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For those interested, here’s my most recent article analyzing the lawsuit accusing Harvard University of antisemitism and discrimination against Jewish students:

Jews and Antisemitism at Harvard University
The Unz Review • January 15, 2024 • 5,500 Words

 
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: Gaza, Israel/Palestine, Russia, Ukraine 
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  1. Finally. The previous thread is over 1,000 comments already.

    • Agree: A123, Catdompanj, LT1488
  2. Qualifying for the 24 Hours of Daytona is up.

    The GTD session was interrupted by Red Flag. Jump to 44:00 in the video to see the new Corvette and Mustang entries.

    PEACE 😇

  3. In regards to Austria-Hungary, I feel like the Austrian half of Austria-Hungary lacked a common unifying theme besides centuries of loyalty to the Hapsburg dynasty. What else was there? The Hungarian half of Austria-Hungary at least had centuries of history as an independent kingdom and nation-state. The Austrian half of Austria-Hungary brought good government (less corruption, et cetera) to its subject territories, an effect that is still felt over 100 years later, but what common unifying theme was there for it? Is relying on just the Hapsburg royal family good enough?

    Even the Austrian half of Austria-Hungary looked kind of funky by itself on a map:

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Seems like the Austrian half of Austria-Hungary could have easily been (purely hypothetically/theoretically) split between Italy, Germany, and a newly recreated independent Poland in order to create a much nicer map. (Romania and Serbia could get Bukovina and Dalmatia, or they could go to Poland and Italy, respectively.)

  4. Anyone know any good China podcasts?

    Am struggling to find even what would be considered the official news. Surprising, thought they spent a lot of money on English-language AM radio stations, etc.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    https://thechinaproject.com/podcasts/

    https://www.csis.org/podcasts/chinapower

    https://carnegieendowment.org/chinaintheworld

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/china-global/id1569469267

    Replies: @songbird

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    You aren't gonna get the fun stuff in English. This one has some of the scenes in Russian

    1. Zelensky was giving speech at UN, because no one showed up, so Ukrainian TV put in an astroturfed cut with more people in audience, except they botched it and Zelensky was in the audience simultaneously.

    2. Blinken came to White House for trick-and-treat and dressed up his son as Zelensky, but it looked so stupid because it implied Zelensky is always there to beg for money.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp54PbHfoDU

    This one is about Putin's possible Jewish heritage. Because Chinese Putin fanboys are like Zelensky is a Jew, Jew this Jew that-- except Putin is probably also

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eiBLXVGfHU

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer, @A123

  5. @Mr. XYZ
    In regards to Austria-Hungary, I feel like the Austrian half of Austria-Hungary lacked a common unifying theme besides centuries of loyalty to the Hapsburg dynasty. What else was there? The Hungarian half of Austria-Hungary at least had centuries of history as an independent kingdom and nation-state. The Austrian half of Austria-Hungary brought good government (less corruption, et cetera) to its subject territories, an effect that is still felt over 100 years later, but what common unifying theme was there for it? Is relying on just the Hapsburg royal family good enough?

    Even the Austrian half of Austria-Hungary looked kind of funky by itself on a map:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Flag-map_of_Cisleithania.svg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Seems like the Austrian half of Austria-Hungary could have easily been (purely hypothetically/theoretically) split between Italy, Germany, and a newly recreated independent Poland in order to create a much nicer map. (Romania and Serbia could get Bukovina and Dalmatia, or they could go to Poland and Italy, respectively.)

  6. Off-topic, but could you see a Russia that avoided the 1917 Bolshevik coup helping to create an alternate version of the EU and NATO (but without the US) in order to help foster economic development and maintain security in Europe in the post-WWI years and decades? With the US descending back into isolationism, if Russia isn’t Communist, I suspect that Russia will play a huge role as being one of Europe’s main post-WWI security guarantors in such a scenario.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    If Trump is elected and UK being out, Europe having their own security institution is quite realistic. The Washington players want to keep NATO with tooth and nail...without NATO the collective appearance of US world escapades would be gone as well as the Washington seat in Europe would be gone.

    The EU was created partly for unloading the US yoke, but EU leadership comprised of weaklings and some still admiring US "chewing gums", especially from country P.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Philip Owen
    @Mr. XYZ

    Absolutley. Russia's absence from the international system in what should have been a period of phenomenal growth (Stalin was an impediment not a driver) was a critical loss to the world economy. Booming Russia>no slump>no Nazis>slower and more ordered breakup of the British Empire (the real greatest geopolitical event of 20th C). Japan and China would probably still have had a go at each other though. Kerenskyist Russia would have supported the Chinese Nationalists.

    That said there might have been a white on white civil war too.

  7. @songbird
    Anyone know any good China podcasts?

    Am struggling to find even what would be considered the official news. Surprising, thought they spent a lot of money on English-language AM radio stations, etc.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Do you listen to any of these? Nothing really catches my fancy.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  8. Iraqi Information Minister reviews
    Encounters by D. W. Pasulka
    St. Martins 2023, 248 pp

    This is an unbounded mess of a book. I found it necessary to read every sentence in it but cannot recommend for anybody to do likewise. Three part review:

    1. Background;
    2. what I liked;
    3. examples of what is horrible, terrible, and ludicrous.

    Background

    Diana Walsh Pasulka is a star of the current UFO scene. She is a professor of religious studies at U. North Carolina-Wilmington. She debuted in her UFO starring role with the publication of her previous book, American Cosmic, in 2019. A little about this previous book. I bought it in 2019 in the first weeks it was available, read it direct when it arrived on my doorstep, and immediately threw it into the garbage bin after finishing the last page.

    This first book purported to be a summary of the woman’s research into UFO’s. If I had known she was going to be a star I would not have thrown it away. I am not going to throw Encounters away. Diane Pasulka is a bright woman. A generous person might think that some day she will attain enough wisdom that she will regret writing these books.

    As for her stardom, she was near the top of the list of featured speakers at the Sol Foundation Symposium in November 2023 in Palo Alto. Stanford University sanctioned UFO studies. That gang uses the term UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena). The foundation also is sponsored by the CIA and black budget money.

    Encounters is not about UFO’s, exactly. It is more like a sequence of nerd-glamour magazine profiles of people she has met up with in her UFO and UFO-adjacent research, which includes consciousness, intelligence, ethnography, cosmology, trauma, metaphysics, Silicon Valley tech startups, psychology, and space travel.

    Is there such a thing as a nerd-glamour magazine? Omni or Wired where the subjects are smoking hot. That type of hypothetical publication. The writing in this book would fit in to there like a hand into a glove. Each subject is fascinating AND brilliant AND amazing AND if you browsed to their personal ad you would drool and pray oh please pick me.

    End_of_background
    _________________________________

    2. What I liked

    Chapter 8, Children of the Invisibles, is good. There is a long transcript of an interview pp. 183-192 with Patricia Turrisi. This interview is excellent. Turrisi is the one person profiled in the book with a last name. She also is the one in the book whose connection to the collection of subjects (consciousness &c) is remote. She is a recently retired professor of philosophy (at UNC-Wilmington) with an unrelated research focus but she shows up because her father worked on top secret aerospace projects and she lived the top secret lifestyle until she left home to go to college. The interview is mostly to explore what it is like to grow up in a house where your dad’s job is top secret. If that is a topic which interests you then reading this interview should be on your list for sure.

    There is information from Tyler which is good. (Tyler is sparse in this book—he was pretty much the main character in American Cosmic. Tyler is not his real name and Pasulka continues to not use his real name anywhere but at this point everybody who has bothered to search knows who he is.)

    When Tyler taught others about his research, he often presented his taxonomy of beings, which is his cosmological worldview. In this hierarchy of beings, God was placed at the top. After that were angels, then off-planet beings. “Off-planet” is the term Tyler used for extraterrestrials. Below that were “certain factions within intelligence communities.” Below this were ordinary people, and then animals.

    p. 180

    If you need a citation then there it is. They are more than you or I. All men may be created equal, but very few get security clearance.

    There is a good quotation from Jacques Vallee (Pasulka has been inside his house).

    He [Vallee] told me that people in intelligence communities are very charming. They meet you. Then they meet your friends. Then they meet your family and they become friendly with your children.

    p.178 **

    End_of_what_I_liked
    ___________________________________

    3. What I didn’t like

    Her epistemology is horrible. Her ontology is terrible. Her theology is ludicrous. I will confine myself to a small fraction of her horrible epistemology.

    It is impossible to do what she claims to be doing and use anonymous or pseudonymous sources or high positioned people who spoke on the condition that they not be named. OK for yellow journalism. Not OK for scholarly or academic work or anything that aspires to such. She trusts her sources whose identity she does not disclose. Does anybody trust her? If you trust her and you presume the trust is transferable you cannot do anything with it unless you are a fool and disregard the risk of going on a wild goose chase with your limited energy and time. This fact of the universe is backwards compatible, and the reverse is true.

    Diane Pasulka is on a wild goose chase. This book is part of her story.

    End_of_what_I_did_not_like
    __________________________________

    The book has no index. The citation format is mixed, only a few glitches.

    OK sorry I just cannot resist to add one more thing. In one of the chapters (number 7, Moongirl) the subject is a glamorous nerd who flies on private jets and is writing a Chatgpt for humpback whales. Sorry two. The UFO’s are quantum computer AI from parallel universes. Also chapter 7.

    ** Jacques Vallee is wrong. All of the people in the intelligence communities are government employees and almost all are beastly dull as typical government employees. The ones he has met are selected and highly trained to be charming to people the agency wants to use.


  9. Another oil refinery hit in Russia, this time close to St. Petersburg, one that was state of the art built with German technology. It’s incredible that Ukrainian drones can travel up to 1,300 kilometers untouched through Russian airspace and hit their targets.

    • Agree: Sher Singh, Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack


    It’s incredible that Ukrainian drones can travel up to 1,300 kilometers untouched through Russian airspace and hit their tar
     
    gets.

    They do not.
    There are only two realistic possibilities:
    1) Russian saboteurs inside Russian gov did it - they take care that war is run pretty inefficiently
    2) UFOs do this, they don't want any great war on Earth now. They also sunk "Moskva" cruiser - it was hit by what is known as "directed energy weapons" not by pretty unknown Ukrainian missiles. Russian sailors who saw that were ordered to be silent as we pretend that there is not powerful third party over Earth and allude to truth only in movies like "Wakanda Forever".

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    A question to you: if Devil offered to help Ukrainians to decisively win with Russia, should Ukrainian take his offer...?
    The Devil price: 66% of Ukrainian souls.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird, @QCIC

    , @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Drones probably launched from Estonia.

  10. Hybrid(?) car just won Dakar, wonder if such technical concept (electric engine/battery/energy converter) has the potential to be applied into mass production? Or maybe it has been done already, myself not auto novelties follower, so am out of the loop with latest technical trends here:

    Audi makes history: for the first time, a low-emission prototype with an electric drive, high-voltage battery and energy converter wins the world’s toughest desert rally with the Audi RS Q e-tron. The Spaniards Carlos Sainz/Lucas Cruz secured Audi’s first victory in the Dakar Rally after around 7,900 kilometers with a lead of 1h 20min. Mattias Ekström/Emil Bergkvist also crossed the finish line.

    “Congratulations to Team Audi Sport on winning the Dakar Rally,” said Gernot Döllner, Chairman of the Board of Management of AUDI AG. “Audi has once again set a milestone in motorsport. Winning the world’s toughest desert rally with an electrified drive is a visible ‘Vorsprung durch Technik’ and points the way to our electric future.” The Audi RS Q e-tron has electric all-wheel drive. The energy supply is ensured by a high-voltage battery and an energy converter that runs on residual fuel-based reFuel, thus saving 60 percent of CO2 emissions compared to conventional fuels.

    https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/press-releases/historic-victory-for-audi-at-the-dakar-rally-15845

  11. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    https://thechinaproject.com/podcasts/

    https://www.csis.org/podcasts/chinapower

    https://carnegieendowment.org/chinaintheworld

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/china-global/id1569469267

    Replies: @songbird

    Do you listen to any of these? Nothing really catches my fancy.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    No, I don't. Sorry that I thus can't help you out more here.

    Have you ever read Peter Zeihan's work on China? Or listened to him talk about China?

    Replies: @songbird

  12. So Trump won big in the IA caucuses and a big Trump victory is anticipated in the NH primaries tomorrow night. DeSantis has already dropped out of the race and endorsed Trump.

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump’s return to become more real to people. Currently Trump is up on Biden by 2 points in the polls. Libs are coping by saying that 2022 showed that polls weren’t reliable but this is untrue: the House popular vote polls in 2022 were correct, in fact they actually slightly underestimated the Republican margin; the problem was only with the state level polls. If Trump does win the popular vote, and I’m confident that he will, then Trump ~should~ win the electoral college but who knows with how screwy things are now.

    Trump is currently dealing with legal battles and he is showing more signs of cognitive decline, but I don’t expect either of those things to make much of a difference. Trump’s negatives with the electorate are already baked in and the truth is that voters don’t actually care about stuff like corruption or even mental fitness.

    Biden, however, faces some very serious headwinds:

    1. Trump has cognitive decline, but Biden outright has senile dementia
    2. There is a crisis at the border that the Biden regime has completely failed to address
    3. The international situation is awful: the US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen. It is reasonable to expect that the US will soon be losing in Syria as well.
    4. The war in Israel is killing Biden with Muslim voters and with Biden’s own left flank. Make no mistake: the Muslim/Arab vote is insignificant (just like the Muslims/Arabs themselves) and most of them will dutifully show up to vote for Biden, same with the non Muslim/Arab Palestine simps, but there are many who will refuse to do so and that could hurt Biden in MN and MI in the event of a close race in those states
    5. The economy sucks

    Point number 1 isn’t really a big deal. Voters knew that Biden was senile when they elected him in 2020, and Biden doesn’t appear to have gotten any worse since then. And like I said above, Trump also is mentally fading.

    Points 2 and 3 by themselves wouldn’t matter if things were going well domestically, but when everything sucks on the home front, the chaos on the border and abroad contributes to the bad vibes. People want the peace and prosperity of the Trump years back.

    Point 4 only matters in the event of a close election, which I simply do not anticipate. I do think that it will cost Biden 1% to 2% of his popular vote margin, but I don’t think it will have any impact on the electoral college.

    Point 5 is the big one. The economy is bad. There are signs that it is finally beginning to improve but I am confident that it is a false dawn and things will shortly get much worse. I expect a financial crisis to begin in the late spring and for there to be a devastating stock market crash in either September or October. There will be a housing crash too.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don’t know what will happen in the electoral college. If Trump does win the electoral college, I don’t know if the libs will accept the result or will instead launch some sort of revolt/secession/coup.

    Death to America

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Greasy William


    The international situation is awful: the US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.
     
    Really? I wasn't ware that the US was directly involved in any war in any of these countries. Sure, Ukraine's summer offensive petered out, but I don't see Russia making any serious inroads to conquering Ukraine, or solidifying its presence anywhere in Ukraine. Look at the photo in my comment #9. Does this look like Russia is winning in any meaningful way? Compare the costs to repair this debacle and its negative impact on Russian energy profits with any possible small gain of a bombed out small town or village in Donbas?....

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @A123
    @Greasy William


    4. The war in Israel is killing Biden with Muslim voters and with Biden’s own left flank.
     
    It is also killing his support with Jewish voters. Sending Blinken to make demands of Netanyahu's was highly offensive and ineffectual: (1)

    Netanyahu Rejects Biden Surrender Plan

    I told President Biden this in our conversation over the weekend. I greatly appreciate the US support for Israel and I also expressed this to the President. However, I will strongly insist on our vital interests. I emphasized to President Biden our determination to achieve all of the goals of the war, and to ensure that Gaza never again constitutes a threat to Israel.

    Therefore, I insist that after we achieve total victory, after we eliminate Hamas, there will no entity in Gaza that finances terrorism, educates for terrorism or sends terrorists.

    Gaza must be demilitarized, under Israel’s full security control.

    I will not compromise on full Israeli security control of all territory west of the Jordan River.
     
    Hamas has not yet accepted the Biden administration’s plan; however, it is close to what Hamas would like to achieve. Were Israel to accept the terms of the agreement, Netanyahu’s government — under pressure from all sides — would likely fall.

     

    As upset as SJW Muslims may be, they have no choice other than the DNC. It is the definitive party of IslamoGloboHomo.

    MAGA believes in Judeo-Christian values. It is a much more natural home for actual practitioners of Judaism. The fastest growing group of Jews in America, the Orthodox, are already a solid GOP voting block.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/01/21/netanyahu-rejects-biden-surrender-plan/

    Replies: @Greasy William

    , @John Johnson
    @Greasy William

    US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    Most of the military aid to Ukraine has been decommissioned equipment. It was already paid for.

    Explain how donating it to Ukraine is losing.

    Hamas is Israel's problem. The US is not involved. Are you suggesting Hamas is winning? They have been wiped out.

    Yemen - Some skinny pirates have slowed shipping lanes to support Hamas. Did you expect them to be killed in 24 hours? Have you seen the size of Yemen? What is the losing part?

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump’s return to become more real to people.

    That is an unknown. Trump could be barred from Federal employment through the documents case.

    Trump's 2 AM rant about presidential immunity shows a lack of confidence in winning over a jury.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don’t know what will happen in the electoral college.

    Why does it matter if Trump wins the popular vote? It's like a participation trophy.

    It's the swing states that matter.

    Replies: @A123, @Greasy William, @Sean

    , @LondonBob
    @Greasy William

    The reliable local Detroit press poll had Trump up eight or so points in Michigan, have to think the Arab vote is playing an not insignificant role there. Saw the poll highlighted on Richard Baris's X account.

    Replies: @Greasy William

  13. @Greasy William
    So Trump won big in the IA caucuses and a big Trump victory is anticipated in the NH primaries tomorrow night. DeSantis has already dropped out of the race and endorsed Trump.

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump's return to become more real to people. Currently Trump is up on Biden by 2 points in the polls. Libs are coping by saying that 2022 showed that polls weren't reliable but this is untrue: the House popular vote polls in 2022 were correct, in fact they actually slightly underestimated the Republican margin; the problem was only with the state level polls. If Trump does win the popular vote, and I'm confident that he will, then Trump ~should~ win the electoral college but who knows with how screwy things are now.

    Trump is currently dealing with legal battles and he is showing more signs of cognitive decline, but I don't expect either of those things to make much of a difference. Trump's negatives with the electorate are already baked in and the truth is that voters don't actually care about stuff like corruption or even mental fitness.

    Biden, however, faces some very serious headwinds:

    1. Trump has cognitive decline, but Biden outright has senile dementia
    2. There is a crisis at the border that the Biden regime has completely failed to address
    3. The international situation is awful: the US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen. It is reasonable to expect that the US will soon be losing in Syria as well.
    4. The war in Israel is killing Biden with Muslim voters and with Biden's own left flank. Make no mistake: the Muslim/Arab vote is insignificant (just like the Muslims/Arabs themselves) and most of them will dutifully show up to vote for Biden, same with the non Muslim/Arab Palestine simps, but there are many who will refuse to do so and that could hurt Biden in MN and MI in the event of a close race in those states
    5. The economy sucks

    Point number 1 isn't really a big deal. Voters knew that Biden was senile when they elected him in 2020, and Biden doesn't appear to have gotten any worse since then. And like I said above, Trump also is mentally fading.

    Points 2 and 3 by themselves wouldn't matter if things were going well domestically, but when everything sucks on the home front, the chaos on the border and abroad contributes to the bad vibes. People want the peace and prosperity of the Trump years back.

    Point 4 only matters in the event of a close election, which I simply do not anticipate. I do think that it will cost Biden 1% to 2% of his popular vote margin, but I don't think it will have any impact on the electoral college.

    Point 5 is the big one. The economy is bad. There are signs that it is finally beginning to improve but I am confident that it is a false dawn and things will shortly get much worse. I expect a financial crisis to begin in the late spring and for there to be a devastating stock market crash in either September or October. There will be a housing crash too.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don't know what will happen in the electoral college. If Trump does win the electoral college, I don't know if the libs will accept the result or will instead launch some sort of revolt/secession/coup.

    Death to America

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @John Johnson, @LondonBob

    The international situation is awful: the US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    Really? I wasn’t ware that the US was directly involved in any war in any of these countries. Sure, Ukraine’s summer offensive petered out, but I don’t see Russia making any serious inroads to conquering Ukraine, or solidifying its presence anywhere in Ukraine. Look at the photo in my comment #9. Does this look like Russia is winning in any meaningful way? Compare the costs to repair this debacle and its negative impact on Russian energy profits with any possible small gain of a bombed out small town or village in Donbas?….

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    OK, we must remember that a lot of the gloom is aimed at getting Congress to "give us the f******* money" as Bob Geldof puts it, but all the same... for a country that's not directly involved, it looks as if Western Ukraine (we must remember all the Ukrainians fighting against Zelensky) is supplying warm bodies and the US is supplying everything else.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/incredibly-stark-biden-aides-give-lawmakers-grim-assessment-ukraine-ai-rcna134792


    WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden’s top aides bluntly told lawmakers in a private meeting on Wednesday that if Congress fails to authorize additional military aid for Ukraine in the coming days, Russia could win the war in a matter of weeks — months at best, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

    National security adviser Jake Sullivan and the Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines told the lawmakers that Ukraine will run out of certain air defense and artillery capabilities in the coming weeks, according to the people familiar with the meeting.

    The grim assessment, which one White House official described as “incredibly stark,” was delivered as the future of Ukraine aid has never been more uncertain. It also comes as White House officials are increasingly alarmed at the prospect of Biden failing to follow through with his promise that the U.S. will be there for Kyiv “as long as it takes.”

    In Wednesday’s meeting at the White House, Sullivan and Haines gave the top congressional leaders a classified time frame for when Ukraine’s key military resources will be significantly depleted, and a detailed assessment of the current dynamics on the battlefield, the two people familiar with the meeting said.
     

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  14. @Mr. Hack
    https://gdb.voanews.com/01000000-c0a8-0242-e56d-08dc19073f4c_w1023_r1_s.jpg

    Another oil refinery hit in Russia, this time close to St. Petersburg, one that was state of the art built with German technology. It's incredible that Ukrainian drones can travel up to 1,300 kilometers untouched through Russian airspace and hit their targets.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

    It’s incredible that Ukrainian drones can travel up to 1,300 kilometers untouched through Russian airspace and hit their tar

    gets.

    They do not.
    There are only two realistic possibilities:
    1) Russian saboteurs inside Russian gov did it – they take care that war is run pretty inefficiently
    2) UFOs do this, they don’t want any great war on Earth now. They also sunk “Moskva” cruiser – it was hit by what is known as “directed energy weapons” not by pretty unknown Ukrainian missiles. Russian sailors who saw that were ordered to be silent as we pretend that there is not powerful third party over Earth and allude to truth only in movies like “Wakanda Forever”.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  15. @Mr. Hack
    https://gdb.voanews.com/01000000-c0a8-0242-e56d-08dc19073f4c_w1023_r1_s.jpg

    Another oil refinery hit in Russia, this time close to St. Petersburg, one that was state of the art built with German technology. It's incredible that Ukrainian drones can travel up to 1,300 kilometers untouched through Russian airspace and hit their targets.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

    A question to you: if Devil offered to help Ukrainians to decisively win with Russia, should Ukrainian take his offer…?
    The Devil price: 66% of Ukrainian souls.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Why pose such a ridiculous question to me, when anybody with eyes can see how Ukrainians react to the evil deeds of a real life devil like Putler? How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putler's Russia were to invade and cross Poland's borders and kill and savage everything in sight?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Derer

    , @songbird
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Am sure that Mr. Hack only counts in petals from the flower of Ukrainian youth. (or, in other words, lazy gen Y-ers and Z-ers that need to be forcefully conscripted to show up to work)😉

    , @QCIC
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Hack will probably take your 66% deal to LOSE to Russia. The fight is all that matters and the more misguided and foolish the better!

  16. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    A question to you: if Devil offered to help Ukrainians to decisively win with Russia, should Ukrainian take his offer...?
    The Devil price: 66% of Ukrainian souls.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird, @QCIC

    Why pose such a ridiculous question to me, when anybody with eyes can see how Ukrainians react to the evil deeds of a real life devil like Putler? How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putler’s Russia were to invade and cross Poland’s borders and kill and savage everything in sight?

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack


    Why pose such a ridiculous question to me, when anybody with eyes can see how Ukrainians react to the evil deeds of a real life devil like Putler?
     
    I sometimes imagine that Bandera made a deal with Devil. All those ax-murders were pretty ritualistic. Hard to believe that Banderites were so low on ammunition, that they had to use axes.

    How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putler’s Russia were to invade and cross Poland’s borders and kill and savage everything in sight?
     
    Well, personally I am far away from the sight of Putin, as I am close to Czech border. Maybe I would cross it (FYI, I am officially unfit for military service).BTW, why aren't you in Ukraine fighting?
    Poles would fight and pray. Poland had great tradition of "entrusting Poland to God" (zawierzyć Polskę Bogu), sometimes even to Holy Mary (zawierzyć Polskę Maryi), which I think is certain devaluation of Poland, since Mary was just a human being and not Polish at all. Maybe we would choose the Saint John Paul II this time ;)
    Occultism is pretty weak in Poland so no chance of choosing Devil here.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    , @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putin’s Russia were to invade
     
    People do not give serious answer to wild hallucination, especially when "the great majority of Poles" is not preoccupied with it. Gossips start from hallucination or dream.
  17. @Mr. Hack
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Why pose such a ridiculous question to me, when anybody with eyes can see how Ukrainians react to the evil deeds of a real life devil like Putler? How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putler's Russia were to invade and cross Poland's borders and kill and savage everything in sight?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Derer

    Why pose such a ridiculous question to me, when anybody with eyes can see how Ukrainians react to the evil deeds of a real life devil like Putler?

    I sometimes imagine that Bandera made a deal with Devil. All those ax-murders were pretty ritualistic. Hard to believe that Banderites were so low on ammunition, that they had to use axes.

    How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putler’s Russia were to invade and cross Poland’s borders and kill and savage everything in sight?

    Well, personally I am far away from the sight of Putin, as I am close to Czech border. Maybe I would cross it (FYI, I am officially unfit for military service).BTW, why aren’t you in Ukraine fighting?
    Poles would fight and pray. Poland had great tradition of “entrusting Poland to God” (zawierzyć Polskę Bogu), sometimes even to Holy Mary (zawierzyć Polskę Maryi), which I think is certain devaluation of Poland, since Mary was just a human being and not Polish at all. Maybe we would choose the Saint John Paul II this time 😉
    Occultism is pretty weak in Poland so no chance of choosing Devil here.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Another Polish Perspective


    ...Occultism is pretty weak in Poland so no chance of choosing Devil here.
     
    Not in our experience, Poles seem very superstitious.

    But the devil is not about the occult, he is about destruction. The universal morality is simple: creation is good and destruction is evil.

    Poles are frantic and prone to trigger destruction. Ukies with their axe-murdering manias are undisciplined. The Western sneaky attempts to prolong the good times with mayhem and wars are de facto an embrace of satanism.

    The struggle between creation and destruction is eternal, it is never resolved - but the devil never wins. I am not sure why, maybe there really is inner harmony in the universe: the destruction eventually ceases but the creation doesn't.

    The only strategic question in a war is: what side stands for creation and order and what side for destruction? It can be deceptively hard to see it clearly, the devil's strength is in confusing things - but over time it becomes clear. There are only two sides in a war.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Another Polish Perspective


    I sometimes imagine that Bandera made a deal with Devil. All those ax-murders were pretty ritualistic. Hard to believe that Banderites were so low on ammunition, that they had to use axes
     
    .

    I don't condone these actions, and actually have enough Polish blood in my ancestry to have qualified for annihilation by these fanatics if they had implemented their draconian blood laws as to ethnicity had I lived in Ukraine at that time, but you have to wonder if their wasn't some terrible angst and revenge that was expressed for real and imagined wrongs perpetrated by the Polish colonists in these Ukrainian areas, that had been brewing for a very long time.

    Ukrainians venerate both Our Lady and the Archangel Michael as protectors of Ukraine and its armed forces. I pray to both saints and request that they help Ukraine out and provide her with a just and lasting peace. I'm old enough to be your father and prefer my fighting at home (born in the USA) through my computer.

    Replies: @Beckow

  18. @Greasy William
    So Trump won big in the IA caucuses and a big Trump victory is anticipated in the NH primaries tomorrow night. DeSantis has already dropped out of the race and endorsed Trump.

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump's return to become more real to people. Currently Trump is up on Biden by 2 points in the polls. Libs are coping by saying that 2022 showed that polls weren't reliable but this is untrue: the House popular vote polls in 2022 were correct, in fact they actually slightly underestimated the Republican margin; the problem was only with the state level polls. If Trump does win the popular vote, and I'm confident that he will, then Trump ~should~ win the electoral college but who knows with how screwy things are now.

    Trump is currently dealing with legal battles and he is showing more signs of cognitive decline, but I don't expect either of those things to make much of a difference. Trump's negatives with the electorate are already baked in and the truth is that voters don't actually care about stuff like corruption or even mental fitness.

    Biden, however, faces some very serious headwinds:

    1. Trump has cognitive decline, but Biden outright has senile dementia
    2. There is a crisis at the border that the Biden regime has completely failed to address
    3. The international situation is awful: the US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen. It is reasonable to expect that the US will soon be losing in Syria as well.
    4. The war in Israel is killing Biden with Muslim voters and with Biden's own left flank. Make no mistake: the Muslim/Arab vote is insignificant (just like the Muslims/Arabs themselves) and most of them will dutifully show up to vote for Biden, same with the non Muslim/Arab Palestine simps, but there are many who will refuse to do so and that could hurt Biden in MN and MI in the event of a close race in those states
    5. The economy sucks

    Point number 1 isn't really a big deal. Voters knew that Biden was senile when they elected him in 2020, and Biden doesn't appear to have gotten any worse since then. And like I said above, Trump also is mentally fading.

    Points 2 and 3 by themselves wouldn't matter if things were going well domestically, but when everything sucks on the home front, the chaos on the border and abroad contributes to the bad vibes. People want the peace and prosperity of the Trump years back.

    Point 4 only matters in the event of a close election, which I simply do not anticipate. I do think that it will cost Biden 1% to 2% of his popular vote margin, but I don't think it will have any impact on the electoral college.

    Point 5 is the big one. The economy is bad. There are signs that it is finally beginning to improve but I am confident that it is a false dawn and things will shortly get much worse. I expect a financial crisis to begin in the late spring and for there to be a devastating stock market crash in either September or October. There will be a housing crash too.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don't know what will happen in the electoral college. If Trump does win the electoral college, I don't know if the libs will accept the result or will instead launch some sort of revolt/secession/coup.

    Death to America

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @John Johnson, @LondonBob

    4. The war in Israel is killing Biden with Muslim voters and with Biden’s own left flank.

    It is also killing his support with Jewish voters. Sending Blinken to make demands of Netanyahu’s was highly offensive and ineffectual: (1)

    Netanyahu Rejects Biden Surrender Plan

    I told President Biden this in our conversation over the weekend. I greatly appreciate the US support for Israel and I also expressed this to the President. However, I will strongly insist on our vital interests. I emphasized to President Biden our determination to achieve all of the goals of the war, and to ensure that Gaza never again constitutes a threat to Israel.

    Therefore, I insist that after we achieve total victory, after we eliminate Hamas, there will no entity in Gaza that finances terrorism, educates for terrorism or sends terrorists.

    Gaza must be demilitarized, under Israel’s full security control.

    I will not compromise on full Israeli security control of all territory west of the Jordan River.

    Hamas has not yet accepted the Biden administration’s plan; however, it is close to what Hamas would like to achieve. Were Israel to accept the terms of the agreement, Netanyahu’s government — under pressure from all sides — would likely fall.

    As upset as SJW Muslims may be, they have no choice other than the DNC. It is the definitive party of IslamoGloboHomo.

    MAGA believes in Judeo-Christian values. It is a much more natural home for actual practitioners of Judaism. The fastest growing group of Jews in America, the Orthodox, are already a solid GOP voting block.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/01/21/netanyahu-rejects-biden-surrender-plan/

    • Replies: @Greasy William
    @A123

    Biden is trying to thread the needle but it isn't going to work.

    As for losing Jewish voters, I doubt it. The Jews who vote D are died in the wool #Resistance libtards (I live in a family full of them, they will crawl over broken glass to vote for Biden) and the Jewish vote doesn't matter anyway

  19. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    A question to you: if Devil offered to help Ukrainians to decisively win with Russia, should Ukrainian take his offer...?
    The Devil price: 66% of Ukrainian souls.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird, @QCIC

    Am sure that Mr. Hack only counts in petals from the flower of Ukrainian youth. (or, in other words, lazy gen Y-ers and Z-ers that need to be forcefully conscripted to show up to work)😉

  20. There seems to be a pattern of Ukrainians attacking civilian targets, especially in Donbas, after suffering some setback on the battlefield. Perhaps it’s all just a coincidence, who knows, but there have been multiple instances and it’s very difficult to imagine what military goal could be achieved by directing an artillery volley to a market in Donetsk at peak shopping hours. I’m not aware that they’ve even tried explaining it this time. Not that any explanation by these inveterate liars would have any credibility but even the NYT, the BBC and ISW, who strangely decided to report on the carnage, failed to get any Ukrainian version of the events.

    Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was an unprecedented violation of international law in Europe and I can understand why some people may legitimately think that helping Ukraine militarily was necessary. But the reality is that arming Ukraine, especially with sophisticated weapons, makes us less secure, not more. It is just a given that they are going to use them to kill civilians, as the 8 years of the Donbas conflict show. Apparently, yesterday’s attack (like the attack on the center of Belgorod some weeks ago) was also carried out using NATO ordnance.

    For those of us who have been paying some attention to the Ukraine conflict before it evolved into this all-out war it is crystal clear that Putin never had any intention of marching on Warsaw, or Berlin, or those fantasies that the Nikki parrots keep repeating. However, I can perfectly imagine a revengeful Russia coming out of this war with the intention of settling scores with the countries that have helped Ukraine commit these actions. When you kill their women and children people tend to forget who started what and only deep hatred ensues, like we see in Palestine. Having Russian innocent blood on our hands is a very dumb position to get ourselves into, regardless of whether one thinks that we should help Ukraine defeat Russia or not.

    Judging by the comments I see on Russian telegram channels, I see a future of deep resentment against Western countries in that nuclear-armed country. If someone more audacious than Putin comes to power I wouldn’t discard Nikki’s crazy prophecies actually becoming true, especially if the Russians finally manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Ukraine and recover their confidence in their military. It’s getting urgent to have our diplomats justify their generous salaries and find a peace agreement in Ukraine rather than flying to those silly get-togethers in Davos and the climate summits.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel

    The point of wishful prophecies is to make them happen. We can get to nukes if people scare themselves with what Russia supposedly really wants.

    Many in Kiev who are already compromised want to bloody as many hands as possible so the consequences are chaotic and unclear....a downward spiral. But the bottom line is that a few hundred thousand Ukies have perished or ruined their lives for somebody's plan to have Ukraine in Nato. Among the most stupid sacrificial wars ever fought. This will be incomprehensible to look back at. It was so easy to avoid by simply being normal.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    I see a future of deep resentment against Western countries in that nuclear-armed country.
     
    The future is now. From the viewpoint of >90% of Russian residents the credibility of the West is the same as the credibility of Western puppets in Kiev, exactly zero.

    It’s getting urgent to have our diplomats justify their generous salaries and find a peace agreement in Ukraine
     
    Too late for that. By their barbarous attacks on civilians the Ukies convinced the great majority of Russians that unconditional capitulation of current Ukie regime and its subsequent elimination is the only satisfactory outcome that ensures Russian security.

    Like I said before, the second Putin’s offer is always worse for the opponent than the first, whereas his third offer is usually an unconditional capitulation of the opponent. Minsk was the first offer, in 2022 he made the second offer. As the first was sabotaged and the second was rejected, now is the time for the third.

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    There seems to be a pattern of Ukrainians attacking civilian targets, especially in Donbas, after suffering some setback on the battlefield
     
    Have there been significant setbacks on the battlefield?

    it’s very difficult to imagine what military goal could be achieved by directing an artillery volley to a market in Donetsk at peak shopping hours.

     

    And right before Russia was going to the security council. How inconvenient.

    I’m not aware that they’ve even tried explaining it this time
     
    Not sure what Ukrainian authorities have been saying, but fwiw (I do not endorse any story about this) pro-Ukrainians are claiming that the Russians did it as a false flag attack. Supposedly the first Russian story was that the shells used were 122 mm mortars which are supposedly beyond the range of NATO mortars of that type (the front is 15 km from central Donetsk). The Russians then changed their story and stated that the artillery were 152 and 155. This would be within range, but video supposedly shows that the firing and hit were too close together, so the shells could not have travelled so far and must have been fired from a closer position in Russian-held territory (see after “more”).

    I don’t endorse that, but is is not impossible. Russia has shown strong disregard for Donbas lives, they are expendable for the interests of the Russian state.

    the reality is that arming Ukraine, especially with sophisticated weapons, makes us less secure, not more
     
    Allowing Russia to break the stalemate at the front and to take the fight to Ukraine’s cities makes us more secure? Do you think we would be more secure if Russia chose to go for the Baltics next?

    It is just a given that they are going to use them to kill civilians

     

    If that were the goal, don’t you think far more civilians would have been killed? Looks like Ukraine has mostly been hitting military targets such as ships, military factories and radars, or the oil and gas export infrastructure that funds Russia’s war effort. There has not been a pattern of mass bombardment of purely civilian, or residential areas.

    Apparently, yesterday’s attack (like the attack on the center of Belgorod some weeks ago) was also carried out using NATO ordnance.
     
    And do you know if the civilian destruction in Belgorod wasn’t caused by Russian air defense missiles coming down in civilian areas, or Ukrainian rockets being taken down before they reached their targets (this is how many Ukrainian civilians died)? There was video of at least one Russian missile failing and coming down over Belgorod.

    Belgorod is from where Russians have been shelling Kharkiv. Do you think Ukrainians don’t have the right to shoot back at all?

    Having Russian innocent blood on our hands
     
    Sadly, any fighting back will involve loss of civilian life. Many French people were killed during the liberation of France. Are you suggesting Ukraine not fight back at all? That Russia bomb Ukraine from Belgorod and other areas with no answer?

    If someone more audacious than Putin comes to power I wouldn’t discard Nikki’s crazy prophecies actually becoming true, especially if the Russians finally manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Ukraine and recover their confidence in their military
     
    In which case it is better for Russia to be smaller and weaker than for it to be stronger, and thus it would be better to give Ukraine what it needs to prevent Russia from being larger.

    I doubt Russia will win, but if it were to conquer all or most of Ukraine there is at least a 30% chance that Russia would next go after the Baltics. They are too close to Russia’s second city, they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances), and they separate Russian Kaliningrad from Belarus and Russia. A successful takeover might break NATO, if NATO doesn’t respond robustly. Russia’s government has already declared for the Soviet borders (optimistically, as some sort of negotiation position, like it’s recent claim the the Alaska sale was illegal, but who knows?).

    If the Baltics are attacked, US might not do much but Poland almost certainly would. And then US and Germany would be more tempted to get involved. I suspect I know what your position would be - neither Poland nor the Baltics are worth a possible nuclear holocaust, we need to keep backing off. But I doubt it will go that way.

    The way to stop a possible cascade of such events and prevent a much larger mess would be to keep the war in Ukraine and end it there, by giving Ukraine what it needs. No American lives used or lost, no wider war.



    https://twitter.com/malcontentmentt/status/1749311298603815324?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

  21. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack


    Why pose such a ridiculous question to me, when anybody with eyes can see how Ukrainians react to the evil deeds of a real life devil like Putler?
     
    I sometimes imagine that Bandera made a deal with Devil. All those ax-murders were pretty ritualistic. Hard to believe that Banderites were so low on ammunition, that they had to use axes.

    How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putler’s Russia were to invade and cross Poland’s borders and kill and savage everything in sight?
     
    Well, personally I am far away from the sight of Putin, as I am close to Czech border. Maybe I would cross it (FYI, I am officially unfit for military service).BTW, why aren't you in Ukraine fighting?
    Poles would fight and pray. Poland had great tradition of "entrusting Poland to God" (zawierzyć Polskę Bogu), sometimes even to Holy Mary (zawierzyć Polskę Maryi), which I think is certain devaluation of Poland, since Mary was just a human being and not Polish at all. Maybe we would choose the Saint John Paul II this time ;)
    Occultism is pretty weak in Poland so no chance of choosing Devil here.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    …Occultism is pretty weak in Poland so no chance of choosing Devil here.

    Not in our experience, Poles seem very superstitious.

    But the devil is not about the occult, he is about destruction. The universal morality is simple: creation is good and destruction is evil.

    Poles are frantic and prone to trigger destruction. Ukies with their axe-murdering manias are undisciplined. The Western sneaky attempts to prolong the good times with mayhem and wars are de facto an embrace of satanism.

    The struggle between creation and destruction is eternal, it is never resolved – but the devil never wins. I am not sure why, maybe there really is inner harmony in the universe: the destruction eventually ceases but the creation doesn’t.

    The only strategic question in a war is: what side stands for creation and order and what side for destruction? It can be deceptively hard to see it clearly, the devil’s strength is in confusing things – but over time it becomes clear. There are only two sides in a war.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Beckow

    Nice comment.

    Nuclear and biological weapons are the Devil's toys. If they are used seriously, maybe the devil finally 'wins' with the destruction of all human activity.

  22. @Mr. Hack
    https://gdb.voanews.com/01000000-c0a8-0242-e56d-08dc19073f4c_w1023_r1_s.jpg

    Another oil refinery hit in Russia, this time close to St. Petersburg, one that was state of the art built with German technology. It's incredible that Ukrainian drones can travel up to 1,300 kilometers untouched through Russian airspace and hit their targets.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective, @QCIC

    Drones probably launched from Estonia.

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  23. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    A question to you: if Devil offered to help Ukrainians to decisively win with Russia, should Ukrainian take his offer...?
    The Devil price: 66% of Ukrainian souls.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird, @QCIC

    Hack will probably take your 66% deal to LOSE to Russia. The fight is all that matters and the more misguided and foolish the better!

  24. @Beckow
    @Another Polish Perspective


    ...Occultism is pretty weak in Poland so no chance of choosing Devil here.
     
    Not in our experience, Poles seem very superstitious.

    But the devil is not about the occult, he is about destruction. The universal morality is simple: creation is good and destruction is evil.

    Poles are frantic and prone to trigger destruction. Ukies with their axe-murdering manias are undisciplined. The Western sneaky attempts to prolong the good times with mayhem and wars are de facto an embrace of satanism.

    The struggle between creation and destruction is eternal, it is never resolved - but the devil never wins. I am not sure why, maybe there really is inner harmony in the universe: the destruction eventually ceases but the creation doesn't.

    The only strategic question in a war is: what side stands for creation and order and what side for destruction? It can be deceptively hard to see it clearly, the devil's strength is in confusing things - but over time it becomes clear. There are only two sides in a war.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Nice comment.

    Nuclear and biological weapons are the Devil’s toys. If they are used seriously, maybe the devil finally ‘wins’ with the destruction of all human activity.

  25. @A123
    @Greasy William


    4. The war in Israel is killing Biden with Muslim voters and with Biden’s own left flank.
     
    It is also killing his support with Jewish voters. Sending Blinken to make demands of Netanyahu's was highly offensive and ineffectual: (1)

    Netanyahu Rejects Biden Surrender Plan

    I told President Biden this in our conversation over the weekend. I greatly appreciate the US support for Israel and I also expressed this to the President. However, I will strongly insist on our vital interests. I emphasized to President Biden our determination to achieve all of the goals of the war, and to ensure that Gaza never again constitutes a threat to Israel.

    Therefore, I insist that after we achieve total victory, after we eliminate Hamas, there will no entity in Gaza that finances terrorism, educates for terrorism or sends terrorists.

    Gaza must be demilitarized, under Israel’s full security control.

    I will not compromise on full Israeli security control of all territory west of the Jordan River.
     
    Hamas has not yet accepted the Biden administration’s plan; however, it is close to what Hamas would like to achieve. Were Israel to accept the terms of the agreement, Netanyahu’s government — under pressure from all sides — would likely fall.

     

    As upset as SJW Muslims may be, they have no choice other than the DNC. It is the definitive party of IslamoGloboHomo.

    MAGA believes in Judeo-Christian values. It is a much more natural home for actual practitioners of Judaism. The fastest growing group of Jews in America, the Orthodox, are already a solid GOP voting block.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/01/21/netanyahu-rejects-biden-surrender-plan/

    Replies: @Greasy William

    Biden is trying to thread the needle but it isn’t going to work.

    As for losing Jewish voters, I doubt it. The Jews who vote D are died in the wool #Resistance libtards (I live in a family full of them, they will crawl over broken glass to vote for Biden) and the Jewish vote doesn’t matter anyway

  26. @Mikel
    There seems to be a pattern of Ukrainians attacking civilian targets, especially in Donbas, after suffering some setback on the battlefield. Perhaps it's all just a coincidence, who knows, but there have been multiple instances and it's very difficult to imagine what military goal could be achieved by directing an artillery volley to a market in Donetsk at peak shopping hours. I'm not aware that they've even tried explaining it this time. Not that any explanation by these inveterate liars would have any credibility but even the NYT, the BBC and ISW, who strangely decided to report on the carnage, failed to get any Ukrainian version of the events.

    Putin's invasion of Ukraine was an unprecedented violation of international law in Europe and I can understand why some people may legitimately think that helping Ukraine militarily was necessary. But the reality is that arming Ukraine, especially with sophisticated weapons, makes us less secure, not more. It is just a given that they are going to use them to kill civilians, as the 8 years of the Donbas conflict show. Apparently, yesterday's attack (like the attack on the center of Belgorod some weeks ago) was also carried out using NATO ordnance.

    For those of us who have been paying some attention to the Ukraine conflict before it evolved into this all-out war it is crystal clear that Putin never had any intention of marching on Warsaw, or Berlin, or those fantasies that the Nikki parrots keep repeating. However, I can perfectly imagine a revengeful Russia coming out of this war with the intention of settling scores with the countries that have helped Ukraine commit these actions. When you kill their women and children people tend to forget who started what and only deep hatred ensues, like we see in Palestine. Having Russian innocent blood on our hands is a very dumb position to get ourselves into, regardless of whether one thinks that we should help Ukraine defeat Russia or not.

    Judging by the comments I see on Russian telegram channels, I see a future of deep resentment against Western countries in that nuclear-armed country. If someone more audacious than Putin comes to power I wouldn't discard Nikki's crazy prophecies actually becoming true, especially if the Russians finally manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Ukraine and recover their confidence in their military. It's getting urgent to have our diplomats justify their generous salaries and find a peace agreement in Ukraine rather than flying to those silly get-togethers in Davos and the climate summits.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN, @AP

    The point of wishful prophecies is to make them happen. We can get to nukes if people scare themselves with what Russia supposedly really wants.

    Many in Kiev who are already compromised want to bloody as many hands as possible so the consequences are chaotic and unclear….a downward spiral. But the bottom line is that a few hundred thousand Ukies have perished or ruined their lives for somebody’s plan to have Ukraine in Nato. Among the most stupid sacrificial wars ever fought. This will be incomprehensible to look back at. It was so easy to avoid by simply being normal.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Beckow

    It's like giving air to ground missiles to Israel and expecting that they will not use them to kill civilians. Are the Israelis even capable of refraining from killing civilians?

    Ukraine may actually be worse in some aspects. The Israelis seem to have a solid command structure but I don't believe that the order to bomb an open market in Donetsk came from Zaluzhny or Zelensky. It's easier to imagine that it was someone much further down who took the initiative. Because he can and because he knows that there will be no consequences, like there weren't in all the previous years since Maidan.

    The other difference between both countries is that the Israelis don't try to insult our intelligence time and again saying that it's not them, it's the Palestinians who are bombing themselves. AP couldn't help himself and found one of those fairy tales for dimwits. It's all so deja vu.

    In the midst of all this insanity I found the ISW report of the attack almost funny. The Institute for the Study of War, an American organization constantly used by all the respectable media as their main source of information on the war in Ukraine, published a very long daily report of how the hostilities went in all the different fronts and only at the very end they mentioned the attack on the Donetsk market under the heading "Russian Information Operations and Narratives". Apparently, they only found it worth mentioning because the Russians were devious enough to use it as way to justify Russia’s need to achieve its military objectives in Ukraine. Of course, once they had mentioned the subject they hastened to clarify that they "cannot independently confirm the actors behind the strike".

    Was late-stage Communism this mendacious? I think the Western MSM has already surpassed those levels and we're headed towards Stalinist proportions of media distortion. But I can't say for sure, my first trip to Eastern Europe was right after the fall of the Iron Curtain, around 1989 or 1990.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @AP

  27. @Mikel
    There seems to be a pattern of Ukrainians attacking civilian targets, especially in Donbas, after suffering some setback on the battlefield. Perhaps it's all just a coincidence, who knows, but there have been multiple instances and it's very difficult to imagine what military goal could be achieved by directing an artillery volley to a market in Donetsk at peak shopping hours. I'm not aware that they've even tried explaining it this time. Not that any explanation by these inveterate liars would have any credibility but even the NYT, the BBC and ISW, who strangely decided to report on the carnage, failed to get any Ukrainian version of the events.

    Putin's invasion of Ukraine was an unprecedented violation of international law in Europe and I can understand why some people may legitimately think that helping Ukraine militarily was necessary. But the reality is that arming Ukraine, especially with sophisticated weapons, makes us less secure, not more. It is just a given that they are going to use them to kill civilians, as the 8 years of the Donbas conflict show. Apparently, yesterday's attack (like the attack on the center of Belgorod some weeks ago) was also carried out using NATO ordnance.

    For those of us who have been paying some attention to the Ukraine conflict before it evolved into this all-out war it is crystal clear that Putin never had any intention of marching on Warsaw, or Berlin, or those fantasies that the Nikki parrots keep repeating. However, I can perfectly imagine a revengeful Russia coming out of this war with the intention of settling scores with the countries that have helped Ukraine commit these actions. When you kill their women and children people tend to forget who started what and only deep hatred ensues, like we see in Palestine. Having Russian innocent blood on our hands is a very dumb position to get ourselves into, regardless of whether one thinks that we should help Ukraine defeat Russia or not.

    Judging by the comments I see on Russian telegram channels, I see a future of deep resentment against Western countries in that nuclear-armed country. If someone more audacious than Putin comes to power I wouldn't discard Nikki's crazy prophecies actually becoming true, especially if the Russians finally manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Ukraine and recover their confidence in their military. It's getting urgent to have our diplomats justify their generous salaries and find a peace agreement in Ukraine rather than flying to those silly get-togethers in Davos and the climate summits.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN, @AP

    I see a future of deep resentment against Western countries in that nuclear-armed country.

    The future is now. From the viewpoint of >90% of Russian residents the credibility of the West is the same as the credibility of Western puppets in Kiev, exactly zero.

    It’s getting urgent to have our diplomats justify their generous salaries and find a peace agreement in Ukraine

    Too late for that. By their barbarous attacks on civilians the Ukies convinced the great majority of Russians that unconditional capitulation of current Ukie regime and its subsequent elimination is the only satisfactory outcome that ensures Russian security.

