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For those interested, here are my three most recent articles, the first discussing the Holocaust, the second on the very surprising actual facts of the 1994 Rwanda Genocide, and the third an interview by Mike Whitney on the underlying Jewish aspects of the current Israel/Gaza conflict.

I’d also recommend this very interesting discussion of some strange aspects of the current Middle East situation:

 
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: Gaza, Israel/Palestine, Russia, Ukraine 
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  1. • Replies: @Sean
    @Mikhail

    His point that saying no one is above the law is true only when no one is below the law in question either. Otherwise there is selective prosecution. Trump is being brought to book for things other business men do every day without even an indictment.. Furthermore a prosecutor ran for that office on a platform of promising to bring a case against Trump, which is all wrong.

  2. The Red Heifer is on A123’s beat. He previously explained the significance of the animal and linked to a helpful South Park episode.

    Mr. A123, can you now explain the significance of the Third Temple and the red heifer to evangelical Christians? Is the speaker in the video correct in his description of a tension between the differing views of Jews and Evangelical Christians of what is supposed to transpire once the temple is constructed?

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    Mr. A123, can you now explain the significance of the Third Temple and the red heifer to evangelical Christians?
     
    I would not want to try. There are far too many interpretations among various Christian organizations to pick one.

    You would need Torah/Talmud experts for the other side, but my impression is that they are also less than fully unified.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @QCIC

    Revelation's "Third Temple" is obviously some kind of spaceship/space station of alien gods.

    21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God

    It seems it is designed to orbit together with Nibiru, as there is no day/night there (as is on Nibiru).

    21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

    21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

    And no human construct could fulfil the tree of life/water of life requirement.

    22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

    22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

    Besides, there is some fake "Third Temple" already in Israel which is the Bahai Temple in Haifa, built on the Mount Carmel (!), where Jesus was transfigured. Pretty shocking that the central temple of Bahai was built in Israel. actually.

  3. A123 says: • Website
    @QCIC
    The Red Heifer is on A123's beat. He previously explained the significance of the animal and linked to a helpful South Park episode.

    Mr. A123, can you now explain the significance of the Third Temple and the red heifer to evangelical Christians? Is the speaker in the video correct in his description of a tension between the differing views of Jews and Evangelical Christians of what is supposed to transpire once the temple is constructed?

    Replies: @A123, @Another Polish Perspective

    Mr. A123, can you now explain the significance of the Third Temple and the red heifer to evangelical Christians?

    I would not want to try. There are far too many interpretations among various Christian organizations to pick one.

    You would need Torah/Talmud experts for the other side, but my impression is that they are also less than fully unified.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives. In my sect there are no Sunday bible readings from Revelation on any day of the calendar. We have a one year sequence and a three year sequence and pretty much every nook and cranny of the scriptures are covered with this exception. Most of these tales from modern television and whatnot preachers are downright heretical.

    I am a lot more interested in exploring the possibility that heretical kooks blew up Atlantis. I was surprised that Ron Unz posted that red heifer twitter gibberish. He could perhaps use a new hobby.

    Aliens!

    https://www.parareligion.ch/lam.htm

    Plan 93 from Outer Space by Peter-Robert Koenig

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123, @muh muh

  4. @A123
    @QCIC


    Mr. A123, can you now explain the significance of the Third Temple and the red heifer to evangelical Christians?
     
    I would not want to try. There are far too many interpretations among various Christian organizations to pick one.

    You would need Torah/Talmud experts for the other side, but my impression is that they are also less than fully unified.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives. In my sect there are no Sunday bible readings from Revelation on any day of the calendar. We have a one year sequence and a three year sequence and pretty much every nook and cranny of the scriptures are covered with this exception. Most of these tales from modern television and whatnot preachers are downright heretical.

    I am a lot more interested in exploring the possibility that heretical kooks blew up Atlantis. I was surprised that Ron Unz posted that red heifer twitter gibberish. He could perhaps use a new hobby.

    Aliens!

    https://www.parareligion.ch/lam.htm

    Plan 93 from Outer Space by Peter-Robert Koenig

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I can't tell if Ron is trolling us or if he has reached a point of accepting that crazy people do crazy things. In which case it may be worth some time becoming familiar with the delusions of the crazies in order to predict their actions.

    Life can be tricky when the patients run the asylum.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives.
     
    I largely concur.

    I pointed out in prior threads that there are many variant Bibles. They have been modified by multiple rounds of editing and translation. Overly literal efforts to detect foretold signs & portents is unlikely to be a productive endeavour.

    PEACE 😇

    , @muh muh
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives.
     
    And?

    It is enough that quite powerful Christian organizations, whose followers form a sizeable voting constituency, are on board with the narrative detailed in the video. More importantly, Christians other than the John Hagee prototypes are either entirely ineffective or disinterested in influencing American policy toward Israel, so this eschatology -- along with those actively seeking to realize it -- is very much a problem, however much you wish to blithely dismiss it as 'gibberish'.

    It doesn't matter what you think of the information outlined in the video. Those who run Israel take those prophecies very seriously, and since Israel effectively owns America (which, at this stage, can't possibly be denied), what those Jewish nutjobs do to spark a wider war matters now more than ever.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  5. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives. In my sect there are no Sunday bible readings from Revelation on any day of the calendar. We have a one year sequence and a three year sequence and pretty much every nook and cranny of the scriptures are covered with this exception. Most of these tales from modern television and whatnot preachers are downright heretical.

    I am a lot more interested in exploring the possibility that heretical kooks blew up Atlantis. I was surprised that Ron Unz posted that red heifer twitter gibberish. He could perhaps use a new hobby.

    Aliens!

    https://www.parareligion.ch/lam.htm

    Plan 93 from Outer Space by Peter-Robert Koenig

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123, @muh muh

    I can’t tell if Ron is trolling us or if he has reached a point of accepting that crazy people do crazy things. In which case it may be worth some time becoming familiar with the delusions of the crazies in order to predict their actions.

    Life can be tricky when the patients run the asylum.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    The scion of Chaos Magic, Peter Carroll, has a fortune cookie recipe for magical operations time frames: divine short and enchant long. Predicting what is going to happen tomorrow is many orders of magnitude easier than prophesying the end of time. The latter is basically impossible.

    Some bible scholars propose that the Revelation vision has already been fulfilled. The events described in the book are supposed to be the Roman destruction of the Jewish colony in the second century A.D. in their view. If you want to study this in depth you can spend your entire working life down in the rabbit hole.

    Aliens are more fun.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  6. Wanted the chatbot to give me a breakdown comparison of orcas vs. sperm whales, and it started talking about the hypothetical of them battling, which is hard for me to walk away from.

    Will be thinking about it for a long time, now.

    As much as I like the abilities of a single sperm whale, it is hard for me to believe that a pod wouldn’t triumph, but it predicted the sperm whale would be victorious.

    Seems to me it depends a lot on the size of the pod. Two orcas and they are screwed. Thirty and the sperm whale is screwed, unless it can quick-dive. Fifteen and I would still favor the orcas. Not sure about five.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird

    Check out this video (it's quite cool, but not sure it's realistic or if it's made up - seems overly dramatic and brutal, lol, plus they typically feed on seals).

    The orcas are attacking a whole pod of sperm whales and are trying to snatch the juvenile from the mother, then daddy comes in and saves everyone (as it should be). Haha. Please do not demonize them as some crazy killers (they are typically very mellow things, just trying to get by).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaidpx3b0Jg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    , @AP
    @songbird

    Well there is this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2017/mar/29/sex-death-sperm-whales-orcas-indian-ocean-in-pictures

    Orcas don’t seem to attack male sperm whales (too big and aggressive, even if an orca pod could defeat one he would probably kill an orca or two in the process) but do go after females and calves. Real nature isn’t computer simulations (or human warfare), a pod wouldn’t attack under the condition that it would lose a member or two, it would just move on.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  7. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I can't tell if Ron is trolling us or if he has reached a point of accepting that crazy people do crazy things. In which case it may be worth some time becoming familiar with the delusions of the crazies in order to predict their actions.

    Life can be tricky when the patients run the asylum.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The scion of Chaos Magic, Peter Carroll, has a fortune cookie recipe for magical operations time frames: divine short and enchant long. Predicting what is going to happen tomorrow is many orders of magnitude easier than prophesying the end of time. The latter is basically impossible.

    Some bible scholars propose that the Revelation vision has already been fulfilled. The events described in the book are supposed to be the Roman destruction of the Jewish colony in the second century A.D. in their view. If you want to study this in depth you can spend your entire working life down in the rabbit hole.

    Aliens are more fun.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Revelation is not so difficult to understand - the main problem is with "the Beast" etc.,but is obviously some incarnation/avatar of Satan - but as Judeochristan document, it is very uncomfortable for Christians since it is not in tune with the rest of mainly Paulian New Testament. Moreover, it is very graphic and suggest catastrophes falling upon the entire planet of Earth, unlike any book of the Bible (except the Flood in Genesis).

    It clearly says that only limited number of Jews and only Jews will be saved (144000) and there are many false Jews around ("those who call themselves Jews but are not"). This is very fatalistic. It is not a template for universal, catholic faith full of compassion etc.

    Therefore highly allegoric interpretations were developed to cloud the fact that the judgmental God of the Old Testament will return and - judge. And even conversion to Judaism will not save you;)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard

  8. A123 says: • Website
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives. In my sect there are no Sunday bible readings from Revelation on any day of the calendar. We have a one year sequence and a three year sequence and pretty much every nook and cranny of the scriptures are covered with this exception. Most of these tales from modern television and whatnot preachers are downright heretical.

    I am a lot more interested in exploring the possibility that heretical kooks blew up Atlantis. I was surprised that Ron Unz posted that red heifer twitter gibberish. He could perhaps use a new hobby.

    Aliens!

    https://www.parareligion.ch/lam.htm

    Plan 93 from Outer Space by Peter-Robert Koenig

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123, @muh muh

    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives.

    I largely concur.

    I pointed out in prior threads that there are many variant Bibles. They have been modified by multiple rounds of editing and translation. Overly literal efforts to detect foretold signs & portents is unlikely to be a productive endeavour.

    PEACE 😇

  9. @songbird
    Wanted the chatbot to give me a breakdown comparison of orcas vs. sperm whales, and it started talking about the hypothetical of them battling, which is hard for me to walk away from.

    Will be thinking about it for a long time, now.

    As much as I like the abilities of a single sperm whale, it is hard for me to believe that a pod wouldn't triumph, but it predicted the sperm whale would be victorious.

    Seems to me it depends a lot on the size of the pod. Two orcas and they are screwed. Thirty and the sperm whale is screwed, unless it can quick-dive. Fifteen and I would still favor the orcas. Not sure about five.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    Check out this video (it’s quite cool, but not sure it’s realistic or if it’s made up – seems overly dramatic and brutal, lol, plus they typically feed on seals).

    The orcas are attacking a whole pod of sperm whales and are trying to snatch the juvenile from the mother, then daddy comes in and saves everyone (as it should be). Haha. Please do not demonize them as some crazy killers (they are typically very mellow things, just trying to get by).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Have you read Moby Dick?

    It might be the greatest American novel. If you haven't check out Ahab's quarterdeck pep talk.

    https://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/42/moby-dick/694/chapter-36-the-quarter-deck/

    Replies: @LatW

    , @songbird
    @LatW

    As I recall, in Moby Dick, the chapters were interspersed with speculations about whales and creatures of the deep. Some of the knowledge at the time seemed quite primitive.

    And before that there was the folklore of the sea, created by fishermen and filled with strange possibilities.

    We can see clips of people diving with many of these whales on YouTube. Things beyond the imagination of Melville or the fishermen. And yet, despite all this new info, there still seems many strange rumors and mysteries.

    I hear tell, that sperm whales killed an orca near New Zealand. That their clicks are powerful enough to kill a person. And that if you dive with them, their sonar can heat you up like a microwave and you will feel the heat. And a diver put his hand out once and the click paralyzed it for four hours.
    https://youtu.be/zsDwFGz0Okg?si=h1vHxkKtqMfbf7pM

    Have heard humpbacks secret seals on their stomachs to protect them from killers. I thought surely that must be made up, then I saw a picture of it.

    Some say that whales can recognize individual divers from their sonar signature.

    Replies: @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard

  10. AP says:
    @songbird
    Wanted the chatbot to give me a breakdown comparison of orcas vs. sperm whales, and it started talking about the hypothetical of them battling, which is hard for me to walk away from.

    Will be thinking about it for a long time, now.

    As much as I like the abilities of a single sperm whale, it is hard for me to believe that a pod wouldn't triumph, but it predicted the sperm whale would be victorious.

    Seems to me it depends a lot on the size of the pod. Two orcas and they are screwed. Thirty and the sperm whale is screwed, unless it can quick-dive. Fifteen and I would still favor the orcas. Not sure about five.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    Well there is this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2017/mar/29/sex-death-sperm-whales-orcas-indian-ocean-in-pictures

    Orcas don’t seem to attack male sperm whales (too big and aggressive, even if an orca pod could defeat one he would probably kill an orca or two in the process) but do go after females and calves. Real nature isn’t computer simulations (or human warfare), a pod wouldn’t attack under the condition that it would lose a member or two, it would just move on.

    • Thanks: songbird, Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Off-topic, but what are your thoughts on Orban saying that Trump will end the Ukraine War by cutting off all US aid to Ukraine?

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/europe/orban-trump-ukraine-intl/index.html

    These are the red flags that are worrying me. Specifically comments like these and others by some of Trump's biggest supporters. The far-left is also anti-Ukraine, but they're not hardcore Biden fans like the far-right are hardcore Trump fans.

    Replies: @AP

  11. @LatW
    @songbird

    Check out this video (it's quite cool, but not sure it's realistic or if it's made up - seems overly dramatic and brutal, lol, plus they typically feed on seals).

    The orcas are attacking a whole pod of sperm whales and are trying to snatch the juvenile from the mother, then daddy comes in and saves everyone (as it should be). Haha. Please do not demonize them as some crazy killers (they are typically very mellow things, just trying to get by).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaidpx3b0Jg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    Have you read Moby Dick?

    It might be the greatest American novel. If you haven’t check out Ahab’s quarterdeck pep talk.

    https://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/42/moby-dick/694/chapter-36-the-quarter-deck/

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Yea, I read it a long time ago (it takes place in Nantucket, East Coast mariner culture). It's by Melville.

    It's old sounding speech ("ye", etc), I wonder if they used the Atlantic accent there, back in the late 19th century. But the more common representations of the Atlantic accent are mostly heard in old movies where the speech sounds a bit more sophisticated than sailor language.

    This vengefulness narrative and motive.. is interesting (maybe there's a tinge of Calvinism there with the desire to actively shape Nature). It's just I've never been able to accept it directed at animals, but it's understandable, it's man against Nature. There is a lot of harshness there, which is somewhat attractive - that's appealing about America in general, the combination of the ruggedness of character with the landscape, how one's psyche is driven through that - and very intricate imagery.

  12. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Have you read Moby Dick?

    It might be the greatest American novel. If you haven't check out Ahab's quarterdeck pep talk.

    https://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/42/moby-dick/694/chapter-36-the-quarter-deck/

    Replies: @LatW

    Yea, I read it a long time ago (it takes place in Nantucket, East Coast mariner culture). It’s by Melville.

    It’s old sounding speech (“ye”, etc), I wonder if they used the Atlantic accent there, back in the late 19th century. But the more common representations of the Atlantic accent are mostly heard in old movies where the speech sounds a bit more sophisticated than sailor language.

    This vengefulness narrative and motive.. is interesting (maybe there’s a tinge of Calvinism there with the desire to actively shape Nature). It’s just I’ve never been able to accept it directed at animals, but it’s understandable, it’s man against Nature. There is a lot of harshness there, which is somewhat attractive – that’s appealing about America in general, the combination of the ruggedness of character with the landscape, how one’s psyche is driven through that – and very intricate imagery.

  13. I wish that the war in Sudan were getting more coverage.

    This post is a few weeks old; but it indicates that the SAF is starting to make gains around the capital.

    https://sudanwarmonitor.com/p/map-omdurman-breakthrough

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Not Raul

    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @LatW, @AnonfromTN

  14. @Not Raul
    I wish that the war in Sudan were getting more coverage.

    This post is a few weeks old; but it indicates that the SAF is starting to make gains around the capital.

    https://sudanwarmonitor.com/p/map-omdurman-breakthrough

    Replies: @tyrone

    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @tyrone


    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep, everyone has forgot about Sudan.
     
    You’re welcome. Hopefully we can encourage Ron to come up with some new Sudan-related content.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @LatW
    @tyrone


    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about
     
    There was something about it the other day that it could cause a major famine. What is going on with the world...
    , @AnonfromTN
    @tyrone


    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.
     
    That’s not the only story Western media buried deep. There are several wars going on in Myanmar (Burma for the older readers) that are ignored.

    It is the usual pattern ever since “news” became pure propaganda. Remember gazillions of hospitals in Aleppo? Ever read about them after Syrian government kicked the bandits out of that city? Remember another Sudanese story, about Darfur? Used to be on the front lines every day. Never mentioned now. Remember a story about South Sudan? Things did not go as planned by the imperial meddlers, so it is not mentioned any more. Remember the covid thing? It was ~10% disease and 90% psyop. That's the only reason Putin managed to cure the whole world of covid by starting SMO in Ukraine.

    If you read the news in the US, everything domestic is "Trump", everything international is "Putin". So it goes…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

  15. @LatW
    @songbird

    Check out this video (it's quite cool, but not sure it's realistic or if it's made up - seems overly dramatic and brutal, lol, plus they typically feed on seals).

    The orcas are attacking a whole pod of sperm whales and are trying to snatch the juvenile from the mother, then daddy comes in and saves everyone (as it should be). Haha. Please do not demonize them as some crazy killers (they are typically very mellow things, just trying to get by).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaidpx3b0Jg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    As I recall, in Moby Dick, the chapters were interspersed with speculations about whales and creatures of the deep. Some of the knowledge at the time seemed quite primitive.

    And before that there was the folklore of the sea, created by fishermen and filled with strange possibilities.

    We can see clips of people diving with many of these whales on YouTube. Things beyond the imagination of Melville or the fishermen. And yet, despite all this new info, there still seems many strange rumors and mysteries.

    I hear tell, that sperm whales killed an orca near New Zealand. That their clicks are powerful enough to kill a person. And that if you dive with them, their sonar can heat you up like a microwave and you will feel the heat. And a diver put his hand out once and the click paralyzed it for four hours.

    [MORE]

    Have heard humpbacks secret seals on their stomachs to protect them from killers. I thought surely that must be made up, then I saw a picture of it.

    Some say that whales can recognize individual divers from their sonar signature.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    As I recall, in Moby Dick, the chapters were interspersed with speculations about whales and creatures of the deep. Some of the knowledge at the time seemed quite primitive.
     
    There are all kinds of geographic and anthropological references that sometimes almost veer into a stream of consciousness type of narration. Maybe that's why sometimes he is compared to James Joyce? It's extremely intricate, ornate, I was still in my teens when I read it and could not understand a big part of it (part of it sounded dark and scary). It can be a pleasing style, if one is into that.


    And before that there was the folklore of the sea, created by fishermen and filled with strange possibilities.
     
    There is the reference to the Leviathan myth, the sea monster, it is something that is more developed with the Anglo peoples. Piracy, sea monsters, all that stuff.

    We can see clips of people diving with many of these whales on YouTube. Things beyond the imagination of Melville or the fishermen. And yet, despite all this new info, there still seems many strange rumors and mysteries.
     
    I have no idea if Melville himself ever had any direct interaction with whaling, fishing or any physical labor. But the descriptions are extremely intricate, poetic. Of course, there are mysteries, the ocean is unexplored.
    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    The Ronald Hutton dragon presentation is pretty great. He hypothesizes that dragons came into being (in the 900's to 1400's) from Job and from dinosaur fossils. Also he has some theory that a lack of natural scary alpha predators in Europe caused the fabled dragons to grow in ferocity compared with their Chinese cousins. The Chinese didn't have to embellish their dragons with ferocity because they had tigers roaming around their countryside to fill this niche.

  16. @tyrone
    @Not Raul

    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep, everyone has forgot about Sudan.

    You’re welcome. Hopefully we can encourage Ron to come up with some new Sudan-related content.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Not Raul

    Any chance that if Sudan will become destabilized enough then Darfur could successfully break away from Sudan just like South Sudan previously did?

    I wonder if Gore and not Bush had won in 2000, Gore and Europe would have been willing to do a repeat of Kosovo 1999 (military intervention)/2008 (independence) with Darfur. What do you think? I know that the Darfur genocide was a big cause celebre for the left in the mid-2000s or so. But Bush never contemplated any kind of US or NATO military intervention there because his hands were already tied with Iraq and, to some extent, Afghanistan as well.

    Darfur was actually its own sultanate until 1916, so it has a history of independence:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Darfur

    It lost its independence in 1916 because its sultan supported the Ottoman Empire during World War I. And even over a century later, Darfuris are still paying for their sultan's mistake. Similar to just how long Algerians paid for their dey's mistake in slapping the French ambassador back in 1827:

    https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/how-a-fly-whisk-led-to-the-invasion-of-a-country-78114b406119

    Replies: @Not Raul

  17. Alex Jones goes after Trump for his pro-vaccine stance:
    https://www.rawstory.com/alex-jones-trump-2667484905/

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    What’s the point of you?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  18. @John Johnson
    Alex Jones goes after Trump for his pro-vaccine stance:
    https://www.rawstory.com/alex-jones-trump-2667484905/


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/93/d2/b0/93d2b0a371abcd09aaa1c9e50e28732e.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    What’s the point of you?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Oh I'm sorry did I post in the wrong forum? Pretty sure this is open thread.

    Did you know the judge in post #8 is a homosexual and is accused of raping a man? But you have a problem with my post?

    How is your leftist in the cat suit? There one where you called me a Jew for pointing out that he is not only a leftist but leads a Marxist party? Maybe hurry up and call me a Jew to get it out of your system. I think it has been over 24 hours.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  19. It is a big day for SJW🏳️‍🌈Islam: (1)

    Far-Left Activist Shaun King Converts to Islam as Ramadan Starts: ‘My Heart Is with My Dearest Friends in Gaza’

    King self-identifies as black and was previously a Christian pastor. His career has long been plagued by allegations of financial misconduct, with major fundraising efforts failing to produce promised results. That pattern and a string of deceptive media hoaxes have made his name a punchline, ostracized from the Black Lives Matter movement.

    In 2020 he sparked controversy when he declared all statues of Jesus that portray him as a “white European” should be torn down because they are “a form of white supremacy,” as Breitbart News reported.

    Since 2015, King has claimed the Christian celebrations of Christmas and Easter are “tools of white supremacy.”

    He was ejected from the Black Lives Matter movement by its leaders in December 2015 over questions about the “integrity” of activist fundraising.

    Too racist for BLM… Becomes a Muslim. The warning to Judeo-Christian Americans is clear.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2024/03/11/far-left-activist-shaun-king-converts-to-islam-as-ramadan-starts-my-heart-is-with-my-dearest-friends-in-gaza/

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123

    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to "own the libs". Some of them are already trying to do that right now, but by converting to Russian Orthodoxy instead lol.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

  20. @AP
    @songbird

    Well there is this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2017/mar/29/sex-death-sperm-whales-orcas-indian-ocean-in-pictures

    Orcas don’t seem to attack male sperm whales (too big and aggressive, even if an orca pod could defeat one he would probably kill an orca or two in the process) but do go after females and calves. Real nature isn’t computer simulations (or human warfare), a pod wouldn’t attack under the condition that it would lose a member or two, it would just move on.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Off-topic, but what are your thoughts on Orban saying that Trump will end the Ukraine War by cutting off all US aid to Ukraine?

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/europe/orban-trump-ukraine-intl/index.html

    These are the red flags that are worrying me. Specifically comments like these and others by some of Trump’s biggest supporters. The far-left is also anti-Ukraine, but they’re not hardcore Biden fans like the far-right are hardcore Trump fans.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    If true, it disqualifies him from the presidency but with Trump, who knows what he will do.

    Trump has been pushing a pro-Ukraine guy in the senate primary in Michigan, against Justin Amash.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/donald-trump-endorses-mike-rogers-in-michigan-us-senate-race/

    Overall Trump is too much of a risk, despite voting for him in 2020 I’ll likely be voting for Biden. Trump is likely to be just as ineffective on domestic issues as he was last time, plus is very risky on foreign policy. But I won’t be completely surprised if he ends up disappointing Putin’s bootlickers.

    Mike Rogers:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3916018-the-republican-party-of-reagan-would-be-ukraines-strongest-supporters/



    True leadership is about explaining our country’s role in the world and the importance of what happens beyond our borders to our citizens — Reagan knew this and was able to communicate the importance of contesting the Soviet Union at every turn.

    Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R-Fla.) attempt last week to frame Ukraine’s heroic struggle for freedom from Russian tyranny, one that has left thousands of Ukrainian men, women and children dead, and displaced nearly a third of the nation, as a “territorial dispute” is not only wrong it is the kind of dangerous rhetoric that sends a clear signal to Moscow (one which they will exploit) that they need only wait and steel their resolve before American attention wanes.

    Our support to Ukraine is about America defending global peace and, thereby, ensuring our own freedom and economic prosperity. It is about ensuring the sovereignty of a democratic country in Europe today to avoid the cascade of conflict that would follow not just there but throughout the Indo-Pacific region as well. Reagan would recognize this truth, just as he saw the truth of the Soviet Union and its hollowness, and it is time that our Republican Party recognize it as well and explain it to the American people.
    Having served on and chaired the House Intelligence Committee during some of our nation’s most perilous times, I can share without hesitation the knowledge that our enemies closely scrutinize every action and every word of our leaders looking for an opening. Beyond Moscow, Beijing too has its eye fixed squarely on Ukraine to gauge America’s willingness and ability to rally the world and our military allies in the defense of freedom.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

  21. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    What’s the point of you?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Oh I’m sorry did I post in the wrong forum? Pretty sure this is open thread.

    Did you know the judge in post #8 is a homosexual and is accused of raping a man? But you have a problem with my post?

    How is your leftist in the cat suit? There one where you called me a Jew for pointing out that he is not only a leftist but leads a Marxist party? Maybe hurry up and call me a Jew to get it out of your system. I think it has been over 24 hours.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Off-topic, but do you think that Biden should drop out of the 2024 race? I'm inclined to think so, as a precautionary measure, just so long as the candidate who replaces him is indeed likely to have a better shot of winning in 2024 than Biden himself does.

    Note: I'm not saying that Biden is incapable of winning in 2024. I'm just saying that it's likely too risky to gamble on this, especially given Biden's relatively narrow margins of victory in crucial swing states in 2020.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  22. @songbird
    @LatW

    As I recall, in Moby Dick, the chapters were interspersed with speculations about whales and creatures of the deep. Some of the knowledge at the time seemed quite primitive.

    And before that there was the folklore of the sea, created by fishermen and filled with strange possibilities.

    We can see clips of people diving with many of these whales on YouTube. Things beyond the imagination of Melville or the fishermen. And yet, despite all this new info, there still seems many strange rumors and mysteries.

    I hear tell, that sperm whales killed an orca near New Zealand. That their clicks are powerful enough to kill a person. And that if you dive with them, their sonar can heat you up like a microwave and you will feel the heat. And a diver put his hand out once and the click paralyzed it for four hours.
    https://youtu.be/zsDwFGz0Okg?si=h1vHxkKtqMfbf7pM

    Have heard humpbacks secret seals on their stomachs to protect them from killers. I thought surely that must be made up, then I saw a picture of it.

    Some say that whales can recognize individual divers from their sonar signature.

    Replies: @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard

    As I recall, in Moby Dick, the chapters were interspersed with speculations about whales and creatures of the deep. Some of the knowledge at the time seemed quite primitive.

    There are all kinds of geographic and anthropological references that sometimes almost veer into a stream of consciousness type of narration. Maybe that’s why sometimes he is compared to James Joyce? It’s extremely intricate, ornate, I was still in my teens when I read it and could not understand a big part of it (part of it sounded dark and scary). It can be a pleasing style, if one is into that.

    And before that there was the folklore of the sea, created by fishermen and filled with strange possibilities.

    There is the reference to the Leviathan myth, the sea monster, it is something that is more developed with the Anglo peoples. Piracy, sea monsters, all that stuff.

    We can see clips of people diving with many of these whales on YouTube. Things beyond the imagination of Melville or the fishermen. And yet, despite all this new info, there still seems many strange rumors and mysteries.

    I have no idea if Melville himself ever had any direct interaction with whaling, fishing or any physical labor. But the descriptions are extremely intricate, poetic. Of course, there are mysteries, the ocean is unexplored.

  23. @tyrone
    @Not Raul

    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about

    There was something about it the other day that it could cause a major famine. What is going on with the world…

  24. I was actually only going to post one video but in honor of Wokechoke I’m posting another.

    He has accused me of Jewish subversion numerous times in the past but I guess he is fine with a man-toad homosexual Putin admirer who has been literally accused of man rape.

    What fine company you find yourself in by signing up to defend a mass murdering dwarf and a NYC tax cheat who only switched from being a Democrat after deciding to run for president. Cheers.

    Now tell yourself I must be a Jew because I thought this stupid 2.5 week operation would only lead to deaths of Orthodox men on both sides. You tell yourself I must be a sneaky Jew in the shadows. How many high level Jews in the West have had even a hangnail from this war ? A big fat zero? But I’m the Jew for saying it was all a dumb idea. Oh and Putin’s Jewish propagandist was in the news again. The one that Anglin and the other pro-Putin White nationalists never mention just as they don’t mention his close ties to Israel. Funny that.

    Idiot.

  25. @tyrone
    @Not Raul

    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.

    That’s not the only story Western media buried deep. There are several wars going on in Myanmar (Burma for the older readers) that are ignored.

    It is the usual pattern ever since “news” became pure propaganda. Remember gazillions of hospitals in Aleppo? Ever read about them after Syrian government kicked the bandits out of that city? Remember another Sudanese story, about Darfur? Used to be on the front lines every day. Never mentioned now. Remember a story about South Sudan? Things did not go as planned by the imperial meddlers, so it is not mentioned any more. Remember the covid thing? It was ~10% disease and 90% psyop. That’s the only reason Putin managed to cure the whole world of covid by starting SMO in Ukraine.

    If you read the news in the US, everything domestic is “Trump”, everything international is “Putin”. So it goes…

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Naked Capitalism covers Myanmar in the morning links at least twice a week.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN

    I wonder if Burma will break up as a result of the current civil war there. Unlikely, but impossible?

    , @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Remember the covid thing? It was ~10% disease and 90% psyop. That’s the only reason Putin managed to cure the whole world of covid by starting SMO in Ukraine.

    Well it shut down hospitals all over the world so it was not merely hype. I don't remember the last time the flu season ended up with mass graves dug by tractors in first world countries.

    COVID ended because of Omicron. It mutated into a less deadly form and by that time the original had killed off high risk individuals. We now know that certain gene sets make people vulnerable. It's actually similar to Spanish Flu in that genetically vulnerable individuals have an overreaction. Then there are the high risk groups where their lifestyle is the problem. Obese libertarian smokers that don't want the vaccine for example.

    If you read the news in the US, everything domestic is “Trump”, everything international is “Putin”. So it goes…

    So what? Putin launched a full scale war and is threatening nuclear destruction of the entire planet. Trump is running for president and is just a tad divisive. Of course they will be in the news a lot. An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet and a real estate fraud is running for president and has felonies pending. Not a fan of the MSM but I would call that news.

    Replies: @Derer

  26. @songbird
    @LatW

    As I recall, in Moby Dick, the chapters were interspersed with speculations about whales and creatures of the deep. Some of the knowledge at the time seemed quite primitive.

    And before that there was the folklore of the sea, created by fishermen and filled with strange possibilities.

    We can see clips of people diving with many of these whales on YouTube. Things beyond the imagination of Melville or the fishermen. And yet, despite all this new info, there still seems many strange rumors and mysteries.

    I hear tell, that sperm whales killed an orca near New Zealand. That their clicks are powerful enough to kill a person. And that if you dive with them, their sonar can heat you up like a microwave and you will feel the heat. And a diver put his hand out once and the click paralyzed it for four hours.
    https://youtu.be/zsDwFGz0Okg?si=h1vHxkKtqMfbf7pM

    Have heard humpbacks secret seals on their stomachs to protect them from killers. I thought surely that must be made up, then I saw a picture of it.

    Some say that whales can recognize individual divers from their sonar signature.

    Replies: @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard

    The Ronald Hutton dragon presentation is pretty great. He hypothesizes that dragons came into being (in the 900’s to 1400’s) from Job and from dinosaur fossils. Also he has some theory that a lack of natural scary alpha predators in Europe caused the fabled dragons to grow in ferocity compared with their Chinese cousins. The Chinese didn’t have to embellish their dragons with ferocity because they had tigers roaming around their countryside to fill this niche.

    • LOL: songbird
  27. @AnonfromTN
    @tyrone


    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.
     
    That’s not the only story Western media buried deep. There are several wars going on in Myanmar (Burma for the older readers) that are ignored.

    It is the usual pattern ever since “news” became pure propaganda. Remember gazillions of hospitals in Aleppo? Ever read about them after Syrian government kicked the bandits out of that city? Remember another Sudanese story, about Darfur? Used to be on the front lines every day. Never mentioned now. Remember a story about South Sudan? Things did not go as planned by the imperial meddlers, so it is not mentioned any more. Remember the covid thing? It was ~10% disease and 90% psyop. That's the only reason Putin managed to cure the whole world of covid by starting SMO in Ukraine.

    If you read the news in the US, everything domestic is "Trump", everything international is "Putin". So it goes…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    Naked Capitalism covers Myanmar in the morning links at least twice a week.

    • Thanks: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    What odds would you place of a Myanmar breakup?

  28. @AnonfromTN
    @tyrone


    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.
     
    That’s not the only story Western media buried deep. There are several wars going on in Myanmar (Burma for the older readers) that are ignored.

    It is the usual pattern ever since “news” became pure propaganda. Remember gazillions of hospitals in Aleppo? Ever read about them after Syrian government kicked the bandits out of that city? Remember another Sudanese story, about Darfur? Used to be on the front lines every day. Never mentioned now. Remember a story about South Sudan? Things did not go as planned by the imperial meddlers, so it is not mentioned any more. Remember the covid thing? It was ~10% disease and 90% psyop. That's the only reason Putin managed to cure the whole world of covid by starting SMO in Ukraine.

    If you read the news in the US, everything domestic is "Trump", everything international is "Putin". So it goes…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    I wonder if Burma will break up as a result of the current civil war there. Unlikely, but impossible?

  29. @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Oh I'm sorry did I post in the wrong forum? Pretty sure this is open thread.

    Did you know the judge in post #8 is a homosexual and is accused of raping a man? But you have a problem with my post?

    How is your leftist in the cat suit? There one where you called me a Jew for pointing out that he is not only a leftist but leads a Marxist party? Maybe hurry up and call me a Jew to get it out of your system. I think it has been over 24 hours.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Off-topic, but do you think that Biden should drop out of the 2024 race? I’m inclined to think so, as a precautionary measure, just so long as the candidate who replaces him is indeed likely to have a better shot of winning in 2024 than Biden himself does.

    Note: I’m not saying that Biden is incapable of winning in 2024. I’m just saying that it’s likely too risky to gamble on this, especially given Biden’s relatively narrow margins of victory in crucial swing states in 2020.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    OOff-topic, but do you think that Biden should drop out of the 2024 race? I’m inclined to think so, as a precautionary measure, just so long as the candidate who replaces him is indeed likely to have a better shot of winning in 2024 than Biden himself does.

    Absolutely. Both Trump and Biden would serve their parties by dropping out.

    Biden has really regressed in the last year. Polls show that any moderate Democrat has a much better chance at beating Trump.

    Unfortunately there is the possibility that Biden wants to win and hand off the presidency to Kamala. I view that as the worst case scenario and wouldn't put it past him. He has major White guilt issues.

    I’m just saying that it’s likely too risky to gamble on this, especially given Biden’s relatively narrow margins of victory in crucial swing states in 2020.

    It's indeed too risky if the goal is for the Democrats to beat Trump.

    Trump's best chance is against Biden. Independents in swing states only support Trump when forced between the two. Trump's gains should really be described as Biden's losses. No one is suddenly getting excited about Trump. He also polls much worse with White women than he did in the last election.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

  30. @A123
    It is a big day for SJW🏳️‍🌈Islam: (1)

    Far-Left Activist Shaun King Converts to Islam as Ramadan Starts: ‘My Heart Is with My Dearest Friends in Gaza’

     

    King self-identifies as black and was previously a Christian pastor. His career has long been plagued by allegations of financial misconduct, with major fundraising efforts failing to produce promised results. That pattern and a string of deceptive media hoaxes have made his name a punchline, ostracized from the Black Lives Matter movement.
    ...
    In 2020 he sparked controversy when he declared all statues of Jesus that portray him as a “white European” should be torn down because they are “a form of white supremacy,” as Breitbart News reported.
    ...
    Since 2015, King has claimed the Christian celebrations of Christmas and Easter are “tools of white supremacy.”

    He was ejected from the Black Lives Matter movement by its leaders in December 2015 over questions about the “integrity” of activist fundraising.
     

    Too racist for BLM... Becomes a Muslim. The warning to Judeo-Christian Americans is clear.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2024/03/11/far-left-activist-shaun-king-converts-to-islam-as-ramadan-starts-my-heart-is-with-my-dearest-friends-in-gaza/

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to “own the libs”. Some of them are already trying to do that right now, but by converting to Russian Orthodoxy instead lol.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to “own the libs”.

    Would be like when Blacks convert to Islam to spite Whites. Sounds fine in theory until they try it.

    Most would quit within a year after learning that they have to pray 5 times a day and can't have pork or beer. Nation of Islam really screwed up by keeping the pork restriction.

    Islam has pretty low voluntary conversion rates. Seems they do OK in prison where the restrictions are going to be less of an issue. A religion that does well in prison which says a lot.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to “own the libs”. Some of them are already trying to do that right now, but by converting to Russian Orthodoxy instead lol.
     
    In the U.S. and Europe, SJW🏳️‍🌈Islam is a PoC racist construct of progressive Leftoids. Currently, the most known political voice of Islam in America is Ilhan Omar.

    No one would "join the libs' to "own the libs".

    PEACE 😇
  31. @Not Raul
    @tyrone


    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep, everyone has forgot about Sudan.
     
    You’re welcome. Hopefully we can encourage Ron to come up with some new Sudan-related content.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Any chance that if Sudan will become destabilized enough then Darfur could successfully break away from Sudan just like South Sudan previously did?

    I wonder if Gore and not Bush had won in 2000, Gore and Europe would have been willing to do a repeat of Kosovo 1999 (military intervention)/2008 (independence) with Darfur. What do you think? I know that the Darfur genocide was a big cause celebre for the left in the mid-2000s or so. But Bush never contemplated any kind of US or NATO military intervention there because his hands were already tied with Iraq and, to some extent, Afghanistan as well.

    Darfur was actually its own sultanate until 1916, so it has a history of independence:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Darfur

    It lost its independence in 1916 because its sultan supported the Ottoman Empire during World War I. And even over a century later, Darfuris are still paying for their sultan’s mistake. Similar to just how long Algerians paid for their dey’s mistake in slapping the French ambassador back in 1827:

    https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/how-a-fly-whisk-led-to-the-invasion-of-a-country-78114b406119

    • Thanks: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Mr. XYZ

    Darfur probably could break away if they had a little help.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  32. @Mr. XYZ
    @Not Raul

    Any chance that if Sudan will become destabilized enough then Darfur could successfully break away from Sudan just like South Sudan previously did?

    I wonder if Gore and not Bush had won in 2000, Gore and Europe would have been willing to do a repeat of Kosovo 1999 (military intervention)/2008 (independence) with Darfur. What do you think? I know that the Darfur genocide was a big cause celebre for the left in the mid-2000s or so. But Bush never contemplated any kind of US or NATO military intervention there because his hands were already tied with Iraq and, to some extent, Afghanistan as well.

    Darfur was actually its own sultanate until 1916, so it has a history of independence:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Darfur

    It lost its independence in 1916 because its sultan supported the Ottoman Empire during World War I. And even over a century later, Darfuris are still paying for their sultan's mistake. Similar to just how long Algerians paid for their dey's mistake in slapping the French ambassador back in 1827:

    https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/how-a-fly-whisk-led-to-the-invasion-of-a-country-78114b406119

    Replies: @Not Raul

    Darfur probably could break away if they had a little help.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Not Raul

    Do you think that a US President Al Gore in 2001-2005/2009 would have provided Darfur with that kind of help, either with NATO or without NATO?

    Honestly, it does seem like the Kosovo precedent would apply for Darfur as well given the extremely atrocious human rights violations that Darfuris have suffered at Sudanese hands. And it seems like the Woke left should be eager to help since it's a bunch of black people who need it.

    Replies: @Not Raul

  33. @Not Raul
    @Mr. XYZ

    Darfur probably could break away if they had a little help.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Do you think that a US President Al Gore in 2001-2005/2009 would have provided Darfur with that kind of help, either with NATO or without NATO?

    Honestly, it does seem like the Kosovo precedent would apply for Darfur as well given the extremely atrocious human rights violations that Darfuris have suffered at Sudanese hands. And it seems like the Woke left should be eager to help since it’s a bunch of black people who need it.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Mr. XYZ


    Do you think that a US President Al Gore in 2001-2005/2009 would have provided Darfur with that kind of help, either with NATO or without NATO?
     
    I’m not sure. I guess I’d call it a coin toss.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  34. 75 orcas reportedly took about 3 hours to kill a 16 meter blue (seems pretty close to the size of a normal bull sperm whale)

    [MORE]

    Curious how it was unable to dive to escape.

    The sperm whale that sunk the Ann Alexander was alive five months later, so they can take quite an impact.

    Some believe that sperm whales somehow communicated how to avoid whalers in their whale song.

    The southern elephant seal can actually dive deeper than a sperm whale.

    The false killer whale has been known to offer divers fish.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Curious how it was unable to dive to escape.
     
    The orcas use a technique to hold the whale - from above, not to let it go up to get air, and from below that it doesn't get to dive down, it's amazing that they have the strength to do it against a much larger whale (they do this in a group). It is shown here starting at 2:25, it says here they can even flip it over:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NcpK8ho6v8&t=387s

    This whale is so huge and so scarred from orca scratches, poor thing.

    Btw, there is another somewhat strange piece of literature somewhat related to this, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe. They sail out of Cape Cod across the world, they have gloomy encounters in the sea, encounter strange ships & tribes, almost die, and at the very end they swim into a chasm where an enshrouded white figure appears in front of them.

    Replies: @S1, @songbird

    , @AP
    @songbird

    Unlike blue whales, sperm whales have teeth and they can ram whatever is in the water, so they would probably kill an orca or three in such a fight. Blue whales would be hard to kill due to their sheer size but they seem to otherwise be more harmless.

    I read that the extinct Stellar sea cows were immune to orca attack (as adults) because they were so buoyant that the orcas couldn’t submerge them, and so huge that they were impervious to other attacks. So despite being slow and dumb they lives easy lives with no predators. Sadly, they were slow and helpless against human harpoons.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

  35. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Off-topic, but do you think that Biden should drop out of the 2024 race? I'm inclined to think so, as a precautionary measure, just so long as the candidate who replaces him is indeed likely to have a better shot of winning in 2024 than Biden himself does.

    Note: I'm not saying that Biden is incapable of winning in 2024. I'm just saying that it's likely too risky to gamble on this, especially given Biden's relatively narrow margins of victory in crucial swing states in 2020.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    OOff-topic, but do you think that Biden should drop out of the 2024 race? I’m inclined to think so, as a precautionary measure, just so long as the candidate who replaces him is indeed likely to have a better shot of winning in 2024 than Biden himself does.

    Absolutely. Both Trump and Biden would serve their parties by dropping out.

    Biden has really regressed in the last year. Polls show that any moderate Democrat has a much better chance at beating Trump.

    Unfortunately there is the possibility that Biden wants to win and hand off the presidency to Kamala. I view that as the worst case scenario and wouldn’t put it past him. He has major White guilt issues.

    I’m just saying that it’s likely too risky to gamble on this, especially given Biden’s relatively narrow margins of victory in crucial swing states in 2020.

    It’s indeed too risky if the goal is for the Democrats to beat Trump.

    Trump’s best chance is against Biden. Independents in swing states only support Trump when forced between the two. Trump’s gains should really be described as Biden’s losses. No one is suddenly getting excited about Trump. He also polls much worse with White women than he did in the last election.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Trump is self-centered and power-hungry and will thus never drop out. Also, a lot of his supporters are crazy for him. He's literally their Orange Jesus. I suspect that they would pay a lot to have him go to the restroom in their houses because that's just how much they love him. Once he will die, his gravesite at his presidential library will certainly become a pilgrimage shrine and an extremely holy place for them, the US version of Jerusalem.


    Biden has really regressed in the last year. Polls show that any moderate Democrat has a much better chance at beating Trump.

     

    Regressed in the polls, mentally, or both?

    Unfortunately there is the possibility that Biden wants to win and hand off the presidency to Kamala. I view that as the worst case scenario and wouldn’t put it past him. He has major White guilt issues.
     
    I think that he would only voluntarily resign if he wins a second term if he will truly become non-functional, which is still a long way away.

    It’s indeed too risky if the goal is for the Democrats to beat Trump.

    Trump’s best chance is against Biden. Independents in swing states only support Trump when forced between the two. Trump’s gains should really be described as Biden’s losses. No one is suddenly getting excited about Trump. He also polls much worse with White women than he did in the last election.
     

    Do you think that Gavin Newsom would be a better candidate for the Democrats? What about Michelle Obama? I suspect that with her, Trump will try playing the Woke card like crazy and also make allusions to her relative stupidity* in comparison to her husband (she got into an elite US university due to both affirmative action and her elder brother being a sports star and she initially failed the bar exam and couldn't make partner even after she passed it on her second try).

    *Michelle's IQ might be in the 110 range. Which is in the top 2% for blacks, but in the top 25% or so for whites. So, 1 out of every 4 white people is smarter than Michelle is, which is a lot of whites! Meanwhile, half-white Barack is a true intellectual superstar for an African-American. I'm serious.

    I suspect that Gretchen Whitmer would be the best candidate for the Democrats in 2024. What do you think? I suspect that a lot of women will rally to her defense once Trump will inevitably try to fat-shame her. (She's not even that fat, but she still is curvy.)

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    It's also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/

    So, it will likely need to be some new Democratic candidate other than either one of these two. And there would need to be reliable polling confirming that this new candidate is indeed polling stronger than Biden. I know that Whitmer does in Michigan, but what about in the other swing states?

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson

  36. @Mr. XYZ
    @A123

    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to "own the libs". Some of them are already trying to do that right now, but by converting to Russian Orthodoxy instead lol.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to “own the libs”.

    Would be like when Blacks convert to Islam to spite Whites. Sounds fine in theory until they try it.

    Most would quit within a year after learning that they have to pray 5 times a day and can’t have pork or beer. Nation of Islam really screwed up by keeping the pork restriction.

    Islam has pretty low voluntary conversion rates. Seems they do OK in prison where the restrictions are going to be less of an issue. A religion that does well in prison which says a lot.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    TBF, there are ethical arguments against eating pork, or at least against eating a lot of pork. Pigs are fairly intelligent animals, after all. I'd argue that it would be desirable for US society to reduce its pork consumption by at least a factor of 1.3. That way, the suffering in it would be comparable to the suffering involved in chicken consumption.

    I personally rarely eat pork nowadays. I don't categorically avoid it, but it's not something that I usually eat either. It's much more of a rare treat.

  37. @AnonfromTN
    @tyrone


    Thanks , that whole story has been buried pretty deep ,everyone has forgot about Sudan.
     
    That’s not the only story Western media buried deep. There are several wars going on in Myanmar (Burma for the older readers) that are ignored.

    It is the usual pattern ever since “news” became pure propaganda. Remember gazillions of hospitals in Aleppo? Ever read about them after Syrian government kicked the bandits out of that city? Remember another Sudanese story, about Darfur? Used to be on the front lines every day. Never mentioned now. Remember a story about South Sudan? Things did not go as planned by the imperial meddlers, so it is not mentioned any more. Remember the covid thing? It was ~10% disease and 90% psyop. That's the only reason Putin managed to cure the whole world of covid by starting SMO in Ukraine.

    If you read the news in the US, everything domestic is "Trump", everything international is "Putin". So it goes…

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    Remember the covid thing? It was ~10% disease and 90% psyop. That’s the only reason Putin managed to cure the whole world of covid by starting SMO in Ukraine.

    Well it shut down hospitals all over the world so it was not merely hype. I don’t remember the last time the flu season ended up with mass graves dug by tractors in first world countries.

    COVID ended because of Omicron. It mutated into a less deadly form and by that time the original had killed off high risk individuals. We now know that certain gene sets make people vulnerable. It’s actually similar to Spanish Flu in that genetically vulnerable individuals have an overreaction. Then there are the high risk groups where their lifestyle is the problem. Obese libertarian smokers that don’t want the vaccine for example.

    If you read the news in the US, everything domestic is “Trump”, everything international is “Putin”. So it goes…

    So what? Putin launched a full scale war and is threatening nuclear destruction of the entire planet. Trump is running for president and is just a tad divisive. Of course they will be in the news a lot. An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet and a real estate fraud is running for president and has felonies pending. Not a fan of the MSM but I would call that news.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson


    An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet
     
    Gee, such a power, I sense some fear in your exaggeration - first thing is you grab some diapers.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  38. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to “own the libs”.

    Would be like when Blacks convert to Islam to spite Whites. Sounds fine in theory until they try it.

    Most would quit within a year after learning that they have to pray 5 times a day and can't have pork or beer. Nation of Islam really screwed up by keeping the pork restriction.

    Islam has pretty low voluntary conversion rates. Seems they do OK in prison where the restrictions are going to be less of an issue. A religion that does well in prison which says a lot.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    TBF, there are ethical arguments against eating pork, or at least against eating a lot of pork. Pigs are fairly intelligent animals, after all. I’d argue that it would be desirable for US society to reduce its pork consumption by at least a factor of 1.3. That way, the suffering in it would be comparable to the suffering involved in chicken consumption.

    I personally rarely eat pork nowadays. I don’t categorically avoid it, but it’s not something that I usually eat either. It’s much more of a rare treat.

  39. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    OOff-topic, but do you think that Biden should drop out of the 2024 race? I’m inclined to think so, as a precautionary measure, just so long as the candidate who replaces him is indeed likely to have a better shot of winning in 2024 than Biden himself does.

    Absolutely. Both Trump and Biden would serve their parties by dropping out.

    Biden has really regressed in the last year. Polls show that any moderate Democrat has a much better chance at beating Trump.

    Unfortunately there is the possibility that Biden wants to win and hand off the presidency to Kamala. I view that as the worst case scenario and wouldn't put it past him. He has major White guilt issues.

    I’m just saying that it’s likely too risky to gamble on this, especially given Biden’s relatively narrow margins of victory in crucial swing states in 2020.

    It's indeed too risky if the goal is for the Democrats to beat Trump.

    Trump's best chance is against Biden. Independents in swing states only support Trump when forced between the two. Trump's gains should really be described as Biden's losses. No one is suddenly getting excited about Trump. He also polls much worse with White women than he did in the last election.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

    Trump is self-centered and power-hungry and will thus never drop out. Also, a lot of his supporters are crazy for him. He’s literally their Orange Jesus. I suspect that they would pay a lot to have him go to the restroom in their houses because that’s just how much they love him. Once he will die, his gravesite at his presidential library will certainly become a pilgrimage shrine and an extremely holy place for them, the US version of Jerusalem.

    Biden has really regressed in the last year. Polls show that any moderate Democrat has a much better chance at beating Trump.

    Regressed in the polls, mentally, or both?

    Unfortunately there is the possibility that Biden wants to win and hand off the presidency to Kamala. I view that as the worst case scenario and wouldn’t put it past him. He has major White guilt issues.

    I think that he would only voluntarily resign if he wins a second term if he will truly become non-functional, which is still a long way away.

    It’s indeed too risky if the goal is for the Democrats to beat Trump.

    Trump’s best chance is against Biden. Independents in swing states only support Trump when forced between the two. Trump’s gains should really be described as Biden’s losses. No one is suddenly getting excited about Trump. He also polls much worse with White women than he did in the last election.

    Do you think that Gavin Newsom would be a better candidate for the Democrats? What about Michelle Obama? I suspect that with her, Trump will try playing the Woke card like crazy and also make allusions to her relative stupidity* in comparison to her husband (she got into an elite US university due to both affirmative action and her elder brother being a sports star and she initially failed the bar exam and couldn’t make partner even after she passed it on her second try).

    *Michelle’s IQ might be in the 110 range. Which is in the top 2% for blacks, but in the top 25% or so for whites. So, 1 out of every 4 white people is smarter than Michelle is, which is a lot of whites! Meanwhile, half-white Barack is a true intellectual superstar for an African-American. I’m serious.

    I suspect that Gretchen Whitmer would be the best candidate for the Democrats in 2024. What do you think? I suspect that a lot of women will rally to her defense once Trump will inevitably try to fat-shame her. (She’s not even that fat, but she still is curvy.)

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Trump is self-centered and power-hungry and will thus never drop out. Also, a lot of his supporters are crazy for him. He’s literally their Orange Jesus.

    Completely agree but a judge could ban him from Federal employment. It would in fact be expected if any other Federal employee had this many felonies over classified documents.

    Regressed in the polls, mentally, or both?

    I meant mentally but he is down in the polls with independents from a year ago.

    I think that he would only voluntarily resign if he wins a second term if he will truly become non-functional, which is still a long way away.

    I'm not saying I think it will happen. I am just saying the possibility exists that he is running a White guilt move. This is the same White guilter that claimed a Black man invented the light bulb in a speech.

    Do you think that Gavin Newsom would be a better candidate for the Democrats?

    The long running rumor is that there is too much dirt on him and the California Republicans didn't dig hard enough when he ran for governor. I don't like the guy but he would be better than Biden. However that rumor had been around a while and his answers regarding the presidency have been evasive. He is an ego maniac and the fact that he is hesitant to run means the rumor is most likely true.

    What about Michelle Obama?

    Terrible candidate. She is not analogous to Hillary Clinton. Might as well elect Martha Stewart. Michelle has zero political experience.

    I suspect that Gretchen Whitmer would be the best candidate for the Democrats in 2024. What do you think? I suspect that a lot of women will rally to her defense once Trump will inevitably try to fat-shame her.

    Not a bad candidate but I think the outsider Democrat business executive would be the better play.

  40. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Naked Capitalism covers Myanmar in the morning links at least twice a week.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    What odds would you place of a Myanmar breakup?

  41. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    OOff-topic, but do you think that Biden should drop out of the 2024 race? I’m inclined to think so, as a precautionary measure, just so long as the candidate who replaces him is indeed likely to have a better shot of winning in 2024 than Biden himself does.

    Absolutely. Both Trump and Biden would serve their parties by dropping out.

    Biden has really regressed in the last year. Polls show that any moderate Democrat has a much better chance at beating Trump.

    Unfortunately there is the possibility that Biden wants to win and hand off the presidency to Kamala. I view that as the worst case scenario and wouldn't put it past him. He has major White guilt issues.

    I’m just saying that it’s likely too risky to gamble on this, especially given Biden’s relatively narrow margins of victory in crucial swing states in 2020.

    It's indeed too risky if the goal is for the Democrats to beat Trump.

    Trump's best chance is against Biden. Independents in swing states only support Trump when forced between the two. Trump's gains should really be described as Biden's losses. No one is suddenly getting excited about Trump. He also polls much worse with White women than he did in the last election.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

    It’s also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/

    So, it will likely need to be some new Democratic candidate other than either one of these two. And there would need to be reliable polling confirming that this new candidate is indeed polling stronger than Biden. I know that Whitmer does in Michigan, but what about in the other swing states?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    It’s also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/
     

    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out. Part of winning elections is activating base voters and getting them to turn out.
    ___

    The DNC is stuck in a trap of their own making. Even if they somehow convince the Veggie-In-Chief to stand down, that leaves them with Not-The-VP Harris. Passing over her for a white male patriarch, such as Newsom, would schism the party. Michelle Obama has stated multiple times that she will not run. What other PoC female can they find? AOC perhaps?

    The smart play for the Democrats would have been running a competitive primary to replace Not-The-President Biden. However, the window on that closed months ago.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    It’s also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does
    ..
    So, it will likely need to be some new Democratic candidate other than either one of these two.

    I don't think either are good candidates. Voters probably remember Newsom from COVID. The rejection of Harris is honestly good news. It shows how many Democrats know that she is worthless even if she hits the gender and race boxes.

    And there would need to be reliable polling confirming that this new candidate is indeed polling stronger than Biden. I know that Whitmer does in Michigan, but what about in the other swing states?

    I honestly wouldn't spend that much time on it.

    Biden would have to announce a plan to retire first.

    We could get a situation where Democrat primary electors make the decision on their own. Meaning it happens late enough to where they pledge their votes without regard to what their state wants. I also don't know what kind of contingency plan exists.

    As I said before we won't know the final candidates until around September. In fact it is possible for both Biden and Trump to drop. Biden quits and Trump gets barred from office or quits after getting a prison sentence.

  42. Burns & Biden

    Re: Three Below Linked Pieces

    CIA Director William Burns just testified that the Kiev regime is in danger of losing to Russia if it doesn’t get the Biden Admin proposed aid.

    This past July, Burns’ boss said that Russia already lost. Burns comes across as someone jockeying with the reality of an eventual Russian victory over neocon/neolib mischief making. In 2008, he cautiously said that trying to get Ukraine in NATO is a red line for Russia.

    As the recently resigned Victoria Nuland noted, most of the proposed aid to the Kiev regime will actually go to the US military industrial complex. (Nuland has since landed a gig at Columbia University, which already has Hillary Clinton.) The false image that the Kiev regime can win with more aid serves as cover for a corrupt defense spending racket. This aid will not suddenly release a dramatic increase in arms. The weapons have to be produced and operated by experienced personnel. This situation takes time, which the Kiev regime doesn’t have too much of.

    As previously noted with some additions:

    The US outspends the next seven leading nations in defense spending combined. Five of the ten leading defense spenders are NATO members. The US outspends Russia and China by a combined three to one margin.

    Yet Russia produces artillery shells and tanks at a much better rate than what the collective West can give to the corrupt, lying, undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced Kiev regime, which has blood on its hands before and after 2/24/22. The NYT puts Russia at a seven to one advantage in artillery shell production over the entire collective West.

    Kiev regime forces have been severely decimated with not enough in terms of new recruits, along with limited properly trained personnel. With considerably less losses and much more in reserve, Russia is poised for victory.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/us/politics/intelligence-officials-ukraine-aid.html

    https://carnegieendowment.org/pdf/back-channel/2008EmailtoRice1.pdf

    • Agree: tyrone
    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    The NYT number of 7x is a distortion of Shoigu's report to Putin that Rostec had increased production by 7x. Not the same thing at all.

    Rostec was in 5th place in Europe for shell production before the war. Going from a half shift to 4 shift working could increase potential production 7x but in the real world there would be recruitment and training time to consider. A brand new factory with access to European forging equipment and chemical processing capital equipment might be built in 18 months.

    The Europeans ahead of Rostec in production capability have prior commitments to orders placed before the war. They also use a 6 month settling down period before checking shell quality and adding fuses. So they weren't delivering until September last year. BAe Systems near me has expanded production lines at its shell filling plant without asking the local authority for permission. About 50% more capacity. It was single shift. Given a big enough order, it too can expand to maybe 4 times production. Then General Dynamics, Rheinmetall and NAMMO, all bigger in ammo than Rostec. NAMMO didn't have enough electrical supply to expand at its Norwegian plant as a data centre had been built at the end of the same power line spur. NAMMO has now transferred some equipment and personnel to a site in Sweden. Production is ramping up but there is the 6 month delay. The large reopened Bulgarian plant to make Soviet calibres is in the final stages of start up but QA of packed cases will mean that it is 6 months before their ammo is deliverable. The EU/NATO EUrope capacity is very large but it is not yet wholly available to Ukraine. The flow is increasing month by month though as other order obligations are worked off and the new capacity finally gets delivered.

    France was on the left foot. They are expanding capacity. Italy has minor capabilty. Serbia, Egypt, Pakistan are all selling to Ukraine. All seem to be using full QA so delivery is delayed.

    Russia might tolerate shell failure as their technique is area bombardment rather than precision targetting. Also delivery of any shells may have a priority than perfect shells. The new NATO production is going to its own armies and the older stock is being sent to NATO. So QA can't be skipped for NATO production. The US seems to have upped production at Scranton anyway.

    So in no more than 6 months, there will be a considerable increase in shell deliveries to Ukraine. Russia has already had its 1m shells (3m assumes all containers were filled with shells) from NK. Iran is a ? but not at the level of millions. Putin has until midsummer to acheive at least one war aim so that he can negotiate and claim victory.

    Replies: @QCIC, @sudden death

  43. @songbird
    75 orcas reportedly took about 3 hours to kill a 16 meter blue (seems pretty close to the size of a normal bull sperm whale)
    https://youtu.be/CxTsoD86Ego?si=Jutq8fkg9G4e4y7j

    Curious how it was unable to dive to escape.

    The sperm whale that sunk the Ann Alexander was alive five months later, so they can take quite an impact.

    Some believe that sperm whales somehow communicated how to avoid whalers in their whale song.

    The southern elephant seal can actually dive deeper than a sperm whale.

    The false killer whale has been known to offer divers fish.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    Curious how it was unable to dive to escape.

    The orcas use a technique to hold the whale – from above, not to let it go up to get air, and from below that it doesn’t get to dive down, it’s amazing that they have the strength to do it against a much larger whale (they do this in a group). It is shown here starting at 2:25, it says here they can even flip it over:

    [MORE]

    This whale is so huge and so scarred from orca scratches, poor thing.

    Btw, there is another somewhat strange piece of literature somewhat related to this, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe. They sail out of Cape Cod across the world, they have gloomy encounters in the sea, encounter strange ships & tribes, almost die, and at the very end they swim into a chasm where an enshrouded white figure appears in front of them.

    • Replies: @S1
    @LatW


    Btw, there is another somewhat strange piece of literature somewhat related to this, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe.
     
    I'd not heard of that one before. Thanks. Poe was kind of cool in his way, though seems to have lived a hard life.

    I've always liked The Tell-Tale Heart and The Fall of the House of Usher. As a kid I happened to see The Pit and the Pendelum starring Vincent Price, which I found to be particularly disturbing.

    No doubt Poe would have seen that as a resounding success on his part! :-D



    https://youtu.be/VbcaRyX9TpY?si=-bdX3VnBDTVJNawz

    Replies: @LatW

    , @songbird
    @LatW

    It is funny how killers eat all these endangered animals. Though I wonder if the fish ones would be healthier and have less chemicals in them.

    In folklore, there are tales of sea monsters fighting, and perhaps that could be related to these big battles fought by killers.

    Perhaps, the Roman Empire would have industrialized, if there had been more whales in the Med. The story of Porphyrious is interesting:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyrios_(whale)

    Some believe it was a monstrous-sized killer. It attacked ships in the Bosporus which sounds similar to those Gibraltar whales.


    The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe
     
    Someone else once mentioned that story on this site, and I was surprised by it. (They predicted they would cancel Poe over it - they had just put up his statue recently in Boston.). But I felt confident that nobody would care, as nobody reads it. Incidentally, I think I was confusing it with another of his longer stories involving a man who flies with the aid of balloons or a balloon, but it is still true enough, I think.

    BTW, Lovecraft seems to have a surprising cultural footprint in modern times despite more famously being a racialist. (Am sure Poe was too, but it was more assumed back then)

    Replies: @songbird, @LatW

  44. @QCIC
    The Red Heifer is on A123's beat. He previously explained the significance of the animal and linked to a helpful South Park episode.

    Mr. A123, can you now explain the significance of the Third Temple and the red heifer to evangelical Christians? Is the speaker in the video correct in his description of a tension between the differing views of Jews and Evangelical Christians of what is supposed to transpire once the temple is constructed?

    Replies: @A123, @Another Polish Perspective

    Revelation’s “Third Temple” is obviously some kind of spaceship/space station of alien gods.

    21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God

    It seems it is designed to orbit together with Nibiru, as there is no day/night there (as is on Nibiru).

    21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

    21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

    And no human construct could fulfil the tree of life/water of life requirement.

    22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

    22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

    Besides, there is some fake “Third Temple” already in Israel which is the Bahai Temple in Haifa, built on the Mount Carmel (!), where Jesus was transfigured. Pretty shocking that the central temple of Bahai was built in Israel. actually.

  45. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    The scion of Chaos Magic, Peter Carroll, has a fortune cookie recipe for magical operations time frames: divine short and enchant long. Predicting what is going to happen tomorrow is many orders of magnitude easier than prophesying the end of time. The latter is basically impossible.

    Some bible scholars propose that the Revelation vision has already been fulfilled. The events described in the book are supposed to be the Roman destruction of the Jewish colony in the second century A.D. in their view. If you want to study this in depth you can spend your entire working life down in the rabbit hole.

    Aliens are more fun.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Revelation is not so difficult to understand – the main problem is with “the Beast” etc.,but is obviously some incarnation/avatar of Satan – but as Judeochristan document, it is very uncomfortable for Christians since it is not in tune with the rest of mainly Paulian New Testament. Moreover, it is very graphic and suggest catastrophes falling upon the entire planet of Earth, unlike any book of the Bible (except the Flood in Genesis).

    It clearly says that only limited number of Jews and only Jews will be saved (144000) and there are many false Jews around (“those who call themselves Jews but are not”). This is very fatalistic. It is not a template for universal, catholic faith full of compassion etc.

    Therefore highly allegoric interpretations were developed to cloud the fact that the judgmental God of the Old Testament will return and – judge. And even conversion to Judaism will not save you;)

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Moreover, those 144000 are to be exclusively male, maybe even boys ("do not know women"), which would make sense from aliens POV as you would like humans without pre-conceived ideas about the world (eg. where aliens officially do not exist).
    This is consistent with the patrilineality of biblical Judaism - but what message does it send to women...?
    And women, especially widows who bequeathed their property to Church, were a sizeable pillar of the early Church.

    As a consolation, because Talmudic Judaism has forsaken patrilineality for matrilineality and accepted many converts through ages (thus invalidating any current Jewish genealogy), as long as you are white heterosexual male you can have slight hope that maybe you are a real Jew...
    Only Jahwe knows.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Another Polish Perspective


    It clearly says . . .
     
    Clearly you want to open this can of worms. Better luck winning a debate on Palestine and Israel at the United Nations.

    These guys have written a couple of thousand books so far. And they are still going at it like the Energizer Bunny. Do they have the Energizer Bunny on Polish television?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  46. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Revelation is not so difficult to understand - the main problem is with "the Beast" etc.,but is obviously some incarnation/avatar of Satan - but as Judeochristan document, it is very uncomfortable for Christians since it is not in tune with the rest of mainly Paulian New Testament. Moreover, it is very graphic and suggest catastrophes falling upon the entire planet of Earth, unlike any book of the Bible (except the Flood in Genesis).

    It clearly says that only limited number of Jews and only Jews will be saved (144000) and there are many false Jews around ("those who call themselves Jews but are not"). This is very fatalistic. It is not a template for universal, catholic faith full of compassion etc.

    Therefore highly allegoric interpretations were developed to cloud the fact that the judgmental God of the Old Testament will return and - judge. And even conversion to Judaism will not save you;)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Moreover, those 144000 are to be exclusively male, maybe even boys (“do not know women”), which would make sense from aliens POV as you would like humans without pre-conceived ideas about the world (eg. where aliens officially do not exist).
    This is consistent with the patrilineality of biblical Judaism – but what message does it send to women…?
    And women, especially widows who bequeathed their property to Church, were a sizeable pillar of the early Church.

    As a consolation, because Talmudic Judaism has forsaken patrilineality for matrilineality and accepted many converts through ages (thus invalidating any current Jewish genealogy), as long as you are white heterosexual male you can have slight hope that maybe you are a real Jew…
    Only Jahwe knows.

  47. Israel to send secret weapon to Ukraine.

    It’s called a Horowitzer 10cm gun. Designed by Portnoy & Rapoport. On firing it emits a high energy whine about its small barrel length and comparisons between Hitler & Putin, and how it is going to have its revenge on the Czar.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Drone kills 2 Russian regulars that were caught buttf-cking
    https://funker530.com/video/nsfw-russians-literally-caught-with-their-pants-down-by-bomb-drones/

    Good thing the Russians are saving Ukrainians from Western degeneracy by killing them.

    Russians caught buttf-cking before trying to kill their fellow Slavs.

    This 2.5 week special operation is doing wonders for Russia's image.

    First Russian troops were on video stealing washing machines and now they were buttf-cking before the dwarf reaper ends their under-tank pleasure palace.

    Did you figure out how this war will stick it to the Jews that you hate so much? Two years later and you still don't have an explanation. Putin's Jewish propagandist makes weekly demands to attack Britain and yet you still want to believe this stupid war somehow sticks it to the Jews or that Ukraine is the Jewish side.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  48. @LatW
    @songbird


    Curious how it was unable to dive to escape.
     
    The orcas use a technique to hold the whale - from above, not to let it go up to get air, and from below that it doesn't get to dive down, it's amazing that they have the strength to do it against a much larger whale (they do this in a group). It is shown here starting at 2:25, it says here they can even flip it over:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NcpK8ho6v8&t=387s

    This whale is so huge and so scarred from orca scratches, poor thing.

    Btw, there is another somewhat strange piece of literature somewhat related to this, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe. They sail out of Cape Cod across the world, they have gloomy encounters in the sea, encounter strange ships & tribes, almost die, and at the very end they swim into a chasm where an enshrouded white figure appears in front of them.

    Replies: @S1, @songbird

    Btw, there is another somewhat strange piece of literature somewhat related to this, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe.

    I’d not heard of that one before. Thanks. Poe was kind of cool in his way, though seems to have lived a hard life.

    I’ve always liked The Tell-Tale Heart and The Fall of the House of Usher. As a kid I happened to see The Pit and the Pendelum starring Vincent Price, which I found to be particularly disturbing.

    No doubt Poe would have seen that as a resounding success on his part! 😀

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @LatW
    @S1


    I’d not heard of that one before.
     
    This one is not the most typical of his work, in terms of its form (he mostly has short stories and poems, but this one is his only finished novel and it is a kind of a travelogue with a lot of geographic detail). But there are a few flashes of his typical style in it as well (some horror, haunting scenes, the apparition in the end).

    A lot of his writing is truly crazy so it's best to take it in in small doses (otherwise it's too heavy for the soul), so that's why these short stories are good.


    Poe was kind of cool in his way, though seems to have lived a hard life.
     
    Tbh, these types are not always very functional, they are too sensitive (and can be difficult in personal life, thus they often sabotage their own happiness, I'm not saying it was him, in his case, he may have just been too artsy or introspective). But he lost his family early on, so that's really heavy.

    The Tell-Tale Heart is of course among the more famous ones, a classic, it's in first person, and it's interesting how much of his own subjective feelings he put in it (he may have had anxiety), but it sounds almost a bit clinical.

    The Raven is probably the most famous. In that poem, there is a theme, a repetitive sound ("the tapping") similar to how there is the beating of the heart in the other one. The images he conjures up are scary, but his language so beautiful that it pulls one back to the story. I can only tolerate this type of horror in writing, not on video. Although I love these types of settings (castles, a silver chalice, etc). In The Raven there is an open window, with curtains flowing in the wind which is kind of disturbing, etc. Images that inspire yearning, etc. It's all there.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @S1

  49. @Mr. XYZ
    @A123

    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to "own the libs". Some of them are already trying to do that right now, but by converting to Russian Orthodoxy instead lol.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    Would be even funnier if Western conservatives began converting to Islam to “own the libs”. Some of them are already trying to do that right now, but by converting to Russian Orthodoxy instead lol.

    In the U.S. and Europe, SJW🏳️‍🌈Islam is a PoC racist construct of progressive Leftoids. Currently, the most known political voice of Islam in America is Ilhan Omar.

    No one would “join the libs’ to “own the libs”.

    PEACE 😇

  50. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    It's also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/

    So, it will likely need to be some new Democratic candidate other than either one of these two. And there would need to be reliable polling confirming that this new candidate is indeed polling stronger than Biden. I know that Whitmer does in Michigan, but what about in the other swing states?

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson

    It’s also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/

    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out. Part of winning elections is activating base voters and getting them to turn out.
    ___

    The DNC is stuck in a trap of their own making. Even if they somehow convince the Veggie-In-Chief to stand down, that leaves them with Not-The-VP Harris. Passing over her for a white male patriarch, such as Newsom, would schism the party. Michelle Obama has stated multiple times that she will not run. What other PoC female can they find? AOC perhaps?

    The smart play for the Democrats would have been running a competitive primary to replace Not-The-President Biden. However, the window on that closed months ago.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out.

    That's not true.

    Haley does better against Biden in a proposed match up.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/09/haley-electability-trump-biden-polls-00130926

    Just about anyone takes more independents than Trump.

    Republican primary voters are once again not looking at the data and have goo-goo eyes for Trump. They want Trump to win more than they want to do what is best for the country. It is more of a second coming situation where they think he will come back for his reign of glory. Watch some of the interviews on youtube where they ask Trump voters about his pending felonies. They are completely clueless and think it is all a conspiracy. They don't know how bad their orange TV reality star screwed up.

    The DNC is stuck in a trap of their own making. Even if they somehow convince the Veggie-In-Chief to stand down, that leaves them with Not-The-VP Harris. Passing over her for a white male patriarch, such as Newsom, would schism the party.

    Both the DNC and Harris know that Harris is in over her head.

    She is not a random AA hire that can hack it with some scripts.

    It's entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her. She may even want to leave. Harris avoids interviews and any sort of responsibility. She was a media White guilt pick and everyone knows it. The DNC would prefer Newsom over a slightly colored Woman that completely embarrasses herself in every interview. They obviously support Affirmative Action but not when it makes a daily joke of it. Obama had a White speech writer and would still flub a bit when off script but the cameras could hide it. Harris would be a media nightmare. There is no amount of spin that could hide it all. Just watch her French accent video. It would be cringe for four years.

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123

  51. @LatW
    @songbird


    Curious how it was unable to dive to escape.
     
    The orcas use a technique to hold the whale - from above, not to let it go up to get air, and from below that it doesn't get to dive down, it's amazing that they have the strength to do it against a much larger whale (they do this in a group). It is shown here starting at 2:25, it says here they can even flip it over:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NcpK8ho6v8&t=387s

    This whale is so huge and so scarred from orca scratches, poor thing.

    Btw, there is another somewhat strange piece of literature somewhat related to this, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe. They sail out of Cape Cod across the world, they have gloomy encounters in the sea, encounter strange ships & tribes, almost die, and at the very end they swim into a chasm where an enshrouded white figure appears in front of them.

    Replies: @S1, @songbird

    It is funny how killers eat all these endangered animals. Though I wonder if the fish ones would be healthier and have less chemicals in them.

    [MORE]

    In folklore, there are tales of sea monsters fighting, and perhaps that could be related to these big battles fought by killers.

    Perhaps, the Roman Empire would have industrialized, if there had been more whales in the Med. The story of Porphyrious is interesting:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyrios_(whale)

    Some believe it was a monstrous-sized killer. It attacked ships in the Bosporus which sounds similar to those Gibraltar whales.

    The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe

    Someone else once mentioned that story on this site, and I was surprised by it. (They predicted they would cancel Poe over it – they had just put up his statue recently in Boston.). But I felt confident that nobody would care, as nobody reads it. Incidentally, I think I was confusing it with another of his longer stories involving a man who flies with the aid of balloons or a balloon, but it is still true enough, I think.

    BTW, Lovecraft seems to have a surprising cultural footprint in modern times despite more famously being a racialist. (Am sure Poe was too, but it was more assumed back then)

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    One recent estimate of the number of sperm whales in the Med was 1,842, which is actually way, way higher than I thought.
    https://journal.iwc.int/index.php/jcrm/article/view/437

    Though, they seem about 1/10 as common in the Eastern Med compared to the Western.

    Perhaps, Porphyrios was a sperm whale. But it seems kind of hard to find reports of sperm whales attacking ships in modern times.

    As I recall, there was some speculation that what set the whale off that attacked the whaleship Essex was the smith hammering. (Which may have emulated the loudness of another male.)

    Could the clapperboard on a galley have set it off? But I think thought it also attacked other ships, without rowers.

    I suspect that the name was meant to reflect its large size and not its color.

    , @LatW
    @songbird


    It is funny how killers eat all these endangered animals.
     
    Yes, it's pretty crazy, it's like a Porsche totaling a Lamborghini. From today's perspective, you feel it as a loss, but it must have been intended so in the Nature, although there are changes in their habitat, so who knows what is natural and right and what isn't. Apparently, there used to be pre-historic orcas as well, or some kind of an orca ancestor. And they may have fought with ancient whales. Orcas are a sacred animal.

    Though I wonder if the fish ones would be healthier and have less chemicals in them.
     
    Contamination is a big problem for them (as is industrial noise), they are themselves contaminated apparently, and some of them are running out of salmon, which is totally lame. :(

    They predicted they would cancel Poe over it – they had just put up his statue recently in Boston
     
    Well, did they want to cancel him? I wonder why there wouldn't be a statue to him in Boston long ago. That particular book does have some "racism" in it, don't know how deliberate or just widely held views of that time. Poe cannot be cancelled because he lives in his own dimension. He is a cult writer among European goths, btw. I had a volume of his books that had been published in the 1920s, but I sold it to an acquaintance. I almost want it back now.

    Replies: @songbird

  52. AP says:
    @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Off-topic, but what are your thoughts on Orban saying that Trump will end the Ukraine War by cutting off all US aid to Ukraine?

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/europe/orban-trump-ukraine-intl/index.html

    These are the red flags that are worrying me. Specifically comments like these and others by some of Trump's biggest supporters. The far-left is also anti-Ukraine, but they're not hardcore Biden fans like the far-right are hardcore Trump fans.

    Replies: @AP

    If true, it disqualifies him from the presidency but with Trump, who knows what he will do.

    Trump has been pushing a pro-Ukraine guy in the senate primary in Michigan, against Justin Amash.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/donald-trump-endorses-mike-rogers-in-michigan-us-senate-race/

    Overall Trump is too much of a risk, despite voting for him in 2020 I’ll likely be voting for Biden. Trump is likely to be just as ineffective on domestic issues as he was last time, plus is very risky on foreign policy. But I won’t be completely surprised if he ends up disappointing Putin’s bootlickers.

    Mike Rogers:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3916018-the-republican-party-of-reagan-would-be-ukraines-strongest-supporters/

    [MORE]

    True leadership is about explaining our country’s role in the world and the importance of what happens beyond our borders to our citizens — Reagan knew this and was able to communicate the importance of contesting the Soviet Union at every turn.

    Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R-Fla.) attempt last week to frame Ukraine’s heroic struggle for freedom from Russian tyranny, one that has left thousands of Ukrainian men, women and children dead, and displaced nearly a third of the nation, as a “territorial dispute” is not only wrong it is the kind of dangerous rhetoric that sends a clear signal to Moscow (one which they will exploit) that they need only wait and steel their resolve before American attention wanes.

    Our support to Ukraine is about America defending global peace and, thereby, ensuring our own freedom and economic prosperity. It is about ensuring the sovereignty of a democratic country in Europe today to avoid the cascade of conflict that would follow not just there but throughout the Indo-Pacific region as well. Reagan would recognize this truth, just as he saw the truth of the Soviet Union and its hollowness, and it is time that our Republican Party recognize it as well and explain it to the American people.
    Having served on and chaired the House Intelligence Committee during some of our nation’s most perilous times, I can share without hesitation the knowledge that our enemies closely scrutinize every action and every word of our leaders looking for an opening. Beyond Moscow, Beijing too has its eye fixed squarely on Ukraine to gauge America’s willingness and ability to rally the world and our military allies in the defense of freedom.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    With Biden we're back to this:

    https://thebridgehead.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Kurelek_8-707x1024.jpg

    "Our My Lai, the Massacre at Highland Creek (1973)," by William Kurelek the Canadian Norman Rockwell and considered by many to be Canada's greatest artist of the 20th century.

    Replies: @sudden death

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Justin Amash was a big critic of Trump and left the GOP several years ago:

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/5/20683110/justin-amash-leaves-gop-donald-trump-michigan

    He also voted to impeach Trump in 2019:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/31/politics/amash-vote-yes-impeachment-resolution/index.html

    I suspect that these are much bigger factors in Trump's decision to support Mike Rogers for Michigan's US Senate seat than any views that Amash has on Ukraine (which I doubt that Trump cares too much about).

    BTW, off-topic, but I wonder why Trump supported Mehmet Oz over David McCormick for Pennsylvania's US Senate seat in 2022? Was it because Trump felt more connected to Oz due to them both being celebrities? Was it an attempt to portray the GOP as a big-tent party due to Oz being Muslim (indeed, the first Muslim candidate ever nominated for the US Senate by either major US political party)?

  53. AP says:
    @songbird
    75 orcas reportedly took about 3 hours to kill a 16 meter blue (seems pretty close to the size of a normal bull sperm whale)
    https://youtu.be/CxTsoD86Ego?si=Jutq8fkg9G4e4y7j

    Curious how it was unable to dive to escape.

    The sperm whale that sunk the Ann Alexander was alive five months later, so they can take quite an impact.

    Some believe that sperm whales somehow communicated how to avoid whalers in their whale song.

    The southern elephant seal can actually dive deeper than a sperm whale.

    The false killer whale has been known to offer divers fish.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    Unlike blue whales, sperm whales have teeth and they can ram whatever is in the water, so they would probably kill an orca or three in such a fight. Blue whales would be hard to kill due to their sheer size but they seem to otherwise be more harmless.

    I read that the extinct Stellar sea cows were immune to orca attack (as adults) because they were so buoyant that the orcas couldn’t submerge them, and so huge that they were impervious to other attacks. So despite being slow and dumb they lives easy lives with no predators. Sadly, they were slow and helpless against human harpoons.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    Blue whales would be hard to kill due to their sheer size but they seem to otherwise be more harmless.
     
    A tail that breaches and comes back down ("the hand of God") could probably be deadly, but it might be very hard to employ, as biosonar creates a more forward field of view. And the orcas swarm which impedes maneuverability.

    Sperm whales ramming might not work too well either as killers are very fast. But perhaps this might be different if there was more than one to confuse the killers.

    Wish we knew more about that fight where they reportedly killed an orca. The marguerite formation reminds me of a picture of triceratops I once saw defending their nests, when I was nearly five. (Can date it pretty well because I was on a plane.). Of course, they were facing the other direction.

    I read that the extinct Stellar sea cows were immune to orca attack
     
    Probably the Eskimo really devastated them, even before Europeans showed up.


    I think the genus still survives and there are some genomes. Perhaps, it could be brought back?

    But I believe woollies are the best chance, from a charisma perspective.

    They recently figured out how to get Asian elephants to produce pluripotent stem cells, which doesn't really seem like much progress to me. Seems like they might be going in the direction of just modifying a few of the genes of Asian elephants for cold tolerance.

    Not really ideal from my perspective, but probably way easier, especially given the difficulties involved in sexual maturation. It must be way cheaper to feed stem cells than feed an elephant.
    , @songbird
    @AP

    What percentage of doctors would you say typically wear those rainbow lanyards? Every time I see doctors locally am suprised how many seem to be wearing them.

    Is it a choice? Or do they hand them out and say "Here are you new, gay credentials."

    It seems to me something really curious. If I were running a medical establishment, even if I were gay, I'd be like "These are a problem, since they could create factions and favoritism.". But for whatever reason that doesn't seem to happen. I wonder what explains it - the fact that it is so tied to education, which makes subversion easier. Or that they make a lot of money off gays, or gays appear in the system a lot with gay problems, leading to more gay pressure.

  54. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    If true, it disqualifies him from the presidency but with Trump, who knows what he will do.

    Trump has been pushing a pro-Ukraine guy in the senate primary in Michigan, against Justin Amash.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/donald-trump-endorses-mike-rogers-in-michigan-us-senate-race/

    Overall Trump is too much of a risk, despite voting for him in 2020 I’ll likely be voting for Biden. Trump is likely to be just as ineffective on domestic issues as he was last time, plus is very risky on foreign policy. But I won’t be completely surprised if he ends up disappointing Putin’s bootlickers.

    Mike Rogers:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3916018-the-republican-party-of-reagan-would-be-ukraines-strongest-supporters/



    True leadership is about explaining our country’s role in the world and the importance of what happens beyond our borders to our citizens — Reagan knew this and was able to communicate the importance of contesting the Soviet Union at every turn.

    Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R-Fla.) attempt last week to frame Ukraine’s heroic struggle for freedom from Russian tyranny, one that has left thousands of Ukrainian men, women and children dead, and displaced nearly a third of the nation, as a “territorial dispute” is not only wrong it is the kind of dangerous rhetoric that sends a clear signal to Moscow (one which they will exploit) that they need only wait and steel their resolve before American attention wanes.

    Our support to Ukraine is about America defending global peace and, thereby, ensuring our own freedom and economic prosperity. It is about ensuring the sovereignty of a democratic country in Europe today to avoid the cascade of conflict that would follow not just there but throughout the Indo-Pacific region as well. Reagan would recognize this truth, just as he saw the truth of the Soviet Union and its hollowness, and it is time that our Republican Party recognize it as well and explain it to the American people.
    Having served on and chaired the House Intelligence Committee during some of our nation’s most perilous times, I can share without hesitation the knowledge that our enemies closely scrutinize every action and every word of our leaders looking for an opening. Beyond Moscow, Beijing too has its eye fixed squarely on Ukraine to gauge America’s willingness and ability to rally the world and our military allies in the defense of freedom.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    With Biden we’re back to this:

    “Our My Lai, the Massacre at Highland Creek (1973),” by William Kurelek the Canadian Norman Rockwell and considered by many to be Canada’s greatest artist of the 20th century.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Mr. Hack

    Was the local hospital crematorium trying to save fuel during the 1973 oil crisis or that all was just figment of artistic imagination in a painting form?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  55. @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    With Biden we're back to this:

    https://thebridgehead.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Kurelek_8-707x1024.jpg

    "Our My Lai, the Massacre at Highland Creek (1973)," by William Kurelek the Canadian Norman Rockwell and considered by many to be Canada's greatest artist of the 20th century.

    Replies: @sudden death

    Was the local hospital crematorium trying to save fuel during the 1973 oil crisis or that all was just figment of artistic imagination in a painting form?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @sudden death

    I don't think that saving costs on fuel was paramount in the minds of the pro-choice hospital administrators, rather a secular disregard for the sanctity of life. For a few years, I know that aborted fetuses were being used to promote stem cell and new vaccine medical research. I understand that that's no longer necessary, so it looks like we're headed back to 1973?

    Of course the painting is hyperbolic, in real life aborted fetuses are thrown into incinerators, kind of like human corpses were disposed of in Auschwitz, so that squeamish people (like you?) need not be confronted with the reality of the situation. .

    Replies: @sudden death

  56. @songbird
    @LatW

    It is funny how killers eat all these endangered animals. Though I wonder if the fish ones would be healthier and have less chemicals in them.

    In folklore, there are tales of sea monsters fighting, and perhaps that could be related to these big battles fought by killers.

    Perhaps, the Roman Empire would have industrialized, if there had been more whales in the Med. The story of Porphyrious is interesting:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyrios_(whale)

    Some believe it was a monstrous-sized killer. It attacked ships in the Bosporus which sounds similar to those Gibraltar whales.


    The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe
     
    Someone else once mentioned that story on this site, and I was surprised by it. (They predicted they would cancel Poe over it - they had just put up his statue recently in Boston.). But I felt confident that nobody would care, as nobody reads it. Incidentally, I think I was confusing it with another of his longer stories involving a man who flies with the aid of balloons or a balloon, but it is still true enough, I think.

    BTW, Lovecraft seems to have a surprising cultural footprint in modern times despite more famously being a racialist. (Am sure Poe was too, but it was more assumed back then)

    Replies: @songbird, @LatW

    One recent estimate of the number of sperm whales in the Med was 1,842, which is actually way, way higher than I thought.

    [MORE]

    https://journal.iwc.int/index.php/jcrm/article/view/437

    Though, they seem about 1/10 as common in the Eastern Med compared to the Western.

    Perhaps, Porphyrios was a sperm whale. But it seems kind of hard to find reports of sperm whales attacking ships in modern times.

    As I recall, there was some speculation that what set the whale off that attacked the whaleship Essex was the smith hammering. (Which may have emulated the loudness of another male.)

    Could the clapperboard on a galley have set it off? But I think thought it also attacked other ships, without rowers.

    I suspect that the name was meant to reflect its large size and not its color.

  57. @sudden death
    @Mr. Hack

    Was the local hospital crematorium trying to save fuel during the 1973 oil crisis or that all was just figment of artistic imagination in a painting form?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I don’t think that saving costs on fuel was paramount in the minds of the pro-choice hospital administrators, rather a secular disregard for the sanctity of life. For a few years, I know that aborted fetuses were being used to promote stem cell and new vaccine medical research. I understand that that’s no longer necessary, so it looks like we’re headed back to 1973?

    Of course the painting is hyperbolic, in real life aborted fetuses are thrown into incinerators, kind of like human corpses were disposed of in Auschwitz, so that squeamish people (like you?) need not be confronted with the reality of the situation. .

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Mr. Hack

    Forgot previously to mention about the question not being very sarcastic btw, cause cases of criminal neglect regarding sanitation standards in the past could be more frequent - remembered reading somewhere about noncremated medical operational leftovers being discovered in trash heap sites or in old abandoned hospitals.

  58. @Mr. Hack
    @sudden death

    I don't think that saving costs on fuel was paramount in the minds of the pro-choice hospital administrators, rather a secular disregard for the sanctity of life. For a few years, I know that aborted fetuses were being used to promote stem cell and new vaccine medical research. I understand that that's no longer necessary, so it looks like we're headed back to 1973?

    Of course the painting is hyperbolic, in real life aborted fetuses are thrown into incinerators, kind of like human corpses were disposed of in Auschwitz, so that squeamish people (like you?) need not be confronted with the reality of the situation. .

    Replies: @sudden death

    Forgot previously to mention about the question not being very sarcastic btw, cause cases of criminal neglect regarding sanitation standards in the past could be more frequent – remembered reading somewhere about noncremated medical operational leftovers being discovered in trash heap sites or in old abandoned hospitals.

  59. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Trump is self-centered and power-hungry and will thus never drop out. Also, a lot of his supporters are crazy for him. He's literally their Orange Jesus. I suspect that they would pay a lot to have him go to the restroom in their houses because that's just how much they love him. Once he will die, his gravesite at his presidential library will certainly become a pilgrimage shrine and an extremely holy place for them, the US version of Jerusalem.


    Biden has really regressed in the last year. Polls show that any moderate Democrat has a much better chance at beating Trump.

     

    Regressed in the polls, mentally, or both?

    Unfortunately there is the possibility that Biden wants to win and hand off the presidency to Kamala. I view that as the worst case scenario and wouldn’t put it past him. He has major White guilt issues.
     
    I think that he would only voluntarily resign if he wins a second term if he will truly become non-functional, which is still a long way away.

    It’s indeed too risky if the goal is for the Democrats to beat Trump.

    Trump’s best chance is against Biden. Independents in swing states only support Trump when forced between the two. Trump’s gains should really be described as Biden’s losses. No one is suddenly getting excited about Trump. He also polls much worse with White women than he did in the last election.
     

    Do you think that Gavin Newsom would be a better candidate for the Democrats? What about Michelle Obama? I suspect that with her, Trump will try playing the Woke card like crazy and also make allusions to her relative stupidity* in comparison to her husband (she got into an elite US university due to both affirmative action and her elder brother being a sports star and she initially failed the bar exam and couldn't make partner even after she passed it on her second try).

    *Michelle's IQ might be in the 110 range. Which is in the top 2% for blacks, but in the top 25% or so for whites. So, 1 out of every 4 white people is smarter than Michelle is, which is a lot of whites! Meanwhile, half-white Barack is a true intellectual superstar for an African-American. I'm serious.

    I suspect that Gretchen Whitmer would be the best candidate for the Democrats in 2024. What do you think? I suspect that a lot of women will rally to her defense once Trump will inevitably try to fat-shame her. (She's not even that fat, but she still is curvy.)

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Trump is self-centered and power-hungry and will thus never drop out. Also, a lot of his supporters are crazy for him. He’s literally their Orange Jesus.

    Completely agree but a judge could ban him from Federal employment. It would in fact be expected if any other Federal employee had this many felonies over classified documents.

    Regressed in the polls, mentally, or both?

    I meant mentally but he is down in the polls with independents from a year ago.

    I think that he would only voluntarily resign if he wins a second term if he will truly become non-functional, which is still a long way away.

    I’m not saying I think it will happen. I am just saying the possibility exists that he is running a White guilt move. This is the same White guilter that claimed a Black man invented the light bulb in a speech.

    Do you think that Gavin Newsom would be a better candidate for the Democrats?

    The long running rumor is that there is too much dirt on him and the California Republicans didn’t dig hard enough when he ran for governor. I don’t like the guy but he would be better than Biden. However that rumor had been around a while and his answers regarding the presidency have been evasive. He is an ego maniac and the fact that he is hesitant to run means the rumor is most likely true.

    What about Michelle Obama?

    Terrible candidate. She is not analogous to Hillary Clinton. Might as well elect Martha Stewart. Michelle has zero political experience.

    I suspect that Gretchen Whitmer would be the best candidate for the Democrats in 2024. What do you think? I suspect that a lot of women will rally to her defense once Trump will inevitably try to fat-shame her.

    Not a bad candidate but I think the outsider Democrat business executive would be the better play.

  60. @AP
    @songbird

    Unlike blue whales, sperm whales have teeth and they can ram whatever is in the water, so they would probably kill an orca or three in such a fight. Blue whales would be hard to kill due to their sheer size but they seem to otherwise be more harmless.

    I read that the extinct Stellar sea cows were immune to orca attack (as adults) because they were so buoyant that the orcas couldn’t submerge them, and so huge that they were impervious to other attacks. So despite being slow and dumb they lives easy lives with no predators. Sadly, they were slow and helpless against human harpoons.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    Blue whales would be hard to kill due to their sheer size but they seem to otherwise be more harmless.

    A tail that breaches and comes back down (“the hand of God”) could probably be deadly, but it might be very hard to employ, as biosonar creates a more forward field of view. And the orcas swarm which impedes maneuverability.

    [MORE]

    Sperm whales ramming might not work too well either as killers are very fast. But perhaps this might be different if there was more than one to confuse the killers.

    Wish we knew more about that fight where they reportedly killed an orca. The marguerite formation reminds me of a picture of triceratops I once saw defending their nests, when I was nearly five. (Can date it pretty well because I was on a plane.). Of course, they were facing the other direction.

    I read that the extinct Stellar sea cows were immune to orca attack

    Probably the Eskimo really devastated them, even before Europeans showed up.

    I think the genus still survives and there are some genomes. Perhaps, it could be brought back?

    But I believe woollies are the best chance, from a charisma perspective.

    They recently figured out how to get Asian elephants to produce pluripotent stem cells, which doesn’t really seem like much progress to me. Seems like they might be going in the direction of just modifying a few of the genes of Asian elephants for cold tolerance.

    Not really ideal from my perspective, but probably way easier, especially given the difficulties involved in sexual maturation. It must be way cheaper to feed stem cells than feed an elephant.

  61. @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    It’s also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/
     

    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out. Part of winning elections is activating base voters and getting them to turn out.
    ___

    The DNC is stuck in a trap of their own making. Even if they somehow convince the Veggie-In-Chief to stand down, that leaves them with Not-The-VP Harris. Passing over her for a white male patriarch, such as Newsom, would schism the party. Michelle Obama has stated multiple times that she will not run. What other PoC female can they find? AOC perhaps?

    The smart play for the Democrats would have been running a competitive primary to replace Not-The-President Biden. However, the window on that closed months ago.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out.

    That’s not true.

    Haley does better against Biden in a proposed match up.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/09/haley-electability-trump-biden-polls-00130926

    Just about anyone takes more independents than Trump.

    Republican primary voters are once again not looking at the data and have goo-goo eyes for Trump. They want Trump to win more than they want to do what is best for the country. It is more of a second coming situation where they think he will come back for his reign of glory. Watch some of the interviews on youtube where they ask Trump voters about his pending felonies. They are completely clueless and think it is all a conspiracy. They don’t know how bad their orange TV reality star screwed up.

    The DNC is stuck in a trap of their own making. Even if they somehow convince the Veggie-In-Chief to stand down, that leaves them with Not-The-VP Harris. Passing over her for a white male patriarch, such as Newsom, would schism the party.

    Both the DNC and Harris know that Harris is in over her head.

    She is not a random AA hire that can hack it with some scripts.

    It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her. She may even want to leave. Harris avoids interviews and any sort of responsibility. She was a media White guilt pick and everyone knows it. The DNC would prefer Newsom over a slightly colored Woman that completely embarrasses herself in every interview. They obviously support Affirmative Action but not when it makes a daily joke of it. Obama had a White speech writer and would still flub a bit when off script but the cameras could hide it. Harris would be a media nightmare. There is no amount of spin that could hide it all. Just watch her French accent video. It would be cringe for four years.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.
     
    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950's or 1990's when you can manage US - or the world - with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.

    Biden has been a disaster. Any new keep-it-the-same Dem would be worse - maybe not demented, but that is decorative. The border situation, wars, barrista economy, un-payable debts, out-of-control identity groups, it is no longer manageable and needs to be addressed. That means winners and losers, a milky-toast non-entity will not do it.

    Trump may address it the way you don't like, but at least he would put some of it behind - it would be a huge relief. Biden-light will keep it simmering until it gets so bad that it is not fixable. Or do you want 500 million people country with increasingly fake money, losing wars all around the world, everyone hating each other internally and no material economy? That's the way Rome looked towards the end.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson

    , @A123
    @John Johnson



    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out.
     
    That’s not true. Haley does better against Biden in a proposed match up.

     

    You are lying. Cherry picking a single outlier poll is a form of deception.

    RealClearPolitics provides an aggregate "poll of polls" to limit outlier impact. Trump was routinely ahead of Haley. For example: (1)

    +3.9 / Trump
    +1.2 / Haley
     TIE / DeSantis
     
    You need to admit that you are a full on NeoConDemocrat. Pretending to be MAGA is an obvious fail on your part.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
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  62. @Mr. XYZ
    @Not Raul

    Do you think that a US President Al Gore in 2001-2005/2009 would have provided Darfur with that kind of help, either with NATO or without NATO?

    Honestly, it does seem like the Kosovo precedent would apply for Darfur as well given the extremely atrocious human rights violations that Darfuris have suffered at Sudanese hands. And it seems like the Woke left should be eager to help since it's a bunch of black people who need it.

    Replies: @Not Raul

    Do you think that a US President Al Gore in 2001-2005/2009 would have provided Darfur with that kind of help, either with NATO or without NATO?

    I’m not sure. I guess I’d call it a coin toss.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Not Raul

    Thanks.

    BTW, do you foresee Burma ever breaking up into numerous independent countries?

    Replies: @Not Raul

  63. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    It's also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4470956-biden-trump-harris-newsom-poll/

    So, it will likely need to be some new Democratic candidate other than either one of these two. And there would need to be reliable polling confirming that this new candidate is indeed polling stronger than Biden. I know that Whitmer does in Michigan, but what about in the other swing states?

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson

    It’s also worth noting, however, that both Harris and Newsom perform worse against Trump in polling than Biden does
    ..
    So, it will likely need to be some new Democratic candidate other than either one of these two.

    I don’t think either are good candidates. Voters probably remember Newsom from COVID. The rejection of Harris is honestly good news. It shows how many Democrats know that she is worthless even if she hits the gender and race boxes.

    And there would need to be reliable polling confirming that this new candidate is indeed polling stronger than Biden. I know that Whitmer does in Michigan, but what about in the other swing states?

    I honestly wouldn’t spend that much time on it.

    Biden would have to announce a plan to retire first.

    We could get a situation where Democrat primary electors make the decision on their own. Meaning it happens late enough to where they pledge their votes without regard to what their state wants. I also don’t know what kind of contingency plan exists.

    As I said before we won’t know the final candidates until around September. In fact it is possible for both Biden and Trump to drop. Biden quits and Trump gets barred from office or quits after getting a prison sentence.

  64. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out.

    That's not true.

    Haley does better against Biden in a proposed match up.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/09/haley-electability-trump-biden-polls-00130926

    Just about anyone takes more independents than Trump.

    Republican primary voters are once again not looking at the data and have goo-goo eyes for Trump. They want Trump to win more than they want to do what is best for the country. It is more of a second coming situation where they think he will come back for his reign of glory. Watch some of the interviews on youtube where they ask Trump voters about his pending felonies. They are completely clueless and think it is all a conspiracy. They don't know how bad their orange TV reality star screwed up.

    The DNC is stuck in a trap of their own making. Even if they somehow convince the Veggie-In-Chief to stand down, that leaves them with Not-The-VP Harris. Passing over her for a white male patriarch, such as Newsom, would schism the party.

    Both the DNC and Harris know that Harris is in over her head.

    She is not a random AA hire that can hack it with some scripts.

    It's entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her. She may even want to leave. Harris avoids interviews and any sort of responsibility. She was a media White guilt pick and everyone knows it. The DNC would prefer Newsom over a slightly colored Woman that completely embarrasses herself in every interview. They obviously support Affirmative Action but not when it makes a daily joke of it. Obama had a White speech writer and would still flub a bit when off script but the cameras could hide it. Harris would be a media nightmare. There is no amount of spin that could hide it all. Just watch her French accent video. It would be cringe for four years.

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123

    …It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.

    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950’s or 1990’s when you can manage US – or the world – with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.

    Biden has been a disaster. Any new keep-it-the-same Dem would be worse – maybe not demented, but that is decorative. The border situation, wars, barrista economy, un-payable debts, out-of-control identity groups, it is no longer manageable and needs to be addressed. That means winners and losers, a milky-toast non-entity will not do it.

    Trump may address it the way you don’t like, but at least he would put some of it behind – it would be a huge relief. Biden-light will keep it simmering until it gets so bad that it is not fixable. Or do you want 500 million people country with increasingly fake money, losing wars all around the world, everyone hating each other internally and no material economy? That’s the way Rome looked towards the end.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    with a random face with no deep political support.
     
    Few US presidents in recent decades had popular support and exercised power (or at least tried to) they are supposed to have according to the constitution: Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, Trump. Kennedy was assassinated. Nixon resigned under the threat of being impeached. Trump was hysterically attacked by the MSM and cheated out of electoral victory in 2020.

    That’s the way Rome looked towards the end.
     
    The power of all dominant empires eventually fades. However, the death throes of dying empires are becoming more and more destructive. We’d be lucky if we survive the death of the US empire. Otherwise, human history will be set back 10-15 thousand years: some backward people in remote areas will survive and eventually repopulate the Earth.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow

    , @A123
    @Beckow


    If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950’s or 1990’s when you can manage US – or the world – with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.
     
    I agree.

    The Democrats are a fragile collection of special interest groups tacked together on the basis of future promises. One such implicit commitment was running Kamala for President after the Veggie-In-Chief. Perhaps they could slip in another female PoC, but no name immediately springs to mind.

    Will DNC leadership actively snub women, minorities, or both?

    It seems unlikely they would be that foolish. Such an obvious & divisive error would impact down ballot. They now have the "least bad" option of continuing to prop up Mister Shambles. He will lose to Trump, but it keeps DNC candidates potentially in play for other races.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Wokechoke
    @Beckow

    At the end of the Empire or the end of the Republic? Or indeed at the beginning of the republic when the Samnites knocked them around something silly? If at the end of the Empire, the one in the West or the East?

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.
     
    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster.

    I don't have to anticipate anything. I'm not a Democrat and am merely stating what is possible.

    Polls show that a plain-vanilla Dem would in fact be a disaster for Trump. His best chance with independents is to face Biden. Independents want new candidates. The primary voters may love Trump but that was expected. Democrat primary voters also loved Hillary. In both cases there is a denial of how the electoral college works and how independent voters decide swing states.

    Trump may address it the way you don’t like, but at least he would put some of it behind – it would be a huge relief.

    I'm not convinced that Trump cares about the border.

    He botched it in his first run and he recently blew up the border deal.

    I am beginning to wonder if he is another Republican that talks about locking down the border but then behind closed doors is told that it needs to be open for the NYSE. Let's not forget that he owns hotels that employ illegals.

    He would be better than Biden on the border but that is a low bar. But I am not convinced he would be better than Haley or similar. He let Bannon scam his own followers over the border. Or are we to believe he didn't know about it? I really doubt that.

    What we really need is a populist who doesn't have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.

    Replies: @Beckow

  65. Trump would pick up a lot of neocon votes if he promised to nominate Haley as his secretary for war.

    The beauty of it is that position hasn’t existed since 1947.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    But wouldn't the media quickly point this out, this getting them to ask Trump the question of whether he will try to bring back this position?

  66. A123 says: • Website
    @John Johnson
    @A123

    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out.

    That's not true.

    Haley does better against Biden in a proposed match up.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/09/haley-electability-trump-biden-polls-00130926

    Just about anyone takes more independents than Trump.

    Republican primary voters are once again not looking at the data and have goo-goo eyes for Trump. They want Trump to win more than they want to do what is best for the country. It is more of a second coming situation where they think he will come back for his reign of glory. Watch some of the interviews on youtube where they ask Trump voters about his pending felonies. They are completely clueless and think it is all a conspiracy. They don't know how bad their orange TV reality star screwed up.

    The DNC is stuck in a trap of their own making. Even if they somehow convince the Veggie-In-Chief to stand down, that leaves them with Not-The-VP Harris. Passing over her for a white male patriarch, such as Newsom, would schism the party.

    Both the DNC and Harris know that Harris is in over her head.

    She is not a random AA hire that can hack it with some scripts.

    It's entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her. She may even want to leave. Harris avoids interviews and any sort of responsibility. She was a media White guilt pick and everyone knows it. The DNC would prefer Newsom over a slightly colored Woman that completely embarrasses herself in every interview. They obviously support Affirmative Action but not when it makes a daily joke of it. Obama had a White speech writer and would still flub a bit when off script but the cameras could hide it. Harris would be a media nightmare. There is no amount of spin that could hide it all. Just watch her French accent video. It would be cringe for four years.

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123

    Both Haley and DeSantis were also doing worse than Trump in general election polling before they dropped out.

    That’s not true. Haley does better against Biden in a proposed match up.

    You are lying. Cherry picking a single outlier poll is a form of deception.

    RealClearPolitics provides an aggregate “poll of polls” to limit outlier impact. Trump was routinely ahead of Haley. For example: (1)

    +3.9 / Trump
    +1.2 / Haley
     TIE / DeSantis

    You need to admit that you are a full on NeoConDemocrat. Pretending to be MAGA is an obvious fail on your part.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
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  67. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.
     
    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950's or 1990's when you can manage US - or the world - with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.

    Biden has been a disaster. Any new keep-it-the-same Dem would be worse - maybe not demented, but that is decorative. The border situation, wars, barrista economy, un-payable debts, out-of-control identity groups, it is no longer manageable and needs to be addressed. That means winners and losers, a milky-toast non-entity will not do it.

    Trump may address it the way you don't like, but at least he would put some of it behind - it would be a huge relief. Biden-light will keep it simmering until it gets so bad that it is not fixable. Or do you want 500 million people country with increasingly fake money, losing wars all around the world, everyone hating each other internally and no material economy? That's the way Rome looked towards the end.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson

    with a random face with no deep political support.

    Few US presidents in recent decades had popular support and exercised power (or at least tried to) they are supposed to have according to the constitution: Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, Trump. Kennedy was assassinated. Nixon resigned under the threat of being impeached. Trump was hysterically attacked by the MSM and cheated out of electoral victory in 2020.

    That’s the way Rome looked towards the end.

    The power of all dominant empires eventually fades. However, the death throes of dying empires are becoming more and more destructive. We’d be lucky if we survive the death of the US empire. Otherwise, human history will be set back 10-15 thousand years: some backward people in remote areas will survive and eventually repopulate the Earth.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JHCfe86A8U

    , @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...We’d be lucky if we survive the death of the US empire. Otherwise, human history will be set back 10-15 thousand years
     
    I agree, this is getting serious. I suspect if the worst happens it would not be comprehensive and large parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia would survive. But the earth would be hell, these liberal fanatics would really do a climate change on mankind.

    Most leaders are redundant, they serve no purpose, pursue no policies of their own, they are there just because someone has to be upfront. But in times like these a real leader who can change things and also stop the worst from happening is extremely important. In the West the closest to that is Trump. In Russia they have a rational although not very decisive leader in Putin. The odds of a nuke exchange with the two are less - they are both normal. Biden is not.

    With a newbie weakling in US it would be a toss-up, but likely things would escalate and get worse. If Putin is gone it could be a two-way catastrophe. This is serious...maybe moving to Bariloche is not such a bad idea, the bad-toupée-weirdo could make it livable. But probably not, he is a fake.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mikel

  68. A123 says: • Website
    @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.
     
    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950's or 1990's when you can manage US - or the world - with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.

    Biden has been a disaster. Any new keep-it-the-same Dem would be worse - maybe not demented, but that is decorative. The border situation, wars, barrista economy, un-payable debts, out-of-control identity groups, it is no longer manageable and needs to be addressed. That means winners and losers, a milky-toast non-entity will not do it.

    Trump may address it the way you don't like, but at least he would put some of it behind - it would be a huge relief. Biden-light will keep it simmering until it gets so bad that it is not fixable. Or do you want 500 million people country with increasingly fake money, losing wars all around the world, everyone hating each other internally and no material economy? That's the way Rome looked towards the end.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson

    If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950’s or 1990’s when you can manage US – or the world – with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.

    I agree.

    The Democrats are a fragile collection of special interest groups tacked together on the basis of future promises. One such implicit commitment was running Kamala for President after the Veggie-In-Chief. Perhaps they could slip in another female PoC, but no name immediately springs to mind.

    Will DNC leadership actively snub women, minorities, or both?

    It seems unlikely they would be that foolish. Such an obvious & divisive error would impact down ballot. They now have the “least bad” option of continuing to prop up Mister Shambles. He will lose to Trump, but it keeps DNC candidates potentially in play for other races.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    but no name immediately springs to mind.
     
    Val Demings? Or is she too authentically black for normie white Americans?

    Replies: @A123

  69. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Revelation is not so difficult to understand - the main problem is with "the Beast" etc.,but is obviously some incarnation/avatar of Satan - but as Judeochristan document, it is very uncomfortable for Christians since it is not in tune with the rest of mainly Paulian New Testament. Moreover, it is very graphic and suggest catastrophes falling upon the entire planet of Earth, unlike any book of the Bible (except the Flood in Genesis).

    It clearly says that only limited number of Jews and only Jews will be saved (144000) and there are many false Jews around ("those who call themselves Jews but are not"). This is very fatalistic. It is not a template for universal, catholic faith full of compassion etc.

    Therefore highly allegoric interpretations were developed to cloud the fact that the judgmental God of the Old Testament will return and - judge. And even conversion to Judaism will not save you;)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard

    It clearly says . . .

    Clearly you want to open this can of worms. Better luck winning a debate on Palestine and Israel at the United Nations.

    These guys have written a couple of thousand books so far. And they are still going at it like the Energizer Bunny. Do they have the Energizer Bunny on Polish television?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Clearly
     
    7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    " hundred and forty and four thousand"
    Clearly?
    Clearly.

    There are more unclear texts than Revelation. More relevant is asking why we want to claim that Revelation is so awfully unclear..?


    Do they have the Energizer Bunny on Polish television?
     
    No, but we have famous "his name is 44(czterdzieści i cztery)" in the quasi-apocalyptic text in Adam Mickiewicz drama "Dziady":

    Nad ludy i nad króle podniesiony;
    Na trzech stoi koronach, a sam bez korony;
    A życie jego – trud trudów,
    A tytuł jego – lud ludów;
    Z matki obcej, krew jego dawne bohatery,
    A imię jego czterdzieści i cztery.

    "Above peoples and kings elevated
    Upon three crowns yet without a crown stands He
    His life - toil of toils
    His title - people of peoples
    Of foreign mother, his blood of ancient heroes
    His name - 44."

    As for Preterism, let us remember Olivet Discourse...

    Matthew 24

    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

    24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    25 Behold, I have told you before.

    26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  70. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    with a random face with no deep political support.
     
    Few US presidents in recent decades had popular support and exercised power (or at least tried to) they are supposed to have according to the constitution: Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, Trump. Kennedy was assassinated. Nixon resigned under the threat of being impeached. Trump was hysterically attacked by the MSM and cheated out of electoral victory in 2020.

    That’s the way Rome looked towards the end.
     
    The power of all dominant empires eventually fades. However, the death throes of dying empires are becoming more and more destructive. We’d be lucky if we survive the death of the US empire. Otherwise, human history will be set back 10-15 thousand years: some backward people in remote areas will survive and eventually repopulate the Earth.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow

  71. • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    52? Huh, I thought 42 was the answer every discerning whale would know.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  72. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    with a random face with no deep political support.
     
    Few US presidents in recent decades had popular support and exercised power (or at least tried to) they are supposed to have according to the constitution: Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, Trump. Kennedy was assassinated. Nixon resigned under the threat of being impeached. Trump was hysterically attacked by the MSM and cheated out of electoral victory in 2020.

    That’s the way Rome looked towards the end.
     
    The power of all dominant empires eventually fades. However, the death throes of dying empires are becoming more and more destructive. We’d be lucky if we survive the death of the US empire. Otherwise, human history will be set back 10-15 thousand years: some backward people in remote areas will survive and eventually repopulate the Earth.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow

    …We’d be lucky if we survive the death of the US empire. Otherwise, human history will be set back 10-15 thousand years

    I agree, this is getting serious. I suspect if the worst happens it would not be comprehensive and large parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia would survive. But the earth would be hell, these liberal fanatics would really do a climate change on mankind.

    Most leaders are redundant, they serve no purpose, pursue no policies of their own, they are there just because someone has to be upfront. But in times like these a real leader who can change things and also stop the worst from happening is extremely important. In the West the closest to that is Trump. In Russia they have a rational although not very decisive leader in Putin. The odds of a nuke exchange with the two are less – they are both normal. Biden is not.

    With a newbie weakling in US it would be a toss-up, but likely things would escalate and get worse. If Putin is gone it could be a two-way catastrophe. This is serious…maybe moving to Bariloche is not such a bad idea, the bad-toupée-weirdo could make it livable. But probably not, he is a fake.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Most leaders are redundant, they serve no purpose, pursue no policies of their own, they are there just because someone has to be upfront. But in times like these a real leader who can change things and also stop the worst from happening is extremely important. In the West the closest to that is Trump. In Russia they have a rational although not very decisive leader in Putin. The odds of a nuke exchange with the two are less – they are both normal. Biden is not.
     
    Unfortunately, the political landscape in the US is so bad that even Trump looks good. He is not particularly bright, but at least he is sane and does not suffer from Alzheimer’s.

    On the anti-imperial side Putin is not the only sane leader with significant resources. Xi is another one. Some remote rural areas in both Russia and China will only suffer from nuclear fallout and dramatic climate change triggered by the global nuclear war. Some humans will likely survive in those areas, in addition to parts of Africa, South America (e.g., Amazonia), Papua, and similar parts of the Earth. If the RF/China humans dominate, the history will be set back less than 1,000 years. Otherwise the setback will be greater.
    , @Mikel
    @Beckow


    I agree, this is getting serious. I suspect if the worst happens it would not be comprehensive and large parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia would survive.
     
    Yes, it's getting serious. Which makes me wonder why you dismissed Macron's threats in the other thread. I think he most likely means what he said, why wouldn't he? These people, especially in Europe, are still full of hubris. Here in the US there has been some contrition for all the foreign misadventures of the past decades but I don't see the Macron types having any regrets about Libya, Afghanistan (where they were planning to stay indefinitely when Biden pulled the plug) and all the rest. Now it's Russia's turn to receive a lesson.

    The other problem with politicians is that they become hostages of their own words. Perhaps he was just sour about that missile in Kharkiv that allegedly killed dozens of French volunteers (?). But once they run their mouths, they'd rather start a war than lose face and take back what they said. It's happened all throughout history.

    Regardless of Macron's utterances, the situation is objectively serious. Some months ago if you read between the lines in all the major newspapers, it looked like people were getting ready for negotiations but somebody, once again, seems to have called them off. The biggest problem is the huge conventional military imbalance between NATO and Russia. We've been watching Russia struggle against Ukraine for 2 years and there's little question that if NATO decides that they cannot let Ukraine lose and put in motion their troops, air power and navy in full force it's going to be a rout. Russia has nothing but their nukes to contain such a threat.

    Of course, if Macron, the Balts, et al get their way there's always a possibility that Putin may decide that he doesn't care all that much about Crimea and Donbas and lose face rather than start Armageddon. That must be their calculation. But where is the guarantee that he won't decide that he has no future after such a defeat and will not prefer to take us all with him rather than face Saddam's fate? Would Saddam have ended in the gallows if he had had thousands of nuclear weapons?

    We're in totally uncharted territory. The Cuban crisis lasted a few weeks, one of the parties de-escalated and there were ongoing negotiations. We've been at this for 2 years now and there is no end in sight. Nobody's blinking and there are plenty of people who actually want to escalate.

    Taking a bit of a distance to look at the events the insanity is almost comical. If Putin really was planning to send his divisions to the English Channel or if he was trying to impose the Marxist-Putinist system all around the world, we might perhaps discuss if it was worth it risking nuclear annihilation to prevent those goals. But what are we discussing the risk of nuclear war for? To make sure that we can expand NATO eastwards a little more and that the administrative borders of the Soviet Union drawn by communist dictators remain in place, even if the people actually living inside those borders don't like them? What a comically stupid way of ending centuries of civilization.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

  73. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...We’d be lucky if we survive the death of the US empire. Otherwise, human history will be set back 10-15 thousand years
     
    I agree, this is getting serious. I suspect if the worst happens it would not be comprehensive and large parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia would survive. But the earth would be hell, these liberal fanatics would really do a climate change on mankind.

    Most leaders are redundant, they serve no purpose, pursue no policies of their own, they are there just because someone has to be upfront. But in times like these a real leader who can change things and also stop the worst from happening is extremely important. In the West the closest to that is Trump. In Russia they have a rational although not very decisive leader in Putin. The odds of a nuke exchange with the two are less - they are both normal. Biden is not.

    With a newbie weakling in US it would be a toss-up, but likely things would escalate and get worse. If Putin is gone it could be a two-way catastrophe. This is serious...maybe moving to Bariloche is not such a bad idea, the bad-toupée-weirdo could make it livable. But probably not, he is a fake.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mikel

    Most leaders are redundant, they serve no purpose, pursue no policies of their own, they are there just because someone has to be upfront. But in times like these a real leader who can change things and also stop the worst from happening is extremely important. In the West the closest to that is Trump. In Russia they have a rational although not very decisive leader in Putin. The odds of a nuke exchange with the two are less – they are both normal. Biden is not.

    Unfortunately, the political landscape in the US is so bad that even Trump looks good. He is not particularly bright, but at least he is sane and does not suffer from Alzheimer’s.

    On the anti-imperial side Putin is not the only sane leader with significant resources. Xi is another one. Some remote rural areas in both Russia and China will only suffer from nuclear fallout and dramatic climate change triggered by the global nuclear war. Some humans will likely survive in those areas, in addition to parts of Africa, South America (e.g., Amazonia), Papua, and similar parts of the Earth. If the RF/China humans dominate, the history will be set back less than 1,000 years. Otherwise the setback will be greater.

  74. @Not Raul
    @Mr. XYZ


    Do you think that a US President Al Gore in 2001-2005/2009 would have provided Darfur with that kind of help, either with NATO or without NATO?
     
    I’m not sure. I guess I’d call it a coin toss.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Thanks.

    BTW, do you foresee Burma ever breaking up into numerous independent countries?

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @Mr. XYZ


    BTW, do you foresee Burma ever breaking up into numerous independent countries?
     
    It might. Just guessing, I’d give it a 30% chance of happening within the next 30 years.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  75. @A123
    @Beckow


    If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950’s or 1990’s when you can manage US – or the world – with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.
     
    I agree.

    The Democrats are a fragile collection of special interest groups tacked together on the basis of future promises. One such implicit commitment was running Kamala for President after the Veggie-In-Chief. Perhaps they could slip in another female PoC, but no name immediately springs to mind.

    Will DNC leadership actively snub women, minorities, or both?

    It seems unlikely they would be that foolish. Such an obvious & divisive error would impact down ballot. They now have the "least bad" option of continuing to prop up Mister Shambles. He will lose to Trump, but it keeps DNC candidates potentially in play for other races.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    but no name immediately springs to mind.

    Val Demings? Or is she too authentically black for normie white Americans?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    Val Demings? Or is she too authentically black for normie white Americans?
     
    In the South she is known for losing badly to Marco Rubio. Would she have name recognition anywhere else? It is not impossible, but she is likely too obscure for a late substitute. If the DNC wants to switch, they need to pick someone with national name recognition.

    Another issue.... Isn't she the police chief who put lots of blacks in prison? I seem to recall BLM outrage about her. She might be demotivating to the extremist DNC base. I think this was one of the reasons why she was bypassed as a potential VP pick.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  76. @songbird
    Trump would pick up a lot of neocon votes if he promised to nominate Haley as his secretary for war.

    The beauty of it is that position hasn't existed since 1947.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    But wouldn’t the media quickly point this out, this getting them to ask Trump the question of whether he will try to bring back this position?

    • Disagree: songbird
  77. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Another Polish Perspective


    It clearly says . . .
     
    Clearly you want to open this can of worms. Better luck winning a debate on Palestine and Israel at the United Nations.

    These guys have written a couple of thousand books so far. And they are still going at it like the Energizer Bunny. Do they have the Energizer Bunny on Polish television?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Clearly

    7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    ” hundred and forty and four thousand”
    Clearly?
    Clearly.

    There are more unclear texts than Revelation. More relevant is asking why we want to claim that Revelation is so awfully unclear..?

    Do they have the Energizer Bunny on Polish television?

    No, but we have famous “his name is 44(czterdzieści i cztery)” in the quasi-apocalyptic text in Adam Mickiewicz drama “Dziady”:

    Nad ludy i nad króle podniesiony;
    Na trzech stoi koronach, a sam bez korony;
    A życie jego – trud trudów,
    A tytuł jego – lud ludów;
    Z matki obcej, krew jego dawne bohatery,
    A imię jego czterdzieści i cztery.

    “Above peoples and kings elevated
    Upon three crowns yet without a crown stands He
    His life – toil of toils
    His title – people of peoples
    Of foreign mother, his blood of ancient heroes
    His name – 44.”

    As for Preterism, let us remember Olivet Discourse…

    Matthew 24

    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

    24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    25 Behold, I have told you before.

    26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Another Polish Perspective

    I am interested in this 44 character.

    This is the first E. B. but his tag line endlessly repeated is not in it.


    He keeps going and going and going

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiFQsxGUQOI
  78. A123 says: • Website
    @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    but no name immediately springs to mind.
     
    Val Demings? Or is she too authentically black for normie white Americans?

    Replies: @A123

    Val Demings? Or is she too authentically black for normie white Americans?

    In the South she is known for losing badly to Marco Rubio. Would she have name recognition anywhere else? It is not impossible, but she is likely too obscure for a late substitute. If the DNC wants to switch, they need to pick someone with national name recognition.

    Another issue…. Isn’t she the police chief who put lots of blacks in prison? I seem to recall BLM outrage about her. She might be demotivating to the extremist DNC base. I think this was one of the reasons why she was bypassed as a potential VP pick.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123

    What about the current Illinois Governor? Or even the current New York Governor?

    Replies: @A123

  79. @S1
    @LatW


    Btw, there is another somewhat strange piece of literature somewhat related to this, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe.
     
    I'd not heard of that one before. Thanks. Poe was kind of cool in his way, though seems to have lived a hard life.

    I've always liked The Tell-Tale Heart and The Fall of the House of Usher. As a kid I happened to see The Pit and the Pendelum starring Vincent Price, which I found to be particularly disturbing.

    No doubt Poe would have seen that as a resounding success on his part! :-D



    https://youtu.be/VbcaRyX9TpY?si=-bdX3VnBDTVJNawz

    Replies: @LatW

    I’d not heard of that one before.

    This one is not the most typical of his work, in terms of its form (he mostly has short stories and poems, but this one is his only finished novel and it is a kind of a travelogue with a lot of geographic detail). But there are a few flashes of his typical style in it as well (some horror, haunting scenes, the apparition in the end).

    [MORE]

    A lot of his writing is truly crazy so it’s best to take it in in small doses (otherwise it’s too heavy for the soul), so that’s why these short stories are good.

    Poe was kind of cool in his way, though seems to have lived a hard life.

    Tbh, these types are not always very functional, they are too sensitive (and can be difficult in personal life, thus they often sabotage their own happiness, I’m not saying it was him, in his case, he may have just been too artsy or introspective). But he lost his family early on, so that’s really heavy.

    The Tell-Tale Heart is of course among the more famous ones, a classic, it’s in first person, and it’s interesting how much of his own subjective feelings he put in it (he may have had anxiety), but it sounds almost a bit clinical.

    The Raven is probably the most famous. In that poem, there is a theme, a repetitive sound (“the tapping”) similar to how there is the beating of the heart in the other one. The images he conjures up are scary, but his language so beautiful that it pulls one back to the story. I can only tolerate this type of horror in writing, not on video. Although I love these types of settings (castles, a silver chalice, etc). In The Raven there is an open window, with curtains flowing in the wind which is kind of disturbing, etc. Images that inspire yearning, etc. It’s all there.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    Does it strike you that Edgar Allan Poe could have had some mental/psychological imbalances that contributed to his works being so scary? (I read some of his works back in middle school, almost 20 years ago, if I remember correctly.) Though I suppose that it makes sense for people with mental/psychological problems to become great writers. There's even a term for this for poets specifically:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Plath_effect

    BTW, I have made an additional comment/response to you at the very end of the previous open thread (Open Thread 243). I hope that you would be willing to respond to it (obviously over there, not over here).

    Replies: @LatW

    , @S1
    @LatW


    A lot of his writing is truly crazy so it’s best to take it in in small doses (otherwise it’s too heavy for the soul), so that’s why these short stories are good.
     
    Today if people are in the mood for a fright, they watch a horror movie. In those days I suppose they would whip out their copy of Poe and read that.

    Tbh, these types are not always very functional, they are too sensitive (and can be difficult in personal life, thus they often sabotage their own happiness, I’m not saying it was him, in his case, he may have just been too artsy or introspective).
     
    That's a valid point.. His actual personality might of shined through in his writings, so he may well have been something of a depressive in real life.

    The images he conjures up are scary, but his language so beautiful that it pulls one back to the story. I can only tolerate this type of horror in writing, not on video.
     
    Dickens was also quite descriptive in his writing, and while it's true a picture can be worth a thousand words, videos and films often don't do books justice.

    I ran into this Poe Museum article. It might be a bit of a stretch what they suggest in regards to his untimely demise, but maybe not. He seems to have been something of a mysterious figure both while alive and in death.

    https://poemuseum.org/poe-museums-object-of-the-month-may-hold-clue-to-poes-mysterious-death/
  80. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Clearly
     
    7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    " hundred and forty and four thousand"
    Clearly?
    Clearly.

    There are more unclear texts than Revelation. More relevant is asking why we want to claim that Revelation is so awfully unclear..?


    Do they have the Energizer Bunny on Polish television?
     
    No, but we have famous "his name is 44(czterdzieści i cztery)" in the quasi-apocalyptic text in Adam Mickiewicz drama "Dziady":

    Nad ludy i nad króle podniesiony;
    Na trzech stoi koronach, a sam bez korony;
    A życie jego – trud trudów,
    A tytuł jego – lud ludów;
    Z matki obcej, krew jego dawne bohatery,
    A imię jego czterdzieści i cztery.

    "Above peoples and kings elevated
    Upon three crowns yet without a crown stands He
    His life - toil of toils
    His title - people of peoples
    Of foreign mother, his blood of ancient heroes
    His name - 44."

    As for Preterism, let us remember Olivet Discourse...

    Matthew 24

    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

    24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    25 Behold, I have told you before.

    26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am interested in this 44 character.

    This is the first E. B. but his tag line endlessly repeated is not in it.

    He keeps going and going and going

  81. @songbird
    @LatW

    It is funny how killers eat all these endangered animals. Though I wonder if the fish ones would be healthier and have less chemicals in them.

    In folklore, there are tales of sea monsters fighting, and perhaps that could be related to these big battles fought by killers.

    Perhaps, the Roman Empire would have industrialized, if there had been more whales in the Med. The story of Porphyrious is interesting:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyrios_(whale)

    Some believe it was a monstrous-sized killer. It attacked ships in the Bosporus which sounds similar to those Gibraltar whales.


    The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe
     
    Someone else once mentioned that story on this site, and I was surprised by it. (They predicted they would cancel Poe over it - they had just put up his statue recently in Boston.). But I felt confident that nobody would care, as nobody reads it. Incidentally, I think I was confusing it with another of his longer stories involving a man who flies with the aid of balloons or a balloon, but it is still true enough, I think.

    BTW, Lovecraft seems to have a surprising cultural footprint in modern times despite more famously being a racialist. (Am sure Poe was too, but it was more assumed back then)

    Replies: @songbird, @LatW

    It is funny how killers eat all these endangered animals.

    Yes, it’s pretty crazy, it’s like a Porsche totaling a Lamborghini. From today’s perspective, you feel it as a loss, but it must have been intended so in the Nature, although there are changes in their habitat, so who knows what is natural and right and what isn’t. Apparently, there used to be pre-historic orcas as well, or some kind of an orca ancestor. And they may have fought with ancient whales. Orcas are a sacred animal.

    [MORE]

    Though I wonder if the fish ones would be healthier and have less chemicals in them.

    Contamination is a big problem for them (as is industrial noise), they are themselves contaminated apparently, and some of them are running out of salmon, which is totally lame. 🙁

    They predicted they would cancel Poe over it – they had just put up his statue recently in Boston

    Well, did they want to cancel him? I wonder why there wouldn’t be a statue to him in Boston long ago. That particular book does have some “racism” in it, don’t know how deliberate or just widely held views of that time. Poe cannot be cancelled because he lives in his own dimension. He is a cult writer among European goths, btw. I had a volume of his books that had been published in the 1920s, but I sold it to an acquaintance. I almost want it back now.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    I wonder why there wouldn’t be a statue to him in Boston long ago.
     
    Well, I would say he's been a popular figure here for a while, but there has been an evolution in the culture.

    Back then, it would have been seen as improper for Boston to claim him as a native son. He was born there, but his connection to Boston is mostly tenuous. He did not write his famous stories there and his family didn't come from there. (His mother English and his father was from Baltimore). Nor did he grow up there. He was seen as Baltimore's and not Boston's. (And Boston did have its own famous writers.)

    Since then, people are claiming more and more tenuous connections, hence the statue. Which however is much cooler than many others.

    BTW, it is interesting how his father was an actor and he married his 13 y.o. cousin. I wonder if he was descended from a Cromwellian soldier in Ireland.

    Replies: @LatW

  82. Did you know that IMF experts are Putin’s agents? IMF predicted 0.9% economic growth in Europe that introduced sanctions against Russia and 2.6% growth in Russia targeted by those sanctions.

  83. The empire is working miracles. Joint Navy drills of Russia, China, and Iran are conducted again. Who could have imagined that just 20 years ago?

  84. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    If true, it disqualifies him from the presidency but with Trump, who knows what he will do.

    Trump has been pushing a pro-Ukraine guy in the senate primary in Michigan, against Justin Amash.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/donald-trump-endorses-mike-rogers-in-michigan-us-senate-race/

    Overall Trump is too much of a risk, despite voting for him in 2020 I’ll likely be voting for Biden. Trump is likely to be just as ineffective on domestic issues as he was last time, plus is very risky on foreign policy. But I won’t be completely surprised if he ends up disappointing Putin’s bootlickers.

    Mike Rogers:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3916018-the-republican-party-of-reagan-would-be-ukraines-strongest-supporters/



    True leadership is about explaining our country’s role in the world and the importance of what happens beyond our borders to our citizens — Reagan knew this and was able to communicate the importance of contesting the Soviet Union at every turn.

    Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R-Fla.) attempt last week to frame Ukraine’s heroic struggle for freedom from Russian tyranny, one that has left thousands of Ukrainian men, women and children dead, and displaced nearly a third of the nation, as a “territorial dispute” is not only wrong it is the kind of dangerous rhetoric that sends a clear signal to Moscow (one which they will exploit) that they need only wait and steel their resolve before American attention wanes.

    Our support to Ukraine is about America defending global peace and, thereby, ensuring our own freedom and economic prosperity. It is about ensuring the sovereignty of a democratic country in Europe today to avoid the cascade of conflict that would follow not just there but throughout the Indo-Pacific region as well. Reagan would recognize this truth, just as he saw the truth of the Soviet Union and its hollowness, and it is time that our Republican Party recognize it as well and explain it to the American people.
    Having served on and chaired the House Intelligence Committee during some of our nation’s most perilous times, I can share without hesitation the knowledge that our enemies closely scrutinize every action and every word of our leaders looking for an opening. Beyond Moscow, Beijing too has its eye fixed squarely on Ukraine to gauge America’s willingness and ability to rally the world and our military allies in the defense of freedom.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    Justin Amash was a big critic of Trump and left the GOP several years ago:

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/5/20683110/justin-amash-leaves-gop-donald-trump-michigan

    He also voted to impeach Trump in 2019:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/31/politics/amash-vote-yes-impeachment-resolution/index.html

    I suspect that these are much bigger factors in Trump’s decision to support Mike Rogers for Michigan’s US Senate seat than any views that Amash has on Ukraine (which I doubt that Trump cares too much about).

    BTW, off-topic, but I wonder why Trump supported Mehmet Oz over David McCormick for Pennsylvania’s US Senate seat in 2022? Was it because Trump felt more connected to Oz due to them both being celebrities? Was it an attempt to portray the GOP as a big-tent party due to Oz being Muslim (indeed, the first Muslim candidate ever nominated for the US Senate by either major US political party)?

  85. @LatW
    @S1


    I’d not heard of that one before.
     
    This one is not the most typical of his work, in terms of its form (he mostly has short stories and poems, but this one is his only finished novel and it is a kind of a travelogue with a lot of geographic detail). But there are a few flashes of his typical style in it as well (some horror, haunting scenes, the apparition in the end).

    A lot of his writing is truly crazy so it's best to take it in in small doses (otherwise it's too heavy for the soul), so that's why these short stories are good.


    Poe was kind of cool in his way, though seems to have lived a hard life.
     
    Tbh, these types are not always very functional, they are too sensitive (and can be difficult in personal life, thus they often sabotage their own happiness, I'm not saying it was him, in his case, he may have just been too artsy or introspective). But he lost his family early on, so that's really heavy.

    The Tell-Tale Heart is of course among the more famous ones, a classic, it's in first person, and it's interesting how much of his own subjective feelings he put in it (he may have had anxiety), but it sounds almost a bit clinical.

    The Raven is probably the most famous. In that poem, there is a theme, a repetitive sound ("the tapping") similar to how there is the beating of the heart in the other one. The images he conjures up are scary, but his language so beautiful that it pulls one back to the story. I can only tolerate this type of horror in writing, not on video. Although I love these types of settings (castles, a silver chalice, etc). In The Raven there is an open window, with curtains flowing in the wind which is kind of disturbing, etc. Images that inspire yearning, etc. It's all there.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @S1

    Does it strike you that Edgar Allan Poe could have had some mental/psychological imbalances that contributed to his works being so scary? (I read some of his works back in middle school, almost 20 years ago, if I remember correctly.) Though I suppose that it makes sense for people with mental/psychological problems to become great writers. There’s even a term for this for poets specifically:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Plath_effect

    BTW, I have made an additional comment/response to you at the very end of the previous open thread (Open Thread 243). I hope that you would be willing to respond to it (obviously over there, not over here).

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Does it strike you that Edgar Allan Poe could have had some mental/psychological imbalances that contributed to his works being so scary?
     
    He was just different.

    But he didn't have an easy start. His mother died at a very young age, and he saw her dying, so he was separated from her from a very young age (just like the orca whale Tilikum who was ripped away from his mother by force and later was maligned when he reacted).

    We don't know what is happening in their amygdala and how that affects them. It could be eating away at their neurons. But it's not like they can help themselves. And there are good sides, there is beauty.

    His writing can be very orderly though, even if it does contain a lot of yearning and some borderline experiences, there is also a rationality and control in his way of writing. It is contained through his logic and introspection. And yet he has those romantic visual journeys and extreme "mental" descriptions.

    He has to sacrifice himself to create this for us (for the world, for eternity). Death is life's biggest secret, but we will all reach this knowledge one day. It is written in our existence.

    (P.s. Будь осторожнее, не пости фотки, ты нарвёшься. Лучше позаботься о себе.)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

  86. @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    Val Demings? Or is she too authentically black for normie white Americans?
     
    In the South she is known for losing badly to Marco Rubio. Would she have name recognition anywhere else? It is not impossible, but she is likely too obscure for a late substitute. If the DNC wants to switch, they need to pick someone with national name recognition.

    Another issue.... Isn't she the police chief who put lots of blacks in prison? I seem to recall BLM outrage about her. She might be demotivating to the extremist DNC base. I think this was one of the reasons why she was bypassed as a potential VP pick.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    What about the current Illinois Governor? Or even the current New York Governor?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    What about the current Illinois Governor?
     
    Who is that?

    I believe he is the wrong gender, wrong pigment, and has near zero national name recognition.

    Or even the current New York Governor?
     
    Hochul is the wrong pigment. And, she is nationally known for mishandling the Sanctuary State issue. There is no reason to believe that she would outperform the Veggie-In-Chief.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  87. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.
     
    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950's or 1990's when you can manage US - or the world - with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.

    Biden has been a disaster. Any new keep-it-the-same Dem would be worse - maybe not demented, but that is decorative. The border situation, wars, barrista economy, un-payable debts, out-of-control identity groups, it is no longer manageable and needs to be addressed. That means winners and losers, a milky-toast non-entity will not do it.

    Trump may address it the way you don't like, but at least he would put some of it behind - it would be a huge relief. Biden-light will keep it simmering until it gets so bad that it is not fixable. Or do you want 500 million people country with increasingly fake money, losing wars all around the world, everyone hating each other internally and no material economy? That's the way Rome looked towards the end.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson

    At the end of the Empire or the end of the Republic? Or indeed at the beginning of the republic when the Samnites knocked them around something silly? If at the end of the Empire, the one in the West or the East?

  88. @Mr. XYZ
    @Not Raul

    Thanks.

    BTW, do you foresee Burma ever breaking up into numerous independent countries?

    Replies: @Not Raul

    BTW, do you foresee Burma ever breaking up into numerous independent countries?

    It might. Just guessing, I’d give it a 30% chance of happening within the next 30 years.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Not Raul

    Thanks!

    It’s interesting: Some multiethnic countries, such as Iraq and Nigeria, survived attempts to break them up while others, such as Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Pakistan (in 1971) did not.

    Any chance that you could see a similar outcome for Afghanistan sometime down the future?

    Replies: @Derer

  89. @Not Raul
    @Mr. XYZ


    BTW, do you foresee Burma ever breaking up into numerous independent countries?
     
    It might. Just guessing, I’d give it a 30% chance of happening within the next 30 years.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Thanks!

    It’s interesting: Some multiethnic countries, such as Iraq and Nigeria, survived attempts to break them up while others, such as Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Pakistan (in 1971) did not.

    Any chance that you could see a similar outcome for Afghanistan sometime down the future?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    Strong candidate for the inclusion in your list is the EU, how long the European taxpayers will support the 50 thou Brussels partying bureaucrats.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  90. @songbird
    IMO, probably a hybrid.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/8E3AepZEwFM?si=zlMg5_LEQ8Y66QM-

    Replies: @QCIC

    52? Huh, I thought 42 was the answer every discerning whale would know.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    I thought 42 was the answer every discerning whale would know.
     
    Not every whale read Douglas Adams.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  91. @QCIC
    @songbird

    52? Huh, I thought 42 was the answer every discerning whale would know.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I thought 42 was the answer every discerning whale would know.

    Not every whale read Douglas Adams.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    So long and thanks for all the fish!

  92. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    Does it strike you that Edgar Allan Poe could have had some mental/psychological imbalances that contributed to his works being so scary? (I read some of his works back in middle school, almost 20 years ago, if I remember correctly.) Though I suppose that it makes sense for people with mental/psychological problems to become great writers. There's even a term for this for poets specifically:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Plath_effect

    BTW, I have made an additional comment/response to you at the very end of the previous open thread (Open Thread 243). I hope that you would be willing to respond to it (obviously over there, not over here).

    Replies: @LatW

    [MORE]

    Does it strike you that Edgar Allan Poe could have had some mental/psychological imbalances that contributed to his works being so scary?

    He was just different.

    But he didn’t have an easy start. His mother died at a very young age, and he saw her dying, so he was separated from her from a very young age (just like the orca whale Tilikum who was ripped away from his mother by force and later was maligned when he reacted).

    We don’t know what is happening in their amygdala and how that affects them. It could be eating away at their neurons. But it’s not like they can help themselves. And there are good sides, there is beauty.

    His writing can be very orderly though, even if it does contain a lot of yearning and some borderline experiences, there is also a rationality and control in his way of writing. It is contained through his logic and introspection. And yet he has those romantic visual journeys and extreme “mental” descriptions.

    He has to sacrifice himself to create this for us (for the world, for eternity). Death is life’s biggest secret, but we will all reach this knowledge one day. It is written in our existence.

    (P.s. Будь осторожнее, не пости фотки, ты нарвёшься. Лучше позаботься о себе.)

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    Death is life’s biggest secret, but we will all reach this knowledge one day. It is written in our existence.
     
    Not if a sure to aging is found!

    BTW, what do you think about the book the Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne? Frankly, it was a great story; really touching. But there was an unintended side effect of me feeling about the scarlet letter much the same way as I do about hijabs--as in, the opposite of the effect that they're actually intended to have. The scarlet letter does send men a signal to constantly look at Hester's breasts, after all.


    (P.s. Будь осторожнее, не пости фотки, ты нарвёшься. Лучше позаботься о себе.)

     

    Will do! FWIW, none of these photos are actually illegal, but Yeah, I certainly don't want to get into any trouble.
    , @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    BTW, LatW, I have a question for you: Do you ever see the European Union or something very similar to it being created without one or both World Wars?

  93. Some preparation for another showdown or just usual diplomatic nothingburger?

    Wenbin stated that India does not possess the authority to unilaterally develop the region of Zangnan in China, which China identifies as Arunachal Pradesh.

    “The actions taken by India only serve to complicate the boundary issue. China strongly expresses its dissatisfaction with and firm opposition to the leader’s visit to the eastern section of the China-India boundary,” the Chinese official further stated.

    China has repeatedly objected to visits by Indian politicians to Arunachal Pradesh. However, India maintains that the state is an integral part of the country, and using “invented” names will not change this reality.

    On March 9, PM Modi inaugurated the Sela tunnel, which is the world’s longest two-lane tunnel, connecting Tezpur in Assam to Tawang in Arunachal. Constructed for Rs 825 crore, the tunnel stands at an altitude of 13,000 feet.

    The tunnel is set to offer year-round connectivity to Tawang, which borders China to the north, and is anticipated to enhance the transportation of troops and equipment to forward positions along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with China.

    Additionally, the tunnel will cut travel time from Tezpur to Tawang by more than an hour.

    https://www.opindia.com/2024/03/china-rattled-with-pm-modi-visit-to-arunachal-pradesh-lodges-a-diplomatic-protest/

  94. @Wokechoke
    Israel to send secret weapon to Ukraine.

    It’s called a Horowitzer 10cm gun. Designed by Portnoy & Rapoport. On firing it emits a high energy whine about its small barrel length and comparisons between Hitler & Putin, and how it is going to have its revenge on the Czar.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Drone kills 2 Russian regulars that were caught buttf-cking
    https://funker530.com/video/nsfw-russians-literally-caught-with-their-pants-down-by-bomb-drones/

    Good thing the Russians are saving Ukrainians from Western degeneracy by killing them.

    Russians caught buttf-cking before trying to kill their fellow Slavs.

    This 2.5 week special operation is doing wonders for Russia’s image.

    First Russian troops were on video stealing washing machines and now they were buttf-cking before the dwarf reaper ends their under-tank pleasure palace.

    Did you figure out how this war will stick it to the Jews that you hate so much? Two years later and you still don’t have an explanation. Putin’s Jewish propagandist makes weekly demands to attack Britain and yet you still want to believe this stupid war somehow sticks it to the Jews or that Ukraine is the Jewish side.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    That’s a Hebrew pun though. The Brits.

  95. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.
     
    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster. It is not 1950's or 1990's when you can manage US - or the world - with a random face with no deep political support. Everyone is at each others throat, the issues have accumulated and the Gordian knots have to be cut through.

    Biden has been a disaster. Any new keep-it-the-same Dem would be worse - maybe not demented, but that is decorative. The border situation, wars, barrista economy, un-payable debts, out-of-control identity groups, it is no longer manageable and needs to be addressed. That means winners and losers, a milky-toast non-entity will not do it.

    Trump may address it the way you don't like, but at least he would put some of it behind - it would be a huge relief. Biden-light will keep it simmering until it gets so bad that it is not fixable. Or do you want 500 million people country with increasingly fake money, losing wars all around the world, everyone hating each other internally and no material economy? That's the way Rome looked towards the end.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @A123, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson

    …It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.

    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster.

    I don’t have to anticipate anything. I’m not a Democrat and am merely stating what is possible.

    Polls show that a plain-vanilla Dem would in fact be a disaster for Trump. His best chance with independents is to face Biden. Independents want new candidates. The primary voters may love Trump but that was expected. Democrat primary voters also loved Hillary. In both cases there is a denial of how the electoral college works and how independent voters decide swing states.

    Trump may address it the way you don’t like, but at least he would put some of it behind – it would be a huge relief.

    I’m not convinced that Trump cares about the border.

    He botched it in his first run and he recently blew up the border deal.

    I am beginning to wonder if he is another Republican that talks about locking down the border but then behind closed doors is told that it needs to be open for the NYSE. Let’s not forget that he owns hotels that employ illegals.

    He would be better than Biden on the border but that is a low bar. But I am not convinced he would be better than Haley or similar. He let Bannon scam his own followers over the border. Or are we to believe he didn’t know about it? I really doubt that.

    What we really need is a populist who doesn’t have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...What we really need is a populist who doesn’t have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.
     
    I agree, but there isn't one. Trump is the closest thing. Yes he didn't do much about the border, but I don't think he made it worse. Biden or any Biden-light make it much worse...you are heading to 500 million people at this rate, and they are not the kind that can run the world.

    It is the same coalition as in Europe: crazy liberals and businesses that want plentiful, cheap and compliant workers - and more customers. It is a downward spiral, and Trump is a part of it. Maybe the better part, but he also won't solve it - only slow down the collapse.

    So-called independents change their mind and usually swing towards who they think will win. People vote for people who they can't stand all the time.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

  96. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Does it strike you that Edgar Allan Poe could have had some mental/psychological imbalances that contributed to his works being so scary?
     
    He was just different.

    But he didn't have an easy start. His mother died at a very young age, and he saw her dying, so he was separated from her from a very young age (just like the orca whale Tilikum who was ripped away from his mother by force and later was maligned when he reacted).

    We don't know what is happening in their amygdala and how that affects them. It could be eating away at their neurons. But it's not like they can help themselves. And there are good sides, there is beauty.

    His writing can be very orderly though, even if it does contain a lot of yearning and some borderline experiences, there is also a rationality and control in his way of writing. It is contained through his logic and introspection. And yet he has those romantic visual journeys and extreme "mental" descriptions.

    He has to sacrifice himself to create this for us (for the world, for eternity). Death is life's biggest secret, but we will all reach this knowledge one day. It is written in our existence.

    (P.s. Будь осторожнее, не пости фотки, ты нарвёшься. Лучше позаботься о себе.)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

    [MORE]

    Death is life’s biggest secret, but we will all reach this knowledge one day. It is written in our existence.

    Not if a sure to aging is found!

    BTW, what do you think about the book the Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne? Frankly, it was a great story; really touching. But there was an unintended side effect of me feeling about the scarlet letter much the same way as I do about hijabs–as in, the opposite of the effect that they’re actually intended to have. The scarlet letter does send men a signal to constantly look at Hester’s breasts, after all.

    (P.s. Будь осторожнее, не пости фотки, ты нарвёшься. Лучше позаботься о себе.)

    Will do! FWIW, none of these photos are actually illegal, but Yeah, I certainly don’t want to get into any trouble.

  97. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Does it strike you that Edgar Allan Poe could have had some mental/psychological imbalances that contributed to his works being so scary?
     
    He was just different.

    But he didn't have an easy start. His mother died at a very young age, and he saw her dying, so he was separated from her from a very young age (just like the orca whale Tilikum who was ripped away from his mother by force and later was maligned when he reacted).

    We don't know what is happening in their amygdala and how that affects them. It could be eating away at their neurons. But it's not like they can help themselves. And there are good sides, there is beauty.

    His writing can be very orderly though, even if it does contain a lot of yearning and some borderline experiences, there is also a rationality and control in his way of writing. It is contained through his logic and introspection. And yet he has those romantic visual journeys and extreme "mental" descriptions.

    He has to sacrifice himself to create this for us (for the world, for eternity). Death is life's biggest secret, but we will all reach this knowledge one day. It is written in our existence.

    (P.s. Будь осторожнее, не пости фотки, ты нарвёшься. Лучше позаботься о себе.)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, LatW, I have a question for you: Do you ever see the European Union or something very similar to it being created without one or both World Wars?

  98. Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time. Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things, while failing to enter the RF territory. Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes. The most interesting thing is that quite a few Western media outlets swallowed those fakes line, hook, and sinker, publishing them as if these were true. You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    They need something to cover up that Kiev (and thus Nato) is losing the war. I would like to know how they convinced the Ukie soldiers to go and die for a one-day media fake news story. They are either holding a gun to them from the back or the Ukies are really not that smart. Possibly they didn't tell them where they are going...back to stupidity.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time
     
    These were Russian turncoats armed by Ukrainians (again).

    Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things
     
    Russia does the same most days in various places. Avdiivka was an exception.

    Russia has Ben counter offensing all winter. What do you think that meant, given the very small and slow territorial gains during this time?

    Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes
     
    Gullible AnoninTN believes all the grotesque videos (including those shared by angry Russians) were computer generated.

    You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.
     
    Ironically, very applicable to you, the mirror image of the most optimistic anti-Russian Westerner.
    , @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN


    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time. Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things, while failing to enter the RF territory. Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes. The most interesting thing is that quite a few Western media outlets swallowed those fakes line, hook, and sinker, publishing them as if these were true. You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.
     
    Something that has been previously evident in numerous instances. The selectivity of the "fact check".

    Gotta laugh at the BS about how this pro-Kiev regime operation consists of disaffected Russians. Wouldn't surprise to find a svido contingent in that group along with some useful idiot Russians to their cause. Like the majority of Russians will embrace them.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN

  99. A123 says: • Website
    @Mr. XYZ
    @A123

    What about the current Illinois Governor? Or even the current New York Governor?

    Replies: @A123

    What about the current Illinois Governor?

    Who is that?

    I believe he is the wrong gender, wrong pigment, and has near zero national name recognition.

    Or even the current New York Governor?

    Hochul is the wrong pigment. And, she is nationally known for mishandling the Sanctuary State issue. There is no reason to believe that she would outperform the Veggie-In-Chief.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    Who is that?

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._B._Pritzker

    I believe he is the wrong gender, wrong pigment, and has near zero national name recognition.

     

    He's Jewish and has a lot of his own money, though. Would that work in his favor?

    Hochul is the wrong pigment. And, she is nationally known for mishandling the Sanctuary State issue. There is no reason to believe that she would outperform the Veggie-In-Chief.

     

    Thanks!

    What about Joe Manchin? Too unpopular with the Democratic base?

    Replies: @A123

  100. @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …It’s entirely possible for Biden to drop and take Harris with her.
     
    Then what? You need to anticipate. If a plain-vanilla Dem is thrown in to stop Trump it will be a disaster.

    I don't have to anticipate anything. I'm not a Democrat and am merely stating what is possible.

    Polls show that a plain-vanilla Dem would in fact be a disaster for Trump. His best chance with independents is to face Biden. Independents want new candidates. The primary voters may love Trump but that was expected. Democrat primary voters also loved Hillary. In both cases there is a denial of how the electoral college works and how independent voters decide swing states.

    Trump may address it the way you don’t like, but at least he would put some of it behind – it would be a huge relief.

    I'm not convinced that Trump cares about the border.

    He botched it in his first run and he recently blew up the border deal.

    I am beginning to wonder if he is another Republican that talks about locking down the border but then behind closed doors is told that it needs to be open for the NYSE. Let's not forget that he owns hotels that employ illegals.

    He would be better than Biden on the border but that is a low bar. But I am not convinced he would be better than Haley or similar. He let Bannon scam his own followers over the border. Or are we to believe he didn't know about it? I really doubt that.

    What we really need is a populist who doesn't have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …What we really need is a populist who doesn’t have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.

    I agree, but there isn’t one. Trump is the closest thing. Yes he didn’t do much about the border, but I don’t think he made it worse. Biden or any Biden-light make it much worse…you are heading to 500 million people at this rate, and they are not the kind that can run the world.

    It is the same coalition as in Europe: crazy liberals and businesses that want plentiful, cheap and compliant workers – and more customers. It is a downward spiral, and Trump is a part of it. Maybe the better part, but he also won’t solve it – only slow down the collapse.

    So-called independents change their mind and usually swing towards who they think will win. People vote for people who they can’t stand all the time.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    you are heading to 500 million people at this rate, and they are not the kind that can run the world.
     
    We are also getting sizable numbers of Chinese and Indians, often from those countries' middle classes.

    It is the same coalition as in Europe: crazy liberals and businesses that want plentiful, cheap and compliant workers – and more customers. It is a downward spiral, and Trump is a part of it. Maybe the better part, but he also won’t solve it – only slow down the collapse.
     
    Europe's main problem is the lack of selectivity with its Muslim immigrants:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/02/fiscal-impact-of-immigrants-by-country-of-origin/

    Murdering people over Islamophobic speech and supporting blasphemy laws are just a "bonus"!
    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …What we really need is a populist who doesn’t have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.

     

    I agree, but there isn’t one. Trump is the closest thing. Yes he didn’t do much about the border, but I don’t think he made it worse. Biden or any Biden-light make it much worse…you are heading to 500 million people at this rate, and they are not the kind that can run the world.

    Not making it worse is a pretty low bar given that he campaigned on fixing the border. He let Bannon rip off his own followers which is despicable. Schumer gave Trump a very generous offer on the border and he turned it down. I see no reason to believe that Trump cares about the border. He certainly cares about it as a campaign issue but his actions suggest that he is a cheap labor supporter. Hotels in the US are notorious for illegal labor. One of the worst industries in fact. In tourist areas the hotels are empty part of the year so they like to rid themselves of their maids. His hotels would certainly lose money if he had to hire Americans.

    He reminds me of Texas Republicans. For years they complained about the border and then would look the other way when in office. They are doing something now but only because they are completely swamped.

    Biden or any Biden-light make it much worse…you are heading to 500 million people at this rate

    I don't want Biden and I'll reserve judgement for any potential replacement. I would rather have Haley who supported the border compromise that Trump blew up. I do think an establishment Republican would be better on the border than Trump. I just got an ad where Trump asked me for money in a video. He said "times are tough" which speaks volumes. The guy is a billionaire and is asking for money. That shows he is completely shameless. Most of his followers are not wealthy and he is hitting them up for money like a broke uncle. I don't trust him to act in the best interest of the US. He could start by using his own damn money instead of asking rural Whites to fund his campaign. It came out that the is using their money to pay his legal bills and they don't care. Or I guess they watch Fox News and that is never mentioned.

    So-called independents change their mind and usually swing towards who they think will win. People vote for people who they can’t stand all the time.

    Yea there is certainly a popularity factor in every election. But polls have been clear that independents want new candidates. Trump has only slightly gained with independents because they don't think Biden is mentally capable. The bigger problem I see is that Trump does poorly with White women and they aren't budging. In a recent poll he had actually gained with Black and Hispanic men. College educated White women hate him and that matches what I have seen anecdotally. I don't think he can charm them over at this point.
  101. @AnonfromTN
    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time. Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things, while failing to enter the RF territory. Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes. The most interesting thing is that quite a few Western media outlets swallowed those fakes line, hook, and sinker, publishing them as if these were true. You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Mikhail

    They need something to cover up that Kiev (and thus Nato) is losing the war. I would like to know how they convinced the Ukie soldiers to go and die for a one-day media fake news story. They are either holding a gun to them from the back or the Ukies are really not that smart. Possibly they didn’t tell them where they are going…back to stupidity.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    or the Ukies are really not that smart.
     
    Smarter Ukies have run away already, some to Russia, some to Europe. I am glad that the sons of both my cousins fall into this category. Half-smart Ukies either hide from the draft in various ways or give bribes to the right people to avoid being drafted. Ukies that end up in their army are the dumbest of the dumb. Russia is actually culling the dumbest, thereby increasing average intelligence of whatever population remains in Ukraine.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

  102. @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    What about the current Illinois Governor?
     
    Who is that?

    I believe he is the wrong gender, wrong pigment, and has near zero national name recognition.

    Or even the current New York Governor?
     
    Hochul is the wrong pigment. And, she is nationally known for mishandling the Sanctuary State issue. There is no reason to believe that she would outperform the Veggie-In-Chief.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Who is that?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._B._Pritzker

    I believe he is the wrong gender, wrong pigment, and has near zero national name recognition.

    He’s Jewish and has a lot of his own money, though. Would that work in his favor?

    Hochul is the wrong pigment. And, she is nationally known for mishandling the Sanctuary State issue. There is no reason to believe that she would outperform the Veggie-In-Chief.

    Thanks!

    What about Joe Manchin? Too unpopular with the Democratic base?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    He’s Jewish and has a lot of his own money, though. Would that work in his favor?
     
    The Democrats are committed to SJW🏳️‍🌈Islam. Being Jewish is an instant disqualifier. Far, far, far too White.

    What about Joe Manchin? Too unpopular with the Democratic base?
     
    Wrong pigment. Wrong gender. And VERY unpopular with the progressive wing.

    He was courted by No Labels, but did not want to attempt the 3rd party route.

    PEACE 😇
  103. @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    Who is that?

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._B._Pritzker

    I believe he is the wrong gender, wrong pigment, and has near zero national name recognition.

     

    He's Jewish and has a lot of his own money, though. Would that work in his favor?

    Hochul is the wrong pigment. And, she is nationally known for mishandling the Sanctuary State issue. There is no reason to believe that she would outperform the Veggie-In-Chief.

     

    Thanks!

    What about Joe Manchin? Too unpopular with the Democratic base?

    Replies: @A123

    He’s Jewish and has a lot of his own money, though. Would that work in his favor?

    The Democrats are committed to SJW🏳️‍🌈Islam. Being Jewish is an instant disqualifier. Far, far, far too White.

    What about Joe Manchin? Too unpopular with the Democratic base?

    Wrong pigment. Wrong gender. And VERY unpopular with the progressive wing.

    He was courted by No Labels, but did not want to attempt the 3rd party route.

    PEACE 😇

  104. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Remember the covid thing? It was ~10% disease and 90% psyop. That’s the only reason Putin managed to cure the whole world of covid by starting SMO in Ukraine.

    Well it shut down hospitals all over the world so it was not merely hype. I don't remember the last time the flu season ended up with mass graves dug by tractors in first world countries.

    COVID ended because of Omicron. It mutated into a less deadly form and by that time the original had killed off high risk individuals. We now know that certain gene sets make people vulnerable. It's actually similar to Spanish Flu in that genetically vulnerable individuals have an overreaction. Then there are the high risk groups where their lifestyle is the problem. Obese libertarian smokers that don't want the vaccine for example.

    If you read the news in the US, everything domestic is “Trump”, everything international is “Putin”. So it goes…

    So what? Putin launched a full scale war and is threatening nuclear destruction of the entire planet. Trump is running for president and is just a tad divisive. Of course they will be in the news a lot. An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet and a real estate fraud is running for president and has felonies pending. Not a fan of the MSM but I would call that news.

    Replies: @Derer

    An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet

    Gee, such a power, I sense some fear in your exaggeration – first thing is you grab some diapers.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer


    An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet
     
    Gee, such a power, I sense some fear in your exaggeration – first thing is you grab some diapers.

    Oh ok I'll make it accurate for you:
    An angry 5'1 dictator is threatening to blow up the planet.

    Yea that really changes everything. Much less of a threat when you take out the word dwarf.

    We call him a dwarf in part because it is illegal in Russia. You can't call him a dwarf or depict him as a crab. It's also illegal to refer to him as little zatches. I'm not familiar with the reference but it has something to do with an ugly baby from a German folk tale.

    Replies: @Derer

  105. @AP
    @songbird

    Unlike blue whales, sperm whales have teeth and they can ram whatever is in the water, so they would probably kill an orca or three in such a fight. Blue whales would be hard to kill due to their sheer size but they seem to otherwise be more harmless.

    I read that the extinct Stellar sea cows were immune to orca attack (as adults) because they were so buoyant that the orcas couldn’t submerge them, and so huge that they were impervious to other attacks. So despite being slow and dumb they lives easy lives with no predators. Sadly, they were slow and helpless against human harpoons.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    What percentage of doctors would you say typically wear those rainbow lanyards? Every time I see doctors locally am suprised how many seem to be wearing them.

    Is it a choice? Or do they hand them out and say “Here are you new, gay credentials.”

    It seems to me something really curious. If I were running a medical establishment, even if I were gay, I’d be like “These are a problem, since they could create factions and favoritism.”. But for whatever reason that doesn’t seem to happen. I wonder what explains it – the fact that it is so tied to education, which makes subversion easier. Or that they make a lot of money off gays, or gays appear in the system a lot with gay problems, leading to more gay pressure.

  106. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...What we really need is a populist who doesn’t have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.
     
    I agree, but there isn't one. Trump is the closest thing. Yes he didn't do much about the border, but I don't think he made it worse. Biden or any Biden-light make it much worse...you are heading to 500 million people at this rate, and they are not the kind that can run the world.

    It is the same coalition as in Europe: crazy liberals and businesses that want plentiful, cheap and compliant workers - and more customers. It is a downward spiral, and Trump is a part of it. Maybe the better part, but he also won't solve it - only slow down the collapse.

    So-called independents change their mind and usually swing towards who they think will win. People vote for people who they can't stand all the time.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    you are heading to 500 million people at this rate, and they are not the kind that can run the world.

    We are also getting sizable numbers of Chinese and Indians, often from those countries’ middle classes.

    It is the same coalition as in Europe: crazy liberals and businesses that want plentiful, cheap and compliant workers – and more customers. It is a downward spiral, and Trump is a part of it. Maybe the better part, but he also won’t solve it – only slow down the collapse.

    Europe’s main problem is the lack of selectivity with its Muslim immigrants:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/02/fiscal-impact-of-immigrants-by-country-of-origin/

    Murdering people over Islamophobic speech and supporting blasphemy laws are just a “bonus”!

  107. @Mr. XYZ
    @Not Raul

    Thanks!

    It’s interesting: Some multiethnic countries, such as Iraq and Nigeria, survived attempts to break them up while others, such as Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Pakistan (in 1971) did not.

    Any chance that you could see a similar outcome for Afghanistan sometime down the future?

    Replies: @Derer

    Strong candidate for the inclusion in your list is the EU, how long the European taxpayers will support the 50 thou Brussels partying bureaucrats.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    The EU allows Europeans to be a part of a half-billion-strong confederation. That's nothing to scoff at! If EU bureaucrats misbehave, couldn't they simply get fired and replaced with new, better ones?

    The Russian war in Ukraine saw an increase in support for the EU across the EU.

    Replies: @Derer

  108. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    I thought 42 was the answer every discerning whale would know.
     
    Not every whale read Douglas Adams.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    So long and thanks for all the fish!

  109. @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Drone kills 2 Russian regulars that were caught buttf-cking
    https://funker530.com/video/nsfw-russians-literally-caught-with-their-pants-down-by-bomb-drones/

    Good thing the Russians are saving Ukrainians from Western degeneracy by killing them.

    Russians caught buttf-cking before trying to kill their fellow Slavs.

    This 2.5 week special operation is doing wonders for Russia's image.

    First Russian troops were on video stealing washing machines and now they were buttf-cking before the dwarf reaper ends their under-tank pleasure palace.

    Did you figure out how this war will stick it to the Jews that you hate so much? Two years later and you still don't have an explanation. Putin's Jewish propagandist makes weekly demands to attack Britain and yet you still want to believe this stupid war somehow sticks it to the Jews or that Ukraine is the Jewish side.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    That’s a Hebrew pun though. The Brits.

  110. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    Strong candidate for the inclusion in your list is the EU, how long the European taxpayers will support the 50 thou Brussels partying bureaucrats.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    The EU allows Europeans to be a part of a half-billion-strong confederation. That’s nothing to scoff at! If EU bureaucrats misbehave, couldn’t they simply get fired and replaced with new, better ones?

    The Russian war in Ukraine saw an increase in support for the EU across the EU.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Soviets disintegrated as soon as dictatorial centre (communist) yoke has been defeated. These are precedent models for EU dictatorial centre, that keep it together, to fail in due time.

    No force will defeat the nationalistic feelings of each country in the union. Is not Ukraine such an example? Greece or Italy and others (UK reacted faster) will keep their borders sovereign much better then partying dimwits in Brussels.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  111. @LatW
    @songbird


    It is funny how killers eat all these endangered animals.
     
    Yes, it's pretty crazy, it's like a Porsche totaling a Lamborghini. From today's perspective, you feel it as a loss, but it must have been intended so in the Nature, although there are changes in their habitat, so who knows what is natural and right and what isn't. Apparently, there used to be pre-historic orcas as well, or some kind of an orca ancestor. And they may have fought with ancient whales. Orcas are a sacred animal.

    Though I wonder if the fish ones would be healthier and have less chemicals in them.
     
    Contamination is a big problem for them (as is industrial noise), they are themselves contaminated apparently, and some of them are running out of salmon, which is totally lame. :(

    They predicted they would cancel Poe over it – they had just put up his statue recently in Boston
     
    Well, did they want to cancel him? I wonder why there wouldn't be a statue to him in Boston long ago. That particular book does have some "racism" in it, don't know how deliberate or just widely held views of that time. Poe cannot be cancelled because he lives in his own dimension. He is a cult writer among European goths, btw. I had a volume of his books that had been published in the 1920s, but I sold it to an acquaintance. I almost want it back now.

    Replies: @songbird

    I wonder why there wouldn’t be a statue to him in Boston long ago.

    Well, I would say he’s been a popular figure here for a while, but there has been an evolution in the culture.

    Back then, it would have been seen as improper for Boston to claim him as a native son. He was born there, but his connection to Boston is mostly tenuous. He did not write his famous stories there and his family didn’t come from there. (His mother English and his father was from Baltimore). Nor did he grow up there. He was seen as Baltimore’s and not Boston’s. (And Boston did have its own famous writers.)

    Since then, people are claiming more and more tenuous connections, hence the statue. Which however is much cooler than many others.

    BTW, it is interesting how his father was an actor and he married his 13 y.o. cousin. I wonder if he was descended from a Cromwellian soldier in Ireland.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Since then, people are claiming more and more tenuous connections, hence the statue. Which however is much cooler than many others.
     
    Well, even if it's somewhat tenuous, he is big enough to have statues nationwide. But I see how someone might want to be conservative about it. It looks great! It is a little unconventional looking so maybe they'll leave it alone 20 years from now? The raven is just amazing. He's walking down the street. It may have been nicer to put it in a more secluded place, in a park, surrounded by big trees. A bit more sombre atmosphere.

    BTW, it is interesting how his father was an actor and he married his 13 y.o. cousin
     
    Yes, but they put her age as 21 on the marriage certificate. And they had an ok marriage afaik. He was quite young, too.

    I wonder if he was descended from a Cromwellian soldier in Ireland.
     

    It shows that he's Irish (they are verbally astute - or rather, have a literary gift). He was in the military for a while.

    Replies: @songbird

  112. Another good reason to support MAGA: (1)

    Donald Trump has vowed to release individuals imprisoned over the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capitol if he wins the 2024 election in November

    President Trump made the comments in a statement on Truth Social on March 11, noting that it would be among one of his first acts upon taking office in the White House.

    The Republican said shutting down the U.S.-Mexico border and increasing oil drilling as part of efforts to make America more energy independent would also be among his first actions as president.

    “My first acts as your next President will be to Close the Border, DRILL, BABY, DRILL, and Free the January 6 Hostages being wrongfully imprisoned!” President Trump said.

    President Trump said during a rally in Texas in 2022 that he would consider pardoning those convicted of their involvement in the Jan. 6 breach, noting that his administration would treat them “fairly.”

    “If it requires pardons, we will give them pardons, because they are being treated so unfairly,” he said at the time.

    Last year, President Trump told a town hall hosted by CNN at Saint Anselm College in New Hampshire that he was inclined to pardon a “large portion” of those charged with crimes relating to the breach.

    J6 Reparations has a nice ring to it. How much federal money should go to compensating those kidnapped by Not-The-President Biden’s illegitimate regime?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-vows-free-jan-6-hostages-first-act-president

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    J6 Reparations has a nice ring to it. How much federal money should go to compensating those kidnapped by Not-The-President Biden’s illegitimate regime?

    What about the MAGA peaceful protestors that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    If a Black protestor beat on a White cop with a hockey stick at a BLM riot would you support a pardon for him?

    #NewCandidatesPlease

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @A123

  113. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...What we really need is a populist who doesn’t have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.
     
    I agree, but there isn't one. Trump is the closest thing. Yes he didn't do much about the border, but I don't think he made it worse. Biden or any Biden-light make it much worse...you are heading to 500 million people at this rate, and they are not the kind that can run the world.

    It is the same coalition as in Europe: crazy liberals and businesses that want plentiful, cheap and compliant workers - and more customers. It is a downward spiral, and Trump is a part of it. Maybe the better part, but he also won't solve it - only slow down the collapse.

    So-called independents change their mind and usually swing towards who they think will win. People vote for people who they can't stand all the time.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    …What we really need is a populist who doesn’t have hundreds of millions invested in an economic system that prioritizes the profit from using illegals over the country.

    I agree, but there isn’t one. Trump is the closest thing. Yes he didn’t do much about the border, but I don’t think he made it worse. Biden or any Biden-light make it much worse…you are heading to 500 million people at this rate, and they are not the kind that can run the world.

    Not making it worse is a pretty low bar given that he campaigned on fixing the border. He let Bannon rip off his own followers which is despicable. Schumer gave Trump a very generous offer on the border and he turned it down. I see no reason to believe that Trump cares about the border. He certainly cares about it as a campaign issue but his actions suggest that he is a cheap labor supporter. Hotels in the US are notorious for illegal labor. One of the worst industries in fact. In tourist areas the hotels are empty part of the year so they like to rid themselves of their maids. His hotels would certainly lose money if he had to hire Americans.

    He reminds me of Texas Republicans. For years they complained about the border and then would look the other way when in office. They are doing something now but only because they are completely swamped.

    Biden or any Biden-light make it much worse…you are heading to 500 million people at this rate

    I don’t want Biden and I’ll reserve judgement for any potential replacement. I would rather have Haley who supported the border compromise that Trump blew up. I do think an establishment Republican would be better on the border than Trump. I just got an ad where Trump asked me for money in a video. He said “times are tough” which speaks volumes. The guy is a billionaire and is asking for money. That shows he is completely shameless. Most of his followers are not wealthy and he is hitting them up for money like a broke uncle. I don’t trust him to act in the best interest of the US. He could start by using his own damn money instead of asking rural Whites to fund his campaign. It came out that the is using their money to pay his legal bills and they don’t care. Or I guess they watch Fox News and that is never mentioned.

    So-called independents change their mind and usually swing towards who they think will win. People vote for people who they can’t stand all the time.

    Yea there is certainly a popularity factor in every election. But polls have been clear that independents want new candidates. Trump has only slightly gained with independents because they don’t think Biden is mentally capable. The bigger problem I see is that Trump does poorly with White women and they aren’t budging. In a recent poll he had actually gained with Black and Hispanic men. College educated White women hate him and that matches what I have seen anecdotally. I don’t think he can charm them over at this point.

  114. @Derer
    @John Johnson


    An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet
     
    Gee, such a power, I sense some fear in your exaggeration - first thing is you grab some diapers.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet

    Gee, such a power, I sense some fear in your exaggeration – first thing is you grab some diapers.

    Oh ok I’ll make it accurate for you:
    An angry 5’1 dictator is threatening to blow up the planet.

    Yea that really changes everything. Much less of a threat when you take out the word dwarf.

    We call him a dwarf in part because it is illegal in Russia. You can’t call him a dwarf or depict him as a crab. It’s also illegal to refer to him as little zatches. I’m not familiar with the reference but it has something to do with an ugly baby from a German folk tale.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Watch out, he is in great company Stalin, Napoleon, Deng. For some reason you are avoiding your dwarf Zelensky title.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  115. @songbird
    @LatW


    I wonder why there wouldn’t be a statue to him in Boston long ago.
     
    Well, I would say he's been a popular figure here for a while, but there has been an evolution in the culture.

    Back then, it would have been seen as improper for Boston to claim him as a native son. He was born there, but his connection to Boston is mostly tenuous. He did not write his famous stories there and his family didn't come from there. (His mother English and his father was from Baltimore). Nor did he grow up there. He was seen as Baltimore's and not Boston's. (And Boston did have its own famous writers.)

    Since then, people are claiming more and more tenuous connections, hence the statue. Which however is much cooler than many others.

    BTW, it is interesting how his father was an actor and he married his 13 y.o. cousin. I wonder if he was descended from a Cromwellian soldier in Ireland.

    Replies: @LatW

    Since then, people are claiming more and more tenuous connections, hence the statue. Which however is much cooler than many others.

    Well, even if it’s somewhat tenuous, he is big enough to have statues nationwide. But I see how someone might want to be conservative about it. It looks great! It is a little unconventional looking so maybe they’ll leave it alone 20 years from now? The raven is just amazing. He’s walking down the street. It may have been nicer to put it in a more secluded place, in a park, surrounded by big trees. A bit more sombre atmosphere.

    BTW, it is interesting how his father was an actor and he married his 13 y.o. cousin

    Yes, but they put her age as 21 on the marriage certificate. And they had an ok marriage afaik. He was quite young, too.

    I wonder if he was descended from a Cromwellian soldier in Ireland.

    It shows that he’s Irish (they are verbally astute – or rather, have a literary gift). He was in the military for a while.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    It shows that he’s Irish
     
    Would guess that his family probably did not admix much, but who knows for sure? Likely untestable.

    or rather, have a literary gift).
     
    Ireland's most famous writers were almost all Prots. (And not very Irish for the most part, Joyce being the exception.)

    I myself would put it down to class. The natives were just about entirely dispossessed of their land by Swift's time. One of Ireland's most famous writers was actually the landlord of a branch of my family.

    I myself enjoyed the books written by the Aran Islanders, but they'd probably be a niche interest for most people. Of course, there are many American writers who had some Irish descent, but I would rather not be associated with Flannery O'Connor. I feel like I might like Margaret Mitchell, as I have heard a reactionary praise her, but I have never read her. And,of course, there are many others. (Ex: the neocon Tom Clancy)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @LatW

  116. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...We’d be lucky if we survive the death of the US empire. Otherwise, human history will be set back 10-15 thousand years
     
    I agree, this is getting serious. I suspect if the worst happens it would not be comprehensive and large parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia would survive. But the earth would be hell, these liberal fanatics would really do a climate change on mankind.

    Most leaders are redundant, they serve no purpose, pursue no policies of their own, they are there just because someone has to be upfront. But in times like these a real leader who can change things and also stop the worst from happening is extremely important. In the West the closest to that is Trump. In Russia they have a rational although not very decisive leader in Putin. The odds of a nuke exchange with the two are less - they are both normal. Biden is not.

    With a newbie weakling in US it would be a toss-up, but likely things would escalate and get worse. If Putin is gone it could be a two-way catastrophe. This is serious...maybe moving to Bariloche is not such a bad idea, the bad-toupée-weirdo could make it livable. But probably not, he is a fake.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mikel

    I agree, this is getting serious. I suspect if the worst happens it would not be comprehensive and large parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia would survive.

    Yes, it’s getting serious. Which makes me wonder why you dismissed Macron’s threats in the other thread. I think he most likely means what he said, why wouldn’t he? These people, especially in Europe, are still full of hubris. Here in the US there has been some contrition for all the foreign misadventures of the past decades but I don’t see the Macron types having any regrets about Libya, Afghanistan (where they were planning to stay indefinitely when Biden pulled the plug) and all the rest. Now it’s Russia’s turn to receive a lesson.

    The other problem with politicians is that they become hostages of their own words. Perhaps he was just sour about that missile in Kharkiv that allegedly killed dozens of French volunteers (?). But once they run their mouths, they’d rather start a war than lose face and take back what they said. It’s happened all throughout history.

    Regardless of Macron’s utterances, the situation is objectively serious. Some months ago if you read between the lines in all the major newspapers, it looked like people were getting ready for negotiations but somebody, once again, seems to have called them off. The biggest problem is the huge conventional military imbalance between NATO and Russia. We’ve been watching Russia struggle against Ukraine for 2 years and there’s little question that if NATO decides that they cannot let Ukraine lose and put in motion their troops, air power and navy in full force it’s going to be a rout. Russia has nothing but their nukes to contain such a threat.

    Of course, if Macron, the Balts, et al get their way there’s always a possibility that Putin may decide that he doesn’t care all that much about Crimea and Donbas and lose face rather than start Armageddon. That must be their calculation. But where is the guarantee that he won’t decide that he has no future after such a defeat and will not prefer to take us all with him rather than face Saddam’s fate? Would Saddam have ended in the gallows if he had had thousands of nuclear weapons?

    We’re in totally uncharted territory. The Cuban crisis lasted a few weeks, one of the parties de-escalated and there were ongoing negotiations. We’ve been at this for 2 years now and there is no end in sight. Nobody’s blinking and there are plenty of people who actually want to escalate.

    Taking a bit of a distance to look at the events the insanity is almost comical. If Putin really was planning to send his divisions to the English Channel or if he was trying to impose the Marxist-Putinist system all around the world, we might perhaps discuss if it was worth it risking nuclear annihilation to prevent those goals. But what are we discussing the risk of nuclear war for? To make sure that we can expand NATO eastwards a little more and that the administrative borders of the Soviet Union drawn by communist dictators remain in place, even if the people actually living inside those borders don’t like them? What a comically stupid way of ending centuries of civilization.

    • Agree: Goddard
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel

    An old saying says that history repeats first as tragedy then as comedy. If WW2 was the tragedy, we are due for a comedic relief...ending the civilization over who manages the street cleaning in Donetsk is beyond comical.

    That's why both sides busily make it into more: "Russia wants to implement dictatorship in Europe, occupy everything" (how would they do it? they have no soldiers) and "it is an existential struggle for Russia". I give more credence to the Russian side that it is about their very existence.

    Macron talks wildly but not without supervision. His escalation is a boo-boo to show Russia that the West could go nuts - an old principle to play a madman (Nixon was proud of it.)


    he doesn’t care all that much about Crimea and Donbas and lose face rather than start Armageddon.
     
    That would apply to both sides. But there is zero chance that Russia would let Crimea go - they will go nuclear if it comes to that. It is like losing Florida for US - the final red line.

    the huge conventional military imbalance between NATO and Russia...if NATO decides that they cannot let Ukraine lose and put in motion their troops, air power and navy in full force it’s going to be a rout. Russia has nothing but their nukes to contain such a threat.
     
    That's not true - Nato would not win in a conventional conflict, they don't have the soldiers and the soldiers are not willing to die. The Russian-Ukraine conflict is between two strongest parts of the old Soviet Union, the two toughest armies there are. Nato has nothing like that, maybe Turkey but they wouldn't do it.

    If there is a war, most of Europe would be attacked by missiles: cities, infrastructure, bases - it is not protectable. Even before nukes this could be an absolute catastrophe. But I agree with you that in the last few months we have moved back into escalation. This is incredibly serious.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @Wokechoke
    @Mikel

    It’s a typically Jewish way to decide the fate of Europe though. Very comical lol hah hehehe. Motherfucker.

    Replies: @S1

  117. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    They need something to cover up that Kiev (and thus Nato) is losing the war. I would like to know how they convinced the Ukie soldiers to go and die for a one-day media fake news story. They are either holding a gun to them from the back or the Ukies are really not that smart. Possibly they didn't tell them where they are going...back to stupidity.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    or the Ukies are really not that smart.

    Smarter Ukies have run away already, some to Russia, some to Europe. I am glad that the sons of both my cousins fall into this category. Half-smart Ukies either hide from the draft in various ways or give bribes to the right people to avoid being drafted. Ukies that end up in their army are the dumbest of the dumb. Russia is actually culling the dumbest, thereby increasing average intelligence of whatever population remains in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    increasing average intelligence of whatever population remains in Ukraine.
     
    They are not doing it fast enough...even dumbos usually have minimal self-preservation and a nose for when someone is playing them. The Ukies seem to lack all of it - one huge cosmic evolutionary failure. It is right there with the Indios who sold Manhattan for a few shiny beads...the Ukies got cookies instead and lofty promises.

    And they invaded Russia, this is beyond crazy...

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    Ukies that end up in their army are the dumbest of the dumb.
     
    An those within the Russian army are supposedly the smartest of the smart?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AnonfromTN

  118. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    I agree, this is getting serious. I suspect if the worst happens it would not be comprehensive and large parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia would survive.
     
    Yes, it's getting serious. Which makes me wonder why you dismissed Macron's threats in the other thread. I think he most likely means what he said, why wouldn't he? These people, especially in Europe, are still full of hubris. Here in the US there has been some contrition for all the foreign misadventures of the past decades but I don't see the Macron types having any regrets about Libya, Afghanistan (where they were planning to stay indefinitely when Biden pulled the plug) and all the rest. Now it's Russia's turn to receive a lesson.

    The other problem with politicians is that they become hostages of their own words. Perhaps he was just sour about that missile in Kharkiv that allegedly killed dozens of French volunteers (?). But once they run their mouths, they'd rather start a war than lose face and take back what they said. It's happened all throughout history.

    Regardless of Macron's utterances, the situation is objectively serious. Some months ago if you read between the lines in all the major newspapers, it looked like people were getting ready for negotiations but somebody, once again, seems to have called them off. The biggest problem is the huge conventional military imbalance between NATO and Russia. We've been watching Russia struggle against Ukraine for 2 years and there's little question that if NATO decides that they cannot let Ukraine lose and put in motion their troops, air power and navy in full force it's going to be a rout. Russia has nothing but their nukes to contain such a threat.

    Of course, if Macron, the Balts, et al get their way there's always a possibility that Putin may decide that he doesn't care all that much about Crimea and Donbas and lose face rather than start Armageddon. That must be their calculation. But where is the guarantee that he won't decide that he has no future after such a defeat and will not prefer to take us all with him rather than face Saddam's fate? Would Saddam have ended in the gallows if he had had thousands of nuclear weapons?

    We're in totally uncharted territory. The Cuban crisis lasted a few weeks, one of the parties de-escalated and there were ongoing negotiations. We've been at this for 2 years now and there is no end in sight. Nobody's blinking and there are plenty of people who actually want to escalate.

    Taking a bit of a distance to look at the events the insanity is almost comical. If Putin really was planning to send his divisions to the English Channel or if he was trying to impose the Marxist-Putinist system all around the world, we might perhaps discuss if it was worth it risking nuclear annihilation to prevent those goals. But what are we discussing the risk of nuclear war for? To make sure that we can expand NATO eastwards a little more and that the administrative borders of the Soviet Union drawn by communist dictators remain in place, even if the people actually living inside those borders don't like them? What a comically stupid way of ending centuries of civilization.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    An old saying says that history repeats first as tragedy then as comedy. If WW2 was the tragedy, we are due for a comedic relief…ending the civilization over who manages the street cleaning in Donetsk is beyond comical.

    That’s why both sides busily make it into more: “Russia wants to implement dictatorship in Europe, occupy everything” (how would they do it? they have no soldiers) and “it is an existential struggle for Russia”. I give more credence to the Russian side that it is about their very existence.

    Macron talks wildly but not without supervision. His escalation is a boo-boo to show Russia that the West could go nuts – an old principle to play a madman (Nixon was proud of it.)

    he doesn’t care all that much about Crimea and Donbas and lose face rather than start Armageddon.

    That would apply to both sides. But there is zero chance that Russia would let Crimea go – they will go nuclear if it comes to that. It is like losing Florida for US – the final red line.

    the huge conventional military imbalance between NATO and Russia…if NATO decides that they cannot let Ukraine lose and put in motion their troops, air power and navy in full force it’s going to be a rout. Russia has nothing but their nukes to contain such a threat.

    That’s not true – Nato would not win in a conventional conflict, they don’t have the soldiers and the soldiers are not willing to die. The Russian-Ukraine conflict is between two strongest parts of the old Soviet Union, the two toughest armies there are. Nato has nothing like that, maybe Turkey but they wouldn’t do it.

    If there is a war, most of Europe would be attacked by missiles: cities, infrastructure, bases – it is not protectable. Even before nukes this could be an absolute catastrophe. But I agree with you that in the last few months we have moved back into escalation. This is incredibly serious.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Beckow


    the soldiers are not willing to die
     
    The Ukrainians have plenty of manpower and NATO is a huge coalition. They'd find more than enough men between both of them.

    If there is a war, most of Europe would be attacked by missiles: cities, infrastructure, bases
     
    Standoff weapons have shown to have limited value in a major war like this. It's still about conquering territory, trench by trench, village by village. Russian missiles falling on Western European cities would surely weaken the resolve of the population, who barely know or care about what's going on, but by that point it would quickly escalate to nukes. Russia has no other way of stopping a NATO retaliation and they've actually said as much. I think it was Putin himself who acknowledged the force disparity.

    In the midst of this madness, the only positive thing I see is that now that the Haley witch is out, no one likely to become US president is going to join Macron and (officially) send US troops to Ukraine to fight the Russians. But the Europeans could escalate to a point of no return by themselves. I remember the fear of nuclear war in the 80s perfectly well, when hundreds of thousands would demonstrate against the Pershing missiles. That fear is totally gone, no one cares anymore.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Beckow

  119. @Beckow
    @Mikel

    An old saying says that history repeats first as tragedy then as comedy. If WW2 was the tragedy, we are due for a comedic relief...ending the civilization over who manages the street cleaning in Donetsk is beyond comical.

    That's why both sides busily make it into more: "Russia wants to implement dictatorship in Europe, occupy everything" (how would they do it? they have no soldiers) and "it is an existential struggle for Russia". I give more credence to the Russian side that it is about their very existence.

    Macron talks wildly but not without supervision. His escalation is a boo-boo to show Russia that the West could go nuts - an old principle to play a madman (Nixon was proud of it.)


    he doesn’t care all that much about Crimea and Donbas and lose face rather than start Armageddon.
     
    That would apply to both sides. But there is zero chance that Russia would let Crimea go - they will go nuclear if it comes to that. It is like losing Florida for US - the final red line.

    the huge conventional military imbalance between NATO and Russia...if NATO decides that they cannot let Ukraine lose and put in motion their troops, air power and navy in full force it’s going to be a rout. Russia has nothing but their nukes to contain such a threat.
     
    That's not true - Nato would not win in a conventional conflict, they don't have the soldiers and the soldiers are not willing to die. The Russian-Ukraine conflict is between two strongest parts of the old Soviet Union, the two toughest armies there are. Nato has nothing like that, maybe Turkey but they wouldn't do it.

    If there is a war, most of Europe would be attacked by missiles: cities, infrastructure, bases - it is not protectable. Even before nukes this could be an absolute catastrophe. But I agree with you that in the last few months we have moved back into escalation. This is incredibly serious.

    Replies: @Mikel

    the soldiers are not willing to die

    The Ukrainians have plenty of manpower and NATO is a huge coalition. They’d find more than enough men between both of them.

    If there is a war, most of Europe would be attacked by missiles: cities, infrastructure, bases

    Standoff weapons have shown to have limited value in a major war like this. It’s still about conquering territory, trench by trench, village by village. Russian missiles falling on Western European cities would surely weaken the resolve of the population, who barely know or care about what’s going on, but by that point it would quickly escalate to nukes. Russia has no other way of stopping a NATO retaliation and they’ve actually said as much. I think it was Putin himself who acknowledged the force disparity.

    In the midst of this madness, the only positive thing I see is that now that the Haley witch is out, no one likely to become US president is going to join Macron and (officially) send US troops to Ukraine to fight the Russians. But the Europeans could escalate to a point of no return by themselves. I remember the fear of nuclear war in the 80s perfectly well, when hundreds of thousands would demonstrate against the Pershing missiles. That fear is totally gone, no one cares anymore.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    There is a simple solution which is for NATO countries to loan Ukraine money so they can buy mercenaries on the market.

    Russia is hiring Cubans and Nepalis so they really can't complain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze-0-d8LJz0

    , @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...Ukrainians have plenty of manpower
     
    Not enough to defeat Russia. The additional soldiers would have to come from Europe - and be willing to die in large numbers, a few hundred thousand Euro troops. Europe doesn't have them and US is not coming.

    Standoff weapons have shown to have limited value in a major war like this. It’s still about conquering territory, trench by trench, village by village.
     
    Not if it is Nato vs. Russia, it would be about remote destruction and quickly go nuclear. My point is that Russia can't be defeated in a conventional war, they have regional dominance and more soldiers. In a nuclear war there is no winning or losing. So why do Kiev-Nato insist on escalating the war? It is a losing strategy.

    The disparity in power is on a global level - in the area of the actual war Russia has substantial dominance and that can't be changed unless Europe goes back to WW2 mentality and fights willing to lose large number of men. And the destruction.

  120. @LatW
    @songbird


    Since then, people are claiming more and more tenuous connections, hence the statue. Which however is much cooler than many others.
     
    Well, even if it's somewhat tenuous, he is big enough to have statues nationwide. But I see how someone might want to be conservative about it. It looks great! It is a little unconventional looking so maybe they'll leave it alone 20 years from now? The raven is just amazing. He's walking down the street. It may have been nicer to put it in a more secluded place, in a park, surrounded by big trees. A bit more sombre atmosphere.

    BTW, it is interesting how his father was an actor and he married his 13 y.o. cousin
     
    Yes, but they put her age as 21 on the marriage certificate. And they had an ok marriage afaik. He was quite young, too.

    I wonder if he was descended from a Cromwellian soldier in Ireland.
     

    It shows that he's Irish (they are verbally astute - or rather, have a literary gift). He was in the military for a while.

    Replies: @songbird

    It shows that he’s Irish

    Would guess that his family probably did not admix much, but who knows for sure? Likely untestable.

    or rather, have a literary gift).

    Ireland’s most famous writers were almost all Prots. (And not very Irish for the most part, Joyce being the exception.)

    I myself would put it down to class. The natives were just about entirely dispossessed of their land by Swift’s time. One of Ireland’s most famous writers was actually the landlord of a branch of my family.

    I myself enjoyed the books written by the Aran Islanders, but they’d probably be a niche interest for most people. Of course, there are many American writers who had some Irish descent, but I would rather not be associated with Flannery O’Connor. I feel like I might like Margaret Mitchell, as I have heard a reactionary praise her, but I have never read her. And,of course, there are many others. (Ex: the neocon Tom Clancy)

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    It’s funny how these oddballs from the East say so and so was Irish or whatever.


    Poe is very English name. Especially following Edgar.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    , @LatW
    @songbird

    What about Oscar Wilde? Oh, you probably hate him... too decadent. :) lol

    Replies: @songbird

  121. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    I agree, this is getting serious. I suspect if the worst happens it would not be comprehensive and large parts of Africa, Latin America and Asia would survive.
     
    Yes, it's getting serious. Which makes me wonder why you dismissed Macron's threats in the other thread. I think he most likely means what he said, why wouldn't he? These people, especially in Europe, are still full of hubris. Here in the US there has been some contrition for all the foreign misadventures of the past decades but I don't see the Macron types having any regrets about Libya, Afghanistan (where they were planning to stay indefinitely when Biden pulled the plug) and all the rest. Now it's Russia's turn to receive a lesson.

    The other problem with politicians is that they become hostages of their own words. Perhaps he was just sour about that missile in Kharkiv that allegedly killed dozens of French volunteers (?). But once they run their mouths, they'd rather start a war than lose face and take back what they said. It's happened all throughout history.

    Regardless of Macron's utterances, the situation is objectively serious. Some months ago if you read between the lines in all the major newspapers, it looked like people were getting ready for negotiations but somebody, once again, seems to have called them off. The biggest problem is the huge conventional military imbalance between NATO and Russia. We've been watching Russia struggle against Ukraine for 2 years and there's little question that if NATO decides that they cannot let Ukraine lose and put in motion their troops, air power and navy in full force it's going to be a rout. Russia has nothing but their nukes to contain such a threat.

    Of course, if Macron, the Balts, et al get their way there's always a possibility that Putin may decide that he doesn't care all that much about Crimea and Donbas and lose face rather than start Armageddon. That must be their calculation. But where is the guarantee that he won't decide that he has no future after such a defeat and will not prefer to take us all with him rather than face Saddam's fate? Would Saddam have ended in the gallows if he had had thousands of nuclear weapons?

    We're in totally uncharted territory. The Cuban crisis lasted a few weeks, one of the parties de-escalated and there were ongoing negotiations. We've been at this for 2 years now and there is no end in sight. Nobody's blinking and there are plenty of people who actually want to escalate.

    Taking a bit of a distance to look at the events the insanity is almost comical. If Putin really was planning to send his divisions to the English Channel or if he was trying to impose the Marxist-Putinist system all around the world, we might perhaps discuss if it was worth it risking nuclear annihilation to prevent those goals. But what are we discussing the risk of nuclear war for? To make sure that we can expand NATO eastwards a little more and that the administrative borders of the Soviet Union drawn by communist dictators remain in place, even if the people actually living inside those borders don't like them? What a comically stupid way of ending centuries of civilization.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    It’s a typically Jewish way to decide the fate of Europe though. Very comical lol hah hehehe. Motherfucker.

    • Replies: @S1
    @Wokechoke

    For the record, I think there is plenty of responsibility to share for the present sad state of global affairs.

    Having said that, the hypothetical mutual destruction of the United States (the 'New Rome') and Russia (the 'Third Rome'), the spiritual heirs of Rome's Western and Eastern portions, in a new world war, could be perceived as revenge amongst certain quarters of the Jewish people for 70 AD.

    Never forgive. Never forget.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaea_Capta_coinage

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Titus_Augustus_Denarius.png

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Sestertius_-_Vespasiano_-_Iudaea_Capta-RIC_0424.jpg

  122. @songbird
    @LatW


    It shows that he’s Irish
     
    Would guess that his family probably did not admix much, but who knows for sure? Likely untestable.

    or rather, have a literary gift).
     
    Ireland's most famous writers were almost all Prots. (And not very Irish for the most part, Joyce being the exception.)

    I myself would put it down to class. The natives were just about entirely dispossessed of their land by Swift's time. One of Ireland's most famous writers was actually the landlord of a branch of my family.

    I myself enjoyed the books written by the Aran Islanders, but they'd probably be a niche interest for most people. Of course, there are many American writers who had some Irish descent, but I would rather not be associated with Flannery O'Connor. I feel like I might like Margaret Mitchell, as I have heard a reactionary praise her, but I have never read her. And,of course, there are many others. (Ex: the neocon Tom Clancy)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @LatW

    It’s funny how these oddballs from the East say so and so was Irish or whatever.

    Poe is very English name. Especially following Edgar.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Wokechoke

    Edgar Allan Poe was a great writer and also a despicable drunk of a man who died at age 40. You have to drink an enormous amount of booze to kill yourself that fast. I knew one guy who did it by 52 and that looked like it was near to a full time job.

    In the pharmako poeia trilogy by Dale Pendell, which is a phenomenal set of books, he has a list of alcoholic professional writers. It is a very long list.

    https://www.amazon.com/Pharmako-Poeia-Revised-Updated-Herbcraft/dp/1556438052

    , @LatW
    @Wokechoke

    I thought he was mostly English with some Irish (but I may be wrong), and, of course, Edgar is an English name. That was the name of one of the first kings (and means the "rich spear").

  123. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    It’s funny how these oddballs from the East say so and so was Irish or whatever.


    Poe is very English name. Especially following Edgar.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    Edgar Allan Poe was a great writer and also a despicable drunk of a man who died at age 40. You have to drink an enormous amount of booze to kill yourself that fast. I knew one guy who did it by 52 and that looked like it was near to a full time job.

    In the pharmako poeia trilogy by Dale Pendell, which is a phenomenal set of books, he has a list of alcoholic professional writers. It is a very long list.

    • Thanks: LatW
  124. @A123
    Another good reason to support MAGA: (1)

    Donald Trump has vowed to release individuals imprisoned over the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capitol if he wins the 2024 election in November

    President Trump made the comments in a statement on Truth Social on March 11, noting that it would be among one of his first acts upon taking office in the White House.

    The Republican said shutting down the U.S.-Mexico border and increasing oil drilling as part of efforts to make America more energy independent would also be among his first actions as president.

    “My first acts as your next President will be to Close the Border, DRILL, BABY, DRILL, and Free the January 6 Hostages being wrongfully imprisoned!” President Trump said.

    President Trump said during a rally in Texas in 2022 that he would consider pardoning those convicted of their involvement in the Jan. 6 breach, noting that his administration would treat them “fairly.”

    “If it requires pardons, we will give them pardons, because they are being treated so unfairly,” he said at the time.

    Last year, President Trump told a town hall hosted by CNN at Saint Anselm College in New Hampshire that he was inclined to pardon a “large portion” of those charged with crimes relating to the breach.

     

    J6 Reparations has a nice ring to it. How much federal money should go to compensating those kidnapped by Not-The-President Biden's illegitimate regime?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-vows-free-jan-6-hostages-first-act-president

    Replies: @John Johnson

    J6 Reparations has a nice ring to it. How much federal money should go to compensating those kidnapped by Not-The-President Biden’s illegitimate regime?

    What about the MAGA peaceful protestors that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    If a Black protestor beat on a White cop with a hockey stick at a BLM riot would you support a pardon for him?

    #NewCandidatesPlease

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    If a Black protestor beat on a White cop with a hockey stick at a BLM riot would you support a pardon for him?

     

    A sufficiently leftist and Woke US President could at least commute their sentence by arguing that "systemic racism made them do it". I'm serious, and such a US presidential act would be an extremely massive travesty and insult directed against the rule-of-law here in the US.
    , @A123
    @John Johnson

    😆 ROTFMAO 😂

    Let me fix that for you:

    What about the violent FBI fake "protestors" that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    Of course not. Anti-MAGA deep state operatives should not get a pardon. The FBI should be investigated and those agents who intentionally setup peaceful protesters should go to prison. The capitol officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt should be tried and receive the death penalty.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  125. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    the soldiers are not willing to die
     
    The Ukrainians have plenty of manpower and NATO is a huge coalition. They'd find more than enough men between both of them.

    If there is a war, most of Europe would be attacked by missiles: cities, infrastructure, bases
     
    Standoff weapons have shown to have limited value in a major war like this. It's still about conquering territory, trench by trench, village by village. Russian missiles falling on Western European cities would surely weaken the resolve of the population, who barely know or care about what's going on, but by that point it would quickly escalate to nukes. Russia has no other way of stopping a NATO retaliation and they've actually said as much. I think it was Putin himself who acknowledged the force disparity.

    In the midst of this madness, the only positive thing I see is that now that the Haley witch is out, no one likely to become US president is going to join Macron and (officially) send US troops to Ukraine to fight the Russians. But the Europeans could escalate to a point of no return by themselves. I remember the fear of nuclear war in the 80s perfectly well, when hundreds of thousands would demonstrate against the Pershing missiles. That fear is totally gone, no one cares anymore.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Beckow

    There is a simple solution which is for NATO countries to loan Ukraine money so they can buy mercenaries on the market.

    Russia is hiring Cubans and Nepalis so they really can’t complain.

  126. @John Johnson
    @A123

    J6 Reparations has a nice ring to it. How much federal money should go to compensating those kidnapped by Not-The-President Biden’s illegitimate regime?

    What about the MAGA peaceful protestors that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    If a Black protestor beat on a White cop with a hockey stick at a BLM riot would you support a pardon for him?

    #NewCandidatesPlease

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @A123

    If a Black protestor beat on a White cop with a hockey stick at a BLM riot would you support a pardon for him?

    A sufficiently leftist and Woke US President could at least commute their sentence by arguing that “systemic racism made them do it”. I’m serious, and such a US presidential act would be an extremely massive travesty and insult directed against the rule-of-law here in the US.

  127. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    the soldiers are not willing to die
     
    The Ukrainians have plenty of manpower and NATO is a huge coalition. They'd find more than enough men between both of them.

    If there is a war, most of Europe would be attacked by missiles: cities, infrastructure, bases
     
    Standoff weapons have shown to have limited value in a major war like this. It's still about conquering territory, trench by trench, village by village. Russian missiles falling on Western European cities would surely weaken the resolve of the population, who barely know or care about what's going on, but by that point it would quickly escalate to nukes. Russia has no other way of stopping a NATO retaliation and they've actually said as much. I think it was Putin himself who acknowledged the force disparity.

    In the midst of this madness, the only positive thing I see is that now that the Haley witch is out, no one likely to become US president is going to join Macron and (officially) send US troops to Ukraine to fight the Russians. But the Europeans could escalate to a point of no return by themselves. I remember the fear of nuclear war in the 80s perfectly well, when hundreds of thousands would demonstrate against the Pershing missiles. That fear is totally gone, no one cares anymore.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Beckow

    …Ukrainians have plenty of manpower

    Not enough to defeat Russia. The additional soldiers would have to come from Europe – and be willing to die in large numbers, a few hundred thousand Euro troops. Europe doesn’t have them and US is not coming.

    Standoff weapons have shown to have limited value in a major war like this. It’s still about conquering territory, trench by trench, village by village.

    Not if it is Nato vs. Russia, it would be about remote destruction and quickly go nuclear. My point is that Russia can’t be defeated in a conventional war, they have regional dominance and more soldiers. In a nuclear war there is no winning or losing. So why do Kiev-Nato insist on escalating the war? It is a losing strategy.

    The disparity in power is on a global level – in the area of the actual war Russia has substantial dominance and that can’t be changed unless Europe goes back to WW2 mentality and fights willing to lose large number of men. And the destruction.

  128. My point is that Russia can’t be defeated in a conventional war, they have regional dominance and more soldiers.

    If Russia has so many soldiers then why are they using Cubans?

    In the cell phone video you can see that most of the Cubans are Black.

    It’s Blacks that have the most to gain by leaving Cuba. The Hispanic Cubans treat them like a subclass even though it is supposed to be a classless Marxist state. A lot of the raft Cubans are actually Black.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    If Russia has so many soldiers then why are they using Cubans?
     
    If Ukraine has so many soldiers then why are they using Colombians and Poles?

    Those are irrelevant questions. You specialize in minutia that has nothing to do with what is going on - Ukraine is slowly losing the war in spite of 100% Nato support. That also means that Nato is losing. This is not good, this is very bad, that's why Macron is going ballistic.

    If you know what to do about it, how to end the madness, let us know. But escalating won't do it and offering talks now might not do it either. This was the dumbest neo-con-Nato initiative in decades and they did some real doozies - all were eventually costly losses. No wonder they sent Nuland packing, but it is probably too late.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    There’s a couple of hundred Cubans in the Russian forces.

    That’s probably similar to the historical pick up since Castro anyway. Probably far fewer than during the Cold War though.

    Cubans often showed up in the Eastern Bloc.

  129. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    It’s funny how these oddballs from the East say so and so was Irish or whatever.


    Poe is very English name. Especially following Edgar.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    I thought he was mostly English with some Irish (but I may be wrong), and, of course, Edgar is an English name. That was the name of one of the first kings (and means the “rich spear”).

  130. @songbird
    @LatW


    It shows that he’s Irish
     
    Would guess that his family probably did not admix much, but who knows for sure? Likely untestable.

    or rather, have a literary gift).
     
    Ireland's most famous writers were almost all Prots. (And not very Irish for the most part, Joyce being the exception.)

    I myself would put it down to class. The natives were just about entirely dispossessed of their land by Swift's time. One of Ireland's most famous writers was actually the landlord of a branch of my family.

    I myself enjoyed the books written by the Aran Islanders, but they'd probably be a niche interest for most people. Of course, there are many American writers who had some Irish descent, but I would rather not be associated with Flannery O'Connor. I feel like I might like Margaret Mitchell, as I have heard a reactionary praise her, but I have never read her. And,of course, there are many others. (Ex: the neocon Tom Clancy)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @LatW

    What about Oscar Wilde? Oh, you probably hate him… too decadent. 🙂 lol

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    What about Oscar Wilde? Oh, you probably hate him… too decadent.
     
    Naturally.

    Haven't read much Wilde, but I would put him into the anthropological category. Like reading, the Picture of Dorian Gray, its obvious that one character is vicariously expressing his hatred of women. For me, it's enough of a vibe, to realize that one wouldn't want various gays like Varadkar, Macron, and Trudeau in power. (I.e. if they hate women, how can they feel about the family or children? We just had the first guy trying to deconstruct it totally in Ireland)

    My favorite ethnic Irish writer must be AC Doyle. He was heavily influenced by Poe. Doyle was probably a little too woke for comfort. He put Holmes in drag disguise at least once, and he did a story about miscegenation. Then there is the one where he made Gypsies a red herring. OTOH, he did once write a story with a short Andamanese (they are short, though technically above Pygmy threshold.)

    But he was superior to any of his imitators. And I think there was a bit of physiognomy in it, though it would have been better, if he inserted more.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

  131. @John Johnson
    My point is that Russia can’t be defeated in a conventional war, they have regional dominance and more soldiers.

    If Russia has so many soldiers then why are they using Cubans?

    https://youtu.be/uHkbFs4WEGs?t=127

    In the cell phone video you can see that most of the Cubans are Black.

    It's Blacks that have the most to gain by leaving Cuba. The Hispanic Cubans treat them like a subclass even though it is supposed to be a classless Marxist state. A lot of the raft Cubans are actually Black.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    If Russia has so many soldiers then why are they using Cubans?

    If Ukraine has so many soldiers then why are they using Colombians and Poles?

    Those are irrelevant questions. You specialize in minutia that has nothing to do with what is going on – Ukraine is slowly losing the war in spite of 100% Nato support. That also means that Nato is losing. This is not good, this is very bad, that’s why Macron is going ballistic.

    If you know what to do about it, how to end the madness, let us know. But escalating won’t do it and offering talks now might not do it either. This was the dumbest neo-con-Nato initiative in decades and they did some real doozies – all were eventually costly losses. No wonder they sent Nuland packing, but it is probably too late.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    If Russia has so many soldiers then why are they using Cubans?
     
    If Ukraine has so many soldiers then why are they using Colombians and Poles?

    I've never said Ukraine has plenty of soldiers. In fact I just stated that the NATO countries should loan Ukraine money so they can buy mercenaries on the market. You really have no concept of intellectual honesty.

    You specialize in minutia that has nothing to do with what is going on

    Manpower is not minutia. I posed a fair question that obviously troubles you. If Russia has so many men then why are they using 2 week trained Cubans and Nepalese? It makes me wonder if their reserves are truly as vast as many believe. If the answer is for PR reasons then that also raises questions.

    Ukraine is slowly losing the war in spite of 100% Nato support.

    They don't have 100% NATO support. They don't even have access to second gen aircraft. F16s are from the 80s and they don't have even 10% of the supply. The Bradleys were already decommissioned. It's truly sad as to how much the US parties are hoarders when it comes to military equipment. We don't need any Bradleys or Strikers. Send them all.

    If you know what to do about it, how to end the madness, let us know.

    Putin returns to their 2021 borders and offers citizenship and $100k to any ethnic Russian that wants to leave. Most of the LPR/DPR militia men are dead so it would cost far less than the war. Russia has abandoned cities that could be filled with ethnic Russians. But it should be noted that most ethnic Russians in Ukraine voted for Zelensky and Russia is occupying two Oblasts that never had separatists.
  132. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    or the Ukies are really not that smart.
     
    Smarter Ukies have run away already, some to Russia, some to Europe. I am glad that the sons of both my cousins fall into this category. Half-smart Ukies either hide from the draft in various ways or give bribes to the right people to avoid being drafted. Ukies that end up in their army are the dumbest of the dumb. Russia is actually culling the dumbest, thereby increasing average intelligence of whatever population remains in Ukraine.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    increasing average intelligence of whatever population remains in Ukraine.

    They are not doing it fast enough…even dumbos usually have minimal self-preservation and a nose for when someone is playing them. The Ukies seem to lack all of it – one huge cosmic evolutionary failure. It is right there with the Indios who sold Manhattan for a few shiny beads…the Ukies got cookies instead and lofty promises.

    And they invaded Russia, this is beyond crazy…

  133. Question for Anatoly Karlin:

    Having the West have mass immigration from Russia would be good primarily due to the brain drain effect that it has, right? If so, then I would certainly agree with this.

    It nevertheless is quite interesting that you have previously posted this a while back, though:

    Presumably arguing that Russians don’t deserve to travel to Europe because not enough of them have protested against the Russian war against Ukraine (and ignoring the fact that the Russians who did protest sometimes got arrested and subsequently got sent to fight in combat on the front lines as punishment for their insolence and disobedience).

  134. What part of Ukraine can the future Ukraine not afford to lose?

    I would say its Odessa…without Odessa Ukraine is a state in name only.

    Russia can use this to their advantage to fast forward the Ukraine collapse.

    A feign buildup in Zaporizhzhia by Russia will cause panic in Ukraine and a movement of a vast number of troops to Odessa, this will bottle up these troops in Odessa thus thinning the lines elsewhere to be brushed aside easily by Russia and increasing the territory gains for Russia.

    Don’t allow anytime for the U.S to formulate solutions and to draw out the war…quicker it ends the better for all.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr_Chow_Mein


    What part of Ukraine can the future Ukraine not afford to lose?

    I would say its Odessa…without Odessa Ukraine is a state in name only.
     

    It would just use Polish or Romanian ports. Do you think landlocked countries like Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Kazakhstan (Caspian Sea doesn’t count), Uzbekistan, Serbia, Czech Republic are states in name only?

    Not that Russia could take Odesa, a city of over 1 million that is well fortified and prepared. And to reach it, the Russians would have to recapture Kherson and then conquer well fortified Mykolaiv (population 470,000).

    By Russian estimates, they lost 16,000 taking well-fortified Avdiivka (population 31,000). Taking large cities such as Kharkiv or Odesa would require World War II level sacrifices by Russia - 10,000s of people per city. The Russian people aren’t interested in making sacrifices of such magnitude.

    Most likely result will be a stalemate, the question is where. If Russia does really well (due to supply issues for the Ukrainian military) it will slowly take the rest of Donbas, maybe even reach the outskirts of the city of Zaporizhia (population 750,000 - another city too big for Russia to conquer). Or if Ukrainians are supplied adequately, the Russians will take less or even lose some minimal ground here and there. If Ukrainians are supplied very well they may even break through.

    The sad reality is that 10,000s more will die on each side until the Russians get tired enough to stop the invasion and accept that they will not be able to conquer/occupy/control Ukraine, and the Ukrainians get tired enough to accept the permanent nature of the losses of certain territories and accept that Crimea and other areas won’t be coming back. Neither side is there yet; each side still hopes for more and until both come to the conclusions I described, the war will continue.

    Replies: @QCIC

  135. This further exemplifies the importance from a national interest perspective of having immigration policies that not only continue attracting foreign cognitive elites into one’s country, but also allow countries to retain their existing cognitive elites. Full-on open borders will make doing both of these things much more difficult for the developed countries of the world. Though significantly increasing immigration and having a large part (but not all of it) be cognitive elites could be very beneficial in certain regards.

  136. @AnonfromTN
    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time. Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things, while failing to enter the RF territory. Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes. The most interesting thing is that quite a few Western media outlets swallowed those fakes line, hook, and sinker, publishing them as if these were true. You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Mikhail

    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time

    These were Russian turncoats armed by Ukrainians (again).

    Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things

    Russia does the same most days in various places. Avdiivka was an exception.

    Russia has Ben counter offensing all winter. What do you think that meant, given the very small and slow territorial gains during this time?

    Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes

    Gullible AnoninTN believes all the grotesque videos (including those shared by angry Russians) were computer generated.

    You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.

    Ironically, very applicable to you, the mirror image of the most optimistic anti-Russian Westerner.

    • LOL: Mikhail
  137. @AnonfromTN
    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time. Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things, while failing to enter the RF territory. Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes. The most interesting thing is that quite a few Western media outlets swallowed those fakes line, hook, and sinker, publishing them as if these were true. You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Mikhail

    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time. Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things, while failing to enter the RF territory. Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes. The most interesting thing is that quite a few Western media outlets swallowed those fakes line, hook, and sinker, publishing them as if these were true. You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.

    Something that has been previously evident in numerous instances. The selectivity of the “fact check”.

    Gotta laugh at the BS about how this pro-Kiev regime operation consists of disaffected Russians. Wouldn’t surprise to find a svido contingent in that group along with some useful idiot Russians to their cause. Like the majority of Russians will embrace them.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    It' not about how popular nor potent the current Ukrainian incursions are, but that these are definite signs of Russia's permeability at its own borders. Nobody could have imagined these sorts of responses by Ukraine during the first year of the war. It leaves the door open for greater and more potent Ukrainian incursions into Russian territory into the future.

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/03/06/9d627d30e6f665d2d91ccae714f0b87d.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp
    Beware The Ides of March!
    Serhiy Kolyada on what many hope will be the outcome of the forthcoming pseudo-election In Rasszia

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail

    Looked at the Russian polls (several polls by different companies). Reminder: in the RF there are four presidential candidates: Putin, Kharitonov (communists), Slutsky (Zhirinovsky’s party), and Davankov (party “New people”). I saw Russian elections poster with candidates’ faces and their self-description. Putin’s self-description is three lines, the others used >20 lines each.

    All Russian experts agree that the fight is essentially for the second place, as the first place is clear. All polls predict 78-82% support for Putin, with similar (5-7%) support for each of the others. In fact, ~20% increase of Putin’s support should be credited to the idiotic policies of the West and its Ukie puppets. His support was in the low sixties several years ago (Western “democratic” politicians can only dream of this level of support). The majority thinks that commies will get the second place and Zhiric’s party the third. We’ll see: March 17th is the last day of elections (early online voting started about a week ago; early in-person voting starts on the 15th).

    Replies: @sudden death, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Philip Owen

  138. @John Johnson
    My point is that Russia can’t be defeated in a conventional war, they have regional dominance and more soldiers.

    If Russia has so many soldiers then why are they using Cubans?

    https://youtu.be/uHkbFs4WEGs?t=127

    In the cell phone video you can see that most of the Cubans are Black.

    It's Blacks that have the most to gain by leaving Cuba. The Hispanic Cubans treat them like a subclass even though it is supposed to be a classless Marxist state. A lot of the raft Cubans are actually Black.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    There’s a couple of hundred Cubans in the Russian forces.

    That’s probably similar to the historical pick up since Castro anyway. Probably far fewer than during the Cold War though.

    Cubans often showed up in the Eastern Bloc.

  139. @John Johnson
    @A123

    J6 Reparations has a nice ring to it. How much federal money should go to compensating those kidnapped by Not-The-President Biden’s illegitimate regime?

    What about the MAGA peaceful protestors that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    If a Black protestor beat on a White cop with a hockey stick at a BLM riot would you support a pardon for him?

    #NewCandidatesPlease

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @A123

    😆 ROTFMAO 😂

    Let me fix that for you:

    What about the violent FBI fake “protestors” that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    Of course not. Anti-MAGA deep state operatives should not get a pardon. The FBI should be investigated and those agents who intentionally setup peaceful protesters should go to prison. The capitol officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt should be tried and receive the death penalty.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Let me fix that for you:

    What about the violent FBI fake “protestors” that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    Another proud MAGA reality denier.

    It was a former marine who attacked police officers with a hockey stick:
    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-marine-who-assaulted-officers-with-trump-2020-flag-on-a-hockey-stick-on-jan-6-gets-prison-time/

    He is a known MAGA supporter from Michigan who argued that his prison conditions were too harsh.

    So he should get a pardon?

    Replies: @A123

  140. @LatW
    @songbird

    What about Oscar Wilde? Oh, you probably hate him... too decadent. :) lol

    Replies: @songbird

    What about Oscar Wilde? Oh, you probably hate him… too decadent.

    Naturally.

    Haven’t read much Wilde, but I would put him into the anthropological category. Like reading, the Picture of Dorian Gray, its obvious that one character is vicariously expressing his hatred of women. For me, it’s enough of a vibe, to realize that one wouldn’t want various gays like Varadkar, Macron, and Trudeau in power. (I.e. if they hate women, how can they feel about the family or children? We just had the first guy trying to deconstruct it totally in Ireland)

    My favorite ethnic Irish writer must be AC Doyle. He was heavily influenced by Poe. Doyle was probably a little too woke for comfort. He put Holmes in drag disguise at least once, and he did a story about miscegenation. Then there is the one where he made Gypsies a red herring. OTOH, he did once write a story with a short Andamanese (they are short, though technically above Pygmy threshold.)

    But he was superior to any of his imitators. And I think there was a bit of physiognomy in it, though it would have been better, if he inserted more.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    If you omit Ulysses and Finnegans Wake James Joyce was a very good writer. Those two are unreadable. I have a hack which allows you to do it but it's only worth it if you are an obsessive reader who wants to hoard the complete set.

    Oscar Wilde was ridiculous. Have you read the Jason Horsley stuff about his brother Sebastian, a modern edition of Wilde? I enjoyed some of it.

    Many writers, for example Robert Anton Wilson, consider Ulysses and Finnegans Wake to be great achievements. Like a Nobel prize or an olympics gold medal level thing. This is a writers' disease like alcoholism. Robert Anton Wilson also was an excellent writer and he identified as Irish descended. Anybody who hasn't read Cosmic Trigger and Illuminatus ought to.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    My favorite ethnic Irish writer must be AC Doyle. He was heavily influenced by Poe.
     
    Just a few days ago, I happened to watch this interesting documentary about the occult leanings and influences that supposedly made a a deep impression on AC Doyle's writing style evident throughout his Sherlock Holmes detective tales. I don't know just how much of this is very true, not really knowing much about his background. I thought that you might enjoy watching it. I watched it on Prime, but notice that it has been since removed (a message from the Almighty?). Sherlock Holmes: The Occult World of Arthur Conan Doyle. It's quite possible that you can watch it in your area.

    Replies: @songbird

  141. Never heard of this:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Amazons

    I wonder if the contemporary US would have been considered more puritanical.

  142. @songbird
    @LatW


    What about Oscar Wilde? Oh, you probably hate him… too decadent.
     
    Naturally.

    Haven't read much Wilde, but I would put him into the anthropological category. Like reading, the Picture of Dorian Gray, its obvious that one character is vicariously expressing his hatred of women. For me, it's enough of a vibe, to realize that one wouldn't want various gays like Varadkar, Macron, and Trudeau in power. (I.e. if they hate women, how can they feel about the family or children? We just had the first guy trying to deconstruct it totally in Ireland)

    My favorite ethnic Irish writer must be AC Doyle. He was heavily influenced by Poe. Doyle was probably a little too woke for comfort. He put Holmes in drag disguise at least once, and he did a story about miscegenation. Then there is the one where he made Gypsies a red herring. OTOH, he did once write a story with a short Andamanese (they are short, though technically above Pygmy threshold.)

    But he was superior to any of his imitators. And I think there was a bit of physiognomy in it, though it would have been better, if he inserted more.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    If you omit Ulysses and Finnegans Wake James Joyce was a very good writer. Those two are unreadable. I have a hack which allows you to do it but it’s only worth it if you are an obsessive reader who wants to hoard the complete set.

    Oscar Wilde was ridiculous. Have you read the Jason Horsley stuff about his brother Sebastian, a modern edition of Wilde? I enjoyed some of it.

    Many writers, for example Robert Anton Wilson, consider Ulysses and Finnegans Wake to be great achievements. Like a Nobel prize or an olympics gold medal level thing. This is a writers’ disease like alcoholism. Robert Anton Wilson also was an excellent writer and he identified as Irish descended. Anybody who hasn’t read Cosmic Trigger and Illuminatus ought to.

    • Thanks: songbird
  143. Even biting the tail of an orca is very dangerous for an orca:

    Kandu V was a dominant female Icelandic orca, caught in 1977 and kept at SeaWorld San Diego in California. On August 21, 1989, she attempted to rake a 24-year-old newcomer orca, Corky II, during a live show. She struck Corky behind her dorsal fin,[80] the resulting impact fracturing Kandu’s upper jaw and severing major arteries. The crowd was quickly ushered out, and after a 45-minute hemorrhage, Kandu V died. Her daughter, Orkid, was 11 months old at the time of the accident

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_captive_orcas#Kandu_V

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird

    I watched Blackfish, and Orkid was featured there, I think either Orkid or another whale related to her was involved in one of the incidents. They are supposed to be in their native pod with their mothers, it's really sad how they separate them. Orkid might still be alive.

    Replies: @songbird

  144. AP says:
    @Mr_Chow_Mein
    What part of Ukraine can the future Ukraine not afford to lose?

    I would say its Odessa...without Odessa Ukraine is a state in name only.

    Russia can use this to their advantage to fast forward the Ukraine collapse.

    A feign buildup in Zaporizhzhia by Russia will cause panic in Ukraine and a movement of a vast number of troops to Odessa, this will bottle up these troops in Odessa thus thinning the lines elsewhere to be brushed aside easily by Russia and increasing the territory gains for Russia.

    Don't allow anytime for the U.S to formulate solutions and to draw out the war...quicker it ends the better for all.

    Replies: @AP

    What part of Ukraine can the future Ukraine not afford to lose?

    I would say its Odessa…without Odessa Ukraine is a state in name only.

    It would just use Polish or Romanian ports. Do you think landlocked countries like Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Kazakhstan (Caspian Sea doesn’t count), Uzbekistan, Serbia, Czech Republic are states in name only?

    Not that Russia could take Odesa, a city of over 1 million that is well fortified and prepared. And to reach it, the Russians would have to recapture Kherson and then conquer well fortified Mykolaiv (population 470,000).

    By Russian estimates, they lost 16,000 taking well-fortified Avdiivka (population 31,000). Taking large cities such as Kharkiv or Odesa would require World War II level sacrifices by Russia – 10,000s of people per city. The Russian people aren’t interested in making sacrifices of such magnitude.

    Most likely result will be a stalemate, the question is where. If Russia does really well (due to supply issues for the Ukrainian military) it will slowly take the rest of Donbas, maybe even reach the outskirts of the city of Zaporizhia (population 750,000 – another city too big for Russia to conquer). Or if Ukrainians are supplied adequately, the Russians will take less or even lose some minimal ground here and there. If Ukrainians are supplied very well they may even break through.

    The sad reality is that 10,000s more will die on each side until the Russians get tired enough to stop the invasion and accept that they will not be able to conquer/occupy/control Ukraine, and the Ukrainians get tired enough to accept the permanent nature of the losses of certain territories and accept that Crimea and other areas won’t be coming back. Neither side is there yet; each side still hopes for more and until both come to the conclusions I described, the war will continue.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    Russia KNOWS that NATO and the West will place longer range missiles and airbases in Eastern Ukraine, probably also in Finland and the Baltics if those countries are stupid enough to allow it. Politically they can pretend they do not know this and back down. This might postpone a possible WW3 but at the same time make it more likely. This could be a fair trade off for Russian readiness. It also buys time to collapse the Western dollar system if that becomes inevitable. The collapse of the Western system might make WW3 more likely so it is a complex problem. I don't think either Russia or China wants to collapse the dollar system, but it is a geopolitical target. The problem is that destroying it creates massive pain for everyone.

    I imagine Russia is building up a solid combat force across the entire country. A goal might be to have at least 25% hardened combat veterans in both the officer and enlisted ranks. The slow grind in Ukraine makes this possible. To do it right they need more naval action and air-to-air combat.

    Kaliningrad seems like a delicate pice of the puzzle. I suspect NATO is planning massive attacks on the enclave 24/7. Finland in or out of NATO might be a bargaining chip as a possible trade for the enclave.

  145. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    or the Ukies are really not that smart.
     
    Smarter Ukies have run away already, some to Russia, some to Europe. I am glad that the sons of both my cousins fall into this category. Half-smart Ukies either hide from the draft in various ways or give bribes to the right people to avoid being drafted. Ukies that end up in their army are the dumbest of the dumb. Russia is actually culling the dumbest, thereby increasing average intelligence of whatever population remains in Ukraine.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    Ukies that end up in their army are the dumbest of the dumb.

    An those within the Russian army are supposedly the smartest of the smart?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack


    An those within the Russian army are supposedly the smartest of the smart?
     
    With the exception of Donbass fighters, who fight out of burning hatred of Ukies, the great majority of Russian military consists of contract personnel. These people are to a large extent after the money. Many hope to earn several million rubles to buy an apartment, or at least to put up a sizeable down-payment. The stakes were raised with special payments for destroying Leopard, Challenger, and Abrams tanks. The biggest prize is Abrams, up to 10 million rubles. I guess that's why every Abrams showing up on the front lines is promptly destroyed.

    Russian soldiers recently recorded a mocking video asking Alzheimer-in-Chief to send more Abrams tanks: a lot of people need apartments. They even promised the Veggie 10% kickback.

    Replies: @Jazman

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack

    A vignette about Ukie “mobilization”.

    Men risk a lot to run away across the Western border. Many are caught by Ukie border patrol: 4,855 from September 2023 through February 2024. This number includes 1,397 caught by 31st border detachment (Chernovtsy), 1,320 by 27th border detachment (Mukachevo), and 1,008 by the 2nd border detachment (Podolsk). Other border patrol detachment caught fewer “patriots”.

    Replies: @AP

  146. @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN


    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time. Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things, while failing to enter the RF territory. Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes. The most interesting thing is that quite a few Western media outlets swallowed those fakes line, hook, and sinker, publishing them as if these were true. You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.
     
    Something that has been previously evident in numerous instances. The selectivity of the "fact check".

    Gotta laugh at the BS about how this pro-Kiev regime operation consists of disaffected Russians. Wouldn't surprise to find a svido contingent in that group along with some useful idiot Russians to their cause. Like the majority of Russians will embrace them.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN

    It’ not about how popular nor potent the current Ukrainian incursions are, but that these are definite signs of Russia’s permeability at its own borders. Nobody could have imagined these sorts of responses by Ukraine during the first year of the war. It leaves the door open for greater and more potent Ukrainian incursions into Russian territory into the future.


    Beware The Ides of March!
    Serhiy Kolyada on what many hope will be the outcome of the forthcoming pseudo-election In Rasszia

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Keep dreaming.

  147. Especially for kremlinstoogeA123 who is a huge superhero fan:


    Wonder Ukraine Keeps Amazing Her Partners
    Serhiy Kolyada on the beauty of free flight when the sky is open.

  148. @AP
    @Mr_Chow_Mein


    What part of Ukraine can the future Ukraine not afford to lose?

    I would say its Odessa…without Odessa Ukraine is a state in name only.
     

    It would just use Polish or Romanian ports. Do you think landlocked countries like Austria, Slovakia, Hungary, Kazakhstan (Caspian Sea doesn’t count), Uzbekistan, Serbia, Czech Republic are states in name only?

    Not that Russia could take Odesa, a city of over 1 million that is well fortified and prepared. And to reach it, the Russians would have to recapture Kherson and then conquer well fortified Mykolaiv (population 470,000).

    By Russian estimates, they lost 16,000 taking well-fortified Avdiivka (population 31,000). Taking large cities such as Kharkiv or Odesa would require World War II level sacrifices by Russia - 10,000s of people per city. The Russian people aren’t interested in making sacrifices of such magnitude.

    Most likely result will be a stalemate, the question is where. If Russia does really well (due to supply issues for the Ukrainian military) it will slowly take the rest of Donbas, maybe even reach the outskirts of the city of Zaporizhia (population 750,000 - another city too big for Russia to conquer). Or if Ukrainians are supplied adequately, the Russians will take less or even lose some minimal ground here and there. If Ukrainians are supplied very well they may even break through.

    The sad reality is that 10,000s more will die on each side until the Russians get tired enough to stop the invasion and accept that they will not be able to conquer/occupy/control Ukraine, and the Ukrainians get tired enough to accept the permanent nature of the losses of certain territories and accept that Crimea and other areas won’t be coming back. Neither side is there yet; each side still hopes for more and until both come to the conclusions I described, the war will continue.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Russia KNOWS that NATO and the West will place longer range missiles and airbases in Eastern Ukraine, probably also in Finland and the Baltics if those countries are stupid enough to allow it. Politically they can pretend they do not know this and back down. This might postpone a possible WW3 but at the same time make it more likely. This could be a fair trade off for Russian readiness. It also buys time to collapse the Western dollar system if that becomes inevitable. The collapse of the Western system might make WW3 more likely so it is a complex problem. I don’t think either Russia or China wants to collapse the dollar system, but it is a geopolitical target. The problem is that destroying it creates massive pain for everyone.

    I imagine Russia is building up a solid combat force across the entire country. A goal might be to have at least 25% hardened combat veterans in both the officer and enlisted ranks. The slow grind in Ukraine makes this possible. To do it right they need more naval action and air-to-air combat.

    Kaliningrad seems like a delicate pice of the puzzle. I suspect NATO is planning massive attacks on the enclave 24/7. Finland in or out of NATO might be a bargaining chip as a possible trade for the enclave.

  149. For all of the rest of you:


    Rasszist Warplanes Continue Being Knocked Out of the Skies
    Serhiy Kolyada on the transformation of Rasszia’s ‘mighty’ airforce into kamikaze squadrons.

    How true, how true…

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Keep dreaming.

  150. Would parts of the Carib be majority Indian today, if Gandhi hadn’t campaigned against indentured labor?

  151. @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN


    Ukies tried again to enter Belgorod and Kursk regions, using heavy armor this time. Overall, Ukies lost more than 100 personnel, five tanks, three Bradleys, and other things, while failing to enter the RF territory. Yet Ukie (or their master’s) propaganda prepared a number of fake videos of their successes. The most interesting thing is that quite a few Western media outlets swallowed those fakes line, hook, and sinker, publishing them as if these were true. You don’t need to fool those who fool themselves.
     
    Something that has been previously evident in numerous instances. The selectivity of the "fact check".

    Gotta laugh at the BS about how this pro-Kiev regime operation consists of disaffected Russians. Wouldn't surprise to find a svido contingent in that group along with some useful idiot Russians to their cause. Like the majority of Russians will embrace them.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN

    Looked at the Russian polls (several polls by different companies). Reminder: in the RF there are four presidential candidates: Putin, Kharitonov (communists), Slutsky (Zhirinovsky’s party), and Davankov (party “New people”). I saw Russian elections poster with candidates’ faces and their self-description. Putin’s self-description is three lines, the others used >20 lines each.

    All Russian experts agree that the fight is essentially for the second place, as the first place is clear. All polls predict 78-82% support for Putin, with similar (5-7%) support for each of the others. In fact, ~20% increase of Putin’s support should be credited to the idiotic policies of the West and its Ukie puppets. His support was in the low sixties several years ago (Western “democratic” politicians can only dream of this level of support). The majority thinks that commies will get the second place and Zhiric’s party the third. We’ll see: March 17th is the last day of elections (early online voting started about a week ago; early in-person voting starts on the 15th).

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @AnonfromTN

    So popular that he even was afraid to let relatively noname, but the only non warring candidate to participate in election;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Do you know the poll numbers by demographic? Are the commies more popular with the old geezers or anything like that?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Philip Owen
    @AnonfromTN

    I thnk the fight is for 3rd. The communists are still organized with members and a platform. While I was surprised at the youthfulness and quality of the LDPR politicians who shared power with UR for a while in Saratov province, (I met them face to face) with Z they have no coherency. The youthful and competent cadres all left for jobs in Moscow when UR returned to full power.

  152. @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    Ukies that end up in their army are the dumbest of the dumb.
     
    An those within the Russian army are supposedly the smartest of the smart?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AnonfromTN

    An those within the Russian army are supposedly the smartest of the smart?

    With the exception of Donbass fighters, who fight out of burning hatred of Ukies, the great majority of Russian military consists of contract personnel. These people are to a large extent after the money. Many hope to earn several million rubles to buy an apartment, or at least to put up a sizeable down-payment. The stakes were raised with special payments for destroying Leopard, Challenger, and Abrams tanks. The biggest prize is Abrams, up to 10 million rubles. I guess that’s why every Abrams showing up on the front lines is promptly destroyed.

    Russian soldiers recently recorded a mocking video asking Alzheimer-in-Chief to send more Abrams tanks: a lot of people need apartments. They even promised the Veggie 10% kickback.

    • Replies: @Jazman
    @AnonfromTN

    Lol true for Abrams they are special target and moment they show up something hit them , last one burned to the ground thanks to lot of aluminum parts , now they blame Ukies for not using them properly

  153. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail

    Looked at the Russian polls (several polls by different companies). Reminder: in the RF there are four presidential candidates: Putin, Kharitonov (communists), Slutsky (Zhirinovsky’s party), and Davankov (party “New people”). I saw Russian elections poster with candidates’ faces and their self-description. Putin’s self-description is three lines, the others used >20 lines each.

    All Russian experts agree that the fight is essentially for the second place, as the first place is clear. All polls predict 78-82% support for Putin, with similar (5-7%) support for each of the others. In fact, ~20% increase of Putin’s support should be credited to the idiotic policies of the West and its Ukie puppets. His support was in the low sixties several years ago (Western “democratic” politicians can only dream of this level of support). The majority thinks that commies will get the second place and Zhiric’s party the third. We’ll see: March 17th is the last day of elections (early online voting started about a week ago; early in-person voting starts on the 15th).

    Replies: @sudden death, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Philip Owen

    So popular that he even was afraid to let relatively noname, but the only non warring candidate to participate in election;)

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @sudden death


    So popular that he even was afraid to let relatively noname, but the only non warring candidate to participate in election;)
     
    That wannabe candidate was not smart enough to collect sufficient number of non-fake signatures in his support. That disqualifies him from running a McDonalds, let alone the country. Not to mention that the support of well-known mega-thief and murderer Khodorkovsky is extremely toxic in Russia today. That pathetic dude did not even have the brains to disguise it.

    My personal experience about two weeks ago. I was on a 5-day tour of lake Baikal. The group, in addition to myself and my wife, included six people from different parts of the RF and a guide from Irkutsk. All seven had no doubt that they will vote for Putin. The sample is too small for statistical significance, but that’s what I have.
  154. @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    Ukies that end up in their army are the dumbest of the dumb.
     
    An those within the Russian army are supposedly the smartest of the smart?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AnonfromTN

    A vignette about Ukie “mobilization”.

    Men risk a lot to run away across the Western border. Many are caught by Ukie border patrol: 4,855 from September 2023 through February 2024. This number includes 1,397 caught by 31st border detachment (Chernovtsy), 1,320 by 27th border detachment (Mukachevo), and 1,008 by the 2nd border detachment (Podolsk). Other border patrol detachment caught fewer “patriots”.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    During World War II, half a million Americans attempted to avoid the draft. During the Vietnam War, over 500,000 were classified as draft offenders and over 200,000 were formally accused. There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.

    Ukraine still hasn’t mobilized under age 27 (they tried to lower the age to 25 but it hasn’t gotten through Parliament).

    Replies: @Beckow

  155. A123 says: • Website

    Both Trump and Not-The-President Biden have clinched enough delegates to lock in their nominations at their respective conventions. Both parties have rules binding delegates for the 1st round, so a surprise is nearly impossible.

    The unhinged #NeverTrump zealot will no doubt, once again, be disappointed that reality has denied his fantasy.

    PEACE 😇

  156. @sudden death
    @AnonfromTN

    So popular that he even was afraid to let relatively noname, but the only non warring candidate to participate in election;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    So popular that he even was afraid to let relatively noname, but the only non warring candidate to participate in election;)

    That wannabe candidate was not smart enough to collect sufficient number of non-fake signatures in his support. That disqualifies him from running a McDonalds, let alone the country. Not to mention that the support of well-known mega-thief and murderer Khodorkovsky is extremely toxic in Russia today. That pathetic dude did not even have the brains to disguise it.

    My personal experience about two weeks ago. I was on a 5-day tour of lake Baikal. The group, in addition to myself and my wife, included six people from different parts of the RF and a guide from Irkutsk. All seven had no doubt that they will vote for Putin. The sample is too small for statistical significance, but that’s what I have.

    • Agree: Mikhail
  157. You need certain demographics just to have a functional zoo, IMO.

    You can either have an insane woman having a staring contest with same silverback everyday, while giving it a toothy smile, or rock-throwing kids. But you can’t have both (multiculture.)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokito_(gorilla)

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    I forgot to mention that Ronald Hutton's dragon show includes the basilisk.

  158. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail

    Looked at the Russian polls (several polls by different companies). Reminder: in the RF there are four presidential candidates: Putin, Kharitonov (communists), Slutsky (Zhirinovsky’s party), and Davankov (party “New people”). I saw Russian elections poster with candidates’ faces and their self-description. Putin’s self-description is three lines, the others used >20 lines each.

    All Russian experts agree that the fight is essentially for the second place, as the first place is clear. All polls predict 78-82% support for Putin, with similar (5-7%) support for each of the others. In fact, ~20% increase of Putin’s support should be credited to the idiotic policies of the West and its Ukie puppets. His support was in the low sixties several years ago (Western “democratic” politicians can only dream of this level of support). The majority thinks that commies will get the second place and Zhiric’s party the third. We’ll see: March 17th is the last day of elections (early online voting started about a week ago; early in-person voting starts on the 15th).

    Replies: @sudden death, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Philip Owen

    Do you know the poll numbers by demographic? Are the commies more popular with the old geezers or anything like that?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Are the commies more popular with the old geezers or anything like that?
     
    That would be my guess. I am not aware of any data, though. Curiously, judging by the social media in Russian, the greatest USSR lowers are old geezers (70+ years old) and youngsters (20-30 years old) who never experienced Soviet reality. People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR. Some things are visible even to a tourist: eateries of all price levels every 200 yards, in Moscow and in downtowns of all provincial capitals, magnificent look and incredible cleanliness of Moscow today (it beats all European capitals hands down: I’m comparing to London, Paris, Madrid, Rome, Berlin, Stockholm, Prague, Budapest, Zagreb, and others), huge expansion of Moscow underground (metro), where the least decorated out of >250 stations would be a gem advertised to tourists anywhere in Europe, stores brimming with all sorts of merchandise, etc. Some signs are subtler: people became a lot more relaxed and spontaneously polite than they used to be in Soviet times, which to me means that they live much better.

    This year for the first time I’ve seen a sign of war in Moscow: navigation works intermittently. Taxi drivers also complain about it, so it’s not only my phone. It used to be more reliable than anywhere else in the world (I’ve been to 30+ countries on all six inhabited continents). I guess they are using interference to confuse possible Ukie drones.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  159. @songbird
    You need certain demographics just to have a functional zoo, IMO.

    You can either have an insane woman having a staring contest with same silverback everyday, while giving it a toothy smile, or rock-throwing kids. But you can't have both (multiculture.)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokito_(gorilla)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I forgot to mention that Ronald Hutton’s dragon show includes the basilisk.

    • Thanks: songbird
  160. IMO, at worst Herbert meant Chani to look like this woman: (i.e. she had red hair)
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Lalla_Salma_of_Morocco

    So it is kind of like when they made Zendaya MJ in Spiderman.

  161. @songbird
    Even biting the tail of an orca is very dangerous for an orca:

    Kandu V was a dominant female Icelandic orca, caught in 1977 and kept at SeaWorld San Diego in California. On August 21, 1989, she attempted to rake a 24-year-old newcomer orca, Corky II, during a live show. She struck Corky behind her dorsal fin,[80] the resulting impact fracturing Kandu's upper jaw and severing major arteries. The crowd was quickly ushered out, and after a 45-minute hemorrhage, Kandu V died. Her daughter, Orkid, was 11 months old at the time of the accident
     
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_captive_orcas#Kandu_V

    Replies: @LatW

    I watched Blackfish, and Orkid was featured there, I think either Orkid or another whale related to her was involved in one of the incidents. They are supposed to be in their native pod with their mothers, it’s really sad how they separate them. Orkid might still be alive.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    Capturing some of them was pretty brutal originally. It is weird to think how different things were only fifty or sixty years ago. Seems like they are susceptible to a lot of diseases in captivity, like mosquito-born illnesses. Perhaps, this could be the source of some of the madness? Though probably much is a natural dominance contest, not geared towards human fragility.

    I sometimes think that whales and dolphins are the only ones with legitimate grievances (or would be if they could have them.)

    Since some of these creatures have potentially been encountering each other for so long, I wonder to what extent they can understand each other's language.
    https://youtu.be/7iFzIMZRsoI?si=5vfgHF3KBVcE1JKb
    BTW, it is surprising how many of these sea beasts seem to have scoliosis. I would have thought that being in the ocean would help prevent spine problems, but it almost seems like the opposite. Maybe, it makes it easier to survive than it would with a land animal.

    Bottlenose seem to interact with different whales. They have been observed sliding down the backs of humpbacks, for fun.

    Though, there are some clips of dolphins or whales on YouTube that I wish I hadn't encountered. Apparently dolphins try to hump women sort of like some dogs. And there are gay humpbacks, which the media promote. (Though perhaps not in the same sense as humans.)

    Replies: @LatW

  162. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    If Russia has so many soldiers then why are they using Cubans?
     
    If Ukraine has so many soldiers then why are they using Colombians and Poles?

    Those are irrelevant questions. You specialize in minutia that has nothing to do with what is going on - Ukraine is slowly losing the war in spite of 100% Nato support. That also means that Nato is losing. This is not good, this is very bad, that's why Macron is going ballistic.

    If you know what to do about it, how to end the madness, let us know. But escalating won't do it and offering talks now might not do it either. This was the dumbest neo-con-Nato initiative in decades and they did some real doozies - all were eventually costly losses. No wonder they sent Nuland packing, but it is probably too late.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    If Russia has so many soldiers then why are they using Cubans?

    If Ukraine has so many soldiers then why are they using Colombians and Poles?

    I’ve never said Ukraine has plenty of soldiers. In fact I just stated that the NATO countries should loan Ukraine money so they can buy mercenaries on the market. You really have no concept of intellectual honesty.

    You specialize in minutia that has nothing to do with what is going on

    Manpower is not minutia. I posed a fair question that obviously troubles you. If Russia has so many men then why are they using 2 week trained Cubans and Nepalese? It makes me wonder if their reserves are truly as vast as many believe. If the answer is for PR reasons then that also raises questions.

    Ukraine is slowly losing the war in spite of 100% Nato support.

    They don’t have 100% NATO support. They don’t even have access to second gen aircraft. F16s are from the 80s and they don’t have even 10% of the supply. The Bradleys were already decommissioned. It’s truly sad as to how much the US parties are hoarders when it comes to military equipment. We don’t need any Bradleys or Strikers. Send them all.

    If you know what to do about it, how to end the madness, let us know.

    Putin returns to their 2021 borders and offers citizenship and $100k to any ethnic Russian that wants to leave. Most of the LPR/DPR militia men are dead so it would cost far less than the war. Russia has abandoned cities that could be filled with ethnic Russians. But it should be noted that most ethnic Russians in Ukraine voted for Zelensky and Russia is occupying two Oblasts that never had separatists.

  163. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Do you know the poll numbers by demographic? Are the commies more popular with the old geezers or anything like that?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Are the commies more popular with the old geezers or anything like that?

    That would be my guess. I am not aware of any data, though. Curiously, judging by the social media in Russian, the greatest USSR lowers are old geezers (70+ years old) and youngsters (20-30 years old) who never experienced Soviet reality. People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR. Some things are visible even to a tourist: eateries of all price levels every 200 yards, in Moscow and in downtowns of all provincial capitals, magnificent look and incredible cleanliness of Moscow today (it beats all European capitals hands down: I’m comparing to London, Paris, Madrid, Rome, Berlin, Stockholm, Prague, Budapest, Zagreb, and others), huge expansion of Moscow underground (metro), where the least decorated out of >250 stations would be a gem advertised to tourists anywhere in Europe, stores brimming with all sorts of merchandise, etc. Some signs are subtler: people became a lot more relaxed and spontaneously polite than they used to be in Soviet times, which to me means that they live much better.

    This year for the first time I’ve seen a sign of war in Moscow: navigation works intermittently. Taxi drivers also complain about it, so it’s not only my phone. It used to be more reliable than anywhere else in the world (I’ve been to 30+ countries on all six inhabited continents). I guess they are using interference to confuse possible Ukie drones.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    That would be my guess. I am not aware of any data, though. Curiously, judging by the social media in Russian, the greatest USSR lowers are old geezers (70+ years old) and youngsters (20-30 years old) who never experienced Soviet reality. People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    I've seen numerous polls that showed the older generations would go back to the USSR if given the choice.

    Communism benefits the retired, the mediocre and the idle.

    The retired get equal access to everything (transportation, entertainment, recreation, food, health care) when on a pension.

    Russia never became the economic powerhouse that was predicted by free market evangelists. The older generations believe their pensions are not enough and would go back to the USSR. That really says more about Russia as an economic disappointment than the utility of Communism. On some level it shouldn't be a surprise since Russia already is a totalitarian state. Certain freedoms don't exist so it wouldn't be as much of a change. It's not like they are taking vacations to Mexico and Vegas. Most are rural and pretty much watch television all day. They take a break to use a frozen outhouse or eat some eggs. Pretty sad and I'm not surprised they support bringing back the evil empire.

    Replies: @Beckow

  164. @A123
    @John Johnson

    😆 ROTFMAO 😂

    Let me fix that for you:

    What about the violent FBI fake "protestors" that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    Of course not. Anti-MAGA deep state operatives should not get a pardon. The FBI should be investigated and those agents who intentionally setup peaceful protesters should go to prison. The capitol officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt should be tried and receive the death penalty.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Let me fix that for you:

    What about the violent FBI fake “protestors” that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    Another proud MAGA reality denier.

    It was a former marine who attacked police officers with a hockey stick:
    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-marine-who-assaulted-officers-with-trump-2020-flag-on-a-hockey-stick-on-jan-6-gets-prison-time/

    He is a known MAGA supporter from Michigan who argued that his prison conditions were too harsh.

    So he should get a pardon?

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    WOWZERS! Just how deep are you into reality denial? #NeverTrump extremism is rotting your brain.

    J6 was an entrapment psyop. Cops illegally attacked MAGA supporters. Trump offered up thousands of national guards to run the day effectively. Instead the deep state turned them down and instigated the violence.

    MAGA supporters who defended themselves from criminal Fed assaults should obviously receive pardons. The Feds should be fired and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

    PEACE 😇

  165. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Are the commies more popular with the old geezers or anything like that?
     
    That would be my guess. I am not aware of any data, though. Curiously, judging by the social media in Russian, the greatest USSR lowers are old geezers (70+ years old) and youngsters (20-30 years old) who never experienced Soviet reality. People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR. Some things are visible even to a tourist: eateries of all price levels every 200 yards, in Moscow and in downtowns of all provincial capitals, magnificent look and incredible cleanliness of Moscow today (it beats all European capitals hands down: I’m comparing to London, Paris, Madrid, Rome, Berlin, Stockholm, Prague, Budapest, Zagreb, and others), huge expansion of Moscow underground (metro), where the least decorated out of >250 stations would be a gem advertised to tourists anywhere in Europe, stores brimming with all sorts of merchandise, etc. Some signs are subtler: people became a lot more relaxed and spontaneously polite than they used to be in Soviet times, which to me means that they live much better.

