live a long life for. I would miss exercising outdoors with that type of indoor-heavy routines. Up until recently I didn’t even compute health as a factor, I hiked and ran for fun. My lifting days (the unlucky days of the week for me) were for aesthetics most of all. But I know some people love pumping iron. I guess it all depends on what you get used to at an early age. Eventually it all becomes addictive because exercise releases lots of endorphins but I can’t imagine a bigger release than going all out in the middle of nature.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mikel

    The gym and swim facility I frequent have a great crew of folks, making it more enjoyable. The idea is to make it a part of life and not your whole life, unless one really prefers such. As we get older, bone density becomes an issue. That's where a weight training regimen will help.

    Looking forward to walking on the beach. I did the park yesterday. A diverse exercise regimen helps break up the monotony and leads to better all around conditioning.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Mikel


    I can’t imagine a bigger release than going all out in the middle of nature.
     
    It's hard to beat the fresh air and sunshine that one finds exercising outdoors. I even prefer swimming outdoors than indoors for these reasons.

    Replies: @Mikel

  622. @AP
    @Beckow


    You are reading me wrong. It is a tragedy, but it is happening so one might as well get something out of it.
     
    In your case, entertainment.

    You are a very sick person.


    I have noticed you have gone from “offensive to take back Crimea!” (I am exaggerating!) to predicting a stalemate.
     
    I have always said the most likely result will be a stalemate, with a smaller than 50% chance that the Ukrainians break through in the South.

    The chance of a Ukrainian breakthrough would be close to zero if the Americans walked away. Now it is back.


    It is unlikely it will end in a stalemate
     
    Do you think that the Russians will be able to capture Kharkiv (population 1.5 million, huge tunnels well-fortified after 2 years of war) or Zaporizhia (population 1 million, also well-fortified) or cross the bridgeless Dnipro river to retake Kherson, capture Mikolaiv (well-fortified, population 500,000) en route to taking Odessa (population 1 million)? Remember how long and with how many deaths it took to take Avdiivka (population 30,000).

    Conversely, there is no way that Ukraine could storm and take large cities like Donetsk or Horlivka.

    So the ultimate lines will be somewhere between these cities. Maybe Russia takes the rest of mostly rural Donbas still controlled by Ukraine, or retakes eastern Kharkiv province, or moves north from the Crimean corridor to the very gates of Zaporizhia. Maybe Ukraine moves south and retakes the Crimean corridor. From there, Crimea itself (at least the northern areas) becomes a possibility. Probably another 100,00o troops on each side would die in these attempts. But nobody is going to sacrifice 400,000+ killed or so for a "total victory" in the East and South by capturing the large well-fortified and hostile cities. It is not really the 1940s any more.

    Beyond the battlefield, both sides will probably inflict a lot of damage on each country's civilian infrastructure. This can be worse for Russia, which has much colder and deadlier winters than Ukraine does, with less opportunity to resettle civilians (Ukrainians can move West, where will millions in the Volga region go when they lose heating and electricity and it is -30 outside. Novosibirsk cnn't handle that many).

    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.


    This is cultural gold, people will talk about it for decades. (Not the Ukies, they will be mostly gone
     
    If the Ukrainians are "mostly gone" they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

    But fortunately it won't come to that, because there will be stalemate of some kind.


    I hope it doesn’t end next year…the lesson has to be thorough
     
    I know you don't. It's the kind of person you are.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Cesar1191

    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.

    Hopefully the war ends soon, but unfortunately, that may be overly optimistic. It seems plausible that unless Russia suffers some kind of economic or political collapse, or Ukraine has some major battlefield victories and is able to credibly threaten Crimea, Russia may just continue.

    It’s important to think about incentives here.

    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it’s probably not 2025.

    Russia has lost too much, Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it. Furthermore, Putin does not want to see a free and secure Ukraine prospering like its neighbor, so if he fails to conquer Ukraine, the incentive for him is to make Ukraine a failed state in a permanent state of insecurity, over which Russia can continually exercise power or threaten with a new invasion. This is why it will likely be difficult to get a deal from Putin that includes Ukraine’s right to join NATO, unless one of the two scenarios above ends up happening.

    Then it is also important to think about the incentives for Ukraine here. The Ukrainian government may want Crimea and Donbas back, but much more than that, they want a guarantee that Russia will not invade again. If Ukraine signs a bad deal, which leaves the country vulnerable to another invasion or constant threats to Russia, it’s going to be really difficult to attract foreign direct investment into Ukraine, and it’s going to be really difficult to convince Ukrainians not to emigrate if the country ends in a permanent state of poverty and insecurity.

    Of course, the Ukrainian government may end up signing a bad deal if they are left with no other option, whether because the lines are collapsing and the Russian military is advancing or because they have reached some hard limit on their resources, they may end up not having a choice, but as long as they have choices, they will choose to fight for a good deal. This is because they know, that depending on the agreement they sign, it could mean long-term success or failure of Ukraine.

    If the Ukrainians are “mostly gone” they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

    I’m not 100% sure about Slovakia, but Ukrainian immigrants are quite popular in almost every country in Europe, polls always show this. Western European countries are especially excited to receive good immigrants, as a counterbalance to all the terrible immigrants they received, and the truth is that Ukrainians, like most European immigrants, will intermarry with the locals, learn the local language and become indistinguishable from the natives of the countries where they go.

    This situation is a double-edged sword for Ukraine. On the one hand, it’s a good thing that Ukrainian children have a place to go, and that in general, Ukrainians are not trapped between an expansionist Russia and a hard border with no one on the other side to accept them. On the other hand, this means that the Ukrainian government will have to compete with the West for its own citizens, and obviously that is not fair, given the West’s advantages, and the fact that Russia is attacking Ukraine.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Cesar1191

    This is ridiculous. The West is using Ukraine to pressure Russia. Russia knows if they back off in Ukraine the West will increase pressure in new ways.

    The West will keep going until Ukraine is completely destroyed and then move on to the next project. The only way to make this better is for Ukraine to execute their own sellouts and morons who made this happen. Russia will keep grinding until this happens or until the job is done. Since the West is obviously doing this to hurt Russia it makes the internal political structure in Russia stronger. Decoupling from the West is strengthening the Russian economy as well, so it seems probable that this state of affairs will continue until the West gives up or the dollar implodes, whichever occurs first.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Cesar1191


    Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it.
     
    Any idea what that may be? So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.

    Since you don't bring up the possibility of Russia subduing Ukraine, it appears that you think that this is not a realistic possibility at this point?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Cesar1191, @John Johnson

    , @AP
    @Cesar1191

    An excellent and thoughtful comment. I agree with most of it but not all.


    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it’s probably not 2025.
     
    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk. Russia will and should bluster that it has endless numbers of soldiers so the war is hopeless for Ukraine - but if that were really true, Russia would have done mass societal mobilisation last year. It hasn’t.

    Ukraine, too, does not have an infinite number of willing soldiers although their number is higher because they are defending their homelands.

    I’m guessing that both sides have enough in them to continue fighting into 2025, but both sides will get “fatigued” after that. They could keep going, they would have series of increasingly unpopular partial mobilisations to replenish numbers somewhat, but it would be much more difficult.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.

    You are correct that no peace for Ukrainians would be acceptable if there were not significant security. And Russia (barring a collapse or a change of leadership) would not walk away with nothing. A reasonable outcome would be EU and/or NATO for Ukraine (or if not the latter, some binding treaty with the US, UK, France, or other country like South Korea has with the USA)* and rebuilding funds, in exchange for territorial concessions that would reflect the front lines in 2025, and dropping of sanctions that would produce a strong spurt of real economic growth in Russia.

    * Or a very deadly Ukrainian deterrent such as nukes or large arsenal of long-range missiles

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Cesar1191

  623. @John Johnson
    Boy Putin better hope this is not true:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RrkCCdNNyA

    1000 long range ATACMs?

    https://i.imgflip.com/34gvnx.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    Bringing a bunch of western missiles into Ukraine seems like a bad omen for Kiev. Maybe they should leave the missiles in Poland or just send them back to North America. This could save a great many Ukrainian lives.

    Without seeing hard numbers I guess that Ukraine has less than 20 major power plants left operational. Once Russia takes these out there will be no reason for any civilians to stay. Then Russia can invoke total war on the AFU. This is the blessing which the ATACMS will bring to the country. This destruction will not help the slavs at all, but it may be what the (((western))) puppet masters desire.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    This is the blessing which the ATACMS will bring to the country. This destruction will not help the slavs at all, but it may be what the (((western))) puppet masters desire.

    Your desire is for the Ukrainians to submit to Russian rule, correct? Even though they would like to remain Ukrainian and select their own leaders?

    Did you watch the newest Vice video on Russia?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnFtnDa_Oo

    Replies: @QCIC

  624. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.

     

    Hopefully the war ends soon, but unfortunately, that may be overly optimistic. It seems plausible that unless Russia suffers some kind of economic or political collapse, or Ukraine has some major battlefield victories and is able to credibly threaten Crimea, Russia may just continue.

    It's important to think about incentives here.

    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it's probably not 2025.

    Russia has lost too much, Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it. Furthermore, Putin does not want to see a free and secure Ukraine prospering like its neighbor, so if he fails to conquer Ukraine, the incentive for him is to make Ukraine a failed state in a permanent state of insecurity, over which Russia can continually exercise power or threaten with a new invasion. This is why it will likely be difficult to get a deal from Putin that includes Ukraine's right to join NATO, unless one of the two scenarios above ends up happening.

    Then it is also important to think about the incentives for Ukraine here. The Ukrainian government may want Crimea and Donbas back, but much more than that, they want a guarantee that Russia will not invade again. If Ukraine signs a bad deal, which leaves the country vulnerable to another invasion or constant threats to Russia, it's going to be really difficult to attract foreign direct investment into Ukraine, and it's going to be really difficult to convince Ukrainians not to emigrate if the country ends in a permanent state of poverty and insecurity.

    Of course, the Ukrainian government may end up signing a bad deal if they are left with no other option, whether because the lines are collapsing and the Russian military is advancing or because they have reached some hard limit on their resources, they may end up not having a choice, but as long as they have choices, they will choose to fight for a good deal. This is because they know, that depending on the agreement they sign, it could mean long-term success or failure of Ukraine.

    If the Ukrainians are “mostly gone” they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

     

    I'm not 100% sure about Slovakia, but Ukrainian immigrants are quite popular in almost every country in Europe, polls always show this. Western European countries are especially excited to receive good immigrants, as a counterbalance to all the terrible immigrants they received, and the truth is that Ukrainians, like most European immigrants, will intermarry with the locals, learn the local language and become indistinguishable from the natives of the countries where they go.

    This situation is a double-edged sword for Ukraine. On the one hand, it's a good thing that Ukrainian children have a place to go, and that in general, Ukrainians are not trapped between an expansionist Russia and a hard border with no one on the other side to accept them. On the other hand, this means that the Ukrainian government will have to compete with the West for its own citizens, and obviously that is not fair, given the West's advantages, and the fact that Russia is attacking Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    This is ridiculous. The West is using Ukraine to pressure Russia. Russia knows if they back off in Ukraine the West will increase pressure in new ways.

    The West will keep going until Ukraine is completely destroyed and then move on to the next project. The only way to make this better is for Ukraine to execute their own sellouts and morons who made this happen. Russia will keep grinding until this happens or until the job is done. Since the West is obviously doing this to hurt Russia it makes the internal political structure in Russia stronger. Decoupling from the West is strengthening the Russian economy as well, so it seems probable that this state of affairs will continue until the West gives up or the dollar implodes, whichever occurs first.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Decoupling from the West is strengthening the Russian economy as well

    How do we know this is the case?

    Putin is taking oil cash and dumping it into military spending.

    Yes it technically expands the GDP but at the same time he is putting holes in the economy that cannot be replaced. They've lost Western tourism, Western computer chips and Western parts for all kinds of industries. I was called a Jew at the start of the war for pointing out that the Chinese cannot replace every part but this has proven to be the case. If a business depends on some advanced piece of German machinery the Russians can't just call Chang to get a part.

    You can end up with a situation where runaway inflation takes over even as the government points at how the GDP is growing. The people look at prices and choose to hold onto their wallets. Building a thousand BMPs with oil cash doesn't fix the underlying economy.

    We really don't know the state of the Russian economy just as we don't know their actual losses in the war. They're a closed society that answers to Putin.

    so it seems probable that this state of affairs will continue until the West gives up or the dollar implodes, whichever occurs first.

    Putin's fans declared the dollar to be doomed at the start of the war and it finished ahead of both the Euro and the Ruble.

    It seems every year that someone decrees it to be the last year of the dollar.

    Happy annual dollar is doomed day.

    Replies: @QCIC

  625. @Mikel
    @Mikhail

    Sounds like you have some very complete routines. Similar to Attia's but the freak spends something like an hour a day doing stability motions. It makes you wonder what he wants to live a long life for. I would miss exercising outdoors with that type of indoor-heavy routines. Up until recently I didn't even compute health as a factor, I hiked and ran for fun. My lifting days (the unlucky days of the week for me) were for aesthetics most of all. But I know some people love pumping iron. I guess it all depends on what you get used to at an early age. Eventually it all becomes addictive because exercise releases lots of endorphins but I can't imagine a bigger release than going all out in the middle of nature.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

    The gym and swim facility I frequent have a great crew of folks, making it more enjoyable. The idea is to make it a part of life and not your whole life, unless one really prefers such. As we get older, bone density becomes an issue. That’s where a weight training regimen will help.

    Looking forward to walking on the beach. I did the park yesterday. A diverse exercise regimen helps break up the monotony and leads to better all around conditioning.

    • Agree: Mikel
  626. @Mikhail
    @Mikel

    My running days are long done.

    I like the PowerMill escalator motion stair climber, not to be confused with the StairMaster stepper having the up/down motion. The latter burns calories but doesn't do much muscular wise. On the former, I can do 5 minutes at level 25 manual with 2-3 minutes rest 4-8 times.

    Life fitness gym bike 97.5 RPM average on manual at level 14 of 20, up to an hour straight or broken in intervals. Will periodically do five minutes @ 100 - 110 RPM. Jacob's Ladder, Cybex Elliptical and swimming are the other options. I prefer walking at a leisurely 3.5 miles and hour but have gone 4.5.

    Best to structure these activities on different days along with some weight training 2-4 days a week. Abs and obliques can be done daily. As an example, one day can be weights, bike, stair-climber and walking. The next day can be elliptical, swimming and Jacob's Ladder.

    I've a Trek FX-1 hybrid, which I want to have upgraded for greater resistance at top gear. Might get a road bike instead. FX-1 is comfy.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Greasy William

    My running days are long done.

    I thought that Russians thought that running was “gay”?

  627. Would like to see the genetic distance of media calculated. My suspicion would be that Turkish TV, news, and movies would be closer to the British than most British stuff, if the number represented a weighted average.

    Not an endorsement to watch either.

    IMO, these are the sort of things that AI could and should do – help estimate these numbers. IMO, it wouldn’t be that hard to do, esp. for single show comparisons.

  628. Did they get rid of Humza Yousaf because he supported Palestinians or something?

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird

    They got rid of him because he hates white people. (1)

    One wonders how he was elected.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/watch-in-full-humza-yousafs-white-people-speech-that-has-sparked-racism-complaints-under-scotlands-new-hate-crime-law-4578704

    Replies: @songbird

  629. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.

     

    Hopefully the war ends soon, but unfortunately, that may be overly optimistic. It seems plausible that unless Russia suffers some kind of economic or political collapse, or Ukraine has some major battlefield victories and is able to credibly threaten Crimea, Russia may just continue.

    It's important to think about incentives here.

    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it's probably not 2025.

    Russia has lost too much, Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it. Furthermore, Putin does not want to see a free and secure Ukraine prospering like its neighbor, so if he fails to conquer Ukraine, the incentive for him is to make Ukraine a failed state in a permanent state of insecurity, over which Russia can continually exercise power or threaten with a new invasion. This is why it will likely be difficult to get a deal from Putin that includes Ukraine's right to join NATO, unless one of the two scenarios above ends up happening.

    Then it is also important to think about the incentives for Ukraine here. The Ukrainian government may want Crimea and Donbas back, but much more than that, they want a guarantee that Russia will not invade again. If Ukraine signs a bad deal, which leaves the country vulnerable to another invasion or constant threats to Russia, it's going to be really difficult to attract foreign direct investment into Ukraine, and it's going to be really difficult to convince Ukrainians not to emigrate if the country ends in a permanent state of poverty and insecurity.

    Of course, the Ukrainian government may end up signing a bad deal if they are left with no other option, whether because the lines are collapsing and the Russian military is advancing or because they have reached some hard limit on their resources, they may end up not having a choice, but as long as they have choices, they will choose to fight for a good deal. This is because they know, that depending on the agreement they sign, it could mean long-term success or failure of Ukraine.

    If the Ukrainians are “mostly gone” they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

     

    I'm not 100% sure about Slovakia, but Ukrainian immigrants are quite popular in almost every country in Europe, polls always show this. Western European countries are especially excited to receive good immigrants, as a counterbalance to all the terrible immigrants they received, and the truth is that Ukrainians, like most European immigrants, will intermarry with the locals, learn the local language and become indistinguishable from the natives of the countries where they go.

    This situation is a double-edged sword for Ukraine. On the one hand, it's a good thing that Ukrainian children have a place to go, and that in general, Ukrainians are not trapped between an expansionist Russia and a hard border with no one on the other side to accept them. On the other hand, this means that the Ukrainian government will have to compete with the West for its own citizens, and obviously that is not fair, given the West's advantages, and the fact that Russia is attacking Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it.

    Any idea what that may be? So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.

    Since you don’t bring up the possibility of Russia subduing Ukraine, it appears that you think that this is not a realistic possibility at this point?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.
     
    Really? Let's see: 20% of Ukraine with all of Azov sea, 1/3 of chernozem - most valuable long-term Ukie asset.

    Don't fool yourself, Russia already got a lot and will take more. It is a disaster for long-term viability of Ukraine: it has dropped from one of the main Euro nations with enormous potential to a poor destroyed mid-size country below Romania.

    1991: 51 million people and great industry and agriculture.
    2024: 25-30 million with destroyed industry, lost farming lands, living off charity and 'loans' - salaries and pensions paid fully by Euro-US aid.

    Plus losing the Crimea jewel and a few hundred thousand Ukie men. Who is the loser here?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Cesar1191
    @Mr. Hack


    Any idea what that may be? So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.

     

    I'm not sure the Russians know. At this point it seems clear that Russia wants to take as much territory as possible, it's not clear if they have any grand plans after that. Maybe they still believe that they can conquer all of Ukraine, that would be the best outcome for them, at least on paper, because in reality most Ukrainians would see this coming and would probably just move to Europe. Russia has probably already lost the chance to absorb the Ukrainian population.

    The second best option for Russia, assuming taking all of Ukraine is not possible, would be for the Russians to force Ukraine to sign an agreement that would leave Ukraine isolated and vulnerable to future Russian moves. As I wrote, Russia has a incentive to destroy Ukraine's long-term development if they can't take the country and if Ukraine can't force them to back down.

    Since you don’t bring up the possibility of Russia subduing Ukraine, it appears that you think that this is not a realistic possibility at this point?

     

    Russia dominating Ukraine, whether through direct conquest or an agreement that leaves Ukraine isolated and vulnerable to future attacks, is a very realistic possibility, especially if the West does not help Ukraine. We've seen the US cut off aid to Ukraine for many months because weird right-wingers online didn't want Ukraine to receive aid. What will the US political situation be in 2025? If Trump wins, Ukraine could end up getting nothing for the next four years. So, the burden will fall on Europe. Is Europe increasing its production of artillery and other military items? Supposedly, they are, and some people say that by 2025 or 2026, Europe will be producing everything that Ukraine needs, we'll see if that will end up being true, because 2024 was and will still be a real disappointment in terms of Europe having failed to increase its capabilities to support Ukraine.
    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    Beckow now wants us to measure the war by % of land taken.

    So they told us it wasn't Russian Imperialism but we now need to re-measure the war by how much land Russia has taken from its neighbor through violence.

    Got it.

    I really think backing the 2.5 week special military operation now on year 2.5 is really going to work out for Putin's defenders. It was clearly a great idea and can only get better from this point on.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  630. @John Johnson
    Boy Putin better hope this is not true:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RrkCCdNNyA

    1000 long range ATACMs?

    https://i.imgflip.com/34gvnx.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    A half dozen or more patriot systems would come in handy too. Germany recently pledged to provide one of these systems. The US needs to man up and provide some of these systems too.

    • LOL: Mikhail
  631. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Bringing a bunch of western missiles into Ukraine seems like a bad omen for Kiev. Maybe they should leave the missiles in Poland or just send them back to North America. This could save a great many Ukrainian lives.

    Without seeing hard numbers I guess that Ukraine has less than 20 major power plants left operational. Once Russia takes these out there will be no reason for any civilians to stay. Then Russia can invoke total war on the AFU. This is the blessing which the ATACMS will bring to the country. This destruction will not help the slavs at all, but it may be what the (((western))) puppet masters desire.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    This is the blessing which the ATACMS will bring to the country. This destruction will not help the slavs at all, but it may be what the (((western))) puppet masters desire.

    Your desire is for the Ukrainians to submit to Russian rule, correct? Even though they would like to remain Ukrainian and select their own leaders?

    Did you watch the newest Vice video on Russia?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Ukraine should have found a way to stay neutral. Everything else follows. This was not complicated. The West expected that Russia would get militarily involved after the provocations including the Maidan coup and gradual military interconnection of Ukraine with NATO. This was a long process. I assume the Russian government gave public warnings along the way as Western meddling increased. Wise Ukrainians who wanted to heed these warnings and find another path were probably silenced by Ukrainian thugs funded by Western money.

    Is there a crucial segment to the long video?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  632. @songbird
    Did they get rid of Humza Yousaf because he supported Palestinians or something?

    Replies: @A123

    They got rid of him because he hates white people. (1)

    One wonders how he was elected.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/watch-in-full-humza-yousafs-white-people-speech-that-has-sparked-racism-complaints-under-scotlands-new-hate-crime-law-4578704

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123


    They got rid of him because he hates white people.
     
    Wouldn't explain why Sunak is still in. Or the guy in Wales or why it took so long to get rid of the guy in Ireland. Or why there are all those non-PoC leaders who would say similar things.

    They selected him AFTER he made that speech, not BEFORE. It was a well-known speech. The fact that people were calling the police to report it after they passed the hate-speech law, years after he made it, demonstrates it was very well-known.

    One wonders how he was elected.
     
    I don't believe he was elected PM, but rather selected by inner party politics. PoCs receive less criticism due to political correctness, so become consensus candidates.

    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke? ( inner party politics, purges, bribes), or why voters continue to vote for them? (Low information, lack of alternatives)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Matra

  633. Birthplaces of NHL players from N. America.

    (Also map of where Molson spends its ad budget.)

  634. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    This is the blessing which the ATACMS will bring to the country. This destruction will not help the slavs at all, but it may be what the (((western))) puppet masters desire.

    Your desire is for the Ukrainians to submit to Russian rule, correct? Even though they would like to remain Ukrainian and select their own leaders?

    Did you watch the newest Vice video on Russia?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnFtnDa_Oo

    Replies: @QCIC

    Ukraine should have found a way to stay neutral. Everything else follows. This was not complicated. The West expected that Russia would get militarily involved after the provocations including the Maidan coup and gradual military interconnection of Ukraine with NATO. This was a long process. I assume the Russian government gave public warnings along the way as Western meddling increased. Wise Ukrainians who wanted to heed these warnings and find another path were probably silenced by Ukrainian thugs funded by Western money.

    Is there a crucial segment to the long video?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Ukraine should have found a way to stay neutral.

    They chose to not elect the pro-NATO candidate in favor of Zelensky.

    Zelensky ran on a neutral platform and had no plans to join NATO.

    That isn't enough? What else should they have done?

    Your desire is for the Ukrainians to submit to Russian rule, correct?

    Why do you have a hard time plainly stating that the Ukrainians do not want to submit to Russian rule?

    Is there a crucial segment to the long video?

    Is shows what life is like in totalitarian Russia. Do you think most Russians want to live in a country where a protestor was anally raped with a flashlight by the police?

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC

  635. @AP
    @Beckow


    There were maybe a thousand people there in a city of half a million
     
    So you claim.

    Everywhere else claims 2,000-3,000 on the square and a few thousand on adjacent streets. For example:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    around 2000 individuals amassing at Hviezdoslav Square and thousands more occupying the adjacent streets.


    You can see that the pictures – if that crowd is more than 500 people
     
    So was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.

    Looks like more than 500 on the square in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22U4zjrcZHU

    Should we believe you, who first claimed only a few old ladies demonstrated before then claiming you and several others were there, or should we believe the Slovak government, Britannica, etc.


    Your “quotes” don’t say anything. They are just in typical propaganda
     
    Oh and you don't write typical Socialist propaganda?

    using a few big words and alluding to bad stuff
     
    Is "brutal" a big word?

    And what do you mean by “detained”?
     
    What do you think that means?

    There was nobody actually arrested,
     
    Britannica:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Candle-Demonstration

    During this so-called “Candle Demonstration” in Bratislava, thousands of Slovaks quietly held burning candles to show their support for religious freedom and human rights. Police dispersed the demonstration with water cannons and made numerous arrests.

    https://kafkadesk.org/2023/03/23/on-this-day-in-1988-the-candle-demonstration-shook-czechoslovakias-communist-regime-one-year-before-the-velvet-revolution/

    Over 120 people were detained, and many were injured by the police

    Slovak government:

    https://mzv.sk/en/web/en/slovakia/history/the-candle-demonstration-reminds-slovaks-of-the-power-of-the-people

    Many were hurt. The police and agents spared neither old people nor young girls. They detained more than 100 people, among them accredited foreign journalists.

    Also Slovak government:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    The state police however responded with violence; employing batons and water cannons as well as arrests and interrogations

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    141 citizens were arrested by the security forces;

    14 people were injured during the police crackdown

    Replies: @Beckow

    was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.

    What? At what demo can people precisely tell how many people were there? Are you nuts or just pathologically dishonest? The two sides always estimate the crowds differently. Why is that a “change”?

    You are also repeating mindlessly one-sided propaganda. There were more people watching than participating. Nobody was arrested, if some were ID-ed and issued a ticket that is normal when blocking traffic. The “organizers” mythologized it later and your Western propaganda organs like Wiki, Britannica took the lies and exaggerations and turned them into a bigger lie by skipping context, mislabeling things, using terms they would never use at demos at home.

    One can say that “Macron’s state security brutally suppressed peaceful demonstrations by farmers killing some and arresting thousands…“…Would you agree? That has just happened in France and is a lot closer to the truth than your “candle demo”. I doubt “Britannica” describes it that way. You are an American Idiot obediently regurgitating the official propaganda. You would make a great commie.

    In what you attached is a picture of the annual Sastin pilgrimage that has nothing to do with the “candle demo”. A transparent attempt to beef up the crowds. It is clearly labeled, why do you lie about it?

    What’s the point in you trying to create a fake reality? Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine that all honesty is out of the window? The candle demo was a long time ago, it doesn’t matter, I just happen to have a first-hand experience. But the same technique of lying, exaggerating and omitting key details is what you do with everything. You are a sad case.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine
     
    You keep repeating this nonsense, as if it's true. It's your new mantra and you include it in almost all of your replies these days. By repeating it you think that it might be true, but nothing is further from the truth. You pay no heed that Ukraine has recently been afforded a military package of $61 billion, and other partners are anteing up too (Germany, Australia, Latvia and more). Russia should have conquered Ukraine a long time ago, why hasn't it done so already?

    Replies: @AP

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.

    What? At what demo can people precisely tell how many people were there
     

    First you said only a few of old ladies demonstrated. When this lie was disproven, you made up a new story about demonstrators having fun and planning for water cannons by bringing umbrellas. Another lie - it was raining, that’s why they brought the umbrellas. Then you made up some numbers but couldn’t keep your fake story straight.

    You are also repeating mindlessly one-sided propaganda
     
    Now, that would be you as usual.

    As I explained, you are a midwit who is just smart enough to learn and repeat everything your socialist teachers taught you about history and whatever your socialist media taught you about events. They did not discuss the Underground Catholic Church so for you it didn’t exist. Or you made up stories about crazy street preachers and old ladies. Which fell apart in the face of evidence.


    Nobody was arrested [at the 1988 demonstration]

     

    You keep saying that but your own government and various international sources all state that people were arrested.

    Thank you for your open display of dishonesty.


    Western propaganda organs like Wiki, Britannica

     

    A opposed to “objective” Beckow? lol.

    Here is the Slovak government, if you don’t like “propaganda” sources such as encyclopedias (should we also dismiss dictionaries as “propaganda sources” if they contradict your nonsense?):

    Slovak government:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    The state police however responded with violence; employing batons and water cannons as well as arrests and interrogations

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    141 citizens were arrested by the security forces;

    14 people were injured during the police crackdown


    You are an American Idiot obediently regurgitating the official propaganda

     

    America doesn’t care about and doesn’t produce propaganda concerning Slovakia for its idiots.

    But Euro-lefties and the Russians produce plenty of propaganda for their “idiots.”

    The smarter ones of those, can remember and reproduce a lot of it.

    People like you.


    One can say that “Macron’s

     

    The classic dumb Soviet technique.

    Lie and lie, and when you are caught pivot to “whataboutism.”

    Replies: @Beckow

  636. @Mikel
    @Mikhail

    Sounds like you have some very complete routines. Similar to Attia's but the freak spends something like an hour a day doing stability motions. It makes you wonder what he wants to live a long life for. I would miss exercising outdoors with that type of indoor-heavy routines. Up until recently I didn't even compute health as a factor, I hiked and ran for fun. My lifting days (the unlucky days of the week for me) were for aesthetics most of all. But I know some people love pumping iron. I guess it all depends on what you get used to at an early age. Eventually it all becomes addictive because exercise releases lots of endorphins but I can't imagine a bigger release than going all out in the middle of nature.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Mr. Hack

    I can’t imagine a bigger release than going all out in the middle of nature.

    It’s hard to beat the fresh air and sunshine that one finds exercising outdoors. I even prefer swimming outdoors than indoors for these reasons.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Mr. Hack


    It’s hard to beat the fresh air and sunshine that one finds exercising outdoors.
     
    It's one of those things that is hard to put into words. Indoor exercise can release the same amount of endorphins but it just doesn't have the same general effect on you. It must be connected to those ancestral instincts that get triggered when we go back to what used to be our natural habitats. I have shared all my life with people who weren't interested in nature or exercise but I have a theory that even this kind of people "feel it" in their own way. Who doesn't enjoy a walk by the ocean on a beautiful beach? Some of these very people are capable of spending hours basking in the sun on a beach (which I wouldn't be able to do) and can even spend a whole summer doing barely anything but that. It seems to put them in a sort of trance. Similar mechanisms at play, I think.
  637. @A123
    @songbird

    They got rid of him because he hates white people. (1)

    One wonders how he was elected.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/watch-in-full-humza-yousafs-white-people-speech-that-has-sparked-racism-complaints-under-scotlands-new-hate-crime-law-4578704

    Replies: @songbird

    They got rid of him because he hates white people.

    Wouldn’t explain why Sunak is still in. Or the guy in Wales or why it took so long to get rid of the guy in Ireland. Or why there are all those non-PoC leaders who would say similar things.

    They selected him AFTER he made that speech, not BEFORE. It was a well-known speech. The fact that people were calling the police to report it after they passed the hate-speech law, years after he made it, demonstrates it was very well-known.

    One wonders how he was elected.

    I don’t believe he was elected PM, but rather selected by inner party politics. PoCs receive less criticism due to political correctness, so become consensus candidates.

    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke? ( inner party politics, purges, bribes), or why voters continue to vote for them? (Low information, lack of alternatives)

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird


    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke?
     
    Politicians do whatever the money power tells them to do. Pay attention!
    , @Matra
    @songbird


    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke?
     
    The ScotsNats used to be known as Tartan Tories. They were usually right wing and aggressively Orange Protestant, or at least anti-Catholic. Some time - I'm guessing the 1990s - they started getting some Irish Catholic descendants from the Glasgow area who seemed to be motivated by anti-English sentiment. Wherever in Britain the Irish go - Liverpool being the main example - leftist politics follow. I don't recall former leader Alex Salmond being all that PC, though he was a bit, but as younger more leftist anti-English/British elements joined the party they moved left on social issues, like all other liberal/leftist parties in the completely Americanised Anglosphere. Brexit, perceived as right wing, probably helped push the SNP even more to the left.

    Replies: @songbird

  638. @Beckow
    @AP


    was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.
     
    What? At what demo can people precisely tell how many people were there? Are you nuts or just pathologically dishonest? The two sides always estimate the crowds differently. Why is that a "change"?

    You are also repeating mindlessly one-sided propaganda. There were more people watching than participating. Nobody was arrested, if some were ID-ed and issued a ticket that is normal when blocking traffic. The "organizers" mythologized it later and your Western propaganda organs like Wiki, Britannica took the lies and exaggerations and turned them into a bigger lie by skipping context, mislabeling things, using terms they would never use at demos at home.

    One can say that "Macron's state security brutally suppressed peaceful demonstrations by farmers killing some and arresting thousands..."...Would you agree? That has just happened in France and is a lot closer to the truth than your "candle demo". I doubt "Britannica" describes it that way. You are an American Idiot obediently regurgitating the official propaganda. You would make a great commie.

    In what you attached is a picture of the annual Sastin pilgrimage that has nothing to do with the "candle demo". A transparent attempt to beef up the crowds. It is clearly labeled, why do you lie about it?

    What's the point in you trying to create a fake reality? Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine that all honesty is out of the window? The candle demo was a long time ago, it doesn't matter, I just happen to have a first-hand experience. But the same technique of lying, exaggerating and omitting key details is what you do with everything. You are a sad case.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine

    You keep repeating this nonsense, as if it’s true. It’s your new mantra and you include it in almost all of your replies these days. By repeating it you think that it might be true, but nothing is further from the truth. You pay no heed that Ukraine has recently been afforded a military package of $61 billion, and other partners are anteing up too (Germany, Australia, Latvia and more). Russia should have conquered Ukraine a long time ago, why hasn’t it done so already?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine

    You keep repeating this nonsense, as if it’s true. It’s your new mantra and you include it in almost all of your replies these days
     
    I like AaronB’s interpretation of that as a sort of desperate prayer or invocation. They hope that if they repeat it enough it will become true.

    Imagine that 2 years after invading Iraq, the Americans failed to take Baghdad or any provincial capital, only managed to grab 8% or 9% of the country near the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders, lost a lot of casualties (100,000+ dead) and 1/3 of their ships in the Persian Gulf, while having the Iraqis successfully start and expand a drone-bomb campaign US soil, destroying US factories or oil refineries right at home.

    It would be quite comical for a desperate pro-American to brag that the Iraqis are “losing” because they lost 9% of their territory and some valuable oil wells near the border to the American invaders.

    Does Beckow realize how ridiculous he is? Probably not.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

  639. Interesting thread touching on feminism in the academic world.

    [MORE]

    Would like to see the numbers further broken down into lesbianism, spinsterism (for old female staff), socio-sexual number, and race.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Number of cats in their house + number of neighborhood cats they feed and pretend aren't really their close friends. Have you seen the Sapolsky crazy cat lady theory?

    Replies: @songbird

  640. @QCIC
    @Cesar1191

    This is ridiculous. The West is using Ukraine to pressure Russia. Russia knows if they back off in Ukraine the West will increase pressure in new ways.

    The West will keep going until Ukraine is completely destroyed and then move on to the next project. The only way to make this better is for Ukraine to execute their own sellouts and morons who made this happen. Russia will keep grinding until this happens or until the job is done. Since the West is obviously doing this to hurt Russia it makes the internal political structure in Russia stronger. Decoupling from the West is strengthening the Russian economy as well, so it seems probable that this state of affairs will continue until the West gives up or the dollar implodes, whichever occurs first.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Decoupling from the West is strengthening the Russian economy as well

    How do we know this is the case?

    Putin is taking oil cash and dumping it into military spending.

    Yes it technically expands the GDP but at the same time he is putting holes in the economy that cannot be replaced. They’ve lost Western tourism, Western computer chips and Western parts for all kinds of industries. I was called a Jew at the start of the war for pointing out that the Chinese cannot replace every part but this has proven to be the case. If a business depends on some advanced piece of German machinery the Russians can’t just call Chang to get a part.

    You can end up with a situation where runaway inflation takes over even as the government points at how the GDP is growing. The people look at prices and choose to hold onto their wallets. Building a thousand BMPs with oil cash doesn’t fix the underlying economy.

    We really don’t know the state of the Russian economy just as we don’t know their actual losses in the war. They’re a closed society that answers to Putin.

    so it seems probable that this state of affairs will continue until the West gives up or the dollar implodes, whichever occurs first.

    Putin’s fans declared the dollar to be doomed at the start of the war and it finished ahead of both the Euro and the Ruble.

    It seems every year that someone decrees it to be the last year of the dollar.

    Happy annual dollar is doomed day.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I hope the dollar stays afloat. I think the march of progress around the world somehow allows the USA to run on debt without the rest of the world getting too worried about it. The risk of changing monetary systems seems higher than markets are willing to accept.

    The Russian economy and production chain had so many holes after 1995 that many sectors were barely functional. Many industries were offshored which made it difficult to rebuild and fill the holes. Sanctions began to change this situation starting in 2015. There have been lots of credible reports describing how Russia has very gradually rebuilt her supply chains and productivity. I think the way this will work out is hard to predict since they have limited manpower. To make more with less they need more automation like Germany, Japan or even China. I wonder if they will end up like China being a relatively low cost producer yet with a substantial amount of automation? I think this will take 5 to 10 years, but Russians seem very patient.

    Semiconductor manufacturing seems like the weakest and most backward sector, but they can still buy chips from China. Reportedly Russia can produce her own chips at the 28 nm node which is good enough for many applications other than cell phones and higher performance computers. Most military electronics and industrial controls do not use bleeding edge semiconductors. Russia may be at risk of falling behind in AI since that field is currently metastasizing with fully state-of-the-art chips from NVIDIA. I wonder if Russia will focus more effort on quantum computing technologies since that field is still more wide open?

    Russia consistently builds nuclear reactors, rockets, radars, satellites, ships, submarines, fighter aircraft, helicopters, commercial aircraft, etc. The production rates for all of the big ticket items are low, but not out of line for a country with 150 million people. Surely these products all have some foreign inputs as do similar items in every country. This will lead to more and more import substitution efforts. The growth in these sectors may not translate directly into more tractors, cars, or other mainstream items but I think there is a gradual knock-on effect. As long as they can get the easy stuff from China and India I don't see the need for a big rush to fix all the holes in the economy.

  641. @Mr. Hack
    @Cesar1191


    Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it.
     
    Any idea what that may be? So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.

    Since you don't bring up the possibility of Russia subduing Ukraine, it appears that you think that this is not a realistic possibility at this point?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Cesar1191, @John Johnson

    So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.

    Really? Let’s see: 20% of Ukraine with all of Azov sea, 1/3 of chernozem – most valuable long-term Ukie asset.

    Don’t fool yourself, Russia already got a lot and will take more. It is a disaster for long-term viability of Ukraine: it has dropped from one of the main Euro nations with enormous potential to a poor destroyed mid-size country below Romania.

    1991: 51 million people and great industry and agriculture.
    2024: 25-30 million with destroyed industry, lost farming lands, living off charity and ‘loans’ – salaries and pensions paid fully by Euro-US aid.

    Plus losing the Crimea jewel and a few hundred thousand Ukie men. Who is the loser here?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Really? Let’s see: 20% of Ukraine with all of Azov sea, 1/3 of chernozem – most valuable long-term Ukie asset.

    Don’t fool yourself, Russia already got a lot and will take more. It is a disaster for long-term viability of Ukraine: it has dropped from one of the main Euro nations with enormous potential to a poor destroyed mid-size country below Romania.

    Russia didn't declare that the goal of the war is to take former DPR/LPR as Russian territory. He declared the goal is to keep NATO from moving East and by that measure he cannot win. He is clearly hoping for a face saving armistice as Lavrov already suggested there be a demilitarized zone between the two countries.

    In fact Putin decreed that LPR/DPR would become independent countries and backed by Russia:
    https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/73940/

    The decree is very clear:
    Taking into account the will of the people of the Donetsk People's Republic and Ukraine's refusal to peacefully settle the conflict in line with the Minsk Agreements, the Donetsk People's Republic shall be recognized as a sovereign and independent state

    I guess the will of the people won't be taken into account after all, correct?

    Replies: @Beckow

  642. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Ukraine should have found a way to stay neutral. Everything else follows. This was not complicated. The West expected that Russia would get militarily involved after the provocations including the Maidan coup and gradual military interconnection of Ukraine with NATO. This was a long process. I assume the Russian government gave public warnings along the way as Western meddling increased. Wise Ukrainians who wanted to heed these warnings and find another path were probably silenced by Ukrainian thugs funded by Western money.

    Is there a crucial segment to the long video?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Ukraine should have found a way to stay neutral.

    They chose to not elect the pro-NATO candidate in favor of Zelensky.

    Zelensky ran on a neutral platform and had no plans to join NATO.

    That isn’t enough? What else should they have done?

    Your desire is for the Ukrainians to submit to Russian rule, correct?

    Why do you have a hard time plainly stating that the Ukrainians do not want to submit to Russian rule?

    Is there a crucial segment to the long video?

    Is shows what life is like in totalitarian Russia. Do you think most Russians want to live in a country where a protestor was anally raped with a flashlight by the police?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the Ukrainians want to live their lives. Many of them fell for a con which led them to believe they would be better off as an enemy of Russia. This concept is ridiculously stupid on its face and on all other levels. They volunteered to be pawns. In wars of Empire pawn states often get mowed down. I don't know why you want to justify this mess created by the West.

    The Ukrainian people obviously don't want to be ruled by Russia at this point. They should have thought of that before they embarked on what is essentially a military stance against Russia. Eventually once the truth comes to light they will be even angrier at the West than they are at Russia. Such is life.

    Anyone who believes Zelensky is a legitimate president is a moron. You should stop using him as a positive example, unless you want to show how a little Jewish guy can play the piano with his dick and turn that into a high paying acting gig. Anything is possible!

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I watched your video and now I know: war is hell, water is wet. The subjects of the video fell into the abyss as often happens to anti-war dissidents in countries at war. The main difference compared to dissidents in English-speaking countries is that Russia is actually being threatened by outside forces directly on her border. The precipitating events were the Maidan coup and shelling in Donbas, but adults understand the expansion of NATO and placement of USA missile bases in Eastern Europe are directly related to this process. All of these moves were instigated by the West. No one has offered a justification saying, "yeah but we were only reacting since Russia did something first". All of this is an extended and concerted attempt to break the sovereignty of Russia.

    Critics of Russia in the Western media like to pretend this is not happening in a country closely linked to Russia which shared brotherly ties for over a millennia (not continuously, people are people).

    I hope the gentle people in the video survive and eventually realize that the West was playing Russia and Ukraine against each other to destroy them both. The biggest realization one can have is that the West is self-consciously risking nuclear war in the process. I think this last point is a reason many people are confused by this conflict. They intuitively know the actions of the West are extremely dangerous and "it breaks their brains" to face this fact.

    Replies: @Derer, @Wokechoke

  643. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.
     
    Really? Let's see: 20% of Ukraine with all of Azov sea, 1/3 of chernozem - most valuable long-term Ukie asset.

    Don't fool yourself, Russia already got a lot and will take more. It is a disaster for long-term viability of Ukraine: it has dropped from one of the main Euro nations with enormous potential to a poor destroyed mid-size country below Romania.

    1991: 51 million people and great industry and agriculture.
    2024: 25-30 million with destroyed industry, lost farming lands, living off charity and 'loans' - salaries and pensions paid fully by Euro-US aid.

    Plus losing the Crimea jewel and a few hundred thousand Ukie men. Who is the loser here?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Really? Let’s see: 20% of Ukraine with all of Azov sea, 1/3 of chernozem – most valuable long-term Ukie asset.

    Don’t fool yourself, Russia already got a lot and will take more. It is a disaster for long-term viability of Ukraine: it has dropped from one of the main Euro nations with enormous potential to a poor destroyed mid-size country below Romania.

    Russia didn’t declare that the goal of the war is to take former DPR/LPR as Russian territory. He declared the goal is to keep NATO from moving East and by that measure he cannot win. He is clearly hoping for a face saving armistice as Lavrov already suggested there be a demilitarized zone between the two countries.

    In fact Putin decreed that LPR/DPR would become independent countries and backed by Russia:
    https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/73940/

    The decree is very clear:
    Taking into account the will of the people of the Donetsk People’s Republic and Ukraine’s refusal to peacefully settle the conflict in line with the Minsk Agreements, the Donetsk People’s Republic shall be recognized as a sovereign and independent state

    I guess the will of the people won’t be taken into account after all, correct?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...the will of the people won’t be taken into account after all, correct?
     
    I don't know, why does it matter? Things have changed completely in 10 years - smart people change with times, what do you do?

    Repeating old statements makes you look desperate. What do you want? Biden's we will turn ruble into rubble, or Bush's Mission Accomplished!? Things change, focus on today.

    Russia is winning and Ukraine-Nato are losing, the details are to be decided. If it keeps you sane, you can endlessly celebrate Finland in Nato. Everyone knows that Russia would gladly exchange no Nato in Ukraine for de jure formalizing Finland's Nato membership. But if you have nothing else you can use Finland as a straw you hold on to. By all means do it if it "saves face". But you may need more face-saving bulls..t to make it through this defeat...:)

  644. @songbird
    @A123


    They got rid of him because he hates white people.
     
    Wouldn't explain why Sunak is still in. Or the guy in Wales or why it took so long to get rid of the guy in Ireland. Or why there are all those non-PoC leaders who would say similar things.

    They selected him AFTER he made that speech, not BEFORE. It was a well-known speech. The fact that people were calling the police to report it after they passed the hate-speech law, years after he made it, demonstrates it was very well-known.

    One wonders how he was elected.
     
    I don't believe he was elected PM, but rather selected by inner party politics. PoCs receive less criticism due to political correctness, so become consensus candidates.

    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke? ( inner party politics, purges, bribes), or why voters continue to vote for them? (Low information, lack of alternatives)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Matra

    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke?

    Politicians do whatever the money power tells them to do. Pay attention!

  645. @songbird
    Interesting thread touching on feminism in the academic world.
    https://twitter.com/NoahCarl90/status/1784560589852889474

    Would like to see the numbers further broken down into lesbianism, spinsterism (for old female staff), socio-sexual number, and race.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Number of cats in their house + number of neighborhood cats they feed and pretend aren’t really their close friends. Have you seen the Sapolsky crazy cat lady theory?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Have you seen the Sapolsky crazy cat lady theory?
     
    an oldie but a goodie. BTW, takes a bit of scrolling, but I really like these anti-suffragette cat posters.
    https://www.kqed.org/arts/13891913/how-the-crazy-cat-lady-became-one-of-pop-cultures-most-enduring-sexist-tropes

    Replies: @Negronicus

  646. @Derer
    @Beckow

    Thanks for correcting me. I guess my rhetoric in this case is not backed by reality. However, I was more thinking about the Chinese influence in holding approximately 40% of US$ foreign reserves.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …the Chinese influence in holding approximately 40% of US$ foreign reserves.

    Yes, China holds a huge amount of US$ foreign reserves. They keep on accumulating them with the trade surplus. It is risky, any $ account or transaction has to clear through NY Fed Reserve. US can block it.

    It is not sustainable after freezing of Russia’s reserves. Yelen and Blinken keep on flying to Beijing to beg (and threaten) China to keep the $ reserves. China is not stupid and simply won’t do it, but they do things gradually.

    There are no good alternatives but the dollar-system has been severely wounded. One possibility is a new global agreement with new rules – that means US would no longer dominate, it would be a multi-polar system. But more likely since the West is very stupid about it we will get a few decades of fragmentation, a much smaller “dollar” world side by side Brics and others. Everyone will lose but US and Euros by far the most. And how stupid they were – and still are…hubris and lying to yourself have a steep price.

  647. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikel


    I can’t imagine a bigger release than going all out in the middle of nature.
     
    It's hard to beat the fresh air and sunshine that one finds exercising outdoors. I even prefer swimming outdoors than indoors for these reasons.

    Replies: @Mikel

    It’s hard to beat the fresh air and sunshine that one finds exercising outdoors.

    It’s one of those things that is hard to put into words. Indoor exercise can release the same amount of endorphins but it just doesn’t have the same general effect on you. It must be connected to those ancestral instincts that get triggered when we go back to what used to be our natural habitats. I have shared all my life with people who weren’t interested in nature or exercise but I have a theory that even this kind of people “feel it” in their own way. Who doesn’t enjoy a walk by the ocean on a beautiful beach? Some of these very people are capable of spending hours basking in the sun on a beach (which I wouldn’t be able to do) and can even spend a whole summer doing barely anything but that. It seems to put them in a sort of trance. Similar mechanisms at play, I think.

  648. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.
     
    What? At what demo can people precisely tell how many people were there? Are you nuts or just pathologically dishonest? The two sides always estimate the crowds differently. Why is that a "change"?

    You are also repeating mindlessly one-sided propaganda. There were more people watching than participating. Nobody was arrested, if some were ID-ed and issued a ticket that is normal when blocking traffic. The "organizers" mythologized it later and your Western propaganda organs like Wiki, Britannica took the lies and exaggerations and turned them into a bigger lie by skipping context, mislabeling things, using terms they would never use at demos at home.

    One can say that "Macron's state security brutally suppressed peaceful demonstrations by farmers killing some and arresting thousands..."...Would you agree? That has just happened in France and is a lot closer to the truth than your "candle demo". I doubt "Britannica" describes it that way. You are an American Idiot obediently regurgitating the official propaganda. You would make a great commie.

    In what you attached is a picture of the annual Sastin pilgrimage that has nothing to do with the "candle demo". A transparent attempt to beef up the crowds. It is clearly labeled, why do you lie about it?

    What's the point in you trying to create a fake reality? Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine that all honesty is out of the window? The candle demo was a long time ago, it doesn't matter, I just happen to have a first-hand experience. But the same technique of lying, exaggerating and omitting key details is what you do with everything. You are a sad case.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.

    What? At what demo can people precisely tell how many people were there

    First you said only a few of old ladies demonstrated. When this lie was disproven, you made up a new story about demonstrators having fun and planning for water cannons by bringing umbrellas. Another lie – it was raining, that’s why they brought the umbrellas. Then you made up some numbers but couldn’t keep your fake story straight.

    You are also repeating mindlessly one-sided propaganda

    Now, that would be you as usual.

    As I explained, you are a midwit who is just smart enough to learn and repeat everything your socialist teachers taught you about history and whatever your socialist media taught you about events. They did not discuss the Underground Catholic Church so for you it didn’t exist. Or you made up stories about crazy street preachers and old ladies. Which fell apart in the face of evidence.

    Nobody was arrested [at the 1988 demonstration]

    You keep saying that but your own government and various international sources all state that people were arrested.

    Thank you for your open display of dishonesty.

    Western propaganda organs like Wiki, Britannica

    A opposed to “objective” Beckow? lol.

    Here is the Slovak government, if you don’t like “propaganda” sources such as encyclopedias (should we also dismiss dictionaries as “propaganda sources” if they contradict your nonsense?):

    Slovak government:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    The state police however responded with violence; employing batons and water cannons as well as arrests and interrogations

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    141 citizens were arrested by the security forces;

    14 people were injured during the police crackdown

    You are an American Idiot obediently regurgitating the official propaganda

    America doesn’t care about and doesn’t produce propaganda concerning Slovakia for its idiots.

    But Euro-lefties and the Russians produce plenty of propaganda for their “idiots.”

    The smarter ones of those, can remember and reproduce a lot of it.

    People like you.

    One can say that “Macron’s

    The classic dumb Soviet technique.

    Lie and lie, and when you are caught pivot to “whataboutism.”

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    So nothing? You repeat the Western second-hand lies and long-after-the event propaganda by a few frustrated catholics.

    You never addressed the obvious lie you produced in your attachment by using a photo of the Sastin annual pilgrimage to pretend that it was "candle demo". It is even labeled, but you count on people not paying attention. Regarding the umbrellas and rain - the buses came from pretty far away, how did they know it was going to rain? Maybe these village women always carry umbrellas. And candles.

    One other point: there were a lot of Austrians there and we could hear German spoken everywhere. The border is 20 minutes away and it was mid-week, why? They were asked to get in their cars and buses and to leave - is that what you mean by detained? Since you are an American Idiot, I am sure you will come up with an explanation...anything but to face reality, right?

    Replies: @AP

  649. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Really? Let’s see: 20% of Ukraine with all of Azov sea, 1/3 of chernozem – most valuable long-term Ukie asset.

    Don’t fool yourself, Russia already got a lot and will take more. It is a disaster for long-term viability of Ukraine: it has dropped from one of the main Euro nations with enormous potential to a poor destroyed mid-size country below Romania.

    Russia didn't declare that the goal of the war is to take former DPR/LPR as Russian territory. He declared the goal is to keep NATO from moving East and by that measure he cannot win. He is clearly hoping for a face saving armistice as Lavrov already suggested there be a demilitarized zone between the two countries.

    In fact Putin decreed that LPR/DPR would become independent countries and backed by Russia:
    https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/73940/

    The decree is very clear:
    Taking into account the will of the people of the Donetsk People's Republic and Ukraine's refusal to peacefully settle the conflict in line with the Minsk Agreements, the Donetsk People's Republic shall be recognized as a sovereign and independent state

    I guess the will of the people won't be taken into account after all, correct?

    Replies: @Beckow

    …the will of the people won’t be taken into account after all, correct?

    I don’t know, why does it matter? Things have changed completely in 10 years – smart people change with times, what do you do?

    Repeating old statements makes you look desperate. What do you want? Biden’s we will turn ruble into rubble, or Bush’s Mission Accomplished!? Things change, focus on today.

    Russia is winning and Ukraine-Nato are losing, the details are to be decided. If it keeps you sane, you can endlessly celebrate Finland in Nato. Everyone knows that Russia would gladly exchange no Nato in Ukraine for de jure formalizing Finland’s Nato membership. But if you have nothing else you can use Finland as a straw you hold on to. By all means do it if it “saves face”. But you may need more face-saving bulls..t to make it through this defeat…:)

  650. @songbird
    @A123


    They got rid of him because he hates white people.
     
    Wouldn't explain why Sunak is still in. Or the guy in Wales or why it took so long to get rid of the guy in Ireland. Or why there are all those non-PoC leaders who would say similar things.

    They selected him AFTER he made that speech, not BEFORE. It was a well-known speech. The fact that people were calling the police to report it after they passed the hate-speech law, years after he made it, demonstrates it was very well-known.

    One wonders how he was elected.
     
    I don't believe he was elected PM, but rather selected by inner party politics. PoCs receive less criticism due to political correctness, so become consensus candidates.

    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke? ( inner party politics, purges, bribes), or why voters continue to vote for them? (Low information, lack of alternatives)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Matra

    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke?

    The ScotsNats used to be known as Tartan Tories. They were usually right wing and aggressively Orange Protestant, or at least anti-Catholic. Some time – I’m guessing the 1990s – they started getting some Irish Catholic descendants from the Glasgow area who seemed to be motivated by anti-English sentiment. Wherever in Britain the Irish go – Liverpool being the main example – leftist politics follow. I don’t recall former leader Alex Salmond being all that PC, though he was a bit, but as younger more leftist anti-English/British elements joined the party they moved left on social issues, like all other liberal/leftist parties in the completely Americanised Anglosphere. Brexit, perceived as right wing, probably helped push the SNP even more to the left.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Matra


    Wherever in Britain the Irish go – Liverpool being the main example – leftist politics follow.
     
    I think that is true of any urban center. In Ireland, it's Dublin (see the ballot about families and women) and to a certain extent, some blame Anglos.
  651. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine
     
    You keep repeating this nonsense, as if it's true. It's your new mantra and you include it in almost all of your replies these days. By repeating it you think that it might be true, but nothing is further from the truth. You pay no heed that Ukraine has recently been afforded a military package of $61 billion, and other partners are anteing up too (Germany, Australia, Latvia and more). Russia should have conquered Ukraine a long time ago, why hasn't it done so already?

    Replies: @AP

    Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine

    You keep repeating this nonsense, as if it’s true. It’s your new mantra and you include it in almost all of your replies these days

    I like AaronB’s interpretation of that as a sort of desperate prayer or invocation. They hope that if they repeat it enough it will become true.

    Imagine that 2 years after invading Iraq, the Americans failed to take Baghdad or any provincial capital, only managed to grab 8% or 9% of the country near the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders, lost a lot of casualties (100,000+ dead) and 1/3 of their ships in the Persian Gulf, while having the Iraqis successfully start and expand a drone-bomb campaign US soil, destroying US factories or oil refineries right at home.

    It would be quite comical for a desperate pro-American to brag that the Iraqis are “losing” because they lost 9% of their territory and some valuable oil wells near the border to the American invaders.

    Does Beckow realize how ridiculous he is? Probably not.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Ohhh...US lost the Iraq war. You know that, don't you?

    Or are you going to claim it was another glorious victory? From Vietnam through Grenada all the way to Afghanistan and Syria...always a victory, right? When cornered you claim a tie as you run away leaving all weapons to the defeated side...

    Is another big victory coming up in Ukraine? I see, this time it will be maybe Trump's fault...or most likely not all Ukies willing to die for the dream of Nato membership, so it's their fault. I am sure your media and "wiki" will find a way to call it a win....:)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zfai0H7c8io/S86AeXO0a_I/AAAAAAAADiA/eV0ZIkrdwyo/s1600/cartoon+socialism.jpg

    Beckow, the socialist always right but often filling the skies with dark clouds that obscure the sky (and the truth).

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AP


    I like AaronB’s interpretation of that as a sort of desperate prayer or invocation.
     
    With some luck, maybe AaronB will once again grace us with his presence. With the recent return of Thorfinnsson and Bashibuzuk this blog might start to recapture some of its past color. Karlin is always welcome back too, not to mention his pal Daniel Chieh. As it is, this blog was starting to lose some of its panache. I mean really, how interesting can Mike Averko and myself slugging it out for the 1,000 time, or even you with Beckow really be? :-)
  652. @AP
    @Beckow


    was it 1000 or 500? You keep changing your story.

    What? At what demo can people precisely tell how many people were there
     

    First you said only a few of old ladies demonstrated. When this lie was disproven, you made up a new story about demonstrators having fun and planning for water cannons by bringing umbrellas. Another lie - it was raining, that’s why they brought the umbrellas. Then you made up some numbers but couldn’t keep your fake story straight.

    You are also repeating mindlessly one-sided propaganda
     
    Now, that would be you as usual.

    As I explained, you are a midwit who is just smart enough to learn and repeat everything your socialist teachers taught you about history and whatever your socialist media taught you about events. They did not discuss the Underground Catholic Church so for you it didn’t exist. Or you made up stories about crazy street preachers and old ladies. Which fell apart in the face of evidence.


    Nobody was arrested [at the 1988 demonstration]

     

    You keep saying that but your own government and various international sources all state that people were arrested.

    Thank you for your open display of dishonesty.


    Western propaganda organs like Wiki, Britannica

     

    A opposed to “objective” Beckow? lol.

    Here is the Slovak government, if you don’t like “propaganda” sources such as encyclopedias (should we also dismiss dictionaries as “propaganda sources” if they contradict your nonsense?):

    Slovak government:

    https://enrsi.rtvs.sk/articles/topical-issue/76742/slovakia-commemorates-anniversary-of-1988-candle-demonstration

    The state police however responded with violence; employing batons and water cannons as well as arrests and interrogations

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    141 citizens were arrested by the security forces;

    14 people were injured during the police crackdown


    You are an American Idiot obediently regurgitating the official propaganda

     

    America doesn’t care about and doesn’t produce propaganda concerning Slovakia for its idiots.

    But Euro-lefties and the Russians produce plenty of propaganda for their “idiots.”

    The smarter ones of those, can remember and reproduce a lot of it.

    People like you.


    One can say that “Macron’s

     

    The classic dumb Soviet technique.

    Lie and lie, and when you are caught pivot to “whataboutism.”

    Replies: @Beckow

    So nothing? You repeat the Western second-hand lies and long-after-the event propaganda by a few frustrated catholics.

    You never addressed the obvious lie you produced in your attachment by using a photo of the Sastin annual pilgrimage to pretend that it was “candle demo”. It is even labeled, but you count on people not paying attention. Regarding the umbrellas and rain – the buses came from pretty far away, how did they know it was going to rain? Maybe these village women always carry umbrellas. And candles.

    One other point: there were a lot of Austrians there and we could hear German spoken everywhere. The border is 20 minutes away and it was mid-week, why? They were asked to get in their cars and buses and to leave – is that what you mean by detained? Since you are an American Idiot, I am sure you will come up with an explanation…anything but to face reality, right?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    So nothing? You repeat the Western second-hand lies and long-after-the event propaganda by a few frustrated catholics.
     
    I provided evidence from Encyclopedia Britannica and from your own government. With links.

    You, in contrast, only provided your own words. And we know what they are worth.


    You never addressed the obvious lie you produced in your attachment by using a photo of the Sastin annual pilgrimage to pretend that it was “candle demo”. It is even labeled

     

    I did not use that photo, the photo was in the link and it was clearly labeled. There were other photos that were also clearly labeled. I wasn’t discussing Sastin.

    Funnily enough, you decided to lie that I used the photo for something or that it was somehow relevant. You see desperate.

    Friendly advice: just be truthful. It’s a lot easier.


    Regarding the umbrellas and rain – the buses came from pretty far away, how did they know it was going to rain
     
    Socialist Slovakia didn’t have weather forecasts?

    Is it hard for you to think off-script?


    One other point: there were a lot of Austrians there and we could hear German spoken everywhere. The border is 20 minutes away and it was mid-week, why? They were asked to get in their cars and buses and to leave – is that what you mean by detained
     
    The Slovak government says arrested.

    Who is lying here? Beckow, or everyone else?

    Replies: @Beckow

  653. @Jazman
    @AnonfromTN

    What is your opinion on ancient Biblical lifespan like for example Methuselah lived to be 969 years old :) we have jokes in Serbia " old like Methuselah" :) . Even your colleague claiming that is true . https://apps.ualberta.ca/directory/person/terzin

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    What is your opinion on ancient Biblical lifespan like for example Methuselah lived to be 969 years old

    As a biologist, I can’t believe it. If you eliminate the contribution of infant mortality (say, only count humans that lived past 3 years of age), the distribution of longevity is a Gaussian, with the probability decreasing as you move away from the average (in symmetrical Gaussian average is the same as “mode”, corresponds to the peak). The probability of a human living 969 years is as close to zero as makes no difference. The probability of a string of related individuals living the years described in the Bible is even closer to zero. The Bible is an interesting reading, but it has a lot of things that were either made up or corrupted in copying and/or translation. This is one of those.

    Religious Jews use those numbers to calculate the age of the world since creation. Their calculations are as credible as the implication in the first chapter that the Earth is flat.

    we have jokes in Serbia ” old like Methuselah”

    There is similar expression in Russian. I’d expect something like that expression to be in every language of a Christian nation.

    Even your colleague claiming that is true

    People believed all sorts of preposterous things for thousands of years. There were people believing that they are Napoleon or Julius Caesar. Recent Russian joke says that there are fewer lunatic asylum inmates believing themselves to be Napoleon or Julius Caesar because modern people rarely know anything about these guys.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Religious Jews use those numbers to calculate the age of the world since creation. Their calculations are as credible as the implication in the first chapter that the Earth is flat.
     
    The good old Bible and Metuzalem, holy truths must not be doubted. I read it as a kid and the 900-year long lives amused me - someone told me that they confused months and years and that it all makes sense that way. Right, that must be it.

    But the real jewels are Bible's genocidal stories, the ethnic pride in killing all women and children just seeps out of the pages. Yes, god willed it. Why exactly should we worship the crazy genocidal boasting of a long-ago Middle Eastern tribe? It never made sense to me. I suppose it was the "commie fault", they didn't appreciate the peaceful nature of the biblical genocides and that Jesus&Co. were different...

    Where exactly in the Bible is that mass murder denounced by Jesus? I couldn't find it.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  654. @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine

    You keep repeating this nonsense, as if it’s true. It’s your new mantra and you include it in almost all of your replies these days
     
    I like AaronB’s interpretation of that as a sort of desperate prayer or invocation. They hope that if they repeat it enough it will become true.

    Imagine that 2 years after invading Iraq, the Americans failed to take Baghdad or any provincial capital, only managed to grab 8% or 9% of the country near the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders, lost a lot of casualties (100,000+ dead) and 1/3 of their ships in the Persian Gulf, while having the Iraqis successfully start and expand a drone-bomb campaign US soil, destroying US factories or oil refineries right at home.

    It would be quite comical for a desperate pro-American to brag that the Iraqis are “losing” because they lost 9% of their territory and some valuable oil wells near the border to the American invaders.

    Does Beckow realize how ridiculous he is? Probably not.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    Ohhh…US lost the Iraq war. You know that, don’t you?

    Or are you going to claim it was another glorious victory? From Vietnam through Grenada all the way to Afghanistan and Syria…always a victory, right? When cornered you claim a tie as you run away leaving all weapons to the defeated side

    Is another big victory coming up in Ukraine? I see, this time it will be maybe Trump’s fault…or most likely not all Ukies willing to die for the dream of Nato membership, so it’s their fault. I am sure your media and “wiki” will find a way to call it a win….:)

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I am sure your media and “wiki” will find a way to call it a win
     
    There is Russian joke “нас постиг большой успех” (we suffered a great success). No doubt in Ukraine the US will suffer another glorious victory.
    , @AP
    @Beckow


    Ohhh…US lost the Iraq war
     
    Did the USA capture Baghdad, eliminate the Iraqi government and install one more to its liking? And didn’t the Americans say the war was about preventing Iraq from having Weapons of Mass Destruction? Does Iraq have such weapons now?

    If the Iraq war was a US loss, what do you call Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine, failing to remove the Ukrainian leadership, losing 100,000+ dead, losing 1/3 of its Black Sea Fleet, and now having it’s homeland subject to regular Ukrainian attack after more than two years?

    That’s right, you call it winning :-).

    Replies: @Beckow

  655. @Beckow
    @AP

    Ohhh...US lost the Iraq war. You know that, don't you?

    Or are you going to claim it was another glorious victory? From Vietnam through Grenada all the way to Afghanistan and Syria...always a victory, right? When cornered you claim a tie as you run away leaving all weapons to the defeated side...

    Is another big victory coming up in Ukraine? I see, this time it will be maybe Trump's fault...or most likely not all Ukies willing to die for the dream of Nato membership, so it's their fault. I am sure your media and "wiki" will find a way to call it a win....:)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    I am sure your media and “wiki” will find a way to call it a win

    There is Russian joke “нас постиг большой успех” (we suffered a great success). No doubt in Ukraine the US will suffer another glorious victory.

  656. @AnonfromTN
    @Jazman


    What is your opinion on ancient Biblical lifespan like for example Methuselah lived to be 969 years old
     
    As a biologist, I can’t believe it. If you eliminate the contribution of infant mortality (say, only count humans that lived past 3 years of age), the distribution of longevity is a Gaussian, with the probability decreasing as you move away from the average (in symmetrical Gaussian average is the same as “mode”, corresponds to the peak). The probability of a human living 969 years is as close to zero as makes no difference. The probability of a string of related individuals living the years described in the Bible is even closer to zero. The Bible is an interesting reading, but it has a lot of things that were either made up or corrupted in copying and/or translation. This is one of those.

    Religious Jews use those numbers to calculate the age of the world since creation. Their calculations are as credible as the implication in the first chapter that the Earth is flat.

    we have jokes in Serbia ” old like Methuselah”
     
    There is similar expression in Russian. I’d expect something like that expression to be in every language of a Christian nation.

    Even your colleague claiming that is true
     
    People believed all sorts of preposterous things for thousands of years. There were people believing that they are Napoleon or Julius Caesar. Recent Russian joke says that there are fewer lunatic asylum inmates believing themselves to be Napoleon or Julius Caesar because modern people rarely know anything about these guys.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Religious Jews use those numbers to calculate the age of the world since creation. Their calculations are as credible as the implication in the first chapter that the Earth is flat.

    The good old Bible and Metuzalem, holy truths must not be doubted. I read it as a kid and the 900-year long lives amused me – someone told me that they confused months and years and that it all makes sense that way. Right, that must be it.

    But the real jewels are Bible’s genocidal stories, the ethnic pride in killing all women and children just seeps out of the pages. Yes, god willed it. Why exactly should we worship the crazy genocidal boasting of a long-ago Middle Eastern tribe? It never made sense to me. I suppose it was the “commie fault”, they didn’t appreciate the peaceful nature of the biblical genocides and that Jesus&Co. were different…

    Where exactly in the Bible is that mass murder denounced by Jesus? I couldn’t find it.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    But the real jewels are Bible’s genocidal stories
     
    There are many jewels of this kind in the Bible. Some chapters are pretty realistic. That’s what makes it an interesting read.

    Those who try to use it as a moral guide remind me of New Testament quote about blind leading the blind.
  657. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Religious Jews use those numbers to calculate the age of the world since creation. Their calculations are as credible as the implication in the first chapter that the Earth is flat.
     
    The good old Bible and Metuzalem, holy truths must not be doubted. I read it as a kid and the 900-year long lives amused me - someone told me that they confused months and years and that it all makes sense that way. Right, that must be it.

    But the real jewels are Bible's genocidal stories, the ethnic pride in killing all women and children just seeps out of the pages. Yes, god willed it. Why exactly should we worship the crazy genocidal boasting of a long-ago Middle Eastern tribe? It never made sense to me. I suppose it was the "commie fault", they didn't appreciate the peaceful nature of the biblical genocides and that Jesus&Co. were different...

    Where exactly in the Bible is that mass murder denounced by Jesus? I couldn't find it.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    But the real jewels are Bible’s genocidal stories

    There are many jewels of this kind in the Bible. Some chapters are pretty realistic. That’s what makes it an interesting read.

    Those who try to use it as a moral guide remind me of New Testament quote about blind leading the blind.

  658. These countries have asked US-UK in the last few months to repatriate their gold reserves: Nigeria, South Africa, Ghana, Senegal, Cameron, Algeria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. It is a mystery why other countries’ gold is stored in New York or London – a classical mafia protection racket. Let’s see if there is enough gold to honor the withdrawals.

    The dollar system is unraveling – not because anyone wanted it, but because the Western elites chose wars over prosperity and fiat money-stealing over real economic development. The weaker parts of the West will suffer first.

    Another $100 billion out of thin air to fund wars – and Voilà! most will be spent at home. Can someone explain why wouldn’t just paying those people making the weapons be cheaper? At least they would save the material costs.

  659. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    here are plenty of brilliant women

    I am partial to smart women since my teens.
     
    That's as it should be. They are more interesting and their intelligence is not only expressed in intellectual interests but typically in taste.

    Ukraine is your blind spot.

    Ukraine happens to be the country I really know well. I was born there, lived there for ~18 years, visited my parents there many times after that, fluently speak the language
     
    Yes, but you are (to an extent, understandably) bitter because the Ukrainian government bombed your hometown and you blame it rather than the Russians who actively made the rebellion possible, doing to Ukraine what Turkey, Saudi, and the West did to Syria. Perhaps because you lived in Russia after you lived in Ukraine and have more sympathy for the Russian side. So you write some of the crazy things you do, like Ukraine built no new roads or metro stations, etc. "Facts" from Russian websites about Ukraine.

    Also your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians, on the edge geographically and different ethnically. Like New Mexico for the USA. So someone who knows New Mexico really well (I do not doubt your knowledge of Luhansk, specifically) writes about Chicago or New York or Boston from an anti-American Mexican perspective.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians

    Interesting coming-out. So, what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?

    You are right that my view is heavily influenced by the fact that I did not live in Donbass for decades. It is actually Russian, fairly mild. Donbass view today is burning hatred of everything Ukrainian. As Ukrainian POWs say, “Russian soldiers treat us well, but Donbass soldiers want to kill us all”.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?

    ...As Ukrainian POWs say, “Russian soldiers treat us well, but Donbass soldiers want to kill us all”.
     

    AP claims that he was in favor of Donbas joining Russia. It is a more rational view but it doesn't address the war. Ukrainian-Russian disputes about language and history would never lead to a war without the crucial role Nato's plan to move to Ukraine played.

    West doesn't care what language is used in Donbas or Bandera stadiums. It was only a golden opportunity to get the Ukies and Russians to fight. There is open glee in the West the Ukies are dying in large numbers but they are also kill Russians. For many sickos that is a win-win.

    This is bad: Western pathologies floated to the surface: hatred or Slavs, Western cowardice - they can only fight when they have total superiority. Germany never showed any remorse for murdering millions of Slavs - they only did it for Jews and Roma. Today we see Anglos on the highest level grinning about how the Ukies are dying and "let's give them more weapons, haha..." so they weaken Russia. Evil uses stupidity, it's always like that.

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians

    Interesting coming-out. So, what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?
     
    The right of any government to keep its territory intact and to fight armed gangs and foreigners. Similar to Russia’s situation in Chechnya. Do you think that it would be legitimate to bomb Moscow because Moscow bombed Chechnya?

    A further important note: the rebel leadership were either outright foreigners such as Girkin or that Motorola warlord, or locals from marginal Russian nationalist organizations, who got funded by Russia. If the local elected officials had been in charge of the rebellion it would have had much more legitimacy. This wasn’t Yanukovich or local Party of Regions elected people defying Kiev in Donbas. The state had the right to fight some Russian warlords and their local friends who were trying to detach its territory.

    Donbass view today is burning hatred of everything Ukrainian
     
    And so is Kharkiv view of everything Russian, except maybe the language though even that is changing.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  660. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Ukraine should have found a way to stay neutral.

    They chose to not elect the pro-NATO candidate in favor of Zelensky.

    Zelensky ran on a neutral platform and had no plans to join NATO.

    That isn't enough? What else should they have done?

    Your desire is for the Ukrainians to submit to Russian rule, correct?

    Why do you have a hard time plainly stating that the Ukrainians do not want to submit to Russian rule?

    Is there a crucial segment to the long video?

    Is shows what life is like in totalitarian Russia. Do you think most Russians want to live in a country where a protestor was anally raped with a flashlight by the police?

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC

    I think the Ukrainians want to live their lives. Many of them fell for a con which led them to believe they would be better off as an enemy of Russia. This concept is ridiculously stupid on its face and on all other levels. They volunteered to be pawns. In wars of Empire pawn states often get mowed down. I don’t know why you want to justify this mess created by the West.

    The Ukrainian people obviously don’t want to be ruled by Russia at this point. They should have thought of that before they embarked on what is essentially a military stance against Russia. Eventually once the truth comes to light they will be even angrier at the West than they are at Russia. Such is life.

    Anyone who believes Zelensky is a legitimate president is a moron. You should stop using him as a positive example, unless you want to show how a little Jewish guy can play the piano with his dick and turn that into a high paying acting gig. Anything is possible!

  661. @Mr. Hack
    @Cesar1191


    Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it.
     
    Any idea what that may be? So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.

    Since you don't bring up the possibility of Russia subduing Ukraine, it appears that you think that this is not a realistic possibility at this point?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Cesar1191, @John Johnson

    Any idea what that may be? So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.

    I’m not sure the Russians know. At this point it seems clear that Russia wants to take as much territory as possible, it’s not clear if they have any grand plans after that. Maybe they still believe that they can conquer all of Ukraine, that would be the best outcome for them, at least on paper, because in reality most Ukrainians would see this coming and would probably just move to Europe. Russia has probably already lost the chance to absorb the Ukrainian population.

    The second best option for Russia, assuming taking all of Ukraine is not possible, would be for the Russians to force Ukraine to sign an agreement that would leave Ukraine isolated and vulnerable to future Russian moves. As I wrote, Russia has a incentive to destroy Ukraine’s long-term development if they can’t take the country and if Ukraine can’t force them to back down.

    Since you don’t bring up the possibility of Russia subduing Ukraine, it appears that you think that this is not a realistic possibility at this point?

    Russia dominating Ukraine, whether through direct conquest or an agreement that leaves Ukraine isolated and vulnerable to future attacks, is a very realistic possibility, especially if the West does not help Ukraine. We’ve seen the US cut off aid to Ukraine for many months because weird right-wingers online didn’t want Ukraine to receive aid. What will the US political situation be in 2025? If Trump wins, Ukraine could end up getting nothing for the next four years. So, the burden will fall on Europe. Is Europe increasing its production of artillery and other military items? Supposedly, they are, and some people say that by 2025 or 2026, Europe will be producing everything that Ukraine needs, we’ll see if that will end up being true, because 2024 was and will still be a real disappointment in terms of Europe having failed to increase its capabilities to support Ukraine.

  662. @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians
     
    Interesting coming-out. So, what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?

    You are right that my view is heavily influenced by the fact that I did not live in Donbass for decades. It is actually Russian, fairly mild. Donbass view today is burning hatred of everything Ukrainian. As Ukrainian POWs say, “Russian soldiers treat us well, but Donbass soldiers want to kill us all”.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

    …what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?

    …As Ukrainian POWs say, “Russian soldiers treat us well, but Donbass soldiers want to kill us all”.

    AP claims that he was in favor of Donbas joining Russia. It is a more rational view but it doesn’t address the war. Ukrainian-Russian disputes about language and history would never lead to a war without the crucial role Nato’s plan to move to Ukraine played.

    West doesn’t care what language is used in Donbas or Bandera stadiums. It was only a golden opportunity to get the Ukies and Russians to fight. There is open glee in the West the Ukies are dying in large numbers but they are also kill Russians. For many sickos that is a win-win.

    This is bad: Western pathologies floated to the surface: hatred or Slavs, Western cowardice – they can only fight when they have total superiority. Germany never showed any remorse for murdering millions of Slavs – they only did it for Jews and Roma. Today we see Anglos on the highest level grinning about how the Ukies are dying and “let’s give them more weapons, haha…” so they weaken Russia. Evil uses stupidity, it’s always like that.

  663. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    So nothing? You repeat the Western second-hand lies and long-after-the event propaganda by a few frustrated catholics.

    You never addressed the obvious lie you produced in your attachment by using a photo of the Sastin annual pilgrimage to pretend that it was "candle demo". It is even labeled, but you count on people not paying attention. Regarding the umbrellas and rain - the buses came from pretty far away, how did they know it was going to rain? Maybe these village women always carry umbrellas. And candles.

    One other point: there were a lot of Austrians there and we could hear German spoken everywhere. The border is 20 minutes away and it was mid-week, why? They were asked to get in their cars and buses and to leave - is that what you mean by detained? Since you are an American Idiot, I am sure you will come up with an explanation...anything but to face reality, right?

    Replies: @AP

    So nothing? You repeat the Western second-hand lies and long-after-the event propaganda by a few frustrated catholics.

    I provided evidence from Encyclopedia Britannica and from your own government. With links.

    You, in contrast, only provided your own words. And we know what they are worth.

    You never addressed the obvious lie you produced in your attachment by using a photo of the Sastin annual pilgrimage to pretend that it was “candle demo”. It is even labeled

    I did not use that photo, the photo was in the link and it was clearly labeled. There were other photos that were also clearly labeled. I wasn’t discussing Sastin.

    Funnily enough, you decided to lie that I used the photo for something or that it was somehow relevant. You see desperate.

    Friendly advice: just be truthful. It’s a lot easier.

    Regarding the umbrellas and rain – the buses came from pretty far away, how did they know it was going to rain

    Socialist Slovakia didn’t have weather forecasts?

    Is it hard for you to think off-script?

    One other point: there were a lot of Austrians there and we could hear German spoken everywhere. The border is 20 minutes away and it was mid-week, why? They were asked to get in their cars and buses and to leave – is that what you mean by detained

    The Slovak government says arrested.

    Who is lying here? Beckow, or everyone else?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    I wasn’t discussing Sastin.
     
    The only large crowd picture you attached was of the Sastin pilgrimage...was that an attempt to mislead or were you sloppy?

    Slovak government says arrested...
     
    No they don't, nobody said it in 1988. Who were the "arrested"? There are no names or charges...In a small country we would know. And how about the Austrians "participating'? Is that normal?

    You are linking propaganda from decades later by Christian Democrats who had temporary control of some institutions. They no longer do. The Catholic Christian Democrat Party has 6% support in elections - they are barely in Parliament. Is that your idea of a "religious" country?

    In Czechia they got 5.8% - it's about the same. You know nothing about us.

    Replies: @AP

  664. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians
     
    Interesting coming-out. So, what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?

    You are right that my view is heavily influenced by the fact that I did not live in Donbass for decades. It is actually Russian, fairly mild. Donbass view today is burning hatred of everything Ukrainian. As Ukrainian POWs say, “Russian soldiers treat us well, but Donbass soldiers want to kill us all”.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

    your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians

    Interesting coming-out. So, what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?

    The right of any government to keep its territory intact and to fight armed gangs and foreigners. Similar to Russia’s situation in Chechnya. Do you think that it would be legitimate to bomb Moscow because Moscow bombed Chechnya?

    A further important note: the rebel leadership were either outright foreigners such as Girkin or that Motorola warlord, or locals from marginal Russian nationalist organizations, who got funded by Russia. If the local elected officials had been in charge of the rebellion it would have had much more legitimacy. This wasn’t Yanukovich or local Party of Regions elected people defying Kiev in Donbas. The state had the right to fight some Russian warlords and their local friends who were trying to detach its territory.

    Donbass view today is burning hatred of everything Ukrainian

    And so is Kharkiv view of everything Russian, except maybe the language though even that is changing.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    The right of any government to keep its territory intact and to fight armed gangs and foreigners.
     
    Ever heard of the referendums in Donbass in 2014? I know, this is a very awkward issue for Ukies and their puppeteers, so they prefer to pretend that this never happened. Classical head-in-the-sand strategy. Predictable outcome.
  665. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Decoupling from the West is strengthening the Russian economy as well

    How do we know this is the case?

    Putin is taking oil cash and dumping it into military spending.

    Yes it technically expands the GDP but at the same time he is putting holes in the economy that cannot be replaced. They've lost Western tourism, Western computer chips and Western parts for all kinds of industries. I was called a Jew at the start of the war for pointing out that the Chinese cannot replace every part but this has proven to be the case. If a business depends on some advanced piece of German machinery the Russians can't just call Chang to get a part.

    You can end up with a situation where runaway inflation takes over even as the government points at how the GDP is growing. The people look at prices and choose to hold onto their wallets. Building a thousand BMPs with oil cash doesn't fix the underlying economy.

    We really don't know the state of the Russian economy just as we don't know their actual losses in the war. They're a closed society that answers to Putin.

    so it seems probable that this state of affairs will continue until the West gives up or the dollar implodes, whichever occurs first.

    Putin's fans declared the dollar to be doomed at the start of the war and it finished ahead of both the Euro and the Ruble.

    It seems every year that someone decrees it to be the last year of the dollar.

    Happy annual dollar is doomed day.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I hope the dollar stays afloat. I think the march of progress around the world somehow allows the USA to run on debt without the rest of the world getting too worried about it. The risk of changing monetary systems seems higher than markets are willing to accept.

    The Russian economy and production chain had so many holes after 1995 that many sectors were barely functional. Many industries were offshored which made it difficult to rebuild and fill the holes. Sanctions began to change this situation starting in 2015. There have been lots of credible reports describing how Russia has very gradually rebuilt her supply chains and productivity. I think the way this will work out is hard to predict since they have limited manpower. To make more with less they need more automation like Germany, Japan or even China. I wonder if they will end up like China being a relatively low cost producer yet with a substantial amount of automation? I think this will take 5 to 10 years, but Russians seem very patient.

    Semiconductor manufacturing seems like the weakest and most backward sector, but they can still buy chips from China. Reportedly Russia can produce her own chips at the 28 nm node which is good enough for many applications other than cell phones and higher performance computers. Most military electronics and industrial controls do not use bleeding edge semiconductors. Russia may be at risk of falling behind in AI since that field is currently metastasizing with fully state-of-the-art chips from NVIDIA. I wonder if Russia will focus more effort on quantum computing technologies since that field is still more wide open?

    Russia consistently builds nuclear reactors, rockets, radars, satellites, ships, submarines, fighter aircraft, helicopters, commercial aircraft, etc. The production rates for all of the big ticket items are low, but not out of line for a country with 150 million people. Surely these products all have some foreign inputs as do similar items in every country. This will lead to more and more import substitution efforts. The growth in these sectors may not translate directly into more tractors, cars, or other mainstream items but I think there is a gradual knock-on effect. As long as they can get the easy stuff from China and India I don’t see the need for a big rush to fix all the holes in the economy.

  666. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    Ohhh...US lost the Iraq war. You know that, don't you?

    Or are you going to claim it was another glorious victory? From Vietnam through Grenada all the way to Afghanistan and Syria...always a victory, right? When cornered you claim a tie as you run away leaving all weapons to the defeated side...

    Is another big victory coming up in Ukraine? I see, this time it will be maybe Trump's fault...or most likely not all Ukies willing to die for the dream of Nato membership, so it's their fault. I am sure your media and "wiki" will find a way to call it a win....:)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Ohhh…US lost the Iraq war

    Did the USA capture Baghdad, eliminate the Iraqi government and install one more to its liking? And didn’t the Americans say the war was about preventing Iraq from having Weapons of Mass Destruction? Does Iraq have such weapons now?

    If the Iraq war was a US loss, what do you call Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine, failing to remove the Ukrainian leadership, losing 100,000+ dead, losing 1/3 of its Black Sea Fleet, and now having it’s homeland subject to regular Ukrainian attack after more than two years?

    That’s right, you call it winning :-).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    US lost the war in Iraq. If it makes you feel better that you killed hundreds of thousands of defenseless Iraqis before the loss you are a pretty sick man. But it is not a win.


    Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine...
     
    20%, don't lie. It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning. Ukies have losses close to half a million: dead, seriously wounded, POWs. What are you celebrating?

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @John Johnson

  667. @AP
    @Beckow


    So nothing? You repeat the Western second-hand lies and long-after-the event propaganda by a few frustrated catholics.
     
    I provided evidence from Encyclopedia Britannica and from your own government. With links.

    You, in contrast, only provided your own words. And we know what they are worth.


    You never addressed the obvious lie you produced in your attachment by using a photo of the Sastin annual pilgrimage to pretend that it was “candle demo”. It is even labeled

     

    I did not use that photo, the photo was in the link and it was clearly labeled. There were other photos that were also clearly labeled. I wasn’t discussing Sastin.

    Funnily enough, you decided to lie that I used the photo for something or that it was somehow relevant. You see desperate.

    Friendly advice: just be truthful. It’s a lot easier.


    Regarding the umbrellas and rain – the buses came from pretty far away, how did they know it was going to rain
     
    Socialist Slovakia didn’t have weather forecasts?

    Is it hard for you to think off-script?


    One other point: there were a lot of Austrians there and we could hear German spoken everywhere. The border is 20 minutes away and it was mid-week, why? They were asked to get in their cars and buses and to leave – is that what you mean by detained
     
    The Slovak government says arrested.

    Who is lying here? Beckow, or everyone else?

    Replies: @Beckow

    I wasn’t discussing Sastin.

    The only large crowd picture you attached was of the Sastin pilgrimage…was that an attempt to mislead or were you sloppy?

    Slovak government says arrested…

    No they don’t, nobody said it in 1988. Who were the “arrested”? There are no names or charges…In a small country we would know. And how about the Austrians “participating’? Is that normal?

    You are linking propaganda from decades later by Christian Democrats who had temporary control of some institutions. They no longer do. The Catholic Christian Democrat Party has 6% support in elections – they are barely in Parliament. Is that your idea of a “religious” country?

    In Czechia they got 5.8% – it’s about the same. You know nothing about us.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    I wasn’t discussing Sastin.

    The only large crowd picture you attached was of the Sastin pilgrimage…
     

    Don't lie as usual. It was not. The picture I attached was of the 1988 demonstration, a lot of people with umbrellas.

    https://kafkadesk.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/fopufcpxoam8-mc.jpg

    The picture labeled as Sastin was completely different:

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf


    were you sloppy?
     
    That would be you false claim, above.

    Slovak government says arrested…

    No they don’t, nobody said it in 1988.
     

    According to whom, Beckow? The guy who can't keep a story straight?

    I posted links to Slovak government websites stating arrested.

    From your government:

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    "141 citizens were arrested by the security forces"


    There are no names or charges
     
    Because you claimed there aren't?

    As for charges:

    https://hi-storylessons.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Candle-demonstration.pdf

    Security authorities arrested 141, including thirteen foreign journalists. At the District National Committee Bratislava I the security authorities accused seventy seven citizens of participating in a demonstration with the offence of breaching public order. The court punishment of demonstrators fell under the jurisdiction of District Court Bratislava I, which issued summons in 17 cases in September 1988.


    You are linking propaganda from decades later by Christian Democrats who had temporary control of some institutions.
     
    And yet the current government retains the information.

    Let's summarize - Encyclopedia Britannica - propaganda. Slovak government portals - propaganda. Beckow - not propaganda. :-)


    You know nothing about us.
     
    And you have proven to know even less than I do. It's what happens when your mind is filled with bad teachings in substandard schools.
  668. @AP
    @Beckow


    Ohhh…US lost the Iraq war
     
    Did the USA capture Baghdad, eliminate the Iraqi government and install one more to its liking? And didn’t the Americans say the war was about preventing Iraq from having Weapons of Mass Destruction? Does Iraq have such weapons now?

    If the Iraq war was a US loss, what do you call Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine, failing to remove the Ukrainian leadership, losing 100,000+ dead, losing 1/3 of its Black Sea Fleet, and now having it’s homeland subject to regular Ukrainian attack after more than two years?

    That’s right, you call it winning :-).

    Replies: @Beckow

    US lost the war in Iraq. If it makes you feel better that you killed hundreds of thousands of defenseless Iraqis before the loss you are a pretty sick man. But it is not a win.

    Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine…

    20%, don’t lie. It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning. Ukies have losses close to half a million: dead, seriously wounded, POWs. What are you celebrating?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Beckow


    US lost the war in Iraq
     
    It is 100% undeniable that the U.S. military handily Won the War. The Iraqi military and government crumbled. Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein's regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.

    Where GW Bush failed was the post-war period -- He Lost the Peace. The wise move would have been a 3 or 4 way partition. Trying to go for a Lebanon style weak federation was doomed before it even launched.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    US lost the war in Iraq.
     
    US said it fought the war to prevent Saddam from getting his hands on Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    And he didn't.

    You claim that Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent Ukraine from getting into NATO, and that because Ukraine isn't in NATO Russia "won."

    You are stupid but you are not consistent in your stupidity. If Russia won because Ukraine isn't in NATO (it wasn't anyways), USA won because Saddam didn't get WMDs.

    But more realistically, America occupied the entire country and arrested and/or killed its leadership. It installed the government of its choosing.

    Russia has only taken 8%-9% of Ukraine in over 2 years. Zelensky is still in power. Ukraine now regularly bombs Russia itself.

    You beclown yourself when you claim USA lost, but Russia is "winning."

    Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine…

    20%, don’t lie.
     
    We are talking about the invasion of February 2022 - the so-called SMO. 10% was taken in 2014.

    I know you are desperate of course.

    It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning.
     
    As I said before:

    Imagine that 2 years after invading Iraq, the Americans failed to take Baghdad or any provincial capital, only managed to grab 8% or 9% of the country near the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders, lost a lot of casualties (100,000+ dead) and 1/3 of their ships in the Persian Gulf, while having the Iraqis successfully start and expand a drone-bomb campaign in US soil, destroying US factories or oil refineries right at home.

    It would be quite comical for a desperate pro-American to brag that the Iraqis are “losing” because they lost 9% of their territory and some valuable oil wells near the border to the American invaders.

    Does Beckow realize how ridiculous he is? Probably not.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    US lost the war in Iraq. If it makes you feel better that you killed hundreds of thousands of defenseless Iraqis before the loss you are a pretty sick man. But it is not a win.

    So this would be the winner of the war?

    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.KQYnLNFoOicd7_LrQfx6jgHaFj?w=219&h=180&c=7&r=0&o=5&pid=1.7

    20%, don’t lie. It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning. Ukies have losses close to half a million: dead, seriously wounded, POWs. What are you celebrating?

    Putin didn't start the war with this statement:
    I'm gonna lie about giving DPR/LPR full autonomy and then try to take as much Ukrainian land as I can. Wish me luck.

    Did you see in the news that the US is supposedly sending 1000 ATACMS missiles to Ukraine?

    Anything that enters Ukraine can be destroyed.

    The belief that Russia can always find endless cannon fodder is a myth. In fact the 1917 revolution was backed by the opposite reality. If the Russian military had been winning against Germany in 1917 then there never would have been a Soviet empire. The Russian troops were demoralized and wanted to go home. Lenin came along and said You can all be winners in your own way!. The original participation trophy.

  669. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    your part of Ukraine was populated largely by non-Ukrainians

    Interesting coming-out. So, what right did Ukraine have to move troops into that part and try to subjugate its residents violently?
     
    The right of any government to keep its territory intact and to fight armed gangs and foreigners. Similar to Russia’s situation in Chechnya. Do you think that it would be legitimate to bomb Moscow because Moscow bombed Chechnya?

    A further important note: the rebel leadership were either outright foreigners such as Girkin or that Motorola warlord, or locals from marginal Russian nationalist organizations, who got funded by Russia. If the local elected officials had been in charge of the rebellion it would have had much more legitimacy. This wasn’t Yanukovich or local Party of Regions elected people defying Kiev in Donbas. The state had the right to fight some Russian warlords and their local friends who were trying to detach its territory.

    Donbass view today is burning hatred of everything Ukrainian
     
    And so is Kharkiv view of everything Russian, except maybe the language though even that is changing.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    The right of any government to keep its territory intact and to fight armed gangs and foreigners.

    Ever heard of the referendums in Donbass in 2014? I know, this is a very awkward issue for Ukies and their puppeteers, so they prefer to pretend that this never happened. Classical head-in-the-sand strategy. Predictable outcome.

  670. A123 says: • Website
    @Beckow
    @AP

    US lost the war in Iraq. If it makes you feel better that you killed hundreds of thousands of defenseless Iraqis before the loss you are a pretty sick man. But it is not a win.


    Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine...
     
    20%, don't lie. It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning. Ukies have losses close to half a million: dead, seriously wounded, POWs. What are you celebrating?

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @John Johnson

    US lost the war in Iraq

    It is 100% undeniable that the U.S. military handily Won the War. The Iraqi military and government crumbled. Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein’s regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.

    Where GW Bush failed was the post-war period — He Lost the Peace. The wise move would have been a 3 or 4 way partition. Trying to go for a Lebanon style weak federation was doomed before it even launched.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein’s regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.
     
    Saddam Hussein is not Iraq. Saddam lost the war. Iraq won it.

    In the same vein, Taliban is not Afghanistan. Taliban first lost the war, then Afghanistan (with the same Taliban at the head) won it.

    What matters is the end result, not “mission accomplished” BS.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

  671. @A123
    @Beckow


    US lost the war in Iraq
     
    It is 100% undeniable that the U.S. military handily Won the War. The Iraqi military and government crumbled. Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein's regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.

    Where GW Bush failed was the post-war period -- He Lost the Peace. The wise move would have been a 3 or 4 way partition. Trying to go for a Lebanon style weak federation was doomed before it even launched.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein’s regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.

    Saddam Hussein is not Iraq. Saddam lost the war. Iraq won it.

    In the same vein, Taliban is not Afghanistan. Taliban first lost the war, then Afghanistan (with the same Taliban at the head) won it.

    What matters is the end result, not “mission accomplished” BS.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AnonfromTN

    Did the U.S. military defeat the Iraqi military? YES. Therefore in normal English language usage, the U.S. military won the war.

    Your unfounded declaration that the Iraqi military defeated the U.S. military and won the war is, on its face, absolutely ludicrous. The Iraqi Republic Guard Corps crumbled. Other Iraqi forces were bought off before the first shot was fired. Thousands of Iraqis surrounded to unarmed scout helicopters and humvees.