    Like I said before, the second Putin’s offer is always worse for the opponent than the first, whereas his third offer is usually an unconditional capitulation of the opponent. Minsk was the first offer, in 2022 he made the second offer. As the first was sabotaged and the second was rejected, now is the time for the third.

  28. @Mr. Hack
    @Greasy William


    The international situation is awful: the US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.
     
    Really? I wasn't ware that the US was directly involved in any war in any of these countries. Sure, Ukraine's summer offensive petered out, but I don't see Russia making any serious inroads to conquering Ukraine, or solidifying its presence anywhere in Ukraine. Look at the photo in my comment #9. Does this look like Russia is winning in any meaningful way? Compare the costs to repair this debacle and its negative impact on Russian energy profits with any possible small gain of a bombed out small town or village in Donbas?....

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    OK, we must remember that a lot of the gloom is aimed at getting Congress to “give us the f******* money” as Bob Geldof puts it, but all the same… for a country that’s not directly involved, it looks as if Western Ukraine (we must remember all the Ukrainians fighting against Zelensky) is supplying warm bodies and the US is supplying everything else.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/incredibly-stark-biden-aides-give-lawmakers-grim-assessment-ukraine-ai-rcna134792

    WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden’s top aides bluntly told lawmakers in a private meeting on Wednesday that if Congress fails to authorize additional military aid for Ukraine in the coming days, Russia could win the war in a matter of weeks — months at best, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

    National security adviser Jake Sullivan and the Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines told the lawmakers that Ukraine will run out of certain air defense and artillery capabilities in the coming weeks, according to the people familiar with the meeting.

    The grim assessment, which one White House official described as “incredibly stark,” was delivered as the future of Ukraine aid has never been more uncertain. It also comes as White House officials are increasingly alarmed at the prospect of Biden failing to follow through with his promise that the U.S. will be there for Kyiv “as long as it takes.”

    In Wednesday’s meeting at the White House, Sullivan and Haines gave the top congressional leaders a classified time frame for when Ukraine’s key military resources will be significantly depleted, and a detailed assessment of the current dynamics on the battlefield, the two people familiar with the meeting said.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon


    it looks as if Western Ukraine (we must remember all the Ukrainians fighting against Zelensky) is supplying warm bodies and the US is supplying everything else.
     
    It's my understanding that very little of the home-grown talent that decided to fight with the insurrectionists are still around. The vast army of those fighting on Moscow's side are Russians from all corners of Russia and Chechnya.

    Besides, which role would you rather play, the fat entrepreneur making large profits off of arms sales, or the Ukrainian soldier freezing his balls inside of a foxhole?
  29. Pentagon has reportedly influenced an estimated 10,000 scripts, when you count TV episodes. What is the CIA count?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Maybe you should count the number of scripts which are not government influenced.

    It still fries my brain to consider that Mnuchin is a movie producer.

  30. @Greasy William
    So Trump won big in the IA caucuses and a big Trump victory is anticipated in the NH primaries tomorrow night. DeSantis has already dropped out of the race and endorsed Trump.

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump's return to become more real to people. Currently Trump is up on Biden by 2 points in the polls. Libs are coping by saying that 2022 showed that polls weren't reliable but this is untrue: the House popular vote polls in 2022 were correct, in fact they actually slightly underestimated the Republican margin; the problem was only with the state level polls. If Trump does win the popular vote, and I'm confident that he will, then Trump ~should~ win the electoral college but who knows with how screwy things are now.

    Trump is currently dealing with legal battles and he is showing more signs of cognitive decline, but I don't expect either of those things to make much of a difference. Trump's negatives with the electorate are already baked in and the truth is that voters don't actually care about stuff like corruption or even mental fitness.

    Biden, however, faces some very serious headwinds:

    1. Trump has cognitive decline, but Biden outright has senile dementia
    2. There is a crisis at the border that the Biden regime has completely failed to address
    3. The international situation is awful: the US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen. It is reasonable to expect that the US will soon be losing in Syria as well.
    4. The war in Israel is killing Biden with Muslim voters and with Biden's own left flank. Make no mistake: the Muslim/Arab vote is insignificant (just like the Muslims/Arabs themselves) and most of them will dutifully show up to vote for Biden, same with the non Muslim/Arab Palestine simps, but there are many who will refuse to do so and that could hurt Biden in MN and MI in the event of a close race in those states
    5. The economy sucks

    Point number 1 isn't really a big deal. Voters knew that Biden was senile when they elected him in 2020, and Biden doesn't appear to have gotten any worse since then. And like I said above, Trump also is mentally fading.

    Points 2 and 3 by themselves wouldn't matter if things were going well domestically, but when everything sucks on the home front, the chaos on the border and abroad contributes to the bad vibes. People want the peace and prosperity of the Trump years back.

    Point 4 only matters in the event of a close election, which I simply do not anticipate. I do think that it will cost Biden 1% to 2% of his popular vote margin, but I don't think it will have any impact on the electoral college.

    Point 5 is the big one. The economy is bad. There are signs that it is finally beginning to improve but I am confident that it is a false dawn and things will shortly get much worse. I expect a financial crisis to begin in the late spring and for there to be a devastating stock market crash in either September or October. There will be a housing crash too.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don't know what will happen in the electoral college. If Trump does win the electoral college, I don't know if the libs will accept the result or will instead launch some sort of revolt/secession/coup.

    Death to America

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @John Johnson, @LondonBob

    US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    Most of the military aid to Ukraine has been decommissioned equipment. It was already paid for.

    Explain how donating it to Ukraine is losing.

    Hamas is Israel’s problem. The US is not involved. Are you suggesting Hamas is winning? They have been wiped out.

    Yemen – Some skinny pirates have slowed shipping lanes to support Hamas. Did you expect them to be killed in 24 hours? Have you seen the size of Yemen? What is the losing part?

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump’s return to become more real to people.

    That is an unknown. Trump could be barred from Federal employment through the documents case.

    Trump’s 2 AM rant about presidential immunity shows a lack of confidence in winning over a jury.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don’t know what will happen in the electoral college.

    Why does it matter if Trump wins the popular vote? It’s like a participation trophy.

    It’s the swing states that matter.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson


    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?
     
    Not-The-President Biden put his personal prestige (and his son's bank account) behind Kiev aggression. Anti-Semite Zelensky's failure thus reflects on the White House occupant as an individual.

    You are correct that the U.S. has nothing at stake. That is why Congress turned off funding for the Veggie-In-Chief's foreign misadventure.

    Why does it matter if Trump wins the popular vote? It’s like a participation trophy.

    It’s the swing states that matter.
     
    True. And, Trump is well ahead in those swing states.

    This has to be translated into actual results by getting people to the polls. His ability to turn out base voters, unlike Romney/Haley/McCain is key to that. Of course, Trump also has strength with independents too.

    Another huge risk is ballot fraud. The GOP must be vigilant to expose Nazicrat corruption. Another stolen election like 2020 would be intolerable.

    PEACE 😇
    , @Greasy William
    @John Johnson


    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?
     
    If Ukraine a stalemate, and I stress ~if~, that is a defeat for the US Empire. It shows that the US can no longer enforce the post WWII liberal international order.

    Israel is a US client state. Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed. Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre and a defeat for Israel is a defeat for the US.

    The Red Sea is still closed, with no prospect of it being reopened in the foreseeable future. The US has already lost 2 servicemen and it will lose more if it chooses to expand operations there.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Sean
    @John Johnson


    US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?


     

    I think think one could argue very successfully that Washington is too successful for its own liking in thwarting Russia in Ukraine. The key defeat of the US which started the Cold War was the loss of China and the shock of Chinese intervention in Korea. Fear about another Chinese intervention made winning Vietnam impossible and the defeat in Vietnam and resultant anti militarism led to the US building up China as a counterweight to the Soviet Union, which has spectacularly backfired in grand strategy terms now that Washington is faced with the completely novel situation of Russia being now closer to China than America is. Russian electronic warfare seems to be in play to hamstring Israel's targeting in Gaza, and its not just Iran that approves, Russia is also getting closer to Middle Eastern countries previously considered US client states such as Saudi Arabia. As a result of trusting the Chinese to do dangerous research banned in the West there was a Pandemic that led to qualitative easing, with inflation that bites those without assets

    It’s the swing states that matter.
     
    People without college degrees are a minority (only a third of US) who form the core of Trump's support. Biden is the man from the US's corporate capital of Wilmington Delaware, and laws framed by those corporations continue to hurt the interests of American workers. The US middle class continue to be pauperised by a health care system that is the most expensive in the world and twice as costly as the second most expensive countries system. as for Biden's strength in the swing states, It is questionable if Biden would ever have been elected had his swing state voters understood he would be in for another term. As the reality of him in the White House again sinks in, it will not be a somewhat harder decision for them this time?

    Replies: @A123

  31. Another big advance in Avdeevka, Fort Fumble says the Ukrainians have supply issues, even down to food, an army marches on its stomach, although the Confederates thought feet, Gettysburg was a boot town.

    Mostly DPR and Z penal battalions in the area, and their numbers aren’t huge, given the Ukrainians have deployed elite units, like the 47th there, it doesn’t bode well.

  32. @Greasy William
    So Trump won big in the IA caucuses and a big Trump victory is anticipated in the NH primaries tomorrow night. DeSantis has already dropped out of the race and endorsed Trump.

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump's return to become more real to people. Currently Trump is up on Biden by 2 points in the polls. Libs are coping by saying that 2022 showed that polls weren't reliable but this is untrue: the House popular vote polls in 2022 were correct, in fact they actually slightly underestimated the Republican margin; the problem was only with the state level polls. If Trump does win the popular vote, and I'm confident that he will, then Trump ~should~ win the electoral college but who knows with how screwy things are now.

    Trump is currently dealing with legal battles and he is showing more signs of cognitive decline, but I don't expect either of those things to make much of a difference. Trump's negatives with the electorate are already baked in and the truth is that voters don't actually care about stuff like corruption or even mental fitness.

    Biden, however, faces some very serious headwinds:

    1. Trump has cognitive decline, but Biden outright has senile dementia
    2. There is a crisis at the border that the Biden regime has completely failed to address
    3. The international situation is awful: the US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen. It is reasonable to expect that the US will soon be losing in Syria as well.
    4. The war in Israel is killing Biden with Muslim voters and with Biden's own left flank. Make no mistake: the Muslim/Arab vote is insignificant (just like the Muslims/Arabs themselves) and most of them will dutifully show up to vote for Biden, same with the non Muslim/Arab Palestine simps, but there are many who will refuse to do so and that could hurt Biden in MN and MI in the event of a close race in those states
    5. The economy sucks

    Point number 1 isn't really a big deal. Voters knew that Biden was senile when they elected him in 2020, and Biden doesn't appear to have gotten any worse since then. And like I said above, Trump also is mentally fading.

    Points 2 and 3 by themselves wouldn't matter if things were going well domestically, but when everything sucks on the home front, the chaos on the border and abroad contributes to the bad vibes. People want the peace and prosperity of the Trump years back.

    Point 4 only matters in the event of a close election, which I simply do not anticipate. I do think that it will cost Biden 1% to 2% of his popular vote margin, but I don't think it will have any impact on the electoral college.

    Point 5 is the big one. The economy is bad. There are signs that it is finally beginning to improve but I am confident that it is a false dawn and things will shortly get much worse. I expect a financial crisis to begin in the late spring and for there to be a devastating stock market crash in either September or October. There will be a housing crash too.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don't know what will happen in the electoral college. If Trump does win the electoral college, I don't know if the libs will accept the result or will instead launch some sort of revolt/secession/coup.

    Death to America

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @John Johnson, @LondonBob

    The reliable local Detroit press poll had Trump up eight or so points in Michigan, have to think the Arab vote is playing an not insignificant role there. Saw the poll highlighted on Richard Baris’s X account.

    • Replies: @Greasy William
    @LondonBob

    The Arabs are a race of zeros. They will dutifully line up to vote for Biden because at the end of the day they care more about being able to import more of their scumfuck relatives than about what happens to the Palestinians. Also, Biden will at least pretend to care about Palestinians, Trump blatantly doesn't give a shit what happens to them

  33. @John Johnson
    @Greasy William

    US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    Most of the military aid to Ukraine has been decommissioned equipment. It was already paid for.

    Explain how donating it to Ukraine is losing.

    Hamas is Israel's problem. The US is not involved. Are you suggesting Hamas is winning? They have been wiped out.

    Yemen - Some skinny pirates have slowed shipping lanes to support Hamas. Did you expect them to be killed in 24 hours? Have you seen the size of Yemen? What is the losing part?

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump’s return to become more real to people.

    That is an unknown. Trump could be barred from Federal employment through the documents case.

    Trump's 2 AM rant about presidential immunity shows a lack of confidence in winning over a jury.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don’t know what will happen in the electoral college.

    Why does it matter if Trump wins the popular vote? It's like a participation trophy.

    It's the swing states that matter.

    Replies: @A123, @Greasy William, @Sean

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    Not-The-President Biden put his personal prestige (and his son’s bank account) behind Kiev aggression. Anti-Semite Zelensky’s failure thus reflects on the White House occupant as an individual.

    You are correct that the U.S. has nothing at stake. That is why Congress turned off funding for the Veggie-In-Chief’s foreign misadventure.

    Why does it matter if Trump wins the popular vote? It’s like a participation trophy.

    It’s the swing states that matter.

    True. And, Trump is well ahead in those swing states.

    This has to be translated into actual results by getting people to the polls. His ability to turn out base voters, unlike Romney/Haley/McCain is key to that. Of course, Trump also has strength with independents too.

    Another huge risk is ballot fraud. The GOP must be vigilant to expose Nazicrat corruption. Another stolen election like 2020 would be intolerable.

    PEACE 😇

  34. @LondonBob
    @Greasy William

    The reliable local Detroit press poll had Trump up eight or so points in Michigan, have to think the Arab vote is playing an not insignificant role there. Saw the poll highlighted on Richard Baris's X account.

    Replies: @Greasy William

    The Arabs are a race of zeros. They will dutifully line up to vote for Biden because at the end of the day they care more about being able to import more of their scumfuck relatives than about what happens to the Palestinians. Also, Biden will at least pretend to care about Palestinians, Trump blatantly doesn’t give a shit what happens to them

  35. @songbird
    Pentagon has reportedly influenced an estimated 10,000 scripts, when you count TV episodes. What is the CIA count?

    Replies: @QCIC

    Maybe you should count the number of scripts which are not government influenced.

    It still fries my brain to consider that Mnuchin is a movie producer.

    • Agree: songbird
  36. @John Johnson
    @Greasy William

    US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    Most of the military aid to Ukraine has been decommissioned equipment. It was already paid for.

    Explain how donating it to Ukraine is losing.

    Hamas is Israel's problem. The US is not involved. Are you suggesting Hamas is winning? They have been wiped out.

    Yemen - Some skinny pirates have slowed shipping lanes to support Hamas. Did you expect them to be killed in 24 hours? Have you seen the size of Yemen? What is the losing part?

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump’s return to become more real to people.

    That is an unknown. Trump could be barred from Federal employment through the documents case.

    Trump's 2 AM rant about presidential immunity shows a lack of confidence in winning over a jury.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don’t know what will happen in the electoral college.

    Why does it matter if Trump wins the popular vote? It's like a participation trophy.

    It's the swing states that matter.

    Replies: @A123, @Greasy William, @Sean

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    If Ukraine a stalemate, and I stress ~if~, that is a defeat for the US Empire. It shows that the US can no longer enforce the post WWII liberal international order.

    Israel is a US client state. Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed. Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre and a defeat for Israel is a defeat for the US.

    The Red Sea is still closed, with no prospect of it being reopened in the foreseeable future. The US has already lost 2 servicemen and it will lose more if it chooses to expand operations there.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Greasy William


    Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed.
     
    It is obvious that Hamas is going to be removed. The kidnapper/terrorists are cut off from resupply and are being killed off at a 20:1 rate. This will be a victory for Palestinian Jews.

    The Veggie-In-Chief sent Blinken to intervene on Hamas's behalf. Netanyahu refused to cooperate (see #18). This is another personal blow to the feeble White House occupant, but it does not spill over to the rest of the country.

    Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre
     
    Iran was behind the Oct 7 massacre.

    While the diversion of international attention away from Ukraine was helpful, there has yet to be any evidence that Russia was involved.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Derer

    , @John Johnson
    @Greasy William


    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?
     
    If Ukraine a stalemate, and I stress ~if~, that is a defeat for the US Empire. It shows that the US can no longer enforce the post WWII liberal international order.

    The US has no directive to enforce any type of international order. Ukraine and most of Eastern Europe was abandoned to the tyranny of Communism by the Allies after WW2. There was never an international order for countries that suffered under Nazism.

    Ukraine is not a member of NATO and there has been no UN order to commit military support.

    Donating military hardware is not a defeat nor a win. The US donates billions in military aid to multiple countries around the world. Is that losing?

    Israel is a US client state.

    Israel is not a client state as seen by Netanyahu's rejection of US requests to reduce air strikes.

    Both Ukraine and Israel have rejected military requests from the US.

    There goes the theory that both are under the authority of the US. Netanyahu continues to blow off Blinken and Zelensky rejected US advice on the invasion and Bakhmut. Russia would be in a much worse position if they had listened to US generals.

    Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed.

    Removing 99% of Hamas is a defeat for Israel? That doesn't make any sense.

    Is the political position and worldwide reputation of Hamas stronger after their rape 'n pillage attack?

    The Red Sea is still closed, with no prospect of it being reopened in the foreseeable future. The US has already lost 2 servicemen and it will lose more if it chooses to expand operations there.

    Wow 2 servicemen. That changes everything.

    How is this any different than Somali piracy? Shipping was temporarily shut down until counter-measures were taken. Was that a defeat for all countries that used those shipping channels?

    You want to see the US lose more than you want to look at reality. Suggesting that Hamas can somehow win is the epitome of delusion. They spent years building tunnels and Israel blew them up within weeks. For what? What was the big gain? So they could lose their men and go down in history as a bunch of loser rapists?

    Your desire for shaudenfruede is distorting your judgement.

    Replies: @Greasy William

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Greasy William

    "Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre"

    That's the most unlikely thing I've heard. Surely the correct thing is "Iran, and that's why we need to bomb them asap".

    I personally doubt that either Iran or Russia, or even Hezbollah, had a clue what was planned. And don't forget that a large number of the massacre victims were killed by Israeli forces - the Hannibal directive may have been rejected de jure but implemented de facto.

    It's possible with the additional hostage deaths from Israeli bombing, that more civilian Jews will have been killed by Israel than by Hamas since October 7.

    Hamas could theoretically be removed if the entire Arab population and the West Bank were killed or driven out. That seems to be the Israeli plan, and the hopelessly compromised/blackmailed/threatened West is standing there flapping its collective hands - "I say, Bibi, there's a good chap, don't be like that...".

    From today's news - it looks as if the IDF is discovering that blowing down buildings onto people is only fun if the people underneath are women and kids.

  37. @Mikel
    There seems to be a pattern of Ukrainians attacking civilian targets, especially in Donbas, after suffering some setback on the battlefield. Perhaps it's all just a coincidence, who knows, but there have been multiple instances and it's very difficult to imagine what military goal could be achieved by directing an artillery volley to a market in Donetsk at peak shopping hours. I'm not aware that they've even tried explaining it this time. Not that any explanation by these inveterate liars would have any credibility but even the NYT, the BBC and ISW, who strangely decided to report on the carnage, failed to get any Ukrainian version of the events.

    Putin's invasion of Ukraine was an unprecedented violation of international law in Europe and I can understand why some people may legitimately think that helping Ukraine militarily was necessary. But the reality is that arming Ukraine, especially with sophisticated weapons, makes us less secure, not more. It is just a given that they are going to use them to kill civilians, as the 8 years of the Donbas conflict show. Apparently, yesterday's attack (like the attack on the center of Belgorod some weeks ago) was also carried out using NATO ordnance.

    For those of us who have been paying some attention to the Ukraine conflict before it evolved into this all-out war it is crystal clear that Putin never had any intention of marching on Warsaw, or Berlin, or those fantasies that the Nikki parrots keep repeating. However, I can perfectly imagine a revengeful Russia coming out of this war with the intention of settling scores with the countries that have helped Ukraine commit these actions. When you kill their women and children people tend to forget who started what and only deep hatred ensues, like we see in Palestine. Having Russian innocent blood on our hands is a very dumb position to get ourselves into, regardless of whether one thinks that we should help Ukraine defeat Russia or not.

    Judging by the comments I see on Russian telegram channels, I see a future of deep resentment against Western countries in that nuclear-armed country. If someone more audacious than Putin comes to power I wouldn't discard Nikki's crazy prophecies actually becoming true, especially if the Russians finally manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Ukraine and recover their confidence in their military. It's getting urgent to have our diplomats justify their generous salaries and find a peace agreement in Ukraine rather than flying to those silly get-togethers in Davos and the climate summits.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN, @AP

    There seems to be a pattern of Ukrainians attacking civilian targets, especially in Donbas, after suffering some setback on the battlefield

    Have there been significant setbacks on the battlefield?

    it’s very difficult to imagine what military goal could be achieved by directing an artillery volley to a market in Donetsk at peak shopping hours.

    And right before Russia was going to the security council. How inconvenient.

    I’m not aware that they’ve even tried explaining it this time

    Not sure what Ukrainian authorities have been saying, but fwiw (I do not endorse any story about this) pro-Ukrainians are claiming that the Russians did it as a false flag attack. Supposedly the first Russian story was that the shells used were 122 mm mortars which are supposedly beyond the range of NATO mortars of that type (the front is 15 km from central Donetsk). The Russians then changed their story and stated that the artillery were 152 and 155. This would be within range, but video supposedly shows that the firing and hit were too close together, so the shells could not have travelled so far and must have been fired from a closer position in Russian-held territory (see after “more”).

    I don’t endorse that, but is is not impossible. Russia has shown strong disregard for Donbas lives, they are expendable for the interests of the Russian state.

    the reality is that arming Ukraine, especially with sophisticated weapons, makes us less secure, not more

    Allowing Russia to break the stalemate at the front and to take the fight to Ukraine’s cities makes us more secure? Do you think we would be more secure if Russia chose to go for the Baltics next?

    It is just a given that they are going to use them to kill civilians

    If that were the goal, don’t you think far more civilians would have been killed? Looks like Ukraine has mostly been hitting military targets such as ships, military factories and radars, or the oil and gas export infrastructure that funds Russia’s war effort. There has not been a pattern of mass bombardment of purely civilian, or residential areas.

    Apparently, yesterday’s attack (like the attack on the center of Belgorod some weeks ago) was also carried out using NATO ordnance.

    And do you know if the civilian destruction in Belgorod wasn’t caused by Russian air defense missiles coming down in civilian areas, or Ukrainian rockets being taken down before they reached their targets (this is how many Ukrainian civilians died)? There was video of at least one Russian missile failing and coming down over Belgorod.

    Belgorod is from where Russians have been shelling Kharkiv. Do you think Ukrainians don’t have the right to shoot back at all?

    Having Russian innocent blood on our hands

    Sadly, any fighting back will involve loss of civilian life. Many French people were killed during the liberation of France. Are you suggesting Ukraine not fight back at all? That Russia bomb Ukraine from Belgorod and other areas with no answer?

    If someone more audacious than Putin comes to power I wouldn’t discard Nikki’s crazy prophecies actually becoming true, especially if the Russians finally manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Ukraine and recover their confidence in their military

    In which case it is better for Russia to be smaller and weaker than for it to be stronger, and thus it would be better to give Ukraine what it needs to prevent Russia from being larger.

    I doubt Russia will win, but if it were to conquer all or most of Ukraine there is at least a 30% chance that Russia would next go after the Baltics. They are too close to Russia’s second city, they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances), and they separate Russian Kaliningrad from Belarus and Russia. A successful takeover might break NATO, if NATO doesn’t respond robustly. Russia’s government has already declared for the Soviet borders (optimistically, as some sort of negotiation position, like it’s recent claim the the Alaska sale was illegal, but who knows?).

    If the Baltics are attacked, US might not do much but Poland almost certainly would. And then US and Germany would be more tempted to get involved. I suspect I know what your position would be – neither Poland nor the Baltics are worth a possible nuclear holocaust, we need to keep backing off. But I doubt it will go that way.

    The way to stop a possible cascade of such events and prevent a much larger mess would be to keep the war in Ukraine and end it there, by giving Ukraine what it needs. No American lives used or lost, no wider war.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    So what is a peaceful resolution to this condunrum you mention? The situation was created by Western pressure on Russia. It may require a wise compromise to avoid the Russian takeover you suggest.


    AP wrote: I doubt Russia will win, but if it were to conquer all or most of Ukraine there is at least a 30% chance that Russia would next go after the Baltics. They are too close to Russia’s second city, they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances), and they separate Russian Kaliningrad from Belarus and Russia. A successful takeover might break NATO, if NATO doesn’t respond robustly. Russia’s government has already declared for the Soviet borders (optimistically, as some sort of negotiation position, like it’s recent claim the the Alaska sale was illegal, but who knows?).
     

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances),
     
    Worth noting that if NATO beats Russia in a conventional war without nukes being used and expels Russia from the Baltics, then the Balts are likely to ethnically cleanse their countries of Russians post-WWII Czech-style. Russia surely doesn't want that, does it?
  38. @Mr. XYZ
    Off-topic, but could you see a Russia that avoided the 1917 Bolshevik coup helping to create an alternate version of the EU and NATO (but without the US) in order to help foster economic development and maintain security in Europe in the post-WWI years and decades? With the US descending back into isolationism, if Russia isn't Communist, I suspect that Russia will play a huge role as being one of Europe's main post-WWI security guarantors in such a scenario.

    Replies: @Derer, @Philip Owen

    If Trump is elected and UK being out, Europe having their own security institution is quite realistic. The Washington players want to keep NATO with tooth and nail…without NATO the collective appearance of US world escapades would be gone as well as the Washington seat in Europe would be gone.

    The EU was created partly for unloading the US yoke, but EU leadership comprised of weaklings and some still admiring US “chewing gums”, especially from country P.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Derer


    ...The EU was created partly for unloading the US yoke, but EU leadership comprised of weaklings
     
    It failed and EU became more dependent on US. You are right, it happened because the people who were selected were 'chewing gum' devotees. Chewers are easy to please.

    But there was also an institutional reason: both the center in Brussels and the countries today lack full power. The very messy and improvised transition to create EU took power and authority from the countries without giving it to Brussels. That left a huge power vacuum that was filled by US and NGO's. If you leave power on the ground others will pick it up - that's the lesson naive Euros have to relearn. But for that one needs to have actual cojones.

    What we have in Brussels today is a fake state: none of the basic state functions are done in Brussels - but the countries lost their previous ability to do it the way they want to. Instead they point at each other, use it as an excuse for inactivity or for really stupid activity (C19, Ukraine, migrants...). There is no single neck to choke - that is fatal, both in business relations and with government functions.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    What is country P?

    Replies: @Derer

  39. @Greasy William
    @John Johnson


    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?
     
    If Ukraine a stalemate, and I stress ~if~, that is a defeat for the US Empire. It shows that the US can no longer enforce the post WWII liberal international order.

    Israel is a US client state. Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed. Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre and a defeat for Israel is a defeat for the US.

    The Red Sea is still closed, with no prospect of it being reopened in the foreseeable future. The US has already lost 2 servicemen and it will lose more if it chooses to expand operations there.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @YetAnotherAnon

    Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed.

    It is obvious that Hamas is going to be removed. The kidnapper/terrorists are cut off from resupply and are being killed off at a 20:1 rate. This will be a victory for Palestinian Jews.

    The Veggie-In-Chief sent Blinken to intervene on Hamas’s behalf. Netanyahu refused to cooperate (see #18). This is another personal blow to the feeble White House occupant, but it does not spill over to the rest of the country.

    Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre

    Iran was behind the Oct 7 massacre.

    While the diversion of international attention away from Ukraine was helpful, there has yet to be any evidence that Russia was involved.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Derer
    @A123


    This will be a victory for Palestinian Jews.
     
    Where did you get that term? Those are European Joos or Israel Joos.

    It is obvious that Hamas is going to be removed.
     
    No. Israel is tiny vulnerable religious country surrounded by the "ocean" of Islam. Hamas is not alone. Hezbollah is armed to the teeth, Iraq is now run by the pro-Iran Shia (thanks to younger Shrub). The exodus is starting - Florida is the place.

    Replies: @A123

  40. Opinion of Shia Islam improves immensely:

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    @Sher Singh

    Twelver Shiites are obsessed with their purity laws, in fact the overwhelming majority of written Shii jurisprudence concerns maintaining ritual cleanliness following proximity with people or things considered unclean. Sometimes it's claimed there's a Zoroastrian legacy in this regard but I don't know about that. Khomeini was actually quite unusual in his interest in more esoteric aspects of Shiism.
    Almost anything of theological interest in Shiism fell into disfavour during the later Safavid period, and then was outright supressed from the Qajar era onwards, when the Ulama became an independent political force in its own right (the Safavid Shahs were considered holy and so had much more control over Shii clerical parasites).
    Could write a lot more about orthodox Twelver Shii practice and belief but I'd probably start boring even myself.

    , @Yevardian
    @Sher Singh

    Reminds the British diplomatic experience with Mohamad Shah Qajar, who unusually had humanitarian inclinations, possibly stemming from his (disapproved of) Sufi influences in his upbringing. But despite his sincere attempts to end judicial torture and even the persecution of Babi heretics, when the British appealed to him to shut down the slave trade, he was unmoved and replied he was interested in the rights of full humans.

    The British forced the end of maritime slave trade in the Persian Gulf anyway, but I think it wasn't until the constitutional revolution of 1905 that negro slavery was officially abolished within Iran.

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    , @songbird
    @Sher Singh

    Not closely related, but I have often wondered if there are any unpublished ethnographic writings among the Timbuktu manuscripts.

    I wouldn't really trust them to release them, or necessarily preserve them. Probably, they would do the accounting by saying that they were "destroyed" in the Mali War.

  41. @Greasy William
    @John Johnson


    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?
     
    If Ukraine a stalemate, and I stress ~if~, that is a defeat for the US Empire. It shows that the US can no longer enforce the post WWII liberal international order.

    Israel is a US client state. Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed. Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre and a defeat for Israel is a defeat for the US.

    The Red Sea is still closed, with no prospect of it being reopened in the foreseeable future. The US has already lost 2 servicemen and it will lose more if it chooses to expand operations there.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @YetAnotherAnon

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    If Ukraine a stalemate, and I stress ~if~, that is a defeat for the US Empire. It shows that the US can no longer enforce the post WWII liberal international order.

    The US has no directive to enforce any type of international order. Ukraine and most of Eastern Europe was abandoned to the tyranny of Communism by the Allies after WW2. There was never an international order for countries that suffered under Nazism.

    Ukraine is not a member of NATO and there has been no UN order to commit military support.

    Donating military hardware is not a defeat nor a win. The US donates billions in military aid to multiple countries around the world. Is that losing?

    [MORE]

    Israel is a US client state.

    Israel is not a client state as seen by Netanyahu’s rejection of US requests to reduce air strikes.

    Both Ukraine and Israel have rejected military requests from the US.

    There goes the theory that both are under the authority of the US. Netanyahu continues to blow off Blinken and Zelensky rejected US advice on the invasion and Bakhmut. Russia would be in a much worse position if they had listened to US generals.

    Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed.

    Removing 99% of Hamas is a defeat for Israel? That doesn’t make any sense.

    Is the political position and worldwide reputation of Hamas stronger after their rape ‘n pillage attack?

    The Red Sea is still closed, with no prospect of it being reopened in the foreseeable future. The US has already lost 2 servicemen and it will lose more if it chooses to expand operations there.

    Wow 2 servicemen. That changes everything.

    How is this any different than Somali piracy? Shipping was temporarily shut down until counter-measures were taken. Was that a defeat for all countries that used those shipping channels?

    You want to see the US lose more than you want to look at reality. Suggesting that Hamas can somehow win is the epitome of delusion. They spent years building tunnels and Israel blew them up within weeks. For what? What was the big gain? So they could lose their men and go down in history as a bunch of loser rapists?

    Your desire for shaudenfruede is distorting your judgement.

    • Replies: @Greasy William
    @John Johnson


    Removing 99% of Hamas is a defeat for Israel?
     
    Removing 99% of a tumor is not a success.

    Is the political position and worldwide reputation of Hamas stronger after their rape ‘n pillage attack?
     
    Yes, it is. Antisemitism is higher now than it has been at any time post WW2. The entire Arab Islamic world sees what Hamas did on Oct 7th as heroic and so do hundreds of millions, if not billions, of other people all around the world.

    Suggesting that Hamas can somehow win is the epitome of delusion. They spent years building tunnels and Israel blew them up within weeks. For what? What was the big gain?
     
    Well first of all, they murdered/maimed/raped thousands of Jews, which to them is big achievement. Even more importantly from their perspective, they humiliated the State of Israel.

    The only way this war ends is for Hamas to get it's prisoners back and for it to get huge amounts of aid flowing into Gaza. Hamas doesn't care about how many fighters it has lost: literally the only reason a young man joins Hamas is because he wants to get killed.

    Hamas is going to stay in power. It is going to get hundreds, if not thousands of its prisoners back. It is going to get 10s of billions of dollars worth of aid that will allow it to rebuild it's tunnels and its arsenal. And it is going to be perfectly set up to wage an insurgency against the IDF in northern Gaza for as long as Israel elects to remain there.
  42. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack


    Why pose such a ridiculous question to me, when anybody with eyes can see how Ukrainians react to the evil deeds of a real life devil like Putler?
     
    I sometimes imagine that Bandera made a deal with Devil. All those ax-murders were pretty ritualistic. Hard to believe that Banderites were so low on ammunition, that they had to use axes.

    How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putler’s Russia were to invade and cross Poland’s borders and kill and savage everything in sight?
     
    Well, personally I am far away from the sight of Putin, as I am close to Czech border. Maybe I would cross it (FYI, I am officially unfit for military service).BTW, why aren't you in Ukraine fighting?
    Poles would fight and pray. Poland had great tradition of "entrusting Poland to God" (zawierzyć Polskę Bogu), sometimes even to Holy Mary (zawierzyć Polskę Maryi), which I think is certain devaluation of Poland, since Mary was just a human being and not Polish at all. Maybe we would choose the Saint John Paul II this time ;)
    Occultism is pretty weak in Poland so no chance of choosing Devil here.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack

    I sometimes imagine that Bandera made a deal with Devil. All those ax-murders were pretty ritualistic. Hard to believe that Banderites were so low on ammunition, that they had to use axes

    .

    I don’t condone these actions, and actually have enough Polish blood in my ancestry to have qualified for annihilation by these fanatics if they had implemented their draconian blood laws as to ethnicity had I lived in Ukraine at that time, but you have to wonder if their wasn’t some terrible angst and revenge that was expressed for real and imagined wrongs perpetrated by the Polish colonists in these Ukrainian areas, that had been brewing for a very long time.

    Ukrainians venerate both Our Lady and the Archangel Michael as protectors of Ukraine and its armed forces. I pray to both saints and request that they help Ukraine out and provide her with a just and lasting peace. I’m old enough to be your father and prefer my fighting at home (born in the USA) through my computer.

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...revenge that was expressed for real and imagined wrongs perpetrated by the Polish colonists in these Ukrainian areas, that had been brewing for a very long time.
     
    Yeah, very long time, like 500 years. But they were still only Polish colonists to you....and the Russians who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for over 200 years are in your mind only "Russian colonists"...no rights and ready for the Ukie angst, rage and revenge.

    Are you also a "colonist' in USA? I doubt your ancestors have been there for 200 or 500 years. When the mestizos come to show their rage in Phoenix, remember you are only a "colonist" and they have lived with this terrible angst of having you there - it has brewed for a long time.

    From what I see on your border, millions are coming to check up on you 'colonists'. And they are bringing a lot of help from all over the Third World. But you instead worry if "Lugansk" is in Russia or in Ukraine...the precious narcissism of small minds....

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

  43. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    If Trump is elected and UK being out, Europe having their own security institution is quite realistic. The Washington players want to keep NATO with tooth and nail...without NATO the collective appearance of US world escapades would be gone as well as the Washington seat in Europe would be gone.

    The EU was created partly for unloading the US yoke, but EU leadership comprised of weaklings and some still admiring US "chewing gums", especially from country P.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    …The EU was created partly for unloading the US yoke, but EU leadership comprised of weaklings

    It failed and EU became more dependent on US. You are right, it happened because the people who were selected were ‘chewing gum’ devotees. Chewers are easy to please.

    But there was also an institutional reason: both the center in Brussels and the countries today lack full power. The very messy and improvised transition to create EU took power and authority from the countries without giving it to Brussels. That left a huge power vacuum that was filled by US and NGO’s. If you leave power on the ground others will pick it up – that’s the lesson naive Euros have to relearn. But for that one needs to have actual cojones.

    What we have in Brussels today is a fake state: none of the basic state functions are done in Brussels – but the countries lost their previous ability to do it the way they want to. Instead they point at each other, use it as an excuse for inactivity or for really stupid activity (C19, Ukraine, migrants…). There is no single neck to choke – that is fatal, both in business relations and with government functions.

  44. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    OK, we must remember that a lot of the gloom is aimed at getting Congress to "give us the f******* money" as Bob Geldof puts it, but all the same... for a country that's not directly involved, it looks as if Western Ukraine (we must remember all the Ukrainians fighting against Zelensky) is supplying warm bodies and the US is supplying everything else.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/incredibly-stark-biden-aides-give-lawmakers-grim-assessment-ukraine-ai-rcna134792


    WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden’s top aides bluntly told lawmakers in a private meeting on Wednesday that if Congress fails to authorize additional military aid for Ukraine in the coming days, Russia could win the war in a matter of weeks — months at best, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

    National security adviser Jake Sullivan and the Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines told the lawmakers that Ukraine will run out of certain air defense and artillery capabilities in the coming weeks, according to the people familiar with the meeting.

    The grim assessment, which one White House official described as “incredibly stark,” was delivered as the future of Ukraine aid has never been more uncertain. It also comes as White House officials are increasingly alarmed at the prospect of Biden failing to follow through with his promise that the U.S. will be there for Kyiv “as long as it takes.”

    In Wednesday’s meeting at the White House, Sullivan and Haines gave the top congressional leaders a classified time frame for when Ukraine’s key military resources will be significantly depleted, and a detailed assessment of the current dynamics on the battlefield, the two people familiar with the meeting said.
     

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    it looks as if Western Ukraine (we must remember all the Ukrainians fighting against Zelensky) is supplying warm bodies and the US is supplying everything else.

    It’s my understanding that very little of the home-grown talent that decided to fight with the insurrectionists are still around. The vast army of those fighting on Moscow’s side are Russians from all corners of Russia and Chechnya.

    Besides, which role would you rather play, the fat entrepreneur making large profits off of arms sales, or the Ukrainian soldier freezing his balls inside of a foxhole?

  45. @Mr. Hack
    @Another Polish Perspective


    I sometimes imagine that Bandera made a deal with Devil. All those ax-murders were pretty ritualistic. Hard to believe that Banderites were so low on ammunition, that they had to use axes
     
    .

    I don't condone these actions, and actually have enough Polish blood in my ancestry to have qualified for annihilation by these fanatics if they had implemented their draconian blood laws as to ethnicity had I lived in Ukraine at that time, but you have to wonder if their wasn't some terrible angst and revenge that was expressed for real and imagined wrongs perpetrated by the Polish colonists in these Ukrainian areas, that had been brewing for a very long time.

    Ukrainians venerate both Our Lady and the Archangel Michael as protectors of Ukraine and its armed forces. I pray to both saints and request that they help Ukraine out and provide her with a just and lasting peace. I'm old enough to be your father and prefer my fighting at home (born in the USA) through my computer.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …revenge that was expressed for real and imagined wrongs perpetrated by the Polish colonists in these Ukrainian areas, that had been brewing for a very long time.

    Yeah, very long time, like 500 years. But they were still only Polish colonists to you….and the Russians who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for over 200 years are in your mind only “Russian colonists”…no rights and ready for the Ukie angst, rage and revenge.

    Are you also a “colonist’ in USA? I doubt your ancestors have been there for 200 or 500 years. When the mestizos come to show their rage in Phoenix, remember you are only a “colonist” and they have lived with this terrible angst of having you there – it has brewed for a long time.

    From what I see on your border, millions are coming to check up on you ‘colonists’. And they are bringing a lot of help from all over the Third World. But you instead worry if “Lugansk” is in Russia or in Ukraine…the precious narcissism of small minds….

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    The irony is that American born Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.

    It's guilt ridden Whites like Biden that want to keep the border open.

    Most Hispanics don't want random third worlders coming across the border and they tend to not like Guatemalans, Haitians or Ecuadoreans. American born Hispanics also correctly assume their wages will be undermined with more illegals.

    Trump actually gained Hispanics in the last election. He lost independent Whites.

    The biggest advocates for open borders are Whites in Northern states that don't know what the border looks like. They have never been to the border in a state like Arizona. There are Hispanic left-wingers in California and NY but they don't represent their constituents.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Yeah, very long time, like 500 years.
     
    Once again displaying your complete lack of knowledge regarding Ukrainian and Polish history. What was the whole early part of the 20th century about in Western Ukrainian lands in Galicia and Volhynia if not Polish and Ukrainian atrocities, pacifications and political back and forth between Poles and Ukrainians? You're getting to sound real boring shooting off your mouth about subjects you know nothing about.

    and the Russians who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for over 200 years are in your mind only “Russian colonists”…no rights and ready for the Ukie angst, rage and revenge.
     
    Sure they've lived in these part for a couple centuries (that should count for something) but did you ever look into how they ended up in these parts, if not colonists then what would you call them, uninvited guests? :-)

    Your spiel is getting old and warn out here, I actually skip over your comments quite often,they're so boring and repetitive. I really don't know where AP has developed his patience in dealing with you.


    When the mestizos come to show their rage in Phoenix, remember you are only a “colonist” and they have lived with this terrible angst of having you there – it has brewed for a long time.
     
    Another one of your really dumb statements. "Mestizos"of all economic classes are glad to be in Phoenix, working and making money providing a better life for themselves and their families. I don't see any war drums on the horizon like you do. :-)

    https://ktar.com/wp-content/uploads/cms/34/3498/349817.jpg

    Replies: @LT1488

  46. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...revenge that was expressed for real and imagined wrongs perpetrated by the Polish colonists in these Ukrainian areas, that had been brewing for a very long time.
     
    Yeah, very long time, like 500 years. But they were still only Polish colonists to you....and the Russians who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for over 200 years are in your mind only "Russian colonists"...no rights and ready for the Ukie angst, rage and revenge.

    Are you also a "colonist' in USA? I doubt your ancestors have been there for 200 or 500 years. When the mestizos come to show their rage in Phoenix, remember you are only a "colonist" and they have lived with this terrible angst of having you there - it has brewed for a long time.

    From what I see on your border, millions are coming to check up on you 'colonists'. And they are bringing a lot of help from all over the Third World. But you instead worry if "Lugansk" is in Russia or in Ukraine...the precious narcissism of small minds....

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

    The irony is that American born Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.

    It’s guilt ridden Whites like Biden that want to keep the border open.

    Most Hispanics don’t want random third worlders coming across the border and they tend to not like Guatemalans, Haitians or Ecuadoreans. American born Hispanics also correctly assume their wages will be undermined with more illegals.

    Trump actually gained Hispanics in the last election. He lost independent Whites.

    The biggest advocates for open borders are Whites in Northern states that don’t know what the border looks like. They have never been to the border in a state like Arizona. There are Hispanic left-wingers in California and NY but they don’t represent their constituents.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.
     
    Probably, but is anything up to them? They are the working poor (mostly) and by the ancient Western standard they have to "earn" the right to have an opinion. If they have a wrong one it is ignored.

    At the end these ethnic distinctions will be irrelevant. The only thing that will matter is the reality on the ground - it is almost irreversible that most of the US Southwest will revert to its "pre-colonist" past with all the consequences.

    Thanks to the short 150-year intermezzo by the Euro colonists the lands have been built up and there will be 50-100 times as many people there - the great achievement of the Western Euros will be to make it possible for the assorted Third World natives to massively multiply and flood the earth. Just as they were told in the good book...:)

    Is that all the greatest civilization that ever was will leave behind? A few billion short, swarthy, fat, diabetic, sub-85 IQ losers? How do you run the world with people like that?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  47. @AP
    @Mikel


    There seems to be a pattern of Ukrainians attacking civilian targets, especially in Donbas, after suffering some setback on the battlefield
     
    Have there been significant setbacks on the battlefield?

    it’s very difficult to imagine what military goal could be achieved by directing an artillery volley to a market in Donetsk at peak shopping hours.

     

    And right before Russia was going to the security council. How inconvenient.

    I’m not aware that they’ve even tried explaining it this time
     
    Not sure what Ukrainian authorities have been saying, but fwiw (I do not endorse any story about this) pro-Ukrainians are claiming that the Russians did it as a false flag attack. Supposedly the first Russian story was that the shells used were 122 mm mortars which are supposedly beyond the range of NATO mortars of that type (the front is 15 km from central Donetsk). The Russians then changed their story and stated that the artillery were 152 and 155. This would be within range, but video supposedly shows that the firing and hit were too close together, so the shells could not have travelled so far and must have been fired from a closer position in Russian-held territory (see after “more”).

    I don’t endorse that, but is is not impossible. Russia has shown strong disregard for Donbas lives, they are expendable for the interests of the Russian state.

    the reality is that arming Ukraine, especially with sophisticated weapons, makes us less secure, not more
     
    Allowing Russia to break the stalemate at the front and to take the fight to Ukraine’s cities makes us more secure? Do you think we would be more secure if Russia chose to go for the Baltics next?

    It is just a given that they are going to use them to kill civilians

     

    If that were the goal, don’t you think far more civilians would have been killed? Looks like Ukraine has mostly been hitting military targets such as ships, military factories and radars, or the oil and gas export infrastructure that funds Russia’s war effort. There has not been a pattern of mass bombardment of purely civilian, or residential areas.

    Apparently, yesterday’s attack (like the attack on the center of Belgorod some weeks ago) was also carried out using NATO ordnance.
     
    And do you know if the civilian destruction in Belgorod wasn’t caused by Russian air defense missiles coming down in civilian areas, or Ukrainian rockets being taken down before they reached their targets (this is how many Ukrainian civilians died)? There was video of at least one Russian missile failing and coming down over Belgorod.

    Belgorod is from where Russians have been shelling Kharkiv. Do you think Ukrainians don’t have the right to shoot back at all?

    Having Russian innocent blood on our hands
     
    Sadly, any fighting back will involve loss of civilian life. Many French people were killed during the liberation of France. Are you suggesting Ukraine not fight back at all? That Russia bomb Ukraine from Belgorod and other areas with no answer?

    If someone more audacious than Putin comes to power I wouldn’t discard Nikki’s crazy prophecies actually becoming true, especially if the Russians finally manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Ukraine and recover their confidence in their military
     
    In which case it is better for Russia to be smaller and weaker than for it to be stronger, and thus it would be better to give Ukraine what it needs to prevent Russia from being larger.

    I doubt Russia will win, but if it were to conquer all or most of Ukraine there is at least a 30% chance that Russia would next go after the Baltics. They are too close to Russia’s second city, they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances), and they separate Russian Kaliningrad from Belarus and Russia. A successful takeover might break NATO, if NATO doesn’t respond robustly. Russia’s government has already declared for the Soviet borders (optimistically, as some sort of negotiation position, like it’s recent claim the the Alaska sale was illegal, but who knows?).

    If the Baltics are attacked, US might not do much but Poland almost certainly would. And then US and Germany would be more tempted to get involved. I suspect I know what your position would be - neither Poland nor the Baltics are worth a possible nuclear holocaust, we need to keep backing off. But I doubt it will go that way.

    The way to stop a possible cascade of such events and prevent a much larger mess would be to keep the war in Ukraine and end it there, by giving Ukraine what it needs. No American lives used or lost, no wider war.



    https://twitter.com/malcontentmentt/status/1749311298603815324?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    So what is a peaceful resolution to this condunrum you mention? The situation was created by Western pressure on Russia. It may require a wise compromise to avoid the Russian takeover you suggest.

    AP wrote: I doubt Russia will win, but if it were to conquer all or most of Ukraine there is at least a 30% chance that Russia would next go after the Baltics. They are too close to Russia’s second city, they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances), and they separate Russian Kaliningrad from Belarus and Russia. A successful takeover might break NATO, if NATO doesn’t respond robustly. Russia’s government has already declared for the Soviet borders (optimistically, as some sort of negotiation position, like it’s recent claim the the Alaska sale was illegal, but who knows?).

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    So what is a peaceful resolution to this condunrum you mention?
     
    Russia isn't interested in a peaceful resolution (Lavrov just said Ukraine's government must be replaced), so there will be none until its leadership changes their mind. And this can only be done if it's military is stopped in Ukraine, which requires an ongoing flow of weapons to Ukraine. The purpose is to make it clear to Russia that further warfare is futile.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean

  48. @John Johnson
    @Greasy William


    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?
     
    If Ukraine a stalemate, and I stress ~if~, that is a defeat for the US Empire. It shows that the US can no longer enforce the post WWII liberal international order.

    The US has no directive to enforce any type of international order. Ukraine and most of Eastern Europe was abandoned to the tyranny of Communism by the Allies after WW2. There was never an international order for countries that suffered under Nazism.

    Ukraine is not a member of NATO and there has been no UN order to commit military support.

    Donating military hardware is not a defeat nor a win. The US donates billions in military aid to multiple countries around the world. Is that losing?

    Israel is a US client state.

    Israel is not a client state as seen by Netanyahu's rejection of US requests to reduce air strikes.

    Both Ukraine and Israel have rejected military requests from the US.

    There goes the theory that both are under the authority of the US. Netanyahu continues to blow off Blinken and Zelensky rejected US advice on the invasion and Bakhmut. Russia would be in a much worse position if they had listened to US generals.

    Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed.

    Removing 99% of Hamas is a defeat for Israel? That doesn't make any sense.

    Is the political position and worldwide reputation of Hamas stronger after their rape 'n pillage attack?

    The Red Sea is still closed, with no prospect of it being reopened in the foreseeable future. The US has already lost 2 servicemen and it will lose more if it chooses to expand operations there.

    Wow 2 servicemen. That changes everything.

    How is this any different than Somali piracy? Shipping was temporarily shut down until counter-measures were taken. Was that a defeat for all countries that used those shipping channels?

    You want to see the US lose more than you want to look at reality. Suggesting that Hamas can somehow win is the epitome of delusion. They spent years building tunnels and Israel blew them up within weeks. For what? What was the big gain? So they could lose their men and go down in history as a bunch of loser rapists?

    Your desire for shaudenfruede is distorting your judgement.

    Replies: @Greasy William

    Removing 99% of Hamas is a defeat for Israel?

    Removing 99% of a tumor is not a success.

    Is the political position and worldwide reputation of Hamas stronger after their rape ‘n pillage attack?

    Yes, it is. Antisemitism is higher now than it has been at any time post WW2. The entire Arab Islamic world sees what Hamas did on Oct 7th as heroic and so do hundreds of millions, if not billions, of other people all around the world.