    This year for the first time I’ve seen a sign of war in Moscow: navigation works intermittently. Taxi drivers also complain about it, so it’s not only my phone. It used to be more reliable than anywhere else in the world (I’ve been to 30+ countries on all six inhabited continents). I guess they are using interference to confuse possible Ukie drones.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    That would be my guess. I am not aware of any data, though. Curiously, judging by the social media in Russian, the greatest USSR lowers are old geezers (70+ years old) and youngsters (20-30 years old) who never experienced Soviet reality. People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    I’ve seen numerous polls that showed the older generations would go back to the USSR if given the choice.

    Communism benefits the retired, the mediocre and the idle.

    The retired get equal access to everything (transportation, entertainment, recreation, food, health care) when on a pension.

    Russia never became the economic powerhouse that was predicted by free market evangelists. The older generations believe their pensions are not enough and would go back to the USSR. That really says more about Russia as an economic disappointment than the utility of Communism. On some level it shouldn’t be a surprise since Russia already is a totalitarian state. Certain freedoms don’t exist so it wouldn’t be as much of a change. It’s not like they are taking vacations to Mexico and Vegas. Most are rural and pretty much watch television all day. They take a break to use a frozen outhouse or eat some eggs. Pretty sad and I’m not surprised they support bringing back the evil empire.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    since Russia already is a totalitarian state.
     
    Wow, really? Do the Russians know? What is forbidden there? According to you it is going to Vegas and toilets(?). How do you define 'totalitarian'? Is it any society you don't like?

    You play the dumb American well - totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths...That's no way to run the world, that's why you are losing. Get a hold of yourself and fix your own problems, then read some books and open up your mind. And "Haley" is not the solution - she is the epitome of all your problems. But stupid will be stupid, so there is no helping you. It will be an ugly awakening for the likes of you.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

  166. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack

    A vignette about Ukie “mobilization”.

    Men risk a lot to run away across the Western border. Many are caught by Ukie border patrol: 4,855 from September 2023 through February 2024. This number includes 1,397 caught by 31st border detachment (Chernovtsy), 1,320 by 27th border detachment (Mukachevo), and 1,008 by the 2nd border detachment (Podolsk). Other border patrol detachment caught fewer “patriots”.

    Replies: @AP

    During World War II, half a million Americans attempted to avoid the draft. During the Vietnam War, over 500,000 were classified as draft offenders and over 200,000 were formally accused. There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.

    Ukraine still hasn’t mobilized under age 27 (they tried to lower the age to 25 but it hasn’t gotten through Parliament).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.
     
    But Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people. They say it is existential. Not at all like US draft dodging in Vietnam or even WW2.

    It doesn't add up: either people in Ukraine don't believe the Kiev rhetoric or they are resigned to losing. But there is clearly not mass enthusiasm to fight Russia.

    Replies: @AP

  167. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    During World War II, half a million Americans attempted to avoid the draft. During the Vietnam War, over 500,000 were classified as draft offenders and over 200,000 were formally accused. There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.

    Ukraine still hasn’t mobilized under age 27 (they tried to lower the age to 25 but it hasn’t gotten through Parliament).

    Replies: @Beckow

    …There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.

    But Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people. They say it is existential. Not at all like US draft dodging in Vietnam or even WW2.

    It doesn’t add up: either people in Ukraine don’t believe the Kiev rhetoric or they are resigned to losing. But there is clearly not mass enthusiasm to fight Russia.

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    …There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.

    But Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people
     
    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment. The Russians are being held, they are barely advancing. Places like Kiev are not close to being at risk of conquest. Ukraine needs workers, too.

    Slavs were at real existential risk (ultimately) of the Nazis, yet Czechs didn't fight them and Slovaks even joined them. As did lots of Russians. Soviets had problems with deserters and even used blocking units to kill Soviets who might desert. So again, nothing unique about desertion.

    It doesn’t add up: either people in Ukraine don’t believe the Kiev rhetoric or they are resigned to losing. But there is clearly not mass enthusiasm to fight Russia.
     
    Last draft dodging rate for Ukraine I saw was around 30% - that is, 70% aren't trying to dodge the draft. 30% is a lot but it's still a minority.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

  168. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    That would be my guess. I am not aware of any data, though. Curiously, judging by the social media in Russian, the greatest USSR lowers are old geezers (70+ years old) and youngsters (20-30 years old) who never experienced Soviet reality. People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    I've seen numerous polls that showed the older generations would go back to the USSR if given the choice.

    Communism benefits the retired, the mediocre and the idle.

    The retired get equal access to everything (transportation, entertainment, recreation, food, health care) when on a pension.

    Russia never became the economic powerhouse that was predicted by free market evangelists. The older generations believe their pensions are not enough and would go back to the USSR. That really says more about Russia as an economic disappointment than the utility of Communism. On some level it shouldn't be a surprise since Russia already is a totalitarian state. Certain freedoms don't exist so it wouldn't be as much of a change. It's not like they are taking vacations to Mexico and Vegas. Most are rural and pretty much watch television all day. They take a break to use a frozen outhouse or eat some eggs. Pretty sad and I'm not surprised they support bringing back the evil empire.

    Replies: @Beckow

    since Russia already is a totalitarian state.

    Wow, really? Do the Russians know? What is forbidden there? According to you it is going to Vegas and toilets(?). How do you define ‘totalitarian’? Is it any society you don’t like?

    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…That’s no way to run the world, that’s why you are losing. Get a hold of yourself and fix your own problems, then read some books and open up your mind. And “Haley” is not the solution – she is the epitome of all your problems. But stupid will be stupid, so there is no helping you. It will be an ugly awakening for the likes of you.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Wow, really? Do the Russians know? What is forbidden there? According to you it is going to Vegas and toilets(?). How do you define ‘totalitarian’? Is it any society you don’t like?

    I use a standard definition:
    of or relating to centralized control by an autocratic leader or hierarchy : AUTHORITARIAN, DICTATORIAL

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/totalitarian

    Russians are not allowed to form opposition parties or even protest. Presidential elections are considered fraudulent by worldwide democratic organizations. Putin has complete control over the Duma as seen by how he was able to start a war without even telling them.

    Russians have been arrested for holding up blank signs:
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-invasion-protests-police-arrest-activists-holding-blank-signs-paper-1687603

    Russian media and internet are censored.

    Yes that would be a totalitarian state.

    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…

    I don't play any role. I give my opinions and the view that Russia is a totalitarian state is common. People turn on TV and see Putin's thugs dragging away old women for holding up a picture of Navalny. That's a totalitarian state and all your PR work won't change world opinion which is that Russia is a totalitarian nation of bitter losers that is led by a psychopath.

    And “Haley” is not the solution – she is the epitome of all your problems.

    I never said she was a solution to all problems. I said I would take her over Biden and Trump.

    You have this amusing projection that everyone is equally attached to their national leaders. I think all world leaders are scum but the mass murdering dwarf you defend is on another level. But keep defending this 2.5 week special operation where Russia continues to lose ships to a country that doesn't have a Navy. Was clearly a super awesome idea.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…
     
    While this is true about that particular personage (always assuming it’s human), he/she/it does not deserve talking to. Even real people pontificating about countries they’ve never seen do not deserve talking to.

    In reality Russia today is freer and more democratic in the original sense of this term than the empire and virtually all of its sidekicks. But the imperial side is losing, so myths and lies are all that’s left to it. Let the losers lie, let the losers’ propagandists earn their keep. Russian population has matured enough, so now >80% of it does not trust the West an inch and does not give a hoot about the propaganda on the imperial patch.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

  169. @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack


    An those within the Russian army are supposedly the smartest of the smart?
     
    With the exception of Donbass fighters, who fight out of burning hatred of Ukies, the great majority of Russian military consists of contract personnel. These people are to a large extent after the money. Many hope to earn several million rubles to buy an apartment, or at least to put up a sizeable down-payment. The stakes were raised with special payments for destroying Leopard, Challenger, and Abrams tanks. The biggest prize is Abrams, up to 10 million rubles. I guess that's why every Abrams showing up on the front lines is promptly destroyed.

    Russian soldiers recently recorded a mocking video asking Alzheimer-in-Chief to send more Abrams tanks: a lot of people need apartments. They even promised the Veggie 10% kickback.

    Replies: @Jazman

    Lol true for Abrams they are special target and moment they show up something hit them , last one burned to the ground thanks to lot of aluminum parts , now they blame Ukies for not using them properly

  170. @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    The EU allows Europeans to be a part of a half-billion-strong confederation. That's nothing to scoff at! If EU bureaucrats misbehave, couldn't they simply get fired and replaced with new, better ones?

    The Russian war in Ukraine saw an increase in support for the EU across the EU.

    Replies: @Derer

    Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Soviets disintegrated as soon as dictatorial centre (communist) yoke has been defeated. These are precedent models for EU dictatorial centre, that keep it together, to fail in due time.

    No force will defeat the nationalistic feelings of each country in the union. Is not Ukraine such an example? Greece or Italy and others (UK reacted faster) will keep their borders sovereign much better then partying dimwits in Brussels.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    One can simultaneously be both a local European nationalist (such as, say, Polish or Italian or Czech or Ukrainian) and also be a Pan-European nationalist. I have no doubt that such people would want the EU to do a better job of defending and securing its own borders, but at the same time, I also don't think that such people would have that much objections to free movement within the EU. As an Austrian nationalist on one forum a while back told me, he has no problem with other Europeans, especially but not only former Austro-Hungarian imperial subject peoples, immigrating to Austria. Rather, what he has a problem with are people who lack any connection to or appreciation for Western culture immigrating to Austria. I suspect that there are a lot of European nationalists with such views.

    For that matter, this is just a hunch, but I suspect that the people who voted for Brexit had a much bigger beef with, say, Muslims than with Hindus or East Asians or Vietnamese or Filipinos or maybe even elite blacks.

    Replies: @Beckow

  171. @John Johnson
    @Derer


    An angry dwarf is threatening to blow up the planet
     
    Gee, such a power, I sense some fear in your exaggeration – first thing is you grab some diapers.

    Oh ok I'll make it accurate for you:
    An angry 5'1 dictator is threatening to blow up the planet.

    Yea that really changes everything. Much less of a threat when you take out the word dwarf.

    We call him a dwarf in part because it is illegal in Russia. You can't call him a dwarf or depict him as a crab. It's also illegal to refer to him as little zatches. I'm not familiar with the reference but it has something to do with an ugly baby from a German folk tale.

    Replies: @Derer

    Watch out, he is in great company Stalin, Napoleon, Deng. For some reason you are avoiding your dwarf Zelensky title.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Watch out, he is in great company Stalin, Napoleon, Deng.

    What great people.

    Stalin knew that Communism was a failure and still killed over 20 million people. He was the only European leader that trusted the word of Hitler in 1939 and we know how that went.

    Napolean fought for nearly 15 years and lost not only his European conquests but also huge overseas territories. He ended up on an island with nothing but his own thoughts. It has been suggested that France never recovered genetically from his wars. Meaning they killed too many brave and intelligent men. The Napoleonic wars started the trend where high level officers could be mowed down by idiots manning a cannon.

    Deng was just another Marxist loser. Really nothing to say about him.

    For some reason you are avoiding your dwarf Zelensky title.

    How many times do we have to explain this? Zelensky isn't hopelessly insecure about his height as he isn't 5'1 and doesn't wear special shoes. In Russia it is illegal to call Putin a dwarf.

    It also obviously bothers his bootlickers as they rush in to defend him. But not you of course.

    Just really sad that so many of you line up to defend a hopelessly insecure mass murdering dwarf. You must really have some serious resentment against the world. Most of his top defenders in the US/UK either have a criminal charge or have been accused. They are also mostly childless. Weirdly his top celebrity defenders have accusations of sexual harassment. The only exception is Steven Seagal who has been quiet since the invasion.

    Replies: @Derer

  172. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    since Russia already is a totalitarian state.
     
    Wow, really? Do the Russians know? What is forbidden there? According to you it is going to Vegas and toilets(?). How do you define 'totalitarian'? Is it any society you don't like?

    You play the dumb American well - totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths...That's no way to run the world, that's why you are losing. Get a hold of yourself and fix your own problems, then read some books and open up your mind. And "Haley" is not the solution - she is the epitome of all your problems. But stupid will be stupid, so there is no helping you. It will be an ugly awakening for the likes of you.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    Wow, really? Do the Russians know? What is forbidden there? According to you it is going to Vegas and toilets(?). How do you define ‘totalitarian’? Is it any society you don’t like?

    I use a standard definition:
    of or relating to centralized control by an autocratic leader or hierarchy : AUTHORITARIAN, DICTATORIAL

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/totalitarian

    Russians are not allowed to form opposition parties or even protest. Presidential elections are considered fraudulent by worldwide democratic organizations. Putin has complete control over the Duma as seen by how he was able to start a war without even telling them.

    Russians have been arrested for holding up blank signs:
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-invasion-protests-police-arrest-activists-holding-blank-signs-paper-1687603

    Russian media and internet are censored.

    Yes that would be a totalitarian state.

    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…

    I don’t play any role. I give my opinions and the view that Russia is a totalitarian state is common. People turn on TV and see Putin’s thugs dragging away old women for holding up a picture of Navalny. That’s a totalitarian state and all your PR work won’t change world opinion which is that Russia is a totalitarian nation of bitter losers that is led by a psychopath.

    And “Haley” is not the solution – she is the epitome of all your problems.

    I never said she was a solution to all problems. I said I would take her over Biden and Trump.

    You have this amusing projection that everyone is equally attached to their national leaders. I think all world leaders are scum but the mass murdering dwarf you defend is on another level. But keep defending this 2.5 week special operation where Russia continues to lose ships to a country that doesn’t have a Navy. Was clearly a super awesome idea.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    Russians are not allowed to form opposition parties or even protest.
     
    You are pure ignoramus americanus (or a conscious lier)...read this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_Vladimir_Putin_in_Russia#:~:text=Major%20political%20parties%20considered%20to,Party%20of%20Russia%20(LPR).

    More opposition than in US, actually quite a bit more. And protests? For a guy from a country that put 1,000 people in prison for daring to protest in Congress after a very close (and possibly dodgy) elections, you are on a really shaky ground. In your Ukieland they killed protestors - look up Odessa in May 2014.


    Russian media and internet are censored.
     
    Same as yours - in the West it is mostly the "private" companies. The governments ban all Russian or Chinese (or any uncontrolled) media. They are trying to ban tiktok now. I don't like it, but you are lying when you only point to Russia. And Assange is in jail for 10 years...

    Got anything else 'totalitarian'? Is China totalitarian? South Korea? Turkey? Saudi? You don't understand the term - read the definition more carefully. Russians are free to travel, do business, say whatever they want (other than about the war in the middle of the war - same in the West during actual wars. Russia has managed media and elections same as in the West. Try to apply the same measure at home as your project on others (read the Bible).


    I think all world leaders are scum
     
    True, see, we agree on something. Regarding degrees of scumhood, I would put a lot of leaders ahead of the ones we are discussing. The UK Indian guy and the Frenchie hysteric married to his grandma (incredible, but true)...Trudeau at the top as the scumbag of the century, too bad nobody cares about Canada so he gets lost. And Kamala with most of US Senators would also make the cut...

    What we have seen with the sunken ships is that ships are no longer protectable - that makes them useless, all of US-UK Navy is now good for nothing. They were beaten by a few Houthi guys in sandals. The technology has made ships indefensible - they can hide in the middle of the ocean, otherwise they are mostly floating junk.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Yawnathon.

    Replies: @A123

  173. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives. In my sect there are no Sunday bible readings from Revelation on any day of the calendar. We have a one year sequence and a three year sequence and pretty much every nook and cranny of the scriptures are covered with this exception. Most of these tales from modern television and whatnot preachers are downright heretical.

    I am a lot more interested in exploring the possibility that heretical kooks blew up Atlantis. I was surprised that Ron Unz posted that red heifer twitter gibberish. He could perhaps use a new hobby.

    Aliens!

    https://www.parareligion.ch/lam.htm

    Plan 93 from Outer Space by Peter-Robert Koenig

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123, @muh muh

    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives.

    And?

    It is enough that quite powerful Christian organizations, whose followers form a sizeable voting constituency, are on board with the narrative detailed in the video. More importantly, Christians other than the John Hagee prototypes are either entirely ineffective or disinterested in influencing American policy toward Israel, so this eschatology — along with those actively seeking to realize it — is very much a problem, however much you wish to blithely dismiss it as ‘gibberish’.

    It doesn’t matter what you think of the information outlined in the video. Those who run Israel take those prophecies very seriously, and since Israel effectively owns America (which, at this stage, can’t possibly be denied), what those Jewish nutjobs do to spark a wider war matters now more than ever.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @muh muh

    LOL

    I will add one thing. In spite of Ron Unz posting the gibberish video in three different places this thread is the only place where anybody has commented on it (that I have seen--I may have missed one as I do not read all comments closely (that is 203 comments in Unz's thread)) and you are the only person who supports it I guess. I would have called him out in his thread but his article is otherwise quite excellent and that seems like it would be nitpicking.

    Replies: @muh muh

  174. @LatW
    @songbird

    I watched Blackfish, and Orkid was featured there, I think either Orkid or another whale related to her was involved in one of the incidents. They are supposed to be in their native pod with their mothers, it's really sad how they separate them. Orkid might still be alive.

    Replies: @songbird

    Capturing some of them was pretty brutal originally. It is weird to think how different things were only fifty or sixty years ago. Seems like they are susceptible to a lot of diseases in captivity, like mosquito-born illnesses. Perhaps, this could be the source of some of the madness? Though probably much is a natural dominance contest, not geared towards human fragility.

    I sometimes think that whales and dolphins are the only ones with legitimate grievances (or would be if they could have them.)

    Since some of these creatures have potentially been encountering each other for so long, I wonder to what extent they can understand each other’s language.

    [MORE]

    BTW, it is surprising how many of these sea beasts seem to have scoliosis. I would have thought that being in the ocean would help prevent spine problems, but it almost seems like the opposite. Maybe, it makes it easier to survive than it would with a land animal.

    Bottlenose seem to interact with different whales. They have been observed sliding down the backs of humpbacks, for fun.

    Though, there are some clips of dolphins or whales on YouTube that I wish I hadn’t encountered. Apparently dolphins try to hump women sort of like some dogs. And there are gay humpbacks, which the media promote. (Though perhaps not in the same sense as humans.)

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Capturing some of them was pretty brutal originally. It is weird to think how different things were only fifty or sixty years ago.
     
    The changes in mentality in this regard are relatively new, in EE it only started a few years ago (with circus animals and it was even crazier than these whale abuses), maybe 10 or so years ago, but they have seen some results. Ideologically speaking, wouldn't it be nice to just pick things one likes or doesn't like (kind of like in a buffet), without labels.

    What's really messed up is how the lefties are going to point at this and say "This is what happened when America was great", even though there were states already 30 years ago that shut down capturing whales.

    It might be possible that mass immigration actually hurts whales. Because they don't like noise and contamination, growing cities add to this.


    Seems like they are susceptible to a lot of diseases in captivity, like mosquito-born illnesses. Perhaps, this could be the source of some of the madness?
     
    They just languish in captivity, the male fin flops sideways. And it's not really "madness" when they just resist... to call that "aggression" or whatever is just misandry.

    Since some of these creatures have potentially been encountering each other for so long, I wonder to what extent they can understand each other’s language.
     
    The pods have their own language but I think they understand other pods, too. But not sure they understand the larger whales.

    BTW, it is surprising how many of these sea beasts seem to have scoliosis. I would have thought that being in the ocean would help prevent spine problems, but it almost seems like the opposite. Maybe, it makes it easier to survive than it would with a land animal.
     
    Maybe because of their size? Larger animals in general have more back problems? In humans, too, I think.

    Apparently dolphins try to hump women sort of like some dogs.
     
    Ugh, it's probably less annoying than with dogs. Well, they're mammals. I wonder how that dolphin therapy works.

    And there are gay humpbacks, which the media promote.
     
    Good lord. That's like the least important thing on the planet (them being "gay"). They should talk about their survival, not about them being gay.

    Btw, the orca mating is kind of beautiful, it is super slow.

    Replies: @songbird

  175. A123 says: • Website
    @John Johnson
    @A123

    Let me fix that for you:

    What about the violent FBI fake “protestors” that attacked police officers? Should they get a pardon?

    Another proud MAGA reality denier.

    It was a former marine who attacked police officers with a hockey stick:
    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/former-marine-who-assaulted-officers-with-trump-2020-flag-on-a-hockey-stick-on-jan-6-gets-prison-time/

    He is a known MAGA supporter from Michigan who argued that his prison conditions were too harsh.

    So he should get a pardon?

    Replies: @A123

    WOWZERS! Just how deep are you into reality denial? #NeverTrump extremism is rotting your brain.

    J6 was an entrapment psyop. Cops illegally attacked MAGA supporters. Trump offered up thousands of national guards to run the day effectively. Instead the deep state turned them down and instigated the violence.

    MAGA supporters who defended themselves from criminal Fed assaults should obviously receive pardons. The Feds should be fired and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: QCIC
  176. @muh muh
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    As far as I know there are no traditional mainstream Christian sects on board with any of these Revelation / Apocalypse / Eschaton narratives.
     
    And?

    It is enough that quite powerful Christian organizations, whose followers form a sizeable voting constituency, are on board with the narrative detailed in the video. More importantly, Christians other than the John Hagee prototypes are either entirely ineffective or disinterested in influencing American policy toward Israel, so this eschatology -- along with those actively seeking to realize it -- is very much a problem, however much you wish to blithely dismiss it as 'gibberish'.

    It doesn't matter what you think of the information outlined in the video. Those who run Israel take those prophecies very seriously, and since Israel effectively owns America (which, at this stage, can't possibly be denied), what those Jewish nutjobs do to spark a wider war matters now more than ever.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    LOL

    I will add one thing. In spite of Ron Unz posting the gibberish video in three different places this thread is the only place where anybody has commented on it (that I have seen–I may have missed one as I do not read all comments closely (that is 203 comments in Unz’s thread)) and you are the only person who supports it I guess. I would have called him out in his thread but his article is otherwise quite excellent and that seems like it would be nitpicking.

    • Replies: @muh muh
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    you are the only person who supports it I guess
     
    Guesswork is never a good substitute for certainty.

    Four other posters in the Aggregated Newslinks thanked Ron for the same video.

    In fact, far from being 'gibberish', it's quite well produced and coherent.

    I'd be curious to know why you feel so provoked by it as to deride it.
  177. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    since Russia already is a totalitarian state.
     
    Wow, really? Do the Russians know? What is forbidden there? According to you it is going to Vegas and toilets(?). How do you define 'totalitarian'? Is it any society you don't like?

    You play the dumb American well - totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths...That's no way to run the world, that's why you are losing. Get a hold of yourself and fix your own problems, then read some books and open up your mind. And "Haley" is not the solution - she is the epitome of all your problems. But stupid will be stupid, so there is no helping you. It will be an ugly awakening for the likes of you.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…

    While this is true about that particular personage (always assuming it’s human), he/she/it does not deserve talking to. Even real people pontificating about countries they’ve never seen do not deserve talking to.

    In reality Russia today is freer and more democratic in the original sense of this term than the empire and virtually all of its sidekicks. But the imperial side is losing, so myths and lies are all that’s left to it. Let the losers lie, let the losers’ propagandists earn their keep. Russian population has matured enough, so now >80% of it does not trust the West an inch and does not give a hoot about the propaganda on the imperial patch.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...it does not deserve talking to
     
    Probably, but I am the child of enlightenment, I try to reason with people. In the case of the frustrated WalMart dwarf-spotter 'Johnson' it is obviously useless.

    Different perspectives are useful. The liberal masters-of-the-universe are going down and it is important to see why it happened and how they react. As a child I observed similar collapse of socialism (that's what we always called it in Czechoslovakia). There were a few die-hards, some people who denied the obvious, there was the gradual loss of faith in anything. In our parts it was the loyalists who were shouted down in the years before 1989 - the commies were in retreat since mid-80's, even earlier. Kind of a reverse societal censorship, that's why the Western myths sound so stupid.

    One exception was the Pavel family - yes, the current Czech President who wants to invade Russia. His dad was the head of Intelligence who vocally defended USSR, the son was a young commie on a "fast-track" to run the country. It turned out he found a new sponsor. Scum will be scum, they will always find the dirt to prosper in.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    This is the most interesting moment. Western examples can’t possibly appear any better than anything they’ve already tried.

    What reform there will do any good for the Russians?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  178. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Wow, really? Do the Russians know? What is forbidden there? According to you it is going to Vegas and toilets(?). How do you define ‘totalitarian’? Is it any society you don’t like?

    I use a standard definition:
    of or relating to centralized control by an autocratic leader or hierarchy : AUTHORITARIAN, DICTATORIAL

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/totalitarian

    Russians are not allowed to form opposition parties or even protest. Presidential elections are considered fraudulent by worldwide democratic organizations. Putin has complete control over the Duma as seen by how he was able to start a war without even telling them.

    Russians have been arrested for holding up blank signs:
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-invasion-protests-police-arrest-activists-holding-blank-signs-paper-1687603

    Russian media and internet are censored.

    Yes that would be a totalitarian state.

    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…

    I don't play any role. I give my opinions and the view that Russia is a totalitarian state is common. People turn on TV and see Putin's thugs dragging away old women for holding up a picture of Navalny. That's a totalitarian state and all your PR work won't change world opinion which is that Russia is a totalitarian nation of bitter losers that is led by a psychopath.

    And “Haley” is not the solution – she is the epitome of all your problems.

    I never said she was a solution to all problems. I said I would take her over Biden and Trump.

    You have this amusing projection that everyone is equally attached to their national leaders. I think all world leaders are scum but the mass murdering dwarf you defend is on another level. But keep defending this 2.5 week special operation where Russia continues to lose ships to a country that doesn't have a Navy. Was clearly a super awesome idea.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    Russians are not allowed to form opposition parties or even protest.

    You are pure ignoramus americanus (or a conscious lier)…read this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_Vladimir_Putin_in_Russia#:~:text=Major%20political%20parties%20considered%20to,Party%20of%20Russia%20(LPR).

    More opposition than in US, actually quite a bit more. And protests? For a guy from a country that put 1,000 people in prison for daring to protest in Congress after a very close (and possibly dodgy) elections, you are on a really shaky ground. In your Ukieland they killed protestors – look up Odessa in May 2014.

    Russian media and internet are censored.

    Same as yours – in the West it is mostly the “private” companies. The governments ban all Russian or Chinese (or any uncontrolled) media. They are trying to ban tiktok now. I don’t like it, but you are lying when you only point to Russia. And Assange is in jail for 10 years…

    Got anything else ‘totalitarian‘? Is China totalitarian? South Korea? Turkey? Saudi? You don’t understand the term – read the definition more carefully. Russians are free to travel, do business, say whatever they want (other than about the war in the middle of the war – same in the West during actual wars. Russia has managed media and elections same as in the West. Try to apply the same measure at home as your project on others (read the Bible).

    I think all world leaders are scum

    True, see, we agree on something. Regarding degrees of scumhood, I would put a lot of leaders ahead of the ones we are discussing. The UK Indian guy and the Frenchie hysteric married to his grandma (incredible, but true)…Trudeau at the top as the scumbag of the century, too bad nobody cares about Canada so he gets lost. And Kamala with most of US Senators would also make the cut…

    What we have seen with the sunken ships is that ships are no longer protectable – that makes them useless, all of US-UK Navy is now good for nothing. They were beaten by a few Houthi guys in sandals. The technology has made ships indefensible – they can hide in the middle of the ocean, otherwise they are mostly floating junk.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    My two cents on censorship in the US from personal experience. The worst censorship I’ve ever encountered is performed by Vanderbilt University. Parteigenosse Hitler would approve wholeheartedly. Today’s libtards are the worst Nazis.

    Vanderbilt IT blocked the whole domains (e.g., .ru) and many sites in addition to that. The censors are stupid (as usual), so even some parts of the NIH commons site and some sites of the US banks got blocked. Likely inadvertently: you don’t need elaborate conspiracy theories where simple stupidity explains everything satisfactorily.

    However, my home Wi-FI is from conservative AT&T, and my phone service is from conservative T mobile. Their censorship is a lot milder, so I can access what I want from my home comp and my phone.

    I had to establish private email, as messages from Russia do not get through to my Vanderbilt email. Funnily enough, messages from Iran get through OK. Apparently libtard scum is scared of Russia a lot more than of Iran. In my book, this means that Russia is doing things right. It is a sign that you are on the right side of history when shit is against you.

  179. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…
     
    While this is true about that particular personage (always assuming it’s human), he/she/it does not deserve talking to. Even real people pontificating about countries they’ve never seen do not deserve talking to.

    In reality Russia today is freer and more democratic in the original sense of this term than the empire and virtually all of its sidekicks. But the imperial side is losing, so myths and lies are all that’s left to it. Let the losers lie, let the losers’ propagandists earn their keep. Russian population has matured enough, so now >80% of it does not trust the West an inch and does not give a hoot about the propaganda on the imperial patch.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    …it does not deserve talking to

    Probably, but I am the child of enlightenment, I try to reason with people. In the case of the frustrated WalMart dwarf-spotter ‘Johnson’ it is obviously useless.

    Different perspectives are useful. The liberal masters-of-the-universe are going down and it is important to see why it happened and how they react. As a child I observed similar collapse of socialism (that’s what we always called it in Czechoslovakia). There were a few die-hards, some people who denied the obvious, there was the gradual loss of faith in anything. In our parts it was the loyalists who were shouted down in the years before 1989 – the commies were in retreat since mid-80’s, even earlier. Kind of a reverse societal censorship, that’s why the Western myths sound so stupid.

    One exception was the Pavel family – yes, the current Czech President who wants to invade Russia. His dad was the head of Intelligence who vocally defended USSR, the son was a young commie on a “fast-track” to run the country. It turned out he found a new sponsor. Scum will be scum, they will always find the dirt to prosper in.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I observed similar collapse of socialism
     
    I had similar experience in the USSR. I saw one empire dying, so I know the signs. Americans won’t believe me, but I see every sign of a dying empire now in the US. In fact, it’s sad: I invested a lot into this country, spent my most productive years here, did a lot to increase its scientific glory. So, it pains me to see libtards ruining it. Chances are, the downfall is already irreversible. Maybe a leader of Putin’s caliber could have saved the US, but I don’t see anyone who qualifies.

    Still, I will vote for Trump as a lesser of two evils, although I am not his fan at all. He is just better than the ruling libtard cabal. Some say that the US will become like Brazil. In fact, it will become a lot worse than Brazil, as Brazil evolved like that and had decades to adjust, whereas the US won’t have those decades. If current cabal remains in power after 2024, in 3-4 years the US will become an unlivable shithole.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Beckow

  180. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    Russians are not allowed to form opposition parties or even protest.
     
    You are pure ignoramus americanus (or a conscious lier)...read this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_Vladimir_Putin_in_Russia#:~:text=Major%20political%20parties%20considered%20to,Party%20of%20Russia%20(LPR).

    More opposition than in US, actually quite a bit more. And protests? For a guy from a country that put 1,000 people in prison for daring to protest in Congress after a very close (and possibly dodgy) elections, you are on a really shaky ground. In your Ukieland they killed protestors - look up Odessa in May 2014.


    Russian media and internet are censored.
     
    Same as yours - in the West it is mostly the "private" companies. The governments ban all Russian or Chinese (or any uncontrolled) media. They are trying to ban tiktok now. I don't like it, but you are lying when you only point to Russia. And Assange is in jail for 10 years...

    Got anything else 'totalitarian'? Is China totalitarian? South Korea? Turkey? Saudi? You don't understand the term - read the definition more carefully. Russians are free to travel, do business, say whatever they want (other than about the war in the middle of the war - same in the West during actual wars. Russia has managed media and elections same as in the West. Try to apply the same measure at home as your project on others (read the Bible).


    I think all world leaders are scum
     
    True, see, we agree on something. Regarding degrees of scumhood, I would put a lot of leaders ahead of the ones we are discussing. The UK Indian guy and the Frenchie hysteric married to his grandma (incredible, but true)...Trudeau at the top as the scumbag of the century, too bad nobody cares about Canada so he gets lost. And Kamala with most of US Senators would also make the cut...

    What we have seen with the sunken ships is that ships are no longer protectable - that makes them useless, all of US-UK Navy is now good for nothing. They were beaten by a few Houthi guys in sandals. The technology has made ships indefensible - they can hide in the middle of the ocean, otherwise they are mostly floating junk.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    My two cents on censorship in the US from personal experience. The worst censorship I’ve ever encountered is performed by Vanderbilt University. Parteigenosse Hitler would approve wholeheartedly. Today’s libtards are the worst Nazis.

    Vanderbilt IT blocked the whole domains (e.g., .ru) and many sites in addition to that. The censors are stupid (as usual), so even some parts of the NIH commons site and some sites of the US banks got blocked. Likely inadvertently: you don’t need elaborate conspiracy theories where simple stupidity explains everything satisfactorily.

    However, my home Wi-FI is from conservative AT&T, and my phone service is from conservative T mobile. Their censorship is a lot milder, so I can access what I want from my home comp and my phone.

    I had to establish private email, as messages from Russia do not get through to my Vanderbilt email. Funnily enough, messages from Iran get through OK. Apparently libtard scum is scared of Russia a lot more than of Iran. In my book, this means that Russia is doing things right. It is a sign that you are on the right side of history when shit is against you.

  181. Does the state department monitor the flow of gay tourists to tell when a country like Haiti has taken a turn for the worst?

  182. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...it does not deserve talking to
     
    Probably, but I am the child of enlightenment, I try to reason with people. In the case of the frustrated WalMart dwarf-spotter 'Johnson' it is obviously useless.

    Different perspectives are useful. The liberal masters-of-the-universe are going down and it is important to see why it happened and how they react. As a child I observed similar collapse of socialism (that's what we always called it in Czechoslovakia). There were a few die-hards, some people who denied the obvious, there was the gradual loss of faith in anything. In our parts it was the loyalists who were shouted down in the years before 1989 - the commies were in retreat since mid-80's, even earlier. Kind of a reverse societal censorship, that's why the Western myths sound so stupid.

    One exception was the Pavel family - yes, the current Czech President who wants to invade Russia. His dad was the head of Intelligence who vocally defended USSR, the son was a young commie on a "fast-track" to run the country. It turned out he found a new sponsor. Scum will be scum, they will always find the dirt to prosper in.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I observed similar collapse of socialism

    I had similar experience in the USSR. I saw one empire dying, so I know the signs. Americans won’t believe me, but I see every sign of a dying empire now in the US. In fact, it’s sad: I invested a lot into this country, spent my most productive years here, did a lot to increase its scientific glory. So, it pains me to see libtards ruining it. Chances are, the downfall is already irreversible. Maybe a leader of Putin’s caliber could have saved the US, but I don’t see anyone who qualifies.

    Still, I will vote for Trump as a lesser of two evils, although I am not his fan at all. He is just better than the ruling libtard cabal. Some say that the US will become like Brazil. In fact, it will become a lot worse than Brazil, as Brazil evolved like that and had decades to adjust, whereas the US won’t have those decades. If current cabal remains in power after 2024, in 3-4 years the US will become an unlivable shithole.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @AnonfromTN

    Join the club except my disappointment is with Russia. Russia is heading for a future where it replaces Argentina as the "might have been" destroyed by nationalism and state control of industry and business.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    , @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...every sign of a dying empire now in the US
     
    True, but life never repeats the same way, too many variables. More likely the Euro vassal-lands will bear the brunt. It is never good to be a controlled vassal of a declining empire. Euro leaders are running around like headless chickens. But the center can do quite well, even benefit from the vassals' difficulties. It is a form of cannibalism.

    US will become like Brazil. In fact, it will become a lot worse than Brazil, as Brazil evolved like that and had decades to adjust
     
    The imported unauthentic Brazil-ness can be a lot worse than the authentic one in Brazil. It is the "Latinization" process, becoming like the Third World. Demography is destiny, people drive the culture, not vice-versa.

    The numbers are horrific: Africa is heading towards a billion people - 5-10% will manage to come to US, and billions in Asia-Latin America. US with above 500 million people will be an overcrowded sh..hole with miserable infrastructure, Third World cities, and even more corrupt government - the last one comes with the territory, we can already see it.

    At some point the ability to reverse it (or even control it) is gone, the new people take over and simply bring their own selfs and change the country. Given the poor quality of the previous elite (Clintons? Biden? Graham? McCain?) and the boomers selling their progeny (and country) it was inevitable.

    The funny one is the $34 trillion "debt" that it is based on - like a magical 'god' created during the good times, it was fed and sacrificed to until it exploded an acquired a life of its own. US can't live with the debt, but can't discard it, it grow into infinity at $1 trillion per quarter. It looks like they gave up.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

  183. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    Wow, really? Do the Russians know? What is forbidden there? According to you it is going to Vegas and toilets(?). How do you define ‘totalitarian’? Is it any society you don’t like?

    I use a standard definition:
    of or relating to centralized control by an autocratic leader or hierarchy : AUTHORITARIAN, DICTATORIAL

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/totalitarian

    Russians are not allowed to form opposition parties or even protest. Presidential elections are considered fraudulent by worldwide democratic organizations. Putin has complete control over the Duma as seen by how he was able to start a war without even telling them.

    Russians have been arrested for holding up blank signs:
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-invasion-protests-police-arrest-activists-holding-blank-signs-paper-1687603

    Russian media and internet are censored.

    Yes that would be a totalitarian state.

    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…

    I don't play any role. I give my opinions and the view that Russia is a totalitarian state is common. People turn on TV and see Putin's thugs dragging away old women for holding up a picture of Navalny. That's a totalitarian state and all your PR work won't change world opinion which is that Russia is a totalitarian nation of bitter losers that is led by a psychopath.

    And “Haley” is not the solution – she is the epitome of all your problems.

    I never said she was a solution to all problems. I said I would take her over Biden and Trump.

    You have this amusing projection that everyone is equally attached to their national leaders. I think all world leaders are scum but the mass murdering dwarf you defend is on another level. But keep defending this 2.5 week special operation where Russia continues to lose ships to a country that doesn't have a Navy. Was clearly a super awesome idea.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    Yawnathon.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Wokechoke

    What is the best response to JJ/KK's total commitment to the Leftoid IslamoGloboHomo cause?

    It is hard to let him get away with his fanatical #NeverTrump lies. At the same time, responding to his pro-violence trolling just generates more troll posts.

    He is crazy enough to believe that Disney's DEI/ESG laden Star Wars projects are great movies. He even praises Solo which LOST money. His precious Iger's series The Acolyte will be a dumpster fire that will further damage the Star Wars IP.

    PEACE 😇

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gPmIf4seCyA

  184. @LatW
    @S1


    I’d not heard of that one before.
     
    This one is not the most typical of his work, in terms of its form (he mostly has short stories and poems, but this one is his only finished novel and it is a kind of a travelogue with a lot of geographic detail). But there are a few flashes of his typical style in it as well (some horror, haunting scenes, the apparition in the end).

    A lot of his writing is truly crazy so it's best to take it in in small doses (otherwise it's too heavy for the soul), so that's why these short stories are good.


    Poe was kind of cool in his way, though seems to have lived a hard life.
     
    Tbh, these types are not always very functional, they are too sensitive (and can be difficult in personal life, thus they often sabotage their own happiness, I'm not saying it was him, in his case, he may have just been too artsy or introspective). But he lost his family early on, so that's really heavy.

    The Tell-Tale Heart is of course among the more famous ones, a classic, it's in first person, and it's interesting how much of his own subjective feelings he put in it (he may have had anxiety), but it sounds almost a bit clinical.

    The Raven is probably the most famous. In that poem, there is a theme, a repetitive sound ("the tapping") similar to how there is the beating of the heart in the other one. The images he conjures up are scary, but his language so beautiful that it pulls one back to the story. I can only tolerate this type of horror in writing, not on video. Although I love these types of settings (castles, a silver chalice, etc). In The Raven there is an open window, with curtains flowing in the wind which is kind of disturbing, etc. Images that inspire yearning, etc. It's all there.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @S1

    A lot of his writing is truly crazy so it’s best to take it in in small doses (otherwise it’s too heavy for the soul), so that’s why these short stories are good.

    Today if people are in the mood for a fright, they watch a horror movie. In those days I suppose they would whip out their copy of Poe and read that.

    Tbh, these types are not always very functional, they are too sensitive (and can be difficult in personal life, thus they often sabotage their own happiness, I’m not saying it was him, in his case, he may have just been too artsy or introspective).

    That’s a valid point.. His actual personality might of shined through in his writings, so he may well have been something of a depressive in real life.

    The images he conjures up are scary, but his language so beautiful that it pulls one back to the story. I can only tolerate this type of horror in writing, not on video.

    Dickens was also quite descriptive in his writing, and while it’s true a picture can be worth a thousand words, videos and films often don’t do books justice.

    I ran into this Poe Museum article. It might be a bit of a stretch what they suggest in regards to his untimely demise, but maybe not. He seems to have been something of a mysterious figure both while alive and in death.

    https://poemuseum.org/poe-museums-object-of-the-month-may-hold-clue-to-poes-mysterious-death/

  185. @songbird
    @LatW

    Capturing some of them was pretty brutal originally. It is weird to think how different things were only fifty or sixty years ago. Seems like they are susceptible to a lot of diseases in captivity, like mosquito-born illnesses. Perhaps, this could be the source of some of the madness? Though probably much is a natural dominance contest, not geared towards human fragility.

    I sometimes think that whales and dolphins are the only ones with legitimate grievances (or would be if they could have them.)

    Since some of these creatures have potentially been encountering each other for so long, I wonder to what extent they can understand each other's language.
    https://youtu.be/7iFzIMZRsoI?si=5vfgHF3KBVcE1JKb
    BTW, it is surprising how many of these sea beasts seem to have scoliosis. I would have thought that being in the ocean would help prevent spine problems, but it almost seems like the opposite. Maybe, it makes it easier to survive than it would with a land animal.

    Bottlenose seem to interact with different whales. They have been observed sliding down the backs of humpbacks, for fun.

    Though, there are some clips of dolphins or whales on YouTube that I wish I hadn't encountered. Apparently dolphins try to hump women sort of like some dogs. And there are gay humpbacks, which the media promote. (Though perhaps not in the same sense as humans.)

    Replies: @LatW

    Capturing some of them was pretty brutal originally. It is weird to think how different things were only fifty or sixty years ago.

    The changes in mentality in this regard are relatively new, in EE it only started a few years ago (with circus animals and it was even crazier than these whale abuses), maybe 10 or so years ago, but they have seen some results. Ideologically speaking, wouldn’t it be nice to just pick things one likes or doesn’t like (kind of like in a buffet), without labels.

    What’s really messed up is how the lefties are going to point at this and say “This is what happened when America was great”, even though there were states already 30 years ago that shut down capturing whales.

    It might be possible that mass immigration actually hurts whales. Because they don’t like noise and contamination, growing cities add to this.

    [MORE]

    Seems like they are susceptible to a lot of diseases in captivity, like mosquito-born illnesses. Perhaps, this could be the source of some of the madness?

    They just languish in captivity, the male fin flops sideways. And it’s not really “madness” when they just resist… to call that “aggression” or whatever is just misandry.

    Since some of these creatures have potentially been encountering each other for so long, I wonder to what extent they can understand each other’s language.

    The pods have their own language but I think they understand other pods, too. But not sure they understand the larger whales.

    BTW, it is surprising how many of these sea beasts seem to have scoliosis. I would have thought that being in the ocean would help prevent spine problems, but it almost seems like the opposite. Maybe, it makes it easier to survive than it would with a land animal.

    Maybe because of their size? Larger animals in general have more back problems? In humans, too, I think.

    Apparently dolphins try to hump women sort of like some dogs.

    Ugh, it’s probably less annoying than with dogs. Well, they’re mammals. I wonder how that dolphin therapy works.

    And there are gay humpbacks, which the media promote.

    Good lord. That’s like the least important thing on the planet (them being “gay”). They should talk about their survival, not about them being gay.

    Btw, the orca mating is kind of beautiful, it is super slow.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    in EE it only started a few years ago
     
    I have always found it puzzling how long the USSR persisted whaling. (1987). You would think that they would be very tuned into the Western intelligentsia, and very concerned about perceptions regarding these big charismatic animals. And I heard that it was not economic either. They didn't sell it abroad, and whale meat was not very much in demand internally.

    But not sure they understand the larger whales.
     
    orcas use it to home-in on their prey, and some whales run silent at times to avoid this. But I think in those that have a friendlier relationship, like bottlenose, they might be cooperating in some way. Such behavior happens in birds, to a degree.

    They should talk about their survival,
     
    I think humpbacks may eventually be taking up the resources of some of these other whale species, as their population is exploding. Perhaps, we should be cheering on the orcas, in that particular match-up.

    Well, they’re mammals
     
    I feel like we would see a lot of half-dolphin things, if cross-genus hybridization was as easy as Eugene McCarthy claims.

    Replies: @LatW

  186. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Yawnathon.

    Replies: @A123

    What is the best response to JJ/KK’s total commitment to the Leftoid IslamoGloboHomo cause?

    It is hard to let him get away with his fanatical #NeverTrump lies. At the same time, responding to his pro-violence trolling just generates more troll posts.

    He is crazy enough to believe that Disney’s DEI/ESG laden Star Wars projects are great movies. He even praises Solo which LOST money. His precious Iger’s series The Acolyte will be a dumpster fire that will further damage the Star Wars IP.

    PEACE 😇

  187. Humpback population is rapidly increasing. Reason is because they can get pregnant while nursing. In a few decades, it is estimated that there will be more than there ever were, even before whaling.

    North Atlantic Right Whales are possibly collapsing. It may be worth making nuclear-powered drones with catapillar drives to escort and protect them on their journeys. These drones could be built from Basque reparations.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    These drones could be built from Basque reparations.
     
    What are those?

    The most painful issue is the Southern Resident Orcas, how to help them. Just last year a calf died.

    I don't get why other pods are so much more vigorous and lively, like that one you posted a video of where they all just jumped that bigger whale, with such ferocity, they seemed so full of life. I suppose some environments are less sensitive and better for their survival than others.

    It'd be cool to see what valuable substance could be retrieved from the humpback whale. Maybe some longevity supplement.

    Replies: @songbird

  188. Battle of the Nations
    Norway France

    [MORE]

    This is the best highlight clips so far from the 2nd biggest American tournament.
    Also Casper Ruud has a great name for a tennis god.

  189. @Mikhail
    Burns & Biden

    Re: Three Below Linked Pieces

    CIA Director William Burns just testified that the Kiev regime is in danger of losing to Russia if it doesn't get the Biden Admin proposed aid.

    This past July, Burns' boss said that Russia already lost. Burns comes across as someone jockeying with the reality of an eventual Russian victory over neocon/neolib mischief making. In 2008, he cautiously said that trying to get Ukraine in NATO is a red line for Russia.

    As the recently resigned Victoria Nuland noted, most of the proposed aid to the Kiev regime will actually go to the US military industrial complex. (Nuland has since landed a gig at Columbia University, which already has Hillary Clinton.) The false image that the Kiev regime can win with more aid serves as cover for a corrupt defense spending racket. This aid will not suddenly release a dramatic increase in arms. The weapons have to be produced and operated by experienced personnel. This situation takes time, which the Kiev regime doesn't have too much of.

    As previously noted with some additions:

    The US outspends the next seven leading nations in defense spending combined. Five of the ten leading defense spenders are NATO members. The US outspends Russia and China by a combined three to one margin.

    Yet Russia produces artillery shells and tanks at a much better rate than what the collective West can give to the corrupt, lying, undemocratic and neo-Nazi influenced Kiev regime, which has blood on its hands before and after 2/24/22. The NYT puts Russia at a seven to one advantage in artillery shell production over the entire collective West.

    Kiev regime forces have been severely decimated with not enough in terms of new recruits, along with limited properly trained personnel. With considerably less losses and much more in reserve, Russia is poised for victory.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/us/politics/intelligence-officials-ukraine-aid.html

    https://carnegieendowment.org/pdf/back-channel/2008EmailtoRice1.pdf

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    The NYT number of 7x is a distortion of Shoigu’s report to Putin that Rostec had increased production by 7x. Not the same thing at all.

    Rostec was in 5th place in Europe for shell production before the war. Going from a half shift to 4 shift working could increase potential production 7x but in the real world there would be recruitment and training time to consider. A brand new factory with access to European forging equipment and chemical processing capital equipment might be built in 18 months.

    The Europeans ahead of Rostec in production capability have prior commitments to orders placed before the war. They also use a 6 month settling down period before checking shell quality and adding fuses. So they weren’t delivering until September last year. BAe Systems near me has expanded production lines at its shell filling plant without asking the local authority for permission. About 50% more capacity. It was single shift. Given a big enough order, it too can expand to maybe 4 times production. Then General Dynamics, Rheinmetall and NAMMO, all bigger in ammo than Rostec. NAMMO didn’t have enough electrical supply to expand at its Norwegian plant as a data centre had been built at the end of the same power line spur. NAMMO has now transferred some equipment and personnel to a site in Sweden. Production is ramping up but there is the 6 month delay. The large reopened Bulgarian plant to make Soviet calibres is in the final stages of start up but QA of packed cases will mean that it is 6 months before their ammo is deliverable. The EU/NATO EUrope capacity is very large but it is not yet wholly available to Ukraine. The flow is increasing month by month though as other order obligations are worked off and the new capacity finally gets delivered.

    France was on the left foot. They are expanding capacity. Italy has minor capabilty. Serbia, Egypt, Pakistan are all selling to Ukraine. All seem to be using full QA so delivery is delayed.

    Russia might tolerate shell failure as their technique is area bombardment rather than precision targetting. Also delivery of any shells may have a priority than perfect shells. The new NATO production is going to its own armies and the older stock is being sent to NATO. So QA can’t be skipped for NATO production. The US seems to have upped production at Scranton anyway.

    So in no more than 6 months, there will be a considerable increase in shell deliveries to Ukraine. Russia has already had its 1m shells (3m assumes all containers were filled with shells) from NK. Iran is a ? but not at the level of millions. Putin has until midsummer to acheive at least one war aim so that he can negotiate and claim victory.

    • Thanks: sudden death
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Philip Owen

    Sounds plausible. Manufacturing artillery shells/projectiles should be old hat, probably even for guided types. I always thought the suggestion of major bottlenecks was a sign of a lack of will or fishing for more money.

    The high consumption of dumb artillery shells is mostly a symptom of the Russian tactics specific to the SMO. They want to grind down the AFU with less damage to large population centers. The military has accepted the casualty exchange rate for whatever it is. I doubt this style of combat will continue to the end. The money is better spent on drone countermeasures.

    , @sudden death
    @Philip Owen

    German battle group in Lithuania will have its own local based production of ammo supply;)


    March 14, 2024

    Germany's largest defence contractor Rheinmetall, which intends to significantly accelerate profit growth this year, is about to ramp up its production of artillery shells to 10 times the previously produced amount.

    Before the Ukraine war, around 70,000 shell were sold per year, but demand has now increased massively, Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger said on Thursday in Dusseldorf.

    With a view to the intended production capacities at the end of 2024, Papperger added: "We are talking about around 700,000 shells." With a a new production in Germany and two planned plants in Ukraine and Lithuania, this figure is expected to rise to 1.1 million by 2027.

    Rheinmetall says it is the largest manufacturer of artillery ammunition in the Western world; its competitors include the Norwegian company Nammo.
     

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/rheinmetall-ups-profit-ramps-production-174420960.html

    Replies: @Derer

  190. @LatW
    @songbird


    Capturing some of them was pretty brutal originally. It is weird to think how different things were only fifty or sixty years ago.
     
    The changes in mentality in this regard are relatively new, in EE it only started a few years ago (with circus animals and it was even crazier than these whale abuses), maybe 10 or so years ago, but they have seen some results. Ideologically speaking, wouldn't it be nice to just pick things one likes or doesn't like (kind of like in a buffet), without labels.

    What's really messed up is how the lefties are going to point at this and say "This is what happened when America was great", even though there were states already 30 years ago that shut down capturing whales.

    It might be possible that mass immigration actually hurts whales. Because they don't like noise and contamination, growing cities add to this.


    Seems like they are susceptible to a lot of diseases in captivity, like mosquito-born illnesses. Perhaps, this could be the source of some of the madness?
     
    They just languish in captivity, the male fin flops sideways. And it's not really "madness" when they just resist... to call that "aggression" or whatever is just misandry.

    Since some of these creatures have potentially been encountering each other for so long, I wonder to what extent they can understand each other’s language.
     
    The pods have their own language but I think they understand other pods, too. But not sure they understand the larger whales.

    BTW, it is surprising how many of these sea beasts seem to have scoliosis. I would have thought that being in the ocean would help prevent spine problems, but it almost seems like the opposite. Maybe, it makes it easier to survive than it would with a land animal.
     
    Maybe because of their size? Larger animals in general have more back problems? In humans, too, I think.

    Apparently dolphins try to hump women sort of like some dogs.
     
    Ugh, it's probably less annoying than with dogs. Well, they're mammals. I wonder how that dolphin therapy works.

    And there are gay humpbacks, which the media promote.
     
    Good lord. That's like the least important thing on the planet (them being "gay"). They should talk about their survival, not about them being gay.

    Btw, the orca mating is kind of beautiful, it is super slow.

    Replies: @songbird

    in EE it only started a few years ago

    I have always found it puzzling how long the USSR persisted whaling. (1987). You would think that they would be very tuned into the Western intelligentsia, and very concerned about perceptions regarding these big charismatic animals. And I heard that it was not economic either. They didn’t sell it abroad, and whale meat was not very much in demand internally.

    [MORE]

    But not sure they understand the larger whales.

    orcas use it to home-in on their prey, and some whales run silent at times to avoid this. But I think in those that have a friendlier relationship, like bottlenose, they might be cooperating in some way. Such behavior happens in birds, to a degree.

    They should talk about their survival,

    I think humpbacks may eventually be taking up the resources of some of these other whale species, as their population is exploding. Perhaps, we should be cheering on the orcas, in that particular match-up.

    Well, they’re mammals

    I feel like we would see a lot of half-dolphin things, if cross-genus hybridization was as easy as Eugene McCarthy claims.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    I have always found it puzzling how long the USSR persisted whaling. (1987). You would think that they would be very tuned into the Western intelligentsia, and very concerned about perceptions regarding these big charismatic animals.
     
    They would not have cared enough because the general populations did not have direct contact. So there was no space for comparing or "shaming", all that stuff started only after 1991. And at that moment the Americans were very amicable towards the Russians. The Norwegian environmental groups came in a bit later and did not have much influence and, afaik, they were mostly concerned with the contamination from the nuclear subs (and human rights, but that was later).

    Btw, the sperm whale in Russian is called kashalot - probably comes from French. In the Euro languages (including my language), the root is "val".

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means "whitey".

    Don't recall any Soviet menus containing whale. I've had whale once, in Norway, I need to look up what type it was, it was near Narvik, and they had a very scarce menu there, but they did have something called "the val burger" (the whale burger), and also "the elk burger" - but that one is more common. It was a nice restaurant with not much on its menu, but there was whale.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

  191. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I observed similar collapse of socialism
     
    I had similar experience in the USSR. I saw one empire dying, so I know the signs. Americans won’t believe me, but I see every sign of a dying empire now in the US. In fact, it’s sad: I invested a lot into this country, spent my most productive years here, did a lot to increase its scientific glory. So, it pains me to see libtards ruining it. Chances are, the downfall is already irreversible. Maybe a leader of Putin’s caliber could have saved the US, but I don’t see anyone who qualifies.

    Still, I will vote for Trump as a lesser of two evils, although I am not his fan at all. He is just better than the ruling libtard cabal. Some say that the US will become like Brazil. In fact, it will become a lot worse than Brazil, as Brazil evolved like that and had decades to adjust, whereas the US won’t have those decades. If current cabal remains in power after 2024, in 3-4 years the US will become an unlivable shithole.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Beckow

    Join the club except my disappointment is with Russia. Russia is heading for a future where it replaces Argentina as the “might have been” destroyed by nationalism and state control of industry and business.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Philip Owen

    Ben Aris and you aside, not happening.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  192. @songbird
    Humpback population is rapidly increasing. Reason is because they can get pregnant while nursing. In a few decades, it is estimated that there will be more than there ever were, even before whaling.

    North Atlantic Right Whales are possibly collapsing. It may be worth making nuclear-powered drones with catapillar drives to escort and protect them on their journeys. These drones could be built from Basque reparations.

    Replies: @LatW

    These drones could be built from Basque reparations.

    What are those?

    The most painful issue is the Southern Resident Orcas, how to help them. Just last year a calf died.

    I don’t get why other pods are so much more vigorous and lively, like that one you posted a video of where they all just jumped that bigger whale, with such ferocity, they seemed so full of life. I suppose some environments are less sensitive and better for their survival than others.

    It’d be cool to see what valuable substance could be retrieved from the humpback whale. Maybe some longevity supplement.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    What are those?
     
    A bit of a joke on my part, poking fun at all these groups wanting reparations. Now, there are Indians in Guyana or somewhere jumping on the bandwagon and demanding free stuff for being descended from indentured servants.

    I say that the whales are the only one deserving reparations - all the others got something out of it, like free tropical islands, or a much higher standard of living than they merit. But the mostly peaceful whales nearly got annihilated, and we have given them nothing.

    Basques began hunting right whales in the 11th century and continued for several hundred years. I think there probably weren't very many left in the North Atlantic (considered a separate species) at the time whaling in America took off.

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group. But the more idiosyncratic the joke, the funnier, IMO.

    Maybe some longevity supplement
     
    I wonder how long people would live, of they spent all their time in water. Probably wouldn't be healthy. But if own took the support of weight alone, maybe it would be a help, as certain people believe that being in space or on Mars would be an advantage, due to the weaker gravity.

    Replies: @Mikel, @LatW

  193. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail

    Looked at the Russian polls (several polls by different companies). Reminder: in the RF there are four presidential candidates: Putin, Kharitonov (communists), Slutsky (Zhirinovsky’s party), and Davankov (party “New people”). I saw Russian elections poster with candidates’ faces and their self-description. Putin’s self-description is three lines, the others used >20 lines each.

    All Russian experts agree that the fight is essentially for the second place, as the first place is clear. All polls predict 78-82% support for Putin, with similar (5-7%) support for each of the others. In fact, ~20% increase of Putin’s support should be credited to the idiotic policies of the West and its Ukie puppets. His support was in the low sixties several years ago (Western “democratic” politicians can only dream of this level of support). The majority thinks that commies will get the second place and Zhiric’s party the third. We’ll see: March 17th is the last day of elections (early online voting started about a week ago; early in-person voting starts on the 15th).

    Replies: @sudden death, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Philip Owen

    I thnk the fight is for 3rd. The communists are still organized with members and a platform. While I was surprised at the youthfulness and quality of the LDPR politicians who shared power with UR for a while in Saratov province, (I met them face to face) with Z they have no coherency. The youthful and competent cadres all left for jobs in Moscow when UR returned to full power.

  194. @LatW
    @songbird


    These drones could be built from Basque reparations.
     
    What are those?

    The most painful issue is the Southern Resident Orcas, how to help them. Just last year a calf died.

    I don't get why other pods are so much more vigorous and lively, like that one you posted a video of where they all just jumped that bigger whale, with such ferocity, they seemed so full of life. I suppose some environments are less sensitive and better for their survival than others.

    It'd be cool to see what valuable substance could be retrieved from the humpback whale. Maybe some longevity supplement.

    Replies: @songbird

    What are those?

    A bit of a joke on my part, poking fun at all these groups wanting reparations. Now, there are Indians in Guyana or somewhere jumping on the bandwagon and demanding free stuff for being descended from indentured servants.

    I say that the whales are the only one deserving reparations – all the others got something out of it, like free tropical islands, or a much higher standard of living than they merit. But the mostly peaceful whales nearly got annihilated, and we have given them nothing.

    Basques began hunting right whales in the 11th century and continued for several hundred years. I think there probably weren’t very many left in the North Atlantic (considered a separate species) at the time whaling in America took off.

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group. But the more idiosyncratic the joke, the funnier, IMO.

    Maybe some longevity supplement

    I wonder how long people would live, of they spent all their time in water. Probably wouldn’t be healthy. But if own took the support of weight alone, maybe it would be a help, as certain people believe that being in space or on Mars would be an advantage, due to the weaker gravity.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @songbird


    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group.
     
    Exactly. We may have started the trade but everyone else joined in later. Even the Anglo-Russians of the Muscovy Company expelled us from Spitsbergen to decimate the whales of that region by themselves. So let's spread those reparations please.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @LatW
    @songbird


    Now, there are Indians in Guyana or somewhere jumping on the bandwagon and demanding free stuff for being descended from indentured servants.
     
    Did that just happen because that's the country that was just almost invaded or because they jumped the North America bandwagon?

    Basques began hunting right whales in the 11th century and continued for several hundred years. I think there probably weren’t very many left in the North Atlantic (considered a separate species) at the time whaling in America took off.
     

    In the historical perspective and purely from the natural, low technological human existence POV, whaling is ok - it's just a form of hunting. It's organic with the environment. But it is somewhat brutal especially with growing cities.

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group. But the more idiosyncratic the joke, the funnier, IMO.
     
    Yes, it was pretty funny, they should be taught a lesson. :)


    Btw, there was a huge whaling scandal in the Faroe Islands not too long ago. Back then I sided with the Faroese because this was their indigenous food source (and apparently still is - I do believe that because it's hard to transport food that far north) and because I liked the band Tyr, who sided with the whalers. They hunt (hack, I guess you can say, lol) the pilot whale, not sure if it's extinct.

    At that time there was a crazy pirate-like environmentalist group who used to annoy everybody. Remember it annoyed the hell out of me as well, but now that I encountered real orcas, I'm having second thoughts about this. Btw, it turned out that the English actor Clive Standen who played Rollo in The Vikings series got on board with this group, too, even wearing their T-shirt. It surprised me because I felt that he should've sided with the "vikings" but it turned out that he is super humane (unlike the character he played).


    But if own took the support of weight alone, maybe it would be a help, as certain people believe that being in space or on Mars would be an advantage, due to the weaker gravity.
     
    There is this thing out there called the float tank - it's a kind of a spa treatment for stress relief, a sensual deprivation tank. But it might be different than the whale experience where you do hear sounds. Would be awesome to float in a tank with whale sounds playing. It is dark.

    Replies: @songbird, @S1

  195. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    You play the dumb American well – totally lost in your ignorance, lack of experience, deep emotions based on myths…
     
    While this is true about that particular personage (always assuming it’s human), he/she/it does not deserve talking to. Even real people pontificating about countries they’ve never seen do not deserve talking to.

    In reality Russia today is freer and more democratic in the original sense of this term than the empire and virtually all of its sidekicks. But the imperial side is losing, so myths and lies are all that’s left to it. Let the losers lie, let the losers’ propagandists earn their keep. Russian population has matured enough, so now >80% of it does not trust the West an inch and does not give a hoot about the propaganda on the imperial patch.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Wokechoke

    This is the most interesting moment. Western examples can’t possibly appear any better than anything they’ve already tried.

    What reform there will do any good for the Russians?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    What reform there will do any good for the Russians?
     
    From my POV, reforms in Russia should be good for Russians, reforms in the US should benefit Americans.

    I think the critical mistake of foreigners is that they view Russia through the prism of its SMO in Ukraine. SMO is not the main concern of the Russian populace or government, the development of Russia is. Russia is constantly changing. There are many construction mega-projects, as well as widespread ongoing construction everywhere in cities, including Moscow. I think Russia is changing in the right direction. Imports of food went way down, so now the food everywhere, including Moscow, is local, and therefore tasty. Of course, my life in the US dramatically reduced my standards: even unremarkable (by Russian standards) Russian food is immeasurably better than what you get in expensive restaurants in the US. Service is also superior, in eateries and in stores. Besides, in Russia you can have anything you want delivered to your apartment, from a loaf of bread to the choicest filet mignon. Industry is finally reviving. It produces many things that used to be imported, from medicines to airplanes. Russian made drugs of the same quality are several times cheaper than imported varieties, so they win the competition. I believe all these trends are good for the country. From my personal perspective I would say they need to put more effort into developing academic science, particularly experimental biology. But I don’t plan to work there, only to retire.

    The US is going down. I would say that it deteriorated in the last three years more than in the preceding thirty: everything libtards touch turns to shit. I believe that the US would benefit by curbing speculative finance sector and re-industrializing. Right now everything you find in stores is made in China, or, if you are lucky, in Vietnam, Philippines, Mexico, etc. That’s a shame. Big agro and food processing companies need to be curbed, better yet eliminated. They are responsible for the dismal quality of American food, which is the root cause of obesity epidemic (obesity causes diabetes, heart disease, and many other bad things). The US needs to spend many times less on the military, close its bases in >150 countries, and focus on the the country. American infrastructure is falling apart and needs massive investment. However, no reform in the US would be possible without dismantling current political system, which is rotten to the core. As this is not on the cards, I won’t hold my breath.This country needs a leader of Putin’s caliber. Instead, we are heading for the same choice as in 2020: a moron with Alzheimer’s or a moron without dementia. The first means four more years of rapid decline, the second means slower decline. This country needs to dramatically veer off from its suicidal course.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  196. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    It' not about how popular nor potent the current Ukrainian incursions are, but that these are definite signs of Russia's permeability at its own borders. Nobody could have imagined these sorts of responses by Ukraine during the first year of the war. It leaves the door open for greater and more potent Ukrainian incursions into Russian territory into the future.

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/03/06/9d627d30e6f665d2d91ccae714f0b87d.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp
    Beware The Ides of March!
    Serhiy Kolyada on what many hope will be the outcome of the forthcoming pseudo-election In Rasszia

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Keep dreaming.

  197. @Mr. Hack
    For all of the rest of you:

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/03/03/7cd77cfd67d2486417e344fe385d9cf2.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp
    Rasszist Warplanes Continue Being Knocked Out of the Skies
    Serhiy Kolyada on the transformation of Rasszia's 'mighty' airforce into kamikaze squadrons.

    How true, how true...

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Keep dreaming.

  198. Have heard that Teslas have laminated glass on the front doors, so that it your car goes into a pond, you are basically dead. Am quite surprised that there is no existing regulation against this.

  199. @Philip Owen
    @AnonfromTN

    Join the club except my disappointment is with Russia. Russia is heading for a future where it replaces Argentina as the "might have been" destroyed by nationalism and state control of industry and business.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Ben Aris and you aside, not happening.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    He and I have discussed this in the distant past.

  200. @songbird
    @LatW


    What are those?
     
    A bit of a joke on my part, poking fun at all these groups wanting reparations. Now, there are Indians in Guyana or somewhere jumping on the bandwagon and demanding free stuff for being descended from indentured servants.

    I say that the whales are the only one deserving reparations - all the others got something out of it, like free tropical islands, or a much higher standard of living than they merit. But the mostly peaceful whales nearly got annihilated, and we have given them nothing.

    Basques began hunting right whales in the 11th century and continued for several hundred years. I think there probably weren't very many left in the North Atlantic (considered a separate species) at the time whaling in America took off.

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group. But the more idiosyncratic the joke, the funnier, IMO.

    Maybe some longevity supplement
     
    I wonder how long people would live, of they spent all their time in water. Probably wouldn't be healthy. But if own took the support of weight alone, maybe it would be a help, as certain people believe that being in space or on Mars would be an advantage, due to the weaker gravity.

    Replies: @Mikel, @LatW

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group.

    Exactly. We may have started the trade but everyone else joined in later. Even the Anglo-Russians of the Muscovy Company expelled us from Spitsbergen to decimate the whales of that region by themselves. So let’s spread those reparations please.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mikel


    Even the Anglo-Russians of the Muscovy Company expelled us from Spitsbergen

     

    Wow, I had no idea Basques got up that way.

    IMO, it is very likely that right whales have been hunted since at least the Neolithic.

    There was a study in 2018, where they sequenced DNA found at a Roman fish-processing plant near Gibraltar and found right and gray whales.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180711093227.htm

    Perhaps, they merely were beached there. But there were some very old petroglyphs found in Korea. And nearby there were whalebones.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangudae_Petroglyphs

    Withal though, if Romans were hunting whales, I am surprised it didn't have a more transformative effect. Perhaps, they weren't deepwater hunting and that was key.

    Replies: @Mikel

  201. @songbird
    @LatW


    What are those?
     
    A bit of a joke on my part, poking fun at all these groups wanting reparations. Now, there are Indians in Guyana or somewhere jumping on the bandwagon and demanding free stuff for being descended from indentured servants.

    I say that the whales are the only one deserving reparations - all the others got something out of it, like free tropical islands, or a much higher standard of living than they merit. But the mostly peaceful whales nearly got annihilated, and we have given them nothing.

    Basques began hunting right whales in the 11th century and continued for several hundred years. I think there probably weren't very many left in the North Atlantic (considered a separate species) at the time whaling in America took off.

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group. But the more idiosyncratic the joke, the funnier, IMO.

    Maybe some longevity supplement
     
    I wonder how long people would live, of they spent all their time in water. Probably wouldn't be healthy. But if own took the support of weight alone, maybe it would be a help, as certain people believe that being in space or on Mars would be an advantage, due to the weaker gravity.

    Replies: @Mikel, @LatW

    Now, there are Indians in Guyana or somewhere jumping on the bandwagon and demanding free stuff for being descended from indentured servants.

    Did that just happen because that’s the country that was just almost invaded or because they jumped the North America bandwagon?

    Basques began hunting right whales in the 11th century and continued for several hundred years. I think there probably weren’t very many left in the North Atlantic (considered a separate species) at the time whaling in America took off.

    In the historical perspective and purely from the natural, low technological human existence POV, whaling is ok – it’s just a form of hunting. It’s organic with the environment. But it is somewhat brutal especially with growing cities.

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group. But the more idiosyncratic the joke, the funnier, IMO.

    Yes, it was pretty funny, they should be taught a lesson. 🙂

    [MORE]

    Btw, there was a huge whaling scandal in the Faroe Islands not too long ago. Back then I sided with the Faroese because this was their indigenous food source (and apparently still is – I do believe that because it’s hard to transport food that far north) and because I liked the band Tyr, who sided with the whalers. They hunt (hack, I guess you can say, lol) the pilot whale, not sure if it’s extinct.

    At that time there was a crazy pirate-like environmentalist group who used to annoy everybody. Remember it annoyed the hell out of me as well, but now that I encountered real orcas, I’m having second thoughts about this. Btw, it turned out that the English actor Clive Standen who played Rollo in The Vikings series got on board with this group, too, even wearing their T-shirt. It surprised me because I felt that he should’ve sided with the “vikings” but it turned out that he is super humane (unlike the character he played).

    But if own took the support of weight alone, maybe it would be a help, as certain people believe that being in space or on Mars would be an advantage, due to the weaker gravity.

    There is this thing out there called the float tank – it’s a kind of a spa treatment for stress relief, a sensual deprivation tank. But it might be different than the whale experience where you do hear sounds. Would be awesome to float in a tank with whale sounds playing. It is dark.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Did that just happen because that’s the country that was just almost invaded or because they jumped the North America bandwagon?

     

    This was the article mentioning Indians.
    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/03/caribbean-countries-say-uk-must-pay-reparations-for-indentured-labour/

    I get the vague impression that some Anglo-Indian writers are still very popular in India, which I think might hint at a lack of real animus in many, beyond the convenient excuse for national unity.
    ______
    Have heard that false killers sometimes form pods with bottlenose.
    , @S1
    @LatW


    I say that the whales are the only one deserving reparations..
     
    Okay, but in what form would these reparations be made and who should make them?

    Would it be in the form of guarantees made that there would be an increase in the whale food supply in their natural habitat, ie an increase of the whales favored tasty krill and plankton?

    As for responsibility, we already know from our trustworthy news organizations and history books about the Basques historically having 98 percent of the responsibility for the whale decimation ;-) , but, even so, should others help them out with these reparations? :-)

    Replies: @LatW

  202. @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    The NYT number of 7x is a distortion of Shoigu's report to Putin that Rostec had increased production by 7x. Not the same thing at all.

    Rostec was in 5th place in Europe for shell production before the war. Going from a half shift to 4 shift working could increase potential production 7x but in the real world there would be recruitment and training time to consider. A brand new factory with access to European forging equipment and chemical processing capital equipment might be built in 18 months.

    The Europeans ahead of Rostec in production capability have prior commitments to orders placed before the war. They also use a 6 month settling down period before checking shell quality and adding fuses. So they weren't delivering until September last year. BAe Systems near me has expanded production lines at its shell filling plant without asking the local authority for permission. About 50% more capacity. It was single shift. Given a big enough order, it too can expand to maybe 4 times production. Then General Dynamics, Rheinmetall and NAMMO, all bigger in ammo than Rostec. NAMMO didn't have enough electrical supply to expand at its Norwegian plant as a data centre had been built at the end of the same power line spur. NAMMO has now transferred some equipment and personnel to a site in Sweden. Production is ramping up but there is the 6 month delay. The large reopened Bulgarian plant to make Soviet calibres is in the final stages of start up but QA of packed cases will mean that it is 6 months before their ammo is deliverable. The EU/NATO EUrope capacity is very large but it is not yet wholly available to Ukraine. The flow is increasing month by month though as other order obligations are worked off and the new capacity finally gets delivered.

    France was on the left foot. They are expanding capacity. Italy has minor capabilty. Serbia, Egypt, Pakistan are all selling to Ukraine. All seem to be using full QA so delivery is delayed.

    Russia might tolerate shell failure as their technique is area bombardment rather than precision targetting. Also delivery of any shells may have a priority than perfect shells. The new NATO production is going to its own armies and the older stock is being sent to NATO. So QA can't be skipped for NATO production. The US seems to have upped production at Scranton anyway.

    So in no more than 6 months, there will be a considerable increase in shell deliveries to Ukraine. Russia has already had its 1m shells (3m assumes all containers were filled with shells) from NK. Iran is a ? but not at the level of millions. Putin has until midsummer to acheive at least one war aim so that he can negotiate and claim victory.

    Replies: @QCIC, @sudden death

    Sounds plausible. Manufacturing artillery shells/projectiles should be old hat, probably even for guided types. I always thought the suggestion of major bottlenecks was a sign of a lack of will or fishing for more money.

    The high consumption of dumb artillery shells is mostly a symptom of the Russian tactics specific to the SMO. They want to grind down the AFU with less damage to large population centers. The military has accepted the casualty exchange rate for whatever it is. I doubt this style of combat will continue to the end. The money is better spent on drone countermeasures.

  203. @songbird
    @LatW


    in EE it only started a few years ago
     
    I have always found it puzzling how long the USSR persisted whaling. (1987). You would think that they would be very tuned into the Western intelligentsia, and very concerned about perceptions regarding these big charismatic animals. And I heard that it was not economic either. They didn't sell it abroad, and whale meat was not very much in demand internally.

    But not sure they understand the larger whales.
     
    orcas use it to home-in on their prey, and some whales run silent at times to avoid this. But I think in those that have a friendlier relationship, like bottlenose, they might be cooperating in some way. Such behavior happens in birds, to a degree.

    They should talk about their survival,
     
    I think humpbacks may eventually be taking up the resources of some of these other whale species, as their population is exploding. Perhaps, we should be cheering on the orcas, in that particular match-up.

    Well, they’re mammals
     
    I feel like we would see a lot of half-dolphin things, if cross-genus hybridization was as easy as Eugene McCarthy claims.

    Replies: @LatW

    I have always found it puzzling how long the USSR persisted whaling. (1987). You would think that they would be very tuned into the Western intelligentsia, and very concerned about perceptions regarding these big charismatic animals.

    They would not have cared enough because the general populations did not have direct contact. So there was no space for comparing or “shaming”, all that stuff started only after 1991. And at that moment the Americans were very amicable towards the Russians. The Norwegian environmental groups came in a bit later and did not have much influence and, afaik, they were mostly concerned with the contamination from the nuclear subs (and human rights, but that was later).

    Btw, the sperm whale in Russian is called kashalot – probably comes from French. In the Euro languages (including my language), the root is “val”.

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means “whitey”.

    Don’t recall any Soviet menus containing whale. I’ve had whale once, in Norway, I need to look up what type it was, it was near Narvik, and they had a very scarce menu there, but they did have something called “the val burger” (the whale burger), and also “the elk burger” – but that one is more common. It was a nice restaurant with not much on its menu, but there was whale.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Don’t recall any Soviet menus containing whale.
     
    not necessarily accurate, but I have imagined it in a can.

    The biggest thing from the ocean I have ever eaten is swordfish. It was okay. But probably not worth the price and the mercury or other chemicals. I am happy eating relatively small fish. I feel like whale probably would not taste good, as it is something the Japanese eat and they eat a lot of weird stuff.

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means “whitey”.
     
    I am big fan of the beluga. It seems such a funny-looking and friendly creature. They say one once saved the life of a diver in trouble by biting the leg and bringing the person to the surface - like the reverse of a killer orca.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/1ldqX8spIww?si=bgrHDr_ixiIq0CKH

    The fact that they are white reminds me of the white "eyespots" on orcas. They are an interesting mystery. I suspect that they are there for social cues - they remind me of the black patchwork that was painted on certain rockets to help measure if they started to roll.

    But it would be pretty cool of they were some kind of camouflage to protect their eyes from some extinct creature or something.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    How did the restaurant whale taste in Norway? Do you remember?

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @LatW

  204. @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    This is the most interesting moment. Western examples can’t possibly appear any better than anything they’ve already tried.

    What reform there will do any good for the Russians?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    What reform there will do any good for the Russians?

    From my POV, reforms in Russia should be good for Russians, reforms in the US should benefit Americans.

    I think the critical mistake of foreigners is that they view Russia through the prism of its SMO in Ukraine. SMO is not the main concern of the Russian populace or government, the development of Russia is. Russia is constantly changing. There are many construction mega-projects, as well as widespread ongoing construction everywhere in cities, including Moscow. I think Russia is changing in the right direction. Imports of food went way down, so now the food everywhere, including Moscow, is local, and therefore tasty. Of course, my life in the US dramatically reduced my standards: even unremarkable (by Russian standards) Russian food is immeasurably better than what you get in expensive restaurants in the US. Service is also superior, in eateries and in stores. Besides, in Russia you can have anything you want delivered to your apartment, from a loaf of bread to the choicest filet mignon. Industry is finally reviving. It produces many things that used to be imported, from medicines to airplanes. Russian made drugs of the same quality are several times cheaper than imported varieties, so they win the competition. I believe all these trends are good for the country. From my personal perspective I would say they need to put more effort into developing academic science, particularly experimental biology. But I don’t plan to work there, only to retire.

    The US is going down. I would say that it deteriorated in the last three years more than in the preceding thirty: everything libtards touch turns to shit. I believe that the US would benefit by curbing speculative finance sector and re-industrializing. Right now everything you find in stores is made in China, or, if you are lucky, in Vietnam, Philippines, Mexico, etc. That’s a shame. Big agro and food processing companies need to be curbed, better yet eliminated. They are responsible for the dismal quality of American food, which is the root cause of obesity epidemic (obesity causes diabetes, heart disease, and many other bad things). The US needs to spend many times less on the military, close its bases in >150 countries, and focus on the the country. American infrastructure is falling apart and needs massive investment. However, no reform in the US would be possible without dismantling current political system, which is rotten to the core. As this is not on the cards, I won’t hold my breath.This country needs a leader of Putin’s caliber. Instead, we are heading for the same choice as in 2020: a moron with Alzheimer’s or a moron without dementia. The first means four more years of rapid decline, the second means slower decline. This country needs to dramatically veer off from its suicidal course.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    These industrial strategies or changes are not political reforms. I mean Democracy, Autocracy, Freedom, Communism, Socialism, The Market, Conservativism. Big bold ideas type reform.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  205. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @muh muh

    LOL

    I will add one thing. In spite of Ron Unz posting the gibberish video in three different places this thread is the only place where anybody has commented on it (that I have seen--I may have missed one as I do not read all comments closely (that is 203 comments in Unz's thread)) and you are the only person who supports it I guess. I would have called him out in his thread but his article is otherwise quite excellent and that seems like it would be nitpicking.

    Replies: @muh muh

    you are the only person who supports it I guess

    Guesswork is never a good substitute for certainty.

    Four other posters in the Aggregated Newslinks thanked Ron for the same video.

    In fact, far from being ‘gibberish’, it’s quite well produced and coherent.

    I’d be curious to know why you feel so provoked by it as to deride it.

  206. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Watch out, he is in great company Stalin, Napoleon, Deng. For some reason you are avoiding your dwarf Zelensky title.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Watch out, he is in great company Stalin, Napoleon, Deng.

    What great people.

    Stalin knew that Communism was a failure and still killed over 20 million people. He was the only European leader that trusted the word of Hitler in 1939 and we know how that went.

    Napolean fought for nearly 15 years and lost not only his European conquests but also huge overseas territories. He ended up on an island with nothing but his own thoughts. It has been suggested that France never recovered genetically from his wars. Meaning they killed too many brave and intelligent men. The Napoleonic wars started the trend where high level officers could be mowed down by idiots manning a cannon.

    Deng was just another Marxist loser. Really nothing to say about him.

    For some reason you are avoiding your dwarf Zelensky title.

    How many times do we have to explain this? Zelensky isn’t hopelessly insecure about his height as he isn’t 5’1 and doesn’t wear special shoes. In Russia it is illegal to call Putin a dwarf.

    It also obviously bothers his bootlickers as they rush in to defend him. But not you of course.

    Just really sad that so many of you line up to defend a hopelessly insecure mass murdering dwarf. You must really have some serious resentment against the world. Most of his top defenders in the US/UK either have a criminal charge or have been accused. They are also mostly childless. Weirdly his top celebrity defenders have accusations of sexual harassment. The only exception is Steven Seagal who has been quiet since the invasion.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Stalin was a great leader that was able to bring essentially a feudal Soviets to a world power that defeated mighty Germans and became a force at Yalta over the two sick visitors. No other leader would have accomplished this monumental task. His revolutionary methods, although ruthless, eventually paid off. The famine in Ukraine was carried out by Kaganovich and Khrushchev and the Siberian gulag by Yagoda and Beria.

    Napoleon achieved greatness by being essentially master of Europe. However his preoccupation with Josephine caused his downfall from one muddy battle.

    Deng was an architect of Chinese transformation to pseudo-market oriented economy...he was too old but he opened the gates for foreign investment in China.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack

  207. @Mikel
    @songbird


    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group.
     
    Exactly. We may have started the trade but everyone else joined in later. Even the Anglo-Russians of the Muscovy Company expelled us from Spitsbergen to decimate the whales of that region by themselves. So let's spread those reparations please.

    Replies: @songbird

    Even the Anglo-Russians of the Muscovy Company expelled us from Spitsbergen

    Wow, I had no idea Basques got up that way.

    IMO, it is very likely that right whales have been hunted since at least the Neolithic.

    There was a study in 2018, where they sequenced DNA found at a Roman fish-processing plant near Gibraltar and found right and gray whales.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180711093227.htm

    Perhaps, they merely were beached there. But there were some very old petroglyphs found in Korea. And nearby there were whalebones.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangudae_Petroglyphs

    Withal though, if Romans were hunting whales, I am surprised it didn’t have a more transformative effect. Perhaps, they weren’t deepwater hunting and that was key.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @songbird

    I don't really know much about whales but my understanding is that it used to be a sea shore hunting business. Only when the littoral specimens became scarce they started hunting them in the high seas, ever further away.

    I descend from sailors on one side of my family, in all likelihood whale hunters or cod fishermen in the North Atlantic, so any talk of whale reparations makes me feel uneasy.

    However, one shouldn't judge these poor souls too harshly. The replicas I've seen of the ships they used to sail to Canada and the Arctic make you feel respect for these people. Spending weeks on end in those icy, stormy waters on those rudimentary nutshells was surely not for the faint hearted.

    Replies: @songbird

  208. @LatW
    @songbird


    I have always found it puzzling how long the USSR persisted whaling. (1987). You would think that they would be very tuned into the Western intelligentsia, and very concerned about perceptions regarding these big charismatic animals.
     
    They would not have cared enough because the general populations did not have direct contact. So there was no space for comparing or "shaming", all that stuff started only after 1991. And at that moment the Americans were very amicable towards the Russians. The Norwegian environmental groups came in a bit later and did not have much influence and, afaik, they were mostly concerned with the contamination from the nuclear subs (and human rights, but that was later).

    Btw, the sperm whale in Russian is called kashalot - probably comes from French. In the Euro languages (including my language), the root is "val".

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means "whitey".

    Don't recall any Soviet menus containing whale. I've had whale once, in Norway, I need to look up what type it was, it was near Narvik, and they had a very scarce menu there, but they did have something called "the val burger" (the whale burger), and also "the elk burger" - but that one is more common. It was a nice restaurant with not much on its menu, but there was whale.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    Don’t recall any Soviet menus containing whale.

    not necessarily accurate, but I have imagined it in a can.

    [MORE]

    The biggest thing from the ocean I have ever eaten is swordfish. It was okay. But probably not worth the price and the mercury or other chemicals. I am happy eating relatively small fish. I feel like whale probably would not taste good, as it is something the Japanese eat and they eat a lot of weird stuff.

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means “whitey”.

    I am big fan of the beluga. It seems such a funny-looking and friendly creature. They say one once saved the life of a diver in trouble by biting the leg and bringing the person to the surface – like the reverse of a killer orca.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/1ldqX8spIww?si=bgrHDr_ixiIq0CKH

    The fact that they are white reminds me of the white “eyespots” on orcas. They are an interesting mystery. I suspect that they are there for social cues – they remind me of the black patchwork that was painted on certain rockets to help measure if they started to roll.

    But it would be pretty cool of they were some kind of camouflage to protect their eyes from some extinct creature or something.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @songbird


    I feel like whale probably would not taste good
     
    I've never tried it but Basque fishermen to this day call sea mammal meat "txitxia", meaning animal meat. A small boat fisherman once told me about what life is like out in the high seas. Guess what they do when they find a dolphin entangled in their nets.
    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Plesiosaurus2.jpg

    Plesiosaurus fossils are supposedly the dragon remains that became the legend according to Hutton.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @AP
    @songbird

    I tried seal steak in northern Quebec once. It was well prepared and judging by the other foods there, the restaurant was excellent.

    I didn’t like it - it tasted like liver, despite being muscle.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

  209. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    ...There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.
     
    But Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people. They say it is existential. Not at all like US draft dodging in Vietnam or even WW2.

    It doesn't add up: either people in Ukraine don't believe the Kiev rhetoric or they are resigned to losing. But there is clearly not mass enthusiasm to fight Russia.

    Replies: @AP

    …There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.

    But Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people

    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment. The Russians are being held, they are barely advancing. Places like Kiev are not close to being at risk of conquest. Ukraine needs workers, too.

    Slavs were at real existential risk (ultimately) of the Nazis, yet Czechs didn’t fight them and Slovaks even joined them. As did lots of Russians. Soviets had problems with deserters and even used blocking units to kill Soviets who might desert. So again, nothing unique about desertion.

    It doesn’t add up: either people in Ukraine don’t believe the Kiev rhetoric or they are resigned to losing. But there is clearly not mass enthusiasm to fight Russia.

    Last draft dodging rate for Ukraine I saw was around 30% – that is, 70% aren’t trying to dodge the draft. 30% is a lot but it’s still a minority.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Slavs were at real existential risk (ultimately) of the Nazis, yet Czechs didn’t fight them and Slovaks even joined them.
     
    What would you have done if you were a Czech or Slovak in March 1939? Simply refuse to obey Nazi diktats and thus watch your country get brutally crushed by the Nazis like it was by the Soviets in 1968, only much more bloodily? Blame the Anglo-French for not being willing to defend Czechoslovakia in either late 1938 or early 1939.

    I suspect that if Russia denuclearized and was at risk of being conquered by China and NATO was unwilling to directly fight China on Russia's behalf, then an awful lot of Russians, including Anatoly Karlin, would be quite willing to submit themselves to Chinese rule.

    Also, as a side note, had the West allowed the Nazis to conquer Eastern Europe unopposed, it could have been a huge headache for the Nazis for decades afterwards simply because attempting to deport tens of millions of people or more isn't exactly a very easy logistical undertaking. The Nazis could have had to deal with extremely massive unrest in Eastern Europe for decades to come afterwards in such a scenario, and attempting mass murder on a huge scale *in peacetime* might be too much even for the Nazis if they will still have semi-normal relations with the West and wish to preserve these relations. The Nazis were very brutal in peacetime but unlike the Soviets, they didn't engage in mass murder on anywhere near as extraordinarily massive of a scale as the Soviets did during peacetime. It was only during wartime that the Nazis became truly extraordinarily murderous.
    , @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people

    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment.
     

    That's a weird argument. So do you expect millions of Ukie men rush to fight the Russian if it looks like the war is lost? Will they leave Europe and go back to fight?

    It's nonsense. If they would see it as an existential fight that must be won - as Macron says - they would fight now. Not wait until later when it will be harder and too late.


    dodging rate for Ukraine I saw was around 30%
     
    It seems higher, there are millions who left the country. Given the situation 30% is high. And don't forget that there are hundreds of thousands of Russian Ukies fighting against Kiev. Have you forgotten about the 'Ukie citizens' who started all of this in Crimea and Donbas? Why don't you include them? They literally joined the Russian side.

    Nazis...yet Czechs didn’t fight them and Slovaks even joined them.
     
    It was more complicated, you lie as always. After UK-France betrayed in 1938 and turned us over to Germany (Poles and Hungarians joined with the Nazis), we had no other choice how to survive. And we did, we even belatedly fought Germany in 1944. You are just envious that we managed so well after Anglos and Poles stabbed us in the back. The Poles didn't do so well - cosmic karma - they betrayed and were clobbered. It happens again and again to them, they are not very smart or honorable people.

    Replies: @AP

  210. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Soviets disintegrated as soon as dictatorial centre (communist) yoke has been defeated. These are precedent models for EU dictatorial centre, that keep it together, to fail in due time.

    No force will defeat the nationalistic feelings of each country in the union. Is not Ukraine such an example? Greece or Italy and others (UK reacted faster) will keep their borders sovereign much better then partying dimwits in Brussels.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    One can simultaneously be both a local European nationalist (such as, say, Polish or Italian or Czech or Ukrainian) and also be a Pan-European nationalist. I have no doubt that such people would want the EU to do a better job of defending and securing its own borders, but at the same time, I also don’t think that such people would have that much objections to free movement within the EU. As an Austrian nationalist on one forum a while back told me, he has no problem with other Europeans, especially but not only former Austro-Hungarian imperial subject peoples, immigrating to Austria. Rather, what he has a problem with are people who lack any connection to or appreciation for Western culture immigrating to Austria. I suspect that there are a lot of European nationalists with such views.

    For that matter, this is just a hunch, but I suspect that the people who voted for Brexit had a much bigger beef with, say, Muslims than with Hindus or East Asians or Vietnamese or Filipinos or maybe even elite blacks.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    Euro-nationalism is built into our local nationalisms, it is a given. The distinction between "elite" Afros and other migrating Third Worlders is not significant. 'Elite' comes with non-elite - that's the way chain-migration works. Peoples philosophies are fluid and change over time - why would swarthy Indians be welcomed no matter what 'faith' they say they profess? It is about the numbers: they will swamp Europe at this rate.

    The Third World elites would all like to migrate to Europe (and a few other places). They are not coming to work. They add nothing, they corrupt our lives, and they inevitably bring along mass of their co-patriots. It is also very bad for the Third World - only a place to steal and then leave.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  211. @AP
    @Beckow


    …There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.

    But Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people
     
    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment. The Russians are being held, they are barely advancing. Places like Kiev are not close to being at risk of conquest. Ukraine needs workers, too.

    Slavs were at real existential risk (ultimately) of the Nazis, yet Czechs didn't fight them and Slovaks even joined them. As did lots of Russians. Soviets had problems with deserters and even used blocking units to kill Soviets who might desert. So again, nothing unique about desertion.

    It doesn’t add up: either people in Ukraine don’t believe the Kiev rhetoric or they are resigned to losing. But there is clearly not mass enthusiasm to fight Russia.
     
    Last draft dodging rate for Ukraine I saw was around 30% - that is, 70% aren't trying to dodge the draft. 30% is a lot but it's still a minority.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    Slavs were at real existential risk (ultimately) of the Nazis, yet Czechs didn’t fight them and Slovaks even joined them.

    What would you have done if you were a Czech or Slovak in March 1939? Simply refuse to obey Nazi diktats and thus watch your country get brutally crushed by the Nazis like it was by the Soviets in 1968, only much more bloodily? Blame the Anglo-French for not being willing to defend Czechoslovakia in either late 1938 or early 1939.

    I suspect that if Russia denuclearized and was at risk of being conquered by China and NATO was unwilling to directly fight China on Russia’s behalf, then an awful lot of Russians, including Anatoly Karlin, would be quite willing to submit themselves to Chinese rule.

    Also, as a side note, had the West allowed the Nazis to conquer Eastern Europe unopposed, it could have been a huge headache for the Nazis for decades afterwards simply because attempting to deport tens of millions of people or more isn’t exactly a very easy logistical undertaking. The Nazis could have had to deal with extremely massive unrest in Eastern Europe for decades to come afterwards in such a scenario, and attempting mass murder on a huge scale *in peacetime* might be too much even for the Nazis if they will still have semi-normal relations with the West and wish to preserve these relations. The Nazis were very brutal in peacetime but unlike the Soviets, they didn’t engage in mass murder on anywhere near as extraordinarily massive of a scale as the Soviets did during peacetime. It was only during wartime that the Nazis became truly extraordinarily murderous.

  212. @LatW
    @songbird


    I have always found it puzzling how long the USSR persisted whaling. (1987). You would think that they would be very tuned into the Western intelligentsia, and very concerned about perceptions regarding these big charismatic animals.
     
    They would not have cared enough because the general populations did not have direct contact. So there was no space for comparing or "shaming", all that stuff started only after 1991. And at that moment the Americans were very amicable towards the Russians. The Norwegian environmental groups came in a bit later and did not have much influence and, afaik, they were mostly concerned with the contamination from the nuclear subs (and human rights, but that was later).

    Btw, the sperm whale in Russian is called kashalot - probably comes from French. In the Euro languages (including my language), the root is "val".

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means "whitey".

    Don't recall any Soviet menus containing whale. I've had whale once, in Norway, I need to look up what type it was, it was near Narvik, and they had a very scarce menu there, but they did have something called "the val burger" (the whale burger), and also "the elk burger" - but that one is more common. It was a nice restaurant with not much on its menu, but there was whale.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    How did the restaurant whale taste in Norway? Do you remember?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    I ate Minke whale once in Norway. The restaurant was out of reindeer which I wanted to try. The whale was decent and I recall it had a rich flavor which I associate with fatty meat. I have mixed feelings about eating it. Minkes were not scarce, but they are whales. I still owe the whales a favor.

    Swordfish can be really good if it is not overcooked. Considering the parasites in big fish, maybe it is OK if they over cook it. Long ago I had swordfish which was especially good, in fact I decided I never needed to order it again. Sometimes I break down and order it at a good place on the slim chance I will not be disappointed. I think the odds of getting swordfish which is good versus totally indifferent are one in four.

    , @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    How did the restaurant whale taste in Norway? Do you remember?
     
    Don't remember the taste very well, but I did like it, especially the texture (it was more tender than beef). It has a distinct dark red color (brown when cooked but still dark red inside). Everything that is dark red and gamey is really good, imo. But I also love halibut.
    , @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    With halibut though - I will mostly eat it at a restaurant (and not too often as it can be pricey) because they will cook it the right way, for the right time, I don't want to cook it the wrong way and mess up a whole fillet of halibut (unless it's just searing a small piece for a sandwich). Although it should be ok being cooked for just a few minutes (I just don't want it to become dry, it has to be soft and flakey).

  213. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    How did the restaurant whale taste in Norway? Do you remember?

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @LatW

    I ate Minke whale once in Norway. The restaurant was out of reindeer which I wanted to try. The whale was decent and I recall it had a rich flavor which I associate with fatty meat. I have mixed feelings about eating it. Minkes were not scarce, but they are whales. I still owe the whales a favor.

    Swordfish can be really good if it is not overcooked. Considering the parasites in big fish, maybe it is OK if they over cook it. Long ago I had swordfish which was especially good, in fact I decided I never needed to order it again. Sometimes I break down and order it at a good place on the slim chance I will not be disappointed. I think the odds of getting swordfish which is good versus totally indifferent are one in four.

  214. @LatW
    @songbird


    Now, there are Indians in Guyana or somewhere jumping on the bandwagon and demanding free stuff for being descended from indentured servants.
     
    Did that just happen because that's the country that was just almost invaded or because they jumped the North America bandwagon?

    Basques began hunting right whales in the 11th century and continued for several hundred years. I think there probably weren’t very many left in the North Atlantic (considered a separate species) at the time whaling in America took off.
     

    In the historical perspective and purely from the natural, low technological human existence POV, whaling is ok - it's just a form of hunting. It's organic with the environment. But it is somewhat brutal especially with growing cities.

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group. But the more idiosyncratic the joke, the funnier, IMO.
     
    Yes, it was pretty funny, they should be taught a lesson. :)


    Btw, there was a huge whaling scandal in the Faroe Islands not too long ago. Back then I sided with the Faroese because this was their indigenous food source (and apparently still is - I do believe that because it's hard to transport food that far north) and because I liked the band Tyr, who sided with the whalers. They hunt (hack, I guess you can say, lol) the pilot whale, not sure if it's extinct.

    At that time there was a crazy pirate-like environmentalist group who used to annoy everybody. Remember it annoyed the hell out of me as well, but now that I encountered real orcas, I'm having second thoughts about this. Btw, it turned out that the English actor Clive Standen who played Rollo in The Vikings series got on board with this group, too, even wearing their T-shirt. It surprised me because I felt that he should've sided with the "vikings" but it turned out that he is super humane (unlike the character he played).


    But if own took the support of weight alone, maybe it would be a help, as certain people believe that being in space or on Mars would be an advantage, due to the weaker gravity.
     
    There is this thing out there called the float tank - it's a kind of a spa treatment for stress relief, a sensual deprivation tank. But it might be different than the whale experience where you do hear sounds. Would be awesome to float in a tank with whale sounds playing. It is dark.

    Replies: @songbird, @S1

    Did that just happen because that’s the country that was just almost invaded or because they jumped the North America bandwagon?

    This was the article mentioning Indians.
    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/03/caribbean-countries-say-uk-must-pay-reparations-for-indentured-labour/

    I get the vague impression that some Anglo-Indian writers are still very popular in India, which I think might hint at a lack of real animus in many, beyond the convenient excuse for national unity.
    ______
    Have heard that false killers sometimes form pods with bottlenose.

  215. @songbird
    @Mikel


    Even the Anglo-Russians of the Muscovy Company expelled us from Spitsbergen

     

    Wow, I had no idea Basques got up that way.

    IMO, it is very likely that right whales have been hunted since at least the Neolithic.

    There was a study in 2018, where they sequenced DNA found at a Roman fish-processing plant near Gibraltar and found right and gray whales.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180711093227.htm

    Perhaps, they merely were beached there. But there were some very old petroglyphs found in Korea. And nearby there were whalebones.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangudae_Petroglyphs

    Withal though, if Romans were hunting whales, I am surprised it didn't have a more transformative effect. Perhaps, they weren't deepwater hunting and that was key.

    Replies: @Mikel

    I don’t really know much about whales but my understanding is that it used to be a sea shore hunting business. Only when the littoral specimens became scarce they started hunting them in the high seas, ever further away.

    I descend from sailors on one side of my family, in all likelihood whale hunters or cod fishermen in the North Atlantic, so any talk of whale reparations makes me feel uneasy.

    However, one shouldn’t judge these poor souls too harshly. The replicas I’ve seen of the ships they used to sail to Canada and the Arctic make you feel respect for these people. Spending weeks on end in those icy, stormy waters on those rudimentary nutshells was surely not for the faint hearted.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mikel

    It is pretty cool how they used to have those towers on hills or mountains to spot the whales and then send some sort of signal (like smoke or blowing a horn), though I imagine they would have served a duel purpose, the other being to look out for raiders.

    I also descend from a few fisherfolk, but feel immune to such claims, as I think a currach would have either broken apart or rolled over, if anyone had tried to tie a whale to it. (Though, I suppose there must have also been other boats in the Middle Ages, when there were more trees.)

    I have always admired the faith of fishermen and enjoyed reading about their travails. It must have been really unpleasant to even be in the British navy until recently. A lot of the men became afflicted with rheumatism from the cold and wet conditions - and that is how they originally connected it to the weather. This guy's story is pretty inspiring (he became blind, after a rheumatic attack):

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Holman

    Replies: @Mikel

  216. @songbird
    @LatW


    Don’t recall any Soviet menus containing whale.
     
    not necessarily accurate, but I have imagined it in a can.

    The biggest thing from the ocean I have ever eaten is swordfish. It was okay. But probably not worth the price and the mercury or other chemicals. I am happy eating relatively small fish. I feel like whale probably would not taste good, as it is something the Japanese eat and they eat a lot of weird stuff.

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means “whitey”.
     
    I am big fan of the beluga. It seems such a funny-looking and friendly creature. They say one once saved the life of a diver in trouble by biting the leg and bringing the person to the surface - like the reverse of a killer orca.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/1ldqX8spIww?si=bgrHDr_ixiIq0CKH

    The fact that they are white reminds me of the white "eyespots" on orcas. They are an interesting mystery. I suspect that they are there for social cues - they remind me of the black patchwork that was painted on certain rockets to help measure if they started to roll.

    But it would be pretty cool of they were some kind of camouflage to protect their eyes from some extinct creature or something.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    I feel like whale probably would not taste good

    I’ve never tried it but Basque fishermen to this day call sea mammal meat “txitxia”, meaning animal meat. A small boat fisherman once told me about what life is like out in the high seas. Guess what they do when they find a dolphin entangled in their nets.

  217. @songbird
    @LatW


    Don’t recall any Soviet menus containing whale.
     
    not necessarily accurate, but I have imagined it in a can.

    The biggest thing from the ocean I have ever eaten is swordfish. It was okay. But probably not worth the price and the mercury or other chemicals. I am happy eating relatively small fish. I feel like whale probably would not taste good, as it is something the Japanese eat and they eat a lot of weird stuff.

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means “whitey”.
     
    I am big fan of the beluga. It seems such a funny-looking and friendly creature. They say one once saved the life of a diver in trouble by biting the leg and bringing the person to the surface - like the reverse of a killer orca.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/1ldqX8spIww?si=bgrHDr_ixiIq0CKH

    The fact that they are white reminds me of the white "eyespots" on orcas. They are an interesting mystery. I suspect that they are there for social cues - they remind me of the black patchwork that was painted on certain rockets to help measure if they started to roll.

    But it would be pretty cool of they were some kind of camouflage to protect their eyes from some extinct creature or something.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    Plesiosaurus fossils are supposedly the dragon remains that became the legend according to Hutton.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I remember reading about Nessy when I was 10 or 11, and the author gave the oh-so-neat theory that the weight of the glaciers had lowered Scotland so that Loch Ness connected with the ocean, and when they had melted the land rose again, trapping the creature inside.

    I understand that Lake Champlain (with its similar legend) was once connected to the ocean and one can find beluga fossils in Vermont.

    But I think inbreeding depression would be a serious issue, in such a case. Parthenogenesis itself doesn't really work too well, but typically results in creatures with short lifespans.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard


  218. Ramirez is sympathetic towards Ukraine’s needs. The road sign showing the Baltics is telling too.

  219. Egypt actually has a pretty strong smart fraction:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2023/01/smart-fraction-theory-vindicated/

    “The countries with the best performing tails (again, relative to their mean) are:”

    Egypt’s cognitive elites are its Coptic Christians, who are smarter than Muslim Egyptians are and who make up up to 10% of Egypt’s total population:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/explaining-coptic-success/

    They might have also possibly entered the demographic transition earlier than Muslim Egyptians did and thus could see a breeder effect emerge before Muslim Egyptians would.

    BTW, why exactly should the West invite non-culturally-compatible low-human capital people into the West? It seems like the worst of all worlds for Westerners. I don’t believe that net global welfare should be the only relevant factor here since I still remain a mild/moderate Western chauvinist at heart (due to the West being a huge success story over the last several centuries).

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ


    BTW, why exactly should the West invite non-culturally-compatible low-human capital people into the West?
     
    By the West if you mean the US, these people are easy to manipulate by the DNC that has in effect purchased a large and loyal voting block.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    According to the data here, Egypt actually has a slightly smarter top 5% (IQ 106) than Vietnam (IQ 104):

    https://osf.io/y8r4s

    Egypt's and Vietnam's top 5% are also toughly as smart as Chile's and Thailand's top 5% are and only slightly duller than Romania's top 5% are. They beat out the top 5% of Mexico, Brazil, Albania, and Argentina as well and are almost equal to Armenia's top 5%.

  220. @Mr. XYZ
    https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1767990487044985208?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Egypt actually has a pretty strong smart fraction:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2023/01/smart-fraction-theory-vindicated/

    "The countries with the best performing tails (again, relative to their mean) are:"

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Screenshot-from-2023-01-08-15-01-32.png

    Egypt's cognitive elites are its Coptic Christians, who are smarter than Muslim Egyptians are and who make up up to 10% of Egypt's total population:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/explaining-coptic-success/

    They might have also possibly entered the demographic transition earlier than Muslim Egyptians did and thus could see a breeder effect emerge before Muslim Egyptians would.

    BTW, why exactly should the West invite non-culturally-compatible low-human capital people into the West? It seems like the worst of all worlds for Westerners. I don't believe that net global welfare should be the only relevant factor here since I still remain a mild/moderate Western chauvinist at heart (due to the West being a huge success story over the last several centuries).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, why exactly should the West invite non-culturally-compatible low-human capital people into the West?

    By the West if you mean the US, these people are easy to manipulate by the DNC that has in effect purchased a large and loyal voting block.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. Hack

    I'm specifically NOT talking about Latin Americans here, who are culturally compatible due to them being a (peripheral) part of Western civilization for half a millennium by now. Nor am I talking about the Asian immigrants whom the US gets and who are often high-IQ and thus certainly culturally compatible, certainly enough for a lot of US white men to seek out cute Asian waifus.

  221. @Mr. XYZ
    https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1767990487044985208?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Egypt actually has a pretty strong smart fraction:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2023/01/smart-fraction-theory-vindicated/

    "The countries with the best performing tails (again, relative to their mean) are:"

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Screenshot-from-2023-01-08-15-01-32.png

    Egypt's cognitive elites are its Coptic Christians, who are smarter than Muslim Egyptians are and who make up up to 10% of Egypt's total population:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/explaining-coptic-success/

    They might have also possibly entered the demographic transition earlier than Muslim Egyptians did and thus could see a breeder effect emerge before Muslim Egyptians would.

    BTW, why exactly should the West invite non-culturally-compatible low-human capital people into the West? It seems like the worst of all worlds for Westerners. I don't believe that net global welfare should be the only relevant factor here since I still remain a mild/moderate Western chauvinist at heart (due to the West being a huge success story over the last several centuries).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    According to the data here, Egypt actually has a slightly smarter top 5% (IQ 106) than Vietnam (IQ 104):

    https://osf.io/y8r4s

    Egypt’s and Vietnam’s top 5% are also toughly as smart as Chile’s and Thailand’s top 5% are and only slightly duller than Romania’s top 5% are. They beat out the top 5% of Mexico, Brazil, Albania, and Argentina as well and are almost equal to Armenia’s top 5%.

  222. @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ


    BTW, why exactly should the West invite non-culturally-compatible low-human capital people into the West?
     
    By the West if you mean the US, these people are easy to manipulate by the DNC that has in effect purchased a large and loyal voting block.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I’m specifically NOT talking about Latin Americans here, who are culturally compatible due to them being a (peripheral) part of Western civilization for half a millennium by now. Nor am I talking about the Asian immigrants whom the US gets and who are often high-IQ and thus certainly culturally compatible, certainly enough for a lot of US white men to seek out cute Asian waifus.

  223. Russia defense expert Dara Massicot
    https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/amanpour/episodes/9d3d2f7e-8e21-11ee-b7ec-7728b73dc143

    What a pile of BS. “Russian war crimes” likely not worse than that of Israel and the Kiev regime. Contrary to what’s said, the Russian armed forces are stacked to provide regular rotations to ensure a well-rested military. The two-year Special Military Operation has better developed Russia’s fighting ability. Reminded of what has been said of the US military just before WW II, relative to how it became a far superior fighting force towards the end of that campaign. On the released prisoners’ bit, you can be sure that the recruited among that lot are carefully screened to serve the patriotic good of their nation, which can make for a better person. The liberal ideal of giving someone another chance can be selective.

  224. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Watch out, he is in great company Stalin, Napoleon, Deng.

    What great people.

    Stalin knew that Communism was a failure and still killed over 20 million people. He was the only European leader that trusted the word of Hitler in 1939 and we know how that went.

    Napolean fought for nearly 15 years and lost not only his European conquests but also huge overseas territories. He ended up on an island with nothing but his own thoughts. It has been suggested that France never recovered genetically from his wars. Meaning they killed too many brave and intelligent men. The Napoleonic wars started the trend where high level officers could be mowed down by idiots manning a cannon.

    Deng was just another Marxist loser. Really nothing to say about him.

    For some reason you are avoiding your dwarf Zelensky title.

    How many times do we have to explain this? Zelensky isn't hopelessly insecure about his height as he isn't 5'1 and doesn't wear special shoes. In Russia it is illegal to call Putin a dwarf.

    It also obviously bothers his bootlickers as they rush in to defend him. But not you of course.

    Just really sad that so many of you line up to defend a hopelessly insecure mass murdering dwarf. You must really have some serious resentment against the world. Most of his top defenders in the US/UK either have a criminal charge or have been accused. They are also mostly childless. Weirdly his top celebrity defenders have accusations of sexual harassment. The only exception is Steven Seagal who has been quiet since the invasion.

    Replies: @Derer

    Stalin was a great leader that was able to bring essentially a feudal Soviets to a world power that defeated mighty Germans and became a force at Yalta over the two sick visitors. No other leader would have accomplished this monumental task. His revolutionary methods, although ruthless, eventually paid off. The famine in Ukraine was carried out by Kaganovich and Khrushchev and the Siberian gulag by Yagoda and Beria.

    Napoleon achieved greatness by being essentially master of Europe. However his preoccupation with Josephine caused his downfall from one muddy battle.

    Deng was an architect of Chinese transformation to pseudo-market oriented economy…he was too old but he opened the gates for foreign investment in China.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Derer

    What "greatness" have you personally achieved, dipshit? That you cling so desperately to these pseudo-heroes?

    Or in the real world, would it be like Stalin's words - "no person, no problem"?

    Replies: @Derer

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Derer


    His revolutionary methods, although ruthless, eventually paid off.
     
    "paid off" exactly into what? Our blog professor here, seems to think that it wasn't such a grand idea or system after all, that the current system is much better than what preceded it:

    People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR.
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

  225. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Stalin was a great leader that was able to bring essentially a feudal Soviets to a world power that defeated mighty Germans and became a force at Yalta over the two sick visitors. No other leader would have accomplished this monumental task. His revolutionary methods, although ruthless, eventually paid off. The famine in Ukraine was carried out by Kaganovich and Khrushchev and the Siberian gulag by Yagoda and Beria.

    Napoleon achieved greatness by being essentially master of Europe. However his preoccupation with Josephine caused his downfall from one muddy battle.

    Deng was an architect of Chinese transformation to pseudo-market oriented economy...he was too old but he opened the gates for foreign investment in China.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    What “greatness” have you personally achieved, dipshit? That you cling so desperately to these pseudo-heroes?

    Or in the real world, would it be like Stalin’s words – “no person, no problem”?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @LatW

    What the fcuk is my personal achievement has to do with the discussed issue. Are you insane? If you are interested in art, my paintings sell for $3000 a piece, can you buy some? You can get a loan. You must be out of zemlianka by now.

    Replies: @LatW

  226. @LatW
    @songbird


    Now, there are Indians in Guyana or somewhere jumping on the bandwagon and demanding free stuff for being descended from indentured servants.
     
    Did that just happen because that's the country that was just almost invaded or because they jumped the North America bandwagon?

    Basques began hunting right whales in the 11th century and continued for several hundred years. I think there probably weren’t very many left in the North Atlantic (considered a separate species) at the time whaling in America took off.
     

    In the historical perspective and purely from the natural, low technological human existence POV, whaling is ok - it's just a form of hunting. It's organic with the environment. But it is somewhat brutal especially with growing cities.

    Of course, I am joking a bit by laying all the blame on one group. But the more idiosyncratic the joke, the funnier, IMO.
     
    Yes, it was pretty funny, they should be taught a lesson. :)


    Btw, there was a huge whaling scandal in the Faroe Islands not too long ago. Back then I sided with the Faroese because this was their indigenous food source (and apparently still is - I do believe that because it's hard to transport food that far north) and because I liked the band Tyr, who sided with the whalers. They hunt (hack, I guess you can say, lol) the pilot whale, not sure if it's extinct.

    At that time there was a crazy pirate-like environmentalist group who used to annoy everybody. Remember it annoyed the hell out of me as well, but now that I encountered real orcas, I'm having second thoughts about this. Btw, it turned out that the English actor Clive Standen who played Rollo in The Vikings series got on board with this group, too, even wearing their T-shirt. It surprised me because I felt that he should've sided with the "vikings" but it turned out that he is super humane (unlike the character he played).


    But if own took the support of weight alone, maybe it would be a help, as certain people believe that being in space or on Mars would be an advantage, due to the weaker gravity.
     
    There is this thing out there called the float tank - it's a kind of a spa treatment for stress relief, a sensual deprivation tank. But it might be different than the whale experience where you do hear sounds. Would be awesome to float in a tank with whale sounds playing. It is dark.

    Replies: @songbird, @S1

    I say that the whales are the only one deserving reparations..

    Okay, but in what form would these reparations be made and who should make them?

    Would it be in the form of guarantees made that there would be an increase in the whale food supply in their natural habitat, ie an increase of the whales favored tasty krill and plankton?

    As for responsibility, we already know from our trustworthy news organizations and history books about the Basques historically having 98 percent of the responsibility for the whale decimation 😉 , but, even so, should others help them out with these reparations? 🙂

    • Replies: @LatW
    @S1


    Okay, but in what form would these reparations be made and who should make them?
     
    Actually, I wasn't the one to make this suggestion - so should be addressed to songbird who might provide creative answers. 🙂

    Would it be in the form of guarantees made that there would be an increase in the whale food supply in their natural habitat, ie an increase of the whales favored tasty krill and plankton?
     

    I think it would need to be a multi-lateral treaty to provide security guarantees for some special whales, the reparations would come from the interest accrued on the Basque and maybe some Icelandic pension funds (the Macaw tribe should be excluded from responsibility indefinitely). To be paid out in krill currency during the whale female estrous (every 3-10 years). 🙂

    about the Basques historically having 98 percent of the responsibility for the whale decimation
     
    Oh my goodness, didn't know that, that's a lot of historical responsibility, that's a lot of krill! 😉 Do not forget to put this in school books in every country - every child should know about the Whalocost.

    Replies: @Mikel, @S1

  227. @songbird
    @LatW


    Don’t recall any Soviet menus containing whale.
     
    not necessarily accurate, but I have imagined it in a can.

    The biggest thing from the ocean I have ever eaten is swordfish. It was okay. But probably not worth the price and the mercury or other chemicals. I am happy eating relatively small fish. I feel like whale probably would not taste good, as it is something the Japanese eat and they eat a lot of weird stuff.

    Do you like the beluga whale? It means “whitey”.
     
    I am big fan of the beluga. It seems such a funny-looking and friendly creature. They say one once saved the life of a diver in trouble by biting the leg and bringing the person to the surface - like the reverse of a killer orca.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/1ldqX8spIww?si=bgrHDr_ixiIq0CKH

    The fact that they are white reminds me of the white "eyespots" on orcas. They are an interesting mystery. I suspect that they are there for social cues - they remind me of the black patchwork that was painted on certain rockets to help measure if they started to roll.

    But it would be pretty cool of they were some kind of camouflage to protect their eyes from some extinct creature or something.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    I tried seal steak in northern Quebec once. It was well prepared and judging by the other foods there, the restaurant was excellent.

    I didn’t like it – it tasted like liver, despite being muscle.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    I tried sausage made from whale meat in Japan. It was a lot cheaper than normal sausage, and there is good reason for that: it is weird-tasting and smells like fish. Pretty disgusting.

    Then again, I tried moose and elk steak in Sweden and found that it is no different from beef in terms of taste and texture.

    , @songbird
    @AP

    Seals are generally considered superior to beluga by the US Navy. Not sure if that includes for gustatory purposes.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_marine_mammal

    Russia might still use beluga. They are supposedly using dolphins to help guard the Kersk bridge.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  228. @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    What reform there will do any good for the Russians?
     
    From my POV, reforms in Russia should be good for Russians, reforms in the US should benefit Americans.

    I think the critical mistake of foreigners is that they view Russia through the prism of its SMO in Ukraine. SMO is not the main concern of the Russian populace or government, the development of Russia is. Russia is constantly changing. There are many construction mega-projects, as well as widespread ongoing construction everywhere in cities, including Moscow. I think Russia is changing in the right direction. Imports of food went way down, so now the food everywhere, including Moscow, is local, and therefore tasty. Of course, my life in the US dramatically reduced my standards: even unremarkable (by Russian standards) Russian food is immeasurably better than what you get in expensive restaurants in the US. Service is also superior, in eateries and in stores. Besides, in Russia you can have anything you want delivered to your apartment, from a loaf of bread to the choicest filet mignon. Industry is finally reviving. It produces many things that used to be imported, from medicines to airplanes. Russian made drugs of the same quality are several times cheaper than imported varieties, so they win the competition. I believe all these trends are good for the country. From my personal perspective I would say they need to put more effort into developing academic science, particularly experimental biology. But I don’t plan to work there, only to retire.

    The US is going down. I would say that it deteriorated in the last three years more than in the preceding thirty: everything libtards touch turns to shit. I believe that the US would benefit by curbing speculative finance sector and re-industrializing. Right now everything you find in stores is made in China, or, if you are lucky, in Vietnam, Philippines, Mexico, etc. That’s a shame. Big agro and food processing companies need to be curbed, better yet eliminated. They are responsible for the dismal quality of American food, which is the root cause of obesity epidemic (obesity causes diabetes, heart disease, and many other bad things). The US needs to spend many times less on the military, close its bases in >150 countries, and focus on the the country. American infrastructure is falling apart and needs massive investment. However, no reform in the US would be possible without dismantling current political system, which is rotten to the core. As this is not on the cards, I won’t hold my breath.This country needs a leader of Putin’s caliber. Instead, we are heading for the same choice as in 2020: a moron with Alzheimer’s or a moron without dementia. The first means four more years of rapid decline, the second means slower decline. This country needs to dramatically veer off from its suicidal course.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    These industrial strategies or changes are not political reforms. I mean Democracy, Autocracy, Freedom, Communism, Socialism, The Market, Conservativism. Big bold ideas type reform.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    I mean Democracy, Autocracy, Freedom, Communism, Socialism, The Market, Conservativism. Big bold ideas type reform.
     
    OK, let’s stick to these things.

    In terms of democracy the RF is way ahead of the US and all of its sidekicks. In sharp contrast to the US, most actions of the RF government coincide with the wishes of the populace. Putin is at the helm for so long because he has overwhelming support of the people. In the 2000s his popularity was largely determined by his bringing the country from the brink of collapse (engineered by imperial agents in the 1990s) and return to relative prosperity after abject poverty of normal non-thieving people in the 1990s. He reinforced his popularity by further increase in living standards in the last ~20 years, as well as by skilled maneuvers in the last ~15 years that ensured that geopolitically the RF punches way above its weight.

    In terms of freedom the RF is also way above the imperial patch. You find a variety of viewpoints on everything in the media, as compared to “unanimous” bullshitting of Western MSM, where “reports” are not only blatant lies, but appear to be copy-pasted from the same instructions, often verbatim.

    Communism/socialism/market. My impression is that today’s RF found a good balance between market and state regulation. Market works best when it comes to producing, delivering, and selling non-edible consumer goods and food, and that’s the niche it firmly occupies in the RF. Compared to the Soviet period, these areas improved dramatically. I get much better food and service in the RF than in the US or Europe. Market is totally unsuitable in healthcare, education, and production of military equipment and ammo. The US is a telling example of that: market regulation in these areas is destructive. In addition, “market” in these areas generates huge unfair profits, and the money thus generated corrupts the political system, creating a vicious cycle. All of these areas are largely state-controlled in the RF, as they should be from my POV in a healthy society.

    Conservatism. As a biologist, I know that there are only two genders in all mammals, male and female, although because of weakened natural selection humans accumulated lots of mental disorders. The RF government policy is in line with this view, which I find refreshing. Culturally, Russian society is more macho than I would like. It is not as arrogantly macho as Chinese or Latin American culture, though. My personal experience suggests that the only thing men can do and women can’t is peeing all over the fence while standing. BTW, Putin should be credited with changing Russian idea of macho: by personal example he showed that you can be macho w/o drinking too much or smoking. In contrast to the USSR and Russian empire before it in terms of alcohol consumption per capita the RF today is not even in the top ten countries. I think this is good. The RF government promotes normal family values and encourages having children, although not always very effectively. I am too old to believe in fairy tales, so from my POV religion is given too prominent role in today’s Russian society. The RF state treats all citizens equally regardless of their race and nationality. Again, this is in line with my views: I judge people exclusively by their personal merit. My best technician ever was a black girl from Cameroon, my best post-doc was a Chinese guy, among my three best graduate students two were white Americans and one was Chinese, etc. I believe that cavemen-level tribal nationalism would ruin the RF exactly like it ruined Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  229. God must have been dissaproving Kremlin’s wishes to freeze Europe, thus sent another relatively mild winter;)

    Europe is on track to end the winter with a record volume of gas in storage, which has pushed futures prices back to pre-crisis levels once inflation is taken into account.

    The supply picture has been transformed from two years ago, when traders and policymakers were worried about possible gas shortages following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

    Storage facilities across the European Union and the United Kingdom were 62% full on 5 March compared with an average of 41% full on the same date between 2011 and 2020.

    Inventories amounted to 707 terawatt-hours (TWh), which was 277 TWh (+64% or +2.14 standard deviations) above the prior ten-year seasonal average.

    The surplus had swelled from 167 TWh (+18% or +1.70 standard deviations) at the start of the winter heating season on 1 October.

    Winter 2023/24 has mostly been characterised by a strong positive North Atlantic Oscillation, directing strong westerly winds from across the Atlantic into Northwest Europe.

    Pressure differentials between the Greenland-Iceland low-pressure area and the Bermuda-Azores high-pressure area have been greater than normal, accelerating warm, moist air into Northwest Europe.

    The result has been higher temperatures and wind speeds than average, reducing heating demand and at the same time boosting wind generation, creating a double cut to gas consumption.

    So far this winter, heating demand has been 14% below the long-term average in London and 25% below the average at Frankfurt in Germany.

    Inventories are on track to end winter around 664 TWh, setting a record and beating previous highs of 629 TWh at the end of winter 2022/23 and 609 TWh at the end of winter 2019/20.

    Northwest Europe is about 80% through the heating season so any cold snaps are unlikely to make a significant difference to the outcome at this point.

    It is the region’s second mild winter in a row. Europe has been lucky as well as smart.

    High prices and government policies to reduce gas and electricity consumption have played a role averting shortages, but back-to-back mild winters have played a bigger role securing energy supplies.

    Since October 2023, futures prices have declined steadily to encourage more consumption and limit accumulation of excess inventories.

    Inflation-adjusted front-month futures prices fell to an average of just 26 euros ($28.40) per megawatt-hour in February down from 46 euros in October 2023 and a record 245 euros in August 2022.

    Front-month prices have reverted close to the pre-crisis ten-year average between 2011 and 2020 of €23 in real terms.

    Lower prices should eventually encourage energy-intensive manufacturing industries that idled plants in 2022 and 2023 to restart some of them.

    Major industrial users mostly hedge gas purchases in the forward market, where year-ahead prices have fallen to an average of around €30-31 per megawatt-hour so far in 2024.

    Year-ahead prices are not vastly higher than the pre-crisis average for 2011-2020 of €26 once adjusted for core inflation.

    It will take longer for the decline in wholesale costs to filter through to retail prices for gas and electricity but households and small businesses should see prices decline before winter 2024/25.

    Lower prices are already directing more liquefied natural gas cargoes to price-sensitive customers in East and South Asia that were unable or unwilling to compete with wealthier users in Europe during 2022/23.

    Prices need to fall far enough for long enough to purge some excess inventory and make room in the storage system for the accumulation of inventories during the summer of 2024.

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/europes-mild-winter-leaves-gas-stocks-at-record-high/

  230. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Plesiosaurus2.jpg

    Plesiosaurus fossils are supposedly the dragon remains that became the legend according to Hutton.

    Replies: @songbird

    I remember reading about Nessy when I was 10 or 11, and the author gave the oh-so-neat theory that the weight of the glaciers had lowered Scotland so that Loch Ness connected with the ocean, and when they had melted the land rose again, trapping the creature inside.

    I understand that Lake Champlain (with its similar legend) was once connected to the ocean and one can find beluga fossils in Vermont.

    But I think inbreeding depression would be a serious issue, in such a case. Parthenogenesis itself doesn’t really work too well, but typically results in creatures with short lifespans.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    When you see the Loch Ness monster that isn't a member of an extant group. What is happening there is the fairies open a time-space wormhole portal and you are looking at an animal who was quite real a hundred millions years ago.

    : )

  231. @Mikel
    @songbird

    I don't really know much about whales but my understanding is that it used to be a sea shore hunting business. Only when the littoral specimens became scarce they started hunting them in the high seas, ever further away.

    I descend from sailors on one side of my family, in all likelihood whale hunters or cod fishermen in the North Atlantic, so any talk of whale reparations makes me feel uneasy.

    However, one shouldn't judge these poor souls too harshly. The replicas I've seen of the ships they used to sail to Canada and the Arctic make you feel respect for these people. Spending weeks on end in those icy, stormy waters on those rudimentary nutshells was surely not for the faint hearted.

    Replies: @songbird

    It is pretty cool how they used to have those towers on hills or mountains to spot the whales and then send some sort of signal (like smoke or blowing a horn), though I imagine they would have served a duel purpose, the other being to look out for raiders.

    I also descend from a few fisherfolk, but feel immune to such claims, as I think a currach would have either broken apart or rolled over, if anyone had tried to tie a whale to it. (Though, I suppose there must have also been other boats in the Middle Ages, when there were more trees.)

    I have always admired the faith of fishermen and enjoyed reading about their travails. It must have been really unpleasant to even be in the British navy until recently. A lot of the men became afflicted with rheumatism from the cold and wet conditions – and that is how they originally connected it to the weather. This guy’s story is pretty inspiring (he became blind, after a rheumatic attack):

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Holman

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @songbird


    I have always admired the faith of fishermen and enjoyed reading about their travails.
     
    They used to be very religious people. They had to be, looking at death in the eye constantly. Even this modern fisherman that I befriended had his own spiritual leanings. He talked about listening to Pink Floyd at top volume alone in the sea with nothing but blue all around.

    What little I know about my seamen ancestors suggests that they were driven to the trade by economic necessity. They weren't even born on the coast (as far as I know) but in the interior valleys. Perhaps there was an adventurous element too, that could explain my own mountaineering tendencies. But I can't imagine myself embarking on those grueling expeditions. I'd rather volunteer to do the trail running to the whale lookout on the mountain every morning :-)
  232. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Stalin was a great leader that was able to bring essentially a feudal Soviets to a world power that defeated mighty Germans and became a force at Yalta over the two sick visitors. No other leader would have accomplished this monumental task. His revolutionary methods, although ruthless, eventually paid off. The famine in Ukraine was carried out by Kaganovich and Khrushchev and the Siberian gulag by Yagoda and Beria.

    Napoleon achieved greatness by being essentially master of Europe. However his preoccupation with Josephine caused his downfall from one muddy battle.

    Deng was an architect of Chinese transformation to pseudo-market oriented economy...he was too old but he opened the gates for foreign investment in China.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    His revolutionary methods, although ruthless, eventually paid off.

    “paid off” exactly into what? Our blog professor here, seems to think that it wasn’t such a grand idea or system after all, that the current system is much better than what preceded it:

    People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    The two are not mutually exclusive. Russia is better than pre-1990 as is most of the world - that's the way it works. But having a 70-year isolating interlude of commies-building-up-the-country paid-off.

    If Russia stayed inside the Western system after WW1 it would be a shadow of self - dismantled, controlled, owned by Anglos who were at their peak in the 20th century. Possibly even taken apart by the land-hungry Germany and its Euro allies.

    The occasionally unpleasant but effective commie isolation created an unmovable Russia with domestic elite that is explicitly pro-Russia. It would not have happened with the cousin-royals or the wide-eyed liberal pro-Western enthusiasts. It worked, I would only suggest to Russians not to do it again.

    More selfishly, it saved us in the Central Europe - we would not exist in a meaningful form without the stubborn existence of Russia. The Ukies would be gone - the commies created Ukieland. Poles, Czechs, Slovenians, etc...would be absorbed by their stronger Western neighbors.

    Good, it has worked. Now what? The Westies are throwing a hysterical temper-tantrum because we outplayed them. The last thing they have left are the morons in our midst - like the Ukies, what a f...ing show of self-destructive brown-nosing. It is like watching a Titanic - the main lesson is what not to do.

    , @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR.

     

    I agree with that. The issue is not about Soviet vs Russia but about Czarist poverty vs Soviets. Stalin died 70+ years ago and his legacy is making Soviets world power that provided foundation even for today Russia.

    Of course, after 75 years of communist tyranny Russia's attempt to improve their standard of living was constantly deter by the West's despicable impediments. Especially during 90's they kept kicking the wounded dog then concocted sanctions, criminal theft of assets etc. I have to cut this short.
  233. @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    One can simultaneously be both a local European nationalist (such as, say, Polish or Italian or Czech or Ukrainian) and also be a Pan-European nationalist. I have no doubt that such people would want the EU to do a better job of defending and securing its own borders, but at the same time, I also don't think that such people would have that much objections to free movement within the EU. As an Austrian nationalist on one forum a while back told me, he has no problem with other Europeans, especially but not only former Austro-Hungarian imperial subject peoples, immigrating to Austria. Rather, what he has a problem with are people who lack any connection to or appreciation for Western culture immigrating to Austria. I suspect that there are a lot of European nationalists with such views.

    For that matter, this is just a hunch, but I suspect that the people who voted for Brexit had a much bigger beef with, say, Muslims than with Hindus or East Asians or Vietnamese or Filipinos or maybe even elite blacks.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Euro-nationalism is built into our local nationalisms, it is a given. The distinction between “elite” Afros and other migrating Third Worlders is not significant. ‘Elite’ comes with non-elite – that’s the way chain-migration works. Peoples philosophies are fluid and change over time – why would swarthy Indians be welcomed no matter what ‘faith’ they say they profess? It is about the numbers: they will swamp Europe at this rate.

    The Third World elites would all like to migrate to Europe (and a few other places). They are not coming to work. They add nothing, they corrupt our lives, and they inevitably bring along mass of their co-patriots. It is also very bad for the Third World – only a place to steal and then leave.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    What's interesting is that here in the US, we still get mostly elite immigrants from outside of the Western Hemisphere even with a lot of chain migration. Maybe this will change in the future, but so far, the picture appears very good for immigrants to the US from the "Old World". I and my own family are an example of such immigrants to the US. We don't intend to sponsor any of our own close relatives into the US because none of them are actually interested in this. And also because we don't have that many super-close relatives. Both of my parents have just one surviving sibling, after all. (I had an uncle who died at the age of 40 and who had a daughter who previously died of meningitis as an infant, with him never having any additional children afterwards.)


    It is about the numbers: they will swamp Europe at this rate.
     
    Is a swarming an unequivocally bad thing, though? The Anglosphere is rapidly becoming swarmed with non-whites and partial whites, after all, and yet the Anglosphere does not appear to be going to Hell.

    The Third World elites would all like to migrate to Europe (and a few other places). They are not coming to work. They add nothing, they corrupt our lives, and they inevitably bring along mass of their co-patriots.
     
    If looking at this from a purely financial perspective, Yes, even non-Muslim immigrants to the West outside of the Anglosphere are likely a slight net loss. But AI advances should make this issue less relevant in the future. And wouldn't you enjoy seeing many more ethnic shops and ethnic restaurants?

    It is also very bad for the Third World – only a place to steal and then leave.
     
    Would Third World elites steal less if they were forced to stay in the Third World? If anything, they might steal more in order to ensure a good quality of life for themselves. In the West, it's harder to achieve a good quality of life through corruption due to better rule-of-law systems in the West relative to the Third World.

    BTW, off-topic, but do you believe that the EU or something very similar to it would have still eventually been created without one or both World Wars?

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Beckow

  234. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I remember reading about Nessy when I was 10 or 11, and the author gave the oh-so-neat theory that the weight of the glaciers had lowered Scotland so that Loch Ness connected with the ocean, and when they had melted the land rose again, trapping the creature inside.

    I understand that Lake Champlain (with its similar legend) was once connected to the ocean and one can find beluga fossils in Vermont.

    But I think inbreeding depression would be a serious issue, in such a case. Parthenogenesis itself doesn't really work too well, but typically results in creatures with short lifespans.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    When you see the Loch Ness monster that isn’t a member of an extant group. What is happening there is the fairies open a time-space wormhole portal and you are looking at an animal who was quite real a hundred millions years ago.

    : )

    • Agree: songbird
  235. @AP
    @Beckow


    …There is nothing unique about Ukrainian draft dodging.

    But Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people
     
    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment. The Russians are being held, they are barely advancing. Places like Kiev are not close to being at risk of conquest. Ukraine needs workers, too.

    Slavs were at real existential risk (ultimately) of the Nazis, yet Czechs didn't fight them and Slovaks even joined them. As did lots of Russians. Soviets had problems with deserters and even used blocking units to kill Soviets who might desert. So again, nothing unique about desertion.

    It doesn’t add up: either people in Ukraine don’t believe the Kiev rhetoric or they are resigned to losing. But there is clearly not mass enthusiasm to fight Russia.
     
    Last draft dodging rate for Ukraine I saw was around 30% - that is, 70% aren't trying to dodge the draft. 30% is a lot but it's still a minority.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    …Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people

    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment.

    That’s a weird argument. So do you expect millions of Ukie men rush to fight the Russian if it looks like the war is lost? Will they leave Europe and go back to fight?

    It’s nonsense. If they would see it as an existential fight that must be won – as Macron says – they would fight now. Not wait until later when it will be harder and too late.

    dodging rate for Ukraine I saw was around 30%

    It seems higher, there are millions who left the country. Given the situation 30% is high. And don’t forget that there are hundreds of thousands of Russian Ukies fighting against Kiev. Have you forgotten about the ‘Ukie citizens’ who started all of this in Crimea and Donbas? Why don’t you include them? They literally joined the Russian side.

    Nazis…yet Czechs didn’t fight them and Slovaks even joined them.

    It was more complicated, you lie as always. After UK-France betrayed in 1938 and turned us over to Germany (Poles and Hungarians joined with the Nazis), we had no other choice how to survive. And we did, we even belatedly fought Germany in 1944. You are just envious that we managed so well after Anglos and Poles stabbed us in the back. The Poles didn’t do so well – cosmic karma – they betrayed and were clobbered. It happens again and again to them, they are not very smart or honorable people.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people

    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment.


    That’s a weird argument. So do you expect millions of Ukie men rush to fight the Russian if it looks like the war is lost? Will they leave Europe and go back to fight?
     
    Existential and imminent are not the same thing.

    The Russian invasion presents an existential threat to Ukraine but the threat is not imminent- Russians are being held out in the East.

    Many men (and women) from places like Kiev or Lviv have volunteered to fight in the East; others have not but would fight if the Russians got to Kiev or wherever they live. A third category have fled the country.

    You only speak to people from the latter group, and have a twisted view of Ukrainian attitudes. It’s like someone only speaking to recent Russian exiles in Belgrade or wherever they have fled, and concluding that the Russian people hate Putin and oppose the war. Wishful thinking.

    And don’t forget that there are hundreds of thousands of Russian Ukies fighting against Kiev. Have you forgotten about the ‘Ukie citizens’ who started all of this in Crimea and Donbas?
     
    So you consider them to be Ukrainians? And are there hundreds of thousands of them?

    you lie as always. After UK-France betrayed in 1938 and turned us over to Germany (Poles and Hungarians joined with the Nazis)
     
    You lie as always about Poles, who took a piece of land that Nazis had coveted, against Nazi wishes. They operated independently of the Nazis, sparing ethnic Poles a year or so of Nazi rule. Are you too dumb to see the difference, or are you just pretending/deliberately being dishonest?

    The one actually joining with Nazis was Stalin. And Slovakia.

    we had no other choice how to survive. And we did, we even belatedly fought Germany in 1944
     
    You served both Hitler and Stalin. Congratulations.

    Btw the Hungarians have a long history of choosing the wrong side/losing. They are on Putin’s side now.
  236. @S1
    @LatW


    I say that the whales are the only one deserving reparations..
     
    Okay, but in what form would these reparations be made and who should make them?

    Would it be in the form of guarantees made that there would be an increase in the whale food supply in their natural habitat, ie an increase of the whales favored tasty krill and plankton?

    As for responsibility, we already know from our trustworthy news organizations and history books about the Basques historically having 98 percent of the responsibility for the whale decimation ;-) , but, even so, should others help them out with these reparations? :-)

    Replies: @LatW

    Okay, but in what form would these reparations be made and who should make them?

    Actually, I wasn’t the one to make this suggestion – so should be addressed to songbird who might provide creative answers. 🙂

    Would it be in the form of guarantees made that there would be an increase in the whale food supply in their natural habitat, ie an increase of the whales favored tasty krill and plankton?

    I think it would need to be a multi-lateral treaty to provide security guarantees for some special whales, the reparations would come from the interest accrued on the Basque and maybe some Icelandic pension funds (the Macaw tribe should be excluded from responsibility indefinitely). To be paid out in krill currency during the whale female estrous (every 3-10 years). 🙂

    about the Basques historically having 98 percent of the responsibility for the whale decimation

    Oh my goodness, didn’t know that, that’s a lot of historical responsibility, that’s a lot of krill! 😉 Do not forget to put this in school books in every country – every child should know about the Whalocost.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @Mikel
    @LatW


    every child should know about the Whalocost
     
    As I keep saying all the time, anyone responsible of atrocities against the innocent should be held accountable, regardless of where they occurred. So if it comes to whale reparations, I won't hide behind excuses to evade my own historical responsibility.

    But I'm sure we all here agree that the punishments should be applied with proportionality. How long ago did the atrocities happen? What did I personally do? Did I ignore the suffering of the innocent? Did I make excuses for the perpetrators or actually support them? Am I being selectively outraged by some atrocities but not by others, depending just on who carries them out? If we all agree with these principles, I'm willing to pay for my share of krill during the appropriate seasons.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @S1
    @LatW


    I think it would need to be a multi-lateral treaty to provide security guarantees for some special whales, the reparations would come from the interest accrued on the Basque and maybe some Icelandic pension funds (the Macaw tribe should be excluded from responsibility indefinitely). To be paid out in krill currency during the whale female estrous (every 3-10 years).

     

    That's pretty good and seems quite reasonable. Sounds like a plan.

    Do not forget to put this in school books in every country – every child should know about the Whalocost.
     
    Shhhh! You might give folks some ideas with that naughty suggestion. ;-)

    Actually, I wasn’t the one to make this suggestion – so should be addressed to songbird
     
    You're quite right! I actually thought I was responding to Songbird and had to double check your assertion just now. I don't know exactly how that occurred. Oh well.

    who might provide creative answers.
     
    He certainly would of, but you did just fine yourself in that department. :-)
  237. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I observed similar collapse of socialism
     
    I had similar experience in the USSR. I saw one empire dying, so I know the signs. Americans won’t believe me, but I see every sign of a dying empire now in the US. In fact, it’s sad: I invested a lot into this country, spent my most productive years here, did a lot to increase its scientific glory. So, it pains me to see libtards ruining it. Chances are, the downfall is already irreversible. Maybe a leader of Putin’s caliber could have saved the US, but I don’t see anyone who qualifies.

    Still, I will vote for Trump as a lesser of two evils, although I am not his fan at all. He is just better than the ruling libtard cabal. Some say that the US will become like Brazil. In fact, it will become a lot worse than Brazil, as Brazil evolved like that and had decades to adjust, whereas the US won’t have those decades. If current cabal remains in power after 2024, in 3-4 years the US will become an unlivable shithole.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @Beckow

    …every sign of a dying empire now in the US

    True, but life never repeats the same way, too many variables. More likely the Euro vassal-lands will bear the brunt. It is never good to be a controlled vassal of a declining empire. Euro leaders are running around like headless chickens. But the center can do quite well, even benefit from the vassals’ difficulties. It is a form of cannibalism.

    US will become like Brazil. In fact, it will become a lot worse than Brazil, as Brazil evolved like that and had decades to adjust

    The imported unauthentic Brazil-ness can be a lot worse than the authentic one in Brazil. It is the “Latinization” process, becoming like the Third World. Demography is destiny, people drive the culture, not vice-versa.

    The numbers are horrific: Africa is heading towards a billion people – 5-10% will manage to come to US, and billions in Asia-Latin America. US with above 500 million people will be an overcrowded sh..hole with miserable infrastructure, Third World cities, and even more corrupt government – the last one comes with the territory, we can already see it.

    At some point the ability to reverse it (or even control it) is gone, the new people take over and simply bring their own selfs and change the country. Given the poor quality of the previous elite (Clintons? Biden? Graham? McCain?) and the boomers selling their progeny (and country) it was inevitable.

    The funny one is the $34 trillion “debt” that it is based on – like a magical ‘god’ created during the good times, it was fed and sacrificed to until it exploded an acquired a life of its own. US can’t live with the debt, but can’t discard it, it grow into infinity at $1 trillion per quarter. It looks like they gave up.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    https://babylonbee.com/news/haitian-cannibal-gangs-pour-over-us-border-after-seeing-how-fat-americans-are

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    More likely the Euro vassal-lands will bear the brunt.
     
    I have no doubt that Europe will go down the drain a lot faster than the US. German industry is already successfully cannibalized by American competitors. But the direction is the same, and I don’t see any forces in the US capable of changing its suicidal course.
  238. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...every sign of a dying empire now in the US
     
    True, but life never repeats the same way, too many variables. More likely the Euro vassal-lands will bear the brunt. It is never good to be a controlled vassal of a declining empire. Euro leaders are running around like headless chickens. But the center can do quite well, even benefit from the vassals' difficulties. It is a form of cannibalism.

    US will become like Brazil. In fact, it will become a lot worse than Brazil, as Brazil evolved like that and had decades to adjust
     
    The imported unauthentic Brazil-ness can be a lot worse than the authentic one in Brazil. It is the "Latinization" process, becoming like the Third World. Demography is destiny, people drive the culture, not vice-versa.

    The numbers are horrific: Africa is heading towards a billion people - 5-10% will manage to come to US, and billions in Asia-Latin America. US with above 500 million people will be an overcrowded sh..hole with miserable infrastructure, Third World cities, and even more corrupt government - the last one comes with the territory, we can already see it.

    At some point the ability to reverse it (or even control it) is gone, the new people take over and simply bring their own selfs and change the country. Given the poor quality of the previous elite (Clintons? Biden? Graham? McCain?) and the boomers selling their progeny (and country) it was inevitable.

    The funny one is the $34 trillion "debt" that it is based on - like a magical 'god' created during the good times, it was fed and sacrificed to until it exploded an acquired a life of its own. US can't live with the debt, but can't discard it, it grow into infinity at $1 trillion per quarter. It looks like they gave up.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    • LOL: Beckow
  239. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer


    His revolutionary methods, although ruthless, eventually paid off.
     
    "paid off" exactly into what? Our blog professor here, seems to think that it wasn't such a grand idea or system after all, that the current system is much better than what preceded it:

    People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR.
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    The two are not mutually exclusive. Russia is better than pre-1990 as is most of the world – that’s the way it works. But having a 70-year isolating interlude of commies-building-up-the-country paid-off.

    If Russia stayed inside the Western system after WW1 it would be a shadow of self – dismantled, controlled, owned by Anglos who were at their peak in the 20th century. Possibly even taken apart by the land-hungry Germany and its Euro allies.

    The occasionally unpleasant but effective commie isolation created an unmovable Russia with domestic elite that is explicitly pro-Russia. It would not have happened with the cousin-royals or the wide-eyed liberal pro-Western enthusiasts. It worked, I would only suggest to Russians not to do it again.

    More selfishly, it saved us in the Central Europe – we would not exist in a meaningful form without the stubborn existence of Russia. The Ukies would be gone – the commies created Ukieland. Poles, Czechs, Slovenians, etc…would be absorbed by their stronger Western neighbors.

    Good, it has worked. Now what? The Westies are throwing a hysterical temper-tantrum because we outplayed them. The last thing they have left are the morons in our midst – like the Ukies, what a f…ing show of self-destructive brown-nosing. It is like watching a Titanic – the main lesson is what not to do.

  240. What can be done about Russian on Russian violence?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    What can be done about Russian on Russian violence?
     
    Leave it alone?...Encourage it....

    Loved the "man on the street's" endorsement of the new lada towards the end of the clip. He goes down a whole laundry list of things missing or wrong with the design and manufacture of this new "luxury" car. and explains how he'll fix these inputs once he buys one and save a few bucks too. I don't think that even Mike Averko would trade in his old Mercury Marquis and buy one after such a glowing endorsement! :-)

    Maybe Beckow who is so thoroughly sold on Russia and its greatness?

    Not AP, he's a stickler for high quality items.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  241. @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    These industrial strategies or changes are not political reforms. I mean Democracy, Autocracy, Freedom, Communism, Socialism, The Market, Conservativism. Big bold ideas type reform.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I mean Democracy, Autocracy, Freedom, Communism, Socialism, The Market, Conservativism. Big bold ideas type reform.

    OK, let’s stick to these things.

    In terms of democracy the RF is way ahead of the US and all of its sidekicks. In sharp contrast to the US, most actions of the RF government coincide with the wishes of the populace. Putin is at the helm for so long because he has overwhelming support of the people. In the 2000s his popularity was largely determined by his bringing the country from the brink of collapse (engineered by imperial agents in the 1990s) and return to relative prosperity after abject poverty of normal non-thieving people in the 1990s. He reinforced his popularity by further increase in living standards in the last ~20 years, as well as by skilled maneuvers in the last ~15 years that ensured that geopolitically the RF punches way above its weight.

    In terms of freedom the RF is also way above the imperial patch. You find a variety of viewpoints on everything in the media, as compared to “unanimous” bullshitting of Western MSM, where “reports” are not only blatant lies, but appear to be copy-pasted from the same instructions, often verbatim.

    Communism/socialism/market. My impression is that today’s RF found a good balance between market and state regulation. Market works best when it comes to producing, delivering, and selling non-edible consumer goods and food, and that’s the niche it firmly occupies in the RF. Compared to the Soviet period, these areas improved dramatically. I get much better food and service in the RF than in the US or Europe. Market is totally unsuitable in healthcare, education, and production of military equipment and ammo. The US is a telling example of that: market regulation in these areas is destructive. In addition, “market” in these areas generates huge unfair profits, and the money thus generated corrupts the political system, creating a vicious cycle. All of these areas are largely state-controlled in the RF, as they should be from my POV in a healthy society.

    Conservatism. As a biologist, I know that there are only two genders in all mammals, male and female, although because of weakened natural selection humans accumulated lots of mental disorders. The RF government policy is in line with this view, which I find refreshing. Culturally, Russian society is more macho than I would like. It is not as arrogantly macho as Chinese or Latin American culture, though. My personal experience suggests that the only thing men can do and women can’t is peeing all over the fence while standing. BTW, Putin should be credited with changing Russian idea of macho: by personal example he showed that you can be macho w/o drinking too much or smoking. In contrast to the USSR and Russian empire before it in terms of alcohol consumption per capita the RF today is not even in the top ten countries. I think this is good. The RF government promotes normal family values and encourages having children, although not always very effectively. I am too old to believe in fairy tales, so from my POV religion is given too prominent role in today’s Russian society. The RF state treats all citizens equally regardless of their race and nationality. Again, this is in line with my views: I judge people exclusively by their personal merit. My best technician ever was a black girl from Cameroon, my best post-doc was a Chinese guy, among my three best graduate students two were white Americans and one was Chinese, etc. I believe that cavemen-level tribal nationalism would ruin the RF exactly like it ruined Ukraine.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    My personal experience suggests that the only thing men can do and women can’t is peeing all over the fence while standing.

    Well that is modern gene denial. Gender brain differences were identified over 20 years ago. The show up in magnetic imaging scans. For certain type of problems the genders will approach them differently and certain traits are not equally distributed.

    BTW, Putin should be credited with changing Russian idea of macho: by personal example he showed that you can be macho w/o drinking too much or smoking.

    Russia is #2 for alcoholism:
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/alcoholism-by-country

    So you're wrong.

    Conservatism.

    Do tell what is conservative about the following:

    1. Zero individual rights (Putin can send you away to a penal colony at any time).
    2. Zero business rights (Putin can take a corporation and add it to his personal holdings)
    3. Zero gun rights (Hunting rifles are allowed in some cases but can be taken for any reason)
    4. Suppression of right-wing and conservative opposition
    5. State media censorship and suppression of independent media
    6. Censored internet
    7. No ability to criticize the government (Russians were arrested for holding blank signs)

    Please tell us which conservative philosopher from history would describe modern Russia as conservative.

    The RF government promotes normal family values and encourages having children, although not always very effectively.

    You do acknowledge that most Russian children have been aborted since Putin has been in office? And that Russia has negative population growth in direct relation to Putin's permissive abortion policies? What is conservative about allowing most children to be aborted?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  242. Big launch was impressive. At least, if they can do it again every 4-6 weeks, to work out the kinks. Still seems like far from a proven concept, without any kind of recovery.

    How many blacks are currently suing Musk? I forget the number but I want to say 2300 (but maybe that is too high?). I wish someone would create an infographic where they are stacked one on top of each other and maybe to the same width and compared with the dimensions of the rocket. 121m x 9m. Or maybe the cargo capacity to LEO. 100-150t (reusable)

  243. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...every sign of a dying empire now in the US
     
    True, but life never repeats the same way, too many variables. More likely the Euro vassal-lands will bear the brunt. It is never good to be a controlled vassal of a declining empire. Euro leaders are running around like headless chickens. But the center can do quite well, even benefit from the vassals' difficulties. It is a form of cannibalism.

    US will become like Brazil. In fact, it will become a lot worse than Brazil, as Brazil evolved like that and had decades to adjust
     
    The imported unauthentic Brazil-ness can be a lot worse than the authentic one in Brazil. It is the "Latinization" process, becoming like the Third World. Demography is destiny, people drive the culture, not vice-versa.

    The numbers are horrific: Africa is heading towards a billion people - 5-10% will manage to come to US, and billions in Asia-Latin America. US with above 500 million people will be an overcrowded sh..hole with miserable infrastructure, Third World cities, and even more corrupt government - the last one comes with the territory, we can already see it.

    At some point the ability to reverse it (or even control it) is gone, the new people take over and simply bring their own selfs and change the country. Given the poor quality of the previous elite (Clintons? Biden? Graham? McCain?) and the boomers selling their progeny (and country) it was inevitable.

    The funny one is the $34 trillion "debt" that it is based on - like a magical 'god' created during the good times, it was fed and sacrificed to until it exploded an acquired a life of its own. US can't live with the debt, but can't discard it, it grow into infinity at $1 trillion per quarter. It looks like they gave up.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    More likely the Euro vassal-lands will bear the brunt.

    I have no doubt that Europe will go down the drain a lot faster than the US. German industry is already successfully cannibalized by American competitors. But the direction is the same, and I don’t see any forces in the US capable of changing its suicidal course.

  244. @AP
    @songbird

    I tried seal steak in northern Quebec once. It was well prepared and judging by the other foods there, the restaurant was excellent.

    I didn’t like it - it tasted like liver, despite being muscle.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    I tried sausage made from whale meat in Japan. It was a lot cheaper than normal sausage, and there is good reason for that: it is weird-tasting and smells like fish. Pretty disgusting.

    Then again, I tried moose and elk steak in Sweden and found that it is no different from beef in terms of taste and texture.

    • Thanks: AP
  245. What are the red lines? w/ Lt. Col. Daniel Davis

  246. @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    I mean Democracy, Autocracy, Freedom, Communism, Socialism, The Market, Conservativism. Big bold ideas type reform.
     
    OK, let’s stick to these things.

    In terms of democracy the RF is way ahead of the US and all of its sidekicks. In sharp contrast to the US, most actions of the RF government coincide with the wishes of the populace. Putin is at the helm for so long because he has overwhelming support of the people. In the 2000s his popularity was largely determined by his bringing the country from the brink of collapse (engineered by imperial agents in the 1990s) and return to relative prosperity after abject poverty of normal non-thieving people in the 1990s. He reinforced his popularity by further increase in living standards in the last ~20 years, as well as by skilled maneuvers in the last ~15 years that ensured that geopolitically the RF punches way above its weight.

    In terms of freedom the RF is also way above the imperial patch. You find a variety of viewpoints on everything in the media, as compared to “unanimous” bullshitting of Western MSM, where “reports” are not only blatant lies, but appear to be copy-pasted from the same instructions, often verbatim.

    Communism/socialism/market. My impression is that today’s RF found a good balance between market and state regulation. Market works best when it comes to producing, delivering, and selling non-edible consumer goods and food, and that’s the niche it firmly occupies in the RF. Compared to the Soviet period, these areas improved dramatically. I get much better food and service in the RF than in the US or Europe. Market is totally unsuitable in healthcare, education, and production of military equipment and ammo. The US is a telling example of that: market regulation in these areas is destructive. In addition, “market” in these areas generates huge unfair profits, and the money thus generated corrupts the political system, creating a vicious cycle. All of these areas are largely state-controlled in the RF, as they should be from my POV in a healthy society.

    Conservatism. As a biologist, I know that there are only two genders in all mammals, male and female, although because of weakened natural selection humans accumulated lots of mental disorders. The RF government policy is in line with this view, which I find refreshing. Culturally, Russian society is more macho than I would like. It is not as arrogantly macho as Chinese or Latin American culture, though. My personal experience suggests that the only thing men can do and women can’t is peeing all over the fence while standing. BTW, Putin should be credited with changing Russian idea of macho: by personal example he showed that you can be macho w/o drinking too much or smoking. In contrast to the USSR and Russian empire before it in terms of alcohol consumption per capita the RF today is not even in the top ten countries. I think this is good. The RF government promotes normal family values and encourages having children, although not always very effectively. I am too old to believe in fairy tales, so from my POV religion is given too prominent role in today’s Russian society. The RF state treats all citizens equally regardless of their race and nationality. Again, this is in line with my views: I judge people exclusively by their personal merit. My best technician ever was a black girl from Cameroon, my best post-doc was a Chinese guy, among my three best graduate students two were white Americans and one was Chinese, etc. I believe that cavemen-level tribal nationalism would ruin the RF exactly like it ruined Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    My personal experience suggests that the only thing men can do and women can’t is peeing all over the fence while standing.

    Well that is modern gene denial. Gender brain differences were identified over 20 years ago. The show up in magnetic imaging scans. For certain type of problems the genders will approach them differently and certain traits are not equally distributed.

    BTW, Putin should be credited with changing Russian idea of macho: by personal example he showed that you can be macho w/o drinking too much or smoking.

    Russia is #2 for alcoholism:
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/alcoholism-by-country

    So you’re wrong.

    Conservatism.

    Do tell what is conservative about the following:

    1. Zero individual rights (Putin can send you away to a penal colony at any time).
    2. Zero business rights (Putin can take a corporation and add it to his personal holdings)
    3. Zero gun rights (Hunting rifles are allowed in some cases but can be taken for any reason)
    4. Suppression of right-wing and conservative opposition
    5. State media censorship and suppression of independent media
    6. Censored internet
    7. No ability to criticize the government (Russians were arrested for holding blank signs)

    Please tell us which conservative philosopher from history would describe modern Russia as conservative.

    The RF government promotes normal family values and encourages having children, although not always very effectively.

    You do acknowledge that most Russian children have been aborted since Putin has been in office? And that Russia has negative population growth in direct relation to Putin’s permissive abortion policies? What is conservative about allowing most children to be aborted?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    That’s a weird critique yet again.

    1. Individual Rights are liberalism.

    2. Business rights, whatever that means, are more associated with liberalism

    3. Russia is awash with Automatic firepower in private hands

    4. Suppression of CIA controlled irredentist nationalists. Probably a necessary evil.

    5. Whatever.

    6. It’s all censored.

    7. It’s all the same.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  247. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people

    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment.
     

    That's a weird argument. So do you expect millions of Ukie men rush to fight the Russian if it looks like the war is lost? Will they leave Europe and go back to fight?

    It's nonsense. If they would see it as an existential fight that must be won - as Macron says - they would fight now. Not wait until later when it will be harder and too late.


    dodging rate for Ukraine I saw was around 30%
     
    It seems higher, there are millions who left the country. Given the situation 30% is high. And don't forget that there are hundreds of thousands of Russian Ukies fighting against Kiev. Have you forgotten about the 'Ukie citizens' who started all of this in Crimea and Donbas? Why don't you include them? They literally joined the Russian side.

    Nazis...yet Czechs didn’t fight them and Slovaks even joined them.
     
    It was more complicated, you lie as always. After UK-France betrayed in 1938 and turned us over to Germany (Poles and Hungarians joined with the Nazis), we had no other choice how to survive. And we did, we even belatedly fought Germany in 1944. You are just envious that we managed so well after Anglos and Poles stabbed us in the back. The Poles didn't do so well - cosmic karma - they betrayed and were clobbered. It happens again and again to them, they are not very smart or honorable people.

    Replies: @AP

    Kiev claims that the war is about the very existence of Ukraine and Ukies as people

    Ultimately yes, but not at the moment.

    That’s a weird argument. So do you expect millions of Ukie men rush to fight the Russian if it looks like the war is lost? Will they leave Europe and go back to fight?

    Existential and imminent are not the same thing.

    The Russian invasion presents an existential threat to Ukraine but the threat is not imminent- Russians are being held out in the East.

    Many men (and women) from places like Kiev or Lviv have volunteered to fight in the East; others have not but would fight if the Russians got to Kiev or wherever they live. A third category have fled the country.

    You only speak to people from the latter group, and have a twisted view of Ukrainian attitudes. It’s like someone only speaking to recent Russian exiles in Belgrade or wherever they have fled, and concluding that the Russian people hate Putin and oppose the war. Wishful thinking.

    And don’t forget that there are hundreds of thousands of Russian Ukies fighting against Kiev. Have you forgotten about the ‘Ukie citizens’ who started all of this in Crimea and Donbas?

    So you consider them to be Ukrainians? And are there hundreds of thousands of them?

    you lie as always. After UK-France betrayed in 1938 and turned us over to Germany (Poles and Hungarians joined with the Nazis)

    You lie as always about Poles, who took a piece of land that Nazis had coveted, against Nazi wishes. They operated independently of the Nazis, sparing ethnic Poles a year or so of Nazi rule. Are you too dumb to see the difference, or are you just pretending/deliberately being dishonest?

    The one actually joining with Nazis was Stalin. And Slovakia.

    we had no other choice how to survive. And we did, we even belatedly fought Germany in 1944

    You served both Hitler and Stalin. Congratulations.

    Btw the Hungarians have a long history of choosing the wrong side/losing. They are on Putin’s side now.

  248. @songbird
    @Mikel

    It is pretty cool how they used to have those towers on hills or mountains to spot the whales and then send some sort of signal (like smoke or blowing a horn), though I imagine they would have served a duel purpose, the other being to look out for raiders.

    I also descend from a few fisherfolk, but feel immune to such claims, as I think a currach would have either broken apart or rolled over, if anyone had tried to tie a whale to it. (Though, I suppose there must have also been other boats in the Middle Ages, when there were more trees.)

    I have always admired the faith of fishermen and enjoyed reading about their travails. It must have been really unpleasant to even be in the British navy until recently. A lot of the men became afflicted with rheumatism from the cold and wet conditions - and that is how they originally connected it to the weather. This guy's story is pretty inspiring (he became blind, after a rheumatic attack):

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Holman

    Replies: @Mikel

    I have always admired the faith of fishermen and enjoyed reading about their travails.

    They used to be very religious people. They had to be, looking at death in the eye constantly. Even this modern fisherman that I befriended had his own spiritual leanings. He talked about listening to Pink Floyd at top volume alone in the sea with nothing but blue all around.

    What little I know about my seamen ancestors suggests that they were driven to the trade by economic necessity. They weren’t even born on the coast (as far as I know) but in the interior valleys. Perhaps there was an adventurous element too, that could explain my own mountaineering tendencies. But I can’t imagine myself embarking on those grueling expeditions. I’d rather volunteer to do the trail running to the whale lookout on the mountain every morning 🙂

    • Thanks: songbird
  249. @LatW
    @S1


    Okay, but in what form would these reparations be made and who should make them?
     
    Actually, I wasn't the one to make this suggestion - so should be addressed to songbird who might provide creative answers. 🙂

    Would it be in the form of guarantees made that there would be an increase in the whale food supply in their natural habitat, ie an increase of the whales favored tasty krill and plankton?
     

    I think it would need to be a multi-lateral treaty to provide security guarantees for some special whales, the reparations would come from the interest accrued on the Basque and maybe some Icelandic pension funds (the Macaw tribe should be excluded from responsibility indefinitely). To be paid out in krill currency during the whale female estrous (every 3-10 years). 🙂

    about the Basques historically having 98 percent of the responsibility for the whale decimation
     
    Oh my goodness, didn't know that, that's a lot of historical responsibility, that's a lot of krill! 😉 Do not forget to put this in school books in every country - every child should know about the Whalocost.

    Replies: @Mikel, @S1

    every child should know about the Whalocost

    As I keep saying all the time, anyone responsible of atrocities against the innocent should be held accountable, regardless of where they occurred. So if it comes to whale reparations, I won’t hide behind excuses to evade my own historical responsibility.

    But I’m sure we all here agree that the punishments should be applied with proportionality. How long ago did the atrocities happen? What did I personally do? Did I ignore the suffering of the innocent? Did I make excuses for the perpetrators or actually support them? Am I being selectively outraged by some atrocities but not by others, depending just on who carries them out? If we all agree with these principles, I’m willing to pay for my share of krill during the appropriate seasons.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mikel


    If we all agree with these principles, I’m willing to pay for my share of krill during the appropriate seasons.
     
    Of course, these are all valid questions. Some may even raise the issue of different kinds of whales fighting each other prior to human arrival (possibly for millennia, especially if one counts their paleo ancestors). After all, this is what some right-wingers from former colonial powers mention about the different tribes that they once encountered, subjugated or exploited ("oh, but they were slaughtering each other like crazy, look at the Algonquin" or "Look at the kings of Dahomey"). All voices should be heard (otherwise justice cannot be served).
  250. I wonder if the beluga who saved the diver in Harbin could have “seen” the cramp using its biosonar. Or some other physiological change.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/pTDG-gQcOxA?si=a8N9E7LjWekbQupA

    There is enough DNA evidence to confirm the Beluga – narwhal hybrid. Narluga. There were three in a pod, but they don’t know if they were fertile.

    https://www.livescience.com/65757-first-beluga-narwhal-hybrid.html

    20% of cetaceans are suspected of being able to hybridize, which is a similar percentage to birds. This is credited to their more recent split and a slower evolution in their environment, when compared to land-based mammals.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4775523/

    But I wonder if there is another explanation. Like water makes the mechanics of it easier, or the males make it with their own species and then the estrus of the next species happens in another, separate window of opportunity.

    Possibly it would increase, if they were sequestered together. Or we knew more about them.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_hybrid

  251. @LatW
    @Derer

    What "greatness" have you personally achieved, dipshit? That you cling so desperately to these pseudo-heroes?

    Or in the real world, would it be like Stalin's words - "no person, no problem"?

    Replies: @Derer

    What the fcuk is my personal achievement has to do with the discussed issue. Are you insane? If you are interested in art, my paintings sell for $3000 a piece, can you buy some? You can get a loan. You must be out of zemlianka by now.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Derer

    Dude, you suggested that Stalin was not personally responsible for the Holodomor and other atrocities. Just because he didn't like leaving his signature often, doesn't mean he was not in control of it all. All these newly built statues of Stalin in RusFed will have to go. They worship a mass murderer, that's why this invasion was possible. Decommunize finally.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  252. Seems as though the Inuit or Injuns hunted humpbacks, grays, and bowheads in skin boats. (Calves). Which I find really surprising. I would think that would be quite dangerous, if adults were around. But probably that is the way people did it in the Neolithic too.

  253. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer


    His revolutionary methods, although ruthless, eventually paid off.
     
    "paid off" exactly into what? Our blog professor here, seems to think that it wasn't such a grand idea or system after all, that the current system is much better than what preceded it:

    People in between, including me, are more skeptical and wouldn’t vote for any commie.

    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR.
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    My experience (33 years in the USSR and many 2-3-week visits to Russia in recent years) suggests that the RF today is immeasurable better than the USSR.

    I agree with that. The issue is not about Soviet vs Russia but about Czarist poverty vs Soviets. Stalin died 70+ years ago and his legacy is making Soviets world power that provided foundation even for today Russia.

    Of course, after 75 years of communist tyranny Russia’s attempt to improve their standard of living was constantly deter by the West’s despicable impediments. Especially during 90’s they kept kicking the wounded dog then concocted sanctions, criminal theft of assets etc. I have to cut this short.

  254. @Mikel
    @LatW


    every child should know about the Whalocost
     
    As I keep saying all the time, anyone responsible of atrocities against the innocent should be held accountable, regardless of where they occurred. So if it comes to whale reparations, I won't hide behind excuses to evade my own historical responsibility.

    But I'm sure we all here agree that the punishments should be applied with proportionality. How long ago did the atrocities happen? What did I personally do? Did I ignore the suffering of the innocent? Did I make excuses for the perpetrators or actually support them? Am I being selectively outraged by some atrocities but not by others, depending just on who carries them out? If we all agree with these principles, I'm willing to pay for my share of krill during the appropriate seasons.

    Replies: @LatW

    If we all agree with these principles, I’m willing to pay for my share of krill during the appropriate seasons.

    Of course, these are all valid questions. Some may even raise the issue of different kinds of whales fighting each other prior to human arrival (possibly for millennia, especially if one counts their paleo ancestors). After all, this is what some right-wingers from former colonial powers mention about the different tribes that they once encountered, subjugated or exploited (“oh, but they were slaughtering each other like crazy, look at the Algonquin” or “Look at the kings of Dahomey”). All voices should be heard (otherwise justice cannot be served).

  255. @AP
    @songbird

    I tried seal steak in northern Quebec once. It was well prepared and judging by the other foods there, the restaurant was excellent.

    I didn’t like it - it tasted like liver, despite being muscle.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    Seals are generally considered superior to beluga by the US Navy. Not sure if that includes for gustatory purposes.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_marine_mammal

    Russia might still use beluga. They are supposedly using dolphins to help guard the Kersk bridge.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb

    Replies: @songbird

  256. @Derer
    @LatW

    What the fcuk is my personal achievement has to do with the discussed issue. Are you insane? If you are interested in art, my paintings sell for $3000 a piece, can you buy some? You can get a loan. You must be out of zemlianka by now.

    Replies: @LatW

    Dude, you suggested that Stalin was not personally responsible for the Holodomor and other atrocities. Just because he didn’t like leaving his signature often, doesn’t mean he was not in control of it all. All these newly built statues of Stalin in RusFed will have to go. They worship a mass murderer, that’s why this invasion was possible. Decommunize finally.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    Lazar Kaganovich is the fellow who did it to the Ukies.

    A Ukrainian Jew.

    Even with Stalin he’s a Georgian!

  257. @LatW
    @Derer

    Dude, you suggested that Stalin was not personally responsible for the Holodomor and other atrocities. Just because he didn't like leaving his signature often, doesn't mean he was not in control of it all. All these newly built statues of Stalin in RusFed will have to go. They worship a mass murderer, that's why this invasion was possible. Decommunize finally.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Lazar Kaganovich is the fellow who did it to the Ukies.

    A Ukrainian Jew.

    Even with Stalin he’s a Georgian!

  258. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    My personal experience suggests that the only thing men can do and women can’t is peeing all over the fence while standing.

    Well that is modern gene denial. Gender brain differences were identified over 20 years ago. The show up in magnetic imaging scans. For certain type of problems the genders will approach them differently and certain traits are not equally distributed.

    BTW, Putin should be credited with changing Russian idea of macho: by personal example he showed that you can be macho w/o drinking too much or smoking.

    Russia is #2 for alcoholism:
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/alcoholism-by-country

    So you're wrong.

    Conservatism.

    Do tell what is conservative about the following:

    1. Zero individual rights (Putin can send you away to a penal colony at any time).
    2. Zero business rights (Putin can take a corporation and add it to his personal holdings)
    3. Zero gun rights (Hunting rifles are allowed in some cases but can be taken for any reason)
    4. Suppression of right-wing and conservative opposition
    5. State media censorship and suppression of independent media
    6. Censored internet
    7. No ability to criticize the government (Russians were arrested for holding blank signs)

    Please tell us which conservative philosopher from history would describe modern Russia as conservative.

    The RF government promotes normal family values and encourages having children, although not always very effectively.

    You do acknowledge that most Russian children have been aborted since Putin has been in office? And that Russia has negative population growth in direct relation to Putin's permissive abortion policies? What is conservative about allowing most children to be aborted?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    That’s a weird critique yet again.

    1. Individual Rights are liberalism.

    2. Business rights, whatever that means, are more associated with liberalism

    3. Russia is awash with Automatic firepower in private hands

    4. Suppression of CIA controlled irredentist nationalists. Probably a necessary evil.

    5. Whatever.

    6. It’s all censored.

    7. It’s all the same.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    That’s a weird critique yet again.

    It's only weird if you maintain an irrational tradcon fantasy view of Russia instead of discussing the tenants of conservatism and if they are valued in Russian government.

    Individual Rights are liberalism.

    Classic liberalism which is the basis of conservatism and not modern liberalism.

    Modern liberalism is left-light with a huge dose of anti-White ideology.

    Business rights, whatever that means, are more associated with liberalism

    Business rights predate both modern liberalism and conservatism.

    Russia is awash with Automatic firepower in private hands

    Is it legal to own a full auto AK-47 in Russia? Do tell.

    Mexico also has automatic weapons in the hands of criminals. That doesn't negate the fact that the country lacks gun rights.

    Stop being so intellectually dishonest. You line up to defend a dwarf that puts himself and his totalitarian state above any rights that you pretend to value. Admit it and move on.

    Suppression of CIA controlled irredentist nationalists. Probably a necessary evil.

    So Russian journalists that were sent to camps were all CIA funded nationalists? He has no real opposition? Is that what you are saying?

    It’s all censored.

    This is an uncensored forum and we post here. Russia bans opposition forums. People have been hauled away over social media posts. See: Former DPR leader Igor Girkin. Even a former pal of Putin isn't allowed to speak his mind. He was pro-war and yet they still hauled him away to a glass box.

    7. It’s all the same.

    You are saying that Americans get hauled away for holding up blank signs?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  259. @songbird
    @AP

    Seals are generally considered superior to beluga by the US Navy. Not sure if that includes for gustatory purposes.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_marine_mammal

    Russia might still use beluga. They are supposedly using dolphins to help guard the Kersk bridge.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    We have used the echolocation ability of two orders:
    -Cetacea
    -Chiroptera (bats, testing phase)

    We haven't used:
    -Eulipotyphla (for shrews, little potential here, I fear, as low abilities)
    -Swiftlets (too lazy to look up order)
    -oilbirds (too lazy to...)

    Birds have a lot of orders, compared to whales and bats.

    Replies: @LatW

  260. @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    The NYT number of 7x is a distortion of Shoigu's report to Putin that Rostec had increased production by 7x. Not the same thing at all.

    Rostec was in 5th place in Europe for shell production before the war. Going from a half shift to 4 shift working could increase potential production 7x but in the real world there would be recruitment and training time to consider. A brand new factory with access to European forging equipment and chemical processing capital equipment might be built in 18 months.

    The Europeans ahead of Rostec in production capability have prior commitments to orders placed before the war. They also use a 6 month settling down period before checking shell quality and adding fuses. So they weren't delivering until September last year. BAe Systems near me has expanded production lines at its shell filling plant without asking the local authority for permission. About 50% more capacity. It was single shift. Given a big enough order, it too can expand to maybe 4 times production. Then General Dynamics, Rheinmetall and NAMMO, all bigger in ammo than Rostec. NAMMO didn't have enough electrical supply to expand at its Norwegian plant as a data centre had been built at the end of the same power line spur. NAMMO has now transferred some equipment and personnel to a site in Sweden. Production is ramping up but there is the 6 month delay. The large reopened Bulgarian plant to make Soviet calibres is in the final stages of start up but QA of packed cases will mean that it is 6 months before their ammo is deliverable. The EU/NATO EUrope capacity is very large but it is not yet wholly available to Ukraine. The flow is increasing month by month though as other order obligations are worked off and the new capacity finally gets delivered.

    France was on the left foot. They are expanding capacity. Italy has minor capabilty. Serbia, Egypt, Pakistan are all selling to Ukraine. All seem to be using full QA so delivery is delayed.

    Russia might tolerate shell failure as their technique is area bombardment rather than precision targetting. Also delivery of any shells may have a priority than perfect shells. The new NATO production is going to its own armies and the older stock is being sent to NATO. So QA can't be skipped for NATO production. The US seems to have upped production at Scranton anyway.

    So in no more than 6 months, there will be a considerable increase in shell deliveries to Ukraine. Russia has already had its 1m shells (3m assumes all containers were filled with shells) from NK. Iran is a ? but not at the level of millions. Putin has until midsummer to acheive at least one war aim so that he can negotiate and claim victory.

    Replies: @QCIC, @sudden death

    German battle group in Lithuania will have its own local based production of ammo supply;)

    March 14, 2024

    Germany’s largest defence contractor Rheinmetall, which intends to significantly accelerate profit growth this year, is about to ramp up its production of artillery shells to 10 times the previously produced amount.

    Before the Ukraine war, around 70,000 shell were sold per year, but demand has now increased massively, Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger said on Thursday in Dusseldorf.

    With a view to the intended production capacities at the end of 2024, Papperger added: “We are talking about around 700,000 shells.” With a a new production in Germany and two planned plants in Ukraine and Lithuania, this figure is expected to rise to 1.1 million by 2027.

    Rheinmetall says it is the largest manufacturer of artillery ammunition in the Western world; its competitors include the Norwegian company Nammo.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/rheinmetall-ups-profit-ramps-production-174420960.html

    • Replies: @Derer
    @sudden death

    By 2027 Lithuania and Ukraine will be getting orders from the tsar Putin.

  261. Response to JJ from previous thread:

    The attacks on Kiev were never shock and awe. For the most part the lights stayed on, water flowed, people had food and fuel and most services continued to operate. The ongoing attacks are probably on Ukrainian military assets embedded next to civilians. Of course your videos do not acknowledge this; the people filming may not know and the information would be classified anyway. I imagine Russia has been delivering continuous limited attacks to keep the Ukie military on their toes. This also reminds civilians they will have to get rid of their sellout leaders at some point.

    Of course Russia delivered substantial missile strikes on Kiev at the beginning. It would not have been much of a feint without this. Remember, they sent a force too small to have any chance of suppressing Kiev. They did however send in serious missile barrages, an undersized but serious group of professional soldiers to attack an airfield and a large ground force. It soon became obvious that 1) Most critical infrastructure in Kiev was intact, 2) The ground force was poorly prepared. This sounds more like a feint than anything else. Dying in a feint is a bittersweet way to go, so don’t expect to hear the full story about this anytime soon. It cannot be discussed until the lost men can be seen as heroes.

    I think the Patriot Missiles are mostly there to keep bombers away. If Russia decides to get ugly they will destroy all the long-range air-defense sites using as many missiles and drones as required. Then they might use attack aircraft to clean up the mobile SAMs they missed. At that point they have the ability to use FABs on whatever needs to be leveled. They do not want to do this, but I believe it is possible. They have demonstrated the ability to build a lot of missiles. The missile barrages up to this point are not serious saturation attacks so they heavily favor Ukraine. Most people believe Russia will not do the shock and awe and I hope they are correct. On the other hand, this sort of attack is less extreme than resorting to nuclear weapons.

  262. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    That’s a weird critique yet again.

    1. Individual Rights are liberalism.

    2. Business rights, whatever that means, are more associated with liberalism

    3. Russia is awash with Automatic firepower in private hands

    4. Suppression of CIA controlled irredentist nationalists. Probably a necessary evil.

    5. Whatever.

    6. It’s all censored.

    7. It’s all the same.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    That’s a weird critique yet again.

    It’s only weird if you maintain an irrational tradcon fantasy view of Russia instead of discussing the tenants of conservatism and if they are valued in Russian government.

    Individual Rights are liberalism.

    Classic liberalism which is the basis of conservatism and not modern liberalism.

    Modern liberalism is left-light with a huge dose of anti-White ideology.

    Business rights, whatever that means, are more associated with liberalism

    Business rights predate both modern liberalism and conservatism.

    Russia is awash with Automatic firepower in private hands

    Is it legal to own a full auto AK-47 in Russia? Do tell.

    Mexico also has automatic weapons in the hands of criminals. That doesn’t negate the fact that the country lacks gun rights.

    Stop being so intellectually dishonest. You line up to defend a dwarf that puts himself and his totalitarian state above any rights that you pretend to value. Admit it and move on.

    Suppression of CIA controlled irredentist nationalists. Probably a necessary evil.

    So Russian journalists that were sent to camps were all CIA funded nationalists? He has no real opposition? Is that what you are saying?

    It’s all censored.

    This is an uncensored forum and we post here. Russia bans opposition forums. People have been hauled away over social media posts. See: Former DPR leader Igor Girkin. Even a former pal of Putin isn’t allowed to speak his mind. He was pro-war and yet they still hauled him away to a glass box.

    7. It’s all the same.

    You are saying that Americans get hauled away for holding up blank signs?

    • Agree: sudden death, Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Don’t forget…And furthermore, Moscow must be destroyed.

  263. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    How did the restaurant whale taste in Norway? Do you remember?

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @LatW

    How did the restaurant whale taste in Norway? Do you remember?

    Don’t remember the taste very well, but I did like it, especially the texture (it was more tender than beef). It has a distinct dark red color (brown when cooked but still dark red inside). Everything that is dark red and gamey is really good, imo. But I also love halibut.

  264. A123 says: • Website

    Is another blow coming for those persecuting Trump? (1)

    Robert Hur report and testimony is the biggest elephant in the room. The term “arbitrary enforcement” used frequently by both the defense and Judge Aileen Cannon.

    Cannon hammered the fact no former president or vice president has been charged under Espionage Act for taking and keeping classified records including national defense information–which represents 32 counts against Trump in Jack Smith’s indictment.

    Prediction: Cannon won’t dismiss the case based on the motions debated today–vagueness of Espionage Act and protection under the Presidential Records Act.

    But it’s very likely she will dismiss the case based on selective prosecution, a motion still pending before her.

    Gonzo phweet, reality denying, #NeverTrump zealots are comical.

    You keep Lying…
        We keep Laughing…

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ___________________

    (1) https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1768308069765701827.html

     

    • Replies: @A123
    @A123

    Update -- Persecution apparently stands.

    The judge did not dismiss the case despite overwhelming evidence. Very sad. Of course, this obvious miscarriage of justice will be appealed.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Derer

    , @A123
    @A123

    Update to the Update: (1)


    While many voices say this initial motion to dismiss failed, there are several indications the ruling was more about targeting the issue of statutory definitions to latter phases in the pre-trial legal process. Essentially, allowing the DOJ to try and square the circles that are seemingly un-squarable.

    Cannon is avoiding the trap of removal from the case by carefully and meticulously following a very routing process to allow the full sunlight of judicial consideration to apply at the moment when the interpretation has the greatest importance. Despite ruling against dismissal, this is not a loss for the Trump legal team as the issues behind the dismissal motion have not been rectified. These issues will surface again at more critical moments.

    If the Lawfare case is going to be dismissed in whole, as opposed to part by part, Julie Kelly was present in the court and also noticed that Judge Cannon appears to be positioning herself to dismiss the case on “selective prosecution” grounds.
     
    As I, and others, have discussed... The prosecution has created an unsolvable problem for itself. It must PROVE that the documents are still classified, and it eliminated the appointment of a Special Master. They now cannot prove one of the elements of their own accusation without giving the documents to the jury.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/14/judge-cannon-denies-for-now-the-trump-motion-to-dismiss-classified-documents-case/

    Replies: @sudden death

  265. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    How did the restaurant whale taste in Norway? Do you remember?

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @LatW

    [MORE]

    With halibut though – I will mostly eat it at a restaurant (and not too often as it can be pricey) because they will cook it the right way, for the right time, I don’t want to cook it the wrong way and mess up a whole fillet of halibut (unless it’s just searing a small piece for a sandwich). Although it should be ok being cooked for just a few minutes (I just don’t want it to become dry, it has to be soft and flakey).

  266. @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    That’s a weird critique yet again.

    It's only weird if you maintain an irrational tradcon fantasy view of Russia instead of discussing the tenants of conservatism and if they are valued in Russian government.

    Individual Rights are liberalism.

    Classic liberalism which is the basis of conservatism and not modern liberalism.

    Modern liberalism is left-light with a huge dose of anti-White ideology.

    Business rights, whatever that means, are more associated with liberalism

    Business rights predate both modern liberalism and conservatism.

    Russia is awash with Automatic firepower in private hands

    Is it legal to own a full auto AK-47 in Russia? Do tell.

    Mexico also has automatic weapons in the hands of criminals. That doesn't negate the fact that the country lacks gun rights.

    Stop being so intellectually dishonest. You line up to defend a dwarf that puts himself and his totalitarian state above any rights that you pretend to value. Admit it and move on.

    Suppression of CIA controlled irredentist nationalists. Probably a necessary evil.

    So Russian journalists that were sent to camps were all CIA funded nationalists? He has no real opposition? Is that what you are saying?

    It’s all censored.

    This is an uncensored forum and we post here. Russia bans opposition forums. People have been hauled away over social media posts. See: Former DPR leader Igor Girkin. Even a former pal of Putin isn't allowed to speak his mind. He was pro-war and yet they still hauled him away to a glass box.

    7. It’s all the same.

    You are saying that Americans get hauled away for holding up blank signs?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Don’t forget…And furthermore, Moscow must be destroyed.

  267. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb

    Replies: @songbird

    We have used the echolocation ability of two orders:
    -Cetacea
    -Chiroptera (bats, testing phase)

    We haven’t used:
    -Eulipotyphla (for shrews, little potential here, I fear, as low abilities)
    -Swiftlets (too lazy to look up order)
    -oilbirds (too lazy to…)

    Birds have a lot of orders, compared to whales and bats.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird

    Would you consider the beluga whale an albino? Probably not, because the eyes are not colorless or even light. I would still just consider it white. And, yes, they are so cute and friendly. The head is shaped in such a funny way - it almost looks irregular and weird, yet kind of perfect in its own way. They're such soft looking fatties. :)

    Replies: @songbird

  268. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    We have used the echolocation ability of two orders:
    -Cetacea
    -Chiroptera (bats, testing phase)

    We haven't used:
    -Eulipotyphla (for shrews, little potential here, I fear, as low abilities)
    -Swiftlets (too lazy to look up order)
    -oilbirds (too lazy to...)

    Birds have a lot of orders, compared to whales and bats.

    Replies: @LatW

    Would you consider the beluga whale an albino? Probably not, because the eyes are not colorless or even light. I would still just consider it white. And, yes, they are so cute and friendly. The head is shaped in such a funny way – it almost looks irregular and weird, yet kind of perfect in its own way. They’re such soft looking fatties. 🙂

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Would you consider the beluga whale an albino?
     
    it is somewhat evocative of one, esp. when it opens its pink mouth.

    They’re such soft looking fatties.
     
    Am thinking they must be one of the fattest whales by percentage. Because of that cold water and the fact they are (comparitively) small.

    Curious how they don't seem to get disorientated when one touches the "melon."

    I thought that Churchill would be a good place to exile corrupt Canadian pols like Trudeau, as it is cold and low-status (or the elites would think so) and the streets are haunted by polar bears. But then I heard it was called the "beluga capital of the world", which makes it sound not so bad. Perhaps, Baffin Island, where they did those Mars tests (IIRC) would be better.

    Replies: @songbird

  269. @A123
    Is another blow coming for those persecuting Trump? (1)

    Robert Hur report and testimony is the biggest elephant in the room. The term "arbitrary enforcement" used frequently by both the defense and Judge Aileen Cannon.

    Cannon hammered the fact no former president or vice president has been charged under Espionage Act for taking and keeping classified records including national defense information--which represents 32 counts against Trump in Jack Smith's indictment.

    Prediction: Cannon won't dismiss the case based on the motions debated today--vagueness of Espionage Act and protection under the Presidential Records Act.

    But it's very likely she will dismiss the case based on selective prosecution, a motion still pending before her.
     
    Gonzo phweet, reality denying, #NeverTrump zealots are comical.

    You keep Lying...
        We keep Laughing...


    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ___________________

    (1) https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1768308069765701827.html

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIyQ3zjkkXONkJas9tnl5sAu2kzf5L35QSrlVOm4Hk7-0Glac1wpH4QInTutzhZ3gu8QeI4dGIyFUKFdX-mSdxvIX1-RLAPSZPr6Yxj94eTKz9pV05pF_gOVJIQt0N9GWfGgh405LHJ9ZlshJtqByWJw8Ejsi7JxWJXbbgrVBRcH_qpnV6JUX_eVDgUG8/s497/90miles2dcdb1ae3d921f6379c73b64656084aa_c9ad8253_400.jpg

    Replies: @A123, @A123

    Update — Persecution apparently stands.

    The judge did not dismiss the case despite overwhelming evidence. Very sad. Of course, this obvious miscarriage of justice will be appealed.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Derer
    @A123

    The small d hyenas want to destroy Trump financially, there is no shame about the serious damages of the justice system that they have created. The parasites Clinton, Obama, Biden arrived in Washington poor and left millionaires...Trump arrived billionaire and will leave financially reduced. Trump underestimated Washington corrupted culture and surrounded himself with bad people. The second term he will be more careful.

  270. @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    Euro-nationalism is built into our local nationalisms, it is a given. The distinction between "elite" Afros and other migrating Third Worlders is not significant. 'Elite' comes with non-elite - that's the way chain-migration works. Peoples philosophies are fluid and change over time - why would swarthy Indians be welcomed no matter what 'faith' they say they profess? It is about the numbers: they will swamp Europe at this rate.

    The Third World elites would all like to migrate to Europe (and a few other places). They are not coming to work. They add nothing, they corrupt our lives, and they inevitably bring along mass of their co-patriots. It is also very bad for the Third World - only a place to steal and then leave.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    What’s interesting is that here in the US, we still get mostly elite immigrants from outside of the Western Hemisphere even with a lot of chain migration. Maybe this will change in the future, but so far, the picture appears very good for immigrants to the US from the “Old World”. I and my own family are an example of such immigrants to the US. We don’t intend to sponsor any of our own close relatives into the US because none of them are actually interested in this. And also because we don’t have that many super-close relatives. Both of my parents have just one surviving sibling, after all. (I had an uncle who died at the age of 40 and who had a daughter who previously died of meningitis as an infant, with him never having any additional children afterwards.)

    It is about the numbers: they will swamp Europe at this rate.

    Is a swarming an unequivocally bad thing, though? The Anglosphere is rapidly becoming swarmed with non-whites and partial whites, after all, and yet the Anglosphere does not appear to be going to Hell.

    The Third World elites would all like to migrate to Europe (and a few other places). They are not coming to work. They add nothing, they corrupt our lives, and they inevitably bring along mass of their co-patriots.

    If looking at this from a purely financial perspective, Yes, even non-Muslim immigrants to the West outside of the Anglosphere are likely a slight net loss. But AI advances should make this issue less relevant in the future. And wouldn’t you enjoy seeing many more ethnic shops and ethnic restaurants?

    It is also very bad for the Third World – only a place to steal and then leave.

    Would Third World elites steal less if they were forced to stay in the Third World? If anything, they might steal more in order to ensure a good quality of life for themselves. In the West, it’s harder to achieve a good quality of life through corruption due to better rule-of-law systems in the West relative to the Third World.

    BTW, off-topic, but do you believe that the EU or something very similar to it would have still eventually been created without one or both World Wars?

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Mr. XYZ


    But AI advances should make this issue less relevant in the future. And wouldn’t you enjoy seeing many more ethnic shops and ethnic restaurants?
     
    Is this meant seriously? In Europe the 'It is worth it for the restaurants' argument is usually understood more ironically.

    The Anglosphere is rapidly becoming swarmed with non-whites and partial whites, after all, and yet the Anglosphere does not appear to be going to Hell.
     
    In the UK at least the outlook about the future is not optimistic, especially among the young.

    Mr Bald, who became famous making Youtube videos about run down parts of India, Belarus and Moldova now finds good material for the same in Britain:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U0wQPMwvVc&t=1741s

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ


    ...EU or something very similar to it would have still eventually been created without one or both World Wars?
     
    Both World Wars were fought over the issue of who will control the Europe-wide super-state. Germany in 1940-44 actually had one - it was very much like EU. In 1805-12 France run the European superstate. Both attempts were defeated by Russia - the attempt to expand the Euro-state to Russia led to its defeat.

    It is always about who controls this "EU". After France and Germany were pushed aside, the Anglos took over. EU is an Anglo-run project with France-Germany as the local vassals put in charge.

    The Ukie war is another Euro quasi world war - it is an attempt by the Anglo-run Euro-superstate to expand to Ukraine and weaken Russia. It is very similar to the previous failed attempts. There was always enthusiasm for the new masters - in WW2 and under Napoleon. Lately in Ukraine on Maidan "we are European", as they march to self-destruction..

    The third attempt (at least) is failing again. These morons never learn. But maybe the real morons are the regional enthusiasts for these projects who always suffer the most.

    Replies: @AP

  271. @LatW
    @S1


    Okay, but in what form would these reparations be made and who should make them?
     
    Actually, I wasn't the one to make this suggestion - so should be addressed to songbird who might provide creative answers. 🙂

    Would it be in the form of guarantees made that there would be an increase in the whale food supply in their natural habitat, ie an increase of the whales favored tasty krill and plankton?
     

    I think it would need to be a multi-lateral treaty to provide security guarantees for some special whales, the reparations would come from the interest accrued on the Basque and maybe some Icelandic pension funds (the Macaw tribe should be excluded from responsibility indefinitely). To be paid out in krill currency during the whale female estrous (every 3-10 years). 🙂

    about the Basques historically having 98 percent of the responsibility for the whale decimation
     
    Oh my goodness, didn't know that, that's a lot of historical responsibility, that's a lot of krill! 😉 Do not forget to put this in school books in every country - every child should know about the Whalocost.

    Replies: @Mikel, @S1

    I think it would need to be a multi-lateral treaty to provide security guarantees for some special whales, the reparations would come from the interest accrued on the Basque and maybe some Icelandic pension funds (the Macaw tribe should be excluded from responsibility indefinitely). To be paid out in krill currency during the whale female estrous (every 3-10 years).

    That’s pretty good and seems quite reasonable. Sounds like a plan.

    Do not forget to put this in school books in every country – every child should know about the Whalocost.

    Shhhh! You might give folks some ideas with that naughty suggestion. 😉

    Actually, I wasn’t the one to make this suggestion – so should be addressed to songbird

    You’re quite right! I actually thought I was responding to Songbird and had to double check your assertion just now. I don’t know exactly how that occurred. Oh well.

    who might provide creative answers.

    He certainly would of, but you did just fine yourself in that department. 🙂

  272. @LatW
    @songbird

    Would you consider the beluga whale an albino? Probably not, because the eyes are not colorless or even light. I would still just consider it white. And, yes, they are so cute and friendly. The head is shaped in such a funny way - it almost looks irregular and weird, yet kind of perfect in its own way. They're such soft looking fatties. :)

    Replies: @songbird

    Would you consider the beluga whale an albino?

    it is somewhat evocative of one, esp. when it opens its pink mouth.

    They’re such soft looking fatties.

    Am thinking they must be one of the fattest whales by percentage. Because of that cold water and the fact they are (comparitively) small.

    Curious how they don’t seem to get disorientated when one touches the “melon.”

    I thought that Churchill would be a good place to exile corrupt Canadian pols like Trudeau, as it is cold and low-status (or the elites would think so) and the streets are haunted by polar bears. But then I heard it was called the “beluga capital of the world”, which makes it sound not so bad. Perhaps, Baffin Island, where they did those Mars tests (IIRC) would be better.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    Whoops! Meant this one:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_Island

  273. @songbird
    @LatW


    Would you consider the beluga whale an albino?
     
    it is somewhat evocative of one, esp. when it opens its pink mouth.

    They’re such soft looking fatties.
     
    Am thinking they must be one of the fattest whales by percentage. Because of that cold water and the fact they are (comparitively) small.

    Curious how they don't seem to get disorientated when one touches the "melon."

    I thought that Churchill would be a good place to exile corrupt Canadian pols like Trudeau, as it is cold and low-status (or the elites would think so) and the streets are haunted by polar bears. But then I heard it was called the "beluga capital of the world", which makes it sound not so bad. Perhaps, Baffin Island, where they did those Mars tests (IIRC) would be better.

    Replies: @songbird

  274. @A123
    @A123

    Update -- Persecution apparently stands.

    The judge did not dismiss the case despite overwhelming evidence. Very sad. Of course, this obvious miscarriage of justice will be appealed.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Derer

    The small d hyenas want to destroy Trump financially, there is no shame about the serious damages of the justice system that they have created. The parasites Clinton, Obama, Biden arrived in Washington poor and left millionaires…Trump arrived billionaire and will leave financially reduced. Trump underestimated Washington corrupted culture and surrounded himself with bad people. The second term he will be more careful.

  275. A123 says: • Website
    @A123
    Is another blow coming for those persecuting Trump? (1)

    Robert Hur report and testimony is the biggest elephant in the room. The term "arbitrary enforcement" used frequently by both the defense and Judge Aileen Cannon.

    Cannon hammered the fact no former president or vice president has been charged under Espionage Act for taking and keeping classified records including national defense information--which represents 32 counts against Trump in Jack Smith's indictment.

    Prediction: Cannon won't dismiss the case based on the motions debated today--vagueness of Espionage Act and protection under the Presidential Records Act.

    But it's very likely she will dismiss the case based on selective prosecution, a motion still pending before her.
     
    Gonzo phweet, reality denying, #NeverTrump zealots are comical.

    You keep Lying...
        We keep Laughing...


    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ___________________

    (1) https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1768308069765701827.html

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIyQ3zjkkXONkJas9tnl5sAu2kzf5L35QSrlVOm4Hk7-0Glac1wpH4QInTutzhZ3gu8QeI4dGIyFUKFdX-mSdxvIX1-RLAPSZPr6Yxj94eTKz9pV05pF_gOVJIQt0N9GWfGgh405LHJ9ZlshJtqByWJw8Ejsi7JxWJXbbgrVBRcH_qpnV6JUX_eVDgUG8/s497/90miles2dcdb1ae3d921f6379c73b64656084aa_c9ad8253_400.jpg

    Replies: @A123, @A123

    Update to the Update: (1)

    While many voices say this initial motion to dismiss failed, there are several indications the ruling was more about targeting the issue of statutory definitions to latter phases in the pre-trial legal process. Essentially, allowing the DOJ to try and square the circles that are seemingly un-squarable.

    Cannon is avoiding the trap of removal from the case by carefully and meticulously following a very routing process to allow the full sunlight of judicial consideration to apply at the moment when the interpretation has the greatest importance. Despite ruling against dismissal, this is not a loss for the Trump legal team as the issues behind the dismissal motion have not been rectified. These issues will surface again at more critical moments.

    If the Lawfare case is going to be dismissed in whole, as opposed to part by part, Julie Kelly was present in the court and also noticed that Judge Cannon appears to be positioning herself to dismiss the case on “selective prosecution” grounds.

    As I, and others, have discussed… The prosecution has created an unsolvable problem for itself. It must PROVE that the documents are still classified, and it eliminated the appointment of a Special Master. They now cannot prove one of the elements of their own accusation without giving the documents to the jury.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/14/judge-cannon-denies-for-now-the-trump-motion-to-dismiss-classified-documents-case/

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @A123

    Looks like continously capslocked sucking up to Chinese CCP spyware/mind control tool, named Tik Tok, is the bigger priority than all the courts for Trump now, lol

  276. @sudden death
    @Philip Owen

    German battle group in Lithuania will have its own local based production of ammo supply;)


    March 14, 2024

    Germany's largest defence contractor Rheinmetall, which intends to significantly accelerate profit growth this year, is about to ramp up its production of artillery shells to 10 times the previously produced amount.

    Before the Ukraine war, around 70,000 shell were sold per year, but demand has now increased massively, Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger said on Thursday in Dusseldorf.

    With a view to the intended production capacities at the end of 2024, Papperger added: "We are talking about around 700,000 shells." With a a new production in Germany and two planned plants in Ukraine and Lithuania, this figure is expected to rise to 1.1 million by 2027.

    Rheinmetall says it is the largest manufacturer of artillery ammunition in the Western world; its competitors include the Norwegian company Nammo.
     

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/rheinmetall-ups-profit-ramps-production-174420960.html

    Replies: @Derer

    By 2027 Lithuania and Ukraine will be getting orders from the tsar Putin.

  277. S1 says:
    @Wokechoke
    @Mikel

    It’s a typically Jewish way to decide the fate of Europe though. Very comical lol hah hehehe. Motherfucker.

    Replies: @S1

    For the record, I think there is plenty of responsibility to share for the present sad state of global affairs.

    Having said that, the hypothetical mutual destruction of the United States (the ‘New Rome’) and Russia (the ‘Third Rome’), the spiritual heirs of Rome’s Western and Eastern portions, in a new world war, could be perceived as revenge amongst certain quarters of the Jewish people for 70 AD.

    Never forgive. Never forget.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaea_Capta_coinage

  278. American auto racing visits Sebring. The first race of the long weekend is a Mazda MX-5 Cup event.

    PEACE 😇

     

  279. Carlton Meyer’s video series has caught up to current events.

  280. @A123
    @A123

    Update to the Update: (1)


    While many voices say this initial motion to dismiss failed, there are several indications the ruling was more about targeting the issue of statutory definitions to latter phases in the pre-trial legal process. Essentially, allowing the DOJ to try and square the circles that are seemingly un-squarable.

    Cannon is avoiding the trap of removal from the case by carefully and meticulously following a very routing process to allow the full sunlight of judicial consideration to apply at the moment when the interpretation has the greatest importance. Despite ruling against dismissal, this is not a loss for the Trump legal team as the issues behind the dismissal motion have not been rectified. These issues will surface again at more critical moments.

    If the Lawfare case is going to be dismissed in whole, as opposed to part by part, Julie Kelly was present in the court and also noticed that Judge Cannon appears to be positioning herself to dismiss the case on “selective prosecution” grounds.
     
    As I, and others, have discussed... The prosecution has created an unsolvable problem for itself. It must PROVE that the documents are still classified, and it eliminated the appointment of a Special Master. They now cannot prove one of the elements of their own accusation without giving the documents to the jury.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/14/judge-cannon-denies-for-now-the-trump-motion-to-dismiss-classified-documents-case/

    Replies: @sudden death

    Looks like continously capslocked sucking up to Chinese CCP spyware/mind control tool, named Tik Tok, is the bigger priority than all the courts for Trump now, lol

  281. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    What's interesting is that here in the US, we still get mostly elite immigrants from outside of the Western Hemisphere even with a lot of chain migration. Maybe this will change in the future, but so far, the picture appears very good for immigrants to the US from the "Old World". I and my own family are an example of such immigrants to the US. We don't intend to sponsor any of our own close relatives into the US because none of them are actually interested in this. And also because we don't have that many super-close relatives. Both of my parents have just one surviving sibling, after all. (I had an uncle who died at the age of 40 and who had a daughter who previously died of meningitis as an infant, with him never having any additional children afterwards.)


    It is about the numbers: they will swamp Europe at this rate.
     
    Is a swarming an unequivocally bad thing, though? The Anglosphere is rapidly becoming swarmed with non-whites and partial whites, after all, and yet the Anglosphere does not appear to be going to Hell.

    The Third World elites would all like to migrate to Europe (and a few other places). They are not coming to work. They add nothing, they corrupt our lives, and they inevitably bring along mass of their co-patriots.
     
    If looking at this from a purely financial perspective, Yes, even non-Muslim immigrants to the West outside of the Anglosphere are likely a slight net loss. But AI advances should make this issue less relevant in the future. And wouldn't you enjoy seeing many more ethnic shops and ethnic restaurants?

    It is also very bad for the Third World – only a place to steal and then leave.
     
    Would Third World elites steal less if they were forced to stay in the Third World? If anything, they might steal more in order to ensure a good quality of life for themselves. In the West, it's harder to achieve a good quality of life through corruption due to better rule-of-law systems in the West relative to the Third World.

    BTW, off-topic, but do you believe that the EU or something very similar to it would have still eventually been created without one or both World Wars?

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Beckow

    But AI advances should make this issue less relevant in the future. And wouldn’t you enjoy seeing many more ethnic shops and ethnic restaurants?

    Is this meant seriously? In Europe the ‘It is worth it for the restaurants’ argument is usually understood more ironically.

    The Anglosphere is rapidly becoming swarmed with non-whites and partial whites, after all, and yet the Anglosphere does not appear to be going to Hell.

    In the UK at least the outlook about the future is not optimistic, especially among the young.

    Mr Bald, who became famous making Youtube videos about run down parts of India, Belarus and Moldova now finds good material for the same in Britain:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Don't want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)

    Within the West, my proposed negative filters would largely be based on the interests of Europeans. (Though I might tack a few things on, that is really the essential core.). In contrast, I have only heard him articulate a negative filter based on the interests of gays.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

  282. Sperm whales are said to have the largest brain that ever existed. But their EQ is supposed to be lower than the great apes.

    But are apes really smarter? It is possible, but I wouldn’t like to believe so. Apes don’t dive to 2,250 m or have 500 gallons of spermaceti. I think these things add body mass, without necessarily requiring more brain mass, thus lowering the EQ.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird

    Orcas seem to have a high EQ. The orcas used to do a funny thing for a while where they carried a salmon on top of their head (it was their fad).

    Btw, check out this bird, had no idea such a bird even existed. Looks like a dino. Almost kind of beautiful in its own weird way.



    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7Gqgbj9mIH4

    Replies: @songbird

  283. @John Johnson
    What can be done about Russian on Russian violence?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91wZ9pAZQI

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    What can be done about Russian on Russian violence?

    Leave it alone?…Encourage it….

    Loved the “man on the street’s” endorsement of the new lada towards the end of the clip. He goes down a whole laundry list of things missing or wrong with the design and manufacture of this new “luxury” car. and explains how he’ll fix these inputs once he buys one and save a few bucks too. I don’t think that even Mike Averko would trade in his old Mercury Marquis and buy one after such a glowing endorsement! 🙂

    Maybe Beckow who is so thoroughly sold on Russia and its greatness?

    Not AP, he’s a stickler for high quality items.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    No matter what kind of a car Ivan is driving around in, after a number of direct strikes on various Russian refineries by Ukrainian drones, the price of gasoline in Russia is going up...up...and away.

    https://i0.wp.com/cms.sofrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Cartoon-June-2-2023.jpg

  284. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    What's interesting is that here in the US, we still get mostly elite immigrants from outside of the Western Hemisphere even with a lot of chain migration. Maybe this will change in the future, but so far, the picture appears very good for immigrants to the US from the "Old World". I and my own family are an example of such immigrants to the US. We don't intend to sponsor any of our own close relatives into the US because none of them are actually interested in this. And also because we don't have that many super-close relatives. Both of my parents have just one surviving sibling, after all. (I had an uncle who died at the age of 40 and who had a daughter who previously died of meningitis as an infant, with him never having any additional children afterwards.)


    It is about the numbers: they will swamp Europe at this rate.
     
    Is a swarming an unequivocally bad thing, though? The Anglosphere is rapidly becoming swarmed with non-whites and partial whites, after all, and yet the Anglosphere does not appear to be going to Hell.

    The Third World elites would all like to migrate to Europe (and a few other places). They are not coming to work. They add nothing, they corrupt our lives, and they inevitably bring along mass of their co-patriots.
     
    If looking at this from a purely financial perspective, Yes, even non-Muslim immigrants to the West outside of the Anglosphere are likely a slight net loss. But AI advances should make this issue less relevant in the future. And wouldn't you enjoy seeing many more ethnic shops and ethnic restaurants?

    It is also very bad for the Third World – only a place to steal and then leave.
     
    Would Third World elites steal less if they were forced to stay in the Third World? If anything, they might steal more in order to ensure a good quality of life for themselves. In the West, it's harder to achieve a good quality of life through corruption due to better rule-of-law systems in the West relative to the Third World.

    BTW, off-topic, but do you believe that the EU or something very similar to it would have still eventually been created without one or both World Wars?

    Replies: @Coconuts, @Beckow

    …EU or something very similar to it would have still eventually been created without one or both World Wars?

    Both World Wars were fought over the issue of who will control the Europe-wide super-state. Germany in 1940-44 actually had one – it was very much like EU. In 1805-12 France run the European superstate. Both attempts were defeated by Russia – the attempt to expand the Euro-state to Russia led to its defeat.

    It is always about who controls this “EU”. After France and Germany were pushed aside, the Anglos took over. EU is an Anglo-run project with France-Germany as the local vassals put in charge.

    The Ukie war is another Euro quasi world war – it is an attempt by the Anglo-run Euro-superstate to expand to Ukraine and weaken Russia. It is very similar to the previous failed attempts. There was always enthusiasm for the new masters – in WW2 and under Napoleon. Lately in Ukraine on Maidan “we are European”, as they march to self-destruction..

    The third attempt (at least) is failing again. These morons never learn. But maybe the real morons are the regional enthusiasts for these projects who always suffer the most.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    The Ukie war is another Euro quasi world war – it is an attempt by the Anglo-run Euro-superstate to expand to Ukraine and weaken Russia. It is very similar to the previous failed attempts
     
    Nonsense.

    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.

    Here you have Russia alone fighting against Ukraine alone (a few thousand volunteers don’t count) which in invaded, with Europe providing arms and money to the Ukrainians while the Iranians, North Koreans and Chinese supply the Russians.

    Almost nothing in common with Napoleon’s or Hitler’s eastward crusades other than Russia was at war with someone to the West of it.

    Closest analogue would be the Soviet Russian invasion of Poland in 1920, which Russia lost. Though this too has some differences.

    If the French and Brits got directly involved it might become a little bit like the Crimean War, which Russia lost.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

  285. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    What can be done about Russian on Russian violence?
     
    Leave it alone?...Encourage it....

    Loved the "man on the street's" endorsement of the new lada towards the end of the clip. He goes down a whole laundry list of things missing or wrong with the design and manufacture of this new "luxury" car. and explains how he'll fix these inputs once he buys one and save a few bucks too. I don't think that even Mike Averko would trade in his old Mercury Marquis and buy one after such a glowing endorsement! :-)

    Maybe Beckow who is so thoroughly sold on Russia and its greatness?

    Not AP, he's a stickler for high quality items.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    No matter what kind of a car Ivan is driving around in, after a number of direct strikes on various Russian refineries by Ukrainian drones, the price of gasoline in Russia is going up…up…and away.

  286. Ukies keep shelling Russian villages and cities near the border. Apparently, in an attempt to affect presidential elections in the RF (Ukies are seething: there are elections in “autocratic” RF, while there are no elections in “democratic” Ukieland). Naturally, these desperate actions by Ukie scum are not going to have any effect on the RF elections or on SMO. That’s not new, though.

    The news is that during Ukie shelling of the village Belovskoe in Belgorod region nine years old boy protected with his body his nine months old sister. Both children got multiple wounds from shell fragments and are now treated.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN

    The Russian people should hold Putler accountable for all war time injuries and deaths due to his fanatical incurions into Ukrainian territory. NO putler, no war, no war no injuries.

  287. @AnonfromTN
    Ukies keep shelling Russian villages and cities near the border. Apparently, in an attempt to affect presidential elections in the RF (Ukies are seething: there are elections in “autocratic” RF, while there are no elections in “democratic” Ukieland). Naturally, these desperate actions by Ukie scum are not going to have any effect on the RF elections or on SMO. That’s not new, though.

    The news is that during Ukie shelling of the village Belovskoe in Belgorod region nine years old boy protected with his body his nine months old sister. Both children got multiple wounds from shell fragments and are now treated.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The Russian people should hold Putler accountable for all war time injuries and deaths due to his fanatical incurions into Ukrainian territory. NO putler, no war, no war no injuries.

  288. Battle of the Nations
    United States China

    [MORE]

    The Ukraine Russia battle was won by the Ukrainian woman, who lives in Monte Carlo and speaks Russian, not Ukrainian. She refused to shake hands with the defeated Russian woman. No WTA highlights are yet available. They would be watchable only muted, as both of these women grunt and scream like they are Serena Williams.

    The American negro woman displayed higher class consciousness than the Ukrainian as she shook hands after the match. The Chinese woman was in between. She shook hands, but afterwards was seen going through three bottles of hand sanitizer on the sidelines.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Perhaps, the Ukrainian athlete had run out of hand sanitizer?

  289. @Emil Nikola Richard
    Battle of the Nations
    United States China

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpwElcKK6UI

    The Ukraine Russia battle was won by the Ukrainian woman, who lives in Monte Carlo and speaks Russian, not Ukrainian. She refused to shake hands with the defeated Russian woman. No WTA highlights are yet available. They would be watchable only muted, as both of these women grunt and scream like they are Serena Williams.

    The American negro woman displayed higher class consciousness than the Ukrainian as she shook hands after the match. The Chinese woman was in between. She shook hands, but afterwards was seen going through three bottles of hand sanitizer on the sidelines.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Perhaps, the Ukrainian athlete had run out of hand sanitizer?

  290. @songbird
    Sperm whales are said to have the largest brain that ever existed. But their EQ is supposed to be lower than the great apes.

    But are apes really smarter? It is possible, but I wouldn't like to believe so. Apes don't dive to 2,250 m or have 500 gallons of spermaceti. I think these things add body mass, without necessarily requiring more brain mass, thus lowering the EQ.

    Replies: @LatW

    Orcas seem to have a high EQ. The orcas used to do a funny thing for a while where they carried a salmon on top of their head (it was their fad).

    Btw, check out this bird, had no idea such a bird even existed. Looks like a dino. Almost kind of beautiful in its own weird way.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Orcas seem to have a high EQ
     
    Orcas have the 2nd-largest brains.

    Their EQ seems somewhat similar to a chimp. (These values float a bit.). But I would have thought it would be at least a bit closer to a bottlenose.

    It is curious to think how a chimp might tear one apart. But probably not an orca. And that that difference might not really be related to intelligence, at all. I guess Orcas probably don't engage in the same kind of warfare as chimps and wolves do? But perhaps they would, if there were more of them or if we observed them better?

    It's hard to work out the validity of these measures. Some say that EQ isn't as good a measure of intelligence as forebrain neuron count.

    Btw, check out this bird
     
    Ah, yes, that is the famous one that sounds like some urban neighborhoods. Sailer has referenced it before. It is certainly cool-looking.
  291. @Mikhail
    @Philip Owen

    Ben Aris and you aside, not happening.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    He and I have discussed this in the distant past.

  292. The world has really turned upside down, it seems.

    “Marine Le Pen, former leader of the French right-wing populist party Rassemblement National (National Rally ‒ RN), who had a long-standing reputation as a “friend of Putin”, has unexpectedly slammed Russia for the war in Ukraine during debates in the French parliament regarding support for Ukraine.”

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/14/7446404/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    Do you think that Putler cares? Does her recent about face put her squarely into the camp of the more belligerent?

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/03/06/9d627d30e6f665d2d91ccae714f0b87d.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp
    “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer” InPutler's case, the line is blurry.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Beckow
    @LatW

    It's the right side up: you are not allowed in the inner circle without a ritual denunciation of Russia. La Pen is inching to 'respectability', so it is compulsory. It also makes no difference to what happens - same as with the duce-fan-Giorgina, they are walk-ins to perform a scripted role.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:


    ...the best strategic ambiguity is silence.
     
    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident. It is a scripted Nato attempt to negotiate an acceptable end to the war. Two conditions that Macron repeats:
    - "Russia must not win". He doesn't say that Kiev or Nato win - he is only asking for a face saving way to end it.
    - Keep Odessa in Ukraine - Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa. But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.

    It seems reasonable. The question is whether Russia will agree and the details. No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with "Odessa". And the ability to pretend that Russia didn't win, that's the most important thing.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have...

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel, @Wokechoke

  293. @LatW
    The world has really turned upside down, it seems.

    "Marine Le Pen, former leader of the French right-wing populist party Rassemblement National (National Rally ‒ RN), who had a long-standing reputation as a "friend of Putin", has unexpectedly slammed Russia for the war in Ukraine during debates in the French parliament regarding support for Ukraine."

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/14/7446404/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow

    Do you think that Putler cares? Does her recent about face put her squarely into the camp of the more belligerent?
    “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer” InPutler’s case, the line is blurry.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. Hack


    Do you think that Putler cares?
     
    I think he cares a little but not nearly enough to change his fanatical goals that he laid out in the December 2021 ultimatum. To him, that is above everything, nothing else matters. That was actually known to us, instinctively, a long time ago. To them, the defeat in the Cold War was something that they would try to reverse anyway (when they have the capabilities to do so).
  294. @LatW
    @songbird

    Orcas seem to have a high EQ. The orcas used to do a funny thing for a while where they carried a salmon on top of their head (it was their fad).

    Btw, check out this bird, had no idea such a bird even existed. Looks like a dino. Almost kind of beautiful in its own weird way.



    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7Gqgbj9mIH4

    Replies: @songbird

    Orcas seem to have a high EQ

    Orcas have the 2nd-largest brains.

    Their EQ seems somewhat similar to a chimp. (These values float a bit.). But I would have thought it would be at least a bit closer to a bottlenose.

    It is curious to think how a chimp might tear one apart. But probably not an orca. And that that difference might not really be related to intelligence, at all. I guess Orcas probably don’t engage in the same kind of warfare as chimps and wolves do? But perhaps they would, if there were more of them or if we observed them better?

    It’s hard to work out the validity of these measures. Some say that EQ isn’t as good a measure of intelligence as forebrain neuron count.

    Btw, check out this bird

    Ah, yes, that is the famous one that sounds like some urban neighborhoods. Sailer has referenced it before. It is certainly cool-looking.

  295. @LatW
    The world has really turned upside down, it seems.

    "Marine Le Pen, former leader of the French right-wing populist party Rassemblement National (National Rally ‒ RN), who had a long-standing reputation as a "friend of Putin", has unexpectedly slammed Russia for the war in Ukraine during debates in the French parliament regarding support for Ukraine."

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/14/7446404/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow

    It’s the right side up: you are not allowed in the inner circle without a ritual denunciation of Russia. La Pen is inching to ‘respectability’, so it is compulsory. It also makes no difference to what happens – same as with the duce-fan-Giorgina, they are walk-ins to perform a scripted role.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:

    …the best strategic ambiguity is silence.

    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident. It is a scripted Nato attempt to negotiate an acceptable end to the war. Two conditions that Macron repeats:
    – “Russia must not win“. He doesn’t say that Kiev or Nato win – he is only asking for a face saving way to end it.
    – Keep Odessa in Ukraine – Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa. But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.

    It seems reasonable. The question is whether Russia will agree and the details. No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with “Odessa”. And the ability to pretend that Russia didn’t win, that’s the most important thing.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have…

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    La Pen is inching to ‘respectability’, so it is compulsory.
     
    Of course, I understand that this is largely domestic politics (although she used some very strong language, calling Ukrainians "martyrs", "heroic", my French is not that good, but it sounded like she even said something like "the heroic battle of Ukrainians will lead to Russia's defeat"). But even that is new and quite meaningful. She has also noticed the recent crazy rhetoric from Medvedev against the French.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:

    …the best strategic ambiguity is silence.
     

    She is right, but that's how it should've been in the beginning of the war - some Western leaders came out at that time saying what they "will not do". That was stupid. They should've condemned the aggression, kept the strategic ambiguity by staying mostly silent and simply pass the weapons along quietly. But probably wasn't possible, given the nature of today's public diplomacy when everything is kind of out in the open (which in a way is more democratic).

    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident.
     
    Why now? Because they overslept and let the whole thing drag out too long. And Macron is right when he mentions that he was the one who tried the longest to convince Putin not to do this, that effort was commendable, it's just that he must not have believed Putin's real intentions (that were laid out in the December 2021 ultimatum). Macron probably found those not serious, but now he sees that they were meant seriously.

    I think another very important element here was Trump. Because, once again, Trump started flirting with the idea of leaving NATO, trashing Europeans, even saying he would encourage Putin to attack Europe (with his fans hooting and hollering in the background). How long can the Euros tolerate this? It's been going on already from 2016.


    Keep Odessa in Ukraine – Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa.
     
    Romania can be viewed as a country that has had some French patronage, and Moldova is practically Romania. So Macron's concerns about this area are understandable.

    But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.
     
    They may not openly talk about this right now, because they don't have the means and mostly political will to do anything about it right now (even though what Petr Pavel just did is pretty amazing). Without aviation there is not much they can do, probably.

    Frankly, Kharkiv should be the job of Ukrainians themselves, many of us are pissed about what is going on there right now, not just the Ukes (many of us had acquaintances there and decades long relations). The Russian volunteer raid is partly about Kharkiv, to push the Russians further away, so they stop the savage bombings. The Ukrainians could defend it themselves if given the ammo and help with air defense.

    So I doubt someone like Macron would have a plan about the areas that far east, it is in a flux right now, even if they are talking about options, this would be a huge endeavor, so it would need to be planned out very carefully. Not sure they are ready for it yet.


    No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with “Odessa”.
     
    It's still too early for that kind of a "negotiation". It's far from over. Plus the West will be very careful to even have these kinds of negotiations, as this is essentially a partition of Ukraine against the will of the population (that measures in tens of millions). Too big of a deal.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have…
     
    If it ends up being demonstrated that "might makes right" at such a large scale, then it will be very likely that those who possess any kind of significant power (or even just power vis a vis their neighbors or vulnerable groups) will be very tempted to exercise it. This is the law of Nature, unfortunately. And then nobody will be able to contain that chaos. This is what Le Pen also warned about. So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group... geez, where is their self-respect - maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron's recent rhetoric).

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

    , @Mikel
    @Beckow

    You keep finding optimistic interpretations of Macron's threats but I don't see much scope for optimism. I guess there are many ways to interpret what he keeps saying but to me the most plausible one is very simple: a NATO leader is threatening to send troops to fight Russia for the same reason that the NATO leaders thought that it was necessary to encroach Russia militarily by expanding NATO as close to Russia as they could. You can't fully understand the former without understanding the latter.

    I don't agree with some of your views on Russia (or Poland) but I think we both agree that that military expansion when the threat to the West had finally disappeared was reckless and incomprehensible. However, it was not something that we hoi polloi had any say on. Whatever we understand or fail to understand, our betters decided that Russia was still a threat to us (for historical, genetic or who knows what reasons) that had to be contained. That probably went along with the idea that history had stopped and from now on only one big world superpower of like-minded globalist democracies was tolerable, as we saw in the other adventures they embarked on.

    Of course, now that their prophecy has fulfilled itself and they have indeed turned Russia into the nation willing to invade neighbors that they feared, they must be even more scared and they must actually think that their fears have been proven correct. The contrary would be admitting that they did something wrong, which these types are too arrogant to do. So they can't contemplate the idea that Russia may to some extent or another defeat the Ukraine-NATO coalition they have built. Difficult as it may be, if you put yourself in the minds of the people who thought it was a great idea to expand NATO to the whole of Eastern Europe and then on to Ukraine and Georgia (!), the conclusion that they're willing to fight a shooting war with Russia in Ukraine becomes quite natural.

    I don't see any signs that Russia is capable of overwhelming the defense Ukraine has put up in the East with NATO's help. But if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and, as I argued above, Russia would only have one way to stop it.

    Replies: @LatW, @Derer, @Beckow

    , @Wokechoke
    @Beckow

    So the French are sending troops into Donbas and need willing white boys doing it?

  296. @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    Do you think that Putler cares? Does her recent about face put her squarely into the camp of the more belligerent?

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/03/06/9d627d30e6f665d2d91ccae714f0b87d.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp
    “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer” InPutler's case, the line is blurry.

    Replies: @LatW

    Do you think that Putler cares?

    I think he cares a little but not nearly enough to change his fanatical goals that he laid out in the December 2021 ultimatum. To him, that is above everything, nothing else matters. That was actually known to us, instinctively, a long time ago. To them, the defeat in the Cold War was something that they would try to reverse anyway (when they have the capabilities to do so).

  297. Russia has hurt its popularity in France (and elsewhere) by pushing anti-white – “anti-colonial” – pro-Third Worldist propaganda. (Pieds noirs and their descendants are the single most reliable Le Pen voting bloc). Daily news items like today’s 20 dead in Odessa missile strike make it almost impossible for Europeans to be publicly pro-Russia any more. Much of the pro-Russian sentiment on the Right was always just a reaction to the American occupation & pro-multiculti agenda anyway. With Russia echoing US government talking points on race and failing to hurt American power in Europe (so far) there’s really no upside to the Right supporting them at this moment. IMO though they should continue to talk about the Nord Stream sabotage as its a weak point for the Americans and their collaborators.

  298. @Beckow
    @LatW

    It's the right side up: you are not allowed in the inner circle without a ritual denunciation of Russia. La Pen is inching to 'respectability', so it is compulsory. It also makes no difference to what happens - same as with the duce-fan-Giorgina, they are walk-ins to perform a scripted role.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:


    ...the best strategic ambiguity is silence.
     
    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident. It is a scripted Nato attempt to negotiate an acceptable end to the war. Two conditions that Macron repeats:
    - "Russia must not win". He doesn't say that Kiev or Nato win - he is only asking for a face saving way to end it.
    - Keep Odessa in Ukraine - Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa. But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.

    It seems reasonable. The question is whether Russia will agree and the details. No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with "Odessa". And the ability to pretend that Russia didn't win, that's the most important thing.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have...

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel, @Wokechoke

    La Pen is inching to ‘respectability’, so it is compulsory.

    Of course, I understand that this is largely domestic politics (although she used some very strong language, calling Ukrainians “martyrs”, “heroic”, my French is not that good, but it sounded like she even said something like “the heroic battle of Ukrainians will lead to Russia’s defeat”). But even that is new and quite meaningful. She has also noticed the recent crazy rhetoric from Medvedev against the French.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:

    …the best strategic ambiguity is silence.

    She is right, but that’s how it should’ve been in the beginning of the war – some Western leaders came out at that time saying what they “will not do”. That was stupid. They should’ve condemned the aggression, kept the strategic ambiguity by staying mostly silent and simply pass the weapons along quietly. But probably wasn’t possible, given the nature of today’s public diplomacy when everything is kind of out in the open (which in a way is more democratic).

    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident.

    Why now? Because they overslept and let the whole thing drag out too long. And Macron is right when he mentions that he was the one who tried the longest to convince Putin not to do this, that effort was commendable, it’s just that he must not have believed Putin’s real intentions (that were laid out in the December 2021 ultimatum). Macron probably found those not serious, but now he sees that they were meant seriously.

    I think another very important element here was Trump. Because, once again, Trump started flirting with the idea of leaving NATO, trashing Europeans, even saying he would encourage Putin to attack Europe (with his fans hooting and hollering in the background). How long can the Euros tolerate this? It’s been going on already from 2016.

    Keep Odessa in Ukraine – Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa.

    Romania can be viewed as a country that has had some French patronage, and Moldova is practically Romania. So Macron’s concerns about this area are understandable.

    But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.

    They may not openly talk about this right now, because they don’t have the means and mostly political will to do anything about it right now (even though what Petr Pavel just did is pretty amazing). Without aviation there is not much they can do, probably.

    Frankly, Kharkiv should be the job of Ukrainians themselves, many of us are pissed about what is going on there right now, not just the Ukes (many of us had acquaintances there and decades long relations). The Russian volunteer raid is partly about Kharkiv, to push the Russians further away, so they stop the savage bombings. The Ukrainians could defend it themselves if given the ammo and help with air defense.

    So I doubt someone like Macron would have a plan about the areas that far east, it is in a flux right now, even if they are talking about options, this would be a huge endeavor, so it would need to be planned out very carefully. Not sure they are ready for it yet.

    No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with “Odessa”.

    It’s still too early for that kind of a “negotiation”. It’s far from over. Plus the West will be very careful to even have these kinds of negotiations, as this is essentially a partition of Ukraine against the will of the population (that measures in tens of millions). Too big of a deal.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have…

    If it ends up being demonstrated that “might makes right” at such a large scale, then it will be very likely that those who possess any kind of significant power (or even just power vis a vis their neighbors or vulnerable groups) will be very tempted to exercise it. This is the law of Nature, unfortunately. And then nobody will be able to contain that chaos. This is what Le Pen also warned about. So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group… geez, where is their self-respect – maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron’s recent rhetoric).

    • Replies: @LatW
    @LatW


    So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group… geez, where is their self-respect – maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron’s recent rhetoric).
     
    I mean, think about how the French must be feeling. They left their colonies long ago, gave up their dominance (even if they left some patronage and economic ties), but then RusFed is going to start colonial wars on the doorstep of the EU in the 21st century and even threaten the EU? That's just scandalous.

    Not saying this is how their public feels (many of them may not care, although we don't have a proper recent analysis of it), but the leaders might be feeling that way. That's what it looks like to an outsider at least.

    Replies: @S1

    , @Beckow
    @LatW


    they overslept and let the whole thing drag out too long. And Macron is right when he mentions that he was the one who tried the longest to convince Putin not to do this
     
    Macron is a narcissist and a manipulator as the Frenchies tend to be. Russia cut them off and he is hysterical. Making threats - because that is what they are - without ability to carry them out is stupid and makes France weaker.

    Imagine the French army moving openly into Ukraine (Odessa) assisted by the Romanians. How many? 25k or 50k? How many would be destroyed? Would the French bring in the air force? How long before Bucarest is bombed? How would we avoid an all out war with cities all over Europe destroyed?

    My optimistic interpretation was in what Macron didn't say - in his narrowly focused threats. It sounded like a guy about to surrender who says 'but if you try to take my shoes I will bite'.


    West will be very careful to even have these kinds of negotiations, as this is essentially a partition of Ukraine against the will of the population
     
    Russia and the Russians living in Ukraine (also millions) will be even more careful. It was the West and Kiev that broke the previous treaties. All border changes are 'partitions' against the will of parts of the population. Kosovo partition was against the will of people of Serbia, Catalans in Spain, Ulster, etc...it is always like that. But the millions of Russians living in Ukraine also have rights - the ones in Donbas, Crimea, Azov coastline want to be a part of Russia. What do you propose to do about it? Expel them? Kill them? The Ukies screwed up encouraged by crazies in the West, now they are paying a very high price.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

  299. @LatW
    @Beckow


    La Pen is inching to ‘respectability’, so it is compulsory.
     
    Of course, I understand that this is largely domestic politics (although she used some very strong language, calling Ukrainians "martyrs", "heroic", my French is not that good, but it sounded like she even said something like "the heroic battle of Ukrainians will lead to Russia's defeat"). But even that is new and quite meaningful. She has also noticed the recent crazy rhetoric from Medvedev against the French.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:

    …the best strategic ambiguity is silence.
     

    She is right, but that's how it should've been in the beginning of the war - some Western leaders came out at that time saying what they "will not do". That was stupid. They should've condemned the aggression, kept the strategic ambiguity by staying mostly silent and simply pass the weapons along quietly. But probably wasn't possible, given the nature of today's public diplomacy when everything is kind of out in the open (which in a way is more democratic).

    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident.
     
    Why now? Because they overslept and let the whole thing drag out too long. And Macron is right when he mentions that he was the one who tried the longest to convince Putin not to do this, that effort was commendable, it's just that he must not have believed Putin's real intentions (that were laid out in the December 2021 ultimatum). Macron probably found those not serious, but now he sees that they were meant seriously.

    I think another very important element here was Trump. Because, once again, Trump started flirting with the idea of leaving NATO, trashing Europeans, even saying he would encourage Putin to attack Europe (with his fans hooting and hollering in the background). How long can the Euros tolerate this? It's been going on already from 2016.


    Keep Odessa in Ukraine – Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa.
     
    Romania can be viewed as a country that has had some French patronage, and Moldova is practically Romania. So Macron's concerns about this area are understandable.

    But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.
     
    They may not openly talk about this right now, because they don't have the means and mostly political will to do anything about it right now (even though what Petr Pavel just did is pretty amazing). Without aviation there is not much they can do, probably.

    Frankly, Kharkiv should be the job of Ukrainians themselves, many of us are pissed about what is going on there right now, not just the Ukes (many of us had acquaintances there and decades long relations). The Russian volunteer raid is partly about Kharkiv, to push the Russians further away, so they stop the savage bombings. The Ukrainians could defend it themselves if given the ammo and help with air defense.

    So I doubt someone like Macron would have a plan about the areas that far east, it is in a flux right now, even if they are talking about options, this would be a huge endeavor, so it would need to be planned out very carefully. Not sure they are ready for it yet.


    No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with “Odessa”.
     
    It's still too early for that kind of a "negotiation". It's far from over. Plus the West will be very careful to even have these kinds of negotiations, as this is essentially a partition of Ukraine against the will of the population (that measures in tens of millions). Too big of a deal.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have…
     
    If it ends up being demonstrated that "might makes right" at such a large scale, then it will be very likely that those who possess any kind of significant power (or even just power vis a vis their neighbors or vulnerable groups) will be very tempted to exercise it. This is the law of Nature, unfortunately. And then nobody will be able to contain that chaos. This is what Le Pen also warned about. So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group... geez, where is their self-respect - maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron's recent rhetoric).

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

    So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group… geez, where is their self-respect – maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron’s recent rhetoric).

    I mean, think about how the French must be feeling. They left their colonies long ago, gave up their dominance (even if they left some patronage and economic ties), but then RusFed is going to start colonial wars on the doorstep of the EU in the 21st century and even threaten the EU? That’s just scandalous.

    Not saying this is how their public feels (many of them may not care, although we don’t have a proper recent analysis of it), but the leaders might be feeling that way. That’s what it looks like to an outsider at least.

    • Replies: @S1
    @LatW


    So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group… geez, where is their self-respect – maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron’s recent rhetoric).
     
    I think Macron tells the French public whatever he thinks will sell them on his projects, not that he necessarily believes his own rhetoric.

    As for himself, he has his orders, and those orders are to prepare not 'just' France, but much of the rest of Europe as well, for war with Russia. It's all about the creation of a global super-state, or 'empire' as they sometimes call it, which by and large in theory precludes autarky, and 'peoplehood', which is anathema to those promoting a world state, and this is so even if that 'peoplehood' may well largely consist of empty symbolism. This new world war they have in the works is intended to wipe out the remnants of peoplehood and autarky..at least for most.

    [France after the final defeat of Napoleon in 1815 was reduced to being a satellite empire of the far more powerful British Empire. I know, I too used to think the latter 19th century French were the loyal opposition to the British, with Africa split roughly evenly between them. Then it sank home that a lot of the French 'empire' in Africa was the Saharan desert, ie sand, and the remainder none too resource rich. It was the British portion of Africa which had the bulk of the valuable minerals and fresh water wealth.

    Not dissimilarly, in the post WWII division of Europe, the US/UK and their satellite France, self allotted for themselves the populated, developed, and wealthy Western Europe, as their sphere of influence, while the Soviet allotment in Eastern Europe was largely the undeveloped and far less wealthy rural 'sticks'.

    People generally don't quite realize just how powerful the US/UK has been the past hundred plus years, and even is now.

    And, as they say, the devil is in the details, and appearances can be deceiving.]

    Replies: @LatW

  300. @Coconuts
    @Mr. XYZ


    But AI advances should make this issue less relevant in the future. And wouldn’t you enjoy seeing many more ethnic shops and ethnic restaurants?
     
    Is this meant seriously? In Europe the 'It is worth it for the restaurants' argument is usually understood more ironically.

    The Anglosphere is rapidly becoming swarmed with non-whites and partial whites, after all, and yet the Anglosphere does not appear to be going to Hell.
     
    In the UK at least the outlook about the future is not optimistic, especially among the young.

    Mr Bald, who became famous making Youtube videos about run down parts of India, Belarus and Moldova now finds good material for the same in Britain:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U0wQPMwvVc&t=1741s

    Replies: @songbird

    Don’t want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)

    Within the West, my proposed negative filters would largely be based on the interests of Europeans. (Though I might tack a few things on, that is really the essential core.). In contrast, I have only heard him articulate a negative filter based on the interests of gays.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    I'm not gay. I'm 95% straight, but with a slight bisexual lean (I only like femme/androgynous males, which rules out the overwhelming majority of them).

    I want people who are most likely to successfully integrate in the West, whether as a part of the West's upper-classes, middle-classes, or lower-classes. The US's historical experience with African-Americans (other than their Talented Tenth) and Western Europe's recent experience with Muslims have both not been very encouraging, to put it mildly. But the US's experience with Latin Americans, Russia's historical experience with Central Asians, Israel's experience with Mizrahi Jews, and Italy's experience with southern Italians all appear to have gone somewhat better. Along with of course various examples of cognitively elitist immigration (including the mass immigration of people of partial Jewish descent who are not halakhically Jewish to Israel, whose numbers there (when combined with those of their Israeli-born descendants) have already exceeded half a million by now).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Coconuts
    @songbird


    Don’t want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)
     
    A while ago I think BAP had a theory like this, he was arguing that one of the motivations behind the recent immigration wave was a shortage of gay-for-pay in elite urban centres.

    Mr. XYZ does have a point that, say if the all immigration from South Asia to the UK had been Indian, there would probably have been fewer social problems with it. As it is it has come from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India. This fits in with a general high level of diversity between the different sources of immigrants, not sure if this was a conscious decision to prevent any individual country becoming too important as a source of immigration, or whether it has been a random thing.

    Morgoth talked about Bald and Bankrupt and this topic in a recent video:



    https://morgoth.substack.com/p/a-week-in-the-british-thug-state

    I think he is right in this one about the shift in mood, which is getting more pessimistic.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

  301. Le Pen’s party looking good in the polls. Particularly impressive for legislative elections, usually a weak point for them.

    Don’t want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)

    So he’s homosexual and Jewish? Are there any prominent homosexual Jews who are not hostile to the interests of Europeans?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Matra

    I'm very open to supporting Le Pen in France if she will become as pro-Ukraine as Macron himself is. I don't think that Muslim immigration to France has been a very good thing and thus seeing significant curbs on it would likely be a good idea. Seeing less people get killed over "Islamophobic" speech would certainly be a good idea. French whites should become like liberal Israeli Jews: Much more nationalistic but still committed to some degree of internal liberal pluralism (but with heavy immigration restrictions for Muslims). Israeli Muslims (as opposed to Palestinian Muslims) generally don't cause all that much trouble in Israel, to my knowledge, unless it involves violence within their own communities, such as abusing or killing family members of theirs for something that shouldn't matter (such as being LGBTQ+).

    I'm not gay. I don't find the overwhelming majority of males attractive. Only some of those who are femme/androgynous.

    BTW, in regards to Latin Americans specifically, my own views are rather similar for immigration for the West and for Israel: 25+% Jewish or the immediate family member of one? Then you should be allowed to immigrate to Israel, especially if you don't practice any religion other than Judaism. (This is actually what Israel's current Law of Return does. Thankfully, the October 7 terrorist attack by Hamas caused stupid right-wing nationalistic bigoted Israeli Jewish politicians to shut up about trying to change the Law of Return, likely for a long time to come.) 25+% European or the immediate family member of one? Then you should be allowed to immigrate to the US/West. This would result in most Latin Americans qualifying for this. Of course, most Asians are not 25+% European, but even the alt-right has less objections towards them, at least towards East Asians, whom they sometimes and perhaps even often view as suitable waifu material for themselves.

    Replies: @songbird

  302. @Beckow
    @LatW

    It's the right side up: you are not allowed in the inner circle without a ritual denunciation of Russia. La Pen is inching to 'respectability', so it is compulsory. It also makes no difference to what happens - same as with the duce-fan-Giorgina, they are walk-ins to perform a scripted role.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:


    ...the best strategic ambiguity is silence.
     
    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident. It is a scripted Nato attempt to negotiate an acceptable end to the war. Two conditions that Macron repeats:
    - "Russia must not win". He doesn't say that Kiev or Nato win - he is only asking for a face saving way to end it.
    - Keep Odessa in Ukraine - Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa. But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.

    It seems reasonable. The question is whether Russia will agree and the details. No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with "Odessa". And the ability to pretend that Russia didn't win, that's the most important thing.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have...

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel, @Wokechoke

    You keep finding optimistic interpretations of Macron’s threats but I don’t see much scope for optimism. I guess there are many ways to interpret what he keeps saying but to me the most plausible one is very simple: a NATO leader is threatening to send troops to fight Russia for the same reason that the NATO leaders thought that it was necessary to encroach Russia militarily by expanding NATO as close to Russia as they could. You can’t fully understand the former without understanding the latter.

    I don’t agree with some of your views on Russia (or Poland) but I think we both agree that that military expansion when the threat to the West had finally disappeared was reckless and incomprehensible. However, it was not something that we hoi polloi had any say on. Whatever we understand or fail to understand, our betters decided that Russia was still a threat to us (for historical, genetic or who knows what reasons) that had to be contained. That probably went along with the idea that history had stopped and from now on only one big world superpower of like-minded globalist democracies was tolerable, as we saw in the other adventures they embarked on.

    Of course, now that their prophecy has fulfilled itself and they have indeed turned Russia into the nation willing to invade neighbors that they feared, they must be even more scared and they must actually think that their fears have been proven correct. The contrary would be admitting that they did something wrong, which these types are too arrogant to do. So they can’t contemplate the idea that Russia may to some extent or another defeat the Ukraine-NATO coalition they have built. Difficult as it may be, if you put yourself in the minds of the people who thought it was a great idea to expand NATO to the whole of Eastern Europe and then on to Ukraine and Georgia (!), the conclusion that they’re willing to fight a shooting war with Russia in Ukraine becomes quite natural.

    I don’t see any signs that Russia is capable of overwhelming the defense Ukraine has put up in the East with NATO’s help. But if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and, as I argued above, Russia would only have one way to stop it.

    • Agree: QCIC
    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mikel


    Of course, now that their prophecy has fulfilled itself and they have indeed turned Russia into the nation willing to invade neighbors that they feared, they must be even more scared and they must actually think that their fears have been proven correct.
     
    Which neighbors did RusFed fear in 1991 or in 2007, or in 2014? If I understand correctly what is meant here... that RusFed feared anybody?
    , @Derer
    @Mikel


    the conclusion that they’re willing to fight a shooting war with Russia in Ukraine becomes quite natural.
     
    Only until last Ukrainian. At this stage of the conflict the Russia will dictate the conditions of the settlement. At the beginning there was a window for negotiation. This is a violent divorce of two members from the same union and does not compare to the US many invasions. It was Yeltsin ignorance at the hasty disintegration of the Soviets.
    , @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and Russia would only have one way to stop it.
     
    Probably, but it is possible to bleed them to death - Nato is very averse to casualties. It would take too long, so it would most likely go nuclear.

    I am an optimist so I looked for some positive stuff in what Macron said or didn't say, but Macron is not the decision maker nor is he consistent. He looks like a headless chicken running around. But he let out some interesting stuff that I described above.

    Wars, especially catastrophic wars, should be about serious, existential stuff. There is no way the need to expand Nato to Ukraine is existential for the West - it is a war of choice. The smarter ones had to know that it will end in a war with Russia, they either chose to bluff or for some reason wanted the war.

    Macron was dancing wildly like a drunken pre-teen, he even commented on what he was himself saying, very bizarre, it completely lacked gravitas. He should just shut up.

    This is only existential for Russia. For Ukraine any compromise like the Minsk deal or Istanbul were painful but wouldn't change the nature of their state or what they want to do with EU. For the West it was a choice - surround Russia. Not out of fear but to be able to strangle, threaten, to turn Russia into a weak state that can be dictated to.

    Russia will not surrender. Macron says that Nato will also refuse to give up. That is crazy, we will evaporate at the end out of stubborness.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel

  303. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ


    ...EU or something very similar to it would have still eventually been created without one or both World Wars?
     
    Both World Wars were fought over the issue of who will control the Europe-wide super-state. Germany in 1940-44 actually had one - it was very much like EU. In 1805-12 France run the European superstate. Both attempts were defeated by Russia - the attempt to expand the Euro-state to Russia led to its defeat.

    It is always about who controls this "EU". After France and Germany were pushed aside, the Anglos took over. EU is an Anglo-run project with France-Germany as the local vassals put in charge.

    The Ukie war is another Euro quasi world war - it is an attempt by the Anglo-run Euro-superstate to expand to Ukraine and weaken Russia. It is very similar to the previous failed attempts. There was always enthusiasm for the new masters - in WW2 and under Napoleon. Lately in Ukraine on Maidan "we are European", as they march to self-destruction..

    The third attempt (at least) is failing again. These morons never learn. But maybe the real morons are the regional enthusiasts for these projects who always suffer the most.

    Replies: @AP

    The Ukie war is another Euro quasi world war – it is an attempt by the Anglo-run Euro-superstate to expand to Ukraine and weaken Russia. It is very similar to the previous failed attempts

    Nonsense.

    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.

    Here you have Russia alone fighting against Ukraine alone (a few thousand volunteers don’t count) which in invaded, with Europe providing arms and money to the Ukrainians while the Iranians, North Koreans and Chinese supply the Russians.

    Almost nothing in common with Napoleon’s or Hitler’s eastward crusades other than Russia was at war with someone to the West of it.

    Closest analogue would be the Soviet Russian invasion of Poland in 1920, which Russia lost. Though this too has some differences.

    If the French and Brits got directly involved it might become a little bit like the Crimean War, which Russia lost.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @AP

    What a nonsense you are feeding us. This NATO proxy-war cannot be even remotely compared to your ad hoc examples. For one think the liberation of Ukraine from Ukie-nazi grip, supported by foreign vultures, will be successful.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Here you have Russia alone fighting against Ukraine alone (a few thousand volunteers don’t count) which in invaded, with Europe providing arms and money to the Ukrainians while the Iranians, North Koreans and Chinese supply the Russians.
     
    Worth noting that the US and the rest of the developed Anglosphere are also arming Ukraine in the style of Lend-Lease. During WWII, they were strongly anti-Nazi. Even when the US itself was still neutral, it still provided significant help to the Allies through policies such as Cash-and-Carry and (later on) Lend-Lease.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Beckow
    @AP


    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.
     

    What you wrote are lies - because you can't be that ignorant. France attacked Russia in 1812 with support from all of Europe: Germany, Italy, Poland, Dutch-Belgians...only 1/3 of their army was French. AFTER the loss many switched sides, but it was an all-European army attacking Russia - and losing.

    Germany invaded Russia with Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Baltic countries and Western Ukies. France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Norway, etc...also sent troops - "volunteers" and all of Europe was busily arming the Nazis (including Sweden and Switzerland)....again almost all of Europe attacked Russia and lost.

    The posturing about France being against Germany is b..shit that Soviets agreed to in order to split the Western allies - there were more French fighting on the side of Nazis than against - the last holdout in Berlin was the French Charlemagne SS Division.

    This is very similar except the Westies have no balls to actually fight and are using the Ukies. They have no chance to win and your hallucinations about Poland or the Crimean war are just silly. This is a very different Russia and Europe. Pay attention.

    Replies: @AP, @Philip Owen

  304. @Mikel
    @Beckow

    You keep finding optimistic interpretations of Macron's threats but I don't see much scope for optimism. I guess there are many ways to interpret what he keeps saying but to me the most plausible one is very simple: a NATO leader is threatening to send troops to fight Russia for the same reason that the NATO leaders thought that it was necessary to encroach Russia militarily by expanding NATO as close to Russia as they could. You can't fully understand the former without understanding the latter.

    I don't agree with some of your views on Russia (or Poland) but I think we both agree that that military expansion when the threat to the West had finally disappeared was reckless and incomprehensible. However, it was not something that we hoi polloi had any say on. Whatever we understand or fail to understand, our betters decided that Russia was still a threat to us (for historical, genetic or who knows what reasons) that had to be contained. That probably went along with the idea that history had stopped and from now on only one big world superpower of like-minded globalist democracies was tolerable, as we saw in the other adventures they embarked on.

    Of course, now that their prophecy has fulfilled itself and they have indeed turned Russia into the nation willing to invade neighbors that they feared, they must be even more scared and they must actually think that their fears have been proven correct. The contrary would be admitting that they did something wrong, which these types are too arrogant to do. So they can't contemplate the idea that Russia may to some extent or another defeat the Ukraine-NATO coalition they have built. Difficult as it may be, if you put yourself in the minds of the people who thought it was a great idea to expand NATO to the whole of Eastern Europe and then on to Ukraine and Georgia (!), the conclusion that they're willing to fight a shooting war with Russia in Ukraine becomes quite natural.

    I don't see any signs that Russia is capable of overwhelming the defense Ukraine has put up in the East with NATO's help. But if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and, as I argued above, Russia would only have one way to stop it.

    Replies: @LatW, @Derer, @Beckow

    Of course, now that their prophecy has fulfilled itself and they have indeed turned Russia into the nation willing to invade neighbors that they feared, they must be even more scared and they must actually think that their fears have been proven correct.

    Which neighbors did RusFed fear in 1991 or in 2007, or in 2014? If I understand correctly what is meant here… that RusFed feared anybody?

  305. The French uranium mining company Orano.. they halted operations in Niger (for some kind of political reasons, Wagner was involved there, too, they may have pushed them out, this is a recent development). But there are uranium fields in East Ukraine, too. Maybe they should research those opportunities there. It’s very precarious right now, but may not be entirely impossible in the future.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @LatW

    No, you misunderstand. It's the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.

    To be clear, Macron was nowhere near the people deciding matters during the expansion of NATO but, as we see everywhere, we live in times of group-think in the West. The elites have converged to a set of beliefs that they cannot deviate from. If anyone tries to, they're Russiagated or Engoroned. In times of more freedom of thought France was the first one to diverge from NATO's policies. I'm almost tempted to say that even the Communist block admitted more diversity of opinions, at least in the periphery, as shown by the cases of Yugoslavia, Romania and Albania.

    Replies: @sudden death, @LatW, @AP

  306. @AP
    @Beckow


    The Ukie war is another Euro quasi world war – it is an attempt by the Anglo-run Euro-superstate to expand to Ukraine and weaken Russia. It is very similar to the previous failed attempts
     
    Nonsense.

    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.

    Here you have Russia alone fighting against Ukraine alone (a few thousand volunteers don’t count) which in invaded, with Europe providing arms and money to the Ukrainians while the Iranians, North Koreans and Chinese supply the Russians.

    Almost nothing in common with Napoleon’s or Hitler’s eastward crusades other than Russia was at war with someone to the West of it.

    Closest analogue would be the Soviet Russian invasion of Poland in 1920, which Russia lost. Though this too has some differences.

    If the French and Brits got directly involved it might become a little bit like the Crimean War, which Russia lost.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    What a nonsense you are feeding us. This NATO proxy-war cannot be even remotely compared to your ad hoc examples. For one think the liberation of Ukraine from Ukie-nazi grip, supported by foreign vultures, will be successful.

  307. @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Don't want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)

    Within the West, my proposed negative filters would largely be based on the interests of Europeans. (Though I might tack a few things on, that is really the essential core.). In contrast, I have only heard him articulate a negative filter based on the interests of gays.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

    I’m not gay. I’m 95% straight, but with a slight bisexual lean (I only like femme/androgynous males, which rules out the overwhelming majority of them).