    Do you really think that the Iraqi military defeated U.S. forces?
    ____

    You are approaching a potentially interesting point. However, if you want to be understood, you need to respect the conventions of English language usage.

    What GW Bush screwed up was the post-war period, not the military war. After winning the military war, nation building and reconstruction was an epic failure. Partition was clearly the best idea, but GW refused it.

    PEACE 😇

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein’s regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.

    Saddam Hussein is not Iraq. Saddam lost the war. Iraq won it.
     
    Better than what Beckow said. But winning a war means a military victory.

    About the Soviet-German war, would you say that Hitler lost the war, but Germany won it?

    Ever heard of the referendums in Donbass in 2014?
     
    Do you also believe that the referendums in Kherson and Zaporizhia of 2023 were legitimate?
  672. @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein’s regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.
     
    Saddam Hussein is not Iraq. Saddam lost the war. Iraq won it.

    In the same vein, Taliban is not Afghanistan. Taliban first lost the war, then Afghanistan (with the same Taliban at the head) won it.

    What matters is the end result, not “mission accomplished” BS.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    Did the U.S. military defeat the Iraqi military? YES. Therefore in normal English language usage, the U.S. military won the war.

    Your unfounded declaration that the Iraqi military defeated the U.S. military and won the war is, on its face, absolutely ludicrous. The Iraqi Republic Guard Corps crumbled. Other Iraqi forces were bought off before the first shot was fired. Thousands of Iraqis surrounded to unarmed scout helicopters and humvees.

    Do you really think that the Iraqi military defeated U.S. forces?
    ____

    You are approaching a potentially interesting point. However, if you want to be understood, you need to respect the conventions of English language usage.

    What GW Bush screwed up was the post-war period, not the military war. After winning the military war, nation building and reconstruction was an epic failure. Partition was clearly the best idea, but GW refused it.

    PEACE 😇

  673. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Ukraine should have found a way to stay neutral.

    They chose to not elect the pro-NATO candidate in favor of Zelensky.

    Zelensky ran on a neutral platform and had no plans to join NATO.

    That isn't enough? What else should they have done?

    Your desire is for the Ukrainians to submit to Russian rule, correct?

    Why do you have a hard time plainly stating that the Ukrainians do not want to submit to Russian rule?

    Is there a crucial segment to the long video?

    Is shows what life is like in totalitarian Russia. Do you think most Russians want to live in a country where a protestor was anally raped with a flashlight by the police?

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC

    I watched your video and now I know: war is hell, water is wet. The subjects of the video fell into the abyss as often happens to anti-war dissidents in countries at war. The main difference compared to dissidents in English-speaking countries is that Russia is actually being threatened by outside forces directly on her border. The precipitating events were the Maidan coup and shelling in Donbas, but adults understand the expansion of NATO and placement of USA missile bases in Eastern Europe are directly related to this process. All of these moves were instigated by the West. No one has offered a justification saying, “yeah but we were only reacting since Russia did something first”. All of this is an extended and concerted attempt to break the sovereignty of Russia.

    Critics of Russia in the Western media like to pretend this is not happening in a country closely linked to Russia which shared brotherly ties for over a millennia (not continuously, people are people).

    I hope the gentle people in the video survive and eventually realize that the West was playing Russia and Ukraine against each other to destroy them both. The biggest realization one can have is that the West is self-consciously risking nuclear war in the process. I think this last point is a reason many people are confused by this conflict. They intuitively know the actions of the West are extremely dangerous and “it breaks their brains” to face this fact.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @QCIC


    All of these moves were instigated by the West. No one has offered a justification saying, “yeah but we were only reacting since Russia did something first”.
     
    Nevertheless, this despicable excuse is still alive and used by the West's warmongers. Similarly, for destroying Nord Stream...just because "it was there and built by Russia".

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Russian KIA is approximately the same total as the MIA and KIA for Germany in the battle of France. Ukies have done about as much death dealing as France in 1940. But have preserved their capital city. So far.

    Replies: @AP

  674. Bashibuzuk says:

    It’s reassuring to see that some things really don’t change. Reading through the comments, I felt as if I watched from some vantage point the Earth calmly revolving around the Dun. Such a peaceful feeling to permanence.

    Blinky are you still around sometimes?

    Where is our “Asian bromance” friend?

    Did Altan reappear?

    LatW, being bitter bout these pesky Russkies doesn’t do you any good. You are too clever to blindly hate for the rest of your life.

    Mikel and Dima are as brilliant debaters as usual and the (lack of) outcome of their debates is just as predictable.

    Same about AP and Bekow.

    Greetings to Mr Hack and Pr. AnonfromTN.

    Greetings to our Sikh friend as well.

    Greetings of course to my esoteric friend Emil and our idiosyncratic friend songbird.

    And yeah, I’ve been to Bali a few months ago and immensely enjoyed seeing Swastikas featured prominently on the old Balinese Hindu temples. Russian language was often spoken by tourists (draft dodgers) both the Katsap and the who seemed to get along just fine. It felt kinda home…

    Speaking of home, this old Soviet medical video makes me feel nostalgic:

    In retrospect, the world was then a much saner place.

    Alright, I wish you all well.

    Не скучайте без меня!

    🙂

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Bashibuzuk


    Russian language was often spoken by tourists (draft dodgers) both the Katsap and the who seemed to get along just fine.
     
    …the Katsap and the Khokhol…
    , @AnonfromTN
    @Bashibuzuk

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Bali was my least favorite Indonesian island. Java was authentic Indonesian, Jakarta and Jogja were a bit overcrowded, but that’s part of being Indonesian. Barabudur and Prambanan near Jogja were very interesting. In Prambanan we had a really knowledgeable guide who participated in its restoration after an earthquake. Flores was exotic and underpopulated. That was the only island where you can get hard liquor, from Dutch hotel owners and from Papuans who make it from palm juice using sunshine rectification apparatus made 100% from wood. Their arak is very good. Bali is in a way interesting, but its Hindus are more inclined to cheat than Moslem and Christian Indonesians.

    That was some years ago, so no draft dodgers were in evidence. In fact, we heard a lot less Russian in Indonesia than in any European country we visited.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    It looks like an exalted and familiar wind has reemerged from the East. That's a good thing, as I always enjoyed his conspiracy theories so much more than those of that Ukrainophobe kremlinstoogeA123 (so much more interesting and believable, at least most of them). :-)

    https://open.spotify.com/album/6A3DEe0fuhMHURqABE90Tf?si=RzGKzTsFT8Obvs7Rljg9BQ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Mikel
    @Bashibuzuk

    Welcome back Bashibuzuk. I envy your ability to leave this forum and disappear for months. Whenever I try to do that, I find that there are no other places on the internet to hold uncensored, long-form discussions on matters of my interest and I end up coming back here, where as even some of the protagonists confess, the discussions are desperately repetitive.

    Thank you for the kind words too. However, I couldn't disagree more with you. The outcome of the debate Dmitry is trying to have with the whole medical establishment is more than predictable. As a matter of fact, I was wondering if there is a cultural disconnect and I'm not reading him right. Could it be that you Russians are prone to categorical statements, not to be taken literally but just as a provocative way of debating? I think I've seen you and AnonfromTN making bold assertions too, though probably not as bold as Dmitry's.

    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don't exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?

    Hope you stick around for a while anyway. Just take it easy and don't make your wife reprimand you. We're all on the same boat, it may be annoying when she starts nagging in the middle of a heated debate but at the end of the day wives make us be more grounded to the earth.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Bashibuzuk

    , @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @Bashibuzuk

    Sorry for the late reply, I too have been busy.





    https://youtu.be/9Sb3SkOYVrE?si=ddMnyHHOC7RGNWm7


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMZ9TrgbcAAVQU5.jpg

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  675. @Bashibuzuk
    It’s reassuring to see that some things really don’t change. Reading through the comments, I felt as if I watched from some vantage point the Earth calmly revolving around the Dun. Such a peaceful feeling to permanence.

    Blinky are you still around sometimes?

    Where is our “Asian bromance” friend?

    Did Altan reappear?

    LatW, being bitter bout these pesky Russkies doesn’t do you any good. You are too clever to blindly hate for the rest of your life.

    Mikel and Dima are as brilliant debaters as usual and the (lack of) outcome of their debates is just as predictable.

    Same about AP and Bekow.

    Greetings to Mr Hack and Pr. AnonfromTN.

    Greetings to our Sikh friend as well.

    Greetings of course to my esoteric friend Emil and our idiosyncratic friend songbird.

    And yeah, I’ve been to Bali a few months ago and immensely enjoyed seeing Swastikas featured prominently on the old Balinese Hindu temples. Russian language was often spoken by tourists (draft dodgers) both the Katsap and the who seemed to get along just fine. It felt kinda home…

    Speaking of home, this old Soviet medical video makes me feel nostalgic:

    https://youtu.be/Yz0h1DlurHo?feature=shared

    In retrospect, the world was then a much saner place.

    Alright, I wish you all well.

    Не скучайте без меня!

    🙂

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @Mikel, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Russian language was often spoken by tourists (draft dodgers) both the Katsap and the who seemed to get along just fine.

    …the Katsap and the Khokhol…

  676. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Number of cats in their house + number of neighborhood cats they feed and pretend aren't really their close friends. Have you seen the Sapolsky crazy cat lady theory?

    Replies: @songbird

    Have you seen the Sapolsky crazy cat lady theory?

    an oldie but a goodie. BTW, takes a bit of scrolling, but I really like these anti-suffragette cat posters.
    https://www.kqed.org/arts/13891913/how-the-crazy-cat-lady-became-one-of-pop-cultures-most-enduring-sexist-tropes

    • Thanks: S1
    • Replies: @Negronicus
    @songbird

    Sapolsky: kike professor loves kike cat lady art ho and hates on catholics, popes, normies. You not even the real jews, professor.

  677. @Bashibuzuk
    It’s reassuring to see that some things really don’t change. Reading through the comments, I felt as if I watched from some vantage point the Earth calmly revolving around the Dun. Such a peaceful feeling to permanence.

    Blinky are you still around sometimes?

    Where is our “Asian bromance” friend?

    Did Altan reappear?

    LatW, being bitter bout these pesky Russkies doesn’t do you any good. You are too clever to blindly hate for the rest of your life.

    Mikel and Dima are as brilliant debaters as usual and the (lack of) outcome of their debates is just as predictable.

    Same about AP and Bekow.

    Greetings to Mr Hack and Pr. AnonfromTN.

    Greetings to our Sikh friend as well.

    Greetings of course to my esoteric friend Emil and our idiosyncratic friend songbird.

    And yeah, I’ve been to Bali a few months ago and immensely enjoyed seeing Swastikas featured prominently on the old Balinese Hindu temples. Russian language was often spoken by tourists (draft dodgers) both the Katsap and the who seemed to get along just fine. It felt kinda home…

    Speaking of home, this old Soviet medical video makes me feel nostalgic:

    https://youtu.be/Yz0h1DlurHo?feature=shared

    In retrospect, the world was then a much saner place.

    Alright, I wish you all well.

    Не скучайте без меня!

    🙂

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @Mikel, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Bali was my least favorite Indonesian island. Java was authentic Indonesian, Jakarta and Jogja were a bit overcrowded, but that’s part of being Indonesian. Barabudur and Prambanan near Jogja were very interesting. In Prambanan we had a really knowledgeable guide who participated in its restoration after an earthquake. Flores was exotic and underpopulated. That was the only island where you can get hard liquor, from Dutch hotel owners and from Papuans who make it from palm juice using sunshine rectification apparatus made 100% from wood. Their arak is very good. Bali is in a way interesting, but its Hindus are more inclined to cheat than Moslem and Christian Indonesians.

    That was some years ago, so no draft dodgers were in evidence. In fact, we heard a lot less Russian in Indonesia than in any European country we visited.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @AnonfromTN

    That was some years ago, so no draft dodgers were in evidence. In fact, we heard a lot less Russian in Indonesia than in any European country we visited.


    Some 58,000 Russians visited this Southeast Asian idyll in 2022 following its post-Covid reopening, and a further 22,500 arrived in January 2023 alone, according to the Indonesian government, making them the second biggest group of visitors after Australians. Adding to their number are the more than 7,000 Ukrainians who arrived in 2022, and some 2,500 in the first month of this year.
     

    “A lot of people who disagreed with the war flew to Bali – Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and others,” he added. “We all get along well with each other… and understand that ordinary people did not start this war.
     
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/asia/indonesia-russians-ukrainians-fleeing-war-intl-hnk/index.html
  678. Have you ever read the Peter Levenda spiel about Hitler’s last days in Indonesia? He worked for a time in southeast Asia. Some people think he worked for the CIA in southeast Asia.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Some say that Obama’s mom might have worked for the CIA when they lived in Indonesia. She supposedly used her anthropology credentials to infiltrate the local communities and inform on their political leanings. And of course her local husband, Barry’s step dad, was a special forces’ officer in the Indonesian army around the time when Communist sympathizers got slaughtered there in their hundreds of thousands. The US involvement in that slaughter is a well known fact:

    https://apnews.com/article/id-a14d23b403804c548b3c6da3428827fa

    And re. uncle Adi’s final days, I prefer thinking that he took a Luftwaffe Flying Saucer and went to Nibiru to meet his Reptilian (Naga ?) overlords.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  679. @Matra
    @songbird


    A better question might be how does a nationalist party become woke?
     
    The ScotsNats used to be known as Tartan Tories. They were usually right wing and aggressively Orange Protestant, or at least anti-Catholic. Some time - I'm guessing the 1990s - they started getting some Irish Catholic descendants from the Glasgow area who seemed to be motivated by anti-English sentiment. Wherever in Britain the Irish go - Liverpool being the main example - leftist politics follow. I don't recall former leader Alex Salmond being all that PC, though he was a bit, but as younger more leftist anti-English/British elements joined the party they moved left on social issues, like all other liberal/leftist parties in the completely Americanised Anglosphere. Brexit, perceived as right wing, probably helped push the SNP even more to the left.

    Replies: @songbird

    Wherever in Britain the Irish go – Liverpool being the main example – leftist politics follow.

    I think that is true of any urban center. In Ireland, it’s Dublin (see the ballot about families and women) and to a certain extent, some blame Anglos.

  680. Bashibuzuk says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @Bashibuzuk

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Bali was my least favorite Indonesian island. Java was authentic Indonesian, Jakarta and Jogja were a bit overcrowded, but that’s part of being Indonesian. Barabudur and Prambanan near Jogja were very interesting. In Prambanan we had a really knowledgeable guide who participated in its restoration after an earthquake. Flores was exotic and underpopulated. That was the only island where you can get hard liquor, from Dutch hotel owners and from Papuans who make it from palm juice using sunshine rectification apparatus made 100% from wood. Their arak is very good. Bali is in a way interesting, but its Hindus are more inclined to cheat than Moslem and Christian Indonesians.

    That was some years ago, so no draft dodgers were in evidence. In fact, we heard a lot less Russian in Indonesia than in any European country we visited.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    That was some years ago, so no draft dodgers were in evidence. In fact, we heard a lot less Russian in Indonesia than in any European country we visited.

    Some 58,000 Russians visited this Southeast Asian idyll in 2022 following its post-Covid reopening, and a further 22,500 arrived in January 2023 alone, according to the Indonesian government, making them the second biggest group of visitors after Australians. Adding to their number are the more than 7,000 Ukrainians who arrived in 2022, and some 2,500 in the first month of this year.

    “A lot of people who disagreed with the war flew to Bali – Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and others,” he added. “We all get along well with each other… and understand that ordinary people did not start this war.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/asia/indonesia-russians-ukrainians-fleeing-war-intl-hnk/index.html

  681. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    Have you ever read the Peter Levenda spiel about Hitler's last days in Indonesia? He worked for a time in southeast Asia. Some people think he worked for the CIA in southeast Asia.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Some say that Obama’s mom might have worked for the CIA when they lived in Indonesia. She supposedly used her anthropology credentials to infiltrate the local communities and inform on their political leanings. And of course her local husband, Barry’s step dad, was a special forces’ officer in the Indonesian army around the time when Communist sympathizers got slaughtered there in their hundreds of thousands. The US involvement in that slaughter is a well known fact:

    https://apnews.com/article/id-a14d23b403804c548b3c6da3428827fa

    And re. uncle Adi’s final days, I prefer thinking that he took a Luftwaffe Flying Saucer and went to Nibiru to meet his Reptilian (Naga ?) overlords.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    Levenda's tale is intriguing. He has Eva Braun disguised as nurse and Adolf disguised in wheelchair going from Berlin to a couple intermediate locations then to Indonesia. They lived there for awhile then Eva sneaks back to Europe after a few years. Adolf passes away in the 1960's after marrying a local woman and impersonating a doctor to a small cluster of villages. The doctor has a tombstone which Levenda has visited. He says after a couple of more people die he is going to release all his documentation.

    Peter Levenda is a professional story teller at this point in his life.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Bundesarchiv_B_145_Bild-F051673-0059%2C_Adolf_Hitler_und_Eva_Braun_auf_dem_Berghof.jpg/1280px-Bundesarchiv_B_145_Bild-F051673-0059%2C_Adolf_Hitler_und_Eva_Braun_auf_dem_Berghof.jpg

  682. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I watched your video and now I know: war is hell, water is wet. The subjects of the video fell into the abyss as often happens to anti-war dissidents in countries at war. The main difference compared to dissidents in English-speaking countries is that Russia is actually being threatened by outside forces directly on her border. The precipitating events were the Maidan coup and shelling in Donbas, but adults understand the expansion of NATO and placement of USA missile bases in Eastern Europe are directly related to this process. All of these moves were instigated by the West. No one has offered a justification saying, "yeah but we were only reacting since Russia did something first". All of this is an extended and concerted attempt to break the sovereignty of Russia.

    Critics of Russia in the Western media like to pretend this is not happening in a country closely linked to Russia which shared brotherly ties for over a millennia (not continuously, people are people).

    I hope the gentle people in the video survive and eventually realize that the West was playing Russia and Ukraine against each other to destroy them both. The biggest realization one can have is that the West is self-consciously risking nuclear war in the process. I think this last point is a reason many people are confused by this conflict. They intuitively know the actions of the West are extremely dangerous and "it breaks their brains" to face this fact.

    Replies: @Derer, @Wokechoke

    All of these moves were instigated by the West. No one has offered a justification saying, “yeah but we were only reacting since Russia did something first”.

    Nevertheless, this despicable excuse is still alive and used by the West’s warmongers. Similarly, for destroying Nord Stream…just because “it was there and built by Russia”.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Derer

    I don't see these excuses very often in a specific form. I encounter the more extreme and sweeping excuses along the line that Russians are fundamentally aggressive and barbaric, have been and always will be. This one is cute when it comes from Ukies who probably had some Russian ancestors!

    Replies: @LT1488, @Mikhail

  683. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I watched your video and now I know: war is hell, water is wet. The subjects of the video fell into the abyss as often happens to anti-war dissidents in countries at war. The main difference compared to dissidents in English-speaking countries is that Russia is actually being threatened by outside forces directly on her border. The precipitating events were the Maidan coup and shelling in Donbas, but adults understand the expansion of NATO and placement of USA missile bases in Eastern Europe are directly related to this process. All of these moves were instigated by the West. No one has offered a justification saying, "yeah but we were only reacting since Russia did something first". All of this is an extended and concerted attempt to break the sovereignty of Russia.

    Critics of Russia in the Western media like to pretend this is not happening in a country closely linked to Russia which shared brotherly ties for over a millennia (not continuously, people are people).

    I hope the gentle people in the video survive and eventually realize that the West was playing Russia and Ukraine against each other to destroy them both. The biggest realization one can have is that the West is self-consciously risking nuclear war in the process. I think this last point is a reason many people are confused by this conflict. They intuitively know the actions of the West are extremely dangerous and "it breaks their brains" to face this fact.

    Replies: @Derer, @Wokechoke

    Russian KIA is approximately the same total as the MIA and KIA for Germany in the battle of France. Ukies have done about as much death dealing as France in 1940. But have preserved their capital city. So far.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Wokechoke


    Russian KIA is approximately the same total as the MIA and KIA for Germany in the battle of France
     
    No. France managed to inflict German KIA of 27,000 and missing of over 18,000 (so around 45,000 dead) when Germany captured Paris and defeated France.

    Russian confirmed KIA is over 51,000 and the actual number of Russian dead is estimated at over 100,000.* This does not include Donbas militia killed. Russia has only managed to take about 9% of the country since 2022 and does not hold a single provincial capital. Ukraine regularly bombs deep into Russia itself - something France was not capable of doing to Germany.

    At this point the closest analogy might be the American Civil War - if the Confederacy had a land border with Europe through which it was able to obtain a steady stream of modern weapons systems superior to those used by the Union. The war might have turned out differently had that been the case.

    *This estimate of 75,000 Russian dead (not including MIA or Donbas soldiers) was for the end of 2023:

    https://en.zona.media/article/2024/02/24/75k
  684. Bashibuzuk says:

    Tucker and Dugin discuss how liberalism would lead to Transhumanism and Singularity through LGBTQ+ liberal individualism:

    Where is Tolik when we need him?

    (Good thing that when young, I didn’t know that to be interested in Cosmism / Transhumanism, I necessarily had to be Gay. Otherwise, what might have happened to me. Perhaps I would have been forced to join Karlin’s “elite human capital” and get married with some random dude. 🙂)

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    Why get married to some "random dude", when you could set your sights on Tolik himself?

    https://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/jIyO3ux.jpg
    All things are possible for those that wait. I never would have thought that a standing US president would be photographed like this at one time. But now? :-)

    Do these two "dudes" look like identical twins? Anything goes nowadays.

    , @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    Referring to Dugin as "Putin's Brain" never made much sense to me. In the US, this phrasing became popular during the George W. Bush political era. The political strategist Karl Rove was widely considered (and accepted!) to be "Bush's brain", at least functionally but probably not literally. Bush was an idiot so this made sense. On the other hand, his true fans desperately wanted to believe he was faking his mental dullness for effect.

    Since Putin is obviously mentally competent and apparently very bright, referring to Dugin as his brain confuses me a bit. I wonder if this is an attempt to retroactively make Bush look smarter than he was, part of a long-term hagiography?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Bashibuzuk

  685. @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Some say that Obama’s mom might have worked for the CIA when they lived in Indonesia. She supposedly used her anthropology credentials to infiltrate the local communities and inform on their political leanings. And of course her local husband, Barry’s step dad, was a special forces’ officer in the Indonesian army around the time when Communist sympathizers got slaughtered there in their hundreds of thousands. The US involvement in that slaughter is a well known fact:

    https://apnews.com/article/id-a14d23b403804c548b3c6da3428827fa

    And re. uncle Adi’s final days, I prefer thinking that he took a Luftwaffe Flying Saucer and went to Nibiru to meet his Reptilian (Naga ?) overlords.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Levenda’s tale is intriguing. He has Eva Braun disguised as nurse and Adolf disguised in wheelchair going from Berlin to a couple intermediate locations then to Indonesia. They lived there for awhile then Eva sneaks back to Europe after a few years. Adolf passes away in the 1960’s after marrying a local woman and impersonating a doctor to a small cluster of villages. The doctor has a tombstone which Levenda has visited. He says after a couple of more people die he is going to release all his documentation.

    Peter Levenda is a professional story teller at this point in his life.

    • Thanks: Bashibuzuk
  686. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    I wasn’t discussing Sastin.
     
    The only large crowd picture you attached was of the Sastin pilgrimage...was that an attempt to mislead or were you sloppy?

    Slovak government says arrested...
     
    No they don't, nobody said it in 1988. Who were the "arrested"? There are no names or charges...In a small country we would know. And how about the Austrians "participating'? Is that normal?

    You are linking propaganda from decades later by Christian Democrats who had temporary control of some institutions. They no longer do. The Catholic Christian Democrat Party has 6% support in elections - they are barely in Parliament. Is that your idea of a "religious" country?

    In Czechia they got 5.8% - it's about the same. You know nothing about us.

    Replies: @AP

    I wasn’t discussing Sastin.

    The only large crowd picture you attached was of the Sastin pilgrimage…

    Don’t lie as usual. It was not. The picture I attached was of the 1988 demonstration, a lot of people with umbrellas.

    The picture labeled as Sastin was completely different:

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    were you sloppy?

    That would be you false claim, above.

    Slovak government says arrested…

    No they don’t, nobody said it in 1988.

    According to whom, Beckow? The guy who can’t keep a story straight?

    I posted links to Slovak government websites stating arrested.

    From your government:

    https://www.upn.gov.sk/data/files/SKL-SVIECKOVA-EN-web.pdf

    “141 citizens were arrested by the security forces”

    There are no names or charges

    Because you claimed there aren’t?

    As for charges:

    https://hi-storylessons.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Candle-demonstration.pdf

    Security authorities arrested 141, including thirteen foreign journalists. At the District National Committee Bratislava I the security authorities accused seventy seven citizens of participating in a demonstration with the offence of breaching public order. The court punishment of demonstrators fell under the jurisdiction of District Court Bratislava I, which issued summons in 17 cases in September 1988.

    You are linking propaganda from decades later by Christian Democrats who had temporary control of some institutions.

    And yet the current government retains the information.

    Let’s summarize – Encyclopedia Britannica – propaganda. Slovak government portals – propaganda. Beckow – not propaganda. 🙂

    You know nothing about us.

    And you have proven to know even less than I do. It’s what happens when your mind is filled with bad teachings in substandard schools.

  687. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    US lost the war in Iraq. If it makes you feel better that you killed hundreds of thousands of defenseless Iraqis before the loss you are a pretty sick man. But it is not a win.


    Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine...
     
    20%, don't lie. It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning. Ukies have losses close to half a million: dead, seriously wounded, POWs. What are you celebrating?

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @John Johnson

    US lost the war in Iraq.

    US said it fought the war to prevent Saddam from getting his hands on Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    And he didn’t.

    You claim that Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent Ukraine from getting into NATO, and that because Ukraine isn’t in NATO Russia “won.”

    You are stupid but you are not consistent in your stupidity. If Russia won because Ukraine isn’t in NATO (it wasn’t anyways), USA won because Saddam didn’t get WMDs.

    But more realistically, America occupied the entire country and arrested and/or killed its leadership. It installed the government of its choosing.

    Russia has only taken 8%-9% of Ukraine in over 2 years. Zelensky is still in power. Ukraine now regularly bombs Russia itself.

    You beclown yourself when you claim USA lost, but Russia is “winning.”

    Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine…

    20%, don’t lie.

    We are talking about the invasion of February 2022 – the so-called SMO. 10% was taken in 2014.

    I know you are desperate of course.

    It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning.

    As I said before:

    Imagine that 2 years after invading Iraq, the Americans failed to take Baghdad or any provincial capital, only managed to grab 8% or 9% of the country near the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders, lost a lot of casualties (100,000+ dead) and 1/3 of their ships in the Persian Gulf, while having the Iraqis successfully start and expand a drone-bomb campaign in US soil, destroying US factories or oil refineries right at home.

    It would be quite comical for a desperate pro-American to brag that the Iraqis are “losing” because they lost 9% of their territory and some valuable oil wells near the border to the American invaders.

    Does Beckow realize how ridiculous he is? Probably not.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war. But you think differently. US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers. They also killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi civilians. Is that not a war crime? US waged an aggressive war half-way around the world, killed civilians, then left in a hurry. That is both a crime and lost war. That's the way everyone sees it and how people in the future will look at it.

    Killing the unpopular leader is not winning. The lie that "US started the war because of WMD's" is beneath us. It was such on obvious lie and a cheap excuse, that you using it demeans you even more. Fine, you a fanatic believer, but you don't get to pretend that "it was all ok, 'cause WMDs!" This is Unz, people here presumably have 3-digit IQs (ok, there is Mr. Hack, but he is harmless).

    Russia is winning in Ukraine. The only question is whether it will be a small 20% win with and neutral Ukraine, or a big win. Bombing Russia is insignificant, I am surprised you use it - like the terrorism in US, UK, France (lots of it in the recent years) - it changes nothing materially and only makes people more angry and willing to fight.

    Even your numbers are wrong, 10+8=18 not the current 21-22%. But the war is about all of the disputed territories, including Crimea. That's what Zelko and the Western sponsors say - they are the ones fighting, not you. And how about that "paused offensive"? When is it going to restart?

    You are basically a moron so there is no point trying to explain it to you - you are so ideologically committed that you don't see reality from both sides. Good luck with that, it never works...

    Replies: @John Johnson, @John Johnson, @A123, @AP

  688. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein’s regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.
     
    Saddam Hussein is not Iraq. Saddam lost the war. Iraq won it.

    In the same vein, Taliban is not Afghanistan. Taliban first lost the war, then Afghanistan (with the same Taliban at the head) won it.

    What matters is the end result, not “mission accomplished” BS.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    Your suggestion that Saddam Hussein’s regime defeated American military forces is hard to fathom.

    Saddam Hussein is not Iraq. Saddam lost the war. Iraq won it.

    Better than what Beckow said. But winning a war means a military victory.

    About the Soviet-German war, would you say that Hitler lost the war, but Germany won it?

    Ever heard of the referendums in Donbass in 2014?

    Do you also believe that the referendums in Kherson and Zaporizhia of 2023 were legitimate?

  689. @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    Russian society is too low trust
     
    Were you ever in Russia? Do you have any first-hand experience with Russian society? If not, your opinion is as valid as my opinion about the society on Nibiru.

    Replies: @Sean

    While I know less, I can perhaps be more objective about it than actual Russians. I have read Peter Turchin on the basis of Russia society, and Ukrainian society even more so (Roxolana). What Peter Frost says of Russia is relevant. In 2015 he was quite prescient I think
    https://www.unz.com/pfrost/impressions-of-russia/

    In my opinion Russia is the opposite of Denmark, which is the W.E.IR.D.est of all countries (and the least warlike).

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    I have read Peter Turchin on the basis of Russia society
     
    Peter Turchin was last time on Russian territory back in the USSR in 1986. I know because I was in the same group with him at Moscow State University. He never was in modern Russia (the RF). I have no idea what he says now, but I know for sure that it is not based on personal experience.

    What Peter Frost says of Russia is relevant.
     
    Did he ever live in Russia to get first-hand experience? To know how Russian society functions you have to not only be there, but to earn your living there for at least a year or two. Otherwise what he says is as relevant as my opinion about Martian society.

    As a scientist I know for sure that my opinion about Russian society based on annual 2-3-week visits is limited, even though I get some additional info from relatives and other people I deal with who live and work there. The opinions of people who have even less first-hand experience are simply worthless.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  690. @Bashibuzuk
    It’s reassuring to see that some things really don’t change. Reading through the comments, I felt as if I watched from some vantage point the Earth calmly revolving around the Dun. Such a peaceful feeling to permanence.

    Blinky are you still around sometimes?

    Where is our “Asian bromance” friend?

    Did Altan reappear?

    LatW, being bitter bout these pesky Russkies doesn’t do you any good. You are too clever to blindly hate for the rest of your life.

    Mikel and Dima are as brilliant debaters as usual and the (lack of) outcome of their debates is just as predictable.

    Same about AP and Bekow.

    Greetings to Mr Hack and Pr. AnonfromTN.

    Greetings to our Sikh friend as well.

    Greetings of course to my esoteric friend Emil and our idiosyncratic friend songbird.

    And yeah, I’ve been to Bali a few months ago and immensely enjoyed seeing Swastikas featured prominently on the old Balinese Hindu temples. Russian language was often spoken by tourists (draft dodgers) both the Katsap and the who seemed to get along just fine. It felt kinda home…

    Speaking of home, this old Soviet medical video makes me feel nostalgic:

    https://youtu.be/Yz0h1DlurHo?feature=shared

    In retrospect, the world was then a much saner place.

    Alright, I wish you all well.

    Не скучайте без меня!

    🙂

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @Mikel, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    It looks like an exalted and familiar wind has reemerged from the East. That’s a good thing, as I always enjoyed his conspiracy theories so much more than those of that Ukrainophobe kremlinstoogeA123 (so much more interesting and believable, at least most of them). 🙂

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack


    It looks like an exalted and familiar wind has reemerged from the East.
     
    Ex orienti lux !

    Safe with most medications:

    https://youtu.be/ZdqTqFOEP58?feature=shared

    🙂

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  691. @Mr. Hack
    @Cesar1191


    Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it.
     
    Any idea what that may be? So far only decimated Mariupol and some unpopulated fields in Donbas.

    Since you don't bring up the possibility of Russia subduing Ukraine, it appears that you think that this is not a realistic possibility at this point?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Cesar1191, @John Johnson

    Beckow now wants us to measure the war by % of land taken.

    So they told us it wasn’t Russian Imperialism but we now need to re-measure the war by how much land Russia has taken from its neighbor through violence.

    Got it.

    I really think backing the 2.5 week special military operation now on year 2.5 is really going to work out for Putin’s defenders. It was clearly a great idea and can only get better from this point on.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    I don't know who will flinch first, Putler or Zelensky. Both are intent on controlling the Crimea?..

  692. @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine

    You keep repeating this nonsense, as if it’s true. It’s your new mantra and you include it in almost all of your replies these days
     
    I like AaronB’s interpretation of that as a sort of desperate prayer or invocation. They hope that if they repeat it enough it will become true.

    Imagine that 2 years after invading Iraq, the Americans failed to take Baghdad or any provincial capital, only managed to grab 8% or 9% of the country near the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders, lost a lot of casualties (100,000+ dead) and 1/3 of their ships in the Persian Gulf, while having the Iraqis successfully start and expand a drone-bomb campaign US soil, destroying US factories or oil refineries right at home.

    It would be quite comical for a desperate pro-American to brag that the Iraqis are “losing” because they lost 9% of their territory and some valuable oil wells near the border to the American invaders.

    Does Beckow realize how ridiculous he is? Probably not.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    Beckow, the socialist always right but often filling the skies with dark clouds that obscure the sky (and the truth).

  693. @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    Beckow now wants us to measure the war by % of land taken.

    So they told us it wasn't Russian Imperialism but we now need to re-measure the war by how much land Russia has taken from its neighbor through violence.

    Got it.

    I really think backing the 2.5 week special military operation now on year 2.5 is really going to work out for Putin's defenders. It was clearly a great idea and can only get better from this point on.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I don’t know who will flinch first, Putler or Zelensky. Both are intent on controlling the Crimea?..

    • LOL: Mikhail
  694. @Derer
    @sudden death

    Do you mean the Minsk promises?

    Replies: @sudden death

    No, it was about Istanbul accords, which still haven’t been published in full by anyone AFAIK, but Minsk also was done after UA was immediately rewarded by RF with subsequent assault on Donbas after chosing not to resist militarily in Crimea.

  695. @Beckow
    @AP

    US lost the war in Iraq. If it makes you feel better that you killed hundreds of thousands of defenseless Iraqis before the loss you are a pretty sick man. But it is not a win.


    Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine...
     
    20%, don't lie. It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning. Ukies have losses close to half a million: dead, seriously wounded, POWs. What are you celebrating?

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @John Johnson

    US lost the war in Iraq. If it makes you feel better that you killed hundreds of thousands of defenseless Iraqis before the loss you are a pretty sick man. But it is not a win.

    So this would be the winner of the war?

    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.KQYnLNFoOicd7_LrQfx6jgHaFj?w=219&h=180&c=7&r=0&o=5&pid=1.7

    20%, don’t lie. It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning. Ukies have losses close to half a million: dead, seriously wounded, POWs. What are you celebrating?

    Putin didn’t start the war with this statement:
    I’m gonna lie about giving DPR/LPR full autonomy and then try to take as much Ukrainian land as I can. Wish me luck.

    Did you see in the news that the US is supposedly sending 1000 ATACMS missiles to Ukraine?

    Anything that enters Ukraine can be destroyed.

    The belief that Russia can always find endless cannon fodder is a myth. In fact the 1917 revolution was backed by the opposite reality. If the Russian military had been winning against Germany in 1917 then there never would have been a Soviet empire. The Russian troops were demoralized and wanted to go home. Lenin came along and said You can all be winners in your own way!. The original participation trophy.

  696. Copy pasted the wrong image.

    So this would be the winner of the Iraq war?
    Is that his victory photo?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    Looks like a a typical dude that you could run into, especially in California. :-)

    Or a photo of kremlinstoogeA123, the new poster boy for "Just don't huff any glue". :-)

  697. @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    An excellent comment, overall.
     
    Thanks!

    female variation is smaller than in men
     
    Makes biological sense. Evolution usually experiments on males first, because they are less important for the survival of the species. Reproduction rate is determined by the number of females, very few males would be sufficient (think cattle: one bull was enough for hundreds of cows even before artificial insemination).

    Ukraine is your blind spot.
     
    Ukraine happens to be the country I really know well. I was born there, lived there for ~18 years, visited my parents there many times after that, fluently speak the language, read most of Ukrainian literature, etc. E.g., I wouldn’t pontificate about Malaysia, Peru, or Kenya just because I visited those countries.

    there are plenty of brilliant women
     
    I am partial to smart women since my teens. Besides, my two best grad students were very smart and hard-working girls, one from the US, the other from China, my best technician was a girl from Cameroon, etc.

    Replies: @AP, @Another Polish Perspective

    OK, but could you tell us what’s the nature of brilliancy in biology?
    Admittedly, you don’t make new theories there like in physics, and then trying them either to advance or disprove.

    From what I heard from my IT friend writing software for biologists, you just gather large amounts of data, let’s say genetic, and then try to find meaningful sequences aka patterns in DNA with the help of computers.

    Few years ago I met someone who did her PhD on zebrafish, which is quite a small being. How can we talk about human genome when we didn’t solve the zebrafish, though?
    I am confused.

    • Replies: @Negronicus
    @Another Polish Perspective

    DNA be really small man. You think you don' left any behind but you do.

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    could you tell us what’s the nature of brilliancy in biology?
     
    Brilliance in biology is the same as in any real science: the ability to think right, come up with explanations that can be tested experimentally and survive experimental testing. This might be harder in biology than in other sciences. Living organisms (with the exception of viruses; viruses are intracellular parasites that highjack cell machinery and use it for their purposes) consist of cells. Cells contain DNA (genetic material), RNA, proteins, lipids, various small molecule metabolites, ions, and water. Proteins are workhorses of life. Every mammalian (including human) cell expresses ~10,000 different proteins, ranging in abundance from a few copies to 20 million per cell. Proteins are subject to post-translational modifications, which change their functional capabilities. Proteins are shapeshifting molecules existing in a complex equilibrium of many conformations. So, for each protein expressed there are 3-20 distinct functional entities. The cell is an autonomous self-governing and self-reproducing entity, which is ensured by a complex network of signaling with numerous feedback loops, etc. Complexity-wise a single cell beats any human megalopolis hands down.

    From what I heard from my IT friend writing software for biologists, you just gather large amounts of data, let’s say genetic, and then try to find meaningful sequences aka patterns in DNA with the help of computers.
     
    This probably describes GWAS (genome-wide association study). GWAS is usually done to look for genes that contribute to a particular disease. Another group of methods that generate large datasets and require software for analysis are various “omics” (proteomics, lipidomics, metabolomics, etc.). These “large data” methods are now fashionable, but IMO they are scientific dead ends. Say, you identify 100 potential suspects in GWAS or omics. What do you do next? To put it in simple terms, what does a hunter do when he sees 100 hares? Either nothing, or chases a single one. Same with these methods: you publish, deposit the results into one of the databases, forget it, and move on to the next study.

    Few years ago I met someone who did her PhD on zebrafish, which is quite a small being. How can we talk about human genome when we didn’t solve the zebrafish, though?
     
    We have zebrafish genome, as well as human genome and genomes of 100+ species. That tells you what proteins does a particular animal express, but it cannot possibly tell you how any one of these proteins works. Zebrafish are our distant relatives (vertebrates, but not mammals), their advantage is that they are transparent during development, their disadvantage is that, like most bony fish that have undergone a third round of whole genome duplication (we and most other vertebrates have undergone two) have too many genes.
  698. @songbird
    @AnonfromTN


    Nigra is not very close to the nose
     
    ,
    What I meant is that the olfactory center seems to be affected first in a lot of people. Diminished sense of smell is an early warning sign in many individuals which presents before other symptoms, sometimes as much a s a decade before. Patients have diminished volume in the olfactory bulb.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10581567/

    Replies: @songbird, @sudden death

    Personally know several relatively not old people (35-50 y.o. range) whom lost roughly about 70-80% of previous smell sensitivity and are able now to feel nothing but only very strong odours somewhat. And it all happened after mild, almost asymptomatic corona cases, so probably only after long(?) time now it will be possible to tell if this virus also can be capable to trigger/cause Parkinson disease on statistically significant levels.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @sudden death

    I once asked a woman who claimed a superior ability to smell whether she was a supertaster, and she didn't feel that she could answer confidently, which makes me think perhaps not. Whether coincidence or not, she was intelligent though.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @John Johnson
    @sudden death

    They have damaged tastebuds that can actually be viewed.

    Permanent changes to taste and smell are actually now rare with the newer variants.

    What is weird is that most people eventually got their taste back but it appears some will never have it return.

    I know one such person. He can't taste hardly anything but salt. When he has spicy foods he can feel the sensation but the taste isn't there. He had an early infection before the vaccine was out.

  699. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    OK, but could you tell us what's the nature of brilliancy in biology?
    Admittedly, you don't make new theories there like in physics, and then trying them either to advance or disprove.

    From what I heard from my IT friend writing software for biologists, you just gather large amounts of data, let's say genetic, and then try to find meaningful sequences aka patterns in DNA with the help of computers.

    Few years ago I met someone who did her PhD on zebrafish, which is quite a small being. How can we talk about human genome when we didn't solve the zebrafish, though?
    I am confused.

    Replies: @Negronicus, @AnonfromTN

    DNA be really small man. You think you don’ left any behind but you do.

  700. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Have you seen the Sapolsky crazy cat lady theory?
     
    an oldie but a goodie. BTW, takes a bit of scrolling, but I really like these anti-suffragette cat posters.
    https://www.kqed.org/arts/13891913/how-the-crazy-cat-lady-became-one-of-pop-cultures-most-enduring-sexist-tropes

    Replies: @Negronicus

    Sapolsky: kike professor loves kike cat lady art ho and hates on catholics, popes, normies. You not even the real jews, professor.

  701. @Dmitry
    @LatW


    Baltic States
     
    Because Baltic States are like the equivalent to Norway of the postsoviet states. After the 1990s, Baltic states recovered to multiple times higher GDP per capita than Ukraine. They have working governments with EU monitoring, they don't have wars or even political instability for thirty years.

    They are part of the EU internal market and received tens of billions of dollars direct transfers from the EU.

    Ukraine has war, political instability, corruption, industrial collapse. As the result Ukraine has tens of millions of poor people.
    -

    What happens with Ukraine is a scary failure of history. Not so many years in the past, the USSR was supposed to save the world.


    the Baltic States elderly Jews don’t really look like in those ads (they’re much better taken care of). These videos gave off a kind of a Boraty vibe.

     

    The number of Baltic Jews is smaller than the population of Izium. They can be urbanized middle class populations, but probably most of their infrastructure funded with support of external-donations, including maybe holocaust restitution from the German government, donations from wealthy American Jews.

    These a very small communities, but I have seen each of the three Baltic Jewish communities have multiple shiny schools with digital classroom equipment, though the population is a minority of a minority?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1e8RSqfJY.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgYIq6IwlgA.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdAIi_46Gc.

    I guess that's external donations funding not different than in Ukraine.

    Replies: @LatW, @sudden death

    Because Baltic States are like the equivalent to Norway of the postsoviet states. After the 1990s, Baltic states recovered to multiple times higher GDP per capita than Ukraine.

    Recently there was some optimistic snapshot about current politico/economic situation in Lithuania published in Bloomberg, but it was bit surprising to see it also noticing and being quite complimentary to existing trend of apsirational nation building ethos, which is actually rooted in quite strong local ethnonationalism framework:

    The biggest resource the country has, however, is not any particular expertise but its commitment to nation-building. The sense that this is a “golden age” goes along with a sense of vulnerability: Lithuanians are only too conscious that the only way that a tiny country like theirs can survive in a dangerous world is to build a high-tech economy that can outthink and outmaneuver its giant neighbors. Different industry groups are willing to share knowledge and money in order to create flourishing ecosystems. Companies also have an extraordinary ability to reinvent themselves as the situation changes — particularly as the threat of war has grown in recent years.

    To get a sense of the power of nation-building in shaping Lithuanian business, consider two companies in the laser-and-optics world — one an established company and the other a growing start-up.

    https://archive.ph/PPWL1

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @sudden death

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMcIKAkWQAA9Jk6.jpg

  702. @sudden death
    @songbird

    Personally know several relatively not old people (35-50 y.o. range) whom lost roughly about 70-80% of previous smell sensitivity and are able now to feel nothing but only very strong odours somewhat. And it all happened after mild, almost asymptomatic corona cases, so probably only after long(?) time now it will be possible to tell if this virus also can be capable to trigger/cause Parkinson disease on statistically significant levels.

    Replies: @songbird, @John Johnson

    I once asked a woman who claimed a superior ability to smell whether she was a supertaster, and she didn’t feel that she could answer confidently, which makes me think perhaps not. Whether coincidence or not, she was intelligent though.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Was she a synchro menstruater?

    Like she and 2/3 of her floor mates in the office all menstruate with peak flow on the same lunar calendar time point?

    Did you see that Joe Rogan episode where he and the guest (I forget who) were whiffing smelling salts?

    Hope there isn't any video of him and a guest doing poppers.

    Replies: @songbird

  703. AP says:
    @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Russian KIA is approximately the same total as the MIA and KIA for Germany in the battle of France. Ukies have done about as much death dealing as France in 1940. But have preserved their capital city. So far.

    Replies: @AP

    Russian KIA is approximately the same total as the MIA and KIA for Germany in the battle of France

    No. France managed to inflict German KIA of 27,000 and missing of over 18,000 (so around 45,000 dead) when Germany captured Paris and defeated France.

    Russian confirmed KIA is over 51,000 and the actual number of Russian dead is estimated at over 100,000.* This does not include Donbas militia killed. Russia has only managed to take about 9% of the country since 2022 and does not hold a single provincial capital. Ukraine regularly bombs deep into Russia itself – something France was not capable of doing to Germany.

    At this point the closest analogy might be the American Civil War – if the Confederacy had a land border with Europe through which it was able to obtain a steady stream of modern weapons systems superior to those used by the Union. The war might have turned out differently had that been the case.

    *This estimate of 75,000 Russian dead (not including MIA or Donbas soldiers) was for the end of 2023:

    https://en.zona.media/article/2024/02/24/75k

  704. @Bashibuzuk
    Tucker and Dugin discuss how liberalism would lead to Transhumanism and Singularity through LGBTQ+ liberal individualism:

    https://youtu.be/GIULmTprQ6o?feature=shared

    Where is Tolik when we need him?

    (Good thing that when young, I didn’t know that to be interested in Cosmism / Transhumanism, I necessarily had to be Gay. Otherwise, what might have happened to me. Perhaps I would have been forced to join Karlin’s “elite human capital” and get married with some random dude. 🙂)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC

    Why get married to some “random dude”, when you could set your sights on Tolik himself?
    All things are possible for those that wait. I never would have thought that a standing US president would be photographed like this at one time. But now? 🙂

    Do these two “dudes” look like identical twins? Anything goes nowadays.

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
  705. @John Johnson
    Copy pasted the wrong image.

    So this would be the winner of the Iraq war?
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01601/sadam_1601255c.jpg?imwidth=1280

    Is that his victory photo?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Looks like a a typical dude that you could run into, especially in California. 🙂

    Or a photo of kremlinstoogeA123, the new poster boy for “Just don’t huff any glue”. 🙂

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
  706. @songbird
    @sudden death

    I once asked a woman who claimed a superior ability to smell whether she was a supertaster, and she didn't feel that she could answer confidently, which makes me think perhaps not. Whether coincidence or not, she was intelligent though.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Was she a synchro menstruater?

    Like she and 2/3 of her floor mates in the office all menstruate with peak flow on the same lunar calendar time point?

    Did you see that Joe Rogan episode where he and the guest (I forget who) were whiffing smelling salts?

    Hope there isn’t any video of him and a guest doing poppers.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Don't believe she lived in the conditions for that to happen. She was a college professor.
    _________
    This seagull swallowed a squirrel:

    https://youtu.be/shkHrqW5bE0?si=ZnjrQQPL7eiL34Ou

    Would think the claws would wreak havoc on its guts. But I did once see a chicken swallow a live mouse. It literally pounded it down its throat, by wacking it against the ground.

  707. @Derer
    @QCIC


    All of these moves were instigated by the West. No one has offered a justification saying, “yeah but we were only reacting since Russia did something first”.
     
    Nevertheless, this despicable excuse is still alive and used by the West's warmongers. Similarly, for destroying Nord Stream...just because "it was there and built by Russia".

    Replies: @QCIC

    I don’t see these excuses very often in a specific form. I encounter the more extreme and sweeping excuses along the line that Russians are fundamentally aggressive and barbaric, have been and always will be. This one is cute when it comes from Ukies who probably had some Russian ancestors!

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @QCIC

    Whats even wrong with being ''fundamentally aggressive'' LOL

    , @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    NATO neocon/neolib enthusiasts have openly advocated forever wars as detailed in the below video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgQB3off6J4

    As Lindsey Graham said: to the last Ukrainian.

    Regarding Lloyd Austin:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYvwelh62jk

  708. AP says:
    @Cesar1191
    @AP


    I think in 2025 it will be clear what Ukraine can get from the USA, and both sides will be tired enough. So there should be peace by then.

     

    Hopefully the war ends soon, but unfortunately, that may be overly optimistic. It seems plausible that unless Russia suffers some kind of economic or political collapse, or Ukraine has some major battlefield victories and is able to credibly threaten Crimea, Russia may just continue.

    It's important to think about incentives here.

    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it's probably not 2025.

    Russia has lost too much, Putin needs to bring something big to show that it was all worth it. Furthermore, Putin does not want to see a free and secure Ukraine prospering like its neighbor, so if he fails to conquer Ukraine, the incentive for him is to make Ukraine a failed state in a permanent state of insecurity, over which Russia can continually exercise power or threaten with a new invasion. This is why it will likely be difficult to get a deal from Putin that includes Ukraine's right to join NATO, unless one of the two scenarios above ends up happening.

    Then it is also important to think about the incentives for Ukraine here. The Ukrainian government may want Crimea and Donbas back, but much more than that, they want a guarantee that Russia will not invade again. If Ukraine signs a bad deal, which leaves the country vulnerable to another invasion or constant threats to Russia, it's going to be really difficult to attract foreign direct investment into Ukraine, and it's going to be really difficult to convince Ukrainians not to emigrate if the country ends in a permanent state of poverty and insecurity.

    Of course, the Ukrainian government may end up signing a bad deal if they are left with no other option, whether because the lines are collapsing and the Russian military is advancing or because they have reached some hard limit on their resources, they may end up not having a choice, but as long as they have choices, they will choose to fight for a good deal. This is because they know, that depending on the agreement they sign, it could mean long-term success or failure of Ukraine.

    If the Ukrainians are “mostly gone” they will have resettled in Europe, as had occurred in previous barbarian invasions when peoples were pushed to the west and south. How many people you figure Slovakia would end up with? At least a million. Your people will be weaker than they are, and less likely to fight. How will you adjust to such a new reality? You can console yourselves by saying you were swamped by fellow Slavs, unlike the Western Euros.

     

    I'm not 100% sure about Slovakia, but Ukrainian immigrants are quite popular in almost every country in Europe, polls always show this. Western European countries are especially excited to receive good immigrants, as a counterbalance to all the terrible immigrants they received, and the truth is that Ukrainians, like most European immigrants, will intermarry with the locals, learn the local language and become indistinguishable from the natives of the countries where they go.

    This situation is a double-edged sword for Ukraine. On the one hand, it's a good thing that Ukrainian children have a place to go, and that in general, Ukrainians are not trapped between an expansionist Russia and a hard border with no one on the other side to accept them. On the other hand, this means that the Ukrainian government will have to compete with the West for its own citizens, and obviously that is not fair, given the West's advantages, and the fact that Russia is attacking Ukraine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    An excellent and thoughtful comment. I agree with most of it but not all.

    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it’s probably not 2025.

    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk. Russia will and should bluster that it has endless numbers of soldiers so the war is hopeless for Ukraine – but if that were really true, Russia would have done mass societal mobilisation last year. It hasn’t.

    Ukraine, too, does not have an infinite number of willing soldiers although their number is higher because they are defending their homelands.

    I’m guessing that both sides have enough in them to continue fighting into 2025, but both sides will get “fatigued” after that. They could keep going, they would have series of increasingly unpopular partial mobilisations to replenish numbers somewhat, but it would be much more difficult.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.

    You are correct that no peace for Ukrainians would be acceptable if there were not significant security. And Russia (barring a collapse or a change of leadership) would not walk away with nothing. A reasonable outcome would be EU and/or NATO for Ukraine (or if not the latter, some binding treaty with the US, UK, France, or other country like South Korea has with the USA)* and rebuilding funds, in exchange for territorial concessions that would reflect the front lines in 2025, and dropping of sanctions that would produce a strong spurt of real economic growth in Russia.

    * Or a very deadly Ukrainian deterrent such as nukes or large arsenal of long-range missiles

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AP

    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk.

    They dangle money and then trick them into rushing the front. One POW talked about how they were told that Russians were on the other side of a forest line and they were going in to back them. Of course there were no Russians and they were dumped in a trench near the enemy.

    This type of underhanded money-based recruiting will not work when trying to occupy a hostile city like Odessa.

    The contractors are taking the money part because they think it is low risk. It's bait and switch.

    It's possible that Putin is building a professional army behind the scenes to take Odessa but I doubt it.

    Oh and in unrelated news they found the body of the Texan fighting for Russian values who was buttraped and killed by Russian soldiers. It was found burned in a Donetsk brickyard which means the rape story is most likely true. They were trying to burn the evidence.

    , @Cesar1191
    @AP


    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk. Russia will and should bluster that it has endless numbers of soldiers so the war is hopeless for Ukraine – but if that were really true, Russia would have done mass societal mobilisation last year. It hasn’t.

     

    As I said, hopefully the war ends soon, but there are reasons to be pessimistic about that prospect.

    The numbers are not infinite, but that does not mean that the war could not last many more years and perhaps even decades if the intensity of the fighting were to decrease.

    Obviously, we don't know how many soldiers each side will be able to put into the field, because there are factors like future politics involved, and even the Russian and Ukrainian governments probably aren't sure, but I think it's useful to look at pools of potential soldiers.

    Let's focus on Russia, because they are the invaders, and they can go home at any time. You say Russia is recruiting from among its poor. How many people in Russia are very poor people living in regions with very little economic opportunities? Let's say it's 40 million, but it could be 30 or 50 or 60, it doesn't make any difference to the point. Of those 40 million, half are women, then there are elderly, children, and disabled people, and also just people who won't go to war no matter what they have to do to escape, so you are left with perhaps 10 million men with the disposition and ability to fight. Now, let's assume, that between dead, wounded and deserters, Russia loses 100 thousand soldiers per year, at such a rate, Russia could sustain this war for more 10 years just using its poor in its depressed regions. Okay, that's too extreme, one could argue, Russia needs workers, and such targeted depopulation could create some backlash, all true, and yet, one can't ignore the fact that Russia is not running out of a pool of potential soldiers any time soon, even if this pool would never include the children of the elite, the upper middle class and the citizens living in Moscow.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.
     
    That depends on the results, doesn't it? If Trump is elected, and the US cuts aid to Ukraine in 2025, why would Russia negotiate then? Maybe Europe will be producing enough military equipment, and that will scare the Russians, but without that, if Western military aid gets worse, Ukraine's ability to get a deal they can live with will only get worse.

    You are correct that no peace for Ukrainians would be acceptable if there were not significant security. And Russia (barring a collapse or a change of leadership) would not walk away with nothing. A reasonable outcome would be EU and/or NATO for Ukraine (or if not the latter, some binding treaty with the US, UK, France, or other country like South Korea has with the USA)* and rebuilding funds, in exchange for territorial concessions that would reflect the front lines in 2025, and dropping of sanctions that would produce a strong spurt of real economic growth in Russia.

     

    The concession of all present and future occupied territory to Russia would be brutal for the credibility of the Ukrainian government, but if Ukraine cannot take territory back, they would have to accept that, and receiving something like NATO in return would be very important. The question then is what would make Russia accept NATO in an agreement, perhaps the removal of sanctions as you say, but the Europeans and even the US if Trump is not president would be very resistant to this, for obvious reasons. All things considered, your deal is very plausible, my skepticism is that as early as 2025 is where everyone would be willing to sign something like that.

    Replies: @AP

  709. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Was she a synchro menstruater?

    Like she and 2/3 of her floor mates in the office all menstruate with peak flow on the same lunar calendar time point?

    Did you see that Joe Rogan episode where he and the guest (I forget who) were whiffing smelling salts?

    Hope there isn't any video of him and a guest doing poppers.

    Replies: @songbird

    Don’t believe she lived in the conditions for that to happen. She was a college professor.
    _________
    This seagull swallowed a squirrel:

    [MORE]

    Would think the claws would wreak havoc on its guts. But I did once see a chicken swallow a live mouse. It literally pounded it down its throat, by wacking it against the ground.

  710. @Bashibuzuk
    Tucker and Dugin discuss how liberalism would lead to Transhumanism and Singularity through LGBTQ+ liberal individualism:

    https://youtu.be/GIULmTprQ6o?feature=shared

    Where is Tolik when we need him?

    (Good thing that when young, I didn’t know that to be interested in Cosmism / Transhumanism, I necessarily had to be Gay. Otherwise, what might have happened to me. Perhaps I would have been forced to join Karlin’s “elite human capital” and get married with some random dude. 🙂)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC

    Referring to Dugin as “Putin’s Brain” never made much sense to me. In the US, this phrasing became popular during the George W. Bush political era. The political strategist Karl Rove was widely considered (and accepted!) to be “Bush’s brain”, at least functionally but probably not literally. Bush was an idiot so this made sense. On the other hand, his true fans desperately wanted to believe he was faking his mental dullness for effect.

    Since Putin is obviously mentally competent and apparently very bright, referring to Dugin as his brain confuses me a bit. I wonder if this is an attempt to retroactively make Bush look smarter than he was, part of a long-term hagiography?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Since Putin is obviously mentally competent and apparently very bright, referring to Dugin as his brain confuses me a bit. I wonder if this is an attempt to retroactively make Bush look smarter than he was, part of a long-term hagiography?

    It's not a good description and they really mean his philosophical consultant.

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @QCIC

    Dugin is entertaining . For those who followed his career during the few decades that he was of any public notoriety, it is self evident that no one in the RusFedian elites takes Dugin and his followers seriously.

    Before becoming a “philosopher”, Dugim was part and parcel of a fringe “commune” of deviants who opposed the Soviet way of life in the 1970ies and early 80ies. That group, headed by Mamleev (a surréaliste poet) and Geydar Djamal (an Azeri-born Islamist third worldist), was mainly staffed with bored Moscovite golden youth who rebelled against their successful parents’ careerism and Soviet era conformism. Dugin’s dad was a counterespionage general of Old Believer background (some Old Believers happily joined the Bolshevik Revolution because it allowed them to settle scores with the hated Romanovs).

    But the youngsters in the Mamleev group didn’t want to follow in their parents footsteps. They wished for the “mysterious and forbidden”, they were into “sexual experimentation”, drugs and all kinds of esotericism. Some of them became famous, Geydar Djamal and Dugin among them. But most became druggies and sexual deviants, like Dugin’s first wife (and mother of his first child, a son) that is barely mentioned in Dugin’s biography and who was among the founding members of the first Perestroika time Soviet LGBTQ organization.

    During that time, the young Dugin, who had the opportunity to access the KGB Third Reich archives through his dad’s connections, became radicalized and joined the first Russian nationalist organization - the Pamyat’ (Memory) Society. Then after Pamyat’ played its part in the Soviets’ downfall, Dugin joined the bisexual writer Limonov and the punk-rock singer Yegor Letov to start the National-Bolshevik party. It was much later (around a decade later) than Dugin became the guru of Traditionalism and returned to his Old Believer roots. So when he talks about extremes of sexual liberation, family structure disruption and individualism, he knows what he is talking about.

    For those who understand Russian, the young Dugin in 1988:

    https://youtu.be/cLLEAAaL6Jo?feature=shared

    He has always been charismatic. And of course he aged well. He had a strong influence on the “Dark Internationale” across FUSSR (the lady responsible for the Azov Battalion “spirituality” was one of Dugin’s pupils) and Europe, even US (he influenced the Alt Right). Just like Djamal had a strong influence on the Islamists and Muslim minorities’ nationalists in the RusFed.

    Yeah, a sad thing to mention, both Djamal and Dugin got their children killed. Djamal got his son murdered by Wagnerites in Africa where he was part of a reporter group who investigated Wagner Group. Darya Dugina was of course killed by SBU, who most probably targeted her dad and not her.

    Karma for all those kids they influenced towards radicalism, some of whom got murdered by the RusFedian state itself?

    God only knows…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  711. @QCIC
    @Derer

    I don't see these excuses very often in a specific form. I encounter the more extreme and sweeping excuses along the line that Russians are fundamentally aggressive and barbaric, have been and always will be. This one is cute when it comes from Ukies who probably had some Russian ancestors!

    Replies: @LT1488, @Mikhail

    Whats even wrong with being ”fundamentally aggressive” LOL

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
  712. @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Are you so desperate that you are losing in Ukraine

    You keep repeating this nonsense, as if it’s true. It’s your new mantra and you include it in almost all of your replies these days
     
    I like AaronB’s interpretation of that as a sort of desperate prayer or invocation. They hope that if they repeat it enough it will become true.

    Imagine that 2 years after invading Iraq, the Americans failed to take Baghdad or any provincial capital, only managed to grab 8% or 9% of the country near the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders, lost a lot of casualties (100,000+ dead) and 1/3 of their ships in the Persian Gulf, while having the Iraqis successfully start and expand a drone-bomb campaign US soil, destroying US factories or oil refineries right at home.

    It would be quite comical for a desperate pro-American to brag that the Iraqis are “losing” because they lost 9% of their territory and some valuable oil wells near the border to the American invaders.

    Does Beckow realize how ridiculous he is? Probably not.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    I like AaronB’s interpretation of that as a sort of desperate prayer or invocation.

    With some luck, maybe AaronB will once again grace us with his presence. With the recent return of Thorfinnsson and Bashibuzuk this blog might start to recapture some of its past color. Karlin is always welcome back too, not to mention his pal Daniel Chieh. As it is, this blog was starting to lose some of its panache. I mean really, how interesting can Mike Averko and myself slugging it out for the 1,000 time, or even you with Beckow really be? 🙂

  713. @AP
    @Cesar1191

    An excellent and thoughtful comment. I agree with most of it but not all.


    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it’s probably not 2025.
     
    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk. Russia will and should bluster that it has endless numbers of soldiers so the war is hopeless for Ukraine - but if that were really true, Russia would have done mass societal mobilisation last year. It hasn’t.

    Ukraine, too, does not have an infinite number of willing soldiers although their number is higher because they are defending their homelands.

    I’m guessing that both sides have enough in them to continue fighting into 2025, but both sides will get “fatigued” after that. They could keep going, they would have series of increasingly unpopular partial mobilisations to replenish numbers somewhat, but it would be much more difficult.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.

    You are correct that no peace for Ukrainians would be acceptable if there were not significant security. And Russia (barring a collapse or a change of leadership) would not walk away with nothing. A reasonable outcome would be EU and/or NATO for Ukraine (or if not the latter, some binding treaty with the US, UK, France, or other country like South Korea has with the USA)* and rebuilding funds, in exchange for territorial concessions that would reflect the front lines in 2025, and dropping of sanctions that would produce a strong spurt of real economic growth in Russia.

    * Or a very deadly Ukrainian deterrent such as nukes or large arsenal of long-range missiles

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Cesar1191

    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk.

    They dangle money and then trick them into rushing the front. One POW talked about how they were told that Russians were on the other side of a forest line and they were going in to back them. Of course there were no Russians and they were dumped in a trench near the enemy.

    This type of underhanded money-based recruiting will not work when trying to occupy a hostile city like Odessa.

    The contractors are taking the money part because they think it is low risk. It’s bait and switch.

    It’s possible that Putin is building a professional army behind the scenes to take Odessa but I doubt it.

    Oh and in unrelated news they found the body of the Texan fighting for Russian values who was buttraped and killed by Russian soldiers. It was found burned in a Donetsk brickyard which means the rape story is most likely true. They were trying to burn the evidence.

    • LOL: Mikhail
  714. @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    Referring to Dugin as "Putin's Brain" never made much sense to me. In the US, this phrasing became popular during the George W. Bush political era. The political strategist Karl Rove was widely considered (and accepted!) to be "Bush's brain", at least functionally but probably not literally. Bush was an idiot so this made sense. On the other hand, his true fans desperately wanted to believe he was faking his mental dullness for effect.

    Since Putin is obviously mentally competent and apparently very bright, referring to Dugin as his brain confuses me a bit. I wonder if this is an attempt to retroactively make Bush look smarter than he was, part of a long-term hagiography?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Bashibuzuk

    Since Putin is obviously mentally competent and apparently very bright, referring to Dugin as his brain confuses me a bit. I wonder if this is an attempt to retroactively make Bush look smarter than he was, part of a long-term hagiography?

    It’s not a good description and they really mean his philosophical consultant.

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
  715. @sudden death
    @songbird

    Personally know several relatively not old people (35-50 y.o. range) whom lost roughly about 70-80% of previous smell sensitivity and are able now to feel nothing but only very strong odours somewhat. And it all happened after mild, almost asymptomatic corona cases, so probably only after long(?) time now it will be possible to tell if this virus also can be capable to trigger/cause Parkinson disease on statistically significant levels.

    Replies: @songbird, @John Johnson

    They have damaged tastebuds that can actually be viewed.

    Permanent changes to taste and smell are actually now rare with the newer variants.

    What is weird is that most people eventually got their taste back but it appears some will never have it return.

    I know one such person. He can’t taste hardly anything but salt. When he has spicy foods he can feel the sensation but the taste isn’t there. He had an early infection before the vaccine was out.

  716. @AP
    @Beckow


    US lost the war in Iraq.
     
    US said it fought the war to prevent Saddam from getting his hands on Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    And he didn't.

    You claim that Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent Ukraine from getting into NATO, and that because Ukraine isn't in NATO Russia "won."

    You are stupid but you are not consistent in your stupidity. If Russia won because Ukraine isn't in NATO (it wasn't anyways), USA won because Saddam didn't get WMDs.

    But more realistically, America occupied the entire country and arrested and/or killed its leadership. It installed the government of its choosing.

    Russia has only taken 8%-9% of Ukraine in over 2 years. Zelensky is still in power. Ukraine now regularly bombs Russia itself.

    You beclown yourself when you claim USA lost, but Russia is "winning."

    Russia failing to take more than 8%-9% of Ukraine…

    20%, don’t lie.
     
    We are talking about the invasion of February 2022 - the so-called SMO. 10% was taken in 2014.

    I know you are desperate of course.

    It is a war-in-progress and Russia is winning.
     
    As I said before:

    Imagine that 2 years after invading Iraq, the Americans failed to take Baghdad or any provincial capital, only managed to grab 8% or 9% of the country near the Saudi and Kuwaiti borders, lost a lot of casualties (100,000+ dead) and 1/3 of their ships in the Persian Gulf, while having the Iraqis successfully start and expand a drone-bomb campaign in US soil, destroying US factories or oil refineries right at home.

    It would be quite comical for a desperate pro-American to brag that the Iraqis are “losing” because they lost 9% of their territory and some valuable oil wells near the border to the American invaders.

    Does Beckow realize how ridiculous he is? Probably not.

    Replies: @Beckow

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war. But you think differently. US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers. They also killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi civilians. Is that not a war crime? US waged an aggressive war half-way around the world, killed civilians, then left in a hurry. That is both a crime and lost war. That’s the way everyone sees it and how people in the future will look at it.

    Killing the unpopular leader is not winning. The lie that “US started the war because of WMD’s” is beneath us. It was such on obvious lie and a cheap excuse, that you using it demeans you even more. Fine, you a fanatic believer, but you don’t get to pretend that “it was all ok, ’cause WMDs!” This is Unz, people here presumably have 3-digit IQs (ok, there is Mr. Hack, but he is harmless).

    Russia is winning in Ukraine. The only question is whether it will be a small 20% win with and neutral Ukraine, or a big win. Bombing Russia is insignificant, I am surprised you use it – like the terrorism in US, UK, France (lots of it in the recent years) – it changes nothing materially and only makes people more angry and willing to fight.

    Even your numbers are wrong, 10+8=18 not the current 21-22%. But the war is about all of the disputed territories, including Crimea. That’s what Zelko and the Western sponsors say – they are the ones fighting, not you. And how about that “paused offensive”? When is it going to restart?

    You are basically a moron so there is no point trying to explain it to you – you are so ideologically committed that you don’t see reality from both sides. Good luck with that, it never works…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war. But you think differently. US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers.

    The US still has troops in Iraq. Are you mixing it up with Afghanistan?

    Good lord please get the basics right before trying to lecture us.

    Saddam's military was completely defeated and the Iraqis gave him an honorary necktie.

    If you want to argue that the war was a waste of lives or money then go ahead.

    But it was a clear US victory and their military goals were met. Saddam was removed and Iraq is now a democracy. ISIS was a pain the ass for a period but they too were defeated. The majority of Iraqis would like a democracy and not a Muslim theocracy or a dictator like Saddam.

    But you can't call the war a loss just because you don't like the US or because you don't think the war was justified. I don't think Hitler's war on Poland was justified but it was clearly a military victory.

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    But the war is about all of the disputed territories, including Crimea. That’s what Zelko and the Western sponsors say – they are the ones fighting, not you.

    Putin said the war is about stopping the Eastward expansion of NATO and he started the invasion on that basis.

    By his own clearly defined goal I don't see how he can win without talking Finland into leaving. That would have to require some type of deal where Finland leaves and joins some new Western security group. I highly doubt Putin is creative enough to come up with such a plan and will just rely on his state media to not talk about his invasion speech.

    It is currently looking like a stalemate with death as the grand winner.

    Ukraine will most likely not get all of their territory back and Putin will not have stopped the Eastward expansion of NATO.

    Regular Russians and Ukrainians lose while death and the US defense industry wins. A Russian girl will cry every Christmas for her lost father while some US investor buys a new boat with his defense industry capital gains. That is what this war looks like.

    The mafioso midget isn't clever enough to push back NATO at this point. He is in over his head.

    Maybe the US defense industries will send him a gift basket.

    Wars raise profit outlook for US defense industry
    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/wars-raise-profit-outlook-us-defense-industry-2024-2023-12-18/

    , @A123
    @Beckow


    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war.
     
    You are not using the English language correctly. To everyone:

    • The U.S. won the military war. Iraqi forces were convincingly defeated and the government was disbanded. These are the measures of a military war victory. The only way that Iraq could have won the war is if they defeated U.S. forces. I think you will agree that did not happen.

    • GW Bush's post-war activities failed. Partition was clearly the best option. A strong, authoritarian central government might have worked. However, Bush's team went for a weak, Lebanon style, federation that was unstable. No one accepted it. And that post-war policy has been a fiasco for many years.
    ____

    I would strongly suggest giving up on analogies between U.S.-Iraq and Russia-Ukraine. They are very different in different in technology, geography, timeline, strategy, and tactics:

    -- At best, the comparison is irrelevant and thus unhelpful.
    -- At worst, you are undermining your own position.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war.
     
    To whom? Confused and dishonest Beckow?

    US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers. They also killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi civilians. Is that not a war crime?
     
    US captured the entire country including its capital, eliminated the enemy's army, and captured or killed the enemy's leadership. It imposed its preferred government upon the country, one that ran elections.

    That's what victory is.

    The fact that the war was criminal, or expensive, or not worth it is an entirely different matter. You are trying to change the subject because you are wrong and desperate.

    The lie that “US started the war because of WMD’s” is beneath us. It was such on obvious lie and a cheap excuse
     
    You are so inadequate that you didn't even understand that I was deliberately using the WMD excuse for American dummies, to highlight the stupidity of the NATO excuse for Russian dummies - like you.

    I thought you were at least a midwit, but maybe I was wrong.

    What do you think I mean by the bolded part in what I wrote to you?

    "You are stupid but you are not consistent in your stupidity. If Russia won because Ukraine isn’t in NATO (it wasn’t anyways), USA won because Saddam didn’t get WMDs."

    I'll spell it out clearly for you:

    Saddam had no WMDs although he sometimes threatened to have them. USA invaded, and Iraq still doesn't have them. Victory!

    Ukraine was not in NATO, although it declared it would be. It still does, and so does NATO. But it isn't. Victory!

    We know you are stupid, but you should at least be consistent in your stupidity.

    Bombing Russia is insignificant, I am surprised you use it – like the terrorism in US, UK, France (lots of it in the recent years) – it changes nothing materially
     
    Ukraine has already eliminated 6% or so of Russia's refining capacity, which is much more than terrorists do.

    only makes people more angry and willing to fight.
     
    Nonsense. It make gas more expensive for them, but doesn't kill them.

    Even your numbers are wrong, 10+8=18 not the current 21-22%.
     
    Says the guy who can't keep his numbers straight.

    As of March 5, after Russians took Avdiivka, it was 17.5%:

    https://www.russiamatters.org/news/russia-ukraine-war-report-card/russia-ukraine-war-report-card-march-5-2024

    "Including territory occupied before 2022, Russia now controls about 41,000 square miles (17.5%) of Ukraine."

    Russia has expanded beyond Avdiivka by taking several more villages, so it is probably in the 18% to 19% range.

    This is only a slight improvement for Russia from 16% in January 2023:

    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/01/06/war-in-ukraine-russia-now-controls-only-16-of-ukrainian-territory_6010578_8.html

    And much less than the 27% Russia controlled in early 2022.
  717. @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    the initial offer by Soviets
     
    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else, thus leaving Finland entirely unprotected later. Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of "world peace" and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all. Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.

    Just like RF most likely demanded to give up the most fortified UA lands in Donbas in 2022 thus leaving the country potentially defensively naked later against still mostly undamaged RF army, but UA also correctly decided it was better to inflict notable bloodletting for the aggressor forces - want take the land, then go massively hemorrhaging for it, instead of getting everything for free;)

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    LMAO – for those unsure of the history – this f**khead wakjob is (falsely) praising Finland 80 years before….with a complete misreading of events……..and as a Lithuanian retard is amazingly without any irony doing this , even though his shithole of a country was the most ANTI-Finland in philosophy to dealing with requests from other countries.

    Finns correctly did everything

    That is the same Soviets during this time who gave Lithuanian Nazis, Vilnius (taken from Poland), Klaipeda ( taken from Germany when could EASILY have transferred it to Russia as part of Kaliningrad), and Druskininkai from Belarus. That’s in addition to Soviets changing their opinion over 20 years of the land being a Lithuanian-Belarus SSR – to one solely a Lithuanian SSR. A nothing ethnicity, very agrarian society at the time…..Soviets could have easily kept it as Lithuanian-Belarus SSR and have done at the time the same mixed ethnicity states as in the Caucasus and central Asia…..and nobody ( except Belarussians) would have given a f**k – especially Lithuanian earthworms.

    Polish Nazi’s , under threat of war in 1938, demanded Lithuanian Nazis recognised Vilnius as part of Poland , and LMAO – this is Vilnius that had by then been in full control and lived in by Poles for 2 decades.
    German Nazi’s, under threat of war in 38/39, demanded Lithuanian Nazis gave them Klaipeda. Lithuanian Nazi rejects very happily did. So Lithuania were a (homo) cuckhold of the Poles, Nazis and ( to their benefit) Russia.

    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else

    It’s only because of the POLITICAL decision that those defences become “strategic” you dumbf**k idiot. As a decision of the circumstances of the time, as a decision looking on retrospect on how events subsequently happened, as a decision on a moral view…….that political decision that lead to those “strategic’ defences were dumb, FAILURES and evil you sick fu*k. And of course proved the Soviets 100% correct when the Finnish Nazis together with the German Nazi’s did invade USSR together, just as anticipated would occur.

    Soviets in 20 years from 1920-1940 do absolutely NOTHING to change border with Finland you retarded dimwit.

    Soviets from 1946 -now do absolutely NOTHING to change border with Finland you retarded dimwit

    Soviets from 1920-1940 do absolutely NOTHING to change border with about a million different other countries you retarded dimwit ( maybe something with Japan, but nothing European)

    Tsarist Russia does nothing but great things for Finland for 200 years you retarded dimwit.

    That is in addition to everybody accepting European communism wasn’t going to happen

    These defensive fortifications were very simple engineering if you look at them- natural barrier itself far more important. And of course Soviets DID smash through them you idiot, would have taken masses of land, before the Finns begged for settlement.

    In that context WTF does an enemy, ideologically opposite state have to do with this you retard?:

    Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of “world peace” and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all

    British and other forced Czechoslovakia to accept that aggreement. Brits and others were very much involved with Finland Nazis refusing Soviet generous offer. How can Soviet behaviour be equated with Nazis immediate behavior to developed as soon as Hitler became Chancellor?

    Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.

    ermmm…… War against Finnish faggots was literally a fraction of the casualties as that suffered in Leningrad BY ITSELF you retard . Again, with the Soviets chasing the Nazis back through Europe to the west for 2 years, liberating 100s of towns and cities you worthless POS, much more casualties happened for these heroes of course – far in excess of what happened in Finland. Further justification of Winter War

    Summary – “order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight” has absolutely ZERO truth or logic to it. Finland Nazis were saved TWICE by Soviet mercy – both times just about to annihilate them , and the Finns conceded.

    And LOL – CLEARLY the Finns were the aggressor from 1941 afterwards you thick POS. Finland Nazis lost alot more dead Finns AFTER Winter war , than before it.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    ANTI-Finland in philosophy
     
    Therefore me not promoting that bad example as worthy of following, but instead praising Finland, which did the right thing;) What should have been done, but wasn't done succesfully during interwar era - forming local Baltic common defensive entente+building defensive fortifications all over the places there, so when the push came to shove there was nothing to show in practic regretably, but only to wave in the air useless previous neutrality proclamations.

    However Soviets were pushed out by Lithuanian army back in 1920 and had to sign official peace treaty where Vilnius and overall way more lands were recognized as belonging to Lithuania than it was returned in 1939, so they even broke their own signed treaty subsequently. As usual;)


    British and other forced Czechoslovakia to accept that aggreement. Brits and others were very much involved with Finland Nazis refusing Soviet generous offer. How can Soviet behaviour be equated with Nazis immediate behavior to developed as soon as Hitler became Chancellor?
     
    Hitler came in power in 1932, but decided to break freshly signed 1938 autumn Munich agreement in 1939 spring, so there was nothing immediate. On the contrary, what Hitler did immediately - he backed off from traditional German nationalistic anti-Poland rhetorics in 1934, cause he personally respected Pilsudski for his anti-commie stance and being overly personalistic in behaviour, gradually soured on Poland since Pilsudski died in 1935.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Gerard1234

    , @Beckow
    @Gerard1234

    Finland lost the Winter War and 10% of its territory, industry, people, second largest city Vyborg. Before the war Finnish artillery was in St. Petersburg suburbs and could bomb the city at will - Finland was a German Nazi ally. Russia demanded that Finland gives up the territory next to St. Peter an exchange for land twice the size in Karelia. Finland refused, fought the war and lost.

    Finland then joined the Nazi invasion of Russia in 1941 as Germany's ally: they bombed St. Peter and blockaded it. Without the buffer Russia gained in the Winter War, St.Petersburg would be indefensible and a million more Russians would be killed by Germans and Finns.

    After WW2, Finland pleaded for mercy and signed an eternal friendship treaty with Russia, pledging neutrality and good relations. Then they betrayed, we will see how that goes. Maybe Finland should pay reparations for what they did in WW2. The feel-good Finnish nonsense about the Winter War is bollocks, an emotional drivel by the losing side that fought a war they didn't have to and lost badly.

  718. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    OK, but could you tell us what's the nature of brilliancy in biology?
    Admittedly, you don't make new theories there like in physics, and then trying them either to advance or disprove.

    From what I heard from my IT friend writing software for biologists, you just gather large amounts of data, let's say genetic, and then try to find meaningful sequences aka patterns in DNA with the help of computers.

    Few years ago I met someone who did her PhD on zebrafish, which is quite a small being. How can we talk about human genome when we didn't solve the zebrafish, though?
    I am confused.

    Replies: @Negronicus, @AnonfromTN

    could you tell us what’s the nature of brilliancy in biology?

    Brilliance in biology is the same as in any real science: the ability to think right, come up with explanations that can be tested experimentally and survive experimental testing. This might be harder in biology than in other sciences. Living organisms (with the exception of viruses; viruses are intracellular parasites that highjack cell machinery and use it for their purposes) consist of cells. Cells contain DNA (genetic material), RNA, proteins, lipids, various small molecule metabolites, ions, and water. Proteins are workhorses of life. Every mammalian (including human) cell expresses ~10,000 different proteins, ranging in abundance from a few copies to 20 million per cell. Proteins are subject to post-translational modifications, which change their functional capabilities. Proteins are shapeshifting molecules existing in a complex equilibrium of many conformations. So, for each protein expressed there are 3-20 distinct functional entities. The cell is an autonomous self-governing and self-reproducing entity, which is ensured by a complex network of signaling with numerous feedback loops, etc. Complexity-wise a single cell beats any human megalopolis hands down.

    From what I heard from my IT friend writing software for biologists, you just gather large amounts of data, let’s say genetic, and then try to find meaningful sequences aka patterns in DNA with the help of computers.

    This probably describes GWAS (genome-wide association study). GWAS is usually done to look for genes that contribute to a particular disease. Another group of methods that generate large datasets and require software for analysis are various “omics” (proteomics, lipidomics, metabolomics, etc.). These “large data” methods are now fashionable, but IMO they are scientific dead ends. Say, you identify 100 potential suspects in GWAS or omics. What do you do next? To put it in simple terms, what does a hunter do when he sees 100 hares? Either nothing, or chases a single one. Same with these methods: you publish, deposit the results into one of the databases, forget it, and move on to the next study.

    Few years ago I met someone who did her PhD on zebrafish, which is quite a small being. How can we talk about human genome when we didn’t solve the zebrafish, though?

    We have zebrafish genome, as well as human genome and genomes of 100+ species. That tells you what proteins does a particular animal express, but it cannot possibly tell you how any one of these proteins works. Zebrafish are our distant relatives (vertebrates, but not mammals), their advantage is that they are transparent during development, their disadvantage is that, like most bony fish that have undergone a third round of whole genome duplication (we and most other vertebrates have undergone two) have too many genes.

    • Thanks: Mikel
  719. @Beckow
    @AP

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war. But you think differently. US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers. They also killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi civilians. Is that not a war crime? US waged an aggressive war half-way around the world, killed civilians, then left in a hurry. That is both a crime and lost war. That's the way everyone sees it and how people in the future will look at it.

    Killing the unpopular leader is not winning. The lie that "US started the war because of WMD's" is beneath us. It was such on obvious lie and a cheap excuse, that you using it demeans you even more. Fine, you a fanatic believer, but you don't get to pretend that "it was all ok, 'cause WMDs!" This is Unz, people here presumably have 3-digit IQs (ok, there is Mr. Hack, but he is harmless).

    Russia is winning in Ukraine. The only question is whether it will be a small 20% win with and neutral Ukraine, or a big win. Bombing Russia is insignificant, I am surprised you use it - like the terrorism in US, UK, France (lots of it in the recent years) - it changes nothing materially and only makes people more angry and willing to fight.

    Even your numbers are wrong, 10+8=18 not the current 21-22%. But the war is about all of the disputed territories, including Crimea. That's what Zelko and the Western sponsors say - they are the ones fighting, not you. And how about that "paused offensive"? When is it going to restart?

    You are basically a moron so there is no point trying to explain it to you - you are so ideologically committed that you don't see reality from both sides. Good luck with that, it never works...

    Replies: @John Johnson, @John Johnson, @A123, @AP

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war. But you think differently. US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers.

    The US still has troops in Iraq. Are you mixing it up with Afghanistan?

    Good lord please get the basics right before trying to lecture us.

    Saddam’s military was completely defeated and the Iraqis gave him an honorary necktie.

    If you want to argue that the war was a waste of lives or money then go ahead.

    But it was a clear US victory and their military goals were met. Saddam was removed and Iraq is now a democracy. ISIS was a pain the ass for a period but they too were defeated. The majority of Iraqis would like a democracy and not a Muslim theocracy or a dictator like Saddam.

    But you can’t call the war a loss just because you don’t like the US or because you don’t think the war was justified. I don’t think Hitler’s war on Poland was justified but it was clearly a military victory.

  720. @Gerard1234
    @sudden death

    LMAO - for those unsure of the history - this f**khead wakjob is (falsely) praising Finland 80 years before....with a complete misreading of events........and as a Lithuanian retard is amazingly without any irony doing this , even though his shithole of a country was the most ANTI-Finland in philosophy to dealing with requests from other countries.


    Finns correctly did everything
     
    That is the same Soviets during this time who gave Lithuanian Nazis, Vilnius (taken from Poland), Klaipeda ( taken from Germany when could EASILY have transferred it to Russia as part of Kaliningrad), and Druskininkai from Belarus. That's in addition to Soviets changing their opinion over 20 years of the land being a Lithuanian-Belarus SSR - to one solely a Lithuanian SSR. A nothing ethnicity, very agrarian society at the time.....Soviets could have easily kept it as Lithuanian-Belarus SSR and have done at the time the same mixed ethnicity states as in the Caucasus and central Asia.....and nobody ( except Belarussians) would have given a f**k - especially Lithuanian earthworms.

    Polish Nazi's , under threat of war in 1938, demanded Lithuanian Nazis recognised Vilnius as part of Poland , and LMAO - this is Vilnius that had by then been in full control and lived in by Poles for 2 decades.
    German Nazi's, under threat of war in 38/39, demanded Lithuanian Nazis gave them Klaipeda. Lithuanian Nazi rejects very happily did. So Lithuania were a (homo) cuckhold of the Poles, Nazis and ( to their benefit) Russia.

    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else

     

    It's only because of the POLITICAL decision that those defences become "strategic" you dumbf**k idiot. As a decision of the circumstances of the time, as a decision looking on retrospect on how events subsequently happened, as a decision on a moral view.......that political decision that lead to those "strategic' defences were dumb, FAILURES and evil you sick fu*k. And of course proved the Soviets 100% correct when the Finnish Nazis together with the German Nazi's did invade USSR together, just as anticipated would occur.

    Soviets in 20 years from 1920-1940 do absolutely NOTHING to change border with Finland you retarded dimwit.

    Soviets from 1946 -now do absolutely NOTHING to change border with Finland you retarded dimwit

    Soviets from 1920-1940 do absolutely NOTHING to change border with about a million different other countries you retarded dimwit ( maybe something with Japan, but nothing European)

    Tsarist Russia does nothing but great things for Finland for 200 years you retarded dimwit.

    That is in addition to everybody accepting European communism wasn't going to happen

    These defensive fortifications were very simple engineering if you look at them- natural barrier itself far more important. And of course Soviets DID smash through them you idiot, would have taken masses of land, before the Finns begged for settlement.

    In that context WTF does an enemy, ideologically opposite state have to do with this you retard?:

    Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of “world peace” and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all
     
    British and other forced Czechoslovakia to accept that aggreement. Brits and others were very much involved with Finland Nazis refusing Soviet generous offer. How can Soviet behaviour be equated with Nazis immediate behavior to developed as soon as Hitler became Chancellor?

    Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.
     
    ermmm...... War against Finnish faggots was literally a fraction of the casualties as that suffered in Leningrad BY ITSELF you retard . Again, with the Soviets chasing the Nazis back through Europe to the west for 2 years, liberating 100s of towns and cities you worthless POS, much more casualties happened for these heroes of course - far in excess of what happened in Finland. Further justification of Winter War

    Summary - "order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight" has absolutely ZERO truth or logic to it. Finland Nazis were saved TWICE by Soviet mercy - both times just about to annihilate them , and the Finns conceded.

    And LOL - CLEARLY the Finns were the aggressor from 1941 afterwards you thick POS. Finland Nazis lost alot more dead Finns AFTER Winter war , than before it.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Beckow

    ANTI-Finland in philosophy

    Therefore me not promoting that bad example as worthy of following, but instead praising Finland, which did the right thing;) What should have been done, but wasn’t done succesfully during interwar era – forming local Baltic common defensive entente+building defensive fortifications all over the places there, so when the push came to shove there was nothing to show in practic regretably, but only to wave in the air useless previous neutrality proclamations.

    However Soviets were pushed out by Lithuanian army back in 1920 and had to sign official peace treaty where Vilnius and overall way more lands were recognized as belonging to Lithuania than it was returned in 1939, so they even broke their own signed treaty subsequently. As usual;)

    British and other forced Czechoslovakia to accept that aggreement. Brits and others were very much involved with Finland Nazis refusing Soviet generous offer. How can Soviet behaviour be equated with Nazis immediate behavior to developed as soon as Hitler became Chancellor?

    Hitler came in power in 1932, but decided to break freshly signed 1938 autumn Munich agreement in 1939 spring, so there was nothing immediate. On the contrary, what Hitler did immediately – he backed off from traditional German nationalistic anti-Poland rhetorics in 1934, cause he personally respected Pilsudski for his anti-commie stance and being overly personalistic in behaviour, gradually soured on Poland since Pilsudski died in 1935.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @sudden death

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Lithuania_territory_1939-1940.png

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Peace_Treaty#

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Gerard1234
    @sudden death


    forming local Baltic common defensive entente
     
    The Baltics..... are any of them are going to build a navy of any military strength in those 20 years? Zero chance

    What are the Baltic states united by in those years ( or even now?) to make alliance possible? New, very insecure, lowlife states controlled by Russia for the previous 200 years. All crypto-German-cocksuckers. Impractical and unknown in those years if some pan-Baltic alliance would hold together. All 3 states getting formed after 1917 were completely separate military campaigns - not interlocked as many of the Latin American states wars for Independence . Zero chance that one of these Baltic pricks would not break any alliance.

    building defensive fortifications all over the places there
     
    Germany, Poland and the Soviets - build defensive fortifications to repel all 3 of them? How much of the country is closed-off from doing that? How exactly would that give Lithuania back Vilnius or receive gift from the Soviets of Druskininkai? It wouldn't.
    Though to be fair - Lithuania as the "self-reliant" North Korea of Europe, sounds suitable title, LOL.

    Russian railway gauge in Litva is an important thing now.......in the 1920s,30s,40s its an absolutely gigantic issue in comparison. Simply impossible to not be a significant trade parter and export/import route of the Soviet Union with this railway gauge and network. It's at least 20-30 years and significant money to change that to standard gauge network.

    As the Baltics were all corrupt, fascist dictatorships - to invest in deterring external enemies when internal instability still significant, and society in each 3 of them nowhere near as consolidated to the leaders as in Nazi Germany ( where fascist dictatorship also, but all internal enemies already killed) - would again be problem.

    However Soviets were pushed out by Lithuanian army back in 1920 and had to sign official peace treaty where Vilnius and overall way more lands were recognized as belonging to Lithuania than it was returned in 1939, so they even broke their own signed treaty subsequently. As usual;)
     
    As mentioned in response to you by some excellent commentators - those were territories the Poles took, and Lithuania recognised ( by threat from Nazi Poland) as Polish territory in 1938. How any pitiful cretin could then try and blame instead of thank the Soviets for giving much land to the Lithuanians - is incredible. Lunatic to be precise.
  721. @Beckow
    @AP

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war. But you think differently. US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers. They also killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi civilians. Is that not a war crime? US waged an aggressive war half-way around the world, killed civilians, then left in a hurry. That is both a crime and lost war. That's the way everyone sees it and how people in the future will look at it.

    Killing the unpopular leader is not winning. The lie that "US started the war because of WMD's" is beneath us. It was such on obvious lie and a cheap excuse, that you using it demeans you even more. Fine, you a fanatic believer, but you don't get to pretend that "it was all ok, 'cause WMDs!" This is Unz, people here presumably have 3-digit IQs (ok, there is Mr. Hack, but he is harmless).

    Russia is winning in Ukraine. The only question is whether it will be a small 20% win with and neutral Ukraine, or a big win. Bombing Russia is insignificant, I am surprised you use it - like the terrorism in US, UK, France (lots of it in the recent years) - it changes nothing materially and only makes people more angry and willing to fight.

    Even your numbers are wrong, 10+8=18 not the current 21-22%. But the war is about all of the disputed territories, including Crimea. That's what Zelko and the Western sponsors say - they are the ones fighting, not you. And how about that "paused offensive"? When is it going to restart?

    You are basically a moron so there is no point trying to explain it to you - you are so ideologically committed that you don't see reality from both sides. Good luck with that, it never works...

    Replies: @John Johnson, @John Johnson, @A123, @AP

    But the war is about all of the disputed territories, including Crimea. That’s what Zelko and the Western sponsors say – they are the ones fighting, not you.

    Putin said the war is about stopping the Eastward expansion of NATO and he started the invasion on that basis.

    By his own clearly defined goal I don’t see how he can win without talking Finland into leaving. That would have to require some type of deal where Finland leaves and joins some new Western security group. I highly doubt Putin is creative enough to come up with such a plan and will just rely on his state media to not talk about his invasion speech.

    It is currently looking like a stalemate with death as the grand winner.

    Ukraine will most likely not get all of their territory back and Putin will not have stopped the Eastward expansion of NATO.

    Regular Russians and Ukrainians lose while death and the US defense industry wins. A Russian girl will cry every Christmas for her lost father while some US investor buys a new boat with his defense industry capital gains. That is what this war looks like.

    The mafioso midget isn’t clever enough to push back NATO at this point. He is in over his head.

    Maybe the US defense industries will send him a gift basket.

    Wars raise profit outlook for US defense industry
    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/wars-raise-profit-outlook-us-defense-industry-2024-2023-12-18/

  722. A123 says: • Website
    @Beckow
    @AP

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war. But you think differently. US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers. They also killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi civilians. Is that not a war crime? US waged an aggressive war half-way around the world, killed civilians, then left in a hurry. That is both a crime and lost war. That's the way everyone sees it and how people in the future will look at it.

    Killing the unpopular leader is not winning. The lie that "US started the war because of WMD's" is beneath us. It was such on obvious lie and a cheap excuse, that you using it demeans you even more. Fine, you a fanatic believer, but you don't get to pretend that "it was all ok, 'cause WMDs!" This is Unz, people here presumably have 3-digit IQs (ok, there is Mr. Hack, but he is harmless).

    Russia is winning in Ukraine. The only question is whether it will be a small 20% win with and neutral Ukraine, or a big win. Bombing Russia is insignificant, I am surprised you use it - like the terrorism in US, UK, France (lots of it in the recent years) - it changes nothing materially and only makes people more angry and willing to fight.

    Even your numbers are wrong, 10+8=18 not the current 21-22%. But the war is about all of the disputed territories, including Crimea. That's what Zelko and the Western sponsors say - they are the ones fighting, not you. And how about that "paused offensive"? When is it going to restart?

    You are basically a moron so there is no point trying to explain it to you - you are so ideologically committed that you don't see reality from both sides. Good luck with that, it never works...

    Replies: @John Johnson, @John Johnson, @A123, @AP

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war.

    You are not using the English language correctly. To everyone:

    • The U.S. won the military war. Iraqi forces were convincingly defeated and the government was disbanded. These are the measures of a military war victory. The only way that Iraq could have won the war is if they defeated U.S. forces. I think you will agree that did not happen.

    • GW Bush’s post-war activities failed. Partition was clearly the best option. A strong, authoritarian central government might have worked. However, Bush’s team went for a weak, Lebanon style, federation that was unstable. No one accepted it. And that post-war policy has been a fiasco for many years.
    ____

    I would strongly suggest giving up on analogies between U.S.-Iraq and Russia-Ukraine. They are very different in different in technology, geography, timeline, strategy, and tactics:

    — At best, the comparison is irrelevant and thus unhelpful.
    — At worst, you are undermining your own position.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123

    You can play semantic games but there was only one Iraq War - US lost it. The pre-, post-, admin issues, etc... are of no importance. There was one war and US lost. Military advances mean very little if you lose the war at the end. The early 'military' victories are kind of pointless if they lead to a withdrawal.