    Suggesting that Hamas can somehow win is the epitome of delusion. They spent years building tunnels and Israel blew them up within weeks. For what? What was the big gain?

    Well first of all, they murdered/maimed/raped thousands of Jews, which to them is big achievement. Even more importantly from their perspective, they humiliated the State of Israel.

    The only way this war ends is for Hamas to get it’s prisoners back and for it to get huge amounts of aid flowing into Gaza. Hamas doesn’t care about how many fighters it has lost: literally the only reason a young man joins Hamas is because he wants to get killed.

    Hamas is going to stay in power. It is going to get hundreds, if not thousands of its prisoners back. It is going to get 10s of billions of dollars worth of aid that will allow it to rebuild it’s tunnels and its arsenal. And it is going to be perfectly set up to wage an insurgency against the IDF in northern Gaza for as long as Israel elects to remain there.

  49. @QCIC
    @AP

    So what is a peaceful resolution to this condunrum you mention? The situation was created by Western pressure on Russia. It may require a wise compromise to avoid the Russian takeover you suggest.


    AP wrote: I doubt Russia will win, but if it were to conquer all or most of Ukraine there is at least a 30% chance that Russia would next go after the Baltics. They are too close to Russia’s second city, they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances), and they separate Russian Kaliningrad from Belarus and Russia. A successful takeover might break NATO, if NATO doesn’t respond robustly. Russia’s government has already declared for the Soviet borders (optimistically, as some sort of negotiation position, like it’s recent claim the the Alaska sale was illegal, but who knows?).
     

    Replies: @AP

    So what is a peaceful resolution to this condunrum you mention?

    Russia isn’t interested in a peaceful resolution (Lavrov just said Ukraine’s government must be replaced), so there will be none until its leadership changes their mind. And this can only be done if it’s military is stopped in Ukraine, which requires an ongoing flow of weapons to Ukraine. The purpose is to make it clear to Russia that further warfare is futile.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    If either side prevails in Ukraine the result is unstable, so my question was a thought experiment. Even if Ukraine is quickly forgotten, enormous military tension between NATO and Russia will remain. The West has created a huge mess.

    If Ukraine prevails in some sense, the West will be empowered to press Russia even harder. This pressure could be in Kaliningrad, the Caucasus or maybe North Korea. If Russia prevails in Ukraine, the leaders of the Baltics will pee in their pants and jump into the comforting arms of their NATO brothers. In this case, Russia will also be pressured in some way.

    So the requirement for Russia is to stop the West from pressuring her militarily and geopolitically. Ukraine is just the present iteration of this challenge. The mythical sensible people in the West could wake up tomorrow and simply stop doing what they are doing and work on a mutual peace. It will take decades to repair the damage intentionally inflicted by the West on the USA-Russia security relationship since 1999. Nonetheless, this healing process could start tomorrow. No one expects this to happen. The Balts should lead this effort since they have the most to lose and what they have cannot be protected by force.

    This leaves Russia various choices. One option is simply to face down the Western pressure as it appears. This always has the risk of dangerous escalation, but maybe the Russians can be philosophical about the situation. They can hope the leaders and myths in the West will change over time to something less hostile to Russia. If the trends are that Russia is gradually getting stronger and the West is gradually getting weaker this may be their best response. Alternatively, if NATO escalates sooner rather than later, Russia may want to either break up NATO politically or work with China to weaken the dollar and reduce the ability of the USA to stir up trouble.

    Only the USA dropping the anti-Russia project is a safe course. The other scenarios have the real risk of nuclear war and World War 3. The best option is for Yankee to go home and fix her border.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LondonBob

    , @Sean
    @AP


    The purpose is to make it clear to Russia that further warfare is futile.
     
    Which is not true. As long as Russia refuses to cease hostilities and recognize the borders of Ukraine, it cannot join Nato. All Russia has to do to attain its primary objective is maintain an official non-peace.

    Russia isn’t interested in a peaceful resolution ... there will be none until its leadership changes their mind. And this can only be done if it’s military is stopped in Ukraine...
     
    No matter how the military situation develops, Russia will not, can not, agree to peace in Ukraine.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  50. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    If Trump is elected and UK being out, Europe having their own security institution is quite realistic. The Washington players want to keep NATO with tooth and nail...without NATO the collective appearance of US world escapades would be gone as well as the Washington seat in Europe would be gone.

    The EU was created partly for unloading the US yoke, but EU leadership comprised of weaklings and some still admiring US "chewing gums", especially from country P.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    What is country P?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    It is not Portugal.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  51. Nuking Disney World might not be as effective as I thought because it apparently was built from the start to have plenty of tunnels.

  52. @Beckow
    @Mikel

    The point of wishful prophecies is to make them happen. We can get to nukes if people scare themselves with what Russia supposedly really wants.

    Many in Kiev who are already compromised want to bloody as many hands as possible so the consequences are chaotic and unclear....a downward spiral. But the bottom line is that a few hundred thousand Ukies have perished or ruined their lives for somebody's plan to have Ukraine in Nato. Among the most stupid sacrificial wars ever fought. This will be incomprehensible to look back at. It was so easy to avoid by simply being normal.

    Replies: @Mikel

    It’s like giving air to ground missiles to Israel and expecting that they will not use them to kill civilians. Are the Israelis even capable of refraining from killing civilians?

    Ukraine may actually be worse in some aspects. The Israelis seem to have a solid command structure but I don’t believe that the order to bomb an open market in Donetsk came from Zaluzhny or Zelensky. It’s easier to imagine that it was someone much further down who took the initiative. Because he can and because he knows that there will be no consequences, like there weren’t in all the previous years since Maidan.

    The other difference between both countries is that the Israelis don’t try to insult our intelligence time and again saying that it’s not them, it’s the Palestinians who are bombing themselves. AP couldn’t help himself and found one of those fairy tales for dimwits. It’s all so deja vu.

    In the midst of all this insanity I found the ISW report of the attack almost funny. The Institute for the Study of War, an American organization constantly used by all the respectable media as their main source of information on the war in Ukraine, published a very long daily report of how the hostilities went in all the different fronts and only at the very end they mentioned the attack on the Donetsk market under the heading “Russian Information Operations and Narratives”. Apparently, they only found it worth mentioning because the Russians were devious enough to use it as way to justify Russia’s need to achieve its military objectives in Ukraine. Of course, once they had mentioned the subject they hastened to clarify that they “cannot independently confirm the actors behind the strike”.

    Was late-stage Communism this mendacious? I think the Western MSM has already surpassed those levels and we’re headed towards Stalinist proportions of media distortion. But I can’t say for sure, my first trip to Eastern Europe was right after the fall of the Iron Curtain, around 1989 or 1990.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...someone much further down who took the initiative. Because he can...
     
    In Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer - not a very good book - a guy is being kicked out from his flat in Paris and his friend is helping him move out. He tells his friend to take a crap in the drawer...why not? I suspect there are Ukies who take these potshots because they can, they know they are leaving. So they s..t all over the place.

    This is the core point about who is right and who is wrong: the side that is willing to destroy the place, randomly kill its inhabitants, are not the good guys. Kiev Ukies went to destroy Donbas, and they would do it to Crimea if they could, and these are the heroes?


    Was late-stage Communism this mendacious? I think the Western MSM has already surpassed those levels
     
    Historical comparisons are tricky: the commie media started out being lively and ideological, they loved to argue, believed in their cause and spun narratives like mad scientists who think the truth has been intentionally hidden for centuries...it was less censorship than bullying others.

    By the time I remember them in the 80's they were in the "just-shut-up" phase - like in a middle school: elderly stodgy authority, known taboo subjects, dull reciting of the daily brief, shrugs and implied threats. They were no longer ideological, it was instead "the experts know best" mid-wit drivel. There were few consequences for having other views because other views were simply ignored.

    The Western media today combines the two in a very irritating way - the ideology is even more bizarre and the censorship by the "experts" is more pervasive. They have more energy and still have some crazy plans to implement. The latter-day commies were a tired bunch, harmless elderly losers.

    By the way, "Stalin" was such a small part of the post-WW2 socialist experience that outside of SU I don't ever recall anyone mentioning him - if they did it was with more venom than even AP. When I hear "Stalinism", it is like someone telling Americans that their life is KKK or fanatical Mormon bigamists of the late 19th century.

    , @QCIC
    @Mikel

    The Israelis do not care about killing non-Jewish civilians. Many really, really don't care while others are steeped enough in the culture that they don't care. They will only care if the repercussions are dangerous enough.

    This general situation could be true in any war, but Judaism has a very old mythology which promotes the idea that they are the chosen people and therefore can be protected at any cost. This mythology is apparently embraced by quite a few otherwise intelligent people. This makes them unique, though not in the way they believe.

    Replies: @A123

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    The other difference between both countries is that the Israelis don’t try to insult our intelligence time and again saying that it’s not them, it’s the Palestinians who are bombing themselves. AP couldn’t help himself and found one of those fairy tales for dimwits.
     
    Here is the full description of that. Feel free to debunk it:

    https://malcontentment.com/unraveling-claims-of-ukrainian-involvement-donetsk-market-attack-points-to-russian-origination/

    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.




    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.


    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.



    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.


    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.

    Still image taken from a video provided by the so-called Donetsk People's Republic showing an impact crater on Lyashenka Street indicating that a non-fragmentation round on a high arc trajectory was used, fired west-southwest of the market.

    If Ukraine were responsible, the closest safe firing location would be 24.9 kilometers away, and even in Pobieda, the Russian D-20 152-millimeter howitzer would be at its absolute maximum range. At 24.9 kilometers, the M-777 or NATO standard self-propelled artillery pieces would be at or just beyond their standard range. Because Russian officials did not share any images of shrapnel, we have no way to authenticate the munition used.


    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.


    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.

    Still image taken from a video provided by the so-called Donetsk People's Republic showing an impact crater on Lyashenka Street indicating that a non-fragmentation round on a high arc trajectory was used, fired west-southwest of the market.
    If Ukraine were responsible, the closest safe firing location would be 24.9 kilometers away, and even in Pobieda, the Russian D-20 152-millimeter howitzer would be at its absolute maximum range. At 24.9 kilometers, the M-777 or NATO standard self-propelled artillery pieces would be at or just beyond their standard range. Because Russian officials did not share any images of shrapnel, we have no way to authenticate the munition used.

    Along with the impact crater at the base of the tree on Lyashenka Street, a video recorded during the attack provided critical information on the potential distance from the area attacked and the firing point. The Russian video shared on the popular Telegram channel Typical Donetsk captured the sound of outgoing rounds that impacted 2.5 and 4.25 seconds later. If the rounds were fired from M-777 artillery with a muzzle velocity of 870 meters per second, the maximum linear distance the round could travel is 3,700 meters, deep within the city of Donetsk itself. Factoring for the arc an artillery shell travels and the minimum possible range of the M-777, the distance drops to 2,300 meters. That’s an impossibly short distance for the rounds to have been fired by Ukraine.

    https://malcontentment.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/google-maps-russian-attack-donetsk-analysis-war-crime-false-flag-war-1024x576.jpg

    The timing of the attack is also suspect, occurring while Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was en route to a UN Security Council meeting, and the U.S. Congress remains poised to discuss continued military support for Ukraine.

    The available evidence suggests that the origin of the attack was in a forested area between the Kirovs’kyi and Petrovs’kyi Districts, approximately 2,000 to 3,000 meters west of the market area. Immediate claims that any combatant committed a war crime should receive a thorough investigation before news agencies directly quote national officials and report the claims as pure fact. The intricacies of this investigation underscore the importance of a thorough and unbiased examination of available evidence by subject matter experts.

    Replies: @Mikel

  53. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    The irony is that American born Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.

    It's guilt ridden Whites like Biden that want to keep the border open.

    Most Hispanics don't want random third worlders coming across the border and they tend to not like Guatemalans, Haitians or Ecuadoreans. American born Hispanics also correctly assume their wages will be undermined with more illegals.

    Trump actually gained Hispanics in the last election. He lost independent Whites.

    The biggest advocates for open borders are Whites in Northern states that don't know what the border looks like. They have never been to the border in a state like Arizona. There are Hispanic left-wingers in California and NY but they don't represent their constituents.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.

    Probably, but is anything up to them? They are the working poor (mostly) and by the ancient Western standard they have to “earn” the right to have an opinion. If they have a wrong one it is ignored.

    At the end these ethnic distinctions will be irrelevant. The only thing that will matter is the reality on the ground – it is almost irreversible that most of the US Southwest will revert to its “pre-colonist” past with all the consequences.

    Thanks to the short 150-year intermezzo by the Euro colonists the lands have been built up and there will be 50-100 times as many people there – the great achievement of the Western Euros will be to make it possible for the assorted Third World natives to massively multiply and flood the earth. Just as they were told in the good book…:)

    Is that all the greatest civilization that ever was will leave behind? A few billion short, swarthy, fat, diabetic, sub-85 IQ losers? How do you run the world with people like that?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.
     
    Probably, but is anything up to them? They are the working poor (mostly) and by the ancient Western standard they have to “earn” the right to have an opinion. If they have a wrong one it is ignored.

    The majority of Whites and Hispanics are ignored by both parties. I'm just pointing out an irony.

    At the end these ethnic distinctions will be irrelevant. The only thing that will matter is the reality on the ground – it is almost irreversible that most of the US Southwest will revert to its “pre-colonist” past with all the consequences.

    I don't know what you mean by that. New Mexico already has majority Hispanic rule. They didn't adopt some racial left-wing ideology. American born Hispanics are actually pretty moderate. They are both majority Democrat and Catholic. In fact they clash with pro-abortion White liberals but that is kept out of the MSM. White liberals in cities like LA are much more anti-gun than Hispanics. Liberals ignore the will of Democrat Hispanics.

    the great achievement of the Western Euros will be to make it possible for the assorted Third World natives to massively multiply and flood the earth. Just as they were told in the good book

    No it will be more like Brazil 2 but the Whites won't be as mixed. Enclaves of Whites with a Hispanic majority. It will however be amusing to watch liberal Whites explain why Whites can't be a minority or act collectively.

    Is that all the greatest civilization that ever was will leave behind? A few billion short, swarthy, fat, diabetic, sub-85 IQ losers? How do you run the world with people like that?

    If Putin had grown up around Guatemalans he'd probably have some confidence.

    Have a look at NYC demographics and especially the schools. It's already White minority and the stock market keeps ticking. NYC research firms continue their work. Not the end of the world. Whites work office jobs in Manhattan and then go home to the burbs in NJ. Is what it is.

    Both parties were never serious about the border. Republicans for years looked the other way for the sake of big AG. They are currently better than the Democrats but there was a long period where neither side wanted to do anything.

    Not my decision and my kids won't have to worry about it.

    Replies: @Beckow

  54. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Do you listen to any of these? Nothing really catches my fancy.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    No, I don’t. Sorry that I thus can’t help you out more here.

    Have you ever read Peter Zeihan’s work on China? Or listened to him talk about China?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Have you ever read Peter Zeihan’s work on China?
     
    Yes, he is amusing in some ways occasionally, but certainly too much of a doomer on China.

    Can't help but feel that it is part of his spiel to his target audience - the Beltway.

    Geography, which is one of his specialties, really plays into China containment and American triumphalism. At least, in the context of the status quo and blank-slatism.

    What I can't quite figure out is how his post-American global order plays to the Beltway audience, unless as a kind of warning or call to arms.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  55. Removing 99% of Hamas is a defeat for Israel?

    Removing 99% of a tumor is not a success.

    It’s not a tumor. It’s a political group and they will no longer have control over their territory. That’s a loss.

    Their Iranian weapons aren’t even working against IDF tanks due to the trophy armor.

    A bunch of geniuses that couldn’t think of a better plan other than rape 18 year olds and kidnap children.

    Yes, it is. Antisemitism is higher now than it has been at any time post WW2. The entire Arab Islamic world sees what Hamas did on Oct 7th as heroic and so do hundreds of millions, if not billions, of other people all around the world.

    Anyone that cheers gunning down 18 year old girls or entire families in the burbs is a loser.

    The entire Islamic world does not view Hamas as heroic. Support for Hamas is the same which is drawn along Shia/Sunni lines. Egypt had to be pressured to take some of them in and provide aid. Hezbollah never opened a front as Ritter predicted. Iran was bombed by Isis over their inaction. Jordan shrugged as usual. The majority of the Arab world will complain about Israel and then won’t lift a finger to help Hamas.

    Hamas doesn’t care about how many fighters it has lost: literally the only reason a young man joins Hamas is because he wants to get killed.

    Yes they target incels. Hamas offers them to the chance to rape and kill before being sent to the afterlife. Oh and the genius gentlemen league decided to use GoPros. Let’s make sure the world sees what losers we are.

    Israel however will not hand Gaza back to them and their main leader was already killed.

    It is going to get 10s of billions of dollars worth of aid that will allow it to rebuild it’s tunnels and its arsenal.

    Hilarious. Tens of billions to Hamas? Where is that going to come from? You think Israel is going to let Hamas back in power and they will get tens of billion in aid? So the remaining Hamas members will get rich? Funniest joke of the day.

    • Replies: @Greasy William
    @John Johnson


    Anyone that cheers gunning down 18 year old girls or entire families in the burbs is a loser.
     
    Yes, Arab/Muslims are losers, exactly. Jews and Arabs share the same father in Abraham but our (Jews) mother was the lady of the house and their mother was just a slave. Ishmael knows that he is living on borrowed time before the natural state of the world is restored, hence his bottomless anger and hatred

    The entire Islamic world does not view Hamas as heroic
     
    Yes they do and only someone who doesn't know many Arabs/Muslims could think otherwise. Support for the Oct 7th attacks in the Arab Islamic world approaches 100% and the few who are opposed are regarded as Uncle Ahmad's by their Arab brethren. Furthermore, the Oct 7 attacks are supported by hundreds of millions of Latin Americans, Asians and western leftists.

    Hezbollah never opened a front as Ritter predicted
     
    What is your obsession with Ritter? He is a disgraced pervert who preaches his nonsense to a small audience of alienated, lonely, western weirdos. He's an idiot. Even this community's Russian partisans regard him as an irrelevant ignoramus.

    The majority of the Arab world will complain about Israel and then won’t lift a finger to help Hamas
     
    Because Arabs/Muslims are cowards by nature who have a huge sense of entitlement: why should ~they~ die to protect the Palestinians? Someone else should do that for them! That is seriously how they think. This is what happens when you give freedom to a race of slaves.

    Yes they target incels.
     
    You don't know the type of guy that joins Hamas or Hezbollah. These are not incels. They are very tough, very masculine young men. Often they are also very charismatic. They can be amateurish fighters and on a moral level they are the lowest of the low, but they aren't incels.

    Israel however will not hand Gaza back to them
     
    Oh yes it will. The only reason it hasn't done so already is because of the hostages, otherwise Israel would have already surrendered like it always does. Like Nasrallah said, Israel is weak as a spider's web.

    Once a deal is worked out to get the hostages back, Israel will begin the process of leaving Gaza, although it will likely be a lengthy process.

    Hilarious. Tens of billions to Hamas? Where is that going to come from?
     
    The United States, like always. The EU will of course also chip in. The West has been subsidizing this race of criminals since 1949. Technically the aid will be to rebuild Gaza, but in practice most of it will go into the coffers of Hamas. We know this will happen because this is what happened after all of the previous Gaza clashes.

    Replies: @A123

  56. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    No, I don't. Sorry that I thus can't help you out more here.

    Have you ever read Peter Zeihan's work on China? Or listened to him talk about China?

    Replies: @songbird

    Have you ever read Peter Zeihan’s work on China?

    Yes, he is amusing in some ways occasionally, but certainly too much of a doomer on China.

    Can’t help but feel that it is part of his spiel to his target audience – the Beltway.

    Geography, which is one of his specialties, really plays into China containment and American triumphalism. At least, in the context of the status quo and blank-slatism.

    What I can’t quite figure out is how his post-American global order plays to the Beltway audience, unless as a kind of warning or call to arms.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    If he's a doomer on China, then what exactly does his argument in regards to the post-American order consist of? After all, isn't China the main challenger to the West? Russia certainly can't do it by itself, at least not short of nuclear war. The EU won't replace the US and in any case prefers to work side-by-side with the US. Who else is left? India? But its human capital levels are too low, even with its Brahmin smart fraction.

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

  57. @AP
    @QCIC


    So what is a peaceful resolution to this condunrum you mention?
     
    Russia isn't interested in a peaceful resolution (Lavrov just said Ukraine's government must be replaced), so there will be none until its leadership changes their mind. And this can only be done if it's military is stopped in Ukraine, which requires an ongoing flow of weapons to Ukraine. The purpose is to make it clear to Russia that further warfare is futile.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean

    If either side prevails in Ukraine the result is unstable, so my question was a thought experiment. Even if Ukraine is quickly forgotten, enormous military tension between NATO and Russia will remain. The West has created a huge mess.

    If Ukraine prevails in some sense, the West will be empowered to press Russia even harder. This pressure could be in Kaliningrad, the Caucasus or maybe North Korea. If Russia prevails in Ukraine, the leaders of the Baltics will pee in their pants and jump into the comforting arms of their NATO brothers. In this case, Russia will also be pressured in some way.

    So the requirement for Russia is to stop the West from pressuring her militarily and geopolitically. Ukraine is just the present iteration of this challenge. The mythical sensible people in the West could wake up tomorrow and simply stop doing what they are doing and work on a mutual peace. It will take decades to repair the damage intentionally inflicted by the West on the USA-Russia security relationship since 1999. Nonetheless, this healing process could start tomorrow. No one expects this to happen. The Balts should lead this effort since they have the most to lose and what they have cannot be protected by force.

    This leaves Russia various choices. One option is simply to face down the Western pressure as it appears. This always has the risk of dangerous escalation, but maybe the Russians can be philosophical about the situation. They can hope the leaders and myths in the West will change over time to something less hostile to Russia. If the trends are that Russia is gradually getting stronger and the West is gradually getting weaker this may be their best response. Alternatively, if NATO escalates sooner rather than later, Russia may want to either break up NATO politically or work with China to weaken the dollar and reduce the ability of the USA to stir up trouble.

    Only the USA dropping the anti-Russia project is a safe course. The other scenarios have the real risk of nuclear war and World War 3. The best option is for Yankee to go home and fix her border.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...Only the USA dropping the anti-Russia project is a safe course. The other scenarios have the real risk of nuclear war and World War 3. The best option is for Yankee to go home and fix her border.
     
    They can't - they are in too deep. It has become a biological unthinking part of their brains, "Oh, they wouldn't let you say that in Russia!", know-nothing ignoramuses (JJ is a good example) whose minds are on an auto-pilot. They are all like Biden, demented people who can't see reality because it would devalue all they have been all of their lives - at best they are like Macron, smarter but pathologically compromised by who they are, willing to play a part because they have no other choice.

    There is no safe course, there never was, it just got worse in the last few years. But all we have to do is survive today, the ambition for world peace or "friendship" is pointless.

    The combination of geography, mistakes, misunderstood history, weakness, ethnic hysteria has made this into an unsolvable problem. The West wants Russia to do it a favor and collapse - but even that may not get us out of the situation. If the West loses (when) their best option is to pretend that it didn't happen - but that has even worse consequences in the long run.

    I think we are f...ed...my best thought is that expected disasters never happen, so maybe that's our salvation...

    , @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    The US has so many problems at home, at some point they will turn inwards, without US promotion of anti-Russian positions then these will inevitably die away, it is all so artificial.

    Once the Russians have sealed victory there is very little that can be done, the disparity between Russia and the rest of Europe is a chasm now, militarily speaking. Europe is also quickly plunging in to the abyss with the economic, political and social problems.

  58. @Mikel
    @Beckow

    It's like giving air to ground missiles to Israel and expecting that they will not use them to kill civilians. Are the Israelis even capable of refraining from killing civilians?

    Ukraine may actually be worse in some aspects. The Israelis seem to have a solid command structure but I don't believe that the order to bomb an open market in Donetsk came from Zaluzhny or Zelensky. It's easier to imagine that it was someone much further down who took the initiative. Because he can and because he knows that there will be no consequences, like there weren't in all the previous years since Maidan.

    The other difference between both countries is that the Israelis don't try to insult our intelligence time and again saying that it's not them, it's the Palestinians who are bombing themselves. AP couldn't help himself and found one of those fairy tales for dimwits. It's all so deja vu.

    In the midst of all this insanity I found the ISW report of the attack almost funny. The Institute for the Study of War, an American organization constantly used by all the respectable media as their main source of information on the war in Ukraine, published a very long daily report of how the hostilities went in all the different fronts and only at the very end they mentioned the attack on the Donetsk market under the heading "Russian Information Operations and Narratives". Apparently, they only found it worth mentioning because the Russians were devious enough to use it as way to justify Russia’s need to achieve its military objectives in Ukraine. Of course, once they had mentioned the subject they hastened to clarify that they "cannot independently confirm the actors behind the strike".

    Was late-stage Communism this mendacious? I think the Western MSM has already surpassed those levels and we're headed towards Stalinist proportions of media distortion. But I can't say for sure, my first trip to Eastern Europe was right after the fall of the Iron Curtain, around 1989 or 1990.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @AP

    …someone much further down who took the initiative. Because he can…

    In Henry Miller’s Tropic of Cancer – not a very good book – a guy is being kicked out from his flat in Paris and his friend is helping him move out. He tells his friend to take a crap in the drawer…why not? I suspect there are Ukies who take these potshots because they can, they know they are leaving. So they s..t all over the place.

    This is the core point about who is right and who is wrong: the side that is willing to destroy the place, randomly kill its inhabitants, are not the good guys. Kiev Ukies went to destroy Donbas, and they would do it to Crimea if they could, and these are the heroes?

    Was late-stage Communism this mendacious? I think the Western MSM has already surpassed those levels

    Historical comparisons are tricky: the commie media started out being lively and ideological, they loved to argue, believed in their cause and spun narratives like mad scientists who think the truth has been intentionally hidden for centuries…it was less censorship than bullying others.

    By the time I remember them in the 80’s they were in the “just-shut-up” phase – like in a middle school: elderly stodgy authority, known taboo subjects, dull reciting of the daily brief, shrugs and implied threats. They were no longer ideological, it was instead “the experts know best” mid-wit drivel. There were few consequences for having other views because other views were simply ignored.

    The Western media today combines the two in a very irritating way – the ideology is even more bizarre and the censorship by the “experts” is more pervasive. They have more energy and still have some crazy plans to implement. The latter-day commies were a tired bunch, harmless elderly losers.

    By the way, “Stalin” was such a small part of the post-WW2 socialist experience that outside of SU I don’t ever recall anyone mentioning him – if they did it was with more venom than even AP. When I hear “Stalinism”, it is like someone telling Americans that their life is KKK or fanatical Mormon bigamists of the late 19th century.

  59. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.
     
    Probably, but is anything up to them? They are the working poor (mostly) and by the ancient Western standard they have to "earn" the right to have an opinion. If they have a wrong one it is ignored.

    At the end these ethnic distinctions will be irrelevant. The only thing that will matter is the reality on the ground - it is almost irreversible that most of the US Southwest will revert to its "pre-colonist" past with all the consequences.

    Thanks to the short 150-year intermezzo by the Euro colonists the lands have been built up and there will be 50-100 times as many people there - the great achievement of the Western Euros will be to make it possible for the assorted Third World natives to massively multiply and flood the earth. Just as they were told in the good book...:)

    Is that all the greatest civilization that ever was will leave behind? A few billion short, swarthy, fat, diabetic, sub-85 IQ losers? How do you run the world with people like that?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    …Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.

    Probably, but is anything up to them? They are the working poor (mostly) and by the ancient Western standard they have to “earn” the right to have an opinion. If they have a wrong one it is ignored.

    The majority of Whites and Hispanics are ignored by both parties. I’m just pointing out an irony.

    At the end these ethnic distinctions will be irrelevant. The only thing that will matter is the reality on the ground – it is almost irreversible that most of the US Southwest will revert to its “pre-colonist” past with all the consequences.

    I don’t know what you mean by that. New Mexico already has majority Hispanic rule. They didn’t adopt some racial left-wing ideology. American born Hispanics are actually pretty moderate. They are both majority Democrat and Catholic. In fact they clash with pro-abortion White liberals but that is kept out of the MSM. White liberals in cities like LA are much more anti-gun than Hispanics. Liberals ignore the will of Democrat Hispanics.

    the great achievement of the Western Euros will be to make it possible for the assorted Third World natives to massively multiply and flood the earth. Just as they were told in the good book

    No it will be more like Brazil 2 but the Whites won’t be as mixed. Enclaves of Whites with a Hispanic majority. It will however be amusing to watch liberal Whites explain why Whites can’t be a minority or act collectively.

    Is that all the greatest civilization that ever was will leave behind? A few billion short, swarthy, fat, diabetic, sub-85 IQ losers? How do you run the world with people like that?

    If Putin had grown up around Guatemalans he’d probably have some confidence.

    Have a look at NYC demographics and especially the schools. It’s already White minority and the stock market keeps ticking. NYC research firms continue their work. Not the end of the world. Whites work office jobs in Manhattan and then go home to the burbs in NJ. Is what it is.

    Both parties were never serious about the border. Republicans for years looked the other way for the sake of big AG. They are currently better than the Democrats but there was a long period where neither side wanted to do anything.

    Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.

    • LOL: LondonBob
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.
     
    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that...You have moved into escapism and 'just live with it' attitude. The stuff about the "market is still up" - you should know that anything reflecting real values in times of money devaluation is always up. It is on the level of eating a steak and listening to the orchestra on the Titanic. Sure, there will be a boat for you, but the lifestyle is gone.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative - it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run. You got cornered, so you try to make the best out of it - and sure, they are good people. But what you had, what created a rather attractive society and economy for a few generations is disappearing. Same in Europe with different players.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that's the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    The obsession that the struggling Euro-Atlantic countries have with attacking Russia instead of fixing their own internal problems is very odd. What do you care how tall is Putin? Or what language is taught in "Lugansk"? It is pathological - the willful escape into belated imperium expansion instead of making the lives at home better.

    What is worse is that from the start this was a bridge too far. The only scenario where the irrational Western attack on Russia through Ukraine - that's what this is - could succeed is a complete military defeat of Russia. That is simply not possible, get it through your thick head - it is also not possible to completely defeat US or China. So why do a fool's errand destined to fail? You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up. It looks like it can't be corrected at this point. Maybe go for the nukes? Would the Hispanics in New Mexico approve?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson, @AP

  60. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Have you ever read Peter Zeihan’s work on China?
     
    Yes, he is amusing in some ways occasionally, but certainly too much of a doomer on China.

    Can't help but feel that it is part of his spiel to his target audience - the Beltway.

    Geography, which is one of his specialties, really plays into China containment and American triumphalism. At least, in the context of the status quo and blank-slatism.

    What I can't quite figure out is how his post-American global order plays to the Beltway audience, unless as a kind of warning or call to arms.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    If he’s a doomer on China, then what exactly does his argument in regards to the post-American order consist of? After all, isn’t China the main challenger to the West? Russia certainly can’t do it by itself, at least not short of nuclear war. The EU won’t replace the US and in any case prefers to work side-by-side with the US. Who else is left? India? But its human capital levels are too low, even with its Brahmin smart fraction.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    What does Zeihan have to say about 'The Singularity'?

    , @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    If he’s a doomer on China, then what exactly does his argument in regards to the post-American order consist of? After all, isn’t China the main challenger to the West? Russia certainly can’t do it by itself, at least not short of nuclear war.
     
    He's a doomer on Russia too. Says something like the Russian people will cease to exist in 30-40 years (may forget the exact timeline.)

    He basically says America will turn inward and still be prosperous due to its providential geography and ability to interface with Mexico. (Actually Mexican fertility seems to be plummeting). But status quo globalism will be dead. Think he is still predicting mass famine in many parts of the world.

    He thinks there will be regional powers. France because it has good agricultural land and can build tractors. Turkey. Nigeria. India, maybe a few others. With a lot of piracy in-between.

    Sounds kind of fantastical in some ways. Don't see why it requires a big American navy to stamp out pirates.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  61. @Mikel
    @Beckow

    It's like giving air to ground missiles to Israel and expecting that they will not use them to kill civilians. Are the Israelis even capable of refraining from killing civilians?

    Ukraine may actually be worse in some aspects. The Israelis seem to have a solid command structure but I don't believe that the order to bomb an open market in Donetsk came from Zaluzhny or Zelensky. It's easier to imagine that it was someone much further down who took the initiative. Because he can and because he knows that there will be no consequences, like there weren't in all the previous years since Maidan.

    The other difference between both countries is that the Israelis don't try to insult our intelligence time and again saying that it's not them, it's the Palestinians who are bombing themselves. AP couldn't help himself and found one of those fairy tales for dimwits. It's all so deja vu.

    In the midst of all this insanity I found the ISW report of the attack almost funny. The Institute for the Study of War, an American organization constantly used by all the respectable media as their main source of information on the war in Ukraine, published a very long daily report of how the hostilities went in all the different fronts and only at the very end they mentioned the attack on the Donetsk market under the heading "Russian Information Operations and Narratives". Apparently, they only found it worth mentioning because the Russians were devious enough to use it as way to justify Russia’s need to achieve its military objectives in Ukraine. Of course, once they had mentioned the subject they hastened to clarify that they "cannot independently confirm the actors behind the strike".

    Was late-stage Communism this mendacious? I think the Western MSM has already surpassed those levels and we're headed towards Stalinist proportions of media distortion. But I can't say for sure, my first trip to Eastern Europe was right after the fall of the Iron Curtain, around 1989 or 1990.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @AP

    The Israelis do not care about killing non-Jewish civilians. Many really, really don’t care while others are steeped enough in the culture that they don’t care. They will only care if the repercussions are dangerous enough.

    This general situation could be true in any war, but Judaism has a very old mythology which promotes the idea that they are the chosen people and therefore can be protected at any cost. This mythology is apparently embraced by quite a few otherwise intelligent people. This makes them unique, though not in the way they believe.

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    The Israelis do not care about killing non-Jewish civilians.
    ...
    They will only care if the repercussions are dangerous enough.

     
    The reverse is true. Excessive fear of repercussions warped policy. In recent years, Palestinian Jews have cared far too much about non-Jewish civilians. Iranian Hamas, Iranian Hezbollah, and other terror groups figured this out. This why the violent Jihadists started prolifically using their own women & children as human shields.

    What has changed? Israelis have returned to historical, internationally accepted norms. IslamoGloboHomo institutions (e.g.UN, ICC, ICJ) cannot deliver repercussions. Instead they have been reduced to pathetic, ignored bodies receiving well earned scorn and derision. South Africa's involvement is particularly laughable.

    Palestinian Jews are striking military targets with appropriate & necessary military force. This means that deep tunnels are destroyed by 2,000 lb penetrators. Under international law and the rules of war, Hamas bears 100% responsibility when a human shield dies due to their misconduct.

    PEACE 😇
  62. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    If he's a doomer on China, then what exactly does his argument in regards to the post-American order consist of? After all, isn't China the main challenger to the West? Russia certainly can't do it by itself, at least not short of nuclear war. The EU won't replace the US and in any case prefers to work side-by-side with the US. Who else is left? India? But its human capital levels are too low, even with its Brahmin smart fraction.

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    What does Zeihan have to say about ‘The Singularity’?

  63. @QCIC
    @AP

    If either side prevails in Ukraine the result is unstable, so my question was a thought experiment. Even if Ukraine is quickly forgotten, enormous military tension between NATO and Russia will remain. The West has created a huge mess.

    If Ukraine prevails in some sense, the West will be empowered to press Russia even harder. This pressure could be in Kaliningrad, the Caucasus or maybe North Korea. If Russia prevails in Ukraine, the leaders of the Baltics will pee in their pants and jump into the comforting arms of their NATO brothers. In this case, Russia will also be pressured in some way.

    So the requirement for Russia is to stop the West from pressuring her militarily and geopolitically. Ukraine is just the present iteration of this challenge. The mythical sensible people in the West could wake up tomorrow and simply stop doing what they are doing and work on a mutual peace. It will take decades to repair the damage intentionally inflicted by the West on the USA-Russia security relationship since 1999. Nonetheless, this healing process could start tomorrow. No one expects this to happen. The Balts should lead this effort since they have the most to lose and what they have cannot be protected by force.

    This leaves Russia various choices. One option is simply to face down the Western pressure as it appears. This always has the risk of dangerous escalation, but maybe the Russians can be philosophical about the situation. They can hope the leaders and myths in the West will change over time to something less hostile to Russia. If the trends are that Russia is gradually getting stronger and the West is gradually getting weaker this may be their best response. Alternatively, if NATO escalates sooner rather than later, Russia may want to either break up NATO politically or work with China to weaken the dollar and reduce the ability of the USA to stir up trouble.

    Only the USA dropping the anti-Russia project is a safe course. The other scenarios have the real risk of nuclear war and World War 3. The best option is for Yankee to go home and fix her border.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LondonBob

    …Only the USA dropping the anti-Russia project is a safe course. The other scenarios have the real risk of nuclear war and World War 3. The best option is for Yankee to go home and fix her border.

    They can’t – they are in too deep. It has become a biological unthinking part of their brains, “Oh, they wouldn’t let you say that in Russia!“, know-nothing ignoramuses (JJ is a good example) whose minds are on an auto-pilot. They are all like Biden, demented people who can’t see reality because it would devalue all they have been all of their lives – at best they are like Macron, smarter but pathologically compromised by who they are, willing to play a part because they have no other choice.

    There is no safe course, there never was, it just got worse in the last few years. But all we have to do is survive today, the ambition for world peace or “friendship” is pointless.

    The combination of geography, mistakes, misunderstood history, weakness, ethnic hysteria has made this into an unsolvable problem. The West wants Russia to do it a favor and collapse – but even that may not get us out of the situation. If the West loses (when) their best option is to pretend that it didn’t happen – but that has even worse consequences in the long run.

    I think we are f…ed…my best thought is that expected disasters never happen, so maybe that’s our salvation…

  64. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    If he's a doomer on China, then what exactly does his argument in regards to the post-American order consist of? After all, isn't China the main challenger to the West? Russia certainly can't do it by itself, at least not short of nuclear war. The EU won't replace the US and in any case prefers to work side-by-side with the US. Who else is left? India? But its human capital levels are too low, even with its Brahmin smart fraction.

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    If he’s a doomer on China, then what exactly does his argument in regards to the post-American order consist of? After all, isn’t China the main challenger to the West? Russia certainly can’t do it by itself, at least not short of nuclear war.

    He’s a doomer on Russia too. Says something like the Russian people will cease to exist in 30-40 years (may forget the exact timeline.)

    He basically says America will turn inward and still be prosperous due to its providential geography and ability to interface with Mexico. (Actually Mexican fertility seems to be plummeting). But status quo globalism will be dead. Think he is still predicting mass famine in many parts of the world.

    He thinks there will be regional powers. France because it has good agricultural land and can build tractors. Turkey. Nigeria. India, maybe a few others. With a lot of piracy in-between.

    Sounds kind of fantastical in some ways. Don’t see why it requires a big American navy to stamp out pirates.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Why can't America turn inward in relation to the non-GAE world but nevertheless continue focusing on GAE (the Greater American Empire)? The US's relations with the EU, the Gulf states, and pro-US East Asia remain very important, after all.

    Replies: @songbird

  65. @QCIC
    @Mikel

    The Israelis do not care about killing non-Jewish civilians. Many really, really don't care while others are steeped enough in the culture that they don't care. They will only care if the repercussions are dangerous enough.

    This general situation could be true in any war, but Judaism has a very old mythology which promotes the idea that they are the chosen people and therefore can be protected at any cost. This mythology is apparently embraced by quite a few otherwise intelligent people. This makes them unique, though not in the way they believe.

    Replies: @A123

    The Israelis do not care about killing non-Jewish civilians.

    They will only care if the repercussions are dangerous enough.

    The reverse is true. Excessive fear of repercussions warped policy. In recent years, Palestinian Jews have cared far too much about non-Jewish civilians. Iranian Hamas, Iranian Hezbollah, and other terror groups figured this out. This why the violent Jihadists started prolifically using their own women & children as human shields.

    What has changed? Israelis have returned to historical, internationally accepted norms. IslamoGloboHomo institutions (e.g.UN, ICC, ICJ) cannot deliver repercussions. Instead they have been reduced to pathetic, ignored bodies receiving well earned scorn and derision. South Africa’s involvement is particularly laughable.

    Palestinian Jews are striking military targets with appropriate & necessary military force. This means that deep tunnels are destroyed by 2,000 lb penetrators. Under international law and the rules of war, Hamas bears 100% responsibility when a human shield dies due to their misconduct.

    PEACE 😇

  66. @songbird
    Anyone know any good China podcasts?

    Am struggling to find even what would be considered the official news. Surprising, thought they spent a lot of money on English-language AM radio stations, etc.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    You aren’t gonna get the fun stuff in English. This one has some of the scenes in Russian

    1. Zelensky was giving speech at UN, because no one showed up, so Ukrainian TV put in an astroturfed cut with more people in audience, except they botched it and Zelensky was in the audience simultaneously.

    2. Blinken came to White House for trick-and-treat and dressed up his son as Zelensky, but it looked so stupid because it implied Zelensky is always there to beg for money.

    This one is about Putin’s possible Jewish heritage. Because Chinese Putin fanboys are like Zelensky is a Jew, Jew this Jew that– except Putin is probably also

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Zelensky is a Jew
     
    As far as the clown and Kolomoisky are concerned, their Jewishness is irrelevant. Their defining characteristics are that both are criminals, thieves and murderers. They are JINOs: Jews in name only.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Derer
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    This one is about Putin’s possible Jewish heritage.
     
    Lost in translation.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @A123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate. Does this look Jewish to you?

     
    https://i0.wp.com/gdb.rferl.org/8EF4874F-A14F-48C8-9331-55B8D2CAF561_w640_s.jpg
     

    Zelensky went to Israel to intentionally offend Palestinian Jews. This was most noted by Likud and the religious parties. They called out anti-Semite Zelensky for his evil (1).

    Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  67. @AP
    @QCIC


    So what is a peaceful resolution to this condunrum you mention?
     
    Russia isn't interested in a peaceful resolution (Lavrov just said Ukraine's government must be replaced), so there will be none until its leadership changes their mind. And this can only be done if it's military is stopped in Ukraine, which requires an ongoing flow of weapons to Ukraine. The purpose is to make it clear to Russia that further warfare is futile.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean

    The purpose is to make it clear to Russia that further warfare is futile.

    Which is not true. As long as Russia refuses to cease hostilities and recognize the borders of Ukraine, it cannot join Nato. All Russia has to do to attain its primary objective is maintain an official non-peace.

    Russia isn’t interested in a peaceful resolution … there will be none until its leadership changes their mind. And this can only be done if it’s military is stopped in Ukraine…

    No matter how the military situation develops, Russia will not, can not, agree to peace in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Sean

    So, essentially, we get a Korea-style situation in Ukraine, possibly for decades? That could suit Ukraine since Korea's DMZ has been stable for several decades. In theory, this wouldn't even preclude the possibility of US/Western troops in unoccupied Ukraine if they will ever be deemed necessary to help keep the peace, even without NATO. We've had troops in South Korea for several decades, after all.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean

  68. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    You aren't gonna get the fun stuff in English. This one has some of the scenes in Russian

    1. Zelensky was giving speech at UN, because no one showed up, so Ukrainian TV put in an astroturfed cut with more people in audience, except they botched it and Zelensky was in the audience simultaneously.

    2. Blinken came to White House for trick-and-treat and dressed up his son as Zelensky, but it looked so stupid because it implied Zelensky is always there to beg for money.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp54PbHfoDU

    This one is about Putin's possible Jewish heritage. Because Chinese Putin fanboys are like Zelensky is a Jew, Jew this Jew that-- except Putin is probably also

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eiBLXVGfHU

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer, @A123

    Zelensky is a Jew

    As far as the clown and Kolomoisky are concerned, their Jewishness is irrelevant. Their defining characteristics are that both are criminals, thieves and murderers. They are JINOs: Jews in name only.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    Somewhat true, though there seems to be a worldwide network of elite criminals with similarly irrelevant Jewish heritage ;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  69. @A123
    @Greasy William


    Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed.
     
    It is obvious that Hamas is going to be removed. The kidnapper/terrorists are cut off from resupply and are being killed off at a 20:1 rate. This will be a victory for Palestinian Jews.

    The Veggie-In-Chief sent Blinken to intervene on Hamas's behalf. Netanyahu refused to cooperate (see #18). This is another personal blow to the feeble White House occupant, but it does not spill over to the rest of the country.

    Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre
     
    Iran was behind the Oct 7 massacre.

    While the diversion of international attention away from Ukraine was helpful, there has yet to be any evidence that Russia was involved.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Derer

    This will be a victory for Palestinian Jews.

    Where did you get that term? Those are European Joos or Israel Joos.

    It is obvious that Hamas is going to be removed.

    No. Israel is tiny vulnerable religious country surrounded by the “ocean” of Islam. Hamas is not alone. Hezbollah is armed to the teeth, Iraq is now run by the pro-Iran Shia (thanks to younger Shrub). The exodus is starting – Florida is the place.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Derer

    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years; Christianity started there ~2,000 years ago.

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    -- 400 BC?
    -- 200 BC?
    -- 0 AD/BC?
    -- 200 AD?
    -- 400 AD?

    The corrects answer is ZERO. The non-Palestinian religion of Islam arrived with Muhammad the Settler Prophet ~600 AD. Non-Palestinian Muslim colonists have been a scourge to the area for ~1,400 years.

    Palestinian Jews have hundreds of nuclear weapons, and their foes do not. The "official" estimates of only 200-300 are laughably low. Despite the geography, the followers of Muhammad the Settler can do very little. Deranged aggression would almost surely result in full planetary extinction of the human race.

    Sociopath Khamenei may be unhinged enough to try for events described in the Book of Revelation. There is no sign of any other leader in the region that detached from reality.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird, @Derer

  70. @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    What is country P?

    Replies: @Derer

    It is not Portugal.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    Palestine!

    Replies: @Derer

  71. SANCTIONS WONT DO ANYTHING

    TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. MY IMAGINATION HAS DECIDED THAT RUSSIA IS A SUPER FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE CANNOT BE WRONG.

  72. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    You aren't gonna get the fun stuff in English. This one has some of the scenes in Russian

    1. Zelensky was giving speech at UN, because no one showed up, so Ukrainian TV put in an astroturfed cut with more people in audience, except they botched it and Zelensky was in the audience simultaneously.

    2. Blinken came to White House for trick-and-treat and dressed up his son as Zelensky, but it looked so stupid because it implied Zelensky is always there to beg for money.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp54PbHfoDU

    This one is about Putin's possible Jewish heritage. Because Chinese Putin fanboys are like Zelensky is a Jew, Jew this Jew that-- except Putin is probably also

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eiBLXVGfHU

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer, @A123

    This one is about Putin’s possible Jewish heritage.

    Lost in translation.

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Derer

    The video shows a copy of his documents where his mother is ID'ed as Jew Еврей

    https://i.postimg.cc/wjfbfz0J/Sukuri-nshotto-1.png

    There's something his one-time patron being Jew oligarch Berezovsky. There's also a Georgian woman saying at the end that she's his real mother.

    At the end it'd kind of immaterial just like Lenin's Jewish ancestry. He as tsar can identify as whatever that suits him. That's what the video is about.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Gerard1234

  73. @Derer
    @A123


    This will be a victory for Palestinian Jews.
     
    Where did you get that term? Those are European Joos or Israel Joos.

    It is obvious that Hamas is going to be removed.
     
    No. Israel is tiny vulnerable religious country surrounded by the "ocean" of Islam. Hamas is not alone. Hezbollah is armed to the teeth, Iraq is now run by the pro-Iran Shia (thanks to younger Shrub). The exodus is starting - Florida is the place.

    Replies: @A123

    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years; Christianity started there ~2,000 years ago.

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    — 400 BC?
    — 200 BC?
    — 0 AD/BC?
    — 200 AD?
    — 400 AD?

    The corrects answer is ZERO. The non-Palestinian religion of Islam arrived with Muhammad the Settler Prophet ~600 AD. Non-Palestinian Muslim colonists have been a scourge to the area for ~1,400 years.

    Palestinian Jews have hundreds of nuclear weapons, and their foes do not. The “official” estimates of only 200-300 are laughably low. Despite the geography, the followers of Muhammad the Settler can do very little. Deranged aggression would almost surely result in full planetary extinction of the human race.

    Sociopath Khamenei may be unhinged enough to try for events described in the Book of Revelation. There is no sign of any other leader in the region that detached from reality.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    — 400 BC?

    Yea but that was before the new rules were handed to a single prophet. Then he later ascended to heaven on a flying horse.

    Out:
    Most European art
    Religious tolerance
    Dogs indoors
    Black dogs
    Peeing in any direction
    One wife per man

    In:
    Killing non-believers
    Taking sex slaves in war
    Geometric art
    Strict rules for clean feet
    Child marriage
    New rules for peeing and taking a shit

    I don't see any problems at all. Seems reasonable. An omnipotent being simply decided that he no longer thinks dogs should be inside and especially not black ones. Doesn't sound made up at all.

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    , @songbird
    @A123


    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years;
     
    The Jewish ethnic group may be that old, but am not sure that the archeology suggests widespread monotheism at such an early date.

    Tel Arid and Elephantine Island both suggest polytheism, IIRC.

    They were eating a lot of catfish in Judea in the first half of the first Millennium BC.

    https://www.thejc.com/judaism/how-old-is-judaism-the-answer-might-be-younger-than-you-think-i3d4otji

    Replies: @A123

    , @Derer
    @A123

    That 3000 year old Judaism does not play any role for today ME. Unfortunately, the Judaism attracted only 16 millions for 3000 years while constantly changing address (left Palestine) and Islam attracted billion+. Avery tribe was nomadic not only Muslims.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  74. @A123
    @Derer

    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years; Christianity started there ~2,000 years ago.

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    -- 400 BC?
    -- 200 BC?
    -- 0 AD/BC?
    -- 200 AD?
    -- 400 AD?

    The corrects answer is ZERO. The non-Palestinian religion of Islam arrived with Muhammad the Settler Prophet ~600 AD. Non-Palestinian Muslim colonists have been a scourge to the area for ~1,400 years.

    Palestinian Jews have hundreds of nuclear weapons, and their foes do not. The "official" estimates of only 200-300 are laughably low. Despite the geography, the followers of Muhammad the Settler can do very little. Deranged aggression would almost surely result in full planetary extinction of the human race.

    Sociopath Khamenei may be unhinged enough to try for events described in the Book of Revelation. There is no sign of any other leader in the region that detached from reality.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird, @Derer

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    — 400 BC?

    Yea but that was before the new rules were handed to a single prophet. Then he later ascended to heaven on a flying horse.

    Out:
    Most European art
    Religious tolerance
    Dogs indoors
    Black dogs
    Peeing in any direction
    One wife per man

    In:
    Killing non-believers
    Taking sex slaves in war
    Geometric art
    Strict rules for clean feet
    Child marriage
    New rules for peeing and taking a shit

    I don’t see any problems at all. Seems reasonable. An omnipotent being simply decided that he no longer thinks dogs should be inside and especially not black ones. Doesn’t sound made up at all.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    I think you missed the critical point... Let me restate:


    The non-Palestinian religion of Islam arrived with Muhammad the Settler Prophet ~600 AD. Non-Palestinian Muslim colonists have been a scourge to the area for ~1,400 years.
     