    I want people who are most likely to successfully integrate in the West, whether as a part of the West’s upper-classes, middle-classes, or lower-classes. The US’s historical experience with African-Americans (other than their Talented Tenth) and Western Europe’s recent experience with Muslims have both not been very encouraging, to put it mildly. But the US’s experience with Latin Americans, Russia’s historical experience with Central Asians, Israel’s experience with Mizrahi Jews, and Italy’s experience with southern Italians all appear to have gone somewhat better. Along with of course various examples of cognitively elitist immigration (including the mass immigration of people of partial Jewish descent who are not halakhically Jewish to Israel, whose numbers there (when combined with those of their Israeli-born descendants) have already exceeded half a million by now).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. XYZ

    If you suck one dick you are a faggot.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

  308. @Matra
    Le Pen's party looking good in the polls. Particularly impressive for legislative elections, usually a weak point for them.

    Don’t want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)
     
    So he's homosexual and Jewish? Are there any prominent homosexual Jews who are not hostile to the interests of Europeans?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I’m very open to supporting Le Pen in France if she will become as pro-Ukraine as Macron himself is. I don’t think that Muslim immigration to France has been a very good thing and thus seeing significant curbs on it would likely be a good idea. Seeing less people get killed over “Islamophobic” speech would certainly be a good idea. French whites should become like liberal Israeli Jews: Much more nationalistic but still committed to some degree of internal liberal pluralism (but with heavy immigration restrictions for Muslims). Israeli Muslims (as opposed to Palestinian Muslims) generally don’t cause all that much trouble in Israel, to my knowledge, unless it involves violence within their own communities, such as abusing or killing family members of theirs for something that shouldn’t matter (such as being LGBTQ+).

    I’m not gay. I don’t find the overwhelming majority of males attractive. Only some of those who are femme/androgynous.

    BTW, in regards to Latin Americans specifically, my own views are rather similar for immigration for the West and for Israel: 25+% Jewish or the immediate family member of one? Then you should be allowed to immigrate to Israel, especially if you don’t practice any religion other than Judaism. (This is actually what Israel’s current Law of Return does. Thankfully, the October 7 terrorist attack by Hamas caused stupid right-wing nationalistic bigoted Israeli Jewish politicians to shut up about trying to change the Law of Return, likely for a long time to come.) 25+% European or the immediate family member of one? Then you should be allowed to immigrate to the US/West. This would result in most Latin Americans qualifying for this. Of course, most Asians are not 25+% European, but even the alt-right has less objections towards them, at least towards East Asians, whom they sometimes and perhaps even often view as suitable waifu material for themselves.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    I don’t find the overwhelming majority of males attractive
     
    wouldn't most women say this? And wouldn't many men say the same of women?

    25+% European or the immediate family member of one?
     
    Several estimates peg the average Euro percentage of American blacks at somewhere between 20-25%. One study suggests they are 10% British.

    The US’s historical experience with African-Americans (other than their Talented Tenth
     
    The talented tenth were used as political props. From a political standpoint, it probably would have been better if they hadn't existed. That way, elite institutions wouldn't have been able to insulate themselves by using them.

    But the US’s experience with Latin Americans
     
    the US seems to have its border completely destroyed as a concept, due to Latin Americans. It has open borders now, with Mexico and thus the world. Inflation is really starting to take off, and I see no prospect of it getting back under control. It is not really part of the rhetoric anymore - I mean any realism about dealing with it.

    Given the political status of Europeans under the current regime. Demographic projections seem to paint a very hard future. Latins have really helped promote antiracism quite a lot.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  309. @AP
    @Beckow


    The Ukie war is another Euro quasi world war – it is an attempt by the Anglo-run Euro-superstate to expand to Ukraine and weaken Russia. It is very similar to the previous failed attempts
     
    Nonsense.

    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.

    Here you have Russia alone fighting against Ukraine alone (a few thousand volunteers don’t count) which in invaded, with Europe providing arms and money to the Ukrainians while the Iranians, North Koreans and Chinese supply the Russians.

    Almost nothing in common with Napoleon’s or Hitler’s eastward crusades other than Russia was at war with someone to the West of it.

    Closest analogue would be the Soviet Russian invasion of Poland in 1920, which Russia lost. Though this too has some differences.

    If the French and Brits got directly involved it might become a little bit like the Crimean War, which Russia lost.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    Here you have Russia alone fighting against Ukraine alone (a few thousand volunteers don’t count) which in invaded, with Europe providing arms and money to the Ukrainians while the Iranians, North Koreans and Chinese supply the Russians.

    Worth noting that the US and the rest of the developed Anglosphere are also arming Ukraine in the style of Lend-Lease. During WWII, they were strongly anti-Nazi. Even when the US itself was still neutral, it still provided significant help to the Allies through policies such as Cash-and-Carry and (later on) Lend-Lease.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    Correct. The point is that this is nothing like Russia or the USSR beig invaded by a massive French or Nazi Army.

    This is like the French providing massive supplies to the Poles when the Poles and Soviet Russians were at war in 1920. Except the Poles got everything, while Ukraine is being denied certain weapons. If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  310. @AP
    @Beckow


    The Ukie war is another Euro quasi world war – it is an attempt by the Anglo-run Euro-superstate to expand to Ukraine and weaken Russia. It is very similar to the previous failed attempts
     
    Nonsense.

    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.

    Here you have Russia alone fighting against Ukraine alone (a few thousand volunteers don’t count) which in invaded, with Europe providing arms and money to the Ukrainians while the Iranians, North Koreans and Chinese supply the Russians.

    Almost nothing in common with Napoleon’s or Hitler’s eastward crusades other than Russia was at war with someone to the West of it.

    Closest analogue would be the Soviet Russian invasion of Poland in 1920, which Russia lost. Though this too has some differences.

    If the French and Brits got directly involved it might become a little bit like the Crimean War, which Russia lost.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.

    What you wrote are lies – because you can’t be that ignorant. France attacked Russia in 1812 with support from all of Europe: Germany, Italy, Poland, Dutch-Belgians…only 1/3 of their army was French. AFTER the loss many switched sides, but it was an all-European army attacking Russia – and losing.

    Germany invaded Russia with Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Baltic countries and Western Ukies. France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Norway, etc…also sent troops – “volunteers” and all of Europe was busily arming the Nazis (including Sweden and Switzerland)….again almost all of Europe attacked Russia and lost.

    The posturing about France being against Germany is b..shit that Soviets agreed to in order to split the Western allies – there were more French fighting on the side of Nazis than against – the last holdout in Berlin was the French Charlemagne SS Division.

    This is very similar except the Westies have no balls to actually fight and are using the Ukies. They have no chance to win and your hallucinations about Poland or the Crimean war are just silly. This is a very different Russia and Europe. Pay attention.

    • Agree: Derer
    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    France attacked Russia in 1812 with support from all of Europe
     
    Which would make it even more unlike the current situation. Now, none of Europe is attacking Russia. They are just sending weapons to Ukraine. Like the French sent to the Poles in 1920.

    It just shows how stupid your comparison was.

    only 1/3 of their army was French.
     
    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_of_the_French_invasion_of_Russia

    Most of the allies were reluctant ones (Poles were not) who didn't play a central role and, as I said, abandoned Napoleon when they could.

    AFTER the loss many switched sides, but it was an all-European army attacking Russia
     
    I meant when Napoleon was finally defeated.

    Germany invaded Russia with Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Baltic countries and Western Ukies.
     
    You forgot Slovakia LOL.

    It was mostly Germany, and the allied efforts were mitigated by Germany having to occupy a hostile continent while also fighting the Brits and Free French.

    At any rate, the more you claim it was all Europe fighting the Soviets the more you show how stupid your comparison to the current war is.

    there were more French fighting on the side of Nazis than against
     
    Almost 13,000 French fought against Soviets:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_French_Volunteers_Against_Bolshevism#:~:text=The%20Legion%20of%20French%20Volunteers,of%20collaborationist%20volunteers%20from%20France.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_Charlemagne

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Free-French

    This does not include French resistance.

    If you want to include ethnic Germans from French Alsace/Lorraine who fought for the Germans - that was 130,000. Still far below the numbers of anti-German Free French fighters.

    You can't help but lie every time you make a claim.

    the last holdout in Berlin was the French Charlemagne SS Division
     
    About 300 of them there.

    Compared to 300,000 Free French.

    This is a very different Russia and Europe
     
    This is a Russia that no longer includes Ukraine or the Baltics (source of many Russian officers in the Napoleonic wars), and a Europe that is united but unwilling to fight.

    Again, the closest parallel is the 1920 Polish-Soviet war. Poles were fighting almost alone (French sent some advisors, and some Ukrainians helped them too) but were well equipped with the best French weapons, Soviets hadn't yet consolidated their rule over Ukraine and parts of the far east - so it was just most of Russia.

    But no comparison is exact, of course.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Philip Owen
    @Beckow

    Russia was an ally of France for most of the Napoleonic Wars. Tsar Alexander declared himself a keen supporter of republicanism for everywhere wxcept Russia which could only be ruled by a strong Tsar. He attempted to invade India in 1801. Russia never ends up on the right side voluntarily.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ

  311. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Here you have Russia alone fighting against Ukraine alone (a few thousand volunteers don’t count) which in invaded, with Europe providing arms and money to the Ukrainians while the Iranians, North Koreans and Chinese supply the Russians.
     
    Worth noting that the US and the rest of the developed Anglosphere are also arming Ukraine in the style of Lend-Lease. During WWII, they were strongly anti-Nazi. Even when the US itself was still neutral, it still provided significant help to the Allies through policies such as Cash-and-Carry and (later on) Lend-Lease.

    Replies: @AP

    Correct. The point is that this is nothing like Russia or the USSR beig invaded by a massive French or Nazi Army.

    This is like the French providing massive supplies to the Poles when the Poles and Soviet Russians were at war in 1920. Except the Poles got everything, while Ukraine is being denied certain weapons. If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.
     
    Unless China would have massively increased its own aid to Russia in response to such Western moves. China's total population and Nature Index production are both comparable to those of the West.

    Also, as a side note, even if Ukraine would have reconquered the Crimean Corridor, I don't think that it would have actually been willing to make peace in 2022 or 2023 (or likely even 2024) without a return of both Crimea and the Donbass. At least based on Ukrainian opinion polling. If Russia would have accepted Ukrainian NATO membership as a part of a grand bargain, though, then maybe Ukrainians would have been more willing to compromise on this. Maybe. Far from guaranteed.

    Replies: @AP

  312. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    I'm not gay. I'm 95% straight, but with a slight bisexual lean (I only like femme/androgynous males, which rules out the overwhelming majority of them).

    I want people who are most likely to successfully integrate in the West, whether as a part of the West's upper-classes, middle-classes, or lower-classes. The US's historical experience with African-Americans (other than their Talented Tenth) and Western Europe's recent experience with Muslims have both not been very encouraging, to put it mildly. But the US's experience with Latin Americans, Russia's historical experience with Central Asians, Israel's experience with Mizrahi Jews, and Italy's experience with southern Italians all appear to have gone somewhat better. Along with of course various examples of cognitively elitist immigration (including the mass immigration of people of partial Jewish descent who are not halakhically Jewish to Israel, whose numbers there (when combined with those of their Israeli-born descendants) have already exceeded half a million by now).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    If you suck one dick you are a faggot.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    They have different opinion in RF;)

    https://demotivatorium.ru/sstorage/3/2014/01/12230827101528/demotivatorium_ru_odin_raz__ne_pidoras_37195.jpg

    , @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    As the old saying goes, he's not gay but his boyfriend is. That is the least concerning of his deviancies though.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Emil Nikola Richard



    I never sucked any dick or stuck my dick in anyone's mouth or ass. So, not gay lol. I'm not interested in ever having any gay sex due to the huge STD risk involved.

  313. @LatW
    The French uranium mining company Orano.. they halted operations in Niger (for some kind of political reasons, Wagner was involved there, too, they may have pushed them out, this is a recent development). But there are uranium fields in East Ukraine, too. Maybe they should research those opportunities there. It's very precarious right now, but may not be entirely impossible in the future.

    Replies: @Mikel

    No, you misunderstand. It’s the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.

    To be clear, Macron was nowhere near the people deciding matters during the expansion of NATO but, as we see everywhere, we live in times of group-think in the West. The elites have converged to a set of beliefs that they cannot deviate from. If anyone tries to, they’re Russiagated or Engoroned. In times of more freedom of thought France was the first one to diverge from NATO’s policies. I’m almost tempted to say that even the Communist block admitted more diversity of opinions, at least in the periphery, as shown by the cases of Yugoslavia, Romania and Albania.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Mikel

    Today you have Hungary or Slovakia in periphery, but officially parroting Kremlin talking points word for word, not even mentioning USA potentially joining again too in autumn;)

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @LatW
    @Mikel


    But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself
     
    Not really. Not only were they not going to change their domestic political environment in line with basic NATO norms, they never viewed NATO as "their" structure.

    In times of more freedom of thought France was the first one to diverge from NATO’s policies.
     
    Tbh, this almost looks more reminiscent of that mentality that was characterized by their withdrawal from NATO military command structures. It might be part of the same mentality, just going in a different direction now (because of the aggravating situation). Nothing is concrete yet though, except some rhetoric. They do have their independent resources and sources of power, I'm not sure this is some kind of a "falling in line with NATO's policies" - in fact, most NATO countries disagreed about using the troops. Of course, they will look for some kind of an alignment, as seen by these recent meetings they've had.
    , @AP
    @Mikel

    Sure, you the Basque living in the USA knows more about Russia and Eastern Europe than do Russians and Eastern Europeans themselves.

    Russians viewed the 1990 collapse of the Soviet system as a geopolitical tragedy (certainly, the elite did) which was to be overcome once Russia got back on its feet. And Eastern Europeans have had centuries of experience with Russian expansionism. Both sides understood that Russia when given the chance would want to expand westward, at minimum to reabsorb Belarus and Ukraine (and maybe the Baltics, though they were viewed as fairly small and unimportant so their "independence" could be tolerated) and ideally to keep Poland, Baltics, etc. as a Russia-influenced buffer zone.

    Eastern Euros wanted to join NATO in order to preserve their independence from Russia and keep ironclad their new status as part of the West. Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower. None of these saw NATO as a springboard from which to actually invade Russia, a country capable of destroying everyone with its nukes.


    It’s the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.
     
    Russian wishes to expand preceded NATO so no "self-fulfilling prophesy." But outrageous Russian behavior (invading European countries in order to try to by force recreate a Russian or Soviet empire) may be a self-fulfilling prophecy if it provokes NATO troops or NATO missiles/planes into fighting against Russia directly.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

  314. @Mikel
    @LatW

    No, you misunderstand. It's the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.

    To be clear, Macron was nowhere near the people deciding matters during the expansion of NATO but, as we see everywhere, we live in times of group-think in the West. The elites have converged to a set of beliefs that they cannot deviate from. If anyone tries to, they're Russiagated or Engoroned. In times of more freedom of thought France was the first one to diverge from NATO's policies. I'm almost tempted to say that even the Communist block admitted more diversity of opinions, at least in the periphery, as shown by the cases of Yugoslavia, Romania and Albania.

    Replies: @sudden death, @LatW, @AP

    Today you have Hungary or Slovakia in periphery, but officially parroting Kremlin talking points word for word, not even mentioning USA potentially joining again too in autumn;)

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @sudden death


    Today you have Hungary or Slovakia in periphery, but officially parroting Kremlin talking points word for word
     
    They're allowed to parrot but when important decisions must be taken, like voting for Sweden and Finland joining NATO against Russia, they're forced to eat their words and stick to the party line. Thanks for providing a good example of the Commies being more lenient in Soviet times.

    Replies: @LatW

  315. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. XYZ

    If you suck one dick you are a faggot.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

    They have different opinion in RF;)

  316. @Beckow
    @AP


    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.
     

    What you wrote are lies - because you can't be that ignorant. France attacked Russia in 1812 with support from all of Europe: Germany, Italy, Poland, Dutch-Belgians...only 1/3 of their army was French. AFTER the loss many switched sides, but it was an all-European army attacking Russia - and losing.

    Germany invaded Russia with Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Baltic countries and Western Ukies. France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Norway, etc...also sent troops - "volunteers" and all of Europe was busily arming the Nazis (including Sweden and Switzerland)....again almost all of Europe attacked Russia and lost.

    The posturing about France being against Germany is b..shit that Soviets agreed to in order to split the Western allies - there were more French fighting on the side of Nazis than against - the last holdout in Berlin was the French Charlemagne SS Division.

    This is very similar except the Westies have no balls to actually fight and are using the Ukies. They have no chance to win and your hallucinations about Poland or the Crimean war are just silly. This is a very different Russia and Europe. Pay attention.

    Replies: @AP, @Philip Owen

    France attacked Russia in 1812 with support from all of Europe

    Which would make it even more unlike the current situation. Now, none of Europe is attacking Russia. They are just sending weapons to Ukraine. Like the French sent to the Poles in 1920.

    It just shows how stupid your comparison was.

    only 1/3 of their army was French.

    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_of_the_French_invasion_of_Russia

    Most of the allies were reluctant ones (Poles were not) who didn’t play a central role and, as I said, abandoned Napoleon when they could.

    AFTER the loss many switched sides, but it was an all-European army attacking Russia

    I meant when Napoleon was finally defeated.

    Germany invaded Russia with Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Baltic countries and Western Ukies.

    You forgot Slovakia LOL.

    It was mostly Germany, and the allied efforts were mitigated by Germany having to occupy a hostile continent while also fighting the Brits and Free French.

    At any rate, the more you claim it was all Europe fighting the Soviets the more you show how stupid your comparison to the current war is.

    there were more French fighting on the side of Nazis than against

    Almost 13,000 French fought against Soviets:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_French_Volunteers_Against_Bolshevism#:~:text=The%20Legion%20of%20French%20Volunteers,of%20collaborationist%20volunteers%20from%20France.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_Charlemagne

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Free-French

    This does not include French resistance.

    If you want to include ethnic Germans from French Alsace/Lorraine who fought for the Germans – that was 130,000. Still far below the numbers of anti-German Free French fighters.

    You can’t help but lie every time you make a claim.

    the last holdout in Berlin was the French Charlemagne SS Division

    About 300 of them there.

    Compared to 300,000 Free French.

    This is a very different Russia and Europe

    This is a Russia that no longer includes Ukraine or the Baltics (source of many Russian officers in the Napoleonic wars), and a Europe that is united but unwilling to fight.

    Again, the closest parallel is the 1920 Polish-Soviet war. Poles were fighting almost alone (French sent some advisors, and some Ukrainians helped them too) but were well equipped with the best French weapons, Soviets hadn’t yet consolidated their rule over Ukraine and parts of the far east – so it was just most of Russia.

    But no comparison is exact, of course.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French
     
    I did the math, 255k out of 643k were French, it was 39% - I was closer...:)

    Only around 30k made it back, it was a total wipe-out. I am glad that the Poles were enthusiastic, it made dying in Russia for the glory of France more palatable. Maybe they can do it again.

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany
     
    Haha, good one...When? In May 1945? There were 177 French troops (177!) in the Normandy invasion. A few thousand others here and there, but the bulk of Free French only materialized when the war was over - after it was won by Russia in the east. The Frenchies were either cowards or fought for the Nazis.

    On the Nazi side was not only the French SS Division and the Frenchies from Alsace-Lorraine, but a few hundred thousand Vichy soldiers, gendarmes, police, etc...The "Resistance" was full of non-French partisans: Spaniards, Jews, foreigners and communists. You are lying again, making up myths.

    You keep on going back to Poland in 1920, just very stupid. I agree that none of the analogies are correct - this is a new situation. But the Western Euros impulse to attack Russia seems eternal. So does the Polish-Galician desire to be the cannon fodder to be praised by their Westie masters. This one is almost comical - the Euros are so non-committal that one wonders why did they start the whole "Nato-in-Ukraine" madness. The ending will be the same as always, I don't have to spell it out for you.

    Replies: @AP

  317. @Mikel
    @LatW

    No, you misunderstand. It's the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.

    To be clear, Macron was nowhere near the people deciding matters during the expansion of NATO but, as we see everywhere, we live in times of group-think in the West. The elites have converged to a set of beliefs that they cannot deviate from. If anyone tries to, they're Russiagated or Engoroned. In times of more freedom of thought France was the first one to diverge from NATO's policies. I'm almost tempted to say that even the Communist block admitted more diversity of opinions, at least in the periphery, as shown by the cases of Yugoslavia, Romania and Albania.

    Replies: @sudden death, @LatW, @AP

    But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself

    Not really. Not only were they not going to change their domestic political environment in line with basic NATO norms, they never viewed NATO as “their” structure.

    In times of more freedom of thought France was the first one to diverge from NATO’s policies.

    Tbh, this almost looks more reminiscent of that mentality that was characterized by their withdrawal from NATO military command structures. It might be part of the same mentality, just going in a different direction now (because of the aggravating situation). Nothing is concrete yet though, except some rhetoric. They do have their independent resources and sources of power, I’m not sure this is some kind of a “falling in line with NATO’s policies” – in fact, most NATO countries disagreed about using the troops. Of course, they will look for some kind of an alignment, as seen by these recent meetings they’ve had.

  318. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. XYZ

    If you suck one dick you are a faggot.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

    As the old saying goes, he’s not gay but his boyfriend is. That is the least concerning of his deviancies though.

  319. @sudden death
    @Mikel

    Today you have Hungary or Slovakia in periphery, but officially parroting Kremlin talking points word for word, not even mentioning USA potentially joining again too in autumn;)

    Replies: @Mikel

    Today you have Hungary or Slovakia in periphery, but officially parroting Kremlin talking points word for word

    They’re allowed to parrot but when important decisions must be taken, like voting for Sweden and Finland joining NATO against Russia, they’re forced to eat their words and stick to the party line. Thanks for providing a good example of the Commies being more lenient in Soviet times.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mikel

    Well, the Slovaks did just have a rather noticeable pro-Ukrainian demo, so they are not even all that pro-Russian, at least not all of them. Of course, one demo is not policy, but still.

  320. @Mikel
    @Beckow

    You keep finding optimistic interpretations of Macron's threats but I don't see much scope for optimism. I guess there are many ways to interpret what he keeps saying but to me the most plausible one is very simple: a NATO leader is threatening to send troops to fight Russia for the same reason that the NATO leaders thought that it was necessary to encroach Russia militarily by expanding NATO as close to Russia as they could. You can't fully understand the former without understanding the latter.

    I don't agree with some of your views on Russia (or Poland) but I think we both agree that that military expansion when the threat to the West had finally disappeared was reckless and incomprehensible. However, it was not something that we hoi polloi had any say on. Whatever we understand or fail to understand, our betters decided that Russia was still a threat to us (for historical, genetic or who knows what reasons) that had to be contained. That probably went along with the idea that history had stopped and from now on only one big world superpower of like-minded globalist democracies was tolerable, as we saw in the other adventures they embarked on.

    Of course, now that their prophecy has fulfilled itself and they have indeed turned Russia into the nation willing to invade neighbors that they feared, they must be even more scared and they must actually think that their fears have been proven correct. The contrary would be admitting that they did something wrong, which these types are too arrogant to do. So they can't contemplate the idea that Russia may to some extent or another defeat the Ukraine-NATO coalition they have built. Difficult as it may be, if you put yourself in the minds of the people who thought it was a great idea to expand NATO to the whole of Eastern Europe and then on to Ukraine and Georgia (!), the conclusion that they're willing to fight a shooting war with Russia in Ukraine becomes quite natural.

    I don't see any signs that Russia is capable of overwhelming the defense Ukraine has put up in the East with NATO's help. But if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and, as I argued above, Russia would only have one way to stop it.

    Replies: @LatW, @Derer, @Beckow

    the conclusion that they’re willing to fight a shooting war with Russia in Ukraine becomes quite natural.

    Only until last Ukrainian. At this stage of the conflict the Russia will dictate the conditions of the settlement. At the beginning there was a window for negotiation. This is a violent divorce of two members from the same union and does not compare to the US many invasions. It was Yeltsin ignorance at the hasty disintegration of the Soviets.

  321. @Mikel
    @sudden death


    Today you have Hungary or Slovakia in periphery, but officially parroting Kremlin talking points word for word
     
    They're allowed to parrot but when important decisions must be taken, like voting for Sweden and Finland joining NATO against Russia, they're forced to eat their words and stick to the party line. Thanks for providing a good example of the Commies being more lenient in Soviet times.

    Replies: @LatW

    Well, the Slovaks did just have a rather noticeable pro-Ukrainian demo, so they are not even all that pro-Russian, at least not all of them. Of course, one demo is not policy, but still.

  322. @Beckow
    @LatW

    It's the right side up: you are not allowed in the inner circle without a ritual denunciation of Russia. La Pen is inching to 'respectability', so it is compulsory. It also makes no difference to what happens - same as with the duce-fan-Giorgina, they are walk-ins to perform a scripted role.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:


    ...the best strategic ambiguity is silence.
     
    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident. It is a scripted Nato attempt to negotiate an acceptable end to the war. Two conditions that Macron repeats:
    - "Russia must not win". He doesn't say that Kiev or Nato win - he is only asking for a face saving way to end it.
    - Keep Odessa in Ukraine - Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa. But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.

    It seems reasonable. The question is whether Russia will agree and the details. No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with "Odessa". And the ability to pretend that Russia didn't win, that's the most important thing.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have...

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel, @Wokechoke

    So the French are sending troops into Donbas and need willing white boys doing it?

  323. Apparently, the scoliosis seen in dolphins is often the result of attempted infanticide by rogue males. From ramming or throwing them into the air. Perhaps, that in whales is the result of orca attacks on calves?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird

    The male polar bears attack their cubs, too. Their own cubs, I think. To avoid future competition? Total bummer. :(

    Replies: @songbird

  324. The Zionist handlers of Macron are putting pressure on him now to sacrifice French “goy Golems” to see their project Ukraine through.

    These criminal scum have been salivating with knife and fork in hand in anticipation of the carve-up of Russia.

    Isn’t it time the moron goy woke up and carved up them?

  325. @Mikel
    @Beckow

    You keep finding optimistic interpretations of Macron's threats but I don't see much scope for optimism. I guess there are many ways to interpret what he keeps saying but to me the most plausible one is very simple: a NATO leader is threatening to send troops to fight Russia for the same reason that the NATO leaders thought that it was necessary to encroach Russia militarily by expanding NATO as close to Russia as they could. You can't fully understand the former without understanding the latter.

    I don't agree with some of your views on Russia (or Poland) but I think we both agree that that military expansion when the threat to the West had finally disappeared was reckless and incomprehensible. However, it was not something that we hoi polloi had any say on. Whatever we understand or fail to understand, our betters decided that Russia was still a threat to us (for historical, genetic or who knows what reasons) that had to be contained. That probably went along with the idea that history had stopped and from now on only one big world superpower of like-minded globalist democracies was tolerable, as we saw in the other adventures they embarked on.

    Of course, now that their prophecy has fulfilled itself and they have indeed turned Russia into the nation willing to invade neighbors that they feared, they must be even more scared and they must actually think that their fears have been proven correct. The contrary would be admitting that they did something wrong, which these types are too arrogant to do. So they can't contemplate the idea that Russia may to some extent or another defeat the Ukraine-NATO coalition they have built. Difficult as it may be, if you put yourself in the minds of the people who thought it was a great idea to expand NATO to the whole of Eastern Europe and then on to Ukraine and Georgia (!), the conclusion that they're willing to fight a shooting war with Russia in Ukraine becomes quite natural.

    I don't see any signs that Russia is capable of overwhelming the defense Ukraine has put up in the East with NATO's help. But if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and, as I argued above, Russia would only have one way to stop it.

    Replies: @LatW, @Derer, @Beckow

    …if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and Russia would only have one way to stop it.

    Probably, but it is possible to bleed them to death – Nato is very averse to casualties. It would take too long, so it would most likely go nuclear.

    I am an optimist so I looked for some positive stuff in what Macron said or didn’t say, but Macron is not the decision maker nor is he consistent. He looks like a headless chicken running around. But he let out some interesting stuff that I described above.

    Wars, especially catastrophic wars, should be about serious, existential stuff. There is no way the need to expand Nato to Ukraine is existential for the West – it is a war of choice. The smarter ones had to know that it will end in a war with Russia, they either chose to bluff or for some reason wanted the war.

    Macron was dancing wildly like a drunken pre-teen, he even commented on what he was himself saying, very bizarre, it completely lacked gravitas. He should just shut up.

    This is only existential for Russia. For Ukraine any compromise like the Minsk deal or Istanbul were painful but wouldn’t change the nature of their state or what they want to do with EU. For the West it was a choice – surround Russia. Not out of fear but to be able to strangle, threaten, to turn Russia into a weak state that can be dictated to.

    Russia will not surrender. Macron says that Nato will also refuse to give up. That is crazy, we will evaporate at the end out of stubborness.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    The Daily Mail is writing about Mrs. Macron being a dude.

    , @Mikel
    @Beckow


    Nato is very averse to casualties.
     
    As I see it, that is an additional problem.

    Based on an impartial analysis of what we've seen so far, I think that a well coordinated NATO intervention in Ukraine with all their military power would push the Russians back very quickly, even if the US stands aside. But if the Russians managed to hold the lines, we're not going to see many thousands of French and other Western Europeans returning home maimed or dead like the Ukrainians, for the reason you've just stated. They would escalate and, quite frankly, they did a good job at surrounding Russia, they can inflict pain from several sides. What's more, the closest NATO members to Russia are the most eager to settle scores with them. Macron's fantasies have no possible happy ending (no pun intended).

    Replies: @Beckow

  326. @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and Russia would only have one way to stop it.
     
    Probably, but it is possible to bleed them to death - Nato is very averse to casualties. It would take too long, so it would most likely go nuclear.

    I am an optimist so I looked for some positive stuff in what Macron said or didn't say, but Macron is not the decision maker nor is he consistent. He looks like a headless chicken running around. But he let out some interesting stuff that I described above.

    Wars, especially catastrophic wars, should be about serious, existential stuff. There is no way the need to expand Nato to Ukraine is existential for the West - it is a war of choice. The smarter ones had to know that it will end in a war with Russia, they either chose to bluff or for some reason wanted the war.

    Macron was dancing wildly like a drunken pre-teen, he even commented on what he was himself saying, very bizarre, it completely lacked gravitas. He should just shut up.

    This is only existential for Russia. For Ukraine any compromise like the Minsk deal or Istanbul were painful but wouldn't change the nature of their state or what they want to do with EU. For the West it was a choice - surround Russia. Not out of fear but to be able to strangle, threaten, to turn Russia into a weak state that can be dictated to.

    Russia will not surrender. Macron says that Nato will also refuse to give up. That is crazy, we will evaporate at the end out of stubborness.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel

    The Daily Mail is writing about Mrs. Macron being a dude.

  327. @songbird
    Apparently, the scoliosis seen in dolphins is often the result of attempted infanticide by rogue males. From ramming or throwing them into the air. Perhaps, that in whales is the result of orca attacks on calves?

    Replies: @LatW

    The male polar bears attack their cubs, too. Their own cubs, I think. To avoid future competition? Total bummer. 🙁

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    A lot of belugas have polar bear scars.

    This guy claims if you squeeze the flipper of a gray seal, they will squeeze your hand back. But as cute as they look, they also are known to eat gray seal infants.

    https://youtu.be/KCoeoSgWGMo?si=2xOeMHRnx0PCGso_

    It is crazy how long some of the carnivores in these places will eat a big dead whale for. How desperate are they?
    https://youtu.be/gsXeA_aOzog?si=qveijAjiKHhPcetW

  328. @Mr. XYZ
    @Matra

    I'm very open to supporting Le Pen in France if she will become as pro-Ukraine as Macron himself is. I don't think that Muslim immigration to France has been a very good thing and thus seeing significant curbs on it would likely be a good idea. Seeing less people get killed over "Islamophobic" speech would certainly be a good idea. French whites should become like liberal Israeli Jews: Much more nationalistic but still committed to some degree of internal liberal pluralism (but with heavy immigration restrictions for Muslims). Israeli Muslims (as opposed to Palestinian Muslims) generally don't cause all that much trouble in Israel, to my knowledge, unless it involves violence within their own communities, such as abusing or killing family members of theirs for something that shouldn't matter (such as being LGBTQ+).

    I'm not gay. I don't find the overwhelming majority of males attractive. Only some of those who are femme/androgynous.

    BTW, in regards to Latin Americans specifically, my own views are rather similar for immigration for the West and for Israel: 25+% Jewish or the immediate family member of one? Then you should be allowed to immigrate to Israel, especially if you don't practice any religion other than Judaism. (This is actually what Israel's current Law of Return does. Thankfully, the October 7 terrorist attack by Hamas caused stupid right-wing nationalistic bigoted Israeli Jewish politicians to shut up about trying to change the Law of Return, likely for a long time to come.) 25+% European or the immediate family member of one? Then you should be allowed to immigrate to the US/West. This would result in most Latin Americans qualifying for this. Of course, most Asians are not 25+% European, but even the alt-right has less objections towards them, at least towards East Asians, whom they sometimes and perhaps even often view as suitable waifu material for themselves.

    Replies: @songbird

    I don’t find the overwhelming majority of males attractive

    wouldn’t most women say this? And wouldn’t many men say the same of women?

    25+% European or the immediate family member of one?

    Several estimates peg the average Euro percentage of American blacks at somewhere between 20-25%. One study suggests they are 10% British.

    The US’s historical experience with African-Americans (other than their Talented Tenth

    The talented tenth were used as political props. From a political standpoint, it probably would have been better if they hadn’t existed. That way, elite institutions wouldn’t have been able to insulate themselves by using them.

    But the US’s experience with Latin Americans

    the US seems to have its border completely destroyed as a concept, due to Latin Americans. It has open borders now, with Mexico and thus the world. Inflation is really starting to take off, and I see no prospect of it getting back under control. It is not really part of the rhetoric anymore – I mean any realism about dealing with it.

    Given the political status of Europeans under the current regime. Demographic projections seem to paint a very hard future. Latins have really helped promote antiracism quite a lot.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    wouldn’t most women say this? And wouldn’t many men say the same of women?

     

    Maybe but there are still many, many more women whom I find attractive relative to men. And the men whom I do find attractive often look like women at least somewhat.

    I find male puberty a huge turnoff (I don't like it on my own body either) and think that men are most attractive when they minimize the effect of male puberty on their bodies (laser hair removal en masse, et cetera), other than of course the tall height.


    Several estimates peg the average Euro percentage of American blacks at somewhere between 20-25%. One study suggests they are 10% British.

     

    Yes, and African-Americans certainly belong here both because of this and also because of everything that they and their ancestors have endured in the past. But unfortunately a sizable percentage of them are not model citizens, to put it mildly. There are many of them who are, even in the working-class, but there are a lot of bad apples among them, unfortunately, especially in the ghetto underclass.

    I think that it's entirely legitimate for a white ethnostate Israeli-style immigration policy to also admit blacks who are 25+% European or the immediate family members of someone who is. Thankfully, most Sub-Saharan African blacks do not qualify for this to my knowledge. Likely the overwhelming majority of them don't qualify for this.


    The talented tenth were used as political props. From a political standpoint, it probably would have been better if they hadn’t existed. That way, elite institutions wouldn’t have been able to insulate themselves by using them.

     

    Well, I think that there is also a desire by US elites (including white ones) to have black friends, and without the Talented Tenth or elite black immigrants, this would likely be considerably harder for them to do.

    My own view on affirmative action is that the higher the stakes (neurosurgery, et cetera), the less justification there is for using it. For lower-stakes jobs, I would be more supportive, but not simply based on race (which I'm wary about but I could see some justification for it to compensate blacks for racial profiling by police, which I do believe is justified in order to save lives--with me viewing Defund the Police as a stupid and crazy movement that would be especially bad for law-abiding blacks themselves), but also based on income, disability (ADHD, autism, et cetera), et cetera.


    the US seems to have its border completely destroyed as a concept, due to Latin Americans. It has open borders now, with Mexico and thus the world. Inflation is really starting to take off, and I see no prospect of it getting back under control. It is not really part of the rhetoric anymore – I mean any realism about dealing with it.
     
    Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have extremely massive immigration and yet don't have a consistently chronic inflation problem, do they? For that matter, did the mass immigration of Jews from the Arab world post-Israeli independence actually destroy Israel's economy?

    I do agree that we need to strongly fight inflation. I'm just unsure that immigrants are to blame here. How specifically are they to blame here?


    Given the political status of Europeans under the current regime. Demographic projections seem to paint a very hard future. Latins have really helped promote antiracism quite a lot.
     
    That's because it's no longer prestigious to identify as white. Frankly, this needs to change. Whiteness needs to be something that people are once again proud of, like in Latin America, I suppose.

    Some Latino are shifting towards Trump, whom I dislike but a fact which you might nevertheless enjoy:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/14/us/politics/trump-biden-campaign-latino-voters.html

    I suspect that Trump's gains among Latino and black men are due to the GOP becoming more of a prole party, at least in terms of its style, if not necessarily its substance.

    Replies: @songbird

  329. @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...if the fronts start to collapse, a NATO intervention is looking very likely and Russia would only have one way to stop it.
     
    Probably, but it is possible to bleed them to death - Nato is very averse to casualties. It would take too long, so it would most likely go nuclear.

    I am an optimist so I looked for some positive stuff in what Macron said or didn't say, but Macron is not the decision maker nor is he consistent. He looks like a headless chicken running around. But he let out some interesting stuff that I described above.

    Wars, especially catastrophic wars, should be about serious, existential stuff. There is no way the need to expand Nato to Ukraine is existential for the West - it is a war of choice. The smarter ones had to know that it will end in a war with Russia, they either chose to bluff or for some reason wanted the war.

    Macron was dancing wildly like a drunken pre-teen, he even commented on what he was himself saying, very bizarre, it completely lacked gravitas. He should just shut up.

    This is only existential for Russia. For Ukraine any compromise like the Minsk deal or Istanbul were painful but wouldn't change the nature of their state or what they want to do with EU. For the West it was a choice - surround Russia. Not out of fear but to be able to strangle, threaten, to turn Russia into a weak state that can be dictated to.

    Russia will not surrender. Macron says that Nato will also refuse to give up. That is crazy, we will evaporate at the end out of stubborness.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel

    Nato is very averse to casualties.

    As I see it, that is an additional problem.

    Based on an impartial analysis of what we’ve seen so far, I think that a well coordinated NATO intervention in Ukraine with all their military power would push the Russians back very quickly, even if the US stands aside. But if the Russians managed to hold the lines, we’re not going to see many thousands of French and other Western Europeans returning home maimed or dead like the Ukrainians, for the reason you’ve just stated. They would escalate and, quite frankly, they did a good job at surrounding Russia, they can inflict pain from several sides. What’s more, the closest NATO members to Russia are the most eager to settle scores with them. Macron’s fantasies have no possible happy ending (no pun intended).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...well coordinated NATO intervention in Ukraine with all their military power would push the Russians back very quickly
     
    I doubt it. Nato without US and Turkey is weak in land warfare. To "push back" would lead to substantial casualties and in the huge territories gaining a few dozen miles is not decisive. You overestimate Euros' military power. Russia has been using less than 1/4 of their forces, they have reserves. Most likely it would go nukes quickly.

    they did a good job at surrounding Russia...the closest NATO members to Russia are the most eager to settle scores with them.
     
    Actually not good at all. Russia is only surrounded from the West: Finland, Baltics, Poland, Romania. Nato failed to surround from the south: Turkey and Georgia are neutral for now, Caucasus are quiet. Color revolutions in Belarus, Kazakhstan and Kirgizia failed and China is with Russia - there would be no attack in the east.

    The angry Nato-ids eager to settle scores have to attack against the defensible western border. It would be a bloodbath. I can't imagine the Finns attacking and going through Belarus would be very hard (the mustache guy can be tough). That leaves Kaliningrad and Transnistria. The first one would lead to a nuclear war (for sure) and the second one is strategically insignificant.

    They can dream about settling scores and talk big but the reality is that armies are run by adults and no professional soldier will agree to risk it. I still don't quite get how the Ukie military was convinced to go for this - it is an unnecessary bloodbath for unachievable goals with Russia holding the escalation cards. How stupid have the arm-chair warriors become....

  330. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    Nato is very averse to casualties.
     
    As I see it, that is an additional problem.

    Based on an impartial analysis of what we've seen so far, I think that a well coordinated NATO intervention in Ukraine with all their military power would push the Russians back very quickly, even if the US stands aside. But if the Russians managed to hold the lines, we're not going to see many thousands of French and other Western Europeans returning home maimed or dead like the Ukrainians, for the reason you've just stated. They would escalate and, quite frankly, they did a good job at surrounding Russia, they can inflict pain from several sides. What's more, the closest NATO members to Russia are the most eager to settle scores with them. Macron's fantasies have no possible happy ending (no pun intended).

    Replies: @Beckow

    …well coordinated NATO intervention in Ukraine with all their military power would push the Russians back very quickly

    I doubt it. Nato without US and Turkey is weak in land warfare. To “push back” would lead to substantial casualties and in the huge territories gaining a few dozen miles is not decisive. You overestimate Euros’ military power. Russia has been using less than 1/4 of their forces, they have reserves. Most likely it would go nukes quickly.

    they did a good job at surrounding Russia…the closest NATO members to Russia are the most eager to settle scores with them.

    Actually not good at all. Russia is only surrounded from the West: Finland, Baltics, Poland, Romania. Nato failed to surround from the south: Turkey and Georgia are neutral for now, Caucasus are quiet. Color revolutions in Belarus, Kazakhstan and Kirgizia failed and China is with Russia – there would be no attack in the east.

    The angry Nato-ids eager to settle scores have to attack against the defensible western border. It would be a bloodbath. I can’t imagine the Finns attacking and going through Belarus would be very hard (the mustache guy can be tough). That leaves Kaliningrad and Transnistria. The first one would lead to a nuclear war (for sure) and the second one is strategically insignificant.

    They can dream about settling scores and talk big but the reality is that armies are run by adults and no professional soldier will agree to risk it. I still don’t quite get how the Ukie military was convinced to go for this – it is an unnecessary bloodbath for unachievable goals with Russia holding the escalation cards. How stupid have the arm-chair warriors become….

  331. @AP
    @Beckow


    France attacked Russia in 1812 with support from all of Europe
     
    Which would make it even more unlike the current situation. Now, none of Europe is attacking Russia. They are just sending weapons to Ukraine. Like the French sent to the Poles in 1920.

    It just shows how stupid your comparison was.

    only 1/3 of their army was French.
     
    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_of_the_French_invasion_of_Russia

    Most of the allies were reluctant ones (Poles were not) who didn't play a central role and, as I said, abandoned Napoleon when they could.

    AFTER the loss many switched sides, but it was an all-European army attacking Russia
     
    I meant when Napoleon was finally defeated.

    Germany invaded Russia with Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Baltic countries and Western Ukies.
     
    You forgot Slovakia LOL.

    It was mostly Germany, and the allied efforts were mitigated by Germany having to occupy a hostile continent while also fighting the Brits and Free French.

    At any rate, the more you claim it was all Europe fighting the Soviets the more you show how stupid your comparison to the current war is.

    there were more French fighting on the side of Nazis than against
     
    Almost 13,000 French fought against Soviets:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_French_Volunteers_Against_Bolshevism#:~:text=The%20Legion%20of%20French%20Volunteers,of%20collaborationist%20volunteers%20from%20France.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_Charlemagne

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Free-French

    This does not include French resistance.

    If you want to include ethnic Germans from French Alsace/Lorraine who fought for the Germans - that was 130,000. Still far below the numbers of anti-German Free French fighters.

    You can't help but lie every time you make a claim.

    the last holdout in Berlin was the French Charlemagne SS Division
     
    About 300 of them there.

    Compared to 300,000 Free French.

    This is a very different Russia and Europe
     
    This is a Russia that no longer includes Ukraine or the Baltics (source of many Russian officers in the Napoleonic wars), and a Europe that is united but unwilling to fight.

    Again, the closest parallel is the 1920 Polish-Soviet war. Poles were fighting almost alone (French sent some advisors, and some Ukrainians helped them too) but were well equipped with the best French weapons, Soviets hadn't yet consolidated their rule over Ukraine and parts of the far east - so it was just most of Russia.

    But no comparison is exact, of course.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French

    I did the math, 255k out of 643k were French, it was 39% – I was closer…:)

    Only around 30k made it back, it was a total wipe-out. I am glad that the Poles were enthusiastic, it made dying in Russia for the glory of France more palatable. Maybe they can do it again.

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany

    Haha, good one…When? In May 1945? There were 177 French troops (177!) in the Normandy invasion. A few thousand others here and there, but the bulk of Free French only materialized when the war was over – after it was won by Russia in the east. The Frenchies were either cowards or fought for the Nazis.

    On the Nazi side was not only the French SS Division and the Frenchies from Alsace-Lorraine, but a few hundred thousand Vichy soldiers, gendarmes, police, etc…The “Resistance” was full of non-French partisans: Spaniards, Jews, foreigners and communists. You are lying again, making up myths.

    You keep on going back to Poland in 1920, just very stupid. I agree that none of the analogies are correct – this is a new situation. But the Western Euros impulse to attack Russia seems eternal. So does the Polish-Galician desire to be the cannon fodder to be praised by their Westie masters. This one is almost comical – the Euros are so non-committal that one wonders why did they start the whole “Nato-in-Ukraine” madness. The ending will be the same as always, I don’t have to spell it out for you.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French

    I did the math, 255k out of 643k were French, it was 39% – I was closer…:)
     
    You didn't read further, not all of those crossed the border. And the 255k didn't include French from Belgium which was part of France under Napoleon.

    From the article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_of_the_French_invasion_of_Russia

    "After a whole day of preparation by Morand and Eblé, the invasion commenced on Midsummer, 24 June 1812 with Napoleon's army crossing the river. Half of them were foreigners"

    "Georges Lefebvre suggested that Napoleon crossed the Neman with over 600,000 soldiers, only half of whom were from France."

    "Riehn provides the following figures: 685,000 men marched into Russia in 1812, of whom around 355,000 were French; 31,000 soldiers marched out again in some sort of military formation, with perhaps another 35,000 stragglers, for a total of less than 70,000 known survivors."

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany

    Haha, good one…When? In May 1945?
     
    You lie as always.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Free-French

    More than 100,000 Free French troops fought in the Anglo-American campaign in Italy in 1943, and, by the time of the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944, the Free French forces had swelled to more than 300,000 regular troops. They were almost wholly American-equipped and supplied. In August 1944 the Free French 1st Army, under General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny, took part in the Allies’ invasion of southern France, driving thence northeastward into Alsace before joining in the Western Allies’ final thrust into Germany.

    On the Nazi side was not only the French SS Division and the Frenchies from Alsace-Lorraine, but a few hundred thousand Vichy soldiers, gendarmes, police,
     
    These weren't fighting the Soviets and sat in the unoccupied parts of France and colonies.

    So about 15,000 French joined the Germans in fighting against the Soviets (plus 130,000 ethnic Germans from Alsace-Lorraine) - versus about 300,000 French fighting against the Germans. Far more French fought against the Germans than fought against the Soviets.

    You keep on going back to Poland in 1920,
     
    Because it is the closest analogue to the current situation, though it is of course not a perfect match.

    The ending will be the same as always
     
    Soviet Russia was driven out of Poland in 1920-1921.

    Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Same as always?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Coconuts

  332. S1 says:
    @LatW
    @LatW


    So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group… geez, where is their self-respect – maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron’s recent rhetoric).
     
    I mean, think about how the French must be feeling. They left their colonies long ago, gave up their dominance (even if they left some patronage and economic ties), but then RusFed is going to start colonial wars on the doorstep of the EU in the 21st century and even threaten the EU? That's just scandalous.

    Not saying this is how their public feels (many of them may not care, although we don't have a proper recent analysis of it), but the leaders might be feeling that way. That's what it looks like to an outsider at least.

    Replies: @S1

    So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group… geez, where is their self-respect – maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron’s recent rhetoric).

    I think Macron tells the French public whatever he thinks will sell them on his projects, not that he necessarily believes his own rhetoric.

    As for himself, he has his orders, and those orders are to prepare not ‘just’ France, but much of the rest of Europe as well, for war with Russia. It’s all about the creation of a global super-state, or ’empire’ as they sometimes call it, which by and large in theory precludes autarky, and ‘peoplehood’, which is anathema to those promoting a world state, and this is so even if that ‘peoplehood’ may well largely consist of empty symbolism. This new world war they have in the works is intended to wipe out the remnants of peoplehood and autarky..at least for most.

    [France after the final defeat of Napoleon in 1815 was reduced to being a satellite empire of the far more powerful British Empire. I know, I too used to think the latter 19th century French were the loyal opposition to the British, with Africa split roughly evenly between them. Then it sank home that a lot of the French ’empire’ in Africa was the Saharan desert, ie sand, and the remainder none too resource rich. It was the British portion of Africa which had the bulk of the valuable minerals and fresh water wealth.

    Not dissimilarly, in the post WWII division of Europe, the US/UK and their satellite France, self allotted for themselves the populated, developed, and wealthy Western Europe, as their sphere of influence, while the Soviet allotment in Eastern Europe was largely the undeveloped and far less wealthy rural ‘sticks’.

    People generally don’t quite realize just how powerful the US/UK has been the past hundred plus years, and even is now.

    And, as they say, the devil is in the details, and appearances can be deceiving.]

    • Replies: @LatW
    @S1

    The risk that Trump carries is too high (he probably would not fulfill his worst threats but why gamble your children's security on that?). This is why Macron et al have decided to step up. Also, France is a nuclear country that so far has followed the rules of deterrence, while Putin has been making nuclear threats for years now. One has to have self-respect to not give in to nuclear blackmail (otherwise you lose everything).


    It’s all about the creation of a global super-state, or ’empire’ as they sometimes call it, which by and large in theory precludes autarky, and ‘peoplehood’, which is anathema to those promoting a world state
     
    Well, this "global state" is something that's rather vague, while the Russian ultimatum and the Russian missiles are very concrete. The Russian cyber attack on the French hospitals is concrete.

    I agree that the global banking system is problematic in some very important aspects. However, I actually believe (hope) that this global commotion could actually remove some of the power from the so called "globalists". The global system so far relied on peace being self-evident and on some level of complacency. Some militancy and self-assertiveness could increase some types of nationalism (which may drive some of the power away from globalists). Ofc, this is speculative on my part.

    Why, isn't this what the Americans wanted? Americans urged the Euros for years to pick up the slack.

    Btw, I do not judge the French about what is happening in Africa, there is a lot of this post-colonial sentiment going on. The French do not want to impose if the local populations want to side with Russia (although that whole process is quite dirty there, if one is involving the Wagner company, the French Legion, while rough, is definitely a much cleaner institution).

    The French have their own defense doctrine, I think there are elements there that are quite independent of Anglos. Besides, this is more of an EU issue, this is the point from which Macron's position derives. Putin's ultimatum made the demand to meddle in the eternal affairs of the EU which is not acceptable to anyone. With every lost Ukrainian village, Putin gets closer to repeating the ultimatum. It looks like it won't be accepted.

    Replies: @S1

  333. @LatW
    @songbird

    The male polar bears attack their cubs, too. Their own cubs, I think. To avoid future competition? Total bummer. :(

    Replies: @songbird

    A lot of belugas have polar bear scars.

    This guy claims if you squeeze the flipper of a gray seal, they will squeeze your hand back. But as cute as they look, they also are known to eat gray seal infants.

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    It is crazy how long some of the carnivores in these places will eat a big dead whale for. How desperate are they?

  334. @S1
    @LatW


    So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group… geez, where is their self-respect – maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron’s recent rhetoric).
     
    I think Macron tells the French public whatever he thinks will sell them on his projects, not that he necessarily believes his own rhetoric.

    As for himself, he has his orders, and those orders are to prepare not 'just' France, but much of the rest of Europe as well, for war with Russia. It's all about the creation of a global super-state, or 'empire' as they sometimes call it, which by and large in theory precludes autarky, and 'peoplehood', which is anathema to those promoting a world state, and this is so even if that 'peoplehood' may well largely consist of empty symbolism. This new world war they have in the works is intended to wipe out the remnants of peoplehood and autarky..at least for most.

    [France after the final defeat of Napoleon in 1815 was reduced to being a satellite empire of the far more powerful British Empire. I know, I too used to think the latter 19th century French were the loyal opposition to the British, with Africa split roughly evenly between them. Then it sank home that a lot of the French 'empire' in Africa was the Saharan desert, ie sand, and the remainder none too resource rich. It was the British portion of Africa which had the bulk of the valuable minerals and fresh water wealth.

    Not dissimilarly, in the post WWII division of Europe, the US/UK and their satellite France, self allotted for themselves the populated, developed, and wealthy Western Europe, as their sphere of influence, while the Soviet allotment in Eastern Europe was largely the undeveloped and far less wealthy rural 'sticks'.

    People generally don't quite realize just how powerful the US/UK has been the past hundred plus years, and even is now.

    And, as they say, the devil is in the details, and appearances can be deceiving.]

    Replies: @LatW

    The risk that Trump carries is too high (he probably would not fulfill his worst threats but why gamble your children’s security on that?). This is why Macron et al have decided to step up. Also, France is a nuclear country that so far has followed the rules of deterrence, while Putin has been making nuclear threats for years now. One has to have self-respect to not give in to nuclear blackmail (otherwise you lose everything).

    It’s all about the creation of a global super-state, or ’empire’ as they sometimes call it, which by and large in theory precludes autarky, and ‘peoplehood’, which is anathema to those promoting a world state

    Well, this “global state” is something that’s rather vague, while the Russian ultimatum and the Russian missiles are very concrete. The Russian cyber attack on the French hospitals is concrete.

    I agree that the global banking system is problematic in some very important aspects. However, I actually believe (hope) that this global commotion could actually remove some of the power from the so called “globalists”. The global system so far relied on peace being self-evident and on some level of complacency. Some militancy and self-assertiveness could increase some types of nationalism (which may drive some of the power away from globalists). Ofc, this is speculative on my part.

    Why, isn’t this what the Americans wanted? Americans urged the Euros for years to pick up the slack.

    Btw, I do not judge the French about what is happening in Africa, there is a lot of this post-colonial sentiment going on. The French do not want to impose if the local populations want to side with Russia (although that whole process is quite dirty there, if one is involving the Wagner company, the French Legion, while rough, is definitely a much cleaner institution).

    The French have their own defense doctrine, I think there are elements there that are quite independent of Anglos. Besides, this is more of an EU issue, this is the point from which Macron’s position derives. Putin’s ultimatum made the demand to meddle in the eternal affairs of the EU which is not acceptable to anyone. With every lost Ukrainian village, Putin gets closer to repeating the ultimatum. It looks like it won’t be accepted.

    • Replies: @S1
    @LatW


    Well, this “global state” is something that’s rather vague...
     
    The long standing plans to create a global super-state may seem 'vague', probably as intended, but I can assure you, they are quite real and concrete.

    As described in the effectively blacklisted 1853 book, The New Rome, which is excerpted and linked below, the establishment of the continental super-state of the United States of [North] America in 1776 was merely the first cog. The other continents of the world, including Europe, are being pushed by the US/UK to follow the US led example. In time, should they succeed, these newly formed continental super-states are to join together to form a global super-state, ie the 'United States of the World'.

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/59/mode/1up

    'Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.'


    ...while the Russian ultimatum and the Russian missiles are very concrete. The Russian cyber attack on the French hospitals is concrete.

     

    The US/UK have successfully goaded the Russians and Ukrainians into fighting a brutal war with the apparent intent that they destroy each other. For the same reason of near universal nation destruction they wish that the Baltics and the remainder of Europe join in this war.

    It's a trap.

    As an alternative, people have their refusal, easier said than done to be sure. [While ideally peoples and nations wouldn't fight at all, and they'd 'bury the hachet', sometimes the wounds run too deep for that. If you must fight, then at least fight on your own terms, and not terms set by others who do not have your best interests at heart.]

    Simplistically, there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war. Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity. [Well, a type of 'peace' one might suppose, ie the peace of the grave. But wouldn't a life affirming peace be better?]

    [Bear in mind, I work on the principle that the US/UK already largely conquered the Earth, at the latest by about 1900 when the special relationship was formed between them. Though now hurting, these two powers still wield tremendous power. No question, there might be an intent by some that the US/UK is ultimately destroyed as well in WWIII.]

    From the same 1853 New Rome book as excerpted above. [With the by and large failure of the 1848 revolutions, was a decision then made that future 'world wars' centered in Europe would be necessary to bring about the desired revolutionary world state?]


    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/67/mode/1up

    'Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people's land..'


    'Wars are the results of mistaken ideas of interest and pride, possible only so long as the individual identifies his personal interests, not with those of humanity at large, but with those of a certain portion of humanity, with whom he speaks the same language, and whom he terms a nation.'

    'Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people's land; a nation may be defined to be an organization for making war on other nations, killing their subjects and pillaging their property, or of robbing them of their substance by the peaceful means of commercial and industrial competition. Wars require armies; recurring wars, standing armies ; and armies, generals ; generalissimos are monarchs ; and thus the fictions of nationality are the causes of all the woes under which Europe is struggling. In 1848 the people rebelled against the excrescences of the principle ; but the rebellion was quelled by the yet unexpended force of the principle itself.'

    'Nationality, which enlisted the French republic against the Italian, caused the fall of both; nationality, which set the Italian upon the German, the German upon the Magyar, the Magyar against the Sclavonian, the Sclavonian against the German, and the German against the Dane, overthrew the republic in Italy, Germany, Hungary, Sclavonia, and Denmark, and reseated itself upon the ruins.'

    'Peoples without intercourse, a censorship without a literature, taxation without industry, custom-houses without commerce, and standing armies with none to fight against, but those they are paid to protect, and governments without law, — such are the brilliant triumphs which nationality has achieved. Europe is a kitchen of hellish cauldrons, none of which are to be disturbed in their task of annihilating all that lives within them; and the spirit of humanity sits like a prowling cat to wratch the work of destruction, but forbidden, on pain of burning its paws, to meddle or interfere.'

     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

  335. Joe Rogan claims the feet of Guaraní Indians (in the jungle) look like hands.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/lq5db6_ZRI4?si=75TTxJG8IcD_Dw6E

    (I did not see the show.)

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Sometimes Joe Rogan does his show while in an altered state of consciousness. There is one with Alex Jones where they are both drinking huge whiskey helpings. Like an 8 oz drinking glass filled halfway with straight bourbon. The very best example though is one of the Graham Hancock shows where in the beginning Hancock says he had to quit smoking weed because it got to the point where he was smoking weed from the time he got up in the morning until he went to bed late at night.

    An hour and a half later they are smoking weed. I need to figure out how to work that one into my screenplay What The Fuck?

    Replies: @LatW

    , @LatW
    @songbird

    The natural way for the toes is to be a bit more spread, maybe not as much as with this tribe, but the paleo people talk a lot about this and this is why they use Vibrams.

    Btw, I once saw a video of an Amazonian person in, what appeared like a complete trance, moving like an animal. And another one where a guy somewhere in Mexico performed some kind of a deer ritual, moving like a deer with interesting headgear.

    Replies: @songbird

  336. I was a big fan of the deceased manga artist Akira Toriyama. In part, because the anime adaption of his work did the impossible and mainstreamed racist caricatures on American TV.

  337. @songbird
    Joe Rogan claims the feet of Guaraní Indians (in the jungle) look like hands.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/lq5db6_ZRI4?si=75TTxJG8IcD_Dw6E

    (I did not see the show.)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    Sometimes Joe Rogan does his show while in an altered state of consciousness. There is one with Alex Jones where they are both drinking huge whiskey helpings. Like an 8 oz drinking glass filled halfway with straight bourbon. The very best example though is one of the Graham Hancock shows where in the beginning Hancock says he had to quit smoking weed because it got to the point where he was smoking weed from the time he got up in the morning until he went to bed late at night.

    An hour and a half later they are smoking weed. I need to figure out how to work that one into my screenplay What The Fuck?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Alex can use a glass of whiskey, he's too intense (just not too much of it.. although he does look like a type who can handle whiskey).

    Btw, have you seen these recent ads where they offer acid therapy (for companies such as Mindbloom)? Seems like there have been more of these out there recently. That and things such as Thesis (a mind enhancing supplement).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  338. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    Correct. The point is that this is nothing like Russia or the USSR beig invaded by a massive French or Nazi Army.

    This is like the French providing massive supplies to the Poles when the Poles and Soviet Russians were at war in 1920. Except the Poles got everything, while Ukraine is being denied certain weapons. If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.

    Unless China would have massively increased its own aid to Russia in response to such Western moves. China’s total population and Nature Index production are both comparable to those of the West.

    Also, as a side note, even if Ukraine would have reconquered the Crimean Corridor, I don’t think that it would have actually been willing to make peace in 2022 or 2023 (or likely even 2024) without a return of both Crimea and the Donbass. At least based on Ukrainian opinion polling. If Russia would have accepted Ukrainian NATO membership as a part of a grand bargain, though, then maybe Ukrainians would have been more willing to compromise on this. Maybe. Far from guaranteed.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.

    Unless China would have massively increased its own aid to Russia in response to such Western moves
     

    Very doubtful that they would have made such a bold move so quickly.

    Also, as a side note, even if Ukraine would have reconquered the Crimean Corridor, I don’t think that it would have actually been willing to make peace in 2022 or 2023 (or likely even 2024) without a return of both Crimea and the Donbass.
     
    With massive assistance sufficient to quickly retake the Crimea corridor, Ukraine would have likely also retaken Crimea. I doubt it would have been able to take Donbas.

    This would have probably forced Russia to make reasonable demands in negotiations that Ukrainians could accept (i.e., referenda to determine Crimea and Donbas status, NATO and/or EU for the rest of Ukraine). Russia would have had more of an incentive to end the invasion.

    Western allies were too timid to provide what was necessary for a quick end to the war, so now there is a much longer and messier war with potentially more dangerous consequences for everyone.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  339. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. XYZ

    If you suck one dick you are a faggot.

    Replies: @sudden death, @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

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    I never sucked any dick or stuck my dick in anyone’s mouth or ass. So, not gay lol. I’m not interested in ever having any gay sex due to the huge STD risk involved.

  340. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    I don’t find the overwhelming majority of males attractive
     
    wouldn't most women say this? And wouldn't many men say the same of women?

    25+% European or the immediate family member of one?
     
    Several estimates peg the average Euro percentage of American blacks at somewhere between 20-25%. One study suggests they are 10% British.

    The US’s historical experience with African-Americans (other than their Talented Tenth
     
    The talented tenth were used as political props. From a political standpoint, it probably would have been better if they hadn't existed. That way, elite institutions wouldn't have been able to insulate themselves by using them.

    But the US’s experience with Latin Americans
     
    the US seems to have its border completely destroyed as a concept, due to Latin Americans. It has open borders now, with Mexico and thus the world. Inflation is really starting to take off, and I see no prospect of it getting back under control. It is not really part of the rhetoric anymore - I mean any realism about dealing with it.

    Given the political status of Europeans under the current regime. Demographic projections seem to paint a very hard future. Latins have really helped promote antiracism quite a lot.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    wouldn’t most women say this? And wouldn’t many men say the same of women?

    Maybe but there are still many, many more women whom I find attractive relative to men. And the men whom I do find attractive often look like women at least somewhat.

    I find male puberty a huge turnoff (I don’t like it on my own body either) and think that men are most attractive when they minimize the effect of male puberty on their bodies (laser hair removal en masse, et cetera), other than of course the tall height.

    Several estimates peg the average Euro percentage of American blacks at somewhere between 20-25%. One study suggests they are 10% British.

    Yes, and African-Americans certainly belong here both because of this and also because of everything that they and their ancestors have endured in the past. But unfortunately a sizable percentage of them are not model citizens, to put it mildly. There are many of them who are, even in the working-class, but there are a lot of bad apples among them, unfortunately, especially in the ghetto underclass.

    I think that it’s entirely legitimate for a white ethnostate Israeli-style immigration policy to also admit blacks who are 25+% European or the immediate family members of someone who is. Thankfully, most Sub-Saharan African blacks do not qualify for this to my knowledge. Likely the overwhelming majority of them don’t qualify for this.

    The talented tenth were used as political props. From a political standpoint, it probably would have been better if they hadn’t existed. That way, elite institutions wouldn’t have been able to insulate themselves by using them.

    Well, I think that there is also a desire by US elites (including white ones) to have black friends, and without the Talented Tenth or elite black immigrants, this would likely be considerably harder for them to do.

    My own view on affirmative action is that the higher the stakes (neurosurgery, et cetera), the less justification there is for using it. For lower-stakes jobs, I would be more supportive, but not simply based on race (which I’m wary about but I could see some justification for it to compensate blacks for racial profiling by police, which I do believe is justified in order to save lives–with me viewing Defund the Police as a stupid and crazy movement that would be especially bad for law-abiding blacks themselves), but also based on income, disability (ADHD, autism, et cetera), et cetera.

    the US seems to have its border completely destroyed as a concept, due to Latin Americans. It has open borders now, with Mexico and thus the world. Inflation is really starting to take off, and I see no prospect of it getting back under control. It is not really part of the rhetoric anymore – I mean any realism about dealing with it.

    Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have extremely massive immigration and yet don’t have a consistently chronic inflation problem, do they? For that matter, did the mass immigration of Jews from the Arab world post-Israeli independence actually destroy Israel’s economy?

    I do agree that we need to strongly fight inflation. I’m just unsure that immigrants are to blame here. How specifically are they to blame here?

    Given the political status of Europeans under the current regime. Demographic projections seem to paint a very hard future. Latins have really helped promote antiracism quite a lot.

    That’s because it’s no longer prestigious to identify as white. Frankly, this needs to change. Whiteness needs to be something that people are once again proud of, like in Latin America, I suppose.

    Some Latino are shifting towards Trump, whom I dislike but a fact which you might nevertheless enjoy:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/14/us/politics/trump-biden-campaign-latino-voters.html

    I suspect that Trump’s gains among Latino and black men are due to the GOP becoming more of a prole party, at least in terms of its style, if not necessarily its substance.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Yes, and African-Americans certainly belong here both because of this and also because of everything that they and their ancestors have endured in the past.
     
    I don't think Dominicans belong here and they are far more European on average and probably somewhat less badly behaved.

    Amusingly, this Euro blood quantum argument is an old one by progressives (HG Wells invoked it, I believe contrasting the alienness of the non-English European immigrant, to the English-descended black, almost while denouncing some anarchist being placed in a mostly black prison.) but I think not at all a very good one, since we have seen the result of radical universalism and it is not good. (BTW, I have seen very few blacks invoke shared blood - maybe, loyalty should be extended to those but not the others?)

    If anything, I think the DNA argument would go the other way: with the greater portion being more deterministic, and blacks being resettled in blacker areas. With mulattoes perhaps being given special consideration and given their own area.

    The ancestors of blacks in America experienced slavery only for a very short time. A large portion probably came after the Atlantic slave trade was outlawed.

    The historical argument would be to place them within certain counties in the South, with strong segregation and vigilante justice.

    But I think you could could say we already ran that experiment and inevitably it led to desegregation and ultimately to the complete villainization of Europeans.

    So personally I would like to try something different.

    I think the moral argument would be not based on some hard to quantify past suffering (American slaves actually were better fed that most Africans and this is reflected in bones). But rather on minimizing future suffering.

    Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have extremely massive immigration and yet don’t have a consistently chronic inflation problem, do they?
     
    Have you tried to buy a house in Toronto or Auckland lately? Maybe, the price of eggs hasn't risen too much, but try buying a house to live in.

    Whiteness needs to be something that people are once again proud of, like in Latin America, I suppose.
     
    Brazil actually has a surprisingly similar culture to the US, IMO. (In a negative way) Venezuela was recently destroyed by demographics. (Look at pics of Chavez). The Southern cone appears to have runaway immigration. I'm not sure Euro identity is strong there as a political force anymore.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  341. @songbird
    Joe Rogan claims the feet of Guaraní Indians (in the jungle) look like hands.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/lq5db6_ZRI4?si=75TTxJG8IcD_Dw6E

    (I did not see the show.)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    The natural way for the toes is to be a bit more spread, maybe not as much as with this tribe, but the paleo people talk a lot about this and this is why they use Vibrams.

    Btw, I once saw a video of an Amazonian person in, what appeared like a complete trance, moving like an animal. And another one where a guy somewhere in Mexico performed some kind of a deer ritual, moving like a deer with interesting headgear.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    A number of years ago, I remember seeing a comment on an HBD blog about the footprints at White Sands, which were then attributed to an earlier wave than Amerinds (probably not the case.). And the person said something like"they were too dumb to have shoes." Which I found really laughable, as it was quite common for people to be shoeless into modern times. And I wouldn't necessarily want to walk through mud wearing shoes anyway.

    Replies: @LatW

  342. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Sometimes Joe Rogan does his show while in an altered state of consciousness. There is one with Alex Jones where they are both drinking huge whiskey helpings. Like an 8 oz drinking glass filled halfway with straight bourbon. The very best example though is one of the Graham Hancock shows where in the beginning Hancock says he had to quit smoking weed because it got to the point where he was smoking weed from the time he got up in the morning until he went to bed late at night.

    An hour and a half later they are smoking weed. I need to figure out how to work that one into my screenplay What The Fuck?

    Replies: @LatW

    Alex can use a glass of whiskey, he’s too intense (just not too much of it.. although he does look like a type who can handle whiskey).

    Btw, have you seen these recent ads where they offer acid therapy (for companies such as Mindbloom)? Seems like there have been more of these out there recently. That and things such as Thesis (a mind enhancing supplement).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    No.

    Is that an ad that was served to you by google ad sense based on how they pigeon hole your special brand of human? Or does the drug company think there is a market out there for 10's of millions of LSD patients? If the former you might want to ask your doctor if LSD is right for you.

    The last time I did it I was in my early 20's. I cannot imagine being over 30 and doing that or mushrooms or peyote or ayahuasca or any of the exotic molecules. Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack

  343. @songbird
    @LatW


    What about Oscar Wilde? Oh, you probably hate him… too decadent.
     
    Naturally.

    Haven't read much Wilde, but I would put him into the anthropological category. Like reading, the Picture of Dorian Gray, its obvious that one character is vicariously expressing his hatred of women. For me, it's enough of a vibe, to realize that one wouldn't want various gays like Varadkar, Macron, and Trudeau in power. (I.e. if they hate women, how can they feel about the family or children? We just had the first guy trying to deconstruct it totally in Ireland)

    My favorite ethnic Irish writer must be AC Doyle. He was heavily influenced by Poe. Doyle was probably a little too woke for comfort. He put Holmes in drag disguise at least once, and he did a story about miscegenation. Then there is the one where he made Gypsies a red herring. OTOH, he did once write a story with a short Andamanese (they are short, though technically above Pygmy threshold.)

    But he was superior to any of his imitators. And I think there was a bit of physiognomy in it, though it would have been better, if he inserted more.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    My favorite ethnic Irish writer must be AC Doyle. He was heavily influenced by Poe.

    Just a few days ago, I happened to watch this interesting documentary about the occult leanings and influences that supposedly made a a deep impression on AC Doyle’s writing style evident throughout his Sherlock Holmes detective tales. I don’t know just how much of this is very true, not really knowing much about his background. I thought that you might enjoy watching it. I watched it on Prime, but notice that it has been since removed (a message from the Almighty?). Sherlock Holmes: The Occult World of Arthur Conan Doyle. It’s quite possible that you can watch it in your area.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Thanks, Doyle did write a few "scary" (for that time) short stories without Holmes that I imagine did also have a Poe influence. I remember quite enjoying the one featuring catacombs, in which a K-selected man gets revenge on an r-selected one.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  344. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Alex can use a glass of whiskey, he's too intense (just not too much of it.. although he does look like a type who can handle whiskey).

    Btw, have you seen these recent ads where they offer acid therapy (for companies such as Mindbloom)? Seems like there have been more of these out there recently. That and things such as Thesis (a mind enhancing supplement).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    No.

    Is that an ad that was served to you by google ad sense based on how they pigeon hole your special brand of human? Or does the drug company think there is a market out there for 10’s of millions of LSD patients? If the former you might want to ask your doctor if LSD is right for you.

    The last time I did it I was in my early 20’s. I cannot imagine being over 30 and doing that or mushrooms or peyote or ayahuasca or any of the exotic molecules. Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Is that an ad that was served to you by google ad sense based on how they pigeon hole your special brand of human?
     
    I'm sure it's connected to something I may have browsed or thought, but it's quite recent (just this past year). So I was wondering if there has been some recent shift towards these therapies. Kind of as the next step after legalizing weed ("medical cannabis").

    The last time I did it I was in my early 20’s. I cannot imagine being over 30 and doing that
     
    Me too, it'd be somewhat scary. That's why it was interesting to see these firms offer it, it'd be interesting to see what they use and what precautions they have. There is even retreat for this. Well, I'm sure there are free ones too..

    Btw, YouTube does read one's brainwaves (thoughts), which is rather disturbing, it's weird that nobody's bringing it up (it's a big deal).

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    An hour and a half later they are smoking weed. I need to figure out how to work that one into my screenplay What The Fuck?
     
    It shouldn't really be that difficult, if that's what you want to do. In my neck of the woods, liquor stores including drive throughs abound, and recreational cannabis shops have most likely surpassed the "medical dispensaries" long ago. I get bombarded by electronic street signs on the way to work extolling the benefits of certain strains of weed, including the weekly specials. I'll admit that I occasionally get tempted to stop in and check out the deals, but then my saner side kicks in, "really, not again?". :-)

    https://www.azcentral.com/gcdn/presto/2021/07/09/PPHX/b11859ad-b445-4279-bfbd-3cff7ab22e2d-cent02-7gl30t6cvt0ogwtc837_original.jpg?width=660&height=421&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp

    A new restaurant has opened up specializing in food infused with weed. I'm holding out for intravenous devices that should deliver a more potent high than even vaping...

  345. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    No.

    Is that an ad that was served to you by google ad sense based on how they pigeon hole your special brand of human? Or does the drug company think there is a market out there for 10's of millions of LSD patients? If the former you might want to ask your doctor if LSD is right for you.

    The last time I did it I was in my early 20's. I cannot imagine being over 30 and doing that or mushrooms or peyote or ayahuasca or any of the exotic molecules. Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    Is that an ad that was served to you by google ad sense based on how they pigeon hole your special brand of human?

    I’m sure it’s connected to something I may have browsed or thought, but it’s quite recent (just this past year). So I was wondering if there has been some recent shift towards these therapies. Kind of as the next step after legalizing weed (“medical cannabis”).

    The last time I did it I was in my early 20’s. I cannot imagine being over 30 and doing that

    Me too, it’d be somewhat scary. That’s why it was interesting to see these firms offer it, it’d be interesting to see what they use and what precautions they have. There is even retreat for this. Well, I’m sure there are free ones too..

    Btw, YouTube does read one’s brainwaves (thoughts), which is rather disturbing, it’s weird that nobody’s bringing it up (it’s a big deal).

  346. @Mikhail
    Dersh's weak point further exposed:

    https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/593977-alan-dershowitz-emeritus-professor-harvard-law/

    Replies: @Sean

    His point that saying no one is above the law is true only when no one is below the law in question either. Otherwise there is selective prosecution. Trump is being brought to book for things other business men do every day without even an indictment.. Furthermore a prosecutor ran for that office on a platform of promising to bring a case against Trump, which is all wrong.

  347. Candace Owens Destroys Chris Cuomo:

  348. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    No.

    Is that an ad that was served to you by google ad sense based on how they pigeon hole your special brand of human? Or does the drug company think there is a market out there for 10's of millions of LSD patients? If the former you might want to ask your doctor if LSD is right for you.

    The last time I did it I was in my early 20's. I cannot imagine being over 30 and doing that or mushrooms or peyote or ayahuasca or any of the exotic molecules. Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    An hour and a half later they are smoking weed. I need to figure out how to work that one into my screenplay What The Fuck?

    It shouldn’t really be that difficult, if that’s what you want to do. In my neck of the woods, liquor stores including drive throughs abound, and recreational cannabis shops have most likely surpassed the “medical dispensaries” long ago. I get bombarded by electronic street signs on the way to work extolling the benefits of certain strains of weed, including the weekly specials. I’ll admit that I occasionally get tempted to stop in and check out the deals, but then my saner side kicks in, “really, not again?”. 🙂

    A new restaurant has opened up specializing in food infused with weed. I’m holding out for intravenous devices that should deliver a more potent high than even vaping…

  349. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    My favorite ethnic Irish writer must be AC Doyle. He was heavily influenced by Poe.
     
    Just a few days ago, I happened to watch this interesting documentary about the occult leanings and influences that supposedly made a a deep impression on AC Doyle's writing style evident throughout his Sherlock Holmes detective tales. I don't know just how much of this is very true, not really knowing much about his background. I thought that you might enjoy watching it. I watched it on Prime, but notice that it has been since removed (a message from the Almighty?). Sherlock Holmes: The Occult World of Arthur Conan Doyle. It's quite possible that you can watch it in your area.

    Replies: @songbird

    Thanks, Doyle did write a few “scary” (for that time) short stories without Holmes that I imagine did also have a Poe influence. I remember quite enjoying the one featuring catacombs, in which

    [MORE]
    a K-selected man gets revenge on an r-selected one.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    a K-selected man gets revenge on an r-selected one.
     
    Did he really? I can't quite envision an r-selected man?

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

  350. @LatW
    @songbird

    The natural way for the toes is to be a bit more spread, maybe not as much as with this tribe, but the paleo people talk a lot about this and this is why they use Vibrams.

    Btw, I once saw a video of an Amazonian person in, what appeared like a complete trance, moving like an animal. And another one where a guy somewhere in Mexico performed some kind of a deer ritual, moving like a deer with interesting headgear.

    Replies: @songbird

    A number of years ago, I remember seeing a comment on an HBD blog about the footprints at White Sands, which were then attributed to an earlier wave than Amerinds (probably not the case.). And the person said something like”they were too dumb to have shoes.” Which I found really laughable, as it was quite common for people to be shoeless into modern times. And I wouldn’t necessarily want to walk through mud wearing shoes anyway.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    And I wouldn’t necessarily want to walk through mud wearing shoes anyway.
     
    No, there are muddy places on the ocean where if you wear boots or shoes, the sand is so delicate that you'll just get stuck, and feel almost as if you've been cemented in. The only thing about walking barefoot that could be a worry is getting injured, but the paleo people had rougher soles.

    Replies: @songbird

  351. “Russia delenda est” says the Latvian president.

    Active personnel in the Latvian armed forces: 17k.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Matra

    At least he didn't say the Russians are Amalek and the Russian people must all be killed to the last woman and child. : )

    , @Mikel
    @Matra

    Thanks for that tweet. Very informative, especially the comments to the tweet by that Edgards Latvian guy. One of them has a 29 minute interview with Macron dubbed in English where he explains his reasons for sending French troops to Ukraine at some point.

    I think this was the third time he defended the idea. Anyone thinking that he is bluffing and that there aren't winds of war with Russia blowing in Europe should listen to that interview. He is clearly trying to convince the French public opinion about the necessity of going to war in a foreign country. Given the rather bovine attitude of the interviewers, who only mention the nukes once in passing, he may actually be able to succeed.

    It may be a generational thing. The invasion of Czechoslovakia by the Soviets was not less outrageous. At least the Czechs hadn't killed thousands of Russophone civilians. And their Maidanesque aspirations in 1968 of joining the West proved to be a reasonable idea once the Iron Curtain fell, they were able to do it remarkably well. They even gave us all a lesson of civility with the Velvet Revolution. But people in those times were different. Everyone was capable of making the immediate mental association between sending Western troops to help the Czechs and provoking a nuclear war that would be much more devastating than what the Soviets were doing in that country. So the Czechs were sadly crushed. Now people have lost these mental abilities to gauge actions and consequences, or assess the difference between greater and lesser evils. It must be connected to the loss of the ability to acknowledge that the human species only has two genders or that tens of millions of migrants from the 3rd World are not going to recreate the societies they come from.

    The case of the Balts is different. I would like to think that they know something about the Russians that I don't, and they don't believe the Russians would ever use their nukes, which would be great if true. But I suspect it's something much more primitive than that.

    , @LatW
    @Matra

    What's wrong with both sides having red lines, not just RusFed?

    One of the European red lines could be that RusFed doesn't send ridiculous ultimata (trying to meddle with our internal affairs).

  352. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French
     
    I did the math, 255k out of 643k were French, it was 39% - I was closer...:)

    Only around 30k made it back, it was a total wipe-out. I am glad that the Poles were enthusiastic, it made dying in Russia for the glory of France more palatable. Maybe they can do it again.

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany
     
    Haha, good one...When? In May 1945? There were 177 French troops (177!) in the Normandy invasion. A few thousand others here and there, but the bulk of Free French only materialized when the war was over - after it was won by Russia in the east. The Frenchies were either cowards or fought for the Nazis.

    On the Nazi side was not only the French SS Division and the Frenchies from Alsace-Lorraine, but a few hundred thousand Vichy soldiers, gendarmes, police, etc...The "Resistance" was full of non-French partisans: Spaniards, Jews, foreigners and communists. You are lying again, making up myths.

    You keep on going back to Poland in 1920, just very stupid. I agree that none of the analogies are correct - this is a new situation. But the Western Euros impulse to attack Russia seems eternal. So does the Polish-Galician desire to be the cannon fodder to be praised by their Westie masters. This one is almost comical - the Euros are so non-committal that one wonders why did they start the whole "Nato-in-Ukraine" madness. The ending will be the same as always, I don't have to spell it out for you.

    Replies: @AP

    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French

    I did the math, 255k out of 643k were French, it was 39% – I was closer…:)

    You didn’t read further, not all of those crossed the border. And the 255k didn’t include French from Belgium which was part of France under Napoleon.

    From the article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_of_the_French_invasion_of_Russia

    “After a whole day of preparation by Morand and Eblé, the invasion commenced on Midsummer, 24 June 1812 with Napoleon’s army crossing the river. Half of them were foreigners”

    “Georges Lefebvre suggested that Napoleon crossed the Neman with over 600,000 soldiers, only half of whom were from France.”

    “Riehn provides the following figures: 685,000 men marched into Russia in 1812, of whom around 355,000 were French; 31,000 soldiers marched out again in some sort of military formation, with perhaps another 35,000 stragglers, for a total of less than 70,000 known survivors.”

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany

    Haha, good one…When? In May 1945?

    You lie as always.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Free-French

    More than 100,000 Free French troops fought in the Anglo-American campaign in Italy in 1943, and, by the time of the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944, the Free French forces had swelled to more than 300,000 regular troops. They were almost wholly American-equipped and supplied. In August 1944 the Free French 1st Army, under General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny, took part in the Allies’ invasion of southern France, driving thence northeastward into Alsace before joining in the Western Allies’ final thrust into Germany.

    On the Nazi side was not only the French SS Division and the Frenchies from Alsace-Lorraine, but a few hundred thousand Vichy soldiers, gendarmes, police,

    These weren’t fighting the Soviets and sat in the unoccupied parts of France and colonies.

    So about 15,000 French joined the Germans in fighting against the Soviets (plus 130,000 ethnic Germans from Alsace-Lorraine) – versus about 300,000 French fighting against the Germans. Far more French fought against the Germans than fought against the Soviets.

    You keep on going back to Poland in 1920,

    Because it is the closest analogue to the current situation, though it is of course not a perfect match.

    The ending will be the same as always

    Soviet Russia was driven out of Poland in 1920-1921.

    Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Same as always?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.
     
    Are you suggesting they do it again? How long would we be around to enjoy the show?

    The main result of the Crimean War was the destruction of the Habsburg Empire - it lost its main ally in Russia and the Balkans became a battleground leading to WW1. There is an analogy with Germany today - also trying to stay neutral - likely the biggest loser of the Nato-Russia war.

    But all similarities are far fetched. The West has ignored the obvious Russian regional dominance. Kiev wouldn't last a month without the Nato support. But only remote and indirect - it can't change the reality. Time is on Russia's side. Any deal now will be worse for Ukraine than what they had in the past.

    What is important about the Crimean War is the France-Anglo deep support for Turkey who occupied huge Orthodox Christian lands and suppressed the Europenas living there. But the Westies sided with the Turks - even went to war to protect their Euro empire. Russia learned the lesson - they are also explicitly using non-Euros as allies against the West. The 'conservative' Euros can complain, but they have never managed to keep their own liberal elites from using any group against Russia. Now Russia is doing it to them and it further weakens Europe. La Pen and Georgina stepped in it again.

    The "Free French" numbers you invented are propaganda nonsense - mostly colonials drafted by Allies at the end of the war. When it mattered the Frenchies fought as volunteers with the Nazis in 1941-43. After Germany was defeated by Russia in 1942-3 many countries switched sides. It doesn't count.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Coconuts
    @AP


    So about 15,000 French joined the Germans in fighting against the Soviets...
     
    Even this figure may be too high, it may be closer to 10,000 between the French Volunteer Legion and the later SS units.

    The personal in the French Volunteer Legion were not all French, it contained White Russian exiles, a portion of the recruits came from the Foreign Legion and there were around 130 Arabs from North Africa. The weirdest is the 12 black guys from the Antilles, one of these, whose name was Norbert tried to try to join the SS but was refused on racial grounds. It seems a Jewish guy from the Legion was trying to join the SS at the same time, so there must have been some Jews in it as well.

    Replies: @AP

  353. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    wouldn’t most women say this? And wouldn’t many men say the same of women?

     

    Maybe but there are still many, many more women whom I find attractive relative to men. And the men whom I do find attractive often look like women at least somewhat.

    I find male puberty a huge turnoff (I don't like it on my own body either) and think that men are most attractive when they minimize the effect of male puberty on their bodies (laser hair removal en masse, et cetera), other than of course the tall height.


    Several estimates peg the average Euro percentage of American blacks at somewhere between 20-25%. One study suggests they are 10% British.

     

    Yes, and African-Americans certainly belong here both because of this and also because of everything that they and their ancestors have endured in the past. But unfortunately a sizable percentage of them are not model citizens, to put it mildly. There are many of them who are, even in the working-class, but there are a lot of bad apples among them, unfortunately, especially in the ghetto underclass.

    I think that it's entirely legitimate for a white ethnostate Israeli-style immigration policy to also admit blacks who are 25+% European or the immediate family members of someone who is. Thankfully, most Sub-Saharan African blacks do not qualify for this to my knowledge. Likely the overwhelming majority of them don't qualify for this.


    The talented tenth were used as political props. From a political standpoint, it probably would have been better if they hadn’t existed. That way, elite institutions wouldn’t have been able to insulate themselves by using them.

     

    Well, I think that there is also a desire by US elites (including white ones) to have black friends, and without the Talented Tenth or elite black immigrants, this would likely be considerably harder for them to do.

    My own view on affirmative action is that the higher the stakes (neurosurgery, et cetera), the less justification there is for using it. For lower-stakes jobs, I would be more supportive, but not simply based on race (which I'm wary about but I could see some justification for it to compensate blacks for racial profiling by police, which I do believe is justified in order to save lives--with me viewing Defund the Police as a stupid and crazy movement that would be especially bad for law-abiding blacks themselves), but also based on income, disability (ADHD, autism, et cetera), et cetera.


    the US seems to have its border completely destroyed as a concept, due to Latin Americans. It has open borders now, with Mexico and thus the world. Inflation is really starting to take off, and I see no prospect of it getting back under control. It is not really part of the rhetoric anymore – I mean any realism about dealing with it.
     
    Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have extremely massive immigration and yet don't have a consistently chronic inflation problem, do they? For that matter, did the mass immigration of Jews from the Arab world post-Israeli independence actually destroy Israel's economy?

    I do agree that we need to strongly fight inflation. I'm just unsure that immigrants are to blame here. How specifically are they to blame here?


    Given the political status of Europeans under the current regime. Demographic projections seem to paint a very hard future. Latins have really helped promote antiracism quite a lot.
     
    That's because it's no longer prestigious to identify as white. Frankly, this needs to change. Whiteness needs to be something that people are once again proud of, like in Latin America, I suppose.

    Some Latino are shifting towards Trump, whom I dislike but a fact which you might nevertheless enjoy:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/14/us/politics/trump-biden-campaign-latino-voters.html

    I suspect that Trump's gains among Latino and black men are due to the GOP becoming more of a prole party, at least in terms of its style, if not necessarily its substance.

    Replies: @songbird

    Yes, and African-Americans certainly belong here both because of this and also because of everything that they and their ancestors have endured in the past.

    I don’t think Dominicans belong here and they are far more European on average and probably somewhat less badly behaved.

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    Amusingly, this Euro blood quantum argument is an old one by progressives (HG Wells invoked it, I believe contrasting the alienness of the non-English European immigrant, to the English-descended black, almost while denouncing some anarchist being placed in a mostly black prison.) but I think not at all a very good one, since we have seen the result of radical universalism and it is not good. (BTW, I have seen very few blacks invoke shared blood – maybe, loyalty should be extended to those but not the others?)

    If anything, I think the DNA argument would go the other way: with the greater portion being more deterministic, and blacks being resettled in blacker areas. With mulattoes perhaps being given special consideration and given their own area.

    The ancestors of blacks in America experienced slavery only for a very short time. A large portion probably came after the Atlantic slave trade was outlawed.

    The historical argument would be to place them within certain counties in the South, with strong segregation and vigilante justice.

    But I think you could could say we already ran that experiment and inevitably it led to desegregation and ultimately to the complete villainization of Europeans.

    So personally I would like to try something different.

    I think the moral argument would be not based on some hard to quantify past suffering (American slaves actually were better fed that most Africans and this is reflected in bones). But rather on minimizing future suffering.

    Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have extremely massive immigration and yet don’t have a consistently chronic inflation problem, do they?

    Have you tried to buy a house in Toronto or Auckland lately? Maybe, the price of eggs hasn’t risen too much, but try buying a house to live in.

    Whiteness needs to be something that people are once again proud of, like in Latin America, I suppose.

    Brazil actually has a surprisingly similar culture to the US, IMO. (In a negative way) Venezuela was recently destroyed by demographics. (Look at pics of Chavez). The Southern cone appears to have runaway immigration. I’m not sure Euro identity is strong there as a political force anymore.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    I don’t think Dominicans belong here and they are far more European on average and probably somewhat less badly behaved.

     

    Are they really worse than Mexicans are?


    Amusingly, this Euro blood quantum argument is an old one by progressives (HG Wells invoked it, I believe contrasting the alienness of the non-English European immigrant, to the English-descended black, almost while denouncing some anarchist being placed in a mostly black prison.) but I think not at all a very good one, since we have seen the result of radical universalism and it is not good. (BTW, I have seen very few blacks invoke shared blood – maybe, loyalty should be extended to those but not the others?)
     
    If you want to apply that logic, go ahead. I won't necessarily oppose it. As in, viewing this from the prism of just how closely connected to whiteness people of partial white descent are actually are in terms of their mentality and self-identification. Of course, people without any white descent should have the opportunity to become honorary whites if they will also identify with white people and/or the West (as in apartheid South Africa in the past, though I loathe the apartheid model in general; South Africa could have used more race realism post-apartheid, though).

    If anything, I think the DNA argument would go the other way: with the greater portion being more deterministic, and blacks being resettled in blacker areas. With mulattoes perhaps being given special consideration and given their own area.
     
    But people don't always associate with the majority of their ancestry. I am 3/4 East Slavic and 1/4 Jewish and yet identify more with my Jewish ancestry due to me spending the first 8.5+ years of my life in Israel and me being born there. (A lot of other Israelis of ex-USSR descent very likely feel similarly about this.) Similarly, due to the one-drop rule, people of color in the US, at least before the start of the Civil Rights Movement, could have occasionally had a majority of white ancestry but were still forced to identify as people of color, unlike in Latin America.

    The ancestors of blacks in America experienced slavery only for a very short time. A large portion probably came after the Atlantic slave trade was outlawed.
     
    But they also had to suffer from a century of Jim Crow afterwards (and racially restrictive covenants plus redlining in the Northern US in the early 20th century).

    The historical argument would be to place them within certain counties in the South, with strong segregation and vigilante justice.

    But I think you could could say we already ran that experiment and inevitably it led to desegregation and ultimately to the complete villainization of Europeans.
     
    The US's policy on crime was relatively decent (perhaps the punishments for some non-violent crimes being too tough, though) before 2012 or so, when BLM really took off. You don't need Jim Crow to have a decent tough-on-crime policy. Michael Bloomberg in New York City did a great job with his stop-and-frisk program. If doing this was necessary to save (more) lives (including minority lives), then I would have personally upheld its constitutionality if I was a judge in spite of its racial profiling.

    So personally I would like to try something different.

    I think the moral argument would be not based on some hard to quantify past suffering (American slaves actually were better fed that most Africans and this is reflected in bones). But rather on minimizing future suffering.
     
    What about Robert Stark's pan-enclavism model here in the US?

    https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism

    Have you tried to buy a house in Toronto or Auckland lately? Maybe, the price of eggs hasn’t risen too much, but try buying a house to live in.
     
    Well, they should build much more housing to keep up with the demand for it.

    Brazil actually has a surprisingly similar culture to the US, IMO. (In a negative way) Venezuela was recently destroyed by demographics. (Look at pics of Chavez). The Southern cone appears to have runaway immigration. I’m not sure Euro identity is strong there as a political force anymore.

     

    Venezuela was destroyed more by socialism than by demographics, no? And the US's smart fraction is probably something like ten times larger than Brazil's is. Brazil's top 5% smartest people/students have an average IQ of around 100. Here in the US, it's around 121. Over a standard deviation higher! Absolutely no comparison!

    Replies: @songbird

  354. AP says:
    @Mikel
    @LatW

    No, you misunderstand. It's the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.

    To be clear, Macron was nowhere near the people deciding matters during the expansion of NATO but, as we see everywhere, we live in times of group-think in the West. The elites have converged to a set of beliefs that they cannot deviate from. If anyone tries to, they're Russiagated or Engoroned. In times of more freedom of thought France was the first one to diverge from NATO's policies. I'm almost tempted to say that even the Communist block admitted more diversity of opinions, at least in the periphery, as shown by the cases of Yugoslavia, Romania and Albania.

    Replies: @sudden death, @LatW, @AP

    Sure, you the Basque living in the USA knows more about Russia and Eastern Europe than do Russians and Eastern Europeans themselves.

    Russians viewed the 1990 collapse of the Soviet system as a geopolitical tragedy (certainly, the elite did) which was to be overcome once Russia got back on its feet. And Eastern Europeans have had centuries of experience with Russian expansionism. Both sides understood that Russia when given the chance would want to expand westward, at minimum to reabsorb Belarus and Ukraine (and maybe the Baltics, though they were viewed as fairly small and unimportant so their “independence” could be tolerated) and ideally to keep Poland, Baltics, etc. as a Russia-influenced buffer zone.

    Eastern Euros wanted to join NATO in order to preserve their independence from Russia and keep ironclad their new status as part of the West. Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower. None of these saw NATO as a springboard from which to actually invade Russia, a country capable of destroying everyone with its nukes.

    It’s the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.

    Russian wishes to expand preceded NATO so no “self-fulfilling prophesy.” But outrageous Russian behavior (invading European countries in order to try to by force recreate a Russian or Soviet empire) may be a self-fulfilling prophecy if it provokes NATO troops or NATO missiles/planes into fighting against Russia directly.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    Sure, you the Basque living in the USA knows more about Russia and Eastern Europe than do Russians and Eastern Europeans themselves.
     
    That's a pretty unintelligent remark. Nowhere have I claimed to know more about Eastern Europe than the Eastern Europeans themselves, or anything remotely close to that.

    But regardless of how you feel about it, as a Basque-American citizen I have the right to use my brains to decide if the people who claim to represent me (on both sides of the Atlantic) have done a good job at protecting my interests and those of the people closest to me. I think that they've done a lousy job, both when they sent military expeditions to the Muslim world and when, at the same time, recklessly expanded NATO to the East instead of building a stability framework with the other nuclear superpower.

    The chances of a non-assimilated Ukrainian-American (your own self-description to AK) convincing me that those strategic choices were reasonable are zero, even if you hadn't tried multiple times before. Why bother again?

    Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower.
     
    If that was their only innocent goal, they failed miserably. For 30 years Russia didn't even dare recognize enclaves full of Russians as their own and even asked to be admitted into NATO. So we couldn't resist turning the screws a little more by expanding NATO to Ukraine instead.

    Not to worry though, we can still fix this mess by sending French and Latvian troops to Ukraine...

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Eastern Euros wanted to join NATO in order to preserve their independence from Russia and keep ironclad their new status as part of the West. Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower. None of these saw NATO as a springboard from which to actually invade Russia, a country capable of destroying everyone with its nukes.
     
    Philippe Lemoine argued that Russia feared escalation dominance and the risk of an accidental war with NATO if NATO moved up to Russia's borders in more and more places. The escalation dominance I would presume would work like this: NATO could place missiles (perhaps even nuclear ones) near Russia's borders and then extract concessions from Russia in exchange for removing these missiles. The accidental war risk could be due to a computer malfunction or something that falsely tells Russians or Westerners that a mass missile and/or nuclear strike from the other side against their own side is rapidly occurring and that they need to respond quickly. Something of this sort almost happened back in 1983:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

    Of course, one could question the wisdom of Russian actions in the neighborhood as increasing Western hostility and paranoia towards Russia and thus increasing rather than decreasing the risk of an accidental NATO-Russia war.

    Russian wishes to expand preceded NATO so no “self-fulfilling prophesy.” But outrageous Russian behavior (invading European countries in order to try to by force recreate a Russian or Soviet empire) may be a self-fulfilling prophecy if it provokes NATO troops or NATO missiles/planes into fighting against Russia directly.

     

    Interestingly enough, almost a century ago, Kalergi argued (starting from page 54 here) that Russia is a huge security threat for Europe which Europe can only overcome by uniting:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Pan_Europe/xUdLAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=white

    He argued that Russia is less likely to attack any European country if it will mean a war between Russia and all of Europe in response to such a Russian move.
  355. AP says:
    @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.
     
    Unless China would have massively increased its own aid to Russia in response to such Western moves. China's total population and Nature Index production are both comparable to those of the West.

    Also, as a side note, even if Ukraine would have reconquered the Crimean Corridor, I don't think that it would have actually been willing to make peace in 2022 or 2023 (or likely even 2024) without a return of both Crimea and the Donbass. At least based on Ukrainian opinion polling. If Russia would have accepted Ukrainian NATO membership as a part of a grand bargain, though, then maybe Ukrainians would have been more willing to compromise on this. Maybe. Far from guaranteed.

    Replies: @AP

    If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.

    Unless China would have massively increased its own aid to Russia in response to such Western moves

    Very doubtful that they would have made such a bold move so quickly.

    Also, as a side note, even if Ukraine would have reconquered the Crimean Corridor, I don’t think that it would have actually been willing to make peace in 2022 or 2023 (or likely even 2024) without a return of both Crimea and the Donbass.

    With massive assistance sufficient to quickly retake the Crimea corridor, Ukraine would have likely also retaken Crimea. I doubt it would have been able to take Donbas.

    This would have probably forced Russia to make reasonable demands in negotiations that Ukrainians could accept (i.e., referenda to determine Crimea and Donbas status, NATO and/or EU for the rest of Ukraine). Russia would have had more of an incentive to end the invasion.

    Western allies were too timid to provide what was necessary for a quick end to the war, so now there is a much longer and messier war with potentially more dangerous consequences for everyone.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Very doubtful that they would have made such a bold move so quickly.

     

    They could have tried doing it under the radar.

    With massive assistance sufficient to quickly retake the Crimea corridor, Ukraine would have likely also retaken Crimea. I doubt it would have been able to take Donbas.

    This would have probably forced Russia to make reasonable demands in negotiations that Ukrainians could accept (i.e., referenda to determine Crimea and Donbas status, NATO and/or EU for the rest of Ukraine). Russia would have had more of an incentive to end the invasion.

    Western allies were too timid to provide what was necessary for a quick end to the war, so now there is a much longer and messier war with potentially more dangerous consequences for everyone.
     
    Any chance of Russia placing nuclear missiles in Crimea if Ukraine would have retaken (will retake?) the Crimean Corridor?

    I think that if Ukraine would have already reconquered Crimea, giving it up even in exchange for Russian consent to Ukrainian EU and NATO membership might have proven a difficult prospect. At the very least, Ukraine might have insisted on Crimeans getting a taste of renewed Ukrainian rule for 10 or 20 years before a referendum to determine its final status will be held.

    And Yes, the US was certainly extremely concerned that Russia could use nuclear weapons in Ukraine in late 2022:

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/09/politics/us-prepared-rigorously-potential-russian-nuclear-strike-ukraine/index.html#:~:text=The%20Biden%20administration%20was%20specifically,nuclear%20weapon%2C%20the%20officials%20said.&text=The%20administration's%20fear%2C%20a%20second,information%20that%20we%20picked%20up.%E2%80%9D

    Maybe their fears were excessive, but in their defense, they likely believed that preserving 90% (80% if using 2013 borders) of Ukraine as free and independent was more important than taking big risks. Maybe their calculations in regards to this were wrong, but they did prefer to have most of what they wanted than to risk a catastrophic scenario, even if the odds of this would have been very small. (To be fair, I do think that the USSR would have been willing to use the nuclear missiles that it had in Cuba had the US invaded Cuba in 1962 and not immediately destroyed all of the Soviet nuclear missiles and/or missile launchers. Maybe I would have been wrong about this, but still, this isn't actually a risk that I would have wanted to take.)
  356. Drones destroy 12% Russia’s oil refining capacity in two days

    This 2.5 week special operation is going splendidly!

    “I could take Ukraine in 2 weeks if I wanted to”

    – Putin in 2014 interview

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Bullshit.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @sudden death
    @John Johnson


    The systematic approach differs from the chaotic one in that it allows modeling and creating forecasts based on the models. And so far they are not very reassuring - Kyiv intends to turn off about 25-30 percent of the country's processing capacities, which are located on European territory within reach. That is, to the Volga. So far he cannot reach Tatarstan and Bashkiria. This is if you count large and medium-sized processing plants. Next will be oil storage facilities and shipping ports - at least two, in the south and northwest. As a result, we may face a serious fuel collapse.

    This program may take six months or a little more to complete, but, in general, after losing 15 percent of capacity, a fuel shortage will become inevitable. So far, apparently, somewhere around 10 have been lost.
     
    https://t.me/anatoly_nesmiyan/17206
  357. @AP
    @Beckow


    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French

    I did the math, 255k out of 643k were French, it was 39% – I was closer…:)
     
    You didn't read further, not all of those crossed the border. And the 255k didn't include French from Belgium which was part of France under Napoleon.

    From the article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_of_the_French_invasion_of_Russia

    "After a whole day of preparation by Morand and Eblé, the invasion commenced on Midsummer, 24 June 1812 with Napoleon's army crossing the river. Half of them were foreigners"

    "Georges Lefebvre suggested that Napoleon crossed the Neman with over 600,000 soldiers, only half of whom were from France."

    "Riehn provides the following figures: 685,000 men marched into Russia in 1812, of whom around 355,000 were French; 31,000 soldiers marched out again in some sort of military formation, with perhaps another 35,000 stragglers, for a total of less than 70,000 known survivors."

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany

    Haha, good one…When? In May 1945?
     
    You lie as always.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Free-French

    More than 100,000 Free French troops fought in the Anglo-American campaign in Italy in 1943, and, by the time of the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944, the Free French forces had swelled to more than 300,000 regular troops. They were almost wholly American-equipped and supplied. In August 1944 the Free French 1st Army, under General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny, took part in the Allies’ invasion of southern France, driving thence northeastward into Alsace before joining in the Western Allies’ final thrust into Germany.

    On the Nazi side was not only the French SS Division and the Frenchies from Alsace-Lorraine, but a few hundred thousand Vichy soldiers, gendarmes, police,
     
    These weren't fighting the Soviets and sat in the unoccupied parts of France and colonies.

    So about 15,000 French joined the Germans in fighting against the Soviets (plus 130,000 ethnic Germans from Alsace-Lorraine) - versus about 300,000 French fighting against the Germans. Far more French fought against the Germans than fought against the Soviets.

    You keep on going back to Poland in 1920,
     
    Because it is the closest analogue to the current situation, though it is of course not a perfect match.

    The ending will be the same as always
     
    Soviet Russia was driven out of Poland in 1920-1921.

    Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Same as always?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Coconuts

    …Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Are you suggesting they do it again? How long would we be around to enjoy the show?

    The main result of the Crimean War was the destruction of the Habsburg Empire – it lost its main ally in Russia and the Balkans became a battleground leading to WW1. There is an analogy with Germany today – also trying to stay neutral – likely the biggest loser of the Nato-Russia war.

    But all similarities are far fetched. The West has ignored the obvious Russian regional dominance. Kiev wouldn’t last a month without the Nato support. But only remote and indirect – it can’t change the reality. Time is on Russia’s side. Any deal now will be worse for Ukraine than what they had in the past.

    What is important about the Crimean War is the France-Anglo deep support for Turkey who occupied huge Orthodox Christian lands and suppressed the Europenas living there. But the Westies sided with the Turks – even went to war to protect their Euro empire. Russia learned the lesson – they are also explicitly using non-Euros as allies against the West. The ‘conservative’ Euros can complain, but they have never managed to keep their own liberal elites from using any group against Russia. Now Russia is doing it to them and it further weakens Europe. La Pen and Georgina stepped in it again.

    The “Free French” numbers you invented are propaganda nonsense – mostly colonials drafted by Allies at the end of the war. When it mattered the Frenchies fought as volunteers with the Nazis in 1941-43. After Germany was defeated by Russia in 1942-3 many countries switched sides. It doesn’t count.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    …Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Are you suggesting they do it again? How long would we be around to enjoy the show
     

    Russia wouldn't go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn't sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.

    But all similarities are far fetched. The West has ignored the obvious Russian regional dominance. Kiev wouldn’t last a month without the Nato support.
     
    Kiev stopped the Russians with minimal Western support (Javelins were helpful but they also used a lot of native Stugnas).

    Without Western support, Kiev's conventional military would have lasted about 6 months to a year, and then there would have been guerilla war, urban combat, and terrorism. It's not easy to occupy 30 million well-armed people. It would have all been a lot bloodier.

    But of course there was zero chance of no Western support. At the very least the Poles would have donated quite a lot.


    Time is on Russia’s side
     
    So you say and wish, in your desperation.

    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it's not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia), Russia has limitations that Kiev doesn't have. Moscow boys are much less willing to fight in Ukraine, than Kiev boys are willing to fight in Ukraine. Thus, the practical discrepancy between populations is much less than the raw population differences. Russia must rely on convicts, volunteers from very poor regions willing to die for the money, etc. This number isn't limitless. Try mass conscripting regular people from Moscow, Nizhni against their will to get their guts blown out in a field outside Kherson and see what happens.

    How are Russia's currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.

    So we cannot know who has more time. But it does look like Russia's leaders are more desperate to try to end things sooner. What do they know that we don't?


    The “Free French” numbers you invented are propaganda nonsense
     
    I quoted from Britannica which last I checked is more reliable than you are, and which is probably not a pro-French propaganda outlet.

    When it mattered the Frenchies fought as volunteers with the Nazis in 1941-43
     
    15,000 made no difference. And by 1943, there were already 100,000 Free French forces fighting in Italy.

    300,000 in 1944 did make a difference. They helped liberate France and drive into western Germany.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean

  358. @LatW
    @Beckow


    La Pen is inching to ‘respectability’, so it is compulsory.
     
    Of course, I understand that this is largely domestic politics (although she used some very strong language, calling Ukrainians "martyrs", "heroic", my French is not that good, but it sounded like she even said something like "the heroic battle of Ukrainians will lead to Russia's defeat"). But even that is new and quite meaningful. She has also noticed the recent crazy rhetoric from Medvedev against the French.

    One thing La Pen said is true and puzzling:

    …the best strategic ambiguity is silence.
     

    She is right, but that's how it should've been in the beginning of the war - some Western leaders came out at that time saying what they "will not do". That was stupid. They should've condemned the aggression, kept the strategic ambiguity by staying mostly silent and simply pass the weapons along quietly. But probably wasn't possible, given the nature of today's public diplomacy when everything is kind of out in the open (which in a way is more democratic).

    Obvious, so why is Macron doing the circus show? He is doing the opposite of ambiguity and he tripled-down, it is not an accident.
     
    Why now? Because they overslept and let the whole thing drag out too long. And Macron is right when he mentions that he was the one who tried the longest to convince Putin not to do this, that effort was commendable, it's just that he must not have believed Putin's real intentions (that were laid out in the December 2021 ultimatum). Macron probably found those not serious, but now he sees that they were meant seriously.

    I think another very important element here was Trump. Because, once again, Trump started flirting with the idea of leaving NATO, trashing Europeans, even saying he would encourage Putin to attack Europe (with his fans hooting and hollering in the background). How long can the Euros tolerate this? It's been going on already from 2016.


    Keep Odessa in Ukraine – Odessa is a stand-in for a territorial compromise, Macron is sketching out the future borders. Nato wants Kiev to keep some strategic regions like Odessa.
     
    Romania can be viewed as a country that has had some French patronage, and Moldova is practically Romania. So Macron's concerns about this area are understandable.

    But there is nothing about Kherson or Kharkov.
     
    They may not openly talk about this right now, because they don't have the means and mostly political will to do anything about it right now (even though what Petr Pavel just did is pretty amazing). Without aviation there is not much they can do, probably.

    Frankly, Kharkiv should be the job of Ukrainians themselves, many of us are pissed about what is going on there right now, not just the Ukes (many of us had acquaintances there and decades long relations). The Russian volunteer raid is partly about Kharkiv, to push the Russians further away, so they stop the savage bombings. The Ukrainians could defend it themselves if given the ammo and help with air defense.

    So I doubt someone like Macron would have a plan about the areas that far east, it is in a flux right now, even if they are talking about options, this would be a huge endeavor, so it would need to be planned out very carefully. Not sure they are ready for it yet.


    No Nato in Ukraine is a given but the West wants a viable rump-Ukraine with “Odessa”.
     
    It's still too early for that kind of a "negotiation". It's far from over. Plus the West will be very careful to even have these kinds of negotiations, as this is essentially a partition of Ukraine against the will of the population (that measures in tens of millions). Too big of a deal.

    Or we will open the gates of hell. But I think we already have…
     
    If it ends up being demonstrated that "might makes right" at such a large scale, then it will be very likely that those who possess any kind of significant power (or even just power vis a vis their neighbors or vulnerable groups) will be very tempted to exercise it. This is the law of Nature, unfortunately. And then nobody will be able to contain that chaos. This is what Le Pen also warned about. So the French seem to have finally understood it (and they are being pushed out of Africa in the meantime, by something like the Wagner group... geez, where is their self-respect - maybe that, too, is another reason for Macron's recent rhetoric).

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

    they overslept and let the whole thing drag out too long. And Macron is right when he mentions that he was the one who tried the longest to convince Putin not to do this

    Macron is a narcissist and a manipulator as the Frenchies tend to be. Russia cut them off and he is hysterical. Making threats – because that is what they are – without ability to carry them out is stupid and makes France weaker.

    Imagine the French army moving openly into Ukraine (Odessa) assisted by the Romanians. How many? 25k or 50k? How many would be destroyed? Would the French bring in the air force? How long before Bucarest is bombed? How would we avoid an all out war with cities all over Europe destroyed?

    My optimistic interpretation was in what Macron didn't say – in his narrowly focused threats. It sounded like a guy about to surrender who says 'but if you try to take my shoes I will bite‘.

    West will be very careful to even have these kinds of negotiations, as this is essentially a partition of Ukraine against the will of the population

    Russia and the Russians living in Ukraine (also millions) will be even more careful. It was the West and Kiev that broke the previous treaties. All border changes are ‘partitions’ against the will of parts of the population. Kosovo partition was against the will of people of Serbia, Catalans in Spain, Ulster, etc…it is always like that. But the millions of Russians living in Ukraine also have rights – the ones in Donbas, Crimea, Azov coastline want to be a part of Russia. What do you propose to do about it? Expel them? Kill them? The Ukies screwed up encouraged by crazies in the West, now they are paying a very high price.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Where do you think the negotiations are going to be? The last ones were in Turkey but they double crossed the Russians after by giving Ukraine the Azov prisoners. I'm thinking a railroad car on the front line or maybe in Antarctica. The diplomatic and back-channel relations are so poisoned at this point Iceland or Switzerland might not even be an acceptable host for the Russians.

    Vietnam?

    What is the least aligned country with a hotel and a jet runway?

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @LatW
    @Beckow


    Macron is a narcissist and a manipulator as the Frenchies tend to be.
     
    How is Macron a "narcissist" (more so than other pols, especially the likes of Putin & Trump... please)? He is quite charming and a very good communicator. He came out now because he's a narcissist? Come on, what kind of an argument is that? :) He's on his second term and can be more free in his expressions, but also the security situation is objectively serious.

    I don't see how the French are "manipulators" - they are a bit different in some ways, but the French can be trusted. Everyone has to be a bit of a manipulator in the modern world, I wish it weren't so.

    Russia cut them off and he is hysterical.
     
    His effort prior to the war was commendable (even if probably futile due to not understanding the gravity of Russia's revanchism). He spent hundreds of hours on the phone with someone who is not that respectful. And apparently the Russians cyber attacked French hospitals - that's what he just said in the interview (I had somehow missed that). That's very serious. Russians attack the Balts a lot, but typically governmental websites (and now the GPS), but a hospital?

    Making threats – because that is what they are –
     
    These are not yet threats. Listen to his language. Language was assertive, bold, new, but no threats. For a large nuclear country such as France, the language was appropriate. He did not go into detail of what the EU is planning to do, he just said we must be alert, prepared and not weak. This is good, rational language. Yes, it is unusual and new, I'm still stunned by this recent 180, first the Germans and now the French, never expected to see anything like that. But there is no need for hype or hysteria. He simply reminded everyone that France, too, is a nuclear country. And that we have to be strong - everyone already knows this, we have to be strong for the times ahead.

    Don't know why you latch so hard on this "sending troops" comment - he simply left the question open, he didn't say "we're doing it". The Russian troops are still relatively far. There are other means besides soldiers that could be employed now. Which is what they agreed on yesterday.

    without ability to carry them out is stupid and makes France weaker.
     
    This one I agree with. Best is not to talk before you have the means, but he simply works in the public diplomacy space so he has to prepare the public.

    Imagine the French army moving openly into Ukraine (Odessa) assisted by the Romanians. How many? 25k or 50k? How many would be destroyed?
     
    It's way, way too early for this kind of a conversation, but if it were to happen, hypothetically, they would have full air support, unlike with the Ukrainian troops now (unfortunately). Besides, the Euro troops, even if they were to be sent, would mostly assist with de-mining, fixing vehicles, alleviating the Ukro troops stationed on the Belarusian border. It's possible but there are special forces operating there already, but it's hard to prove, so futile to make such statements. The Ukrainians have simply shown good capability.

    How long before Bucarest is bombed? How would we avoid an all out war with cities all over Europe destroyed?
     
    Best is to not succumb to hysteria.


    It sounded like a guy about to surrender who says 'but if you try to take my shoes I will bite‘.
     
    Oh, if you try to take my damn shoes, I will bite, - that's exactly right. Putin already laid out in his ultimatum what he wanted to take. So far, his terrible program, despite of the major setbacks, is going according to the plan (the destruction of Ukraine continues). Hence, Europe needs to strategize.

    Russia and the Russians living in Ukraine (also millions) will be even more careful.
     
    The situation has changed very dramatically for the Russians living in Ukraine, as many of those "Russians" (in reality, ethnically mixed folks) hate RusFed now and many have been destroyed by Putin. Russia doesn't need to be "careful" in the sense that I suggested, because they already occupy large territories. However, things are far from over - not only they have to hold those territories now, expending significant resources, but they will soon have war on their own territory. In fact, it's already happening as we speak. It will be a death by a thousand cuts.

    All border changes are ‘partitions’ against the will of parts of the population.
     
    This is not to be taken lightly, ever. In this case, it is absolutely crazy, absolutely no respect for human life and dignity - there are millions of people displaced and exiled, thousands killed, cities in complete ruins. You are trying to be nonchalant about this, as if it's not a big deal, but the world sees everything. Many are not ok with this. Hundreds of millions probably.

    But the millions of Russians living in Ukraine also have rights – the ones in Donbas, Crimea, Azov coastline want to be a part of Russia. What do you propose to do about it?
     
    What to do about it in 2014 and in 2024 are two very different things. It could've potentially been solved with a lot of work, before, but maybe it's not worth it. I see that with my own country now - after all the work, there are good results, but the problem is not solvable. Each nation has to have their own state, if they can't cohabit. It's just that it's worse in Donbas as it was a partly mixed area and very heavily russified in the last 50 or so years. So most likely, some kind of a combination of approaches could've worked. This is assuming that RusFed would not interfere, but they always do (to make things worse, they deliberately meddle to shake things up and create chaos, this has been their MO since the early 90s, you can pretend all you want that it wasn't malign but it was objectively so, they admit their intentions more openly than you do, you're just not following their media where they talk very openly about all their neighbors).

    Replies: @Beckow

  359. @Matra
    "Russia delenda est" says the Latvian president.

    Active personnel in the Latvian armed forces: 17k.

    https://twitter.com/phl43/status/1768873725850493109

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel, @LatW

    At least he didn’t say the Russians are Amalek and the Russian people must all be killed to the last woman and child. : )

  360. @John Johnson
    Drones destroy 12% Russia's oil refining capacity in two days

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKgNf1v0BM8

    This 2.5 week special operation is going splendidly!

    "I could take Ukraine in 2 weeks if I wanted to"

    - Putin in 2014 interview

    Replies: @Mikhail, @sudden death

    Bullshit.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Is this your new nickname here, or is it the sorry state of affairs within Russia's energy consortium?

    You can't complain that you weren't prepared for this, Ukrainian drones have been hitting Russian refineries for weeks now (and planes, ships etc;).

    https://images.cartoonstock.com/lowres/russian-gas-crisis-europe-firewood-fire-russian_gas-russian_gas_supplies-russian_pipelines-CS573062_low.jpg

    Replies: @Mikhail

  361. @Beckow
    @LatW


    they overslept and let the whole thing drag out too long. And Macron is right when he mentions that he was the one who tried the longest to convince Putin not to do this
     
    Macron is a narcissist and a manipulator as the Frenchies tend to be. Russia cut them off and he is hysterical. Making threats - because that is what they are - without ability to carry them out is stupid and makes France weaker.

    Imagine the French army moving openly into Ukraine (Odessa) assisted by the Romanians. How many? 25k or 50k? How many would be destroyed? Would the French bring in the air force? How long before Bucarest is bombed? How would we avoid an all out war with cities all over Europe destroyed?

    My optimistic interpretation was in what Macron didn't say - in his narrowly focused threats. It sounded like a guy about to surrender who says 'but if you try to take my shoes I will bite'.


    West will be very careful to even have these kinds of negotiations, as this is essentially a partition of Ukraine against the will of the population
     
    Russia and the Russians living in Ukraine (also millions) will be even more careful. It was the West and Kiev that broke the previous treaties. All border changes are 'partitions' against the will of parts of the population. Kosovo partition was against the will of people of Serbia, Catalans in Spain, Ulster, etc...it is always like that. But the millions of Russians living in Ukraine also have rights - the ones in Donbas, Crimea, Azov coastline want to be a part of Russia. What do you propose to do about it? Expel them? Kill them? The Ukies screwed up encouraged by crazies in the West, now they are paying a very high price.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    Where do you think the negotiations are going to be? The last ones were in Turkey but they double crossed the Russians after by giving Ukraine the Azov prisoners. I’m thinking a railroad car on the front line or maybe in Antarctica. The diplomatic and back-channel relations are so poisoned at this point Iceland or Switzerland might not even be an acceptable host for the Russians.

    Vietnam?

    What is the least aligned country with a hotel and a jet runway?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    ...Where do you think the negotiations are going to be?
     
    My favorite would be Budapest, but Hungary is in Nato. Possibly Vienna or Baku.

    I am not sure there will be negotiations. If Russia wins they don't need them. If it is a stalemate the obsession in the West with improving the situation before talking will postpone it indefinitely.

    The players need to change: Zelko is too much of a joke, Zaluzhny a hard-liner, Macron-Scholz-Indian are unserious. And Biden? A very bad visual, so no way.

    Why waste time talking? Let's just do the fireworks.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  362. Orcas slap a lot of different animals with their tails to stun them.

    [MORE]

    Stingray:

    Fish:

    Seal: (air-launched for a considerable distance.)

    This is probably why it is unwise for another orca to try to bite the tail of an orca.

    A gray whale swims 10,000 miles round trip without eating. This may be related to why many beach themselves.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Dolphins Use Pufferfish To Get High?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH6FRLfBhyk

    Replies: @songbird

  363. @John Johnson
    Drones destroy 12% Russia's oil refining capacity in two days

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKgNf1v0BM8

    This 2.5 week special operation is going splendidly!

    "I could take Ukraine in 2 weeks if I wanted to"

    - Putin in 2014 interview

    Replies: @Mikhail, @sudden death

    The systematic approach differs from the chaotic one in that it allows modeling and creating forecasts based on the models. And so far they are not very reassuring – Kyiv intends to turn off about 25-30 percent of the country’s processing capacities, which are located on European territory within reach. That is, to the Volga. So far he cannot reach Tatarstan and Bashkiria. This is if you count large and medium-sized processing plants. Next will be oil storage facilities and shipping ports – at least two, in the south and northwest. As a result, we may face a serious fuel collapse.

    This program may take six months or a little more to complete, but, in general, after losing 15 percent of capacity, a fuel shortage will become inevitable. So far, apparently, somewhere around 10 have been lost.

    https://t.me/anatoly_nesmiyan/17206

  364. @songbird
    Orcas slap a lot of different animals with their tails to stun them.

    Stingray:
    https://youtu.be/QVh6buGtz_g?si=XOcgsMucYBf1NbMt

    Fish:
    https://youtu.be/ETL1fwcDUQ4?si=GDythK8qYZ_TEMSN

    Seal: (air-launched for a considerable distance.)
    https://youtu.be/G7WGIH35JBE?si=1Hsd9p1FEmcK1XJq

    This is probably why it is unwise for another orca to try to bite the tail of an orca.

    A gray whale swims 10,000 miles round trip without eating. This may be related to why many beach themselves.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Dolphins Use Pufferfish To Get High?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    A lot of controversialists will say that dolphins are worse than sharks. For various reasons, including that sharks might rape, but they don't gangbang rape. And sharks don't get angry.

    It may be true to a certain extent that shark attacks are not that common if you go by number of interactions and compare to things like a lion or tiger. But I would much rather be bitten by a dolphin than a shark. You get bitten by a shark and you might lose a limb, if you are lucky.

    This steller sea lion lasted 3+ hrs against a pod of orcas.

    https://youtu.be/pHAtRGu-WWI?si=TajRiYB_KPrQPbxn

    I may have to revise my initial thoughts on the sperm whale match-up, granted sea lions are considerably more maneuverable.

    Replies: @AP

  365. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Bullshit.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Is this your new nickname here, or is it the sorry state of affairs within Russia’s energy consortium?

    You can’t complain that you weren’t prepared for this, Ukrainian drones have been hitting Russian refineries for weeks now (and planes, ships etc;).

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    In your delusional dreams.

  366. Two more Russian refineries have been hit:

    Happy Fake Election day!!!!

    Now a quote from history for Putin as he watches his refineries burn:

    The beginning of every war is like opening the door into a dark room. One never knows what is hidden in the darkness.

    – A watercolor painter

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson


    Happy Fake Election day!!!!
     
    Unlike Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, which cancelled an upcoming prez election and the US where most of the population doesn't prefer either Trump or Biden.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    , @sudden death
    @John Johnson


    Judging by the behind-the-scenes commentary, the Syzran Oil Refinery has been shut down for a long time, since we are talking about the installation of K-2 and AVT-6. Their capacity is 6 million tonnes of raw oil per year, the replacement period for such a column is approximately one and a half to two years. And this is if the another drone doesn’t fly along the repaired column again.
     
    Targets:
    https://i.postimg.cc/51fk78c5/raw-oil-column.jpg

    Tools:
    https://i.postimg.cc/9mDPKXph/UA-drones.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson

  367. @Matra
    "Russia delenda est" says the Latvian president.

    Active personnel in the Latvian armed forces: 17k.

    https://twitter.com/phl43/status/1768873725850493109

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel, @LatW

    Thanks for that tweet. Very informative, especially the comments to the tweet by that Edgards Latvian guy. One of them has a 29 minute interview with Macron dubbed in English where he explains his reasons for sending French troops to Ukraine at some point.

    I think this was the third time he defended the idea. Anyone thinking that he is bluffing and that there aren’t winds of war with Russia blowing in Europe should listen to that interview. He is clearly trying to convince the French public opinion about the necessity of going to war in a foreign country. Given the rather bovine attitude of the interviewers, who only mention the nukes once in passing, he may actually be able to succeed.

    It may be a generational thing. The invasion of Czechoslovakia by the Soviets was not less outrageous. At least the Czechs hadn’t killed thousands of Russophone civilians. And their Maidanesque aspirations in 1968 of joining the West proved to be a reasonable idea once the Iron Curtain fell, they were able to do it remarkably well. They even gave us all a lesson of civility with the Velvet Revolution. But people in those times were different. Everyone was capable of making the immediate mental association between sending Western troops to help the Czechs and provoking a nuclear war that would be much more devastating than what the Soviets were doing in that country. So the Czechs were sadly crushed. Now people have lost these mental abilities to gauge actions and consequences, or assess the difference between greater and lesser evils. It must be connected to the loss of the ability to acknowledge that the human species only has two genders or that tens of millions of migrants from the 3rd World are not going to recreate the societies they come from.

    The case of the Balts is different. I would like to think that they know something about the Russians that I don’t, and they don’t believe the Russians would ever use their nukes, which would be great if true. But I suspect it’s something much more primitive than that.

  368. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Is this your new nickname here, or is it the sorry state of affairs within Russia's energy consortium?

    You can't complain that you weren't prepared for this, Ukrainian drones have been hitting Russian refineries for weeks now (and planes, ships etc;).

    https://images.cartoonstock.com/lowres/russian-gas-crisis-europe-firewood-fire-russian_gas-russian_gas_supplies-russian_pipelines-CS573062_low.jpg

    Replies: @Mikhail

    In your delusional dreams.

  369. @John Johnson
    Two more Russian refineries have been hit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vlfbEnjk0I

    Happy Fake Election day!!!!


    Now a quote from history for Putin as he watches his refineries burn:

    The beginning of every war is like opening the door into a dark room. One never knows what is hidden in the darkness.

    - A watercolor painter

    Replies: @Mikhail, @sudden death

    Happy Fake Election day!!!!

    Unlike Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, which cancelled an upcoming prez election and the US where most of the population doesn’t prefer either Trump or Biden.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Don't forget Mickey, Ukraine is involved in a war right now, whereas Russia is only involved in a "SchMO", mopping up after a 2.5 week operation! :-)

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2023/2023-02-21/22627518-8b17-4fb3-9568-3228e024d1f6.jpeg

    , @AP
    @Mikhail


    Happy Fake Election day!!!!

    Unlike Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, which cancelled an upcoming prez election
     
    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I'm sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.

    Britain also didn't run an election during its war.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikhail

  370. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Dolphins Use Pufferfish To Get High?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH6FRLfBhyk

    Replies: @songbird

    A lot of controversialists will say that dolphins are worse than sharks. For various reasons, including that sharks might rape, but they don’t gangbang rape. And sharks don’t get angry.

    It may be true to a certain extent that shark attacks are not that common if you go by number of interactions and compare to things like a lion or tiger. But I would much rather be bitten by a dolphin than a shark. You get bitten by a shark and you might lose a limb, if you are lucky.

    This steller sea lion lasted 3+ hrs against a pod of orcas.

    [MORE]

    I may have to revise my initial thoughts on the sperm whale match-up, granted sea lions are considerably more maneuverable.

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird

    Sad. They should have allowed the sea lion onto one of the boats, though maybe it was too big.

    It's interesting how evolution worked out in the ocean. The Apex predators (orcas) are distantly related to cattle, while the prey are related to wolves and bears.

  371. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson


    Happy Fake Election day!!!!
     
    Unlike Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, which cancelled an upcoming prez election and the US where most of the population doesn't prefer either Trump or Biden.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Don’t forget Mickey, Ukraine is involved in a war right now, whereas Russia is only involved in a “SchMO”, mopping up after a 2.5 week operation! 🙂

  372. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Where do you think the negotiations are going to be? The last ones were in Turkey but they double crossed the Russians after by giving Ukraine the Azov prisoners. I'm thinking a railroad car on the front line or maybe in Antarctica. The diplomatic and back-channel relations are so poisoned at this point Iceland or Switzerland might not even be an acceptable host for the Russians.

    Vietnam?

    What is the least aligned country with a hotel and a jet runway?

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Where do you think the negotiations are going to be?

    My favorite would be Budapest, but Hungary is in Nato. Possibly Vienna or Baku.

    I am not sure there will be negotiations. If Russia wins they don’t need them. If it is a stalemate the obsession in the West with improving the situation before talking will postpone it indefinitely.

    The players need to change: Zelko is too much of a joke, Zaluzhny a hard-liner, Macron-Scholz-Indian are unserious. And Biden? A very bad visual, so no way.

    Why waste time talking? Let’s just do the fireworks.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    If Russia wins they don’t need them.
     
    Are you blind or just stupid? Don't you watch the news (or just post comments based on your orders from the centralna rada), you haven't noticed the dramatic events favoring Ukraine over the last month?

    The players need to change: Zelko is too much of a joke, Zaluzhny a hard-liner, Macron-Scholz-Indian are unserious. And Biden? A very bad visual, so no way.
     
    It's easier to change one player, instead of six as you suggest. Why not get rid of the biggest clown of all, Putler? He seems to be the one with the lowest IQ in the bunch.

    Replies: @Derer, @Beckow

  373. @John Johnson
    Two more Russian refineries have been hit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vlfbEnjk0I

    Happy Fake Election day!!!!


    Now a quote from history for Putin as he watches his refineries burn:

    The beginning of every war is like opening the door into a dark room. One never knows what is hidden in the darkness.

    - A watercolor painter

    Replies: @Mikhail, @sudden death

    Judging by the behind-the-scenes commentary, the Syzran Oil Refinery has been shut down for a long time, since we are talking about the installation of K-2 and AVT-6. Their capacity is 6 million tonnes of raw oil per year, the replacement period for such a column is approximately one and a half to two years. And this is if the another drone doesn’t fly along the repaired column again.

    Targets:
    Tools:

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @sudden death

    That makes for a very nice target since it is pressurized. Thanks for sharing that cutaway view, very interesting.

    And they did it again:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJkEfRQ3p9Y

    Someone in the comments said that the distillation towers rely on Western parts.

    Replies: @LatW

  374. AP says:
    @Mikhail
    @John Johnson


    Happy Fake Election day!!!!
     
    Unlike Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, which cancelled an upcoming prez election and the US where most of the population doesn't prefer either Trump or Biden.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Happy Fake Election day!!!!

    Unlike Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, which cancelled an upcoming prez election

    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I’m sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.

    Britain also didn’t run an election during its war.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Britain also didn’t run an election during its war.

     

    Wars, plural. AFAIK, Britain didn't hold elections during either WWI or WWII.
    , @Mikhail
    @AP


    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I’m sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.
     
    You omitted the already banned political parties. Russia is in armed conflict and holding an election, inclusive of some former Ukrainian SSR territory. So much for the BS about Kiev regime successes striking Russian forces and Russian areas.

    Replies: @AP

  375. Anti-Russia Film Wins Best Documentary Oscar!

    Will NATO engage Russian forces as a Ukrainian victory becomes dimmer?

    The West in Decline – John Mearsheimer, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Looks to me like your backing the wrong horse Mickey, based on all of the anti war/Russia stuff your posting.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  376. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    ...Where do you think the negotiations are going to be?
     
    My favorite would be Budapest, but Hungary is in Nato. Possibly Vienna or Baku.

    I am not sure there will be negotiations. If Russia wins they don't need them. If it is a stalemate the obsession in the West with improving the situation before talking will postpone it indefinitely.

    The players need to change: Zelko is too much of a joke, Zaluzhny a hard-liner, Macron-Scholz-Indian are unserious. And Biden? A very bad visual, so no way.

    Why waste time talking? Let's just do the fireworks.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    If Russia wins they don’t need them.

    Are you blind or just stupid? Don’t you watch the news (or just post comments based on your orders from the centralna rada), you haven’t noticed the dramatic events favoring Ukraine over the last month?

    The players need to change: Zelko is too much of a joke, Zaluzhny a hard-liner, Macron-Scholz-Indian are unserious. And Biden? A very bad visual, so no way.

    It’s easier to change one player, instead of six as you suggest. Why not get rid of the biggest clown of all, Putler? He seems to be the one with the lowest IQ in the bunch.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    He (Putin) seems to be the one with the lowest IQ in the bunch.
     
    You are absolute idiot or getting nervous break down from your hate. Realistically the puppet of Germany (and he really looks like that), supports criminals that blew up Germany's energy supplies worth billions of German finances, must have the IQ of my shoe size.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...you haven’t noticed the dramatic events favoring Ukraine over the last month?
     
    Can you tell us what they were? Russia took Avdejevka, destroyd Patriots-S300's, Ukies lost a bunch of villages and failed when they tried to invade Russia. And Macron had a fit of hysteria. What else? What am I missing?

    We have no way of knowing the IQs of main players - other than we know that yours is quite low, maybe mid-90's on a good day? You are having mostly bad days now.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  377. @Mikhail
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Gc0u4TdjY

    Anti-Russia Film Wins Best Documentary Oscar!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIdIHpWI4Lg

    Will NATO engage Russian forces as a Ukrainian victory becomes dimmer?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zpbkQum8a4

    The West in Decline – John Mearsheimer, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNoUHzd1LcM

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Looks to me like your backing the wrong horse Mickey, based on all of the anti war/Russia stuff your posting.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    !?

  378. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    A lot of controversialists will say that dolphins are worse than sharks. For various reasons, including that sharks might rape, but they don't gangbang rape. And sharks don't get angry.

    It may be true to a certain extent that shark attacks are not that common if you go by number of interactions and compare to things like a lion or tiger. But I would much rather be bitten by a dolphin than a shark. You get bitten by a shark and you might lose a limb, if you are lucky.

    This steller sea lion lasted 3+ hrs against a pod of orcas.

    https://youtu.be/pHAtRGu-WWI?si=TajRiYB_KPrQPbxn

    I may have to revise my initial thoughts on the sperm whale match-up, granted sea lions are considerably more maneuverable.

    Replies: @AP

    Sad. They should have allowed the sea lion onto one of the boats, though maybe it was too big.

    It’s interesting how evolution worked out in the ocean. The Apex predators (orcas) are distantly related to cattle, while the prey are related to wolves and bears.

    • Agree: songbird
  379. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Thanks, Doyle did write a few "scary" (for that time) short stories without Holmes that I imagine did also have a Poe influence. I remember quite enjoying the one featuring catacombs, in which a K-selected man gets revenge on an r-selected one.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    a K-selected man gets revenge on an r-selected one.

    Did he really? I can’t quite envision an r-selected man?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    I can’t quite envision an r-selected man?
     
    Picture BoJo, and you'd be on the right track.
    , @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Here are some pictures from the story, but I regret to say they may not show the appropriate physiognomy:
    https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php?title=The_New_Catacomb#Illustrations

    But you may want to read the story first:
    https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php?title=The_New_Catacomb#The_New_Catacomb

  380. AP says:
    @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.
     
    Are you suggesting they do it again? How long would we be around to enjoy the show?

    The main result of the Crimean War was the destruction of the Habsburg Empire - it lost its main ally in Russia and the Balkans became a battleground leading to WW1. There is an analogy with Germany today - also trying to stay neutral - likely the biggest loser of the Nato-Russia war.

    But all similarities are far fetched. The West has ignored the obvious Russian regional dominance. Kiev wouldn't last a month without the Nato support. But only remote and indirect - it can't change the reality. Time is on Russia's side. Any deal now will be worse for Ukraine than what they had in the past.

    What is important about the Crimean War is the France-Anglo deep support for Turkey who occupied huge Orthodox Christian lands and suppressed the Europenas living there. But the Westies sided with the Turks - even went to war to protect their Euro empire. Russia learned the lesson - they are also explicitly using non-Euros as allies against the West. The 'conservative' Euros can complain, but they have never managed to keep their own liberal elites from using any group against Russia. Now Russia is doing it to them and it further weakens Europe. La Pen and Georgina stepped in it again.

    The "Free French" numbers you invented are propaganda nonsense - mostly colonials drafted by Allies at the end of the war. When it mattered the Frenchies fought as volunteers with the Nazis in 1941-43. After Germany was defeated by Russia in 1942-3 many countries switched sides. It doesn't count.

    Replies: @AP

    …Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Are you suggesting they do it again? How long would we be around to enjoy the show

    Russia wouldn’t go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn’t sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.

    But all similarities are far fetched. The West has ignored the obvious Russian regional dominance. Kiev wouldn’t last a month without the Nato support.

    Kiev stopped the Russians with minimal Western support (Javelins were helpful but they also used a lot of native Stugnas).

    Without Western support, Kiev’s conventional military would have lasted about 6 months to a year, and then there would have been guerilla war, urban combat, and terrorism. It’s not easy to occupy 30 million well-armed people. It would have all been a lot bloodier.

    But of course there was zero chance of no Western support. At the very least the Poles would have donated quite a lot.

    Time is on Russia’s side

    So you say and wish, in your desperation.

    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it’s not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia), Russia has limitations that Kiev doesn’t have. Moscow boys are much less willing to fight in Ukraine, than Kiev boys are willing to fight in Ukraine. Thus, the practical discrepancy between populations is much less than the raw population differences. Russia must rely on convicts, volunteers from very poor regions willing to die for the money, etc. This number isn’t limitless. Try mass conscripting regular people from Moscow, Nizhni against their will to get their guts blown out in a field outside Kherson and see what happens.

    How are Russia’s currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.

    So we cannot know who has more time. But it does look like Russia’s leaders are more desperate to try to end things sooner. What do they know that we don’t?

    The “Free French” numbers you invented are propaganda nonsense

    I quoted from Britannica which last I checked is more reliable than you are, and which is probably not a pro-French propaganda outlet.

    When it mattered the Frenchies fought as volunteers with the Nazis in 1941-43

    15,000 made no difference. And by 1943, there were already 100,000 Free French forces fighting in Italy.

    300,000 in 1944 did make a difference. They helped liberate France and drive into western Germany.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @A123
    @AP


    Russia wouldn’t go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn’t sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.
     
    You are badly misreading the mindset of the opposition. Russia believes Russian Crimea is Russia. There is no reason to believe that an attack on Russia would be allowed to stand. If France voids its Article V protection by going on offense. How would Russia respond?

    What if the Kremlin chooses to preempt with 500+ strategic thermonuclear warheads into France and their naval vessels at sea? It is the type of rational operating concept that is in a binder somewhere. The plan would be to destroy most, possibly all, of France's nuclear arsenal on the ground/water.

    Are you 100% sure that this scenario cannot possibly happen?

    This goes back to a point I have attempted to make multiple times, that you seem determined to ignore. Russian command believes what they BELIEVE. Not what AP would like them to believe. If you propose poking the Russian bear it would be prudent to consider that they will REACT on what they BELIEVE.
    ___

    Another point I have made many times is there are often gigantic gaps between what politicians say versus their actions. Hopefully & highly likely, Macron is simply posturing for domestic and EU audiences of Sheeple. It is hard to believe he is deranged enough to void France's Article V protection by going on a futile offensive.


    How are Russia’s currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.
     
    Hydrocarbon exports to Asia are lucrative. Refineries serving the Pacific market are out of Ukrainian reach. The state of the Russian treasury is vastly better than Ukraine's.

    Russia does not have to go on forever. They simply have to outlast foreign support for Kiev aggression. Scholz and Macron, Zelensky's primary masters, are both incredibly weak. Russia rationally sees the prospective duration as months, not decades.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @sudden death

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it’s not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia), Russia has limitations that Kiev doesn’t have. Moscow boys are much less willing to fight in Ukraine, than Kiev boys are willing to fight in Ukraine. Thus, the practical discrepancy between populations is much less than the raw population differences. Russia must rely on convicts, volunteers from very poor regions willing to die for the money, etc. This number isn’t limitless. Try mass conscripting regular people from Moscow, Nizhni against their will to get their guts blown out in a field outside Kherson and see what happens.
     
    Anatoly Karlin has argued that this war is Russia's last chance to become a sovereign civilizational space, but even in the event of victory and subduing all Ukrainian resistance, Russia is still going to be a minnow relative to the US, EU, and China, both in terms of total population and in terms of elite science production.

    Frankly, Russia would be better off focusing all of its energies on developing artificial wombs and then producing them on a mass scale and using them to produce tens or even hundreds of millions of super-smart babies using the DNA of the smartest and most creative/inventive Russians (IVG can also help with this in the future).

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Sean
    @AP


    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it’s not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia)
     
    For predictions about what Russia will do, one needs to be very good at putting oneself in the shoes of Russians, who believe it or not, consider themselves to be the good guys. I think history shows that the sunk cost consideration, fallacy though it my be, is going to be a powerful deterrent over-against withdrawal from Ukraine. Pulling back to within the borders of Russia might well have been feasible or even likely if Russian losses in men to date were negligible. However, such is not the case, and the question Putin or any successor would anticipate the average Russian asking is: 'all the sacrifice of our boys has been for nothing?'


    From the standpoint of Russia, Ukraine even indirectly backed by the West is not harmless, and this war has shown just how far from being harmless a Ukraine --NATO assemblage is. Russia brought about the threat to the existence of the Russian state by attacking Ukraine? Absolutely Why did Ukraine want to join an anti Russia alliance? Surely not to provoke Russia into invading Ukraine. Both countries wanted to be more completely secure and ended bringing about what they strove to forestall. Ditto Israel, which is doing what it feels has to do, and the idea that leadership change would alter the policy is false. As Mearsheimer says there is no one among the Israeli political or military elite who thinks differently. It is like replacing Putin or Zelensky, which would not make a difference to how Russia or Ukraine acts.

    Replies: @AP

  381. @AP
    @Mikel

    Sure, you the Basque living in the USA knows more about Russia and Eastern Europe than do Russians and Eastern Europeans themselves.

    Russians viewed the 1990 collapse of the Soviet system as a geopolitical tragedy (certainly, the elite did) which was to be overcome once Russia got back on its feet. And Eastern Europeans have had centuries of experience with Russian expansionism. Both sides understood that Russia when given the chance would want to expand westward, at minimum to reabsorb Belarus and Ukraine (and maybe the Baltics, though they were viewed as fairly small and unimportant so their "independence" could be tolerated) and ideally to keep Poland, Baltics, etc. as a Russia-influenced buffer zone.

    Eastern Euros wanted to join NATO in order to preserve their independence from Russia and keep ironclad their new status as part of the West. Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower. None of these saw NATO as a springboard from which to actually invade Russia, a country capable of destroying everyone with its nukes.


    It’s the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.
     
    Russian wishes to expand preceded NATO so no "self-fulfilling prophesy." But outrageous Russian behavior (invading European countries in order to try to by force recreate a Russian or Soviet empire) may be a self-fulfilling prophecy if it provokes NATO troops or NATO missiles/planes into fighting against Russia directly.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

    Sure, you the Basque living in the USA knows more about Russia and Eastern Europe than do Russians and Eastern Europeans themselves.

    That’s a pretty unintelligent remark. Nowhere have I claimed to know more about Eastern Europe than the Eastern Europeans themselves, or anything remotely close to that.

    But regardless of how you feel about it, as a Basque-American citizen I have the right to use my brains to decide if the people who claim to represent me (on both sides of the Atlantic) have done a good job at protecting my interests and those of the people closest to me. I think that they’ve done a lousy job, both when they sent military expeditions to the Muslim world and when, at the same time, recklessly expanded NATO to the East instead of building a stability framework with the other nuclear superpower.

    The chances of a non-assimilated Ukrainian-American (your own self-description to AK) convincing me that those strategic choices were reasonable are zero, even if you hadn’t tried multiple times before. Why bother again?

    Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower.

    If that was their only innocent goal, they failed miserably. For 30 years Russia didn’t even dare recognize enclaves full of Russians as their own and even asked to be admitted into NATO. So we couldn’t resist turning the screws a little more by expanding NATO to Ukraine instead.

    Not to worry though, we can still fix this mess by sending French and Latvian troops to Ukraine…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    Nowhere have I claimed to know more about Eastern Europe than the Eastern Europeans themselves, or anything remotely close to that.
     
    It was implied when you made remarks contradicting what both Russians and their western neighbors believe and the beliefs that they each act upon. Russia's western neighbors wanted NATO for safety from Russian domination, Russia opposed NATO because it prevented Russia from interfering or invading its western neighbors. Georgia and Ukraine are what happens without NATO.

    This was not Russia getting provoked by a NATO whose purpose was the ultimately invade Russia. This was Russia getting blocked from Western adventures (and Eastern Euros getting saved from them ) by NATO membership.

    The chances of a non-assimilated Ukrainian-American (your own self-description to AK)
     
    I indeed grew up speaking the Ukrainian language and maintain my connections to my grandparents' country of birth. I am therefore not assimilated. Nor are my kids, who speak Ukrainian and Russian.

    I was also born and grew up here (in the heartland far from the coasts, moreover) and thus despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do. You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral (implied, at least, because you said everyone does it), but it's ok because the banks are supposed to catch it. And then you oppose political policies that keep our military industry strong (in communities located and employing people mostly in the American heartland), oppose a flawed immigration deal that would have at least limited the mass immigration wave until a better one could be made after the next election, etc.

    Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower.

    If that was their only innocent goal, they failed miserably
     
    Has Russia reabsorbed the Baltics and reestablished hegemony over Poland, Czechoslovakia, Romania, etc.? No?

    Looks like NATO succeeded in those places. Tens of millions of people spared all sorts of misery.

    It is in places where NATO did not go that there is mass death and destruction.

    And no, Russia is not a superpower. Would you have preferred it to have been one? Would life had been better for you with a Russian superpower plus a Chinese one?

    For 30 years Russia didn’t even dare recognize enclaves full of Russians as their own
     
    It was interfering long prior to 2022. What happened to Moldova (not in NATO)?

    even asked to be admitted into NATO.
     
    This would likely have cancelled the advantages of NATO protection for its intended victims.

    So we couldn’t resist turning the screws a little more by expanding NATO to Ukraine instead
     
    We didn't expand NATO into Ukraine, and as a result there is a war with 100,000s dead. Brilliant. Although some people within Ukraine are also to blame for that. Those same people are (sadly) the ones getting killed by the Russians the most.

    But Western timidity and fears of provoking Russia have had a very bloody and dangerous cost. The world is much more dangerous place now, than it would have been had the West given Ukraine what it needed to end the war sooner. Not only in early 2022, but years earlier. As I said a long time ago, the best way to prevent an invasion of a small country is to build up its military. It's why no one invaded North Korea despite outrageous behavior by that country (launching missiles over Japan, etc.). The Obama administration really dropped the ball. But the longer the West dithers, the worse it will be in the long run.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

  382. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    a K-selected man gets revenge on an r-selected one.
     
    Did he really? I can't quite envision an r-selected man?

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    I can’t quite envision an r-selected man?

    Picture BoJo, and you’d be on the right track.

  383. @AP
    @Beckow


    The invading army was 1/2 French, not 1/3 French

    I did the math, 255k out of 643k were French, it was 39% – I was closer…:)
     
    You didn't read further, not all of those crossed the border. And the 255k didn't include French from Belgium which was part of France under Napoleon.

    From the article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_of_the_French_invasion_of_Russia

    "After a whole day of preparation by Morand and Eblé, the invasion commenced on Midsummer, 24 June 1812 with Napoleon's army crossing the river. Half of them were foreigners"

    "Georges Lefebvre suggested that Napoleon crossed the Neman with over 600,000 soldiers, only half of whom were from France."

    "Riehn provides the following figures: 685,000 men marched into Russia in 1812, of whom around 355,000 were French; 31,000 soldiers marched out again in some sort of military formation, with perhaps another 35,000 stragglers, for a total of less than 70,000 known survivors."

    300,000 Free French troops fought against Germany

    Haha, good one…When? In May 1945?
     
    You lie as always.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Free-French

    More than 100,000 Free French troops fought in the Anglo-American campaign in Italy in 1943, and, by the time of the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944, the Free French forces had swelled to more than 300,000 regular troops. They were almost wholly American-equipped and supplied. In August 1944 the Free French 1st Army, under General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny, took part in the Allies’ invasion of southern France, driving thence northeastward into Alsace before joining in the Western Allies’ final thrust into Germany.

    On the Nazi side was not only the French SS Division and the Frenchies from Alsace-Lorraine, but a few hundred thousand Vichy soldiers, gendarmes, police,
     
    These weren't fighting the Soviets and sat in the unoccupied parts of France and colonies.

    So about 15,000 French joined the Germans in fighting against the Soviets (plus 130,000 ethnic Germans from Alsace-Lorraine) - versus about 300,000 French fighting against the Germans. Far more French fought against the Germans than fought against the Soviets.

    You keep on going back to Poland in 1920,
     
    Because it is the closest analogue to the current situation, though it is of course not a perfect match.

    The ending will be the same as always
     
    Soviet Russia was driven out of Poland in 1920-1921.

    Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Same as always?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Coconuts

    So about 15,000 French joined the Germans in fighting against the Soviets…

    Even this figure may be too high, it may be closer to 10,000 between the French Volunteer Legion and the later SS units.

    The personal in the French Volunteer Legion were not all French, it contained White Russian exiles, a portion of the recruits came from the Foreign Legion and there were around 130 Arabs from North Africa. The weirdest is the 12 black guys from the Antilles, one of these, whose name was Norbert tried to try to join the SS but was refused on racial grounds. It seems a Jewish guy from the Legion was trying to join the SS at the same time, so there must have been some Jews in it as well.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Coconuts

    Thanks, this further supports my point.

  384. A123 says: • Website
    @AP
    @Beckow


    …Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Are you suggesting they do it again? How long would we be around to enjoy the show
     

    Russia wouldn't go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn't sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.

    But all similarities are far fetched. The West has ignored the obvious Russian regional dominance. Kiev wouldn’t last a month without the Nato support.
     
    Kiev stopped the Russians with minimal Western support (Javelins were helpful but they also used a lot of native Stugnas).

    Without Western support, Kiev's conventional military would have lasted about 6 months to a year, and then there would have been guerilla war, urban combat, and terrorism. It's not easy to occupy 30 million well-armed people. It would have all been a lot bloodier.

    But of course there was zero chance of no Western support. At the very least the Poles would have donated quite a lot.


    Time is on Russia’s side
     
    So you say and wish, in your desperation.

    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it's not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia), Russia has limitations that Kiev doesn't have. Moscow boys are much less willing to fight in Ukraine, than Kiev boys are willing to fight in Ukraine. Thus, the practical discrepancy between populations is much less than the raw population differences. Russia must rely on convicts, volunteers from very poor regions willing to die for the money, etc. This number isn't limitless. Try mass conscripting regular people from Moscow, Nizhni against their will to get their guts blown out in a field outside Kherson and see what happens.

    How are Russia's currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.

    So we cannot know who has more time. But it does look like Russia's leaders are more desperate to try to end things sooner. What do they know that we don't?


    The “Free French” numbers you invented are propaganda nonsense
     
    I quoted from Britannica which last I checked is more reliable than you are, and which is probably not a pro-French propaganda outlet.

    When it mattered the Frenchies fought as volunteers with the Nazis in 1941-43
     
    15,000 made no difference. And by 1943, there were already 100,000 Free French forces fighting in Italy.

    300,000 in 1944 did make a difference. They helped liberate France and drive into western Germany.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean

    Russia wouldn’t go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn’t sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.

    You are badly misreading the mindset of the opposition. Russia believes Russian Crimea is Russia. There is no reason to believe that an attack on Russia would be allowed to stand. If France voids its Article V protection by going on offense. How would Russia respond?

    What if the Kremlin chooses to preempt with 500+ strategic thermonuclear warheads into France and their naval vessels at sea? It is the type of rational operating concept that is in a binder somewhere. The plan would be to destroy most, possibly all, of France’s nuclear arsenal on the ground/water.

    Are you 100% sure that this scenario cannot possibly happen?

    This goes back to a point I have attempted to make multiple times, that you seem determined to ignore. Russian command believes what they BELIEVE. Not what AP would like them to believe. If you propose poking the Russian bear it would be prudent to consider that they will REACT on what they BELIEVE.
    ___

    Another point I have made many times is there are often gigantic gaps between what politicians say versus their actions. Hopefully & highly likely, Macron is simply posturing for domestic and EU audiences of Sheeple. It is hard to believe he is deranged enough to void France’s Article V protection by going on a futile offensive.

    How are Russia’s currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.

    Hydrocarbon exports to Asia are lucrative. Refineries serving the Pacific market are out of Ukrainian reach. The state of the Russian treasury is vastly better than Ukraine’s.

    Russia does not have to go on forever. They simply have to outlast foreign support for Kiev aggression. Scholz and Macron, Zelensky’s primary masters, are both incredibly weak. Russia rationally sees the prospective duration as months, not decades.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    What if the Kremlin chooses to preempt with 500+ strategic thermonuclear warheads into France and their naval vessels at sea? It is the type of rational operating concept that is in a binder somewhere. The plan would be to destroy most, possibly all, of France’s nuclear arsenal on the ground/water.
     
    Your kremlin stooge fantasies are the best within this blog (no offense Beckow or Averkow). Must be due to a new supply of airplane glue that you've been using?

    https://images.cartoonstock.com/lowres_800/diy-super_glue-glue-diy-home_improvement-handy_man-sbrn34_low.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @sudden death
    @A123


    Hydrocarbon exports to Asia are lucrative. Refineries serving the Pacific market are out of Ukrainian reach.
     
    What exports - situation with refined production in RF domestic market even before recent attacks was so bad that all RF gasoline/diesel exports have banned already for six months at the start of 2024, lol

    That ban most likely will be continued even longer, so only significant export potentially increasing in this sphere is raw oil, but it will be forced measure, cause domestic refining capacities are being blown and reduced.

    Increased RF raw oil exports also means all OPEC cuts going down the drain, thus prices also going down or other members reducing production just for the sake of helping RF, which is also quite difficult knowing that Saudi economy overall contracted about 1% in 2023, but nearly 4% just in last quarter. Or RF will have to cut raw oil production, because there's overall not enough domestic free storage capabilities for usual amounts of extracted oil when refineries are being burned.

    Replies: @A123

  385. @Matra
    "Russia delenda est" says the Latvian president.

    Active personnel in the Latvian armed forces: 17k.

    https://twitter.com/phl43/status/1768873725850493109

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel, @LatW

    What’s wrong with both sides having red lines, not just RusFed?

    One of the European red lines could be that RusFed doesn’t send ridiculous ultimata (trying to meddle with our internal affairs).

  386. @songbird
    @LatW

    A number of years ago, I remember seeing a comment on an HBD blog about the footprints at White Sands, which were then attributed to an earlier wave than Amerinds (probably not the case.). And the person said something like"they were too dumb to have shoes." Which I found really laughable, as it was quite common for people to be shoeless into modern times. And I wouldn't necessarily want to walk through mud wearing shoes anyway.

    Replies: @LatW

    And I wouldn’t necessarily want to walk through mud wearing shoes anyway.

    No, there are muddy places on the ocean where if you wear boots or shoes, the sand is so delicate that you’ll just get stuck, and feel almost as if you’ve been cemented in. The only thing about walking barefoot that could be a worry is getting injured, but the paleo people had rougher soles.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    Once, I was walking over a path I had made. I had cut a tiny sapling near the ground. It was hard wood. And the little, sharp stump basically went right through the sole of my shoe. But not much into my foot thankfully.

    My father once knew a kid who grew up without wearing shoes in large part. He was in awe of his ability to walk on rocks and stones. I'd be worried about hookworms.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. Hack

  387. @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Don't want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)

    Within the West, my proposed negative filters would largely be based on the interests of Europeans. (Though I might tack a few things on, that is really the essential core.). In contrast, I have only heard him articulate a negative filter based on the interests of gays.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

    Don’t want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)

    A while ago I think BAP had a theory like this, he was arguing that one of the motivations behind the recent immigration wave was a shortage of gay-for-pay in elite urban centres.

    Mr. XYZ does have a point that, say if the all immigration from South Asia to the UK had been Indian, there would probably have been fewer social problems with it. As it is it has come from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India. This fits in with a general high level of diversity between the different sources of immigrants, not sure if this was a conscious decision to prevent any individual country becoming too important as a source of immigration, or whether it has been a random thing.

    Morgoth talked about Bald and Bankrupt and this topic in a recent video:

    [MORE]

    https://morgoth.substack.com/p/a-week-in-the-british-thug-state

    I think he is right in this one about the shift in mood, which is getting more pessimistic.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Have heard Morgoth tell that story before. It is a funny annecdote, esp. as he has such a homey, friendly accent. I think he would be a great character actor in a village setting.

    And I think it is appropriate, as a lot of politics is just cattiness, IMO. It was bizarre what celebrities were saying about Trump, when he was president. There were dozens or hundreds saying that he should be assassinated or that they would do the job themselves. Which was so weird as nothing seemed to change when he was in power. Even a lot of his rhetoric was quite woke.

    Replies: @A123

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Coconuts


    Mr. XYZ does have a point that, say if the all immigration from South Asia to the UK had been Indian, there would probably have been fewer social problems with it.
     
    Yes, that is correct. Similarly, had Western Europe sought out guest workers (who would have subsequently proceeded to stay there permanently) from India instead of from Muslim countries in the post-WWII decades, then there would have likely been less integration problems with them right now, even if they would have been working-class--at least just so far that they would not have been or become as dysfunctional as the (Indian-descended) Roma are.

    I essentially view British Indians as being a slightly duller and more leftist group than British whites, but still a group that can successfully assimilate and integrate in Britain, other than of course with them keeping their various ethnic stores/shops and ethnic cuisines, which other Brits certainly benefit from! British Indians are not as elite as Indians in the US or Canada are, but they're still pretty good, nice, and pleasant to have!

    Likely Eastern European guest workers would have been even easier to assimilate than Indian guest workers would have been, but recruiting huge numbers of them likely wasn't possible in the post-WWII decades due to the Iron Curtain.

  388. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    a K-selected man gets revenge on an r-selected one.
     
    Did he really? I can't quite envision an r-selected man?

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    Here are some pictures from the story, but I regret to say they may not show the appropriate physiognomy:
    https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php?title=The_New_Catacomb#Illustrations

    But you may want to read the story first:
    https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php?title=The_New_Catacomb#The_New_Catacomb

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  389. @LatW
    @songbird


    And I wouldn’t necessarily want to walk through mud wearing shoes anyway.
     
    No, there are muddy places on the ocean where if you wear boots or shoes, the sand is so delicate that you'll just get stuck, and feel almost as if you've been cemented in. The only thing about walking barefoot that could be a worry is getting injured, but the paleo people had rougher soles.

    Replies: @songbird

    Once, I was walking over a path I had made. I had cut a tiny sapling near the ground. It was hard wood. And the little, sharp stump basically went right through the sole of my shoe. But not much into my foot thankfully.

    My father once knew a kid who grew up without wearing shoes in large part. He was in awe of his ability to walk on rocks and stones. I’d be worried about hookworms.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird

    Today's landscape features broken glass everywhere. The water moves it about like stones. Not to mention rusty nails and staples.

    In an fairly empty part of New Zealand, Sean Astin cut his foot so badly on a piece of glass he had to be airlifted to a hospital. I will not go into water where I cannot see the bottom without foot gear.

    PEACE 😇


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4mRo96hlTZM

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Once when I was swimming on a Black Sea Beach (Sudak?) on the way out of the water I stepped on a stone. It didn't penetrate my skin, but did cause a very painful wound on the bottom of my foot. This slowed be down for about 2 weeks afterwards while it healed back to normal. Crimea is known for its rocky beaches, although I've read that there are a few beaches that are sand based.

    https://nashaplaneta.net/europe/russia/img_krim/sudak-pliaji14.jpg

    They don't display the rocky beaches in Sudak in the glossy travel photos. Not even this many beachcombers visit the beaches, like they used to before 2014. Great job Putler midget meister!

    Replies: @songbird

  390. A123 says: • Website

    Good news from France: (1)

    Shock Poll: Le Pen Party Could Gain Outright Majority
    In National Assembly if Snap Election Called in France
    ___

    In yet another demonstration of the growing popularity of the populist right in France, a survey commissioned by the centrist Les Républicains (LR) in December found that the National Rally (RN) of former presidential candidate Marine Le Pen could win between 243 and 305 seats in the National Assembly in the event snap elections were called.

    The poll of 4,000 French voters, conducted by the Ipsos Institute on a private basis, suggested that the RN would likely secure either a relative or outright majority (currently 289 seats) and therefore control the parliament, the L’Obs magazine reports. This would also represent a major jump in support compared to the 2022 legislative elections, potentially seeing the party more than triple the 89 votes it received two years ago.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/03/16/shock-poll-marine-le-pens-party-could-gain-outright-majority-in-national-assembly-if-snap-election-called-in-france/

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123

    But I thought that Anatoly Karlin said that open borders and globalist assimilation are both inevitable!

    To be fair, though, Le Pen could prove to be a disappointment in office like Meloni was in Italy.

  391. LatW says:
    @Beckow
    @LatW


    they overslept and let the whole thing drag out too long. And Macron is right when he mentions that he was the one who tried the longest to convince Putin not to do this
     
    Macron is a narcissist and a manipulator as the Frenchies tend to be. Russia cut them off and he is hysterical. Making threats - because that is what they are - without ability to carry them out is stupid and makes France weaker.

    Imagine the French army moving openly into Ukraine (Odessa) assisted by the Romanians. How many? 25k or 50k? How many would be destroyed? Would the French bring in the air force? How long before Bucarest is bombed? How would we avoid an all out war with cities all over Europe destroyed?

    My optimistic interpretation was in what Macron didn't say - in his narrowly focused threats. It sounded like a guy about to surrender who says 'but if you try to take my shoes I will bite'.


    West will be very careful to even have these kinds of negotiations, as this is essentially a partition of Ukraine against the will of the population
     
    Russia and the Russians living in Ukraine (also millions) will be even more careful. It was the West and Kiev that broke the previous treaties. All border changes are 'partitions' against the will of parts of the population. Kosovo partition was against the will of people of Serbia, Catalans in Spain, Ulster, etc...it is always like that. But the millions of Russians living in Ukraine also have rights - the ones in Donbas, Crimea, Azov coastline want to be a part of Russia. What do you propose to do about it? Expel them? Kill them? The Ukies screwed up encouraged by crazies in the West, now they are paying a very high price.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    Macron is a narcissist and a manipulator as the Frenchies tend to be.

    How is Macron a “narcissist” (more so than other pols, especially the likes of Putin & Trump… please)? He is quite charming and a very good communicator. He came out now because he’s a narcissist? Come on, what kind of an argument is that? 🙂 He’s on his second term and can be more free in his expressions, but also the security situation is objectively serious.

    I don’t see how the French are “manipulators” – they are a bit different in some ways, but the French can be trusted. Everyone has to be a bit of a manipulator in the modern world, I wish it weren’t so.

    Russia cut them off and he is hysterical.

    His effort prior to the war was commendable (even if probably futile due to not understanding the gravity of Russia’s revanchism). He spent hundreds of hours on the phone with someone who is not that respectful. And apparently the Russians cyber attacked French hospitals – that’s what he just said in the interview (I had somehow missed that). That’s very serious. Russians attack the Balts a lot, but typically governmental websites (and now the GPS), but a hospital?

    Making threats – because that is what they are –

    These are not yet threats. Listen to his language. Language was assertive, bold, new, but no threats. For a large nuclear country such as France, the language was appropriate. He did not go into detail of what the EU is planning to do, he just said we must be alert, prepared and not weak. This is good, rational language. Yes, it is unusual and new, I’m still stunned by this recent 180, first the Germans and now the French, never expected to see anything like that. But there is no need for hype or hysteria. He simply reminded everyone that France, too, is a nuclear country. And that we have to be strong – everyone already knows this, we have to be strong for the times ahead.

    Don’t know why you latch so hard on this “sending troops” comment – he simply left the question open, he didn’t say “we’re doing it”. The Russian troops are still relatively far. There are other means besides soldiers that could be employed now. Which is what they agreed on yesterday.

    without ability to carry them out is stupid and makes France weaker.

    This one I agree with. Best is not to talk before you have the means, but he simply works in the public diplomacy space so he has to prepare the public.

    Imagine the French army moving openly into Ukraine (Odessa) assisted by the Romanians. How many? 25k or 50k? How many would be destroyed?

    It’s way, way too early for this kind of a conversation, but if it were to happen, hypothetically, they would have full air support, unlike with the Ukrainian troops now (unfortunately). Besides, the Euro troops, even if they were to be sent, would mostly assist with de-mining, fixing vehicles, alleviating the Ukro troops stationed on the Belarusian border. It’s possible but there are special forces operating there already, but it’s hard to prove, so futile to make such statements. The Ukrainians have simply shown good capability.

    How long before Bucarest is bombed? How would we avoid an all out war with cities all over Europe destroyed?

    Best is to not succumb to hysteria.

    It sounded like a guy about to surrender who says ‘but if you try to take my shoes I will bite‘.

    Oh, if you try to take my damn shoes, I will bite, – that’s exactly right. Putin already laid out in his ultimatum what he wanted to take. So far, his terrible program, despite of the major setbacks, is going according to the plan (the destruction of Ukraine continues). Hence, Europe needs to strategize.

    Russia and the Russians living in Ukraine (also millions) will be even more careful.

    The situation has changed very dramatically for the Russians living in Ukraine, as many of those “Russians” (in reality, ethnically mixed folks) hate RusFed now and many have been destroyed by Putin. Russia doesn’t need to be “careful” in the sense that I suggested, because they already occupy large territories. However, things are far from over – not only they have to hold those territories now, expending significant resources, but they will soon have war on their own territory. In fact, it’s already happening as we speak. It will be a death by a thousand cuts.

    All border changes are ‘partitions’ against the will of parts of the population.

    This is not to be taken lightly, ever. In this case, it is absolutely crazy, absolutely no respect for human life and dignity – there are millions of people displaced and exiled, thousands killed, cities in complete ruins. You are trying to be nonchalant about this, as if it’s not a big deal, but the world sees everything. Many are not ok with this. Hundreds of millions probably.

    But the millions of Russians living in Ukraine also have rights – the ones in Donbas, Crimea, Azov coastline want to be a part of Russia. What do you propose to do about it?

    What to do about it in 2014 and in 2024 are two very different things. It could’ve potentially been solved with a lot of work, before, but maybe it’s not worth it. I see that with my own country now – after all the work, there are good results, but the problem is not solvable. Each nation has to have their own state, if they can’t cohabit. It’s just that it’s worse in Donbas as it was a partly mixed area and very heavily russified in the last 50 or so years. So most likely, some kind of a combination of approaches could’ve worked. This is assuming that RusFed would not interfere, but they always do (to make things worse, they deliberately meddle to shake things up and create chaos, this has been their MO since the early 90s, you can pretend all you want that it wasn’t malign but it was objectively so, they admit their intentions more openly than you do, you’re just not following their media where they talk very openly about all their neighbors).

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW

    Descriptions of people like Macron (or Trump) will always be subjective. To me he looks like a poseur and his narcissism (extreme self-regard) is quite obvious, to you that looks like strength. Fine, but a guy married to his grandma, with no kids, talking about taking back Crimea and escalating the war with Russia seems unhinged. They need to reign him in. He is not even helping the Ukie project.


    would mostly assist with de-mining, fixing vehicles, alleviating the Ukro troops stationed on the Belarusian border.
     
    Mostly? And what else would they do? In a war there are only two sides and by joining combat on the Ukie side they would be targets. Hundreds, maybe thousands, would be killed and wounded. They would be specifically targeted by Russia to cause the biggest possible blowback in Europe.

    They would make no difference to the outcome. Today's technology doesn't allow for effective air-cover. The equipment would be destroyed - it would lead to more escalation until it is too late. It is time to see what is the best deal Russia would agree to. But remember, they don't have to agree to anything because eventually they can take it all. It is an appeal to their rational self-interest to avoid problems in the long run.


    Russians living in Ukraine, as many of those “Russians” hate RusFed
     
    And many don't. We won't know the ratio until after the war - people are risk-averse and trying to survive. Taking away normal (European) rights from the Russian minority was a fatal mistake. Nato could have had Crimea and all of Ukraine on a silver platter if the nutcase Banderistas didn't go crazy, banned the Russian language, bombed the 'separatists' killing 3k civilians. It is too late now - Russia will solve it in its own way. It was very badly done and now it will change the world or possibly end it. We will see.

    Replies: @LatW

  392. A123 says: • Website
    @songbird
    @LatW

    Once, I was walking over a path I had made. I had cut a tiny sapling near the ground. It was hard wood. And the little, sharp stump basically went right through the sole of my shoe. But not much into my foot thankfully.

    My father once knew a kid who grew up without wearing shoes in large part. He was in awe of his ability to walk on rocks and stones. I'd be worried about hookworms.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. Hack

    Today’s landscape features broken glass everywhere. The water moves it about like stones. Not to mention rusty nails and staples.

    In an fairly empty part of New Zealand, Sean Astin cut his foot so badly on a piece of glass he had to be airlifted to a hospital. I will not go into water where I cannot see the bottom without foot gear.

    PEACE 😇

    • Thanks: songbird
  393. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    Don’t want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)
     
    A while ago I think BAP had a theory like this, he was arguing that one of the motivations behind the recent immigration wave was a shortage of gay-for-pay in elite urban centres.

    Mr. XYZ does have a point that, say if the all immigration from South Asia to the UK had been Indian, there would probably have been fewer social problems with it. As it is it has come from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India. This fits in with a general high level of diversity between the different sources of immigrants, not sure if this was a conscious decision to prevent any individual country becoming too important as a source of immigration, or whether it has been a random thing.

    Morgoth talked about Bald and Bankrupt and this topic in a recent video:



    https://morgoth.substack.com/p/a-week-in-the-british-thug-state

    I think he is right in this one about the shift in mood, which is getting more pessimistic.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    Have heard Morgoth tell that story before. It is a funny annecdote, esp. as he has such a homey, friendly accent. I think he would be a great character actor in a village setting.

    And I think it is appropriate, as a lot of politics is just cattiness, IMO. It was bizarre what celebrities were saying about Trump, when he was president. There were dozens or hundreds saying that he should be assassinated or that they would do the job themselves. Which was so weird as nothing seemed to change when he was in power. Even a lot of his rhetoric was quite woke.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird


    Have heard Morgoth tell that story before.
     
    Ummm.... Morgoth is the progenitor of Sauron. Is he here??? Now?!?!?

    Let me check The Book of Revelation.

    PEACE 😇

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktet64d9O-c
  394. @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Have heard Morgoth tell that story before. It is a funny annecdote, esp. as he has such a homey, friendly accent. I think he would be a great character actor in a village setting.

    And I think it is appropriate, as a lot of politics is just cattiness, IMO. It was bizarre what celebrities were saying about Trump, when he was president. There were dozens or hundreds saying that he should be assassinated or that they would do the job themselves. Which was so weird as nothing seemed to change when he was in power. Even a lot of his rhetoric was quite woke.

    Replies: @A123

    Have heard Morgoth tell that story before.

    Ummm…. Morgoth is the progenitor of Sauron. Is he here??? Now?!?!?

    Let me check The Book of Revelation.

    PEACE 😇

    • LOL: songbird
  395. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    If the Ukrainians had been given everything early on (large numbers of HIMARS, ATACMS, F-16s, etc.) this would have ended far more quickly, as did the Polish-Soviet war. But contemporary Western leaders are far more timid.

    Unless China would have massively increased its own aid to Russia in response to such Western moves
     

    Very doubtful that they would have made such a bold move so quickly.

    Also, as a side note, even if Ukraine would have reconquered the Crimean Corridor, I don’t think that it would have actually been willing to make peace in 2022 or 2023 (or likely even 2024) without a return of both Crimea and the Donbass.
     
    With massive assistance sufficient to quickly retake the Crimea corridor, Ukraine would have likely also retaken Crimea. I doubt it would have been able to take Donbas.

    This would have probably forced Russia to make reasonable demands in negotiations that Ukrainians could accept (i.e., referenda to determine Crimea and Donbas status, NATO and/or EU for the rest of Ukraine). Russia would have had more of an incentive to end the invasion.

    Western allies were too timid to provide what was necessary for a quick end to the war, so now there is a much longer and messier war with potentially more dangerous consequences for everyone.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Very doubtful that they would have made such a bold move so quickly.

    They could have tried doing it under the radar.

    With massive assistance sufficient to quickly retake the Crimea corridor, Ukraine would have likely also retaken Crimea. I doubt it would have been able to take Donbas.

    This would have probably forced Russia to make reasonable demands in negotiations that Ukrainians could accept (i.e., referenda to determine Crimea and Donbas status, NATO and/or EU for the rest of Ukraine). Russia would have had more of an incentive to end the invasion.

    Western allies were too timid to provide what was necessary for a quick end to the war, so now there is a much longer and messier war with potentially more dangerous consequences for everyone.

    Any chance of Russia placing nuclear missiles in Crimea if Ukraine would have retaken (will retake?) the Crimean Corridor?

    I think that if Ukraine would have already reconquered Crimea, giving it up even in exchange for Russian consent to Ukrainian EU and NATO membership might have proven a difficult prospect. At the very least, Ukraine might have insisted on Crimeans getting a taste of renewed Ukrainian rule for 10 or 20 years before a referendum to determine its final status will be held.

    And Yes, the US was certainly extremely concerned that Russia could use nuclear weapons in Ukraine in late 2022:

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/09/politics/us-prepared-rigorously-potential-russian-nuclear-strike-ukraine/index.html#:~:text=The%20Biden%20administration%20was%20specifically,nuclear%20weapon%2C%20the%20officials%20said.&text=The%20administration’s%20fear%2C%20a%20second,information%20that%20we%20picked%20up.%E2%80%9D

    Maybe their fears were excessive, but in their defense, they likely believed that preserving 90% (80% if using 2013 borders) of Ukraine as free and independent was more important than taking big risks. Maybe their calculations in regards to this were wrong, but they did prefer to have most of what they wanted than to risk a catastrophic scenario, even if the odds of this would have been very small. (To be fair, I do think that the USSR would have been willing to use the nuclear missiles that it had in Cuba had the US invaded Cuba in 1962 and not immediately destroyed all of the Soviet nuclear missiles and/or missile launchers. Maybe I would have been wrong about this, but still, this isn’t actually a risk that I would have wanted to take.)

  396. @A123
    Good news from France: (1)

    Shock Poll: Le Pen Party Could Gain Outright Majority
    In National Assembly if Snap Election Called in France
    ___

    In yet another demonstration of the growing popularity of the populist right in France, a survey commissioned by the centrist Les Républicains (LR) in December found that the National Rally (RN) of former presidential candidate Marine Le Pen could win between 243 and 305 seats in the National Assembly in the event snap elections were called.

    The poll of 4,000 French voters, conducted by the Ipsos Institute on a private basis, suggested that the RN would likely secure either a relative or outright majority (currently 289 seats) and therefore control the parliament, the L’Obs magazine reports. This would also represent a major jump in support compared to the 2022 legislative elections, potentially seeing the party more than triple the 89 votes it received two years ago.
     
    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/03/16/shock-poll-marine-le-pens-party-could-gain-outright-majority-in-national-assembly-if-snap-election-called-in-france/

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    But I thought that Anatoly Karlin said that open borders and globalist assimilation are both inevitable!

    To be fair, though, Le Pen could prove to be a disappointment in office like Meloni was in Italy.

  397. @songbird
    @LatW

    Once, I was walking over a path I had made. I had cut a tiny sapling near the ground. It was hard wood. And the little, sharp stump basically went right through the sole of my shoe. But not much into my foot thankfully.

    My father once knew a kid who grew up without wearing shoes in large part. He was in awe of his ability to walk on rocks and stones. I'd be worried about hookworms.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. Hack

    Once when I was swimming on a Black Sea Beach (Sudak?) on the way out of the water I stepped on a stone. It didn’t penetrate my skin, but did cause a very painful wound on the bottom of my foot. This slowed be down for about 2 weeks afterwards while it healed back to normal. Crimea is known for its rocky beaches, although I’ve read that there are a few beaches that are sand based.

    They don’t display the rocky beaches in Sudak in the glossy travel photos. Not even this many beachcombers visit the beaches, like they used to before 2014. Great job Putler midget meister!

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    I stepped on a rock about three years ago, and I got a bruise on the bottom of my foot. It didn't really hurt too bad or for too long (just the initial contact), but the discoloration was there for months.

    Similarly, I dropped something on my big toe last year. Very heavy, lucky I didn't break it. But even about maybe 10 months later, a bit of the bruise (really just black color) still remains under the nail. It has been working its way out. Where before it was working its way in.

    Be careful anytime you are near train tracks. Those rocks are engineered a certain way. If you trip, they can go into you and split your skin three ways.

    Have been to rock beaches before, in Ireland but the water was too cold for me to evaluate whether I could tolerate them or not.

  398. So was The Silmarillion movie / series ever finished? Did they mess it up (with DEI)?

    • Replies: @A123
    @LatW


    So was The Silmarillion movie / series ever finished? Did they mess it up (with DEI)?
     
    The Silmarillion is a collection of tales scattered over thousands of years. Various efforts have looked at specific stories within the volume.

    An animated work The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim (1) may release this year. The director is known for Japanese anime.

    Amazon's Rings of Power dabbled in the time frame, but does not have the rights to The Silmarillion. The lore divergence between the two is epic. Season 1 was a horrifying DEI mess, and season 2 sounds worse.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/

    Replies: @songbird

  399. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    Don’t want to mischaracterize Mr. XYZ, but I wonder if his views on immigration policy could be based on the maximization of gay interests. (Am not joking.)
     
    A while ago I think BAP had a theory like this, he was arguing that one of the motivations behind the recent immigration wave was a shortage of gay-for-pay in elite urban centres.

    Mr. XYZ does have a point that, say if the all immigration from South Asia to the UK had been Indian, there would probably have been fewer social problems with it. As it is it has come from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India. This fits in with a general high level of diversity between the different sources of immigrants, not sure if this was a conscious decision to prevent any individual country becoming too important as a source of immigration, or whether it has been a random thing.

    Morgoth talked about Bald and Bankrupt and this topic in a recent video:



    https://morgoth.substack.com/p/a-week-in-the-british-thug-state

    I think he is right in this one about the shift in mood, which is getting more pessimistic.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    Mr. XYZ does have a point that, say if the all immigration from South Asia to the UK had been Indian, there would probably have been fewer social problems with it.

    Yes, that is correct. Similarly, had Western Europe sought out guest workers (who would have subsequently proceeded to stay there permanently) from India instead of from Muslim countries in the post-WWII decades, then there would have likely been less integration problems with them right now, even if they would have been working-class–at least just so far that they would not have been or become as dysfunctional as the (Indian-descended) Roma are.

    I essentially view British Indians as being a slightly duller and more leftist group than British whites, but still a group that can successfully assimilate and integrate in Britain, other than of course with them keeping their various ethnic stores/shops and ethnic cuisines, which other Brits certainly benefit from! British Indians are not as elite as Indians in the US or Canada are, but they’re still pretty good, nice, and pleasant to have!

    Likely Eastern European guest workers would have been even easier to assimilate than Indian guest workers would have been, but recruiting huge numbers of them likely wasn’t possible in the post-WWII decades due to the Iron Curtain.

  400. @Coconuts
    @AP


    So about 15,000 French joined the Germans in fighting against the Soviets...
     
    Even this figure may be too high, it may be closer to 10,000 between the French Volunteer Legion and the later SS units.

    The personal in the French Volunteer Legion were not all French, it contained White Russian exiles, a portion of the recruits came from the Foreign Legion and there were around 130 Arabs from North Africa. The weirdest is the 12 black guys from the Antilles, one of these, whose name was Norbert tried to try to join the SS but was refused on racial grounds. It seems a Jewish guy from the Legion was trying to join the SS at the same time, so there must have been some Jews in it as well.

    Replies: @AP

    Thanks, this further supports my point.

  401. @LatW
    @Beckow


    Macron is a narcissist and a manipulator as the Frenchies tend to be.
     
    How is Macron a "narcissist" (more so than other pols, especially the likes of Putin & Trump... please)? He is quite charming and a very good communicator. He came out now because he's a narcissist? Come on, what kind of an argument is that? :) He's on his second term and can be more free in his expressions, but also the security situation is objectively serious.

    I don't see how the French are "manipulators" - they are a bit different in some ways, but the French can be trusted. Everyone has to be a bit of a manipulator in the modern world, I wish it weren't so.

    Russia cut them off and he is hysterical.
     
    His effort prior to the war was commendable (even if probably futile due to not understanding the gravity of Russia's revanchism). He spent hundreds of hours on the phone with someone who is not that respectful. And apparently the Russians cyber attacked French hospitals - that's what he just said in the interview (I had somehow missed that). That's very serious. Russians attack the Balts a lot, but typically governmental websites (and now the GPS), but a hospital?

    Making threats – because that is what they are –
     
    These are not yet threats. Listen to his language. Language was assertive, bold, new, but no threats. For a large nuclear country such as France, the language was appropriate. He did not go into detail of what the EU is planning to do, he just said we must be alert, prepared and not weak. This is good, rational language. Yes, it is unusual and new, I'm still stunned by this recent 180, first the Germans and now the French, never expected to see anything like that. But there is no need for hype or hysteria. He simply reminded everyone that France, too, is a nuclear country. And that we have to be strong - everyone already knows this, we have to be strong for the times ahead.

    Don't know why you latch so hard on this "sending troops" comment - he simply left the question open, he didn't say "we're doing it". The Russian troops are still relatively far. There are other means besides soldiers that could be employed now. Which is what they agreed on yesterday.

    without ability to carry them out is stupid and makes France weaker.
     
    This one I agree with. Best is not to talk before you have the means, but he simply works in the public diplomacy space so he has to prepare the public.

    Imagine the French army moving openly into Ukraine (Odessa) assisted by the Romanians. How many? 25k or 50k? How many would be destroyed?
     
    It's way, way too early for this kind of a conversation, but if it were to happen, hypothetically, they would have full air support, unlike with the Ukrainian troops now (unfortunately). Besides, the Euro troops, even if they were to be sent, would mostly assist with de-mining, fixing vehicles, alleviating the Ukro troops stationed on the Belarusian border. It's possible but there are special forces operating there already, but it's hard to prove, so futile to make such statements. The Ukrainians have simply shown good capability.

    How long before Bucarest is bombed? How would we avoid an all out war with cities all over Europe destroyed?
     
    Best is to not succumb to hysteria.


    It sounded like a guy about to surrender who says 'but if you try to take my shoes I will bite‘.
     
    Oh, if you try to take my damn shoes, I will bite, - that's exactly right. Putin already laid out in his ultimatum what he wanted to take. So far, his terrible program, despite of the major setbacks, is going according to the plan (the destruction of Ukraine continues). Hence, Europe needs to strategize.

    Russia and the Russians living in Ukraine (also millions) will be even more careful.
     
    The situation has changed very dramatically for the Russians living in Ukraine, as many of those "Russians" (in reality, ethnically mixed folks) hate RusFed now and many have been destroyed by Putin. Russia doesn't need to be "careful" in the sense that I suggested, because they already occupy large territories. However, things are far from over - not only they have to hold those territories now, expending significant resources, but they will soon have war on their own territory. In fact, it's already happening as we speak. It will be a death by a thousand cuts.

    All border changes are ‘partitions’ against the will of parts of the population.
     
    This is not to be taken lightly, ever. In this case, it is absolutely crazy, absolutely no respect for human life and dignity - there are millions of people displaced and exiled, thousands killed, cities in complete ruins. You are trying to be nonchalant about this, as if it's not a big deal, but the world sees everything. Many are not ok with this. Hundreds of millions probably.

    But the millions of Russians living in Ukraine also have rights – the ones in Donbas, Crimea, Azov coastline want to be a part of Russia. What do you propose to do about it?
     
    What to do about it in 2014 and in 2024 are two very different things. It could've potentially been solved with a lot of work, before, but maybe it's not worth it. I see that with my own country now - after all the work, there are good results, but the problem is not solvable. Each nation has to have their own state, if they can't cohabit. It's just that it's worse in Donbas as it was a partly mixed area and very heavily russified in the last 50 or so years. So most likely, some kind of a combination of approaches could've worked. This is assuming that RusFed would not interfere, but they always do (to make things worse, they deliberately meddle to shake things up and create chaos, this has been their MO since the early 90s, you can pretend all you want that it wasn't malign but it was objectively so, they admit their intentions more openly than you do, you're just not following their media where they talk very openly about all their neighbors).

    Replies: @Beckow

    Descriptions of people like Macron (or Trump) will always be subjective. To me he looks like a poseur and his narcissism (extreme self-regard) is quite obvious, to you that looks like strength. Fine, but a guy married to his grandma, with no kids, talking about taking back Crimea and escalating the war with Russia seems unhinged. They need to reign him in. He is not even helping the Ukie project.

    would mostly assist with de-mining, fixing vehicles, alleviating the Ukro troops stationed on the Belarusian border.

    Mostly? And what else would they do? In a war there are only two sides and by joining combat on the Ukie side they would be targets. Hundreds, maybe thousands, would be killed and wounded. They would be specifically targeted by Russia to cause the biggest possible blowback in Europe.

    They would make no difference to the outcome. Today’s technology doesn’t allow for effective air-cover. The equipment would be destroyed – it would lead to more escalation until it is too late. It is time to see what is the best deal Russia would agree to. But remember, they don’t have to agree to anything because eventually they can take it all. It is an appeal to their rational self-interest to avoid problems in the long run.

    Russians living in Ukraine, as many of those “Russians” hate RusFed

    And many don’t. We won’t know the ratio until after the war – people are risk-averse and trying to survive. Taking away normal (European) rights from the Russian minority was a fatal mistake. Nato could have had Crimea and all of Ukraine on a silver platter if the nutcase Banderistas didn’t go crazy, banned the Russian language, bombed the ‘separatists’ killing 3k civilians. It is too late now – Russia will solve it in its own way. It was very badly done and now it will change the world or possibly end it. We will see.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    Descriptions of people like Macron (or Trump) will always be subjective.
     
    Yes and no, people do have some stable, recognizable traits and some traits are universally likable. But you're right that we are subjective, nevertheless.

    To me he looks like a poseur and his narcissism (extreme self-regard) is quite obvious, to you that looks like strength.
     
    That's not what I was alluding to (even though some assertiveness and self-confidence is good for a leader of a large country, granted, humility can be charming as well). No, what I meant was his demeanor - I was watching the visit to Bucha where he and other Euro leaders visited, and when it zoomed closer, you can see that he has a rather charming demeanor - everyone was super serious and gloomy but he was a bit more light hearted (not in the bad sense that he was light hearted about Bucha ofc but just more vigorous looking) Yes, maybe he tries to dominate that way, but it's refreshing.

    You just don't like what he just said, when he said that "NATO is braindead", you probably agreed.


    Mostly? And what else would they do? In a war there are only two sides and by joining combat on the Ukie side they would be targets.
     
    This is not the right moment to discuss this, too hypothetical. There already exists a combat capable European army - the Ukrainian one. They should first focus on their needs and supply them adequately before discussing any Euro troops. Nobody is discussing that - Macron said "it is not excluded", he didn't say "I'm sending my troops" (there is another quote about Odessa, that was mentioned informally, but I have to find it now - either way, no need to rush events right now).

    Replies: @Beckow

  402. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Once when I was swimming on a Black Sea Beach (Sudak?) on the way out of the water I stepped on a stone. It didn't penetrate my skin, but did cause a very painful wound on the bottom of my foot. This slowed be down for about 2 weeks afterwards while it healed back to normal. Crimea is known for its rocky beaches, although I've read that there are a few beaches that are sand based.

    https://nashaplaneta.net/europe/russia/img_krim/sudak-pliaji14.jpg

    They don't display the rocky beaches in Sudak in the glossy travel photos. Not even this many beachcombers visit the beaches, like they used to before 2014. Great job Putler midget meister!

    Replies: @songbird

    I stepped on a rock about three years ago, and I got a bruise on the bottom of my foot. It didn’t really hurt too bad or for too long (just the initial contact), but the discoloration was there for months.

    Similarly, I dropped something on my big toe last year. Very heavy, lucky I didn’t break it. But even about maybe 10 months later, a bit of the bruise (really just black color) still remains under the nail. It has been working its way out. Where before it was working its way in.

    Be careful anytime you are near train tracks. Those rocks are engineered a certain way. If you trip, they can go into you and split your skin three ways.

    Have been to rock beaches before, in Ireland but the water was too cold for me to evaluate whether I could tolerate them or not.

  403. @A123
    @AP


    Russia wouldn’t go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn’t sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.
     
    You are badly misreading the mindset of the opposition. Russia believes Russian Crimea is Russia. There is no reason to believe that an attack on Russia would be allowed to stand. If France voids its Article V protection by going on offense. How would Russia respond?

    What if the Kremlin chooses to preempt with 500+ strategic thermonuclear warheads into France and their naval vessels at sea? It is the type of rational operating concept that is in a binder somewhere. The plan would be to destroy most, possibly all, of France's nuclear arsenal on the ground/water.

    Are you 100% sure that this scenario cannot possibly happen?

    This goes back to a point I have attempted to make multiple times, that you seem determined to ignore. Russian command believes what they BELIEVE. Not what AP would like them to believe. If you propose poking the Russian bear it would be prudent to consider that they will REACT on what they BELIEVE.
    ___

    Another point I have made many times is there are often gigantic gaps between what politicians say versus their actions. Hopefully & highly likely, Macron is simply posturing for domestic and EU audiences of Sheeple. It is hard to believe he is deranged enough to void France's Article V protection by going on a futile offensive.


    How are Russia’s currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.
     
    Hydrocarbon exports to Asia are lucrative. Refineries serving the Pacific market are out of Ukrainian reach. The state of the Russian treasury is vastly better than Ukraine's.

    Russia does not have to go on forever. They simply have to outlast foreign support for Kiev aggression. Scholz and Macron, Zelensky's primary masters, are both incredibly weak. Russia rationally sees the prospective duration as months, not decades.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @sudden death

    What if the Kremlin chooses to preempt with 500+ strategic thermonuclear warheads into France and their naval vessels at sea? It is the type of rational operating concept that is in a binder somewhere. The plan would be to destroy most, possibly all, of France’s nuclear arsenal on the ground/water.

    Your kremlin stooge fantasies are the best within this blog (no offense Beckow or Averkow). Must be due to a new supply of airplane glue that you’ve been using?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    Any special plans to celebrate St. Pat's Day celebrations tomorrow? My favorite pub in Phoenix Land:

    Seamus McCaffrey's
    https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/qVZmnHStWp51mm0ph4Y-Bw/o.jpg

    Real good Irish faire, live music and the best imported fermented Apple Cider this side of the Mississippi!

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

  404. AP says:
    @Mikel
    @AP


    Sure, you the Basque living in the USA knows more about Russia and Eastern Europe than do Russians and Eastern Europeans themselves.
     
    That's a pretty unintelligent remark. Nowhere have I claimed to know more about Eastern Europe than the Eastern Europeans themselves, or anything remotely close to that.

    But regardless of how you feel about it, as a Basque-American citizen I have the right to use my brains to decide if the people who claim to represent me (on both sides of the Atlantic) have done a good job at protecting my interests and those of the people closest to me. I think that they've done a lousy job, both when they sent military expeditions to the Muslim world and when, at the same time, recklessly expanded NATO to the East instead of building a stability framework with the other nuclear superpower.

    The chances of a non-assimilated Ukrainian-American (your own self-description to AK) convincing me that those strategic choices were reasonable are zero, even if you hadn't tried multiple times before. Why bother again?

    Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower.
     
    If that was their only innocent goal, they failed miserably. For 30 years Russia didn't even dare recognize enclaves full of Russians as their own and even asked to be admitted into NATO. So we couldn't resist turning the screws a little more by expanding NATO to Ukraine instead.

    Not to worry though, we can still fix this mess by sending French and Latvian troops to Ukraine...

    Replies: @AP

    Nowhere have I claimed to know more about Eastern Europe than the Eastern Europeans themselves, or anything remotely close to that.

    It was implied when you made remarks contradicting what both Russians and their western neighbors believe and the beliefs that they each act upon. Russia’s western neighbors wanted NATO for safety from Russian domination, Russia opposed NATO because it prevented Russia from interfering or invading its western neighbors. Georgia and Ukraine are what happens without NATO.

    This was not Russia getting provoked by a NATO whose purpose was the ultimately invade Russia. This was Russia getting blocked from Western adventures (and Eastern Euros getting saved from them ) by NATO membership.

    The chances of a non-assimilated Ukrainian-American (your own self-description to AK)

    I indeed grew up speaking the Ukrainian language and maintain my connections to my grandparents’ country of birth. I am therefore not assimilated. Nor are my kids, who speak Ukrainian and Russian.

    I was also born and grew up here (in the heartland far from the coasts, moreover) and thus despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do. You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral (implied, at least, because you said everyone does it), but it’s ok because the banks are supposed to catch it. And then you oppose political policies that keep our military industry strong (in communities located and employing people mostly in the American heartland), oppose a flawed immigration deal that would have at least limited the mass immigration wave until a better one could be made after the next election, etc.

    Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower.

    If that was their only innocent goal, they failed miserably

    Has Russia reabsorbed the Baltics and reestablished hegemony over Poland, Czechoslovakia, Romania, etc.? No?

    Looks like NATO succeeded in those places. Tens of millions of people spared all sorts of misery.

    It is in places where NATO did not go that there is mass death and destruction.

    And no, Russia is not a superpower. Would you have preferred it to have been one? Would life had been better for you with a Russian superpower plus a Chinese one?

    For 30 years Russia didn’t even dare recognize enclaves full of Russians as their own

    It was interfering long prior to 2022. What happened to Moldova (not in NATO)?

    even asked to be admitted into NATO.

    This would likely have cancelled the advantages of NATO protection for its intended victims.

    So we couldn’t resist turning the screws a little more by expanding NATO to Ukraine instead

    We didn’t expand NATO into Ukraine, and as a result there is a war with 100,000s dead. Brilliant. Although some people within Ukraine are also to blame for that. Those same people are (sadly) the ones getting killed by the Russians the most.

    But Western timidity and fears of provoking Russia have had a very bloody and dangerous cost. The world is much more dangerous place now, than it would have been had the West given Ukraine what it needed to end the war sooner. Not only in early 2022, but years earlier. As I said a long time ago, the best way to prevent an invasion of a small country is to build up its military. It’s why no one invaded North Korea despite outrageous behavior by that country (launching missiles over Japan, etc.). The Obama administration really dropped the ball. But the longer the West dithers, the worse it will be in the long run.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral
     
    I have never done that. Are you unable to build arguments without making moronic claims?

    despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do
     
    You've just lived longer in the US, that's all. But you have confessed that you're going to vote for Biden, an unhinged libtard who has opened the US borders and caused the largest influx of illegal immigrants in US history, just because you trust him more than his opponent to support the foreign country that you really care about. You prefer the US to continue receiving millions of uneducated, unvetted immigrants from the 3rd World each year rather than running the risk of a foreign country not receiving enough weapons paid for by US taxpayers. Your allegiance to the country of your ancestors is orders of magnitude greater than mine.

    Things are bad enough in this blog anyway. Arguing about who has a "stronger connection" to the US is a retarded way of spending one's time. If you object to my taking part in civic duties in the US send an email to utgop.org. Good luck.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    I indeed grew up speaking the Ukrainian language and maintain my connections to my grandparents’ country of birth. I am therefore not assimilated. Nor are my kids, who speak Ukrainian and Russian.

     

    You are partially assimilated. Not non-assimilated.

    This would likely have cancelled the advantages of NATO protection for its intended victims.

     

    Interesting that Russia either wanted itself in NATO or both itself and its neighbors outside of NATO. A cynic could argue that Russia wanted to keep the option of bullying its neighbors open either way.

    Off-topic, but if Russia would have become a real, progressive democracy rather than what it has now and successfully sought to join both the EU and NATO, or at least the EU, do you think that a EU with Russia as a member would be able to effectively compete against the US in a friendly manner?

    Replies: @Sher Singh

  405. @Beckow
    @LatW

    Descriptions of people like Macron (or Trump) will always be subjective. To me he looks like a poseur and his narcissism (extreme self-regard) is quite obvious, to you that looks like strength. Fine, but a guy married to his grandma, with no kids, talking about taking back Crimea and escalating the war with Russia seems unhinged. They need to reign him in. He is not even helping the Ukie project.


    would mostly assist with de-mining, fixing vehicles, alleviating the Ukro troops stationed on the Belarusian border.
     
    Mostly? And what else would they do? In a war there are only two sides and by joining combat on the Ukie side they would be targets. Hundreds, maybe thousands, would be killed and wounded. They would be specifically targeted by Russia to cause the biggest possible blowback in Europe.

    They would make no difference to the outcome. Today's technology doesn't allow for effective air-cover. The equipment would be destroyed - it would lead to more escalation until it is too late. It is time to see what is the best deal Russia would agree to. But remember, they don't have to agree to anything because eventually they can take it all. It is an appeal to their rational self-interest to avoid problems in the long run.


    Russians living in Ukraine, as many of those “Russians” hate RusFed
     
    And many don't. We won't know the ratio until after the war - people are risk-averse and trying to survive. Taking away normal (European) rights from the Russian minority was a fatal mistake. Nato could have had Crimea and all of Ukraine on a silver platter if the nutcase Banderistas didn't go crazy, banned the Russian language, bombed the 'separatists' killing 3k civilians. It is too late now - Russia will solve it in its own way. It was very badly done and now it will change the world or possibly end it. We will see.

    Replies: @LatW

    Descriptions of people like Macron (or Trump) will always be subjective.

    Yes and no, people do have some stable, recognizable traits and some traits are universally likable. But you’re right that we are subjective, nevertheless.

    To me he looks like a poseur and his narcissism (extreme self-regard) is quite obvious, to you that looks like strength.

    That’s not what I was alluding to (even though some assertiveness and self-confidence is good for a leader of a large country, granted, humility can be charming as well). No, what I meant was his demeanor – I was watching the visit to Bucha where he and other Euro leaders visited, and when it zoomed closer, you can see that he has a rather charming demeanor – everyone was super serious and gloomy but he was a bit more light hearted (not in the bad sense that he was light hearted about Bucha ofc but just more vigorous looking) Yes, maybe he tries to dominate that way, but it’s refreshing.

    You just don’t like what he just said, when he said that “NATO is braindead”, you probably agreed.

    Mostly? And what else would they do? In a war there are only two sides and by joining combat on the Ukie side they would be targets.

    This is not the right moment to discuss this, too hypothetical. There already exists a combat capable European army – the Ukrainian one. They should first focus on their needs and supply them adequately before discussing any Euro troops. Nobody is discussing that – Macron said “it is not excluded”, he didn’t say “I’m sending my troops” (there is another quote about Odessa, that was mentioned informally, but I have to find it now – either way, no need to rush events right now).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...when he said that “NATO is braindead”, you probably agreed.
     
    Most Western-run institutions are brain-dead: Nato, EU, UN, World Bank, WHO, WTO...they have lost sense of purpose, they are large bureacracies focused on the well-being of people who live of their grifting budgets. Aging institutions in a terminal state - similar to Catholic Church, commies in the 1980's, Hollywood or news 'media' today'...

    The brain-deadness is so obvious that Macron - who has a quick tongue - couldn't resist. He is clever but has no idea what to do. He is a talker.


    This is not the right moment to discuss this, too hypothetical. There already exists a combat capable European army – the Ukrainian one.
     
    Armies exist until they don't. At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year - it has no way to revitalize itself, not enough men are reaching the draft age. Hypothetical Euro armies are a chimera, we better hope there will never be the right moment to discuss them.

    Replies: @LatW

  406. A123 says: • Website
    @LatW
    So was The Silmarillion movie / series ever finished? Did they mess it up (with DEI)?

    Replies: @A123

    So was The Silmarillion movie / series ever finished? Did they mess it up (with DEI)?

    The Silmarillion is a collection of tales scattered over thousands of years. Various efforts have looked at specific stories within the volume.

    An animated work The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim (1) may release this year. The director is known for Japanese anime.

    Amazon’s Rings of Power dabbled in the time frame, but does not have the rights to The Silmarillion. The lore divergence between the two is epic. Season 1 was a horrifying DEI mess, and season 2 sounds worse.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123

    Recall reading about that. I know it is animated and the animation is not DIE, but I don't think it is a coincidence that they cast a guy named Laurence Ubong Williams to voice the heir to the throne of Rohirrim.

    Will sound like a hipster when I say this, but I tend not to enjoy anime that is in some way drawn or directed by the Japanese but written by Hollywood. IMO, it is often missing the different elements which sometimes can make anime interesting - the Japanese stamp, which extends to more than just the visuals.

    BTW, heard in the new Dune they made the sun of the Harkonnen's homeworld black or something.

  407. @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    What if the Kremlin chooses to preempt with 500+ strategic thermonuclear warheads into France and their naval vessels at sea? It is the type of rational operating concept that is in a binder somewhere. The plan would be to destroy most, possibly all, of France’s nuclear arsenal on the ground/water.
     
    Your kremlin stooge fantasies are the best within this blog (no offense Beckow or Averkow). Must be due to a new supply of airplane glue that you've been using?

    https://images.cartoonstock.com/lowres_800/diy-super_glue-glue-diy-home_improvement-handy_man-sbrn34_low.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Any special plans to celebrate St. Pat’s Day celebrations tomorrow? My favorite pub in Phoenix Land:

    Seamus McCaffrey’s
    Real good Irish faire, live music and the best imported fermented Apple Cider this side of the Mississippi!

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Family get together and corned beef and cabbage.

    I remember one year I made it, then was invited to dinner where someone else had it, and then had a different person give me Tupperware with it. I was starting to get very sick of it, and then I discovered that it made a very good sandwich,(I had never eaten it that way, other than as a coldcut) and started making sandwiches with it until I had successfully rid myself of the rest of it, which took a few days.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Nothing like a party where everybody is there to get drunk.

    When you are eighteen years old.

    I have written this before but I will repeat the formula for highest probability of having a wild crazy party.

    1. Everybody gets there at close to same time. A Super Bowl kickoff at 6:30 P. M. eastern standard time ideally fills this criterion.

    2. Large quantities of hard liquor.

    The reason the first step is critical is you went everybody getting to around the same level of drunk at around the same time. If half the people are past peak drunk and the other half aren't there yet it doesn't work the same.

    Also the success of your party is measured by the number of cars the cops send when it has to be shut down. I have never gone over three but a friend of mine once had a five. It was so much fun hardly anybody remembered what a great time they had.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  408. @AP
    @Mikel

    Sure, you the Basque living in the USA knows more about Russia and Eastern Europe than do Russians and Eastern Europeans themselves.

    Russians viewed the 1990 collapse of the Soviet system as a geopolitical tragedy (certainly, the elite did) which was to be overcome once Russia got back on its feet. And Eastern Europeans have had centuries of experience with Russian expansionism. Both sides understood that Russia when given the chance would want to expand westward, at minimum to reabsorb Belarus and Ukraine (and maybe the Baltics, though they were viewed as fairly small and unimportant so their "independence" could be tolerated) and ideally to keep Poland, Baltics, etc. as a Russia-influenced buffer zone.

    Eastern Euros wanted to join NATO in order to preserve their independence from Russia and keep ironclad their new status as part of the West. Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower. None of these saw NATO as a springboard from which to actually invade Russia, a country capable of destroying everyone with its nukes.


    It’s the Western leaders that thought that expanding NATO all around Russia was a good idea who must have feared the Russians. Why else would anyone try to surround a country militarily? But that fear turned a country that was willing to become a member of NATO itself or help the Americans in Afghanistan into the invader of neighbors that it now is. A case of geopolitical self-fulfilling prophecy like seldom must have happened in history.
     
    Russian wishes to expand preceded NATO so no "self-fulfilling prophesy." But outrageous Russian behavior (invading European countries in order to try to by force recreate a Russian or Soviet empire) may be a self-fulfilling prophecy if it provokes NATO troops or NATO missiles/planes into fighting against Russia directly.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

    Eastern Euros wanted to join NATO in order to preserve their independence from Russia and keep ironclad their new status as part of the West. Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower. None of these saw NATO as a springboard from which to actually invade Russia, a country capable of destroying everyone with its nukes.

    Philippe Lemoine argued that Russia feared escalation dominance and the risk of an accidental war with NATO if NATO moved up to Russia’s borders in more and more places. The escalation dominance I would presume would work like this: NATO could place missiles (perhaps even nuclear ones) near Russia’s borders and then extract concessions from Russia in exchange for removing these missiles. The accidental war risk could be due to a computer malfunction or something that falsely tells Russians or Westerners that a mass missile and/or nuclear strike from the other side against their own side is rapidly occurring and that they need to respond quickly. Something of this sort almost happened back in 1983:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

    Of course, one could question the wisdom of Russian actions in the neighborhood as increasing Western hostility and paranoia towards Russia and thus increasing rather than decreasing the risk of an accidental NATO-Russia war.

    Russian wishes to expand preceded NATO so no “self-fulfilling prophesy.” But outrageous Russian behavior (invading European countries in order to try to by force recreate a Russian or Soviet empire) may be a self-fulfilling prophecy if it provokes NATO troops or NATO missiles/planes into fighting against Russia directly.

    Interestingly enough, almost a century ago, Kalergi argued (starting from page 54 here) that Russia is a huge security threat for Europe which Europe can only overcome by uniting:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Pan_Europe/xUdLAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=white

    He argued that Russia is less likely to attack any European country if it will mean a war between Russia and all of Europe in response to such a Russian move.

  409. @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    Any special plans to celebrate St. Pat's Day celebrations tomorrow? My favorite pub in Phoenix Land:

    Seamus McCaffrey's
    https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/qVZmnHStWp51mm0ph4Y-Bw/o.jpg

    Real good Irish faire, live music and the best imported fermented Apple Cider this side of the Mississippi!

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Family get together and corned beef and cabbage.

    I remember one year I made it, then was invited to dinner where someone else had it, and then had a different person give me Tupperware with it. I was starting to get very sick of it, and then I discovered that it made a very good sandwich,(I had never eaten it that way, other than as a coldcut) and started making sandwiches with it until I had successfully rid myself of the rest of it, which took a few days.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    There are actually a lot of" "Irish Pubs" located in Phoenix, and at least two closer to my home than Seamus McCaffrey’s, but McCaffrey's is the best in the area, IMHO. Maybe it's the live Irish music that sets it apart, but the food and drink are all top notch.

    https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e0298e710c2fa989&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS863US863&q=map+of+irish+pubs+in+phoenix&npsic=0&rflfq=1&rldoc=1&rllag=33530838,-112066274,10905&tbm=lcl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi40Mnf5PmEAxXZLkQIHT_HBwsQtgN6BAgREAE

    If you ever visit Phoenix, let me know and we can meet up McCaffreys, I think that we'd have a great time and a great meal!

  410. @AP
    @Mikel


    Nowhere have I claimed to know more about Eastern Europe than the Eastern Europeans themselves, or anything remotely close to that.
     
    It was implied when you made remarks contradicting what both Russians and their western neighbors believe and the beliefs that they each act upon. Russia's western neighbors wanted NATO for safety from Russian domination, Russia opposed NATO because it prevented Russia from interfering or invading its western neighbors. Georgia and Ukraine are what happens without NATO.

    This was not Russia getting provoked by a NATO whose purpose was the ultimately invade Russia. This was Russia getting blocked from Western adventures (and Eastern Euros getting saved from them ) by NATO membership.

    The chances of a non-assimilated Ukrainian-American (your own self-description to AK)
     
    I indeed grew up speaking the Ukrainian language and maintain my connections to my grandparents' country of birth. I am therefore not assimilated. Nor are my kids, who speak Ukrainian and Russian.

    I was also born and grew up here (in the heartland far from the coasts, moreover) and thus despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do. You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral (implied, at least, because you said everyone does it), but it's ok because the banks are supposed to catch it. And then you oppose political policies that keep our military industry strong (in communities located and employing people mostly in the American heartland), oppose a flawed immigration deal that would have at least limited the mass immigration wave until a better one could be made after the next election, etc.

    Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower.

    If that was their only innocent goal, they failed miserably
     
    Has Russia reabsorbed the Baltics and reestablished hegemony over Poland, Czechoslovakia, Romania, etc.? No?

    Looks like NATO succeeded in those places. Tens of millions of people spared all sorts of misery.

    It is in places where NATO did not go that there is mass death and destruction.

    And no, Russia is not a superpower. Would you have preferred it to have been one? Would life had been better for you with a Russian superpower plus a Chinese one?

    For 30 years Russia didn’t even dare recognize enclaves full of Russians as their own
     
    It was interfering long prior to 2022. What happened to Moldova (not in NATO)?

    even asked to be admitted into NATO.
     
    This would likely have cancelled the advantages of NATO protection for its intended victims.

    So we couldn’t resist turning the screws a little more by expanding NATO to Ukraine instead
     
    We didn't expand NATO into Ukraine, and as a result there is a war with 100,000s dead. Brilliant. Although some people within Ukraine are also to blame for that. Those same people are (sadly) the ones getting killed by the Russians the most.

    But Western timidity and fears of provoking Russia have had a very bloody and dangerous cost. The world is much more dangerous place now, than it would have been had the West given Ukraine what it needed to end the war sooner. Not only in early 2022, but years earlier. As I said a long time ago, the best way to prevent an invasion of a small country is to build up its military. It's why no one invaded North Korea despite outrageous behavior by that country (launching missiles over Japan, etc.). The Obama administration really dropped the ball. But the longer the West dithers, the worse it will be in the long run.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

    You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral

    I have never done that. Are you unable to build arguments without making moronic claims?

    despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do

    You’ve just lived longer in the US, that’s all. But you have confessed that you’re going to vote for Biden, an unhinged libtard who has opened the US borders and caused the largest influx of illegal immigrants in US history, just because you trust him more than his opponent to support the foreign country that you really care about. You prefer the US to continue receiving millions of uneducated, unvetted immigrants from the 3rd World each year rather than running the risk of a foreign country not receiving enough weapons paid for by US taxpayers. Your allegiance to the country of your ancestors is orders of magnitude greater than mine.

    Things are bad enough in this blog anyway. Arguing about who has a “stronger connection” to the US is a retarded way of spending one’s time. If you object to my taking part in civic duties in the US send an email to utgop.org. Good luck.

    • Agree: Matra
    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral


    I have never done that.
     
    You conveniently forgot to include my other words: "(implied, at least, because you said everyone does it)"

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-242/#comment-6423866

    And, regardless of any political considerations, it must have been a very long time since you last applied for a loan or a mortgage... You try to paint the most rosy picture of your business project that you can and then the bank accepts or declines your request based entirely on their own risk evaluation.

    If prosecutors started convicting every person who gives inaccurate information in a loan application, the justice system would simply collapse from one day to the other, along with business operations.
     
    Your normalization of inaccurate reporting to banks implies that you do that, also.

    despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do

    You’ve just lived longer in the US, that’s all.
     
    Quantity is its own quality. I grew up here, so I have a connection to this place that you will never have. It's clear that you can't even understand that. You are a drifter, who voluntarily left his homeland and moved to different countries (Poland, Chile, USA?). I hope you have at least settled in some Basque enclave in the Great Basin, rather than dilute the Mormonism of wherever you live.

    But you have confessed that you’re going to vote for Biden,
     
    Probably, though we'll see if something new develops. I did vote for Trump last time.

    BTW the oldest and longest-settled parts of the country will likely vote for Biden.

    who has opened the US borders and caused the largest influx of illegal immigrants in US history
     
    You opposed the measure that would have limited the numbers. You follow Trump, who wants maximum carnage before the election in order to maximize his chances of winning. Party over country.

    You prefer the US to continue receiving millions of uneducated, unvetted immigrants from the 3rd World each year
     
    No that's you.

    Rather than support a deal which would limit the numbers (millions is a theoretical maximum but the border would have been shut by now because the automatic shut-down trigger would have been reached, so it would not have been millions).

    Why the deal? Because the American people elected a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. So the best that can be done is a flawed compromise which at least has automatic shut-downs and doesn't leave the border wide open.

    But you don't like compromises reflecting the voters' will. As a former South American, you may be comfortable with strongman corrupt caudillo rule and vote accordingly. The perils of allowing people such as you into my country.

    running the risk of a foreign country not receiving enough weapons paid for by US taxpayers
     
    The risk of another Cold War with a resurgent neo-Soviet empire is worse than building up the US military industry with jobs in the American heartland. Of course, as a foreign drifter who came to this country you probably don't care about American workers and communities because "muh taxes."

    Arguing about who has a “stronger connection” to the US is a retarded way of spending one’s time.
     
    There's nothing to argue about, foreign drifter/intruder.

    At least the illegals don't vote.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

  411. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Family get together and corned beef and cabbage.

    I remember one year I made it, then was invited to dinner where someone else had it, and then had a different person give me Tupperware with it. I was starting to get very sick of it, and then I discovered that it made a very good sandwich,(I had never eaten it that way, other than as a coldcut) and started making sandwiches with it until I had successfully rid myself of the rest of it, which took a few days.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    There are actually a lot of” “Irish Pubs” located in Phoenix, and at least two closer to my home than Seamus McCaffrey’s, but McCaffrey’s is the best in the area, IMHO. Maybe it’s the live Irish music that sets it apart, but the food and drink are all top notch.

    https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e0298e710c2fa989&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS863US863&q=map+of+irish+pubs+in+phoenix&npsic=0&rflfq=1&rldoc=1&rllag=33530838,-112066274,10905&tbm=lcl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi40Mnf5PmEAxXZLkQIHT_HBwsQtgN6BAgREAE

    If you ever visit Phoenix, let me know and we can meet up McCaffreys, I think that we’d have a great time and a great meal!

    • Thanks: songbird
  412. @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    Any special plans to celebrate St. Pat's Day celebrations tomorrow? My favorite pub in Phoenix Land:

    Seamus McCaffrey's
    https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/qVZmnHStWp51mm0ph4Y-Bw/o.jpg

    Real good Irish faire, live music and the best imported fermented Apple Cider this side of the Mississippi!

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Nothing like a party where everybody is there to get drunk.

    When you are eighteen years old.

    I have written this before but I will repeat the formula for highest probability of having a wild crazy party.

    1. Everybody gets there at close to same time. A Super Bowl kickoff at 6:30 P. M. eastern standard time ideally fills this criterion.

    2. Large quantities of hard liquor.

    The reason the first step is critical is you went everybody getting to around the same level of drunk at around the same time. If half the people are past peak drunk and the other half aren’t there yet it doesn’t work the same.

    Also the success of your party is measured by the number of cars the cops send when it has to be shut down. I have never gone over three but a friend of mine once had a five. It was so much fun hardly anybody remembered what a great time they had.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Well, I think that you're closer to 18 than I am, or for that matter songbird. Go at it and pursue your dreams, unimpeded!

    If in Ukraine:
    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.jIvH72bpD5IE0aH29il4YgHaE7?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain
    Where to get drunk on St. Patrick's Day: the best pubs in Kyiv, Lviv and Odessa - Dobovo Blog

  413. Here is a good article on the Scholz economy: (1)

    German Finance Minister Christian Lindner (FDP) is warning his own government that state finances are quickly growing out of hand, and the government needs to change course and implement austerity measures. However, the dispute over spending is only expected to escalate, with budget shortfalls causing open clashes among the three-way left-liberal coalition running the country.

    Under EU law, Germany has limited its debt levels to 60 percent of economic output, which requires dramatic savings. A huge factor is Germany’s rapidly aging population, with a debt explosion on the horizon as more and more citizens head into retirement while tax revenues shrink and the social welfare system grows — in part due to the country’s exploding immigrant population.

    Lindner’s partners, the Greens and Social Democrats (SPD), are loath to cut spending further, as this will harm their electoral chances. In fact, Labor Minister Hubertus Heil is pushing for a new pension package that will add billions to the country’s debt, which remarkably, Lindner also supports.

    The SPD is calling for the removal of the country’s debt brake to fund large investment projects, however, the FDP ran on a campaign of keeping the brake in place. It can only be removed if the coalition government votes accordingly, and the FDP is adamant it will not vote to remove the brake.

    Kiev aggression is highly reliant on German funding, both directly and via the EU. Will German voters spend on Zelensky instead of their own needs?

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.rmx.news/article/germany-is-running-out-of-money-and-debt-levels-are-exploding-warns-countrys-finance-minister/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    Kiev aggression is highly reliant on German funding, both directly and via the EU. Will German voters spend on Zelensky instead of their own needs?
     
    Germany correctly has always felt that the defense of Ukraine, to stop the real aggressors that have tried to upset the apple cart of balance within Europe, to be in its own best interests.

    Replies: @Derer

  414. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Nothing like a party where everybody is there to get drunk.

    When you are eighteen years old.

    I have written this before but I will repeat the formula for highest probability of having a wild crazy party.

    1. Everybody gets there at close to same time. A Super Bowl kickoff at 6:30 P. M. eastern standard time ideally fills this criterion.

    2. Large quantities of hard liquor.

    The reason the first step is critical is you went everybody getting to around the same level of drunk at around the same time. If half the people are past peak drunk and the other half aren't there yet it doesn't work the same.

    Also the success of your party is measured by the number of cars the cops send when it has to be shut down. I have never gone over three but a friend of mine once had a five. It was so much fun hardly anybody remembered what a great time they had.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Well, I think that you’re closer to 18 than I am, or for that matter songbird. Go at it and pursue your dreams, unimpeded!

    If in Ukraine:
    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.jIvH72bpD5IE0aH29il4YgHaE7?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain
    Where to get drunk on St. Patrick’s Day: the best pubs in Kyiv, Lviv and Odessa – Dobovo Blog

  415. @A123
    Here is a good article on the Scholz economy: (1)

    German Finance Minister Christian Lindner (FDP) is warning his own government that state finances are quickly growing out of hand, and the government needs to change course and implement austerity measures. However, the dispute over spending is only expected to escalate, with budget shortfalls causing open clashes among the three-way left-liberal coalition running the country.
    ...
    Under EU law, Germany has limited its debt levels to 60 percent of economic output, which requires dramatic savings. A huge factor is Germany’s rapidly aging population, with a debt explosion on the horizon as more and more citizens head into retirement while tax revenues shrink and the social welfare system grows — in part due to the country’s exploding immigrant population.

    Lindner’s partners, the Greens and Social Democrats (SPD), are loath to cut spending further, as this will harm their electoral chances. In fact, Labor Minister Hubertus Heil is pushing for a new pension package that will add billions to the country’s debt, which remarkably, Lindner also supports.

    The SPD is calling for the removal of the country’s debt brake to fund large investment projects, however, the FDP ran on a campaign of keeping the brake in place. It can only be removed if the coalition government votes accordingly, and the FDP is adamant it will not vote to remove the brake.
     
    Kiev aggression is highly reliant on German funding, both directly and via the EU. Will German voters spend on Zelensky instead of their own needs?

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.rmx.news/article/germany-is-running-out-of-money-and-debt-levels-are-exploding-warns-countrys-finance-minister/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Kiev aggression is highly reliant on German funding, both directly and via the EU. Will German voters spend on Zelensky instead of their own needs?

    Germany correctly has always felt that the defense of Ukraine, to stop the real aggressors that have tried to upset the apple cart of balance within Europe, to be in its own best interests.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    Germany correctly has always felt that the defense of Ukraine, to stop the real aggressors
     
    Hogwash! German people (not the corrupt elite) do not forget that it was Russia that remove army from East Germany (300000) and allowed unification of Germany when Paris and London objected "it is too soon" was their argument.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  416. @A123
    @LatW


    So was The Silmarillion movie / series ever finished? Did they mess it up (with DEI)?
     
    The Silmarillion is a collection of tales scattered over thousands of years. Various efforts have looked at specific stories within the volume.

    An animated work The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim (1) may release this year. The director is known for Japanese anime.

    Amazon's Rings of Power dabbled in the time frame, but does not have the rights to The Silmarillion. The lore divergence between the two is epic. Season 1 was a horrifying DEI mess, and season 2 sounds worse.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/

    Replies: @songbird

    Recall reading about that. I know it is animated and the animation is not DIE, but I don’t think it is a coincidence that they cast a guy named Laurence Ubong Williams to voice the heir to the throne of Rohirrim.

    Will sound like a hipster when I say this, but I tend not to enjoy anime that is in some way drawn or directed by the Japanese but written by Hollywood. IMO, it is often missing the different elements which sometimes can make anime interesting – the Japanese stamp, which extends to more than just the visuals.

    BTW, heard in the new Dune they made the sun of the Harkonnen’s homeworld black or something.

    • Thanks: A123
  417. Am a little shocked to see PBS run with this story.

    I myself have known plastic recycling was a scam for a long time. (As I think most types.). Anything where a person needs to use hot water for a minute to clean some piece of trash is an obvious scam.

    [MORE]

    Furthermore, when your bin says “made from recycled materials” that is also indicative of an obvious scam. If it made sense, they wouldn’t need to advertise it.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Don't worry, robots can do anything.

    Oops, that's a problem, too.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  418. @A123
    @AP


    Russia wouldn’t go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn’t sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.
     
    You are badly misreading the mindset of the opposition. Russia believes Russian Crimea is Russia. There is no reason to believe that an attack on Russia would be allowed to stand. If France voids its Article V protection by going on offense. How would Russia respond?

    What if the Kremlin chooses to preempt with 500+ strategic thermonuclear warheads into France and their naval vessels at sea? It is the type of rational operating concept that is in a binder somewhere. The plan would be to destroy most, possibly all, of France's nuclear arsenal on the ground/water.

    Are you 100% sure that this scenario cannot possibly happen?

    This goes back to a point I have attempted to make multiple times, that you seem determined to ignore. Russian command believes what they BELIEVE. Not what AP would like them to believe. If you propose poking the Russian bear it would be prudent to consider that they will REACT on what they BELIEVE.
    ___

    Another point I have made many times is there are often gigantic gaps between what politicians say versus their actions. Hopefully & highly likely, Macron is simply posturing for domestic and EU audiences of Sheeple. It is hard to believe he is deranged enough to void France's Article V protection by going on a futile offensive.


    How are Russia’s currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.
     
    Hydrocarbon exports to Asia are lucrative. Refineries serving the Pacific market are out of Ukrainian reach. The state of the Russian treasury is vastly better than Ukraine's.

    Russia does not have to go on forever. They simply have to outlast foreign support for Kiev aggression. Scholz and Macron, Zelensky's primary masters, are both incredibly weak. Russia rationally sees the prospective duration as months, not decades.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @sudden death

    Hydrocarbon exports to Asia are lucrative. Refineries serving the Pacific market are out of Ukrainian reach.

    What exports – situation with refined production in RF domestic market even before recent attacks was so bad that all RF gasoline/diesel exports have banned already for six months at the start of 2024, lol

    That ban most likely will be continued even longer, so only significant export potentially increasing in this sphere is raw oil, but it will be forced measure, cause domestic refining capacities are being blown and reduced.

    Increased RF raw oil exports also means all OPEC cuts going down the drain, thus prices also going down or other members reducing production just for the sake of helping RF, which is also quite difficult knowing that Saudi economy overall contracted about 1% in 2023, but nearly 4% just in last quarter. Or RF will have to cut raw oil production, because there’s overall not enough domestic free storage capabilities for usual amounts of extracted oil when refineries are being burned.

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death


    What exports
     
    😆 ROTFLMAO 😂

    How about the $37 Billion to India: (1)


    The Kremlin Has Never Been Richer
    Thanks to a US Strategic Partner

     

    This flow of payments, ultimately to Moscow’s benefit, comes from India increasing its purchases of Russian crude by over 13 times its pre-war amounts, according to the analysis by the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA), exclusively shared with CNN. It amounts to US strategic partner New Delhi stepping in to replace crude purchases by Western buyers, reduced by sanctions over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the analysis said.

    While Russian crude sales to India are not subject to sanctions and are entirely legitimate, an examination of shipping routes by experts suggests this huge volume of shipments might involve the so-called “shadow fleet” of crude tankers, specially created by Moscow to try to disguise who it is trading with and how, and maximize the Kremlin’s profits.

    CNN witnessed what is a likely part of that complex trade off the Greek port of Gythio earlier this month. Two oil tankers – one massive, the other smaller – sidled up next to each other for a ship-to-ship transfer, which involves passing crude oil between vessels, sometimes with the aim of disguising its origin and ultimate destination.
     
    Why do you tell such lies for your Islamophile European Empire?

    The situation for your precious IslamoGloboHomo is quite bad. Even your Leftoid CNN shills have jumped ship.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/19/europe/russia-oil-india-shadow-fleet-cmd-intl/index.html

    Replies: @sudden death

  419. Angry damnation version of last words seems quite realistic, but was Greek language really that much widely ingrained at the time in Rome among the elites?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @sudden death

    It is times like this that I wish GR was around. I could have sworn I heard somewhere that Julius Caesar used to use cursewords or dirty language when talking to his troops. But I can't figure out if it is some misunderstanding on my part (perhaps related to the word vulgus) or whether it comes from some work of fiction.

    Anyway, whatever the historical record says, I prefer the idea that it was a superstitious curse. That he was using the Evil Eye on them, as he expired.

    , @Wokechoke
    @sudden death

    See you in hades!

  420. @sudden death
    @A123


    Hydrocarbon exports to Asia are lucrative. Refineries serving the Pacific market are out of Ukrainian reach.
     
    What exports - situation with refined production in RF domestic market even before recent attacks was so bad that all RF gasoline/diesel exports have banned already for six months at the start of 2024, lol

    That ban most likely will be continued even longer, so only significant export potentially increasing in this sphere is raw oil, but it will be forced measure, cause domestic refining capacities are being blown and reduced.

    Increased RF raw oil exports also means all OPEC cuts going down the drain, thus prices also going down or other members reducing production just for the sake of helping RF, which is also quite difficult knowing that Saudi economy overall contracted about 1% in 2023, but nearly 4% just in last quarter. Or RF will have to cut raw oil production, because there's overall not enough domestic free storage capabilities for usual amounts of extracted oil when refineries are being burned.

    Replies: @A123

    What exports

    😆 ROTFLMAO 😂

    How about the $37 Billion to India: (1)


    The Kremlin Has Never Been Richer
    Thanks to a US Strategic Partner

    This flow of payments, ultimately to Moscow’s benefit, comes from India increasing its purchases of Russian crude by over 13 times its pre-war amounts, according to the analysis by the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA), exclusively shared with CNN. It amounts to US strategic partner New Delhi stepping in to replace crude purchases by Western buyers, reduced by sanctions over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the analysis said.

    While Russian crude sales to India are not subject to sanctions and are entirely legitimate, an examination of shipping routes by experts suggests this huge volume of shipments might involve the so-called “shadow fleet” of crude tankers, specially created by Moscow to try to disguise who it is trading with and how, and maximize the Kremlin’s profits.

    CNN witnessed what is a likely part of that complex trade off the Greek port of Gythio earlier this month. Two oil tankers – one massive, the other smaller – sidled up next to each other for a ship-to-ship transfer, which involves passing crude oil between vessels, sometimes with the aim of disguising its origin and ultimate destination.

    Why do you tell such lies for your Islamophile European Empire?

    The situation for your precious IslamoGloboHomo is quite bad. Even your Leftoid CNN shills have jumped ship.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/19/europe/russia-oil-india-shadow-fleet-cmd-intl/index.html

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @A123

    All shilling attempts for Kremlin failed, lol


    Mar 15, 2024

    India, a top purchaser of Russian oil, has stopped paying for Russian premium crude oil for two months now, according to a local newspaper.

    Prior to Russia's war in Ukraine, India rarely used to buy Russian oil. But after Moscow lost European buyers due to sanctions imposed by the West in response to the conflict, Moscow boosted its trade with China, India and Turkey, offering them discounts.

    Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said in December 2023 that India has become a major buyer of Russian oil, with supplies to the country increasing to about 40 percent.

    Kommersant, a national Russian newspaper, reported on Thursday that India—the largest buyer of seaborne shipments of Russian oil—has refused to purchase Russian premium ESPO grade oil, which has a low sulfur content—for about two months now. Imports stopped in January and February, the publication said.

    The move will serve as a blow to Moscow, which depends on its oil exports and energy industry; they make up some 30 percent of the country's budget revenues, and fund the ongoing war in Ukraine. Russia is the world's third-largest producer of oil, accounting for more than 12 percent of global crude-oil production, according to Statista, and the energy industry is considered a crucial lifeline for Russian President Vladimir Putin's economy.

    When President Joe Biden announced a ban on Russian oil imports in March 2022, weeks into the full-scale war, he said the move would target the Russian economy's "main artery." The G7, the EU and Australia also imposed a price cap banning firms from insuring, financing, and shipping Russian seaborne oil exports sold above $60 a barrel.

    India has also reduced shipments of Sokol, another premium grade of Russian oil, partially due to payments difficulties.

    Billions of dollars in Russian oil profits are stuck in Indian banks due to restrictions by the Reserve Bank of India, which prevent Russian companies from transferring rupees stored in bank accounts in India to Russia and converting them into rubles. This has thwarted Putin's attempts to de-dollarize bilateral trade with India.
     

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-india-oil-putin-sanctions-1879547

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC

  421. @A123
    @sudden death


    What exports
     
    😆 ROTFLMAO 😂

    How about the $37 Billion to India: (1)


    The Kremlin Has Never Been Richer
    Thanks to a US Strategic Partner

     

    This flow of payments, ultimately to Moscow’s benefit, comes from India increasing its purchases of Russian crude by over 13 times its pre-war amounts, according to the analysis by the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA), exclusively shared with CNN. It amounts to US strategic partner New Delhi stepping in to replace crude purchases by Western buyers, reduced by sanctions over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the analysis said.

    While Russian crude sales to India are not subject to sanctions and are entirely legitimate, an examination of shipping routes by experts suggests this huge volume of shipments might involve the so-called “shadow fleet” of crude tankers, specially created by Moscow to try to disguise who it is trading with and how, and maximize the Kremlin’s profits.

    CNN witnessed what is a likely part of that complex trade off the Greek port of Gythio earlier this month. Two oil tankers – one massive, the other smaller – sidled up next to each other for a ship-to-ship transfer, which involves passing crude oil between vessels, sometimes with the aim of disguising its origin and ultimate destination.
     
    Why do you tell such lies for your Islamophile European Empire?

    The situation for your precious IslamoGloboHomo is quite bad. Even your Leftoid CNN shills have jumped ship.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/19/europe/russia-oil-india-shadow-fleet-cmd-intl/index.html

    Replies: @sudden death

    All shilling attempts for Kremlin failed, lol

    Mar 15, 2024

    India, a top purchaser of Russian oil, has stopped paying for Russian premium crude oil for two months now, according to a local newspaper.

    Prior to Russia’s war in Ukraine, India rarely used to buy Russian oil. But after Moscow lost European buyers due to sanctions imposed by the West in response to the conflict, Moscow boosted its trade with China, India and Turkey, offering them discounts.

    Russia’s Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said in December 2023 that India has become a major buyer of Russian oil, with supplies to the country increasing to about 40 percent.

    Kommersant, a national Russian newspaper, reported on Thursday that India—the largest buyer of seaborne shipments of Russian oil—has refused to purchase Russian premium ESPO grade oil, which has a low sulfur content—for about two months now. Imports stopped in January and February, the publication said.

    The move will serve as a blow to Moscow, which depends on its oil exports and energy industry; they make up some 30 percent of the country’s budget revenues, and fund the ongoing war in Ukraine. Russia is the world’s third-largest producer of oil, accounting for more than 12 percent of global crude-oil production, according to Statista, and the energy industry is considered a crucial lifeline for Russian President Vladimir Putin’s economy.

    When President Joe Biden announced a ban on Russian oil imports in March 2022, weeks into the full-scale war, he said the move would target the Russian economy’s “main artery.” The G7, the EU and Australia also imposed a price cap banning firms from insuring, financing, and shipping Russian seaborne oil exports sold above $60 a barrel.

    India has also reduced shipments of Sokol, another premium grade of Russian oil, partially due to payments difficulties.

    Billions of dollars in Russian oil profits are stuck in Indian banks due to restrictions by the Reserve Bank of India, which prevent Russian companies from transferring rupees stored in bank accounts in India to Russia and converting them into rubles. This has thwarted Putin’s attempts to de-dollarize bilateral trade with India.

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-india-oil-putin-sanctions-1879547

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death

    All shilling attempts for Kiev Aggression failed.

    😆 ROTFLMAO 😂

    Did you think to check the byline before you ultra shilled?


    By Isabel van Brugen
    Reporter
     
    WOWZERS!

    Your Scholz speaks and you hump his legs like a poorly trained dog.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @sudden death

    , @QCIC
    @sudden death

    These Western anti-Russia news tidbits are often cryptic. Based on the wording I wonder if India's refining capability is geared to high sulfur oil so they do not want to pay a higher price for low sulfur oil? They will probably work out the price with Russia.

    +++

    So far the videos of refinery fires I have seen looked small and may be repaired more rapidly than people expect. Obviously the strikes cannot go on too long or Russia will have a problem. Hmm, I wonder what they will do?

    +++

    So what do the curious, high profile deaths in Russia mean? Is this simply the work of the SBU? Or is it the work of CIA/MI-6? Could it be the Russians themselves, if so, which factions are involved? Perhaps these clever dead guys got the Moderna/Pfizer shots instead of Sputnik and the reaper caught up with them? Or maybe the oligarchs are simply getting back to their Wild West roots.

  422. @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    Kiev aggression is highly reliant on German funding, both directly and via the EU. Will German voters spend on Zelensky instead of their own needs?
     
    Germany correctly has always felt that the defense of Ukraine, to stop the real aggressors that have tried to upset the apple cart of balance within Europe, to be in its own best interests.

    Replies: @Derer

    Germany correctly has always felt that the defense of Ukraine, to stop the real aggressors

    Hogwash! German people (not the corrupt elite) do not forget that it was Russia that remove army from East Germany (300000) and allowed unification of Germany when Paris and London objected “it is too soon” was their argument.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    More nonsense from the peanut gallery:

    https://youtu.be/WX00QkvK-mQ

    Replies: @Sher Singh

  423. @sudden death
    Angry damnation version of last words seems quite realistic, but was Greek language really that much widely ingrained at the time in Rome among the elites?

    https://i.postimg.cc/GppZ7LxN/et-tu.jpg

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    It is times like this that I wish GR was around. I could have sworn I heard somewhere that Julius Caesar used to use cursewords or dirty language when talking to his troops. But I can’t figure out if it is some misunderstanding on my part (perhaps related to the word vulgus) or whether it comes from some work of fiction.

    Anyway, whatever the historical record says, I prefer the idea that it was a superstitious curse. That he was using the Evil Eye on them, as he expired.

  424. @songbird
    Am a little shocked to see PBS run with this story.

    I myself have known plastic recycling was a scam for a long time. (As I think most types.). Anything where a person needs to use hot water for a minute to clean some piece of trash is an obvious scam.
    https://youtu.be/397zqSPzomo?si=ILMWvAeoCpFs5UP6

    Furthermore, when your bin says "made from recycled materials" that is also indicative of an obvious scam. If it made sense, they wouldn't need to advertise it.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Don’t worry, robots can do anything.

    Oops, that’s a problem, too.

    • Agree: songbird
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    James Bond's girl is a robot.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY91pFWRAeM

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  425. @sudden death
    @A123

    All shilling attempts for Kremlin failed, lol


    Mar 15, 2024

    India, a top purchaser of Russian oil, has stopped paying for Russian premium crude oil for two months now, according to a local newspaper.

    Prior to Russia's war in Ukraine, India rarely used to buy Russian oil. But after Moscow lost European buyers due to sanctions imposed by the West in response to the conflict, Moscow boosted its trade with China, India and Turkey, offering them discounts.

    Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said in December 2023 that India has become a major buyer of Russian oil, with supplies to the country increasing to about 40 percent.

    Kommersant, a national Russian newspaper, reported on Thursday that India—the largest buyer of seaborne shipments of Russian oil—has refused to purchase Russian premium ESPO grade oil, which has a low sulfur content—for about two months now. Imports stopped in January and February, the publication said.

    The move will serve as a blow to Moscow, which depends on its oil exports and energy industry; they make up some 30 percent of the country's budget revenues, and fund the ongoing war in Ukraine. Russia is the world's third-largest producer of oil, accounting for more than 12 percent of global crude-oil production, according to Statista, and the energy industry is considered a crucial lifeline for Russian President Vladimir Putin's economy.

    When President Joe Biden announced a ban on Russian oil imports in March 2022, weeks into the full-scale war, he said the move would target the Russian economy's "main artery." The G7, the EU and Australia also imposed a price cap banning firms from insuring, financing, and shipping Russian seaborne oil exports sold above $60 a barrel.

    India has also reduced shipments of Sokol, another premium grade of Russian oil, partially due to payments difficulties.

    Billions of dollars in Russian oil profits are stuck in Indian banks due to restrictions by the Reserve Bank of India, which prevent Russian companies from transferring rupees stored in bank accounts in India to Russia and converting them into rubles. This has thwarted Putin's attempts to de-dollarize bilateral trade with India.
     

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-india-oil-putin-sanctions-1879547

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC

    All shilling attempts for Kiev Aggression failed.

    😆 ROTFLMAO 😂

    Did you think to check the byline before you ultra shilled?

    By Isabel van Brugen
    Reporter

    WOWZERS!

    Your Scholz speaks and you hump his legs like a poorly trained dog.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @A123

    Truly pathetic nitpicking, that Isabel essentially just translated info, which appeared in RF media paper, where some Western sanctioned journos, having close access to Putin himself (e.g. Andrey Kolesnikov) work as main writers, lol

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6564274

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  426. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    If Russia wins they don’t need them.
     
    Are you blind or just stupid? Don't you watch the news (or just post comments based on your orders from the centralna rada), you haven't noticed the dramatic events favoring Ukraine over the last month?

    The players need to change: Zelko is too much of a joke, Zaluzhny a hard-liner, Macron-Scholz-Indian are unserious. And Biden? A very bad visual, so no way.
     
    It's easier to change one player, instead of six as you suggest. Why not get rid of the biggest clown of all, Putler? He seems to be the one with the lowest IQ in the bunch.

    Replies: @Derer, @Beckow

    He (Putin) seems to be the one with the lowest IQ in the bunch.

    You are absolute idiot or getting nervous break down from your hate. Realistically the puppet of Germany (and he really looks like that), supports criminals that blew up Germany’s energy supplies worth billions of German finances, must have the IQ of my shoe size.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    Large shoe size doesn't always mean high I.Q. and vice versa too:

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/entertainment-clown-shoe_shop-circus-circus_clown-shoe_store-mgon244_low.jpg

  427. @sudden death
    @A123

    All shilling attempts for Kremlin failed, lol


    Mar 15, 2024

    India, a top purchaser of Russian oil, has stopped paying for Russian premium crude oil for two months now, according to a local newspaper.

    Prior to Russia's war in Ukraine, India rarely used to buy Russian oil. But after Moscow lost European buyers due to sanctions imposed by the West in response to the conflict, Moscow boosted its trade with China, India and Turkey, offering them discounts.

    Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said in December 2023 that India has become a major buyer of Russian oil, with supplies to the country increasing to about 40 percent.

    Kommersant, a national Russian newspaper, reported on Thursday that India—the largest buyer of seaborne shipments of Russian oil—has refused to purchase Russian premium ESPO grade oil, which has a low sulfur content—for about two months now. Imports stopped in January and February, the publication said.

    The move will serve as a blow to Moscow, which depends on its oil exports and energy industry; they make up some 30 percent of the country's budget revenues, and fund the ongoing war in Ukraine. Russia is the world's third-largest producer of oil, accounting for more than 12 percent of global crude-oil production, according to Statista, and the energy industry is considered a crucial lifeline for Russian President Vladimir Putin's economy.

    When President Joe Biden announced a ban on Russian oil imports in March 2022, weeks into the full-scale war, he said the move would target the Russian economy's "main artery." The G7, the EU and Australia also imposed a price cap banning firms from insuring, financing, and shipping Russian seaborne oil exports sold above $60 a barrel.

    India has also reduced shipments of Sokol, another premium grade of Russian oil, partially due to payments difficulties.

    Billions of dollars in Russian oil profits are stuck in Indian banks due to restrictions by the Reserve Bank of India, which prevent Russian companies from transferring rupees stored in bank accounts in India to Russia and converting them into rubles. This has thwarted Putin's attempts to de-dollarize bilateral trade with India.
     

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-india-oil-putin-sanctions-1879547

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC

    These Western anti-Russia news tidbits are often cryptic. Based on the wording I wonder if India’s refining capability is geared to high sulfur oil so they do not want to pay a higher price for low sulfur oil? They will probably work out the price with Russia.

    +++

    So far the videos of refinery fires I have seen looked small and may be repaired more rapidly than people expect. Obviously the strikes cannot go on too long or Russia will have a problem. Hmm, I wonder what they will do?

    +++

    So what do the curious, high profile deaths in Russia mean? Is this simply the work of the SBU? Or is it the work of CIA/MI-6? Could it be the Russians themselves, if so, which factions are involved? Perhaps these clever dead guys got the Moderna/Pfizer shots instead of Sputnik and the reaper caught up with them? Or maybe the oligarchs are simply getting back to their Wild West roots.

  428. Have said before that I thought AC Doyle was something of a strange jingoist, being essentially an Irishman in England. This opinion I formed on knowing he wrote an apologia for the Boer War. (Irish people used to name their dogs after the Boer generals.)

    And in the story that I mentioned to Mr. Hack, he more than once called a man named “Kennedy” an “Englishman.” (Though I don’t think he was supposed to be a sympathetic character.)

    Well, I have just come across a humorous quote he made during an interview in 1892:

    “I take the greatest possible interest in all things American,” said he. “There is, or ought to be, so little difference between them and us. And we must remember this : they are the coming Power. The centre of gravity of the whole race has shifted to the West, and I believe in time that every Saxon will be united under one form of government. Home Rule, with a centre of authority, and the Anglo-Saxon will swing the sword of justice over the whole world. We will not permit then the horrors of Siberia or the like. America and England, joined in their common Anglo-Saxonhood, with their common blood, will rule the world. We shall be united. And the sooner that day comes the better

    Am not unsympathetic to an appeal of kinship, if I am perhaps uncertain what he meant to encompass with the term Anglo-Saxon (himself?) But am quite puzzled by the reference to Siberia.
    https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php/A_Talk_with_Dr._Conan_Doyle

    • Replies: @Matra
    @songbird


    Have said before that I thought AC Doyle was something of a strange jingoist, being essentially an Irishman in England. This opinion I formed on knowing he wrote an apologia for the Boer War
     
    It's been pretty normal for centuries for people in the British Isles - "these isles" as the Irish say - to move from one to another and identify entirely with the place they were raised. Many of the leading IRA men have English surnames. 'Doyle' was the surname of a number of prominent Ulster Loyalist terrorists in the 1970s. People in Ireland have far more in common with the British than they do with your typical ethnic Irish American so it is normal for them to integrate fully. I don't think AC Doyle is that unusual.

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

  429. @LatW
    @Beckow


    Descriptions of people like Macron (or Trump) will always be subjective.
     
    Yes and no, people do have some stable, recognizable traits and some traits are universally likable. But you're right that we are subjective, nevertheless.

    To me he looks like a poseur and his narcissism (extreme self-regard) is quite obvious, to you that looks like strength.
     
    That's not what I was alluding to (even though some assertiveness and self-confidence is good for a leader of a large country, granted, humility can be charming as well). No, what I meant was his demeanor - I was watching the visit to Bucha where he and other Euro leaders visited, and when it zoomed closer, you can see that he has a rather charming demeanor - everyone was super serious and gloomy but he was a bit more light hearted (not in the bad sense that he was light hearted about Bucha ofc but just more vigorous looking) Yes, maybe he tries to dominate that way, but it's refreshing.

    You just don't like what he just said, when he said that "NATO is braindead", you probably agreed.


    Mostly? And what else would they do? In a war there are only two sides and by joining combat on the Ukie side they would be targets.
     
    This is not the right moment to discuss this, too hypothetical. There already exists a combat capable European army - the Ukrainian one. They should first focus on their needs and supply them adequately before discussing any Euro troops. Nobody is discussing that - Macron said "it is not excluded", he didn't say "I'm sending my troops" (there is another quote about Odessa, that was mentioned informally, but I have to find it now - either way, no need to rush events right now).

    Replies: @Beckow

    …when he said that “NATO is braindead”, you probably agreed.

    Most Western-run institutions are brain-dead: Nato, EU, UN, World Bank, WHO, WTO…they have lost sense of purpose, they are large bureacracies focused on the well-being of people who live of their grifting budgets. Aging institutions in a terminal state – similar to Catholic Church, commies in the 1980’s, Hollywood or news ‘media’ today’…

    The brain-deadness is so obvious that Macron – who has a quick tongue – couldn’t resist. He is clever but has no idea what to do. He is a talker.

    This is not the right moment to discuss this, too hypothetical. There already exists a combat capable European army – the Ukrainian one.

    Armies exist until they don’t. At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year – it has no way to revitalize itself, not enough men are reaching the draft age. Hypothetical Euro armies are a chimera, we better hope there will never be the right moment to discuss them.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    He is clever but has no idea what to do.
     
    He is clever, yes, but how do you know he has "no idea what to do"? He can start figuring it out, and he won't be alone, he will receive all the info and support.

    He is a talker.
     
    Remains to be seen. He's dealt with some challenges before. You know, it's not like any of the other Western leaders have faced this level of challenge vis a vis Russia (and he'll probably have to deal with the Americans on top of that). At least, he's awake (and somewhat young) and seems to understand the gravity of the situation. Also, Merkel's place is empty, because Scholz doesn't seem like he wants to take up a super assertive pan-European role, so someone has to take it. It may or may not be him, that remains to be seen. Best would be to do it together, like with the Weimar triangle.

    At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year
     
    What type of math did you use to arrive at this statement?

    we better hope there will never be the right moment to discuss them.
     
    I hope it doesn't go that far, it shouldn't have to.

    Replies: @Beckow

  430. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...when he said that “NATO is braindead”, you probably agreed.
     
    Most Western-run institutions are brain-dead: Nato, EU, UN, World Bank, WHO, WTO...they have lost sense of purpose, they are large bureacracies focused on the well-being of people who live of their grifting budgets. Aging institutions in a terminal state - similar to Catholic Church, commies in the 1980's, Hollywood or news 'media' today'...

    The brain-deadness is so obvious that Macron - who has a quick tongue - couldn't resist. He is clever but has no idea what to do. He is a talker.


    This is not the right moment to discuss this, too hypothetical. There already exists a combat capable European army – the Ukrainian one.
     
    Armies exist until they don't. At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year - it has no way to revitalize itself, not enough men are reaching the draft age. Hypothetical Euro armies are a chimera, we better hope there will never be the right moment to discuss them.

    Replies: @LatW

    He is clever but has no idea what to do.

    He is clever, yes, but how do you know he has “no idea what to do”? He can start figuring it out, and he won’t be alone, he will receive all the info and support.

    He is a talker.

    Remains to be seen. He’s dealt with some challenges before. You know, it’s not like any of the other Western leaders have faced this level of challenge vis a vis Russia (and he’ll probably have to deal with the Americans on top of that). At least, he’s awake (and somewhat young) and seems to understand the gravity of the situation. Also, Merkel’s place is empty, because Scholz doesn’t seem like he wants to take up a super assertive pan-European role, so someone has to take it. It may or may not be him, that remains to be seen. Best would be to do it together, like with the Weimar triangle.

    At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year

    What type of math did you use to arrive at this statement?

    we better hope there will never be the right moment to discuss them.

    I hope it doesn’t go that far, it shouldn’t have to.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...He can start figuring it out.
     
    Even if Macron does, there will still be nothing he can do. You don't seem to understand that this is a zugzwang - any move will make the Western situation worse. And ofc Kiev's, but they are a subsidiary.