    In 1982 Argentina occupied the Maldives and then lost the war. Napoleon marched to Moscow and lost the war. US controlled South Vietnam for years and then lost the war. Soviets won militarily in Afghanistan and occupied Kabul and then lost the war. So did US 30 years later.

    There is no such thing as winning "militarily" and then losing. It is simply a loss. Iraqis outplayed you.

    Replies: @AP

    , @John Johnson
    @A123

    GW Bush’s post-war activities failed. Partition was clearly the best option. A strong, authoritarian central government might have worked. However, Bush’s team went for a weak, Lebanon style, federation that was unstable. No one accepted it. And that post-war policy has been a fiasco for many years.

    It had some problems for years and especially with ISIS but they currently have a functioning democracy. Iraq didn't dissolve into disparate factions as many predicted. That's impressive given that they have both Sunni and Shia Muslims. They have proven that Saddam wasn't needed to for them to live next to each other.

    In fact I would add that Biden and congress could very do their part in destabilizing the gains made in Iraq by constantly taking the side of Israel. It could very well lead to a new Muslim faction that demands a split from the US and closer ties to Iran. This would be a great time for the US to be just a tad more neutral in the ME but that is of course highly unlikely.

  723. @Gerard1234
    @sudden death

    LMAO - for those unsure of the history - this f**khead wakjob is (falsely) praising Finland 80 years before....with a complete misreading of events........and as a Lithuanian retard is amazingly without any irony doing this , even though his shithole of a country was the most ANTI-Finland in philosophy to dealing with requests from other countries.


    Finns correctly did everything
     
    That is the same Soviets during this time who gave Lithuanian Nazis, Vilnius (taken from Poland), Klaipeda ( taken from Germany when could EASILY have transferred it to Russia as part of Kaliningrad), and Druskininkai from Belarus. That's in addition to Soviets changing their opinion over 20 years of the land being a Lithuanian-Belarus SSR - to one solely a Lithuanian SSR. A nothing ethnicity, very agrarian society at the time.....Soviets could have easily kept it as Lithuanian-Belarus SSR and have done at the time the same mixed ethnicity states as in the Caucasus and central Asia.....and nobody ( except Belarussians) would have given a f**k - especially Lithuanian earthworms.

    Polish Nazi's , under threat of war in 1938, demanded Lithuanian Nazis recognised Vilnius as part of Poland , and LMAO - this is Vilnius that had by then been in full control and lived in by Poles for 2 decades.
    German Nazi's, under threat of war in 38/39, demanded Lithuanian Nazis gave them Klaipeda. Lithuanian Nazi rejects very happily did. So Lithuania were a (homo) cuckhold of the Poles, Nazis and ( to their benefit) Russia.

    Was about demand to give up strategically defensively fortified land in exchange of getting unreinforced land somewhere else

     

    It's only because of the POLITICAL decision that those defences become "strategic" you dumbf**k idiot. As a decision of the circumstances of the time, as a decision looking on retrospect on how events subsequently happened, as a decision on a moral view.......that political decision that lead to those "strategic' defences were dumb, FAILURES and evil you sick fu*k. And of course proved the Soviets 100% correct when the Finnish Nazis together with the German Nazi's did invade USSR together, just as anticipated would occur.

    Soviets in 20 years from 1920-1940 do absolutely NOTHING to change border with Finland you retarded dimwit.

    Soviets from 1946 -now do absolutely NOTHING to change border with Finland you retarded dimwit

    Soviets from 1920-1940 do absolutely NOTHING to change border with about a million different other countries you retarded dimwit ( maybe something with Japan, but nothing European)

    Tsarist Russia does nothing but great things for Finland for 200 years you retarded dimwit.

    That is in addition to everybody accepting European communism wasn't going to happen

    These defensive fortifications were very simple engineering if you look at them- natural barrier itself far more important. And of course Soviets DID smash through them you idiot, would have taken masses of land, before the Finns begged for settlement.

    In that context WTF does an enemy, ideologically opposite state have to do with this you retard?:

    Everybody then recently watched how Czechoslovakia was forced to give up fortified Sudetenland at the border for the sake of “world peace” and were left entirely defenseless half year later when Hitler having fresh army without any previous bloodletting decided to grab it all
     
    British and other forced Czechoslovakia to accept that aggreement. Brits and others were very much involved with Finland Nazis refusing Soviet generous offer. How can Soviet behaviour be equated with Nazis immediate behavior to developed as soon as Hitler became Chancellor?

    Finns correctly did everything in order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight with some timeout in between.
     
    ermmm...... War against Finnish faggots was literally a fraction of the casualties as that suffered in Leningrad BY ITSELF you retard . Again, with the Soviets chasing the Nazis back through Europe to the west for 2 years, liberating 100s of towns and cities you worthless POS, much more casualties happened for these heroes of course - far in excess of what happened in Finland. Further justification of Winter War

    Summary - "order to inflict damage for the aggressor and saved the country after long exhausting nearly 4 year fight" has absolutely ZERO truth or logic to it. Finland Nazis were saved TWICE by Soviet mercy - both times just about to annihilate them , and the Finns conceded.

    And LOL - CLEARLY the Finns were the aggressor from 1941 afterwards you thick POS. Finland Nazis lost alot more dead Finns AFTER Winter war , than before it.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Beckow

    Finland lost the Winter War and 10% of its territory, industry, people, second largest city Vyborg. Before the war Finnish artillery was in St. Petersburg suburbs and could bomb the city at will – Finland was a German Nazi ally. Russia demanded that Finland gives up the territory next to St. Peter an exchange for land twice the size in Karelia. Finland refused, fought the war and lost.

    Finland then joined the Nazi invasion of Russia in 1941 as Germany’s ally: they bombed St. Peter and blockaded it. Without the buffer Russia gained in the Winter War, St.Petersburg would be indefensible and a million more Russians would be killed by Germans and Finns.

    After WW2, Finland pleaded for mercy and signed an eternal friendship treaty with Russia, pledging neutrality and good relations. Then they betrayed, we will see how that goes. Maybe Finland should pay reparations for what they did in WW2. The feel-good Finnish nonsense about the Winter War is bollocks, an emotional drivel by the losing side that fought a war they didn’t have to and lost badly.

  724. Adding Finland to NATO actually adds not only more border but puts more NATO land closer to the population center of St. Petersburg.

    Putin described “missiles on the border” as the threat so he clearly cannot win by his own goal unless he talks Finland into leaving.

  725. @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    ANTI-Finland in philosophy
     
    Therefore me not promoting that bad example as worthy of following, but instead praising Finland, which did the right thing;) What should have been done, but wasn't done succesfully during interwar era - forming local Baltic common defensive entente+building defensive fortifications all over the places there, so when the push came to shove there was nothing to show in practic regretably, but only to wave in the air useless previous neutrality proclamations.

    However Soviets were pushed out by Lithuanian army back in 1920 and had to sign official peace treaty where Vilnius and overall way more lands were recognized as belonging to Lithuania than it was returned in 1939, so they even broke their own signed treaty subsequently. As usual;)


    British and other forced Czechoslovakia to accept that aggreement. Brits and others were very much involved with Finland Nazis refusing Soviet generous offer. How can Soviet behaviour be equated with Nazis immediate behavior to developed as soon as Hitler became Chancellor?
     
    Hitler came in power in 1932, but decided to break freshly signed 1938 autumn Munich agreement in 1939 spring, so there was nothing immediate. On the contrary, what Hitler did immediately - he backed off from traditional German nationalistic anti-Poland rhetorics in 1934, cause he personally respected Pilsudski for his anti-commie stance and being overly personalistic in behaviour, gradually soured on Poland since Pilsudski died in 1935.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Gerard1234

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @sudden death

    The map is nice (thanks) but an example of the wiki subtle propaganda. The Lithuanian territories occupied by Poland between 1920-39 were given to Lithuania in 1939 by Russia including Vilnius - but the map uses the weasel term 'transferred by Soviets' - Poland's occupation is not mentioned. The German one is labeled correctly.

    It is inconsistent and that is not accidental. Why do Westies insist on lying and obfuscation even in small things?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  726. @A123
    @Beckow


    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war.
     
    You are not using the English language correctly. To everyone:

    • The U.S. won the military war. Iraqi forces were convincingly defeated and the government was disbanded. These are the measures of a military war victory. The only way that Iraq could have won the war is if they defeated U.S. forces. I think you will agree that did not happen.

    • GW Bush's post-war activities failed. Partition was clearly the best option. A strong, authoritarian central government might have worked. However, Bush's team went for a weak, Lebanon style, federation that was unstable. No one accepted it. And that post-war policy has been a fiasco for many years.
    ____

    I would strongly suggest giving up on analogies between U.S.-Iraq and Russia-Ukraine. They are very different in different in technology, geography, timeline, strategy, and tactics:

    -- At best, the comparison is irrelevant and thus unhelpful.
    -- At worst, you are undermining your own position.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    You can play semantic games but there was only one Iraq War – US lost it. The pre-, post-, admin issues, etc… are of no importance. There was one war and US lost. Military advances mean very little if you lose the war at the end. The early ‘military’ victories are kind of pointless if they lead to a withdrawal.

    In 1982 Argentina occupied the Maldives and then lost the war. Napoleon marched to Moscow and lost the war. US controlled South Vietnam for years and then lost the war. Soviets won militarily in Afghanistan and occupied Kabul and then lost the war. So did US 30 years later.

    There is no such thing as winning “militarily” and then losing. It is simply a loss. Iraqis outplayed you.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    In 1982 Argentina occupied the Maldives and then lost the war.
     
    Because their military was defeated.

    Napoleon marched to Moscow and lost the war.
     
    Because most of his soldiers were killed by the climate and the remnants were defeated by Russians and others.

    US defeated the Iraqis, eliminated its leadership and military, and installed a government it wanted in about 5 weeks. It lost 172 soldiers (including Brits).

    You call that losing.

    Russia meanwhile, after more than 2 years, only grabbed about 9% of Ukraine, lost 100,000+ soldiers, doesn't hold a single provincial capital, lost 1/3 of its nearby fleet, and has become victim to regular Ukrainian attacks deep into its own territory.

    You insist that Russia is winning :-)

    But Ukraine is not in NATO. Like Iraq has no WMDs. :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

  727. @sudden death
    @sudden death

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Lithuania_territory_1939-1940.png

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Peace_Treaty#

    Replies: @Beckow

    The map is nice (thanks) but an example of the wiki subtle propaganda. The Lithuanian territories occupied by Poland between 1920-39 were given to Lithuania in 1939 by Russia including Vilnius – but the map uses the weasel term ‘transferred by Soviets’ – Poland’s occupation is not mentioned. The German one is labeled correctly.

    It is inconsistent and that is not accidental. Why do Westies insist on lying and obfuscation even in small things?

    • Agree: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    Why do Westies insist on lying and obfuscation even in small things?
     
    We are an empire now and we create our own reality.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  728. @A123
    @Beckow


    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war.
     
    You are not using the English language correctly. To everyone:

    • The U.S. won the military war. Iraqi forces were convincingly defeated and the government was disbanded. These are the measures of a military war victory. The only way that Iraq could have won the war is if they defeated U.S. forces. I think you will agree that did not happen.

    • GW Bush's post-war activities failed. Partition was clearly the best option. A strong, authoritarian central government might have worked. However, Bush's team went for a weak, Lebanon style, federation that was unstable. No one accepted it. And that post-war policy has been a fiasco for many years.
    ____

    I would strongly suggest giving up on analogies between U.S.-Iraq and Russia-Ukraine. They are very different in different in technology, geography, timeline, strategy, and tactics:

    -- At best, the comparison is irrelevant and thus unhelpful.
    -- At worst, you are undermining your own position.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    GW Bush’s post-war activities failed. Partition was clearly the best option. A strong, authoritarian central government might have worked. However, Bush’s team went for a weak, Lebanon style, federation that was unstable. No one accepted it. And that post-war policy has been a fiasco for many years.

    It had some problems for years and especially with ISIS but they currently have a functioning democracy. Iraq didn’t dissolve into disparate factions as many predicted. That’s impressive given that they have both Sunni and Shia Muslims. They have proven that Saddam wasn’t needed to for them to live next to each other.

    In fact I would add that Biden and congress could very do their part in destabilizing the gains made in Iraq by constantly taking the side of Israel. It could very well lead to a new Muslim faction that demands a split from the US and closer ties to Iran. This would be a great time for the US to be just a tad more neutral in the ME but that is of course highly unlikely.

  729. @Beckow
    @sudden death

    The map is nice (thanks) but an example of the wiki subtle propaganda. The Lithuanian territories occupied by Poland between 1920-39 were given to Lithuania in 1939 by Russia including Vilnius - but the map uses the weasel term 'transferred by Soviets' - Poland's occupation is not mentioned. The German one is labeled correctly.

    It is inconsistent and that is not accidental. Why do Westies insist on lying and obfuscation even in small things?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Why do Westies insist on lying and obfuscation even in small things?

    We are an empire now and we create our own reality.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    We are an empire now and we create our own reality.
     
    The problem all empires experienced before and the US is experiencing now is that the reality (real one, not the one the empires believe they make) comes to bite them in the ass. That’s why the West is currently in trouble: those who start believing their own propaganda are doomed.
  730. @Bashibuzuk
    It’s reassuring to see that some things really don’t change. Reading through the comments, I felt as if I watched from some vantage point the Earth calmly revolving around the Dun. Such a peaceful feeling to permanence.

    Blinky are you still around sometimes?

    Where is our “Asian bromance” friend?

    Did Altan reappear?

    LatW, being bitter bout these pesky Russkies doesn’t do you any good. You are too clever to blindly hate for the rest of your life.

    Mikel and Dima are as brilliant debaters as usual and the (lack of) outcome of their debates is just as predictable.

    Same about AP and Bekow.

    Greetings to Mr Hack and Pr. AnonfromTN.

    Greetings to our Sikh friend as well.

    Greetings of course to my esoteric friend Emil and our idiosyncratic friend songbird.

    And yeah, I’ve been to Bali a few months ago and immensely enjoyed seeing Swastikas featured prominently on the old Balinese Hindu temples. Russian language was often spoken by tourists (draft dodgers) both the Katsap and the who seemed to get along just fine. It felt kinda home…

    Speaking of home, this old Soviet medical video makes me feel nostalgic:

    https://youtu.be/Yz0h1DlurHo?feature=shared

    In retrospect, the world was then a much saner place.

    Alright, I wish you all well.

    Не скучайте без меня!

    🙂

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @Mikel, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Welcome back Bashibuzuk. I envy your ability to leave this forum and disappear for months. Whenever I try to do that, I find that there are no other places on the internet to hold uncensored, long-form discussions on matters of my interest and I end up coming back here, where as even some of the protagonists confess, the discussions are desperately repetitive.

    Thank you for the kind words too. However, I couldn’t disagree more with you. The outcome of the debate Dmitry is trying to have with the whole medical establishment is more than predictable. As a matter of fact, I was wondering if there is a cultural disconnect and I’m not reading him right. Could it be that you Russians are prone to categorical statements, not to be taken literally but just as a provocative way of debating? I think I’ve seen you and AnonfromTN making bold assertions too, though probably not as bold as Dmitry’s.

    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don’t exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?

    Hope you stick around for a while anyway. Just take it easy and don’t make your wife reprimand you. We’re all on the same boat, it may be annoying when she starts nagging in the middle of a heated debate but at the end of the day wives make us be more grounded to the earth.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses
     
    Russia is very strong in some areas (e.g., math, physics) and much weaker in others (e.g., in my field of cell and molecular biology).

    wives make us be more grounded to the earth.
     
    Can’t agree more. Females make us more human. People in all-male mobs (like in some Moslem countries) do not behave like intelligent beings.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel


    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don’t exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?
     
    Medicine is as much art as science. Russian medicine has differences. They invented modern performance enhancing drugs back in the 1960's. Look at some of those old Olympic competitions and seeing is believing. Jordan Peterson went to a Russian hospital to get de-addicted from benzos. They put him into a coma for 15 or 20 days. This treatment is not a legal procedure in the United States, Britain, France, or Germany. There is another addiction treatment they have where they induce a hypnotic trance and a hidden practitioner behind the patient conks him on the head with a hammer hard enough that he sees stars but not hard enough to make him unconscious. The instant before the hammer comes down the hypnotist tells him,

    "this is what your drinking [or whatever] is doing to you."

    Maybe Peterson tried that and it didn't work. If I was him I definitely would have tried that before the coma.

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC, @Mikel

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikel

    Yeah, this forum has its own charm. It feels like an old pair of worn and comfortable sleepers. Our World is rushing at mad speed towards a future unknown, but here we can always read about the glorious past of the Habsburg Central Europe (wink AP) or some nerdy stuff about the Japanese-Chinese relationship of centuries past (wink Bromance and Blinky). And of course, I have contributed to this “out of time” ambiance through my lengthy past ramblings about the Corded Ware vs. Bellbeaker folks Bronze Age dynamics. 🙂

    Debating Dima is an interesting experience, I have never read him conceding that he might be wrong about anything. Of course he is quite astute and knowledgeable, but he is first and foremost stubborn.

    Russians have sometimes a weird sense of humour, making bold or outlandish statements is sometimes just part of a joke (at least in my case). Don’t know about Dima and Pr. Tennessee. On the other hand, I have always found your comments as very informative and grounded. Your humour is less into the absurd and more into the ironic.

    And yeah Mikel, we were right you and I when we wrote about Milei. He is indeed the first AnCap president just like we both wrote he might well become. I remember Dima contracting us at the time about Milei being a “classical liberal” or something among these lines… 🙂

    Replies: @Mikel

  731. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    Why do Westies insist on lying and obfuscation even in small things?
     
    We are an empire now and we create our own reality.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    We are an empire now and we create our own reality.

    The problem all empires experienced before and the US is experiencing now is that the reality (real one, not the one the empires believe they make) comes to bite them in the ass. That’s why the West is currently in trouble: those who start believing their own propaganda are doomed.

  732. @Mikel
    @Bashibuzuk

    Welcome back Bashibuzuk. I envy your ability to leave this forum and disappear for months. Whenever I try to do that, I find that there are no other places on the internet to hold uncensored, long-form discussions on matters of my interest and I end up coming back here, where as even some of the protagonists confess, the discussions are desperately repetitive.

    Thank you for the kind words too. However, I couldn't disagree more with you. The outcome of the debate Dmitry is trying to have with the whole medical establishment is more than predictable. As a matter of fact, I was wondering if there is a cultural disconnect and I'm not reading him right. Could it be that you Russians are prone to categorical statements, not to be taken literally but just as a provocative way of debating? I think I've seen you and AnonfromTN making bold assertions too, though probably not as bold as Dmitry's.

    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don't exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?

    Hope you stick around for a while anyway. Just take it easy and don't make your wife reprimand you. We're all on the same boat, it may be annoying when she starts nagging in the middle of a heated debate but at the end of the day wives make us be more grounded to the earth.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Bashibuzuk

    Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses

    Russia is very strong in some areas (e.g., math, physics) and much weaker in others (e.g., in my field of cell and molecular biology).

    wives make us be more grounded to the earth.

    Can’t agree more. Females make us more human. People in all-male mobs (like in some Moslem countries) do not behave like intelligent beings.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    What do they say about HIV?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  733. @Mikel
    @Bashibuzuk

    Welcome back Bashibuzuk. I envy your ability to leave this forum and disappear for months. Whenever I try to do that, I find that there are no other places on the internet to hold uncensored, long-form discussions on matters of my interest and I end up coming back here, where as even some of the protagonists confess, the discussions are desperately repetitive.

    Thank you for the kind words too. However, I couldn't disagree more with you. The outcome of the debate Dmitry is trying to have with the whole medical establishment is more than predictable. As a matter of fact, I was wondering if there is a cultural disconnect and I'm not reading him right. Could it be that you Russians are prone to categorical statements, not to be taken literally but just as a provocative way of debating? I think I've seen you and AnonfromTN making bold assertions too, though probably not as bold as Dmitry's.

    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don't exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?

    Hope you stick around for a while anyway. Just take it easy and don't make your wife reprimand you. We're all on the same boat, it may be annoying when she starts nagging in the middle of a heated debate but at the end of the day wives make us be more grounded to the earth.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Bashibuzuk

    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don’t exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?

    Medicine is as much art as science. Russian medicine has differences. They invented modern performance enhancing drugs back in the 1960’s. Look at some of those old Olympic competitions and seeing is believing. Jordan Peterson went to a Russian hospital to get de-addicted from benzos. They put him into a coma for 15 or 20 days. This treatment is not a legal procedure in the United States, Britain, France, or Germany. There is another addiction treatment they have where they induce a hypnotic trance and a hidden practitioner behind the patient conks him on the head with a hammer hard enough that he sees stars but not hard enough to make him unconscious. The instant before the hammer comes down the hypnotist tells him,

    “this is what your drinking [or whatever] is doing to you.”

    Maybe Peterson tried that and it didn’t work. If I was him I definitely would have tried that before the coma.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    The instant before the hammer comes down the hypnotist tells him,

    “this is what your drinking [or whatever] is doing to you.”
     
    Think I would try disulfiram first.
    , @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I think he tried it. The side effect is that he is now a raving Zionist.

    , @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Maybe Peterson tried that and it didn’t work. If I was him I definitely would have tried that before the coma.
     
    I would had rather tried the hammer therapy than the induced coma too. I know that benzos are a bitch, a wonder drug for some conditions but a withdrawal syndrome comparable to hard drugs. However, couldn't he find some elite rehab center somewhere in the West? He's also on an insane beef-only + supplements diet. The supplements are for all the essential nutrients that beef cannot provide. So his Russian coma therapy choice was probably just another manifestation of his eccentricity.
  734. New Negress appointed to Derry as mayor is Northern Ireland’s first Maasai mayor. Looking forward to the new cattle raids, with Nilotic factions added.

    No word on whether she is descended from Mau Mau cannibals yet. But maybe higher odds than Barrack.

    Or lactose tolerant. Most Maasai are not, but they do have relatively high rates for Africa.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird

    I watched an old documentary about the writer Evelyn Waugh at the weekend and it inspired me to get a copy of Black Mischief, a novel inspired by his experiences in Abyssinia when he was reporting on Haile Selassie's coronation. I read a few Waugh books years ago but missed Black Mischief, and it feels more relevant now than it would have in the 90s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mischief

    Start of the plot synopsis on wiki:


    After winning a civil war against his late father Seyid (who is unfortunately eaten by his own soldiers), Seth, Oxford-educated emperor of the fictional nation of Azania, makes it his goal to modernise his country. He recruits Basil Seal, a shiftless college friend and heir to an English political family in the country after stealing his mother’s jewellery to pay for his ticket...
     
  735. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel


    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don’t exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?
     
    Medicine is as much art as science. Russian medicine has differences. They invented modern performance enhancing drugs back in the 1960's. Look at some of those old Olympic competitions and seeing is believing. Jordan Peterson went to a Russian hospital to get de-addicted from benzos. They put him into a coma for 15 or 20 days. This treatment is not a legal procedure in the United States, Britain, France, or Germany. There is another addiction treatment they have where they induce a hypnotic trance and a hidden practitioner behind the patient conks him on the head with a hammer hard enough that he sees stars but not hard enough to make him unconscious. The instant before the hammer comes down the hypnotist tells him,

    "this is what your drinking [or whatever] is doing to you."

    Maybe Peterson tried that and it didn't work. If I was him I definitely would have tried that before the coma.

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC, @Mikel

    The instant before the hammer comes down the hypnotist tells him,

    “this is what your drinking [or whatever] is doing to you.”

    Think I would try disulfiram first.

  736. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel


    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don’t exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?
     
    Medicine is as much art as science. Russian medicine has differences. They invented modern performance enhancing drugs back in the 1960's. Look at some of those old Olympic competitions and seeing is believing. Jordan Peterson went to a Russian hospital to get de-addicted from benzos. They put him into a coma for 15 or 20 days. This treatment is not a legal procedure in the United States, Britain, France, or Germany. There is another addiction treatment they have where they induce a hypnotic trance and a hidden practitioner behind the patient conks him on the head with a hammer hard enough that he sees stars but not hard enough to make him unconscious. The instant before the hammer comes down the hypnotist tells him,

    "this is what your drinking [or whatever] is doing to you."

    Maybe Peterson tried that and it didn't work. If I was him I definitely would have tried that before the coma.

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC, @Mikel

    I think he tried it. The side effect is that he is now a raving Zionist.

  737. @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    While I know less, I can perhaps be more objective about it than actual Russians. I have read Peter Turchin on the basis of Russia society, and Ukrainian society even more so (Roxolana). What Peter Frost says of Russia is relevant. In 2015 he was quite prescient I think
    https://www.unz.com/pfrost/impressions-of-russia/


    In my opinion Russia is the opposite of Denmark, which is the W.E.IR.D.est of all countries (and the least warlike).

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I have read Peter Turchin on the basis of Russia society

    Peter Turchin was last time on Russian territory back in the USSR in 1986. I know because I was in the same group with him at Moscow State University. He never was in modern Russia (the RF). I have no idea what he says now, but I know for sure that it is not based on personal experience.

    What Peter Frost says of Russia is relevant.

    Did he ever live in Russia to get first-hand experience? To know how Russian society functions you have to not only be there, but to earn your living there for at least a year or two. Otherwise what he says is as relevant as my opinion about Martian society.

    As a scientist I know for sure that my opinion about Russian society based on annual 2-3-week visits is limited, even though I get some additional info from relatives and other people I deal with who live and work there. The opinions of people who have even less first-hand experience are simply worthless.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AnonfromTN

    Correction about Peter Turchin: actually, he left Russia (then the USSR) in 1976, i.e., 48 years ago.

    Replies: @Sean

  738. @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    I have read Peter Turchin on the basis of Russia society
     
    Peter Turchin was last time on Russian territory back in the USSR in 1986. I know because I was in the same group with him at Moscow State University. He never was in modern Russia (the RF). I have no idea what he says now, but I know for sure that it is not based on personal experience.

    What Peter Frost says of Russia is relevant.
     
    Did he ever live in Russia to get first-hand experience? To know how Russian society functions you have to not only be there, but to earn your living there for at least a year or two. Otherwise what he says is as relevant as my opinion about Martian society.

    As a scientist I know for sure that my opinion about Russian society based on annual 2-3-week visits is limited, even though I get some additional info from relatives and other people I deal with who live and work there. The opinions of people who have even less first-hand experience are simply worthless.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Correction about Peter Turchin: actually, he left Russia (then the USSR) in 1976, i.e., 48 years ago.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    Peter Turchin is the son of an expelled dissident (a physicist), that is why he ceased to live in Russia in the seventies . In 2010 Turchin was one of a number of influential scientists and tech figured invited by the Nature to look into a crystal ball; he predicted a decade of instability in the West, reaching a crescendo “around 2020” and prolly lasting at least another five years. Of late he says the war had made Russia more stable because the people who went abroad, reduced immigration, and massively increased industry (eg immense 24/7 shell production), means workers in Russia have good prospects. Russia is a military autocracy command economy, so how can it not be backward, even as it is winning?


    https://www.unz.com/pfrost/the-other-slave-trade/

    Crimean Tatars who lived under Ottoman protection in the Black Sea region. Beginning in the mid-15th century, they would fan out each year on raids into what is now Ukraine and southern Russia. These raids served no military purpose, being driven by the profits to be made in the slave trade:

    […] most of these raids do not appear to have had any military purpose and, moreover, had little or no relationship to Ottoman policy. They were an integral part of the Crimean economy, a “harvesting of the steppe” as the Tatars explained it. (Fisher, 1973)

    [...]
    Conclusion

    Slave trading existed in many parts of the world and during many historical periods. Trading in fair-skinned women, however, was much more limited in space and time. There is no evidence of it during Roman times, at least not on a large scale. If a Roman notable wanted a bride with milk-white skin, he would look among the families in his entourage and not among the slaves at the local market. After all, a native-born woman of good family would bring a dowry and valuable family connections.
    All of this changed in the 7th century with the dramatic expansion of the Arab world into the Middle East and thence into North Africa and Spain. The new elites were darker in skin tone and, also, more polygynous. It was these two factors that would fuel demand for fair-skinned brides and concubines.

    A third factor was of course the relative weakness of European societies, particularly during the Dark Ages that followed the collapse of the Roman Empire. With the gradual strengthening of European states, this trade increasingly took the form of hit-and-run raids that focused on poorly defended areas, such as the plains north of the Black Sea. This raiding would finally end only with European annexation of those “states” that earned most of their income from the slave trade, such as the Khanate of the Crimea and the Beyliks of North Africa.

    Would this trade have continued if Europe had remained weak? Probably. Would it have eventually become more humane and sustainable? Doubtful. Though often described as “harvesting,” there never was any effort to make it sustainable. A Tatar raid typically left behind the old and the very young, as a Polish report noted: “In the fields and forests they [i.e. the Tatars] left behind over 200 poor children whom they could not take along since everyone preferred to take horses and oxen rather than children” (Kolodziejczyk, 2006).

    The result was widespread depopulation of much of Ukraine and southern Russia, which in turn forced the Tatars to raid farther and farther afield, even as far as present-day Poland. Demographic wastage was considerable:

    The Crimean Tatar society was based on raiding the neighbouring Slavic and Caucasian sedentary societies and selling the captives into the slave markets of Eurasia. Approximately 75 percent of the Crimean population consisted of slaves or freedmen, and much of the free population was highly predatory, engaged either in the gathering of slaves or in the selling of them. It is known that for every slave the Crimeans sold in the market, they killed outright several other people during their raids, and a couple more died on the way to the slave market. (Britannica, 2013)

    There was no resource management, only resource depletion (Wikipedia, 2013). As Kolodziejczyk (2006) notes:

    We should not close our eyes to the consequences of depopulation, affecting large Slavic territories in Eastern Europe. If an “alternative” history of Ukraine were imaginable, perhaps the country’s historical development would have looked different had it not been for the slave trade
     
    .

    Ukraine is considered to be part of ‘Old Europe’ yet the plains north of the Black Sea were finally opened for settlement at about the same time as the plains of the United States and Canada.
     
    Peter Turchin's hypothesis is settlers on the steppe frontier, subject to woman stealing attacks by mounted hordes were forced to form what eventually became empires . Volha Charnysh ( Ford Career Development Associate Professor of Political Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology) has a closely related argument about predatory pastoralist raids causing state formation. If Putin had paid attention to the origin of what is especially the Ukrainians' national psyche, then he would have realised they were an opponent best avoided.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

  739. @songbird
    New Negress appointed to Derry as mayor is Northern Ireland's first Maasai mayor. Looking forward to the new cattle raids, with Nilotic factions added.

    No word on whether she is descended from Mau Mau cannibals yet. But maybe higher odds than Barrack.

    Or lactose tolerant. Most Maasai are not, but they do have relatively high rates for Africa.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    I watched an old documentary about the writer Evelyn Waugh at the weekend and it inspired me to get a copy of Black Mischief, a novel inspired by his experiences in Abyssinia when he was reporting on Haile Selassie’s coronation. I read a few Waugh books years ago but missed Black Mischief, and it feels more relevant now than it would have in the 90s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mischief

    Start of the plot synopsis on wiki:

    After winning a civil war against his late father Seyid (who is unfortunately eaten by his own soldiers), Seth, Oxford-educated emperor of the fictional nation of Azania, makes it his goal to modernise his country. He recruits Basil Seal, a shiftless college friend and heir to an English political family in the country after stealing his mother’s jewellery to pay for his ticket…

    • Thanks: songbird
  740. Today on Dr. No and Friends:

    1. Dr. No says he thought Marjorie Taylor’s proposed bill made sense

    2. A Russian bouncer shares a fishing analogy and everyone laughs

    3. Nuking the West is suggested and the bouncer describes the Russian people as normal

    Marjorie seems to believe in Jewish conspiracies. Is she a fan of Dr. No or does his Jewishness turn her off?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    And yeah, Solovyov lived and worked for some time in US after the Soviet collapse. I would not be surprised in the slightest if he had the US citizenship and of course the Israeli one. The more passports, the merrier!

    https://russian.palinfo.com/Uploads/Models/Media/old/oldimages/05/solovev.jpg

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan. The Noviop are a funny bunch.

    🙂

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @LT1488, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  741. Battle of the Nations
    Russia Kazakhstan

    [MORE]

    Nadal fell in 3rd round; maybe the 2022 French Open was his last hurrah. : (
    Medvedev looked like a world beater today. : )

  742. @Beckow
    @AP

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war. But you think differently. US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers. They also killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi civilians. Is that not a war crime? US waged an aggressive war half-way around the world, killed civilians, then left in a hurry. That is both a crime and lost war. That's the way everyone sees it and how people in the future will look at it.

    Killing the unpopular leader is not winning. The lie that "US started the war because of WMD's" is beneath us. It was such on obvious lie and a cheap excuse, that you using it demeans you even more. Fine, you a fanatic believer, but you don't get to pretend that "it was all ok, 'cause WMDs!" This is Unz, people here presumably have 3-digit IQs (ok, there is Mr. Hack, but he is harmless).

    Russia is winning in Ukraine. The only question is whether it will be a small 20% win with and neutral Ukraine, or a big win. Bombing Russia is insignificant, I am surprised you use it - like the terrorism in US, UK, France (lots of it in the recent years) - it changes nothing materially and only makes people more angry and willing to fight.

    Even your numbers are wrong, 10+8=18 not the current 21-22%. But the war is about all of the disputed territories, including Crimea. That's what Zelko and the Western sponsors say - they are the ones fighting, not you. And how about that "paused offensive"? When is it going to restart?

    You are basically a moron so there is no point trying to explain it to you - you are so ideologically committed that you don't see reality from both sides. Good luck with that, it never works...

    Replies: @John Johnson, @John Johnson, @A123, @AP

    To everyone the US aggressive illegal war on Iraq looked like a failure, a lost war.

    To whom? Confused and dishonest Beckow?

    US effectively occupied only a part of the country and eventually left losing a trillion dollars in treasure and thousands of dead soldiers. They also killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi civilians. Is that not a war crime?

    US captured the entire country including its capital, eliminated the enemy’s army, and captured or killed the enemy’s leadership. It imposed its preferred government upon the country, one that ran elections.

    That’s what victory is.

    The fact that the war was criminal, or expensive, or not worth it is an entirely different matter. You are trying to change the subject because you are wrong and desperate.

    The lie that “US started the war because of WMD’s” is beneath us. It was such on obvious lie and a cheap excuse

    You are so inadequate that you didn’t even understand that I was deliberately using the WMD excuse for American dummies, to highlight the stupidity of the NATO excuse for Russian dummies – like you.

    I thought you were at least a midwit, but maybe I was wrong.

    What do you think I mean by the bolded part in what I wrote to you?

    You are stupid but you are not consistent in your stupidity. If Russia won because Ukraine isn’t in NATO (it wasn’t anyways), USA won because Saddam didn’t get WMDs.”

    I’ll spell it out clearly for you:

    Saddam had no WMDs although he sometimes threatened to have them. USA invaded, and Iraq still doesn’t have them. Victory!

    Ukraine was not in NATO, although it declared it would be. It still does, and so does NATO. But it isn’t. Victory!

    We know you are stupid, but you should at least be consistent in your stupidity.

    Bombing Russia is insignificant, I am surprised you use it – like the terrorism in US, UK, France (lots of it in the recent years) – it changes nothing materially

    Ukraine has already eliminated 6% or so of Russia’s refining capacity, which is much more than terrorists do.

    only makes people more angry and willing to fight.

    Nonsense. It make gas more expensive for them, but doesn’t kill them.

    Even your numbers are wrong, 10+8=18 not the current 21-22%.

    Says the guy who can’t keep his numbers straight.

    As of March 5, after Russians took Avdiivka, it was 17.5%:

    https://www.russiamatters.org/news/russia-ukraine-war-report-card/russia-ukraine-war-report-card-march-5-2024

    “Including territory occupied before 2022, Russia now controls about 41,000 square miles (17.5%) of Ukraine.”

    Russia has expanded beyond Avdiivka by taking several more villages, so it is probably in the 18% to 19% range.

    This is only a slight improvement for Russia from 16% in January 2023:

    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/01/06/war-in-ukraine-russia-now-controls-only-16-of-ukrainian-territory_6010578_8.html

    And much less than the 27% Russia controlled in early 2022.

  743. Bashibuzuk says:
    @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    Referring to Dugin as "Putin's Brain" never made much sense to me. In the US, this phrasing became popular during the George W. Bush political era. The political strategist Karl Rove was widely considered (and accepted!) to be "Bush's brain", at least functionally but probably not literally. Bush was an idiot so this made sense. On the other hand, his true fans desperately wanted to believe he was faking his mental dullness for effect.

    Since Putin is obviously mentally competent and apparently very bright, referring to Dugin as his brain confuses me a bit. I wonder if this is an attempt to retroactively make Bush look smarter than he was, part of a long-term hagiography?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Bashibuzuk

    Dugin is entertaining . For those who followed his career during the few decades that he was of any public notoriety, it is self evident that no one in the RusFedian elites takes Dugin and his followers seriously.

    Before becoming a “philosopher”, Dugim was part and parcel of a fringe “commune” of deviants who opposed the Soviet way of life in the 1970ies and early 80ies. That group, headed by Mamleev (a surréaliste poet) and Geydar Djamal (an Azeri-born Islamist third worldist), was mainly staffed with bored Moscovite golden youth who rebelled against their successful parents’ careerism and Soviet era conformism. Dugin’s dad was a counterespionage general of Old Believer background (some Old Believers happily joined the Bolshevik Revolution because it allowed them to settle scores with the hated Romanovs).

    But the youngsters in the Mamleev group didn’t want to follow in their parents footsteps. They wished for the “mysterious and forbidden”, they were into “sexual experimentation”, drugs and all kinds of esotericism. Some of them became famous, Geydar Djamal and Dugin among them. But most became druggies and sexual deviants, like Dugin’s first wife (and mother of his first child, a son) that is barely mentioned in Dugin’s biography and who was among the founding members of the first Perestroika time Soviet LGBTQ organization.

    During that time, the young Dugin, who had the opportunity to access the KGB Third Reich archives through his dad’s connections, became radicalized and joined the first Russian nationalist organization – the Pamyat’ (Memory) Society. Then after Pamyat’ played its part in the Soviets’ downfall, Dugin joined the bisexual writer Limonov and the punk-rock singer Yegor Letov to start the National-Bolshevik party. It was much later (around a decade later) than Dugin became the guru of Traditionalism and returned to his Old Believer roots. So when he talks about extremes of sexual liberation, family structure disruption and individualism, he knows what he is talking about.

    For those who understand Russian, the young Dugin in 1988:

    He has always been charismatic. And of course he aged well. He had a strong influence on the “Dark Internationale” across FUSSR (the lady responsible for the Azov Battalion “spirituality” was one of Dugin’s pupils) and Europe, even US (he influenced the Alt Right). Just like Djamal had a strong influence on the Islamists and Muslim minorities’ nationalists in the RusFed.

    Yeah, a sad thing to mention, both Djamal and Dugin got their children killed. Djamal got his son murdered by Wagnerites in Africa where he was part of a reporter group who investigated Wagner Group. Darya Dugina was of course killed by SBU, who most probably targeted her dad and not her.

    Karma for all those kids they influenced towards radicalism, some of whom got murdered by the RusFedian state itself?

    God only knows…

    • Thanks: AP, QCIC
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk


    For those who followed his career during the few decades that he was of any public notoriety, it is self evident that no one in the RusFedian elites takes Dugin and his followers seriously.
     
    1. Heidegger; 2. Crowley.

    How can anybody take this man seriously? This stuff is for entertainment.

    Join my movement and Be Who Thou Wilt Towards Death!

    Is the Azov Battalion ideologue's ideology available in English translation? Is she really a lady or are you being sly?

    If Dugin had tried to go for smaller groups like Gurdjieff that would have had some potential. Nyet on mass movement motion. Does Dugin drink a lot?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Bashibuzuk

    First welcome back.

    Dugin wrote in The Foundations of Geopolitics-- China, which posed a threat to Russia, had to be “territorially disintegrated, divided, and politically and administratively partitioned” and “split up to the greatest extent possible.

    https://pic4.zhimg.com/v2-781725117214fd2965ece84dbd530d2b_r.jpg

    ...Then he got on the CCP's payroll at Fudan 复旦 University.

    https://p0.51img.ca/i/63063b77f32e3:original.jpeg

    You can see how some Chinese, view him, and the type of wignats gravitated towards him, to be pathetically degenerate.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Bashibuzuk

  744. @Beckow
    @A123

    You can play semantic games but there was only one Iraq War - US lost it. The pre-, post-, admin issues, etc... are of no importance. There was one war and US lost. Military advances mean very little if you lose the war at the end. The early 'military' victories are kind of pointless if they lead to a withdrawal.

    In 1982 Argentina occupied the Maldives and then lost the war. Napoleon marched to Moscow and lost the war. US controlled South Vietnam for years and then lost the war. Soviets won militarily in Afghanistan and occupied Kabul and then lost the war. So did US 30 years later.

    There is no such thing as winning "militarily" and then losing. It is simply a loss. Iraqis outplayed you.

    Replies: @AP

    In 1982 Argentina occupied the Maldives and then lost the war.

    Because their military was defeated.

    Napoleon marched to Moscow and lost the war.

    Because most of his soldiers were killed by the climate and the remnants were defeated by Russians and others.

    US defeated the Iraqis, eliminated its leadership and military, and installed a government it wanted in about 5 weeks. It lost 172 soldiers (including Brits).

    You call that losing.

    Russia meanwhile, after more than 2 years, only grabbed about 9% of Ukraine, lost 100,000+ soldiers, doesn’t hold a single provincial capital, lost 1/3 of its nearby fleet, and has become victim to regular Ukrainian attacks deep into its own territory.

    You insist that Russia is winning 🙂

    But Ukraine is not in NATO. Like Iraq has no WMDs. 🙂

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...But Ukraine is not in NATO. Like Iraq has no WMDs.
     
    An interesting although a far-fetched analogy: wars caused by the perception of a possible threat. Let's be generous and assume US-UK feared Iraq's WMDs as much as Russia feared Nato-in-Ukraine.

    Both acted and started wars, but you denounce one and defend the other. Why? Isn't it hypocrisy? US-UK justified their war by fear of Iraq's WMDs, why can't Russia do the same with fear of Nato-in-Ukraine? Let's leave aside the possibility that US-UK and Russia both pretended and had other goals. Both times the wars started by acting against UN Charter.

    What happened to US-UK for its illegal Iraq war? Nothing: the authors were celebrated, people like you lie about it with 'cause WMDs, media tries to forget the hundreds of thousands dead Iraqis.

    US-UK did it first, more Iraqis were killed with shock-n-awe bombing of civilians and cities - Russia hasn't done it yet. With all due respect until the West - that you try to represent here - cleans up its own house they have no standing in Ukraine.

    Don't try the lame escape into 'but, what-aboutism' - rules and laws either apply to all or they don't exist, that's the definition of having rules and laws. US-UK did it first and there were no consequences (Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Libya...). Today we are living in a zero-sum world with no enforceable rules and the stronger side wins. The West threw away the rules-based order, too late to cry over spilled milk...To fix it you will have to first start at home.

    Replies: @AP

  745. Bashibuzuk says:
    @John Johnson
    Today on Dr. No and Friends:

    1. Dr. No says he thought Marjorie Taylor's proposed bill made sense

    2. A Russian bouncer shares a fishing analogy and everyone laughs

    3. Nuking the West is suggested and the bouncer describes the Russian people as normal

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TrpnpjHCqk

    Marjorie seems to believe in Jewish conspiracies. Is she a fan of Dr. No or does his Jewishness turn her off?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    And yeah, Solovyov lived and worked for some time in US after the Soviet collapse. I would not be surprised in the slightest if he had the US citizenship and of course the Israeli one. The more passports, the merrier!

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan. The Noviop are a funny bunch.

    🙂

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    Does being a Noviop equate to having a Jewish background?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @John Johnson
    @Bashibuzuk

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    Anglin might find that interesting.

    He does a lot of posts on Jews in US government but never Russia.

    I'm sure he will be doing a post on Putin's Jews any day now.

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan.

    I've seen a couple episodes of the Dr. No and Friends.

    He seemed most upset by losing his Italian villa. He also doesn't seem to see the irony of casually talking about nuking the West and then calling them animals and monsters.

    Ben Shapiro is much better at his job. Dr. No in the US would be a low level TV news producer. He would not be able to hack it on Fox. He reminds me of Candace Owens in that he goes into crazyland when off script and doesn't seem to realize it. There also wouldn't be a State TV to help hide his male model son in London.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @LT1488
    @Bashibuzuk

    When will they interview Galkovsky?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @Bashibuzuk



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Pn-meeting-profsojuz-1998-chubais.jpg

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segal

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Bashibuzuk

  746. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses
     
    Russia is very strong in some areas (e.g., math, physics) and much weaker in others (e.g., in my field of cell and molecular biology).

    wives make us be more grounded to the earth.
     
    Can’t agree more. Females make us more human. People in all-male mobs (like in some Moslem countries) do not behave like intelligent beings.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    What do they say about HIV?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    What do they say about HIV?
     
    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

    HIV is a lentivirus. Unlike many mammalian viruses, it has relatively little of the cytoplasm of the cell it buds off:
    https://cdn.rcsb.org/pdb101/learn/resources/structural-biology-of-hiv/index.html

    In science gutted replication-deficient lentivirus is used for delivery of DNA to cells to express desired proteins. It takes longer chunks of DNA (so you can use large cell type-specific promoters and express larger proteins) than smaller adeno-associated viruses (AAVs), although less than adenoviruses, both of which in replication-deficient form are also used for gene delivery. The beauty of lentivirus is that it yields protein expression in a few days, whereas AAVs yield max expression after two weeks. Lentiviruses yield reasonably low expression levels (close to normal levels of endogenous proteins), whereas AAV-driven expression tends to be crazy high.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Emil Nikola Richard

  747. @Bashibuzuk
    @QCIC

    Dugin is entertaining . For those who followed his career during the few decades that he was of any public notoriety, it is self evident that no one in the RusFedian elites takes Dugin and his followers seriously.

    Before becoming a “philosopher”, Dugim was part and parcel of a fringe “commune” of deviants who opposed the Soviet way of life in the 1970ies and early 80ies. That group, headed by Mamleev (a surréaliste poet) and Geydar Djamal (an Azeri-born Islamist third worldist), was mainly staffed with bored Moscovite golden youth who rebelled against their successful parents’ careerism and Soviet era conformism. Dugin’s dad was a counterespionage general of Old Believer background (some Old Believers happily joined the Bolshevik Revolution because it allowed them to settle scores with the hated Romanovs).

    But the youngsters in the Mamleev group didn’t want to follow in their parents footsteps. They wished for the “mysterious and forbidden”, they were into “sexual experimentation”, drugs and all kinds of esotericism. Some of them became famous, Geydar Djamal and Dugin among them. But most became druggies and sexual deviants, like Dugin’s first wife (and mother of his first child, a son) that is barely mentioned in Dugin’s biography and who was among the founding members of the first Perestroika time Soviet LGBTQ organization.

    During that time, the young Dugin, who had the opportunity to access the KGB Third Reich archives through his dad’s connections, became radicalized and joined the first Russian nationalist organization - the Pamyat’ (Memory) Society. Then after Pamyat’ played its part in the Soviets’ downfall, Dugin joined the bisexual writer Limonov and the punk-rock singer Yegor Letov to start the National-Bolshevik party. It was much later (around a decade later) than Dugin became the guru of Traditionalism and returned to his Old Believer roots. So when he talks about extremes of sexual liberation, family structure disruption and individualism, he knows what he is talking about.

    For those who understand Russian, the young Dugin in 1988:

    https://youtu.be/cLLEAAaL6Jo?feature=shared

    He has always been charismatic. And of course he aged well. He had a strong influence on the “Dark Internationale” across FUSSR (the lady responsible for the Azov Battalion “spirituality” was one of Dugin’s pupils) and Europe, even US (he influenced the Alt Right). Just like Djamal had a strong influence on the Islamists and Muslim minorities’ nationalists in the RusFed.

    Yeah, a sad thing to mention, both Djamal and Dugin got their children killed. Djamal got his son murdered by Wagnerites in Africa where he was part of a reporter group who investigated Wagner Group. Darya Dugina was of course killed by SBU, who most probably targeted her dad and not her.

    Karma for all those kids they influenced towards radicalism, some of whom got murdered by the RusFedian state itself?

    God only knows…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    For those who followed his career during the few decades that he was of any public notoriety, it is self evident that no one in the RusFedian elites takes Dugin and his followers seriously.

    1. Heidegger; 2. Crowley.

    How can anybody take this man seriously? This stuff is for entertainment.

    Join my movement and Be Who Thou Wilt Towards Death!

    Is the Azov Battalion ideologue’s ideology available in English translation? Is she really a lady or are you being sly?

    If Dugin had tried to go for smaller groups like Gurdjieff that would have had some potential. Nyet on mass movement motion. Does Dugin drink a lot?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    The Azov Battalion leader and ideologue is Andrey Bilezky (not sure about the transliteration from Cyrillic). He is basically a National Socialist with an academic degree in history from the Kharkov University. But among the founding members of what would become Azov Battalion there were also more exotic fringe elements, such as the Misanthropic Division, M8L8TH fans (notice the double 8), some “Esoteric Nazis”, some wannabe O9A followers. And yes, the woman who was in charge of the psychosocial conditioning of the Azov guys was herself conditioned by Dugin when she studied under him in Moscow before the Maidan. We have discussed it once with AP a few years ago. She has now been thoroughly memory holed and it’s hard to find that information nowadays.

    Also, while writing about Dugin’s younger days, I forgot to mention Golovin, who was probably even more influential on young Dugin than Mamleev.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/43662363

    https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/34707/chapter-abstract/362555882?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

    That’s how the mind parasites spread and end up in some very distant and sometimes unrelated places…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  748. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Mikel
    @Bashibuzuk

    Welcome back Bashibuzuk. I envy your ability to leave this forum and disappear for months. Whenever I try to do that, I find that there are no other places on the internet to hold uncensored, long-form discussions on matters of my interest and I end up coming back here, where as even some of the protagonists confess, the discussions are desperately repetitive.

    Thank you for the kind words too. However, I couldn't disagree more with you. The outcome of the debate Dmitry is trying to have with the whole medical establishment is more than predictable. As a matter of fact, I was wondering if there is a cultural disconnect and I'm not reading him right. Could it be that you Russians are prone to categorical statements, not to be taken literally but just as a provocative way of debating? I think I've seen you and AnonfromTN making bold assertions too, though probably not as bold as Dmitry's.

    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don't exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?

    Hope you stick around for a while anyway. Just take it easy and don't make your wife reprimand you. We're all on the same boat, it may be annoying when she starts nagging in the middle of a heated debate but at the end of the day wives make us be more grounded to the earth.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Bashibuzuk

    Yeah, this forum has its own charm. It feels like an old pair of worn and comfortable sleepers. Our World is rushing at mad speed towards a future unknown, but here we can always read about the glorious past of the Habsburg Central Europe (wink AP) or some nerdy stuff about the Japanese-Chinese relationship of centuries past (wink Bromance and Blinky). And of course, I have contributed to this “out of time” ambiance through my lengthy past ramblings about the Corded Ware vs. Bellbeaker folks Bronze Age dynamics. 🙂

    Debating Dima is an interesting experience, I have never read him conceding that he might be wrong about anything. Of course he is quite astute and knowledgeable, but he is first and foremost stubborn.

    Russians have sometimes a weird sense of humour, making bold or outlandish statements is sometimes just part of a joke (at least in my case). Don’t know about Dima and Pr. Tennessee. On the other hand, I have always found your comments as very informative and grounded. Your humour is less into the absurd and more into the ironic.

    And yeah Mikel, we were right you and I when we wrote about Milei. He is indeed the first AnCap president just like we both wrote he might well become. I remember Dima contracting us at the time about Milei being a “classical liberal” or something among these lines… 🙂

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Bashibuzuk


    I remember Dima contracting us at the time about Milei being a “classical liberal” or something among these lines… 🙂
     
    Neoliberal. I'm pretty sure he still thinks Milei is a Thatcher type law and order neoliberal, even though the other day he declared on a popular Argentinian TV program that his end goal is a Rothbardian society with no state. But we better not open that can of worms. Dmitry may return at any moment and this absurd vo2max debate has already caused me more fatigue than the vo2max test itself did :-)
  749. @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    And yeah, Solovyov lived and worked for some time in US after the Soviet collapse. I would not be surprised in the slightest if he had the US citizenship and of course the Israeli one. The more passports, the merrier!

    https://russian.palinfo.com/Uploads/Models/Media/old/oldimages/05/solovev.jpg

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan. The Noviop are a funny bunch.

    🙂

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @LT1488, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Does being a Noviop equate to having a Jewish background?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @QCIC

    More often than not, but not necessarily. Karlin for example is just 1/16th Jewish according to his own words.

  750. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel


    As everybody knows, Russia has a long-standing reputation as one of the scientific powerhouses in the world but perhaps when Dmitry says that he can see things that hundreds of PhDs cannot see or that whole scientific fields where thousands of people conduct research daily don’t exist, it is not meant to be taken literally but only figuratively?
     
    Medicine is as much art as science. Russian medicine has differences. They invented modern performance enhancing drugs back in the 1960's. Look at some of those old Olympic competitions and seeing is believing. Jordan Peterson went to a Russian hospital to get de-addicted from benzos. They put him into a coma for 15 or 20 days. This treatment is not a legal procedure in the United States, Britain, France, or Germany. There is another addiction treatment they have where they induce a hypnotic trance and a hidden practitioner behind the patient conks him on the head with a hammer hard enough that he sees stars but not hard enough to make him unconscious. The instant before the hammer comes down the hypnotist tells him,

    "this is what your drinking [or whatever] is doing to you."

    Maybe Peterson tried that and it didn't work. If I was him I definitely would have tried that before the coma.

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC, @Mikel

    Maybe Peterson tried that and it didn’t work. If I was him I definitely would have tried that before the coma.

    I would had rather tried the hammer therapy than the induced coma too. I know that benzos are a bitch, a wonder drug for some conditions but a withdrawal syndrome comparable to hard drugs. However, couldn’t he find some elite rehab center somewhere in the West? He’s also on an insane beef-only + supplements diet. The supplements are for all the essential nutrients that beef cannot provide. So his Russian coma therapy choice was probably just another manifestation of his eccentricity.

  751. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikel

    Yeah, this forum has its own charm. It feels like an old pair of worn and comfortable sleepers. Our World is rushing at mad speed towards a future unknown, but here we can always read about the glorious past of the Habsburg Central Europe (wink AP) or some nerdy stuff about the Japanese-Chinese relationship of centuries past (wink Bromance and Blinky). And of course, I have contributed to this “out of time” ambiance through my lengthy past ramblings about the Corded Ware vs. Bellbeaker folks Bronze Age dynamics. 🙂

    Debating Dima is an interesting experience, I have never read him conceding that he might be wrong about anything. Of course he is quite astute and knowledgeable, but he is first and foremost stubborn.

    Russians have sometimes a weird sense of humour, making bold or outlandish statements is sometimes just part of a joke (at least in my case). Don’t know about Dima and Pr. Tennessee. On the other hand, I have always found your comments as very informative and grounded. Your humour is less into the absurd and more into the ironic.

    And yeah Mikel, we were right you and I when we wrote about Milei. He is indeed the first AnCap president just like we both wrote he might well become. I remember Dima contracting us at the time about Milei being a “classical liberal” or something among these lines… 🙂

    Replies: @Mikel

    I remember Dima contracting us at the time about Milei being a “classical liberal” or something among these lines… 🙂

    Neoliberal. I’m pretty sure he still thinks Milei is a Thatcher type law and order neoliberal, even though the other day he declared on a popular Argentinian TV program that his end goal is a Rothbardian society with no state. But we better not open that can of worms. Dmitry may return at any moment and this absurd vo2max debate has already caused me more fatigue than the vo2max test itself did 🙂

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
  752. @AP
    @Cesar1191

    An excellent and thoughtful comment. I agree with most of it but not all.


    If Ukraine can threaten Crimea, then Putin has an incentive to give up his ambitions and offer a good deal to Ukraine in order to avoid losing Crimea. If Russia collapses or has a regime change, then the new government or governments may have an incentive to give up the war in order to focus on domestic matters. Barring such scenarios, the incentive is probably for Russia to just keep going, at least until they hit some hard limit on resources and political capital, which we have no knowledge of when that might be, but it’s probably not 2025.
     
    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk. Russia will and should bluster that it has endless numbers of soldiers so the war is hopeless for Ukraine - but if that were really true, Russia would have done mass societal mobilisation last year. It hasn’t.

    Ukraine, too, does not have an infinite number of willing soldiers although their number is higher because they are defending their homelands.

    I’m guessing that both sides have enough in them to continue fighting into 2025, but both sides will get “fatigued” after that. They could keep going, they would have series of increasingly unpopular partial mobilisations to replenish numbers somewhat, but it would be much more difficult.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.

    You are correct that no peace for Ukrainians would be acceptable if there were not significant security. And Russia (barring a collapse or a change of leadership) would not walk away with nothing. A reasonable outcome would be EU and/or NATO for Ukraine (or if not the latter, some binding treaty with the US, UK, France, or other country like South Korea has with the USA)* and rebuilding funds, in exchange for territorial concessions that would reflect the front lines in 2025, and dropping of sanctions that would produce a strong spurt of real economic growth in Russia.

    * Or a very deadly Ukrainian deterrent such as nukes or large arsenal of long-range missiles

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Cesar1191

    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk. Russia will and should bluster that it has endless numbers of soldiers so the war is hopeless for Ukraine – but if that were really true, Russia would have done mass societal mobilisation last year. It hasn’t.

    As I said, hopefully the war ends soon, but there are reasons to be pessimistic about that prospect.

    The numbers are not infinite, but that does not mean that the war could not last many more years and perhaps even decades if the intensity of the fighting were to decrease.

    Obviously, we don’t know how many soldiers each side will be able to put into the field, because there are factors like future politics involved, and even the Russian and Ukrainian governments probably aren’t sure, but I think it’s useful to look at pools of potential soldiers.

    Let’s focus on Russia, because they are the invaders, and they can go home at any time. You say Russia is recruiting from among its poor. How many people in Russia are very poor people living in regions with very little economic opportunities? Let’s say it’s 40 million, but it could be 30 or 50 or 60, it doesn’t make any difference to the point. Of those 40 million, half are women, then there are elderly, children, and disabled people, and also just people who won’t go to war no matter what they have to do to escape, so you are left with perhaps 10 million men with the disposition and ability to fight. Now, let’s assume, that between dead, wounded and deserters, Russia loses 100 thousand soldiers per year, at such a rate, Russia could sustain this war for more 10 years just using its poor in its depressed regions. Okay, that’s too extreme, one could argue, Russia needs workers, and such targeted depopulation could create some backlash, all true, and yet, one can’t ignore the fact that Russia is not running out of a pool of potential soldiers any time soon, even if this pool would never include the children of the elite, the upper middle class and the citizens living in Moscow.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.

    That depends on the results, doesn’t it? If Trump is elected, and the US cuts aid to Ukraine in 2025, why would Russia negotiate then? Maybe Europe will be producing enough military equipment, and that will scare the Russians, but without that, if Western military aid gets worse, Ukraine’s ability to get a deal they can live with will only get worse.

    You are correct that no peace for Ukrainians would be acceptable if there were not significant security. And Russia (barring a collapse or a change of leadership) would not walk away with nothing. A reasonable outcome would be EU and/or NATO for Ukraine (or if not the latter, some binding treaty with the US, UK, France, or other country like South Korea has with the USA)* and rebuilding funds, in exchange for territorial concessions that would reflect the front lines in 2025, and dropping of sanctions that would produce a strong spurt of real economic growth in Russia.

    The concession of all present and future occupied territory to Russia would be brutal for the credibility of the Ukrainian government, but if Ukraine cannot take territory back, they would have to accept that, and receiving something like NATO in return would be very important. The question then is what would make Russia accept NATO in an agreement, perhaps the removal of sanctions as you say, but the Europeans and even the US if Trump is not president would be very resistant to this, for obvious reasons. All things considered, your deal is very plausible, my skepticism is that as early as 2025 is where everyone would be willing to sign something like that.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Cesar1191


    The numbers are not infinite, but that does not mean that the war could not last many more years and perhaps even decades if the intensity of the fighting were to decrease
     
    This is correct. If it becomes like 2016-2021 it could last decades.

    you are left with perhaps 10 million men with the disposition and ability to fight. Now, let’s assume, that between dead, wounded and deserters, Russia loses 100 thousand soldiers per year, at such a rate, Russia could sustain this war for more 10 years just using its poor in its depressed regions
     
    This assumes that the willingness to fight remains constant and that the people most willing to fight isn’t front-loaded within the population. In Russia as in Ukraine those most willing to fight have already volunteered. Of course, every year new ones willing to fight will come of age but this number will be smaller than early in the war.

    The latest casualties among Russians are mostly volunteers so it appears that the well of able convicts is running dry.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.


    That depends on the results, doesn’t it? If Trump is elected, and the US cuts aid to Ukraine in 2025, why would Russia negotiate then?
     
    In 2025 the American position will be clear. Likely possibilities:

    1. Four more years of Biden: don’t give Ukraine enough help to win decisively, but enough to bleed Russia heavily for a long time.

    2. Trump wins, does what he says to get a quick peace (if Ukraine refuses Trump’s peace deal, cut Ukraine off and if Russia refuses, escalate aid to Ukraine).

    3. Trump wins, and like his prior administration (which was far more anti-Russian than was weak the Obama administration) he gives more to Ukraine than Biden did in order to be a winner unlike weak Biden.

    4. Trump wins, and follows the Vivek, Vance, Greene and Carlson wing of Republican Party and abandons Ukraine.

    I think the war will end in 2025 if 1-3 happen, but I agree that if 4 occurs then the war will drag on for much longer. If USA steps out, Russia will have less incentive to seek peace, Ukraine won’t surrender, the Euros will still do enough to keep Ukraine from collapsing (and even if the army would collapse, there would be years of bloody resistance).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC, @Cesar1191

  753. @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    It looks like an exalted and familiar wind has reemerged from the East. That's a good thing, as I always enjoyed his conspiracy theories so much more than those of that Ukrainophobe kremlinstoogeA123 (so much more interesting and believable, at least most of them). :-)

    https://open.spotify.com/album/6A3DEe0fuhMHURqABE90Tf?si=RzGKzTsFT8Obvs7Rljg9BQ

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    It looks like an exalted and familiar wind has reemerged from the East.

    Ex orienti lux !

    Safe with most medications:

    🙂

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    Reminds me of this hauntingly beautiful song that served as a sort of leitmotif of my generation:

    https://open.spotify.com/track/6zeE5tKyr8Nu882DQhhSQI?si=0e7d5743a71a41f7

  754. @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    Does being a Noviop equate to having a Jewish background?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    More often than not, but not necessarily. Karlin for example is just 1/16th Jewish according to his own words.

  755. @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    And yeah, Solovyov lived and worked for some time in US after the Soviet collapse. I would not be surprised in the slightest if he had the US citizenship and of course the Israeli one. The more passports, the merrier!

    https://russian.palinfo.com/Uploads/Models/Media/old/oldimages/05/solovev.jpg

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan. The Noviop are a funny bunch.

    🙂

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @LT1488, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    Anglin might find that interesting.

    He does a lot of posts on Jews in US government but never Russia.

    I’m sure he will be doing a post on Putin’s Jews any day now.

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan.

    I’ve seen a couple episodes of the Dr. No and Friends.

    He seemed most upset by losing his Italian villa. He also doesn’t seem to see the irony of casually talking about nuking the West and then calling them animals and monsters.

    Ben Shapiro is much better at his job. Dr. No in the US would be a low level TV news producer. He would not be able to hack it on Fox. He reminds me of Candace Owens in that he goes into crazyland when off script and doesn’t seem to realize it. There also wouldn’t be a State TV to help hide his male model son in London.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    Yeah, Anglin is somewhat funny as well but in a tragic way, that is that it’s better laughing about it than crying . He is a mutant byproduct of the “radioactive decay” of the mid 90ies American liberal middle class families. That toxic milieu corroded his teenage years and that experience ended up making him an enemy of the ZOG - dominated America.

    Of course it is well known that the enemy of one’s enemies should be one’s friend, that is why Anglin is preferring to pretend ignorance about the ZOG - dominated RusFed. OTOH, in a country of blind the one eyed are those who see most clearly. Despite being a troll, Anglin is right about a lot of things.

    Actually, someone should write a book about Anglin, he is a precursor to the generation of cynical memeticists who are growing among today’s teens. He was one among those who opened the door to their historical nihilism, which we still will have to experience fully as we age. I am certain it’ll be an interesting (albeit not very pleasant) experience…

    Replies: @John Johnson

  756. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    What do they say about HIV?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    What do they say about HIV?

    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

    HIV is a lentivirus. Unlike many mammalian viruses, it has relatively little of the cytoplasm of the cell it buds off:
    https://cdn.rcsb.org/pdb101/learn/resources/structural-biology-of-hiv/index.html

    In science gutted replication-deficient lentivirus is used for delivery of DNA to cells to express desired proteins. It takes longer chunks of DNA (so you can use large cell type-specific promoters and express larger proteins) than smaller adeno-associated viruses (AAVs), although less than adenoviruses, both of which in replication-deficient form are also used for gene delivery. The beauty of lentivirus is that it yields protein expression in a few days, whereas AAVs yield max expression after two weeks. Lentiviruses yield reasonably low expression levels (close to normal levels of endogenous proteins), whereas AAV-driven expression tends to be crazy high.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

    You don't need to be either to understand the connection.

    HIV destroys your immune system and AIDS is the resulting compromised state. Your immune system can no longer be relied on to fight off viruses or bacteria. The common cold can kill you.

    AIDS is defined by a T cell count. Once your T cells go below 200 you have AIDs.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN


    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

     

    Do you have no interest in the argument that HIV is not related to AIDS at all?

    I get the impression from the last two posts and comment threads that Ron Unz is moderating his temperament regarding the anti vaxer morons.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  757. Boy Putin sure attracts some impressive talent

    Has he ever won global hypocrite of the year? Definitely a contender.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Yes, it is a strange world we live in. I think Dubai is very weird.

    It has been a while since you gave us an update on VVP's giant ugly secret mansion. I wonder if that is where Tucker's space aliens go to hang out?

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    Remember that you have 10 times more of those types close to the US circles of political, economic and information power. That is why your country is also slowly but surely going towards a major unpleasantness. RusFed just started on that way much earlier. But everything that Shafarevich has written in his Russophobia book applies as much to today’s US as it does to Sovok and RusFed. Same causes lead to same consequences…

  758. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    What do they say about HIV?
     
    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

    HIV is a lentivirus. Unlike many mammalian viruses, it has relatively little of the cytoplasm of the cell it buds off:
    https://cdn.rcsb.org/pdb101/learn/resources/structural-biology-of-hiv/index.html

    In science gutted replication-deficient lentivirus is used for delivery of DNA to cells to express desired proteins. It takes longer chunks of DNA (so you can use large cell type-specific promoters and express larger proteins) than smaller adeno-associated viruses (AAVs), although less than adenoviruses, both of which in replication-deficient form are also used for gene delivery. The beauty of lentivirus is that it yields protein expression in a few days, whereas AAVs yield max expression after two weeks. Lentiviruses yield reasonably low expression levels (close to normal levels of endogenous proteins), whereas AAV-driven expression tends to be crazy high.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

    You don’t need to be either to understand the connection.

    HIV destroys your immune system and AIDS is the resulting compromised state. Your immune system can no longer be relied on to fight off viruses or bacteria. The common cold can kill you.

    AIDS is defined by a T cell count. Once your T cells go below 200 you have AIDs.

  759. @John Johnson
    Boy Putin sure attracts some impressive talent

    https://youtu.be/CoXPUHOqWdE?si=Qt9TzeLEAQUlPTKn

    Has he ever won global hypocrite of the year? Definitely a contender.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Bashibuzuk

    Yes, it is a strange world we live in. I think Dubai is very weird.

    It has been a while since you gave us an update on VVP’s giant ugly secret mansion. I wonder if that is where Tucker’s space aliens go to hang out?

  760. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    What do they say about HIV?
     
    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

    HIV is a lentivirus. Unlike many mammalian viruses, it has relatively little of the cytoplasm of the cell it buds off:
    https://cdn.rcsb.org/pdb101/learn/resources/structural-biology-of-hiv/index.html

    In science gutted replication-deficient lentivirus is used for delivery of DNA to cells to express desired proteins. It takes longer chunks of DNA (so you can use large cell type-specific promoters and express larger proteins) than smaller adeno-associated viruses (AAVs), although less than adenoviruses, both of which in replication-deficient form are also used for gene delivery. The beauty of lentivirus is that it yields protein expression in a few days, whereas AAVs yield max expression after two weeks. Lentiviruses yield reasonably low expression levels (close to normal levels of endogenous proteins), whereas AAV-driven expression tends to be crazy high.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

    Do you have no interest in the argument that HIV is not related to AIDS at all?

    I get the impression from the last two posts and comment threads that Ron Unz is moderating his temperament regarding the anti vaxer morons.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Do you have no interest in the argument that HIV is not related to AIDS at all?
     
    Not really. Arguments don’t uncover reality, experiments do.

    Several things are clear. One, AIDS is caused by an infectious sexually transmitted agent, as the incidence of AIDS clearly correlates with promiscuity, like syphilis or gonorrhea. Two, whatever causes AIDS hits immune system, depriving patients of immune cells, so it is likely an intracellular parasite; i.e., most likely a virus, although there are non-viral intracellular parasites, such as mycoplasma and some other bacteria. Three, ever since blood for transfusion started to be tested, the only way you can get AIDS is by unprotected sex with an infected partner. So, my interest in AIDS is about the same as in syphilis, very low.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  761. Bashibuzuk says:
    @John Johnson
    @Bashibuzuk

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    Anglin might find that interesting.

    He does a lot of posts on Jews in US government but never Russia.

    I'm sure he will be doing a post on Putin's Jews any day now.

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan.

    I've seen a couple episodes of the Dr. No and Friends.

    He seemed most upset by losing his Italian villa. He also doesn't seem to see the irony of casually talking about nuking the West and then calling them animals and monsters.

    Ben Shapiro is much better at his job. Dr. No in the US would be a low level TV news producer. He would not be able to hack it on Fox. He reminds me of Candace Owens in that he goes into crazyland when off script and doesn't seem to realize it. There also wouldn't be a State TV to help hide his male model son in London.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Yeah, Anglin is somewhat funny as well but in a tragic way, that is that it’s better laughing about it than crying . He is a mutant byproduct of the “radioactive decay” of the mid 90ies American liberal middle class families. That toxic milieu corroded his teenage years and that experience ended up making him an enemy of the ZOG – dominated America.

    Of course it is well known that the enemy of one’s enemies should be one’s friend, that is why Anglin is preferring to pretend ignorance about the ZOG – dominated RusFed. OTOH, in a country of blind the one eyed are those who see most clearly. Despite being a troll, Anglin is right about a lot of things.

    Actually, someone should write a book about Anglin, he is a precursor to the generation of cynical memeticists who are growing among today’s teens. He was one among those who opened the door to their historical nihilism, which we still will have to experience fully as we age. I am certain it’ll be an interesting (albeit not very pleasant) experience…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Bashibuzuk

    He is a mutant byproduct of the “radioactive decay” of the mid 90ies American liberal middle class families.

    Yea and it sounds like he had a real d-bag dad that didn't have good advice for him. One of those "just pray on it son" types that has nothing real to add. I base that on an article I read about him a long time ago.

    Despite being a troll, Anglin is right about a lot of things.

    He is wrong most of the time and misses some of the most obvious patterns.

    He not only walked right into the "magic negro" trap but did it with a mentally unstable entertainer.

    Anglin is really just a sad character. He was clearly burned or rejected by White women and hasn't gotten over it. He describes himself as a White nationalist and yet openly hates White women. But he is also supposedly pro Christian family....? Which race would that be if you hate White women?

    He left the US after sending his minions to troll some small town Jew over a real estate deal that didn't involve him.

    In reality he isn't pro-White in the least. He is just a misanthrope that hates Jews. In fact he said he hopes the Chinese dominate the world. I really think he would be happy in a Chinese cage as long as the Jews were next to him.

    I really hate the guy since he pretends to represent both Whites and Christians. I don't think he understands Christianity. He is most likely a partial sociopath that can only mimic the actions and beliefs. I am White and I don't remember an election where we chose a bitter Jew hater who despises White women to represent us.

    Actually, someone should write a book about Anglin, he is a precursor to the generation of cynical memeticists who are growing among today’s teens. He was one among those who opened the door to their historical nihilism, which we still will have to experience fully as we age.

    That would be a terrible and depressing book. You could indeed title it a door to nihilism.

    Anglin is what happens when a smart White man gets dealt a low card and never finds his way. His White nationalist gig never would have happened if he simply met a White woman that he likes and had kids. Same for Fuentes. They are two White guys that despise US society for not giving them what they expected. I understand being frustrated with the lies of modern society but they really don't have a plan other than hate Jews and latch on to a mass murdering dwarf in Russia. I'll give him a break on his blog when he stops claiming to represent Whites. His attachment to Putin makes zero sense and I will continue to call out his total bullshit double standard on not talking about Putin's connections to Israel.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  762. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN


    I am not a virologist or a physician, so I don’t know how HIV relates to AIDs.

     

    Do you have no interest in the argument that HIV is not related to AIDS at all?

    I get the impression from the last two posts and comment threads that Ron Unz is moderating his temperament regarding the anti vaxer morons.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Do you have no interest in the argument that HIV is not related to AIDS at all?

    Not really. Arguments don’t uncover reality, experiments do.

    Several things are clear. One, AIDS is caused by an infectious sexually transmitted agent, as the incidence of AIDS clearly correlates with promiscuity, like syphilis or gonorrhea. Two, whatever causes AIDS hits immune system, depriving patients of immune cells, so it is likely an intracellular parasite; i.e., most likely a virus, although there are non-viral intracellular parasites, such as mycoplasma and some other bacteria. Three, ever since blood for transfusion started to be tested, the only way you can get AIDS is by unprotected sex with an infected partner. So, my interest in AIDS is about the same as in syphilis, very low.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity? They all have free will and powers of reason. There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

  763. Bashibuzuk says:
    @John Johnson
    Boy Putin sure attracts some impressive talent

    https://youtu.be/CoXPUHOqWdE?si=Qt9TzeLEAQUlPTKn

    Has he ever won global hypocrite of the year? Definitely a contender.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Bashibuzuk

    Remember that you have 10 times more of those types close to the US circles of political, economic and information power. That is why your country is also slowly but surely going towards a major unpleasantness. RusFed just started on that way much earlier. But everything that Shafarevich has written in his Russophobia book applies as much to today’s US as it does to Sovok and RusFed. Same causes lead to same consequences…

  764. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk


    For those who followed his career during the few decades that he was of any public notoriety, it is self evident that no one in the RusFedian elites takes Dugin and his followers seriously.
     
    1. Heidegger; 2. Crowley.

    How can anybody take this man seriously? This stuff is for entertainment.

    Join my movement and Be Who Thou Wilt Towards Death!

    Is the Azov Battalion ideologue's ideology available in English translation? Is she really a lady or are you being sly?

    If Dugin had tried to go for smaller groups like Gurdjieff that would have had some potential. Nyet on mass movement motion. Does Dugin drink a lot?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    The Azov Battalion leader and ideologue is Andrey Bilezky (not sure about the transliteration from Cyrillic). He is basically a National Socialist with an academic degree in history from the Kharkov University. But among the founding members of what would become Azov Battalion there were also more exotic fringe elements, such as the Misanthropic Division, M8L8TH fans (notice the double 8), some “Esoteric Nazis”, some wannabe O9A followers. And yes, the woman who was in charge of the psychosocial conditioning of the Azov guys was herself conditioned by Dugin when she studied under him in Moscow before the Maidan. We have discussed it once with AP a few years ago. She has now been thoroughly memory holed and it’s hard to find that information nowadays.

    Also, while writing about Dugin’s younger days, I forgot to mention Golovin, who was probably even more influential on young Dugin than Mamleev.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/43662363

    https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/34707/chapter-abstract/362555882?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

    That’s how the mind parasites spread and end up in some very distant and sometimes unrelated places…

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    I don't have access to those links.

    I found this:

    https://www.academia.edu/40386287/Mysteries_of_Eurasia_The_Esoteric_Sources_of_Alexander_Dugin_and_the_Yuzhinsky_Circle

    It's a masters thesis for Wouter Hannegraf U. Amsterdam who is elite in that circle. Also Hannegraf is a dogmatic atheist materialist and his interest in such things is baffling. What is the name of the woman who is Azovs' cheerleader?

    Replies: @AP

  765. This Chinese dog has learned to ride on the back of a bike:

    [MORE]

  766. @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    And yeah, Solovyov lived and worked for some time in US after the Soviet collapse. I would not be surprised in the slightest if he had the US citizenship and of course the Israeli one. The more passports, the merrier!

    https://russian.palinfo.com/Uploads/Models/Media/old/oldimages/05/solovev.jpg

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan. The Noviop are a funny bunch.

    🙂

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @LT1488, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    When will they interview Galkovsky?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @LT1488

    Ain’t ever happening. Not in the least because ДЕГ won’t give them an interview.

    And while we’re at it, камрад I approve of your moniker .

    https://patch.com/img/cdn/users/271628/2015/07/raw/201507559b597b5e341.jpg

    Мы идём широкими полями по просторам родины своей…

    🫡

  767. @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    Yeah, Anglin is somewhat funny as well but in a tragic way, that is that it’s better laughing about it than crying . He is a mutant byproduct of the “radioactive decay” of the mid 90ies American liberal middle class families. That toxic milieu corroded his teenage years and that experience ended up making him an enemy of the ZOG - dominated America.

    Of course it is well known that the enemy of one’s enemies should be one’s friend, that is why Anglin is preferring to pretend ignorance about the ZOG - dominated RusFed. OTOH, in a country of blind the one eyed are those who see most clearly. Despite being a troll, Anglin is right about a lot of things.

    Actually, someone should write a book about Anglin, he is a precursor to the generation of cynical memeticists who are growing among today’s teens. He was one among those who opened the door to their historical nihilism, which we still will have to experience fully as we age. I am certain it’ll be an interesting (albeit not very pleasant) experience…

    Replies: @John Johnson

    He is a mutant byproduct of the “radioactive decay” of the mid 90ies American liberal middle class families.

    Yea and it sounds like he had a real d-bag dad that didn’t have good advice for him. One of those “just pray on it son” types that has nothing real to add. I base that on an article I read about him a long time ago.

    Despite being a troll, Anglin is right about a lot of things.

    He is wrong most of the time and misses some of the most obvious patterns.

    He not only walked right into the “magic negro” trap but did it with a mentally unstable entertainer.

    Anglin is really just a sad character. He was clearly burned or rejected by White women and hasn’t gotten over it. He describes himself as a White nationalist and yet openly hates White women. But he is also supposedly pro Christian family….? Which race would that be if you hate White women?

    He left the US after sending his minions to troll some small town Jew over a real estate deal that didn’t involve him.

    In reality he isn’t pro-White in the least. He is just a misanthrope that hates Jews. In fact he said he hopes the Chinese dominate the world. I really think he would be happy in a Chinese cage as long as the Jews were next to him.

    I really hate the guy since he pretends to represent both Whites and Christians. I don’t think he understands Christianity. He is most likely a partial sociopath that can only mimic the actions and beliefs. I am White and I don’t remember an election where we chose a bitter Jew hater who despises White women to represent us.

    Actually, someone should write a book about Anglin, he is a precursor to the generation of cynical memeticists who are growing among today’s teens. He was one among those who opened the door to their historical nihilism, which we still will have to experience fully as we age.

    That would be a terrible and depressing book. You could indeed title it a door to nihilism.

    Anglin is what happens when a smart White man gets dealt a low card and never finds his way. His White nationalist gig never would have happened if he simply met a White woman that he likes and had kids. Same for Fuentes. They are two White guys that despise US society for not giving them what they expected. I understand being frustrated with the lies of modern society but they really don’t have a plan other than hate Jews and latch on to a mass murdering dwarf in Russia. I’ll give him a break on his blog when he stops claiming to represent Whites. His attachment to Putin makes zero sense and I will continue to call out his total bullshit double standard on not talking about Putin’s connections to Israel.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.

    The attempts to shoe horn in the 613 rules for Jews into a Christian context so transparently clueless that…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpWGz_tOvc

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

  768. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Do you have no interest in the argument that HIV is not related to AIDS at all?
     
    Not really. Arguments don’t uncover reality, experiments do.

    Several things are clear. One, AIDS is caused by an infectious sexually transmitted agent, as the incidence of AIDS clearly correlates with promiscuity, like syphilis or gonorrhea. Two, whatever causes AIDS hits immune system, depriving patients of immune cells, so it is likely an intracellular parasite; i.e., most likely a virus, although there are non-viral intracellular parasites, such as mycoplasma and some other bacteria. Three, ever since blood for transfusion started to be tested, the only way you can get AIDS is by unprotected sex with an infected partner. So, my interest in AIDS is about the same as in syphilis, very low.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity? They all have free will and powers of reason. There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity? They all have free will and powers of reason. There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.

    It is scientifically factual and has been proven both in labs and in the field.

    Cases of AIDs deaths massively dropped after antiretrovirals were widely available

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/AIDS_Deaths-US_1987-1997.png/300px-AIDS_Deaths-US_1987-1997.png

    Magic Johnson didn't keep living because of herbal tea.

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity?
     
    Very few things in biology and medicine are proven as unambiguously as the law of gravity. I study the mechanisms cell signaling, so my colleagues are neither virologists nor physicians. Most scientists who have no direct interest in this tend to stay away: the issue of AIDS is politicized to the same extent as covid psyop, covid ”vaccine” hoax, human-caused global warming myth, etc. Separating grain from chaff in these areas would be a full-time occupation. Most scientists have better things to do with their time and effort. Simple rule in real sciences: if there are schools of thought, it means that we don’t know.

    They all have free will and powers of reason.
     
    Free will is an abstract construct. In real life it is severely curbed by the circumstances. E.g., basic science in biology is quite expensive. It is funded by NIH. If you publicly say something that goes against officially approved lies, you are going to be defunded. Result: useful and exciting work you have been doing would be discontinued regardless how successful it is. That’s where powers of reason come into it: a reasonable person won’t endanger his/her life work for the sake of something that does not concern him/her directly.

    Every aspect of American society is designed to defend approved lies and suppress truth. You can see this right now: the footage of students on many US campuses being taught lessons in democracy and freedom of speech by means of police manhandling, beating, incarceration, and pepper spray is all over the internet. The next level of American democracy is shooting (remember Kent State massacre in 1970?). We are not there yet, but there is no crime powers-that-be won’t stoop to: rich trough of public money they steal from is too tempting.

    There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.
     
    There probably is. These people keep mum for reasons explained above.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

  769. @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    The Azov Battalion leader and ideologue is Andrey Bilezky (not sure about the transliteration from Cyrillic). He is basically a National Socialist with an academic degree in history from the Kharkov University. But among the founding members of what would become Azov Battalion there were also more exotic fringe elements, such as the Misanthropic Division, M8L8TH fans (notice the double 8), some “Esoteric Nazis”, some wannabe O9A followers. And yes, the woman who was in charge of the psychosocial conditioning of the Azov guys was herself conditioned by Dugin when she studied under him in Moscow before the Maidan. We have discussed it once with AP a few years ago. She has now been thoroughly memory holed and it’s hard to find that information nowadays.

    Also, while writing about Dugin’s younger days, I forgot to mention Golovin, who was probably even more influential on young Dugin than Mamleev.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/43662363

    https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/34707/chapter-abstract/362555882?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

    That’s how the mind parasites spread and end up in some very distant and sometimes unrelated places…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I don’t have access to those links.

    I found this:

    https://www.academia.edu/40386287/Mysteries_of_Eurasia_The_Esoteric_Sources_of_Alexander_Dugin_and_the_Yuzhinsky_Circle

    It’s a masters thesis for Wouter Hannegraf U. Amsterdam who is elite in that circle. Also Hannegraf is a dogmatic atheist materialist and his interest in such things is baffling. What is the name of the woman who is Azovs’ cheerleader?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Here is a lot about the witch lady:

    https://www.illiberalism.org/olena-semenyaka-the-first-lady-of-ukrainian-nationalism/

    https://images.app.goo.gl/RT6vAvruG8uKNMYp8

    Azov founder and leader Andriy Biletsky has an interesting background. From wiki:

    “ Andriy Biletsky was born in 1979 in Kharkiv, Soviet Union. Biletsky's father Yevheniy Mykhailovych Biletsky hailed from an old Cossack family that founded the village of Krasnopavlivka in Kharkiv Oblast, while Biletsky's mother Olena Anatoliyivna Biletsky (née Lukashevych) descended from a noble family from Zhytomyr region, to which belong the Decembrist Vasiliy Lukashevich (Vasyl Lukashevych) who founded the "Little-Russian Secret Society"

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard

  770. @sudden death
    Alexander Dugin was recently appointed as a head of a state scientific humanitarian institute in RF, btw:

    Alexander Dugin, leader of the Eurasia party. I'm for the blacks. White civilization - its cultural values, the false, inhumane model of the world it built - has not justified itself. Everything is heading towards the beginning of white pogroms on a planetary scale. Russia is saved only by the fact that we are not purely white. Predatory transnational corporations, oppression and suppression of everyone else, MTV, blue and pink - these are the fruits of white civilization that need to be gotten rid of. That's why I'm for red, yellow, green, black - just not white. I stand with the people of Zimbabwe with all my heart.
     

    https://archive.is/UyPU#selection-2273.0-2283.496

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    That’s why I’m for red, yellow, green, black – just not white.

    It is all another late revolt against Aryan invasions as we can see from its hatred of “white”, or specifically white men, as those doing the replacement (men were replaced, but women not so much, which is a bit strange somehow and testifies either to small number of Aryan women and/or the greater fecundity of non-Aryan ones). The Labrys of the Great Goddess will rule again! And remember that in one interpretation, the two-headed eagle, orginally raised by Byzantine aristocrats of Paleologos family (another oligarchs), is just the masked labrys. Dugin is full in, as the idea must have appeared to him that his daughter death was a human sacrifice; anyway her funeral was in the most phallic building of Moscow which says all.

    The more interesting question is how these ideas appear again and again correctly aiming at their opponents, with the memory of Aryan invasion being lost in populations long time ago.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Guess it's time to repeat the short graphic essence of RF state paid "conservative" thought;)

    https://i.imgur.com/Pdo64yP.jpeg

    , @Coconuts
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Dugin is full in...
     
    It's Dugin proving that he is white. These kinds of views were popular in the progressive counter-culture in the rest of Europe during the 1960s, into the 80s and 90s with post-modernism/post-colonialism. At the moment the people in the UK leading on the idea of a global majority non-white majority against the white minority are white members of the elite. Imo these sort of ideas only gain traction in European culture because they are endorsed by current white elites.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  771. @Another Polish Perspective
    @sudden death


    That’s why I’m for red, yellow, green, black – just not white.
     
    It is all another late revolt against Aryan invasions as we can see from its hatred of "white", or specifically white men, as those doing the replacement (men were replaced, but women not so much, which is a bit strange somehow and testifies either to small number of Aryan women and/or the greater fecundity of non-Aryan ones). The Labrys of the Great Goddess will rule again! And remember that in one interpretation, the two-headed eagle, orginally raised by Byzantine aristocrats of Paleologos family (another oligarchs), is just the masked labrys. Dugin is full in, as the idea must have appeared to him that his daughter death was a human sacrifice; anyway her funeral was in the most phallic building of Moscow which says all.

    The more interesting question is how these ideas appear again and again correctly aiming at their opponents, with the memory of Aryan invasion being lost in populations long time ago.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Coconuts

    Guess it’s time to repeat the short graphic essence of RF state paid “conservative” thought;)

  772. AP says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    I don't have access to those links.

    I found this:

    https://www.academia.edu/40386287/Mysteries_of_Eurasia_The_Esoteric_Sources_of_Alexander_Dugin_and_the_Yuzhinsky_Circle

    It's a masters thesis for Wouter Hannegraf U. Amsterdam who is elite in that circle. Also Hannegraf is a dogmatic atheist materialist and his interest in such things is baffling. What is the name of the woman who is Azovs' cheerleader?

    Replies: @AP

    Here is a lot about the witch lady:

    https://www.illiberalism.org/olena-semenyaka-the-first-lady-of-ukrainian-nationalism/

    https://images.app.goo.gl/RT6vAvruG8uKNMYp8

    Azov founder and leader Andriy Biletsky has an interesting background. From wiki:

    “ Andriy Biletsky was born in 1979 in Kharkiv, Soviet Union. Biletsky’s father Yevheniy Mykhailovych Biletsky hailed from an old Cossack family that founded the village of Krasnopavlivka in Kharkiv Oblast, while Biletsky’s mother Olena Anatoliyivna Biletsky (née Lukashevych) descended from a noble family from Zhytomyr region, to which belong the Decembrist Vasiliy Lukashevich (Vasyl Lukashevych) who founded the “Little-Russian Secret Society”

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AP

    It is funny how these figureheads always have some noticeable genealogy (Dugin - son of the Old Believer in KGB). I do wonder whether it is part of their legitimacy. Like there is some "chain of transmission", like in secret societies.

    By chance, I met an Israeli philosopher working on Wittgenstein with the same name:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat_Biletzki

    Her book, "Overinterpreting Wittgenstein" was actually pretty good and tackling important problem.
    Wittgenstein - another guy with genealogy, hm.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AP

    I had already seen that first link way back in 2020 or whenever it was when she was discussed here. She was already on the decline of her influence back then. One of the other commenters said she had difficulty pacing her appetite for liquor, drugs, and cigarettes and she was looking like hell which is why nobody was posting photos of her at glamorous parties any more. And somebody else chimed in that Slavic women age worse than Italian women as general rule. I remember thinking that those were odd connections to make. Like Gonzo Lira and Victoria Nuland used to be really hot odd.

    Maybe she got a rich boyfriend and has been hanging out at a health spa and she'll make a comeback. Photo ops with Dugin together with Azov making polite chitchat would be like the most bizarre thing to ever see on the internet.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  773. @AP
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Here is a lot about the witch lady:

    https://www.illiberalism.org/olena-semenyaka-the-first-lady-of-ukrainian-nationalism/

    https://images.app.goo.gl/RT6vAvruG8uKNMYp8

    Azov founder and leader Andriy Biletsky has an interesting background. From wiki:

    “ Andriy Biletsky was born in 1979 in Kharkiv, Soviet Union. Biletsky's father Yevheniy Mykhailovych Biletsky hailed from an old Cossack family that founded the village of Krasnopavlivka in Kharkiv Oblast, while Biletsky's mother Olena Anatoliyivna Biletsky (née Lukashevych) descended from a noble family from Zhytomyr region, to which belong the Decembrist Vasiliy Lukashevich (Vasyl Lukashevych) who founded the "Little-Russian Secret Society"

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard

    It is funny how these figureheads always have some noticeable genealogy (Dugin – son of the Old Believer in KGB). I do wonder whether it is part of their legitimacy. Like there is some “chain of transmission”, like in secret societies.

    By chance, I met an Israeli philosopher working on Wittgenstein with the same name:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat_Biletzki

    Her book, “Overinterpreting Wittgenstein” was actually pretty good and tackling important problem.
    Wittgenstein – another guy with genealogy, hm.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Another Polish Perspective


    It is funny how these figureheads always have some noticeable genealogy (Dugin – son of the Old Believer in KGB). I do wonder whether it is part of their legitimacy. Like there is some “chain of transmission”, like in secret societies.
     
    Now, our eyes dart in every direction. The site of our Mother’s dwelling is in upheaval—destroyed. O, let us bang our heads against the walls of Her house and Her dwelling. Who will comfort us? Who will speak to our hearts and protect us before the King? When we used to sin before our Father and the lash would shoot up to strike us, She would stand in front of us and receive the flogging from the King, protecting us. (Zohar ḥadash 91a)i



    https://www.associationforjewishstudies.org/publications-research/ajs-perspectives/the-body-issue/the-body-of-the-shekhinah-at-the-threshold-of-domestic-violence

    https://www.crystalinks.com/shekinah.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Frank

    https://levantine-journal.org/being-frank-discovering-my-frankist-roots/
  774. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Another Polish Perspective
    @AP

    It is funny how these figureheads always have some noticeable genealogy (Dugin - son of the Old Believer in KGB). I do wonder whether it is part of their legitimacy. Like there is some "chain of transmission", like in secret societies.

    By chance, I met an Israeli philosopher working on Wittgenstein with the same name:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat_Biletzki

    Her book, "Overinterpreting Wittgenstein" was actually pretty good and tackling important problem.
    Wittgenstein - another guy with genealogy, hm.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    It is funny how these figureheads always have some noticeable genealogy (Dugin – son of the Old Believer in KGB). I do wonder whether it is part of their legitimacy. Like there is some “chain of transmission”, like in secret societies.

    Now, our eyes dart in every direction. The site of our Mother’s dwelling is in upheaval—destroyed. O, let us bang our heads against the walls of Her house and Her dwelling. Who will comfort us? Who will speak to our hearts and protect us before the King? When we used to sin before our Father and the lash would shoot up to strike us, She would stand in front of us and receive the flogging from the King, protecting us. (Zohar ḥadash 91a)i

  775. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity? They all have free will and powers of reason. There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity? They all have free will and powers of reason. There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.

    It is scientifically factual and has been proven both in labs and in the field.

    Cases of AIDs deaths massively dropped after antiretrovirals were widely available

    Magic Johnson didn’t keep living because of herbal tea.

  776. OMG watch ATACMs clusters go to work:

  777. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack


    It looks like an exalted and familiar wind has reemerged from the East.
     
    Ex orienti lux !

    Safe with most medications:

    https://youtu.be/ZdqTqFOEP58?feature=shared

    🙂

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Reminds me of this hauntingly beautiful song that served as a sort of leitmotif of my generation:

  778. Leaving the prediction for the check-up in near future:

    Putin’s inauguration is coming soon. A new Government will soon be formed. There is a battle between clans for positions, powers and financial flows. Dyumin (the man of Zolotov and the Rublevka oligarchs of Jewish nationality behind him) is promised the chair of the Minister of Defense, Mironov (the same people behind Dyumin and Kurenkov) – the chair of the Minister of Internal Affairs, Dmitry Shalkov – either the chair of the Director of the FSB, or the head of the Investigative Committee of Russia and etc. Mishustin, in his opinion, is guaranteed the position of Chairman of the Government with a larger number of different ministerial (and not only) portfolios for members of his team than now.

    https://telegra.ph/Inauguraciya-Vladimira-Putina-novyj-sostav-Pravitelstva-i-zagranichnye-aktivy-Mihaila-Mishustina-arest-Timura-Ivanova-i-korrupci-05-01-3

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @sudden death

    How similar is the interlocking web of power at the top of the contemporary Russia system to that in the Communist and Czarist systems?

    Do many families have lineage through all three eras as often seen in other countries or is it a new set of power brokers/seekers for each era?

    Replies: @AP

  779. AP says:
    @Cesar1191
    @AP


    So far, Russia has relied on poor marginal people willing to risk their lives for $2000 or whatever per month, convicts, etc. This number is not infinite and Russia is very reluctant to force kids from places that matter to die in Ukrainian fields for the sake of Kramatorsk. Russia will and should bluster that it has endless numbers of soldiers so the war is hopeless for Ukraine – but if that were really true, Russia would have done mass societal mobilisation last year. It hasn’t.

     

    As I said, hopefully the war ends soon, but there are reasons to be pessimistic about that prospect.