    Are you admitting that the non-Palestinian religion of Islam has no legitimacy in Palestine?

    If so, we can discuss how the non-Palestinian religion has relevance outside of Palestine. Are you trying to elucidate how the non-Palestinian edicts of Muhammad the Settler, not a Palestinian Prophet, have applicability in Arabia?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    This is sensible. What have you done with the real John Johnson?

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Geometric art sounds great, frankly:

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5617e9dbe4b09f2fdf354b0c/69921678-e611-4f50-be00-2c3351ab76e2/Screenshot+%2846%29.png

    What's wrong with it?

    Jason Padgett does similar art nowadays:

    https://www.oxpal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Jason_Padgett_-_Energy_Spiral_(2008)_big.jpg

    https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/fractal-fusion-hw-equals-mc-squared-jason-padgett.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson

  75. @Sher Singh
    Opinion of Shia Islam improves immensely:

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777361459130138627/1199104108842455140/image.png

    Replies: @Yevardian, @Yevardian, @songbird

    Twelver Shiites are obsessed with their purity laws, in fact the overwhelming majority of written Shii jurisprudence concerns maintaining ritual cleanliness following proximity with people or things considered unclean. Sometimes it’s claimed there’s a Zoroastrian legacy in this regard but I don’t know about that. Khomeini was actually quite unusual in his interest in more esoteric aspects of Shiism.
    Almost anything of theological interest in Shiism fell into disfavour during the later Safavid period, and then was outright supressed from the Qajar era onwards, when the Ulama became an independent political force in its own right (the Safavid Shahs were considered holy and so had much more control over Shii clerical parasites).
    Could write a lot more about orthodox Twelver Shii practice and belief but I’d probably start boring even myself.

    • Thanks: Another Polish Perspective, Sher Singh
  76. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    You aren't gonna get the fun stuff in English. This one has some of the scenes in Russian

    1. Zelensky was giving speech at UN, because no one showed up, so Ukrainian TV put in an astroturfed cut with more people in audience, except they botched it and Zelensky was in the audience simultaneously.

    2. Blinken came to White House for trick-and-treat and dressed up his son as Zelensky, but it looked so stupid because it implied Zelensky is always there to beg for money.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp54PbHfoDU

    This one is about Putin's possible Jewish heritage. Because Chinese Putin fanboys are like Zelensky is a Jew, Jew this Jew that-- except Putin is probably also

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eiBLXVGfHU

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer, @A123

    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate. Does this look Jewish to you?

     

     

    Zelensky went to Israel to intentionally offend Palestinian Jews. This was most noted by Likud and the religious parties. They called out anti-Semite Zelensky for his evil (1).

    Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    • Troll: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    Is that Hack and AP?

    I thought they were older, but you never can tell on the interwebs.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Zelensky's nowhere to be seen within that photo? He's in this one though:

    https://www.president.gov.ua/storage/j-image-storage/14/91/29/8cbf95f3ed3e9c505d3b6debcb330649_1579778177_extra_large.jpeg

    We have to be kind to kremlinstoogeA123 who's obviously having another bad day:

    https://scottberkun.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/glue.jpeg

    , @John Johnson
    @A123

    Funny thing is that Anglin and the other anti-Jewish Putin defenders never mention that the dwarf has a Jewish propagandist who dresses like a villain from a James Bond movie:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAZq6-Prlhk

    A picture of the two where Putin isn't wearing his shoe lifts:
    https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2052731/russias-vladimir-putin-vladimir-solovyov.webp?w=790&f=b38363a35298aa17816a26cea9852135

    Putin no longer allows himself to be photographed at his natural height.

    There is actually no reason to believe that Ukraine has more Neo-Nazis than Russia.

    Russia has more Neo-Nazi groups than Ukraine:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neo-Nazi_organizations

    There are Neo-Nazis fighting within the Russian military:
    https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.html

    A Slav anywhere larping as a Nazi is a loser. Hitler hated them all and planned on starving most Slavs to death.

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @A123


    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate.
     
    Merely aligning with Nazis doesn't indict one as a rabid anti-Semite. Half of Europe did in WWII, so did the Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, Chinese and Japanese.

    (Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn't absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins)

    By the way, what's the deal with Jackson Hinkle signing up to be a CCP flunkie? "MAGA Communism"?

    https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1749997152619696258

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @A123

  77. @John Johnson
    @A123

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    — 400 BC?

    Yea but that was before the new rules were handed to a single prophet. Then he later ascended to heaven on a flying horse.

    Out:
    Most European art
    Religious tolerance
    Dogs indoors
    Black dogs
    Peeing in any direction
    One wife per man

    In:
    Killing non-believers
    Taking sex slaves in war
    Geometric art
    Strict rules for clean feet
    Child marriage
    New rules for peeing and taking a shit

    I don't see any problems at all. Seems reasonable. An omnipotent being simply decided that he no longer thinks dogs should be inside and especially not black ones. Doesn't sound made up at all.

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    I think you missed the critical point… Let me restate:

    The non-Palestinian religion of Islam arrived with Muhammad the Settler Prophet ~600 AD. Non-Palestinian Muslim colonists have been a scourge to the area for ~1,400 years.

    Are you admitting that the non-Palestinian religion of Islam has no legitimacy in Palestine?

    If so, we can discuss how the non-Palestinian religion has relevance outside of Palestine. Are you trying to elucidate how the non-Palestinian edicts of Muhammad the Settler, not a Palestinian Prophet, have applicability in Arabia?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    If you think I missed a critical point then I really don't know if you even read my post.

    Most people would simply take my post as derisive of Islam and really isn't a response to any of your points.

    Which it would be.

    I don't like Islam.

    I think it is a made-up religion that is incompatible with the West and eventually turns against the liberal tolerance that allows it in. I am fine with letting Muslims rule over their countries but I don't take the liberal/conservative view that it's "just another religion" we should treat equally.

  78. @Sher Singh
    Opinion of Shia Islam improves immensely:

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777361459130138627/1199104108842455140/image.png

    Replies: @Yevardian, @Yevardian, @songbird

    Reminds the British diplomatic experience with Mohamad Shah Qajar, who unusually had humanitarian inclinations, possibly stemming from his (disapproved of) Sufi influences in his upbringing. But despite his sincere attempts to end judicial torture and even the persecution of Babi heretics, when the British appealed to him to shut down the slave trade, he was unmoved and replied he was interested in the rights of full humans.

    The British forced the end of maritime slave trade in the Persian Gulf anyway, but I think it wasn’t until the constitutional revolution of 1905 that negro slavery was officially abolished within Iran.

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Yevardian

    Same opinion tbh - Indians past Panjab & Africans aren't human.
    Arabs are heavily negrified too - Levantine girls are (Y) tho.

    What's interesting is Guru Sahib stated he'll turn his back on the Khalsa when they adopt Bipran Ki Reet.

    This basically means the same Zoro-Vedic purity culture around avoiding meat/alcohol.

    https://www.manglacharan.com/post/conduct-of-the-khalsa

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/guru-gobind-on-21568389?l=it

  79. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    It is not Portugal.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Palestine!

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    Is Palestine in Europe? You wasted my hint.

  80. @A123
    @Derer

    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years; Christianity started there ~2,000 years ago.

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    -- 400 BC?
    -- 200 BC?
    -- 0 AD/BC?
    -- 200 AD?
    -- 400 AD?

    The corrects answer is ZERO. The non-Palestinian religion of Islam arrived with Muhammad the Settler Prophet ~600 AD. Non-Palestinian Muslim colonists have been a scourge to the area for ~1,400 years.

    Palestinian Jews have hundreds of nuclear weapons, and their foes do not. The "official" estimates of only 200-300 are laughably low. Despite the geography, the followers of Muhammad the Settler can do very little. Deranged aggression would almost surely result in full planetary extinction of the human race.

    Sociopath Khamenei may be unhinged enough to try for events described in the Book of Revelation. There is no sign of any other leader in the region that detached from reality.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird, @Derer

    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years;

    The Jewish ethnic group may be that old, but am not sure that the archeology suggests widespread monotheism at such an early date.

    Tel Arid and Elephantine Island both suggest polytheism, IIRC.

    They were eating a lot of catfish in Judea in the first half of the first Millennium BC.

    https://www.thejc.com/judaism/how-old-is-judaism-the-answer-might-be-younger-than-you-think-i3d4otji

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird



    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years;
     
    The Jewish ethnic group may be that old, but am not sure that the archeology suggests widespread monotheism at such an early date.
     
    There are of course other long gone religions, pantheistic and monotheistic. In context, what I wrote should be taken as, "two major, currently surviving Palestinian religions". In terms of present day land possession the primary surviving indigenous faiths (Christianity and Judaism) are in play, not the extinct ones.
    ___

    A key concept of efficient discourse is avoiding, "Accuracy at the Expense of Clarity". To be as concise and effective as possible, accurate but tangential concepts are often omitted.

    You are stating that the currently surviving, indigenous Jewish faith may be only 2,500 years old, not 3,000. If you are correct, how does that 500 year change impact the subject of current day disputes?

    There are also ~100K Druze around. I am not grouping them into the extinct category. However, to maintain clarity in writing I am not listing them (and smaller groups) every time. That accuracy would come at the expense of clarity and focus on the core points. Right or wrong, they will be dragged along with what the more substantial factions decide.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

  81. @A123
    @John Johnson

    I think you missed the critical point... Let me restate:


    The non-Palestinian religion of Islam arrived with Muhammad the Settler Prophet ~600 AD. Non-Palestinian Muslim colonists have been a scourge to the area for ~1,400 years.
     
    Are you admitting that the non-Palestinian religion of Islam has no legitimacy in Palestine?

    If so, we can discuss how the non-Palestinian religion has relevance outside of Palestine. Are you trying to elucidate how the non-Palestinian edicts of Muhammad the Settler, not a Palestinian Prophet, have applicability in Arabia?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    If you think I missed a critical point then I really don’t know if you even read my post.

    Most people would simply take my post as derisive of Islam and really isn’t a response to any of your points.

    Which it would be.

    I don’t like Islam.

    I think it is a made-up religion that is incompatible with the West and eventually turns against the liberal tolerance that allows it in. I am fine with letting Muslims rule over their countries but I don’t take the liberal/conservative view that it’s “just another religion” we should treat equally.

    • Agree: QCIC
    • Thanks: A123
  82. @AnonfromTN
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Zelensky is a Jew
     
    As far as the clown and Kolomoisky are concerned, their Jewishness is irrelevant. Their defining characteristics are that both are criminals, thieves and murderers. They are JINOs: Jews in name only.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Somewhat true, though there seems to be a worldwide network of elite criminals with similarly irrelevant Jewish heritage 😉

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    there seems to be a worldwide network of elite criminals with similarly irrelevant Jewish heritage
     
    I can name criminals of various nationalities that all deserve to be hanged publicly. Just a few that immediately come to mind: Bush Jr, Cheney, Blair, Obama, Biden, Killary, etc. I refuse to hold all Americans or Brits responsible for the crimes of these individuals.

    Every nationality has its scum. In my book, this scum should be punished as individuals, not the whole nations they come from. After all, you wouldn’t want to imprison the whole nation because some of its representatives are murderers.

    Replies: @LT1488, @QCIC

  83. @Sean
    @AP


    The purpose is to make it clear to Russia that further warfare is futile.
     
    Which is not true. As long as Russia refuses to cease hostilities and recognize the borders of Ukraine, it cannot join Nato. All Russia has to do to attain its primary objective is maintain an official non-peace.

    Russia isn’t interested in a peaceful resolution ... there will be none until its leadership changes their mind. And this can only be done if it’s military is stopped in Ukraine...
     
    No matter how the military situation develops, Russia will not, can not, agree to peace in Ukraine.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    So, essentially, we get a Korea-style situation in Ukraine, possibly for decades? That could suit Ukraine since Korea’s DMZ has been stable for several decades. In theory, this wouldn’t even preclude the possibility of US/Western troops in unoccupied Ukraine if they will ever be deemed necessary to help keep the peace, even without NATO. We’ve had troops in South Korea for several decades, after all.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    By "several decades" I take it you mean 70 years!!!! Korea was a trifecta for the USA: we got to piss off China, Russia and Japan all together.

    Interest in Ukraine may fade more quickly, though the swelling ranks of the Ukie diaspora will surely cause problems. Maybe they can fight it out with the other illegal immigrants. Whichever group deports the other interlopers gets to stay.

    , @Sean
    @Mr. XYZ

    I don't think the 'West' (US) took Russia seriously over Ukraine, but surely Washington never really contemplated that when it came down to it they might well end up fighting the Russians directly over Ukraine. At end of day Kiev was not a Nato member what kind of advantage they were trying to achieve moving into the Western orbit is unclear; did they think because the Baltic states were allowed to join Nato Ukraine could despite all the warnings that Russia would not stand for it and the invasion of Georgia over the same issue?


    The US army was already fighting the North Koreans when China, which did not at that time have the Atomic Bomb, sent a army of Chinese to attack US troops. The actual hostilities completely ended, and although there has been a US army in South Korea for decades it does not face a Chinese force.

    Suppose for the sake of argument the Russians a withdraw completely out of Ukraine, all Russia has to do is decline to cease actual hostilities with Ukraine by firing a few missiles now and again, and Ukraine will become frozen in the current situation as far as Nato membership is concerned. No way in hell is America going to get into a situation where the US armed forces might get into direct fighting with the Russia armed forces if Putin or whoever gets out of bed one morning and decides to invade Ukraine again because that would be a path to Russian use of tactical nuclear weapons against the American armed forces.

  84. @John Johnson
    @A123

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    — 400 BC?

    Yea but that was before the new rules were handed to a single prophet. Then he later ascended to heaven on a flying horse.

    Out:
    Most European art
    Religious tolerance
    Dogs indoors
    Black dogs
    Peeing in any direction
    One wife per man

    In:
    Killing non-believers
    Taking sex slaves in war
    Geometric art
    Strict rules for clean feet
    Child marriage
    New rules for peeing and taking a shit

    I don't see any problems at all. Seems reasonable. An omnipotent being simply decided that he no longer thinks dogs should be inside and especially not black ones. Doesn't sound made up at all.

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    This is sensible. What have you done with the real John Johnson?

    • LOL: Mr. XYZ
  85. @John Johnson
    @A123

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    — 400 BC?

    Yea but that was before the new rules were handed to a single prophet. Then he later ascended to heaven on a flying horse.

    Out:
    Most European art
    Religious tolerance
    Dogs indoors
    Black dogs
    Peeing in any direction
    One wife per man

    In:
    Killing non-believers
    Taking sex slaves in war
    Geometric art
    Strict rules for clean feet
    Child marriage
    New rules for peeing and taking a shit

    I don't see any problems at all. Seems reasonable. An omnipotent being simply decided that he no longer thinks dogs should be inside and especially not black ones. Doesn't sound made up at all.

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    Geometric art sounds great, frankly:

    What’s wrong with it?

    Jason Padgett does similar art nowadays:

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    What’s wrong with it?

    Nothing wrong with it.

    I just highly doubt God decided in the 7th century that he prefers geometric art to drawings of his creations.

    Replies: @QCIC

  86. @Mr. XYZ
    @Sean

    So, essentially, we get a Korea-style situation in Ukraine, possibly for decades? That could suit Ukraine since Korea's DMZ has been stable for several decades. In theory, this wouldn't even preclude the possibility of US/Western troops in unoccupied Ukraine if they will ever be deemed necessary to help keep the peace, even without NATO. We've had troops in South Korea for several decades, after all.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean

    By “several decades” I take it you mean 70 years!!!! Korea was a trifecta for the USA: we got to piss off China, Russia and Japan all together.

    Interest in Ukraine may fade more quickly, though the swelling ranks of the Ukie diaspora will surely cause problems. Maybe they can fight it out with the other illegal immigrants. Whichever group deports the other interlopers gets to stay.

  87. This Thierry Baudet fellow has a clever idea: to blame the decline in Western Civilization on Belgium causing the World Wars.

  88. @A123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate. Does this look Jewish to you?

     
    https://i0.wp.com/gdb.rferl.org/8EF4874F-A14F-48C8-9331-55B8D2CAF561_w640_s.jpg
     

    Zelensky went to Israel to intentionally offend Palestinian Jews. This was most noted by Likud and the religious parties. They called out anti-Semite Zelensky for his evil (1).

    Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Is that Hack and AP?

    I thought they were older, but you never can tell on the interwebs.

    • LOL: A123
  89. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...revenge that was expressed for real and imagined wrongs perpetrated by the Polish colonists in these Ukrainian areas, that had been brewing for a very long time.
     
    Yeah, very long time, like 500 years. But they were still only Polish colonists to you....and the Russians who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for over 200 years are in your mind only "Russian colonists"...no rights and ready for the Ukie angst, rage and revenge.

    Are you also a "colonist' in USA? I doubt your ancestors have been there for 200 or 500 years. When the mestizos come to show their rage in Phoenix, remember you are only a "colonist" and they have lived with this terrible angst of having you there - it has brewed for a long time.

    From what I see on your border, millions are coming to check up on you 'colonists'. And they are bringing a lot of help from all over the Third World. But you instead worry if "Lugansk" is in Russia or in Ukraine...the precious narcissism of small minds....

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

    Yeah, very long time, like 500 years.

    Once again displaying your complete lack of knowledge regarding Ukrainian and Polish history. What was the whole early part of the 20th century about in Western Ukrainian lands in Galicia and Volhynia if not Polish and Ukrainian atrocities, pacifications and political back and forth between Poles and Ukrainians? You’re getting to sound real boring shooting off your mouth about subjects you know nothing about.

    and the Russians who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for over 200 years are in your mind only “Russian colonists”…no rights and ready for the Ukie angst, rage and revenge.

    Sure they’ve lived in these part for a couple centuries (that should count for something) but did you ever look into how they ended up in these parts, if not colonists then what would you call them, uninvited guests? 🙂

    Your spiel is getting old and warn out here, I actually skip over your comments quite often,they’re so boring and repetitive. I really don’t know where AP has developed his patience in dealing with you.

    When the mestizos come to show their rage in Phoenix, remember you are only a “colonist” and they have lived with this terrible angst of having you there – it has brewed for a long time.

    Another one of your really dumb statements. “Mestizos”of all economic classes are glad to be in Phoenix, working and making money providing a better life for themselves and their families. I don’t see any war drums on the horizon like you do. 🙂

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @Mr. Hack

    By this logic Ukrainians should leave all lands below Podolia and Cherkassy.
    Historically those lands below those 2 were uninhabited but ruled by Tatars
    Russian empire colonized those lands and settled Ukrainian colonizers in it.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

  90. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Yeah, very long time, like 500 years.
     
    Once again displaying your complete lack of knowledge regarding Ukrainian and Polish history. What was the whole early part of the 20th century about in Western Ukrainian lands in Galicia and Volhynia if not Polish and Ukrainian atrocities, pacifications and political back and forth between Poles and Ukrainians? You're getting to sound real boring shooting off your mouth about subjects you know nothing about.

    and the Russians who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for over 200 years are in your mind only “Russian colonists”…no rights and ready for the Ukie angst, rage and revenge.
     
    Sure they've lived in these part for a couple centuries (that should count for something) but did you ever look into how they ended up in these parts, if not colonists then what would you call them, uninvited guests? :-)

    Your spiel is getting old and warn out here, I actually skip over your comments quite often,they're so boring and repetitive. I really don't know where AP has developed his patience in dealing with you.


    When the mestizos come to show their rage in Phoenix, remember you are only a “colonist” and they have lived with this terrible angst of having you there – it has brewed for a long time.
     
    Another one of your really dumb statements. "Mestizos"of all economic classes are glad to be in Phoenix, working and making money providing a better life for themselves and their families. I don't see any war drums on the horizon like you do. :-)

    https://ktar.com/wp-content/uploads/cms/34/3498/349817.jpg

    Replies: @LT1488

    By this logic Ukrainians should leave all lands below Podolia and Cherkassy.
    Historically those lands below those 2 were uninhabited but ruled by Tatars
    Russian empire colonized those lands and settled Ukrainian colonizers in it.

    • Replies: @AP
    @LT1488

    Galicia once stretched to the Black Sea.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/4d/03/a54d032b93a7b6c9a4a9189763baf9ba.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

    , @Mr. Hack
    @LT1488

    And Mexico had really well developed cities, roads and government apparatus in AZ? :-)

    Replies: @LT1488

  91. AP says:
    @Mikel
    @Beckow

    It's like giving air to ground missiles to Israel and expecting that they will not use them to kill civilians. Are the Israelis even capable of refraining from killing civilians?

    Ukraine may actually be worse in some aspects. The Israelis seem to have a solid command structure but I don't believe that the order to bomb an open market in Donetsk came from Zaluzhny or Zelensky. It's easier to imagine that it was someone much further down who took the initiative. Because he can and because he knows that there will be no consequences, like there weren't in all the previous years since Maidan.

    The other difference between both countries is that the Israelis don't try to insult our intelligence time and again saying that it's not them, it's the Palestinians who are bombing themselves. AP couldn't help himself and found one of those fairy tales for dimwits. It's all so deja vu.

    In the midst of all this insanity I found the ISW report of the attack almost funny. The Institute for the Study of War, an American organization constantly used by all the respectable media as their main source of information on the war in Ukraine, published a very long daily report of how the hostilities went in all the different fronts and only at the very end they mentioned the attack on the Donetsk market under the heading "Russian Information Operations and Narratives". Apparently, they only found it worth mentioning because the Russians were devious enough to use it as way to justify Russia’s need to achieve its military objectives in Ukraine. Of course, once they had mentioned the subject they hastened to clarify that they "cannot independently confirm the actors behind the strike".

    Was late-stage Communism this mendacious? I think the Western MSM has already surpassed those levels and we're headed towards Stalinist proportions of media distortion. But I can't say for sure, my first trip to Eastern Europe was right after the fall of the Iron Curtain, around 1989 or 1990.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @AP

    The other difference between both countries is that the Israelis don’t try to insult our intelligence time and again saying that it’s not them, it’s the Palestinians who are bombing themselves. AP couldn’t help himself and found one of those fairy tales for dimwits.

    Here is the full description of that. Feel free to debunk it:

    https://malcontentment.com/unraveling-claims-of-ukrainian-involvement-donetsk-market-attack-points-to-russian-origination/

    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.

    [MORE]

    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.

    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.

    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.

    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.

    Still image taken from a video provided by the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic showing an impact crater on Lyashenka Street indicating that a non-fragmentation round on a high arc trajectory was used, fired west-southwest of the market.

    If Ukraine were responsible, the closest safe firing location would be 24.9 kilometers away, and even in Pobieda, the Russian D-20 152-millimeter howitzer would be at its absolute maximum range. At 24.9 kilometers, the M-777 or NATO standard self-propelled artillery pieces would be at or just beyond their standard range. Because Russian officials did not share any images of shrapnel, we have no way to authenticate the munition used.

    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.

    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.

    Still image taken from a video provided by the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic showing an impact crater on Lyashenka Street indicating that a non-fragmentation round on a high arc trajectory was used, fired west-southwest of the market.
    If Ukraine were responsible, the closest safe firing location would be 24.9 kilometers away, and even in Pobieda, the Russian D-20 152-millimeter howitzer would be at its absolute maximum range. At 24.9 kilometers, the M-777 or NATO standard self-propelled artillery pieces would be at or just beyond their standard range. Because Russian officials did not share any images of shrapnel, we have no way to authenticate the munition used.

    Along with the impact crater at the base of the tree on Lyashenka Street, a video recorded during the attack provided critical information on the potential distance from the area attacked and the firing point. The Russian video shared on the popular Telegram channel Typical Donetsk captured the sound of outgoing rounds that impacted 2.5 and 4.25 seconds later. If the rounds were fired from M-777 artillery with a muzzle velocity of 870 meters per second, the maximum linear distance the round could travel is 3,700 meters, deep within the city of Donetsk itself. Factoring for the arc an artillery shell travels and the minimum possible range of the M-777, the distance drops to 2,300 meters. That’s an impossibly short distance for the rounds to have been fired by Ukraine.

    The timing of the attack is also suspect, occurring while Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was en route to a UN Security Council meeting, and the U.S. Congress remains poised to discuss continued military support for Ukraine.

    The available evidence suggests that the origin of the attack was in a forested area between the Kirovs’kyi and Petrovs’kyi Districts, approximately 2,000 to 3,000 meters west of the market area. Immediate claims that any combatant committed a war crime should receive a thorough investigation before news agencies directly quote national officials and report the claims as pure fact. The intricacies of this investigation underscore the importance of a thorough and unbiased examination of available evidence by subject matter experts.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ, Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    Feel free to debunk it:
     
    Sure, I will do. But right now I need to finish debunking those stories about the Lugansk Square massacre being caused by exploding air conditioners, the MH-17 being downed by Ukrainian jets, Navalny being imprisoned because he was selling counterfeit Armani clothes, Lira dying of lack of exercise,... so many stories to debunk in that part of the world...

    I'll let you know when I have the time to get to yours and we'll have a weeks long debate. Only you have to promise to control yourself and avoid copy/pasting the same text several times, like you've done here.

    Replies: @AP

  92. @LT1488
    @Mr. Hack

    By this logic Ukrainians should leave all lands below Podolia and Cherkassy.
    Historically those lands below those 2 were uninhabited but ruled by Tatars
    Russian empire colonized those lands and settled Ukrainian colonizers in it.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    Galicia once stretched to the Black Sea.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    "We wuz Moldovans!" ;) :D

    , @LT1488
    @AP

    Those areas were under Galicia's sphere of influence, not direct control, lots of Vlach tribes inhabited the region
    Also note how even this still excludes most of the lands below Cherkassy save for Podolia.

    Replies: @AP

  93. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    If he’s a doomer on China, then what exactly does his argument in regards to the post-American order consist of? After all, isn’t China the main challenger to the West? Russia certainly can’t do it by itself, at least not short of nuclear war.
     
    He's a doomer on Russia too. Says something like the Russian people will cease to exist in 30-40 years (may forget the exact timeline.)

    He basically says America will turn inward and still be prosperous due to its providential geography and ability to interface with Mexico. (Actually Mexican fertility seems to be plummeting). But status quo globalism will be dead. Think he is still predicting mass famine in many parts of the world.

    He thinks there will be regional powers. France because it has good agricultural land and can build tractors. Turkey. Nigeria. India, maybe a few others. With a lot of piracy in-between.

    Sounds kind of fantastical in some ways. Don't see why it requires a big American navy to stamp out pirates.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Why can’t America turn inward in relation to the non-GAE world but nevertheless continue focusing on GAE (the Greater American Empire)? The US’s relations with the EU, the Gulf states, and pro-US East Asia remain very important, after all.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Haven't read his latest, but am not sure he explains it very well.

    IIRC, he believes the US will have plenty of energy from shale and so not need the Gulf. He thinks Japan will become the regional power of Asia again, and probably control the Persian Gulf.

    Presumably, some parts of the world will be too unsettled for the US to want to get involved.

    If he thinks the US will become isolationist, IMO he should do a better job explaining how the bureaucracy of the state department will die.

  94. @AP
    @LT1488

    Galicia once stretched to the Black Sea.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/4d/03/a54d032b93a7b6c9a4a9189763baf9ba.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

    “We wuz Moldovans!” 😉 😀

  95. @A123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate. Does this look Jewish to you?

     
    https://i0.wp.com/gdb.rferl.org/8EF4874F-A14F-48C8-9331-55B8D2CAF561_w640_s.jpg
     

    Zelensky went to Israel to intentionally offend Palestinian Jews. This was most noted by Likud and the religious parties. They called out anti-Semite Zelensky for his evil (1).

    Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Zelensky’s nowhere to be seen within that photo? He’s in this one though:

    We have to be kind to kremlinstoogeA123 who’s obviously having another bad day:

  96. @AP
    @Mikel


    There seems to be a pattern of Ukrainians attacking civilian targets, especially in Donbas, after suffering some setback on the battlefield
     
    Have there been significant setbacks on the battlefield?

    it’s very difficult to imagine what military goal could be achieved by directing an artillery volley to a market in Donetsk at peak shopping hours.

     

    And right before Russia was going to the security council. How inconvenient.

    I’m not aware that they’ve even tried explaining it this time
     
    Not sure what Ukrainian authorities have been saying, but fwiw (I do not endorse any story about this) pro-Ukrainians are claiming that the Russians did it as a false flag attack. Supposedly the first Russian story was that the shells used were 122 mm mortars which are supposedly beyond the range of NATO mortars of that type (the front is 15 km from central Donetsk). The Russians then changed their story and stated that the artillery were 152 and 155. This would be within range, but video supposedly shows that the firing and hit were too close together, so the shells could not have travelled so far and must have been fired from a closer position in Russian-held territory (see after “more”).

    I don’t endorse that, but is is not impossible. Russia has shown strong disregard for Donbas lives, they are expendable for the interests of the Russian state.

    the reality is that arming Ukraine, especially with sophisticated weapons, makes us less secure, not more
     
    Allowing Russia to break the stalemate at the front and to take the fight to Ukraine’s cities makes us more secure? Do you think we would be more secure if Russia chose to go for the Baltics next?

    It is just a given that they are going to use them to kill civilians

     

    If that were the goal, don’t you think far more civilians would have been killed? Looks like Ukraine has mostly been hitting military targets such as ships, military factories and radars, or the oil and gas export infrastructure that funds Russia’s war effort. There has not been a pattern of mass bombardment of purely civilian, or residential areas.

    Apparently, yesterday’s attack (like the attack on the center of Belgorod some weeks ago) was also carried out using NATO ordnance.
     
    And do you know if the civilian destruction in Belgorod wasn’t caused by Russian air defense missiles coming down in civilian areas, or Ukrainian rockets being taken down before they reached their targets (this is how many Ukrainian civilians died)? There was video of at least one Russian missile failing and coming down over Belgorod.

    Belgorod is from where Russians have been shelling Kharkiv. Do you think Ukrainians don’t have the right to shoot back at all?

    Having Russian innocent blood on our hands
     
    Sadly, any fighting back will involve loss of civilian life. Many French people were killed during the liberation of France. Are you suggesting Ukraine not fight back at all? That Russia bomb Ukraine from Belgorod and other areas with no answer?

    If someone more audacious than Putin comes to power I wouldn’t discard Nikki’s crazy prophecies actually becoming true, especially if the Russians finally manage to inflict a decisive defeat on Ukraine and recover their confidence in their military
     
    In which case it is better for Russia to be smaller and weaker than for it to be stronger, and thus it would be better to give Ukraine what it needs to prevent Russia from being larger.

    I doubt Russia will win, but if it were to conquer all or most of Ukraine there is at least a 30% chance that Russia would next go after the Baltics. They are too close to Russia’s second city, they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances), and they separate Russian Kaliningrad from Belarus and Russia. A successful takeover might break NATO, if NATO doesn’t respond robustly. Russia’s government has already declared for the Soviet borders (optimistically, as some sort of negotiation position, like it’s recent claim the the Alaska sale was illegal, but who knows?).

    If the Baltics are attacked, US might not do much but Poland almost certainly would. And then US and Germany would be more tempted to get involved. I suspect I know what your position would be - neither Poland nor the Baltics are worth a possible nuclear holocaust, we need to keep backing off. But I doubt it will go that way.

    The way to stop a possible cascade of such events and prevent a much larger mess would be to keep the war in Ukraine and end it there, by giving Ukraine what it needs. No American lives used or lost, no wider war.



    https://twitter.com/malcontentmentt/status/1749311298603815324?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    they have large ethnic Russian minorities (with real or imagined grievances),

    Worth noting that if NATO beats Russia in a conventional war without nukes being used and expels Russia from the Baltics, then the Balts are likely to ethnically cleanse their countries of Russians post-WWII Czech-style. Russia surely doesn’t want that, does it?

  97. @LT1488
    @Mr. Hack

    By this logic Ukrainians should leave all lands below Podolia and Cherkassy.
    Historically those lands below those 2 were uninhabited but ruled by Tatars
    Russian empire colonized those lands and settled Ukrainian colonizers in it.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    And Mexico had really well developed cities, roads and government apparatus in AZ? 🙂

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @Mr. Hack

    False analogy.

  98. @QCIC
    @AP

    If either side prevails in Ukraine the result is unstable, so my question was a thought experiment. Even if Ukraine is quickly forgotten, enormous military tension between NATO and Russia will remain. The West has created a huge mess.

    If Ukraine prevails in some sense, the West will be empowered to press Russia even harder. This pressure could be in Kaliningrad, the Caucasus or maybe North Korea. If Russia prevails in Ukraine, the leaders of the Baltics will pee in their pants and jump into the comforting arms of their NATO brothers. In this case, Russia will also be pressured in some way.

    So the requirement for Russia is to stop the West from pressuring her militarily and geopolitically. Ukraine is just the present iteration of this challenge. The mythical sensible people in the West could wake up tomorrow and simply stop doing what they are doing and work on a mutual peace. It will take decades to repair the damage intentionally inflicted by the West on the USA-Russia security relationship since 1999. Nonetheless, this healing process could start tomorrow. No one expects this to happen. The Balts should lead this effort since they have the most to lose and what they have cannot be protected by force.

    This leaves Russia various choices. One option is simply to face down the Western pressure as it appears. This always has the risk of dangerous escalation, but maybe the Russians can be philosophical about the situation. They can hope the leaders and myths in the West will change over time to something less hostile to Russia. If the trends are that Russia is gradually getting stronger and the West is gradually getting weaker this may be their best response. Alternatively, if NATO escalates sooner rather than later, Russia may want to either break up NATO politically or work with China to weaken the dollar and reduce the ability of the USA to stir up trouble.

    Only the USA dropping the anti-Russia project is a safe course. The other scenarios have the real risk of nuclear war and World War 3. The best option is for Yankee to go home and fix her border.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LondonBob

    The US has so many problems at home, at some point they will turn inwards, without US promotion of anti-Russian positions then these will inevitably die away, it is all so artificial.

    Once the Russians have sealed victory there is very little that can be done, the disparity between Russia and the rest of Europe is a chasm now, militarily speaking. Europe is also quickly plunging in to the abyss with the economic, political and social problems.

  99. Thought this was a good article.

    https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/to-end-the-war-in-ukraine-expose-its-core-lie/

    The West has gotten drunk on their own propaganda, they are incapable of making the right, informed decisions.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    I think the biggest Western lie of the conflict in Ukraine is one of omission. The majority of the Western political and media classes feign ignorance of the prior aggressive history of the West toward Russia on crucial issues such as expansion of NATO, dropping the ABM treaty and placing missile bases in Eastern Europe. A close corollary lie is the pretense that this conflict started in 2022.

    The notion Russia is expansionist is an easy meme to sell on the Western street. It has the bonus feature that while untrue, it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy in the wake of the Western-caused SMO.

    Replies: @Sean

  100. @John Johnson

    Removing 99% of Hamas is a defeat for Israel?
     
    Removing 99% of a tumor is not a success.

    It's not a tumor. It's a political group and they will no longer have control over their territory. That's a loss.

    Their Iranian weapons aren't even working against IDF tanks due to the trophy armor.

    A bunch of geniuses that couldn't think of a better plan other than rape 18 year olds and kidnap children.

    Yes, it is. Antisemitism is higher now than it has been at any time post WW2. The entire Arab Islamic world sees what Hamas did on Oct 7th as heroic and so do hundreds of millions, if not billions, of other people all around the world.

    Anyone that cheers gunning down 18 year old girls or entire families in the burbs is a loser.

    The entire Islamic world does not view Hamas as heroic. Support for Hamas is the same which is drawn along Shia/Sunni lines. Egypt had to be pressured to take some of them in and provide aid. Hezbollah never opened a front as Ritter predicted. Iran was bombed by Isis over their inaction. Jordan shrugged as usual. The majority of the Arab world will complain about Israel and then won't lift a finger to help Hamas.

    Hamas doesn’t care about how many fighters it has lost: literally the only reason a young man joins Hamas is because he wants to get killed.

    Yes they target incels. Hamas offers them to the chance to rape and kill before being sent to the afterlife. Oh and the genius gentlemen league decided to use GoPros. Let's make sure the world sees what losers we are.

    Israel however will not hand Gaza back to them and their main leader was already killed.

    It is going to get 10s of billions of dollars worth of aid that will allow it to rebuild it’s tunnels and its arsenal.

    Hilarious. Tens of billions to Hamas? Where is that going to come from? You think Israel is going to let Hamas back in power and they will get tens of billion in aid? So the remaining Hamas members will get rich? Funniest joke of the day.

    Replies: @Greasy William

    Anyone that cheers gunning down 18 year old girls or entire families in the burbs is a loser.

    Yes, Arab/Muslims are losers, exactly. Jews and Arabs share the same father in Abraham but our (Jews) mother was the lady of the house and their mother was just a slave. Ishmael knows that he is living on borrowed time before the natural state of the world is restored, hence his bottomless anger and hatred

    The entire Islamic world does not view Hamas as heroic

    Yes they do and only someone who doesn’t know many Arabs/Muslims could think otherwise. Support for the Oct 7th attacks in the Arab Islamic world approaches 100% and the few who are opposed are regarded as Uncle Ahmad’s by their Arab brethren. Furthermore, the Oct 7 attacks are supported by hundreds of millions of Latin Americans, Asians and western leftists.

    Hezbollah never opened a front as Ritter predicted

    What is your obsession with Ritter? He is a disgraced pervert who preaches his nonsense to a small audience of alienated, lonely, western weirdos. He’s an idiot. Even this community’s Russian partisans regard him as an irrelevant ignoramus.

    The majority of the Arab world will complain about Israel and then won’t lift a finger to help Hamas

    Because Arabs/Muslims are cowards by nature who have a huge sense of entitlement: why should ~they~ die to protect the Palestinians? Someone else should do that for them! That is seriously how they think. This is what happens when you give freedom to a race of slaves.

    Yes they target incels.

    You don’t know the type of guy that joins Hamas or Hezbollah. These are not incels. They are very tough, very masculine young men. Often they are also very charismatic. They can be amateurish fighters and on a moral level they are the lowest of the low, but they aren’t incels.

    Israel however will not hand Gaza back to them

    Oh yes it will. The only reason it hasn’t done so already is because of the hostages, otherwise Israel would have already surrendered like it always does. Like Nasrallah said, Israel is weak as a spider’s web.

    Once a deal is worked out to get the hostages back, Israel will begin the process of leaving Gaza, although it will likely be a lengthy process.

    Hilarious. Tens of billions to Hamas? Where is that going to come from?

    The United States, like always. The EU will of course also chip in. The West has been subsidizing this race of criminals since 1949. Technically the aid will be to rebuild Gaza, but in practice most of it will go into the coffers of Hamas. We know this will happen because this is what happened after all of the previous Gaza clashes.

    • Thanks: Sher Singh
    • Replies: @A123
    @Greasy William

    Everything repeats as it always did until the pattern breaks and something new happens.

    The level of revulsion in Israel and elsewhere at Oct. 7 is new. Attacking children at the outdoor Peace Concert directly impacted the attitude of more liberal/secular parents.



    Israel however will not hand Gaza back to them
     
    Oh yes it will. The only reason it hasn’t done so already is because of the hostages, otherwise Israel would have already surrendered like it always does. Like Nasrallah said, Israel is weak as a spider’s web.

    Once a deal is worked out to get the hostages back, Israel will begin the process of leaving Gaza, although it will likely be a lengthy process.
     
    Palestinian Jews have made it clear that they will remain forever as a security force. No Hamas rearming. No tunnel reconstruction. There is no reason to believe they are anything less than serious about shattering Hamas and preventing formation of new groups.

    After the hostages are released, there should be elections for Muslim civil control in Gaza. The parties will be tightly controlled to bar those advocating violence. Most likely this will yield low quality governance, but it has to be tried.


    Hilarious. Tens of billions to Hamas? Where is that going to come from?
     
    The United States, like always. The EU will of course also chip in.
     
    Americans are tired of Forever Wars. There will be minimal flows to Gaza. At most, millions not billions.

    Current EU leadership is quite anti-Semitic. That is part of their belief system based on importing Muslims to replace Judeo-Christians. However, they are distracted by other matters. Reconstruction and assimilation of the new smaller Ukraine is likely to be a higher priority for the elites running their Greater European Empire.

    Technically the aid will be to rebuild Gaza, but in practice most of it will go into the coffers of Hamas. We know this will happen because this is what happened after all of the previous Gaza clashes.
     
    All reconstruction will go through a shared body with a substantial Jewish presence and audit capability. No foreign efforts will be allowed to operate outside of this framework. Leakage will never be zero, but the corruption associated with UN and EU projects will be cut off.

    PEACE 😇
  101. @songbird
    @A123


    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years;
     
    The Jewish ethnic group may be that old, but am not sure that the archeology suggests widespread monotheism at such an early date.

    Tel Arid and Elephantine Island both suggest polytheism, IIRC.

    They were eating a lot of catfish in Judea in the first half of the first Millennium BC.

    https://www.thejc.com/judaism/how-old-is-judaism-the-answer-might-be-younger-than-you-think-i3d4otji

    Replies: @A123

    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years;

    The Jewish ethnic group may be that old, but am not sure that the archeology suggests widespread monotheism at such an early date.

    There are of course other long gone religions, pantheistic and monotheistic. In context, what I wrote should be taken as, “two major, currently surviving Palestinian religions”. In terms of present day land possession the primary surviving indigenous faiths (Christianity and Judaism) are in play, not the extinct ones.
    ___

    A key concept of efficient discourse is avoiding, “Accuracy at the Expense of Clarity“. To be as concise and effective as possible, accurate but tangential concepts are often omitted.

    You are stating that the currently surviving, indigenous Jewish faith may be only 2,500 years old, not 3,000. If you are correct, how does that 500 year change impact the subject of current day disputes?

    There are also ~100K Druze around. I am not grouping them into the extinct category. However, to maintain clarity in writing I am not listing them (and smaller groups) every time. That accuracy would come at the expense of clarity and focus on the core points. Right or wrong, they will be dragged along with what the more substantial factions decide.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    A key concept of efficient discourse is avoiding, “Accuracy at the Expense of Clarity“. To be as concise and effective as possible, accurate but tangential concepts are often omitted.
     
    https://youtu.be/Ny03DJOmosY

    You should practice what you preach kremlinstoogeA123, and quit trying to depict Zelensky as being a Nazi.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @songbird
    @A123

    I think it fits more neatly into the wider historical context, to suppose a later origin for monotheism among Jews.

    That is what I am interested in - the wider context of civilization.

    There appears to have been no known true monotheism before Judaism, only quasi-monotheisms. Perhaps, Judaism evolved from such?

    But if true monotheism had an origin three thousand years old, then I suspect it would have left a wider mark on the ancient world and perhaps even the word of today.

  102. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Why can't America turn inward in relation to the non-GAE world but nevertheless continue focusing on GAE (the Greater American Empire)? The US's relations with the EU, the Gulf states, and pro-US East Asia remain very important, after all.

    Replies: @songbird

    Haven’t read his latest, but am not sure he explains it very well.

    IIRC, he believes the US will have plenty of energy from shale and so not need the Gulf. He thinks Japan will become the regional power of Asia again, and probably control the Persian Gulf.

    Presumably, some parts of the world will be too unsettled for the US to want to get involved.

    If he thinks the US will become isolationist, IMO he should do a better job explaining how the bureaucracy of the state department will die.

  103. @A123
    @songbird



    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years;
     
    The Jewish ethnic group may be that old, but am not sure that the archeology suggests widespread monotheism at such an early date.
     
    There are of course other long gone religions, pantheistic and monotheistic. In context, what I wrote should be taken as, "two major, currently surviving Palestinian religions". In terms of present day land possession the primary surviving indigenous faiths (Christianity and Judaism) are in play, not the extinct ones.
    ___

    A key concept of efficient discourse is avoiding, "Accuracy at the Expense of Clarity". To be as concise and effective as possible, accurate but tangential concepts are often omitted.

    You are stating that the currently surviving, indigenous Jewish faith may be only 2,500 years old, not 3,000. If you are correct, how does that 500 year change impact the subject of current day disputes?

    There are also ~100K Druze around. I am not grouping them into the extinct category. However, to maintain clarity in writing I am not listing them (and smaller groups) every time. That accuracy would come at the expense of clarity and focus on the core points. Right or wrong, they will be dragged along with what the more substantial factions decide.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    A key concept of efficient discourse is avoiding, “Accuracy at the Expense of Clarity“. To be as concise and effective as possible, accurate but tangential concepts are often omitted.

    You should practice what you preach kremlinstoogeA123, and quit trying to depict Zelensky as being a Nazi.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Zelensky as Nazi only plays with the Holocaust (Holohoax?) debunker crowd. They don't hang out in this forum.

    A123 is mixing his memes again! What's next, Ukrainian Palestinians?

    Replies: @A123

  104. @Mr. XYZ
    @Sean

    So, essentially, we get a Korea-style situation in Ukraine, possibly for decades? That could suit Ukraine since Korea's DMZ has been stable for several decades. In theory, this wouldn't even preclude the possibility of US/Western troops in unoccupied Ukraine if they will ever be deemed necessary to help keep the peace, even without NATO. We've had troops in South Korea for several decades, after all.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean

    I don’t think the ‘West’ (US) took Russia seriously over Ukraine, but surely Washington never really contemplated that when it came down to it they might well end up fighting the Russians directly over Ukraine. At end of day Kiev was not a Nato member what kind of advantage they were trying to achieve moving into the Western orbit is unclear; did they think because the Baltic states were allowed to join Nato Ukraine could despite all the warnings that Russia would not stand for it and the invasion of Georgia over the same issue?

    The US army was already fighting the North Koreans when China, which did not at that time have the Atomic Bomb, sent a army of Chinese to attack US troops. The actual hostilities completely ended, and although there has been a US army in South Korea for decades it does not face a Chinese force.

    Suppose for the sake of argument the Russians a withdraw completely out of Ukraine, all Russia has to do is decline to cease actual hostilities with Ukraine by firing a few missiles now and again, and Ukraine will become frozen in the current situation as far as Nato membership is concerned. No way in hell is America going to get into a situation where the US armed forces might get into direct fighting with the Russia armed forces if Putin or whoever gets out of bed one morning and decides to invade Ukraine again because that would be a path to Russian use of tactical nuclear weapons against the American armed forces.

  105. @LondonBob
    Thought this was a good article.

    https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/to-end-the-war-in-ukraine-expose-its-core-lie/

    The West has gotten drunk on their own propaganda, they are incapable of making the right, informed decisions.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the biggest Western lie of the conflict in Ukraine is one of omission. The majority of the Western political and media classes feign ignorance of the prior aggressive history of the West toward Russia on crucial issues such as expansion of NATO, dropping the ABM treaty and placing missile bases in Eastern Europe. A close corollary lie is the pretense that this conflict started in 2022.

    The notion Russia is expansionist is an easy meme to sell on the Western street. It has the bonus feature that while untrue, it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy in the wake of the Western-caused SMO.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @QCIC

    The old 'getting ready to fight the last war' trope. There is an assumption that WW3 if it starts will start like WW2, not WW1.

  106. @Greasy William
    @John Johnson


    Anyone that cheers gunning down 18 year old girls or entire families in the burbs is a loser.
     
    Yes, Arab/Muslims are losers, exactly. Jews and Arabs share the same father in Abraham but our (Jews) mother was the lady of the house and their mother was just a slave. Ishmael knows that he is living on borrowed time before the natural state of the world is restored, hence his bottomless anger and hatred

    The entire Islamic world does not view Hamas as heroic
     
    Yes they do and only someone who doesn't know many Arabs/Muslims could think otherwise. Support for the Oct 7th attacks in the Arab Islamic world approaches 100% and the few who are opposed are regarded as Uncle Ahmad's by their Arab brethren. Furthermore, the Oct 7 attacks are supported by hundreds of millions of Latin Americans, Asians and western leftists.

    Hezbollah never opened a front as Ritter predicted
     
    What is your obsession with Ritter? He is a disgraced pervert who preaches his nonsense to a small audience of alienated, lonely, western weirdos. He's an idiot. Even this community's Russian partisans regard him as an irrelevant ignoramus.

    The majority of the Arab world will complain about Israel and then won’t lift a finger to help Hamas
     
    Because Arabs/Muslims are cowards by nature who have a huge sense of entitlement: why should ~they~ die to protect the Palestinians? Someone else should do that for them! That is seriously how they think. This is what happens when you give freedom to a race of slaves.

    Yes they target incels.
     
    You don't know the type of guy that joins Hamas or Hezbollah. These are not incels. They are very tough, very masculine young men. Often they are also very charismatic. They can be amateurish fighters and on a moral level they are the lowest of the low, but they aren't incels.

    Israel however will not hand Gaza back to them
     
    Oh yes it will. The only reason it hasn't done so already is because of the hostages, otherwise Israel would have already surrendered like it always does. Like Nasrallah said, Israel is weak as a spider's web.

    Once a deal is worked out to get the hostages back, Israel will begin the process of leaving Gaza, although it will likely be a lengthy process.

    Hilarious. Tens of billions to Hamas? Where is that going to come from?
     
    The United States, like always. The EU will of course also chip in. The West has been subsidizing this race of criminals since 1949. Technically the aid will be to rebuild Gaza, but in practice most of it will go into the coffers of Hamas. We know this will happen because this is what happened after all of the previous Gaza clashes.

    Replies: @A123

    Everything repeats as it always did until the pattern breaks and something new happens.

    The level of revulsion in Israel and elsewhere at Oct. 7 is new. Attacking children at the outdoor Peace Concert directly impacted the attitude of more liberal/secular parents.

    Israel however will not hand Gaza back to them

    Oh yes it will. The only reason it hasn’t done so already is because of the hostages, otherwise Israel would have already surrendered like it always does. Like Nasrallah said, Israel is weak as a spider’s web.

    Once a deal is worked out to get the hostages back, Israel will begin the process of leaving Gaza, although it will likely be a lengthy process.

    Palestinian Jews have made it clear that they will remain forever as a security force. No Hamas rearming. No tunnel reconstruction. There is no reason to believe they are anything less than serious about shattering Hamas and preventing formation of new groups.

    After the hostages are released, there should be elections for Muslim civil control in Gaza. The parties will be tightly controlled to bar those advocating violence. Most likely this will yield low quality governance, but it has to be tried.

    Hilarious. Tens of billions to Hamas? Where is that going to come from?

    The United States, like always. The EU will of course also chip in.

    Americans are tired of Forever Wars. There will be minimal flows to Gaza. At most, millions not billions.

    Current EU leadership is quite anti-Semitic. That is part of their belief system based on importing Muslims to replace Judeo-Christians. However, they are distracted by other matters. Reconstruction and assimilation of the new smaller Ukraine is likely to be a higher priority for the elites running their Greater European Empire.

    Technically the aid will be to rebuild Gaza, but in practice most of it will go into the coffers of Hamas. We know this will happen because this is what happened after all of the previous Gaza clashes.

    All reconstruction will go through a shared body with a substantial Jewish presence and audit capability. No foreign efforts will be allowed to operate outside of this framework. Leakage will never be zero, but the corruption associated with UN and EU projects will be cut off.