    Offensives won't work, we have been over it. Prolonged stalemate will make the eventual collapse by Kiev worse. Surrender would require Russian cooperation. Bringing in Nato soldiers will not be enough and will only spread the blood to Poland, Romania, France, Balts... And going nuclear is not a solution.

    This was a cosmic screw-up, that's why Nuland was fired and most politicians are now quiet. It was simply a very bad idea to pick a fight with Russia in Ukraine by trying to move Nato there. Almost anything other would have been better.


    At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year

    What type of math did you use to arrive at this statement?
     

    Ukieland is down to 25-30 million people (at best). Their losses so far are around half a million, among them some of their better troops. They can draft unwilling and incapable people, most of their 40's and 50's, but they will never again have the large army they had in 2022-23. Too many losses. There is no way to fix it.

    Replies: @AP

  431. Heard that Martin Sellner was arrested in Switzerland.

    I suspect it is just harassment – that they will deport him. (Or perhaps they already did?) But also I think the German government was definitely behind it.

  432. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    Germany correctly has always felt that the defense of Ukraine, to stop the real aggressors
     
    Hogwash! German people (not the corrupt elite) do not forget that it was Russia that remove army from East Germany (300000) and allowed unification of Germany when Paris and London objected "it is too soon" was their argument.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    More nonsense from the peanut gallery:

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/BezirganMocha/status/1769143466099892339

    3 weeks from Kirpan should be banned to "this raises eyebrows" oy vey.

    Hindus & Wignats in the comments screeching how Sikhs are racist & do honor killing.

    With Maharaj's Blessing may the Khalsa live up to this reputation.

    ਅਕਾਲ

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  433. @LatW
    @Beckow


    He is clever but has no idea what to do.
     
    He is clever, yes, but how do you know he has "no idea what to do"? He can start figuring it out, and he won't be alone, he will receive all the info and support.

    He is a talker.
     
    Remains to be seen. He's dealt with some challenges before. You know, it's not like any of the other Western leaders have faced this level of challenge vis a vis Russia (and he'll probably have to deal with the Americans on top of that). At least, he's awake (and somewhat young) and seems to understand the gravity of the situation. Also, Merkel's place is empty, because Scholz doesn't seem like he wants to take up a super assertive pan-European role, so someone has to take it. It may or may not be him, that remains to be seen. Best would be to do it together, like with the Weimar triangle.

    At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year
     
    What type of math did you use to arrive at this statement?

    we better hope there will never be the right moment to discuss them.
     
    I hope it doesn't go that far, it shouldn't have to.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …He can start figuring it out.

    Even if Macron does, there will still be nothing he can do. You don’t seem to understand that this is a zugzwang – any move will make the Western situation worse. And ofc Kiev’s, but they are a subsidiary.

    Offensives won’t work, we have been over it. Prolonged stalemate will make the eventual collapse by Kiev worse. Surrender would require Russian cooperation. Bringing in Nato soldiers will not be enough and will only spread the blood to Poland, Romania, France, Balts… And going nuclear is not a solution.

    This was a cosmic screw-up, that’s why Nuland was fired and most politicians are now quiet. It was simply a very bad idea to pick a fight with Russia in Ukraine by trying to move Nato there. Almost anything other would have been better.

    At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year

    What type of math did you use to arrive at this statement?

    Ukieland is down to 25-30 million people (at best). Their losses so far are around half a million, among them some of their better troops. They can draft unwilling and incapable people, most of their 40’s and 50’s, but they will never again have the large army they had in 2022-23. Too many losses. There is no way to fix it.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow

    Garbage in:


    Ukieland is down to 25-30 million people (at best). Their losses so far are around half a million, among them some of their better troops.
     
    Garbage out:

    At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year
     
  434. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Don't worry, robots can do anything.

    Oops, that's a problem, too.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    James Bond’s girl is a robot.

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Don't put any ideas into XYZ's mind (he's so susceptible to visual stimuli). Also, more confirmation that it's really Klaus Schultz who runs the whole world. My apologies to Ivashka for ever questioning him on this one.

  435. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    More nonsense from the peanut gallery:

    https://youtu.be/WX00QkvK-mQ

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    3 weeks from Kirpan should be banned to “this raises eyebrows” oy vey.

    Hindus & Wignats in the comments screeching how Sikhs are racist & do honor killing.

    With Maharaj’s Blessing may the Khalsa live up to this reputation.

    ਅਕਾਲ

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Sher Singh

    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?

  436. @AP
    @Mikhail


    Happy Fake Election day!!!!

    Unlike Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, which cancelled an upcoming prez election
     
    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I'm sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.

    Britain also didn't run an election during its war.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikhail

    Britain also didn’t run an election during its war.

    Wars, plural. AFAIK, Britain didn’t hold elections during either WWI or WWII.

  437. @AP
    @Mikel


    Nowhere have I claimed to know more about Eastern Europe than the Eastern Europeans themselves, or anything remotely close to that.
     
    It was implied when you made remarks contradicting what both Russians and their western neighbors believe and the beliefs that they each act upon. Russia's western neighbors wanted NATO for safety from Russian domination, Russia opposed NATO because it prevented Russia from interfering or invading its western neighbors. Georgia and Ukraine are what happens without NATO.

    This was not Russia getting provoked by a NATO whose purpose was the ultimately invade Russia. This was Russia getting blocked from Western adventures (and Eastern Euros getting saved from them ) by NATO membership.

    The chances of a non-assimilated Ukrainian-American (your own self-description to AK)
     
    I indeed grew up speaking the Ukrainian language and maintain my connections to my grandparents' country of birth. I am therefore not assimilated. Nor are my kids, who speak Ukrainian and Russian.

    I was also born and grew up here (in the heartland far from the coasts, moreover) and thus despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do. You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral (implied, at least, because you said everyone does it), but it's ok because the banks are supposed to catch it. And then you oppose political policies that keep our military industry strong (in communities located and employing people mostly in the American heartland), oppose a flawed immigration deal that would have at least limited the mass immigration wave until a better one could be made after the next election, etc.

    Western Euros and Americans wanted to expand NATO in order to keep the 1992 geopolitical status quo and prevent the re-emergence of a Russian superpower.

    If that was their only innocent goal, they failed miserably
     
    Has Russia reabsorbed the Baltics and reestablished hegemony over Poland, Czechoslovakia, Romania, etc.? No?

    Looks like NATO succeeded in those places. Tens of millions of people spared all sorts of misery.

    It is in places where NATO did not go that there is mass death and destruction.

    And no, Russia is not a superpower. Would you have preferred it to have been one? Would life had been better for you with a Russian superpower plus a Chinese one?

    For 30 years Russia didn’t even dare recognize enclaves full of Russians as their own
     
    It was interfering long prior to 2022. What happened to Moldova (not in NATO)?

    even asked to be admitted into NATO.
     
    This would likely have cancelled the advantages of NATO protection for its intended victims.

    So we couldn’t resist turning the screws a little more by expanding NATO to Ukraine instead
     
    We didn't expand NATO into Ukraine, and as a result there is a war with 100,000s dead. Brilliant. Although some people within Ukraine are also to blame for that. Those same people are (sadly) the ones getting killed by the Russians the most.

    But Western timidity and fears of provoking Russia have had a very bloody and dangerous cost. The world is much more dangerous place now, than it would have been had the West given Ukraine what it needed to end the war sooner. Not only in early 2022, but years earlier. As I said a long time ago, the best way to prevent an invasion of a small country is to build up its military. It's why no one invaded North Korea despite outrageous behavior by that country (launching missiles over Japan, etc.). The Obama administration really dropped the ball. But the longer the West dithers, the worse it will be in the long run.

    Replies: @Mikel, @Mr. XYZ

    I indeed grew up speaking the Ukrainian language and maintain my connections to my grandparents’ country of birth. I am therefore not assimilated. Nor are my kids, who speak Ukrainian and Russian.

    You are partially assimilated. Not non-assimilated.

    This would likely have cancelled the advantages of NATO protection for its intended victims.

    Interesting that Russia either wanted itself in NATO or both itself and its neighbors outside of NATO. A cynic could argue that Russia wanted to keep the option of bullying its neighbors open either way.

    Off-topic, but if Russia would have become a real, progressive democracy rather than what it has now and successfully sought to join both the EU and NATO, or at least the EU, do you think that a EU with Russia as a member would be able to effectively compete against the US in a friendly manner?

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Mr. XYZ

    Integration means strong connection to both
    Assimilate means lose connection to motherland

    Separate means lack connection to adopted land

    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?

    Having fun trolling Mr hack atm
    They're don't allow laughter on planes.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

  438. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    If Russia wins they don’t need them.
     
    Are you blind or just stupid? Don't you watch the news (or just post comments based on your orders from the centralna rada), you haven't noticed the dramatic events favoring Ukraine over the last month?

    The players need to change: Zelko is too much of a joke, Zaluzhny a hard-liner, Macron-Scholz-Indian are unserious. And Biden? A very bad visual, so no way.
     
    It's easier to change one player, instead of six as you suggest. Why not get rid of the biggest clown of all, Putler? He seems to be the one with the lowest IQ in the bunch.

    Replies: @Derer, @Beckow

    …you haven’t noticed the dramatic events favoring Ukraine over the last month?

    Can you tell us what they were? Russia took Avdejevka, destroyd Patriots-S300’s, Ukies lost a bunch of villages and failed when they tried to invade Russia. And Macron had a fit of hysteria. What else? What am I missing?

    We have no way of knowing the IQs of main players – other than we know that yours is quite low, maybe mid-90’s on a good day? You are having mostly bad days now.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/81/5e/90815ef64ad3f32d6014a4e8367463d4.jpg :-)

  439. @AP
    @Beckow


    …Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Are you suggesting they do it again? How long would we be around to enjoy the show
     

    Russia wouldn't go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn't sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.

    But all similarities are far fetched. The West has ignored the obvious Russian regional dominance. Kiev wouldn’t last a month without the Nato support.
     
    Kiev stopped the Russians with minimal Western support (Javelins were helpful but they also used a lot of native Stugnas).

    Without Western support, Kiev's conventional military would have lasted about 6 months to a year, and then there would have been guerilla war, urban combat, and terrorism. It's not easy to occupy 30 million well-armed people. It would have all been a lot bloodier.

    But of course there was zero chance of no Western support. At the very least the Poles would have donated quite a lot.


    Time is on Russia’s side
     
    So you say and wish, in your desperation.

    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it's not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia), Russia has limitations that Kiev doesn't have. Moscow boys are much less willing to fight in Ukraine, than Kiev boys are willing to fight in Ukraine. Thus, the practical discrepancy between populations is much less than the raw population differences. Russia must rely on convicts, volunteers from very poor regions willing to die for the money, etc. This number isn't limitless. Try mass conscripting regular people from Moscow, Nizhni against their will to get their guts blown out in a field outside Kherson and see what happens.

    How are Russia's currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.

    So we cannot know who has more time. But it does look like Russia's leaders are more desperate to try to end things sooner. What do they know that we don't?


    The “Free French” numbers you invented are propaganda nonsense
     
    I quoted from Britannica which last I checked is more reliable than you are, and which is probably not a pro-French propaganda outlet.

    When it mattered the Frenchies fought as volunteers with the Nazis in 1941-43
     
    15,000 made no difference. And by 1943, there were already 100,000 Free French forces fighting in Italy.

    300,000 in 1944 did make a difference. They helped liberate France and drive into western Germany.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean

    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it’s not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia), Russia has limitations that Kiev doesn’t have. Moscow boys are much less willing to fight in Ukraine, than Kiev boys are willing to fight in Ukraine. Thus, the practical discrepancy between populations is much less than the raw population differences. Russia must rely on convicts, volunteers from very poor regions willing to die for the money, etc. This number isn’t limitless. Try mass conscripting regular people from Moscow, Nizhni against their will to get their guts blown out in a field outside Kherson and see what happens.

    Anatoly Karlin has argued that this war is Russia’s last chance to become a sovereign civilizational space, but even in the event of victory and subduing all Ukrainian resistance, Russia is still going to be a minnow relative to the US, EU, and China, both in terms of total population and in terms of elite science production.

    Frankly, Russia would be better off focusing all of its energies on developing artificial wombs and then producing them on a mass scale and using them to produce tens or even hundreds of millions of super-smart babies using the DNA of the smartest and most creative/inventive Russians (IVG can also help with this in the future).

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Artificial wombs are the worst idea ever. There is obviously an essential bio-electrical-chemical connection between the mother and the fetus which technology will not be able to replicate for a very long time. The biggest problem is that most people are too incompetent or stupid to acknowledge the existence of the connection.

    The use of mass media has trained people to be very shallow. Modern prosperity has fostered the feminist project. This combination is highly dysgenic.

    We need a culture which supports voluntary healthy breeding habits. Arranged marriages were an example of this, there must be others.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  440. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...you haven’t noticed the dramatic events favoring Ukraine over the last month?
     
    Can you tell us what they were? Russia took Avdejevka, destroyd Patriots-S300's, Ukies lost a bunch of villages and failed when they tried to invade Russia. And Macron had a fit of hysteria. What else? What am I missing?

    We have no way of knowing the IQs of main players - other than we know that yours is quite low, maybe mid-90's on a good day? You are having mostly bad days now.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    🙂

    • LOL: Mr. XYZ
  441. @Sher Singh
    @Mr. Hack

    https://twitter.com/BezirganMocha/status/1769143466099892339

    3 weeks from Kirpan should be banned to "this raises eyebrows" oy vey.

    Hindus & Wignats in the comments screeching how Sikhs are racist & do honor killing.

    With Maharaj's Blessing may the Khalsa live up to this reputation.

    ਅਕਾਲ

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?

  442. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    He (Putin) seems to be the one with the lowest IQ in the bunch.
     
    You are absolute idiot or getting nervous break down from your hate. Realistically the puppet of Germany (and he really looks like that), supports criminals that blew up Germany's energy supplies worth billions of German finances, must have the IQ of my shoe size.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Large shoe size doesn’t always mean high I.Q. and vice versa too:

  443. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    I indeed grew up speaking the Ukrainian language and maintain my connections to my grandparents’ country of birth. I am therefore not assimilated. Nor are my kids, who speak Ukrainian and Russian.

     

    You are partially assimilated. Not non-assimilated.

    This would likely have cancelled the advantages of NATO protection for its intended victims.

     

    Interesting that Russia either wanted itself in NATO or both itself and its neighbors outside of NATO. A cynic could argue that Russia wanted to keep the option of bullying its neighbors open either way.

    Off-topic, but if Russia would have become a real, progressive democracy rather than what it has now and successfully sought to join both the EU and NATO, or at least the EU, do you think that a EU with Russia as a member would be able to effectively compete against the US in a friendly manner?

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    Integration means strong connection to both
    Assimilate means lose connection to motherland

    Separate means lack connection to adopted land

    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?

    Having fun trolling Mr hack atm
    They’re don’t allow laughter on planes.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @songbird
    @Sher Singh


    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?
     
    Mr. Hack just wants to be sure to see you at the rally because he wants to cut an Indian flag with you, and perhaps burn Modi in effigy.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Sher Singh

    No laughter on planes? Don't worry, you'll soon be in Calgary.

    https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/b4noB0CZd0cY1rVKnGkhGrs7dgc=/fit-in/1072x0/https://tf-cmsv2-photocontest-smithsonianmag-prod-approved.s3.amazonaws.com/38888d52ee717c3bb37e54ecffb48f185e1070fb.jpg
    Looks like a lot of fun. :-)

  444. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail

    Looks to me like your backing the wrong horse Mickey, based on all of the anti war/Russia stuff your posting.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    !?

  445. @AP
    @Mikhail


    Happy Fake Election day!!!!

    Unlike Kiev regime controlled Ukraine, which cancelled an upcoming prez election
     
    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I'm sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.

    Britain also didn't run an election during its war.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikhail

    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I’m sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.

    You omitted the already banned political parties. Russia is in armed conflict and holding an election, inclusive of some former Ukrainian SSR territory. So much for the BS about Kiev regime successes striking Russian forces and Russian areas.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikhail


    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I’m sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.

    You omitted the already banned political parties.
     
    The ones who support an enemy at the time of war. Britain banned the fascists during World War II. America briefly banned the Communist Party during the Cold War (1954). For different reasons, Germany bans the Nazi Party.

    Russia is in armed conflict and holding an election
     
    Fake elections can be run during war, during peace, anytime at all.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  446. @A123
    @sudden death

    All shilling attempts for Kiev Aggression failed.

    😆 ROTFLMAO 😂

    Did you think to check the byline before you ultra shilled?


    By Isabel van Brugen
    Reporter
     
    WOWZERS!

    Your Scholz speaks and you hump his legs like a poorly trained dog.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @sudden death

    Truly pathetic nitpicking, that Isabel essentially just translated info, which appeared in RF media paper, where some Western sanctioned journos, having close access to Putin himself (e.g. Andrey Kolesnikov) work as main writers, lol

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6564274

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @sudden death

    You check mated him on this one, and he still tries to wiggle his way out by trying to cast some kind of weird kremlin like aspersion on a translator? Par for the course for a kremlin bootlicker who is only good at whistling dixie (and huffing airplane glue).

  447. @sudden death
    Angry damnation version of last words seems quite realistic, but was Greek language really that much widely ingrained at the time in Rome among the elites?

    https://i.postimg.cc/GppZ7LxN/et-tu.jpg

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    See you in hades!

  448. These chimps wouldn’t elect a king that has any kind of deformity:

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  449. @sudden death
    @A123

    Truly pathetic nitpicking, that Isabel essentially just translated info, which appeared in RF media paper, where some Western sanctioned journos, having close access to Putin himself (e.g. Andrey Kolesnikov) work as main writers, lol

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6564274

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    You check mated him on this one, and he still tries to wiggle his way out by trying to cast some kind of weird kremlin like aspersion on a translator? Par for the course for a kremlin bootlicker who is only good at whistling dixie (and huffing airplane glue).

  450. @Sher Singh
    @Mr. XYZ

    Integration means strong connection to both
    Assimilate means lose connection to motherland

    Separate means lack connection to adopted land

    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?

    Having fun trolling Mr hack atm
    They're don't allow laughter on planes.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?

    Mr. Hack just wants to be sure to see you at the rally because he wants to cut an Indian flag with you, and perhaps burn Modi in effigy.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I can fool most everybody here at this blogsite except for you songbird. :-(

  451. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    James Bond's girl is a robot.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY91pFWRAeM

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Don’t put any ideas into XYZ’s mind (he’s so susceptible to visual stimuli). Also, more confirmation that it’s really Klaus Schultz who runs the whole world. My apologies to Ivashka for ever questioning him on this one.

  452. @songbird
    @Sher Singh


    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?
     
    Mr. Hack just wants to be sure to see you at the rally because he wants to cut an Indian flag with you, and perhaps burn Modi in effigy.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I can fool most everybody here at this blogsite except for you songbird. 🙁

    • Agree: songbird
  453. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it’s not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia), Russia has limitations that Kiev doesn’t have. Moscow boys are much less willing to fight in Ukraine, than Kiev boys are willing to fight in Ukraine. Thus, the practical discrepancy between populations is much less than the raw population differences. Russia must rely on convicts, volunteers from very poor regions willing to die for the money, etc. This number isn’t limitless. Try mass conscripting regular people from Moscow, Nizhni against their will to get their guts blown out in a field outside Kherson and see what happens.
     
    Anatoly Karlin has argued that this war is Russia's last chance to become a sovereign civilizational space, but even in the event of victory and subduing all Ukrainian resistance, Russia is still going to be a minnow relative to the US, EU, and China, both in terms of total population and in terms of elite science production.

    Frankly, Russia would be better off focusing all of its energies on developing artificial wombs and then producing them on a mass scale and using them to produce tens or even hundreds of millions of super-smart babies using the DNA of the smartest and most creative/inventive Russians (IVG can also help with this in the future).

    Replies: @QCIC

    Artificial wombs are the worst idea ever. There is obviously an essential bio-electrical-chemical connection between the mother and the fetus which technology will not be able to replicate for a very long time. The biggest problem is that most people are too incompetent or stupid to acknowledge the existence of the connection.

    The use of mass media has trained people to be very shallow. Modern prosperity has fostered the feminist project. This combination is highly dysgenic.

    We need a culture which supports voluntary healthy breeding habits. Arranged marriages were an example of this, there must be others.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    Artificial wombs are a great way to help combat dysgenics, no?

    Also, what essential bio-electrical-chemical connection are you talking about here? Got any links?

    Replies: @QCIC

  454. Once again pretty agreeable rhetorics from Trump himself about giving the loan:

    “Zelenskyi is the greatest salesman in history. He leaves the USA with $50-60 billion every time. I have never been able to do this. He is a better salesman than I am. Loan them the money, don’t just hand them a check,” Trump said at a rally.

    However if we are to believe all the A12345’s out there, it’s nothing but more hot air blowing while trying to swindle Haley voters;)

    Or he listened to some blowback he received when he instructed Orban to float word balloon about cutting all the aid (thus letting RF to freely whatever it wants) and now decided to back down little bit? In such case it’s still notable that he was reluctant to let that trial balloon himself and used Orban as the disposable talkie sockpuppet, lol

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @sudden death

    Donald the Fat is 100% behind the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Some of us do not consider crime palatable. You maybe might enjoy eating the bugs which is their plan for you.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ

  455. @songbird
    Have said before that I thought AC Doyle was something of a strange jingoist, being essentially an Irishman in England. This opinion I formed on knowing he wrote an apologia for the Boer War. (Irish people used to name their dogs after the Boer generals.)

    And in the story that I mentioned to Mr. Hack, he more than once called a man named "Kennedy" an "Englishman." (Though I don't think he was supposed to be a sympathetic character.)

    Well, I have just come across a humorous quote he made during an interview in 1892:

    "I take the greatest possible interest in all things American," said he. "There is, or ought to be, so little difference between them and us. And we must remember this : they are the coming Power. The centre of gravity of the whole race has shifted to the West, and I believe in time that every Saxon will be united under one form of government. Home Rule, with a centre of authority, and the Anglo-Saxon will swing the sword of justice over the whole world. We will not permit then the horrors of Siberia or the like. America and England, joined in their common Anglo-Saxonhood, with their common blood, will rule the world. We shall be united. And the sooner that day comes the better
     
    Am not unsympathetic to an appeal of kinship, if I am perhaps uncertain what he meant to encompass with the term Anglo-Saxon (himself?) But am quite puzzled by the reference to Siberia.
    https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php/A_Talk_with_Dr._Conan_Doyle

    Replies: @Matra

    Have said before that I thought AC Doyle was something of a strange jingoist, being essentially an Irishman in England. This opinion I formed on knowing he wrote an apologia for the Boer War

    It’s been pretty normal for centuries for people in the British Isles – “these isles” as the Irish say – to move from one to another and identify entirely with the place they were raised. Many of the leading IRA men have English surnames. ‘Doyle’ was the surname of a number of prominent Ulster Loyalist terrorists in the 1970s. People in Ireland have far more in common with the British than they do with your typical ethnic Irish American so it is normal for them to integrate fully. I don’t think AC Doyle is that unusual.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Matra


    Doyle’ was the surname of a number of prominent Ulster Loyalist terrorists in the 1970s.

     

    The deep origin of the surname Doyle is not well documented. There is some speculation that it could have a Scottish origin, within Northern Ireland.

    Whatever the case, I suppose his wives were probably English and Scottish. And the genetic distance was likely fairly low, at that point, though I wonder what it would have been before the industrial revolution and various historical points.

    In some way, American blacks are like the Africans of the far-distant-perhaps-never-to-be future, as they are a mix from different sources in Africa. The kind that might occur naturally, if there was greater infrastructure and cultural integration.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @Wokechoke
    @Matra

    Look up General Eric Dorman-Smith.

    Eric O’Gowan.

  456. @sudden death
    Once again pretty agreeable rhetorics from Trump himself about giving the loan:

    "Zelenskyi is the greatest salesman in history. He leaves the USA with $50-60 billion every time. I have never been able to do this. He is a better salesman than I am. Loan them the money, don't just hand them a check," Trump said at a rally.
     
    However if we are to believe all the A12345's out there, it's nothing but more hot air blowing while trying to swindle Haley voters;)

    Or he listened to some blowback he received when he instructed Orban to float word balloon about cutting all the aid (thus letting RF to freely whatever it wants) and now decided to back down little bit? In such case it's still notable that he was reluctant to let that trial balloon himself and used Orban as the disposable talkie sockpuppet, lol


    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1769310875523874876

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Donald the Fat is 100% behind the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Some of us do not consider crime palatable. You maybe might enjoy eating the bugs which is their plan for you.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Trump's numbers with independents continue to improve: (1)


    1,400+ people were asked when were things better? Under Donald Trump or Joe Biden. The results are transparently obvious:

    With independent voters the margin jumps to Trump +22 (25/47)

     
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Yahoo-YouGov-Poll-Trump-v-Biden.jpg

     

    The GOP has a slim majority in the House. Forcing a straight vote could be tricky. Complicating the situation with multiple plans is a sound MAGA strategy. Everyone gets to vote FOR something. At the same time, Zelensky receives ZERO as no single bill passes in the House. Optionally, something unacceptable to the Senate could be slipped thru to become stuck there.

    If the White House occupant wants any money for Kiev aggression he will have to make major concessions on border security. Does anyone think that the Veggie-In-Chief will agree to permanently reinstating Trump's "Stay in Mexuco" program during an election year?

    Perhaps ShillD thinks could happen;) Why are unhinged #NeverTrump zealots, like him, so oblivious to reality?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/16/yougov-poll-ask-question-when-were-things-better-under-trump-or-biden/

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I think that Trump just really, really enjoys licking Bibi's ass lol!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5LvYkCX4AAqNED.jpg:large

    Replies: @A123

  457. @Sher Singh
    @Mr. XYZ

    Integration means strong connection to both
    Assimilate means lose connection to motherland

    Separate means lack connection to adopted land

    Are you on your way to Calgary? If not, what are you waiting for?

    Having fun trolling Mr hack atm
    They're don't allow laughter on planes.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

    No laughter on planes? Don’t worry, you’ll soon be in Calgary.
    Looks like a lot of fun. 🙂

    • Thanks: Sher Singh
  458. @Matra
    @songbird


    Have said before that I thought AC Doyle was something of a strange jingoist, being essentially an Irishman in England. This opinion I formed on knowing he wrote an apologia for the Boer War
     
    It's been pretty normal for centuries for people in the British Isles - "these isles" as the Irish say - to move from one to another and identify entirely with the place they were raised. Many of the leading IRA men have English surnames. 'Doyle' was the surname of a number of prominent Ulster Loyalist terrorists in the 1970s. People in Ireland have far more in common with the British than they do with your typical ethnic Irish American so it is normal for them to integrate fully. I don't think AC Doyle is that unusual.

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    Doyle’ was the surname of a number of prominent Ulster Loyalist terrorists in the 1970s.

    The deep origin of the surname Doyle is not well documented. There is some speculation that it could have a Scottish origin, within Northern Ireland.

    Whatever the case, I suppose his wives were probably English and Scottish. And the genetic distance was likely fairly low, at that point, though I wonder what it would have been before the industrial revolution and various historical points.

    In some way, American blacks are like the Africans of the far-distant-perhaps-never-to-be future, as they are a mix from different sources in Africa. The kind that might occur naturally, if there was greater infrastructure and cultural integration.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird


    And the genetic distance was likely fairly low, at that point, though I wonder what it would have been before the industrial revolution and various historical points.
     
    On his YouTube I remember hearing SurvivetheJive saying that the Irish were still mostly descended from the original Bell Beaker people who migrated around the 2100 BC period.

    The Scottish in the North and West of Scotland are supposed to be similar. But further south in England there were significant later migrations from the continent, one from France around 1200 BC, then the Anglo-Saxons.

    When they go more deeply into the genetics of the Anglo-Saxons it looks like they had more French input than previously thought, also that they remained more Celtic. I think apart from some areas in the south-east of England, the Germanic contribution is between 50-20%.

    This looks different to the image of the later 19th century say, where Anglo-Saxons tended to be thought of as mainly Germanic in origin.

    Replies: @songbird

  459. A123 says: • Website
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @sudden death

    Donald the Fat is 100% behind the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Some of us do not consider crime palatable. You maybe might enjoy eating the bugs which is their plan for you.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ

    Trump’s numbers with independents continue to improve: (1)

    1,400+ people were asked when were things better? Under Donald Trump or Joe Biden. The results are transparently obvious:

    With independent voters the margin jumps to Trump +22 (25/47)

     

    The GOP has a slim majority in the House. Forcing a straight vote could be tricky. Complicating the situation with multiple plans is a sound MAGA strategy. Everyone gets to vote FOR something. At the same time, Zelensky receives ZERO as no single bill passes in the House. Optionally, something unacceptable to the Senate could be slipped thru to become stuck there.

    If the White House occupant wants any money for Kiev aggression he will have to make major concessions on border security. Does anyone think that the Veggie-In-Chief will agree to permanently reinstating Trump’s “Stay in Mexuco” program during an election year?

    Perhaps ShillD thinks could happen;) Why are unhinged #NeverTrump zealots, like him, so oblivious to reality?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/16/yougov-poll-ask-question-when-were-things-better-under-trump-or-biden/

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    He has cleaner whores than Charles Manson. I suppose he deserves props for that.

    Replies: @A123

    , @John Johnson
    @A123

    1,400+ people were asked when were things better? Under Donald Trump or Joe Biden. The results are transparently obvious:

    With independent voters the margin jumps to Trump +22 (25/47)


    That isn't a measurement of independents moving to Trump.

    You can say you preferred your Florida trip over Hawaii but that doesn't mean you want to do either again.

    Trump's worst legal case is still yet to come. You might want to see how many felonies he catches before doing voluntary PR work.

    Replies: @A123

  460. @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Trump's numbers with independents continue to improve: (1)


    1,400+ people were asked when were things better? Under Donald Trump or Joe Biden. The results are transparently obvious:

    With independent voters the margin jumps to Trump +22 (25/47)

     
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Yahoo-YouGov-Poll-Trump-v-Biden.jpg

     

    The GOP has a slim majority in the House. Forcing a straight vote could be tricky. Complicating the situation with multiple plans is a sound MAGA strategy. Everyone gets to vote FOR something. At the same time, Zelensky receives ZERO as no single bill passes in the House. Optionally, something unacceptable to the Senate could be slipped thru to become stuck there.

    If the White House occupant wants any money for Kiev aggression he will have to make major concessions on border security. Does anyone think that the Veggie-In-Chief will agree to permanently reinstating Trump's "Stay in Mexuco" program during an election year?

    Perhaps ShillD thinks could happen;) Why are unhinged #NeverTrump zealots, like him, so oblivious to reality?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/16/yougov-poll-ask-question-when-were-things-better-under-trump-or-biden/

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    He has cleaner whores than Charles Manson. I suppose he deserves props for that.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    How do you know about ShillD's whores;)

    PEACE 😇

  461. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    He has cleaner whores than Charles Manson. I suppose he deserves props for that.

    Replies: @A123

    How do you know about ShillD’s whores;)

    PEACE 😇

  462. @sudden death
    @John Johnson


    Judging by the behind-the-scenes commentary, the Syzran Oil Refinery has been shut down for a long time, since we are talking about the installation of K-2 and AVT-6. Their capacity is 6 million tonnes of raw oil per year, the replacement period for such a column is approximately one and a half to two years. And this is if the another drone doesn’t fly along the repaired column again.
     
    Targets:
    https://i.postimg.cc/51fk78c5/raw-oil-column.jpg

    Tools:
    https://i.postimg.cc/9mDPKXph/UA-drones.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson

    That makes for a very nice target since it is pressurized. Thanks for sharing that cutaway view, very interesting.

    And they did it again:

    Someone in the comments said that the distillation towers rely on Western parts.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @John Johnson

    These are called the "Budanov's sanctions" (named after the head of the Ukrainian intelligence service who is said to be behind these blasts). They joke "Budanov's sanctions are working better than the real sanctions" (e.g., in how they're affecting the oil industry).

    The phrase of the year "Gde PVO???" ("Where is the air defense?") (You cannot cover all of Russia, probably not even most of it).

    Another joke - this one is from the Russian rebels who like throwing out stuff like: "Soon I will ride into Moscow on a white Abrams." (As in, "on a white horse", as a savior, lol)

    I probably shouldn't joke about this stuff (given how crazy it is), but I thought you'd find it funny.

    Replies: @QCIC

  463. @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Trump's numbers with independents continue to improve: (1)


    1,400+ people were asked when were things better? Under Donald Trump or Joe Biden. The results are transparently obvious:

    With independent voters the margin jumps to Trump +22 (25/47)

     
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Yahoo-YouGov-Poll-Trump-v-Biden.jpg

     

    The GOP has a slim majority in the House. Forcing a straight vote could be tricky. Complicating the situation with multiple plans is a sound MAGA strategy. Everyone gets to vote FOR something. At the same time, Zelensky receives ZERO as no single bill passes in the House. Optionally, something unacceptable to the Senate could be slipped thru to become stuck there.

    If the White House occupant wants any money for Kiev aggression he will have to make major concessions on border security. Does anyone think that the Veggie-In-Chief will agree to permanently reinstating Trump's "Stay in Mexuco" program during an election year?

    Perhaps ShillD thinks could happen;) Why are unhinged #NeverTrump zealots, like him, so oblivious to reality?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _____________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/16/yougov-poll-ask-question-when-were-things-better-under-trump-or-biden/

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    1,400+ people were asked when were things better? Under Donald Trump or Joe Biden. The results are transparently obvious:

    With independent voters the margin jumps to Trump +22 (25/47)

    That isn’t a measurement of independents moving to Trump.

    You can say you preferred your Florida trip over Hawaii but that doesn’t mean you want to do either again.

    Trump’s worst legal case is still yet to come. You might want to see how many felonies he catches before doing voluntary PR work.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    Why would anyone rational believe a negative story about Trump? The Fake Stream Media is so desperate, they are now in engaging in deliberate hoaxes: (1)


    The blatant disinformation and misinformation by leftist newspapers, radicals in the Biden administration, and even Democrat lawmakers have been on full display over the last 15 hours. There has also been an awakening on X of just how bad Democrats are at propaganda - and they can't even make it believable anymore.

    Let's begin with the actual speech. On Saturday evening, X account EndWokeness posted a video [MORE] of Trump at a campaign rally in Vandalia, Ohio. In it, Trump tells the audience that the American automobile industry will be a bloodbath if he's not re-elected because the Biden administration will allow Chinese cars to flood the market.

    Almost immediately, legacy media outlets, such as NBC News, ABC News, and Politico, among others, took Trump's speech entirely out of context...

    ...

    Elon Musk commented on the absurd propaganda, saying, "Legacy media lies."

    The disinformation and misinformation campaign by the Democrats this weekend is right out in the open. And they're not even good at it!

    And you wonder why trust in corporate media is imploding to record lows as Americans are tired of being lied to for years. The result of breaking out of the corporate/government propaganda matrix has been the flood of Americans finding their news on X.


     

    There is no rescue coming for your precious unelected President and his illegitimate regime. The lawfare persecution of Trump simply makes him stronger.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _________________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leftist-corporate-media-unleash-bloodbath-hoax-after-trumps-speech



    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1769347889392730271?s=20
  464. A123 says: • Website
    @John Johnson
    @A123

    1,400+ people were asked when were things better? Under Donald Trump or Joe Biden. The results are transparently obvious:

    With independent voters the margin jumps to Trump +22 (25/47)


    That isn't a measurement of independents moving to Trump.

    You can say you preferred your Florida trip over Hawaii but that doesn't mean you want to do either again.

    Trump's worst legal case is still yet to come. You might want to see how many felonies he catches before doing voluntary PR work.

    Replies: @A123

    Why would anyone rational believe a negative story about Trump? The Fake Stream Media is so desperate, they are now in engaging in deliberate hoaxes: (1)

    The blatant disinformation and misinformation by leftist newspapers, radicals in the Biden administration, and even Democrat lawmakers have been on full display over the last 15 hours. There has also been an awakening on X of just how bad Democrats are at propaganda – and they can’t even make it believable anymore.

    Let’s begin with the actual speech. On Saturday evening, X account EndWokeness posted a video [MORE] of Trump at a campaign rally in Vandalia, Ohio. In it, Trump tells the audience that the American automobile industry will be a bloodbath if he’s not re-elected because the Biden administration will allow Chinese cars to flood the market.

    Almost immediately, legacy media outlets, such as NBC News, ABC News, and Politico, among others, took Trump’s speech entirely out of context…

    Elon Musk commented on the absurd propaganda, saying, “Legacy media lies.”

    The disinformation and misinformation campaign by the Democrats this weekend is right out in the open. And they’re not even good at it!

    And you wonder why trust in corporate media is imploding to record lows as Americans are tired of being lied to for years. The result of breaking out of the corporate/government propaganda matrix has been the flood of Americans finding their news on X.

    There is no rescue coming for your precious unelected President and his illegitimate regime. The lawfare persecution of Trump simply makes him stronger.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    _________________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leftist-corporate-media-unleash-bloodbath-hoax-after-trumps-speech

    [MORE]

  465. @John Johnson
    @sudden death

    That makes for a very nice target since it is pressurized. Thanks for sharing that cutaway view, very interesting.

    And they did it again:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJkEfRQ3p9Y

    Someone in the comments said that the distillation towers rely on Western parts.

    Replies: @LatW

    These are called the “Budanov’s sanctions” (named after the head of the Ukrainian intelligence service who is said to be behind these blasts). They joke “Budanov’s sanctions are working better than the real sanctions” (e.g., in how they’re affecting the oil industry).

    The phrase of the year “Gde PVO???” (“Where is the air defense?”) (You cannot cover all of Russia, probably not even most of it).

    [MORE]

    Another joke – this one is from the Russian rebels who like throwing out stuff like: “Soon I will ride into Moscow on a white Abrams.” (As in, “on a white horse”, as a savior, lol)

    I probably shouldn’t joke about this stuff (given how crazy it is), but I thought you’d find it funny.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    Russia is a large country with many juicy civilian targets. The larger targets may have some protection against drones, but even this can only be partially effective. There are many technical approaches to protect more targets and protect them well, but these measures take time and money. New threats will evolve almost as fast as countermeasures are fielded.

    It is important to remember that in the West the long-standing policy is not to protect valuable targets at all, but simply to attack any potential threats preemptively far away from home. Stripped of context this sounds good but inherently requires lies and subterfuge to justify the preemptive attacks. This pattern is very corrosive to society. Peaceful coexistence buttressed by sincere treaties is a much better plan, but is not the way of the bully.

    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets. If this is a real war, I think Russia will be obligated to take more drastic measures against Ukraine. At this point most people in the world will not be surprised. Russia now has clear and present justification for preemptive strikes.

    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?

    I think a major attack on Moscow or St. Petersburg could trigger a nuclear response. However, the purpose of the weapons is to protect these iconic cities, not to avenge them. Therefore the threshold for nuclear response has to be significantly lower than a major attack on these cities. The idea is that a draconian response could cause a reset of the Western strategy before it is too late. However, the number of additional steps of escalation available to the West and their Ukie proxy pawns before reaching the Russian nuclear threshold is gradually shrinking. The West is pushing Russia into the position where preemptive nuclear strikes are the least risky option. Assuming again that this is a real war, then it seems Russia is simply preparing for the worst as long as possible.

    Replies: @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

  466. @LatW
    @John Johnson

    These are called the "Budanov's sanctions" (named after the head of the Ukrainian intelligence service who is said to be behind these blasts). They joke "Budanov's sanctions are working better than the real sanctions" (e.g., in how they're affecting the oil industry).

    The phrase of the year "Gde PVO???" ("Where is the air defense?") (You cannot cover all of Russia, probably not even most of it).

    Another joke - this one is from the Russian rebels who like throwing out stuff like: "Soon I will ride into Moscow on a white Abrams." (As in, "on a white horse", as a savior, lol)

    I probably shouldn't joke about this stuff (given how crazy it is), but I thought you'd find it funny.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Russia is a large country with many juicy civilian targets. The larger targets may have some protection against drones, but even this can only be partially effective. There are many technical approaches to protect more targets and protect them well, but these measures take time and money. New threats will evolve almost as fast as countermeasures are fielded.

    It is important to remember that in the West the long-standing policy is not to protect valuable targets at all, but simply to attack any potential threats preemptively far away from home. Stripped of context this sounds good but inherently requires lies and subterfuge to justify the preemptive attacks. This pattern is very corrosive to society. Peaceful coexistence buttressed by sincere treaties is a much better plan, but is not the way of the bully.

    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets. If this is a real war, I think Russia will be obligated to take more drastic measures against Ukraine. At this point most people in the world will not be surprised. Russia now has clear and present justification for preemptive strikes.

    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?

    I think a major attack on Moscow or St. Petersburg could trigger a nuclear response. However, the purpose of the weapons is to protect these iconic cities, not to avenge them. Therefore the threshold for nuclear response has to be significantly lower than a major attack on these cities. The idea is that a draconian response could cause a reset of the Western strategy before it is too late. However, the number of additional steps of escalation available to the West and their Ukie proxy pawns before reaching the Russian nuclear threshold is gradually shrinking. The West is pushing Russia into the position where preemptive nuclear strikes are the least risky option. Assuming again that this is a real war, then it seems Russia is simply preparing for the worst as long as possible.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC


    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?
     
    Panda doesn't like this noise:

    https://www.newsweek.com/china-responds-putin-nuclear-weapons-warning-1879113

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets.
     
    This is merely terrorism. Probably no military significance whatsoever. Even taking out Germany's gas supply had limited effects.

    A reporter with testosterone could ask Kirby some embarrassing questions if it were possible to embarrass that tool.

    Slugs.

    https://i0.wp.com/friendsofedgewood.org/wp-content/uploads/ew_mv_banana-slug.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    The West is pushing Russia into the position where preemptive nuclear strikes are the least risky option. Assuming again that this is a real war, then it seems Russia is simply preparing for the worst as long as possible.

    The best way to de-escalate would be to accept the UN 143-5 decision that Russia is the unjust aggressor and needs to return to their borders.

    At current rates Ukraine is on track to take out the rest of their Western oil refineries. They actually have a good chance of spiking Russian gas prices and cutting their oil profit.

    "I could take Kiev in 2 weeks if I wanted to"

    - Putin in 2014

    , @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z5AcHFqN0g

  467. @QCIC
    @LatW

    Russia is a large country with many juicy civilian targets. The larger targets may have some protection against drones, but even this can only be partially effective. There are many technical approaches to protect more targets and protect them well, but these measures take time and money. New threats will evolve almost as fast as countermeasures are fielded.

    It is important to remember that in the West the long-standing policy is not to protect valuable targets at all, but simply to attack any potential threats preemptively far away from home. Stripped of context this sounds good but inherently requires lies and subterfuge to justify the preemptive attacks. This pattern is very corrosive to society. Peaceful coexistence buttressed by sincere treaties is a much better plan, but is not the way of the bully.

    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets. If this is a real war, I think Russia will be obligated to take more drastic measures against Ukraine. At this point most people in the world will not be surprised. Russia now has clear and present justification for preemptive strikes.

    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?

    I think a major attack on Moscow or St. Petersburg could trigger a nuclear response. However, the purpose of the weapons is to protect these iconic cities, not to avenge them. Therefore the threshold for nuclear response has to be significantly lower than a major attack on these cities. The idea is that a draconian response could cause a reset of the Western strategy before it is too late. However, the number of additional steps of escalation available to the West and their Ukie proxy pawns before reaching the Russian nuclear threshold is gradually shrinking. The West is pushing Russia into the position where preemptive nuclear strikes are the least risky option. Assuming again that this is a real war, then it seems Russia is simply preparing for the worst as long as possible.

    Replies: @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?

    Panda doesn’t like this noise:

    https://www.newsweek.com/china-responds-putin-nuclear-weapons-warning-1879113

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    Panda can go eat bamboo. Sensible people know that China has the least transparent major nuclear arsenal and very likely more than 1000 warheads. No one at Unz has been willing to dig into the "New Great Wall" Chinese nuclear installation.

    Russia knows the West could conceivably polarize China against Russia so the picture is complicated. This gives three way tension for starting a world war over pissant Slav grievances. Great job, morons.

    Replies: @LatW

  468. @QCIC
    @LatW

    Russia is a large country with many juicy civilian targets. The larger targets may have some protection against drones, but even this can only be partially effective. There are many technical approaches to protect more targets and protect them well, but these measures take time and money. New threats will evolve almost as fast as countermeasures are fielded.

    It is important to remember that in the West the long-standing policy is not to protect valuable targets at all, but simply to attack any potential threats preemptively far away from home. Stripped of context this sounds good but inherently requires lies and subterfuge to justify the preemptive attacks. This pattern is very corrosive to society. Peaceful coexistence buttressed by sincere treaties is a much better plan, but is not the way of the bully.

    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets. If this is a real war, I think Russia will be obligated to take more drastic measures against Ukraine. At this point most people in the world will not be surprised. Russia now has clear and present justification for preemptive strikes.

    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?

    I think a major attack on Moscow or St. Petersburg could trigger a nuclear response. However, the purpose of the weapons is to protect these iconic cities, not to avenge them. Therefore the threshold for nuclear response has to be significantly lower than a major attack on these cities. The idea is that a draconian response could cause a reset of the Western strategy before it is too late. However, the number of additional steps of escalation available to the West and their Ukie proxy pawns before reaching the Russian nuclear threshold is gradually shrinking. The West is pushing Russia into the position where preemptive nuclear strikes are the least risky option. Assuming again that this is a real war, then it seems Russia is simply preparing for the worst as long as possible.

    Replies: @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets.

    This is merely terrorism. Probably no military significance whatsoever. Even taking out Germany’s gas supply had limited effects.

    A reporter with testosterone could ask Kirby some embarrassing questions if it were possible to embarrass that tool.

    Slugs.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Big picture, big picture.

    The attacks are probably designed to sow dissent within the halls of Russian power at the same time motivating NATO support for Ukraine (Slava Ukraine, we can win!). If these attacks continue, larger, more valuable targets will be damaged.

    Drones are cheap. In this case defense is more difficult than offense.

    Neither of you answered the question. What is the least impactful "Ukrainian" attack which might lead to a Russian nuclear response, probably tactical? If the West destroyed a Russian nuclear-armed submarine would this do it? Maybe a tit for tat response? What if NATO put a blockade around Kaliningrad? What if the USA put nuclear-armed missiles in Romania and Poland?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @A123

  469. @LatW
    @QCIC


    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?
     
    Panda doesn't like this noise:

    https://www.newsweek.com/china-responds-putin-nuclear-weapons-warning-1879113

    Replies: @QCIC

    Panda can go eat bamboo. Sensible people know that China has the least transparent major nuclear arsenal and very likely more than 1000 warheads. No one at Unz has been willing to dig into the “New Great Wall” Chinese nuclear installation.

    Russia knows the West could conceivably polarize China against Russia so the picture is complicated. This gives three way tension for starting a world war over pissant Slav grievances. Great job, morons.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC

    Those are just details. The "big picture", as you yourself like to say, is that this past week Putin threatened with nukes once again (for the umpteenth time), and two other nuclear states responded to this - France and China. Both kindly suggested to him not to escalate. There is a hypothetical scenario where the crazy grandpa is simply not allowed to activate the nukes (either by the nuclear club or by the Russians themselves).

    Replies: @QCIC

  470. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets.
     
    This is merely terrorism. Probably no military significance whatsoever. Even taking out Germany's gas supply had limited effects.

    A reporter with testosterone could ask Kirby some embarrassing questions if it were possible to embarrass that tool.

    Slugs.

    https://i0.wp.com/friendsofedgewood.org/wp-content/uploads/ew_mv_banana-slug.jpg

    Replies: @QCIC

    Big picture, big picture.

    The attacks are probably designed to sow dissent within the halls of Russian power at the same time motivating NATO support for Ukraine (Slava Ukraine, we can win!). If these attacks continue, larger, more valuable targets will be damaged.

    Drones are cheap. In this case defense is more difficult than offense.

    Neither of you answered the question. What is the least impactful “Ukrainian” attack which might lead to a Russian nuclear response, probably tactical? If the West destroyed a Russian nuclear-armed submarine would this do it? Maybe a tit for tat response? What if NATO put a blockade around Kaliningrad? What if the USA put nuclear-armed missiles in Romania and Poland?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    If Russia in confrontation with the United States explodes nukes we all are goners before discussion gets to the 5 minute mark. Obviously our plan is that this won't happen.

    This one is pretty good:

    https://www.amazon.com/Thermonuclear-War-Herman-Kahn/dp/141280664X/

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @A123
    @QCIC


    ...the question. What is the least impactful “Ukrainian” attack which might lead to a Russian nuclear response, probably tactical?
     
    Ambiguity is important. It keeps the opponent well away from the "red line". Direct French action against Russia (e.g. Crimea) is obviously over it, and thus highly unlikely despite the madness of Macron's rhetoric.

    Why "tactical"? Many suggest this, but it creates all sorts of risks related to gradual escalation.

    Preempting to "massive strategic" is more sound as a Russian approach. The immediate enemy is gone. And, other countries will vividly grasp the risk & consequences of IslamoGloboHomo misbehaviour.

    PEACE 😇
  471. @Beckow
    @AP


    Napoleon put the full weight of the French people behind him, and was opposed (when he was defeated) by almost all of Europe.

    Hitler started an invasion in which he was fighting against Russians, Ukrainians (90% of them), Brits, French, etc.
     

    What you wrote are lies - because you can't be that ignorant. France attacked Russia in 1812 with support from all of Europe: Germany, Italy, Poland, Dutch-Belgians...only 1/3 of their army was French. AFTER the loss many switched sides, but it was an all-European army attacking Russia - and losing.

    Germany invaded Russia with Italy, Romania, Hungary, Finland, Baltic countries and Western Ukies. France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Norway, etc...also sent troops - "volunteers" and all of Europe was busily arming the Nazis (including Sweden and Switzerland)....again almost all of Europe attacked Russia and lost.

    The posturing about France being against Germany is b..shit that Soviets agreed to in order to split the Western allies - there were more French fighting on the side of Nazis than against - the last holdout in Berlin was the French Charlemagne SS Division.

    This is very similar except the Westies have no balls to actually fight and are using the Ukies. They have no chance to win and your hallucinations about Poland or the Crimean war are just silly. This is a very different Russia and Europe. Pay attention.

    Replies: @AP, @Philip Owen

    Russia was an ally of France for most of the Napoleonic Wars. Tsar Alexander declared himself a keen supporter of republicanism for everywhere wxcept Russia which could only be ruled by a strong Tsar. He attempted to invade India in 1801. Russia never ends up on the right side voluntarily.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Philip Owen

    As you know, which Czar? Paul or Alexander?

    Paul was somewhat pro France at the moment that Austria was allied with Russia fighting against French generals in Italy…and later when Austria was fighting Napoleon directly in the Salo-Venice area.

    Alexander was installed as Czar and promptly fought commanding the army against Napoleon.

    The Austrians, were defeated and then Prussia was overrun then Russia was defeated around Warsaw. The French reinvented Poland as a pro French Dukedom. The Czar sulked a little and made a treaty with France.

    Napoleon reorganized the Austrian and German states integrating them into his Oan European strike on Moscow. Poles, Austrian, Germans, Italians, Spanish, Dutch, Danes, Croats etc went in with France and lost badly.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Philip Owen

    I thought that it was Tsar Paul (Alex's father) who tried to invade India?

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wokechoke

  472. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Big picture, big picture.

    The attacks are probably designed to sow dissent within the halls of Russian power at the same time motivating NATO support for Ukraine (Slava Ukraine, we can win!). If these attacks continue, larger, more valuable targets will be damaged.

    Drones are cheap. In this case defense is more difficult than offense.

    Neither of you answered the question. What is the least impactful "Ukrainian" attack which might lead to a Russian nuclear response, probably tactical? If the West destroyed a Russian nuclear-armed submarine would this do it? Maybe a tit for tat response? What if NATO put a blockade around Kaliningrad? What if the USA put nuclear-armed missiles in Romania and Poland?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @A123

    If Russia in confrontation with the United States explodes nukes we all are goners before discussion gets to the 5 minute mark. Obviously our plan is that this won’t happen.

    This one is pretty good:

    https://www.amazon.com/Thermonuclear-War-Herman-Kahn/dp/141280664X/

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My point is the insane proxy war the West is waging in Ukraine against Russia could be the most dangerous campaign ever, as in the most dangerous of all time. I keep hoping to stir a glimmer of understanding in some of our commenters.

    The real problem is the Ukies and their backers along with apparently 90% of Americans and much of the NATO citizenry do not recognize this danger. When the topic comes up in the media it is framed as Russia threatening the West, when in fact Russia is simply reminding us they will respond if the West continues to attack them.

    The US military has openly discussed the prospect of winnable nuclear war along with useable tactical nukes. I think there is some chance these perspectives are true from a military perspective. But the resulting upheaval for the world will be enormous with vast non-nuclear casualties. To paraphrase General Turgidson, "One to two billion killed, tops! Depending on the breaks."

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  473. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Big picture, big picture.

    The attacks are probably designed to sow dissent within the halls of Russian power at the same time motivating NATO support for Ukraine (Slava Ukraine, we can win!). If these attacks continue, larger, more valuable targets will be damaged.

    Drones are cheap. In this case defense is more difficult than offense.

    Neither of you answered the question. What is the least impactful "Ukrainian" attack which might lead to a Russian nuclear response, probably tactical? If the West destroyed a Russian nuclear-armed submarine would this do it? Maybe a tit for tat response? What if NATO put a blockade around Kaliningrad? What if the USA put nuclear-armed missiles in Romania and Poland?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @A123

    …the question. What is the least impactful “Ukrainian” attack which might lead to a Russian nuclear response, probably tactical?

    Ambiguity is important. It keeps the opponent well away from the “red line”. Direct French action against Russia (e.g. Crimea) is obviously over it, and thus highly unlikely despite the madness of Macron’s rhetoric.

    Why “tactical”? Many suggest this, but it creates all sorts of risks related to gradual escalation.

    Preempting to “massive strategic” is more sound as a Russian approach. The immediate enemy is gone. And, other countries will vividly grasp the risk & consequences of IslamoGloboHomo misbehaviour.

    PEACE 😇

  474. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Artificial wombs are the worst idea ever. There is obviously an essential bio-electrical-chemical connection between the mother and the fetus which technology will not be able to replicate for a very long time. The biggest problem is that most people are too incompetent or stupid to acknowledge the existence of the connection.

    The use of mass media has trained people to be very shallow. Modern prosperity has fostered the feminist project. This combination is highly dysgenic.

    We need a culture which supports voluntary healthy breeding habits. Arranged marriages were an example of this, there must be others.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Artificial wombs are a great way to help combat dysgenics, no?

    Also, what essential bio-electrical-chemical connection are you talking about here? Got any links?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    primum non nocere - First, do no harm!

    I once thought embryo selection was the answer to dysgenic trends. I now assume these reproductive technologies are worse than the "problems" they are supposed to solve. Call it a hunch.

    There are more things in heaven and earth than dreamt of in your philosophy.

    No links, you have to figure it out on your own.

  475. @QCIC
    @LatW

    Panda can go eat bamboo. Sensible people know that China has the least transparent major nuclear arsenal and very likely more than 1000 warheads. No one at Unz has been willing to dig into the "New Great Wall" Chinese nuclear installation.

    Russia knows the West could conceivably polarize China against Russia so the picture is complicated. This gives three way tension for starting a world war over pissant Slav grievances. Great job, morons.

    Replies: @LatW

    Those are just details. The “big picture”, as you yourself like to say, is that this past week Putin threatened with nukes once again (for the umpteenth time), and two other nuclear states responded to this – France and China. Both kindly suggested to him not to escalate. There is a hypothetical scenario where the crazy grandpa is simply not allowed to activate the nukes (either by the nuclear club or by the Russians themselves).

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    The campaign of the West against Russia since 1990 has always had nuclear war as a core element. NATO was formed after the USA nuked Japan. The highest profile NATO topics from 1947 usually relate to nuclear war. The USA made it clear that nuclear issues are still a dominant factor by unilaterally dropping out of the ABM treaty to increase her ability to win a nuclear war. The Russians have clearly stated their intentions to either talk the West out of this nuclear brinksmanship or if that is impossible, to outpace the West with nuclear arms. This has been discussed by Russia repeatedly for several decades in their attempt to defuse Western aggression. The escalation is entirely driven by the West. Russia occasionally points out that the Western approach can lead to real consequences, as Putin did last week. No amount of reminders from Russia are remotely as serious as dropping the nuclear arms control treaties or putting missile sites in Eastern Europe. I believe you are intelligent enough to understand this. Unfortunately you seem to be blinded by a fantasy future driven from your personal history and shaped by propaganda, fear and bloodlust. This is understandable, but sad. You seem to be a reasonable person.

    Putin speaks for adults. Some people around here need to stop pretending they are still children.

    Replies: @LatW

  476. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    If Russia in confrontation with the United States explodes nukes we all are goners before discussion gets to the 5 minute mark. Obviously our plan is that this won't happen.

    This one is pretty good:

    https://www.amazon.com/Thermonuclear-War-Herman-Kahn/dp/141280664X/

    Replies: @QCIC

    My point is the insane proxy war the West is waging in Ukraine against Russia could be the most dangerous campaign ever, as in the most dangerous of all time. I keep hoping to stir a glimmer of understanding in some of our commenters.

    The real problem is the Ukies and their backers along with apparently 90% of Americans and much of the NATO citizenry do not recognize this danger. When the topic comes up in the media it is framed as Russia threatening the West, when in fact Russia is simply reminding us they will respond if the West continues to attack them.

    The US military has openly discussed the prospect of winnable nuclear war along with useable tactical nukes. I think there is some chance these perspectives are true from a military perspective. But the resulting upheaval for the world will be enormous with vast non-nuclear casualties. To paraphrase General Turgidson, “One to two billion killed, tops! Depending on the breaks.”

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    The game theory is not ambiguous. When the nukes commence to flying they all fly and it only stops when they are used up. It's mathematics. This has been known since the 1950's. Stanley Kubrick explained it in layman's terms. It is kind of a mystery that we are still here at all.

    Poking at the Russians is idiotic. Hubris if you want to get fancy. Some jackass advising the joint chiefs maybe thinks we are going to drop a couple rods of god on the Kremlin and cut it off. Nope.

    Kahn's book is not obsolete.

    If you want to be optimistic some Amazon Indians and a few birds and bees will come out on the other side for a do over. It shouldn't be any worse than the meteor that took out the dinosaurs.

    Replies: @A123, @Philip Owen

  477. @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    Artificial wombs are a great way to help combat dysgenics, no?

    Also, what essential bio-electrical-chemical connection are you talking about here? Got any links?

    Replies: @QCIC

    primum non nocere – First, do no harm!

    I once thought embryo selection was the answer to dysgenic trends. I now assume these reproductive technologies are worse than the “problems” they are supposed to solve. Call it a hunch.

    There are more things in heaven and earth than dreamt of in your philosophy.

    No links, you have to figure it out on your own.

  478. @LatW
    @QCIC

    Those are just details. The "big picture", as you yourself like to say, is that this past week Putin threatened with nukes once again (for the umpteenth time), and two other nuclear states responded to this - France and China. Both kindly suggested to him not to escalate. There is a hypothetical scenario where the crazy grandpa is simply not allowed to activate the nukes (either by the nuclear club or by the Russians themselves).

    Replies: @QCIC

    The campaign of the West against Russia since 1990 has always had nuclear war as a core element. NATO was formed after the USA nuked Japan. The highest profile NATO topics from 1947 usually relate to nuclear war. The USA made it clear that nuclear issues are still a dominant factor by unilaterally dropping out of the ABM treaty to increase her ability to win a nuclear war. The Russians have clearly stated their intentions to either talk the West out of this nuclear brinksmanship or if that is impossible, to outpace the West with nuclear arms. This has been discussed by Russia repeatedly for several decades in their attempt to defuse Western aggression. The escalation is entirely driven by the West. Russia occasionally points out that the Western approach can lead to real consequences, as Putin did last week. No amount of reminders from Russia are remotely as serious as dropping the nuclear arms control treaties or putting missile sites in Eastern Europe. I believe you are intelligent enough to understand this. Unfortunately you seem to be blinded by a fantasy future driven from your personal history and shaped by propaganda, fear and bloodlust. This is understandable, but sad. You seem to be a reasonable person.

    Putin speaks for adults. Some people around here need to stop pretending they are still children.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC



    Drop your paternalistic attitude if you ever want to converse with me. Then I'll think about it.

  479. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My point is the insane proxy war the West is waging in Ukraine against Russia could be the most dangerous campaign ever, as in the most dangerous of all time. I keep hoping to stir a glimmer of understanding in some of our commenters.

    The real problem is the Ukies and their backers along with apparently 90% of Americans and much of the NATO citizenry do not recognize this danger. When the topic comes up in the media it is framed as Russia threatening the West, when in fact Russia is simply reminding us they will respond if the West continues to attack them.

    The US military has openly discussed the prospect of winnable nuclear war along with useable tactical nukes. I think there is some chance these perspectives are true from a military perspective. But the resulting upheaval for the world will be enormous with vast non-nuclear casualties. To paraphrase General Turgidson, "One to two billion killed, tops! Depending on the breaks."

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The game theory is not ambiguous. When the nukes commence to flying they all fly and it only stops when they are used up. It’s mathematics. This has been known since the 1950’s. Stanley Kubrick explained it in layman’s terms. It is kind of a mystery that we are still here at all.

    Poking at the Russians is idiotic. Hubris if you want to get fancy. Some jackass advising the joint chiefs maybe thinks we are going to drop a couple rods of god on the Kremlin and cut it off. Nope.

    Kahn’s book is not obsolete.

    If you want to be optimistic some Amazon Indians and a few birds and bees will come out on the other side for a do over. It shouldn’t be any worse than the meteor that took out the dinosaurs.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    The game theory is not ambiguous. When the nukes commence to flying they all fly and it only stops when they are used up.
     
    I mostly concur. However, a more precise reading is "it only stops when one side is eliminated".

    Consider France voiding its Article V protection by going by on offense. Russia would be able to stop its thermonuclear defense once all French nukes are off the table. Similarly, Russia could use a limited number of of strategic warheads to blunt Kiev aggression.

    Grim scenarios are limited to the "Final Four" -- America, Israel, China, and Russia. If two of those powers go head-to-head it could be an planetary extinction event. In this light, the Veggie-In-Chief's support of Hamas is quite distressing.

    PEACE 😇
    , @Philip Owen
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Russia's attacks on Georgia and Ukraine were not idiotic?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  480. @Philip Owen
    @Beckow

    Russia was an ally of France for most of the Napoleonic Wars. Tsar Alexander declared himself a keen supporter of republicanism for everywhere wxcept Russia which could only be ruled by a strong Tsar. He attempted to invade India in 1801. Russia never ends up on the right side voluntarily.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ

    As you know, which Czar? Paul or Alexander?

    Paul was somewhat pro France at the moment that Austria was allied with Russia fighting against French generals in Italy…and later when Austria was fighting Napoleon directly in the Salo-Venice area.

    Alexander was installed as Czar and promptly fought commanding the army against Napoleon.

    The Austrians, were defeated and then Prussia was overrun then Russia was defeated around Warsaw. The French reinvented Poland as a pro French Dukedom. The Czar sulked a little and made a treaty with France.

    Napoleon reorganized the Austrian and German states integrating them into his Oan European strike on Moscow. Poles, Austrian, Germans, Italians, Spanish, Dutch, Danes, Croats etc went in with France and lost badly.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Wokechoke

    Ron Unz needs to extend his updated revised history backwards further. He has only gotten to 1914 so far. Wait until he figures out London bankers organized the French Revolution. It is going to be so much fun I can hardly control my gleeful anticipation.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  481. @Wokechoke
    @Philip Owen

    As you know, which Czar? Paul or Alexander?

    Paul was somewhat pro France at the moment that Austria was allied with Russia fighting against French generals in Italy…and later when Austria was fighting Napoleon directly in the Salo-Venice area.

    Alexander was installed as Czar and promptly fought commanding the army against Napoleon.

    The Austrians, were defeated and then Prussia was overrun then Russia was defeated around Warsaw. The French reinvented Poland as a pro French Dukedom. The Czar sulked a little and made a treaty with France.

    Napoleon reorganized the Austrian and German states integrating them into his Oan European strike on Moscow. Poles, Austrian, Germans, Italians, Spanish, Dutch, Danes, Croats etc went in with France and lost badly.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Ron Unz needs to extend his updated revised history backwards further. He has only gotten to 1914 so far. Wait until he figures out London bankers organized the French Revolution. It is going to be so much fun I can hardly control my gleeful anticipation.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Frankly, Ron Unz should write a very long alternate history about the Russian Empire surviving up to the very end of WWI intact.

  482. @QCIC
    @LatW

    The campaign of the West against Russia since 1990 has always had nuclear war as a core element. NATO was formed after the USA nuked Japan. The highest profile NATO topics from 1947 usually relate to nuclear war. The USA made it clear that nuclear issues are still a dominant factor by unilaterally dropping out of the ABM treaty to increase her ability to win a nuclear war. The Russians have clearly stated their intentions to either talk the West out of this nuclear brinksmanship or if that is impossible, to outpace the West with nuclear arms. This has been discussed by Russia repeatedly for several decades in their attempt to defuse Western aggression. The escalation is entirely driven by the West. Russia occasionally points out that the Western approach can lead to real consequences, as Putin did last week. No amount of reminders from Russia are remotely as serious as dropping the nuclear arms control treaties or putting missile sites in Eastern Europe. I believe you are intelligent enough to understand this. Unfortunately you seem to be blinded by a fantasy future driven from your personal history and shaped by propaganda, fear and bloodlust. This is understandable, but sad. You seem to be a reasonable person.

    Putin speaks for adults. Some people around here need to stop pretending they are still children.

    Replies: @LatW

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    Drop your paternalistic attitude if you ever want to converse with me. Then I’ll think about it.

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  484. @Philip Owen
    @Beckow

    Russia was an ally of France for most of the Napoleonic Wars. Tsar Alexander declared himself a keen supporter of republicanism for everywhere wxcept Russia which could only be ruled by a strong Tsar. He attempted to invade India in 1801. Russia never ends up on the right side voluntarily.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Mr. XYZ

    I thought that it was Tsar Paul (Alex’s father) who tried to invade India?

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. XYZ

    Owen garbles some of the history.

    It’s understood that Paul was deposed by an Anglophile faction in Russia who then installed Alexander.


    However the core of the fight between factions in Russia was more to do with pro and anti PRUSSiAN sentiment.


    Paul was a Frederick The Great Fanboy which unsettled Russian army commanders. As it turned out the Russians and Berlin allied themselves during Alexander’s reign. Fleeing PRUSSIAN staff officers wound up in St Petersburg and Moscow in the Russian command. On War by Clausewitz was largely an account of what Clausewitz saw during his time as a Russian staffer.

    , @Wokechoke
    @Mr. XYZ

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Russian_invasion_of_Holland

    Britain paid for 40,000 Russian troops and used them to occupy Holland in the early part of the French Revolutionary Wars. The Russians of the expedition were temporarily staged in the Isle of Wight. The story is basically deep sixed from modern memory.

    However the song Grand Old Duke of York could have its root in the story of the Anglo-Russian occupation of Holland. The most common attribution is to Prince Frederick, Duke of York and Albany (1763–1827), the second son of King George III and Commander-in-Chief of the British Army during the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars. His most significant field command was during the Flanders Campaign of 1793–94. Despite the British troops having some success against the French, in the summer of 1794 the Duke was obliged to retreat into the Netherlands and he was subsequently recalled to England. Flanders having something of a reputation for being flat, the specific location of the "hill" in the nursery rhyme has been suggested to be the town of Cassel which is built on a hill which rises 176 metres (about 570 feet) above the flat lands of French Flanders in northern France.


    The 10,000 men were Russians.

  485. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Wokechoke

    Ron Unz needs to extend his updated revised history backwards further. He has only gotten to 1914 so far. Wait until he figures out London bankers organized the French Revolution. It is going to be so much fun I can hardly control my gleeful anticipation.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Frankly, Ron Unz should write a very long alternate history about the Russian Empire surviving up to the very end of WWI intact.

  486. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @sudden death

    Donald the Fat is 100% behind the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Some of us do not consider crime palatable. You maybe might enjoy eating the bugs which is their plan for you.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ

    I think that Trump just really, really enjoys licking Bibi’s ass lol!

    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. XYZ

    I found this notice for your SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim event.

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIvw5bFXYAAri0y.jpg
     

    Would you like to admit which Islamic faggot is you?

    Or, do we have to guess?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  487. A123 says: • Website
    @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    The game theory is not ambiguous. When the nukes commence to flying they all fly and it only stops when they are used up. It's mathematics. This has been known since the 1950's. Stanley Kubrick explained it in layman's terms. It is kind of a mystery that we are still here at all.

    Poking at the Russians is idiotic. Hubris if you want to get fancy. Some jackass advising the joint chiefs maybe thinks we are going to drop a couple rods of god on the Kremlin and cut it off. Nope.

    Kahn's book is not obsolete.

    If you want to be optimistic some Amazon Indians and a few birds and bees will come out on the other side for a do over. It shouldn't be any worse than the meteor that took out the dinosaurs.

    Replies: @A123, @Philip Owen

    The game theory is not ambiguous. When the nukes commence to flying they all fly and it only stops when they are used up.

    I mostly concur. However, a more precise reading is “it only stops when one side is eliminated”.

    Consider France voiding its Article V protection by going by on offense. Russia would be able to stop its thermonuclear defense once all French nukes are off the table. Similarly, Russia could use a limited number of of strategic warheads to blunt Kiev aggression.

    Grim scenarios are limited to the “Final Four” — America, Israel, China, and Russia. If two of those powers go head-to-head it could be an planetary extinction event. In this light, the Veggie-In-Chief’s support of Hamas is quite distressing.

    PEACE 😇

  488. @Mr. XYZ
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I think that Trump just really, really enjoys licking Bibi's ass lol!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5LvYkCX4AAqNED.jpg:large

    Replies: @A123

    I found this notice for your SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim event.

     

     

    Would you like to admit which Islamic faggot is you?

    Or, do we have to guess?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    "Christian Caliente" is that you in the bottom left corner kremlinstoogeA123? Rallying your troops to thwart the eventual procurement of weaponry needed by the Ukrainian military?

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/63da9ab814259d4ab8ede482/1707708540703-RY3IGJN5HNV6Z9ZVISLR/IMG_7261-2_1-1.png?format=500w
    Will the real kremlinstoogeA123 please stand up? :-)

  489. Sperm whales have sex specific lice species, which is pretty weird.

    But the males often weigh 3-4x the females, which is a pretty significant dimorphism for a mammal. But not so significant as elephant seals (southern) which is more like 5-6x.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Sperm whales have sex specific lice species, which is pretty weird.
     
    The males swim in colder waters, the females and cubs tend to stay in more temperate waters, maybe that's why? The males have more wrinkles on their skin, probably thicker skin than females. Maybe certain lice species can only attach to thicker skin?

    But the males often weigh 3-4x the females, which is a pretty significant dimorphism for a mammal.
     
    It's pretty extreme. Well, it better be (the environment is kind of extreme). Could it because the older males live separately from the females and younger males?

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

  490. @songbird
    Sperm whales have sex specific lice species, which is pretty weird.

    But the males often weigh 3-4x the females, which is a pretty significant dimorphism for a mammal. But not so significant as elephant seals (southern) which is more like 5-6x.

    Replies: @LatW

    Sperm whales have sex specific lice species, which is pretty weird.

    The males swim in colder waters, the females and cubs tend to stay in more temperate waters, maybe that’s why? The males have more wrinkles on their skin, probably thicker skin than females. Maybe certain lice species can only attach to thicker skin?

    But the males often weigh 3-4x the females, which is a pretty significant dimorphism for a mammal.

    It’s pretty extreme. Well, it better be (the environment is kind of extreme). Could it because the older males live separately from the females and younger males?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    The males swim in colder waters, the females and cubs tend to stay in more temperate waters, maybe that’s why?
     
    Yeah, this latitudinal sex segregation seems pretty unique in terms of the distances involved.

    Latitude seems to have a pretty big influence on human parasites, so would be my first attempt at explanation. And probably the core of it.

    I think another, related factor might possibly be the differing time frame at which they sexually mature. Probably the male could theoretically mate at a young age, but he has to build up all that mass, which takes like ten more years.

    And then the males fight each other with this great mass, spreading the lice.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @songbird
    @LatW

    BTW, they found some humpback lice on a right whale calf that had beached, which they think means that it was being raised by humpbacks.

  491. A must watch video of a desperate Nepalese man that took a contract from Russia:

    I wouldn’t even call him a soldier. He looks like a scared 18 year old.

    Not sure how anyone can watch that video and still support Russia.

    Putin is duping third worlders into dying in trenches for him.

    What a guy. A real midget of the ages.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    Not sure how anyone can watch that video and still support Russia.
     
    It's the kind of stuff that keeps fueling our loyal kremlin stooge base at this website. They're indeed a bizarre creepy gang of misfits.
  492. @QCIC
    @LatW

    Russia is a large country with many juicy civilian targets. The larger targets may have some protection against drones, but even this can only be partially effective. There are many technical approaches to protect more targets and protect them well, but these measures take time and money. New threats will evolve almost as fast as countermeasures are fielded.

    It is important to remember that in the West the long-standing policy is not to protect valuable targets at all, but simply to attack any potential threats preemptively far away from home. Stripped of context this sounds good but inherently requires lies and subterfuge to justify the preemptive attacks. This pattern is very corrosive to society. Peaceful coexistence buttressed by sincere treaties is a much better plan, but is not the way of the bully.

    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets. If this is a real war, I think Russia will be obligated to take more drastic measures against Ukraine. At this point most people in the world will not be surprised. Russia now has clear and present justification for preemptive strikes.

    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?

    I think a major attack on Moscow or St. Petersburg could trigger a nuclear response. However, the purpose of the weapons is to protect these iconic cities, not to avenge them. Therefore the threshold for nuclear response has to be significantly lower than a major attack on these cities. The idea is that a draconian response could cause a reset of the Western strategy before it is too late. However, the number of additional steps of escalation available to the West and their Ukie proxy pawns before reaching the Russian nuclear threshold is gradually shrinking. The West is pushing Russia into the position where preemptive nuclear strikes are the least risky option. Assuming again that this is a real war, then it seems Russia is simply preparing for the worst as long as possible.

    Replies: @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

    The West is pushing Russia into the position where preemptive nuclear strikes are the least risky option. Assuming again that this is a real war, then it seems Russia is simply preparing for the worst as long as possible.

    The best way to de-escalate would be to accept the UN 143-5 decision that Russia is the unjust aggressor and needs to return to their borders.

    At current rates Ukraine is on track to take out the rest of their Western oil refineries. They actually have a good chance of spiking Russian gas prices and cutting their oil profit.

    “I could take Kiev in 2 weeks if I wanted to”

    – Putin in 2014

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  493. @LatW
    @songbird


    Sperm whales have sex specific lice species, which is pretty weird.
     
    The males swim in colder waters, the females and cubs tend to stay in more temperate waters, maybe that's why? The males have more wrinkles on their skin, probably thicker skin than females. Maybe certain lice species can only attach to thicker skin?

    But the males often weigh 3-4x the females, which is a pretty significant dimorphism for a mammal.
     
    It's pretty extreme. Well, it better be (the environment is kind of extreme). Could it because the older males live separately from the females and younger males?

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    The males swim in colder waters, the females and cubs tend to stay in more temperate waters, maybe that’s why?

    Yeah, this latitudinal sex segregation seems pretty unique in terms of the distances involved.

    Latitude seems to have a pretty big influence on human parasites, so would be my first attempt at explanation. And probably the core of it.

    I think another, related factor might possibly be the differing time frame at which they sexually mature. Probably the male could theoretically mate at a young age, but he has to build up all that mass, which takes like ten more years.

    And then the males fight each other with this great mass, spreading the lice.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Yeah, this latitudinal sex segregation seems pretty unique in terms of the distances involved.
     
    They are separated most of the time, the adult males don't typically hang out with females. lol

    But they can communicate from a long distance. And they can be super loud.

    Probably the male could theoretically mate at a young age, but he has to build up all that mass, which takes like ten more years.
     

    I think he needs mass to make those loud mating sounds, too. Yea, the calves can nurse for many years. I can only imagine how much milk the mother produces and how fatty it is. Or the amount of calories it requires. I guess the bigger the animal, the higher maintenance it is.

    Didn't know they slept vertically... a bit eerie but very serene looking.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tgxkmJlJ2g8

    Replies: @songbird

  494. @LatW
    @songbird


    Sperm whales have sex specific lice species, which is pretty weird.
     
    The males swim in colder waters, the females and cubs tend to stay in more temperate waters, maybe that's why? The males have more wrinkles on their skin, probably thicker skin than females. Maybe certain lice species can only attach to thicker skin?

    But the males often weigh 3-4x the females, which is a pretty significant dimorphism for a mammal.
     
    It's pretty extreme. Well, it better be (the environment is kind of extreme). Could it because the older males live separately from the females and younger males?

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird

    BTW, they found some humpback lice on a right whale calf that had beached, which they think means that it was being raised by humpbacks.

  495. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Yes, and African-Americans certainly belong here both because of this and also because of everything that they and their ancestors have endured in the past.
     
    I don't think Dominicans belong here and they are far more European on average and probably somewhat less badly behaved.

    Amusingly, this Euro blood quantum argument is an old one by progressives (HG Wells invoked it, I believe contrasting the alienness of the non-English European immigrant, to the English-descended black, almost while denouncing some anarchist being placed in a mostly black prison.) but I think not at all a very good one, since we have seen the result of radical universalism and it is not good. (BTW, I have seen very few blacks invoke shared blood - maybe, loyalty should be extended to those but not the others?)

    If anything, I think the DNA argument would go the other way: with the greater portion being more deterministic, and blacks being resettled in blacker areas. With mulattoes perhaps being given special consideration and given their own area.

    The ancestors of blacks in America experienced slavery only for a very short time. A large portion probably came after the Atlantic slave trade was outlawed.

    The historical argument would be to place them within certain counties in the South, with strong segregation and vigilante justice.

    But I think you could could say we already ran that experiment and inevitably it led to desegregation and ultimately to the complete villainization of Europeans.

    So personally I would like to try something different.

    I think the moral argument would be not based on some hard to quantify past suffering (American slaves actually were better fed that most Africans and this is reflected in bones). But rather on minimizing future suffering.

    Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have extremely massive immigration and yet don’t have a consistently chronic inflation problem, do they?
     
    Have you tried to buy a house in Toronto or Auckland lately? Maybe, the price of eggs hasn't risen too much, but try buying a house to live in.

    Whiteness needs to be something that people are once again proud of, like in Latin America, I suppose.
     
    Brazil actually has a surprisingly similar culture to the US, IMO. (In a negative way) Venezuela was recently destroyed by demographics. (Look at pics of Chavez). The Southern cone appears to have runaway immigration. I'm not sure Euro identity is strong there as a political force anymore.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I don’t think Dominicans belong here and they are far more European on average and probably somewhat less badly behaved.

    Are they really worse than Mexicans are?

    [MORE]

    Amusingly, this Euro blood quantum argument is an old one by progressives (HG Wells invoked it, I believe contrasting the alienness of the non-English European immigrant, to the English-descended black, almost while denouncing some anarchist being placed in a mostly black prison.) but I think not at all a very good one, since we have seen the result of radical universalism and it is not good. (BTW, I have seen very few blacks invoke shared blood – maybe, loyalty should be extended to those but not the others?)

    If you want to apply that logic, go ahead. I won’t necessarily oppose it. As in, viewing this from the prism of just how closely connected to whiteness people of partial white descent are actually are in terms of their mentality and self-identification. Of course, people without any white descent should have the opportunity to become honorary whites if they will also identify with white people and/or the West (as in apartheid South Africa in the past, though I loathe the apartheid model in general; South Africa could have used more race realism post-apartheid, though).

    If anything, I think the DNA argument would go the other way: with the greater portion being more deterministic, and blacks being resettled in blacker areas. With mulattoes perhaps being given special consideration and given their own area.

    But people don’t always associate with the majority of their ancestry. I am 3/4 East Slavic and 1/4 Jewish and yet identify more with my Jewish ancestry due to me spending the first 8.5+ years of my life in Israel and me being born there. (A lot of other Israelis of ex-USSR descent very likely feel similarly about this.) Similarly, due to the one-drop rule, people of color in the US, at least before the start of the Civil Rights Movement, could have occasionally had a majority of white ancestry but were still forced to identify as people of color, unlike in Latin America.

    The ancestors of blacks in America experienced slavery only for a very short time. A large portion probably came after the Atlantic slave trade was outlawed.

    But they also had to suffer from a century of Jim Crow afterwards (and racially restrictive covenants plus redlining in the Northern US in the early 20th century).

    The historical argument would be to place them within certain counties in the South, with strong segregation and vigilante justice.

    But I think you could could say we already ran that experiment and inevitably it led to desegregation and ultimately to the complete villainization of Europeans.

    The US’s policy on crime was relatively decent (perhaps the punishments for some non-violent crimes being too tough, though) before 2012 or so, when BLM really took off. You don’t need Jim Crow to have a decent tough-on-crime policy. Michael Bloomberg in New York City did a great job with his stop-and-frisk program. If doing this was necessary to save (more) lives (including minority lives), then I would have personally upheld its constitutionality if I was a judge in spite of its racial profiling.

    So personally I would like to try something different.

    I think the moral argument would be not based on some hard to quantify past suffering (American slaves actually were better fed that most Africans and this is reflected in bones). But rather on minimizing future suffering.

    What about Robert Stark’s pan-enclavism model here in the US?

    https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism

    Have you tried to buy a house in Toronto or Auckland lately? Maybe, the price of eggs hasn’t risen too much, but try buying a house to live in.

    Well, they should build much more housing to keep up with the demand for it.

    Brazil actually has a surprisingly similar culture to the US, IMO. (In a negative way) Venezuela was recently destroyed by demographics. (Look at pics of Chavez). The Southern cone appears to have runaway immigration. I’m not sure Euro identity is strong there as a political force anymore.

    Venezuela was destroyed more by socialism than by demographics, no? And the US’s smart fraction is probably something like ten times larger than Brazil’s is. Brazil’s top 5% smartest people/students have an average IQ of around 100. Here in the US, it’s around 121. Over a standard deviation higher! Absolutely no comparison!

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Are they really worse than Mexicans are?
     
    during WW2, Trujillo offered like 130,000 visas for single Jews to move to DR. Very few took him up on his offer. For those who did, it was primarily a stepping stone to the US. There are maybe under a dozen families with some Jewish descent today.

    have never seen a non-obese Dominican in the US. With Mexicans, you sometimes (rarely) get a Paterfamilias vibe, but not with Dominicans. Thought they were seen as a violent group around NYC, when they arrived.

    But they also had to suffer from a century of Jim Crow afterwards (and racially restrictive covenants plus redlining in the Northern US in the early 20th century).
     
    isn't that just woke rhetoric?

    Not "redlining" resulted in the 2008 housing collapse. It made houses unaffordable how did they suffer from covenants? Covenants applied against Jews and they materially prospered.

    Black democracy hasn't been a success and is a joke, as blacks are block voters. The black congressional caucus wouldn't stand much scrutiny. Remember that guy who had money in his freezer and the media were making excuses for him about blacks not trusting banks.

    You don’t need Jim Crow to have a decent tough-on-crime policy. Michael Bloomberg in New York City did a great job with his stop-and-frisk program.
     
    The US spends an astronomical amount on policing. New York jails spend like $1 million/prisoner/year. And police become a tool for enforcing woke. I think it would be a much better society without these extra outlays.

    The US is a rich society, but much of the wealth is frittered into wasteful, dead ends. Crime is heritable.

    Well, they should build much more housing to keep up with the demand for it.
     
    There is a limit to how much can be built. In the UK a lot of the green spaces are being developed.

    The question is: how does open borders benefit Europeans? The answer is pretty clearly that it doesn't. The perception isn't there that it benefits them.

    So, whose interests are you advocating for, when you advocate for it? And why elevate them above the interests of the natives?

    Brazil’s top 5% smartest people/students have an average IQ of around 100. Here in the US, it’s around 121. Over a standard deviation higher! Absolutely no comparison!
     
    Culture and political world is very similar. They have their own version of AA now. Blacks are often depicted improbably as the smart ones in film. Racism is seen as bad.

    Doesn't the US IQ mean get rebalanced as time passes? From what I hear, many of the new groups aren't functionally much smarter than the places that they come from. They have a great deal of trouble understanding directions. US mean IQ is definitely falling in absolute terms.

    Brazil is not a place to emulate by having open borders.

    What about Robert Stark’s pan-enclavism model here in the US?

     

    I would prefer some kind of localism, but I don't think he really does a good job articulating it.

    But I think enclaves would be a better model model of multiculturalism. They could be a way of getting foreign investment into African countries. (With a mutual system of benefit.). And they can be scaled or designated in a way that it wouldn't result in fears of domination.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  496. @songbird
    @LatW


    The males swim in colder waters, the females and cubs tend to stay in more temperate waters, maybe that’s why?
     
    Yeah, this latitudinal sex segregation seems pretty unique in terms of the distances involved.

    Latitude seems to have a pretty big influence on human parasites, so would be my first attempt at explanation. And probably the core of it.

    I think another, related factor might possibly be the differing time frame at which they sexually mature. Probably the male could theoretically mate at a young age, but he has to build up all that mass, which takes like ten more years.

    And then the males fight each other with this great mass, spreading the lice.

    Replies: @LatW

    Yeah, this latitudinal sex segregation seems pretty unique in terms of the distances involved.

    They are separated most of the time, the adult males don’t typically hang out with females. lol

    But they can communicate from a long distance. And they can be super loud.

    [MORE]

    Probably the male could theoretically mate at a young age, but he has to build up all that mass, which takes like ten more years.

    I think he needs mass to make those loud mating sounds, too. Yea, the calves can nurse for many years. I can only imagine how much milk the mother produces and how fatty it is. Or the amount of calories it requires. I guess the bigger the animal, the higher maintenance it is.

    Didn’t know they slept vertically… a bit eerie but very serene looking.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tgxkmJlJ2g8

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    Sperm whales are such weird animals.

    They only sleep for a cumulative 1.7 hours a day, which doesn't seem to suggest a great intelligence. Though I have heard some theorize sleep is more about avoiding predators (not a problem for giants) and energy conservation than anything else. Maybe, the power naps are enough for sperm whales, if they are built that way.

    I myself feel very susceptible to position changes, as regards sleep.

    Bottlenose and orcas have unihemispherical sleep (one side of their brain sleeps at a time.). Have heard it said that orca mothers and newborns don't sleep for the first month or two, which seems hard to believe.

  497. @QCIC
    @LatW

    Russia is a large country with many juicy civilian targets. The larger targets may have some protection against drones, but even this can only be partially effective. There are many technical approaches to protect more targets and protect them well, but these measures take time and money. New threats will evolve almost as fast as countermeasures are fielded.

    It is important to remember that in the West the long-standing policy is not to protect valuable targets at all, but simply to attack any potential threats preemptively far away from home. Stripped of context this sounds good but inherently requires lies and subterfuge to justify the preemptive attacks. This pattern is very corrosive to society. Peaceful coexistence buttressed by sincere treaties is a much better plan, but is not the way of the bully.

    The West is playing an extremely dangerous game by fostering, promoting and probably participating in this campaign against Russian civilian targets. If this is a real war, I think Russia will be obligated to take more drastic measures against Ukraine. At this point most people in the world will not be surprised. Russia now has clear and present justification for preemptive strikes.

    A question for the Ukies and fellow travelers: what is the threshold for Russian use of nuclear weapons?

    I think a major attack on Moscow or St. Petersburg could trigger a nuclear response. However, the purpose of the weapons is to protect these iconic cities, not to avenge them. Therefore the threshold for nuclear response has to be significantly lower than a major attack on these cities. The idea is that a draconian response could cause a reset of the Western strategy before it is too late. However, the number of additional steps of escalation available to the West and their Ukie proxy pawns before reaching the Russian nuclear threshold is gradually shrinking. The West is pushing Russia into the position where preemptive nuclear strikes are the least risky option. Assuming again that this is a real war, then it seems Russia is simply preparing for the worst as long as possible.

    Replies: @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson, @Mikhail

  498. @Mr. XYZ
    @Philip Owen

    I thought that it was Tsar Paul (Alex's father) who tried to invade India?

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wokechoke

    Owen garbles some of the history.

    It’s understood that Paul was deposed by an Anglophile faction in Russia who then installed Alexander.

    However the core of the fight between factions in Russia was more to do with pro and anti PRUSSiAN sentiment.

    Paul was a Frederick The Great Fanboy which unsettled Russian army commanders. As it turned out the Russians and Berlin allied themselves during Alexander’s reign. Fleeing PRUSSIAN staff officers wound up in St Petersburg and Moscow in the Russian command. On War by Clausewitz was largely an account of what Clausewitz saw during his time as a Russian staffer.

  499. @Mr. XYZ
    @Philip Owen

    I thought that it was Tsar Paul (Alex's father) who tried to invade India?

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Wokechoke

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Russian_invasion_of_Holland

    Britain paid for 40,000 Russian troops and used them to occupy Holland in the early part of the French Revolutionary Wars. The Russians of the expedition were temporarily staged in the Isle of Wight. The story is basically deep sixed from modern memory.

    However the song Grand Old Duke of York could have its root in the story of the Anglo-Russian occupation of Holland. The most common attribution is to Prince Frederick, Duke of York and Albany (1763–1827), the second son of King George III and Commander-in-Chief of the British Army during the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars. His most significant field command was during the Flanders Campaign of 1793–94. Despite the British troops having some success against the French, in the summer of 1794 the Duke was obliged to retreat into the Netherlands and he was subsequently recalled to England. Flanders having something of a reputation for being flat, the specific location of the “hill” in the nursery rhyme has been suggested to be the town of Cassel which is built on a hill which rises 176 metres (about 570 feet) above the flat lands of French Flanders in northern France.

    The 10,000 men were Russians.

  500. The 10,000 men were Russians.

    There was a book about it published a few years ago:

    https://www.helion.co.uk/military-history-books/the-secret-expedition-the-anglo-russian-invasion-of-holland-1799.php?sid=ca97173701d2acc3772672689c64119f

    How many of the campaigns and battles of the French Revolutionary Wars are remembered in Britain today?

    More than 10,000 of the allied troops in that 1799 expedition were British afaik.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Coconuts

    What I’m saying is that the last campaign of the Duke of York contained a massive contingent of Russian troops. It ended with 40,000 Russians landed in the Isle of Wight after the campaign was wound down.

    Would have been a very interesting campaign to cover in a movie like Ridley Scott’s Napoleon. Even though he wasn’t there the sight of Tommy and Ivan fighting Piet and Pierre in Amsterdam would have been a hoot. It was mentioned in passing by Napoleon as an abomination up north.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  501. @songbird
    @Matra


    Doyle’ was the surname of a number of prominent Ulster Loyalist terrorists in the 1970s.

     

    The deep origin of the surname Doyle is not well documented. There is some speculation that it could have a Scottish origin, within Northern Ireland.

    Whatever the case, I suppose his wives were probably English and Scottish. And the genetic distance was likely fairly low, at that point, though I wonder what it would have been before the industrial revolution and various historical points.

    In some way, American blacks are like the Africans of the far-distant-perhaps-never-to-be future, as they are a mix from different sources in Africa. The kind that might occur naturally, if there was greater infrastructure and cultural integration.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    And the genetic distance was likely fairly low, at that point, though I wonder what it would have been before the industrial revolution and various historical points.

    On his YouTube I remember hearing SurvivetheJive saying that the Irish were still mostly descended from the original Bell Beaker people who migrated around the 2100 BC period.

    The Scottish in the North and West of Scotland are supposed to be similar. But further south in England there were significant later migrations from the continent, one from France around 1200 BC, then the Anglo-Saxons.

    When they go more deeply into the genetics of the Anglo-Saxons it looks like they had more French input than previously thought, also that they remained more Celtic. I think apart from some areas in the south-east of England, the Germanic contribution is between 50-20%.

    This looks different to the image of the later 19th century say, where Anglo-Saxons tended to be thought of as mainly Germanic in origin.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts


    Irish were still mostly descended from the original Bell Beaker people who migrated around the 2100 BC period.
     
    I think it is probably closer to 2500 BC. Seems staggeringly ancient compared to a place like Japan. (~70% replacement after about 150 AD) But maybe not compared to the Andaman Islands or several other peoples like Amerinds or Abos.)

    one from France around 1200 BC,
     
    This was a relatively recent discovery from after the initial Reich papers. I kept waiting for them to find something similar about Ireland but it never happened. But have never heard anyone comment about it to say whether it has definitely been disproven or not.

    Some believe that it was the Roman pullout that created the opportunity for the Anglo-Saxons, (I.e., maybe it would not have happened, if the Romans hadn't disrupted native systems.) But I wonder if it wasn't more purely geodeterminism. The terrain. That might explain the earlier invasion.

    Still I wonder if the Celts from Britain may have instituted some lesser invasion of Ireland, kind of like the Normans. I think Jive suggested that some of Norman French may have been somewhat Celtic but it was more suggestive and they haven't really dug up a specific Norman graveyard.

    But altogether NW Europe is a pretty small, homogeneous (or was) circle compared to many other parts of the world.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  502. @A123
    @Mr. XYZ

    I found this notice for your SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim event.

     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIvw5bFXYAAri0y.jpg
     

    Would you like to admit which Islamic faggot is you?

    Or, do we have to guess?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    “Christian Caliente” is that you in the bottom left corner kremlinstoogeA123? Rallying your troops to thwart the eventual procurement of weaponry needed by the Ukrainian military?
    Will the real kremlinstoogeA123 please stand up? 🙂

  503. @John Johnson
    A must watch video of a desperate Nepalese man that took a contract from Russia:

    https://youtu.be/QZ6Up7PNyAI?t=400

    I wouldn't even call him a soldier. He looks like a scared 18 year old.

    Not sure how anyone can watch that video and still support Russia.

    Putin is duping third worlders into dying in trenches for him.

    What a guy. A real midget of the ages.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Not sure how anyone can watch that video and still support Russia.

    It’s the kind of stuff that keeps fueling our loyal kremlin stooge base at this website. They’re indeed a bizarre creepy gang of misfits.

  504. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    I don’t think Dominicans belong here and they are far more European on average and probably somewhat less badly behaved.

     

    Are they really worse than Mexicans are?


    Amusingly, this Euro blood quantum argument is an old one by progressives (HG Wells invoked it, I believe contrasting the alienness of the non-English European immigrant, to the English-descended black, almost while denouncing some anarchist being placed in a mostly black prison.) but I think not at all a very good one, since we have seen the result of radical universalism and it is not good. (BTW, I have seen very few blacks invoke shared blood – maybe, loyalty should be extended to those but not the others?)
     
    If you want to apply that logic, go ahead. I won't necessarily oppose it. As in, viewing this from the prism of just how closely connected to whiteness people of partial white descent are actually are in terms of their mentality and self-identification. Of course, people without any white descent should have the opportunity to become honorary whites if they will also identify with white people and/or the West (as in apartheid South Africa in the past, though I loathe the apartheid model in general; South Africa could have used more race realism post-apartheid, though).

    If anything, I think the DNA argument would go the other way: with the greater portion being more deterministic, and blacks being resettled in blacker areas. With mulattoes perhaps being given special consideration and given their own area.
     
    But people don't always associate with the majority of their ancestry. I am 3/4 East Slavic and 1/4 Jewish and yet identify more with my Jewish ancestry due to me spending the first 8.5+ years of my life in Israel and me being born there. (A lot of other Israelis of ex-USSR descent very likely feel similarly about this.) Similarly, due to the one-drop rule, people of color in the US, at least before the start of the Civil Rights Movement, could have occasionally had a majority of white ancestry but were still forced to identify as people of color, unlike in Latin America.

    The ancestors of blacks in America experienced slavery only for a very short time. A large portion probably came after the Atlantic slave trade was outlawed.
     
    But they also had to suffer from a century of Jim Crow afterwards (and racially restrictive covenants plus redlining in the Northern US in the early 20th century).

    The historical argument would be to place them within certain counties in the South, with strong segregation and vigilante justice.

    But I think you could could say we already ran that experiment and inevitably it led to desegregation and ultimately to the complete villainization of Europeans.
     
    The US's policy on crime was relatively decent (perhaps the punishments for some non-violent crimes being too tough, though) before 2012 or so, when BLM really took off. You don't need Jim Crow to have a decent tough-on-crime policy. Michael Bloomberg in New York City did a great job with his stop-and-frisk program. If doing this was necessary to save (more) lives (including minority lives), then I would have personally upheld its constitutionality if I was a judge in spite of its racial profiling.

    So personally I would like to try something different.

    I think the moral argument would be not based on some hard to quantify past suffering (American slaves actually were better fed that most Africans and this is reflected in bones). But rather on minimizing future suffering.
     
    What about Robert Stark's pan-enclavism model here in the US?

    https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism

    Have you tried to buy a house in Toronto or Auckland lately? Maybe, the price of eggs hasn’t risen too much, but try buying a house to live in.
     
    Well, they should build much more housing to keep up with the demand for it.

    Brazil actually has a surprisingly similar culture to the US, IMO. (In a negative way) Venezuela was recently destroyed by demographics. (Look at pics of Chavez). The Southern cone appears to have runaway immigration. I’m not sure Euro identity is strong there as a political force anymore.

     

    Venezuela was destroyed more by socialism than by demographics, no? And the US's smart fraction is probably something like ten times larger than Brazil's is. Brazil's top 5% smartest people/students have an average IQ of around 100. Here in the US, it's around 121. Over a standard deviation higher! Absolutely no comparison!

    Replies: @songbird

    Are they really worse than Mexicans are?

    during WW2, Trujillo offered like 130,000 visas for single Jews to move to DR. Very few took him up on his offer. For those who did, it was primarily a stepping stone to the US. There are maybe under a dozen families with some Jewish descent today.

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    have never seen a non-obese Dominican in the US. With Mexicans, you sometimes (rarely) get a Paterfamilias vibe, but not with Dominicans. Thought they were seen as a violent group around NYC, when they arrived.

    But they also had to suffer from a century of Jim Crow afterwards (and racially restrictive covenants plus redlining in the Northern US in the early 20th century).

    isn’t that just woke rhetoric?

    Not “redlining” resulted in the 2008 housing collapse. It made houses unaffordable how did they suffer from covenants? Covenants applied against Jews and they materially prospered.

    Black democracy hasn’t been a success and is a joke, as blacks are block voters. The black congressional caucus wouldn’t stand much scrutiny. Remember that guy who had money in his freezer and the media were making excuses for him about blacks not trusting banks.

    You don’t need Jim Crow to have a decent tough-on-crime policy. Michael Bloomberg in New York City did a great job with his stop-and-frisk program.

    The US spends an astronomical amount on policing. New York jails spend like $1 million/prisoner/year. And police become a tool for enforcing woke. I think it would be a much better society without these extra outlays.

    The US is a rich society, but much of the wealth is frittered into wasteful, dead ends. Crime is heritable.

    Well, they should build much more housing to keep up with the demand for it.

    There is a limit to how much can be built. In the UK a lot of the green spaces are being developed.

    The question is: how does open borders benefit Europeans? The answer is pretty clearly that it doesn’t. The perception isn’t there that it benefits them.

    So, whose interests are you advocating for, when you advocate for it? And why elevate them above the interests of the natives?

    Brazil’s top 5% smartest people/students have an average IQ of around 100. Here in the US, it’s around 121. Over a standard deviation higher! Absolutely no comparison!

    Culture and political world is very similar. They have their own version of AA now. Blacks are often depicted improbably as the smart ones in film. Racism is seen as bad.

    Doesn’t the US IQ mean get rebalanced as time passes? From what I hear, many of the new groups aren’t functionally much smarter than the places that they come from. They have a great deal of trouble understanding directions. US mean IQ is definitely falling in absolute terms.

    Brazil is not a place to emulate by having open borders.

    What about Robert Stark’s pan-enclavism model here in the US?

    I would prefer some kind of localism, but I don’t think he really does a good job articulating it.

    But I think enclaves would be a better model model of multiculturalism. They could be a way of getting foreign investment into African countries. (With a mutual system of benefit.). And they can be scaled or designated in a way that it wouldn’t result in fears of domination.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    during WW2, Trujillo offered like 130,000 visas for single Jews to move to DR. Very few took him up on his offer. For those who did, it was primarily a stepping stone to the US. There are maybe under a dozen families with some Jewish descent today.
     
    Jews with families were not allowed to take him up on his offer?

    Anyway, I suspect that many more European Jews would have took him up on his offer had they actually been able to foresee that the Nazis would mass murder almost all of them. They expected discrimination, pogroms, ghettoization, anti-miscegenation laws, but not that. Not on a scale quite literally 1,000 times worse than what the Jim Crow Southern US did to its own blacks.


    have never seen a non-obese Dominican in the US. With Mexicans, you sometimes (rarely) get a Paterfamilias vibe, but not with Dominicans. Thought they were seen as a violent group around NYC, when they arrived.

     

    I'm not an expert on either NYC or Dominicans, so I can't comment on that. Weren't Italians also seen as a violent group around NYC when they arrived, though? They had a very serious mafia problem for decades, after all.

    isn’t that just woke rhetoric?

    Not “redlining” resulted in the 2008 housing collapse. It made houses unaffordable how did they suffer from covenants? Covenants applied against Jews and they materially prospered.
     
    I don't mean giving out loans to unqualified people, but simply not prohibiting people from living in certain areas due to their race. And Yes, Jews flourished in spite of racially restrictive housing covenants because they were able to create good neighborhoods from scratch, which the African-American Talented Tenth could not do because they had to deal with too many ghetto underclass blacks next door. So, they wanted to live in the much nicer white neighborhoods instead.

    Of course, the abolition of racially restrictive covenants was not an unequivocal blessing either. Northern US cities turned into dumps, which in turn facilitated white flight and later black Talented Tenth flight as well, which in turn made these cities even dumpier than they previously were. I don't like racially restrictive covenants and am glad that they don't exist, but I wonder if some kind of managed integration would have been much better in regards to this. It likely would have, most likely. Almost certainly, in fact.

    I obviously think that desegregation was a good thing but I think that certain issues, such as chronic black crime, make full integration both extremely difficult and undesirable to achieve, which is why I'm glad that a lot of US cities are mostly racially segregated in terms of their housing patterns (non-blacks don't want to live next to a lot of black crime, other than perhaps white gentrifiers) but at the same time also very glad that the law does not prohibit anyone from living in any part of the country, especially due to their race.

    Black democracy hasn’t been a success and is a joke, as blacks are block voters. The black congressional caucus wouldn’t stand much scrutiny. Remember that guy who had money in his freezer and the media were making excuses for him about blacks not trusting banks.
     
    Yes, unfortunately black and likely Hispanic US politicians are probably--perhaps very likely--more corrupt than US white and Asian politicians are. It's a huge shame and it's likely a function of average IQ differences. It's a good idea to keep the country smart enough to prevent corruption from getting out of control. Israel is somewhat similar in this regard, only a bit worse. Israel's old liberal Ashkenazi Jewish elite probably isn't that fond of stealing (though there are exceptions, such as Ehud Olmert), but ex-USSR Jews, Mizrahim, and religious Jews (such as the Ultra-Orthodox: ex: Aryeh Deri) are probably on average more fond of stealing. The ex-USSR Jews might be smart enough to eventually grow out of this habit, though, especially now that their political leadership has moved leftwards.

    The US spends an astronomical amount on policing. New York jails spend like $1 million/prisoner/year. And police become a tool for enforcing woke. I think it would be a much better society without these extra outlays.

    The US is a rich society, but much of the wealth is frittered into wasteful, dead ends. Crime is heritable.
     
    What about providing gene therapy for criminals long-term in exchange for reduced sentences that would allow criminals to reduce their criminal urges? They would have to constantly take this therapy to ensure that they would not relapse into old habits and be jailed if they refuse since consistently taking this therapy would be a condition for early release on probation for them.

    There is a limit to how much can be built. In the UK a lot of the green spaces are being developed.

    The question is: how does open borders benefit Europeans? The answer is pretty clearly that it doesn’t. The perception isn’t there that it benefits them.

    So, whose interests are you advocating for, when you advocate for it? And why elevate them above the interests of the natives?
     
    Well, I think that open borders for smart people would make Europe and the West stronger by giving the EU and the West more smart people to work with. But Yeah, for duller people, open borders mostly benefits them rather than Europeans. They could be exceptions: The Indian/Latin American nanny which allows more Western women to enter the workforce, for instance. But I'm mostly focusing on the benefits to the immigrants themselves. I don't want the West to become a dump, though, which is why I'm extremely wary of Muslim and African immigration. I would make an exception for liberal and progressive Muslims who want to reform their religion but can't do so back at home in their own countries due to the extremely high risk of them getting jailed and/or murdered for this, though. A much more liberal Islam would certainly benefit all of humanity, as would the spread of a much more liberal Christianity into Sub-Saharan Africa.

    If one only wanted to preserve the interests of Europeans, though, then one should only accept the smart immigrants or perhaps accept no one at all and be like Japan in the old days. Or only accept other European immigrants. Though there would still be the question of people of mixed European descent. Again, Israel accepts people who are 25+% Jewish and their immediate family members. Maybe Europe should do the same for Europeans, provided that they actually identify with Europe, European culture, and/or the West?

    Culture and political world is very similar. They have their own version of AA now. Blacks are often depicted improbably as the smart ones in film. Racism is seen as bad.

    Doesn’t the US IQ mean get rebalanced as time passes? From what I hear, many of the new groups aren’t functionally much smarter than the places that they come from. They have a great deal of trouble understanding directions. US mean IQ is definitely falling in absolute terms.

    Brazil is not a place to emulate by having open borders.
     
    The US still absorbs an extremely massive number of cognitively elitist immigrants from outside of the Western Hemisphere:

    https://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-09-26-braindrain/immigration.html

    https://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-09-26-braindrain/images/1.png

    It can likely absorb many more of them if there will ever actually be the political will to do so. Just make sure to settle them in places where a lot of new housing can be built, like Texas.

    I would prefer some kind of localism, but I don’t think he really does a good job articulating it.

    But I think enclaves would be a better model model of multiculturalism. They could be a way of getting foreign investment into African countries. (With a mutual system of benefit.). And they can be scaled or designated in a way that it wouldn’t result in fears of domination.
     
    I'm all in favor of white enclaves in the developing world, possibly even self-ruled ones, but this would require white fertility in the West to massively go back up so that the white world will once again have plenty of extra people to spare, as it had during the Industrial Revolution, when tens of millions of white people moved from Europe to the Americas.

    Replies: @songbird, @Coconuts

  505. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    The game theory is not ambiguous. When the nukes commence to flying they all fly and it only stops when they are used up. It's mathematics. This has been known since the 1950's. Stanley Kubrick explained it in layman's terms. It is kind of a mystery that we are still here at all.

    Poking at the Russians is idiotic. Hubris if you want to get fancy. Some jackass advising the joint chiefs maybe thinks we are going to drop a couple rods of god on the Kremlin and cut it off. Nope.

    Kahn's book is not obsolete.

    If you want to be optimistic some Amazon Indians and a few birds and bees will come out on the other side for a do over. It shouldn't be any worse than the meteor that took out the dinosaurs.

    Replies: @A123, @Philip Owen

    Russia’s attacks on Georgia and Ukraine were not idiotic?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Philip Owen


    Russia’s attacks on Georgia and Ukraine were not idiotic?
     
    Not like Western neocon/neolib geopolitical advocacy which has been quite idiotic.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  506. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    And the genetic distance was likely fairly low, at that point, though I wonder what it would have been before the industrial revolution and various historical points.
     
    On his YouTube I remember hearing SurvivetheJive saying that the Irish were still mostly descended from the original Bell Beaker people who migrated around the 2100 BC period.

    The Scottish in the North and West of Scotland are supposed to be similar. But further south in England there were significant later migrations from the continent, one from France around 1200 BC, then the Anglo-Saxons.

    When they go more deeply into the genetics of the Anglo-Saxons it looks like they had more French input than previously thought, also that they remained more Celtic. I think apart from some areas in the south-east of England, the Germanic contribution is between 50-20%.

    This looks different to the image of the later 19th century say, where Anglo-Saxons tended to be thought of as mainly Germanic in origin.

    Replies: @songbird

    Irish were still mostly descended from the original Bell Beaker people who migrated around the 2100 BC period.

    I think it is probably closer to 2500 BC. Seems staggeringly ancient compared to a place like Japan. (~70% replacement after about 150 AD) But maybe not compared to the Andaman Islands or several other peoples like Amerinds or Abos.)

    one from France around 1200 BC,

    This was a relatively recent discovery from after the initial Reich papers. I kept waiting for them to find something similar about Ireland but it never happened. But have never heard anyone comment about it to say whether it has definitely been disproven or not.

    Some believe that it was the Roman pullout that created the opportunity for the Anglo-Saxons, (I.e., maybe it would not have happened, if the Romans hadn’t disrupted native systems.) But I wonder if it wasn’t more purely geodeterminism. The terrain. That might explain the earlier invasion.

    Still I wonder if the Celts from Britain may have instituted some lesser invasion of Ireland, kind of like the Normans. I think Jive suggested that some of Norman French may have been somewhat Celtic but it was more suggestive and they haven’t really dug up a specific Norman graveyard.

    But altogether NW Europe is a pretty small, homogeneous (or was) circle compared to many other parts of the world.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    The Roman Army that entered Britain was full to the brim with Batavian Foederati.
    Batavia is just another word for Frisians, Dutch etc. The Romans introduced Legions and Auxiliary troops who were Germanic and speaking something like an old English vocabulary. Mystery solved.

    Replies: @songbird

  507. @LatW
    @songbird


    Yeah, this latitudinal sex segregation seems pretty unique in terms of the distances involved.
     
    They are separated most of the time, the adult males don't typically hang out with females. lol

    But they can communicate from a long distance. And they can be super loud.

    Probably the male could theoretically mate at a young age, but he has to build up all that mass, which takes like ten more years.
     

    I think he needs mass to make those loud mating sounds, too. Yea, the calves can nurse for many years. I can only imagine how much milk the mother produces and how fatty it is. Or the amount of calories it requires. I guess the bigger the animal, the higher maintenance it is.

    Didn't know they slept vertically... a bit eerie but very serene looking.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tgxkmJlJ2g8

    Replies: @songbird

    Sperm whales are such weird animals.

    They only sleep for a cumulative 1.7 hours a day, which doesn’t seem to suggest a great intelligence. Though I have heard some theorize sleep is more about avoiding predators (not a problem for giants) and energy conservation than anything else. Maybe, the power naps are enough for sperm whales, if they are built that way.

    I myself feel very susceptible to position changes, as regards sleep.

    Bottlenose and orcas have unihemispherical sleep (one side of their brain sleeps at a time.). Have heard it said that orca mothers and newborns don’t sleep for the first month or two, which seems hard to believe.

  508. The results of Ukie shelling of Belgorod region in the last week.
    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
    Wounded – 84 civilians.

    Presumably they (and their puppeteers) meant to disrupt Russian elections and reduce participation. As usual, they achieved exactly the opposite: normal human reaction is to do whatever you can to spite those you despise. Numeorous posts in social media in Russian show that because of disgusting Ukie actions lots of people in the RF who never voted in the last 20-30 years decided to go and vote just to spite Ukies. Naturally, for that reason those people voted for Putin.

    The results of Russian elections:
    Participation – >72% (a record turnout for Russia; higher than the turnout ever recorded in any self-appointed “democratic” country).
    Vote for Putin – 87.28% (higher than any “democratic” leader can even dream of).

    Now, you might recall that Putin’s electoral support usually was in the 62-70% range. The West in general and their Ukie proxies in particular are responsible for this sizeable uptick of his support. There are several reasons for it. One, shear anger against the West and its murderous Ukie puppets. Two, many of those who used to vote for commies now voted for Putin specifically to spite Ukies and their masters. Three, Zhirinovsky’s party used to demonstrate harsher and more combative anti-Western stance. Now that Putin became harsher, those voters voted for him instead (the fact that Slutsky is a far cry from Zhirik also played a role). BTW, the vote for Davankov (“New people” party) was 3.85%, about 2-3-fold higher than popular support of libtards in the RF.

    Net result: idiotic actions by the West and Ukies did wonders to unite RF citizens and consolidate Putin’s power. Congratulations, morons!

    Special note for American libtards: unlike Biden, Putin won without stacks of mail-in ballots arriving at 3 am (when the US mail does not work).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    So you believe that international democratic organizations are wrong in denouncing the election as a fraud?

    Did you believe that the Ukrainian occupied territory referendums to join Russia were credible?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
     
    I think she was only 14.

    Before launching a poorly planned invasion Putin should have thought about the more than likely consequences. Ukrainians killing civilians indiscriminately as a response is not exactly a surprising reaction.

    Anyway, what is Lake Baikal like this time of the year? Is it fully frozen? The pictures I've seen of that area are truly gorgeous. Will have to visit one day if things don't get even worse.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    The results of Ukie shelling of Belgorod region in the last week.
    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
    Wounded – 84 civilians.
     
    And how do you know these were not misfired Russian rockets or air defences?

    You know that Russians were shooting into Kharkiv and destroying downtown Kharkiv from Belgorod first. Did you think the Ukrainians would not shoot back at the ones shooting at them? Perhaps you should have condemned rather than supported Putin’s attack on Ukraine, with its tragic consequences for both Ukraine and Russia.

    The results of Russian elections:
    Participation – >72% (a record turnout for Russia; higher than the turnout ever recorded in any self-appointed “democratic” country).
    Vote for Putin – 87.28%
     
    Gullible AnoninTN believes those numbers. Even the 99% or whatever in Chechnya.

    Our former host has a great thread about Russian election fakery which he compares to Central Asian levels:



    https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1769507932759044242?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

  509. Would also like to see someone bring corn from the Americas to Polynesia using native tech.

  510. A great day to die for a dwarf dictator:
    https://funker530.com/video/nsfw-bomb-drone-hammers-3-russian-troops/

    The Ukrainians have really mastered those small drone attacks.

    The increase in explosive power from a year ago is noticeable. Before they needed to make a direct hit on one but that drone took out all three of them.

    Russian men please head to your nearest recruiting center so you too can die in a war that you can’t explain (most Russian POWs are unable to explain why the war exists).

  511. @AnonfromTN
    The results of Ukie shelling of Belgorod region in the last week.
    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
    Wounded – 84 civilians.

    Presumably they (and their puppeteers) meant to disrupt Russian elections and reduce participation. As usual, they achieved exactly the opposite: normal human reaction is to do whatever you can to spite those you despise. Numeorous posts in social media in Russian show that because of disgusting Ukie actions lots of people in the RF who never voted in the last 20-30 years decided to go and vote just to spite Ukies. Naturally, for that reason those people voted for Putin.

    The results of Russian elections:
    Participation – >72% (a record turnout for Russia; higher than the turnout ever recorded in any self-appointed “democratic” country).
    Vote for Putin – 87.28% (higher than any “democratic” leader can even dream of).

    Now, you might recall that Putin’s electoral support usually was in the 62-70% range. The West in general and their Ukie proxies in particular are responsible for this sizeable uptick of his support. There are several reasons for it. One, shear anger against the West and its murderous Ukie puppets. Two, many of those who used to vote for commies now voted for Putin specifically to spite Ukies and their masters. Three, Zhirinovsky’s party used to demonstrate harsher and more combative anti-Western stance. Now that Putin became harsher, those voters voted for him instead (the fact that Slutsky is a far cry from Zhirik also played a role). BTW, the vote for Davankov (“New people” party) was 3.85%, about 2-3-fold higher than popular support of libtards in the RF.

    Net result: idiotic actions by the West and Ukies did wonders to unite RF citizens and consolidate Putin’s power. Congratulations, morons!

    Special note for American libtards: unlike Biden, Putin won without stacks of mail-in ballots arriving at 3 am (when the US mail does not work).

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel, @AP

    So you believe that international democratic organizations are wrong in denouncing the election as a fraud?

    Did you believe that the Ukrainian occupied territory referendums to join Russia were credible?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Zelenskyy dare not even allow an assembly election. Let alone a presidential election. He knows it would fracture Ukraine to do so.

    Not so Russia.

    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves. Then you bitch about them not being allowed to vote in a free and fair election as if you empathise with them…Are they not subhumans deserving of an autocratic dictator? Are they not getting exactly the leader they deserve?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

  512. @songbird
    @Coconuts


    Irish were still mostly descended from the original Bell Beaker people who migrated around the 2100 BC period.
     
    I think it is probably closer to 2500 BC. Seems staggeringly ancient compared to a place like Japan. (~70% replacement after about 150 AD) But maybe not compared to the Andaman Islands or several other peoples like Amerinds or Abos.)

    one from France around 1200 BC,
     
    This was a relatively recent discovery from after the initial Reich papers. I kept waiting for them to find something similar about Ireland but it never happened. But have never heard anyone comment about it to say whether it has definitely been disproven or not.

    Some believe that it was the Roman pullout that created the opportunity for the Anglo-Saxons, (I.e., maybe it would not have happened, if the Romans hadn't disrupted native systems.) But I wonder if it wasn't more purely geodeterminism. The terrain. That might explain the earlier invasion.

    Still I wonder if the Celts from Britain may have instituted some lesser invasion of Ireland, kind of like the Normans. I think Jive suggested that some of Norman French may have been somewhat Celtic but it was more suggestive and they haven't really dug up a specific Norman graveyard.

    But altogether NW Europe is a pretty small, homogeneous (or was) circle compared to many other parts of the world.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    The Roman Army that entered Britain was full to the brim with Batavian Foederati.
    Batavia is just another word for Frisians, Dutch etc. The Romans introduced Legions and Auxiliary troops who were Germanic and speaking something like an old English vocabulary. Mystery solved.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    Interesting question how much Roman acculturation influenced German tribes to form larger and larger confederations.

    Though, I tend to favor a non-cultural explanation. That the population of Germans had grown significantly, due to various improvements in agriculture as it adapted to the northern climates. Such as cutting down oak forests with iron.
    __________
    When Randy Gardner was awake for 11 days, he had trouble doing math and confusedly claimed he was black. But was still able to beat a sleep doctor at pinball.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Gardner_sleep_deprivation_experiment

    He supposedly made a full recovery after sleeping for more than 14 hrs. Today, he is still alive and sounds like a hippy. But maybe he was that way to start with.

    https://youtu.be/hLDl7fRwnKY?si=w1rq7GtJp3OHKVt1

    The longest I have ever been awake for was three nights in a row. At one time I was fighting to not fall asleep, but then that passed. That was in a very hot climate. And it was mostly the temp that I couldn't deal with. And the noise.

  513. @Coconuts

    The 10,000 men were Russians.
     
    There was a book about it published a few years ago:

    https://www.helion.co.uk/military-history-books/the-secret-expedition-the-anglo-russian-invasion-of-holland-1799.php?sid=ca97173701d2acc3772672689c64119f

    How many of the campaigns and battles of the French Revolutionary Wars are remembered in Britain today?

    More than 10,000 of the allied troops in that 1799 expedition were British afaik.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    What I’m saying is that the last campaign of the Duke of York contained a massive contingent of Russian troops. It ended with 40,000 Russians landed in the Isle of Wight after the campaign was wound down.

    Would have been a very interesting campaign to cover in a movie like Ridley Scott’s Napoleon. Even though he wasn’t there the sight of Tommy and Ivan fighting Piet and Pierre in Amsterdam would have been a hoot. It was mentioned in passing by Napoleon as an abomination up north.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @Wokechoke


    What I’m saying is that the last campaign of the Duke of York contained a massive contingent of Russian troops. It ended with 40,000 Russians landed in the Isle of Wight after the campaign was wound down.
     
    Well, Russian oak (mostly from my place, Tatarstan) is what the British Royal Navy ships were built from from late 17th century onwards. So Russian oak rots less and major factor that created powerful navy for the British...and powerful navy is of course what lead to Britain becoming the dominant world power , so I would have to assume the export of oak is the genesis of this this anglo-Russian military campaign you are mentioning.

    Second main factor was probably natural union against Catholic states despotism. This military union ( that I had never head of before) looks like a campaign against a French (i.e Catholic) controlled dutch state.

    Britain established diplomatic and trade relations with Russia in 1500s - a long time before Poland - which indicates everything.
  514. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    So you believe that international democratic organizations are wrong in denouncing the election as a fraud?

    Did you believe that the Ukrainian occupied territory referendums to join Russia were credible?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Zelenskyy dare not even allow an assembly election. Let alone a presidential election. He knows it would fracture Ukraine to do so.

    Not so Russia.

    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves. Then you bitch about them not being allowed to vote in a free and fair election as if you empathise with them…Are they not subhumans deserving of an autocratic dictator? Are they not getting exactly the leader they deserve?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves.
     
    Simple question: if the people who participate in elections are slaves, what term should we use for the people who were denied elections and did not even protest this, like Ukies? While various swear words in many languages are applicable, please try to suggest a school-appropriate term.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Zelenskyy dare not even allow an assembly election. Let alone a presidential election. He knows it would fracture Ukraine to do so.

    He won an election while the pro-NATO candidate lost. There goes Big Dumb NATO conspiracy theory.

    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves. Then you bitch about them not being allowed to vote in a free and fair election as if you empathise with them…Are they not subhumans deserving of an autocratic dictator? Are they not getting exactly the leader they deserve?

    I wasn't responding to you and the cowardice of most Russians doesn't justify fraud or totalitarian rule by a dwarf. Did you also want to try a shot at the question that Putin's bootlickers ignore:

    Did you believe that the Ukrainian occupied territory referendums to join Russia were credible?

    They have a hard time with that one. AnonfromTN didn't answer the question because he knows that his dwarf hero is a liar and totalitarian ruler. Putin can fake his national election but the referendum vote has huge problems with numbers.

    AnonfromTN is most likely another bitter incel that supports death and destruction. His defense of Putin is a mask for his own insecurities and resentment against society. He knows full well that the dwarf is full of shit and he doesn't care.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  515. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    The Roman Army that entered Britain was full to the brim with Batavian Foederati.
    Batavia is just another word for Frisians, Dutch etc. The Romans introduced Legions and Auxiliary troops who were Germanic and speaking something like an old English vocabulary. Mystery solved.

    Replies: @songbird

    Interesting question how much Roman acculturation influenced German tribes to form larger and larger confederations.

    Though, I tend to favor a non-cultural explanation. That the population of Germans had grown significantly, due to various improvements in agriculture as it adapted to the northern climates. Such as cutting down oak forests with iron.
    __________
    When Randy Gardner was awake for 11 days, he had trouble doing math and confusedly claimed he was black. But was still able to beat a sleep doctor at pinball.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Gardner_sleep_deprivation_experiment

    He supposedly made a full recovery after sleeping for more than 14 hrs. Today, he is still alive and sounds like a hippy. But maybe he was that way to start with.

    [MORE]

    The longest I have ever been awake for was three nights in a row. At one time I was fighting to not fall asleep, but then that passed. That was in a very hot climate. And it was mostly the temp that I couldn’t deal with. And the noise.

  516. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Zelenskyy dare not even allow an assembly election. Let alone a presidential election. He knows it would fracture Ukraine to do so.

    Not so Russia.

    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves. Then you bitch about them not being allowed to vote in a free and fair election as if you empathise with them…Are they not subhumans deserving of an autocratic dictator? Are they not getting exactly the leader they deserve?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves.

    Simple question: if the people who participate in elections are slaves, what term should we use for the people who were denied elections and did not even protest this, like Ukies? While various swear words in many languages are applicable, please try to suggest a school-appropriate term.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Simple question: if the people who participate in elections are slaves, what term should we use for the people who were denied elections and did not even protest this, like Ukies?

    Which election are you referring to exactly? It's normal in Europe to delay elections when under invasion.

    Oh and speaking of elections your dwarf hero was caught cheating:

    https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1770364450144489510?s=20

    No one and not even you believes that Russia has a democracy.

    The world will see that video and not your pathetic PR wall of text with made-up numbers from the dwarf palace.

    Just as the world saw Russians hauling away a fucking toy train when they where looting.

    World opinion is that Russians are losers and Putin is their bitter dwarf king.

    CHOO CHOO

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1589370767661113345

    Maybe you can ask CNN and Daily Mail to stop running these videos that make Russians look like total losers. Good luck.

  517. In 1978, ZIPRA shot down a civilian plane and killed such survivors as they could find.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Rhodesia_Flight_827

    As a consequence, the Rhodesians, though they had slim resources, immediately organized Operation Gatling to destroy the ZIPR headquarters located in Zambia.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gatling

    Now, less than 46 years later, a Zambian mulatto is the top man in the Welsh government.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaughan_Gething

    IMO, South Africa should have developed thermonuclear weapons.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @songbird

    During the conflict in Portuguese Africa in the 1960s Dr. Salazar used to talk about the civilisational aspect, that the defence of the Portuguese Empire was related to the defence of Europe itself. He was already old by that time but probably one of the great political realists of the last century.

    This thing with all of the non-white leaders in Britain and Ireland may be the fulfillment of a cultural trend that goes back to the 60s, where there was a kind of ambient anti-whiteness, especially among influential parts of the cultural elite (like an expansion of the negrophile movement from earlier in the century).

    The interesting thing is where this is going to go next, the current situation looks a bit artificial for example and I doubt any of those leaders are going to usher in a new golden age.

    Replies: @songbird

  518. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Zelenskyy dare not even allow an assembly election. Let alone a presidential election. He knows it would fracture Ukraine to do so.

    Not so Russia.

    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves. Then you bitch about them not being allowed to vote in a free and fair election as if you empathise with them…Are they not subhumans deserving of an autocratic dictator? Are they not getting exactly the leader they deserve?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    Zelenskyy dare not even allow an assembly election. Let alone a presidential election. He knows it would fracture Ukraine to do so.

    He won an election while the pro-NATO candidate lost. There goes Big Dumb NATO conspiracy theory.

    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves. Then you bitch about them not being allowed to vote in a free and fair election as if you empathise with them…Are they not subhumans deserving of an autocratic dictator? Are they not getting exactly the leader they deserve?

    I wasn’t responding to you and the cowardice of most Russians doesn’t justify fraud or totalitarian rule by a dwarf. Did you also want to try a shot at the question that Putin’s bootlickers ignore:

    Did you believe that the Ukrainian occupied territory referendums to join Russia were credible?

    They have a hard time with that one. AnonfromTN didn’t answer the question because he knows that his dwarf hero is a liar and totalitarian ruler. Putin can fake his national election but the referendum vote has huge problems with numbers.

    AnonfromTN is most likely another bitter incel that supports death and destruction. His defense of Putin is a mask for his own insecurities and resentment against society. He knows full well that the dwarf is full of shit and he doesn’t care.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Even the French assembly during the Revolution era held elections.

    You’d think that doing so (open free fair elections) was the entire fucking point of of the state of Ukraine post Soviet era.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  519. @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Zelenskyy dare not even allow an assembly election. Let alone a presidential election. He knows it would fracture Ukraine to do so.

    He won an election while the pro-NATO candidate lost. There goes Big Dumb NATO conspiracy theory.

    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves. Then you bitch about them not being allowed to vote in a free and fair election as if you empathise with them…Are they not subhumans deserving of an autocratic dictator? Are they not getting exactly the leader they deserve?

    I wasn't responding to you and the cowardice of most Russians doesn't justify fraud or totalitarian rule by a dwarf. Did you also want to try a shot at the question that Putin's bootlickers ignore:

    Did you believe that the Ukrainian occupied territory referendums to join Russia were credible?

    They have a hard time with that one. AnonfromTN didn't answer the question because he knows that his dwarf hero is a liar and totalitarian ruler. Putin can fake his national election but the referendum vote has huge problems with numbers.

    AnonfromTN is most likely another bitter incel that supports death and destruction. His defense of Putin is a mask for his own insecurities and resentment against society. He knows full well that the dwarf is full of shit and he doesn't care.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Even the French assembly during the Revolution era held elections.

    You’d think that doing so (open free fair elections) was the entire fucking point of of the state of Ukraine post Soviet era.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Wokechoke

    Even the French assembly during the Revolution era held elections.

    You’d think that doing so (open free fair elections) was the entire fucking point of of the state of Ukraine post Soviet era.

    What are you complaining about exactly? Zelensky was elected and defeated the pro-NATO candidate which negates the Putinite theory that Ukrainian elections are controlled by the West.

    Did you want to try answering this question?

    Did you believe that the Ukrainian occupied territory referendums to join Russia were credible?

  520. CRISPR has been used to cure sickle cell, which means the military potential of Nigeria in 2100 has been substantially increased.

    Actually, I am joking, as it involves chemo.

  521. @Mikel
    @AP


    You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral
     
    I have never done that. Are you unable to build arguments without making moronic claims?

    despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do
     
    You've just lived longer in the US, that's all. But you have confessed that you're going to vote for Biden, an unhinged libtard who has opened the US borders and caused the largest influx of illegal immigrants in US history, just because you trust him more than his opponent to support the foreign country that you really care about. You prefer the US to continue receiving millions of uneducated, unvetted immigrants from the 3rd World each year rather than running the risk of a foreign country not receiving enough weapons paid for by US taxpayers. Your allegiance to the country of your ancestors is orders of magnitude greater than mine.

    Things are bad enough in this blog anyway. Arguing about who has a "stronger connection" to the US is a retarded way of spending one's time. If you object to my taking part in civic duties in the US send an email to utgop.org. Good luck.

    Replies: @AP

    You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral

    I have never done that.

    You conveniently forgot to include my other words: “(implied, at least, because you said everyone does it)”

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-242/#comment-6423866

    And, regardless of any political considerations, it must have been a very long time since you last applied for a loan or a mortgage… You try to paint the most rosy picture of your business project that you can and then the bank accepts or declines your request based entirely on their own risk evaluation.

    If prosecutors started convicting every person who gives inaccurate information in a loan application, the justice system would simply collapse from one day to the other, along with business operations.

    Your normalization of inaccurate reporting to banks implies that you do that, also.

    despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do

    You’ve just lived longer in the US, that’s all.

    Quantity is its own quality. I grew up here, so I have a connection to this place that you will never have. It’s clear that you can’t even understand that. You are a drifter, who voluntarily left his homeland and moved to different countries (Poland, Chile, USA?). I hope you have at least settled in some Basque enclave in the Great Basin, rather than dilute the Mormonism of wherever you live.

    But you have confessed that you’re going to vote for Biden,

    Probably, though we’ll see if something new develops. I did vote for Trump last time.

    BTW the oldest and longest-settled parts of the country will likely vote for Biden.

    who has opened the US borders and caused the largest influx of illegal immigrants in US history

    You opposed the measure that would have limited the numbers. You follow Trump, who wants maximum carnage before the election in order to maximize his chances of winning. Party over country.

    You prefer the US to continue receiving millions of uneducated, unvetted immigrants from the 3rd World each year

    No that’s you.

    Rather than support a deal which would limit the numbers (millions is a theoretical maximum but the border would have been shut by now because the automatic shut-down trigger would have been reached, so it would not have been millions).

    Why the deal? Because the American people elected a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. So the best that can be done is a flawed compromise which at least has automatic shut-downs and doesn’t leave the border wide open.

    But you don’t like compromises reflecting the voters’ will. As a former South American, you may be comfortable with strongman corrupt caudillo rule and vote accordingly. The perils of allowing people such as you into my country.

    running the risk of a foreign country not receiving enough weapons paid for by US taxpayers

    The risk of another Cold War with a resurgent neo-Soviet empire is worse than building up the US military industry with jobs in the American heartland. Of course, as a foreign drifter who came to this country you probably don’t care about American workers and communities because “muh taxes.”

    Arguing about who has a “stronger connection” to the US is a retarded way of spending one’s time.

    There’s nothing to argue about, foreign drifter/intruder.

    At least the illegals don’t vote.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    AP, you might be interested in Trump's apparent immigration pans for 2025 and beyond:

    https://www.niskanencenter.org/project-2025-unveiling-the-far-rights-plan-to-demolish-immigration-in-a-second-trump-term/

    Honestly, I'm just glad that I and all of my own (immediate) family have already acquired US citizenship by now. I'm incredibly grateful to have been able to immigrate to the US together with my family back in March 2001, back when the US was considerably more hostile towards immigration than it currently is.

    BTW, I personally support the Biden-GOP border deal both for Ukraine's sake (I want more US aid to reach Ukraine) and also to help Biden's 2024 election chances. But I don't think that it will be anywhere near the end of the world if we'll get an extra year's worth of Latin Americans, Chinese, and Indians.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mikel
    @AP

    I'm sure that when you're typing this type of crap a little voice in your mind is telling you "don't do it". But you're too weak. You're unable to control your impulses against the advice of your better judgement and keep hitting the Publish button.

    More than anything else, you should stop this for your family. They don't deserve a husband and father that spends hours on end crapping on the internet with petty personal battles. They know what you do all all that time you spend not paying attention to them. Perhaps they read everything you write here. Do you think they would feel proud of you?

    And that's all I have to say in reply to your "arguments". I do have a life and everybody here knows perfectly well who we are, what we stand for and who cares about what (except for JoJo maybe). The readers of this blog don't deserve another round of crap either.

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

  522. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...He can start figuring it out.
     
    Even if Macron does, there will still be nothing he can do. You don't seem to understand that this is a zugzwang - any move will make the Western situation worse. And ofc Kiev's, but they are a subsidiary.

    Offensives won't work, we have been over it. Prolonged stalemate will make the eventual collapse by Kiev worse. Surrender would require Russian cooperation. Bringing in Nato soldiers will not be enough and will only spread the blood to Poland, Romania, France, Balts... And going nuclear is not a solution.

    This was a cosmic screw-up, that's why Nuland was fired and most politicians are now quiet. It was simply a very bad idea to pick a fight with Russia in Ukraine by trying to move Nato there. Almost anything other would have been better.


    At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year

    What type of math did you use to arrive at this statement?
     

    Ukieland is down to 25-30 million people (at best). Their losses so far are around half a million, among them some of their better troops. They can draft unwilling and incapable people, most of their 40's and 50's, but they will never again have the large army they had in 2022-23. Too many losses. There is no way to fix it.

    Replies: @AP

    Garbage in:

    Ukieland is down to 25-30 million people (at best). Their losses so far are around half a million, among them some of their better troops.

    Garbage out:

    At the present rate of destruction the Ukie army has maybe 1 year

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  523. @Mikhail
    @AP


    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I’m sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.
     
    You omitted the already banned political parties. Russia is in armed conflict and holding an election, inclusive of some former Ukrainian SSR territory. So much for the BS about Kiev regime successes striking Russian forces and Russian areas.

    Replies: @AP

    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I’m sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.

    You omitted the already banned political parties.

    The ones who support an enemy at the time of war. Britain banned the fascists during World War II. America briefly banned the Communist Party during the Cold War (1954). For different reasons, Germany bans the Nazi Party.

    Russia is in armed conflict and holding an election

    Fake elections can be run during war, during peace, anytime at all.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    The ones who support an enemy at the time of war. Britain banned the fascists during World War II. America briefly banned the Communist Party during the Cold War (1954). For different reasons, Germany bans the Nazi Party.
     
    Do you think that it was a good idea for Ukraine to ban Medvedchuk's media empire back in 2021? If done after Russia's full-on invasion of Ukraine, then the answer would be obvious, but Russia's war with Ukraine was much more low-level back in 2021. On the flip side, though, would the US have actually allowed a hypothetical prominent pro-Taliban media outlet (say, founded and owned by some extremely wealthy radical Muslim businessman with US citizenship) to exist and operate in the US back in 2000 (before 9/11), or would it have still been deemed too much of a security risk? Any thoughts on this?

    Replies: @AP

  524. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Are they really worse than Mexicans are?
     
    during WW2, Trujillo offered like 130,000 visas for single Jews to move to DR. Very few took him up on his offer. For those who did, it was primarily a stepping stone to the US. There are maybe under a dozen families with some Jewish descent today.

    have never seen a non-obese Dominican in the US. With Mexicans, you sometimes (rarely) get a Paterfamilias vibe, but not with Dominicans. Thought they were seen as a violent group around NYC, when they arrived.

    But they also had to suffer from a century of Jim Crow afterwards (and racially restrictive covenants plus redlining in the Northern US in the early 20th century).
     
    isn't that just woke rhetoric?

    Not "redlining" resulted in the 2008 housing collapse. It made houses unaffordable how did they suffer from covenants? Covenants applied against Jews and they materially prospered.

    Black democracy hasn't been a success and is a joke, as blacks are block voters. The black congressional caucus wouldn't stand much scrutiny. Remember that guy who had money in his freezer and the media were making excuses for him about blacks not trusting banks.

    You don’t need Jim Crow to have a decent tough-on-crime policy. Michael Bloomberg in New York City did a great job with his stop-and-frisk program.
     
    The US spends an astronomical amount on policing. New York jails spend like $1 million/prisoner/year. And police become a tool for enforcing woke. I think it would be a much better society without these extra outlays.

    The US is a rich society, but much of the wealth is frittered into wasteful, dead ends. Crime is heritable.

    Well, they should build much more housing to keep up with the demand for it.
     
    There is a limit to how much can be built. In the UK a lot of the green spaces are being developed.

    The question is: how does open borders benefit Europeans? The answer is pretty clearly that it doesn't. The perception isn't there that it benefits them.

    So, whose interests are you advocating for, when you advocate for it? And why elevate them above the interests of the natives?

    Brazil’s top 5% smartest people/students have an average IQ of around 100. Here in the US, it’s around 121. Over a standard deviation higher! Absolutely no comparison!
     
    Culture and political world is very similar. They have their own version of AA now. Blacks are often depicted improbably as the smart ones in film. Racism is seen as bad.

    Doesn't the US IQ mean get rebalanced as time passes? From what I hear, many of the new groups aren't functionally much smarter than the places that they come from. They have a great deal of trouble understanding directions. US mean IQ is definitely falling in absolute terms.

    Brazil is not a place to emulate by having open borders.

    What about Robert Stark’s pan-enclavism model here in the US?

     

    I would prefer some kind of localism, but I don't think he really does a good job articulating it.

    But I think enclaves would be a better model model of multiculturalism. They could be a way of getting foreign investment into African countries. (With a mutual system of benefit.). And they can be scaled or designated in a way that it wouldn't result in fears of domination.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    during WW2, Trujillo offered like 130,000 visas for single Jews to move to DR. Very few took him up on his offer. For those who did, it was primarily a stepping stone to the US. There are maybe under a dozen families with some Jewish descent today.

    Jews with families were not allowed to take him up on his offer?

    Anyway, I suspect that many more European Jews would have took him up on his offer had they actually been able to foresee that the Nazis would mass murder almost all of them. They expected discrimination, pogroms, ghettoization, anti-miscegenation laws, but not that. Not on a scale quite literally 1,000 times worse than what the Jim Crow Southern US did to its own blacks.

    [MORE]

    have never seen a non-obese Dominican in the US. With Mexicans, you sometimes (rarely) get a Paterfamilias vibe, but not with Dominicans. Thought they were seen as a violent group around NYC, when they arrived.

    I’m not an expert on either NYC or Dominicans, so I can’t comment on that. Weren’t Italians also seen as a violent group around NYC when they arrived, though? They had a very serious mafia problem for decades, after all.

    isn’t that just woke rhetoric?

    Not “redlining” resulted in the 2008 housing collapse. It made houses unaffordable how did they suffer from covenants? Covenants applied against Jews and they materially prospered.

    I don’t mean giving out loans to unqualified people, but simply not prohibiting people from living in certain areas due to their race. And Yes, Jews flourished in spite of racially restrictive housing covenants because they were able to create good neighborhoods from scratch, which the African-American Talented Tenth could not do because they had to deal with too many ghetto underclass blacks next door. So, they wanted to live in the much nicer white neighborhoods instead.

    Of course, the abolition of racially restrictive covenants was not an unequivocal blessing either. Northern US cities turned into dumps, which in turn facilitated white flight and later black Talented Tenth flight as well, which in turn made these cities even dumpier than they previously were. I don’t like racially restrictive covenants and am glad that they don’t exist, but I wonder if some kind of managed integration would have been much better in regards to this. It likely would have, most likely. Almost certainly, in fact.

    I obviously think that desegregation was a good thing but I think that certain issues, such as chronic black crime, make full integration both extremely difficult and undesirable to achieve, which is why I’m glad that a lot of US cities are mostly racially segregated in terms of their housing patterns (non-blacks don’t want to live next to a lot of black crime, other than perhaps white gentrifiers) but at the same time also very glad that the law does not prohibit anyone from living in any part of the country, especially due to their race.

    Black democracy hasn’t been a success and is a joke, as blacks are block voters. The black congressional caucus wouldn’t stand much scrutiny. Remember that guy who had money in his freezer and the media were making excuses for him about blacks not trusting banks.

    Yes, unfortunately black and likely Hispanic US politicians are probably–perhaps very likely–more corrupt than US white and Asian politicians are. It’s a huge shame and it’s likely a function of average IQ differences. It’s a good idea to keep the country smart enough to prevent corruption from getting out of control. Israel is somewhat similar in this regard, only a bit worse. Israel’s old liberal Ashkenazi Jewish elite probably isn’t that fond of stealing (though there are exceptions, such as Ehud Olmert), but ex-USSR Jews, Mizrahim, and religious Jews (such as the Ultra-Orthodox: ex: Aryeh Deri) are probably on average more fond of stealing. The ex-USSR Jews might be smart enough to eventually grow out of this habit, though, especially now that their political leadership has moved leftwards.

    The US spends an astronomical amount on policing. New York jails spend like $1 million/prisoner/year. And police become a tool for enforcing woke. I think it would be a much better society without these extra outlays.

    The US is a rich society, but much of the wealth is frittered into wasteful, dead ends. Crime is heritable.

    What about providing gene therapy for criminals long-term in exchange for reduced sentences that would allow criminals to reduce their criminal urges? They would have to constantly take this therapy to ensure that they would not relapse into old habits and be jailed if they refuse since consistently taking this therapy would be a condition for early release on probation for them.

    There is a limit to how much can be built. In the UK a lot of the green spaces are being developed.

    The question is: how does open borders benefit Europeans? The answer is pretty clearly that it doesn’t. The perception isn’t there that it benefits them.

    So, whose interests are you advocating for, when you advocate for it? And why elevate them above the interests of the natives?

    Well, I think that open borders for smart people would make Europe and the West stronger by giving the EU and the West more smart people to work with. But Yeah, for duller people, open borders mostly benefits them rather than Europeans. They could be exceptions: The Indian/Latin American nanny which allows more Western women to enter the workforce, for instance. But I’m mostly focusing on the benefits to the immigrants themselves. I don’t want the West to become a dump, though, which is why I’m extremely wary of Muslim and African immigration. I would make an exception for liberal and progressive Muslims who want to reform their religion but can’t do so back at home in their own countries due to the extremely high risk of them getting jailed and/or murdered for this, though. A much more liberal Islam would certainly benefit all of humanity, as would the spread of a much more liberal Christianity into Sub-Saharan Africa.

    If one only wanted to preserve the interests of Europeans, though, then one should only accept the smart immigrants or perhaps accept no one at all and be like Japan in the old days. Or only accept other European immigrants. Though there would still be the question of people of mixed European descent. Again, Israel accepts people who are 25+% Jewish and their immediate family members. Maybe Europe should do the same for Europeans, provided that they actually identify with Europe, European culture, and/or the West?

    Culture and political world is very similar. They have their own version of AA now. Blacks are often depicted improbably as the smart ones in film. Racism is seen as bad.

    Doesn’t the US IQ mean get rebalanced as time passes? From what I hear, many of the new groups aren’t functionally much smarter than the places that they come from. They have a great deal of trouble understanding directions. US mean IQ is definitely falling in absolute terms.

    Brazil is not a place to emulate by having open borders.

    The US still absorbs an extremely massive number of cognitively elitist immigrants from outside of the Western Hemisphere:

    https://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-09-26-braindrain/immigration.html

    It can likely absorb many more of them if there will ever actually be the political will to do so. Just make sure to settle them in places where a lot of new housing can be built, like Texas.

    I would prefer some kind of localism, but I don’t think he really does a good job articulating it.

    But I think enclaves would be a better model model of multiculturalism. They could be a way of getting foreign investment into African countries. (With a mutual system of benefit.). And they can be scaled or designated in a way that it wouldn’t result in fears of domination.

    I’m all in favor of white enclaves in the developing world, possibly even self-ruled ones, but this would require white fertility in the West to massively go back up so that the white world will once again have plenty of extra people to spare, as it had during the Industrial Revolution, when tens of millions of white people moved from Europe to the Americas.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Jews with families were not allowed to take him up on his offer?
     
    i don't think it was so much about having children as being married. his idea was to try to get them to marry locals. He felt this would be eugenic. Possibly he was also concerned about integration, but eugenics seem to have been his main idea.

    What about providing gene therapy for criminals long-term in exchange for reduced sentences that would allow criminals to reduce their criminal urges?
     
    My attitude towards crime is that cost reductionism is good. So I have no moral problem with the idea that hard criminals could be transported to some desert island and be allowed to walk about. As long as it was much cheaper, and they couldn't escape and re-enter society. But I would be against any plan that allowed for recidivism.

    Weren’t Italians also seen as a violent group around NYC when they arrived, though? T
     
    I know people old enough to remember when Italians moved into the old neighborhood, and they say that they were violent and I do believe them. (Because why would they lie?)

    One, who is otherwise somewhat boomerish politically(though a bit older than a boomer blames the decline of his father on Italian youths beating him up. He didn't see it, and his father didn't say anything, but that is what he suspected happened. Whether it really happened I can't say. But I do think enough happened to lead him to guess that.

    But Italians are super-Nords compared to Dominicans.

    Maybe Europe should do the same for Europeans, provided that they actually identify with Europe, European culture, and/or the West?
     
    I believe in the idea of bioculture.

    While self-identity or loyalty can be very important, I think only a regimented society can really police these things.

    Japan, which might be seen to be very strict. I think still has a problem with local gaijin or hapas being disruptive. Is it not detrimental, for a mulatto in Japan to claim that he is Japanese? Or for one to be crowned Miss Japan?

    I don't think such a society is really possible on a mass scale. Perhaps , in a constrained geography, where people voluntarily come and have a right of exit. And where people have there own external cultural centers. A place sort of like Singapore. But Singapore is an IQ shredder.
    , @Coconuts
    @Mr. XYZ


    They expected discrimination, pogroms, ghettoization, anti-miscegenation laws, but not that. Not on a scale quite literally 1,000 times worse than what the Jim Crow Southern US did to its own blacks.
     
    I read about the lynchings some time ago, around the time of the BLM/Floyd thing in 2020, if I am remembering things correctly there were around 3,000? At the same time iirc the black population of the US has risen from an original base of something like 500,000 to the current 40 million, an 80 fold increase.

    Given this is so different to the case of the Holocaust some sociologists identify two distinct forms of racism, the racism of colonial societies which is based on maintaining some groups as subordinate or exploited, and another form which is based on racial threat and zero sum conflict between ethnic groups. The latter can lead to exterminatory policies.
  525. @Philip Owen
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Russia's attacks on Georgia and Ukraine were not idiotic?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Russia’s attacks on Georgia and Ukraine were not idiotic?

    Not like Western neocon/neolib geopolitical advocacy which has been quite idiotic.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Mikhail

    On that we can agree. The answer is the EU.

  526. @AP
    @Mikhail


    Ukraine could have run a fake election with much of the population abroad or displaced or on the frontlines (I’m sure you would like easy targets such as polling places for soldiers) but chose to postpone it instead.

    You omitted the already banned political parties.
     
    The ones who support an enemy at the time of war. Britain banned the fascists during World War II. America briefly banned the Communist Party during the Cold War (1954). For different reasons, Germany bans the Nazi Party.

    Russia is in armed conflict and holding an election
     
    Fake elections can be run during war, during peace, anytime at all.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    The ones who support an enemy at the time of war. Britain banned the fascists during World War II. America briefly banned the Communist Party during the Cold War (1954). For different reasons, Germany bans the Nazi Party.

    Do you think that it was a good idea for Ukraine to ban Medvedchuk’s media empire back in 2021? If done after Russia’s full-on invasion of Ukraine, then the answer would be obvious, but Russia’s war with Ukraine was much more low-level back in 2021. On the flip side, though, would the US have actually allowed a hypothetical prominent pro-Taliban media outlet (say, founded and owned by some extremely wealthy radical Muslim businessman with US citizenship) to exist and operate in the US back in 2000 (before 9/11), or would it have still been deemed too much of a security risk? Any thoughts on this?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    Do you think that it was a good idea for Ukraine to ban Medvedchuk’s media empire back in 2021? If done after Russia’s full-on invasion of Ukraine, then the answer would be obvious, but Russia’s war with Ukraine was much more low-level back in 2021
     
    I would compare that to banning the Communist Party in the USA and preventing Commies in the entertainment industry from influencing Americans by blacklisting them, during some of the Cold War. Except Ukraine's case was more legitimate because the war, while very low level, was still somewhat hot.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  527. @AP
    @Mikel


    You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral


    I have never done that.
     
    You conveniently forgot to include my other words: "(implied, at least, because you said everyone does it)"

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-242/#comment-6423866

    And, regardless of any political considerations, it must have been a very long time since you last applied for a loan or a mortgage... You try to paint the most rosy picture of your business project that you can and then the bank accepts or declines your request based entirely on their own risk evaluation.

    If prosecutors started convicting every person who gives inaccurate information in a loan application, the justice system would simply collapse from one day to the other, along with business operations.
     
    Your normalization of inaccurate reporting to banks implies that you do that, also.

    despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do

    You’ve just lived longer in the US, that’s all.
     
    Quantity is its own quality. I grew up here, so I have a connection to this place that you will never have. It's clear that you can't even understand that. You are a drifter, who voluntarily left his homeland and moved to different countries (Poland, Chile, USA?). I hope you have at least settled in some Basque enclave in the Great Basin, rather than dilute the Mormonism of wherever you live.

    But you have confessed that you’re going to vote for Biden,
     
    Probably, though we'll see if something new develops. I did vote for Trump last time.

    BTW the oldest and longest-settled parts of the country will likely vote for Biden.

    who has opened the US borders and caused the largest influx of illegal immigrants in US history
     
    You opposed the measure that would have limited the numbers. You follow Trump, who wants maximum carnage before the election in order to maximize his chances of winning. Party over country.

    You prefer the US to continue receiving millions of uneducated, unvetted immigrants from the 3rd World each year
     
    No that's you.

    Rather than support a deal which would limit the numbers (millions is a theoretical maximum but the border would have been shut by now because the automatic shut-down trigger would have been reached, so it would not have been millions).

    Why the deal? Because the American people elected a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. So the best that can be done is a flawed compromise which at least has automatic shut-downs and doesn't leave the border wide open.

    But you don't like compromises reflecting the voters' will. As a former South American, you may be comfortable with strongman corrupt caudillo rule and vote accordingly. The perils of allowing people such as you into my country.

    running the risk of a foreign country not receiving enough weapons paid for by US taxpayers
     
    The risk of another Cold War with a resurgent neo-Soviet empire is worse than building up the US military industry with jobs in the American heartland. Of course, as a foreign drifter who came to this country you probably don't care about American workers and communities because "muh taxes."

    Arguing about who has a “stronger connection” to the US is a retarded way of spending one’s time.
     
    There's nothing to argue about, foreign drifter/intruder.

    At least the illegals don't vote.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

    AP, you might be interested in Trump’s apparent immigration pans for 2025 and beyond:

    https://www.niskanencenter.org/project-2025-unveiling-the-far-rights-plan-to-demolish-immigration-in-a-second-trump-term/

    Honestly, I’m just glad that I and all of my own (immediate) family have already acquired US citizenship by now. I’m incredibly grateful to have been able to immigrate to the US together with my family back in March 2001, back when the US was considerably more hostile towards immigration than it currently is.

    BTW, I personally support the Biden-GOP border deal both for Ukraine’s sake (I want more US aid to reach Ukraine) and also to help Biden’s 2024 election chances. But I don’t think that it will be anywhere near the end of the world if we’ll get an extra year’s worth of Latin Americans, Chinese, and Indians.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    "AP, you might be interested in Trump’s apparent immigration *plans* for 2025 and beyond:"

    (Corrected typo.)

  528. I find this clip where the Kurgan is assembling his sword to be incredibly funny.

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    In an absurdist sense. But I’m not sure whether it was supposed to be or not. I can’t decide.

    I do feel quite confident that the Chinese would not shoot such a scene though.

  529. AP says:
    @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    The ones who support an enemy at the time of war. Britain banned the fascists during World War II. America briefly banned the Communist Party during the Cold War (1954). For different reasons, Germany bans the Nazi Party.
     
    Do you think that it was a good idea for Ukraine to ban Medvedchuk's media empire back in 2021? If done after Russia's full-on invasion of Ukraine, then the answer would be obvious, but Russia's war with Ukraine was much more low-level back in 2021. On the flip side, though, would the US have actually allowed a hypothetical prominent pro-Taliban media outlet (say, founded and owned by some extremely wealthy radical Muslim businessman with US citizenship) to exist and operate in the US back in 2000 (before 9/11), or would it have still been deemed too much of a security risk? Any thoughts on this?

    Replies: @AP

    Do you think that it was a good idea for Ukraine to ban Medvedchuk’s media empire back in 2021? If done after Russia’s full-on invasion of Ukraine, then the answer would be obvious, but Russia’s war with Ukraine was much more low-level back in 2021

    I would compare that to banning the Communist Party in the USA and preventing Commies in the entertainment industry from influencing Americans by blacklisting them, during some of the Cold War. Except Ukraine’s case was more legitimate because the war, while very low level, was still somewhat hot.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    If the limitations on Communists in the entertainment industry were done by a government, such as in the terms of McCarthyism, then Yes, they would likely qualify for this. However, it's worth noting that a lot of what McCarthyism did was later declared unconstitutional by the courts and indeed McCarthyism is widely frowned upon in the US nowadays:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    And even the federal law that aimed to ban the US Communist Party was immediately identified as having constitutional problems, which is perhaps why it was almost never enforced and eventually declared unconstitutional by a lower US federal court (federal district court in Arizona).

    But the US has a rich history of free speech with the First Amendment. For countries without something similar, restrictions on free speech on national security grounds might sound more reasonable. For instance, would even a democratic interwar Poland have allowed pro-Nazi or pro-Soviet speech for as long as Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union would have been perceived as being hostile towards Poland? I know that in real life, both interwar Poland and interwar Romania banned their local Communist parties, in part on national security grounds, but of course both of these countries eventually became dictatorships in the interwar era as well.

  530. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    during WW2, Trujillo offered like 130,000 visas for single Jews to move to DR. Very few took him up on his offer. For those who did, it was primarily a stepping stone to the US. There are maybe under a dozen families with some Jewish descent today.
     
    Jews with families were not allowed to take him up on his offer?

    Anyway, I suspect that many more European Jews would have took him up on his offer had they actually been able to foresee that the Nazis would mass murder almost all of them. They expected discrimination, pogroms, ghettoization, anti-miscegenation laws, but not that. Not on a scale quite literally 1,000 times worse than what the Jim Crow Southern US did to its own blacks.


    have never seen a non-obese Dominican in the US. With Mexicans, you sometimes (rarely) get a Paterfamilias vibe, but not with Dominicans. Thought they were seen as a violent group around NYC, when they arrived.

     

    I'm not an expert on either NYC or Dominicans, so I can't comment on that. Weren't Italians also seen as a violent group around NYC when they arrived, though? They had a very serious mafia problem for decades, after all.

    isn’t that just woke rhetoric?

    Not “redlining” resulted in the 2008 housing collapse. It made houses unaffordable how did they suffer from covenants? Covenants applied against Jews and they materially prospered.
     
    I don't mean giving out loans to unqualified people, but simply not prohibiting people from living in certain areas due to their race. And Yes, Jews flourished in spite of racially restrictive housing covenants because they were able to create good neighborhoods from scratch, which the African-American Talented Tenth could not do because they had to deal with too many ghetto underclass blacks next door. So, they wanted to live in the much nicer white neighborhoods instead.

    Of course, the abolition of racially restrictive covenants was not an unequivocal blessing either. Northern US cities turned into dumps, which in turn facilitated white flight and later black Talented Tenth flight as well, which in turn made these cities even dumpier than they previously were. I don't like racially restrictive covenants and am glad that they don't exist, but I wonder if some kind of managed integration would have been much better in regards to this. It likely would have, most likely. Almost certainly, in fact.

    I obviously think that desegregation was a good thing but I think that certain issues, such as chronic black crime, make full integration both extremely difficult and undesirable to achieve, which is why I'm glad that a lot of US cities are mostly racially segregated in terms of their housing patterns (non-blacks don't want to live next to a lot of black crime, other than perhaps white gentrifiers) but at the same time also very glad that the law does not prohibit anyone from living in any part of the country, especially due to their race.

    Black democracy hasn’t been a success and is a joke, as blacks are block voters. The black congressional caucus wouldn’t stand much scrutiny. Remember that guy who had money in his freezer and the media were making excuses for him about blacks not trusting banks.
     
    Yes, unfortunately black and likely Hispanic US politicians are probably--perhaps very likely--more corrupt than US white and Asian politicians are. It's a huge shame and it's likely a function of average IQ differences. It's a good idea to keep the country smart enough to prevent corruption from getting out of control. Israel is somewhat similar in this regard, only a bit worse. Israel's old liberal Ashkenazi Jewish elite probably isn't that fond of stealing (though there are exceptions, such as Ehud Olmert), but ex-USSR Jews, Mizrahim, and religious Jews (such as the Ultra-Orthodox: ex: Aryeh Deri) are probably on average more fond of stealing. The ex-USSR Jews might be smart enough to eventually grow out of this habit, though, especially now that their political leadership has moved leftwards.

    The US spends an astronomical amount on policing. New York jails spend like $1 million/prisoner/year. And police become a tool for enforcing woke. I think it would be a much better society without these extra outlays.

    The US is a rich society, but much of the wealth is frittered into wasteful, dead ends. Crime is heritable.
     
    What about providing gene therapy for criminals long-term in exchange for reduced sentences that would allow criminals to reduce their criminal urges? They would have to constantly take this therapy to ensure that they would not relapse into old habits and be jailed if they refuse since consistently taking this therapy would be a condition for early release on probation for them.

    There is a limit to how much can be built. In the UK a lot of the green spaces are being developed.

    The question is: how does open borders benefit Europeans? The answer is pretty clearly that it doesn’t. The perception isn’t there that it benefits them.

    So, whose interests are you advocating for, when you advocate for it? And why elevate them above the interests of the natives?
     
    Well, I think that open borders for smart people would make Europe and the West stronger by giving the EU and the West more smart people to work with. But Yeah, for duller people, open borders mostly benefits them rather than Europeans. They could be exceptions: The Indian/Latin American nanny which allows more Western women to enter the workforce, for instance. But I'm mostly focusing on the benefits to the immigrants themselves. I don't want the West to become a dump, though, which is why I'm extremely wary of Muslim and African immigration. I would make an exception for liberal and progressive Muslims who want to reform their religion but can't do so back at home in their own countries due to the extremely high risk of them getting jailed and/or murdered for this, though. A much more liberal Islam would certainly benefit all of humanity, as would the spread of a much more liberal Christianity into Sub-Saharan Africa.

    If one only wanted to preserve the interests of Europeans, though, then one should only accept the smart immigrants or perhaps accept no one at all and be like Japan in the old days. Or only accept other European immigrants. Though there would still be the question of people of mixed European descent. Again, Israel accepts people who are 25+% Jewish and their immediate family members. Maybe Europe should do the same for Europeans, provided that they actually identify with Europe, European culture, and/or the West?

    Culture and political world is very similar. They have their own version of AA now. Blacks are often depicted improbably as the smart ones in film. Racism is seen as bad.

    Doesn’t the US IQ mean get rebalanced as time passes? From what I hear, many of the new groups aren’t functionally much smarter than the places that they come from. They have a great deal of trouble understanding directions. US mean IQ is definitely falling in absolute terms.

    Brazil is not a place to emulate by having open borders.
     
    The US still absorbs an extremely massive number of cognitively elitist immigrants from outside of the Western Hemisphere:

    https://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-09-26-braindrain/immigration.html

    https://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-09-26-braindrain/images/1.png

    It can likely absorb many more of them if there will ever actually be the political will to do so. Just make sure to settle them in places where a lot of new housing can be built, like Texas.

    I would prefer some kind of localism, but I don’t think he really does a good job articulating it.

    But I think enclaves would be a better model model of multiculturalism. They could be a way of getting foreign investment into African countries. (With a mutual system of benefit.). And they can be scaled or designated in a way that it wouldn’t result in fears of domination.
     
    I'm all in favor of white enclaves in the developing world, possibly even self-ruled ones, but this would require white fertility in the West to massively go back up so that the white world will once again have plenty of extra people to spare, as it had during the Industrial Revolution, when tens of millions of white people moved from Europe to the Americas.

    Replies: @songbird, @Coconuts

    Jews with families were not allowed to take him up on his offer?

    i don’t think it was so much about having children as being married. his idea was to try to get them to marry locals. He felt this would be eugenic. Possibly he was also concerned about integration, but eugenics seem to have been his main idea.

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    What about providing gene therapy for criminals long-term in exchange for reduced sentences that would allow criminals to reduce their criminal urges?

    My attitude towards crime is that cost reductionism is good. So I have no moral problem with the idea that hard criminals could be transported to some desert island and be allowed to walk about. As long as it was much cheaper, and they couldn’t escape and re-enter society. But I would be against any plan that allowed for recidivism.

    Weren’t Italians also seen as a violent group around NYC when they arrived, though? T

    I know people old enough to remember when Italians moved into the old neighborhood, and they say that they were violent and I do believe them. (Because why would they lie?)

    One, who is otherwise somewhat boomerish politically(though a bit older than a boomer blames the decline of his father on Italian youths beating him up. He didn’t see it, and his father didn’t say anything, but that is what he suspected happened. Whether it really happened I can’t say. But I do think enough happened to lead him to guess that.

    But Italians are super-Nords compared to Dominicans.

    Maybe Europe should do the same for Europeans, provided that they actually identify with Europe, European culture, and/or the West?

    I believe in the idea of bioculture.

    While self-identity or loyalty can be very important, I think only a regimented society can really police these things.

    Japan, which might be seen to be very strict. I think still has a problem with local gaijin or hapas being disruptive. Is it not detrimental, for a mulatto in Japan to claim that he is Japanese? Or for one to be crowned Miss Japan?

    I don’t think such a society is really possible on a mass scale. Perhaps , in a constrained geography, where people voluntarily come and have a right of exit. And where people have there own external cultural centers. A place sort of like Singapore. But Singapore is an IQ shredder.

  531. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    AP, you might be interested in Trump's apparent immigration pans for 2025 and beyond:

    https://www.niskanencenter.org/project-2025-unveiling-the-far-rights-plan-to-demolish-immigration-in-a-second-trump-term/

    Honestly, I'm just glad that I and all of my own (immediate) family have already acquired US citizenship by now. I'm incredibly grateful to have been able to immigrate to the US together with my family back in March 2001, back when the US was considerably more hostile towards immigration than it currently is.

    BTW, I personally support the Biden-GOP border deal both for Ukraine's sake (I want more US aid to reach Ukraine) and also to help Biden's 2024 election chances. But I don't think that it will be anywhere near the end of the world if we'll get an extra year's worth of Latin Americans, Chinese, and Indians.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    “AP, you might be interested in Trump’s apparent immigration *plans* for 2025 and beyond:”

    (Corrected typo.)

  532. S1 says:
    @LatW
    @S1

    The risk that Trump carries is too high (he probably would not fulfill his worst threats but why gamble your children's security on that?). This is why Macron et al have decided to step up. Also, France is a nuclear country that so far has followed the rules of deterrence, while Putin has been making nuclear threats for years now. One has to have self-respect to not give in to nuclear blackmail (otherwise you lose everything).


    It’s all about the creation of a global super-state, or ’empire’ as they sometimes call it, which by and large in theory precludes autarky, and ‘peoplehood’, which is anathema to those promoting a world state
     
    Well, this "global state" is something that's rather vague, while the Russian ultimatum and the Russian missiles are very concrete. The Russian cyber attack on the French hospitals is concrete.

    I agree that the global banking system is problematic in some very important aspects. However, I actually believe (hope) that this global commotion could actually remove some of the power from the so called "globalists". The global system so far relied on peace being self-evident and on some level of complacency. Some militancy and self-assertiveness could increase some types of nationalism (which may drive some of the power away from globalists). Ofc, this is speculative on my part.

    Why, isn't this what the Americans wanted? Americans urged the Euros for years to pick up the slack.

    Btw, I do not judge the French about what is happening in Africa, there is a lot of this post-colonial sentiment going on. The French do not want to impose if the local populations want to side with Russia (although that whole process is quite dirty there, if one is involving the Wagner company, the French Legion, while rough, is definitely a much cleaner institution).

    The French have their own defense doctrine, I think there are elements there that are quite independent of Anglos. Besides, this is more of an EU issue, this is the point from which Macron's position derives. Putin's ultimatum made the demand to meddle in the eternal affairs of the EU which is not acceptable to anyone. With every lost Ukrainian village, Putin gets closer to repeating the ultimatum. It looks like it won't be accepted.

    Replies: @S1

    Well, this “global state” is something that’s rather vague…

    The long standing plans to create a global super-state may seem ‘vague’, probably as intended, but I can assure you, they are quite real and concrete.

    As described in the effectively blacklisted 1853 book, The New Rome, which is excerpted and linked below, the establishment of the continental super-state of the United States of [North] America in 1776 was merely the first cog. The other continents of the world, including Europe, are being pushed by the US/UK to follow the US led example. In time, should they succeed, these newly formed continental super-states are to join together to form a global super-state, ie the ‘United States of the World’.

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/59/mode/1up

    ‘Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.’

    …while the Russian ultimatum and the Russian missiles are very concrete. The Russian cyber attack on the French hospitals is concrete.

    The US/UK have successfully goaded the Russians and Ukrainians into fighting a brutal war with the apparent intent that they destroy each other. For the same reason of near universal nation destruction they wish that the Baltics and the remainder of Europe join in this war.

    It’s a trap.

    As an alternative, people have their refusal, easier said than done to be sure. [While ideally peoples and nations wouldn’t fight at all, and they’d ‘bury the hachet’, sometimes the wounds run too deep for that. If you must fight, then at least fight on your own terms, and not terms set by others who do not have your best interests at heart.]

    Simplistically, there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war. Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity. [Well, a type of ‘peace’ one might suppose, ie the peace of the grave. But wouldn’t a life affirming peace be better?]

    [Bear in mind, I work on the principle that the US/UK already largely conquered the Earth, at the latest by about 1900 when the special relationship was formed between them. Though now hurting, these two powers still wield tremendous power. No question, there might be an intent by some that the US/UK is ultimately destroyed as well in WWIII.]

    From the same 1853 New Rome book as excerpted above. [With the by and large failure of the 1848 revolutions, was a decision then made that future ‘world wars’ centered in Europe would be necessary to bring about the desired revolutionary world state?]

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/67/mode/1up

    ‘Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people’s land..’

    ‘Wars are the results of mistaken ideas of interest and pride, possible only so long as the individual identifies his personal interests, not with those of humanity at large, but with those of a certain portion of humanity, with whom he speaks the same language, and whom he terms a nation.’

    ‘Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people’s land; a nation may be defined to be an organization for making war on other nations, killing their subjects and pillaging their property, or of robbing them of their substance by the peaceful means of commercial and industrial competition. Wars require armies; recurring wars, standing armies ; and armies, generals ; generalissimos are monarchs ; and thus the fictions of nationality are the causes of all the woes under which Europe is struggling. In 1848 the people rebelled against the excrescences of the principle ; but the rebellion was quelled by the yet unexpended force of the principle itself.’

    ‘Nationality, which enlisted the French republic against the Italian, caused the fall of both; nationality, which set the Italian upon the German, the German upon the Magyar, the Magyar against the Sclavonian, the Sclavonian against the German, and the German against the Dane, overthrew the republic in Italy, Germany, Hungary, Sclavonia, and Denmark, and reseated itself upon the ruins.’

    ‘Peoples without intercourse, a censorship without a literature, taxation without industry, custom-houses without commerce, and standing armies with none to fight against, but those they are paid to protect, and governments without law, — such are the brilliant triumphs which nationality has achieved. Europe is a kitchen of hellish cauldrons, none of which are to be disturbed in their task of annihilating all that lives within them; and the spirit of humanity sits like a prowling cat to wratch the work of destruction, but forbidden, on pain of burning its paws, to meddle or interfere.’

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S1


    Simplistically, there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war. Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity.
     
    Imagine there is no heaven.

    That's going to be the gospel. John Lennon god. Forrest Gump the saint of reckoning. You and I eat bugs and walk. Klaus Schlob and Greta Therber get to keep their stuff.

    They are going to have plenty of stuff.
    , @LatW
    @S1


    The long standing plans to create a global super-state may seem ‘vague’, probably as intended, but I can assure you, they are quite real and concrete.
     
    Of course, I am aware of certain negative aspects of globalism (not sure it's the same you're alluding to, it's mostly pertaining to finance), however, whether to call it a "global super-state"... I guess it would have to depend on the definition of "state". The concept of "corporation" can also be broadly applied these days. "Corporation within a state", and such descriptions. "Dynasty" is another interesting concept. "Corporate dynasty" or "Dynastic corporation".

    Someone here a while back liked to use "network" instead of state. Or "network state". A globalist state can also be a network, right? I have a more old fashioned definition of a state, more in line with the 1930s concepts.

    As described in the effectively blacklisted 1853 book, The New Rome
     
    What do you mean by "blacklisted"?

    The other continents of the world, including Europe, are being pushed by the US/UK to follow the US led example. In time, should they succeed, these newly formed continental super-states are to join together to form a global super-state, ie the ‘United States of the World’.
     
    Humans are social and driven instinctively to connect with others - so if you have vastly improved communications technology, this is bound to happen. Also, money often travels upwards, that's a problem. Wealth concentration. This is why wealth needs to be spread via physical public goods, such as infrastructure, medical science, political fairness and high standards on the ground, etc. But, yea, even with all these things in place and a seemingly high living standard, one can still have wealth concentration at the top and some kind of a globalized governance. But to be frank - lately it seems that all of this is falling apart in a way - look at how helpless the UN is and how indebted countries like China are. You'll probably say that these people behind the scenes are orchestrating this as well, a kind of a slow destruction to achieve their goals, but then where are those people? Everyone can be tracked down. The Earth has limited space. :)

    ‘Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.’
     
    Yes, that part is visible, but it's only a group of ideologues who intended it, not most Americans. It's similar to the crazy idea of world Communism. Could be the same idea in a different dressing. Btw, the current US administration seems like it has some serious Communist leanings (old tradition even in the US). Communism mixed with neoliberalism, which is insane. You could see that in Sullivan's last piece - he literally said "This global liberal system helps workers".

    Tbh, I think you're overestimating the power of America with the above quote. They have caused a lot of changes in the world society, but they cannot permeate everywhere. They are trying, but they have to exert quite an effort - the more complex the world becomes, the harder it will be for them. Some people are also checking out of their system (younger white males which used to be a big resource for all these powers).

    The US/UK have successfully goaded the Russians and Ukrainians into fighting a brutal war with the apparent intent that they destroy each other.
    For the same reason of near universal nation destruction they wish that the Baltics and the remainder of Europe join in this war. It’s a trap.

     

    The way it looks it's very easy to describe it as a trap. But then you have to admit that Putin, too, is a globalist, along with 70% of the Russian population who support him, because he is one of the main actors here (and he is not stupid enough to be led into a trap, although he might be messianic enough). Russia should've stopped coveting its neighbors in 1991 and to exert influence over them and found its own new path.

    Europe will not readily jump into this war (with troops). They will wait until Russia is more weakened. Russia may feel this and may try to attack first.

    The population of the EU is 440M, so the nations will not disappear just from one regional war. Which may or may not even happen on the EU soil. The problem is that others are involved too (North Korea, Iran, maybe even China - Ukraine is a sole European nation that is currently fighting all those, almost by itself).

    If you must fight, then at least fight on your own terms, and not terms set by others who do not have your best interests at heart.
     
    This is what Macron is thinking. But not every nation has the luxury to fight "on their terms". The Ukrainian nation was betrayed by the so called "international community". And they were also betrayed by Russia and Belarus.

    No question, there might be an intent by some that the US/UK is ultimately destroyed as well in WWIII.
     
    They have internal problems, the US in particular. Frankly, if I were you, I'd be more worried about the US, especially the demographic side. And maybe even the environmental side.

    there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war.
     
    These are utopian loonies, who think that this could change, there is a dialectic in the world, the world consists of differences that play against one another. These are the teachings of Heraclitus. And, btw, most nations do not even fight each other, many live peacefully side by side. The live peacefully more than they fight. Love and war are both parts of human existence.

    Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity.
     
    Individual humans will still fight each other, it's human nature. The human nature is both to love and to fight. Sounds like these loonies are just using excuses to be able to control and rob people. Robbing of identity is one of the worst, only robbing one of life and freedom is worse.

    ‘Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people’s land..’
     
    Yes, in the most primitive form, a nation is a war band. But not just to take land and other things, but to defend what's theirs. We may love the individual human being as the most valuable, but we are first and foremost a tribe.

    I know that some really hate that concept as it has become alien to them. Yet they do find "their tribe" elsewhere (in corporations, "special interest groups" or elsewhere).

    Some people think we are "earthlings", that's just so cute and naive. :) Who knows, it might be true...

    Replies: @S1

  533. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    during WW2, Trujillo offered like 130,000 visas for single Jews to move to DR. Very few took him up on his offer. For those who did, it was primarily a stepping stone to the US. There are maybe under a dozen families with some Jewish descent today.
     
    Jews with families were not allowed to take him up on his offer?

    Anyway, I suspect that many more European Jews would have took him up on his offer had they actually been able to foresee that the Nazis would mass murder almost all of them. They expected discrimination, pogroms, ghettoization, anti-miscegenation laws, but not that. Not on a scale quite literally 1,000 times worse than what the Jim Crow Southern US did to its own blacks.


    have never seen a non-obese Dominican in the US. With Mexicans, you sometimes (rarely) get a Paterfamilias vibe, but not with Dominicans. Thought they were seen as a violent group around NYC, when they arrived.

     

    I'm not an expert on either NYC or Dominicans, so I can't comment on that. Weren't Italians also seen as a violent group around NYC when they arrived, though? They had a very serious mafia problem for decades, after all.

    isn’t that just woke rhetoric?

    Not “redlining” resulted in the 2008 housing collapse. It made houses unaffordable how did they suffer from covenants? Covenants applied against Jews and they materially prospered.
     
    I don't mean giving out loans to unqualified people, but simply not prohibiting people from living in certain areas due to their race. And Yes, Jews flourished in spite of racially restrictive housing covenants because they were able to create good neighborhoods from scratch, which the African-American Talented Tenth could not do because they had to deal with too many ghetto underclass blacks next door. So, they wanted to live in the much nicer white neighborhoods instead.

    Of course, the abolition of racially restrictive covenants was not an unequivocal blessing either. Northern US cities turned into dumps, which in turn facilitated white flight and later black Talented Tenth flight as well, which in turn made these cities even dumpier than they previously were. I don't like racially restrictive covenants and am glad that they don't exist, but I wonder if some kind of managed integration would have been much better in regards to this. It likely would have, most likely. Almost certainly, in fact.

    I obviously think that desegregation was a good thing but I think that certain issues, such as chronic black crime, make full integration both extremely difficult and undesirable to achieve, which is why I'm glad that a lot of US cities are mostly racially segregated in terms of their housing patterns (non-blacks don't want to live next to a lot of black crime, other than perhaps white gentrifiers) but at the same time also very glad that the law does not prohibit anyone from living in any part of the country, especially due to their race.

    Black democracy hasn’t been a success and is a joke, as blacks are block voters. The black congressional caucus wouldn’t stand much scrutiny. Remember that guy who had money in his freezer and the media were making excuses for him about blacks not trusting banks.
     
    Yes, unfortunately black and likely Hispanic US politicians are probably--perhaps very likely--more corrupt than US white and Asian politicians are. It's a huge shame and it's likely a function of average IQ differences. It's a good idea to keep the country smart enough to prevent corruption from getting out of control. Israel is somewhat similar in this regard, only a bit worse. Israel's old liberal Ashkenazi Jewish elite probably isn't that fond of stealing (though there are exceptions, such as Ehud Olmert), but ex-USSR Jews, Mizrahim, and religious Jews (such as the Ultra-Orthodox: ex: Aryeh Deri) are probably on average more fond of stealing. The ex-USSR Jews might be smart enough to eventually grow out of this habit, though, especially now that their political leadership has moved leftwards.

    The US spends an astronomical amount on policing. New York jails spend like $1 million/prisoner/year. And police become a tool for enforcing woke. I think it would be a much better society without these extra outlays.

    The US is a rich society, but much of the wealth is frittered into wasteful, dead ends. Crime is heritable.
     
    What about providing gene therapy for criminals long-term in exchange for reduced sentences that would allow criminals to reduce their criminal urges? They would have to constantly take this therapy to ensure that they would not relapse into old habits and be jailed if they refuse since consistently taking this therapy would be a condition for early release on probation for them.

    There is a limit to how much can be built. In the UK a lot of the green spaces are being developed.

    The question is: how does open borders benefit Europeans? The answer is pretty clearly that it doesn’t. The perception isn’t there that it benefits them.

    So, whose interests are you advocating for, when you advocate for it? And why elevate them above the interests of the natives?
     
    Well, I think that open borders for smart people would make Europe and the West stronger by giving the EU and the West more smart people to work with. But Yeah, for duller people, open borders mostly benefits them rather than Europeans. They could be exceptions: The Indian/Latin American nanny which allows more Western women to enter the workforce, for instance. But I'm mostly focusing on the benefits to the immigrants themselves. I don't want the West to become a dump, though, which is why I'm extremely wary of Muslim and African immigration. I would make an exception for liberal and progressive Muslims who want to reform their religion but can't do so back at home in their own countries due to the extremely high risk of them getting jailed and/or murdered for this, though. A much more liberal Islam would certainly benefit all of humanity, as would the spread of a much more liberal Christianity into Sub-Saharan Africa.

    If one only wanted to preserve the interests of Europeans, though, then one should only accept the smart immigrants or perhaps accept no one at all and be like Japan in the old days. Or only accept other European immigrants. Though there would still be the question of people of mixed European descent. Again, Israel accepts people who are 25+% Jewish and their immediate family members. Maybe Europe should do the same for Europeans, provided that they actually identify with Europe, European culture, and/or the West?

    Culture and political world is very similar. They have their own version of AA now. Blacks are often depicted improbably as the smart ones in film. Racism is seen as bad.

    Doesn’t the US IQ mean get rebalanced as time passes? From what I hear, many of the new groups aren’t functionally much smarter than the places that they come from. They have a great deal of trouble understanding directions. US mean IQ is definitely falling in absolute terms.

    Brazil is not a place to emulate by having open borders.
     
    The US still absorbs an extremely massive number of cognitively elitist immigrants from outside of the Western Hemisphere:

    https://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-09-26-braindrain/immigration.html

    https://jsmp.dk/posts/2019-09-26-braindrain/images/1.png

    It can likely absorb many more of them if there will ever actually be the political will to do so. Just make sure to settle them in places where a lot of new housing can be built, like Texas.

    I would prefer some kind of localism, but I don’t think he really does a good job articulating it.

    But I think enclaves would be a better model model of multiculturalism. They could be a way of getting foreign investment into African countries. (With a mutual system of benefit.). And they can be scaled or designated in a way that it wouldn’t result in fears of domination.
     
    I'm all in favor of white enclaves in the developing world, possibly even self-ruled ones, but this would require white fertility in the West to massively go back up so that the white world will once again have plenty of extra people to spare, as it had during the Industrial Revolution, when tens of millions of white people moved from Europe to the Americas.

    Replies: @songbird, @Coconuts

    They expected discrimination, pogroms, ghettoization, anti-miscegenation laws, but not that. Not on a scale quite literally 1,000 times worse than what the Jim Crow Southern US did to its own blacks.

    I read about the lynchings some time ago, around the time of the BLM/Floyd thing in 2020, if I am remembering things correctly there were around 3,000? At the same time iirc the black population of the US has risen from an original base of something like 500,000 to the current 40 million, an 80 fold increase.

    Given this is so different to the case of the Holocaust some sociologists identify two distinct forms of racism, the racism of colonial societies which is based on maintaining some groups as subordinate or exploited, and another form which is based on racial threat and zero sum conflict between ethnic groups. The latter can lead to exterminatory policies.

  534. @songbird
    In 1978, ZIPRA shot down a civilian plane and killed such survivors as they could find.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Rhodesia_Flight_827

    As a consequence, the Rhodesians, though they had slim resources, immediately organized Operation Gatling to destroy the ZIPR headquarters located in Zambia.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gatling

    Now, less than 46 years later, a Zambian mulatto is the top man in the Welsh government.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaughan_Gething

    IMO, South Africa should have developed thermonuclear weapons.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    During the conflict in Portuguese Africa in the 1960s Dr. Salazar used to talk about the civilisational aspect, that the defence of the Portuguese Empire was related to the defence of Europe itself. He was already old by that time but probably one of the great political realists of the last century.

    This thing with all of the non-white leaders in Britain and Ireland may be the fulfillment of a cultural trend that goes back to the 60s, where there was a kind of ambient anti-whiteness, especially among influential parts of the cultural elite (like an expansion of the negrophile movement from earlier in the century).

    The interesting thing is where this is going to go next, the current situation looks a bit artificial for example and I doubt any of those leaders are going to usher in a new golden age.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Varadkar was in Boston a few days ago, and he called St. Patrick a migrant, which is funny on a variety of levels.

    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn't have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.

    I understand that they have tried to work woke iconography into St. Patrick's Day street decorations in Ireland (brown and black colors) I would like to see the reverse, with St. Patrick smiting gays like Varadkar and generally driving crowds of PoCs out of Ireland, perhaps, brown and black snakes. Or snakes found in certain countries near the Equator.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @LatW, @Coconuts

  535. @Coconuts
    @songbird

    During the conflict in Portuguese Africa in the 1960s Dr. Salazar used to talk about the civilisational aspect, that the defence of the Portuguese Empire was related to the defence of Europe itself. He was already old by that time but probably one of the great political realists of the last century.

    This thing with all of the non-white leaders in Britain and Ireland may be the fulfillment of a cultural trend that goes back to the 60s, where there was a kind of ambient anti-whiteness, especially among influential parts of the cultural elite (like an expansion of the negrophile movement from earlier in the century).

    The interesting thing is where this is going to go next, the current situation looks a bit artificial for example and I doubt any of those leaders are going to usher in a new golden age.

    Replies: @songbird

    Varadkar was in Boston a few days ago, and he called St. Patrick a migrant, which is funny on a variety of levels.

    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn’t have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.

    I understand that they have tried to work woke iconography into St. Patrick’s Day street decorations in Ireland (brown and black colors) I would like to see the reverse, with St. Patrick smiting gays like Varadkar and generally driving crowds of PoCs out of Ireland, perhaps, brown and black snakes. Or snakes found in certain countries near the Equator.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @songbird

    Well, Patrick was Welsh not Irish so there is that.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @LatW
    @songbird

    I'm going to make sure to buy some nice Irish butter this week (Kerrygold).

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Coconuts
    @songbird


    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn’t have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.
     

    This sort of thing seems to be getting more common, where there is obvious inconsistency between the way national/religious figures are now presented and the sort of beliefs that used to be associated with them.

    I'd guess the discoveries about the Bell Beaker migrations and things like that haven't managed to enter popular consciousness yet, so the relationship between the populations of the British Isles is possibly not that well known.

    It looks like the common trait behind these things is a tendency to underplay the radical break with the past that has taken place. In the case of the population of the British Isles, since the big migrations in the 3rd millennia the people didn't move very far until migration to North America and Australia and NZ started, and there no major new arrivals of people from outside of the immediate NW European region until even more recently.

    With St. Patrick, the general beliefs and moral view he represented was still the norm in Ireland and most of Europe for 1000 years+, until the last few decades.

    In these last two cases it seems to be recent enough to still cause cognitive dissonance in people who are quite young, say over 35?

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

  536. Someone told me that they treated two people to lunch on Friday.

    One or two of them were blacks and ordered big steaks. The person who treated them ordered fish because it was Lent, and one of the sides they ordered was string beans.

    The string beans were coated in bacon, though nothing was mentioned about it by the waiter.

    I thought this was really weird and fascinating, for a number of reasons. One because it shows secularizarion. Probably IQ decline, and also because Jews and Muslims don’t eat bacon and this is one of the major Jewish centers of the country.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Jews and Muslims don’t eat bacon and this is one of the major Jewish centers of the country
     
    .

    A Jewish friend of mine whose mother was Orthodox and kept a kosher kitchen used to come and visit us sometimes, and would special order BLT sandwiches that my mother would graciously serve him. He had a wonderful voice and ended up being a professional cantor that served in both reform and conservative synagogues. It was obvious to anybody that new him that he was very liberal ideologically (woke?) who also had a great fondness for smoking cannabis. Certainly not what would be looked upon as a stereotypical Trump supporter (Bernie Sanders was his guy). Probably not a very observant Jew from the criteria that I've read that kremlinstoogeA123 keeps reciting at this blog? :-)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

  537. @songbird
    Someone told me that they treated two people to lunch on Friday.

    One or two of them were blacks and ordered big steaks. The person who treated them ordered fish because it was Lent, and one of the sides they ordered was string beans.

    The string beans were coated in bacon, though nothing was mentioned about it by the waiter.

    I thought this was really weird and fascinating, for a number of reasons. One because it shows secularizarion. Probably IQ decline, and also because Jews and Muslims don't eat bacon and this is one of the major Jewish centers of the country.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Jews and Muslims don’t eat bacon and this is one of the major Jewish centers of the country

    .

    A Jewish friend of mine whose mother was Orthodox and kept a kosher kitchen used to come and visit us sometimes, and would special order BLT sandwiches that my mother would graciously serve him. He had a wonderful voice and ended up being a professional cantor that served in both reform and conservative synagogues. It was obvious to anybody that new him that he was very liberal ideologically (woke?) who also had a great fondness for smoking cannabis. Certainly not what would be looked upon as a stereotypical Trump supporter (Bernie Sanders was his guy). Probably not a very observant Jew from the criteria that I’ve read that kremlinstoogeA123 keeps reciting at this blog? 🙂

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    Also, I don't remember him every being in any way a cheerleader for any Islamic causes? According to kremlinstoogeA123, these sorts of Jews are all crypto Islamists, because they aren't really Jews in the first place?

    , @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    The majority of Jews that I have eaten lunch with (I.e. Reform) did eat pig products. But I wonder if that could be changing, the way Jewish demographics seem to be shifting?

    I recall eating lunch with an Orthodox fellow one day, and this other guy told him that he wasn't missing much by not eating ham. And I had to bite my tongue, not to qualify that and say that pig is a fantastic animal as it contains so many different cuts that might as well come from different animals. And that ham is very variable. A nice glazed ham can taste heavenly.

  538. I think bowheads were really the species that LatW wanted to derive longevity extracts from:

    [MORE]

    In May 2007, a 15 m (49 ft) specimen caught off the Alaskan coast was discovered with the 90 mm (3.5 in) head of an explosive bomb lance of a model manufactured between 1879 and 1885, so the whale was probably bomb lanced sometime between those years, and its age at the time of death was estimated at between 115 and 130 years.[33] Spurred by this discovery, scientists measured the ages of other bowhead whales; one specimen was estimated to be 211 years old.[34] Other bowhead whales were estimated to be between 135 and 172 years old. This discovery showed the longevity of the bowhead whale is much greater than originally thought.[35] Researchers at CSIRO, Australia’s national science agency, estimated that bowhead whales’ maximum natural lifespan is 268 years based on genetic analysis.[36]

    Through comparative analysis, two alleles that could be responsible for the whale’s longevity were identified. These two specific gene mutations linked to the bowhead whale’s ability to live longer are the ERCC1 gene and the proliferating cell nuclear antigen (PCNA) gene. ERCC1 is linked to DNA repair and increased cancer resistance. PCNA is also important in DNA repair

    Imagine the tragedy to transhumanists, if this great whale had become extinct.

    BTW, they can break through two feet of ice, which could be an endorsement for Mr. Hack to take ice baths.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowhead_whale

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I only take ice cold showers occasionally during the summer months. I take hot ones during the winter months to try and stay warm. Do you take "ice baths" all year long?

    Replies: @songbird

  539. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Jews and Muslims don’t eat bacon and this is one of the major Jewish centers of the country
     
    .

    A Jewish friend of mine whose mother was Orthodox and kept a kosher kitchen used to come and visit us sometimes, and would special order BLT sandwiches that my mother would graciously serve him. He had a wonderful voice and ended up being a professional cantor that served in both reform and conservative synagogues. It was obvious to anybody that new him that he was very liberal ideologically (woke?) who also had a great fondness for smoking cannabis. Certainly not what would be looked upon as a stereotypical Trump supporter (Bernie Sanders was his guy). Probably not a very observant Jew from the criteria that I've read that kremlinstoogeA123 keeps reciting at this blog? :-)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    Also, I don’t remember him every being in any way a cheerleader for any Islamic causes? According to kremlinstoogeA123, these sorts of Jews are all crypto Islamists, because they aren’t really Jews in the first place?

  540. @songbird
    I think bowheads were really the species that LatW wanted to derive longevity extracts from:

    In May 2007, a 15 m (49 ft) specimen caught off the Alaskan coast was discovered with the 90 mm (3.5 in) head of an explosive bomb lance of a model manufactured between 1879 and 1885, so the whale was probably bomb lanced sometime between those years, and its age at the time of death was estimated at between 115 and 130 years.[33] Spurred by this discovery, scientists measured the ages of other bowhead whales; one specimen was estimated to be 211 years old.[34] Other bowhead whales were estimated to be between 135 and 172 years old. This discovery showed the longevity of the bowhead whale is much greater than originally thought.[35] Researchers at CSIRO, Australia's national science agency, estimated that bowhead whales' maximum natural lifespan is 268 years based on genetic analysis.[36]

     


    Through comparative analysis, two alleles that could be responsible for the whale's longevity were identified. These two specific gene mutations linked to the bowhead whale's ability to live longer are the ERCC1 gene and the proliferating cell nuclear antigen (PCNA) gene. ERCC1 is linked to DNA repair and increased cancer resistance. PCNA is also important in DNA repair
     
    Imagine the tragedy to transhumanists, if this great whale had become extinct.

    BTW, they can break through two feet of ice, which could be an endorsement for Mr. Hack to take ice baths.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowhead_whale

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I only take ice cold showers occasionally during the summer months. I take hot ones during the winter months to try and stay warm. Do you take “ice baths” all year long?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Do you take “ice baths” all year long?
     
    Not me. I hate coldwater. The closest I have ever come to an ice bath is watching people jump into the ocean in January.

    But I thought it was a Slavic thing to jump in icy water.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @LatW

  541. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Jews and Muslims don’t eat bacon and this is one of the major Jewish centers of the country
     
    .

    A Jewish friend of mine whose mother was Orthodox and kept a kosher kitchen used to come and visit us sometimes, and would special order BLT sandwiches that my mother would graciously serve him. He had a wonderful voice and ended up being a professional cantor that served in both reform and conservative synagogues. It was obvious to anybody that new him that he was very liberal ideologically (woke?) who also had a great fondness for smoking cannabis. Certainly not what would be looked upon as a stereotypical Trump supporter (Bernie Sanders was his guy). Probably not a very observant Jew from the criteria that I've read that kremlinstoogeA123 keeps reciting at this blog? :-)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    The majority of Jews that I have eaten lunch with (I.e. Reform) did eat pig products. But I wonder if that could be changing, the way Jewish demographics seem to be shifting?

    I recall eating lunch with an Orthodox fellow one day, and this other guy told him that he wasn’t missing much by not eating ham. And I had to bite my tongue, not to qualify that and say that pig is a fantastic animal as it contains so many different cuts that might as well come from different animals. And that ham is very variable. A nice glazed ham can taste heavenly.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  542. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I only take ice cold showers occasionally during the summer months. I take hot ones during the winter months to try and stay warm. Do you take "ice baths" all year long?

    Replies: @songbird

    Do you take “ice baths” all year long?

    Not me. I hate coldwater. The closest I have ever come to an ice bath is watching people jump into the ocean in January.

    But I thought it was a Slavic thing to jump in icy water.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    But I thought it was a Slavic thing to jump in icy water.
     
    It's not as common as you might think, due to all of the celebrity interest in the event it seems more prevalent than it really is, which is the religious celebration of the feast of Epiphany that commemorates the Baptism of Jesus in the River Jordan. For most Orthodox Christians this holiday involves a trip to their local church where the priest blesses a large caldron of water and the faithful drink this water and take home a bottle or two for emergency situations. Long ago, my niece had developed bad case of chicken pox, and had ugly spots all over her body. At the same time a huge snowstorm had covered the land, and there was no way to drive her to any medical facility. One of those storms where you can't leave the house for at least three days...well, my sister was at her wits end and fortunately had a bottle of the holy water in her refrigerator. She took it out and dabbed her daughter all over her body with this precious water...hours later everything subsided and not one single pock mark had left its damaging calling card on my fair skinned niece's body. True story.

    Never been to or seen the famous dip into the river or lake and like you, am not crazy about ice cold water.....

    , @LatW
    @songbird

    Did you know that belugas really enjoy swallowing ice cubes? There are memes about it.

  543. @S1
    @LatW


    Well, this “global state” is something that’s rather vague...
     
    The long standing plans to create a global super-state may seem 'vague', probably as intended, but I can assure you, they are quite real and concrete.

    As described in the effectively blacklisted 1853 book, The New Rome, which is excerpted and linked below, the establishment of the continental super-state of the United States of [North] America in 1776 was merely the first cog. The other continents of the world, including Europe, are being pushed by the US/UK to follow the US led example. In time, should they succeed, these newly formed continental super-states are to join together to form a global super-state, ie the 'United States of the World'.

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/59/mode/1up

    'Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.'


    ...while the Russian ultimatum and the Russian missiles are very concrete. The Russian cyber attack on the French hospitals is concrete.

     

    The US/UK have successfully goaded the Russians and Ukrainians into fighting a brutal war with the apparent intent that they destroy each other. For the same reason of near universal nation destruction they wish that the Baltics and the remainder of Europe join in this war.

    It's a trap.

    As an alternative, people have their refusal, easier said than done to be sure. [While ideally peoples and nations wouldn't fight at all, and they'd 'bury the hachet', sometimes the wounds run too deep for that. If you must fight, then at least fight on your own terms, and not terms set by others who do not have your best interests at heart.]

    Simplistically, there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war. Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity. [Well, a type of 'peace' one might suppose, ie the peace of the grave. But wouldn't a life affirming peace be better?]

    [Bear in mind, I work on the principle that the US/UK already largely conquered the Earth, at the latest by about 1900 when the special relationship was formed between them. Though now hurting, these two powers still wield tremendous power. No question, there might be an intent by some that the US/UK is ultimately destroyed as well in WWIII.]

    From the same 1853 New Rome book as excerpted above. [With the by and large failure of the 1848 revolutions, was a decision then made that future 'world wars' centered in Europe would be necessary to bring about the desired revolutionary world state?]


    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/67/mode/1up

    'Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people's land..'


    'Wars are the results of mistaken ideas of interest and pride, possible only so long as the individual identifies his personal interests, not with those of humanity at large, but with those of a certain portion of humanity, with whom he speaks the same language, and whom he terms a nation.'

    'Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people's land; a nation may be defined to be an organization for making war on other nations, killing their subjects and pillaging their property, or of robbing them of their substance by the peaceful means of commercial and industrial competition. Wars require armies; recurring wars, standing armies ; and armies, generals ; generalissimos are monarchs ; and thus the fictions of nationality are the causes of all the woes under which Europe is struggling. In 1848 the people rebelled against the excrescences of the principle ; but the rebellion was quelled by the yet unexpended force of the principle itself.'

    'Nationality, which enlisted the French republic against the Italian, caused the fall of both; nationality, which set the Italian upon the German, the German upon the Magyar, the Magyar against the Sclavonian, the Sclavonian against the German, and the German against the Dane, overthrew the republic in Italy, Germany, Hungary, Sclavonia, and Denmark, and reseated itself upon the ruins.'

    'Peoples without intercourse, a censorship without a literature, taxation without industry, custom-houses without commerce, and standing armies with none to fight against, but those they are paid to protect, and governments without law, — such are the brilliant triumphs which nationality has achieved. Europe is a kitchen of hellish cauldrons, none of which are to be disturbed in their task of annihilating all that lives within them; and the spirit of humanity sits like a prowling cat to wratch the work of destruction, but forbidden, on pain of burning its paws, to meddle or interfere.'

     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    Simplistically, there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war. Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity.

    Imagine there is no heaven.

    That’s going to be the gospel. John Lennon god. Forrest Gump the saint of reckoning. You and I eat bugs and walk. Klaus Schlob and Greta Therber get to keep their stuff.

    They are going to have plenty of stuff.

    • Thanks: S1
    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  544. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Do you take “ice baths” all year long?
     
    Not me. I hate coldwater. The closest I have ever come to an ice bath is watching people jump into the ocean in January.

    But I thought it was a Slavic thing to jump in icy water.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @LatW

    But I thought it was a Slavic thing to jump in icy water.

    It’s not as common as you might think, due to all of the celebrity interest in the event it seems more prevalent than it really is, which is the religious celebration of the feast of Epiphany that commemorates the Baptism of Jesus in the River Jordan. For most Orthodox Christians this holiday involves a trip to their local church where the priest blesses a large caldron of water and the faithful drink this water and take home a bottle or two for emergency situations. Long ago, my niece had developed bad case of chicken pox, and had ugly spots all over her body. At the same time a huge snowstorm had covered the land, and there was no way to drive her to any medical facility. One of those storms where you can’t leave the house for at least three days…well, my sister was at her wits end and fortunately had a bottle of the holy water in her refrigerator. She took it out and dabbed her daughter all over her body with this precious water…hours later everything subsided and not one single pock mark had left its damaging calling card on my fair skinned niece’s body. True story.

    Never been to or seen the famous dip into the river or lake and like you, am not crazy about ice cold water…..

    • Thanks: songbird
  545. @AnonfromTN
    The results of Ukie shelling of Belgorod region in the last week.
    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
    Wounded – 84 civilians.

    Presumably they (and their puppeteers) meant to disrupt Russian elections and reduce participation. As usual, they achieved exactly the opposite: normal human reaction is to do whatever you can to spite those you despise. Numeorous posts in social media in Russian show that because of disgusting Ukie actions lots of people in the RF who never voted in the last 20-30 years decided to go and vote just to spite Ukies. Naturally, for that reason those people voted for Putin.

    The results of Russian elections:
    Participation – >72% (a record turnout for Russia; higher than the turnout ever recorded in any self-appointed “democratic” country).
    Vote for Putin – 87.28% (higher than any “democratic” leader can even dream of).

    Now, you might recall that Putin’s electoral support usually was in the 62-70% range. The West in general and their Ukie proxies in particular are responsible for this sizeable uptick of his support. There are several reasons for it. One, shear anger against the West and its murderous Ukie puppets. Two, many of those who used to vote for commies now voted for Putin specifically to spite Ukies and their masters. Three, Zhirinovsky’s party used to demonstrate harsher and more combative anti-Western stance. Now that Putin became harsher, those voters voted for him instead (the fact that Slutsky is a far cry from Zhirik also played a role). BTW, the vote for Davankov (“New people” party) was 3.85%, about 2-3-fold higher than popular support of libtards in the RF.

    Net result: idiotic actions by the West and Ukies did wonders to unite RF citizens and consolidate Putin’s power. Congratulations, morons!

    Special note for American libtards: unlike Biden, Putin won without stacks of mail-in ballots arriving at 3 am (when the US mail does not work).

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel, @AP

    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).

    I think she was only 14.

    Before launching a poorly planned invasion Putin should have thought about the more than likely consequences. Ukrainians killing civilians indiscriminately as a response is not exactly a surprising reaction.

    Anyway, what is Lake Baikal like this time of the year? Is it fully frozen? The pictures I’ve seen of that area are truly gorgeous. Will have to visit one day if things don’t get even worse.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    what is Lake Baikal like this time of the year?
     
    Lake Baikal in late February and early March is absolutely gorgeous. The views are fantastic and varied, lots of natural beauty, primeval drawings on the rocks, Buddhist stupa on the shore in one place, sacred ground of Butyat shamanists in the other (Olkhon island), etc. The lake fully freezes by this time of year, with the ice in most places 1-1.5 meters thick, so that cars and trucks drive on it. I had one lunch of fish soup with salo (salted pork fat) right on the ice (you can make a large fire to make fish soup w/o the danger of damaging thick ice), and another three-course lunch in a restaurant with all dining areas in pavilions built on ice. As it takes many months for the ice to freeze to this thickness, and as water expands when it freezes, Baikal ice has numerous cracks going in all directions, so that it looks a lot more beautiful and artistic that “modern art”. Also, because strong winds are usual in the area, the rocks around the lake carry frozen water up to 3-4 meters high. Locals make beautiful sculptures out of this ice in many places. On Okhon island and in township Listvyanka (Western shore, maybe 50-60 miles from Irkutsk) these ice sculptures are illuminated with changing colors in the dark. Although Buryat republic is on the Eastern shore, there are lots of Buryat on the Western side (Irkutsk region), and many places serve excellent Buryat food. E.g., Buryat “sagudai” (small pieces of raw fish with minimum of dressing) is way better than Latin American “seviche”, probably because much better-quality fish (Baikal omul) is used. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip. The fact that the tour group was only eight people added to its quality (added to the price, too; but we had trouble booking an expensive Baikal tour just two months ahead: everything was full, too many Russians who love to travel have lots of money to spare).

    I regret only one thing: I won’t live long enough to see all the remarkable places in the world I want to. My next targets in Russia are either Kamchatka peninsula (volcanoes, geysers, fantastic rock formations, unspoiled forests) in winter or the pole of cold (Oymyakon city) in the Republic of Saha (former Yakutia), where the temperatures plunge below -60oC. On the tour you get various Yakut foods and see local cows and horses with thick long hair. Outside of Russia I want to visit Iran, but have to wait until Iran and the RF agree on visa-free travel. You don’t want to go to Iran with an American passport. Russian passport is good, European passports may be OK.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel

    There is a fairly well known Russian road trip book the the 00's which title and author I can't recall. He wrote he had never seen so much litter in his lifetime of travel. He didn't go in the winter. I bet the place looks a lot nicer with snow covering up the litter. If that report is accurate.

    Thanks to Ano Tennessee for the trip report!

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @AP
    @Mikel

    Two years ago Russians in Belgorod were cheering and partying as missiles were being launched from their city into Kharkiv (someone was joking “Happy New Year”):



    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1770188972003611134?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

  546. @Mikhail
    @Philip Owen


    Russia’s attacks on Georgia and Ukraine were not idiotic?
     
    Not like Western neocon/neolib geopolitical advocacy which has been quite idiotic.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    On that we can agree. The answer is the EU.

  547. @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Varadkar was in Boston a few days ago, and he called St. Patrick a migrant, which is funny on a variety of levels.

    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn't have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.

    I understand that they have tried to work woke iconography into St. Patrick's Day street decorations in Ireland (brown and black colors) I would like to see the reverse, with St. Patrick smiting gays like Varadkar and generally driving crowds of PoCs out of Ireland, perhaps, brown and black snakes. Or snakes found in certain countries near the Equator.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @LatW, @Coconuts

    Well, Patrick was Welsh not Irish so there is that.

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Replies: @songbird
    @Philip Owen

    Sure, he belonged to a different cultural unit, but 50+ miles is not the same thing as 5000+ miles, and it is completely disingenuous for Varadkar to suggest it is.

    There are old annal entries in both places that refer to each other. But that can't be said of every place Earth.

    As well, foundational stock was similar and there has been flow. From slave raids, from Cambro-Normans, from miners who were Catholic. And generally before the open borders regime. I have relatives who are part Welsh.

  548. @AP
    @Mikel


    You arrived here and then by your admission engaged in stuff like trying to defraud banks by exaggerating your collateral


    I have never done that.
     
    You conveniently forgot to include my other words: "(implied, at least, because you said everyone does it)"

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-242/#comment-6423866

    And, regardless of any political considerations, it must have been a very long time since you last applied for a loan or a mortgage... You try to paint the most rosy picture of your business project that you can and then the bank accepts or declines your request based entirely on their own risk evaluation.

    If prosecutors started convicting every person who gives inaccurate information in a loan application, the justice system would simply collapse from one day to the other, along with business operations.
     
    Your normalization of inaccurate reporting to banks implies that you do that, also.

    despite not being an assimilated American I have a stronger connection to this country than you do

    You’ve just lived longer in the US, that’s all.
     
    Quantity is its own quality. I grew up here, so I have a connection to this place that you will never have. It's clear that you can't even understand that. You are a drifter, who voluntarily left his homeland and moved to different countries (Poland, Chile, USA?). I hope you have at least settled in some Basque enclave in the Great Basin, rather than dilute the Mormonism of wherever you live.

    But you have confessed that you’re going to vote for Biden,
     
    Probably, though we'll see if something new develops. I did vote for Trump last time.

    BTW the oldest and longest-settled parts of the country will likely vote for Biden.

    who has opened the US borders and caused the largest influx of illegal immigrants in US history
     
    You opposed the measure that would have limited the numbers. You follow Trump, who wants maximum carnage before the election in order to maximize his chances of winning. Party over country.

    You prefer the US to continue receiving millions of uneducated, unvetted immigrants from the 3rd World each year
     
    No that's you.

    Rather than support a deal which would limit the numbers (millions is a theoretical maximum but the border would have been shut by now because the automatic shut-down trigger would have been reached, so it would not have been millions).

    Why the deal? Because the American people elected a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. So the best that can be done is a flawed compromise which at least has automatic shut-downs and doesn't leave the border wide open.

    But you don't like compromises reflecting the voters' will. As a former South American, you may be comfortable with strongman corrupt caudillo rule and vote accordingly. The perils of allowing people such as you into my country.

    running the risk of a foreign country not receiving enough weapons paid for by US taxpayers
     
    The risk of another Cold War with a resurgent neo-Soviet empire is worse than building up the US military industry with jobs in the American heartland. Of course, as a foreign drifter who came to this country you probably don't care about American workers and communities because "muh taxes."

    Arguing about who has a “stronger connection” to the US is a retarded way of spending one’s time.
     
    There's nothing to argue about, foreign drifter/intruder.

    At least the illegals don't vote.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mikel

    I’m sure that when you’re typing this type of crap a little voice in your mind is telling you “don’t do it”. But you’re too weak. You’re unable to control your impulses against the advice of your better judgement and keep hitting the Publish button.

    More than anything else, you should stop this for your family. They don’t deserve a husband and father that spends hours on end crapping on the internet with petty personal battles. They know what you do all all that time you spend not paying attention to them. Perhaps they read everything you write here. Do you think they would feel proud of you?

    And that’s all I have to say in reply to your “arguments”. I do have a life and everybody here knows perfectly well who we are, what we stand for and who cares about what (except for JoJo maybe). The readers of this blog don’t deserve another round of crap either.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    More than anything else, you should stop this for your family. They don’t deserve a husband and father that spends hours on end crapping on the internet
     
    How much time do you think those posts took?

    I spend far less time sparring online than most people I know spend sparring via video games, or watching sports, or going golfing (activities I rarely do).

    And you are not one to mention fatherhood, given your history.

    But it’s noted and not unexpected that you had nothing to say about anything that was written.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Dmitry
    @Mikel

    From years with AP about unrelated topics, I had somehow a sensation his natural desire is to be a wealthy playboy who dates beautiful younger women, collects wine and drives Ferraris around the beach.

    So, his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that's domestication.It's not dating his secretaries and buying them Versace dresses using the children's future education bank accounts.

    -

    About the debate on who can call himself a "real American". AP is a real American, if he was born and schooling there. You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America, who has an American citizenship? You can say you are American legally, politically, probably not culturally.

    AnonfromTN is an Ukrainian from the USSR, even if he more years in Tennessee than Ukraine now. I don't think he should say to people "I'm a bluegrass American from Tennessee" even if he lives there to his 100th birthday, it's not a culturally native person.

    I exited Russia over 8 years ago, become more distant from Russia every year, don't think about it for days sometimes. But I can notice my dreams at night, are still back in Russia. Origins follow you like a shadow.

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

  549. France is training ~2,000 military personnel (part Foreign Legion, part regular troops) for the possibility of sending them to Ukraine to fight the RF.

    Two centuries ago Pushkin wrote verses where he invited foreigners to fight Russia. That was a few years after Russian troops were in Paris after defeating Napoleon. They enriched French language with the word “bistro”, which in Russian means “quickly” (in Russian the stress is on the first syllable, in French on the last). To be fair, Napoleon army also enriched Russian language: French word for horse (cheval, pronounced “shval”) in Russian now means something or someone worthless and pathetic.

    In his verse Pushkin said that Russian soil needs more fertilizer and promised that foreigners who come to fight Russia will be buried not very far from the graves of their ancestors. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Two centuries ago Pushkin wrote verses where he invited foreigners to fight Russia. That was a few years after Russian troops were in Paris after defeating Napoleon.

    Russian troops didn't defeat Napolean. They set Moscow on fire and let him freeze. It was an effective trap that wore down his military but he was not defeated.

    Napolean was defeated at Waterloo. His ego was really the problem just as with Putin.

    In his verse Pushkin said that Russian soil needs more fertilizer and promised that foreigners who come to fight Russia will be buried not very far from the graves of their ancestors. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    Pushkin was referring to a different era and would be appalled by the 2.5 week special operation now on year 2.

    I posted a video showing that Russia is not only throwing Nepalese contractors in the trenches but is not bothering to properly train or equip them.

    The French Foreign Legion has some of the most highly trained troops in the world. Nepalese and conscripted Russian farmers trying to take Odessa with FFL troops hidden among the buildings would be a bloodbath. Maybe Putin will finally conscript urban middle class Slavs but he seems to be willing to kill just about anyone before having to cross that line.

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    France is training ~2,000 military personnel (part Foreign Legion, part regular troops) for the possibility of sending them to Ukraine to fight the RF.
     
    BTW the head of the French Foreign Legion is an of ethnic Ukrainian descent born in France, Brigadier General Kyrylo Yushchenko:

    http://foreignlegion.info/2023/07/26/foreign-legion-2023-change-of-command/

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  550. Have heard someone familiar with Japan suggest that one of the ways Japanese differ is that they will not warn you that you are about to step into the path of an incoming truck.

    I find this really fascinating, as it is hard for me to believe it could be wholly cultural. I would suggest that it is a sign that the Japanese are naturally more introverted.

    BTW, this article has some interesting references to class in Japan.
    https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/how-do-elite-groups-form

    I know that you used to need to supply some kind of pedigree to apply to many Japanese jobs. Like, I believe Kurosawa (whose father was samurai class) had to when applying to a movie company. So it may be this contributed to the dominance of certain classes. (But Americans banned this.)

  551. @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
     
    I think she was only 14.

    Before launching a poorly planned invasion Putin should have thought about the more than likely consequences. Ukrainians killing civilians indiscriminately as a response is not exactly a surprising reaction.

    Anyway, what is Lake Baikal like this time of the year? Is it fully frozen? The pictures I've seen of that area are truly gorgeous. Will have to visit one day if things don't get even worse.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    what is Lake Baikal like this time of the year?

    Lake Baikal in late February and early March is absolutely gorgeous. The views are fantastic and varied, lots of natural beauty, primeval drawings on the rocks, Buddhist stupa on the shore in one place, sacred ground of Butyat shamanists in the other (Olkhon island), etc. The lake fully freezes by this time of year, with the ice in most places 1-1.5 meters thick, so that cars and trucks drive on it. I had one lunch of fish soup with salo (salted pork fat) right on the ice (you can make a large fire to make fish soup w/o the danger of damaging thick ice), and another three-course lunch in a restaurant with all dining areas in pavilions built on ice. As it takes many months for the ice to freeze to this thickness, and as water expands when it freezes, Baikal ice has numerous cracks going in all directions, so that it looks a lot more beautiful and artistic that “modern art”. Also, because strong winds are usual in the area, the rocks around the lake carry frozen water up to 3-4 meters high. Locals make beautiful sculptures out of this ice in many places. On Okhon island and in township Listvyanka (Western shore, maybe 50-60 miles from Irkutsk) these ice sculptures are illuminated with changing colors in the dark. Although Buryat republic is on the Eastern shore, there are lots of Buryat on the Western side (Irkutsk region), and many places serve excellent Buryat food. E.g., Buryat “sagudai” (small pieces of raw fish with minimum of dressing) is way better than Latin American “seviche”, probably because much better-quality fish (Baikal omul) is used. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip. The fact that the tour group was only eight people added to its quality (added to the price, too; but we had trouble booking an expensive Baikal tour just two months ahead: everything was full, too many Russians who love to travel have lots of money to spare).

    I regret only one thing: I won’t live long enough to see all the remarkable places in the world I want to. My next targets in Russia are either Kamchatka peninsula (volcanoes, geysers, fantastic rock formations, unspoiled forests) in winter or the pole of cold (Oymyakon city) in the Republic of Saha (former Yakutia), where the temperatures plunge below -60oC. On the tour you get various Yakut foods and see local cows and horses with thick long hair. Outside of Russia I want to visit Iran, but have to wait until Iran and the RF agree on visa-free travel. You don’t want to go to Iran with an American passport. Russian passport is good, European passports may be OK.

    • Thanks: Mikel
    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN

    Thanks for all those details. You have convinced me to visit Lake Baikal. Will have to convince my wife though. Both her and my son are waiting for my promised trip to China so I guess it will have to be after that. Ideally, I'd concatenate it with a visit to the Altai mountains. I never liked ceviche too much either. I guess it can be made to taste good but what you typically get in Latam is way below the culinary delicacy of sushi/sashami.

  552. @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    Even the French assembly during the Revolution era held elections.

    You’d think that doing so (open free fair elections) was the entire fucking point of of the state of Ukraine post Soviet era.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Even the French assembly during the Revolution era held elections.

    You’d think that doing so (open free fair elections) was the entire fucking point of of the state of Ukraine post Soviet era.

    What are you complaining about exactly? Zelensky was elected and defeated the pro-NATO candidate which negates the Putinite theory that Ukrainian elections are controlled by the West.

    Did you want to try answering this question?

    Did you believe that the Ukrainian occupied territory referendums to join Russia were credible?

  553. @AnonfromTN
    France is training ~2,000 military personnel (part Foreign Legion, part regular troops) for the possibility of sending them to Ukraine to fight the RF.

    Two centuries ago Pushkin wrote verses where he invited foreigners to fight Russia. That was a few years after Russian troops were in Paris after defeating Napoleon. They enriched French language with the word “bistro”, which in Russian means “quickly” (in Russian the stress is on the first syllable, in French on the last). To be fair, Napoleon army also enriched Russian language: French word for horse (cheval, pronounced “shval”) in Russian now means something or someone worthless and pathetic.

    In his verse Pushkin said that Russian soil needs more fertilizer and promised that foreigners who come to fight Russia will be buried not very far from the graves of their ancestors. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    Two centuries ago Pushkin wrote verses where he invited foreigners to fight Russia. That was a few years after Russian troops were in Paris after defeating Napoleon.

    Russian troops didn’t defeat Napolean. They set Moscow on fire and let him freeze. It was an effective trap that wore down his military but he was not defeated.

    Napolean was defeated at Waterloo. His ego was really the problem just as with Putin.

    In his verse Pushkin said that Russian soil needs more fertilizer and promised that foreigners who come to fight Russia will be buried not very far from the graves of their ancestors. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    Pushkin was referring to a different era and would be appalled by the 2.5 week special operation now on year 2.

    I posted a video showing that Russia is not only throwing Nepalese contractors in the trenches but is not bothering to properly train or equip them.

    The French Foreign Legion has some of the most highly trained troops in the world. Nepalese and conscripted Russian farmers trying to take Odessa with FFL troops hidden among the buildings would be a bloodbath. Maybe Putin will finally conscript urban middle class Slavs but he seems to be willing to kill just about anyone before having to cross that line.

  554. @Philip Owen
    @songbird

    Well, Patrick was Welsh not Irish so there is that.

    Replies: @songbird

    Sure, he belonged to a different cultural unit, but 50+ miles is not the same thing as 5000+ miles, and it is completely disingenuous for Varadkar to suggest it is.

    There are old annal entries in both places that refer to each other. But that can’t be said of every place Earth.

    As well, foundational stock was similar and there has been flow. From slave raids, from Cambro-Normans, from miners who were Catholic. And generally before the open borders regime. I have relatives who are part Welsh.

  555. This should cheer JJ and HA up.

    A C130 Hercules transport of the USAF (which in 2015 was used by Special Forces, no idea if it still is) left Tblisi, Georgia last night, and flew to Almaty, Kazakhstan.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#346a8e2c

    I hope (and assume) that Russia are aware that the Evil Empire are planning dirty deeds on the perimeter.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    C130's are big enough to carry Victoria Nuland's portable poop shack.

    https://www.newsweek.com/nato-builds-largest-europe-base-black-sea-romania-1880210

    Like I was saying, poking at Russia is idiotic. Would the Romanians have arrested Andrew Tate if he spewed their anti-Putin nonsense?

    Replies: @LatW

    , @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This should cheer JJ and HA up.

    I never need cheering.

    I'm normally happy as I have a family and a good life unlike Putin's army of criminal defenders and incels.

    That is no exaggeration.

    His top blogger defenders either don't have children or have a criminal record.

    His top UK defender has a history of fraud.

    The Whites he attracts either hate society or have been rejected (Ritter is blacklisted in US media for his sex crimes, the judge was fired for sexually harassing other men, and Anglin had to flee the US after a legal judgement).

    When this war is over I will financially benefit while his defenders will still be losers. I'll probably go to Vegas for a week with my wife in any scenario while dead Russians will remain dead.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  556. @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
     
    I think she was only 14.

    Before launching a poorly planned invasion Putin should have thought about the more than likely consequences. Ukrainians killing civilians indiscriminately as a response is not exactly a surprising reaction.

    Anyway, what is Lake Baikal like this time of the year? Is it fully frozen? The pictures I've seen of that area are truly gorgeous. Will have to visit one day if things don't get even worse.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    There is a fairly well known Russian road trip book the the 00’s which title and author I can’t recall. He wrote he had never seen so much litter in his lifetime of travel. He didn’t go in the winter. I bet the place looks a lot nicer with snow covering up the litter. If that report is accurate.

    Thanks to Ano Tennessee for the trip report!

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I haven't been to Russia in decades but I don't recall too much litter. Neighboring Belarus is quite clean. I've barely scratched the surface of Russia though. Just Moscow, Saint Petersburg and its surroundings and a very quick visit to the steppes around Rostov.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  557. @YetAnotherAnon
    This should cheer JJ and HA up.

    A C130 Hercules transport of the USAF (which in 2015 was used by Special Forces, no idea if it still is) left Tblisi, Georgia last night, and flew to Almaty, Kazakhstan.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#346a8e2c

    I hope (and assume) that Russia are aware that the Evil Empire are planning dirty deeds on the perimeter.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    C130’s are big enough to carry Victoria Nuland’s portable poop shack.

    https://www.newsweek.com/nato-builds-largest-europe-base-black-sea-romania-1880210

    Like I was saying, poking at Russia is idiotic. Would the Romanians have arrested Andrew Tate if he spewed their anti-Putin nonsense?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Would the Romanians have arrested Andrew Tate if he spewed their anti-Putin nonsense?
     
    The kind of activity he was involved in (Western PUA prostitution and pimping activity) goes hand in hand with a pro-Russia stance. It's a type that has proliferated in the West. They should stay away from E.Europe. Deal with your own women.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke

  558. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    what is Lake Baikal like this time of the year?
     
    Lake Baikal in late February and early March is absolutely gorgeous. The views are fantastic and varied, lots of natural beauty, primeval drawings on the rocks, Buddhist stupa on the shore in one place, sacred ground of Butyat shamanists in the other (Olkhon island), etc. The lake fully freezes by this time of year, with the ice in most places 1-1.5 meters thick, so that cars and trucks drive on it. I had one lunch of fish soup with salo (salted pork fat) right on the ice (you can make a large fire to make fish soup w/o the danger of damaging thick ice), and another three-course lunch in a restaurant with all dining areas in pavilions built on ice. As it takes many months for the ice to freeze to this thickness, and as water expands when it freezes, Baikal ice has numerous cracks going in all directions, so that it looks a lot more beautiful and artistic that “modern art”. Also, because strong winds are usual in the area, the rocks around the lake carry frozen water up to 3-4 meters high. Locals make beautiful sculptures out of this ice in many places. On Okhon island and in township Listvyanka (Western shore, maybe 50-60 miles from Irkutsk) these ice sculptures are illuminated with changing colors in the dark. Although Buryat republic is on the Eastern shore, there are lots of Buryat on the Western side (Irkutsk region), and many places serve excellent Buryat food. E.g., Buryat “sagudai” (small pieces of raw fish with minimum of dressing) is way better than Latin American “seviche”, probably because much better-quality fish (Baikal omul) is used. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip. The fact that the tour group was only eight people added to its quality (added to the price, too; but we had trouble booking an expensive Baikal tour just two months ahead: everything was full, too many Russians who love to travel have lots of money to spare).

    I regret only one thing: I won’t live long enough to see all the remarkable places in the world I want to. My next targets in Russia are either Kamchatka peninsula (volcanoes, geysers, fantastic rock formations, unspoiled forests) in winter or the pole of cold (Oymyakon city) in the Republic of Saha (former Yakutia), where the temperatures plunge below -60oC. On the tour you get various Yakut foods and see local cows and horses with thick long hair. Outside of Russia I want to visit Iran, but have to wait until Iran and the RF agree on visa-free travel. You don’t want to go to Iran with an American passport. Russian passport is good, European passports may be OK.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Thanks for all those details. You have convinced me to visit Lake Baikal. Will have to convince my wife though. Both her and my son are waiting for my promised trip to China so I guess it will have to be after that. Ideally, I’d concatenate it with a visit to the Altai mountains. I never liked ceviche too much either. I guess it can be made to taste good but what you typically get in Latam is way below the culinary delicacy of sushi/sashami.

  559. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel

    There is a fairly well known Russian road trip book the the 00's which title and author I can't recall. He wrote he had never seen so much litter in his lifetime of travel. He didn't go in the winter. I bet the place looks a lot nicer with snow covering up the litter. If that report is accurate.

    Thanks to Ano Tennessee for the trip report!

    Replies: @Mikel

    I haven’t been to Russia in decades but I don’t recall too much litter. Neighboring Belarus is quite clean. I’ve barely scratched the surface of Russia though. Just Moscow, Saint Petersburg and its surroundings and a very quick visit to the steppes around Rostov.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    I haven’t been to Russia in decades but I don’t recall too much litter.
     
    Cities in Russia were strewn with litter in the 1990s: libtard rule, state collapse, widespread looting of the assets by foreign and domestic thieves, rampant crime, abject poverty of the majority of the population. Moscow looked pathetic, like the New York city today (although it did not have rats in metro even back then).

    Russia was becoming progressively cleaner since then. Today Moscow (many square kilometers) is squeaky-clean, Irkutsk and other provincial capitals are quite clean. Even small townships, one on Olkhon island and Lystvyanka on the mainland that I saw on my trip, are quite clean (e.g., cleaner than Nashville). The roads in Moscow are in perfect state of repair, the ones around Irkutsk are also much better than around Nashville.

    Replies: @AP

  560. AP says:
    @Mikel
    @AP

    I'm sure that when you're typing this type of crap a little voice in your mind is telling you "don't do it". But you're too weak. You're unable to control your impulses against the advice of your better judgement and keep hitting the Publish button.

    More than anything else, you should stop this for your family. They don't deserve a husband and father that spends hours on end crapping on the internet with petty personal battles. They know what you do all all that time you spend not paying attention to them. Perhaps they read everything you write here. Do you think they would feel proud of you?

    And that's all I have to say in reply to your "arguments". I do have a life and everybody here knows perfectly well who we are, what we stand for and who cares about what (except for JoJo maybe). The readers of this blog don't deserve another round of crap either.

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

    More than anything else, you should stop this for your family. They don’t deserve a husband and father that spends hours on end crapping on the internet

    How much time do you think those posts took?

    I spend far less time sparring online than most people I know spend sparring via video games, or watching sports, or going golfing (activities I rarely do).

    And you are not one to mention fatherhood, given your history.

    But it’s noted and not unexpected that you had nothing to say about anything that was written.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AP

    How much time do you think those posts took?

    They probably a project a longer time not realizing that we don't have the ESL translation.

    I can type posts faster than I can talk to my in-laws on the phone.

    I thought I typed around 80wpm but my wife thinks it is closer to 110. She is probably right but I don't care enough to test.

    But I will probably post less now that the weather is better.

    Replies: @Mikel

  561. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    The results of Ukie shelling of Belgorod region in the last week.
    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
    Wounded – 84 civilians.

    Presumably they (and their puppeteers) meant to disrupt Russian elections and reduce participation. As usual, they achieved exactly the opposite: normal human reaction is to do whatever you can to spite those you despise. Numeorous posts in social media in Russian show that because of disgusting Ukie actions lots of people in the RF who never voted in the last 20-30 years decided to go and vote just to spite Ukies. Naturally, for that reason those people voted for Putin.

    The results of Russian elections:
    Participation – >72% (a record turnout for Russia; higher than the turnout ever recorded in any self-appointed “democratic” country).
    Vote for Putin – 87.28% (higher than any “democratic” leader can even dream of).

    Now, you might recall that Putin’s electoral support usually was in the 62-70% range. The West in general and their Ukie proxies in particular are responsible for this sizeable uptick of his support. There are several reasons for it. One, shear anger against the West and its murderous Ukie puppets. Two, many of those who used to vote for commies now voted for Putin specifically to spite Ukies and their masters. Three, Zhirinovsky’s party used to demonstrate harsher and more combative anti-Western stance. Now that Putin became harsher, those voters voted for him instead (the fact that Slutsky is a far cry from Zhirik also played a role). BTW, the vote for Davankov (“New people” party) was 3.85%, about 2-3-fold higher than popular support of libtards in the RF.

    Net result: idiotic actions by the West and Ukies did wonders to unite RF citizens and consolidate Putin’s power. Congratulations, morons!

    Special note for American libtards: unlike Biden, Putin won without stacks of mail-in ballots arriving at 3 am (when the US mail does not work).

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel, @AP

    The results of Ukie shelling of Belgorod region in the last week.
    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
    Wounded – 84 civilians.

    And how do you know these were not misfired Russian rockets or air defences?

    You know that Russians were shooting into Kharkiv and destroying downtown Kharkiv from Belgorod first. Did you think the Ukrainians would not shoot back at the ones shooting at them? Perhaps you should have condemned rather than supported Putin’s attack on Ukraine, with its tragic consequences for both Ukraine and Russia.

    The results of Russian elections:
    Participation – >72% (a record turnout for Russia; higher than the turnout ever recorded in any self-appointed “democratic” country).
    Vote for Putin – 87.28%

    Gullible AnoninTN believes those numbers. Even the 99% or whatever in Chechnya.

    Our former host has a great thread about Russian election fakery which he compares to Central Asian levels:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    I am glad you think that. If a person thinks that Biden’s election in 2020 was honest, anything that person thinks is guaranteed to be wrong.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Gullible AnoninTN believes those numbers. Even the 99% or whatever in Chechnya.
     
    ROFLMAO!!! That you write that proves , for about the 8 trillionth time, what a fantasist lying POS you are who has NEVER visited Ukraine or Russia. It defies belief that a retard as yourself could have any connection to Galicia and write such shameless nonsense.

    The story of inbred f**ktard Galician plankton in elections since 1991 is literally "99% or whatever" voting you serial fantasist dumbf**k. Even more hilariously, like no other place on the planet it's completely unbelievable in history to have one person be voted 95% AGAINST in one presidential election, then for the next election have the same set plankton vote 95% FOR the same candidate......as is the story of Galician khokhol voting with Kravchuk, then Kuchma, Timoshenko etc!!

    Russian regions of 404 at least always showed some level of sofistication in their voting. Its completely normal for people to vote for somebody from their region or who particularly represents the business interests of that region ( as has happened with the Donbass and Dnepropetrovsk clans). Galician bydlo of course have none of that - a parasitic, failed, heavily subsidised by Donbass/Novorossiayn regions for 30 years.....so just voted for whatever candidate Soros or State Department told them to. Giving banderatards the voting ballot is like giving a chimpanzee the controls of a 747.

    Again, highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk - but this 'vote" happened!! This is not democracy.......this is authoritarian, cretinous shitocracy you idiot.

    As for the legitimate high voting in Chechnya:

    1. Chechnya - the most subsidised region of Russia. Clear major, high standard improvement noticed when visiting there, clear prioritised ahead of other regions.......much higher standard of living than everywhere in 404 outside of Kiev and pre-2014 Donetsk
    2. Region with one of the highest percentages of pensioners - again a solid voting group for the authorities
    3. Voting, by self-definition because of what has happened in the last 30 years with both wars ....is a show of support for President/government - those anti-government often boycott, dead terrorists or exiles

    Ukronazi pussies also urinate themselves throughout the last 2 years and any confrontation with the Chechens. Against Russians it's different - the high level of death for them is the same but fighting Russians allows them to enjoy their favourite "national" tradition of being a deathcult - against Chechens it is less about deathcult inhibitions lost and more about total fear.

    Again, staggering, that even as a fantasist, you would not even know the history of Galician 90% , 100% voting. And this is voting for failure, incompetent, corrupt scum. In Russia we are voting for proven successful leader.

    Replies: @AP

  562. @YetAnotherAnon
    This should cheer JJ and HA up.

    A C130 Hercules transport of the USAF (which in 2015 was used by Special Forces, no idea if it still is) left Tblisi, Georgia last night, and flew to Almaty, Kazakhstan.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#346a8e2c

    I hope (and assume) that Russia are aware that the Evil Empire are planning dirty deeds on the perimeter.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    This should cheer JJ and HA up.

    I never need cheering.

    I’m normally happy as I have a family and a good life unlike Putin’s army of criminal defenders and incels.

    That is no exaggeration.

    His top blogger defenders either don’t have children or have a criminal record.

    His top UK defender has a history of fraud.

    The Whites he attracts either hate society or have been rejected (Ritter is blacklisted in US media for his sex crimes, the judge was fired for sexually harassing other men, and Anglin had to flee the US after a legal judgement).

    When this war is over I will financially benefit while his defenders will still be losers. I’ll probably go to Vegas for a week with my wife in any scenario while dead Russians will remain dead.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "When this war is over I will financially benefit"

    I wouldn't bank on all those GMO crops on the black soil of the Ukraine. They'll be Russian exports.

    Still, it's another heavy defeat for Germany, if not for Russia.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/18/german-living-standards-plummeted-after-russia-invaded-ukraine-say-economists


    The energy shock caused by America's destruction of Nordstream (for some reason the Guardian has misspelled this as "Russia’s invasion of Ukraine") has led to the biggest collapse in German living standards since the second world war and a downturn in economic output comparable to the 2008 financial crisis, a stark assessment has found.

    In a joint paper designed to underline the depth of the economic crisis in Europe’s erstwhile powerhouse, two former economic advisers to the German government have said that real wages in the country slumped further in 2022 than in any year since 1950.

    A failure to protect German industry from the energy price spike may turn the 2020s into “a lost decade for Germany” and further fuel the rise of the populist far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), the authors warned in a working paper published by the Forum for a New Economy.
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

  563. George Lucas has betrayed A123 by endorsing Bob Iger.

    Very curious as he once compared Disney to white slavers.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird


    George Lucas has betrayed A123 by endorsing Bob Iger.

    Very curious as he once compared Disney to white slavers.
     
    All the fans, not just me. It is indeed bizarre. Presumably, there is something more going out that has not leaked into the public yet.

    -- Perhaps there were some contacts between Lucas and Trian that did not go well?
    -- Or, Disney is forking over cash to buy George's public support?

    We should know more in a week or two.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  564. @AP
    @Mikel


    More than anything else, you should stop this for your family. They don’t deserve a husband and father that spends hours on end crapping on the internet
     
    How much time do you think those posts took?

    I spend far less time sparring online than most people I know spend sparring via video games, or watching sports, or going golfing (activities I rarely do).

    And you are not one to mention fatherhood, given your history.

    But it’s noted and not unexpected that you had nothing to say about anything that was written.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    How much time do you think those posts took?

    They probably a project a longer time not realizing that we don’t have the ESL translation.

    I can type posts faster than I can talk to my in-laws on the phone.

    I thought I typed around 80wpm but my wife thinks it is closer to 110. She is probably right but I don’t care enough to test.

    But I will probably post less now that the weather is better.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    They probably a project a longer time not realizing that we don’t have the ESL translation.
     
    Not having the ESL excuse makes posting crap even worse lol.

    Judge Engoron didn't convict Trump for his crimes in Las Vegas due to lack of jurisdiction? AnfromTN, who was talking about his daughter's graduation ceremony the other day, an incel? Perhaps you should type slower and let you fingers follow your brain rather than the other way around.

  565. @AnonfromTN
    France is training ~2,000 military personnel (part Foreign Legion, part regular troops) for the possibility of sending them to Ukraine to fight the RF.

    Two centuries ago Pushkin wrote verses where he invited foreigners to fight Russia. That was a few years after Russian troops were in Paris after defeating Napoleon. They enriched French language with the word “bistro”, which in Russian means “quickly” (in Russian the stress is on the first syllable, in French on the last). To be fair, Napoleon army also enriched Russian language: French word for horse (cheval, pronounced “shval”) in Russian now means something or someone worthless and pathetic.

    In his verse Pushkin said that Russian soil needs more fertilizer and promised that foreigners who come to fight Russia will be buried not very far from the graves of their ancestors. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    France is training ~2,000 military personnel (part Foreign Legion, part regular troops) for the possibility of sending them to Ukraine to fight the RF.

    BTW the head of the French Foreign Legion is an of ethnic Ukrainian descent born in France, Brigadier General Kyrylo Yushchenko:

    http://foreignlegion.info/2023/07/26/foreign-legion-2023-change-of-command/

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    BTW the head of the French Foreign Legion is an of ethnic Ukrainian descent born in France, Brigadier General Kyrylo Yushchenko:
     
    And the head of the VSU is an ethnic Russian, born in Russia, parents and brother living in Moscow, with an adopted son living in Australia.....who also thinks he's a scumbag. WTF is your point?

    Kyrylo Yushchenko
     
    OR, as his parents would know him as.........Kyrill Yushchenko. At least there is some genuine attempt at virtue signalling BS when Mr Hack does this artificial khokholisation. When a mentally deranged imbecile, who cant speak the language, and who I assume still writes "Nikolai Gogol" on here, as you do does it.............its highly comedic.

    ethnic Ukrainian descent
     
    1. No such thing exists

    2. Neither of us know if he's a Banderetard, white emigree or whatever type of heritage to explain how his family arrived in France or if he's 98% russian descent

    3. His name could genuinely not be Slavic at all but the actually the french equivalent of Cyril. He was born there - so that's normal. What is not normal, but typical for the failure Banderastan freakshow is Petliura , not being born in France , only lived there 1 0r 2 years ,having/changing his name to "Simon" instead of Semyon. I don't think he did this in France either!

    Literally WTF is it with the endless list of ukronazi scum - colossal failures, corrupt, sadistic, militarily useless, completely non-patriotic in actions.........and even in names!!!!
    Any other nationalist ideologist across the world in history ever changed their name AGAINST the side they are supposedly fighting for? A minor issue, but hugely symptomatic of khokholism generally.

    Replies: @AP

  566. I saw Trump’s speech in Ohio.

    In relation, to the debate about cognitive aging between Trump and Biden.

    Trump seems still cognitively very adequate. But, his personality and style of speaking, is like a stereotypical grandfather personality. I wonder if psychologists and gerontologists have a way of describing this.

    In the comparison, Romney who is also 77, is very cognitively adequate. But Romney, also still speaks in a professional way, like he was still a young manager. It feels like he has a personality of a younger professional.

    There is exaggeration about Biden’s cognitive aging in the media. He understands questions, answers these questions carefully and sensitively. But, he definitely has a stereotype of the “grandfather’s” personality.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Dmitry

    Trump is making a lot more gaffes compared to the last election.

    Just watch his Nashville speech where he gaffes and rambles:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deNpLg29_0E

    He also seems to take pride in initially knowing nothing about Golan and then signing it over.

    #NewCandidatesPlease

    Replies: @QCIC, @Dmitry

    , @QCIC
    @Dmitry

    I think Biden's mental capability is probably lower than widely believed. They probably have ten expert handlers working full time to make him look as good as possible considering his condition. I'm not referring to the normal Presidential PR and image team, I mean the special team charged solely with whitewashing the "Biden is obviously not mentally competent to be the President" issue.

    At some level most people don't care. Everyone knows Biden is not mentally fit and they also know that Kamala is not qualified to do anything important. In some administrations the lack of competence is hidden or maybe the VP doesn't matter so much if the President is strong. Now we have two evil clowns and no one cares.

    A vote for Biden this fall will be equivalent to the voter giving up on the vision of the American political system. The voter KNOWS Biden is a zero and therefore the job is being done by someone or some group behind the scenes about which we know NOTHING. A vote for Trump may not pan out, but at least it is not defeatist and may not be pointless.

  567. @Dmitry
    I saw Trump's speech in Ohio.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGJwCUHVgc0


    -

    In relation, to the debate about cognitive aging between Trump and Biden.

    Trump seems still cognitively very adequate. But, his personality and style of speaking, is like a stereotypical grandfather personality. I wonder if psychologists and gerontologists have a way of describing this.

    In the comparison, Romney who is also 77, is very cognitively adequate. But Romney, also still speaks in a professional way, like he was still a young manager. It feels like he has a personality of a younger professional.

    -

    There is exaggeration about Biden's cognitive aging in the media. He understands questions, answers these questions carefully and sensitively. But, he definitely has a stereotype of the "grandfather's" personality.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzqu48uup54

    Replies: @John Johnson, @QCIC

    Trump is making a lot more gaffes compared to the last election.

    Just watch his Nashville speech where he gaffes and rambles:

    He also seems to take pride in initially knowing nothing about Golan and then signing it over.

    #NewCandidatesPlease

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    After the questionable 2020 election results and the ridiculous follow up shenanigans against him, I doubt Trump takes the public relations so seriously.

    , @Dmitry
    @John Johnson

    Trump speaks coherently and adequately. He sometimes uses the incorrect words. It's a small proportion of the total speech.

    If you look at this video, he speaks for 3:36. There is only one wrong word, the rest of the speech was making sense so you can understand he intended to say "Jerusalem therefore became the capital".

    He is speaking those speeches without a teleprompter either? There's plenty young men couldn't do that.

    @ QCIC https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-244/#comment-6474168


    I think Biden’s mental capability is probably lower than widely believed. They probably have ten expert handlers working full time to make him look as good as possible

     

    He seems lazy and uninterested, like he has a team to prepare the answers for his questions.

    But, if question is about cognitive aging, it seems he can understand what he says, understands the questions. His memory is not so bad if he can remember the questions his team prepares also in those scripted appearances.


    The voter KNOWS Biden is a zero and therefore the job is being done by someone or some group behind the scenes about which we know NOTHING.

     

    Isn't it people like Blinken who are really doing the job?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2yZGU1o_tQ

    Replies: @A123

  568. @Mikel
    @AP

    I'm sure that when you're typing this type of crap a little voice in your mind is telling you "don't do it". But you're too weak. You're unable to control your impulses against the advice of your better judgement and keep hitting the Publish button.

    More than anything else, you should stop this for your family. They don't deserve a husband and father that spends hours on end crapping on the internet with petty personal battles. They know what you do all all that time you spend not paying attention to them. Perhaps they read everything you write here. Do you think they would feel proud of you?

    And that's all I have to say in reply to your "arguments". I do have a life and everybody here knows perfectly well who we are, what we stand for and who cares about what (except for JoJo maybe). The readers of this blog don't deserve another round of crap either.

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry

    From years with AP about unrelated topics, I had somehow a sensation his natural desire is to be a wealthy playboy who dates beautiful younger women, collects wine and drives Ferraris around the beach.

    So, his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that’s domestication.It’s not dating his secretaries and buying them Versace dresses using the children’s future education bank accounts.

    About the debate on who can call himself a “real American”. AP is a real American, if he was born and schooling there. You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America, who has an American citizenship? You can say you are American legally, politically, probably not culturally.

    AnonfromTN is an Ukrainian from the USSR, even if he more years in Tennessee than Ukraine now. I don’t think he should say to people “I’m a bluegrass American from Tennessee” even if he lives there to his 100th birthday, it’s not a culturally native person.

    I exited Russia over 8 years ago, become more distant from Russia every year, don’t think about it for days sometimes. But I can notice my dreams at night, are still back in Russia. Origins follow you like a shadow.

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.

    • Thanks: AP
    • Replies: @AP
    @Dmitry


    So, his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that’s domestication. It’s not dating his secretaries and buying them Versace dresses using the children’s future education bank accounts.
     
    Come on man, that is so vulgar.

    About the debate on who can call himself a “real American”. AP is a real American, if he was born and schooling there. You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America, who has an American citizenship? You can say you are American legally, politically, probably not culturally.

    ...

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.
     
    Exactly. And that is very obvious. One has to be really shallow and rootless on some level, to make a strange comment that it's only a matter of years. Or at least not be thinking when expressing such a rootless idea, suggestive of a lost wandering soul.



    About voices - yes there were plenty of Americans ones. But also, my parents and grandparents spoke only Ukrainian with me, I didn't speak English until kindergarten. And there was a Ukrainian church, and summer camps, etc. So I have roots in different worlds, but my American ones are real. Childhood smells of maple or pine trees, pledging allegiance to the flag, football with friends, country fairs, bonfire parties, shooting in the woods...
    , @Mikel
    @Dmitry


    You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America
     
    As much as you are a Hebrew who emigrated to Western Europe (but in reality less, from an ancestry perspective).

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground
     
    Most definitely.

    In my case, I wasn't only born in the Basque Country, I spent all of my formative years there and that heritage will remain with me forever. I will always be an American of immigrant origins in a less prosperous part of the world. But I don't need you to explain to me who I am. After all, everything you know on that subject is what you have read me say about myself lol.

    Besides, it's true that if you were born a donkey, you will never become a horse but the difference between donkeys and people is that we can adapt, change, assimilate and imagine the future. If you are planning to live in a country with your direct family and in all likelihood their descendants, which country are you most interested in seeing prosper: that one or the one across the ocean that you never plan to go back to?

    Of course, it's also quite common for people not to care much about their country. Some of them just because they despise their compatriots. You see this a lot in Latin America. I even felt that way too when terrorism was at its height in my home country. Some others, typically in the USA and many other Western countries, just take their nationality as an accident, something that they didn't choose or do anything to deserve, so not much of any value. They don't care much about the society they live in. And some others were born in unassimilated families of immigrant origins so their allegiance is more to the old country than to the new one. Quite typical among Hispanics in the USA and, apparently, among some Ukrainians as well. Basques used to be like that when they lived clustered in remote areas of the Western USA but, in my experience, they all tend to be well assimilated now. They're a pretty solid Republican constituency.

    his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that’s domestication.
     
    Unfortunately, I doubt that very much. He once confessed that having these online arguments is his hobby. And, indeed, that's what it looks like. It's not about typing speed at all. It's about how many days per week, how many times per day, what times of the day and above all, what quality of arguments. From there on, it's just pure arithmetic: he can't be paying a lot of attention to his family.

    In fact, I am guilty of that myself sometimes, even though I do take my breaks around the weekend and I almost only post when I am in front of the computer doing boring stuff as a way of procrastinating (same as you, I think).

    But I've come to the conclusion that Unz would do me a favor if he closed down this blog. The days of the effort posts by quality commenters are long gone and debates here are increasingly predictable and repetitive. Moreover, one of the issues of posting here too much is that over the years we all post a tremendous amount of personal stuff, leaving lots of breadcrumbs to be easily recognized in real life. As you once cleverly said, this blog is like the bar at the square of a Greek Island village, where everybody gathers to chat at the end of the day. I don't know about now but a couple of years ago I saw thousands of views on imgur if I posted a picture here so there may be a lot of silent viewers that the war porn of Jojo and the pervy porn of XYZ haven't yet scared away.

    Of course, I will never doxx anybody, not even my pal andy, but I have been able to figure out with certainty who a few of the commenters here are in real life. Sometimes you just add two plus two and do a Google search. Some other times, you happen to know somebody who knows somebody and voila, there it is. And that's without you having any prior knowledge of that person at all. Imagine if somebody who knows you personally lands on this blog, they're going to recognize you immediately. So again, my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn't be proud of if their loved ones saw it published online is: think twice or thrice before hitting the publish button. It may come to haunt you. And, as an added bonus, the discussions would be more civil and productive.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    , @songbird
    @Dmitry


    About the debate on who can call himself a “real American”. AP is a real American
     
    "American" was originally an ethnic term.

    But AP has denounced the foundations of that ethnic group. He has deconstructed their most important tale, their mythohistorical culture in a way that is indistinguishable from any leftist PoC.

    It is like if he had gone to Ukraine, spat on them, and then called them all Russians, but much, much worse than that because he has attributed to them some special hereditary sin, which far from helping the putative victims, is a key in any malevalent foreigner's hands.

    Not to mention, if George Washington were around today, AP would call him a "Putin-boot-licker."

    But he may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian, or, at least, if they were trying to embroil us in some foreign war.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Dmitry


    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.
     
    This is probably why I identify so much with the Jewish quarter of my ancestry due to my spending the first 8.5+ years of my life in Israel, learning Hebrew (which I subsequently almost completely forgot after I moved to the US, unfortunately), celebrating the Jewish holidays with my family and Jewish relatives in Israel, attending a semi-religious school in Israel (even though I'm not halakhically Jewish) because my parents believed that the public schools in Israel were too crappy, et cetera.

    I am patriotic towards the US and strongly identify with the US, though. I'm more loyal to the US than I am to Israel. But I'm still very aware of my Jewish identity, which I am proud of even though I am not halakhically Jewish and not even the child (as opposed to the grandchild) of someone who is. I am of course also vehemently repulsed by right-wing Jewish Israeli intolerance and bigotry towards people such as myself because our Jewish ancestry is on the "wrong" branch(es) of our family trees.

  569. LatW says:
    @S1
    @LatW


    Well, this “global state” is something that’s rather vague...
     
    The long standing plans to create a global super-state may seem 'vague', probably as intended, but I can assure you, they are quite real and concrete.

    As described in the effectively blacklisted 1853 book, The New Rome, which is excerpted and linked below, the establishment of the continental super-state of the United States of [North] America in 1776 was merely the first cog. The other continents of the world, including Europe, are being pushed by the US/UK to follow the US led example. In time, should they succeed, these newly formed continental super-states are to join together to form a global super-state, ie the 'United States of the World'.

    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/59/mode/1up

    'Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.'


    ...while the Russian ultimatum and the Russian missiles are very concrete. The Russian cyber attack on the French hospitals is concrete.

     

    The US/UK have successfully goaded the Russians and Ukrainians into fighting a brutal war with the apparent intent that they destroy each other. For the same reason of near universal nation destruction they wish that the Baltics and the remainder of Europe join in this war.

    It's a trap.

    As an alternative, people have their refusal, easier said than done to be sure. [While ideally peoples and nations wouldn't fight at all, and they'd 'bury the hachet', sometimes the wounds run too deep for that. If you must fight, then at least fight on your own terms, and not terms set by others who do not have your best interests at heart.]

    Simplistically, there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war. Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity. [Well, a type of 'peace' one might suppose, ie the peace of the grave. But wouldn't a life affirming peace be better?]

    [Bear in mind, I work on the principle that the US/UK already largely conquered the Earth, at the latest by about 1900 when the special relationship was formed between them. Though now hurting, these two powers still wield tremendous power. No question, there might be an intent by some that the US/UK is ultimately destroyed as well in WWIII.]

    From the same 1853 New Rome book as excerpted above. [With the by and large failure of the 1848 revolutions, was a decision then made that future 'world wars' centered in Europe would be necessary to bring about the desired revolutionary world state?]


    https://archive.org/details/newrome00poes/page/67/mode/1up

    'Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people's land..'