    The numbers are not infinite, but that does not mean that the war could not last many more years and perhaps even decades if the intensity of the fighting were to decrease.

    Obviously, we don't know how many soldiers each side will be able to put into the field, because there are factors like future politics involved, and even the Russian and Ukrainian governments probably aren't sure, but I think it's useful to look at pools of potential soldiers.

    Let's focus on Russia, because they are the invaders, and they can go home at any time. You say Russia is recruiting from among its poor. How many people in Russia are very poor people living in regions with very little economic opportunities? Let's say it's 40 million, but it could be 30 or 50 or 60, it doesn't make any difference to the point. Of those 40 million, half are women, then there are elderly, children, and disabled people, and also just people who won't go to war no matter what they have to do to escape, so you are left with perhaps 10 million men with the disposition and ability to fight. Now, let's assume, that between dead, wounded and deserters, Russia loses 100 thousand soldiers per year, at such a rate, Russia could sustain this war for more 10 years just using its poor in its depressed regions. Okay, that's too extreme, one could argue, Russia needs workers, and such targeted depopulation could create some backlash, all true, and yet, one can't ignore the fact that Russia is not running out of a pool of potential soldiers any time soon, even if this pool would never include the children of the elite, the upper middle class and the citizens living in Moscow.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.
     
    That depends on the results, doesn't it? If Trump is elected, and the US cuts aid to Ukraine in 2025, why would Russia negotiate then? Maybe Europe will be producing enough military equipment, and that will scare the Russians, but without that, if Western military aid gets worse, Ukraine's ability to get a deal they can live with will only get worse.

    You are correct that no peace for Ukrainians would be acceptable if there were not significant security. And Russia (barring a collapse or a change of leadership) would not walk away with nothing. A reasonable outcome would be EU and/or NATO for Ukraine (or if not the latter, some binding treaty with the US, UK, France, or other country like South Korea has with the USA)* and rebuilding funds, in exchange for territorial concessions that would reflect the front lines in 2025, and dropping of sanctions that would produce a strong spurt of real economic growth in Russia.

     

    The concession of all present and future occupied territory to Russia would be brutal for the credibility of the Ukrainian government, but if Ukraine cannot take territory back, they would have to accept that, and receiving something like NATO in return would be very important. The question then is what would make Russia accept NATO in an agreement, perhaps the removal of sanctions as you say, but the Europeans and even the US if Trump is not president would be very resistant to this, for obvious reasons. All things considered, your deal is very plausible, my skepticism is that as early as 2025 is where everyone would be willing to sign something like that.

    Replies: @AP

    The numbers are not infinite, but that does not mean that the war could not last many more years and perhaps even decades if the intensity of the fighting were to decrease

    This is correct. If it becomes like 2016-2021 it could last decades.

    you are left with perhaps 10 million men with the disposition and ability to fight. Now, let’s assume, that between dead, wounded and deserters, Russia loses 100 thousand soldiers per year, at such a rate, Russia could sustain this war for more 10 years just using its poor in its depressed regions

    This assumes that the willingness to fight remains constant and that the people most willing to fight isn’t front-loaded within the population. In Russia as in Ukraine those most willing to fight have already volunteered. Of course, every year new ones willing to fight will come of age but this number will be smaller than early in the war.

    The latest casualties among Russians are mostly volunteers so it appears that the well of able convicts is running dry.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.

    That depends on the results, doesn’t it? If Trump is elected, and the US cuts aid to Ukraine in 2025, why would Russia negotiate then?

    In 2025 the American position will be clear. Likely possibilities:

    1. Four more years of Biden: don’t give Ukraine enough help to win decisively, but enough to bleed Russia heavily for a long time.

    2. Trump wins, does what he says to get a quick peace (if Ukraine refuses Trump’s peace deal, cut Ukraine off and if Russia refuses, escalate aid to Ukraine).

    3. Trump wins, and like his prior administration (which was far more anti-Russian than was weak the Obama administration) he gives more to Ukraine than Biden did in order to be a winner unlike weak Biden.

    4. Trump wins, and follows the Vivek, Vance, Greene and Carlson wing of Republican Party and abandons Ukraine.

    I think the war will end in 2025 if 1-3 happen, but I agree that if 4 occurs then the war will drag on for much longer. If USA steps out, Russia will have less incentive to seek peace, Ukraine won’t surrender, the Euros will still do enough to keep Ukraine from collapsing (and even if the army would collapse, there would be years of bloody resistance).

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I don't think that an aging Trump, if reelected, will be as cavalier or confrontational with the swamp people as he was the first time around, ever mindful of Deep State's abilities to really make his life as uncomfortable as it has now become. Too many parties are interested in keeping Ukraine's stockpile of weaponry well supplied. Trying to weaken or disassemble NATO is just plain stupid.

    , @QCIC
    @AP

    I don't think US politics make much difference to the Ukraine outcome at this point, other than option #5 starting WW3. The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat. I don't know if these changes are good or bad but they appear to be important pieces of the puzzle.

    From a military-statecraft perspective, the West is completely non-treaty worthy with respect to Russia. This means that any treaty is likely to be broken and the Russian administration signing such a treaty will be seen as making a mistake. So any treaties may need to be made between Russia and Ukraine with China and India as guarantors or something equally weird.

    From a military perspective, any remaining independent western Ukraine will likely be used to continue the fight as a guerrilla/terrorist action in both Russian-reclaimed Ukraine as well as Russia proper. I think the disposition of Lvov hangs in the balance between the cost of administering this hostile area if they capture it versus the expected nasty terrorist campaign if they do not capture it.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    , @Cesar1191
    @AP


    This assumes that the willingness to fight remains constant and that the people most willing to fight isn’t front-loaded within the population. In Russia as in Ukraine those most willing to fight have already volunteered. Of course, every year new ones willing to fight will come of age but this number will be smaller than early in the war.

     

    Fair point, but the obvious counterpoint is that at least for now, Russia doesn't seem to be having any major problems with replacing its losses with new soldiers (volunteers?) every month, which has exceeded many people's expectations. I'm not sure about the role of migrants on this, but from what I remember, migrants are given Russian citizenship if they go fight in Ukraine.

    Also, if Putin decides to do other waves of partial mobilization, I am skeptical that this will lead to any popular revolution. Who knows though, it's difficult to assess the resilience of the Russian political system, sometimes it seems incredibly weak and other times it seems incredibly resilient.

    I think the war will end in 2025 if 1-3 happen, but I agree that if 4 occurs then the war will drag on for much longer. If USA steps out, Russia will have less incentive to seek peace, Ukraine won’t surrender, the Euros will still do enough to keep Ukraine from collapsing (and even if the army would collapse, there would be years of bloody resistance).

     

    The first scenario is status quo or was the status quo before Republicans cut off aid to Ukraine for the last few months. I don't think Ukraine or Russia will sign an agreement in this scenario, because they both think they can emerge victorious in this status quo. Remember that even if US aid does not increase, Ukraine will be waiting for an increase in European aid, the Europeans are promising increased deliveries of ammunition and other things to Ukrainians.


    Regarding the second scenario and the Trump peace deal. If this Trump deal doesn't include NATO for Ukraine, the Ukrainians won't even consider such a thing, and if NATO is included, it is unlikely the Russians will consider it.

    Regarding the idea of Trump increasing aid to Ukraine. While this is possible, and would certainly be the ideal scenario for Ukraine if Trump were to win, considering that a majority of House Republicans voted against aid to Ukraine, I would say that Ukraine aid would be walking on thin ice with a Trump presidency. It is worth noting the changes in the coalitions. Obama was extremely weak on Russia, but Obama's presidency was part of the war fatigue over Iraq, in a way so is Trump. Obama was the Democrat dove, while Trump is the Republican dove. The difference is that Trump made isolationism cool, and he elevated weird right-wingers online who, for various reasons, really love Putin and Russia. Trump's first administration had old school Republicans who were hawks on foreign policy, it's not clear that Trump will have the same types of people in a possible second administration.
  780. @AP
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Here is a lot about the witch lady:

    https://www.illiberalism.org/olena-semenyaka-the-first-lady-of-ukrainian-nationalism/

    https://images.app.goo.gl/RT6vAvruG8uKNMYp8

    Azov founder and leader Andriy Biletsky has an interesting background. From wiki:

    “ Andriy Biletsky was born in 1979 in Kharkiv, Soviet Union. Biletsky's father Yevheniy Mykhailovych Biletsky hailed from an old Cossack family that founded the village of Krasnopavlivka in Kharkiv Oblast, while Biletsky's mother Olena Anatoliyivna Biletsky (née Lukashevych) descended from a noble family from Zhytomyr region, to which belong the Decembrist Vasiliy Lukashevich (Vasyl Lukashevych) who founded the "Little-Russian Secret Society"

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard

    I had already seen that first link way back in 2020 or whenever it was when she was discussed here. She was already on the decline of her influence back then. One of the other commenters said she had difficulty pacing her appetite for liquor, drugs, and cigarettes and she was looking like hell which is why nobody was posting photos of her at glamorous parties any more. And somebody else chimed in that Slavic women age worse than Italian women as general rule. I remember thinking that those were odd connections to make. Like Gonzo Lira and Victoria Nuland used to be really hot odd.

    Maybe she got a rich boyfriend and has been hanging out at a health spa and she’ll make a comeback. Photo ops with Dugin together with Azov making polite chitchat would be like the most bizarre thing to ever see on the internet.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Photo ops with Dugin together with Azov making polite chitchat would be like the most bizarre thing to ever see on the internet.
     
    https://image.over-blog.com/C-_Nu8EvZcCef7FXi7fKfw3MH0k=/filters:no_upscale()/image%2F0935939%2F20211211%2Fob_fa648c_olena-semenyaka-005-douguine.jpg

    Her whole scope of reading, with the notable exception of some Ukrainian nationalist authors, is a typical byproduct of the Dugin’s « school of thought ». It’s somewhat darkly amusing to see that the same authors are claimed as inspiration by the Russian Identitarians and the Ukrainian ultra-nationalists. Especially when we see them gladly slaughtering each other on the frontlines.

    And yeah, she looked not bad when she was younger but she didn’t age well. Goth chicks usually don’t.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard

  781. @AP
    @Cesar1191


    The numbers are not infinite, but that does not mean that the war could not last many more years and perhaps even decades if the intensity of the fighting were to decrease
     
    This is correct. If it becomes like 2016-2021 it could last decades.

    you are left with perhaps 10 million men with the disposition and ability to fight. Now, let’s assume, that between dead, wounded and deserters, Russia loses 100 thousand soldiers per year, at such a rate, Russia could sustain this war for more 10 years just using its poor in its depressed regions
     
    This assumes that the willingness to fight remains constant and that the people most willing to fight isn’t front-loaded within the population. In Russia as in Ukraine those most willing to fight have already volunteered. Of course, every year new ones willing to fight will come of age but this number will be smaller than early in the war.

    The latest casualties among Russians are mostly volunteers so it appears that the well of able convicts is running dry.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.


    That depends on the results, doesn’t it? If Trump is elected, and the US cuts aid to Ukraine in 2025, why would Russia negotiate then?
     
    In 2025 the American position will be clear. Likely possibilities:

    1. Four more years of Biden: don’t give Ukraine enough help to win decisively, but enough to bleed Russia heavily for a long time.

    2. Trump wins, does what he says to get a quick peace (if Ukraine refuses Trump’s peace deal, cut Ukraine off and if Russia refuses, escalate aid to Ukraine).

    3. Trump wins, and like his prior administration (which was far more anti-Russian than was weak the Obama administration) he gives more to Ukraine than Biden did in order to be a winner unlike weak Biden.

    4. Trump wins, and follows the Vivek, Vance, Greene and Carlson wing of Republican Party and abandons Ukraine.

    I think the war will end in 2025 if 1-3 happen, but I agree that if 4 occurs then the war will drag on for much longer. If USA steps out, Russia will have less incentive to seek peace, Ukraine won’t surrender, the Euros will still do enough to keep Ukraine from collapsing (and even if the army would collapse, there would be years of bloody resistance).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC, @Cesar1191

    I don’t think that an aging Trump, if reelected, will be as cavalier or confrontational with the swamp people as he was the first time around, ever mindful of Deep State’s abilities to really make his life as uncomfortable as it has now become. Too many parties are interested in keeping Ukraine’s stockpile of weaponry well supplied. Trying to weaken or disassemble NATO is just plain stupid.

  782. QCIC says:
    @sudden death
    Leaving the prediction for the check-up in near future:

    Putin's inauguration is coming soon. A new Government will soon be formed. There is a battle between clans for positions, powers and financial flows. Dyumin (the man of Zolotov and the Rublevka oligarchs of Jewish nationality behind him) is promised the chair of the Minister of Defense, Mironov (the same people behind Dyumin and Kurenkov) - the chair of the Minister of Internal Affairs, Dmitry Shalkov - either the chair of the Director of the FSB, or the head of the Investigative Committee of Russia and etc. Mishustin, in his opinion, is guaranteed the position of Chairman of the Government with a larger number of different ministerial (and not only) portfolios for members of his team than now.
     
    https://telegra.ph/Inauguraciya-Vladimira-Putina-novyj-sostav-Pravitelstva-i-zagranichnye-aktivy-Mihaila-Mishustina-arest-Timura-Ivanova-i-korrupci-05-01-3

    Replies: @QCIC

    How similar is the interlocking web of power at the top of the contemporary Russia system to that in the Communist and Czarist systems?

    Do many families have lineage through all three eras as often seen in other countries or is it a new set of power brokers/seekers for each era?

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC

    The Communists wiped out much of the higher elite (including degenerate members of the elite who had become Communists), so not much. Although Tolstoy’s family did and still do well.

    Genetics is strong, so the later Soviet elites tended not to be descended from Russian peasants. It tended to be second-tier elites who overcame or laundered their backgrounds,* or elite members of national minorities, (often Caucasian and Jewish) who replaced the old bosses after the Revolution.



    * I personally know a family of Volga merchants who at the time of the Revolution abandoned their belongings, sailed down to Astrakhsan and from there to Baku, worked in warehouses or some industry as laborers for awhile, reappeared elsewhere in Russia as “proles” and rose far through Party ranks. The last Soviet generation was in Moscow.

  783. @AP
    @Beckow


    In 1982 Argentina occupied the Maldives and then lost the war.
     
    Because their military was defeated.

    Napoleon marched to Moscow and lost the war.
     
    Because most of his soldiers were killed by the climate and the remnants were defeated by Russians and others.

    US defeated the Iraqis, eliminated its leadership and military, and installed a government it wanted in about 5 weeks. It lost 172 soldiers (including Brits).

    You call that losing.

    Russia meanwhile, after more than 2 years, only grabbed about 9% of Ukraine, lost 100,000+ soldiers, doesn't hold a single provincial capital, lost 1/3 of its nearby fleet, and has become victim to regular Ukrainian attacks deep into its own territory.

    You insist that Russia is winning :-)

    But Ukraine is not in NATO. Like Iraq has no WMDs. :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

    …But Ukraine is not in NATO. Like Iraq has no WMDs.

    An interesting although a far-fetched analogy: wars caused by the perception of a possible threat. Let’s be generous and assume US-UK feared Iraq’s WMDs as much as Russia feared Nato-in-Ukraine.

    Both acted and started wars, but you denounce one and defend the other. Why? Isn’t it hypocrisy? US-UK justified their war by fear of Iraq’s WMDs, why can’t Russia do the same with fear of Nato-in-Ukraine? Let’s leave aside the possibility that US-UK and Russia both pretended and had other goals. Both times the wars started by acting against UN Charter.

    What happened to US-UK for its illegal Iraq war? Nothing: the authors were celebrated, people like you lie about it with ’cause WMDs, media tries to forget the hundreds of thousands dead Iraqis.

    US-UK did it first, more Iraqis were killed with shock-n-awe bombing of civilians and cities – Russia hasn’t done it yet. With all due respect until the West – that you try to represent here – cleans up its own house they have no standing in Ukraine.

    Don’t try the lame escape into ‘but, what-aboutism‘ – rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist, that’s the definition of having rules and laws. US-UK did it first and there were no consequences (Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Libya…). Today we are living in a zero-sum world with no enforceable rules and the stronger side wins. The West threw away the rules-based order, too late to cry over spilled milk…To fix it you will have to first start at home.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Both acted and started wars, but you denounce one and defend the other. Why? Isn’t it hypocrisy
     
    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq. What a stupid thing to lie about.

    But you are indeed a hypocrite to complain about the Iraq invasion while defending the invasion of Ukraine.

    US-UK did it first, more Iraqis were killed with shock-n-awe bombing of civilians and cities
     
    And here you lie again.

    The successful 5 week invasion of Iraq with its shock and awe resulted in 3,200 or 7,300 civilian deaths, depending on source. Per the UN, the Russian invasion of Ukraine has caused far more than 10,000 civilian deaths.

    So no, America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.

    Don’t try the lame escape into ‘but, what-aboutism‘ – rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist
     
    According to this principle, Ukraine’s actions in Donbas 2014-2021 were therefore justified by Russia’s actions in rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s. And what NATO did in Kosovo/Serbia in 1999 was justified by what Russia did earlier in Transnistria/Moldova in 1990-1992. “Rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist.”

    So you’ll stop complaining about that?

    Replies: @Beckow

  784. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity? They all have free will and powers of reason. There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity?

    Very few things in biology and medicine are proven as unambiguously as the law of gravity. I study the mechanisms cell signaling, so my colleagues are neither virologists nor physicians. Most scientists who have no direct interest in this tend to stay away: the issue of AIDS is politicized to the same extent as covid psyop, covid ”vaccine” hoax, human-caused global warming myth, etc. Separating grain from chaff in these areas would be a full-time occupation. Most scientists have better things to do with their time and effort. Simple rule in real sciences: if there are schools of thought, it means that we don’t know.

    They all have free will and powers of reason.

    Free will is an abstract construct. In real life it is severely curbed by the circumstances. E.g., basic science in biology is quite expensive. It is funded by NIH. If you publicly say something that goes against officially approved lies, you are going to be defunded. Result: useful and exciting work you have been doing would be discontinued regardless how successful it is. That’s where powers of reason come into it: a reasonable person won’t endanger his/her life work for the sake of something that does not concern him/her directly.

    Every aspect of American society is designed to defend approved lies and suppress truth. You can see this right now: the footage of students on many US campuses being taught lessons in democracy and freedom of speech by means of police manhandling, beating, incarceration, and pepper spray is all over the internet. The next level of American democracy is shooting (remember Kent State massacre in 1970?). We are not there yet, but there is no crime powers-that-be won’t stoop to: rich trough of public money they steal from is too tempting.

    There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.

    There probably is. These people keep mum for reasons explained above.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    Hey ENR,

    Are you running a teaser publicity campaign for Kevin Barrett's new article? Good job!

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...if there are schools of thought, it means that we don’t know.
     
    I would go further: we also don't force a particular school of thought. The essence of a free society is accepting that people will not agree. That people cannot agree, that's the way we are, it is better that way.

    Western liberal elites today reject this principle - it was the original core of liberalism. They insist on uniformity based on science and values that in practise means based on their power over the society. They are misguided technocrats sliding into nihilism, a very strange ending for the liberal ideology. And it had so much promise...:)

  785. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AP

    I had already seen that first link way back in 2020 or whenever it was when she was discussed here. She was already on the decline of her influence back then. One of the other commenters said she had difficulty pacing her appetite for liquor, drugs, and cigarettes and she was looking like hell which is why nobody was posting photos of her at glamorous parties any more. And somebody else chimed in that Slavic women age worse than Italian women as general rule. I remember thinking that those were odd connections to make. Like Gonzo Lira and Victoria Nuland used to be really hot odd.

    Maybe she got a rich boyfriend and has been hanging out at a health spa and she'll make a comeback. Photo ops with Dugin together with Azov making polite chitchat would be like the most bizarre thing to ever see on the internet.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Photo ops with Dugin together with Azov making polite chitchat would be like the most bizarre thing to ever see on the internet.

    Her whole scope of reading, with the notable exception of some Ukrainian nationalist authors, is a typical byproduct of the Dugin’s « school of thought ». It’s somewhat darkly amusing to see that the same authors are claimed as inspiration by the Russian Identitarians and the Ukrainian ultra-nationalists. Especially when we see them gladly slaughtering each other on the frontlines.

    And yeah, she looked not bad when she was younger but she didn’t age well. Goth chicks usually don’t.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    It's not the years, it's the miles.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    OK I have read first 20 pp of Arnold Alexander Dugin and the Yuzhinsky Circle and so far it is pretty good.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  786. Russian authorities mastered the highest levels of the art of trolling. From May 1 to June 1 there is an open-air exhibition of NATO weapons captured by the RF military in Ukraine: tanks, armored personnel carriers, multiple rocket launchers, etc. The exhibition is located on the territory of a huge memorial of the victory in WWII in Moscow on Poklonnaya Hill (it is called Poklonnaya from the word “poklon”, meaning “a bow”: in the old days when Moscow was much smaller, the travelers from it could see the city from that hill and bow it farewell).

    The trolling is multi-layered. Modern German armored personnel carrier Marder is shown along with Hitler’s armored personnel carrier of the same name captured in WWII. Huge crowds are lining up to see this exhibition. To add insult to injury, the sign at the entrance says that diplomats from the US, British, French, German, and Polish embassies have the right to enter ahead of the queue.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    1. good for them
    2. is there a link with a good photo collection?

  787. QCIC says:
    @AP
    @Cesar1191


    The numbers are not infinite, but that does not mean that the war could not last many more years and perhaps even decades if the intensity of the fighting were to decrease
     
    This is correct. If it becomes like 2016-2021 it could last decades.

    you are left with perhaps 10 million men with the disposition and ability to fight. Now, let’s assume, that between dead, wounded and deserters, Russia loses 100 thousand soldiers per year, at such a rate, Russia could sustain this war for more 10 years just using its poor in its depressed regions
     
    This assumes that the willingness to fight remains constant and that the people most willing to fight isn’t front-loaded within the population. In Russia as in Ukraine those most willing to fight have already volunteered. Of course, every year new ones willing to fight will come of age but this number will be smaller than early in the war.

    The latest casualties among Russians are mostly volunteers so it appears that the well of able convicts is running dry.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.


    That depends on the results, doesn’t it? If Trump is elected, and the US cuts aid to Ukraine in 2025, why would Russia negotiate then?
     
    In 2025 the American position will be clear. Likely possibilities:

    1. Four more years of Biden: don’t give Ukraine enough help to win decisively, but enough to bleed Russia heavily for a long time.

    2. Trump wins, does what he says to get a quick peace (if Ukraine refuses Trump’s peace deal, cut Ukraine off and if Russia refuses, escalate aid to Ukraine).

    3. Trump wins, and like his prior administration (which was far more anti-Russian than was weak the Obama administration) he gives more to Ukraine than Biden did in order to be a winner unlike weak Biden.

    4. Trump wins, and follows the Vivek, Vance, Greene and Carlson wing of Republican Party and abandons Ukraine.

    I think the war will end in 2025 if 1-3 happen, but I agree that if 4 occurs then the war will drag on for much longer. If USA steps out, Russia will have less incentive to seek peace, Ukraine won’t surrender, the Euros will still do enough to keep Ukraine from collapsing (and even if the army would collapse, there would be years of bloody resistance).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC, @Cesar1191

    I don’t think US politics make much difference to the Ukraine outcome at this point, other than option #5 starting WW3. The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat. I don’t know if these changes are good or bad but they appear to be important pieces of the puzzle.

    From a military-statecraft perspective, the West is completely non-treaty worthy with respect to Russia. This means that any treaty is likely to be broken and the Russian administration signing such a treaty will be seen as making a mistake. So any treaties may need to be made between Russia and Ukraine with China and India as guarantors or something equally weird.

    From a military perspective, any remaining independent western Ukraine will likely be used to continue the fight as a guerrilla/terrorist action in both Russian-reclaimed Ukraine as well as Russia proper. I think the disposition of Lvov hangs in the balance between the cost of administering this hostile area if they capture it versus the expected nasty terrorist campaign if they do not capture it.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat.
     
    Today it is, but I am skeptical it was the original plan in 2022. Russia went out of its way for 8 years looking for a compromise, they ignored serious provocations and either pretended or really believed in the remaining Western good will.

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn't bring enough power for anything else - they wanted a quick end to "SMS" with Kiev agreeing to neutrality, demilitarization, language rights for Russians in Ukraine.

    Kiev was told by the West to refuse the deal and fight - Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now - after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.

    The tragedy for the Ukies is that they misread the situation, Russia offered them a way out and they instead used it to escalate the war, boasted about winning and taking back Crimea (even Moscow). Now for the horrible consequences. There will not be a deal - either it goes nuclear or Russia will create new reality on the ground. The only question is how far Russia will go - or can go militarily.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @AP

    , @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    I think the disposition of Lvov hangs in the balance between the cost of administering this hostile area if they capture it versus the expected nasty terrorist campaign if they do not capture it.
     
    The RF has relevant experience in Chechnya: use selected local bandits to keep the rest of local bandits in check. Banderites are sleazy traitorous bunch, so the RF will have no trouble finding local “Kadyrov”. Another option would be using Poles: they enjoy keeping in check Ukrainian bydło (cattle in Polish).

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  788. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity?
     
    Very few things in biology and medicine are proven as unambiguously as the law of gravity. I study the mechanisms cell signaling, so my colleagues are neither virologists nor physicians. Most scientists who have no direct interest in this tend to stay away: the issue of AIDS is politicized to the same extent as covid psyop, covid ”vaccine” hoax, human-caused global warming myth, etc. Separating grain from chaff in these areas would be a full-time occupation. Most scientists have better things to do with their time and effort. Simple rule in real sciences: if there are schools of thought, it means that we don’t know.

    They all have free will and powers of reason.
     
    Free will is an abstract construct. In real life it is severely curbed by the circumstances. E.g., basic science in biology is quite expensive. It is funded by NIH. If you publicly say something that goes against officially approved lies, you are going to be defunded. Result: useful and exciting work you have been doing would be discontinued regardless how successful it is. That’s where powers of reason come into it: a reasonable person won’t endanger his/her life work for the sake of something that does not concern him/her directly.

    Every aspect of American society is designed to defend approved lies and suppress truth. You can see this right now: the footage of students on many US campuses being taught lessons in democracy and freedom of speech by means of police manhandling, beating, incarceration, and pepper spray is all over the internet. The next level of American democracy is shooting (remember Kent State massacre in 1970?). We are not there yet, but there is no crime powers-that-be won’t stoop to: rich trough of public money they steal from is too tempting.

    There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.
     
    There probably is. These people keep mum for reasons explained above.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    Hey ENR,

    Are you running a teaser publicity campaign for Kevin Barrett’s new article? Good job!

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Are you running a teaser publicity campaign for Kevin Barrett’s new article?
     
    I have to disappoint you: I never saw this article. Is it worth reading?

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    Just asking questions!

  789. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Do most of your colleagues think HIV causes AIDS is scientifically factual like the law of gravity?
     
    Very few things in biology and medicine are proven as unambiguously as the law of gravity. I study the mechanisms cell signaling, so my colleagues are neither virologists nor physicians. Most scientists who have no direct interest in this tend to stay away: the issue of AIDS is politicized to the same extent as covid psyop, covid ”vaccine” hoax, human-caused global warming myth, etc. Separating grain from chaff in these areas would be a full-time occupation. Most scientists have better things to do with their time and effort. Simple rule in real sciences: if there are schools of thought, it means that we don’t know.

    They all have free will and powers of reason.
     
    Free will is an abstract construct. In real life it is severely curbed by the circumstances. E.g., basic science in biology is quite expensive. It is funded by NIH. If you publicly say something that goes against officially approved lies, you are going to be defunded. Result: useful and exciting work you have been doing would be discontinued regardless how successful it is. That’s where powers of reason come into it: a reasonable person won’t endanger his/her life work for the sake of something that does not concern him/her directly.

    Every aspect of American society is designed to defend approved lies and suppress truth. You can see this right now: the footage of students on many US campuses being taught lessons in democracy and freedom of speech by means of police manhandling, beating, incarceration, and pepper spray is all over the internet. The next level of American democracy is shooting (remember Kent State massacre in 1970?). We are not there yet, but there is no crime powers-that-be won’t stoop to: rich trough of public money they steal from is too tempting.

    There must be some percentage of them who can see that nothing at all has actually been proven.
     
    There probably is. These people keep mum for reasons explained above.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    …if there are schools of thought, it means that we don’t know.

    I would go further: we also don’t force a particular school of thought. The essence of a free society is accepting that people will not agree. That people cannot agree, that’s the way we are, it is better that way.

    Western liberal elites today reject this principle – it was the original core of liberalism. They insist on uniformity based on science and values that in practise means based on their power over the society. They are misguided technocrats sliding into nihilism, a very strange ending for the liberal ideology. And it had so much promise…:)

  790. @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    Hey ENR,

    Are you running a teaser publicity campaign for Kevin Barrett's new article? Good job!

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Are you running a teaser publicity campaign for Kevin Barrett’s new article?

    I have to disappoint you: I never saw this article. Is it worth reading?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    Yes, it does give some background on the history of the AIDS controversy but it veers into some unrelated controversies and spiritual topics (Kevin Barrett) you may reject out of hand. The energy might be better spent reading or even skimming Duesberg's book.

    , @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    I enjoyed reading the interview. I've been a fan of Celia Farber's work for a long time, though I was not paying much attention to the controversy in the early days. I probably read Duesberg's book in the mid-90's.

    Duesberg's rejection of the HIV = AIDS case was thorough and very persuasive to some of us. I don't think he emphasized the lies of the HIV/AIDS establishment as much as the flawed epistemology. Authors like Farber highlighted some of the lies, IIRC. Over time, people have published attempts to refute Duesberg, sometimes with new data. Unfortunately, without admitting and owning the earlier flaws AND lies their cases are not very believable. I think it was pretty clear even in the 1990's that the HIV = AIDS edifice would go largely unchallenged until all the first and second generation players have died or at least retired.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  791. @QCIC
    @AP

    I don't think US politics make much difference to the Ukraine outcome at this point, other than option #5 starting WW3. The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat. I don't know if these changes are good or bad but they appear to be important pieces of the puzzle.

    From a military-statecraft perspective, the West is completely non-treaty worthy with respect to Russia. This means that any treaty is likely to be broken and the Russian administration signing such a treaty will be seen as making a mistake. So any treaties may need to be made between Russia and Ukraine with China and India as guarantors or something equally weird.

    From a military perspective, any remaining independent western Ukraine will likely be used to continue the fight as a guerrilla/terrorist action in both Russian-reclaimed Ukraine as well as Russia proper. I think the disposition of Lvov hangs in the balance between the cost of administering this hostile area if they capture it versus the expected nasty terrorist campaign if they do not capture it.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    …The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat.

    Today it is, but I am skeptical it was the original plan in 2022. Russia went out of its way for 8 years looking for a compromise, they ignored serious provocations and either pretended or really believed in the remaining Western good will.

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else – they wanted a quick end to “SMS” with Kiev agreeing to neutrality, demilitarization, language rights for Russians in Ukraine.

    Kiev was told by the West to refuse the deal and fight – Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now – after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.

    The tragedy for the Ukies is that they misread the situation, Russia offered them a way out and they instead used it to escalate the war, boasted about winning and taking back Crimea (even Moscow). Now for the horrible consequences. There will not be a deal – either it goes nuclear or Russia will create new reality on the ground. The only question is how far Russia will go – or can go militarily.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Beckow

    From my perspective, the Russian involvement in Syria in 2015 is an essential part of the Ukraine story. I think they went in for two main reasons, to prepare and train for heavy combat in Ukraine and also to inform the world they were serious about fighting the West. The second reason has two opposing aspects, one was to give the West an incentive to back off in Ukraine, the other is a clue to the West to accelerate the Ukrainian project before Russia has time to prepare. Around the same time the West started the sanctions which led to continuous, though gradual preparations for economic war. Once these things occurred I believe there must have been intense factional struggles within the Kremlin which are probably still churning.

    I think by 2022 Russia was not prepared for the SMO. My opinion is the West was about to spring military moves which had to be fought, taking Crimea being the likely move. At that point waiting and gradually preparing were no longer an option for Russia. Since 2022 the greater sanctions, attacks on Russia soil, huge loss of life on both sides and intense Western antipathy against Russia must have made it easier to prepare for war within Russian society. Easier in the sense that institutional barriers between government factions, oligarchs and outside meddlers are at least partially pushed aside. On the other hand, the major sanctions obviously made most things more difficult economically. The net result over two years is gradual but visible progress by Russia in preparations for expanded efforts in Ukraine and future combat in other locations.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate.

    So what would you describe the attempts at killing Zelensky? Along with the bounty on his head?

    Was that negotiating?

    Do you believe the leaked plans showing a 2.5 week war are fake?

    Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else – they wanted a quick end to “SMS” with Kiev agreeing to neutrality, demilitarization, language rights for Russians in Ukraine.

    Did you imagine those demands or do you have an actual list from Putin?

    You do realize that Russia ended diplomatic relations with Ukraine?

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else
     
    It's funny how you lie to yourself.

    If America failed in Iraq as Russia has failed in Ukraine, some American "Beckow" would say that of course it was only an attempt at gunboat diplomacy and to take some land and negotiate WMDs or whatever. Such an American "Beckow" would insist that America never planned to take over Iraq because it only brought 450,000 troops compared to the 1.1 million man Iraqi army defending cities such as Baghdad (population around 5 million in 2003 IIRC).

    It's funny Beckow, because you yourself predicted that Russia's force would conquer Ukraine quickly. You gloated that the Ukrainian leadership would flee, and the Ukrainian soldiers would surrender rather than face arrest later.

    That is actually something the Russians apparently believed. It's why their troops outside Kiev had parade uniforms, and they brought a lot of riot police with them. They were expecting something in the range of Czechoslovakia 1968, Georgia 2008 (except they wouldn't stop), or Iraq 2003.

    And it's why in the first days of the war they were all excitedly predicted how Ukraine would fall in a few weeks. Have you forgotten? Putin sycophants like MacGregor or Ritter were claiming any month Ukraine would fall.

    But now you say they never tried to conquer Ukraine after all, of course it would be stupid to expect that 300,000 Russian + Donbas troops could defeat 300,000 Ukrainian ones and take over the country.

    It's funny to see you flail around, changing your story, about this and other things.


    Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now – after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.
     
    Like Poland 1920, or Japan 1905?

    As long as Russia has hope that the West will walk away (and it will have this hope at least until 2025) it will not back down - that would be a stupid thing to do. But then? A face-saving deal versus eternal sanctions and losing 50k dead every year becomes very possible. Ukraine may be in NATO, but Crimea (and maybe even a land corridor) is forever theirs, they have captured Mariupol, hurrah.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow, @Derer

  792. @QCIC
    @AP

    I don't think US politics make much difference to the Ukraine outcome at this point, other than option #5 starting WW3. The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat. I don't know if these changes are good or bad but they appear to be important pieces of the puzzle.

    From a military-statecraft perspective, the West is completely non-treaty worthy with respect to Russia. This means that any treaty is likely to be broken and the Russian administration signing such a treaty will be seen as making a mistake. So any treaties may need to be made between Russia and Ukraine with China and India as guarantors or something equally weird.

    From a military perspective, any remaining independent western Ukraine will likely be used to continue the fight as a guerrilla/terrorist action in both Russian-reclaimed Ukraine as well as Russia proper. I think the disposition of Lvov hangs in the balance between the cost of administering this hostile area if they capture it versus the expected nasty terrorist campaign if they do not capture it.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    I think the disposition of Lvov hangs in the balance between the cost of administering this hostile area if they capture it versus the expected nasty terrorist campaign if they do not capture it.

    The RF has relevant experience in Chechnya: use selected local bandits to keep the rest of local bandits in check. Banderites are sleazy traitorous bunch, so the RF will have no trouble finding local “Kadyrov”. Another option would be using Poles: they enjoy keeping in check Ukrainian bydło (cattle in Polish).

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    No, we don't enjoy. Poland has never been a state founded on military aristocracy like Ukraine.
    In Polish historiography you can meet a view that Ukraine was one of the reasons of negative evolution of the Kingdom of Poland since Ukraine funded the great fortunes of magnates/aristocracy - only in Ukraine there was so much free land to take. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was kind of oligarchic from the beginning but Poland was more equal.

    Even now, Ukraine is ruled by oligarchs, who send this cheap grain to Poland from the great areas they leased to some agricultural conglomerates.

    When the war ends, Ukrainians need to get rid of their oligarchs.

    Anyway, such is the nature of the extractory rule by foreign elites - I have been just reading on the history of Crete, and there were 27 uprisings there against harsh Venetian rule! And like in Ukraine, Cretans were Orthodox but Venetians were Catholics, just Venice was the great merchant oligarchy unlike Poland.
    But we are never told this, since Venetians are "good" foreigners and Turks are "bad" ones who took Crete from good Venetians, more or less in the same time when Russians took Ukraine from Poland.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  793. @AnonfromTN
    Russian authorities mastered the highest levels of the art of trolling. From May 1 to June 1 there is an open-air exhibition of NATO weapons captured by the RF military in Ukraine: tanks, armored personnel carriers, multiple rocket launchers, etc. The exhibition is located on the territory of a huge memorial of the victory in WWII in Moscow on Poklonnaya Hill (it is called Poklonnaya from the word “poklon”, meaning “a bow”: in the old days when Moscow was much smaller, the travelers from it could see the city from that hill and bow it farewell).

    The trolling is multi-layered. Modern German armored personnel carrier Marder is shown along with Hitler’s armored personnel carrier of the same name captured in WWII. Huge crowds are lining up to see this exhibition. To add insult to injury, the sign at the entrance says that diplomats from the US, British, French, German, and Polish embassies have the right to enter ahead of the queue.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    1. good for them
    2. is there a link with a good photo collection?

  794. @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    Hey ENR,

    Are you running a teaser publicity campaign for Kevin Barrett's new article? Good job!

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Just asking questions!

  795. Battle of the Nations
    Russia Spain

    [MORE]

    Huge win for Rublev.

  796. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Are you running a teaser publicity campaign for Kevin Barrett’s new article?
     
    I have to disappoint you: I never saw this article. Is it worth reading?

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC

    Yes, it does give some background on the history of the AIDS controversy but it veers into some unrelated controversies and spiritual topics (Kevin Barrett) you may reject out of hand. The energy might be better spent reading or even skimming Duesberg’s book.

  797. QCIC says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Are you running a teaser publicity campaign for Kevin Barrett’s new article?
     
    I have to disappoint you: I never saw this article. Is it worth reading?

    Replies: @QCIC, @QCIC

    I enjoyed reading the interview. I’ve been a fan of Celia Farber’s work for a long time, though I was not paying much attention to the controversy in the early days. I probably read Duesberg’s book in the mid-90’s.

    Duesberg’s rejection of the HIV = AIDS case was thorough and very persuasive to some of us. I don’t think he emphasized the lies of the HIV/AIDS establishment as much as the flawed epistemology. Authors like Farber highlighted some of the lies, IIRC. Over time, people have published attempts to refute Duesberg, sometimes with new data. Unfortunately, without admitting and owning the earlier flaws AND lies their cases are not very believable. I think it was pretty clear even in the 1990’s that the HIV = AIDS edifice would go largely unchallenged until all the first and second generation players have died or at least retired.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC

    Maybe this is disgraceful (but so is virtually everything in modern West), but I simply stay away from this. I use lentiviral vectors and AAVs, they do exactly what they are supposed to do in living mice, and that’s what I care about.

    Personally, I have very little hope for the Western societies: the disease is too advanced to expect a cure. At present stage it looks terminal to me. But the scientific findings I am making and will hopefully make will be useful for humans long after the US-dominated world order crashes and burns.

    Replies: @Sean, @QCIC

  798. @QCIC
    @Derer

    I don't see these excuses very often in a specific form. I encounter the more extreme and sweeping excuses along the line that Russians are fundamentally aggressive and barbaric, have been and always will be. This one is cute when it comes from Ukies who probably had some Russian ancestors!

    Replies: @LT1488, @Mikhail

    NATO neocon/neolib enthusiasts have openly advocated forever wars as detailed in the below video:

    As Lindsey Graham said: to the last Ukrainian.

    Regarding Lloyd Austin:

  799. @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    I enjoyed reading the interview. I've been a fan of Celia Farber's work for a long time, though I was not paying much attention to the controversy in the early days. I probably read Duesberg's book in the mid-90's.

    Duesberg's rejection of the HIV = AIDS case was thorough and very persuasive to some of us. I don't think he emphasized the lies of the HIV/AIDS establishment as much as the flawed epistemology. Authors like Farber highlighted some of the lies, IIRC. Over time, people have published attempts to refute Duesberg, sometimes with new data. Unfortunately, without admitting and owning the earlier flaws AND lies their cases are not very believable. I think it was pretty clear even in the 1990's that the HIV = AIDS edifice would go largely unchallenged until all the first and second generation players have died or at least retired.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Maybe this is disgraceful (but so is virtually everything in modern West), but I simply stay away from this. I use lentiviral vectors and AAVs, they do exactly what they are supposed to do in living mice, and that’s what I care about.

    Personally, I have very little hope for the Western societies: the disease is too advanced to expect a cure. At present stage it looks terminal to me. But the scientific findings I am making and will hopefully make will be useful for humans long after the US-dominated world order crashes and burns.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @AnonfromTN


    Personally, I have very little hope for the Western societies: the disease is too advanced to expect a cure.
     
    https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/inequality-total-war-great-leveller

    War is the cure, it reduces inequality and makes society more stable. If the White house activated the Defence Production Act and ordered US businesses to make arms then the workers would have more power. and the wealthy-bloated elite weaker.

    In France, for example, fully 92% of the net decline in the top 1% income share from 1938 to the early 1980s had already occurred by 1945. In the US, more than half of the corresponding net reduction between 1940 and the 1970s took place before 1945, and three-quarters in Canada. In Japan, inequality in 1945 was lower than at any time before or since, and at least by one measure the same was true of Germany in 1950. In the UK, by contrast, wartime equalisation accounted for a somewhat smaller share of the total decline, just as it did in some Nordic countries and in India (Scheidel 2017: 134-7, based on WID).

    Even so, with the single exception of Sweden, in all relevant countries for which we have data, levelling was much more rapid during the war itself.
     

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    I didn't mean to press you on this HIV topic, it was just a coincidence with the Barrett interview and ENR asking about it. Please stay focussed on your own scientific adventures!

  800. QCIC says:
    @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat.
     
    Today it is, but I am skeptical it was the original plan in 2022. Russia went out of its way for 8 years looking for a compromise, they ignored serious provocations and either pretended or really believed in the remaining Western good will.

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn't bring enough power for anything else - they wanted a quick end to "SMS" with Kiev agreeing to neutrality, demilitarization, language rights for Russians in Ukraine.

    Kiev was told by the West to refuse the deal and fight - Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now - after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.

    The tragedy for the Ukies is that they misread the situation, Russia offered them a way out and they instead used it to escalate the war, boasted about winning and taking back Crimea (even Moscow). Now for the horrible consequences. There will not be a deal - either it goes nuclear or Russia will create new reality on the ground. The only question is how far Russia will go - or can go militarily.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @AP

    From my perspective, the Russian involvement in Syria in 2015 is an essential part of the Ukraine story. I think they went in for two main reasons, to prepare and train for heavy combat in Ukraine and also to inform the world they were serious about fighting the West. The second reason has two opposing aspects, one was to give the West an incentive to back off in Ukraine, the other is a clue to the West to accelerate the Ukrainian project before Russia has time to prepare. Around the same time the West started the sanctions which led to continuous, though gradual preparations for economic war. Once these things occurred I believe there must have been intense factional struggles within the Kremlin which are probably still churning.

    I think by 2022 Russia was not prepared for the SMO. My opinion is the West was about to spring military moves which had to be fought, taking Crimea being the likely move. At that point waiting and gradually preparing were no longer an option for Russia. Since 2022 the greater sanctions, attacks on Russia soil, huge loss of life on both sides and intense Western antipathy against Russia must have made it easier to prepare for war within Russian society. Easier in the sense that institutional barriers between government factions, oligarchs and outside meddlers are at least partially pushed aside. On the other hand, the major sanctions obviously made most things more difficult economically. The net result over two years is gradual but visible progress by Russia in preparations for expanded efforts in Ukraine and future combat in other locations.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...intense Western antipathy against Russia must have made it easier to prepare for war within Russian society.
     
    Predictably, so why do it? The only scenario under which the demonization of everything Russian makes sense is an all-out war the West was hoping to win. It is puzzling that Russians didn't see it.

    I agree that Syria was the test-ground, Russia wanted to show some teeth and assess reaction. But crossing-the-Rubicon moment was Crimea in 2014. The issue in 2022 was that Kiev's control of Azov coast made Crimea indefensible - Russia quickly took it and the Ukie offensive was about trying to get it back. Donbas is a side show - it is mainly about Crimea.

    There is an old saying that Russians are slow to saddle but fast to ride. Maybe they are now ready. The only way Nato could win is if Russia wouldn't fight or it collapsed internally. This is a textbook example of turning the success of your project to the enemy - I can't believe the West was so stupid. But not as stupid as the Ukies...

  801. Sean says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @AnonfromTN

    Correction about Peter Turchin: actually, he left Russia (then the USSR) in 1976, i.e., 48 years ago.

    Replies: @Sean

    Peter Turchin is the son of an expelled dissident (a physicist), that is why he ceased to live in Russia in the seventies . In 2010 Turchin was one of a number of influential scientists and tech figured invited by the Nature to look into a crystal ball; he predicted a decade of instability in the West, reaching a crescendo “around 2020” and prolly lasting at least another five years. Of late he says the war had made Russia more stable because the people who went abroad, reduced immigration, and massively increased industry (eg immense 24/7 shell production), means workers in Russia have good prospects. Russia is a military autocracy command economy, so how can it not be backward, even as it is winning?

    https://www.unz.com/pfrost/the-other-slave-trade/

    Crimean Tatars who lived under Ottoman protection in the Black Sea region. Beginning in the mid-15th century, they would fan out each year on raids into what is now Ukraine and southern Russia. These raids served no military purpose, being driven by the profits to be made in the slave trade:

    […] most of these raids do not appear to have had any military purpose and, moreover, had little or no relationship to Ottoman policy. They were an integral part of the Crimean economy, a “harvesting of the steppe” as the Tatars explained it. (Fisher, 1973)

    […]
    Conclusion

    Slave trading existed in many parts of the world and during many historical periods. Trading in fair-skinned women, however, was much more limited in space and time. There is no evidence of it during Roman times, at least not on a large scale. If a Roman notable wanted a bride with milk-white skin, he would look among the families in his entourage and not among the slaves at the local market. After all, a native-born woman of good family would bring a dowry and valuable family connections.
    All of this changed in the 7th century with the dramatic expansion of the Arab world into the Middle East and thence into North Africa and Spain. The new elites were darker in skin tone and, also, more polygynous. It was these two factors that would fuel demand for fair-skinned brides and concubines.

    A third factor was of course the relative weakness of European societies, particularly during the Dark Ages that followed the collapse of the Roman Empire. With the gradual strengthening of European states, this trade increasingly took the form of hit-and-run raids that focused on poorly defended areas, such as the plains north of the Black Sea. This raiding would finally end only with European annexation of those “states” that earned most of their income from the slave trade, such as the Khanate of the Crimea and the Beyliks of North Africa.

    Would this trade have continued if Europe had remained weak? Probably. Would it have eventually become more humane and sustainable? Doubtful. Though often described as “harvesting,” there never was any effort to make it sustainable. A Tatar raid typically left behind the old and the very young, as a Polish report noted: “In the fields and forests they [i.e. the Tatars] left behind over 200 poor children whom they could not take along since everyone preferred to take horses and oxen rather than children” (Kolodziejczyk, 2006).

    The result was widespread depopulation of much of Ukraine and southern Russia, which in turn forced the Tatars to raid farther and farther afield, even as far as present-day Poland. Demographic wastage was considerable:

    The Crimean Tatar society was based on raiding the neighbouring Slavic and Caucasian sedentary societies and selling the captives into the slave markets of Eurasia. Approximately 75 percent of the Crimean population consisted of slaves or freedmen, and much of the free population was highly predatory, engaged either in the gathering of slaves or in the selling of them. It is known that for every slave the Crimeans sold in the market, they killed outright several other people during their raids, and a couple more died on the way to the slave market. (Britannica, 2013)

    There was no resource management, only resource depletion (Wikipedia, 2013). As Kolodziejczyk (2006) notes:

    We should not close our eyes to the consequences of depopulation, affecting large Slavic territories in Eastern Europe. If an “alternative” history of Ukraine were imaginable, perhaps the country’s historical development would have looked different had it not been for the slave trade

    .

    Ukraine is considered to be part of ‘Old Europe’ yet the plains north of the Black Sea were finally opened for settlement at about the same time as the plains of the United States and Canada.

    Peter Turchin’s hypothesis is settlers on the steppe frontier, subject to woman stealing attacks by mounted hordes were forced to form what eventually became empires . Volha Charnysh ( Ford Career Development Associate Professor of Political Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology) has a closely related argument about predatory pastoralist raids causing state formation. If Putin had paid attention to the origin of what is especially the Ukrainians’ national psyche, then he would have realised they were an opponent best avoided.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    Russia is a military autocracy command economy
     
    This is a blatant lie. Point-by-point:

    Military
    Russia is a lot less militarized than many Western societies. In fact, just a year ago in Moscow you wouldn’t be able to tell that the country is at war. Maybe because of this the authorities installed numerous displays showing faces of those awarded the Hero of Russia (the highest decoration in the RF) for their actions in Ukraine and descriptions of what they did to earn this honor.

    Autocracy
    Russia is a lot more democratic that the US and other Western societies. The authorities are more responsive to the wishes of the people than anywhere in the West. Banana republic level election fraud in the US in 2020 was ever matched only in a few RF regions (I guess Chechnya is one of those). Scenes of brutal beatings by the police of Yellow Wests in France and more recent similar scenes of beatings of protesters against Israeli crimes in Gaza, as well as of beatings, manhandling, and use of pepper spray by the US police across numerous campuses that are now all over the internet are impossible in Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.

    Command economy
    Russia has a market economy that is freer than anywhere in the West. You consistently get higher quality food and other goods and better service in Russia than in the US. I guess this is because the US is dominated by monopolies who bought the government of all levels to ensure that their profits are safe and their “success” is not undermined by the competition. The result of the limitations on companies involved in military production in Russia is that maybe 10-15% of Russian military budget is stolen directly or via inflated prices, whereas in the US this fraction exceeds 50%. Less freedom for thieves means more freedom for ordinary people. It’s as simple as that.
    , @QCIC
    @Sean

    I think the history of the Crimean slave trade is an important reason why Russia would not and could not give Crimea to the West. Something vaguely similar is the USA fighting the Barbary Pirates in North Africa which is one of the founding episodes of the US Marine Corps mythos. I am always a bit surprised Russia gets along with the Turks. There is lots of history in the Black Sea.

  802. @AnonfromTN
    @S1

    Excellent substantive and thought-provoking comment (very rare on this thread).

    Propaganda or brainwashing? Distinction without a difference.

    I did not read the book, but I see a critical omission in your excerpt. The real rulers are not propagandists/brainwashers, but those who own and direct them. The same people own and direct the government (which in the US includes the President, his cabinet, and Congress). Both MSM and the government are pretty expensive. Only those who are stealing huge amounts of public funds (that’s hundreds of billions in the US) can afford to own propagandists (and MSM spreading their propaganda) and the government. Owning and directing MSM and the government maintains their opportunities to steal massive amounts of public money and keep this gravy train going. This is a positive feedback loop. Positive feedback eventually makes any system crash and burn. That’s the tendency we are observing in the US now.

    The weakness of this system is that the people who own MSM and the government are not one person or even an organization. These people would gladly steal from each other and cut each other’s throats. E.g., the animosity of a big part of the establishment to Trump and Musk illustrates disunity of thieves. Infighting among thieves gives the US hope.

    We can only observe this from sidelines. But we can root for them all to exterminate each other. That’s the only chance to save the country.

    Replies: @S1, @S1

    Propaganda or brainwashing? Distinction without a difference.

    That is your opinion of course.

    You know, contrarianism, needless hyper-criticality, and know-it-all-ism, doesn’t tend to translate into much of a healthy and enjoyable discussion. [I’d intended to respond specifically to this a bit earlier.]

  803. Sean says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC

    Maybe this is disgraceful (but so is virtually everything in modern West), but I simply stay away from this. I use lentiviral vectors and AAVs, they do exactly what they are supposed to do in living mice, and that’s what I care about.

    Personally, I have very little hope for the Western societies: the disease is too advanced to expect a cure. At present stage it looks terminal to me. But the scientific findings I am making and will hopefully make will be useful for humans long after the US-dominated world order crashes and burns.

    Replies: @Sean, @QCIC

    Personally, I have very little hope for the Western societies: the disease is too advanced to expect a cure.

    https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/inequality-total-war-great-leveller

    War is the cure, it reduces inequality and makes society more stable. If the White house activated the Defence Production Act and ordered US businesses to make arms then the workers would have more power. and the wealthy-bloated elite weaker.

    In France, for example, fully 92% of the net decline in the top 1% income share from 1938 to the early 1980s had already occurred by 1945. In the US, more than half of the corresponding net reduction between 1940 and the 1970s took place before 1945, and three-quarters in Canada. In Japan, inequality in 1945 was lower than at any time before or since, and at least by one measure the same was true of Germany in 1950. In the UK, by contrast, wartime equalisation accounted for a somewhat smaller share of the total decline, just as it did in some Nordic countries and in India (Scheidel 2017: 134-7, based on WID).

    Even so, with the single exception of Sweden, in all relevant countries for which we have data, levelling was much more rapid during the war itself.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Sean

    I agree there is no near-term chance of getting back to some nice version of the society we had before, that is gone. There is always hope that a new and improved culture can rise from the ashes, but I would not bet on it at this point. Inmates are running the asylum. This asylum has an interesting structure where the meanest, dumbest and craziest rise to the top.

  804. @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    Peter Turchin is the son of an expelled dissident (a physicist), that is why he ceased to live in Russia in the seventies . In 2010 Turchin was one of a number of influential scientists and tech figured invited by the Nature to look into a crystal ball; he predicted a decade of instability in the West, reaching a crescendo “around 2020” and prolly lasting at least another five years. Of late he says the war had made Russia more stable because the people who went abroad, reduced immigration, and massively increased industry (eg immense 24/7 shell production), means workers in Russia have good prospects. Russia is a military autocracy command economy, so how can it not be backward, even as it is winning?


    https://www.unz.com/pfrost/the-other-slave-trade/

    Crimean Tatars who lived under Ottoman protection in the Black Sea region. Beginning in the mid-15th century, they would fan out each year on raids into what is now Ukraine and southern Russia. These raids served no military purpose, being driven by the profits to be made in the slave trade:

    […] most of these raids do not appear to have had any military purpose and, moreover, had little or no relationship to Ottoman policy. They were an integral part of the Crimean economy, a “harvesting of the steppe” as the Tatars explained it. (Fisher, 1973)

    [...]
    Conclusion

    Slave trading existed in many parts of the world and during many historical periods. Trading in fair-skinned women, however, was much more limited in space and time. There is no evidence of it during Roman times, at least not on a large scale. If a Roman notable wanted a bride with milk-white skin, he would look among the families in his entourage and not among the slaves at the local market. After all, a native-born woman of good family would bring a dowry and valuable family connections.
    All of this changed in the 7th century with the dramatic expansion of the Arab world into the Middle East and thence into North Africa and Spain. The new elites were darker in skin tone and, also, more polygynous. It was these two factors that would fuel demand for fair-skinned brides and concubines.

    A third factor was of course the relative weakness of European societies, particularly during the Dark Ages that followed the collapse of the Roman Empire. With the gradual strengthening of European states, this trade increasingly took the form of hit-and-run raids that focused on poorly defended areas, such as the plains north of the Black Sea. This raiding would finally end only with European annexation of those “states” that earned most of their income from the slave trade, such as the Khanate of the Crimea and the Beyliks of North Africa.

    Would this trade have continued if Europe had remained weak? Probably. Would it have eventually become more humane and sustainable? Doubtful. Though often described as “harvesting,” there never was any effort to make it sustainable. A Tatar raid typically left behind the old and the very young, as a Polish report noted: “In the fields and forests they [i.e. the Tatars] left behind over 200 poor children whom they could not take along since everyone preferred to take horses and oxen rather than children” (Kolodziejczyk, 2006).

    The result was widespread depopulation of much of Ukraine and southern Russia, which in turn forced the Tatars to raid farther and farther afield, even as far as present-day Poland. Demographic wastage was considerable:

    The Crimean Tatar society was based on raiding the neighbouring Slavic and Caucasian sedentary societies and selling the captives into the slave markets of Eurasia. Approximately 75 percent of the Crimean population consisted of slaves or freedmen, and much of the free population was highly predatory, engaged either in the gathering of slaves or in the selling of them. It is known that for every slave the Crimeans sold in the market, they killed outright several other people during their raids, and a couple more died on the way to the slave market. (Britannica, 2013)

    There was no resource management, only resource depletion (Wikipedia, 2013). As Kolodziejczyk (2006) notes:

    We should not close our eyes to the consequences of depopulation, affecting large Slavic territories in Eastern Europe. If an “alternative” history of Ukraine were imaginable, perhaps the country’s historical development would have looked different had it not been for the slave trade
     
    .

    Ukraine is considered to be part of ‘Old Europe’ yet the plains north of the Black Sea were finally opened for settlement at about the same time as the plains of the United States and Canada.
     
    Peter Turchin's hypothesis is settlers on the steppe frontier, subject to woman stealing attacks by mounted hordes were forced to form what eventually became empires . Volha Charnysh ( Ford Career Development Associate Professor of Political Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology) has a closely related argument about predatory pastoralist raids causing state formation. If Putin had paid attention to the origin of what is especially the Ukrainians' national psyche, then he would have realised they were an opponent best avoided.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    Russia is a military autocracy command economy

    This is a blatant lie. Point-by-point:

    Military
    Russia is a lot less militarized than many Western societies. In fact, just a year ago in Moscow you wouldn’t be able to tell that the country is at war. Maybe because of this the authorities installed numerous displays showing faces of those awarded the Hero of Russia (the highest decoration in the RF) for their actions in Ukraine and descriptions of what they did to earn this honor.

    Autocracy
    Russia is a lot more democratic that the US and other Western societies. The authorities are more responsive to the wishes of the people than anywhere in the West. Banana republic level election fraud in the US in 2020 was ever matched only in a few RF regions (I guess Chechnya is one of those). Scenes of brutal beatings by the police of Yellow Wests in France and more recent similar scenes of beatings of protesters against Israeli crimes in Gaza, as well as of beatings, manhandling, and use of pepper spray by the US police across numerous campuses that are now all over the internet are impossible in Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.

    Command economy
    Russia has a market economy that is freer than anywhere in the West. You consistently get higher quality food and other goods and better service in Russia than in the US. I guess this is because the US is dominated by monopolies who bought the government of all levels to ensure that their profits are safe and their “success” is not undermined by the competition. The result of the limitations on companies involved in military production in Russia is that maybe 10-15% of Russian military budget is stolen directly or via inflated prices, whereas in the US this fraction exceeds 50%. Less freedom for thieves means more freedom for ordinary people. It’s as simple as that.

  805. QCIC says:
    @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    Peter Turchin is the son of an expelled dissident (a physicist), that is why he ceased to live in Russia in the seventies . In 2010 Turchin was one of a number of influential scientists and tech figured invited by the Nature to look into a crystal ball; he predicted a decade of instability in the West, reaching a crescendo “around 2020” and prolly lasting at least another five years. Of late he says the war had made Russia more stable because the people who went abroad, reduced immigration, and massively increased industry (eg immense 24/7 shell production), means workers in Russia have good prospects. Russia is a military autocracy command economy, so how can it not be backward, even as it is winning?


    https://www.unz.com/pfrost/the-other-slave-trade/

    Crimean Tatars who lived under Ottoman protection in the Black Sea region. Beginning in the mid-15th century, they would fan out each year on raids into what is now Ukraine and southern Russia. These raids served no military purpose, being driven by the profits to be made in the slave trade:

    […] most of these raids do not appear to have had any military purpose and, moreover, had little or no relationship to Ottoman policy. They were an integral part of the Crimean economy, a “harvesting of the steppe” as the Tatars explained it. (Fisher, 1973)

    [...]
    Conclusion

    Slave trading existed in many parts of the world and during many historical periods. Trading in fair-skinned women, however, was much more limited in space and time. There is no evidence of it during Roman times, at least not on a large scale. If a Roman notable wanted a bride with milk-white skin, he would look among the families in his entourage and not among the slaves at the local market. After all, a native-born woman of good family would bring a dowry and valuable family connections.
    All of this changed in the 7th century with the dramatic expansion of the Arab world into the Middle East and thence into North Africa and Spain. The new elites were darker in skin tone and, also, more polygynous. It was these two factors that would fuel demand for fair-skinned brides and concubines.

    A third factor was of course the relative weakness of European societies, particularly during the Dark Ages that followed the collapse of the Roman Empire. With the gradual strengthening of European states, this trade increasingly took the form of hit-and-run raids that focused on poorly defended areas, such as the plains north of the Black Sea. This raiding would finally end only with European annexation of those “states” that earned most of their income from the slave trade, such as the Khanate of the Crimea and the Beyliks of North Africa.

    Would this trade have continued if Europe had remained weak? Probably. Would it have eventually become more humane and sustainable? Doubtful. Though often described as “harvesting,” there never was any effort to make it sustainable. A Tatar raid typically left behind the old and the very young, as a Polish report noted: “In the fields and forests they [i.e. the Tatars] left behind over 200 poor children whom they could not take along since everyone preferred to take horses and oxen rather than children” (Kolodziejczyk, 2006).

    The result was widespread depopulation of much of Ukraine and southern Russia, which in turn forced the Tatars to raid farther and farther afield, even as far as present-day Poland. Demographic wastage was considerable:

    The Crimean Tatar society was based on raiding the neighbouring Slavic and Caucasian sedentary societies and selling the captives into the slave markets of Eurasia. Approximately 75 percent of the Crimean population consisted of slaves or freedmen, and much of the free population was highly predatory, engaged either in the gathering of slaves or in the selling of them. It is known that for every slave the Crimeans sold in the market, they killed outright several other people during their raids, and a couple more died on the way to the slave market. (Britannica, 2013)

    There was no resource management, only resource depletion (Wikipedia, 2013). As Kolodziejczyk (2006) notes:

    We should not close our eyes to the consequences of depopulation, affecting large Slavic territories in Eastern Europe. If an “alternative” history of Ukraine were imaginable, perhaps the country’s historical development would have looked different had it not been for the slave trade
     
    .

    Ukraine is considered to be part of ‘Old Europe’ yet the plains north of the Black Sea were finally opened for settlement at about the same time as the plains of the United States and Canada.
     
    Peter Turchin's hypothesis is settlers on the steppe frontier, subject to woman stealing attacks by mounted hordes were forced to form what eventually became empires . Volha Charnysh ( Ford Career Development Associate Professor of Political Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology) has a closely related argument about predatory pastoralist raids causing state formation. If Putin had paid attention to the origin of what is especially the Ukrainians' national psyche, then he would have realised they were an opponent best avoided.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    I think the history of the Crimean slave trade is an important reason why Russia would not and could not give Crimea to the West. Something vaguely similar is the USA fighting the Barbary Pirates in North Africa which is one of the founding episodes of the US Marine Corps mythos. I am always a bit surprised Russia gets along with the Turks. There is lots of history in the Black Sea.

  806. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC

    Maybe this is disgraceful (but so is virtually everything in modern West), but I simply stay away from this. I use lentiviral vectors and AAVs, they do exactly what they are supposed to do in living mice, and that’s what I care about.

    Personally, I have very little hope for the Western societies: the disease is too advanced to expect a cure. At present stage it looks terminal to me. But the scientific findings I am making and will hopefully make will be useful for humans long after the US-dominated world order crashes and burns.

    Replies: @Sean, @QCIC

    I didn’t mean to press you on this HIV topic, it was just a coincidence with the Barrett interview and ENR asking about it. Please stay focussed on your own scientific adventures!

  807. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    I think the disposition of Lvov hangs in the balance between the cost of administering this hostile area if they capture it versus the expected nasty terrorist campaign if they do not capture it.
     
    The RF has relevant experience in Chechnya: use selected local bandits to keep the rest of local bandits in check. Banderites are sleazy traitorous bunch, so the RF will have no trouble finding local “Kadyrov”. Another option would be using Poles: they enjoy keeping in check Ukrainian bydło (cattle in Polish).

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    No, we don’t enjoy. Poland has never been a state founded on military aristocracy like Ukraine.
    In Polish historiography you can meet a view that Ukraine was one of the reasons of negative evolution of the Kingdom of Poland since Ukraine funded the great fortunes of magnates/aristocracy – only in Ukraine there was so much free land to take. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was kind of oligarchic from the beginning but Poland was more equal.

    Even now, Ukraine is ruled by oligarchs, who send this cheap grain to Poland from the great areas they leased to some agricultural conglomerates.

    When the war ends, Ukrainians need to get rid of their oligarchs.

    Anyway, such is the nature of the extractory rule by foreign elites – I have been just reading on the history of Crete, and there were 27 uprisings there against harsh Venetian rule! And like in Ukraine, Cretans were Orthodox but Venetians were Catholics, just Venice was the great merchant oligarchy unlike Poland.
    But we are never told this, since Venetians are “good” foreigners and Turks are “bad” ones who took Crete from good Venetians, more or less in the same time when Russians took Ukraine from Poland.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    No, we don’t enjoy.
     
    That leaves using selected Banderite bandits to suppress other Banderite bandits as the only viable option. Worked in Chechnya.

    When the war ends, Ukrainians need to get rid of their oligarchs.
     
    Ukraine had 30 years during which Ukrainian oligarchs stole everything worth stealing on that unfortunate territory. This suggests that Ukrainians are incapable of getting rid of their mega-thieves. When the war ends, the RF will do it for them, regardless of whatever other arrangements will be made. The fact that most Ukrainian mega-thieves sided with the Kiev puppets will fully justify getting rid of them physically in the eyes of the RF citizens.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  808. @QCIC
    @Beckow

    From my perspective, the Russian involvement in Syria in 2015 is an essential part of the Ukraine story. I think they went in for two main reasons, to prepare and train for heavy combat in Ukraine and also to inform the world they were serious about fighting the West. The second reason has two opposing aspects, one was to give the West an incentive to back off in Ukraine, the other is a clue to the West to accelerate the Ukrainian project before Russia has time to prepare. Around the same time the West started the sanctions which led to continuous, though gradual preparations for economic war. Once these things occurred I believe there must have been intense factional struggles within the Kremlin which are probably still churning.

    I think by 2022 Russia was not prepared for the SMO. My opinion is the West was about to spring military moves which had to be fought, taking Crimea being the likely move. At that point waiting and gradually preparing were no longer an option for Russia. Since 2022 the greater sanctions, attacks on Russia soil, huge loss of life on both sides and intense Western antipathy against Russia must have made it easier to prepare for war within Russian society. Easier in the sense that institutional barriers between government factions, oligarchs and outside meddlers are at least partially pushed aside. On the other hand, the major sanctions obviously made most things more difficult economically. The net result over two years is gradual but visible progress by Russia in preparations for expanded efforts in Ukraine and future combat in other locations.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …intense Western antipathy against Russia must have made it easier to prepare for war within Russian society.

    Predictably, so why do it? The only scenario under which the demonization of everything Russian makes sense is an all-out war the West was hoping to win. It is puzzling that Russians didn’t see it.

    I agree that Syria was the test-ground, Russia wanted to show some teeth and assess reaction. But crossing-the-Rubicon moment was Crimea in 2014. The issue in 2022 was that Kiev’s control of Azov coast made Crimea indefensible – Russia quickly took it and the Ukie offensive was about trying to get it back. Donbas is a side show – it is mainly about Crimea.

    There is an old saying that Russians are slow to saddle but fast to ride. Maybe they are now ready. The only way Nato could win is if Russia wouldn’t fight or it collapsed internally. This is a textbook example of turning the success of your project to the enemy – I can’t believe the West was so stupid. But not as stupid as the Ukies…

  809. QCIC says:
    @Sean
    @AnonfromTN


    Personally, I have very little hope for the Western societies: the disease is too advanced to expect a cure.
     
    https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/inequality-total-war-great-leveller

    War is the cure, it reduces inequality and makes society more stable. If the White house activated the Defence Production Act and ordered US businesses to make arms then the workers would have more power. and the wealthy-bloated elite weaker.

    In France, for example, fully 92% of the net decline in the top 1% income share from 1938 to the early 1980s had already occurred by 1945. In the US, more than half of the corresponding net reduction between 1940 and the 1970s took place before 1945, and three-quarters in Canada. In Japan, inequality in 1945 was lower than at any time before or since, and at least by one measure the same was true of Germany in 1950. In the UK, by contrast, wartime equalisation accounted for a somewhat smaller share of the total decline, just as it did in some Nordic countries and in India (Scheidel 2017: 134-7, based on WID).

    Even so, with the single exception of Sweden, in all relevant countries for which we have data, levelling was much more rapid during the war itself.
     

    Replies: @QCIC

    I agree there is no near-term chance of getting back to some nice version of the society we had before, that is gone. There is always hope that a new and improved culture can rise from the ashes, but I would not bet on it at this point. Inmates are running the asylum. This asylum has an interesting structure where the meanest, dumbest and craziest rise to the top.

  810. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    No, we don't enjoy. Poland has never been a state founded on military aristocracy like Ukraine.
    In Polish historiography you can meet a view that Ukraine was one of the reasons of negative evolution of the Kingdom of Poland since Ukraine funded the great fortunes of magnates/aristocracy - only in Ukraine there was so much free land to take. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was kind of oligarchic from the beginning but Poland was more equal.

    Even now, Ukraine is ruled by oligarchs, who send this cheap grain to Poland from the great areas they leased to some agricultural conglomerates.

    When the war ends, Ukrainians need to get rid of their oligarchs.

    Anyway, such is the nature of the extractory rule by foreign elites - I have been just reading on the history of Crete, and there were 27 uprisings there against harsh Venetian rule! And like in Ukraine, Cretans were Orthodox but Venetians were Catholics, just Venice was the great merchant oligarchy unlike Poland.
    But we are never told this, since Venetians are "good" foreigners and Turks are "bad" ones who took Crete from good Venetians, more or less in the same time when Russians took Ukraine from Poland.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    No, we don’t enjoy.

    That leaves using selected Banderite bandits to suppress other Banderite bandits as the only viable option. Worked in Chechnya.

    When the war ends, Ukrainians need to get rid of their oligarchs.

    Ukraine had 30 years during which Ukrainian oligarchs stole everything worth stealing on that unfortunate territory. This suggests that Ukrainians are incapable of getting rid of their mega-thieves. When the war ends, the RF will do it for them, regardless of whatever other arrangements will be made. The fact that most Ukrainian mega-thieves sided with the Kiev puppets will fully justify getting rid of them physically in the eyes of the RF citizens.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    The fact that most Ukrainian mega-thieves sided with the Kiev puppets will fully justify getting rid of them physically in the eyes of the RF citizens.

    The former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych is not of Ukrainian descent and wanted Kiev to be ruled by Russia. He took millions in bribes before fleeing to Russia and his former mansion is now a museum of corruption.

    Which pro-Kiev politician would you say has been worse?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  811. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    ...But Ukraine is not in NATO. Like Iraq has no WMDs.
     
    An interesting although a far-fetched analogy: wars caused by the perception of a possible threat. Let's be generous and assume US-UK feared Iraq's WMDs as much as Russia feared Nato-in-Ukraine.

    Both acted and started wars, but you denounce one and defend the other. Why? Isn't it hypocrisy? US-UK justified their war by fear of Iraq's WMDs, why can't Russia do the same with fear of Nato-in-Ukraine? Let's leave aside the possibility that US-UK and Russia both pretended and had other goals. Both times the wars started by acting against UN Charter.

    What happened to US-UK for its illegal Iraq war? Nothing: the authors were celebrated, people like you lie about it with 'cause WMDs, media tries to forget the hundreds of thousands dead Iraqis.

    US-UK did it first, more Iraqis were killed with shock-n-awe bombing of civilians and cities - Russia hasn't done it yet. With all due respect until the West - that you try to represent here - cleans up its own house they have no standing in Ukraine.

    Don't try the lame escape into 'but, what-aboutism' - rules and laws either apply to all or they don't exist, that's the definition of having rules and laws. US-UK did it first and there were no consequences (Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Libya...). Today we are living in a zero-sum world with no enforceable rules and the stronger side wins. The West threw away the rules-based order, too late to cry over spilled milk...To fix it you will have to first start at home.

    Replies: @AP

    Both acted and started wars, but you denounce one and defend the other. Why? Isn’t it hypocrisy

    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq. What a stupid thing to lie about.

    But you are indeed a hypocrite to complain about the Iraq invasion while defending the invasion of Ukraine.

    US-UK did it first, more Iraqis were killed with shock-n-awe bombing of civilians and cities

    And here you lie again.

    The successful 5 week invasion of Iraq with its shock and awe resulted in 3,200 or 7,300 civilian deaths, depending on source. Per the UN, the Russian invasion of Ukraine has caused far more than 10,000 civilian deaths.

    So no, America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.

    Don’t try the lame escape into ‘but, what-aboutism‘ – rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist

    According to this principle, Ukraine’s actions in Donbas 2014-2021 were therefore justified by Russia’s actions in rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s. And what NATO did in Kosovo/Serbia in 1999 was justified by what Russia did earlier in Transnistria/Moldova in 1990-1992. “Rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist.”

    So you’ll stop complaining about that?

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.
     
    Your favorite source wiki says that they killed between 150k and one million:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    That is two orders of magnitude more than what you claim. How can you be so far off? It only shows fear.


    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq.
     
    What was the "WMDs" narrative you were spinning above? And the "we won" boasts? My point was that the criminal Iraq war was never investigated, its authors were promoted, even celebrated, the media pretends it never happened. If there are no consequences saying that you "opposed it" is empty. Can Russia do the same?

    South Ossetia nad Transnistria were small events where Russia initially went in as peacekeepers - in Georgia's case with UN Security Council approval. It is simply not the same as starting a war against Iraq half-way around the world or bombing civilians in Donbas as Kiev did.

    If you think it is, you just show us that you are even a bigger moron than we thought. Or you are so desperate caught in lies and inconsistency that you will say anything. It is immature.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

  812. Boris Rozhin (under nickname colonelcassad) is trolling again. On his Telegram channel he posted video of the results of a new Russian hit in Odessa, with the following comment: “peacefully burning peaceful warehouse in Odessa where peaceful artillery shells were stored; the fire is accompanied by peaceful secondary detonations”.

    • Replies: @Jazman
    @AnonfromTN

    Lol this is good one perfect for NAFO retards

  813. AP says:
    @QCIC
    @sudden death

    How similar is the interlocking web of power at the top of the contemporary Russia system to that in the Communist and Czarist systems?

    Do many families have lineage through all three eras as often seen in other countries or is it a new set of power brokers/seekers for each era?

    Replies: @AP

    The Communists wiped out much of the higher elite (including degenerate members of the elite who had become Communists), so not much. Although Tolstoy’s family did and still do well.

    Genetics is strong, so the later Soviet elites tended not to be descended from Russian peasants. It tended to be second-tier elites who overcame or laundered their backgrounds,* or elite members of national minorities, (often Caucasian and Jewish) who replaced the old bosses after the Revolution.

    [MORE]

    * I personally know a family of Volga merchants who at the time of the Revolution abandoned their belongings, sailed down to Astrakhsan and from there to Baku, worked in warehouses or some industry as laborers for awhile, reappeared elsewhere in Russia as “proles” and rose far through Party ranks. The last Soviet generation was in Moscow.

  814. @AnonfromTN
    Boris Rozhin (under nickname colonelcassad) is trolling again. On his Telegram channel he posted video of the results of a new Russian hit in Odessa, with the following comment: “peacefully burning peaceful warehouse in Odessa where peaceful artillery shells were stored; the fire is accompanied by peaceful secondary detonations”.

    Replies: @Jazman

    Lol this is good one perfect for NAFO retards

  815. @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Photo ops with Dugin together with Azov making polite chitchat would be like the most bizarre thing to ever see on the internet.
     
    https://image.over-blog.com/C-_Nu8EvZcCef7FXi7fKfw3MH0k=/filters:no_upscale()/image%2F0935939%2F20211211%2Fob_fa648c_olena-semenyaka-005-douguine.jpg

    Her whole scope of reading, with the notable exception of some Ukrainian nationalist authors, is a typical byproduct of the Dugin’s « school of thought ». It’s somewhat darkly amusing to see that the same authors are claimed as inspiration by the Russian Identitarians and the Ukrainian ultra-nationalists. Especially when we see them gladly slaughtering each other on the frontlines.

    And yeah, she looked not bad when she was younger but she didn’t age well. Goth chicks usually don’t.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard

    It’s not the years, it’s the miles.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @QCIC

    Yeah, miles of cocaine lines…



    A most revolutionary drug, was widely used in 1917 as well. It was legal and could be purchased in any Petrograd pharmacy back then. The revolutionary sailors and soldiers used cocaine and pure undiluted alcohol to keep them going. They didn’t have captagon at the time. The resulting historical outcome is well documented. Between 1918 - 1919, Petrograd lost one million people. The Civil War period (which included foreign intervention) reduced Russian Empire population by some 10 million people. That’s an answer to your question about the (lack of) continuity between Imperial and Soviet elites.

    OTOH, there is a continuity between Soviet and RusFedian elites, they are both much connected to the Nomenklatura and the KGB, just addled with some organized crime and ethnic minority or diaspora people. Most of the people in RusFedian elite are Noviop, a significant proportion of these have ancestors whom got close to power in these gloomy days of the Civil War. Chubais, Gaidar, Venediktov… Their name is Legion.

    BTW, the use of cocaine by the Zelensky circle in Ukraine to withstand the pressure is widely known. I think the final results might well be as tragic for Ukraine as the one we have witnessed in the Russian Empire a hundred years ago. Same causes yield same consequences.

    Just say no to drugs…

  816. @sudden death
    @Dmitry


    Because Baltic States are like the equivalent to Norway of the postsoviet states. After the 1990s, Baltic states recovered to multiple times higher GDP per capita than Ukraine.
     
    Recently there was some optimistic snapshot about current politico/economic situation in Lithuania published in Bloomberg, but it was bit surprising to see it also noticing and being quite complimentary to existing trend of apsirational nation building ethos, which is actually rooted in quite strong local ethnonationalism framework:

    The biggest resource the country has, however, is not any particular expertise but its commitment to nation-building. The sense that this is a “golden age” goes along with a sense of vulnerability: Lithuanians are only too conscious that the only way that a tiny country like theirs can survive in a dangerous world is to build a high-tech economy that can outthink and outmaneuver its giant neighbors. Different industry groups are willing to share knowledge and money in order to create flourishing ecosystems. Companies also have an extraordinary ability to reinvent themselves as the situation changes — particularly as the threat of war has grown in recent years.

    To get a sense of the power of nation-building in shaping Lithuanian business, consider two companies in the laser-and-optics world — one an established company and the other a growing start-up.

    https://archive.ph/PPWL1

     

    Replies: @sudden death

  817. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat.
     
    Today it is, but I am skeptical it was the original plan in 2022. Russia went out of its way for 8 years looking for a compromise, they ignored serious provocations and either pretended or really believed in the remaining Western good will.

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn't bring enough power for anything else - they wanted a quick end to "SMS" with Kiev agreeing to neutrality, demilitarization, language rights for Russians in Ukraine.

    Kiev was told by the West to refuse the deal and fight - Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now - after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.

    The tragedy for the Ukies is that they misread the situation, Russia offered them a way out and they instead used it to escalate the war, boasted about winning and taking back Crimea (even Moscow). Now for the horrible consequences. There will not be a deal - either it goes nuclear or Russia will create new reality on the ground. The only question is how far Russia will go - or can go militarily.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @AP

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate.

    So what would you describe the attempts at killing Zelensky? Along with the bounty on his head?

    Was that negotiating?

    Do you believe the leaked plans showing a 2.5 week war are fake?

    Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else – they wanted a quick end to “SMS” with Kiev agreeing to neutrality, demilitarization, language rights for Russians in Ukraine.

    Did you imagine those demands or do you have an actual list from Putin?

    You do realize that Russia ended diplomatic relations with Ukraine?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    I think you are an idiot who is not interested in a rational discussion. That is beyond my power to fix. So enjoy your hallucinations and quoting the Western intelligence leaks that you take as holy word from God...or pretend to. You are either very stupid or argue in bad faith. A waste of time.

    When you decide to be rational and address actual reality and not 'one lady said!!!' self-serving leaks I will respond.

  818. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    No, we don’t enjoy.
     
    That leaves using selected Banderite bandits to suppress other Banderite bandits as the only viable option. Worked in Chechnya.

    When the war ends, Ukrainians need to get rid of their oligarchs.
     
    Ukraine had 30 years during which Ukrainian oligarchs stole everything worth stealing on that unfortunate territory. This suggests that Ukrainians are incapable of getting rid of their mega-thieves. When the war ends, the RF will do it for them, regardless of whatever other arrangements will be made. The fact that most Ukrainian mega-thieves sided with the Kiev puppets will fully justify getting rid of them physically in the eyes of the RF citizens.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The fact that most Ukrainian mega-thieves sided with the Kiev puppets will fully justify getting rid of them physically in the eyes of the RF citizens.

    The former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych is not of Ukrainian descent and wanted Kiev to be ruled by Russia. He took millions in bribes before fleeing to Russia and his former mansion is now a museum of corruption.

    Which pro-Kiev politician would you say has been worse?

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    What do you mean by Yanukovitch not being of Ukrainian descent?

    Replies: @AP

  819. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...The war is being used by the Kremlin to foster internal change within Russia. This process seems to be one factor setting the gradual pace of combat.
     
    Today it is, but I am skeptical it was the original plan in 2022. Russia went out of its way for 8 years looking for a compromise, they ignored serious provocations and either pretended or really believed in the remaining Western good will.

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn't bring enough power for anything else - they wanted a quick end to "SMS" with Kiev agreeing to neutrality, demilitarization, language rights for Russians in Ukraine.

    Kiev was told by the West to refuse the deal and fight - Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now - after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.

    The tragedy for the Ukies is that they misread the situation, Russia offered them a way out and they instead used it to escalate the war, boasted about winning and taking back Crimea (even Moscow). Now for the horrible consequences. There will not be a deal - either it goes nuclear or Russia will create new reality on the ground. The only question is how far Russia will go - or can go militarily.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @AP

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else

    It’s funny how you lie to yourself.

    If America failed in Iraq as Russia has failed in Ukraine, some American “Beckow” would say that of course it was only an attempt at gunboat diplomacy and to take some land and negotiate WMDs or whatever. Such an American “Beckow” would insist that America never planned to take over Iraq because it only brought 450,000 troops compared to the 1.1 million man Iraqi army defending cities such as Baghdad (population around 5 million in 2003 IIRC).

    It’s funny Beckow, because you yourself predicted that Russia’s force would conquer Ukraine quickly. You gloated that the Ukrainian leadership would flee, and the Ukrainian soldiers would surrender rather than face arrest later.

    That is actually something the Russians apparently believed. It’s why their troops outside Kiev had parade uniforms, and they brought a lot of riot police with them. They were expecting something in the range of Czechoslovakia 1968, Georgia 2008 (except they wouldn’t stop), or Iraq 2003.

    And it’s why in the first days of the war they were all excitedly predicted how Ukraine would fall in a few weeks. Have you forgotten? Putin sycophants like MacGregor or Ritter were claiming any month Ukraine would fall.

    But now you say they never tried to conquer Ukraine after all, of course it would be stupid to expect that 300,000 Russian + Donbas troops could defeat 300,000 Ukrainian ones and take over the country.

    It’s funny to see you flail around, changing your story, about this and other things.

    Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now – after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.

    Like Poland 1920, or Japan 1905?

    As long as Russia has hope that the West will walk away (and it will have this hope at least until 2025) it will not back down – that would be a stupid thing to do. But then? A face-saving deal versus eternal sanctions and losing 50k dead every year becomes very possible. Ukraine may be in NATO, but Crimea (and maybe even a land corridor) is forever theirs, they have captured Mariupol, hurrah.

    • Agree: sudden death
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    If Russia ever feels cornered and at risk of being driven out (per your view), what prevents her from greatly increasing the scale of missile strikes and aerial bombardments as a step to more rapidly destroying Kiev's ability to fight? We have seen this process escalate in the past couple of months but it seems Russia is still playing it gradually. I think they are waiting for capitulation while preserving Ukrainian civilians and infrastructure as much as circumstances allow. I think they are also very slowly improving their conventional forces all around, not just for Ukraine, but for other contingencies. The longer this drags on the more likely it is the West will do something foolish on a new front. When Russia eventually does get ready for the coup de grace on the AFU I think they need three large forces ready to go, plus a fully staffed military ready to protect the rest of Russia. The three groups I envision are 1) the fighters actually wrapping up and rounding up all AFU, 2) a major group dedicated to directly fighting inside Western Ukraine and 3) a final group that is a transition team supporting the creation of the new government and social order, filling in for what has been destroyed in combat. I think the first group is what they have now. The second two groups need several hundred thousand additional people we have not seen yet. How can it be otherwise? They cannot steal these people from the rest of the standing Army in Russia or they will have gaps.

    , @Beckow
    @AP


    ...face-saving deal versus eternal sanctions and losing 50k dead every year becomes very possible. Ukraine may be in NATO, but Crimea (and maybe even a land corridor) is forever theirs, they have captured Mariupol
     
    The rump-Ukraine will not be in Nato, that's what the war is about. And the lands directly taken by Russia will probably be larger. That would be a Russian win.

    I don't think Russia cares much for the sanctions - they are hurting Europe at least as much and it helps the current government to minimize interactions with the West.

    Let's say there are negotiations, what can the West offer to Russia that is substantive? Promises and bullsh..t about "you will be in our prestigeous club" are worthless. And the West break its treaties and promises. What can they offer to prevent Russia from taking it all?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Derer
    @AP

    You can excrete your verbal diarrhea on these pages all you want but the fact remains that Ukraine is and will remain the Russian sphere of influence. They are both Slavic cousins and both are pathologically hated by the West.

    The Ukraine's foreign anti-Slavic gang (Operation Nuland) is in power only temporary. Undoubtedly, they will flee to hide in fear of victor's punishment. There won't be a secure place for them.

  820. @AP
    @Beckow


    Both acted and started wars, but you denounce one and defend the other. Why? Isn’t it hypocrisy
     
    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq. What a stupid thing to lie about.

    But you are indeed a hypocrite to complain about the Iraq invasion while defending the invasion of Ukraine.

    US-UK did it first, more Iraqis were killed with shock-n-awe bombing of civilians and cities
     
    And here you lie again.

    The successful 5 week invasion of Iraq with its shock and awe resulted in 3,200 or 7,300 civilian deaths, depending on source. Per the UN, the Russian invasion of Ukraine has caused far more than 10,000 civilian deaths.

    So no, America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.

    Don’t try the lame escape into ‘but, what-aboutism‘ – rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist
     
    According to this principle, Ukraine’s actions in Donbas 2014-2021 were therefore justified by Russia’s actions in rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s. And what NATO did in Kosovo/Serbia in 1999 was justified by what Russia did earlier in Transnistria/Moldova in 1990-1992. “Rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist.”

    So you’ll stop complaining about that?

    Replies: @Beckow

    America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.

    Your favorite source wiki says that they killed between 150k and one million:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    That is two orders of magnitude more than what you claim. How can you be so far off? It only shows fear.

    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq.

    What was the “WMDs” narrative you were spinning above? And the “we won” boasts? My point was that the criminal Iraq war was never investigated, its authors were promoted, even celebrated, the media pretends it never happened. If there are no consequences saying that you “opposed it” is empty. Can Russia do the same?

    South Ossetia nad Transnistria were small events where Russia initially went in as peacekeepers – in Georgia’s case with UN Security Council approval. It is simply not the same as starting a war against Iraq half-way around the world or bombing civilians in Donbas as Kiev did.

    If you think it is, you just show us that you are even a bigger moron than we thought. Or you are so desperate caught in lies and inconsistency that you will say anything. It is immature.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Beckow


    According to this principle, Ukraine’s actions in Donbas 2014-2021 were therefore justified by Russia’s actions in rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s. And what NATO did in Kosovo/Serbia in 1999 was justified by what Russia did earlier in Transnistria/Moldova in 1990-1992. “Rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist.”
     
    How Motylesque. Chechnya is now at peace within Russia with Chechens among Russia's most competent of forces in the SMO. There's perhaps hope yet for the part of former Ukrainian SSR territory under Kiev regime control - at least some of it maybe.

    ;)

    NATO's aggression against Yugoslavia included the recognition of an independent Kosovo, contradicting UNSCR 1244. Russia hasn't recognized Pridnestrovie's independence and intent to reunite with Russia. Pridnestrovie wasn't part of Romania between two world wars unlike Moldova. It was forcefully put into the Moldavian SSR. Moldova had a right to leave the USSR. Stands to reason that Pridnestrovie has a reasoned basis to choose otherwise.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.


    Your favorite source wiki says that they killed between 150k and one million
     
    No it doesn’t. Why do you lie about something for which there is a link that you provided?

    American bombing during the shock and awe invasion of 2003 killed between 3,200 and 7,300 Iraqis:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

    It’s also in the same link you provided.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    Did you forget how to read?

    The 150,000-1 million figure (first number anee those killed violently, latter includes deaths from illness or disease) includes the deaths of Iraqis at the hands of other Iraqi during civil wars following the invasion. Indeed your own link stated 12% of those killed were by coalition forces.

    Once again, you were caught lying, so you try to change the subject.

    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq.

    What was the “WMDs” narrative you were spinning above

     

    Beckow: too dumb to understand that I compared the American WMD excuse to the equally dumb Russian NATO excuse.

    And the “we won” boasts

     

    Stating the banal fact that America won the war is not the same as defending the criminal invasion.

    Germany defeated Poland in 1939. Does stating that defend the criminal invasion of Poland?

    It is simply not the same as starting a war against Iraq half-way around the world or bombing civilians in Donbas as Kiev did.

     

    Your midwit (at best) mind got confused again. The precedent for Kiev bombing rebellious Donbas in 2014 was Russia bombing rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s.

    Transdnistria was the precedent for Kosovo.

    you are so desperate caught in lies and inconsistency that you will say anything
     
    You’ve described yourself very well, as we see above. The best thing you wrote in that post. Congratulations.

    Replies: @Beckow

  821. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate.

    So what would you describe the attempts at killing Zelensky? Along with the bounty on his head?

    Was that negotiating?

    Do you believe the leaked plans showing a 2.5 week war are fake?

    Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else – they wanted a quick end to “SMS” with Kiev agreeing to neutrality, demilitarization, language rights for Russians in Ukraine.

    Did you imagine those demands or do you have an actual list from Putin?

    You do realize that Russia ended diplomatic relations with Ukraine?

    Replies: @Beckow

    I think you are an idiot who is not interested in a rational discussion. That is beyond my power to fix. So enjoy your hallucinations and quoting the Western intelligence leaks that you take as holy word from God…or pretend to. You are either very stupid or argue in bad faith. A waste of time.

    When you decide to be rational and address actual reality and not ‘one lady said!!!’ self-serving leaks I will respond.

    • Agree: Mikhail
  822. @Beckow
    @AP


    America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.
     
    Your favorite source wiki says that they killed between 150k and one million:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    That is two orders of magnitude more than what you claim. How can you be so far off? It only shows fear.


    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq.
     
    What was the "WMDs" narrative you were spinning above? And the "we won" boasts? My point was that the criminal Iraq war was never investigated, its authors were promoted, even celebrated, the media pretends it never happened. If there are no consequences saying that you "opposed it" is empty. Can Russia do the same?

    South Ossetia nad Transnistria were small events where Russia initially went in as peacekeepers - in Georgia's case with UN Security Council approval. It is simply not the same as starting a war against Iraq half-way around the world or bombing civilians in Donbas as Kiev did.

    If you think it is, you just show us that you are even a bigger moron than we thought. Or you are so desperate caught in lies and inconsistency that you will say anything. It is immature.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    According to this principle, Ukraine’s actions in Donbas 2014-2021 were therefore justified by Russia’s actions in rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s. And what NATO did in Kosovo/Serbia in 1999 was justified by what Russia did earlier in Transnistria/Moldova in 1990-1992. “Rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist.”

    How Motylesque. Chechnya is now at peace within Russia with Chechens among Russia’s most competent of forces in the SMO. There’s perhaps hope yet for the part of former Ukrainian SSR territory under Kiev regime control – at least some of it maybe.

    😉

    NATO’s aggression against Yugoslavia included the recognition of an independent Kosovo, contradicting UNSCR 1244. Russia hasn’t recognized Pridnestrovie’s independence and intent to reunite with Russia. Pridnestrovie wasn’t part of Romania between two world wars unlike Moldova. It was forcefully put into the Moldavian SSR. Moldova had a right to leave the USSR. Stands to reason that Pridnestrovie has a reasoned basis to choose otherwise.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    ...NATO’s aggression against Yugoslavia included the recognition of an independent Kosovo, contradicting UNSCR 1244.
     
    It was the original sin in 1999, it has been a downward spiral since then.

    I point out the hypocrisy and inconsistency but I don't think it matters any more. The two sides are not talking, arguments have been superseded by the brute force. It is mostly Western fault, but even if others contributed it makes no difference today.

    The more salient point is that it was in West's overriding interest to keep the world away from sliding into brute force. But to have values, laws and rules requires that the self-appointed masters also observe them. They didn't. I am pretty sure they would like to go back and redo some of the crazy stuff based on their stupid hubris. It doesn't work that way.

    There is no deal possible today in Ukraine, the two sides are not only too far apart, they are also in an existential way not able to let go. Either one side wins completely or we go to nukes. The Westies are starting to realize it and their panic is not a pretty picture... we even see some of it here.

  823. Somehow I missed this but the French/Netflix adapted Lupin to TV, and it stars that Fulani guy who was in the Intouchables.

    TBH, have never been a fan of the Lupin stories, Monsieur Lecoq is better IMO. But it is very strange and remarkable that Lupin, who is considered an iconic French character is a Fulani, while the British icon Doctor Who (also not a fan) is a gay Tutsi.

    I suppose technically he is not supposed to be Lupin but a character who is inspired by the Lupin stories, but it is still pretty ridiculous.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupin_(French_TV_series)

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird

    I remember I watched a few minutes of that soon after it came out. I didn't know the background about it being inspired by the Lupin stories, rather than a straightforward black version of Lupin.

    For some reason it didn't catch my attention and I was wondering why they had made Lupin an African, but I think you get used to this phenomena if you are aware of BBC and Netflix output and casting choices in the last few years.

    I never got into the original Lupin stories either, but I did like Raffles, the British version of Lupin. A long time ago the BBC made some good radio dramatisations of the Raffles stories.

  824. • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    The Challenger 3 is the upgrade to finally get rid of the archaic rifled cannon. Everything else is probably standard upgrades which all sides do.

    The best Western tanks for Ukraine might be the French Leclerc (UAE version) and the Korean Black panther. Both have an autoloader and 3 man crew so are slightly smaller and more mobile than the largest tanks like M1, Leo and Challenger. The autoloader ammo storage arrangement is much safer than the Russian and Ukrainian storage systems. For top protection which is now mandatory all tanks require either active protection systems (APS) like Trophy or some version of cope cages. If they don't have this the leadership is not serious about getting these tanks bloody in a stand up fight. The problem is that the APS is the most expensive subsystem. Additionally, both sides may be keeping this hardware out of the fight as long as possible so countermeasures are not developed before the MIC (also on all sides) can sell a bunch of this expensive and fragile-looking gear.