    PEACE 😇

  107. @A123
    @songbird



    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years;
     
    The Jewish ethnic group may be that old, but am not sure that the archeology suggests widespread monotheism at such an early date.
     
    There are of course other long gone religions, pantheistic and monotheistic. In context, what I wrote should be taken as, "two major, currently surviving Palestinian religions". In terms of present day land possession the primary surviving indigenous faiths (Christianity and Judaism) are in play, not the extinct ones.
    ___

    A key concept of efficient discourse is avoiding, "Accuracy at the Expense of Clarity". To be as concise and effective as possible, accurate but tangential concepts are often omitted.

    You are stating that the currently surviving, indigenous Jewish faith may be only 2,500 years old, not 3,000. If you are correct, how does that 500 year change impact the subject of current day disputes?

    There are also ~100K Druze around. I am not grouping them into the extinct category. However, to maintain clarity in writing I am not listing them (and smaller groups) every time. That accuracy would come at the expense of clarity and focus on the core points. Right or wrong, they will be dragged along with what the more substantial factions decide.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    I think it fits more neatly into the wider historical context, to suppose a later origin for monotheism among Jews.

    That is what I am interested in – the wider context of civilization.

    There appears to have been no known true monotheism before Judaism, only quasi-monotheisms. Perhaps, Judaism evolved from such?

    But if true monotheism had an origin three thousand years old, then I suspect it would have left a wider mark on the ancient world and perhaps even the word of today.

    • Thanks: A123
  108. @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    A key concept of efficient discourse is avoiding, “Accuracy at the Expense of Clarity“. To be as concise and effective as possible, accurate but tangential concepts are often omitted.
     
    https://youtu.be/Ny03DJOmosY

    You should practice what you preach kremlinstoogeA123, and quit trying to depict Zelensky as being a Nazi.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Zelensky as Nazi only plays with the Holocaust (Holohoax?) debunker crowd. They don’t hang out in this forum.

    A123 is mixing his memes again! What’s next, Ukrainian Palestinians?

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    Zelensky as Nazi only plays with the Holocaust (Holohoax?) debunker crowd. They don’t hang out in this forum.
     
    Are you stating that Zelensky's Azov brigades use this symbology to be pro-Jewish?

     
    http://www.balancer.ru/sites/com/li/livejournal/pics/ic/da_dzi/8465174/296703/296703_original.jpg
     

    It is objectively true that Zelensky is a post-Judaic apostate who hates authentic Palestinian Jews.
    ___

    Is your goal to split hairs? You believe that anti-Semite Zelensky is only a neo-Nazi, not a full Nazi?

    Beyond his open and obvious hatred of Judaism and personal distance from that religion, I am not attached to specific labelling. I would be willing to concede his hatred of Jews is only neo-Nazi. Regardless of the label, his consent to dig up and desecrate Jewish graves for a condo project is proof of antipathy towards Judaism.

    The key point is that the Ukrainian side, under Zelensky's regime, is wholly non-Judaic in form and function. There may be some people with last names normally associated with ethnic lineage. However, there is nothing from Kiev's rule that ties to the practice of Judaism.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

  109. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Zelensky as Nazi only plays with the Holocaust (Holohoax?) debunker crowd. They don't hang out in this forum.

    A123 is mixing his memes again! What's next, Ukrainian Palestinians?

    Replies: @A123

    Zelensky as Nazi only plays with the Holocaust (Holohoax?) debunker crowd. They don’t hang out in this forum.

    Are you stating that Zelensky’s Azov brigades use this symbology to be pro-Jewish?

      

    It is objectively true that Zelensky is a post-Judaic apostate who hates authentic Palestinian Jews.
    ___

    Is your goal to split hairs? You believe that anti-Semite Zelensky is only a neo-Nazi, not a full Nazi?

    Beyond his open and obvious hatred of Judaism and personal distance from that religion, I am not attached to specific labelling. I would be willing to concede his hatred of Jews is only neo-Nazi. Regardless of the label, his consent to dig up and desecrate Jewish graves for a condo project is proof of antipathy towards Judaism.

    The key point is that the Ukrainian side, under Zelensky’s regime, is wholly non-Judaic in form and function. There may be some people with last names normally associated with ethnic lineage. However, there is nothing from Kiev’s rule that ties to the practice of Judaism.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    I agree it is a complex situation. Don't hurt yourself by working to better understand it.

    I suspect many of the Jewish leaders of this mess in Ukraine are more observant than you believe. Most likely they pick and chose aspects of their religion in an ad hoc manner as is very common in the secularized world. They may not fit your definitions of religious conformance and you may not fit theirs. I suspect the forcible secularization of the USSR combined with apparent loop-holes for Judaism led to all manner of craziness.

    Replies: @A123

    , @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    You sound fanatically strange enough to expect that Zelensky needs to don ultra high Orthodox/Jewish clothing while acting as president of Ukraine in order to not qualify as being a Ukrainian Nazi. Once again, the photo that you present does not include Zelensky. Do you think that anybody reading your comment is going to believe the type of nonsense that you're tring to spread? Here is a photo that represents the real Zelensky:

    https://cdn.jns.org/uploads/2019/05/RwjJ10893007-1320x880.jpg

    It must bother you to no end that there are rumours being spread that Ukrainian president Zelensky prefers Ukrainian dark bread to matzah when he eats Ukrainian borsch. :-)

  110. @Greasy William
    @John Johnson


    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?
     
    If Ukraine a stalemate, and I stress ~if~, that is a defeat for the US Empire. It shows that the US can no longer enforce the post WWII liberal international order.

    Israel is a US client state. Anything short of the removal of Hamas is a defeat for Israel and it is obvious that Hamas is not going to be removed. Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre and a defeat for Israel is a defeat for the US.

    The Red Sea is still closed, with no prospect of it being reopened in the foreseeable future. The US has already lost 2 servicemen and it will lose more if it chooses to expand operations there.

    Replies: @A123, @John Johnson, @YetAnotherAnon

    “Russia was behind the Oct 7 massacre”

    That’s the most unlikely thing I’ve heard. Surely the correct thing is “Iran, and that’s why we need to bomb them asap”.

    I personally doubt that either Iran or Russia, or even Hezbollah, had a clue what was planned. And don’t forget that a large number of the massacre victims were killed by Israeli forces – the Hannibal directive may have been rejected de jure but implemented de facto.

    It’s possible with the additional hostage deaths from Israeli bombing, that more civilian Jews will have been killed by Israel than by Hamas since October 7.

    Hamas could theoretically be removed if the entire Arab population and the West Bank were killed or driven out. That seems to be the Israeli plan, and the hopelessly compromised/blackmailed/threatened West is standing there flapping its collective hands – “I say, Bibi, there’s a good chap, don’t be like that…“.

    From today’s news – it looks as if the IDF is discovering that blowing down buildings onto people is only fun if the people underneath are women and kids.

  111. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Geometric art sounds great, frankly:

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5617e9dbe4b09f2fdf354b0c/69921678-e611-4f50-be00-2c3351ab76e2/Screenshot+%2846%29.png

    What's wrong with it?

    Jason Padgett does similar art nowadays:

    https://www.oxpal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Jason_Padgett_-_Energy_Spiral_(2008)_big.jpg

    https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/fractal-fusion-hw-equals-mc-squared-jason-padgett.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson

    What’s wrong with it?

    Nothing wrong with it.

    I just highly doubt God decided in the 7th century that he prefers geometric art to drawings of his creations.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    God works in mysterious ways or so they say!

  112. @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    Somewhat true, though there seems to be a worldwide network of elite criminals with similarly irrelevant Jewish heritage ;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    there seems to be a worldwide network of elite criminals with similarly irrelevant Jewish heritage

    I can name criminals of various nationalities that all deserve to be hanged publicly. Just a few that immediately come to mind: Bush Jr, Cheney, Blair, Obama, Biden, Killary, etc. I refuse to hold all Americans or Brits responsible for the crimes of these individuals.

    Every nationality has its scum. In my book, this scum should be punished as individuals, not the whole nations they come from. After all, you wouldn’t want to imprison the whole nation because some of its representatives are murderers.

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @AnonfromTN

    With jews, scum and villainy seems to be inherent and genetic however. Every nationality does have its scum and the rest shouldn't be judged for it, however jews are a nationality largely comprised of scum.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Adept

    , @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    I agree. The problem with large scale warfare is that many innocent people are effectively held accountable for the crimes and mistakes of their leaders.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  113. @AP
    @LT1488

    Galicia once stretched to the Black Sea.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/4d/03/a54d032b93a7b6c9a4a9189763baf9ba.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

    Those areas were under Galicia’s sphere of influence, not direct control, lots of Vlach tribes inhabited the region
    Also note how even this still excludes most of the lands below Cherkassy save for Podolia.

    • Replies: @AP
    @LT1488

    Zaporizhia was south of Cherkassy.

    As for the coast and Crimea, taking them was a project of both Ukrainians and Russians. Just as Ukrainians helped the Russians in the East. Makes sense to just divide this area by ethnicity.

  114. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    there seems to be a worldwide network of elite criminals with similarly irrelevant Jewish heritage
     
    I can name criminals of various nationalities that all deserve to be hanged publicly. Just a few that immediately come to mind: Bush Jr, Cheney, Blair, Obama, Biden, Killary, etc. I refuse to hold all Americans or Brits responsible for the crimes of these individuals.

    Every nationality has its scum. In my book, this scum should be punished as individuals, not the whole nations they come from. After all, you wouldn’t want to imprison the whole nation because some of its representatives are murderers.

    Replies: @LT1488, @QCIC

    With jews, scum and villainy seems to be inherent and genetic however. Every nationality does have its scum and the rest shouldn’t be judged for it, however jews are a nationality largely comprised of scum.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LT1488

    You should hang out with better Jews.

    In the Old Testament Solomon gets one free gift from the Great Big Model Railroader up in the Sky and he decides right quick what he would like is discernment. It's up to you.

    , @Adept
    @LT1488

    It's a product of their supremacist religion.

    Consider this: European (Ashkenazi) Jews and Iraqi Jews have nothing in common from a genetic standpoint. They're two entirely distinct populations. Yet the Iraqi Jews -- like the infamous Sassoon family -- are well known for being every bit as villainous as the worst of the Ashkenazis.

    Further, most Arabian Jews are hardly distinct from Arabian Muslims, at least insofar as their genetics are concerned.

    The poison is simply this: A religion which regards their little sect as "Chosen" -- as true humans -- and everybody else as second-rate or even animals in human form. This breeds a certain type of arrogance and impunity, even in those Jews who do not observe the various rituals their religion calls for.

    Needless to say, the religion has other deeply distasteful characteristics, such as absolute deference to tribal elders and an downright comic focus on legal wrangling with god.

    If the religion is done away with -- of course, this is no easy task -- then the problem is solved. One simply needs to tell the Jews: "Christ preached to you, more than to those other nations. It's time to accept him; time to become normal men amongst other normal men, and to love humanity."

    ...They know this, I suspect, which is why they recoil so violently from it.

  115. @Mr. Hack
    @LT1488

    And Mexico had really well developed cities, roads and government apparatus in AZ? :-)

    Replies: @LT1488

    False analogy.

  116. @A123
    @QCIC


    Zelensky as Nazi only plays with the Holocaust (Holohoax?) debunker crowd. They don’t hang out in this forum.
     
    Are you stating that Zelensky's Azov brigades use this symbology to be pro-Jewish?

     
    http://www.balancer.ru/sites/com/li/livejournal/pics/ic/da_dzi/8465174/296703/296703_original.jpg
     

    It is objectively true that Zelensky is a post-Judaic apostate who hates authentic Palestinian Jews.
    ___

    Is your goal to split hairs? You believe that anti-Semite Zelensky is only a neo-Nazi, not a full Nazi?

    Beyond his open and obvious hatred of Judaism and personal distance from that religion, I am not attached to specific labelling. I would be willing to concede his hatred of Jews is only neo-Nazi. Regardless of the label, his consent to dig up and desecrate Jewish graves for a condo project is proof of antipathy towards Judaism.

    The key point is that the Ukrainian side, under Zelensky's regime, is wholly non-Judaic in form and function. There may be some people with last names normally associated with ethnic lineage. However, there is nothing from Kiev's rule that ties to the practice of Judaism.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    I agree it is a complex situation. Don’t hurt yourself by working to better understand it.

    I suspect many of the Jewish leaders of this mess in Ukraine are more observant than you believe. Most likely they pick and chose aspects of their religion in an ad hoc manner as is very common in the secularized world. They may not fit your definitions of religious conformance and you may not fit theirs. I suspect the forcible secularization of the USSR combined with apparent loop-holes for Judaism led to all manner of craziness.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC

    You really need to stop having histrionic mental blowouts over the situation. It is quite intricate.

    I suspect that the anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi leaders have nothing to do with the practice of Judaism. This is much more coherent than your hysterical and irrational beliefs centered on "anti-Semitic Jew Nazis", which seems highly unlikely to exist in any significant quantity.

    This brings us back to the point I have made multiple times, which you still have not been able to refute. Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    Going forward, would you please try to be a bit less shrill & emotional?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

  117. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    What’s wrong with it?

    Nothing wrong with it.

    I just highly doubt God decided in the 7th century that he prefers geometric art to drawings of his creations.

    Replies: @QCIC

    God works in mysterious ways or so they say!

  118. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    there seems to be a worldwide network of elite criminals with similarly irrelevant Jewish heritage
     
    I can name criminals of various nationalities that all deserve to be hanged publicly. Just a few that immediately come to mind: Bush Jr, Cheney, Blair, Obama, Biden, Killary, etc. I refuse to hold all Americans or Brits responsible for the crimes of these individuals.

    Every nationality has its scum. In my book, this scum should be punished as individuals, not the whole nations they come from. After all, you wouldn’t want to imprison the whole nation because some of its representatives are murderers.

    Replies: @LT1488, @QCIC

    I agree. The problem with large scale warfare is that many innocent people are effectively held accountable for the crimes and mistakes of their leaders.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    The problem with large scale warfare is that many innocent people are effectively held accountable for the crimes and mistakes of their leaders.
     
    True enough. The wars are as close to collective punishment as we get. The worst thing is, a lot of innocent or not particularly guilty people suffer, whereas the instigators, who are the worst criminals, often escape scot-free.

    I only hope that if their puppet masters do not exterminate Kiev clown and his gang after they run away from the ship they sunk, Russian operatives will deliver justice. After all, there is precedent: Soviet operative killed Bandera (may he rot in Hell).

    Replies: @Beckow

  119. @LT1488
    @AnonfromTN

    With jews, scum and villainy seems to be inherent and genetic however. Every nationality does have its scum and the rest shouldn't be judged for it, however jews are a nationality largely comprised of scum.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Adept

    You should hang out with better Jews.

    In the Old Testament Solomon gets one free gift from the Great Big Model Railroader up in the Sky and he decides right quick what he would like is discernment. It’s up to you.

  120. @A123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate. Does this look Jewish to you?

     
    https://i0.wp.com/gdb.rferl.org/8EF4874F-A14F-48C8-9331-55B8D2CAF561_w640_s.jpg
     

    Zelensky went to Israel to intentionally offend Palestinian Jews. This was most noted by Likud and the religious parties. They called out anti-Semite Zelensky for his evil (1).

    Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Funny thing is that Anglin and the other anti-Jewish Putin defenders never mention that the dwarf has a Jewish propagandist who dresses like a villain from a James Bond movie:

    A picture of the two where Putin isn’t wearing his shoe lifts:
    Putin no longer allows himself to be photographed at his natural height.

    There is actually no reason to believe that Ukraine has more Neo-Nazis than Russia.

    Russia has more Neo-Nazi groups than Ukraine:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neo-Nazi_organizations

    There are Neo-Nazis fighting within the Russian military:
    https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.html

    A Slav anywhere larping as a Nazi is a loser. Hitler hated them all and planned on starving most Slavs to death.

  121. @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    I agree. The problem with large scale warfare is that many innocent people are effectively held accountable for the crimes and mistakes of their leaders.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    The problem with large scale warfare is that many innocent people are effectively held accountable for the crimes and mistakes of their leaders.

    True enough. The wars are as close to collective punishment as we get. The worst thing is, a lot of innocent or not particularly guilty people suffer, whereas the instigators, who are the worst criminals, often escape scot-free.

    I only hope that if their puppet masters do not exterminate Kiev clown and his gang after they run away from the ship they sunk, Russian operatives will deliver justice. After all, there is precedent: Soviet operative killed Bandera (may he rot in Hell).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...a lot of innocent or not particularly guilty people suffer, whereas the instigators, who are the worst criminals, often escape scot-free.
     
    True. But my contrarian self says that people are responsible for what happens to them - they didn't think it through.

    It takes two sides for a lie or a myth to exist. When outsiders come and tell you that "Bandera is the father of your nation", your relatives in Russia are Asiatic bastards living in 'zemlaynkas', Brussels can't wait to shower money on you, that the neo-cons in Washington think about your well-being all day and the Ukie oligarchs with their hired actors in Kiev are your saviors...well, aren't the people who believe it also responsible? One can't be that stupid and go on without consequences.

    There is a lot of guilt all around. But I wouldn't exempt the now suffering hoi polloi who jumped up and down on Maidan yelling "kill Moskali!!!" - or stood by grinning as others did it. And the instigators always know when to leave.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  122. In 1923, The London Morning Post, commenting on a speech the future King Edward made, said this:

    If the United States abolished its diplomatic and consular services, kept its ships in harbors and its tourists at home, and retired from the world’s markets, its citizens, its problems, its towns and countrysides, its roads, motor cars, counting houses and saloons would still be familiar in the utmost corners of the world.
    The film is to America what the flag was once to Britain. By its means, Uncle Sam may hope some day, if he be not checked in time, to Americanize this world.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    At the start of WWI, European films comprised about 60% of the American market, by 1920, this number had essentially fallen to zero.

    (You Are What You Watch)

    , @S
    @songbird


    The film is to America what the flag was once to Britain. By its means, Uncle Sam may hope some day, if he be not checked in time, to Americanize this world.
     
    That's a prescient and insightful comment made in 1923 by the future King Edward.

    However, in regards to the US/UK, it's always good to remind one's self now and again that due to the 'special relationship' formed circa 1900, the US and UK since that time have effectively been back together about the same number of years now as (due to the revolution) they had been officially and formally apart (ie 1776-1900), that they sometimes play good cop/bad cop towards the world, and that one cannot always be certain where the current real center of power of the US/UK geo-political ship is, ie is it New York, or, is it London?

    Replies: @songbird

  123. @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …Hispanics in Arizona would shut down the border if it were up to them.
     
    Probably, but is anything up to them? They are the working poor (mostly) and by the ancient Western standard they have to “earn” the right to have an opinion. If they have a wrong one it is ignored.

    The majority of Whites and Hispanics are ignored by both parties. I'm just pointing out an irony.

    At the end these ethnic distinctions will be irrelevant. The only thing that will matter is the reality on the ground – it is almost irreversible that most of the US Southwest will revert to its “pre-colonist” past with all the consequences.

    I don't know what you mean by that. New Mexico already has majority Hispanic rule. They didn't adopt some racial left-wing ideology. American born Hispanics are actually pretty moderate. They are both majority Democrat and Catholic. In fact they clash with pro-abortion White liberals but that is kept out of the MSM. White liberals in cities like LA are much more anti-gun than Hispanics. Liberals ignore the will of Democrat Hispanics.

    the great achievement of the Western Euros will be to make it possible for the assorted Third World natives to massively multiply and flood the earth. Just as they were told in the good book

    No it will be more like Brazil 2 but the Whites won't be as mixed. Enclaves of Whites with a Hispanic majority. It will however be amusing to watch liberal Whites explain why Whites can't be a minority or act collectively.

    Is that all the greatest civilization that ever was will leave behind? A few billion short, swarthy, fat, diabetic, sub-85 IQ losers? How do you run the world with people like that?

    If Putin had grown up around Guatemalans he'd probably have some confidence.

    Have a look at NYC demographics and especially the schools. It's already White minority and the stock market keeps ticking. NYC research firms continue their work. Not the end of the world. Whites work office jobs in Manhattan and then go home to the burbs in NJ. Is what it is.

    Both parties were never serious about the border. Republicans for years looked the other way for the sake of big AG. They are currently better than the Democrats but there was a long period where neither side wanted to do anything.

    Not my decision and my kids won't have to worry about it.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.

    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that…You have moved into escapism and ‘just live with it‘ attitude. The stuff about the “market is still up” – you should know that anything reflecting real values in times of money devaluation is always up. It is on the level of eating a steak and listening to the orchestra on the Titanic. Sure, there will be a boat for you, but the lifestyle is gone.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run. You got cornered, so you try to make the best out of it – and sure, they are good people. But what you had, what created a rather attractive society and economy for a few generations is disappearing. Same in Europe with different players.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that’s the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    The obsession that the struggling Euro-Atlantic countries have with attacking Russia instead of fixing their own internal problems is very odd. What do you care how tall is Putin? Or what language is taught in “Lugansk”? It is pathological – the willful escape into belated imperium expansion instead of making the lives at home better.

    What is worse is that from the start this was a bridge too far. The only scenario where the irrational Western attack on Russia through Ukraine – that’s what this is – could succeed is a complete military defeat of Russia. That is simply not possible, get it through your thick head – it is also not possible to completely defeat US or China. So why do a fool’s errand destined to fail? You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up. It looks like it can’t be corrected at this point. Maybe go for the nukes? Would the Hispanics in New Mexico approve?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing.
     
    Yes, that’s a real danger that both the US and Europe face. However, the elites appear to be dead set on a suicidal course. With massive election fraud normal people cannot influence anything.

    And white libs will die out.
     
    That would be the only good consequence of the ongoing process. If there is god, may they all rot in Hell.
    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.
     
    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that…You have moved into escapism and ‘just live with it‘ attitude.

    Escapism? I'm not going anywhere. It's called strategizing.

    Do tell how an individual can change the situation at this point.

    I'm also not a White nationalist and having Hispanic neighbors doesn't bother me. White liberals bother me far more than Hispanics. I've lived with White liberals and I will take Mexicans any day of the week. White liberals are not only soul sucking but their constant reality denial is incredibly tiring. You have to constantly watch what you say less they deem you as a Bad White that interrupts their gender/racial fantasies. It's very burdensome if you are the type that enjoys a variety of viewpoints. They really are like Stepford wives but with hybrids and organic grocery stores.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run.

    Brazil 2 is not my preference but I will be fine. I can always move to Canada or Ukraine, even Hungary. I have connections all over Europe.

    I live well and so will my children. They won't be at the mercy of the system. I prioritize my family over country.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that’s the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    White libs are certainly dying out. Hardcore liberalism is most likely an unfortunate gene combination that is ultimately dysgenic.

    As for absorption I think you are imagining Sao Paulo more than the current reality. I already pointed out how NYC is mostly non-White and they still generate more research than Eastern Europe. One small corner of NYC has more tech development than all of Russia. Russia's software market is actually smaller than Denmark. Thus this is more complicated than Whites being absorbed by Mestizos.

    I knew this was coming years ago. When I was in the South it was clear that most Whites were unable to handle reality. Texas Republicans looked the other way on the border for years. Most Whites cannot face the reality of race. They want either Christian creationism or liberalism to be true. Take it up with them. The minority that faces reality is shunned by both sides.

    You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up.

    You seem to keep assuming I support all US policy because I support Ukraine. I really don't have your tribal brain. I view the US as compromised by reality denial but still better than a second rate Slavic empire headed by a mass murdering dwarf.

    Anti-native immigration policy was actually exacerbated by Reagan even though he is a conservative hero. The real damage to this country however was done with the 1965 immigration act and all the Democrat policies that passed with the assumption that racial inequality is merely the White man being evil and holding everyone else back. Some of those policies were signed into law by Nixon who believed in lying about race. I have both Republicans and liberals in my history that fully admit the public needs to be told lies regarding race. Thus we have two sides that believe in lying. The resulting Brazil 2.0 will be unfortunate for the world as US innovation and research will decline but I will not only live well but better than average Whites in all White countries.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil
     
    Brazil does not have Hispanics. It has an almost completely different demographic profile, in most ways (very different elites, very different under underclass), than will the future USA. It’s a stupid comparison. The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas. Neither one of those is like Brazil.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you

     

    Mexican elites are smart; they may be less disciplined than American Anglo, Jewish and Asian elites but are they less disciplined than Spaniards? I suspect not. As for health - life expectancy for Hispanic Americans is higher than for Slovakia. Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages. Hispanic Americans also score better on PISA than your people do. They are probably smarter than you, too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

  124. @songbird
    In 1923, The London Morning Post, commenting on a speech the future King Edward made, said this:

    If the United States abolished its diplomatic and consular services, kept its ships in harbors and its tourists at home, and retired from the world’s markets, its citizens, its problems, its towns and countrysides, its roads, motor cars, counting houses and saloons would still be familiar in the utmost corners of the world.
    The film is to America what the flag was once to Britain. By its means, Uncle Sam may hope some day, if he be not checked in time, to Americanize this world.
     

    Replies: @songbird, @S

    At the start of WWI, European films comprised about 60% of the American market, by 1920, this number had essentially fallen to zero.

    (You Are What You Watch)

  125. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    The problem with large scale warfare is that many innocent people are effectively held accountable for the crimes and mistakes of their leaders.
     
    True enough. The wars are as close to collective punishment as we get. The worst thing is, a lot of innocent or not particularly guilty people suffer, whereas the instigators, who are the worst criminals, often escape scot-free.

    I only hope that if their puppet masters do not exterminate Kiev clown and his gang after they run away from the ship they sunk, Russian operatives will deliver justice. After all, there is precedent: Soviet operative killed Bandera (may he rot in Hell).

    Replies: @Beckow

    …a lot of innocent or not particularly guilty people suffer, whereas the instigators, who are the worst criminals, often escape scot-free.

    True. But my contrarian self says that people are responsible for what happens to them – they didn’t think it through.

    It takes two sides for a lie or a myth to exist. When outsiders come and tell you that “Bandera is the father of your nation“, your relatives in Russia are Asiatic bastards living in ‘zemlaynkas’, Brussels can’t wait to shower money on you, that the neo-cons in Washington think about your well-being all day and the Ukie oligarchs with their hired actors in Kiev are your saviors…well, aren’t the people who believe it also responsible? One can’t be that stupid and go on without consequences.

    There is a lot of guilt all around. But I wouldn’t exempt the now suffering hoi polloi who jumped up and down on Maidan yelling “kill Moskali!!!” – or stood by grinning as others did it. And the instigators always know when to leave.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    But I wouldn’t exempt the now suffering hoi polloi who jumped up and down on Maidan yelling “kill Moskali!!!” – or stood by grinning as others did it.
     
    Yes, many Ukrainians turned out to be dumber and more gullible than the nations depicted as dumb in Soviet-era jokes. But the Maidan and subsequent coup of 2014 was done by a minority. The majority expected to sit tight and survive through it all. That majority is also guilty, but only of stupidity and cowardice. Yet those who expected to survive are now dying at the front lines and will keep dying till the death of the regime. The dumbest of the Maidan and coup instigators and perpetrators who believed their own lies are also dying there, but too many of them have cushy positions far away from the front and are stealing like there is no tomorrow.

    There is a lot of guilt all around.
     
    There sure is, but the punishment should be commensurate with each person’s guilt. Unfortunately, usually it is not.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  126. According to Dima of Military Summary the Russians used a tunnel unknown to the Ukrainians to getting behind Ukrainian defences in South Avdeevka and encircle the forces there, who promptly surrendered. The most heavily fortified area of the front taken by sheer ingenuity.

  127. If Elon Musk’s tunnel technology was worth a damn the Ukies could have done the exact same thing. Did you ever watch The Great Escape? It’s pretty good.

  128. @QCIC
    @A123

    I agree it is a complex situation. Don't hurt yourself by working to better understand it.

    I suspect many of the Jewish leaders of this mess in Ukraine are more observant than you believe. Most likely they pick and chose aspects of their religion in an ad hoc manner as is very common in the secularized world. They may not fit your definitions of religious conformance and you may not fit theirs. I suspect the forcible secularization of the USSR combined with apparent loop-holes for Judaism led to all manner of craziness.

    Replies: @A123

    You really need to stop having histrionic mental blowouts over the situation. It is quite intricate.

    I suspect that the anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi leaders have nothing to do with the practice of Judaism. This is much more coherent than your hysterical and irrational beliefs centered on “anti-Semitic Jew Nazis”, which seems highly unlikely to exist in any significant quantity.

    This brings us back to the point I have made multiple times, which you still have not been able to refute. Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    Going forward, would you please try to be a bit less shrill & emotional?

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: QCIC
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    LOL. If you want shrill, try this from one of your allies:

    https://www.jta.org/2022/08/16/religion/exiled-ukrainian-oligarch-said-he-placed-jewish-death-curse-against-vladimir-putin

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  129. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.
     
    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that...You have moved into escapism and 'just live with it' attitude. The stuff about the "market is still up" - you should know that anything reflecting real values in times of money devaluation is always up. It is on the level of eating a steak and listening to the orchestra on the Titanic. Sure, there will be a boat for you, but the lifestyle is gone.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative - it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run. You got cornered, so you try to make the best out of it - and sure, they are good people. But what you had, what created a rather attractive society and economy for a few generations is disappearing. Same in Europe with different players.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that's the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    The obsession that the struggling Euro-Atlantic countries have with attacking Russia instead of fixing their own internal problems is very odd. What do you care how tall is Putin? Or what language is taught in "Lugansk"? It is pathological - the willful escape into belated imperium expansion instead of making the lives at home better.

    What is worse is that from the start this was a bridge too far. The only scenario where the irrational Western attack on Russia through Ukraine - that's what this is - could succeed is a complete military defeat of Russia. That is simply not possible, get it through your thick head - it is also not possible to completely defeat US or China. So why do a fool's errand destined to fail? You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up. It looks like it can't be corrected at this point. Maybe go for the nukes? Would the Hispanics in New Mexico approve?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson, @AP

    surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing.

    Yes, that’s a real danger that both the US and Europe face. However, the elites appear to be dead set on a suicidal course. With massive election fraud normal people cannot influence anything.

    And white libs will die out.

    That would be the only good consequence of the ongoing process. If there is god, may they all rot in Hell.

  130. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.
     
    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that...You have moved into escapism and 'just live with it' attitude. The stuff about the "market is still up" - you should know that anything reflecting real values in times of money devaluation is always up. It is on the level of eating a steak and listening to the orchestra on the Titanic. Sure, there will be a boat for you, but the lifestyle is gone.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative - it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run. You got cornered, so you try to make the best out of it - and sure, they are good people. But what you had, what created a rather attractive society and economy for a few generations is disappearing. Same in Europe with different players.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that's the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    The obsession that the struggling Euro-Atlantic countries have with attacking Russia instead of fixing their own internal problems is very odd. What do you care how tall is Putin? Or what language is taught in "Lugansk"? It is pathological - the willful escape into belated imperium expansion instead of making the lives at home better.

    What is worse is that from the start this was a bridge too far. The only scenario where the irrational Western attack on Russia through Ukraine - that's what this is - could succeed is a complete military defeat of Russia. That is simply not possible, get it through your thick head - it is also not possible to completely defeat US or China. So why do a fool's errand destined to fail? You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up. It looks like it can't be corrected at this point. Maybe go for the nukes? Would the Hispanics in New Mexico approve?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson, @AP

    …Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.

    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that…You have moved into escapism and ‘just live with it‘ attitude.

    Escapism? I’m not going anywhere. It’s called strategizing.

    Do tell how an individual can change the situation at this point.

    I’m also not a White nationalist and having Hispanic neighbors doesn’t bother me. White liberals bother me far more than Hispanics. I’ve lived with White liberals and I will take Mexicans any day of the week. White liberals are not only soul sucking but their constant reality denial is incredibly tiring. You have to constantly watch what you say less they deem you as a Bad White that interrupts their gender/racial fantasies. It’s very burdensome if you are the type that enjoys a variety of viewpoints. They really are like Stepford wives but with hybrids and organic grocery stores.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run.

    Brazil 2 is not my preference but I will be fine. I can always move to Canada or Ukraine, even Hungary. I have connections all over Europe.

    I live well and so will my children. They won’t be at the mercy of the system. I prioritize my family over country.

    [MORE]

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that’s the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    White libs are certainly dying out. Hardcore liberalism is most likely an unfortunate gene combination that is ultimately dysgenic.

    As for absorption I think you are imagining Sao Paulo more than the current reality. I already pointed out how NYC is mostly non-White and they still generate more research than Eastern Europe. One small corner of NYC has more tech development than all of Russia. Russia’s software market is actually smaller than Denmark. Thus this is more complicated than Whites being absorbed by Mestizos.

    I knew this was coming years ago. When I was in the South it was clear that most Whites were unable to handle reality. Texas Republicans looked the other way on the border for years. Most Whites cannot face the reality of race. They want either Christian creationism or liberalism to be true. Take it up with them. The minority that faces reality is shunned by both sides.

    You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up.

    You seem to keep assuming I support all US policy because I support Ukraine. I really don’t have your tribal brain. I view the US as compromised by reality denial but still better than a second rate Slavic empire headed by a mass murdering dwarf.

    Anti-native immigration policy was actually exacerbated by Reagan even though he is a conservative hero. The real damage to this country however was done with the 1965 immigration act and all the Democrat policies that passed with the assumption that racial inequality is merely the White man being evil and holding everyone else back. Some of those policies were signed into law by Nixon who believed in lying about race. I have both Republicans and liberals in my history that fully admit the public needs to be told lies regarding race. Thus we have two sides that believe in lying. The resulting Brazil 2.0 will be unfortunate for the world as US innovation and research will decline but I will not only live well but better than average Whites in all White countries.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    Well, I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote...and there isn't much anyone can do at this point.

    But mistakes have consequences and one has to look into the future and anticipate. The white libs will be gone, they are the classical dead-enders and have an interest in the future nor will they be a big part of it. The resulting society will be different - and my point is that there is no escaping it; one can hide for a generation or two in preserved enclaves, but then the s..t will hit the fan...and that innovation thing, yeah, too bad, it has been great while it lasted.


    It’s called strategizing.
     
    Strategy is by definition a longer-term vision - not how one avoids unfortunate situations for a few decades. You end up living on borrowed time.

    The combination of the liberal idiocy, greedy business "Reaganites", and of billions Third Worlders looking for a new home can be lethal. Maybe not, but still, how is sponsoring the bloody war between two big Euro nations in Ukraine helping? The refrain of "kill as many Russians as possible" also means the unspoken "kill as many Ukies"....this is madness, the final collapse of the Euro self-preservation instinct. And we thought WW1 and 2 were really stupid...

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Derer
    @John Johnson


    a second rate Slavic empire headed by a mass murdering dwarf.
     
    For the F sake why are you poison your posts with your brainless hate.

    -A country cannot be second rate by providing space ship for "hegemon's" space operation.

    -Putin cannot and will not allow enemy military bases in Ukraine - announced red line.

    -Washington will not allow enemy military bases in Mexico or Central America.

    -Washington killed 3.5 mil civilian on foreign soils since the WWII and you are talking about defending a nuclear superpower red line "murdering dwarf" - murdering dwarf is in Kiev.

    -After 75 years of Bolshevik yoke, Russia's path of improving their standard of living is constantly facing obstacles deliberately created by the "Empire of sanctions" as evidenced by the 90's looting or present sanctions and outright assets theft - actions paving confrontational future for decades.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

  131. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...a lot of innocent or not particularly guilty people suffer, whereas the instigators, who are the worst criminals, often escape scot-free.
     
    True. But my contrarian self says that people are responsible for what happens to them - they didn't think it through.

    It takes two sides for a lie or a myth to exist. When outsiders come and tell you that "Bandera is the father of your nation", your relatives in Russia are Asiatic bastards living in 'zemlaynkas', Brussels can't wait to shower money on you, that the neo-cons in Washington think about your well-being all day and the Ukie oligarchs with their hired actors in Kiev are your saviors...well, aren't the people who believe it also responsible? One can't be that stupid and go on without consequences.

    There is a lot of guilt all around. But I wouldn't exempt the now suffering hoi polloi who jumped up and down on Maidan yelling "kill Moskali!!!" - or stood by grinning as others did it. And the instigators always know when to leave.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    But I wouldn’t exempt the now suffering hoi polloi who jumped up and down on Maidan yelling “kill Moskali!!!” – or stood by grinning as others did it.

    Yes, many Ukrainians turned out to be dumber and more gullible than the nations depicted as dumb in Soviet-era jokes. But the Maidan and subsequent coup of 2014 was done by a minority. The majority expected to sit tight and survive through it all. That majority is also guilty, but only of stupidity and cowardice. Yet those who expected to survive are now dying at the front lines and will keep dying till the death of the regime. The dumbest of the Maidan and coup instigators and perpetrators who believed their own lies are also dying there, but too many of them have cushy positions far away from the front and are stealing like there is no tomorrow.

    There is a lot of guilt all around.

    There sure is, but the punishment should be commensurate with each person’s guilt. Unfortunately, usually it is not.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Yes, many Ukrainians turned out to be dumber and more gullible than the nations depicted as dumb in Soviet-era jokes. But the Maidan and subsequent coup of 2014 was done by a minority.

    Do explain how it was a minority coup given that Ukrainian parliament voted 328-0 to remove him and that included his own pro-Russian party.

    Can source that if you would like:

    Ukrainian Parliament votes 328-0 to impeach Yanukovych
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7028

    If a majority of Congress voted to impeach Biden for corruption would that be a coup by a minority?

    Are you saying the Ukrainians were stupid for not keeping a president whose corruption was so obscene that a single door on his mansion cost more than his salary as president?

    Replies: @Derer

  132. @LT1488
    @AP

    Those areas were under Galicia's sphere of influence, not direct control, lots of Vlach tribes inhabited the region
    Also note how even this still excludes most of the lands below Cherkassy save for Podolia.

    Replies: @AP

    Zaporizhia was south of Cherkassy.

    As for the coast and Crimea, taking them was a project of both Ukrainians and Russians. Just as Ukrainians helped the Russians in the East. Makes sense to just divide this area by ethnicity.

    • LOL: LT1488
  133. @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    Palestine!

    Replies: @Derer

    Is Palestine in Europe? You wasted my hint.

  134. @AP
    @Mikel


    The other difference between both countries is that the Israelis don’t try to insult our intelligence time and again saying that it’s not them, it’s the Palestinians who are bombing themselves. AP couldn’t help himself and found one of those fairy tales for dimwits.
     
    Here is the full description of that. Feel free to debunk it:

    https://malcontentment.com/unraveling-claims-of-ukrainian-involvement-donetsk-market-attack-points-to-russian-origination/

    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.




    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.


    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.



    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.


    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.

    Still image taken from a video provided by the so-called Donetsk People's Republic showing an impact crater on Lyashenka Street indicating that a non-fragmentation round on a high arc trajectory was used, fired west-southwest of the market.

    If Ukraine were responsible, the closest safe firing location would be 24.9 kilometers away, and even in Pobieda, the Russian D-20 152-millimeter howitzer would be at its absolute maximum range. At 24.9 kilometers, the M-777 or NATO standard self-propelled artillery pieces would be at or just beyond their standard range. Because Russian officials did not share any images of shrapnel, we have no way to authenticate the munition used.


    [WBHG News 24] – After a shocking incident in the occupied city of Donetsk that killed 28 and wounded 30 in the market area in the Kirovs’kyi District, evidence that has emerged surrounding the attack raises doubts about Russia’s claim of Ukrainian involvement. Russian state media, along with the self-proclaimed governor of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Denis Pushilin, alleged that Ukraine was responsible for shelling the area using 152 mm and 155 mm artillery, leaving 18 of the wounded hospitalized.

    A thorough analysis by our international analyst team casts doubt on the accusations, revealing a complex web of evidence that challenges the narrative quickly created by Russian authorities. Our team reviewed dozens of publicly available videos and images shared by Russian channels, state media, and propagandists and conducted an audio analysis of the attack itself while it was still in progress. Although a conclusive war crime assessment requires an on-site investigation, the publicly available information suggests that Ukraine was likely not responsible for the attack.

    Two things that hampered the investigation was an apparent effort by Russian state media and propagandists not to share images of impact craters, which is crucial for splash analysis. Despite these efforts, our team successfully geolocated hits at four locations and identified three impact craters, including one that provided information on the direction of the attack. Another critical revelation was the absence of key details from Russian officials, such as pictures of an official investigation or recovered shrapnel. This is highly unusual compared to other incidents, and the attack scene was hastily cleaned up before any apparent detailed investigation was made. Additionally, the nature of the craters photographed appear to be 82 or 120-millimeter mortars and don’t align with the artillery rounds mentioned by occupation governor Pushilin.


    A Russian provided image of an impact crater from the January 21, 2024 attack on a Donetsk market by War In My Eyes shows damage and splash pattern consistent with a mortar round.
    The impact crater at the base of a tree on Lyashenka Street near the bus stop indicates the shells were fired from the west-southwest, making it highly improbable that Ukrainian artillery was involved. The closest Ukrainian-controlled area in that direction is Pobieda, 17 kilometers away and only 2.5 kilometers from the line of conflict. The closest safe area for artillery to operate is another 7.9 kilometers west, near the village of Illinka.

    Still image taken from a video provided by the so-called Donetsk People's Republic showing an impact crater on Lyashenka Street indicating that a non-fragmentation round on a high arc trajectory was used, fired west-southwest of the market.
    If Ukraine were responsible, the closest safe firing location would be 24.9 kilometers away, and even in Pobieda, the Russian D-20 152-millimeter howitzer would be at its absolute maximum range. At 24.9 kilometers, the M-777 or NATO standard self-propelled artillery pieces would be at or just beyond their standard range. Because Russian officials did not share any images of shrapnel, we have no way to authenticate the munition used.

    Along with the impact crater at the base of the tree on Lyashenka Street, a video recorded during the attack provided critical information on the potential distance from the area attacked and the firing point. The Russian video shared on the popular Telegram channel Typical Donetsk captured the sound of outgoing rounds that impacted 2.5 and 4.25 seconds later. If the rounds were fired from M-777 artillery with a muzzle velocity of 870 meters per second, the maximum linear distance the round could travel is 3,700 meters, deep within the city of Donetsk itself. Factoring for the arc an artillery shell travels and the minimum possible range of the M-777, the distance drops to 2,300 meters. That’s an impossibly short distance for the rounds to have been fired by Ukraine.

    https://malcontentment.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/google-maps-russian-attack-donetsk-analysis-war-crime-false-flag-war-1024x576.jpg

    The timing of the attack is also suspect, occurring while Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was en route to a UN Security Council meeting, and the U.S. Congress remains poised to discuss continued military support for Ukraine.

    The available evidence suggests that the origin of the attack was in a forested area between the Kirovs’kyi and Petrovs’kyi Districts, approximately 2,000 to 3,000 meters west of the market area. Immediate claims that any combatant committed a war crime should receive a thorough investigation before news agencies directly quote national officials and report the claims as pure fact. The intricacies of this investigation underscore the importance of a thorough and unbiased examination of available evidence by subject matter experts.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Feel free to debunk it:

    Sure, I will do. But right now I need to finish debunking those stories about the Lugansk Square massacre being caused by exploding air conditioners, the MH-17 being downed by Ukrainian jets, Navalny being imprisoned because he was selling counterfeit Armani clothes, Lira dying of lack of exercise,… so many stories to debunk in that part of the world…

    I’ll let you know when I have the time to get to yours and we’ll have a weeks long debate. Only you have to promise to control yourself and avoid copy/pasting the same text several times, like you’ve done here.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    Feel free to debunk it:

    Sure, I will do. But right now I need to finish debunking those stories about the Lugansk Square massacre being caused by exploding air conditioners, the MH-17 being downed by Ukrainian jets, Navalny being imprisoned because he was selling counterfeit Armani clothes, Lira dying of lack of exercise
     
    I wasn't claiming any of those things, nor does what I posted fit in with them. I am agnostic about the Donetsk market (probably some local Ukrainian commander did it, but maybe not) and am genuinely curious about your response to what I posted, which seems reasonable.
  135. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.
     
    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that...You have moved into escapism and 'just live with it' attitude. The stuff about the "market is still up" - you should know that anything reflecting real values in times of money devaluation is always up. It is on the level of eating a steak and listening to the orchestra on the Titanic. Sure, there will be a boat for you, but the lifestyle is gone.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative - it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run. You got cornered, so you try to make the best out of it - and sure, they are good people. But what you had, what created a rather attractive society and economy for a few generations is disappearing. Same in Europe with different players.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that's the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    The obsession that the struggling Euro-Atlantic countries have with attacking Russia instead of fixing their own internal problems is very odd. What do you care how tall is Putin? Or what language is taught in "Lugansk"? It is pathological - the willful escape into belated imperium expansion instead of making the lives at home better.

    What is worse is that from the start this was a bridge too far. The only scenario where the irrational Western attack on Russia through Ukraine - that's what this is - could succeed is a complete military defeat of Russia. That is simply not possible, get it through your thick head - it is also not possible to completely defeat US or China. So why do a fool's errand destined to fail? You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up. It looks like it can't be corrected at this point. Maybe go for the nukes? Would the Hispanics in New Mexico approve?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson, @AP

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil

    Brazil does not have Hispanics. It has an almost completely different demographic profile, in most ways (very different elites, very different under underclass), than will the future USA. It’s a stupid comparison. The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas. Neither one of those is like Brazil.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you

    Mexican elites are smart; they may be less disciplined than American Anglo, Jewish and Asian elites but are they less disciplined than Spaniards? I suspect not. As for health – life expectancy for Hispanic Americans is higher than for Slovakia. Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages. Hispanic Americans also score better on PISA than your people do. They are probably smarter than you, too.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Brazil does not have Hispanics.
     
    ???? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics...don't go nuts on us again :)

    The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas.
     
    More like a combination of Guatemala and Saskatchewan, with a touch of Bangalore and Gambia. You can call it Dominican Republic 2.0...But keep on hoping, what else you got?

    Mexican elites are smart
     
    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe, with some of the highest quality people in the world?

    Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages.
     
    The advantage would be the heavy part...they are also very squat keeping them close to the ground. I have no idea what the Pissa-ing contest is that you constantly allude to, but my people can piss with the best of them. You are just envious...

    Let's see: the Hispanic swarthy cholitas vs. our ladies, is that even a contest? But I won't argue with your taste, after all you worship the Habsburgs, so there is something obviously missing...

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Brazil does not have Hispanics.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Conquista_Hispania.svg/1280px-Conquista_Hispania.svg.png

    Now, you were saying? ;)

    Replies: @AP, @QCIC

    , @LT1488
    @AP

    You seem to love hispanics more than your own slavic cousins (slovaks). Interesting

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  136. @Mikel
    @AP


    Feel free to debunk it:
     
    Sure, I will do. But right now I need to finish debunking those stories about the Lugansk Square massacre being caused by exploding air conditioners, the MH-17 being downed by Ukrainian jets, Navalny being imprisoned because he was selling counterfeit Armani clothes, Lira dying of lack of exercise,... so many stories to debunk in that part of the world...

    I'll let you know when I have the time to get to yours and we'll have a weeks long debate. Only you have to promise to control yourself and avoid copy/pasting the same text several times, like you've done here.

    Replies: @AP

    Feel free to debunk it:

    Sure, I will do. But right now I need to finish debunking those stories about the Lugansk Square massacre being caused by exploding air conditioners, the MH-17 being downed by Ukrainian jets, Navalny being imprisoned because he was selling counterfeit Armani clothes, Lira dying of lack of exercise

    I wasn’t claiming any of those things, nor does what I posted fit in with them. I am agnostic about the Donetsk market (probably some local Ukrainian commander did it, but maybe not) and am genuinely curious about your response to what I posted, which seems reasonable.

  137. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    But I wouldn’t exempt the now suffering hoi polloi who jumped up and down on Maidan yelling “kill Moskali!!!” – or stood by grinning as others did it.
     
    Yes, many Ukrainians turned out to be dumber and more gullible than the nations depicted as dumb in Soviet-era jokes. But the Maidan and subsequent coup of 2014 was done by a minority. The majority expected to sit tight and survive through it all. That majority is also guilty, but only of stupidity and cowardice. Yet those who expected to survive are now dying at the front lines and will keep dying till the death of the regime. The dumbest of the Maidan and coup instigators and perpetrators who believed their own lies are also dying there, but too many of them have cushy positions far away from the front and are stealing like there is no tomorrow.

    There is a lot of guilt all around.
     
    There sure is, but the punishment should be commensurate with each person’s guilt. Unfortunately, usually it is not.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Yes, many Ukrainians turned out to be dumber and more gullible than the nations depicted as dumb in Soviet-era jokes. But the Maidan and subsequent coup of 2014 was done by a minority.

    Do explain how it was a minority coup given that Ukrainian parliament voted 328-0 to remove him and that included his own pro-Russian party.

    Can source that if you would like:

    Ukrainian Parliament votes 328-0 to impeach Yanukovych
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7028

    If a majority of Congress voted to impeach Biden for corruption would that be a coup by a minority?

    Are you saying the Ukrainians were stupid for not keeping a president whose corruption was so obscene that a single door on his mansion cost more than his salary as president?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    YANUKOVICH ELECTION: 3149 OBSERVERS AND OECD DECLARED IT TRANSPARENT AND HONEST!

    The problem was his veto on placing Pentagon's (enemy) military base on Crimea.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

  138. @Mr. Hack
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Why pose such a ridiculous question to me, when anybody with eyes can see how Ukrainians react to the evil deeds of a real life devil like Putler? How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putler's Russia were to invade and cross Poland's borders and kill and savage everything in sight?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Derer

    How would you and the great majority of Poles react if Putin’s Russia were to invade

    People do not give serious answer to wild hallucination, especially when “the great majority of Poles” is not preoccupied with it. Gossips start from hallucination or dream.

  139. This guy was the Flash in the DC Universe:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller

    Thought his voice sounded kind of strange.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    His voice sounding strange means what?

    Whatever his problems, having a section in your wiki page titled "Vermont farm incidents" should count for something :)

    Replies: @songbird

  140. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Yes, many Ukrainians turned out to be dumber and more gullible than the nations depicted as dumb in Soviet-era jokes. But the Maidan and subsequent coup of 2014 was done by a minority.

    Do explain how it was a minority coup given that Ukrainian parliament voted 328-0 to remove him and that included his own pro-Russian party.

    Can source that if you would like:

    Ukrainian Parliament votes 328-0 to impeach Yanukovych
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7028

    If a majority of Congress voted to impeach Biden for corruption would that be a coup by a minority?

    Are you saying the Ukrainians were stupid for not keeping a president whose corruption was so obscene that a single door on his mansion cost more than his salary as president?

    Replies: @Derer

    YANUKOVICH ELECTION: 3149 OBSERVERS AND OECD DECLARED IT TRANSPARENT AND HONEST!

    The problem was his veto on placing Pentagon’s (enemy) military base on Crimea.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Derer

    Yanuk, even though he was elected by the majority, was corrupt. Of course, he was no more corrupt than Ukrainian presidents that preceded him (Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yuschenko), and a lot less corrupt than the two that followed (Poroshenko and Zelensky), but he was a thief by nature. His saving grace is that he was only a thief, whereas both Poroshenko and the clown are thieves and murderers at the same time.