    'Wars are the results of mistaken ideas of interest and pride, possible only so long as the individual identifies his personal interests, not with those of humanity at large, but with those of a certain portion of humanity, with whom he speaks the same language, and whom he terms a nation.'

    'Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people's land; a nation may be defined to be an organization for making war on other nations, killing their subjects and pillaging their property, or of robbing them of their substance by the peaceful means of commercial and industrial competition. Wars require armies; recurring wars, standing armies ; and armies, generals ; generalissimos are monarchs ; and thus the fictions of nationality are the causes of all the woes under which Europe is struggling. In 1848 the people rebelled against the excrescences of the principle ; but the rebellion was quelled by the yet unexpended force of the principle itself.'

    'Nationality, which enlisted the French republic against the Italian, caused the fall of both; nationality, which set the Italian upon the German, the German upon the Magyar, the Magyar against the Sclavonian, the Sclavonian against the German, and the German against the Dane, overthrew the republic in Italy, Germany, Hungary, Sclavonia, and Denmark, and reseated itself upon the ruins.'

    'Peoples without intercourse, a censorship without a literature, taxation without industry, custom-houses without commerce, and standing armies with none to fight against, but those they are paid to protect, and governments without law, — such are the brilliant triumphs which nationality has achieved. Europe is a kitchen of hellish cauldrons, none of which are to be disturbed in their task of annihilating all that lives within them; and the spirit of humanity sits like a prowling cat to wratch the work of destruction, but forbidden, on pain of burning its paws, to meddle or interfere.'

     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    The long standing plans to create a global super-state may seem ‘vague’, probably as intended, but I can assure you, they are quite real and concrete.

    Of course, I am aware of certain negative aspects of globalism (not sure it’s the same you’re alluding to, it’s mostly pertaining to finance), however, whether to call it a “global super-state”… I guess it would have to depend on the definition of “state”. The concept of “corporation” can also be broadly applied these days. “Corporation within a state”, and such descriptions. “Dynasty” is another interesting concept. “Corporate dynasty” or “Dynastic corporation”.

    Someone here a while back liked to use “network” instead of state. Or “network state”. A globalist state can also be a network, right? I have a more old fashioned definition of a state, more in line with the 1930s concepts.

    [MORE]

    As described in the effectively blacklisted 1853 book, The New Rome

    What do you mean by “blacklisted”?

    The other continents of the world, including Europe, are being pushed by the US/UK to follow the US led example. In time, should they succeed, these newly formed continental super-states are to join together to form a global super-state, ie the ‘United States of the World’.

    Humans are social and driven instinctively to connect with others – so if you have vastly improved communications technology, this is bound to happen. Also, money often travels upwards, that’s a problem. Wealth concentration. This is why wealth needs to be spread via physical public goods, such as infrastructure, medical science, political fairness and high standards on the ground, etc. But, yea, even with all these things in place and a seemingly high living standard, one can still have wealth concentration at the top and some kind of a globalized governance. But to be frank – lately it seems that all of this is falling apart in a way – look at how helpless the UN is and how indebted countries like China are. You’ll probably say that these people behind the scenes are orchestrating this as well, a kind of a slow destruction to achieve their goals, but then where are those people? Everyone can be tracked down. The Earth has limited space. 🙂

    ‘Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.’

    Yes, that part is visible, but it’s only a group of ideologues who intended it, not most Americans. It’s similar to the crazy idea of world Communism. Could be the same idea in a different dressing. Btw, the current US administration seems like it has some serious Communist leanings (old tradition even in the US). Communism mixed with neoliberalism, which is insane. You could see that in Sullivan’s last piece – he literally said “This global liberal system helps workers”.

    Tbh, I think you’re overestimating the power of America with the above quote. They have caused a lot of changes in the world society, but they cannot permeate everywhere. They are trying, but they have to exert quite an effort – the more complex the world becomes, the harder it will be for them. Some people are also checking out of their system (younger white males which used to be a big resource for all these powers).

    The US/UK have successfully goaded the Russians and Ukrainians into fighting a brutal war with the apparent intent that they destroy each other.
    For the same reason of near universal nation destruction they wish that the Baltics and the remainder of Europe join in this war. It’s a trap.

    The way it looks it’s very easy to describe it as a trap. But then you have to admit that Putin, too, is a globalist, along with 70% of the Russian population who support him, because he is one of the main actors here (and he is not stupid enough to be led into a trap, although he might be messianic enough). Russia should’ve stopped coveting its neighbors in 1991 and to exert influence over them and found its own new path.

    Europe will not readily jump into this war (with troops). They will wait until Russia is more weakened. Russia may feel this and may try to attack first.

    The population of the EU is 440M, so the nations will not disappear just from one regional war. Which may or may not even happen on the EU soil. The problem is that others are involved too (North Korea, Iran, maybe even China – Ukraine is a sole European nation that is currently fighting all those, almost by itself).

    If you must fight, then at least fight on your own terms, and not terms set by others who do not have your best interests at heart.

    This is what Macron is thinking. But not every nation has the luxury to fight “on their terms”. The Ukrainian nation was betrayed by the so called “international community”. And they were also betrayed by Russia and Belarus.

    No question, there might be an intent by some that the US/UK is ultimately destroyed as well in WWIII.

    They have internal problems, the US in particular. Frankly, if I were you, I’d be more worried about the US, especially the demographic side. And maybe even the environmental side.

    there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war.

    These are utopian loonies, who think that this could change, there is a dialectic in the world, the world consists of differences that play against one another. These are the teachings of Heraclitus. And, btw, most nations do not even fight each other, many live peacefully side by side. The live peacefully more than they fight. Love and war are both parts of human existence.

    Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity.

    Individual humans will still fight each other, it’s human nature. The human nature is both to love and to fight. Sounds like these loonies are just using excuses to be able to control and rob people. Robbing of identity is one of the worst, only robbing one of life and freedom is worse.

    ‘Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people’s land..’

    Yes, in the most primitive form, a nation is a war band. But not just to take land and other things, but to defend what’s theirs. We may love the individual human being as the most valuable, but we are first and foremost a tribe.

    I know that some really hate that concept as it has become alien to them. Yet they do find “their tribe” elsewhere (in corporations, “special interest groups” or elsewhere).

    Some people think we are “earthlings”, that’s just so cute and naive. 🙂 Who knows, it might be true…

    • Replies: @S1
    @LatW


    What do you mean by “blacklisted”?
     
    I mean that you almost certainly will not have heard of the book (ie The New Rome) on any radio, newspaper, or, television, other than some obscure Marxist orientated academic journals, denouncing it as 'imperialist''. I think to an extent that's deliberate.



    ‘Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.’
     
    Yes, that part is visible, but it’s only a group of ideologues who intended it, not most Americans.
     
    One could say that since the founding of the United States there have been two America's at war with each other. The one America which wanted to be a traditional ethnically based country, and which people had been led to believe they had, particularly in time of war, and wished to simply be left alone, and another America, which was merely an 'idea', and wanted to create a global super-state, or 'empire', to be dominated by the US.

    While most people wanted the former, the latter minority 'ideologues' as you call them, often enough members of secret societies and their hangers on, have held the bulk of politicpower since the country was founded.

    It’s similar to the crazy idea of world Communism. Could be the same idea in a different dressing.
     
    Yes, Capitalism and Communism, rather than being diametrically opposed, are instead closely paralleling complimentary sister ideologies,. [But that shouldn't be too surprising, as heavy hitter Capitalist US founders Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and probably Ben Franklin, were quite involved at the ground floor of the founding of Communism in their support of (and involvement in) the proto-Communist French Revolution of 1789.]

    Btw, the current US administration seems like it has some serious Communist leanings (old tradition even in the US).
     
    You are very right. It does. [I'll have to stop here due to time constraints. I've been extremely busy of late. I haven't done your lengthy thoughtful response justice, I’m afraid.]

    Replies: @LatW

  570. @Dmitry
    I saw Trump's speech in Ohio.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGJwCUHVgc0


    -

    In relation, to the debate about cognitive aging between Trump and Biden.

    Trump seems still cognitively very adequate. But, his personality and style of speaking, is like a stereotypical grandfather personality. I wonder if psychologists and gerontologists have a way of describing this.

    In the comparison, Romney who is also 77, is very cognitively adequate. But Romney, also still speaks in a professional way, like he was still a young manager. It feels like he has a personality of a younger professional.

    -

    There is exaggeration about Biden's cognitive aging in the media. He understands questions, answers these questions carefully and sensitively. But, he definitely has a stereotype of the "grandfather's" personality.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzqu48uup54

    Replies: @John Johnson, @QCIC

    I think Biden’s mental capability is probably lower than widely believed. They probably have ten expert handlers working full time to make him look as good as possible considering his condition. I’m not referring to the normal Presidential PR and image team, I mean the special team charged solely with whitewashing the “Biden is obviously not mentally competent to be the President” issue.

    At some level most people don’t care. Everyone knows Biden is not mentally fit and they also know that Kamala is not qualified to do anything important. In some administrations the lack of competence is hidden or maybe the VP doesn’t matter so much if the President is strong. Now we have two evil clowns and no one cares.

    A vote for Biden this fall will be equivalent to the voter giving up on the vision of the American political system. The voter KNOWS Biden is a zero and therefore the job is being done by someone or some group behind the scenes about which we know NOTHING. A vote for Trump may not pan out, but at least it is not defeatist and may not be pointless.

  571. @John Johnson
    @Dmitry

    Trump is making a lot more gaffes compared to the last election.

    Just watch his Nashville speech where he gaffes and rambles:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deNpLg29_0E

    He also seems to take pride in initially knowing nothing about Golan and then signing it over.

    #NewCandidatesPlease

    Replies: @QCIC, @Dmitry

    After the questionable 2020 election results and the ridiculous follow up shenanigans against him, I doubt Trump takes the public relations so seriously.

  572. @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    This should cheer JJ and HA up.

    I never need cheering.

    I'm normally happy as I have a family and a good life unlike Putin's army of criminal defenders and incels.

    That is no exaggeration.

    His top blogger defenders either don't have children or have a criminal record.

    His top UK defender has a history of fraud.

    The Whites he attracts either hate society or have been rejected (Ritter is blacklisted in US media for his sex crimes, the judge was fired for sexually harassing other men, and Anglin had to flee the US after a legal judgement).

    When this war is over I will financially benefit while his defenders will still be losers. I'll probably go to Vegas for a week with my wife in any scenario while dead Russians will remain dead.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “When this war is over I will financially benefit”

    I wouldn’t bank on all those GMO crops on the black soil of the Ukraine. They’ll be Russian exports.

    Still, it’s another heavy defeat for Germany, if not for Russia.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/18/german-living-standards-plummeted-after-russia-invaded-ukraine-say-economists

    The energy shock caused by America’s destruction of Nordstream (for some reason the Guardian has misspelled this as “Russia’s invasion of Ukraine“) has led to the biggest collapse in German living standards since the second world war and a downturn in economic output comparable to the 2008 financial crisis, a stark assessment has found.

    In a joint paper designed to underline the depth of the economic crisis in Europe’s erstwhile powerhouse, two former economic advisers to the German government have said that real wages in the country slumped further in 2022 than in any year since 1950.

    A failure to protect German industry from the energy price spike may turn the 2020s into “a lost decade for Germany” and further fuel the rise of the populist far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), the authors warned in a working paper published by the Forum for a New Economy.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @YetAnotherAnon


    ...another heavy defeat for Germany
     
    Wars hurt everyone who is involved in them, even US will suffer negative consequences. The main losers in that order are: Ukraine...Germany, Balts, Eastern and Central Europe, Finland, Western Europe...Russia, Belarus, US.

    Turkey, China, India, Middle East are the main beneficiaries. Expanding Nato to Ukraine and then fighting a losing war over it could be the final catastrophic error for the Euro civilization. Everyone connected to it will be impacted, US heavily depends on prosperity of Europe. Germany is one the last truly industrialized parts of the West and sacrificing it for the remote dream of Nato having bases in Crimea was very stupid. Nulands-Bidens-McCains are visibly not very smart people. But why were they allowed to run amuck?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon


    “When this war is over I will financially benefit”
     
    I wouldn’t bank on all those GMO crops on the black soil of the Ukraine. They’ll be Russian exports.

    I don't have direct investments and I would profit even if Russia took all of Ukraine which is highly unlikely now that Putin is talking about making a buffer zone. I also fail to see how he can take Odesa and Kiev with his mishmash army of untrained conscripts and third world contractors that have Chechen guns in their backs. You need trained and professional soldiers to maintain a hostile city. Putin is doing everything to avoid conscripting middle class Slavs.

    When the war is over the stock market will have huge gains and I will go to Vegas. I'll sit in a hot tub and read about something else.

    Some Russian with his legs missing will hobble around a cold floor before blowing his brains out.

    That is the reality that you don't want to face. Any attempt at schadenfreude for Americans is a joke on the people that actually fight the war. It's even sadder than Anglin and the incel defense force trying to believe this war somehow sticks it to the Jews. I've asked him and his fans many times to explain how the Jews will lose when Russians die in trenches and their top response is........(drumroll)

    U MUST BE A JOO!!!!!!!

    A real brain trust.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  573. @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I haven't been to Russia in decades but I don't recall too much litter. Neighboring Belarus is quite clean. I've barely scratched the surface of Russia though. Just Moscow, Saint Petersburg and its surroundings and a very quick visit to the steppes around Rostov.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I haven’t been to Russia in decades but I don’t recall too much litter.

    Cities in Russia were strewn with litter in the 1990s: libtard rule, state collapse, widespread looting of the assets by foreign and domestic thieves, rampant crime, abject poverty of the majority of the population. Moscow looked pathetic, like the New York city today (although it did not have rats in metro even back then).

    Russia was becoming progressively cleaner since then. Today Moscow (many square kilometers) is squeaky-clean, Irkutsk and other provincial capitals are quite clean. Even small townships, one on Olkhon island and Lystvyanka on the mainland that I saw on my trip, are quite clean (e.g., cleaner than Nashville). The roads in Moscow are in perfect state of repair, the ones around Irkutsk are also much better than around Nashville.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    I was in Moscow for the first time in 1999 and it was clean in the center and in the metro. But there was garbage all over the place on the outskirts. I remember in the early 2000s, the beaches on the Moscow river or lakes were strewn with garbage, people just left all their trash there after picnics, no one cleaned up for themselves and the municipal authorities didn’t clean up either.

    This hasn’t been the case more recently.

    Kiev is rather clean, but when I was visiting , the locals were fond of saying that Moscow was much dirtier (they would comment if they saw some litter that it was terrible, but at least not like in Moscow). They were wrong - Moscow was noticeably cleaner than Kiev. But Russian villages had far more garbage everywhere than Ukrainian ones. If villages or the countryside is the soul of a nation, Ukraine had a healthier soul.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  574. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    The results of Ukie shelling of Belgorod region in the last week.
    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
    Wounded – 84 civilians.
     
    And how do you know these were not misfired Russian rockets or air defences?

    You know that Russians were shooting into Kharkiv and destroying downtown Kharkiv from Belgorod first. Did you think the Ukrainians would not shoot back at the ones shooting at them? Perhaps you should have condemned rather than supported Putin’s attack on Ukraine, with its tragic consequences for both Ukraine and Russia.

    The results of Russian elections:
    Participation – >72% (a record turnout for Russia; higher than the turnout ever recorded in any self-appointed “democratic” country).
    Vote for Putin – 87.28%
     
    Gullible AnoninTN believes those numbers. Even the 99% or whatever in Chechnya.

    Our former host has a great thread about Russian election fakery which he compares to Central Asian levels:



    https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1769507932759044242?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    I am glad you think that. If a person thinks that Biden’s election in 2020 was honest, anything that person thinks is guaranteed to be wrong.

    • LOL: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    If a person thinks that Biden’s election in 2020 was honest
     
    It wasn’t fair, because Biden’s team controlled the media (censorship of Hunter’s laptop), corporate America was opposed to him (how convenient that the vaccine was announced after the election), etc. but Biden did get more votes. As anyone who has spent time in various parts of the country would know. Trump was adored by many but hated by many more. His 2016 victory was very good luck.

    But your gullibility is well known.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN

    The REAL stolen election was Pennsylvania US Senate 2022. There's no way in Hell that the Deep State would ever allow a MAGA Muslim to win lol!

  575. Apparently there were Wrangle’s soldiers in the French Foreign Legion and some Ukrainian officers at the outset of it (the one AP mentioned above). Even now there is a large number of Ukrainians there (not surprising).

  576. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "When this war is over I will financially benefit"

    I wouldn't bank on all those GMO crops on the black soil of the Ukraine. They'll be Russian exports.

    Still, it's another heavy defeat for Germany, if not for Russia.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/18/german-living-standards-plummeted-after-russia-invaded-ukraine-say-economists


    The energy shock caused by America's destruction of Nordstream (for some reason the Guardian has misspelled this as "Russia’s invasion of Ukraine") has led to the biggest collapse in German living standards since the second world war and a downturn in economic output comparable to the 2008 financial crisis, a stark assessment has found.

    In a joint paper designed to underline the depth of the economic crisis in Europe’s erstwhile powerhouse, two former economic advisers to the German government have said that real wages in the country slumped further in 2022 than in any year since 1950.

    A failure to protect German industry from the energy price spike may turn the 2020s into “a lost decade for Germany” and further fuel the rise of the populist far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), the authors warned in a working paper published by the Forum for a New Economy.
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    …another heavy defeat for Germany

    Wars hurt everyone who is involved in them, even US will suffer negative consequences. The main losers in that order are: Ukraine…Germany, Balts, Eastern and Central Europe, Finland, Western Europe…Russia, Belarus, US.

    Turkey, China, India, Middle East are the main beneficiaries. Expanding Nato to Ukraine and then fighting a losing war over it could be the final catastrophic error for the Euro civilization. Everyone connected to it will be impacted, US heavily depends on prosperity of Europe. Germany is one the last truly industrialized parts of the West and sacrificing it for the remote dream of Nato having bases in Crimea was very stupid. Nulands-Bidens-McCains are visibly not very smart people. But why were they allowed to run amuck?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Beckow

    The UK is a pretty heavy loser too, but we had less to lose than Germany, certainly in the way of productive industry.

    " Germany is one the last truly industrialized parts of the West and sacrificing it for the remote dream of Nato having bases in Crimea was very stupid. "

    To be fair to Nuland and Co I think sundering Russia from Europe was the target, and so they were pretty successful. Germany is acceptable collateral damage.

    What I can't understand is why Germany has supinely accepted the fate that was chosen for them in Washington (or Langley). Where are the people demanding results from the NordStream investigations?

    Instead they're sitting in NATO bases thinking about destroying the Kerch bridge!

    "US wrecks our economy, let's help them with their global ambitions!"

    It is very sad to see BASF shutting production facilities down and reopening them in China.

    Replies: @Beckow

  577. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    I haven’t been to Russia in decades but I don’t recall too much litter.
     
    Cities in Russia were strewn with litter in the 1990s: libtard rule, state collapse, widespread looting of the assets by foreign and domestic thieves, rampant crime, abject poverty of the majority of the population. Moscow looked pathetic, like the New York city today (although it did not have rats in metro even back then).

    Russia was becoming progressively cleaner since then. Today Moscow (many square kilometers) is squeaky-clean, Irkutsk and other provincial capitals are quite clean. Even small townships, one on Olkhon island and Lystvyanka on the mainland that I saw on my trip, are quite clean (e.g., cleaner than Nashville). The roads in Moscow are in perfect state of repair, the ones around Irkutsk are also much better than around Nashville.

    Replies: @AP

    I was in Moscow for the first time in 1999 and it was clean in the center and in the metro. But there was garbage all over the place on the outskirts. I remember in the early 2000s, the beaches on the Moscow river or lakes were strewn with garbage, people just left all their trash there after picnics, no one cleaned up for themselves and the municipal authorities didn’t clean up either.

    This hasn’t been the case more recently.

    Kiev is rather clean, but when I was visiting , the locals were fond of saying that Moscow was much dirtier (they would comment if they saw some litter that it was terrible, but at least not like in Moscow). They were wrong – Moscow was noticeably cleaner than Kiev. But Russian villages had far more garbage everywhere than Ukrainian ones. If villages or the countryside is the soul of a nation, Ukraine had a healthier soul.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    If villages or the countryside is the soul of a nation, Ukraine had a healthier soul.
     
    This would mean that Western countries also have very healthy souls, no? After all, migrants generally don't settle in Western villages or in the Western countryside. Certainly nowhere near as much as in the Western cities and suburbs.
  578. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    I am glad you think that. If a person thinks that Biden’s election in 2020 was honest, anything that person thinks is guaranteed to be wrong.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

    If a person thinks that Biden’s election in 2020 was honest

    It wasn’t fair, because Biden’s team controlled the media (censorship of Hunter’s laptop), corporate America was opposed to him (how convenient that the vaccine was announced after the election), etc. but Biden did get more votes. As anyone who has spent time in various parts of the country would know. Trump was adored by many but hated by many more. His 2016 victory was very good luck.

    But your gullibility is well known.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    but Biden did get more votes
     
    Wow! Amazing gullibility even for a child. In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities, all happening in swing states, Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco and in crazy-red Kentucky, but more than Obama in all swing states except Florida. If you believe that Biden really got more votes than Trump, I have a bridge to sell you.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Is it safe to say that the corporate media was harsher on Bush than on Gore back in 2000, constantly repeating the false lie that Gore claimed to have invented the Internet, et cetera?

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/10/gore200710

    https://prospect.org/features/gored-media-bull/

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/101500a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/110700a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/020100a.html

    Granted, the media did report Bush's DUI story right before the 2000 election, so there was a bit more fairness in regards to that than in 2020 (I think that suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story was a big mistake on the media's part). On the flip side, though, none of the major-party candidates who ran in 2000 were as big of a threat to democracy as Trump himself was, so one could argue that the media was justified in being a bit more biased against Trump than against, say, Gore.

    The Left was consistent in regards to the vaccine in the sense that it did not like Comey making his pre-election announcements about Hillary's e-mails and thus they did not want to make any sudden announcements right before the 2020 election as well.

    Interestingly enough, Trump would have won in 2020 had he performed as well with whites that year as he did in 2016. He improved among minorities, maybe even significantly, relative to 2016 but fared slightly worse among whites.

  579. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    C130's are big enough to carry Victoria Nuland's portable poop shack.

    https://www.newsweek.com/nato-builds-largest-europe-base-black-sea-romania-1880210

    Like I was saying, poking at Russia is idiotic. Would the Romanians have arrested Andrew Tate if he spewed their anti-Putin nonsense?

    Replies: @LatW

    Would the Romanians have arrested Andrew Tate if he spewed their anti-Putin nonsense?

    The kind of activity he was involved in (Western PUA prostitution and pimping activity) goes hand in hand with a pro-Russia stance. It’s a type that has proliferated in the West. They should stay away from E.Europe. Deal with your own women.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW


    They should stay away from E.Europe. Deal with your own women.
     
    He is an international pimp businessman. He goes to where he can get the best value in whores. : )

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    There are many many PUA who do not like Putin. His invasion ruined their prostitution businesses in Ukraine.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  580. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    If a person thinks that Biden’s election in 2020 was honest
     
    It wasn’t fair, because Biden’s team controlled the media (censorship of Hunter’s laptop), corporate America was opposed to him (how convenient that the vaccine was announced after the election), etc. but Biden did get more votes. As anyone who has spent time in various parts of the country would know. Trump was adored by many but hated by many more. His 2016 victory was very good luck.

    But your gullibility is well known.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

    but Biden did get more votes

    Wow! Amazing gullibility even for a child. In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities, all happening in swing states, Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco and in crazy-red Kentucky, but more than Obama in all swing states except Florida. If you believe that Biden really got more votes than Trump, I have a bridge to sell you.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN

    Kentucky has been trending red for a long time. Even under Obama, the Democrats were somewhat more appealing to white working-class voters than they are right now. Obama almost won Missouri back in 2008, for instance, while both Hillary and Biden lost it in a landslide.

    Not sure about San Francisco, but maybe this could be explained at least in part by Trump doing better among minorities (as opposed to among whites) in 2020 relative to 2016?

    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    Child-Luke gullibility is your specialty.


    In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities
     
    Which ones?

    Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco
     
    You mean the radicals in SF were less excited by an old white guy? Does this surprise you?

    We have a robust 2 party system with plenty of Republicans involved in elections, and with a Republican president and numerous Republicans governors. If votes were actually miscounted or disgraced on a massive scale it would have been very easy to prove and would have been proven.

    Biden won unfairly because most of the media, the entertainment industry, and most of the corporate world worked against him, censoring certain information and convincing the people whom to vote for. He didn’t win because millions of votes were invented. He didn’t have to.

    It’s hilarious that you think the Russian official results were accurate but American ones weren’t. The ultimate gullible Soviet boomer.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AnonfromTN, @songbird

  581. @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Varadkar was in Boston a few days ago, and he called St. Patrick a migrant, which is funny on a variety of levels.

    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn't have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.

    I understand that they have tried to work woke iconography into St. Patrick's Day street decorations in Ireland (brown and black colors) I would like to see the reverse, with St. Patrick smiting gays like Varadkar and generally driving crowds of PoCs out of Ireland, perhaps, brown and black snakes. Or snakes found in certain countries near the Equator.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @LatW, @Coconuts

    I’m going to make sure to buy some nice Irish butter this week (Kerrygold).

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    I’m going to make sure to buy some nice Irish butter this week (Kerrygold
     
    Perhaps, I am a paranoid person, but honestly I must admit my instinct is to be distrustful of all Irish-branded products, for the fear that it is a trick by globohomo.

    For example, there is the soap brand Irish Spring, which a few years ago had a commercial about some Irish guy and his black best friend playing soccer in Ireland or something. Irish Spring doesn't really have any connection to Ireland. It was conceived as a marketing gimmick.

    I'm even a bit distrustful of Kerrygold, as I don't know exactly how it works. In theory, "cooperative" sounds good, but then I don't know about the nuts and bolts of it. Like, they acquired a Spanish cheese brand, which I have a little trouble understanding how that works.

    I have this deep suspicion that it is some kind of veneer. I do know that some agricultural companies in Ireland have been involved in bringing in migrant workers. Perhaps, that isn't as big a problem with pastoralism, where the milking involves machines?

    But maybe I shouldn't be suspicious. I once found a picture of someone who was my name twin leading a bunch of animals over a bridge to pasture. The place was the spot where the family farm was. I think he must be the branch that stayed. But they were sheep.

    For many hundreds of years cows were the most common and important livestock animal in Ireland, and it is even reflected in the archeological record.

    Did you know that belugas really enjoy swallowing ice cubes? There are memes about it.
     
    Killers too. I saw someone dump a cooler down one's mouth after giving it the fish inside. Strange and funny.

    Heard it has something to do with hydration. The dead dish that they eat don't have the same water content, so they need more water.

    Replies: @LatW

  582. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    If a person thinks that Biden’s election in 2020 was honest
     
    It wasn’t fair, because Biden’s team controlled the media (censorship of Hunter’s laptop), corporate America was opposed to him (how convenient that the vaccine was announced after the election), etc. but Biden did get more votes. As anyone who has spent time in various parts of the country would know. Trump was adored by many but hated by many more. His 2016 victory was very good luck.

    But your gullibility is well known.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

    Is it safe to say that the corporate media was harsher on Bush than on Gore back in 2000, constantly repeating the false lie that Gore claimed to have invented the Internet, et cetera?

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/10/gore200710

    https://prospect.org/features/gored-media-bull/

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/101500a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/110700a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/020100a.html

    Granted, the media did report Bush’s DUI story right before the 2000 election, so there was a bit more fairness in regards to that than in 2020 (I think that suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story was a big mistake on the media’s part). On the flip side, though, none of the major-party candidates who ran in 2000 were as big of a threat to democracy as Trump himself was, so one could argue that the media was justified in being a bit more biased against Trump than against, say, Gore.

    The Left was consistent in regards to the vaccine in the sense that it did not like Comey making his pre-election announcements about Hillary’s e-mails and thus they did not want to make any sudden announcements right before the 2020 election as well.

    Interestingly enough, Trump would have won in 2020 had he performed as well with whites that year as he did in 2016. He improved among minorities, maybe even significantly, relative to 2016 but fared slightly worse among whites.

  583. A123 says: • Website
    @songbird
    George Lucas has betrayed A123 by endorsing Bob Iger.

    Very curious as he once compared Disney to white slavers.

    Replies: @A123

    George Lucas has betrayed A123 by endorsing Bob Iger.

    Very curious as he once compared Disney to white slavers.

    All the fans, not just me. It is indeed bizarre. Presumably, there is something more going out that has not leaked into the public yet.

    — Perhaps there were some contacts between Lucas and Trian that did not go well?
    — Or, Disney is forking over cash to buy George’s public support?

    We should know more in a week or two.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123


    Or, Disney is forking over cash to buy George’s public support?
     
    After what they did to both Luke and Indy, it is hard for me to believe that they aren't blackmailing him.

    It doesn't seem like a natural reaction, unless it is some form of conflict avoidance.

    Replies: @A123

  584. @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    but Biden did get more votes
     
    Wow! Amazing gullibility even for a child. In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities, all happening in swing states, Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco and in crazy-red Kentucky, but more than Obama in all swing states except Florida. If you believe that Biden really got more votes than Trump, I have a bridge to sell you.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Kentucky has been trending red for a long time. Even under Obama, the Democrats were somewhat more appealing to white working-class voters than they are right now. Obama almost won Missouri back in 2008, for instance, while both Hillary and Biden lost it in a landslide.

    Not sure about San Francisco, but maybe this could be explained at least in part by Trump doing better among minorities (as opposed to among whites) in 2020 relative to 2016?

  585. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Do you take “ice baths” all year long?
     
    Not me. I hate coldwater. The closest I have ever come to an ice bath is watching people jump into the ocean in January.

    But I thought it was a Slavic thing to jump in icy water.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @LatW

    Did you know that belugas really enjoy swallowing ice cubes? There are memes about it.

  586. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    I was in Moscow for the first time in 1999 and it was clean in the center and in the metro. But there was garbage all over the place on the outskirts. I remember in the early 2000s, the beaches on the Moscow river or lakes were strewn with garbage, people just left all their trash there after picnics, no one cleaned up for themselves and the municipal authorities didn’t clean up either.

    This hasn’t been the case more recently.

    Kiev is rather clean, but when I was visiting , the locals were fond of saying that Moscow was much dirtier (they would comment if they saw some litter that it was terrible, but at least not like in Moscow). They were wrong - Moscow was noticeably cleaner than Kiev. But Russian villages had far more garbage everywhere than Ukrainian ones. If villages or the countryside is the soul of a nation, Ukraine had a healthier soul.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    If villages or the countryside is the soul of a nation, Ukraine had a healthier soul.

    This would mean that Western countries also have very healthy souls, no? After all, migrants generally don’t settle in Western villages or in the Western countryside. Certainly nowhere near as much as in the Western cities and suburbs.

  587. @Mikel
    @AnonfromTN


    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
     
    I think she was only 14.

    Before launching a poorly planned invasion Putin should have thought about the more than likely consequences. Ukrainians killing civilians indiscriminately as a response is not exactly a surprising reaction.

    Anyway, what is Lake Baikal like this time of the year? Is it fully frozen? The pictures I've seen of that area are truly gorgeous. Will have to visit one day if things don't get even worse.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    Two years ago Russians in Belgorod were cheering and partying as missiles were being launched from their city into Kharkiv (someone was joking “Happy New Year”):

    [MORE]

  588. @Beckow
    @YetAnotherAnon


    ...another heavy defeat for Germany
     
    Wars hurt everyone who is involved in them, even US will suffer negative consequences. The main losers in that order are: Ukraine...Germany, Balts, Eastern and Central Europe, Finland, Western Europe...Russia, Belarus, US.

    Turkey, China, India, Middle East are the main beneficiaries. Expanding Nato to Ukraine and then fighting a losing war over it could be the final catastrophic error for the Euro civilization. Everyone connected to it will be impacted, US heavily depends on prosperity of Europe. Germany is one the last truly industrialized parts of the West and sacrificing it for the remote dream of Nato having bases in Crimea was very stupid. Nulands-Bidens-McCains are visibly not very smart people. But why were they allowed to run amuck?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    The UK is a pretty heavy loser too, but we had less to lose than Germany, certainly in the way of productive industry.

    ” Germany is one the last truly industrialized parts of the West and sacrificing it for the remote dream of Nato having bases in Crimea was very stupid. “

    To be fair to Nuland and Co I think sundering Russia from Europe was the target, and so they were pretty successful. Germany is acceptable collateral damage.

    What I can’t understand is why Germany has supinely accepted the fate that was chosen for them in Washington (or Langley). Where are the people demanding results from the NordStream investigations?

    Instead they’re sitting in NATO bases thinking about destroying the Kerch bridge!

    “US wrecks our economy, let’s help them with their global ambitions!”

    It is very sad to see BASF shutting production facilities down and reopening them in China.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @YetAnotherAnon


    ...sundering Russia from Europe was the target, and so they were pretty successful.
     
    Not in way they imagined. We don't know for sure what was the overall plan - people will forever lie and deny what they were doing. At least for some the target was to somehow master Russia and its resources. Either by making Russia weak so it can be controlled (and exploited) or more ambitiously to install a Western puppet regime in Moscow and decentralize Russia so that each region cold be dealt with separately by the West. The crazy fringe even dreamt about splitting Russia.

    It depended on Russia sitting inactively like in the 90's. After Putin consolidated Russia and moved to protect Ossetia from Nato-allied Georgia, and after Crimea, they should have called it off. Russia was clearly willing to still agree to a deal.

    But they wanted it all and now they are getting a bloody nose. It was a mistake to make it all-important, Ukraine is not the place Nato can defeat Russia. But they are not very smart people, so they persisted and now don't know what to do.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  589. AP says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    but Biden did get more votes
     
    Wow! Amazing gullibility even for a child. In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities, all happening in swing states, Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco and in crazy-red Kentucky, but more than Obama in all swing states except Florida. If you believe that Biden really got more votes than Trump, I have a bridge to sell you.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Child-Luke gullibility is your specialty.

    In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities

    Which ones?

    Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco

    You mean the radicals in SF were less excited by an old white guy? Does this surprise you?

    We have a robust 2 party system with plenty of Republicans involved in elections, and with a Republican president and numerous Republicans governors. If votes were actually miscounted or disgraced on a massive scale it would have been very easy to prove and would have been proven.

    Biden won unfairly because most of the media, the entertainment industry, and most of the corporate world worked against him, censoring certain information and convincing the people whom to vote for. He didn’t win because millions of votes were invented. He didn’t have to.

    It’s hilarious that you think the Russian official results were accurate but American ones weren’t. The ultimate gullible Soviet boomer.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Biden won unfairly because most of the media, the entertainment industry, and most of the corporate world worked against him, censoring certain information and convincing the people whom to vote for. He didn’t win because millions of votes were invented. He didn’t have to.
     
    Would you likewise say that Bush won unfairly in 2000 because the media was biased in favor of him and against Gore? (And not to mention SCOTUS's whole intervention into the election. The fairest thing to do would have been to order a new, constitutional manual recount of all of Florida's six million ballots, under a uniform standard, and allow it to continue until January 6, 2001, when Congress would have counted the electoral votes for the 2000 election, in the hope that it would have successfully been completed by then, as it very likely would have been.)

    Replies: @AP

    , @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    Rejoice, you and other libtards will go to heaven: Christ said, “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:3).

    , @songbird
    @AP


    Child-Luke gullibility is your specialty.
     
    It is true that Luke was just a farmboy to start with, and he may have accepted his Uncle Owen's false story about his father being a "restless" moisture-farmer too readily.

    And it is also true that he was very trusting of Obi-Wan, who was a stranger to him, but some might call that discernment. And as to the first, isn't that just filial piety in a Confucian sense? (Respecting one's uncle.)

  590. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Would the Romanians have arrested Andrew Tate if he spewed their anti-Putin nonsense?
     
    The kind of activity he was involved in (Western PUA prostitution and pimping activity) goes hand in hand with a pro-Russia stance. It's a type that has proliferated in the West. They should stay away from E.Europe. Deal with your own women.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke

    They should stay away from E.Europe. Deal with your own women.

    He is an international pimp businessman. He goes to where he can get the best value in whores. : )

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    No, he was just preying on a vulnerable population - at home, he would be put in his place in no time (wouldn't be allowed to operate - or would prey on dysfunctional women). Point was he was arrested and expelled for criminal activity, not politics. Even though pro-Putinists, too, should be expelled. Most PUAs are pro-Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

  591. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW


    They should stay away from E.Europe. Deal with your own women.
     
    He is an international pimp businessman. He goes to where he can get the best value in whores. : )

    Replies: @LatW

    No, he was just preying on a vulnerable population – at home, he would be put in his place in no time (wouldn’t be allowed to operate – or would prey on dysfunctional women). Point was he was arrested and expelled for criminal activity, not politics. Even though pro-Putinists, too, should be expelled. Most PUAs are pro-Russia.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    Frankly, he could have benefitted from an extremely realistic sexy female robot that would have whispered "Sexy lord!" in his ear while having sex with him. That way, he wouldn't have actually felt compelled to prey on real women--at least hopefully.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    I know virtually nothing about that business. It is very possible you know far more than me!

    , @QCIC
    @LatW

    I saw a clip of Joe Rogan claiming that Andrew Tate is gay. This is none of my business and not important but might be interesting. I don't have a strong opinion, except that in the Tate video clips I have watched, his "harem" of babes always seemed pretty unattractive and not well aligned with the image he promotes. I'm sure there are some very attractive women in Romania...probably from Moldova. I suppose Rogan could have been jerking Tate's chain.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

  592. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    Do you think that it was a good idea for Ukraine to ban Medvedchuk’s media empire back in 2021? If done after Russia’s full-on invasion of Ukraine, then the answer would be obvious, but Russia’s war with Ukraine was much more low-level back in 2021
     
    I would compare that to banning the Communist Party in the USA and preventing Commies in the entertainment industry from influencing Americans by blacklisting them, during some of the Cold War. Except Ukraine's case was more legitimate because the war, while very low level, was still somewhat hot.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    If the limitations on Communists in the entertainment industry were done by a government, such as in the terms of McCarthyism, then Yes, they would likely qualify for this. However, it’s worth noting that a lot of what McCarthyism did was later declared unconstitutional by the courts and indeed McCarthyism is widely frowned upon in the US nowadays:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    And even the federal law that aimed to ban the US Communist Party was immediately identified as having constitutional problems, which is perhaps why it was almost never enforced and eventually declared unconstitutional by a lower US federal court (federal district court in Arizona).

    But the US has a rich history of free speech with the First Amendment. For countries without something similar, restrictions on free speech on national security grounds might sound more reasonable. For instance, would even a democratic interwar Poland have allowed pro-Nazi or pro-Soviet speech for as long as Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union would have been perceived as being hostile towards Poland? I know that in real life, both interwar Poland and interwar Romania banned their local Communist parties, in part on national security grounds, but of course both of these countries eventually became dictatorships in the interwar era as well.

  593. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    No, he was just preying on a vulnerable population - at home, he would be put in his place in no time (wouldn't be allowed to operate - or would prey on dysfunctional women). Point was he was arrested and expelled for criminal activity, not politics. Even though pro-Putinists, too, should be expelled. Most PUAs are pro-Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    Frankly, he could have benefitted from an extremely realistic sexy female robot that would have whispered “Sexy lord!” in his ear while having sex with him. That way, he wouldn’t have actually felt compelled to prey on real women–at least hopefully.

  594. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    Child-Luke gullibility is your specialty.


    In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities
     
    Which ones?

    Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco
     
    You mean the radicals in SF were less excited by an old white guy? Does this surprise you?

    We have a robust 2 party system with plenty of Republicans involved in elections, and with a Republican president and numerous Republicans governors. If votes were actually miscounted or disgraced on a massive scale it would have been very easy to prove and would have been proven.

    Biden won unfairly because most of the media, the entertainment industry, and most of the corporate world worked against him, censoring certain information and convincing the people whom to vote for. He didn’t win because millions of votes were invented. He didn’t have to.

    It’s hilarious that you think the Russian official results were accurate but American ones weren’t. The ultimate gullible Soviet boomer.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    Biden won unfairly because most of the media, the entertainment industry, and most of the corporate world worked against him, censoring certain information and convincing the people whom to vote for. He didn’t win because millions of votes were invented. He didn’t have to.

    Would you likewise say that Bush won unfairly in 2000 because the media was biased in favor of him and against Gore? (And not to mention SCOTUS’s whole intervention into the election. The fairest thing to do would have been to order a new, constitutional manual recount of all of Florida’s six million ballots, under a uniform standard, and allow it to continue until January 6, 2001, when Congress would have counted the electoral votes for the 2000 election, in the hope that it would have successfully been completed by then, as it very likely would have been.)

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    Would you likewise say that Bush won unfairly in 2000 because the media was biased in favor of him and against Gore?
     
    Was it? It was much more even then, but still more leftist than rightist. Bush had Fox and Rush Limbaugh, but the three networks leaned left.

    The fairest thing to do would have been to order a new, constitutional manual recount of all of Florida’s six million ballots, under a uniform standard, and allow it to continue until January 6, 2001, when Congress would have counted the electoral votes for the 2000 election, in the hope that it would have successfully been completed by then, as it very likely would have been
     
    Sounds right.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  595. @LatW
    @songbird

    I'm going to make sure to buy some nice Irish butter this week (Kerrygold).

    Replies: @songbird

    I’m going to make sure to buy some nice Irish butter this week (Kerrygold

    Perhaps, I am a paranoid person, but honestly I must admit my instinct is to be distrustful of all Irish-branded products, for the fear that it is a trick by globohomo.

    [MORE]

    For example, there is the soap brand Irish Spring, which a few years ago had a commercial about some Irish guy and his black best friend playing soccer in Ireland or something. Irish Spring doesn’t really have any connection to Ireland. It was conceived as a marketing gimmick.

    I’m even a bit distrustful of Kerrygold, as I don’t know exactly how it works. In theory, “cooperative” sounds good, but then I don’t know about the nuts and bolts of it. Like, they acquired a Spanish cheese brand, which I have a little trouble understanding how that works.

    I have this deep suspicion that it is some kind of veneer. I do know that some agricultural companies in Ireland have been involved in bringing in migrant workers. Perhaps, that isn’t as big a problem with pastoralism, where the milking involves machines?

    But maybe I shouldn’t be suspicious. I once found a picture of someone who was my name twin leading a bunch of animals over a bridge to pasture. The place was the spot where the family farm was. I think he must be the branch that stayed. But they were sheep.

    For many hundreds of years cows were the most common and important livestock animal in Ireland, and it is even reflected in the archeological record.

    Did you know that belugas really enjoy swallowing ice cubes? There are memes about it.

    Killers too. I saw someone dump a cooler down one’s mouth after giving it the fish inside. Strange and funny.

    Heard it has something to do with hydration. The dead dish that they eat don’t have the same water content, so they need more water.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Irish-branded products
     
    Irish branded is something different than Irish owned or Irish created, anyone can brand their product as Irish.

    Tbh, I was wondering about this very thing. I typically buy a local butter. But Kerrygold and Land O Lakes are huge brands, so I was wondering if they are still owned by actual Irish. It's decent quality. If these were coming from smaller farms, they might be more expensive.
  596. @songbird
    @LatW


    I’m going to make sure to buy some nice Irish butter this week (Kerrygold
     
    Perhaps, I am a paranoid person, but honestly I must admit my instinct is to be distrustful of all Irish-branded products, for the fear that it is a trick by globohomo.

    For example, there is the soap brand Irish Spring, which a few years ago had a commercial about some Irish guy and his black best friend playing soccer in Ireland or something. Irish Spring doesn't really have any connection to Ireland. It was conceived as a marketing gimmick.

    I'm even a bit distrustful of Kerrygold, as I don't know exactly how it works. In theory, "cooperative" sounds good, but then I don't know about the nuts and bolts of it. Like, they acquired a Spanish cheese brand, which I have a little trouble understanding how that works.

    I have this deep suspicion that it is some kind of veneer. I do know that some agricultural companies in Ireland have been involved in bringing in migrant workers. Perhaps, that isn't as big a problem with pastoralism, where the milking involves machines?

    But maybe I shouldn't be suspicious. I once found a picture of someone who was my name twin leading a bunch of animals over a bridge to pasture. The place was the spot where the family farm was. I think he must be the branch that stayed. But they were sheep.

    For many hundreds of years cows were the most common and important livestock animal in Ireland, and it is even reflected in the archeological record.

    Did you know that belugas really enjoy swallowing ice cubes? There are memes about it.
     
    Killers too. I saw someone dump a cooler down one's mouth after giving it the fish inside. Strange and funny.

    Heard it has something to do with hydration. The dead dish that they eat don't have the same water content, so they need more water.

    Replies: @LatW

    Irish-branded products

    Irish branded is something different than Irish owned or Irish created, anyone can brand their product as Irish.

    Tbh, I was wondering about this very thing. I typically buy a local butter. But Kerrygold and Land O Lakes are huge brands, so I was wondering if they are still owned by actual Irish. It’s decent quality. If these were coming from smaller farms, they might be more expensive.

  597. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    Child-Luke gullibility is your specialty.


    In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities
     
    Which ones?

    Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco
     
    You mean the radicals in SF were less excited by an old white guy? Does this surprise you?

    We have a robust 2 party system with plenty of Republicans involved in elections, and with a Republican president and numerous Republicans governors. If votes were actually miscounted or disgraced on a massive scale it would have been very easy to prove and would have been proven.

    Biden won unfairly because most of the media, the entertainment industry, and most of the corporate world worked against him, censoring certain information and convincing the people whom to vote for. He didn’t win because millions of votes were invented. He didn’t have to.

    It’s hilarious that you think the Russian official results were accurate but American ones weren’t. The ultimate gullible Soviet boomer.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    Rejoice, you and other libtards will go to heaven: Christ said, “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:3).

  598. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Biden won unfairly because most of the media, the entertainment industry, and most of the corporate world worked against him, censoring certain information and convincing the people whom to vote for. He didn’t win because millions of votes were invented. He didn’t have to.
     
    Would you likewise say that Bush won unfairly in 2000 because the media was biased in favor of him and against Gore? (And not to mention SCOTUS's whole intervention into the election. The fairest thing to do would have been to order a new, constitutional manual recount of all of Florida's six million ballots, under a uniform standard, and allow it to continue until January 6, 2001, when Congress would have counted the electoral votes for the 2000 election, in the hope that it would have successfully been completed by then, as it very likely would have been.)

    Replies: @AP

    Would you likewise say that Bush won unfairly in 2000 because the media was biased in favor of him and against Gore?

    Was it? It was much more even then, but still more leftist than rightist. Bush had Fox and Rush Limbaugh, but the three networks leaned left.

    The fairest thing to do would have been to order a new, constitutional manual recount of all of Florida’s six million ballots, under a uniform standard, and allow it to continue until January 6, 2001, when Congress would have counted the electoral votes for the 2000 election, in the hope that it would have successfully been completed by then, as it very likely would have been

    Sounds right.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Was it? It was much more even then, but still more leftist than rightist. Bush had Fox and Rush Limbaugh, but the three networks leaned left.

     

    Yes, but did even the left-wing networks particularly like Gore? In my post #587 here, I specifically linked to several articles which complained about the media being biased against Gore, some from during the 2000 campaign and some from after it but still from the 2000s. I will respond all of the links to them here right now:

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/10/gore200710

    https://prospect.org/features/gored-media-bull/

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/101500a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/110700a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/020100a.html

    One of these articles (the second-to-last one above) even mentions a private citizen suing the New York Times for constantly publishing false information about Al Gore.


    Sounds right.

     

    Yeah. Only manually recounting the undervotes and overvotes would have been unfair since there could have been ballots among those that were accepted as valid votes by Florida's voting machines which should not have been accepted and were only accepted by mistake. Specifically those ballots where a voter marked two candidates on his ballot but the machine only read one of these marks and thus treated this ballot as a valid vote instead of as an invalid ballot like it was supposed to have done.

    From Bush v. Gore:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZPC.html

    "In addition, the recounts in these three counties were not limited to so-called undervotes but extended to all of the ballots. The distinction has real consequences. A manual recount of all ballots identifies not only those ballots which show no vote but also those which contain more than one, the so-called overvotes. Neither category will be counted by the machine. This is not a trivial concern. At oral argument, respondents estimated there are as many as 110,000 overvotes statewide. As a result, the citizen whose ballot was not read by a machine because he failed to vote for a candidate in a way readable by a machine may still have his vote counted in a manual recount; on the other hand, the citizen who marks two candidates in a way discernable by the machine will not have the same opportunity to have his vote count, even if a manual examination of the ballot would reveal the requisite indicia of intent. Furthermore, the citizen who marks two candidates, only one of which is discernable by the machine, will have his vote counted even though it should have been read as an invalid ballot. The State Supreme Court’s inclusion of vote counts based on these variant standards exemplifies concerns with the remedial processes that were under way."

    I bolded the relevant part in that paragraph of this SCOTUS opinion.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  599. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    Child-Luke gullibility is your specialty.


    In addition to numerous statistical impossibilities
     
    Which ones?

    Alzheimer-in-Chief got fewer votes then Obama in crazy-blue San Francisco
     
    You mean the radicals in SF were less excited by an old white guy? Does this surprise you?

    We have a robust 2 party system with plenty of Republicans involved in elections, and with a Republican president and numerous Republicans governors. If votes were actually miscounted or disgraced on a massive scale it would have been very easy to prove and would have been proven.

    Biden won unfairly because most of the media, the entertainment industry, and most of the corporate world worked against him, censoring certain information and convincing the people whom to vote for. He didn’t win because millions of votes were invented. He didn’t have to.

    It’s hilarious that you think the Russian official results were accurate but American ones weren’t. The ultimate gullible Soviet boomer.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    Child-Luke gullibility is your specialty.

    It is true that Luke was just a farmboy to start with, and he may have accepted his Uncle Owen’s false story about his father being a “restless” moisture-farmer too readily.

    And it is also true that he was very trusting of Obi-Wan, who was a stranger to him, but some might call that discernment. And as to the first, isn’t that just filial piety in a Confucian sense? (Respecting one’s uncle.)

  600. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    No, he was just preying on a vulnerable population - at home, he would be put in his place in no time (wouldn't be allowed to operate - or would prey on dysfunctional women). Point was he was arrested and expelled for criminal activity, not politics. Even though pro-Putinists, too, should be expelled. Most PUAs are pro-Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    I know virtually nothing about that business. It is very possible you know far more than me!

    • LOL: LatW
  601. @Dmitry
    @Mikel

    From years with AP about unrelated topics, I had somehow a sensation his natural desire is to be a wealthy playboy who dates beautiful younger women, collects wine and drives Ferraris around the beach.

    So, his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that's domestication.It's not dating his secretaries and buying them Versace dresses using the children's future education bank accounts.

    -

    About the debate on who can call himself a "real American". AP is a real American, if he was born and schooling there. You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America, who has an American citizenship? You can say you are American legally, politically, probably not culturally.

    AnonfromTN is an Ukrainian from the USSR, even if he more years in Tennessee than Ukraine now. I don't think he should say to people "I'm a bluegrass American from Tennessee" even if he lives there to his 100th birthday, it's not a culturally native person.

    I exited Russia over 8 years ago, become more distant from Russia every year, don't think about it for days sometimes. But I can notice my dreams at night, are still back in Russia. Origins follow you like a shadow.

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    So, his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that’s domestication. It’s not dating his secretaries and buying them Versace dresses using the children’s future education bank accounts.

    Come on man, that is so vulgar.

    About the debate on who can call himself a “real American”. AP is a real American, if he was born and schooling there. You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America, who has an American citizenship? You can say you are American legally, politically, probably not culturally.

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.

    Exactly. And that is very obvious. One has to be really shallow and rootless on some level, to make a strange comment that it’s only a matter of years. Or at least not be thinking when expressing such a rootless idea, suggestive of a lost wandering soul.

    [MORE]

    About voices – yes there were plenty of Americans ones. But also, my parents and grandparents spoke only Ukrainian with me, I didn’t speak English until kindergarten. And there was a Ukrainian church, and summer camps, etc. So I have roots in different worlds, but my American ones are real. Childhood smells of maple or pine trees, pledging allegiance to the flag, football with friends, country fairs, bonfire parties, shooting in the woods…

  602. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "When this war is over I will financially benefit"

    I wouldn't bank on all those GMO crops on the black soil of the Ukraine. They'll be Russian exports.

    Still, it's another heavy defeat for Germany, if not for Russia.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/18/german-living-standards-plummeted-after-russia-invaded-ukraine-say-economists


    The energy shock caused by America's destruction of Nordstream (for some reason the Guardian has misspelled this as "Russia’s invasion of Ukraine") has led to the biggest collapse in German living standards since the second world war and a downturn in economic output comparable to the 2008 financial crisis, a stark assessment has found.

    In a joint paper designed to underline the depth of the economic crisis in Europe’s erstwhile powerhouse, two former economic advisers to the German government have said that real wages in the country slumped further in 2022 than in any year since 1950.

    A failure to protect German industry from the energy price spike may turn the 2020s into “a lost decade for Germany” and further fuel the rise of the populist far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), the authors warned in a working paper published by the Forum for a New Economy.
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    “When this war is over I will financially benefit”

    I wouldn’t bank on all those GMO crops on the black soil of the Ukraine. They’ll be Russian exports.

    I don’t have direct investments and I would profit even if Russia took all of Ukraine which is highly unlikely now that Putin is talking about making a buffer zone. I also fail to see how he can take Odesa and Kiev with his mishmash army of untrained conscripts and third world contractors that have Chechen guns in their backs. You need trained and professional soldiers to maintain a hostile city. Putin is doing everything to avoid conscripting middle class Slavs.

    When the war is over the stock market will have huge gains and I will go to Vegas. I’ll sit in a hot tub and read about something else.

    Some Russian with his legs missing will hobble around a cold floor before blowing his brains out.

    That is the reality that you don’t want to face. Any attempt at schadenfreude for Americans is a joke on the people that actually fight the war. It’s even sadder than Anglin and the incel defense force trying to believe this war somehow sticks it to the Jews. I’ve asked him and his fans many times to explain how the Jews will lose when Russians die in trenches and their top response is……..(drumroll)

    U MUST BE A JOO!!!!!!!

    A real brain trust.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    Some Russian with his legs missing will hobble around a cold floor before blowing his brains out.

    It isn't good for you to gloat over human misery, be it Russian or Ukrainian.

    Still, Russia is doing a lot better than Europe. Things are getting better there, not worse. It sounds almost like we used to be. I can remember in the early 70s people complaining about people living in council houses ('projects') with a Jaguar car outside the front door.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/15/rate-of-russian-military-production-worries-european-war-planners


    Machinists and welders in Russian factories producing war equipment are now making more money than many white-collar managers and lawyers, according to a Moscow Times analysis of Russian labour data in November.

    “The Russians have been paying for this for years. They’ve been subsidising the defence industry, and many would have said wasting money for the event that one day they need to be able to scale it up. So it was economically inefficient until 2022, and then suddenly it looks like a very shrewd bit of planning.”

    That differs significantly from western, especially European, arms manufacturers, who generally run lean operations that work across borders and are designed to maximise profit for shareholders.

    “The war has led to an unprecedented redistribution of wealth, with the poorer classes profiting from government spending on the military-industrial complex,” said Denis Volkov, the director of the Levada Center, a polling and sociological research firm in Moscow. “Workers at military factories and families of soldiers fighting in Ukraine suddenly have much more money to spend. Their income has increased dramatically.”
     

  603. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    No, he was just preying on a vulnerable population - at home, he would be put in his place in no time (wouldn't be allowed to operate - or would prey on dysfunctional women). Point was he was arrested and expelled for criminal activity, not politics. Even though pro-Putinists, too, should be expelled. Most PUAs are pro-Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    I saw a clip of Joe Rogan claiming that Andrew Tate is gay. This is none of my business and not important but might be interesting. I don’t have a strong opinion, except that in the Tate video clips I have watched, his “harem” of babes always seemed pretty unattractive and not well aligned with the image he promotes. I’m sure there are some very attractive women in Romania…probably from Moldova. I suppose Rogan could have been jerking Tate’s chain.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC

    I really don't feel like talking about Andrew Tate on this beautiful spring day (don't know much about him). It's just that I really dislike Western PUA's who travel to EE. Many of them tend to be pro-Putin, Russophilic and newly found Orthodoxes. Don't know much about Andrew Tate in particular, he seems even shadier than the usual bunch (and isn't he mixed, too?). I prefer the right wingers from the active clubs who are not sleazy like that.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I saw a clip of Joe Rogan claiming that Andrew Tate is gay. This is none of my business and not important but might be interesting. I don’t have a strong opinion, except that in the Tate video clips I have watched, his “harem” of babes always seemed pretty unattractive and not well aligned with the image he promotes.

    I had to work with gays when I was in the city and I can tell you that he is not gay.

    They don't fake straight by being around multiple women. They hate women and are uncomfortable talking about them in regard to sex or dating.

    What they do is marry a woman they can tolerate and depict themselves as dutiful or hard working. They become "too busy" to spend time with the wife. Long hours at the office or church.

    The red flag is when they are very social/extroverted but marry a plain woman or Asian. Gays even have a joke that the Asian girlfriend is the last step before coming out to the parents.

    Closeted gays also avoid straight men. They are afraid of slipping up which is what eventually happens. The closeted gay doesn't go bowling or to the football game with the guys. They are the uber religious or workaholic that you never see. That is how they avoid being caught.

  604. @QCIC
    @LatW

    I saw a clip of Joe Rogan claiming that Andrew Tate is gay. This is none of my business and not important but might be interesting. I don't have a strong opinion, except that in the Tate video clips I have watched, his "harem" of babes always seemed pretty unattractive and not well aligned with the image he promotes. I'm sure there are some very attractive women in Romania...probably from Moldova. I suppose Rogan could have been jerking Tate's chain.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    [MORE]

    I really don’t feel like talking about Andrew Tate on this beautiful spring day (don’t know much about him). It’s just that I really dislike Western PUA’s who travel to EE. Many of them tend to be pro-Putin, Russophilic and newly found Orthodoxes. Don’t know much about Andrew Tate in particular, he seems even shadier than the usual bunch (and isn’t he mixed, too?). I prefer the right wingers from the active clubs who are not sleazy like that.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @LatW

    I think he is mixed and he is a Muslim.

    Replies: @LatW

  605. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Beckow

    The UK is a pretty heavy loser too, but we had less to lose than Germany, certainly in the way of productive industry.

    " Germany is one the last truly industrialized parts of the West and sacrificing it for the remote dream of Nato having bases in Crimea was very stupid. "

    To be fair to Nuland and Co I think sundering Russia from Europe was the target, and so they were pretty successful. Germany is acceptable collateral damage.

    What I can't understand is why Germany has supinely accepted the fate that was chosen for them in Washington (or Langley). Where are the people demanding results from the NordStream investigations?

    Instead they're sitting in NATO bases thinking about destroying the Kerch bridge!

    "US wrecks our economy, let's help them with their global ambitions!"

    It is very sad to see BASF shutting production facilities down and reopening them in China.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …sundering Russia from Europe was the target, and so they were pretty successful.

    Not in way they imagined. We don’t know for sure what was the overall plan – people will forever lie and deny what they were doing. At least for some the target was to somehow master Russia and its resources. Either by making Russia weak so it can be controlled (and exploited) or more ambitiously to install a Western puppet regime in Moscow and decentralize Russia so that each region cold be dealt with separately by the West. The crazy fringe even dreamt about splitting Russia.

    It depended on Russia sitting inactively like in the 90’s. After Putin consolidated Russia and moved to protect Ossetia from Nato-allied Georgia, and after Crimea, they should have called it off. Russia was clearly willing to still agree to a deal.

    But they wanted it all and now they are getting a bloody nose. It was a mistake to make it all-important, Ukraine is not the place Nato can defeat Russia. But they are not very smart people, so they persisted and now don’t know what to do.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    But they are not very smart people, so they persisted and now don’t know what to do.
     
    I think the immediate imperial plan was to weaken Russia and Europe. The empire was 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain. The Russia part flopped, though.

    Replies: @Beckow

  606. @Dmitry
    @Mikel

    From years with AP about unrelated topics, I had somehow a sensation his natural desire is to be a wealthy playboy who dates beautiful younger women, collects wine and drives Ferraris around the beach.

    So, his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that's domestication.It's not dating his secretaries and buying them Versace dresses using the children's future education bank accounts.

    -

    About the debate on who can call himself a "real American". AP is a real American, if he was born and schooling there. You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America, who has an American citizenship? You can say you are American legally, politically, probably not culturally.

    AnonfromTN is an Ukrainian from the USSR, even if he more years in Tennessee than Ukraine now. I don't think he should say to people "I'm a bluegrass American from Tennessee" even if he lives there to his 100th birthday, it's not a culturally native person.

    I exited Russia over 8 years ago, become more distant from Russia every year, don't think about it for days sometimes. But I can notice my dreams at night, are still back in Russia. Origins follow you like a shadow.

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America

    As much as you are a Hebrew who emigrated to Western Europe (but in reality less, from an ancestry perspective).

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground

    Most definitely.

    In my case, I wasn’t only born in the Basque Country, I spent all of my formative years there and that heritage will remain with me forever. I will always be an American of immigrant origins in a less prosperous part of the world. But I don’t need you to explain to me who I am. After all, everything you know on that subject is what you have read me say about myself lol.

    Besides, it’s true that if you were born a donkey, you will never become a horse but the difference between donkeys and people is that we can adapt, change, assimilate and imagine the future. If you are planning to live in a country with your direct family and in all likelihood their descendants, which country are you most interested in seeing prosper: that one or the one across the ocean that you never plan to go back to?

    Of course, it’s also quite common for people not to care much about their country. Some of them just because they despise their compatriots. You see this a lot in Latin America. I even felt that way too when terrorism was at its height in my home country. Some others, typically in the USA and many other Western countries, just take their nationality as an accident, something that they didn’t choose or do anything to deserve, so not much of any value. They don’t care much about the society they live in. And some others were born in unassimilated families of immigrant origins so their allegiance is more to the old country than to the new one. Quite typical among Hispanics in the USA and, apparently, among some Ukrainians as well. Basques used to be like that when they lived clustered in remote areas of the Western USA but, in my experience, they all tend to be well assimilated now. They’re a pretty solid Republican constituency.

    his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that’s domestication.

    Unfortunately, I doubt that very much. He once confessed that having these online arguments is his hobby. And, indeed, that’s what it looks like. It’s not about typing speed at all. It’s about how many days per week, how many times per day, what times of the day and above all, what quality of arguments. From there on, it’s just pure arithmetic: he can’t be paying a lot of attention to his family.

    In fact, I am guilty of that myself sometimes, even though I do take my breaks around the weekend and I almost only post when I am in front of the computer doing boring stuff as a way of procrastinating (same as you, I think).

    But I’ve come to the conclusion that Unz would do me a favor if he closed down this blog. The days of the effort posts by quality commenters are long gone and debates here are increasingly predictable and repetitive. Moreover, one of the issues of posting here too much is that over the years we all post a tremendous amount of personal stuff, leaving lots of breadcrumbs to be easily recognized in real life. As you once cleverly said, this blog is like the bar at the square of a Greek Island village, where everybody gathers to chat at the end of the day. I don’t know about now but a couple of years ago I saw thousands of views on imgur if I posted a picture here so there may be a lot of silent viewers that the war porn of Jojo and the pervy porn of XYZ haven’t yet scared away.

    Of course, I will never doxx anybody, not even my pal andy, but I have been able to figure out with certainty who a few of the commenters here are in real life. Sometimes you just add two plus two and do a Google search. Some other times, you happen to know somebody who knows somebody and voila, there it is. And that’s without you having any prior knowledge of that person at all. Imagine if somebody who knows you personally lands on this blog, they’re going to recognize you immediately. So again, my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn’t be proud of if their loved ones saw it published online is: think twice or thrice before hitting the publish button. It may come to haunt you. And, as an added bonus, the discussions would be more civil and productive.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel


    So again, my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn’t be proud of if their loved ones saw it published online is: think twice or thrice before hitting the publish button.
     
    All the real life people that I know are so milk toast that:

    1. they would be horrified at the disruption of their weltanschauung within 15 seconds of accidentally clicking on unz and reading

    OR

    2. if not 1 they would never admit it in a million years. They could barely muster the gusto to admit voting for Donald the Fat. They are more traumatized than outraged that men can go into the public bathroom with their teenage girl relatives.
    , @Dmitry
    @Mikel


    he can’t be paying a lot of attention to his family.
     
    I don't think you can guess this. He could be writing the comments while he is sitting along the family dining table in his house, joking with his wife, as a domesticated person.

    And for his children, maybe they have an independent social life. When I was growing in Russia, I think we were a lot more independent than modern children. I'm not so sure that's bad. At least, from age maybe 11-18, we liked to escape our parents as much as possible. The more typicaly American model where the parents are focusing a lot on their children and have a lot of pressure on them, could be stressful for the children.


    my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn’t be proud of if their loved ones saw i
     
    I don't think a non-member would understand anything on here, until they posted on the thread sometime, as we are participating in a dialectical chain thread, not writing the independent comments that have the emphasis that would be created only by our own opinions.

    We are writing a group text where everyone's attention has to scroll the same chains of comments. When you discuss after a while, the purpose of the comments is to modulate the direction of the chain of texts, correct imbalances in the earlier comments in the chain, which have often been extreme in this site, meaning your own comments will also be independently unbalanced, but probably balanced in the long-term chain of texts context.

    If you are entering the threads here, you are inputting different corrections to the group text, not writing our own text.

    -

    So, because of the sensitive personalities of the authors, I was probably a little incorrectly judging the level of rudeness for over-correcting some of the inputters like Bashibuzuk/Anon4, Yahya.

    But AP is more resilient and not sensitive about it. So, an exaggerated correction of his text, can create a better the result in the overall chain, even if it means your own comments would be unbalanced if you read them only independently.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it's because we all are riding on the boat together. It's not what you would do in your solo boat. On the other side, I guess we all have some responsibility when the discussion is becoming too crazy and our boat overturns.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN, @Mikel

  607. @John Johnson
    @AP

    How much time do you think those posts took?

    They probably a project a longer time not realizing that we don't have the ESL translation.

    I can type posts faster than I can talk to my in-laws on the phone.

    I thought I typed around 80wpm but my wife thinks it is closer to 110. She is probably right but I don't care enough to test.

    But I will probably post less now that the weather is better.

    Replies: @Mikel

    They probably a project a longer time not realizing that we don’t have the ESL translation.

    Not having the ESL excuse makes posting crap even worse lol.

    Judge Engoron didn’t convict Trump for his crimes in Las Vegas due to lack of jurisdiction? AnfromTN, who was talking about his daughter’s graduation ceremony the other day, an incel? Perhaps you should type slower and let you fingers follow your brain rather than the other way around.

  608. @Dmitry
    @Mikel

    From years with AP about unrelated topics, I had somehow a sensation his natural desire is to be a wealthy playboy who dates beautiful younger women, collects wine and drives Ferraris around the beach.

    So, his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that's domestication.It's not dating his secretaries and buying them Versace dresses using the children's future education bank accounts.

    -

    About the debate on who can call himself a "real American". AP is a real American, if he was born and schooling there. You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America, who has an American citizenship? You can say you are American legally, politically, probably not culturally.

    AnonfromTN is an Ukrainian from the USSR, even if he more years in Tennessee than Ukraine now. I don't think he should say to people "I'm a bluegrass American from Tennessee" even if he lives there to his 100th birthday, it's not a culturally native person.

    I exited Russia over 8 years ago, become more distant from Russia every year, don't think about it for days sometimes. But I can notice my dreams at night, are still back in Russia. Origins follow you like a shadow.

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    About the debate on who can call himself a “real American”. AP is a real American

    “American” was originally an ethnic term.

    But AP has denounced the foundations of that ethnic group. He has deconstructed their most important tale, their mythohistorical culture in a way that is indistinguishable from any leftist PoC.

    It is like if he had gone to Ukraine, spat on them, and then called them all Russians, but much, much worse than that because he has attributed to them some special hereditary sin, which far from helping the putative victims, is a key in any malevalent foreigner’s hands.

    Not to mention, if George Washington were around today, AP would call him a “Putin-boot-licker.”

    But he may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian, or, at least, if they were trying to embroil us in some foreign war.

    • Agree: S1
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @songbird

    It sounded like his ancestors assimilated in the way which was expected in the Ellis Island times. You were to become American externally. But, the society encouraged separate ethnic prides with events "Columbus Day", "Saint Patrick's Day", continuing traditional religions from the origin country not exclusive of minority sects, even some of the ethnic lobbying in politics was allowed, although not when it can directly contradict the government's direction like the German American Bund in 1941.


    may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian,
     
    In countries which still have a strong culture, I think immigrants' children and ancestors can even become "real Japanese".

    There's a story about a woman with British origin who talk how they believe they have a "Japanese soul", after the highschool experience there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9AwPUy7a_8

    She doesn't have Japanese citizenship, but internally she believes she is a Japanese because of the early experiences were developed there, her native language and she lives there for all her life.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    , @AP
    @songbird


    But AP has denounced the foundations of that ethnic group. He has deconstructed their most important tale, their mythohistorical culture in a way that is indistinguishable from any leftist PoC.
     
    How so?

    But he may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian, or, at least, if they were trying to embroil us in some foreign war.
     
    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    Replies: @songbird

  609. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    Would you likewise say that Bush won unfairly in 2000 because the media was biased in favor of him and against Gore?
     
    Was it? It was much more even then, but still more leftist than rightist. Bush had Fox and Rush Limbaugh, but the three networks leaned left.

    The fairest thing to do would have been to order a new, constitutional manual recount of all of Florida’s six million ballots, under a uniform standard, and allow it to continue until January 6, 2001, when Congress would have counted the electoral votes for the 2000 election, in the hope that it would have successfully been completed by then, as it very likely would have been
     
    Sounds right.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Was it? It was much more even then, but still more leftist than rightist. Bush had Fox and Rush Limbaugh, but the three networks leaned left.

    Yes, but did even the left-wing networks particularly like Gore? In my post #587 here, I specifically linked to several articles which complained about the media being biased against Gore, some from during the 2000 campaign and some from after it but still from the 2000s. I will respond all of the links to them here right now:

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/10/gore200710

    https://prospect.org/features/gored-media-bull/

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/101500a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/110700a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/020100a.html

    One of these articles (the second-to-last one above) even mentions a private citizen suing the New York Times for constantly publishing false information about Al Gore.

    Sounds right.

    Yeah. Only manually recounting the undervotes and overvotes would have been unfair since there could have been ballots among those that were accepted as valid votes by Florida’s voting machines which should not have been accepted and were only accepted by mistake. Specifically those ballots where a voter marked two candidates on his ballot but the machine only read one of these marks and thus treated this ballot as a valid vote instead of as an invalid ballot like it was supposed to have done.

    From Bush v. Gore:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZPC.html

    “In addition, the recounts in these three counties were not limited to so-called undervotes but extended to all of the ballots. The distinction has real consequences. A manual recount of all ballots identifies not only those ballots which show no vote but also those which contain more than one, the so-called overvotes. Neither category will be counted by the machine. This is not a trivial concern. At oral argument, respondents estimated there are as many as 110,000 overvotes statewide. As a result, the citizen whose ballot was not read by a machine because he failed to vote for a candidate in a way readable by a machine may still have his vote counted in a manual recount; on the other hand, the citizen who marks two candidates in a way discernable by the machine will not have the same opportunity to have his vote count, even if a manual examination of the ballot would reveal the requisite indicia of intent. Furthermore, the citizen who marks two candidates, only one of which is discernable by the machine, will have his vote counted even though it should have been read as an invalid ballot. The State Supreme Court’s inclusion of vote counts based on these variant standards exemplifies concerns with the remedial processes that were under way.”

    I bolded the relevant part in that paragraph of this SCOTUS opinion.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    "I will *repost* all of the links to them here right now:"

    (Corrected typo.)

  610. @A123
    @songbird


    George Lucas has betrayed A123 by endorsing Bob Iger.

    Very curious as he once compared Disney to white slavers.
     
    All the fans, not just me. It is indeed bizarre. Presumably, there is something more going out that has not leaked into the public yet.

    -- Perhaps there were some contacts between Lucas and Trian that did not go well?
    -- Or, Disney is forking over cash to buy George's public support?

    We should know more in a week or two.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    Or, Disney is forking over cash to buy George’s public support?

    After what they did to both Luke and Indy, it is hard for me to believe that they aren’t blackmailing him.

    It doesn’t seem like a natural reaction, unless it is some form of conflict avoidance.

    • Thanks: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird

    Disney dropped a trailer for The Acolyte. It has been ratioed everywhere.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j723FrcLNac

    Everyone knows this is going to crater on launch.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  611. @Mikel
    @Dmitry


    You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America
     
    As much as you are a Hebrew who emigrated to Western Europe (but in reality less, from an ancestry perspective).

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground
     
    Most definitely.

    In my case, I wasn't only born in the Basque Country, I spent all of my formative years there and that heritage will remain with me forever. I will always be an American of immigrant origins in a less prosperous part of the world. But I don't need you to explain to me who I am. After all, everything you know on that subject is what you have read me say about myself lol.

    Besides, it's true that if you were born a donkey, you will never become a horse but the difference between donkeys and people is that we can adapt, change, assimilate and imagine the future. If you are planning to live in a country with your direct family and in all likelihood their descendants, which country are you most interested in seeing prosper: that one or the one across the ocean that you never plan to go back to?

    Of course, it's also quite common for people not to care much about their country. Some of them just because they despise their compatriots. You see this a lot in Latin America. I even felt that way too when terrorism was at its height in my home country. Some others, typically in the USA and many other Western countries, just take their nationality as an accident, something that they didn't choose or do anything to deserve, so not much of any value. They don't care much about the society they live in. And some others were born in unassimilated families of immigrant origins so their allegiance is more to the old country than to the new one. Quite typical among Hispanics in the USA and, apparently, among some Ukrainians as well. Basques used to be like that when they lived clustered in remote areas of the Western USA but, in my experience, they all tend to be well assimilated now. They're a pretty solid Republican constituency.

    his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that’s domestication.
     
    Unfortunately, I doubt that very much. He once confessed that having these online arguments is his hobby. And, indeed, that's what it looks like. It's not about typing speed at all. It's about how many days per week, how many times per day, what times of the day and above all, what quality of arguments. From there on, it's just pure arithmetic: he can't be paying a lot of attention to his family.

    In fact, I am guilty of that myself sometimes, even though I do take my breaks around the weekend and I almost only post when I am in front of the computer doing boring stuff as a way of procrastinating (same as you, I think).

    But I've come to the conclusion that Unz would do me a favor if he closed down this blog. The days of the effort posts by quality commenters are long gone and debates here are increasingly predictable and repetitive. Moreover, one of the issues of posting here too much is that over the years we all post a tremendous amount of personal stuff, leaving lots of breadcrumbs to be easily recognized in real life. As you once cleverly said, this blog is like the bar at the square of a Greek Island village, where everybody gathers to chat at the end of the day. I don't know about now but a couple of years ago I saw thousands of views on imgur if I posted a picture here so there may be a lot of silent viewers that the war porn of Jojo and the pervy porn of XYZ haven't yet scared away.

    Of course, I will never doxx anybody, not even my pal andy, but I have been able to figure out with certainty who a few of the commenters here are in real life. Sometimes you just add two plus two and do a Google search. Some other times, you happen to know somebody who knows somebody and voila, there it is. And that's without you having any prior knowledge of that person at all. Imagine if somebody who knows you personally lands on this blog, they're going to recognize you immediately. So again, my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn't be proud of if their loved ones saw it published online is: think twice or thrice before hitting the publish button. It may come to haunt you. And, as an added bonus, the discussions would be more civil and productive.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    So again, my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn’t be proud of if their loved ones saw it published online is: think twice or thrice before hitting the publish button.

    All the real life people that I know are so milk toast that:

    1. they would be horrified at the disruption of their weltanschauung within 15 seconds of accidentally clicking on unz and reading

    OR

    2. if not 1 they would never admit it in a million years. They could barely muster the gusto to admit voting for Donald the Fat. They are more traumatized than outraged that men can go into the public bathroom with their teenage girl relatives.

    • LOL: Mikel
  612. A123 says: • Website

    MAGA Trump winning in Ohio: (1)

    Trump-Endorsed Candidate Bernie Moreno
    Wins Ohio Republican Senate Primary
    ___

    Trump-backed Republican businessman Bernie Moreno has won Ohio’s Republican nomination for U.S. Senate and will advance to the general election against Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH).

    The Associated Press called the Republican Senate primary at 8:35 p.m. ET, with roughly 25 percent of the vote reported.

    Moreno bested State Sen. Matt Dolan (R-OH) and Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose (R) in Tuesday’s contest, marking another victory for the MAGA wing of the Republican Party over the GOP establishment.

    Successful endorsements bring “soft power”. And, this nomination is a step towards a more MAGA Senate for Trump’s 2nd term.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/03/19/trump-endorsed-candidate-bernie-moreno-wins-ohio-republican-senate-primary/

  613. @Beckow
    @YetAnotherAnon


    ...sundering Russia from Europe was the target, and so they were pretty successful.
     
    Not in way they imagined. We don't know for sure what was the overall plan - people will forever lie and deny what they were doing. At least for some the target was to somehow master Russia and its resources. Either by making Russia weak so it can be controlled (and exploited) or more ambitiously to install a Western puppet regime in Moscow and decentralize Russia so that each region cold be dealt with separately by the West. The crazy fringe even dreamt about splitting Russia.

    It depended on Russia sitting inactively like in the 90's. After Putin consolidated Russia and moved to protect Ossetia from Nato-allied Georgia, and after Crimea, they should have called it off. Russia was clearly willing to still agree to a deal.

    But they wanted it all and now they are getting a bloody nose. It was a mistake to make it all-important, Ukraine is not the place Nato can defeat Russia. But they are not very smart people, so they persisted and now don't know what to do.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    But they are not very smart people, so they persisted and now don’t know what to do.

    I think the immediate imperial plan was to weaken Russia and Europe. The empire was 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain. The Russia part flopped, though.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...The empire was 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain. The Russia part flopped, though.
     
    Hey, half a cake is still something. Europe can be cannibalized for years. And it was surprisingly easy.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  614. Have heard that in the ’70s it was a fad to paint the insides of schools built then certain colors on the theory that it could promote certain moods in the minds of students.

    Am not sure when they built Brockton High, but I am not sure the old colors would hide the blood stains that supposedly are left on the walls for weeks, after student brawls and stabbings.

    Perhaps, they could paint them the colors of the national guard so troops could blend into the walls and be unobtrusive.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/03/how-a-school-that-was-once-called-exemplary-crumbled-into-one-of-the-most-troubled-in-america/

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Institutional green.

    https://josephineensign.com/2015/05/25/the-color-of-hospitals/

    My middle school walls were this color. Now I believe they use light beige or white most places. You could do your house in the color of freshly spilled blood. Or maybe the living room in freshly spilled and the master bedroom in dried.

    Huberman needs to get on this.

  615. @Mikel
    @Dmitry


    You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America
     
    As much as you are a Hebrew who emigrated to Western Europe (but in reality less, from an ancestry perspective).

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground
     
    Most definitely.

    In my case, I wasn't only born in the Basque Country, I spent all of my formative years there and that heritage will remain with me forever. I will always be an American of immigrant origins in a less prosperous part of the world. But I don't need you to explain to me who I am. After all, everything you know on that subject is what you have read me say about myself lol.

    Besides, it's true that if you were born a donkey, you will never become a horse but the difference between donkeys and people is that we can adapt, change, assimilate and imagine the future. If you are planning to live in a country with your direct family and in all likelihood their descendants, which country are you most interested in seeing prosper: that one or the one across the ocean that you never plan to go back to?

    Of course, it's also quite common for people not to care much about their country. Some of them just because they despise their compatriots. You see this a lot in Latin America. I even felt that way too when terrorism was at its height in my home country. Some others, typically in the USA and many other Western countries, just take their nationality as an accident, something that they didn't choose or do anything to deserve, so not much of any value. They don't care much about the society they live in. And some others were born in unassimilated families of immigrant origins so their allegiance is more to the old country than to the new one. Quite typical among Hispanics in the USA and, apparently, among some Ukrainians as well. Basques used to be like that when they lived clustered in remote areas of the Western USA but, in my experience, they all tend to be well assimilated now. They're a pretty solid Republican constituency.

    his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that’s domestication.
     
    Unfortunately, I doubt that very much. He once confessed that having these online arguments is his hobby. And, indeed, that's what it looks like. It's not about typing speed at all. It's about how many days per week, how many times per day, what times of the day and above all, what quality of arguments. From there on, it's just pure arithmetic: he can't be paying a lot of attention to his family.

    In fact, I am guilty of that myself sometimes, even though I do take my breaks around the weekend and I almost only post when I am in front of the computer doing boring stuff as a way of procrastinating (same as you, I think).

    But I've come to the conclusion that Unz would do me a favor if he closed down this blog. The days of the effort posts by quality commenters are long gone and debates here are increasingly predictable and repetitive. Moreover, one of the issues of posting here too much is that over the years we all post a tremendous amount of personal stuff, leaving lots of breadcrumbs to be easily recognized in real life. As you once cleverly said, this blog is like the bar at the square of a Greek Island village, where everybody gathers to chat at the end of the day. I don't know about now but a couple of years ago I saw thousands of views on imgur if I posted a picture here so there may be a lot of silent viewers that the war porn of Jojo and the pervy porn of XYZ haven't yet scared away.

    Of course, I will never doxx anybody, not even my pal andy, but I have been able to figure out with certainty who a few of the commenters here are in real life. Sometimes you just add two plus two and do a Google search. Some other times, you happen to know somebody who knows somebody and voila, there it is. And that's without you having any prior knowledge of that person at all. Imagine if somebody who knows you personally lands on this blog, they're going to recognize you immediately. So again, my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn't be proud of if their loved ones saw it published online is: think twice or thrice before hitting the publish button. It may come to haunt you. And, as an added bonus, the discussions would be more civil and productive.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    he can’t be paying a lot of attention to his family.

    I don’t think you can guess this. He could be writing the comments while he is sitting along the family dining table in his house, joking with his wife, as a domesticated person.

    And for his children, maybe they have an independent social life. When I was growing in Russia, I think we were a lot more independent than modern children. I’m not so sure that’s bad. At least, from age maybe 11-18, we liked to escape our parents as much as possible. The more typicaly American model where the parents are focusing a lot on their children and have a lot of pressure on them, could be stressful for the children.

    my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn’t be proud of if their loved ones saw i

    I don’t think a non-member would understand anything on here, until they posted on the thread sometime, as we are participating in a dialectical chain thread, not writing the independent comments that have the emphasis that would be created only by our own opinions.

    We are writing a group text where everyone’s attention has to scroll the same chains of comments. When you discuss after a while, the purpose of the comments is to modulate the direction of the chain of texts, correct imbalances in the earlier comments in the chain, which have often been extreme in this site, meaning your own comments will also be independently unbalanced, but probably balanced in the long-term chain of texts context.

    If you are entering the threads here, you are inputting different corrections to the group text, not writing our own text.

    So, because of the sensitive personalities of the authors, I was probably a little incorrectly judging the level of rudeness for over-correcting some of the inputters like Bashibuzuk/Anon4, Yahya.

    But AP is more resilient and not sensitive about it. So, an exaggerated correction of his text, can create a better the result in the overall chain, even if it means your own comments would be unbalanced if you read them only independently.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it’s because we all are riding on the boat together. It’s not what you would do in your solo boat. On the other side, I guess we all have some responsibility when the discussion is becoming too crazy and our boat overturns.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Dmitry


    after a while, the purpose of the comments is to modulate the direction of the chain of texts, correct imbalances in the earlier comments in the chain, which have often been extreme in this site, meaning your own comments will also be independently unbalanced, but probably balanced in the long-term chain of texts context.
     
    I concur to a point. Though, there are two different drivers.

    -1- Some of it is simple parity. The anti-intellectual dribbling of Iffen introduced the terms "low-IQ" and "yahoo" to the discussion. Accurately tagging him as the board's "low-IQ yahoo troll" was 100% fair and accurate, not exaggeration. Nothing has improved discourse here more than his low-IQ yahoo absence.

    -2- However, other comments are exercises in necessity. Totally unhinged #NeverTrump zealotry has to be pushed back with determined resistance. Undermining MAGA by demanding a demonstrably inferior candidate like Haley makes no sense. If this necessary response requires a certain amount of extreme countermeasures... So be it.

    Similarly, Ukie/Pali declarations anchored in casual disregard for human life are excruciatingly problematic violations of Judeo-Christian values. What are Russian ethnics and indigenous Palestinian Jews supposed to do? Letting this type of fascism slide is intolerable. Is "Führer Zelensky" strictly fair? Possibly not. However, the inherently anti-Semitic nature Azov/Zelensky neo-Nazi activity must be packaged a concise way for clarity.

    PEACE 😇

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Dmitry


    But AP is more resilient and not sensitive about it.
     
    There is Russian expression you should be familiar with: “ему хоть ссы в глаза - все божья роса” (translation: you can pee into his eyes, he’d say it’s Devine dew).
    , @Mikel
    @Dmitry


    I don’t think you can guess this.
     
    That's all we can do but yes, we can make an educated guess.

    Of course, it's true that in some cases your espouse and children may actually be happy that you're leaving them alone all day. But the problem most of us family men have is the opposite. And even when our espouses would like some private space, they'd rather see you do more productive things than having petty personal arguments with strangers on the internet day in, day out.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it’s because we all are riding on the boat together.
     

    OK. But what if it is not your hobby to keep balancing the boat? What if some boat passengers keep compulsively rocking the boat for no good purpose and you see that they actually enjoy doing that? We end up not having a central square bar to chat anymore. Some people, as we see, stop coming to the bar and it just ends up being the gathering point for the most bored villagers who have nothing better to do on the island.

    Of course, you can't have a good gathering point for the whole village if you try to make it a place of pure intellectual discussions, there has to be some spice and personal barbs from time to time. I'm sure Greek villagers have plenty of that too. But we've been doing a very bad job at keeping that balance lately. I guess having a war that has split the village in irreconcilable camps has added to the imbalance between those who enjoy having personal quarrels for the sake of it and those who don't.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

  616. @songbird
    @Dmitry


    About the debate on who can call himself a “real American”. AP is a real American
     
    "American" was originally an ethnic term.

    But AP has denounced the foundations of that ethnic group. He has deconstructed their most important tale, their mythohistorical culture in a way that is indistinguishable from any leftist PoC.

    It is like if he had gone to Ukraine, spat on them, and then called them all Russians, but much, much worse than that because he has attributed to them some special hereditary sin, which far from helping the putative victims, is a key in any malevalent foreigner's hands.

    Not to mention, if George Washington were around today, AP would call him a "Putin-boot-licker."

    But he may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian, or, at least, if they were trying to embroil us in some foreign war.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AP

    It sounded like his ancestors assimilated in the way which was expected in the Ellis Island times. You were to become American externally. But, the society encouraged separate ethnic prides with events “Columbus Day”, “Saint Patrick’s Day”, continuing traditional religions from the origin country not exclusive of minority sects, even some of the ethnic lobbying in politics was allowed, although not when it can directly contradict the government’s direction like the German American Bund in 1941.

    may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian,

    In countries which still have a strong culture, I think immigrants’ children and ancestors can even become “real Japanese”.

    There’s a story about a woman with British origin who talk how they believe they have a “Japanese soul”, after the highschool experience there.

    She doesn’t have Japanese citizenship, but internally she believes she is a Japanese because of the early experiences were developed there, her native language and she lives there for all her life.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Dmitry

    I think it is true that Japan has a strong cultural influence on non-Japanese or half-Japanese people born there. Though, naturally this has many prerequisites and limitations, and requires certain conditions not easily reproducible elsewhere. Some of these conditions may be somewhat time-dependent or expiring, as local factors or advantages change.

    I wish she wasn't wearing such baggy clothes so I could better judge the impact of a high carb diet, but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side of many Japanese.

    What I think is remarkable about the Japanese is their psychological perception of how different gaijin are and their willingness to create niches in the corporate world to try to cater to their sensitivities, in a costly manner.

    Like, normally three Japanese might share a desk, even when one is relatively high-ranking. But they may give a foreigner his own desk. Assign him to a less crowded or chaotic floor. Stop the female employees from serving coffee.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @AP
    @Dmitry


    It sounded like his ancestors assimilated in the way which was expected in the Ellis Island times. You were to become American externally. But, the society encouraged separate ethnic prides with events “Columbus Day”, “Saint Patrick’s Day”, continuing traditional religions from the origin country not exclusive of minority sects, even some of the ethnic lobbying in politics was allowed, although not when it can directly contradict the government’s direction like the German American Bund in 1941.
     
    Your description of Ellis Island immigrants is accurate, and is also true of Ellis Island early wave of Ukrainian immigrants, but the Ellis Island people mostly came over for economic reasons and quickly assimilated linguistically - usually after the first generation (and sometimes even the first generation could not speak their own parents' language). Such was the case of the Italians, Irish, Poles, etc. They are proud of their heritage but are monolingual English speakers and other than family recipes and the words for "grandma" don't have much in common with their kin in the "old country."

    Ukrainians of the post-war period came over involuntarily, as refugees. They better retained their culture and in this way are more like Latvians of the post-war emigration, White Russians after the Revolution (my wife once met a 4th or 5th generation one who still spoke excellent Russian despite never having been to Russia - the family left in 1918), Armenians, and Jews.

    But you are correct that we also take for granted many American norms. You once wrote an excellent description of American Jews in Israel, being very American despite speaking Hebrew.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  617. AP says:
    @songbird
    @Dmitry


    About the debate on who can call himself a “real American”. AP is a real American
     
    "American" was originally an ethnic term.

    But AP has denounced the foundations of that ethnic group. He has deconstructed their most important tale, their mythohistorical culture in a way that is indistinguishable from any leftist PoC.

    It is like if he had gone to Ukraine, spat on them, and then called them all Russians, but much, much worse than that because he has attributed to them some special hereditary sin, which far from helping the putative victims, is a key in any malevalent foreigner's hands.

    Not to mention, if George Washington were around today, AP would call him a "Putin-boot-licker."

    But he may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian, or, at least, if they were trying to embroil us in some foreign war.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @AP

    But AP has denounced the foundations of that ethnic group. He has deconstructed their most important tale, their mythohistorical culture in a way that is indistinguishable from any leftist PoC.

    How so?

    But he may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian, or, at least, if they were trying to embroil us in some foreign war.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    How so?
     
    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride. But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.

    That the reason that America is more European is tantamount to them having killed all the Mexicans and Peruvians up here, and ignoring the influence of climate and geography, crops, and population density, which explains those differences entirely.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?
     
    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.

    Since the Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead. As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Mr. Hack

  618. It is often said that the orca matriarch is important.

    More evidence of this as they cooperate with their sons to practice infanticide in other pods.

    https://www.livescience.com/animals/orcas/it-shows-the-power-of-the-matriarch-heartbreaking-footage-shows-orca-mom-and-son-team-up-to-drown-another-pods-calf

    Pretty wild. Why doesn’t the pod the calf belongs to intervene or retaliate?

    If two bands of humans met and one mother and son went up to the other and snatched a baby and bashed its head against a tree-trunk, what would happen? Would chimps or wolves tolerate such a thing?

  619. A123 says: • Website
    @Dmitry
    @Mikel


    he can’t be paying a lot of attention to his family.
     
    I don't think you can guess this. He could be writing the comments while he is sitting along the family dining table in his house, joking with his wife, as a domesticated person.

    And for his children, maybe they have an independent social life. When I was growing in Russia, I think we were a lot more independent than modern children. I'm not so sure that's bad. At least, from age maybe 11-18, we liked to escape our parents as much as possible. The more typicaly American model where the parents are focusing a lot on their children and have a lot of pressure on them, could be stressful for the children.


    my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn’t be proud of if their loved ones saw i
     
    I don't think a non-member would understand anything on here, until they posted on the thread sometime, as we are participating in a dialectical chain thread, not writing the independent comments that have the emphasis that would be created only by our own opinions.

    We are writing a group text where everyone's attention has to scroll the same chains of comments. When you discuss after a while, the purpose of the comments is to modulate the direction of the chain of texts, correct imbalances in the earlier comments in the chain, which have often been extreme in this site, meaning your own comments will also be independently unbalanced, but probably balanced in the long-term chain of texts context.

    If you are entering the threads here, you are inputting different corrections to the group text, not writing our own text.

    -

    So, because of the sensitive personalities of the authors, I was probably a little incorrectly judging the level of rudeness for over-correcting some of the inputters like Bashibuzuk/Anon4, Yahya.

    But AP is more resilient and not sensitive about it. So, an exaggerated correction of his text, can create a better the result in the overall chain, even if it means your own comments would be unbalanced if you read them only independently.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it's because we all are riding on the boat together. It's not what you would do in your solo boat. On the other side, I guess we all have some responsibility when the discussion is becoming too crazy and our boat overturns.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN, @Mikel

    after a while, the purpose of the comments is to modulate the direction of the chain of texts, correct imbalances in the earlier comments in the chain, which have often been extreme in this site, meaning your own comments will also be independently unbalanced, but probably balanced in the long-term chain of texts context.

    I concur to a point. Though, there are two different drivers.

    -1- Some of it is simple parity. The anti-intellectual dribbling of Iffen introduced the terms “low-IQ” and “yahoo” to the discussion. Accurately tagging him as the board’s “low-IQ yahoo troll” was 100% fair and accurate, not exaggeration. Nothing has improved discourse here more than his low-IQ yahoo absence.

    -2- However, other comments are exercises in necessity. Totally unhinged #NeverTrump zealotry has to be pushed back with determined resistance. Undermining MAGA by demanding a demonstrably inferior candidate like Haley makes no sense. If this necessary response requires a certain amount of extreme countermeasures… So be it.

    Similarly, Ukie/Pali declarations anchored in casual disregard for human life are excruciatingly problematic violations of Judeo-Christian values. What are Russian ethnics and indigenous Palestinian Jews supposed to do? Letting this type of fascism slide is intolerable. Is “Führer Zelensky” strictly fair? Possibly not. However, the inherently anti-Semitic nature Azov/Zelensky neo-Nazi activity must be packaged a concise way for clarity.

    PEACE 😇

  620. @Dmitry
    @Mikel


    he can’t be paying a lot of attention to his family.
     
    I don't think you can guess this. He could be writing the comments while he is sitting along the family dining table in his house, joking with his wife, as a domesticated person.

    And for his children, maybe they have an independent social life. When I was growing in Russia, I think we were a lot more independent than modern children. I'm not so sure that's bad. At least, from age maybe 11-18, we liked to escape our parents as much as possible. The more typicaly American model where the parents are focusing a lot on their children and have a lot of pressure on them, could be stressful for the children.


    my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn’t be proud of if their loved ones saw i
     
    I don't think a non-member would understand anything on here, until they posted on the thread sometime, as we are participating in a dialectical chain thread, not writing the independent comments that have the emphasis that would be created only by our own opinions.

    We are writing a group text where everyone's attention has to scroll the same chains of comments. When you discuss after a while, the purpose of the comments is to modulate the direction of the chain of texts, correct imbalances in the earlier comments in the chain, which have often been extreme in this site, meaning your own comments will also be independently unbalanced, but probably balanced in the long-term chain of texts context.

    If you are entering the threads here, you are inputting different corrections to the group text, not writing our own text.

    -

    So, because of the sensitive personalities of the authors, I was probably a little incorrectly judging the level of rudeness for over-correcting some of the inputters like Bashibuzuk/Anon4, Yahya.

    But AP is more resilient and not sensitive about it. So, an exaggerated correction of his text, can create a better the result in the overall chain, even if it means your own comments would be unbalanced if you read them only independently.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it's because we all are riding on the boat together. It's not what you would do in your solo boat. On the other side, I guess we all have some responsibility when the discussion is becoming too crazy and our boat overturns.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN, @Mikel

    But AP is more resilient and not sensitive about it.

    There is Russian expression you should be familiar with: “ему хоть ссы в глаза – все божья роса” (translation: you can pee into his eyes, he’d say it’s Devine dew).

  621. @John Johnson
    @Dmitry

    Trump is making a lot more gaffes compared to the last election.

    Just watch his Nashville speech where he gaffes and rambles:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deNpLg29_0E

    He also seems to take pride in initially knowing nothing about Golan and then signing it over.

    #NewCandidatesPlease

    Replies: @QCIC, @Dmitry

    Trump speaks coherently and adequately. He sometimes uses the incorrect words. It’s a small proportion of the total speech.

    If you look at this video, he speaks for 3:36. There is only one wrong word, the rest of the speech was making sense so you can understand he intended to say “Jerusalem therefore became the capital”.

    He is speaking those speeches without a teleprompter either? There’s plenty young men couldn’t do that.

    @ QCIC https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-244/#comment-6474168

    I think Biden’s mental capability is probably lower than widely believed. They probably have ten expert handlers working full time to make him look as good as possible

    He seems lazy and uninterested, like he has a team to prepare the answers for his questions.

    But, if question is about cognitive aging, it seems he can understand what he says, understands the questions. His memory is not so bad if he can remember the questions his team prepares also in those scripted appearances.

    The voter KNOWS Biden is a zero and therefore the job is being done by someone or some group behind the scenes about which we know NOTHING.

    Isn’t it people like Blinken who are really doing the job?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Dmitry



    I think Biden’s mental capability is probably lower than widely believed. They probably have ten expert handlers working full time to make him look as good as possible
     
    He seems lazy and uninterested, like he has a team to prepare the answers for his questions.

    But, if question is about cognitive aging, it seems he can understand what he says, understands the questions. His memory is not so bad if he can remember the questions his team prepares also in those scripted appearances.
     
    Careful watchers believe he is being medicated for public appearances.

    At set times he is can be prepped for better performance. However, stimulants generate aggression, which is why he often comes across as easily provoked and combative. After one of these scripted/medicated events he vanishes from sight for an unusually long period. If he is observed, he seems unnaturally confused and/or lethargic.

    Isn’t it people like Blinken who are really doing the job?
     
    Staff can only go so far. Ronald Reagan was propped up for his last few months. With 20/20 hindsight this was rather scary, but no big decisions were being made.

    The idea of running a mentally incapable candidate for another term should be unthinkable. Yet, the Nazicrats are apparently going to try it.

    PEACE 😇
  622. A123 says: • Website
    @Dmitry
    @John Johnson

    Trump speaks coherently and adequately. He sometimes uses the incorrect words. It's a small proportion of the total speech.

    If you look at this video, he speaks for 3:36. There is only one wrong word, the rest of the speech was making sense so you can understand he intended to say "Jerusalem therefore became the capital".

    He is speaking those speeches without a teleprompter either? There's plenty young men couldn't do that.

    @ QCIC https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-244/#comment-6474168


    I think Biden’s mental capability is probably lower than widely believed. They probably have ten expert handlers working full time to make him look as good as possible

     

    He seems lazy and uninterested, like he has a team to prepare the answers for his questions.

    But, if question is about cognitive aging, it seems he can understand what he says, understands the questions. His memory is not so bad if he can remember the questions his team prepares also in those scripted appearances.


    The voter KNOWS Biden is a zero and therefore the job is being done by someone or some group behind the scenes about which we know NOTHING.

     

    Isn't it people like Blinken who are really doing the job?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2yZGU1o_tQ

    Replies: @A123

    I think Biden’s mental capability is probably lower than widely believed. They probably have ten expert handlers working full time to make him look as good as possible

    He seems lazy and uninterested, like he has a team to prepare the answers for his questions.

    But, if question is about cognitive aging, it seems he can understand what he says, understands the questions. His memory is not so bad if he can remember the questions his team prepares also in those scripted appearances.

    Careful watchers believe he is being medicated for public appearances.

    At set times he is can be prepped for better performance. However, stimulants generate aggression, which is why he often comes across as easily provoked and combative. After one of these scripted/medicated events he vanishes from sight for an unusually long period. If he is observed, he seems unnaturally confused and/or lethargic.

    Isn’t it people like Blinken who are really doing the job?

    Staff can only go so far. Ronald Reagan was propped up for his last few months. With 20/20 hindsight this was rather scary, but no big decisions were being made.

    The idea of running a mentally incapable candidate for another term should be unthinkable. Yet, the Nazicrats are apparently going to try it.

    PEACE 😇

  623. @songbird
    Have heard that in the '70s it was a fad to paint the insides of schools built then certain colors on the theory that it could promote certain moods in the minds of students.

    Am not sure when they built Brockton High, but I am not sure the old colors would hide the blood stains that supposedly are left on the walls for weeks, after student brawls and stabbings.

    Perhaps, they could paint them the colors of the national guard so troops could blend into the walls and be unobtrusive.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/03/how-a-school-that-was-once-called-exemplary-crumbled-into-one-of-the-most-troubled-in-america/

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Institutional green.

    https://josephineensign.com/2015/05/25/the-color-of-hospitals/

    My middle school walls were this color. Now I believe they use light beige or white most places. You could do your house in the color of freshly spilled blood. Or maybe the living room in freshly spilled and the master bedroom in dried.

    Huberman needs to get on this.

    • Thanks: songbird
  624. @Dmitry
    @songbird

    It sounded like his ancestors assimilated in the way which was expected in the Ellis Island times. You were to become American externally. But, the society encouraged separate ethnic prides with events "Columbus Day", "Saint Patrick's Day", continuing traditional religions from the origin country not exclusive of minority sects, even some of the ethnic lobbying in politics was allowed, although not when it can directly contradict the government's direction like the German American Bund in 1941.


    may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian,
     
    In countries which still have a strong culture, I think immigrants' children and ancestors can even become "real Japanese".

    There's a story about a woman with British origin who talk how they believe they have a "Japanese soul", after the highschool experience there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9AwPUy7a_8

    She doesn't have Japanese citizenship, but internally she believes she is a Japanese because of the early experiences were developed there, her native language and she lives there for all her life.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    I think it is true that Japan has a strong cultural influence on non-Japanese or half-Japanese people born there. Though, naturally this has many prerequisites and limitations, and requires certain conditions not easily reproducible elsewhere. Some of these conditions may be somewhat time-dependent or expiring, as local factors or advantages change.

    I wish she wasn’t wearing such baggy clothes so I could better judge the impact of a high carb diet, but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side of many Japanese.

    What I think is remarkable about the Japanese is their psychological perception of how different gaijin are and their willingness to create niches in the corporate world to try to cater to their sensitivities, in a costly manner.

    Like, normally three Japanese might share a desk, even when one is relatively high-ranking. But they may give a foreigner his own desk. Assign him to a less crowded or chaotic floor. Stop the female employees from serving coffee.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @songbird


    mpact of a high carb diet, but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side

     

    If you imply ratio of bodyfat? I think she looks probably within normal range of East Asian populations.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUV4Zr1VLNc


    but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side of many Japanese.

     

    Those people from Japan usually seem to have body composition within a normal range of countries in East Asia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnqYuu7MvoQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuB2B0BbBOI

    -

    Body composition in developed countries where food is not limited, could be something more culture influenced or at least overall ecological than genetically determined. Maybe, there can be non-culture ecological variables relating to the interaction with bacteria which vary between populations living in different regions, exposures to different pollution types. We would probably guess more important is still culture influences like social pressure, city planning and the food quality for the population.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

  625. @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    I am glad you think that. If a person thinks that Biden’s election in 2020 was honest, anything that person thinks is guaranteed to be wrong.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

    The REAL stolen election was Pennsylvania US Senate 2022. There’s no way in Hell that the Deep State would ever allow a MAGA Muslim to win lol!

  626. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Was it? It was much more even then, but still more leftist than rightist. Bush had Fox and Rush Limbaugh, but the three networks leaned left.

     

    Yes, but did even the left-wing networks particularly like Gore? In my post #587 here, I specifically linked to several articles which complained about the media being biased against Gore, some from during the 2000 campaign and some from after it but still from the 2000s. I will respond all of the links to them here right now:

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/10/gore200710

    https://prospect.org/features/gored-media-bull/

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/101500a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/110700a.html

    https://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/020100a.html

    One of these articles (the second-to-last one above) even mentions a private citizen suing the New York Times for constantly publishing false information about Al Gore.


    Sounds right.

     

    Yeah. Only manually recounting the undervotes and overvotes would have been unfair since there could have been ballots among those that were accepted as valid votes by Florida's voting machines which should not have been accepted and were only accepted by mistake. Specifically those ballots where a voter marked two candidates on his ballot but the machine only read one of these marks and thus treated this ballot as a valid vote instead of as an invalid ballot like it was supposed to have done.

    From Bush v. Gore:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZPC.html

    "In addition, the recounts in these three counties were not limited to so-called undervotes but extended to all of the ballots. The distinction has real consequences. A manual recount of all ballots identifies not only those ballots which show no vote but also those which contain more than one, the so-called overvotes. Neither category will be counted by the machine. This is not a trivial concern. At oral argument, respondents estimated there are as many as 110,000 overvotes statewide. As a result, the citizen whose ballot was not read by a machine because he failed to vote for a candidate in a way readable by a machine may still have his vote counted in a manual recount; on the other hand, the citizen who marks two candidates in a way discernable by the machine will not have the same opportunity to have his vote count, even if a manual examination of the ballot would reveal the requisite indicia of intent. Furthermore, the citizen who marks two candidates, only one of which is discernable by the machine, will have his vote counted even though it should have been read as an invalid ballot. The State Supreme Court’s inclusion of vote counts based on these variant standards exemplifies concerns with the remedial processes that were under way."

    I bolded the relevant part in that paragraph of this SCOTUS opinion.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    “I will *repost* all of the links to them here right now:”

    (Corrected typo.)

  627. @AP
    @songbird


    But AP has denounced the foundations of that ethnic group. He has deconstructed their most important tale, their mythohistorical culture in a way that is indistinguishable from any leftist PoC.
     
    How so?

    But he may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian, or, at least, if they were trying to embroil us in some foreign war.
     
    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    Replies: @songbird

    How so?

    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride. But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.

    That the reason that America is more European is tantamount to them having killed all the Mexicans and Peruvians up here, and ignoring the influence of climate and geography, crops, and population density, which explains those differences entirely.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.

    Since the Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead. As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.

    • Thanks: S1
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @songbird


    Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead. As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.
     

    A bit too late for that. Nato-in-Ukraine morons have created the strongest Euro-Asian alliance that has ever existed. They will lick their wounds for a few years and then start with the only available strategy: try to divide the Euro-Asia again. But what most people are missing is the shift in real power to the anti-Western alliance - both WW1, WW2 were fought within the West, this is different, Europe is only a bystander. And a victim.

    Lady Nuland's neo-con dream will turn out to be the costliest one the Westies ever had.

    , @AP
    @songbird


    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride.
     
    Maybe. The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards and the French (I don't include accidental plagues as killings). The Spaniards were building universities, cathedrals, teaching natives how to write and make beautiful baroque music. There were some efforts to teach the "heathens" but for the most part they were just killed or removed. This isn't really denied, They themselves were not ashamed of having done so, and their descendants and heirs are probably foremost among all peoples in condemning such actions. Indeed doing so is a very authentic expression of their Puritan ways. Condemning one's sins before the community and aggressive moralizing were hallmarks of traditional Puritan culture.

    But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.
     
    Mixture of true and false. They were indeed "special killers" but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of - on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.
     

    Speaking of imperialist, there were the adventures in Cuba and the Philippines ~10 years ago. And the horrible Woodrow Wilson. American troops were in Libya in the early 19th century, in response to the kidnapping of US sailors very far from American waters.

    Hungary occurred during the Suez crisis IIRC and it was over too quickly for anyone to be helped. Plus, they were recent Nazi allies. Czechoslovaks didn't really fight, so not much to do.

    I suspect that if Czechoslovakia had decided to fight and had managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance. USA helped the Afghans, on the Soviet southern border.


    As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.
     
    Russia was lost to the West after the bombing of Serbia. The only question is how strong we will allow China's ally to be. It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces. Betraying Ukraine would not convince Russia to join with the USA, on the contrary it would just be further proof that the USA is a bad ally, unlike China.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Since the Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead.
     

    The cold war was over for a brief period of time, but its now been rolled back into its greatest manifestation thanks to the stooge like antics of its greatest protagonist, Comrade Putler, if you haven't noticed.

    Similarly, the ideology that helped fuel the greatness of the US is only in a slight slumber, ready to reemerge from the shallow hole of isolationism that is being bleated by the smaller portion of the Republican party, the MAGA crowd. Ronald Reagan was the last great Republican president, who proudly paraded throughout the capitols of Europe and announced that the US was the beacon of freedom and democracy that should support the aspirations of other less fortunate countries that also want to be a part of a family of democratic countries around the globe:


    Reagan journeyed to major cities in Europe seeking a united front against totalitarianism and the promotion of democratic ideals. Today, we face the dual challenge of aggressive authoritarian regimes in both Russia and China, and Reagan’s message is just as important today.

    Reagan was deeply committed to human freedom and human dignity as ends in themselves, emphasizing that “freedom is not the sole prerogative of the lucky few.” However, he also recognized that the world is more secure and more peaceful when democracy flourishes, saying that if the free world had supported democracy abroad “some 45 years ago, perhaps our generation wouldn’t have suffered the bloodletting of World War II.” The twin realizations of democracy and human freedom are not just in the interest of the millions of citizens living at the mercy of oppressive regimes thousands of miles beyond our shores, but also have direct implications for the national security and prosperity of the United States. This is clearly demonstrated by soaring gasoline prices in the U.S. and global food shortages that are clearly linked to Vladimir Putin’s unjust invasion of Ukraine.
     

    https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/31/23148705/perspective-reagan-freedom-democracy-american-ideals-speech-at-westminster-cold-war/

    Replies: @songbird

  628. @songbird
    @AP


    How so?
     
    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride. But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.

    That the reason that America is more European is tantamount to them having killed all the Mexicans and Peruvians up here, and ignoring the influence of climate and geography, crops, and population density, which explains those differences entirely.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?
     
    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.

    Since the Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead. As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Mr. Hack

    Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead. As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.

    A bit too late for that. Nato-in-Ukraine morons have created the strongest Euro-Asian alliance that has ever existed. They will lick their wounds for a few years and then start with the only available strategy: try to divide the Euro-Asia again. But what most people are missing is the shift in real power to the anti-Western alliance – both WW1, WW2 were fought within the West, this is different, Europe is only a bystander. And a victim.

    Lady Nuland’s neo-con dream will turn out to be the costliest one the Westies ever had.

    • Agree: songbird
  629. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    But they are not very smart people, so they persisted and now don’t know what to do.
     
    I think the immediate imperial plan was to weaken Russia and Europe. The empire was 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain. The Russia part flopped, though.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …The empire was 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain. The Russia part flopped, though.

    Hey, half a cake is still something. Europe can be cannibalized for years. And it was surprisingly easy.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Hey, half a cake is still something. Europe can be cannibalized for years. And it was surprisingly easy.
     
    Absolutely. That’s why I always say that the imperial sanctions policy was not a total failure, it was half-successful. Only stupid imperial slaves in Europe can think (or pretend to think) that sanctions were against Russia.
  630. If Anatoly Karlin will ever get to personally meet with gay Russian journalist-in-exile Mikhail Zygar, Karlin should buy Zygar (and his husband as well) chocolate-vanilla swirl ice cream with rainbow sprinkles on top of it to celebrate Zygar’s same-sex interracial marriage to some black African guy:

    I suspect that Zygar will strongly appreciate this gesture on Karlin’s part.

  631. @LatW
    @QCIC

    I really don't feel like talking about Andrew Tate on this beautiful spring day (don't know much about him). It's just that I really dislike Western PUA's who travel to EE. Many of them tend to be pro-Putin, Russophilic and newly found Orthodoxes. Don't know much about Andrew Tate in particular, he seems even shadier than the usual bunch (and isn't he mixed, too?). I prefer the right wingers from the active clubs who are not sleazy like that.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    I think he is mixed and he is a Muslim.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Coconuts


    I think he is mixed and he is a Muslim.
     
    He only "became" "Muslim" a year ago (typical). But he was originally "Christian", the Romanian "Orthodox". This is all not serious.

    His father is black (and most likely abandoned the familly), you can see in his case how some of these mixed children with black fathers really struggle. It's kind of sad. Although many people have had a challenging background, yet it didn't cause them to go that far.. it's not our fault what happened to him. Many others have it even harder.

  632. @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Varadkar was in Boston a few days ago, and he called St. Patrick a migrant, which is funny on a variety of levels.

    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn't have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.

    I understand that they have tried to work woke iconography into St. Patrick's Day street decorations in Ireland (brown and black colors) I would like to see the reverse, with St. Patrick smiting gays like Varadkar and generally driving crowds of PoCs out of Ireland, perhaps, brown and black snakes. Or snakes found in certain countries near the Equator.

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @LatW, @Coconuts

    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn’t have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.

    This sort of thing seems to be getting more common, where there is obvious inconsistency between the way national/religious figures are now presented and the sort of beliefs that used to be associated with them.

    I’d guess the discoveries about the Bell Beaker migrations and things like that haven’t managed to enter popular consciousness yet, so the relationship between the populations of the British Isles is possibly not that well known.

    It looks like the common trait behind these things is a tendency to underplay the radical break with the past that has taken place. In the case of the population of the British Isles, since the big migrations in the 3rd millennia the people didn’t move very far until migration to North America and Australia and NZ started, and there no major new arrivals of people from outside of the immediate NW European region until even more recently.

    With St. Patrick, the general beliefs and moral view he represented was still the norm in Ireland and most of Europe for 1000 years+, until the last few decades.

    In these last two cases it seems to be recent enough to still cause cognitive dissonance in people who are quite young, say over 35?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Interestingly, there is a rumor that Varadkar is stepping down now, or will be when they have the elections in ten weeks' time.

    I suspect that it is tied to the defeat of the referendum to remove the references to traditional family in the constitution, and open up the door to reunifications where looser standards are applied.

    Another factor may be that they might be a tiny bit embarrassed that the leaders of England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland (4 out of 4) are all PoC now. It would seem that deniability would require at least one wasn't. Varadkar seems the natural one to step down, since he was the first to achieve the position. (Though not without interruption) And I suspect that they won't field a PoC candidate.


    In these last two cases it seems to be recent enough to still cause cognitive dissonance in people who are quite young, say over 35?
     
    Was amused by the recent story of Islamic scripture being displayed at King's Cross. Would that they had chosen a verse denouncing sodomy.

    Replies: @Matra

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Coconuts

    Has anybody in Ireland made the connection from Icke's reptilians which seem to obviously be Jews and Saint Patrick's snakes? Did David Icke ever do any Saint Patrick's day shows in Dublin?

  633. @songbird
    @AP


    How so?
     
    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride. But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.

    That the reason that America is more European is tantamount to them having killed all the Mexicans and Peruvians up here, and ignoring the influence of climate and geography, crops, and population density, which explains those differences entirely.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?
     
    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.

    Since the Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead. As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Mr. Hack

    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride.

    Maybe. The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards and the French (I don’t include accidental plagues as killings). The Spaniards were building universities, cathedrals, teaching natives how to write and make beautiful baroque music. There were some efforts to teach the “heathens” but for the most part they were just killed or removed. This isn’t really denied, They themselves were not ashamed of having done so, and their descendants and heirs are probably foremost among all peoples in condemning such actions. Indeed doing so is a very authentic expression of their Puritan ways. Condemning one’s sins before the community and aggressive moralizing were hallmarks of traditional Puritan culture.

    But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.

    Mixture of true and false. They were indeed “special killers” but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.

    Speaking of imperialist, there were the adventures in Cuba and the Philippines ~10 years ago. And the horrible Woodrow Wilson. American troops were in Libya in the early 19th century, in response to the kidnapping of US sailors very far from American waters.

    Hungary occurred during the Suez crisis IIRC and it was over too quickly for anyone to be helped. Plus, they were recent Nazi allies. Czechoslovaks didn’t really fight, so not much to do.

    I suspect that if Czechoslovakia had decided to fight and had managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance. USA helped the Afghans, on the Soviet southern border.

    As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.

    Russia was lost to the West after the bombing of Serbia. The only question is how strong we will allow China’s ally to be. It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces. Betraying Ukraine would not convince Russia to join with the USA, on the contrary it would just be further proof that the USA is a bad ally, unlike China.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way
     
    The Navajo Reservation is larger than the state of Massachusetts. Pine Ridge is more than double the size of Rhode Island.

    that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards
     
    did you read this somewhere? Or did it originate from your personal animosity, directed against Old Stock Americans? Perhaps, was it imbibed from your parents?

    I was never taught this in school, and I would be very much surprised if you were.


    They were indeed “special killers” but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary

     

    That is the kind of back-handed complement that would brain a person, or break their neck. You appear to just be saying that they are a good place to invade.

    Speaking of imperialist, there were the adventures in Cuba and the Philippines
     
    the siren call of imperialism does go back a ways.

    I certainly don't endorse the Spanish-American War, or believe it was beneficial. I will say though that it may have appeared to be more desirable at the time , due to the limitations of coal-powered ships, and the fact that was before the non-Euro population of these places exploded. Or before the incompetent MacArthur was easily defeated. Or before we had thermonuclear weapons to defend ourselves.

    But Ukraine isn't needed as a coaling station. And i certainly wouldn't like to see the modern pop of the US exported there.


    it would just be further proof that the USA
     
    The US is a bad ally. It promotes its ideology in these places, hence the George Floyd murals in Afghanistan.

    It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces.
     
    If you want a cold, hard, strategic argument, then the best argument from the standpoint of the interests of Europeans or Europeans within America would probably be multipolarity. And a quick end to the war, to minimize the deaths of Europeans.

    You may wish Ukraine would form its own center, which other Eastern European nations would join, but that seems quite improbable now, as more and more flee and may never come back the longer they stay away. And as the core of any nation, its men die in a prolonged war.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Mixture of true and false. They were indeed “special killers” but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.
     
    Even those people who did not end up in the Anglosphere still benefitted from all of the science, technology, and innovation--not to mention pop culture, et cetera (cinema and whatnot) that the Anglosphere produced. Even the Internet is an Anglosphere invention, for instance.

    Spain and France were better to Native Americans but they didn't produce any huge innovation hubs in the Americans comparable to what the Anglosphere produced. Quebec is objectively nice, though, but Latin America unfortunately has a lot of extremely violent places. Though the Latin Americans in the Anglosphere do better.

    I suspect that if Czechoslovakia had decided to fight and had managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance. USA helped the Afghans, on the Soviet southern border.

     

    Yep.

    Russia was lost to the West after the bombing of Serbia. The only question is how strong we will allow China’s ally to be. It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces. Betraying Ukraine would not convince Russia to join with the USA, on the contrary it would just be further proof that the USA is a bad ally, unlike China.

     

    Well, I think that there was the potential for Russia to have an equidistant relationship with the West and China until 2014 or so had the West actually allowed Russia to reintegrate Ukraine. As in, where Russia would balance the West and China against each other for its own benefit. Though even there, Russia would probably lean towards China because China wouldn't be supporting color revolutions in the ex-USSR space and elsewhere like the West would be.

    I suppose that a cynic could say that allowing Russia to conquer Ukraine could weaken Russia by having Russia deal with persistent protests and terrorism there for decades to come, necessitating the permanent stationing of a Russian military garrison over there, possibly a large one, but I'm unsure just how expensive this would actually be for Russia (Russia could have tried forcing its Ukrainian puppet government to pay for the cost of this deployment and/or sold Ukrainian agricultural land and/or Ukrainian natural resources such as lithium to China, India, et cetera to help pay for the cost of this indefinite Russian troop deployment in Ukraine). I also believe that Russia would have been capable of escalating its brutality to 1950s French Algeria levels (France tortured hundreds of thousands of Algerians during the Algerian War of Independence) if doing this was ever actually perceived as being necessary by Russia to quiet down a conquered Ukraine. In such a scenario, I doubt that even the Russian relatives of the "suspected Ukrainian Banderists" who would have been tortured (and/or gulaged) by Russia would have complained too much, instead often arguing that their relatives simply got what they deserved by resisting Russian puppet rule in Ukraine and not knowing their proper place.
    , @Derer
    @AP


    managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance.
     
    In 1968 Czechoslovaks paid close attention to a clear message from the US president Johnson to Brezhnev "Czechoslovakia is your sphere of influence and we will not interfere". USA closed the border to 70000 political refugees. They mostly went to Canada and Australia, and some to Western Europe. Apparently it was the most skilled and successful immigration.
  634. @Dmitry
    @songbird

    It sounded like his ancestors assimilated in the way which was expected in the Ellis Island times. You were to become American externally. But, the society encouraged separate ethnic prides with events "Columbus Day", "Saint Patrick's Day", continuing traditional religions from the origin country not exclusive of minority sects, even some of the ethnic lobbying in politics was allowed, although not when it can directly contradict the government's direction like the German American Bund in 1941.


    may be a real American in the same way that someone born in Puerto Rico is, or the anchor-baby of a Nigerian,
     
    In countries which still have a strong culture, I think immigrants' children and ancestors can even become "real Japanese".

    There's a story about a woman with British origin who talk how they believe they have a "Japanese soul", after the highschool experience there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9AwPUy7a_8

    She doesn't have Japanese citizenship, but internally she believes she is a Japanese because of the early experiences were developed there, her native language and she lives there for all her life.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    It sounded like his ancestors assimilated in the way which was expected in the Ellis Island times. You were to become American externally. But, the society encouraged separate ethnic prides with events “Columbus Day”, “Saint Patrick’s Day”, continuing traditional religions from the origin country not exclusive of minority sects, even some of the ethnic lobbying in politics was allowed, although not when it can directly contradict the government’s direction like the German American Bund in 1941.

    Your description of Ellis Island immigrants is accurate, and is also true of Ellis Island early wave of Ukrainian immigrants, but the Ellis Island people mostly came over for economic reasons and quickly assimilated linguistically – usually after the first generation (and sometimes even the first generation could not speak their own parents’ language). Such was the case of the Italians, Irish, Poles, etc. They are proud of their heritage but are monolingual English speakers and other than family recipes and the words for “grandma” don’t have much in common with their kin in the “old country.”

    Ukrainians of the post-war period came over involuntarily, as refugees. They better retained their culture and in this way are more like Latvians of the post-war emigration, White Russians after the Revolution (my wife once met a 4th or 5th generation one who still spoke excellent Russian despite never having been to Russia – the family left in 1918), Armenians, and Jews.

    But you are correct that we also take for granted many American norms. You once wrote an excellent description of American Jews in Israel, being very American despite speaking Hebrew.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Ukrainians of the post-war period came over involuntarily, as refugees. They better retained their culture and in this way are more like Latvians of the post-war emigration, White Russians after the Revolution (my wife once met a 4th or 5th generation one who still spoke excellent Russian despite never having been to Russia – the family left in 1918), Armenians, and Jews.

     

    You can also compare all of these groups to the Parsis, whom I think moved to India over 1,000 years ago and retained their traditional Zoroastrian faith, even while their traditional homeland of Iran converted to Islam. IIRC, I previously read somewhere that the Parsis are around 75% Iranian by ancestry.
  635. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn’t have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.
     

    This sort of thing seems to be getting more common, where there is obvious inconsistency between the way national/religious figures are now presented and the sort of beliefs that used to be associated with them.

    I'd guess the discoveries about the Bell Beaker migrations and things like that haven't managed to enter popular consciousness yet, so the relationship between the populations of the British Isles is possibly not that well known.

    It looks like the common trait behind these things is a tendency to underplay the radical break with the past that has taken place. In the case of the population of the British Isles, since the big migrations in the 3rd millennia the people didn't move very far until migration to North America and Australia and NZ started, and there no major new arrivals of people from outside of the immediate NW European region until even more recently.

    With St. Patrick, the general beliefs and moral view he represented was still the norm in Ireland and most of Europe for 1000 years+, until the last few decades.

    In these last two cases it seems to be recent enough to still cause cognitive dissonance in people who are quite young, say over 35?

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Interestingly, there is a rumor that Varadkar is stepping down now, or will be when they have the elections in ten weeks’ time.

    I suspect that it is tied to the defeat of the referendum to remove the references to traditional family in the constitution, and open up the door to reunifications where looser standards are applied.

    Another factor may be that they might be a tiny bit embarrassed that the leaders of England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland (4 out of 4) are all PoC now. It would seem that deniability would require at least one wasn’t. Varadkar seems the natural one to step down, since he was the first to achieve the position. (Though not without interruption) And I suspect that they won’t field a PoC candidate.

    In these last two cases it seems to be recent enough to still cause cognitive dissonance in people who are quite young, say over 35?

    Was amused by the recent story of Islamic scripture being displayed at King’s Cross. Would that they had chosen a verse denouncing sodomy.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @songbird

    Yes, Leo Varadkar, the gay Indian, has announced his resignation and yes, the collective FU given to Ireland's political class in the referendum appears to be the reason. No one expected such a one-sided defeat for the establishment so I guess someone has to take the blame.

    Bye Leo

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJH2xe6WMAANrRv?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Replies: @songbird

  636. @songbird
    @AP


    How so?
     
    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride. But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.

    That the reason that America is more European is tantamount to them having killed all the Mexicans and Peruvians up here, and ignoring the influence of climate and geography, crops, and population density, which explains those differences entirely.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?
     
    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.

    Since the Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead. As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Mr. Hack

    Since the Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead.

    The cold war was over for a brief period of time, but its now been rolled back into its greatest manifestation thanks to the stooge like antics of its greatest protagonist, Comrade Putler, if you haven’t noticed.

    Similarly, the ideology that helped fuel the greatness of the US is only in a slight slumber, ready to reemerge from the shallow hole of isolationism that is being bleated by the smaller portion of the Republican party, the MAGA crowd. Ronald Reagan was the last great Republican president, who proudly paraded throughout the capitols of Europe and announced that the US was the beacon of freedom and democracy that should support the aspirations of other less fortunate countries that also want to be a part of a family of democratic countries around the globe:

    Reagan journeyed to major cities in Europe seeking a united front against totalitarianism and the promotion of democratic ideals. Today, we face the dual challenge of aggressive authoritarian regimes in both Russia and China, and Reagan’s message is just as important today.

    Reagan was deeply committed to human freedom and human dignity as ends in themselves, emphasizing that “freedom is not the sole prerogative of the lucky few.” However, he also recognized that the world is more secure and more peaceful when democracy flourishes, saying that if the free world had supported democracy abroad “some 45 years ago, perhaps our generation wouldn’t have suffered the bloodletting of World War II.” The twin realizations of democracy and human freedom are not just in the interest of the millions of citizens living at the mercy of oppressive regimes thousands of miles beyond our shores, but also have direct implications for the national security and prosperity of the United States. This is clearly demonstrated by soaring gasoline prices in the U.S. and global food shortages that are clearly linked to Vladimir Putin’s unjust invasion of Ukraine.

    https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/31/23148705/perspective-reagan-freedom-democracy-american-ideals-speech-at-westminster-cold-war/

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    but its now been rolled back into its greatest manifestation
     
    Am not sure Koreans or Vietnamese would agree. Millions of them died. But this has certainly been a disaster for Euros, and Slavs in particular. Perhaps, even a greater diaster than any in East Asia, if you consider TFR. And the current state of the West.

    and announced that the US was the beacon of freedom and democracy that should support the aspirations of other less fortunate countries that also want to be a part of a family of democratic countries around the globe:
     
    perhaps, they should first support Britain and Ireland who are currently ruled by four PoCs and under a state of extreme invasion, which has no democratic support.

    Or perhaps, Germany, where the police pulled a 14 y.o. girl out of classroom after she made a TikTok video endorsing AfD.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. Hack

  637. @Coconuts
    @songbird


    One because it seems obvious that St. Patrick wouldn’t have tolerated him in any way, and for many hundreds of years, in such a case where a Varadkar existed, the Irish would have prayed to St. Patrick to rid them of him.

    Another because the genetic distance between St. Patrick and Ireland was undoubtedly way, way less than that found in most Indian villages, not to mention Varadkar himself.
     

    This sort of thing seems to be getting more common, where there is obvious inconsistency between the way national/religious figures are now presented and the sort of beliefs that used to be associated with them.

    I'd guess the discoveries about the Bell Beaker migrations and things like that haven't managed to enter popular consciousness yet, so the relationship between the populations of the British Isles is possibly not that well known.

    It looks like the common trait behind these things is a tendency to underplay the radical break with the past that has taken place. In the case of the population of the British Isles, since the big migrations in the 3rd millennia the people didn't move very far until migration to North America and Australia and NZ started, and there no major new arrivals of people from outside of the immediate NW European region until even more recently.

    With St. Patrick, the general beliefs and moral view he represented was still the norm in Ireland and most of Europe for 1000 years+, until the last few decades.

    In these last two cases it seems to be recent enough to still cause cognitive dissonance in people who are quite young, say over 35?

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Has anybody in Ireland made the connection from Icke’s reptilians which seem to obviously be Jews and Saint Patrick’s snakes? Did David Icke ever do any Saint Patrick’s day shows in Dublin?

  638. @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon


    “When this war is over I will financially benefit”
     
    I wouldn’t bank on all those GMO crops on the black soil of the Ukraine. They’ll be Russian exports.

    I don't have direct investments and I would profit even if Russia took all of Ukraine which is highly unlikely now that Putin is talking about making a buffer zone. I also fail to see how he can take Odesa and Kiev with his mishmash army of untrained conscripts and third world contractors that have Chechen guns in their backs. You need trained and professional soldiers to maintain a hostile city. Putin is doing everything to avoid conscripting middle class Slavs.

    When the war is over the stock market will have huge gains and I will go to Vegas. I'll sit in a hot tub and read about something else.

    Some Russian with his legs missing will hobble around a cold floor before blowing his brains out.

    That is the reality that you don't want to face. Any attempt at schadenfreude for Americans is a joke on the people that actually fight the war. It's even sadder than Anglin and the incel defense force trying to believe this war somehow sticks it to the Jews. I've asked him and his fans many times to explain how the Jews will lose when Russians die in trenches and their top response is........(drumroll)

    U MUST BE A JOO!!!!!!!

    A real brain trust.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Some Russian with his legs missing will hobble around a cold floor before blowing his brains out.

    It isn’t good for you to gloat over human misery, be it Russian or Ukrainian.

    Still, Russia is doing a lot better than Europe. Things are getting better there, not worse. It sounds almost like we used to be. I can remember in the early 70s people complaining about people living in council houses (‘projects’) with a Jaguar car outside the front door.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/15/rate-of-russian-military-production-worries-european-war-planners

    Machinists and welders in Russian factories producing war equipment are now making more money than many white-collar managers and lawyers, according to a Moscow Times analysis of Russian labour data in November.

    “The Russians have been paying for this for years. They’ve been subsidising the defence industry, and many would have said wasting money for the event that one day they need to be able to scale it up. So it was economically inefficient until 2022, and then suddenly it looks like a very shrewd bit of planning.”

    That differs significantly from western, especially European, arms manufacturers, who generally run lean operations that work across borders and are designed to maximise profit for shareholders.

    “The war has led to an unprecedented redistribution of wealth, with the poorer classes profiting from government spending on the military-industrial complex,” said Denis Volkov, the director of the Levada Center, a polling and sociological research firm in Moscow. “Workers at military factories and families of soldiers fighting in Ukraine suddenly have much more money to spend. Their income has increased dramatically.”

  639. @Dmitry
    @Mikel


    he can’t be paying a lot of attention to his family.
     
    I don't think you can guess this. He could be writing the comments while he is sitting along the family dining table in his house, joking with his wife, as a domesticated person.

    And for his children, maybe they have an independent social life. When I was growing in Russia, I think we were a lot more independent than modern children. I'm not so sure that's bad. At least, from age maybe 11-18, we liked to escape our parents as much as possible. The more typicaly American model where the parents are focusing a lot on their children and have a lot of pressure on them, could be stressful for the children.


    my advice to anyone who is writing stuff that they wouldn’t be proud of if their loved ones saw i
     
    I don't think a non-member would understand anything on here, until they posted on the thread sometime, as we are participating in a dialectical chain thread, not writing the independent comments that have the emphasis that would be created only by our own opinions.

    We are writing a group text where everyone's attention has to scroll the same chains of comments. When you discuss after a while, the purpose of the comments is to modulate the direction of the chain of texts, correct imbalances in the earlier comments in the chain, which have often been extreme in this site, meaning your own comments will also be independently unbalanced, but probably balanced in the long-term chain of texts context.

    If you are entering the threads here, you are inputting different corrections to the group text, not writing our own text.

    -

    So, because of the sensitive personalities of the authors, I was probably a little incorrectly judging the level of rudeness for over-correcting some of the inputters like Bashibuzuk/Anon4, Yahya.

    But AP is more resilient and not sensitive about it. So, an exaggerated correction of his text, can create a better the result in the overall chain, even if it means your own comments would be unbalanced if you read them only independently.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it's because we all are riding on the boat together. It's not what you would do in your solo boat. On the other side, I guess we all have some responsibility when the discussion is becoming too crazy and our boat overturns.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN, @Mikel

    I don’t think you can guess this.

    That’s all we can do but yes, we can make an educated guess.

    Of course, it’s true that in some cases your espouse and children may actually be happy that you’re leaving them alone all day. But the problem most of us family men have is the opposite. And even when our espouses would like some private space, they’d rather see you do more productive things than having petty personal arguments with strangers on the internet day in, day out.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it’s because we all are riding on the boat together.

    OK. But what if it is not your hobby to keep balancing the boat? What if some boat passengers keep compulsively rocking the boat for no good purpose and you see that they actually enjoy doing that? We end up not having a central square bar to chat anymore. Some people, as we see, stop coming to the bar and it just ends up being the gathering point for the most bored villagers who have nothing better to do on the island.

    Of course, you can’t have a good gathering point for the whole village if you try to make it a place of pure intellectual discussions, there has to be some spice and personal barbs from time to time. I’m sure Greek villagers have plenty of that too. But we’ve been doing a very bad job at keeping that balance lately. I guess having a war that has split the village in irreconcilable camps has added to the imbalance between those who enjoy having personal quarrels for the sake of it and those who don’t.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mikel

    We should talk more about Andrew Tate.

    Has anybody asked Jordan Petersen in one of his hundreds of online shows about the daughter and Andrew Tate? That would be hilarious for one minute of video clip but I sure am not going to wade through the haystacks. If only we had a powerful internet search engine.

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    Of course, you can’t have a good gathering point for the whole village if you try to make it a place of pure intellectual discussions, there has to be some spice and personal barbs from time to time.
     
    As a matter of fact, this blog did become like a daily gathering of people with free time on their hands at the watering hole in a small village. As Mikel rightly pointed out, everybody knows everybody and his/her views, nothing new ever comes in Russia-Ukraine discussions.

    Exactly like in any village “club”, the intellectual level of participants ranges widely, from dismally low to quite high (naming no names). We even have village idiots: JJ and XYZ faithfully play that role. I am sure that’s not how they see themselves, but that’s their objective function. Most of the content in these threads is 100% predictable and therefore boring, but sometimes the discussion veers off to other topics, where interesting tidbits can be found: the people have different life experiences and often post interesting info. At least I have learned quite a few new things here. My experimental work often involves waiting 30-60 min for the reactions to run their course and I don’t have enough writing/reviewing to occupy all this time. Therefore, I find this blog useful, at least more useful than pointless surfing of the internet.

    Thus, I disagree with Mikel that this blog should be terminated: it serves a purpose, like daily village gatherings (otherwise the people in every village wouldn’t engage in this kind of activity). This blog even has an advantage over physical gatherings: verbal abuse does not lead to brawls, so nobody suffers broken teeth and noses. Besides, the participants rarely get drunk and incoherent (some appear to be incoherent w/o being drunk, but that’s par for the course).

  640. @Mikel
    @Dmitry


    I don’t think you can guess this.
     
    That's all we can do but yes, we can make an educated guess.

    Of course, it's true that in some cases your espouse and children may actually be happy that you're leaving them alone all day. But the problem most of us family men have is the opposite. And even when our espouses would like some private space, they'd rather see you do more productive things than having petty personal arguments with strangers on the internet day in, day out.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it’s because we all are riding on the boat together.
     

    OK. But what if it is not your hobby to keep balancing the boat? What if some boat passengers keep compulsively rocking the boat for no good purpose and you see that they actually enjoy doing that? We end up not having a central square bar to chat anymore. Some people, as we see, stop coming to the bar and it just ends up being the gathering point for the most bored villagers who have nothing better to do on the island.

    Of course, you can't have a good gathering point for the whole village if you try to make it a place of pure intellectual discussions, there has to be some spice and personal barbs from time to time. I'm sure Greek villagers have plenty of that too. But we've been doing a very bad job at keeping that balance lately. I guess having a war that has split the village in irreconcilable camps has added to the imbalance between those who enjoy having personal quarrels for the sake of it and those who don't.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    We should talk more about Andrew Tate.

    Has anybody asked Jordan Petersen in one of his hundreds of online shows about the daughter and Andrew Tate? That would be hilarious for one minute of video clip but I sure am not going to wade through the haystacks. If only we had a powerful internet search engine.

  641. @Mikel
    @Dmitry


    I don’t think you can guess this.
     
    That's all we can do but yes, we can make an educated guess.

    Of course, it's true that in some cases your espouse and children may actually be happy that you're leaving them alone all day. But the problem most of us family men have is the opposite. And even when our espouses would like some private space, they'd rather see you do more productive things than having petty personal arguments with strangers on the internet day in, day out.

    If someone walks to one side of the boat, you need to stand on other side of the boat to stop the boat falling over. But it’s because we all are riding on the boat together.
     

    OK. But what if it is not your hobby to keep balancing the boat? What if some boat passengers keep compulsively rocking the boat for no good purpose and you see that they actually enjoy doing that? We end up not having a central square bar to chat anymore. Some people, as we see, stop coming to the bar and it just ends up being the gathering point for the most bored villagers who have nothing better to do on the island.

    Of course, you can't have a good gathering point for the whole village if you try to make it a place of pure intellectual discussions, there has to be some spice and personal barbs from time to time. I'm sure Greek villagers have plenty of that too. But we've been doing a very bad job at keeping that balance lately. I guess having a war that has split the village in irreconcilable camps has added to the imbalance between those who enjoy having personal quarrels for the sake of it and those who don't.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    Of course, you can’t have a good gathering point for the whole village if you try to make it a place of pure intellectual discussions, there has to be some spice and personal barbs from time to time.

    As a matter of fact, this blog did become like a daily gathering of people with free time on their hands at the watering hole in a small village. As Mikel rightly pointed out, everybody knows everybody and his/her views, nothing new ever comes in Russia-Ukraine discussions.

    Exactly like in any village “club”, the intellectual level of participants ranges widely, from dismally low to quite high (naming no names). We even have village idiots: JJ and XYZ faithfully play that role. I am sure that’s not how they see themselves, but that’s their objective function. Most of the content in these threads is 100% predictable and therefore boring, but sometimes the discussion veers off to other topics, where interesting tidbits can be found: the people have different life experiences and often post interesting info. At least I have learned quite a few new things here. My experimental work often involves waiting 30-60 min for the reactions to run their course and I don’t have enough writing/reviewing to occupy all this time. Therefore, I find this blog useful, at least more useful than pointless surfing of the internet.

    Thus, I disagree with Mikel that this blog should be terminated: it serves a purpose, like daily village gatherings (otherwise the people in every village wouldn’t engage in this kind of activity). This blog even has an advantage over physical gatherings: verbal abuse does not lead to brawls, so nobody suffers broken teeth and noses. Besides, the participants rarely get drunk and incoherent (some appear to be incoherent w/o being drunk, but that’s par for the course).

  642. Granted this species of kangaroo doesn’t have a large geographic range, I thought this story was kind of funny for putting the kangaroo first. As kangaroos have less <1% system blood flow to the brain.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/594507-belgorod-zoo-kangaroo-killed/

    Which renders the kangaroo in the 2022 Chinese movie Moon Man somewhat questionable. Though, it is a very cartoonish movie, to start with. (Though probably better than the Wandering Earth films)

    Just once, I would like to see a realistic depiction of marsupials in a sci-fi film.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Just once, I would like to see a realistic depiction of marsupials in a sci-fi film.
     
    I saw a video the other day where someone had 3 pet wombats. It was super cute, but made me wonder if she let them out of the house, if they would wonder off in the bushes (and not come back).

    Replies: @songbird

  643. Also I thought about this after. It seems like an odd coincidence with Peterson’s daughter sucking up to Andrew Tate at the very same time that Jordan did the style makeover where he started dressing like a negro pimp. It’s like some weirdo Romanian witch did a vengeance curse on Tate and Peterson got sprayed with carelessly aimed magic ammo.

    • Agree: songbird
    • LOL: QCIC
  644. I forgot that, in addition to the word “bistro”, Napoleon’s invasion of Russia also added French expression “C’est la Bérézina” (this is Berezina) meaning that this is a total unmitigated catastrophe.

    Another vignette I did not point out before: in Napoleon’s war on Russia participated the whole Europe, most countries that today constitute the EU. Not only French, but also Germans, Poles, even Portuguese entered Moscow in 1812. The survival rate among those who entered Moscow back then and later ran away across Western Russia was ~15%, so there were enough survivors left to tell the story. But Hegel was right, we learn from history that we do not learn from history.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AnonfromTN

    Thanks - I didnt realise about the Portuguese involvement, though of course aware of the general point that in 1812, just like now, just as in GPW - it was whole of Europe trying ( and failing) to destroy Russia.

    It also reminds that although we normally think of either the Germans or Anglo-saxons as our main historical enemies......in some form or another its the french who "deserve" this title . Direct wars against Russia such as with Napolean and alliance with the others in the Crimean , involvement/incitement in failure Poland wars against Russia....and French quick capitulation and subsequent mass military-industrialisation effort for the Nazi's probably being the key factor in Nazi war against Soviet Union. Together with the time factor smashing expectations, must assume that casualty rate in defeat of France must have been at least 10 times lower than what was planned for.

    At least the anglo-saxon faggots switch sides when convenient, the French don't appear to do that much by comparison in favour of Russia.

    Replies: @Beckow

  645. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...The empire was 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain. The Russia part flopped, though.
     
    Hey, half a cake is still something. Europe can be cannibalized for years. And it was surprisingly easy.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Hey, half a cake is still something. Europe can be cannibalized for years. And it was surprisingly easy.

    Absolutely. That’s why I always say that the imperial sanctions policy was not a total failure, it was half-successful. Only stupid imperial slaves in Europe can think (or pretend to think) that sanctions were against Russia.

  646. @QCIC
    @LatW

    I saw a clip of Joe Rogan claiming that Andrew Tate is gay. This is none of my business and not important but might be interesting. I don't have a strong opinion, except that in the Tate video clips I have watched, his "harem" of babes always seemed pretty unattractive and not well aligned with the image he promotes. I'm sure there are some very attractive women in Romania...probably from Moldova. I suppose Rogan could have been jerking Tate's chain.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    I saw a clip of Joe Rogan claiming that Andrew Tate is gay. This is none of my business and not important but might be interesting. I don’t have a strong opinion, except that in the Tate video clips I have watched, his “harem” of babes always seemed pretty unattractive and not well aligned with the image he promotes.

    I had to work with gays when I was in the city and I can tell you that he is not gay.

    They don’t fake straight by being around multiple women. They hate women and are uncomfortable talking about them in regard to sex or dating.

    What they do is marry a woman they can tolerate and depict themselves as dutiful or hard working. They become “too busy” to spend time with the wife. Long hours at the office or church.

    The red flag is when they are very social/extroverted but marry a plain woman or Asian. Gays even have a joke that the Asian girlfriend is the last step before coming out to the parents.

    Closeted gays also avoid straight men. They are afraid of slipping up which is what eventually happens. The closeted gay doesn’t go bowling or to the football game with the guys. They are the uber religious or workaholic that you never see. That is how they avoid being caught.

  647. That thing where Jordan Peterson wears that suit where one side is blue, the other dark red – that’s called “peacocking” in the PUA language. 🙂 LOL It works in some cases (if it’s done right or in the right context).

    Have no idea if that works in his age bracket, but possible. 🙂 It’s a little bold for a more mature gentleman. 🙂

    He did have some classy attire at some point. But class comes from within. 🙂

    Tate had decent attire, I like the tracksuits and the close fitting jacket (although you don’t want to overdo that and only super skinny and younger guys should do it). But I’m really tired of those cigars. Everyone does that now. It’s as if they have to go out of their way to prove they’re “masculine” and can’t find another way to be truly masculine.

    Well, he won’t be able to smoke these in prison…

    There was a funny video where he ordered and drank like 20 cups of coffee – as if he needs that, given that’s he’s already too intense.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    1. Peterson and Tate are both in the same business, albeit slightly different target markets. They sell internet media.

    2. Since Peterson is a star, he does not need PUA techniques to fulfill his awesome sex drive. When you are a star the women will let you just grab them by the pussy. His style makeover was a result of hiring a new Silicon Valley SEO consultant.

    This is a big business. See here: https://detailed.com/google-control/


    How 16 Companies are Dominating the World’s Google Search Results (2024 Edition)
    Written by Glen Allsopp
     
    Peterson wants more twitter followers. He already has all the sex he can handle.

    3. The similarities of the Tate and Peterson tales are not as interesting as the differences. Have you read Maps of Meaning? It is not an easy read. Not because all the Jung and Nietzsche citations require sophisticated background. It is not easy because of the random and erroneous logic leaps. I would write a review if it wasn't twenty years old. Perhaps it will suffice to say that Jordan Peterson considers the 5 Factor Personality Model to be a scientific fact whereas it is no such thing. The 5 Factor model came from CIA sponsored university research in order to reduce large populations of diverse people to the smallest number of necessary description variables for purpose of influence and control. It is wrong. Its motivations are sinister. Its applications waste resources. Jordan Peterson is a tool of ignorant people. Needless to add when Peterson was doing academic research he got his grants from the same crew.

    4. Tate thought he had the complete list of bribery requirements covered. Maybe he just missed one or two and he'll escape slightly roughed up and wiser. Or maybe he mis-under-estimated the depth and width of Romanian corruption by a huge amount and he is going to be eaten up and finished off. We will get some more episodes of the show until we get bored and go elsewhere. I see him as a cultural figure similar to Bill Clinton. Before Clinton banging your intern was a disgraceful act. After Clinton banging interns is just another item on the carousel of life, albeit regrettable. Before Tate beating your woman was a disgraceful act. So thanks to Clinton and Tate. I guess.

    Innovation. Disgraceful to regrettable. What will they think of next?

    Replies: @LatW

  648. @AP
    @songbird


    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride.
     
    Maybe. The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards and the French (I don't include accidental plagues as killings). The Spaniards were building universities, cathedrals, teaching natives how to write and make beautiful baroque music. There were some efforts to teach the "heathens" but for the most part they were just killed or removed. This isn't really denied, They themselves were not ashamed of having done so, and their descendants and heirs are probably foremost among all peoples in condemning such actions. Indeed doing so is a very authentic expression of their Puritan ways. Condemning one's sins before the community and aggressive moralizing were hallmarks of traditional Puritan culture.

    But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.
     
    Mixture of true and false. They were indeed "special killers" but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of - on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.
     

    Speaking of imperialist, there were the adventures in Cuba and the Philippines ~10 years ago. And the horrible Woodrow Wilson. American troops were in Libya in the early 19th century, in response to the kidnapping of US sailors very far from American waters.

    Hungary occurred during the Suez crisis IIRC and it was over too quickly for anyone to be helped. Plus, they were recent Nazi allies. Czechoslovaks didn't really fight, so not much to do.

    I suspect that if Czechoslovakia had decided to fight and had managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance. USA helped the Afghans, on the Soviet southern border.


    As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.
     
    Russia was lost to the West after the bombing of Serbia. The only question is how strong we will allow China's ally to be. It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces. Betraying Ukraine would not convince Russia to join with the USA, on the contrary it would just be further proof that the USA is a bad ally, unlike China.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way

    The Navajo Reservation is larger than the state of Massachusetts. Pine Ridge is more than double the size of Rhode Island.

    [MORE]

    that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards

    did you read this somewhere? Or did it originate from your personal animosity, directed against Old Stock Americans? Perhaps, was it imbibed from your parents?

    I was never taught this in school, and I would be very much surprised if you were.

    They were indeed “special killers” but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary

    That is the kind of back-handed complement that would brain a person, or break their neck. You appear to just be saying that they are a good place to invade.

    Speaking of imperialist, there were the adventures in Cuba and the Philippines

    the siren call of imperialism does go back a ways.

    I certainly don’t endorse the Spanish-American War, or believe it was beneficial. I will say though that it may have appeared to be more desirable at the time , due to the limitations of coal-powered ships, and the fact that was before the non-Euro population of these places exploded. Or before the incompetent MacArthur was easily defeated. Or before we had thermonuclear weapons to defend ourselves.

    But Ukraine isn’t needed as a coaling station. And i certainly wouldn’t like to see the modern pop of the US exported there.

    it would just be further proof that the USA

    The US is a bad ally. It promotes its ideology in these places, hence the George Floyd murals in Afghanistan.

    It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces.

    If you want a cold, hard, strategic argument, then the best argument from the standpoint of the interests of Europeans or Europeans within America would probably be multipolarity. And a quick end to the war, to minimize the deaths of Europeans.

    You may wish Ukraine would form its own center, which other Eastern European nations would join, but that seems quite improbable now, as more and more flee and may never come back the longer they stay away. And as the core of any nation, its men die in a prolonged war.

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird


    The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way

    The Navajo Reservation is larger than the state of Massachusetts. Pine Ridge is more than double the size of Rhode Island.
     
    I was talking about the original ones. How many Indians are left east of the Mississippi? Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.

    that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards

    did you read this somewhere? Or did it originate from your personal animosity, directed against Old Stock Americans?
     
    I know that from the Caribbean to the Americas, there is a strong Native genetic legacy which means that the natives were not wiped out. Even the Hispanos of New Mexico who speak an ancient Spanish dialect and consider themselves to be Spaniards, are 25% Native. What about New Englanders? (and before you clam that this is because woman-less Conquistadors just killed all the Native men and took Native concubines - paternal Native ancestry of Mexican Mestizos is around 30%).

    You seem to be eager to be offended on behalf of Puritans. But they, themselves, would not be offended by what I say. And their descendants certainly are not.

    Didn't you know that moralism and harsh self-criticism was a hallmark of Puritan culture? This is what the Old Stock Puritans did every Sunday at their religious meetinghouses, taken from Albion's Seed:

    https://i.imgur.com/JIKpVZz.png

    The culture changes its external form, but doesn't die.

    I never claimed they [Puritans] have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    That is the kind of back-handed complement that would brain a person, or break their neck. You appear to just be saying that they are a good place to invade.
     
    If someone praises your home would you interpret that to mean that they are just saying that your home is a good place for squatters to take over? I also like northern Italy and Austria very much. Do you interpret these words as saying that those are good places to invade?

    What a nonsensical way of interpreting someone's words.

    And at any rate an invasion would necessarily replace or eliminate that which was praised. That would be bad.

    As I said, the Anglos (especially the Puritans) built what is a very pleasant, prosperous, and highly-functioning place in the New World.

    It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces.

    If you want a cold, hard, strategic argument, then the best argument from the standpoint of the interests of Europeans or Europeans within America would probably be multipolarity.
     
    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

  649. @Coconuts
    @LatW

    I think he is mixed and he is a Muslim.

    Replies: @LatW

    I think he is mixed and he is a Muslim.

    He only “became” “Muslim” a year ago (typical). But he was originally “Christian”, the Romanian “Orthodox”. This is all not serious.

    His father is black (and most likely abandoned the familly), you can see in his case how some of these mixed children with black fathers really struggle. It’s kind of sad. Although many people have had a challenging background, yet it didn’t cause them to go that far.. it’s not our fault what happened to him. Many others have it even harder.

  650. @songbird
    Granted this species of kangaroo doesn't have a large geographic range, I thought this story was kind of funny for putting the kangaroo first. As kangaroos have less <1% system blood flow to the brain.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/594507-belgorod-zoo-kangaroo-killed/

    Which renders the kangaroo in the 2022 Chinese movie Moon Man somewhat questionable. Though, it is a very cartoonish movie, to start with. (Though probably better than the Wandering Earth films)

    Just once, I would like to see a realistic depiction of marsupials in a sci-fi film.

    Replies: @LatW

    Just once, I would like to see a realistic depiction of marsupials in a sci-fi film.

    I saw a video the other day where someone had 3 pet wombats. It was super cute, but made me wonder if she let them out of the house, if they would wonder off in the bushes (and not come back).

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    It was super cute, but made me wonder if she let them out of the house, if they would wonder off in the bushes (and not come back
     
    Have heard some speculation that wombats are the smart champions, among Aussie marsupials. Both because of brain size and their ability to navigate tunnels. But they certainly don't seem intelligent.

    Probably one of the marsups from the Americas would be like von Neumann, in comparison.

    They are cute animals though. Not like this bald raccoon.
    https://youtu.be/iihbzLq-MWY?si=aK6UFoUtBi1vrLec

    Replies: @LatW

  651. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Since the Cold War is over, that leaves us with the question of what it was fought over, whether ideology, pure dialectic, or strategic reasons.

    The first is dead.
     

    The cold war was over for a brief period of time, but its now been rolled back into its greatest manifestation thanks to the stooge like antics of its greatest protagonist, Comrade Putler, if you haven't noticed.

    Similarly, the ideology that helped fuel the greatness of the US is only in a slight slumber, ready to reemerge from the shallow hole of isolationism that is being bleated by the smaller portion of the Republican party, the MAGA crowd. Ronald Reagan was the last great Republican president, who proudly paraded throughout the capitols of Europe and announced that the US was the beacon of freedom and democracy that should support the aspirations of other less fortunate countries that also want to be a part of a family of democratic countries around the globe:


    Reagan journeyed to major cities in Europe seeking a united front against totalitarianism and the promotion of democratic ideals. Today, we face the dual challenge of aggressive authoritarian regimes in both Russia and China, and Reagan’s message is just as important today.

    Reagan was deeply committed to human freedom and human dignity as ends in themselves, emphasizing that “freedom is not the sole prerogative of the lucky few.” However, he also recognized that the world is more secure and more peaceful when democracy flourishes, saying that if the free world had supported democracy abroad “some 45 years ago, perhaps our generation wouldn’t have suffered the bloodletting of World War II.” The twin realizations of democracy and human freedom are not just in the interest of the millions of citizens living at the mercy of oppressive regimes thousands of miles beyond our shores, but also have direct implications for the national security and prosperity of the United States. This is clearly demonstrated by soaring gasoline prices in the U.S. and global food shortages that are clearly linked to Vladimir Putin’s unjust invasion of Ukraine.
     

    https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/31/23148705/perspective-reagan-freedom-democracy-american-ideals-speech-at-westminster-cold-war/

    Replies: @songbird

    but its now been rolled back into its greatest manifestation

    Am not sure Koreans or Vietnamese would agree. Millions of them died. But this has certainly been a disaster for Euros, and Slavs in particular. Perhaps, even a greater diaster than any in East Asia, if you consider TFR. And the current state of the West.

    and announced that the US was the beacon of freedom and democracy that should support the aspirations of other less fortunate countries that also want to be a part of a family of democratic countries around the globe:

    perhaps, they should first support Britain and Ireland who are currently ruled by four PoCs and under a state of extreme invasion, which has no democratic support.

    Or perhaps, Germany, where the police pulled a 14 y.o. girl out of classroom after she made a TikTok video endorsing AfD.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    4 POCs are now 3 - Varadkar has resigned.

    On topic, I hadn't realised that the USAF C130J which flew Tblisi to Almaty last night, and is now apparently returning to Tblisi, is a dedicated Special Ops plane. Now at Tblisi.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/MISFT61/34709ba1


    Based on the Lockheed C-130 Hercules transport, the MC-130s' missions are the infiltration, exfiltration, and resupply of special operations forces, and the air refueling of (primarily) special operations helicopter and tilt-rotor aircraft.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_MC-130#MC-130J_Commando_II
    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    But this has certainly been a disaster for Euros, and Slavs in particular.
     
    I don't read much about Poles, Slovaks, Czechs, Bulgarians or even either Serbs complaining about their disastrous conditions due to moving over to the Western block of democracies? Ukrainians are thrilled at the prospect of joining this club, if only to have access to much needed weaponry.

    perhaps, they should first support Britain and Ireland who are currently ruled by four PoCs and under a state of extreme invasion, which has no democratic support.
     
    If you mean unimpeded immigration, all I can say is that the locals already living in these areas for generations, need to make their voices heard louder and vote for candidates that represent their views.

    Or perhaps, Germany, where the police pulled a 14 y.o. girl out of classroom after she made a TikTok video endorsing AfD.
     
    This is of course a travesty of justice, and is garnering concern around the world, but I don't in any way see this as a result of Reagan's promotion of democracy and human rights that he promoted over 40 years ago.

    Replies: @songbird, @Coconuts

  652. As they say – can’t stand the heat, don’t go to the kitchen, but now we have some relatively freshly baked US citizen, who is repeatedly crying for (not his own) guest kitchen to be closed in this case, lol

    • Replies: @LatW
    @sudden death

    All animals are equal, but I guess "freedom of speech" which he fought so hard for before is only reserved for some special animals. :)

    , @Mikel
    @sudden death

    Freshly baked EU citizens who shouldn't have been allowed in before going through a prudent anti-Sovok quarantine period are unable to distinguish between defending freedom of speech and lamenting the degradation of discourse in a blog. Another proof, as if we didn't have enough, that we should stay clear of their neighborhood quarrels.

    I am totally in favor of you, Jojo, LatW, XYZ and whoever wants to join the party having as many retarded and autistic debates as you please. You cannot make me enjoy them though. Nor prevent me from saying what I think about them. Shouldn't be difficult to understand but it is what it is. Hard though you try to hide it, the Sovok spirit seeps through.

    Replies: @sudden death

  653. @sudden death
    As they say - can't stand the heat, don't go to the kitchen, but now we have some relatively freshly baked US citizen, who is repeatedly crying for (not his own) guest kitchen to be closed in this case, lol

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel

    All animals are equal, but I guess “freedom of speech” which he fought so hard for before is only reserved for some special animals. 🙂

  654. @LatW
    @songbird


    Just once, I would like to see a realistic depiction of marsupials in a sci-fi film.
     
    I saw a video the other day where someone had 3 pet wombats. It was super cute, but made me wonder if she let them out of the house, if they would wonder off in the bushes (and not come back).

    Replies: @songbird

    It was super cute, but made me wonder if she let them out of the house, if they would wonder off in the bushes (and not come back

    Have heard some speculation that wombats are the smart champions, among Aussie marsupials. Both because of brain size and their ability to navigate tunnels. But they certainly don’t seem intelligent.

    Probably one of the marsups from the Americas would be like von Neumann, in comparison.

    They are cute animals though. Not like this bald raccoon.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    But they certainly don’t seem intelligent.
     
    They looked too small and too "mechanical" to be intelligent. They seemed a bit hyperactive as well, as they were crawling all over her and moving around a lot.

    Not like this bald raccoon.
     
    Aw, poor thing, it's shivering. I wish I could knit her a little vest. :)

    It looks completely different than ones with fur. Little weirdo. :) I wonder how long one with alopecia would survive in the wild.

    Replies: @songbird

  655. @songbird
    @LatW


    It was super cute, but made me wonder if she let them out of the house, if they would wonder off in the bushes (and not come back
     
    Have heard some speculation that wombats are the smart champions, among Aussie marsupials. Both because of brain size and their ability to navigate tunnels. But they certainly don't seem intelligent.

    Probably one of the marsups from the Americas would be like von Neumann, in comparison.

    They are cute animals though. Not like this bald raccoon.
    https://youtu.be/iihbzLq-MWY?si=aK6UFoUtBi1vrLec

    Replies: @LatW

    But they certainly don’t seem intelligent.

    They looked too small and too “mechanical” to be intelligent. They seemed a bit hyperactive as well, as they were crawling all over her and moving around a lot.

    [MORE]

    Not like this bald raccoon.

    Aw, poor thing, it’s shivering. I wish I could knit her a little vest. 🙂

    It looks completely different than ones with fur. Little weirdo. 🙂 I wonder how long one with alopecia would survive in the wild.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    A collection of wombats is called a "wisdom.". They have sometimes been observed using tree bark to block the entrance to their burrows or pushing rocks or sticks to help them dig.

    Their brain-to-body ratio is higher than some low tier monkeys or ungulates. Their brains are more convoluted than many other marsups.

    They have this cartilage plate inside them kind of like armor. They can block their tunnels with their rear ends and even crush the skulls of small predators by pushing against them this way.

    Have heard they are somewhat resistant to being hit by a car.

    Some say that their waste being cube-shaped helps it stay in place to mark territory, though it seems an exaggeration to call it cubic.


    Aw, poor thing, it’s shivering. I wish I could knit her a little vest.
     
    Coons can be kind of viscious. Heard someone once say that they can peel the skin off a chicken pretty quick.

    I wonder how long one with alopecia would survive in the wild.
     
    Guess it probably depends on a lot of factors like the temp and what the cause of it is.

    Not really the same thing, but I saw a fox with mange early last spring. Had the idea that it had to make a kill every day to survive the (freezing) night, but maybe that was just my imagination.

    Replies: @LatW

  656. @sudden death
    As they say - can't stand the heat, don't go to the kitchen, but now we have some relatively freshly baked US citizen, who is repeatedly crying for (not his own) guest kitchen to be closed in this case, lol

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel

    Freshly baked EU citizens who shouldn’t have been allowed in before going through a prudent anti-Sovok quarantine period are unable to distinguish between defending freedom of speech and lamenting the degradation of discourse in a blog. Another proof, as if we didn’t have enough, that we should stay clear of their neighborhood quarrels.

    I am totally in favor of you, Jojo, LatW, XYZ and whoever wants to join the party having as many retarded and autistic debates as you please. You cannot make me enjoy them though. Nor prevent me from saying what I think about them. Shouldn’t be difficult to understand but it is what it is. Hard though you try to hide it, the Sovok spirit seeps through.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Mikel

    Lamenting the degradation in a blog is almost the tradition here, perhaps a majority of posters, no matter the political orientations, have done it at one point or another, in order to let the steam off. It's nothing, but a usual deal, but you're getting more heat not because of this, but of your rhetorical (so far?) calls to Unz to shut it all down, too lazy to sift it all and show posts by numeration or direct quotes, but there have been at least several from you lately.

    And ofc, you have own freedom of speech to do it, just as I have my own to ridicule it;)

    Replies: @Mikel

  657. @songbird
    @Coconuts

    Interestingly, there is a rumor that Varadkar is stepping down now, or will be when they have the elections in ten weeks' time.

    I suspect that it is tied to the defeat of the referendum to remove the references to traditional family in the constitution, and open up the door to reunifications where looser standards are applied.

    Another factor may be that they might be a tiny bit embarrassed that the leaders of England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland (4 out of 4) are all PoC now. It would seem that deniability would require at least one wasn't. Varadkar seems the natural one to step down, since he was the first to achieve the position. (Though not without interruption) And I suspect that they won't field a PoC candidate.


    In these last two cases it seems to be recent enough to still cause cognitive dissonance in people who are quite young, say over 35?
     
    Was amused by the recent story of Islamic scripture being displayed at King's Cross. Would that they had chosen a verse denouncing sodomy.

    Replies: @Matra

    Yes, Leo Varadkar, the gay Indian, has announced his resignation and yes, the collective FU given to Ireland’s political class in the referendum appears to be the reason. No one expected such a one-sided defeat for the establishment so I guess someone has to take the blame.

    Bye Leo

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJH2xe6WMAANrRv?format=jpg&name=900×900

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @songbird
    @Matra

    Have heard it implied that some pederasty scandal is about to drop re: Varadkar. But prob wishful thinking on someone's part.

    @YetAnotherAnon
    There is always Sadiq.

    Replies: @Matra

  658. @LatW
    That thing where Jordan Peterson wears that suit where one side is blue, the other dark red - that's called "peacocking" in the PUA language. :) LOL It works in some cases (if it's done right or in the right context).

    Have no idea if that works in his age bracket, but possible. :) It's a little bold for a more mature gentleman. :)

    He did have some classy attire at some point. But class comes from within. :)

    Tate had decent attire, I like the tracksuits and the close fitting jacket (although you don't want to overdo that and only super skinny and younger guys should do it). But I'm really tired of those cigars. Everyone does that now. It's as if they have to go out of their way to prove they're "masculine" and can't find another way to be truly masculine.

    Well, he won't be able to smoke these in prison...

    There was a funny video where he ordered and drank like 20 cups of coffee - as if he needs that, given that's he's already too intense.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    1. Peterson and Tate are both in the same business, albeit slightly different target markets. They sell internet media.

    2. Since Peterson is a star, he does not need PUA techniques to fulfill his awesome sex drive. When you are a star the women will let you just grab them by the pussy. His style makeover was a result of hiring a new Silicon Valley SEO consultant.

    This is a big business. See here: https://detailed.com/google-control/

    How 16 Companies are Dominating the World’s Google Search Results (2024 Edition)
    Written by Glen Allsopp

    Peterson wants more twitter followers. He already has all the sex he can handle.

    3. The similarities of the Tate and Peterson tales are not as interesting as the differences. Have you read Maps of Meaning? It is not an easy read. Not because all the Jung and Nietzsche citations require sophisticated background. It is not easy because of the random and erroneous logic leaps. I would write a review if it wasn’t twenty years old. Perhaps it will suffice to say that Jordan Peterson considers the 5 Factor Personality Model to be a scientific fact whereas it is no such thing. The 5 Factor model came from CIA sponsored university research in order to reduce large populations of diverse people to the smallest number of necessary description variables for purpose of influence and control. It is wrong. Its motivations are sinister. Its applications waste resources. Jordan Peterson is a tool of ignorant people. Needless to add when Peterson was doing academic research he got his grants from the same crew.

    4. Tate thought he had the complete list of bribery requirements covered. Maybe he just missed one or two and he’ll escape slightly roughed up and wiser. Or maybe he mis-under-estimated the depth and width of Romanian corruption by a huge amount and he is going to be eaten up and finished off. We will get some more episodes of the show until we get bored and go elsewhere. I see him as a cultural figure similar to Bill Clinton. Before Clinton banging your intern was a disgraceful act. After Clinton banging interns is just another item on the carousel of life, albeit regrettable. Before Tate beating your woman was a disgraceful act. So thanks to Clinton and Tate. I guess.

    Innovation. Disgraceful to regrettable. What will they think of next?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Peterson and Tate are both in the same business, albeit slightlydifferent target markets. They sell internet media.
     
    Of course, it's a niche they are filling, and I agree, slightly different target audiences. Peterson is a somewhat serious intellectual, unlike the other one.

    Of course, I'm aware it's largely about money and viewership, but content matters, too. This is not "neutral" content. We don't go through all the pains of creating and raising our children just to give them away to destructive forces. Either Tate or trannies.


    Peterson wants more twitter followers. He already has all the sex he can handle.
     
    I was just joking. If it helps garner more attention, I get it, although it's a bit too bold. Afaik, he's been married for a long time and has defended monogamy.

    And, yes, it's annoying how it always ends up just being a few companies that control everything (in various industries).


    Have you read Maps of Meaning?
     
    No, I'm not much of his follower. But I've read Jung's Wotan several times. Is this some kind of an interdisciplinary view of it?

    The 5 Factor model came from CIA sponsored university research in order to reduce large populations of diverse people to the smallest number of necessary description variables for purpose of influence and control.
     
    Was that the only reason it was created? So what are you saying, that Peterson is pushing this kind of stuff?

    Btw, I finally got BAP's book (took a little peak at it, seems quite good, quite academic). So will probably read some this weekend.


    Tate thought he had the complete list of bribery requirements covered.
     
    It's a misconception that all of the EE is corrupt or that it is completely corrupt and that people and governments there have no capacity or self-respect. Or that you can do anything just because you're American. It's not the 90s anymore and Romania has been in the EU for 20 years. I know you probably don't consider this as a factor since corruption can work anywhere, including in the West. And - pimping has been illegal there for a long time now. They cracked down on all that stuff 15 years ago.

    He must indeed be rich if he was able to afford Chris Brown's lawyer.


    I see him as a cultural figure similar to Bill Clinton. Before Clinton banging your intern was a disgraceful act. Before Tate beating your woman was a disgraceful act.
     
    Actually, it still is for some. But, that's true, they're both just damaging their own society. Although Tate doesn't even consider the West his society, since he has adopted Islam. But he should not spread his degeneracy to EE. I'm not a believer in glocalization in this case.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  659. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    but its now been rolled back into its greatest manifestation
     
    Am not sure Koreans or Vietnamese would agree. Millions of them died. But this has certainly been a disaster for Euros, and Slavs in particular. Perhaps, even a greater diaster than any in East Asia, if you consider TFR. And the current state of the West.

    and announced that the US was the beacon of freedom and democracy that should support the aspirations of other less fortunate countries that also want to be a part of a family of democratic countries around the globe:
     
    perhaps, they should first support Britain and Ireland who are currently ruled by four PoCs and under a state of extreme invasion, which has no democratic support.

    Or perhaps, Germany, where the police pulled a 14 y.o. girl out of classroom after she made a TikTok video endorsing AfD.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. Hack

    4 POCs are now 3 – Varadkar has resigned.

    On topic, I hadn’t realised that the USAF C130J which flew Tblisi to Almaty last night, and is now apparently returning to Tblisi, is a dedicated Special Ops plane. Now at Tblisi.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/MISFT61/34709ba1

    Based on the Lockheed C-130 Hercules transport, the MC-130s’ missions are the infiltration, exfiltration, and resupply of special operations forces, and the air refueling of (primarily) special operations helicopter and tilt-rotor aircraft.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_MC-130#MC-130J_Commando_II

  660. @Mikel
    @sudden death

    Freshly baked EU citizens who shouldn't have been allowed in before going through a prudent anti-Sovok quarantine period are unable to distinguish between defending freedom of speech and lamenting the degradation of discourse in a blog. Another proof, as if we didn't have enough, that we should stay clear of their neighborhood quarrels.

    I am totally in favor of you, Jojo, LatW, XYZ and whoever wants to join the party having as many retarded and autistic debates as you please. You cannot make me enjoy them though. Nor prevent me from saying what I think about them. Shouldn't be difficult to understand but it is what it is. Hard though you try to hide it, the Sovok spirit seeps through.

    Replies: @sudden death

    Lamenting the degradation in a blog is almost the tradition here, perhaps a majority of posters, no matter the political orientations, have done it at one point or another, in order to let the steam off. It’s nothing, but a usual deal, but you’re getting more heat not because of this, but of your rhetorical (so far?) calls to Unz to shut it all down, too lazy to sift it all and show posts by numeration or direct quotes, but there have been at least several from you lately.

    And ofc, you have own freedom of speech to do it, just as I have my own to ridicule it;)

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @sudden death


    And ofc, you have own freedom of speech to do it, just as I have my own to ridicule it;)
     
    Except that you're confusing concepts as freedom of speech and ineptly trying to ridicule what I never said. If I wanted to ask Unz to cancel this blog, he has a reader feedback thread where I could have done that. XYZ has made it very easy to provide reasons for it.

    However, I don't want to cancel anybody, not even the perv. I just said in this thread that Unz would do me a favor if he closed down this blog and (for the same reason) I said that that's what he should do in the previous thread. We are not discussing the topics he's interested in, much though he insists every time he opens a new thread, and it's not his fault that we cannot find a better place to debate.

    But thanks for recognizing my right to say what I think. Perhaps there is some hope with you guys. Still, if I had known what was coming, I think I would have voted to oppose the EU enlargement in 2004 rather than thinking as I did that it was great to see everybody in Europe embark on a peaceful project. Most of us in the West are just a bunch of irremediable cucks.

    Replies: @sudden death

  661. @AP
    @Dmitry


    It sounded like his ancestors assimilated in the way which was expected in the Ellis Island times. You were to become American externally. But, the society encouraged separate ethnic prides with events “Columbus Day”, “Saint Patrick’s Day”, continuing traditional religions from the origin country not exclusive of minority sects, even some of the ethnic lobbying in politics was allowed, although not when it can directly contradict the government’s direction like the German American Bund in 1941.
     
    Your description of Ellis Island immigrants is accurate, and is also true of Ellis Island early wave of Ukrainian immigrants, but the Ellis Island people mostly came over for economic reasons and quickly assimilated linguistically - usually after the first generation (and sometimes even the first generation could not speak their own parents' language). Such was the case of the Italians, Irish, Poles, etc. They are proud of their heritage but are monolingual English speakers and other than family recipes and the words for "grandma" don't have much in common with their kin in the "old country."

    Ukrainians of the post-war period came over involuntarily, as refugees. They better retained their culture and in this way are more like Latvians of the post-war emigration, White Russians after the Revolution (my wife once met a 4th or 5th generation one who still spoke excellent Russian despite never having been to Russia - the family left in 1918), Armenians, and Jews.

    But you are correct that we also take for granted many American norms. You once wrote an excellent description of American Jews in Israel, being very American despite speaking Hebrew.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Ukrainians of the post-war period came over involuntarily, as refugees. They better retained their culture and in this way are more like Latvians of the post-war emigration, White Russians after the Revolution (my wife once met a 4th or 5th generation one who still spoke excellent Russian despite never having been to Russia – the family left in 1918), Armenians, and Jews.

    You can also compare all of these groups to the Parsis, whom I think moved to India over 1,000 years ago and retained their traditional Zoroastrian faith, even while their traditional homeland of Iran converted to Islam. IIRC, I previously read somewhere that the Parsis are around 75% Iranian by ancestry.

  662. @AP
    @songbird


    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride.
     
    Maybe. The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards and the French (I don't include accidental plagues as killings). The Spaniards were building universities, cathedrals, teaching natives how to write and make beautiful baroque music. There were some efforts to teach the "heathens" but for the most part they were just killed or removed. This isn't really denied, They themselves were not ashamed of having done so, and their descendants and heirs are probably foremost among all peoples in condemning such actions. Indeed doing so is a very authentic expression of their Puritan ways. Condemning one's sins before the community and aggressive moralizing were hallmarks of traditional Puritan culture.

    But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.
     
    Mixture of true and false. They were indeed "special killers" but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of - on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.
     

    Speaking of imperialist, there were the adventures in Cuba and the Philippines ~10 years ago. And the horrible Woodrow Wilson. American troops were in Libya in the early 19th century, in response to the kidnapping of US sailors very far from American waters.

    Hungary occurred during the Suez crisis IIRC and it was over too quickly for anyone to be helped. Plus, they were recent Nazi allies. Czechoslovaks didn't really fight, so not much to do.

    I suspect that if Czechoslovakia had decided to fight and had managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance. USA helped the Afghans, on the Soviet southern border.


    As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.
     
    Russia was lost to the West after the bombing of Serbia. The only question is how strong we will allow China's ally to be. It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces. Betraying Ukraine would not convince Russia to join with the USA, on the contrary it would just be further proof that the USA is a bad ally, unlike China.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    Mixture of true and false. They were indeed “special killers” but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    Even those people who did not end up in the Anglosphere still benefitted from all of the science, technology, and innovation–not to mention pop culture, et cetera (cinema and whatnot) that the Anglosphere produced. Even the Internet is an Anglosphere invention, for instance.

    Spain and France were better to Native Americans but they didn’t produce any huge innovation hubs in the Americans comparable to what the Anglosphere produced. Quebec is objectively nice, though, but Latin America unfortunately has a lot of extremely violent places. Though the Latin Americans in the Anglosphere do better.

    I suspect that if Czechoslovakia had decided to fight and had managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance. USA helped the Afghans, on the Soviet southern border.

    Yep.

    Russia was lost to the West after the bombing of Serbia. The only question is how strong we will allow China’s ally to be. It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces. Betraying Ukraine would not convince Russia to join with the USA, on the contrary it would just be further proof that the USA is a bad ally, unlike China.

    Well, I think that there was the potential for Russia to have an equidistant relationship with the West and China until 2014 or so had the West actually allowed Russia to reintegrate Ukraine. As in, where Russia would balance the West and China against each other for its own benefit. Though even there, Russia would probably lean towards China because China wouldn’t be supporting color revolutions in the ex-USSR space and elsewhere like the West would be.

    I suppose that a cynic could say that allowing Russia to conquer Ukraine could weaken Russia by having Russia deal with persistent protests and terrorism there for decades to come, necessitating the permanent stationing of a Russian military garrison over there, possibly a large one, but I’m unsure just how expensive this would actually be for Russia (Russia could have tried forcing its Ukrainian puppet government to pay for the cost of this deployment and/or sold Ukrainian agricultural land and/or Ukrainian natural resources such as lithium to China, India, et cetera to help pay for the cost of this indefinite Russian troop deployment in Ukraine). I also believe that Russia would have been capable of escalating its brutality to 1950s French Algeria levels (France tortured hundreds of thousands of Algerians during the Algerian War of Independence) if doing this was ever actually perceived as being necessary by Russia to quiet down a conquered Ukraine. In such a scenario, I doubt that even the Russian relatives of the “suspected Ukrainian Banderists” who would have been tortured (and/or gulaged) by Russia would have complained too much, instead often arguing that their relatives simply got what they deserved by resisting Russian puppet rule in Ukraine and not knowing their proper place.

  663. @Dmitry
    @Mikel

    From years with AP about unrelated topics, I had somehow a sensation his natural desire is to be a wealthy playboy who dates beautiful younger women, collects wine and drives Ferraris around the beach.

    So, his family could be happy he is doing boring, cheap hobbies like debating politics on the internet, that's domestication.It's not dating his secretaries and buying them Versace dresses using the children's future education bank accounts.

    -

    About the debate on who can call himself a "real American". AP is a real American, if he was born and schooling there. You are a Spanish person who immigrated to America, who has an American citizenship? You can say you are American legally, politically, probably not culturally.

    AnonfromTN is an Ukrainian from the USSR, even if he more years in Tennessee than Ukraine now. I don't think he should say to people "I'm a bluegrass American from Tennessee" even if he lives there to his 100th birthday, it's not a culturally native person.

    I exited Russia over 8 years ago, become more distant from Russia every year, don't think about it for days sometimes. But I can notice my dreams at night, are still back in Russia. Origins follow you like a shadow.

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel, @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    The brain is setup by the school, the society of your culture when were a kid, the culture of your school playground, the culture of your friends in the playground and the voices of your teachers and parents. A lot of those setup settings are permanent all your life.

    This is probably why I identify so much with the Jewish quarter of my ancestry due to my spending the first 8.5+ years of my life in Israel, learning Hebrew (which I subsequently almost completely forgot after I moved to the US, unfortunately), celebrating the Jewish holidays with my family and Jewish relatives in Israel, attending a semi-religious school in Israel (even though I’m not halakhically Jewish) because my parents believed that the public schools in Israel were too crappy, et cetera.

    I am patriotic towards the US and strongly identify with the US, though. I’m more loyal to the US than I am to Israel. But I’m still very aware of my Jewish identity, which I am proud of even though I am not halakhically Jewish and not even the child (as opposed to the grandchild) of someone who is. I am of course also vehemently repulsed by right-wing Jewish Israeli intolerance and bigotry towards people such as myself because our Jewish ancestry is on the “wrong” branch(es) of our family trees.

  664. @sudden death
    @Mikel

    Lamenting the degradation in a blog is almost the tradition here, perhaps a majority of posters, no matter the political orientations, have done it at one point or another, in order to let the steam off. It's nothing, but a usual deal, but you're getting more heat not because of this, but of your rhetorical (so far?) calls to Unz to shut it all down, too lazy to sift it all and show posts by numeration or direct quotes, but there have been at least several from you lately.

    And ofc, you have own freedom of speech to do it, just as I have my own to ridicule it;)

    Replies: @Mikel

    And ofc, you have own freedom of speech to do it, just as I have my own to ridicule it;)

    Except that you’re confusing concepts as freedom of speech and ineptly trying to ridicule what I never said. If I wanted to ask Unz to cancel this blog, he has a reader feedback thread where I could have done that. XYZ has made it very easy to provide reasons for it.

    However, I don’t want to cancel anybody, not even the perv. I just said in this thread that Unz would do me a favor if he closed down this blog and (for the same reason) I said that that’s what he should do in the previous thread. We are not discussing the topics he’s interested in, much though he insists every time he opens a new thread, and it’s not his fault that we cannot find a better place to debate.

    But thanks for recognizing my right to say what I think. Perhaps there is some hope with you guys. Still, if I had known what was coming, I think I would have voted to oppose the EU enlargement in 2004 rather than thinking as I did that it was great to see everybody in Europe embark on a peaceful project. Most of us in the West are just a bunch of irremediable cucks.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Mikel

    Self-confession might be first step to recovery, if even serial Western cuck in the past towards RF like Macron managed to get better, then there's hope for all;)

  665. @Matra
    @songbird

    Yes, Leo Varadkar, the gay Indian, has announced his resignation and yes, the collective FU given to Ireland's political class in the referendum appears to be the reason. No one expected such a one-sided defeat for the establishment so I guess someone has to take the blame.

    Bye Leo

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJH2xe6WMAANrRv?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Replies: @songbird

    Have heard it implied that some pederasty scandal is about to drop re: Varadkar. But prob wishful thinking on someone’s part.


    There is always Sadiq.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @songbird

    I'd be surprised if there is a paedo scandal. He was credibly accused of violating his own electoral laws campaigning during the referendum and his lame St. Patrick was a single, male, undocumented migrant (yes, seriously!) statement last week was embarrassing even to the pro-immigration crowd so maybe he's just a dead weight for the ruling class at this point. Maybe he'll have a bright future with the EU in Brussels or with the WEF, which he'd probably prefer to being Irish PM anyway.

    On Ukraine...Today I noticed a lot of hostility towards Polish and other EU farmers from the pro-Ukraine activists on social media. The Polish ones blocking imports from Ukraine are being denounced as Russian puppets working for Putler. Who knew he had this much power?

    Only Macron will fight them!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJIcfQiWYAAR_LE?format=jpg&name=medium

  666. @songbird
    @A123


    Or, Disney is forking over cash to buy George’s public support?
     
    After what they did to both Luke and Indy, it is hard for me to believe that they aren't blackmailing him.

    It doesn't seem like a natural reaction, unless it is some form of conflict avoidance.

    Replies: @A123

    Disney dropped a trailer for The Acolyte. It has been ratioed everywhere.

    Everyone knows this is going to crater on launch.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123

    Pretty sad when they can't even package a decent trailer that lasts less than two minutes.

  667. @songbird
    @AP


    The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way
     
    The Navajo Reservation is larger than the state of Massachusetts. Pine Ridge is more than double the size of Rhode Island.

    that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards
     
    did you read this somewhere? Or did it originate from your personal animosity, directed against Old Stock Americans? Perhaps, was it imbibed from your parents?

    I was never taught this in school, and I would be very much surprised if you were.


    They were indeed “special killers” but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary

     

    That is the kind of back-handed complement that would brain a person, or break their neck. You appear to just be saying that they are a good place to invade.

    Speaking of imperialist, there were the adventures in Cuba and the Philippines
     
    the siren call of imperialism does go back a ways.

    I certainly don't endorse the Spanish-American War, or believe it was beneficial. I will say though that it may have appeared to be more desirable at the time , due to the limitations of coal-powered ships, and the fact that was before the non-Euro population of these places exploded. Or before the incompetent MacArthur was easily defeated. Or before we had thermonuclear weapons to defend ourselves.

    But Ukraine isn't needed as a coaling station. And i certainly wouldn't like to see the modern pop of the US exported there.


    it would just be further proof that the USA
     
    The US is a bad ally. It promotes its ideology in these places, hence the George Floyd murals in Afghanistan.

    It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces.
     
    If you want a cold, hard, strategic argument, then the best argument from the standpoint of the interests of Europeans or Europeans within America would probably be multipolarity. And a quick end to the war, to minimize the deaths of Europeans.

    You may wish Ukraine would form its own center, which other Eastern European nations would join, but that seems quite improbable now, as more and more flee and may never come back the longer they stay away. And as the core of any nation, its men die in a prolonged war.

    Replies: @AP

    The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way

    The Navajo Reservation is larger than the state of Massachusetts. Pine Ridge is more than double the size of Rhode Island.

    I was talking about the original ones. How many Indians are left east of the Mississippi? Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.

    that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards

    did you read this somewhere? Or did it originate from your personal animosity, directed against Old Stock Americans?

    I know that from the Caribbean to the Americas, there is a strong Native genetic legacy which means that the natives were not wiped out. Even the Hispanos of New Mexico who speak an ancient Spanish dialect and consider themselves to be Spaniards, are 25% Native. What about New Englanders? (and before you clam that this is because woman-less Conquistadors just killed all the Native men and took Native concubines – paternal Native ancestry of Mexican Mestizos is around 30%).

    You seem to be eager to be offended on behalf of Puritans. But they, themselves, would not be offended by what I say. And their descendants certainly are not.

    Didn’t you know that moralism and harsh self-criticism was a hallmark of Puritan culture? This is what the Old Stock Puritans did every Sunday at their religious meetinghouses, taken from Albion’s Seed:

    The culture changes its external form, but doesn’t die.

    I never claimed they [Puritans] have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    That is the kind of back-handed complement that would brain a person, or break their neck. You appear to just be saying that they are a good place to invade.

    If someone praises your home would you interpret that to mean that they are just saying that your home is a good place for squatters to take over? I also like northern Italy and Austria very much. Do you interpret these words as saying that those are good places to invade?

    What a nonsensical way of interpreting someone’s words.

    And at any rate an invasion would necessarily replace or eliminate that which was praised. That would be bad.

    As I said, the Anglos (especially the Puritans) built what is a very pleasant, prosperous, and highly-functioning place in the New World.

    It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces.

    If you want a cold, hard, strategic argument, then the best argument from the standpoint of the interests of Europeans or Europeans within America would probably be multipolarity.

    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.
     
    We have already had this argument before.

    The level of genetic replacement does not translate into number killed. If it did, you would have to think that the French were much more genocidal than the Spanish, but you are using both examples to impugn the English, without comparing one to the other.

    Or making any other sort of comparisons to test your idea:
    -Northern Mexico vs. Southern.
    -Northern South America vs. the Southern Cone.
    -The Yamnaya in Northern Europe vs. Southern Europe.
    -Peru vs. the Carib

    It is frankly ridiculous to make any sort of comparison between most of the US and Latin America and claim that the English killed more than the Spanish.

    There were no Indian cities in the US. The largest Indian army ever fielded there was probably about 3,000 (or maybe 5,000, if you want to be very gullible). Meanwhile, there were large empires in Latin America, with large cities and monumental architecture, and armies of at least tens of thousands, but possibly hundreds of thousands. And the American SW had the only thing resembling settled agriculture with permanent villages and irrigation.

    You should limit your argument to the less crazy one. France vs. England.

    How much Taino DNA is in Haiti? Maybe, there is a trace somewhere, but the answer is about zilch.

    The Taino population was very low to start with, then there was very high migration. At the time of the revolution, the majority of slaves had been born in Africa. Then there was the disease. Or you could impugn the French and imply they killed 30 million Taino, who were living there previously. (About the current pop.)

    Let's consider Canada. Quebec is much closer to America, or rather both were pretty Euro once. I have been to Quebec. Frankly, I did not see any Amerinds there. Of course, I will admit that there are more native genes than in the Thirteen Colonies, in the abstract, though the overall percentage still is pretty low compared to Latin America.

    This has a variety of explanations, which are quite easy. The East coast of America is filled with wonderful harbors, generally ice free. It is easy to access, and contains many navigable rivers and has superior climate and agricultural land to Quebec.

    Amusingly enough, today, many migrants to Canada only use it as a stepping stone to get to the US. But put that aside.

    So you have this problem of access. Easy access means easy flow of migrants. Large, frequent groups carrying disease. Easier military action to pacify native groups, as well as better access to women.

    Harder access means smaller, less frequent groups, which carry less disease. The Vikings did not cause some great epidemic because they came in smaller numbers. Both disease and women would have had a harder time travelling with fur trappers, who spent most of their time isolated in wilderness.

    The French had to be more conciliatory to native groups because they had harder access (the English were pretty conciliatory across the Appalachians, but the mountains move closer to the seaboard the further North you go.). Because their economic model was reliant on trade with them, which was fragile, because it was done by small bands and individuals and required peace The French also had to be conciliatory because there were so many English and they needed allies. And because the campaign season is shorter.

    Finally, the English conquered New France in 1760. This virtually turned off immigration into Quebec, leading to a much lower level of replacement. With the expansion happening on a local level only. The Quebecois are remarkably inbred, compared to French or Americans in general.


    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.
     
    On the level of state policy, it is largely or mostly true. Though not entirely, Russia is accepting of Boers. And has run satirical commercials against woke. On the personal level, it is easy to see that many Chinese admire European culture, and there is at least some limited hope in that. Though, naturally, I think Europeans will need to solve their own problems.

    But the point is that it would probably be easier if they didn't have to go against the sole global hegemon.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

     

    Why should Russia ally with Europeans or European-Americans when those are the two large groups in the world (Jews are much smaller) that are the most hostile towards Russia, a cynic might ask*? And when Russia has likely envied them for a very long time?

    *Unless of course one sees no good future where Russia is currently headed and thus prefers GAE vassalage to whatever Russia's actual future is going to be. This is currently Anatoly Karlin's position once he saw that Russian nationalism is a loser ideology.

    BTW, this white Canadian family actually did move to Russia in order to escape "LGBTQ+ ideology" and didn't quite get what they bargained for:

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/conservative-family-disappointed-moving-russia-001517915.html

    Canada is probably better off without them, to be honest. Russia is currently becoming a Based conservative boomer paradise lol.

    Replies: @LT1488

  668. @LatW
    @songbird


    But they certainly don’t seem intelligent.
     
    They looked too small and too "mechanical" to be intelligent. They seemed a bit hyperactive as well, as they were crawling all over her and moving around a lot.

    Not like this bald raccoon.
     
    Aw, poor thing, it's shivering. I wish I could knit her a little vest. :)

    It looks completely different than ones with fur. Little weirdo. :) I wonder how long one with alopecia would survive in the wild.

    Replies: @songbird

    A collection of wombats is called a “wisdom.”. They have sometimes been observed using tree bark to block the entrance to their burrows or pushing rocks or sticks to help them dig.

    [MORE]

    Their brain-to-body ratio is higher than some low tier monkeys or ungulates. Their brains are more convoluted than many other marsups.

    They have this cartilage plate inside them kind of like armor. They can block their tunnels with their rear ends and even crush the skulls of small predators by pushing against them this way.

    Have heard they are somewhat resistant to being hit by a car.

    Some say that their waste being cube-shaped helps it stay in place to mark territory, though it seems an exaggeration to call it cubic.

    Aw, poor thing, it’s shivering. I wish I could knit her a little vest.

    Coons can be kind of viscious. Heard someone once say that they can peel the skin off a chicken pretty quick.

    I wonder how long one with alopecia would survive in the wild.

    Guess it probably depends on a lot of factors like the temp and what the cause of it is.

    Not really the same thing, but I saw a fox with mange early last spring. Had the idea that it had to make a kill every day to survive the (freezing) night, but maybe that was just my imagination.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    They have sometimes been observed using tree bark to block the entrance to their burrows or pushing rocks or sticks to help them dig.
     
    What diligent creatures! It turns out they can get pretty big, saw some photos where they had gotten pretty large and almost looked like a weird looking bear.

    Replies: @songbird

  669. @songbird
    @Matra

    Have heard it implied that some pederasty scandal is about to drop re: Varadkar. But prob wishful thinking on someone's part.

    @YetAnotherAnon
    There is always Sadiq.

    Replies: @Matra

    I’d be surprised if there is a paedo scandal. He was credibly accused of violating his own electoral laws campaigning during the referendum and his lame St. Patrick was a single, male, undocumented migrant (yes, seriously!) statement last week was embarrassing even to the pro-immigration crowd so maybe he’s just a dead weight for the ruling class at this point. Maybe he’ll have a bright future with the EU in Brussels or with the WEF, which he’d probably prefer to being Irish PM anyway.

    On Ukraine…Today I noticed a lot of hostility towards Polish and other EU farmers from the pro-Ukraine activists on social media. The Polish ones blocking imports from Ukraine are being denounced as Russian puppets working for Putler. Who knew he had this much power?

    Only Macron will fight them!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJIcfQiWYAAR_LE?format=jpg&name=medium

  670. Concerns how the Collective West led the Kiev regime to defeat –

    • Thanks: LondonBob
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    Concerns how the Collective West led the Kiev regime to defeat
     
    As a matter of fact, the RF fights in Ukraine not just with Kiev puppets, but with the puppeteers, i.e., with collective West. That explains Western hysterics.
  671. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    but its now been rolled back into its greatest manifestation
     
    Am not sure Koreans or Vietnamese would agree. Millions of them died. But this has certainly been a disaster for Euros, and Slavs in particular. Perhaps, even a greater diaster than any in East Asia, if you consider TFR. And the current state of the West.

    and announced that the US was the beacon of freedom and democracy that should support the aspirations of other less fortunate countries that also want to be a part of a family of democratic countries around the globe:
     
    perhaps, they should first support Britain and Ireland who are currently ruled by four PoCs and under a state of extreme invasion, which has no democratic support.

    Or perhaps, Germany, where the police pulled a 14 y.o. girl out of classroom after she made a TikTok video endorsing AfD.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. Hack

    But this has certainly been a disaster for Euros, and Slavs in particular.

    I don’t read much about Poles, Slovaks, Czechs, Bulgarians or even either Serbs complaining about their disastrous conditions due to moving over to the Western block of democracies? Ukrainians are thrilled at the prospect of joining this club, if only to have access to much needed weaponry.

    perhaps, they should first support Britain and Ireland who are currently ruled by four PoCs and under a state of extreme invasion, which has no democratic support.

    If you mean unimpeded immigration, all I can say is that the locals already living in these areas for generations, need to make their voices heard louder and vote for candidates that represent their views.

    Or perhaps, Germany, where the police pulled a 14 y.o. girl out of classroom after she made a TikTok video endorsing AfD.

    This is of course a travesty of justice, and is garnering concern around the world, but I don’t in any way see this as a result of Reagan’s promotion of democracy and human rights that he promoted over 40 years ago.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    vote for candidates that represent their views.
     
    In both Ireland and the UK, there are essentially none, among the established parties. The Tories of course ran on that platform, but were lying about it.

    I agree with Eric Kaufmann that normative political change will happen too slowly to solve the crisis. That by its nature it is too slow, and the crisis is advancing too quickly, for democracy to be a solution, even after a very short interval of years. As the numbers will change that radically.

    Reagan’s promotion of democracy and human rights that he promoted over 40 years ago.
     
    40 years ago, it would have been close to impossible to envision the world of today, and in particular the West or America of today.

    Still, I don't think the politicians of that time, even Reagan were blameless. IMO, freedom is too much of foreign policy dialectic and not substantial enough at home to be taken seriously as a foreign policy dialectic. Even a very powerful man like Musk must control his speech and apologize.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Mr. Hack

    , @Coconuts
    @Mr. Hack


    If you mean unimpeded immigration, all I can say is that the locals already living in these areas for generations, need to make their voices heard louder and vote for candidates that represent their views.
     
    Songbird has mentioned this but a problem with the system in the UK is that the party that campaigned to lower immigration raised it to unprecedented levels once it got into office. The opposition party, which is formally pro-migration, would likely never have attempted a radical policy change like this.

    When the only plausible candidates for government both de facto agree on a policy and don't want to discuss the actions they are going to take in power, there isn't a lot that can be done about it.

    There are also formal and informal restrictions on freedom of expression around this issue. The new expansive hate crime law that has just been implemented in Scotland, and the similar hate crime law that is being debated in Ireland would be examples.

    It's relatively clear now that unless you have elite support for a policy (among the intellectual, economic, political and administrative elites), there is low chance of any action being taken about it. There will be no one to co-ordinate and lead any political campaign, opponents who hold more direct power can suppress it before it builds any momentum. And at the moment these elites are still mostly favourable to mass migration and the cultural change it brings.

    Looking at the current immigration levels in comparison with demographic data about the birthrate of the white British and the ethnic minorities already here, Songbird is right that major change is an inevitability. At the same time the plausibility of there having been a multi-generational democratic mandate for bringing this about seems low.

  672. @AP
    @songbird


    The founding stock were very proud of their colonial ancestors and rootedness requires pride.
     
    Maybe. The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards and the French (I don't include accidental plagues as killings). The Spaniards were building universities, cathedrals, teaching natives how to write and make beautiful baroque music. There were some efforts to teach the "heathens" but for the most part they were just killed or removed. This isn't really denied, They themselves were not ashamed of having done so, and their descendants and heirs are probably foremost among all peoples in condemning such actions. Indeed doing so is a very authentic expression of their Puritan ways. Condemning one's sins before the community and aggressive moralizing were hallmarks of traditional Puritan culture.

    But you have implied they were descended from special killers and thieves and have nothing to be proud of.
     
    Mixture of true and false. They were indeed "special killers" but I never claimed they have nothing to be proud of - on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    Like any American president during the Cold War?

    granted, they were more imperialist, but which of these sent arms so close to Moscow? I thought Ike baulked at sending arms to Hungary.
     

    Speaking of imperialist, there were the adventures in Cuba and the Philippines ~10 years ago. And the horrible Woodrow Wilson. American troops were in Libya in the early 19th century, in response to the kidnapping of US sailors very far from American waters.

    Hungary occurred during the Suez crisis IIRC and it was over too quickly for anyone to be helped. Plus, they were recent Nazi allies. Czechoslovaks didn't really fight, so not much to do.

    I suspect that if Czechoslovakia had decided to fight and had managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance. USA helped the Afghans, on the Soviet southern border.


    As to the last the weightier strategic competitor seems to be China, and it would not seem wise to throw such a large and resource rich country into their arms as Russia is.
     
    Russia was lost to the West after the bombing of Serbia. The only question is how strong we will allow China's ally to be. It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces. Betraying Ukraine would not convince Russia to join with the USA, on the contrary it would just be further proof that the USA is a bad ally, unlike China.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    managed to keep the Soviets at bay for at least a few months, Czechoslovakia would have received a lot of Western military assistance.

    In 1968 Czechoslovaks paid close attention to a clear message from the US president Johnson to Brezhnev “Czechoslovakia is your sphere of influence and we will not interfere”. USA closed the border to 70000 political refugees. They mostly went to Canada and Australia, and some to Western Europe. Apparently it was the most skilled and successful immigration.

  673. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    1. Peterson and Tate are both in the same business, albeit slightly different target markets. They sell internet media.

    2. Since Peterson is a star, he does not need PUA techniques to fulfill his awesome sex drive. When you are a star the women will let you just grab them by the pussy. His style makeover was a result of hiring a new Silicon Valley SEO consultant.

    This is a big business. See here: https://detailed.com/google-control/


    How 16 Companies are Dominating the World’s Google Search Results (2024 Edition)
    Written by Glen Allsopp
     
    Peterson wants more twitter followers. He already has all the sex he can handle.

    3. The similarities of the Tate and Peterson tales are not as interesting as the differences. Have you read Maps of Meaning? It is not an easy read. Not because all the Jung and Nietzsche citations require sophisticated background. It is not easy because of the random and erroneous logic leaps. I would write a review if it wasn't twenty years old. Perhaps it will suffice to say that Jordan Peterson considers the 5 Factor Personality Model to be a scientific fact whereas it is no such thing. The 5 Factor model came from CIA sponsored university research in order to reduce large populations of diverse people to the smallest number of necessary description variables for purpose of influence and control. It is wrong. Its motivations are sinister. Its applications waste resources. Jordan Peterson is a tool of ignorant people. Needless to add when Peterson was doing academic research he got his grants from the same crew.

    4. Tate thought he had the complete list of bribery requirements covered. Maybe he just missed one or two and he'll escape slightly roughed up and wiser. Or maybe he mis-under-estimated the depth and width of Romanian corruption by a huge amount and he is going to be eaten up and finished off. We will get some more episodes of the show until we get bored and go elsewhere. I see him as a cultural figure similar to Bill Clinton. Before Clinton banging your intern was a disgraceful act. After Clinton banging interns is just another item on the carousel of life, albeit regrettable. Before Tate beating your woman was a disgraceful act. So thanks to Clinton and Tate. I guess.

    Innovation. Disgraceful to regrettable. What will they think of next?

    Replies: @LatW

    Peterson and Tate are both in the same business, albeit slightlydifferent target markets. They sell internet media.

    Of course, it’s a niche they are filling, and I agree, slightly different target audiences. Peterson is a somewhat serious intellectual, unlike the other one.

    Of course, I’m aware it’s largely about money and viewership, but content matters, too. This is not “neutral” content. We don’t go through all the pains of creating and raising our children just to give them away to destructive forces. Either Tate or trannies.

    Peterson wants more twitter followers. He already has all the sex he can handle.

    I was just joking. If it helps garner more attention, I get it, although it’s a bit too bold. Afaik, he’s been married for a long time and has defended monogamy.

    And, yes, it’s annoying how it always ends up just being a few companies that control everything (in various industries).

    Have you read Maps of Meaning?

    No, I’m not much of his follower. But I’ve read Jung’s Wotan several times. Is this some kind of an interdisciplinary view of it?

    The 5 Factor model came from CIA sponsored university research in order to reduce large populations of diverse people to the smallest number of necessary description variables for purpose of influence and control.

    Was that the only reason it was created? So what are you saying, that Peterson is pushing this kind of stuff?

    Btw, I finally got BAP’s book (took a little peak at it, seems quite good, quite academic). So will probably read some this weekend.

    Tate thought he had the complete list of bribery requirements covered.

    It’s a misconception that all of the EE is corrupt or that it is completely corrupt and that people and governments there have no capacity or self-respect. Or that you can do anything just because you’re American. It’s not the 90s anymore and Romania has been in the EU for 20 years. I know you probably don’t consider this as a factor since corruption can work anywhere, including in the West. And – pimping has been illegal there for a long time now. They cracked down on all that stuff 15 years ago.

    He must indeed be rich if he was able to afford Chris Brown’s lawyer.

    I see him as a cultural figure similar to Bill Clinton. Before Clinton banging your intern was a disgraceful act. Before Tate beating your woman was a disgraceful act.

    Actually, it still is for some. But, that’s true, they’re both just damaging their own society. Although Tate doesn’t even consider the West his society, since he has adopted Islam. But he should not spread his degeneracy to EE. I’m not a believer in glocalization in this case.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW



    The 5 Factor model came from CIA sponsored university research in order to reduce large populations of diverse people to the smallest number of necessary description variables for purpose of influence and control.
     
    Was that the only reason it was created? So what are you saying, that Peterson is pushing this kind of stuff?
     
    > Was it the only reason it was created?

    Yes. It was a set of large projects for years. The best introduction is the three Mind War books by Michael Aquino. He leaves a bunch out, but what he says is fact is reliable.

    > So what are you saying, that Peterson is pushing this kind of stuff?

    Not exactly. The 5 Factor model is fundamental to Jordan's cohort. If the model has flaws (it has large ones) those flaws propagate direct into Jordan Peterson's claims.

    A Clockwork Orange is fiction. The doctors/psychologists depicted in the movie and novel are caricatures of real people. Sidney Gottleib and Ewan Cameron were considered top research performers in their time. This Washington Post article covers a bit of it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1985/07/28/25-years-of-nightmares/cb836420-9c72-4d3c-ae60-70a8f13c4ceb/

    The research never ended. Google and Facebook and Twitter are doing it right now on you and I and all of the rest of the internet users. The article on how 16 companies dominate google search results is an example of this. Those three Aquino books are excellent.

    There is a review of Bronze Age Pervert's new book on the front page of unz dot com right now. It has only attracted 7 comments in 3 or 4 days of being up.
  674. @Mikel
    @sudden death


    And ofc, you have own freedom of speech to do it, just as I have my own to ridicule it;)
     
    Except that you're confusing concepts as freedom of speech and ineptly trying to ridicule what I never said. If I wanted to ask Unz to cancel this blog, he has a reader feedback thread where I could have done that. XYZ has made it very easy to provide reasons for it.

    However, I don't want to cancel anybody, not even the perv. I just said in this thread that Unz would do me a favor if he closed down this blog and (for the same reason) I said that that's what he should do in the previous thread. We are not discussing the topics he's interested in, much though he insists every time he opens a new thread, and it's not his fault that we cannot find a better place to debate.

    But thanks for recognizing my right to say what I think. Perhaps there is some hope with you guys. Still, if I had known what was coming, I think I would have voted to oppose the EU enlargement in 2004 rather than thinking as I did that it was great to see everybody in Europe embark on a peaceful project. Most of us in the West are just a bunch of irremediable cucks.

    Replies: @sudden death

    Self-confession might be first step to recovery, if even serial Western cuck in the past towards RF like Macron managed to get better, then there’s hope for all;)

  675. So he recently posted this (see below). See, if I posted that kind of a question re: Nazis, I’d be eaten alive, but he can say it because he’s mixed and a Muslim. And this stuff is fashionable now after the whole Pali thing.

    [MORE]

  676. @songbird
    @LatW

    A collection of wombats is called a "wisdom.". They have sometimes been observed using tree bark to block the entrance to their burrows or pushing rocks or sticks to help them dig.

    Their brain-to-body ratio is higher than some low tier monkeys or ungulates. Their brains are more convoluted than many other marsups.

    They have this cartilage plate inside them kind of like armor. They can block their tunnels with their rear ends and even crush the skulls of small predators by pushing against them this way.

    Have heard they are somewhat resistant to being hit by a car.

    Some say that their waste being cube-shaped helps it stay in place to mark territory, though it seems an exaggeration to call it cubic.


    Aw, poor thing, it’s shivering. I wish I could knit her a little vest.
     
    Coons can be kind of viscious. Heard someone once say that they can peel the skin off a chicken pretty quick.

    I wonder how long one with alopecia would survive in the wild.
     
    Guess it probably depends on a lot of factors like the temp and what the cause of it is.

    Not really the same thing, but I saw a fox with mange early last spring. Had the idea that it had to make a kill every day to survive the (freezing) night, but maybe that was just my imagination.

    Replies: @LatW

    They have sometimes been observed using tree bark to block the entrance to their burrows or pushing rocks or sticks to help them dig.

    What diligent creatures! It turns out they can get pretty big, saw some photos where they had gotten pretty large and almost looked like a weird looking bear.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    saw some photos where they had gotten pretty large and almost looked like a weird looking bear.
     
    You aren't the only one to think so. The scientific name for the biggest species is Vombatus ursinus

    Check out the marks @2:01
    https://youtu.be/9iI-Kwqic4w?si=wTytD2ExGEhdsQ7j

    Biggest one in captivity was 40 kg. Heard they are pretty strong too.

    I wonder if the gigantic one from the Pleistocene would run at you and then flip with the momentum carrying it to try to hit you with its butt. Probably not, I guess, (probably related to adaptions for burrowing) but it would be pretty funny if it had.

    Replies: @Sher Singh

  677. @Mikhail
    Concerns how the Collective West led the Kiev regime to defeat -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3blJYEH3Ovw

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Concerns how the Collective West led the Kiev regime to defeat

    As a matter of fact, the RF fights in Ukraine not just with Kiev puppets, but with the puppeteers, i.e., with collective West. That explains Western hysterics.

  678. …That explains Western hysterics.

    The hysteria is palpable: let’s just pretend we won is a sure sign of hysterics. They are distancing from Kiev – the budget issues are too convenient, there will not be an unlimited money.

    It was a very bad idea to try to get Nato into Ukraine and hope to bluff Russia. It is backfiring and Macron is scaring himself into the usual Frenchie emotional idiocy when they end up in a cul-de-sac. And JoJo says he will “go to Vegas” – if that is not escapism on steroids.

  679. @AP
    @songbird


    The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way

    The Navajo Reservation is larger than the state of Massachusetts. Pine Ridge is more than double the size of Rhode Island.
     
    I was talking about the original ones. How many Indians are left east of the Mississippi? Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.

    that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards

    did you read this somewhere? Or did it originate from your personal animosity, directed against Old Stock Americans?
     
    I know that from the Caribbean to the Americas, there is a strong Native genetic legacy which means that the natives were not wiped out. Even the Hispanos of New Mexico who speak an ancient Spanish dialect and consider themselves to be Spaniards, are 25% Native. What about New Englanders? (and before you clam that this is because woman-less Conquistadors just killed all the Native men and took Native concubines - paternal Native ancestry of Mexican Mestizos is around 30%).

    You seem to be eager to be offended on behalf of Puritans. But they, themselves, would not be offended by what I say. And their descendants certainly are not.

    Didn't you know that moralism and harsh self-criticism was a hallmark of Puritan culture? This is what the Old Stock Puritans did every Sunday at their religious meetinghouses, taken from Albion's Seed:

    https://i.imgur.com/JIKpVZz.png

    The culture changes its external form, but doesn't die.

    I never claimed they [Puritans] have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    That is the kind of back-handed complement that would brain a person, or break their neck. You appear to just be saying that they are a good place to invade.
     
    If someone praises your home would you interpret that to mean that they are just saying that your home is a good place for squatters to take over? I also like northern Italy and Austria very much. Do you interpret these words as saying that those are good places to invade?

    What a nonsensical way of interpreting someone's words.

    And at any rate an invasion would necessarily replace or eliminate that which was praised. That would be bad.

    As I said, the Anglos (especially the Puritans) built what is a very pleasant, prosperous, and highly-functioning place in the New World.

    It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces.

    If you want a cold, hard, strategic argument, then the best argument from the standpoint of the interests of Europeans or Europeans within America would probably be multipolarity.
     
    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.

    We have already had this argument before.

    [MORE]

    The level of genetic replacement does not translate into number killed. If it did, you would have to think that the French were much more genocidal than the Spanish, but you are using both examples to impugn the English, without comparing one to the other.

    Or making any other sort of comparisons to test your idea:
    -Northern Mexico vs. Southern.
    -Northern South America vs. the Southern Cone.
    -The Yamnaya in Northern Europe vs. Southern Europe.
    -Peru vs. the Carib

    It is frankly ridiculous to make any sort of comparison between most of the US and Latin America and claim that the English killed more than the Spanish.

    There were no Indian cities in the US. The largest Indian army ever fielded there was probably about 3,000 (or maybe 5,000, if you want to be very gullible). Meanwhile, there were large empires in Latin America, with large cities and monumental architecture, and armies of at least tens of thousands, but possibly hundreds of thousands. And the American SW had the only thing resembling settled agriculture with permanent villages and irrigation.

    You should limit your argument to the less crazy one. France vs. England.

    How much Taino DNA is in Haiti? Maybe, there is a trace somewhere, but the answer is about zilch.

    The Taino population was very low to start with, then there was very high migration. At the time of the revolution, the majority of slaves had been born in Africa. Then there was the disease. Or you could impugn the French and imply they killed 30 million Taino, who were living there previously. (About the current pop.)

    Let’s consider Canada. Quebec is much closer to America, or rather both were pretty Euro once. I have been to Quebec. Frankly, I did not see any Amerinds there. Of course, I will admit that there are more native genes than in the Thirteen Colonies, in the abstract, though the overall percentage still is pretty low compared to Latin America.

    This has a variety of explanations, which are quite easy. The East coast of America is filled with wonderful harbors, generally ice free. It is easy to access, and contains many navigable rivers and has superior climate and agricultural land to Quebec.

    Amusingly enough, today, many migrants to Canada only use it as a stepping stone to get to the US. But put that aside.

    So you have this problem of access. Easy access means easy flow of migrants. Large, frequent groups carrying disease. Easier military action to pacify native groups, as well as better access to women.

    Harder access means smaller, less frequent groups, which carry less disease. The Vikings did not cause some great epidemic because they came in smaller numbers. Both disease and women would have had a harder time travelling with fur trappers, who spent most of their time isolated in wilderness.

    The French had to be more conciliatory to native groups because they had harder access (the English were pretty conciliatory across the Appalachians, but the mountains move closer to the seaboard the further North you go.). Because their economic model was reliant on trade with them, which was fragile, because it was done by small bands and individuals and required peace The French also had to be conciliatory because there were so many English and they needed allies. And because the campaign season is shorter.

    Finally, the English conquered New France in 1760. This virtually turned off immigration into Quebec, leading to a much lower level of replacement. With the expansion happening on a local level only. The Quebecois are remarkably inbred, compared to French or Americans in general.

    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    On the level of state policy, it is largely or mostly true. Though not entirely, Russia is accepting of Boers. And has run satirical commercials against woke. On the personal level, it is easy to see that many Chinese admire European culture, and there is at least some limited hope in that. Though, naturally, I think Europeans will need to solve their own problems.

    But the point is that it would probably be easier if they didn’t have to go against the sole global hegemon.

    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird


    There were no Indian cities in the US. The largest Indian army ever fielded there was probably about 3,000 (or maybe 5,000, if you want to be very gullible). Meanwhile, there were large empires in Latin America, with large cities and monumental architecture, and armies of at least tens of thousands, but possibly hundreds of thousands. And the American SW had the only thing resembling settled agriculture with permanent villages and irrigation.
     
    David Reich showed that the pre-Colombian Native population in the Caribbean was tiny, yet it has left behind millions of descendants.

    Let’s consider Canada. Quebec is much closer to America, or rather both were pretty Euro once. I have been to Quebec. Frankly, I did not see any Amerinds there. Of course, I will admit that there are more native genes than in the Thirteen Colonies, in the abstract, though the overall percentage still is pretty low compared to Latin America.

     

    It’s very small - average Québécois is 1% Native. About 60% of Québécois have a Native ancestor.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3680396/

    Of course, Quebec also has over 125,000 Natives (nearly three times the number in New England). This doesn’t include Inuit in the Far North. And 69,000 Metis.

    Before contact, there were 70,000-100,000 Natives in New England:

    https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/new-england-native-american-groups/#:~:text=Among%20them%20were%20the%20Abenaki,puh%2DNOH%2Duhg).

    Compared to 200,000 in all of Canada:

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Canada/Indigenous-peoples

    :::::::::

    IIRC in our last discussion it was found that here were fewer massacres of Natives by the French compared to the English/Americans. I think you were correct just now about reasons for this.

    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    On the level of state policy, it is largely or mostly true. Though not entirely, Russia is accepting of Boers. And has run satirical commercials against woke

     

    Russia will sort of take Boers to itself, but it is anti-European in terms of foreign policy. It wants whatever is more militant and chaotic for that

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    And has run satirical commercials against woke.
     
    Russia would have been much better off fighting against Woke by aggressively funding hereditarian research (especially in regards to the genetic causes of average racial and ethnic differences on important traits, such as IQ/g and crime) rather than spending all of that money in a useless war in Ukraine. A simple smart academic like Nathan Cofnas could have probably told Russia that.

    A strong Russia won't prevent right-wing Americans from being cancelled any more than a strong Soviet Union prevented McCarthyism in the United States (it didn't).

    On the personal level, it is easy to see that many Chinese admire European culture, and there is at least some limited hope in that. Though, naturally, I think Europeans will need to solve their own problems.
     
    Good luck getting the Chinese to ditch their one-party system. Seriously.

    But the point is that it would probably be easier if they didn’t have to go against the sole global hegemon.

     

    What specifically are Russia and China going to offer to right-wing Americans and Westerners other than a place in exile? Right-wing Americans are already joining VKontakte, after all:

    https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/vkcom-linking-american-white-supremacists-international-counterparts
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/american-alt-right-leaves-facebook-for-russian-site-vkontakte
    https://www.voanews.com/a/american-white-nationalists-barred-by-facebook-find-friendly-haven-on-russia-s-vk-website-/4871044.html
    https://www.axios.com/2023/05/09/american-extremists-russian-sites-shootings

    Honestly, Russia should just flat-out invite the most passionate and dullest several dozen million US right-wingers to move over there. We could benefit from keeping the US right-wing cognitive elite to ourselves. But the right-wing proles, well, we're less passionate about those. Russia could also accept our ghetto underclasses while it's at it if it wants to signal against "systemic Western racism" to the Third World lol. Seriously.
    , @AP
    @songbird

    Some guy on twitter just happened to compare the French, Spanish and English approaches towards Natives. Matches my own conclusions:



    https://twitter.com/vandiemen_/status/1770656263799812526?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @songbird

  680. @A123
    @songbird

    Disney dropped a trailer for The Acolyte. It has been ratioed everywhere.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j723FrcLNac

    Everyone knows this is going to crater on launch.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    Pretty sad when they can’t even package a decent trailer that lasts less than two minutes.

  681. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    But this has certainly been a disaster for Euros, and Slavs in particular.
     
    I don't read much about Poles, Slovaks, Czechs, Bulgarians or even either Serbs complaining about their disastrous conditions due to moving over to the Western block of democracies? Ukrainians are thrilled at the prospect of joining this club, if only to have access to much needed weaponry.

    perhaps, they should first support Britain and Ireland who are currently ruled by four PoCs and under a state of extreme invasion, which has no democratic support.
     
    If you mean unimpeded immigration, all I can say is that the locals already living in these areas for generations, need to make their voices heard louder and vote for candidates that represent their views.

    Or perhaps, Germany, where the police pulled a 14 y.o. girl out of classroom after she made a TikTok video endorsing AfD.
     
    This is of course a travesty of justice, and is garnering concern around the world, but I don't in any way see this as a result of Reagan's promotion of democracy and human rights that he promoted over 40 years ago.

    Replies: @songbird, @Coconuts

    vote for candidates that represent their views.

    In both Ireland and the UK, there are essentially none, among the established parties. The Tories of course ran on that platform, but were lying about it.

    I agree with Eric Kaufmann that normative political change will happen too slowly to solve the crisis. That by its nature it is too slow, and the crisis is advancing too quickly, for democracy to be a solution, even after a very short interval of years. As the numbers will change that radically.

    Reagan’s promotion of democracy and human rights that he promoted over 40 years ago.

    40 years ago, it would have been close to impossible to envision the world of today, and in particular the West or America of today.

    Still, I don’t think the politicians of that time, even Reagan were blameless. IMO, freedom is too much of foreign policy dialectic and not substantial enough at home to be taken seriously as a foreign policy dialectic. Even a very powerful man like Musk must control his speech and apologize.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @songbird

    The government of the Republic of Ireland are probably less leftwing, compared to ROI's population. Irish people can be the most leftwing believing population in the world in some ways. It could be economically lucky they have "cynical representatives of international capitalism", instead of someone like Lula.


    UK, there

     

    UK's population has a higher proportion of people with rightwing political views compared to ROI.

    To learn the history of the British islands is complicated and above my knowledge, but to write in the idiots' way, compared to the Celtic nationalities, populations created more by later Aryan invaders had a greater proportion of land owning during the historical stage of feudalism, then greater proportion of ownership of the means of production during the historical stage of bourgeois capitalism.

    Today, the areas of the islands with higher proportions of descendants of the Celtic populations correlate maybe with the politics more related to the culture typical of the historically disenfranchised population.

    You could see even a negative correlation in the election map for the 2015 Conservative voting with the map of the proportion of people with red hair which could be correlating with the higher proportion of the pre-Saxon, Viking and Norman ancestry.

    https://i.imgur.com/lIuvSrk.jpeg

    https://i.imgur.com/lKJohmR.jpeg

    Replies: @Coconuts, @songbird

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    IMO, freedom is too much of foreign policy dialectic and not substantial enough at home to be taken seriously as a foreign policy dialectic.
     
    The interesting, if not brilliant political scientist Francis Fukuyama, may differ with you about this. He's made quite a cottage industry promoting the idea that all countries in the world are slowly but surely creeping towards models of governance (some backsliding away from this model like Turkey, Thailand and Nicaragua) similar to the Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government. Although his original theories that first saw the day of light in 1989 - 92 have been tweaked and modified somewhat from their inception, he still insists that these ideas are valid, because this form of governance is still the best one because it has "proven to be a fundamentally better system (ethically, politically, economically) than any of the alternatives". It's true however that overall over the last 20 years there has been more "backsliding" and totalitarian forms of government have been increasing to the detriment of democratic ones. But even still Fukuyama insists that liberal democracies are here to stay and will in the end eclipse authoritarian models:

    Despite recent authoritarian advances, liberal democracy remains the strongest, most broadly appealing idea out there. Most autocrats, including Putin and Chávez, still feel that they have to conform to the outward rituals of democracy even as they gut its substance. Even China's Hu Jintao felt compelled to talk about democracy in the run-up to Beijing's Olympic Games."[14]
     
    Finally, he leaves a stark warning that bears repetition and serious contemplation:

    His "ultimate nightmare", he said in March 2022, is a world in which China supports Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Russia supports a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. If that were to happen, and be successful, Fukuyama said, "then you would really be living in a world that was being dominated by these non-democratic powers. If the United States and the rest of the West couldn't stop that from happening, then that really is the end of the end of history."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man

    Replies: @songbird

  682. Ballot stuffing caught on video in Russia:

    Must have been so much easier being a mass murdering dictator in the Stalin days before widespread cameras and internet access.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Or an anonymous commenter.

  683. @LatW
    @songbird


    They have sometimes been observed using tree bark to block the entrance to their burrows or pushing rocks or sticks to help them dig.
     
    What diligent creatures! It turns out they can get pretty big, saw some photos where they had gotten pretty large and almost looked like a weird looking bear.

    Replies: @songbird

    saw some photos where they had gotten pretty large and almost looked like a weird looking bear.

    You aren’t the only one to think so. The scientific name for the biggest species is Vombatus ursinus

    Check out the marks @2:01

    [MORE]

    Biggest one in captivity was 40 kg. Heard they are pretty strong too.

    I wonder if the gigantic one from the Pleistocene would run at you and then flip with the momentum carrying it to try to hit you with its butt. Probably not, I guess, (probably related to adaptions for burrowing) but it would be pretty funny if it had.

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @songbird


    https://twitter.com/JelqingGyani/status/1770281081209504202?s=20
    https://twitter.com/JelqingGyani/status/1770285560042598609?s=20

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we0Wk-Jd9Iw

    This Quebec neo-nazi friend mentioned they built McDonalds where the rallies where held.
    Similar to how the Vatican is built where the Legions gathered.

    ਅਕਾਲ

  684. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Peterson and Tate are both in the same business, albeit slightlydifferent target markets. They sell internet media.
     
    Of course, it's a niche they are filling, and I agree, slightly different target audiences. Peterson is a somewhat serious intellectual, unlike the other one.

    Of course, I'm aware it's largely about money and viewership, but content matters, too. This is not "neutral" content. We don't go through all the pains of creating and raising our children just to give them away to destructive forces. Either Tate or trannies.


    Peterson wants more twitter followers. He already has all the sex he can handle.
     
    I was just joking. If it helps garner more attention, I get it, although it's a bit too bold. Afaik, he's been married for a long time and has defended monogamy.

    And, yes, it's annoying how it always ends up just being a few companies that control everything (in various industries).


    Have you read Maps of Meaning?
     
    No, I'm not much of his follower. But I've read Jung's Wotan several times. Is this some kind of an interdisciplinary view of it?

    The 5 Factor model came from CIA sponsored university research in order to reduce large populations of diverse people to the smallest number of necessary description variables for purpose of influence and control.
     
    Was that the only reason it was created? So what are you saying, that Peterson is pushing this kind of stuff?

    Btw, I finally got BAP's book (took a little peak at it, seems quite good, quite academic). So will probably read some this weekend.


    Tate thought he had the complete list of bribery requirements covered.
     
    It's a misconception that all of the EE is corrupt or that it is completely corrupt and that people and governments there have no capacity or self-respect. Or that you can do anything just because you're American. It's not the 90s anymore and Romania has been in the EU for 20 years. I know you probably don't consider this as a factor since corruption can work anywhere, including in the West. And - pimping has been illegal there for a long time now. They cracked down on all that stuff 15 years ago.

    He must indeed be rich if he was able to afford Chris Brown's lawyer.


    I see him as a cultural figure similar to Bill Clinton. Before Clinton banging your intern was a disgraceful act. Before Tate beating your woman was a disgraceful act.
     
    Actually, it still is for some. But, that's true, they're both just damaging their own society. Although Tate doesn't even consider the West his society, since he has adopted Islam. But he should not spread his degeneracy to EE. I'm not a believer in glocalization in this case.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The 5 Factor model came from CIA sponsored university research in order to reduce large populations of diverse people to the smallest number of necessary description variables for purpose of influence and control.

    Was that the only reason it was created? So what are you saying, that Peterson is pushing this kind of stuff?

    > Was it the only reason it was created?

    Yes. It was a set of large projects for years. The best introduction is the three Mind War books by Michael Aquino. He leaves a bunch out, but what he says is fact is reliable.

    > So what are you saying, that Peterson is pushing this kind of stuff?

    Not exactly. The 5 Factor model is fundamental to Jordan’s cohort. If the model has flaws (it has large ones) those flaws propagate direct into Jordan Peterson’s claims.

    A Clockwork Orange is fiction. The doctors/psychologists depicted in the movie and novel are caricatures of real people. Sidney Gottleib and Ewan Cameron were considered top research performers in their time. This Washington Post article covers a bit of it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1985/07/28/25-years-of-nightmares/cb836420-9c72-4d3c-ae60-70a8f13c4ceb/

    The research never ended. Google and Facebook and Twitter are doing it right now on you and I and all of the rest of the internet users. The article on how 16 companies dominate google search results is an example of this. Those three Aquino books are excellent.

    There is a review of Bronze Age Pervert’s new book on the front page of unz dot com right now. It has only attracted 7 comments in 3 or 4 days of being up.

  685. AP says:
    @songbird
    @AP


    Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.
     
    We have already had this argument before.

    The level of genetic replacement does not translate into number killed. If it did, you would have to think that the French were much more genocidal than the Spanish, but you are using both examples to impugn the English, without comparing one to the other.

    Or making any other sort of comparisons to test your idea:
    -Northern Mexico vs. Southern.
    -Northern South America vs. the Southern Cone.
    -The Yamnaya in Northern Europe vs. Southern Europe.
    -Peru vs. the Carib

    It is frankly ridiculous to make any sort of comparison between most of the US and Latin America and claim that the English killed more than the Spanish.

    There were no Indian cities in the US. The largest Indian army ever fielded there was probably about 3,000 (or maybe 5,000, if you want to be very gullible). Meanwhile, there were large empires in Latin America, with large cities and monumental architecture, and armies of at least tens of thousands, but possibly hundreds of thousands. And the American SW had the only thing resembling settled agriculture with permanent villages and irrigation.

    You should limit your argument to the less crazy one. France vs. England.

    How much Taino DNA is in Haiti? Maybe, there is a trace somewhere, but the answer is about zilch.

    The Taino population was very low to start with, then there was very high migration. At the time of the revolution, the majority of slaves had been born in Africa. Then there was the disease. Or you could impugn the French and imply they killed 30 million Taino, who were living there previously. (About the current pop.)

    Let's consider Canada. Quebec is much closer to America, or rather both were pretty Euro once. I have been to Quebec. Frankly, I did not see any Amerinds there. Of course, I will admit that there are more native genes than in the Thirteen Colonies, in the abstract, though the overall percentage still is pretty low compared to Latin America.

    This has a variety of explanations, which are quite easy. The East coast of America is filled with wonderful harbors, generally ice free. It is easy to access, and contains many navigable rivers and has superior climate and agricultural land to Quebec.

    Amusingly enough, today, many migrants to Canada only use it as a stepping stone to get to the US. But put that aside.

    So you have this problem of access. Easy access means easy flow of migrants. Large, frequent groups carrying disease. Easier military action to pacify native groups, as well as better access to women.

    Harder access means smaller, less frequent groups, which carry less disease. The Vikings did not cause some great epidemic because they came in smaller numbers. Both disease and women would have had a harder time travelling with fur trappers, who spent most of their time isolated in wilderness.

    The French had to be more conciliatory to native groups because they had harder access (the English were pretty conciliatory across the Appalachians, but the mountains move closer to the seaboard the further North you go.). Because their economic model was reliant on trade with them, which was fragile, because it was done by small bands and individuals and required peace The French also had to be conciliatory because there were so many English and they needed allies. And because the campaign season is shorter.

    Finally, the English conquered New France in 1760. This virtually turned off immigration into Quebec, leading to a much lower level of replacement. With the expansion happening on a local level only. The Quebecois are remarkably inbred, compared to French or Americans in general.


    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.
     
    On the level of state policy, it is largely or mostly true. Though not entirely, Russia is accepting of Boers. And has run satirical commercials against woke. On the personal level, it is easy to see that many Chinese admire European culture, and there is at least some limited hope in that. Though, naturally, I think Europeans will need to solve their own problems.

    But the point is that it would probably be easier if they didn't have to go against the sole global hegemon.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    There were no Indian cities in the US. The largest Indian army ever fielded there was probably about 3,000 (or maybe 5,000, if you want to be very gullible). Meanwhile, there were large empires in Latin America, with large cities and monumental architecture, and armies of at least tens of thousands, but possibly hundreds of thousands. And the American SW had the only thing resembling settled agriculture with permanent villages and irrigation.

    David Reich showed that the pre-Colombian Native population in the Caribbean was tiny, yet it has left behind millions of descendants.

    Let’s consider Canada. Quebec is much closer to America, or rather both were pretty Euro once. I have been to Quebec. Frankly, I did not see any Amerinds there. Of course, I will admit that there are more native genes than in the Thirteen Colonies, in the abstract, though the overall percentage still is pretty low compared to Latin America.

    It’s very small – average Québécois is 1% Native. About 60% of Québécois have a Native ancestor.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3680396/

    Of course, Quebec also has over 125,000 Natives (nearly three times the number in New England). This doesn’t include Inuit in the Far North. And 69,000 Metis.

    Before contact, there were 70,000-100,000 Natives in New England:

    https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/new-england-native-american-groups/#:~:text=Among%20them%20were%20the%20Abenaki,puh%2DNOH%2Duhg).

    Compared to 200,000 in all of Canada:

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Canada/Indigenous-peoples

    :::::::::

    IIRC in our last discussion it was found that here were fewer massacres of Natives by the French compared to the English/Americans. I think you were correct just now about reasons for this.

    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    On the level of state policy, it is largely or mostly true. Though not entirely, Russia is accepting of Boers. And has run satirical commercials against woke

    Russia will sort of take Boers to itself, but it is anti-European in terms of foreign policy. It wants whatever is more militant and chaotic for that

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Russia will sort of take Boers to itself, but it is anti-European in terms of foreign policy. It wants whatever is more militant and chaotic for that

     

    Anatoly Karlin has argued that Russia as a right-wing civilizational space would have more potential than Intermarium as a right-wing civilizational space due to Russia being less internally fractured than Intermarium is (a successful Russian conquest of Ukraine would have presumably resulted in the emigration of many, if not most, Ukrainians who refuse to accept the Russian nationalist program). The problem that I have with this argument, though, is that it's not clear what exactly a separate Russian civilizational space actually offers for humanity. It has a very low Nature Index relative to the US, EU, China, and even pro-US East Asia and is also relatively technologically backward:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russias-technological-backwardness/

    Intermarium also suffers from these problems to some extent, along with it (as mentioned above) being more internally fractured than Russia itself is.

    It also doesn't help that the people who actually achieve stuff (the cognitive elites) in either Intermarium or Russia are less likely to be right-wing than the proles in those places are. How exactly could a right-wing civilizational space truly be effective when the people who accomplish the most in it are not right-wing themselves?

    If Western Europe will become Israeli-fied or India-fied, though, then I could see the EU becoming a pro-Western right-wing civilizational space. But it would still have issues with attracting elite human capital to the right-wing cause. European EHC is certainly often pro-European integration, but they often view European integration in a more inclusive sense that also includes some non-Europeans.
  686. @AP
    @songbird


    There were no Indian cities in the US. The largest Indian army ever fielded there was probably about 3,000 (or maybe 5,000, if you want to be very gullible). Meanwhile, there were large empires in Latin America, with large cities and monumental architecture, and armies of at least tens of thousands, but possibly hundreds of thousands. And the American SW had the only thing resembling settled agriculture with permanent villages and irrigation.
     
    David Reich showed that the pre-Colombian Native population in the Caribbean was tiny, yet it has left behind millions of descendants.

    Let’s consider Canada. Quebec is much closer to America, or rather both were pretty Euro once. I have been to Quebec. Frankly, I did not see any Amerinds there. Of course, I will admit that there are more native genes than in the Thirteen Colonies, in the abstract, though the overall percentage still is pretty low compared to Latin America.

     

    It’s very small - average Québécois is 1% Native. About 60% of Québécois have a Native ancestor.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3680396/

    Of course, Quebec also has over 125,000 Natives (nearly three times the number in New England). This doesn’t include Inuit in the Far North. And 69,000 Metis.

    Before contact, there were 70,000-100,000 Natives in New England:

    https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/new-england-native-american-groups/#:~:text=Among%20them%20were%20the%20Abenaki,puh%2DNOH%2Duhg).

    Compared to 200,000 in all of Canada:

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Canada/Indigenous-peoples

    :::::::::

    IIRC in our last discussion it was found that here were fewer massacres of Natives by the French compared to the English/Americans. I think you were correct just now about reasons for this.

    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    On the level of state policy, it is largely or mostly true. Though not entirely, Russia is accepting of Boers. And has run satirical commercials against woke

     

    Russia will sort of take Boers to itself, but it is anti-European in terms of foreign policy. It wants whatever is more militant and chaotic for that

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Russia will sort of take Boers to itself, but it is anti-European in terms of foreign policy. It wants whatever is more militant and chaotic for that

    Anatoly Karlin has argued that Russia as a right-wing civilizational space would have more potential than Intermarium as a right-wing civilizational space due to Russia being less internally fractured than Intermarium is (a successful Russian conquest of Ukraine would have presumably resulted in the emigration of many, if not most, Ukrainians who refuse to accept the Russian nationalist program). The problem that I have with this argument, though, is that it’s not clear what exactly a separate Russian civilizational space actually offers for humanity. It has a very low Nature Index relative to the US, EU, China, and even pro-US East Asia and is also relatively technologically backward:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/russias-technological-backwardness/

    Intermarium also suffers from these problems to some extent, along with it (as mentioned above) being more internally fractured than Russia itself is.

    It also doesn’t help that the people who actually achieve stuff (the cognitive elites) in either Intermarium or Russia are less likely to be right-wing than the proles in those places are. How exactly could a right-wing civilizational space truly be effective when the people who accomplish the most in it are not right-wing themselves?

    If Western Europe will become Israeli-fied or India-fied, though, then I could see the EU becoming a pro-Western right-wing civilizational space. But it would still have issues with attracting elite human capital to the right-wing cause. European EHC is certainly often pro-European integration, but they often view European integration in a more inclusive sense that also includes some non-Europeans.

  687. @AP
    @songbird


    The Anglos wiped out the natives in a thorough way

    The Navajo Reservation is larger than the state of Massachusetts. Pine Ridge is more than double the size of Rhode Island.
     
    I was talking about the original ones. How many Indians are left east of the Mississippi? Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.

    that far exceeded the killings of Spaniards

    did you read this somewhere? Or did it originate from your personal animosity, directed against Old Stock Americans?
     
    I know that from the Caribbean to the Americas, there is a strong Native genetic legacy which means that the natives were not wiped out. Even the Hispanos of New Mexico who speak an ancient Spanish dialect and consider themselves to be Spaniards, are 25% Native. What about New Englanders? (and before you clam that this is because woman-less Conquistadors just killed all the Native men and took Native concubines - paternal Native ancestry of Mexican Mestizos is around 30%).

    You seem to be eager to be offended on behalf of Puritans. But they, themselves, would not be offended by what I say. And their descendants certainly are not.

    Didn't you know that moralism and harsh self-criticism was a hallmark of Puritan culture? This is what the Old Stock Puritans did every Sunday at their religious meetinghouses, taken from Albion's Seed:

    https://i.imgur.com/JIKpVZz.png

    The culture changes its external form, but doesn't die.

    I never claimed they [Puritans] have nothing to be proud of – on the contrary, I have praised the fact that they have created a very pleasant, prosperous, democratic, educated and pleasant place to live. Those of us not of Puritan stock are lucky to have ended up in such a place.

    That is the kind of back-handed complement that would brain a person, or break their neck. You appear to just be saying that they are a good place to invade.
     
    If someone praises your home would you interpret that to mean that they are just saying that your home is a good place for squatters to take over? I also like northern Italy and Austria very much. Do you interpret these words as saying that those are good places to invade?

    What a nonsensical way of interpreting someone's words.

    And at any rate an invasion would necessarily replace or eliminate that which was praised. That would be bad.

    As I said, the Anglos (especially the Puritans) built what is a very pleasant, prosperous, and highly-functioning place in the New World.

    It would be stupid to allow it to be strong by retaking the former Soviet spaces.

    If you want a cold, hard, strategic argument, then the best argument from the standpoint of the interests of Europeans or Europeans within America would probably be multipolarity.
     
    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

    Why should Russia ally with Europeans or European-Americans when those are the two large groups in the world (Jews are much smaller) that are the most hostile towards Russia, a cynic might ask*? And when Russia has likely envied them for a very long time?

    *Unless of course one sees no good future where Russia is currently headed and thus prefers GAE vassalage to whatever Russia’s actual future is going to be. This is currently Anatoly Karlin’s position once he saw that Russian nationalism is a loser ideology.

    BTW, this white Canadian family actually did move to Russia in order to escape “LGBTQ+ ideology” and didn’t quite get what they bargained for:

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/conservative-family-disappointed-moving-russia-001517915.html

    Canada is probably better off without them, to be honest. Russia is currently becoming a Based conservative boomer paradise lol.

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Anatoly Karlin lost his mind in 2023, because Putin didn't Kesslerize space lol.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  688. @songbird
    @AP


    Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.
     
    We have already had this argument before.

    The level of genetic replacement does not translate into number killed. If it did, you would have to think that the French were much more genocidal than the Spanish, but you are using both examples to impugn the English, without comparing one to the other.

    Or making any other sort of comparisons to test your idea:
    -Northern Mexico vs. Southern.
    -Northern South America vs. the Southern Cone.
    -The Yamnaya in Northern Europe vs. Southern Europe.
    -Peru vs. the Carib

    It is frankly ridiculous to make any sort of comparison between most of the US and Latin America and claim that the English killed more than the Spanish.

    There were no Indian cities in the US. The largest Indian army ever fielded there was probably about 3,000 (or maybe 5,000, if you want to be very gullible). Meanwhile, there were large empires in Latin America, with large cities and monumental architecture, and armies of at least tens of thousands, but possibly hundreds of thousands. And the American SW had the only thing resembling settled agriculture with permanent villages and irrigation.

    You should limit your argument to the less crazy one. France vs. England.

    How much Taino DNA is in Haiti? Maybe, there is a trace somewhere, but the answer is about zilch.

    The Taino population was very low to start with, then there was very high migration. At the time of the revolution, the majority of slaves had been born in Africa. Then there was the disease. Or you could impugn the French and imply they killed 30 million Taino, who were living there previously. (About the current pop.)

    Let's consider Canada. Quebec is much closer to America, or rather both were pretty Euro once. I have been to Quebec. Frankly, I did not see any Amerinds there. Of course, I will admit that there are more native genes than in the Thirteen Colonies, in the abstract, though the overall percentage still is pretty low compared to Latin America.

    This has a variety of explanations, which are quite easy. The East coast of America is filled with wonderful harbors, generally ice free. It is easy to access, and contains many navigable rivers and has superior climate and agricultural land to Quebec.

    Amusingly enough, today, many migrants to Canada only use it as a stepping stone to get to the US. But put that aside.

    So you have this problem of access. Easy access means easy flow of migrants. Large, frequent groups carrying disease. Easier military action to pacify native groups, as well as better access to women.

    Harder access means smaller, less frequent groups, which carry less disease. The Vikings did not cause some great epidemic because they came in smaller numbers. Both disease and women would have had a harder time travelling with fur trappers, who spent most of their time isolated in wilderness.

    The French had to be more conciliatory to native groups because they had harder access (the English were pretty conciliatory across the Appalachians, but the mountains move closer to the seaboard the further North you go.). Because their economic model was reliant on trade with them, which was fragile, because it was done by small bands and individuals and required peace The French also had to be conciliatory because there were so many English and they needed allies. And because the campaign season is shorter.

    Finally, the English conquered New France in 1760. This virtually turned off immigration into Quebec, leading to a much lower level of replacement. With the expansion happening on a local level only. The Quebecois are remarkably inbred, compared to French or Americans in general.


    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.
     
    On the level of state policy, it is largely or mostly true. Though not entirely, Russia is accepting of Boers. And has run satirical commercials against woke. On the personal level, it is easy to see that many Chinese admire European culture, and there is at least some limited hope in that. Though, naturally, I think Europeans will need to solve their own problems.

    But the point is that it would probably be easier if they didn't have to go against the sole global hegemon.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    And has run satirical commercials against woke.

    Russia would have been much better off fighting against Woke by aggressively funding hereditarian research (especially in regards to the genetic causes of average racial and ethnic differences on important traits, such as IQ/g and crime) rather than spending all of that money in a useless war in Ukraine. A simple smart academic like Nathan Cofnas could have probably told Russia that.

    A strong Russia won’t prevent right-wing Americans from being cancelled any more than a strong Soviet Union prevented McCarthyism in the United States (it didn’t).

    On the personal level, it is easy to see that many Chinese admire European culture, and there is at least some limited hope in that. Though, naturally, I think Europeans will need to solve their own problems.

    Good luck getting the Chinese to ditch their one-party system. Seriously.

    But the point is that it would probably be easier if they didn’t have to go against the sole global hegemon.

    What specifically are Russia and China going to offer to right-wing Americans and Westerners other than a place in exile? Right-wing Americans are already joining VKontakte, after all:

    https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/vkcom-linking-american-white-supremacists-international-counterparts
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/american-alt-right-leaves-facebook-for-russian-site-vkontakte
    https://www.voanews.com/a/american-white-nationalists-barred-by-facebook-find-friendly-haven-on-russia-s-vk-website-/4871044.html
    https://www.axios.com/2023/05/09/american-extremists-russian-sites-shootings

    Honestly, Russia should just flat-out invite the most passionate and dullest several dozen million US right-wingers to move over there. We could benefit from keeping the US right-wing cognitive elite to ourselves. But the right-wing proles, well, we’re less passionate about those. Russia could also accept our ghetto underclasses while it’s at it if it wants to signal against “systemic Western racism” to the Third World lol. Seriously.

  689. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    vote for candidates that represent their views.
     
    In both Ireland and the UK, there are essentially none, among the established parties. The Tories of course ran on that platform, but were lying about it.

    I agree with Eric Kaufmann that normative political change will happen too slowly to solve the crisis. That by its nature it is too slow, and the crisis is advancing too quickly, for democracy to be a solution, even after a very short interval of years. As the numbers will change that radically.

    Reagan’s promotion of democracy and human rights that he promoted over 40 years ago.
     
    40 years ago, it would have been close to impossible to envision the world of today, and in particular the West or America of today.

    Still, I don't think the politicians of that time, even Reagan were blameless. IMO, freedom is too much of foreign policy dialectic and not substantial enough at home to be taken seriously as a foreign policy dialectic. Even a very powerful man like Musk must control his speech and apologize.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Mr. Hack

    The government of the Republic of Ireland are probably less leftwing, compared to ROI’s population. Irish people can be the most leftwing believing population in the world in some ways. It could be economically lucky they have “cynical representatives of international capitalism”, instead of someone like Lula.

    UK, there

    UK’s population has a higher proportion of people with rightwing political views compared to ROI.

    To learn the history of the British islands is complicated and above my knowledge, but to write in the idiots’ way, compared to the Celtic nationalities, populations created more by later Aryan invaders had a greater proportion of land owning during the historical stage of feudalism, then greater proportion of ownership of the means of production during the historical stage of bourgeois capitalism.

    Today, the areas of the islands with higher proportions of descendants of the Celtic populations correlate maybe with the politics more related to the culture typical of the historically disenfranchised population.

    You could see even a negative correlation in the election map for the 2015 Conservative voting with the map of the proportion of people with red hair which could be correlating with the higher proportion of the pre-Saxon, Viking and Norman ancestry.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Dmitry


    The government of the Republic of Ireland are probably less leftwing, compared to ROI’s population. Irish people can be the most leftwing believing population in the world in some ways. It could be economically lucky they have “cynical representatives of international capitalism”, instead of someone like Lula.
     
    For some reason I associate this with the Sinn Fein faction in Irish politics. Afaik while this sort of radicalism has always existed, Ireland has never tried to establish an economic socialist regime. The most that has been attempted is more like a variant of Social Catholicism, something like that.

    On a topic like immigration some of the Irish left-wingers may hold what have become right-wing positions, whereas the elite have become more open borders, which is now also the typical left-wing position.

    To learn the history of the British islands is complicated and above my knowledge, but to write in the idiots’ way, compared to the Celtic nationalities, populations created more by later Aryan invaders had a greater proportion of land owning during the historical stage of feudalism...
     
    The wealthiest areas of England in the South East do seem to have the highest levels of Germanic ancestry when they do studies of Anglo-Saxon era remains. In some ways they seem to resemble other Germanic areas of Europe like the Netherlands and Germany itself, which are also more developed economically than the Celtic areas of Britain. I'm not sure what the explanation of this is, is it cultural, or economic as you outline here, or racial as has been argued in the past.

    This is one of the reasons the French authorities are reluctant to allow studies of the genetics of Norman cemeteries, to avoid restarting this sort of debate.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @songbird
    @Dmitry

    Honestly, I don't think I know enough about UK and Irish politics to say anything very intelligent about internal comparisons.

    But I do wonder if there may have been a shift to the Tories in England because they were seeing the most effects of diversity and perceiving the Tories (wrongly) as opposing immigration.

    The red area in the south of Wales is basically the South Wales Coalfield and/or Cardiff. There was a lot of internal migration there. Not sure how the sum would be categorized, but perhaps migrants would anyway have this dispossessed culture.

    It is curious how SNP and Sinn Féin are both so woke. Can understand some of the arguments, but I still don't think it makes a lot of sense from the perspective of the electorate. IMO, there seems to be a great distortion factor in the party apparatus. Probably in large measure due to the parties' ability to select and purge candidates.

  690. Have heard that most of the teachers of Japanese to foreigners are woman and that foreign men learning Japanese pick up their intonation, and tend to sound like homos as a result.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Jared Taylor?

  691. @songbird
    @Dmitry

    I think it is true that Japan has a strong cultural influence on non-Japanese or half-Japanese people born there. Though, naturally this has many prerequisites and limitations, and requires certain conditions not easily reproducible elsewhere. Some of these conditions may be somewhat time-dependent or expiring, as local factors or advantages change.

    I wish she wasn't wearing such baggy clothes so I could better judge the impact of a high carb diet, but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side of many Japanese.

    What I think is remarkable about the Japanese is their psychological perception of how different gaijin are and their willingness to create niches in the corporate world to try to cater to their sensitivities, in a costly manner.

    Like, normally three Japanese might share a desk, even when one is relatively high-ranking. But they may give a foreigner his own desk. Assign him to a less crowded or chaotic floor. Stop the female employees from serving coffee.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    mpact of a high carb diet, but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side

    If you imply ratio of bodyfat? I think she looks probably within normal range of East Asian populations.

    but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side of many Japanese.

    Those people from Japan usually seem to have body composition within a normal range of countries in East Asia.

    Body composition in developed countries where food is not limited, could be something more culture influenced or at least overall ecological than genetically determined. Maybe, there can be non-culture ecological variables relating to the interaction with bacteria which vary between populations living in different regions, exposures to different pollution types. We would probably guess more important is still culture influences like social pressure, city planning and the food quality for the population.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    This all reminds me of the young Japanese (Ukrainian?) woman who recently was crowned Miss Japan:

    https://youtu.be/GBqeUPuiH6E

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @songbird
    @Dmitry

    She does appear thinner without the baggy clothes.

    Forget who it was, but I recall hearing someone make the observation that Japanese high school boys are prototypically wiry-looking. I.e. neither bulky (very muscular) or fat. I would say that it seems strikingly true.

    Because of the seeming universality of it within Japan, it is tempting to attribute it to genetic factors. Also because there has been heavy genetic selection for diet and metabolism in nearly every group. But it could be that Japanese culture is very regimented, and this has the bigger influence.