    The Leclerc never sold very well so it may have some serious flaw which is downplayed. On the other hand, Poland has a bunch of Black Panthers so we may find out how well they actually work.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Wokechoke

  825. @Mikhail
    @Beckow


    According to this principle, Ukraine’s actions in Donbas 2014-2021 were therefore justified by Russia’s actions in rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s. And what NATO did in Kosovo/Serbia in 1999 was justified by what Russia did earlier in Transnistria/Moldova in 1990-1992. “Rules and laws either apply to all or they don’t exist.”
     
    How Motylesque. Chechnya is now at peace within Russia with Chechens among Russia's most competent of forces in the SMO. There's perhaps hope yet for the part of former Ukrainian SSR territory under Kiev regime control - at least some of it maybe.

    ;)

    NATO's aggression against Yugoslavia included the recognition of an independent Kosovo, contradicting UNSCR 1244. Russia hasn't recognized Pridnestrovie's independence and intent to reunite with Russia. Pridnestrovie wasn't part of Romania between two world wars unlike Moldova. It was forcefully put into the Moldavian SSR. Moldova had a right to leave the USSR. Stands to reason that Pridnestrovie has a reasoned basis to choose otherwise.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …NATO’s aggression against Yugoslavia included the recognition of an independent Kosovo, contradicting UNSCR 1244.

    It was the original sin in 1999, it has been a downward spiral since then.

    I point out the hypocrisy and inconsistency but I don’t think it matters any more. The two sides are not talking, arguments have been superseded by the brute force. It is mostly Western fault, but even if others contributed it makes no difference today.

    The more salient point is that it was in West’s overriding interest to keep the world away from sliding into brute force. But to have values, laws and rules requires that the self-appointed masters also observe them. They didn’t. I am pretty sure they would like to go back and redo some of the crazy stuff based on their stupid hubris. It doesn’t work that way.

    There is no deal possible today in Ukraine, the two sides are not only too far apart, they are also in an existential way not able to let go. Either one side wins completely or we go to nukes. The Westies are starting to realize it and their panic is not a pretty picture… we even see some of it here.

  826. QCIC says:
    @AP
    @Beckow


    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else
     
    It's funny how you lie to yourself.

    If America failed in Iraq as Russia has failed in Ukraine, some American "Beckow" would say that of course it was only an attempt at gunboat diplomacy and to take some land and negotiate WMDs or whatever. Such an American "Beckow" would insist that America never planned to take over Iraq because it only brought 450,000 troops compared to the 1.1 million man Iraqi army defending cities such as Baghdad (population around 5 million in 2003 IIRC).

    It's funny Beckow, because you yourself predicted that Russia's force would conquer Ukraine quickly. You gloated that the Ukrainian leadership would flee, and the Ukrainian soldiers would surrender rather than face arrest later.

    That is actually something the Russians apparently believed. It's why their troops outside Kiev had parade uniforms, and they brought a lot of riot police with them. They were expecting something in the range of Czechoslovakia 1968, Georgia 2008 (except they wouldn't stop), or Iraq 2003.

    And it's why in the first days of the war they were all excitedly predicted how Ukraine would fall in a few weeks. Have you forgotten? Putin sycophants like MacGregor or Ritter were claiming any month Ukraine would fall.

    But now you say they never tried to conquer Ukraine after all, of course it would be stupid to expect that 300,000 Russian + Donbas troops could defeat 300,000 Ukrainian ones and take over the country.

    It's funny to see you flail around, changing your story, about this and other things.


    Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now – after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.
     
    Like Poland 1920, or Japan 1905?

    As long as Russia has hope that the West will walk away (and it will have this hope at least until 2025) it will not back down - that would be a stupid thing to do. But then? A face-saving deal versus eternal sanctions and losing 50k dead every year becomes very possible. Ukraine may be in NATO, but Crimea (and maybe even a land corridor) is forever theirs, they have captured Mariupol, hurrah.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow, @Derer

    If Russia ever feels cornered and at risk of being driven out (per your view), what prevents her from greatly increasing the scale of missile strikes and aerial bombardments as a step to more rapidly destroying Kiev’s ability to fight? We have seen this process escalate in the past couple of months but it seems Russia is still playing it gradually. I think they are waiting for capitulation while preserving Ukrainian civilians and infrastructure as much as circumstances allow. I think they are also very slowly improving their conventional forces all around, not just for Ukraine, but for other contingencies. The longer this drags on the more likely it is the West will do something foolish on a new front. When Russia eventually does get ready for the coup de grace on the AFU I think they need three large forces ready to go, plus a fully staffed military ready to protect the rest of Russia. The three groups I envision are 1) the fighters actually wrapping up and rounding up all AFU, 2) a major group dedicated to directly fighting inside Western Ukraine and 3) a final group that is a transition team supporting the creation of the new government and social order, filling in for what has been destroyed in combat. I think the first group is what they have now. The second two groups need several hundred thousand additional people we have not seen yet. How can it be otherwise? They cannot steal these people from the rest of the standing Army in Russia or they will have gaps.

  827. @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Photo ops with Dugin together with Azov making polite chitchat would be like the most bizarre thing to ever see on the internet.
     
    https://image.over-blog.com/C-_Nu8EvZcCef7FXi7fKfw3MH0k=/filters:no_upscale()/image%2F0935939%2F20211211%2Fob_fa648c_olena-semenyaka-005-douguine.jpg

    Her whole scope of reading, with the notable exception of some Ukrainian nationalist authors, is a typical byproduct of the Dugin’s « school of thought ». It’s somewhat darkly amusing to see that the same authors are claimed as inspiration by the Russian Identitarians and the Ukrainian ultra-nationalists. Especially when we see them gladly slaughtering each other on the frontlines.

    And yeah, she looked not bad when she was younger but she didn’t age well. Goth chicks usually don’t.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard

    OK I have read first 20 pp of Arnold Alexander Dugin and the Yuzhinsky Circle and so far it is pretty good.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Look into Golovin, he was a unique individual. It’s a shame that he is not better known. He was their “spiritual mentor “, Dugin once said that “Golovin is a god” (aoodoo bil’Lah from this filthy Russian schirk !). Golovin was an exceptionally gifted individual and he was psychologically strong enough to go against the Soviet way of life, against all its moral and social norms. When Mamleev was exiled from the Soviet Union, Golovin became the de facto guru of that circle.

    https://golovinfond.ru/

    That is site has been created by the Dugin’s Eurasianist movement members. And when we see that people such as Olena Semeniaka are borderline left hand path folks, we shouldn’t be surprised, because Golovin rejected outright the distinction between left and right hand paths. For him it was just all human misconceptions. And perhaps he was right about that.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

  828. QCIC says:
    @Mikhail
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4Vfa_xZP5g

    Replies: @QCIC

    The Challenger 3 is the upgrade to finally get rid of the archaic rifled cannon. Everything else is probably standard upgrades which all sides do.

    The best Western tanks for Ukraine might be the French Leclerc (UAE version) and the Korean Black panther. Both have an autoloader and 3 man crew so are slightly smaller and more mobile than the largest tanks like M1, Leo and Challenger. The autoloader ammo storage arrangement is much safer than the Russian and Ukrainian storage systems. For top protection which is now mandatory all tanks require either active protection systems (APS) like Trophy or some version of cope cages. If they don’t have this the leadership is not serious about getting these tanks bloody in a stand up fight. The problem is that the APS is the most expensive subsystem. Additionally, both sides may be keeping this hardware out of the fight as long as possible so countermeasures are not developed before the MIC (also on all sides) can sell a bunch of this expensive and fragile-looking gear.

    The Leclerc never sold very well so it may have some serious flaw which is downplayed. On the other hand, Poland has a bunch of Black Panthers so we may find out how well they actually work.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @QCIC


    The Challenger 3 is the upgrade to finally get rid of the archaic rifled cannon. Everything else is probably standard upgrades which all sides do.

    The best Western tanks for Ukraine might be the French Leclerc (UAE version) and the Korean Black panther. Both have an autoloader and 3 man crew so are slightly smaller and more mobile than the largest tanks like M1, Leo and Challenger. The autoloader ammo storage arrangement is much safer than the Russian and Ukrainian storage systems. For top protection which is now mandatory all tanks require either active protection systems (APS) like Trophy or some version of cope cages. If they don’t have this the leadership is not serious about getting these tanks bloody in a stand up fight. The problem is that the APS is the most expensive subsystem. Additionally, both sides may be keeping this hardware out of the fight as long as possible so countermeasures are not developed before the MIC (also on all sides) can sell a bunch of this expensive and fragile-looking gear.

    The Leclerc never sold very well so it may have some serious flaw which is downplayed. On the other hand, Poland has a bunch of Black Panthers so we may find out how well they actually work.

     

    Kiev regime lacking air cover for them, along with experienced crews with these vehicles. Russia has gotten militarily stronger with the Kiev regime going the opposite direction. Don't be surprised if these tanks don't fare any better
    , @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    The ideal tank would probably be a drone hub. Fast moving and nimble with a couple of guys who can control an array of drones on the move. A mothership for a swarm of bomb tossing quads with its own chain gun for shooting down opposing drones.


    Unmanned Aircraft Tracked Carrier?


    It’s time for a new Fuller or Guderian.

    Replies: @QCIC

  829. @AP
    @Beckow


    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else
     
    It's funny how you lie to yourself.

    If America failed in Iraq as Russia has failed in Ukraine, some American "Beckow" would say that of course it was only an attempt at gunboat diplomacy and to take some land and negotiate WMDs or whatever. Such an American "Beckow" would insist that America never planned to take over Iraq because it only brought 450,000 troops compared to the 1.1 million man Iraqi army defending cities such as Baghdad (population around 5 million in 2003 IIRC).

    It's funny Beckow, because you yourself predicted that Russia's force would conquer Ukraine quickly. You gloated that the Ukrainian leadership would flee, and the Ukrainian soldiers would surrender rather than face arrest later.

    That is actually something the Russians apparently believed. It's why their troops outside Kiev had parade uniforms, and they brought a lot of riot police with them. They were expecting something in the range of Czechoslovakia 1968, Georgia 2008 (except they wouldn't stop), or Iraq 2003.

    And it's why in the first days of the war they were all excitedly predicted how Ukraine would fall in a few weeks. Have you forgotten? Putin sycophants like MacGregor or Ritter were claiming any month Ukraine would fall.

    But now you say they never tried to conquer Ukraine after all, of course it would be stupid to expect that 300,000 Russian + Donbas troops could defeat 300,000 Ukrainian ones and take over the country.

    It's funny to see you flail around, changing your story, about this and other things.


    Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now – after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.
     
    Like Poland 1920, or Japan 1905?

    As long as Russia has hope that the West will walk away (and it will have this hope at least until 2025) it will not back down - that would be a stupid thing to do. But then? A face-saving deal versus eternal sanctions and losing 50k dead every year becomes very possible. Ukraine may be in NATO, but Crimea (and maybe even a land corridor) is forever theirs, they have captured Mariupol, hurrah.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow, @Derer

    …face-saving deal versus eternal sanctions and losing 50k dead every year becomes very possible. Ukraine may be in NATO, but Crimea (and maybe even a land corridor) is forever theirs, they have captured Mariupol

    The rump-Ukraine will not be in Nato, that’s what the war is about. And the lands directly taken by Russia will probably be larger. That would be a Russian win.

    I don’t think Russia cares much for the sanctions – they are hurting Europe at least as much and it helps the current government to minimize interactions with the West.

    Let’s say there are negotiations, what can the West offer to Russia that is substantive? Promises and bullsh..t about “you will be in our prestigeous club” are worthless. And the West break its treaties and promises. What can they offer to prevent Russia from taking it all?

    • Agree: Derer
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    What can they offer to prevent Russia from taking it all?
     
    The West can’t offer anything because it convincingly proved itself to be non-agreement-capable. I am not privy to the plans of the RF leadership. Based on my limited info, the RF will take what is necessary (the whole Black sea coast) and maybe some parts of Eastern Ukraine it won’t be able to refuse. On the rest of the territory of former Ukraine the RF will install controlled regime that will maintain this rump Ukraine neutral and demilitarized. Needless to say, it won’t recognize any debt obligations of current Kiev puppets. I might be wrong, and the RF leadership might decide that it’s safer to absorb the whole thing one way or another. I do not favor this option: there is enough shit in Russia as it is (even though a lot of shit left in 2022, too much remain or are returning), it does not need any more.
  830. Full race FIA WEC 6 Hours of Imola

    Rain after half distance added excitement.

    PEACE 😇

  831. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    The fact that most Ukrainian mega-thieves sided with the Kiev puppets will fully justify getting rid of them physically in the eyes of the RF citizens.

    The former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych is not of Ukrainian descent and wanted Kiev to be ruled by Russia. He took millions in bribes before fleeing to Russia and his former mansion is now a museum of corruption.

    Which pro-Kiev politician would you say has been worse?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    What do you mean by Yanukovitch not being of Ukrainian descent?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Bashibuzuk

    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN

  832. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    OK I have read first 20 pp of Arnold Alexander Dugin and the Yuzhinsky Circle and so far it is pretty good.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Look into Golovin, he was a unique individual. It’s a shame that he is not better known. He was their “spiritual mentor “, Dugin once said that “Golovin is a god” (aoodoo bil’Lah from this filthy Russian schirk !). Golovin was an exceptionally gifted individual and he was psychologically strong enough to go against the Soviet way of life, against all its moral and social norms. When Mamleev was exiled from the Soviet Union, Golovin became the de facto guru of that circle.

    https://golovinfond.ru/

    That is site has been created by the Dugin’s Eurasianist movement members. And when we see that people such as Olena Semeniaka are borderline left hand path folks, we shouldn’t be surprised, because Golovin rejected outright the distinction between left and right hand paths. For him it was just all human misconceptions. And perhaps he was right about that.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    As you probably know, Dugin's books have been banned in the US. I've never read any of his books and am looking for opportunities to do so, preferably in English. Even Ron Unz doesn't provide any of his faire within his banned book project https://www.unz.com/book/, A quick perusal of JSTOR only shows articles related to Dugin? Any help is appreciated.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    On page 31 Arnold says the movement was based on library books.


    Mamleev cited 25 such sources of the occult underground - in Russian, English, and German - that he encountered in the 1950’s. Among them figure five by the founder of Anthroposophy Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925), two by the founder of Theosophy, the Russian-born Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-1891), four by the major French occultist Papus (Gérard Encausse, 1865-1916), two by the “founding father of occultism”, Eliphas Lévi (Alphonse-Louis Constant, 1810-1875), as well as works by the
    “dissident Theosophist” Édouard Schuré (1841-1929), the occultist “philosopher of mysticism” Du Prel (Karl Freiherr von Prel, 1839-1899), George Ivanovich Gurdjieff (1866-1949), Piotr Ouspensky (1878-1947), Carl Jung (1875-1961), and others.
     
    The cult of New York Times hates Anthroposophy in modern U. S. They are purportedly a bunch of anti-vaxer morons. In any case that is worth noting Steiner is number one on the list. He was murdered. Presumably by a rival cult who takes all this stuff way too seriously, but possibly by the German Nazi Party who considered all other cults mortal enemies. I haven't read Schure or Prel. I'm not seeing any proper Nihilism here.

    Binge drinking is a feature. That is definitely more Gurdjieff than Steiner.

    The genesis is these books were in the Soviet library and not censored and these free spirits were working with what was available. It was not a group of Anthroposophists. It was a group of guys for whom that type book was an entry point into a universe which was not as dull as the Soviet system career they were groomed for.

    Arnold says Golovin took the scene over and he was a great Nihilist.

    Have you read Morning of the Magicians? That book was regarded with great disdain by my first esoteric teachers. Pure poppycock. I finally got around to reading it 4 or 5 years ago and it is a marvelous book.

    Anyway at this point I am only half way through Arnold's masters thesis. It is entertaining as hell. As for practical applications though this stuff is gobbledygook. There is no chance Putin and cronies have read Dugin in all of his glory.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  833. @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    ANTI-Finland in philosophy
     
    Therefore me not promoting that bad example as worthy of following, but instead praising Finland, which did the right thing;) What should have been done, but wasn't done succesfully during interwar era - forming local Baltic common defensive entente+building defensive fortifications all over the places there, so when the push came to shove there was nothing to show in practic regretably, but only to wave in the air useless previous neutrality proclamations.

    However Soviets were pushed out by Lithuanian army back in 1920 and had to sign official peace treaty where Vilnius and overall way more lands were recognized as belonging to Lithuania than it was returned in 1939, so they even broke their own signed treaty subsequently. As usual;)


    British and other forced Czechoslovakia to accept that aggreement. Brits and others were very much involved with Finland Nazis refusing Soviet generous offer. How can Soviet behaviour be equated with Nazis immediate behavior to developed as soon as Hitler became Chancellor?
     
    Hitler came in power in 1932, but decided to break freshly signed 1938 autumn Munich agreement in 1939 spring, so there was nothing immediate. On the contrary, what Hitler did immediately - he backed off from traditional German nationalistic anti-Poland rhetorics in 1934, cause he personally respected Pilsudski for his anti-commie stance and being overly personalistic in behaviour, gradually soured on Poland since Pilsudski died in 1935.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Gerard1234

    forming local Baltic common defensive entente

    The Baltics….. are any of them are going to build a navy of any military strength in those 20 years? Zero chance

    What are the Baltic states united by in those years ( or even now?) to make alliance possible? New, very insecure, lowlife states controlled by Russia for the previous 200 years. All crypto-German-cocksuckers. Impractical and unknown in those years if some pan-Baltic alliance would hold together. All 3 states getting formed after 1917 were completely separate military campaigns – not interlocked as many of the Latin American states wars for Independence . Zero chance that one of these Baltic pricks would not break any alliance.

    building defensive fortifications all over the places there

    Germany, Poland and the Soviets – build defensive fortifications to repel all 3 of them? How much of the country is closed-off from doing that? How exactly would that give Lithuania back Vilnius or receive gift from the Soviets of Druskininkai? It wouldn’t.
    Though to be fair – Lithuania as the “self-reliant” North Korea of Europe, sounds suitable title, LOL.

    Russian railway gauge in Litva is an important thing now…….in the 1920s,30s,40s its an absolutely gigantic issue in comparison. Simply impossible to not be a significant trade parter and export/import route of the Soviet Union with this railway gauge and network. It’s at least 20-30 years and significant money to change that to standard gauge network.

    As the Baltics were all corrupt, fascist dictatorships – to invest in deterring external enemies when internal instability still significant, and society in each 3 of them nowhere near as consolidated to the leaders as in Nazi Germany ( where fascist dictatorship also, but all internal enemies already killed) – would again be problem.

    However Soviets were pushed out by Lithuanian army back in 1920 and had to sign official peace treaty where Vilnius and overall way more lands were recognized as belonging to Lithuania than it was returned in 1939, so they even broke their own signed treaty subsequently. As usual;)

    As mentioned in response to you by some excellent commentators – those were territories the Poles took, and Lithuania recognised ( by threat from Nazi Poland) as Polish territory in 1938. How any pitiful cretin could then try and blame instead of thank the Soviets for giving much land to the Lithuanians – is incredible. Lunatic to be precise.

  834. Derer says:
    @AP
    @Beckow


    The original SMS in February 2022 was a classical attempt at gunboat diplomacy: bring some heavy guns, shoot up a few places, take some land, but keep it small and then negotiate. Russia didn’t bring enough power for anything else
     
    It's funny how you lie to yourself.

    If America failed in Iraq as Russia has failed in Ukraine, some American "Beckow" would say that of course it was only an attempt at gunboat diplomacy and to take some land and negotiate WMDs or whatever. Such an American "Beckow" would insist that America never planned to take over Iraq because it only brought 450,000 troops compared to the 1.1 million man Iraqi army defending cities such as Baghdad (population around 5 million in 2003 IIRC).

    It's funny Beckow, because you yourself predicted that Russia's force would conquer Ukraine quickly. You gloated that the Ukrainian leadership would flee, and the Ukrainian soldiers would surrender rather than face arrest later.

    That is actually something the Russians apparently believed. It's why their troops outside Kiev had parade uniforms, and they brought a lot of riot police with them. They were expecting something in the range of Czechoslovakia 1968, Georgia 2008 (except they wouldn't stop), or Iraq 2003.

    And it's why in the first days of the war they were all excitedly predicted how Ukraine would fall in a few weeks. Have you forgotten? Putin sycophants like MacGregor or Ritter were claiming any month Ukraine would fall.

    But now you say they never tried to conquer Ukraine after all, of course it would be stupid to expect that 300,000 Russian + Donbas troops could defeat 300,000 Ukrainian ones and take over the country.

    It's funny to see you flail around, changing your story, about this and other things.


    Nato thought Russia was weak and not fully committed. Well, they are committed now – after all the dead and the destruction no Russian leaders can back down.
     
    Like Poland 1920, or Japan 1905?

    As long as Russia has hope that the West will walk away (and it will have this hope at least until 2025) it will not back down - that would be a stupid thing to do. But then? A face-saving deal versus eternal sanctions and losing 50k dead every year becomes very possible. Ukraine may be in NATO, but Crimea (and maybe even a land corridor) is forever theirs, they have captured Mariupol, hurrah.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow, @Derer

    You can excrete your verbal diarrhea on these pages all you want but the fact remains that Ukraine is and will remain the Russian sphere of influence. They are both Slavic cousins and both are pathologically hated by the West.

    The Ukraine’s foreign anti-Slavic gang (Operation Nuland) is in power only temporary. Undoubtedly, they will flee to hide in fear of victor’s punishment. There won’t be a secure place for them.

  835. @AP
    @sudden death

    Excellent response. The only purpose for Gerard is to sometimes elicit comments such as yours.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Gerard1234

    Excellent response. The only purpose for Gerard is to sometimes elicit comments such as yours.

    LOL – more self-deceptive garbage from the the Axis of Excrement ( LatWakjob, Sudden Dementia, Mr Hack, JJ, Homo-Paedo AP with a soft “p” ( literally highly disturbing reading the freakshow of you lusting after Anne Apfelbaum – an action that can only be considered extreme Homo, in addition to all the other vile, fantasist things about yourself), and Paedo-Homo Mr XYZ – with a soft “h” for him, no attempt to even try and disguise the paedo element from XYZ.

    How any sane person can read Sudden’s comment , or my response ( which is only partial to his nonsense) and make the conclusion that an insecure retard as yourself has typed…..is impossible. The tedious show of you trying to waste the excellent commentator Beckows time by deliberately talking something you know f**k all about ( Czecholovakia/Slovakia and that end of Communism period in that country) against something he clearly knows alot about …. is the height of scumbag idiocy and sociopathy, and why excrement losers like yourself should have no place on this blog.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234

    Do you still think that Mikhail Bulgakov was a Ukrainian writer, like those KGB chiefs were supposedly Ukrainian?

    You keep avoiding that question.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  836. Bashibuzuk says:
    @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    It's not the years, it's the miles.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Yeah, miles of cocaine lines…

    [MORE]

    A most revolutionary drug, was widely used in 1917 as well. It was legal and could be purchased in any Petrograd pharmacy back then. The revolutionary sailors and soldiers used cocaine and pure undiluted alcohol to keep them going. They didn’t have captagon at the time. The resulting historical outcome is well documented. Between 1918 – 1919, Petrograd lost one million people. The Civil War period (which included foreign intervention) reduced Russian Empire population by some 10 million people. That’s an answer to your question about the (lack of) continuity between Imperial and Soviet elites.

    OTOH, there is a continuity between Soviet and RusFedian elites, they are both much connected to the Nomenklatura and the KGB, just addled with some organized crime and ethnic minority or diaspora people. Most of the people in RusFedian elite are Noviop, a significant proportion of these have ancestors whom got close to power in these gloomy days of the Civil War. Chubais, Gaidar, Venediktov… Their name is Legion.

    BTW, the use of cocaine by the Zelensky circle in Ukraine to withstand the pressure is widely known. I think the final results might well be as tragic for Ukraine as the one we have witnessed in the Russian Empire a hundred years ago. Same causes yield same consequences.

    Just say no to drugs…

    • Agree: QCIC
  837. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.
     
    Your favorite source wiki says that they killed between 150k and one million:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    That is two orders of magnitude more than what you claim. How can you be so far off? It only shows fear.


    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq.
     
    What was the "WMDs" narrative you were spinning above? And the "we won" boasts? My point was that the criminal Iraq war was never investigated, its authors were promoted, even celebrated, the media pretends it never happened. If there are no consequences saying that you "opposed it" is empty. Can Russia do the same?

    South Ossetia nad Transnistria were small events where Russia initially went in as peacekeepers - in Georgia's case with UN Security Council approval. It is simply not the same as starting a war against Iraq half-way around the world or bombing civilians in Donbas as Kiev did.

    If you think it is, you just show us that you are even a bigger moron than we thought. Or you are so desperate caught in lies and inconsistency that you will say anything. It is immature.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.

    Your favorite source wiki says that they killed between 150k and one million

    No it doesn’t. Why do you lie about something for which there is a link that you provided?

    American bombing during the shock and awe invasion of 2003 killed between 3,200 and 7,300 Iraqis:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

    It’s also in the same link you provided.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    Did you forget how to read?

    The 150,000-1 million figure (first number anee those killed violently, latter includes deaths from illness or disease) includes the deaths of Iraqis at the hands of other Iraqi during civil wars following the invasion. Indeed your own link stated 12% of those killed were by coalition forces.

    Once again, you were caught lying, so you try to change the subject.

    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq.

    What was the “WMDs” narrative you were spinning above

    Beckow: too dumb to understand that I compared the American WMD excuse to the equally dumb Russian NATO excuse.

    And the “we won” boasts

    Stating the banal fact that America won the war is not the same as defending the criminal invasion.

    Germany defeated Poland in 1939. Does stating that defend the criminal invasion of Poland?

    It is simply not the same as starting a war against Iraq half-way around the world or bombing civilians in Donbas as Kiev did.

    Your midwit (at best) mind got confused again. The precedent for Kiev bombing rebellious Donbas in 2014 was Russia bombing rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s.

    Transdnistria was the precedent for Kosovo.

    you are so desperate caught in lies and inconsistency that you will say anything

    You’ve described yourself very well, as we see above. The best thing you wrote in that post. Congratulations.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Casualties of the Iraq War...

    Wiki says150k to 1 million, the best estimate is 300-400k. What part of the "Casualties of the Iraq war" you don't understand? Invasion phase was a short initial sub-phase of the war, not the full war. Don't play an idiot.

    Are you going to exclude people in WW2 or in Vietnam who died in the later stages of war? Or claim that some Jews-Poles-Roma died in camps of typhus and Soviet POWs of starvation so it doesn't count? You are really one sick puppy, get a hold of yourself: it was hundreds of thousands victims of US war on Iraq.

    Iraq war was illegal and US eventually lost, but there were no consequences for its authors. Your personal belated opposition is irrelevant - we are comparing the wars on the countries level. US-UK started the aggressive murderous war - and Kiev prides itself on being a 100%+ US-UK ally so they own it...

    Replies: @AP

  838. @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    What do you mean by Yanukovitch not being of Ukrainian descent?

    Replies: @AP

    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @AP

    Why does it matter ?

    Does ethnic descent determine loyalty in post-Soviet Ukraine ?

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    , @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.
     
    I guess you are pointing this out to contrast with the current clown you believe to be purebred Ukrainian?

    Replies: @AP, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Beckow, @Mikhail

  839. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Excellent response. The only purpose for Gerard is to sometimes elicit comments such as yours.
     
    LOL - more self-deceptive garbage from the the Axis of Excrement ( LatWakjob, Sudden Dementia, Mr Hack, JJ, Homo-Paedo AP with a soft "p" ( literally highly disturbing reading the freakshow of you lusting after Anne Apfelbaum - an action that can only be considered extreme Homo, in addition to all the other vile, fantasist things about yourself), and Paedo-Homo Mr XYZ - with a soft "h" for him, no attempt to even try and disguise the paedo element from XYZ.

    How any sane person can read Sudden's comment , or my response ( which is only partial to his nonsense) and make the conclusion that an insecure retard as yourself has typed.....is impossible. The tedious show of you trying to waste the excellent commentator Beckows time by deliberately talking something you know f**k all about ( Czecholovakia/Slovakia and that end of Communism period in that country) against something he clearly knows alot about .... is the height of scumbag idiocy and sociopathy, and why excrement losers like yourself should have no place on this blog.

    Replies: @AP

    Do you still think that Mikhail Bulgakov was a Ukrainian writer, like those KGB chiefs were supposedly Ukrainian?

    You keep avoiding that question.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Do you still think that Mikhail Bulgakov was a Ukrainian writer, like those KGB chiefs were supposedly Ukrainian?

    You keep avoiding that question.

     

    WHAT question "avoided", you dickhead fantasist? I am still recovering from the injuries sustained in laughter from your bimbo retard "Nazi's were Prussian/Protestant sect" . I could have recovered from that without surgery.....but then you exacerbated that by mentioning Nuremberg to "support" your claim!!! Idiotic in so many ways. Additionally by mentioning Nuremberg you stupid prick - it made be think about Rudenko, who I would have completely forgot about, LMAO!

    All that clownish stupidity was enough for me to not be that angry with your digusting, evil scumbag lies about the ukronazi mass murder in Odessa 10 years ago - it just shows what a permanantly cursed-in-hell disease you are.

    Bulgakov is Russian. Kiev is Russian . Ukrainian is actually Russian. Ukrainians are Russians. Khokhlism is a psychiatric disease infecting some Russians. End of argument.

    Reading Bulgakov is reading Russian world, Russian culture, Russian language at it's best. For any Kiev resident , in several of his writings you are reading about their city, their landmarks, the city's character in his writings. This all works if the obvious that Kiev and Bulgakov and Ukraine are Russian is accepted.

    Bulgakov, in any way cannot be compared with examples as:

    Rudyard Kipling - not a single Indian is going to claim him as theirs, every Brit ( well those who can read) is going to claim and be proud that he is great Englishman. Some Indians maybe happy that he wrote things involving India, but nothing more than that.

    Or Franz Liszt with Hungary - definitely not like the Kipling example, I don't have any friends in Hungary to discuss him with, but he certainly appears to be a symbol of Hungary, though it would make things even better for Hungarians if he was ethnically Hungarian, particularly as Bartok is sh*t by comparison.

    Bulgakov is just further example that "Ukraine" is Russia and "Ukrainians" are Russians and Kiev is a Russian city. No sane person is going to say he is like the Kipling or Liszt example on what nationality he should be identified with.

    As for the embarrassing ( for Ukronazis) fact that 3 leaders consecutively of KGB were UKRAINIANS - Chebrikov, Semichastny, Fedorchuk:

    All born in Ukraine- unlike you
    All lived and worked in Ukraine.....unlike you
    All spoke Ukraininan (that includes the other Ukrainians like Brezhnev and Khrushchev).....unlike you
    All were effected by Soviet-created "Ukrainianisation" .....unlike you
    All listed and identified themselves as Ukrainian on passport....unlike you
    All served Ukraine.....unlike you

    Now, as only recently I wrote about how much of the current khokhol leadership is entirely non-Ukrop - all Russians and Jews, or the fact the "patriarch" of wakjob khokhol nationalism is......ethnic Russian Dmitry Dontsov.......or the vast numbers of historical Galician agitators who are either 100% of half-Polish - your idiocy to claim these 3 Ukrainian leaders of KGB as Russian is as demented as it is dishonest.

    As for their ethnicity- Ukrop ethnicity is fake anyway, and everything is so intermixed under one Russian culture , so many from mixed villages where could russianise or khokholise their name independent of if Russian or malorossiyan....that its beyond braindead to try and hide from the inconvenient fact as you do.Fedorchuk is obvious, Chebrikov - I have zero idea about the root of that name, could possibly be something encountered more the further west of Russian world into 404 you go. Semichastny - old Russian - could easily be any of Russia/Belarus/404 origin - though very likely 404. Either way- all Ukrainians.

    Just to repeat and increase my list from before, Ukronazis of their most populated age group now , have grown up with in the 1980's Ukrainians in all these high power positions leading USSR at the same time:

    Leader of USSR, Heads of KGB, Defence Minister, Interior Minister, Chief Prosecutor, Head of Mosfilm, Head of Space Program (Glushko), Chief Serial murderer (Chikatilo), Admiral of Navy, Marshall of VVS ( now VKS) ,Ivashustin - Head of GRU, Manager of USSR football team, President of Academy of Sciences and about a million other high power positions.

    They have grown up with that - and partially explains the parasitism and self-entitlement that has helped make it the most failed of post-Soviet states.
    That's all without considering the numerous , Soviet design Bureaus based in 404 and the very sizeable infrastructure built in late 1970's, 1980s.

    USSR was more Ukrainian-controlled than than the semibankirschina was Jewish. Current Israeli leadership is probably more ethnically Ukrainian than the actual Ukrop leadership........which is ironic because Ukrop leadership is almost as Jewish as the Israeli government, LMAO.

    Replies: @AP

  840. Mikhail says: • Website
    @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    The Challenger 3 is the upgrade to finally get rid of the archaic rifled cannon. Everything else is probably standard upgrades which all sides do.

    The best Western tanks for Ukraine might be the French Leclerc (UAE version) and the Korean Black panther. Both have an autoloader and 3 man crew so are slightly smaller and more mobile than the largest tanks like M1, Leo and Challenger. The autoloader ammo storage arrangement is much safer than the Russian and Ukrainian storage systems. For top protection which is now mandatory all tanks require either active protection systems (APS) like Trophy or some version of cope cages. If they don't have this the leadership is not serious about getting these tanks bloody in a stand up fight. The problem is that the APS is the most expensive subsystem. Additionally, both sides may be keeping this hardware out of the fight as long as possible so countermeasures are not developed before the MIC (also on all sides) can sell a bunch of this expensive and fragile-looking gear.

    The Leclerc never sold very well so it may have some serious flaw which is downplayed. On the other hand, Poland has a bunch of Black Panthers so we may find out how well they actually work.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Wokechoke

    The Challenger 3 is the upgrade to finally get rid of the archaic rifled cannon. Everything else is probably standard upgrades which all sides do.

    The best Western tanks for Ukraine might be the French Leclerc (UAE version) and the Korean Black panther. Both have an autoloader and 3 man crew so are slightly smaller and more mobile than the largest tanks like M1, Leo and Challenger. The autoloader ammo storage arrangement is much safer than the Russian and Ukrainian storage systems. For top protection which is now mandatory all tanks require either active protection systems (APS) like Trophy or some version of cope cages. If they don’t have this the leadership is not serious about getting these tanks bloody in a stand up fight. The problem is that the APS is the most expensive subsystem. Additionally, both sides may be keeping this hardware out of the fight as long as possible so countermeasures are not developed before the MIC (also on all sides) can sell a bunch of this expensive and fragile-looking gear.

    The Leclerc never sold very well so it may have some serious flaw which is downplayed. On the other hand, Poland has a bunch of Black Panthers so we may find out how well they actually work.

    Kiev regime lacking air cover for them, along with experienced crews with these vehicles. Russia has gotten militarily stronger with the Kiev regime going the opposite direction. Don’t be surprised if these tanks don’t fare any better

  841. @songbird
    Somehow I missed this but the French/Netflix adapted Lupin to TV, and it stars that Fulani guy who was in the Intouchables.

    TBH, have never been a fan of the Lupin stories, Monsieur Lecoq is better IMO. But it is very strange and remarkable that Lupin, who is considered an iconic French character is a Fulani, while the British icon Doctor Who (also not a fan) is a gay Tutsi.

    I suppose technically he is not supposed to be Lupin but a character who is inspired by the Lupin stories, but it is still pretty ridiculous.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupin_(French_TV_series)

    Replies: @Coconuts

    I remember I watched a few minutes of that soon after it came out. I didn’t know the background about it being inspired by the Lupin stories, rather than a straightforward black version of Lupin.

    For some reason it didn’t catch my attention and I was wondering why they had made Lupin an African, but I think you get used to this phenomena if you are aware of BBC and Netflix output and casting choices in the last few years.

    I never got into the original Lupin stories either, but I did like Raffles, the British version of Lupin. A long time ago the BBC made some good radio dramatisations of the Raffles stories.

    • Thanks: songbird
  842. @Another Polish Perspective
    @sudden death


    That’s why I’m for red, yellow, green, black – just not white.
     
    It is all another late revolt against Aryan invasions as we can see from its hatred of "white", or specifically white men, as those doing the replacement (men were replaced, but women not so much, which is a bit strange somehow and testifies either to small number of Aryan women and/or the greater fecundity of non-Aryan ones). The Labrys of the Great Goddess will rule again! And remember that in one interpretation, the two-headed eagle, orginally raised by Byzantine aristocrats of Paleologos family (another oligarchs), is just the masked labrys. Dugin is full in, as the idea must have appeared to him that his daughter death was a human sacrifice; anyway her funeral was in the most phallic building of Moscow which says all.

    The more interesting question is how these ideas appear again and again correctly aiming at their opponents, with the memory of Aryan invasion being lost in populations long time ago.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Coconuts

    Dugin is full in…

    It’s Dugin proving that he is white. These kinds of views were popular in the progressive counter-culture in the rest of Europe during the 1960s, into the 80s and 90s with post-modernism/post-colonialism. At the moment the people in the UK leading on the idea of a global majority non-white majority against the white minority are white members of the elite. Imo these sort of ideas only gain traction in European culture because they are endorsed by current white elites.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Coconuts


    Imo these sort of ideas only gain traction in European culture because they are endorsed by current white elites.
     
    The problem of white self-hatred is usually put in a shallow way. Those elites probably don't consider themselves white (they can also claim to be white due to their mothers, as most of the time it is a white man who is singled out for hatred, a fact which can be really only explained with the background of Arian invasion)- anyway on different forms whites are known as "Caucasian" and Jews are Jews.

    If they do see themselves as white it is probably only as temporary, alchemical stage - after all the male beloved in the Song of Songs, so beloved by Kabbala, is "ruddy", a kind of Egyptian - and Coudenhove-Kalergi said in his Praktische Idealismus (I have read it in German original) that is the ultimate goal, namely all people becoming again Egyptian-like. Back to Egypt, in other words. That, again, is in tune with the almost universal worship of Egypt in the modern world, starting with 1 $ bill.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  843. haha, roughly 60-70% of Unz site content might go poof if this is truthful description? However sooner or later it might go into Supreme court and if any legal consent age porno is protected as free speech, why shouldn’t anything below be as well?

    U.S. House voted to pass the bipartisan “Antisemitism Awareness Act” by a margin of 320 to 91.

    Rights groups warn that the definition could further chill freedom of speech.

    Here are some examples what might constiute as antisemitism from the bill:

    — Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or
    blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.

    — Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

    — Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

    — Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.

    — Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

    — Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

    — Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @sudden death

    After the Bolshevik revolution, antisemitism was a punishable offence in the Soviet Union. I think this Act is a nice example of evolutionary convergence.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Wokechoke
    @sudden death

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpWGz_tOvc

    , @sudden death
    @sudden death

    Looked very quickly at the original text and there are no all those examples given directly in the text though;) And at least such thing is inserted as:


    24 (b) CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
     
    https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr6090/BILLS-118hr6090ih.pdf

    Replies: @A123, @songbird

  844. @AP
    @Bashibuzuk

    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN

    Why does it matter ?

    Does ethnic descent determine loyalty in post-Soviet Ukraine ?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Bashibuzuk

    It certainly doesn’t matter much; I was just answering the question.

    Ethnicity is one of many factors. Yanukovich has a Russian mother and a Belarussian-Polish father. Yanukovichgrew up in majority-Russian Donetsk, not far from Russia itself, during Soviet times. Ukraine became independent when he was 40 years old. He was basically a Russian. Indeed he was so Russian, that while he was president of Ukraine even the Russian people of Crimea didn’t care much about independence from Ukraine. *

    Arestovich has a remarkably similar ethnic background to Yanukovich. He also has a Russian mother and a Polish-Belarusian father. But everything else about his background is different. Arestovich went to secondary school in Kiev (a Russian-speaking but proudly ethnic Ukrainian environment) and lived his life there, and is younger so he lived in independent Ukraine (he was 16 when Ukraine became independent). He is very different from Yanukovich, though also not an ethnic Ukrainian.

    *Unrelated to this discussion, but I wonder if one reason why the Québécois have not left Canada is that so many of Canada’s PMs have been French themselves: Trudeau, Martin, Chretien, the new Conservative Party leader is also French.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    It doesn't determine loyalty, as AP has demonstrably shown in his follow-up answers, but neither should it be discounted when weighing somebody's loyalties. Do you feel that JJ was way off in making his original point that Yanukovych was most likely interested in keeping Ukraine under the Russian sphere, pointing to his non-Ukrainian ethnic roots? I would point out that for somebody having this inclination, it was paradoxical that he held out so long and supported a pro-EU platform.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  845. @sudden death
    haha, roughly 60-70% of Unz site content might go poof if this is truthful description? However sooner or later it might go into Supreme court and if any legal consent age porno is protected as free speech, why shouldn't anything below be as well?

    U.S. House voted to pass the bipartisan "Antisemitism Awareness Act" by a margin of 320 to 91.

    Rights groups warn that the definition could further chill freedom of speech.

    Here are some examples what might constiute as antisemitism from the bill:

    — Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or
    blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.

    — Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

    — Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

    — Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.

    — Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

    — Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

    — Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
     


    https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1785927039859528033

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Wokechoke, @sudden death

    After the Bolshevik revolution, antisemitism was a punishable offence in the Soviet Union. I think this Act is a nice example of evolutionary convergence.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    Adam Smith and Karl Marx both had British banker patrons. Engels was a capitalist before he became a popular writer.

    National Socialism was in colonial Palestine before the New York Times.

    Ideology is always for sale to people with money and power. It's like an elite human capital collective man. It's not personal. Just business.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsbyvuO_AqM

  846. @sudden death
    haha, roughly 60-70% of Unz site content might go poof if this is truthful description? However sooner or later it might go into Supreme court and if any legal consent age porno is protected as free speech, why shouldn't anything below be as well?

    U.S. House voted to pass the bipartisan "Antisemitism Awareness Act" by a margin of 320 to 91.

    Rights groups warn that the definition could further chill freedom of speech.

    Here are some examples what might constiute as antisemitism from the bill:

    — Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or
    blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.

    — Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

    — Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

    — Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.

    — Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

    — Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

    — Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
     


    https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1785927039859528033

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Wokechoke, @sudden death

  847. @John Johnson
    @Bashibuzuk

    He is a mutant byproduct of the “radioactive decay” of the mid 90ies American liberal middle class families.

    Yea and it sounds like he had a real d-bag dad that didn't have good advice for him. One of those "just pray on it son" types that has nothing real to add. I base that on an article I read about him a long time ago.

    Despite being a troll, Anglin is right about a lot of things.

    He is wrong most of the time and misses some of the most obvious patterns.

    He not only walked right into the "magic negro" trap but did it with a mentally unstable entertainer.

    Anglin is really just a sad character. He was clearly burned or rejected by White women and hasn't gotten over it. He describes himself as a White nationalist and yet openly hates White women. But he is also supposedly pro Christian family....? Which race would that be if you hate White women?

    He left the US after sending his minions to troll some small town Jew over a real estate deal that didn't involve him.

    In reality he isn't pro-White in the least. He is just a misanthrope that hates Jews. In fact he said he hopes the Chinese dominate the world. I really think he would be happy in a Chinese cage as long as the Jews were next to him.

    I really hate the guy since he pretends to represent both Whites and Christians. I don't think he understands Christianity. He is most likely a partial sociopath that can only mimic the actions and beliefs. I am White and I don't remember an election where we chose a bitter Jew hater who despises White women to represent us.

    Actually, someone should write a book about Anglin, he is a precursor to the generation of cynical memeticists who are growing among today’s teens. He was one among those who opened the door to their historical nihilism, which we still will have to experience fully as we age.

    That would be a terrible and depressing book. You could indeed title it a door to nihilism.

    Anglin is what happens when a smart White man gets dealt a low card and never finds his way. His White nationalist gig never would have happened if he simply met a White woman that he likes and had kids. Same for Fuentes. They are two White guys that despise US society for not giving them what they expected. I understand being frustrated with the lies of modern society but they really don't have a plan other than hate Jews and latch on to a mass murdering dwarf in Russia. I'll give him a break on his blog when he stops claiming to represent Whites. His attachment to Putin makes zero sense and I will continue to call out his total bullshit double standard on not talking about Putin's connections to Israel.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.

    The attempts to shoe horn in the 613 rules for Jews into a Christian context so transparently clueless that…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.

    So back to thinking I am Jewish?

    That's a nice fictional depiction of a European looking Jesus but I fail to see what it has to do with anything. I think it shows that your mind is heavily composed of false images and you most likely live in a state of general confusion that is clearly influenced by the entertainment industry.

    Oh BTW the producer of that series is Jewish:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Grade

    I bet you had no idea that you enjoyed Jewish entertainment so much.

    I don't watch any TV Jesus and I'm amazed that most Christians aren't offended by the idea of turning Jesus into a TV special or 2 hour movie.

    Gosh I still haven't seen your hero Anglin do a post on Putin's Jewish connections. Now why would that be? He constantly posts about Jews in the US government but never Russia. Why is that Wokechoke? I thought only the MSM maintains double standards.

    Putin has banner created to show friendship with Netanyahu
    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/5f78eaaac05c07471f35641a8dca716c145c90fe/2276_758_3126_1876/master/3126.jpg?width=1200&height=900&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=419099653e2129af2bc23eaa98f77d7b

    Is that a real banner or was it photoshopped?

    Now scurry back to the Anglin blog like a rat and listen to him rant about Jews and White women while NEVER talking of Putin's Jewish connections. Your incel hero is just as biased as any MSM talking head. You fully support bias when it favors your fuzzies.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.
     
    I don’t know about that particular personage, who is clearly hopeless and not worth responding to (whether it is paid or unpaid). However, I want to say that my experience of dealing with many people suggests that the proportion of scum among Jews (at least in Russia and the US) is about the same as among representatives of any nationality. Some are despicable scum, but most individual Jews are in the range between OK and good people.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  848. @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    The Challenger 3 is the upgrade to finally get rid of the archaic rifled cannon. Everything else is probably standard upgrades which all sides do.

    The best Western tanks for Ukraine might be the French Leclerc (UAE version) and the Korean Black panther. Both have an autoloader and 3 man crew so are slightly smaller and more mobile than the largest tanks like M1, Leo and Challenger. The autoloader ammo storage arrangement is much safer than the Russian and Ukrainian storage systems. For top protection which is now mandatory all tanks require either active protection systems (APS) like Trophy or some version of cope cages. If they don't have this the leadership is not serious about getting these tanks bloody in a stand up fight. The problem is that the APS is the most expensive subsystem. Additionally, both sides may be keeping this hardware out of the fight as long as possible so countermeasures are not developed before the MIC (also on all sides) can sell a bunch of this expensive and fragile-looking gear.

    The Leclerc never sold very well so it may have some serious flaw which is downplayed. On the other hand, Poland has a bunch of Black Panthers so we may find out how well they actually work.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Wokechoke

    The ideal tank would probably be a drone hub. Fast moving and nimble with a couple of guys who can control an array of drones on the move. A mothership for a swarm of bomb tossing quads with its own chain gun for shooting down opposing drones.

    Unmanned Aircraft Tracked Carrier?

    It’s time for a new Fuller or Guderian.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    Shooting down flying drones is a missing link at the moment. It will be interesting to see what people come up with. I am a bit surprised we haven't heard much about lasers, but I haven't followed things closely. Blinding of nearby troops who lost their laser safety googles is a concern which may limit deployment. I think the Chinese could be the leader in medium power anti-drone lasers, since they have cheap production in general but also because they are competent in manufacture of optical components such as lenses and crystals.

    Replies: @A123

  849. @sudden death
    haha, roughly 60-70% of Unz site content might go poof if this is truthful description? However sooner or later it might go into Supreme court and if any legal consent age porno is protected as free speech, why shouldn't anything below be as well?

    U.S. House voted to pass the bipartisan "Antisemitism Awareness Act" by a margin of 320 to 91.

    Rights groups warn that the definition could further chill freedom of speech.

    Here are some examples what might constiute as antisemitism from the bill:

    — Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or
    blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.

    — Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

    — Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

    — Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.

    — Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

    — Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

    — Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
     


    https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1785927039859528033

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @Wokechoke, @sudden death

    Looked very quickly at the original text and there are no all those examples given directly in the text though;) And at least such thing is inserted as:

    24 (b) CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

    https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr6090/BILLS-118hr6090ih.pdf

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death

    The pro-genocide Hamas supporters have shown their true face;) (1)


    As a reminder, these protests have very little to do with the poor Palestinians and more to do with a Marxist takeover of the US.

    One radical left extremist said the quiet part out loud to hundreds of youngsters this week:

    "There's only one solution, intifada revolution. We must have a revolution so we can have a socialist reconstruction of the USA."
     

     
    SJW college administrations tried to protect the socialist revolutionaries. However, once state and local forces arrive, the genociders find it hard to keep their Marxism going. Here's one being taken away. (2)

     
    https://media.breitbart.com/media/2024/05/UCLA-police-break-Getty-e1714652444572.jpg
     

    It places the Democrats in a tough spot. Can they unwind their history of pandering to the Fascist Stormtroopers of Antifa ? It seems unlikely. The toothless House bill was an unconvincing bit of sham theater that will soon be forgotten.

    -- The more the DNC does to satisfy pro-genocide Hamas progressives, --
    -- The more they push swing voters to MAGA. --


    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/all-hell-breaks-out-ucla-marxist-protesters-battle-cops

    (2) https://www.breitbart.com/education/2024/05/02/ucla-police-break-up-palestine-solidarity-encampment-arrest-activists/

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    , @songbird
    @sudden death

    Have just started looking at Twitter again over these college protests, and obviously I am not a woke, but I genuinely find it really shocking to see all the anti-demonstration rhetoric on it.

    All the extreme alarmism, all the shameless toadying of characters like Hanania (even to the point of homoeroticism), the strange pronouncements that this is the point where America is over(i.e. the protests, not the bill), and all the shallow, see-through repackaging of a strong response under some vague idea of American patriotism.

    Any other day of the week, multiracial frat boys waving the flag would be called Nazis. But now they are lauded.

    All those previous cases where Third Worlders in the West engage in faction fights. Yes, Jews are literally doing it now - they are organizing in bands and engaging in fisticuffs. Have heard those are the Mizrahi.

    What we are seeing now seems to be Jews reasserting their territoriality over the college system. I wonder if their numbers in the Ivies will start to rise again, after this.

    Haven't seen any mainstream media but I am reminded of the initial extreme woke response to the War in Ukraine, when they were trying to make it all about racism against blacks in Ukraine. Well, now there is a war in which >12,000 Arab children have been killed, and it's like that didn't happen, but the worse thing is the protests.

    My assessment of Jewish power levels has grown higher. It almost seems that short of getting the US to invade Iran, there is nothing that they can't do.

    Remains to be seen whether this is just their last hurrah before the the demographics really start to shift, but Hanania is literally a Palestinian.

  850. QCIC says:
    @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    The ideal tank would probably be a drone hub. Fast moving and nimble with a couple of guys who can control an array of drones on the move. A mothership for a swarm of bomb tossing quads with its own chain gun for shooting down opposing drones.


    Unmanned Aircraft Tracked Carrier?


    It’s time for a new Fuller or Guderian.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Shooting down flying drones is a missing link at the moment. It will be interesting to see what people come up with. I am a bit surprised we haven’t heard much about lasers, but I haven’t followed things closely. Blinding of nearby troops who lost their laser safety googles is a concern which may limit deployment. I think the Chinese could be the leader in medium power anti-drone lasers, since they have cheap production in general but also because they are competent in manufacture of optical components such as lenses and crystals.

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC

    Israel has been working on Iron Beam. It will integrate laser defense into the existing detection system that can tell friendly from unfriendly targets.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pb2vG1T5h7Q

    Trying to mount very small systems onto individual tanks raises questions about detection and target selection. The laser itself could be protected inside the armor. What would have to be outside for sensing and aiming?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

  851. AP says:
    @Bashibuzuk
    @AP

    Why does it matter ?

    Does ethnic descent determine loyalty in post-Soviet Ukraine ?

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    It certainly doesn’t matter much; I was just answering the question.

    Ethnicity is one of many factors. Yanukovich has a Russian mother and a Belarussian-Polish father. Yanukovichgrew up in majority-Russian Donetsk, not far from Russia itself, during Soviet times. Ukraine became independent when he was 40 years old. He was basically a Russian. Indeed he was so Russian, that while he was president of Ukraine even the Russian people of Crimea didn’t care much about independence from Ukraine. *

    Arestovich has a remarkably similar ethnic background to Yanukovich. He also has a Russian mother and a Polish-Belarusian father. But everything else about his background is different. Arestovich went to secondary school in Kiev (a Russian-speaking but proudly ethnic Ukrainian environment) and lived his life there, and is younger so he lived in independent Ukraine (he was 16 when Ukraine became independent). He is very different from Yanukovich, though also not an ethnic Ukrainian.

    *Unrelated to this discussion, but I wonder if one reason why the Québécois have not left Canada is that so many of Canada’s PMs have been French themselves: Trudeau, Martin, Chretien, the new Conservative Party leader is also French.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Another reason as to why the Quebecois have not left Canada might have to do with the Great Replacement making Canada more diverse and thus perhaps less pro-independence.

  852. A123 says: • Website
    @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    Shooting down flying drones is a missing link at the moment. It will be interesting to see what people come up with. I am a bit surprised we haven't heard much about lasers, but I haven't followed things closely. Blinding of nearby troops who lost their laser safety googles is a concern which may limit deployment. I think the Chinese could be the leader in medium power anti-drone lasers, since they have cheap production in general but also because they are competent in manufacture of optical components such as lenses and crystals.

    Replies: @A123

    Israel has been working on Iron Beam. It will integrate laser defense into the existing detection system that can tell friendly from unfriendly targets.

    Trying to mount very small systems onto individual tanks raises questions about detection and target selection. The laser itself could be protected inside the armor. What would have to be outside for sensing and aiming?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    Iron beam is still reasonably large and expensive, what with the Western MIC and all. Laser systems can use the built in camera for target and tracking or start with info from radars and electronic warfare scanners.

    Probably goes on a dedicated small armored vehicle. The US and USSR did versions of these long ago, but there were no critical soft targets at that time like FPV drones and electronics were crude. Probably need lots of these vehicles since they will be obvious prime targets, sort of like the guy with the big binoculars or the radio in earlier conflicts.

    Replies: @A123

  853. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...face-saving deal versus eternal sanctions and losing 50k dead every year becomes very possible. Ukraine may be in NATO, but Crimea (and maybe even a land corridor) is forever theirs, they have captured Mariupol
     
    The rump-Ukraine will not be in Nato, that's what the war is about. And the lands directly taken by Russia will probably be larger. That would be a Russian win.

    I don't think Russia cares much for the sanctions - they are hurting Europe at least as much and it helps the current government to minimize interactions with the West.

    Let's say there are negotiations, what can the West offer to Russia that is substantive? Promises and bullsh..t about "you will be in our prestigeous club" are worthless. And the West break its treaties and promises. What can they offer to prevent Russia from taking it all?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    What can they offer to prevent Russia from taking it all?

    The West can’t offer anything because it convincingly proved itself to be non-agreement-capable. I am not privy to the plans of the RF leadership. Based on my limited info, the RF will take what is necessary (the whole Black sea coast) and maybe some parts of Eastern Ukraine it won’t be able to refuse. On the rest of the territory of former Ukraine the RF will install controlled regime that will maintain this rump Ukraine neutral and demilitarized. Needless to say, it won’t recognize any debt obligations of current Kiev puppets. I might be wrong, and the RF leadership might decide that it’s safer to absorb the whole thing one way or another. I do not favor this option: there is enough shit in Russia as it is (even though a lot of shit left in 2022, too much remain or are returning), it does not need any more.

  854. @AP
    @Bashibuzuk

    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN

    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.

    I guess you are pointing this out to contrast with the current clown you believe to be purebred Ukrainian?

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    No, I was answering a simple question.

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @AnonfromTN

    From last thread.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-246/#comment-6512583

    You should know that Western books on Japanese history are full of lies as well, with Russian collaboration.

    What Soviets did to Japanese-Chinese relationship was analogous to:

    1. If China planted top level agents in Moscow, Kiev and Washington that agitated for war against each other, i.e. Sorge spy ring

    2. If China was éminence grise behind kidnapping of Zelensky to coerce him to take a hardline position against Russia, i.e. Xi'an Incident

    3. If China trained and sent white-looking spies to Donbass to instigate hostility between Ukraine and Russia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maki_Mirage

    Snake like behavior on part of Soviets.

    , @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    AP's is in a mental collapse, he calls it purely how he wants it to be in his head. I have always wondered what happens to ideologues as their world collapses - we see: denial of reality, lying to yourself, hope for miracles..but most visible is the obsessive cherry-picking, desperately looking for good news - defined as anything "bad" happening to the winning side.

    I suspect there were Nazi Champagne bottles when FDR died. The fanatical Ukies today are latching to mostly made-up irrelevancies like diesel fires in Russia, years old throw-away-lines...and of course Finland! Anything to not see their failed ideological project...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN

    At the UN, Radek Sikorski (whose wife is the neocon Jew Anne Applebaum) sleazily ducked away from these realities presented to him, which the US Jewish establishment downplays:

    ‘Ukraine won’t belong to Yids!’ Odessa nationalist leader stirs crowd on massacre anniversary
    https://www.rt.com/news/425788-ukraine-odessa-jews-nationalists/

    The pro-Palestinian US college protests haven't in overall terms come close to the above. Zelensky is a modern-day capo who said it's cool to honor Bandera. At some point, perhaps a humanitarian intervention for Odessa will happen along the lines of Crimea's reunification with Russia.

    Related:

    https://www.rt.com/russia/554860-burned-alive-2014-odessa/

  855. QCIC says:
    @A123
    @QCIC

    Israel has been working on Iron Beam. It will integrate laser defense into the existing detection system that can tell friendly from unfriendly targets.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pb2vG1T5h7Q

    Trying to mount very small systems onto individual tanks raises questions about detection and target selection. The laser itself could be protected inside the armor. What would have to be outside for sensing and aiming?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    Iron beam is still reasonably large and expensive, what with the Western MIC and all. Laser systems can use the built in camera for target and tracking or start with info from radars and electronic warfare scanners.

    Probably goes on a dedicated small armored vehicle. The US and USSR did versions of these long ago, but there were no critical soft targets at that time like FPV drones and electronics were crude. Probably need lots of these vehicles since they will be obvious prime targets, sort of like the guy with the big binoculars or the radio in earlier conflicts.

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    Iron beam is still reasonably large and expensive,
     
    Iron Beam is still a prototype. So, high cost and problematic reliability are expected at this point in the development lifecycle.

    Israel does better than the U.S. bringing costs down. An Iron Dome interceptor is *much* less expensive than a Patriot.

    Laser systems can use the built in camera for target and tracking or start with info from radars and electronic warfare scanners.
     
    I concur. A free standing camera system will have great difficulty telling friend from foe. It will work much better if supported by other technologies.

    Probably goes on a dedicated small armored vehicle. ... Probably need lots of these vehicles since they will be obvious prime targets,
     
    Perhaps separate radar vehicles that support the command crew / beam platform? Sort of like a Pantsir three vehicle system, but you might need only two.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  856. A123 says: • Website
    @sudden death
    @sudden death

    Looked very quickly at the original text and there are no all those examples given directly in the text though;) And at least such thing is inserted as:


    24 (b) CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
     
    https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr6090/BILLS-118hr6090ih.pdf

    Replies: @A123, @songbird

    The pro-genocide Hamas supporters have shown their true face;) (1)

    As a reminder, these protests have very little to do with the poor Palestinians and more to do with a Marxist takeover of the US.

    One radical left extremist said the quiet part out loud to hundreds of youngsters this week:

    “There’s only one solution, intifada revolution. We must have a revolution so we can have a socialist reconstruction of the USA.”

    SJW college administrations tried to protect the socialist revolutionaries. However, once state and local forces arrive, the genociders find it hard to keep their Marxism going. Here’s one being taken away. (2)

     

     

    It places the Democrats in a tough spot. Can they unwind their history of pandering to the Fascist Stormtroopers of Antifa ? It seems unlikely. The toothless House bill was an unconvincing bit of sham theater that will soon be forgotten.

    — The more the DNC does to satisfy pro-genocide Hamas progressives, —
    — The more they push swing voters to MAGA. —

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/all-hell-breaks-out-ucla-marxist-protesters-battle-cops

    (2) https://www.breitbart.com/education/2024/05/02/ucla-police-break-up-palestine-solidarity-encampment-arrest-activists/

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @A123


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F77HZ37WcAExy4q.jpg

    Replies: @A123, @Bashibuzuk

  857. @sudden death
    @sudden death

    Looked very quickly at the original text and there are no all those examples given directly in the text though;) And at least such thing is inserted as:


    24 (b) CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
     
    https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr6090/BILLS-118hr6090ih.pdf

    Replies: @A123, @songbird

    Have just started looking at Twitter again over these college protests, and obviously I am not a woke, but I genuinely find it really shocking to see all the anti-demonstration rhetoric on it.

    [MORE]

    All the extreme alarmism, all the shameless toadying of characters like Hanania (even to the point of homoeroticism), the strange pronouncements that this is the point where America is over(i.e. the protests, not the bill), and all the shallow, see-through repackaging of a strong response under some vague idea of American patriotism.

    Any other day of the week, multiracial frat boys waving the flag would be called Nazis. But now they are lauded.

    All those previous cases where Third Worlders in the West engage in faction fights. Yes, Jews are literally doing it now – they are organizing in bands and engaging in fisticuffs. Have heard those are the Mizrahi.

    What we are seeing now seems to be Jews reasserting their territoriality over the college system. I wonder if their numbers in the Ivies will start to rise again, after this.

    Haven’t seen any mainstream media but I am reminded of the initial extreme woke response to the War in Ukraine, when they were trying to make it all about racism against blacks in Ukraine. Well, now there is a war in which >12,000 Arab children have been killed, and it’s like that didn’t happen, but the worse thing is the protests.

    My assessment of Jewish power levels has grown higher. It almost seems that short of getting the US to invade Iran, there is nothing that they can’t do.

    Remains to be seen whether this is just their last hurrah before the the demographics really start to shift, but Hanania is literally a Palestinian.

  858. Today is May 2, 2024. It’s ten years since Odessa massacre in 2014, which many see as the point of no return. People who chose to be blind do not see the connection between charred corpses in Odessa on May 2, 2014, and huge ever-growing flag-decorated cemeteries all over Ukraine now.

    • Agree: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Today is May 2, 2024. It’s ten years since Odessa massacre in 2014
     
    These are the pro-Russian thugs who tried to violently take control of the streets of Odesa 10 years ago (as their compatriots had successfully done in Donbas) when they assaulted a Ukrainian unity march and killed one of the Ukrainians.

    They were defeated after clashes on the streets, driven to their headquarters, and many died in a fire after they and the Ukrainians exchanged Molotov cocktails at one another.

    Russians used the lie of a deliberate massacre of blameless Russian victims to stir up a rebellion in faraway Donbas that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Donbassers. And eventually a war with 100,000s of dead Russians and Ukrainians.

    Lies can have tragic consequences when used by bad people.



    https://twitter.com/yurapalyanytsia/status/1785926751274627348?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @QCIC

  859. A123 says: • Website
    @QCIC
    @A123

    Iron beam is still reasonably large and expensive, what with the Western MIC and all. Laser systems can use the built in camera for target and tracking or start with info from radars and electronic warfare scanners.

    Probably goes on a dedicated small armored vehicle. The US and USSR did versions of these long ago, but there were no critical soft targets at that time like FPV drones and electronics were crude. Probably need lots of these vehicles since they will be obvious prime targets, sort of like the guy with the big binoculars or the radio in earlier conflicts.

    Replies: @A123

    Iron beam is still reasonably large and expensive,

    Iron Beam is still a prototype. So, high cost and problematic reliability are expected at this point in the development lifecycle.

    Israel does better than the U.S. bringing costs down. An Iron Dome interceptor is *much* less expensive than a Patriot.

    Laser systems can use the built in camera for target and tracking or start with info from radars and electronic warfare scanners.

    I concur. A free standing camera system will have great difficulty telling friend from foe. It will work much better if supported by other technologies.

    Probably goes on a dedicated small armored vehicle. … Probably need lots of these vehicles since they will be obvious prime targets,

    Perhaps separate radar vehicles that support the command crew / beam platform? Sort of like a Pantsir three vehicle system, but you might need only two.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123

    The major attack vector for drones seems to be slow-moving swarms.

    Lasers, unless they are low-powered, need cool down periods after firing.

    Am skeptical that lasers are the right answer to drones.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

  860. @AP
    @Cesar1191


    The numbers are not infinite, but that does not mean that the war could not last many more years and perhaps even decades if the intensity of the fighting were to decrease
     
    This is correct. If it becomes like 2016-2021 it could last decades.

    you are left with perhaps 10 million men with the disposition and ability to fight. Now, let’s assume, that between dead, wounded and deserters, Russia loses 100 thousand soldiers per year, at such a rate, Russia could sustain this war for more 10 years just using its poor in its depressed regions
     
    This assumes that the willingness to fight remains constant and that the people most willing to fight isn’t front-loaded within the population. In Russia as in Ukraine those most willing to fight have already volunteered. Of course, every year new ones willing to fight will come of age but this number will be smaller than early in the war.

    The latest casualties among Russians are mostly volunteers so it appears that the well of able convicts is running dry.

    There is little to no chance Russia would seek peace before the American election in late 2024, before the cards are on the table.

    So I think that the war will end in 2025.


    That depends on the results, doesn’t it? If Trump is elected, and the US cuts aid to Ukraine in 2025, why would Russia negotiate then?
     
    In 2025 the American position will be clear. Likely possibilities:

    1. Four more years of Biden: don’t give Ukraine enough help to win decisively, but enough to bleed Russia heavily for a long time.

    2. Trump wins, does what he says to get a quick peace (if Ukraine refuses Trump’s peace deal, cut Ukraine off and if Russia refuses, escalate aid to Ukraine).

    3. Trump wins, and like his prior administration (which was far more anti-Russian than was weak the Obama administration) he gives more to Ukraine than Biden did in order to be a winner unlike weak Biden.

    4. Trump wins, and follows the Vivek, Vance, Greene and Carlson wing of Republican Party and abandons Ukraine.

    I think the war will end in 2025 if 1-3 happen, but I agree that if 4 occurs then the war will drag on for much longer. If USA steps out, Russia will have less incentive to seek peace, Ukraine won’t surrender, the Euros will still do enough to keep Ukraine from collapsing (and even if the army would collapse, there would be years of bloody resistance).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @QCIC, @Cesar1191

    This assumes that the willingness to fight remains constant and that the people most willing to fight isn’t front-loaded within the population. In Russia as in Ukraine those most willing to fight have already volunteered. Of course, every year new ones willing to fight will come of age but this number will be smaller than early in the war.

    Fair point, but the obvious counterpoint is that at least for now, Russia doesn’t seem to be having any major problems with replacing its losses with new soldiers (volunteers?) every month, which has exceeded many people’s expectations. I’m not sure about the role of migrants on this, but from what I remember, migrants are given Russian citizenship if they go fight in Ukraine.

    Also, if Putin decides to do other waves of partial mobilization, I am skeptical that this will lead to any popular revolution. Who knows though, it’s difficult to assess the resilience of the Russian political system, sometimes it seems incredibly weak and other times it seems incredibly resilient.

    I think the war will end in 2025 if 1-3 happen, but I agree that if 4 occurs then the war will drag on for much longer. If USA steps out, Russia will have less incentive to seek peace, Ukraine won’t surrender, the Euros will still do enough to keep Ukraine from collapsing (and even if the army would collapse, there would be years of bloody resistance).

    The first scenario is status quo or was the status quo before Republicans cut off aid to Ukraine for the last few months. I don’t think Ukraine or Russia will sign an agreement in this scenario, because they both think they can emerge victorious in this status quo. Remember that even if US aid does not increase, Ukraine will be waiting for an increase in European aid, the Europeans are promising increased deliveries of ammunition and other things to Ukrainians.

    Regarding the second scenario and the Trump peace deal. If this Trump deal doesn’t include NATO for Ukraine, the Ukrainians won’t even consider such a thing, and if NATO is included, it is unlikely the Russians will consider it.

    Regarding the idea of Trump increasing aid to Ukraine. While this is possible, and would certainly be the ideal scenario for Ukraine if Trump were to win, considering that a majority of House Republicans voted against aid to Ukraine, I would say that Ukraine aid would be walking on thin ice with a Trump presidency. It is worth noting the changes in the coalitions. Obama was extremely weak on Russia, but Obama’s presidency was part of the war fatigue over Iraq, in a way so is Trump. Obama was the Democrat dove, while Trump is the Republican dove. The difference is that Trump made isolationism cool, and he elevated weird right-wingers online who, for various reasons, really love Putin and Russia. Trump’s first administration had old school Republicans who were hawks on foreign policy, it’s not clear that Trump will have the same types of people in a possible second administration.

  861. @Bashibuzuk
    @sudden death

    After the Bolshevik revolution, antisemitism was a punishable offence in the Soviet Union. I think this Act is a nice example of evolutionary convergence.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Adam Smith and Karl Marx both had British banker patrons. Engels was a capitalist before he became a popular writer.

    National Socialism was in colonial Palestine before the New York Times.

    Ideology is always for sale to people with money and power. It’s like an elite human capital collective man. It’s not personal. Just business.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  862. @Bashibuzuk
    @QCIC

    Dugin is entertaining . For those who followed his career during the few decades that he was of any public notoriety, it is self evident that no one in the RusFedian elites takes Dugin and his followers seriously.

    Before becoming a “philosopher”, Dugim was part and parcel of a fringe “commune” of deviants who opposed the Soviet way of life in the 1970ies and early 80ies. That group, headed by Mamleev (a surréaliste poet) and Geydar Djamal (an Azeri-born Islamist third worldist), was mainly staffed with bored Moscovite golden youth who rebelled against their successful parents’ careerism and Soviet era conformism. Dugin’s dad was a counterespionage general of Old Believer background (some Old Believers happily joined the Bolshevik Revolution because it allowed them to settle scores with the hated Romanovs).

    But the youngsters in the Mamleev group didn’t want to follow in their parents footsteps. They wished for the “mysterious and forbidden”, they were into “sexual experimentation”, drugs and all kinds of esotericism. Some of them became famous, Geydar Djamal and Dugin among them. But most became druggies and sexual deviants, like Dugin’s first wife (and mother of his first child, a son) that is barely mentioned in Dugin’s biography and who was among the founding members of the first Perestroika time Soviet LGBTQ organization.

    During that time, the young Dugin, who had the opportunity to access the KGB Third Reich archives through his dad’s connections, became radicalized and joined the first Russian nationalist organization - the Pamyat’ (Memory) Society. Then after Pamyat’ played its part in the Soviets’ downfall, Dugin joined the bisexual writer Limonov and the punk-rock singer Yegor Letov to start the National-Bolshevik party. It was much later (around a decade later) than Dugin became the guru of Traditionalism and returned to his Old Believer roots. So when he talks about extremes of sexual liberation, family structure disruption and individualism, he knows what he is talking about.

    For those who understand Russian, the young Dugin in 1988:

    https://youtu.be/cLLEAAaL6Jo?feature=shared

    He has always been charismatic. And of course he aged well. He had a strong influence on the “Dark Internationale” across FUSSR (the lady responsible for the Azov Battalion “spirituality” was one of Dugin’s pupils) and Europe, even US (he influenced the Alt Right). Just like Djamal had a strong influence on the Islamists and Muslim minorities’ nationalists in the RusFed.

    Yeah, a sad thing to mention, both Djamal and Dugin got their children killed. Djamal got his son murdered by Wagnerites in Africa where he was part of a reporter group who investigated Wagner Group. Darya Dugina was of course killed by SBU, who most probably targeted her dad and not her.

    Karma for all those kids they influenced towards radicalism, some of whom got murdered by the RusFedian state itself?

    God only knows…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    First welcome back.

    Dugin wrote in The Foundations of GeopoliticsChina, which posed a threat to Russia, had to be “territorially disintegrated, divided, and politically and administratively partitioned” and “split up to the greatest extent possible.

    …Then he got on the CCP’s payroll at Fudan 复旦 University.

    You can see how some Chinese, view him, and the type of wignats gravitated towards him, to be pathetically degenerate.

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    This is what happens when Japanese Bro's sow Anti Chinese sentiment, it boomerangs on them!

    https://twitter.com/RihitoPhysicist/status/1785684551987241109

    Replies: @QCIC, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Hi Bromance, nice reading you again. I agree that Dugin is not to be taken too seriously. Anyway, I wrote enough about him.

    On another (and more interesting) topic, I wanted to ask you about the origins of the Japanese Imperial dynasty. Are they descendants of some ancient clan from the Korean Peninsula that conquered the native peoples of ancient Japan ?

    I didn’t really look into it, but I am sure that being knowledgeable about the history of the Far East you’d have some interesting facts to share.

    Thanks in advance!

    Replies: @songbird

  863. • Replies: @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Supplement for Mikel and Dmitry.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/influencer-industry-marketing-fraud-discrimination-unethical-deals-content-creators-brands-2024-4
     
    Thanks. That actually looks like an article that could interest Dmitry. I see they mention Michael Jordan endorsing sneaker brands. They also approach the subject from a leftist angle:

    "Some influencers faced racial discrimination during an in-person brand-sponsored trip, BI previously reported. And Dylan Mulvaney, an influencer who partnered with brands such as Nike and Bud Light, faced a barrage of anti-trans hate and harassment ... She said the resulting threats were so bad she traveled out of the country to escape the backlash."


    Racism and bigotry in the influencer industry too, of course.

    I don't really see anything about fitness or supplements but I appreciate your changing the subject. I've generally used this blog to procrastinate but lately I find that when I refresh the page and see what the latest comments are, it actually increases my motivation to go back to work.

    Speaking of influencers, YT may be in the hands of the woke elite but it's an amazing source of information. Apart from science, health, exercise and all sorts of interesting content, you can also learn to do any type of manual work, from building a full house on an empty lot to butchering a deer. Lately I've even been using it for my hiking projects. There's hardly a summit or popular route that somebody hasn't posted a video about. They're usually quite amateurish and, in general, cannot compete with summitpost or alltrails information-wise. But they give you a much more vivid impression of what you're going to find on that route.

    IIRC you were into hiking yourself. If you haven't checked alltrails.com, I recommend you do. For all the thousands of trails in North America that don't involve climbing a summit, it's an invaluable source of information. I really hate this trend of all websites in the world trying to convince you to register with them. It's just insane the amount of passwords that we need to have these days (most of them with stupid complexity and expiration requirements, to make matters worse) but I don't regret having registered with alltrails. It's provided lots of ideas for winter hikes in the snow and desert treks.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  864. @A123
    @QCIC


    Iron beam is still reasonably large and expensive,
     
    Iron Beam is still a prototype. So, high cost and problematic reliability are expected at this point in the development lifecycle.

    Israel does better than the U.S. bringing costs down. An Iron Dome interceptor is *much* less expensive than a Patriot.

    Laser systems can use the built in camera for target and tracking or start with info from radars and electronic warfare scanners.
     
    I concur. A free standing camera system will have great difficulty telling friend from foe. It will work much better if supported by other technologies.

    Probably goes on a dedicated small armored vehicle. ... Probably need lots of these vehicles since they will be obvious prime targets,
     
    Perhaps separate radar vehicles that support the command crew / beam platform? Sort of like a Pantsir three vehicle system, but you might need only two.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    The major attack vector for drones seems to be slow-moving swarms.

    Lasers, unless they are low-powered, need cool down periods after firing.

    Am skeptical that lasers are the right answer to drones.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    If you could make a star trek fazer the Army and Elon Musk would already have built a big factory in Mexico or something.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @QCIC
    @songbird

    20 mm or 23 mm cannon rounds with time fuse is probably the best answer. I don't know if these exist at the moment. The seeker pointing the cannon (optical or radar) knows the distance to the drone and sets the fuse delay as it goes out the muzzle. This feature exists on the Gepard 35 mm for a long time and also on 30 mm. The reason for smaller ammo is so the vehicle can carry enough rounds to handle a swarm. If it needs 20 rounds to kill the target with impact fusing it takes too long for each target and also expends more rounds than they can afford. The 35 mm and 30 mm rounds are physically fairly large so a small vehicle cannot carry too many of these.

    For Russia this could just be an updated Shilka with new type of ammo and improved radar.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4_Shilka

    A laser can help if there is large swarm of fairly soft drones. The countermeasure is to shoot a bunch of smoke grenades in front of the laser.

  865. @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.
     
    I guess you are pointing this out to contrast with the current clown you believe to be purebred Ukrainian?

    Replies: @AP, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Beckow, @Mikhail

    No, I was answering a simple question.

  866. @songbird
    @A123

    The major attack vector for drones seems to be slow-moving swarms.

    Lasers, unless they are low-powered, need cool down periods after firing.

    Am skeptical that lasers are the right answer to drones.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    If you could make a star trek fazer the Army and Elon Musk would already have built a big factory in Mexico or something.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    IMO, if lasers made sense, they would already being doing test runs for Breakthrough Starshot.

  867. @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.
     
    I guess you are pointing this out to contrast with the current clown you believe to be purebred Ukrainian?

    Replies: @AP, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Beckow, @Mikhail

    From last thread.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-246/#comment-6512583

    You should know that Western books on Japanese history are full of lies as well, with Russian collaboration.

    What Soviets did to Japanese-Chinese relationship was analogous to:

    1. If China planted top level agents in Moscow, Kiev and Washington that agitated for war against each other, i.e. Sorge spy ring

    2. If China was éminence grise behind kidnapping of Zelensky to coerce him to take a hardline position against Russia, i.e. Xi’an Incident

    3. If China trained and sent white-looking spies to Donbass to instigate hostility between Ukraine and Russia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maki_Mirage

    Snake like behavior on part of Soviets.

  868. @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.
     
    I guess you are pointing this out to contrast with the current clown you believe to be purebred Ukrainian?

    Replies: @AP, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Beckow, @Mikhail

    AP’s is in a mental collapse, he calls it purely how he wants it to be in his head. I have always wondered what happens to ideologues as their world collapses – we see: denial of reality, lying to yourself, hope for miracles..but most visible is the obsessive cherry-picking, desperately looking for good news – defined as anything “bad” happening to the winning side.

    I suspect there were Nazi Champagne bottles when FDR died. The fanatical Ukies today are latching to mostly made-up irrelevancies like diesel fires in Russia, years old throw-away-lines…and of course Finland! Anything to not see their failed ideological project…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    are latching to mostly made-up irrelevancies like diesel fires in Russia,

     

    Two more Russian oil refineries damaged by Ukrainians bombs yesterday. Irrelevancies in Beckow's mixed-up crazy mind:

    https://youtu.be/QcuP6A5DFiw

    Replies: @Beckow

  869. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    Today is May 2, 2024. It’s ten years since Odessa massacre in 2014, which many see as the point of no return. People who chose to be blind do not see the connection between charred corpses in Odessa on May 2, 2014, and huge ever-growing flag-decorated cemeteries all over Ukraine now.

    Replies: @AP

    Today is May 2, 2024. It’s ten years since Odessa massacre in 2014

    These are the pro-Russian thugs who tried to violently take control of the streets of Odesa 10 years ago (as their compatriots had successfully done in Donbas) when they assaulted a Ukrainian unity march and killed one of the Ukrainians.

    They were defeated after clashes on the streets, driven to their headquarters, and many died in a fire after they and the Ukrainians exchanged Molotov cocktails at one another.

    Russians used the lie of a deliberate massacre of blameless Russian victims to stir up a rebellion in faraway Donbas that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Donbassers. And eventually a war with 100,000s of dead Russians and Ukrainians.

    Lies can have tragic consequences when used by bad people.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Over 40 people were burnt to death by the Ukie nationalist mob and you are defending it? I hope you realize there will be consequences and Russia will try to punish the perpetrators. You are cheering on and defending a very serious crime...

    You are really losing it.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    , @AP
    @AP

    Here is one of the “victims” who died in the Union building, Gennady Kushnarev. He is not a native of Odessa, he is from Chelyabinsk in Russia but his father a military officer moved there.

    Gennady was screaming about taking a Kalashnikov and shooting people like dogs, and that Odesa is a Russian city.

    It didn’t end well for this violent thug on that day, this colonist who moved to Ukraine from the Urals and wished to kill Ukrainians in their own country.

    And the lie that he and the others were innocent victims of a “massacre” helped start and fuel a war that would kill thousands soon afterward and 100,000s 8 years later.



    https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1785826484810313868?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @QCIC
    @AP

    These things happen when outside forces such as the West stir up conflict which leads to civil war. People die on all sides

  870. @AP
    @Beckow


    America’s shock-and-awe bombing did not kill more civilians.


    Your favorite source wiki says that they killed between 150k and one million
     
    No it doesn’t. Why do you lie about something for which there is a link that you provided?

    American bombing during the shock and awe invasion of 2003 killed between 3,200 and 7,300 Iraqis:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

    It’s also in the same link you provided.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    Did you forget how to read?

    The 150,000-1 million figure (first number anee those killed violently, latter includes deaths from illness or disease) includes the deaths of Iraqis at the hands of other Iraqi during civil wars following the invasion. Indeed your own link stated 12% of those killed were by coalition forces.

    Once again, you were caught lying, so you try to change the subject.

    I have never defended the criminal invasion of Iraq.

    What was the “WMDs” narrative you were spinning above

     

    Beckow: too dumb to understand that I compared the American WMD excuse to the equally dumb Russian NATO excuse.

    And the “we won” boasts

     

    Stating the banal fact that America won the war is not the same as defending the criminal invasion.

    Germany defeated Poland in 1939. Does stating that defend the criminal invasion of Poland?

    It is simply not the same as starting a war against Iraq half-way around the world or bombing civilians in Donbas as Kiev did.

     

    Your midwit (at best) mind got confused again. The precedent for Kiev bombing rebellious Donbas in 2014 was Russia bombing rebellious Chechnya in the 1990s.

    Transdnistria was the precedent for Kosovo.

    you are so desperate caught in lies and inconsistency that you will say anything
     
    You’ve described yourself very well, as we see above. The best thing you wrote in that post. Congratulations.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Casualties of the Iraq War…

    Wiki says150k to 1 million, the best estimate is 300-400k. What part of the “Casualties of the Iraq war” you don’t understand? Invasion phase was a short initial sub-phase of the war, not the full war. Don’t play an idiot.

    Are you going to exclude people in WW2 or in Vietnam who died in the later stages of war? Or claim that some Jews-Poles-Roma died in camps of typhus and Soviet POWs of starvation so it doesn’t count? You are really one sick puppy, get a hold of yourself: it was hundreds of thousands victims of US war on Iraq.

    Iraq war was illegal and US eventually lost, but there were no consequences for its authors. Your personal belated opposition is irrelevant – we are comparing the wars on the countries level. US-UK started the aggressive murderous war – and Kiev prides itself on being a 100%+ US-UK ally so they own it…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Wiki says150k to 1 million, the best estimate is 300-400k. What part of the “Casualties of the Iraq war” you don’t understand
     
    Wiki says 150k died by violence and the up to a million died when including disease, poor medical care or lack of medicine during the chaotic civil wars, etc. They died as a result of the war but were not killed by the Americans, were not placed in labor camps, etc.

    Wiki also said that of the 150k who died of violence, only about 12% were killed by Coalition forces and the other 88% were killed by Iraqis who were killing one another in brutal sectarian warfare.

    You lied about Americans killing 100,000s of Iraqis.

    Unless you were too dumb to understand what you read.

    Invasion phase was a short initial sub-phase of the war
     
    You specifically mentioned “shock and awe” which was the 5 week invasion of Iraq, when the Americans occupied the entire country including Baghdad and destroyed the Iraqi military. They only killed 3,300-7,200 civilians while doing so.

    Meanwhile the Russians killed 10,000s of Ukrainians when capturing only about 15% of Ukraine (their maximum extent in early 2022).

    Apparently you are so desperate and confused that you do not even remember what you yourself were arguing.

    Iraq war was illegal

     

    Of course. As is the Russian one.

    Your personal belated opposition

     

    I was one of the 30% of Americans who opposed the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. So as usual you lie. It was not belated.
  871. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Today is May 2, 2024. It’s ten years since Odessa massacre in 2014
     
    These are the pro-Russian thugs who tried to violently take control of the streets of Odesa 10 years ago (as their compatriots had successfully done in Donbas) when they assaulted a Ukrainian unity march and killed one of the Ukrainians.

    They were defeated after clashes on the streets, driven to their headquarters, and many died in a fire after they and the Ukrainians exchanged Molotov cocktails at one another.

    Russians used the lie of a deliberate massacre of blameless Russian victims to stir up a rebellion in faraway Donbas that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Donbassers. And eventually a war with 100,000s of dead Russians and Ukrainians.

    Lies can have tragic consequences when used by bad people.



    https://twitter.com/yurapalyanytsia/status/1785926751274627348?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @QCIC

    Over 40 people were burnt to death by the Ukie nationalist mob and you are defending it? I hope you realize there will be consequences and Russia will try to punish the perpetrators. You are cheering on and defending a very serious crime…

    You are really losing it.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I hope you realize there will be consequences and Russia will try to punish the perpetrators.
     
    Not a single perpetrator of this massacre was punished by the Kiev regime. That tells you everything you need to know.

    The perps will certainly be identified and punished, although the punishment is unlikely to be appropriately severe: by Russian law maximum they can get is life in prison, whereas even hanging or drawing and quartering would be too humane for that scum and those who directed it.
    , @AP
    @Beckow


    Over 40 people were burnt to death by the Ukie nationalist mob and you are defending it
     
    You defend and excuse a war with 100,000s dead, and even admit that you find it entertaining. You are thus the last to complain.

    Unlike you, I see nothing good or entertaining about such deaths. It is a tragedy that 10 years ago violent pro-Russian thugs chose to assault a pro-Ukrainian crowd and chose to kill. Even though the pro-Russians ended up losing more lives that day.

    I do maintain that the deaths of countless civilians (including Russian ones) and even of soldiers, in part as a consequence of the fake massacre narrative you repeat, are far more tragic than the deaths of some of the violent and murderous pro-Russian thugs who died 10 years ago, such as this Chelyabinsk-born colonist living in Odesa who on that day was screaming about shooting people like dogs and Odessa is Russia:



    https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1785826484810313868?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

  872. AP says:
    @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Today is May 2, 2024. It’s ten years since Odessa massacre in 2014
     
    These are the pro-Russian thugs who tried to violently take control of the streets of Odesa 10 years ago (as their compatriots had successfully done in Donbas) when they assaulted a Ukrainian unity march and killed one of the Ukrainians.

    They were defeated after clashes on the streets, driven to their headquarters, and many died in a fire after they and the Ukrainians exchanged Molotov cocktails at one another.

    Russians used the lie of a deliberate massacre of blameless Russian victims to stir up a rebellion in faraway Donbas that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Donbassers. And eventually a war with 100,000s of dead Russians and Ukrainians.

    Lies can have tragic consequences when used by bad people.



    https://twitter.com/yurapalyanytsia/status/1785926751274627348?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @QCIC

    Here is one of the “victims” who died in the Union building, Gennady Kushnarev. He is not a native of Odessa, he is from Chelyabinsk in Russia but his father a military officer moved there.

    Gennady was screaming about taking a Kalashnikov and shooting people like dogs, and that Odesa is a Russian city.

    It didn’t end well for this violent thug on that day, this colonist who moved to Ukraine from the Urals and wished to kill Ukrainians in their own country.

    And the lie that he and the others were innocent victims of a “massacre” helped start and fuel a war that would kill thousands soon afterward and 100,000s 8 years later.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @AP

    Just one out of 48. No small wonder why some feel it's a moral imperative to get rid of the Kiev regime. BTW, if he was one of the deceased and if he did indeed say that, he wouldn't be burned alive in a truly civilized country.

  873. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    AP's is in a mental collapse, he calls it purely how he wants it to be in his head. I have always wondered what happens to ideologues as their world collapses - we see: denial of reality, lying to yourself, hope for miracles..but most visible is the obsessive cherry-picking, desperately looking for good news - defined as anything "bad" happening to the winning side.

    I suspect there were Nazi Champagne bottles when FDR died. The fanatical Ukies today are latching to mostly made-up irrelevancies like diesel fires in Russia, years old throw-away-lines...and of course Finland! Anything to not see their failed ideological project...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    are latching to mostly made-up irrelevancies like diesel fires in Russia,

    Two more Russian oil refineries damaged by Ukrainians bombs yesterday. Irrelevancies in Beckow’s mixed-up crazy mind:

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    It is not going to make any difference in the war but it has a marginal effect in raising global gas prices. Washington doesn't like it one bit.

    In comparison Ukraine's energy production is down 30% in one year - Russia justifies destroying the Ukie power infrastructure by Kiev's drones attacks on Russian refineries.

    You are losing even this "energy war" - and rather badly. Russia has destroyed about 100 times more. Ukrainian energy-gas assets than vice-versa. Apart from not being very smart you also seem to completely lack math skills...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  874. @Beckow
    @AP

    Over 40 people were burnt to death by the Ukie nationalist mob and you are defending it? I hope you realize there will be consequences and Russia will try to punish the perpetrators. You are cheering on and defending a very serious crime...

    You are really losing it.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    I hope you realize there will be consequences and Russia will try to punish the perpetrators.

    Not a single perpetrator of this massacre was punished by the Kiev regime. That tells you everything you need to know.

    The perps will certainly be identified and punished, although the punishment is unlikely to be appropriately severe: by Russian law maximum they can get is life in prison, whereas even hanging or drawing and quartering would be too humane for that scum and those who directed it.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  875. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.

    The attempts to shoe horn in the 613 rules for Jews into a Christian context so transparently clueless that…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpWGz_tOvc

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.

    So back to thinking I am Jewish?

    That’s a nice fictional depiction of a European looking Jesus but I fail to see what it has to do with anything. I think it shows that your mind is heavily composed of false images and you most likely live in a state of general confusion that is clearly influenced by the entertainment industry.

    Oh BTW the producer of that series is Jewish:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Grade

    I bet you had no idea that you enjoyed Jewish entertainment so much.

    I don’t watch any TV Jesus and I’m amazed that most Christians aren’t offended by the idea of turning Jesus into a TV special or 2 hour movie.

    Gosh I still haven’t seen your hero Anglin do a post on Putin’s Jewish connections. Now why would that be? He constantly posts about Jews in the US government but never Russia. Why is that Wokechoke? I thought only the MSM maintains double standards.

    Putin has banner created to show friendship with Netanyahu
    Is that a real banner or was it photoshopped?

    Now scurry back to the Anglin blog like a rat and listen to him rant about Jews and White women while NEVER talking of Putin’s Jewish connections. Your incel hero is just as biased as any MSM talking head. You fully support bias when it favors your fuzzies.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Yeah it’s a Jew.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  876. @Bashibuzuk
    @AP

    Why does it matter ?

    Does ethnic descent determine loyalty in post-Soviet Ukraine ?

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    It doesn’t determine loyalty, as AP has demonstrably shown in his follow-up answers, but neither should it be discounted when weighing somebody’s loyalties. Do you feel that JJ was way off in making his original point that Yanukovych was most likely interested in keeping Ukraine under the Russian sphere, pointing to his non-Ukrainian ethnic roots? I would point out that for somebody having this inclination, it was paradoxical that he held out so long and supported a pro-EU platform.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack

    Yanuk and his gang were not really pro-Russian. They were entirely “pro-themselves”. They tried to get the sweetest deal possible between RusFed and EC and they failed. And his ancestry has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Is Avakov an ethnic Ukrainian? What about Budanov (a typically Katsap name) ? Arestovitch has Polish Belarusian ancestry and probably Jewish origins on his mom’s side. My odessite friends have Russian, Polish, Jewish ancestry and they mostly speak Russian. But they hate Putin and love Ukraine. OTOH, Mozgovoy was a Khokhol, but he was a pro-Russian militia leader. Buzina was a Khokhol, but he was an anti-nationalist and got killed for that. The diaspora Ukrainians such as yourself and AP put an ethnic angle into this conflict. But it’s different from a war between two ethnic groups. It is first and foremost a war between two cultural realms: the RusFedian one and the Atlanticist one. Neither of these two cultural realms is truly the right one for the Slavs.

  877. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Bashibuzuk

    First welcome back.

    Dugin wrote in The Foundations of Geopolitics-- China, which posed a threat to Russia, had to be “territorially disintegrated, divided, and politically and administratively partitioned” and “split up to the greatest extent possible.

    https://pic4.zhimg.com/v2-781725117214fd2965ece84dbd530d2b_r.jpg

    ...Then he got on the CCP's payroll at Fudan 复旦 University.

    https://p0.51img.ca/i/63063b77f32e3:original.jpeg

    You can see how some Chinese, view him, and the type of wignats gravitated towards him, to be pathetically degenerate.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Bashibuzuk

    This is what happens when Japanese Bro’s sow Anti Chinese sentiment, it boomerangs on them!

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    She must be a secret fan of Superwog.

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Actually, most of the anti-Chinese propaganda is spread by self-hating Chinese 支黑, not Japanese.

    Same as when you Ivans and Pavels diss each other in front of Westerners, you make each other all look worse.

    https://i.postimg.cc/Gh9bfYh1/Sukuri-nshotto.png

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  878. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.

    The attempts to shoe horn in the 613 rules for Jews into a Christian context so transparently clueless that…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpWGz_tOvc

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.

    I don’t know about that particular personage, who is clearly hopeless and not worth responding to (whether it is paid or unpaid). However, I want to say that my experience of dealing with many people suggests that the proportion of scum among Jews (at least in Russia and the US) is about the same as among representatives of any nationality. Some are despicable scum, but most individual Jews are in the range between OK and good people.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AnonfromTN

    Clarification: when I say “people”, I exclude politicians. They are a special kind of despicable scum. Thank goodness, I never dealt with them and fully intend to keep it that way.

  879. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    are latching to mostly made-up irrelevancies like diesel fires in Russia,

     

    Two more Russian oil refineries damaged by Ukrainians bombs yesterday. Irrelevancies in Beckow's mixed-up crazy mind:

    https://youtu.be/QcuP6A5DFiw

    Replies: @Beckow

    It is not going to make any difference in the war but it has a marginal effect in raising global gas prices. Washington doesn’t like it one bit.

    In comparison Ukraine’s energy production is down 30% in one year – Russia justifies destroying the Ukie power infrastructure by Kiev’s drones attacks on Russian refineries.

    You are losing even this “energy war” – and rather badly. Russia has destroyed about 100 times more. Ukrainian energy-gas assets than vice-versa. Apart from not being very smart you also seem to completely lack math skills…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I wasn't aware that I was demonstrating any math skills here. I brought up that two Russian oil refineries were recently hit, were there more??...

    BTW, I spent a good deal of my time during my working career running 25 separate DB (Defined Benefit) retirement plans, including all of the relevant tax reporting. I was well compensated and always got a handsome bonus for my work at the end of the year. I hope that your yearly bonuses for running your remodeling business are generous too. Although quite frankly, with the amount of time that you waste here defending your Russian superman Putler, I would guess that business must be kind of slow? :-)

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikhail

  880. @A123
    @sudden death

    The pro-genocide Hamas supporters have shown their true face;) (1)


    As a reminder, these protests have very little to do with the poor Palestinians and more to do with a Marxist takeover of the US.

    One radical left extremist said the quiet part out loud to hundreds of youngsters this week:

    "There's only one solution, intifada revolution. We must have a revolution so we can have a socialist reconstruction of the USA."
     

     
    SJW college administrations tried to protect the socialist revolutionaries. However, once state and local forces arrive, the genociders find it hard to keep their Marxism going. Here's one being taken away. (2)

     
    https://media.breitbart.com/media/2024/05/UCLA-police-break-Getty-e1714652444572.jpg
     

    It places the Democrats in a tough spot. Can they unwind their history of pandering to the Fascist Stormtroopers of Antifa ? It seems unlikely. The toothless House bill was an unconvincing bit of sham theater that will soon be forgotten.