    , @AP
    @Derer

    The problem was his overthrowing the parliament and taking over the courts, then rigging the system in order to hold onto power as his popularity sank. Had Yanukovich not done these things he would never have been overthrown.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  141. @A123
    @QCIC

    You really need to stop having histrionic mental blowouts over the situation. It is quite intricate.

    I suspect that the anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi leaders have nothing to do with the practice of Judaism. This is much more coherent than your hysterical and irrational beliefs centered on "anti-Semitic Jew Nazis", which seems highly unlikely to exist in any significant quantity.

    This brings us back to the point I have made multiple times, which you still have not been able to refute. Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    Going forward, would you please try to be a bit less shrill & emotional?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    My favorite curse story is in Tracy Twyman's Clock Shavings where she and her husband (who were in a Satanist-Dragon-Baphomet something cult) put a curse on their former business partner Boyd Rice who had screwed them out of a few hundred dollars.

    A month later Mr Twyman (that is her maiden name; I do not recall his real last name) was dead. Tracy remained in cult and within ten years she had suicided.

    She had a really high IQ if anybody is into that.

    Replies: @QCIC

  142. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    YANUKOVICH ELECTION: 3149 OBSERVERS AND OECD DECLARED IT TRANSPARENT AND HONEST!

    The problem was his veto on placing Pentagon's (enemy) military base on Crimea.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Yanuk, even though he was elected by the majority, was corrupt. Of course, he was no more corrupt than Ukrainian presidents that preceded him (Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yuschenko), and a lot less corrupt than the two that followed (Poroshenko and Zelensky), but he was a thief by nature. His saving grace is that he was only a thief, whereas both Poroshenko and the clown are thieves and murderers at the same time.

    • Thanks: Derer
  143. @A123
    @Derer

    There are only two Palestinian religions; Judaism dates back over 3,000 years; Christianity started there ~2,000 years ago.

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian Muslim. The concept is inherently irrational. How many Islamists were in Palestine:

    -- 400 BC?
    -- 200 BC?
    -- 0 AD/BC?
    -- 200 AD?
    -- 400 AD?

    The corrects answer is ZERO. The non-Palestinian religion of Islam arrived with Muhammad the Settler Prophet ~600 AD. Non-Palestinian Muslim colonists have been a scourge to the area for ~1,400 years.

    Palestinian Jews have hundreds of nuclear weapons, and their foes do not. The "official" estimates of only 200-300 are laughably low. Despite the geography, the followers of Muhammad the Settler can do very little. Deranged aggression would almost surely result in full planetary extinction of the human race.

    Sociopath Khamenei may be unhinged enough to try for events described in the Book of Revelation. There is no sign of any other leader in the region that detached from reality.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird, @Derer

    That 3000 year old Judaism does not play any role for today ME. Unfortunately, the Judaism attracted only 16 millions for 3000 years while constantly changing address (left Palestine) and Islam attracted billion+. Avery tribe was nomadic not only Muslims.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Unfortunately, the Judaism attracted only 16 millions for 3000 years while constantly changing address (left Palestine) and Islam attracted billion+.

    Well Judaism isn't trying to attract anyone. It's one of the few religions that discourages conversion. It is most likely eugenic because even a marriage convert has to be approved and pass academic tests. Even after that a local rabbi can reject the marriage for any reason. So they discourage marrying the local ditz because she is good looking.

    Islam also did not attract a billion people. Most of Islam's expansion was through conquest and birth rates. It was not voluntary. Very few people join Islam because they think it sounds appealing. You are either born or forced into it.

  144. @QCIC
    @A123

    LOL. If you want shrill, try this from one of your allies:

    https://www.jta.org/2022/08/16/religion/exiled-ukrainian-oligarch-said-he-placed-jewish-death-curse-against-vladimir-putin

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    My favorite curse story is in Tracy Twyman’s Clock Shavings where she and her husband (who were in a Satanist-Dragon-Baphomet something cult) put a curse on their former business partner Boyd Rice who had screwed them out of a few hundred dollars.

    A month later Mr Twyman (that is her maiden name; I do not recall his real last name) was dead. Tracy remained in cult and within ten years she had suicided.

    She had a really high IQ if anybody is into that.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I guess that's what happens if you open a portal to hell.

  145. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    My favorite curse story is in Tracy Twyman's Clock Shavings where she and her husband (who were in a Satanist-Dragon-Baphomet something cult) put a curse on their former business partner Boyd Rice who had screwed them out of a few hundred dollars.

    A month later Mr Twyman (that is her maiden name; I do not recall his real last name) was dead. Tracy remained in cult and within ten years she had suicided.

    She had a really high IQ if anybody is into that.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I guess that’s what happens if you open a portal to hell.

  146. @songbird
    This guy was the Flash in the DC Universe:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Miller

    Thought his voice sounded kind of strange.

    Replies: @QCIC

    His voice sounding strange means what?

    Whatever his problems, having a section in your wiki page titled “Vermont farm incidents” should count for something 🙂

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC


    His voice sounding strange means what?
     
    Can't really articulate it too well other than to say not like a hero's voice. Not steady and masculine, but more high-pitched, and almost like it keeps cracking into a lisp. At best, it sounds very wussy and emasculated, but also possibly like the voice of a crazy homo.

    It's strange to me that they cast him as a hero. But I never saw the Flash movie.

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123

  147. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    YANUKOVICH ELECTION: 3149 OBSERVERS AND OECD DECLARED IT TRANSPARENT AND HONEST!

    The problem was his veto on placing Pentagon's (enemy) military base on Crimea.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    The problem was his overthrowing the parliament and taking over the courts, then rigging the system in order to hold onto power as his popularity sank. Had Yanukovich not done these things he would never have been overthrown.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Yanukovych and his political allies made a huge political blunder in not holding new parliamentary elections back in 2010. I know that money was a factor, but still, it would have significantly added to their legitimacy had they won them. It was also a huge failure on the part of Ukraine's courts to actually allow this not to occur and instead for Yanukovych to illegally acquire a parliamentary majority through unconstitutional party flipping. Had pro-Russian forces won the 2010 Ukrainian elections, Ukraine might be in the Eurasian Economic Union right now and for the indefinite future. Would pro-Western forces have actually been willing to pull Ukraine out of it had they subsequently won elections in Ukraine? Especially without a referendum? Demographics were trending against Eurasia in Ukraine, very true, but status quo bias can be a powerful factor.

    FWIW, I suspect that Sergei Tihipko's party might have ended up as the kingmaker had new Ukrainian parliamentary elections been held back in 2010. Would he and his party have supported Eurasia at the expense of Europe? What about if his party would have subsequently merged into the Party of Regions? Would they have then been compelled to support Eurasia or would they subsequently withdraw from the Party of Regions and support Europe instead?

  148. Chinese man joins Russian military

    Decides that winter sucks

    A 40 minute walk in the snow you guys!! SERIOUS BUSINESS!!

    What a city boy. My kids have played for 2 hours in thick snow. Pretty much running the entire time. I had to tell them to come inside.

  149. @QCIC
    @songbird

    His voice sounding strange means what?

    Whatever his problems, having a section in your wiki page titled "Vermont farm incidents" should count for something :)

    Replies: @songbird

    His voice sounding strange means what?

    Can’t really articulate it too well other than to say not like a hero’s voice. Not steady and masculine, but more high-pitched, and almost like it keeps cracking into a lisp. At best, it sounds very wussy and emasculated, but also possibly like the voice of a crazy homo.

    It’s strange to me that they cast him as a hero. But I never saw the Flash movie.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    I have heard the name. I think he has been doing weird things for a long time.

    He is a very intentional androgynous casting choice for a hero intended to blur the lines and confuse people.

    He/she may be a female to male transgender hormone therapy person or a natural hermaphrodite.

    , @A123
    @songbird

    Flash was a humorous support character used in limited doses. Ezra Miller was known to be difficult, but very funny when he was in the right head space. Creating a stand-alone Flash movie was a mistake. Then, Ezra Miller went off the rails including assault, being arrested, etc. This turned the mistake into a fiasco.

    The Flash lost money, but was not the worst superhero mistake of the year. The Marvels cost $100M more and earned less.

    https://the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Flash-The/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

    Projects completed last year, that have yet to come out, are an on rushing avalanche of failure. Madame Web will be coming out for Valentine's Day.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yBKFHPn2F1k

    Are you excited ?!?!?!

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird

  150. @songbird
    @QCIC


    His voice sounding strange means what?
     
    Can't really articulate it too well other than to say not like a hero's voice. Not steady and masculine, but more high-pitched, and almost like it keeps cracking into a lisp. At best, it sounds very wussy and emasculated, but also possibly like the voice of a crazy homo.

    It's strange to me that they cast him as a hero. But I never saw the Flash movie.

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123

    I have heard the name. I think he has been doing weird things for a long time.

    He is a very intentional androgynous casting choice for a hero intended to blur the lines and confuse people.

    He/she may be a female to male transgender hormone therapy person or a natural hermaphrodite.

    • Agree: songbird
  151. @songbird
    @QCIC


    His voice sounding strange means what?
     
    Can't really articulate it too well other than to say not like a hero's voice. Not steady and masculine, but more high-pitched, and almost like it keeps cracking into a lisp. At best, it sounds very wussy and emasculated, but also possibly like the voice of a crazy homo.

    It's strange to me that they cast him as a hero. But I never saw the Flash movie.

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123

    Flash was a humorous support character used in limited doses. Ezra Miller was known to be difficult, but very funny when he was in the right head space. Creating a stand-alone Flash movie was a mistake. Then, Ezra Miller went off the rails including assault, being arrested, etc. This turned the mistake into a fiasco.

    The Flash lost money, but was not the worst superhero mistake of the year. The Marvels cost $100M more and earned less.

    https://the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Flash-The/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

    Projects completed last year, that have yet to come out, are an on rushing avalanche of failure. Madame Web will be coming out for Valentine’s Day.

    Are you excited ?!?!?!

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Who are these White guys that spend all day ranting about how Disney is doing everything wrong?

    Do they feel entitled to Marvel movies that cater to them?

    I really don't get how grown men can be so attached to comic book movies.

    Was there ever a golden age of comic book movies?

    The 90s Batman movies are corny as hell. I couldn't get through 10 minutes of the one with Jim Carrey. I'm really not getting the whine. Comic book characters aren't real. I really don't get the fascination.

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123, @songbird

    , @songbird
    @A123

    Most of the Spiderman actors seemed reasonably masculine, even though they played a nerdy character, to a certain extent. (BTW, interesting how all three played gay characters in other things, though Maguire was the only one to do it beforehand.)

    These female superhero movies are interesting because for the most part they can't seem to be explained by some of the normal explanations for superhero movies:
    1.) Capitalizing on nostalgia
    2.) Merchandizing
    3.) Sequels

    Though I suppose Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman did well.

    Replies: @A123

  152. @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    I think the biggest Western lie of the conflict in Ukraine is one of omission. The majority of the Western political and media classes feign ignorance of the prior aggressive history of the West toward Russia on crucial issues such as expansion of NATO, dropping the ABM treaty and placing missile bases in Eastern Europe. A close corollary lie is the pretense that this conflict started in 2022.

    The notion Russia is expansionist is an easy meme to sell on the Western street. It has the bonus feature that while untrue, it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy in the wake of the Western-caused SMO.

    Replies: @Sean

    The old ‘getting ready to fight the last war’ trope. There is an assumption that WW3 if it starts will start like WW2, not WW1.

  153. Baseball Doesn’t Exist does Japan

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    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I think you are lost. On the home page Sailer is just above.

    Replies: @Sean, @Emil Nikola Richard

  154. @AP
    @Beckow


    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil
     
    Brazil does not have Hispanics. It has an almost completely different demographic profile, in most ways (very different elites, very different under underclass), than will the future USA. It’s a stupid comparison. The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas. Neither one of those is like Brazil.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you

     

    Mexican elites are smart; they may be less disciplined than American Anglo, Jewish and Asian elites but are they less disciplined than Spaniards? I suspect not. As for health - life expectancy for Hispanic Americans is higher than for Slovakia. Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages. Hispanic Americans also score better on PISA than your people do. They are probably smarter than you, too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

    …Brazil does not have Hispanics.

    ???? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics…don’t go nuts on us again 🙂

    The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas.

    More like a combination of Guatemala and Saskatchewan, with a touch of Bangalore and Gambia. You can call it Dominican Republic 2.0…But keep on hoping, what else you got?

    Mexican elites are smart

    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe, with some of the highest quality people in the world?

    Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages.

    The advantage would be the heavy part…they are also very squat keeping them close to the ground. I have no idea what the Pissa-ing contest is that you constantly allude to, but my people can piss with the best of them. You are just envious…

    Let’s see: the Hispanic swarthy cholitas vs. our ladies, is that even a contest? But I won’t argue with your taste, after all you worship the Habsburgs, so there is something obviously missing…

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    …Brazil does not have Hispanics.

    ???? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics…don’t go nuts on us again
     
    They are Latinos, not not Hispanic. The corresponding term for those of Portuguese origin might be Lusitanian.

    Your ignorance shines, as usual.


    The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas.

    More like a combination of Guatemala and Saskatchewan, with a touch of Bangalore and Gambia
     

    Not enough Central Americans, nor Africans for that. And America gets higher caste Hindus (poor ones go to UK), so nothing like Bangalore.

    Mexican elites are smart

    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe
     

    They are as smart as Spaniards. But they live among a different people, and have very nice lives amongst them. Their class surroundings are prosperous and safe.

    But America will not be another Mexico either. Mexico doesn't have an Anglo legal framework, nor is it 35% or so Anglo as America will be. If Mexico had these things, it wouldn't be Mexico.

    No, future America will be a lot like modern Texas or California.

    It will be a unique entity, Anglo legal framework, Anglo-Euro-Jewish-Asian elite, castizo middle and working class* (perhaps more Mestizo as one gets poorer), and Black underclass. The occasional African or upper class Cuban/Spaniard in Miami for an exotic touch. With the American Great Power inheritance, and abundant natural resources. Not too bad.


    Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages.

    The advantage would be the heavy part
     

    As I said, they live long lives. Longer than people in Slovakia.

    I have no idea what the Pissa-ing contest is that you constantly allude to,
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-new-2018-pisa-school-test-scores-usa-usa/

    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.


    You are just envious
     
    You are probably just bitter because you couldn't stay in the USA and had to go back. Just sour grapes.

    Let’s see: the Hispanic swarthy cholitas vs. our ladies, is that even a contest?
     
    Not my taste, besides - Ukrainian and Russian girls are even better than Slovak ones. But taste varies.

    *Not like the ones in Chile or elsewhere in South America though. The Americans ones will be people who are 1/2 Anglo, 1/4 Indian, and 1/4 Med. Like this lady:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/c6/be/1bc6be58c51cc6cf4a384655455e3115.jpg

    Or this guy:

    https://www.cityoflawrence.org/sites/default/files/voices/DanielG.jpg

    Apparently the original Wonder Woman actress from the 70s, Linda Carter, was half Mexican and half Irish.

    https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/lynda-carter-young-small.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe, with some of the highest quality people in the world?

     

    Well, Indian Brahmins are also pretty smart, especially at their full potential (no malnutrition, iodine deficiency, or parasitic disease load), but they also run a very shitty country, though one that is also developing rapidly.
  155. @A123
    @songbird

    Flash was a humorous support character used in limited doses. Ezra Miller was known to be difficult, but very funny when he was in the right head space. Creating a stand-alone Flash movie was a mistake. Then, Ezra Miller went off the rails including assault, being arrested, etc. This turned the mistake into a fiasco.

    The Flash lost money, but was not the worst superhero mistake of the year. The Marvels cost $100M more and earned less.

    https://the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Flash-The/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

    Projects completed last year, that have yet to come out, are an on rushing avalanche of failure. Madame Web will be coming out for Valentine's Day.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yBKFHPn2F1k

    Are you excited ?!?!?!

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird

    Who are these White guys that spend all day ranting about how Disney is doing everything wrong?

    Do they feel entitled to Marvel movies that cater to them?

    I really don’t get how grown men can be so attached to comic book movies.

    Was there ever a golden age of comic book movies?

    The 90s Batman movies are corny as hell. I couldn’t get through 10 minutes of the one with Jim Carrey. I’m really not getting the whine. Comic book characters aren’t real. I really don’t get the fascination.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Some of the comic book movies have their moments.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFJ6UZ0SkYY

    , @A123
    @John Johnson


    I really don’t get how grown men can be so attached to comic book movies.
     
    Disparu's livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat "larger than life". It is part of the shtick.

    Good comic book and sci-fi movies can deliver stories that other genres cannot. They provide the opportunity for character development.

    • Tony Stark was egotistical POS
    • Peter Parker held his dying Uncle Ben in his arms
    • Bruce Wayne's parents were gunned down

    All of these flawed humans had story arcs to become much more than they once were. And, a certain generation of boys grew up with these archetypes. Do you have any childhood heroes?

    No one complained when Samuel Jackson was cast as Nick Fury. Pigmentation was irrelevant. He delivered on the character's background. Perhaps made it even grittier and more engaging.

    The frustration is when the creators choose to be SJW Woke instead of respecting the classic source material. For The Marvels they tapped three failed modern era comic books to give the public Carol Danvers, Kamala Khan, and Monica Rambeua.

    Mocking the humiliating failure generates entertaining content. It should also guide the studios towards what customers with money will actually pay for. How is that objectionable?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @songbird
    @John Johnson

    US is the global cultural hegemon, in large part:


    The European Union has a trade deficit on audiovisual products with the United States of $8 billion to $9 billion annually, half of which is television shows. Globally, US production accounts for about half of the total audiovisual trade. Worldwide, 85 percent of television exports from one country to another come from the United States
     
    (YAWYW)

    And comic book movies are one of the leading studio vehicles, so it makes sense they receive a lot of criticism.

    I couldn’t get through 10 minutes of the one with Jim Carrey.
     
    The Schumacher films were deliberately tonally different than the Burton ones. Not sure Batman directly killed anyone.

    The idea that violent movies lead to real world violence appears to be mistaken - actually the opposite seems to be true or was true, they seem to decrease violence ever so slightly. (Though I don't think it has ever been tested with home theaters, or how people can now drink in many theaters)

    I can respect the choice to try to make lighter fare, though the movies weren't my cup of tea. That said, don't think they were woke as the current ones - probably, the effect of time.

    Personally, I'd like the era of comic book movies to be over, but I don't think it is going away.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  156. @Derer
    @A123

    That 3000 year old Judaism does not play any role for today ME. Unfortunately, the Judaism attracted only 16 millions for 3000 years while constantly changing address (left Palestine) and Islam attracted billion+. Avery tribe was nomadic not only Muslims.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Unfortunately, the Judaism attracted only 16 millions for 3000 years while constantly changing address (left Palestine) and Islam attracted billion+.

    Well Judaism isn’t trying to attract anyone. It’s one of the few religions that discourages conversion. It is most likely eugenic because even a marriage convert has to be approved and pass academic tests. Even after that a local rabbi can reject the marriage for any reason. So they discourage marrying the local ditz because she is good looking.

    Islam also did not attract a billion people. Most of Islam’s expansion was through conquest and birth rates. It was not voluntary. Very few people join Islam because they think it sounds appealing. You are either born or forced into it.

  157. @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.
     
    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that…You have moved into escapism and ‘just live with it‘ attitude.

    Escapism? I'm not going anywhere. It's called strategizing.

    Do tell how an individual can change the situation at this point.

    I'm also not a White nationalist and having Hispanic neighbors doesn't bother me. White liberals bother me far more than Hispanics. I've lived with White liberals and I will take Mexicans any day of the week. White liberals are not only soul sucking but their constant reality denial is incredibly tiring. You have to constantly watch what you say less they deem you as a Bad White that interrupts their gender/racial fantasies. It's very burdensome if you are the type that enjoys a variety of viewpoints. They really are like Stepford wives but with hybrids and organic grocery stores.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run.

    Brazil 2 is not my preference but I will be fine. I can always move to Canada or Ukraine, even Hungary. I have connections all over Europe.

    I live well and so will my children. They won't be at the mercy of the system. I prioritize my family over country.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that’s the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    White libs are certainly dying out. Hardcore liberalism is most likely an unfortunate gene combination that is ultimately dysgenic.

    As for absorption I think you are imagining Sao Paulo more than the current reality. I already pointed out how NYC is mostly non-White and they still generate more research than Eastern Europe. One small corner of NYC has more tech development than all of Russia. Russia's software market is actually smaller than Denmark. Thus this is more complicated than Whites being absorbed by Mestizos.

    I knew this was coming years ago. When I was in the South it was clear that most Whites were unable to handle reality. Texas Republicans looked the other way on the border for years. Most Whites cannot face the reality of race. They want either Christian creationism or liberalism to be true. Take it up with them. The minority that faces reality is shunned by both sides.

    You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up.

    You seem to keep assuming I support all US policy because I support Ukraine. I really don't have your tribal brain. I view the US as compromised by reality denial but still better than a second rate Slavic empire headed by a mass murdering dwarf.

    Anti-native immigration policy was actually exacerbated by Reagan even though he is a conservative hero. The real damage to this country however was done with the 1965 immigration act and all the Democrat policies that passed with the assumption that racial inequality is merely the White man being evil and holding everyone else back. Some of those policies were signed into law by Nixon who believed in lying about race. I have both Republicans and liberals in my history that fully admit the public needs to be told lies regarding race. Thus we have two sides that believe in lying. The resulting Brazil 2.0 will be unfortunate for the world as US innovation and research will decline but I will not only live well but better than average Whites in all White countries.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    Well, I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote…and there isn’t much anyone can do at this point.

    But mistakes have consequences and one has to look into the future and anticipate. The white libs will be gone, they are the classical dead-enders and have an interest in the future nor will they be a big part of it. The resulting society will be different – and my point is that there is no escaping it; one can hide for a generation or two in preserved enclaves, but then the s..t will hit the fan…and that innovation thing, yeah, too bad, it has been great while it lasted.

    It’s called strategizing.

    Strategy is by definition a longer-term vision – not how one avoids unfortunate situations for a few decades. You end up living on borrowed time.

    The combination of the liberal idiocy, greedy business “Reaganites”, and of billions Third Worlders looking for a new home can be lethal. Maybe not, but still, how is sponsoring the bloody war between two big Euro nations in Ukraine helping? The refrain of “kill as many Russians as possible” also means the unspoken “kill as many Ukies”….this is madness, the final collapse of the Euro self-preservation instinct. And we thought WW1 and 2 were really stupid…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    But mistakes have consequences and one has to look into the future and anticipate. The white libs will be gone, they are the classical dead-enders and have an interest in the future nor will they be a big part of it. The resulting society will be different – and my point is that there is no escaping it

    I don't see why you are expecting such dire results and speak of the future of America as if it will be the apocalypse.

    Escaping what? The sounds like fear. I live well and if more of my neighbors are Hispanic then I will eat more Mexican food. Oh well.

    Liberal Whites are choosing to not have children and they will be replaced with Hispanics. I can accept that and move on. They chose their secular Wakanda religion that says all people can be replaced with anyone and the results will be the same. History will prove that they are morons and I will eat steak tacos.

    I really don't understand the escape part. Maybe you watch too many movies and assume Hispanic gangs are everywhere? In Texas it is the norm for Whites to own small businesses with Hispanic workers. Everyone just kind of shrugs at it. You call some service, talk to the White owner and then he shows up with Hispanic workers. So what? Everyone gets along.

    It's Black areas that have a lot of problems. You can't even order certain types of services in Black areas. In fact a man delivering wood in Ft Worth was just beaten to death by a naked man of unknown race. It made national news but they of course kept out of a picture of the assailant so it's just a mystery to everyone as to which race it was. Could have been anyone high on PCP and beating a White man to death. Probably an Eskimo is my guess.

    Strategy is by definition a longer-term vision – not how one avoids unfortunate situations for a few decades. You end up living on borrowed time.

    Borrowed time against what? California? Mexico? What is the worst case scenario? I'd rather live in Mexico than with White liberals. You seem to want me to feel anxious about my situation. It's really amusing. I'm not a fascist and I can adapt. In fact I will laugh as the left tries to explain how Whites can't be a minority and how Wakanda didn't happen with a non-White majority. We already knew it wouldn't after watching California. Kind of a duh. Oh well, I don't control Whites and it was clear to me in college that the intelligent ones are actually more likely to seek out race denial based theories. They would use their intelligence to either lie or come up with some contrived explanation that "just happens" to ignore race. They can't handle it.

    The combination of the liberal idiocy, greedy business “Reaganites”, and of billions Third Worlders looking for a new home can be lethal. Maybe not, but still, how is sponsoring the bloody war between two big Euro nations in Ukraine helping?

    You mean partially sponsoring the defense of Ukraine. The Ukrainians don't want to live under Russian rule and that has been true since the revolution. I fully support sending them hand me down equipment like Bradleys. America has a history of providing military equipment to nations that seek freedom from imperial and expansionist empires. You support Russia and I support Ukraine. Not sure why you can't accept that and move on.

    The refrain of “kill as many Russians as possible” also means the unspoken “kill as many Ukies”….this is madness, the final collapse of the Euro self-preservation instinct.

    Russia has negative population growth and especially among its urban Slavs so I don't see why letting Putin gobble up Ukraine would encourage a self-preservation instinct. They don't have it as seen by their negative birth rate and marching men off to the front will make it worst. The Russian Muslims however have high population growth.

  158. @Emil Nikola Richard
    Baseball Doesn't Exist does Japan



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbSWjb3tlJg

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think you are lost. On the home page Sailer is just above.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @QCIC

    Europe freeloads on the US for defence. Japan does not.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    No.

    Sailerville cannot grok the reality of Shoei Otani. He is the poster boy hero for trauma recovery in 2024.

    https://media.gq.com/photos/61d8a03be93c95dc9bbfbda5/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/shohei-ohtani-gq-sports-feburary-2022-Cover.jpg

    The video could use more polished editing for conciseness but the data in there is gold. They left out the part where he sleeps twelve hours a day; seems to be the only important part omitted.

    Replies: @S

  159. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Who are these White guys that spend all day ranting about how Disney is doing everything wrong?

    Do they feel entitled to Marvel movies that cater to them?

    I really don't get how grown men can be so attached to comic book movies.

    Was there ever a golden age of comic book movies?

    The 90s Batman movies are corny as hell. I couldn't get through 10 minutes of the one with Jim Carrey. I'm really not getting the whine. Comic book characters aren't real. I really don't get the fascination.

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123, @songbird

    Some of the comic book movies have their moments.

    [MORE]

  160. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I think you are lost. On the home page Sailer is just above.

    Replies: @Sean, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Europe freeloads on the US for defence. Japan does not.

  161. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    Well, I actually agree with a lot of what you wrote...and there isn't much anyone can do at this point.

    But mistakes have consequences and one has to look into the future and anticipate. The white libs will be gone, they are the classical dead-enders and have an interest in the future nor will they be a big part of it. The resulting society will be different - and my point is that there is no escaping it; one can hide for a generation or two in preserved enclaves, but then the s..t will hit the fan...and that innovation thing, yeah, too bad, it has been great while it lasted.


    It’s called strategizing.
     
    Strategy is by definition a longer-term vision - not how one avoids unfortunate situations for a few decades. You end up living on borrowed time.

    The combination of the liberal idiocy, greedy business "Reaganites", and of billions Third Worlders looking for a new home can be lethal. Maybe not, but still, how is sponsoring the bloody war between two big Euro nations in Ukraine helping? The refrain of "kill as many Russians as possible" also means the unspoken "kill as many Ukies"....this is madness, the final collapse of the Euro self-preservation instinct. And we thought WW1 and 2 were really stupid...

    Replies: @John Johnson

    But mistakes have consequences and one has to look into the future and anticipate. The white libs will be gone, they are the classical dead-enders and have an interest in the future nor will they be a big part of it. The resulting society will be different – and my point is that there is no escaping it

    I don’t see why you are expecting such dire results and speak of the future of America as if it will be the apocalypse.

    Escaping what? The sounds like fear. I live well and if more of my neighbors are Hispanic then I will eat more Mexican food. Oh well.

    Liberal Whites are choosing to not have children and they will be replaced with Hispanics. I can accept that and move on. They chose their secular Wakanda religion that says all people can be replaced with anyone and the results will be the same. History will prove that they are morons and I will eat steak tacos.

    I really don’t understand the escape part. Maybe you watch too many movies and assume Hispanic gangs are everywhere? In Texas it is the norm for Whites to own small businesses with Hispanic workers. Everyone just kind of shrugs at it. You call some service, talk to the White owner and then he shows up with Hispanic workers. So what? Everyone gets along.

    It’s Black areas that have a lot of problems. You can’t even order certain types of services in Black areas. In fact a man delivering wood in Ft Worth was just beaten to death by a naked man of unknown race. It made national news but they of course kept out of a picture of the assailant so it’s just a mystery to everyone as to which race it was. Could have been anyone high on PCP and beating a White man to death. Probably an Eskimo is my guess.

    [MORE]

    Strategy is by definition a longer-term vision – not how one avoids unfortunate situations for a few decades. You end up living on borrowed time.

    Borrowed time against what? California? Mexico? What is the worst case scenario? I’d rather live in Mexico than with White liberals. You seem to want me to feel anxious about my situation. It’s really amusing. I’m not a fascist and I can adapt. In fact I will laugh as the left tries to explain how Whites can’t be a minority and how Wakanda didn’t happen with a non-White majority. We already knew it wouldn’t after watching California. Kind of a duh. Oh well, I don’t control Whites and it was clear to me in college that the intelligent ones are actually more likely to seek out race denial based theories. They would use their intelligence to either lie or come up with some contrived explanation that “just happens” to ignore race. They can’t handle it.

    The combination of the liberal idiocy, greedy business “Reaganites”, and of billions Third Worlders looking for a new home can be lethal. Maybe not, but still, how is sponsoring the bloody war between two big Euro nations in Ukraine helping?

    You mean partially sponsoring the defense of Ukraine. The Ukrainians don’t want to live under Russian rule and that has been true since the revolution. I fully support sending them hand me down equipment like Bradleys. America has a history of providing military equipment to nations that seek freedom from imperial and expansionist empires. You support Russia and I support Ukraine. Not sure why you can’t accept that and move on.

    The refrain of “kill as many Russians as possible” also means the unspoken “kill as many Ukies”….this is madness, the final collapse of the Euro self-preservation instinct.

    Russia has negative population growth and especially among its urban Slavs so I don’t see why letting Putin gobble up Ukraine would encourage a self-preservation instinct. They don’t have it as seen by their negative birth rate and marching men off to the front will make it worst. The Russian Muslims however have high population growth.

  162. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Brazil does not have Hispanics.
     
    ???? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics...don't go nuts on us again :)

    The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas.
     
    More like a combination of Guatemala and Saskatchewan, with a touch of Bangalore and Gambia. You can call it Dominican Republic 2.0...But keep on hoping, what else you got?

    Mexican elites are smart
     
    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe, with some of the highest quality people in the world?

    Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages.
     
    The advantage would be the heavy part...they are also very squat keeping them close to the ground. I have no idea what the Pissa-ing contest is that you constantly allude to, but my people can piss with the best of them. You are just envious...

    Let's see: the Hispanic swarthy cholitas vs. our ladies, is that even a contest? But I won't argue with your taste, after all you worship the Habsburgs, so there is something obviously missing...

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

    …Brazil does not have Hispanics.

    ???? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics…don’t go nuts on us again

    They are Latinos, not not Hispanic. The corresponding term for those of Portuguese origin might be Lusitanian.

    Your ignorance shines, as usual.

    The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas.

    More like a combination of Guatemala and Saskatchewan, with a touch of Bangalore and Gambia

    Not enough Central Americans, nor Africans for that. And America gets higher caste Hindus (poor ones go to UK), so nothing like Bangalore.

    Mexican elites are smart

    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe

    They are as smart as Spaniards. But they live among a different people, and have very nice lives amongst them. Their class surroundings are prosperous and safe.

    But America will not be another Mexico either. Mexico doesn’t have an Anglo legal framework, nor is it 35% or so Anglo as America will be. If Mexico had these things, it wouldn’t be Mexico.

    No, future America will be a lot like modern Texas or California.

    It will be a unique entity, Anglo legal framework, Anglo-Euro-Jewish-Asian elite, castizo middle and working class* (perhaps more Mestizo as one gets poorer), and Black underclass. The occasional African or upper class Cuban/Spaniard in Miami for an exotic touch. With the American Great Power inheritance, and abundant natural resources. Not too bad.

    Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages.

    The advantage would be the heavy part

    As I said, they live long lives. Longer than people in Slovakia.

    I have no idea what the Pissa-ing contest is that you constantly allude to,

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-new-2018-pisa-school-test-scores-usa-usa/

    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.

    You are just envious

    You are probably just bitter because you couldn’t stay in the USA and had to go back. Just sour grapes.

    Let’s see: the Hispanic swarthy cholitas vs. our ladies, is that even a contest?

    Not my taste, besides – Ukrainian and Russian girls are even better than Slovak ones. But taste varies.

    *Not like the ones in Chile or elsewhere in South America though. The Americans ones will be people who are 1/2 Anglo, 1/4 Indian, and 1/4 Med. Like this lady:

    [MORE]


    Or this guy:

    Apparently the original Wonder Woman actress from the 70s, Linda Carter, was half Mexican and half Irish.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    They are Latinos, not not Hispanic. The corresponding term for those of Portuguese origin might be Lusitanian.

     

    It's quite interesting that Brazilians can also be considered Hispanic because they also have descent from the Roman province of Hispania, which included Portugal as well as Spain.

    Not enough Central Americans, nor Africans for that. And America gets higher caste Hindus (poor ones go to UK), so nothing like Bangalore.

     

    Well, technically Africa is experiencing a population explosion during the 21st century, but I suspect that the American people are not going to be eager to import a lot of Africans who aren't cognitive elites (including middle-class types).

    Britain's Indians don't do too badly; their students have an average IQ of 97+:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/minorities-cognitive-performance-in-the-uk/

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/pupil-background-cat-scores.jpg

    It's obviously worse than Indians in the US and Canada do (the Canadian ones--the students among them--apparently have an average IQ of around 105, though I'm unsure if they are directly comparable to the British scores since they might be set with 100 as the white Canadian average instead of with 100 as the white British average), but it's still not that bad on a global scale. Comparable to how, say, native Slovaks or Hungarians or Ukrainians or Russians perform, no? Those places aren't shithole countries, especially the first two and the last one.

    They are as smart as Spaniards. But they live among a different people, and have very nice lives amongst them. Their class surroundings are prosperous and safe.

    But America will not be another Mexico either. Mexico doesn’t have an Anglo legal framework, nor is it 35% or so Anglo as America will be. If Mexico had these things, it wouldn’t be Mexico.

    No, future America will be a lot like modern Texas or California.

    It will be a unique entity, Anglo legal framework, Anglo-Euro-Jewish-Asian elite, castizo middle and working class* (perhaps more Mestizo as one gets poorer), and Black underclass. The occasional African or upper class Cuban/Spaniard in Miami for an exotic touch. With the American Great Power inheritance, and abundant natural resources. Not too bad.
     
    Yes, that sounds about right. I think that the question going forward would be whether the US will ever get much more working-class immigration from other parts of the world outside of the Western Hemisphere.
    , @Derer
    @AP


    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.
     
    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP, @AnonfromTN

  163. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Who are these White guys that spend all day ranting about how Disney is doing everything wrong?

    Do they feel entitled to Marvel movies that cater to them?

    I really don't get how grown men can be so attached to comic book movies.

    Was there ever a golden age of comic book movies?

    The 90s Batman movies are corny as hell. I couldn't get through 10 minutes of the one with Jim Carrey. I'm really not getting the whine. Comic book characters aren't real. I really don't get the fascination.

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123, @songbird

    I really don’t get how grown men can be so attached to comic book movies.

    Disparu’s livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat “larger than life”. It is part of the shtick.

    Good comic book and sci-fi movies can deliver stories that other genres cannot. They provide the opportunity for character development.

    • Tony Stark was egotistical POS
    • Peter Parker held his dying Uncle Ben in his arms
    • Bruce Wayne’s parents were gunned down

    All of these flawed humans had story arcs to become much more than they once were. And, a certain generation of boys grew up with these archetypes. Do you have any childhood heroes?

    No one complained when Samuel Jackson was cast as Nick Fury. Pigmentation was irrelevant. He delivered on the character’s background. Perhaps made it even grittier and more engaging.

    The frustration is when the creators choose to be SJW Woke instead of respecting the classic source material. For The Marvels they tapped three failed modern era comic books to give the public Carol Danvers, Kamala Khan, and Monica Rambeua.

    Mocking the humiliating failure generates entertaining content. It should also guide the studios towards what customers with money will actually pay for. How is that objectionable?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Disparu’s livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat “larger than life”.

    So he makes money by expressing the rage of other comic book nerds. Yea well I don't see how there is an audience. I don't understand whining over a fictional product. Just don't buy it and move on. I haven't even watched all of the new Star Wars movies. I tried and changed the channel. Oh well. I don't need a podcast to know they are crap. It's just a product like orange soda. So they made one you don't like as it was targeted at other groups. That's capitalism.

    All of these flawed humans had story arcs to become much more than they once were. And, a certain generation of boys grew up with these archetypes. Do you have any childhood heroes?

    Someone I knew that was in the military. That's about it.

    For The Marvels they tapped three failed modern era comic books to give the public Carol Danvers, Kamala Khan, and Monica Rambeua.

    Girls are half the population and they want to appeal to non-White customers. So what? None of it is real and they are trying to make a buck. Would you really care if they made a Black superman? I really don't see the big deal. He isn't real. It's a stupid comic anyways. The idea that he can hide with glasses is ridiculous. It's all childish and silly. Make him Black and give him a watermelon malt liquor drink. So what? There was never any historical integrity. In fact I'd be more interested in hood Superman. That could be a good comedy.

    Mocking the humiliating failure generates entertaining content.

    Yea I don't believe that at all. I've seen enough companies double down on a losing strategy out of spite for the critics. Mega-corps like Disney have enough easy cash to fund the losers. They can afford to lose.

    Just look at the auto companies. They're about to have a market crash because they ignored their customers and over-invested into EVs. Oh f-cking well. I don't own their stocks. WIll they learn? Of course not. In the future they'll jump on another trend without actually gauging their core customers.

    Replies: @A123

  164. @A123
    @songbird

    Flash was a humorous support character used in limited doses. Ezra Miller was known to be difficult, but very funny when he was in the right head space. Creating a stand-alone Flash movie was a mistake. Then, Ezra Miller went off the rails including assault, being arrested, etc. This turned the mistake into a fiasco.

    The Flash lost money, but was not the worst superhero mistake of the year. The Marvels cost $100M more and earned less.

    https://the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Flash-The/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

    Projects completed last year, that have yet to come out, are an on rushing avalanche of failure. Madame Web will be coming out for Valentine's Day.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yBKFHPn2F1k

    Are you excited ?!?!?!

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird

    Most of the Spiderman actors seemed reasonably masculine, even though they played a nerdy character, to a certain extent. (BTW, interesting how all three played gay characters in other things, though Maguire was the only one to do it beforehand.)

    These female superhero movies are interesting because for the most part they can’t seem to be explained by some of the normal explanations for superhero movies:
    1.) Capitalizing on nostalgia
    2.) Merchandizing
    3.) Sequels

    Though I suppose Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman did well.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird


    Most of the Spiderman actors seemed reasonably masculine, even though they played a nerdy character, to a certain extent.
     
    Awkward first kiss scene with Kirsten Dunst. Nerdy but the audience bought it, girls & guys.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBpwrORhKWU

    These female superhero movies are interesting because for the most part they can’t seem to be explained
    ...
    Though I suppose Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman did well.
     
    The first Wonder Woman movie was true to the spirit of the original comics. On the merits the story was merely OK. Gal Gadot was hot and the costume took advantage of that. It was a serviceable summer block buster that did well versus its budget. Wonder Woman 1984 diverged from that idea and failed.

    Captain Marvel was sandwiched between the two biggest movies of the superhero genre Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. It was a wretched movie that got lucky. Literally, a plank of wood would have delivered a better performance that Bree Larsen. Changing Captain Marvel 2 to The Marvels was an open admission that the original movie had nothing to offer a sequel.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

  165. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Who are these White guys that spend all day ranting about how Disney is doing everything wrong?

    Do they feel entitled to Marvel movies that cater to them?

    I really don't get how grown men can be so attached to comic book movies.

    Was there ever a golden age of comic book movies?

    The 90s Batman movies are corny as hell. I couldn't get through 10 minutes of the one with Jim Carrey. I'm really not getting the whine. Comic book characters aren't real. I really don't get the fascination.

    Replies: @QCIC, @A123, @songbird

    US is the global cultural hegemon, in large part:

    The European Union has a trade deficit on audiovisual products with the United States of $8 billion to $9 billion annually, half of which is television shows. Globally, US production accounts for about half of the total audiovisual trade. Worldwide, 85 percent of television exports from one country to another come from the United States

    (YAWYW)

    And comic book movies are one of the leading studio vehicles, so it makes sense they receive a lot of criticism.

    I couldn’t get through 10 minutes of the one with Jim Carrey.

    The Schumacher films were deliberately tonally different than the Burton ones. Not sure Batman directly killed anyone.

    The idea that violent movies lead to real world violence appears to be mistaken – actually the opposite seems to be true or was true, they seem to decrease violence ever so slightly. (Though I don’t think it has ever been tested with home theaters, or how people can now drink in many theaters)

    I can respect the choice to try to make lighter fare, though the movies weren’t my cup of tea. That said, don’t think they were woke as the current ones – probably, the effect of time.

    Personally, I’d like the era of comic book movies to be over, but I don’t think it is going away.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @songbird

    US is the global cultural hegemon, in large part:

    Aware of that I think it is a tragedy that so many people around the world actually pay full price for this crap. In fact it encourages Hollywood to make CGI movies that don't have much of a story because they translate better.

    The Schumacher films were deliberately tonally different than the Burton ones. Not sure Batman directly killed anyone.

    Well they're garbage as seen by the fact that no one watches them. I've never gone to someone's house and seen those movies out. The 60s movie is also garbage.

    There was never a golden age of comic book movies.

    In fact there was never a golden age of movies. Hollywood has producing low quality theater filler since its existence. It exists to make the screen blink and get people to buy popcorn. That continues with all these comic book movies. They could make a gay Hulk and people will go and watch it. A123 will watch it in the theater and then turn on his favorite podcast and nod in agreement about how the gay orgy scene with Captain America was completely unnecessary. A 2 hour discussion on how these Woke movie makers just don't respect the audience that keeps giving them money and attention.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

  166. @songbird
    @A123

    Most of the Spiderman actors seemed reasonably masculine, even though they played a nerdy character, to a certain extent. (BTW, interesting how all three played gay characters in other things, though Maguire was the only one to do it beforehand.)

    These female superhero movies are interesting because for the most part they can't seem to be explained by some of the normal explanations for superhero movies:
    1.) Capitalizing on nostalgia
    2.) Merchandizing
    3.) Sequels

    Though I suppose Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman did well.

    Replies: @A123

    Most of the Spiderman actors seemed reasonably masculine, even though they played a nerdy character, to a certain extent.

    Awkward first kiss scene with Kirsten Dunst. Nerdy but the audience bought it, girls & guys.

    These female superhero movies are interesting because for the most part they can’t seem to be explained

    Though I suppose Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman did well.

    The first Wonder Woman movie was true to the spirit of the original comics. On the merits the story was merely OK. Gal Gadot was hot and the costume took advantage of that. It was a serviceable summer block buster that did well versus its budget. Wonder Woman 1984 diverged from that idea and failed.

    Captain Marvel was sandwiched between the two biggest movies of the superhero genre Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. It was a wretched movie that got lucky. Literally, a plank of wood would have delivered a better performance that Bree Larsen. Changing Captain Marvel 2 to The Marvels was an open admission that the original movie had nothing to offer a sequel.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    The Captain Marvel movie was single-handedly saved by Goose the Cat. They could have made a Flerken-centric sequel but that is too far from their woke ideology. I suppose such a story could veer into tentacle porn. The Hollywood power brokers might be on board with such a new level of perversion.

    Goose, release the Kraken!

    , @songbird
    @A123


    The first Wonder Woman movie was true to the spirit of the original comics.
     
    IMO, it was unnecessarily woke.

    I feel really bad for Indians. The Indian character only seemed there to guilt trip Euros.
  167. @A123
    @John Johnson


    I really don’t get how grown men can be so attached to comic book movies.
     
    Disparu's livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat "larger than life". It is part of the shtick.

    Good comic book and sci-fi movies can deliver stories that other genres cannot. They provide the opportunity for character development.

    • Tony Stark was egotistical POS
    • Peter Parker held his dying Uncle Ben in his arms
    • Bruce Wayne's parents were gunned down

    All of these flawed humans had story arcs to become much more than they once were. And, a certain generation of boys grew up with these archetypes. Do you have any childhood heroes?

    No one complained when Samuel Jackson was cast as Nick Fury. Pigmentation was irrelevant. He delivered on the character's background. Perhaps made it even grittier and more engaging.

    The frustration is when the creators choose to be SJW Woke instead of respecting the classic source material. For The Marvels they tapped three failed modern era comic books to give the public Carol Danvers, Kamala Khan, and Monica Rambeua.

    Mocking the humiliating failure generates entertaining content. It should also guide the studios towards what customers with money will actually pay for. How is that objectionable?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Disparu’s livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat “larger than life”.

    So he makes money by expressing the rage of other comic book nerds. Yea well I don’t see how there is an audience. I don’t understand whining over a fictional product. Just don’t buy it and move on. I haven’t even watched all of the new Star Wars movies. I tried and changed the channel. Oh well. I don’t need a podcast to know they are crap. It’s just a product like orange soda. So they made one you don’t like as it was targeted at other groups. That’s capitalism.

    All of these flawed humans had story arcs to become much more than they once were. And, a certain generation of boys grew up with these archetypes. Do you have any childhood heroes?

    Someone I knew that was in the military. That’s about it.

    For The Marvels they tapped three failed modern era comic books to give the public Carol Danvers, Kamala Khan, and Monica Rambeua.

    Girls are half the population and they want to appeal to non-White customers. So what? None of it is real and they are trying to make a buck. Would you really care if they made a Black superman? I really don’t see the big deal. He isn’t real. It’s a stupid comic anyways. The idea that he can hide with glasses is ridiculous. It’s all childish and silly. Make him Black and give him a watermelon malt liquor drink. So what? There was never any historical integrity. In fact I’d be more interested in hood Superman. That could be a good comedy.

    Mocking the humiliating failure generates entertaining content.

    Yea I don’t believe that at all. I’ve seen enough companies double down on a losing strategy out of spite for the critics. Mega-corps like Disney have enough easy cash to fund the losers. They can afford to lose.

    Just look at the auto companies. They’re about to have a market crash because they ignored their customers and over-invested into EVs. Oh f-cking well. I don’t own their stocks. WIll they learn? Of course not. In the future they’ll jump on another trend without actually gauging their core customers.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson



    Disparu’s livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat “larger than life”.
     
    So he makes money by expressing the rage of other comic book nerds. Yea well I don’t see how there is an audience
     
    YouTube provides view counts. Disparu's most popular video scored 1.8 Million views. Many others approach 1 Million.

    The Critical Drinker's https://m.youtube.com/@TheCriticalDrinker/videos most popular video is over 8 Million. Many exceed 3 Million views.

    You do not have to view it yourself. However, objective counts show that mass audience exists.


    Girls are half the population and they want to appeal to non-White customers. So what?
     
    Girls do not go to super hero movies even if they are about heroines. Non-white male youths do not care about the race of the protagonist. Wakanda 2 flopped. The audience that grew up with high quality comic books is overwhelmingly heterosexual, male, and white.

    Which of these characters is more appealing to the target audience?

     
    https://media.lelombrik.net/t/3e163d82fa428d5a1e38559ee0c99d15/f/3e163d82fa428d5a1e38559ee0c99d15.png
     

    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Derer

  168. @A123
    @songbird


    Most of the Spiderman actors seemed reasonably masculine, even though they played a nerdy character, to a certain extent.
     
    Awkward first kiss scene with Kirsten Dunst. Nerdy but the audience bought it, girls & guys.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBpwrORhKWU

    These female superhero movies are interesting because for the most part they can’t seem to be explained
    ...
    Though I suppose Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman did well.
     
    The first Wonder Woman movie was true to the spirit of the original comics. On the merits the story was merely OK. Gal Gadot was hot and the costume took advantage of that. It was a serviceable summer block buster that did well versus its budget. Wonder Woman 1984 diverged from that idea and failed.

    Captain Marvel was sandwiched between the two biggest movies of the superhero genre Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. It was a wretched movie that got lucky. Literally, a plank of wood would have delivered a better performance that Bree Larsen. Changing Captain Marvel 2 to The Marvels was an open admission that the original movie had nothing to offer a sequel.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    The Captain Marvel movie was single-handedly saved by Goose the Cat. They could have made a Flerken-centric sequel but that is too far from their woke ideology. I suppose such a story could veer into tentacle porn. The Hollywood power brokers might be on board with such a new level of perversion.

    Goose, release the Kraken!

    • LOL: A123
  169. @A123
    @songbird


    Most of the Spiderman actors seemed reasonably masculine, even though they played a nerdy character, to a certain extent.
     
    Awkward first kiss scene with Kirsten Dunst. Nerdy but the audience bought it, girls & guys.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBpwrORhKWU

    These female superhero movies are interesting because for the most part they can’t seem to be explained
    ...
    Though I suppose Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman did well.
     
    The first Wonder Woman movie was true to the spirit of the original comics. On the merits the story was merely OK. Gal Gadot was hot and the costume took advantage of that. It was a serviceable summer block buster that did well versus its budget. Wonder Woman 1984 diverged from that idea and failed.

    Captain Marvel was sandwiched between the two biggest movies of the superhero genre Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. It was a wretched movie that got lucky. Literally, a plank of wood would have delivered a better performance that Bree Larsen. Changing Captain Marvel 2 to The Marvels was an open admission that the original movie had nothing to offer a sequel.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    The first Wonder Woman movie was true to the spirit of the original comics.

    IMO, it was unnecessarily woke.

    I feel really bad for Indians. The Indian character only seemed there to guilt trip Euros.

  170. @AP
    @Beckow


    …Brazil does not have Hispanics.

    ???? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics…don’t go nuts on us again
     
    They are Latinos, not not Hispanic. The corresponding term for those of Portuguese origin might be Lusitanian.

    Your ignorance shines, as usual.


    The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas.

    More like a combination of Guatemala and Saskatchewan, with a touch of Bangalore and Gambia
     

    Not enough Central Americans, nor Africans for that. And America gets higher caste Hindus (poor ones go to UK), so nothing like Bangalore.

    Mexican elites are smart

    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe
     

    They are as smart as Spaniards. But they live among a different people, and have very nice lives amongst them. Their class surroundings are prosperous and safe.

    But America will not be another Mexico either. Mexico doesn't have an Anglo legal framework, nor is it 35% or so Anglo as America will be. If Mexico had these things, it wouldn't be Mexico.

    No, future America will be a lot like modern Texas or California.