    I was recently reading a book written by an American who worked for Ghibli - technically the conglomerate to which it belongs. And he was talking about the big company events they had, where there would be different speakers from different divisions, giving news. And he mentioned that typically they would seat a 16 y.o. pop idol next to him, which would make him lose his concentration when trying to speak Japanese. And I was thinking - wow, I don't think he would have admitted that, if he hadn't spent years in Japan, but had been in America instead, where the feminist culture is stronger and it would be much more taboo to say something like that.

    I wish different governments collected more data about people's habits. I would especially like to know how foreigners in all these different countries might be influenced. Like, would they be fatter on some of these Pacific islands?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

  692. @songbird
    @LatW


    saw some photos where they had gotten pretty large and almost looked like a weird looking bear.
     
    You aren't the only one to think so. The scientific name for the biggest species is Vombatus ursinus

    Check out the marks @2:01
    https://youtu.be/9iI-Kwqic4w?si=wTytD2ExGEhdsQ7j

    Biggest one in captivity was 40 kg. Heard they are pretty strong too.

    I wonder if the gigantic one from the Pleistocene would run at you and then flip with the momentum carrying it to try to hit you with its butt. Probably not, I guess, (probably related to adaptions for burrowing) but it would be pretty funny if it had.

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    [MORE]

    https://twitter.com/JelqingGyani/status/1770281081209504202?s=20
    https://twitter.com/JelqingGyani/status/1770285560042598609?s=20

    This Quebec neo-nazi friend mentioned they built McDonalds where the rallies where held.
    Similar to how the Vatican is built where the Legions gathered.

    ਅਕਾਲ

    • LOL: songbird
  693. @John Johnson
    Ballot stuffing caught on video in Russia:

    https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1770364450144489510?s=20

    Must have been so much easier being a mass murdering dictator in the Stalin days before widespread cameras and internet access.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Or an anonymous commenter.

  694. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.

     

    Why should Russia ally with Europeans or European-Americans when those are the two large groups in the world (Jews are much smaller) that are the most hostile towards Russia, a cynic might ask*? And when Russia has likely envied them for a very long time?

    *Unless of course one sees no good future where Russia is currently headed and thus prefers GAE vassalage to whatever Russia's actual future is going to be. This is currently Anatoly Karlin's position once he saw that Russian nationalism is a loser ideology.

    BTW, this white Canadian family actually did move to Russia in order to escape "LGBTQ+ ideology" and didn't quite get what they bargained for:

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/conservative-family-disappointed-moving-russia-001517915.html

    Canada is probably better off without them, to be honest. Russia is currently becoming a Based conservative boomer paradise lol.

    Replies: @LT1488

    Anatoly Karlin lost his mind in 2023, because Putin didn’t Kesslerize space lol.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488

    That, and because he saw that Russian nationalism's performance on the battlefield against an ostensibly much weaker foe (even with this foe getting a lot of Western aid) was ultimately extremely unimpressive. He thus, as a true Social Darwinist himself, decided that Superglobalism is the truly superior ideology since it is supported by global elite human capital.

  695. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    vote for candidates that represent their views.
     
    In both Ireland and the UK, there are essentially none, among the established parties. The Tories of course ran on that platform, but were lying about it.

    I agree with Eric Kaufmann that normative political change will happen too slowly to solve the crisis. That by its nature it is too slow, and the crisis is advancing too quickly, for democracy to be a solution, even after a very short interval of years. As the numbers will change that radically.

    Reagan’s promotion of democracy and human rights that he promoted over 40 years ago.
     
    40 years ago, it would have been close to impossible to envision the world of today, and in particular the West or America of today.

    Still, I don't think the politicians of that time, even Reagan were blameless. IMO, freedom is too much of foreign policy dialectic and not substantial enough at home to be taken seriously as a foreign policy dialectic. Even a very powerful man like Musk must control his speech and apologize.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Mr. Hack

    IMO, freedom is too much of foreign policy dialectic and not substantial enough at home to be taken seriously as a foreign policy dialectic.

    The interesting, if not brilliant political scientist Francis Fukuyama, may differ with you about this. He’s made quite a cottage industry promoting the idea that all countries in the world are slowly but surely creeping towards models of governance (some backsliding away from this model like Turkey, Thailand and Nicaragua) similar to the Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government. Although his original theories that first saw the day of light in 1989 – 92 have been tweaked and modified somewhat from their inception, he still insists that these ideas are valid, because this form of governance is still the best one because it has “proven to be a fundamentally better system (ethically, politically, economically) than any of the alternatives”. It’s true however that overall over the last 20 years there has been more “backsliding” and totalitarian forms of government have been increasing to the detriment of democratic ones. But even still Fukuyama insists that liberal democracies are here to stay and will in the end eclipse authoritarian models:

    Despite recent authoritarian advances, liberal democracy remains the strongest, most broadly appealing idea out there. Most autocrats, including Putin and Chávez, still feel that they have to conform to the outward rituals of democracy even as they gut its substance. Even China’s Hu Jintao felt compelled to talk about democracy in the run-up to Beijing’s Olympic Games.”[14]

    Finally, he leaves a stark warning that bears repetition and serious contemplation:

    His “ultimate nightmare”, he said in March 2022, is a world in which China supports Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Russia supports a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. If that were to happen, and be successful, Fukuyama said, “then you would really be living in a world that was being dominated by these non-democratic powers. If the United States and the rest of the West couldn’t stop that from happening, then that really is the end of the end of history.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    The interesting, if not brilliant political scientist Francis Fukuyama,

     

    Have a deep distrust of anyone with that label.

    Isn't Fukiyama a famous Neocon? (Perhaps, he has modified his original views here a little?) And woke to boot?

    I wonder what he could mean with regard to Taiwan? Status quo arms supply, or something more...

    I don't think what he is saying makes any sense. Taiwan isn't big enough to make a scalar difference, if it were absorbed.

    That leaves island chain strategy of military containment, which seems to presuppose being willing to fire on Chinese ships, which a quite insane.

    Is Fukiyama this insane?

    Replies: @sudden death, @Mr. Hack

  696. @Dmitry
    @songbird

    The government of the Republic of Ireland are probably less leftwing, compared to ROI's population. Irish people can be the most leftwing believing population in the world in some ways. It could be economically lucky they have "cynical representatives of international capitalism", instead of someone like Lula.


    UK, there

     

    UK's population has a higher proportion of people with rightwing political views compared to ROI.

    To learn the history of the British islands is complicated and above my knowledge, but to write in the idiots' way, compared to the Celtic nationalities, populations created more by later Aryan invaders had a greater proportion of land owning during the historical stage of feudalism, then greater proportion of ownership of the means of production during the historical stage of bourgeois capitalism.

    Today, the areas of the islands with higher proportions of descendants of the Celtic populations correlate maybe with the politics more related to the culture typical of the historically disenfranchised population.

    You could see even a negative correlation in the election map for the 2015 Conservative voting with the map of the proportion of people with red hair which could be correlating with the higher proportion of the pre-Saxon, Viking and Norman ancestry.

    https://i.imgur.com/lIuvSrk.jpeg

    https://i.imgur.com/lKJohmR.jpeg

    Replies: @Coconuts, @songbird

    The government of the Republic of Ireland are probably less leftwing, compared to ROI’s population. Irish people can be the most leftwing believing population in the world in some ways. It could be economically lucky they have “cynical representatives of international capitalism”, instead of someone like Lula.

    For some reason I associate this with the Sinn Fein faction in Irish politics. Afaik while this sort of radicalism has always existed, Ireland has never tried to establish an economic socialist regime. The most that has been attempted is more like a variant of Social Catholicism, something like that.

    On a topic like immigration some of the Irish left-wingers may hold what have become right-wing positions, whereas the elite have become more open borders, which is now also the typical left-wing position.

    To learn the history of the British islands is complicated and above my knowledge, but to write in the idiots’ way, compared to the Celtic nationalities, populations created more by later Aryan invaders had a greater proportion of land owning during the historical stage of feudalism…

    The wealthiest areas of England in the South East do seem to have the highest levels of Germanic ancestry when they do studies of Anglo-Saxon era remains. In some ways they seem to resemble other Germanic areas of Europe like the Netherlands and Germany itself, which are also more developed economically than the Celtic areas of Britain. I’m not sure what the explanation of this is, is it cultural, or economic as you outline here, or racial as has been argued in the past.

    This is one of the reasons the French authorities are reluctant to allow studies of the genetics of Norman cemeteries, to avoid restarting this sort of debate.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Coconuts


    The wealthiest areas of England

     

    I have been living in Netherlands. It's a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities' design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.

    Some things in the city planning can be related. When those cities are constructed, there was maybe the mutual history of England and Netherlands the 17th and 18th century in the development of capitalism and imperialism.

    -

    I don't know if you can agree with me these kind of cities are similar?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzBTgxhKIM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRks_JVPfk

    The buildings which are before the 19th century, are from a similar architecture school and Netherlands-England city planning is not so different before the 19th century.


    Ireland has never tried to establish an economic socialist regime. The most that has been attempted is more like a variant of Social Catholicism, something like that.

     

    Politics of Ireland can also be more influenced by the Catholic victim culture and internationalism.

    Even some of the ROI's "cynical capitalist" political culture today to be outsourcing government to international organizations is not only divergent to the historical Catholic path outsourcing authority to the Pope.

    There is a significant difference today compared to Great Britain in terms of the right-left distribution of the ordinary population. You can guess Geert Wilders could be popular in England, you couldn't imagine Geert Wilders in ROI. If Conor McGregor begins a political career soon, he would probably go to the USA where he could have attained more mainstream political support.


    Germanic areas of Europe like the Netherlands and Germany itself, which are also more developed economically than the Celtic areas of Britain.
     
    Netherlands' culture is more functional than England. the working class and upper class people.

    England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn't have this upper class. But the average city in the Netherlands is more civilized.

    It's like the transport and bicycle fashions which is for norma peoplel in the Netherlands, is the culture of upper class hipster areas in England.

    Replies: @S1, @Coconuts

  697. @Dmitry
    @songbird


    mpact of a high carb diet, but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side

     

    If you imply ratio of bodyfat? I think she looks probably within normal range of East Asian populations.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUV4Zr1VLNc


    but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side of many Japanese.

     

    Those people from Japan usually seem to have body composition within a normal range of countries in East Asia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnqYuu7MvoQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuB2B0BbBOI

    -

    Body composition in developed countries where food is not limited, could be something more culture influenced or at least overall ecological than genetically determined. Maybe, there can be non-culture ecological variables relating to the interaction with bacteria which vary between populations living in different regions, exposures to different pollution types. We would probably guess more important is still culture influences like social pressure, city planning and the food quality for the population.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    This all reminds me of the young Japanese (Ukrainian?) woman who recently was crowned Miss Japan:

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    This is an interesting little tidbit. I doubt she is the prettiest or most accomplished of the contestants, so why did they pick her? Does she get double points for being the tallest?

    Her Japanese doesn't sound quite right though her face seems sincere. I would like to hear her speech in Ukrainian and also one of the Japanese girls saying the same thing.

    Maybe Ihor K. owns the pageant production company?

    Her smile in the cover shot is strange.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  698. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    But this has certainly been a disaster for Euros, and Slavs in particular.
     
    I don't read much about Poles, Slovaks, Czechs, Bulgarians or even either Serbs complaining about their disastrous conditions due to moving over to the Western block of democracies? Ukrainians are thrilled at the prospect of joining this club, if only to have access to much needed weaponry.

    perhaps, they should first support Britain and Ireland who are currently ruled by four PoCs and under a state of extreme invasion, which has no democratic support.
     
    If you mean unimpeded immigration, all I can say is that the locals already living in these areas for generations, need to make their voices heard louder and vote for candidates that represent their views.

    Or perhaps, Germany, where the police pulled a 14 y.o. girl out of classroom after she made a TikTok video endorsing AfD.
     
    This is of course a travesty of justice, and is garnering concern around the world, but I don't in any way see this as a result of Reagan's promotion of democracy and human rights that he promoted over 40 years ago.

    Replies: @songbird, @Coconuts

    If you mean unimpeded immigration, all I can say is that the locals already living in these areas for generations, need to make their voices heard louder and vote for candidates that represent their views.

    Songbird has mentioned this but a problem with the system in the UK is that the party that campaigned to lower immigration raised it to unprecedented levels once it got into office. The opposition party, which is formally pro-migration, would likely never have attempted a radical policy change like this.

    When the only plausible candidates for government both de facto agree on a policy and don’t want to discuss the actions they are going to take in power, there isn’t a lot that can be done about it.

    There are also formal and informal restrictions on freedom of expression around this issue. The new expansive hate crime law that has just been implemented in Scotland, and the similar hate crime law that is being debated in Ireland would be examples.

    It’s relatively clear now that unless you have elite support for a policy (among the intellectual, economic, political and administrative elites), there is low chance of any action being taken about it. There will be no one to co-ordinate and lead any political campaign, opponents who hold more direct power can suppress it before it builds any momentum. And at the moment these elites are still mostly favourable to mass migration and the cultural change it brings.

    Looking at the current immigration levels in comparison with demographic data about the birthrate of the white British and the ethnic minorities already here, Songbird is right that major change is an inevitability. At the same time the plausibility of there having been a multi-generational democratic mandate for bringing this about seems low.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  699. @AnonfromTN
    I forgot that, in addition to the word "bistro", Napoleon’s invasion of Russia also added French expression “C'est la Bérézina” (this is Berezina) meaning that this is a total unmitigated catastrophe.

    Another vignette I did not point out before: in Napoleon’s war on Russia participated the whole Europe, most countries that today constitute the EU. Not only French, but also Germans, Poles, even Portuguese entered Moscow in 1812. The survival rate among those who entered Moscow back then and later ran away across Western Russia was ~15%, so there were enough survivors left to tell the story. But Hegel was right, we learn from history that we do not learn from history.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Thanks – I didnt realise about the Portuguese involvement, though of course aware of the general point that in 1812, just like now, just as in GPW – it was whole of Europe trying ( and failing) to destroy Russia.

    It also reminds that although we normally think of either the Germans or Anglo-saxons as our main historical enemies……in some form or another its the french who “deserve” this title . Direct wars against Russia such as with Napolean and alliance with the others in the Crimean , involvement/incitement in failure Poland wars against Russia….and French quick capitulation and subsequent mass military-industrialisation effort for the Nazi’s probably being the key factor in Nazi war against Soviet Union. Together with the time factor smashing expectations, must assume that casualty rate in defeat of France must have been at least 10 times lower than what was planned for.

    At least the anglo-saxon faggots switch sides when convenient, the French don’t appear to do that much by comparison in favour of Russia.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Gerard1234

    French are prickly, volatile and strategically all over the map. They stir up trouble not to win but to benefit from the confusion. De Gaulle was perceived as pro-Russia, as were Mitterand, Chirac, even Sarkozy and Macron. But they only play it to find an angle to make France matter. De Gaulle got acceptance as WW2 "ally" - in reality France was allied with Germany and heavily contributed to the Nazis. De Gaulle used Stalin's naive belief that France could be friendlier than the Anglos.

    That strategy failed in Ukraine - France was all-in on the Nato expansion. Now they have started acting up, jumping to the front: 'me-me', playing the most radical part of anti-Russian coalition. This happened a few times before.

    It is not working, thus the hysteria. The most interesting question will be whether Russia learns anything permanent from the experience. They tend to go wobbly once they win and are easily swayed by pretty speeches.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  700. @Wokechoke
    @Coconuts

    What I’m saying is that the last campaign of the Duke of York contained a massive contingent of Russian troops. It ended with 40,000 Russians landed in the Isle of Wight after the campaign was wound down.

    Would have been a very interesting campaign to cover in a movie like Ridley Scott’s Napoleon. Even though he wasn’t there the sight of Tommy and Ivan fighting Piet and Pierre in Amsterdam would have been a hoot. It was mentioned in passing by Napoleon as an abomination up north.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    What I’m saying is that the last campaign of the Duke of York contained a massive contingent of Russian troops. It ended with 40,000 Russians landed in the Isle of Wight after the campaign was wound down.

    Well, Russian oak (mostly from my place, Tatarstan) is what the British Royal Navy ships were built from from late 17th century onwards. So Russian oak rots less and major factor that created powerful navy for the British…and powerful navy is of course what lead to Britain becoming the dominant world power , so I would have to assume the export of oak is the genesis of this this anglo-Russian military campaign you are mentioning.

    Second main factor was probably natural union against Catholic states despotism. This military union ( that I had never head of before) looks like a campaign against a French (i.e Catholic) controlled dutch state.

    Britain established diplomatic and trade relations with Russia in 1500s – a long time before Poland – which indicates everything.

  701. @Gerard1234
    @AnonfromTN

    Thanks - I didnt realise about the Portuguese involvement, though of course aware of the general point that in 1812, just like now, just as in GPW - it was whole of Europe trying ( and failing) to destroy Russia.

    It also reminds that although we normally think of either the Germans or Anglo-saxons as our main historical enemies......in some form or another its the french who "deserve" this title . Direct wars against Russia such as with Napolean and alliance with the others in the Crimean , involvement/incitement in failure Poland wars against Russia....and French quick capitulation and subsequent mass military-industrialisation effort for the Nazi's probably being the key factor in Nazi war against Soviet Union. Together with the time factor smashing expectations, must assume that casualty rate in defeat of France must have been at least 10 times lower than what was planned for.

    At least the anglo-saxon faggots switch sides when convenient, the French don't appear to do that much by comparison in favour of Russia.

    Replies: @Beckow

    French are prickly, volatile and strategically all over the map. They stir up trouble not to win but to benefit from the confusion. De Gaulle was perceived as pro-Russia, as were Mitterand, Chirac, even Sarkozy and Macron. But they only play it to find an angle to make France matter. De Gaulle got acceptance as WW2 “ally” – in reality France was allied with Germany and heavily contributed to the Nazis. De Gaulle used Stalin’s naive belief that France could be friendlier than the Anglos.

    That strategy failed in Ukraine – France was all-in on the Nato expansion. Now they have started acting up, jumping to the front: ‘me-me‘, playing the most radical part of anti-Russian coalition. This happened a few times before.

    It is not working, thus the hysteria. The most interesting question will be whether Russia learns anything permanent from the experience. They tend to go wobbly once they win and are easily swayed by pretty speeches.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Have you read Junger's war diaries when he was in Paris? He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place. There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn't anything to resist.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Coconuts

  702. @Dmitry
    @songbird


    mpact of a high carb diet, but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side

     

    If you imply ratio of bodyfat? I think she looks probably within normal range of East Asian populations.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUV4Zr1VLNc


    but my suspicion is that she would be on the heavier side of many Japanese.

     

    Those people from Japan usually seem to have body composition within a normal range of countries in East Asia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnqYuu7MvoQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuB2B0BbBOI

    -

    Body composition in developed countries where food is not limited, could be something more culture influenced or at least overall ecological than genetically determined. Maybe, there can be non-culture ecological variables relating to the interaction with bacteria which vary between populations living in different regions, exposures to different pollution types. We would probably guess more important is still culture influences like social pressure, city planning and the food quality for the population.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    She does appear thinner without the baggy clothes.

    [MORE]

    Forget who it was, but I recall hearing someone make the observation that Japanese high school boys are prototypically wiry-looking. I.e. neither bulky (very muscular) or fat. I would say that it seems strikingly true.

    Because of the seeming universality of it within Japan, it is tempting to attribute it to genetic factors. Also because there has been heavy genetic selection for diet and metabolism in nearly every group. But it could be that Japanese culture is very regimented, and this has the bigger influence.

    I was recently reading a book written by an American who worked for Ghibli – technically the conglomerate to which it belongs. And he was talking about the big company events they had, where there would be different speakers from different divisions, giving news. And he mentioned that typically they would seat a 16 y.o. pop idol next to him, which would make him lose his concentration when trying to speak Japanese. And I was thinking – wow, I don’t think he would have admitted that, if he hadn’t spent years in Japan, but had been in America instead, where the feminist culture is stronger and it would be much more taboo to say something like that.

    I wish different governments collected more data about people’s habits. I would especially like to know how foreigners in all these different countries might be influenced. Like, would they be fatter on some of these Pacific islands?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    What this thread needs is a report from Moscow chicks on what a fake Russian Anatoly Karlin is and the obvious giveaways that he is a refugee from Anglo Land.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    , @Dmitry
    @songbird


    genetic selection for diet
     
    Maybe for the agriculture diet of the 19th century peasants. 21st century humans are not very genetically selected for some aspects of the 21st century dietary patterns in the developed, industrialized countries like having unlimited food and our cupboard full of bags of potato chips.


    -

    She said her height is 186 cm.

    Average calories eaten by woman in Japan are 1700 calories, which is lower even than some developing countries like India.

    So, for someone with this height, to become overweight, she would need to be significantly divergent from the most common dietary pattern of people in her country. Culture pressure probably explains why those people from Japan with non-Japanese origin would have lower body fat than people from their ancestral countries.

    The puzzle is why the culture overall is different in relation to food compared to most industrialized societies.


    wish different governments collected more data about people’s habits. I would especially like to know how foreigners in all these different countries might be influenced.

     

    The culture pressure would be probably to eat the normal diet which has lower calories. Also to use the normal transportation, which has more energy expenditure in Japan compared to the USA.

    -

    There is 10x difference, in rates of female obesity between the USA and Japan, which is unexpected if you consider both countries have the same economic level, modernization and industrialization processes in the 20th century.

    https://i.imgur.com/18eNnO1.jpeg

    Japan's obesity rate is a lot closer to Ethiopia and Uganda in still much earlier stages of history, while the historical modernization level is like Texas or Illinois.

    Replies: @songbird

  703. @Beckow
    @Gerard1234

    French are prickly, volatile and strategically all over the map. They stir up trouble not to win but to benefit from the confusion. De Gaulle was perceived as pro-Russia, as were Mitterand, Chirac, even Sarkozy and Macron. But they only play it to find an angle to make France matter. De Gaulle got acceptance as WW2 "ally" - in reality France was allied with Germany and heavily contributed to the Nazis. De Gaulle used Stalin's naive belief that France could be friendlier than the Anglos.

    That strategy failed in Ukraine - France was all-in on the Nato expansion. Now they have started acting up, jumping to the front: 'me-me', playing the most radical part of anti-Russian coalition. This happened a few times before.

    It is not working, thus the hysteria. The most interesting question will be whether Russia learns anything permanent from the experience. They tend to go wobbly once they win and are easily swayed by pretty speeches.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Have you read Junger’s war diaries when he was in Paris? He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place. There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn’t anything to resist.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn’t anything to resist.
     
    As far as I know, Resistance was mostly a fairy tale, invented by French to make them look better despite shameful capitulation of France to Nazis. They even executed Petain after the war to keep up appearances.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    ...Nazi France was a pretty cool place. There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn’t anything to resist.
     
    That may be true, but that wasn't my point. France was the largest collaborator of Nazi Germany after Italy. There was little Resistance or Free French until the end of the war - by then Germany was throughly defeated by Russia. In the Normandy Invasion - itself a small affair by WW2 standards - there were 177 French soldiers. The French Charlemagne SS Division fought to the bitter end in Berlin.

    Why did Russia choose to treat the French as "allies" is a mystery. Probably misplaced naivete. They should add up what the French did and ask for compensation, everyone else is. France will be hurt by the latest Macron antics, they are too weak to be posturing and have a lot to answer for.

    , @Coconuts
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place.
     
    Junger was still a German nationalist, it was the sort of pov they tended to have.

    Like in 1914, in the time of the spikey helmets, they were outraged that the Belgians were shooting at them as they were trying to bring Belgium the gift of Culture.

    Recently I translated a book by a man who knew Junger in Paris during the war, sometimes he gets called the French version of Junger. He publicly pledged himself to collaboration with the 'Hitlerians' but was less relaxed about it how it was being received by the wider French public.

    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of 'beauty as violence', and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

  704. @songbird
    @AP


    Not many. In contrast, hundreds of millions of people in Latin America carry a Native genetic legacy. Even the small French colonial legacy includes Metis.
     
    We have already had this argument before.

    The level of genetic replacement does not translate into number killed. If it did, you would have to think that the French were much more genocidal than the Spanish, but you are using both examples to impugn the English, without comparing one to the other.

    Or making any other sort of comparisons to test your idea:
    -Northern Mexico vs. Southern.
    -Northern South America vs. the Southern Cone.
    -The Yamnaya in Northern Europe vs. Southern Europe.
    -Peru vs. the Carib

    It is frankly ridiculous to make any sort of comparison between most of the US and Latin America and claim that the English killed more than the Spanish.

    There were no Indian cities in the US. The largest Indian army ever fielded there was probably about 3,000 (or maybe 5,000, if you want to be very gullible). Meanwhile, there were large empires in Latin America, with large cities and monumental architecture, and armies of at least tens of thousands, but possibly hundreds of thousands. And the American SW had the only thing resembling settled agriculture with permanent villages and irrigation.

    You should limit your argument to the less crazy one. France vs. England.

    How much Taino DNA is in Haiti? Maybe, there is a trace somewhere, but the answer is about zilch.

    The Taino population was very low to start with, then there was very high migration. At the time of the revolution, the majority of slaves had been born in Africa. Then there was the disease. Or you could impugn the French and imply they killed 30 million Taino, who were living there previously. (About the current pop.)

    Let's consider Canada. Quebec is much closer to America, or rather both were pretty Euro once. I have been to Quebec. Frankly, I did not see any Amerinds there. Of course, I will admit that there are more native genes than in the Thirteen Colonies, in the abstract, though the overall percentage still is pretty low compared to Latin America.

    This has a variety of explanations, which are quite easy. The East coast of America is filled with wonderful harbors, generally ice free. It is easy to access, and contains many navigable rivers and has superior climate and agricultural land to Quebec.

    Amusingly enough, today, many migrants to Canada only use it as a stepping stone to get to the US. But put that aside.

    So you have this problem of access. Easy access means easy flow of migrants. Large, frequent groups carrying disease. Easier military action to pacify native groups, as well as better access to women.

    Harder access means smaller, less frequent groups, which carry less disease. The Vikings did not cause some great epidemic because they came in smaller numbers. Both disease and women would have had a harder time travelling with fur trappers, who spent most of their time isolated in wilderness.

    The French had to be more conciliatory to native groups because they had harder access (the English were pretty conciliatory across the Appalachians, but the mountains move closer to the seaboard the further North you go.). Because their economic model was reliant on trade with them, which was fragile, because it was done by small bands and individuals and required peace The French also had to be conciliatory because there were so many English and they needed allies. And because the campaign season is shorter.

    Finally, the English conquered New France in 1760. This virtually turned off immigration into Quebec, leading to a much lower level of replacement. With the expansion happening on a local level only. The Quebecois are remarkably inbred, compared to French or Americans in general.


    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians are interesting in helping Europeans or European-Americans. On the contrary.
     
    On the level of state policy, it is largely or mostly true. Though not entirely, Russia is accepting of Boers. And has run satirical commercials against woke. On the personal level, it is easy to see that many Chinese admire European culture, and there is at least some limited hope in that. Though, naturally, I think Europeans will need to solve their own problems.

    But the point is that it would probably be easier if they didn't have to go against the sole global hegemon.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Some guy on twitter just happened to compare the French, Spanish and English approaches towards Natives. Matches my own conclusions:

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP

    IMO, it is hard to pull apart all the factors because geography itself is very influential.

    Spain was nearer to its colonies, and the prevailing winds were more favorable for them getting there. So, you could say Spain was locked into getting the lands with the highest population density.

    This core, itself would have been influential in any expansion, but in addition, in South America there is less land as you go South, and so the landmass itself is closer to the Equator. So you would expect more Amerind influence throughout, even without considering other factors.

    Whereas, the English colonial core was not very Amerind and this would have influenced its expansion.

    BTW, that last tweet was interesting:


    However, the Japanese, who fought both the English and Americans in the Pacific theater of World War 2 often remarked at the differences in fighting styles of the two races. They attributed a certain ferocity and stubbornness to the presence of Indian blood in the Americans.
     
    Some people do attribute a similar warlike nature between Europeans and Indians to ANE, but I am not sure they were familiar with these Jap thoughts.

    I've long held this great suspicion that there must be many great anthropological observations made by the Japanese that are locked away from a wider audience since they were never translated. Hopefully, AI will help change that. I myself would very much like to read travel books written by Japanese about other countries.
  705. @songbird
    @Dmitry

    She does appear thinner without the baggy clothes.

    Forget who it was, but I recall hearing someone make the observation that Japanese high school boys are prototypically wiry-looking. I.e. neither bulky (very muscular) or fat. I would say that it seems strikingly true.

    Because of the seeming universality of it within Japan, it is tempting to attribute it to genetic factors. Also because there has been heavy genetic selection for diet and metabolism in nearly every group. But it could be that Japanese culture is very regimented, and this has the bigger influence.

    I was recently reading a book written by an American who worked for Ghibli - technically the conglomerate to which it belongs. And he was talking about the big company events they had, where there would be different speakers from different divisions, giving news. And he mentioned that typically they would seat a 16 y.o. pop idol next to him, which would make him lose his concentration when trying to speak Japanese. And I was thinking - wow, I don't think he would have admitted that, if he hadn't spent years in Japan, but had been in America instead, where the feminist culture is stronger and it would be much more taboo to say something like that.

    I wish different governments collected more data about people's habits. I would especially like to know how foreigners in all these different countries might be influenced. Like, would they be fatter on some of these Pacific islands?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    What this thread needs is a report from Moscow chicks on what a fake Russian Anatoly Karlin is and the obvious giveaways that he is a refugee from Anglo Land.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    What this thread needs is a report from Moscow chicks on what a fake Russian Anatoly Karlin
     
    Moscow chicks would have something to report only if he is still normal in that regard.
    , @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    We seem to have had no agent provocateurs here, pretending to be AK's exes.

    @QCIC
    Am not qualified to judge Jared Taylor's Japanese.

    To me, his English sounds fairly normal, even if I can't pinpoint it fully. I think there might be an upper class influence entwined in there. Snootiness, or maybe something largely extinct, rather than lisp. (Though I have heard he is quite polite.)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  706. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    What this thread needs is a report from Moscow chicks on what a fake Russian Anatoly Karlin is and the obvious giveaways that he is a refugee from Anglo Land.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    What this thread needs is a report from Moscow chicks on what a fake Russian Anatoly Karlin

    Moscow chicks would have something to report only if he is still normal in that regard.

  707. https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/sports/2024/03/600_371070.html

    Ohtani’s wife turns heads clutching $30 bag in Seoul

    They also have a photo of her sitting in a regular stadium seat, not the rich people’s luxury boxes. Travis Kelce complained on twitter that he was out over a million for the super bowl box for Taylor Swift. The Korea Times story brought over .9 of a tear to my eye.

    Ohtani might be the Kwisatz Haderach.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Ohtani might be the Kwisatz Haderach.
     
    While “Dune” and even the sequels (lower quality than the original “Dune”, but still decent entertainment) might be interesting, I think you read to much into it. Ohtani is certainly not Paul Atreides.
  708. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Have you read Junger's war diaries when he was in Paris? He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place. There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn't anything to resist.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Coconuts

    There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn’t anything to resist.

    As far as I know, Resistance was mostly a fairy tale, invented by French to make them look better despite shameful capitulation of France to Nazis. They even executed Petain after the war to keep up appearances.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    The lesson of Franco Prussian swat or even this Russo Ukie war, a fanatically defended city is very difficult for a modern army to take over.

    Paris avoided being Gaza’ed though.

  709. @Emil Nikola Richard
    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/sports/2024/03/600_371070.html

    Ohtani's wife turns heads clutching $30 bag in Seoul

    They also have a photo of her sitting in a regular stadium seat, not the rich people's luxury boxes. Travis Kelce complained on twitter that he was out over a million for the super bowl box for Taylor Swift. The Korea Times story brought over .9 of a tear to my eye.

    Ohtani might be the Kwisatz Haderach.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Ohtani might be the Kwisatz Haderach.

    While “Dune” and even the sequels (lower quality than the original “Dune”, but still decent entertainment) might be interesting, I think you read to much into it. Ohtani is certainly not Paul Atreides.

  710. @AP
    @songbird

    Some guy on twitter just happened to compare the French, Spanish and English approaches towards Natives. Matches my own conclusions:



    https://twitter.com/vandiemen_/status/1770656263799812526?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @songbird

    IMO, it is hard to pull apart all the factors because geography itself is very influential.

    [MORE]

    Spain was nearer to its colonies, and the prevailing winds were more favorable for them getting there. So, you could say Spain was locked into getting the lands with the highest population density.

    This core, itself would have been influential in any expansion, but in addition, in South America there is less land as you go South, and so the landmass itself is closer to the Equator. So you would expect more Amerind influence throughout, even without considering other factors.

    Whereas, the English colonial core was not very Amerind and this would have influenced its expansion.

    BTW, that last tweet was interesting:

    However, the Japanese, who fought both the English and Americans in the Pacific theater of World War 2 often remarked at the differences in fighting styles of the two races. They attributed a certain ferocity and stubbornness to the presence of Indian blood in the Americans.

    Some people do attribute a similar warlike nature between Europeans and Indians to ANE, but I am not sure they were familiar with these Jap thoughts.

    I’ve long held this great suspicion that there must be many great anthropological observations made by the Japanese that are locked away from a wider audience since they were never translated. Hopefully, AI will help change that. I myself would very much like to read travel books written by Japanese about other countries.

  711. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Have you read Junger's war diaries when he was in Paris? He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place. There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn't anything to resist.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Coconuts

    …Nazi France was a pretty cool place. There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn’t anything to resist.

    That may be true, but that wasn’t my point. France was the largest collaborator of Nazi Germany after Italy. There was little Resistance or Free French until the end of the war – by then Germany was throughly defeated by Russia. In the Normandy Invasion – itself a small affair by WW2 standards – there were 177 French soldiers. The French Charlemagne SS Division fought to the bitter end in Berlin.

    Why did Russia choose to treat the French as “allies” is a mystery. Probably misplaced naivete. They should add up what the French did and ask for compensation, everyone else is. France will be hurt by the latest Macron antics, they are too weak to be posturing and have a lot to answer for.

  712. @songbird
    Have heard that most of the teachers of Japanese to foreigners are woman and that foreign men learning Japanese pick up their intonation, and tend to sound like homos as a result.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Jared Taylor?

  713. @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    This all reminds me of the young Japanese (Ukrainian?) woman who recently was crowned Miss Japan:

    https://youtu.be/GBqeUPuiH6E

    Replies: @QCIC

    This is an interesting little tidbit. I doubt she is the prettiest or most accomplished of the contestants, so why did they pick her? Does she get double points for being the tallest?

    Her Japanese doesn’t sound quite right though her face seems sincere. I would like to hear her speech in Ukrainian and also one of the Japanese girls saying the same thing.

    Maybe Ihor K. owns the pageant production company?

    Her smile in the cover shot is strange.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Karolina Shaino was born the child of a Japanese father and a Ukrainian mother. Here, in this video clip she can be heard speaking in her native Ukrainian language, reminiscing about her childhood lived in Ukraine. She definitely knows Ukrainian, but it's obvious that she is a bit rusty probably due to not using the language much now. After all, she states that she thinks and speaks like any other Japanese woman.

    https://youtu.be/fycIArEB8Sg

    She was the queen for only a short time, as she decided to turn in her crown due to a huge scandal. Apparently, she was having an affair with one of the judges. :-(

    Replies: @QCIC

  714. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    What this thread needs is a report from Moscow chicks on what a fake Russian Anatoly Karlin is and the obvious giveaways that he is a refugee from Anglo Land.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    We seem to have had no agent provocateurs here, pretending to be AK’s exes.


    Am not qualified to judge Jared Taylor’s Japanese.

    To me, his English sounds fairly normal, even if I can’t pinpoint it fully. I think there might be an upper class influence entwined in there. Snootiness, or maybe something largely extinct, rather than lisp. (Though I have heard he is quite polite.)

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    The Venn Diagram of topics has completely dissociated. We don't have any transhumanists on this board now except for one raving idiot.

    Replies: @songbird

  715. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    IMO, freedom is too much of foreign policy dialectic and not substantial enough at home to be taken seriously as a foreign policy dialectic.
     
    The interesting, if not brilliant political scientist Francis Fukuyama, may differ with you about this. He's made quite a cottage industry promoting the idea that all countries in the world are slowly but surely creeping towards models of governance (some backsliding away from this model like Turkey, Thailand and Nicaragua) similar to the Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government. Although his original theories that first saw the day of light in 1989 - 92 have been tweaked and modified somewhat from their inception, he still insists that these ideas are valid, because this form of governance is still the best one because it has "proven to be a fundamentally better system (ethically, politically, economically) than any of the alternatives". It's true however that overall over the last 20 years there has been more "backsliding" and totalitarian forms of government have been increasing to the detriment of democratic ones. But even still Fukuyama insists that liberal democracies are here to stay and will in the end eclipse authoritarian models:

    Despite recent authoritarian advances, liberal democracy remains the strongest, most broadly appealing idea out there. Most autocrats, including Putin and Chávez, still feel that they have to conform to the outward rituals of democracy even as they gut its substance. Even China's Hu Jintao felt compelled to talk about democracy in the run-up to Beijing's Olympic Games."[14]
     
    Finally, he leaves a stark warning that bears repetition and serious contemplation:

    His "ultimate nightmare", he said in March 2022, is a world in which China supports Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Russia supports a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. If that were to happen, and be successful, Fukuyama said, "then you would really be living in a world that was being dominated by these non-democratic powers. If the United States and the rest of the West couldn't stop that from happening, then that really is the end of the end of history."
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man

    Replies: @songbird

    The interesting, if not brilliant political scientist Francis Fukuyama,

    Have a deep distrust of anyone with that label.

    Isn’t Fukiyama a famous Neocon? (Perhaps, he has modified his original views here a little?) And woke to boot?

    I wonder what he could mean with regard to Taiwan? Status quo arms supply, or something more…

    I don’t think what he is saying makes any sense. Taiwan isn’t big enough to make a scalar difference, if it were absorbed.

    That leaves island chain strategy of military containment, which seems to presuppose being willing to fire on Chinese ships, which a quite insane.

    Is Fukiyama this insane?

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @songbird


    seems to presuppose being willing to fire on Chinese ships
     
    Not having thorough navy military knowledge, but judging by current developing events - if there will be any firing on CCP'ied China ships in the future, most probably it will be done by Taiwanese themselves with UA style antiship rocketry&unmanned water/underwater drones.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Have a deep distrust of anyone with that label.
     
    Deep? Why's that?

    Isn’t Fukiyama a famous Neocon? (Perhaps, he has modified his original views here a little?) And woke to boot?
     
    Can't really attest to whether Fukiyama is woke or not, but understand that he has distanced himself from his earlier self designation of being a part of the neo-con movement. Nobody's perfect, songbird. :-)

    I don’t think what he is saying makes any sense. Taiwan isn’t big enough to make a scalar difference, if it were absorbed.
     
    It does seem to make sense to me on a very basic level. Taiwan has definitely been on a "hands off" status as far as the US is concerned and has been designated so with mutual defense treaties reflecting the US as a main sponsor of its existence. If the mainland were to attack Taiwan, nobody doubts that all hell would break loose. If it were really only a scalar size chunk of real estate in importance, don't you think that China would have long ago pursued its absorption through military occupation?

    Replies: @songbird

  716. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    The interesting, if not brilliant political scientist Francis Fukuyama,

     

    Have a deep distrust of anyone with that label.

    Isn't Fukiyama a famous Neocon? (Perhaps, he has modified his original views here a little?) And woke to boot?

    I wonder what he could mean with regard to Taiwan? Status quo arms supply, or something more...

    I don't think what he is saying makes any sense. Taiwan isn't big enough to make a scalar difference, if it were absorbed.

    That leaves island chain strategy of military containment, which seems to presuppose being willing to fire on Chinese ships, which a quite insane.

    Is Fukiyama this insane?

    Replies: @sudden death, @Mr. Hack

    seems to presuppose being willing to fire on Chinese ships

    Not having thorough navy military knowledge, but judging by current developing events – if there will be any firing on CCP’ied China ships in the future, most probably it will be done by Taiwanese themselves with UA style antiship rocketry&unmanned water/underwater drones.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @sudden death


    if there will be any firing on CCP’ied China ships in the future, most probably it will be done by Taiwanese themselves
     
    You are likely right: the empire would prefer to use Taiwan as a battering ram against China, just like it is using Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. Imperial problem is that both are too rotten to be effective battering rams. The US is beginning to realize it now regarding Ukraine, although it is slow on the uptake.

    Replies: @sudden death, @A123

    , @songbird
    @sudden death

    TBH, I was kind of thinking of drones in the other direction - would create a Chinese advantage in blockading.

  717. @Dmitry
    @songbird

    The government of the Republic of Ireland are probably less leftwing, compared to ROI's population. Irish people can be the most leftwing believing population in the world in some ways. It could be economically lucky they have "cynical representatives of international capitalism", instead of someone like Lula.


    UK, there

     

    UK's population has a higher proportion of people with rightwing political views compared to ROI.

    To learn the history of the British islands is complicated and above my knowledge, but to write in the idiots' way, compared to the Celtic nationalities, populations created more by later Aryan invaders had a greater proportion of land owning during the historical stage of feudalism, then greater proportion of ownership of the means of production during the historical stage of bourgeois capitalism.

    Today, the areas of the islands with higher proportions of descendants of the Celtic populations correlate maybe with the politics more related to the culture typical of the historically disenfranchised population.

    You could see even a negative correlation in the election map for the 2015 Conservative voting with the map of the proportion of people with red hair which could be correlating with the higher proportion of the pre-Saxon, Viking and Norman ancestry.

    https://i.imgur.com/lIuvSrk.jpeg

    https://i.imgur.com/lKJohmR.jpeg

    Replies: @Coconuts, @songbird

    Honestly, I don’t think I know enough about UK and Irish politics to say anything very intelligent about internal comparisons.

    But I do wonder if there may have been a shift to the Tories in England because they were seeing the most effects of diversity and perceiving the Tories (wrongly) as opposing immigration.

    The red area in the south of Wales is basically the South Wales Coalfield and/or Cardiff. There was a lot of internal migration there. Not sure how the sum would be categorized, but perhaps migrants would anyway have this dispossessed culture.

    It is curious how SNP and Sinn Féin are both so woke. Can understand some of the arguments, but I still don’t think it makes a lot of sense from the perspective of the electorate. IMO, there seems to be a great distortion factor in the party apparatus. Probably in large measure due to the parties’ ability to select and purge candidates.

  718. @sudden death
    @songbird


    seems to presuppose being willing to fire on Chinese ships
     
    Not having thorough navy military knowledge, but judging by current developing events - if there will be any firing on CCP'ied China ships in the future, most probably it will be done by Taiwanese themselves with UA style antiship rocketry&unmanned water/underwater drones.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    if there will be any firing on CCP’ied China ships in the future, most probably it will be done by Taiwanese themselves

    You are likely right: the empire would prefer to use Taiwan as a battering ram against China, just like it is using Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. Imperial problem is that both are too rotten to be effective battering rams. The US is beginning to realize it now regarding Ukraine, although it is slow on the uptake.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @AnonfromTN


    too rotten to be effective
     
    What should then be said about about the effective genius in charge whom decided to declare that rotten wood as some existential threat for RF and have been fighting it for several years already just for the sake of doing the show?;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @A123
    @AnonfromTN

    It is highly unlikely that there will be firing on PLAN vessels by anyone. CCP strategy is PEACEFUL reunification with Taiwan. Deindustrializating it with an invasion would be a fiasco. Burning the chip industry to the ground would create enmity from the rest of the world.

    The CCP is still reeling in humiliation for its failure to successfully integrate Hong Kong. Problems continue to exist 25 years on. Xi can justifiably blame most of those issues on his predecessors. However, he is interested in a legacy. Ruining CCP prestige with an epic Taiwan catastrophe is definitely on his list of "things to avoid".

    Therefore, the jockeying between the U.S. and China will remain 99%+ economic.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  719. @AnonfromTN
    @sudden death


    if there will be any firing on CCP’ied China ships in the future, most probably it will be done by Taiwanese themselves
     
    You are likely right: the empire would prefer to use Taiwan as a battering ram against China, just like it is using Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. Imperial problem is that both are too rotten to be effective battering rams. The US is beginning to realize it now regarding Ukraine, although it is slow on the uptake.

    Replies: @sudden death, @A123

    too rotten to be effective

    What should then be said about about the effective genius in charge whom decided to declare that rotten wood as some existential threat for RF and have been fighting it for several years already just for the sake of doing the show?;)

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @sudden death


    What should then be said about about the effective genius in charge whom decided to declare that rotten wood as some existential threat for RF
     
    Nobody said that Ukraine is an existential threat. Its puppeteers using it as a mindless tool are. That’s who the RF is fighting.

    Replies: @Beckow

  720. A123 says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    @sudden death


    if there will be any firing on CCP’ied China ships in the future, most probably it will be done by Taiwanese themselves
     
    You are likely right: the empire would prefer to use Taiwan as a battering ram against China, just like it is using Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. Imperial problem is that both are too rotten to be effective battering rams. The US is beginning to realize it now regarding Ukraine, although it is slow on the uptake.

    Replies: @sudden death, @A123

    It is highly unlikely that there will be firing on PLAN vessels by anyone. CCP strategy is PEACEFUL reunification with Taiwan. Deindustrializating it with an invasion would be a fiasco. Burning the chip industry to the ground would create enmity from the rest of the world.

    The CCP is still reeling in humiliation for its failure to successfully integrate Hong Kong. Problems continue to exist 25 years on. Xi can justifiably blame most of those issues on his predecessors. However, he is interested in a legacy. Ruining CCP prestige with an epic Taiwan catastrophe is definitely on his list of “things to avoid”.

    Therefore, the jockeying between the U.S. and China will remain 99%+ economic.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    CCP strategy is PEACEFUL reunification with Taiwan.
     
    Yep, this is correct. But that’s CCP strategy, and it takes two to tango. The US keeps provoking big China into attacking Taiwan. So far without much success, but who knows what happens next? The US provoked the RF to fight Ukraine for many years but succeeded only in 2022.

    Replies: @A123

  721. @sudden death
    @AnonfromTN


    too rotten to be effective
     
    What should then be said about about the effective genius in charge whom decided to declare that rotten wood as some existential threat for RF and have been fighting it for several years already just for the sake of doing the show?;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    What should then be said about about the effective genius in charge whom decided to declare that rotten wood as some existential threat for RF

    Nobody said that Ukraine is an existential threat. Its puppeteers using it as a mindless tool are. That’s who the RF is fighting.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    Ukie partisans here use infantile verbal tricks, feigned misunderstanding, cherrypicking and escapism. It shows their desperation - people in the right don't need to do that.

    They are not interested in a rational discussion or in solving anything. They consciously tried to pull a fast one on Russia, got caught and are losing. By the time it is over they will deny that Nato exists. It adds an insult to the injury, they lack any sense of honor.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  722. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    The interesting, if not brilliant political scientist Francis Fukuyama,

     

    Have a deep distrust of anyone with that label.

    Isn't Fukiyama a famous Neocon? (Perhaps, he has modified his original views here a little?) And woke to boot?

    I wonder what he could mean with regard to Taiwan? Status quo arms supply, or something more...

    I don't think what he is saying makes any sense. Taiwan isn't big enough to make a scalar difference, if it were absorbed.

    That leaves island chain strategy of military containment, which seems to presuppose being willing to fire on Chinese ships, which a quite insane.

    Is Fukiyama this insane?

    Replies: @sudden death, @Mr. Hack

    Have a deep distrust of anyone with that label.

    Deep? Why’s that?

    Isn’t Fukiyama a famous Neocon? (Perhaps, he has modified his original views here a little?) And woke to boot?

    Can’t really attest to whether Fukiyama is woke or not, but understand that he has distanced himself from his earlier self designation of being a part of the neo-con movement. Nobody’s perfect, songbird. 🙂

    I don’t think what he is saying makes any sense. Taiwan isn’t big enough to make a scalar difference, if it were absorbed.

    It does seem to make sense to me on a very basic level. Taiwan has definitely been on a “hands off” status as far as the US is concerned and has been designated so with mutual defense treaties reflecting the US as a main sponsor of its existence. If the mainland were to attack Taiwan, nobody doubts that all hell would break loose. If it were really only a scalar size chunk of real estate in importance, don’t you think that China would have long ago pursued its absorption through military occupation?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Deep? Why’s that?
     
    "Political scientist" seems to be akin to an ideological label. It is not merely someone who thinks differently than I do, but one who wants to engineer the whole world to fit their vision.

    If it were really only a scalar size chunk of real estate in importance, don’t you think that China would have long ago pursued its absorption through military occupation?
     
    No, it was outside their capabilities to begin with. Then when the US normalized relations, the sensible thing was to wait. Development was the priority and Taiwan could be leveraged to help provide for it. Learning lessons from the Chinese periphery and seeking investments and know-how was a big part of mainland development. Into the early '90s, Taiwan had about half the GDP of China.

    The sensible thing to do was to wait. And it still is, at least for a number of years.

    But I was speaking from the outside perspective. Containment is dumb. Because the Chinese are not going to be landing on our shores because we have nukes.

    I think it has more political importance to the Chinese that anything else. They are very concerned about schisms.

    Strategic value from an American perspective genuinely seems like a non-sequitor to me. Obsolete thinking, from before 1945. It is like saying we should have held onto the Philippines or Vietnam.
  723. @A123
    @AnonfromTN

    It is highly unlikely that there will be firing on PLAN vessels by anyone. CCP strategy is PEACEFUL reunification with Taiwan. Deindustrializating it with an invasion would be a fiasco. Burning the chip industry to the ground would create enmity from the rest of the world.

    The CCP is still reeling in humiliation for its failure to successfully integrate Hong Kong. Problems continue to exist 25 years on. Xi can justifiably blame most of those issues on his predecessors. However, he is interested in a legacy. Ruining CCP prestige with an epic Taiwan catastrophe is definitely on his list of "things to avoid".

    Therefore, the jockeying between the U.S. and China will remain 99%+ economic.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    CCP strategy is PEACEFUL reunification with Taiwan.

    Yep, this is correct. But that’s CCP strategy, and it takes two to tango. The US keeps provoking big China into attacking Taiwan. So far without much success, but who knows what happens next? The US provoked the RF to fight Ukraine for many years but succeeded only in 2022.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AnonfromTN


    The US keeps provoking big China into attacking Taiwan. So far without much success, but who knows what happens next?
     
    How would you react if you were attacked by a toothless, geriatric chihuahua?

    Everyone realizes that the current White House occupant is on his last legs, metaphorically and probably physically. While the Veggie-In-Chief may be inflammatory, no one takes his illegitimate regime seriously. Even Netanyahu is ignoring Not-The-President Biden.

    PLAN will take notes on any joint naval exercise, but they will not be baited.

    The US provoked the RF to fight Ukraine for many years but succeeded only in 2022.
     
    The European Empire pushed things over the edge. And, they continue to instigate.

    Merkel was the #1 provocateur. She personally axed the Minsk deal in 2015. After that, you have Scholz continuing Merkel's aggression. He was egged on by Macron. BoJo was also exceedingly unhelpful.

    The good news is that none of these more serious figures -- Merkel, Scholz, Macron, or BoJo -- have substantial access to the Pacific. Two are gone. And, the others cannot provoke Xi as they did Putin.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  724. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    We seem to have had no agent provocateurs here, pretending to be AK's exes.

    @QCIC
    Am not qualified to judge Jared Taylor's Japanese.

    To me, his English sounds fairly normal, even if I can't pinpoint it fully. I think there might be an upper class influence entwined in there. Snootiness, or maybe something largely extinct, rather than lisp. (Though I have heard he is quite polite.)

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The Venn Diagram of topics has completely dissociated. We don’t have any transhumanists on this board now except for one raving idiot.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Mr. XYZ's transhumanism is too moth-eaten. It is always the same old same old, without any whimsy.

    I have wanted AK to come back and explain whether he would want those giant molars Denisovans had, so he could have super-chompers. That and whether he would want the same vasculature as pigs, to cool his brain and prevent it from overheating.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

  725. A123 says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    CCP strategy is PEACEFUL reunification with Taiwan.
     
    Yep, this is correct. But that’s CCP strategy, and it takes two to tango. The US keeps provoking big China into attacking Taiwan. So far without much success, but who knows what happens next? The US provoked the RF to fight Ukraine for many years but succeeded only in 2022.

    Replies: @A123

    The US keeps provoking big China into attacking Taiwan. So far without much success, but who knows what happens next?

    How would you react if you were attacked by a toothless, geriatric chihuahua?

    Everyone realizes that the current White House occupant is on his last legs, metaphorically and probably physically. While the Veggie-In-Chief may be inflammatory, no one takes his illegitimate regime seriously. Even Netanyahu is ignoring Not-The-President Biden.

    PLAN will take notes on any joint naval exercise, but they will not be baited.

    The US provoked the RF to fight Ukraine for many years but succeeded only in 2022.

    The European Empire pushed things over the edge. And, they continue to instigate.

    Merkel was the #1 provocateur. She personally axed the Minsk deal in 2015. After that, you have Scholz continuing Merkel’s aggression. He was egged on by Macron. BoJo was also exceedingly unhelpful.

    The good news is that none of these more serious figures — Merkel, Scholz, Macron, or BoJo — have substantial access to the Pacific. Two are gone. And, the others cannot provoke Xi as they did Putin.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Everyone realizes that the current White House occupant is on his last legs, metaphorically and probably physically. While the Veggie-In-Chief may be inflammatory, no one takes his illegitimate regime seriously.
     
    While nobody takes Alzheimer-in-Chief seriously, everybody realizes that walking dead is just a figurehead. Everybody takes his puppeteers seriously and acts accordingly. Both Putin and Xi bend over backwards to avoid direct confrontation with the US, even though both Russia and China are actively undermining the empire at every turn by non-military means.

    It appears that real rulers of the US are also afraid of direct confrontation. When over-eager vassals in G7 drafted the resolution condemning Russian elections, the US axed it, and the nonentities obeyed (following well-known principle that the boss is always right).

    Still, the Commander of the United States Indo-Pacific Command admiral Aquilino very recently stated that China is preparing to invade Taiwan (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4547637-china-potential-taiwan-invasion-2027-us-admiral-warns/). If that is not a provocation, I don’t know what is.

    Replies: @A123, @A123

  726. @A123
    @AnonfromTN


    The US keeps provoking big China into attacking Taiwan. So far without much success, but who knows what happens next?
     
    How would you react if you were attacked by a toothless, geriatric chihuahua?

    Everyone realizes that the current White House occupant is on his last legs, metaphorically and probably physically. While the Veggie-In-Chief may be inflammatory, no one takes his illegitimate regime seriously. Even Netanyahu is ignoring Not-The-President Biden.

    PLAN will take notes on any joint naval exercise, but they will not be baited.

    The US provoked the RF to fight Ukraine for many years but succeeded only in 2022.
     
    The European Empire pushed things over the edge. And, they continue to instigate.

    Merkel was the #1 provocateur. She personally axed the Minsk deal in 2015. After that, you have Scholz continuing Merkel's aggression. He was egged on by Macron. BoJo was also exceedingly unhelpful.

    The good news is that none of these more serious figures -- Merkel, Scholz, Macron, or BoJo -- have substantial access to the Pacific. Two are gone. And, the others cannot provoke Xi as they did Putin.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Everyone realizes that the current White House occupant is on his last legs, metaphorically and probably physically. While the Veggie-In-Chief may be inflammatory, no one takes his illegitimate regime seriously.

    While nobody takes Alzheimer-in-Chief seriously, everybody realizes that walking dead is just a figurehead. Everybody takes his puppeteers seriously and acts accordingly. Both Putin and Xi bend over backwards to avoid direct confrontation with the US, even though both Russia and China are actively undermining the empire at every turn by non-military means.

    It appears that real rulers of the US are also afraid of direct confrontation. When over-eager vassals in G7 drafted the resolution condemning Russian elections, the US axed it, and the nonentities obeyed (following well-known principle that the boss is always right).

    Still, the Commander of the United States Indo-Pacific Command admiral Aquilino very recently stated that China is preparing to invade Taiwan (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4547637-china-potential-taiwan-invasion-2027-us-admiral-warns/). If that is not a provocation, I don’t know what is.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AnonfromTN


    While nobody takes Alzheimer-in-Chief seriously, everybody realizes that walking dead is just a figurehead. Everybody takes his puppeteers seriously and acts accordingly.
     
    So Netanyahu is obeying the "serious puppeteers"? Nope.

    No international leader is intimidated by the White House occupant's extremely weak regime.


    It appears that real rulers of the US are also afraid of direct confrontation. When over-eager vassals in G7 drafted the resolution condemning Russian elections, the US axed it,

     

    So you agree that the European Empire members of the G7 are the provocateurs, not the U.S.? If so, that is an huge step forward in understanding.

    That the European Empire was not able to push the Veggie-In-Chief is a bit surprising. Usually his team jumps to serve their European masters. I do concede it can be a bit difficult to predict, as there are multiple teams of puppeteers wrangling Not-The-President Biden. I doubt that "afraid" is the correct term. They merely got their strings tangled.



    How would you react if you were attacked by a toothless, geriatric chihuahua?

     

    Still, the Commander of the United States Indo-Pacific Command admiral Aquilino very recently stated that China is preparing to invade Taiwan... If that is not a provocation, I don’t know what is.
     
    Apparently you do not know what a provocation is.

    Actions are much more important than words. A military officer reading a set piece that he may very well disagree with is minimally provocative, if that. There is no sign that the CCP was seriously agitated. They suffered "chihuahua" levels of alarm.

    PEACE 😇

    , @A123
    @AnonfromTN

    More on European Empire agression: (1)


    Michel’s Rosy War Economy

     

    What [Charles Michel, European Council President] wants concretely is EU targets to buy twice as much weapons from European defence producers by 2030; to use the profits from Russian frozen assets to finance weapons purchases for Ukraine; to facilitate financial access for European defence industry, including by issuing a European defence bond and getting the European Investment Bank to add defence purposes to its lending criteria. Michel sells it to us as a way to create jobs and growth. It is to provide more clarity to companies with multi-annual defence contracts to increase their capacities. And by investing in defence industry, the EU is boosting its technology and innovation, a confident Michel reassures us.

     

    Stealing Russian money is much more provocative than mere words. The strong EU wants war, even if they cannot drag their weak U.S. vassal along with the plan.

    Hopefully, upcoming European elections will move their parliament to support peace instead of war.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-council-president-calls-europe-switch-war-economy

    Replies: @Beckow

  727. @sudden death
    @songbird


    seems to presuppose being willing to fire on Chinese ships
     
    Not having thorough navy military knowledge, but judging by current developing events - if there will be any firing on CCP'ied China ships in the future, most probably it will be done by Taiwanese themselves with UA style antiship rocketry&unmanned water/underwater drones.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @songbird

    TBH, I was kind of thinking of drones in the other direction – would create a Chinese advantage in blockading.

  728. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    The Venn Diagram of topics has completely dissociated. We don't have any transhumanists on this board now except for one raving idiot.

    Replies: @songbird

    Mr. XYZ’s transhumanism is too moth-eaten. It is always the same old same old, without any whimsy.

    I have wanted AK to come back and explain whether he would want those giant molars Denisovans had, so he could have super-chompers. That and whether he would want the same vasculature as pigs, to cool his brain and prevent it from overheating.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Is overheating a factor?

    I thought the chip implant was more efficient than meat stuff and far less heat is generated by the organism when they outsource their thinking to the cloud.

    My dentist had never heard about Kanye West's titanium grill. He was amazed. He said "the guy has a house in his mouth?" Dentists are going to do fine in the barter economy.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @QCIC
    @songbird

    XYZ is a troll. If you don't ask him about unladen swallows things will be fine.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Well, what exactly do you want me to do to make my transhumanism better?

    Replies: @songbird

  729. @AnonfromTN
    @sudden death


    What should then be said about about the effective genius in charge whom decided to declare that rotten wood as some existential threat for RF
     
    Nobody said that Ukraine is an existential threat. Its puppeteers using it as a mindless tool are. That’s who the RF is fighting.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Ukie partisans here use infantile verbal tricks, feigned misunderstanding, cherrypicking and escapism. It shows their desperation – people in the right don’t need to do that.

    They are not interested in a rational discussion or in solving anything. They consciously tried to pull a fast one on Russia, got caught and are losing. By the time it is over they will deny that Nato exists. It adds an insult to the injury, they lack any sense of honor.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    they lack any sense of honor.
     
    Sense of honor is for the winners. Losers can’t afford it.

    Ukie partisans here use infantile verbal tricks, feigned misunderstanding, cherrypicking and escapism.
     
    Primitive verbal tricks of Ukie-lovers are too transparent for anyone with IQ>80 even to debunk them. As to those with IQ<80, they will always be pro-Ukie due to lack of intelligence. We should be compassionate to those unfortunates. Stupidity is as crippling as the absence of a limb.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

  730. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Mr. XYZ's transhumanism is too moth-eaten. It is always the same old same old, without any whimsy.

    I have wanted AK to come back and explain whether he would want those giant molars Denisovans had, so he could have super-chompers. That and whether he would want the same vasculature as pigs, to cool his brain and prevent it from overheating.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    Is overheating a factor?

    I thought the chip implant was more efficient than meat stuff and far less heat is generated by the organism when they outsource their thinking to the cloud.

    My dentist had never heard about Kanye West’s titanium grill. He was amazed. He said “the guy has a house in his mouth?” Dentists are going to do fine in the barter economy.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I thought the chip implant was more efficient than meat stuff
     
    Guess it depends on what it does. Think the brain uses a lot less energy than LLMs. But if it is just some kind of neuralink interface, maybe heat wouldn't be an issue.

    I was thinking about Steve Hsu's old argument that intelligence will be selected on the same order as grass was turned into modern corn. Whether rightly or wrongly, that makes me imagine impossibly big heads.

    Speaking personally, would like something added to the mouth to prevent needing to go to the dentist.

    Replies: @QCIC

  731. Battle of the Nations
    Spain Romania

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    Halep is back from her drugs suspension.

  732. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    Ukie partisans here use infantile verbal tricks, feigned misunderstanding, cherrypicking and escapism. It shows their desperation - people in the right don't need to do that.

    They are not interested in a rational discussion or in solving anything. They consciously tried to pull a fast one on Russia, got caught and are losing. By the time it is over they will deny that Nato exists. It adds an insult to the injury, they lack any sense of honor.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    they lack any sense of honor.

    Sense of honor is for the winners. Losers can’t afford it.

    Ukie partisans here use infantile verbal tricks, feigned misunderstanding, cherrypicking and escapism.

    Primitive verbal tricks of Ukie-lovers are too transparent for anyone with IQ>80 even to debunk them. As to those with IQ<80, they will always be pro-Ukie due to lack of intelligence. We should be compassionate to those unfortunates. Stupidity is as crippling as the absence of a limb.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    It is indeed crippling, they had a dream and it turned into a nightmare. In the past compassion was reserved for people with some honor. It is still possible to lose honorably for the Ukies, all they have to do is admit the truth: they tried to get Nato into Ukraine and it failed...lying about it is just pathetic.

    , @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Of course comrade. Only a fool would question the wise dwarf's genius invasion.

    Day 756 of the 2.5 week special operation and pro-Ukraine Russians are fighting pro-Putin Russians in Russian territory.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaunSQetBog

    Everything is clearly going as planned and anyone opposed to the war must be a big dumb stupidhead.

    NATO has expanded East and Russians are fighting Russians.

    Clearly a huge success.

  733. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Have a deep distrust of anyone with that label.
     
    Deep? Why's that?

    Isn’t Fukiyama a famous Neocon? (Perhaps, he has modified his original views here a little?) And woke to boot?
     
    Can't really attest to whether Fukiyama is woke or not, but understand that he has distanced himself from his earlier self designation of being a part of the neo-con movement. Nobody's perfect, songbird. :-)

    I don’t think what he is saying makes any sense. Taiwan isn’t big enough to make a scalar difference, if it were absorbed.
     
    It does seem to make sense to me on a very basic level. Taiwan has definitely been on a "hands off" status as far as the US is concerned and has been designated so with mutual defense treaties reflecting the US as a main sponsor of its existence. If the mainland were to attack Taiwan, nobody doubts that all hell would break loose. If it were really only a scalar size chunk of real estate in importance, don't you think that China would have long ago pursued its absorption through military occupation?

    Replies: @songbird

    Deep? Why’s that?

    “Political scientist” seems to be akin to an ideological label. It is not merely someone who thinks differently than I do, but one who wants to engineer the whole world to fit their vision.

    If it were really only a scalar size chunk of real estate in importance, don’t you think that China would have long ago pursued its absorption through military occupation?

    No, it was outside their capabilities to begin with. Then when the US normalized relations, the sensible thing was to wait. Development was the priority and Taiwan could be leveraged to help provide for it. Learning lessons from the Chinese periphery and seeking investments and know-how was a big part of mainland development. Into the early ’90s, Taiwan had about half the GDP of China.

    The sensible thing to do was to wait. And it still is, at least for a number of years.

    But I was speaking from the outside perspective. Containment is dumb. Because the Chinese are not going to be landing on our shores because we have nukes.

    I think it has more political importance to the Chinese that anything else. They are very concerned about schisms.

    Strategic value from an American perspective genuinely seems like a non-sequitor to me. Obsolete thinking, from before 1945. It is like saying we should have held onto the Philippines or Vietnam.

  734. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    they lack any sense of honor.
     
    Sense of honor is for the winners. Losers can’t afford it.

    Ukie partisans here use infantile verbal tricks, feigned misunderstanding, cherrypicking and escapism.
     
    Primitive verbal tricks of Ukie-lovers are too transparent for anyone with IQ>80 even to debunk them. As to those with IQ<80, they will always be pro-Ukie due to lack of intelligence. We should be compassionate to those unfortunates. Stupidity is as crippling as the absence of a limb.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    It is indeed crippling, they had a dream and it turned into a nightmare. In the past compassion was reserved for people with some honor. It is still possible to lose honorably for the Ukies, all they have to do is admit the truth: they tried to get Nato into Ukraine and it failed…lying about it is just pathetic.

  735. A123 says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Everyone realizes that the current White House occupant is on his last legs, metaphorically and probably physically. While the Veggie-In-Chief may be inflammatory, no one takes his illegitimate regime seriously.
     
    While nobody takes Alzheimer-in-Chief seriously, everybody realizes that walking dead is just a figurehead. Everybody takes his puppeteers seriously and acts accordingly. Both Putin and Xi bend over backwards to avoid direct confrontation with the US, even though both Russia and China are actively undermining the empire at every turn by non-military means.

    It appears that real rulers of the US are also afraid of direct confrontation. When over-eager vassals in G7 drafted the resolution condemning Russian elections, the US axed it, and the nonentities obeyed (following well-known principle that the boss is always right).

    Still, the Commander of the United States Indo-Pacific Command admiral Aquilino very recently stated that China is preparing to invade Taiwan (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4547637-china-potential-taiwan-invasion-2027-us-admiral-warns/). If that is not a provocation, I don’t know what is.

    Replies: @A123, @A123

    While nobody takes Alzheimer-in-Chief seriously, everybody realizes that walking dead is just a figurehead. Everybody takes his puppeteers seriously and acts accordingly.

    So Netanyahu is obeying the “serious puppeteers”? Nope.

    No international leader is intimidated by the White House occupant’s extremely weak regime.

    It appears that real rulers of the US are also afraid of direct confrontation. When over-eager vassals in G7 drafted the resolution condemning Russian elections, the US axed it,

    So you agree that the European Empire members of the G7 are the provocateurs, not the U.S.? If so, that is an huge step forward in understanding.

    That the European Empire was not able to push the Veggie-In-Chief is a bit surprising. Usually his team jumps to serve their European masters. I do concede it can be a bit difficult to predict, as there are multiple teams of puppeteers wrangling Not-The-President Biden. I doubt that “afraid” is the correct term. They merely got their strings tangled.

    How would you react if you were attacked by a toothless, geriatric chihuahua?

    Still, the Commander of the United States Indo-Pacific Command admiral Aquilino very recently stated that China is preparing to invade Taiwan… If that is not a provocation, I don’t know what is.

    Apparently you do not know what a provocation is.

    Actions are much more important than words. A military officer reading a set piece that he may very well disagree with is minimally provocative, if that. There is no sign that the CCP was seriously agitated. They suffered “chihuahua” levels of alarm.

    PEACE 😇

  736. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Is overheating a factor?

    I thought the chip implant was more efficient than meat stuff and far less heat is generated by the organism when they outsource their thinking to the cloud.

    My dentist had never heard about Kanye West's titanium grill. He was amazed. He said "the guy has a house in his mouth?" Dentists are going to do fine in the barter economy.

    Replies: @songbird

    I thought the chip implant was more efficient than meat stuff

    Guess it depends on what it does. Think the brain uses a lot less energy than LLMs. But if it is just some kind of neuralink interface, maybe heat wouldn’t be an issue.

    I was thinking about Steve Hsu’s old argument that intelligence will be selected on the same order as grass was turned into modern corn. Whether rightly or wrongly, that makes me imagine impossibly big heads.

    Speaking personally, would like something added to the mouth to prevent needing to go to the dentist.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Why use clunky hardware and buggy software when you can do it yourself?

    Train your brain to process in many time slices along your world-line all at one. All the capability of the unused 90% of your brain is available to you. The enhancement factor is your lifespan divided by the average mental calculation time, let's say one second. So call it ~ 10^9, an improvement factor of a billion.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

  737. @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke


    You spend half your time on here calling out Russians as natural slaves.
     
    Simple question: if the people who participate in elections are slaves, what term should we use for the people who were denied elections and did not even protest this, like Ukies? While various swear words in many languages are applicable, please try to suggest a school-appropriate term.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Simple question: if the people who participate in elections are slaves, what term should we use for the people who were denied elections and did not even protest this, like Ukies?

    Which election are you referring to exactly? It’s normal in Europe to delay elections when under invasion.

    Oh and speaking of elections your dwarf hero was caught cheating:

    No one and not even you believes that Russia has a democracy.

    The world will see that video and not your pathetic PR wall of text with made-up numbers from the dwarf palace.

    Just as the world saw Russians hauling away a fucking toy train when they where looting.

    World opinion is that Russians are losers and Putin is their bitter dwarf king.

    CHOO CHOO

    Maybe you can ask CNN and Daily Mail to stop running these videos that make Russians look like total losers. Good luck.

  738. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    they lack any sense of honor.
     
    Sense of honor is for the winners. Losers can’t afford it.

    Ukie partisans here use infantile verbal tricks, feigned misunderstanding, cherrypicking and escapism.
     
    Primitive verbal tricks of Ukie-lovers are too transparent for anyone with IQ>80 even to debunk them. As to those with IQ<80, they will always be pro-Ukie due to lack of intelligence. We should be compassionate to those unfortunates. Stupidity is as crippling as the absence of a limb.

    Replies: @Beckow, @John Johnson

    Of course comrade. Only a fool would question the wise dwarf’s genius invasion.

    Day 756 of the 2.5 week special operation and pro-Ukraine Russians are fighting pro-Putin Russians in Russian territory.

    Everything is clearly going as planned and anyone opposed to the war must be a big dumb stupidhead.

    NATO has expanded East and Russians are fighting Russians.

    Clearly a huge success.

  739. I must confess that I greatly underestimated the role of village idiots in my comment #647. In fact, JJ, XYZ, and some others serve as a litmus test. If you get a reaction to your post from these personages, especially several reactions, usually with links to various fakes or to comments of other clueless morons, it means that you hit a nerve, really caused strong displeasure of libtards and other pro-imperial propagandists of dumber variety. You feel that you hit a bullseye, which adds to your satisfaction. So, my heartfelt thanks to trolls and morons of all stripes!

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    JoJo is hitting the ceiling, it is now a full-blown hysteria. He should have stopped at dwarf...Daily Mail 'videos'? Wow, and "CNN". Heavy stuff.

    I once saw two busloads of bored "students" assembled in front of an empty Parliament building, a green screen was put up, they yelled, screamed slogans, and waved placards for about 2 minutes. Then a break and one more take. Not sure when it was used, but if they don't have thousands of these videos handy, they are not doing their jobs.

    There must some among the brilliant Ukraine-in-Nato-project planners going through a similar mental collapse. Maybe they should just go to Vegas already...

  740. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    The results of Ukie shelling of Belgorod region in the last week.
    Murdered – 11 civilians (including a 16-year old girl).
    Wounded – 84 civilians.
     
    And how do you know these were not misfired Russian rockets or air defences?

    You know that Russians were shooting into Kharkiv and destroying downtown Kharkiv from Belgorod first. Did you think the Ukrainians would not shoot back at the ones shooting at them? Perhaps you should have condemned rather than supported Putin’s attack on Ukraine, with its tragic consequences for both Ukraine and Russia.

    The results of Russian elections:
    Participation – >72% (a record turnout for Russia; higher than the turnout ever recorded in any self-appointed “democratic” country).
    Vote for Putin – 87.28%
     
    Gullible AnoninTN believes those numbers. Even the 99% or whatever in Chechnya.

    Our former host has a great thread about Russian election fakery which he compares to Central Asian levels:



    https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1769507932759044242?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    Gullible AnoninTN believes those numbers. Even the 99% or whatever in Chechnya.

    ROFLMAO!!! That you write that proves , for about the 8 trillionth time, what a fantasist lying POS you are who has NEVER visited Ukraine or Russia. It defies belief that a retard as yourself could have any connection to Galicia and write such shameless nonsense.

    The story of inbred f**ktard Galician plankton in elections since 1991 is literally “99% or whatever” voting you serial fantasist dumbf**k. Even more hilariously, like no other place on the planet it’s completely unbelievable in history to have one person be voted 95% AGAINST in one presidential election, then for the next election have the same set plankton vote 95% FOR the same candidate……as is the story of Galician khokhol voting with Kravchuk, then Kuchma, Timoshenko etc!!

    Russian regions of 404 at least always showed some level of sofistication in their voting. Its completely normal for people to vote for somebody from their region or who particularly represents the business interests of that region ( as has happened with the Donbass and Dnepropetrovsk clans). Galician bydlo of course have none of that – a parasitic, failed, heavily subsidised by Donbass/Novorossiayn regions for 30 years…..so just voted for whatever candidate Soros or State Department told them to. Giving banderatards the voting ballot is like giving a chimpanzee the controls of a 747.

    Again, highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk – but this ‘vote” happened!! This is not democracy…….this is authoritarian, cretinous shitocracy you idiot.

    As for the legitimate high voting in Chechnya:

    1. Chechnya – the most subsidised region of Russia. Clear major, high standard improvement noticed when visiting there, clear prioritised ahead of other regions…….much higher standard of living than everywhere in 404 outside of Kiev and pre-2014 Donetsk
    2. Region with one of the highest percentages of pensioners – again a solid voting group for the authorities
    3. Voting, by self-definition because of what has happened in the last 30 years with both wars ….is a show of support for President/government – those anti-government often boycott, dead terrorists or exiles

    Ukronazi pussies also urinate themselves throughout the last 2 years and any confrontation with the Chechens. Against Russians it’s different – the high level of death for them is the same but fighting Russians allows them to enjoy their favourite “national” tradition of being a deathcult – against Chechens it is less about deathcult inhibitions lost and more about total fear.

    Again, staggering, that even as a fantasist, you would not even know the history of Galician 90% , 100% voting. And this is voting for failure, incompetent, corrupt scum. In Russia we are voting for proven successful leader.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    The story of inbred f**ktard Galician plankton in elections since 1991 is literally “99% or whatever” voting… voting with Kravchuk, then Kuchma, Timoshenko
     
    You have been gone and disconnected from the former USSR for so long that you’ve forgotten that there are two rounds.

    In the first round, Tymoshenko got less than 40% in Galicia. Indeed, this region had the most competitive politics. Compared to 70%+ in the Donbas oblasts.

    But even in the second round - no Galician province voted over 90% for Tymoshenko:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election


    Again, highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk – but this ‘vote” happened!
     
    Even in the second round Yanukovich got a higher % of votes in Luhansk than Tymoshenko got in Galicia.

    Luhansk: 89% for Yanukovich

    Ivano-Frankivsk: 88.9% for Tymoshenko
    Lviv: 86.2% for Tymoshenko
    Ternopil: 88.4% for Tymoshenko

    First round:

    Luhansk: 71.1% Yanukovich
    Ivano-Frankivsk: 39% Tymoshenko, 25% Yushchenko

    Similar for the other Galician provinces.

    Sovok “engineer” doesn’t know math, as usual.

    ::::::::::

    The Russian election results show better results for Putin in Chechnya than for Yanukovich in Donbas in 2010 LOL.

    As you know, Ukrainians laugh at Chechen soldiers. Call them tic tok warriors.

    Chechens try to avoid Ukrainians and instead kill Russians who try to desert IIRC.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  741. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Mr. XYZ's transhumanism is too moth-eaten. It is always the same old same old, without any whimsy.

    I have wanted AK to come back and explain whether he would want those giant molars Denisovans had, so he could have super-chompers. That and whether he would want the same vasculature as pigs, to cool his brain and prevent it from overheating.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    XYZ is a troll. If you don’t ask him about unladen swallows things will be fine.

  742. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I thought the chip implant was more efficient than meat stuff
     
    Guess it depends on what it does. Think the brain uses a lot less energy than LLMs. But if it is just some kind of neuralink interface, maybe heat wouldn't be an issue.

    I was thinking about Steve Hsu's old argument that intelligence will be selected on the same order as grass was turned into modern corn. Whether rightly or wrongly, that makes me imagine impossibly big heads.

    Speaking personally, would like something added to the mouth to prevent needing to go to the dentist.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Why use clunky hardware and buggy software when you can do it yourself?

    Train your brain to process in many time slices along your world-line all at one. All the capability of the unused 90% of your brain is available to you. The enhancement factor is your lifespan divided by the average mental calculation time, let’s say one second. So call it ~ 10^9, an improvement factor of a billion.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    This not an entirely bad idea. But you omit the feature where you won't be completely miserable in your corporate drone job because that is also a parallel processing unit which burns mega wattage. If your bosses can tell that you are not completely miserable they will get rid of you and replace you with a unit capable of sharing their pain.

    Never do this unless you have a safety fund.

    , @songbird
    @QCIC


    Train your brain to process in many time slices along your world-line all at one.
     
    Epilepsy is sometimes induced by flashing lights. Heard that it has something to do with the neurons in the visual processing center synchronizing. So instead of one or two "leaky" neurons firing and being dampened, you get a whole bunch firing at once in synch with the lights, swamping the ability to dampen them.

    Makes me wonder if you could somehow rapidly train a healthy brain by using some flashing lights or other feedback techniques. Especially, if it was somehow machine assisted.

    The quadriplegic guy who got neuralink seems suprisingly happy. But I guess they probably pre-selected him for his positive attitude.

    BTW, they say he was in a diving accident, which sounds super suspicious to me. I need further details, or I will suspect a dolphin broke his c4, and they are trying to cover it up, to make dolphins look better.

  743. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Why use clunky hardware and buggy software when you can do it yourself?

    Train your brain to process in many time slices along your world-line all at one. All the capability of the unused 90% of your brain is available to you. The enhancement factor is your lifespan divided by the average mental calculation time, let's say one second. So call it ~ 10^9, an improvement factor of a billion.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    This not an entirely bad idea. But you omit the feature where you won’t be completely miserable in your corporate drone job because that is also a parallel processing unit which burns mega wattage. If your bosses can tell that you are not completely miserable they will get rid of you and replace you with a unit capable of sharing their pain.

    Never do this unless you have a safety fund.

  744. @AnonfromTN
    I must confess that I greatly underestimated the role of village idiots in my comment #647. In fact, JJ, XYZ, and some others serve as a litmus test. If you get a reaction to your post from these personages, especially several reactions, usually with links to various fakes or to comments of other clueless morons, it means that you hit a nerve, really caused strong displeasure of libtards and other pro-imperial propagandists of dumber variety. You feel that you hit a bullseye, which adds to your satisfaction. So, my heartfelt thanks to trolls and morons of all stripes!

    Replies: @Beckow

    JoJo is hitting the ceiling, it is now a full-blown hysteria. He should have stopped at dwarf…Daily Mail ‘videos’? Wow, and “CNN”. Heavy stuff.

    I once saw two busloads of bored “students” assembled in front of an empty Parliament building, a green screen was put up, they yelled, screamed slogans, and waved placards for about 2 minutes. Then a break and one more take. Not sure when it was used, but if they don’t have thousands of these videos handy, they are not doing their jobs.

    There must some among the brilliant Ukraine-in-Nato-project planners going through a similar mental collapse. Maybe they should just go to Vegas already…

  745. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Why use clunky hardware and buggy software when you can do it yourself?

    Train your brain to process in many time slices along your world-line all at one. All the capability of the unused 90% of your brain is available to you. The enhancement factor is your lifespan divided by the average mental calculation time, let's say one second. So call it ~ 10^9, an improvement factor of a billion.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    Train your brain to process in many time slices along your world-line all at one.

    Epilepsy is sometimes induced by flashing lights. Heard that it has something to do with the neurons in the visual processing center synchronizing. So instead of one or two “leaky” neurons firing and being dampened, you get a whole bunch firing at once in synch with the lights, swamping the ability to dampen them.

    Makes me wonder if you could somehow rapidly train a healthy brain by using some flashing lights or other feedback techniques. Especially, if it was somehow machine assisted.

    The quadriplegic guy who got neuralink seems suprisingly happy. But I guess they probably pre-selected him for his positive attitude.

    BTW, they say he was in a diving accident, which sounds super suspicious to me. I need further details, or I will suspect a dolphin broke his c4, and they are trying to cover it up, to make dolphins look better.

  746. @Matra
    @songbird


    Have said before that I thought AC Doyle was something of a strange jingoist, being essentially an Irishman in England. This opinion I formed on knowing he wrote an apologia for the Boer War
     
    It's been pretty normal for centuries for people in the British Isles - "these isles" as the Irish say - to move from one to another and identify entirely with the place they were raised. Many of the leading IRA men have English surnames. 'Doyle' was the surname of a number of prominent Ulster Loyalist terrorists in the 1970s. People in Ireland have far more in common with the British than they do with your typical ethnic Irish American so it is normal for them to integrate fully. I don't think AC Doyle is that unusual.

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    Look up General Eric Dorman-Smith.

    Eric O’Gowan.

  747. @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Anatoly Karlin lost his mind in 2023, because Putin didn't Kesslerize space lol.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    That, and because he saw that Russian nationalism’s performance on the battlefield against an ostensibly much weaker foe (even with this foe getting a lot of Western aid) was ultimately extremely unimpressive. He thus, as a true Social Darwinist himself, decided that Superglobalism is the truly superior ideology since it is supported by global elite human capital.

  748. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Mr. XYZ's transhumanism is too moth-eaten. It is always the same old same old, without any whimsy.

    I have wanted AK to come back and explain whether he would want those giant molars Denisovans had, so he could have super-chompers. That and whether he would want the same vasculature as pigs, to cool his brain and prevent it from overheating.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    Well, what exactly do you want me to do to make my transhumanism better?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Well, I am just one person, but I think transhumanism should mainly be used as a vehicle to add humor when talking about HBD and zoology.

    For example, would progressives who don't seem to believe in policing but who are attracted to urban centers be better off modifying their genes to bring back robust bones? How would the fist of someone playing the knockout game fair against a Neanderthal or Abo skull?

  749. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    This is an interesting little tidbit. I doubt she is the prettiest or most accomplished of the contestants, so why did they pick her? Does she get double points for being the tallest?

    Her Japanese doesn't sound quite right though her face seems sincere. I would like to hear her speech in Ukrainian and also one of the Japanese girls saying the same thing.

    Maybe Ihor K. owns the pageant production company?

    Her smile in the cover shot is strange.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Karolina Shaino was born the child of a Japanese father and a Ukrainian mother. Here, in this video clip she can be heard speaking in her native Ukrainian language, reminiscing about her childhood lived in Ukraine. She definitely knows Ukrainian, but it’s obvious that she is a bit rusty probably due to not using the language much now. After all, she states that she thinks and speaks like any other Japanese woman.

    She was the queen for only a short time, as she decided to turn in her crown due to a huge scandal. Apparently, she was having an affair with one of the judges. 🙁

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    It is always something!

    I hope she stays away from the botox.

    Thanks.

  750. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Karolina Shaino was born the child of a Japanese father and a Ukrainian mother. Here, in this video clip she can be heard speaking in her native Ukrainian language, reminiscing about her childhood lived in Ukraine. She definitely knows Ukrainian, but it's obvious that she is a bit rusty probably due to not using the language much now. After all, she states that she thinks and speaks like any other Japanese woman.

    https://youtu.be/fycIArEB8Sg

    She was the queen for only a short time, as she decided to turn in her crown due to a huge scandal. Apparently, she was having an affair with one of the judges. :-(

    Replies: @QCIC

    It is always something!

    I hope she stays away from the botox.

    Thanks.

  751. The video by professor Vladimir Brovkin linked below discusses why the US establishment hates Russia. It is a nice introduction focussed on this simple aspect of the conflict. In his view current Ukraine is similar to Russia in the 1990’s and is under the thumb of the USA.

    He misspeaks in several places on technical details and does not touch on some of the more controversial aspects of the problem, but I think it is a good overview.

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  752. @AP
    @Beckow


    …Russian Empire was defeated in Crimea when the French and Brits intervened.

    Are you suggesting they do it again? How long would we be around to enjoy the show
     

    Russia wouldn't go nuclear over French in Crimea. France can reply to nukes with nukes, you know. Russia wouldn't sacrifice Moscow, Peter et. over Crimea.

    But all similarities are far fetched. The West has ignored the obvious Russian regional dominance. Kiev wouldn’t last a month without the Nato support.
     
    Kiev stopped the Russians with minimal Western support (Javelins were helpful but they also used a lot of native Stugnas).

    Without Western support, Kiev's conventional military would have lasted about 6 months to a year, and then there would have been guerilla war, urban combat, and terrorism. It's not easy to occupy 30 million well-armed people. It would have all been a lot bloodier.

    But of course there was zero chance of no Western support. At the very least the Poles would have donated quite a lot.


    Time is on Russia’s side
     
    So you say and wish, in your desperation.

    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it's not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia), Russia has limitations that Kiev doesn't have. Moscow boys are much less willing to fight in Ukraine, than Kiev boys are willing to fight in Ukraine. Thus, the practical discrepancy between populations is much less than the raw population differences. Russia must rely on convicts, volunteers from very poor regions willing to die for the money, etc. This number isn't limitless. Try mass conscripting regular people from Moscow, Nizhni against their will to get their guts blown out in a field outside Kherson and see what happens.

    How are Russia's currency reserves? They are burning through them. How are the oil refineries doing? Russia will lose more of them. Etc. Russia also cannot sustain this war forever.

    So we cannot know who has more time. But it does look like Russia's leaders are more desperate to try to end things sooner. What do they know that we don't?


    The “Free French” numbers you invented are propaganda nonsense
     
    I quoted from Britannica which last I checked is more reliable than you are, and which is probably not a pro-French propaganda outlet.

    When it mattered the Frenchies fought as volunteers with the Nazis in 1941-43
     
    15,000 made no difference. And by 1943, there were already 100,000 Free French forces fighting in Italy.

    300,000 in 1944 did make a difference. They helped liberate France and drive into western Germany.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ, @Sean

    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it’s not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia)

    For predictions about what Russia will do, one needs to be very good at putting oneself in the shoes of Russians, who believe it or not, consider themselves to be the good guys. I think history shows that the sunk cost consideration, fallacy though it my be, is going to be a powerful deterrent over-against withdrawal from Ukraine. Pulling back to within the borders of Russia might well have been feasible or even likely if Russian losses in men to date were negligible. However, such is not the case, and the question Putin or any successor would anticipate the average Russian asking is: ‘all the sacrifice of our boys has been for nothing?’

    From the standpoint of Russia, Ukraine even indirectly backed by the West is not harmless, and this war has shown just how far from being harmless a Ukraine –NATO assemblage is. Russia brought about the threat to the existence of the Russian state by attacking Ukraine? Absolutely Why did Ukraine want to join an anti Russia alliance? Surely not to provoke Russia into invading Ukraine. Both countries wanted to be more completely secure and ended bringing about what they strove to forestall. Ditto Israel, which is doing what it feels has to do, and the idea that leadership change would alter the policy is false. As Mearsheimer says there is no one among the Israeli political or military elite who thinks differently. It is like replacing Putin or Zelensky, which would not make a difference to how Russia or Ukraine acts.

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Replies: @AP
    @Sean


    For predictions about what Russia will do, one needs to be very good at putting oneself in the shoes of Russians, who believe it or not, consider themselves to be the good guys
     
    Maybe so, but they are also getting more sick of the war than they were before. Putin’s popularity in the provinces has declined to Moscow levels (still over 60%, but much lower than before).

    However, such is not the case, and the question Putin or any successor would anticipate the average Russian asking is: ‘all the sacrifice of our boys has been for nothing?’
     
    So far most of the sacrificed have been “losers” such as inmates, desperately poor provincials willing to take the risk for the money, minorities such as Buryats, etc.

    The more pertinent question is whether normal people from places that matter such as not only Moscow but large million-plus cities are going to want to start sacrificing their only sons, their husbands, etc. in some field in Zaporizhia in order to make the previous sacrifice of inmates in those same fields “worth it.”

    Ukraine is constrained in number of soldiers by its smaller population; Russia is constrained by the number of people willing or (in the case of inmates) viably “coerceable” to get their guts ripped apart in some Ukrainian field 1000s of km from home. In terms of soldiers, the two sides are not as lopsidedly mismatched as might appear.

    Replies: @Sean, @Mr. XYZ

  753. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Have you read Junger's war diaries when he was in Paris? He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place. There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn't anything to resist.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow, @Coconuts

    He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place.

    Junger was still a German nationalist, it was the sort of pov they tended to have.

    Like in 1914, in the time of the spikey helmets, they were outraged that the Belgians were shooting at them as they were trying to bring Belgium the gift of Culture.

    Recently I translated a book by a man who knew Junger in Paris during the war, sometimes he gets called the French version of Junger. He publicly pledged himself to collaboration with the ‘Hitlerians’ but was less relaxed about it how it was being received by the wider French public.

    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of ‘beauty as violence’, and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Coconuts


    Junger was still a German nationalist, it was the sort of pov they tended to have.
     
    Fair.

    Gurdjieff cult memoirs of Nazi France also describe it as a pretty cool place. At least some of those folks were not German nationalists. For what that is worth.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Coconuts

    Also after the edit window closed on me I realized I had forgot to mention:

    in the diaries Junger is vague on the subject of all his friends who were arrested and executed after the bomb plot at Hitler. He may have thought the spies were breaking into his apartment and reading his diary while he was out working and partying. It is other writers who supply the details about all his friends getting killed.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @LatW
    @Coconuts


    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of ‘beauty as violence’, and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.
     
    There seems to be a strong subjective element here (but of course the vibe of those times is strongly felt upon his writing as well). Drieu seems to have had some ideological fluctuations (even though he remained faithful to his ideology in the end), he also sounds a bit tormented by what he had gathered from his life experiences (he seems to have had a somewhat of a bohemian lifestyle prior to his conversion to fascism, so his criticism of the modern urban life and the rejection of it can be viewed as reactionary, the longing and fascination with the vitality of the Middle Ages though is something that will resonate with many Europeans, regardless of their life experiences). Of course, he has a poet's soul and thus more sensitive.

    And Jünger socialized with avant-garde and surrealist thinkers in Paris. And some who, while interesting, may have been even more questionable from the point of view of National Socialist ethics. But this is understandable with intellectuals and writers.

    Others, such as Léon Degrelle, seem to have been much more consistent and confident in their political position (him being an intellectual as well, albeit not of the poetic type). Maybe because he, while still an intellectual, is more of a pure warrior type.


    some fascination with doom and suicide
     
    There is also a beautiful and natural acceptance of death in Drieu's essay. I'll quote with your permission (some of the thoughts here are almost pagan sounding and almost reminiscent of Nietzsche's affirmation of life):

    I am not protesting against the passage of time, in the way that vulgar reactionaries and archaists might, but I ask that people admit the fatality of time. For myself, having the gift of recognizing death whenever it makes its presence felt in life never prevents me from joyfully contemplating this mortal blooming. I would wish it were the same for others, because understanding is only complete when it is tempered with bitterness and joy only speaks truthfully to us if it leads to the final tragic masked ball. It is part of human decency and dignity to acknowledge that what begins ends, sparing itself in the process from childish self-deception. Leave to one side the stupid and rigid pride in the idea of progress and return to a more comprehensive philosophy of the seasons. This is both more useful and fitting. It becomes possible to appreciate that at the point where one thing dies, another is reborn.

    Also, hints of archeofuturism:

    Humanity is just as much here as there, in its past as in its present. The future may turn out to be richer in the qualities of the past than the present.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Coconuts

  754. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    There was virtually no Resistance because there wasn’t anything to resist.
     
    As far as I know, Resistance was mostly a fairy tale, invented by French to make them look better despite shameful capitulation of France to Nazis. They even executed Petain after the war to keep up appearances.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    The lesson of Franco Prussian swat or even this Russo Ukie war, a fanatically defended city is very difficult for a modern army to take over.

    Paris avoided being Gaza’ed though.

  755. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Gullible AnoninTN believes those numbers. Even the 99% or whatever in Chechnya.
     
    ROFLMAO!!! That you write that proves , for about the 8 trillionth time, what a fantasist lying POS you are who has NEVER visited Ukraine or Russia. It defies belief that a retard as yourself could have any connection to Galicia and write such shameless nonsense.

    The story of inbred f**ktard Galician plankton in elections since 1991 is literally "99% or whatever" voting you serial fantasist dumbf**k. Even more hilariously, like no other place on the planet it's completely unbelievable in history to have one person be voted 95% AGAINST in one presidential election, then for the next election have the same set plankton vote 95% FOR the same candidate......as is the story of Galician khokhol voting with Kravchuk, then Kuchma, Timoshenko etc!!

    Russian regions of 404 at least always showed some level of sofistication in their voting. Its completely normal for people to vote for somebody from their region or who particularly represents the business interests of that region ( as has happened with the Donbass and Dnepropetrovsk clans). Galician bydlo of course have none of that - a parasitic, failed, heavily subsidised by Donbass/Novorossiayn regions for 30 years.....so just voted for whatever candidate Soros or State Department told them to. Giving banderatards the voting ballot is like giving a chimpanzee the controls of a 747.

    Again, highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk - but this 'vote" happened!! This is not democracy.......this is authoritarian, cretinous shitocracy you idiot.

    As for the legitimate high voting in Chechnya:

    1. Chechnya - the most subsidised region of Russia. Clear major, high standard improvement noticed when visiting there, clear prioritised ahead of other regions.......much higher standard of living than everywhere in 404 outside of Kiev and pre-2014 Donetsk
    2. Region with one of the highest percentages of pensioners - again a solid voting group for the authorities
    3. Voting, by self-definition because of what has happened in the last 30 years with both wars ....is a show of support for President/government - those anti-government often boycott, dead terrorists or exiles

    Ukronazi pussies also urinate themselves throughout the last 2 years and any confrontation with the Chechens. Against Russians it's different - the high level of death for them is the same but fighting Russians allows them to enjoy their favourite "national" tradition of being a deathcult - against Chechens it is less about deathcult inhibitions lost and more about total fear.

    Again, staggering, that even as a fantasist, you would not even know the history of Galician 90% , 100% voting. And this is voting for failure, incompetent, corrupt scum. In Russia we are voting for proven successful leader.

    Replies: @AP

    The story of inbred f**ktard Galician plankton in elections since 1991 is literally “99% or whatever” voting… voting with Kravchuk, then Kuchma, Timoshenko

    You have been gone and disconnected from the former USSR for so long that you’ve forgotten that there are two rounds.

    In the first round, Tymoshenko got less than 40% in Galicia. Indeed, this region had the most competitive politics. Compared to 70%+ in the Donbas oblasts.

    But even in the second round – no Galician province voted over 90% for Tymoshenko:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election

    Again, highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk – but this ‘vote” happened!

    Even in the second round Yanukovich got a higher % of votes in Luhansk than Tymoshenko got in Galicia.

    Luhansk: 89% for Yanukovich

    Ivano-Frankivsk: 88.9% for Tymoshenko
    Lviv: 86.2% for Tymoshenko
    Ternopil: 88.4% for Tymoshenko

    First round:

    Luhansk: 71.1% Yanukovich
    Ivano-Frankivsk: 39% Tymoshenko, 25% Yushchenko

    Similar for the other Galician provinces.

    Sovok “engineer” doesn’t know math, as usual.

    ::::::::::

    The Russian election results show better results for Putin in Chechnya than for Yanukovich in Donbas in 2010 LOL.

    As you know, Ukrainians laugh at Chechen soldiers. Call them tic tok warriors.

    Chechens try to avoid Ukrainians and instead kill Russians who try to desert IIRC.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    You have been gone and disconnected from the former USSR for so long
     
    An amusingly, idiotic lie....a bizarre pitiful attempt to reverse my FACTUAL insults about you having zero connection to Russia and 404.

    for so long that you’ve forgotten that there are two rounds.
     
    err.....no, shit-for-brains. That 's just you projecting that you are embarrassed by the contents of my post and have frantically used wikipedia to try and put some instantaneous BS on here - and in the process discovered for yourself about the 2 rounds! Of course I knew that, and of course its completely irrelevant as 2 candidate elections are common across the world......and 5% vs 95% for the candidate is completely abnormal for these other countries you idiot.

    I realise that for subhuman trash as yourself, even making me look at and write the numbers on here is "peremoga", but I will do it anyway:

    1991 elections- Galician provinces/iodine-free zones.....12,14,17% for Kravchuk ( with the subsequent non-Banderatard migration out of Galicia that 13,14,17% is still about 0% with Galician khokhols)

    1994-Galician/iodine........89,91&91% for Kravchuk, 2nd Round....94,94&95% for Kravchuk. Kuchma?.......a massively competitive 4% for all of them.

    OK - new state, this discrepancy for the first 2 elections could be understandable.....but then we get to the next election:

    1999 - 92% in second round all for Kuchma in the galician shitholes. Simonyenko......5%.!!!Lugansk? the voting 53 vs 41%.

    Indeed, this region had the most competitive politics
     
    So in the mind of a mentally deranged, compulsive liar wacko as yourself 92 vs 5 % is "more competitive" than 53 vs 41%???!!!!! LMFAO

    2004 - 89, 87 & 88% for Yushchenko. 2nd (well, that's another, CIA , issue) Round ....96,94 & 96%. That's with Yanu being the best continuity candidate from Kuchma, who they voted 92% for the previous election.... and for all the many problems at that time - in that year the economic growth from low base was particularly high. Again, completely abnormal that Yanukovich could not only lose but be completely uncompetitive in these retard-zones of Galicia......while a total loser as Yushchenko was at North Korea support level.

    2010 - with Timoshenko being a big part of Orange "revolution", then Yushchenko's PM, then him initiating criminal case against her , and with Yanukovich then bringing stability and sanity to Yushchenko's freakshow Orange government, and with many people thinking Timoshenko is more pro-Russian than Yanukovich, and even more interconnected with Russian finance...............in this typically nonsensical, schizofrenik khokhol "masterpiece"........... Galician inbreds vote for her highly in the first round and at 88 & 89% levels in the second!!!

    Even in the second round Yanukovich got a higher % of votes in Luhansk than Tymoshenko got in Galicia.
     
    LMAO - so having read the results - like the autistic fantasist dipshit you are, you shamelessly write this over a discrepancy of 0.08%!!!!! Basic point you cretin is that Yanukovich has personal connection and deep business relation to Donbass ( Donetsk then the wealthiest part of 404) .........Timoshenko has NONE of that to Galicia. Donetsk the most urbanised, industrialised and economic part of 404 -, Galicia the complete opposite .....so its entirely unsurprising through natural and unatural methods of administrative resource for Yanu's results in Donbass - Timoshenko getting the same in Galicia is completely ridiculous, LOL.

    As you know, Ukrainians laugh at Chechen soldiers. Call them tic tok warriors.
     
    Err no . Idiotic BS. Tik tok is though about the only thing Ukronazis can do semi-competently. Although with events today I have zero appetite to discuss this point

    Replies: @AP

  756. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Well, what exactly do you want me to do to make my transhumanism better?

    Replies: @songbird

    Well, I am just one person, but I think transhumanism should mainly be used as a vehicle to add humor when talking about HBD and zoology.

    For example, would progressives who don’t seem to believe in policing but who are attracted to urban centers be better off modifying their genes to bring back robust bones? How would the fist of someone playing the knockout game fair against a Neanderthal or Abo skull?

  757. AP says:
    @Sean
    @AP


    Because this war is not existential for the Russian people (it’s not a Nazi war of extermination and invasion of Russia)
     
    For predictions about what Russia will do, one needs to be very good at putting oneself in the shoes of Russians, who believe it or not, consider themselves to be the good guys. I think history shows that the sunk cost consideration, fallacy though it my be, is going to be a powerful deterrent over-against withdrawal from Ukraine. Pulling back to within the borders of Russia might well have been feasible or even likely if Russian losses in men to date were negligible. However, such is not the case, and the question Putin or any successor would anticipate the average Russian asking is: 'all the sacrifice of our boys has been for nothing?'


    From the standpoint of Russia, Ukraine even indirectly backed by the West is not harmless, and this war has shown just how far from being harmless a Ukraine --NATO assemblage is. Russia brought about the threat to the existence of the Russian state by attacking Ukraine? Absolutely Why did Ukraine want to join an anti Russia alliance? Surely not to provoke Russia into invading Ukraine. Both countries wanted to be more completely secure and ended bringing about what they strove to forestall. Ditto Israel, which is doing what it feels has to do, and the idea that leadership change would alter the policy is false. As Mearsheimer says there is no one among the Israeli political or military elite who thinks differently. It is like replacing Putin or Zelensky, which would not make a difference to how Russia or Ukraine acts.

    Replies: @AP

    For predictions about what Russia will do, one needs to be very good at putting oneself in the shoes of Russians, who believe it or not, consider themselves to be the good guys

    Maybe so, but they are also getting more sick of the war than they were before. Putin’s popularity in the provinces has declined to Moscow levels (still over 60%, but much lower than before).

    However, such is not the case, and the question Putin or any successor would anticipate the average Russian asking is: ‘all the sacrifice of our boys has been for nothing?’

    So far most of the sacrificed have been “losers” such as inmates, desperately poor provincials willing to take the risk for the money, minorities such as Buryats, etc.

    The more pertinent question is whether normal people from places that matter such as not only Moscow but large million-plus cities are going to want to start sacrificing their only sons, their husbands, etc. in some field in Zaporizhia in order to make the previous sacrifice of inmates in those same fields “worth it.”

    Ukraine is constrained in number of soldiers by its smaller population; Russia is constrained by the number of people willing or (in the case of inmates) viably “coerceable” to get their guts ripped apart in some Ukrainian field 1000s of km from home. In terms of soldiers, the two sides are not as lopsidedly mismatched as might appear.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @AP


    Russia is constrained by the number of people willing or (in the case of inmates) viably “coerceable” to get their guts ripped apart in some Ukrainian field 1000s of km from home.
     
    It was. Ukraine got a taste of success and didn't take General Milly's advice to cut a deal from their zenith of advantage of over a year ago. Even in war men will join the army to improve their status and finance and while I agree those are not enough, Russia had trouble equipping its troops with modern rifles helmets and flack jackets so they probably have had good practical reasons of training and equipment availability to not to fully draw on their population to create new regular formations. The convicts were a stopgap and the taking of Bakhmut was profligate in its use of them; those conscripted from civilian life would now by no means be heading to certain death.

    The Kremlin spokesman's announcement the other day that Russia is in a state of war rather than an SMO probably signals that it now has production and military infrastructure to create effective new formations for what is planned to be a long campaign. The Russians have deployed ever larger FAB bombs against the heavy Ukrainian fortifications, as seen it its relatively rapid taking of Avdiivka, and their targeting of high value Ukrainian equipment in the rear area is rapidly improving. I think there is going to be a fuller mobilisation declared by Putin to coincide with the begining of a lengthy offensive with new troops coming on stream at the critical point. The objective will be to destroy the Ukrainian army's counter-attack capability by writing down its elite units, which are being withdrawn to preserve them by Kiev.

    The Russians have finally figured it out, they are still ponderous but they are all about mass effect which they are getting; rising above the bathetically disorganised SMO mode they started in, their army is begining to work effectively. Ukraine is going to have its work cut out for it to survive as independent country in the coming years.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    The more pertinent question is whether normal people from places that matter such as not only Moscow but large million-plus cities are going to want to start sacrificing their only sons, their husbands, etc. in some field in Zaporizhia in order to make the previous sacrifice of inmates in those same fields “worth it.”

     

    Objectively speaking, conquering Ukraine likely won't be much of a win for Russia even if Russia will be magically successful at doing this due to the likely fact that many, if not most, of the smart and young Ukrainians will emigrate in such a scenario, thus mostly leaving only the seniors (who require financial assistance) and the lower-average-IQ Sovoks. The smart and young Ukrainians largely won't be willing to live in a Russian-ruled (or Russian puppet-ruled) Ukraine, especially once it will become clear that an anti-Russian insurgency or mass protest movement is likely not going to succeed ousting the Russians from Ukraine if the Russians ever do magically succeed in conquering Ukraine. The EU would welcome any Ukrainians who will want to flee Ukraine in such a scenario with open arms.
  758. First pig-kidney transplant in a living person:

    https://www.livescience.com/health/surgery/pig-kidney-transplanted-into-human-patient-for-1st-time-ever

    Would not want to be on dialysis, but guy is still taking immunosuppressants though, so I guess it still has a Frankenstein aspect. Will it become kosher?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Too early to say. It will all depend on how successful this first operation and others following it turn out. If it could add another 10 years of life, even if you would need to take some immunosuppressants too, wouldn't you do it if you were in such a situation?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Since eating non-kosher food is apparently OK if the alternative is starving to death or even becoming (severely) malnourished, Yes, I do think that this would be kosher.

  759. @Coconuts
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place.
     
    Junger was still a German nationalist, it was the sort of pov they tended to have.

    Like in 1914, in the time of the spikey helmets, they were outraged that the Belgians were shooting at them as they were trying to bring Belgium the gift of Culture.

    Recently I translated a book by a man who knew Junger in Paris during the war, sometimes he gets called the French version of Junger. He publicly pledged himself to collaboration with the 'Hitlerians' but was less relaxed about it how it was being received by the wider French public.

    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of 'beauty as violence', and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    Junger was still a German nationalist, it was the sort of pov they tended to have.

    Fair.

    Gurdjieff cult memoirs of Nazi France also describe it as a pretty cool place. At least some of those folks were not German nationalists. For what that is worth.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    What exactly did the Gurdieff cult members find to be so attractive about France during WWII? Could there have been a lively transcendental meditation scene going on there, or just the warm afterglow of croissants and Parisian coffee? A little known fact is that the catchy tune "Katyusha" was quite popular in Paris during and after the war. My 92 year old roommate tells me that it was heard everywhere on the streets even (its often said that the popularity of this song reached the top of the charts in the 1960's).

    https://www.masterandmargarita.eu/mobile/media/katyusha.ogg

  760. @Coconuts
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place.
     
    Junger was still a German nationalist, it was the sort of pov they tended to have.

    Like in 1914, in the time of the spikey helmets, they were outraged that the Belgians were shooting at them as they were trying to bring Belgium the gift of Culture.

    Recently I translated a book by a man who knew Junger in Paris during the war, sometimes he gets called the French version of Junger. He publicly pledged himself to collaboration with the 'Hitlerians' but was less relaxed about it how it was being received by the wider French public.

    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of 'beauty as violence', and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    Also after the edit window closed on me I realized I had forgot to mention:

    in the diaries Junger is vague on the subject of all his friends who were arrested and executed after the bomb plot at Hitler. He may have thought the spies were breaking into his apartment and reading his diary while he was out working and partying. It is other writers who supply the details about all his friends getting killed.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    ...in the diaries Junger is vague on the subject of all his friends who were arrested and executed after the bomb plot at Hitler.
     
    I think for some time after summer 1940 French society was stunned and it took a while for the pre-war feuds and divisions to re-emerge in the new context the Germans had created. French anti-German feeling dated back a long way into the 19th century.

    Junger is known for keeping his distance from National Socialism and avoiding Nazi attempts to get him to associate with them, often I've seen him described as a leading figure in the non-Nazi 'German Conservative Revolution' movement from between the wars.
  761. A123 says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Everyone realizes that the current White House occupant is on his last legs, metaphorically and probably physically. While the Veggie-In-Chief may be inflammatory, no one takes his illegitimate regime seriously.
     
    While nobody takes Alzheimer-in-Chief seriously, everybody realizes that walking dead is just a figurehead. Everybody takes his puppeteers seriously and acts accordingly. Both Putin and Xi bend over backwards to avoid direct confrontation with the US, even though both Russia and China are actively undermining the empire at every turn by non-military means.

    It appears that real rulers of the US are also afraid of direct confrontation. When over-eager vassals in G7 drafted the resolution condemning Russian elections, the US axed it, and the nonentities obeyed (following well-known principle that the boss is always right).

    Still, the Commander of the United States Indo-Pacific Command admiral Aquilino very recently stated that China is preparing to invade Taiwan (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4547637-china-potential-taiwan-invasion-2027-us-admiral-warns/). If that is not a provocation, I don’t know what is.

    Replies: @A123, @A123

    More on European Empire agression: (1)

    Michel’s Rosy War Economy

    What [Charles Michel, European Council President] wants concretely is EU targets to buy twice as much weapons from European defence producers by 2030; to use the profits from Russian frozen assets to finance weapons purchases for Ukraine; to facilitate financial access for European defence industry, including by issuing a European defence bond and getting the European Investment Bank to add defence purposes to its lending criteria. Michel sells it to us as a way to create jobs and growth. It is to provide more clarity to companies with multi-annual defence contracts to increase their capacities. And by investing in defence industry, the EU is boosting its technology and innovation, a confident Michel reassures us.

    Stealing Russian money is much more provocative than mere words. The strong EU wants war, even if they cannot drag their weak U.S. vassal along with the plan.

    Hopefully, upcoming European elections will move their parliament to support peace instead of war.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-council-president-calls-europe-switch-war-economy

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123

    EU is trying to steal the Russian money, but in a round-about way: 'profits-only', issue bonds against it, etc...It will not work, the lawyers will be busy for years and at the end Russia will get its money unless they lose the war. Issuing bonds against confiscated property is a bad idea. When you steal, it is better to just take it.

    West has perfected indirect thefts but in this case it would undermine the financial system. EU is trying to provoke Russia into a response and confiscate the Western assets.

    EU froze $280 billion in financial assets: legally deposits and bonds. Russia can take the Western investments - between 200-800 billion in real assets: natural resources, factories, real estate, etc...Then the West would probably reciprocate and take the Russian oligarchs' assets. And then the courts.

    The consequences would be messy and potentially catastrophic: it would be in courts for decades and the global finance would freeze up. That's why EU hasn't done anything yet. If they do it - even partially - it could unravel the system we currently have. A huge win for BRICKS, something they could not have dreamt about 5 years ago. But I suppose having Nato in Ukraine was all worth it...

  762. @songbird
    First pig-kidney transplant in a living person:

    https://www.livescience.com/health/surgery/pig-kidney-transplanted-into-human-patient-for-1st-time-ever

    Would not want to be on dialysis, but guy is still taking immunosuppressants though, so I guess it still has a Frankenstein aspect. Will it become kosher?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    Too early to say. It will all depend on how successful this first operation and others following it turn out. If it could add another 10 years of life, even if you would need to take some immunosuppressants too, wouldn’t you do it if you were in such a situation?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    We need an orthodox rabbi for this one.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Too early to say
     
    I think this is why they are building those pig buildings in China, where pigs spend their whole life indoors, moved from room to room and floor to floor, always tracked but in a segregated way, in small groups, to prevent disease.

    If it could add another 10 years of life, even if you would need to take some immunosuppressants too, wouldn’t you do it if you were in such a situation?
     
    I don't know. I am very wary of immunosuppressants. And I think the medical establishment prescribes them too readily in a lot of cases. Knew someone who died because of it.

    There's a horror aspect to it too, in certain situations. Like face and eye transplants. It feels like they are just doing it because they can, and it has a snowball's chance in hell of actually working because that is not how the body is meant to work - with a suppressed immune system.

    Maybe, they are necessary in this situation. I don't know the guy's personal story, or what the operation cost him. And I guess there is always room for the technology to expand, to the point where immuno-suppresants wouldn't be needed.

    But another thing I don't like about modern medicine is it seems built around squeezing money out of old people. Like, if you are old, and your heart stops - you probably don't want them to resuscitate because it is basically a lie. It doesn't work. It usually takes about ten minutes in an old person and usually there is severe damage to the brain and other organs, so it creates moaning vegetables. It's just a way to extract money.

    A more moral society would try to pass the wealth on in the family, to help bring new life into the world. But ours is intent on rent-seeking. Giving the elderly rides to dialysis in ambulances and charging $1000 to go half a mile. This is one of the big corruptions of American politics.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  763. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Too early to say. It will all depend on how successful this first operation and others following it turn out. If it could add another 10 years of life, even if you would need to take some immunosuppressants too, wouldn't you do it if you were in such a situation?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    We need an orthodox rabbi for this one.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Perhaps the science behind it all will develop so that even cow kidneys might be used? For the vegetarians, "beyond meat" made from soy?

    https://www.cartoonstock.com/cartoon?searchID=CS571859

  764. @A123
    @AnonfromTN

    More on European Empire agression: (1)


    Michel’s Rosy War Economy

     

    What [Charles Michel, European Council President] wants concretely is EU targets to buy twice as much weapons from European defence producers by 2030; to use the profits from Russian frozen assets to finance weapons purchases for Ukraine; to facilitate financial access for European defence industry, including by issuing a European defence bond and getting the European Investment Bank to add defence purposes to its lending criteria. Michel sells it to us as a way to create jobs and growth. It is to provide more clarity to companies with multi-annual defence contracts to increase their capacities. And by investing in defence industry, the EU is boosting its technology and innovation, a confident Michel reassures us.

     

    Stealing Russian money is much more provocative than mere words. The strong EU wants war, even if they cannot drag their weak U.S. vassal along with the plan.

    Hopefully, upcoming European elections will move their parliament to support peace instead of war.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-council-president-calls-europe-switch-war-economy

    Replies: @Beckow

    EU is trying to steal the Russian money, but in a round-about way: ‘profits-only’, issue bonds against it, etc…It will not work, the lawyers will be busy for years and at the end Russia will get its money unless they lose the war. Issuing bonds against confiscated property is a bad idea. When you steal, it is better to just take it.

    West has perfected indirect thefts but in this case it would undermine the financial system. EU is trying to provoke Russia into a response and confiscate the Western assets.

    EU froze $280 billion in financial assets: legally deposits and bonds. Russia can take the Western investments – between 200-800 billion in real assets: natural resources, factories, real estate, etc…Then the West would probably reciprocate and take the Russian oligarchs’ assets. And then the courts.

    The consequences would be messy and potentially catastrophic: it would be in courts for decades and the global finance would freeze up. That’s why EU hasn’t done anything yet. If they do it – even partially – it could unravel the system we currently have. A huge win for BRICKS, something they could not have dreamt about 5 years ago. But I suppose having Nato in Ukraine was all worth it…

  765. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Coconuts


    Junger was still a German nationalist, it was the sort of pov they tended to have.
     
    Fair.

    Gurdjieff cult memoirs of Nazi France also describe it as a pretty cool place. At least some of those folks were not German nationalists. For what that is worth.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    What exactly did the Gurdieff cult members find to be so attractive about France during WWII? Could there have been a lively transcendental meditation scene going on there, or just the warm afterglow of croissants and Parisian coffee? A little known fact is that the catchy tune “Katyusha” was quite popular in Paris during and after the war. My 92 year old roommate tells me that it was heard everywhere on the streets even (its often said that the popularity of this song reached the top of the charts in the 1960’s).

  766. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    We need an orthodox rabbi for this one.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Perhaps the science behind it all will develop so that even cow kidneys might be used? For the vegetarians, “beyond meat” made from soy?

    https://www.cartoonstock.com/cartoon?searchID=CS571859

  767. Apex Predator Showdown: Orca v Great White Shark

    (Orca wins)

    reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/1bklnxc/apex_predator_showdown_orca_v_great_white_shark/

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It is kind of funny how a lot of people thought sharks were harmless before this:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Shore_shark_attacks_of_1916

    Recife Brazil used to be a popular place for attacks as it had a slaughterhouse nearby.

    Great whites have big livers. A lot to eat. But it is still funny how orcas treat them like a bear treats salmon (eating the brains and disgarding the rest) or a fox might treat a chicken.

    Many predators will just kill everything they can and then just eat the most nutritious part, to save time and effort.

  768. Interestingly, the new Alien film is written and directed by Uruguayans:

    [MORE]

    Am not sure whether they have any Amerind or not. Could go either way. Never saw their stuff before, the director got his start on YouTube, which is fascinating.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Romulus

    But Aliens is dead to me, as I really didn’t enjoy Prometheus. Never saw the sequel.

    My instinct is not to like dark-looking movies.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    It just dawned on me that this franchise is 50% foley.

    Replies: @songbird

  769. @songbird
    Interestingly, the new Alien film is written and directed by Uruguayans:

    https://youtu.be/GTNMt84KT0k?si=qWR38vQtNHfQh7xI

    Am not sure whether they have any Amerind or not. Could go either way. Never saw their stuff before, the director got his start on YouTube, which is fascinating.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Romulus

    But Aliens is dead to me, as I really didn't enjoy Prometheus. Never saw the sequel.

    My instinct is not to like dark-looking movies.

    Replies: @QCIC

    It just dawned on me that this franchise is 50% foley.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    Some might go ~66.6% crud, like Terminator, and that is not including the Alien vs. Predator movies.

    I think every successful franchise approaches or exceeds Sturgeon's Law as time goes by.

    With the movie Aliens, part of the secret was that Cameron and Stan Winston were both fairly young (as well as talented). It is kind of amazing to see them using trash-bags and broomsticks, before they worked out how to do the alien creatures.

    Also, while there was proto-wokeness: feminist heroine, black non-com (played by an actor who was actually in the marines and probably a seargent). It wasn't that offensive, except maybe for the butch lesbian Latina . Check the date, but I am pretty sure Cameron got the amnesty-push message.

    They'd have to go more woke today, probably. Like make the black guy the captain or a scientist.

    My memory of 3 is very vague, as I saw it ages ago. I remember thinking maybe it wasn't quite as bad as some people said, but then I probably based that just on other, more horrible movies.

  770. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Too early to say. It will all depend on how successful this first operation and others following it turn out. If it could add another 10 years of life, even if you would need to take some immunosuppressants too, wouldn't you do it if you were in such a situation?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    Too early to say

    I think this is why they are building those pig buildings in China, where pigs spend their whole life indoors, moved from room to room and floor to floor, always tracked but in a segregated way, in small groups, to prevent disease.

    [MORE]

    If it could add another 10 years of life, even if you would need to take some immunosuppressants too, wouldn’t you do it if you were in such a situation?

    I don’t know. I am very wary of immunosuppressants. And I think the medical establishment prescribes them too readily in a lot of cases. Knew someone who died because of it.

    There’s a horror aspect to it too, in certain situations. Like face and eye transplants. It feels like they are just doing it because they can, and it has a snowball’s chance in hell of actually working because that is not how the body is meant to work – with a suppressed immune system.

    Maybe, they are necessary in this situation. I don’t know the guy’s personal story, or what the operation cost him. And I guess there is always room for the technology to expand, to the point where immuno-suppresants wouldn’t be needed.

    But another thing I don’t like about modern medicine is it seems built around squeezing money out of old people. Like, if you are old, and your heart stops – you probably don’t want them to resuscitate because it is basically a lie. It doesn’t work. It usually takes about ten minutes in an old person and usually there is severe damage to the brain and other organs, so it creates moaning vegetables. It’s just a way to extract money.

    A more moral society would try to pass the wealth on in the family, to help bring new life into the world. But ours is intent on rent-seeking. Giving the elderly rides to dialysis in ambulances and charging $1000 to go half a mile. This is one of the big corruptions of American politics.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    it creates moaning vegetables. It’s just a way to extract money.
     
    I couldn't agree with you any more. The US is full of "moaning vegetables" whose only function is to help fill the coffers of willing medical practitioners. The problem is that modern medicine seems to be mostly based around the process of fixing symptoms with pharmaceutical drugs (another cash cow), instead of teaching people how to avoid illness through diet, exercise and supplements (not much money to be made from hawking vitamins, etc).

    Giving the elderly rides to dialysis in ambulances and charging $1000 to go half a mile.
     
    Well, most folks on dialysis usually visit their clinics by having a family member or a personal aide drive them to the facility. Also, a large cottage industry has formed of vans that specialize in driving the needy to their appointments, paid for by medicare or medicaid programs. So paying $1,000 per ride is certainly an exaggeration.

    Replies: @songbird

  771. @QCIC
    @songbird

    It just dawned on me that this franchise is 50% foley.

    Replies: @songbird

    Some might go ~66.6% crud, like Terminator, and that is not including the Alien vs. Predator movies.

    [MORE]

    I think every successful franchise approaches or exceeds Sturgeon’s Law as time goes by.

    With the movie Aliens, part of the secret was that Cameron and Stan Winston were both fairly young (as well as talented). It is kind of amazing to see them using trash-bags and broomsticks, before they worked out how to do the alien creatures.

    Also, while there was proto-wokeness: feminist heroine, black non-com (played by an actor who was actually in the marines and probably a seargent). It wasn’t that offensive, except maybe for the butch lesbian Latina . Check the date, but I am pretty sure Cameron got the amnesty-push message.

    They’d have to go more woke today, probably. Like make the black guy the captain or a scientist.

    My memory of 3 is very vague, as I saw it ages ago. I remember thinking maybe it wasn’t quite as bad as some people said, but then I probably based that just on other, more horrible movies.

  772. Russia may be converting the SMO to an actual war. The following points seem related.

    — More serious attacks on Kharkov infrastructure as well as heavier aerial bomb attacks in various places.

    — Dmitry Peskov appears to be socializing the idea that this is now a war. I don’t know if Russia has publicly announced this change in legal terms. Peskov’s comments may be a trial balloon to learn if Russians are willing to accept more public aspects of martial law. The Ukrainian attacks on Russian infrastructure probably makes this palatable. A true war status will weaken fifth columnists. It will also pressure oligarchs who have dragged their feet supporting the SMO in the hope it would blow over.

    — Announcement of mass production of FAB-3000 bombs. This is a very large bomb, over 6000 pounds. I don’t know what Ukrainian targets would be suited for this weapon.

    +++

    Bombing the infrastructure of Kharkov may set some things in motion. As the remaining civilians flee in all directions, the Ukrainians will have a fresh choice to either capitulate or see Kharkov ending up like Bakhmut or Grozny. If the Russians are starting to favor aerial bombardment, the increment of damage changes from 60 kilogram artillery shells to bombs between 500 and 3000 kilos. I think the Russians have a conundrum in that they really want to take Kharkov and they really do not want to level it. However, the same is true for Kiev but Kharkov is very close to the border. In the medium case (not the worst, not the best) Kharkov might be leveled in the hope of ultimately preserving Kiev.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...Russians have a conundrum in that they really want to take Kharkov and they really do not want to level it.
     
    It was the same with Mariupol and Avdeevka. Russians are not going to give in, they are reluctant (probably sincerely) but they will do it. They came to a conclusion that if they show weakness or compassion they will be destroyed or cheated by the West.

    Westie morons flew to Kiev again to tell Zelko that the younger Ukies must be mobilized and if needed to die (Graham). They offered money for blood. Maybe people who said that the goal was to depopulate Ukraine were right.

    Russia will go as far as they can militarily. The latest steps - bombing, saying it is a war, assembling 100k's of fresh troops - suggests a push. Making it "costly" will not change the outcome. It is above al extremely costly for the Ukies, they will end up as a 10-15 million landlocked neutral rump-state incapable of threatening Russia, with nice folklore and deep regrets. Something tells me that Zelko won't stick around for that.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    These are payback for the oil refinery attacks. Not necessarily escalation. The boss told the Ukrainians to cut it out with the oil refinery attacks.

    These are all rumors but the attacks on the power grid were factual.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Kharkov is going to be processed.

    This will snap the regime of the Jew King in Kiev.

    Replies: @QCIC

  773. @Coconuts
    @Dmitry


    The government of the Republic of Ireland are probably less leftwing, compared to ROI’s population. Irish people can be the most leftwing believing population in the world in some ways. It could be economically lucky they have “cynical representatives of international capitalism”, instead of someone like Lula.
     
    For some reason I associate this with the Sinn Fein faction in Irish politics. Afaik while this sort of radicalism has always existed, Ireland has never tried to establish an economic socialist regime. The most that has been attempted is more like a variant of Social Catholicism, something like that.

    On a topic like immigration some of the Irish left-wingers may hold what have become right-wing positions, whereas the elite have become more open borders, which is now also the typical left-wing position.

    To learn the history of the British islands is complicated and above my knowledge, but to write in the idiots’ way, compared to the Celtic nationalities, populations created more by later Aryan invaders had a greater proportion of land owning during the historical stage of feudalism...
     
    The wealthiest areas of England in the South East do seem to have the highest levels of Germanic ancestry when they do studies of Anglo-Saxon era remains. In some ways they seem to resemble other Germanic areas of Europe like the Netherlands and Germany itself, which are also more developed economically than the Celtic areas of Britain. I'm not sure what the explanation of this is, is it cultural, or economic as you outline here, or racial as has been argued in the past.

    This is one of the reasons the French authorities are reluctant to allow studies of the genetics of Norman cemeteries, to avoid restarting this sort of debate.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    The wealthiest areas of England

    I have been living in Netherlands. It’s a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities’ design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.

    Some things in the city planning can be related. When those cities are constructed, there was maybe the mutual history of England and Netherlands the 17th and 18th century in the development of capitalism and imperialism.

    I don’t know if you can agree with me these kind of cities are similar?

    The buildings which are before the 19th century, are from a similar architecture school and Netherlands-England city planning is not so different before the 19th century.

    Ireland has never tried to establish an economic socialist regime. The most that has been attempted is more like a variant of Social Catholicism, something like that.

    Politics of Ireland can also be more influenced by the Catholic victim culture and internationalism.

    Even some of the ROI’s “cynical capitalist” political culture today to be outsourcing government to international organizations is not only divergent to the historical Catholic path outsourcing authority to the Pope.

    There is a significant difference today compared to Great Britain in terms of the right-left distribution of the ordinary population. You can guess Geert Wilders could be popular in England, you couldn’t imagine Geert Wilders in ROI. If Conor McGregor begins a political career soon, he would probably go to the USA where he could have attained more mainstream political support.

    Germanic areas of Europe like the Netherlands and Germany itself, which are also more developed economically than the Celtic areas of Britain.

    Netherlands’ culture is more functional than England. the working class and upper class people.

    England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn’t have this upper class. But the average city in the Netherlands is more civilized.

    It’s like the transport and bicycle fashions which is for norma peoplel in the Netherlands, is the culture of upper class hipster areas in England.

    • Replies: @S1
    @Dmitry


    I have been living in Netherlands. It’s a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities’ design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.
     
    Yes, that's quite true. I've often found myself greatly impressed by how very similar (for the many obvious reasons) the Dutch and English are to each other.

    Below is a 1969 video from Netherlands television of the Dutch band 'Shocking Blue'. The three male band members shown could all easily pass as English. Some written Dutch language appears in the video, and is quite close to English. Even the 'country' song they are performing, 'Mighty Joe', probably targeting a US audience, has at least some of it's origins in Britain.

    https://youtu.be/KP8ojGKsJFk?si=tketLzD3RDndwoyp

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Coconuts
    @Dmitry


    I have been living in Netherlands. It’s a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities’ design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.

    Some things in the city planning can be related. When those cities are constructed, there was maybe the mutual history of England and Netherlands the 17th and 18th century in the development of capitalism and imperialism.
     
    I was in Amsterdam recently and I noticed this, even more recently built housing estates seemed to resemble some of the ones in Britain, just with what looks like better quality construction.

    I remember some years ago looking at this book when it came out:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Going-Dutch-England-Plundered-Hollands/dp/0007197349/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.QrtCmhXeUYG4_PdBpC9q1QuNdbj31Cl4Df5mdE0L5Iyf2sVIEOPh2Ti0IirDCUnw.5FPuII7KTgDC8ruDb8ytHZb6R5IdhVgb8AJ4Gfq0IgM&dib_tag=se&keywords=lisa+jardine+going+dutch&qid=1711185209&sr=8-1

    It describes some of the cultural contacts in the 17th century.

    England famously ended up with a Dutch king following the Glorious Revolution in 1688, who came to protect the English middle classes (it's often described in this way). England had a long history of involvement with the Netherlands even by then.


    There is a significant difference today compared to Great Britain in terms of the right-left distribution of the ordinary population. You can guess Geert Wilders could be popular in England, you couldn’t imagine Geert Wilders in ROI. If Conor McGregor begins a political career soon, he would probably go to the USA where he could have attained more mainstream political support.
     
    In Britain the right-wing, in the form of the conservative party, has historically been much stronger. I am not sure what the nearest Irish equivalent would be, Fine Gael? But people like Wilders and McGregor would probably be popular in my own region of the UK as well, where since the early part of the 20th century until the 2010s the vast majority always voted for the left-wing and a lot of people would be favourable to socialism.

    There has been this realignment happening in politics, where wealthy people and the establishment supports the left as much as the right, and people who used to vote solidly for the left might support right-populist figures like Nigel Farage. Their economic views really conflict but they are attracted to them for other reasons.

    England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn’t have this upper class. But the average city in the Netherlands is more civilized.
     
    I would agree with this. Amsterdam and the surrounding area seemed attractive from an aspirational point of view, like it was more developed than my own part of the UK.

    Dutch is quite an attractive language, it can sound like extreme West Country or 'Yokel' English dialects. In the UK these would be associated with rustic populations and low socio-economic and educational status, but in the case of Dutch the opposite is the case which makes it interesting.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  774. @QCIC
    Russia may be converting the SMO to an actual war. The following points seem related.

    --- More serious attacks on Kharkov infrastructure as well as heavier aerial bomb attacks in various places.

    --- Dmitry Peskov appears to be socializing the idea that this is now a war. I don't know if Russia has publicly announced this change in legal terms. Peskov's comments may be a trial balloon to learn if Russians are willing to accept more public aspects of martial law. The Ukrainian attacks on Russian infrastructure probably makes this palatable. A true war status will weaken fifth columnists. It will also pressure oligarchs who have dragged their feet supporting the SMO in the hope it would blow over.

    --- Announcement of mass production of FAB-3000 bombs. This is a very large bomb, over 6000 pounds. I don't know what Ukrainian targets would be suited for this weapon.

    +++

    Bombing the infrastructure of Kharkov may set some things in motion. As the remaining civilians flee in all directions, the Ukrainians will have a fresh choice to either capitulate or see Kharkov ending up like Bakhmut or Grozny. If the Russians are starting to favor aerial bombardment, the increment of damage changes from 60 kilogram artillery shells to bombs between 500 and 3000 kilos. I think the Russians have a conundrum in that they really want to take Kharkov and they really do not want to level it. However, the same is true for Kiev but Kharkov is very close to the border. In the medium case (not the worst, not the best) Kharkov might be leveled in the hope of ultimately preserving Kiev.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke

    …Russians have a conundrum in that they really want to take Kharkov and they really do not want to level it.

    It was the same with Mariupol and Avdeevka. Russians are not going to give in, they are reluctant (probably sincerely) but they will do it. They came to a conclusion that if they show weakness or compassion they will be destroyed or cheated by the West.

    Westie morons flew to Kiev again to tell Zelko that the younger Ukies must be mobilized and if needed to die (Graham). They offered money for blood. Maybe people who said that the goal was to depopulate Ukraine were right.

    Russia will go as far as they can militarily. The latest steps – bombing, saying it is a war, assembling 100k’s of fresh troops – suggests a push. Making it “costly” will not change the outcome. It is above al extremely costly for the Ukies, they will end up as a 10-15 million landlocked neutral rump-state incapable of threatening Russia, with nice folklore and deep regrets. Something tells me that Zelko won’t stick around for that.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Russia will go as far as they can militarily.
     
    I have no idea what Putin planned in 2022, but now the RF authorities are locked in, essentially trapped: after deadly Ukie attacks and terrorist acts on the RF territory, >80% of the RF residents won’t settle for anything less than unconditional capitulation of Ukraine (and any additional combatant country stupid enough to intervene directly: that’s what the US and Germany fear).

    I don’t think that Russian troops will bomb and storm any major city. Capitulation of the current Kiev regime would make it unnecessary. Before capitulation the clown will be assassinated by the locals or (if he is lucky) run away to his puppeteers in the hope to keep his loot (he used stolen money to acquire villas in several countries; if he manages to escape, he won’t go hungry).

    I don’t know what are Putin’s plans after Ukraine capitulation. He tends to follow the wishes of the populace in most cases. The majority in the RF is against absorbing the whole thing because it would mean giving the people there the same costly social guarantees that the RF citizens get (pensions, healthcare, education, etc.) plus huge rebuilding costs. My guess is that the RF will absorb the Black sea coast (Nikolaev and Odessa regions, thus getting direct connection with Transnistria that begged to be accepted into the RF for many years) and some additional regions in the east (maybe Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, I don’t know what else) and creating a demilitarized state out of the remainder of the corpse with wholly dependent government and a few Russian military bases on its territory. Kind of “Goblin reservation” (using Simak’s term). It will refuse responsibility for the debts of the current regime, get limited Russian investments, and develop a lot slower than the parts absorbed by the RF. I am ~99% sure that Putin (or his successor) will make sure than Poland and Romania get nothing. Hungary might get that little strip of Transcarpathia populated by Hungarians.

    Will see what transpires in the next 1-2 years. We’ll also see what countries are stupid enough to get under the bus along with current Ukraine.

    Replies: @Beckow

  775. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Too early to say
     
    I think this is why they are building those pig buildings in China, where pigs spend their whole life indoors, moved from room to room and floor to floor, always tracked but in a segregated way, in small groups, to prevent disease.

    If it could add another 10 years of life, even if you would need to take some immunosuppressants too, wouldn’t you do it if you were in such a situation?
     
    I don't know. I am very wary of immunosuppressants. And I think the medical establishment prescribes them too readily in a lot of cases. Knew someone who died because of it.

    There's a horror aspect to it too, in certain situations. Like face and eye transplants. It feels like they are just doing it because they can, and it has a snowball's chance in hell of actually working because that is not how the body is meant to work - with a suppressed immune system.

    Maybe, they are necessary in this situation. I don't know the guy's personal story, or what the operation cost him. And I guess there is always room for the technology to expand, to the point where immuno-suppresants wouldn't be needed.

    But another thing I don't like about modern medicine is it seems built around squeezing money out of old people. Like, if you are old, and your heart stops - you probably don't want them to resuscitate because it is basically a lie. It doesn't work. It usually takes about ten minutes in an old person and usually there is severe damage to the brain and other organs, so it creates moaning vegetables. It's just a way to extract money.

    A more moral society would try to pass the wealth on in the family, to help bring new life into the world. But ours is intent on rent-seeking. Giving the elderly rides to dialysis in ambulances and charging $1000 to go half a mile. This is one of the big corruptions of American politics.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    it creates moaning vegetables. It’s just a way to extract money.

    I couldn’t agree with you any more. The US is full of “moaning vegetables” whose only function is to help fill the coffers of willing medical practitioners. The problem is that modern medicine seems to be mostly based around the process of fixing symptoms with pharmaceutical drugs (another cash cow), instead of teaching people how to avoid illness through diet, exercise and supplements (not much money to be made from hawking vitamins, etc).

    Giving the elderly rides to dialysis in ambulances and charging $1000 to go half a mile.

    Well, most folks on dialysis usually visit their clinics by having a family member or a personal aide drive them to the facility. Also, a large cottage industry has formed of vans that specialize in driving the needy to their appointments, paid for by medicare or medicaid programs. So paying $1,000 per ride is certainly an exaggeration.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    of fixing symptoms with pharmaceutical drugs (another cash cow),
     
    It is common to go to the doctors and see a pharmaceutical rep bringing them lunches.

    supplements (not much money to be made from hawking vitamins, etc).
     
    I recall hearing that multivitamins don't seem to increase lifespan. But perhaps, they can still help quality of life?

    It seems like we really live in an age where it is easier to gather and share data, but a lot of medical journals use paywalls, even though they are funded by tax dollars and private grants, and a lot of the science is bad.

    So paying $1,000 per ride is certainly an exaggeration
     
    It does exist to a certain extent. Have read of it. But also recall hearing directly about a bad case of a relative, though I may forget the exact price

    It involved a trip either from the hospital to rehab or the other way around. There was no street. It was different buildings in the same lot. And it was done with an ambulance and cost like $500.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  776. @Emil Nikola Richard
    Apex Predator Showdown: Orca v Great White Shark

    (Orca wins)

    reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/1bklnxc/apex_predator_showdown_orca_v_great_white_shark/

    Replies: @songbird

    It is kind of funny how a lot of people thought sharks were harmless before this:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Shore_shark_attacks_of_1916

    Recife Brazil used to be a popular place for attacks as it had a slaughterhouse nearby.

    Great whites have big livers. A lot to eat. But it is still funny how orcas treat them like a bear treats salmon (eating the brains and disgarding the rest) or a fox might treat a chicken.

    Many predators will just kill everything they can and then just eat the most nutritious part, to save time and effort.

  777. @QCIC
    Russia may be converting the SMO to an actual war. The following points seem related.

    --- More serious attacks on Kharkov infrastructure as well as heavier aerial bomb attacks in various places.

    --- Dmitry Peskov appears to be socializing the idea that this is now a war. I don't know if Russia has publicly announced this change in legal terms. Peskov's comments may be a trial balloon to learn if Russians are willing to accept more public aspects of martial law. The Ukrainian attacks on Russian infrastructure probably makes this palatable. A true war status will weaken fifth columnists. It will also pressure oligarchs who have dragged their feet supporting the SMO in the hope it would blow over.

    --- Announcement of mass production of FAB-3000 bombs. This is a very large bomb, over 6000 pounds. I don't know what Ukrainian targets would be suited for this weapon.

    +++

    Bombing the infrastructure of Kharkov may set some things in motion. As the remaining civilians flee in all directions, the Ukrainians will have a fresh choice to either capitulate or see Kharkov ending up like Bakhmut or Grozny. If the Russians are starting to favor aerial bombardment, the increment of damage changes from 60 kilogram artillery shells to bombs between 500 and 3000 kilos. I think the Russians have a conundrum in that they really want to take Kharkov and they really do not want to level it. However, the same is true for Kiev but Kharkov is very close to the border. In the medium case (not the worst, not the best) Kharkov might be leveled in the hope of ultimately preserving Kiev.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke

    These are payback for the oil refinery attacks. Not necessarily escalation. The boss told the Ukrainians to cut it out with the oil refinery attacks.

    These are all rumors but the attacks on the power grid were factual.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    These are payback for the oil refinery attacks.
     
    These are payback for Belgorod attacks. The boss did not tell Ukie servants yet to stop targeting RF territory altogether. Stay tuned.
  778. England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn’t have this upper class.

    When I spent time in the NL in the 1990s there were a lot of cases of fancy German cars being defaced and some times the perpetrators themselves turned out to be fairly wealthy. Presumably they saw the fancy car owners as crass vulgarians who needed to brought down a peg. So maybe their upper class is just less showy – Calvinist legacy? – than the mostly nouveau riche of present-day England?

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Matra

    I think England has also a caste-system structure compared to Netherlands.

    If you removed the socioeconomically top 10% and bottom 40% of the population of England, the culture would be more similar to Netherlands.

    It's maybe if you created a new country using only middle class English people, without upper class and working class. The new middle class only country which would be more like the Netherlands?


    upper class is just less showy – Calvinist legacy? – than the mostly nouveau riche of present-day England?
     
    Expensive cars and mansions is also part of the vieux riche tradition of England, it's not only oligarchs from Moscow and Riyadh although they could be of the Lamborghinis' owners in London. The upper class in Russia believe they are following the example of the upper class of England.

    A lot of the international car culture was created by English land owners.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwood_Festival_of_Speed#History

    -

    I guess the vieux riche in Netherlands are more descended from protestant capitalists who lived in cities. In England, vieux riche were generally becoming land owners, who lived until the 20th century in agricultural area mansions with hundreds of servants.

    Replies: @AP

  779. @songbird
    @Dmitry

    She does appear thinner without the baggy clothes.

    Forget who it was, but I recall hearing someone make the observation that Japanese high school boys are prototypically wiry-looking. I.e. neither bulky (very muscular) or fat. I would say that it seems strikingly true.

    Because of the seeming universality of it within Japan, it is tempting to attribute it to genetic factors. Also because there has been heavy genetic selection for diet and metabolism in nearly every group. But it could be that Japanese culture is very regimented, and this has the bigger influence.

    I was recently reading a book written by an American who worked for Ghibli - technically the conglomerate to which it belongs. And he was talking about the big company events they had, where there would be different speakers from different divisions, giving news. And he mentioned that typically they would seat a 16 y.o. pop idol next to him, which would make him lose his concentration when trying to speak Japanese. And I was thinking - wow, I don't think he would have admitted that, if he hadn't spent years in Japan, but had been in America instead, where the feminist culture is stronger and it would be much more taboo to say something like that.

    I wish different governments collected more data about people's habits. I would especially like to know how foreigners in all these different countries might be influenced. Like, would they be fatter on some of these Pacific islands?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    genetic selection for diet

    Maybe for the agriculture diet of the 19th century peasants. 21st century humans are not very genetically selected for some aspects of the 21st century dietary patterns in the developed, industrialized countries like having unlimited food and our cupboard full of bags of potato chips.

    She said her height is 186 cm.

    Average calories eaten by woman in Japan are 1700 calories, which is lower even than some developing countries like India.

    So, for someone with this height, to become overweight, she would need to be significantly divergent from the most common dietary pattern of people in her country. Culture pressure probably explains why those people from Japan with non-Japanese origin would have lower body fat than people from their ancestral countries.

    The puzzle is why the culture overall is different in relation to food compared to most industrialized societies.

    wish different governments collected more data about people’s habits. I would especially like to know how foreigners in all these different countries might be influenced.

    The culture pressure would be probably to eat the normal diet which has lower calories. Also to use the normal transportation, which has more energy expenditure in Japan compared to the USA.

    There is 10x difference, in rates of female obesity between the USA and Japan, which is unexpected if you consider both countries have the same economic level, modernization and industrialization processes in the 20th century.

    Japan’s obesity rate is a lot closer to Ethiopia and Uganda in still much earlier stages of history, while the historical modernization level is like Texas or Illinois.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Dmitry


    Maybe for the agriculture diet of the 19th century peasants.
     
    The 19th century diet, while poor by modern standards, was still dramatically different (and in some ways richer) than the historic agricultural diet, before the Columbian Exchange.

    Jared Diamond believes that potatoes and the calorie surplus from trade with the New World caused an epidemic of Type 2 diabetes in Europeans back then, shifting allele frequencies, as it reduces fertility by a lot. If he is right, it may be that the potato blunted the edge off of rice (which she a very high glycemic index.)

    OTOH, they are getting fatter in Indonesia. Would guess that means also the Javanese, and I would think their old diet was traditionally pretty similar to Japan.
  780. @AP
    @Sean


    For predictions about what Russia will do, one needs to be very good at putting oneself in the shoes of Russians, who believe it or not, consider themselves to be the good guys
     
    Maybe so, but they are also getting more sick of the war than they were before. Putin’s popularity in the provinces has declined to Moscow levels (still over 60%, but much lower than before).

    However, such is not the case, and the question Putin or any successor would anticipate the average Russian asking is: ‘all the sacrifice of our boys has been for nothing?’
     
    So far most of the sacrificed have been “losers” such as inmates, desperately poor provincials willing to take the risk for the money, minorities such as Buryats, etc.

    The more pertinent question is whether normal people from places that matter such as not only Moscow but large million-plus cities are going to want to start sacrificing their only sons, their husbands, etc. in some field in Zaporizhia in order to make the previous sacrifice of inmates in those same fields “worth it.”

    Ukraine is constrained in number of soldiers by its smaller population; Russia is constrained by the number of people willing or (in the case of inmates) viably “coerceable” to get their guts ripped apart in some Ukrainian field 1000s of km from home. In terms of soldiers, the two sides are not as lopsidedly mismatched as might appear.

    Replies: @Sean, @Mr. XYZ

    Russia is constrained by the number of people willing or (in the case of inmates) viably “coerceable” to get their guts ripped apart in some Ukrainian field 1000s of km from home.

    It was. Ukraine got a taste of success and didn’t take General Milly’s advice to cut a deal from their zenith of advantage of over a year ago. Even in war men will join the army to improve their status and finance and while I agree those are not enough, Russia had trouble equipping its troops with modern rifles helmets and flack jackets so they probably have had good practical reasons of training and equipment availability to not to fully draw on their population to create new regular formations. The convicts were a stopgap and the taking of Bakhmut was profligate in its use of them; those conscripted from civilian life would now by no means be heading to certain death.

    The Kremlin spokesman’s announcement the other day that Russia is in a state of war rather than an SMO probably signals that it now has production and military infrastructure to create effective new formations for what is planned to be a long campaign. The Russians have deployed ever larger FAB bombs against the heavy Ukrainian fortifications, as seen it its relatively rapid taking of Avdiivka, and their targeting of high value Ukrainian equipment in the rear area is rapidly improving. I think there is going to be a fuller mobilisation declared by Putin to coincide with the begining of a lengthy offensive with new troops coming on stream at the critical point. The objective will be to destroy the Ukrainian army’s counter-attack capability by writing down its elite units, which are being withdrawn to preserve them by Kiev.

    The Russians have finally figured it out, they are still ponderous but they are all about mass effect which they are getting; rising above the bathetically disorganised SMO mode they started in, their army is begining to work effectively. Ukraine is going to have its work cut out for it to survive as independent country in the coming years.

  781. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...Russians have a conundrum in that they really want to take Kharkov and they really do not want to level it.
     
    It was the same with Mariupol and Avdeevka. Russians are not going to give in, they are reluctant (probably sincerely) but they will do it. They came to a conclusion that if they show weakness or compassion they will be destroyed or cheated by the West.

    Westie morons flew to Kiev again to tell Zelko that the younger Ukies must be mobilized and if needed to die (Graham). They offered money for blood. Maybe people who said that the goal was to depopulate Ukraine were right.

    Russia will go as far as they can militarily. The latest steps - bombing, saying it is a war, assembling 100k's of fresh troops - suggests a push. Making it "costly" will not change the outcome. It is above al extremely costly for the Ukies, they will end up as a 10-15 million landlocked neutral rump-state incapable of threatening Russia, with nice folklore and deep regrets. Something tells me that Zelko won't stick around for that.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Russia will go as far as they can militarily.

    I have no idea what Putin planned in 2022, but now the RF authorities are locked in, essentially trapped: after deadly Ukie attacks and terrorist acts on the RF territory, >80% of the RF residents won’t settle for anything less than unconditional capitulation of Ukraine (and any additional combatant country stupid enough to intervene directly: that’s what the US and Germany fear).

    I don’t think that Russian troops will bomb and storm any major city. Capitulation of the current Kiev regime would make it unnecessary. Before capitulation the clown will be assassinated by the locals or (if he is lucky) run away to his puppeteers in the hope to keep his loot (he used stolen money to acquire villas in several countries; if he manages to escape, he won’t go hungry).

    I don’t know what are Putin’s plans after Ukraine capitulation. He tends to follow the wishes of the populace in most cases. The majority in the RF is against absorbing the whole thing because it would mean giving the people there the same costly social guarantees that the RF citizens get (pensions, healthcare, education, etc.) plus huge rebuilding costs. My guess is that the RF will absorb the Black sea coast (Nikolaev and Odessa regions, thus getting direct connection with Transnistria that begged to be accepted into the RF for many years) and some additional regions in the east (maybe Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, I don’t know what else) and creating a demilitarized state out of the remainder of the corpse with wholly dependent government and a few Russian military bases on its territory. Kind of “Goblin reservation” (using Simak’s term). It will refuse responsibility for the debts of the current regime, get limited Russian investments, and develop a lot slower than the parts absorbed by the RF. I am ~99% sure that Putin (or his successor) will make sure than Poland and Romania get nothing. Hungary might get that little strip of Transcarpathia populated by Hungarians.

    Will see what transpires in the next 1-2 years. We’ll also see what countries are stupid enough to get under the bus along with current Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    Capitulation of the current Kiev regime would make it unnecessary.
     
    Sure, but they are not going to capitulate. They may be overthrown or run away - that's the way it happens usually - but it is too late for any deal and they won't surrender (Anglos would take away their passports).

    Grinding down the remaining Ukie army inside large cities could take years and lots of destruction. The Nato-ids will also never admit that they were wrong. So it could still get very ugly. Each month the future prospects for Ukraine diminish.

    I agree that Russia won't absorb the landlocked western part of Ukraine. But what are we to do with them? They are on our borders, want stuff, too poor for EU with few resources. A black hole of angry losers constantly regurgitating made-up myths. And all they had to do was agree to the Minsk deal...that deal was actually a betrayal of Donbas and very bad for Russia in the long run. The Westies don't even know how to play the game any more.

    Replies: @A123

  782. Looks like a total massacre going on in Moscow:

    https://twitter.com/MDeLaBroc1/status/1771236171399516351

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Matra


    Footage coming out of Moscow is horrific.
     
    There are two viable hypotheses who attacked Krocus City. It’s either Islamic terrorists or Ukie terrorists. Whoever it is will regret it: perpetrators in Hell, their supporters in jail or Hell (depending on their luck).

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Mr. Hack

    , @Dmitry
    @Matra

    I don't want to add to conspiracy theorists that are common here. There is some background Crocus City Hall was like the "Trump Tower" for Emin and his father https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emin_(singer)

    The Trump-Russia conspiracy theory was using a lot about the relationship of Trump and Emin in Moscow, when they worked together to host Miss Universe 2013 in the Crocus City Hall.

    , @Wokechoke
    @Matra

    Looks like Team Johnny Johnson at work.

  783. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    These are payback for the oil refinery attacks. Not necessarily escalation. The boss told the Ukrainians to cut it out with the oil refinery attacks.

    These are all rumors but the attacks on the power grid were factual.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    These are payback for the oil refinery attacks.

    These are payback for Belgorod attacks. The boss did not tell Ukie servants yet to stop targeting RF territory altogether. Stay tuned.

  784. @Matra

    England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn’t have this upper class.
     
    When I spent time in the NL in the 1990s there were a lot of cases of fancy German cars being defaced and some times the perpetrators themselves turned out to be fairly wealthy. Presumably they saw the fancy car owners as crass vulgarians who needed to brought down a peg. So maybe their upper class is just less showy - Calvinist legacy? - than the mostly nouveau riche of present-day England?

    Replies: @Dmitry

    I think England has also a caste-system structure compared to Netherlands.

    If you removed the socioeconomically top 10% and bottom 40% of the population of England, the culture would be more similar to Netherlands.

    It’s maybe if you created a new country using only middle class English people, without upper class and working class. The new middle class only country which would be more like the Netherlands?

    upper class is just less showy – Calvinist legacy? – than the mostly nouveau riche of present-day England?

    Expensive cars and mansions is also part of the vieux riche tradition of England, it’s not only oligarchs from Moscow and Riyadh although they could be of the Lamborghinis’ owners in London. The upper class in Russia believe they are following the example of the upper class of England.

    A lot of the international car culture was created by English land owners.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwood_Festival_of_Speed#History

    I guess the vieux riche in Netherlands are more descended from protestant capitalists who lived in cities. In England, vieux riche were generally becoming land owners, who lived until the 20th century in agricultural area mansions with hundreds of servants.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Dmitry


    It’s maybe if you created a new country using only middle class English people, without upper class and working class. The new middle class only country which would be more like the Netherlands?
     
    These are exactly the people who settled New England. They prevented poor from coming, and discouraged the rich also. Even many of the farmers had been prosperous shopkeepers before leaving England.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

  785. @Matra
    Looks like a total massacre going on in Moscow:

    https://twitter.com/MDeLaBroc1/status/1771236171399516351

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Dmitry, @Wokechoke

    Footage coming out of Moscow is horrific.

    There are two viable hypotheses who attacked Krocus City. It’s either Islamic terrorists or Ukie terrorists. Whoever it is will regret it: perpetrators in Hell, their supporters in jail or Hell (depending on their luck).

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @AnonfromTN

    We could guess, this kind of terrorist attack against ordinary civilians in a concert, is probably Islamist. There were not large terrorist attacks since the metro bombing in Saint-Petersburg in 2017, there were often interrupted Islamist plans for attacks in years like 2020, 2019, 2018.

    Replies: @AP, @AnonfromTN

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN

    What comes around goes around!

  786. @Matra
    Looks like a total massacre going on in Moscow:

    https://twitter.com/MDeLaBroc1/status/1771236171399516351

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Dmitry, @Wokechoke

    I don’t want to add to conspiracy theorists that are common here. There is some background Crocus City Hall was like the “Trump Tower” for Emin and his father https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emin_(singer)

    The Trump-Russia conspiracy theory was using a lot about the relationship of Trump and Emin in Moscow, when they worked together to host Miss Universe 2013 in the Crocus City Hall.

    • Thanks: Matra
  787. @AnonfromTN
    @Matra


    Footage coming out of Moscow is horrific.
     
    There are two viable hypotheses who attacked Krocus City. It’s either Islamic terrorists or Ukie terrorists. Whoever it is will regret it: perpetrators in Hell, their supporters in jail or Hell (depending on their luck).

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Mr. Hack

    We could guess, this kind of terrorist attack against ordinary civilians in a concert, is probably Islamist. There were not large terrorist attacks since the metro bombing in Saint-Petersburg in 2017, there were often interrupted Islamist plans for attacks in years like 2020, 2019, 2018.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Dmitry

    Probably Islamists. As in Israel, where the horrific Oct 7 attack was possible in part because Netanyahu was placing his soldiers to guard illegal settlements in the West Bank rather than Gaza, perhaps if the Russian state wasn’t focused on conquering Ukraine it would have been able to prevent this sort of thing.



    https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1771240938418958800?s=20

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Dmitry


    We could guess, this kind of terrorist attack against ordinary civilians in a concert, is probably Islamist.
     
    Years ago, I might have agreed. However, with repeated Ukie shelling of civilians in Donbass from 2014, as well as in Belgorod this year, I wouldn’t put this crime past them. At a guess, the probability is 50:50. Investigation will reveal who is behind it. I.e., who must be severely punished. If it’s Ukies, I wouldn’t bet a broken penny on the life of the clown or any one of his minions.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  788. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Russia will go as far as they can militarily.
     
    I have no idea what Putin planned in 2022, but now the RF authorities are locked in, essentially trapped: after deadly Ukie attacks and terrorist acts on the RF territory, >80% of the RF residents won’t settle for anything less than unconditional capitulation of Ukraine (and any additional combatant country stupid enough to intervene directly: that’s what the US and Germany fear).

    I don’t think that Russian troops will bomb and storm any major city. Capitulation of the current Kiev regime would make it unnecessary. Before capitulation the clown will be assassinated by the locals or (if he is lucky) run away to his puppeteers in the hope to keep his loot (he used stolen money to acquire villas in several countries; if he manages to escape, he won’t go hungry).

    I don’t know what are Putin’s plans after Ukraine capitulation. He tends to follow the wishes of the populace in most cases. The majority in the RF is against absorbing the whole thing because it would mean giving the people there the same costly social guarantees that the RF citizens get (pensions, healthcare, education, etc.) plus huge rebuilding costs. My guess is that the RF will absorb the Black sea coast (Nikolaev and Odessa regions, thus getting direct connection with Transnistria that begged to be accepted into the RF for many years) and some additional regions in the east (maybe Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, I don’t know what else) and creating a demilitarized state out of the remainder of the corpse with wholly dependent government and a few Russian military bases on its territory. Kind of “Goblin reservation” (using Simak’s term). It will refuse responsibility for the debts of the current regime, get limited Russian investments, and develop a lot slower than the parts absorbed by the RF. I am ~99% sure that Putin (or his successor) will make sure than Poland and Romania get nothing. Hungary might get that little strip of Transcarpathia populated by Hungarians.

    Will see what transpires in the next 1-2 years. We’ll also see what countries are stupid enough to get under the bus along with current Ukraine.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Capitulation of the current Kiev regime would make it unnecessary.

    Sure, but they are not going to capitulate. They may be overthrown or run away – that’s the way it happens usually – but it is too late for any deal and they won’t surrender (Anglos would take away their passports).

    Grinding down the remaining Ukie army inside large cities could take years and lots of destruction. The Nato-ids will also never admit that they were wrong. So it could still get very ugly. Each month the future prospects for Ukraine diminish.

    I agree that Russia won’t absorb the landlocked western part of Ukraine. But what are we to do with them? They are on our borders, want stuff, too poor for EU with few resources. A black hole of angry losers constantly regurgitating made-up myths. And all they had to do was agree to the Minsk deal…that deal was actually a betrayal of Donbas and very bad for Russia in the long run. The Westies don’t even know how to play the game any more.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Beckow



    Capitulation of the current Kiev regime would make it unnecessary.
     
    Sure, but they are not going to capitulate. They may be overthrown or run away – that’s the way it happens usually
     
    It is a safe bet that Zelensky will bolt to his European masters (Scholz and Macron) at some point. At a minimum, he will receive a sincere making speeches at a circuit of SJW Globalist institutions. If the Europeans are really obstreperous, they could set up Zelensky as head of a Government in Exile.

    The new Kiev administration will have negotiation capable leadership that can cut a deal with Moscow. However, it is 100% certain that they will obtain much less than the Minsk deal on offer nearly a decade ago.

    PEACE 😇
  789. I hope the Moscow stuff isn’t related to the US Special Forces flights to Tblisi in Georgia and then to and from Almaty in Kazakhstan.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#34709ba1

    They never did (as far as I know) find the identity of the Maidan shooters who killed around 100 people in 2014 and triggered the coup/revolution in Kiev. Police were originally accused but acquitted.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @YetAnotherAnon

    They were Georgians weren't they, Ivan Katchanovski(?) has covered it a lot?

    Seen the NAFO crowd going on about that Call of Duty game, always thought that episode was off when I played that game, pretty sick to think they had that as part of the 'game'. Someone put that in there.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Were the Maidan shooters Georgians?

    If so that makes a visit to Tblisi a lot more sinister.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/MISFT61/34709ba1


    Based on the Lockheed C-130 Hercules transport, the MC-130s’ missions are the infiltration, exfiltration, and resupply of special operations forces, and the air refueling of (primarily) special operations helicopter and tilt-rotor aircraft.
     
  790. A123 says: • Website
    @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    Capitulation of the current Kiev regime would make it unnecessary.
     
    Sure, but they are not going to capitulate. They may be overthrown or run away - that's the way it happens usually - but it is too late for any deal and they won't surrender (Anglos would take away their passports).

    Grinding down the remaining Ukie army inside large cities could take years and lots of destruction. The Nato-ids will also never admit that they were wrong. So it could still get very ugly. Each month the future prospects for Ukraine diminish.

    I agree that Russia won't absorb the landlocked western part of Ukraine. But what are we to do with them? They are on our borders, want stuff, too poor for EU with few resources. A black hole of angry losers constantly regurgitating made-up myths. And all they had to do was agree to the Minsk deal...that deal was actually a betrayal of Donbas and very bad for Russia in the long run. The Westies don't even know how to play the game any more.

    Replies: @A123

    Capitulation of the current Kiev regime would make it unnecessary.

    Sure, but they are not going to capitulate. They may be overthrown or run away – that’s the way it happens usually

    It is a safe bet that Zelensky will bolt to his European masters (Scholz and Macron) at some point. At a minimum, he will receive a sincere making speeches at a circuit of SJW Globalist institutions. If the Europeans are really obstreperous, they could set up Zelensky as head of a Government in Exile.

    The new Kiev administration will have negotiation capable leadership that can cut a deal with Moscow. However, it is 100% certain that they will obtain much less than the Minsk deal on offer nearly a decade ago.

    PEACE 😇

  791. AP says:
    @Dmitry
    @Matra

    I think England has also a caste-system structure compared to Netherlands.

    If you removed the socioeconomically top 10% and bottom 40% of the population of England, the culture would be more similar to Netherlands.

    It's maybe if you created a new country using only middle class English people, without upper class and working class. The new middle class only country which would be more like the Netherlands?


    upper class is just less showy – Calvinist legacy? – than the mostly nouveau riche of present-day England?
     
    Expensive cars and mansions is also part of the vieux riche tradition of England, it's not only oligarchs from Moscow and Riyadh although they could be of the Lamborghinis' owners in London. The upper class in Russia believe they are following the example of the upper class of England.

    A lot of the international car culture was created by English land owners.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwood_Festival_of_Speed#History

    -

    I guess the vieux riche in Netherlands are more descended from protestant capitalists who lived in cities. In England, vieux riche were generally becoming land owners, who lived until the 20th century in agricultural area mansions with hundreds of servants.

    Replies: @AP

    It’s maybe if you created a new country using only middle class English people, without upper class and working class. The new middle class only country which would be more like the Netherlands?

    These are exactly the people who settled New England. They prevented poor from coming, and discouraged the rich also. Even many of the farmers had been prosperous shopkeepers before leaving England.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    It's quite interesting that a lot of the most accomplished people in US history either came from New England or had ancestors who came from New England if one went far enough back in time:

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QmZrri2qmyE/VtgNsabC6ZI/AAAAAAAAAcE/6IT3BiVgSpM/s1600/Murray2003_America_2.png

    From Charles Murray's book Human Accomplishment. I'd like to get this confirmed with data, but I suspect that a lot of the accomplished people in, say, the Midwest or even the Western US had at least some New England roots if one went far enough back in time. AFAIK, New Englanders did move further west in huge numbers once those territories opened up for mass white settlement and colonization.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

    , @Dmitry
    @AP

    Doesn't the early, Pilgrim settlement select for people who join religious cults, which would be more religious motivated people? Puritan settlers were a community with a lot of religious and idealist mentality, famous for some "social activities" like in Salem. Plymouth Colony seems like a 17th century Gush Emunim.

    Dutch tolerated the Plymouth Colony in Leiden, after they escaped from the English police, before they go to America like they were tolerating many of the religious minorities, often it was probably for partly economic motivation.


    -
    Port cities of the Netherlands was like the Singapore economy in the 17th century.

    People believe the famous Dutch religious tolerance has quite a lot of economic origins. The Dutch philosemitism, can be originating in economic interest of the House of Orange from the Jewish trading networks. Some of the mansions in Amsterdam are from Jewish merchant families that had escaped from Spain and Portugal.

    The House of Orange welcomed a lot of Huguenot refugees that escaped from France partly because of the economic motivation, some of the persecuted religious minorities like Huguenots had a high proportion of skilled workers, merchants, also soldiers.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

  792. @AnonfromTN
    @Matra


    Footage coming out of Moscow is horrific.
     
    There are two viable hypotheses who attacked Krocus City. It’s either Islamic terrorists or Ukie terrorists. Whoever it is will regret it: perpetrators in Hell, their supporters in jail or Hell (depending on their luck).

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Mr. Hack

    What comes around goes around!

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  794. AP says:
    @Dmitry
    @AnonfromTN

    We could guess, this kind of terrorist attack against ordinary civilians in a concert, is probably Islamist. There were not large terrorist attacks since the metro bombing in Saint-Petersburg in 2017, there were often interrupted Islamist plans for attacks in years like 2020, 2019, 2018.

    Replies: @AP, @AnonfromTN

    Probably Islamists. As in Israel, where the horrific Oct 7 attack was possible in part because Netanyahu was placing his soldiers to guard illegal settlements in the West Bank rather than Gaza, perhaps if the Russian state wasn’t focused on conquering Ukraine it would have been able to prevent this sort of thing.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Netanyahu and his coalition were also doing some other stupid shit before October 7, such as trying to pass an extremely divisive judicial reform (instead of pursuing talks with the opposition about how to make this judicial reform more acceptable to all sides) and talking about repealing or at least amending the Grandchild Clause of Israel's Law of Return, which if successful would have prevented people with Jewish grandfathers from immigrating to Israel even if they don't practice any other religion. The last item here was especially repulsive to those Israelis and Israeli citizens (such as myself, abroad) who are not halakhically Jewish, including some of us (such as myself and my younger sibling) with only a Jewish grandfather.

  795. More food for thought.

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  796. @YetAnotherAnon
    I hope the Moscow stuff isn't related to the US Special Forces flights to Tblisi in Georgia and then to and from Almaty in Kazakhstan.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#34709ba1

    They never did (as far as I know) find the identity of the Maidan shooters who killed around 100 people in 2014 and triggered the coup/revolution in Kiev. Police were originally accused but acquitted.

    Replies: @LondonBob, @YetAnotherAnon

    They were Georgians weren’t they, Ivan Katchanovski(?) has covered it a lot?

    Seen the NAFO crowd going on about that Call of Duty game, always thought that episode was off when I played that game, pretty sick to think they had that as part of the ‘game’. Someone put that in there.

  797. @Dmitry
    @songbird


    genetic selection for diet
     
    Maybe for the agriculture diet of the 19th century peasants. 21st century humans are not very genetically selected for some aspects of the 21st century dietary patterns in the developed, industrialized countries like having unlimited food and our cupboard full of bags of potato chips.


    -

    She said her height is 186 cm.

    Average calories eaten by woman in Japan are 1700 calories, which is lower even than some developing countries like India.

    So, for someone with this height, to become overweight, she would need to be significantly divergent from the most common dietary pattern of people in her country. Culture pressure probably explains why those people from Japan with non-Japanese origin would have lower body fat than people from their ancestral countries.

    The puzzle is why the culture overall is different in relation to food compared to most industrialized societies.


    wish different governments collected more data about people’s habits. I would especially like to know how foreigners in all these different countries might be influenced.

     

    The culture pressure would be probably to eat the normal diet which has lower calories. Also to use the normal transportation, which has more energy expenditure in Japan compared to the USA.

    -

    There is 10x difference, in rates of female obesity between the USA and Japan, which is unexpected if you consider both countries have the same economic level, modernization and industrialization processes in the 20th century.

    https://i.imgur.com/18eNnO1.jpeg

    Japan's obesity rate is a lot closer to Ethiopia and Uganda in still much earlier stages of history, while the historical modernization level is like Texas or Illinois.

    Replies: @songbird

    Maybe for the agriculture diet of the 19th century peasants.

    The 19th century diet, while poor by modern standards, was still dramatically different (and in some ways richer) than the historic agricultural diet, before the Columbian Exchange.

    Jared Diamond believes that potatoes and the calorie surplus from trade with the New World caused an epidemic of Type 2 diabetes in Europeans back then, shifting allele frequencies, as it reduces fertility by a lot. If he is right, it may be that the potato blunted the edge off of rice (which she a very high glycemic index.)

    OTOH, they are getting fatter in Indonesia. Would guess that means also the Javanese, and I would think their old diet was traditionally pretty similar to Japan.

  798. @YetAnotherAnon
    I hope the Moscow stuff isn't related to the US Special Forces flights to Tblisi in Georgia and then to and from Almaty in Kazakhstan.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#34709ba1

    They never did (as far as I know) find the identity of the Maidan shooters who killed around 100 people in 2014 and triggered the coup/revolution in Kiev. Police were originally accused but acquitted.

    Replies: @LondonBob, @YetAnotherAnon

    Were the Maidan shooters Georgians?

    If so that makes a visit to Tblisi a lot more sinister.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/MISFT61/34709ba1

    Based on the Lockheed C-130 Hercules transport, the MC-130s’ missions are the infiltration, exfiltration, and resupply of special operations forces, and the air refueling of (primarily) special operations helicopter and tilt-rotor aircraft.

  799. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    it creates moaning vegetables. It’s just a way to extract money.
     
    I couldn't agree with you any more. The US is full of "moaning vegetables" whose only function is to help fill the coffers of willing medical practitioners. The problem is that modern medicine seems to be mostly based around the process of fixing symptoms with pharmaceutical drugs (another cash cow), instead of teaching people how to avoid illness through diet, exercise and supplements (not much money to be made from hawking vitamins, etc).

    Giving the elderly rides to dialysis in ambulances and charging $1000 to go half a mile.
     
    Well, most folks on dialysis usually visit their clinics by having a family member or a personal aide drive them to the facility. Also, a large cottage industry has formed of vans that specialize in driving the needy to their appointments, paid for by medicare or medicaid programs. So paying $1,000 per ride is certainly an exaggeration.

    Replies: @songbird

    of fixing symptoms with pharmaceutical drugs (another cash cow),

    It is common to go to the doctors and see a pharmaceutical rep bringing them lunches.

    supplements (not much money to be made from hawking vitamins, etc).

    I recall hearing that multivitamins don’t seem to increase lifespan. But perhaps, they can still help quality of life?

    It seems like we really live in an age where it is easier to gather and share data, but a lot of medical journals use paywalls, even though they are funded by tax dollars and private grants, and a lot of the science is bad.

    So paying $1,000 per ride is certainly an exaggeration

    It does exist to a certain extent. Have read of it. But also recall hearing directly about a bad case of a relative, though I may forget the exact price

    It involved a trip either from the hospital to rehab or the other way around. There was no street. It was different buildings in the same lot. And it was done with an ambulance and cost like $500.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    I recall hearing that multivitamins don’t seem to increase lifespan. But perhaps, they can still help quality of life?
     
    In any case, I don't think that using supplements will shorten anybody's life. I look at supplements like a gardener looks at enriching the soil to get the most out of his plants. Take a look at even roses, after including some fertilizer and other nutrients back into the soil, the flowers and leaves look bigger and healthier. Or an auto mechanic adding lubricants and cleaners to an engine, everything runs much better afterwards. One can do wonders for one's health by adding only three supplements to a dietary regimen: 1) a good multivitamin that includes a good and large proportion of the B vitamins. 2) A high quality fish oil supplement including a high dosage of omega 3's. 3) Magnesium, so crucial for all of the body's function that so few people get from their normal diets. Of course, nothing beats a good diet, but how does one know if you're really getting enough of the good nutrients that are needed?

    a lot of medical journals use paywalls, even though they are funded by tax dollars and private grants, and a lot of the science is bad.
     
    I am able to access a lot of good research articles that provide great and cutting edge information related to health issues. Also, I obtain a monthly publication from "Life Extension" for free (just for occasionally buying a supplement) that include cutting edge articles too.

    Although I believe you about your relative who got ripped off by some unscrupulous driver, and can imagine other such incidents, but I thought that we were discussing the costs attributed to passengers to and from clinics that specialize in dialysis treatment? Millions of people everyday avail themselves of much lower cost alternatives than $500 or even $1,000 per trip.

    Replies: @songbird

  800. The criminal code in the RF has death penalty. However, the moratorium on executions is in effect in the RF since 1996. This moratorium had majority support back then, but today >70% of the residents are in favor of cancelling it and executing those found guilty of terrorism and other most heinous crimes. The terror act in Crocus City would likely further increase the support of reintroduction of death penalty. Possibly to the level the authorities won’t be able to ignore. This issue was just raised in the State Duma (RF parliament).

    Some criminals are too stupid not to incriminate themselves. Ukies have already announced that terrorist attack on Crocus City was not them, that the RF did it itself (remember Ukie lies that Donetsk and Lugansk are shelled by freedom fighters themselves?). Ukie puppeteers in the US also stated that Ukies are not guilty of this terrorist act. Ukies shelled Belgorod at the same time as terrorists attacked Crocus. Ukie propaganda greatly intensified its stream of fakes at the exact time of this terrorist act. One wonders…

  801. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    The story of inbred f**ktard Galician plankton in elections since 1991 is literally “99% or whatever” voting… voting with Kravchuk, then Kuchma, Timoshenko
     
    You have been gone and disconnected from the former USSR for so long that you’ve forgotten that there are two rounds.

    In the first round, Tymoshenko got less than 40% in Galicia. Indeed, this region had the most competitive politics. Compared to 70%+ in the Donbas oblasts.

    But even in the second round - no Galician province voted over 90% for Tymoshenko:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election


    Again, highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk – but this ‘vote” happened!
     
    Even in the second round Yanukovich got a higher % of votes in Luhansk than Tymoshenko got in Galicia.

    Luhansk: 89% for Yanukovich

    Ivano-Frankivsk: 88.9% for Tymoshenko
    Lviv: 86.2% for Tymoshenko
    Ternopil: 88.4% for Tymoshenko

    First round:

    Luhansk: 71.1% Yanukovich
    Ivano-Frankivsk: 39% Tymoshenko, 25% Yushchenko

    Similar for the other Galician provinces.

    Sovok “engineer” doesn’t know math, as usual.

    ::::::::::

    The Russian election results show better results for Putin in Chechnya than for Yanukovich in Donbas in 2010 LOL.

    As you know, Ukrainians laugh at Chechen soldiers. Call them tic tok warriors.

    Chechens try to avoid Ukrainians and instead kill Russians who try to desert IIRC.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    You have been gone and disconnected from the former USSR for so long

    An amusingly, idiotic lie….a bizarre pitiful attempt to reverse my FACTUAL insults about you having zero connection to Russia and 404.

    for so long that you’ve forgotten that there are two rounds.

    err…..no, shit-for-brains. That ‘s just you projecting that you are embarrassed by the contents of my post and have frantically used wikipedia to try and put some instantaneous BS on here – and in the process discovered for yourself about the 2 rounds! Of course I knew that, and of course its completely irrelevant as 2 candidate elections are common across the world……and 5% vs 95% for the candidate is completely abnormal for these other countries you idiot.

    I realise that for subhuman trash as yourself, even making me look at and write the numbers on here is “peremoga”, but I will do it anyway:

    1991 elections- Galician provinces/iodine-free zones…..12,14,17% for Kravchuk ( with the subsequent non-Banderatard migration out of Galicia that 13,14,17% is still about 0% with Galician khokhols)

    1994-Galician/iodine……..89,91&91% for Kravchuk, 2nd Round….94,94&95% for Kravchuk. Kuchma?…….a massively competitive 4% for all of them.

    OK – new state, this discrepancy for the first 2 elections could be understandable…..but then we get to the next election:

    1999 – 92% in second round all for Kuchma in the galician shitholes. Simonyenko……5%.!!!Lugansk? the voting 53 vs 41%.

    Indeed, this region had the most competitive politics

    So in the mind of a mentally deranged, compulsive liar wacko as yourself 92 vs 5 % is “more competitive” than 53 vs 41%???!!!!! LMFAO

    2004 – 89, 87 & 88% for Yushchenko. 2nd (well, that’s another, CIA , issue) Round ….96,94 & 96%. That’s with Yanu being the best continuity candidate from Kuchma, who they voted 92% for the previous election…. and for all the many problems at that time – in that year the economic growth from low base was particularly high. Again, completely abnormal that Yanukovich could not only lose but be completely uncompetitive in these retard-zones of Galicia……while a total loser as Yushchenko was at North Korea support level.

    2010 – with Timoshenko being a big part of Orange “revolution”, then Yushchenko’s PM, then him initiating criminal case against her , and with Yanukovich then bringing stability and sanity to Yushchenko’s freakshow Orange government, and with many people thinking Timoshenko is more pro-Russian than Yanukovich, and even more interconnected with Russian finance……………in this typically nonsensical, schizofrenik khokhol “masterpiece”……….. Galician inbreds vote for her highly in the first round and at 88 & 89% levels in the second!!!

    Even in the second round Yanukovich got a higher % of votes in Luhansk than Tymoshenko got in Galicia.

    LMAO – so having read the results – like the autistic fantasist dipshit you are, you shamelessly write this over a discrepancy of 0.08%!!!!! Basic point you cretin is that Yanukovich has personal connection and deep business relation to Donbass ( Donetsk then the wealthiest part of 404) ………Timoshenko has NONE of that to Galicia. Donetsk the most urbanised, industrialised and economic part of 404 -, Galicia the complete opposite …..so its entirely unsurprising through natural and unatural methods of administrative resource for Yanu’s results in Donbass – Timoshenko getting the same in Galicia is completely ridiculous, LOL.

    As you know, Ukrainians laugh at Chechen soldiers. Call them tic tok warriors.

    Err no . Idiotic BS. Tik tok is though about the only thing Ukronazis can do semi-competently. Although with events today I have zero appetite to discuss this point

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234

    [Discussion about voting patterns]


    1999 – 92% in second round all for Kuchma in the galician
     
    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.

    2004 – 89, 87 & 88% for Yushchenko. 2nd (well, that’s another, CIA , issue) Round ….96,94 & 96%. That’s with Yanu being the best continuity candidate from Kuchma, who they voted 92% for the previous election…
     
    Small Soviet civil "engineer" brain can't cope with simple reality.

    When the choice was between Kuchma and a Communist (1999) 90+% of Galicians voted for Kuchma. When the choice was between a Donbas criminal oligarch supported by Communists and Yushchenko, 90+% of Galicians voted for Yushchenko.


    you shamelessly write this over a discrepancy of 0.08%
     
    Indeed. Yanukovich got 89% in Luhansk but Tymoshenko got 88.9% in Ivano-Frankivsk.

    I wrote that for one reason - because you stated:


    "highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk – but this ‘vote” happened!"
     
    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil "engineer" you don't know that 88.9% is less than 89%. Maybe you think because the former number has more digits it must be bigger.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.

    You were caught and then you cried "autism", as if one must be autistic to understand basic concepts like 88.9% is smaller than 89%.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  802. @Dmitry
    @AnonfromTN

    We could guess, this kind of terrorist attack against ordinary civilians in a concert, is probably Islamist. There were not large terrorist attacks since the metro bombing in Saint-Petersburg in 2017, there were often interrupted Islamist plans for attacks in years like 2020, 2019, 2018.

    Replies: @AP, @AnonfromTN

    We could guess, this kind of terrorist attack against ordinary civilians in a concert, is probably Islamist.

    Years ago, I might have agreed. However, with repeated Ukie shelling of civilians in Donbass from 2014, as well as in Belgorod this year, I wouldn’t put this crime past them. At a guess, the probability is 50:50. Investigation will reveal who is behind it. I.e., who must be severely punished. If it’s Ukies, I wouldn’t bet a broken penny on the life of the clown or any one of his minions.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @AnonfromTN

    Events related to the interruption of Islamist terrorist plans are reported in Russia every year, even more frequently.

    Two weeks ago, the FSB says they killed two Kazakhs which were planning to attack Moscow synagogue. https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2816209/

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

  803. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    France is training ~2,000 military personnel (part Foreign Legion, part regular troops) for the possibility of sending them to Ukraine to fight the RF.
     
    BTW the head of the French Foreign Legion is an of ethnic Ukrainian descent born in France, Brigadier General Kyrylo Yushchenko:

    http://foreignlegion.info/2023/07/26/foreign-legion-2023-change-of-command/

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    BTW the head of the French Foreign Legion is an of ethnic Ukrainian descent born in France, Brigadier General Kyrylo Yushchenko:

    And the head of the VSU is an ethnic Russian, born in Russia, parents and brother living in Moscow, with an adopted son living in Australia…..who also thinks he’s a scumbag. WTF is your point?

    Kyrylo Yushchenko

    OR, as his parents would know him as………Kyrill Yushchenko. At least there is some genuine attempt at virtue signalling BS when Mr Hack does this artificial khokholisation. When a mentally deranged imbecile, who cant speak the language, and who I assume still writes “Nikolai Gogol” on here, as you do does it………….its highly comedic.

    ethnic Ukrainian descent

    1. No such thing exists

    2. Neither of us know if he’s a Banderetard, white emigree or whatever type of heritage to explain how his family arrived in France or if he’s 98% russian descent

    3. His name could genuinely not be Slavic at all but the actually the french equivalent of Cyril. He was born there – so that’s normal. What is not normal, but typical for the failure Banderastan freakshow is Petliura , not being born in France , only lived there 1 0r 2 years ,having/changing his name to “Simon” instead of Semyon. I don’t think he did this in France either!

    Literally WTF is it with the endless list of ukronazi scum – colossal failures, corrupt, sadistic, militarily useless, completely non-patriotic in actions………and even in names!!!!
    Any other nationalist ideologist across the world in history ever changed their name AGAINST the side they are supposedly fighting for? A minor issue, but hugely symptomatic of khokholism generally.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    the head of the VSU is an ethnic Russian, born in Russia, parents and brother living in Moscow
     
    Further proof that Russians are not being discriminated against by the Ukrainian government based on their ethnicity. One of them is head of Ukraine's military.

    Kyrylo Yushchenko [head of French foreing legion]

    OR, as his parents would know him as………Kyrill Yushchenko
     

    Who knows?

    But it's interesting that he is of Ukrainian ethnic descent. Perhaps even some very distant cousin of Ukraine's former president.


    Neither of us know if he’s a Banderetard, white emigree or whatever type of heritage to explain how his family arrived in France
     
    That's why I merely wrote that he is Ukrainian descent, and not that he is some kind of diaspora Ukrainian. There are Russians of Ukrainian descent - they have surnames ending in -enko.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  804. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    of fixing symptoms with pharmaceutical drugs (another cash cow),
     
    It is common to go to the doctors and see a pharmaceutical rep bringing them lunches.

    supplements (not much money to be made from hawking vitamins, etc).
     
    I recall hearing that multivitamins don't seem to increase lifespan. But perhaps, they can still help quality of life?

    It seems like we really live in an age where it is easier to gather and share data, but a lot of medical journals use paywalls, even though they are funded by tax dollars and private grants, and a lot of the science is bad.

    So paying $1,000 per ride is certainly an exaggeration
     
    It does exist to a certain extent. Have read of it. But also recall hearing directly about a bad case of a relative, though I may forget the exact price

    It involved a trip either from the hospital to rehab or the other way around. There was no street. It was different buildings in the same lot. And it was done with an ambulance and cost like $500.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I recall hearing that multivitamins don’t seem to increase lifespan. But perhaps, they can still help quality of life?

    In any case, I don’t think that using supplements will shorten anybody’s life. I look at supplements like a gardener looks at enriching the soil to get the most out of his plants. Take a look at even roses, after including some fertilizer and other nutrients back into the soil, the flowers and leaves look bigger and healthier. Or an auto mechanic adding lubricants and cleaners to an engine, everything runs much better afterwards. One can do wonders for one’s health by adding only three supplements to a dietary regimen: 1) a good multivitamin that includes a good and large proportion of the B vitamins. 2) A high quality fish oil supplement including a high dosage of omega 3’s. 3) Magnesium, so crucial for all of the body’s function that so few people get from their normal diets. Of course, nothing beats a good diet, but how does one know if you’re really getting enough of the good nutrients that are needed?

    a lot of medical journals use paywalls, even though they are funded by tax dollars and private grants, and a lot of the science is bad.

    I am able to access a lot of good research articles that provide great and cutting edge information related to health issues. Also, I obtain a monthly publication from “Life Extension” for free (just for occasionally buying a supplement) that include cutting edge articles too.

    Although I believe you about your relative who got ripped off by some unscrupulous driver, and can imagine other such incidents, but I thought that we were discussing the costs attributed to passengers to and from clinics that specialize in dialysis treatment? Millions of people everyday avail themselves of much lower cost alternatives than $500 or even $1,000 per trip.

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Am afraid that LatW will outlive us all, by using banned whale extracts.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  805. @AP
    @Dmitry


    It’s maybe if you created a new country using only middle class English people, without upper class and working class. The new middle class only country which would be more like the Netherlands?
     
    These are exactly the people who settled New England. They prevented poor from coming, and discouraged the rich also. Even many of the farmers had been prosperous shopkeepers before leaving England.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

    It’s quite interesting that a lot of the most accomplished people in US history either came from New England or had ancestors who came from New England if one went far enough back in time:

    From Charles Murray’s book Human Accomplishment. I’d like to get this confirmed with data, but I suspect that a lot of the accomplished people in, say, the Midwest or even the Western US had at least some New England roots if one went far enough back in time. AFAIK, New Englanders did move further west in huge numbers once those territories opened up for mass white settlement and colonization.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    FWIW, I suspect that a lot of the accomplished New Yorkers were Jews or at least of (partial) Jewish descent. So, among white gentile US stock, New Englanders and their descendants are probably significantly overrepresented among accomplished people.

    , @Dmitry
    @Mr. XYZ

    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.

    -

    The example of the escape of the Huguenots, was a persecution in France of some of the most educated population. Calvinists were one of the socioeconomically developed groups in France before the Catholics were massacring them.

    Huguenot refugees escaping France and Flanders, probably in the long range increased a lot of the power of England and the Dutch Republic in relation to France. Descendants of Huguenot refugee families installed the Bank of England in London. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_du_Quesne,_the_Younger

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts, @Wokechoke

  806. @AP
    @Dmitry

    Probably Islamists. As in Israel, where the horrific Oct 7 attack was possible in part because Netanyahu was placing his soldiers to guard illegal settlements in the West Bank rather than Gaza, perhaps if the Russian state wasn’t focused on conquering Ukraine it would have been able to prevent this sort of thing.



    https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1771240938418958800?s=20

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Netanyahu and his coalition were also doing some other stupid shit before October 7, such as trying to pass an extremely divisive judicial reform (instead of pursuing talks with the opposition about how to make this judicial reform more acceptable to all sides) and talking about repealing or at least amending the Grandchild Clause of Israel’s Law of Return, which if successful would have prevented people with Jewish grandfathers from immigrating to Israel even if they don’t practice any other religion. The last item here was especially repulsive to those Israelis and Israeli citizens (such as myself, abroad) who are not halakhically Jewish, including some of us (such as myself and my younger sibling) with only a Jewish grandfather.

  807. @AP
    @Sean


    For predictions about what Russia will do, one needs to be very good at putting oneself in the shoes of Russians, who believe it or not, consider themselves to be the good guys
     
    Maybe so, but they are also getting more sick of the war than they were before. Putin’s popularity in the provinces has declined to Moscow levels (still over 60%, but much lower than before).

    However, such is not the case, and the question Putin or any successor would anticipate the average Russian asking is: ‘all the sacrifice of our boys has been for nothing?’
     
    So far most of the sacrificed have been “losers” such as inmates, desperately poor provincials willing to take the risk for the money, minorities such as Buryats, etc.

    The more pertinent question is whether normal people from places that matter such as not only Moscow but large million-plus cities are going to want to start sacrificing their only sons, their husbands, etc. in some field in Zaporizhia in order to make the previous sacrifice of inmates in those same fields “worth it.”

    Ukraine is constrained in number of soldiers by its smaller population; Russia is constrained by the number of people willing or (in the case of inmates) viably “coerceable” to get their guts ripped apart in some Ukrainian field 1000s of km from home. In terms of soldiers, the two sides are not as lopsidedly mismatched as might appear.

    Replies: @Sean, @Mr. XYZ

    The more pertinent question is whether normal people from places that matter such as not only Moscow but large million-plus cities are going to want to start sacrificing their only sons, their husbands, etc. in some field in Zaporizhia in order to make the previous sacrifice of inmates in those same fields “worth it.”

    Objectively speaking, conquering Ukraine likely won’t be much of a win for Russia even if Russia will be magically successful at doing this due to the likely fact that many, if not most, of the smart and young Ukrainians will emigrate in such a scenario, thus mostly leaving only the seniors (who require financial assistance) and the lower-average-IQ Sovoks. The smart and young Ukrainians largely won’t be willing to live in a Russian-ruled (or Russian puppet-ruled) Ukraine, especially once it will become clear that an anti-Russian insurgency or mass protest movement is likely not going to succeed ousting the Russians from Ukraine if the Russians ever do magically succeed in conquering Ukraine. The EU would welcome any Ukrainians who will want to flee Ukraine in such a scenario with open arms.

  808. Is this real?

    I suspect Photoshop, but I am not sure.

    PEACE 😇

     

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123


    ... but I am not sure
     
    That's the point: to never know for sure. Both Covid and vaccines enhanced some preexisting conditions, the multiple vaccines more than having Covid. But the numbers in both cases are small - there is increased mortality but no smoking gun.

    The best way to deal w C19 was to isolate the elderly and sick and ignore it for everyone else - Sweden did it and managed quite well. Whether there are long-term vaccines side effects depends on so many factors that they will forever deny it. But the ones who got many shots - for no good reason in almost all cases - should reconsider whether they have the smarts to live in the modern world.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @QCIC
    @A123

    It seems wildly unlikely that this is real, though it is probably a valid question. Don't worry about it, this is the Unz Review: COVID-19 is very deadly, poorly tested novel injections are perfectly safe and the government is here to help you! I wonder if 7332767 is a porn site? Damn those bats!

  809. @AnonfromTN
    @Dmitry


    We could guess, this kind of terrorist attack against ordinary civilians in a concert, is probably Islamist.
     
    Years ago, I might have agreed. However, with repeated Ukie shelling of civilians in Donbass from 2014, as well as in Belgorod this year, I wouldn’t put this crime past them. At a guess, the probability is 50:50. Investigation will reveal who is behind it. I.e., who must be severely punished. If it’s Ukies, I wouldn’t bet a broken penny on the life of the clown or any one of his minions.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Events related to the interruption of Islamist terrorist plans are reported in Russia every year, even more frequently.

    Two weeks ago, the FSB says they killed two Kazakhs which were planning to attack Moscow synagogue. https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2816209/

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Dmitry


    Events related to the interruption of Islamist terrorist plans are interrupted in Russia every year, even more frequently.
     
    I am not saying that there are no Islamist terrorists, in Russia and elsewhere. I am just saying that Ukie terrorists are no better. Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Dmitry

    It's quite interesting: Russia has significant success in integrating Muslims and yet there is still a notable Muslim bad apple minority within Russia in regards to things such as terrorism. Kazakhs especially are a secular people. Why would they be susceptible to radical Islamist propaganda? Or are they simply huge outliers relative to the total Kazakh population?

    Honestly, as unfortunate as this is, racial and religious profiling by law enforcement in order to save (additional) lives would probably be justifiable, IMHO. If certain groups have a disproportionate share of bad apples relative to their total populations, then engaging in profiling towards them would likely be justifiable if strictly limited in scope and with the exclusive goal of protecting as many lives from criminals and terrorists as possible. Neven Sesardic has previously written about this.

  810. @Dmitry
    @AnonfromTN

    Events related to the interruption of Islamist terrorist plans are reported in Russia every year, even more frequently.

    Two weeks ago, the FSB says they killed two Kazakhs which were planning to attack Moscow synagogue. https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2816209/

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

    Events related to the interruption of Islamist terrorist plans are interrupted in Russia every year, even more frequently.

    I am not saying that there are no Islamist terrorists, in Russia and elsewhere. I am just saying that Ukie terrorists are no better. Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    It doesn't add up: the Palis are in a fight for their lives with Russia and Iran among the few who support them. So "ISIS" (whatever hell that is) waits until middle of the Gaza conflict to first attack Iran (2 months ago) and then Russia. Riiiight, these are quite some Islamists...

    No matter who did it, the terror will further inflame the Russian public and lead to more escalation. The war is in Ukraine so it will mostly fall on them.

    Replies: @sudden death

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN

    If Russia will conquer Ukraine, then it will get much more Ukie terrorism afterwards.

    This specific terrorist attack was apparently done by ISIS, though.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

  811. @A123
    Is this real?

    I suspect Photoshop, but I am not sure.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhShv67rd3J5KTbHz5ZvUaGl-1kFlT9RP2VOfsUTCn9nUXhYMoqHWj9SxAyAkKC2Rj5K1Oh-TG5xF1XHNfOptib4wNUPavqWcBPLlxKaxB8sSI6Bbf8Pl697eKCnQuB00sDpwaeEd4mp8ei6JHDFAUFDZpmxXzXtgOzwJgqsaGl4WFeRZJlIo7xDQD2pCI/s1080/1%20sdfsdfdsdfsd.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    … but I am not sure

    That’s the point: to never know for sure. Both Covid and vaccines enhanced some preexisting conditions, the multiple vaccines more than having Covid. But the numbers in both cases are small – there is increased mortality but no smoking gun.

    The best way to deal w C19 was to isolate the elderly and sick and ignore it for everyone else – Sweden did it and managed quite well. Whether there are long-term vaccines side effects depends on so many factors that they will forever deny it. But the ones who got many shots – for no good reason in almost all cases – should reconsider whether they have the smarts to live in the modern world.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    You sound prepared to join our anti-anti-anti-vaxxer squad.

    Some are still driving Unz to distraction. In the Sachs thread he did his bolded announcement of no anti-vaxxer comments you stupid morons three times the last I looked.

    Replies: @Beckow

  812. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    It's quite interesting that a lot of the most accomplished people in US history either came from New England or had ancestors who came from New England if one went far enough back in time:

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QmZrri2qmyE/VtgNsabC6ZI/AAAAAAAAAcE/6IT3BiVgSpM/s1600/Murray2003_America_2.png

    From Charles Murray's book Human Accomplishment. I'd like to get this confirmed with data, but I suspect that a lot of the accomplished people in, say, the Midwest or even the Western US had at least some New England roots if one went far enough back in time. AFAIK, New Englanders did move further west in huge numbers once those territories opened up for mass white settlement and colonization.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

    FWIW, I suspect that a lot of the accomplished New Yorkers were Jews or at least of (partial) Jewish descent. So, among white gentile US stock, New Englanders and their descendants are probably significantly overrepresented among accomplished people.

  813. Does AK not know that Lord Buddha’s last meal was of pork?

    And did militant vegans write this article?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunda_Kamm%C4%81raputta

    I don’t think Buddha got dysentery from pork. I think he got from drinking water because he was in India.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    If it will be possible to make lab-grown porn in the future from pigs' skin cells without ever harming or killing any actual pigs, would Anatoly Karlin really complain about eating pork produced in such a manner?

    And Yeah, the water in India is dirty as fuck, unfortunately. India has some extremely smart people but the country itself is still a mess, or at least large parts of it are. Would fit Trump's designation of "shithole country", albeit nowhere near as much as Haiti would. Still, India has some potential. The Indian coolie workers who were brought to British African and Caribbean colonies as well as Fiji subsequently had their descendants become the commercial class of those countries, which suggests that even working-class Indians have significant potential.

  814. @AnonfromTN
    @Dmitry


    Events related to the interruption of Islamist terrorist plans are interrupted in Russia every year, even more frequently.
     
    I am not saying that there are no Islamist terrorists, in Russia and elsewhere. I am just saying that Ukie terrorists are no better. Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    It doesn’t add up: the Palis are in a fight for their lives with Russia and Iran among the few who support them. So “ISIS” (whatever hell that is) waits until middle of the Gaza conflict to first attack Iran (2 months ago) and then Russia. Riiiight, these are quite some Islamists…

    No matter who did it, the terror will further inflame the Russian public and lead to more escalation. The war is in Ukraine so it will mostly fall on them.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Beckow


    So “ISIS” (whatever hell that is)
     
    All RF propjunk fanfares circa 2016-2019 were mainly about fighting/defeating the "ISIS" in Syria, even if it had little to do with realities on the ground as the main RF effort was roughly around east-north areas there. RF now is full to the brim with easily available guns/explosives+Central Asian muslims thanx to alltime genius in charge, so even if charitably thinking that it may be bad apples from just small radicalized minority, the numbers in theory are enough for some organized fanatics of all imaginable flavours to appear, who remember and were influenced by all those narratives.
  815. @songbird
    Does AK not know that Lord Buddha's last meal was of pork?

    And did militant vegans write this article?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunda_Kamm%C4%81raputta

    I don't think Buddha got dysentery from pork. I think he got from drinking water because he was in India.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    If it will be possible to make lab-grown porn in the future from pigs’ skin cells without ever harming or killing any actual pigs, would Anatoly Karlin really complain about eating pork produced in such a manner?

    And Yeah, the water in India is dirty as fuck, unfortunately. India has some extremely smart people but the country itself is still a mess, or at least large parts of it are. Would fit Trump’s designation of “shithole country”, albeit nowhere near as much as Haiti would. Still, India has some potential. The Indian coolie workers who were brought to British African and Caribbean colonies as well as Fiji subsequently had their descendants become the commercial class of those countries, which suggests that even working-class Indians have significant potential.

  816. @Dmitry
    @AnonfromTN

    Events related to the interruption of Islamist terrorist plans are reported in Russia every year, even more frequently.

    Two weeks ago, the FSB says they killed two Kazakhs which were planning to attack Moscow synagogue. https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2816209/

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. XYZ

    It’s quite interesting: Russia has significant success in integrating Muslims and yet there is still a notable Muslim bad apple minority within Russia in regards to things such as terrorism. Kazakhs especially are a secular people. Why would they be susceptible to radical Islamist propaganda? Or are they simply huge outliers relative to the total Kazakh population?

    Honestly, as unfortunate as this is, racial and religious profiling by law enforcement in order to save (additional) lives would probably be justifiable, IMHO. If certain groups have a disproportionate share of bad apples relative to their total populations, then engaging in profiling towards them would likely be justifiable if strictly limited in scope and with the exclusive goal of protecting as many lives from criminals and terrorists as possible. Neven Sesardic has previously written about this.

    • Troll: QCIC
  817. @AP
    @Dmitry


    It’s maybe if you created a new country using only middle class English people, without upper class and working class. The new middle class only country which would be more like the Netherlands?
     
    These are exactly the people who settled New England. They prevented poor from coming, and discouraged the rich also. Even many of the farmers had been prosperous shopkeepers before leaving England.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

    Doesn’t the early, Pilgrim settlement select for people who join religious cults, which would be more religious motivated people? Puritan settlers were a community with a lot of religious and idealist mentality, famous for some “social activities” like in Salem. Plymouth Colony seems like a 17th century Gush Emunim.

    Dutch tolerated the Plymouth Colony in Leiden, after they escaped from the English police, before they go to America like they were tolerating many of the religious minorities, often it was probably for partly economic motivation.


    Port cities of the Netherlands was like the Singapore economy in the 17th century.

    People believe the famous Dutch religious tolerance has quite a lot of economic origins. The Dutch philosemitism, can be originating in economic interest of the House of Orange from the Jewish trading networks. Some of the mansions in Amsterdam are from Jewish merchant families that had escaped from Spain and Portugal.

    The House of Orange welcomed a lot of Huguenot refugees that escaped from France partly because of the economic motivation, some of the persecuted religious minorities like Huguenots had a high proportion of skilled workers, merchants, also soldiers.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Dmitry


    Dutch tolerated the Plymouth Colony in Leiden, after they escaped from the English police, before they go to America like they were tolerating many of the religious minorities, often it was probably for partly economic motivation.

     

    The Puritans moved to the Americas because they didn't want their children to become fully assimilated Dutch people, right?

    Also, what is the Russian territorial equivalent of New England, in your own, honest opinion?
    , @AP
    @Dmitry


    Doesn’t the early, Pilgrim settlement select for people who join religious cults, which would be more religious motivated people? Puritan settlers were a community with a lot of religious and idealist mentality, famous for some “social activities” like in Salem.
     
    Yes, but they were also very much middle class tradesmen and shopkeepers. There was even a sort of stereotype - the Yankee trader. One could be both a Protestant religious fanatic and a prosperous, highly educated shopkeeper or merchant in those days.

    There was also an infamous witch trial in the Netherlands, albeit 80 years before Salem (1610):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bredevoort_witch_trials

    " More people, both women and men, where prosecuted, subjected to ordeal by water, tortured to confess and name accomplices, who were then also arrested. Ten men and women where executed by burning for witchcraft in Bredevoort in 1610. The Bredevoort witch trials was the perhaps last witch trial conducted by The Dutch Republic resulting in death sentences."

    People believe the famous Dutch religious tolerance has quite a lot of economic origins. The Dutch philosemitism
     
    The oldest American synagogue is in Rhode Island:

    https://tourosynagogue.org/history/

    The building is from the 1750s, but the congregation had been there since the 1650s. These Jews, like the ones in Amsterdam, were of Spanish and Portuguese origins.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  818. @Dmitry
    @AP

    Doesn't the early, Pilgrim settlement select for people who join religious cults, which would be more religious motivated people? Puritan settlers were a community with a lot of religious and idealist mentality, famous for some "social activities" like in Salem. Plymouth Colony seems like a 17th century Gush Emunim.

    Dutch tolerated the Plymouth Colony in Leiden, after they escaped from the English police, before they go to America like they were tolerating many of the religious minorities, often it was probably for partly economic motivation.


    -
    Port cities of the Netherlands was like the Singapore economy in the 17th century.

    People believe the famous Dutch religious tolerance has quite a lot of economic origins. The Dutch philosemitism, can be originating in economic interest of the House of Orange from the Jewish trading networks. Some of the mansions in Amsterdam are from Jewish merchant families that had escaped from Spain and Portugal.

    The House of Orange welcomed a lot of Huguenot refugees that escaped from France partly because of the economic motivation, some of the persecuted religious minorities like Huguenots had a high proportion of skilled workers, merchants, also soldiers.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Dutch tolerated the Plymouth Colony in Leiden, after they escaped from the English police, before they go to America like they were tolerating many of the religious minorities, often it was probably for partly economic motivation.

    The Puritans moved to the Americas because they didn’t want their children to become fully assimilated Dutch people, right?

    Also, what is the Russian territorial equivalent of New England, in your own, honest opinion?

  819. @A123
    Is this real?

    I suspect Photoshop, but I am not sure.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhShv67rd3J5KTbHz5ZvUaGl-1kFlT9RP2VOfsUTCn9nUXhYMoqHWj9SxAyAkKC2Rj5K1Oh-TG5xF1XHNfOptib4wNUPavqWcBPLlxKaxB8sSI6Bbf8Pl697eKCnQuB00sDpwaeEd4mp8ei6JHDFAUFDZpmxXzXtgOzwJgqsaGl4WFeRZJlIo7xDQD2pCI/s1080/1%20sdfsdfdsdfsd.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    It seems wildly unlikely that this is real, though it is probably a valid question. Don’t worry about it, this is the Unz Review: COVID-19 is very deadly, poorly tested novel injections are perfectly safe and the government is here to help you! I wonder if 7332767 is a porn site? Damn those bats!

  820. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    It's quite interesting that a lot of the most accomplished people in US history either came from New England or had ancestors who came from New England if one went far enough back in time:

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QmZrri2qmyE/VtgNsabC6ZI/AAAAAAAAAcE/6IT3BiVgSpM/s1600/Murray2003_America_2.png

    From Charles Murray's book Human Accomplishment. I'd like to get this confirmed with data, but I suspect that a lot of the accomplished people in, say, the Midwest or even the Western US had at least some New England roots if one went far enough back in time. AFAIK, New Englanders did move further west in huge numbers once those territories opened up for mass white settlement and colonization.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry

    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.

    The example of the escape of the Huguenots, was a persecution in France of some of the most educated population. Calvinists were one of the socioeconomically developed groups in France before the Catholics were massacring them.

    Huguenot refugees escaping France and Flanders, probably in the long range increased a lot of the power of England and the Dutch Republic in relation to France. Descendants of Huguenot refugee families installed the Bank of England in London. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_du_Quesne,_the_Younger

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Dmitry


    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.

     

    Possibly, given the Puritans' own likely high average intelligence.

    The example of the escape of the Huguenots, was a persecution in France of some of the most educated population. Calvinists were one of the socioeconomically developed groups in France before the Catholics were massacring them.

    Huguenot refugees escaping France and Flanders, probably in the long range increased a lot of the power of England and the Dutch Republic in relation to France. Descendants of Huguenot refugee families installed the Bank of England in London. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_du_Quesne,_the_Younger
     
    Hugeunot refugees also strengthened at least some of the German states, such as Prussia, by the same mechanism (bringing their skills and human capital over with them to their new countries).
    , @Coconuts
    @Dmitry


    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.
     
    It seems to be true, both with Calvinism and Jansenism, the Catholic Calvinism-lite variant that appeared in France in the mid-17th century.

    An interesting thing is where the attraction of these harsh theologies (i.e. TULIP) lay for these more educated social groups. Nowadays the same time of people will probably find Orthodox theology more appealing, which stands at the opposite end of the Christian spectrum.

    Many Huguenots occupied NCO and junior officer ranks in the French army before 1685, when Louis XIV started to expel them they joined the Dutch and English armies where they were useful to William in the 9 Years War and in Ireland.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Wokechoke
    @Dmitry

    Hugenots were mainly textile manufacturers.

    Replies: @QCIC

  821. @Beckow
    @A123


    ... but I am not sure
     
    That's the point: to never know for sure. Both Covid and vaccines enhanced some preexisting conditions, the multiple vaccines more than having Covid. But the numbers in both cases are small - there is increased mortality but no smoking gun.

    The best way to deal w C19 was to isolate the elderly and sick and ignore it for everyone else - Sweden did it and managed quite well. Whether there are long-term vaccines side effects depends on so many factors that they will forever deny it. But the ones who got many shots - for no good reason in almost all cases - should reconsider whether they have the smarts to live in the modern world.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    You sound prepared to join our anti-anti-anti-vaxxer squad.

    Some are still driving Unz to distraction. In the Sachs thread he did his bolded announcement of no anti-vaxxer comments you stupid morons three times the last I looked.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am not much for joining anything, and definitely not "squads". It sounds vaguely working class, I am too posh for that...

    My personal view is that both C19 and vaccines were medical mini-events blown way out of proportion. But sticking vaccines repeatedly into oneself was quite stupid on its face. And the real idiots were people sticking that useless sh.t with unknown risks into little kids. That was outright evil.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  822. Japan needs to crack down on all these women with tattoos with an iron fist. Send them all to Hashima Island and have them mine coal, to power the lasers required to remove the tattoos .

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    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Please. That is just too disgusting. Miley Cyrus has an excuse. Her family home in Appalachia did not have indoor plumbing before her daddy made the big time.

    Replies: @QCIC

  823. @Dmitry
    @Mr. XYZ

    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.

    -

    The example of the escape of the Huguenots, was a persecution in France of some of the most educated population. Calvinists were one of the socioeconomically developed groups in France before the Catholics were massacring them.

    Huguenot refugees escaping France and Flanders, probably in the long range increased a lot of the power of England and the Dutch Republic in relation to France. Descendants of Huguenot refugee families installed the Bank of England in London. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_du_Quesne,_the_Younger

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts, @Wokechoke

    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.

    Possibly, given the Puritans’ own likely high average intelligence.

    The example of the escape of the Huguenots, was a persecution in France of some of the most educated population. Calvinists were one of the socioeconomically developed groups in France before the Catholics were massacring them.

    Huguenot refugees escaping France and Flanders, probably in the long range increased a lot of the power of England and the Dutch Republic in relation to France. Descendants of Huguenot refugee families installed the Bank of England in London. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_du_Quesne,_the_Younger

    Hugeunot refugees also strengthened at least some of the German states, such as Prussia, by the same mechanism (bringing their skills and human capital over with them to their new countries).

  824. @AnonfromTN
    @Dmitry


    Events related to the interruption of Islamist terrorist plans are interrupted in Russia every year, even more frequently.
     
    I am not saying that there are no Islamist terrorists, in Russia and elsewhere. I am just saying that Ukie terrorists are no better. Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    If Russia will conquer Ukraine, then it will get much more Ukie terrorism afterwards.

    This specific terrorist attack was apparently done by ISIS, though.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    May the victims of this extremely atrocious terrorist attack RIP. :( Even Russia did not deserve this.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    That is not how it works. Once more sensible Ukrainians regain control they will police their own potential terrorists and drive out foreign influences. Sadly, Russia has to hammer Ukraine until this sea change occurs.

  825. @songbird
    Japan needs to crack down on all these women with tattoos with an iron fist. Send them all to Hashima Island and have them mine coal, to power the lasers required to remove the tattoos .
    https://youtu.be/smaPKl9oOw4?si=gFfqtoO-hQw2tD6g

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Please. That is just too disgusting. Miley Cyrus has an excuse. Her family home in Appalachia did not have indoor plumbing before her daddy made the big time.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My conditioning is that girls with noticeable tattoos do hard drugs and are very promiscuous. What is reality?

  826. S1 says:
    @Dmitry
    @Coconuts


    The wealthiest areas of England

     

    I have been living in Netherlands. It's a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities' design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.

    Some things in the city planning can be related. When those cities are constructed, there was maybe the mutual history of England and Netherlands the 17th and 18th century in the development of capitalism and imperialism.

    -

    I don't know if you can agree with me these kind of cities are similar?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzBTgxhKIM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRks_JVPfk

    The buildings which are before the 19th century, are from a similar architecture school and Netherlands-England city planning is not so different before the 19th century.


    Ireland has never tried to establish an economic socialist regime. The most that has been attempted is more like a variant of Social Catholicism, something like that.

     

    Politics of Ireland can also be more influenced by the Catholic victim culture and internationalism.

    Even some of the ROI's "cynical capitalist" political culture today to be outsourcing government to international organizations is not only divergent to the historical Catholic path outsourcing authority to the Pope.

    There is a significant difference today compared to Great Britain in terms of the right-left distribution of the ordinary population. You can guess Geert Wilders could be popular in England, you couldn't imagine Geert Wilders in ROI. If Conor McGregor begins a political career soon, he would probably go to the USA where he could have attained more mainstream political support.


    Germanic areas of Europe like the Netherlands and Germany itself, which are also more developed economically than the Celtic areas of Britain.
     
    Netherlands' culture is more functional than England. the working class and upper class people.

    England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn't have this upper class. But the average city in the Netherlands is more civilized.

    It's like the transport and bicycle fashions which is for norma peoplel in the Netherlands, is the culture of upper class hipster areas in England.

    Replies: @S1, @Coconuts

    I have been living in Netherlands. It’s a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities’ design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.

    Yes, that’s quite true. I’ve often found myself greatly impressed by how very similar (for the many obvious reasons) the Dutch and English are to each other.

    Below is a 1969 video from Netherlands television of the Dutch band ‘Shocking Blue’. The three male band members shown could all easily pass as English. Some written Dutch language appears in the video, and is quite close to English. Even the ‘country’ song they are performing, ‘Mighty Joe’, probably targeting a US audience, has at least some of it’s origins in Britain.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @S1


    quite close to English
     
    Dutch and English are almost like the same language, but Dutch is more similar to the medieval English language, with higher ratio of German words, their accent is quite different and also the transliteration of the words.

    After a few months in Netherlands, your brain adjusts to their unusual accent and naturally maps a lot of the Dutch words on your English language module.

    Example of this video. They are almost mutually intelligible with English if you don't look at the text because their transliteration method is very different, when you adjust to their different acent. When you know the medieval English vocabulary instead of only the modern English vocabulary, Dutch people using words like "farewell" instead of modern English "goodbye", "wander" instead of "walking", "spring" instead of "jump", "morning" instead of "tomorrow".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCx8YGrgVz0


    male band members shown could all easily pass as English.
     
    Dutch people look more like the middle class English people. Maybe descendants of the part of the settlers which didn't intermarry too often with the indigenous peoples.

    A thing which can be funny, is Dutch people love to sit on antique, upright bicycles without a helmet. But, some of the areas in England where there is similar architecture, where there are higher rates of educated and scientific people, are behaving like Dutch populations also in using antique, vertical bicycles, without a helmet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y_NmpxZPjM

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  827. @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN

    If Russia will conquer Ukraine, then it will get much more Ukie terrorism afterwards.

    This specific terrorist attack was apparently done by ISIS, though.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    May the victims of this extremely atrocious terrorist attack RIP. 🙁 Even Russia did not deserve this.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. XYZ

    If this wasn’t the hand of the CIA up the rear end of their ISIS puppet, we have a bridge to sell you. Islamic Terrorist organisations are the primary tool of the west (including Jews) in the post Soviet space.

    Given all of that the Muscovites will need to have a long hard think about demography. They have a natural frontier with Muslims that’s quite unlike that of most of Europe. The Wild Wild East.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  828. @QCIC
    Russia may be converting the SMO to an actual war. The following points seem related.

    --- More serious attacks on Kharkov infrastructure as well as heavier aerial bomb attacks in various places.

    --- Dmitry Peskov appears to be socializing the idea that this is now a war. I don't know if Russia has publicly announced this change in legal terms. Peskov's comments may be a trial balloon to learn if Russians are willing to accept more public aspects of martial law. The Ukrainian attacks on Russian infrastructure probably makes this palatable. A true war status will weaken fifth columnists. It will also pressure oligarchs who have dragged their feet supporting the SMO in the hope it would blow over.

    --- Announcement of mass production of FAB-3000 bombs. This is a very large bomb, over 6000 pounds. I don't know what Ukrainian targets would be suited for this weapon.

    +++

    Bombing the infrastructure of Kharkov may set some things in motion. As the remaining civilians flee in all directions, the Ukrainians will have a fresh choice to either capitulate or see Kharkov ending up like Bakhmut or Grozny. If the Russians are starting to favor aerial bombardment, the increment of damage changes from 60 kilogram artillery shells to bombs between 500 and 3000 kilos. I think the Russians have a conundrum in that they really want to take Kharkov and they really do not want to level it. However, the same is true for Kiev but Kharkov is very close to the border. In the medium case (not the worst, not the best) Kharkov might be leveled in the hope of ultimately preserving Kiev.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke

    Kharkov is going to be processed.

    This will snap the regime of the Jew King in Kiev.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    I agree on Kharkov, the future looks bleak. I doubt that destruction of this Eastern city will be enough to swing Kiev, they have hung in the fight far too long already. The (((West))) wants to kill Slavs in Ukraine; they don't care which ones die so they will keep pushing. Best case is for local authorities in Kharkov to split from Kiev immediately. Kiev may not roll over until Russia puts some serious heat on Dnipro and maybe on key cities in the Western part of Ukraine.

  829. @Matra
    Looks like a total massacre going on in Moscow:

    https://twitter.com/MDeLaBroc1/status/1771236171399516351

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Dmitry, @Wokechoke

    Looks like Team Johnny Johnson at work.

  830. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    May the victims of this extremely atrocious terrorist attack RIP. :( Even Russia did not deserve this.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    If this wasn’t the hand of the CIA up the rear end of their ISIS puppet, we have a bridge to sell you. Islamic Terrorist organisations are the primary tool of the west (including Jews) in the post Soviet space.

    Given all of that the Muscovites will need to have a long hard think about demography. They have a natural frontier with Muslims that’s quite unlike that of most of Europe. The Wild Wild East.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke

    Who hired the actual perps is not unambiguously established yet. All perps were hired via messengers (the way Ukie terrorist masters usually hire perps in the RF). The personalities of the bandits were selected to suggest Islamic connection. The direction they were going after the crime along with vehement denials by Ukie government are suggestive. As is the fact that fake statement of ISIS responsibility was generated and spread by Ukies.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  831. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Please. That is just too disgusting. Miley Cyrus has an excuse. Her family home in Appalachia did not have indoor plumbing before her daddy made the big time.

    Replies: @QCIC

    My conditioning is that girls with noticeable tattoos do hard drugs and are very promiscuous. What is reality?

  832. @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN

    If Russia will conquer Ukraine, then it will get much more Ukie terrorism afterwards.

    This specific terrorist attack was apparently done by ISIS, though.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    That is not how it works. Once more sensible Ukrainians regain control they will police their own potential terrorists and drive out foreign influences. Sadly, Russia has to hammer Ukraine until this sea change occurs.

  833. @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Kharkov is going to be processed.

    This will snap the regime of the Jew King in Kiev.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I agree on Kharkov, the future looks bleak. I doubt that destruction of this Eastern city will be enough to swing Kiev, they have hung in the fight far too long already. The (((West))) wants to kill Slavs in Ukraine; they don’t care which ones die so they will keep pushing. Best case is for local authorities in Kharkov to split from Kiev immediately. Kiev may not roll over until Russia puts some serious heat on Dnipro and maybe on key cities in the Western part of Ukraine.

  834. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    It doesn't add up: the Palis are in a fight for their lives with Russia and Iran among the few who support them. So "ISIS" (whatever hell that is) waits until middle of the Gaza conflict to first attack Iran (2 months ago) and then Russia. Riiiight, these are quite some Islamists...

    No matter who did it, the terror will further inflame the Russian public and lead to more escalation. The war is in Ukraine so it will mostly fall on them.

    Replies: @sudden death

    So “ISIS” (whatever hell that is)

    All RF propjunk fanfares circa 2016-2019 were mainly about fighting/defeating the “ISIS” in Syria, even if it had little to do with realities on the ground as the main RF effort was roughly around east-north areas there. RF now is full to the brim with easily available guns/explosives+Central Asian muslims thanx to alltime genius in charge, so even if charitably thinking that it may be bad apples from just small radicalized minority, the numbers in theory are enough for some organized fanatics of all imaginable flavours to appear, who remember and were influenced by all those narratives.

  835. @S1
    @Dmitry


    I have been living in Netherlands. It’s a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities’ design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.
     
    Yes, that's quite true. I've often found myself greatly impressed by how very similar (for the many obvious reasons) the Dutch and English are to each other.

    Below is a 1969 video from Netherlands television of the Dutch band 'Shocking Blue'. The three male band members shown could all easily pass as English. Some written Dutch language appears in the video, and is quite close to English. Even the 'country' song they are performing, 'Mighty Joe', probably targeting a US audience, has at least some of it's origins in Britain.

    https://youtu.be/KP8ojGKsJFk?si=tketLzD3RDndwoyp

    Replies: @Dmitry

    quite close to English

    Dutch and English are almost like the same language, but Dutch is more similar to the medieval English language, with higher ratio of German words, their accent is quite different and also the transliteration of the words.

    After a few months in Netherlands, your brain adjusts to their unusual accent and naturally maps a lot of the Dutch words on your English language module.

    Example of this video. They are almost mutually intelligible with English if you don’t look at the text because their transliteration method is very different, when you adjust to their different acent. When you know the medieval English vocabulary instead of only the modern English vocabulary, Dutch people using words like “farewell” instead of modern English “goodbye”, “wander” instead of “walking”, “spring” instead of “jump”, “morning” instead of “tomorrow”.

    male band members shown could all easily pass as English.

    Dutch people look more like the middle class English people. Maybe descendants of the part of the settlers which didn’t intermarry too often with the indigenous peoples.

    A thing which can be funny, is Dutch people love to sit on antique, upright bicycles without a helmet. But, some of the areas in England where there is similar architecture, where there are higher rates of educated and scientific people, are behaving like Dutch populations also in using antique, vertical bicycles, without a helmet.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Dmitry

    Danish has some of these qualities too.

    Replies: @QCIC

  836. S1 says:
    @LatW
    @S1


    The long standing plans to create a global super-state may seem ‘vague’, probably as intended, but I can assure you, they are quite real and concrete.
     
    Of course, I am aware of certain negative aspects of globalism (not sure it's the same you're alluding to, it's mostly pertaining to finance), however, whether to call it a "global super-state"... I guess it would have to depend on the definition of "state". The concept of "corporation" can also be broadly applied these days. "Corporation within a state", and such descriptions. "Dynasty" is another interesting concept. "Corporate dynasty" or "Dynastic corporation".

    Someone here a while back liked to use "network" instead of state. Or "network state". A globalist state can also be a network, right? I have a more old fashioned definition of a state, more in line with the 1930s concepts.

    As described in the effectively blacklisted 1853 book, The New Rome
     
    What do you mean by "blacklisted"?

    The other continents of the world, including Europe, are being pushed by the US/UK to follow the US led example. In time, should they succeed, these newly formed continental super-states are to join together to form a global super-state, ie the ‘United States of the World’.
     
    Humans are social and driven instinctively to connect with others - so if you have vastly improved communications technology, this is bound to happen. Also, money often travels upwards, that's a problem. Wealth concentration. This is why wealth needs to be spread via physical public goods, such as infrastructure, medical science, political fairness and high standards on the ground, etc. But, yea, even with all these things in place and a seemingly high living standard, one can still have wealth concentration at the top and some kind of a globalized governance. But to be frank - lately it seems that all of this is falling apart in a way - look at how helpless the UN is and how indebted countries like China are. You'll probably say that these people behind the scenes are orchestrating this as well, a kind of a slow destruction to achieve their goals, but then where are those people? Everyone can be tracked down. The Earth has limited space. :)

    ‘Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.’
     
    Yes, that part is visible, but it's only a group of ideologues who intended it, not most Americans. It's similar to the crazy idea of world Communism. Could be the same idea in a different dressing. Btw, the current US administration seems like it has some serious Communist leanings (old tradition even in the US). Communism mixed with neoliberalism, which is insane. You could see that in Sullivan's last piece - he literally said "This global liberal system helps workers".

    Tbh, I think you're overestimating the power of America with the above quote. They have caused a lot of changes in the world society, but they cannot permeate everywhere. They are trying, but they have to exert quite an effort - the more complex the world becomes, the harder it will be for them. Some people are also checking out of their system (younger white males which used to be a big resource for all these powers).

    The US/UK have successfully goaded the Russians and Ukrainians into fighting a brutal war with the apparent intent that they destroy each other.
    For the same reason of near universal nation destruction they wish that the Baltics and the remainder of Europe join in this war. It’s a trap.

     

    The way it looks it's very easy to describe it as a trap. But then you have to admit that Putin, too, is a globalist, along with 70% of the Russian population who support him, because he is one of the main actors here (and he is not stupid enough to be led into a trap, although he might be messianic enough). Russia should've stopped coveting its neighbors in 1991 and to exert influence over them and found its own new path.

    Europe will not readily jump into this war (with troops). They will wait until Russia is more weakened. Russia may feel this and may try to attack first.

    The population of the EU is 440M, so the nations will not disappear just from one regional war. Which may or may not even happen on the EU soil. The problem is that others are involved too (North Korea, Iran, maybe even China - Ukraine is a sole European nation that is currently fighting all those, almost by itself).

    If you must fight, then at least fight on your own terms, and not terms set by others who do not have your best interests at heart.
     
    This is what Macron is thinking. But not every nation has the luxury to fight "on their terms". The Ukrainian nation was betrayed by the so called "international community". And they were also betrayed by Russia and Belarus.

    No question, there might be an intent by some that the US/UK is ultimately destroyed as well in WWIII.
     
    They have internal problems, the US in particular. Frankly, if I were you, I'd be more worried about the US, especially the demographic side. And maybe even the environmental side.

    there are those that believe that it is the simple mere existance of nations and peoples, rather than their improper behavior towards one another, that is at the root of war.
     
    These are utopian loonies, who think that this could change, there is a dialectic in the world, the world consists of differences that play against one another. These are the teachings of Heraclitus. And, btw, most nations do not even fight each other, many live peacefully side by side. The live peacefully more than they fight. Love and war are both parts of human existence.

    Crudely they believe that by systematically and murderously destroying the existing peoples and nations of the world, peace will magically descend upon the whole of humanity.
     
    Individual humans will still fight each other, it's human nature. The human nature is both to love and to fight. Sounds like these loonies are just using excuses to be able to control and rob people. Robbing of identity is one of the worst, only robbing one of life and freedom is worse.

    ‘Nationality is the root of war. Nations, so soon as they become self-conscious, are associations of people for the purpose of taking away other people’s land..’
     
    Yes, in the most primitive form, a nation is a war band. But not just to take land and other things, but to defend what's theirs. We may love the individual human being as the most valuable, but we are first and foremost a tribe.

    I know that some really hate that concept as it has become alien to them. Yet they do find "their tribe" elsewhere (in corporations, "special interest groups" or elsewhere).

    Some people think we are "earthlings", that's just so cute and naive. :) Who knows, it might be true...

    Replies: @S1

    What do you mean by “blacklisted”?

    I mean that you almost certainly will not have heard of the book (ie The New Rome) on any radio, newspaper, or, television, other than some obscure Marxist orientated academic journals, denouncing it as ‘imperialist”. I think to an extent that’s deliberate.

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    ‘Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.’

    Yes, that part is visible, but it’s only a group of ideologues who intended it, not most Americans.

    One could say that since the founding of the United States there have been two America’s at war with each other. The one America which wanted to be a traditional ethnically based country, and which people had been led to believe they had, particularly in time of war, and wished to simply be left alone, and another America, which was merely an ‘idea’, and wanted to create a global super-state, or ’empire’, to be dominated by the US.

    While most people wanted the former, the latter minority ‘ideologues’ as you call them, often enough members of secret societies and their hangers on, have held the bulk of politicpower since the country was founded.

    It’s similar to the crazy idea of world Communism. Could be the same idea in a different dressing.

    Yes, Capitalism and Communism, rather than being diametrically opposed, are instead closely paralleling complimentary sister ideologies,. [But that shouldn’t be too surprising, as heavy hitter Capitalist US founders Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and probably Ben Franklin, were quite involved at the ground floor of the founding of Communism in their support of (and involvement in) the proto-Communist French Revolution of 1789.]

    Btw, the current US administration seems like it has some serious Communist leanings (old tradition even in the US).

    You are very right. It does. [I’ll have to stop here due to time constraints. I’ve been extremely busy of late. I haven’t done your lengthy thoughtful response justice, I’m afraid.]

    • Replies: @LatW
    @S1


    The one America which wanted to be a traditional ethnically based country, and which people had been led to believe they had
     
    Not taking away from your point of "two Americas", I just feel like nitpicking a little - when you say "ethnically", I'm not sure it's fully accurate here. I know which ethnicity you have in mind, of course, however, let's not forget that one third of the colonists were German and German was widely spoken for a long time in America. The first Bible in America was published in German. Later the Anglos pushed out the German language.

    And, of course, there were French and Spanish present as well in a significant way, very early on. Normally, I wouldn't nitpick like this (as I am deeply Anglophile), but it is 2024 when anything goes. :)

    Yes, Capitalism and Communism, rather than being diametrically opposed, are instead closely paralleling complimentary sister ideologies.
     
    I wouldn't go as far as to state that, but both of these ideologies are a way to organize large masses and both are somewhat aggressive (Communism more so than Capitalism, but maybe each in their own way), and people often strive for overarching, uniting ideologies. It also depends on what one means by "capitalism" - the classical Max Weber version or the more complex and controversial type of today's global capitalism (which in some cases can no longer even be defined as pure capitalism).

    Btw, speaking of English and Northern Germanic languages - while they are very similar indeed, the one thing that really sets English apart is the latinization or the Romanization (the influence of French). The Latin words so common in English are simply not as prevalent in languages such as Norwegian (and even Dutch). For example, in Norwegian, all of these Latin words used in English actually have a local equivalent - conversation (Latin root) - samtale (Germanic root, literally, meaning "speaking together", pure English version would be something like "same telling" 0r "talking together"), development (Latin) - utvikling (Germanic), question (Latin origin) - spørsmål (Germanic). Etc, etc, hundreds and hundreds of these.

    From Library of Congress:

    "By the middle of the 18th century, German immigrants occupied a central place in American life. Germans accounted for one-third of the population of the American colonies, and were second in number only to the English. The German language was widely spoken in nearly every colonial city and was circulated in locally published periodicals and books. When the members of the Continental Congress first met in Philadelphia, they walked down streets lined with German businesses sporting German signs, and their deliberations were reported in German broadsides and debated in German coffeehouses. When the Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4, 1776, a German newspaper was the first to break the news, and German copies of the Declaration were on the streets the next day.

    The strength and vitality of German publishing was one of the cornerstones of German culture in America, and one of the reasons for its tremendous success. Since Johannes Gutenberg invented movable type in 1440, Germans had been at the forefront of the printing industry in Europe, and they carried this tradition with them to the American colonies. The first Bible in America was published in German by Christopher Saur, a German printer in Philadelphia.

    By the time of the American Revolution, most of the cities and large towns in the colonies supported at least one German newspaper, and some had two. German newspapers, broadsides, almanacs, and books became the glue that held the German American community together, and helped maintain a sense of social cohesion among immigrants that were scattered widely up and down the eastern seaboard, in bustling cities and in remote farm settlements. This cultural glue held its force for hundreds of years, and reinforced German Americans' identity well into the 20th century.

    The military traditions of German-speaking immigrants also made a significant contribution to revolutionary America. At the outbreak of the Revolutionary War, Germans from all over the American colonies formed volunteer militia companies. General Friedrich Wilhelm Von Steuben, who had served as a general staff officer with the Prussian army, volunteered to serve General George Washington without pay and was put to work organizing and drilling the sometimes ragged volunteers of the Continental Army. Von Steuben's Prussian discipline and tactics were to a large degree responsible for the Revolutionists' later military victories, and his manual of regulations formed the basis of the manual of drill and organization used by the United States Army today."

    Americans, do not forget where you came from!
  837. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    You sound prepared to join our anti-anti-anti-vaxxer squad.

    Some are still driving Unz to distraction. In the Sachs thread he did his bolded announcement of no anti-vaxxer comments you stupid morons three times the last I looked.

    Replies: @Beckow

    I am not much for joining anything, and definitely not “squads”. It sounds vaguely working class, I am too posh for that…

    My personal view is that both C19 and vaccines were medical mini-events blown way out of proportion. But sticking vaccines repeatedly into oneself was quite stupid on its face. And the real idiots were people sticking that useless sh.t with unknown risks into little kids. That was outright evil.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    It sounds vaguely working class, I am too posh for that…
     
    This bears a family resemblance to Karlin's view that only losers resist the corona experimental gene medicine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

  838. @Dmitry
    @Coconuts


    The wealthiest areas of England

     

    I have been living in Netherlands. It's a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities' design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.

    Some things in the city planning can be related. When those cities are constructed, there was maybe the mutual history of England and Netherlands the 17th and 18th century in the development of capitalism and imperialism.

    -

    I don't know if you can agree with me these kind of cities are similar?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzBTgxhKIM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRks_JVPfk

    The buildings which are before the 19th century, are from a similar architecture school and Netherlands-England city planning is not so different before the 19th century.


    Ireland has never tried to establish an economic socialist regime. The most that has been attempted is more like a variant of Social Catholicism, something like that.

     

    Politics of Ireland can also be more influenced by the Catholic victim culture and internationalism.

    Even some of the ROI's "cynical capitalist" political culture today to be outsourcing government to international organizations is not only divergent to the historical Catholic path outsourcing authority to the Pope.

    There is a significant difference today compared to Great Britain in terms of the right-left distribution of the ordinary population. You can guess Geert Wilders could be popular in England, you couldn't imagine Geert Wilders in ROI. If Conor McGregor begins a political career soon, he would probably go to the USA where he could have attained more mainstream political support.


    Germanic areas of Europe like the Netherlands and Germany itself, which are also more developed economically than the Celtic areas of Britain.
     
    Netherlands' culture is more functional than England. the working class and upper class people.

    England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn't have this upper class. But the average city in the Netherlands is more civilized.

    It's like the transport and bicycle fashions which is for norma peoplel in the Netherlands, is the culture of upper class hipster areas in England.

    Replies: @S1, @Coconuts

    I have been living in Netherlands. It’s a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities’ design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.

    Some things in the city planning can be related. When those cities are constructed, there was maybe the mutual history of England and Netherlands the 17th and 18th century in the development of capitalism and imperialism.

    I was in Amsterdam recently and I noticed this, even more recently built housing estates seemed to resemble some of the ones in Britain, just with what looks like better quality construction.

    I remember some years ago looking at this book when it came out:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Going-Dutch-England-Plundered-Hollands/dp/0007197349/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.QrtCmhXeUYG4_PdBpC9q1QuNdbj31Cl4Df5mdE0L5Iyf2sVIEOPh2Ti0IirDCUnw.5FPuII7KTgDC8ruDb8ytHZb6R5IdhVgb8AJ4Gfq0IgM&dib_tag=se&keywords=lisa+jardine+going+dutch&qid=1711185209&sr=8-1

    It describes some of the cultural contacts in the 17th century.

    England famously ended up with a Dutch king following the Glorious Revolution in 1688, who came to protect the English middle classes (it’s often described in this way). England had a long history of involvement with the Netherlands even by then.

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    There is a significant difference today compared to Great Britain in terms of the right-left distribution of the ordinary population. You can guess Geert Wilders could be popular in England, you couldn’t imagine Geert Wilders in ROI. If Conor McGregor begins a political career soon, he would probably go to the USA where he could have attained more mainstream political support.

    In Britain the right-wing, in the form of the conservative party, has historically been much stronger. I am not sure what the nearest Irish equivalent would be, Fine Gael? But people like Wilders and McGregor would probably be popular in my own region of the UK as well, where since the early part of the 20th century until the 2010s the vast majority always voted for the left-wing and a lot of people would be favourable to socialism.

    There has been this realignment happening in politics, where wealthy people and the establishment supports the left as much as the right, and people who used to vote solidly for the left might support right-populist figures like Nigel Farage. Their economic views really conflict but they are attracted to them for other reasons.

    England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn’t have this upper class. But the average city in the Netherlands is more civilized.

    I would agree with this. Amsterdam and the surrounding area seemed attractive from an aspirational point of view, like it was more developed than my own part of the UK.

    Dutch is quite an attractive language, it can sound like extreme West Country or ‘Yokel’ English dialects. In the UK these would be associated with rustic populations and low socio-economic and educational status, but in the case of Dutch the opposite is the case which makes it interesting.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Coconuts

    You can now get your fix of Dutch caffeine in my neighborhood. I can't tell you whether the joe is any good or not, since I stopped frequenting drive through coffee emporiums several years ago. Apparently, they offer food too:

    https://10619-2.s.cdn12.com/rests/original/504_503428442.jpg

    This new franchise looks interesting too. They've apparently taken the Dutch interest in cannabis highs one step further:

    https://www.azcentral.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2024/02/13/PPHX/72586602007-microsoft-teamsimage-119.png?width=372&height=495&format=pjpg&auto=webp

  839. @Dmitry
    @Mr. XYZ

    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.

    -

    The example of the escape of the Huguenots, was a persecution in France of some of the most educated population. Calvinists were one of the socioeconomically developed groups in France before the Catholics were massacring them.

    Huguenot refugees escaping France and Flanders, probably in the long range increased a lot of the power of England and the Dutch Republic in relation to France. Descendants of Huguenot refugee families installed the Bank of England in London. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_du_Quesne,_the_Younger

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts, @Wokechoke

    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.

    It seems to be true, both with Calvinism and Jansenism, the Catholic Calvinism-lite variant that appeared in France in the mid-17th century.

    An interesting thing is where the attraction of these harsh theologies (i.e. TULIP) lay for these more educated social groups. Nowadays the same time of people will probably find Orthodox theology more appealing, which stands at the opposite end of the Christian spectrum.

    Many Huguenots occupied NCO and junior officer ranks in the French army before 1685, when Louis XIV started to expel them they joined the Dutch and English armies where they were useful to William in the 9 Years War and in Ireland.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Coconuts


    Dutch the opposite is the case which makes it interesting.

     

    I don't know about the topic. I would guess modern Dutch people would be more related to populations of the regions of England, which are generally higher socioeconomic level today? The earliest settlement zone of the Dutch/English common ancestors was South England.

    https://i.imgur.com/PvK3JTO.png

    Then in the 5-7th century, larger modern area of Netherlands were settled by Angles' and Saxons' populations.


    who came to protect the English middle classes (it’s often described in this way).

     

    In the caste-system of England, even in the 20th century, a lot of the "brahmin families" were still descended from some medieval Norman mafia clans.

    Normans were mainly interested in mafia things and didn't have a strong culture identity, so they almost dissolved into Ireland or Italy.

    In England, their ancestors still were continuing as large part of the elite for almost one thousand years.

    Ancestors of Oswald Mosley, politician who was supporter of Mussolini and Hitler in the 1930s, have this name, "Ernald de Mosley (fl. 12th century), Lord of the Manor of Moseley, Staffordshire, during the reign of King John."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

    Wife of Oswald Mosley, who was a supporter of Trotsky in the 1930s, was called "Curzon" from the village of Courson in Normandy, France.

    Some descendant Normans live in their ancestors' fortified mafia house for 900 years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazlewood_Castle


    Nowadays the same time of people will probably find Orthodox
     
    Those middle class demographics today don't usually go to religions from a different historical epoch, which already died 2-3 centuries ago for educated people. But, maybe middle class people aren't completely different today.


    For urban middle class, crossfit, keto-genic diets, marathon running. Probably, today Calvin's life style recommendation will seem moderate, when we could evaluation them in relation to some of the middle class peoples' fashions.


    Huguenots occupied NCO and junior officer ranks in the French army before 1685, when Louis XIV started to expel them they joined the Dutch and English armies where they were useful to William in the 9 Years War and in Ireland
     
    I was reading maybe the same article. https://ugp.rug.nl/groniek/article/download/30221/27521/36048

    Replies: @songbird, @Philip Owen

  840. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Coconuts

    Also after the edit window closed on me I realized I had forgot to mention:

    in the diaries Junger is vague on the subject of all his friends who were arrested and executed after the bomb plot at Hitler. He may have thought the spies were breaking into his apartment and reading his diary while he was out working and partying. It is other writers who supply the details about all his friends getting killed.

    Replies: @Coconuts

    …in the diaries Junger is vague on the subject of all his friends who were arrested and executed after the bomb plot at Hitler.

    I think for some time after summer 1940 French society was stunned and it took a while for the pre-war feuds and divisions to re-emerge in the new context the Germans had created. French anti-German feeling dated back a long way into the 19th century.

    Junger is known for keeping his distance from National Socialism and avoiding Nazi attempts to get him to associate with them, often I’ve seen him described as a leading figure in the non-Nazi ‘German Conservative Revolution’ movement from between the wars.

  841. @Dmitry
    @S1


    quite close to English
     
    Dutch and English are almost like the same language, but Dutch is more similar to the medieval English language, with higher ratio of German words, their accent is quite different and also the transliteration of the words.

    After a few months in Netherlands, your brain adjusts to their unusual accent and naturally maps a lot of the Dutch words on your English language module.

    Example of this video. They are almost mutually intelligible with English if you don't look at the text because their transliteration method is very different, when you adjust to their different acent. When you know the medieval English vocabulary instead of only the modern English vocabulary, Dutch people using words like "farewell" instead of modern English "goodbye", "wander" instead of "walking", "spring" instead of "jump", "morning" instead of "tomorrow".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCx8YGrgVz0


    male band members shown could all easily pass as English.
     
    Dutch people look more like the middle class English people. Maybe descendants of the part of the settlers which didn't intermarry too often with the indigenous peoples.

    A thing which can be funny, is Dutch people love to sit on antique, upright bicycles without a helmet. But, some of the areas in England where there is similar architecture, where there are higher rates of educated and scientific people, are behaving like Dutch populations also in using antique, vertical bicycles, without a helmet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y_NmpxZPjM

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Danish has some of these qualities too.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    I think Norwegian is about halfway between German and English.

  842. @Dmitry
    @Mr. XYZ

    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.

    -

    The example of the escape of the Huguenots, was a persecution in France of some of the most educated population. Calvinists were one of the socioeconomically developed groups in France before the Catholics were massacring them.

    Huguenot refugees escaping France and Flanders, probably in the long range increased a lot of the power of England and the Dutch Republic in relation to France. Descendants of Huguenot refugee families installed the Bank of England in London. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_du_Quesne,_the_Younger

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts, @Wokechoke

    Hugenots were mainly textile manufacturers.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Wokechoke

    Crypto-Jewish?

  843. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    I recall hearing that multivitamins don’t seem to increase lifespan. But perhaps, they can still help quality of life?
     
    In any case, I don't think that using supplements will shorten anybody's life. I look at supplements like a gardener looks at enriching the soil to get the most out of his plants. Take a look at even roses, after including some fertilizer and other nutrients back into the soil, the flowers and leaves look bigger and healthier. Or an auto mechanic adding lubricants and cleaners to an engine, everything runs much better afterwards. One can do wonders for one's health by adding only three supplements to a dietary regimen: 1) a good multivitamin that includes a good and large proportion of the B vitamins. 2) A high quality fish oil supplement including a high dosage of omega 3's. 3) Magnesium, so crucial for all of the body's function that so few people get from their normal diets. Of course, nothing beats a good diet, but how does one know if you're really getting enough of the good nutrients that are needed?

    a lot of medical journals use paywalls, even though they are funded by tax dollars and private grants, and a lot of the science is bad.
     
    I am able to access a lot of good research articles that provide great and cutting edge information related to health issues. Also, I obtain a monthly publication from "Life Extension" for free (just for occasionally buying a supplement) that include cutting edge articles too.

    Although I believe you about your relative who got ripped off by some unscrupulous driver, and can imagine other such incidents, but I thought that we were discussing the costs attributed to passengers to and from clinics that specialize in dialysis treatment? Millions of people everyday avail themselves of much lower cost alternatives than $500 or even $1,000 per trip.

    Replies: @songbird

    Am afraid that LatW will outlive us all, by using banned whale extracts.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    A good schmear of whale blubber with some thinly sliced garlic on top of some good grainy dark bread? I'd at least try some...

    Replies: @songbird

  844. Friendly Erdogan also might wanted to sent specific congratulations and remembered that he’s still waiting for Putin to visit Ankara?

    The detained militant admitted that he flew to Russia from Turkey, where he received documents.

    https://t.me/moxvictoria/38357

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @sudden death

    Just a reminder that the Baltic fucktards allowed the terrorist murderer of Daria Dugina to escape via their borders with Russia.

    The escape ( in theory) could not indicate compliance........but the non-attempt at arresting, questioning, even hint at extradition certainly is compliance. Although to be fair a role in the terrorist murder of an innocent young women is THE most successful Baltard military action of the last 500 years.

  845. A123 says: • Website

    Despite the ISIS claim of responsibility. Early evidence points elsewhere: (1)

    Four of the people detained were directly involved in the attack, Russia’s Investigative Committee said. The suspects were stopped in the Bryansk region of western Russia, “not far from the border with Ukraine,” it said.

    Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova seized on the implications regarding Ukraine. “Now we know in which country these murderous bastards were planning to hide from prosecution — Ukraine,” Zakharova said on social media on Saturday.

    Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, seems to be tied to the terror attack. Was this:
        • A transgression against the Paris/Berlin script?
        • Ordered by the Islamophile European Empire?

    The later is quite possible.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-terror-attack-death-toll-suspects-arrested/

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @A123


    Putin said that the terrorists were rushing to the Ukrainian border, where a window had been prepared for them.

    At the same time, other information came from Belarus:

    “The head of the State Security Committee is in direct contact with his colleague. And in fact, the main task of last night was to prevent terrorists from escaping across our common border. This task has been completed,” BelTA quotes him as saying.

    In other words, the terrorists, according to the Belarusians, were rushing in a slightly different direction. And the Belarusian KGB, in his words, provided and helped in the arrest.

    In this case, someone is lying. Well, or he doesn’t have the information. It turns out that the Belarusian KGB is lying, cause our leader is known strictly for his pure honesty.
     
    https://t.me/anatoly_nesmiyan/17381

    Replies: @A123

  846. AP says:

    Azerbaijan has figured it out: the Armenians did it.

    From the Azeri Times:

    “ The terrorist attack at a Moscow mall, owned by an Azerbaijani billionaire, specifically targeting the Muslim Magomayev Hall, named after the renowned Azerbaijani opera singer, has shifted attention towards a potential Armenian link to the incident”

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    Good to know, however, I'm not sure that this will be enough to subside Professor Janissar's ire with the Ukies, whom he considers to be the most detestable human beings that walk the earth: "Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs." Glad that I don't live anywhere near Tennessee...I wonder if the school administrators where he works know that he has accumulated this huge reservoir of angst against both Ukrainians and Central Asians?

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @John Johnson
    @AP

    ISIL already took responsibility.

    Unz is yet again another graveyard of conspiracy fails by posters that couldn't wait 2-3 hours before speculating.

    , @Dmitry
    @AP

    Azeri Times journalists are only paid to promote that agenda, we can guess.

    Crocus City Hall in Moscow, the terrorists attacked, is one of important infrastructures for the Baku-Moscow cultural diplomacy. Crocus would be inherited by the next generation of Azerbaijan's ruling family, as property owned by Aliev's grandchildrens' father and grandfather. It was like a palace ballroom of Azerbaijan's royal family.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/C1PhYAWtGOm They used it for promoting Baku in Moscow.

  847. @A123
    Despite the ISIS claim of responsibility. Early evidence points elsewhere: (1)

    Four of the people detained were directly involved in the attack, Russia’s Investigative Committee said. The suspects were stopped in the Bryansk region of western Russia, “not far from the border with Ukraine,” it said.

    Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova seized on the implications regarding Ukraine. “Now we know in which country these murderous bastards were planning to hide from prosecution — Ukraine,” Zakharova said on social media on Saturday.

     

    Führer Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, seems to be tied to the terror attack. Was this:
        • A transgression against the Paris/Berlin script?
        • Ordered by the Islamophile European Empire?

    The later is quite possible.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-terror-attack-death-toll-suspects-arrested/

    Replies: @sudden death

    Putin said that the terrorists were rushing to the Ukrainian border, where a window had been prepared for them.

    At the same time, other information came from Belarus:

    “The head of the State Security Committee is in direct contact with his colleague. And in fact, the main task of last night was to prevent terrorists from escaping across our common border. This task has been completed,” BelTA quotes him as saying.

    In other words, the terrorists, according to the Belarusians, were rushing in a slightly different direction. And the Belarusian KGB, in his words, provided and helped in the arrest.

    In this case, someone is lying. Well, or he doesn’t have the information. It turns out that the Belarusian KGB is lying, cause our leader is known strictly for his pure honesty.

    https://t.me/anatoly_nesmiyan/17381

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death

    Bryansk Oblast shares a border with Belarus. So, I am not sure why your histrionic source prematurely jumped to "lying" as the explanation. It is much more likely that only partial facts have widely reached the public.

    There could be slightly garbled reporting about a co-operative effort with both Belarus and Russian security services. They are allies after all.

    Another possibility is, multiple groups of runners. Some tried to transit Belarus to reach the safety promised by Führer Zelensky. While others attempted a more direct route to their anti-Semitic commanders.

    Regardless of the minutiae. It looks bad for Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, and his European IslamoGloboHomo puppet masters.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @sudden death

  848. If the Chinese invented printing, how come only one copy of the Yongle Encyclopedia was ever made?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yongle_Encyclopedia

    Am not questioning the idea that they had printing, but it seems incomprehensible to me. No explanation I’ve heard makes any sense.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Maybe the Chinese simply didn't view printing as that big of a deal, especially in regards to spreading information to the masses, whom they feared might get/develop subversive ideas if exposed to the printing press on a huge scale and the mass publication of new ideas that it would have allowed?

    Replies: @songbird

  849. A123 says: • Website
    @sudden death
    @A123


    Putin said that the terrorists were rushing to the Ukrainian border, where a window had been prepared for them.

    At the same time, other information came from Belarus:

    “The head of the State Security Committee is in direct contact with his colleague. And in fact, the main task of last night was to prevent terrorists from escaping across our common border. This task has been completed,” BelTA quotes him as saying.

    In other words, the terrorists, according to the Belarusians, were rushing in a slightly different direction. And the Belarusian KGB, in his words, provided and helped in the arrest.

    In this case, someone is lying. Well, or he doesn’t have the information. It turns out that the Belarusian KGB is lying, cause our leader is known strictly for his pure honesty.
     
    https://t.me/anatoly_nesmiyan/17381

    Replies: @A123

    Bryansk Oblast shares a border with Belarus. So, I am not sure why your histrionic source prematurely jumped to “lying” as the explanation. It is much more likely that only partial facts have widely reached the public.

    There could be slightly garbled reporting about a co-operative effort with both Belarus and Russian security services. They are allies after all.

    Another possibility is, multiple groups of runners. Some tried to transit Belarus to reach the safety promised by Führer Zelensky. While others attempted a more direct route to their anti-Semitic commanders.

    Regardless of the minutiae. It looks bad for Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, and his European IslamoGloboHomo puppet masters.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    It is much more likely that only partial facts have widely reached the public.
     
    And yet you're able to make this wildly questionable assertion:

    It looks bad for Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, and his European IslamoGloboHomo puppet masters
     
    Which only proves that when it comes to spinning wackjob conspiracy theories, you're still the best.

    Don't you think that it's time for Herr Putler to launch even more missile attacks against apartment buildings in Ukraine where elderly civilians and their grand children live, to continue the valiant Russian defensive war? (did you even know that it's been now been officially dubbed as a war and not a schmo?) You're such a queer nutjob, kremlinstoogeA123.

    Maybe we should take a poll here and ask whether readers here believe that Zelensky hates Jews more than you hate Ukrainians?

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @sudden death
    @A123

    Those fugitive terrorists were tracked and detained in the village of Teply exactly near the border with Belarus in different direction from the road which was leading to UA:

    https://i.postimg.cc/W3PLNqyp/crocuscatch.jpg

    https://t.me/kartografo/1956

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  850. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Am afraid that LatW will outlive us all, by using banned whale extracts.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    A good schmear of whale blubber with some thinly sliced garlic on top of some good grainy dark bread? I’d at least try some…

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    The Inuit used to get their vitamin C from eating whale skin. I'd rather eat an orange.