    -- The more the DNC does to satisfy pro-genocide Hamas progressives, --
    -- The more they push swing voters to MAGA. --


    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/all-hell-breaks-out-ucla-marxist-protesters-battle-cops

    (2) https://www.breitbart.com/education/2024/05/02/ucla-police-break-up-palestine-solidarity-encampment-arrest-activists/

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @A123
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Every country has problems. Fortunately, the U.S. will get rid of one in a few months.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiI2OubR8A6bCEWwkEabra34df8YWJGzmvXkbi5elI5-8St6uzvTFJa-hwlpnIdFdB-eqVD2zgsKH85AgYgZurevna4BWvOvLtrKBBA0_GZJhSbT34JOFA_c8vGqG43oS4UjfesKhJLzJF0th50f0UjlJd1EdQNFWZEnoY29WsJ4eYrkGu8FcQkhCpk8nc/s594/1%20fsfdgddfgdg.jpg

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Now I know why they put him in prison. Because he disagreed with the compulsory vaccination…

    🙂

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  881. @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Look into Golovin, he was a unique individual. It’s a shame that he is not better known. He was their “spiritual mentor “, Dugin once said that “Golovin is a god” (aoodoo bil’Lah from this filthy Russian schirk !). Golovin was an exceptionally gifted individual and he was psychologically strong enough to go against the Soviet way of life, against all its moral and social norms. When Mamleev was exiled from the Soviet Union, Golovin became the de facto guru of that circle.

    https://golovinfond.ru/

    That is site has been created by the Dugin’s Eurasianist movement members. And when we see that people such as Olena Semeniaka are borderline left hand path folks, we shouldn’t be surprised, because Golovin rejected outright the distinction between left and right hand paths. For him it was just all human misconceptions. And perhaps he was right about that.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

    As you probably know, Dugin’s books have been banned in the US. I’ve never read any of his books and am looking for opportunities to do so, preferably in English. Even Ron Unz doesn’t provide any of his faire within his banned book project https://www.unz.com/book/, A quick perusal of JSTOR only shows articles related to Dugin? Any help is appreciated.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Mr. Hack

    Arktos books has English translations of a lot of his books, here: arktos.com The prices are listed in dollars so I guess they will send them to the US.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  882. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    Casualties of the Iraq War...

    Wiki says150k to 1 million, the best estimate is 300-400k. What part of the "Casualties of the Iraq war" you don't understand? Invasion phase was a short initial sub-phase of the war, not the full war. Don't play an idiot.

    Are you going to exclude people in WW2 or in Vietnam who died in the later stages of war? Or claim that some Jews-Poles-Roma died in camps of typhus and Soviet POWs of starvation so it doesn't count? You are really one sick puppy, get a hold of yourself: it was hundreds of thousands victims of US war on Iraq.

    Iraq war was illegal and US eventually lost, but there were no consequences for its authors. Your personal belated opposition is irrelevant - we are comparing the wars on the countries level. US-UK started the aggressive murderous war - and Kiev prides itself on being a 100%+ US-UK ally so they own it...

    Replies: @AP

    Wiki says150k to 1 million, the best estimate is 300-400k. What part of the “Casualties of the Iraq war” you don’t understand

    Wiki says 150k died by violence and the up to a million died when including disease, poor medical care or lack of medicine during the chaotic civil wars, etc. They died as a result of the war but were not killed by the Americans, were not placed in labor camps, etc.

    Wiki also said that of the 150k who died of violence, only about 12% were killed by Coalition forces and the other 88% were killed by Iraqis who were killing one another in brutal sectarian warfare.

    You lied about Americans killing 100,000s of Iraqis.

    Unless you were too dumb to understand what you read.

    Invasion phase was a short initial sub-phase of the war

    You specifically mentioned “shock and awe” which was the 5 week invasion of Iraq, when the Americans occupied the entire country including Baghdad and destroyed the Iraqi military. They only killed 3,300-7,200 civilians while doing so.

    Meanwhile the Russians killed 10,000s of Ukrainians when capturing only about 15% of Ukraine (their maximum extent in early 2022).

    Apparently you are so desperate and confused that you do not even remember what you yourself were arguing.

    Iraq war was illegal

    Of course. As is the Russian one.

    Your personal belated opposition

    I was one of the 30% of Americans who opposed the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. So as usual you lie. It was not belated.

  883. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    It is not going to make any difference in the war but it has a marginal effect in raising global gas prices. Washington doesn't like it one bit.

    In comparison Ukraine's energy production is down 30% in one year - Russia justifies destroying the Ukie power infrastructure by Kiev's drones attacks on Russian refineries.

    You are losing even this "energy war" - and rather badly. Russia has destroyed about 100 times more. Ukrainian energy-gas assets than vice-versa. Apart from not being very smart you also seem to completely lack math skills...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I wasn’t aware that I was demonstrating any math skills here. I brought up that two Russian oil refineries were recently hit, were there more??…

    BTW, I spent a good deal of my time during my working career running 25 separate DB (Defined Benefit) retirement plans, including all of the relevant tax reporting. I was well compensated and always got a handsome bonus for my work at the end of the year. I hope that your yearly bonuses for running your remodeling business are generous too. Although quite frankly, with the amount of time that you waste here defending your Russian superman Putler, I would guess that business must be kind of slow? 🙂

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...I wasn’t aware that I was demonstrating any math skills here. I brought up that two Russian oil refineries were recently hit
     
    You certainly were not. Let's compare: few Russian refineries against 30% of the Ukie energy generation destroyed. Tit-for-tat. Is the math too advanced for you?

    my working career running 25 separate Defined Benefit retirement plans
     
    Good for you :)...we call it 'dumb money', have you heard the term? I make money from those plans, like taking $ from retards, they always buy high, sell low and have no idea what's going on. What you did was book-keeping not real math...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    DBs have long become a thing of the past from what I've seen. Plenty of 5310s.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  884. @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.

    So back to thinking I am Jewish?

    That's a nice fictional depiction of a European looking Jesus but I fail to see what it has to do with anything. I think it shows that your mind is heavily composed of false images and you most likely live in a state of general confusion that is clearly influenced by the entertainment industry.

    Oh BTW the producer of that series is Jewish:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Grade

    I bet you had no idea that you enjoyed Jewish entertainment so much.

    I don't watch any TV Jesus and I'm amazed that most Christians aren't offended by the idea of turning Jesus into a TV special or 2 hour movie.

    Gosh I still haven't seen your hero Anglin do a post on Putin's Jewish connections. Now why would that be? He constantly posts about Jews in the US government but never Russia. Why is that Wokechoke? I thought only the MSM maintains double standards.

    Putin has banner created to show friendship with Netanyahu
    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/5f78eaaac05c07471f35641a8dca716c145c90fe/2276_758_3126_1876/master/3126.jpg?width=1200&height=900&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=419099653e2129af2bc23eaa98f77d7b

    Is that a real banner or was it photoshopped?

    Now scurry back to the Anglin blog like a rat and listen to him rant about Jews and White women while NEVER talking of Putin's Jewish connections. Your incel hero is just as biased as any MSM talking head. You fully support bias when it favors your fuzzies.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Yeah it’s a Jew.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Did you have any more Jewish TV shows you'd like to cite as part of some statement about me being Jewish? Boy you really embarrassed yourself again.

    Hey speaking of Jews in television here is Putin's Jewish Dr. No stating that they shouldn't be ashamed of Russian Imperialism
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_kxmbNcEqE

    I haven't seen Anglin mention Putin's fellow dwarf propagandist once. Now why is that Wokechoke?

    Anglin treats Putin's Jewish connections like CNN treats Black crime. A Black thug could on a 5 state killing spree and CNN would run a headline about Emmit Till remembrance day.

    Putin could give Netenyahu a blowjob on live television and Anglin would do a post on how Hitler wasn't so bad and liked puppies.

    But you're fine with that as you are completely unprincipled and fully support censorship in favor of your own views. You would censor me at Unz if you couldn't, wouldn't you? Well I wouldn't censor you or anyone here. Unlike you I have a pair of balls and can face reality like a man and not like some cocooned White liberal college girl that can't handle dissenting opinion.

  885. @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    As you probably know, Dugin's books have been banned in the US. I've never read any of his books and am looking for opportunities to do so, preferably in English. Even Ron Unz doesn't provide any of his faire within his banned book project https://www.unz.com/book/, A quick perusal of JSTOR only shows articles related to Dugin? Any help is appreciated.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    Arktos books has English translations of a lot of his books, here: arktos.com The prices are listed in dollars so I guess they will send them to the US.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts

    With 12 books to chose from, my needs are fully satisfied. If you, or anybody else here could make 2-3 recommendations, I'm on my way.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Bashibuzuk

  886. @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    Dude, your account of your Christian upbringing is so off the mark that it stinks of gefilte.
     
    I don’t know about that particular personage, who is clearly hopeless and not worth responding to (whether it is paid or unpaid). However, I want to say that my experience of dealing with many people suggests that the proportion of scum among Jews (at least in Russia and the US) is about the same as among representatives of any nationality. Some are despicable scum, but most individual Jews are in the range between OK and good people.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Clarification: when I say “people”, I exclude politicians. They are a special kind of despicable scum. Thank goodness, I never dealt with them and fully intend to keep it that way.

  887. @Coconuts
    @Mr. Hack

    Arktos books has English translations of a lot of his books, here: arktos.com The prices are listed in dollars so I guess they will send them to the US.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    With 12 books to chose from, my needs are fully satisfied. If you, or anybody else here could make 2-3 recommendations, I’m on my way.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Begin here:

    https://arktos.com/product/the-fourth-political-theory/

    Do not buy more than one. His books are as dense as Hegel's and you may not be able to stomach even one. Read slow. Skimmers are punished in this sort of book.

    Michael Millerman is the Dugin for Dummies source for English speakers. Doubtless there are better sources for that in Russian but I do not read Russian. Millerman is translator on a couple of the later Arktos books.

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack

    Mr Hack, IMHO Dugin hasn’t ever contributed anything truly original.

    I remember first reading his articles in the late 1990ies - early 2000ies and even then, when he was still somewhat of a fringe figure, only “widely known in narrow circles”, I read them for lulz. Today, he has become less fringe and more cringe. That’s the difference. And his daughter, who was a truly nice, positive and bright young woman died because her dad got into all that crazy fringe politics. That’s a truly tragic story, if I was him I would let it all go and retire into some Old Believer скит to pray our Lord for forgiveness.



    Bottom line, a friendly advice; if you want to understand Dugin, then read Evola, read Guenon, read Junger, read Faye or Alain de Benoist, but don’t waste your time on Dugin himself. Those who imagine Dugin as some “gray eminence” behind Putin’s back don’t understand RusFed.

    Golovin, Dugin’s mentor and guru on the other hand was a truly outstanding person, although probably not a good person from a Christian perspective. If you are able to understand enough spoken Russian, I strongly suggest you look into these videos on the link I already posted to Emil.

    https://golovinfond.ru/

    Replies: @Mikhail

  888. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    Over 40 people were burnt to death by the Ukie nationalist mob and you are defending it? I hope you realize there will be consequences and Russia will try to punish the perpetrators. You are cheering on and defending a very serious crime...

    You are really losing it.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Over 40 people were burnt to death by the Ukie nationalist mob and you are defending it

    You defend and excuse a war with 100,000s dead, and even admit that you find it entertaining. You are thus the last to complain.

    Unlike you, I see nothing good or entertaining about such deaths. It is a tragedy that 10 years ago violent pro-Russian thugs chose to assault a pro-Ukrainian crowd and chose to kill. Even though the pro-Russians ended up losing more lives that day.

    I do maintain that the deaths of countless civilians (including Russian ones) and even of soldiers, in part as a consequence of the fake massacre narrative you repeat, are far more tragic than the deaths of some of the violent and murderous pro-Russian thugs who died 10 years ago, such as this Chelyabinsk-born colonist living in Odesa who on that day was screaming about shooting people like dogs and Odessa is Russia:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    The massacre of Russians in Odessa was real, not 'fake'. You are defending it and lying that the Russians deserved it - you are justifying a horrible crime. Think about it.

    I won't convince you, you lack the basic evenhandedness required in a rational discussion. At this point you seem very angry that Kiev-Nato is losing the war they provoked. Maybe you even regret the stupid behaviors and decisions by Kiev in the past. But you can't admit it, it's too early.

    Ukie nationalists will regret their crimes against the Russian minority. East Prussia Germans probably regretted what they did when they lost the war to Russia in 1945. That's the way of the world, we can't go back...

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Is he Jewish? Kushnarev sounds like a Jewish last name. Similar to Jared Kushner.

  889. QCIC says:
    @songbird
    @A123

    The major attack vector for drones seems to be slow-moving swarms.

    Lasers, unless they are low-powered, need cool down periods after firing.

    Am skeptical that lasers are the right answer to drones.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    20 mm or 23 mm cannon rounds with time fuse is probably the best answer. I don’t know if these exist at the moment. The seeker pointing the cannon (optical or radar) knows the distance to the drone and sets the fuse delay as it goes out the muzzle. This feature exists on the Gepard 35 mm for a long time and also on 30 mm. The reason for smaller ammo is so the vehicle can carry enough rounds to handle a swarm. If it needs 20 rounds to kill the target with impact fusing it takes too long for each target and also expends more rounds than they can afford. The 35 mm and 30 mm rounds are physically fairly large so a small vehicle cannot carry too many of these.

    For Russia this could just be an updated Shilka with new type of ammo and improved radar.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4_Shilka

    A laser can help if there is large swarm of fairly soft drones. The countermeasure is to shoot a bunch of smoke grenades in front of the laser.

    • Thanks: songbird
  890. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Yeah it’s a Jew.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Did you have any more Jewish TV shows you’d like to cite as part of some statement about me being Jewish? Boy you really embarrassed yourself again.

    Hey speaking of Jews in television here is Putin’s Jewish Dr. No stating that they shouldn’t be ashamed of Russian Imperialism

    I haven’t seen Anglin mention Putin’s fellow dwarf propagandist once. Now why is that Wokechoke?

    Anglin treats Putin’s Jewish connections like CNN treats Black crime. A Black thug could on a 5 state killing spree and CNN would run a headline about Emmit Till remembrance day.

    Putin could give Netenyahu a blowjob on live television and Anglin would do a post on how Hitler wasn’t so bad and liked puppies.

    But you’re fine with that as you are completely unprincipled and fully support censorship in favor of your own views. You would censor me at Unz if you couldn’t, wouldn’t you? Well I wouldn’t censor you or anyone here. Unlike you I have a pair of balls and can face reality like a man and not like some cocooned White liberal college girl that can’t handle dissenting opinion.

  891. @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts

    With 12 books to chose from, my needs are fully satisfied. If you, or anybody else here could make 2-3 recommendations, I'm on my way.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Bashibuzuk

    Begin here:

    https://arktos.com/product/the-fourth-political-theory/

    Do not buy more than one. His books are as dense as Hegel’s and you may not be able to stomach even one. Read slow. Skimmers are punished in this sort of book.

    Michael Millerman is the Dugin for Dummies source for English speakers. Doubtless there are better sources for that in Russian but I do not read Russian. Millerman is translator on a couple of the later Arktos books.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  892. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    This is what happens when Japanese Bro's sow Anti Chinese sentiment, it boomerangs on them!

    https://twitter.com/RihitoPhysicist/status/1785684551987241109

    Replies: @QCIC, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    She must be a secret fan of Superwog.

  893. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I wasn't aware that I was demonstrating any math skills here. I brought up that two Russian oil refineries were recently hit, were there more??...

    BTW, I spent a good deal of my time during my working career running 25 separate DB (Defined Benefit) retirement plans, including all of the relevant tax reporting. I was well compensated and always got a handsome bonus for my work at the end of the year. I hope that your yearly bonuses for running your remodeling business are generous too. Although quite frankly, with the amount of time that you waste here defending your Russian superman Putler, I would guess that business must be kind of slow? :-)

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikhail

    …I wasn’t aware that I was demonstrating any math skills here. I brought up that two Russian oil refineries were recently hit

    You certainly were not. Let’s compare: few Russian refineries against 30% of the Ukie energy generation destroyed. Tit-for-tat. Is the math too advanced for you?

    my working career running 25 separate Defined Benefit retirement plans

    Good for you :)…we call it ‘dumb money’, have you heard the term? I make money from those plans, like taking $ from retards, they always buy high, sell low and have no idea what’s going on. What you did was book-keeping not real math…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Even in backwoods Slovakia, I would think that this one has been posted somewhere:


    Liars can figure, but figures never lie
     
    https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2015/05/26/102707152-88830741.1910x1000.jpg
    Herr Beckow, making a quick stop at one of his many daily worksites, calling the home office to have his secretary reply to one of AP's articulate and probing questions. :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Let’s compare: few Russian refineries against 30% of the Ukie energy generation destroyed. Tit-for-tat. Is the math too advanced for you?
     
    Well let's see whose math skills are really in question here:

    The country's state energy giant Gazprom said in its latest report that gas production in the first half of 2023 was 179.45 billion cubic meters (bcm). Gazprom added that this represents a year-on-year decrease of nearly a quarter (24.7 percent), and a 26.5 percent drop in gas supplies to the domestic and foreign markets.
     
    So, with Ukrainians increasing their destruction of Russian refineries in 2024, the deficit of approximately 5%, should be eclipsed this year "tit for tat" by the Ukrainian side by the end of this year, if not much sooner. Wouldn't it be better for all if Russia were to butt out of Ukraine' business and go back home? And yes, I am able to differentiate oil and gas supply numbers, but either way, the trends do not look good for Russia.

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-gas-production-collapse-ussr-levels-1831087

    Replies: @Beckow

  894. @Bashibuzuk
    It’s reassuring to see that some things really don’t change. Reading through the comments, I felt as if I watched from some vantage point the Earth calmly revolving around the Dun. Such a peaceful feeling to permanence.

    Blinky are you still around sometimes?

    Where is our “Asian bromance” friend?

    Did Altan reappear?

    LatW, being bitter bout these pesky Russkies doesn’t do you any good. You are too clever to blindly hate for the rest of your life.

    Mikel and Dima are as brilliant debaters as usual and the (lack of) outcome of their debates is just as predictable.

    Same about AP and Bekow.

    Greetings to Mr Hack and Pr. AnonfromTN.

    Greetings to our Sikh friend as well.

    Greetings of course to my esoteric friend Emil and our idiosyncratic friend songbird.

    And yeah, I’ve been to Bali a few months ago and immensely enjoyed seeing Swastikas featured prominently on the old Balinese Hindu temples. Russian language was often spoken by tourists (draft dodgers) both the Katsap and the who seemed to get along just fine. It felt kinda home…

    Speaking of home, this old Soviet medical video makes me feel nostalgic:

    https://youtu.be/Yz0h1DlurHo?feature=shared

    In retrospect, the world was then a much saner place.

    Alright, I wish you all well.

    Не скучайте без меня!

    🙂

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack, @Mikel, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Sorry for the late reply, I too have been busy.

    [MORE]

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    Half the scientists in some Eastern European countries are women.
     
    Have you been in a coma for the last 40 years? Half the scientists in the US are women (I mean real sciences, don’t know about “humanities” BS). Two thirds of our graduate students in biology/biochemistry/biophysics are girls. They are performing in class and in the lab no worse than boys. The percentage of intellectually challenged (in plain English, stupid) is about the same among both genders. On average, girls are at least as intelligent as boys. They tend to be less arrogant, but more persistent, which results in admirable productivity. More female than male undergrads want to do research (I mean not for credit). While at the moment something like 30-35% of faculty are women, the dynamics in the last decades suggest that in 10-15 years the proportion of female faculty will match the proportion of today’s female grad students. What’s wrong with that?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  895. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Today is May 2, 2024. It’s ten years since Odessa massacre in 2014
     
    These are the pro-Russian thugs who tried to violently take control of the streets of Odesa 10 years ago (as their compatriots had successfully done in Donbas) when they assaulted a Ukrainian unity march and killed one of the Ukrainians.

    They were defeated after clashes on the streets, driven to their headquarters, and many died in a fire after they and the Ukrainians exchanged Molotov cocktails at one another.

    Russians used the lie of a deliberate massacre of blameless Russian victims to stir up a rebellion in faraway Donbas that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Donbassers. And eventually a war with 100,000s of dead Russians and Ukrainians.

    Lies can have tragic consequences when used by bad people.



    https://twitter.com/yurapalyanytsia/status/1785926751274627348?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @QCIC

    These things happen when outside forces such as the West stir up conflict which leads to civil war. People die on all sides

  896. Mikhail says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    He was half Russian and half Belarusian.
     
    I guess you are pointing this out to contrast with the current clown you believe to be purebred Ukrainian?

    Replies: @AP, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Beckow, @Mikhail

    At the UN, Radek Sikorski (whose wife is the neocon Jew Anne Applebaum) sleazily ducked away from these realities presented to him, which the US Jewish establishment downplays:

    ‘Ukraine won’t belong to Yids!’ Odessa nationalist leader stirs crowd on massacre anniversary
    https://www.rt.com/news/425788-ukraine-odessa-jews-nationalists/

    The pro-Palestinian US college protests haven’t in overall terms come close to the above. Zelensky is a modern-day capo who said it’s cool to honor Bandera. At some point, perhaps a humanitarian intervention for Odessa will happen along the lines of Crimea’s reunification with Russia.

    Related:

    https://www.rt.com/russia/554860-burned-alive-2014-odessa/

  897. @AP
    @AP

    Here is one of the “victims” who died in the Union building, Gennady Kushnarev. He is not a native of Odessa, he is from Chelyabinsk in Russia but his father a military officer moved there.

    Gennady was screaming about taking a Kalashnikov and shooting people like dogs, and that Odesa is a Russian city.

    It didn’t end well for this violent thug on that day, this colonist who moved to Ukraine from the Urals and wished to kill Ukrainians in their own country.

    And the lie that he and the others were innocent victims of a “massacre” helped start and fuel a war that would kill thousands soon afterward and 100,000s 8 years later.



    https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1785826484810313868?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Just one out of 48. No small wonder why some feel it’s a moral imperative to get rid of the Kiev regime. BTW, if he was one of the deceased and if he did indeed say that, he wouldn’t be burned alive in a truly civilized country.

  898. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I wasn't aware that I was demonstrating any math skills here. I brought up that two Russian oil refineries were recently hit, were there more??...

    BTW, I spent a good deal of my time during my working career running 25 separate DB (Defined Benefit) retirement plans, including all of the relevant tax reporting. I was well compensated and always got a handsome bonus for my work at the end of the year. I hope that your yearly bonuses for running your remodeling business are generous too. Although quite frankly, with the amount of time that you waste here defending your Russian superman Putler, I would guess that business must be kind of slow? :-)

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikhail

    DBs have long become a thing of the past from what I’ve seen. Plenty of 5310s.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Yeah, they're no longer as viable as Daddy's rental collection retirement plan. How's the slumlord business doing these days?

    https://lowres.cartooncollections.com/building_code_violation-slumlord-ivanka_trump-financial_inequality-millionaires-politics-CX902624_low.jpg

  899. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    If you could make a star trek fazer the Army and Elon Musk would already have built a big factory in Mexico or something.

    Replies: @songbird

    IMO, if lasers made sense, they would already being doing test runs for Breakthrough Starshot.

  900. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...I wasn’t aware that I was demonstrating any math skills here. I brought up that two Russian oil refineries were recently hit
     
    You certainly were not. Let's compare: few Russian refineries against 30% of the Ukie energy generation destroyed. Tit-for-tat. Is the math too advanced for you?

    my working career running 25 separate Defined Benefit retirement plans
     
    Good for you :)...we call it 'dumb money', have you heard the term? I make money from those plans, like taking $ from retards, they always buy high, sell low and have no idea what's going on. What you did was book-keeping not real math...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    Even in backwoods Slovakia, I would think that this one has been posted somewhere:

    Liars can figure, but figures never lie


    Herr Beckow, making a quick stop at one of his many daily worksites, calling the home office to have his secretary reply to one of AP’s articulate and probing questions. 🙂

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Is that Tom Cruise? Thanks...but I am a lot taller than him...:)

  901. @AP
    @Beckow


    Over 40 people were burnt to death by the Ukie nationalist mob and you are defending it
     
    You defend and excuse a war with 100,000s dead, and even admit that you find it entertaining. You are thus the last to complain.

    Unlike you, I see nothing good or entertaining about such deaths. It is a tragedy that 10 years ago violent pro-Russian thugs chose to assault a pro-Ukrainian crowd and chose to kill. Even though the pro-Russians ended up losing more lives that day.

    I do maintain that the deaths of countless civilians (including Russian ones) and even of soldiers, in part as a consequence of the fake massacre narrative you repeat, are far more tragic than the deaths of some of the violent and murderous pro-Russian thugs who died 10 years ago, such as this Chelyabinsk-born colonist living in Odesa who on that day was screaming about shooting people like dogs and Odessa is Russia:



    https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1785826484810313868?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    The massacre of Russians in Odessa was real, not ‘fake’. You are defending it and lying that the Russians deserved it – you are justifying a horrible crime. Think about it.

    I won’t convince you, you lack the basic evenhandedness required in a rational discussion. At this point you seem very angry that Kiev-Nato is losing the war they provoked. Maybe you even regret the stupid behaviors and decisions by Kiev in the past. But you can’t admit it, it’s too early.

    Ukie nationalists will regret their crimes against the Russian minority. East Prussia Germans probably regretted what they did when they lost the war to Russia in 1945. That’s the way of the world, we can’t go back…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    The massacre of Russians in Odessa was real, not ‘fake’.
     
    That some violent Russian thugs killed someone and started a deadly riot in which more people, on their own side, died was real.

    That it was a "massacre" was fake.

    But most of your posts involve posting fake things, it's nothing new.

    Ukie nationalists will regret their crimes against the Russian minority.
    East Prussia Germans probably regretted what they did ...
     
    Do you think the people of Donbas regret keeping Ukraine out of NATO pre-2014? And allowing their lands to become a playground for Russian marauders - something the people of Odesa did not do?

    As a consequence, their lands are totally devastated and they are the bulk of both civilian and (per capita) military casualties.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  902. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    DBs have long become a thing of the past from what I've seen. Plenty of 5310s.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Yeah, they’re no longer as viable as Daddy’s rental collection retirement plan. How’s the slumlord business doing these days?

  903. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @Bashibuzuk

    Sorry for the late reply, I too have been busy.





    https://youtu.be/9Sb3SkOYVrE?si=ddMnyHHOC7RGNWm7


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMZ9TrgbcAAVQU5.jpg

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Half the scientists in some Eastern European countries are women.

    Have you been in a coma for the last 40 years? Half the scientists in the US are women (I mean real sciences, don’t know about “humanities” BS). Two thirds of our graduate students in biology/biochemistry/biophysics are girls. They are performing in class and in the lab no worse than boys. The percentage of intellectually challenged (in plain English, stupid) is about the same among both genders. On average, girls are at least as intelligent as boys. They tend to be less arrogant, but more persistent, which results in admirable productivity. More female than male undergrads want to do research (I mean not for credit). While at the moment something like 30-35% of faculty are women, the dynamics in the last decades suggest that in 10-15 years the proportion of female faculty will match the proportion of today’s female grad students. What’s wrong with that?

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @AnonfromTN

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8103Utj9quETSCdz40x3ZFHAhKW-vGhPsxU_62Jbnw2DgWdZ0UoG-Mh60&s.jpg


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist

  904. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Even in backwoods Slovakia, I would think that this one has been posted somewhere:


    Liars can figure, but figures never lie
     
    https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2015/05/26/102707152-88830741.1910x1000.jpg
    Herr Beckow, making a quick stop at one of his many daily worksites, calling the home office to have his secretary reply to one of AP's articulate and probing questions. :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

    Is that Tom Cruise? Thanks…but I am a lot taller than him…:)

  905. This article about the scroll mentioning Plato is a bit clearer. It specifically mentions a flute, which I could have sworn I read in one article but had difficulty confirming.

    Anyway, originally was going to say that it had seemed to me that Plato hated flute music, so may not have been an unbiased observer on its playing, assuming the story isn’t apocryphal.

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/29/herculaneum-scroll-plato-final-hours-burial-site

    • Thanks: Bashibuzuk
  906. 40 million dollar anti-air missile system taken out by drone:

    Oh and the rumor was true. Ukraine is in fact getting a huge shipment of ATACMs missiles. Thanks Trump and speaker Johnson for surprising everyone by doing something helpful for Ukraine. I sincerely mean that.

    The US plans to deliver 600 to 1000 ATACMs missiles
    https://meta-defense.fr/en/2024/04/24/1000-Ukraine-Atacms-missiles/

    Let’s all sing together:

    999 ATACMs missiles on the wall,
    999 ATACMs missiles,
    Take one down,
    Put some Orcs underground
    998 ATACMs missiles on the wall

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  907. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...I wasn’t aware that I was demonstrating any math skills here. I brought up that two Russian oil refineries were recently hit
     
    You certainly were not. Let's compare: few Russian refineries against 30% of the Ukie energy generation destroyed. Tit-for-tat. Is the math too advanced for you?

    my working career running 25 separate Defined Benefit retirement plans
     
    Good for you :)...we call it 'dumb money', have you heard the term? I make money from those plans, like taking $ from retards, they always buy high, sell low and have no idea what's going on. What you did was book-keeping not real math...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack

    Let’s compare: few Russian refineries against 30% of the Ukie energy generation destroyed. Tit-for-tat. Is the math too advanced for you?

    Well let’s see whose math skills are really in question here:

    The country’s state energy giant Gazprom said in its latest report that gas production in the first half of 2023 was 179.45 billion cubic meters (bcm). Gazprom added that this represents a year-on-year decrease of nearly a quarter (24.7 percent), and a 26.5 percent drop in gas supplies to the domestic and foreign markets.

    So, with Ukrainians increasing their destruction of Russian refineries in 2024, the deficit of approximately 5%, should be eclipsed this year “tit for tat” by the Ukrainian side by the end of this year, if not much sooner. Wouldn’t it be better for all if Russia were to butt out of Ukraine’ business and go back home? And yes, I am able to differentiate oil and gas supply numbers, but either way, the trends do not look good for Russia.

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-gas-production-collapse-ussr-levels-1831087

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    First of all you are using 1H 2023 numbers, kind of dishonest. Have you noticed it is May 2025?

    In Q1 2024 Russia produced 9.4 percent more gas than Q1 2023. It is only gas, energy is a lot more than just gas, nuclear, thermo, water dams...

    Compare it to Ukraine's overall energy production that dropped over 30 from last year.

    Tit-for-tat is dramatically in Russia's favor. Sending drones to bomb Russia's refineries led to Russia destroying 100-times more of Ukraine's energy infrastructure. Not a good move...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN

  908. @AnonfromTN
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    Half the scientists in some Eastern European countries are women.
     
    Have you been in a coma for the last 40 years? Half the scientists in the US are women (I mean real sciences, don’t know about “humanities” BS). Two thirds of our graduate students in biology/biochemistry/biophysics are girls. They are performing in class and in the lab no worse than boys. The percentage of intellectually challenged (in plain English, stupid) is about the same among both genders. On average, girls are at least as intelligent as boys. They tend to be less arrogant, but more persistent, which results in admirable productivity. More female than male undergrads want to do research (I mean not for credit). While at the moment something like 30-35% of faculty are women, the dynamics in the last decades suggest that in 10-15 years the proportion of female faculty will match the proportion of today’s female grad students. What’s wrong with that?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
  909. A123 says: • Website
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @A123


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F77HZ37WcAExy4q.jpg

    Replies: @A123, @Bashibuzuk

    Every country has problems. Fortunately, the U.S. will get rid of one in a few months.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

     

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @A123

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    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbxB2RyFFOTXF5FDcf8DrpRuVgXphs24A_Vd26JCMMfFHSdSE-4iAYZ8Cz&s.jpg

    Replies: @A123

  910. @Bashibuzuk
    @John Johnson

    Solovyov (maiden name Shapiro) is a distant relative of Ben Shapiro, they actually even look a little similar, imagine Ben a couple of decades older and you’ll see it. Khazarian genes have a lasting impact on the bloodline.

    And yeah, Solovyov lived and worked for some time in US after the Soviet collapse. I would not be surprised in the slightest if he had the US citizenship and of course the Israeli one. The more passports, the merrier!

    https://russian.palinfo.com/Uploads/Models/Media/old/oldimages/05/solovev.jpg

    Every time Solovyov talks about Russian patriotism, I cannot stop chuckling. Same about Simonyan. The Noviop are a funny bunch.

    🙂

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson, @LT1488, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Chubais is now one of the organizers of the center of Russian studies in Tel-Aviv. Poor guy won’t be able to steal in puny Israel nearly as much as he was stealing in Russia. Must be frustrating for him.

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Hey Blinky, nice reading you again. 🙂

    Yeah I agree, во всём и всегда виноват Чубайс.

    https://youtu.be/QBo8MjTUo8c?feature=shared

    Recently I discovered that I lived long enough to see that even the MI6 supported liberal Navalnists agree about that.

    BTW, that Maria Pevchikh is not bad, a solid 7…

    https://youtu.be/xxtCsa0j6eM?feature=shared

  911. @A123
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Every country has problems. Fortunately, the U.S. will get rid of one in a few months.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiI2OubR8A6bCEWwkEabra34df8YWJGzmvXkbi5elI5-8St6uzvTFJa-hwlpnIdFdB-eqVD2zgsKH85AgYgZurevna4BWvOvLtrKBBA0_GZJhSbT34JOFA_c8vGqG43oS4UjfesKhJLzJF0th50f0UjlJd1EdQNFWZEnoY29WsJ4eYrkGu8FcQkhCpk8nc/s594/1%20fsfdgddfgdg.jpg

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    • Replies: @A123
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Erdogan is doing more damage to Türkiye's economy.... Is anyone surprised? Nope.

    PEACE 😇



    https://images.americanthinker.com/r3/r3qrwdwf4qe64u5rxfmu_800.jpg

  912. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Let’s compare: few Russian refineries against 30% of the Ukie energy generation destroyed. Tit-for-tat. Is the math too advanced for you?
     
    Well let's see whose math skills are really in question here:

    The country's state energy giant Gazprom said in its latest report that gas production in the first half of 2023 was 179.45 billion cubic meters (bcm). Gazprom added that this represents a year-on-year decrease of nearly a quarter (24.7 percent), and a 26.5 percent drop in gas supplies to the domestic and foreign markets.
     
    So, with Ukrainians increasing their destruction of Russian refineries in 2024, the deficit of approximately 5%, should be eclipsed this year "tit for tat" by the Ukrainian side by the end of this year, if not much sooner. Wouldn't it be better for all if Russia were to butt out of Ukraine' business and go back home? And yes, I am able to differentiate oil and gas supply numbers, but either way, the trends do not look good for Russia.

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-gas-production-collapse-ussr-levels-1831087

    Replies: @Beckow

    First of all you are using 1H 2023 numbers, kind of dishonest. Have you noticed it is May 2025?

    In Q1 2024 Russia produced 9.4 percent more gas than Q1 2023. It is only gas, energy is a lot more than just gas, nuclear, thermo, water dams…

    Compare it to Ukraine’s overall energy production that dropped over 30 from last year.

    Tit-for-tat is dramatically in Russia’s favor. Sending drones to bomb Russia’s refineries led to Russia destroying 100-times more of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure. Not a good move…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    First of all you are using 1H 2023 numbers, kind of dishonest. Have you noticed it is May 2025?
     
    Not yet, Beckow?. :-)

    Your math skills have messed you up, once again!

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Sending drones to bomb Russia’s refineries led to Russia destroying 100-times more of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure. Not a good move…
     
    Ukraine did very few good moves since 1991. Admittedly, some moves were immeasurably dumber than others.

    Energy is just one aspect of unfolding events. There is Russian saying “When your head is chopped off, you don’t bemoan the loss of your hair”.

    Replies: @Beckow

  913. Mikel says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    Supplement for Mikel and Dmitry.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/influencer-industry-marketing-fraud-discrimination-unethical-deals-content-creators-brands-2024-4

    No Athletic Greens or Alpha Brain.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Supplement for Mikel and Dmitry.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/influencer-industry-marketing-fraud-discrimination-unethical-deals-content-creators-brands-2024-4

    Thanks. That actually looks like an article that could interest Dmitry. I see they mention Michael Jordan endorsing sneaker brands. They also approach the subject from a leftist angle:

    “Some influencers faced racial discrimination during an in-person brand-sponsored trip, BI previously reported. And Dylan Mulvaney, an influencer who partnered with brands such as Nike and Bud Light, faced a barrage of anti-trans hate and harassment … She said the resulting threats were so bad she traveled out of the country to escape the backlash.”

    Racism and bigotry in the influencer industry too, of course.

    I don’t really see anything about fitness or supplements but I appreciate your changing the subject. I’ve generally used this blog to procrastinate but lately I find that when I refresh the page and see what the latest comments are, it actually increases my motivation to go back to work.

    Speaking of influencers, YT may be in the hands of the woke elite but it’s an amazing source of information. Apart from science, health, exercise and all sorts of interesting content, you can also learn to do any type of manual work, from building a full house on an empty lot to butchering a deer. Lately I’ve even been using it for my hiking projects. There’s hardly a summit or popular route that somebody hasn’t posted a video about. They’re usually quite amateurish and, in general, cannot compete with summitpost or alltrails information-wise. But they give you a much more vivid impression of what you’re going to find on that route.

    IIRC you were into hiking yourself. If you haven’t checked alltrails.com, I recommend you do. For all the thousands of trails in North America that don’t involve climbing a summit, it’s an invaluable source of information. I really hate this trend of all websites in the world trying to convince you to register with them. It’s just insane the amount of passwords that we need to have these days (most of them with stupid complexity and expiration requirements, to make matters worse) but I don’t regret having registered with alltrails. It’s provided lots of ideas for winter hikes in the snow and desert treks.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel

    Thank you for the recommendation.

    I suffered many years of full time employment and residence on the Gulf Coast. A zero star hiking trail in Colorado is like the Yosemite Valley to me now.

    I don't know what products Attia is promoting. Out of curiosity I investigated a couple that Huberman was promoting and they were blatant rip offs. Athletic Greens and his nootropic one. It isn't Alpha Brain. That is Joe Rogan's rip off endorsement.

    Replies: @Mikel

  914. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    First of all you are using 1H 2023 numbers, kind of dishonest. Have you noticed it is May 2025?

    In Q1 2024 Russia produced 9.4 percent more gas than Q1 2023. It is only gas, energy is a lot more than just gas, nuclear, thermo, water dams...

    Compare it to Ukraine's overall energy production that dropped over 30 from last year.

    Tit-for-tat is dramatically in Russia's favor. Sending drones to bomb Russia's refineries led to Russia destroying 100-times more of Ukraine's energy infrastructure. Not a good move...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN

    First of all you are using 1H 2023 numbers, kind of dishonest. Have you noticed it is May 2025?

    Not yet, Beckow?. 🙂

    Your math skills have messed you up, once again!

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Touche...:)

    But ok, did you get the rest, the bad tit-for-tat for Kiev?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  915. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    First of all you are using 1H 2023 numbers, kind of dishonest. Have you noticed it is May 2025?

    In Q1 2024 Russia produced 9.4 percent more gas than Q1 2023. It is only gas, energy is a lot more than just gas, nuclear, thermo, water dams...

    Compare it to Ukraine's overall energy production that dropped over 30 from last year.

    Tit-for-tat is dramatically in Russia's favor. Sending drones to bomb Russia's refineries led to Russia destroying 100-times more of Ukraine's energy infrastructure. Not a good move...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN

    Sending drones to bomb Russia’s refineries led to Russia destroying 100-times more of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure. Not a good move…

    Ukraine did very few good moves since 1991. Admittedly, some moves were immeasurably dumber than others.

    Energy is just one aspect of unfolding events. There is Russian saying “When your head is chopped off, you don’t bemoan the loss of your hair”.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Ukraine did very few good moves since 1991.
     
    True. I wonder which one among the half a dozen Ukie leaders would be most popular. Porky ended up getting 16% in 2019, the incumbent of Orange fame Yushenko 6% - must be a world record in unpopularity, Yanuk was run out of town, and Zelina refuses to even call the elections. I am assuming the commie warm-overs in the 90's were not that popular either.

    Quite a democracy they have. A bit more introspection and less jumping up and down about Moskali would do Ukraine some good.

  916. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @Bashibuzuk



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Pn-meeting-profsojuz-1998-chubais.jpg

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segal

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Bashibuzuk

    Chubais is now one of the organizers of the center of Russian studies in Tel-Aviv. Poor guy won’t be able to steal in puny Israel nearly as much as he was stealing in Russia. Must be frustrating for him.

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
  917. @Coconuts
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Dugin is full in...
     
    It's Dugin proving that he is white. These kinds of views were popular in the progressive counter-culture in the rest of Europe during the 1960s, into the 80s and 90s with post-modernism/post-colonialism. At the moment the people in the UK leading on the idea of a global majority non-white majority against the white minority are white members of the elite. Imo these sort of ideas only gain traction in European culture because they are endorsed by current white elites.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Imo these sort of ideas only gain traction in European culture because they are endorsed by current white elites.

    The problem of white self-hatred is usually put in a shallow way. Those elites probably don’t consider themselves white (they can also claim to be white due to their mothers, as most of the time it is a white man who is singled out for hatred, a fact which can be really only explained with the background of Arian invasion)- anyway on different forms whites are known as “Caucasian” and Jews are Jews.

    If they do see themselves as white it is probably only as temporary, alchemical stage – after all the male beloved in the Song of Songs, so beloved by Kabbala, is “ruddy”, a kind of Egyptian – and Coudenhove-Kalergi said in his Praktische Idealismus (I have read it in German original) that is the ultimate goal, namely all people becoming again Egyptian-like. Back to Egypt, in other words. That, again, is in tune with the almost universal worship of Egypt in the modern world, starting with 1 $ bill.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    For some time I saw "Caucasian" as denigrating name, as it was apparently the name for white slaves in Turkey (Circassians, Georgians etc).

    However, later I realised you could also see "Caucasian" as a kind of honorary "white non-Aryan" denotation, bearing in mind that the reference location of the main order of the European Royalty, the Order of the Golden Fleece, was actually Caucasus where the said Fleece was to be located.

    Add the almost universal European obsession with the coming from escaped Troians, and you have traditions pointing again and again at the pre-Aryan populations as the point of reference and RETURN to them.

  918. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Coconuts


    Imo these sort of ideas only gain traction in European culture because they are endorsed by current white elites.
     
    The problem of white self-hatred is usually put in a shallow way. Those elites probably don't consider themselves white (they can also claim to be white due to their mothers, as most of the time it is a white man who is singled out for hatred, a fact which can be really only explained with the background of Arian invasion)- anyway on different forms whites are known as "Caucasian" and Jews are Jews.

    If they do see themselves as white it is probably only as temporary, alchemical stage - after all the male beloved in the Song of Songs, so beloved by Kabbala, is "ruddy", a kind of Egyptian - and Coudenhove-Kalergi said in his Praktische Idealismus (I have read it in German original) that is the ultimate goal, namely all people becoming again Egyptian-like. Back to Egypt, in other words. That, again, is in tune with the almost universal worship of Egypt in the modern world, starting with 1 $ bill.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    For some time I saw “Caucasian” as denigrating name, as it was apparently the name for white slaves in Turkey (Circassians, Georgians etc).

    However, later I realised you could also see “Caucasian” as a kind of honorary “white non-Aryan” denotation, bearing in mind that the reference location of the main order of the European Royalty, the Order of the Golden Fleece, was actually Caucasus where the said Fleece was to be located.

    Add the almost universal European obsession with the coming from escaped Troians, and you have traditions pointing again and again at the pre-Aryan populations as the point of reference and RETURN to them.

  919. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @A123

    - Cengiz Akyüz (42)
    - Ali Haydar Bengi (39)
    - İbrahim Bilgen (61)
    - Furkan Doğan (18)
    - Cevdet Kılıçlar (38)
    - Cengiz Songür (47)
    - Çetin Topçuoğlu (54)
    - Fahri Yaldız (43)
    - Necdet Yıldırım (32)
    - Uğur Söylemez (51)


    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-05-02/ty-article/turkey-reportedly-halts-all-trade-with-israel-amid-war-in-gaza/0000018f-3a77-d9c3-abcf-7a770e3a0000

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbxB2RyFFOTXF5FDcf8DrpRuVgXphs24A_Vd26JCMMfFHSdSE-4iAYZ8Cz&s.jpg

    Replies: @A123

    Erdogan is doing more damage to Türkiye’s economy…. Is anyone surprised? Nope.

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

  920. • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail

    So what? Former aid to the UN Secretary General Michael von der Schulenburg said that the only hope to preserve Ukraine is to end the war it is losing:
    https://michael-von-der-schulenburg.com/only-peace-negotiations-can-save-ukraine/

    Many others in various countries expressed similar sentiments. Would any pro-Ukie person listen? Of course not. Real fools don’t learn even from their own mistakes. Life goes on.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/099eaed76cfaa6b943a0969123fa3e5818eb4a38/0_0_4922_3161/master/4922.jpg?width=1900&dpr=1&s=none

  921. @Mikhail
    https://www.rt.com/russia/596661-ivan-ilyin-russian-philosopher/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=329725ryqYY

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack

    So what? Former aid to the UN Secretary General Michael von der Schulenburg said that the only hope to preserve Ukraine is to end the war it is losing:
    https://michael-von-der-schulenburg.com/only-peace-negotiations-can-save-ukraine/

    Many others in various countries expressed similar sentiments. Would any pro-Ukie person listen? Of course not. Real fools don’t learn even from their own mistakes. Life goes on.

    • Agree: Mikhail
  922. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    First of all you are using 1H 2023 numbers, kind of dishonest. Have you noticed it is May 2025?
     
    Not yet, Beckow?. :-)

    Your math skills have messed you up, once again!

    Replies: @Beckow

    Touche…:)

    But ok, did you get the rest, the bad tit-for-tat for Kiev?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Look Beckow, I don't have the inclination to retrace your steps nor mine at this point. You said something to the effect that Russisa is responsible for up to 30% loss in Ukraine's energy output, I countered by including information that Gazprom indicated that its own output was down by about 25%. Ukraine is going to continue bombing Russia's refineries throughout 2024 (is there really any doubt?). You can continue to believe that this doesn't effect Russia's economy at the moment, but it soon will. Price increases only go so far, especially if you don't have much to sell. It's no secret that Russia is importing gasoline from Belarus and elsewhere right now. How is that good for the Russian economy?


    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has increased gasoline imports from neighbouring Belarus in March to tackle the risk of shortages in its domestic market because of unscheduled repairs at Russian refineries after drone attacks, four industry and trade sources said on Wednesday.

    Usually Russia is a net exporter of fuel and a supplier to international markets, but the disruption of Russian refining has forced oil companies to import.

    Already Russia banned gasoline exports from March 1 to try to secure enough fuel for its domestic market after repeated Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian refineries since the start of the year.
     

    You don't need a PhD in economics to understand what's going on.

    https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2024-03-27/exclusive-russia-increases-gasoline-imports-from-belarus-as-domestic-supplies-shrink

    Replies: @QCIC, @sudden death

  923. @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Supplement for Mikel and Dmitry.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/influencer-industry-marketing-fraud-discrimination-unethical-deals-content-creators-brands-2024-4
     
    Thanks. That actually looks like an article that could interest Dmitry. I see they mention Michael Jordan endorsing sneaker brands. They also approach the subject from a leftist angle:

    "Some influencers faced racial discrimination during an in-person brand-sponsored trip, BI previously reported. And Dylan Mulvaney, an influencer who partnered with brands such as Nike and Bud Light, faced a barrage of anti-trans hate and harassment ... She said the resulting threats were so bad she traveled out of the country to escape the backlash."


    Racism and bigotry in the influencer industry too, of course.

    I don't really see anything about fitness or supplements but I appreciate your changing the subject. I've generally used this blog to procrastinate but lately I find that when I refresh the page and see what the latest comments are, it actually increases my motivation to go back to work.

    Speaking of influencers, YT may be in the hands of the woke elite but it's an amazing source of information. Apart from science, health, exercise and all sorts of interesting content, you can also learn to do any type of manual work, from building a full house on an empty lot to butchering a deer. Lately I've even been using it for my hiking projects. There's hardly a summit or popular route that somebody hasn't posted a video about. They're usually quite amateurish and, in general, cannot compete with summitpost or alltrails information-wise. But they give you a much more vivid impression of what you're going to find on that route.

    IIRC you were into hiking yourself. If you haven't checked alltrails.com, I recommend you do. For all the thousands of trails in North America that don't involve climbing a summit, it's an invaluable source of information. I really hate this trend of all websites in the world trying to convince you to register with them. It's just insane the amount of passwords that we need to have these days (most of them with stupid complexity and expiration requirements, to make matters worse) but I don't regret having registered with alltrails. It's provided lots of ideas for winter hikes in the snow and desert treks.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Thank you for the recommendation.

    I suffered many years of full time employment and residence on the Gulf Coast. A zero star hiking trail in Colorado is like the Yosemite Valley to me now.

    I don’t know what products Attia is promoting. Out of curiosity I investigated a couple that Huberman was promoting and they were blatant rip offs. Athletic Greens and his nootropic one. It isn’t Alpha Brain. That is Joe Rogan’s rip off endorsement.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I suffered many years of full time employment and residence on the Gulf Coast. A zero star hiking trail in Colorado is like the Yosemite Valley to me now.
     
    LOL. I felt the same way after spending a year in the Netherlands. My 2 years in Dublin were quite gloomy too but at least I had some hills with (usually grey) ocean views to bike and run through.

    I don’t know what products Attia is promoting.
     
    I may be wrong but I don't think he's promoting any specific product. He does recommend some prescription medicines and hormones for specific issues in his podcasts and I think he's been taking rapamycin, like many others in the longevity circles, but that's an off label use of an off-patent medicine. He has much more money to make with other stuff. However, I watched him interviewed by someone else and he takes a bunch of daily supplements but they're regular OTC pills, like magnesium and omega-3. Nothing you can make any money on, unless you have your own supplement brand and advertise it everywhere, like the Sinclair grifter does.

    What I've actually learned from the people I listen to for health advice on YT is that you're generally better off not taking many supplements because they're unregulated, so you don't have any purity guarantees, and nobody has studied their effects and interactions in any detail (that's why they're supplements, not drugs) so they may actually be harmful, especially combined with each other. Kaeberlein gave some examples in one of his videos about molecules that were once considered safe until their side effects became known many years later.
  924. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP

    The massacre of Russians in Odessa was real, not 'fake'. You are defending it and lying that the Russians deserved it - you are justifying a horrible crime. Think about it.

    I won't convince you, you lack the basic evenhandedness required in a rational discussion. At this point you seem very angry that Kiev-Nato is losing the war they provoked. Maybe you even regret the stupid behaviors and decisions by Kiev in the past. But you can't admit it, it's too early.

    Ukie nationalists will regret their crimes against the Russian minority. East Prussia Germans probably regretted what they did when they lost the war to Russia in 1945. That's the way of the world, we can't go back...

    Replies: @AP

    The massacre of Russians in Odessa was real, not ‘fake’.

    That some violent Russian thugs killed someone and started a deadly riot in which more people, on their own side, died was real.

    That it was a “massacre” was fake.

    But most of your posts involve posting fake things, it’s nothing new.

    Ukie nationalists will regret their crimes against the Russian minority.
    East Prussia Germans probably regretted what they did …

    Do you think the people of Donbas regret keeping Ukraine out of NATO pre-2014? And allowing their lands to become a playground for Russian marauders – something the people of Odesa did not do?

    As a consequence, their lands are totally devastated and they are the bulk of both civilian and (per capita) military casualties.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Crimeans, though, unlike Donbassers, have fared pretty well throwing their lot in with Russia--at least until 2022 and beyond. Maybe this indicates that Putin treats ethnic Russians better than Sovoks.

  925. @Mikhail
    https://www.rt.com/russia/596661-ivan-ilyin-russian-philosopher/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=329725ryqYY

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack

  926. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Sending drones to bomb Russia’s refineries led to Russia destroying 100-times more of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure. Not a good move…
     
    Ukraine did very few good moves since 1991. Admittedly, some moves were immeasurably dumber than others.

    Energy is just one aspect of unfolding events. There is Russian saying “When your head is chopped off, you don’t bemoan the loss of your hair”.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Ukraine did very few good moves since 1991.

    True. I wonder which one among the half a dozen Ukie leaders would be most popular. Porky ended up getting 16% in 2019, the incumbent of Orange fame Yushenko 6% – must be a world record in unpopularity, Yanuk was run out of town, and Zelina refuses to even call the elections. I am assuming the commie warm-overs in the 90’s were not that popular either.

    Quite a democracy they have. A bit more introspection and less jumping up and down about Moskali would do Ukraine some good.

  927. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Touche...:)

    But ok, did you get the rest, the bad tit-for-tat for Kiev?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Look Beckow, I don’t have the inclination to retrace your steps nor mine at this point. You said something to the effect that Russisa is responsible for up to 30% loss in Ukraine’s energy output, I countered by including information that Gazprom indicated that its own output was down by about 25%. Ukraine is going to continue bombing Russia’s refineries throughout 2024 (is there really any doubt?). You can continue to believe that this doesn’t effect Russia’s economy at the moment, but it soon will. Price increases only go so far, especially if you don’t have much to sell. It’s no secret that Russia is importing gasoline from Belarus and elsewhere right now. How is that good for the Russian economy?

    MOSCOW (Reuters) – Russia has increased gasoline imports from neighbouring Belarus in March to tackle the risk of shortages in its domestic market because of unscheduled repairs at Russian refineries after drone attacks, four industry and trade sources said on Wednesday.

    Usually Russia is a net exporter of fuel and a supplier to international markets, but the disruption of Russian refining has forced oil companies to import.

    Already Russia banned gasoline exports from March 1 to try to secure enough fuel for its domestic market after repeated Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian refineries since the start of the year.

    You don’t need a PhD in economics to understand what’s going on.

    https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2024-03-27/exclusive-russia-increases-gasoline-imports-from-belarus-as-domestic-supplies-shrink

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The gasoline numbers in the article are fairly modest. The wording is ambiguous so it is tough to say if this means 10% of the refinery output or much less than this.

    You knew this would happen after the drone hits, right? What we don't know is how long the repairs will take. Some people guess this will take a long time due to lack of Western assistance. I guess 6 months, mainly since the pictures of fires seemed modest for a refinery fire. Repair assistance from China, Iran and India should be forthcoming.

    Several questions come to mind:

    -- Will the Ukies (West) start drone bombing of infrastructure in Belarus? Probably a question of when, not if.

    -- If the Russians respond by destroying more critical infrastructure in Kiev will you be so enthusiastic about this process?

    -- What will it take for you to start lobbying the Ukrainian and Western governments to capitulate and accept Russian terms?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    , @sudden death
    @Mr. Hack


    Gazprom indicated that its own output was down by about 25%
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMleERAW4AAOc9S.png

    Replies: @A123, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  928. QCIC says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Look Beckow, I don't have the inclination to retrace your steps nor mine at this point. You said something to the effect that Russisa is responsible for up to 30% loss in Ukraine's energy output, I countered by including information that Gazprom indicated that its own output was down by about 25%. Ukraine is going to continue bombing Russia's refineries throughout 2024 (is there really any doubt?). You can continue to believe that this doesn't effect Russia's economy at the moment, but it soon will. Price increases only go so far, especially if you don't have much to sell. It's no secret that Russia is importing gasoline from Belarus and elsewhere right now. How is that good for the Russian economy?


    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has increased gasoline imports from neighbouring Belarus in March to tackle the risk of shortages in its domestic market because of unscheduled repairs at Russian refineries after drone attacks, four industry and trade sources said on Wednesday.

    Usually Russia is a net exporter of fuel and a supplier to international markets, but the disruption of Russian refining has forced oil companies to import.

    Already Russia banned gasoline exports from March 1 to try to secure enough fuel for its domestic market after repeated Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian refineries since the start of the year.
     

    You don't need a PhD in economics to understand what's going on.

    https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2024-03-27/exclusive-russia-increases-gasoline-imports-from-belarus-as-domestic-supplies-shrink

    Replies: @QCIC, @sudden death

    The gasoline numbers in the article are fairly modest. The wording is ambiguous so it is tough to say if this means 10% of the refinery output or much less than this.

    You knew this would happen after the drone hits, right? What we don’t know is how long the repairs will take. Some people guess this will take a long time due to lack of Western assistance. I guess 6 months, mainly since the pictures of fires seemed modest for a refinery fire. Repair assistance from China, Iran and India should be forthcoming.

    Several questions come to mind:

    — Will the Ukies (West) start drone bombing of infrastructure in Belarus? Probably a question of when, not if.

    — If the Russians respond by destroying more critical infrastructure in Kiev will you be so enthusiastic about this process?

    — What will it take for you to start lobbying the Ukrainian and Western governments to capitulate and accept Russian terms?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    What will it take for you to start lobbying the Ukrainian and Western governments to capitulate and accept Russian terms?
     
    Why should Ukraine capitulate? Russia is having a hard time maintaining control in Crimea (the headquarters of the Black Sea fleet had to move to the Russian side of the Black Sea a few months back).
    In return for directing its meat waive forces to move forward in Donbas it's acquiring a few villages and bombed out fields, Hurrah. Is it worth it for Russia? Maybe it's you who should be lobbying the Kremlin to retreat before it loses even more lives?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC

    Look at comment #938. Proof positive that nobody needs to fool the fools, it’s 100% self-service.

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Will the Ukies (West) start drone bombing of infrastructure in Belarus? Probably a question of when, not if.

    Why would they do that?

    Lukashenko rejected numerous requests from Putin to put troops into the war. He also hasn't signed over his tanks.

    Het let Putin attack through the border when he also believed in the 2.5 week special military operation. But after the bloodbath (Belarus hospitals were overwhelmed with Russian soldiers) he has since stated that he will only attack Ukraine in defense.

    Lukashenko doesn't believe in the cause.

    It doesn't make sense for Ukraine to attack them.

    Lukashenko is trying to live out the war without a necktie from either side.

    Replies: @QCIC

  929. @LT1488
    @Bashibuzuk

    When will they interview Galkovsky?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Ain’t ever happening. Not in the least because ДЕГ won’t give them an interview.

    And while we’re at it, камрад I approve of your moniker .

    Мы идём широкими полями по просторам родины своей…

    🫡

  930. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel

    Thank you for the recommendation.

    I suffered many years of full time employment and residence on the Gulf Coast. A zero star hiking trail in Colorado is like the Yosemite Valley to me now.

    I don't know what products Attia is promoting. Out of curiosity I investigated a couple that Huberman was promoting and they were blatant rip offs. Athletic Greens and his nootropic one. It isn't Alpha Brain. That is Joe Rogan's rip off endorsement.

    Replies: @Mikel

    I suffered many years of full time employment and residence on the Gulf Coast. A zero star hiking trail in Colorado is like the Yosemite Valley to me now.

    LOL. I felt the same way after spending a year in the Netherlands. My 2 years in Dublin were quite gloomy too but at least I had some hills with (usually grey) ocean views to bike and run through.

    I don’t know what products Attia is promoting.

    I may be wrong but I don’t think he’s promoting any specific product. He does recommend some prescription medicines and hormones for specific issues in his podcasts and I think he’s been taking rapamycin, like many others in the longevity circles, but that’s an off label use of an off-patent medicine. He has much more money to make with other stuff. However, I watched him interviewed by someone else and he takes a bunch of daily supplements but they’re regular OTC pills, like magnesium and omega-3. Nothing you can make any money on, unless you have your own supplement brand and advertise it everywhere, like the Sinclair grifter does.

    What I’ve actually learned from the people I listen to for health advice on YT is that you’re generally better off not taking many supplements because they’re unregulated, so you don’t have any purity guarantees, and nobody has studied their effects and interactions in any detail (that’s why they’re supplements, not drugs) so they may actually be harmful, especially combined with each other. Kaeberlein gave some examples in one of his videos about molecules that were once considered safe until their side effects became known many years later.

  931. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @Bashibuzuk



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Pn-meeting-profsojuz-1998-chubais.jpg

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segal

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Bashibuzuk

    Hey Blinky, nice reading you again. 🙂

    Yeah I agree, во всём и всегда виноват Чубайс.

    Recently I discovered that I lived long enough to see that even the MI6 supported liberal Navalnists agree about that.

    BTW, that Maria Pevchikh is not bad, a solid 7…

  932. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The gasoline numbers in the article are fairly modest. The wording is ambiguous so it is tough to say if this means 10% of the refinery output or much less than this.

    You knew this would happen after the drone hits, right? What we don't know is how long the repairs will take. Some people guess this will take a long time due to lack of Western assistance. I guess 6 months, mainly since the pictures of fires seemed modest for a refinery fire. Repair assistance from China, Iran and India should be forthcoming.

    Several questions come to mind:

    -- Will the Ukies (West) start drone bombing of infrastructure in Belarus? Probably a question of when, not if.

    -- If the Russians respond by destroying more critical infrastructure in Kiev will you be so enthusiastic about this process?

    -- What will it take for you to start lobbying the Ukrainian and Western governments to capitulate and accept Russian terms?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    What will it take for you to start lobbying the Ukrainian and Western governments to capitulate and accept Russian terms?

    Why should Ukraine capitulate? Russia is having a hard time maintaining control in Crimea (the headquarters of the Black Sea fleet had to move to the Russian side of the Black Sea a few months back).
    In return for directing its meat waive forces to move forward in Donbas it’s acquiring a few villages and bombed out fields, Hurrah. Is it worth it for Russia? Maybe it’s you who should be lobbying the Kremlin to retreat before it loses even more lives?

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack

    Faithfully upholding traditions? Commendable. Parteigenosse Hitler promised glorious German victory in May of 1945.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

  933. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts

    With 12 books to chose from, my needs are fully satisfied. If you, or anybody else here could make 2-3 recommendations, I'm on my way.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Bashibuzuk

    Mr Hack, IMHO Dugin hasn’t ever contributed anything truly original.

    I remember first reading his articles in the late 1990ies – early 2000ies and even then, when he was still somewhat of a fringe figure, only “widely known in narrow circles”, I read them for lulz. Today, he has become less fringe and more cringe. That’s the difference. And his daughter, who was a truly nice, positive and bright young woman died because her dad got into all that crazy fringe politics. That’s a truly tragic story, if I was him I would let it all go and retire into some Old Believer скит to pray our Lord for forgiveness.

    [MORE]

    Bottom line, a friendly advice; if you want to understand Dugin, then read Evola, read Guenon, read Junger, read Faye or Alain de Benoist, but don’t waste your time on Dugin himself. Those who imagine Dugin as some “gray eminence” behind Putin’s back don’t understand RusFed.

    Golovin, Dugin’s mentor and guru on the other hand was a truly outstanding person, although probably not a good person from a Christian perspective. If you are able to understand enough spoken Russian, I strongly suggest you look into these videos on the link I already posted to Emil.

    https://golovinfond.ru/

    • Disagree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Bashibuzuk

    She clearly wasn't killed by her father, but by the operation of a regime claiming to be a democracy.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Bashibuzuk

  934. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The gasoline numbers in the article are fairly modest. The wording is ambiguous so it is tough to say if this means 10% of the refinery output or much less than this.

    You knew this would happen after the drone hits, right? What we don't know is how long the repairs will take. Some people guess this will take a long time due to lack of Western assistance. I guess 6 months, mainly since the pictures of fires seemed modest for a refinery fire. Repair assistance from China, Iran and India should be forthcoming.

    Several questions come to mind:

    -- Will the Ukies (West) start drone bombing of infrastructure in Belarus? Probably a question of when, not if.

    -- If the Russians respond by destroying more critical infrastructure in Kiev will you be so enthusiastic about this process?

    -- What will it take for you to start lobbying the Ukrainian and Western governments to capitulate and accept Russian terms?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    Look at comment #938. Proof positive that nobody needs to fool the fools, it’s 100% self-service.

  935. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @A123


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F77HZ37WcAExy4q.jpg

    Replies: @A123, @Bashibuzuk

    Now I know why they put him in prison. Because he disagreed with the compulsory vaccination…

    🙂

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    I thought he was put in prison because one Romanian who didn't get a bribe was furiously jealous that some other Romanians did get bribes. Trolling is not a crime. Except sometimes it can be.

    If you read Barrett's latest interview he says everybody was telling the students the Kennedy assassination was an inside job. And it was fine. Then he was flabbergasted that telling the students 9/11 was an inside job was grounds to get him fired. This wasn't anything they hadn't been doing in mass as routine for years.

    Well no. They have so many rules and regulations and laws that they can lock up anybody any time they want. The only freedom is in minding your own business enough that your name doesn't rise up near to the top of the very very long enemies list.

    It's no disrespect for them to mark you as an NPC. It's good personal safety hygiene.

    Replies: @QCIC

  936. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mr. Hack

    Mr Hack, IMHO Dugin hasn’t ever contributed anything truly original.

    I remember first reading his articles in the late 1990ies - early 2000ies and even then, when he was still somewhat of a fringe figure, only “widely known in narrow circles”, I read them for lulz. Today, he has become less fringe and more cringe. That’s the difference. And his daughter, who was a truly nice, positive and bright young woman died because her dad got into all that crazy fringe politics. That’s a truly tragic story, if I was him I would let it all go and retire into some Old Believer скит to pray our Lord for forgiveness.



    Bottom line, a friendly advice; if you want to understand Dugin, then read Evola, read Guenon, read Junger, read Faye or Alain de Benoist, but don’t waste your time on Dugin himself. Those who imagine Dugin as some “gray eminence” behind Putin’s back don’t understand RusFed.

    Golovin, Dugin’s mentor and guru on the other hand was a truly outstanding person, although probably not a good person from a Christian perspective. If you are able to understand enough spoken Russian, I strongly suggest you look into these videos on the link I already posted to Emil.

    https://golovinfond.ru/

    Replies: @Mikhail

    She clearly wasn’t killed by her father, but by the operation of a regime claiming to be a democracy.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail

    It is almost certain that Ukie terrorists wanted to kill her father, not her. Why him? Because they are hopelessly stupid.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail

    Where have I written that she was killed by her dad ?

    She was killed because of her dad’s political views.

    I agree with Pr Tennessee, targeting Dugin was idiotic. Just like killing Buzina was idiotic. But all that situation in Ukraine is of an outstanding degree of imbecility.

    Whatever the propaganda pretends on either side of that conflict, there is nothing noble or glorious about it.

    The pox on both their (Noviop) houses…

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Another Polish Perspective

  937. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    What will it take for you to start lobbying the Ukrainian and Western governments to capitulate and accept Russian terms?
     
    Why should Ukraine capitulate? Russia is having a hard time maintaining control in Crimea (the headquarters of the Black Sea fleet had to move to the Russian side of the Black Sea a few months back).
    In return for directing its meat waive forces to move forward in Donbas it's acquiring a few villages and bombed out fields, Hurrah. Is it worth it for Russia? Maybe it's you who should be lobbying the Kremlin to retreat before it loses even more lives?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Faithfully upholding traditions? Commendable. Parteigenosse Hitler promised glorious German victory in May of 1945.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Faithfully upholding traditions?
     
    They may as well be praying for an asteroid to hit Moscow. Well, anything is possible.

    Not very smart people when caught-up in a no-win situation become stubborn. They don't understand what is going on.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    Faithfully upholding traditions? Commendable.
     
    Janissaries like you were bred to despise their ancestral home, culture, religion, etc. They were bred to serve foreign interests, not those of their native homeland. Although you understand some things about the Ukrainian culture, I wouldn't expect you to truly uphold any Ukrainian traditions. Although I'm sure that you're well read on many subjects, you're very much like a soulless zombie looking for meaning in all the wrong places.
  938. This radio discussion talks about a morale boosting attempt to destroy the Kerch bridge between May 7 & 9, as well as the miserable performance of the Abrams tanks.

    https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/nato-war-trophies-on-display-in-russias?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

  939. @Mikhail
    @Bashibuzuk

    She clearly wasn't killed by her father, but by the operation of a regime claiming to be a democracy.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Bashibuzuk

    It is almost certain that Ukie terrorists wanted to kill her father, not her. Why him? Because they are hopelessly stupid.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN

    Perhaps both.

  940. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    It doesn't determine loyalty, as AP has demonstrably shown in his follow-up answers, but neither should it be discounted when weighing somebody's loyalties. Do you feel that JJ was way off in making his original point that Yanukovych was most likely interested in keeping Ukraine under the Russian sphere, pointing to his non-Ukrainian ethnic roots? I would point out that for somebody having this inclination, it was paradoxical that he held out so long and supported a pro-EU platform.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Yanuk and his gang were not really pro-Russian. They were entirely “pro-themselves”. They tried to get the sweetest deal possible between RusFed and EC and they failed. And his ancestry has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Is Avakov an ethnic Ukrainian? What about Budanov (a typically Katsap name) ? Arestovitch has Polish Belarusian ancestry and probably Jewish origins on his mom’s side. My odessite friends have Russian, Polish, Jewish ancestry and they mostly speak Russian. But they hate Putin and love Ukraine. OTOH, Mozgovoy was a Khokhol, but he was a pro-Russian militia leader. Buzina was a Khokhol, but he was an anti-nationalist and got killed for that. The diaspora Ukrainians such as yourself and AP put an ethnic angle into this conflict. But it’s different from a war between two ethnic groups. It is first and foremost a war between two cultural realms: the RusFedian one and the Atlanticist one. Neither of these two cultural realms is truly the right one for the Slavs.

  941. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Mikhail
    @Bashibuzuk

    She clearly wasn't killed by her father, but by the operation of a regime claiming to be a democracy.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Bashibuzuk

    Where have I written that she was killed by her dad ?

    She was killed because of her dad’s political views.

    I agree with Pr Tennessee, targeting Dugin was idiotic. Just like killing Buzina was idiotic. But all that situation in Ukraine is of an outstanding degree of imbecility.

    Whatever the propaganda pretends on either side of that conflict, there is nothing noble or glorious about it.

    The pox on both their (Noviop) houses…

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Bashibuzuk


    And his daughter, who was a truly nice, positive and bright young woman died because her dad got into all that crazy fringe politics.
     
    She was killed by the corrupt, lying, undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced Kiev regime, which has blood on its hands before and after 2/24/22.

    In no way should her father be blamed.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    The problem with human sacrifice is that since it does not exist anymore in its proper ritulistic form but as all kinds of masked flower wars (and flower wars without proper sacrifice become proper wars), you must look into things surrounding it (in the case of Dugin, young victim [like in school shootings], death in fire, ceremony of her burial in Ostankino TV tower). Anyway, it was "Jephte's daughter" redux, a proper sacrifice by a parent..

    Also, the Dugin being in the Dugina car could just mask human sacrifice, since everyone would judge that he was the proper target, as killing main ideologues of regime isn't so stupid actually. It is pretty strange that somehow there were two cars there, so Dugin could switch.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

  942. @Bashibuzuk
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Now I know why they put him in prison. Because he disagreed with the compulsory vaccination…

    🙂

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I thought he was put in prison because one Romanian who didn’t get a bribe was furiously jealous that some other Romanians did get bribes. Trolling is not a crime. Except sometimes it can be.

    If you read Barrett’s latest interview he says everybody was telling the students the Kennedy assassination was an inside job. And it was fine. Then he was flabbergasted that telling the students 9/11 was an inside job was grounds to get him fired. This wasn’t anything they hadn’t been doing in mass as routine for years.

    Well no. They have so many rules and regulations and laws that they can lock up anybody any time they want. The only freedom is in minding your own business enough that your name doesn’t rise up near to the top of the very very long enemies list.

    It’s no disrespect for them to mark you as an NPC. It’s good personal safety hygiene.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    If you print the list and lay it out flat, all the names are at the top.

  943. Bashibuzuk says:
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Bashibuzuk

    First welcome back.

    Dugin wrote in The Foundations of Geopolitics-- China, which posed a threat to Russia, had to be “territorially disintegrated, divided, and politically and administratively partitioned” and “split up to the greatest extent possible.

    https://pic4.zhimg.com/v2-781725117214fd2965ece84dbd530d2b_r.jpg

    ...Then he got on the CCP's payroll at Fudan 复旦 University.

    https://p0.51img.ca/i/63063b77f32e3:original.jpeg

    You can see how some Chinese, view him, and the type of wignats gravitated towards him, to be pathetically degenerate.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Bashibuzuk

    Hi Bromance, nice reading you again. I agree that Dugin is not to be taken too seriously. Anyway, I wrote enough about him.

    On another (and more interesting) topic, I wanted to ask you about the origins of the Japanese Imperial dynasty. Are they descendants of some ancient clan from the Korean Peninsula that conquered the native peoples of ancient Japan ?

    I didn’t really look into it, but I am sure that being knowledgeable about the history of the Far East you’d have some interesting facts to share.

    Thanks in advance!

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Bashibuzuk


    about the origins of the Japanese Imperial dynasty. Are they descendants of some ancient clan from the Korean Peninsula that conquered the native peoples of ancient Japan ?
     
    Ideas about the genetic history of Japan were heavily revised after late 2021, with the major change being that the core of the modern Japanese population formed much later than originally thought.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8448447/

    IMO, closest analogy explaining the modern Japanese would be to the Anglo-Saxons invading SE England. Closer in time to that, but more transformative to the population of main islands as a whole.

    If one considers the hunter-gatherer Jōmon the natives, then they were invaded by the Yayoi agriculturists who came by way of Korea around 300 BC.

    The Yayoi were in turn invaded by the Kofun who arrived roughly around 250 or 300 AD, also by way of Korea. Each of the three groups was morphologically different, with the Jōmon being the most distinct.

    There were Yayoi in Korea, and previous to them Jomon, so it is difficult to model, but there was at least 70% genetic replacement in Japan, by the Kofun. (And I think probably more, if one considers they brought admixture with them from Korea)

    Though modern Japanese are most closely related to Koreans, the Kofun themselves more closely resembled modern Han than modern Koreans.

    The Kofun period was when centralization really took off, but the Yayoi had smaller kingdoms. Curiously one of them was called Yamatoi, which almost seems to be a cognate with Yamato, which is what the Japanese call themselves, but possibly it could be a coincidence. Or they may have kept the name of the place, after they conquered it.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamatai

    The first somewhat detailed account of Japan by the Chinese dates to c297 AD.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wajinden

    Probably it was written about the Yayoi. But shockingly the Chinese never recorded different ethnic groups or any conquest of Japan by the Kofun. A lot of immigration took place during Kofun, possibly because of more centralization or more advanced state formation.

    About 1/6 of Japanese clans recorded in the Shinsen Shijiroku c815 AD were said to have an origin in one of the Korean kingdoms, with the majority coming from Baekje after it fell in 660 AD. Some of these had inferred Chinese ancestry based on the characters of their names. Excluding these, about 1/12 of the clans were said to have a Chinese origin.

    IMO, the early line of Japanese emperors is either totally fake, or else they started in Korea or Manchuria and not in Japan.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  944. @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack

    Faithfully upholding traditions? Commendable. Parteigenosse Hitler promised glorious German victory in May of 1945.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    …Faithfully upholding traditions?

    They may as well be praying for an asteroid to hit Moscow. Well, anything is possible.

    Not very smart people when caught-up in a no-win situation become stubborn. They don’t understand what is going on.

  945. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail

    It is almost certain that Ukie terrorists wanted to kill her father, not her. Why him? Because they are hopelessly stupid.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Perhaps both.

  946. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail

    Where have I written that she was killed by her dad ?

    She was killed because of her dad’s political views.

    I agree with Pr Tennessee, targeting Dugin was idiotic. Just like killing Buzina was idiotic. But all that situation in Ukraine is of an outstanding degree of imbecility.

    Whatever the propaganda pretends on either side of that conflict, there is nothing noble or glorious about it.

    The pox on both their (Noviop) houses…

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Another Polish Perspective

    And his daughter, who was a truly nice, positive and bright young woman died because her dad got into all that crazy fringe politics.

    She was killed by the corrupt, lying, undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced Kiev regime, which has blood on its hands before and after 2/24/22.

    In no way should her father be blamed.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail


    undemocratic and neo-Nazi
     
    Written as if it would have been something wrong.

    But of course Kiev’s government is unfortunately none of the above and its flaws are due to it being a corrupt Noviop entity, just like the Moscovite regime is. This confrontation is an intraspecies’ conflict and turf war between two parasitic oligarchic post-Soviet mafia groups. And the soldiers on both sides pay the price, not to mention the suffering of the civilians.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

  947. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    I thought he was put in prison because one Romanian who didn't get a bribe was furiously jealous that some other Romanians did get bribes. Trolling is not a crime. Except sometimes it can be.

    If you read Barrett's latest interview he says everybody was telling the students the Kennedy assassination was an inside job. And it was fine. Then he was flabbergasted that telling the students 9/11 was an inside job was grounds to get him fired. This wasn't anything they hadn't been doing in mass as routine for years.

    Well no. They have so many rules and regulations and laws that they can lock up anybody any time they want. The only freedom is in minding your own business enough that your name doesn't rise up near to the top of the very very long enemies list.

    It's no disrespect for them to mark you as an NPC. It's good personal safety hygiene.

    Replies: @QCIC

    If you print the list and lay it out flat, all the names are at the top.

  948. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The gasoline numbers in the article are fairly modest. The wording is ambiguous so it is tough to say if this means 10% of the refinery output or much less than this.

    You knew this would happen after the drone hits, right? What we don't know is how long the repairs will take. Some people guess this will take a long time due to lack of Western assistance. I guess 6 months, mainly since the pictures of fires seemed modest for a refinery fire. Repair assistance from China, Iran and India should be forthcoming.

    Several questions come to mind:

    -- Will the Ukies (West) start drone bombing of infrastructure in Belarus? Probably a question of when, not if.

    -- If the Russians respond by destroying more critical infrastructure in Kiev will you be so enthusiastic about this process?

    -- What will it take for you to start lobbying the Ukrainian and Western governments to capitulate and accept Russian terms?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    Will the Ukies (West) start drone bombing of infrastructure in Belarus? Probably a question of when, not if.

    Why would they do that?

    Lukashenko rejected numerous requests from Putin to put troops into the war. He also hasn’t signed over his tanks.

    Het let Putin attack through the border when he also believed in the 2.5 week special military operation. But after the bloodbath (Belarus hospitals were overwhelmed with Russian soldiers) he has since stated that he will only attack Ukraine in defense.

    Lukashenko doesn’t believe in the cause.

    It doesn’t make sense for Ukraine to attack them.

    Lukashenko is trying to live out the war without a necktie from either side.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.

    The West has been irrationally committed to the Ukraine campaign so far, so I assume they have always considered expanding their anti-Russia project on to new fronts such as Belarus. As they are driven away from Ukraine they may pop up with vicious new ideas spearheaded by Victoria Nuland wannabes. Some other obvious possible new fronts for the West include Kaliningard, Georgia, the Stans, Armenia and North Korea. Polarizing China and India against Russia are higher levels in this new very dangerous great game, but I think those two possibilities are dead at the moment. The countries such as Belarus are all soft spots for the Kremlin and I believe the requirement to maintain some military protection in these areas is one factor behind Russia's slow campaign in the SMO; in other words they cannot overcommit in Ukraine and leave all these other places exposed to meddling (not to mention the homeland). As Russia gradually shows her strength in Ukraine, the West will face the same concerns they did in Ukraine just before the beginning of the SMO: "Russia appears to be growing stronger (2015-2022) so we [the West] must act now or lose our window of opportunity." Similar growth has been occurring at a higher level from 2022-2024.

    This is all extremely dangerous so I hope I am wrong. Nonetheless the West has previously applied pressure in all of these countries and that is obviously part of their larger anti-Russia plan.

    Lukashenko is wise enough to know the West will throw his rotting corpse out with the trash. He is guiding Belarus down the pro-Russia, quasi-neutrality (vaguely) path that Ukraine should have followed. Ukraine could have had much more agency in such a relationship, but the West whispered in the ears of the leaders who then lost their minds.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

  949. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail

    Where have I written that she was killed by her dad ?

    She was killed because of her dad’s political views.

    I agree with Pr Tennessee, targeting Dugin was idiotic. Just like killing Buzina was idiotic. But all that situation in Ukraine is of an outstanding degree of imbecility.

    Whatever the propaganda pretends on either side of that conflict, there is nothing noble or glorious about it.

    The pox on both their (Noviop) houses…

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Another Polish Perspective

    The problem with human sacrifice is that since it does not exist anymore in its proper ritulistic form but as all kinds of masked flower wars (and flower wars without proper sacrifice become proper wars), you must look into things surrounding it (in the case of Dugin, young victim [like in school shootings], death in fire, ceremony of her burial in Ostankino TV tower). Anyway, it was “Jephte’s daughter” redux, a proper sacrifice by a parent..

    Also, the Dugin being in the Dugina car could just mask human sacrifice, since everyone would judge that he was the proper target, as killing main ideologues of regime isn’t so stupid actually. It is pretty strange that somehow there were two cars there, so Dugin could switch.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    However, to look into it, you must first believe in it, and that's the problem with majority of people, who often like to use the term "human sacrifice" talking about some great casualties but shy away when have to realize that human sacrifice has its rules and above all, its recipient.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @QCIC
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Who says ritualistic human sacrifice doesn't exist any more? I suspect it is now happening in the West at the highest level in a long time.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  950. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    The problem with human sacrifice is that since it does not exist anymore in its proper ritulistic form but as all kinds of masked flower wars (and flower wars without proper sacrifice become proper wars), you must look into things surrounding it (in the case of Dugin, young victim [like in school shootings], death in fire, ceremony of her burial in Ostankino TV tower). Anyway, it was "Jephte's daughter" redux, a proper sacrifice by a parent..

    Also, the Dugin being in the Dugina car could just mask human sacrifice, since everyone would judge that he was the proper target, as killing main ideologues of regime isn't so stupid actually. It is pretty strange that somehow there were two cars there, so Dugin could switch.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

    However, to look into it, you must first believe in it, and that’s the problem with majority of people, who often like to use the term “human sacrifice” talking about some great casualties but shy away when have to realize that human sacrifice has its rules and above all, its recipient.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Another Polish Perspective

    The hitmen punished her for going to Azovstal as a victorious Russia journalist. They’ve have been after her dad but the daughter would do.

  951. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    However, to look into it, you must first believe in it, and that's the problem with majority of people, who often like to use the term "human sacrifice" talking about some great casualties but shy away when have to realize that human sacrifice has its rules and above all, its recipient.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    The hitmen punished her for going to Azovstal as a victorious Russia journalist. They’ve have been after her dad but the daughter would do.

  952. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Look Beckow, I don't have the inclination to retrace your steps nor mine at this point. You said something to the effect that Russisa is responsible for up to 30% loss in Ukraine's energy output, I countered by including information that Gazprom indicated that its own output was down by about 25%. Ukraine is going to continue bombing Russia's refineries throughout 2024 (is there really any doubt?). You can continue to believe that this doesn't effect Russia's economy at the moment, but it soon will. Price increases only go so far, especially if you don't have much to sell. It's no secret that Russia is importing gasoline from Belarus and elsewhere right now. How is that good for the Russian economy?


    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has increased gasoline imports from neighbouring Belarus in March to tackle the risk of shortages in its domestic market because of unscheduled repairs at Russian refineries after drone attacks, four industry and trade sources said on Wednesday.

    Usually Russia is a net exporter of fuel and a supplier to international markets, but the disruption of Russian refining has forced oil companies to import.

    Already Russia banned gasoline exports from March 1 to try to secure enough fuel for its domestic market after repeated Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian refineries since the start of the year.
     

    You don't need a PhD in economics to understand what's going on.

    https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2024-03-27/exclusive-russia-increases-gasoline-imports-from-belarus-as-domestic-supplies-shrink

    Replies: @QCIC, @sudden death

    Gazprom indicated that its own output was down by about 25%

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death

    Gas producers around the world are struggling.

    Due to a warm winter and German de-industrialization, Norway is down (1). Despite theoretical sanctions, Russia has been exporting to Europe. It is no surprise that they are also experiencing diminished revenue.

    Gas is a byproduct of shale oil production in the Permian Basin. Prices in the Gulf Coast U.S. are literally below $0.00. (2)

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/norways-cash-flow-offshore-fields-crashes-due-low-natural-gas-prices

    (2) https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/permian-shrugs-below-zero-natural-gas-prices-texas

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @sudden death

    Talk is cheap.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8U-81BXgAAYeX8.jpg

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTfDpw3g9ohvQnraCi1ypLsLjN2zalbsDLD7g&s.jpg

  953. A123 says: • Website
    @sudden death
    @Mr. Hack


    Gazprom indicated that its own output was down by about 25%
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMleERAW4AAOc9S.png

    Replies: @A123, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Gas producers around the world are struggling.

    Due to a warm winter and German de-industrialization, Norway is down (1). Despite theoretical sanctions, Russia has been exporting to Europe. It is no surprise that they are also experiencing diminished revenue.

    Gas is a byproduct of shale oil production in the Permian Basin. Prices in the Gulf Coast U.S. are literally below $0.00. (2)

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/norways-cash-flow-offshore-fields-crashes-due-low-natural-gas-prices

    (2) https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/permian-shrugs-below-zero-natural-gas-prices-texas

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    In Hack's original post during this exchange, I think he unintentionally conflated Russian natural gas production (sales) with gasoline refinery production. This may have added some subtle confusion to the lively dialog which followed.

    +++

    Is any Russian gas still transiting through Ukraine?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

  954. QCIC says:
    @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Will the Ukies (West) start drone bombing of infrastructure in Belarus? Probably a question of when, not if.

    Why would they do that?

    Lukashenko rejected numerous requests from Putin to put troops into the war. He also hasn't signed over his tanks.

    Het let Putin attack through the border when he also believed in the 2.5 week special military operation. But after the bloodbath (Belarus hospitals were overwhelmed with Russian soldiers) he has since stated that he will only attack Ukraine in defense.

    Lukashenko doesn't believe in the cause.

    It doesn't make sense for Ukraine to attack them.

    Lukashenko is trying to live out the war without a necktie from either side.

    Replies: @QCIC

    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.

    The West has been irrationally committed to the Ukraine campaign so far, so I assume they have always considered expanding their anti-Russia project on to new fronts such as Belarus. As they are driven away from Ukraine they may pop up with vicious new ideas spearheaded by Victoria Nuland wannabes. Some other obvious possible new fronts for the West include Kaliningard, Georgia, the Stans, Armenia and North Korea. Polarizing China and India against Russia are higher levels in this new very dangerous great game, but I think those two possibilities are dead at the moment. The countries such as Belarus are all soft spots for the Kremlin and I believe the requirement to maintain some military protection in these areas is one factor behind Russia’s slow campaign in the SMO; in other words they cannot overcommit in Ukraine and leave all these other places exposed to meddling (not to mention the homeland). As Russia gradually shows her strength in Ukraine, the West will face the same concerns they did in Ukraine just before the beginning of the SMO: “Russia appears to be growing stronger (2015-2022) so we [the West] must act now or lose our window of opportunity.” Similar growth has been occurring at a higher level from 2022-2024.

    This is all extremely dangerous so I hope I am wrong. Nonetheless the West has previously applied pressure in all of these countries and that is obviously part of their larger anti-Russia plan.

    Lukashenko is wise enough to know the West will throw his rotting corpse out with the trash. He is guiding Belarus down the pro-Russia, quasi-neutrality (vaguely) path that Ukraine should have followed. Ukraine could have had much more agency in such a relationship, but the West whispered in the ears of the leaders who then lost their minds.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.
     
    If this were true, the Ukrainians would stop bombing Russian refineries, which they clearly haven't stopped doing.

    What you really have, are two countries with similar anti-Russian platforms, cementing their mutually advantageous relationship. The US is continuing to fight its traditional adversary that its had since the end of WWII, and Ukraine, today fighting for its autonomy and ability to stand on its own and not become a Russian satellite (again), or even worse experience a total national genocide.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.

    Ukraine didn't elect the pro-NATO candidate that had Western backers. Zelensky defeated Poroshenko.

    Ukraine did not follow Western warnings on an imminent invasion by Putin and disregarded the advice of US generals to put their military in battle mode. Troops were able to pour through the Belarusian border because Ukraine ignored the US and Britain.

    Ukraine did not follow US advice to not waste lives over Bakhmut and disregarded the advice of US generals to lead a strategic withdrawal.

    Ukraine is currently attacking Russian oil refineries when the US asked them numerous times to select other targets.

    You would look at all those points and describe Ukraine as being controlled by the West?

    Lukashenko is wise enough to know the West will throw his rotting corpse out with the trash. He is guiding Belarus down the pro-Russia, quasi-neutrality (vaguely) path that Ukraine should have followed. Ukraine could have had much more agency in such a relationship

    LPR and DPR outwardly aligned themselves with Russia. Do they now have agency?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  955. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    The problem with human sacrifice is that since it does not exist anymore in its proper ritulistic form but as all kinds of masked flower wars (and flower wars without proper sacrifice become proper wars), you must look into things surrounding it (in the case of Dugin, young victim [like in school shootings], death in fire, ceremony of her burial in Ostankino TV tower). Anyway, it was "Jephte's daughter" redux, a proper sacrifice by a parent..

    Also, the Dugin being in the Dugina car could just mask human sacrifice, since everyone would judge that he was the proper target, as killing main ideologues of regime isn't so stupid actually. It is pretty strange that somehow there were two cars there, so Dugin could switch.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

    Who says ritualistic human sacrifice doesn’t exist any more? I suspect it is now happening in the West at the highest level in a long time.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @QCIC

    Well, the classical human sacrifice (Phoenician-style) involves sacrificing your own children, so we would know if elites children have higher mortality rate.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

  956. @A123
    @sudden death

    Gas producers around the world are struggling.

    Due to a warm winter and German de-industrialization, Norway is down (1). Despite theoretical sanctions, Russia has been exporting to Europe. It is no surprise that they are also experiencing diminished revenue.

    Gas is a byproduct of shale oil production in the Permian Basin. Prices in the Gulf Coast U.S. are literally below $0.00. (2)

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/norways-cash-flow-offshore-fields-crashes-due-low-natural-gas-prices

    (2) https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/permian-shrugs-below-zero-natural-gas-prices-texas

    Replies: @QCIC

    In Hack’s original post during this exchange, I think he unintentionally conflated Russian natural gas production (sales) with gasoline refinery production. This may have added some subtle confusion to the lively dialog which followed.

    +++

    Is any Russian gas still transiting through Ukraine?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    I think he unintentionally conflated Russian natural gas production (sales) with gasoline refinery production. This may have added some subtle confusion to the lively dialog which followed.
     
    Production and sales, especially in Russia's case. are directly related. Why do you think that the Ukrainians are targeting these refineries in the first place?

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @A123
    @QCIC


    Is any Russian gas still transiting through Ukraine?
     
    My understanding is both gas and oil are flowing through Ukraine. And, Moscow is paying Kiev the agreed transit fees. Yet more evidence that this is a very limited SMO. An all out war would have been much harder on such infrastructure.

    IIRC, the contracts need to be renewed/extended in the next 12-18 months. Kiev is playing a dangerous card trying to use energy as a weapon. If they do not extend the deals, European buyers will be motivated to apply pressure. Imagine Russian military flights out of Hungarian airfields towards Lviv...

    PEACE 😇
  957. @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack

    Faithfully upholding traditions? Commendable. Parteigenosse Hitler promised glorious German victory in May of 1945.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    Faithfully upholding traditions? Commendable.

    Janissaries like you were bred to despise their ancestral home, culture, religion, etc. They were bred to serve foreign interests, not those of their native homeland. Although you understand some things about the Ukrainian culture, I wouldn’t expect you to truly uphold any Ukrainian traditions. Although I’m sure that you’re well read on many subjects, you’re very much like a soulless zombie looking for meaning in all the wrong places.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Troll: QCIC
  958. @QCIC
    @A123

    In Hack's original post during this exchange, I think he unintentionally conflated Russian natural gas production (sales) with gasoline refinery production. This may have added some subtle confusion to the lively dialog which followed.

    +++

    Is any Russian gas still transiting through Ukraine?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    I think he unintentionally conflated Russian natural gas production (sales) with gasoline refinery production. This may have added some subtle confusion to the lively dialog which followed.

    Production and sales, especially in Russia’s case. are directly related. Why do you think that the Ukrainians are targeting these refineries in the first place?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    Production and sales, especially in Russia’s case. are directly related.
     
    They are related everywhere in the world, same in the US, Saudi, Norway...It is called capitalism, get a book on the topic...:)

    The point is that 'gas' (Gazprom) goes through pipelines or LNG and gasoline is produced in refineries from oil. Two different things. You missed the 30% drop in Ukraine's energy production (gas, thermo, nuclear, hydro) that is much more significant.

    You are right that Kiev and US disagree on targeting Russian refineries. It hurts the West to take any production off-line - it raises prices. Kiev doesn't care. That suggests internal divisions and an emotional lack of control. Or chaos in Kiev.

    The writing is on the wall. All you need to do is look-up and read it...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  959. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.

    The West has been irrationally committed to the Ukraine campaign so far, so I assume they have always considered expanding their anti-Russia project on to new fronts such as Belarus. As they are driven away from Ukraine they may pop up with vicious new ideas spearheaded by Victoria Nuland wannabes. Some other obvious possible new fronts for the West include Kaliningard, Georgia, the Stans, Armenia and North Korea. Polarizing China and India against Russia are higher levels in this new very dangerous great game, but I think those two possibilities are dead at the moment. The countries such as Belarus are all soft spots for the Kremlin and I believe the requirement to maintain some military protection in these areas is one factor behind Russia's slow campaign in the SMO; in other words they cannot overcommit in Ukraine and leave all these other places exposed to meddling (not to mention the homeland). As Russia gradually shows her strength in Ukraine, the West will face the same concerns they did in Ukraine just before the beginning of the SMO: "Russia appears to be growing stronger (2015-2022) so we [the West] must act now or lose our window of opportunity." Similar growth has been occurring at a higher level from 2022-2024.

    This is all extremely dangerous so I hope I am wrong. Nonetheless the West has previously applied pressure in all of these countries and that is obviously part of their larger anti-Russia plan.

    Lukashenko is wise enough to know the West will throw his rotting corpse out with the trash. He is guiding Belarus down the pro-Russia, quasi-neutrality (vaguely) path that Ukraine should have followed. Ukraine could have had much more agency in such a relationship, but the West whispered in the ears of the leaders who then lost their minds.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.

    If this were true, the Ukrainians would stop bombing Russian refineries, which they clearly haven’t stopped doing.

    What you really have, are two countries with similar anti-Russian platforms, cementing their mutually advantageous relationship. The US is continuing to fight its traditional adversary that its had since the end of WWII, and Ukraine, today fighting for its autonomy and ability to stand on its own and not become a Russian satellite (again), or even worse experience a total national genocide.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    It is cute how you see Ukraine standing shoulder to shoulder with soulmate/big brother USA fighting the Russian scourge. It is ridiculous that you believe any pronouncement by the US government such as "Golly gee, Ukraine is ignoring our directives and bombing Russian refineries against the will of the USA." At the moment this is just hot air to give a fig leaf for the West. Ultimately it will be turned around to show how incorrigible the Ukies are to justify the USA walking away. There will be a great revelation by Tony Blinkers, "Hey, no one told me there are Nazis in Ukraine. The (((USA))) will not stand for that!"

    L.O.L.

    PS: I need to get my ((( ))) in before they are censored!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  960. @QCIC
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Who says ritualistic human sacrifice doesn't exist any more? I suspect it is now happening in the West at the highest level in a long time.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Well, the classical human sacrifice (Phoenician-style) involves sacrificing your own children, so we would know if elites children have higher mortality rate.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    I am sure Dugin knows all these theories, so he was kind of signalling, organizing her funeral in the highest building of Moscow.
    And BTW what was her own confession?!

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    , @QCIC
    @Another Polish Perspective

    The "Elites" would not divulge such information accidentally. Since the MSM and publishing are fully controlled one would have to discern this information from secondary sources.

  961. @Another Polish Perspective
    @QCIC

    Well, the classical human sacrifice (Phoenician-style) involves sacrificing your own children, so we would know if elites children have higher mortality rate.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

    I am sure Dugin knows all these theories, so he was kind of signalling, organizing her funeral in the highest building of Moscow.
    And BTW what was her own confession?!

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Maybe she disappointed her father as she dabbled in his field. Philosophy is kind of artistic field, and children of artists as a rule are worse than their parents in their field.