    It will be a unique entity, Anglo legal framework, Anglo-Euro-Jewish-Asian elite, castizo middle and working class* (perhaps more Mestizo as one gets poorer), and Black underclass. The occasional African or upper class Cuban/Spaniard in Miami for an exotic touch. With the American Great Power inheritance, and abundant natural resources. Not too bad.


    Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages.

    The advantage would be the heavy part
     

    As I said, they live long lives. Longer than people in Slovakia.

    I have no idea what the Pissa-ing contest is that you constantly allude to,
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-new-2018-pisa-school-test-scores-usa-usa/

    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.


    You are just envious
     
    You are probably just bitter because you couldn't stay in the USA and had to go back. Just sour grapes.

    Let’s see: the Hispanic swarthy cholitas vs. our ladies, is that even a contest?
     
    Not my taste, besides - Ukrainian and Russian girls are even better than Slovak ones. But taste varies.

    *Not like the ones in Chile or elsewhere in South America though. The Americans ones will be people who are 1/2 Anglo, 1/4 Indian, and 1/4 Med. Like this lady:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/c6/be/1bc6be58c51cc6cf4a384655455e3115.jpg

    Or this guy:

    https://www.cityoflawrence.org/sites/default/files/voices/DanielG.jpg

    Apparently the original Wonder Woman actress from the 70s, Linda Carter, was half Mexican and half Irish.

    https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/lynda-carter-young-small.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    They are Latinos, not not Hispanic. The corresponding term for those of Portuguese origin might be Lusitanian.

    It’s quite interesting that Brazilians can also be considered Hispanic because they also have descent from the Roman province of Hispania, which included Portugal as well as Spain.

    Not enough Central Americans, nor Africans for that. And America gets higher caste Hindus (poor ones go to UK), so nothing like Bangalore.

    Well, technically Africa is experiencing a population explosion during the 21st century, but I suspect that the American people are not going to be eager to import a lot of Africans who aren’t cognitive elites (including middle-class types).

    Britain’s Indians don’t do too badly; their students have an average IQ of 97+:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/minorities-cognitive-performance-in-the-uk/

    It’s obviously worse than Indians in the US and Canada do (the Canadian ones–the students among them–apparently have an average IQ of around 105, though I’m unsure if they are directly comparable to the British scores since they might be set with 100 as the white Canadian average instead of with 100 as the white British average), but it’s still not that bad on a global scale. Comparable to how, say, native Slovaks or Hungarians or Ukrainians or Russians perform, no? Those places aren’t shithole countries, especially the first two and the last one.

    They are as smart as Spaniards. But they live among a different people, and have very nice lives amongst them. Their class surroundings are prosperous and safe.

    But America will not be another Mexico either. Mexico doesn’t have an Anglo legal framework, nor is it 35% or so Anglo as America will be. If Mexico had these things, it wouldn’t be Mexico.

    No, future America will be a lot like modern Texas or California.

    It will be a unique entity, Anglo legal framework, Anglo-Euro-Jewish-Asian elite, castizo middle and working class* (perhaps more Mestizo as one gets poorer), and Black underclass. The occasional African or upper class Cuban/Spaniard in Miami for an exotic touch. With the American Great Power inheritance, and abundant natural resources. Not too bad.

    Yes, that sounds about right. I think that the question going forward would be whether the US will ever get much more working-class immigration from other parts of the world outside of the Western Hemisphere.

  171. @AP
    @Derer

    The problem was his overthrowing the parliament and taking over the courts, then rigging the system in order to hold onto power as his popularity sank. Had Yanukovich not done these things he would never have been overthrown.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Yanukovych and his political allies made a huge political blunder in not holding new parliamentary elections back in 2010. I know that money was a factor, but still, it would have significantly added to their legitimacy had they won them. It was also a huge failure on the part of Ukraine’s courts to actually allow this not to occur and instead for Yanukovych to illegally acquire a parliamentary majority through unconstitutional party flipping. Had pro-Russian forces won the 2010 Ukrainian elections, Ukraine might be in the Eurasian Economic Union right now and for the indefinite future. Would pro-Western forces have actually been willing to pull Ukraine out of it had they subsequently won elections in Ukraine? Especially without a referendum? Demographics were trending against Eurasia in Ukraine, very true, but status quo bias can be a powerful factor.

    FWIW, I suspect that Sergei Tihipko’s party might have ended up as the kingmaker had new Ukrainian parliamentary elections been held back in 2010. Would he and his party have supported Eurasia at the expense of Europe? What about if his party would have subsequently merged into the Party of Regions? Would they have then been compelled to support Eurasia or would they subsequently withdraw from the Party of Regions and support Europe instead?

  172. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Disparu’s livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat “larger than life”.

    So he makes money by expressing the rage of other comic book nerds. Yea well I don't see how there is an audience. I don't understand whining over a fictional product. Just don't buy it and move on. I haven't even watched all of the new Star Wars movies. I tried and changed the channel. Oh well. I don't need a podcast to know they are crap. It's just a product like orange soda. So they made one you don't like as it was targeted at other groups. That's capitalism.

    All of these flawed humans had story arcs to become much more than they once were. And, a certain generation of boys grew up with these archetypes. Do you have any childhood heroes?

    Someone I knew that was in the military. That's about it.

    For The Marvels they tapped three failed modern era comic books to give the public Carol Danvers, Kamala Khan, and Monica Rambeua.

    Girls are half the population and they want to appeal to non-White customers. So what? None of it is real and they are trying to make a buck. Would you really care if they made a Black superman? I really don't see the big deal. He isn't real. It's a stupid comic anyways. The idea that he can hide with glasses is ridiculous. It's all childish and silly. Make him Black and give him a watermelon malt liquor drink. So what? There was never any historical integrity. In fact I'd be more interested in hood Superman. That could be a good comedy.

    Mocking the humiliating failure generates entertaining content.

    Yea I don't believe that at all. I've seen enough companies double down on a losing strategy out of spite for the critics. Mega-corps like Disney have enough easy cash to fund the losers. They can afford to lose.

    Just look at the auto companies. They're about to have a market crash because they ignored their customers and over-invested into EVs. Oh f-cking well. I don't own their stocks. WIll they learn? Of course not. In the future they'll jump on another trend without actually gauging their core customers.

    Replies: @A123

    Disparu’s livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat “larger than life”.

    So he makes money by expressing the rage of other comic book nerds. Yea well I don’t see how there is an audience

    YouTube provides view counts. Disparu’s most popular video scored 1.8 Million views. Many others approach 1 Million.

    The Critical Drinker’s https://www.youtube.com/@TheCriticalDrinker/videos most popular video is over 8 Million. Many exceed 3 Million views.

    You do not have to view it yourself. However, objective counts show that mass audience exists.

    Girls are half the population and they want to appeal to non-White customers. So what?

    Girls do not go to super hero movies even if they are about heroines. Non-white male youths do not care about the race of the protagonist. Wakanda 2 flopped. The audience that grew up with high quality comic books is overwhelmingly heterosexual, male, and white.

    Which of these characters is more appealing to the target audience?

      

    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    YouTube provides view counts. Disparu’s most popular video scored 1.8 Million views. Many others approach 1 Million.

    So one person makes money and 1 million people tune into express their frustrations over a completely fictional world. About one notch above furry culture.

    I don't understand grown men that are into comic book characters. The US is a mess and we have a huge chunk of White men going to watch movies where fictional characters solve fictional problems. They pay full price and then complain about the movies. It's pathetic. Let me show you my disgust by handing you my money because I am a comic nerd that can't wait for Red Box. Can't wait 4 months to watch it on a 60" HDTV at home.

    Girls do not go to super hero movies even if they are about heroines. Non-white male youths do not care about the race of the protagonist. Wakanda 2 flopped.

    I really doubt Black youff would not care if a hero is Black or White. I'm sure they would prefer Black and White kids would prefer White.

    I'm not saying Disney made a wise business decision. I can simply see them trying to broaden their audience based on demographics. Yes I'm sure the movie is crap but there are millions of Hispanics and I can see trying to make a movie with a Hispanic character. It's not a big deal. Do you get upset when McDonalds does a commercial that appeals to Hispanics?

    Disney has been making crap for years. Does this really bother you? It's just entertainment. We have a bazillion options with the internet. I really don't get it.

    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?

    I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I see two women in costumes and I really don't care.

    I don't understand your connection to this fictional world. Both of those women don't actually have super powers. They would rather talk about Taylor Swift than comic books. You are idealizing characters that don't even like your world.

    Replies: @A123

    , @Derer
    @A123

    I like that Jewish girl in black (from Lost in Translation)

  173. @AP
    @Beckow


    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil
     
    Brazil does not have Hispanics. It has an almost completely different demographic profile, in most ways (very different elites, very different under underclass), than will the future USA. It’s a stupid comparison. The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas. Neither one of those is like Brazil.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you

     

    Mexican elites are smart; they may be less disciplined than American Anglo, Jewish and Asian elites but are they less disciplined than Spaniards? I suspect not. As for health - life expectancy for Hispanic Americans is higher than for Slovakia. Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages. Hispanic Americans also score better on PISA than your people do. They are probably smarter than you, too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

    Brazil does not have Hispanics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania

    Now, you were saying? 😉

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

    The term Hispanic (Spanish: hispano) refers to people, cultures, or countries related to Spain, the Spanish language, or Hispanidad broadly

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanidad

    [Spain and former Spanish colonies, including Philippines]

    https://www.dictionary.com/e/hispanic-vs-latino/

    Hispanic is an adjective that generally means “relating to Spanish-speaking Latin America” or to “people of Spanish-speaking descent.

    Latino is an adjective and a noun that describes a person “of Latin American origin or descent,” especially one who lives in the United States. The form Latina refers to a Latin American woman.

    The reason for the inclusion of Latino? Hispanic proved too narrow a term because it excluded people descended from South America’s largest country, Brazil. Portuguese, the primary language of Brazil, may not be Spanish, but it is also a Romance language—that is, it evolved from Latin, hence the term Latin America

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    , @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    This is a tricky point to argue. Portuguese and Spanish influences on South American culture are similar, despite the different languages. I think the mutual intelligibility of these Iberian languages is on the same order as for Ukrainian and Russian. There are enclaves of Portuguese speakers in the Northeastern USA, with ancestors from Portugal or Cape Verde.

    Mixed-race Brazilian people often have a greater admixture of African ancestry than people in other South American countries and look recognizably different. It may be the indigenous people of Brazil have a distinctive phenotypic look as well.

    Brazil is more industrialized than other "hispanic countries" and the people may have more opportunity at home.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  174. @songbird
    @John Johnson

    US is the global cultural hegemon, in large part:


    The European Union has a trade deficit on audiovisual products with the United States of $8 billion to $9 billion annually, half of which is television shows. Globally, US production accounts for about half of the total audiovisual trade. Worldwide, 85 percent of television exports from one country to another come from the United States
     
    (YAWYW)

    And comic book movies are one of the leading studio vehicles, so it makes sense they receive a lot of criticism.

    I couldn’t get through 10 minutes of the one with Jim Carrey.
     
    The Schumacher films were deliberately tonally different than the Burton ones. Not sure Batman directly killed anyone.

    The idea that violent movies lead to real world violence appears to be mistaken - actually the opposite seems to be true or was true, they seem to decrease violence ever so slightly. (Though I don't think it has ever been tested with home theaters, or how people can now drink in many theaters)

    I can respect the choice to try to make lighter fare, though the movies weren't my cup of tea. That said, don't think they were woke as the current ones - probably, the effect of time.

    Personally, I'd like the era of comic book movies to be over, but I don't think it is going away.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    US is the global cultural hegemon, in large part:

    Aware of that I think it is a tragedy that so many people around the world actually pay full price for this crap. In fact it encourages Hollywood to make CGI movies that don’t have much of a story because they translate better.

    The Schumacher films were deliberately tonally different than the Burton ones. Not sure Batman directly killed anyone.

    Well they’re garbage as seen by the fact that no one watches them. I’ve never gone to someone’s house and seen those movies out. The 60s movie is also garbage.

    There was never a golden age of comic book movies.

    In fact there was never a golden age of movies. Hollywood has producing low quality theater filler since its existence. It exists to make the screen blink and get people to buy popcorn. That continues with all these comic book movies. They could make a gay Hulk and people will go and watch it. A123 will watch it in the theater and then turn on his favorite podcast and nod in agreement about how the gay orgy scene with Captain America was completely unnecessary. A 2 hour discussion on how these Woke movie makers just don’t respect the audience that keeps giving them money and attention.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @John Johnson

    Suppose the situation of US cultural dominance might be even bleaker that those figures suggest, as they probably don't count US influence on foreign productions.


    They could make a gay Hulk and people will go and watch it. A123 will watch it in the theater and then turn on his favorite podcast and nod in agreement about how the gay orgy scene with Captain America was completely unnecessary.
     
    some of these center-right critics on YouTube can get a little tedious or even seem woke at times, but on the balance I suspect they may be a positive.

    If they didn't exist, their vacuum wouldn't necessarily cause people to invest their time more wisely, or create higher art.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    I think that there were a few good comic book movies early on, out about 25 years ago. The first few Spiderman and Thor flicks were good with very little if any of the woke stuff that has destroyed the genre today. Even a few of the early X-men ones weren't too bad. These were all heroes that were created and enjoyed during the silver age (1960 -1980). Things have gone terribly wrongly for the Marvel/Disney franchise since then, although I did enjoy the first Dr. Strange movie. I really enjoyed reading these silver age comics as a kid, and therefore tend to give these flix a look, although to be honest, the last one thaat I paid money to watch was the Dr. Strange one, must have been at least 10 years ago, I don;t go out of my to look for any of them on my 4K TV,

  175. @A123
    @John Johnson



    Disparu’s livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat “larger than life”.
     
    So he makes money by expressing the rage of other comic book nerds. Yea well I don’t see how there is an audience
     
    YouTube provides view counts. Disparu's most popular video scored 1.8 Million views. Many others approach 1 Million.

    The Critical Drinker's https://m.youtube.com/@TheCriticalDrinker/videos most popular video is over 8 Million. Many exceed 3 Million views.

    You do not have to view it yourself. However, objective counts show that mass audience exists.


    Girls are half the population and they want to appeal to non-White customers. So what?
     
    Girls do not go to super hero movies even if they are about heroines. Non-white male youths do not care about the race of the protagonist. Wakanda 2 flopped. The audience that grew up with high quality comic books is overwhelmingly heterosexual, male, and white.

    Which of these characters is more appealing to the target audience?

     
    https://media.lelombrik.net/t/3e163d82fa428d5a1e38559ee0c99d15/f/3e163d82fa428d5a1e38559ee0c99d15.png
     

    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Derer

    YouTube provides view counts. Disparu’s most popular video scored 1.8 Million views. Many others approach 1 Million.

    So one person makes money and 1 million people tune into express their frustrations over a completely fictional world. About one notch above furry culture.

    I don’t understand grown men that are into comic book characters. The US is a mess and we have a huge chunk of White men going to watch movies where fictional characters solve fictional problems. They pay full price and then complain about the movies. It’s pathetic. Let me show you my disgust by handing you my money because I am a comic nerd that can’t wait for Red Box. Can’t wait 4 months to watch it on a 60″ HDTV at home.

    Girls do not go to super hero movies even if they are about heroines. Non-white male youths do not care about the race of the protagonist. Wakanda 2 flopped.

    I really doubt Black youff would not care if a hero is Black or White. I’m sure they would prefer Black and White kids would prefer White.

    I’m not saying Disney made a wise business decision. I can simply see them trying to broaden their audience based on demographics. Yes I’m sure the movie is crap but there are millions of Hispanics and I can see trying to make a movie with a Hispanic character. It’s not a big deal. Do you get upset when McDonalds does a commercial that appeals to Hispanics?

    Disney has been making crap for years. Does this really bother you? It’s just entertainment. We have a bazillion options with the internet. I really don’t get it.

    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?

    I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. I see two women in costumes and I really don’t care.

    I don’t understand your connection to this fictional world. Both of those women don’t actually have super powers. They would rather talk about Taylor Swift than comic books. You are idealizing characters that don’t even like your world.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson


    They pay full price and then complain about the movies.
     
    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.

    The Marvels lost hundreds of millions of dollars. Every Marvel production in 2023 failed. The only exception was Guardians of the Galaxy 3, which struggled and barely got over the line to break even.


    I can simply see them trying to broaden their audience based on demographics.
     
    Your woke strategy of making movies with broad cast demographics is a complete failure. The numbers show that SJW "diverse" movies do not attract a paying audience.


    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?
     
    I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. I see two women in costumes and I really don’t care.
     
    Wow. Just Wow... I do not want to OUT you but... Are you homosexual?

    Every heterosexual guy will immediately grasp the difference between the two costumes. And, with high levels of accuracy, I can predict exactly what they wish to grasp.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  176. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Brazil does not have Hispanics.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Conquista_Hispania.svg/1280px-Conquista_Hispania.svg.png

    Now, you were saying? ;)

    Replies: @AP, @QCIC

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

    The term Hispanic (Spanish: hispano) refers to people, cultures, or countries related to Spain, the Spanish language, or Hispanidad broadly

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanidad

    [Spain and former Spanish colonies, including Philippines]

    https://www.dictionary.com/e/hispanic-vs-latino/

    Hispanic is an adjective that generally means “relating to Spanish-speaking Latin America” or to “people of Spanish-speaking descent.

    Latino is an adjective and a noun that describes a person “of Latin American origin or descent,” especially one who lives in the United States. The form Latina refers to a Latin American woman.

    The reason for the inclusion of Latino? Hispanic proved too narrow a term because it excluded people descended from South America’s largest country, Brazil. Portuguese, the primary language of Brazil, may not be Spanish, but it is also a Romance language—that is, it evolved from Latin, hence the term Latin America

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    Some years ago Brazil tried to jump start its troubled space program with a Ukraine collaboration but this fell through.
    https://tass.com/world/788438
    No discussion of Brazil is complete without the following. The Portuguese version is probably better.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdaFQhS86E

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Why aren't Quebeckers considered Latinos, then? They are also peoples in the Americas who speak a Romance language, after all. Ditto for Haitians.

    Replies: @songbird

  177. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Brazil does not have Hispanics.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Conquista_Hispania.svg/1280px-Conquista_Hispania.svg.png

    Now, you were saying? ;)

    Replies: @AP, @QCIC

    This is a tricky point to argue. Portuguese and Spanish influences on South American culture are similar, despite the different languages. I think the mutual intelligibility of these Iberian languages is on the same order as for Ukrainian and Russian. There are enclaves of Portuguese speakers in the Northeastern USA, with ancestors from Portugal or Cape Verde.

    Mixed-race Brazilian people often have a greater admixture of African ancestry than people in other South American countries and look recognizably different. It may be the indigenous people of Brazil have a distinctive phenotypic look as well.

    Brazil is more industrialized than other “hispanic countries” and the people may have more opportunity at home.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC


    Mixed-race Brazilian people often have a greater admixture of African ancestry than people in other South American countries and look recognizably different.
     
    Yes, because Brazil often got more slaves than other Latin American countries did in the past.

    Brazil is more industrialized than other “hispanic countries” and the people may have more opportunity at home.

     

    Why aren't non-white Brazilians moving en masse to nicer, whiter, and richer southern Brazil, though?
  178. @John Johnson
    @A123

    YouTube provides view counts. Disparu’s most popular video scored 1.8 Million views. Many others approach 1 Million.

    So one person makes money and 1 million people tune into express their frustrations over a completely fictional world. About one notch above furry culture.

    I don't understand grown men that are into comic book characters. The US is a mess and we have a huge chunk of White men going to watch movies where fictional characters solve fictional problems. They pay full price and then complain about the movies. It's pathetic. Let me show you my disgust by handing you my money because I am a comic nerd that can't wait for Red Box. Can't wait 4 months to watch it on a 60" HDTV at home.

    Girls do not go to super hero movies even if they are about heroines. Non-white male youths do not care about the race of the protagonist. Wakanda 2 flopped.

    I really doubt Black youff would not care if a hero is Black or White. I'm sure they would prefer Black and White kids would prefer White.

    I'm not saying Disney made a wise business decision. I can simply see them trying to broaden their audience based on demographics. Yes I'm sure the movie is crap but there are millions of Hispanics and I can see trying to make a movie with a Hispanic character. It's not a big deal. Do you get upset when McDonalds does a commercial that appeals to Hispanics?

    Disney has been making crap for years. Does this really bother you? It's just entertainment. We have a bazillion options with the internet. I really don't get it.

    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?

    I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I see two women in costumes and I really don't care.

    I don't understand your connection to this fictional world. Both of those women don't actually have super powers. They would rather talk about Taylor Swift than comic books. You are idealizing characters that don't even like your world.

    Replies: @A123

    They pay full price and then complain about the movies.

    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.

    The Marvels lost hundreds of millions of dollars. Every Marvel production in 2023 failed. The only exception was Guardians of the Galaxy 3, which struggled and barely got over the line to break even.

    I can simply see them trying to broaden their audience based on demographics.

    Your woke strategy of making movies with broad cast demographics is a complete failure. The numbers show that SJW “diverse” movies do not attract a paying audience.

    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?

    I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. I see two women in costumes and I really don’t care.

    Wow. Just Wow… I do not want to OUT you but… Are you homosexual?

    Every heterosexual guy will immediately grasp the difference between the two costumes. And, with high levels of accuracy, I can predict exactly what they wish to grasp.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.

    Not the marvels but about the dozen comic book movies that preceded it. The new Disney movies were garbage and Star Wars nerds still went to them.

    Disney gets the message loud and clear: We will go to 100% of your Star Wars movies and 85% of the comic book movies. So for every dud like marvels we comic book nerds will still watch anything with Avengers and X-men. Just put some guys in tights and have them fight a giant boss CGI monster. Works every time. Oh but we need some White characters to help with the fantasy. Recycled story is just fine. In fact no story is needed at all. Just use a basic video game theme with gay music.

    Your woke strategy of making movies with broad cast demographics is a complete failure.

    LOL my woke strategy? Yea I'm the most woke person because I'm not surprised that Disney tries to make money off non-Whites. I don't care if the product failed or was a success. I can find my own entertainment.

    There is plenty of money to be made from Hispanics and the NFL is a good example of how it can be done. Kathleen Kennedy's cluelessness and patronizing attitude is the problem and not the strategy in principle.

    Every heterosexual guy will immediately grasp the difference between the two costumes. And, with high levels of accuracy, I can predict exactly what they wish to grasp.

    Did you predict that I would roll my eyes and not give a flying fuck?

    I'm married and don't oggle every single picture of a woman. Single guys definitely obsess more over images of women and they seem to not realize how controlled they are by the opposite sex. I'm not consumed by sexuality and if I wanted to watch porn then I would watch porn. In fact I find it strange that men will watch a 2 hour movie just because it has a chick in a tight costume. Why waste time with a lame story and terrible acting? Just turn on porn. I really don't get it. You can probably find costume themed porn. Female action stars are normally terrible actors. It's hard to find a male action star that can act and even harder for the women. I saw a 2 minute preview for marvels and can tell it has terrible acting just like most comic book movies. Maybe most people can't tell anymore because it is so ubiquitous in these movies. Everyone is barely reading a line to each other and they always have one person in the group that completely sucks. So even if there is a good actor he or she will be stomped on with the suck of someone else. Then there is the CGI character that ruins every scene. I don't see how anyone can watch this crap when there are movies like There Will Be Blood and shows like Mr. Inbetween. These comic book movies are like watching someone play a video game but with corny lines.

    Replies: @A123

  179. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

    The term Hispanic (Spanish: hispano) refers to people, cultures, or countries related to Spain, the Spanish language, or Hispanidad broadly

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanidad

    [Spain and former Spanish colonies, including Philippines]

    https://www.dictionary.com/e/hispanic-vs-latino/

    Hispanic is an adjective that generally means “relating to Spanish-speaking Latin America” or to “people of Spanish-speaking descent.

    Latino is an adjective and a noun that describes a person “of Latin American origin or descent,” especially one who lives in the United States. The form Latina refers to a Latin American woman.

    The reason for the inclusion of Latino? Hispanic proved too narrow a term because it excluded people descended from South America’s largest country, Brazil. Portuguese, the primary language of Brazil, may not be Spanish, but it is also a Romance language—that is, it evolved from Latin, hence the term Latin America

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    Some years ago Brazil tried to jump start its troubled space program with a Ukraine collaboration but this fell through.
    https://tass.com/world/788438
    No discussion of Brazil is complete without the following. The Portuguese version is probably better.

  180. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

    The term Hispanic (Spanish: hispano) refers to people, cultures, or countries related to Spain, the Spanish language, or Hispanidad broadly

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanidad

    [Spain and former Spanish colonies, including Philippines]

    https://www.dictionary.com/e/hispanic-vs-latino/

    Hispanic is an adjective that generally means “relating to Spanish-speaking Latin America” or to “people of Spanish-speaking descent.

    Latino is an adjective and a noun that describes a person “of Latin American origin or descent,” especially one who lives in the United States. The form Latina refers to a Latin American woman.

    The reason for the inclusion of Latino? Hispanic proved too narrow a term because it excluded people descended from South America’s largest country, Brazil. Portuguese, the primary language of Brazil, may not be Spanish, but it is also a Romance language—that is, it evolved from Latin, hence the term Latin America

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    Why aren’t Quebeckers considered Latinos, then? They are also peoples in the Americas who speak a Romance language, after all. Ditto for Haitians.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ


    Why aren’t Quebeckers considered Latinos, then?
     
    in a roundabout way, they actually were once lumped together.

    During HG Wells visit to America a prison warden told him that Mexicans and Quebecois were problematic. Suspect he was referring to the Métis.
  181. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Brazil does not have Hispanics.
     
    ???? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics...don't go nuts on us again :)

    The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas.
     
    More like a combination of Guatemala and Saskatchewan, with a touch of Bangalore and Gambia. You can call it Dominican Republic 2.0...But keep on hoping, what else you got?

    Mexican elites are smart
     
    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe, with some of the highest quality people in the world?

    Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages.
     
    The advantage would be the heavy part...they are also very squat keeping them close to the ground. I have no idea what the Pissa-ing contest is that you constantly allude to, but my people can piss with the best of them. You are just envious...

    Let's see: the Hispanic swarthy cholitas vs. our ladies, is that even a contest? But I won't argue with your taste, after all you worship the Habsburgs, so there is something obviously missing...

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe, with some of the highest quality people in the world?

    Well, Indian Brahmins are also pretty smart, especially at their full potential (no malnutrition, iodine deficiency, or parasitic disease load), but they also run a very shitty country, though one that is also developing rapidly.

  182. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    This is a tricky point to argue. Portuguese and Spanish influences on South American culture are similar, despite the different languages. I think the mutual intelligibility of these Iberian languages is on the same order as for Ukrainian and Russian. There are enclaves of Portuguese speakers in the Northeastern USA, with ancestors from Portugal or Cape Verde.

    Mixed-race Brazilian people often have a greater admixture of African ancestry than people in other South American countries and look recognizably different. It may be the indigenous people of Brazil have a distinctive phenotypic look as well.

    Brazil is more industrialized than other "hispanic countries" and the people may have more opportunity at home.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Mixed-race Brazilian people often have a greater admixture of African ancestry than people in other South American countries and look recognizably different.

    Yes, because Brazil often got more slaves than other Latin American countries did in the past.

    Brazil is more industrialized than other “hispanic countries” and the people may have more opportunity at home.

    Why aren’t non-white Brazilians moving en masse to nicer, whiter, and richer southern Brazil, though?

  183. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Why aren't Quebeckers considered Latinos, then? They are also peoples in the Americas who speak a Romance language, after all. Ditto for Haitians.

    Replies: @songbird

    Why aren’t Quebeckers considered Latinos, then?

    in a roundabout way, they actually were once lumped together.

    During HG Wells visit to America a prison warden told him that Mexicans and Quebecois were problematic. Suspect he was referring to the Métis.

  184. I didn’t invent these terms, I’m only describing them.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/05/who-is-hispanic/

    In 1976, the U.S. Congress passed a law that required the government to collect and analyze data for a specific ethnic group: “Americans of Spanish origin or descent.” That legislation defined this group as “Americans who identify themselves as being of Spanish-speaking background and trace their origin or descent from Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Central and South America, and other Spanish-speaking countries.” This includes 20 Spanish-speaking nations from Latin America and Spain itself, but not Portugal or Portuguese-speaking Brazil.

    I think Latinos have to be from Latin America. So neither Québécois nor people from Portugal are Latinos. Haitians might be, but they are also African or Black:

    Some people have drawn sharp distinctions between these two terms. For example, some say that Hispanics are from Spain or from Spanish-speaking countries in Latin America, which matches the federal definition, and Latinos are people from Latin America regardless of language. In this definition, Latinos would include people from Brazil (where Portuguese is the official language) but not Spain or Portugal

    :::::::

    I’m surprised you don’t know this stuff. You aren’t poorly educated like Beckow. You from a very non-diverse area? We have both Hispanics and Brazilians in the Northeast.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    I think Latinos have to be from Latin America. So neither Québécois nor people from Portugal are Latinos. Haitians might be, but they are also African or Black:
     
    I think that my overarching question here is this, though: Why exactly aren't Quebec and Brazil considered a part of Latin America when they're a part of the Americas and speak a Latin language?

    I know the conventional mention of the term Latino, I'm just wondering how exactly it makes sense to exclude the Quebecois and Brazilians here.

    FWIW, I live in an area where there are a lot of Hispanics, mostly Mexicans, nearby (specifically southern California; I live in a mostly white and Asian city but there are a lot of much more Mexican/Hispanic cities nearby which we sometimes visit, primarily during daylight hours, when they're actually very pleasant, even if a bit dumpy sometimes). But I don't encounter many Brazilians or Haitians or Quebecois so it hasn't really been a real-life issue for me in terms of categorizing them. I know how to categorize people from the Spanish-speaking parts of the Americas.
  185. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    US is the global cultural hegemon, in large part:

    Aware of that I think it is a tragedy that so many people around the world actually pay full price for this crap. In fact it encourages Hollywood to make CGI movies that don't have much of a story because they translate better.

    The Schumacher films were deliberately tonally different than the Burton ones. Not sure Batman directly killed anyone.

    Well they're garbage as seen by the fact that no one watches them. I've never gone to someone's house and seen those movies out. The 60s movie is also garbage.

    There was never a golden age of comic book movies.

    In fact there was never a golden age of movies. Hollywood has producing low quality theater filler since its existence. It exists to make the screen blink and get people to buy popcorn. That continues with all these comic book movies. They could make a gay Hulk and people will go and watch it. A123 will watch it in the theater and then turn on his favorite podcast and nod in agreement about how the gay orgy scene with Captain America was completely unnecessary. A 2 hour discussion on how these Woke movie makers just don't respect the audience that keeps giving them money and attention.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

    Suppose the situation of US cultural dominance might be even bleaker that those figures suggest, as they probably don’t count US influence on foreign productions.

    They could make a gay Hulk and people will go and watch it. A123 will watch it in the theater and then turn on his favorite podcast and nod in agreement about how the gay orgy scene with Captain America was completely unnecessary.

    some of these center-right critics on YouTube can get a little tedious or even seem woke at times, but on the balance I suspect they may be a positive.

    If they didn’t exist, their vacuum wouldn’t necessarily cause people to invest their time more wisely, or create higher art.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @songbird

    Suppose the situation of US cultural dominance might be even bleaker that those figures suggest, as they probably don’t count US influence on foreign productions.

    US cultural dominance is indeed bleaker.

    The figures don't include piracy.

    Asian and African countries gobble down this sludge down but in pirated forms.

    The profits are higher than they show because they play games with foreign profits. They come up with creative ways to pay out before taking the profits home where they are taxed. Our doofus conservatives won't go after them and then gruff about Hollywood funding the left.

    some of these center-right critics on YouTube can get a little tedious or even seem woke at times, but on the balance I suspect they may be a positive.

    I just don't get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @songbird

  186. @A123
    @John Johnson


    They pay full price and then complain about the movies.
     
    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.

    The Marvels lost hundreds of millions of dollars. Every Marvel production in 2023 failed. The only exception was Guardians of the Galaxy 3, which struggled and barely got over the line to break even.


    I can simply see them trying to broaden their audience based on demographics.
     
    Your woke strategy of making movies with broad cast demographics is a complete failure. The numbers show that SJW "diverse" movies do not attract a paying audience.


    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?
     
    I don’t know what the hell you are talking about. I see two women in costumes and I really don’t care.
     
    Wow. Just Wow... I do not want to OUT you but... Are you homosexual?

    Every heterosexual guy will immediately grasp the difference between the two costumes. And, with high levels of accuracy, I can predict exactly what they wish to grasp.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.

    Not the marvels but about the dozen comic book movies that preceded it. The new Disney movies were garbage and Star Wars nerds still went to them.

    Disney gets the message loud and clear: We will go to 100% of your Star Wars movies and 85% of the comic book movies. So for every dud like marvels we comic book nerds will still watch anything with Avengers and X-men. Just put some guys in tights and have them fight a giant boss CGI monster. Works every time. Oh but we need some White characters to help with the fantasy. Recycled story is just fine. In fact no story is needed at all. Just use a basic video game theme with gay music.

    Your woke strategy of making movies with broad cast demographics is a complete failure.

    LOL my woke strategy? Yea I’m the most woke person because I’m not surprised that Disney tries to make money off non-Whites. I don’t care if the product failed or was a success. I can find my own entertainment.

    There is plenty of money to be made from Hispanics and the NFL is a good example of how it can be done. Kathleen Kennedy’s cluelessness and patronizing attitude is the problem and not the strategy in principle.

    Every heterosexual guy will immediately grasp the difference between the two costumes. And, with high levels of accuracy, I can predict exactly what they wish to grasp.

    Did you predict that I would roll my eyes and not give a flying fuck?

    I’m married and don’t oggle every single picture of a woman. Single guys definitely obsess more over images of women and they seem to not realize how controlled they are by the opposite sex. I’m not consumed by sexuality and if I wanted to watch porn then I would watch porn. In fact I find it strange that men will watch a 2 hour movie just because it has a chick in a tight costume. Why waste time with a lame story and terrible acting? Just turn on porn. I really don’t get it. You can probably find costume themed porn. Female action stars are normally terrible actors. It’s hard to find a male action star that can act and even harder for the women. I saw a 2 minute preview for marvels and can tell it has terrible acting just like most comic book movies. Maybe most people can’t tell anymore because it is so ubiquitous in these movies. Everyone is barely reading a line to each other and they always have one person in the group that completely sucks. So even if there is a good actor he or she will be stomped on with the suck of someone else. Then there is the CGI character that ruins every scene. I don’t see how anyone can watch this crap when there are movies like There Will Be Blood and shows like Mr. Inbetween. These comic book movies are like watching someone play a video game but with corny lines.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson



    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.
     
    Not the marvels but about the dozen comic book movies that preceded it.
     
    Completely untrue. All of these movies flopped:

    • Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
    • The Flash
    • The Marvels
    • Blue Beetle
    • Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
    • Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

    The racially charged movie intended to broaden scope failed. Being racist did not work. I certainly did not see Wakanda 2. It lost money.

    The girl boss movie The Marvels intended intended to attract women failed. Females do not buy tickets to superhero flicks. Even when it is targeted to them. Baring a miracle Madame Web will soon meet a similar fate.

    The homohero movie, The Eternals, crashed and burned back in IIRC 2021.

    Why do you keep insisting that diversity movies work when it is painfully obvious in the numbers that your strategy is failing?

    Far too few people are going versus the production costs. Even with the occasional film that performs well, SJW woke studios are bleeding money. Why do you keep defending them?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  187. @songbird
    @John Johnson

    Suppose the situation of US cultural dominance might be even bleaker that those figures suggest, as they probably don't count US influence on foreign productions.


    They could make a gay Hulk and people will go and watch it. A123 will watch it in the theater and then turn on his favorite podcast and nod in agreement about how the gay orgy scene with Captain America was completely unnecessary.
     
    some of these center-right critics on YouTube can get a little tedious or even seem woke at times, but on the balance I suspect they may be a positive.

    If they didn't exist, their vacuum wouldn't necessarily cause people to invest their time more wisely, or create higher art.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Suppose the situation of US cultural dominance might be even bleaker that those figures suggest, as they probably don’t count US influence on foreign productions.

    US cultural dominance is indeed bleaker.

    The figures don’t include piracy.

    Asian and African countries gobble down this sludge down but in pirated forms.

    The profits are higher than they show because they play games with foreign profits. They come up with creative ways to pay out before taking the profits home where they are taxed. Our doofus conservatives won’t go after them and then gruff about Hollywood funding the left.

    some of these center-right critics on YouTube can get a little tedious or even seem woke at times, but on the balance I suspect they may be a positive.

    I just don’t get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Mexican characters, whether human or animal, are great. Dora the Explorer and Speedy Gonzales, for instance. White liberals were probably more offended by Speedy than actual Mexicans or Mexican-Americans were.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Dora_the_Explorer_%28character%29.webp

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/3b516cb39a65905afae6b8f895c145d603cc33ee/0_178_1600_960/master/1600.jpg?width=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=252109e6450c534ed3d6cab4ac268e81

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @songbird
    @John Johnson


    I just don’t get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.
     
    Well, DIE is a zero-sum game.

    A lot of these properties are designed to appeal specifically to nostalgia, so, even in Normies, they trigger some noticing about race.

    On the one hand, one can argue that part of it is economics. But clearly mixed with politics, and even the economic part of it is because it is an endorsement of the process of demographic change, as well as a substitution for any ethnically coherent thing, where there could even be any appeal to identity.

    Plus, they often use the diversity as a vehicle to pitch their message that Euros are evil or blacks numinous. In the Zoro films Antonio Banderas LARPed as a Latino and fought some really Germanic-looking villain, with blond hair and blue eyes.

    Seems like the love interests are seldom the same race anymore.

    Meanwhile, you get all this crazy talk about representation where they use categories like Asian/Pacific Islander and say Chinese people who have their own massive industry are underrepresented, but the Rock, who most of the Chinese would presumably see as an alien from outer space, is a positive change in getting more representation for the group, which in the 1800s included stone-age cannibals, as well as people with cities of a million, like Edo, or near a million like Beijing (which was limited by imperial decree.)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @sudden death

  188. @AP
    I didn’t invent these terms, I’m only describing them.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/05/who-is-hispanic/

    In 1976, the U.S. Congress passed a law that required the government to collect and analyze data for a specific ethnic group: “Americans of Spanish origin or descent.” That legislation defined this group as “Americans who identify themselves as being of Spanish-speaking background and trace their origin or descent from Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Central and South America, and other Spanish-speaking countries.” This includes 20 Spanish-speaking nations from Latin America and Spain itself, but not Portugal or Portuguese-speaking Brazil.

    I think Latinos have to be from Latin America. So neither Québécois nor people from Portugal are Latinos. Haitians might be, but they are also African or Black:

    Some people have drawn sharp distinctions between these two terms. For example, some say that Hispanics are from Spain or from Spanish-speaking countries in Latin America, which matches the federal definition, and Latinos are people from Latin America regardless of language. In this definition, Latinos would include people from Brazil (where Portuguese is the official language) but not Spain or Portugal

    :::::::

    I’m surprised you don’t know this stuff. You aren’t poorly educated like Beckow. You from a very non-diverse area? We have both Hispanics and Brazilians in the Northeast.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I think Latinos have to be from Latin America. So neither Québécois nor people from Portugal are Latinos. Haitians might be, but they are also African or Black:

    I think that my overarching question here is this, though: Why exactly aren’t Quebec and Brazil considered a part of Latin America when they’re a part of the Americas and speak a Latin language?

    I know the conventional mention of the term Latino, I’m just wondering how exactly it makes sense to exclude the Quebecois and Brazilians here.

    FWIW, I live in an area where there are a lot of Hispanics, mostly Mexicans, nearby (specifically southern California; I live in a mostly white and Asian city but there are a lot of much more Mexican/Hispanic cities nearby which we sometimes visit, primarily during daylight hours, when they’re actually very pleasant, even if a bit dumpy sometimes). But I don’t encounter many Brazilians or Haitians or Quebecois so it hasn’t really been a real-life issue for me in terms of categorizing them. I know how to categorize people from the Spanish-speaking parts of the Americas.

  189. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    Suppose the situation of US cultural dominance might be even bleaker that those figures suggest, as they probably don’t count US influence on foreign productions.

    US cultural dominance is indeed bleaker.

    The figures don't include piracy.

    Asian and African countries gobble down this sludge down but in pirated forms.

    The profits are higher than they show because they play games with foreign profits. They come up with creative ways to pay out before taking the profits home where they are taxed. Our doofus conservatives won't go after them and then gruff about Hollywood funding the left.

    some of these center-right critics on YouTube can get a little tedious or even seem woke at times, but on the balance I suspect they may be a positive.

    I just don't get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @songbird

    Mexican characters, whether human or animal, are great. Dora the Explorer and Speedy Gonzales, for instance. White liberals were probably more offended by Speedy than actual Mexicans or Mexican-Americans were.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Please tell me that no actual person was offended by Speedy Gonzales!

    I guess the concept of the character was snarky since the stereotype is that Mexicans are slow and lazy. Sort of like naming your pet snail "Turbo".

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

  190. @AP
    @Beckow


    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil
     
    Brazil does not have Hispanics. It has an almost completely different demographic profile, in most ways (very different elites, very different under underclass), than will the future USA. It’s a stupid comparison. The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas. Neither one of those is like Brazil.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you

     

    Mexican elites are smart; they may be less disciplined than American Anglo, Jewish and Asian elites but are they less disciplined than Spaniards? I suspect not. As for health - life expectancy for Hispanic Americans is higher than for Slovakia. Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages. Hispanic Americans also score better on PISA than your people do. They are probably smarter than you, too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

    You seem to love hispanics more than your own slavic cousins (slovaks). Interesting

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488

    I think that he tends to view Slavs and Hispanics rather similarly. Especially if they're both Catholic.

    I wonder what future AP will see for Russia if Russian liberals will ever come to power there. Would they embrace mass immigration like Western liberals have? If so, would it primarily be from the Muslim world or from some other places, such as India, Southeast Asia, and/or Sub-Saharan Africa as well? I have previously flirted with an idea of giving Third Worlders Russian--or Ukrainian, for that matter--immigration rights to Russia--or Ukraine--if they will actually sincerely agree to convert to Russian--or Ukrainian--Orthodoxy.

    Replies: @LT1488, @AP

  191. @LT1488
    @AP

    You seem to love hispanics more than your own slavic cousins (slovaks). Interesting

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I think that he tends to view Slavs and Hispanics rather similarly. Especially if they’re both Catholic.

    I wonder what future AP will see for Russia if Russian liberals will ever come to power there. Would they embrace mass immigration like Western liberals have? If so, would it primarily be from the Muslim world or from some other places, such as India, Southeast Asia, and/or Sub-Saharan Africa as well? I have previously flirted with an idea of giving Third Worlders Russian–or Ukrainian, for that matter–immigration rights to Russia–or Ukraine–if they will actually sincerely agree to convert to Russian–or Ukrainian–Orthodoxy.

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    It depends on the kind of liberal, Sobchak kind or Navalny kind.
    The Navalny kind would probably blindly follow the West, the Sobchak kind would probably blindly follow whatever the now returning emigre oligarchy would want.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    I wonder what future AP will see for Russia if Russian liberals will ever come to power there. Would they embrace mass immigration like Western liberals have
     
    Probably not. Even Navalny once referred to people from the Caucuses as cockroaches.

    The template for liberal Eastern Europeans is Czechia. Libertinism, secularism and democracy, but not mass immigration (this is why people who claim liberalizing Poland will be another Ireland, full of non-Europeans, are just wrong. Liberalizing Poland will be more like Czechia).

    That having been said, unlike Czechia (or Poland), Russia does border several fecund Islamic countries and has a large native Muslim population, so increased Muslim population is inevitable.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  192. @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488

    I think that he tends to view Slavs and Hispanics rather similarly. Especially if they're both Catholic.

    I wonder what future AP will see for Russia if Russian liberals will ever come to power there. Would they embrace mass immigration like Western liberals have? If so, would it primarily be from the Muslim world or from some other places, such as India, Southeast Asia, and/or Sub-Saharan Africa as well? I have previously flirted with an idea of giving Third Worlders Russian--or Ukrainian, for that matter--immigration rights to Russia--or Ukraine--if they will actually sincerely agree to convert to Russian--or Ukrainian--Orthodoxy.

    Replies: @LT1488, @AP

    It depends on the kind of liberal, Sobchak kind or Navalny kind.
    The Navalny kind would probably blindly follow the West, the Sobchak kind would probably blindly follow whatever the now returning emigre oligarchy would want.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488

    I hope that a Navalny-led Russia would welcome a lot of culturally compatible immigrants to make up for Navalny’s xenophobic past, such as him calling Caucasians “cockroaches”.

    Russia won’t be able to ever enter the EU unless it will seriously tackle its oligarch and corruption problems. Especially the latter. Ditto for Ukraine, for that matter.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  193. @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …Not my decision and my kids won’t have to worry about it.
     
    Maybe they will worry about nothing but that…You have moved into escapism and ‘just live with it‘ attitude.

    Escapism? I'm not going anywhere. It's called strategizing.

    Do tell how an individual can change the situation at this point.

    I'm also not a White nationalist and having Hispanic neighbors doesn't bother me. White liberals bother me far more than Hispanics. I've lived with White liberals and I will take Mexicans any day of the week. White liberals are not only soul sucking but their constant reality denial is incredibly tiring. You have to constantly watch what you say less they deem you as a Bad White that interrupts their gender/racial fantasies. It's very burdensome if you are the type that enjoys a variety of viewpoints. They really are like Stepford wives but with hybrids and organic grocery stores.

    The change in demographics is not about the fact that Hispanics and other migrants tend to be culturally conservative – it is about the irreversible change in the culture. Brazil 2.0 will still be Brazil, I have been there, not a place I would recommend in the long run.

    Brazil 2 is not my preference but I will be fine. I can always move to Canada or Ukraine, even Hungary. I have connections all over Europe.

    I live well and so will my children. They won't be at the mercy of the system. I prioritize my family over country.

    The quality of people matters, the genetics: surrounded by shorter, fatter, less healthy, less smart, less mentally disciplined masses is not a good thing. They will eventually absorb you, that’s the way it works. And white libs will die out.

    White libs are certainly dying out. Hardcore liberalism is most likely an unfortunate gene combination that is ultimately dysgenic.

    As for absorption I think you are imagining Sao Paulo more than the current reality. I already pointed out how NYC is mostly non-White and they still generate more research than Eastern Europe. One small corner of NYC has more tech development than all of Russia. Russia's software market is actually smaller than Denmark. Thus this is more complicated than Whites being absorbed by Mestizos.

    I knew this was coming years ago. When I was in the South it was clear that most Whites were unable to handle reality. Texas Republicans looked the other way on the border for years. Most Whites cannot face the reality of race. They want either Christian creationism or liberalism to be true. Take it up with them. The minority that faces reality is shunned by both sides.

    You can hide in your burbs, but the reality is that the last 10 years have been a complete screw-up.

    You seem to keep assuming I support all US policy because I support Ukraine. I really don't have your tribal brain. I view the US as compromised by reality denial but still better than a second rate Slavic empire headed by a mass murdering dwarf.

    Anti-native immigration policy was actually exacerbated by Reagan even though he is a conservative hero. The real damage to this country however was done with the 1965 immigration act and all the Democrat policies that passed with the assumption that racial inequality is merely the White man being evil and holding everyone else back. Some of those policies were signed into law by Nixon who believed in lying about race. I have both Republicans and liberals in my history that fully admit the public needs to be told lies regarding race. Thus we have two sides that believe in lying. The resulting Brazil 2.0 will be unfortunate for the world as US innovation and research will decline but I will not only live well but better than average Whites in all White countries.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    a second rate Slavic empire headed by a mass murdering dwarf.

    For the F sake why are you poison your posts with your brainless hate.

    -A country cannot be second rate by providing space ship for “hegemon’s” space operation.

    -Putin cannot and will not allow enemy military bases in Ukraine – announced red line.

    -Washington will not allow enemy military bases in Mexico or Central America.

    -Washington killed 3.5 mil civilian on foreign soils since the WWII and you are talking about defending a nuclear superpower red line “murdering dwarf” – murdering dwarf is in Kiev.

    -After 75 years of Bolshevik yoke, Russia’s path of improving their standard of living is constantly facing obstacles deliberately created by the “Empire of sanctions” as evidenced by the 90’s looting or present sanctions and outright assets theft – actions paving confrontational future for decades.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer


    -Washington will not allow enemy military bases in Mexico or Central America.

     

    It de facto allowed them in Cuba for a couple of decades post-Cuban Missile Crisis.

    In any case, I guess that Austria-Hungary couldn't tolerate the risk of Russian military bases in Serbia in 1914 either, right? Or that Nazi Germany couldn't tolerate the risk of French or Soviet military bases in Czechoslovakia in 1938? Or that Nazi Germany couldn't tolerate the risk of French or British military bases in Poland in 1939?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    , @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Putin cannot and will not allow enemy military bases in Ukraine – announced red line.

    Oh ok why don't you tell us about this planned military base even though Ukraine didn't qualify for NATO and wasn't in the process of applying.

    Or be Putin defender #8231 that avoids trying to backup a statement with data after finding out he was working with bits and pieces from pro-Putin media that were never vetted.

    Washington killed 3.5 mil civilian on foreign soils since the WWII and you are talking about defending a nuclear superpower red line “murdering dwarf” – murdering dwarf is in Kiev.

    Putin is a mass murdering dwarf and a coward. He kills about 1 or 2 journalists a month because he is an intellectual coward that is afraid of having to explain himself. A midget both in height and ability.

    After 75 years of Bolshevik yoke, Russia’s path of improving their standard of living is constantly facing obstacles deliberately created by the “Empire of sanctions” as evidenced by the 90’s looting or present sanctions and outright assets theft – actions paving confrontational future for decades.

    And yet the ex-Bolshevik tiny Baltics with limited resources have a higher standard of living. They somehow managed that without having a mass murdering dwarf dictator. Kind of like Taiwan and China. Looks like your totalitarian state was never needed to improve the lives of the people.

    Mighty Russia can't offer their workers the standard of living of Estonia.

    Oh and USSR style food lines are back.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/egg-crisis-cracks-russia-putin-failing-to-fulfill-promises-in-wake-of-ukraine-war-fallout/ar-BB1h1vwf

    World is so impressed with the dwarf. A needless war and taking the economy back to 1988.

  194. @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    It depends on the kind of liberal, Sobchak kind or Navalny kind.
    The Navalny kind would probably blindly follow the West, the Sobchak kind would probably blindly follow whatever the now returning emigre oligarchy would want.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I hope that a Navalny-led Russia would welcome a lot of culturally compatible immigrants to make up for Navalny’s xenophobic past, such as him calling Caucasians “cockroaches”.

    Russia won’t be able to ever enter the EU unless it will seriously tackle its oligarch and corruption problems. Especially the latter. Ditto for Ukraine, for that matter.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    I honestly think Syrian immigrants would improve Russia.

    Rural Russians are some of the worst dregs I have seen in street interviews.

    Half of them appear drunk in the middle of the day.

    Rural Russian POWs seem suicidal. Few can explain the war but they seem indifferent to death. They have a strange combination of national arrogance and nihilistic fatalism.

    I'm no fan of Islam but I really do believe that Syrians would benefit Russia.