    Their vitamin D came from eating raw blubber. Would rather drink a glass of milk. But have heard that Inuit children eat it like it was candy.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

  851. AP says:
    @Dmitry
    @AP

    Doesn't the early, Pilgrim settlement select for people who join religious cults, which would be more religious motivated people? Puritan settlers were a community with a lot of religious and idealist mentality, famous for some "social activities" like in Salem. Plymouth Colony seems like a 17th century Gush Emunim.

    Dutch tolerated the Plymouth Colony in Leiden, after they escaped from the English police, before they go to America like they were tolerating many of the religious minorities, often it was probably for partly economic motivation.


    -
    Port cities of the Netherlands was like the Singapore economy in the 17th century.

    People believe the famous Dutch religious tolerance has quite a lot of economic origins. The Dutch philosemitism, can be originating in economic interest of the House of Orange from the Jewish trading networks. Some of the mansions in Amsterdam are from Jewish merchant families that had escaped from Spain and Portugal.

    The House of Orange welcomed a lot of Huguenot refugees that escaped from France partly because of the economic motivation, some of the persecuted religious minorities like Huguenots had a high proportion of skilled workers, merchants, also soldiers.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Doesn’t the early, Pilgrim settlement select for people who join religious cults, which would be more religious motivated people? Puritan settlers were a community with a lot of religious and idealist mentality, famous for some “social activities” like in Salem.

    Yes, but they were also very much middle class tradesmen and shopkeepers. There was even a sort of stereotype – the Yankee trader. One could be both a Protestant religious fanatic and a prosperous, highly educated shopkeeper or merchant in those days.

    There was also an infamous witch trial in the Netherlands, albeit 80 years before Salem (1610):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bredevoort_witch_trials

    ” More people, both women and men, where prosecuted, subjected to ordeal by water, tortured to confess and name accomplices, who were then also arrested. Ten men and women where executed by burning for witchcraft in Bredevoort in 1610. The Bredevoort witch trials was the perhaps last witch trial conducted by The Dutch Republic resulting in death sentences.”

    People believe the famous Dutch religious tolerance has quite a lot of economic origins. The Dutch philosemitism

    The oldest American synagogue is in Rhode Island:

    https://tourosynagogue.org/history/

    The building is from the 1750s, but the congregation had been there since the 1650s. These Jews, like the ones in Amsterdam, were of Spanish and Portuguese origins.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    The oldest American synagogue is in Rhode Island:

    https://tourosynagogue.org/history/

    The building is from the 1750s, but the congregation had been there since the 1650s. These Jews, like the ones in Amsterdam, were of Spanish and Portuguese origins.
     
    Most US Jews were Sephardim until the 1800s, when Ashkenazi German and later Eastern European Jews moved to the US in huge numbers. For instance, Emma Lazarus, the author of the Statue of Liberty poem, was 7/8 Sephardi and only 1/8 (German Jewish) Ashkenazi, IIRC.
  852. @AP
    Azerbaijan has figured it out: the Armenians did it.

    From the Azeri Times:

    “ The terrorist attack at a Moscow mall, owned by an Azerbaijani billionaire, specifically targeting the Muslim Magomayev Hall, named after the renowned Azerbaijani opera singer, has shifted attention towards a potential Armenian link to the incident”



    https://twitter.com/Sharon_Kuruvila/status/1771277074822561908?s=20

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @Dmitry

    Good to know, however, I’m not sure that this will be enough to subside Professor Janissar’s ire with the Ukies, whom he considers to be the most detestable human beings that walk the earth: “Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.” Glad that I don’t live anywhere near Tennessee…I wonder if the school administrators where he works know that he has accumulated this huge reservoir of angst against both Ukrainians and Central Asians?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The terror attack at the concert will raise public support in Russia for both martial law and a more serious military campaign in Ukraine.

    Hack you are a creep for making doxxing hints.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  853. @Wokechoke
    @Dmitry

    Danish has some of these qualities too.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think Norwegian is about halfway between German and English.

  854. AP says:
    @Gerard1234
    @AP


    You have been gone and disconnected from the former USSR for so long
     
    An amusingly, idiotic lie....a bizarre pitiful attempt to reverse my FACTUAL insults about you having zero connection to Russia and 404.

    for so long that you’ve forgotten that there are two rounds.
     
    err.....no, shit-for-brains. That 's just you projecting that you are embarrassed by the contents of my post and have frantically used wikipedia to try and put some instantaneous BS on here - and in the process discovered for yourself about the 2 rounds! Of course I knew that, and of course its completely irrelevant as 2 candidate elections are common across the world......and 5% vs 95% for the candidate is completely abnormal for these other countries you idiot.

    I realise that for subhuman trash as yourself, even making me look at and write the numbers on here is "peremoga", but I will do it anyway:

    1991 elections- Galician provinces/iodine-free zones.....12,14,17% for Kravchuk ( with the subsequent non-Banderatard migration out of Galicia that 13,14,17% is still about 0% with Galician khokhols)

    1994-Galician/iodine........89,91&91% for Kravchuk, 2nd Round....94,94&95% for Kravchuk. Kuchma?.......a massively competitive 4% for all of them.

    OK - new state, this discrepancy for the first 2 elections could be understandable.....but then we get to the next election:

    1999 - 92% in second round all for Kuchma in the galician shitholes. Simonyenko......5%.!!!Lugansk? the voting 53 vs 41%.

    Indeed, this region had the most competitive politics
     
    So in the mind of a mentally deranged, compulsive liar wacko as yourself 92 vs 5 % is "more competitive" than 53 vs 41%???!!!!! LMFAO

    2004 - 89, 87 & 88% for Yushchenko. 2nd (well, that's another, CIA , issue) Round ....96,94 & 96%. That's with Yanu being the best continuity candidate from Kuchma, who they voted 92% for the previous election.... and for all the many problems at that time - in that year the economic growth from low base was particularly high. Again, completely abnormal that Yanukovich could not only lose but be completely uncompetitive in these retard-zones of Galicia......while a total loser as Yushchenko was at North Korea support level.

    2010 - with Timoshenko being a big part of Orange "revolution", then Yushchenko's PM, then him initiating criminal case against her , and with Yanukovich then bringing stability and sanity to Yushchenko's freakshow Orange government, and with many people thinking Timoshenko is more pro-Russian than Yanukovich, and even more interconnected with Russian finance...............in this typically nonsensical, schizofrenik khokhol "masterpiece"........... Galician inbreds vote for her highly in the first round and at 88 & 89% levels in the second!!!

    Even in the second round Yanukovich got a higher % of votes in Luhansk than Tymoshenko got in Galicia.
     
    LMAO - so having read the results - like the autistic fantasist dipshit you are, you shamelessly write this over a discrepancy of 0.08%!!!!! Basic point you cretin is that Yanukovich has personal connection and deep business relation to Donbass ( Donetsk then the wealthiest part of 404) .........Timoshenko has NONE of that to Galicia. Donetsk the most urbanised, industrialised and economic part of 404 -, Galicia the complete opposite .....so its entirely unsurprising through natural and unatural methods of administrative resource for Yanu's results in Donbass - Timoshenko getting the same in Galicia is completely ridiculous, LOL.

    As you know, Ukrainians laugh at Chechen soldiers. Call them tic tok warriors.
     
    Err no . Idiotic BS. Tik tok is though about the only thing Ukronazis can do semi-competently. Although with events today I have zero appetite to discuss this point

    Replies: @AP

    [Discussion about voting patterns]

    1999 – 92% in second round all for Kuchma in the galician

    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.

    2004 – 89, 87 & 88% for Yushchenko. 2nd (well, that’s another, CIA , issue) Round ….96,94 & 96%. That’s with Yanu being the best continuity candidate from Kuchma, who they voted 92% for the previous election…

    Small Soviet civil “engineer” brain can’t cope with simple reality.

    When the choice was between Kuchma and a Communist (1999) 90+% of Galicians voted for Kuchma. When the choice was between a Donbas criminal oligarch supported by Communists and Yushchenko, 90+% of Galicians voted for Yushchenko.

    you shamelessly write this over a discrepancy of 0.08%

    Indeed. Yanukovich got 89% in Luhansk but Tymoshenko got 88.9% in Ivano-Frankivsk.

    I wrote that for one reason – because you stated:

    “highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk – but this ‘vote” happened!

    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil “engineer” you don’t know that 88.9% is less than 89%. Maybe you think because the former number has more digits it must be bigger.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.

    You were caught and then you cried “autism”, as if one must be autistic to understand basic concepts like 88.9% is smaller than 89%.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.
     
    LMAO.
    1. WTF is Kravchuk in 1994?
    2. Every single Warsaw/ex USSR country had some pro-communist reversal during the 1990's as every country had immediate post-Communist problem. States as Hungary and the Baltics had passed the worst of this by 1999. 404 certainly not. Russia certainly not. Plus they were NEVER ever anti-communist in Galicia ( in fact very communist) to these levels. Those numbers are simply abnormal, against human nature....particularly for the poorest, stupidest part of 404.

    When the choice was between Kuchma and a Communist (1999) 90+% of Galicians voted for Kuchma. When the choice was between a Donbas criminal oligarch supported by Communists and Yushchenko, 90+% of Galicians voted for Yushchenko.
     
    LMAO - this isn't an ice cream flavour selection you retard. Your paragraph is too stupid to further discuss.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.
     
    Sure - none of the Soviet roads could bend, twist and dance like the American Tacoma narrow bridge, LOL. ( Across the world a textbook, classic, most famous example of civil enginering f**kup, outside of the Kiev metro post-1991)

    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil “engineer” you don’t know that 88.9% is less than 89%.
     
    Just your autistic cretinism, again. Having the same amount of support in Galicia , as Yanu in Donbass is totally ridiculous. Would be like saying Nazis "only" killed 5 890 000 Jews and not 6 million and using it as an example of Holocaust "deceit from the Jews".

    Replies: @AP

  855. AP says:
    @Gerard1234
    @AP


    BTW the head of the French Foreign Legion is an of ethnic Ukrainian descent born in France, Brigadier General Kyrylo Yushchenko:
     
    And the head of the VSU is an ethnic Russian, born in Russia, parents and brother living in Moscow, with an adopted son living in Australia.....who also thinks he's a scumbag. WTF is your point?

    Kyrylo Yushchenko
     
    OR, as his parents would know him as.........Kyrill Yushchenko. At least there is some genuine attempt at virtue signalling BS when Mr Hack does this artificial khokholisation. When a mentally deranged imbecile, who cant speak the language, and who I assume still writes "Nikolai Gogol" on here, as you do does it.............its highly comedic.

    ethnic Ukrainian descent
     
    1. No such thing exists

    2. Neither of us know if he's a Banderetard, white emigree or whatever type of heritage to explain how his family arrived in France or if he's 98% russian descent

    3. His name could genuinely not be Slavic at all but the actually the french equivalent of Cyril. He was born there - so that's normal. What is not normal, but typical for the failure Banderastan freakshow is Petliura , not being born in France , only lived there 1 0r 2 years ,having/changing his name to "Simon" instead of Semyon. I don't think he did this in France either!

    Literally WTF is it with the endless list of ukronazi scum - colossal failures, corrupt, sadistic, militarily useless, completely non-patriotic in actions.........and even in names!!!!
    Any other nationalist ideologist across the world in history ever changed their name AGAINST the side they are supposedly fighting for? A minor issue, but hugely symptomatic of khokholism generally.

    Replies: @AP

    the head of the VSU is an ethnic Russian, born in Russia, parents and brother living in Moscow

    Further proof that Russians are not being discriminated against by the Ukrainian government based on their ethnicity. One of them is head of Ukraine’s military.

    Kyrylo Yushchenko [head of French foreing legion]

    OR, as his parents would know him as………Kyrill Yushchenko

    Who knows?

    But it’s interesting that he is of Ukrainian ethnic descent. Perhaps even some very distant cousin of Ukraine’s former president.

    Neither of us know if he’s a Banderetard, white emigree or whatever type of heritage to explain how his family arrived in France

    That’s why I merely wrote that he is Ukrainian descent, and not that he is some kind of diaspora Ukrainian. There are Russians of Ukrainian descent – they have surnames ending in -enko.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Further proof that Russians are not being discriminated against by the Ukrainian government based on their ethnicity. One of them is head of Ukraine’s military.
     
    No dimwit. Further proof that Ukrainianism is a psychiatric disease, a schizophrenia. The symptoms are there for us all to notice long before the SMO.

    To be a "Ukrainian" is to betray your family, your religion, your culture and your history. Its an evil, an evil only supported by human excrement.

    Replies: @AP

  856. @A123
    @sudden death

    Bryansk Oblast shares a border with Belarus. So, I am not sure why your histrionic source prematurely jumped to "lying" as the explanation. It is much more likely that only partial facts have widely reached the public.

    There could be slightly garbled reporting about a co-operative effort with both Belarus and Russian security services. They are allies after all.

    Another possibility is, multiple groups of runners. Some tried to transit Belarus to reach the safety promised by Führer Zelensky. While others attempted a more direct route to their anti-Semitic commanders.

    Regardless of the minutiae. It looks bad for Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, and his European IslamoGloboHomo puppet masters.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @sudden death

    It is much more likely that only partial facts have widely reached the public.

    And yet you’re able to make this wildly questionable assertion:

    It looks bad for Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, and his European IslamoGloboHomo puppet masters

    Which only proves that when it comes to spinning wackjob conspiracy theories, you’re still the best.

    Don’t you think that it’s time for Herr Putler to launch even more missile attacks against apartment buildings in Ukraine where elderly civilians and their grand children live, to continue the valiant Russian defensive war? (did you even know that it’s been now been officially dubbed as a war and not a schmo?) You’re such a queer nutjob, kremlinstoogeA123.

    Maybe we should take a poll here and ask whether readers here believe that Zelensky hates Jews more than you hate Ukrainians?

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Mr Hack, how are things?

    You're a very funny guy. A homosexual pederast but admittedly, a very funny person.

    You appear like you have good medical knowledge - so can you inform me if there is anybody Zelensky has shaken hands with who has NOT got cancer or some other serious illness? Medically - what is it with his hand that causes this?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  857. @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    Good to know, however, I'm not sure that this will be enough to subside Professor Janissar's ire with the Ukies, whom he considers to be the most detestable human beings that walk the earth: "Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs." Glad that I don't live anywhere near Tennessee...I wonder if the school administrators where he works know that he has accumulated this huge reservoir of angst against both Ukrainians and Central Asians?

    Replies: @QCIC

    The terror attack at the concert will raise public support in Russia for both martial law and a more serious military campaign in Ukraine.

    Hack you are a creep for making doxxing hints.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    What "doxing hints"? I've read dozens of comments here, where the good professor alludes to his scholarly research pursuits and the education of his graduate school students. What rock have you been hiding under?

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

  858. @Wokechoke
    @Dmitry

    Hugenots were mainly textile manufacturers.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Crypto-Jewish?

  859. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am not much for joining anything, and definitely not "squads". It sounds vaguely working class, I am too posh for that...

    My personal view is that both C19 and vaccines were medical mini-events blown way out of proportion. But sticking vaccines repeatedly into oneself was quite stupid on its face. And the real idiots were people sticking that useless sh.t with unknown risks into little kids. That was outright evil.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    It sounds vaguely working class, I am too posh for that…

    This bears a family resemblance to Karlin’s view that only losers resist the corona experimental gene medicine.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Don't forget that Karlin wants gene therapy!

    , @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    There is no resemblance, completely different things. The losers were the enthusiasts who obediently stuck the vaccines into their bodies. I wouldn't touch the gene experimental hysteria and I couldn't understand how so many showed low IQ combined with conformism. Most people are really not that much, lemmings with shoes...

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  860. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The terror attack at the concert will raise public support in Russia for both martial law and a more serious military campaign in Ukraine.

    Hack you are a creep for making doxxing hints.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    What “doxing hints”? I’ve read dozens of comments here, where the good professor alludes to his scholarly research pursuits and the education of his graduate school students. What rock have you been hiding under?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I know the lay of the land with your redoubtable professor. I also recognize that you are one step away from being a Stasi-like informant against people you disagree with.

    You should be careful, though. The State Department or other government agency may tap you to be the patsy in some ridiculously low-brow scheme concocted to cover up their mistakes in Ukraine.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack

    , @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Your words could be interpreted that way. Good that you clarified that you would not do that. Speaking freely (even saying horrible or stupid things) is a good.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  861. @sudden death
    Friendly Erdogan also might wanted to sent specific congratulations and remembered that he's still waiting for Putin to visit Ankara?

    The detained militant admitted that he flew to Russia from Turkey, where he received documents.
     
    https://t.me/moxvictoria/38357

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Just a reminder that the Baltic fucktards allowed the terrorist murderer of Daria Dugina to escape via their borders with Russia.

    The escape ( in theory) could not indicate compliance……..but the non-attempt at arresting, questioning, even hint at extradition certainly is compliance. Although to be fair a role in the terrorist murder of an innocent young women is THE most successful Baltard military action of the last 500 years.

  862. @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    It is much more likely that only partial facts have widely reached the public.
     
    And yet you're able to make this wildly questionable assertion:

    It looks bad for Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, and his European IslamoGloboHomo puppet masters
     
    Which only proves that when it comes to spinning wackjob conspiracy theories, you're still the best.

    Don't you think that it's time for Herr Putler to launch even more missile attacks against apartment buildings in Ukraine where elderly civilians and their grand children live, to continue the valiant Russian defensive war? (did you even know that it's been now been officially dubbed as a war and not a schmo?) You're such a queer nutjob, kremlinstoogeA123.

    Maybe we should take a poll here and ask whether readers here believe that Zelensky hates Jews more than you hate Ukrainians?

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Mr Hack, how are things?

    You’re a very funny guy. A homosexual pederast but admittedly, a very funny person.

    You appear like you have good medical knowledge – so can you inform me if there is anybody Zelensky has shaken hands with who has NOT got cancer or some other serious illness? Medically – what is it with his hand that causes this?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234

    You failed in not answering the polling question. Don't waste your time on the small stuff, but concentrate on the stuff that really counts. BTW, it's good to see that your landowning master has given you a little bit of time off. Getting the dacha prepped for your summer garden must be hard work? How did your winter concert tour conclude?

  863. @AP
    Azerbaijan has figured it out: the Armenians did it.

    From the Azeri Times:

    “ The terrorist attack at a Moscow mall, owned by an Azerbaijani billionaire, specifically targeting the Muslim Magomayev Hall, named after the renowned Azerbaijani opera singer, has shifted attention towards a potential Armenian link to the incident”



    https://twitter.com/Sharon_Kuruvila/status/1771277074822561908?s=20

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @Dmitry

    ISIL already took responsibility.

    Unz is yet again another graveyard of conspiracy fails by posters that couldn’t wait 2-3 hours before speculating.

  864. @Wokechoke
    @Mr. XYZ

    If this wasn’t the hand of the CIA up the rear end of their ISIS puppet, we have a bridge to sell you. Islamic Terrorist organisations are the primary tool of the west (including Jews) in the post Soviet space.

    Given all of that the Muscovites will need to have a long hard think about demography. They have a natural frontier with Muslims that’s quite unlike that of most of Europe. The Wild Wild East.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Who hired the actual perps is not unambiguously established yet. All perps were hired via messengers (the way Ukie terrorist masters usually hire perps in the RF). The personalities of the bandits were selected to suggest Islamic connection. The direction they were going after the crime along with vehement denials by Ukie government are suggestive. As is the fact that fake statement of ISIS responsibility was generated and spread by Ukies.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    As is the fact that fake statement of ISIS responsibility was generated and spread by Ukies.

    That's your own conspiracy theory. ISIS took responsibility on their own channel that the attackers were Muslim.

    What military gain would there be in faking an ISIS attack against a rock concert? Why don't you explain that for us.

    Most of those concert goers probably hate Putin. Russians under 30 would vote him out.

    Maybe you forgot that Putin is violently backing an atheist doctor in Syria that is hated by the majority.

    Another double standard of the dwarf defenders:

    The US involves itself in the Middle East: Not your business, go home!

    Russia props up a dictatorship in Syria: Well that's different.

  865. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    A good schmear of whale blubber with some thinly sliced garlic on top of some good grainy dark bread? I'd at least try some...

    Replies: @songbird

    The Inuit used to get their vitamin C from eating whale skin. I’d rather eat an orange.

    Their vitamin D came from eating raw blubber. Would rather drink a glass of milk. But have heard that Inuit children eat it like it was candy.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Yeah, the current crop of citrus (oranges, grapefruit and tangelos) this year is quite good. Did you know that peppers, including the non spicy bell pepper variety, include more vitamin c than even citrus?

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    How to get the peel off an orange in four fast simple easy steps with a knife.

    1. cut off the navel end including 50-100 milligrams of the meaty innards.

    2. cut off the other end including 50-100 milligrams of the meaty innards.

    3. place orange flat on the non-navel end. Use the knife to slice half the orange top to bottom starting at the boundary between the two fattest visible sections with the point of the knife in the center.

    4. invert the deeply wounded orange and commence to peeling by hand. The thickest section of peel is very likely to be adjacent to the cut and the remaining peel will come off fast in one piece at least 90% of the time.

    If you eat a lot of oranges this saves a lot of time!

    https://www.producebluebook.com/2020/01/15/the-story-of-the-mother-of-the-navel-orange/

    , @LatW
    @songbird


    But have heard that Inuit children eat it like it was candy.
     
    I do hope that both the Inuit children and the hunters did eat the blubber, for their own survival. I remember reading of one Latvian guy who was sent to Siberia and in the first letter to his relatives, he wrote "Send any kind of fat substance or oils" - he didn't say, send bread or even just bacon, he said "Send fat" (as in - as much fat as you can get.. of course, it was a futile cry for help, poor naive fellow, since it was taken away anyway by those who intercepted the packages).

    But what you allude to is actually not just pure blubber, but fat mixed with berries and it's the Alaskan akutaq . The Alaskan ice cream. The ultimate paleo food.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_ice_cream

    Replies: @songbird

  866. @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Mr Hack, how are things?

    You're a very funny guy. A homosexual pederast but admittedly, a very funny person.

    You appear like you have good medical knowledge - so can you inform me if there is anybody Zelensky has shaken hands with who has NOT got cancer or some other serious illness? Medically - what is it with his hand that causes this?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    You failed in not answering the polling question. Don’t waste your time on the small stuff, but concentrate on the stuff that really counts. BTW, it’s good to see that your landowning master has given you a little bit of time off. Getting the dacha prepped for your summer garden must be hard work? How did your winter concert tour conclude?

  867. @AnonfromTN
    @Wokechoke

    Who hired the actual perps is not unambiguously established yet. All perps were hired via messengers (the way Ukie terrorist masters usually hire perps in the RF). The personalities of the bandits were selected to suggest Islamic connection. The direction they were going after the crime along with vehement denials by Ukie government are suggestive. As is the fact that fake statement of ISIS responsibility was generated and spread by Ukies.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    As is the fact that fake statement of ISIS responsibility was generated and spread by Ukies.

    That’s your own conspiracy theory. ISIS took responsibility on their own channel that the attackers were Muslim.

    What military gain would there be in faking an ISIS attack against a rock concert? Why don’t you explain that for us.

    Most of those concert goers probably hate Putin. Russians under 30 would vote him out.

    Maybe you forgot that Putin is violently backing an atheist doctor in Syria that is hated by the majority.

    Another double standard of the dwarf defenders:

    The US involves itself in the Middle East: Not your business, go home!

    Russia props up a dictatorship in Syria: Well that’s different.

  868. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    What "doxing hints"? I've read dozens of comments here, where the good professor alludes to his scholarly research pursuits and the education of his graduate school students. What rock have you been hiding under?

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    I know the lay of the land with your redoubtable professor. I also recognize that you are one step away from being a Stasi-like informant against people you disagree with.

    You should be careful, though. The State Department or other government agency may tap you to be the patsy in some ridiculously low-brow scheme concocted to cover up their mistakes in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC

    Snitching is a typical banderite thing. That’s how Soviet authorities rounded them all up after WWII: they were snitching on each other.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    I also recognize that you are one step away from being a Stasi-like informant against people you disagree with.
     
    Wow! What a meticulously phrased conspiracy theory. "one step away" and "Stasi-like informant" are par for the course - you must be trying to unseat kremlinstoogeA123 as the chief conspiracy theorist at this blogsite, LOL!

    You should be careful, though. The State Department or other government agency may tap you to be the patsy in some ridiculously low-brow scheme concocted to cover up their mistakes in Ukraine.
     
    I'm going to definitely heed your warning here, and be on the lookout for any "honeypot" traps that the State Department may have in store for me. I wouldn't worry too much though if I were you. I already feel that I waste too much of my time here, and the prospect of having to fill out reams of notes and paperwork for my handlers, ratting out on my fellow commenters here, is more time than I care to devote to this project. But since you seem to know something about these sorts of matters, I'd be interested in knowing what the spy agency might be able to compensate me for such dastardly deeds? :-)

    Replies: @QCIC

  869. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    The Inuit used to get their vitamin C from eating whale skin. I'd rather eat an orange.

    Their vitamin D came from eating raw blubber. Would rather drink a glass of milk. But have heard that Inuit children eat it like it was candy.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    Yeah, the current crop of citrus (oranges, grapefruit and tangelos) this year is quite good. Did you know that peppers, including the non spicy bell pepper variety, include more vitamin c than even citrus?

  870. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    It sounds vaguely working class, I am too posh for that…
     
    This bears a family resemblance to Karlin's view that only losers resist the corona experimental gene medicine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    Don’t forget that Karlin wants gene therapy!

  871. @AP
    @Gerard1234

    [Discussion about voting patterns]


    1999 – 92% in second round all for Kuchma in the galician
     
    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.

    2004 – 89, 87 & 88% for Yushchenko. 2nd (well, that’s another, CIA , issue) Round ….96,94 & 96%. That’s with Yanu being the best continuity candidate from Kuchma, who they voted 92% for the previous election…
     
    Small Soviet civil "engineer" brain can't cope with simple reality.

    When the choice was between Kuchma and a Communist (1999) 90+% of Galicians voted for Kuchma. When the choice was between a Donbas criminal oligarch supported by Communists and Yushchenko, 90+% of Galicians voted for Yushchenko.


    you shamelessly write this over a discrepancy of 0.08%
     
    Indeed. Yanukovich got 89% in Luhansk but Tymoshenko got 88.9% in Ivano-Frankivsk.

    I wrote that for one reason - because you stated:


    "highly ridiculous that Timoshenko could be more popular in any of the Galician regions then Yanukovich in Lugansk – but this ‘vote” happened!"
     
    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil "engineer" you don't know that 88.9% is less than 89%. Maybe you think because the former number has more digits it must be bigger.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.

    You were caught and then you cried "autism", as if one must be autistic to understand basic concepts like 88.9% is smaller than 89%.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.

    LMAO.
    1. WTF is Kravchuk in 1994?
    2. Every single Warsaw/ex USSR country had some pro-communist reversal during the 1990’s as every country had immediate post-Communist problem. States as Hungary and the Baltics had passed the worst of this by 1999. 404 certainly not. Russia certainly not. Plus they were NEVER ever anti-communist in Galicia ( in fact very communist) to these levels. Those numbers are simply abnormal, against human nature….particularly for the poorest, stupidest part of 404.

    When the choice was between Kuchma and a Communist (1999) 90+% of Galicians voted for Kuchma. When the choice was between a Donbas criminal oligarch supported by Communists and Yushchenko, 90+% of Galicians voted for Yushchenko.

    LMAO – this isn’t an ice cream flavour selection you retard. Your paragraph is too stupid to further discuss.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.

    Sure – none of the Soviet roads could bend, twist and dance like the American Tacoma narrow bridge, LOL. ( Across the world a textbook, classic, most famous example of civil enginering f**kup, outside of the Kiev metro post-1991)

    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil “engineer” you don’t know that 88.9% is less than 89%.

    Just your autistic cretinism, again. Having the same amount of support in Galicia , as Yanu in Donbass is totally ridiculous. Would be like saying Nazis “only” killed 5 890 000 Jews and not 6 million and using it as an example of Holocaust “deceit from the Jews”.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.

    LMAO.
    1. WTF is Kravchuk in 1994?
     
    No longer a Communist.

    You've forgotten the Russian language. What do you think "беспартийный" means?

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8B_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5_(1994)

    Every single Warsaw/ex USSR country had some pro-communist reversal during the 1990’s
     
    In normal countries and Galicia the Communists ceased to exist. Some younger ex-Commies rebranded, dropped the Communist ideology, and joined non-commies.

    So in Poland such a person Kwasniewski won the election.

    But in Ukraine (and Russia) the actual Communist Party persisted. Over 90% of Galicians rejected it in the presidential election. Just as over 90% of Poles, Balts etc. would have rejected a Communist Party had one dared to run in those countries' elections.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.

    Sure – none of the Soviet roads could bend, twist and dance like the American Tacoma narrow bridge
     
    The mass of terrible roads everywhere surpassed some specific bridge failure.

    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil “engineer” you don’t know that 88.9% is less than 89%

     

    Have you figured out that 88.9% is less than 89%?

    You made a big deal about Galicians supposedly voting more for Tymoshenko than Luhansk did for Yanukovich.

    Because you didn't know that 88.9% is smaller than 89%.

    Soviet civil engineering math proficiency at its finest.

    It doesn't matter by how much, you were just wrong.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  872. Russian nationalists have been complaining for the last year or so about the flood of Muslims from places like Tajikistan into Russia. They’ve compared it to Merkel in 2015, but apparently Russian media hides this from the public just like their counterparts in the West. Putin’s libtard immigration policies have already led to a massive rise in violent crime against ethnic Russians, now an all too predictable terrorist attack. Liberalism is mass suicide.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Matra

    Putin is trying to pin this on Ukraine in some way, as Bush blamed 9-11 on Iraq in order to get support for the invasion of Iraq. Let's see if Russians are stupid enough to go for it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Dmitry
    @Matra

    You mean liberals. Allowed criticism of open borders policy in Russia, was given to the liberals, which I'm surprised was an incorrect liberal policy*.

    Nationalism is illegal in Russia the last fifteen-twenty years, so they were in prison even just saying to close the border online with a nationalist perspective. To be nationalist in the Russian Federation since around 2000-2010 is like to be an "Objectivist" Ayn Rand fan in the Soviet Union.


    Russians, now an all too predictable terrorist attack.
     
    The trend of Islamist terrorist attacks in Russia has been falling in the last decade. Before the early 2010s, hundreds of Russian citizens were killed each year in the Islamist attacks. These were monthly in the dangerous regions.

    But, in the recent few years even though terrorist is less common than in the previous years, FSB is reporting that it is killing terrorist cells in Russian cities regularly. So, it could be difficult for citizens to guess how much the Islamist terrorism level was falling as it was possible the security service was more competent to prevent the attacks compared to the past.


    Liberalism is mass suicide.

     

    In Russia, liberalism was the given the role of the criticism of unselective immigration policy. Echo of Moscow, which was indirectly government owned liberal radio in Moscow was criticizing unselective immigration as one of their favorite topics to criticize the government.

    But, mass suicide in Russia this century, we saw later, was for young men trapped inside without an open border during mobilization. A positive reality about Russia now, people can walk across the border at night to Kazakhstan without any fences in the worst case situation, it's not a hermetically locked container where the organized person should be always trapped by their government.

    -


    *There are cities in Russia with both franchises of Islamic State and Taliban, in the same city. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-168/#comment-4956713 There is also a flow of opium drugs from Central Asia, which is main vector for the HIV epidemic.

    Liberals had been a role to criticize too open borders. But the open borders, save many thousands of Russian men and there is also generosity of the postsoviet states in their visa-requirements to Russian, so Central Asia and Transcaucasia are a safe-space for a lot of Russians these years.

    , @AP
    @Matra

    The war accelerates the trend.

    Westoids don't know this but Russia has a worker's shortage right now due to the war.
    Putin has signed "path to citizenship" laws and tried to make it appealing for central Asians to immigrate.

    He can't attack tajiks as he attacked Chechens in the 00s.



    https://twitter.com/pfizerlabrat/status/1771636981891580385?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Philip Owen

    , @John Johnson
    @Matra

    Oh gosh don't talk about that here.

    The Tucker following boomers will throw a tizzy over ruining their childish fantasy of Russia as a tradcon state.

    They really don't like videos like this one:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oykhHJshOE

    That is Moscow and not the middle east.

    The Fox zombots will get even more upset if you point out how the Orthodox Slavs are in decline while the Russian Muslims have an expanding population.

    Goes against the narrative of their dwarf hero somehow saving the West by killing Slavs.

    Dwarf lovers also believe that the Jews are the cause of the invasion and Putin is somehow sticking it to them by being a major supplier of oil and diamonds to Israel. Does that make any sense? Of course not but they'll revert to their #1 counter-argument:
    U MUST BE A JEW!!!!!!

    I found the ultimate video that pisses them off. It's Putin at the world holocaust forum with his pal Netenayhu:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHA66ahrEk8

    Look at those globalist pals sitting together.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack

  873. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    the head of the VSU is an ethnic Russian, born in Russia, parents and brother living in Moscow
     
    Further proof that Russians are not being discriminated against by the Ukrainian government based on their ethnicity. One of them is head of Ukraine's military.

    Kyrylo Yushchenko [head of French foreing legion]

    OR, as his parents would know him as………Kyrill Yushchenko
     

    Who knows?

    But it's interesting that he is of Ukrainian ethnic descent. Perhaps even some very distant cousin of Ukraine's former president.


    Neither of us know if he’s a Banderetard, white emigree or whatever type of heritage to explain how his family arrived in France
     
    That's why I merely wrote that he is Ukrainian descent, and not that he is some kind of diaspora Ukrainian. There are Russians of Ukrainian descent - they have surnames ending in -enko.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Further proof that Russians are not being discriminated against by the Ukrainian government based on their ethnicity. One of them is head of Ukraine’s military.

    No dimwit. Further proof that Ukrainianism is a psychiatric disease, a schizophrenia. The symptoms are there for us all to notice long before the SMO.

    To be a “Ukrainian” is to betray your family, your religion, your culture and your history. Its an evil, an evil only supported by human excrement.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    To be a “Ukrainian” is to betray your family, your religion, your culture and your history.
     
    Maybe for a Russian.

    But not for a Ukrainian. For a Ukrainian, becoming a Russian (that is, a Muscovite or Suzdalian) is to do these things.

    Of course there are people of mixed descent for whom such things can not be considered any sort of treason.

    And those who have moved, married and are thus loyal to their spouses, children, and neighbors can be excused for their betrayal of their own background nation.
  874. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I know the lay of the land with your redoubtable professor. I also recognize that you are one step away from being a Stasi-like informant against people you disagree with.

    You should be careful, though. The State Department or other government agency may tap you to be the patsy in some ridiculously low-brow scheme concocted to cover up their mistakes in Ukraine.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack

    Snitching is a typical banderite thing. That’s how Soviet authorities rounded them all up after WWII: they were snitching on each other.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN

    Banderites at this blogsite, in your basement laboratory, and even under your mattress at home, better be careful Professor. :-)

  875. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I know the lay of the land with your redoubtable professor. I also recognize that you are one step away from being a Stasi-like informant against people you disagree with.

    You should be careful, though. The State Department or other government agency may tap you to be the patsy in some ridiculously low-brow scheme concocted to cover up their mistakes in Ukraine.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack

    I also recognize that you are one step away from being a Stasi-like informant against people you disagree with.

    Wow! What a meticulously phrased conspiracy theory. “one step away” and “Stasi-like informant” are par for the course – you must be trying to unseat kremlinstoogeA123 as the chief conspiracy theorist at this blogsite, LOL!

    You should be careful, though. The State Department or other government agency may tap you to be the patsy in some ridiculously low-brow scheme concocted to cover up their mistakes in Ukraine.

    I’m going to definitely heed your warning here, and be on the lookout for any “honeypot” traps that the State Department may have in store for me. I wouldn’t worry too much though if I were you. I already feel that I waste too much of my time here, and the prospect of having to fill out reams of notes and paperwork for my handlers, ratting out on my fellow commenters here, is more time than I care to devote to this project. But since you seem to know something about these sorts of matters, I’d be interested in knowing what the spy agency might be able to compensate me for such dastardly deeds? 🙂

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Sorry, I don't have any helpful government career advice. Instead, I suggest a project for you. Seek out writings from Ukrainians who spoke out against the Western project from the beginning. The best and most eloquent of these writings can be compiled into a brief book which explains to future generations why this fiasco was wrong on so many levels and how to avoid similar bloodbaths in different places.

    My conspiracy status at Unz is way down the list. I'm merely an interested watcher of these things. I do think A123 is sort of a conspiracy in his own right. I wonder if he is a Shabbos goy like Trump (with a Jewish father), which gives both of them terrible conflicts?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

  876. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC

    Snitching is a typical banderite thing. That’s how Soviet authorities rounded them all up after WWII: they were snitching on each other.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Banderites at this blogsite, in your basement laboratory, and even under your mattress at home, better be careful Professor. 🙂

  877. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    The Inuit used to get their vitamin C from eating whale skin. I'd rather eat an orange.

    Their vitamin D came from eating raw blubber. Would rather drink a glass of milk. But have heard that Inuit children eat it like it was candy.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    How to get the peel off an orange in four fast simple easy steps with a knife.

    1. cut off the navel end including 50-100 milligrams of the meaty innards.

    2. cut off the other end including 50-100 milligrams of the meaty innards.

    3. place orange flat on the non-navel end. Use the knife to slice half the orange top to bottom starting at the boundary between the two fattest visible sections with the point of the knife in the center.

    4. invert the deeply wounded orange and commence to peeling by hand. The thickest section of peel is very likely to be adjacent to the cut and the remaining peel will come off fast in one piece at least 90% of the time.

    If you eat a lot of oranges this saves a lot of time!

    https://www.producebluebook.com/2020/01/15/the-story-of-the-mother-of-the-navel-orange/

    • Thanks: songbird
  878. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    What "doxing hints"? I've read dozens of comments here, where the good professor alludes to his scholarly research pursuits and the education of his graduate school students. What rock have you been hiding under?

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    Your words could be interpreted that way. Good that you clarified that you would not do that. Speaking freely (even saying horrible or stupid things) is a good.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I made no allusions to Professor J's real name or where he works (although anybody with half a brain and has been following this blogsite for a miniscule amount of time could figure this information out). Wondering how his employer (no matter who that might be) might perceive his character to be was meant to shame him. You shame people here all of the time. I don't waste my time wondering whether or not I might cause some discomfort to somebody who insists on making Ukrainophobic remarks like this:


    Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.”
     
    I take great offense at anybody who suggests that relatives of mine, who have to live with the injustices and horrors of this Russian inspired war, need to, on top of it all, "be shot on sight".

    Replies: @AP

  879. AP says:
    @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Further proof that Russians are not being discriminated against by the Ukrainian government based on their ethnicity. One of them is head of Ukraine’s military.
     
    No dimwit. Further proof that Ukrainianism is a psychiatric disease, a schizophrenia. The symptoms are there for us all to notice long before the SMO.

    To be a "Ukrainian" is to betray your family, your religion, your culture and your history. Its an evil, an evil only supported by human excrement.

    Replies: @AP

    To be a “Ukrainian” is to betray your family, your religion, your culture and your history.

    Maybe for a Russian.

    But not for a Ukrainian. For a Ukrainian, becoming a Russian (that is, a Muscovite or Suzdalian) is to do these things.

    Of course there are people of mixed descent for whom such things can not be considered any sort of treason.

    And those who have moved, married and are thus loyal to their spouses, children, and neighbors can be excused for their betrayal of their own background nation.

  880. AP says:
    @Gerard1234
    @AP


    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.
     
    LMAO.
    1. WTF is Kravchuk in 1994?
    2. Every single Warsaw/ex USSR country had some pro-communist reversal during the 1990's as every country had immediate post-Communist problem. States as Hungary and the Baltics had passed the worst of this by 1999. 404 certainly not. Russia certainly not. Plus they were NEVER ever anti-communist in Galicia ( in fact very communist) to these levels. Those numbers are simply abnormal, against human nature....particularly for the poorest, stupidest part of 404.

    When the choice was between Kuchma and a Communist (1999) 90+% of Galicians voted for Kuchma. When the choice was between a Donbas criminal oligarch supported by Communists and Yushchenko, 90+% of Galicians voted for Yushchenko.
     
    LMAO - this isn't an ice cream flavour selection you retard. Your paragraph is too stupid to further discuss.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.
     
    Sure - none of the Soviet roads could bend, twist and dance like the American Tacoma narrow bridge, LOL. ( Across the world a textbook, classic, most famous example of civil enginering f**kup, outside of the Kiev metro post-1991)

    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil “engineer” you don’t know that 88.9% is less than 89%.
     
    Just your autistic cretinism, again. Having the same amount of support in Galicia , as Yanu in Donbass is totally ridiculous. Would be like saying Nazis "only" killed 5 890 000 Jews and not 6 million and using it as an example of Holocaust "deceit from the Jews".

    Replies: @AP

    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.

    LMAO.
    1. WTF is Kravchuk in 1994?

    No longer a Communist.

    You’ve forgotten the Russian language. What do you think “беспартийный” means?

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8B_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5_(1994)

    Every single Warsaw/ex USSR country had some pro-communist reversal during the 1990’s

    In normal countries and Galicia the Communists ceased to exist. Some younger ex-Commies rebranded, dropped the Communist ideology, and joined non-commies.

    So in Poland such a person Kwasniewski won the election.

    But in Ukraine (and Russia) the actual Communist Party persisted. Over 90% of Galicians rejected it in the presidential election. Just as over 90% of Poles, Balts etc. would have rejected a Communist Party had one dared to run in those countries’ elections.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.

    Sure – none of the Soviet roads could bend, twist and dance like the American Tacoma narrow bridge

    The mass of terrible roads everywhere surpassed some specific bridge failure.

    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil “engineer” you don’t know that 88.9% is less than 89%

    Have you figured out that 88.9% is less than 89%?

    You made a big deal about Galicians supposedly voting more for Tymoshenko than Luhansk did for Yanukovich.

    Because you didn’t know that 88.9% is smaller than 89%.

    Soviet civil engineering math proficiency at its finest.

    It doesn’t matter by how much, you were just wrong.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    No longer a Communist.
     
    Worth noting that in 1994, Kravchuk was perceived by Galicians and Kievans as the less Sovok alternative to Kuchma in the second round of the 1994 election, even though Kravchuk was still a Sovok himself. It was about choosing the less Sovok of two Sovoks.
  881. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Your words could be interpreted that way. Good that you clarified that you would not do that. Speaking freely (even saying horrible or stupid things) is a good.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I made no allusions to Professor J’s real name or where he works (although anybody with half a brain and has been following this blogsite for a miniscule amount of time could figure this information out). Wondering how his employer (no matter who that might be) might perceive his character to be was meant to shame him. You shame people here all of the time. I don’t waste my time wondering whether or not I might cause some discomfort to somebody who insists on making Ukrainophobic remarks like this:

    Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.”

    I take great offense at anybody who suggests that relatives of mine, who have to live with the injustices and horrors of this Russian inspired war, need to, on top of it all, “be shot on sight”.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Wondering how his employer (no matter who that might be) might perceive his character to be was meant to shame him
     
    Understood, I didn't accuse you of making a threat but just pointed out that it could be interpreted that way. You've clarified.

    You shame people here all of the time
     
    Though my interlocutors are mostly incapable of shame.

    [AnoninTN]: Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.”

    I take great offense at anybody who suggests that relatives of mine, who have to live with the injustices and horrors of this Russian inspired war, need to, on top of it all, “be shot on sight”.

     

    I agree.

    He is not a bit better than the extreme World War II-era Banderists whom he hates. An example of enemies deserving each other.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

  882. @Matra
    Russian nationalists have been complaining for the last year or so about the flood of Muslims from places like Tajikistan into Russia. They've compared it to Merkel in 2015, but apparently Russian media hides this from the public just like their counterparts in the West. Putin's libtard immigration policies have already led to a massive rise in violent crime against ethnic Russians, now an all too predictable terrorist attack. Liberalism is mass suicide.

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry, @AP, @John Johnson

    Putin is trying to pin this on Ukraine in some way, as Bush blamed 9-11 on Iraq in order to get support for the invasion of Iraq. Let’s see if Russians are stupid enough to go for it.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    With 9/11, it didn't help that the dumbass Saddam Hussein praised the 9/11 attacks:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2011/9/5/9-11-the-world/

    https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2011813171514177734_8.jpeg?fit=770%2C515&quality=80


    Iraq, under then President Saddam Hussein, said that the US deserved the attacks, with an official government statement reading: "The American cowboys are reaping the fruit of their crimes against humanity." The official al-Iraq newspaper said the attacks were "a lesson for all tyrants, oppressors and criminals" [GALLO/GETTY]
     
  883. @AP
    @Matra

    Putin is trying to pin this on Ukraine in some way, as Bush blamed 9-11 on Iraq in order to get support for the invasion of Iraq. Let's see if Russians are stupid enough to go for it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    With 9/11, it didn’t help that the dumbass Saddam Hussein praised the 9/11 attacks:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2011/9/5/9-11-the-world/

    https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2011813171514177734_8.jpeg?fit=770%2C515&quality=80

    Iraq, under then President Saddam Hussein, said that the US deserved the attacks, with an official government statement reading: “The American cowboys are reaping the fruit of their crimes against humanity.” The official al-Iraq newspaper said the attacks were “a lesson for all tyrants, oppressors and criminals” [GALLO/GETTY]

  884. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    The opponent was a Communist. I am disappointed that 99% of Galicians did not vote against the Communist, but only 92%.

    LMAO.
    1. WTF is Kravchuk in 1994?
     
    No longer a Communist.

    You've forgotten the Russian language. What do you think "беспартийный" means?

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8B_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5_(1994)

    Every single Warsaw/ex USSR country had some pro-communist reversal during the 1990’s
     
    In normal countries and Galicia the Communists ceased to exist. Some younger ex-Commies rebranded, dropped the Communist ideology, and joined non-commies.

    So in Poland such a person Kwasniewski won the election.

    But in Ukraine (and Russia) the actual Communist Party persisted. Over 90% of Galicians rejected it in the presidential election. Just as over 90% of Poles, Balts etc. would have rejected a Communist Party had one dared to run in those countries' elections.

    That might explain the poor conditions of Soviet roads.

    Sure – none of the Soviet roads could bend, twist and dance like the American Tacoma narrow bridge
     
    The mass of terrible roads everywhere surpassed some specific bridge failure.

    And it was false, because as a Soviet-rained civil “engineer” you don’t know that 88.9% is less than 89%

     

    Have you figured out that 88.9% is less than 89%?

    You made a big deal about Galicians supposedly voting more for Tymoshenko than Luhansk did for Yanukovich.

    Because you didn't know that 88.9% is smaller than 89%.

    Soviet civil engineering math proficiency at its finest.

    It doesn't matter by how much, you were just wrong.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    No longer a Communist.

    Worth noting that in 1994, Kravchuk was perceived by Galicians and Kievans as the less Sovok alternative to Kuchma in the second round of the 1994 election, even though Kravchuk was still a Sovok himself. It was about choosing the less Sovok of two Sovoks.

  885. @AP
    @Dmitry


    Doesn’t the early, Pilgrim settlement select for people who join religious cults, which would be more religious motivated people? Puritan settlers were a community with a lot of religious and idealist mentality, famous for some “social activities” like in Salem.
     
    Yes, but they were also very much middle class tradesmen and shopkeepers. There was even a sort of stereotype - the Yankee trader. One could be both a Protestant religious fanatic and a prosperous, highly educated shopkeeper or merchant in those days.

    There was also an infamous witch trial in the Netherlands, albeit 80 years before Salem (1610):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bredevoort_witch_trials

    " More people, both women and men, where prosecuted, subjected to ordeal by water, tortured to confess and name accomplices, who were then also arrested. Ten men and women where executed by burning for witchcraft in Bredevoort in 1610. The Bredevoort witch trials was the perhaps last witch trial conducted by The Dutch Republic resulting in death sentences."

    People believe the famous Dutch religious tolerance has quite a lot of economic origins. The Dutch philosemitism
     
    The oldest American synagogue is in Rhode Island:

    https://tourosynagogue.org/history/

    The building is from the 1750s, but the congregation had been there since the 1650s. These Jews, like the ones in Amsterdam, were of Spanish and Portuguese origins.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    The oldest American synagogue is in Rhode Island:

    https://tourosynagogue.org/history/

    The building is from the 1750s, but the congregation had been there since the 1650s. These Jews, like the ones in Amsterdam, were of Spanish and Portuguese origins.

    Most US Jews were Sephardim until the 1800s, when Ashkenazi German and later Eastern European Jews moved to the US in huge numbers. For instance, Emma Lazarus, the author of the Statue of Liberty poem, was 7/8 Sephardi and only 1/8 (German Jewish) Ashkenazi, IIRC.

  886. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    It sounds vaguely working class, I am too posh for that…
     
    This bears a family resemblance to Karlin's view that only losers resist the corona experimental gene medicine.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    There is no resemblance, completely different things. The losers were the enthusiasts who obediently stuck the vaccines into their bodies. I wouldn’t touch the gene experimental hysteria and I couldn’t understand how so many showed low IQ combined with conformism. Most people are really not that much, lemmings with shoes…

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    I sometimes get the impression that Ron Unz also has a visceral feeling that complaining about the experimental gene medicine is an indicator of low socioeconomic status. He is adamant and enthusiastic that anti-vaxxers are dumb. It seems no argument is carefully well-crafted that he cannot dismiss with one sentence. Here is a choice paragraph from one of his covid reports--the Kennedy Fauci one.


    RFK Jr. clearly ranks as a leader of America’s anti-vaxxer movement, which may broadly encompass 20-30% of our population, and his massive bestseller seems likely to become its seminal text. Meanwhile, I would regard myself as very much on the other side, but after carefully considering his views, I think the disagreements may be more apparent than real. I lack the scientific expertise to evaluate 95% of his claims. Yet even if many or most of them were correct, I do not think I would need to retract any of the statements I made in my long August interview denouncing “anti-vaxx crackpots.”
     
    This is him being generous.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-vaxxing-anthony-fauci-and-aids/

    Did anybody ever mention the bit where RFK Jr. lacks the scientific expertise to evaluate 95% of his own claims? Ha ha don't answer that just kidding.

    Replies: @Matra, @Beckow

  887. AP says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I made no allusions to Professor J's real name or where he works (although anybody with half a brain and has been following this blogsite for a miniscule amount of time could figure this information out). Wondering how his employer (no matter who that might be) might perceive his character to be was meant to shame him. You shame people here all of the time. I don't waste my time wondering whether or not I might cause some discomfort to somebody who insists on making Ukrainophobic remarks like this:


    Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.”
     
    I take great offense at anybody who suggests that relatives of mine, who have to live with the injustices and horrors of this Russian inspired war, need to, on top of it all, "be shot on sight".

    Replies: @AP

    Wondering how his employer (no matter who that might be) might perceive his character to be was meant to shame him

    Understood, I didn’t accuse you of making a threat but just pointed out that it could be interpreted that way. You’ve clarified.

    You shame people here all of the time

    Though my interlocutors are mostly incapable of shame.

    [AnoninTN]: Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.”

    I take great offense at anybody who suggests that relatives of mine, who have to live with the injustices and horrors of this Russian inspired war, need to, on top of it all, “be shot on sight”.

    I agree.

    He is not a bit better than the extreme World War II-era Banderists whom he hates. An example of enemies deserving each other.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    He is not a bit better than the extreme World War II-era Banderists whom he hates. An example of enemies deserving each other.

     

    You know, I wonder just how much of a factor the brutality that Ukrainian nationalists experienced at the hands of the Second Polish Republic contributed towards their future radicalization. Yes, Poland was much milder towards them than the Soviet Union would later be, but still, Poland wasn't exactly pleasant towards them. From a 1931 book by an American observer:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b4081945&seq=119&q1=torture

    The next several pages describe in great and vivid detail about just how exactly Poland treated the Ukrainians. I do hope that what this book says about this topic is not Ukrainian propaganda, though, because the author of this book in general doesn't appear to like Poland very much, viewing it as a ravenous and rapacious imperialist power.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @QCIC
    @AP

    Hack's little hints look like he is talking himself into doing something bad. These hints have shown up over time and seem to form a pattern. I used doxxing as a general term since the person in question doesn't hide their identity, though there are other more anonymous commenters here. I wonder if Hack is the kind of jerk who would call the authorities on someone to get them shaken down simply to cause fear and inconvenience?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  888. @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Wondering how his employer (no matter who that might be) might perceive his character to be was meant to shame him
     
    Understood, I didn't accuse you of making a threat but just pointed out that it could be interpreted that way. You've clarified.

    You shame people here all of the time
     
    Though my interlocutors are mostly incapable of shame.

    [AnoninTN]: Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.”

    I take great offense at anybody who suggests that relatives of mine, who have to live with the injustices and horrors of this Russian inspired war, need to, on top of it all, “be shot on sight”.

     

    I agree.

    He is not a bit better than the extreme World War II-era Banderists whom he hates. An example of enemies deserving each other.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    He is not a bit better than the extreme World War II-era Banderists whom he hates. An example of enemies deserving each other.

    You know, I wonder just how much of a factor the brutality that Ukrainian nationalists experienced at the hands of the Second Polish Republic contributed towards their future radicalization. Yes, Poland was much milder towards them than the Soviet Union would later be, but still, Poland wasn’t exactly pleasant towards them. From a 1931 book by an American observer:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b4081945&seq=119&q1=torture

    The next several pages describe in great and vivid detail about just how exactly Poland treated the Ukrainians. I do hope that what this book says about this topic is not Ukrainian propaganda, though, because the author of this book in general doesn’t appear to like Poland very much, viewing it as a ravenous and rapacious imperialist power.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ

    I'm glad that it's you, and not I, that points out to AP that Polish/Ukrainian relations have mostly not been a honeymoon affair. He always takes me to task whenever I point out that many downtrodden Ukrainians did after all side with Khmelnitsky during that tumultuous conflict. In deference to AP's overall positive manner, and to my own Polish grandfather's legacy, I'm certainly pleased that Poland is today supporting Ukraine's lamentable situation.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  889. @songbird
    If the Chinese invented printing, how come only one copy of the Yongle Encyclopedia was ever made?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yongle_Encyclopedia

    Am not questioning the idea that they had printing, but it seems incomprehensible to me. No explanation I've heard makes any sense.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Maybe the Chinese simply didn’t view printing as that big of a deal, especially in regards to spreading information to the masses, whom they feared might get/develop subversive ideas if exposed to the printing press on a huge scale and the mass publication of new ideas that it would have allowed?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    My vague theory is that the subject matter fell under the prerogatives of the government press (which had monopolies on key texts, so they wouldn't vary) But it was too expensive for the government to want to make copies of it because it was so long.

    A better model would have been one in which wealthy merchants could buy volumes, either personally, or to place them in libraries, while having other also contribute.

    But the whole thing is really weird because the Yongle Emperor supposedly wrote a lengthy preface about the importance of preserving the work.

    Perhaps, woodblocks just weren't very practical for such an undertaking.

  890. @songbird
    First pig-kidney transplant in a living person:

    https://www.livescience.com/health/surgery/pig-kidney-transplanted-into-human-patient-for-1st-time-ever

    Would not want to be on dialysis, but guy is still taking immunosuppressants though, so I guess it still has a Frankenstein aspect. Will it become kosher?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    Since eating non-kosher food is apparently OK if the alternative is starving to death or even becoming (severely) malnourished, Yes, I do think that this would be kosher.

  891. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    The Inuit used to get their vitamin C from eating whale skin. I'd rather eat an orange.

    Their vitamin D came from eating raw blubber. Would rather drink a glass of milk. But have heard that Inuit children eat it like it was candy.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    But have heard that Inuit children eat it like it was candy.

    I do hope that both the Inuit children and the hunters did eat the blubber, for their own survival. I remember reading of one Latvian guy who was sent to Siberia and in the first letter to his relatives, he wrote “Send any kind of fat substance or oils” – he didn’t say, send bread or even just bacon, he said “Send fat” (as in – as much fat as you can get.. of course, it was a futile cry for help, poor naive fellow, since it was taken away anyway by those who intercepted the packages).

    But what you allude to is actually not just pure blubber, but fat mixed with berries and it’s the Alaskan akutaq . The Alaskan ice cream. The ultimate paleo food.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_ice_cream

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    But what you allude to is actually not just pure blubber,

     

    not sure, but it might have been pure. Maybe, fried. Little cubes. Recall seeing something like that in an old natgeo, but it was more than twenty years ago that I saw it.

    Pretty sure they have different fat metabolism, so maybe that could somehow influence taste too? (Or is it cultural?)

    @Emil
    Maybe, I am a sucker and they don't have the right vitamins, but I just get those newfangled oranges that are easy to peel.

    BTW, have found a good nutritional booklet for Mr. Hack:

    https://livehealthy.gov.nu.ca/sites/default/files/resource_attachments/EN_WEB_itf--nutrition-fact-sheet-series.pdf

    He will find that it gives good info about the nutritional value of various whales, and even ranks bell peppers alongside whale skin, for vitamin C. (So one could mix up the flavor depending on the day.)
  892. Which libtard said this after a terrorist attack by non-white Muslims in their capital?

    Terrorists, murderers, those inhumane individuals who have no nationality and cannot have one…No force will be able to sow the poisonous seeds of discord, panic or disunity in our multi-ethnic society.

    a) Theresa May
    b) Francois Hollande
    c) Angela Merkel
    d) Vladimir Putin

    Answer

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Matra

    Of course, it was him! He talks that way all the time. For years. It's still an empire, not a nation state. He has allowed the country to be swamped in the last couple of years. His concubine (or second wife, or whatever) is Muslim, his children have a politicized Muslim grandfather.

    Recently I saw a video from St Pete where during the Ramadan the whole street was full of kneeling Muslims, the whole damn street, it went on and on. If this is the case in St Pete, then imagine what is going on in Moscow. Betrayal. But the chumps deserve it since they've allowed him to stay in power for 25 years and have allowed the Kadyrovites dance on their heads. This is going to be but one of the fissures in the coming unraveling events...

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ, @S1

  893. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    There is no resemblance, completely different things. The losers were the enthusiasts who obediently stuck the vaccines into their bodies. I wouldn't touch the gene experimental hysteria and I couldn't understand how so many showed low IQ combined with conformism. Most people are really not that much, lemmings with shoes...

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I sometimes get the impression that Ron Unz also has a visceral feeling that complaining about the experimental gene medicine is an indicator of low socioeconomic status. He is adamant and enthusiastic that anti-vaxxers are dumb. It seems no argument is carefully well-crafted that he cannot dismiss with one sentence. Here is a choice paragraph from one of his covid reports–the Kennedy Fauci one.

    RFK Jr. clearly ranks as a leader of America’s anti-vaxxer movement, which may broadly encompass 20-30% of our population, and his massive bestseller seems likely to become its seminal text. Meanwhile, I would regard myself as very much on the other side, but after carefully considering his views, I think the disagreements may be more apparent than real. I lack the scientific expertise to evaluate 95% of his claims. Yet even if many or most of them were correct, I do not think I would need to retract any of the statements I made in my long August interview denouncing “anti-vaxx crackpots.”

    This is him being generous.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-vaxxing-anthony-fauci-and-aids/

    Did anybody ever mention the bit where RFK Jr. lacks the scientific expertise to evaluate 95% of his own claims? Ha ha don’t answer that just kidding.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Maybe now that several European studies have shown 'long Covid' is nonsense Unz will change his mind. lol

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My experience is that the most enthusiastic vaccinators were the mid-wits: not stupid, with three-digit IQs, but very conformist. The smarter people tend to be more skeptical and lower IQ's have more natural common sense.

    Among the top IQ people the vaccinators tend to be the people with 'pre-existing conditions' or who live around people like that. They have been germo-phobes and hypochondriacs their whole lives - they always vaccinate. Maybe Ron fits there.

    Replies: @QCIC

  894. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    I sometimes get the impression that Ron Unz also has a visceral feeling that complaining about the experimental gene medicine is an indicator of low socioeconomic status. He is adamant and enthusiastic that anti-vaxxers are dumb. It seems no argument is carefully well-crafted that he cannot dismiss with one sentence. Here is a choice paragraph from one of his covid reports--the Kennedy Fauci one.


    RFK Jr. clearly ranks as a leader of America’s anti-vaxxer movement, which may broadly encompass 20-30% of our population, and his massive bestseller seems likely to become its seminal text. Meanwhile, I would regard myself as very much on the other side, but after carefully considering his views, I think the disagreements may be more apparent than real. I lack the scientific expertise to evaluate 95% of his claims. Yet even if many or most of them were correct, I do not think I would need to retract any of the statements I made in my long August interview denouncing “anti-vaxx crackpots.”
     
    This is him being generous.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-vaxxing-anthony-fauci-and-aids/

    Did anybody ever mention the bit where RFK Jr. lacks the scientific expertise to evaluate 95% of his own claims? Ha ha don't answer that just kidding.

    Replies: @Matra, @Beckow

    Maybe now that several European studies have shown ‘long Covid’ is nonsense Unz will change his mind. lol

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Matra

    I thought 'long COVID' was the fancy name for patients with lung scarring after being on ventilators.

    Replies: @songbird

  895. @S1
    @LatW


    What do you mean by “blacklisted”?
     
    I mean that you almost certainly will not have heard of the book (ie The New Rome) on any radio, newspaper, or, television, other than some obscure Marxist orientated academic journals, denouncing it as 'imperialist''. I think to an extent that's deliberate.



    ‘Thus intently is this [American] republic at work upon the fusion of all nations, not of the continent alone, but of all continents, into one people.’
     
    Yes, that part is visible, but it’s only a group of ideologues who intended it, not most Americans.
     
    One could say that since the founding of the United States there have been two America's at war with each other. The one America which wanted to be a traditional ethnically based country, and which people had been led to believe they had, particularly in time of war, and wished to simply be left alone, and another America, which was merely an 'idea', and wanted to create a global super-state, or 'empire', to be dominated by the US.

    While most people wanted the former, the latter minority 'ideologues' as you call them, often enough members of secret societies and their hangers on, have held the bulk of politicpower since the country was founded.

    It’s similar to the crazy idea of world Communism. Could be the same idea in a different dressing.
     
    Yes, Capitalism and Communism, rather than being diametrically opposed, are instead closely paralleling complimentary sister ideologies,. [But that shouldn't be too surprising, as heavy hitter Capitalist US founders Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and probably Ben Franklin, were quite involved at the ground floor of the founding of Communism in their support of (and involvement in) the proto-Communist French Revolution of 1789.]

    Btw, the current US administration seems like it has some serious Communist leanings (old tradition even in the US).
     
    You are very right. It does. [I'll have to stop here due to time constraints. I've been extremely busy of late. I haven't done your lengthy thoughtful response justice, I’m afraid.]

    Replies: @LatW

    The one America which wanted to be a traditional ethnically based country, and which people had been led to believe they had

    Not taking away from your point of “two Americas”, I just feel like nitpicking a little – when you say “ethnically”, I’m not sure it’s fully accurate here. I know which ethnicity you have in mind, of course, however, let’s not forget that one third of the colonists were German and German was widely spoken for a long time in America. The first Bible in America was published in German. Later the Anglos pushed out the German language.

    And, of course, there were French and Spanish present as well in a significant way, very early on. Normally, I wouldn’t nitpick like this (as I am deeply Anglophile), but it is 2024 when anything goes. 🙂

    Yes, Capitalism and Communism, rather than being diametrically opposed, are instead closely paralleling complimentary sister ideologies.

    I wouldn’t go as far as to state that, but both of these ideologies are a way to organize large masses and both are somewhat aggressive (Communism more so than Capitalism, but maybe each in their own way), and people often strive for overarching, uniting ideologies. It also depends on what one means by “capitalism” – the classical Max Weber version or the more complex and controversial type of today’s global capitalism (which in some cases can no longer even be defined as pure capitalism).

    Btw, speaking of English and Northern Germanic languages – while they are very similar indeed, the one thing that really sets English apart is the latinization or the Romanization (the influence of French). The Latin words so common in English are simply not as prevalent in languages such as Norwegian (and even Dutch). For example, in Norwegian, all of these Latin words used in English actually have a local equivalent – conversation (Latin root) – samtale (Germanic root, literally, meaning “speaking together”, pure English version would be something like “same telling” 0r “talking together”), development (Latin) – utvikling (Germanic), question (Latin origin) – spørsmål (Germanic). Etc, etc, hundreds and hundreds of these.

    [MORE]

    From Library of Congress:

    “By the middle of the 18th century, German immigrants occupied a central place in American life. Germans accounted for one-third of the population of the American colonies, and were second in number only to the English. The German language was widely spoken in nearly every colonial city and was circulated in locally published periodicals and books. When the members of the Continental Congress first met in Philadelphia, they walked down streets lined with German businesses sporting German signs, and their deliberations were reported in German broadsides and debated in German coffeehouses. When the Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4, 1776, a German newspaper was the first to break the news, and German copies of the Declaration were on the streets the next day.

    The strength and vitality of German publishing was one of the cornerstones of German culture in America, and one of the reasons for its tremendous success. Since Johannes Gutenberg invented movable type in 1440, Germans had been at the forefront of the printing industry in Europe, and they carried this tradition with them to the American colonies. The first Bible in America was published in German by Christopher Saur, a German printer in Philadelphia.

    By the time of the American Revolution, most of the cities and large towns in the colonies supported at least one German newspaper, and some had two. German newspapers, broadsides, almanacs, and books became the glue that held the German American community together, and helped maintain a sense of social cohesion among immigrants that were scattered widely up and down the eastern seaboard, in bustling cities and in remote farm settlements. This cultural glue held its force for hundreds of years, and reinforced German Americans’ identity well into the 20th century.

    The military traditions of German-speaking immigrants also made a significant contribution to revolutionary America. At the outbreak of the Revolutionary War, Germans from all over the American colonies formed volunteer militia companies. General Friedrich Wilhelm Von Steuben, who had served as a general staff officer with the Prussian army, volunteered to serve General George Washington without pay and was put to work organizing and drilling the sometimes ragged volunteers of the Continental Army. Von Steuben’s Prussian discipline and tactics were to a large degree responsible for the Revolutionists’ later military victories, and his manual of regulations formed the basis of the manual of drill and organization used by the United States Army today.”

    Americans, do not forget where you came from!

  896. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Maybe the Chinese simply didn't view printing as that big of a deal, especially in regards to spreading information to the masses, whom they feared might get/develop subversive ideas if exposed to the printing press on a huge scale and the mass publication of new ideas that it would have allowed?

    Replies: @songbird

    My vague theory is that the subject matter fell under the prerogatives of the government press (which had monopolies on key texts, so they wouldn’t vary) But it was too expensive for the government to want to make copies of it because it was so long.

    A better model would have been one in which wealthy merchants could buy volumes, either personally, or to place them in libraries, while having other also contribute.

    But the whole thing is really weird because the Yongle Emperor supposedly wrote a lengthy preface about the importance of preserving the work.

    Perhaps, woodblocks just weren’t very practical for such an undertaking.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
  897. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    I also recognize that you are one step away from being a Stasi-like informant against people you disagree with.
     
    Wow! What a meticulously phrased conspiracy theory. "one step away" and "Stasi-like informant" are par for the course - you must be trying to unseat kremlinstoogeA123 as the chief conspiracy theorist at this blogsite, LOL!

    You should be careful, though. The State Department or other government agency may tap you to be the patsy in some ridiculously low-brow scheme concocted to cover up their mistakes in Ukraine.
     
    I'm going to definitely heed your warning here, and be on the lookout for any "honeypot" traps that the State Department may have in store for me. I wouldn't worry too much though if I were you. I already feel that I waste too much of my time here, and the prospect of having to fill out reams of notes and paperwork for my handlers, ratting out on my fellow commenters here, is more time than I care to devote to this project. But since you seem to know something about these sorts of matters, I'd be interested in knowing what the spy agency might be able to compensate me for such dastardly deeds? :-)

    Replies: @QCIC

    Sorry, I don’t have any helpful government career advice. Instead, I suggest a project for you. Seek out writings from Ukrainians who spoke out against the Western project from the beginning. The best and most eloquent of these writings can be compiled into a brief book which explains to future generations why this fiasco was wrong on so many levels and how to avoid similar bloodbaths in different places.

    My conspiracy status at Unz is way down the list. I’m merely an interested watcher of these things. I do think A123 is sort of a conspiracy in his own right. I wonder if he is a Shabbos goy like Trump (with a Jewish father), which gives both of them terrible conflicts?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Why would you want me to waste my time seeking out something that it appears you have access to right at the tips of your fingertips? Aw, c'mon QCIC, don't be that stingy and hoard your inventory of goods, do share just one or two of these precious gems...

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @A123
    @QCIC

    ROTFL -- You are WAY more conspiratorial than I am.

    I tell simple truths about the way America actually is. For example, SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim is real in the U.S., and amazingly unsubtle. What names spring to mind when you think of Islamic politicians in America?
        • Ilhan Omar
        • Rashida Tlaib
        • Keith Ellison

    Can you name any state or federal elected Muslim official who is not a hate raging SJW🏳️‍🌈Leftoid? I did not think so. Allowing near powerless groups to pressure school boards is maskirovka. Deception to provide cover for the woke deviant, Islamic Globalist cause.

    This leading Democrat is an Islamophile nutter. He is so extreme he wants to fund HAMAS/UNRWA, despite the proven connection to October 7 atrocities: (1)


    On Saturday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Weekend,” House Foreign Affairs Committee Ranking Member Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY) said he is “very upset” about the government funding bill stripping funding for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) over accusations that multiple UNRWA employees participated in the October 7
     
    The DNC is now the party of Muhammad. Look at what IslamoGloboHomo forced their Dhimmi slave, Chuck Schumer to say publicly.

    Why do you invent conspiracies to undermine Judeo-Christian values? Have you considered being a little less SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim crazy?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/03/23/dem-rep-meeks-ive-talked-about-getting-money-to-unrwa-by-proxy-very-upset-congress-defunded-it/

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

  898. @Matra
    Which libtard said this after a terrorist attack by non-white Muslims in their capital?

    Terrorists, murderers, those inhumane individuals who have no nationality and cannot have one...No force will be able to sow the poisonous seeds of discord, panic or disunity in our multi-ethnic society.

    a) Theresa May
    b) Francois Hollande
    c) Angela Merkel
    d) Vladimir Putin

    Answer

    Replies: @LatW

    Of course, it was him! He talks that way all the time. For years. It’s still an empire, not a nation state. He has allowed the country to be swamped in the last couple of years. His concubine (or second wife, or whatever) is Muslim, his children have a politicized Muslim grandfather.

    Recently I saw a video from St Pete where during the Ramadan the whole street was full of kneeling Muslims, the whole damn street, it went on and on. If this is the case in St Pete, then imagine what is going on in Moscow. Betrayal. But the chumps deserve it since they’ve allowed him to stay in power for 25 years and have allowed the Kadyrovites dance on their heads. This is going to be but one of the fissures in the coming unraveling events…

    • Replies: @LatW
    @LatW

    Wait, that means his children are Muslim, too. Since they are mostly raised by the mother and her family. I heard those are boys. So Muslim boys. They may be groomed to create a dynasty of Russia's rulers. If he doesn't put one of his daughters in his place. But there may not be enough time to pull this off... we'll see.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    It's quite interesting, isn't it? Putin is quite eager to sit on two stools simultaneously: The Russian nationalist stool and the Eurasianist stool.

    Of course, if Russian nationalists were smart, then they would try to build a more inclusive tent, similar to what MAGA is trying to do right now by rallying anti-Woke Hispanics and blacks, especially prole men from those groups, to their cause. Historically, some Russian nationalists were at least of Muslim descent:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lvovich_Kazembek

    Also:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Yusupov

    (The latter was at least a Russian nationalist in terms of his actions. The former was a true hardcore Russian nationalist, however.)

    , @S1
    @LatW


    Recently I saw a video from St Pete where during the Ramadan the whole street was full of kneeling Muslims, the whole damn street, it went on and on. If this is the case in St Pete, then imagine what is going on in Moscow. Betrayal.
     
    With some exceptions, it's that way in almost all the European spaces, and I do think it's quite deliberate and even orchestrated to some degree.

    In the likely coming WWIII, these unasked for Moslems in Europe, with Euro and Moslem being in each other's faces, will add fuel to the fire. It will cause more breakdown of identity across the board, particularly for Euros, but for Islamics too.

    'Creative destruction' I think they call it.
  899. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    He is not a bit better than the extreme World War II-era Banderists whom he hates. An example of enemies deserving each other.

     

    You know, I wonder just how much of a factor the brutality that Ukrainian nationalists experienced at the hands of the Second Polish Republic contributed towards their future radicalization. Yes, Poland was much milder towards them than the Soviet Union would later be, but still, Poland wasn't exactly pleasant towards them. From a 1931 book by an American observer:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b4081945&seq=119&q1=torture

    The next several pages describe in great and vivid detail about just how exactly Poland treated the Ukrainians. I do hope that what this book says about this topic is not Ukrainian propaganda, though, because the author of this book in general doesn't appear to like Poland very much, viewing it as a ravenous and rapacious imperialist power.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I’m glad that it’s you, and not I, that points out to AP that Polish/Ukrainian relations have mostly not been a honeymoon affair. He always takes me to task whenever I point out that many downtrodden Ukrainians did after all side with Khmelnitsky during that tumultuous conflict. In deference to AP’s overall positive manner, and to my own Polish grandfather’s legacy, I’m certainly pleased that Poland is today supporting Ukraine’s lamentable situation.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. Hack

    The problem with Poland in the interwar era is that it refused to become a genuine federation. That, and it didn't liberate as many Ukrainians and Belarusians from Soviet rule as it could have. Though arguably having Poland ally with the Russian Whites during the RCW would have been the best of all, even at the expense of a Curzon Line eastern border for Poland.

    Poland likely was a gentler master for Ukrainians than both Tsarist Russia and the USSR were. At least, Ukrainians' population ratio relative to the Poles was better than it was relative to the Russians. Thus giving more room for potential Ukrainian influence on various decisions, at least in a genuine democratic state, which admittedly both the PLC and often the Second Polish Republic were not (but neither were either the Russian Empire or the Soviet Union).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  900. @AP
    @Mr. Hack


    Wondering how his employer (no matter who that might be) might perceive his character to be was meant to shame him
     
    Understood, I didn't accuse you of making a threat but just pointed out that it could be interpreted that way. You've clarified.

    You shame people here all of the time
     
    Though my interlocutors are mostly incapable of shame.

    [AnoninTN]: Both kinds have no scruples, nothing human about them, should be shot on sight, like mad dogs.”

    I take great offense at anybody who suggests that relatives of mine, who have to live with the injustices and horrors of this Russian inspired war, need to, on top of it all, “be shot on sight”.

     

    I agree.

    He is not a bit better than the extreme World War II-era Banderists whom he hates. An example of enemies deserving each other.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    Hack’s little hints look like he is talking himself into doing something bad. These hints have shown up over time and seem to form a pattern. I used doxxing as a general term since the person in question doesn’t hide their identity, though there are other more anonymous commenters here. I wonder if Hack is the kind of jerk who would call the authorities on someone to get them shaken down simply to cause fear and inconvenience?

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    I wonder if Hack is the kind of jerk who would call the authorities on someone to get them shaken down simply to cause fear and inconvenience?
     
    If you really feel this way about me, wouldn't it be wise to keep your thoughts to yourself? Aren't you afraid that you may stir up my angst towards you and encourage me to continue my super spy assignment and dox you ASAP? In reality, I can't tell you how much I'm really enjoy this new thesis of yours, "Mr. Hack, the incredible spy man" who knows how many other participants at this blog I've recruited that are working for me? Please, keep 'em coming, I haven' had so much fun here in a long while!

    https://lwlies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/the-third-man-orson-welles.jpg
    Mr. Hack, the Fourth Man?.....

  901. @Matra
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Maybe now that several European studies have shown 'long Covid' is nonsense Unz will change his mind. lol

    Replies: @QCIC

    I thought ‘long COVID’ was the fancy name for patients with lung scarring after being on ventilators.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    Never really paid too much attention to this YouTube channel, but I am puzzled as to what is going on with this woman:

    https://youtu.be/vydgkCCXbTA?si=RLx5mhdlblE1HeG3

    https://youtu.be/xbcjf-hrOAs?si=N3Vxiyaynl0msXvu

    Some kind of nervous breakdown? Or incorrectly diagnosed disease?

    I suspect the latter, but it is strange that the label "longcovid" seemed accepted at one point.

    Replies: @QCIC

  902. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Sorry, I don't have any helpful government career advice. Instead, I suggest a project for you. Seek out writings from Ukrainians who spoke out against the Western project from the beginning. The best and most eloquent of these writings can be compiled into a brief book which explains to future generations why this fiasco was wrong on so many levels and how to avoid similar bloodbaths in different places.

    My conspiracy status at Unz is way down the list. I'm merely an interested watcher of these things. I do think A123 is sort of a conspiracy in his own right. I wonder if he is a Shabbos goy like Trump (with a Jewish father), which gives both of them terrible conflicts?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    Why would you want me to waste my time seeking out something that it appears you have access to right at the tips of your fingertips? Aw, c’mon QCIC, don’t be that stingy and hoard your inventory of goods, do share just one or two of these precious gems…

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    я не розмовляю українською

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. Hack

  903. @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ

    I'm glad that it's you, and not I, that points out to AP that Polish/Ukrainian relations have mostly not been a honeymoon affair. He always takes me to task whenever I point out that many downtrodden Ukrainians did after all side with Khmelnitsky during that tumultuous conflict. In deference to AP's overall positive manner, and to my own Polish grandfather's legacy, I'm certainly pleased that Poland is today supporting Ukraine's lamentable situation.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    The problem with Poland in the interwar era is that it refused to become a genuine federation. That, and it didn’t liberate as many Ukrainians and Belarusians from Soviet rule as it could have. Though arguably having Poland ally with the Russian Whites during the RCW would have been the best of all, even at the expense of a Curzon Line eastern border for Poland.

    Poland likely was a gentler master for Ukrainians than both Tsarist Russia and the USSR were. At least, Ukrainians’ population ratio relative to the Poles was better than it was relative to the Russians. Thus giving more room for potential Ukrainian influence on various decisions, at least in a genuine democratic state, which admittedly both the PLC and often the Second Polish Republic were not (but neither were either the Russian Empire or the Soviet Union).

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ

    The great Ukrainian national bard, Taras Shevchenko, had this to say:


    У своїй хаті своя правда, і сила, і воля»
     
    which translated means:

    In ones own house one may find ones own truth, strength and freedom.
     
  904. @LatW
    @songbird


    But have heard that Inuit children eat it like it was candy.
     
    I do hope that both the Inuit children and the hunters did eat the blubber, for their own survival. I remember reading of one Latvian guy who was sent to Siberia and in the first letter to his relatives, he wrote "Send any kind of fat substance or oils" - he didn't say, send bread or even just bacon, he said "Send fat" (as in - as much fat as you can get.. of course, it was a futile cry for help, poor naive fellow, since it was taken away anyway by those who intercepted the packages).

    But what you allude to is actually not just pure blubber, but fat mixed with berries and it's the Alaskan akutaq . The Alaskan ice cream. The ultimate paleo food.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_ice_cream

    Replies: @songbird

    But what you allude to is actually not just pure blubber,

    not sure, but it might have been pure. Maybe, fried. Little cubes. Recall seeing something like that in an old natgeo, but it was more than twenty years ago that I saw it.

    Pretty sure they have different fat metabolism, so maybe that could somehow influence taste too? (Or is it cultural?)

    @Emil
    Maybe, I am a sucker and they don’t have the right vitamins, but I just get those newfangled oranges that are easy to peel.

    BTW, have found a good nutritional booklet for Mr. Hack:

    https://livehealthy.gov.nu.ca/sites/default/files/resource_attachments/EN_WEB_itf--nutrition-fact-sheet-series.pdf

    He will find that it gives good info about the nutritional value of various whales, and even ranks bell peppers alongside whale skin, for vitamin C. (So one could mix up the flavor depending on the day.)

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
  905. @QCIC
    @AP

    Hack's little hints look like he is talking himself into doing something bad. These hints have shown up over time and seem to form a pattern. I used doxxing as a general term since the person in question doesn't hide their identity, though there are other more anonymous commenters here. I wonder if Hack is the kind of jerk who would call the authorities on someone to get them shaken down simply to cause fear and inconvenience?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I wonder if Hack is the kind of jerk who would call the authorities on someone to get them shaken down simply to cause fear and inconvenience?

    If you really feel this way about me, wouldn’t it be wise to keep your thoughts to yourself? Aren’t you afraid that you may stir up my angst towards you and encourage me to continue my super spy assignment and dox you ASAP? In reality, I can’t tell you how much I’m really enjoy this new thesis of yours, “Mr. Hack, the incredible spy man” who knows how many other participants at this blog I’ve recruited that are working for me? Please, keep ’em coming, I haven’ had so much fun here in a long while!

    Mr. Hack, the Fourth Man?…..

    • LOL: QCIC
  906. @LatW
    @Matra

    Of course, it was him! He talks that way all the time. For years. It's still an empire, not a nation state. He has allowed the country to be swamped in the last couple of years. His concubine (or second wife, or whatever) is Muslim, his children have a politicized Muslim grandfather.

    Recently I saw a video from St Pete where during the Ramadan the whole street was full of kneeling Muslims, the whole damn street, it went on and on. If this is the case in St Pete, then imagine what is going on in Moscow. Betrayal. But the chumps deserve it since they've allowed him to stay in power for 25 years and have allowed the Kadyrovites dance on their heads. This is going to be but one of the fissures in the coming unraveling events...

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ, @S1

    Wait, that means his children are Muslim, too. Since they are mostly raised by the mother and her family. I heard those are boys. So Muslim boys. They may be groomed to create a dynasty of Russia’s rulers. If he doesn’t put one of his daughters in his place. But there may not be enough time to pull this off… we’ll see.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    Had Russia had a normal (Communist-free) 20th century, it might have had huge Muslim immigration flows during the 20th and 21st centuries. Seriously. Just like more and more Hispanics are constantly complimenting the US, more and more Muslims would have similarly constantly complimented Russia, just so long as their bad apples would have been put under control. Imagine a liberal Russia in the style of Ireland with 500+ million people that's also a multicultural melange with Eastern Slavs, Central Asian Muslims, South Asian Muslims, East Asians, Caucasians, Jews, Balts/Finns, et cetera. What a delightful mixture! A beautiful tribute and synthesis to Russia's Eurasian history and culture!

    Replies: @LatW

  907. @QCIC
    @Matra

    I thought 'long COVID' was the fancy name for patients with lung scarring after being on ventilators.

    Replies: @songbird

    Never really paid too much attention to this YouTube channel, but I am puzzled as to what is going on with this woman:

    [MORE]

    Some kind of nervous breakdown? Or incorrectly diagnosed disease?

    I suspect the latter, but it is strange that the label “longcovid” seemed accepted at one point.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    I heard about this woman a couple of years ago but did not investigate.

    COVID symptoms can overlap with many other conditions. If the commonly used tests do not work properly then a differential diagnosis may be difficult. If she also had an mRNA vaccine then all bets are off. Those shots seem to be clearly implicated as causing a range of serious problems in many people, while apparently being harmless for many others. Because of the role of the spike protein the vaccine reaction may look like COVID symptoms, creating a very confusing set of symptoms.

    I think there is often a small subset of people who have long-term complications from many relatively benign diseases as well as complications from well tolerated conventional vaccines. This is one reason why conventional medicine is a crap shoot, there is a statistical aspect. Youtube allows many of these idiosyncratic cases to become widely publicized. This is good in that publicity may help the patients reach the rare expert who actually recognizes their problem. On the other hand, it may create a false impression that these rare issues are more common than in the past.

    Replies: @songbird

  908. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Why would you want me to waste my time seeking out something that it appears you have access to right at the tips of your fingertips? Aw, c'mon QCIC, don't be that stingy and hoard your inventory of goods, do share just one or two of these precious gems...

    Replies: @QCIC

    я не розмовляю українською

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    You're saying that you don't wash Ukrainian?

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Well, why are you then doling out advice if you don't understand the language, the topic at hand? Par for the course for you and your abilities to hold an intelligent conversation. :-(

    Replies: @QCIC

  909. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    I sometimes get the impression that Ron Unz also has a visceral feeling that complaining about the experimental gene medicine is an indicator of low socioeconomic status. He is adamant and enthusiastic that anti-vaxxers are dumb. It seems no argument is carefully well-crafted that he cannot dismiss with one sentence. Here is a choice paragraph from one of his covid reports--the Kennedy Fauci one.


    RFK Jr. clearly ranks as a leader of America’s anti-vaxxer movement, which may broadly encompass 20-30% of our population, and his massive bestseller seems likely to become its seminal text. Meanwhile, I would regard myself as very much on the other side, but after carefully considering his views, I think the disagreements may be more apparent than real. I lack the scientific expertise to evaluate 95% of his claims. Yet even if many or most of them were correct, I do not think I would need to retract any of the statements I made in my long August interview denouncing “anti-vaxx crackpots.”
     
    This is him being generous.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-vaxxing-anthony-fauci-and-aids/

    Did anybody ever mention the bit where RFK Jr. lacks the scientific expertise to evaluate 95% of his own claims? Ha ha don't answer that just kidding.

    Replies: @Matra, @Beckow

    My experience is that the most enthusiastic vaccinators were the mid-wits: not stupid, with three-digit IQs, but very conformist. The smarter people tend to be more skeptical and lower IQ’s have more natural common sense.

    Among the top IQ people the vaccinators tend to be the people with ‘pre-existing conditions‘ or who live around people like that. They have been germo-phobes and hypochondriacs their whole lives – they always vaccinate. Maybe Ron fits there.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Beckow

    The result of modern propaganda and public education is that most people in the USA are highly conformist. The number of smart people who question the safety and utility of the mRNA shots is shockingly low. Many smart people in the USA have advanced degrees and this factor probably correlates better with being more conformist than it does with being more competent. I suspect midwits with advanced degrees are extremely conformist and probably often see themselves as gatekeepers of some sort.

    I agree that the idea of a "pre-existing condition" or "at risk status" of a loved one led many people with some vaccine hesitancy to accept the unproven shots as a necessary evil.

    Replies: @Beckow

  910. @songbird
    @QCIC

    Never really paid too much attention to this YouTube channel, but I am puzzled as to what is going on with this woman:

    https://youtu.be/vydgkCCXbTA?si=RLx5mhdlblE1HeG3

    https://youtu.be/xbcjf-hrOAs?si=N3Vxiyaynl0msXvu

    Some kind of nervous breakdown? Or incorrectly diagnosed disease?

    I suspect the latter, but it is strange that the label "longcovid" seemed accepted at one point.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I heard about this woman a couple of years ago but did not investigate.

    COVID symptoms can overlap with many other conditions. If the commonly used tests do not work properly then a differential diagnosis may be difficult. If she also had an mRNA vaccine then all bets are off. Those shots seem to be clearly implicated as causing a range of serious problems in many people, while apparently being harmless for many others. Because of the role of the spike protein the vaccine reaction may look like COVID symptoms, creating a very confusing set of symptoms.

    I think there is often a small subset of people who have long-term complications from many relatively benign diseases as well as complications from well tolerated conventional vaccines. This is one reason why conventional medicine is a crap shoot, there is a statistical aspect. Youtube allows many of these idiosyncratic cases to become widely publicized. This is good in that publicity may help the patients reach the rare expert who actually recognizes their problem. On the other hand, it may create a false impression that these rare issues are more common than in the past.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    IMO, accurate, generalized diagnosis isn't incentivized enough.

    A lot of diagnosis is personalized and specific - going to the right doctor, which is a time-consuming and expensive process. One goes to the GP and then to specialist and then maybe a second and third specialist. Along the way, one might encounter waste-basket diagnoses - the doctor making something up, like saying it is a virus or longcovid, because he doesn't know what it is. and then the patient might give up.

    I think there should be a machine option, to test against this pathway. Not only a machine. But maybe some human network harnessing the internet. Incentives for people to share information. Share their story, and be interrogated about it.

    And better technology. I know Elizabeth Holmes was a scammer, but some principles could probably be pursued with the right incentives. Like scent or some multiple antibody test.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  911. @LatW
    @Matra

    Of course, it was him! He talks that way all the time. For years. It's still an empire, not a nation state. He has allowed the country to be swamped in the last couple of years. His concubine (or second wife, or whatever) is Muslim, his children have a politicized Muslim grandfather.

    Recently I saw a video from St Pete where during the Ramadan the whole street was full of kneeling Muslims, the whole damn street, it went on and on. If this is the case in St Pete, then imagine what is going on in Moscow. Betrayal. But the chumps deserve it since they've allowed him to stay in power for 25 years and have allowed the Kadyrovites dance on their heads. This is going to be but one of the fissures in the coming unraveling events...

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ, @S1

    It’s quite interesting, isn’t it? Putin is quite eager to sit on two stools simultaneously: The Russian nationalist stool and the Eurasianist stool.

    Of course, if Russian nationalists were smart, then they would try to build a more inclusive tent, similar to what MAGA is trying to do right now by rallying anti-Woke Hispanics and blacks, especially prole men from those groups, to their cause. Historically, some Russian nationalists were at least of Muslim descent:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lvovich_Kazembek

    Also:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Yusupov

    (The latter was at least a Russian nationalist in terms of his actions. The former was a true hardcore Russian nationalist, however.)

  912. @LatW
    @LatW

    Wait, that means his children are Muslim, too. Since they are mostly raised by the mother and her family. I heard those are boys. So Muslim boys. They may be groomed to create a dynasty of Russia's rulers. If he doesn't put one of his daughters in his place. But there may not be enough time to pull this off... we'll see.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Had Russia had a normal (Communist-free) 20th century, it might have had huge Muslim immigration flows during the 20th and 21st centuries. Seriously. Just like more and more Hispanics are constantly complimenting the US, more and more Muslims would have similarly constantly complimented Russia, just so long as their bad apples would have been put under control. Imagine a liberal Russia in the style of Ireland with 500+ million people that’s also a multicultural melange with Eastern Slavs, Central Asian Muslims, South Asian Muslims, East Asians, Caucasians, Jews, Balts/Finns, et cetera. What a delightful mixture! A beautiful tribute and synthesis to Russia’s Eurasian history and culture!

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Just like more and more Hispanics are constantly complimenting the US, more and more Muslims would have similarly constantly complimented Russia, just so long as their bad apples would have been put under control.
     
    Frankly, I doubt that - there was still a strong core Slavic population present in the 1970s and 1980s, who would have not liked to live around those from Muslim republics. You're assuming that the population of a free post-Tsarist Russia would degenerate in the same way the West has degenerated, but this is not a given. Also, the Slavs are more rooted in their homeland than the Americans in the New world (even if those used to be largely Finnic populations that were Slavicized, but that just adds to the point since they had lived there for millennia, not just a few hundred years, their rootedness would help preserve them from outside influence).

    What a delightful mixture! A beautiful tribute and synthesis to Russia’s Eurasian history and culture!
     
    Those are just your wet dreams - nothing beautiful about it at all. The reality is a bit different. Even if some of this Putin's multi-cultural project seems to have worked (most Central Asians seem to be rather peaceful and somewhat decent workers from which this new RusFed has benefited).

    I vaguely remember my Slavic compatriots from the 1980s and, while they were somewhat less "nationalist" in the contemporary sense of the word (ethno nationalism was not allowed), they were also more spiritually or mentally robust and had more cultural (racial) cohesion. They would've very likely been able to keep the non-Slavic populations at bay. Those groups were also smaller in their numbers and mostly stayed in their respective lands. The Slavic population was mentally and culturally dominant. Of course, there were some minor spats and some ethnic nuances (e.g., everyone was aware that the Caucasians are different), but there was nothing like what they have now in RusFed when Caucasians often dominate over Slavs.

    Today's Russians seem to be more nationalistic (intolerant), but they have also become way, way more hedonistic, materialistic, maybe practice more open Orthodoxy, but simultaneously have less cultural cohesion, I feel they're softer inside and are not as robust anymore. They are in a dilemma because they have included all those nationalities in the larger state - so technically they are allowed to live in Moscow as well, even if some of them barely speak Russian.

    Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).

    And then on top of that, they start an neo-colonial, revanchist, imperialist war.. which will inevitably compromise the country's borders and flood the country with semi-automatic weapons. The Russians fighting in Ukraine literally sell their weapons on the border. This is just another sign of the overall chaotization that is bound to begin now. The war has indeed come back home. Where have seen this before...

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Wokechoke

  913. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    я не розмовляю українською

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. Hack

    You’re saying that you don’t wash Ukrainian?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    LOL, I wondered what it really says. This is the google translated offering of "I don't speak Ukrainian."

  914. @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My experience is that the most enthusiastic vaccinators were the mid-wits: not stupid, with three-digit IQs, but very conformist. The smarter people tend to be more skeptical and lower IQ's have more natural common sense.

    Among the top IQ people the vaccinators tend to be the people with 'pre-existing conditions' or who live around people like that. They have been germo-phobes and hypochondriacs their whole lives - they always vaccinate. Maybe Ron fits there.

    Replies: @QCIC

    The result of modern propaganda and public education is that most people in the USA are highly conformist. The number of smart people who question the safety and utility of the mRNA shots is shockingly low. Many smart people in the USA have advanced degrees and this factor probably correlates better with being more conformist than it does with being more competent. I suspect midwits with advanced degrees are extremely conformist and probably often see themselves as gatekeepers of some sort.

    I agree that the idea of a “pre-existing condition” or “at risk status” of a loved one led many people with some vaccine hesitancy to accept the unproven shots as a necessary evil.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...Many smart people in the USA have advanced degrees and this factor probably correlates better with being more conformist than it does with being more competent.
     
    I agree, that's the way they come across. Their living standards are based on goodwill of the 'system'. They know it and fear their bosses and being dropped from what they have. That leads to an extreme form of conformism - unlike many conformist societies in the past they internalize the rules and fear breaking them. They also hide it and put on an (unpaid) show about how all is great. Like circus animals agreeing to train themselves.

    Mid-wits are the sweet spot for conformism. They are just smart enough to know they are disposable. Their obedience is always scary, but with Covid and vaccines they went nuts. Even if they have doubts today they won't show it, they are waiting for an approved narrative - so far there isn't a new one. It may be compulsory forgotten or a lame story about "greater good" and "it can't be proven" will eventually emerge.

    The mid-wits are waiting for some direction. They always do.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  915. @Matra
    Russian nationalists have been complaining for the last year or so about the flood of Muslims from places like Tajikistan into Russia. They've compared it to Merkel in 2015, but apparently Russian media hides this from the public just like their counterparts in the West. Putin's libtard immigration policies have already led to a massive rise in violent crime against ethnic Russians, now an all too predictable terrorist attack. Liberalism is mass suicide.

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry, @AP, @John Johnson

    You mean liberals. Allowed criticism of open borders policy in Russia, was given to the liberals, which I’m surprised was an incorrect liberal policy*.

    Nationalism is illegal in Russia the last fifteen-twenty years, so they were in prison even just saying to close the border online with a nationalist perspective. To be nationalist in the Russian Federation since around 2000-2010 is like to be an “Objectivist” Ayn Rand fan in the Soviet Union.

    Russians, now an all too predictable terrorist attack.

    The trend of Islamist terrorist attacks in Russia has been falling in the last decade. Before the early 2010s, hundreds of Russian citizens were killed each year in the Islamist attacks. These were monthly in the dangerous regions.

    But, in the recent few years even though terrorist is less common than in the previous years, FSB is reporting that it is killing terrorist cells in Russian cities regularly. So, it could be difficult for citizens to guess how much the Islamist terrorism level was falling as it was possible the security service was more competent to prevent the attacks compared to the past.

    Liberalism is mass suicide.

    In Russia, liberalism was the given the role of the criticism of unselective immigration policy. Echo of Moscow, which was indirectly government owned liberal radio in Moscow was criticizing unselective immigration as one of their favorite topics to criticize the government.

    But, mass suicide in Russia this century, we saw later, was for young men trapped inside without an open border during mobilization. A positive reality about Russia now, people can walk across the border at night to Kazakhstan without any fences in the worst case situation, it’s not a hermetically locked container where the organized person should be always trapped by their government.

    *There are cities in Russia with both franchises of Islamic State and Taliban, in the same city. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-168/#comment-4956713 There is also a flow of opium drugs from Central Asia, which is main vector for the HIV epidemic.

    Liberals had been a role to criticize too open borders. But the open borders, save many thousands of Russian men and there is also generosity of the postsoviet states in their visa-requirements to Russian, so Central Asia and Transcaucasia are a safe-space for a lot of Russians these years.

  916. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    Had Russia had a normal (Communist-free) 20th century, it might have had huge Muslim immigration flows during the 20th and 21st centuries. Seriously. Just like more and more Hispanics are constantly complimenting the US, more and more Muslims would have similarly constantly complimented Russia, just so long as their bad apples would have been put under control. Imagine a liberal Russia in the style of Ireland with 500+ million people that's also a multicultural melange with Eastern Slavs, Central Asian Muslims, South Asian Muslims, East Asians, Caucasians, Jews, Balts/Finns, et cetera. What a delightful mixture! A beautiful tribute and synthesis to Russia's Eurasian history and culture!

    Replies: @LatW

    Just like more and more Hispanics are constantly complimenting the US, more and more Muslims would have similarly constantly complimented Russia, just so long as their bad apples would have been put under control.

    Frankly, I doubt that – there was still a strong core Slavic population present in the 1970s and 1980s, who would have not liked to live around those from Muslim republics. You’re assuming that the population of a free post-Tsarist Russia would degenerate in the same way the West has degenerated, but this is not a given. Also, the Slavs are more rooted in their homeland than the Americans in the New world (even if those used to be largely Finnic populations that were Slavicized, but that just adds to the point since they had lived there for millennia, not just a few hundred years, their rootedness would help preserve them from outside influence).

    What a delightful mixture! A beautiful tribute and synthesis to Russia’s Eurasian history and culture!

    Those are just your wet dreams – nothing beautiful about it at all. The reality is a bit different. Even if some of this Putin’s multi-cultural project seems to have worked (most Central Asians seem to be rather peaceful and somewhat decent workers from which this new RusFed has benefited).

    I vaguely remember my Slavic compatriots from the 1980s and, while they were somewhat less “nationalist” in the contemporary sense of the word (ethno nationalism was not allowed), they were also more spiritually or mentally robust and had more cultural (racial) cohesion. They would’ve very likely been able to keep the non-Slavic populations at bay. Those groups were also smaller in their numbers and mostly stayed in their respective lands. The Slavic population was mentally and culturally dominant. Of course, there were some minor spats and some ethnic nuances (e.g., everyone was aware that the Caucasians are different), but there was nothing like what they have now in RusFed when Caucasians often dominate over Slavs.

    Today’s Russians seem to be more nationalistic (intolerant), but they have also become way, way more hedonistic, materialistic, maybe practice more open Orthodoxy, but simultaneously have less cultural cohesion, I feel they’re softer inside and are not as robust anymore. They are in a dilemma because they have included all those nationalities in the larger state – so technically they are allowed to live in Moscow as well, even if some of them barely speak Russian.

    Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).

    And then on top of that, they start an neo-colonial, revanchist, imperialist war.. which will inevitably compromise the country’s borders and flood the country with semi-automatic weapons. The Russians fighting in Ukraine literally sell their weapons on the border. This is just another sign of the overall chaotization that is bound to begin now. The war has indeed come back home. Where have seen this before…

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    Frankly, I doubt that – there was still a strong core Slavic population present in the 1970s and 1980s, who would have not liked to live around those from Muslim republics.
     
    Are you sure about that? Their Jewish-owned media could warm them up to this idea, no? And it would be politically difficult for a liberal democratic Russian government to impose internal migration restrictions like both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks did.

    A lot of white people in the Northern US didn't like the fact that African-Americans from the Southern US were moving into their states and cities, and tried various measures such as restrictive covenants to keep them out of their own neighborhoods (which were eventually unanimously struck down as unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1948), but there was no constitutional mechanism for the US to restrict the internal migration of African-Americans from the Southern US to other parts of the US short of a new US constitutional amendment, which was (and still is) almost impossible to pass and ratify and thus people didn't actually bother with this.


    You’re assuming that the population of a free post-Tsarist Russia would degenerate in the same way the West has degenerated, but this is not a given.
     
    Even formerly heavily Catholic Ireland has degenerated in spite of it being a former colonial victim rather than a former colonial power. Would Russia really be different?

    Also, the Slavs are more rooted in their homeland than the Americans in the New world (even if those used to be largely Finnic populations that were Slavicized, but that just adds to the point since they had lived there for millennia, not just a few hundred years, their rootedness would help preserve them from outside influence).
     
    Russia's presence in Siberia and the Far East is only a couple of centuries long or less. Siberia became Russian in the 1600s, the Russian Far East in the 1800s.

    And Western Europeans have also invited a lot of non-Europeans into their own countries even though Western Europeans have lived in their own countries for an extremely long period of time.


    Those are just your wet dreams – nothing beautiful about it at all. The reality is a bit different. Even if some of this Putin’s multi-cultural project seems to have worked (most Central Asians seem to be rather peaceful and somewhat decent workers from which this new RusFed has benefited).
     
    Do you view Latin Americans and Asians in the US as beautiful?

    I vaguely remember my Slavic compatriots from the 1980s and, while they were somewhat less “nationalist” in the contemporary sense of the word (ethno nationalism was not allowed), they were also more spiritually or mentally robust and had more cultural (racial) cohesion. They would’ve very likely been able to keep the non-Slavic populations at bay. Those groups were also smaller in their numbers and mostly stayed in their respective lands. The Slavic population was mentally and culturally dominant. Of course, there were some minor spats and some ethnic nuances (e.g., everyone was aware that the Caucasians are different), but there was nothing like what they have now in RusFed when Caucasians often dominate over Slavs.
     
    I suspect that in a liberal, democratic, and free Russia, Central Asians and others would have went to where the good jobs were. This would primarily be in the East Slavic heartland of Russia rather than in Central Asia, at least until the late 20th century might turn Central Asia into Russia's version of the Sun Belt--no?

    It's similar to how the good jobs in the US were mostly outside of the Southern US and once mass immigration to the US mostly stopped in the 1910s due to WWI and later severe immigration restrictions, Northern businesses, companies, and industries began actively courting cheap black labor from the Southern US.


    Today’s Russians seem to be more nationalistic (intolerant), but they have also become way, way more hedonistic, materialistic, maybe practice more open Orthodoxy, but simultaneously have less cultural cohesion, I feel they’re softer inside and are not as robust anymore. They are in a dilemma because they have included all those nationalities in the larger state – so technically they are allowed to live in Moscow as well, even if some of them barely speak Russian.
     
    Russian Orthodoxy nowadays I suspect is largely fake other than among the elderly and Russian diaspora, no?

    And technically speaking, a non-Bolshevik Russia would have likely kept Central Asia up to the present-day. It would have all been a part of one great big country in the form of Greater Russia.


    Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).

     

    Yep, which indicates that radical Islam is a very serious problem in general, not just limited to Western Muslims or to Muslims back in their own home countries.

    And then on top of that, they start an neo-colonial, revanchist, imperialist war.. which will inevitably compromise the country’s borders and flood the country with semi-automatic weapons. The Russians fighting in Ukraine literally sell their weapons on the border. This is just another sign of the overall chaotization that is bound to begin now. The war has indeed come back home. Where have seen this before…

     

    The war in Ukraine really is a huge tragedy. :( No doubt about that. Putin, like Hitler in 1941, expected a quick victory over a rotten opponent and got something entirely different and much bloodier, including for his own side.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    “Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).“


    The gunmen fled west, they were captured in an area that could have led to either Belarus (then to the Baltic’s or Poland), or if they turned left a little to Ukraine.

    You stink of something.

    It was obviously a western sponsored attack given these 4 gunmen’s exit direction.

  917. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Sorry, I don't have any helpful government career advice. Instead, I suggest a project for you. Seek out writings from Ukrainians who spoke out against the Western project from the beginning. The best and most eloquent of these writings can be compiled into a brief book which explains to future generations why this fiasco was wrong on so many levels and how to avoid similar bloodbaths in different places.

    My conspiracy status at Unz is way down the list. I'm merely an interested watcher of these things. I do think A123 is sort of a conspiracy in his own right. I wonder if he is a Shabbos goy like Trump (with a Jewish father), which gives both of them terrible conflicts?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    ROTFL — You are WAY more conspiratorial than I am.

    I tell simple truths about the way America actually is. For example, SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim is real in the U.S., and amazingly unsubtle. What names spring to mind when you think of Islamic politicians in America?
        • Ilhan Omar
        • Rashida Tlaib
        • Keith Ellison

    Can you name any state or federal elected Muslim official who is not a hate raging SJW🏳️‍🌈Leftoid? I did not think so. Allowing near powerless groups to pressure school boards is maskirovka. Deception to provide cover for the woke deviant, Islamic Globalist cause.

    This leading Democrat is an Islamophile nutter. He is so extreme he wants to fund HAMAS/UNRWA, despite the proven connection to October 7 atrocities: (1)

    On Saturday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Weekend,” House Foreign Affairs Committee Ranking Member Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY) said he is “very upset” about the government funding bill stripping funding for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) over accusations that multiple UNRWA employees participated in the October 7

    The DNC is now the party of Muhammad. Look at what IslamoGloboHomo forced their Dhimmi slave, Chuck Schumer to say publicly.

    Why do you invent conspiracies to undermine Judeo-Christian values? Have you considered being a little less SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim crazy?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/03/23/dem-rep-meeks-ive-talked-about-getting-money-to-unrwa-by-proxy-very-upset-congress-defunded-it/

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    Can you name any state or federal elected Muslim official who is not a hate raging SJW🏳️‍🌈Leftoid?
     
    Mehmet Oz would have qualified had the 2022 Pennsylvania US Senate election not been rigged against him lol. (How do I know this? Because the Deep State will NEVER, EVER allow ANY MAGA Muslim to win lol!)
    , @QCIC
    @A123

    I'm not pro-Muslim at all. I think they are one of the minor scourges of Western civilization. Your points regarding Islamist problems are valid but I wonder why you go so easy on them? On the other hand, your inconsistency is with the (((other guys))). Don't worry about it, we know where you stand.

    +++

    It sounds like your buddy Hack is losing it. You may need to start sharing your glue to calm him down.

    Replies: @A123

  918. @QCIC
    @Beckow

    The result of modern propaganda and public education is that most people in the USA are highly conformist. The number of smart people who question the safety and utility of the mRNA shots is shockingly low. Many smart people in the USA have advanced degrees and this factor probably correlates better with being more conformist than it does with being more competent. I suspect midwits with advanced degrees are extremely conformist and probably often see themselves as gatekeepers of some sort.

    I agree that the idea of a "pre-existing condition" or "at risk status" of a loved one led many people with some vaccine hesitancy to accept the unproven shots as a necessary evil.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Many smart people in the USA have advanced degrees and this factor probably correlates better with being more conformist than it does with being more competent.

    I agree, that’s the way they come across. Their living standards are based on goodwill of the ‘system’. They know it and fear their bosses and being dropped from what they have. That leads to an extreme form of conformism – unlike many conformist societies in the past they internalize the rules and fear breaking them. They also hide it and put on an (unpaid) show about how all is great. Like circus animals agreeing to train themselves.

    Mid-wits are the sweet spot for conformism. They are just smart enough to know they are disposable. Their obedience is always scary, but with Covid and vaccines they went nuts. Even if they have doubts today they won’t show it, they are waiting for an approved narrative – so far there isn’t a new one. It may be compulsory forgotten or a lame story about “greater good” and “it can’t be proven” will eventually emerge.

    The mid-wits are waiting for some direction. They always do.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    The topmost criterion could be vaccine injury awareness. People who have been injured by vaccines, or who have loved ones, relations, close friends with experience of vaccine injury are in one class. The fortunate people who have not been so touched are in another. I would be very interested in accurate numbers and the data are skunked. Unz says 20-30% of the population are anti-vax crackpots and the CDC says 90% of the people are vaccinated.

    Since everybody's numbers are made up I can claim the 20-30 is way too low and the 90 is way too high. I am personally aware of humans who have been injured by vaccines. All they can do for now is avoid more vaccines. If the cops come to their door with a hypodermic needle and a court order there might be a gunfight.

    Do you guys have guns in Slovakia?

    Replies: @QCIC

  919. @Matra
    Russian nationalists have been complaining for the last year or so about the flood of Muslims from places like Tajikistan into Russia. They've compared it to Merkel in 2015, but apparently Russian media hides this from the public just like their counterparts in the West. Putin's libtard immigration policies have already led to a massive rise in violent crime against ethnic Russians, now an all too predictable terrorist attack. Liberalism is mass suicide.

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry, @AP, @John Johnson

    The war accelerates the trend.

    Westoids don’t know this but Russia has a worker’s shortage right now due to the war.
    Putin has signed “path to citizenship” laws and tried to make it appealing for central Asians to immigrate.

    He can’t attack tajiks as he attacked Chechens in the 00s.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    If Russia will ever go genuinely liberal, free, democratic, and pro-Western after Putin and seek EU integration, then it would fit in quite nicely in the EU together with Western Europe. I do hope that Russia's Muslim integration story will on net be a much bigger success than Western Europe's was, though. Western Europe would have been much better off importing Hindus or even Latin Americans if they wanted cheap labor.

    As I previously told LatW, I would expect a Russia that avoids decades of Bolshevik/Communist rule to be much more Muslim than it is right now, both in total and specifically in its East Slavic heartland due to mass Muslim migration from Central Asia and elsewhere into Russia's East Slavic heartland. Good luck restricting internal migration in a free, liberal, and democratic Russia that also still includes Central Asia! (Northern US whites didn't want Southern blacks either, but there was no constitutional mechanism to prevent them from moving in extremely massive numbers from the Southern US to the Northern US during the Great Migration.)

    , @Philip Owen
    @AP

    Within days of Russia attacking Ukraine, the Saratov provincial government was discussing how to hire work brigades with Uzbekistan to cover likely labour shortages.

  920. @LatW
    @Matra

    Of course, it was him! He talks that way all the time. For years. It's still an empire, not a nation state. He has allowed the country to be swamped in the last couple of years. His concubine (or second wife, or whatever) is Muslim, his children have a politicized Muslim grandfather.

    Recently I saw a video from St Pete where during the Ramadan the whole street was full of kneeling Muslims, the whole damn street, it went on and on. If this is the case in St Pete, then imagine what is going on in Moscow. Betrayal. But the chumps deserve it since they've allowed him to stay in power for 25 years and have allowed the Kadyrovites dance on their heads. This is going to be but one of the fissures in the coming unraveling events...

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ, @S1

    Recently I saw a video from St Pete where during the Ramadan the whole street was full of kneeling Muslims, the whole damn street, it went on and on. If this is the case in St Pete, then imagine what is going on in Moscow. Betrayal.

    With some exceptions, it’s that way in almost all the European spaces, and I do think it’s quite deliberate and even orchestrated to some degree.

    In the likely coming WWIII, these unasked for Moslems in Europe, with Euro and Moslem being in each other’s faces, will add fuel to the fire. It will cause more breakdown of identity across the board, particularly for Euros, but for Islamics too.

    ‘Creative destruction’ I think they call it.

  921. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Just like more and more Hispanics are constantly complimenting the US, more and more Muslims would have similarly constantly complimented Russia, just so long as their bad apples would have been put under control.
     
    Frankly, I doubt that - there was still a strong core Slavic population present in the 1970s and 1980s, who would have not liked to live around those from Muslim republics. You're assuming that the population of a free post-Tsarist Russia would degenerate in the same way the West has degenerated, but this is not a given. Also, the Slavs are more rooted in their homeland than the Americans in the New world (even if those used to be largely Finnic populations that were Slavicized, but that just adds to the point since they had lived there for millennia, not just a few hundred years, their rootedness would help preserve them from outside influence).

    What a delightful mixture! A beautiful tribute and synthesis to Russia’s Eurasian history and culture!
     
    Those are just your wet dreams - nothing beautiful about it at all. The reality is a bit different. Even if some of this Putin's multi-cultural project seems to have worked (most Central Asians seem to be rather peaceful and somewhat decent workers from which this new RusFed has benefited).

    I vaguely remember my Slavic compatriots from the 1980s and, while they were somewhat less "nationalist" in the contemporary sense of the word (ethno nationalism was not allowed), they were also more spiritually or mentally robust and had more cultural (racial) cohesion. They would've very likely been able to keep the non-Slavic populations at bay. Those groups were also smaller in their numbers and mostly stayed in their respective lands. The Slavic population was mentally and culturally dominant. Of course, there were some minor spats and some ethnic nuances (e.g., everyone was aware that the Caucasians are different), but there was nothing like what they have now in RusFed when Caucasians often dominate over Slavs.

    Today's Russians seem to be more nationalistic (intolerant), but they have also become way, way more hedonistic, materialistic, maybe practice more open Orthodoxy, but simultaneously have less cultural cohesion, I feel they're softer inside and are not as robust anymore. They are in a dilemma because they have included all those nationalities in the larger state - so technically they are allowed to live in Moscow as well, even if some of them barely speak Russian.

    Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).

    And then on top of that, they start an neo-colonial, revanchist, imperialist war.. which will inevitably compromise the country's borders and flood the country with semi-automatic weapons. The Russians fighting in Ukraine literally sell their weapons on the border. This is just another sign of the overall chaotization that is bound to begin now. The war has indeed come back home. Where have seen this before...

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Wokechoke

    Frankly, I doubt that – there was still a strong core Slavic population present in the 1970s and 1980s, who would have not liked to live around those from Muslim republics.

    Are you sure about that? Their Jewish-owned media could warm them up to this idea, no? And it would be politically difficult for a liberal democratic Russian government to impose internal migration restrictions like both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks did.

    A lot of white people in the Northern US didn’t like the fact that African-Americans from the Southern US were moving into their states and cities, and tried various measures such as restrictive covenants to keep them out of their own neighborhoods (which were eventually unanimously struck down as unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1948), but there was no constitutional mechanism for the US to restrict the internal migration of African-Americans from the Southern US to other parts of the US short of a new US constitutional amendment, which was (and still is) almost impossible to pass and ratify and thus people didn’t actually bother with this.

    You’re assuming that the population of a free post-Tsarist Russia would degenerate in the same way the West has degenerated, but this is not a given.

    Even formerly heavily Catholic Ireland has degenerated in spite of it being a former colonial victim rather than a former colonial power. Would Russia really be different?

    Also, the Slavs are more rooted in their homeland than the Americans in the New world (even if those used to be largely Finnic populations that were Slavicized, but that just adds to the point since they had lived there for millennia, not just a few hundred years, their rootedness would help preserve them from outside influence).

    Russia’s presence in Siberia and the Far East is only a couple of centuries long or less. Siberia became Russian in the 1600s, the Russian Far East in the 1800s.

    And Western Europeans have also invited a lot of non-Europeans into their own countries even though Western Europeans have lived in their own countries for an extremely long period of time.

    Those are just your wet dreams – nothing beautiful about it at all. The reality is a bit different. Even if some of this Putin’s multi-cultural project seems to have worked (most Central Asians seem to be rather peaceful and somewhat decent workers from which this new RusFed has benefited).

    Do you view Latin Americans and Asians in the US as beautiful?

    I vaguely remember my Slavic compatriots from the 1980s and, while they were somewhat less “nationalist” in the contemporary sense of the word (ethno nationalism was not allowed), they were also more spiritually or mentally robust and had more cultural (racial) cohesion. They would’ve very likely been able to keep the non-Slavic populations at bay. Those groups were also smaller in their numbers and mostly stayed in their respective lands. The Slavic population was mentally and culturally dominant. Of course, there were some minor spats and some ethnic nuances (e.g., everyone was aware that the Caucasians are different), but there was nothing like what they have now in RusFed when Caucasians often dominate over Slavs.

    I suspect that in a liberal, democratic, and free Russia, Central Asians and others would have went to where the good jobs were. This would primarily be in the East Slavic heartland of Russia rather than in Central Asia, at least until the late 20th century might turn Central Asia into Russia’s version of the Sun Belt–no?

    It’s similar to how the good jobs in the US were mostly outside of the Southern US and once mass immigration to the US mostly stopped in the 1910s due to WWI and later severe immigration restrictions, Northern businesses, companies, and industries began actively courting cheap black labor from the Southern US.

    Today’s Russians seem to be more nationalistic (intolerant), but they have also become way, way more hedonistic, materialistic, maybe practice more open Orthodoxy, but simultaneously have less cultural cohesion, I feel they’re softer inside and are not as robust anymore. They are in a dilemma because they have included all those nationalities in the larger state – so technically they are allowed to live in Moscow as well, even if some of them barely speak Russian.

    Russian Orthodoxy nowadays I suspect is largely fake other than among the elderly and Russian diaspora, no?

    And technically speaking, a non-Bolshevik Russia would have likely kept Central Asia up to the present-day. It would have all been a part of one great big country in the form of Greater Russia.

    Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).

    Yep, which indicates that radical Islam is a very serious problem in general, not just limited to Western Muslims or to Muslims back in their own home countries.

    And then on top of that, they start an neo-colonial, revanchist, imperialist war.. which will inevitably compromise the country’s borders and flood the country with semi-automatic weapons. The Russians fighting in Ukraine literally sell their weapons on the border. This is just another sign of the overall chaotization that is bound to begin now. The war has indeed come back home. Where have seen this before…

    The war in Ukraine really is a huge tragedy. 🙁 No doubt about that. Putin, like Hitler in 1941, expected a quick victory over a rotten opponent and got something entirely different and much bloodier, including for his own side.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Are you sure about that? Their Jewish-owned media could warm them up to this idea, no?
     
    This is highly speculative. You assume it would've been some Weimar republic, when it just as well could've turned into a more or less mild autocracy similar to the 1930s wave in Europe. You like to speak as if the Jews are omnipotent. There was an awareness of Jewishness (even before 1991). You have no idea to what extent it would have been accepted and how deep they would be allowed to go. Jews often have to play along with the majority at least to some extent (in that region).


    Maybe your dad didn't want to (I don't really blame him). Some of those others who tried ended up having crazy biographies.

    And it would be politically difficult for a liberal democratic Russian government to impose internal migration restrictions like both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks did.
     
    Why do you assume it would be a "liberal democracy"? In Russia, haha? When even in the rest of Europe there wasn't? Or in those places where there was, it was still conservative? You are quite a dreamer.

    A lot of white people in the Northern US didn’t like the fact that African-Americans from the Southern US were moving into their states and cities
     
    There are still parts of the US where blacks do not live together with Whites. There is self-segregation. This issue is touchy and somewhat specific to America, so I'm not sure this is a good comparison to Russia.

    Even formerly heavily Catholic Ireland has degenerated in spite of it being a former colonial victim rather than a former colonial power. Would Russia really be different?
     
    This is very recent, same as in Finland. Finland was completely pure until very recently. There is something else going on, possibly economic. With a solid Slavic dominance, the way that was still there in the 1980s, those lands would have stayed predominantly Slavic. They would have only had to secure themselves economically to maintain the birth rate. Birth rate depended on confidence in the future - that could've been arranged without immigrants.

    Russia’s presence in Siberia and the Far East is only a couple of centuries long or less. Siberia became Russian in the 1600s, the Russian Far East in the 1800s.
     
    Those are colonized lands (and remain colonies still to this day, as they are being heavily extracted). I was talking about the Slavic (and Finnic) homelands.

    And Western Europeans have also invited a lot of non-Europeans into their own countries even though Western Europeans have lived in their own countries for an extremely long period of time.

     

    The assimilation in Western Europe seems slower than in America. I think that America also accepts more people from Asia than W.Europe (such as Chinese and Indians).


    Do you view Latin Americans and Asians in the US as beautiful?
     
    I wasn't talking about the actual people not being beautiful, but your delusional picture of a race mixed society as something being by default beautiful. Yes, racial harmony might be beautiful, but so is homogeneity and a natural existence of a tribe and a society. Do I view individual people from those groups you mention as beautiful? I love people so I do see beauty in them internal and on the outside, you have to love the human being, and that's where the beauty lies. Same as you love an older person or a child because you see the intrinsic beauty in them. Every human being was put on this planet by Nature in the form that they come in. You love and accept and appreciate what has been laid out by Nature. But if you're asking purely based on a personal sense of aesthetics, then I consider the people I grew up with as more beautiful. Beauty is universal though. Every group has it to some extent.

    I find Mayan women interesting based purely on their "ancient" features, even if I tower over them, they do have good, strong hair. Who am I to judge them? And I find certain things that Asian people do beautiful, sometimes their demeanor, and even some individuals. Mayans lived closer to this continent than Europeans, and Samoans do, too. It doesn't mean they are fully entitled to it, as they still have their own ancestral lands. Some Samoans can be rather beautiful, some men. Many Native Americans I find beautiful (and even graceful sometimes).

    So? That doesn't mean you have to promote artificially mixed societies.

    I suspect that in a liberal, democratic, and free Russia, Central Asians and others would have went to where the good jobs were.
     
    Well, that's what they have now. Most of them are good workers and are peaceful, however, with the scale of immigration and the sheer numbers which are bigger than we even know - not everything will be ideal. If there is conflict or a crisis, these differences will be exacerbated. There have always been ethnic mafias in Russia. Caucasian groups are quite virile, they would be intimidating for someone like yourself - no offense, since they are Muslim on top of it.

    Above all - it is somewhat undemocratic, because nobody asks the populace if this is ok. And they're going to try to pull the same thing in the rest of Eastern Europe. Without a democratic mandate (read: against the will of the majority). You keep posing as some big democrat and liberal - how is this democratic?

    That said, I'd say things in America seem to be worse than in RusFed. In RusFed, these nationalities seem to be arriving from the former colonies that are relatively near by and where there has been some prior cultural exchange. But in America the new arrivals are Somalis, and others from very distant cultures that have no connection to the US main culture at all.

    Russian Orthodoxy nowadays I suspect is largely fake other than among the elderly and Russian diaspora, no?
     
    You can't look into a person's heart. A lot of it is obviously fake, but many of them are real.

    Religion is a private matter that shouldn't be flaunted left and right as is often done these days. Much less used for political purposes. (Unless it is Euro paganism, hehe).

    And technically speaking, a non-Bolshevik Russia would have likely kept Central Asia up to the present-day. It would have all been a part of one great big country in the form of Greater Russia.

     

    You're assuming that only the Slavs would secularize in such a large common economic project and not Central Asians. Yea, right, the Central Asians would arrive into Slavic economies and stay traditional forever? The ones who arrive are often atomized.

    Yep, which indicates that radical Islam is a very serious problem in general, not just limited to Western Muslims or to Muslims back in their own home countries.
     
    On an ideological level, radical Islam has quite a few pluses but it should stay in the home countries. When they try to sit on two chairs by taking up the Euro space and maintaining their religion which is contemptuous of Europe, then that's a problem.

    The war in Ukraine really is a huge tragedy.
     
    It is the worst thing ever, but not only that - it might turn into something unexpected (for those who masterminded it). It is far from over.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ

  922. @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    You're saying that you don't wash Ukrainian?

    Replies: @QCIC

    LOL, I wondered what it really says. This is the google translated offering of “I don’t speak Ukrainian.”

  923. @AP
    Azerbaijan has figured it out: the Armenians did it.

    From the Azeri Times:

    “ The terrorist attack at a Moscow mall, owned by an Azerbaijani billionaire, specifically targeting the Muslim Magomayev Hall, named after the renowned Azerbaijani opera singer, has shifted attention towards a potential Armenian link to the incident”



    https://twitter.com/Sharon_Kuruvila/status/1771277074822561908?s=20

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @Dmitry

    Azeri Times journalists are only paid to promote that agenda, we can guess.

    Crocus City Hall in Moscow, the terrorists attacked, is one of important infrastructures for the Baku-Moscow cultural diplomacy. Crocus would be inherited by the next generation of Azerbaijan’s ruling family, as property owned by Aliev’s grandchildrens’ father and grandfather. It was like a palace ballroom of Azerbaijan’s royal family.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/C1PhYAWtGOm They used it for promoting Baku in Moscow.

  924. @AP
    @Matra

    The war accelerates the trend.

    Westoids don't know this but Russia has a worker's shortage right now due to the war.
    Putin has signed "path to citizenship" laws and tried to make it appealing for central Asians to immigrate.

    He can't attack tajiks as he attacked Chechens in the 00s.



    https://twitter.com/pfizerlabrat/status/1771636981891580385?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Philip Owen

    If Russia will ever go genuinely liberal, free, democratic, and pro-Western after Putin and seek EU integration, then it would fit in quite nicely in the EU together with Western Europe. I do hope that Russia’s Muslim integration story will on net be a much bigger success than Western Europe’s was, though. Western Europe would have been much better off importing Hindus or even Latin Americans if they wanted cheap labor.

    As I previously told LatW, I would expect a Russia that avoids decades of Bolshevik/Communist rule to be much more Muslim than it is right now, both in total and specifically in its East Slavic heartland due to mass Muslim migration from Central Asia and elsewhere into Russia’s East Slavic heartland. Good luck restricting internal migration in a free, liberal, and democratic Russia that also still includes Central Asia! (Northern US whites didn’t want Southern blacks either, but there was no constitutional mechanism to prevent them from moving in extremely massive numbers from the Southern US to the Northern US during the Great Migration.)

  925. @A123
    @QCIC

    ROTFL -- You are WAY more conspiratorial than I am.

    I tell simple truths about the way America actually is. For example, SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim is real in the U.S., and amazingly unsubtle. What names spring to mind when you think of Islamic politicians in America?
        • Ilhan Omar
        • Rashida Tlaib
        • Keith Ellison

    Can you name any state or federal elected Muslim official who is not a hate raging SJW🏳️‍🌈Leftoid? I did not think so. Allowing near powerless groups to pressure school boards is maskirovka. Deception to provide cover for the woke deviant, Islamic Globalist cause.

    This leading Democrat is an Islamophile nutter. He is so extreme he wants to fund HAMAS/UNRWA, despite the proven connection to October 7 atrocities: (1)


    On Saturday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Weekend,” House Foreign Affairs Committee Ranking Member Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY) said he is “very upset” about the government funding bill stripping funding for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) over accusations that multiple UNRWA employees participated in the October 7
     
    The DNC is now the party of Muhammad. Look at what IslamoGloboHomo forced their Dhimmi slave, Chuck Schumer to say publicly.

    Why do you invent conspiracies to undermine Judeo-Christian values? Have you considered being a little less SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim crazy?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/03/23/dem-rep-meeks-ive-talked-about-getting-money-to-unrwa-by-proxy-very-upset-congress-defunded-it/

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    Can you name any state or federal elected Muslim official who is not a hate raging SJW🏳️‍🌈Leftoid?

    Mehmet Oz would have qualified had the 2022 Pennsylvania US Senate election not been rigged against him lol. (How do I know this? Because the Deep State will NEVER, EVER allow ANY MAGA Muslim to win lol!)

    • LOL: A123
  926. @A123
    @QCIC

    ROTFL -- You are WAY more conspiratorial than I am.

    I tell simple truths about the way America actually is. For example, SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim is real in the U.S., and amazingly unsubtle. What names spring to mind when you think of Islamic politicians in America?
        • Ilhan Omar
        • Rashida Tlaib
        • Keith Ellison

    Can you name any state or federal elected Muslim official who is not a hate raging SJW🏳️‍🌈Leftoid? I did not think so. Allowing near powerless groups to pressure school boards is maskirovka. Deception to provide cover for the woke deviant, Islamic Globalist cause.

    This leading Democrat is an Islamophile nutter. He is so extreme he wants to fund HAMAS/UNRWA, despite the proven connection to October 7 atrocities: (1)


    On Saturday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Weekend,” House Foreign Affairs Committee Ranking Member Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY) said he is “very upset” about the government funding bill stripping funding for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) over accusations that multiple UNRWA employees participated in the October 7
     
    The DNC is now the party of Muhammad. Look at what IslamoGloboHomo forced their Dhimmi slave, Chuck Schumer to say publicly.

    Why do you invent conspiracies to undermine Judeo-Christian values? Have you considered being a little less SJW🏳️‍🌈Muslim crazy?

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    ____________________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/03/23/dem-rep-meeks-ive-talked-about-getting-money-to-unrwa-by-proxy-very-upset-congress-defunded-it/

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    I’m not pro-Muslim at all. I think they are one of the minor scourges of Western civilization. Your points regarding Islamist problems are valid but I wonder why you go so easy on them? On the other hand, your inconsistency is with the (((other guys))). Don’t worry about it, we know where you stand.

    +++

    It sounds like your buddy Hack is losing it. You may need to start sharing your glue to calm him down.

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    your inconsistency is with the (((other guys)))
     
    That does not makes any sense. I am 100% consistent with my support for the other guys. Most notably, (((Jesus))) and (((God))).

    The #1 certain test that proves one is a Muslim, or Dhimmi slave, is trying to pit Jews and Christians against each other. You have failed this measure repeatedly. Why do you hate Judeo-Christians like (((Jesus Christ)))?

    No matter how much you push Taqiyya deception for your prophet, the Anti-Christ Muhammad..... It is not going to work. Those of us who believe in (((Jesus Christ))) and (((God))) oppose your IslamoGloboHomo.
    ____

    Sadly, Mr. Hack is mentally ill. He needs psychiatric assistance and most likely significant medication. Alas, there is nothing anyone can do unless he wants help. After Kiev capitulates, perhaps there will be an opportunity?

    Until then all I can do as a Christian is -- Feel pity for him, and offer Forgiveness.


    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  927. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. Hack

    The problem with Poland in the interwar era is that it refused to become a genuine federation. That, and it didn't liberate as many Ukrainians and Belarusians from Soviet rule as it could have. Though arguably having Poland ally with the Russian Whites during the RCW would have been the best of all, even at the expense of a Curzon Line eastern border for Poland.

    Poland likely was a gentler master for Ukrainians than both Tsarist Russia and the USSR were. At least, Ukrainians' population ratio relative to the Poles was better than it was relative to the Russians. Thus giving more room for potential Ukrainian influence on various decisions, at least in a genuine democratic state, which admittedly both the PLC and often the Second Polish Republic were not (but neither were either the Russian Empire or the Soviet Union).

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The great Ukrainian national bard, Taras Shevchenko, had this to say:

    У своїй хаті своя правда, і сила, і воля»

    which translated means:

    In ones own house one may find ones own truth, strength and freedom.

  928. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    я не розмовляю українською

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. Hack

    Well, why are you then doling out advice if you don’t understand the language, the topic at hand? Par for the course for you and your abilities to hold an intelligent conversation. 🙁

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Much of my advice stems from looking at the bigger picture which is sorely lacking in some of these dialogs. You should try it.

    My awareness of the big picture leads me to believe there were wise Ukrainians who warned against this mess and were probably driven out or murdered by NeoNazis. I don't read Ukrainian so I leave it to others to unearth their wisdom. You may find solace in this project.

  929. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...Many smart people in the USA have advanced degrees and this factor probably correlates better with being more conformist than it does with being more competent.
     
    I agree, that's the way they come across. Their living standards are based on goodwill of the 'system'. They know it and fear their bosses and being dropped from what they have. That leads to an extreme form of conformism - unlike many conformist societies in the past they internalize the rules and fear breaking them. They also hide it and put on an (unpaid) show about how all is great. Like circus animals agreeing to train themselves.

    Mid-wits are the sweet spot for conformism. They are just smart enough to know they are disposable. Their obedience is always scary, but with Covid and vaccines they went nuts. Even if they have doubts today they won't show it, they are waiting for an approved narrative - so far there isn't a new one. It may be compulsory forgotten or a lame story about "greater good" and "it can't be proven" will eventually emerge.

    The mid-wits are waiting for some direction. They always do.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The topmost criterion could be vaccine injury awareness. People who have been injured by vaccines, or who have loved ones, relations, close friends with experience of vaccine injury are in one class. The fortunate people who have not been so touched are in another. I would be very interested in accurate numbers and the data are skunked. Unz says 20-30% of the population are anti-vax crackpots and the CDC says 90% of the people are vaccinated.

    Since everybody’s numbers are made up I can claim the 20-30 is way too low and the 90 is way too high. I am personally aware of humans who have been injured by vaccines. All they can do for now is avoid more vaccines. If the cops come to their door with a hypodermic needle and a court order there might be a gunfight.

    Do you guys have guns in Slovakia?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    At the time of COVID I worked for an East Coast company with about 120 employees, many with college engineering degrees (~ 50%). I was the only one willing to be let go when the company imposed a government contractor vaccine mandate. I believe there were two or three other skeptics who ultimately decided to get the vax. Prior to COVID I was not an arch anti-vaxxer, though I was intrigued by the vaccine-autism link and similar discussions. I am not vocal about it, but when asked I explain the mRNA shots are not adequately tested and I already had COVID. I suspect the other 146 employees think I'm crazy. Anecdotally I am aware of numerous people in this cohort with some moderate vaccine reaction (one to two days off work, enough to talk about) and one I suspect with a very serious reaction. I know of about five people in the group with relatives hospitalized with COVID and maybe another five with elderly relatives who died from some neglect resulting from the mandated isolation. There were probably more people in both categories.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  930. @QCIC
    @A123

    I'm not pro-Muslim at all. I think they are one of the minor scourges of Western civilization. Your points regarding Islamist problems are valid but I wonder why you go so easy on them? On the other hand, your inconsistency is with the (((other guys))). Don't worry about it, we know where you stand.

    +++

    It sounds like your buddy Hack is losing it. You may need to start sharing your glue to calm him down.

    Replies: @A123

    your inconsistency is with the (((other guys)))

    That does not makes any sense. I am 100% consistent with my support for the other guys. Most notably, (((Jesus))) and (((God))).

    The #1 certain test that proves one is a Muslim, or Dhimmi slave, is trying to pit Jews and Christians against each other. You have failed this measure repeatedly. Why do you hate Judeo-Christians like (((Jesus Christ)))?

    No matter how much you push Taqiyya deception for your prophet, the Anti-Christ Muhammad….. It is not going to work. Those of us who believe in (((Jesus Christ))) and (((God))) oppose your IslamoGloboHomo.
    ____

    Sadly, Mr. Hack is mentally ill. He needs psychiatric assistance and most likely significant medication. Alas, there is nothing anyone can do unless he wants help. After Kiev capitulates, perhaps there will be an opportunity?

    Until then all I can do as a Christian is — Feel pity for him, and offer Forgiveness.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Save your cynical forgiveness for yourself kremlinstoogeA123. The type of Christianity that you defend would make the Lord angry and hurry him to cleanse the world of those that support the shedding of innocent civilian blood.

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2023/04/15/ba97930197dd84a371499853fe279c0e.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp
    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves." Matthew 7:15.

  931. @Coconuts
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    He makes it sound like Nazi France was a pretty cool place.
     
    Junger was still a German nationalist, it was the sort of pov they tended to have.

    Like in 1914, in the time of the spikey helmets, they were outraged that the Belgians were shooting at them as they were trying to bring Belgium the gift of Culture.

    Recently I translated a book by a man who knew Junger in Paris during the war, sometimes he gets called the French version of Junger. He publicly pledged himself to collaboration with the 'Hitlerians' but was less relaxed about it how it was being received by the wider French public.

    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of 'beauty as violence', and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW

    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of ‘beauty as violence’, and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.

    There seems to be a strong subjective element here (but of course the vibe of those times is strongly felt upon his writing as well). Drieu seems to have had some ideological fluctuations (even though he remained faithful to his ideology in the end), he also sounds a bit tormented by what he had gathered from his life experiences (he seems to have had a somewhat of a bohemian lifestyle prior to his conversion to fascism, so his criticism of the modern urban life and the rejection of it can be viewed as reactionary, the longing and fascination with the vitality of the Middle Ages though is something that will resonate with many Europeans, regardless of their life experiences). Of course, he has a poet’s soul and thus more sensitive.

    And Jünger socialized with avant-garde and surrealist thinkers in Paris. And some who, while interesting, may have been even more questionable from the point of view of National Socialist ethics. But this is understandable with intellectuals and writers.

    Others, such as Léon Degrelle, seem to have been much more consistent and confident in their political position (him being an intellectual as well, albeit not of the poetic type). Maybe because he, while still an intellectual, is more of a pure warrior type.

    [MORE]

    some fascination with doom and suicide

    There is also a beautiful and natural acceptance of death in Drieu’s essay. I’ll quote with your permission (some of the thoughts here are almost pagan sounding and almost reminiscent of Nietzsche’s affirmation of life):

    I am not protesting against the passage of time, in the way that vulgar reactionaries and archaists might, but I ask that people admit the fatality of time. For myself, having the gift of recognizing death whenever it makes its presence felt in life never prevents me from joyfully contemplating this mortal blooming. I would wish it were the same for others, because understanding is only complete when it is tempered with bitterness and joy only speaks truthfully to us if it leads to the final tragic masked ball. It is part of human decency and dignity to acknowledge that what begins ends, sparing itself in the process from childish self-deception. Leave to one side the stupid and rigid pride in the idea of progress and return to a more comprehensive philosophy of the seasons. This is both more useful and fitting. It becomes possible to appreciate that at the point where one thing dies, another is reborn.

    Also, hints of archeofuturism:

    Humanity is just as much here as there, in its past as in its present. The future may turn out to be richer in the qualities of the past than the present.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @LatW


    Leave to one side the stupid and rigid pride in the idea of progress and return to a more comprehensive philosophy of the seasons.
     
    Interesting that you chose to highlight this sentence. I've never really understood this fascination with cyclicality - or more to the point, why it's considered so much superior. So life is in part bitter and tragic and all things must eventually come to an end, well okay, but why in the world does that require me to give up "the idea of progress"? Can't I appreciate bitterness and tragedy and finality at the same time as I work to improve those things which can be improved? Do I have to spend every waking moment contemplating the 'last things'? It's like you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a mud hut with witch doctor medicine or you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a HVAC apartment with scientific and state-funded medicine. Isn't the latter obviously better than the former? Why is it such a crime to describe it as "progress" then? What is "stupid" about it?

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Coconuts
    @LatW


    And Jünger socialized with avant-garde and surrealist thinkers in Paris. And some who, while interesting, may have been even more questionable from the point of view of National Socialist ethics. But this is understandable with intellectuals and writers.

     

    I get the impression that Junger was more grounded than Drieu. There is an interesting book by the guy who translated most of Junger's works into French called Deux individus contre l'histoire which is a parallel study of Drieu and Junger, it's one I plan to re-read when I have time.

    Degrelle seems to have been more like the man of action that Drieu often wished he was, like a right-wing version of Malraux (Degrelle probably did even more fighting and risky stuff). I don't know if Drieu ever got to know much about him, despite the shared language and culture I don't remember many references to what was going on among the Walloons. I think after the war Degrelle's profile grew.

    Originally I brought up this side of Drieu's experience because of some of the earlier comments in the thread about how eager the French were to collaborate with Germany during the occupation. Whereas most of the pro-German French seem to have been aware of the riskiness of what they were doing from the beginning, then especially when the limits of what the Germans were prepared to offer became more clear.


    I’ll quote with your permission (some of the thoughts here are almost pagan sounding and almost reminiscent of Nietzsche’s affirmation of life):
     
    This is true, this is from Drieu's commentary on an exchange of correspondence he had with Charles Maurras in early 1939. Drieu had been trying to convince Maurras to be less anti-German where he talks about these kinds of influences directly:

    ‘I have always thought that Germany represents a force for movement in Europe… Here I distinguish myself from Maurras, not because I think differently from him but because I tend to think on another plane. Maurras is a philosopher who wholly submits to political necessity… He never positions himself knowingly at the point of view of a wholly disinterested and objective philosophy of history. He will never consent, for example, to speak of violence as a necessity in itself; he will only ever speak of violence as an evil against which we must defend ourselves…

    Whereas I, following Nietzsche, Hegel and Schopenhauer, I return to a more primitive conception where evil is at the heart of life itself, mingled with good by some enigmatic connection… From my point of view Germany appears today as a necessary evil in Europe, the initiating movement, always renewing the experience of force without which the West drifts into the stupidity of a overly facile and optimistic rationalism, that of our intellectuals of the 18th century or our teachers, or our freemasons.’

    I thought about including it somewhere in the introduction but didn't find a place to use it in the end.

    Two of the novels he wrote during the war definitely have more pagan and spiritual elements (there is a lot of discussion of the Upanishads in one of them, it is part of the internal monologue of the main character), and in his diaries and final texts you can see he is thinking more about this.


    Humanity is just as much here as there, in its past as in its present. The future may turn out to be richer in the qualities of the past than the present.
     
    This is quite an important idea. Drieu raises it a few times, I think there is a part towards the end of the Notes... where it reappears. I've noticed that in recent studies of fascism they place a lot of emphasis on the idea of palingenesis, the idea of rebirth, and aspects of the past being used as a source of inspiration for the content of the future. This is how the idea of fascism as a form of 'reactionary modernism' seems to have come about. Drieu is a good example of it.

    I came across an interesting book recently that looks at the influence of Georges Sorel on French fascism, especially in the field of art and aesthetics. Sorel and some of his followers came from radical syndicalism originally, so the far-left, but were promoting a revolution against Progress and democracy in order to create a society of 'warriors and producers'.

    Sorel had extended his theory of political myth by creating an anti-rational, anti-Enlightenment concept of the sublime which looked to various influences (Classical Greece, some aspects of Christianity, regionalism and primitivism as well as 'heroic labour'). It looks like this was influential on Drieu, Sorel and his followers like Berth were kind of thought leaders in the anti-decadence movement when Drieu was at university studying politics.

    I think this may explain some of Drieu's interpretations and choices in the literary and cultural sections, it might be an interesting topic to go into.

    Replies: @LatW

  932. @Coconuts
    @Dmitry


    It would interesting, if the Puritans have been more popular with nerdy, intellectual people in England, before they were persecuted.
     
    It seems to be true, both with Calvinism and Jansenism, the Catholic Calvinism-lite variant that appeared in France in the mid-17th century.

    An interesting thing is where the attraction of these harsh theologies (i.e. TULIP) lay for these more educated social groups. Nowadays the same time of people will probably find Orthodox theology more appealing, which stands at the opposite end of the Christian spectrum.

    Many Huguenots occupied NCO and junior officer ranks in the French army before 1685, when Louis XIV started to expel them they joined the Dutch and English armies where they were useful to William in the 9 Years War and in Ireland.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Dutch the opposite is the case which makes it interesting.

    I don’t know about the topic. I would guess modern Dutch people would be more related to populations of the regions of England, which are generally higher socioeconomic level today? The earliest settlement zone of the Dutch/English common ancestors was South England.

    Then in the 5-7th century, larger modern area of Netherlands were settled by Angles’ and Saxons’ populations.

    who came to protect the English middle classes (it’s often described in this way).

    In the caste-system of England, even in the 20th century, a lot of the “brahmin families” were still descended from some medieval Norman mafia clans.

    Normans were mainly interested in mafia things and didn’t have a strong culture identity, so they almost dissolved into Ireland or Italy.

    In England, their ancestors still were continuing as large part of the elite for almost one thousand years.

    Ancestors of Oswald Mosley, politician who was supporter of Mussolini and Hitler in the 1930s, have this name, “Ernald de Mosley (fl. 12th century), Lord of the Manor of Moseley, Staffordshire, during the reign of King John.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

    Wife of Oswald Mosley, who was a supporter of Trotsky in the 1930s, was called “Curzon” from the village of Courson in Normandy, France.

    Some descendant Normans live in their ancestors’ fortified mafia house for 900 years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazlewood_Castle

    Nowadays the same time of people will probably find Orthodox

    Those middle class demographics today don’t usually go to religions from a different historical epoch, which already died 2-3 centuries ago for educated people. But, maybe middle class people aren’t completely different today.

    For urban middle class, crossfit, keto-genic diets, marathon running. Probably, today Calvin’s life style recommendation will seem moderate, when we could evaluation them in relation to some of the middle class peoples’ fashions.

    Huguenots occupied NCO and junior officer ranks in the French army before 1685, when Louis XIV started to expel them they joined the Dutch and English armies where they were useful to William in the 9 Years War and in Ireland

    I was reading maybe the same article. https://ugp.rug.nl/groniek/article/download/30221/27521/36048

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Dmitry


    Normans were mainly interested in mafia things and didn’t have a strong culture identity, so they almost dissolved into Ireland or Italy.
     
    Possibly, the fact that they were seeking legitimacy from the Church may have made them a bit different from the Saxons. (Though some were quite violent and rapy.)

    However, I think it is a misconception that they didn't have a strong identity. The Archbishop of Dublin was never a man with a native name, until more modern times.

    At the Battle of Knockdoe in 1504, the leader an Anglo-Norman contingent wanted to engage first, as a matter of ethnic pride. (Book of Howth.). One can find quite a separateness in the writings of Irish and Old English (Normans.). There is one letter from the mid or late 1600s, where a native is basically suggesting that Normans be purged from the Church leadership.

    Normans were favored politically to a large extent, so it was in their interest to keep the identity.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Dmitry

    , @Philip Owen
    @Dmitry

    The modern Netherlands was depopulated during post Roman times. It was repopulated in the Middle Ages by emigration from Flanders. HBD Chick did some research on this.

    Anyway, the North Sea was a connector for all the coastal nations right up to the Hanseatic League.

  933. @QCIC
    @songbird

    I heard about this woman a couple of years ago but did not investigate.

    COVID symptoms can overlap with many other conditions. If the commonly used tests do not work properly then a differential diagnosis may be difficult. If she also had an mRNA vaccine then all bets are off. Those shots seem to be clearly implicated as causing a range of serious problems in many people, while apparently being harmless for many others. Because of the role of the spike protein the vaccine reaction may look like COVID symptoms, creating a very confusing set of symptoms.

    I think there is often a small subset of people who have long-term complications from many relatively benign diseases as well as complications from well tolerated conventional vaccines. This is one reason why conventional medicine is a crap shoot, there is a statistical aspect. Youtube allows many of these idiosyncratic cases to become widely publicized. This is good in that publicity may help the patients reach the rare expert who actually recognizes their problem. On the other hand, it may create a false impression that these rare issues are more common than in the past.

    Replies: @songbird

    IMO, accurate, generalized diagnosis isn’t incentivized enough.

    A lot of diagnosis is personalized and specific – going to the right doctor, which is a time-consuming and expensive process. One goes to the GP and then to specialist and then maybe a second and third specialist. Along the way, one might encounter waste-basket diagnoses – the doctor making something up, like saying it is a virus or longcovid, because he doesn’t know what it is. and then the patient might give up.

    I think there should be a machine option, to test against this pathway. Not only a machine. But maybe some human network harnessing the internet. Incentives for people to share information. Share their story, and be interrogated about it.

    And better technology. I know Elizabeth Holmes was a scammer, but some principles could probably be pursued with the right incentives. Like scent or some multiple antibody test.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Here is the number one problem with the Art of Medical Doctoring as practiced in 2024: no practitioner considers non drug remedies for anything.

    The biggest variable in acid reflux is the force of gravity. If you are horizontal with a full stomach your poor valve is under a huge stress. If you stay vertical when you have food in your stomach there is no stress on your poor valve. This is the zero order phenomenon and it is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    The biggest variable in biological clock regulation is sunlight. If you get some sunlight exposure after waking all your glands get their timers set and if you don't you are begging for trouble. This is the zero order phenomenon. It is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    A lot of what people eat is not food. If you do not eat food your celiac ganglia cannot send the signal to your brain that you are busy working on digesting and you can stop eating now. This is the zero order phenomenon. It is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    Every body needs vigorous exercise and ample rest and healthy food. Much of modern disease is a lack of basic needs. Many doctors are not taking care of their own bodies. I do not remember the face or the name of the guy the last time I had to go to the doctor. I do remember that he was fat. He was only 40 years old and there is no chance he could do a pull up.

    Replies: @QCIC, @YetAnotherAnon

  934. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Well, why are you then doling out advice if you don't understand the language, the topic at hand? Par for the course for you and your abilities to hold an intelligent conversation. :-(

    Replies: @QCIC

    Much of my advice stems from looking at the bigger picture which is sorely lacking in some of these dialogs. You should try it.

    My awareness of the big picture leads me to believe there were wise Ukrainians who warned against this mess and were probably driven out or murdered by NeoNazis. I don’t read Ukrainian so I leave it to others to unearth their wisdom. You may find solace in this project.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  935. @A123
    @QCIC


    your inconsistency is with the (((other guys)))
     
    That does not makes any sense. I am 100% consistent with my support for the other guys. Most notably, (((Jesus))) and (((God))).

    The #1 certain test that proves one is a Muslim, or Dhimmi slave, is trying to pit Jews and Christians against each other. You have failed this measure repeatedly. Why do you hate Judeo-Christians like (((Jesus Christ)))?

    No matter how much you push Taqiyya deception for your prophet, the Anti-Christ Muhammad..... It is not going to work. Those of us who believe in (((Jesus Christ))) and (((God))) oppose your IslamoGloboHomo.
    ____

    Sadly, Mr. Hack is mentally ill. He needs psychiatric assistance and most likely significant medication. Alas, there is nothing anyone can do unless he wants help. After Kiev capitulates, perhaps there will be an opportunity?

    Until then all I can do as a Christian is -- Feel pity for him, and offer Forgiveness.


    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Save your cynical forgiveness for yourself kremlinstoogeA123. The type of Christianity that you defend would make the Lord angry and hurry him to cleanse the world of those that support the shedding of innocent civilian blood.


    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.” Matthew 7:15.

    • Agree: Philip Owen
  936. @songbird
    @QCIC

    IMO, accurate, generalized diagnosis isn't incentivized enough.

    A lot of diagnosis is personalized and specific - going to the right doctor, which is a time-consuming and expensive process. One goes to the GP and then to specialist and then maybe a second and third specialist. Along the way, one might encounter waste-basket diagnoses - the doctor making something up, like saying it is a virus or longcovid, because he doesn't know what it is. and then the patient might give up.

    I think there should be a machine option, to test against this pathway. Not only a machine. But maybe some human network harnessing the internet. Incentives for people to share information. Share their story, and be interrogated about it.

    And better technology. I know Elizabeth Holmes was a scammer, but some principles could probably be pursued with the right incentives. Like scent or some multiple antibody test.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Here is the number one problem with the Art of Medical Doctoring as practiced in 2024: no practitioner considers non drug remedies for anything.

    The biggest variable in acid reflux is the force of gravity. If you are horizontal with a full stomach your poor valve is under a huge stress. If you stay vertical when you have food in your stomach there is no stress on your poor valve. This is the zero order phenomenon and it is not in your doctor’s diagnosis tree computer program.

    The biggest variable in biological clock regulation is sunlight. If you get some sunlight exposure after waking all your glands get their timers set and if you don’t you are begging for trouble. This is the zero order phenomenon. It is not in your doctor’s diagnosis tree computer program.

    A lot of what people eat is not food. If you do not eat food your celiac ganglia cannot send the signal to your brain that you are busy working on digesting and you can stop eating now. This is the zero order phenomenon. It is not in your doctor’s diagnosis tree computer program.

    Every body needs vigorous exercise and ample rest and healthy food. Much of modern disease is a lack of basic needs. Many doctors are not taking care of their own bodies. I do not remember the face or the name of the guy the last time I had to go to the doctor. I do remember that he was fat. He was only 40 years old and there is no chance he could do a pull up.

    • Agree: songbird, YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I agree.

    With generally healthy people as you describe I suspect an AI and a pile of tests could do pretty well with many diagnoses of unknown illnesses. The problem would be that the AI becomes gospel and is difficult to refute in cases of error. In the current world you describe, where most people are unhealthy in the first place, I think many diagnoses are very difficult, even for an AI.

    I am not advocating an AI for this purpose, but I can recognize some value.

    +++

    In the USA, I wonder what percentage of meds are prescribed to address side effects of other meds?

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    OTOH there's a 45 year old lady doctor near me just about to start a 500km charity bike ride. She has four kids. She's fit in both senses.

    If all lady doctors had 4 kids the UK would be a much better place. Over half of UK medical students are now female, so the medical profession is going female rapidly.

    Her 4 intelligent children are IMHO as great a contribution to Britain as her doctoring is.

    Whereas most women in the UK with 4 kids are either Muslim or the kids have three different fathers...

  937. Heard that if you sequence Icelanders successively, with each addition, the amount of archaic DNA barely budges because they are so alike.

    But with Indians, it is like a rocket taking off because of all the genetic diversity.

    If we sequenced all Indians, what could we shake out if it? Is it a myth that we could not reconstruct a full Neanderthal or Denisovan by adding up all the genes in humans (i.e. Indians)?

    Am joking a bit, as I know there are some desert zones in the genome for archiac DNA, like very little in the X chromosome and four smaller zones of other chromosomes. But maybe the totals would still be much bigger than anyone realizes.

  938. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    The topmost criterion could be vaccine injury awareness. People who have been injured by vaccines, or who have loved ones, relations, close friends with experience of vaccine injury are in one class. The fortunate people who have not been so touched are in another. I would be very interested in accurate numbers and the data are skunked. Unz says 20-30% of the population are anti-vax crackpots and the CDC says 90% of the people are vaccinated.

    Since everybody's numbers are made up I can claim the 20-30 is way too low and the 90 is way too high. I am personally aware of humans who have been injured by vaccines. All they can do for now is avoid more vaccines. If the cops come to their door with a hypodermic needle and a court order there might be a gunfight.

    Do you guys have guns in Slovakia?

    Replies: @QCIC

    At the time of COVID I worked for an East Coast company with about 120 employees, many with college engineering degrees (~ 50%). I was the only one willing to be let go when the company imposed a government contractor vaccine mandate. I believe there were two or three other skeptics who ultimately decided to get the vax. Prior to COVID I was not an arch anti-vaxxer, though I was intrigued by the vaccine-autism link and similar discussions. I am not vocal about it, but when asked I explain the mRNA shots are not adequately tested and I already had COVID. I suspect the other 146 employees think I’m crazy. Anecdotally I am aware of numerous people in this cohort with some moderate vaccine reaction (one to two days off work, enough to talk about) and one I suspect with a very serious reaction. I know of about five people in the group with relatives hospitalized with COVID and maybe another five with elderly relatives who died from some neglect resulting from the mandated isolation. There were probably more people in both categories.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    That is great data.

    Not complete though. To me the most interesting number would be how many had firsthand experience with significant vaccine injuries, like Robert Kennedy's injury, and felt terrorized into playing Russian roulette with the shot because they could not imagine losing their paycheck. Very unlikely that number is zero in my (biased) view.

    I looked at Unz's Physical Review paper. In the acknowledgements part he name drops Stephen Hawking and Sydney Coleman. For those who do not know, Coleman was only very very very slightly less illustrious than Hawking.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/UnzRonK-1984.pdf

    If you watch all the way to end of the Swiatek Giorgi match,

    A. it was warm in Miami in the middle of the afternoon and the hotties get very sweaty;
    B. Giorgi did not look too gracious about her ass whipped 6-1, 6-1 by the younger and hotter number one in the world.

    Replies: @QCIC

  939. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Here is the number one problem with the Art of Medical Doctoring as practiced in 2024: no practitioner considers non drug remedies for anything.

    The biggest variable in acid reflux is the force of gravity. If you are horizontal with a full stomach your poor valve is under a huge stress. If you stay vertical when you have food in your stomach there is no stress on your poor valve. This is the zero order phenomenon and it is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    The biggest variable in biological clock regulation is sunlight. If you get some sunlight exposure after waking all your glands get their timers set and if you don't you are begging for trouble. This is the zero order phenomenon. It is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    A lot of what people eat is not food. If you do not eat food your celiac ganglia cannot send the signal to your brain that you are busy working on digesting and you can stop eating now. This is the zero order phenomenon. It is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    Every body needs vigorous exercise and ample rest and healthy food. Much of modern disease is a lack of basic needs. Many doctors are not taking care of their own bodies. I do not remember the face or the name of the guy the last time I had to go to the doctor. I do remember that he was fat. He was only 40 years old and there is no chance he could do a pull up.

    Replies: @QCIC, @YetAnotherAnon

    I agree.

    With generally healthy people as you describe I suspect an AI and a pile of tests could do pretty well with many diagnoses of unknown illnesses. The problem would be that the AI becomes gospel and is difficult to refute in cases of error. In the current world you describe, where most people are unhealthy in the first place, I think many diagnoses are very difficult, even for an AI.

    I am not advocating an AI for this purpose, but I can recognize some value.

    +++

    In the USA, I wonder what percentage of meds are prescribed to address side effects of other meds?

  940. LatW says:
    @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    Frankly, I doubt that – there was still a strong core Slavic population present in the 1970s and 1980s, who would have not liked to live around those from Muslim republics.
     
    Are you sure about that? Their Jewish-owned media could warm them up to this idea, no? And it would be politically difficult for a liberal democratic Russian government to impose internal migration restrictions like both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks did.

    A lot of white people in the Northern US didn't like the fact that African-Americans from the Southern US were moving into their states and cities, and tried various measures such as restrictive covenants to keep them out of their own neighborhoods (which were eventually unanimously struck down as unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court in 1948), but there was no constitutional mechanism for the US to restrict the internal migration of African-Americans from the Southern US to other parts of the US short of a new US constitutional amendment, which was (and still is) almost impossible to pass and ratify and thus people didn't actually bother with this.


    You’re assuming that the population of a free post-Tsarist Russia would degenerate in the same way the West has degenerated, but this is not a given.
     
    Even formerly heavily Catholic Ireland has degenerated in spite of it being a former colonial victim rather than a former colonial power. Would Russia really be different?

    Also, the Slavs are more rooted in their homeland than the Americans in the New world (even if those used to be largely Finnic populations that were Slavicized, but that just adds to the point since they had lived there for millennia, not just a few hundred years, their rootedness would help preserve them from outside influence).
     
    Russia's presence in Siberia and the Far East is only a couple of centuries long or less. Siberia became Russian in the 1600s, the Russian Far East in the 1800s.

    And Western Europeans have also invited a lot of non-Europeans into their own countries even though Western Europeans have lived in their own countries for an extremely long period of time.


    Those are just your wet dreams – nothing beautiful about it at all. The reality is a bit different. Even if some of this Putin’s multi-cultural project seems to have worked (most Central Asians seem to be rather peaceful and somewhat decent workers from which this new RusFed has benefited).
     
    Do you view Latin Americans and Asians in the US as beautiful?

    I vaguely remember my Slavic compatriots from the 1980s and, while they were somewhat less “nationalist” in the contemporary sense of the word (ethno nationalism was not allowed), they were also more spiritually or mentally robust and had more cultural (racial) cohesion. They would’ve very likely been able to keep the non-Slavic populations at bay. Those groups were also smaller in their numbers and mostly stayed in their respective lands. The Slavic population was mentally and culturally dominant. Of course, there were some minor spats and some ethnic nuances (e.g., everyone was aware that the Caucasians are different), but there was nothing like what they have now in RusFed when Caucasians often dominate over Slavs.
     
    I suspect that in a liberal, democratic, and free Russia, Central Asians and others would have went to where the good jobs were. This would primarily be in the East Slavic heartland of Russia rather than in Central Asia, at least until the late 20th century might turn Central Asia into Russia's version of the Sun Belt--no?

    It's similar to how the good jobs in the US were mostly outside of the Southern US and once mass immigration to the US mostly stopped in the 1910s due to WWI and later severe immigration restrictions, Northern businesses, companies, and industries began actively courting cheap black labor from the Southern US.


    Today’s Russians seem to be more nationalistic (intolerant), but they have also become way, way more hedonistic, materialistic, maybe practice more open Orthodoxy, but simultaneously have less cultural cohesion, I feel they’re softer inside and are not as robust anymore. They are in a dilemma because they have included all those nationalities in the larger state – so technically they are allowed to live in Moscow as well, even if some of them barely speak Russian.
     
    Russian Orthodoxy nowadays I suspect is largely fake other than among the elderly and Russian diaspora, no?

    And technically speaking, a non-Bolshevik Russia would have likely kept Central Asia up to the present-day. It would have all been a part of one great big country in the form of Greater Russia.


    Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).

     

    Yep, which indicates that radical Islam is a very serious problem in general, not just limited to Western Muslims or to Muslims back in their own home countries.

    And then on top of that, they start an neo-colonial, revanchist, imperialist war.. which will inevitably compromise the country’s borders and flood the country with semi-automatic weapons. The Russians fighting in Ukraine literally sell their weapons on the border. This is just another sign of the overall chaotization that is bound to begin now. The war has indeed come back home. Where have seen this before…

     

    The war in Ukraine really is a huge tragedy. :( No doubt about that. Putin, like Hitler in 1941, expected a quick victory over a rotten opponent and got something entirely different and much bloodier, including for his own side.

    Replies: @LatW

    Are you sure about that? Their Jewish-owned media could warm them up to this idea, no?

    This is highly speculative. You assume it would’ve been some Weimar republic, when it just as well could’ve turned into a more or less mild autocracy similar to the 1930s wave in Europe. You like to speak as if the Jews are omnipotent. There was an awareness of Jewishness (even before 1991). You have no idea to what extent it would have been accepted and how deep they would be allowed to go. Jews often have to play along with the majority at least to some extent (in that region).

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    Maybe your dad didn’t want to (I don’t really blame him). Some of those others who tried ended up having crazy biographies.

    And it would be politically difficult for a liberal democratic Russian government to impose internal migration restrictions like both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks did.

    Why do you assume it would be a “liberal democracy”? In Russia, haha? When even in the rest of Europe there wasn’t? Or in those places where there was, it was still conservative? You are quite a dreamer.

    A lot of white people in the Northern US didn’t like the fact that African-Americans from the Southern US were moving into their states and cities

    There are still parts of the US where blacks do not live together with Whites. There is self-segregation. This issue is touchy and somewhat specific to America, so I’m not sure this is a good comparison to Russia.

    Even formerly heavily Catholic Ireland has degenerated in spite of it being a former colonial victim rather than a former colonial power. Would Russia really be different?

    This is very recent, same as in Finland. Finland was completely pure until very recently. There is something else going on, possibly economic. With a solid Slavic dominance, the way that was still there in the 1980s, those lands would have stayed predominantly Slavic. They would have only had to secure themselves economically to maintain the birth rate. Birth rate depended on confidence in the future – that could’ve been arranged without immigrants.

    Russia’s presence in Siberia and the Far East is only a couple of centuries long or less. Siberia became Russian in the 1600s, the Russian Far East in the 1800s.

    Those are colonized lands (and remain colonies still to this day, as they are being heavily extracted). I was talking about the Slavic (and Finnic) homelands.

    And Western Europeans have also invited a lot of non-Europeans into their own countries even though Western Europeans have lived in their own countries for an extremely long period of time.

    The assimilation in Western Europe seems slower than in America. I think that America also accepts more people from Asia than W.Europe (such as Chinese and Indians).

    Do you view Latin Americans and Asians in the US as beautiful?

    I wasn’t talking about the actual people not being beautiful, but your delusional picture of a race mixed society as something being by default beautiful. Yes, racial harmony might be beautiful, but so is homogeneity and a natural existence of a tribe and a society. Do I view individual people from those groups you mention as beautiful? I love people so I do see beauty in them internal and on the outside, you have to love the human being, and that’s where the beauty lies. Same as you love an older person or a child because you see the intrinsic beauty in them. Every human being was put on this planet by Nature in the form that they come in. You love and accept and appreciate what has been laid out by Nature. But if you’re asking purely based on a personal sense of aesthetics, then I consider the people I grew up with as more beautiful. Beauty is universal though. Every group has it to some extent.

    I find Mayan women interesting based purely on their “ancient” features, even if I tower over them, they do have good, strong hair. Who am I to judge them? And I find certain things that Asian people do beautiful, sometimes their demeanor, and even some individuals. Mayans lived closer to this continent than Europeans, and Samoans do, too. It doesn’t mean they are fully entitled to it, as they still have their own ancestral lands. Some Samoans can be rather beautiful, some men. Many Native Americans I find beautiful (and even graceful sometimes).

    So? That doesn’t mean you have to promote artificially mixed societies.

    I suspect that in a liberal, democratic, and free Russia, Central Asians and others would have went to where the good jobs were.

    Well, that’s what they have now. Most of them are good workers and are peaceful, however, with the scale of immigration and the sheer numbers which are bigger than we even know – not everything will be ideal. If there is conflict or a crisis, these differences will be exacerbated. There have always been ethnic mafias in Russia. Caucasian groups are quite virile, they would be intimidating for someone like yourself – no offense, since they are Muslim on top of it.

    Above all – it is somewhat undemocratic, because nobody asks the populace if this is ok. And they’re going to try to pull the same thing in the rest of Eastern Europe. Without a democratic mandate (read: against the will of the majority). You keep posing as some big democrat and liberal – how is this democratic?

    That said, I’d say things in America seem to be worse than in RusFed. In RusFed, these nationalities seem to be arriving from the former colonies that are relatively near by and where there has been some prior cultural exchange. But in America the new arrivals are Somalis, and others from very distant cultures that have no connection to the US main culture at all.

    Russian Orthodoxy nowadays I suspect is largely fake other than among the elderly and Russian diaspora, no?

    You can’t look into a person’s heart. A lot of it is obviously fake, but many of them are real.

    Religion is a private matter that shouldn’t be flaunted left and right as is often done these days. Much less used for political purposes. (Unless it is Euro paganism, hehe).

    And technically speaking, a non-Bolshevik Russia would have likely kept Central Asia up to the present-day. It would have all been a part of one great big country in the form of Greater Russia.

    You’re assuming that only the Slavs would secularize in such a large common economic project and not Central Asians. Yea, right, the Central Asians would arrive into Slavic economies and stay traditional forever? The ones who arrive are often atomized.

    Yep, which indicates that radical Islam is a very serious problem in general, not just limited to Western Muslims or to Muslims back in their own home countries.

    On an ideological level, radical Islam has quite a few pluses but it should stay in the home countries. When they try to sit on two chairs by taking up the Euro space and maintaining their religion which is contemptuous of Europe, then that’s a problem.

    The war in Ukraine really is a huge tragedy.

    It is the worst thing ever, but not only that – it might turn into something unexpected (for those who masterminded it). It is far from over.

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    • Replies: @LatW
    @LatW

    Don't want to objectify but very beautiful...

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/40/09/b6/4009b6d59c2f2e03433fd601b0b6cbf8.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/f7/75/e0f7752554ec6d381e0ec4a522cdca23.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/6b/2d/6f6b2d7b64239ec0274eaa7ddcbb5d6b.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/4f/64/234f6499889ba412f2947d9858c1fcd7.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/44/a8/dd44a81657a0c9b393aa9cd8caeba5a5.jpg

    Really like this one...

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/ba/5f/49ba5f06bfda533f7e81b44d7105fb60.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    This is highly speculative. You assume it would’ve been some Weimar republic, when it just as well could’ve turned into a more or less mild autocracy similar to the 1930s wave in Europe. You like to speak as if the Jews are omnipotent. There was an awareness of Jewishness (even before 1991). You have no idea to what extent it would have been accepted and how deep they would be allowed to go. Jews often have to play along with the majority at least to some extent (in that region).

     

    Russia could have certainly eventually become a right-wing dictatorship, but it could have also been followed by eventual liberalization as in Spain, Portugal, Latin America, et cetera.


    Maybe your dad didn’t want to (I don’t really blame him). Some of those others who tried ended up having crazy biographies.

     

    My parents were afraid of another, more successful coup attempt in the USSR/Russia at some future point in time after the unsuccessful August 1991 coup attempt. It was this attempt that sealed their decision to emigrate from Russia. They also feared an ex-USSR Yugoslavia situation sooner or later, and they were right about this, slightly over 30 years later.

    Why do you assume it would be a “liberal democracy”? In Russia, haha? When even in the rest of Europe there wasn’t? Or in those places where there was, it was still conservative? You are quite a dreamer.
     
    It would have likely become a liberal democracy once liberalization would have eventually occurred (if there would have been a right-wing dictatorship in the meantime). Are Spain, Portugal, and some Latin American countries (not El Salvador, though!) not liberal democracies today?

    There are still parts of the US where blacks do not live together with Whites. There is self-segregation. This issue is touchy and somewhat specific to America, so I’m not sure this is a good comparison to Russia.
     
    Well, Yeah, until 1948 (when the US Supreme Court unanimously struck them down as unconstitutional), racially restrictive housing covenants were a huge thing in the US, including in the Northern US. After 1948, blacks could move into white neighborhoods, but then after the race riots of the 1960s, whites fled from these neighborhoods en masse into the suburbs, followed by middle-class blacks fleeing from these neighborhoods into the suburbs, thus leaving primarily the ghetto blacks in these neighborhoods, which explains why exactly they are so dumpy today.

    But my overall point here is that even before 1948, whites could only keep blacks out of certain neighborhoods, not out of entire cities, let alone out of entire US states. Internal freedom of movement was a respected constitutional right for all US citizens even back then, even for all black US citizens.

    Nowadays in the US there is no law or even any private agreements prohibiting people from certain races from living in certain neighborhoods, but whites and others generally don't want to live next to ghetto blacks and thus either flee en masse if their neighborhood becomes too ghetto or else use less questionable means, such as preventing convicted felons from moving into their neighborhoods, to keep their neighborhoods safe.


    This is very recent, same as in Finland. Finland was completely pure until very recently. There is something else going on, possibly economic. With a solid Slavic dominance, the way that was still there in the 1980s, those lands would have stayed predominantly Slavic. They would have only had to secure themselves economically to maintain the birth rate. Birth rate depended on confidence in the future – that could’ve been arranged without immigrants.

     

    What would you see Russia's total fertility rate as being in this scenario? I mean for Slavs only (not including Muslims).

    Those are colonized lands (and remain colonies still to this day, as they are being heavily extracted). I was talking about the Slavic (and Finnic) homelands.

     

    Fair enough, I suppose.

    The assimilation in Western Europe seems slower than in America. I think that America also accepts more people from Asia than W.Europe (such as Chinese and Indians).

     

    Yes, with Western Europe, the issue is that Muslims are just more difficult to assimilate in general, especially working-class Muslims:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/02/fiscal-impact-of-immigrants-by-country-of-origin/


    I wasn’t talking about the actual people not being beautiful, but your delusional picture of a race mixed society as something being by default beautiful. Yes, racial harmony might be beautiful, but so is homogeneity and a natural existence of a tribe and a society. Do I view individual people from those groups you mention as beautiful? I love people so I do see beauty in them internal and on the outside, you have to love the human being, and that’s where the beauty lies. Same as you love an older person or a child because you see the intrinsic beauty in them. Every human being was put on this planet by Nature in the form that they come in. You love and accept and appreciate what has been laid out by Nature. But if you’re asking purely based on a personal sense of aesthetics, then I consider the people I grew up with as more beautiful. Beauty is universal though. Every group has it to some extent.

    I find Mayan women interesting based purely on their “ancient” features, even if I tower over them, they do have good, strong hair. Who am I to judge them? And I find certain things that Asian people do beautiful, sometimes their demeanor, and even some individuals. Mayans lived closer to this continent than Europeans, and Samoans do, too. It doesn’t mean they are fully entitled to it, as they still have their own ancestral lands. Some Samoans can be rather beautiful, some men. Many Native Americans I find beautiful (and even graceful sometimes).

    So? That doesn’t mean you have to promote artificially mixed societies.
     

    Haven't artificially mixed societies existed for a long time by now, though? Look at the Roman Empire, for instance. It involved ruling over many different peoples. Or would you say that this was different since people back then generally did not travel outside of their regions of birth?

    Anyway, whether a society should be mixed or not should depend on the preferences of its own people. Though even with a mixed society, pan-enclavism is still possible:

    https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism


    Well, that’s what they have now. Most of them are good workers and are peaceful, however, with the scale of immigration and the sheer numbers which are bigger than we even know – not everything will be ideal. If there is conflict or a crisis, these differences will be exacerbated. There have always been ethnic mafias in Russia. Caucasian groups are quite virile, they would be intimidating for someone like yourself – no offense, since they are Muslim on top of it.
     
    Well, the Georgian and Armenian mafias aren't Muslim. But why exactly should mobsters be given free rein to operate in their adoptive countries instead of having them be deported?

    Above all – it is somewhat undemocratic, because nobody asks the populace if this is ok. And they’re going to try to pull the same thing in the rest of Eastern Europe. Without a democratic mandate (read: against the will of the majority). You keep posing as some big democrat and liberal – how is this democratic?
     
    By all means, if you want to have the people vote on immigration, be my guest.

    That said, though, public trends in the US have been shifting in a more and more pro-immigration direction over the last 30 years, only with a slight decline over the last couple of years due to the unusually high immigration levels that we are currently getting:

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1660/immigration.aspx

    As the older generations will pass away and the younger generations will replace them, the US should become more and more pro-immigration. But I'm much less sure about Europe.


    That said, I’d say things in America seem to be worse than in RusFed. In RusFed, these nationalities seem to be arriving from the former colonies that are relatively near by and where there has been some prior cultural exchange. But in America the new arrivals are Somalis, and others from very distant cultures that have no connection to the US main culture at all.
     
    A lot of the US's arrivals are Latin Americans and Asians, who are both easier to assimilate. But with Somalis, Yeah, honestly I would be more wary of accepting them, unless of course they are passionately pro-American like this Somali guy is:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30537090
    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/10/618263088/somali-refugee-abdi-nor-iftin-i-am-here-to-make-america-great
    https://time.com/5316584/world-refugee-day-visa-lottery-donald-trump-immigration/

    I'd gladly welcome more Somalis like him! (Honestly, I'd be happy to have Israel welcome more Africans like him as well just so long as they will sincerely convert to Judaism, which is likely a non-starter for Muslim Africans but could be more viable for Christian Africans.)


    You can’t look into a person’s heart. A lot of it is obviously fake, but many of them are real.

    Religion is a private matter that shouldn’t be flaunted left and right as is often done these days. Much less used for political purposes. (Unless it is Euro paganism, hehe).
     

    Thanks. And Yes, Euro pagans and Wiccans for the win! ;)

    You’re assuming that only the Slavs would secularize in such a large common economic project and not Central Asians. Yea, right, the Central Asians would arrive into Slavic economies and stay traditional forever? The ones who arrive are often atomized.

     

    Where exactly did I ever say that the Central Asians who would have moved to Russia's East Slavic heartland would not have secularized?

    On an ideological level, radical Islam has quite a few pluses but it should stay in the home countries. When they try to sit on two chairs by taking up the Euro space and maintaining their religion which is contemptuous of Europe, then that’s a problem.

     

    Agreed. I've heard a statement that Muslims mostly care about minority rights when they themselves are minorities. When they themselves are majorities, they often care much less for minority rights.

    It is the worst thing ever, but not only that – it might turn into something unexpected (for those who masterminded it). It is far from over.

     

    A successful color revolution in Russia itself? A Moscow Maidan? If so, then this would certainly be a huge victory for both the West and the Russian people themselves.
  941. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Are you sure about that? Their Jewish-owned media could warm them up to this idea, no?
     
    This is highly speculative. You assume it would've been some Weimar republic, when it just as well could've turned into a more or less mild autocracy similar to the 1930s wave in Europe. You like to speak as if the Jews are omnipotent. There was an awareness of Jewishness (even before 1991). You have no idea to what extent it would have been accepted and how deep they would be allowed to go. Jews often have to play along with the majority at least to some extent (in that region).


    Maybe your dad didn't want to (I don't really blame him). Some of those others who tried ended up having crazy biographies.

    And it would be politically difficult for a liberal democratic Russian government to impose internal migration restrictions like both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks did.
     
    Why do you assume it would be a "liberal democracy"? In Russia, haha? When even in the rest of Europe there wasn't? Or in those places where there was, it was still conservative? You are quite a dreamer.

    A lot of white people in the Northern US didn’t like the fact that African-Americans from the Southern US were moving into their states and cities
     
    There are still parts of the US where blacks do not live together with Whites. There is self-segregation. This issue is touchy and somewhat specific to America, so I'm not sure this is a good comparison to Russia.

    Even formerly heavily Catholic Ireland has degenerated in spite of it being a former colonial victim rather than a former colonial power. Would Russia really be different?
     
    This is very recent, same as in Finland. Finland was completely pure until very recently. There is something else going on, possibly economic. With a solid Slavic dominance, the way that was still there in the 1980s, those lands would have stayed predominantly Slavic. They would have only had to secure themselves economically to maintain the birth rate. Birth rate depended on confidence in the future - that could've been arranged without immigrants.

    Russia’s presence in Siberia and the Far East is only a couple of centuries long or less. Siberia became Russian in the 1600s, the Russian Far East in the 1800s.
     
    Those are colonized lands (and remain colonies still to this day, as they are being heavily extracted). I was talking about the Slavic (and Finnic) homelands.

    And Western Europeans have also invited a lot of non-Europeans into their own countries even though Western Europeans have lived in their own countries for an extremely long period of time.

     

    The assimilation in Western Europe seems slower than in America. I think that America also accepts more people from Asia than W.Europe (such as Chinese and Indians).


    Do you view Latin Americans and Asians in the US as beautiful?
     
    I wasn't talking about the actual people not being beautiful, but your delusional picture of a race mixed society as something being by default beautiful. Yes, racial harmony might be beautiful, but so is homogeneity and a natural existence of a tribe and a society. Do I view individual people from those groups you mention as beautiful? I love people so I do see beauty in them internal and on the outside, you have to love the human being, and that's where the beauty lies. Same as you love an older person or a child because you see the intrinsic beauty in them. Every human being was put on this planet by Nature in the form that they come in. You love and accept and appreciate what has been laid out by Nature. But if you're asking purely based on a personal sense of aesthetics, then I consider the people I grew up with as more beautiful. Beauty is universal though. Every group has it to some extent.

    I find Mayan women interesting based purely on their "ancient" features, even if I tower over them, they do have good, strong hair. Who am I to judge them? And I find certain things that Asian people do beautiful, sometimes their demeanor, and even some individuals. Mayans lived closer to this continent than Europeans, and Samoans do, too. It doesn't mean they are fully entitled to it, as they still have their own ancestral lands. Some Samoans can be rather beautiful, some men. Many Native Americans I find beautiful (and even graceful sometimes).

    So? That doesn't mean you have to promote artificially mixed societies.

    I suspect that in a liberal, democratic, and free Russia, Central Asians and others would have went to where the good jobs were.
     
    Well, that's what they have now. Most of them are good workers and are peaceful, however, with the scale of immigration and the sheer numbers which are bigger than we even know - not everything will be ideal. If there is conflict or a crisis, these differences will be exacerbated. There have always been ethnic mafias in Russia. Caucasian groups are quite virile, they would be intimidating for someone like yourself - no offense, since they are Muslim on top of it.

    Above all - it is somewhat undemocratic, because nobody asks the populace if this is ok. And they're going to try to pull the same thing in the rest of Eastern Europe. Without a democratic mandate (read: against the will of the majority). You keep posing as some big democrat and liberal - how is this democratic?

    That said, I'd say things in America seem to be worse than in RusFed. In RusFed, these nationalities seem to be arriving from the former colonies that are relatively near by and where there has been some prior cultural exchange. But in America the new arrivals are Somalis, and others from very distant cultures that have no connection to the US main culture at all.

    Russian Orthodoxy nowadays I suspect is largely fake other than among the elderly and Russian diaspora, no?
     
    You can't look into a person's heart. A lot of it is obviously fake, but many of them are real.

    Religion is a private matter that shouldn't be flaunted left and right as is often done these days. Much less used for political purposes. (Unless it is Euro paganism, hehe).

    And technically speaking, a non-Bolshevik Russia would have likely kept Central Asia up to the present-day. It would have all been a part of one great big country in the form of Greater Russia.

     

    You're assuming that only the Slavs would secularize in such a large common economic project and not Central Asians. Yea, right, the Central Asians would arrive into Slavic economies and stay traditional forever? The ones who arrive are often atomized.

    Yep, which indicates that radical Islam is a very serious problem in general, not just limited to Western Muslims or to Muslims back in their own home countries.
     
    On an ideological level, radical Islam has quite a few pluses but it should stay in the home countries. When they try to sit on two chairs by taking up the Euro space and maintaining their religion which is contemptuous of Europe, then that's a problem.

    The war in Ukraine really is a huge tragedy.
     
    It is the worst thing ever, but not only that - it might turn into something unexpected (for those who masterminded it). It is far from over.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ

    Don’t want to objectify but very beautiful…

    [MORE]


    Really like this one…

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but aren't Northern Indians less exotic-looking? Or is it admixture?

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KB6HIRUUKNM/V7iYACAlr6I/AAAAAAABEMQ/T5z-S9AdMuAn_vyM5kUJBps3RCBioNRtgCLcB/s1600/ScreenShot7512.jpg

  942. What looks like a Polynesian woman… super feminine.

    Māori women

    https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/trevanion-and-dean/catalogue-id-trevan10013/lot-3445e1db-5db0-4bfd-b335-a5a6012873c2

    North American girl (with amazing eye lashes… those must be real!).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    These ladies are past age of consent you creep.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBTKlvoNPGg

    Replies: @LatW

  943. @LatW
    What looks like a Polynesian woman... super feminine.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/8c/b4/5c8cb4adc64e2a72e40db5cfe4f3ba77.jpg

    Māori women

    https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/trevanion-and-dean/catalogue-id-trevan10013/lot-3445e1db-5db0-4bfd-b335-a5a6012873c2

    North American girl (with amazing eye lashes... those must be real!).

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/62/12/c262122d0a211c8b437121f5f17d7fbc.jpg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    These ladies are past age of consent you creep.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    The ones I posted are all ripe women, even if very young, besides I posted them for the sake of beauty not some "age of consent" considerations (was asked if I liked ethnic people). So don't see anything "creepy" here whatsoever (no need to be a jerk but I guess you can't help yourself).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  944. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    These ladies are past age of consent you creep.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBTKlvoNPGg

    Replies: @LatW

    The ones I posted are all ripe women, even if very young, besides I posted them for the sake of beauty not some “age of consent” considerations (was asked if I liked ethnic people). So don’t see anything “creepy” here whatsoever (no need to be a jerk but I guess you can’t help yourself).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/Bart_Simpson_200px.png

    WHERE'S YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR MAN?

  945. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    The ones I posted are all ripe women, even if very young, besides I posted them for the sake of beauty not some "age of consent" considerations (was asked if I liked ethnic people). So don't see anything "creepy" here whatsoever (no need to be a jerk but I guess you can't help yourself).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    WHERE’S YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR MAN?

  946. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    At the time of COVID I worked for an East Coast company with about 120 employees, many with college engineering degrees (~ 50%). I was the only one willing to be let go when the company imposed a government contractor vaccine mandate. I believe there were two or three other skeptics who ultimately decided to get the vax. Prior to COVID I was not an arch anti-vaxxer, though I was intrigued by the vaccine-autism link and similar discussions. I am not vocal about it, but when asked I explain the mRNA shots are not adequately tested and I already had COVID. I suspect the other 146 employees think I'm crazy. Anecdotally I am aware of numerous people in this cohort with some moderate vaccine reaction (one to two days off work, enough to talk about) and one I suspect with a very serious reaction. I know of about five people in the group with relatives hospitalized with COVID and maybe another five with elderly relatives who died from some neglect resulting from the mandated isolation. There were probably more people in both categories.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    That is great data.

    Not complete though. To me the most interesting number would be how many had firsthand experience with significant vaccine injuries, like Robert Kennedy’s injury, and felt terrorized into playing Russian roulette with the shot because they could not imagine losing their paycheck. Very unlikely that number is zero in my (biased) view.

    I looked at Unz’s Physical Review paper. In the acknowledgements part he name drops Stephen Hawking and Sydney Coleman. For those who do not know, Coleman was only very very very slightly less illustrious than Hawking.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/UnzRonK-1984.pdf

    If you watch all the way to end of the Swiatek Giorgi match,

    A. it was warm in Miami in the middle of the afternoon and the hotties get very sweaty;
    B. Giorgi did not look too gracious about her ass whipped 6-1, 6-1 by the younger and hotter number one in the world.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    There are many questions about psychological pressure and vaccines. The number I listed for coworkers who think I'm crazy on this topic was a typo, it should be only 116! The point of my anecdotal summary is that in highly educated areas of the East coast I believe the number of intelligent vaccine skeptics is very low. The media these people interact with toes the pharma-government line entirely and is airtight against useful information leaking in from more organic sources such as Unz. Any alternative media these people consume apparently did not engage with the obvious and important questions related to COVID and the mRNA shots.

    Thanks for linking Ron's old paper. It is a reminder of how the attempts to quantize gravity and unify everything combined with skeletons in the closet like the cosmological constant led to the chaos in theoretical physics leading to whatever crazy ideas we have nowadays. I think this phase was quite a breakthrough in the sense that the priests were defrocked and people can again simply say, "Hay, we really have no idea. Let's think about it!"

  947. @A123
    @sudden death

    Bryansk Oblast shares a border with Belarus. So, I am not sure why your histrionic source prematurely jumped to "lying" as the explanation. It is much more likely that only partial facts have widely reached the public.

    There could be slightly garbled reporting about a co-operative effort with both Belarus and Russian security services. They are allies after all.

    Another possibility is, multiple groups of runners. Some tried to transit Belarus to reach the safety promised by Führer Zelensky. While others attempted a more direct route to their anti-Semitic commanders.

    Regardless of the minutiae. It looks bad for Zelensky, enemy of the Jews, and his European IslamoGloboHomo puppet masters.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @sudden death

    Those fugitive terrorists were tracked and detained in the village of Teply exactly near the border with Belarus in different direction from the road which was leading to UA:

    https://t.me/kartografo/1956

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @sudden death

    "in the village of Teply exactly near the border with Belarus in different direction from the road which was leading to UA"

    https://t.me/llordofwar/308856


    "they were apprehended near the settlement Teploe (Тёплое), NOT Teply (Тёплый), which is the one by the Belarusian border. It is about 380th km. of Kyevsky highway.

    From the place where the chase began there was a direct road only to Ukraine, and they had already passed the turn to Bryansk, and subsequently to Gomel, Belarus at that time.

    The pro-🇺🇦 sources deliberately misdirected Western audiences, since the settlement names are very similar in name, but different enough for native Russian/Ukrainian speakers."
     
    Still, I'm sure it's an innocent mistake...

    Replies: @Beckow, @sudden death, @Philip Owen

  948. @Coconuts
    @Dmitry


    I have been living in Netherlands. It’s a kind of sibling country of England in historical cities’ design, atmosphere. After a few months in Netherlands, your brain also understands Dutch people are speaking a kind of ancient dialect of the English language.

    Some things in the city planning can be related. When those cities are constructed, there was maybe the mutual history of England and Netherlands the 17th and 18th century in the development of capitalism and imperialism.
     
    I was in Amsterdam recently and I noticed this, even more recently built housing estates seemed to resemble some of the ones in Britain, just with what looks like better quality construction.

    I remember some years ago looking at this book when it came out:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Going-Dutch-England-Plundered-Hollands/dp/0007197349/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.QrtCmhXeUYG4_PdBpC9q1QuNdbj31Cl4Df5mdE0L5Iyf2sVIEOPh2Ti0IirDCUnw.5FPuII7KTgDC8ruDb8ytHZb6R5IdhVgb8AJ4Gfq0IgM&dib_tag=se&keywords=lisa+jardine+going+dutch&qid=1711185209&sr=8-1

    It describes some of the cultural contacts in the 17th century.

    England famously ended up with a Dutch king following the Glorious Revolution in 1688, who came to protect the English middle classes (it's often described in this way). England had a long history of involvement with the Netherlands even by then.


    There is a significant difference today compared to Great Britain in terms of the right-left distribution of the ordinary population. You can guess Geert Wilders could be popular in England, you couldn’t imagine Geert Wilders in ROI. If Conor McGregor begins a political career soon, he would probably go to the USA where he could have attained more mainstream political support.
     
    In Britain the right-wing, in the form of the conservative party, has historically been much stronger. I am not sure what the nearest Irish equivalent would be, Fine Gael? But people like Wilders and McGregor would probably be popular in my own region of the UK as well, where since the early part of the 20th century until the 2010s the vast majority always voted for the left-wing and a lot of people would be favourable to socialism.

    There has been this realignment happening in politics, where wealthy people and the establishment supports the left as much as the right, and people who used to vote solidly for the left might support right-populist figures like Nigel Farage. Their economic views really conflict but they are attracted to them for other reasons.

    England is full of mansions, Lamborghinis, wealthy people, golf courses. Netherlands doesn’t have this upper class. But the average city in the Netherlands is more civilized.
     
    I would agree with this. Amsterdam and the surrounding area seemed attractive from an aspirational point of view, like it was more developed than my own part of the UK.

    Dutch is quite an attractive language, it can sound like extreme West Country or 'Yokel' English dialects. In the UK these would be associated with rustic populations and low socio-economic and educational status, but in the case of Dutch the opposite is the case which makes it interesting.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    You can now get your fix of Dutch caffeine in my neighborhood. I can’t tell you whether the joe is any good or not, since I stopped frequenting drive through coffee emporiums several years ago. Apparently, they offer food too:

    This new franchise looks interesting too. They’ve apparently taken the Dutch interest in cannabis highs one step further:

  949. @LatW
    @LatW

    Don't want to objectify but very beautiful...

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/40/09/b6/4009b6d59c2f2e03433fd601b0b6cbf8.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e0/f7/75/e0f7752554ec6d381e0ec4a522cdca23.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/6b/2d/6f6b2d7b64239ec0274eaa7ddcbb5d6b.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/4f/64/234f6499889ba412f2947d9858c1fcd7.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/44/a8/dd44a81657a0c9b393aa9cd8caeba5a5.jpg

    Really like this one...

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/ba/5f/49ba5f06bfda533f7e81b44d7105fb60.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but aren’t Northern Indians less exotic-looking? Or is it admixture?

  950. @Dmitry
    @Coconuts


    Dutch the opposite is the case which makes it interesting.

     

    I don't know about the topic. I would guess modern Dutch people would be more related to populations of the regions of England, which are generally higher socioeconomic level today? The earliest settlement zone of the Dutch/English common ancestors was South England.

    https://i.imgur.com/PvK3JTO.png

    Then in the 5-7th century, larger modern area of Netherlands were settled by Angles' and Saxons' populations.


    who came to protect the English middle classes (it’s often described in this way).

     

    In the caste-system of England, even in the 20th century, a lot of the "brahmin families" were still descended from some medieval Norman mafia clans.

    Normans were mainly interested in mafia things and didn't have a strong culture identity, so they almost dissolved into Ireland or Italy.

    In England, their ancestors still were continuing as large part of the elite for almost one thousand years.

    Ancestors of Oswald Mosley, politician who was supporter of Mussolini and Hitler in the 1930s, have this name, "Ernald de Mosley (fl. 12th century), Lord of the Manor of Moseley, Staffordshire, during the reign of King John."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

    Wife of Oswald Mosley, who was a supporter of Trotsky in the 1930s, was called "Curzon" from the village of Courson in Normandy, France.

    Some descendant Normans live in their ancestors' fortified mafia house for 900 years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazlewood_Castle


    Nowadays the same time of people will probably find Orthodox
     
    Those middle class demographics today don't usually go to religions from a different historical epoch, which already died 2-3 centuries ago for educated people. But, maybe middle class people aren't completely different today.


    For urban middle class, crossfit, keto-genic diets, marathon running. Probably, today Calvin's life style recommendation will seem moderate, when we could evaluation them in relation to some of the middle class peoples' fashions.


    Huguenots occupied NCO and junior officer ranks in the French army before 1685, when Louis XIV started to expel them they joined the Dutch and English armies where they were useful to William in the 9 Years War and in Ireland
     
    I was reading maybe the same article. https://ugp.rug.nl/groniek/article/download/30221/27521/36048

    Replies: @songbird, @Philip Owen

    Normans were mainly interested in mafia things and didn’t have a strong culture identity, so they almost dissolved into Ireland or Italy.

    Possibly, the fact that they were seeking legitimacy from the Church may have made them a bit different from the Saxons. (Though some were quite violent and rapy.)

    However, I think it is a misconception that they didn’t have a strong identity. The Archbishop of Dublin was never a man with a native name, until more modern times.

    At the Battle of Knockdoe in 1504, the leader an Anglo-Norman contingent wanted to engage first, as a matter of ethnic pride. (Book of Howth.). One can find quite a separateness in the writings of Irish and Old English (Normans.). There is one letter from the mid or late 1600s, where a native is basically suggesting that Normans be purged from the Church leadership.

    Normans were favored politically to a large extent, so it was in their interest to keep the identity.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    "The Archbishop of Dublin was never a man with a native name, until more modern times."

    Before the Reformation the names were mostly Norman because it was as much a political post as a religious one.

    After the Reformation in England, there were two Archbishops of Dublin, a Protestant and a Catholic.

    How do names like Byrne, Murphy and Fagan strike you, or is 300-odd years ago too modern?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_of_Dublin#Roman_Catholic_succession

    Norman surnames still are more likely to imply wealth in the UK today.


    " After nearly a 1000 years those with surnames associated with the Norman conquest are still a little over-represented in the intake of Oxford and Cambridge University. "
     
    https://ianhopkinson.org.uk/2015/09/book-review-the-son-also-rises-by-gregory-clark/

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Dmitry
    @songbird

    They an identity with strategies, military techniques. But they don't have fixed culture identity like a nationality which was settled. They are more like today example of mafia clans, like transnational cartels.

    Almost immediately after the Viking warriors become servants of the French king, they were speaking French and forget their Norse language. They copy the Romanesque style for their art and literature from Franks. The French architecture, from Franks.

    Anglo-Saxon England is conquered by French-speaking Normans in 1066, England doesn't become French language speaking with centuries of Norman kings. French architecture, cathedrals and language comes to England. After some time, descendants of Normans become Anglo-Saxon language people.

    In France, they became French after accepting land in France and servants to France's king. They become Anglo-Saxons after conquering England. They have the high level of cultural openness and become the identity of the people they conquer.

    Normans in the Kingdom of Sicily, created the tolerant multicultural society, which had influence of Byzantine, Frank and Islamic culture. King Roger II sounds like he believed almost dual Christian-Muslim identity.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman%E2%80%93Arab%E2%80%93Byzantine_culture#Key_figures

    Replies: @songbird

  951. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Would the Romanians have arrested Andrew Tate if he spewed their anti-Putin nonsense?
     
    The kind of activity he was involved in (Western PUA prostitution and pimping activity) goes hand in hand with a pro-Russia stance. It's a type that has proliferated in the West. They should stay away from E.Europe. Deal with your own women.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Wokechoke

    There are many many PUA who do not like Putin. His invasion ruined their prostitution businesses in Ukraine.

    • Troll: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Wokechoke

    Roussey might have a column archived where he compares Kiev whores and Samoa whores.

  952. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Just like more and more Hispanics are constantly complimenting the US, more and more Muslims would have similarly constantly complimented Russia, just so long as their bad apples would have been put under control.
     
    Frankly, I doubt that - there was still a strong core Slavic population present in the 1970s and 1980s, who would have not liked to live around those from Muslim republics. You're assuming that the population of a free post-Tsarist Russia would degenerate in the same way the West has degenerated, but this is not a given. Also, the Slavs are more rooted in their homeland than the Americans in the New world (even if those used to be largely Finnic populations that were Slavicized, but that just adds to the point since they had lived there for millennia, not just a few hundred years, their rootedness would help preserve them from outside influence).

    What a delightful mixture! A beautiful tribute and synthesis to Russia’s Eurasian history and culture!
     
    Those are just your wet dreams - nothing beautiful about it at all. The reality is a bit different. Even if some of this Putin's multi-cultural project seems to have worked (most Central Asians seem to be rather peaceful and somewhat decent workers from which this new RusFed has benefited).

    I vaguely remember my Slavic compatriots from the 1980s and, while they were somewhat less "nationalist" in the contemporary sense of the word (ethno nationalism was not allowed), they were also more spiritually or mentally robust and had more cultural (racial) cohesion. They would've very likely been able to keep the non-Slavic populations at bay. Those groups were also smaller in their numbers and mostly stayed in their respective lands. The Slavic population was mentally and culturally dominant. Of course, there were some minor spats and some ethnic nuances (e.g., everyone was aware that the Caucasians are different), but there was nothing like what they have now in RusFed when Caucasians often dominate over Slavs.

    Today's Russians seem to be more nationalistic (intolerant), but they have also become way, way more hedonistic, materialistic, maybe practice more open Orthodoxy, but simultaneously have less cultural cohesion, I feel they're softer inside and are not as robust anymore. They are in a dilemma because they have included all those nationalities in the larger state - so technically they are allowed to live in Moscow as well, even if some of them barely speak Russian.

    Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).

    And then on top of that, they start an neo-colonial, revanchist, imperialist war.. which will inevitably compromise the country's borders and flood the country with semi-automatic weapons. The Russians fighting in Ukraine literally sell their weapons on the border. This is just another sign of the overall chaotization that is bound to begin now. The war has indeed come back home. Where have seen this before...

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Wokechoke

    “Sooner or later something like the Krokus attack was bound to happen (assuming it is indeed an Islamist attack and not an FSB false flag).“

    The gunmen fled west, they were captured in an area that could have led to either Belarus (then to the Baltic’s or Poland), or if they turned left a little to Ukraine.

    You stink of something.

    It was obviously a western sponsored attack given these 4 gunmen’s exit direction.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Troll: Mr. Hack
  953. Can’t be bothered to read the regurgitated MSM takes from the usual suspects, just a few data points

    a) as noted above, the 4 guys were captured in an oblast which borders both Ukraine and Belarus. If I’d just killed 100 Russian civilians, I’d imagine Ukraine would be the obvious choice.

    b) these certainly weren’t ye olde tyme Jihadis – no blowing themselves up for them, though they did behead one person. Don’t seem the brightest types.

    c) the Ukrainian embassy in Tajikistan was advertising for Tajiks to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Ad since deleted but preserved at sites like Lord of War.

    d) a USAF Special Forces MC130J left Tblisi in Georgia on March 19 and flew to Almaty in Kazakhstan, returning the following day. Transponders were turned off for parts of both journeys.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#34709ba1

    How long it had been in Tblisi and where it is now I have no idea, can’t watch Flightradar24 all day every day. But it hasn’t gone under its moniker 08-6201.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_MC-130#MC-130J_Commando_II

    “the MC-130s’ missions are the infiltration, exfiltration, and resupply of special operations forces, and the air refueling of (primarily) special operations helicopter and tilt-rotor aircraft”

    • Replies: @A123
    @YetAnotherAnon


    a) as noted above, the 4 guys were captured in an oblast which borders both Ukraine and Belarus. If I’d just killed 100 Russian civilians, I’d imagine Ukraine would be the obvious choice.

    b) these certainly weren’t ye olde tyme Jihadis – no blowing themselves up for them, though they did behead one person. Don’t seem the brightest types.

    c) the Ukrainian embassy in Tajikistan was advertising for Tajiks to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Ad since deleted but preserved at sites like Lord of War.
     

    A thru C strongly point to a connection with Führer Zelensky.

    d) a USAF Special Forces MC130J left Tblisi in Georgia on March 19 and flew to Almaty in Kazakhstan
     
    It seems highly unlikely that there was any direct American involvement.

    Georgia is separated from Ukraine by Russian Crimea. Thus, any American air link would have to be over the Black Sea. This is inconsistent with a ground bound Ukrainian attack in Moscow. The escaping terrorists remained 100% terrestrial and were captured on the ground short of the northern land border with Ukraine (near Belarus).

    Was the MC-130 up to something nefarious? Possibly. But, if so, there is absolutely no tangible evidence that it had anything to do with Führer Zelensky's destruction of the Azeri Jew owned concert hall.
    ___

    The Veggie-In-Chief's administration, including intelligence, is known to be incompetent and negligent. Keeping these leakers from having information is pretty much essential to any secret operation. Why would Kiev risk blowing the op by telling those connected to the White House occupant?

    The vagueness of the warning suggests exceedingly limited U.S. knowledge. If they were involved they would have said nothing. And, if they wanted to prevent something specific, they would have shared details. The lack of information indicates they were out of the loop.

    It is not confirmed, but there are multiple anecdotes of White House staff becoming suddenly active only AFTER the attack. If true, this would be another indication that they were reacting to rather than prepared for the event.

    PEACE 😇

    , @Beckow
    @YetAnotherAnon


    ...the 4 guys were captured in an oblast which borders both Ukraine and Belarus.
     
    It is the most natural way to get out. Finland border is now more guarded and in winter too difficult. But going to Belarus makes no sense, Luka is meaner than anyone. They were heading to Ukraine.

    More puzzling is that they didn't split up or hide in Moscow (10 million people!). The contrast between the obvious lack of smarts and the mindless brutality is glaring. We have seen that before with hired guns.

    Someone else organized it and they thought it was ok to risk capture. They either don't know much or it was the only way to recruit them. The forensics will show a lot but the planners are behind intermediaries. US wouldn't bother with proving it - if it walks like a duck... Let's see what Russia does. They usually don't threaten and let the punishment speak for itself. Unless they publicly exonerate Kiev, this will be ugly.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  954. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    That is great data.

    Not complete though. To me the most interesting number would be how many had firsthand experience with significant vaccine injuries, like Robert Kennedy's injury, and felt terrorized into playing Russian roulette with the shot because they could not imagine losing their paycheck. Very unlikely that number is zero in my (biased) view.

    I looked at Unz's Physical Review paper. In the acknowledgements part he name drops Stephen Hawking and Sydney Coleman. For those who do not know, Coleman was only very very very slightly less illustrious than Hawking.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/UnzRonK-1984.pdf

    If you watch all the way to end of the Swiatek Giorgi match,

    A. it was warm in Miami in the middle of the afternoon and the hotties get very sweaty;
    B. Giorgi did not look too gracious about her ass whipped 6-1, 6-1 by the younger and hotter number one in the world.

    Replies: @QCIC

    There are many questions about psychological pressure and vaccines. The number I listed for coworkers who think I’m crazy on this topic was a typo, it should be only 116! The point of my anecdotal summary is that in highly educated areas of the East coast I believe the number of intelligent vaccine skeptics is very low. The media these people interact with toes the pharma-government line entirely and is airtight against useful information leaking in from more organic sources such as Unz. Any alternative media these people consume apparently did not engage with the obvious and important questions related to COVID and the mRNA shots.

    Thanks for linking Ron’s old paper. It is a reminder of how the attempts to quantize gravity and unify everything combined with skeletons in the closet like the cosmological constant led to the chaos in theoretical physics leading to whatever crazy ideas we have nowadays. I think this phase was quite a breakthrough in the sense that the priests were defrocked and people can again simply say, “Hay, we really have no idea. Let’s think about it!”

  955. @songbird
    @Dmitry


    Normans were mainly interested in mafia things and didn’t have a strong culture identity, so they almost dissolved into Ireland or Italy.
     
    Possibly, the fact that they were seeking legitimacy from the Church may have made them a bit different from the Saxons. (Though some were quite violent and rapy.)

    However, I think it is a misconception that they didn't have a strong identity. The Archbishop of Dublin was never a man with a native name, until more modern times.

    At the Battle of Knockdoe in 1504, the leader an Anglo-Norman contingent wanted to engage first, as a matter of ethnic pride. (Book of Howth.). One can find quite a separateness in the writings of Irish and Old English (Normans.). There is one letter from the mid or late 1600s, where a native is basically suggesting that Normans be purged from the Church leadership.

    Normans were favored politically to a large extent, so it was in their interest to keep the identity.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Dmitry

    “The Archbishop of Dublin was never a man with a native name, until more modern times.”

    Before the Reformation the names were mostly Norman because it was as much a political post as a religious one.

    After the Reformation in England, there were two Archbishops of Dublin, a Protestant and a Catholic.

    How do names like Byrne, Murphy and Fagan strike you, or is 300-odd years ago too modern?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_of_Dublin#Roman_Catholic_succession

    Norman surnames still are more likely to imply wealth in the UK today.

    ” After nearly a 1000 years those with surnames associated with the Norman conquest are still a little over-represented in the intake of Oxford and Cambridge University. ”

    https://ianhopkinson.org.uk/2015/09/book-review-the-son-also-rises-by-gregory-clark/

    • Replies: @songbird
    @YetAnotherAnon


    How do names like Byrne, Murphy and Fagan strike you, or is 300-odd years ago too modern?
     
    Perhaps, I shouldn't have used the word "modern."

    AFAIK, the first native name since the conquest would have been Creagh appointed in 1694.

    Nominated by James II, whom he had followed into exile, he did not set foot in Dublin, after he was appointed. His successor Murphy was consecrated in Newgate gaol.

    So the system had been upended by then. But 500+ years is a pretty long time, and I think gives the lie to the idea that the Normans were more Irish than the Irish.

    You are right - there were practical political considerations, especially after the Reformation. At times, one needed family influence just not to die in jail. More generally,one needed family wealth since the coffers were poor. In many ways, that would make the Old English the logical choice - but those differences were still perceived and resented.

    Creagh's great uncle, who was the archbishop of Armagh, had been martyred in the Tower of London. So he was a pretty solid choice politically for the Church, in terms of loyalties.

    By 1700, nearly the only Catholics who owned land were Normans. And they would not have owned much. The Normans were always favored politically, even by that time, they were given preference in litigating land claims, IIRC.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  956. @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    There are many many PUA who do not like Putin. His invasion ruined their prostitution businesses in Ukraine.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Roussey might have a column archived where he compares Kiev whores and Samoa whores.

  957. A123 says: • Website
    @YetAnotherAnon
    Can't be bothered to read the regurgitated MSM takes from the usual suspects, just a few data points

    a) as noted above, the 4 guys were captured in an oblast which borders both Ukraine and Belarus. If I'd just killed 100 Russian civilians, I'd imagine Ukraine would be the obvious choice.

    b) these certainly weren't ye olde tyme Jihadis - no blowing themselves up for them, though they did behead one person. Don't seem the brightest types.

    c) the Ukrainian embassy in Tajikistan was advertising for Tajiks to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Ad since deleted but preserved at sites like Lord of War.

    d) a USAF Special Forces MC130J left Tblisi in Georgia on March 19 and flew to Almaty in Kazakhstan, returning the following day. Transponders were turned off for parts of both journeys.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#34709ba1

    How long it had been in Tblisi and where it is now I have no idea, can't watch Flightradar24 all day every day. But it hasn't gone under its moniker 08-6201.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_MC-130#MC-130J_Commando_II

    "the MC-130s' missions are the infiltration, exfiltration, and resupply of special operations forces, and the air refueling of (primarily) special operations helicopter and tilt-rotor aircraft"
     

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

    a) as noted above, the 4 guys were captured in an oblast which borders both Ukraine and Belarus. If I’d just killed 100 Russian civilians, I’d imagine Ukraine would be the obvious choice.

    b) these certainly weren’t ye olde tyme Jihadis – no blowing themselves up for them, though they did behead one person. Don’t seem the brightest types.

    c) the Ukrainian embassy in Tajikistan was advertising for Tajiks to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Ad since deleted but preserved at sites like Lord of War.

    A thru C strongly point to a connection with Führer Zelensky.

    d) a USAF Special Forces MC130J left Tblisi in Georgia on March 19 and flew to Almaty in Kazakhstan

    It seems highly unlikely that there was any direct American involvement.

    Georgia is separated from Ukraine by Russian Crimea. Thus, any American air link would have to be over the Black Sea. This is inconsistent with a ground bound Ukrainian attack in Moscow. The escaping terrorists remained 100% terrestrial and were captured on the ground short of the northern land border with Ukraine (near Belarus).

    Was the MC-130 up to something nefarious? Possibly. But, if so, there is absolutely no tangible evidence that it had anything to do with Führer Zelensky’s destruction of the Azeri Jew owned concert hall.
    ___

    The Veggie-In-Chief’s administration, including intelligence, is known to be incompetent and negligent. Keeping these leakers from having information is pretty much essential to any secret operation. Why would Kiev risk blowing the op by telling those connected to the White House occupant?

    The vagueness of the warning suggests exceedingly limited U.S. knowledge. If they were involved they would have said nothing. And, if they wanted to prevent something specific, they would have shared details. The lack of information indicates they were out of the loop.

    It is not confirmed, but there are multiple anecdotes of White House staff becoming suddenly active only AFTER the attack. If true, this would be another indication that they were reacting to rather than prepared for the event.

    PEACE 😇

  958. A123 says: • Website

    At what point will the European Empire realize they are risking everything? (1)

    Russia Bombards Ukraine With Fresh Wave of Missile Strikes,
    With One Passing Through Polish Airspace

    The object entered near the Polish town of Oserdów and stayed there for 39 seconds, the statement said. It added that military radar systems observed the missile the entire time and all necessary procedures were launched to ensure the safety of Polish airspace.

    Poland’s Defense Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz told reporters in a televised news conference that the Russian missile would have been shot down had there been any indication that it was heading towards a target in Poland. He said the missile penetrated Polish airspace about 1,000-2,000 meters (0.6 miles to 1.2 miles)

    Was this an operational error? Or, a deliberate warning by the Kremlin? Either way, it highlights Russian willingness to respond to Kiev aggression.

    Why is Scholz so willing to risk WW III? It is clearly not what German voters want to see.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/03/24/russia-bombards-ukraine-with-fresh-wave-of-missile-strikes/

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123


    ...At what point will the European Empire realize they are risking everything?
     
    The lemmings never realize what's going on, that's the whole point about being a lemming. Scholz, UK Indian, Scandies even look like lemmings, Macron to his credit doesn't - he is more like a weak predator with a loud bark.

    It is ok to risk but one should know the odds. The Ukie-project always had low odds, after Russia made the counter-moves the odds dropped dramatically. At this point it is a question of how bad will be the loss, what of Ukraine will be preserved, the long-term damage to Euro economy.

    Or we can do the nukes. The lemmings probably don't care that much, they will have to leave once this is over anyway. Even Euros can't ignore incompetence that massive. (But maybe they can, in a post-modern society things are very twisted.)

  959. @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    "The Archbishop of Dublin was never a man with a native name, until more modern times."

    Before the Reformation the names were mostly Norman because it was as much a political post as a religious one.

    After the Reformation in England, there were two Archbishops of Dublin, a Protestant and a Catholic.

    How do names like Byrne, Murphy and Fagan strike you, or is 300-odd years ago too modern?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_of_Dublin#Roman_Catholic_succession

    Norman surnames still are more likely to imply wealth in the UK today.


    " After nearly a 1000 years those with surnames associated with the Norman conquest are still a little over-represented in the intake of Oxford and Cambridge University. "
     
    https://ianhopkinson.org.uk/2015/09/book-review-the-son-also-rises-by-gregory-clark/

    Replies: @songbird

    How do names like Byrne, Murphy and Fagan strike you, or is 300-odd years ago too modern?

    Perhaps, I shouldn’t have used the word “modern.”

    [MORE]

    AFAIK, the first native name since the conquest would have been Creagh appointed in 1694.

    Nominated by James II, whom he had followed into exile, he did not set foot in Dublin, after he was appointed. His successor Murphy was consecrated in Newgate gaol.

    So the system had been upended by then. But 500+ years is a pretty long time, and I think gives the lie to the idea that the Normans were more Irish than the Irish.

    You are right – there were practical political considerations, especially after the Reformation. At times, one needed family influence just not to die in jail. More generally,one needed family wealth since the coffers were poor. In many ways, that would make the Old English the logical choice – but those differences were still perceived and resented.

    Creagh’s great uncle, who was the archbishop of Armagh, had been martyred in the Tower of London. So he was a pretty solid choice politically for the Church, in terms of loyalties.

    By 1700, nearly the only Catholics who owned land were Normans. And they would not have owned much. The Normans were always favored politically, even by that time, they were given preference in litigating land claims, IIRC.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    But... Ireland wasn't anything exceptional to the Normans. They put Normans in charge everywhere they went.

    The dramatic change in Archbishops of Canterbury post-1066 is stunning. Before the invasion all the names were Saxon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archbishops_of_Canterbury#After_the_Norman_conquest

    You have to get to 1737 before you find someone with a more ordinary English occupational name like Potter.

    Replies: @songbird

  960. @A123
    At what point will the European Empire realize they are risking everything? (1)

    Russia Bombards Ukraine With Fresh Wave of Missile Strikes,
    With One Passing Through Polish Airspace

     

    The object entered near the Polish town of Oserdów and stayed there for 39 seconds, the statement said. It added that military radar systems observed the missile the entire time and all necessary procedures were launched to ensure the safety of Polish airspace.

    Poland’s Defense Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz told reporters in a televised news conference that the Russian missile would have been shot down had there been any indication that it was heading towards a target in Poland. He said the missile penetrated Polish airspace about 1,000-2,000 meters (0.6 miles to 1.2 miles)

     

    Was this an operational error? Or, a deliberate warning by the Kremlin? Either way, it highlights Russian willingness to respond to Kiev aggression.

    Why is Scholz so willing to risk WW III? It is clearly not what German voters want to see.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/03/24/russia-bombards-ukraine-with-fresh-wave-of-missile-strikes/

    Replies: @Beckow

    …At what point will the European Empire realize they are risking everything?

    The lemmings never realize what’s going on, that’s the whole point about being a lemming. Scholz, UK Indian, Scandies even look like lemmings, Macron to his credit doesn’t – he is more like a weak predator with a loud bark.

    It is ok to risk but one should know the odds. The Ukie-project always had low odds, after Russia made the counter-moves the odds dropped dramatically. At this point it is a question of how bad will be the loss, what of Ukraine will be preserved, the long-term damage to Euro economy.

    Or we can do the nukes. The lemmings probably don’t care that much, they will have to leave once this is over anyway. Even Euros can’t ignore incompetence that massive. (But maybe they can, in a post-modern society things are very twisted.)

    • Agree: A123
  961. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Here is the number one problem with the Art of Medical Doctoring as practiced in 2024: no practitioner considers non drug remedies for anything.

    The biggest variable in acid reflux is the force of gravity. If you are horizontal with a full stomach your poor valve is under a huge stress. If you stay vertical when you have food in your stomach there is no stress on your poor valve. This is the zero order phenomenon and it is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    The biggest variable in biological clock regulation is sunlight. If you get some sunlight exposure after waking all your glands get their timers set and if you don't you are begging for trouble. This is the zero order phenomenon. It is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    A lot of what people eat is not food. If you do not eat food your celiac ganglia cannot send the signal to your brain that you are busy working on digesting and you can stop eating now. This is the zero order phenomenon. It is not in your doctor's diagnosis tree computer program.

    Every body needs vigorous exercise and ample rest and healthy food. Much of modern disease is a lack of basic needs. Many doctors are not taking care of their own bodies. I do not remember the face or the name of the guy the last time I had to go to the doctor. I do remember that he was fat. He was only 40 years old and there is no chance he could do a pull up.

    Replies: @QCIC, @YetAnotherAnon

    OTOH there’s a 45 year old lady doctor near me just about to start a 500km charity bike ride. She has four kids. She’s fit in both senses.

    If all lady doctors had 4 kids the UK would be a much better place. Over half of UK medical students are now female, so the medical profession is going female rapidly.

    Her 4 intelligent children are IMHO as great a contribution to Britain as her doctoring is.

    Whereas most women in the UK with 4 kids are either Muslim or the kids have three different fathers…

  962. @songbird
    @YetAnotherAnon


    How do names like Byrne, Murphy and Fagan strike you, or is 300-odd years ago too modern?
     
    Perhaps, I shouldn't have used the word "modern."

    AFAIK, the first native name since the conquest would have been Creagh appointed in 1694.

    Nominated by James II, whom he had followed into exile, he did not set foot in Dublin, after he was appointed. His successor Murphy was consecrated in Newgate gaol.

    So the system had been upended by then. But 500+ years is a pretty long time, and I think gives the lie to the idea that the Normans were more Irish than the Irish.

    You are right - there were practical political considerations, especially after the Reformation. At times, one needed family influence just not to die in jail. More generally,one needed family wealth since the coffers were poor. In many ways, that would make the Old English the logical choice - but those differences were still perceived and resented.

    Creagh's great uncle, who was the archbishop of Armagh, had been martyred in the Tower of London. So he was a pretty solid choice politically for the Church, in terms of loyalties.

    By 1700, nearly the only Catholics who owned land were Normans. And they would not have owned much. The Normans were always favored politically, even by that time, they were given preference in litigating land claims, IIRC.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    But… Ireland wasn’t anything exceptional to the Normans. They put Normans in charge everywhere they went.

    The dramatic change in Archbishops of Canterbury post-1066 is stunning. Before the invasion all the names were Saxon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archbishops_of_Canterbury#After_the_Norman_conquest

    You have to get to 1737 before you find someone with a more ordinary English occupational name like Potter.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @YetAnotherAnon


    They put Normans in charge everywhere they went.
     
    yes, but Dmitry was saying that he thought they did not have a strong identity in Ireland and Italy (Sicily?).

    Though, TBH, am largely ignorant of the latter case, I just have a hard time imagining it. "Identity in the past was strong, even for the Normans" would be my generalized contention.
  963. @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    But... Ireland wasn't anything exceptional to the Normans. They put Normans in charge everywhere they went.

    The dramatic change in Archbishops of Canterbury post-1066 is stunning. Before the invasion all the names were Saxon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archbishops_of_Canterbury#After_the_Norman_conquest

    You have to get to 1737 before you find someone with a more ordinary English occupational name like Potter.

    Replies: @songbird

    They put Normans in charge everywhere they went.

    yes, but Dmitry was saying that he thought they did not have a strong identity in Ireland and Italy (Sicily?).

    Though, TBH, am largely ignorant of the latter case, I just have a hard time imagining it. “Identity in the past was strong, even for the Normans” would be my generalized contention.

  964. @YetAnotherAnon
    Can't be bothered to read the regurgitated MSM takes from the usual suspects, just a few data points

    a) as noted above, the 4 guys were captured in an oblast which borders both Ukraine and Belarus. If I'd just killed 100 Russian civilians, I'd imagine Ukraine would be the obvious choice.

    b) these certainly weren't ye olde tyme Jihadis - no blowing themselves up for them, though they did behead one person. Don't seem the brightest types.

    c) the Ukrainian embassy in Tajikistan was advertising for Tajiks to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Ad since deleted but preserved at sites like Lord of War.

    d) a USAF Special Forces MC130J left Tblisi in Georgia on March 19 and flew to Almaty in Kazakhstan, returning the following day. Transponders were turned off for parts of both journeys.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/08-6201#34709ba1

    How long it had been in Tblisi and where it is now I have no idea, can't watch Flightradar24 all day every day. But it hasn't gone under its moniker 08-6201.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_MC-130#MC-130J_Commando_II

    "the MC-130s' missions are the infiltration, exfiltration, and resupply of special operations forces, and the air refueling of (primarily) special operations helicopter and tilt-rotor aircraft"
     

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

    …the 4 guys were captured in an oblast which borders both Ukraine and Belarus.

    It is the most natural way to get out. Finland border is now more guarded and in winter too difficult. But going to Belarus makes no sense, Luka is meaner than anyone. They were heading to Ukraine.

    More puzzling is that they didn’t split up or hide in Moscow (10 million people!). The contrast between the obvious lack of smarts and the mindless brutality is glaring. We have seen that before with hired guns.

    Someone else organized it and they thought it was ok to risk capture. They either don’t know much or it was the only way to recruit them. The forensics will show a lot but the planners are behind intermediaries. US wouldn’t bother with proving itif it walks like a duck… Let’s see what Russia does. They usually don’t threaten and let the punishment speak for itself. Unless they publicly exonerate Kiev, this will be ugly.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack. At the beginning, it appeared that chances are 50:50 that is was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists or Ukies. If it’s ISIS, it means that the CIA did it in collaboration with Mossad, as ISIS is a Mossad subsidiary (that’s why ISIS never ever attacked any Israeli targets). If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference.

    As evidence accumulates, the Islamic hypothesis looks less and less likely. One, Islamic terrorists are usually on a suicide mission, never have pre-planned escape route and never work for money. In contrast, the perps worked for money and had pre-planned escape route. Two, the perps tried to flee to Ukieland, were captured in Bryansk region. Three, the Ukie regime and its American puppeteers repeatedly denied Ukie involvement and work hard to direct the attention to ISIS. As we all know, it ain’t true unless the government denies it. What’s more, the US if often reluctant to blame ISIS (likely not to smear its Mossad overlords). This time the US government immediately suggested ISIS, which likely means that it was trying to direct the blame away from its other subsidiaries.

    Right now about ~80% of the RF residents and even greater fraction of troops on the front lines believes that this crime was ordered and organized by Ukies. Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow, @YetAnotherAnon, @Philip Owen

  965. @sudden death
    @A123

    Those fugitive terrorists were tracked and detained in the village of Teply exactly near the border with Belarus in different direction from the road which was leading to UA:

    https://i.postimg.cc/W3PLNqyp/crocuscatch.jpg

    https://t.me/kartografo/1956

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “in the village of Teply exactly near the border with Belarus in different direction from the road which was leading to UA”

    https://t.me/llordofwar/308856

    “they were apprehended near the settlement Teploe (Тёплое), NOT Teply (Тёплый), which is the one by the Belarusian border. It is about 380th km. of Kyevsky highway.

    From the place where the chase began there was a direct road only to Ukraine, and they had already passed the turn to Bryansk, and subsequently to Gomel, Belarus at that time.

    The pro-🇺🇦 sources deliberately misdirected Western audiences, since the settlement names are very similar in name, but different enough for native Russian/Ukrainian speakers.”

    Still, I’m sure it’s an innocent mistake…

    • Thanks: A123
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It is amusing how the Western media is in overdrive to say "ISIS did it!!!!"...too soon and too eager. Ukies first statement was that it was a "false flag", that doesn't help them. Washington quickly exonerating Kiev was a lousy move - they should let it play out.

    We are in for far more escalation. It makes it easier to abandon Kiev in spite of all the "ISIS!!!" propaganda, the terrorism gave Russia free hands at home. It doesn't matter how it is covered in the West - same way the views of the others didn't matter after 911.

    ISIS fighters took a famous picture with McCain in Syria. ISIS has only attacked Western enemies, quite some "Islamist" group. This is transparent.

    , @sudden death
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Specifically looked up in some state owned RF source and it's a blurry mess there so far regarding the place - not a single word about Teploe, two different districts mentioned and "several tens of kilometers from the border with UA" when in your own given source map the distance is not anyhow less than 130 km, so the question might be cleared later:


    On the morning of March 23, it became known that law enforcement officers in the Navlinsky district of the Bryansk region stopped a white Renault Symbol, which was driving four alleged terrorists who attacked the Crocus City Hall concert hall in Krasnogorsk. The suspects tried to hide in the forest, but were soon detained.

    At the same time, the car was stopped just a few tens of kilometers from the border with Ukraine.

    According to unconfirmed information from the Telegram channel “112”, a Renault Symbol matching the target did not stop at the request of a police officer, and then the security forces had to open fire on the wheels.

    At the same time, State Duma deputy Alexander Khinshtein reported that the car in which the suspects were traveling was discovered at night near the village of Khatsun, Karachevsky district, Bryansk region. During the chase, shots were fired at him and the car overturned. Inside the car, security forces found a Makarov pistol, a magazine for an AKM assault rifle, and several passports.
     

    https://lenta.ru/articles/2024/03/23/crocus/
    , @Philip Owen
    @YetAnotherAnon

    But then the Belarussians saying the Tajiks turned up at their border (much more sense) and were turned back. Some accounts place them a lot closer to Belarus than Ukraine. Also, a Ukrainian "window" is no good without a Russian one as well.

    Why weren't the Tajiks armed and fighting back?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  966. Am wondering now whether LatW favors Meso-Americans over East Asians.

    [MORE]

    AFAIK, some theorize that Germans originally came from the Balts (though I am skeptical.). And then there is the stereotype that Germans have Deutsche Indianertümelei , based on the novels of Karl May.

    Though I have similarly been skeptical of this, I think GR said it was a thing. But I still suspect it is just progressive rhetoric. Especially since the first form I had heard it articulated in was of Germans supposedly sexually harrassing browns, and trying to get them to wear squaw costumes.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_German_popular_culture

    Speaking personally, I do appreciate the Indian way of speaking which often refers to tribe. And have some enjoyment of frontier stories, but these things aren’t pathologies and shouldn’t be pathologized.

    But perhaps the media are right to demonize any outbreeding tendencies.

    As to attraction, of the two groups, I think my personal preference would be for East Asian women, who similarly have thick hair, though perhaps not quite as thick.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Am wondering now whether LatW favors Meso-Americans over East Asians.
     
    To be fully honest, I do not find either of these two groups attractive (from the sheer physical point of view). I only like them as people. But it's not my place to judge. I only find a small percentage of Whites physically attractive, and North Indians I like for aesthetic and romantic reasons.

    I just brought up the Mayan woman because it was interesting to see her features - it made me think of a hypothetical Mayan woman thousands of years ago, who must have looked that same way. It was interesting to see from that point of view.

    Replies: @songbird

  967. @songbird
    Am wondering now whether LatW favors Meso-Americans over East Asians.

    AFAIK, some theorize that Germans originally came from the Balts (though I am skeptical.). And then there is the stereotype that Germans have Deutsche Indianertümelei , based on the novels of Karl May.

    Though I have similarly been skeptical of this, I think GR said it was a thing. But I still suspect it is just progressive rhetoric. Especially since the first form I had heard it articulated in was of Germans supposedly sexually harrassing browns, and trying to get them to wear squaw costumes.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_German_popular_culture

    Speaking personally, I do appreciate the Indian way of speaking which often refers to tribe. And have some enjoyment of frontier stories, but these things aren't pathologies and shouldn't be pathologized.

    But perhaps the media are right to demonize any outbreeding tendencies.

    As to attraction, of the two groups, I think my personal preference would be for East Asian women, who similarly have thick hair, though perhaps not quite as thick.

    Replies: @LatW

    [MORE]

    Am wondering now whether LatW favors Meso-Americans over East Asians.

    To be fully honest, I do not find either of these two groups attractive (from the sheer physical point of view). I only like them as people. But it’s not my place to judge. I only find a small percentage of Whites physically attractive, and North Indians I like for aesthetic and romantic reasons.

    I just brought up the Mayan woman because it was interesting to see her features – it made me think of a hypothetical Mayan woman thousands of years ago, who must have looked that same way. It was interesting to see from that point of view.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    To be fully honest, I do not find either of these two groups attractive (from the sheer physical point of view).
     
    There's nothing wrong with liking your own type.

    Have before said that I think I can perceive the difference in head shape between NE and NW Europe and feel I favor the closest type. (Not an exclusive ranking, but more a trend.)

    I only find a small percentage of Whites physically attractive
     
    I think this is quite a common feeling.

    Once I knew a girl who was objectively quite good-looking, and I had a hard time explaining why I didn't find her attractive. My theory is that it had something to do with hormone exposure in the womb. The face type. It was quite a beautiful and feminine face, but just not my favored type of feminine face.

    I wonder if they shrugged off all these differences a hundred and fifty years ago or so. (I think arranged marriages were more common back then.)

    Replies: @LatW

  968. @YetAnotherAnon
    @sudden death

    "in the village of Teply exactly near the border with Belarus in different direction from the road which was leading to UA"

    https://t.me/llordofwar/308856


    "they were apprehended near the settlement Teploe (Тёплое), NOT Teply (Тёплый), which is the one by the Belarusian border. It is about 380th km. of Kyevsky highway.

    From the place where the chase began there was a direct road only to Ukraine, and they had already passed the turn to Bryansk, and subsequently to Gomel, Belarus at that time.

    The pro-🇺🇦 sources deliberately misdirected Western audiences, since the settlement names are very similar in name, but different enough for native Russian/Ukrainian speakers."
     
    Still, I'm sure it's an innocent mistake...

    Replies: @Beckow, @sudden death, @Philip Owen

    It is amusing how the Western media is in overdrive to say “ISIS did it!!!!”…too soon and too eager. Ukies first statement was that it was a “false flag”, that doesn’t help them. Washington quickly exonerating Kiev was a lousy move – they should let it play out.

    We are in for far more escalation. It makes it easier to abandon Kiev in spite of all the “ISIS!!!” propaganda, the terrorism gave Russia free hands at home. It doesn’t matter how it is covered in the West – same way the views of the others didn’t matter after 911.

    ISIS fighters took a famous picture with McCain in Syria. ISIS has only attacked Western enemies, quite some “Islamist” group. This is transparent.

  969. @Beckow
    @YetAnotherAnon


    ...the 4 guys were captured in an oblast which borders both Ukraine and Belarus.
     
    It is the most natural way to get out. Finland border is now more guarded and in winter too difficult. But going to Belarus makes no sense, Luka is meaner than anyone. They were heading to Ukraine.

    More puzzling is that they didn't split up or hide in Moscow (10 million people!). The contrast between the obvious lack of smarts and the mindless brutality is glaring. We have seen that before with hired guns.

    Someone else organized it and they thought it was ok to risk capture. They either don't know much or it was the only way to recruit them. The forensics will show a lot but the planners are behind intermediaries. US wouldn't bother with proving it - if it walks like a duck... Let's see what Russia does. They usually don't threaten and let the punishment speak for itself. Unless they publicly exonerate Kiev, this will be ugly.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack. At the beginning, it appeared that chances are 50:50 that is was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists or Ukies. If it’s ISIS, it means that the CIA did it in collaboration with Mossad, as ISIS is a Mossad subsidiary (that’s why ISIS never ever attacked any Israeli targets). If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference.

    As evidence accumulates, the Islamic hypothesis looks less and less likely. One, Islamic terrorists are usually on a suicide mission, never have pre-planned escape route and never work for money. In contrast, the perps worked for money and had pre-planned escape route. Two, the perps tried to flee to Ukieland, were captured in Bryansk region. Three, the Ukie regime and its American puppeteers repeatedly denied Ukie involvement and work hard to direct the attention to ISIS. As we all know, it ain’t true unless the government denies it. What’s more, the US if often reluctant to blame ISIS (likely not to smear its Mossad overlords). This time the US government immediately suggested ISIS, which likely means that it was trying to direct the blame away from its other subsidiaries.

    Right now about ~80% of the RF residents and even greater fraction of troops on the front lines believes that this crime was ordered and organized by Ukies. Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AnonfromTN


    If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference
     
    Why do you assume any major nation state involved? The details released so far do not call for any particularly specialized techniques. IMHO Zelensky's neo-Nazis could have done this entirely on their own.

    If you insist this isn't a Ukrainian stand alone operation, you would be better served calling out Kiev's puppet masters, Scholz & Macron. That would point to misbehaviour by French & German intelligence services.

    Not-The-President Biden's handlers are trying to prop him up for re-election. How does this help that immediate concern? It does not. White House retainers are running around in a frenzy, caught flat footed. If involved, the American side would have been more prepared.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    I don't believe anybody ever established where the ISI* seed funding came from. I always thought they were a weird Israel Saudi partnered project. Just like Ukraine, this terror incident is entirely Russia's business as far as I'm concerned. The US NATO EU &c. should just keep their big mouths shut. They are serial liars and should be ignored 99.9% of the time if possible.

    Has ISI* ever done one attack in Saudi, Qatar, or such places?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Philip Owen

    , @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.
     
    Usually. US would not hesitate. The perps were heading towards Ukraine, at least one was a fighter in the Ukie foreign brigade, Kiev's graceless behavior (Putin did it!), the panic ISIS story pushed in the West - it would be enough. There is the suspicious Nuland retirement after she said Russians will get a nasty surprise. Maybe someone got cold feet, but it was too late, so on to damage control.

    US has been de-escalating for some time - they want to end it with least damage. There are idiots in Europe who still want to go all the way - some like Macron only play at it, Frenchies are like that. Zelko&Co are in a state of panic.

    The main result of the terrorist attack is to give Russia free hand: as after 911 they don't have top explain anything at home (or even abroad). Russia has been fighting the war with less than 20% of its capabilities, stretching it out, trying to keep civilian and infrastructure damage low. Whether they change now is another question.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @AnonfromTN

    "At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack."

    How about General Mark Milley ordered it? Obviously someone else organised it.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-us-planning-russia-war/

    https://archive.is/voNgX


    During one visit to Wiesbaden, Milley spoke with Ukrainian special operations troops — who were working with American Green Berets — in the hope of inspiring them ahead of operations in enemy-controlled areas.

    “There should be no Russian who goes to sleep without wondering if they’re going to get their throat slit in the middle of the night,” Milley said, according to an official with knowledge of the event. “You gotta get back there, and create a campaign behind the lines.”
     
    , @Philip Owen
    @AnonfromTN

    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

  970. A123 says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack. At the beginning, it appeared that chances are 50:50 that is was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists or Ukies. If it’s ISIS, it means that the CIA did it in collaboration with Mossad, as ISIS is a Mossad subsidiary (that’s why ISIS never ever attacked any Israeli targets). If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference.

    As evidence accumulates, the Islamic hypothesis looks less and less likely. One, Islamic terrorists are usually on a suicide mission, never have pre-planned escape route and never work for money. In contrast, the perps worked for money and had pre-planned escape route. Two, the perps tried to flee to Ukieland, were captured in Bryansk region. Three, the Ukie regime and its American puppeteers repeatedly denied Ukie involvement and work hard to direct the attention to ISIS. As we all know, it ain’t true unless the government denies it. What’s more, the US if often reluctant to blame ISIS (likely not to smear its Mossad overlords). This time the US government immediately suggested ISIS, which likely means that it was trying to direct the blame away from its other subsidiaries.

    Right now about ~80% of the RF residents and even greater fraction of troops on the front lines believes that this crime was ordered and organized by Ukies. Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow, @YetAnotherAnon, @Philip Owen

    If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference

    Why do you assume any major nation state involved? The details released so far do not call for any particularly specialized techniques. IMHO Zelensky’s neo-Nazis could have done this entirely on their own.

    If you insist this isn’t a Ukrainian stand alone operation, you would be better served calling out Kiev’s puppet masters, Scholz & Macron. That would point to misbehaviour by French & German intelligence services.

    Not-The-President Biden’s handlers are trying to prop him up for re-election. How does this help that immediate concern? It does not. White House retainers are running around in a frenzy, caught flat footed. If involved, the American side would have been more prepared.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Why do you assume any major nation state involved?
     
    CIA is the largest and arguably the most competent terrorist organization in the world. It often subcontracts the dirtiest jobs to Mossad and MI6. French and German intelligence services have as few scruples as those, but they are a lot less capable. That’s the only reason why MI6 runs Ukei terrorists, not because French or German secret services are more moral.

    Replies: @A123

  971. @YetAnotherAnon
    @sudden death

    "in the village of Teply exactly near the border with Belarus in different direction from the road which was leading to UA"

    https://t.me/llordofwar/308856


    "they were apprehended near the settlement Teploe (Тёплое), NOT Teply (Тёплый), which is the one by the Belarusian border. It is about 380th km. of Kyevsky highway.

    From the place where the chase began there was a direct road only to Ukraine, and they had already passed the turn to Bryansk, and subsequently to Gomel, Belarus at that time.

    The pro-🇺🇦 sources deliberately misdirected Western audiences, since the settlement names are very similar in name, but different enough for native Russian/Ukrainian speakers."
     
    Still, I'm sure it's an innocent mistake...

    Replies: @Beckow, @sudden death, @Philip Owen

    Specifically looked up in some state owned RF source and it’s a blurry mess there so far regarding the place – not a single word about Teploe, two different districts mentioned and “several tens of kilometers from the border with UA” when in your own given source map the distance is not anyhow less than 130 km, so the question might be cleared later:

    On the morning of March 23, it became known that law enforcement officers in the Navlinsky district of the Bryansk region stopped a white Renault Symbol, which was driving four alleged terrorists who attacked the Crocus City Hall concert hall in Krasnogorsk. The suspects tried to hide in the forest, but were soon detained.

    At the same time, the car was stopped just a few tens of kilometers from the border with Ukraine.

    According to unconfirmed information from the Telegram channel “112”, a Renault Symbol matching the target did not stop at the request of a police officer, and then the security forces had to open fire on the wheels.

    At the same time, State Duma deputy Alexander Khinshtein reported that the car in which the suspects were traveling was discovered at night near the village of Khatsun, Karachevsky district, Bryansk region. During the chase, shots were fired at him and the car overturned. Inside the car, security forces found a Makarov pistol, a magazine for an AKM assault rifle, and several passports.

    https://lenta.ru/articles/2024/03/23/crocus/

  972. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack. At the beginning, it appeared that chances are 50:50 that is was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists or Ukies. If it’s ISIS, it means that the CIA did it in collaboration with Mossad, as ISIS is a Mossad subsidiary (that’s why ISIS never ever attacked any Israeli targets). If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference.

    As evidence accumulates, the Islamic hypothesis looks less and less likely. One, Islamic terrorists are usually on a suicide mission, never have pre-planned escape route and never work for money. In contrast, the perps worked for money and had pre-planned escape route. Two, the perps tried to flee to Ukieland, were captured in Bryansk region. Three, the Ukie regime and its American puppeteers repeatedly denied Ukie involvement and work hard to direct the attention to ISIS. As we all know, it ain’t true unless the government denies it. What’s more, the US if often reluctant to blame ISIS (likely not to smear its Mossad overlords). This time the US government immediately suggested ISIS, which likely means that it was trying to direct the blame away from its other subsidiaries.

    Right now about ~80% of the RF residents and even greater fraction of troops on the front lines believes that this crime was ordered and organized by Ukies. Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow, @YetAnotherAnon, @Philip Owen

    I don’t believe anybody ever established where the ISI* seed funding came from. I always thought they were a weird Israel Saudi partnered project. Just like Ukraine, this terror incident is entirely Russia’s business as far as I’m concerned. The US NATO EU &c. should just keep their big mouths shut. They are serial liars and should be ignored 99.9% of the time if possible.

    Has ISI* ever done one attack in Saudi, Qatar, or such places?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Has ISI* ever done one attack in Saudi, Qatar, or such places?
     
    No, they never attacked Arab states that used to be subservient to the US. However, now Saudis, UAE, and others want to join the winners and therefore are distancing themselves from the US and Israel. I wouldn’t be surprised if ISIS is used against them now, if Mossad/CIA figure that it’s time.
    , @Philip Owen
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Saudi and Qatar were the original funders of the original ISIS. Saudi even sent volunteers (suchas prisoners) to join them in Syria. RT used to be full of it.

  973. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack. At the beginning, it appeared that chances are 50:50 that is was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists or Ukies. If it’s ISIS, it means that the CIA did it in collaboration with Mossad, as ISIS is a Mossad subsidiary (that’s why ISIS never ever attacked any Israeli targets). If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference.

    As evidence accumulates, the Islamic hypothesis looks less and less likely. One, Islamic terrorists are usually on a suicide mission, never have pre-planned escape route and never work for money. In contrast, the perps worked for money and had pre-planned escape route. Two, the perps tried to flee to Ukieland, were captured in Bryansk region. Three, the Ukie regime and its American puppeteers repeatedly denied Ukie involvement and work hard to direct the attention to ISIS. As we all know, it ain’t true unless the government denies it. What’s more, the US if often reluctant to blame ISIS (likely not to smear its Mossad overlords). This time the US government immediately suggested ISIS, which likely means that it was trying to direct the blame away from its other subsidiaries.

    Right now about ~80% of the RF residents and even greater fraction of troops on the front lines believes that this crime was ordered and organized by Ukies. Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow, @YetAnotherAnon, @Philip Owen

    …Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.

    Usually. US would not hesitate. The perps were heading towards Ukraine, at least one was a fighter in the Ukie foreign brigade, Kiev’s graceless behavior (Putin did it!), the panic ISIS story pushed in the West – it would be enough. There is the suspicious Nuland retirement after she said Russians will get a nasty surprise. Maybe someone got cold feet, but it was too late, so on to damage control.

    US has been de-escalating for some time – they want to end it with least damage. There are idiots in Europe who still want to go all the way – some like Macron only play at it, Frenchies are like that. Zelko&Co are in a state of panic.

    The main result of the terrorist attack is to give Russia free hand: as after 911 they don’t have top explain anything at home (or even abroad). Russia has been fighting the war with less than 20% of its capabilities, stretching it out, trying to keep civilian and infrastructure damage low. Whether they change now is another question.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    I don’t think Russia will take it out on Ukrainian civilians. That would be unpopular in the RF. In contrast, taking out the clown, Budanov, Ermak, and other major scumbags in the Ukieland would get >90% support among the RF population. Putin wants to be popular, so he is likely to go that route.

    Replies: @Beckow

  974. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.
     
    Usually. US would not hesitate. The perps were heading towards Ukraine, at least one was a fighter in the Ukie foreign brigade, Kiev's graceless behavior (Putin did it!), the panic ISIS story pushed in the West - it would be enough. There is the suspicious Nuland retirement after she said Russians will get a nasty surprise. Maybe someone got cold feet, but it was too late, so on to damage control.

    US has been de-escalating for some time - they want to end it with least damage. There are idiots in Europe who still want to go all the way - some like Macron only play at it, Frenchies are like that. Zelko&Co are in a state of panic.

    The main result of the terrorist attack is to give Russia free hand: as after 911 they don't have top explain anything at home (or even abroad). Russia has been fighting the war with less than 20% of its capabilities, stretching it out, trying to keep civilian and infrastructure damage low. Whether they change now is another question.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    I don’t think Russia will take it out on Ukrainian civilians. That would be unpopular in the RF. In contrast, taking out the clown, Budanov, Ermak, and other major scumbags in the Ukieland would get >90% support among the RF population. Putin wants to be popular, so he is likely to go that route.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...taking out the...scumbags in the Ukieland would get >90% support
     
    It is not that easy, all attacks can have unpredictable results. The term 'collateral damage' has been rightfully mocked, but there is a kernel of truth in it. We don't know how it will play out but it is about to get even more bloody.
  975. @LatW
    @songbird


    Am wondering now whether LatW favors Meso-Americans over East Asians.
     
    To be fully honest, I do not find either of these two groups attractive (from the sheer physical point of view). I only like them as people. But it's not my place to judge. I only find a small percentage of Whites physically attractive, and North Indians I like for aesthetic and romantic reasons.

    I just brought up the Mayan woman because it was interesting to see her features - it made me think of a hypothetical Mayan woman thousands of years ago, who must have looked that same way. It was interesting to see from that point of view.

    Replies: @songbird

    [MORE]

    To be fully honest, I do not find either of these two groups attractive (from the sheer physical point of view).

    There’s nothing wrong with liking your own type.

    Have before said that I think I can perceive the difference in head shape between NE and NW Europe and feel I favor the closest type. (Not an exclusive ranking, but more a trend.)

    I only find a small percentage of Whites physically attractive

    I think this is quite a common feeling.

    Once I knew a girl who was objectively quite good-looking, and I had a hard time explaining why I didn’t find her attractive. My theory is that it had something to do with hormone exposure in the womb. The face type. It was quite a beautiful and feminine face, but just not my favored type of feminine face.

    I wonder if they shrugged off all these differences a hundred and fifty years ago or so. (I think arranged marriages were more common back then.)

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    There’s nothing wrong with liking your own type.
     

    There is a difference between liking and admitting that someone is objectively beautiful (without feeling all that attracted to them) because beauty is universal, but racial preferences might be something that is entrenched much more deeply.

    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples. So I just wanted to guide him towards the Native Americans, whom he has never even mentioned once (and to show that I'm "not raaaaycisss").


    I can perceive the difference in head shape between NE and NW Europe
     
    I'm sure there are variations (even within the same population), but we mostly have an oval head shape. Yes, I've noticed a couple of differences as well (mostly amusing ones). :)

    It was quite a beautiful and feminine face, but just not my favored type of feminine face.
     
    I know what you mean (this has happened to me as well). There are types (and not every beautiful person is "sexy"). I think that sometimes it is also a question of "getting used to", let's say, if there is a somewhat cute person, but not super attractive, if you learn more about them and like them, then you can start liking them.

    I wonder if they shrugged off all these differences a hundred and fifty years ago or so. (I think arranged marriages were more common back then.)
     
    Yes, a lot was arranged, but it might be that there was also pairing by normal attraction, I doubt everything could be fully controlled by society. I've read that the ancient Balts used to steal wives (or pay for them) on some occasions (can't really verify this but there are a few folk songs that sound like they're alluding to this), but I doubt that every single marriage was like that. Most of them probably weren't.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

  976. Ukrainians, or Ukrainian diaspora in this case, doing their best to lose friends and alienate people:

  977. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    I don't believe anybody ever established where the ISI* seed funding came from. I always thought they were a weird Israel Saudi partnered project. Just like Ukraine, this terror incident is entirely Russia's business as far as I'm concerned. The US NATO EU &c. should just keep their big mouths shut. They are serial liars and should be ignored 99.9% of the time if possible.

    Has ISI* ever done one attack in Saudi, Qatar, or such places?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Philip Owen

    Has ISI* ever done one attack in Saudi, Qatar, or such places?

    No, they never attacked Arab states that used to be subservient to the US. However, now Saudis, UAE, and others want to join the winners and therefore are distancing themselves from the US and Israel. I wouldn’t be surprised if ISIS is used against them now, if Mossad/CIA figure that it’s time.

  978. @A123
    @AnonfromTN


    If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference
     
    Why do you assume any major nation state involved? The details released so far do not call for any particularly specialized techniques. IMHO Zelensky's neo-Nazis could have done this entirely on their own.

    If you insist this isn't a Ukrainian stand alone operation, you would be better served calling out Kiev's puppet masters, Scholz & Macron. That would point to misbehaviour by French & German intelligence services.

    Not-The-President Biden's handlers are trying to prop him up for re-election. How does this help that immediate concern? It does not. White House retainers are running around in a frenzy, caught flat footed. If involved, the American side would have been more prepared.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Why do you assume any major nation state involved?

    CIA is the largest and arguably the most competent terrorist organization in the world. It often subcontracts the dirtiest jobs to Mossad and MI6. French and German intelligence services have as few scruples as those, but they are a lot less capable. That’s the only reason why MI6 runs Ukei terrorists, not because French or German secret services are more moral.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AnonfromTN



    Why do you assume any major nation state involved? The details released so far do not call for any particularly specialized techniques. IMHO Zelensky’s neo-Nazis could have done this entirely on their own.
     
    CIA is the largest and arguably the most competent terrorist organization in the world.
     
    Indeed. However, in this case, one does not need the 'most competent in the world'. One only needs miniscule competence that could be found without the assistance of any major nation state.

    You have made two unsupported logical leaps:
        -1- A foreign intelligence service *must* be involved
        -2- That service *must* be the CIA

    A general rule of operational security is tell as few people as possible. Given the absence of sophistication, the safest route would be Zelensky's team not sharing the details with any foreign nation. This is especially true for DC given their track record of leaks.

    If you assume a foreign service is involved, this again does not point to the U.S. The #1 provocateur at the moment is Macron. Would French intelligence be able to supply the needed support for your hypothetical? If so, that would be a straightforward logical choice.

        ♦︎ Is the CIA immoral enough to be involved? Yes.
        ♦︎ Is there any motivation for CIA involvement? No.

    Let me return to my prior point -- Not-The-President Biden’s handlers are trying to prop him up for re-election. How does this help that immediate concern? It does not.

    Are you really suggesting that the CIA is undercutting the current regime, which would inevitably help Trump 2024? Both the CIA and the White House share common Deep State motivation that would keep them out of your proposed conspiracy.

    If there was foreign support, it must have been from a European Empire country, most likely France or Germany.

    PEACE 😇

  979. @songbird
    @LatW


    To be fully honest, I do not find either of these two groups attractive (from the sheer physical point of view).
     
    There's nothing wrong with liking your own type.

    Have before said that I think I can perceive the difference in head shape between NE and NW Europe and feel I favor the closest type. (Not an exclusive ranking, but more a trend.)

    I only find a small percentage of Whites physically attractive
     
    I think this is quite a common feeling.

    Once I knew a girl who was objectively quite good-looking, and I had a hard time explaining why I didn't find her attractive. My theory is that it had something to do with hormone exposure in the womb. The face type. It was quite a beautiful and feminine face, but just not my favored type of feminine face.

    I wonder if they shrugged off all these differences a hundred and fifty years ago or so. (I think arranged marriages were more common back then.)

    Replies: @LatW

    There’s nothing wrong with liking your own type.

    [MORE]

    There is a difference between liking and admitting that someone is objectively beautiful (without feeling all that attracted to them) because beauty is universal, but racial preferences might be something that is entrenched much more deeply.

    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples. So I just wanted to guide him towards the Native Americans, whom he has never even mentioned once (and to show that I’m “not raaaaycisss”).