    The fact that she has chosen as her pseudonim "Platonova", allegedly to honour Plato, in the Russian context does not prove her great intelligence (and the sense of irony), since of course "Platonova" sounds like a rhyme to "Platonov", a rather non-Platonic character of the play by Czechov, who in no way could be an Euroasianist hero.

    Interestingly, Dugin's son doesn't have much in common with Eurasianism.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  962. Trump made curious comments that Paris and London are unrecognizable now. And it needs to be stopped before it happens here.

    Especially for someone of Trump’s age, America should no longer be recognizable. Certainly none of its cities. But he was speaking in Wisconsin, which though no longer recognizable as Wisconsin, must at least resemble the NYC of Trump’s youth.

    And the other side picked them up, which is where one might think Trump was playing 4D chess again. Because it conjoins America with Europe, making the Dems commit to the idea that you are racist if you complain about Europe being invaded, which I think will irk even some weak-willed people. IMO, this is perhaps what Trump should have been saying since day one of his first campaign.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @songbird


    ...Trump was playing 4D chess again
     
    He has good instincts, I am not sure he has thought it through. The reality is that London-Paris-Brussels are not what they used to be and they are visibly non-European. Even very liberal people bemoan it in private - many progressive politicians say it but never admit it was their policies that led to it.

    Great leaders always have luck on their side. But maybe what we call luck is the intuitive ability to see things as they are and the courage to say it. Trump seems to have both - he is in touch with the zeitgeist.

    One reason the unhinged Dems are trying the over-the-top lawfare against Trump is to send a subliminal message that "Trump is now a loser", that his luck has run out. It is not working - it only makes him more sympathetic to people who had hard lives and feel slighted by the system.

    This is truly a clown-show for the ages...:)

    Replies: @songbird, @AnonfromTN

  963. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Mikhail
    @Bashibuzuk


    And his daughter, who was a truly nice, positive and bright young woman died because her dad got into all that crazy fringe politics.
     
    She was killed by the corrupt, lying, undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced Kiev regime, which has blood on its hands before and after 2/24/22.

    In no way should her father be blamed.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    undemocratic and neo-Nazi

    Written as if it would have been something wrong.

    But of course Kiev’s government is unfortunately none of the above and its flaws are due to it being a corrupt Noviop entity, just like the Moscovite regime is. This confrontation is an intraspecies’ conflict and turf war between two parasitic oligarchic post-Soviet mafia groups. And the soldiers on both sides pay the price, not to mention the suffering of the civilians.

    • Disagree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    I see the nuclear forces of superpowers as somewhat of a separate entity from the elite parasites who control and believe they own our political systems. These independent nuclear entities are vicious, rabid dogs but are considered to be permanently dormant. Maybe they should be called Fenrir's puppies. So the West has a couple of rabid dogs, Russia has one and China has one. As long as these dogs sleep then no harm occurs.

    The concern is that elites, Noviops, Kabbalists, random Ukies, whoever step on the dog's tail and he starts biting heads off.

    The biological weapons aspect seems entirely different and I think is more woven into the power games, but only near the highest peak of the pyramid.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Mikhail
    @Bashibuzuk

    Factually speaking, the Kiev regime is undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced. Russia was fine with a neutral Ukraine that respected its pro-Russian inhabitants.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  964. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.

    The West has been irrationally committed to the Ukraine campaign so far, so I assume they have always considered expanding their anti-Russia project on to new fronts such as Belarus. As they are driven away from Ukraine they may pop up with vicious new ideas spearheaded by Victoria Nuland wannabes. Some other obvious possible new fronts for the West include Kaliningard, Georgia, the Stans, Armenia and North Korea. Polarizing China and India against Russia are higher levels in this new very dangerous great game, but I think those two possibilities are dead at the moment. The countries such as Belarus are all soft spots for the Kremlin and I believe the requirement to maintain some military protection in these areas is one factor behind Russia's slow campaign in the SMO; in other words they cannot overcommit in Ukraine and leave all these other places exposed to meddling (not to mention the homeland). As Russia gradually shows her strength in Ukraine, the West will face the same concerns they did in Ukraine just before the beginning of the SMO: "Russia appears to be growing stronger (2015-2022) so we [the West] must act now or lose our window of opportunity." Similar growth has been occurring at a higher level from 2022-2024.

    This is all extremely dangerous so I hope I am wrong. Nonetheless the West has previously applied pressure in all of these countries and that is obviously part of their larger anti-Russia plan.

    Lukashenko is wise enough to know the West will throw his rotting corpse out with the trash. He is guiding Belarus down the pro-Russia, quasi-neutrality (vaguely) path that Ukraine should have followed. Ukraine could have had much more agency in such a relationship, but the West whispered in the ears of the leaders who then lost their minds.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.

    Ukraine didn’t elect the pro-NATO candidate that had Western backers. Zelensky defeated Poroshenko.

    Ukraine did not follow Western warnings on an imminent invasion by Putin and disregarded the advice of US generals to put their military in battle mode. Troops were able to pour through the Belarusian border because Ukraine ignored the US and Britain.

    Ukraine did not follow US advice to not waste lives over Bakhmut and disregarded the advice of US generals to lead a strategic withdrawal.

    Ukraine is currently attacking Russian oil refineries when the US asked them numerous times to select other targets.

    You would look at all those points and describe Ukraine as being controlled by the West?

    Lukashenko is wise enough to know the West will throw his rotting corpse out with the trash. He is guiding Belarus down the pro-Russia, quasi-neutrality (vaguely) path that Ukraine should have followed. Ukraine could have had much more agency in such a relationship

    LPR and DPR outwardly aligned themselves with Russia. Do they now have agency?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Oh, you are starting to publish cya DoD and CIA excuses for losing the war now?

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

  965. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    I think he unintentionally conflated Russian natural gas production (sales) with gasoline refinery production. This may have added some subtle confusion to the lively dialog which followed.
     
    Production and sales, especially in Russia's case. are directly related. Why do you think that the Ukrainians are targeting these refineries in the first place?

    Replies: @Beckow

    Production and sales, especially in Russia’s case. are directly related.

    They are related everywhere in the world, same in the US, Saudi, Norway…It is called capitalism, get a book on the topic…:)

    The point is that ‘gas’ (Gazprom) goes through pipelines or LNG and gasoline is produced in refineries from oil. Two different things. You missed the 30% drop in Ukraine’s energy production (gas, thermo, nuclear, hydro) that is much more significant.

    You are right that Kiev and US disagree on targeting Russian refineries. It hurts the West to take any production off-line – it raises prices. Kiev doesn’t care. That suggests internal divisions and an emotional lack of control. Or chaos in Kiev.

    The writing is on the wall. All you need to do is look-up and read it…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    It seems that Gazprom is strictly involved in the production of natural gas, whereas I thought that it also was also involved in oil production too. The story is however similar for oil production companies like Lukoil and Rosneft:


    Mykhailo Gonchar, the president of the Centre for Global Studies "Strategy XXI" group, previously told Newsweek that analysis found the average daily oil refining capacity in Rosneft had slumped by a fifth (19 percent) compared with January...In the first three days of April, Russian refiners produced an average of 5.25 million barrels a day, significantly lower than the 5.78 million barrels of crude processed in the first days of April a year ago, according to an assessment by Bloomberg...The ineffectiveness of Western sanctions against Russia in the sector of oil and oil products forces Ukraine to strike at Russian oil refining,"
     
    https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-attacks-cripple-russian-oil-exports-1890377

    Replies: @QCIC

  966. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.

    Ukraine didn't elect the pro-NATO candidate that had Western backers. Zelensky defeated Poroshenko.

    Ukraine did not follow Western warnings on an imminent invasion by Putin and disregarded the advice of US generals to put their military in battle mode. Troops were able to pour through the Belarusian border because Ukraine ignored the US and Britain.

    Ukraine did not follow US advice to not waste lives over Bakhmut and disregarded the advice of US generals to lead a strategic withdrawal.

    Ukraine is currently attacking Russian oil refineries when the US asked them numerous times to select other targets.

    You would look at all those points and describe Ukraine as being controlled by the West?

    Lukashenko is wise enough to know the West will throw his rotting corpse out with the trash. He is guiding Belarus down the pro-Russia, quasi-neutrality (vaguely) path that Ukraine should have followed. Ukraine could have had much more agency in such a relationship

    LPR and DPR outwardly aligned themselves with Russia. Do they now have agency?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Oh, you are starting to publish cya DoD and CIA excuses for losing the war now?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Wokechoke


    ...publish cya DoD and CIA excuses for losing the war now
     
    JJ has been doing their talking points like a not-very-smart bot for a while. He pretends to believe the most idiotic 'leaks'. On to "cya"...whole departments are drafting it now.

    The coming cya: Zelko failed, Trump's fault, "we won, it will just take years to see..." - that's what they did after losing in Chechnya, remember 'Russia will never win! insurgency forever!' as Russia was already in full control.

    And the perennial cya: 'it was too costly, it is only a Pyrrhic victory'. They have done it for years with the catastrophic loss to Russia in WW2. I am pretty sure the Frenchies did it with Napoleon. Simple people, simple thoughts...:)

    , @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Oh, you are starting to publish cya DoD and CIA excuses for losing the war now?

    I responded to your claim that Ukraine is under the control of the West.

    I provided numerous counter-points and you are now ignoring them.

    Did you want to respond to my points or do your usual MO which is to call me a Jew and run off like a little girl?

    What is it like being such a coward? A shell of a man that can't face reality?

    Why do you even bother trying to do damage control for your mass murdering dwarf if you can't make rational points like a White man?

    Just admit your are no different than some tribal African who puts his faith in BIG MAN even if he can't explain why he should follow him.

    You're one of the most pathetic Putin defenders here. In case you hadn't noticed most of the Putin bloggers no longer try to run damage control for him. You however seem to think the 2.5 week operation now on year 2.5 is worth defending.

    You try to make an argument, get called out on its bullshit and then you run away.

    If you worked from reason to begin with and not your batshit crazy "EVERYONE QUESTIONING ME MUST BE A JEW" position of paranoia then you might actually not make such embarrassing posts. Try considering the possibility that reality might be more complex than one giant Jewish conspiracy.

  967. @songbird
    Trump made curious comments that Paris and London are unrecognizable now. And it needs to be stopped before it happens here.

    Especially for someone of Trump's age, America should no longer be recognizable. Certainly none of its cities. But he was speaking in Wisconsin, which though no longer recognizable as Wisconsin, must at least resemble the NYC of Trump's youth.

    And the other side picked them up, which is where one might think Trump was playing 4D chess again. Because it conjoins America with Europe, making the Dems commit to the idea that you are racist if you complain about Europe being invaded, which I think will irk even some weak-willed people. IMO, this is perhaps what Trump should have been saying since day one of his first campaign.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Trump was playing 4D chess again

    He has good instincts, I am not sure he has thought it through. The reality is that London-Paris-Brussels are not what they used to be and they are visibly non-European. Even very liberal people bemoan it in private – many progressive politicians say it but never admit it was their policies that led to it.

    Great leaders always have luck on their side. But maybe what we call luck is the intuitive ability to see things as they are and the courage to say it. Trump seems to have both – he is in touch with the zeitgeist.

    One reason the unhinged Dems are trying the over-the-top lawfare against Trump is to send a subliminal message that “Trump is now a loser“, that his luck has run out. It is not working – it only makes him more sympathetic to people who had hard lives and feel slighted by the system.

    This is truly a clown-show for the ages…:)

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Beckow


    This is truly a clown-show for the ages…:)
     
    As an American, my political hopes for the future are quite modest. My dream is a three-way VP debate between Vivek, Harris, and one of those expert Indian snake-catchers.
    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    I am sorry to disappoint you, but Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes, while pressing US problems of border security and crumbling infrastructure are ignored. His only advantages are that he is not demented, like Biden, and not mad, like libtards.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel

  968. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Oh, you are starting to publish cya DoD and CIA excuses for losing the war now?

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    …publish cya DoD and CIA excuses for losing the war now

    JJ has been doing their talking points like a not-very-smart bot for a while. He pretends to believe the most idiotic ‘leaks’. On to “cya”…whole departments are drafting it now.

    The coming cya: Zelko failed, Trump’s fault, “we won, it will just take years to see…” – that’s what they did after losing in Chechnya, remember ‘Russia will never win! insurgency forever!’ as Russia was already in full control.

    And the perennial cya: ‘it was too costly, it is only a Pyrrhic victory‘. They have done it for years with the catastrophic loss to Russia in WW2. I am pretty sure the Frenchies did it with Napoleon. Simple people, simple thoughts…:)

  969. QCIC says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    The Ukies do what the West pays them to do.
     
    If this were true, the Ukrainians would stop bombing Russian refineries, which they clearly haven't stopped doing.

    What you really have, are two countries with similar anti-Russian platforms, cementing their mutually advantageous relationship. The US is continuing to fight its traditional adversary that its had since the end of WWII, and Ukraine, today fighting for its autonomy and ability to stand on its own and not become a Russian satellite (again), or even worse experience a total national genocide.

    Replies: @QCIC

    It is cute how you see Ukraine standing shoulder to shoulder with soulmate/big brother USA fighting the Russian scourge. It is ridiculous that you believe any pronouncement by the US government such as “Golly gee, Ukraine is ignoring our directives and bombing Russian refineries against the will of the USA.” At the moment this is just hot air to give a fig leaf for the West. Ultimately it will be turned around to show how incorrigible the Ukies are to justify the USA walking away. There will be a great revelation by Tony Blinkers, “Hey, no one told me there are Nazis in Ukraine. The (((USA))) will not stand for that!”

    L.O.L.

    PS: I need to get my ((( ))) in before they are censored!

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    At the moment this is just hot air to give a fig leaf for the West.
     
    Golly gee QCIC, what "fig tree" might that be?...
  970. @Another Polish Perspective
    @QCIC

    Well, the classical human sacrifice (Phoenician-style) involves sacrificing your own children, so we would know if elites children have higher mortality rate.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

    The “Elites” would not divulge such information accidentally. Since the MSM and publishing are fully controlled one would have to discern this information from secondary sources.

  971. QCIC says:
    @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail


    undemocratic and neo-Nazi
     
    Written as if it would have been something wrong.

    But of course Kiev’s government is unfortunately none of the above and its flaws are due to it being a corrupt Noviop entity, just like the Moscovite regime is. This confrontation is an intraspecies’ conflict and turf war between two parasitic oligarchic post-Soviet mafia groups. And the soldiers on both sides pay the price, not to mention the suffering of the civilians.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    I see the nuclear forces of superpowers as somewhat of a separate entity from the elite parasites who control and believe they own our political systems. These independent nuclear entities are vicious, rabid dogs but are considered to be permanently dormant. Maybe they should be called Fenrir’s puppies. So the West has a couple of rabid dogs, Russia has one and China has one. As long as these dogs sleep then no harm occurs.

    The concern is that elites, Noviops, Kabbalists, random Ukies, whoever step on the dog’s tail and he starts biting heads off.

    The biological weapons aspect seems entirely different and I think is more woven into the power games, but only near the highest peak of the pyramid.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    The men who control the nukes also have a legal structure to take complete control of the country. Continuity of Government. It was originally in case of nuclear war specifically, but gradually between Iran_Contra in the 1980's and Sept 2001 it was expanded to apply to any sufficient national emergency. If things get out of hand the North American theater commander is dictator of the United States.

    About all he has to do is say so and the military falls right in line like queued up dominoes. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumseld ran all the committees who did this dirty work. This is the main reason they were on top of the ladder for 25 freaking years.

    Gregory M. Guillot
    this tool:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Gen_Gregory_M._Guillot_%282%29.jpg/440px-Gen_Gregory_M._Guillot_%282%29.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC

  972. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    Production and sales, especially in Russia’s case. are directly related.
     
    They are related everywhere in the world, same in the US, Saudi, Norway...It is called capitalism, get a book on the topic...:)

    The point is that 'gas' (Gazprom) goes through pipelines or LNG and gasoline is produced in refineries from oil. Two different things. You missed the 30% drop in Ukraine's energy production (gas, thermo, nuclear, hydro) that is much more significant.

    You are right that Kiev and US disagree on targeting Russian refineries. It hurts the West to take any production off-line - it raises prices. Kiev doesn't care. That suggests internal divisions and an emotional lack of control. Or chaos in Kiev.

    The writing is on the wall. All you need to do is look-up and read it...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    It seems that Gazprom is strictly involved in the production of natural gas, whereas I thought that it also was also involved in oil production too. The story is however similar for oil production companies like Lukoil and Rosneft:

    Mykhailo Gonchar, the president of the Centre for Global Studies “Strategy XXI” group, previously told Newsweek that analysis found the average daily oil refining capacity in Rosneft had slumped by a fifth (19 percent) compared with January…In the first three days of April, Russian refiners produced an average of 5.25 million barrels a day, significantly lower than the 5.78 million barrels of crude processed in the first days of April a year ago, according to an assessment by Bloomberg…The ineffectiveness of Western sanctions against Russia in the sector of oil and oil products forces Ukraine to strike at Russian oil refining,”

    https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-attacks-cripple-russian-oil-exports-1890377

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I agree with your general point that the West and Ukraine have been working to reduce Russia's ability to produce and sell natural gas and petroleum products. Understanding the details based on PR from all sides is an imperfect process.

    Replies: @Beckow

  973. @QCIC
    @Bashibuzuk

    I see the nuclear forces of superpowers as somewhat of a separate entity from the elite parasites who control and believe they own our political systems. These independent nuclear entities are vicious, rabid dogs but are considered to be permanently dormant. Maybe they should be called Fenrir's puppies. So the West has a couple of rabid dogs, Russia has one and China has one. As long as these dogs sleep then no harm occurs.

    The concern is that elites, Noviops, Kabbalists, random Ukies, whoever step on the dog's tail and he starts biting heads off.

    The biological weapons aspect seems entirely different and I think is more woven into the power games, but only near the highest peak of the pyramid.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The men who control the nukes also have a legal structure to take complete control of the country. Continuity of Government. It was originally in case of nuclear war specifically, but gradually between Iran_Contra in the 1980’s and Sept 2001 it was expanded to apply to any sufficient national emergency. If things get out of hand the North American theater commander is dictator of the United States.

    About all he has to do is say so and the military falls right in line like queued up dominoes. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumseld ran all the committees who did this dirty work. This is the main reason they were on top of the ladder for 25 freaking years.

    Gregory M. Guillot
    this tool:

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Similar legal structures must exist allowing the military to control the country from the perspective of biological weapons and warfare. I assume this is the elephant in the room for both COVID and the mRNA shots. These power structures probably overlap with those for nuclear warfare control as well as those for non-weaponized public health crises. I'm sure everyone handling these unprecedented powers is competent, wise, has integrity and keeps our best interests in mind at all times.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  974. @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Look into Golovin, he was a unique individual. It’s a shame that he is not better known. He was their “spiritual mentor “, Dugin once said that “Golovin is a god” (aoodoo bil’Lah from this filthy Russian schirk !). Golovin was an exceptionally gifted individual and he was psychologically strong enough to go against the Soviet way of life, against all its moral and social norms. When Mamleev was exiled from the Soviet Union, Golovin became the de facto guru of that circle.

    https://golovinfond.ru/

    That is site has been created by the Dugin’s Eurasianist movement members. And when we see that people such as Olena Semeniaka are borderline left hand path folks, we shouldn’t be surprised, because Golovin rejected outright the distinction between left and right hand paths. For him it was just all human misconceptions. And perhaps he was right about that.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

    On page 31 Arnold says the movement was based on library books.

    Mamleev cited 25 such sources of the occult underground – in Russian, English, and German – that he encountered in the 1950’s. Among them figure five by the founder of Anthroposophy Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925), two by the founder of Theosophy, the Russian-born Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-1891), four by the major French occultist Papus (Gérard Encausse, 1865-1916), two by the “founding father of occultism”, Eliphas Lévi (Alphonse-Louis Constant, 1810-1875), as well as works by the
    “dissident Theosophist” Édouard Schuré (1841-1929), the occultist “philosopher of mysticism” Du Prel (Karl Freiherr von Prel, 1839-1899), George Ivanovich Gurdjieff (1866-1949), Piotr Ouspensky (1878-1947), Carl Jung (1875-1961), and others.

    The cult of New York Times hates Anthroposophy in modern U. S. They are purportedly a bunch of anti-vaxer morons. In any case that is worth noting Steiner is number one on the list. He was murdered. Presumably by a rival cult who takes all this stuff way too seriously, but possibly by the German Nazi Party who considered all other cults mortal enemies. I haven’t read Schure or Prel. I’m not seeing any proper Nihilism here.

    Binge drinking is a feature. That is definitely more Gurdjieff than Steiner.

    The genesis is these books were in the Soviet library and not censored and these free spirits were working with what was available. It was not a group of Anthroposophists. It was a group of guys for whom that type book was an entry point into a universe which was not as dull as the Soviet system career they were groomed for.

    Arnold says Golovin took the scene over and he was a great Nihilist.

    Have you read Morning of the Magicians? That book was regarded with great disdain by my first esoteric teachers. Pure poppycock. I finally got around to reading it 4 or 5 years ago and it is a marvelous book.

    Anyway at this point I am only half way through Arnold’s masters thesis. It is entertaining as hell. As for practical applications though this stuff is gobbledygook. There is no chance Putin and cronies have read Dugin in all of his glory.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Have you read Morning of the Magicians? That book was regarded with great disdain by my first esoteric teachers. Pure poppycock. I finally got around to reading it 4 or 5 years ago and it is a marvelous book.
     
    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QAceGhT0jWE/WFPN4hbzO4I/AAAAAAAAfFk/FtdIRvL9TbQU75S4Syrp06t4ASrBUqHKQCPcB/s1600/Jacques%2BBergier%2B-%2BMik%2BKanrokitoff.jpg

    Bergier was a good acquaintance of Hergé.

    🙂
  975. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    It is cute how you see Ukraine standing shoulder to shoulder with soulmate/big brother USA fighting the Russian scourge. It is ridiculous that you believe any pronouncement by the US government such as "Golly gee, Ukraine is ignoring our directives and bombing Russian refineries against the will of the USA." At the moment this is just hot air to give a fig leaf for the West. Ultimately it will be turned around to show how incorrigible the Ukies are to justify the USA walking away. There will be a great revelation by Tony Blinkers, "Hey, no one told me there are Nazis in Ukraine. The (((USA))) will not stand for that!"

    L.O.L.

    PS: I need to get my ((( ))) in before they are censored!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    At the moment this is just hot air to give a fig leaf for the West.

    Golly gee QCIC, what “fig tree” might that be?…

  976. @Beckow
    @songbird


    ...Trump was playing 4D chess again
     
    He has good instincts, I am not sure he has thought it through. The reality is that London-Paris-Brussels are not what they used to be and they are visibly non-European. Even very liberal people bemoan it in private - many progressive politicians say it but never admit it was their policies that led to it.

    Great leaders always have luck on their side. But maybe what we call luck is the intuitive ability to see things as they are and the courage to say it. Trump seems to have both - he is in touch with the zeitgeist.

    One reason the unhinged Dems are trying the over-the-top lawfare against Trump is to send a subliminal message that "Trump is now a loser", that his luck has run out. It is not working - it only makes him more sympathetic to people who had hard lives and feel slighted by the system.

    This is truly a clown-show for the ages...:)

    Replies: @songbird, @AnonfromTN

    This is truly a clown-show for the ages…:)

    As an American, my political hopes for the future are quite modest. My dream is a three-way VP debate between Vivek, Harris, and one of those expert Indian snake-catchers.

  977. This is really amazing!

    Orang observed chewing plant and applying it as a poultice to his wound.

    [MORE]

  978. @AP
    @Gerard1234

    Do you still think that Mikhail Bulgakov was a Ukrainian writer, like those KGB chiefs were supposedly Ukrainian?

    You keep avoiding that question.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Do you still think that Mikhail Bulgakov was a Ukrainian writer, like those KGB chiefs were supposedly Ukrainian?

    You keep avoiding that question.

    WHAT question “avoided”, you dickhead fantasist? I am still recovering from the injuries sustained in laughter from your bimbo retard “Nazi’s were Prussian/Protestant sect” . I could have recovered from that without surgery…..but then you exacerbated that by mentioning Nuremberg to “support” your claim!!! Idiotic in so many ways. Additionally by mentioning Nuremberg you stupid prick – it made be think about Rudenko, who I would have completely forgot about, LMAO!

    All that clownish stupidity was enough for me to not be that angry with your digusting, evil scumbag lies about the ukronazi mass murder in Odessa 10 years ago – it just shows what a permanantly cursed-in-hell disease you are.

    Bulgakov is Russian. Kiev is Russian . Ukrainian is actually Russian. Ukrainians are Russians. Khokhlism is a psychiatric disease infecting some Russians. End of argument.

    Reading Bulgakov is reading Russian world, Russian culture, Russian language at it’s best. For any Kiev resident , in several of his writings you are reading about their city, their landmarks, the city’s character in his writings. This all works if the obvious that Kiev and Bulgakov and Ukraine are Russian is accepted.

    Bulgakov, in any way cannot be compared with examples as:

    Rudyard Kipling – not a single Indian is going to claim him as theirs, every Brit ( well those who can read) is going to claim and be proud that he is great Englishman. Some Indians maybe happy that he wrote things involving India, but nothing more than that.

    Or Franz Liszt with Hungary – definitely not like the Kipling example, I don’t have any friends in Hungary to discuss him with, but he certainly appears to be a symbol of Hungary, though it would make things even better for Hungarians if he was ethnically Hungarian, particularly as Bartok is sh*t by comparison.

    Bulgakov is just further example that “Ukraine” is Russia and “Ukrainians” are Russians and Kiev is a Russian city. No sane person is going to say he is like the Kipling or Liszt example on what nationality he should be identified with.

    As for the embarrassing ( for Ukronazis) fact that 3 leaders consecutively of KGB were UKRAINIANS – Chebrikov, Semichastny, Fedorchuk:

    All born in Ukraine- unlike you
    All lived and worked in Ukraine…..unlike you
    All spoke Ukraininan (that includes the other Ukrainians like Brezhnev and Khrushchev)…..unlike you
    All were effected by Soviet-created “Ukrainianisation” …..unlike you
    All listed and identified themselves as Ukrainian on passport….unlike you
    All served Ukraine…..unlike you

    Now, as only recently I wrote about how much of the current khokhol leadership is entirely non-Ukrop – all Russians and Jews, or the fact the “patriarch” of wakjob khokhol nationalism is……ethnic Russian Dmitry Dontsov…….or the vast numbers of historical Galician agitators who are either 100% of half-Polish – your idiocy to claim these 3 Ukrainian leaders of KGB as Russian is as demented as it is dishonest.

    As for their ethnicity- Ukrop ethnicity is fake anyway, and everything is so intermixed under one Russian culture , so many from mixed villages where could russianise or khokholise their name independent of if Russian or malorossiyan….that its beyond braindead to try and hide from the inconvenient fact as you do.Fedorchuk is obvious, Chebrikov – I have zero idea about the root of that name, could possibly be something encountered more the further west of Russian world into 404 you go. Semichastny – old Russian – could easily be any of Russia/Belarus/404 origin – though very likely 404. Either way- all Ukrainians.

    Just to repeat and increase my list from before, Ukronazis of their most populated age group now , have grown up with in the 1980’s Ukrainians in all these high power positions leading USSR at the same time:

    Leader of USSR, Heads of KGB, Defence Minister, Interior Minister, Chief Prosecutor, Head of Mosfilm, Head of Space Program (Glushko), Chief Serial murderer (Chikatilo), Admiral of Navy, Marshall of VVS ( now VKS) ,Ivashustin – Head of GRU, Manager of USSR football team, President of Academy of Sciences and about a million other high power positions.

    They have grown up with that – and partially explains the parasitism and self-entitlement that has helped make it the most failed of post-Soviet states.
    That’s all without considering the numerous , Soviet design Bureaus based in 404 and the very sizeable infrastructure built in late 1970’s, 1980s.

    USSR was more Ukrainian-controlled than than the semibankirschina was Jewish. Current Israeli leadership is probably more ethnically Ukrainian than the actual Ukrop leadership……..which is ironic because Ukrop leadership is almost as Jewish as the Israeli government, LMAO.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    Bulgakov is Russian. Kiev is Russian . Ukrainian is actually Russian. Ukrainians are Russians.
     
    So you claim that "Ukrainians" are also Russians.

    But you stated that KGB chief Semichastny was a Ukrainian.

    He was born in Ukraine to Russian parents who came to Ukraine from Tula.

    So if he was a Ukrainian, then by your logic so was Mikhail Bulgakov who was born in Kiev to a Russian family.

    So once again answer the question: if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?

    Don't weasel yourself out of it by claiming Ukrainians are Russians. Just answer the question directly. Either both are Russians or both are Ukrainians. Be consistent in your stupidity.

    Reading Bulgakov is reading Russian world, Russian culture, Russian language at it’s best.
     
    I enjoy his creation Sharikov. Sharikov is a perfect representation of Soviet Man -people like you.

    Chebrikov, Semichastny, Fedorchuk
     
    So, to review:

    Unless Bulgakov is a Ukrainian (he is not), then only one of those three, Fedorchuk, is a Ukrainian.

    Chebrikov is a Russian surname and he was born in Yekaterynoslav in 1923. At that time, the population of that city was only about 30% Ukrainian. It was mostly Russians and Jews.

    Semichastny's parents moved to Ukraine from Tula, which borders Moscow province, in Russia.

    You have demonstrated that you have no idea who is a Russian or who is a Ukrainian. No need to address the rest of your nonsense.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  979. @Beckow
    @songbird


    ...Trump was playing 4D chess again
     
    He has good instincts, I am not sure he has thought it through. The reality is that London-Paris-Brussels are not what they used to be and they are visibly non-European. Even very liberal people bemoan it in private - many progressive politicians say it but never admit it was their policies that led to it.

    Great leaders always have luck on their side. But maybe what we call luck is the intuitive ability to see things as they are and the courage to say it. Trump seems to have both - he is in touch with the zeitgeist.

    One reason the unhinged Dems are trying the over-the-top lawfare against Trump is to send a subliminal message that "Trump is now a loser", that his luck has run out. It is not working - it only makes him more sympathetic to people who had hard lives and feel slighted by the system.

    This is truly a clown-show for the ages...:)

    Replies: @songbird, @AnonfromTN

    I am sorry to disappoint you, but Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes, while pressing US problems of border security and crumbling infrastructure are ignored. His only advantages are that he is not demented, like Biden, and not mad, like libtards.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    Trump...only advantages are that he is not demented, like Biden, and not mad, like libtards.
     
    That's something. He can probably also still feed himself.

    Life is a game of alternatives, most are bad and Trump is a serial betrayer with no core beliefs. But he likes the joy-de-vivre...

    If the Bidenites stick around the future of the world is bleak. I would like to keep the planet going, some of this stuff is a lot of fun...

    , @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes
     
    I don't think one can characterize Taiwan and the Indo-Pacific US allies as criminal regimes.

    I don't think the US should meddle in that part of the world either, much less by increasing its already out of control debt, but China does have pretty clear expansionist designs in its immediate neighborhood. The problem though is that a clearly confrontational stance by the US is more likely to cement those designs than to stop them. That's exactly what happened in Ukraine. The idea that the US can continue to be the policeman of the world forever is senseless. It can't. It's just not strong enough, it doesn't have enough knowledge or control over the multiple conflicts that affect different parts of the world and it's not even in the interests of the citizens of the US to be involved in so many foreign disputes.

    As for Ukraine, it's pointless to make any prediction, at least until Trump chooses his VP, but if I absolutely had to place a bet, I think I'd go for him ending up increasing the aid to Ukraine if he comes to power. He definitely gave the go-ahead to Johnson but I don't think he was the architect of the pause in the aid for several months. I clearly see in my state how there is an organic movement among Republicans against the Ukraine aid. It's actually in the program of several anti-incumbent primary candidates and I suspect this movement is even stronger in other, more MAGA states. A majority of Republicans in the House voted against the Ukraine aid bill, probably aware of these undercurrents, even though they knew it had Trump's approval.

    Talking about VPs, I understand songbird's reasons to resent an even bigger influence of Indians in the Anglosphere but if he were to choose Vivek or Tulsi, he'd get my vote. However, I don't think that would be an intelligent move. He needs someone who will help him mobilize the RINO voters in November, or at least not distance them even more. He'll probably choose that route and put another neocon in the White House. As we saw in his previous administration, certain things are preordained and cannot be touched, no matter what people think they are voting for.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN, @Matra

  980. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    It seems that Gazprom is strictly involved in the production of natural gas, whereas I thought that it also was also involved in oil production too. The story is however similar for oil production companies like Lukoil and Rosneft:


    Mykhailo Gonchar, the president of the Centre for Global Studies "Strategy XXI" group, previously told Newsweek that analysis found the average daily oil refining capacity in Rosneft had slumped by a fifth (19 percent) compared with January...In the first three days of April, Russian refiners produced an average of 5.25 million barrels a day, significantly lower than the 5.78 million barrels of crude processed in the first days of April a year ago, according to an assessment by Bloomberg...The ineffectiveness of Western sanctions against Russia in the sector of oil and oil products forces Ukraine to strike at Russian oil refining,"
     
    https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-attacks-cripple-russian-oil-exports-1890377

    Replies: @QCIC

    I agree with your general point that the West and Ukraine have been working to reduce Russia’s ability to produce and sell natural gas and petroleum products. Understanding the details based on PR from all sides is an imperfect process.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...the West and Ukraine have been working to reduce Russia’s ability to produce and sell natural gas and petroleum products.
     
    Let's say they succeed or Russia decides to stop exporting energy. Western economies would go into a deep crisis and inflation up. There is not enough spare capacity to replace Russia's energy - even Saudis don't have it and are in no mood to help the West (see Gaza).

    It would have no impact on the war. Russia has the weapons, soldiers, logistics. This is another slowly unwinding neo-con fiasco...but they thrive on failures.

  981. QCIC says:

    Drone wars: A monkey can fire a shoulder launched missile, but this is probably a bad idea.

    I occasionally discuss technical aspects of Russian air defense against drones such as might be used for defending a refinery, as an example. Focussing on the technical aspects I have left out mention of a critical aspect which probably makes it difficult or impossible for Russia to thoroughly defend against these somewhat random pinprick attacks. This aspect is manpower.

    Russia has lots of mobile cannons and missiles which can be used to defend against drones, along with shoulder launched missiles (MANPADS). Naturally, many of these systems are potent enough to accidentally shoot down airliners or cause friendly fire damage to the target being protected. This is obvious, but the calibre of manpower needed to be responsible for this weaponry seems fairly high. Some of the hardware is old and possibly in need of updating, but at the moment I suspect Russian homeland defense against drones is limited by manpower. In the long run this will reverse as hardened vets return to military academies to train the next group of recruits and volunteers with full combat seriousness.

    So what they really need is a small weapon system which can take out a drone but not much else and could therefore me entrusted to less qualified soldiers. It is surprising they have enough political discipline to ride this out without deciding to crush the city of Kiev like a bug. I know they don’t want to do this, but having random attacks across the country must be intolerable for almost everyone in the military.

  982. Just two day ago (comment #790) I mentioned Kent State massacre in 1970 saying that we are not there yet, the regime is not at the point of shooting anti-genocide protesters. How wrong I was! Recent firing of live ammo by NYPD on Columbia campus shows that the regime is willing to commit murder to defend mass murderers it supports. We are there already. Democracy and freedom of speech, no doubt.

    But not everything is doom and gloom. Brown and Northwestern university authorities came to agreements with protesters to avoid escalation. Police forces in Washington, DC, and Phoenix, AZ, refused to suppress protesters despite the calls by the authorities of Georgetown and Arizona State Universities, respectively. Apparently, the authorities of some universities have sense and some police forces have decency.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Get a grip.

    That was Barney Fife and an accidental discharge. Unless BBC is making stuff up.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68947267

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

  983. QCIC says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    The men who control the nukes also have a legal structure to take complete control of the country. Continuity of Government. It was originally in case of nuclear war specifically, but gradually between Iran_Contra in the 1980's and Sept 2001 it was expanded to apply to any sufficient national emergency. If things get out of hand the North American theater commander is dictator of the United States.

    About all he has to do is say so and the military falls right in line like queued up dominoes. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumseld ran all the committees who did this dirty work. This is the main reason they were on top of the ladder for 25 freaking years.

    Gregory M. Guillot
    this tool:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Gen_Gregory_M._Guillot_%282%29.jpg/440px-Gen_Gregory_M._Guillot_%282%29.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC

    Similar legal structures must exist allowing the military to control the country from the perspective of biological weapons and warfare. I assume this is the elephant in the room for both COVID and the mRNA shots. These power structures probably overlap with those for nuclear warfare control as well as those for non-weaponized public health crises. I’m sure everyone handling these unprecedented powers is competent, wise, has integrity and keeps our best interests in mind at all times.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    I’m sure everyone handling these unprecedented powers is competent, wise, has integrity and keeps our best interests in mind at all times.
     
    Highest level sarcasm. Bravo!
  984. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Similar legal structures must exist allowing the military to control the country from the perspective of biological weapons and warfare. I assume this is the elephant in the room for both COVID and the mRNA shots. These power structures probably overlap with those for nuclear warfare control as well as those for non-weaponized public health crises. I'm sure everyone handling these unprecedented powers is competent, wise, has integrity and keeps our best interests in mind at all times.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I’m sure everyone handling these unprecedented powers is competent, wise, has integrity and keeps our best interests in mind at all times.

    Highest level sarcasm. Bravo!

  985. @AnonfromTN
    Just two day ago (comment #790) I mentioned Kent State massacre in 1970 saying that we are not there yet, the regime is not at the point of shooting anti-genocide protesters. How wrong I was! Recent firing of live ammo by NYPD on Columbia campus shows that the regime is willing to commit murder to defend mass murderers it supports. We are there already. Democracy and freedom of speech, no doubt.

    But not everything is doom and gloom. Brown and Northwestern university authorities came to agreements with protesters to avoid escalation. Police forces in Washington, DC, and Phoenix, AZ, refused to suppress protesters despite the calls by the authorities of Georgetown and Arizona State Universities, respectively. Apparently, the authorities of some universities have sense and some police forces have decency.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Get a grip.

    That was Barney Fife and an accidental discharge. Unless BBC is making stuff up.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68947267

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Unless BBC is making stuff up.
     
    Won’t for the first time.
    , @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    In Barney's honor I offer the following. He is the one in the peaked cap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQcGH2gILUo
    Peaches offers some good advice, not just FTPA, but "Stay in school, 'cuz it's the best!"

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  986. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Get a grip.

    That was Barney Fife and an accidental discharge. Unless BBC is making stuff up.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68947267

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    Unless BBC is making stuff up.

    Won’t for the first time.

  987. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    I am sure Dugin knows all these theories, so he was kind of signalling, organizing her funeral in the highest building of Moscow.
    And BTW what was her own confession?!

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Maybe she disappointed her father as she dabbled in his field. Philosophy is kind of artistic field, and children of artists as a rule are worse than their parents in their field.

    The fact that she has chosen as her pseudonim “Platonova”, allegedly to honour Plato, in the Russian context does not prove her great intelligence (and the sense of irony), since of course “Platonova” sounds like a rhyme to “Platonov”, a rather non-Platonic character of the play by Czechov, who in no way could be an Euroasianist hero.

    Interestingly, Dugin’s son doesn’t have much in common with Eurasianism.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective

    FYI, Andrei Platonov (1889-1951) is the name of Russian twentieth century novelist (the best known of his novels are probably Chevengur and The Foundation Pit) who considered himself a communist but strongly disapproved of Stalinist practices. I have no idea whether that was the reason for her choice of pseudonym.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  988. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    I am sorry to disappoint you, but Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes, while pressing US problems of border security and crumbling infrastructure are ignored. His only advantages are that he is not demented, like Biden, and not mad, like libtards.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel

    Trump…only advantages are that he is not demented, like Biden, and not mad, like libtards.

    That’s something. He can probably also still feed himself.

    Life is a game of alternatives, most are bad and Trump is a serial betrayer with no core beliefs. But he likes the joy-de-vivre…

    If the Bidenites stick around the future of the world is bleak. I would like to keep the planet going, some of this stuff is a lot of fun…

  989. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Maybe she disappointed her father as she dabbled in his field. Philosophy is kind of artistic field, and children of artists as a rule are worse than their parents in their field.

    The fact that she has chosen as her pseudonim "Platonova", allegedly to honour Plato, in the Russian context does not prove her great intelligence (and the sense of irony), since of course "Platonova" sounds like a rhyme to "Platonov", a rather non-Platonic character of the play by Czechov, who in no way could be an Euroasianist hero.

    Interestingly, Dugin's son doesn't have much in common with Eurasianism.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    FYI, Andrei Platonov (1889-1951) is the name of Russian twentieth century novelist (the best known of his novels are probably Chevengur and The Foundation Pit) who considered himself a communist but strongly disapproved of Stalinist practices. I have no idea whether that was the reason for her choice of pseudonym.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    Yes, I know but I heard he is not very well known in Russia due to being memory-holed in Soviet times. However, I have read his "Foundation Pit" in Polish translation and found it to be a rare example of Kafkaesque spirit in the Russian literature.

    Overall, the Russian literature is great at existentialism (which, for example, Polish literature is not so great at) - Platonov, Oblomov, Raskolnikov or Wierchowienski or even character of Lermontov "Hero of our time" are the great examples of men immersed in ennui.

    As for Dugina, Wikipedia says that she wanted to honour Plato with her pseudonym.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  990. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Get a grip.

    That was Barney Fife and an accidental discharge. Unless BBC is making stuff up.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68947267

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    In Barney’s honor I offer the following. He is the one in the peaked cap.

    [MORE]

    Peaches offers some good advice, not just FTPA, but “Stay in school, ‘cuz it’s the best!”

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    Has Ron Unz seen this? It might be just the material to awaken him from his dogmatic slumber.

  991. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective

    FYI, Andrei Platonov (1889-1951) is the name of Russian twentieth century novelist (the best known of his novels are probably Chevengur and The Foundation Pit) who considered himself a communist but strongly disapproved of Stalinist practices. I have no idea whether that was the reason for her choice of pseudonym.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Yes, I know but I heard he is not very well known in Russia due to being memory-holed in Soviet times. However, I have read his “Foundation Pit” in Polish translation and found it to be a rare example of Kafkaesque spirit in the Russian literature.

    Overall, the Russian literature is great at existentialism (which, for example, Polish literature is not so great at) – Platonov, Oblomov, Raskolnikov or Wierchowienski or even character of Lermontov “Hero of our time” are the great examples of men immersed in ennui.

    As for Dugina, Wikipedia says that she wanted to honour Plato with her pseudonym.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    I heard he is not very well known in Russia due to being memory-holed in Soviet times.
     
    In late Soviet Union (1980s) his novels were published and were freely available. That’s when I read them for the first time. I don’t know how good was the translation: he had very specific language that is as hard to translate as poetry. Then again, Soviet translations of books as challenging as Joyce’s Ulysses or Faulkner’s novels into Russian were excellent (I know because I read them in English, as well).

    Wikipedia says that she wanted to honour Plato with her pseudonym.
     
    That does not mean anything. Wiki is full of blatant lies about everything of any political significance, including even ancient history. It’s pieces about politically neutral subjects (chemistry, physics, molecular biology) can be true. At least many were true ~7 years ago, when I read their lies about Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics. Naturally, I did not go to Wiki since then.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  992. Trolling is spreading.

    Boris Rozhin (colonelcassad) posted numerous videos of brutal suppression and arrests of US students protesting genocide in Gaza under the heading “Democracy lessons in American universities”.

    Iran and Houthis offered students expelled for these protests free education in Tehran and Sanaa, respectively.

  993. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I agree with your general point that the West and Ukraine have been working to reduce Russia's ability to produce and sell natural gas and petroleum products. Understanding the details based on PR from all sides is an imperfect process.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …the West and Ukraine have been working to reduce Russia’s ability to produce and sell natural gas and petroleum products.

    Let’s say they succeed or Russia decides to stop exporting energy. Western economies would go into a deep crisis and inflation up. There is not enough spare capacity to replace Russia’s energy – even Saudis don’t have it and are in no mood to help the West (see Gaza).

    It would have no impact on the war. Russia has the weapons, soldiers, logistics. This is another slowly unwinding neo-con fiasco…but they thrive on failures.

    • Agree: QCIC
  994. Mikel says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    I am sorry to disappoint you, but Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes, while pressing US problems of border security and crumbling infrastructure are ignored. His only advantages are that he is not demented, like Biden, and not mad, like libtards.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel

    Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes

    I don’t think one can characterize Taiwan and the Indo-Pacific US allies as criminal regimes.

    I don’t think the US should meddle in that part of the world either, much less by increasing its already out of control debt, but China does have pretty clear expansionist designs in its immediate neighborhood. The problem though is that a clearly confrontational stance by the US is more likely to cement those designs than to stop them. That’s exactly what happened in Ukraine. The idea that the US can continue to be the policeman of the world forever is senseless. It can’t. It’s just not strong enough, it doesn’t have enough knowledge or control over the multiple conflicts that affect different parts of the world and it’s not even in the interests of the citizens of the US to be involved in so many foreign disputes.

    As for Ukraine, it’s pointless to make any prediction, at least until Trump chooses his VP, but if I absolutely had to place a bet, I think I’d go for him ending up increasing the aid to Ukraine if he comes to power. He definitely gave the go-ahead to Johnson but I don’t think he was the architect of the pause in the aid for several months. I clearly see in my state how there is an organic movement among Republicans against the Ukraine aid. It’s actually in the program of several anti-incumbent primary candidates and I suspect this movement is even stronger in other, more MAGA states. A majority of Republicans in the House voted against the Ukraine aid bill, probably aware of these undercurrents, even though they knew it had Trump’s approval.

    Talking about VPs, I understand songbird’s reasons to resent an even bigger influence of Indians in the Anglosphere but if he were to choose Vivek or Tulsi, he’d get my vote. However, I don’t think that would be an intelligent move. He needs someone who will help him mobilize the RINO voters in November, or at least not distance them even more. He’ll probably choose that route and put another neocon in the White House. As we saw in his previous administration, certain things are preordained and cannot be touched, no matter what people think they are voting for.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel

    Here is an easy question for you... Imagine you are standing on railroad tracks and there is a train coming. Do you:

    -A- Voluntarily stay on the tracks leading to your inevitable demise?
    -B- Show common sense by moving?

    I hope you would choose B.
    ____

    Trump was stuck in a similar position to B. DNC+RINO were passing the cash to Ukraine regardless of what he did.

    The real decision was to save Johnson or force him from office. Forcing him from office would be an inevitable disaster, probably ending Trump's Presidential campaign: (1)


    Former President Trump muddied the waters with his support of Johnson, “Trump says he thinks Speaker Mike Johnson is ‘doing a very good job’ amid ouster threat from Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

    I doubt this is some form of 5D chess from Trump; it is only the simple reality that if Johnson is ousted and Democrats take control of the House, Trump’s November election is over.

    Remember the U.S. Supreme Court decision on “insurrection” claimed by the Colorado Supreme Court? The March 4 decision stated:


    The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made. The relevant provision is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course to judicial review, to pass “appropriate legislation” to “enforce” the Fourteenth Amendment.
     
    In other words, Congress, by a simple majority, can pass a bill claiming that Trump is disqualified from the election due to being an “insurrectionist.” That would be the first order of business by a Democrat-controlled House. The Senate would pass the House bill and President Biden would sign it.

    If you don’t believe the Democrats would try to disqualify Trump in this manner, a bill introduced by Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin is already teed up.

    Per Axios:


    Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment.

    “We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court’s decision,” Raskin said.

    Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an “insurrection” and that those involved “engaged in insurrection.”

     

    The SCOTUS decision mentioned, “Subject of course to judicial review.” Would that stop such a scheme? Why would SCOTUS block such an act of Congress that they green-lighted in their recent decision?

    This would explain Trump supporting Johnson. Does Rep. MTG realize how this could play out? Is she acting out of principle, or is this a backhanded way of undermining Trump? This is where the 5D chess machinations come in. Washington, D.C., is indeed a swamp.
     
    If the Democrats obtain the Speaker's chair there is a 100% chance they have the votes.

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race? If you were in Trump's position, what would you have done?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/04/how_do_you_solve_a_problem_like_mike_johnson.html

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    I don’t think one can characterize Taiwan and the Indo-Pacific US allies as criminal regimes.
     
    To the best of my knowledge, Taiwan regime is not criminal. But the bulk of that package went to Ukraine and Israel, both ruled by criminal regimes.

    I agree that even Trump is better than the current cabal, but that does not mean that he is good. Say, even a German shepherd is smarter than Biden, but this does not mean that it is highly intelligent.

    As we saw in his previous administration, certain things are preordained and cannot be touched, no matter what people think they are voting for.
     
    That’s a sure sign of democracy, isn’t it?

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @Matra
    @Mikel

    Trump needs to win Ohio - no GOP candidate has ever won without it and it's a sizeable state. Also, if he cares even a little bit 'America First' on immigration, trade, & foreign policy he'll choose someone young who is on board with that agenda in the future rather than someone who will revert to Ned Flanders conservatardism. So JD Vance would seem to be a good choice. It's also good that he's an Ivy Leaguer as one of the main problems with MAGA is that it hasn't attracted enough intelligent people with elite connections.

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

  995. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    In Barney's honor I offer the following. He is the one in the peaked cap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQcGH2gILUo
    Peaches offers some good advice, not just FTPA, but "Stay in school, 'cuz it's the best!"

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Has Ron Unz seen this? It might be just the material to awaken him from his dogmatic slumber.

  996. A123 says: • Website
    @QCIC
    @A123

    In Hack's original post during this exchange, I think he unintentionally conflated Russian natural gas production (sales) with gasoline refinery production. This may have added some subtle confusion to the lively dialog which followed.

    +++

    Is any Russian gas still transiting through Ukraine?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    Is any Russian gas still transiting through Ukraine?

    My understanding is both gas and oil are flowing through Ukraine. And, Moscow is paying Kiev the agreed transit fees. Yet more evidence that this is a very limited SMO. An all out war would have been much harder on such infrastructure.

    IIRC, the contracts need to be renewed/extended in the next 12-18 months. Kiev is playing a dangerous card trying to use energy as a weapon. If they do not extend the deals, European buyers will be motivated to apply pressure. Imagine Russian military flights out of Hungarian airfields towards Lviv…

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: Gerard1234
    • Thanks: QCIC
  997. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    This is what happens when Japanese Bro's sow Anti Chinese sentiment, it boomerangs on them!

    https://twitter.com/RihitoPhysicist/status/1785684551987241109

    Replies: @QCIC, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Actually, most of the anti-Chinese propaganda is spread by self-hating Chinese 支黑, not Japanese.

    Same as when you Ivans and Pavels diss each other in front of Westerners, you make each other all look worse.

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    https://youtu.be/0sGbPCkjPC8?si=P-NQY7BbEKjhkULY


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/2018-10-31_15_25_21_The_west_side_of_the_Marine_Corps_War_Memorial_in_Arlington_County%2C_Virginia.jpg/1200px-2018-10-31_15_25_21_The_west_side_of_the_Marine_Corps_War_Memorial_in_Arlington_County%2C_Virginia.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  998. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    Yes, I know but I heard he is not very well known in Russia due to being memory-holed in Soviet times. However, I have read his "Foundation Pit" in Polish translation and found it to be a rare example of Kafkaesque spirit in the Russian literature.

    Overall, the Russian literature is great at existentialism (which, for example, Polish literature is not so great at) - Platonov, Oblomov, Raskolnikov or Wierchowienski or even character of Lermontov "Hero of our time" are the great examples of men immersed in ennui.

    As for Dugina, Wikipedia says that she wanted to honour Plato with her pseudonym.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I heard he is not very well known in Russia due to being memory-holed in Soviet times.

    In late Soviet Union (1980s) his novels were published and were freely available. That’s when I read them for the first time. I don’t know how good was the translation: he had very specific language that is as hard to translate as poetry. Then again, Soviet translations of books as challenging as Joyce’s Ulysses or Faulkner’s novels into Russian were excellent (I know because I read them in English, as well).

    Wikipedia says that she wanted to honour Plato with her pseudonym.

    That does not mean anything. Wiki is full of blatant lies about everything of any political significance, including even ancient history. It’s pieces about politically neutral subjects (chemistry, physics, molecular biology) can be true. At least many were true ~7 years ago, when I read their lies about Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics. Naturally, I did not go to Wiki since then.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    I don’t know how good was the translation: he had very specific language that is as hard to translate as poetry.
     
    Well, the language of translation was kind of sparse, tense, some metaphors; translation was made from allegedly the 2000 original version. The world is gloomy, fatalistic, self-contained - a bit like the world in the later works of Kafka.

    https://www.znak.com.pl/ksiazka/dol-andriej-platonow-80301

    Adam Pomorski sięgnął do uważanej za najwiarygodniejszą wersji powieści wydanej przez Rosyjską Akademię Nauk w 2000 roku.

    The book was presented as the great work on totalitarism, which for me wasn't its main subject (rather the general absurd of living and believing in Soviet socialism with some twists a la magical realism). It was neither Orwell's "1984" or Zamiatin "We".

    It was good, but I wouldn't read it second time; in some way its socialist world was so alien to me that I read it as quasi-magical absurdist tragicomedy sometimes.

    Some readers say it is badly translated, though. The previous translation (by Andrzej Drawicz)from samizdat was allegedly better.
    https://lubimyczytac.pl/ksiazka/4268488/dol

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  999. Maybe a stupid question, but was Russian literature translated into Ukrainian and vice versa?
    For example, Dostoyevsky, who allegedly was partly of Belorussian origin, but has often idiosyncratic language (there is now the second Polish translation of his books being made), was he ever translated into Ukrainian or Belorussian ?
    I remember before WWII Soviet Union had this policy of encouraging national languages.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Maybe a stupid question, but was Russian literature translated into Ukrainian and vice versa?
     
    Yes, Russian literature was translated into Ukrainian, and Ukrainian literature was translated into Russian. I never read any of those translations, as I read both in the original language, so I don’t know how good were those translations.

    In general, in Soviet times low quality translations were not allowed, but I can judge for myself only translations from English, as I read the originals when in the US. I know nothing about Belorussian, as I don’t speak or read it. When I was in Minsk in the 1980s, the only things that spoke Belorussian were radio and TV. I would expect that translated books in Belorussian were printed, regardless of low demand (based on my experience with books in Ukrainian).

    BTW, aesthetically speaking, Belorussian sounds harsh, like Serbian or Bulgarian, whereas Ukrainian is very melodious.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Dostoyevsky, who allegedly was partly of Belorussian origin
     
    Dostoyevsky's paternal grandfather, Andriy Dostoyevsky, was a Greek Catholic (Uniate) priest of gentry background from western Ukraine. The Dostoyevsky family had moved to western Ukraine from Belarus in the 17th century. When Poland was partitioned, they were on the Russian side of the border. If they had moved further west in Ukraine from Belarus, the Dostoyevsky family would likely have simply been Galician Ukrainians with distant Belarusian origins. Such families exist. And the author himself would never have been born, because his father moved from Ukraine to Moscow and in Russia he married the author's mother.
  1000. A123 says: • Website
    @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes
     
    I don't think one can characterize Taiwan and the Indo-Pacific US allies as criminal regimes.

    I don't think the US should meddle in that part of the world either, much less by increasing its already out of control debt, but China does have pretty clear expansionist designs in its immediate neighborhood. The problem though is that a clearly confrontational stance by the US is more likely to cement those designs than to stop them. That's exactly what happened in Ukraine. The idea that the US can continue to be the policeman of the world forever is senseless. It can't. It's just not strong enough, it doesn't have enough knowledge or control over the multiple conflicts that affect different parts of the world and it's not even in the interests of the citizens of the US to be involved in so many foreign disputes.

    As for Ukraine, it's pointless to make any prediction, at least until Trump chooses his VP, but if I absolutely had to place a bet, I think I'd go for him ending up increasing the aid to Ukraine if he comes to power. He definitely gave the go-ahead to Johnson but I don't think he was the architect of the pause in the aid for several months. I clearly see in my state how there is an organic movement among Republicans against the Ukraine aid. It's actually in the program of several anti-incumbent primary candidates and I suspect this movement is even stronger in other, more MAGA states. A majority of Republicans in the House voted against the Ukraine aid bill, probably aware of these undercurrents, even though they knew it had Trump's approval.

    Talking about VPs, I understand songbird's reasons to resent an even bigger influence of Indians in the Anglosphere but if he were to choose Vivek or Tulsi, he'd get my vote. However, I don't think that would be an intelligent move. He needs someone who will help him mobilize the RINO voters in November, or at least not distance them even more. He'll probably choose that route and put another neocon in the White House. As we saw in his previous administration, certain things are preordained and cannot be touched, no matter what people think they are voting for.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN, @Matra

    Here is an easy question for you… Imagine you are standing on railroad tracks and there is a train coming. Do you:

    -A- Voluntarily stay on the tracks leading to your inevitable demise?
    -B- Show common sense by moving?

    I hope you would choose B.
    ____

    Trump was stuck in a similar position to B. DNC+RINO were passing the cash to Ukraine regardless of what he did.

    The real decision was to save Johnson or force him from office. Forcing him from office would be an inevitable disaster, probably ending Trump’s Presidential campaign: (1)

    Former President Trump muddied the waters with his support of Johnson, “Trump says he thinks Speaker Mike Johnson is ‘doing a very good job’ amid ouster threat from Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

    I doubt this is some form of 5D chess from Trump; it is only the simple reality that if Johnson is ousted and Democrats take control of the House, Trump’s November election is over.

    Remember the U.S. Supreme Court decision on “insurrection” claimed by the Colorado Supreme Court? The March 4 decision stated:

    The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made. The relevant provision is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course to judicial review, to pass “appropriate legislation” to “enforce” the Fourteenth Amendment.

    In other words, Congress, by a simple majority, can pass a bill claiming that Trump is disqualified from the election due to being an “insurrectionist.” That would be the first order of business by a Democrat-controlled House. The Senate would pass the House bill and President Biden would sign it.

    If you don’t believe the Democrats would try to disqualify Trump in this manner, a bill introduced by Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin is already teed up.

    Per Axios:

    Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment.

    “We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court’s decision,” Raskin said.

    Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an “insurrection” and that those involved “engaged in insurrection.”

    The SCOTUS decision mentioned, “Subject of course to judicial review.” Would that stop such a scheme? Why would SCOTUS block such an act of Congress that they green-lighted in their recent decision?

    This would explain Trump supporting Johnson. Does Rep. MTG realize how this could play out? Is she acting out of principle, or is this a backhanded way of undermining Trump? This is where the 5D chess machinations come in. Washington, D.C., is indeed a swamp.

    If the Democrats obtain the Speaker’s chair there is a 100% chance they have the votes.

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race? If you were in Trump’s position, what would you have done?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/04/how_do_you_solve_a_problem_like_mike_johnson.html

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @A123


    If you were in Trump’s position, what would you have done?
     
    For starters, convey the message that he's going to lose his job if he doesn't defund the DoJ, the FBI and all the agencies that are engaged in lawfare against him. Behave like the Democrats would, no more no less, for his own personal sake. We've had hearings and investigative committees for years now and they don't lead anywhere. Start using the power of the purse. The fact that none of that is happening and the Dems continue getting everything they want tells us what to expect realistically from a second Trump term.

    I wouldn't trust MTG to have thought her move through but I do trust Massie. If it all results in the shame of Johnson clinging to his role as Speaker with Dem votes, it could be a good development. He'll likely get ousted in November.

    Replies: @A123

  1001. @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes
     
    I don't think one can characterize Taiwan and the Indo-Pacific US allies as criminal regimes.

    I don't think the US should meddle in that part of the world either, much less by increasing its already out of control debt, but China does have pretty clear expansionist designs in its immediate neighborhood. The problem though is that a clearly confrontational stance by the US is more likely to cement those designs than to stop them. That's exactly what happened in Ukraine. The idea that the US can continue to be the policeman of the world forever is senseless. It can't. It's just not strong enough, it doesn't have enough knowledge or control over the multiple conflicts that affect different parts of the world and it's not even in the interests of the citizens of the US to be involved in so many foreign disputes.

    As for Ukraine, it's pointless to make any prediction, at least until Trump chooses his VP, but if I absolutely had to place a bet, I think I'd go for him ending up increasing the aid to Ukraine if he comes to power. He definitely gave the go-ahead to Johnson but I don't think he was the architect of the pause in the aid for several months. I clearly see in my state how there is an organic movement among Republicans against the Ukraine aid. It's actually in the program of several anti-incumbent primary candidates and I suspect this movement is even stronger in other, more MAGA states. A majority of Republicans in the House voted against the Ukraine aid bill, probably aware of these undercurrents, even though they knew it had Trump's approval.

    Talking about VPs, I understand songbird's reasons to resent an even bigger influence of Indians in the Anglosphere but if he were to choose Vivek or Tulsi, he'd get my vote. However, I don't think that would be an intelligent move. He needs someone who will help him mobilize the RINO voters in November, or at least not distance them even more. He'll probably choose that route and put another neocon in the White House. As we saw in his previous administration, certain things are preordained and cannot be touched, no matter what people think they are voting for.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN, @Matra

    I don’t think one can characterize Taiwan and the Indo-Pacific US allies as criminal regimes.

    To the best of my knowledge, Taiwan regime is not criminal. But the bulk of that package went to Ukraine and Israel, both ruled by criminal regimes.

    I agree that even Trump is better than the current cabal, but that does not mean that he is good. Say, even a German shepherd is smarter than Biden, but this does not mean that it is highly intelligent.

    As we saw in his previous administration, certain things are preordained and cannot be touched, no matter what people think they are voting for.

    That’s a sure sign of democracy, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    That’s a sure sign of democracy, isn’t it?
     
    I hope you don't think that Russian voters are more empowered than Western ones lol.

    It used to be a little better in the past. At least wrt censorship and elite control of ideas. You must have noticed when you moved to the West decades ago.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  1002. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    I heard he is not very well known in Russia due to being memory-holed in Soviet times.
     
    In late Soviet Union (1980s) his novels were published and were freely available. That’s when I read them for the first time. I don’t know how good was the translation: he had very specific language that is as hard to translate as poetry. Then again, Soviet translations of books as challenging as Joyce’s Ulysses or Faulkner’s novels into Russian were excellent (I know because I read them in English, as well).

    Wikipedia says that she wanted to honour Plato with her pseudonym.
     
    That does not mean anything. Wiki is full of blatant lies about everything of any political significance, including even ancient history. It’s pieces about politically neutral subjects (chemistry, physics, molecular biology) can be true. At least many were true ~7 years ago, when I read their lies about Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics. Naturally, I did not go to Wiki since then.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    I don’t know how good was the translation: he had very specific language that is as hard to translate as poetry.

    Well, the language of translation was kind of sparse, tense, some metaphors; translation was made from allegedly the 2000 original version. The world is gloomy, fatalistic, self-contained – a bit like the world in the later works of Kafka.

    https://www.znak.com.pl/ksiazka/dol-andriej-platonow-80301

    Adam Pomorski sięgnął do uważanej za najwiarygodniejszą wersji powieści wydanej przez Rosyjską Akademię Nauk w 2000 roku.

    The book was presented as the great work on totalitarism, which for me wasn’t its main subject (rather the general absurd of living and believing in Soviet socialism with some twists a la magical realism). It was neither Orwell’s “1984” or Zamiatin “We”.

    It was good, but I wouldn’t read it second time; in some way its socialist world was so alien to me that I read it as quasi-magical absurdist tragicomedy sometimes.

    Some readers say it is badly translated, though. The previous translation (by Andrzej Drawicz)from samizdat was allegedly better.
    https://lubimyczytac.pl/ksiazka/4268488/dol

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Well, the language of translation was kind of sparse, tense, some metaphors;
     
    The original had sparse and tense language, with some unusual word usage: grammatically correct, but nobody else said or wrote it that way. It would be impossible for me to translate it into English and preserve that specific flavor (you feel it by subconsciously comparing to other Russian literature). The world he described is indeed Kafkaesque, seemingly orderly, but grotesquely nonsensical. I like The Foundation Pit better than Chevengur, maybe because it conveys the same message but is much shorter.

    My Polish is minimal, maybe 200 words and phrases. It’s woefully insufficient to read real literature or appreciate finer points of translation.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  1003. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk

    On page 31 Arnold says the movement was based on library books.


    Mamleev cited 25 such sources of the occult underground - in Russian, English, and German - that he encountered in the 1950’s. Among them figure five by the founder of Anthroposophy Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925), two by the founder of Theosophy, the Russian-born Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-1891), four by the major French occultist Papus (Gérard Encausse, 1865-1916), two by the “founding father of occultism”, Eliphas Lévi (Alphonse-Louis Constant, 1810-1875), as well as works by the
    “dissident Theosophist” Édouard Schuré (1841-1929), the occultist “philosopher of mysticism” Du Prel (Karl Freiherr von Prel, 1839-1899), George Ivanovich Gurdjieff (1866-1949), Piotr Ouspensky (1878-1947), Carl Jung (1875-1961), and others.
     
    The cult of New York Times hates Anthroposophy in modern U. S. They are purportedly a bunch of anti-vaxer morons. In any case that is worth noting Steiner is number one on the list. He was murdered. Presumably by a rival cult who takes all this stuff way too seriously, but possibly by the German Nazi Party who considered all other cults mortal enemies. I haven't read Schure or Prel. I'm not seeing any proper Nihilism here.

    Binge drinking is a feature. That is definitely more Gurdjieff than Steiner.

    The genesis is these books were in the Soviet library and not censored and these free spirits were working with what was available. It was not a group of Anthroposophists. It was a group of guys for whom that type book was an entry point into a universe which was not as dull as the Soviet system career they were groomed for.

    Arnold says Golovin took the scene over and he was a great Nihilist.

    Have you read Morning of the Magicians? That book was regarded with great disdain by my first esoteric teachers. Pure poppycock. I finally got around to reading it 4 or 5 years ago and it is a marvelous book.

    Anyway at this point I am only half way through Arnold's masters thesis. It is entertaining as hell. As for practical applications though this stuff is gobbledygook. There is no chance Putin and cronies have read Dugin in all of his glory.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Have you read Morning of the Magicians? That book was regarded with great disdain by my first esoteric teachers. Pure poppycock. I finally got around to reading it 4 or 5 years ago and it is a marvelous book.

    Bergier was a good acquaintance of Hergé.

    🙂

  1004. Matra says:
    @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    Trump is a piece of shit. He demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt by his recent approval of a huge American aid package to criminal foreign regimes
     
    I don't think one can characterize Taiwan and the Indo-Pacific US allies as criminal regimes.

    I don't think the US should meddle in that part of the world either, much less by increasing its already out of control debt, but China does have pretty clear expansionist designs in its immediate neighborhood. The problem though is that a clearly confrontational stance by the US is more likely to cement those designs than to stop them. That's exactly what happened in Ukraine. The idea that the US can continue to be the policeman of the world forever is senseless. It can't. It's just not strong enough, it doesn't have enough knowledge or control over the multiple conflicts that affect different parts of the world and it's not even in the interests of the citizens of the US to be involved in so many foreign disputes.

    As for Ukraine, it's pointless to make any prediction, at least until Trump chooses his VP, but if I absolutely had to place a bet, I think I'd go for him ending up increasing the aid to Ukraine if he comes to power. He definitely gave the go-ahead to Johnson but I don't think he was the architect of the pause in the aid for several months. I clearly see in my state how there is an organic movement among Republicans against the Ukraine aid. It's actually in the program of several anti-incumbent primary candidates and I suspect this movement is even stronger in other, more MAGA states. A majority of Republicans in the House voted against the Ukraine aid bill, probably aware of these undercurrents, even though they knew it had Trump's approval.

    Talking about VPs, I understand songbird's reasons to resent an even bigger influence of Indians in the Anglosphere but if he were to choose Vivek or Tulsi, he'd get my vote. However, I don't think that would be an intelligent move. He needs someone who will help him mobilize the RINO voters in November, or at least not distance them even more. He'll probably choose that route and put another neocon in the White House. As we saw in his previous administration, certain things are preordained and cannot be touched, no matter what people think they are voting for.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN, @Matra

    Trump needs to win Ohio – no GOP candidate has ever won without it and it’s a sizeable state. Also, if he cares even a little bit ‘America First’ on immigration, trade, & foreign policy he’ll choose someone young who is on board with that agenda in the future rather than someone who will revert to Ned Flanders conservatardism. So JD Vance would seem to be a good choice. It’s also good that he’s an Ivy Leaguer as one of the main problems with MAGA is that it hasn’t attracted enough intelligent people with elite connections.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Matra

    Trump won Ohio comfortably in 2020 so he shouldn't have much of a problem there if current polls are to be trusted. If he loses states that he won in 2020, he has no chance anyway. Vance would be another good pick for VP but he has been too vocal about foreign aid and he's just started his career in DC so he must be deeply hated by the neocons already. Unfortunately, I don't know how Trump can win if he doesn't get a big majority of the Haley votes, the ones that Vance would do little to attract. Not that I am a very knowledgeable analyst by any stretch of the imagination but if I was advising Trump, I guess I'd ask him to pick a moderate RINO, just for November, and then pray that Trump doesn't die in office.

    , @AP
    @Matra


    Trump needs to win Ohio – no GOP candidate has ever won without it and it’s a sizeable state. Also, if he cares even a little bit ‘America First’ on immigration, trade, & foreign policy he’ll choose someone young who is on board with that agenda in the future rather than someone who will revert to Ned Flanders conservatardism. So JD Vance would seem to be a good choice.
     
    Ohio is a Red State and Trump will win it no matter whom he picks.

    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio's large Eastern European population who live in the northern parts of the state and who otherwise vote Republican. He won his election 53% to 47%.The same election in which Vance won 53% to 47%, the Republican Governor DeWine won 62% to 37%.

    Vance's predecessor, Portman, had won 58% to 37% in the previous Senate election.

    Replies: @Matra

  1005. @Another Polish Perspective
    Maybe a stupid question, but was Russian literature translated into Ukrainian and vice versa?
    For example, Dostoyevsky, who allegedly was partly of Belorussian origin, but has often idiosyncratic language (there is now the second Polish translation of his books being made), was he ever translated into Ukrainian or Belorussian ?
    I remember before WWII Soviet Union had this policy of encouraging national languages.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Maybe a stupid question, but was Russian literature translated into Ukrainian and vice versa?

    Yes, Russian literature was translated into Ukrainian, and Ukrainian literature was translated into Russian. I never read any of those translations, as I read both in the original language, so I don’t know how good were those translations.

    In general, in Soviet times low quality translations were not allowed, but I can judge for myself only translations from English, as I read the originals when in the US. I know nothing about Belorussian, as I don’t speak or read it. When I was in Minsk in the 1980s, the only things that spoke Belorussian were radio and TV. I would expect that translated books in Belorussian were printed, regardless of low demand (based on my experience with books in Ukrainian).

    BTW, aesthetically speaking, Belorussian sounds harsh, like Serbian or Bulgarian, whereas Ukrainian is very melodious.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    There was a lot wrong with the pre-1990 Central-Eastern Europe but there was no national oppression - commies were internationalists and supported national cultures. Ukies, Poles, Latvians lie to fool the gullible Westies. But the West likes to be lied to.

    Czech and Slovak languages are very close so our books were not translated, TV alternated between the languages. Our national arguments were about the Czechs subsidizing Slovakia and too many Slovaks among the top leaders - and Slovaks thinking the Czechs in Prague were assholes. All of that is true but we would be better off as a federal state. Majorities regret the split and 1/3 of people prefer pre-1989. The Western propaganda only tells half the story.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  1006. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    I don’t know how good was the translation: he had very specific language that is as hard to translate as poetry.
     
    Well, the language of translation was kind of sparse, tense, some metaphors; translation was made from allegedly the 2000 original version. The world is gloomy, fatalistic, self-contained - a bit like the world in the later works of Kafka.

    https://www.znak.com.pl/ksiazka/dol-andriej-platonow-80301

    Adam Pomorski sięgnął do uważanej za najwiarygodniejszą wersji powieści wydanej przez Rosyjską Akademię Nauk w 2000 roku.

    The book was presented as the great work on totalitarism, which for me wasn't its main subject (rather the general absurd of living and believing in Soviet socialism with some twists a la magical realism). It was neither Orwell's "1984" or Zamiatin "We".

    It was good, but I wouldn't read it second time; in some way its socialist world was so alien to me that I read it as quasi-magical absurdist tragicomedy sometimes.

    Some readers say it is badly translated, though. The previous translation (by Andrzej Drawicz)from samizdat was allegedly better.
    https://lubimyczytac.pl/ksiazka/4268488/dol

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Well, the language of translation was kind of sparse, tense, some metaphors;

    The original had sparse and tense language, with some unusual word usage: grammatically correct, but nobody else said or wrote it that way. It would be impossible for me to translate it into English and preserve that specific flavor (you feel it by subconsciously comparing to other Russian literature). The world he described is indeed Kafkaesque, seemingly orderly, but grotesquely nonsensical. I like The Foundation Pit better than Chevengur, maybe because it conveys the same message but is much shorter.

    My Polish is minimal, maybe 200 words and phrases. It’s woefully insufficient to read real literature or appreciate finer points of translation.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    Well, you tell me which translation of the title is better.
    The translator of the version I have read translated it as "Dół", which is basically any hole in ground, made by whatever (can be by man or Tunguska meteorite if you like).

    Another version rendered it as "Wykop" which is a hole in ground made specifically by digging, either by animal or man/machine. To compare, trench is "okop" (the stem of "kop" /dig is preserved).

    BTW, I did not read "Chevengur".

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  1007. BTW, aesthetically speaking, Belorussian sounds harsh, like Serbian or Bulgarian, whereas Ukrainian is very melodious.

    For a Pole from Poland proper like me, Poles both from Ukraine and Belarus speak with what we call “zaśpiew” (“sing”, but I wouldn’t call it exactly beautiful, it irritates sometimes in the way of unnecessary prolonging words), I do not distinguish between Ukrainian accent and Belorussian accent in Polish.

    Anyway, similarities can be misleading. In Europe, only Polish and Portuguese have strong nasal vowels (French ones are weaker). But besides that, Poland and Portugal aren’t really alike.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    For a Pole from Poland proper like me, Poles both from Ukraine and Belarus speak with what we call “zaśpiew” (“sing”,
     
    That must be the difference in intonation or some strange language interaction. I found that in Russia people here my wrong (English-influenced) intonation. Ukrainian does not have long vowels. It’s melodious because there is virtually always a vowel after a consonant, as in French. Like any language that acquired writing recently, Ukrainian is phonetic: you write what you say. In sharp contrast to French, where you write 8 letters and pronounce only 3-4 of them.

    Neither Russian nor English is phonetic. Likely because of many centuries of writing: spoken language changes a lot faster than written. This is particularly obvious with American English: the writing of most words is the same as in British, but pronunciation is quite different. As we were taught British English in the USSR, it took me a couple of years to switch. At the beginning American sounded weird to me, now British sounds weird.
  1008. @Bashibuzuk
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Hi Bromance, nice reading you again. I agree that Dugin is not to be taken too seriously. Anyway, I wrote enough about him.

    On another (and more interesting) topic, I wanted to ask you about the origins of the Japanese Imperial dynasty. Are they descendants of some ancient clan from the Korean Peninsula that conquered the native peoples of ancient Japan ?

    I didn’t really look into it, but I am sure that being knowledgeable about the history of the Far East you’d have some interesting facts to share.

    Thanks in advance!

    Replies: @songbird

    about the origins of the Japanese Imperial dynasty. Are they descendants of some ancient clan from the Korean Peninsula that conquered the native peoples of ancient Japan ?

    Ideas about the genetic history of Japan were heavily revised after late 2021, with the major change being that the core of the modern Japanese population formed much later than originally thought.

    [MORE]

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8448447/

    IMO, closest analogy explaining the modern Japanese would be to the Anglo-Saxons invading SE England. Closer in time to that, but more transformative to the population of main islands as a whole.

    If one considers the hunter-gatherer Jōmon the natives, then they were invaded by the Yayoi agriculturists who came by way of Korea around 300 BC.

    The Yayoi were in turn invaded by the Kofun who arrived roughly around 250 or 300 AD, also by way of Korea. Each of the three groups was morphologically different, with the Jōmon being the most distinct.

    There were Yayoi in Korea, and previous to them Jomon, so it is difficult to model, but there was at least 70% genetic replacement in Japan, by the Kofun. (And I think probably more, if one considers they brought admixture with them from Korea)

    Though modern Japanese are most closely related to Koreans, the Kofun themselves more closely resembled modern Han than modern Koreans.

    The Kofun period was when centralization really took off, but the Yayoi had smaller kingdoms. Curiously one of them was called Yamatoi, which almost seems to be a cognate with Yamato, which is what the Japanese call themselves, but possibly it could be a coincidence. Or they may have kept the name of the place, after they conquered it.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamatai

    The first somewhat detailed account of Japan by the Chinese dates to c297 AD.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wajinden

    Probably it was written about the Yayoi. But shockingly the Chinese never recorded different ethnic groups or any conquest of Japan by the Kofun. A lot of immigration took place during Kofun, possibly because of more centralization or more advanced state formation.

    About 1/6 of Japanese clans recorded in the Shinsen Shijiroku c815 AD were said to have an origin in one of the Korean kingdoms, with the majority coming from Baekje after it fell in 660 AD. Some of these had inferred Chinese ancestry based on the characters of their names. Excluding these, about 1/12 of the clans were said to have a Chinese origin.

    IMO, the early line of Japanese emperors is either totally fake, or else they started in Korea or Manchuria and not in Japan.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    That's not bad.

    Have you done Khazaria?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @songbird

  1009. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Well, the language of translation was kind of sparse, tense, some metaphors;
     
    The original had sparse and tense language, with some unusual word usage: grammatically correct, but nobody else said or wrote it that way. It would be impossible for me to translate it into English and preserve that specific flavor (you feel it by subconsciously comparing to other Russian literature). The world he described is indeed Kafkaesque, seemingly orderly, but grotesquely nonsensical. I like The Foundation Pit better than Chevengur, maybe because it conveys the same message but is much shorter.

    My Polish is minimal, maybe 200 words and phrases. It’s woefully insufficient to read real literature or appreciate finer points of translation.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Well, you tell me which translation of the title is better.
    The translator of the version I have read translated it as “Dół”, which is basically any hole in ground, made by whatever (can be by man or Tunguska meteorite if you like).

    Another version rendered it as “Wykop” which is a hole in ground made specifically by digging, either by animal or man/machine. To compare, trench is “okop” (the stem of “kop” /dig is preserved).

    BTW, I did not read “Chevengur”.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective

    In Russian the foundation pit is one word, “kotlovan”. It only means what you dig for a foundation of a building, nothing else. BTW, trench in Russian is also “okop”, and this word has no other meaning. A hole in the ground of any provenance is “yama”, dug out animal burrow is “nora”. So, none of the words you mention is quite equivalent to “kotlovan”. One of the messages was that they dig out “kotlovan” not knowing what building it is supposed to be for. That’s one of Kafkaesque aspects of that novel.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Gerard1234

  1010. I think Dmitry would enjoy this clip as it demonstrates peculiar psychological traits in an actress.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/VwUANo_TQNs?si=Xd_rU6ZMpkOi4m3_

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
  1011. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Maybe a stupid question, but was Russian literature translated into Ukrainian and vice versa?
     
    Yes, Russian literature was translated into Ukrainian, and Ukrainian literature was translated into Russian. I never read any of those translations, as I read both in the original language, so I don’t know how good were those translations.

    In general, in Soviet times low quality translations were not allowed, but I can judge for myself only translations from English, as I read the originals when in the US. I know nothing about Belorussian, as I don’t speak or read it. When I was in Minsk in the 1980s, the only things that spoke Belorussian were radio and TV. I would expect that translated books in Belorussian were printed, regardless of low demand (based on my experience with books in Ukrainian).

    BTW, aesthetically speaking, Belorussian sounds harsh, like Serbian or Bulgarian, whereas Ukrainian is very melodious.

    Replies: @Beckow

    There was a lot wrong with the pre-1990 Central-Eastern Europe but there was no national oppression – commies were internationalists and supported national cultures. Ukies, Poles, Latvians lie to fool the gullible Westies. But the West likes to be lied to.

    Czech and Slovak languages are very close so our books were not translated, TV alternated between the languages. Our national arguments were about the Czechs subsidizing Slovakia and too many Slovaks among the top leaders – and Slovaks thinking the Czechs in Prague were assholes. All of that is true but we would be better off as a federal state. Majorities regret the split and 1/3 of people prefer pre-1989. The Western propaganda only tells half the story.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    commies were internationalists and supported national cultures.
     
    Commies were internationalists to a fault. They has an equivalent of affirmative action in Moscow State University. We had entrance exams, and in my year there were 13 applicants per place in biology, so the acceptance rate for those entering by an honest route was pretty low. The republics had quotas and selected students to fill these quotas themselves (this was called ‘nazionalny nabor” (national path)). Most of their picks were not nearly qualified, and the rest of the education process was honest. So, they failed the first set of exams (we had sets of exams twice a year, in December and in May) and left (thank goodness for that).

    The Westies like not any kind of lies, only lies matching their propaganda. That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well. I am proud to say that I never used those easy paths, never told any lies about the Soviet system, got an honest job in the US from the beginning and never got anything unearned in 30+ years. I am also proud to say that I never belonged to any political party in the USSR or the US. In terms of dishonesty political parties can easily compete with MSM and churches, beat used car salesmen hands down.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Coconuts

  1012. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    I don’t think one can characterize Taiwan and the Indo-Pacific US allies as criminal regimes.
     
    To the best of my knowledge, Taiwan regime is not criminal. But the bulk of that package went to Ukraine and Israel, both ruled by criminal regimes.

    I agree that even Trump is better than the current cabal, but that does not mean that he is good. Say, even a German shepherd is smarter than Biden, but this does not mean that it is highly intelligent.

    As we saw in his previous administration, certain things are preordained and cannot be touched, no matter what people think they are voting for.
     
    That’s a sure sign of democracy, isn’t it?

    Replies: @Mikel

    That’s a sure sign of democracy, isn’t it?

    I hope you don’t think that Russian voters are more empowered than Western ones lol.

    It used to be a little better in the past. At least wrt censorship and elite control of ideas. You must have noticed when you moved to the West decades ago.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    I hope you don’t think that Russian voters are more empowered than Western ones lol.
     
    Russian voters get what they wish for a lot more often than Western voters. The West is obsessed with elections, but the whole process is subverted: we elect nonentities, figureheads, whereas real power resides elsewhere. That explains obsession with term limits: figureheads never have enough time to learn the ropes, so they remain impotent (like Trump in his first term).

    It used to be a little better in the past.
     
    Agree with that. In 1991-2000 the US society deteriorated slowly, the increase in dysfunctionality accelerated ofter that, in the last three years the deterioration is catastrophic. That’s one of the reasons I think that even Trump, warts and all, is better than current cabal (it’s called “Biden”, but can anyone think that this demented puppet actually has power?).
  1013. @Matra
    @Mikel

    Trump needs to win Ohio - no GOP candidate has ever won without it and it's a sizeable state. Also, if he cares even a little bit 'America First' on immigration, trade, & foreign policy he'll choose someone young who is on board with that agenda in the future rather than someone who will revert to Ned Flanders conservatardism. So JD Vance would seem to be a good choice. It's also good that he's an Ivy Leaguer as one of the main problems with MAGA is that it hasn't attracted enough intelligent people with elite connections.

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

    Trump won Ohio comfortably in 2020 so he shouldn’t have much of a problem there if current polls are to be trusted. If he loses states that he won in 2020, he has no chance anyway. Vance would be another good pick for VP but he has been too vocal about foreign aid and he’s just started his career in DC so he must be deeply hated by the neocons already. Unfortunately, I don’t know how Trump can win if he doesn’t get a big majority of the Haley votes, the ones that Vance would do little to attract. Not that I am a very knowledgeable analyst by any stretch of the imagination but if I was advising Trump, I guess I’d ask him to pick a moderate RINO, just for November, and then pray that Trump doesn’t die in office.

  1014. AP says:
    @Matra
    @Mikel

    Trump needs to win Ohio - no GOP candidate has ever won without it and it's a sizeable state. Also, if he cares even a little bit 'America First' on immigration, trade, & foreign policy he'll choose someone young who is on board with that agenda in the future rather than someone who will revert to Ned Flanders conservatardism. So JD Vance would seem to be a good choice. It's also good that he's an Ivy Leaguer as one of the main problems with MAGA is that it hasn't attracted enough intelligent people with elite connections.

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

    Trump needs to win Ohio – no GOP candidate has ever won without it and it’s a sizeable state. Also, if he cares even a little bit ‘America First’ on immigration, trade, & foreign policy he’ll choose someone young who is on board with that agenda in the future rather than someone who will revert to Ned Flanders conservatardism. So JD Vance would seem to be a good choice.

    Ohio is a Red State and Trump will win it no matter whom he picks.

    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio’s large Eastern European population who live in the northern parts of the state and who otherwise vote Republican. He won his election 53% to 47%.The same election in which Vance won 53% to 47%, the Republican Governor DeWine won 62% to 37%.

    Vance’s predecessor, Portman, had won 58% to 37% in the previous Senate election.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @AP


    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio’s large Eastern European population
     
    Once again showing that Eastern Europeans are mostly fifth columnists who should never have been allowed into the US - or the Western world in general - because they are clearly incapable of upholding basic Western standards of behaviour such as loyalty to one's country of residence.

    Replies: @AP, @Derer

  1015. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Oh, you are starting to publish cya DoD and CIA excuses for losing the war now?

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    Oh, you are starting to publish cya DoD and CIA excuses for losing the war now?

    I responded to your claim that Ukraine is under the control of the West.

    I provided numerous counter-points and you are now ignoring them.

    Did you want to respond to my points or do your usual MO which is to call me a Jew and run off like a little girl?

    What is it like being such a coward? A shell of a man that can’t face reality?

    Why do you even bother trying to do damage control for your mass murdering dwarf if you can’t make rational points like a White man?

    Just admit your are no different than some tribal African who puts his faith in BIG MAN even if he can’t explain why he should follow him.

    You’re one of the most pathetic Putin defenders here. In case you hadn’t noticed most of the Putin bloggers no longer try to run damage control for him. You however seem to think the 2.5 week operation now on year 2.5 is worth defending.

    You try to make an argument, get called out on its bullshit and then you run away.

    If you worked from reason to begin with and not your batshit crazy “EVERYONE QUESTIONING ME MUST BE A JEW” position of paranoia then you might actually not make such embarrassing posts. Try considering the possibility that reality might be more complex than one giant Jewish conspiracy.

  1016. @songbird
    @Bashibuzuk


    about the origins of the Japanese Imperial dynasty. Are they descendants of some ancient clan from the Korean Peninsula that conquered the native peoples of ancient Japan ?
     
    Ideas about the genetic history of Japan were heavily revised after late 2021, with the major change being that the core of the modern Japanese population formed much later than originally thought.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8448447/

    IMO, closest analogy explaining the modern Japanese would be to the Anglo-Saxons invading SE England. Closer in time to that, but more transformative to the population of main islands as a whole.

    If one considers the hunter-gatherer Jōmon the natives, then they were invaded by the Yayoi agriculturists who came by way of Korea around 300 BC.

    The Yayoi were in turn invaded by the Kofun who arrived roughly around 250 or 300 AD, also by way of Korea. Each of the three groups was morphologically different, with the Jōmon being the most distinct.

    There were Yayoi in Korea, and previous to them Jomon, so it is difficult to model, but there was at least 70% genetic replacement in Japan, by the Kofun. (And I think probably more, if one considers they brought admixture with them from Korea)

    Though modern Japanese are most closely related to Koreans, the Kofun themselves more closely resembled modern Han than modern Koreans.

    The Kofun period was when centralization really took off, but the Yayoi had smaller kingdoms. Curiously one of them was called Yamatoi, which almost seems to be a cognate with Yamato, which is what the Japanese call themselves, but possibly it could be a coincidence. Or they may have kept the name of the place, after they conquered it.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamatai

    The first somewhat detailed account of Japan by the Chinese dates to c297 AD.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wajinden

    Probably it was written about the Yayoi. But shockingly the Chinese never recorded different ethnic groups or any conquest of Japan by the Kofun. A lot of immigration took place during Kofun, possibly because of more centralization or more advanced state formation.

    About 1/6 of Japanese clans recorded in the Shinsen Shijiroku c815 AD were said to have an origin in one of the Korean kingdoms, with the majority coming from Baekje after it fell in 660 AD. Some of these had inferred Chinese ancestry based on the characters of their names. Excluding these, about 1/12 of the clans were said to have a Chinese origin.

    IMO, the early line of Japanese emperors is either totally fake, or else they started in Korea or Manchuria and not in Japan.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    That’s not bad.

    Have you done Khazaria?

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    The funniest thing to do would be to question the most probable ethnic background of the Ashkenazim maternal bloodlines.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    Around 80% non Semitic or even Middle Eastern?

    😋

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    , @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Curiously, about 2-3% of Ashkenazi maternal lineages seem to possibly have a Chinese origin. Tempting to attribute it to slaves brought along the Silk Road. But I suppose it might be something Turkic.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Bashibuzuk

  1017. @A123
    @Mikel

    Here is an easy question for you... Imagine you are standing on railroad tracks and there is a train coming. Do you:

    -A- Voluntarily stay on the tracks leading to your inevitable demise?
    -B- Show common sense by moving?

    I hope you would choose B.
    ____

    Trump was stuck in a similar position to B. DNC+RINO were passing the cash to Ukraine regardless of what he did.

    The real decision was to save Johnson or force him from office. Forcing him from office would be an inevitable disaster, probably ending Trump's Presidential campaign: (1)


    Former President Trump muddied the waters with his support of Johnson, “Trump says he thinks Speaker Mike Johnson is ‘doing a very good job’ amid ouster threat from Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

    I doubt this is some form of 5D chess from Trump; it is only the simple reality that if Johnson is ousted and Democrats take control of the House, Trump’s November election is over.

    Remember the U.S. Supreme Court decision on “insurrection” claimed by the Colorado Supreme Court? The March 4 decision stated:


    The Constitution empowers Congress to prescribe how those determinations should be made. The relevant provision is Section 5, which enables Congress, subject of course to judicial review, to pass “appropriate legislation” to “enforce” the Fourteenth Amendment.
     
    In other words, Congress, by a simple majority, can pass a bill claiming that Trump is disqualified from the election due to being an “insurrectionist.” That would be the first order of business by a Democrat-controlled House. The Senate would pass the House bill and President Biden would sign it.

    If you don’t believe the Democrats would try to disqualify Trump in this manner, a bill introduced by Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin is already teed up.

    Per Axios:


    Raskin pointed to legislation he introduced with Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) in 2022 creating a pathway for the Justice Department to sue to keep candidates off the ballot under the 14th Amendment.

    “We are going to revise it in light of the Supreme Court’s decision,” Raskin said.

    Raskin suggested the bill would be paired with a resolution declaring Jan. 6 an “insurrection” and that those involved “engaged in insurrection.”

     

    The SCOTUS decision mentioned, “Subject of course to judicial review.” Would that stop such a scheme? Why would SCOTUS block such an act of Congress that they green-lighted in their recent decision?

    This would explain Trump supporting Johnson. Does Rep. MTG realize how this could play out? Is she acting out of principle, or is this a backhanded way of undermining Trump? This is where the 5D chess machinations come in. Washington, D.C., is indeed a swamp.
     
    If the Democrats obtain the Speaker's chair there is a 100% chance they have the votes.

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race? If you were in Trump's position, what would you have done?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/04/how_do_you_solve_a_problem_like_mike_johnson.html

    Replies: @Mikel

    If you were in Trump’s position, what would you have done?

    For starters, convey the message that he’s going to lose his job if he doesn’t defund the DoJ, the FBI and all the agencies that are engaged in lawfare against him. Behave like the Democrats would, no more no less, for his own personal sake. We’ve had hearings and investigative committees for years now and they don’t lead anywhere. Start using the power of the purse. The fact that none of that is happening and the Dems continue getting everything they want tells us what to expect realistically from a second Trump term.

    I wouldn’t trust MTG to have thought her move through but I do trust Massie. If it all results in the shame of Johnson clinging to his role as Speaker with Dem votes, it could be a good development. He’ll likely get ousted in November.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel



    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race? If you were in Trump’s position, what would you have done?
     
    Start using the power of the purse.
     
    Of course, candidates do not have the "Power of the Purse". That will only be available after Trump begins his 2nd term.

    For starters, convey the message that he’s going to lose his job if he doesn’t defund the DoJ, the FBI and all the agencies that are engaged in lawfare against him.

     

    How would this help Johnson keep his Speakership, thus keeping the Democrats out of the seat that could disqualify Trump?

    The emotional content of your proposal is appreciated. However, it translates into a immediate failure that would result in being run down by the proverbial train. Trump is too smart to end his campaign with such folly.

    the shame of Johnson clinging to his role as Speaker with Dem votes, it could be a good development. He’ll likely get ousted in November.
     
    This is likely true.

    As I have said many, many, many times -- The best way to create change in DC is simultaneous MAGA control the Presidency, House, and Senate. Undermining that by supporting Leftoid, anti-MAGA RFKjr is a self destructive position on your part.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  1018. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail


    undemocratic and neo-Nazi
     
    Written as if it would have been something wrong.

    But of course Kiev’s government is unfortunately none of the above and its flaws are due to it being a corrupt Noviop entity, just like the Moscovite regime is. This confrontation is an intraspecies’ conflict and turf war between two parasitic oligarchic post-Soviet mafia groups. And the soldiers on both sides pay the price, not to mention the suffering of the civilians.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    Factually speaking, the Kiev regime is undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced. Russia was fine with a neutral Ukraine that respected its pro-Russian inhabitants.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail

    Factually speaking the РОА fighters during WW2 and the after war Solidarists in the Russian emigrant diaspora were basically fascists. And so was Ivan Il’yin who is supposedly Pynya’s favourite philosopher. Il’yin applauded the Nazi coming to power. Pynya admires Il’yin, so basically Pynya admires a guy who was a Hitler’s fan boy for a few years. Moreover, Solovyov (Shapiro) said on record that Mussolini was basically a nice guy. So what’s wrong again about being undemocratic and fascist / Neo-Nazi ?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Derer

  1019. AP says:
    @Another Polish Perspective
    Maybe a stupid question, but was Russian literature translated into Ukrainian and vice versa?
    For example, Dostoyevsky, who allegedly was partly of Belorussian origin, but has often idiosyncratic language (there is now the second Polish translation of his books being made), was he ever translated into Ukrainian or Belorussian ?
    I remember before WWII Soviet Union had this policy of encouraging national languages.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Dostoyevsky, who allegedly was partly of Belorussian origin

    Dostoyevsky’s paternal grandfather, Andriy Dostoyevsky, was a Greek Catholic (Uniate) priest of gentry background from western Ukraine. The Dostoyevsky family had moved to western Ukraine from Belarus in the 17th century. When Poland was partitioned, they were on the Russian side of the border. If they had moved further west in Ukraine from Belarus, the Dostoyevsky family would likely have simply been Galician Ukrainians with distant Belarusian origins. Such families exist. And the author himself would never have been born, because his father moved from Ukraine to Moscow and in Russia he married the author’s mother.

  1020. AP says:
    @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Do you still think that Mikhail Bulgakov was a Ukrainian writer, like those KGB chiefs were supposedly Ukrainian?

    You keep avoiding that question.

     

    WHAT question "avoided", you dickhead fantasist? I am still recovering from the injuries sustained in laughter from your bimbo retard "Nazi's were Prussian/Protestant sect" . I could have recovered from that without surgery.....but then you exacerbated that by mentioning Nuremberg to "support" your claim!!! Idiotic in so many ways. Additionally by mentioning Nuremberg you stupid prick - it made be think about Rudenko, who I would have completely forgot about, LMAO!

    All that clownish stupidity was enough for me to not be that angry with your digusting, evil scumbag lies about the ukronazi mass murder in Odessa 10 years ago - it just shows what a permanantly cursed-in-hell disease you are.

    Bulgakov is Russian. Kiev is Russian . Ukrainian is actually Russian. Ukrainians are Russians. Khokhlism is a psychiatric disease infecting some Russians. End of argument.

    Reading Bulgakov is reading Russian world, Russian culture, Russian language at it's best. For any Kiev resident , in several of his writings you are reading about their city, their landmarks, the city's character in his writings. This all works if the obvious that Kiev and Bulgakov and Ukraine are Russian is accepted.

    Bulgakov, in any way cannot be compared with examples as:

    Rudyard Kipling - not a single Indian is going to claim him as theirs, every Brit ( well those who can read) is going to claim and be proud that he is great Englishman. Some Indians maybe happy that he wrote things involving India, but nothing more than that.

    Or Franz Liszt with Hungary - definitely not like the Kipling example, I don't have any friends in Hungary to discuss him with, but he certainly appears to be a symbol of Hungary, though it would make things even better for Hungarians if he was ethnically Hungarian, particularly as Bartok is sh*t by comparison.

    Bulgakov is just further example that "Ukraine" is Russia and "Ukrainians" are Russians and Kiev is a Russian city. No sane person is going to say he is like the Kipling or Liszt example on what nationality he should be identified with.

    As for the embarrassing ( for Ukronazis) fact that 3 leaders consecutively of KGB were UKRAINIANS - Chebrikov, Semichastny, Fedorchuk:

    All born in Ukraine- unlike you
    All lived and worked in Ukraine.....unlike you
    All spoke Ukraininan (that includes the other Ukrainians like Brezhnev and Khrushchev).....unlike you
    All were effected by Soviet-created "Ukrainianisation" .....unlike you
    All listed and identified themselves as Ukrainian on passport....unlike you
    All served Ukraine.....unlike you

    Now, as only recently I wrote about how much of the current khokhol leadership is entirely non-Ukrop - all Russians and Jews, or the fact the "patriarch" of wakjob khokhol nationalism is......ethnic Russian Dmitry Dontsov.......or the vast numbers of historical Galician agitators who are either 100% of half-Polish - your idiocy to claim these 3 Ukrainian leaders of KGB as Russian is as demented as it is dishonest.

    As for their ethnicity- Ukrop ethnicity is fake anyway, and everything is so intermixed under one Russian culture , so many from mixed villages where could russianise or khokholise their name independent of if Russian or malorossiyan....that its beyond braindead to try and hide from the inconvenient fact as you do.Fedorchuk is obvious, Chebrikov - I have zero idea about the root of that name, could possibly be something encountered more the further west of Russian world into 404 you go. Semichastny - old Russian - could easily be any of Russia/Belarus/404 origin - though very likely 404. Either way- all Ukrainians.

    Just to repeat and increase my list from before, Ukronazis of their most populated age group now , have grown up with in the 1980's Ukrainians in all these high power positions leading USSR at the same time:

    Leader of USSR, Heads of KGB, Defence Minister, Interior Minister, Chief Prosecutor, Head of Mosfilm, Head of Space Program (Glushko), Chief Serial murderer (Chikatilo), Admiral of Navy, Marshall of VVS ( now VKS) ,Ivashustin - Head of GRU, Manager of USSR football team, President of Academy of Sciences and about a million other high power positions.

    They have grown up with that - and partially explains the parasitism and self-entitlement that has helped make it the most failed of post-Soviet states.
    That's all without considering the numerous , Soviet design Bureaus based in 404 and the very sizeable infrastructure built in late 1970's, 1980s.

    USSR was more Ukrainian-controlled than than the semibankirschina was Jewish. Current Israeli leadership is probably more ethnically Ukrainian than the actual Ukrop leadership........which is ironic because Ukrop leadership is almost as Jewish as the Israeli government, LMAO.

    Replies: @AP

    Bulgakov is Russian. Kiev is Russian . Ukrainian is actually Russian. Ukrainians are Russians.

    So you claim that “Ukrainians” are also Russians.

    But you stated that KGB chief Semichastny was a Ukrainian.

    He was born in Ukraine to Russian parents who came to Ukraine from Tula.

    So if he was a Ukrainian, then by your logic so was Mikhail Bulgakov who was born in Kiev to a Russian family.

    So once again answer the question: if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?

    Don’t weasel yourself out of it by claiming Ukrainians are Russians. Just answer the question directly. Either both are Russians or both are Ukrainians. Be consistent in your stupidity.

    Reading Bulgakov is reading Russian world, Russian culture, Russian language at it’s best.

    I enjoy his creation Sharikov. Sharikov is a perfect representation of Soviet Man -people like you.

    Chebrikov, Semichastny, Fedorchuk

    So, to review:

    Unless Bulgakov is a Ukrainian (he is not), then only one of those three, Fedorchuk, is a Ukrainian.

    Chebrikov is a Russian surname and he was born in Yekaterynoslav in 1923. At that time, the population of that city was only about 30% Ukrainian. It was mostly Russians and Jews.

    Semichastny’s parents moved to Ukraine from Tula, which borders Moscow province, in Russia.

    You have demonstrated that you have no idea who is a Russian or who is a Ukrainian. No need to address the rest of your nonsense.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    So you claim that “Ukrainians” are also Russians.

    But you stated that KGB chief Semichastny was a Ukrainian.

     

    There is the" Ukrainians are Russians" fact, or there is the "Ukrainians are separate from Russians" lie/psychiatric illness that Galicians smuggled into North America in 1940s/50s scum need to argue to justify their shithole existence ( and claim as their own a million things that have nothing to do with them) plus invent some "Ukrops were repressed" idiotic BS. Clearly to disprove the nonsense "Ukrops repressed" I can just point to the abundance of those by ethnicity or nationality.

    If you go on the fake "ethnicity" argument......you lose extremely easily because of the abudance of ethnic "Ukrainians" in Russia or in Ukraine that serve Russia now or served USSR at the very top , or millions of people who spoke , married, spoke, thought of themselves as Russian.

    If you go on "nationality" line........then the same thing.
    It's amusing, like a magic trick where the magician asks you to select something, do a million things and then he reveals he knows what you picked.......as the whole process has been rigged to him him the card or whatever that he wanted.

    So once again answer the question: if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?
     
    WTF is there to answer? The name Semichastny could very easily have ( what is now) Ukrop origins, He was Ukrop, he thought he was Ukrop, most importantly everybody in USSR at the time thought he was "Ukrainian". Exact same thing with Chebrikov.

    Bulgakov thought he was Russian, was culturally Russian, was from the most Russian of Russian cities, hilariously - like everyone else in Kiev and the rest of Ukraine.....he couldn't understand WTF language Petliura's freaks were talking about during their brief and failed invasion and occupation , he is a Russian icon. If he was alive now he would be arrested, probably killed, by the Ukronazi regime. And LOL - streets with his name renamed, taken off education, books banned from reprinting, monuments taken down of him in 404 but in Russia it's the complete opposite.
    So it is hilarious the ridiculous nonsense you are trying to argue.

    Claiming he isn't Russian would be as demented as claiming the Atlantic Ocean doesn't have water in it.

    Chebrikov is a Russian
     
    Don't think so at all. Especially not until somebody can explain the root of that name.

    I enjoy his creation Sharikov. Sharikov is a perfect representation of Soviet Man -people like you.
     
    I am proud of the Soviet and Tsarist elements of my culture and history, why wouldn't I be, LOL. Same thing applies to Sikorsky of course.

    The rest of your post is just more autistic nonsense.

    Just to repeat the partial list again of those all in power at the same time during the 1980's, LMAO:

    Leader of USSR, Heads of KGB, Defence Minister, Interior Minister, Chief Prosecutor, Head of Mosfilm, Head of Space Program (Glushko), Chief Serial murderer (Chikatilo), Admiral of Navy, Marshall of VVS ( now VKS) ,Ivashustin – Head of GRU, Manager of USSR football team, President of Academy of Sciences

    Replies: @AP

  1021. Macroleon Doubles Down on Threats to Send French Troops to Ukraine, Russian Breakthrough Continues to Bloom, Russian & American Troops in Same Niger Military Base, more…
    https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/macroleon-doubles-down-on-threats?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

  1022. A123 says: • Website
    @Mikel
    @A123


    If you were in Trump’s position, what would you have done?
     
    For starters, convey the message that he's going to lose his job if he doesn't defund the DoJ, the FBI and all the agencies that are engaged in lawfare against him. Behave like the Democrats would, no more no less, for his own personal sake. We've had hearings and investigative committees for years now and they don't lead anywhere. Start using the power of the purse. The fact that none of that is happening and the Dems continue getting everything they want tells us what to expect realistically from a second Trump term.

    I wouldn't trust MTG to have thought her move through but I do trust Massie. If it all results in the shame of Johnson clinging to his role as Speaker with Dem votes, it could be a good development. He'll likely get ousted in November.

    Replies: @A123

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race? If you were in Trump’s position, what would you have done?

    Start using the power of the purse.

    Of course, candidates do not have the “Power of the Purse”. That will only be available after Trump begins his 2nd term.

    For starters, convey the message that he’s going to lose his job if he doesn’t defund the DoJ, the FBI and all the agencies that are engaged in lawfare against him.

    How would this help Johnson keep his Speakership, thus keeping the Democrats out of the seat that could disqualify Trump?

    The emotional content of your proposal is appreciated. However, it translates into a immediate failure that would result in being run down by the proverbial train. Trump is too smart to end his campaign with such folly.

    the shame of Johnson clinging to his role as Speaker with Dem votes, it could be a good development. He’ll likely get ousted in November.

    This is likely true.

    As I have said many, many, many times — The best way to create change in DC is simultaneous MAGA control the Presidency, House, and Senate. Undermining that by supporting Leftoid, anti-MAGA RFKjr is a self destructive position on your part.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    As I have said many, many, many times — The best way to create change in DC is simultaneous MAGA control the Presidency, House, and Senate. Undermining that by supporting Leftoid, anti-MAGA RFKjr is a self destructive position on your part.

    You do realize that Johnson held out for 6 months on Ukraine aid until he met with Trump at Mar-a-lago?

    Then "by chance" Johnson shows up 2 weeks later with a massive bill for Ukraine, Israel aid and goodies for the US defense industry? Including the ATACMs and HIMARs missiles that Ukraine requested?

    Replies: @A123

  1023. @Another Polish Perspective

    BTW, aesthetically speaking, Belorussian sounds harsh, like Serbian or Bulgarian, whereas Ukrainian is very melodious.
     
    For a Pole from Poland proper like me, Poles both from Ukraine and Belarus speak with what we call "zaśpiew" ("sing", but I wouldn't call it exactly beautiful, it irritates sometimes in the way of unnecessary prolonging words), I do not distinguish between Ukrainian accent and Belorussian accent in Polish.

    Anyway, similarities can be misleading. In Europe, only Polish and Portuguese have strong nasal vowels (French ones are weaker). But besides that, Poland and Portugal aren't really alike.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    For a Pole from Poland proper like me, Poles both from Ukraine and Belarus speak with what we call “zaśpiew” (“sing”,

    That must be the difference in intonation or some strange language interaction. I found that in Russia people here my wrong (English-influenced) intonation. Ukrainian does not have long vowels. It’s melodious because there is virtually always a vowel after a consonant, as in French. Like any language that acquired writing recently, Ukrainian is phonetic: you write what you say. In sharp contrast to French, where you write 8 letters and pronounce only 3-4 of them.

    Neither Russian nor English is phonetic. Likely because of many centuries of writing: spoken language changes a lot faster than written. This is particularly obvious with American English: the writing of most words is the same as in British, but pronunciation is quite different. As we were taught British English in the USSR, it took me a couple of years to switch. At the beginning American sounded weird to me, now British sounds weird.

  1024. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    Well, you tell me which translation of the title is better.
    The translator of the version I have read translated it as "Dół", which is basically any hole in ground, made by whatever (can be by man or Tunguska meteorite if you like).

    Another version rendered it as "Wykop" which is a hole in ground made specifically by digging, either by animal or man/machine. To compare, trench is "okop" (the stem of "kop" /dig is preserved).

    BTW, I did not read "Chevengur".

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    In Russian the foundation pit is one word, “kotlovan”. It only means what you dig for a foundation of a building, nothing else. BTW, trench in Russian is also “okop”, and this word has no other meaning. A hole in the ground of any provenance is “yama”, dug out animal burrow is “nora”. So, none of the words you mention is quite equivalent to “kotlovan”. One of the messages was that they dig out “kotlovan” not knowing what building it is supposed to be for. That’s one of Kafkaesque aspects of that novel.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    In Russian the foundation pit is one word, “kotlovan”. It only means what you dig for a foundation of a building, nothing else
     
    .

    Then in Polish there is no direct, one word translation, only descriptive one like "wykop pod fundamenty".You could also say "dół pod fundamenty", but in terms of translation "wykop pod fundamenty" is closer. "Dół" has a kind of negative overtone, that someone doesn't really care, whereas "wykop" is neutral. But it is stylistic.

    In Polish "jama" means something cave-like, with "nora" being "jama" dug out by animal.

    "Dół" is something open, like a hole in the ground.

    , @Gerard1234
    @AnonfromTN


    In Russian the foundation pit is one word, “kotlovan”
     
    Derivative of Kotl (cauldron) or vice versa? In Muslim/desert countries now they dig out a pit from the sand to cook the food. In countries all over the world in history they dig a pit from the soil , throw some stones or rocks down, light the fire and cook the food - so maybe that is the root.

    Stuff like the "vykop", "okop" - that's one of the main pathetic things of ukrop - playing with the prefix, za, o, vy etc for a word so that it doesn't match the Russian. All very artificial. If the Polish word is different to the Russian then they go to the Polish equivalent word as the mova one. If the Polish and Russian word are the same then they go to the Tatar, English....Swahili or whatever equivalent.
  1025. @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    That’s a sure sign of democracy, isn’t it?
     
    I hope you don't think that Russian voters are more empowered than Western ones lol.

    It used to be a little better in the past. At least wrt censorship and elite control of ideas. You must have noticed when you moved to the West decades ago.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I hope you don’t think that Russian voters are more empowered than Western ones lol.

    Russian voters get what they wish for a lot more often than Western voters. The West is obsessed with elections, but the whole process is subverted: we elect nonentities, figureheads, whereas real power resides elsewhere. That explains obsession with term limits: figureheads never have enough time to learn the ropes, so they remain impotent (like Trump in his first term).

    It used to be a little better in the past.

    Agree with that. In 1991-2000 the US society deteriorated slowly, the increase in dysfunctionality accelerated ofter that, in the last three years the deterioration is catastrophic. That’s one of the reasons I think that even Trump, warts and all, is better than current cabal (it’s called “Biden”, but can anyone think that this demented puppet actually has power?).

  1026. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    There was a lot wrong with the pre-1990 Central-Eastern Europe but there was no national oppression - commies were internationalists and supported national cultures. Ukies, Poles, Latvians lie to fool the gullible Westies. But the West likes to be lied to.

    Czech and Slovak languages are very close so our books were not translated, TV alternated between the languages. Our national arguments were about the Czechs subsidizing Slovakia and too many Slovaks among the top leaders - and Slovaks thinking the Czechs in Prague were assholes. All of that is true but we would be better off as a federal state. Majorities regret the split and 1/3 of people prefer pre-1989. The Western propaganda only tells half the story.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    commies were internationalists and supported national cultures.

    Commies were internationalists to a fault. They has an equivalent of affirmative action in Moscow State University. We had entrance exams, and in my year there were 13 applicants per place in biology, so the acceptance rate for those entering by an honest route was pretty low. The republics had quotas and selected students to fill these quotas themselves (this was called ‘nazionalny nabor” (national path)). Most of their picks were not nearly qualified, and the rest of the education process was honest. So, they failed the first set of exams (we had sets of exams twice a year, in December and in May) and left (thank goodness for that).

    The Westies like not any kind of lies, only lies matching their propaganda. That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well. I am proud to say that I never used those easy paths, never told any lies about the Soviet system, got an honest job in the US from the beginning and never got anything unearned in 30+ years. I am also proud to say that I never belonged to any political party in the USSR or the US. In terms of dishonesty political parties can easily compete with MSM and churches, beat used car salesmen hands down.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    The republics had quotas and selected students to fill these quotas themselves (this was called ‘nazionalny nabor” (national path)).
     
    SU was too big so it was hard to apply consistent standards. Diversity and equality under different names always exist in large countries and over time undermine everything.

    We had it easy, other than a few political subjects like journalism it was merit-based. The systems were not connected and institutions were isolated living inside their own world.

    In the West today the poor kids at the Pali demos are identified and their undesirability is immediately known to all schools and employers - the commies had no such ability. They tried but were hopelessly outplayed by geography, sloppy record keeping, incompetence of most byrocrats, and the 'shirt is closer than a coat' attitude.

    Having a friend or family on the inside was substantially more relevant than any political activity. It is amusing to see the false picture the Western propaganda eagerly paints.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    I remember vividly getting a glossy brochure when I was a student and being surprised how little Russian stuff was promoted in the Soviet Union publication. No Tolstoy. No Tchaichovsky. No Landau Lifshitz course in theoretical Physics. Huge numbers for Uzbeks and Tajiks and Georgians and colorful local costumed people from out in the badlands. The most Russian thing in it seemed to be the Cosmonauts and the space part.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Wielgus

    , @Coconuts
    @AnonfromTN


    That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well.
     
    The Russian version of my first name sounds typically Jewish and if you transliterate my British surname directly into Russian it also sounds Jewish. I remember the challenges this caused registering a birth in Belarus. My wife was saying that the baby can't have that patronymic and surname, it will be disadvantaged in life and the situation would be bizarre given we both have no known Jewish ancestry.

    I observed that generally Belarusians didn't have the same kind of Holocaust religion as existed in the Anglosphere at that time. It seems like it was never promoted during the Soviet era either. Iirc around the same period I was reading Zemmour's book Le Suicide français, that was the first time I had seen any discussion of the central place the Holocaust held in culture and the way this was related to US/Israeli influence in a relatively mainstream book.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer

  1027. Matra says:
    @AP
    @Matra


    Trump needs to win Ohio – no GOP candidate has ever won without it and it’s a sizeable state. Also, if he cares even a little bit ‘America First’ on immigration, trade, & foreign policy he’ll choose someone young who is on board with that agenda in the future rather than someone who will revert to Ned Flanders conservatardism. So JD Vance would seem to be a good choice.
     
    Ohio is a Red State and Trump will win it no matter whom he picks.

    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio's large Eastern European population who live in the northern parts of the state and who otherwise vote Republican. He won his election 53% to 47%.The same election in which Vance won 53% to 47%, the Republican Governor DeWine won 62% to 37%.

    Vance's predecessor, Portman, had won 58% to 37% in the previous Senate election.

    Replies: @Matra

    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio’s large Eastern European population

    Once again showing that Eastern Europeans are mostly fifth columnists who should never have been allowed into the US – or the Western world in general – because they are clearly incapable of upholding basic Western standards of behaviour such as loyalty to one’s country of residence.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Matra


    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio’s large Eastern European population

    Once again showing that Eastern Europeans are mostly fifth columnists who should never have been allowed into the US – or the Western world in general
     
    Why do you view the interests of Eastern Europe and those of the USA (or the West) as mutually exclusive? Do you think that America, or the West, would be better off if its rivals were larger and stronger?

    And btw Brits left to their own devices are more anti-Brit (or Anglo, or whatever) than are the Eastern Europeans living amongst them. Look at what the English have done to poor England.

    Replies: @Cesar1191

    , @Derer
    @Matra


    (Eastern Europeans) incapable of upholding basic Western standards of behaviour
     
    Please defined the "Western standards of behaviour". Is it 27,000 murders a year? The post-war European influx is dying out and is replaced by the culture of drugs and violence.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  1028. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    That's not bad.

    Have you done Khazaria?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @songbird

    The funniest thing to do would be to question the most probable ethnic background of the Ashkenazim maternal bloodlines.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    Around 80% non Semitic or even Middle Eastern?

    😋

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    It is straw man. We take a false standard (maternal lineage) and claim something true is false on the account of our false standard.

    It doesn't really matter since paternal lines seem to come from Levant, and Judaism is paternal in the Bible, and that counts, not the later attempts at delegitimizing Askhenazi Jews as Jews conducted by Phoenician interests who took over Judaism and introduced matrilineality

    with the MSY results interpreted plausibly to suggest an overwhelming majority of Near Eastern ancestry on the Ashkenazi male line of descent

    Just ask yourself why these attempts at framing Askhenazi Jews as false Jews concern only them among Jews.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN

  1029. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Mikhail
    @Bashibuzuk

    Factually speaking, the Kiev regime is undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced. Russia was fine with a neutral Ukraine that respected its pro-Russian inhabitants.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Factually speaking the РОА fighters during WW2 and the after war Solidarists in the Russian emigrant diaspora were basically fascists. And so was Ivan Il’yin who is supposedly Pynya’s favourite philosopher. Il’yin applauded the Nazi coming to power. Pynya admires Il’yin, so basically Pynya admires a guy who was a Hitler’s fan boy for a few years. Moreover, Solovyov (Shapiro) said on record that Mussolini was basically a nice guy. So what’s wrong again about being undemocratic and fascist / Neo-Nazi ?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Bashibuzuk


    Hitler had a lot of great ideas but he just took it a little too far.
     
    --My uncle and probably a bunch of your uncles as well.
    , @Derer
    @Bashibuzuk


    ...Mussolini was basically a nice guy.
     
    When dealing with such a race as Slavic - inferior and barbarian - we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy ... We should not be afraid of new victims ... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps ... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians ...
    —Benito Mussolini, speech held in Pula, 20 September 1920

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  1030. @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail

    Factually speaking the РОА fighters during WW2 and the after war Solidarists in the Russian emigrant diaspora were basically fascists. And so was Ivan Il’yin who is supposedly Pynya’s favourite philosopher. Il’yin applauded the Nazi coming to power. Pynya admires Il’yin, so basically Pynya admires a guy who was a Hitler’s fan boy for a few years. Moreover, Solovyov (Shapiro) said on record that Mussolini was basically a nice guy. So what’s wrong again about being undemocratic and fascist / Neo-Nazi ?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Derer

    Hitler had a lot of great ideas but he just took it a little too far.

    –My uncle and probably a bunch of your uncles as well.

    • LOL: Bashibuzuk
  1031. @AP
    @Beckow


    Over 40 people were burnt to death by the Ukie nationalist mob and you are defending it
     
    You defend and excuse a war with 100,000s dead, and even admit that you find it entertaining. You are thus the last to complain.

    Unlike you, I see nothing good or entertaining about such deaths. It is a tragedy that 10 years ago violent pro-Russian thugs chose to assault a pro-Ukrainian crowd and chose to kill. Even though the pro-Russians ended up losing more lives that day.

    I do maintain that the deaths of countless civilians (including Russian ones) and even of soldiers, in part as a consequence of the fake massacre narrative you repeat, are far more tragic than the deaths of some of the violent and murderous pro-Russian thugs who died 10 years ago, such as this Chelyabinsk-born colonist living in Odesa who on that day was screaming about shooting people like dogs and Odessa is Russia:



    https://twitter.com/bucktron2021/status/1785826484810313868?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    Is he Jewish? Kushnarev sounds like a Jewish last name. Similar to Jared Kushner.

  1032. @AP
    @Bashibuzuk

    It certainly doesn’t matter much; I was just answering the question.

    Ethnicity is one of many factors. Yanukovich has a Russian mother and a Belarussian-Polish father. Yanukovichgrew up in majority-Russian Donetsk, not far from Russia itself, during Soviet times. Ukraine became independent when he was 40 years old. He was basically a Russian. Indeed he was so Russian, that while he was president of Ukraine even the Russian people of Crimea didn’t care much about independence from Ukraine. *

    Arestovich has a remarkably similar ethnic background to Yanukovich. He also has a Russian mother and a Polish-Belarusian father. But everything else about his background is different. Arestovich went to secondary school in Kiev (a Russian-speaking but proudly ethnic Ukrainian environment) and lived his life there, and is younger so he lived in independent Ukraine (he was 16 when Ukraine became independent). He is very different from Yanukovich, though also not an ethnic Ukrainian.

    *Unrelated to this discussion, but I wonder if one reason why the Québécois have not left Canada is that so many of Canada’s PMs have been French themselves: Trudeau, Martin, Chretien, the new Conservative Party leader is also French.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Another reason as to why the Quebecois have not left Canada might have to do with the Great Replacement making Canada more diverse and thus perhaps less pro-independence.

  1033. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    That's not bad.

    Have you done Khazaria?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @songbird

    Curiously, about 2-3% of Ashkenazi maternal lineages seem to possibly have a Chinese origin. Tempting to attribute it to slaves brought along the Silk Road. But I suppose it might be something Turkic.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @songbird


    ...about 2-3% of Ashkenazi maternal lineages seem to possibly have a Chinese origin.
     
    It could be Huns, Mongol and other steppe raiders from the far east. There had to be some women along for the plunder, camp followers, concubines, cooks, etc...

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    , @Bashibuzuk
    @songbird

    The Khazar Khaganate was basically a pseudo-ethnic Radhanites business venture controlling one of the key links in the terrestrial Silk Road. It had an immense economic impact at the time when the maritime Silk Road went extinct after the Islamic conquest of the Middle East and Central Asia. In the 8th century AD, the Radhanites were the only merchant guild capable of trading all the way between the former Western Roman Empire, China and India. In Carolingian territory, the Rahdanite enjoyed aristocratic privileges. In some Frankish documents of the time, the word Jew is used to describe a long distance merchant in general. And yeah, the Rahdanites were ruthless slave-traders, mostly selling Slavs (hence the words esclave in French, saqlab in Arabic and of course slave in English), but probably other ethnicities too.

  1034. @AP
    @Beckow


    The massacre of Russians in Odessa was real, not ‘fake’.
     
    That some violent Russian thugs killed someone and started a deadly riot in which more people, on their own side, died was real.

    That it was a "massacre" was fake.

    But most of your posts involve posting fake things, it's nothing new.

    Ukie nationalists will regret their crimes against the Russian minority.
    East Prussia Germans probably regretted what they did ...
     
    Do you think the people of Donbas regret keeping Ukraine out of NATO pre-2014? And allowing their lands to become a playground for Russian marauders - something the people of Odesa did not do?

    As a consequence, their lands are totally devastated and they are the bulk of both civilian and (per capita) military casualties.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Crimeans, though, unlike Donbassers, have fared pretty well throwing their lot in with Russia–at least until 2022 and beyond. Maybe this indicates that Putin treats ethnic Russians better than Sovoks.

  1035. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    commies were internationalists and supported national cultures.
     
    Commies were internationalists to a fault. They has an equivalent of affirmative action in Moscow State University. We had entrance exams, and in my year there were 13 applicants per place in biology, so the acceptance rate for those entering by an honest route was pretty low. The republics had quotas and selected students to fill these quotas themselves (this was called ‘nazionalny nabor” (national path)). Most of their picks were not nearly qualified, and the rest of the education process was honest. So, they failed the first set of exams (we had sets of exams twice a year, in December and in May) and left (thank goodness for that).

    The Westies like not any kind of lies, only lies matching their propaganda. That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well. I am proud to say that I never used those easy paths, never told any lies about the Soviet system, got an honest job in the US from the beginning and never got anything unearned in 30+ years. I am also proud to say that I never belonged to any political party in the USSR or the US. In terms of dishonesty political parties can easily compete with MSM and churches, beat used car salesmen hands down.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Coconuts

    The republics had quotas and selected students to fill these quotas themselves (this was called ‘nazionalny nabor” (national path)).

    SU was too big so it was hard to apply consistent standards. Diversity and equality under different names always exist in large countries and over time undermine everything.

    We had it easy, other than a few political subjects like journalism it was merit-based. The systems were not connected and institutions were isolated living inside their own world.

    In the West today the poor kids at the Pali demos are identified and their undesirability is immediately known to all schools and employers – the commies had no such ability. They tried but were hopelessly outplayed by geography, sloppy record keeping, incompetence of most byrocrats, and the ‘shirt is closer than a coat‘ attitude.

    Having a friend or family on the inside was substantially more relevant than any political activity. It is amusing to see the false picture the Western propaganda eagerly paints.

  1036. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Curiously, about 2-3% of Ashkenazi maternal lineages seem to possibly have a Chinese origin. Tempting to attribute it to slaves brought along the Silk Road. But I suppose it might be something Turkic.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Bashibuzuk

    …about 2-3% of Ashkenazi maternal lineages seem to possibly have a Chinese origin.

    It could be Huns, Mongol and other steppe raiders from the far east. There had to be some women along for the plunder, camp followers, concubines, cooks, etc…

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Beckow

    The area that Khazars ended up settling along the Volga was the exactly same area where the Attila’s Huns ended up vanishing. Coincidence?

    Also we have to keep in mind that only a part of the Khazarian elite converted to Judaism, the overall population of the Khaganate was religiously and ethically very diverse. The Khazar commoners were just a backbone upon which the Judaic elite built its power after a bloody and merciless civil war.

    An interesting twist is that after the downfall of the Khaganate under the Rus attacks, some of the Khazar elite members settled in Kiev. Prince Vladimir Svyatoslavich’s mother Malka might have been a Khazar. Her brother, Dobrynya (Vladimir’s maternal uncle) was later tasked with converting the pagan Rus to Christianity in Novgorodand he went to do that with a very heavy hand.

    Replies: @AP

  1037. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    commies were internationalists and supported national cultures.
     
    Commies were internationalists to a fault. They has an equivalent of affirmative action in Moscow State University. We had entrance exams, and in my year there were 13 applicants per place in biology, so the acceptance rate for those entering by an honest route was pretty low. The republics had quotas and selected students to fill these quotas themselves (this was called ‘nazionalny nabor” (national path)). Most of their picks were not nearly qualified, and the rest of the education process was honest. So, they failed the first set of exams (we had sets of exams twice a year, in December and in May) and left (thank goodness for that).

    The Westies like not any kind of lies, only lies matching their propaganda. That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well. I am proud to say that I never used those easy paths, never told any lies about the Soviet system, got an honest job in the US from the beginning and never got anything unearned in 30+ years. I am also proud to say that I never belonged to any political party in the USSR or the US. In terms of dishonesty political parties can easily compete with MSM and churches, beat used car salesmen hands down.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Coconuts

    I remember vividly getting a glossy brochure when I was a student and being surprised how little Russian stuff was promoted in the Soviet Union publication. No Tolstoy. No Tchaichovsky. No Landau Lifshitz course in theoretical Physics. Huge numbers for Uzbeks and Tajiks and Georgians and colorful local costumed people from out in the badlands. The most Russian thing in it seemed to be the Cosmonauts and the space part.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    how little Russian stuff was promoted in the Soviet Union publication. No Tolstoy. No Tchaichovsky.
     
    I guess Soviet propagandists expected Westerners to be brainless libtards. They were a few decades ahead of times.

    Inside the USSR Tolstoy, Pushkin, Tchaikovsky, and many other greats were officially revered (along with some politically correct second- and third-rate people like Gorky or Shevchenko). Books by Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Pushkin, Lermontov, Chekhov were printed, but not in sufficient numbers, so they were hard to get. Funny enough, you could get those high-demand books through regional party committees, even though party big shots were unlikely to read them. Enterprising second- and third-tier party bureaucrats bought them and resold at a tidy profit to normal people.

    Don’t know much about physics: I am a biologist, we had only pretty rudimentary physics and math courses at the university.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Jazman

    , @Wielgus
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    The Soviet Union was accused of holding down and oppressing minorities and I suspect much of their propaganda aimed at countering this. I remember buying an issue of the picture magazine Ogonyok ("Little Flame") which had on the front cover a photo of a young Turkmen woman who was in charge of an oil drill in the Turkmen SSR.

  1038. AP says:
    @Matra
    @AP


    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio’s large Eastern European population
     
    Once again showing that Eastern Europeans are mostly fifth columnists who should never have been allowed into the US - or the Western world in general - because they are clearly incapable of upholding basic Western standards of behaviour such as loyalty to one's country of residence.

    Replies: @AP, @Derer

    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio’s large Eastern European population

    Once again showing that Eastern Europeans are mostly fifth columnists who should never have been allowed into the US – or the Western world in general

    Why do you view the interests of Eastern Europe and those of the USA (or the West) as mutually exclusive? Do you think that America, or the West, would be better off if its rivals were larger and stronger?

    And btw Brits left to their own devices are more anti-Brit (or Anglo, or whatever) than are the Eastern Europeans living amongst them. Look at what the English have done to poor England.

    • Replies: @Cesar1191
    @AP


    Why do you view the interests of Eastern Europe and those of the USA (or the West) as mutually exclusive? Do you think that America, or the West, would be better off if its rivals were larger and stronger?

     

    I have to say, the pro-Russia or anti-Ukraine stance of Western or Nordic chauvinists are bizarre. Even if you don't care about Eastern Europeans, and you think of all Central Europeans and Balts and Finnic peoples as just those Eastern Europeans that you don't care about, you still only have to look at a map to see that Norway, Sweden and Denmark are right next to Russia, and that Germany shares a border with Poland.

    Sure, Russia is stuck in Eastern Ukraine now, but if Russia were to capture Ukraine and absorb its population, Russia would probably want to repeat such success with other countries. Eastern Europe and Western Europe are not separated by impenetrable geographic barriers. This is just logical, if Russia understands that it can increase its power by conquering its neighbors, then Russia will have no incentive not to do that, that incentive only stops when military defeat happens, and it seems like a good idea to help Ukraine to make that happen now instead of waiting until later, when the cost will be much higher.

    Replies: @sudden death, @John Johnson

  1039. @Matra
    @AP


    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio’s large Eastern European population
     
    Once again showing that Eastern Europeans are mostly fifth columnists who should never have been allowed into the US - or the Western world in general - because they are clearly incapable of upholding basic Western standards of behaviour such as loyalty to one's country of residence.

    Replies: @AP, @Derer

    (Eastern Europeans) incapable of upholding basic Western standards of behaviour

    Please defined the “Western standards of behaviour”. Is it 27,000 murders a year? The post-war European influx is dying out and is replaced by the culture of drugs and violence.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Please defined the “Western standards of behaviour”. Is it 27,000 murders a year? The post-war European influx is dying out and is replaced by the culture of drugs and violence.

    Is that a crude US + EU total without breaking down by race?

    Blacks commit most homicides in the US and it's actually undercounted as a dead body in Detroit is still classified as having an assailant of unknown race.

    But with that said I am no fan of US culture. I however don't see that as a reason to support a mass murdering dwarf and his totalitarian state that has an abortion rate that exceeds any EU country.

    I'm really not a fan of this idea that you can abort your child because you are ready to have sex but not the natural consequences. Russia however has a 20 year history of supporting abortion as birth control. Putin only tightened the abortion laws after the invasion. He declared that women need to have more kids to support the state. Funny how that only became a value after he started sending their sons to the front.

  1040. Derer says:
    @Bashibuzuk
    @Mikhail

    Factually speaking the РОА fighters during WW2 and the after war Solidarists in the Russian emigrant diaspora were basically fascists. And so was Ivan Il’yin who is supposedly Pynya’s favourite philosopher. Il’yin applauded the Nazi coming to power. Pynya admires Il’yin, so basically Pynya admires a guy who was a Hitler’s fan boy for a few years. Moreover, Solovyov (Shapiro) said on record that Mussolini was basically a nice guy. So what’s wrong again about being undemocratic and fascist / Neo-Nazi ?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Derer

    …Mussolini was basically a nice guy.

    When dealing with such a race as Slavic – inferior and barbarian – we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy … We should not be afraid of new victims … The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps … I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians …
    —Benito Mussolini, speech held in Pula, 20 September 1920

    • LOL: John Johnson, Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Derer

    And that is probably why (((Solovyov))) said that uncle Benito was a nice guy. After all (((Solovyov))) also applauds the needless waste of Slavic lives in the idiotic Ukraine war.

  1041. @A123
    @Mikel



    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race? If you were in Trump’s position, what would you have done?
     
    Start using the power of the purse.
     
    Of course, candidates do not have the "Power of the Purse". That will only be available after Trump begins his 2nd term.

    For starters, convey the message that he’s going to lose his job if he doesn’t defund the DoJ, the FBI and all the agencies that are engaged in lawfare against him.

     

    How would this help Johnson keep his Speakership, thus keeping the Democrats out of the seat that could disqualify Trump?

    The emotional content of your proposal is appreciated. However, it translates into a immediate failure that would result in being run down by the proverbial train. Trump is too smart to end his campaign with such folly.

    the shame of Johnson clinging to his role as Speaker with Dem votes, it could be a good development. He’ll likely get ousted in November.
     
    This is likely true.

    As I have said many, many, many times -- The best way to create change in DC is simultaneous MAGA control the Presidency, House, and Senate. Undermining that by supporting Leftoid, anti-MAGA RFKjr is a self destructive position on your part.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    As I have said many, many, many times — The best way to create change in DC is simultaneous MAGA control the Presidency, House, and Senate. Undermining that by supporting Leftoid, anti-MAGA RFKjr is a self destructive position on your part.

    You do realize that Johnson held out for 6 months on Ukraine aid until he met with Trump at Mar-a-lago?

    Then “by chance” Johnson shows up 2 weeks later with a massive bill for Ukraine, Israel aid and goodies for the US defense industry? Including the ATACMs and HIMARs missiles that Ukraine requested?

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    You do realize that Trump had been opposing Ukraine funding long before Johnson became Speaker?

    Only AFTER Johnson realized that DNC+RINO had an inevitable win in hand, did he go to Mar-a-Lago. Clearly the worst option was losing the Speakership. It would result in legislation declaring Trump an ineligible insurrectionist. Please answer this question directly:

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  1042. @Derer
    @Matra


    (Eastern Europeans) incapable of upholding basic Western standards of behaviour
     
    Please defined the "Western standards of behaviour". Is it 27,000 murders a year? The post-war European influx is dying out and is replaced by the culture of drugs and violence.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Please defined the “Western standards of behaviour”. Is it 27,000 murders a year? The post-war European influx is dying out and is replaced by the culture of drugs and violence.

    Is that a crude US + EU total without breaking down by race?

    Blacks commit most homicides in the US and it’s actually undercounted as a dead body in Detroit is still classified as having an assailant of unknown race.

    But with that said I am no fan of US culture. I however don’t see that as a reason to support a mass murdering dwarf and his totalitarian state that has an abortion rate that exceeds any EU country.

    I’m really not a fan of this idea that you can abort your child because you are ready to have sex but not the natural consequences. Russia however has a 20 year history of supporting abortion as birth control. Putin only tightened the abortion laws after the invasion. He declared that women need to have more kids to support the state. Funny how that only became a value after he started sending their sons to the front.

  1043. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective

    In Russian the foundation pit is one word, “kotlovan”. It only means what you dig for a foundation of a building, nothing else. BTW, trench in Russian is also “okop”, and this word has no other meaning. A hole in the ground of any provenance is “yama”, dug out animal burrow is “nora”. So, none of the words you mention is quite equivalent to “kotlovan”. One of the messages was that they dig out “kotlovan” not knowing what building it is supposed to be for. That’s one of Kafkaesque aspects of that novel.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Gerard1234

    In Russian the foundation pit is one word, “kotlovan”. It only means what you dig for a foundation of a building, nothing else

    .

    Then in Polish there is no direct, one word translation, only descriptive one like “wykop pod fundamenty”.You could also say “dół pod fundamenty”, but in terms of translation “wykop pod fundamenty” is closer. “Dół” has a kind of negative overtone, that someone doesn’t really care, whereas “wykop” is neutral. But it is stylistic.

    In Polish “jama” means something cave-like, with “nora” being “jama” dug out by animal.

    “Dół” is something open, like a hole in the ground.

  1044. @Bashibuzuk
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    The funniest thing to do would be to question the most probable ethnic background of the Ashkenazim maternal bloodlines.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    Around 80% non Semitic or even Middle Eastern?

    😋

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    It is straw man. We take a false standard (maternal lineage) and claim something true is false on the account of our false standard.

    It doesn’t really matter since paternal lines seem to come from Levant, and Judaism is paternal in the Bible, and that counts, not the later attempts at delegitimizing Askhenazi Jews as Jews conducted by Phoenician interests who took over Judaism and introduced matrilineality

    with the MSY results interpreted plausibly to suggest an overwhelming majority of Near Eastern ancestry on the Ashkenazi male line of descent

    Just ask yourself why these attempts at framing Askhenazi Jews as false Jews concern only them among Jews.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Just ask yourself why these attempts at framing Askhenazi Jews as false Jews concern only them among Jews.
     
    Because they have been the brain of the Bolshevik and the Neocon takeover, right?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    introduced matrilineality
     
    Before DNA tests matrilineally was practical: the mother is known, whereas the father is only known to the mother (if that).

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  1045. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    commies were internationalists and supported national cultures.
     
    Commies were internationalists to a fault. They has an equivalent of affirmative action in Moscow State University. We had entrance exams, and in my year there were 13 applicants per place in biology, so the acceptance rate for those entering by an honest route was pretty low. The republics had quotas and selected students to fill these quotas themselves (this was called ‘nazionalny nabor” (national path)). Most of their picks were not nearly qualified, and the rest of the education process was honest. So, they failed the first set of exams (we had sets of exams twice a year, in December and in May) and left (thank goodness for that).

    The Westies like not any kind of lies, only lies matching their propaganda. That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well. I am proud to say that I never used those easy paths, never told any lies about the Soviet system, got an honest job in the US from the beginning and never got anything unearned in 30+ years. I am also proud to say that I never belonged to any political party in the USSR or the US. In terms of dishonesty political parties can easily compete with MSM and churches, beat used car salesmen hands down.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Coconuts

    That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well.

    The Russian version of my first name sounds typically Jewish and if you transliterate my British surname directly into Russian it also sounds Jewish. I remember the challenges this caused registering a birth in Belarus. My wife was saying that the baby can’t have that patronymic and surname, it will be disadvantaged in life and the situation would be bizarre given we both have no known Jewish ancestry.

    I observed that generally Belarusians didn’t have the same kind of Holocaust religion as existed in the Anglosphere at that time. It seems like it was never promoted during the Soviet era either. Iirc around the same period I was reading Zemmour’s book Le Suicide français, that was the first time I had seen any discussion of the central place the Holocaust held in culture and the way this was related to US/Israeli influence in a relatively mainstream book.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Coconuts


    My wife was saying that the baby can’t have that patronymic and surname, it will be disadvantaged in life and the situation would be bizarre given we both have no known Jewish ancestry.
     
    Many Belorussian and Polish last names sound kind of Jewish in Russian. In the USSR I knew quite a few real Jews claiming to be Belorussians.

    There certainly were antisemites in the USSR, but their percentage in the population was not different from that in any Western country. The official communist ideology was that all nations are equal. Nonetheless in the USSR people of Jewish and Armenian ancestry were excluded from the top brass in the military, police, and KGB. In sciences and arts Jews were heavily over-represented. Yet the myth that Jews were excluded from this or that was pretty widespread in the population. I remember a reunion of the biology graduates of Moscow State (it was the best and most prestigious university in the USSR) here in the US a few years back. One guy said that Jews were not accepted in Moscow State, even though among 50-60 graduates present at least 30 were Jews or half-Jews. But many people prefer to believe myths even when they directly contradict the reality.
    , @Derer
    @Coconuts


    my British surname directly into Russian it also sounds Jewish.
     
    KOKOCbI does not sound Jewish.
  1046. A123 says: • Website
    @John Johnson
    @A123

    As I have said many, many, many times — The best way to create change in DC is simultaneous MAGA control the Presidency, House, and Senate. Undermining that by supporting Leftoid, anti-MAGA RFKjr is a self destructive position on your part.

    You do realize that Johnson held out for 6 months on Ukraine aid until he met with Trump at Mar-a-lago?

    Then "by chance" Johnson shows up 2 weeks later with a massive bill for Ukraine, Israel aid and goodies for the US defense industry? Including the ATACMs and HIMARs missiles that Ukraine requested?

    Replies: @A123

    You do realize that Trump had been opposing Ukraine funding long before Johnson became Speaker?

    Only AFTER Johnson realized that DNC+RINO had an inevitable win in hand, did he go to Mar-a-Lago. Clearly the worst option was losing the Speakership. It would result in legislation declaring Trump an ineligible insurrectionist. Please answer this question directly:

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    You do realize that Trump had been opposing Ukraine funding long before Johnson became Speaker?

    Trump is not in office and his actual positions are separate from his political strategy.

    No one knows his real opinions on Ukraine just as we don't know his real opinion on the border.

    We do know that he met with Johnson at his mansion and this bill appeared two weeks later.

    Only AFTER Johnson realized that DNC+RINO had an inevitable win in hand, did he go to Mar-a-Lago. Clearly the worst option was losing the Speakership. It would result in legislation declaring Trump an ineligible insurrectionist.

    Johnson was never forced to bring this bill.

    There was actually another option which was to fund Ukraine without the pay-offs. He could simply allow a vote on all pending bills instead of trying to suppress our democratic system with poor excuses. The only vote he would allow was his 14.5 billion dollar check to Israel. America First....or second I guess....maybe third after corporate interests.

    I am glad the bill passed but it is loaded with porky pay-offs. Him and Trump must have spent a lot of time in the pool trying to figure out who gets a cut of the cheese. Another fine move by the swamp drainer.

    It would result in legislation declaring Trump an ineligible insurrectionist.

    I've never heard of such a proposal and it isn't a crime to consult with the House speaker. There was however talk of circumventing Johnson through a special procedure.

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    I don't think Trump wants to get rid of Johnson. It was Johnson that backed off on the border deal after a phone call from Trump. Speaker Johnson has proven himself to be a dedicated and reliable lackey.

    I also don't see the point in speculating on either Trump or Biden as president. I'm not going to give the election much thought until September.

  1047. @Derer
    @Bashibuzuk


    ...Mussolini was basically a nice guy.
     
    When dealing with such a race as Slavic - inferior and barbarian - we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy ... We should not be afraid of new victims ... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps ... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians ...
    —Benito Mussolini, speech held in Pula, 20 September 1920

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    And that is probably why (((Solovyov))) said that uncle Benito was a nice guy. After all (((Solovyov))) also applauds the needless waste of Slavic lives in the idiotic Ukraine war.

  1048. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Beckow
    @songbird


    ...about 2-3% of Ashkenazi maternal lineages seem to possibly have a Chinese origin.
     
    It could be Huns, Mongol and other steppe raiders from the far east. There had to be some women along for the plunder, camp followers, concubines, cooks, etc...

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    The area that Khazars ended up settling along the Volga was the exactly same area where the Attila’s Huns ended up vanishing. Coincidence?

    Also we have to keep in mind that only a part of the Khazarian elite converted to Judaism, the overall population of the Khaganate was religiously and ethically very diverse. The Khazar commoners were just a backbone upon which the Judaic elite built its power after a bloody and merciless civil war.

    An interesting twist is that after the downfall of the Khaganate under the Rus attacks, some of the Khazar elite members settled in Kiev. Prince Vladimir Svyatoslavich’s mother Malka might have been a Khazar. Her brother, Dobrynya (Vladimir’s maternal uncle) was later tasked with converting the pagan Rus to Christianity in Novgorodand he went to do that with a very heavy hand.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Bashibuzuk

    To be fair to Benito, he seems to have been talking about Slavic-speaking Balkan peoples and not real Slavs.

    Though Solovyov probably doesn't care about the distinction.

    Replies: @Derer

  1049. Bashibuzuk says:
    @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Curiously, about 2-3% of Ashkenazi maternal lineages seem to possibly have a Chinese origin. Tempting to attribute it to slaves brought along the Silk Road. But I suppose it might be something Turkic.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Bashibuzuk

    The Khazar Khaganate was basically a pseudo-ethnic Radhanites business venture controlling one of the key links in the terrestrial Silk Road. It had an immense economic impact at the time when the maritime Silk Road went extinct after the Islamic conquest of the Middle East and Central Asia. In the 8th century AD, the Radhanites were the only merchant guild capable of trading all the way between the former Western Roman Empire, China and India. In Carolingian territory, the Rahdanite enjoyed aristocratic privileges. In some Frankish documents of the time, the word Jew is used to describe a long distance merchant in general. And yeah, the Rahdanites were ruthless slave-traders, mostly selling Slavs (hence the words esclave in French, saqlab in Arabic and of course slave in English), but probably other ethnicities too.

    • Thanks: songbird
  1050. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    It is straw man. We take a false standard (maternal lineage) and claim something true is false on the account of our false standard.

    It doesn't really matter since paternal lines seem to come from Levant, and Judaism is paternal in the Bible, and that counts, not the later attempts at delegitimizing Askhenazi Jews as Jews conducted by Phoenician interests who took over Judaism and introduced matrilineality

    with the MSY results interpreted plausibly to suggest an overwhelming majority of Near Eastern ancestry on the Ashkenazi male line of descent

    Just ask yourself why these attempts at framing Askhenazi Jews as false Jews concern only them among Jews.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN

    Just ask yourself why these attempts at framing Askhenazi Jews as false Jews concern only them among Jews.

    Because they have been the brain of the Bolshevik and the Neocon takeover, right?

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    Well, that could be one of the reasons.

    But isn't it all strange that Sephardi are never touched? Not even really by Holocaust. Shouldn't you ask why? Why it is always Askhenazi, not just Jews.
    Anyway, it was Sephardi Moses Montefiore who started organized Jewish settlements in Palestine.

    It was also Sephardim who were the greatest groupies of Sabbatai Zevi, and Jacob Frank was actually Sephardi too. Frank was a nickname given by Askheanzim to Sepahrdim. So, both Sabbatai and Frank were Sephardi. No one cares.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  1051. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective

    In Russian the foundation pit is one word, “kotlovan”. It only means what you dig for a foundation of a building, nothing else. BTW, trench in Russian is also “okop”, and this word has no other meaning. A hole in the ground of any provenance is “yama”, dug out animal burrow is “nora”. So, none of the words you mention is quite equivalent to “kotlovan”. One of the messages was that they dig out “kotlovan” not knowing what building it is supposed to be for. That’s one of Kafkaesque aspects of that novel.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Gerard1234

    In Russian the foundation pit is one word, “kotlovan”

    Derivative of Kotl (cauldron) or vice versa? In Muslim/desert countries now they dig out a pit from the sand to cook the food. In countries all over the world in history they dig a pit from the soil , throw some stones or rocks down, light the fire and cook the food – so maybe that is the root.

    Stuff like the “vykop”, “okop” – that’s one of the main pathetic things of ukrop – playing with the prefix, za, o, vy etc for a word so that it doesn’t match the Russian. All very artificial. If the Polish word is different to the Russian then they go to the Polish equivalent word as the mova one. If the Polish and Russian word are the same then they go to the Tatar, English….Swahili or whatever equivalent.

  1052. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    I remember vividly getting a glossy brochure when I was a student and being surprised how little Russian stuff was promoted in the Soviet Union publication. No Tolstoy. No Tchaichovsky. No Landau Lifshitz course in theoretical Physics. Huge numbers for Uzbeks and Tajiks and Georgians and colorful local costumed people from out in the badlands. The most Russian thing in it seemed to be the Cosmonauts and the space part.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Wielgus

    how little Russian stuff was promoted in the Soviet Union publication. No Tolstoy. No Tchaichovsky.

    I guess Soviet propagandists expected Westerners to be brainless libtards. They were a few decades ahead of times.

    Inside the USSR Tolstoy, Pushkin, Tchaikovsky, and many other greats were officially revered (along with some politically correct second- and third-rate people like Gorky or Shevchenko). Books by Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Pushkin, Lermontov, Chekhov were printed, but not in sufficient numbers, so they were hard to get. Funny enough, you could get those high-demand books through regional party committees, even though party big shots were unlikely to read them. Enterprising second- and third-tier party bureaucrats bought them and resold at a tidy profit to normal people.

    Don’t know much about physics: I am a biologist, we had only pretty rudimentary physics and math courses at the university.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    It's still in print!

    https://www.amazon.com/Mechanics-Course-Theoretical-Physics-Landau/dp/0750628960

    There are 10 volumes although Professor Landau is only the author on 6 of them.

    , @Jazman
    @AnonfromTN

    "Don’t know much about physics: I am a biologist, we had only pretty rudimentary physics and math courses at the university"

    I believe even rudimentary physics and math was not easy piece of cake :)
    When I studied Kinesiology and Biomechanics I got Soviet plan and program at university level and it was mind blowing .

  1053. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    It is straw man. We take a false standard (maternal lineage) and claim something true is false on the account of our false standard.

    It doesn't really matter since paternal lines seem to come from Levant, and Judaism is paternal in the Bible, and that counts, not the later attempts at delegitimizing Askhenazi Jews as Jews conducted by Phoenician interests who took over Judaism and introduced matrilineality

    with the MSY results interpreted plausibly to suggest an overwhelming majority of Near Eastern ancestry on the Ashkenazi male line of descent

    Just ask yourself why these attempts at framing Askhenazi Jews as false Jews concern only them among Jews.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AnonfromTN

    introduced matrilineality

    Before DNA tests matrilineally was practical: the mother is known, whereas the father is only known to the mother (if that).

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    It is what rabbis says, "because Roman rapes". However, no other nationality did it. If anything, it could be a stop-gap measure for a couple of years, not for eternity.
    If anything, BOTH parents should be Jewish in such a situation. Why to favour Roman soldiers?

    Besides, it is clear transgression of the Bible. Biblical Judaism is clearly patrilineal religion in which women do not count much.


    It is much more logical to notice that maybe matrilineal converts, Carthaginians and cousins, took over Judaism

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  1054. @Bashibuzuk
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Just ask yourself why these attempts at framing Askhenazi Jews as false Jews concern only them among Jews.
     
    Because they have been the brain of the Bolshevik and the Neocon takeover, right?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Well, that could be one of the reasons.

    But isn’t it all strange that Sephardi are never touched? Not even really by Holocaust. Shouldn’t you ask why? Why it is always Askhenazi, not just Jews.
    Anyway, it was Sephardi Moses Montefiore who started organized Jewish settlements in Palestine.

    It was also Sephardim who were the greatest groupies of Sabbatai Zevi, and Jacob Frank was actually Sephardi too. Frank was a nickname given by Askheanzim to Sepahrdim. So, both Sabbatai and Frank were Sephardi. No one cares.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Do they cover Sabbati Zevi in school in Poland today? You might think they would if only because it's one of the five topics in history that students wouldn't snooze through.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  1055. @Coconuts
    @AnonfromTN


    That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well.
     
    The Russian version of my first name sounds typically Jewish and if you transliterate my British surname directly into Russian it also sounds Jewish. I remember the challenges this caused registering a birth in Belarus. My wife was saying that the baby can't have that patronymic and surname, it will be disadvantaged in life and the situation would be bizarre given we both have no known Jewish ancestry.

    I observed that generally Belarusians didn't have the same kind of Holocaust religion as existed in the Anglosphere at that time. It seems like it was never promoted during the Soviet era either. Iirc around the same period I was reading Zemmour's book Le Suicide français, that was the first time I had seen any discussion of the central place the Holocaust held in culture and the way this was related to US/Israeli influence in a relatively mainstream book.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer

    My wife was saying that the baby can’t have that patronymic and surname, it will be disadvantaged in life and the situation would be bizarre given we both have no known Jewish ancestry.

    Many Belorussian and Polish last names sound kind of Jewish in Russian. In the USSR I knew quite a few real Jews claiming to be Belorussians.

    There certainly were antisemites in the USSR, but their percentage in the population was not different from that in any Western country. The official communist ideology was that all nations are equal. Nonetheless in the USSR people of Jewish and Armenian ancestry were excluded from the top brass in the military, police, and KGB. In sciences and arts Jews were heavily over-represented. Yet the myth that Jews were excluded from this or that was pretty widespread in the population. I remember a reunion of the biology graduates of Moscow State (it was the best and most prestigious university in the USSR) here in the US a few years back. One guy said that Jews were not accepted in Moscow State, even though among 50-60 graduates present at least 30 were Jews or half-Jews. But many people prefer to believe myths even when they directly contradict the reality.

  1056. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    introduced matrilineality
     
    Before DNA tests matrilineally was practical: the mother is known, whereas the father is only known to the mother (if that).

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    It is what rabbis says, “because Roman rapes”. However, no other nationality did it. If anything, it could be a stop-gap measure for a couple of years, not for eternity.
    If anything, BOTH parents should be Jewish in such a situation. Why to favour Roman soldiers?

    Besides, it is clear transgression of the Bible. Biblical Judaism is clearly patrilineal religion in which women do not count much.

    It is much more logical to notice that maybe matrilineal converts, Carthaginians and cousins, took over Judaism

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    In matrilineality (or "every child counts") you can already see the future mindset of rabbinical Judaism "every Jewish life counts". I would bet that this mindset finally produced Dawkins "Selfish gene" concept.
    This is not the mindset of the Bible, where righteous Jews count, otherwise Jews are falling left and right, often from the hand of God.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  1057. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    how little Russian stuff was promoted in the Soviet Union publication. No Tolstoy. No Tchaichovsky.
     
    I guess Soviet propagandists expected Westerners to be brainless libtards. They were a few decades ahead of times.

    Inside the USSR Tolstoy, Pushkin, Tchaikovsky, and many other greats were officially revered (along with some politically correct second- and third-rate people like Gorky or Shevchenko). Books by Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Pushkin, Lermontov, Chekhov were printed, but not in sufficient numbers, so they were hard to get. Funny enough, you could get those high-demand books through regional party committees, even though party big shots were unlikely to read them. Enterprising second- and third-tier party bureaucrats bought them and resold at a tidy profit to normal people.

    Don’t know much about physics: I am a biologist, we had only pretty rudimentary physics and math courses at the university.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Jazman

    It’s still in print!

    There are 10 volumes although Professor Landau is only the author on 6 of them.

  1058. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN

    It is what rabbis says, "because Roman rapes". However, no other nationality did it. If anything, it could be a stop-gap measure for a couple of years, not for eternity.
    If anything, BOTH parents should be Jewish in such a situation. Why to favour Roman soldiers?

    Besides, it is clear transgression of the Bible. Biblical Judaism is clearly patrilineal religion in which women do not count much.


    It is much more logical to notice that maybe matrilineal converts, Carthaginians and cousins, took over Judaism

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    In matrilineality (or “every child counts”) you can already see the future mindset of rabbinical Judaism “every Jewish life counts”. I would bet that this mindset finally produced Dawkins “Selfish gene” concept.
    This is not the mindset of the Bible, where righteous Jews count, otherwise Jews are falling left and right, often from the hand of God.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Another Polish Perspective

    You are right about the Punic mass conversion to Judaism after the fall of Carthage. The Spanish and Maghrebi Jewry was most probably substantially of Punic and Berber descent. The Berber were also quite matrilineal before the advent of Abrahamic religions. See Kahina (which was described by the Muslim invaders as being a “Jewish priestess” as if such a thing was possible in Judaism) and closer to our times Tin Hinan (in which tomb a votive mother goddess was discovered) for example.

    https://collections.peabody.harvard.edu/objects/details/660300

    You might be onto something here…

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  1059. @Bashibuzuk
    @Beckow

    The area that Khazars ended up settling along the Volga was the exactly same area where the Attila’s Huns ended up vanishing. Coincidence?

    Also we have to keep in mind that only a part of the Khazarian elite converted to Judaism, the overall population of the Khaganate was religiously and ethically very diverse. The Khazar commoners were just a backbone upon which the Judaic elite built its power after a bloody and merciless civil war.

    An interesting twist is that after the downfall of the Khaganate under the Rus attacks, some of the Khazar elite members settled in Kiev. Prince Vladimir Svyatoslavich’s mother Malka might have been a Khazar. Her brother, Dobrynya (Vladimir’s maternal uncle) was later tasked with converting the pagan Rus to Christianity in Novgorodand he went to do that with a very heavy hand.

    Replies: @AP

    To be fair to Benito, he seems to have been talking about Slavic-speaking Balkan peoples and not real Slavs.

    Though Solovyov probably doesn’t care about the distinction.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @Derer
    @AP

    AP...how can you deduce from "Slavic – inferior and barbarian", not referring to real Slavs. So, all these anti-Russian sentiments on these pages are not really against Russians.

  1060. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    Bulgakov is Russian. Kiev is Russian . Ukrainian is actually Russian. Ukrainians are Russians.
     
    So you claim that "Ukrainians" are also Russians.

    But you stated that KGB chief Semichastny was a Ukrainian.

    He was born in Ukraine to Russian parents who came to Ukraine from Tula.

    So if he was a Ukrainian, then by your logic so was Mikhail Bulgakov who was born in Kiev to a Russian family.

    So once again answer the question: if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?

    Don't weasel yourself out of it by claiming Ukrainians are Russians. Just answer the question directly. Either both are Russians or both are Ukrainians. Be consistent in your stupidity.

    Reading Bulgakov is reading Russian world, Russian culture, Russian language at it’s best.
     
    I enjoy his creation Sharikov. Sharikov is a perfect representation of Soviet Man -people like you.

    Chebrikov, Semichastny, Fedorchuk
     
    So, to review:

    Unless Bulgakov is a Ukrainian (he is not), then only one of those three, Fedorchuk, is a Ukrainian.

    Chebrikov is a Russian surname and he was born in Yekaterynoslav in 1923. At that time, the population of that city was only about 30% Ukrainian. It was mostly Russians and Jews.

    Semichastny's parents moved to Ukraine from Tula, which borders Moscow province, in Russia.

    You have demonstrated that you have no idea who is a Russian or who is a Ukrainian. No need to address the rest of your nonsense.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    So you claim that “Ukrainians” are also Russians.

    But you stated that KGB chief Semichastny was a Ukrainian.

    There is the” Ukrainians are Russians” fact, or there is the “Ukrainians are separate from Russians” lie/psychiatric illness that Galicians smuggled into North America in 1940s/50s scum need to argue to justify their shithole existence ( and claim as their own a million things that have nothing to do with them) plus invent some “Ukrops were repressed” idiotic BS. Clearly to disprove the nonsense “Ukrops repressed” I can just point to the abundance of those by ethnicity or nationality.

    If you go on the fake “ethnicity” argument……you lose extremely easily because of the abudance of ethnic “Ukrainians” in Russia or in Ukraine that serve Russia now or served USSR at the very top , or millions of people who spoke , married, spoke, thought of themselves as Russian.

    If you go on “nationality” line……..then the same thing.
    It’s amusing, like a magic trick where the magician asks you to select something, do a million things and then he reveals he knows what you picked…….as the whole process has been rigged to him him the card or whatever that he wanted.

    So once again answer the question: if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?

    WTF is there to answer? The name Semichastny could very easily have ( what is now) Ukrop origins, He was Ukrop, he thought he was Ukrop, most importantly everybody in USSR at the time thought he was “Ukrainian”. Exact same thing with Chebrikov.

    Bulgakov thought he was Russian, was culturally Russian, was from the most Russian of Russian cities, hilariously – like everyone else in Kiev and the rest of Ukraine…..he couldn’t understand WTF language Petliura’s freaks were talking about during their brief and failed invasion and occupation , he is a Russian icon. If he was alive now he would be arrested, probably killed, by the Ukronazi regime. And LOL – streets with his name renamed, taken off education, books banned from reprinting, monuments taken down of him in 404 but in Russia it’s the complete opposite.
    So it is hilarious the ridiculous nonsense you are trying to argue.

    Claiming he isn’t Russian would be as demented as claiming the Atlantic Ocean doesn’t have water in it.

    Chebrikov is a Russian

    Don’t think so at all. Especially not until somebody can explain the root of that name.

    I enjoy his creation Sharikov. Sharikov is a perfect representation of Soviet Man -people like you.

    I am proud of the Soviet and Tsarist elements of my culture and history, why wouldn’t I be, LOL. Same thing applies to Sikorsky of course.

    The rest of your post is just more autistic nonsense.

    Just to repeat the partial list again of those all in power at the same time during the 1980’s, LMAO:

    Leader of USSR, Heads of KGB, Defence Minister, Interior Minister, Chief Prosecutor, Head of Mosfilm, Head of Space Program (Glushko), Chief Serial murderer (Chikatilo), Admiral of Navy, Marshall of VVS ( now VKS) ,Ivashustin – Head of GRU, Manager of USSR football team, President of Academy of Sciences

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    If you go on the fake “ethnicity” argument……you lose extremely easily because of the abudance of ethnic “Ukrainians” in Russia or in Ukraine that serve Russia
     
    But the examples yo chose such as Semichastny were ethic Russians from Russia.

    If he was a Ukrainian, then so was Bulgakov.

    So once again answer the question: if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?

    WTF is there to answer?
     
    It's in plainly written English.

    You may have forgotten your Russian, but should be able to read English.

    The name Semichastny could very easily have ( what is now) Ukrop origins
     
    His parents were from Tula and moved to Ukraine from there. Tula is deep in Russia, next to Moscow.

    he thought he was Ukrop
     
    Any evidence of his thinking of himself as an ethnic Ukrainian?

    most importantly everybody in USSR at the time thought he was “Ukrainian”
     
    This is what Russian wiki writes. Do you still remember how to read Russian?

    Отец Ефим Кириллович и мать Домна Ивановна Семичастные были крестьянами Тульской губернии. Они поженились очень молодыми и вскоре после свадьбы уехали на юг России на заработки

    So because you are inadequate, I will have to repeat the question yet again. Let's see if you are capable of answering.

    if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?

    Bulgakov thought he was Russian, was culturally Russian, was from the most Russian of Russian cities

     

    In 1919, Kiev was 42% Russian, 24% Ukrainian, 21% Jewish, and 7% Polish.

    You have a strange idea of "most Russian city."

    he [Bulgakov] couldn’t understand WTF language Petliura’s freaks were talking about
     
    Although he was amused by the Ukrainian language and gently mocked it, he was capable of writing in Ukrainian.

    Claiming he isn’t Russian would be as demented as claiming the Atlantic Ocean doesn’t have water in it.
     
    But you claim the same about Semichastny. Which is "as demented as claiming the Atlantic Ocean doesn’t have water in it."

    Chebrikov is a Russian

    Don’t think so at all. Especially not until somebody can explain the root of that name.
     
    That surname is more common in Russia than anywhere else in the world:

    https://forebears.io/surnames/chebrikov

    This is what Russia says about him. Hopefully you can still read Russian?

    http://www.hrono.ru/biograf/bio_ch/chebrikov.html

    Чебриков Виктор Михайлович (р. 27.04.1923),
    член партии с 1944 г., член ЦК с 1981 г. (кандидат с 1971 г.), член Политбюро ЦК 23.04.85-20.09.89 гг. (кандидат с 26.12.83 г.), секретарь ЦК 30.09.88-20.09.89 гг.
    Родился в Днепропетровске. Русский.

    So to summarize: you claimed 3 KGB chiefs were Ukrainian, when only 1 was.

    That's about how accurate you are when describing ethnicity.

    I enjoy his creation Sharikov. Sharikov is a perfect representation of Soviet Man -people like you.

    I am proud of the Soviet and Tsarist elements of my culture and history, why wouldn’t I be, LOL
     
    You are a Sharikov who has little in common with pre-Soviet Russian culture that your creators destroyed. You are a Soviet product. As evident in your frequent coprolalia.

    Just to repeat the partial list again of those all in power at the same time during the 1980’s
     
    Your list includes people who are as "Ukrainian" as Bulgakov, Chebrikov, or Semichastny. Or even less so.
  1061. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    Well, that could be one of the reasons.

    But isn't it all strange that Sephardi are never touched? Not even really by Holocaust. Shouldn't you ask why? Why it is always Askhenazi, not just Jews.
    Anyway, it was Sephardi Moses Montefiore who started organized Jewish settlements in Palestine.

    It was also Sephardim who were the greatest groupies of Sabbatai Zevi, and Jacob Frank was actually Sephardi too. Frank was a nickname given by Askheanzim to Sepahrdim. So, both Sabbatai and Frank were Sephardi. No one cares.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Do they cover Sabbati Zevi in school in Poland today? You might think they would if only because it’s one of the five topics in history that students wouldn’t snooze through.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    No, not really. If they did, they would start with Jacob Frank. But they are axing schools program left and right, recently they abolished homework duty for lower classes!

  1062. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Do they cover Sabbati Zevi in school in Poland today? You might think they would if only because it's one of the five topics in history that students wouldn't snooze through.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    No, not really. If they did, they would start with Jacob Frank. But they are axing schools program left and right, recently they abolished homework duty for lower classes!

  1063. AP says:
    @Gerard1234
    @AP


    So you claim that “Ukrainians” are also Russians.

    But you stated that KGB chief Semichastny was a Ukrainian.

     

    There is the" Ukrainians are Russians" fact, or there is the "Ukrainians are separate from Russians" lie/psychiatric illness that Galicians smuggled into North America in 1940s/50s scum need to argue to justify their shithole existence ( and claim as their own a million things that have nothing to do with them) plus invent some "Ukrops were repressed" idiotic BS. Clearly to disprove the nonsense "Ukrops repressed" I can just point to the abundance of those by ethnicity or nationality.

    If you go on the fake "ethnicity" argument......you lose extremely easily because of the abudance of ethnic "Ukrainians" in Russia or in Ukraine that serve Russia now or served USSR at the very top , or millions of people who spoke , married, spoke, thought of themselves as Russian.

    If you go on "nationality" line........then the same thing.
    It's amusing, like a magic trick where the magician asks you to select something, do a million things and then he reveals he knows what you picked.......as the whole process has been rigged to him him the card or whatever that he wanted.

    So once again answer the question: if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?
     
    WTF is there to answer? The name Semichastny could very easily have ( what is now) Ukrop origins, He was Ukrop, he thought he was Ukrop, most importantly everybody in USSR at the time thought he was "Ukrainian". Exact same thing with Chebrikov.

    Bulgakov thought he was Russian, was culturally Russian, was from the most Russian of Russian cities, hilariously - like everyone else in Kiev and the rest of Ukraine.....he couldn't understand WTF language Petliura's freaks were talking about during their brief and failed invasion and occupation , he is a Russian icon. If he was alive now he would be arrested, probably killed, by the Ukronazi regime. And LOL - streets with his name renamed, taken off education, books banned from reprinting, monuments taken down of him in 404 but in Russia it's the complete opposite.
    So it is hilarious the ridiculous nonsense you are trying to argue.

    Claiming he isn't Russian would be as demented as claiming the Atlantic Ocean doesn't have water in it.

    Chebrikov is a Russian
     
    Don't think so at all. Especially not until somebody can explain the root of that name.

    I enjoy his creation Sharikov. Sharikov is a perfect representation of Soviet Man -people like you.
     
    I am proud of the Soviet and Tsarist elements of my culture and history, why wouldn't I be, LOL. Same thing applies to Sikorsky of course.

    The rest of your post is just more autistic nonsense.

    Just to repeat the partial list again of those all in power at the same time during the 1980's, LMAO:

    Leader of USSR, Heads of KGB, Defence Minister, Interior Minister, Chief Prosecutor, Head of Mosfilm, Head of Space Program (Glushko), Chief Serial murderer (Chikatilo), Admiral of Navy, Marshall of VVS ( now VKS) ,Ivashustin – Head of GRU, Manager of USSR football team, President of Academy of Sciences

    Replies: @AP

    If you go on the fake “ethnicity” argument……you lose extremely easily because of the abudance of ethnic “Ukrainians” in Russia or in Ukraine that serve Russia

    But the examples yo chose such as Semichastny were ethic Russians from Russia.

    If he was a Ukrainian, then so was Bulgakov.

    So once again answer the question: if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?

    WTF is there to answer?

    It’s in plainly written English.

    You may have forgotten your Russian, but should be able to read English.

    The name Semichastny could very easily have ( what is now) Ukrop origins

    His parents were from Tula and moved to Ukraine from there. Tula is deep in Russia, next to Moscow.

    he thought he was Ukrop

    Any evidence of his thinking of himself as an ethnic Ukrainian?

    most importantly everybody in USSR at the time thought he was “Ukrainian”

    This is what Russian wiki writes. Do you still remember how to read Russian?

    Отец Ефим Кириллович и мать Домна Ивановна Семичастные были крестьянами Тульской губернии. Они поженились очень молодыми и вскоре после свадьбы уехали на юг России на заработки

    So because you are inadequate, I will have to repeat the question yet again. Let’s see if you are capable of answering.

    if KGB chief Semichastny (born in Ukraine to Russian parents) was a Ukrainian, was Bulgakov also a Ukrainian?

    Bulgakov thought he was Russian, was culturally Russian, was from the most Russian of Russian cities

    In 1919, Kiev was 42% Russian, 24% Ukrainian, 21% Jewish, and 7% Polish.

    You have a strange idea of “most Russian city.”

    he [Bulgakov] couldn’t understand WTF language Petliura’s freaks were talking about

    Although he was amused by the Ukrainian language and gently mocked it, he was capable of writing in Ukrainian.

    Claiming he isn’t Russian would be as demented as claiming the Atlantic Ocean doesn’t have water in it.

    But you claim the same about Semichastny. Which is “as demented as claiming the Atlantic Ocean doesn’t have water in it.”

    Chebrikov is a Russian

    Don’t think so at all. Especially not until somebody can explain the root of that name.

    That surname is more common in Russia than anywhere else in the world:

    https://forebears.io/surnames/chebrikov

    This is what Russia says about him. Hopefully you can still read Russian?

    http://www.hrono.ru/biograf/bio_ch/chebrikov.html

    Чебриков Виктор Михайлович (р. 27.04.1923),
    член партии с 1944 г., член ЦК с 1981 г. (кандидат с 1971 г.), член Политбюро ЦК 23.04.85-20.09.89 гг. (кандидат с 26.12.83 г.), секретарь ЦК 30.09.88-20.09.89 гг.
    Родился в Днепропетровске. Русский.

    So to summarize: you claimed 3 KGB chiefs were Ukrainian, when only 1 was.

    That’s about how accurate you are when describing ethnicity.

    I enjoy his creation Sharikov. Sharikov is a perfect representation of Soviet Man -people like you.

    I am proud of the Soviet and Tsarist elements of my culture and history, why wouldn’t I be, LOL

    You are a Sharikov who has little in common with pre-Soviet Russian culture that your creators destroyed. You are a Soviet product. As evident in your frequent coprolalia.

    Just to repeat the partial list again of those all in power at the same time during the 1980’s

    Your list includes people who are as “Ukrainian” as Bulgakov, Chebrikov, or Semichastny. Or even less so.

  1064. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    I remember vividly getting a glossy brochure when I was a student and being surprised how little Russian stuff was promoted in the Soviet Union publication. No Tolstoy. No Tchaichovsky. No Landau Lifshitz course in theoretical Physics. Huge numbers for Uzbeks and Tajiks and Georgians and colorful local costumed people from out in the badlands. The most Russian thing in it seemed to be the Cosmonauts and the space part.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Wielgus

    The Soviet Union was accused of holding down and oppressing minorities and I suspect much of their propaganda aimed at countering this. I remember buying an issue of the picture magazine Ogonyok (“Little Flame”) which had on the front cover a photo of a young Turkmen woman who was in charge of an oil drill in the Turkmen SSR.

  1065. @A123
    @John Johnson

    You do realize that Trump had been opposing Ukraine funding long before Johnson became Speaker?

    Only AFTER Johnson realized that DNC+RINO had an inevitable win in hand, did he go to Mar-a-Lago. Clearly the worst option was losing the Speakership. It would result in legislation declaring Trump an ineligible insurrectionist. Please answer this question directly:

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    You do realize that Trump had been opposing Ukraine funding long before Johnson became Speaker?

    Trump is not in office and his actual positions are separate from his political strategy.

    No one knows his real opinions on Ukraine just as we don’t know his real opinion on the border.

    We do know that he met with Johnson at his mansion and this bill appeared two weeks later.

    Only AFTER Johnson realized that DNC+RINO had an inevitable win in hand, did he go to Mar-a-Lago. Clearly the worst option was losing the Speakership. It would result in legislation declaring Trump an ineligible insurrectionist.

    Johnson was never forced to bring this bill.

    There was actually another option which was to fund Ukraine without the pay-offs. He could simply allow a vote on all pending bills instead of trying to suppress our democratic system with poor excuses. The only vote he would allow was his 14.5 billion dollar check to Israel. America First….or second I guess….maybe third after corporate interests.

    I am glad the bill passed but it is loaded with porky pay-offs. Him and Trump must have spent a lot of time in the pool trying to figure out who gets a cut of the cheese. Another fine move by the swamp drainer.

    It would result in legislation declaring Trump an ineligible insurrectionist.

    I’ve never heard of such a proposal and it isn’t a crime to consult with the House speaker. There was however talk of circumventing Johnson through a special procedure.

    How exactly do you propose that Trump get rid of Johnson without being ejected from the Presidential race?

    I don’t think Trump wants to get rid of Johnson. It was Johnson that backed off on the border deal after a phone call from Trump. Speaker Johnson has proven himself to be a dedicated and reliable lackey.

    I also don’t see the point in speculating on either Trump or Biden as president. I’m not going to give the election much thought until September.

  1066. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ljy5lcmwQXQ

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sCbMR2UQ3GY

    DIY Kettlebell.

    Will fix back issues & build explosive power.
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    1″ x 12″ nipple
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    1″ x 4″ nipple x2

  1067. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    In matrilineality (or "every child counts") you can already see the future mindset of rabbinical Judaism "every Jewish life counts". I would bet that this mindset finally produced Dawkins "Selfish gene" concept.
    This is not the mindset of the Bible, where righteous Jews count, otherwise Jews are falling left and right, often from the hand of God.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    You are right about the Punic mass conversion to Judaism after the fall of Carthage. The Spanish and Maghrebi Jewry was most probably substantially of Punic and Berber descent. The Berber were also quite matrilineal before the advent of Abrahamic religions. See Kahina (which was described by the Muslim invaders as being a “Jewish priestess” as if such a thing was possible in Judaism) and closer to our times Tin Hinan (in which tomb a votive mother goddess was discovered) for example.

    https://collections.peabody.harvard.edu/objects/details/660300

    You might be onto something here…

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    These shapes are pretty similar to what I saw in the Museum of Cycladic Art in Athens...

    Interestingly, Phoenicians and Greeks were considered to be cousins, if not half-brothers (Cadmos myth).

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  1068. @Bashibuzuk
    @Another Polish Perspective

    You are right about the Punic mass conversion to Judaism after the fall of Carthage. The Spanish and Maghrebi Jewry was most probably substantially of Punic and Berber descent. The Berber were also quite matrilineal before the advent of Abrahamic religions. See Kahina (which was described by the Muslim invaders as being a “Jewish priestess” as if such a thing was possible in Judaism) and closer to our times Tin Hinan (in which tomb a votive mother goddess was discovered) for example.

    https://collections.peabody.harvard.edu/objects/details/660300

    You might be onto something here…

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    These shapes are pretty similar to what I saw in the Museum of Cycladic Art in Athens…

    Interestingly, Phoenicians and Greeks were considered to be cousins, if not half-brothers (Cadmos myth).

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Another Polish Perspective

    What is actually puzzling about that votive goddess figurine is not its shape or origin, many different Mediterranean and European populations worshipped the Goddess, but its dating. Tin Hinan lived in the 4th century AD. By that period, no Mediterranean population was still heavily into the cult of the Goddess. Of course, a Tuareg population that would have barely (if at all) been touched by the Roman influence, would have been more archaic than the other Berber tribes further north.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  1069. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    how little Russian stuff was promoted in the Soviet Union publication. No Tolstoy. No Tchaichovsky.
     
    I guess Soviet propagandists expected Westerners to be brainless libtards. They were a few decades ahead of times.

    Inside the USSR Tolstoy, Pushkin, Tchaikovsky, and many other greats were officially revered (along with some politically correct second- and third-rate people like Gorky or Shevchenko). Books by Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Pushkin, Lermontov, Chekhov were printed, but not in sufficient numbers, so they were hard to get. Funny enough, you could get those high-demand books through regional party committees, even though party big shots were unlikely to read them. Enterprising second- and third-tier party bureaucrats bought them and resold at a tidy profit to normal people.

    Don’t know much about physics: I am a biologist, we had only pretty rudimentary physics and math courses at the university.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Jazman

    “Don’t know much about physics: I am a biologist, we had only pretty rudimentary physics and math courses at the university”

    I believe even rudimentary physics and math was not easy piece of cake 🙂
    When I studied Kinesiology and Biomechanics I got Soviet plan and program at university level and it was mind blowing .

  1070. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Philip Owen

    Except Palestine. Screw those guys. Right?


    If you want a nigger for a neighbor vote for labor!
     
    I kid. I love the British. The Boer War is my favorite.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    For Palestine too but the Mizrahi Jews were expelled by the Arabs. Israel is their only home. It should stay that way.

  1071. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Another Polish Perspective
    @Bashibuzuk

    These shapes are pretty similar to what I saw in the Museum of Cycladic Art in Athens...

    Interestingly, Phoenicians and Greeks were considered to be cousins, if not half-brothers (Cadmos myth).

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    What is actually puzzling about that votive goddess figurine is not its shape or origin, many different Mediterranean and European populations worshipped the Goddess, but its dating. Tin Hinan lived in the 4th century AD. By that period, no Mediterranean population was still heavily into the cult of the Goddess. Of course, a Tuareg population that would have barely (if at all) been touched by the Roman influence, would have been more archaic than the other Berber tribes further north.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Bashibuzuk

    Now that I think about it, the Agadez Cross Saharan Berber amulet was also sometimes been interpreted as a surviving symbolic representation of the goddess that might have been influenced by the Punic Tanit. Of course now that the Tuareg are nominally Muslim, the polytheistic meaning of the amulet is occluded/forgotten. The Tuareg woman on the picture below wears these amulets:

    https://i.pinimg.com/474x/ff/c3/0b/ffc30beac8f2b7c68faaa351ceb06ee8.jpg

    https://www.latelierdescreateurs.com/adc_images/produits/1413-ben-azri-pendentif-croix-touareg-argent.jpg

    There are actually around two dozen different types of shapes for the Agadez crosses. Perhaps they had a specific meaning in the past. In any case, the Tuareg are still quite a matrilineal ethnic group despite centuries of Islamic influence. It was most probably outright matriarchal at the Tin Hinan time.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  1072. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Bashibuzuk
    @Another Polish Perspective

    What is actually puzzling about that votive goddess figurine is not its shape or origin, many different Mediterranean and European populations worshipped the Goddess, but its dating. Tin Hinan lived in the 4th century AD. By that period, no Mediterranean population was still heavily into the cult of the Goddess. Of course, a Tuareg population that would have barely (if at all) been touched by the Roman influence, would have been more archaic than the other Berber tribes further north.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    Now that I think about it, the Agadez Cross Saharan Berber amulet was also sometimes been interpreted as a surviving symbolic representation of the goddess that might have been influenced by the Punic Tanit. Of course now that the Tuareg are nominally Muslim, the polytheistic meaning of the amulet is occluded/forgotten. The Tuareg woman on the picture below wears these amulets:

    There are actually around two dozen different types of shapes for the Agadez crosses. Perhaps they had a specific meaning in the past. In any case, the Tuareg are still quite a matrilineal ethnic group despite centuries of Islamic influence. It was most probably outright matriarchal at the Tin Hinan time.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @Bashibuzuk

    https://stanfordmag.org/contents/mysterious-symbols#:~:text=Some%20scholars%20have%20conjectured%20that,sign%20for%20the%20planet%20Venus.

    Finally, the Tuareg blacksmith / jeweller caste, the Inadan are said to be of Jewish Berber descent. They would have fled Islamic advance in the northern Maghreb and ended up with the Tuareg in the desert before moving even further south into the subsaharan regions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inadan_(African_caste)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daggatun

    Notice that among the Tuareg the Inadan are also tasked with the animal sacrifice.

  1073. Bashibuzuk says:
    @Bashibuzuk
    @Bashibuzuk

    Now that I think about it, the Agadez Cross Saharan Berber amulet was also sometimes been interpreted as a surviving symbolic representation of the goddess that might have been influenced by the Punic Tanit. Of course now that the Tuareg are nominally Muslim, the polytheistic meaning of the amulet is occluded/forgotten. The Tuareg woman on the picture below wears these amulets:

    https://i.pinimg.com/474x/ff/c3/0b/ffc30beac8f2b7c68faaa351ceb06ee8.jpg

    https://www.latelierdescreateurs.com/adc_images/produits/1413-ben-azri-pendentif-croix-touareg-argent.jpg

    There are actually around two dozen different types of shapes for the Agadez crosses. Perhaps they had a specific meaning in the past. In any case, the Tuareg are still quite a matrilineal ethnic group despite centuries of Islamic influence. It was most probably outright matriarchal at the Tin Hinan time.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

    https://stanfordmag.org/contents/mysterious-symbols#:~:text=Some%20scholars%20have%20conjectured%20that,sign%20for%20the%20planet%20Venus.

    Finally, the Tuareg blacksmith / jeweller caste, the Inadan are said to be of Jewish Berber descent. They would have fled Islamic advance in the northern Maghreb and ended up with the Tuareg in the desert before moving even further south into the subsaharan regions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inadan_(African_caste)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daggatun

    Notice that among the Tuareg the Inadan are also tasked with the animal sacrifice.

  1074. @Coconuts
    @AnonfromTN


    That’s why the lies about national oppression or antisemitism sell so well.
     
    The Russian version of my first name sounds typically Jewish and if you transliterate my British surname directly into Russian it also sounds Jewish. I remember the challenges this caused registering a birth in Belarus. My wife was saying that the baby can't have that patronymic and surname, it will be disadvantaged in life and the situation would be bizarre given we both have no known Jewish ancestry.

    I observed that generally Belarusians didn't have the same kind of Holocaust religion as existed in the Anglosphere at that time. It seems like it was never promoted during the Soviet era either. Iirc around the same period I was reading Zemmour's book Le Suicide français, that was the first time I had seen any discussion of the central place the Holocaust held in culture and the way this was related to US/Israeli influence in a relatively mainstream book.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer

    my British surname directly into Russian it also sounds Jewish.

    KOKOCbI does not sound Jewish.

  1075. @AP
    @Bashibuzuk

    To be fair to Benito, he seems to have been talking about Slavic-speaking Balkan peoples and not real Slavs.

    Though Solovyov probably doesn't care about the distinction.

    Replies: @Derer

    AP…how can you deduce from “Slavic – inferior and barbarian”, not referring to real Slavs. So, all these anti-Russian sentiments on these pages are not really against Russians.

  1076. @AP
    @Matra


    Vance much is less popular in Ohio than other Republicans are, because he repels Ohio’s large Eastern European population

    Once again showing that Eastern Europeans are mostly fifth columnists who should never have been allowed into the US – or the Western world in general
     
    Why do you view the interests of Eastern Europe and those of the USA (or the West) as mutually exclusive? Do you think that America, or the West, would be better off if its rivals were larger and stronger?

    And btw Brits left to their own devices are more anti-Brit (or Anglo, or whatever) than are the Eastern Europeans living amongst them. Look at what the English have done to poor England.

    Replies: @Cesar1191

    Why do you view the interests of Eastern Europe and those of the USA (or the West) as mutually exclusive? Do you think that America, or the West, would be better off if its rivals were larger and stronger?

    I have to say, the pro-Russia or anti-Ukraine stance of Western or Nordic chauvinists are bizarre. Even if you don’t care about Eastern Europeans, and you think of all Central Europeans and Balts and Finnic peoples as just those Eastern Europeans that you don’t care about, you still only have to look at a map to see that Norway, Sweden and Denmark are right next to Russia, and that Germany shares a border with Poland.

    Sure, Russia is stuck in Eastern Ukraine now, but if Russia were to capture Ukraine and absorb its population, Russia would probably want to repeat such success with other countries. Eastern Europe and Western Europe are not separated by impenetrable geographic barriers. This is just logical, if Russia understands that it can increase its power by conquering its neighbors, then Russia will have no incentive not to do that, that incentive only stops when military defeat happens, and it seems like a good idea to help Ukraine to make that happen now instead of waiting until later, when the cost will be much higher.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Cesar1191


    pro-Russia or anti-Ukraine stance of Western or Nordic chauvinists are bizarre
     
    Not unprecedented though, geopolitically they are Ribbentrop type, whom always hated UK/US/France way more and saw it as primary target compared with the East, which could be used as cooperative force against that target first. Also modern regime conditions have changed as East isn't officially atheist/communist anymore, so various tuckers et al. keep brainwashingly pushing that angle onto target audience while deliberately being blind and obfuscating the mass muslim immigration policy with "Quran being sacred for all in RF" at the highest imaginable level by Kremlin.
    , @John Johnson
    @Cesar1191

    I have to say, the pro-Russia or anti-Ukraine stance of Western or Nordic chauvinists are bizarre.

    It is indeed truly bizarre.

    Anglin is a self-described White nationalist who runs the "Daily Stormer" and cheers a Slavic dictator as he leads a bloody war with his multi-racial/multi-religious empire against a nation that is far more Slavic and has a higher birth rate.

    Most common explanations given when I ask how supporting Putin and a war where Slavs kill each other is a pro-White position or somehow sticks it to Jews:
    #1. UR A JEW!!!
    #2. Zelenksy is a Jew!! Jews Jews Jews!!! (no discussion of Putin's support for Israel)

    Very few of them can give more than a street crazy rant with JEWS...BLINKEN....GOVERNMENT.

    What we really have is an incel misanthropic alliance that pretends to be pro-White. It is led by people like Anglin and Fuentes that "just happen" to not be married to a White woman. It's really not part of the right as these people have ZERO problems with an overbearing and intrusive government that violates all conservative principles. They didn't get the White woman they expected and now are part of a "burn it all" alliance that pretends to support White people.

    The Anglin right for lack of a better term is just incredibly stupid and irrational. It's like a group of vegans suddenly declaring their love for a Texas cattle rancher. Then when asked to explain they accuse you of being an anti-vegan spy that should be censored.

    I at least get the pan-Russian supporters that want a Russian totalitarian lock on Ukraine even if the people of Ukraine deeply oppose it. It's of course a form of fascism but they don't call it that. But that position can at least be explained unlike the incel right that goes batshit crazy when asked to explain their Putin support. You'd think they would at least be neutral but both Anglin and Fuentes pledged their support to Putin when the war started. Anglin has also gone on record that he dreams of the Chinese overruling Whites. He really should drop the White nationalist act and just admit that he hates everyone and especially the Jews.

  1077. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    Why do you view the interests of Eastern Europe and those of the USA (or the West) as mutually exclusive? Do you think that America, or the West, would be better off if its rivals were larger and stronger?

     

    I have to say, the pro-Russia or anti-Ukraine stance of Western or Nordic chauvinists are bizarre. Even if you don't care about Eastern Europeans, and you think of all Central Europeans and Balts and Finnic peoples as just those Eastern Europeans that you don't care about, you still only have to look at a map to see that Norway, Sweden and Denmark are right next to Russia, and that Germany shares a border with Poland.

    Sure, Russia is stuck in Eastern Ukraine now, but if Russia were to capture Ukraine and absorb its population, Russia would probably want to repeat such success with other countries. Eastern Europe and Western Europe are not separated by impenetrable geographic barriers. This is just logical, if Russia understands that it can increase its power by conquering its neighbors, then Russia will have no incentive not to do that, that incentive only stops when military defeat happens, and it seems like a good idea to help Ukraine to make that happen now instead of waiting until later, when the cost will be much higher.

    Replies: @sudden death, @John Johnson

    pro-Russia or anti-Ukraine stance of Western or Nordic chauvinists are bizarre

    Not unprecedented though, geopolitically they are Ribbentrop type, whom always hated UK/US/France way more and saw it as primary target compared with the East, which could be used as cooperative force against that target first. Also modern regime conditions have changed as East isn’t officially atheist/communist anymore, so various tuckers et al. keep brainwashingly pushing that angle onto target audience while deliberately being blind and obfuscating the mass muslim immigration policy with “Quran being sacred for all in RF” at the highest imaginable level by Kremlin.

  1078. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Actually, most of the anti-Chinese propaganda is spread by self-hating Chinese 支黑, not Japanese.

    Same as when you Ivans and Pavels diss each other in front of Westerners, you make each other all look worse.

    https://i.postimg.cc/Gh9bfYh1/Sukuri-nshotto.png

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The hoisting of the US flag after the battle of Iwo Jima was accomplished with the help of Ukrainian-American sergeant Michael Strank. I'm sure that he would be proud today to see that the country that he was defending in 1945 is now fully on board in supporting the land of his ancestors today.

    https://www.historyhit.com/app/uploads/2020/07/raising-flag-iwo-jima-1.jpg?x15493
    The famous photo that was enshrined in the monument that you've posted.

    https://www.upns.org/images/stories/modern-stamps/IwoJima-5.jpg

  1079. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    https://youtu.be/0sGbPCkjPC8?si=P-NQY7BbEKjhkULY


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/2018-10-31_15_25_21_The_west_side_of_the_Marine_Corps_War_Memorial_in_Arlington_County%2C_Virginia.jpg/1200px-2018-10-31_15_25_21_The_west_side_of_the_Marine_Corps_War_Memorial_in_Arlington_County%2C_Virginia.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The hoisting of the US flag after the battle of Iwo Jima was accomplished with the help of Ukrainian-American sergeant Michael Strank. I’m sure that he would be proud today to see that the country that he was defending in 1945 is now fully on board in supporting the land of his ancestors today.


    The famous photo that was enshrined in the monument that you’ve posted.

  1080. @sudden death
    @Mr. Hack


    Gazprom indicated that its own output was down by about 25%
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMleERAW4AAOc9S.png

    Replies: @A123, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Talk is cheap.

  1081. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    Why do you view the interests of Eastern Europe and those of the USA (or the West) as mutually exclusive? Do you think that America, or the West, would be better off if its rivals were larger and stronger?

     

    I have to say, the pro-Russia or anti-Ukraine stance of Western or Nordic chauvinists are bizarre. Even if you don't care about Eastern Europeans, and you think of all Central Europeans and Balts and Finnic peoples as just those Eastern Europeans that you don't care about, you still only have to look at a map to see that Norway, Sweden and Denmark are right next to Russia, and that Germany shares a border with Poland.

    Sure, Russia is stuck in Eastern Ukraine now, but if Russia were to capture Ukraine and absorb its population, Russia would probably want to repeat such success with other countries. Eastern Europe and Western Europe are not separated by impenetrable geographic barriers. This is just logical, if Russia understands that it can increase its power by conquering its neighbors, then Russia will have no incentive not to do that, that incentive only stops when military defeat happens, and it seems like a good idea to help Ukraine to make that happen now instead of waiting until later, when the cost will be much higher.

    Replies: @sudden death, @John Johnson

    I have to say, the pro-Russia or anti-Ukraine stance of Western or Nordic chauvinists are bizarre.

    It is indeed truly bizarre.

    Anglin is a self-described White nationalist who runs the “Daily Stormer” and cheers a Slavic dictator as he leads a bloody war with his multi-racial/multi-religious empire against a nation that is far more Slavic and has a higher birth rate.

    Most common explanations given when I ask how supporting Putin and a war where Slavs kill each other is a pro-White position or somehow sticks it to Jews:
    #1. UR A JEW!!!
    #2. Zelenksy is a Jew!! Jews Jews Jews!!! (no discussion of Putin’s support for Israel)

    Very few of them can give more than a street crazy rant with JEWS…BLINKEN….GOVERNMENT.

    What we really have is an incel misanthropic alliance that pretends to be pro-White. It is led by people like Anglin and Fuentes that “just happen” to not be married to a White woman. It’s really not part of the right as these people have ZERO problems with an overbearing and intrusive government that violates all conservative principles. They didn’t get the White woman they expected and now are part of a “burn it all” alliance that pretends to support White people.

    The Anglin right for lack of a better term is just incredibly stupid and irrational. It’s like a group of vegans suddenly declaring their love for a Texas cattle rancher. Then when asked to explain they accuse you of being an anti-vegan spy that should be censored.

    I at least get the pan-Russian supporters that want a Russian totalitarian lock on Ukraine even if the people of Ukraine deeply oppose it. It’s of course a form of fascism but they don’t call it that. But that position can at least be explained unlike the incel right that goes batshit crazy when asked to explain their Putin support. You’d think they would at least be neutral but both Anglin and Fuentes pledged their support to Putin when the war started. Anglin has also gone on record that he dreams of the Chinese overruling Whites. He really should drop the White nationalist act and just admit that he hates everyone and especially the Jews.

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