    I can perceive the difference in head shape between NE and NW Europe

    I’m sure there are variations (even within the same population), but we mostly have an oval head shape. Yes, I’ve noticed a couple of differences as well (mostly amusing ones). 🙂

    It was quite a beautiful and feminine face, but just not my favored type of feminine face.

    I know what you mean (this has happened to me as well). There are types (and not every beautiful person is “sexy”). I think that sometimes it is also a question of “getting used to”, let’s say, if there is a somewhat cute person, but not super attractive, if you learn more about them and like them, then you can start liking them.

    I wonder if they shrugged off all these differences a hundred and fifty years ago or so. (I think arranged marriages were more common back then.)

    Yes, a lot was arranged, but it might be that there was also pairing by normal attraction, I doubt everything could be fully controlled by society. I’ve read that the ancient Balts used to steal wives (or pay for them) on some occasions (can’t really verify this but there are a few folk songs that sound like they’re alluding to this), but I doubt that every single marriage was like that. Most of them probably weren’t.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples.
     
    I think he is trolling but also serious.

    I can't figure it out. If I really liked foreigners above my folks, am not sure I would even be in favor of it, as it is so unseemly. It's disgusting to see people cuck, but perhaps even more disgusting to see the slave mentality present in many of the newcomers. Obviously resentful but simultaneously greedily grasping, whether high or low. And the wokeness facilitated by it - the lack of any standards. The lack of anything cohesive. It has gotten to the point where I'd almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.

    But he uses these strange buzzwords AK uses like "human capital.". I can't even comprehend what he means by that, beyond some IQ class. (And utu would label me an "IQist."). An IQ class is not an argument. (Which point I think he has acknowledged, as he has acknowledged subversion, but continues to use the phrase.)

    Yes, a lot was arranged, but it might be that there was also pairing by normal attraction

     

    I wish I could find out more about it, but maybe arranged is too strong a word for most cases and want I want is more like "family matchmaking.". (i.e. there was some approval involved.)

     


    I’ve read that the ancient Balts used to steal wives (or pay for them) on some occasions (can’t really verify this but there are a few folk songs that sound like they’re alluding to this
     
    Am 100% sure it happened.

    Supposedly, the abduction of women for brides still happened in remote, mountain parts of Co. Kerry, Ireland into about the 1830s or perhaps later.

    In some cases, fairly innocent and something very much like a elopement (i.e., with the connivance of the bride.), but with others assisting. I think it mainly had to do with perhaps not having much property or not getting the approval of the father. (I think he legally had to approve?)

    In other cases, more questionable. The priest would be kin of the groom. I don't know to what extent there may have been rape, but I think it was generally a bit more like, "we will hold this woman, until her purity will be questioned and nobody else will want her." But not something willing. And sometimes she escaped or was found.

    Have wondered if I could be descended from such unions. Guess statistically that is what one would expect

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples. So I just wanted to guide him towards the Native Americans, whom he has never even mentioned once (and to show that I’m “not raaaaycisss”).
     
    I lived in the US for 23 years by this point in time. Does that mean nothing? I wish that I was born here, frankly, but I can't control where I was born.

    And TBF if the EU really wants to become a white ethno-state (or a white confederation), such as if nationalists will come to power there in the big countries (not just in small countries like Hungary), then so be it. It could become a white Christian European version of what Israel or India are for Jews and Hindus, respectively. Though it should then expand into the East Slavic lands once they will hopefully eventually liberalize and democratize.

    But I stand by what I said about the success of immigrant assimilation in the Anglosphere, other than of course high housing prices in certain places and certain bad apples (radical Muslims and violent blacks are the two biggest ones that come to mind). Immigrant assimilation in continental Europe has been less than stellar, to put it extremely mildly (a lot of radical Muslims is a huge issue there), though Israel has been very successful in assimilating immigrants of Jewish descent even if they are not halakhically Jewish.

    I feel sad for what the Native Americans endured and I wish that the Spanish model would have been adopted in what is now the US as well. I mean with better treatment of Native Americans--not so much with massive Native American-white intermarriage, since there were likely too few Native Americans north of Mexico to ever actually make that feasible. Pennsylvania is a good model for what was possible for Anglos with Native Americans had Anglos consistently been more decent and scrupulous.

    Out of curiosity, LatW: You don't miss your own country's historical Jewish and German populations at all? You don't think that Latvia was a better, more cosmopolitan place back when they were still there, in Latvia? Places like Transylvania, Bukovina, the Banat, and Vojvodina also used to be much more cosmopolitan.

    Replies: @LatW

  980. A123 says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Why do you assume any major nation state involved?
     
    CIA is the largest and arguably the most competent terrorist organization in the world. It often subcontracts the dirtiest jobs to Mossad and MI6. French and German intelligence services have as few scruples as those, but they are a lot less capable. That’s the only reason why MI6 runs Ukei terrorists, not because French or German secret services are more moral.

    Replies: @A123

    Why do you assume any major nation state involved? The details released so far do not call for any particularly specialized techniques. IMHO Zelensky’s neo-Nazis could have done this entirely on their own.

    CIA is the largest and arguably the most competent terrorist organization in the world.

    Indeed. However, in this case, one does not need the ‘most competent in the world’. One only needs miniscule competence that could be found without the assistance of any major nation state.

    You have made two unsupported logical leaps:
        -1- A foreign intelligence service *must* be involved
        -2- That service *must* be the CIA

    A general rule of operational security is tell as few people as possible. Given the absence of sophistication, the safest route would be Zelensky’s team not sharing the details with any foreign nation. This is especially true for DC given their track record of leaks.

    If you assume a foreign service is involved, this again does not point to the U.S. The #1 provocateur at the moment is Macron. Would French intelligence be able to supply the needed support for your hypothetical? If so, that would be a straightforward logical choice.

        ♦︎ Is the CIA immoral enough to be involved? Yes.
        ♦︎ Is there any motivation for CIA involvement? No.

    Let me return to my prior point — Not-The-President Biden’s handlers are trying to prop him up for re-election. How does this help that immediate concern? It does not.

    Are you really suggesting that the CIA is undercutting the current regime, which would inevitably help Trump 2024? Both the CIA and the White House share common Deep State motivation that would keep them out of your proposed conspiracy.

    If there was foreign support, it must have been from a European Empire country, most likely France or Germany.

    PEACE 😇

  981. @LatW
    @songbird


    There’s nothing wrong with liking your own type.
     

    There is a difference between liking and admitting that someone is objectively beautiful (without feeling all that attracted to them) because beauty is universal, but racial preferences might be something that is entrenched much more deeply.

    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples. So I just wanted to guide him towards the Native Americans, whom he has never even mentioned once (and to show that I'm "not raaaaycisss").


    I can perceive the difference in head shape between NE and NW Europe
     
    I'm sure there are variations (even within the same population), but we mostly have an oval head shape. Yes, I've noticed a couple of differences as well (mostly amusing ones). :)

    It was quite a beautiful and feminine face, but just not my favored type of feminine face.
     
    I know what you mean (this has happened to me as well). There are types (and not every beautiful person is "sexy"). I think that sometimes it is also a question of "getting used to", let's say, if there is a somewhat cute person, but not super attractive, if you learn more about them and like them, then you can start liking them.

    I wonder if they shrugged off all these differences a hundred and fifty years ago or so. (I think arranged marriages were more common back then.)
     
    Yes, a lot was arranged, but it might be that there was also pairing by normal attraction, I doubt everything could be fully controlled by society. I've read that the ancient Balts used to steal wives (or pay for them) on some occasions (can't really verify this but there are a few folk songs that sound like they're alluding to this), but I doubt that every single marriage was like that. Most of them probably weren't.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples.

    I think he is trolling but also serious.

    [MORE]

    I can’t figure it out. If I really liked foreigners above my folks, am not sure I would even be in favor of it, as it is so unseemly. It’s disgusting to see people cuck, but perhaps even more disgusting to see the slave mentality present in many of the newcomers. Obviously resentful but simultaneously greedily grasping, whether high or low. And the wokeness facilitated by it – the lack of any standards. The lack of anything cohesive. It has gotten to the point where I’d almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.

    But he uses these strange buzzwords AK uses like “human capital.”. I can’t even comprehend what he means by that, beyond some IQ class. (And utu would label me an “IQist.”). An IQ class is not an argument. (Which point I think he has acknowledged, as he has acknowledged subversion, but continues to use the phrase.)

    Yes, a lot was arranged, but it might be that there was also pairing by normal attraction

    I wish I could find out more about it, but maybe arranged is too strong a word for most cases and want I want is more like “family matchmaking.”. (i.e. there was some approval involved.)

    I’ve read that the ancient Balts used to steal wives (or pay for them) on some occasions (can’t really verify this but there are a few folk songs that sound like they’re alluding to this

    Am 100% sure it happened.

    Supposedly, the abduction of women for brides still happened in remote, mountain parts of Co. Kerry, Ireland into about the 1830s or perhaps later.

    In some cases, fairly innocent and something very much like a elopement (i.e., with the connivance of the bride.), but with others assisting. I think it mainly had to do with perhaps not having much property or not getting the approval of the father. (I think he legally had to approve?)

    In other cases, more questionable. The priest would be kin of the groom. I don’t know to what extent there may have been rape, but I think it was generally a bit more like, “we will hold this woman, until her purity will be questioned and nobody else will want her.” But not something willing. And sometimes she escaped or was found.

    Have wondered if I could be descended from such unions. Guess statistically that is what one would expect

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    I think he is trolling but also serious.
     
    Yes, serious, it's an extreme position to begin with that is exacerbated by his circumstances.

    It has gotten to the point where I’d almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.
     
    I checked out from Hollywood several years ago (and even before that I didn't watch a lot, mostly watch my own stuff), watched a few Netflix series, some crime dramas and some period dramas. I haven't watched that much woke stuff (as most of it is boring), with the woke stuff I usually separate it from the rest of the content.

    But he uses these strange buzzwords AK uses like “human capital.”. I can’t even comprehend what he means by that, beyond some IQ class.
     
    Of course, it's easy to tell what they mean, IQ plus certain overly sterile behavior patterns. But that is very one sided. IQ is somewhat important but it's not everything. I also believe that people will always yearn for something more than just this cold technocratic approach. I think they want to do away with those types (e.g., people like us).

    I wish I could find out more about it, but maybe arranged is too strong a word for most cases and want I want is more like “family matchmaking.”. (i.e. there was some approval involved.)
     
    I want to learn more about it, too, there is some info out there (for when I have time, in the Baltic culture is not what we are used to today, but it's not as hostile towards the women as in other Euro cultures). I had a book about the ancient Germanic law and customs as well somewhere that I can't find now. I think there is a distorted view of this in the so called alt-right. Everyone had responsibilities.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    I can’t figure it out. If I really liked foreigners above my folks, am not sure I would even be in favor of it, as it is so unseemly. It’s disgusting to see people cuck, but perhaps even more disgusting to see the slave mentality present in many of the newcomers. Obviously resentful but simultaneously greedily grasping, whether high or low. And the wokeness facilitated by it – the lack of any standards. The lack of anything cohesive. It has gotten to the point where I’d almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.
     
    If you're curious, I actually do support teaching American Renaissance side by side in public schools with whatever crap it is that Ibram X. Kendi produces so that American students can compare and contrast the strengths and weaknesses of both of these works. I personally quite enjoy reading American Renaissance's commentary about blacks and Wokeness, but I don't find immigrants to the US and their descendants as being anywhere near as problematic on average. I do support racial/ethnic/religious profiling by law enforcement (police and airport security) because I want to save more lives, including law-abiding black lives, and based on Neven Sesardic's arguments this seems like the best way to do it.

    I'm not blindly liberal. I just support a generous immigration policy for regions outside of the Muslim world and Sub-Saharan Africa. And I support various measures to combat dysgenic fertility trends in both Western countries and the rest of the world. I like how California does liberalism, but with better law enforcement (no dumbasses like Chesa Boudin, please) and with cheaper housing prices. But then again California has relatively few blacks, which is a huge plus because it means that black crime is less of an issue over here than it is in many other parts of the US. (I oppose liberals being soft on violent criminals of any race.)

    Replies: @songbird

  982. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack. At the beginning, it appeared that chances are 50:50 that is was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists or Ukies. If it’s ISIS, it means that the CIA did it in collaboration with Mossad, as ISIS is a Mossad subsidiary (that’s why ISIS never ever attacked any Israeli targets). If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference.

    As evidence accumulates, the Islamic hypothesis looks less and less likely. One, Islamic terrorists are usually on a suicide mission, never have pre-planned escape route and never work for money. In contrast, the perps worked for money and had pre-planned escape route. Two, the perps tried to flee to Ukieland, were captured in Bryansk region. Three, the Ukie regime and its American puppeteers repeatedly denied Ukie involvement and work hard to direct the attention to ISIS. As we all know, it ain’t true unless the government denies it. What’s more, the US if often reluctant to blame ISIS (likely not to smear its Mossad overlords). This time the US government immediately suggested ISIS, which likely means that it was trying to direct the blame away from its other subsidiaries.

    Right now about ~80% of the RF residents and even greater fraction of troops on the front lines believes that this crime was ordered and organized by Ukies. Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow, @YetAnotherAnon, @Philip Owen

    “At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack.”

    How about General Mark Milley ordered it? Obviously someone else organised it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-us-planning-russia-war/

    https://archive.is/voNgX

    During one visit to Wiesbaden, Milley spoke with Ukrainian special operations troops — who were working with American Green Berets — in the hope of inspiring them ahead of operations in enemy-controlled areas.

    “There should be no Russian who goes to sleep without wondering if they’re going to get their throat slit in the middle of the night,” Milley said, according to an official with knowledge of the event. “You gotta get back there, and create a campaign behind the lines.”

  983. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    I don’t think Russia will take it out on Ukrainian civilians. That would be unpopular in the RF. In contrast, taking out the clown, Budanov, Ermak, and other major scumbags in the Ukieland would get >90% support among the RF population. Putin wants to be popular, so he is likely to go that route.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …taking out the…scumbags in the Ukieland would get >90% support

    It is not that easy, all attacks can have unpredictable results. The term ‘collateral damage’ has been rightfully mocked, but there is a kernel of truth in it. We don’t know how it will play out but it is about to get even more bloody.

  984. @songbird
    @LatW


    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples.
     
    I think he is trolling but also serious.

    I can't figure it out. If I really liked foreigners above my folks, am not sure I would even be in favor of it, as it is so unseemly. It's disgusting to see people cuck, but perhaps even more disgusting to see the slave mentality present in many of the newcomers. Obviously resentful but simultaneously greedily grasping, whether high or low. And the wokeness facilitated by it - the lack of any standards. The lack of anything cohesive. It has gotten to the point where I'd almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.

    But he uses these strange buzzwords AK uses like "human capital.". I can't even comprehend what he means by that, beyond some IQ class. (And utu would label me an "IQist."). An IQ class is not an argument. (Which point I think he has acknowledged, as he has acknowledged subversion, but continues to use the phrase.)

    Yes, a lot was arranged, but it might be that there was also pairing by normal attraction

     

    I wish I could find out more about it, but maybe arranged is too strong a word for most cases and want I want is more like "family matchmaking.". (i.e. there was some approval involved.)

     


    I’ve read that the ancient Balts used to steal wives (or pay for them) on some occasions (can’t really verify this but there are a few folk songs that sound like they’re alluding to this
     
    Am 100% sure it happened.

    Supposedly, the abduction of women for brides still happened in remote, mountain parts of Co. Kerry, Ireland into about the 1830s or perhaps later.

    In some cases, fairly innocent and something very much like a elopement (i.e., with the connivance of the bride.), but with others assisting. I think it mainly had to do with perhaps not having much property or not getting the approval of the father. (I think he legally had to approve?)

    In other cases, more questionable. The priest would be kin of the groom. I don't know to what extent there may have been rape, but I think it was generally a bit more like, "we will hold this woman, until her purity will be questioned and nobody else will want her." But not something willing. And sometimes she escaped or was found.

    Have wondered if I could be descended from such unions. Guess statistically that is what one would expect

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ

    I think he is trolling but also serious.

    Yes, serious, it’s an extreme position to begin with that is exacerbated by his circumstances.

    [MORE]

    It has gotten to the point where I’d almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.

    I checked out from Hollywood several years ago (and even before that I didn’t watch a lot, mostly watch my own stuff), watched a few Netflix series, some crime dramas and some period dramas. I haven’t watched that much woke stuff (as most of it is boring), with the woke stuff I usually separate it from the rest of the content.

    But he uses these strange buzzwords AK uses like “human capital.”. I can’t even comprehend what he means by that, beyond some IQ class.

    Of course, it’s easy to tell what they mean, IQ plus certain overly sterile behavior patterns. But that is very one sided. IQ is somewhat important but it’s not everything. I also believe that people will always yearn for something more than just this cold technocratic approach. I think they want to do away with those types (e.g., people like us).

    I wish I could find out more about it, but maybe arranged is too strong a word for most cases and want I want is more like “family matchmaking.”. (i.e. there was some approval involved.)

    I want to learn more about it, too, there is some info out there (for when I have time, in the Baltic culture is not what we are used to today, but it’s not as hostile towards the women as in other Euro cultures). I had a book about the ancient Germanic law and customs as well somewhere that I can’t find now. I think there is a distorted view of this in the so called alt-right. Everyone had responsibilities.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    Genuinely think that Mr. XYZ would enjoy living in some international cantonment or legation somewhere in the Third World, where everyone agreed to speak Esperanto, and race-mix.

    Maybe, instead of abolishing organizations like the UN and state department, they could simply be moved to some place like Somaliland, to create the necessary economic impetus to encourage others to move there.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard

  985. Have heard a lot of finger pointing but not much solid theorizing about the attack.

    [MORE]

    Am not invested in any one theory, but I think I would certainly lean towards the more prosaic explanation.

    Frankly, I don’t see how going towards Belarus would be a tell. Belarus I think would just be the most logical choice (but not necessarily best) – shortest path.

    (Am not sure waiting it out is necessarily a sound strategy as facial recognition – though I guess there could be workarounds.)

    I don’t understand this missed the turnoff thing. Why would they try to go to Ukraine and cross battle lines? Doesn’t make any sense, IMO. Though it might make sense to go to Belarus from a different direction.

    Don’t really see any good motivation for either side. Can think of specious reasons. Assassination or trying to tie down manpower or intelligence. Not saying someone can’t be motivated by that. But infrastructure seems the better target. People galvanize behind leadership after terror attacks – it is a pretty well-understood phenomenon.

    And it is ridiculous to suggest that Putin did it. He just had his election.

  986. @songbird
    @LatW


    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples.
     
    I think he is trolling but also serious.

    I can't figure it out. If I really liked foreigners above my folks, am not sure I would even be in favor of it, as it is so unseemly. It's disgusting to see people cuck, but perhaps even more disgusting to see the slave mentality present in many of the newcomers. Obviously resentful but simultaneously greedily grasping, whether high or low. And the wokeness facilitated by it - the lack of any standards. The lack of anything cohesive. It has gotten to the point where I'd almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.

    But he uses these strange buzzwords AK uses like "human capital.". I can't even comprehend what he means by that, beyond some IQ class. (And utu would label me an "IQist."). An IQ class is not an argument. (Which point I think he has acknowledged, as he has acknowledged subversion, but continues to use the phrase.)

    Yes, a lot was arranged, but it might be that there was also pairing by normal attraction

     

    I wish I could find out more about it, but maybe arranged is too strong a word for most cases and want I want is more like "family matchmaking.". (i.e. there was some approval involved.)

     


    I’ve read that the ancient Balts used to steal wives (or pay for them) on some occasions (can’t really verify this but there are a few folk songs that sound like they’re alluding to this
     
    Am 100% sure it happened.

    Supposedly, the abduction of women for brides still happened in remote, mountain parts of Co. Kerry, Ireland into about the 1830s or perhaps later.

    In some cases, fairly innocent and something very much like a elopement (i.e., with the connivance of the bride.), but with others assisting. I think it mainly had to do with perhaps not having much property or not getting the approval of the father. (I think he legally had to approve?)

    In other cases, more questionable. The priest would be kin of the groom. I don't know to what extent there may have been rape, but I think it was generally a bit more like, "we will hold this woman, until her purity will be questioned and nobody else will want her." But not something willing. And sometimes she escaped or was found.

    Have wondered if I could be descended from such unions. Guess statistically that is what one would expect

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. XYZ

    I can’t figure it out. If I really liked foreigners above my folks, am not sure I would even be in favor of it, as it is so unseemly. It’s disgusting to see people cuck, but perhaps even more disgusting to see the slave mentality present in many of the newcomers. Obviously resentful but simultaneously greedily grasping, whether high or low. And the wokeness facilitated by it – the lack of any standards. The lack of anything cohesive. It has gotten to the point where I’d almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.

    If you’re curious, I actually do support teaching American Renaissance side by side in public schools with whatever crap it is that Ibram X. Kendi produces so that American students can compare and contrast the strengths and weaknesses of both of these works. I personally quite enjoy reading American Renaissance’s commentary about blacks and Wokeness, but I don’t find immigrants to the US and their descendants as being anywhere near as problematic on average. I do support racial/ethnic/religious profiling by law enforcement (police and airport security) because I want to save more lives, including law-abiding black lives, and based on Neven Sesardic’s arguments this seems like the best way to do it.

    I’m not blindly liberal. I just support a generous immigration policy for regions outside of the Muslim world and Sub-Saharan Africa. And I support various measures to combat dysgenic fertility trends in both Western countries and the rest of the world. I like how California does liberalism, but with better law enforcement (no dumbasses like Chesa Boudin, please) and with cheaper housing prices. But then again California has relatively few blacks, which is a huge plus because it means that black crime is less of an issue over here than it is in many other parts of the US. (I oppose liberals being soft on violent criminals of any race.)

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    I just support a generous immigration policy for regions outside of the Muslim world and Sub-Saharan Africa.
     
    Why? What is the benefit and for whom? What appeals to you about it?

    I like how California does liberalism
     
    But if it is so nice, why have so many left the state? Despite it having such nice weather, and the towns not having runaway pension problems.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  987. @AP
    @Matra

    The war accelerates the trend.

    Westoids don't know this but Russia has a worker's shortage right now due to the war.
    Putin has signed "path to citizenship" laws and tried to make it appealing for central Asians to immigrate.

    He can't attack tajiks as he attacked Chechens in the 00s.



    https://twitter.com/pfizerlabrat/status/1771636981891580385?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Philip Owen

    Within days of Russia attacking Ukraine, the Saratov provincial government was discussing how to hire work brigades with Uzbekistan to cover likely labour shortages.

  988. @LatW
    @songbird


    There’s nothing wrong with liking your own type.
     

    There is a difference between liking and admitting that someone is objectively beautiful (without feeling all that attracted to them) because beauty is universal, but racial preferences might be something that is entrenched much more deeply.

    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples. So I just wanted to guide him towards the Native Americans, whom he has never even mentioned once (and to show that I'm "not raaaaycisss").


    I can perceive the difference in head shape between NE and NW Europe
     
    I'm sure there are variations (even within the same population), but we mostly have an oval head shape. Yes, I've noticed a couple of differences as well (mostly amusing ones). :)

    It was quite a beautiful and feminine face, but just not my favored type of feminine face.
     
    I know what you mean (this has happened to me as well). There are types (and not every beautiful person is "sexy"). I think that sometimes it is also a question of "getting used to", let's say, if there is a somewhat cute person, but not super attractive, if you learn more about them and like them, then you can start liking them.

    I wonder if they shrugged off all these differences a hundred and fifty years ago or so. (I think arranged marriages were more common back then.)
     
    Yes, a lot was arranged, but it might be that there was also pairing by normal attraction, I doubt everything could be fully controlled by society. I've read that the ancient Balts used to steal wives (or pay for them) on some occasions (can't really verify this but there are a few folk songs that sound like they're alluding to this), but I doubt that every single marriage was like that. Most of them probably weren't.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples. So I just wanted to guide him towards the Native Americans, whom he has never even mentioned once (and to show that I’m “not raaaaycisss”).

    I lived in the US for 23 years by this point in time. Does that mean nothing? I wish that I was born here, frankly, but I can’t control where I was born.

    And TBF if the EU really wants to become a white ethno-state (or a white confederation), such as if nationalists will come to power there in the big countries (not just in small countries like Hungary), then so be it. It could become a white Christian European version of what Israel or India are for Jews and Hindus, respectively. Though it should then expand into the East Slavic lands once they will hopefully eventually liberalize and democratize.

    But I stand by what I said about the success of immigrant assimilation in the Anglosphere, other than of course high housing prices in certain places and certain bad apples (radical Muslims and violent blacks are the two biggest ones that come to mind). Immigrant assimilation in continental Europe has been less than stellar, to put it extremely mildly (a lot of radical Muslims is a huge issue there), though Israel has been very successful in assimilating immigrants of Jewish descent even if they are not halakhically Jewish.

    I feel sad for what the Native Americans endured and I wish that the Spanish model would have been adopted in what is now the US as well. I mean with better treatment of Native Americans–not so much with massive Native American-white intermarriage, since there were likely too few Native Americans north of Mexico to ever actually make that feasible. Pennsylvania is a good model for what was possible for Anglos with Native Americans had Anglos consistently been more decent and scrupulous.

    Out of curiosity, LatW: You don’t miss your own country’s historical Jewish and German populations at all? You don’t think that Latvia was a better, more cosmopolitan place back when they were still there, in Latvia? Places like Transylvania, Bukovina, the Banat, and Vojvodina also used to be much more cosmopolitan.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    You don’t miss your own country’s historical Jewish and German populations at all? You don’t think that Latvia was a better, more cosmopolitan place back when they were still there, in Latvia?
     
    Well, it is a loss, but by mid 1930s it wasn't all that cosmopolitan actually. These were not such big percentages of population. I appreciate the Germans and the Jews (many of our Jews were quite cool, except the ones that sided with our enemy, the Soviet Jews are more problematic as they are very different from our Jews), but I prefer the way it is now (minus Soviet colonization). I miss the Latvian population that was exiled and I miss the Old Prussian people most of all. Yes, I miss the 1930s very much. Overall, I miss the Iron Age, Livonia, the 1930s and the 1980s, those are great periods.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  989. @Dmitry
    @Coconuts


    Dutch the opposite is the case which makes it interesting.

     

    I don't know about the topic. I would guess modern Dutch people would be more related to populations of the regions of England, which are generally higher socioeconomic level today? The earliest settlement zone of the Dutch/English common ancestors was South England.

    https://i.imgur.com/PvK3JTO.png

    Then in the 5-7th century, larger modern area of Netherlands were settled by Angles' and Saxons' populations.


    who came to protect the English middle classes (it’s often described in this way).

     

    In the caste-system of England, even in the 20th century, a lot of the "brahmin families" were still descended from some medieval Norman mafia clans.

    Normans were mainly interested in mafia things and didn't have a strong culture identity, so they almost dissolved into Ireland or Italy.

    In England, their ancestors still were continuing as large part of the elite for almost one thousand years.

    Ancestors of Oswald Mosley, politician who was supporter of Mussolini and Hitler in the 1930s, have this name, "Ernald de Mosley (fl. 12th century), Lord of the Manor of Moseley, Staffordshire, during the reign of King John."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

    Wife of Oswald Mosley, who was a supporter of Trotsky in the 1930s, was called "Curzon" from the village of Courson in Normandy, France.

    Some descendant Normans live in their ancestors' fortified mafia house for 900 years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazlewood_Castle


    Nowadays the same time of people will probably find Orthodox
     
    Those middle class demographics today don't usually go to religions from a different historical epoch, which already died 2-3 centuries ago for educated people. But, maybe middle class people aren't completely different today.


    For urban middle class, crossfit, keto-genic diets, marathon running. Probably, today Calvin's life style recommendation will seem moderate, when we could evaluation them in relation to some of the middle class peoples' fashions.


    Huguenots occupied NCO and junior officer ranks in the French army before 1685, when Louis XIV started to expel them they joined the Dutch and English armies where they were useful to William in the 9 Years War and in Ireland
     
    I was reading maybe the same article. https://ugp.rug.nl/groniek/article/download/30221/27521/36048

    Replies: @songbird, @Philip Owen

    The modern Netherlands was depopulated during post Roman times. It was repopulated in the Middle Ages by emigration from Flanders. HBD Chick did some research on this.

    Anyway, the North Sea was a connector for all the coastal nations right up to the Hanseatic League.

  990. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Are you sure about that? Their Jewish-owned media could warm them up to this idea, no?
     
    This is highly speculative. You assume it would've been some Weimar republic, when it just as well could've turned into a more or less mild autocracy similar to the 1930s wave in Europe. You like to speak as if the Jews are omnipotent. There was an awareness of Jewishness (even before 1991). You have no idea to what extent it would have been accepted and how deep they would be allowed to go. Jews often have to play along with the majority at least to some extent (in that region).


    Maybe your dad didn't want to (I don't really blame him). Some of those others who tried ended up having crazy biographies.

    And it would be politically difficult for a liberal democratic Russian government to impose internal migration restrictions like both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks did.
     
    Why do you assume it would be a "liberal democracy"? In Russia, haha? When even in the rest of Europe there wasn't? Or in those places where there was, it was still conservative? You are quite a dreamer.

    A lot of white people in the Northern US didn’t like the fact that African-Americans from the Southern US were moving into their states and cities
     
    There are still parts of the US where blacks do not live together with Whites. There is self-segregation. This issue is touchy and somewhat specific to America, so I'm not sure this is a good comparison to Russia.

    Even formerly heavily Catholic Ireland has degenerated in spite of it being a former colonial victim rather than a former colonial power. Would Russia really be different?
     
    This is very recent, same as in Finland. Finland was completely pure until very recently. There is something else going on, possibly economic. With a solid Slavic dominance, the way that was still there in the 1980s, those lands would have stayed predominantly Slavic. They would have only had to secure themselves economically to maintain the birth rate. Birth rate depended on confidence in the future - that could've been arranged without immigrants.

    Russia’s presence in Siberia and the Far East is only a couple of centuries long or less. Siberia became Russian in the 1600s, the Russian Far East in the 1800s.
     
    Those are colonized lands (and remain colonies still to this day, as they are being heavily extracted). I was talking about the Slavic (and Finnic) homelands.

    And Western Europeans have also invited a lot of non-Europeans into their own countries even though Western Europeans have lived in their own countries for an extremely long period of time.

     

    The assimilation in Western Europe seems slower than in America. I think that America also accepts more people from Asia than W.Europe (such as Chinese and Indians).


    Do you view Latin Americans and Asians in the US as beautiful?
     
    I wasn't talking about the actual people not being beautiful, but your delusional picture of a race mixed society as something being by default beautiful. Yes, racial harmony might be beautiful, but so is homogeneity and a natural existence of a tribe and a society. Do I view individual people from those groups you mention as beautiful? I love people so I do see beauty in them internal and on the outside, you have to love the human being, and that's where the beauty lies. Same as you love an older person or a child because you see the intrinsic beauty in them. Every human being was put on this planet by Nature in the form that they come in. You love and accept and appreciate what has been laid out by Nature. But if you're asking purely based on a personal sense of aesthetics, then I consider the people I grew up with as more beautiful. Beauty is universal though. Every group has it to some extent.

    I find Mayan women interesting based purely on their "ancient" features, even if I tower over them, they do have good, strong hair. Who am I to judge them? And I find certain things that Asian people do beautiful, sometimes their demeanor, and even some individuals. Mayans lived closer to this continent than Europeans, and Samoans do, too. It doesn't mean they are fully entitled to it, as they still have their own ancestral lands. Some Samoans can be rather beautiful, some men. Many Native Americans I find beautiful (and even graceful sometimes).

    So? That doesn't mean you have to promote artificially mixed societies.

    I suspect that in a liberal, democratic, and free Russia, Central Asians and others would have went to where the good jobs were.
     
    Well, that's what they have now. Most of them are good workers and are peaceful, however, with the scale of immigration and the sheer numbers which are bigger than we even know - not everything will be ideal. If there is conflict or a crisis, these differences will be exacerbated. There have always been ethnic mafias in Russia. Caucasian groups are quite virile, they would be intimidating for someone like yourself - no offense, since they are Muslim on top of it.

    Above all - it is somewhat undemocratic, because nobody asks the populace if this is ok. And they're going to try to pull the same thing in the rest of Eastern Europe. Without a democratic mandate (read: against the will of the majority). You keep posing as some big democrat and liberal - how is this democratic?

    That said, I'd say things in America seem to be worse than in RusFed. In RusFed, these nationalities seem to be arriving from the former colonies that are relatively near by and where there has been some prior cultural exchange. But in America the new arrivals are Somalis, and others from very distant cultures that have no connection to the US main culture at all.

    Russian Orthodoxy nowadays I suspect is largely fake other than among the elderly and Russian diaspora, no?
     
    You can't look into a person's heart. A lot of it is obviously fake, but many of them are real.

    Religion is a private matter that shouldn't be flaunted left and right as is often done these days. Much less used for political purposes. (Unless it is Euro paganism, hehe).

    And technically speaking, a non-Bolshevik Russia would have likely kept Central Asia up to the present-day. It would have all been a part of one great big country in the form of Greater Russia.

     

    You're assuming that only the Slavs would secularize in such a large common economic project and not Central Asians. Yea, right, the Central Asians would arrive into Slavic economies and stay traditional forever? The ones who arrive are often atomized.

    Yep, which indicates that radical Islam is a very serious problem in general, not just limited to Western Muslims or to Muslims back in their own home countries.
     
    On an ideological level, radical Islam has quite a few pluses but it should stay in the home countries. When they try to sit on two chairs by taking up the Euro space and maintaining their religion which is contemptuous of Europe, then that's a problem.

    The war in Ukraine really is a huge tragedy.
     
    It is the worst thing ever, but not only that - it might turn into something unexpected (for those who masterminded it). It is far from over.

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    This is highly speculative. You assume it would’ve been some Weimar republic, when it just as well could’ve turned into a more or less mild autocracy similar to the 1930s wave in Europe. You like to speak as if the Jews are omnipotent. There was an awareness of Jewishness (even before 1991). You have no idea to what extent it would have been accepted and how deep they would be allowed to go. Jews often have to play along with the majority at least to some extent (in that region).

    Russia could have certainly eventually become a right-wing dictatorship, but it could have also been followed by eventual liberalization as in Spain, Portugal, Latin America, et cetera.

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    Maybe your dad didn’t want to (I don’t really blame him). Some of those others who tried ended up having crazy biographies.

    My parents were afraid of another, more successful coup attempt in the USSR/Russia at some future point in time after the unsuccessful August 1991 coup attempt. It was this attempt that sealed their decision to emigrate from Russia. They also feared an ex-USSR Yugoslavia situation sooner or later, and they were right about this, slightly over 30 years later.

    Why do you assume it would be a “liberal democracy”? In Russia, haha? When even in the rest of Europe there wasn’t? Or in those places where there was, it was still conservative? You are quite a dreamer.

    It would have likely become a liberal democracy once liberalization would have eventually occurred (if there would have been a right-wing dictatorship in the meantime). Are Spain, Portugal, and some Latin American countries (not El Salvador, though!) not liberal democracies today?

    There are still parts of the US where blacks do not live together with Whites. There is self-segregation. This issue is touchy and somewhat specific to America, so I’m not sure this is a good comparison to Russia.

    Well, Yeah, until 1948 (when the US Supreme Court unanimously struck them down as unconstitutional), racially restrictive housing covenants were a huge thing in the US, including in the Northern US. After 1948, blacks could move into white neighborhoods, but then after the race riots of the 1960s, whites fled from these neighborhoods en masse into the suburbs, followed by middle-class blacks fleeing from these neighborhoods into the suburbs, thus leaving primarily the ghetto blacks in these neighborhoods, which explains why exactly they are so dumpy today.

    But my overall point here is that even before 1948, whites could only keep blacks out of certain neighborhoods, not out of entire cities, let alone out of entire US states. Internal freedom of movement was a respected constitutional right for all US citizens even back then, even for all black US citizens.

    Nowadays in the US there is no law or even any private agreements prohibiting people from certain races from living in certain neighborhoods, but whites and others generally don’t want to live next to ghetto blacks and thus either flee en masse if their neighborhood becomes too ghetto or else use less questionable means, such as preventing convicted felons from moving into their neighborhoods, to keep their neighborhoods safe.

    This is very recent, same as in Finland. Finland was completely pure until very recently. There is something else going on, possibly economic. With a solid Slavic dominance, the way that was still there in the 1980s, those lands would have stayed predominantly Slavic. They would have only had to secure themselves economically to maintain the birth rate. Birth rate depended on confidence in the future – that could’ve been arranged without immigrants.

    What would you see Russia’s total fertility rate as being in this scenario? I mean for Slavs only (not including Muslims).

    Those are colonized lands (and remain colonies still to this day, as they are being heavily extracted). I was talking about the Slavic (and Finnic) homelands.

    Fair enough, I suppose.

    The assimilation in Western Europe seems slower than in America. I think that America also accepts more people from Asia than W.Europe (such as Chinese and Indians).

    Yes, with Western Europe, the issue is that Muslims are just more difficult to assimilate in general, especially working-class Muslims:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/02/fiscal-impact-of-immigrants-by-country-of-origin/

    I wasn’t talking about the actual people not being beautiful, but your delusional picture of a race mixed society as something being by default beautiful. Yes, racial harmony might be beautiful, but so is homogeneity and a natural existence of a tribe and a society. Do I view individual people from those groups you mention as beautiful? I love people so I do see beauty in them internal and on the outside, you have to love the human being, and that’s where the beauty lies. Same as you love an older person or a child because you see the intrinsic beauty in them. Every human being was put on this planet by Nature in the form that they come in. You love and accept and appreciate what has been laid out by Nature. But if you’re asking purely based on a personal sense of aesthetics, then I consider the people I grew up with as more beautiful. Beauty is universal though. Every group has it to some extent.

    I find Mayan women interesting based purely on their “ancient” features, even if I tower over them, they do have good, strong hair. Who am I to judge them? And I find certain things that Asian people do beautiful, sometimes their demeanor, and even some individuals. Mayans lived closer to this continent than Europeans, and Samoans do, too. It doesn’t mean they are fully entitled to it, as they still have their own ancestral lands. Some Samoans can be rather beautiful, some men. Many Native Americans I find beautiful (and even graceful sometimes).

    So? That doesn’t mean you have to promote artificially mixed societies.

    Haven’t artificially mixed societies existed for a long time by now, though? Look at the Roman Empire, for instance. It involved ruling over many different peoples. Or would you say that this was different since people back then generally did not travel outside of their regions of birth?

    Anyway, whether a society should be mixed or not should depend on the preferences of its own people. Though even with a mixed society, pan-enclavism is still possible:

    https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism

    Well, that’s what they have now. Most of them are good workers and are peaceful, however, with the scale of immigration and the sheer numbers which are bigger than we even know – not everything will be ideal. If there is conflict or a crisis, these differences will be exacerbated. There have always been ethnic mafias in Russia. Caucasian groups are quite virile, they would be intimidating for someone like yourself – no offense, since they are Muslim on top of it.

    Well, the Georgian and Armenian mafias aren’t Muslim. But why exactly should mobsters be given free rein to operate in their adoptive countries instead of having them be deported?

    Above all – it is somewhat undemocratic, because nobody asks the populace if this is ok. And they’re going to try to pull the same thing in the rest of Eastern Europe. Without a democratic mandate (read: against the will of the majority). You keep posing as some big democrat and liberal – how is this democratic?

    By all means, if you want to have the people vote on immigration, be my guest.

    That said, though, public trends in the US have been shifting in a more and more pro-immigration direction over the last 30 years, only with a slight decline over the last couple of years due to the unusually high immigration levels that we are currently getting:

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1660/immigration.aspx

    As the older generations will pass away and the younger generations will replace them, the US should become more and more pro-immigration. But I’m much less sure about Europe.

    That said, I’d say things in America seem to be worse than in RusFed. In RusFed, these nationalities seem to be arriving from the former colonies that are relatively near by and where there has been some prior cultural exchange. But in America the new arrivals are Somalis, and others from very distant cultures that have no connection to the US main culture at all.

    A lot of the US’s arrivals are Latin Americans and Asians, who are both easier to assimilate. But with Somalis, Yeah, honestly I would be more wary of accepting them, unless of course they are passionately pro-American like this Somali guy is:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30537090
    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/10/618263088/somali-refugee-abdi-nor-iftin-i-am-here-to-make-america-great
    https://time.com/5316584/world-refugee-day-visa-lottery-donald-trump-immigration/

    I’d gladly welcome more Somalis like him! (Honestly, I’d be happy to have Israel welcome more Africans like him as well just so long as they will sincerely convert to Judaism, which is likely a non-starter for Muslim Africans but could be more viable for Christian Africans.)

    You can’t look into a person’s heart. A lot of it is obviously fake, but many of them are real.

    Religion is a private matter that shouldn’t be flaunted left and right as is often done these days. Much less used for political purposes. (Unless it is Euro paganism, hehe).

    Thanks. And Yes, Euro pagans and Wiccans for the win! 😉

    You’re assuming that only the Slavs would secularize in such a large common economic project and not Central Asians. Yea, right, the Central Asians would arrive into Slavic economies and stay traditional forever? The ones who arrive are often atomized.

    Where exactly did I ever say that the Central Asians who would have moved to Russia’s East Slavic heartland would not have secularized?

    On an ideological level, radical Islam has quite a few pluses but it should stay in the home countries. When they try to sit on two chairs by taking up the Euro space and maintaining their religion which is contemptuous of Europe, then that’s a problem.

    Agreed. I’ve heard a statement that Muslims mostly care about minority rights when they themselves are minorities. When they themselves are majorities, they often care much less for minority rights.

    It is the worst thing ever, but not only that – it might turn into something unexpected (for those who masterminded it). It is far from over.

    A successful color revolution in Russia itself? A Moscow Maidan? If so, then this would certainly be a huge victory for both the West and the Russian people themselves.

  991. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    I just felt like trolling XYZ, it ticks me off when a Russian Jew who really has no native connection to either the US or the EU (but only to Russia and Israel), goes on and on about how these places should be swamped with exotic peoples. So I just wanted to guide him towards the Native Americans, whom he has never even mentioned once (and to show that I’m “not raaaaycisss”).
     
    I lived in the US for 23 years by this point in time. Does that mean nothing? I wish that I was born here, frankly, but I can't control where I was born.

    And TBF if the EU really wants to become a white ethno-state (or a white confederation), such as if nationalists will come to power there in the big countries (not just in small countries like Hungary), then so be it. It could become a white Christian European version of what Israel or India are for Jews and Hindus, respectively. Though it should then expand into the East Slavic lands once they will hopefully eventually liberalize and democratize.

    But I stand by what I said about the success of immigrant assimilation in the Anglosphere, other than of course high housing prices in certain places and certain bad apples (radical Muslims and violent blacks are the two biggest ones that come to mind). Immigrant assimilation in continental Europe has been less than stellar, to put it extremely mildly (a lot of radical Muslims is a huge issue there), though Israel has been very successful in assimilating immigrants of Jewish descent even if they are not halakhically Jewish.

    I feel sad for what the Native Americans endured and I wish that the Spanish model would have been adopted in what is now the US as well. I mean with better treatment of Native Americans--not so much with massive Native American-white intermarriage, since there were likely too few Native Americans north of Mexico to ever actually make that feasible. Pennsylvania is a good model for what was possible for Anglos with Native Americans had Anglos consistently been more decent and scrupulous.

    Out of curiosity, LatW: You don't miss your own country's historical Jewish and German populations at all? You don't think that Latvia was a better, more cosmopolitan place back when they were still there, in Latvia? Places like Transylvania, Bukovina, the Banat, and Vojvodina also used to be much more cosmopolitan.

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    You don’t miss your own country’s historical Jewish and German populations at all? You don’t think that Latvia was a better, more cosmopolitan place back when they were still there, in Latvia?

    Well, it is a loss, but by mid 1930s it wasn’t all that cosmopolitan actually. These were not such big percentages of population. I appreciate the Germans and the Jews (many of our Jews were quite cool, except the ones that sided with our enemy, the Soviet Jews are more problematic as they are very different from our Jews), but I prefer the way it is now (minus Soviet colonization). I miss the Latvian population that was exiled and I miss the Old Prussian people most of all. Yes, I miss the 1930s very much. Overall, I miss the Iron Age, Livonia, the 1930s and the 1980s, those are great periods.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    The Soviet Jews simply had more time for Communism to corrupt them. Interestingly enough, my own Jewish paternal great-grandfather only became a Soviet Jew instead of a Polish Jew because apparently (based on what I've been told, numerous times) the Bolsheviks took him as a prisoner of war (and/or kidnapped him) from the Sarny area during the Polish-Soviet War as they were retreating because they needed more literate people and he was literate. He got separated from his parents and siblings that way, only to reunite with them in a visit in 1939 (or 1940), after the USSR conquered eastern Poland, only to subsequently lose most of them in the Holocaust shortly afterwards.

    You should actively reinvigorate your colonization program for Latvians in other ex-USSR countries. One Latvian grandparent or more should be good enough if I was designing this program.

    The Old Prussians never disappeared genetically; they only disappeared as a nation. They were absorbed into the population of ethnic German colonists who moved into East Prussia after the Teutonic Knights' conquest of East Prussia, to my knowledge. Their genes are very likely still present in those parts of Germany where East Prussians fled to in 1945.

    Interestingly enough, Eastern Europe also has a long historical experience with Indians, but unfortunately only with some of their most dysfunctional members, specifically the Roma.

    Replies: @LatW

  992. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    You don’t miss your own country’s historical Jewish and German populations at all? You don’t think that Latvia was a better, more cosmopolitan place back when they were still there, in Latvia?
     
    Well, it is a loss, but by mid 1930s it wasn't all that cosmopolitan actually. These were not such big percentages of population. I appreciate the Germans and the Jews (many of our Jews were quite cool, except the ones that sided with our enemy, the Soviet Jews are more problematic as they are very different from our Jews), but I prefer the way it is now (minus Soviet colonization). I miss the Latvian population that was exiled and I miss the Old Prussian people most of all. Yes, I miss the 1930s very much. Overall, I miss the Iron Age, Livonia, the 1930s and the 1980s, those are great periods.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    The Soviet Jews simply had more time for Communism to corrupt them. Interestingly enough, my own Jewish paternal great-grandfather only became a Soviet Jew instead of a Polish Jew because apparently (based on what I’ve been told, numerous times) the Bolsheviks took him as a prisoner of war (and/or kidnapped him) from the Sarny area during the Polish-Soviet War as they were retreating because they needed more literate people and he was literate. He got separated from his parents and siblings that way, only to reunite with them in a visit in 1939 (or 1940), after the USSR conquered eastern Poland, only to subsequently lose most of them in the Holocaust shortly afterwards.

    You should actively reinvigorate your colonization program for Latvians in other ex-USSR countries. One Latvian grandparent or more should be good enough if I was designing this program.

    The Old Prussians never disappeared genetically; they only disappeared as a nation. They were absorbed into the population of ethnic German colonists who moved into East Prussia after the Teutonic Knights’ conquest of East Prussia, to my knowledge. Their genes are very likely still present in those parts of Germany where East Prussians fled to in 1945.

    Interestingly enough, Eastern Europe also has a long historical experience with Indians, but unfortunately only with some of their most dysfunctional members, specifically the Roma.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    paternal great-grandfather
     
    So sorry to hear about that, he must have been a strong person then to go through all of that and still have a family of his own, you must feel really grateful, btw, many Jews left the Baltic states already during WW1 (and of course there were many Baltic refugees as well). To think about it, so many people from our region have been displaced against their will..

    The Old Prussians never disappeared genetically; they only disappeared as a nation. They were absorbed into the population of ethnic German colonists who moved into East Prussia after the Teutonic Knights’ conquest of East Prussia, to my knowledge. Their genes are very likely still present in those parts of Germany where East Prussians fled to in 1945.
     
    Of course, I'm well aware of this, I'm in conversation with a few of them. They were absorbed by Lithuanians and partly northern Poles. Some might be in Belarus and Russia. Some migrated away to the West together with the German population after 1945. Some of the orphans in the 1945 went to Lithuania and were adopted by Lithuanians.

    My parents were afraid of another, more successful coup attempt in the USSR/Russia at some future point in time after the unsuccessful August 1991 coup attempt. It was this attempt that sealed their decision to emigrate from Russia.
     
    That was a very, very scary moment. Although for some reason my parents didn't seem that scared. There was some unity in our camp. But maybe they were too careless. Then again what does one gain by succumbing to fear?

    What would you see Russia’s total fertility rate as being in this scenario? I mean for Slavs only (not including Muslims).
     
    Not being an expert on this, I would guess that the quotient would be something like 1,7-2+. The truth is is that fertility had fallen in the 1970s and then it went up again in the 1980s - either due to the prohibition or higher oil prices or some other psychological boost so if this type of a boost were to be maintained, the number would be relatively healthy and stable, it wouldn't be high, but it wouldn't be low either.

    A successful color revolution in Russia itself? A Moscow Maidan?
     
    I doubt a color revolution is possible or all that likely. More likely would be a kind of a chaotization as the war drags on and then a war over the resources by various factions. This is probably the worst case scenario and may not necessarily come to pass, but at this point, if things continue this way and even if there is a large offensive that's not all that successful, then this shouldn't be excluded.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  993. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    I can’t figure it out. If I really liked foreigners above my folks, am not sure I would even be in favor of it, as it is so unseemly. It’s disgusting to see people cuck, but perhaps even more disgusting to see the slave mentality present in many of the newcomers. Obviously resentful but simultaneously greedily grasping, whether high or low. And the wokeness facilitated by it – the lack of any standards. The lack of anything cohesive. It has gotten to the point where I’d almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.
     
    If you're curious, I actually do support teaching American Renaissance side by side in public schools with whatever crap it is that Ibram X. Kendi produces so that American students can compare and contrast the strengths and weaknesses of both of these works. I personally quite enjoy reading American Renaissance's commentary about blacks and Wokeness, but I don't find immigrants to the US and their descendants as being anywhere near as problematic on average. I do support racial/ethnic/religious profiling by law enforcement (police and airport security) because I want to save more lives, including law-abiding black lives, and based on Neven Sesardic's arguments this seems like the best way to do it.

    I'm not blindly liberal. I just support a generous immigration policy for regions outside of the Muslim world and Sub-Saharan Africa. And I support various measures to combat dysgenic fertility trends in both Western countries and the rest of the world. I like how California does liberalism, but with better law enforcement (no dumbasses like Chesa Boudin, please) and with cheaper housing prices. But then again California has relatively few blacks, which is a huge plus because it means that black crime is less of an issue over here than it is in many other parts of the US. (I oppose liberals being soft on violent criminals of any race.)

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    I just support a generous immigration policy for regions outside of the Muslim world and Sub-Saharan Africa.

    Why? What is the benefit and for whom? What appeals to you about it?

    I like how California does liberalism

    But if it is so nice, why have so many left the state? Despite it having such nice weather, and the towns not having runaway pension problems.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    Why? What is the benefit and for whom? What appeals to you about it?

     

    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan and also scooping up much more of the world's cognitive elites while we're at it. Acquiring the world's cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no? Unless they do regular hospital work in ghetto areas or whatever.

    Interestingly enough, there is a good defense of genetic interests here:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/03/adding-genetic-interests-to-utilitarianism/

    This is a pretty good reason to admit Europeans and part-Europeans who identify with European and/or Western culture, no?

    But if it is so nice, why have so many left the state? Despite it having such nice weather, and the towns not having runaway pension problems.

     

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?

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  994. @LatW
    @songbird


    I think he is trolling but also serious.
     
    Yes, serious, it's an extreme position to begin with that is exacerbated by his circumstances.

    It has gotten to the point where I’d almost rather watch a movie from any country than Hollywood.
     
    I checked out from Hollywood several years ago (and even before that I didn't watch a lot, mostly watch my own stuff), watched a few Netflix series, some crime dramas and some period dramas. I haven't watched that much woke stuff (as most of it is boring), with the woke stuff I usually separate it from the rest of the content.

    But he uses these strange buzzwords AK uses like “human capital.”. I can’t even comprehend what he means by that, beyond some IQ class.
     
    Of course, it's easy to tell what they mean, IQ plus certain overly sterile behavior patterns. But that is very one sided. IQ is somewhat important but it's not everything. I also believe that people will always yearn for something more than just this cold technocratic approach. I think they want to do away with those types (e.g., people like us).

    I wish I could find out more about it, but maybe arranged is too strong a word for most cases and want I want is more like “family matchmaking.”. (i.e. there was some approval involved.)
     
    I want to learn more about it, too, there is some info out there (for when I have time, in the Baltic culture is not what we are used to today, but it's not as hostile towards the women as in other Euro cultures). I had a book about the ancient Germanic law and customs as well somewhere that I can't find now. I think there is a distorted view of this in the so called alt-right. Everyone had responsibilities.

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    Genuinely think that Mr. XYZ would enjoy living in some international cantonment or legation somewhere in the Third World, where everyone agreed to speak Esperanto, and race-mix.

    Maybe, instead of abolishing organizations like the UN and state department, they could simply be moved to some place like Somaliland, to create the necessary economic impetus to encourage others to move there.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Why not 1930 Bukovina if the Holocaust is avoided? Seriously:

    https://bukovinasociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/BSA.Image_Map_Bukovina_Ethnic_Distribution_1930-scaled.jpg

    Or the 1910 Banat if WWI is avoided?

    https://i.redd.it/idkt68dzcdk91.png

    Perhaps some German city decades after a German WWI victory and Germany opens its doors wide open to Central and Eastern European immigration from Mitteleuropa?

    Or perhaps even pre-WWI New York City?

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5bc96864c2ff6137d020199c/1608216035862-O2GJL575ERWZDI4SOMAZ/manhattan+Lusk+map+crop.png

    But the contemporary Los Angeles metropolitan area (which is where I currently live in real life) is also great, other than the extremely high housing prices there.

    BTW, I'm actually ambivalent about race mixing. I mean, I think that having ghetto black and Hispanic women use white sperm instead of ghetto black and Hispanic sperm would be a good idea. It would produce not only smarter but also more beautiful children for them. But I'm also glad that most whites still prefer to marry other whites even after over half a century of interracial marriage rightfully being legal throughout the entire US. Whites are the most beautiful people in the world, after all, and possibly the most accomplished people in the world as well (at least in a total sense; per capita, Ashkenazi Jews would very likely win).

    , @LatW
    @songbird


    Maybe, instead of abolishing organizations like the UN and state department, they could simply be moved to some place like Somaliland, to create the necessary economic impetus to encourage others to move there.
     
    That's right, put the meaning back into the word "serve". They have to do a hardship post anyway. Except it would be permanent. LOL Oh gosh, songbird, you're a bit cruel, first it's Tattooine, and now permanent deployment in Somaliland. Well, at least their per diems would go a long way. :)
    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Haiti.

    Did you pitch your 8 bucks into the dune 2 haul? The movie is supposed to be fabulous but I'm guessing no way.

    Replies: @songbird

  995. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    I just support a generous immigration policy for regions outside of the Muslim world and Sub-Saharan Africa.
     
    Why? What is the benefit and for whom? What appeals to you about it?

    I like how California does liberalism
     
    But if it is so nice, why have so many left the state? Despite it having such nice weather, and the towns not having runaway pension problems.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Why? What is the benefit and for whom? What appeals to you about it?

    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan and also scooping up much more of the world’s cognitive elites while we’re at it. Acquiring the world’s cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no? Unless they do regular hospital work in ghetto areas or whatever.

    Interestingly enough, there is a good defense of genetic interests here:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/03/adding-genetic-interests-to-utilitarianism/

    This is a pretty good reason to admit Europeans and part-Europeans who identify with European and/or Western culture, no?

    But if it is so nice, why have so many left the state? Despite it having such nice weather, and the towns not having runaway pension problems.

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan and also scooping up much more of the world’s cognitive elites while we’re at it
     
    This is a harmful proposition for everyone:

    • Recipient countries suffer brutal wage/salary suppression among groups targeted for Great Replacement (a.k.a. scooping up)

    • Donor countries suffer vicious brain drain as potential leaders depart. Worse yet, if large numbers of young adults leave, it impacts family formation, child birth, and TFR.

    Stable countries need to restrict both immigration and off shoring. Blue, pink, and, white collar workers need to earn enough money to generate stable families. Societal problems became vastly worse when wage suppression involuntary forced two income families.

    Cultural cohesion requires assimilation. America needs to take a 20 year pause to fully integrate the people we have now.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhbjSIktrNIfOxjDre1BQEHHzniO_3F9VaiKLisVwQAq4pH9O4HZKNyVta3y350fdSGxJQsnJ9_6O0b14S36Jk0jGzZh7Ldi97u76ismkZEteCqla58StzdMEtasSkS63KPxkCVTWSiqe-mnjhLgIdbd1dOIic9D0L5Hd034aD_cOrXWab-p-KHeAN10Gx-/s474/90milesadda1ee2590e9f1a8aec1a96333dd55d_52c612c2_500.jpg

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    , @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan
     
    what do you mean by this specifically? How much more cosmopolitan can we get?

    Acquiring the world’s cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no?
     
    I am inclined to think no.

    I don't think that the US is optimal at utilizing "human capital." This is the center of DIE. It's the place where enormous sums are transferred to unproductive ends. Where it is basically illegal to test for IQ directly, and where lawfare reigns supreme. Where the super-woke Google gemini was created. Where we warehouse vast numbers of people in both prisons and schools.

    There are many alternatives to a woke IQ-shredder. I thought the internet was created to let smart people communicate the world over? And it would seem possible to create international cities in other places, rather than transforming whole countries for some vague economic ends.

    Besides I don't think that there is a single country that has pursued this idea of granting citizenship to vast numbers of people, which has not become open to all in an obviously unsustainable manner.

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?
     
    Isn't this intrinsically tied to immigration?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry, @Mr. XYZ

  996. @Matra
    Russian nationalists have been complaining for the last year or so about the flood of Muslims from places like Tajikistan into Russia. They've compared it to Merkel in 2015, but apparently Russian media hides this from the public just like their counterparts in the West. Putin's libtard immigration policies have already led to a massive rise in violent crime against ethnic Russians, now an all too predictable terrorist attack. Liberalism is mass suicide.

    Replies: @AP, @Dmitry, @AP, @John Johnson

    Oh gosh don’t talk about that here.

    The Tucker following boomers will throw a tizzy over ruining their childish fantasy of Russia as a tradcon state.

    They really don’t like videos like this one:

    That is Moscow and not the middle east.

    The Fox zombots will get even more upset if you point out how the Orthodox Slavs are in decline while the Russian Muslims have an expanding population.

    Goes against the narrative of their dwarf hero somehow saving the West by killing Slavs.

    Dwarf lovers also believe that the Jews are the cause of the invasion and Putin is somehow sticking it to them by being a major supplier of oil and diamonds to Israel. Does that make any sense? Of course not but they’ll revert to their #1 counter-argument:
    U MUST BE A JEW!!!!!!

    I found the ultimate video that pisses them off. It’s Putin at the world holocaust forum with his pal Netenayhu:

    Look at those globalist pals sitting together.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @John Johnson


    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1771527916611834270

    , @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    Zelensky, the "inveterate Jew hater" according to our resident expert on such matters kremlinstoogeA123, also attended the world holocaust forum in 2019. Here's what he was quoted as saying there:


    “The Jews managed to build a country, to elevate it, without anything except people and brains,” Zelensky, an actor who was elected in May, told The Times of Israel. “The Jewish people in Israel is a unique people, a unique population. It has economic strength. There are many countries in the world that can protect themselves, but Israel, such a small country, can not only protect itself, but facing external threats, can respond.” Despite “being under the threat of war, they enjoy every day,” Zelensky added. “I’ve seen it.” Zelensky said he visited Israel many times when he was an actor.
    “I have relatives there — an aunt of my mother, and her relatives. They moved to Israel, some of them, about 10-15 years ago. Maybe longer. At the end of the ’90s,” he told The Times of Israel. “So I was in Israel many times. For meetings, business meetings, TV meetings and concerts — in my previous life.” Asked whether he did comedy there, Zelensky answered: “Yes. In Tel Aviv, in Beersheva, in Haifa, in Jerusalem. In so many cities. So I know Israel. I know people there.”
     
    So much for the crazy BS that kremlinstoogeA123 is prone to try and spread about Zelensky at this blog site.

    https://www.jta.org/2020/01/21/global/ukraines-jewish-president-heaps-praise-on-israel-in-pre-visit-interview

    Replies: @John Johnson

  997. @songbird
    @LatW

    Genuinely think that Mr. XYZ would enjoy living in some international cantonment or legation somewhere in the Third World, where everyone agreed to speak Esperanto, and race-mix.

    Maybe, instead of abolishing organizations like the UN and state department, they could simply be moved to some place like Somaliland, to create the necessary economic impetus to encourage others to move there.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Why not 1930 Bukovina if the Holocaust is avoided? Seriously:

    Or the 1910 Banat if WWI is avoided?

    Perhaps some German city decades after a German WWI victory and Germany opens its doors wide open to Central and Eastern European immigration from Mitteleuropa?

    Or perhaps even pre-WWI New York City?

    But the contemporary Los Angeles metropolitan area (which is where I currently live in real life) is also great, other than the extremely high housing prices there.

    BTW, I’m actually ambivalent about race mixing. I mean, I think that having ghetto black and Hispanic women use white sperm instead of ghetto black and Hispanic sperm would be a good idea. It would produce not only smarter but also more beautiful children for them. But I’m also glad that most whites still prefer to marry other whites even after over half a century of interracial marriage rightfully being legal throughout the entire US. Whites are the most beautiful people in the world, after all, and possibly the most accomplished people in the world as well (at least in a total sense; per capita, Ashkenazi Jews would very likely win).

  998. A123 says: • Website
    @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    Why? What is the benefit and for whom? What appeals to you about it?

     

    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan and also scooping up much more of the world's cognitive elites while we're at it. Acquiring the world's cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no? Unless they do regular hospital work in ghetto areas or whatever.

    Interestingly enough, there is a good defense of genetic interests here:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/03/adding-genetic-interests-to-utilitarianism/

    This is a pretty good reason to admit Europeans and part-Europeans who identify with European and/or Western culture, no?

    But if it is so nice, why have so many left the state? Despite it having such nice weather, and the towns not having runaway pension problems.

     

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?

    Replies: @A123, @songbird

    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan and also scooping up much more of the world’s cognitive elites while we’re at it

    This is a harmful proposition for everyone:

    • Recipient countries suffer brutal wage/salary suppression among groups targeted for Great Replacement (a.k.a. scooping up)

    • Donor countries suffer vicious brain drain as potential leaders depart. Worse yet, if large numbers of young adults leave, it impacts family formation, child birth, and TFR.

    Stable countries need to restrict both immigration and off shoring. Blue, pink, and, white collar workers need to earn enough money to generate stable families. Societal problems became vastly worse when wage suppression involuntary forced two income families.

    Cultural cohesion requires assimilation. America needs to take a 20 year pause to fully integrate the people we have now.

    PEACE 😇

     

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123

    Mass ex-USSR immigration to Israel did not result in long-term wage suppression:

    https://www.brown.edu/Departments/Economics/Faculty/Rachel_Friedberg/Links/Friedberg%20QJE.pdf

    There was some short-term pain but apparently long-term the effects are mostly neutral or positive, other than possibly higher housing prices, but that was going to become a problem eventually anyway due to Israeli Jews breeding a lot.

    Brain drain isn't an issue if a country is a US ally since the US can help it out if necessary. And if a country is a US enemy or rival, then brain-draining it makes all the more sense in order to weaken it.

    The US implemented severe immigration restrictions in 1921 and 1924 and yet US fertility kept falling year after year even before the Great Depression hit. So, I'm unsure that restricting immigration would produce a baby boom. Am skeptical of this actually if the example of Japan over the last several decades is anything to go by. Israel, on the other hand, received a lot of immigration throughout its history and still has an extremely high total fertility rate.

    The assimilation model already appears to be working pretty well in California with its pan-enclavist system, no?

    https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism

    Giving each group (including whites) their own space can do wonders.

    Replies: @A123

  999. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    The Soviet Jews simply had more time for Communism to corrupt them. Interestingly enough, my own Jewish paternal great-grandfather only became a Soviet Jew instead of a Polish Jew because apparently (based on what I've been told, numerous times) the Bolsheviks took him as a prisoner of war (and/or kidnapped him) from the Sarny area during the Polish-Soviet War as they were retreating because they needed more literate people and he was literate. He got separated from his parents and siblings that way, only to reunite with them in a visit in 1939 (or 1940), after the USSR conquered eastern Poland, only to subsequently lose most of them in the Holocaust shortly afterwards.

    You should actively reinvigorate your colonization program for Latvians in other ex-USSR countries. One Latvian grandparent or more should be good enough if I was designing this program.

    The Old Prussians never disappeared genetically; they only disappeared as a nation. They were absorbed into the population of ethnic German colonists who moved into East Prussia after the Teutonic Knights' conquest of East Prussia, to my knowledge. Their genes are very likely still present in those parts of Germany where East Prussians fled to in 1945.

    Interestingly enough, Eastern Europe also has a long historical experience with Indians, but unfortunately only with some of their most dysfunctional members, specifically the Roma.

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    paternal great-grandfather

    So sorry to hear about that, he must have been a strong person then to go through all of that and still have a family of his own, you must feel really grateful, btw, many Jews left the Baltic states already during WW1 (and of course there were many Baltic refugees as well). To think about it, so many people from our region have been displaced against their will..

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    The Old Prussians never disappeared genetically; they only disappeared as a nation. They were absorbed into the population of ethnic German colonists who moved into East Prussia after the Teutonic Knights’ conquest of East Prussia, to my knowledge. Their genes are very likely still present in those parts of Germany where East Prussians fled to in 1945.

    Of course, I’m well aware of this, I’m in conversation with a few of them. They were absorbed by Lithuanians and partly northern Poles. Some might be in Belarus and Russia. Some migrated away to the West together with the German population after 1945. Some of the orphans in the 1945 went to Lithuania and were adopted by Lithuanians.

    My parents were afraid of another, more successful coup attempt in the USSR/Russia at some future point in time after the unsuccessful August 1991 coup attempt. It was this attempt that sealed their decision to emigrate from Russia.

    That was a very, very scary moment. Although for some reason my parents didn’t seem that scared. There was some unity in our camp. But maybe they were too careless. Then again what does one gain by succumbing to fear?

    What would you see Russia’s total fertility rate as being in this scenario? I mean for Slavs only (not including Muslims).

    Not being an expert on this, I would guess that the quotient would be something like 1,7-2+. The truth is is that fertility had fallen in the 1970s and then it went up again in the 1980s – either due to the prohibition or higher oil prices or some other psychological boost so if this type of a boost were to be maintained, the number would be relatively healthy and stable, it wouldn’t be high, but it wouldn’t be low either.

    A successful color revolution in Russia itself? A Moscow Maidan?

    I doubt a color revolution is possible or all that likely. More likely would be a kind of a chaotization as the war drags on and then a war over the resources by various factions. This is probably the worst case scenario and may not necessarily come to pass, but at this point, if things continue this way and even if there is a large offensive that’s not all that successful, then this shouldn’t be excluded.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    So sorry to hear about that, he must have been a strong person then to go through all of that and still have a family of his own, you must feel really grateful, btw, many Jews left the Baltic states already during WW1 (and of course there were many Baltic refugees as well). To think about it, so many people from our region have been displaced against their will..

     

    Well, it was undoubtedly very tragic for him, but he appears to have accepted it as a fact of life and thus moved over from it. What's the point of dwelling on something that you can't change, after all?

    As I told you, he was able to see his parents and siblings one last time in 1939 or 1940 (or early 1941, I guess), shortly before Operation Barbarossa occurred and the Holocaust resulted in the murder of his parents and most of his siblings. He himself was able to evacuate to the Soviet interior together with his own family because they lived in Vinnytsia, further to the east, while his parents and siblings lived in or around Sarny, further to the west.

    He probably could have petitioned to immigrate to Israel from the USSR through Poland in the 1950s under Khrushchev had he actually wanted to do this, but by that point he was already pretty old (he was born in 1896; he died in 1985) and already had a well-set life in the USSR, this time in Samara/Kuybyshev Oblast, where his family fled from Vinnytsia in 1941-1942 after first ending up in Volgograd/Stalingrad before fleeing from there to Samara/Kuybyshev Oblast once the Nazis were approaching on Volgograd/Stalingrad in late 1942. (Their evacuation from Vinnytsia to Volgograd/Stalingrad itself occurred in mid-1941, shortly before the Nazis conquered Vinnytsia.)

    Of course, I’m well aware of this, I’m in conversation with a few of them. They were absorbed by Lithuanians and partly northern Poles. Some might be in Belarus and Russia. Some migrated away to the West together with the German population after 1945. Some of the orphans in the 1945 went to Lithuania and were adopted by Lithuanians.

     

    Interesting.

    That was a very, very scary moment. Although for some reason my parents didn’t seem that scared. There was some unity in our camp. But maybe they were too careless. Then again what does one gain by succumbing to fear?

     

    Had the coup plotters actually succeeded, you and your parents could have said goodbye to the idea of renewed Baltic independence, possibly indefinitely. Very sad but true.

    Not being an expert on this, I would guess that the quotient would be something like 1,7-2+. The truth is is that fertility had fallen in the 1970s and then it went up again in the 1980s – either due to the prohibition or higher oil prices or some other psychological boost so if this type of a boost were to be maintained, the number would be relatively healthy and stable, it wouldn’t be high, but it wouldn’t be low either.

     

    But it's not clear that a non-Bolshevik Russia can sustain such a high TFR among its Slavs. Maybe it could, but it's not guaranteed after it liberalizes if it was ever a right-wing dictatorship before that. Look at just how low Spain's and Portugal's TFRs are right now, for instance. Even Ireland's TFR is at 1.70 right now, at the very low end of your range here.

    I doubt a color revolution is possible or all that likely. More likely would be a kind of a chaotization as the war drags on and then a war over the resources by various factions. This is probably the worst case scenario and may not necessarily come to pass, but at this point, if things continue this way and even if there is a large offensive that’s not all that successful, then this shouldn’t be excluded.

     

    So, a Russian civil war? If so, then who exactly would you expect to win this Russian civil war?

    Replies: @LatW

  1000. @songbird
    @LatW

    Genuinely think that Mr. XYZ would enjoy living in some international cantonment or legation somewhere in the Third World, where everyone agreed to speak Esperanto, and race-mix.

    Maybe, instead of abolishing organizations like the UN and state department, they could simply be moved to some place like Somaliland, to create the necessary economic impetus to encourage others to move there.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Maybe, instead of abolishing organizations like the UN and state department, they could simply be moved to some place like Somaliland, to create the necessary economic impetus to encourage others to move there.

    That’s right, put the meaning back into the word “serve”. They have to do a hardship post anyway. Except it would be permanent. LOL Oh gosh, songbird, you’re a bit cruel, first it’s Tattooine, and now permanent deployment in Somaliland. Well, at least their per diems would go a long way. 🙂

    • Thanks: songbird
  1001. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    Why? What is the benefit and for whom? What appeals to you about it?

     

    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan and also scooping up much more of the world's cognitive elites while we're at it. Acquiring the world's cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no? Unless they do regular hospital work in ghetto areas or whatever.

    Interestingly enough, there is a good defense of genetic interests here:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/03/adding-genetic-interests-to-utilitarianism/

    This is a pretty good reason to admit Europeans and part-Europeans who identify with European and/or Western culture, no?

    But if it is so nice, why have so many left the state? Despite it having such nice weather, and the towns not having runaway pension problems.

     

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?

    Replies: @A123, @songbird

    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan

    what do you mean by this specifically? How much more cosmopolitan can we get?

    Acquiring the world’s cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no?

    I am inclined to think no.

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    I don’t think that the US is optimal at utilizing “human capital.” This is the center of DIE. It’s the place where enormous sums are transferred to unproductive ends. Where it is basically illegal to test for IQ directly, and where lawfare reigns supreme. Where the super-woke Google gemini was created. Where we warehouse vast numbers of people in both prisons and schools.

    There are many alternatives to a woke IQ-shredder. I thought the internet was created to let smart people communicate the world over? And it would seem possible to create international cities in other places, rather than transforming whole countries for some vague economic ends.

    Besides I don’t think that there is a single country that has pursued this idea of granting citizenship to vast numbers of people, which has not become open to all in an obviously unsustainable manner.

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?

    Isn’t this intrinsically tied to immigration?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    what do you mean by this specifically? How much more cosmopolitan can we get?

     

    The US West coast, the BosWash megalopolis, Florida, the Southwestern US (including Texas), and the Chicago metropolitan area are good examples of what we can expect. Though I would strongly prefer much more well-behaved blacks, at least comparable to Hispanics. Bad black behavior is a very serious problem and ruins things for everyone, including for law-abiding blacks. I don't want more ill-behaved people becoming over here (and to be fair, the problem isn't as much with immigrants and their descendants as it is with black descendants of slaves, unfortunately).

    I am inclined to think no.

    I don’t think that the US is optimal at utilizing “human capital.” This is the center of DIE. It’s the place where enormous sums are transferred to unproductive ends. Where it is basically illegal to test for IQ directly, and where lawfare reigns supreme. Where the super-woke Google gemini was created. Where we warehouse vast numbers of people in both prisons and schools.
     
    The US and West certainly have a lot to improve upon. No doubt about that. But other than China, there really isn't anyone out there in the world who can create anywhere near as much elite science as the West can create. Even if some of it is trash, there's still a huge amount of good stuff out there. (FWIW, I consider Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan to be a part of the West. They are at least culturally, albeit not genetically.)

    There are many alternatives to a woke IQ-shredder. I thought the internet was created to let smart people communicate the world over? And it would seem possible to create international cities in other places, rather than transforming whole countries for some vague economic ends.
     
    I'm not really convinced that the West is an IQ shredder. Cities are arguably IQ shredders, but that's true for cities everywhere, including in the developing world.

    If you want to create international cities, then go ahead, but it would be nice for smart Westerners (and other smart people) to breed more so that we could actually have more people to create and settle such new charter cities.

    Besides I don’t think that there is a single country that has pursued this idea of granting citizenship to vast numbers of people, which has not become open to all in an obviously unsustainable manner.
     
    Canada appears to work pretty well, as do both Australia and New Zealand. Well, other than their extremely high housing prices. And their Woke lunacy. But they're still selective about whom they let in.

    I want to be a bit more generous towards working-class immigrants than the above countries are but still aggressively focus on securing cognitive elites. While cognitive elites could do research elsewhere and cooperate with each other via the Internet, e-mail, et cetera, one might still wonder whether it would be easier for cognitive elites to physically have access to each other. Or could a comparable Hive Mind effect genuinely be achieved in an exclusively virtual manner?

    There's also the fact that career opportunities for talented people outside of the West might often be significantly less--and less appealing--than they would be for them in the West. Good luck being a researcher somewhere like India or Russia and actually getting paid well for this. In the West, though, it's easier, though still not bulletproof because Western academia unfortunately treats its adjuncts like total crap.

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    , @Dmitry
    @songbird

    "Human capital" are terms which relates to your employees' talent, experience, education, social network, emotional network.

    It's not related to "IQ theory". Some of the ways businesses do human capital formation, are investing in the emotional health of your employees, improving the emotional connections, improving team building. The strength of the team connections in a company or in an economy can be seen as part of the human capital.

    In the post-industrial economy people will argue investing in the human capital of the economy's employees could be more important in some ways than the physical capital (machines) of the industrial economy.

    There is an article about the topic with some criticism of the concept.
    https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/032715/what-human-capital-and-how-it-used.asp

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    Isn’t this intrinsically tied to immigration?

     

    Some of it is, no doubt, but some of it is also linked to zoning laws/restrictions.
  1002. @John Johnson
    @Matra

    Oh gosh don't talk about that here.

    The Tucker following boomers will throw a tizzy over ruining their childish fantasy of Russia as a tradcon state.

    They really don't like videos like this one:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oykhHJshOE

    That is Moscow and not the middle east.

    The Fox zombots will get even more upset if you point out how the Orthodox Slavs are in decline while the Russian Muslims have an expanding population.

    Goes against the narrative of their dwarf hero somehow saving the West by killing Slavs.

    Dwarf lovers also believe that the Jews are the cause of the invasion and Putin is somehow sticking it to them by being a major supplier of oil and diamonds to Israel. Does that make any sense? Of course not but they'll revert to their #1 counter-argument:
    U MUST BE A JEW!!!!!!

    I found the ultimate video that pisses them off. It's Putin at the world holocaust forum with his pal Netenayhu:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHA66ahrEk8

    Look at those globalist pals sitting together.

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  1003. @songbird
    @LatW

    Genuinely think that Mr. XYZ would enjoy living in some international cantonment or legation somewhere in the Third World, where everyone agreed to speak Esperanto, and race-mix.

    Maybe, instead of abolishing organizations like the UN and state department, they could simply be moved to some place like Somaliland, to create the necessary economic impetus to encourage others to move there.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Haiti.

    Did you pitch your 8 bucks into the dune 2 haul? The movie is supposed to be fabulous but I’m guessing no way.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I remember when everyone was praising Sicario, and I saw it and there is that one scene, and I was like, WTF, this is gay porn! Tarantino also made a film like that, but at least it wasn't rated as highly. (Or at least one of the gay movies that he made )

    Haven't seen Dune 2, but I did enjoy listening to a review where they mentioned some of the changes. Like I have guess the Harkonnen guy is no longer a pederast?

  1004. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    Haiti.

    Did you pitch your 8 bucks into the dune 2 haul? The movie is supposed to be fabulous but I'm guessing no way.

    Replies: @songbird

    I remember when everyone was praising Sicario, and I saw it and there is that one scene,

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    and I was like, WTF, this is gay porn! Tarantino also made a film like that, but at least it wasn’t rated as highly. (Or at least one of the gay movies that he made )

    Haven’t seen Dune 2, but I did enjoy listening to a review where they mentioned some of the changes. Like I have guess the Harkonnen guy is no longer a pederast?

  1005. Is that Vulpes vulpes @0:14?

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  1006. @LatW
    @Coconuts


    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of ‘beauty as violence’, and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.
     
    There seems to be a strong subjective element here (but of course the vibe of those times is strongly felt upon his writing as well). Drieu seems to have had some ideological fluctuations (even though he remained faithful to his ideology in the end), he also sounds a bit tormented by what he had gathered from his life experiences (he seems to have had a somewhat of a bohemian lifestyle prior to his conversion to fascism, so his criticism of the modern urban life and the rejection of it can be viewed as reactionary, the longing and fascination with the vitality of the Middle Ages though is something that will resonate with many Europeans, regardless of their life experiences). Of course, he has a poet's soul and thus more sensitive.

    And Jünger socialized with avant-garde and surrealist thinkers in Paris. And some who, while interesting, may have been even more questionable from the point of view of National Socialist ethics. But this is understandable with intellectuals and writers.

    Others, such as Léon Degrelle, seem to have been much more consistent and confident in their political position (him being an intellectual as well, albeit not of the poetic type). Maybe because he, while still an intellectual, is more of a pure warrior type.


    some fascination with doom and suicide
     
    There is also a beautiful and natural acceptance of death in Drieu's essay. I'll quote with your permission (some of the thoughts here are almost pagan sounding and almost reminiscent of Nietzsche's affirmation of life):

    I am not protesting against the passage of time, in the way that vulgar reactionaries and archaists might, but I ask that people admit the fatality of time. For myself, having the gift of recognizing death whenever it makes its presence felt in life never prevents me from joyfully contemplating this mortal blooming. I would wish it were the same for others, because understanding is only complete when it is tempered with bitterness and joy only speaks truthfully to us if it leads to the final tragic masked ball. It is part of human decency and dignity to acknowledge that what begins ends, sparing itself in the process from childish self-deception. Leave to one side the stupid and rigid pride in the idea of progress and return to a more comprehensive philosophy of the seasons. This is both more useful and fitting. It becomes possible to appreciate that at the point where one thing dies, another is reborn.

    Also, hints of archeofuturism:

    Humanity is just as much here as there, in its past as in its present. The future may turn out to be richer in the qualities of the past than the present.

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    Leave to one side the stupid and rigid pride in the idea of progress and return to a more comprehensive philosophy of the seasons.

    Interesting that you chose to highlight this sentence. I’ve never really understood this fascination with cyclicality – or more to the point, why it’s considered so much superior. So life is in part bitter and tragic and all things must eventually come to an end, well okay, but why in the world does that require me to give up “the idea of progress”? Can’t I appreciate bitterness and tragedy and finality at the same time as I work to improve those things which can be improved? Do I have to spend every waking moment contemplating the ‘last things’? It’s like you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a mud hut with witch doctor medicine or you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a HVAC apartment with scientific and state-funded medicine. Isn’t the latter obviously better than the former? Why is it such a crime to describe it as “progress” then? What is “stupid” about it?

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    @silviosilver

    Hello, nice to see you.


    Interesting that you chose to highlight this sentence.
     
    Actually, I was just trying to defend the writer - Coconuts was describing how that time period may have been affecting the writer and that his writing was seeped in "gloom and [themes of] suicide". Because that was mentioned and it sounded a bit harsh, I wanted to add a somewhat "lighter" note in Drieu's writing - the concept of "philosophy of seasons" - this reframes the idea of death, removing its finality and connecting it to the affirmation of life through the idea of cyclicality.

    I’ve never really understood this fascination with cyclicality – or more to the point, why it’s considered so much superior.
     
    In the ancient worldview, this is just how the world and time are perceived - as creation, destruction and rebirth (as opposed to linear), but in the context of this particular essay, the writer is critical of modernity and the things that are carried into human self-perception through progress.

    Can’t I appreciate bitterness and tragedy and finality at the same time as I work to improve those things which can be improved?
     
    Well, within the "philosophy of seasons", this "finality" would be countered by affirmation of life (or maybe what he calls "mortal blooming"). I think that he was not implying that one cannot improve on the technical or scientific side of life, but to rather not view these as absolute or as an end in themselves. That humanity not only gained things, but also lost part of itself through progress.

    It’s like you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a mud hut with witch doctor medicine or you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a HVAC apartment with scientific and state-funded medicine.
     
    One can appreciate cyclicality one anywhere, at any time (or during special times or through a ritual), because, from the anthropological and mythical point of view, cyclicality simply means the repetition and the re-living of the moment of (the original) creation. This is what is celebrated in the Summer Solstice. The cyclicality of creation, destruction and rebirth can be repeated over and over.

    When it comes to pure technological progress, by the 1930s, we already lived very comfortable lives as the most important things had already been invented. Maybe having experienced the more negative sides of the late industrial era (WWI), he reverts to the Middle Ages (for example, the Song of Roland,) to find some simplicity and what he calls "the old human warmth" (of the old artisans and the relationships of that time or the valiance of an individual knight versus modern warfare).

    Isn’t the latter obviously better than the former? Why is it such a crime to describe it as “progress” then? What is “stupid” about it?
     
    He is not talking about technology per se, but how this technology affects human relationships, the human soul and even relationship with Nature and the divine. How excessive rationalism, reliance only on reason leads man to isolation, almost a kind of an alienation as "[..] the universe was no longer understood as a great being filled with enigmatic resources, secret immensity and the infinite."

    During that period Oswald Spengler's ideas were floating around. And already Spengler noted that energy that was once directed inwards, towards the mind and the spirituality, is now being directed outwards, towards a political life (demonstrated in modern ideologies). Rationalism over instinct.

    Destiny, fatalism, decline, decay, entry into the age of materialism, the death of a civilization, death following life, the death of the West - those are all Spenglerian themes (that resonate with Drieu La Rochelle). These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt. Spengler's idea of a civilization as an organic sequence, as something blossoming and fading, sounds biological and Drieu has a similar theme surrounding the acceptance and denial of the body. In his essay, this is related to city dwelling. I agree that city dwelling would be hard to give up, or maybe it could be changed somehow. Maybe it is senseless idealism.

    But I do agree that sometimes this fixation on the past or the idealization of a certain period of the past (e.g., the Middle Ages) can seem a bit too subjective, too much of a denial of the unique and meaningful moment in the present, the people who lived then may have wanted to exchange with us and live at our time instead, as we ourselves pine for those times (that we have never even experienced). But it seems that for some on the far right, who enjoy exploring the concept of archeofuturism, this might be interesting.

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  1007. @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan and also scooping up much more of the world’s cognitive elites while we’re at it
     
    This is a harmful proposition for everyone:

    • Recipient countries suffer brutal wage/salary suppression among groups targeted for Great Replacement (a.k.a. scooping up)

    • Donor countries suffer vicious brain drain as potential leaders depart. Worse yet, if large numbers of young adults leave, it impacts family formation, child birth, and TFR.

    Stable countries need to restrict both immigration and off shoring. Blue, pink, and, white collar workers need to earn enough money to generate stable families. Societal problems became vastly worse when wage suppression involuntary forced two income families.

    Cultural cohesion requires assimilation. America needs to take a 20 year pause to fully integrate the people we have now.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhbjSIktrNIfOxjDre1BQEHHzniO_3F9VaiKLisVwQAq4pH9O4HZKNyVta3y350fdSGxJQsnJ9_6O0b14S36Jk0jGzZh7Ldi97u76ismkZEteCqla58StzdMEtasSkS63KPxkCVTWSiqe-mnjhLgIdbd1dOIic9D0L5Hd034aD_cOrXWab-p-KHeAN10Gx-/s474/90milesadda1ee2590e9f1a8aec1a96333dd55d_52c612c2_500.jpg

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    Mass ex-USSR immigration to Israel did not result in long-term wage suppression:

    https://www.brown.edu/Departments/Economics/Faculty/Rachel_Friedberg/Links/Friedberg%20QJE.pdf

    There was some short-term pain but apparently long-term the effects are mostly neutral or positive, other than possibly higher housing prices, but that was going to become a problem eventually anyway due to Israeli Jews breeding a lot.

    Brain drain isn’t an issue if a country is a US ally since the US can help it out if necessary. And if a country is a US enemy or rival, then brain-draining it makes all the more sense in order to weaken it.

    The US implemented severe immigration restrictions in 1921 and 1924 and yet US fertility kept falling year after year even before the Great Depression hit. So, I’m unsure that restricting immigration would produce a baby boom. Am skeptical of this actually if the example of Japan over the last several decades is anything to go by. Israel, on the other hand, received a lot of immigration throughout its history and still has an extremely high total fertility rate.

    The assimilation model already appears to be working pretty well in California with its pan-enclavist system, no?

    https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism

    Giving each group (including whites) their own space can do wonders.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    The assimilation model already appears to be working pretty well in California with its pan-enclavist system, no?
     
    No.

    California is on its way to collapse. Mobs are running wild (1). San Francisco is emptying (2)


    Giving each group (including whites) their own space can do wonders.

     

    The U.S. Constitution has been amended to make this impossible. One can not legally keep out undesirables. The mall riots (1) are primarily troublemakers travelling outside of "their space".

    Mass ex-USSR immigration to Israel did not result in long-term wage suppression
     
    Israel is a fairly extreme outlier case. They received a shot of truly high end people from Russia when the door was opened. And they were in a rapid expansion phase for their national economy. This scenario is unlikely to repeat.

    20/20 hindsight, how much did Russia lose via this brain drain?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-hordes-teens-swarm-california-malls-shooting-and-stabbing-ensue

    (2) https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/san-francisco-downtown-closing/

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  1008. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan
     
    what do you mean by this specifically? How much more cosmopolitan can we get?

    Acquiring the world’s cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no?
     
    I am inclined to think no.

    I don't think that the US is optimal at utilizing "human capital." This is the center of DIE. It's the place where enormous sums are transferred to unproductive ends. Where it is basically illegal to test for IQ directly, and where lawfare reigns supreme. Where the super-woke Google gemini was created. Where we warehouse vast numbers of people in both prisons and schools.

    There are many alternatives to a woke IQ-shredder. I thought the internet was created to let smart people communicate the world over? And it would seem possible to create international cities in other places, rather than transforming whole countries for some vague economic ends.

    Besides I don't think that there is a single country that has pursued this idea of granting citizenship to vast numbers of people, which has not become open to all in an obviously unsustainable manner.

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?
     
    Isn't this intrinsically tied to immigration?

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    what do you mean by this specifically? How much more cosmopolitan can we get?

    The US West coast, the BosWash megalopolis, Florida, the Southwestern US (including Texas), and the Chicago metropolitan area are good examples of what we can expect. Though I would strongly prefer much more well-behaved blacks, at least comparable to Hispanics. Bad black behavior is a very serious problem and ruins things for everyone, including for law-abiding blacks. I don’t want more ill-behaved people becoming over here (and to be fair, the problem isn’t as much with immigrants and their descendants as it is with black descendants of slaves, unfortunately).

    I am inclined to think no.

    I don’t think that the US is optimal at utilizing “human capital.” This is the center of DIE. It’s the place where enormous sums are transferred to unproductive ends. Where it is basically illegal to test for IQ directly, and where lawfare reigns supreme. Where the super-woke Google gemini was created. Where we warehouse vast numbers of people in both prisons and schools.

    The US and West certainly have a lot to improve upon. No doubt about that. But other than China, there really isn’t anyone out there in the world who can create anywhere near as much elite science as the West can create. Even if some of it is trash, there’s still a huge amount of good stuff out there. (FWIW, I consider Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan to be a part of the West. They are at least culturally, albeit not genetically.)

    There are many alternatives to a woke IQ-shredder. I thought the internet was created to let smart people communicate the world over? And it would seem possible to create international cities in other places, rather than transforming whole countries for some vague economic ends.

    I’m not really convinced that the West is an IQ shredder. Cities are arguably IQ shredders, but that’s true for cities everywhere, including in the developing world.

    If you want to create international cities, then go ahead, but it would be nice for smart Westerners (and other smart people) to breed more so that we could actually have more people to create and settle such new charter cities.

    Besides I don’t think that there is a single country that has pursued this idea of granting citizenship to vast numbers of people, which has not become open to all in an obviously unsustainable manner.

    Canada appears to work pretty well, as do both Australia and New Zealand. Well, other than their extremely high housing prices. And their Woke lunacy. But they’re still selective about whom they let in.

    I want to be a bit more generous towards working-class immigrants than the above countries are but still aggressively focus on securing cognitive elites. While cognitive elites could do research elsewhere and cooperate with each other via the Internet, e-mail, et cetera, one might still wonder whether it would be easier for cognitive elites to physically have access to each other. Or could a comparable Hive Mind effect genuinely be achieved in an exclusively virtual manner?

    There’s also the fact that career opportunities for talented people outside of the West might often be significantly less–and less appealing–than they would be for them in the West. Good luck being a researcher somewhere like India or Russia and actually getting paid well for this. In the West, though, it’s easier, though still not bulletproof because Western academia unfortunately treats its adjuncts like total crap.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    The US West coast, the BosWash megalopolis, Florida, the Southwestern US (including Texas), and the Chicago metropolitan area are good examples of what we can expect
     
    I already live there. Demographic projections, even without immigration seem to be very bleak at this point. Florida and the SW especially.

    The thing you idealize will be very different in 30-50 years time. You may have buyer's remorse at that time. Your blood would curdle, to be around certain Boston area schools, when they let out. (And I am not even speaking of American blacks.)

    Cities are arguably IQ shredders, but that’s true for cities everywhere, including in the developing world.
     
    surely, it is more pronounced, when smart people are moving to the same cities? I don't see how it could be otherwise.

    Canada appears to work pretty well, as do both Australia and New Zealand...And their Woke lunacy. But they’re still selective about whom they let in.
     
    I'm not really convinced this is true. Aren't there blacks in Australia now?

    one might still wonder whether it would be easier for cognitive elites to physically have access to each other.
     
    Short term visas. Mutual exchanges and international cities.

    There’s also the fact that career opportunities for talented people outside of the West might often be significantly less–and less appealing–than they would be for them in the West.
     
    seems like an argument for the creation of special economic zones, rather than open borders, IMO.

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  1009. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    paternal great-grandfather
     
    So sorry to hear about that, he must have been a strong person then to go through all of that and still have a family of his own, you must feel really grateful, btw, many Jews left the Baltic states already during WW1 (and of course there were many Baltic refugees as well). To think about it, so many people from our region have been displaced against their will..

    The Old Prussians never disappeared genetically; they only disappeared as a nation. They were absorbed into the population of ethnic German colonists who moved into East Prussia after the Teutonic Knights’ conquest of East Prussia, to my knowledge. Their genes are very likely still present in those parts of Germany where East Prussians fled to in 1945.
     
    Of course, I'm well aware of this, I'm in conversation with a few of them. They were absorbed by Lithuanians and partly northern Poles. Some might be in Belarus and Russia. Some migrated away to the West together with the German population after 1945. Some of the orphans in the 1945 went to Lithuania and were adopted by Lithuanians.

    My parents were afraid of another, more successful coup attempt in the USSR/Russia at some future point in time after the unsuccessful August 1991 coup attempt. It was this attempt that sealed their decision to emigrate from Russia.
     
    That was a very, very scary moment. Although for some reason my parents didn't seem that scared. There was some unity in our camp. But maybe they were too careless. Then again what does one gain by succumbing to fear?

    What would you see Russia’s total fertility rate as being in this scenario? I mean for Slavs only (not including Muslims).
     
    Not being an expert on this, I would guess that the quotient would be something like 1,7-2+. The truth is is that fertility had fallen in the 1970s and then it went up again in the 1980s - either due to the prohibition or higher oil prices or some other psychological boost so if this type of a boost were to be maintained, the number would be relatively healthy and stable, it wouldn't be high, but it wouldn't be low either.

    A successful color revolution in Russia itself? A Moscow Maidan?
     
    I doubt a color revolution is possible or all that likely. More likely would be a kind of a chaotization as the war drags on and then a war over the resources by various factions. This is probably the worst case scenario and may not necessarily come to pass, but at this point, if things continue this way and even if there is a large offensive that's not all that successful, then this shouldn't be excluded.

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    So sorry to hear about that, he must have been a strong person then to go through all of that and still have a family of his own, you must feel really grateful, btw, many Jews left the Baltic states already during WW1 (and of course there were many Baltic refugees as well). To think about it, so many people from our region have been displaced against their will..

    Well, it was undoubtedly very tragic for him, but he appears to have accepted it as a fact of life and thus moved over from it. What’s the point of dwelling on something that you can’t change, after all?

    As I told you, he was able to see his parents and siblings one last time in 1939 or 1940 (or early 1941, I guess), shortly before Operation Barbarossa occurred and the Holocaust resulted in the murder of his parents and most of his siblings. He himself was able to evacuate to the Soviet interior together with his own family because they lived in Vinnytsia, further to the east, while his parents and siblings lived in or around Sarny, further to the west.

    He probably could have petitioned to immigrate to Israel from the USSR through Poland in the 1950s under Khrushchev had he actually wanted to do this, but by that point he was already pretty old (he was born in 1896; he died in 1985) and already had a well-set life in the USSR, this time in Samara/Kuybyshev Oblast, where his family fled from Vinnytsia in 1941-1942 after first ending up in Volgograd/Stalingrad before fleeing from there to Samara/Kuybyshev Oblast once the Nazis were approaching on Volgograd/Stalingrad in late 1942. (Their evacuation from Vinnytsia to Volgograd/Stalingrad itself occurred in mid-1941, shortly before the Nazis conquered Vinnytsia.)

    Of course, I’m well aware of this, I’m in conversation with a few of them. They were absorbed by Lithuanians and partly northern Poles. Some might be in Belarus and Russia. Some migrated away to the West together with the German population after 1945. Some of the orphans in the 1945 went to Lithuania and were adopted by Lithuanians.

    Interesting.

    That was a very, very scary moment. Although for some reason my parents didn’t seem that scared. There was some unity in our camp. But maybe they were too careless. Then again what does one gain by succumbing to fear?

    Had the coup plotters actually succeeded, you and your parents could have said goodbye to the idea of renewed Baltic independence, possibly indefinitely. Very sad but true.

    Not being an expert on this, I would guess that the quotient would be something like 1,7-2+. The truth is is that fertility had fallen in the 1970s and then it went up again in the 1980s – either due to the prohibition or higher oil prices or some other psychological boost so if this type of a boost were to be maintained, the number would be relatively healthy and stable, it wouldn’t be high, but it wouldn’t be low either.

    But it’s not clear that a non-Bolshevik Russia can sustain such a high TFR among its Slavs. Maybe it could, but it’s not guaranteed after it liberalizes if it was ever a right-wing dictatorship before that. Look at just how low Spain’s and Portugal’s TFRs are right now, for instance. Even Ireland’s TFR is at 1.70 right now, at the very low end of your range here.

    I doubt a color revolution is possible or all that likely. More likely would be a kind of a chaotization as the war drags on and then a war over the resources by various factions. This is probably the worst case scenario and may not necessarily come to pass, but at this point, if things continue this way and even if there is a large offensive that’s not all that successful, then this shouldn’t be excluded.

    So, a Russian civil war? If so, then who exactly would you expect to win this Russian civil war?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Had the coup plotters actually succeeded, you and your parents could have said goodbye to the idea of renewed Baltic independence, possibly indefinitely. Very sad but true.
     
    This is speculative, there would've been even more bloodshed, possibly much more, and not just in the Baltics but across the whole ex-USSR. Everyone in the parents' generation at that time was reading Ogonyok (ask your dad, he will explain), and they were quite young, in their 30s. The regime was destined to fall, sooner or later.

    But it’s not clear that a non-Bolshevik Russia can sustain such a high TFR among its Slavs. Maybe it could, but it’s not guaranteed after it liberalizes if it was ever a right-wing dictatorship before that. Look at just how low Spain’s and Portugal’s TFRs are right now, for instance. Even Ireland’s TFR is at 1.70 right now, at the very low end of your range here.
     
    I was talking about that particular context of the 1980s. The TFR would be retained at that level, if that context was maintained (pressure to marry and have children early for both sexes, no women available for casual sex, no porn, full male employment, strong daycare system, etc). Of course, that was within a totalitarian context, but it is doubtful that Russia would liberalize to the same extent as the West - not in the period of, let's say, 1917 to 1960s-70s. Possibly even later. Not in the manner that the West did. Spain, Portugal, Ireland - you are posting these as an example from the current times, where everything has already gone to maximum liberalism and social atomization plus overly expensive neo-liberal banking and housing system, this wasn't the case in the 1990s, at least not in Ireland. Not sure, but Spain, Portugal and Italy may have started languishing earlier (because those countries had strong Communist and liberal tendencies, early on). In other Catholic regions it may have been better.

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  1010. @songbird
    @Dmitry


    Normans were mainly interested in mafia things and didn’t have a strong culture identity, so they almost dissolved into Ireland or Italy.
     
    Possibly, the fact that they were seeking legitimacy from the Church may have made them a bit different from the Saxons. (Though some were quite violent and rapy.)

    However, I think it is a misconception that they didn't have a strong identity. The Archbishop of Dublin was never a man with a native name, until more modern times.

    At the Battle of Knockdoe in 1504, the leader an Anglo-Norman contingent wanted to engage first, as a matter of ethnic pride. (Book of Howth.). One can find quite a separateness in the writings of Irish and Old English (Normans.). There is one letter from the mid or late 1600s, where a native is basically suggesting that Normans be purged from the Church leadership.

    Normans were favored politically to a large extent, so it was in their interest to keep the identity.

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    They an identity with strategies, military techniques. But they don’t have fixed culture identity like a nationality which was settled. They are more like today example of mafia clans, like transnational cartels.

    Almost immediately after the Viking warriors become servants of the French king, they were speaking French and forget their Norse language. They copy the Romanesque style for their art and literature from Franks. The French architecture, from Franks.

    Anglo-Saxon England is conquered by French-speaking Normans in 1066, England doesn’t become French language speaking with centuries of Norman kings. French architecture, cathedrals and language comes to England. After some time, descendants of Normans become Anglo-Saxon language people.

    In France, they became French after accepting land in France and servants to France’s king. They become Anglo-Saxons after conquering England. They have the high level of cultural openness and become the identity of the people they conquer.

    Normans in the Kingdom of Sicily, created the tolerant multicultural society, which had influence of Byzantine, Frank and Islamic culture. King Roger II sounds like he believed almost dual Christian-Muslim identity.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman%E2%80%93Arab%E2%80%93Byzantine_culture#Key_figures

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Dmitry


    French architecture, cathedrals and language comes to England.
     
    The architecture of England and the Normans original home was probably pretty unsophisticated to start with. But France would have had more survival from the Roman stone-building tradition. The so-called Norman keep became quite popular in Ireland among natives.

    In France, they became French after accepting land in France and servants to France’s king.
     
    I would speculate that the king took hostages to ensure their cooperation. This would have resulted in the children being integrated.

    They become Anglo-Saxons after conquering England.
     
    It took a while though. Probably sensible not to appear too foreign, for too long. The Qing spoke Manchu.

    Still, I wonder to what extent the idea of France as a center of etiquette may have been influenced by Norman affinities.

    Normans in the Kingdom of Sicily, created the tolerant multicultural society,
     
    it was a variegated place, quite far from their center of power.

    That is funny how Roger (was it?) had black guards.
  1011. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan
     
    what do you mean by this specifically? How much more cosmopolitan can we get?

    Acquiring the world’s cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no?
     
    I am inclined to think no.

    I don't think that the US is optimal at utilizing "human capital." This is the center of DIE. It's the place where enormous sums are transferred to unproductive ends. Where it is basically illegal to test for IQ directly, and where lawfare reigns supreme. Where the super-woke Google gemini was created. Where we warehouse vast numbers of people in both prisons and schools.

    There are many alternatives to a woke IQ-shredder. I thought the internet was created to let smart people communicate the world over? And it would seem possible to create international cities in other places, rather than transforming whole countries for some vague economic ends.

    Besides I don't think that there is a single country that has pursued this idea of granting citizenship to vast numbers of people, which has not become open to all in an obviously unsustainable manner.

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?
     
    Isn't this intrinsically tied to immigration?

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    “Human capital” are terms which relates to your employees’ talent, experience, education, social network, emotional network.

    It’s not related to “IQ theory”. Some of the ways businesses do human capital formation, are investing in the emotional health of your employees, improving the emotional connections, improving team building. The strength of the team connections in a company or in an economy can be seen as part of the human capital.

    In the post-industrial economy people will argue investing in the human capital of the economy’s employees could be more important in some ways than the physical capital (machines) of the industrial economy.

    There is an article about the topic with some criticism of the concept.
    https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/032715/what-human-capital-and-how-it-used.asp

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Dmitry


    It’s not related to “IQ theory”.
     
    originally, it was very tied to domestic development and education. But when the focus of growth shifted to immigration, then it came more to mean the importation of people.

    Of course, the state ideology is blank-slatist, so in a way it translates more to empty credentialism and degree mills. But within a certain meliue (AK and XYZ and I think Kaplan) it is more synonymous with a class of IQ.

    To some, high IQ, like genius-level. To others, just anything starting with a normative 100 IQ and above. Something like a Filipina nurse.

    XYZ seems to be a little loose in his definition, though. To him it seems to include secular Somalis.

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  1012. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    The idea of making the US much more cosmopolitan
     
    what do you mean by this specifically? How much more cosmopolitan can we get?

    Acquiring the world’s cognitive elites would strengthen science, technology, innovation, research, et cetera in the US and West in general, no?
     
    I am inclined to think no.

    I don't think that the US is optimal at utilizing "human capital." This is the center of DIE. It's the place where enormous sums are transferred to unproductive ends. Where it is basically illegal to test for IQ directly, and where lawfare reigns supreme. Where the super-woke Google gemini was created. Where we warehouse vast numbers of people in both prisons and schools.

    There are many alternatives to a woke IQ-shredder. I thought the internet was created to let smart people communicate the world over? And it would seem possible to create international cities in other places, rather than transforming whole countries for some vague economic ends.

    Besides I don't think that there is a single country that has pursued this idea of granting citizenship to vast numbers of people, which has not become open to all in an obviously unsustainable manner.

    High housing prices I suspect are a large part of the reason, no?
     
    Isn't this intrinsically tied to immigration?

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    Isn’t this intrinsically tied to immigration?

    Some of it is, no doubt, but some of it is also linked to zoning laws/restrictions.

  1013. @silviosilver
    @LatW


    Leave to one side the stupid and rigid pride in the idea of progress and return to a more comprehensive philosophy of the seasons.
     
    Interesting that you chose to highlight this sentence. I've never really understood this fascination with cyclicality - or more to the point, why it's considered so much superior. So life is in part bitter and tragic and all things must eventually come to an end, well okay, but why in the world does that require me to give up "the idea of progress"? Can't I appreciate bitterness and tragedy and finality at the same time as I work to improve those things which can be improved? Do I have to spend every waking moment contemplating the 'last things'? It's like you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a mud hut with witch doctor medicine or you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a HVAC apartment with scientific and state-funded medicine. Isn't the latter obviously better than the former? Why is it such a crime to describe it as "progress" then? What is "stupid" about it?

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    Hello, nice to see you.

    Interesting that you chose to highlight this sentence.

    Actually, I was just trying to defend the writer – Coconuts was describing how that time period may have been affecting the writer and that his writing was seeped in “gloom and [themes of] suicide”. Because that was mentioned and it sounded a bit harsh, I wanted to add a somewhat “lighter” note in Drieu’s writing – the concept of “philosophy of seasons” – this reframes the idea of death, removing its finality and connecting it to the affirmation of life through the idea of cyclicality.

    I’ve never really understood this fascination with cyclicality – or more to the point, why it’s considered so much superior.

    In the ancient worldview, this is just how the world and time are perceived – as creation, destruction and rebirth (as opposed to linear), but in the context of this particular essay, the writer is critical of modernity and the things that are carried into human self-perception through progress.

    Can’t I appreciate bitterness and tragedy and finality at the same time as I work to improve those things which can be improved?

    Well, within the “philosophy of seasons”, this “finality” would be countered by affirmation of life (or maybe what he calls “mortal blooming”). I think that he was not implying that one cannot improve on the technical or scientific side of life, but to rather not view these as absolute or as an end in themselves. That humanity not only gained things, but also lost part of itself through progress.

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    It’s like you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a mud hut with witch doctor medicine or you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a HVAC apartment with scientific and state-funded medicine.

    One can appreciate cyclicality one anywhere, at any time (or during special times or through a ritual), because, from the anthropological and mythical point of view, cyclicality simply means the repetition and the re-living of the moment of (the original) creation. This is what is celebrated in the Summer Solstice. The cyclicality of creation, destruction and rebirth can be repeated over and over.

    When it comes to pure technological progress, by the 1930s, we already lived very comfortable lives as the most important things had already been invented. Maybe having experienced the more negative sides of the late industrial era (WWI), he reverts to the Middle Ages (for example, the Song of Roland,) to find some simplicity and what he calls “the old human warmth” (of the old artisans and the relationships of that time or the valiance of an individual knight versus modern warfare).

    Isn’t the latter obviously better than the former? Why is it such a crime to describe it as “progress” then? What is “stupid” about it?

    He is not talking about technology per se, but how this technology affects human relationships, the human soul and even relationship with Nature and the divine. How excessive rationalism, reliance only on reason leads man to isolation, almost a kind of an alienation as “[..] the universe was no longer understood as a great being filled with enigmatic resources, secret immensity and the infinite.”

    During that period Oswald Spengler’s ideas were floating around. And already Spengler noted that energy that was once directed inwards, towards the mind and the spirituality, is now being directed outwards, towards a political life (demonstrated in modern ideologies). Rationalism over instinct.

    Destiny, fatalism, decline, decay, entry into the age of materialism, the death of a civilization, death following life, the death of the West – those are all Spenglerian themes (that resonate with Drieu La Rochelle). These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt. Spengler’s idea of a civilization as an organic sequence, as something blossoming and fading, sounds biological and Drieu has a similar theme surrounding the acceptance and denial of the body. In his essay, this is related to city dwelling. I agree that city dwelling would be hard to give up, or maybe it could be changed somehow. Maybe it is senseless idealism.

    But I do agree that sometimes this fixation on the past or the idealization of a certain period of the past (e.g., the Middle Ages) can seem a bit too subjective, too much of a denial of the unique and meaningful moment in the present, the people who lived then may have wanted to exchange with us and live at our time instead, as we ourselves pine for those times (that we have never even experienced). But it seems that for some on the far right, who enjoy exploring the concept of archeofuturism, this might be interesting.

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    @LatW

    Gradual growth of wisdom is one aspect of appreciation of the cycles in life. They seem different each time as much because we have changed as much as the circumstances have actually changed. The cycle makes our personal evolution easier to recognize which may help us actively actively shape it.

    , @Coconuts
    @LatW


    These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt.
     
    I found another interesting quote about Drieu's work. It comes from Jacques Lecarme, who was a literature professor at the Sorbonne until he retired in the 2010s. It is about first discovering the novel Gilles while he was a student in the 1950s, at the height of Sartre's influence.

    His father had been a professor as well, and the family were quite committed Communists:


    An attentive reader of Malraux, Aragon and Sartre, I reserved my admiration for the great figures of the Resistance, and felt only repulsion for collaborators. A second discovery was even more decisive. Everyone knows that being twenty is never the finest time of our lives. I found myself at the Rue d’Ulm (the École normale supérieure), a fine establishment where a heavy Communist and Marxist influence predominated, something I was resolutely allergic to. For the most part our professors believed that anyone who was not a Stalinist was a Fascist; the great writers of the time, Sartre and Aragon in particular, passed judgement and excommunicated in the name of world revolution. On the opposing side to the Communists, Malraux had given up writing novels and had sought refuge first in a museum, then in a government ministry.

    One day, feeling very discouraged, I borrowed one of the rare Drieu novels that had been allowed into the Rue d’Ulm library and went to read it on the terraces with Paris, bathed in winter sun, stretched out before me. The novel in question was Gilles, whose first part seemed to me to represent a pinnacle of the novelist’s art, forty years later I still stand by this judgement. I read it as Emma Bovary and all young people might, ardently identifying with the characters and attracted, wholly unconsciously, by the Freudian familial aspect of the novel. This fascination bordered on a form of hallucinatory intoxication. I had finally discovered my romantic hero, and we preyed on each other reciprocally. I convinced myself that I had left the trenches in 1917, and, back in Paris, I had seduced multitudes of women and broken many marriages. In the Paris of the 1920s and 30s I had been part of the surrealist movement and all its dramas, power and its intrigues, then, disowned by all those close to me I had joined with Fascism and Doriot (my parents had told me about his criminal life), I met my end in 1936, during the Spanish Civil War, emptying the magazine of my machine gun into an innumerable enemy, not the Whites, but the Reds (which meant my own family!).

    So dreamed a young left winger, intoxicated by the idea of self-destructive violence. It was also a way of breaking away from the rampant Stalinism of the time, which divided the world into good progressives and evil reactionaries. Reading Le Feu follet and Journal d’un homme trompé around the same time, I came to think that Drieu was the only one who had written the truth about sexuality, a topic that I believed, like everyone else at the time, to be central… Freud, who was never wrong, had written the Psychopathology of Everyday Life and Three Essays on Sexuality, Drieu, in all his fiction, sketched out a ‘Psychopathology of sexual life’, something of which we had great need, my classmates and I…
     

    I remember buying a copy of Decline of the West when I was around 14 or 15, it was still vaguely known by reputation at the time. I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat. You could find a lot of random books from the late 19th and early 20th century at cheap prices, I found a big single volume copy of Decline... from the 1930s (I guess it was abridged, but it was a fairly large book). I don't think I understood it and somehow lost it over the years.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_6JYQrpuyU&t=131s

    Here for example Houellebecq and Michel Onfray (a prominent French philosopher) are discussing the 'French collapse', Houellebecq says that awareness of decline is stronger in France than most other European countries and links it to technology, arguing that at a certain level of technological development a process of self-destruction seems to kick in. Onfray talks about the collapse of religion angle.

    There do seem to be a range of indicators that are no longer a positive direction, a turn around from what I would have expected about the future in the 2000s.

    I finished setting up a book version of Notes... on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notes-Understanding-Century-Pierre-Rochelle/dp/B0CWYDG361/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17S9UCVTOD2WO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Wl9RnBCyiotAfpzVO_KJU2FC0Hg4pagnSRbKeCRykLdPXJRX5jv3bHsy5pkdCvLyuFcgumF_nEINKUNQFAH90HRSNefw6n93tzH-cyeF7S4.k2EmYrD8wI4-N139-B8xNh66qs5kTME0A-0xtUVKqvY&dib_tag=se&keywords=drieu+la+rochelle+notes+for+understanding&qid=1711385796&sprefix=Drieu+La+Rochelle+Notes%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-1

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  1014. @Mr. XYZ
    @A123

    Mass ex-USSR immigration to Israel did not result in long-term wage suppression:

    https://www.brown.edu/Departments/Economics/Faculty/Rachel_Friedberg/Links/Friedberg%20QJE.pdf

    There was some short-term pain but apparently long-term the effects are mostly neutral or positive, other than possibly higher housing prices, but that was going to become a problem eventually anyway due to Israeli Jews breeding a lot.

    Brain drain isn't an issue if a country is a US ally since the US can help it out if necessary. And if a country is a US enemy or rival, then brain-draining it makes all the more sense in order to weaken it.

    The US implemented severe immigration restrictions in 1921 and 1924 and yet US fertility kept falling year after year even before the Great Depression hit. So, I'm unsure that restricting immigration would produce a baby boom. Am skeptical of this actually if the example of Japan over the last several decades is anything to go by. Israel, on the other hand, received a lot of immigration throughout its history and still has an extremely high total fertility rate.

    The assimilation model already appears to be working pretty well in California with its pan-enclavist system, no?

    https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism

    Giving each group (including whites) their own space can do wonders.

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    The assimilation model already appears to be working pretty well in California with its pan-enclavist system, no?

    No.

    California is on its way to collapse. Mobs are running wild (1). San Francisco is emptying (2)

    Giving each group (including whites) their own space can do wonders.

    The U.S. Constitution has been amended to make this impossible. One can not legally keep out undesirables. The mall riots (1) are primarily troublemakers travelling outside of “their space”.

    Mass ex-USSR immigration to Israel did not result in long-term wage suppression

    Israel is a fairly extreme outlier case. They received a shot of truly high end people from Russia when the door was opened. And they were in a rapid expansion phase for their national economy. This scenario is unlikely to repeat.

    20/20 hindsight, how much did Russia lose via this brain drain?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-hordes-teens-swarm-california-malls-shooting-and-stabbing-ensue

    (2) https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/san-francisco-downtown-closing/

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    No.

    California is on its way to collapse. Mobs are running wild (1). San Francisco is emptying (2)
     
    That's a consequence of soft-on-crime policies which should be scrapped. Even SF liberals are smart enough to see this, which is why they thankfully recalled that far-left dumbass Chesa Boudin.

    The U.S. Constitution has been amended to make this impossible. One can not legally keep out undesirables. The mall riots (1) are primarily troublemakers travelling outside of “their space”.
     
    Tough-on-crime policies can significantly improve things, no? Stop-and-frisk did wonders in NYC, no? Why isn't the GOP defending the constitutionality of that policy?

    Israel is a fairly extreme outlier case. They received a shot of truly high end people from Russia when the door was opened. And they were in a rapid expansion phase for their national economy. This scenario is unlikely to repeat.
     
    What was the economic effect on Israel of mass Mizrahi and Sephardi Jewish immigration in the 1950s and 1960s?

    20/20 hindsight, how much did Russia lose via this brain drain?
     
    A lot, but an Israeli or even a Jew would likely prioritize Israel's interests over Russia's interests, no?

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  1015. @LatW
    @Coconuts


    There are different themes in his writing, the fascist aesthetic of ‘beauty as violence’, and, a lot of later commentators pick up on this, some fascination with doom and suicide.
     
    There seems to be a strong subjective element here (but of course the vibe of those times is strongly felt upon his writing as well). Drieu seems to have had some ideological fluctuations (even though he remained faithful to his ideology in the end), he also sounds a bit tormented by what he had gathered from his life experiences (he seems to have had a somewhat of a bohemian lifestyle prior to his conversion to fascism, so his criticism of the modern urban life and the rejection of it can be viewed as reactionary, the longing and fascination with the vitality of the Middle Ages though is something that will resonate with many Europeans, regardless of their life experiences). Of course, he has a poet's soul and thus more sensitive.

    And Jünger socialized with avant-garde and surrealist thinkers in Paris. And some who, while interesting, may have been even more questionable from the point of view of National Socialist ethics. But this is understandable with intellectuals and writers.

    Others, such as Léon Degrelle, seem to have been much more consistent and confident in their political position (him being an intellectual as well, albeit not of the poetic type). Maybe because he, while still an intellectual, is more of a pure warrior type.


    some fascination with doom and suicide
     
    There is also a beautiful and natural acceptance of death in Drieu's essay. I'll quote with your permission (some of the thoughts here are almost pagan sounding and almost reminiscent of Nietzsche's affirmation of life):

    I am not protesting against the passage of time, in the way that vulgar reactionaries and archaists might, but I ask that people admit the fatality of time. For myself, having the gift of recognizing death whenever it makes its presence felt in life never prevents me from joyfully contemplating this mortal blooming. I would wish it were the same for others, because understanding is only complete when it is tempered with bitterness and joy only speaks truthfully to us if it leads to the final tragic masked ball. It is part of human decency and dignity to acknowledge that what begins ends, sparing itself in the process from childish self-deception. Leave to one side the stupid and rigid pride in the idea of progress and return to a more comprehensive philosophy of the seasons. This is both more useful and fitting. It becomes possible to appreciate that at the point where one thing dies, another is reborn.

    Also, hints of archeofuturism:

    Humanity is just as much here as there, in its past as in its present. The future may turn out to be richer in the qualities of the past than the present.

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    And Jünger socialized with avant-garde and surrealist thinkers in Paris. And some who, while interesting, may have been even more questionable from the point of view of National Socialist ethics. But this is understandable with intellectuals and writers.

    I get the impression that Junger was more grounded than Drieu. There is an interesting book by the guy who translated most of Junger’s works into French called Deux individus contre l’histoire which is a parallel study of Drieu and Junger, it’s one I plan to re-read when I have time.

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    Degrelle seems to have been more like the man of action that Drieu often wished he was, like a right-wing version of Malraux (Degrelle probably did even more fighting and risky stuff). I don’t know if Drieu ever got to know much about him, despite the shared language and culture I don’t remember many references to what was going on among the Walloons. I think after the war Degrelle’s profile grew.

    Originally I brought up this side of Drieu’s experience because of some of the earlier comments in the thread about how eager the French were to collaborate with Germany during the occupation. Whereas most of the pro-German French seem to have been aware of the riskiness of what they were doing from the beginning, then especially when the limits of what the Germans were prepared to offer became more clear.

    I’ll quote with your permission (some of the thoughts here are almost pagan sounding and almost reminiscent of Nietzsche’s affirmation of life):

    This is true, this is from Drieu’s commentary on an exchange of correspondence he had with Charles Maurras in early 1939. Drieu had been trying to convince Maurras to be less anti-German where he talks about these kinds of influences directly:

    ‘I have always thought that Germany represents a force for movement in Europe… Here I distinguish myself from Maurras, not because I think differently from him but because I tend to think on another plane. Maurras is a philosopher who wholly submits to political necessity… He never positions himself knowingly at the point of view of a wholly disinterested and objective philosophy of history. He will never consent, for example, to speak of violence as a necessity in itself; he will only ever speak of violence as an evil against which we must defend ourselves…

    Whereas I, following Nietzsche, Hegel and Schopenhauer, I return to a more primitive conception where evil is at the heart of life itself, mingled with good by some enigmatic connection… From my point of view Germany appears today as a necessary evil in Europe, the initiating movement, always renewing the experience of force without which the West drifts into the stupidity of a overly facile and optimistic rationalism, that of our intellectuals of the 18th century or our teachers, or our freemasons.’

    I thought about including it somewhere in the introduction but didn’t find a place to use it in the end.

    Two of the novels he wrote during the war definitely have more pagan and spiritual elements (there is a lot of discussion of the Upanishads in one of them, it is part of the internal monologue of the main character), and in his diaries and final texts you can see he is thinking more about this.

    Humanity is just as much here as there, in its past as in its present. The future may turn out to be richer in the qualities of the past than the present.

    This is quite an important idea. Drieu raises it a few times, I think there is a part towards the end of the Notes… where it reappears. I’ve noticed that in recent studies of fascism they place a lot of emphasis on the idea of palingenesis, the idea of rebirth, and aspects of the past being used as a source of inspiration for the content of the future. This is how the idea of fascism as a form of ‘reactionary modernism’ seems to have come about. Drieu is a good example of it.

    I came across an interesting book recently that looks at the influence of Georges Sorel on French fascism, especially in the field of art and aesthetics. Sorel and some of his followers came from radical syndicalism originally, so the far-left, but were promoting a revolution against Progress and democracy in order to create a society of ‘warriors and producers’.

    Sorel had extended his theory of political myth by creating an anti-rational, anti-Enlightenment concept of the sublime which looked to various influences (Classical Greece, some aspects of Christianity, regionalism and primitivism as well as ‘heroic labour’). It looks like this was influential on Drieu, Sorel and his followers like Berth were kind of thought leaders in the anti-decadence movement when Drieu was at university studying politics.

    I think this may explain some of Drieu’s interpretations and choices in the literary and cultural sections, it might be an interesting topic to go into.

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    @Coconuts


    Degrelle seems to have been more like the man of action that Drieu often wished he was, like a right-wing version of Malraux (Degrelle probably did even more fighting and risky stuff).
     
    Don't know about Malraux but Drieu strikes me as very different from Degrelle - both in terms of the themes that preoccupy him and in the genre of writing, of course. Degrelle is a soldier, a politician, an ideologue, definitely a "man of action", as you say (and as is in line with his ideology), but Drieu is a poet, a writer, maybe a cultural critic.

    (Btw, Degrelle was in Narva, Estonia, and wrote about it in his diaries).


    Whereas most of the pro-German French seem to have been aware of the riskiness of what they were doing from the beginning, then especially when the limits of what the Germans were prepared to offer became more clear.
     
    For us it became clear quite early, already the first year, I think. But this is a bit similar to how the Latvian Thunder Cross party (our own fascist org) felt about the German occupation (this org in the 1930s had relations with the Romanian Iron Guard).

    Our situation was even more sensitive due to our history with the Baltic Germans (the Thunder Cross had been somewhat anti-German in the 1930s). Even at first, in 1941, the collaboration between them and the German occupation regime was primarily tactical in nature. The Germans acknowledged that the Thunder Cross had political objectives that diverged from their own (even though, technically as National Socialists (or rather fascists), they were seen as potential intermediaries for the German leadership). But they had previously been somewhat hostile to both Jews and Germans. So it was an ambiguous relationship and a short one because by August 1941, the Germans banned them. The leader was actually arrested by Gestapo for continuing with the underground nationalist publications and then sent to Dachau. But he survived.


    I thought about including it somewhere in the introduction but didn’t find a place to use it in the end.
     
    That quote was really cool, just probably difficult to place in the right way. I really like the quote he used right before his death ("Yes I am no ordinary patriot, no limited nationalist. I am an internationalist. I am not only a Frenchman, I am a European. You are Europeans too, whether you know it or not."). That is an awesome, powerful quote that would resonate with quite a few.

    Two of the novels he wrote during the war definitely have more pagan and spiritual elements (there is a lot of discussion of the Upanishads in one of them, it is part of the internal monologue of the main character), and in his diaries and final texts you can see he is thinking more about this.
     
    That's interesting, because it seems that in the Notes.. he approaches it more carefully, he shows appreciation for both Christianity and paganism (he does note that Christianity is partly derived from paganism or at least related to it in the origin). But then the whole ethos of his writing where he praises the vitality and the connectedness to the "body" and Nature, during the Middle Ages and in general as a goal of man, there it seems more pagan in its essence. Maybe later in life some of these types turn a bit more spiritual.

    Drieu raises it a few times, I think there is a part towards the end of the Notes… where it reappears.

     

    Yes, I noticed, too, that it was mentioned twice, iirc, it reappeared in the end so I thought that was meaningful.

    the idea of palingenesis, the idea of rebirth, and aspects of the past being used as a source of inspiration for the content of the future
     
    Very interesting, thanks - I had not heard of this term, but I've identified this trend a lot before (it appears in our groups a lot as well). Look:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenetic_ultranationalism


    Sorel and some of his followers came from radical syndicalism originally, so the far-left, but were promoting a revolution against Progress and democracy in order to create a society of ‘warriors and producers’.
     
    I can see those "working class" roots there, although this does sound more leftist than National Socialism. Although it does remind me a little of the Green fascism that I mentioned a while back regarding the Wehrbauerconcept (a kind of a forward positioned German soldier-peasant on the outskirts of the Reich - which to me as a Latvian is both scary and fascinating at once) and the ideas of Richard Walther Darré (organic country living - one is also a kind of a "producer" in that context, very much so).

    Sorel had extended his theory of political myth by creating an anti-rational, anti-Enlightenment concept of the sublime which looked to various influences (Classical Greece, some aspects of Christianity, regionalism and primitivism as well as ‘heroic labour’).
     
    This is interesting, because I was just thinking about this the other day, as I was reading Drieu - I was wondering if it would be possible to synthesize things from different eras or even different ideologies to create something for the current times and the future. "Heroic labor" is maybe a bit too exalted and idealistic and definitely a bit Commie sounding, and probably wouldn't be embraced by today's masses (certainly one doesn't want to push it on people and who will even volunteer for that?), however, as a purely idealistic idea, it's not bad. Imagine that combined with nationalism? But in a similar vein, there are ideas from the past that would be interesting to see if they can still live. Purely experimental, of course. :)

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  1016. @LatW
    @silviosilver

    Hello, nice to see you.


    Interesting that you chose to highlight this sentence.
     
    Actually, I was just trying to defend the writer - Coconuts was describing how that time period may have been affecting the writer and that his writing was seeped in "gloom and [themes of] suicide". Because that was mentioned and it sounded a bit harsh, I wanted to add a somewhat "lighter" note in Drieu's writing - the concept of "philosophy of seasons" - this reframes the idea of death, removing its finality and connecting it to the affirmation of life through the idea of cyclicality.

    I’ve never really understood this fascination with cyclicality – or more to the point, why it’s considered so much superior.
     
    In the ancient worldview, this is just how the world and time are perceived - as creation, destruction and rebirth (as opposed to linear), but in the context of this particular essay, the writer is critical of modernity and the things that are carried into human self-perception through progress.

    Can’t I appreciate bitterness and tragedy and finality at the same time as I work to improve those things which can be improved?
     
    Well, within the "philosophy of seasons", this "finality" would be countered by affirmation of life (or maybe what he calls "mortal blooming"). I think that he was not implying that one cannot improve on the technical or scientific side of life, but to rather not view these as absolute or as an end in themselves. That humanity not only gained things, but also lost part of itself through progress.

    It’s like you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a mud hut with witch doctor medicine or you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a HVAC apartment with scientific and state-funded medicine.
     
    One can appreciate cyclicality one anywhere, at any time (or during special times or through a ritual), because, from the anthropological and mythical point of view, cyclicality simply means the repetition and the re-living of the moment of (the original) creation. This is what is celebrated in the Summer Solstice. The cyclicality of creation, destruction and rebirth can be repeated over and over.

    When it comes to pure technological progress, by the 1930s, we already lived very comfortable lives as the most important things had already been invented. Maybe having experienced the more negative sides of the late industrial era (WWI), he reverts to the Middle Ages (for example, the Song of Roland,) to find some simplicity and what he calls "the old human warmth" (of the old artisans and the relationships of that time or the valiance of an individual knight versus modern warfare).

    Isn’t the latter obviously better than the former? Why is it such a crime to describe it as “progress” then? What is “stupid” about it?
     
    He is not talking about technology per se, but how this technology affects human relationships, the human soul and even relationship with Nature and the divine. How excessive rationalism, reliance only on reason leads man to isolation, almost a kind of an alienation as "[..] the universe was no longer understood as a great being filled with enigmatic resources, secret immensity and the infinite."

    During that period Oswald Spengler's ideas were floating around. And already Spengler noted that energy that was once directed inwards, towards the mind and the spirituality, is now being directed outwards, towards a political life (demonstrated in modern ideologies). Rationalism over instinct.

    Destiny, fatalism, decline, decay, entry into the age of materialism, the death of a civilization, death following life, the death of the West - those are all Spenglerian themes (that resonate with Drieu La Rochelle). These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt. Spengler's idea of a civilization as an organic sequence, as something blossoming and fading, sounds biological and Drieu has a similar theme surrounding the acceptance and denial of the body. In his essay, this is related to city dwelling. I agree that city dwelling would be hard to give up, or maybe it could be changed somehow. Maybe it is senseless idealism.

    But I do agree that sometimes this fixation on the past or the idealization of a certain period of the past (e.g., the Middle Ages) can seem a bit too subjective, too much of a denial of the unique and meaningful moment in the present, the people who lived then may have wanted to exchange with us and live at our time instead, as we ourselves pine for those times (that we have never even experienced). But it seems that for some on the far right, who enjoy exploring the concept of archeofuturism, this might be interesting.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Coconuts

    Gradual growth of wisdom is one aspect of appreciation of the cycles in life. They seem different each time as much because we have changed as much as the circumstances have actually changed. The cycle makes our personal evolution easier to recognize which may help us actively actively shape it.

  1017. @John Johnson
    @Matra

    Oh gosh don't talk about that here.

    The Tucker following boomers will throw a tizzy over ruining their childish fantasy of Russia as a tradcon state.

    They really don't like videos like this one:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oykhHJshOE

    That is Moscow and not the middle east.

    The Fox zombots will get even more upset if you point out how the Orthodox Slavs are in decline while the Russian Muslims have an expanding population.

    Goes against the narrative of their dwarf hero somehow saving the West by killing Slavs.

    Dwarf lovers also believe that the Jews are the cause of the invasion and Putin is somehow sticking it to them by being a major supplier of oil and diamonds to Israel. Does that make any sense? Of course not but they'll revert to their #1 counter-argument:
    U MUST BE A JEW!!!!!!

    I found the ultimate video that pisses them off. It's Putin at the world holocaust forum with his pal Netenayhu:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHA66ahrEk8

    Look at those globalist pals sitting together.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    Zelensky, the “inveterate Jew hater” according to our resident expert on such matters kremlinstoogeA123, also attended the world holocaust forum in 2019. Here’s what he was quoted as saying there:

    “The Jews managed to build a country, to elevate it, without anything except people and brains,” Zelensky, an actor who was elected in May, told The Times of Israel. “The Jewish people in Israel is a unique people, a unique population. It has economic strength. There are many countries in the world that can protect themselves, but Israel, such a small country, can not only protect itself, but facing external threats, can respond.” Despite “being under the threat of war, they enjoy every day,” Zelensky added. “I’ve seen it.” Zelensky said he visited Israel many times when he was an actor.
    “I have relatives there — an aunt of my mother, and her relatives. They moved to Israel, some of them, about 10-15 years ago. Maybe longer. At the end of the ’90s,” he told The Times of Israel. “So I was in Israel many times. For meetings, business meetings, TV meetings and concerts — in my previous life.” Asked whether he did comedy there, Zelensky answered: “Yes. In Tel Aviv, in Beersheva, in Haifa, in Jerusalem. In so many cities. So I know Israel. I know people there.”

    So much for the crazy BS that kremlinstoogeA123 is prone to try and spread about Zelensky at this blog site.

    https://www.jta.org/2020/01/21/global/ukraines-jewish-president-heaps-praise-on-israel-in-pre-visit-interview

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    The Putin bootlickers brigade can't agree on if Zelensky is a Nazi Jew or if Putin is a secret Nazi hunting a Jew...while having Jews in his cabinet and maintaining a close relationship with Netanyahu.

    I've had multiple Putin bootlickers tell me that he is playing a long term game with the Jews.

    I guess that would be a 20+ year game where he is friends with them. Putin supporters are insane.

    I honestly think most of his supporters are like Anglin.

    They are really just nihilists that hate the world for their place in it. They want to believe Putin is a force against Jewish globalists even though it is Orthodox men that die in this war.

    I've asked numerous times on Anglin's blog as to how this war sticks it to Western Jews. Not a single person has given a rational explanation. Their number one response is to call me a Jew and their second most common response is to suggest that I am a Jewish agent.

    They seem to be Whites that lack logical thinking skills. I'm not even convinced that most of them are White. I suspect a lot of these White nationalist groups actually have a lot of mixed race and half-Whites that like to think they are White or are "fellow travelers" as leftists would say. I've been around Germanics and these guys are not Germanic. They aren't able to separate their emotion.

  1018. @Dmitry
    @songbird

    They an identity with strategies, military techniques. But they don't have fixed culture identity like a nationality which was settled. They are more like today example of mafia clans, like transnational cartels.

    Almost immediately after the Viking warriors become servants of the French king, they were speaking French and forget their Norse language. They copy the Romanesque style for their art and literature from Franks. The French architecture, from Franks.

    Anglo-Saxon England is conquered by French-speaking Normans in 1066, England doesn't become French language speaking with centuries of Norman kings. French architecture, cathedrals and language comes to England. After some time, descendants of Normans become Anglo-Saxon language people.

    In France, they became French after accepting land in France and servants to France's king. They become Anglo-Saxons after conquering England. They have the high level of cultural openness and become the identity of the people they conquer.

    Normans in the Kingdom of Sicily, created the tolerant multicultural society, which had influence of Byzantine, Frank and Islamic culture. King Roger II sounds like he believed almost dual Christian-Muslim identity.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman%E2%80%93Arab%E2%80%93Byzantine_culture#Key_figures

    Replies: @songbird

    French architecture, cathedrals and language comes to England.

    The architecture of England and the Normans original home was probably pretty unsophisticated to start with. But France would have had more survival from the Roman stone-building tradition. The so-called Norman keep became quite popular in Ireland among natives.

    In France, they became French after accepting land in France and servants to France’s king.

    I would speculate that the king took hostages to ensure their cooperation. This would have resulted in the children being integrated.

    They become Anglo-Saxons after conquering England.

    It took a while though. Probably sensible not to appear too foreign, for too long. The Qing spoke Manchu.

    Still, I wonder to what extent the idea of France as a center of etiquette may have been influenced by Norman affinities.

    Normans in the Kingdom of Sicily, created the tolerant multicultural society,

    it was a variegated place, quite far from their center of power.

    That is funny how Roger (was it?) had black guards.

  1019. @Dmitry
    @songbird

    "Human capital" are terms which relates to your employees' talent, experience, education, social network, emotional network.

    It's not related to "IQ theory". Some of the ways businesses do human capital formation, are investing in the emotional health of your employees, improving the emotional connections, improving team building. The strength of the team connections in a company or in an economy can be seen as part of the human capital.

    In the post-industrial economy people will argue investing in the human capital of the economy's employees could be more important in some ways than the physical capital (machines) of the industrial economy.

    There is an article about the topic with some criticism of the concept.
    https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/032715/what-human-capital-and-how-it-used.asp

    Replies: @songbird

    It’s not related to “IQ theory”.

    originally, it was very tied to domestic development and education. But when the focus of growth shifted to immigration, then it came more to mean the importation of people.

    Of course, the state ideology is blank-slatist, so in a way it translates more to empty credentialism and degree mills. But within a certain meliue (AK and XYZ and I think Kaplan) it is more synonymous with a class of IQ.

    To some, high IQ, like genius-level. To others, just anything starting with a normative 100 IQ and above. Something like a Filipina nurse.

    XYZ seems to be a little loose in his definition, though. To him it seems to include secular Somalis.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @songbird


    mean the importation of people.
     
    There is some use in relation to emigration/immigration "human capital flight".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight

    This article relates to the discussion about Huguenots we have earlier in the thread.

    But usually human capital relates to policy of investment in education, skills of your current workers.

    -

    The language of human capital is quite anti-humanist compared to Marxism, as it says the human is just another machine, which you need to input.

    But, in the actual management, the idea of human capital is usually meaning to support humanist and positive policies, like giving free gym membership to your employees. Even funding office parties, you can say "we are investing in human capital".

  1020. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow

    At the moment there is no unambiguous evidence suggesting who ordered and organized Crocus terrorist attack. At the beginning, it appeared that chances are 50:50 that is was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists or Ukies. If it’s ISIS, it means that the CIA did it in collaboration with Mossad, as ISIS is a Mossad subsidiary (that’s why ISIS never ever attacked any Israeli targets). If it’s Ukies, it means that the CIA worked with the MI6. Distinction without a difference.

    As evidence accumulates, the Islamic hypothesis looks less and less likely. One, Islamic terrorists are usually on a suicide mission, never have pre-planned escape route and never work for money. In contrast, the perps worked for money and had pre-planned escape route. Two, the perps tried to flee to Ukieland, were captured in Bryansk region. Three, the Ukie regime and its American puppeteers repeatedly denied Ukie involvement and work hard to direct the attention to ISIS. As we all know, it ain’t true unless the government denies it. What’s more, the US if often reluctant to blame ISIS (likely not to smear its Mossad overlords). This time the US government immediately suggested ISIS, which likely means that it was trying to direct the blame away from its other subsidiaries.

    Right now about ~80% of the RF residents and even greater fraction of troops on the front lines believes that this crime was ordered and organized by Ukies. Sometimes vox populi is indeed vox Dei.

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Beckow, @YetAnotherAnon, @Philip Owen

    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Philip Owen


    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.
     
    He didn’t. But the warning was pretty vague. Now, imagine yourself a president of a country the size of Russia with ~150 million inhabitants. What would you do after receiving this warning?

    Besides, whatever the US says to Russia is virtually guaranteed to be a lie. Like current harping about ISIS and non-culpability of Kiev scum.

    Replies: @A123

    , @Gerard1234
    @Philip Owen


    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.
     
    Typical Phillip, dimwitted bestial idiot clown.
    The "warning" was effectively a non-warning . Anyway inference of it was because it was national public holiday weekend plus the election the next week. NOTHING to do with events this week.

    Going on the theory they only delayed this because of the public announcement, and security services were absent/negligent requires investigation.....not stupid western propaganda statements.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  1021. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    I don't believe anybody ever established where the ISI* seed funding came from. I always thought they were a weird Israel Saudi partnered project. Just like Ukraine, this terror incident is entirely Russia's business as far as I'm concerned. The US NATO EU &c. should just keep their big mouths shut. They are serial liars and should be ignored 99.9% of the time if possible.

    Has ISI* ever done one attack in Saudi, Qatar, or such places?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Philip Owen

    Saudi and Qatar were the original funders of the original ISIS. Saudi even sent volunteers (suchas prisoners) to join them in Syria. RT used to be full of it.

  1022. @YetAnotherAnon
    @sudden death

    "in the village of Teply exactly near the border with Belarus in different direction from the road which was leading to UA"

    https://t.me/llordofwar/308856


    "they were apprehended near the settlement Teploe (Тёплое), NOT Teply (Тёплый), which is the one by the Belarusian border. It is about 380th km. of Kyevsky highway.

    From the place where the chase began there was a direct road only to Ukraine, and they had already passed the turn to Bryansk, and subsequently to Gomel, Belarus at that time.

    The pro-🇺🇦 sources deliberately misdirected Western audiences, since the settlement names are very similar in name, but different enough for native Russian/Ukrainian speakers."
     
    Still, I'm sure it's an innocent mistake...

    Replies: @Beckow, @sudden death, @Philip Owen

    But then the Belarussians saying the Tajiks turned up at their border (much more sense) and were turned back. Some accounts place them a lot closer to Belarus than Ukraine. Also, a Ukrainian “window” is no good without a Russian one as well.

    Why weren’t the Tajiks armed and fighting back?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Philip Owen


    Why weren’t the Tajiks armed and fighting back?
     
    At least one was armed and shooting at Russians trying to arrest him. The other three tried to escape into the forest and were captured there.
  1023. @Philip Owen
    @AnonfromTN

    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.

    He didn’t. But the warning was pretty vague. Now, imagine yourself a president of a country the size of Russia with ~150 million inhabitants. What would you do after receiving this warning?

    Besides, whatever the US says to Russia is virtually guaranteed to be a lie. Like current harping about ISIS and non-culpability of Kiev scum.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AnonfromTN



    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.
     
    He didn’t. But the warning was pretty vague. Now, imagine yourself a president of a country the size of Russia with ~150 million inhabitants. What would you do after receiving this warning?
     
    Exactly right. Neither the U.S. nor Russia had sufficient detail to stop the attack.

    "Vague" is only actionable intelligence if the response can have an impact. For example, U.S. State Dept. asking the handful of Americans in Moscow to stay away from crowds for a few days. Those following this advice benefited from it.

    However, if Putin shuts down Moscow on "vague", the plot does not take place. When things reopen the risk comes back. The intelligence was not actionable for Russia.

    PEACE 😇
  1024. Would like to advocate my own fringe theory to explain this gentleman’s name:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivar_the_Boneless

    (Naturally, zero evidence.)

    I think it had to do with him not having bone-skates.

  1025. @Philip Owen
    @YetAnotherAnon

    But then the Belarussians saying the Tajiks turned up at their border (much more sense) and were turned back. Some accounts place them a lot closer to Belarus than Ukraine. Also, a Ukrainian "window" is no good without a Russian one as well.

    Why weren't the Tajiks armed and fighting back?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Why weren’t the Tajiks armed and fighting back?

    At least one was armed and shooting at Russians trying to arrest him. The other three tried to escape into the forest and were captured there.

  1026. A123 says: • Website
    @AnonfromTN
    @Philip Owen


    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.
     
    He didn’t. But the warning was pretty vague. Now, imagine yourself a president of a country the size of Russia with ~150 million inhabitants. What would you do after receiving this warning?

    Besides, whatever the US says to Russia is virtually guaranteed to be a lie. Like current harping about ISIS and non-culpability of Kiev scum.

    Replies: @A123

    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.

    He didn’t. But the warning was pretty vague. Now, imagine yourself a president of a country the size of Russia with ~150 million inhabitants. What would you do after receiving this warning?

    Exactly right. Neither the U.S. nor Russia had sufficient detail to stop the attack.

    “Vague” is only actionable intelligence if the response can have an impact. For example, U.S. State Dept. asking the handful of Americans in Moscow to stay away from crowds for a few days. Those following this advice benefited from it.

    However, if Putin shuts down Moscow on “vague”, the plot does not take place. When things reopen the risk comes back. The intelligence was not actionable for Russia.

    PEACE 😇

  1027. Prostitutes per McDonald’s in Europe.

    reddit.com/r/mapporn

  1028. @LatW
    @silviosilver

    Hello, nice to see you.


    Interesting that you chose to highlight this sentence.
     
    Actually, I was just trying to defend the writer - Coconuts was describing how that time period may have been affecting the writer and that his writing was seeped in "gloom and [themes of] suicide". Because that was mentioned and it sounded a bit harsh, I wanted to add a somewhat "lighter" note in Drieu's writing - the concept of "philosophy of seasons" - this reframes the idea of death, removing its finality and connecting it to the affirmation of life through the idea of cyclicality.

    I’ve never really understood this fascination with cyclicality – or more to the point, why it’s considered so much superior.
     
    In the ancient worldview, this is just how the world and time are perceived - as creation, destruction and rebirth (as opposed to linear), but in the context of this particular essay, the writer is critical of modernity and the things that are carried into human self-perception through progress.

    Can’t I appreciate bitterness and tragedy and finality at the same time as I work to improve those things which can be improved?
     
    Well, within the "philosophy of seasons", this "finality" would be countered by affirmation of life (or maybe what he calls "mortal blooming"). I think that he was not implying that one cannot improve on the technical or scientific side of life, but to rather not view these as absolute or as an end in themselves. That humanity not only gained things, but also lost part of itself through progress.

    It’s like you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a mud hut with witch doctor medicine or you can appreciate bitterness, finality etc while living in a HVAC apartment with scientific and state-funded medicine.
     
    One can appreciate cyclicality one anywhere, at any time (or during special times or through a ritual), because, from the anthropological and mythical point of view, cyclicality simply means the repetition and the re-living of the moment of (the original) creation. This is what is celebrated in the Summer Solstice. The cyclicality of creation, destruction and rebirth can be repeated over and over.

    When it comes to pure technological progress, by the 1930s, we already lived very comfortable lives as the most important things had already been invented. Maybe having experienced the more negative sides of the late industrial era (WWI), he reverts to the Middle Ages (for example, the Song of Roland,) to find some simplicity and what he calls "the old human warmth" (of the old artisans and the relationships of that time or the valiance of an individual knight versus modern warfare).

    Isn’t the latter obviously better than the former? Why is it such a crime to describe it as “progress” then? What is “stupid” about it?
     
    He is not talking about technology per se, but how this technology affects human relationships, the human soul and even relationship with Nature and the divine. How excessive rationalism, reliance only on reason leads man to isolation, almost a kind of an alienation as "[..] the universe was no longer understood as a great being filled with enigmatic resources, secret immensity and the infinite."

    During that period Oswald Spengler's ideas were floating around. And already Spengler noted that energy that was once directed inwards, towards the mind and the spirituality, is now being directed outwards, towards a political life (demonstrated in modern ideologies). Rationalism over instinct.

    Destiny, fatalism, decline, decay, entry into the age of materialism, the death of a civilization, death following life, the death of the West - those are all Spenglerian themes (that resonate with Drieu La Rochelle). These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt. Spengler's idea of a civilization as an organic sequence, as something blossoming and fading, sounds biological and Drieu has a similar theme surrounding the acceptance and denial of the body. In his essay, this is related to city dwelling. I agree that city dwelling would be hard to give up, or maybe it could be changed somehow. Maybe it is senseless idealism.

    But I do agree that sometimes this fixation on the past or the idealization of a certain period of the past (e.g., the Middle Ages) can seem a bit too subjective, too much of a denial of the unique and meaningful moment in the present, the people who lived then may have wanted to exchange with us and live at our time instead, as we ourselves pine for those times (that we have never even experienced). But it seems that for some on the far right, who enjoy exploring the concept of archeofuturism, this might be interesting.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Coconuts

    These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt.

    I found another interesting quote about Drieu’s work. It comes from Jacques Lecarme, who was a literature professor at the Sorbonne until he retired in the 2010s. It is about first discovering the novel Gilles while he was a student in the 1950s, at the height of Sartre’s influence.

    His father had been a professor as well, and the family were quite committed Communists:

    [MORE]

    An attentive reader of Malraux, Aragon and Sartre, I reserved my admiration for the great figures of the Resistance, and felt only repulsion for collaborators. A second discovery was even more decisive. Everyone knows that being twenty is never the finest time of our lives. I found myself at the Rue d’Ulm (the École normale supérieure), a fine establishment where a heavy Communist and Marxist influence predominated, something I was resolutely allergic to. For the most part our professors believed that anyone who was not a Stalinist was a Fascist; the great writers of the time, Sartre and Aragon in particular, passed judgement and excommunicated in the name of world revolution. On the opposing side to the Communists, Malraux had given up writing novels and had sought refuge first in a museum, then in a government ministry.

    One day, feeling very discouraged, I borrowed one of the rare Drieu novels that had been allowed into the Rue d’Ulm library and went to read it on the terraces with Paris, bathed in winter sun, stretched out before me. The novel in question was Gilles, whose first part seemed to me to represent a pinnacle of the novelist’s art, forty years later I still stand by this judgement. I read it as Emma Bovary and all young people might, ardently identifying with the characters and attracted, wholly unconsciously, by the Freudian familial aspect of the novel. This fascination bordered on a form of hallucinatory intoxication. I had finally discovered my romantic hero, and we preyed on each other reciprocally. I convinced myself that I had left the trenches in 1917, and, back in Paris, I had seduced multitudes of women and broken many marriages. In the Paris of the 1920s and 30s I had been part of the surrealist movement and all its dramas, power and its intrigues, then, disowned by all those close to me I had joined with Fascism and Doriot (my parents had told me about his criminal life), I met my end in 1936, during the Spanish Civil War, emptying the magazine of my machine gun into an innumerable enemy, not the Whites, but the Reds (which meant my own family!).

    So dreamed a young left winger, intoxicated by the idea of self-destructive violence. It was also a way of breaking away from the rampant Stalinism of the time, which divided the world into good progressives and evil reactionaries. Reading Le Feu follet and Journal d’un homme trompé around the same time, I came to think that Drieu was the only one who had written the truth about sexuality, a topic that I believed, like everyone else at the time, to be central… Freud, who was never wrong, had written the Psychopathology of Everyday Life and Three Essays on Sexuality, Drieu, in all his fiction, sketched out a ‘Psychopathology of sexual life’, something of which we had great need, my classmates and I…

    I remember buying a copy of Decline of the West when I was around 14 or 15, it was still vaguely known by reputation at the time. I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat. You could find a lot of random books from the late 19th and early 20th century at cheap prices, I found a big single volume copy of Decline… from the 1930s (I guess it was abridged, but it was a fairly large book). I don’t think I understood it and somehow lost it over the years.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real:

    Here for example Houellebecq and Michel Onfray (a prominent French philosopher) are discussing the ‘French collapse’, Houellebecq says that awareness of decline is stronger in France than most other European countries and links it to technology, arguing that at a certain level of technological development a process of self-destruction seems to kick in. Onfray talks about the collapse of religion angle.

    There do seem to be a range of indicators that are no longer a positive direction, a turn around from what I would have expected about the future in the 2000s.

    I finished setting up a book version of Notes… on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback:

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Coconuts

    "Civilizational decline", was one of the most mainstream popular themes of French culture, in the 19th and 20th century. It's probably, why these theories which support the believe of "civilizational decline" like Marxism were very popular in France even without political power.

    You can see, "civilizational decline" was one of the most popular themes of France's culture production, even in the economically successful time of the Trente Glorieuses in France's art, films and writing, usually with Marxist framework of understanding.

    Latin countries' culture has been more obsessed about "civilizational decline", the lifestyle in those countries have probably been more resilient against negative parts of the industrialization.

    -

    In terms of the "food civilization", countries like France, Italy and Spain have been more resilient to continue old traditions under industrialization, maybe less than Japan.

    Postcommunist countries like Russia and Poland already have far higher obesity rate than France even although 35 years ago there were still limited food supply events in the communist countries.
    https://data.worldobesity.org/rankings/

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Coconuts

    Why don't those guys just go to mass? The last time I attended a Catholic mass the entire production was over in a half hour. It's nothing like some of those English sects where it's a five hour ordeal. You could go only once a month and that is like practically nothing.

    , @LatW
    @Coconuts

    Very interesting quote, shows how intellectually stifling their Communist environment must have been, even if it is typically portrayed as super free and liberating. They must have resented and feared anything even close to fascist like the plague...

    Did you read the novel Gilles? You know this theme of the jaded person's search for purity... in real life it really annoys me, because a lot of those people have, frankly, been total libertines and have even caused harm so their overstated criticism of the modern lifestyles, politics and customs - in which they themselves wallowed plentifully - strikes me as hypocritical, but when it is written in such beautiful and introspective prose, as with Drieu, it seems completely different (more pure, more romantic and idealistic). And the final, radical step is also cool as a kind of a catharsis or resolution.

    Interestingly, a small publishing house in BC has translated it:
    https://tikhanovlibrary.substack.com/p/gilles-pierre-drieu-la-rochelle

    I wonder how accurately it is conveying those times and how much it is author's imagination and reflection. I'm sure it portrays that historic time vividly, but he also seems to have a somewhat heightened perception of his surroundings and his cultural background and the social problems at hand. Meaning, he may have portrayed things as crazier than they were (which I like). Even during a period of crisis such as a civil war.

    I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat.
     

    Those are the best. Btw, there is a British comedy about one of those called Black Books.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

     

    I recall the same thing, that some at the university looked down on it a little, maybe because they didn't like the statement that the West "has declined" (as it would require them to explain the validity of the several post-modernist schools of philosophy that came later and which they treated as superior to Spengler). Somehow it felt that it was not put in the same higher category as, for example, Nietzsche (apparently he was laid to rest holding copies of Nietzsche's Zarathustra and Faust). But it is sometimes referred to in right leaning writings.

    By the way, the title of the book (Der Untergang des Abendlandes) should not be translated as "The Decline of the West" but as "The Decline of the Evening Lands" - not sure there is an English version for that (Occidental lands is a bit different), in my language, too, we call Western Europe the "evening lands" (same as in German here) because that is where the sun sets, where daylight fades. Does it not include Eastern Europe as well these days? That's an honest question to ask my friends...


    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real
     
    That is very interesting, because certain social trends seem to have accelerated in the last decade or so.

    You know what fascinates me, is that there were authors already back in the 1930s commenting on the very same things that are being commented on at our time (family relations, urbanization, emancipation, egotism, atomization, etc) - and yet it seems that things should've been better in the 1930s. But they seem to have had these issues already then, possibly even in the late 19th century (in some strata). I recall reading a book from the 1930s Latvia that was ardently antifeminist, and it surprised me, as I had been under the illusion that things had been different back then (of course, they were, but the main themes were already there, in the city).

    It's just that the Great Replacement wasn't yet taking place then. One can possibly learn to live with the sexual degeneracy (and we've learned to live with individualism), but the actual physical replacement will be it. There is just no way around that.

    Btw, it's quite funny that Macron likes Houellebecq. It's interesting that he feels that France is more sensitive to this, I've been thinking that it might also be the French character - they seem to be more open than other Europeans, their critique seems stronger, others seem a bit more timid. I was recently reading some political comments on French websites - they are really not afraid to express their opinion, even if it's not flattering. It's quite amusing, I love it! :)


    I finished setting up a book version of Notes… on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback
     
    Well, I went ahead and bought it, because the language just flows so beautifully, and it's a nice cover, too - the healthy European man in all his splendor! :) Probably better than some crazy surrealist art. :)

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @LatW
    @Coconuts

    The Oswald Spengler society awarded the Spengler prize to Jordan Peterson in 2022. For the "ruthless analysis of the decay of our civilization” and because Peterson “fights for holding on to the very own basic values of our civilization,” which makes his work “increasingly compatible and complementary to that of Spengler.”

    https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/jordan-peterson-spengler-prize/

    Also, check this out (the one David Engels had a guest lecture at our uni as well, his work is mostly in German):

    https://www.amazon.com/Michel-Houellebecq-Spengler-Untergang-Abendlandes/dp/3944872916

    Replies: @Coconuts

  1029. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    what do you mean by this specifically? How much more cosmopolitan can we get?

     

    The US West coast, the BosWash megalopolis, Florida, the Southwestern US (including Texas), and the Chicago metropolitan area are good examples of what we can expect. Though I would strongly prefer much more well-behaved blacks, at least comparable to Hispanics. Bad black behavior is a very serious problem and ruins things for everyone, including for law-abiding blacks. I don't want more ill-behaved people becoming over here (and to be fair, the problem isn't as much with immigrants and their descendants as it is with black descendants of slaves, unfortunately).

    I am inclined to think no.

    I don’t think that the US is optimal at utilizing “human capital.” This is the center of DIE. It’s the place where enormous sums are transferred to unproductive ends. Where it is basically illegal to test for IQ directly, and where lawfare reigns supreme. Where the super-woke Google gemini was created. Where we warehouse vast numbers of people in both prisons and schools.
     
    The US and West certainly have a lot to improve upon. No doubt about that. But other than China, there really isn't anyone out there in the world who can create anywhere near as much elite science as the West can create. Even if some of it is trash, there's still a huge amount of good stuff out there. (FWIW, I consider Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan to be a part of the West. They are at least culturally, albeit not genetically.)

    There are many alternatives to a woke IQ-shredder. I thought the internet was created to let smart people communicate the world over? And it would seem possible to create international cities in other places, rather than transforming whole countries for some vague economic ends.
     
    I'm not really convinced that the West is an IQ shredder. Cities are arguably IQ shredders, but that's true for cities everywhere, including in the developing world.

    If you want to create international cities, then go ahead, but it would be nice for smart Westerners (and other smart people) to breed more so that we could actually have more people to create and settle such new charter cities.

    Besides I don’t think that there is a single country that has pursued this idea of granting citizenship to vast numbers of people, which has not become open to all in an obviously unsustainable manner.
     
    Canada appears to work pretty well, as do both Australia and New Zealand. Well, other than their extremely high housing prices. And their Woke lunacy. But they're still selective about whom they let in.

    I want to be a bit more generous towards working-class immigrants than the above countries are but still aggressively focus on securing cognitive elites. While cognitive elites could do research elsewhere and cooperate with each other via the Internet, e-mail, et cetera, one might still wonder whether it would be easier for cognitive elites to physically have access to each other. Or could a comparable Hive Mind effect genuinely be achieved in an exclusively virtual manner?

    There's also the fact that career opportunities for talented people outside of the West might often be significantly less--and less appealing--than they would be for them in the West. Good luck being a researcher somewhere like India or Russia and actually getting paid well for this. In the West, though, it's easier, though still not bulletproof because Western academia unfortunately treats its adjuncts like total crap.

    Replies: @songbird

    The US West coast, the BosWash megalopolis, Florida, the Southwestern US (including Texas), and the Chicago metropolitan area are good examples of what we can expect

    I already live there. Demographic projections, even without immigration seem to be very bleak at this point. Florida and the SW especially.

    [MORE]

    The thing you idealize will be very different in 30-50 years time. You may have buyer’s remorse at that time. Your blood would curdle, to be around certain Boston area schools, when they let out. (And I am not even speaking of American blacks.)

    Cities are arguably IQ shredders, but that’s true for cities everywhere, including in the developing world.

    surely, it is more pronounced, when smart people are moving to the same cities? I don’t see how it could be otherwise.

    Canada appears to work pretty well, as do both Australia and New Zealand…And their Woke lunacy. But they’re still selective about whom they let in.

    I’m not really convinced this is true. Aren’t there blacks in Australia now?

    one might still wonder whether it would be easier for cognitive elites to physically have access to each other.

    Short term visas. Mutual exchanges and international cities.

    There’s also the fact that career opportunities for talented people outside of the West might often be significantly less–and less appealing–than they would be for them in the West.

    seems like an argument for the creation of special economic zones, rather than open borders, IMO.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird


    I already live there. Demographic projections, even without immigration seem to be very bleak at this point. Florida and the SW especially.

    The thing you idealize will be very different in 30-50 years time. You may have buyer’s remorse at that time. Your blood would curdle, to be around certain Boston area schools, when they let out. (And I am not even speaking of American blacks.)
     

    Maybe Boston Hispanics are worse than Southwest Hispanics? Do they have more African admixture?

    Santa Ana, California is dumpy and much less nice than Irvine, California but still a tolerable place to live in. I wouldn't want the entire US to turn into Santa Ana, of course, since it is the Irvines and Friscos of the US and not the Santa Anas of the US which are fueling US scientific and technological progress forward. But I like the Santa Anas for their quaint, rustic atmosphere: A taste of Latin America with much lower homicide rates than in much of Latin America.


    surely, it is more pronounced, when smart people are moving to the same cities? I don’t see how it could be otherwise.

     

    But there are a lot of cities and suburbs for smart people to move to in the US, and metropolitan areas can often keep on expanding and expanding, like the ones in Texas are currently doing.

    It's not like Russia where most of the smart people only flock to either Moscow or St. Petersburg. The US's smart people are much more spread out. And it's not like the US will have a shortage of space anytime soon. The parts of the US that do begin to have some shortage of space, such as California, might have already reached their peak population.


    I’m not really convinced this is true. Aren’t there blacks in Australia now?

     

    Yes, but just how many are cognitive elites rather than refugees? I know that Australia is extraordinarily brutal towards illegal asylum seekers, even smart ones such as this man:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/24/australia/australia-refugee-death-intl-hnk/index.html


    Short term visas. Mutual exchanges and international cities.

     

    But what if they want to make Western universities their main base of operations?

    seems like an argument for the creation of special economic zones, rather than open borders, IMO.

     

    Possibly. But good luck building such SEZs and/or charter cities. I'm willing to support their creation and cause, of course.
  1030. @Coconuts
    @LatW


    These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt.
     
    I found another interesting quote about Drieu's work. It comes from Jacques Lecarme, who was a literature professor at the Sorbonne until he retired in the 2010s. It is about first discovering the novel Gilles while he was a student in the 1950s, at the height of Sartre's influence.

    His father had been a professor as well, and the family were quite committed Communists:


    An attentive reader of Malraux, Aragon and Sartre, I reserved my admiration for the great figures of the Resistance, and felt only repulsion for collaborators. A second discovery was even more decisive. Everyone knows that being twenty is never the finest time of our lives. I found myself at the Rue d’Ulm (the École normale supérieure), a fine establishment where a heavy Communist and Marxist influence predominated, something I was resolutely allergic to. For the most part our professors believed that anyone who was not a Stalinist was a Fascist; the great writers of the time, Sartre and Aragon in particular, passed judgement and excommunicated in the name of world revolution. On the opposing side to the Communists, Malraux had given up writing novels and had sought refuge first in a museum, then in a government ministry.

    One day, feeling very discouraged, I borrowed one of the rare Drieu novels that had been allowed into the Rue d’Ulm library and went to read it on the terraces with Paris, bathed in winter sun, stretched out before me. The novel in question was Gilles, whose first part seemed to me to represent a pinnacle of the novelist’s art, forty years later I still stand by this judgement. I read it as Emma Bovary and all young people might, ardently identifying with the characters and attracted, wholly unconsciously, by the Freudian familial aspect of the novel. This fascination bordered on a form of hallucinatory intoxication. I had finally discovered my romantic hero, and we preyed on each other reciprocally. I convinced myself that I had left the trenches in 1917, and, back in Paris, I had seduced multitudes of women and broken many marriages. In the Paris of the 1920s and 30s I had been part of the surrealist movement and all its dramas, power and its intrigues, then, disowned by all those close to me I had joined with Fascism and Doriot (my parents had told me about his criminal life), I met my end in 1936, during the Spanish Civil War, emptying the magazine of my machine gun into an innumerable enemy, not the Whites, but the Reds (which meant my own family!).

    So dreamed a young left winger, intoxicated by the idea of self-destructive violence. It was also a way of breaking away from the rampant Stalinism of the time, which divided the world into good progressives and evil reactionaries. Reading Le Feu follet and Journal d’un homme trompé around the same time, I came to think that Drieu was the only one who had written the truth about sexuality, a topic that I believed, like everyone else at the time, to be central… Freud, who was never wrong, had written the Psychopathology of Everyday Life and Three Essays on Sexuality, Drieu, in all his fiction, sketched out a ‘Psychopathology of sexual life’, something of which we had great need, my classmates and I…
     

    I remember buying a copy of Decline of the West when I was around 14 or 15, it was still vaguely known by reputation at the time. I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat. You could find a lot of random books from the late 19th and early 20th century at cheap prices, I found a big single volume copy of Decline... from the 1930s (I guess it was abridged, but it was a fairly large book). I don't think I understood it and somehow lost it over the years.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_6JYQrpuyU&t=131s

    Here for example Houellebecq and Michel Onfray (a prominent French philosopher) are discussing the 'French collapse', Houellebecq says that awareness of decline is stronger in France than most other European countries and links it to technology, arguing that at a certain level of technological development a process of self-destruction seems to kick in. Onfray talks about the collapse of religion angle.

    There do seem to be a range of indicators that are no longer a positive direction, a turn around from what I would have expected about the future in the 2000s.

    I finished setting up a book version of Notes... on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notes-Understanding-Century-Pierre-Rochelle/dp/B0CWYDG361/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17S9UCVTOD2WO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Wl9RnBCyiotAfpzVO_KJU2FC0Hg4pagnSRbKeCRykLdPXJRX5jv3bHsy5pkdCvLyuFcgumF_nEINKUNQFAH90HRSNefw6n93tzH-cyeF7S4.k2EmYrD8wI4-N139-B8xNh66qs5kTME0A-0xtUVKqvY&dib_tag=se&keywords=drieu+la+rochelle+notes+for+understanding&qid=1711385796&sprefix=Drieu+La+Rochelle+Notes%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-1

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW, @LatW

    “Civilizational decline”, was one of the most mainstream popular themes of French culture, in the 19th and 20th century. It’s probably, why these theories which support the believe of “civilizational decline” like Marxism were very popular in France even without political power.

    You can see, “civilizational decline” was one of the most popular themes of France’s culture production, even in the economically successful time of the Trente Glorieuses in France’s art, films and writing, usually with Marxist framework of understanding.

    Latin countries’ culture has been more obsessed about “civilizational decline”, the lifestyle in those countries have probably been more resilient against negative parts of the industrialization.

    In terms of the “food civilization”, countries like France, Italy and Spain have been more resilient to continue old traditions under industrialization, maybe less than Japan.

    Postcommunist countries like Russia and Poland already have far higher obesity rate than France even although 35 years ago there were still limited food supply events in the communist countries.
    https://data.worldobesity.org/rankings/

  1031. @songbird
    @Dmitry


    It’s not related to “IQ theory”.
     
    originally, it was very tied to domestic development and education. But when the focus of growth shifted to immigration, then it came more to mean the importation of people.

    Of course, the state ideology is blank-slatist, so in a way it translates more to empty credentialism and degree mills. But within a certain meliue (AK and XYZ and I think Kaplan) it is more synonymous with a class of IQ.

    To some, high IQ, like genius-level. To others, just anything starting with a normative 100 IQ and above. Something like a Filipina nurse.

    XYZ seems to be a little loose in his definition, though. To him it seems to include secular Somalis.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    mean the importation of people.

    There is some use in relation to emigration/immigration “human capital flight”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight

    This article relates to the discussion about Huguenots we have earlier in the thread.

    But usually human capital relates to policy of investment in education, skills of your current workers.

    The language of human capital is quite anti-humanist compared to Marxism, as it says the human is just another machine, which you need to input.

    But, in the actual management, the idea of human capital is usually meaning to support humanist and positive policies, like giving free gym membership to your employees. Even funding office parties, you can say “we are investing in human capital”.

  1032. @Coconuts
    @LatW


    These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt.
     
    I found another interesting quote about Drieu's work. It comes from Jacques Lecarme, who was a literature professor at the Sorbonne until he retired in the 2010s. It is about first discovering the novel Gilles while he was a student in the 1950s, at the height of Sartre's influence.

    His father had been a professor as well, and the family were quite committed Communists:


    An attentive reader of Malraux, Aragon and Sartre, I reserved my admiration for the great figures of the Resistance, and felt only repulsion for collaborators. A second discovery was even more decisive. Everyone knows that being twenty is never the finest time of our lives. I found myself at the Rue d’Ulm (the École normale supérieure), a fine establishment where a heavy Communist and Marxist influence predominated, something I was resolutely allergic to. For the most part our professors believed that anyone who was not a Stalinist was a Fascist; the great writers of the time, Sartre and Aragon in particular, passed judgement and excommunicated in the name of world revolution. On the opposing side to the Communists, Malraux had given up writing novels and had sought refuge first in a museum, then in a government ministry.

    One day, feeling very discouraged, I borrowed one of the rare Drieu novels that had been allowed into the Rue d’Ulm library and went to read it on the terraces with Paris, bathed in winter sun, stretched out before me. The novel in question was Gilles, whose first part seemed to me to represent a pinnacle of the novelist’s art, forty years later I still stand by this judgement. I read it as Emma Bovary and all young people might, ardently identifying with the characters and attracted, wholly unconsciously, by the Freudian familial aspect of the novel. This fascination bordered on a form of hallucinatory intoxication. I had finally discovered my romantic hero, and we preyed on each other reciprocally. I convinced myself that I had left the trenches in 1917, and, back in Paris, I had seduced multitudes of women and broken many marriages. In the Paris of the 1920s and 30s I had been part of the surrealist movement and all its dramas, power and its intrigues, then, disowned by all those close to me I had joined with Fascism and Doriot (my parents had told me about his criminal life), I met my end in 1936, during the Spanish Civil War, emptying the magazine of my machine gun into an innumerable enemy, not the Whites, but the Reds (which meant my own family!).

    So dreamed a young left winger, intoxicated by the idea of self-destructive violence. It was also a way of breaking away from the rampant Stalinism of the time, which divided the world into good progressives and evil reactionaries. Reading Le Feu follet and Journal d’un homme trompé around the same time, I came to think that Drieu was the only one who had written the truth about sexuality, a topic that I believed, like everyone else at the time, to be central… Freud, who was never wrong, had written the Psychopathology of Everyday Life and Three Essays on Sexuality, Drieu, in all his fiction, sketched out a ‘Psychopathology of sexual life’, something of which we had great need, my classmates and I…
     

    I remember buying a copy of Decline of the West when I was around 14 or 15, it was still vaguely known by reputation at the time. I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat. You could find a lot of random books from the late 19th and early 20th century at cheap prices, I found a big single volume copy of Decline... from the 1930s (I guess it was abridged, but it was a fairly large book). I don't think I understood it and somehow lost it over the years.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_6JYQrpuyU&t=131s

    Here for example Houellebecq and Michel Onfray (a prominent French philosopher) are discussing the 'French collapse', Houellebecq says that awareness of decline is stronger in France than most other European countries and links it to technology, arguing that at a certain level of technological development a process of self-destruction seems to kick in. Onfray talks about the collapse of religion angle.

    There do seem to be a range of indicators that are no longer a positive direction, a turn around from what I would have expected about the future in the 2000s.

    I finished setting up a book version of Notes... on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notes-Understanding-Century-Pierre-Rochelle/dp/B0CWYDG361/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17S9UCVTOD2WO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Wl9RnBCyiotAfpzVO_KJU2FC0Hg4pagnSRbKeCRykLdPXJRX5jv3bHsy5pkdCvLyuFcgumF_nEINKUNQFAH90HRSNefw6n93tzH-cyeF7S4.k2EmYrD8wI4-N139-B8xNh66qs5kTME0A-0xtUVKqvY&dib_tag=se&keywords=drieu+la+rochelle+notes+for+understanding&qid=1711385796&sprefix=Drieu+La+Rochelle+Notes%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-1

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Emil Nikola Richard, @LatW, @LatW

    Why don’t those guys just go to mass? The last time I attended a Catholic mass the entire production was over in a half hour. It’s nothing like some of those English sects where it’s a five hour ordeal. You could go only once a month and that is like practically nothing.

  1033. @Philip Owen
    @AnonfromTN

    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.

    Typical Phillip, dimwitted bestial idiot clown.
    The “warning” was effectively a non-warning . Anyway inference of it was because it was national public holiday weekend plus the election the next week. NOTHING to do with events this week.

    Going on the theory they only delayed this because of the public announcement, and security services were absent/negligent requires investigation…..not stupid western propaganda statements.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Gerard1234

    And now Lukashenko himself has backed his border guards and directly and deliberately contracted Putin by saying the Tajiks were heading for Belarus.

    If Lukashenko can shame Putin so publically how weak is Putin. Lukashenko has the remnants of Wagner on his territory. Is everyone conveniently looking in the other direction?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  1034. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    Zelensky, the "inveterate Jew hater" according to our resident expert on such matters kremlinstoogeA123, also attended the world holocaust forum in 2019. Here's what he was quoted as saying there:


    “The Jews managed to build a country, to elevate it, without anything except people and brains,” Zelensky, an actor who was elected in May, told The Times of Israel. “The Jewish people in Israel is a unique people, a unique population. It has economic strength. There are many countries in the world that can protect themselves, but Israel, such a small country, can not only protect itself, but facing external threats, can respond.” Despite “being under the threat of war, they enjoy every day,” Zelensky added. “I’ve seen it.” Zelensky said he visited Israel many times when he was an actor.
    “I have relatives there — an aunt of my mother, and her relatives. They moved to Israel, some of them, about 10-15 years ago. Maybe longer. At the end of the ’90s,” he told The Times of Israel. “So I was in Israel many times. For meetings, business meetings, TV meetings and concerts — in my previous life.” Asked whether he did comedy there, Zelensky answered: “Yes. In Tel Aviv, in Beersheva, in Haifa, in Jerusalem. In so many cities. So I know Israel. I know people there.”
     
    So much for the crazy BS that kremlinstoogeA123 is prone to try and spread about Zelensky at this blog site.

    https://www.jta.org/2020/01/21/global/ukraines-jewish-president-heaps-praise-on-israel-in-pre-visit-interview

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The Putin bootlickers brigade can’t agree on if Zelensky is a Nazi Jew or if Putin is a secret Nazi hunting a Jew…while having Jews in his cabinet and maintaining a close relationship with Netanyahu.

    I’ve had multiple Putin bootlickers tell me that he is playing a long term game with the Jews.

    I guess that would be a 20+ year game where he is friends with them. Putin supporters are insane.

    I honestly think most of his supporters are like Anglin.

    They are really just nihilists that hate the world for their place in it. They want to believe Putin is a force against Jewish globalists even though it is Orthodox men that die in this war.

    I’ve asked numerous times on Anglin’s blog as to how this war sticks it to Western Jews. Not a single person has given a rational explanation. Their number one response is to call me a Jew and their second most common response is to suggest that I am a Jewish agent.

    They seem to be Whites that lack logical thinking skills. I’m not even convinced that most of them are White. I suspect a lot of these White nationalist groups actually have a lot of mixed race and half-Whites that like to think they are White or are “fellow travelers” as leftists would say. I’ve been around Germanics and these guys are not Germanic. They aren’t able to separate their emotion.

  1035. @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    The assimilation model already appears to be working pretty well in California with its pan-enclavist system, no?
     
    No.

    California is on its way to collapse. Mobs are running wild (1). San Francisco is emptying (2)


    Giving each group (including whites) their own space can do wonders.

     

    The U.S. Constitution has been amended to make this impossible. One can not legally keep out undesirables. The mall riots (1) are primarily troublemakers travelling outside of "their space".

    Mass ex-USSR immigration to Israel did not result in long-term wage suppression
     
    Israel is a fairly extreme outlier case. They received a shot of truly high end people from Russia when the door was opened. And they were in a rapid expansion phase for their national economy. This scenario is unlikely to repeat.

    20/20 hindsight, how much did Russia lose via this brain drain?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-hordes-teens-swarm-california-malls-shooting-and-stabbing-ensue

    (2) https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2023/san-francisco-downtown-closing/

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    No.

    California is on its way to collapse. Mobs are running wild (1). San Francisco is emptying (2)

    That’s a consequence of soft-on-crime policies which should be scrapped. Even SF liberals are smart enough to see this, which is why they thankfully recalled that far-left dumbass Chesa Boudin.

    The U.S. Constitution has been amended to make this impossible. One can not legally keep out undesirables. The mall riots (1) are primarily troublemakers travelling outside of “their space”.

    Tough-on-crime policies can significantly improve things, no? Stop-and-frisk did wonders in NYC, no? Why isn’t the GOP defending the constitutionality of that policy?

    Israel is a fairly extreme outlier case. They received a shot of truly high end people from Russia when the door was opened. And they were in a rapid expansion phase for their national economy. This scenario is unlikely to repeat.

    What was the economic effect on Israel of mass Mizrahi and Sephardi Jewish immigration in the 1950s and 1960s?

    20/20 hindsight, how much did Russia lose via this brain drain?

    A lot, but an Israeli or even a Jew would likely prioritize Israel’s interests over Russia’s interests, no?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    That’s a consequence of soft-on-crime policies which should be scrapped. Even SF liberals are smart enough to see this, which is why they thankfully recalled that far-left dumbass Chesa Boudin.

    Yea but they didn't replace him with someone that is tough on crime.

    They replaced a nutcase Marxist with a regular leftist.

    The left can't lock up non-Whites over drugs or theft.

    They just can't do it. They pity them.

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  1036. @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    No.

    California is on its way to collapse. Mobs are running wild (1). San Francisco is emptying (2)
     
    That's a consequence of soft-on-crime policies which should be scrapped. Even SF liberals are smart enough to see this, which is why they thankfully recalled that far-left dumbass Chesa Boudin.

    The U.S. Constitution has been amended to make this impossible. One can not legally keep out undesirables. The mall riots (1) are primarily troublemakers travelling outside of “their space”.
     
    Tough-on-crime policies can significantly improve things, no? Stop-and-frisk did wonders in NYC, no? Why isn't the GOP defending the constitutionality of that policy?

    Israel is a fairly extreme outlier case. They received a shot of truly high end people from Russia when the door was opened. And they were in a rapid expansion phase for their national economy. This scenario is unlikely to repeat.
     
    What was the economic effect on Israel of mass Mizrahi and Sephardi Jewish immigration in the 1950s and 1960s?

    20/20 hindsight, how much did Russia lose via this brain drain?
     
    A lot, but an Israeli or even a Jew would likely prioritize Israel's interests over Russia's interests, no?

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    That’s a consequence of soft-on-crime policies which should be scrapped. Even SF liberals are smart enough to see this, which is why they thankfully recalled that far-left dumbass Chesa Boudin.

    Yea but they didn’t replace him with someone that is tough on crime.

    They replaced a nutcase Marxist with a regular leftist.

    The left can’t lock up non-Whites over drugs or theft.

    They just can’t do it. They pity them.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    The Left likes the concept of the Noble Savage too much, that's the problem:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage

    Maybe if race realist research will continue being successful, the Left will eventually change their mind about this?

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  1037. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    That’s a consequence of soft-on-crime policies which should be scrapped. Even SF liberals are smart enough to see this, which is why they thankfully recalled that far-left dumbass Chesa Boudin.

    Yea but they didn't replace him with someone that is tough on crime.

    They replaced a nutcase Marxist with a regular leftist.

    The left can't lock up non-Whites over drugs or theft.

    They just can't do it. They pity them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    The Left likes the concept of the Noble Savage too much, that’s the problem:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage

    Maybe if race realist research will continue being successful, the Left will eventually change their mind about this?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Maybe if race realist research will continue being successful, the Left will eventually change their mind about this?

    The left within academia already knows it is true. They simply believe that lying and blaming Whites is the better path. Teachers within mixed areas are fully aware that race is real.

    I saw the results first hand and this is a major reason why I am an anti-leftist. I was privy to cheating that occurred at a school for the sake of racial equality. It didn't work for anyone. The White kids were bored out of their minds and the non-Whites were being passed ahead. The kids that needed extra help were being ignored. It was honestly depressing and I didn't derive any type of racial glee or racist thoughts. It was just wrong and entirely the result of good intentions by the left. Harming everyone by lying.

    The left will only accept race by kicking and screaming. They know full well that nothing good will come for them if race is accepted. Their best move is to lie and promote race mixing to dilute the results. I despise the left but on a strategic level they are making the correct move. The US right is a bunch of dopes. For the record I am a racial realist populist and not on the right. I am also not a White nationalist but do not take the liberal/Con Inc route of blaming Whites for what are unfortunate racial realities. I am strongly opposed to loading up Whites with guilt or shame for the sake of a fictional ideal.

    The only other plausible scenario is if it becomes plausible for genetic engineering to equalize everyone. The left would accept race in that scenario and hope everyone goes along with their massive about face.

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  1038. @Coconuts
    @LatW


    These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt.
     
    I found another interesting quote about Drieu's work. It comes from Jacques Lecarme, who was a literature professor at the Sorbonne until he retired in the 2010s. It is about first discovering the novel Gilles while he was a student in the 1950s, at the height of Sartre's influence.

    His father had been a professor as well, and the family were quite committed Communists:


    An attentive reader of Malraux, Aragon and Sartre, I reserved my admiration for the great figures of the Resistance, and felt only repulsion for collaborators. A second discovery was even more decisive. Everyone knows that being twenty is never the finest time of our lives. I found myself at the Rue d’Ulm (the École normale supérieure), a fine establishment where a heavy Communist and Marxist influence predominated, something I was resolutely allergic to. For the most part our professors believed that anyone who was not a Stalinist was a Fascist; the great writers of the time, Sartre and Aragon in particular, passed judgement and excommunicated in the name of world revolution. On the opposing side to the Communists, Malraux had given up writing novels and had sought refuge first in a museum, then in a government ministry.

    One day, feeling very discouraged, I borrowed one of the rare Drieu novels that had been allowed into the Rue d’Ulm library and went to read it on the terraces with Paris, bathed in winter sun, stretched out before me. The novel in question was Gilles, whose first part seemed to me to represent a pinnacle of the novelist’s art, forty years later I still stand by this judgement. I read it as Emma Bovary and all young people might, ardently identifying with the characters and attracted, wholly unconsciously, by the Freudian familial aspect of the novel. This fascination bordered on a form of hallucinatory intoxication. I had finally discovered my romantic hero, and we preyed on each other reciprocally. I convinced myself that I had left the trenches in 1917, and, back in Paris, I had seduced multitudes of women and broken many marriages. In the Paris of the 1920s and 30s I had been part of the surrealist movement and all its dramas, power and its intrigues, then, disowned by all those close to me I had joined with Fascism and Doriot (my parents had told me about his criminal life), I met my end in 1936, during the Spanish Civil War, emptying the magazine of my machine gun into an innumerable enemy, not the Whites, but the Reds (which meant my own family!).

    So dreamed a young left winger, intoxicated by the idea of self-destructive violence. It was also a way of breaking away from the rampant Stalinism of the time, which divided the world into good progressives and evil reactionaries. Reading Le Feu follet and Journal d’un homme trompé around the same time, I came to think that Drieu was the only one who had written the truth about sexuality, a topic that I believed, like everyone else at the time, to be central… Freud, who was never wrong, had written the Psychopathology of Everyday Life and Three Essays on Sexuality, Drieu, in all his fiction, sketched out a ‘Psychopathology of sexual life’, something of which we had great need, my classmates and I…
     

    I remember buying a copy of Decline of the West when I was around 14 or 15, it was still vaguely known by reputation at the time. I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat. You could find a lot of random books from the late 19th and early 20th century at cheap prices, I found a big single volume copy of Decline... from the 1930s (I guess it was abridged, but it was a fairly large book). I don't think I understood it and somehow lost it over the years.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_6JYQrpuyU&t=131s

    Here for example Houellebecq and Michel Onfray (a prominent French philosopher) are discussing the 'French collapse', Houellebecq says that awareness of decline is stronger in France than most other European countries and links it to technology, arguing that at a certain level of technological development a process of self-destruction seems to kick in. Onfray talks about the collapse of religion angle.

    There do seem to be a range of indicators that are no longer a positive direction, a turn around from what I would have expected about the future in the 2000s.

    I finished setting up a book version of Notes... on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notes-Understanding-Century-Pierre-Rochelle/dp/B0CWYDG361/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17S9UCVTOD2WO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Wl9RnBCyiotAfpzVO_KJU2FC0Hg4pagnSRbKeCRykLdPXJRX5jv3bHsy5pkdCvLyuFcgumF_nEINKUNQFAH90HRSNefw6n93tzH-cyeF7S4.k2EmYrD8wI4-N139-B8xNh66qs5kTME0A-0xtUVKqvY&dib_tag=se&keywords=drieu+la+rochelle+notes+for+understanding&qid=1711385796&sprefix=Drieu+La+Rochelle+Notes%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-1

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    Very interesting quote, shows how intellectually stifling their Communist environment must have been, even if it is typically portrayed as super free and liberating. They must have resented and feared anything even close to fascist like the plague…

    Did you read the novel Gilles? You know this theme of the jaded person’s search for purity… in real life it really annoys me, because a lot of those people have, frankly, been total libertines and have even caused harm so their overstated criticism of the modern lifestyles, politics and customs – in which they themselves wallowed plentifully – strikes me as hypocritical, but when it is written in such beautiful and introspective prose, as with Drieu, it seems completely different (more pure, more romantic and idealistic). And the final, radical step is also cool as a kind of a catharsis or resolution.

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    Interestingly, a small publishing house in BC has translated it:
    https://tikhanovlibrary.substack.com/p/gilles-pierre-drieu-la-rochelle

    I wonder how accurately it is conveying those times and how much it is author’s imagination and reflection. I’m sure it portrays that historic time vividly, but he also seems to have a somewhat heightened perception of his surroundings and his cultural background and the social problems at hand. Meaning, he may have portrayed things as crazier than they were (which I like). Even during a period of crisis such as a civil war.

    I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat.

    Those are the best. Btw, there is a British comedy about one of those called Black Books.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

    I recall the same thing, that some at the university looked down on it a little, maybe because they didn’t like the statement that the West “has declined” (as it would require them to explain the validity of the several post-modernist schools of philosophy that came later and which they treated as superior to Spengler). Somehow it felt that it was not put in the same higher category as, for example, Nietzsche (apparently he was laid to rest holding copies of Nietzsche’s Zarathustra and Faust). But it is sometimes referred to in right leaning writings.

    By the way, the title of the book (Der Untergang des Abendlandes) should not be translated as “The Decline of the West” but as “The Decline of the Evening Lands” – not sure there is an English version for that (Occidental lands is a bit different), in my language, too, we call Western Europe the “evening lands” (same as in German here) because that is where the sun sets, where daylight fades. Does it not include Eastern Europe as well these days? That’s an honest question to ask my friends…

    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real

    That is very interesting, because certain social trends seem to have accelerated in the last decade or so.

    You know what fascinates me, is that there were authors already back in the 1930s commenting on the very same things that are being commented on at our time (family relations, urbanization, emancipation, egotism, atomization, etc) – and yet it seems that things should’ve been better in the 1930s. But they seem to have had these issues already then, possibly even in the late 19th century (in some strata). I recall reading a book from the 1930s Latvia that was ardently antifeminist, and it surprised me, as I had been under the illusion that things had been different back then (of course, they were, but the main themes were already there, in the city).

    It’s just that the Great Replacement wasn’t yet taking place then. One can possibly learn to live with the sexual degeneracy (and we’ve learned to live with individualism), but the actual physical replacement will be it. There is just no way around that.

    Btw, it’s quite funny that Macron likes Houellebecq. It’s interesting that he feels that France is more sensitive to this, I’ve been thinking that it might also be the French character – they seem to be more open than other Europeans, their critique seems stronger, others seem a bit more timid. I was recently reading some political comments on French websites – they are really not afraid to express their opinion, even if it’s not flattering. It’s quite amusing, I love it! 🙂

    I finished setting up a book version of Notes… on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback

    Well, I went ahead and bought it, because the language just flows so beautifully, and it’s a nice cover, too – the healthy European man in all his splendor! 🙂 Probably better than some crazy surrealist art. 🙂

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @LatW


    Did you read the novel Gilles?
     
    I am reading it at the moment, it is a meaty novel (around 600 pages). I noticed that it was being finally translated into English, this is good. It was always a bit curious that it has never been done before, when a lot of the great French political novels from the 1930s and 40s were translated into English after the war. I think it would have become a cult novel if it had been available.


    ...but when it is written in such beautiful and introspective prose, as with Drieu, it seems completely different (more pure, more romantic and idealistic).
     
    I became quite interested in what sets Drieu's work apart, the mix of romanticism and harder realism, because it is unusual and has a particular feel to it. I think I can see some relationship to other modernist literature from the same era.

    I’m sure it portrays that historic time vividly, but he also seems to have a somewhat heightened perception of his surroundings and his cultural background and the social problems at hand...
     
    Yes, I think his portrayal is influenced by his own sensibility and background beliefs. A lot of the things he writes about do seem to have been part of the social scene in that time, I have seen other writers also describe some of the same things. Just at that time I guess they would be typical in only small segments of society, among the wealthy and/or Bohemian, so Drieu would be quite avant-garde in writing about this stuff. (Gilles is a also a roman à clef, many of the characters are based on real people). Then it had turned out to have predictive value, as elite values and norms have spread through wider society.

    Does it not include Eastern Europe as well these days? That’s an honest question to ask my friends…
     
    It sounds poetic in German. From observing Belarus I would say it is a continent wide phenomena, in one form or another.

    You know what fascinates me, is that there were authors already back in the 1930s commenting on the very same things that are being commented on at our time...
     
    In France at least (this may also be true in Germany) a lot of these things were already being identified as trends even earlier, in the later 19th century, I think as people were processing the new urban and industrial phenomena and how it related to political beliefs inherited from the Enlightenment era. But at this time people were still in contact with older value systems and could see the contrast. And as you say these things were more evident in major urban trading centres and capital cities, they would take a long time to reach the rest of the people.

    On early predictions about feminism, there is a famous book from 1875 by Proudhon, the 'father of anarchism' called Pornocratie. He argues that the sexual emancipation of women will lead to the destruction of the family, breakdown of social solidarity and the creation of a 'sodomitical tyranny'. Though again the idea of pornocracy is even older.

    I’ve been thinking that it might also be the French character – they seem to be more open than other Europeans, their critique seems stronger, others seem a bit more timid.

     

    There may be a connection here between the previous power of the far-left and these kinds of radicals in France (for example, after 1945, but it has been a recurrent thing). They tend to end up disappointing people, so a certain cynicism and counter-critique has become established.

    Well, I went ahead and bought it, because the language just flows so beautifully, and it’s a nice cover, too – the healthy European man in all his splendor!
     
    Thanks! There is a bit of a story behind the cover illustration. It is a German porcelain model called Der Sieger designed by Franz Nagy in 1940. I think one of the items made to commemorate the 1940 campaign, it seemed an appropriate cover illustration.
  1039. @Coconuts
    @LatW


    These may seem old fashioned now, as they were later overshadowed by post-modern ideas (such as existentialism), but in the 1930s these may have still been felt.
     
    I found another interesting quote about Drieu's work. It comes from Jacques Lecarme, who was a literature professor at the Sorbonne until he retired in the 2010s. It is about first discovering the novel Gilles while he was a student in the 1950s, at the height of Sartre's influence.

    His father had been a professor as well, and the family were quite committed Communists:


    An attentive reader of Malraux, Aragon and Sartre, I reserved my admiration for the great figures of the Resistance, and felt only repulsion for collaborators. A second discovery was even more decisive. Everyone knows that being twenty is never the finest time of our lives. I found myself at the Rue d’Ulm (the École normale supérieure), a fine establishment where a heavy Communist and Marxist influence predominated, something I was resolutely allergic to. For the most part our professors believed that anyone who was not a Stalinist was a Fascist; the great writers of the time, Sartre and Aragon in particular, passed judgement and excommunicated in the name of world revolution. On the opposing side to the Communists, Malraux had given up writing novels and had sought refuge first in a museum, then in a government ministry.

    One day, feeling very discouraged, I borrowed one of the rare Drieu novels that had been allowed into the Rue d’Ulm library and went to read it on the terraces with Paris, bathed in winter sun, stretched out before me. The novel in question was Gilles, whose first part seemed to me to represent a pinnacle of the novelist’s art, forty years later I still stand by this judgement. I read it as Emma Bovary and all young people might, ardently identifying with the characters and attracted, wholly unconsciously, by the Freudian familial aspect of the novel. This fascination bordered on a form of hallucinatory intoxication. I had finally discovered my romantic hero, and we preyed on each other reciprocally. I convinced myself that I had left the trenches in 1917, and, back in Paris, I had seduced multitudes of women and broken many marriages. In the Paris of the 1920s and 30s I had been part of the surrealist movement and all its dramas, power and its intrigues, then, disowned by all those close to me I had joined with Fascism and Doriot (my parents had told me about his criminal life), I met my end in 1936, during the Spanish Civil War, emptying the magazine of my machine gun into an innumerable enemy, not the Whites, but the Reds (which meant my own family!).

    So dreamed a young left winger, intoxicated by the idea of self-destructive violence. It was also a way of breaking away from the rampant Stalinism of the time, which divided the world into good progressives and evil reactionaries. Reading Le Feu follet and Journal d’un homme trompé around the same time, I came to think that Drieu was the only one who had written the truth about sexuality, a topic that I believed, like everyone else at the time, to be central… Freud, who was never wrong, had written the Psychopathology of Everyday Life and Three Essays on Sexuality, Drieu, in all his fiction, sketched out a ‘Psychopathology of sexual life’, something of which we had great need, my classmates and I…
     

    I remember buying a copy of Decline of the West when I was around 14 or 15, it was still vaguely known by reputation at the time. I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat. You could find a lot of random books from the late 19th and early 20th century at cheap prices, I found a big single volume copy of Decline... from the 1930s (I guess it was abridged, but it was a fairly large book). I don't think I understood it and somehow lost it over the years.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_6JYQrpuyU&t=131s

    Here for example Houellebecq and Michel Onfray (a prominent French philosopher) are discussing the 'French collapse', Houellebecq says that awareness of decline is stronger in France than most other European countries and links it to technology, arguing that at a certain level of technological development a process of self-destruction seems to kick in. Onfray talks about the collapse of religion angle.

    There do seem to be a range of indicators that are no longer a positive direction, a turn around from what I would have expected about the future in the 2000s.

    I finished setting up a book version of Notes... on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notes-Understanding-Century-Pierre-Rochelle/dp/B0CWYDG361/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17S9UCVTOD2WO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Wl9RnBCyiotAfpzVO_KJU2FC0Hg4pagnSRbKeCRykLdPXJRX5jv3bHsy5pkdCvLyuFcgumF_nEINKUNQFAH90HRSNefw6n93tzH-cyeF7S4.k2EmYrD8wI4-N139-B8xNh66qs5kTME0A-0xtUVKqvY&dib_tag=se&keywords=drieu+la+rochelle+notes+for+understanding&qid=1711385796&sprefix=Drieu+La+Rochelle+Notes%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-1

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    The Oswald Spengler society awarded the Spengler prize to Jordan Peterson in 2022. For the “ruthless analysis of the decay of our civilization” and because Peterson “fights for holding on to the very own basic values of our civilization,” which makes his work “increasingly compatible and complementary to that of Spengler.”

    https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/jordan-peterson-spengler-prize/

    Also, check this out (the one David Engels had a guest lecture at our uni as well, his work is mostly in German):

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @LatW

    I realised I knew the name David Engels in connection with Spengler, I was trying to remember from where... It was here in Alain de Benoist's program on the TVL channel where he is one of the participants:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHzMfjaezpY&t=2626s

    I think they mention Houellebecq in this interview, but not JBP. His award would still be in the future at this point.

  1040. LatW says:
    @Coconuts
    @LatW


    And Jünger socialized with avant-garde and surrealist thinkers in Paris. And some who, while interesting, may have been even more questionable from the point of view of National Socialist ethics. But this is understandable with intellectuals and writers.

     

    I get the impression that Junger was more grounded than Drieu. There is an interesting book by the guy who translated most of Junger's works into French called Deux individus contre l'histoire which is a parallel study of Drieu and Junger, it's one I plan to re-read when I have time.

    Degrelle seems to have been more like the man of action that Drieu often wished he was, like a right-wing version of Malraux (Degrelle probably did even more fighting and risky stuff). I don't know if Drieu ever got to know much about him, despite the shared language and culture I don't remember many references to what was going on among the Walloons. I think after the war Degrelle's profile grew.

    Originally I brought up this side of Drieu's experience because of some of the earlier comments in the thread about how eager the French were to collaborate with Germany during the occupation. Whereas most of the pro-German French seem to have been aware of the riskiness of what they were doing from the beginning, then especially when the limits of what the Germans were prepared to offer became more clear.


    I’ll quote with your permission (some of the thoughts here are almost pagan sounding and almost reminiscent of Nietzsche’s affirmation of life):
     
    This is true, this is from Drieu's commentary on an exchange of correspondence he had with Charles Maurras in early 1939. Drieu had been trying to convince Maurras to be less anti-German where he talks about these kinds of influences directly:

    ‘I have always thought that Germany represents a force for movement in Europe… Here I distinguish myself from Maurras, not because I think differently from him but because I tend to think on another plane. Maurras is a philosopher who wholly submits to political necessity… He never positions himself knowingly at the point of view of a wholly disinterested and objective philosophy of history. He will never consent, for example, to speak of violence as a necessity in itself; he will only ever speak of violence as an evil against which we must defend ourselves…

    Whereas I, following Nietzsche, Hegel and Schopenhauer, I return to a more primitive conception where evil is at the heart of life itself, mingled with good by some enigmatic connection… From my point of view Germany appears today as a necessary evil in Europe, the initiating movement, always renewing the experience of force without which the West drifts into the stupidity of a overly facile and optimistic rationalism, that of our intellectuals of the 18th century or our teachers, or our freemasons.’

    I thought about including it somewhere in the introduction but didn't find a place to use it in the end.

    Two of the novels he wrote during the war definitely have more pagan and spiritual elements (there is a lot of discussion of the Upanishads in one of them, it is part of the internal monologue of the main character), and in his diaries and final texts you can see he is thinking more about this.


    Humanity is just as much here as there, in its past as in its present. The future may turn out to be richer in the qualities of the past than the present.
     
    This is quite an important idea. Drieu raises it a few times, I think there is a part towards the end of the Notes... where it reappears. I've noticed that in recent studies of fascism they place a lot of emphasis on the idea of palingenesis, the idea of rebirth, and aspects of the past being used as a source of inspiration for the content of the future. This is how the idea of fascism as a form of 'reactionary modernism' seems to have come about. Drieu is a good example of it.

    I came across an interesting book recently that looks at the influence of Georges Sorel on French fascism, especially in the field of art and aesthetics. Sorel and some of his followers came from radical syndicalism originally, so the far-left, but were promoting a revolution against Progress and democracy in order to create a society of 'warriors and producers'.

    Sorel had extended his theory of political myth by creating an anti-rational, anti-Enlightenment concept of the sublime which looked to various influences (Classical Greece, some aspects of Christianity, regionalism and primitivism as well as 'heroic labour'). It looks like this was influential on Drieu, Sorel and his followers like Berth were kind of thought leaders in the anti-decadence movement when Drieu was at university studying politics.

    I think this may explain some of Drieu's interpretations and choices in the literary and cultural sections, it might be an interesting topic to go into.

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    Degrelle seems to have been more like the man of action that Drieu often wished he was, like a right-wing version of Malraux (Degrelle probably did even more fighting and risky stuff).

    Don’t know about Malraux but Drieu strikes me as very different from Degrelle – both in terms of the themes that preoccupy him and in the genre of writing, of course. Degrelle is a soldier, a politician, an ideologue, definitely a “man of action”, as you say (and as is in line with his ideology), but Drieu is a poet, a writer, maybe a cultural critic.

    (Btw, Degrelle was in Narva, Estonia, and wrote about it in his diaries).

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    Whereas most of the pro-German French seem to have been aware of the riskiness of what they were doing from the beginning, then especially when the limits of what the Germans were prepared to offer became more clear.

    For us it became clear quite early, already the first year, I think. But this is a bit similar to how the Latvian Thunder Cross party (our own fascist org) felt about the German occupation (this org in the 1930s had relations with the Romanian Iron Guard).

    Our situation was even more sensitive due to our history with the Baltic Germans (the Thunder Cross had been somewhat anti-German in the 1930s). Even at first, in 1941, the collaboration between them and the German occupation regime was primarily tactical in nature. The Germans acknowledged that the Thunder Cross had political objectives that diverged from their own (even though, technically as National Socialists (or rather fascists), they were seen as potential intermediaries for the German leadership). But they had previously been somewhat hostile to both Jews and Germans. So it was an ambiguous relationship and a short one because by August 1941, the Germans banned them. The leader was actually arrested by Gestapo for continuing with the underground nationalist publications and then sent to Dachau. But he survived.

    I thought about including it somewhere in the introduction but didn’t find a place to use it in the end.

    That quote was really cool, just probably difficult to place in the right way. I really like the quote he used right before his death (“Yes I am no ordinary patriot, no limited nationalist. I am an internationalist. I am not only a Frenchman, I am a European. You are Europeans too, whether you know it or not.”). That is an awesome, powerful quote that would resonate with quite a few.

    Two of the novels he wrote during the war definitely have more pagan and spiritual elements (there is a lot of discussion of the Upanishads in one of them, it is part of the internal monologue of the main character), and in his diaries and final texts you can see he is thinking more about this.

    That’s interesting, because it seems that in the Notes.. he approaches it more carefully, he shows appreciation for both Christianity and paganism (he does note that Christianity is partly derived from paganism or at least related to it in the origin). But then the whole ethos of his writing where he praises the vitality and the connectedness to the “body” and Nature, during the Middle Ages and in general as a goal of man, there it seems more pagan in its essence. Maybe later in life some of these types turn a bit more spiritual.

    Drieu raises it a few times, I think there is a part towards the end of the Notes… where it reappears.

    Yes, I noticed, too, that it was mentioned twice, iirc, it reappeared in the end so I thought that was meaningful.

    the idea of palingenesis, the idea of rebirth, and aspects of the past being used as a source of inspiration for the content of the future

    Very interesting, thanks – I had not heard of this term, but I’ve identified this trend a lot before (it appears in our groups a lot as well). Look:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenetic_ultranationalism

    Sorel and some of his followers came from radical syndicalism originally, so the far-left, but were promoting a revolution against Progress and democracy in order to create a society of ‘warriors and producers’.

    I can see those “working class” roots there, although this does sound more leftist than National Socialism. Although it does remind me a little of the Green fascism that I mentioned a while back regarding the Wehrbauerconcept (a kind of a forward positioned German soldier-peasant on the outskirts of the Reich – which to me as a Latvian is both scary and fascinating at once) and the ideas of Richard Walther Darré (organic country living – one is also a kind of a “producer” in that context, very much so).

    Sorel had extended his theory of political myth by creating an anti-rational, anti-Enlightenment concept of the sublime which looked to various influences (Classical Greece, some aspects of Christianity, regionalism and primitivism as well as ‘heroic labour’).

    This is interesting, because I was just thinking about this the other day, as I was reading Drieu – I was wondering if it would be possible to synthesize things from different eras or even different ideologies to create something for the current times and the future. “Heroic labor” is maybe a bit too exalted and idealistic and definitely a bit Commie sounding, and probably wouldn’t be embraced by today’s masses (certainly one doesn’t want to push it on people and who will even volunteer for that?), however, as a purely idealistic idea, it’s not bad. Imagine that combined with nationalism? But in a similar vein, there are ideas from the past that would be interesting to see if they can still live. Purely experimental, of course. 🙂

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @LatW


    Don’t know about Malraux but Drieu strikes me as very different from Degrelle – both in terms of the themes that preoccupy him and in the genre of writing, of course.
     
    Yes, Drieu always had a sort of feeling of dissatisfaction or even guilt about being a writer, linked to his belief in the importance of being a man of action and 'of force'. This is why he made periodic attempts to get involved in practical politics, from a literary and creative point of view these attempts were important to him but they weren't that successful in practical terms.  He tended to start out with enthusiasm but then start to self-analyze and become introspective again. 


    But this is a bit similar to how the Latvian Thunder Cross party (our own fascist org) felt about the German occupation (this org in the 1930s had relations with the Romanian Iron Guard).
     
    I read a bit about them last time I was visiting Riga, I see on Wikipedia that Celmiņš was also hoping that significant Latvian military forces would be raised, I guess in their own units with Latvian nationalist commanders? Drieu was hoping for a real fascist single party in France, that the Germans specifically didn't want to allow anyone to establish.

    That is an awesome, powerful quote that would resonate with quite a few.
     
    I have heard Alan de Benoist reference Drieu's idea of Europe a few times, it seems to have been an inspiration for him. There is one interview where he mentions the quite obscure Drieu book 'Le Français de l'Europe', a compilation of the last articles Drieu wrote, where he is critical of the Nazis for their policies around the European issue during the occupation. It was published just before the liberation of France in 1944 so most copies were pulped. (I would guess de Benoist has a copy in his huge library).  

    That’s interesting, because it seems that in the Notes.. he approaches it more carefully, he shows appreciation for both Christianity and paganism (he does note that Christianity is partly derived from paganism or at least related to it in the origin).
     
    He has the same attitude in Gilles, but there is an interesting part towards the end of
    Gilleswhen Gilles is in Spain and participates in a discussion about the future of the Catholic Church and fascism, he argues that the defeat of fascism will lead to the eclipse of the Church. It is weirdly prescient in some ways when you observe what has been happening to the Churches in Western Europe (their demographic profile is shrinking and getting older and older, apart from recent immigrants). I think that intuitions of this kind may have moved him towards the Upanishads, as it became clear that fascism was going to be defeated, he seems to have concluded that the more pagan view contained the deepest enduring insights for him.   

    Although it does remind me a little of the Green fascism that I mentioned a while back regarding the Wehrbauerconcept (a kind of a forward positioned German soldier-peasant on the outskirts of the Reich – which to me as a Latvian is both scary and fascinating at once) and the ideas of Richard Walther Darré (organic country living – one is also a kind of a “producer” in that context, very much so).
     
    It seems to be related to that idea, and these are the sort of producers Sorel was thinking of as well as industrial workers. I found the Wehrbauer thing interesting when you brought it up, it was something I had vague memories of reading about a long time ago, and that Hitler wanted to do it to preserve the vitality of the Germans. I remember sometimes vaguely thinking about the purpose behind these German colonisation schemes when I was at my wife's family dacha in Belarus and in the countryside there. Living at the dacha sometimes during the summer and helping with the potatoes (my sister-in-law calls it 'agricultural tourism') did have some educational effect, because I'd always lived in urban environments in the UK till then. Now I am thinking about it, it's possible I've been finding these ideas of Sorel and Drieu interesting because of experiences like this...  

     

    I was wondering if it would be possible to synthesize things from different eras or even different ideologies to create something for the current times and the future.
     
    It might be necessary, in Western countries the spirit of progressivism has been very influential in the culture for a long time (though usually in more moderate forms that at present.) But it is going in some strange directions, and over time taking into account things like demographic change it may start to falter, if the contradictions within it become too obvious.
  1041. @Gerard1234
    @Philip Owen


    The US warned Russia. Putin rejected thr warning.
     
    Typical Phillip, dimwitted bestial idiot clown.
    The "warning" was effectively a non-warning . Anyway inference of it was because it was national public holiday weekend plus the election the next week. NOTHING to do with events this week.

    Going on the theory they only delayed this because of the public announcement, and security services were absent/negligent requires investigation.....not stupid western propaganda statements.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    And now Lukashenko himself has backed his border guards and directly and deliberately contracted Putin by saying the Tajiks were heading for Belarus.

    If Lukashenko can shame Putin so publically how weak is Putin. Lukashenko has the remnants of Wagner on his territory. Is everyone conveniently looking in the other direction?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Philip Owen

    And now Lukashenko himself has backed his border guards and directly and deliberately contracted Putin by saying the Tajiks were heading for Belarus.

    Tough day for the Putin bootlickers.

    Their conspiracy theory of Ukraine/US being responsible already had major problems and now Lukashenko is calling Putin a liar.

    Whitney, Pepe and Anglin all should have waited 48 hours before promoting their conspiracy theories.

  1042. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    The Left likes the concept of the Noble Savage too much, that's the problem:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage

    Maybe if race realist research will continue being successful, the Left will eventually change their mind about this?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Maybe if race realist research will continue being successful, the Left will eventually change their mind about this?

    The left within academia already knows it is true. They simply believe that lying and blaming Whites is the better path. Teachers within mixed areas are fully aware that race is real.

    I saw the results first hand and this is a major reason why I am an anti-leftist. I was privy to cheating that occurred at a school for the sake of racial equality. It didn’t work for anyone. The White kids were bored out of their minds and the non-Whites were being passed ahead. The kids that needed extra help were being ignored. It was honestly depressing and I didn’t derive any type of racial glee or racist thoughts. It was just wrong and entirely the result of good intentions by the left. Harming everyone by lying.

    The left will only accept race by kicking and screaming. They know full well that nothing good will come for them if race is accepted. Their best move is to lie and promote race mixing to dilute the results. I despise the left but on a strategic level they are making the correct move. The US right is a bunch of dopes. For the record I am a racial realist populist and not on the right. I am also not a White nationalist but do not take the liberal/Con Inc route of blaming Whites for what are unfortunate racial realities. I am strongly opposed to loading up Whites with guilt or shame for the sake of a fictional ideal.

    The only other plausible scenario is if it becomes plausible for genetic engineering to equalize everyone. The left would accept race in that scenario and hope everyone goes along with their massive about face.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Ha, ha, ha. Get a clue.

    Genetic engineering will most likely be used to make people less equal.

    I don't know if this is good or bad, but it seems predictable.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  1043. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    So sorry to hear about that, he must have been a strong person then to go through all of that and still have a family of his own, you must feel really grateful, btw, many Jews left the Baltic states already during WW1 (and of course there were many Baltic refugees as well). To think about it, so many people from our region have been displaced against their will..

     

    Well, it was undoubtedly very tragic for him, but he appears to have accepted it as a fact of life and thus moved over from it. What's the point of dwelling on something that you can't change, after all?

    As I told you, he was able to see his parents and siblings one last time in 1939 or 1940 (or early 1941, I guess), shortly before Operation Barbarossa occurred and the Holocaust resulted in the murder of his parents and most of his siblings. He himself was able to evacuate to the Soviet interior together with his own family because they lived in Vinnytsia, further to the east, while his parents and siblings lived in or around Sarny, further to the west.

    He probably could have petitioned to immigrate to Israel from the USSR through Poland in the 1950s under Khrushchev had he actually wanted to do this, but by that point he was already pretty old (he was born in 1896; he died in 1985) and already had a well-set life in the USSR, this time in Samara/Kuybyshev Oblast, where his family fled from Vinnytsia in 1941-1942 after first ending up in Volgograd/Stalingrad before fleeing from there to Samara/Kuybyshev Oblast once the Nazis were approaching on Volgograd/Stalingrad in late 1942. (Their evacuation from Vinnytsia to Volgograd/Stalingrad itself occurred in mid-1941, shortly before the Nazis conquered Vinnytsia.)

    Of course, I’m well aware of this, I’m in conversation with a few of them. They were absorbed by Lithuanians and partly northern Poles. Some might be in Belarus and Russia. Some migrated away to the West together with the German population after 1945. Some of the orphans in the 1945 went to Lithuania and were adopted by Lithuanians.

     

    Interesting.

    That was a very, very scary moment. Although for some reason my parents didn’t seem that scared. There was some unity in our camp. But maybe they were too careless. Then again what does one gain by succumbing to fear?

     

    Had the coup plotters actually succeeded, you and your parents could have said goodbye to the idea of renewed Baltic independence, possibly indefinitely. Very sad but true.

    Not being an expert on this, I would guess that the quotient would be something like 1,7-2+. The truth is is that fertility had fallen in the 1970s and then it went up again in the 1980s – either due to the prohibition or higher oil prices or some other psychological boost so if this type of a boost were to be maintained, the number would be relatively healthy and stable, it wouldn’t be high, but it wouldn’t be low either.

     

    But it's not clear that a non-Bolshevik Russia can sustain such a high TFR among its Slavs. Maybe it could, but it's not guaranteed after it liberalizes if it was ever a right-wing dictatorship before that. Look at just how low Spain's and Portugal's TFRs are right now, for instance. Even Ireland's TFR is at 1.70 right now, at the very low end of your range here.

    I doubt a color revolution is possible or all that likely. More likely would be a kind of a chaotization as the war drags on and then a war over the resources by various factions. This is probably the worst case scenario and may not necessarily come to pass, but at this point, if things continue this way and even if there is a large offensive that’s not all that successful, then this shouldn’t be excluded.

     

    So, a Russian civil war? If so, then who exactly would you expect to win this Russian civil war?

    Replies: @LatW

    Had the coup plotters actually succeeded, you and your parents could have said goodbye to the idea of renewed Baltic independence, possibly indefinitely. Very sad but true.

    This is speculative, there would’ve been even more bloodshed, possibly much more, and not just in the Baltics but across the whole ex-USSR. Everyone in the parents’ generation at that time was reading Ogonyok (ask your dad, he will explain), and they were quite young, in their 30s. The regime was destined to fall, sooner or later.

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    But it’s not clear that a non-Bolshevik Russia can sustain such a high TFR among its Slavs. Maybe it could, but it’s not guaranteed after it liberalizes if it was ever a right-wing dictatorship before that. Look at just how low Spain’s and Portugal’s TFRs are right now, for instance. Even Ireland’s TFR is at 1.70 right now, at the very low end of your range here.

    I was talking about that particular context of the 1980s. The TFR would be retained at that level, if that context was maintained (pressure to marry and have children early for both sexes, no women available for casual sex, no porn, full male employment, strong daycare system, etc). Of course, that was within a totalitarian context, but it is doubtful that Russia would liberalize to the same extent as the West – not in the period of, let’s say, 1917 to 1960s-70s. Possibly even later. Not in the manner that the West did. Spain, Portugal, Ireland – you are posting these as an example from the current times, where everything has already gone to maximum liberalism and social atomization plus overly expensive neo-liberal banking and housing system, this wasn’t the case in the 1990s, at least not in Ireland. Not sure, but Spain, Portugal and Italy may have started languishing earlier (because those countries had strong Communist and liberal tendencies, early on). In other Catholic regions it may have been better.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    This is speculative, there would’ve been even more bloodshed, possibly much more, and not just in the Baltics but across the whole ex-USSR. Everyone in the parents’ generation at that time was reading Ogonyok (ask your dad, he will explain), and they were quite young, in their 30s. The regime was destined to fall, sooner or later.

     

    Or the new USSR regime could crush most resistance just like Lukashenko did in Belarus in 2020. Repression does sometimes work, just often not in moderation.

    Ukrainians wanted independence to secure a better quality of life for themselves. The question is whether a surviving USSR would ever be able to significantly reform its economy and achieve huge economic growth.

    I was talking about that particular context of the 1980s. The TFR would be retained at that level, if that context was maintained (pressure to marry and have children early for both sexes, no women available for casual sex, no porn, full male employment, strong daycare system, etc). Of course, that was within a totalitarian context, but it is doubtful that Russia would liberalize to the same extent as the West – not in the period of, let’s say, 1917 to 1960s-70s. Possibly even later. Not in the manner that the West did. Spain, Portugal, Ireland – you are posting these as an example from the current times, where everything has already gone to maximum liberalism and social atomization plus overly expensive neo-liberal banking and housing system, this wasn’t the case in the 1990s, at least not in Ireland. Not sure, but Spain, Portugal and Italy may have started languishing earlier (because those countries had strong Communist and liberal tendencies, early on). In other Catholic regions it may have been better.
     
    Interesting. Thank you. I wonder if within the Russian federal unit of a non-Bolshevik Greater Russia the TFR could have been boosted even further by the promotion of both Russian nationalism and the Russian Orthodox Church, similar to how religious Jews (along with Jewish nationalism) significantly boost Israel's TFR. What do you think? I know that Russia was a gigantic religious hub before the Bolsheviks took it over and I don't think that the SRs were as rabidly anti-religious as the Bolsheviks were, but I could be wrong about this.
  1044. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Maybe if race realist research will continue being successful, the Left will eventually change their mind about this?

    The left within academia already knows it is true. They simply believe that lying and blaming Whites is the better path. Teachers within mixed areas are fully aware that race is real.

    I saw the results first hand and this is a major reason why I am an anti-leftist. I was privy to cheating that occurred at a school for the sake of racial equality. It didn't work for anyone. The White kids were bored out of their minds and the non-Whites were being passed ahead. The kids that needed extra help were being ignored. It was honestly depressing and I didn't derive any type of racial glee or racist thoughts. It was just wrong and entirely the result of good intentions by the left. Harming everyone by lying.

    The left will only accept race by kicking and screaming. They know full well that nothing good will come for them if race is accepted. Their best move is to lie and promote race mixing to dilute the results. I despise the left but on a strategic level they are making the correct move. The US right is a bunch of dopes. For the record I am a racial realist populist and not on the right. I am also not a White nationalist but do not take the liberal/Con Inc route of blaming Whites for what are unfortunate racial realities. I am strongly opposed to loading up Whites with guilt or shame for the sake of a fictional ideal.

    The only other plausible scenario is if it becomes plausible for genetic engineering to equalize everyone. The left would accept race in that scenario and hope everyone goes along with their massive about face.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Ha, ha, ha. Get a clue.

    Genetic engineering will most likely be used to make people less equal.

    I don’t know if this is good or bad, but it seems predictable.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Ha, ha, ha. Get a clue.

    Genetic engineering will most likely be used to make people less equal.

    I never said that it will work or that it is a good plan.

    I said they will adopt the idea when it is plausible and then make a complete reversal on race denial.

    When designer babies are possible the left will switch to genetic engineering as a solution. They will abandon race denial in the hope that science will equalize everyone.

    Such a plan would be fraught with problems and yes it wouldn't bring about true equality for many reasons. In fact I would expect the left to makes things worse if they had their hands on a CRISPR type machine that could be used on every baby. I would fully expect them to completely fuck everything up and make a dystopia of nightmares. They would go straight to trying to create geniuses of all races (but Whites) without considering the consequences. Meaning they would immediately turn up the CRISPR to 11.

    Hopefully the West will be straighten out a bit before that occurs.

    Replies: @songbird

  1045. @Philip Owen
    @Gerard1234

    And now Lukashenko himself has backed his border guards and directly and deliberately contracted Putin by saying the Tajiks were heading for Belarus.

    If Lukashenko can shame Putin so publically how weak is Putin. Lukashenko has the remnants of Wagner on his territory. Is everyone conveniently looking in the other direction?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    And now Lukashenko himself has backed his border guards and directly and deliberately contracted Putin by saying the Tajiks were heading for Belarus.

    Tough day for the Putin bootlickers.

    Their conspiracy theory of Ukraine/US being responsible already had major problems and now Lukashenko is calling Putin a liar.

    Whitney, Pepe and Anglin all should have waited 48 hours before promoting their conspiracy theories.

  1046. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Ha, ha, ha. Get a clue.

    Genetic engineering will most likely be used to make people less equal.

    I don't know if this is good or bad, but it seems predictable.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Ha, ha, ha. Get a clue.

    Genetic engineering will most likely be used to make people less equal.

    I never said that it will work or that it is a good plan.

    I said they will adopt the idea when it is plausible and then make a complete reversal on race denial.

    When designer babies are possible the left will switch to genetic engineering as a solution. They will abandon race denial in the hope that science will equalize everyone.

    Such a plan would be fraught with problems and yes it wouldn’t bring about true equality for many reasons. In fact I would expect the left to makes things worse if they had their hands on a CRISPR type machine that could be used on every baby. I would fully expect them to completely fuck everything up and make a dystopia of nightmares. They would go straight to trying to create geniuses of all races (but Whites) without considering the consequences. Meaning they would immediately turn up the CRISPR to 11.

    Hopefully the West will be straighten out a bit before that occurs.

    • Agree: QCIC
    • Replies: @songbird
    @John Johnson


    Meaning they would immediately turn up the CRISPR to 11.
     
    Most plausible path would be embryo selection.

    Probably too taboo for public money, as the blacks and Latinos it would result in would be more European, if they were selecting for intelligence and not for skin color. (Though conceivably they could do both, somewhat separately.)

    CRISPR itself almost certainly would not work as there are off-target effects

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  1047. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Ha, ha, ha. Get a clue.

    Genetic engineering will most likely be used to make people less equal.

    I never said that it will work or that it is a good plan.

    I said they will adopt the idea when it is plausible and then make a complete reversal on race denial.

    When designer babies are possible the left will switch to genetic engineering as a solution. They will abandon race denial in the hope that science will equalize everyone.

    Such a plan would be fraught with problems and yes it wouldn't bring about true equality for many reasons. In fact I would expect the left to makes things worse if they had their hands on a CRISPR type machine that could be used on every baby. I would fully expect them to completely fuck everything up and make a dystopia of nightmares. They would go straight to trying to create geniuses of all races (but Whites) without considering the consequences. Meaning they would immediately turn up the CRISPR to 11.

    Hopefully the West will be straighten out a bit before that occurs.

    Replies: @songbird

    Meaning they would immediately turn up the CRISPR to 11.

    Most plausible path would be embryo selection.

    Probably too taboo for public money, as the blacks and Latinos it would result in would be more European, if they were selecting for intelligence and not for skin color. (Though conceivably they could do both, somewhat separately.)

    CRISPR itself almost certainly would not work as there are off-target effects

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Yep, it would be interesting to see the more nationalistic blacks and Latinos select the embryos that both have a lot of black/Native American ancestry and have high polygenetic IQ scores.

    Replies: @songbird

  1048. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    The US West coast, the BosWash megalopolis, Florida, the Southwestern US (including Texas), and the Chicago metropolitan area are good examples of what we can expect
     
    I already live there. Demographic projections, even without immigration seem to be very bleak at this point. Florida and the SW especially.

    The thing you idealize will be very different in 30-50 years time. You may have buyer's remorse at that time. Your blood would curdle, to be around certain Boston area schools, when they let out. (And I am not even speaking of American blacks.)

    Cities are arguably IQ shredders, but that’s true for cities everywhere, including in the developing world.
     
    surely, it is more pronounced, when smart people are moving to the same cities? I don't see how it could be otherwise.

    Canada appears to work pretty well, as do both Australia and New Zealand...And their Woke lunacy. But they’re still selective about whom they let in.
     
    I'm not really convinced this is true. Aren't there blacks in Australia now?

    one might still wonder whether it would be easier for cognitive elites to physically have access to each other.
     
    Short term visas. Mutual exchanges and international cities.

    There’s also the fact that career opportunities for talented people outside of the West might often be significantly less–and less appealing–than they would be for them in the West.
     
    seems like an argument for the creation of special economic zones, rather than open borders, IMO.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I already live there. Demographic projections, even without immigration seem to be very bleak at this point. Florida and the SW especially.

    The thing you idealize will be very different in 30-50 years time. You may have buyer’s remorse at that time. Your blood would curdle, to be around certain Boston area schools, when they let out. (And I am not even speaking of American blacks.)

    Maybe Boston Hispanics are worse than Southwest Hispanics? Do they have more African admixture?

    Santa Ana, California is dumpy and much less nice than Irvine, California but still a tolerable place to live in. I wouldn’t want the entire US to turn into Santa Ana, of course, since it is the Irvines and Friscos of the US and not the Santa Anas of the US which are fueling US scientific and technological progress forward. But I like the Santa Anas for their quaint, rustic atmosphere: A taste of Latin America with much lower homicide rates than in much of Latin America.

    surely, it is more pronounced, when smart people are moving to the same cities? I don’t see how it could be otherwise.

    But there are a lot of cities and suburbs for smart people to move to in the US, and metropolitan areas can often keep on expanding and expanding, like the ones in Texas are currently doing.

    It’s not like Russia where most of the smart people only flock to either Moscow or St. Petersburg. The US’s smart people are much more spread out. And it’s not like the US will have a shortage of space anytime soon. The parts of the US that do begin to have some shortage of space, such as California, might have already reached their peak population.

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    I’m not really convinced this is true. Aren’t there blacks in Australia now?

    Yes, but just how many are cognitive elites rather than refugees? I know that Australia is extraordinarily brutal towards illegal asylum seekers, even smart ones such as this man:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/24/australia/australia-refugee-death-intl-hnk/index.html

    Short term visas. Mutual exchanges and international cities.

    But what if they want to make Western universities their main base of operations?

    seems like an argument for the creation of special economic zones, rather than open borders, IMO.

    Possibly. But good luck building such SEZs and/or charter cities. I’m willing to support their creation and cause, of course.

  1049. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ


    Had the coup plotters actually succeeded, you and your parents could have said goodbye to the idea of renewed Baltic independence, possibly indefinitely. Very sad but true.
     
    This is speculative, there would've been even more bloodshed, possibly much more, and not just in the Baltics but across the whole ex-USSR. Everyone in the parents' generation at that time was reading Ogonyok (ask your dad, he will explain), and they were quite young, in their 30s. The regime was destined to fall, sooner or later.

    But it’s not clear that a non-Bolshevik Russia can sustain such a high TFR among its Slavs. Maybe it could, but it’s not guaranteed after it liberalizes if it was ever a right-wing dictatorship before that. Look at just how low Spain’s and Portugal’s TFRs are right now, for instance. Even Ireland’s TFR is at 1.70 right now, at the very low end of your range here.
     
    I was talking about that particular context of the 1980s. The TFR would be retained at that level, if that context was maintained (pressure to marry and have children early for both sexes, no women available for casual sex, no porn, full male employment, strong daycare system, etc). Of course, that was within a totalitarian context, but it is doubtful that Russia would liberalize to the same extent as the West - not in the period of, let's say, 1917 to 1960s-70s. Possibly even later. Not in the manner that the West did. Spain, Portugal, Ireland - you are posting these as an example from the current times, where everything has already gone to maximum liberalism and social atomization plus overly expensive neo-liberal banking and housing system, this wasn't the case in the 1990s, at least not in Ireland. Not sure, but Spain, Portugal and Italy may have started languishing earlier (because those countries had strong Communist and liberal tendencies, early on). In other Catholic regions it may have been better.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    This is speculative, there would’ve been even more bloodshed, possibly much more, and not just in the Baltics but across the whole ex-USSR. Everyone in the parents’ generation at that time was reading Ogonyok (ask your dad, he will explain), and they were quite young, in their 30s. The regime was destined to fall, sooner or later.

    Or the new USSR regime could crush most resistance just like Lukashenko did in Belarus in 2020. Repression does sometimes work, just often not in moderation.

    Ukrainians wanted independence to secure a better quality of life for themselves. The question is whether a surviving USSR would ever be able to significantly reform its economy and achieve huge economic growth.

    I was talking about that particular context of the 1980s. The TFR would be retained at that level, if that context was maintained (pressure to marry and have children early for both sexes, no women available for casual sex, no porn, full male employment, strong daycare system, etc). Of course, that was within a totalitarian context, but it is doubtful that Russia would liberalize to the same extent as the West – not in the period of, let’s say, 1917 to 1960s-70s. Possibly even later. Not in the manner that the West did. Spain, Portugal, Ireland – you are posting these as an example from the current times, where everything has already gone to maximum liberalism and social atomization plus overly expensive neo-liberal banking and housing system, this wasn’t the case in the 1990s, at least not in Ireland. Not sure, but Spain, Portugal and Italy may have started languishing earlier (because those countries had strong Communist and liberal tendencies, early on). In other Catholic regions it may have been better.

    Interesting. Thank you. I wonder if within the Russian federal unit of a non-Bolshevik Greater Russia the TFR could have been boosted even further by the promotion of both Russian nationalism and the Russian Orthodox Church, similar to how religious Jews (along with Jewish nationalism) significantly boost Israel’s TFR. What do you think? I know that Russia was a gigantic religious hub before the Bolsheviks took it over and I don’t think that the SRs were as rabidly anti-religious as the Bolsheviks were, but I could be wrong about this.

  1050. @songbird
    @John Johnson


    Meaning they would immediately turn up the CRISPR to 11.
     
    Most plausible path would be embryo selection.

    Probably too taboo for public money, as the blacks and Latinos it would result in would be more European, if they were selecting for intelligence and not for skin color. (Though conceivably they could do both, somewhat separately.)

    CRISPR itself almost certainly would not work as there are off-target effects

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Yep, it would be interesting to see the more nationalistic blacks and Latinos select the embryos that both have a lot of black/Native American ancestry and have high polygenetic IQ scores.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Yep, it would be interesting to see the more nationalistic blacks and Latinos select the embryos that both have a lot of black/Native American ancestry and have high polygenetic IQ scores.
     
    was speaking of the fact that skin coloration is reliant on relatively few genes, compared to intelligence, so one could select for more European DNA, while not selecting for whiter skin.

    Maybe Boston Hispanics are worse than Southwest Hispanics? Do they have more African admixture?

     

    was actually speaking more specifically of full on Africans mixed in with what appears to be low-caste people from the sub-Continent. Imagine a school where one did not see any Euros, East Asians, or Latinos or high-caste Indians. I have seen one.

    The school itself is more terrifying than the neighborhood, but inevitably the school will turn into the neighborhood. We haven't seen the built-in changes move up in the cohorts yet. But if a whole city looked like that, I don't see how it could remotely function like any place outside the worst parts of the Third World.

    Not sure about black admixture in Hispanics vs. other areas. Probably similar to any place on the East coast. One of the many broadcast Spanish channels catered to Dominicans, and even had its own local newscast. But that was a few years ago, and there are many Puerto Ricans and people from Venezuela. But the majority are more from Mexico or Central America.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  1051. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Yep, it would be interesting to see the more nationalistic blacks and Latinos select the embryos that both have a lot of black/Native American ancestry and have high polygenetic IQ scores.

    Replies: @songbird

    Yep, it would be interesting to see the more nationalistic blacks and Latinos select the embryos that both have a lot of black/Native American ancestry and have high polygenetic IQ scores.

    was speaking of the fact that skin coloration is reliant on relatively few genes, compared to intelligence, so one could select for more European DNA, while not selecting for whiter skin.

    Maybe Boston Hispanics are worse than Southwest Hispanics? Do they have more African admixture?

    was actually speaking more specifically of full on Africans mixed in with what appears to be low-caste people from the sub-Continent. Imagine a school where one did not see any Euros, East Asians, or Latinos or high-caste Indians. I have seen one.

    The school itself is more terrifying than the neighborhood, but inevitably the school will turn into the neighborhood. We haven’t seen the built-in changes move up in the cohorts yet. But if a whole city looked like that, I don’t see how it could remotely function like any place outside the worst parts of the Third World.

    Not sure about black admixture in Hispanics vs. other areas. Probably similar to any place on the East coast. One of the many broadcast Spanish channels catered to Dominicans, and even had its own local newscast. But that was a few years ago, and there are many Puerto Ricans and people from Venezuela. But the majority are more from Mexico or Central America.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    According to this, a lot of the recent illegal Indian immigrants to the US are actually middle-class:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/03/india-undocumented-immigrants/


    The immigrants are often from middle-class families. They frequently sell their land to pay for the journey — which families say can run $40,000 to $100,000 per person — hoping that working in America will triple their wages, produce a secure future for their children and yield a higher value in the marriage market for their sons.

    These migrants are “not the desperately poor” and often come from the most prosperous states in India, said Devesh Kapur, a South Asian studies professor at Johns Hopkins University who focuses on the Indian diaspora. But faced with a shortage of attractive jobs and a struggling agricultural sector, they find that the wealth they have in India is not enough to transform their lives, and this creates “a culture of migration,” he said.
     

    Replies: @songbird

  1052. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Yep, it would be interesting to see the more nationalistic blacks and Latinos select the embryos that both have a lot of black/Native American ancestry and have high polygenetic IQ scores.
     
    was speaking of the fact that skin coloration is reliant on relatively few genes, compared to intelligence, so one could select for more European DNA, while not selecting for whiter skin.

    Maybe Boston Hispanics are worse than Southwest Hispanics? Do they have more African admixture?

     

    was actually speaking more specifically of full on Africans mixed in with what appears to be low-caste people from the sub-Continent. Imagine a school where one did not see any Euros, East Asians, or Latinos or high-caste Indians. I have seen one.

    The school itself is more terrifying than the neighborhood, but inevitably the school will turn into the neighborhood. We haven't seen the built-in changes move up in the cohorts yet. But if a whole city looked like that, I don't see how it could remotely function like any place outside the worst parts of the Third World.

    Not sure about black admixture in Hispanics vs. other areas. Probably similar to any place on the East coast. One of the many broadcast Spanish channels catered to Dominicans, and even had its own local newscast. But that was a few years ago, and there are many Puerto Ricans and people from Venezuela. But the majority are more from Mexico or Central America.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    According to this, a lot of the recent illegal Indian immigrants to the US are actually middle-class:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/03/india-undocumented-immigrants/

    The immigrants are often from middle-class families. They frequently sell their land to pay for the journey — which families say can run $40,000 to $100,000 per person — hoping that working in America will triple their wages, produce a secure future for their children and yield a higher value in the marriage market for their sons.

    These migrants are “not the desperately poor” and often come from the most prosperous states in India, said Devesh Kapur, a South Asian studies professor at Johns Hopkins University who focuses on the Indian diaspora. But faced with a shortage of attractive jobs and a struggling agricultural sector, they find that the wealth they have in India is not enough to transform their lives, and this creates “a culture of migration,” he said.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Well, I don't know, but it is hard for me to imagine capable Indians sending their kids to school with Africans.

    The crowd all looked so alien too. It put the lie to the idea of melting pot or integration. When you don't see a single Euro kid in a place that was probably 99 % a few decades ago, that is just replacement migration, and you can't make a good argument for that, unless your only argument is to predicate it on alien interests.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  1053. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    According to this, a lot of the recent illegal Indian immigrants to the US are actually middle-class:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/03/india-undocumented-immigrants/


    The immigrants are often from middle-class families. They frequently sell their land to pay for the journey — which families say can run $40,000 to $100,000 per person — hoping that working in America will triple their wages, produce a secure future for their children and yield a higher value in the marriage market for their sons.

    These migrants are “not the desperately poor” and often come from the most prosperous states in India, said Devesh Kapur, a South Asian studies professor at Johns Hopkins University who focuses on the Indian diaspora. But faced with a shortage of attractive jobs and a struggling agricultural sector, they find that the wealth they have in India is not enough to transform their lives, and this creates “a culture of migration,” he said.
     

    Replies: @songbird

    Well, I don’t know, but it is hard for me to imagine capable Indians sending their kids to school with Africans.

    The crowd all looked so alien too. It put the lie to the idea of melting pot or integration. When you don’t see a single Euro kid in a place that was probably 99 % a few decades ago, that is just replacement migration, and you can’t make a good argument for that, unless your only argument is to predicate it on alien interests.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Well, which blacks are moving illegally to the US so far? The middle-class types or the poorer types?

    It's also possible for Indians to send their schools together with blacks simply due to a lack of awareness of just how many bad apples US black descendants of slaves actually have in their own communities.

  1054. @LatW
    @Coconuts


    Degrelle seems to have been more like the man of action that Drieu often wished he was, like a right-wing version of Malraux (Degrelle probably did even more fighting and risky stuff).
     
    Don't know about Malraux but Drieu strikes me as very different from Degrelle - both in terms of the themes that preoccupy him and in the genre of writing, of course. Degrelle is a soldier, a politician, an ideologue, definitely a "man of action", as you say (and as is in line with his ideology), but Drieu is a poet, a writer, maybe a cultural critic.

    (Btw, Degrelle was in Narva, Estonia, and wrote about it in his diaries).


    Whereas most of the pro-German French seem to have been aware of the riskiness of what they were doing from the beginning, then especially when the limits of what the Germans were prepared to offer became more clear.
     
    For us it became clear quite early, already the first year, I think. But this is a bit similar to how the Latvian Thunder Cross party (our own fascist org) felt about the German occupation (this org in the 1930s had relations with the Romanian Iron Guard).

    Our situation was even more sensitive due to our history with the Baltic Germans (the Thunder Cross had been somewhat anti-German in the 1930s). Even at first, in 1941, the collaboration between them and the German occupation regime was primarily tactical in nature. The Germans acknowledged that the Thunder Cross had political objectives that diverged from their own (even though, technically as National Socialists (or rather fascists), they were seen as potential intermediaries for the German leadership). But they had previously been somewhat hostile to both Jews and Germans. So it was an ambiguous relationship and a short one because by August 1941, the Germans banned them. The leader was actually arrested by Gestapo for continuing with the underground nationalist publications and then sent to Dachau. But he survived.


    I thought about including it somewhere in the introduction but didn’t find a place to use it in the end.
     
    That quote was really cool, just probably difficult to place in the right way. I really like the quote he used right before his death ("Yes I am no ordinary patriot, no limited nationalist. I am an internationalist. I am not only a Frenchman, I am a European. You are Europeans too, whether you know it or not."). That is an awesome, powerful quote that would resonate with quite a few.

    Two of the novels he wrote during the war definitely have more pagan and spiritual elements (there is a lot of discussion of the Upanishads in one of them, it is part of the internal monologue of the main character), and in his diaries and final texts you can see he is thinking more about this.
     
    That's interesting, because it seems that in the Notes.. he approaches it more carefully, he shows appreciation for both Christianity and paganism (he does note that Christianity is partly derived from paganism or at least related to it in the origin). But then the whole ethos of his writing where he praises the vitality and the connectedness to the "body" and Nature, during the Middle Ages and in general as a goal of man, there it seems more pagan in its essence. Maybe later in life some of these types turn a bit more spiritual.

    Drieu raises it a few times, I think there is a part towards the end of the Notes… where it reappears.

     

    Yes, I noticed, too, that it was mentioned twice, iirc, it reappeared in the end so I thought that was meaningful.

    the idea of palingenesis, the idea of rebirth, and aspects of the past being used as a source of inspiration for the content of the future
     
    Very interesting, thanks - I had not heard of this term, but I've identified this trend a lot before (it appears in our groups a lot as well). Look:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenetic_ultranationalism


    Sorel and some of his followers came from radical syndicalism originally, so the far-left, but were promoting a revolution against Progress and democracy in order to create a society of ‘warriors and producers’.
     
    I can see those "working class" roots there, although this does sound more leftist than National Socialism. Although it does remind me a little of the Green fascism that I mentioned a while back regarding the Wehrbauerconcept (a kind of a forward positioned German soldier-peasant on the outskirts of the Reich - which to me as a Latvian is both scary and fascinating at once) and the ideas of Richard Walther Darré (organic country living - one is also a kind of a "producer" in that context, very much so).

    Sorel had extended his theory of political myth by creating an anti-rational, anti-Enlightenment concept of the sublime which looked to various influences (Classical Greece, some aspects of Christianity, regionalism and primitivism as well as ‘heroic labour’).
     
    This is interesting, because I was just thinking about this the other day, as I was reading Drieu - I was wondering if it would be possible to synthesize things from different eras or even different ideologies to create something for the current times and the future. "Heroic labor" is maybe a bit too exalted and idealistic and definitely a bit Commie sounding, and probably wouldn't be embraced by today's masses (certainly one doesn't want to push it on people and who will even volunteer for that?), however, as a purely idealistic idea, it's not bad. Imagine that combined with nationalism? But in a similar vein, there are ideas from the past that would be interesting to see if they can still live. Purely experimental, of course. :)

    Replies: @Coconuts

    Don’t know about Malraux but Drieu strikes me as very different from Degrelle – both in terms of the themes that preoccupy him and in the genre of writing, of course.

    Yes, Drieu always had a sort of feeling of dissatisfaction or even guilt about being a writer, linked to his belief in the importance of being a man of action and ‘of force’. This is why he made periodic attempts to get involved in practical politics, from a literary and creative point of view these attempts were important to him but they weren’t that successful in practical terms.  He tended to start out with enthusiasm but then start to self-analyze and become introspective again. 

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    But this is a bit similar to how the Latvian Thunder Cross party (our own fascist org) felt about the German occupation (this org in the 1930s had relations with the Romanian Iron Guard).

    I read a bit about them last time I was visiting Riga, I see on Wikipedia that Celmiņš was also hoping that significant Latvian military forces would be raised, I guess in their own units with Latvian nationalist commanders? Drieu was hoping for a real fascist single party in France, that the Germans specifically didn’t want to allow anyone to establish.

    That is an awesome, powerful quote that would resonate with quite a few.

    I have heard Alan de Benoist reference Drieu’s idea of Europe a few times, it seems to have been an inspiration for him. There is one interview where he mentions the quite obscure Drieu book ‘Le Français de l’Europe’, a compilation of the last articles Drieu wrote, where he is critical of the Nazis for their policies around the European issue during the occupation. It was published just before the liberation of France in 1944 so most copies were pulped. (I would guess de Benoist has a copy in his huge library).  

    That’s interesting, because it seems that in the Notes.. he approaches it more carefully, he shows appreciation for both Christianity and paganism (he does note that Christianity is partly derived from paganism or at least related to it in the origin).

    He has the same attitude in Gilles, but there is an interesting part towards the end of
    Gilleswhen Gilles is in Spain and participates in a discussion about the future of the Catholic Church and fascism, he argues that the defeat of fascism will lead to the eclipse of the Church. It is weirdly prescient in some ways when you observe what has been happening to the Churches in Western Europe (their demographic profile is shrinking and getting older and older, apart from recent immigrants). I think that intuitions of this kind may have moved him towards the Upanishads, as it became clear that fascism was going to be defeated, he seems to have concluded that the more pagan view contained the deepest enduring insights for him.   

    Although it does remind me a little of the Green fascism that I mentioned a while back regarding the Wehrbauerconcept (a kind of a forward positioned German soldier-peasant on the outskirts of the Reich – which to me as a Latvian is both scary and fascinating at once) and the ideas of Richard Walther Darré (organic country living – one is also a kind of a “producer” in that context, very much so).

    It seems to be related to that idea, and these are the sort of producers Sorel was thinking of as well as industrial workers. I found the Wehrbauer thing interesting when you brought it up, it was something I had vague memories of reading about a long time ago, and that Hitler wanted to do it to preserve the vitality of the Germans. I remember sometimes vaguely thinking about the purpose behind these German colonisation schemes when I was at my wife’s family dacha in Belarus and in the countryside there. Living at the dacha sometimes during the summer and helping with the potatoes (my sister-in-law calls it ‘agricultural tourism’) did have some educational effect, because I’d always lived in urban environments in the UK till then. Now I am thinking about it, it’s possible I’ve been finding these ideas of Sorel and Drieu interesting because of experiences like this…  

     

    I was wondering if it would be possible to synthesize things from different eras or even different ideologies to create something for the current times and the future.

    It might be necessary, in Western countries the spirit of progressivism has been very influential in the culture for a long time (though usually in more moderate forms that at present.) But it is going in some strange directions, and over time taking into account things like demographic change it may start to falter, if the contradictions within it become too obvious.

  1055. @LatW
    @Coconuts

    The Oswald Spengler society awarded the Spengler prize to Jordan Peterson in 2022. For the "ruthless analysis of the decay of our civilization” and because Peterson “fights for holding on to the very own basic values of our civilization,” which makes his work “increasingly compatible and complementary to that of Spengler.”

    https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/jordan-peterson-spengler-prize/

    Also, check this out (the one David Engels had a guest lecture at our uni as well, his work is mostly in German):

    https://www.amazon.com/Michel-Houellebecq-Spengler-Untergang-Abendlandes/dp/3944872916

    Replies: @Coconuts

    I realised I knew the name David Engels in connection with Spengler, I was trying to remember from where… It was here in Alain de Benoist’s program on the TVL channel where he is one of the participants:

    I think they mention Houellebecq in this interview, but not JBP. His award would still be in the future at this point.

  1056. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Well, I don't know, but it is hard for me to imagine capable Indians sending their kids to school with Africans.

    The crowd all looked so alien too. It put the lie to the idea of melting pot or integration. When you don't see a single Euro kid in a place that was probably 99 % a few decades ago, that is just replacement migration, and you can't make a good argument for that, unless your only argument is to predicate it on alien interests.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Well, which blacks are moving illegally to the US so far? The middle-class types or the poorer types?

    It’s also possible for Indians to send their schools together with blacks simply due to a lack of awareness of just how many bad apples US black descendants of slaves actually have in their own communities.

  1057. @LatW
    @Coconuts

    Very interesting quote, shows how intellectually stifling their Communist environment must have been, even if it is typically portrayed as super free and liberating. They must have resented and feared anything even close to fascist like the plague...

    Did you read the novel Gilles? You know this theme of the jaded person's search for purity... in real life it really annoys me, because a lot of those people have, frankly, been total libertines and have even caused harm so their overstated criticism of the modern lifestyles, politics and customs - in which they themselves wallowed plentifully - strikes me as hypocritical, but when it is written in such beautiful and introspective prose, as with Drieu, it seems completely different (more pure, more romantic and idealistic). And the final, radical step is also cool as a kind of a catharsis or resolution.

    Interestingly, a small publishing house in BC has translated it:
    https://tikhanovlibrary.substack.com/p/gilles-pierre-drieu-la-rochelle

    I wonder how accurately it is conveying those times and how much it is author's imagination and reflection. I'm sure it portrays that historic time vividly, but he also seems to have a somewhat heightened perception of his surroundings and his cultural background and the social problems at hand. Meaning, he may have portrayed things as crazier than they were (which I like). Even during a period of crisis such as a civil war.

    I found it in one of those small second hand book shops that used to exist in the UK (mostly these have gone), a shop in an old building with a leaking roof and small gas fire in the corner for heat.
     

    Those are the best. Btw, there is a British comedy about one of those called Black Books.

    So these ideas of civilisational decline were still around, but in the background, like from a period of intense debate that was retreating in time. Later at university, they tended to be presented as discredited, even if in literature you had to study their presence through modernist poetry and fiction.

     

    I recall the same thing, that some at the university looked down on it a little, maybe because they didn't like the statement that the West "has declined" (as it would require them to explain the validity of the several post-modernist schools of philosophy that came later and which they treated as superior to Spengler). Somehow it felt that it was not put in the same higher category as, for example, Nietzsche (apparently he was laid to rest holding copies of Nietzsche's Zarathustra and Faust). But it is sometimes referred to in right leaning writings.

    By the way, the title of the book (Der Untergang des Abendlandes) should not be translated as "The Decline of the West" but as "The Decline of the Evening Lands" - not sure there is an English version for that (Occidental lands is a bit different), in my language, too, we call Western Europe the "evening lands" (same as in German here) because that is where the sun sets, where daylight fades. Does it not include Eastern Europe as well these days? That's an honest question to ask my friends...


    It was surprising that in the last few years, they have suddenly started to seem relevant again, as if the decline they were talking about is in one way or another real
     
    That is very interesting, because certain social trends seem to have accelerated in the last decade or so.

    You know what fascinates me, is that there were authors already back in the 1930s commenting on the very same things that are being commented on at our time (family relations, urbanization, emancipation, egotism, atomization, etc) - and yet it seems that things should've been better in the 1930s. But they seem to have had these issues already then, possibly even in the late 19th century (in some strata). I recall reading a book from the 1930s Latvia that was ardently antifeminist, and it surprised me, as I had been under the illusion that things had been different back then (of course, they were, but the main themes were already there, in the city).

    It's just that the Great Replacement wasn't yet taking place then. One can possibly learn to live with the sexual degeneracy (and we've learned to live with individualism), but the actual physical replacement will be it. There is just no way around that.

    Btw, it's quite funny that Macron likes Houellebecq. It's interesting that he feels that France is more sensitive to this, I've been thinking that it might also be the French character - they seem to be more open than other Europeans, their critique seems stronger, others seem a bit more timid. I was recently reading some political comments on French websites - they are really not afraid to express their opinion, even if it's not flattering. It's quite amusing, I love it! :)


    I finished setting up a book version of Notes… on Amazon so it is now available as a paperback
     
    Well, I went ahead and bought it, because the language just flows so beautifully, and it's a nice cover, too - the healthy European man in all his splendor! :) Probably better than some crazy surrealist art. :)

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    Did you read the novel Gilles?

    I am reading it at the moment, it is a meaty novel (around 600 pages). I noticed that it was being finally translated into English, this is good. It was always a bit curious that it has never been done before, when a lot of the great French political novels from the 1930s and 40s were translated into English after the war. I think it would have become a cult novel if it had been available.

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    …but when it is written in such beautiful and introspective prose, as with Drieu, it seems completely different (more pure, more romantic and idealistic).

    I became quite interested in what sets Drieu’s work apart, the mix of romanticism and harder realism, because it is unusual and has a particular feel to it. I think I can see some relationship to other modernist literature from the same era.

    I’m sure it portrays that historic time vividly, but he also seems to have a somewhat heightened perception of his surroundings and his cultural background and the social problems at hand…

    Yes, I think his portrayal is influenced by his own sensibility and background beliefs. A lot of the things he writes about do seem to have been part of the social scene in that time, I have seen other writers also describe some of the same things. Just at that time I guess they would be typical in only small segments of society, among the wealthy and/or Bohemian, so Drieu would be quite avant-garde in writing about this stuff. (Gilles is a also a roman à clef, many of the characters are based on real people). Then it had turned out to have predictive value, as elite values and norms have spread through wider society.

    Does it not include Eastern Europe as well these days? That’s an honest question to ask my friends…

    It sounds poetic in German. From observing Belarus I would say it is a continent wide phenomena, in one form or another.

    You know what fascinates me, is that there were authors already back in the 1930s commenting on the very same things that are being commented on at our time…

    In France at least (this may also be true in Germany) a lot of these things were already being identified as trends even earlier, in the later 19th century, I think as people were processing the new urban and industrial phenomena and how it related to political beliefs inherited from the Enlightenment era. But at this time people were still in contact with older value systems and could see the contrast. And as you say these things were more evident in major urban trading centres and capital cities, they would take a long time to reach the rest of the people.

    On early predictions about feminism, there is a famous book from 1875 by Proudhon, the ‘father of anarchism’ called Pornocratie. He argues that the sexual emancipation of women will lead to the destruction of the family, breakdown of social solidarity and the creation of a ‘sodomitical tyranny’. Though again the idea of pornocracy is even older.

    I’ve been thinking that it might also be the French character – they seem to be more open than other Europeans, their critique seems stronger, others seem a bit more timid.

    There may be a connection here between the previous power of the far-left and these kinds of radicals in France (for example, after 1945, but it has been a recurrent thing). They tend to end up disappointing people, so a certain cynicism and counter-critique has become established.

    Well, I went ahead and bought it, because the language just flows so beautifully, and it’s a nice cover, too – the healthy European man in all his splendor!

    Thanks! There is a bit of a story behind the cover illustration. It is a German porcelain model called Der Sieger designed by Franz Nagy in 1940. I think one of the items made to commemorate the 1940 campaign, it seemed an appropriate cover illustration.

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