    Russians would at least have something new to complain about.

    Russia is the perfect place for Syrian immigrants. A post-Putin Russia could bring in Europe's Syrians as part of a grand deal.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488, @LT1488

  195. @Derer
    @John Johnson


    a second rate Slavic empire headed by a mass murdering dwarf.
     
    For the F sake why are you poison your posts with your brainless hate.

    -A country cannot be second rate by providing space ship for "hegemon's" space operation.

    -Putin cannot and will not allow enemy military bases in Ukraine - announced red line.

    -Washington will not allow enemy military bases in Mexico or Central America.

    -Washington killed 3.5 mil civilian on foreign soils since the WWII and you are talking about defending a nuclear superpower red line "murdering dwarf" - murdering dwarf is in Kiev.

    -After 75 years of Bolshevik yoke, Russia's path of improving their standard of living is constantly facing obstacles deliberately created by the "Empire of sanctions" as evidenced by the 90's looting or present sanctions and outright assets theft - actions paving confrontational future for decades.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    -Washington will not allow enemy military bases in Mexico or Central America.

    It de facto allowed them in Cuba for a couple of decades post-Cuban Missile Crisis.

    In any case, I guess that Austria-Hungary couldn’t tolerate the risk of Russian military bases in Serbia in 1914 either, right? Or that Nazi Germany couldn’t tolerate the risk of French or Soviet military bases in Czechoslovakia in 1938? Or that Nazi Germany couldn’t tolerate the risk of French or British military bases in Poland in 1939?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    For that matter, China couldn't tolerate US bases in North Korea in the 1950s and US bases in North Vietnam in the 1960s, which is why it militarily intervened in the Korean War in order to save the North Korean government and regime and was prepared to do the exact same thing in North Vietnam had the US ever actually invaded it during the Vietnam War.

    , @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    Do you have reading difficulty? I said Mexico and Central America and you extrapolate that to Austria-Hungary. You are comparing apples and oranges. One cannot compare present military warfare of nuclear superpowers to old armies of Vietnam or Korea - childish.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  196. @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer


    -Washington will not allow enemy military bases in Mexico or Central America.

     

    It de facto allowed them in Cuba for a couple of decades post-Cuban Missile Crisis.

    In any case, I guess that Austria-Hungary couldn't tolerate the risk of Russian military bases in Serbia in 1914 either, right? Or that Nazi Germany couldn't tolerate the risk of French or Soviet military bases in Czechoslovakia in 1938? Or that Nazi Germany couldn't tolerate the risk of French or British military bases in Poland in 1939?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    For that matter, China couldn’t tolerate US bases in North Korea in the 1950s and US bases in North Vietnam in the 1960s, which is why it militarily intervened in the Korean War in order to save the North Korean government and regime and was prepared to do the exact same thing in North Vietnam had the US ever actually invaded it during the Vietnam War.

  197. @AP
    @Beckow


    …Brazil does not have Hispanics.

    ???? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics…don’t go nuts on us again
     
    They are Latinos, not not Hispanic. The corresponding term for those of Portuguese origin might be Lusitanian.

    Your ignorance shines, as usual.


    The future of the USA will be some combination of contemporary California and Texas.

    More like a combination of Guatemala and Saskatchewan, with a touch of Bangalore and Gambia
     

    Not enough Central Americans, nor Africans for that. And America gets higher caste Hindus (poor ones go to UK), so nothing like Bangalore.

    Mexican elites are smart

    They are absolutely brilliant. How else could they have a country that prosperous, advanced and safe
     

    They are as smart as Spaniards. But they live among a different people, and have very nice lives amongst them. Their class surroundings are prosperous and safe.

    But America will not be another Mexico either. Mexico doesn't have an Anglo legal framework, nor is it 35% or so Anglo as America will be. If Mexico had these things, it wouldn't be Mexico.

    No, future America will be a lot like modern Texas or California.

    It will be a unique entity, Anglo legal framework, Anglo-Euro-Jewish-Asian elite, castizo middle and working class* (perhaps more Mestizo as one gets poorer), and Black underclass. The occasional African or upper class Cuban/Spaniard in Miami for an exotic touch. With the American Great Power inheritance, and abundant natural resources. Not too bad.


    Despite Hispanics being heavier. The combination of Asian and Mediterranean genes has some advantages.

    The advantage would be the heavy part
     

    As I said, they live long lives. Longer than people in Slovakia.

    I have no idea what the Pissa-ing contest is that you constantly allude to,
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-new-2018-pisa-school-test-scores-usa-usa/

    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.


    You are just envious
     
    You are probably just bitter because you couldn't stay in the USA and had to go back. Just sour grapes.

    Let’s see: the Hispanic swarthy cholitas vs. our ladies, is that even a contest?
     
    Not my taste, besides - Ukrainian and Russian girls are even better than Slovak ones. But taste varies.

    *Not like the ones in Chile or elsewhere in South America though. The Americans ones will be people who are 1/2 Anglo, 1/4 Indian, and 1/4 Med. Like this lady:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/c6/be/1bc6be58c51cc6cf4a384655455e3115.jpg

    Or this guy:

    https://www.cityoflawrence.org/sites/default/files/voices/DanielG.jpg

    Apparently the original Wonder Woman actress from the 70s, Linda Carter, was half Mexican and half Irish.

    https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/lynda-carter-young-small.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.

    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    Texas is majority Hispanic. Well officially even though it was probably that way 10 years ago.

    The difference is that Texas is not managed by liberals.

    LA is not a White vs Mexican conflict. It's more wealthy liberals vs everyone else. LA has problems beyond belief. It isn't what it appears. It's much darker than what even alt-right imagines.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    , @AP
    @Derer

    Derer is too dumb to be able to read.

    I said that American Hispanics beat Slovaks in life expectancy and child educational achievement. I didn’t say they were cleaner, or thinner.

    LA became a lot safer with the Mexican influx. The filth seems to be driven by junkies and homeless though - policies of white liberals.

    And Texas is full of Mexicans. If Californians wee fleeing the Mexicans they would be going somewhere other than Texas. Looks like basic reasoning is as difficult for you as is reading.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Derer


    People are leaving, mostly to Texas.
     
    People are leaving several blue states that libtards made unlivable, including CA and NY. Most are heading to the red states that are still livable. There was a suggestion in TN to suspend the voting rights of refugees from blue states for at least five years: they turned their states into shitholes by their libtard voting, they should not be allowed to turn TN into a shithole. From my POW, makes perfect sense.
  198. @Derer
    @John Johnson


    a second rate Slavic empire headed by a mass murdering dwarf.
     
    For the F sake why are you poison your posts with your brainless hate.

    -A country cannot be second rate by providing space ship for "hegemon's" space operation.

    -Putin cannot and will not allow enemy military bases in Ukraine - announced red line.

    -Washington will not allow enemy military bases in Mexico or Central America.

    -Washington killed 3.5 mil civilian on foreign soils since the WWII and you are talking about defending a nuclear superpower red line "murdering dwarf" - murdering dwarf is in Kiev.

    -After 75 years of Bolshevik yoke, Russia's path of improving their standard of living is constantly facing obstacles deliberately created by the "Empire of sanctions" as evidenced by the 90's looting or present sanctions and outright assets theft - actions paving confrontational future for decades.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    Putin cannot and will not allow enemy military bases in Ukraine – announced red line.

    Oh ok why don’t you tell us about this planned military base even though Ukraine didn’t qualify for NATO and wasn’t in the process of applying.

    Or be Putin defender #8231 that avoids trying to backup a statement with data after finding out he was working with bits and pieces from pro-Putin media that were never vetted.

    Washington killed 3.5 mil civilian on foreign soils since the WWII and you are talking about defending a nuclear superpower red line “murdering dwarf” – murdering dwarf is in Kiev.

    Putin is a mass murdering dwarf and a coward. He kills about 1 or 2 journalists a month because he is an intellectual coward that is afraid of having to explain himself. A midget both in height and ability.

    After 75 years of Bolshevik yoke, Russia’s path of improving their standard of living is constantly facing obstacles deliberately created by the “Empire of sanctions” as evidenced by the 90’s looting or present sanctions and outright assets theft – actions paving confrontational future for decades.

    And yet the ex-Bolshevik tiny Baltics with limited resources have a higher standard of living. They somehow managed that without having a mass murdering dwarf dictator. Kind of like Taiwan and China. Looks like your totalitarian state was never needed to improve the lives of the people.

    Mighty Russia can’t offer their workers the standard of living of Estonia.

    Oh and USSR style food lines are back.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/egg-crisis-cracks-russia-putin-failing-to-fulfill-promises-in-wake-of-ukraine-war-fallout/ar-BB1h1vwf

    World is so impressed with the dwarf. A needless war and taking the economy back to 1988.

  199. @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer


    -Washington will not allow enemy military bases in Mexico or Central America.

     

    It de facto allowed them in Cuba for a couple of decades post-Cuban Missile Crisis.

    In any case, I guess that Austria-Hungary couldn't tolerate the risk of Russian military bases in Serbia in 1914 either, right? Or that Nazi Germany couldn't tolerate the risk of French or Soviet military bases in Czechoslovakia in 1938? Or that Nazi Germany couldn't tolerate the risk of French or British military bases in Poland in 1939?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    Do you have reading difficulty? I said Mexico and Central America and you extrapolate that to Austria-Hungary. You are comparing apples and oranges. One cannot compare present military warfare of nuclear superpowers to old armies of Vietnam or Korea – childish.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Derer

    If Austria-Hungary had nuclear weapons, would the comparison be more apt? Or if Nazi Germany had nuclear weapons?

  200. @A123
    @John Johnson



    Disparu’s livelihood is earning money by generating views on YouTube and other social media. His presentation is obviously geared to this financial imperative. It is unsurprising that delivery is somewhat “larger than life”.
     
    So he makes money by expressing the rage of other comic book nerds. Yea well I don’t see how there is an audience
     
    YouTube provides view counts. Disparu's most popular video scored 1.8 Million views. Many others approach 1 Million.

    The Critical Drinker's https://m.youtube.com/@TheCriticalDrinker/videos most popular video is over 8 Million. Many exceed 3 Million views.

    You do not have to view it yourself. However, objective counts show that mass audience exists.


    Girls are half the population and they want to appeal to non-White customers. So what?
     
    Girls do not go to super hero movies even if they are about heroines. Non-white male youths do not care about the race of the protagonist. Wakanda 2 flopped. The audience that grew up with high quality comic books is overwhelmingly heterosexual, male, and white.

    Which of these characters is more appealing to the target audience?

     
    https://media.lelombrik.net/t/3e163d82fa428d5a1e38559ee0c99d15/f/3e163d82fa428d5a1e38559ee0c99d15.png
     

    Does it surprise you that an attractive Black Widow is more popular that the deliberately uglifed Captain Marvel?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Derer

    I like that Jewish girl in black (from Lost in Translation)

  201. @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488

    I hope that a Navalny-led Russia would welcome a lot of culturally compatible immigrants to make up for Navalny’s xenophobic past, such as him calling Caucasians “cockroaches”.

    Russia won’t be able to ever enter the EU unless it will seriously tackle its oligarch and corruption problems. Especially the latter. Ditto for Ukraine, for that matter.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I honestly think Syrian immigrants would improve Russia.

    Rural Russians are some of the worst dregs I have seen in street interviews.

    Half of them appear drunk in the middle of the day.

    Rural Russian POWs seem suicidal. Few can explain the war but they seem indifferent to death. They have a strange combination of national arrogance and nihilistic fatalism.

    I’m no fan of Islam but I really do believe that Syrians would benefit Russia.

    Russians would at least have something new to complain about.

    Russia is the perfect place for Syrian immigrants. A post-Putin Russia could bring in Europe’s Syrians as part of a grand deal.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Why stop with Syrians? Why not take in Afghans, Sub-Saharan Africans, et cetera as well? Mikhail Zygar already has a black husband, after all.

    , @LT1488
    @John Johnson

    You haven't seen rural Americans from Appalachia then.

    , @LT1488
    @John Johnson

    You haven't seen rural Appalachians then.

  202. @Derer
    @AP


    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.
     
    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    Texas is majority Hispanic. Well officially even though it was probably that way 10 years ago.

    The difference is that Texas is not managed by liberals.

    LA is not a White vs Mexican conflict. It’s more wealthy liberals vs everyone else. LA has problems beyond belief. It isn’t what it appears. It’s much darker than what even alt-right imagines.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Texas will eventually be managed by liberals, rest assured. Just like Virginia is today. But don't worry, life won't collapse. Especially if liberals will drop the crazy aspects of their Woke ideology by then.

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    John Johnson wrote:


    LA has problems beyond belief. It isn’t what it appears. It’s much darker than what even alt-right imagines.
     
    What do you mean?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  203. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    Do you have reading difficulty? I said Mexico and Central America and you extrapolate that to Austria-Hungary. You are comparing apples and oranges. One cannot compare present military warfare of nuclear superpowers to old armies of Vietnam or Korea - childish.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    If Austria-Hungary had nuclear weapons, would the comparison be more apt? Or if Nazi Germany had nuclear weapons?

  204. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    I honestly think Syrian immigrants would improve Russia.

    Rural Russians are some of the worst dregs I have seen in street interviews.

    Half of them appear drunk in the middle of the day.

    Rural Russian POWs seem suicidal. Few can explain the war but they seem indifferent to death. They have a strange combination of national arrogance and nihilistic fatalism.

    I'm no fan of Islam but I really do believe that Syrians would benefit Russia.

    Russians would at least have something new to complain about.

    Russia is the perfect place for Syrian immigrants. A post-Putin Russia could bring in Europe's Syrians as part of a grand deal.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488, @LT1488

    Why stop with Syrians? Why not take in Afghans, Sub-Saharan Africans, et cetera as well? Mikhail Zygar already has a black husband, after all.

  205. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    Texas is majority Hispanic. Well officially even though it was probably that way 10 years ago.

    The difference is that Texas is not managed by liberals.

    LA is not a White vs Mexican conflict. It's more wealthy liberals vs everyone else. LA has problems beyond belief. It isn't what it appears. It's much darker than what even alt-right imagines.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    Texas will eventually be managed by liberals, rest assured. Just like Virginia is today. But don’t worry, life won’t collapse. Especially if liberals will drop the crazy aspects of their Woke ideology by then.

  206. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    I honestly think Syrian immigrants would improve Russia.

    Rural Russians are some of the worst dregs I have seen in street interviews.

    Half of them appear drunk in the middle of the day.

    Rural Russian POWs seem suicidal. Few can explain the war but they seem indifferent to death. They have a strange combination of national arrogance and nihilistic fatalism.

    I'm no fan of Islam but I really do believe that Syrians would benefit Russia.

    Russians would at least have something new to complain about.

    Russia is the perfect place for Syrian immigrants. A post-Putin Russia could bring in Europe's Syrians as part of a grand deal.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488, @LT1488

    You haven’t seen rural Americans from Appalachia then.

  207. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    I honestly think Syrian immigrants would improve Russia.

    Rural Russians are some of the worst dregs I have seen in street interviews.

    Half of them appear drunk in the middle of the day.

    Rural Russian POWs seem suicidal. Few can explain the war but they seem indifferent to death. They have a strange combination of national arrogance and nihilistic fatalism.

    I'm no fan of Islam but I really do believe that Syrians would benefit Russia.

    Russians would at least have something new to complain about.

    Russia is the perfect place for Syrian immigrants. A post-Putin Russia could bring in Europe's Syrians as part of a grand deal.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488, @LT1488

    You haven’t seen rural Appalachians then.

  208. @A123
    @QCIC


    Zelensky as Nazi only plays with the Holocaust (Holohoax?) debunker crowd. They don’t hang out in this forum.
     
    Are you stating that Zelensky's Azov brigades use this symbology to be pro-Jewish?

     
    http://www.balancer.ru/sites/com/li/livejournal/pics/ic/da_dzi/8465174/296703/296703_original.jpg
     

    It is objectively true that Zelensky is a post-Judaic apostate who hates authentic Palestinian Jews.
    ___

    Is your goal to split hairs? You believe that anti-Semite Zelensky is only a neo-Nazi, not a full Nazi?

    Beyond his open and obvious hatred of Judaism and personal distance from that religion, I am not attached to specific labelling. I would be willing to concede his hatred of Jews is only neo-Nazi. Regardless of the label, his consent to dig up and desecrate Jewish graves for a condo project is proof of antipathy towards Judaism.

    The key point is that the Ukrainian side, under Zelensky's regime, is wholly non-Judaic in form and function. There may be some people with last names normally associated with ethnic lineage. However, there is nothing from Kiev's rule that ties to the practice of Judaism.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    You sound fanatically strange enough to expect that Zelensky needs to don ultra high Orthodox/Jewish clothing while acting as president of Ukraine in order to not qualify as being a Ukrainian Nazi. Once again, the photo that you present does not include Zelensky. Do you think that anybody reading your comment is going to believe the type of nonsense that you’re tring to spread? Here is a photo that represents the real Zelensky:

    It must bother you to no end that there are rumours being spread that Ukrainian president Zelensky prefers Ukrainian dark bread to matzah when he eats Ukrainian borsch. 🙂

  209. @Derer
    @AP


    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.
     
    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    Derer is too dumb to be able to read.

    I said that American Hispanics beat Slovaks in life expectancy and child educational achievement. I didn’t say they were cleaner, or thinner.

    LA became a lot safer with the Mexican influx. The filth seems to be driven by junkies and homeless though – policies of white liberals.

    And Texas is full of Mexicans. If Californians wee fleeing the Mexicans they would be going somewhere other than Texas. Looks like basic reasoning is as difficult for you as is reading.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    You try to deceive by silly inaccurate numbers. Here are the latest life expectancies:

    USA 77
    USA white 77.4
    US Hispanic 77.9
    Slovakia 78.14
    Czechia 80

    You are clearly lagging. And Hispanics outlive the whites because they have much younger average age - life expectancy goes up with time, so if you have a younger population the projected expectancy will be higher. Are you too stupid to know that?

    LA is a basically a dysfunctional sh..hole and the white libs love Hispanics (maybe even "Lusitanians"). Period. Our kids are healthier, smarter, better looking, taller, much higher achieving. You can hide in your Anglo "Pissa" tests (who cares?), but they reflect nothing about the real life.

    Go to LA and then go to Prague or Bratislava and tell us which society has higher overall IQ, better people, more pleasant life. It only reflects on your own poor reasoning skills that you defend the taco bottom-feeding culture. Sure, one can learn how to live with them - they are certainly better than the libtards - but it is a step down.

    By the way, Ukraine has a 72 year average life expectancy. What is that all about?

    Regarding the pictures, there are nice ladies in every group, you can go to a Papua tribe and find one or two jungle beauties. That's the way it works, the missionaries were not all idiots...:)

    (But, seriously, I am still getting over you sticking some elderly Latin dude's picture with a mustache in there...ok, I know even the pope now, sure, but could you not?)

    Replies: @AP, @Derer

  210. @John Johnson
    @A123

    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.

    Not the marvels but about the dozen comic book movies that preceded it. The new Disney movies were garbage and Star Wars nerds still went to them.

    Disney gets the message loud and clear: We will go to 100% of your Star Wars movies and 85% of the comic book movies. So for every dud like marvels we comic book nerds will still watch anything with Avengers and X-men. Just put some guys in tights and have them fight a giant boss CGI monster. Works every time. Oh but we need some White characters to help with the fantasy. Recycled story is just fine. In fact no story is needed at all. Just use a basic video game theme with gay music.

    Your woke strategy of making movies with broad cast demographics is a complete failure.

    LOL my woke strategy? Yea I'm the most woke person because I'm not surprised that Disney tries to make money off non-Whites. I don't care if the product failed or was a success. I can find my own entertainment.

    There is plenty of money to be made from Hispanics and the NFL is a good example of how it can be done. Kathleen Kennedy's cluelessness and patronizing attitude is the problem and not the strategy in principle.

    Every heterosexual guy will immediately grasp the difference between the two costumes. And, with high levels of accuracy, I can predict exactly what they wish to grasp.

    Did you predict that I would roll my eyes and not give a flying fuck?

    I'm married and don't oggle every single picture of a woman. Single guys definitely obsess more over images of women and they seem to not realize how controlled they are by the opposite sex. I'm not consumed by sexuality and if I wanted to watch porn then I would watch porn. In fact I find it strange that men will watch a 2 hour movie just because it has a chick in a tight costume. Why waste time with a lame story and terrible acting? Just turn on porn. I really don't get it. You can probably find costume themed porn. Female action stars are normally terrible actors. It's hard to find a male action star that can act and even harder for the women. I saw a 2 minute preview for marvels and can tell it has terrible acting just like most comic book movies. Maybe most people can't tell anymore because it is so ubiquitous in these movies. Everyone is barely reading a line to each other and they always have one person in the group that completely sucks. So even if there is a good actor he or she will be stomped on with the suck of someone else. Then there is the CGI character that ruins every scene. I don't see how anyone can watch this crap when there are movies like There Will Be Blood and shows like Mr. Inbetween. These comic book movies are like watching someone play a video game but with corny lines.

    Replies: @A123

    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.

    Not the marvels but about the dozen comic book movies that preceded it.

    Completely untrue. All of these movies flopped:

    • Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
    • The Flash
    • The Marvels
    • Blue Beetle
    • Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
    • Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

    The racially charged movie intended to broaden scope failed. Being racist did not work. I certainly did not see Wakanda 2. It lost money.

    The girl boss movie The Marvels intended intended to attract women failed. Females do not buy tickets to superhero flicks. Even when it is targeted to them. Baring a miracle Madame Web will soon meet a similar fate.

    The homohero movie, The Eternals, crashed and burned back in IIRC 2021.

    Why do you keep insisting that diversity movies work when it is painfully obvious in the numbers that your strategy is failing?

    Far too few people are going versus the production costs. Even with the occasional film that performs well, SJW woke studios are bleeding money. Why do you keep defending them?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Completely untrue. All of these movies flopped:

    A list of duds without the winners. Let's look at actual profits:

    Disney has made $18 billion from Marvel movies since its 2009 Marvel purchase:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/21/disney-has-made-more-than-18-billion-from-marvel-films-since-2012.html

    18 billion from a 4 billion dollar purchase. Terrible comic book movies are making them billions.
     
    Why do you keep insisting that diversity movies work when it is painfully obvious in the numbers that your strategy is failing?

    My strategy? I'm not Disney.

    I pointed out that there is money to be made from Hispanics.

    The NFL has over 30 million Hispanic viewers.

    Kathleen Kennedy's stupid decisions don't somehow negate basic economics. Even with her awful movies they continue to make billions.

    Far too few people are going versus the production costs. Even with the occasional film that performs well, SJW woke studios are bleeding money. Why do you keep defending them?

    How do I defend Disney? I think their movies are awful and I don't watch them.

    You're the one that wants them to change so you have more fictional White men in tights. I really don't care.

    Making billions is not bleeding money. I don't think you understand the term.

    Replies: @A123

  211. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    US is the global cultural hegemon, in large part:

    Aware of that I think it is a tragedy that so many people around the world actually pay full price for this crap. In fact it encourages Hollywood to make CGI movies that don't have much of a story because they translate better.

    The Schumacher films were deliberately tonally different than the Burton ones. Not sure Batman directly killed anyone.

    Well they're garbage as seen by the fact that no one watches them. I've never gone to someone's house and seen those movies out. The 60s movie is also garbage.

    There was never a golden age of comic book movies.

    In fact there was never a golden age of movies. Hollywood has producing low quality theater filler since its existence. It exists to make the screen blink and get people to buy popcorn. That continues with all these comic book movies. They could make a gay Hulk and people will go and watch it. A123 will watch it in the theater and then turn on his favorite podcast and nod in agreement about how the gay orgy scene with Captain America was completely unnecessary. A 2 hour discussion on how these Woke movie makers just don't respect the audience that keeps giving them money and attention.

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. Hack

    I think that there were a few good comic book movies early on, out about 25 years ago. The first few Spiderman and Thor flicks were good with very little if any of the woke stuff that has destroyed the genre today. Even a few of the early X-men ones weren’t too bad. These were all heroes that were created and enjoyed during the silver age (1960 -1980). Things have gone terribly wrongly for the Marvel/Disney franchise since then, although I did enjoy the first Dr. Strange movie. I really enjoyed reading these silver age comics as a kid, and therefore tend to give these flix a look, although to be honest, the last one thaat I paid money to watch was the Dr. Strange one, must have been at least 10 years ago, I don;t go out of my to look for any of them on my 4K TV,

  212. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Mexican characters, whether human or animal, are great. Dora the Explorer and Speedy Gonzales, for instance. White liberals were probably more offended by Speedy than actual Mexicans or Mexican-Americans were.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Dora_the_Explorer_%28character%29.webp

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/3b516cb39a65905afae6b8f895c145d603cc33ee/0_178_1600_960/master/1600.jpg?width=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=252109e6450c534ed3d6cab4ac268e81

    Replies: @QCIC

    Please tell me that no actual person was offended by Speedy Gonzales!

    I guess the concept of the character was snarky since the stereotype is that Mexicans are slow and lazy. Sort of like naming your pet snail “Turbo”.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    My instinct is that Speedy was part of Cold War outreach, but I can't find anything to that effect on the wiki. He debuted in 1953 or 1955, and in 1954, US toppled the regime in Guatamala.

    In 1955, the Soviets released the movie The Mexican.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mexican_(1955_film)

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/9/cancel-speedy-gonzales-not-so-fast-latinos-say/


    “Neither me nor anyone amongst my family and friends in Mexico felt offended by Speedy Gonzales,” tweeted the account named Hispanic Citizen. “He was intelligent, witty, the fastest of them all and would always outsmart his rivals. The sombreros? Many Mexicans wear them with pride every World Cup. I love Speedy.”

    It’s not the first time the mouse has been targeted — and has survived due to the cascade of love shown on him from the Latino community.

    In 1999, Speedy Gonzales was banned from the Cartoon Network after it decided the cartoon was too offensive and reinforced negative Mexican stereotypes like speaking in a heavy accent and wearing a sombrero. The network reinstated him three years later after fan outrage.

    The League of United Latin American Citizens, a Latino anti-discrimination organization, helped get Speedy back on the air after Cartoon Network shelved him.

    “In Mexico we grew up watching Speedy Gonzales,” Eugenio Derbez, told Deadline at the time. “He was like a superhero to us, or maybe more like a revolucionario like Simón Bolívar or Pancho Villa.”
     
    It's a case of white liberals pretending to know better what's offensive to Hispanics than Hispanics themselves.
  213. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    Suppose the situation of US cultural dominance might be even bleaker that those figures suggest, as they probably don’t count US influence on foreign productions.

    US cultural dominance is indeed bleaker.

    The figures don't include piracy.

    Asian and African countries gobble down this sludge down but in pirated forms.

    The profits are higher than they show because they play games with foreign profits. They come up with creative ways to pay out before taking the profits home where they are taxed. Our doofus conservatives won't go after them and then gruff about Hollywood funding the left.

    some of these center-right critics on YouTube can get a little tedious or even seem woke at times, but on the balance I suspect they may be a positive.

    I just don't get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @songbird

    I just don’t get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.

    Well, DIE is a zero-sum game.

    A lot of these properties are designed to appeal specifically to nostalgia, so, even in Normies, they trigger some noticing about race.

    [MORE]

    On the one hand, one can argue that part of it is economics. But clearly mixed with politics, and even the economic part of it is because it is an endorsement of the process of demographic change, as well as a substitution for any ethnically coherent thing, where there could even be any appeal to identity.

    Plus, they often use the diversity as a vehicle to pitch their message that Euros are evil or blacks numinous. In the Zoro films Antonio Banderas LARPed as a Latino and fought some really Germanic-looking villain, with blond hair and blue eyes.

    Seems like the love interests are seldom the same race anymore.

    Meanwhile, you get all this crazy talk about representation where they use categories like Asian/Pacific Islander and say Chinese people who have their own massive industry are underrepresented, but the Rock, who most of the Chinese would presumably see as an alien from outer space, is a positive change in getting more representation for the group, which in the 1800s included stone-age cannibals, as well as people with cities of a million, like Edo, or near a million like Beijing (which was limited by imperial decree.)

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I tend to agree with a lot of what you write here. I don't think that we'll be seeing any sort of Cato (Pink Panther fame) type Asian character anytime soon, or Hop Sing from Bonanza either. Both were comedic type characters that added a smart-alek but funny portrayal of Asian characters. I think that the cowboy genre was the last (only?) Hollywood attempt to shed some respect towards the white American ethnos. It's no wonder that Westerns have fallen on quiet times.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @A123
    @songbird


    Well, DIE is a zero-sum game.

    A lot of these properties are designed to appeal specifically to nostalgia, so, even in Normies, they trigger some noticing about race.
     

    Inserting things here and there without breaking the core story elements worked. Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.

    Then the crazies were elevated to be in charge. Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they "do not attract the male gaze" has been a failure. Especially when they insist on stripping male characters of their shirts as much as possible. The double standard is now so bad it pulls even normies out of the film.
    ___

    They are pushing the woke gay feminist DIE agendas in a way that interferes with the story telling.

    The "hero's journey" story starts with a weak protagonist that has a character arc through the story. In the comic book genre, if they have powers at the beginning they cannot control them or do not know how best to use them. The idea is universal and could work with either male or female protagonist.

    The "girl boss" story starts with a powerful female character that is immediately maximum effective at whatever she does. The attempted tale has nothing to do with her growth and change. Instead it is about the world accepting her for what she is. Audiences do not accept this type of protagonist, because they are often grating and smug.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    , @sudden death
    @songbird


    a substitution for any ethnically coherent thing, where there could even be any appeal to identity
     
    Certain historical films can be used as a reservation refugee for identarians, but even in 1991 there already were mainstream attempts to to extinguish that reservation, e.g. Robin Hood with black moor slave friend in England as different races" buddy cop" variation movie in historical setting.

    However since AI video technology has been developing quite fast lately, in theory it will be increasingly hard to to do the gatekeeping as every talented "racist" will be able to create its own moving pictures relatively easily&cheaply:


    Introducing Pika 1.0, the idea-to-video platform that brings your creativity to life.
    Create and edit your videos with AI.
     
    Of course it would be better to think of counterarguments in advance, regarding inevitable accusations about "racism", e.g. historical times were "cruel, bad and horrible" therefore introducing POC characters in euroareas would be unnecesarry sweetening of the past and ignorance of the suffering as they were really so badly hated/discriminated then, that you couldn't find any such person in real life around, lol ;)


    https://twitter.com/pika_labs/status/1729510078959497562

    Replies: @songbird

  214. @songbird
    @John Johnson


    I just don’t get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.
     
    Well, DIE is a zero-sum game.

    A lot of these properties are designed to appeal specifically to nostalgia, so, even in Normies, they trigger some noticing about race.

    On the one hand, one can argue that part of it is economics. But clearly mixed with politics, and even the economic part of it is because it is an endorsement of the process of demographic change, as well as a substitution for any ethnically coherent thing, where there could even be any appeal to identity.

    Plus, they often use the diversity as a vehicle to pitch their message that Euros are evil or blacks numinous. In the Zoro films Antonio Banderas LARPed as a Latino and fought some really Germanic-looking villain, with blond hair and blue eyes.

    Seems like the love interests are seldom the same race anymore.

    Meanwhile, you get all this crazy talk about representation where they use categories like Asian/Pacific Islander and say Chinese people who have their own massive industry are underrepresented, but the Rock, who most of the Chinese would presumably see as an alien from outer space, is a positive change in getting more representation for the group, which in the 1800s included stone-age cannibals, as well as people with cities of a million, like Edo, or near a million like Beijing (which was limited by imperial decree.)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @sudden death

    I tend to agree with a lot of what you write here. I don’t think that we’ll be seeing any sort of Cato (Pink Panther fame) type Asian character anytime soon, or Hop Sing from Bonanza either. Both were comedic type characters that added a smart-alek but funny portrayal of Asian characters. I think that the cowboy genre was the last (only?) Hollywood attempt to shed some respect towards the white American ethnos. It’s no wonder that Westerns have fallen on quiet times.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Am not really familiar with the Pink Panther films, but am moderately familiar with the other Kato (not the OJ one, but the Green Hornet one).

    A lot of weird politics developed around the character, who initially was a radio character. He was originally supposed to be Filipino - that was when the Philipines was still a US territory. And his day job was to be a servant to Britt Reid, who was wealthy, kind of like Batman, and who owned a newspaper. He was like Batman's Alfred combined with the Lone Ranger's Tonto, as he was younger and more vigorous.

    When they made the TV show, Bruce Lee was cast as Kato. Obviously, he had better martial art skills than the the lead, but they didn't make him the star because that wasn't what the property was about, and, moreover, it would have been harder to sell it. (Though in HK, it was called the Kato Show)

    Well, they turn that into some narrative of racism or of Bruce Lee being oppressed. The result is that when they make movie in 2011, it is riddled with politics. It is made into a comedy, where Britt Reid is imbecile and Kato the mastermind.

    They did something similar with the Lone Ranger, which BTW is a related property. Britt Reid's family fortune was supposed to come from his inheritance from a silver mine that came from his relative the Lone Ranger.

    Interestingly, the star of the Green Hornet was the great grandson of a very famous US communist. Same (communist) name.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Hammer
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armie_Hammer

  215. @John Johnson
    @Derer

    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    Texas is majority Hispanic. Well officially even though it was probably that way 10 years ago.

    The difference is that Texas is not managed by liberals.

    LA is not a White vs Mexican conflict. It's more wealthy liberals vs everyone else. LA has problems beyond belief. It isn't what it appears. It's much darker than what even alt-right imagines.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @QCIC

    John Johnson wrote:

    LA has problems beyond belief. It isn’t what it appears. It’s much darker than what even alt-right imagines.

    What do you mean?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC


    LA has problems beyond belief. It isn’t what it appears. It’s much darker than what even alt-right imagines.

     

    What do you mean?

    It has a dark and soulless undercurrent that embraces the worst of capitalism. Alt-right focuses on the racial/liberal aspect and is unaware of its disturbingly dark capitalist underbelly.

    There is basically a lot of suffering and toiling behind the scenes so the wealthy can play.

    Not just wealthy liberals. There are all these spoiled assholes from third world countries that treat it like a theme park. Born rich and they treat the people around them like slaves. Arabs in 200k sports cars speeding around as if America is their own personal fun land. Really the worst of globalism. No unifying culture and the majority is expected to toil in silence for a spoiled wealthy minority. The extremes between rich and poor are unreal.

    Laredo is also majority Hispanic but might as well be a different country.

  216. Satanic regime is continuing persecution of Orthodox priests:

    One example is the 86-year-old Archbishop Viktor Pivovarov. In March 2023, he was fined for an anti-war sermon, while in December a criminal case was opened against him for “repeatedly discrediting the Russian army.” He now faces up to five years in prison.

    In response to journalists asking whether he was afraid of going to prison, the archbishop replied that he was waiting for it.

    “I am waiting for it, either to be killed or imprisoned. Then the world will find out and be interested in who I was, how I knew [about things] before others,” said Pivovarov.

    https://russiapost.info/digest/russian_priests

  217. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Please tell me that no actual person was offended by Speedy Gonzales!

    I guess the concept of the character was snarky since the stereotype is that Mexicans are slow and lazy. Sort of like naming your pet snail "Turbo".

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    My instinct is that Speedy was part of Cold War outreach, but I can’t find anything to that effect on the wiki. He debuted in 1953 or 1955, and in 1954, US toppled the regime in Guatamala.

    In 1955, the Soviets released the movie The Mexican.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mexican_(1955_film)

  218. @songbird
    @John Johnson


    I just don’t get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.
     
    Well, DIE is a zero-sum game.

    A lot of these properties are designed to appeal specifically to nostalgia, so, even in Normies, they trigger some noticing about race.

    On the one hand, one can argue that part of it is economics. But clearly mixed with politics, and even the economic part of it is because it is an endorsement of the process of demographic change, as well as a substitution for any ethnically coherent thing, where there could even be any appeal to identity.

    Plus, they often use the diversity as a vehicle to pitch their message that Euros are evil or blacks numinous. In the Zoro films Antonio Banderas LARPed as a Latino and fought some really Germanic-looking villain, with blond hair and blue eyes.

    Seems like the love interests are seldom the same race anymore.

    Meanwhile, you get all this crazy talk about representation where they use categories like Asian/Pacific Islander and say Chinese people who have their own massive industry are underrepresented, but the Rock, who most of the Chinese would presumably see as an alien from outer space, is a positive change in getting more representation for the group, which in the 1800s included stone-age cannibals, as well as people with cities of a million, like Edo, or near a million like Beijing (which was limited by imperial decree.)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @sudden death

    Well, DIE is a zero-sum game.

    A lot of these properties are designed to appeal specifically to nostalgia, so, even in Normies, they trigger some noticing about race.

    Inserting things here and there without breaking the core story elements worked. Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.

    Then the crazies were elevated to be in charge. Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they “do not attract the male gaze” has been a failure. Especially when they insist on stripping male characters of their shirts as much as possible. The double standard is now so bad it pulls even normies out of the film.
    ___

    They are pushing the woke gay feminist DIE agendas in a way that interferes with the story telling.

    The “hero’s journey” story starts with a weak protagonist that has a character arc through the story. In the comic book genre, if they have powers at the beginning they cannot control them or do not know how best to use them. The idea is universal and could work with either male or female protagonist.

    The “girl boss” story starts with a powerful female character that is immediately maximum effective at whatever she does. The attempted tale has nothing to do with her growth and change. Instead it is about the world accepting her for what she is. Audiences do not accept this type of protagonist, because they are often grating and smug.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123


    Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.
     
    In other words, I think you are saying they had similarly perceived testosterone levels, unlike what they did with Jimmy Olson, or some of the female characters.

    Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they “do not attract the male gaze” has been a failure.
     
    Possibly could have been some wardrobe design failure.

    Worse when they cast uggos, IMO.

    Replies: @A123

  219. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I tend to agree with a lot of what you write here. I don't think that we'll be seeing any sort of Cato (Pink Panther fame) type Asian character anytime soon, or Hop Sing from Bonanza either. Both were comedic type characters that added a smart-alek but funny portrayal of Asian characters. I think that the cowboy genre was the last (only?) Hollywood attempt to shed some respect towards the white American ethnos. It's no wonder that Westerns have fallen on quiet times.

    Replies: @songbird

    Am not really familiar with the Pink Panther films, but am moderately familiar with the other Kato (not the OJ one, but the Green Hornet one).

    [MORE]

    A lot of weird politics developed around the character, who initially was a radio character. He was originally supposed to be Filipino – that was when the Philipines was still a US territory. And his day job was to be a servant to Britt Reid, who was wealthy, kind of like Batman, and who owned a newspaper. He was like Batman’s Alfred combined with the Lone Ranger’s Tonto, as he was younger and more vigorous.

    When they made the TV show, Bruce Lee was cast as Kato. Obviously, he had better martial art skills than the the lead, but they didn’t make him the star because that wasn’t what the property was about, and, moreover, it would have been harder to sell it. (Though in HK, it was called the Kato Show)

    Well, they turn that into some narrative of racism or of Bruce Lee being oppressed. The result is that when they make movie in 2011, it is riddled with politics. It is made into a comedy, where Britt Reid is imbecile and Kato the mastermind.

    They did something similar with the Lone Ranger, which BTW is a related property. Britt Reid’s family fortune was supposed to come from his inheritance from a silver mine that came from his relative the Lone Ranger.

    Interestingly, the star of the Green Hornet was the great grandson of a very famous US communist. Same (communist) name.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Hammer
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armie_Hammer

  220. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I think you are lost. On the home page Sailer is just above.

    Replies: @Sean, @Emil Nikola Richard

    No.

    Sailerville cannot grok the reality of Shoei Otani. He is the poster boy hero for trauma recovery in 2024.

    The video could use more polished editing for conciseness but the data in there is gold. They left out the part where he sleeps twelve hours a day; seems to be the only important part omitted.

    • Replies: @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    If it weren't for the 'GQ' logo, I might of mistaken that for a Wheaties 'Breakfast of Champions' cereal box! :-D

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  221. @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488

    I think that he tends to view Slavs and Hispanics rather similarly. Especially if they're both Catholic.

    I wonder what future AP will see for Russia if Russian liberals will ever come to power there. Would they embrace mass immigration like Western liberals have? If so, would it primarily be from the Muslim world or from some other places, such as India, Southeast Asia, and/or Sub-Saharan Africa as well? I have previously flirted with an idea of giving Third Worlders Russian--or Ukrainian, for that matter--immigration rights to Russia--or Ukraine--if they will actually sincerely agree to convert to Russian--or Ukrainian--Orthodoxy.

    Replies: @LT1488, @AP

    I wonder what future AP will see for Russia if Russian liberals will ever come to power there. Would they embrace mass immigration like Western liberals have

    Probably not. Even Navalny once referred to people from the Caucuses as cockroaches.

    The template for liberal Eastern Europeans is Czechia. Libertinism, secularism and democracy, but not mass immigration (this is why people who claim liberalizing Poland will be another Ireland, full of non-Europeans, are just wrong. Liberalizing Poland will be more like Czechia).

    That having been said, unlike Czechia (or Poland), Russia does border several fecund Islamic countries and has a large native Muslim population, so increased Muslim population is inevitable.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Even Navalny once referred to people from the Caucuses as cockroaches.
     
    Yes, and the West subsequently punished him for it:

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2021/05/statement-on-alexei-navalnys-status-as-prisoner-of-conscience/

    Basically, Amnesty International temporarily took away Navalny's prisoner of conscience status as a result of his past xenophobic and bigoted statements, before re-instating it due to fears that Putin was abusing him.

    Basically, my own logic here is this: Even someone like Navalny might want to appear more "handshake-worthy" in Western eyes by repudiating his past views on these things, and the best way to do that is not merely to make some symbolic gestures but rather to indicate that Russia is wide open for mass immigration. Navalny could portray this experience and change of views as an epiphany of sorts for him.

    The template for liberal Eastern Europeans is Czechia. Libertinism, secularism and democracy, but not mass immigration (this is why people who claim liberalizing Poland will be another Ireland, full of non-Europeans, are just wrong. Liberalizing Poland will be more like Czechia).

    That having been said, unlike Czechia (or Poland), Russia does border several fecund Islamic countries and has a large native Muslim population, so increased Muslim population is inevitable.
     

    False analogy, because Russia has a long history of ruling over and integrating Muslims, and often rather successfully, whereas Czechia (and Poland/the PLC) does not. Austria-Hungary historically did not have many Muslims other than in Bosnia and Herzegovina, which it only ruled for several decades (mostly as an occupying force) and which was only officially a part of Austria-Hungary for just a single decade. In contrast, Russia ruled over Muslims for many decades and often for much longer. Thus, it's not unreasonable to hypothesize that Muslims would integrate better in Russia than they would somewhere like Czechia, similar to how it's not unreasonable to hypothesize that Syrian refugees would integrate better in Turkey (due to them being the descendants of former Ottoman subjects for centuries) than somewhere like Germany (unless perhaps they are cognitive elites or middle-class types). So, it makes sense for Russian liberals to push for mass immigration, including of the Muslim kind, in a way that it does not make sense for, say, Czech or Polish liberals to do so.

    One could wonder whether in the absence of Communism, Muslims would have been for Greater Russia what Latin Americans are for the US. One can indeed even view Kazakhstan (and northern Kyrgyzstan as well) as a mixed Muslim-Slavic space similar to how the US Southwest is a mixed Anglo-Latin American space.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

  222. @A123
    @John Johnson



    They *ARE NOT* paying full price. They are not going at all.
     
    Not the marvels but about the dozen comic book movies that preceded it.
     
    Completely untrue. All of these movies flopped:

    • Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
    • The Flash
    • The Marvels
    • Blue Beetle
    • Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
    • Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

    The racially charged movie intended to broaden scope failed. Being racist did not work. I certainly did not see Wakanda 2. It lost money.

    The girl boss movie The Marvels intended intended to attract women failed. Females do not buy tickets to superhero flicks. Even when it is targeted to them. Baring a miracle Madame Web will soon meet a similar fate.

    The homohero movie, The Eternals, crashed and burned back in IIRC 2021.

    Why do you keep insisting that diversity movies work when it is painfully obvious in the numbers that your strategy is failing?

    Far too few people are going versus the production costs. Even with the occasional film that performs well, SJW woke studios are bleeding money. Why do you keep defending them?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Completely untrue. All of these movies flopped:

    A list of duds without the winners. Let’s look at actual profits:

    Disney has made $18 billion from Marvel movies since its 2009 Marvel purchase:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/21/disney-has-made-more-than-18-billion-from-marvel-films-since-2012.html

    18 billion from a 4 billion dollar purchase. Terrible comic book movies are making them billions.
     
    Why do you keep insisting that diversity movies work when it is painfully obvious in the numbers that your strategy is failing?

    My strategy? I’m not Disney.

    I pointed out that there is money to be made from Hispanics.

    The NFL has over 30 million Hispanic viewers.

    Kathleen Kennedy’s stupid decisions don’t somehow negate basic economics. Even with her awful movies they continue to make billions.

    Far too few people are going versus the production costs. Even with the occasional film that performs well, SJW woke studios are bleeding money. Why do you keep defending them?

    How do I defend Disney? I think their movies are awful and I don’t watch them.

    You’re the one that wants them to change so you have more fictional White men in tights. I really don’t care.

    Making billions is not bleeding money. I don’t think you understand the term.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    ROTFL -- We started this thread with streamers criticizing SJW movies. Disparu's oldest non-gaming video is only 2-3 years back. Other, more established streams really only have 5 years of history in quantity. Going back to 2009 entirely misses the point. That includes the period before the SJW woke mob destroyed Disney, including Marvel, movies. The good films out weighed the weak ones in MCU Phases 1&2.

    Why do you defend Disney's horrible results last year, 2023? (1)


    Nolte: Disney on Track to Lose Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops

     

    The Disney Grooming Institute had the worst box office year imaginable in 2023. Couldn’t happen to a nicer den of thieves of children’s innocence.

    After losing $106 million on Lightyear (2022) and another $152 million on Strange World (2022) — both of which featured prominent gay plotlines aimed at little kids — the Disney Grooming Syndicate roared into 2023, hoping for a much better year. But…

    Thanks to Disney’s cratered reputation and string of terrible movies where good storytelling and relatable characters took a backseat to divisive politics, 2023 was an even bigger disaster.

    According to my imperfect but good-faith estimates, only one Disney movie went into the black.
    ...
    But let’s be real here… When you release three Marvel movies, an Indiana Jones movie, a Pixar movie, and a 100th-anniversary animated movie (Wish), you’re not supposed to lose $745.5 million. You’re supposed to net $745.5 million.

    You only lose $745.5 million when you’ve lost the goodwill of your core audience (decent parents), and your movies stink because you put identity over storytelling and token characters over relatable characters.

    Finally, there are the incalculable down-market losses: toy sales, theme park attractions, and above all, reputation. Going into 2023, Disney already had a reputation as a danger to small children. After this disastrous year, Disney has a reputation for being a danger to kids and making lousy movies.
     
    The one movie that did not lose money was the finale pic, Guardians of the Galaxy 3. With James Gunn's departure, there will not be a #4.

    Your girl boss movies don't make money. Your race baiting movies don't make money. Your other woke concepts don't make money. They lost in 2022. They lost in 2023. And, it is not hard to predict more losses in 2024.

    You keep insisting that diversity is great. But your Disney is hemorrhaging money pushing your woke SJW agenda. Over $750 million last year alone. Your woke Warner Brothers/DC is also failing. WB could wind up in bankruptcy this year.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    Replies: @John Johnson

  223. @songbird
    @John Johnson


    I just don’t get the outrage over fictional characters. Wah wah my robot dog hero from childhood is now a Mexican. This changes everything.
     
    Well, DIE is a zero-sum game.

    A lot of these properties are designed to appeal specifically to nostalgia, so, even in Normies, they trigger some noticing about race.

    On the one hand, one can argue that part of it is economics. But clearly mixed with politics, and even the economic part of it is because it is an endorsement of the process of demographic change, as well as a substitution for any ethnically coherent thing, where there could even be any appeal to identity.

    Plus, they often use the diversity as a vehicle to pitch their message that Euros are evil or blacks numinous. In the Zoro films Antonio Banderas LARPed as a Latino and fought some really Germanic-looking villain, with blond hair and blue eyes.

    Seems like the love interests are seldom the same race anymore.

    Meanwhile, you get all this crazy talk about representation where they use categories like Asian/Pacific Islander and say Chinese people who have their own massive industry are underrepresented, but the Rock, who most of the Chinese would presumably see as an alien from outer space, is a positive change in getting more representation for the group, which in the 1800s included stone-age cannibals, as well as people with cities of a million, like Edo, or near a million like Beijing (which was limited by imperial decree.)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123, @sudden death

    a substitution for any ethnically coherent thing, where there could even be any appeal to identity

    Certain historical films can be used as a reservation refugee for identarians, but even in 1991 there already were mainstream attempts to to extinguish that reservation, e.g. Robin Hood with black moor slave friend in England as different races” buddy cop” variation movie in historical setting.

    However since AI video technology has been developing quite fast lately, in theory it will be increasingly hard to to do the gatekeeping as every talented “racist” will be able to create its own moving pictures relatively easily&cheaply:

    Introducing Pika 1.0, the idea-to-video platform that brings your creativity to life.
    Create and edit your videos with AI.

    Of course it would be better to think of counterarguments in advance, regarding inevitable accusations about “racism”, e.g. historical times were “cruel, bad and horrible” therefore introducing POC characters in euroareas would be unnecesarry sweetening of the past and ignorance of the suffering as they were really so badly hated/discriminated then, that you couldn’t find any such person in real life around, lol 😉

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @songbird
    @sudden death

    At the start of the era of talkies, Hollywood used to film movies with different actors in the same roles, speaking different languages for export.

    It was an adjustment from silent movies, which had been easier to sell overseas.

    But then they figured out it was a lot easier to dub for the major markets and sub for the minor ones.

    What was done with sound almost inevitably seems like it can be done with picture.

    Conceivably AI or some other technology could change the cost or energy barrier where race-swapping can be done simultaneously and tailored to the audience.

    With streaming, the distribution already is different.

    Personally, I don't see why they can't just ship the used costumes to Nollywood and use bluescreens or stagecraft, while paying Nigerian actors $20/hour, a massive sum there. Everything done on a budget can be done at quantity.

    I'd cut into the welfare fund a tiny bit, and finance it that way - if representation is that important. There could even be slight rewrites on the script. (BTW, I think most American blacks would be in favor of such a move - if enough of the actors were American blacks)

    But I suppose the whole thing is tied together. Acknowledging that there might be benefits to such a scheme would undermine the idea of a multicultural society.

  224. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Completely untrue. All of these movies flopped:

    A list of duds without the winners. Let's look at actual profits:

    Disney has made $18 billion from Marvel movies since its 2009 Marvel purchase:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/21/disney-has-made-more-than-18-billion-from-marvel-films-since-2012.html

    18 billion from a 4 billion dollar purchase. Terrible comic book movies are making them billions.
     
    Why do you keep insisting that diversity movies work when it is painfully obvious in the numbers that your strategy is failing?

    My strategy? I'm not Disney.

    I pointed out that there is money to be made from Hispanics.

    The NFL has over 30 million Hispanic viewers.

    Kathleen Kennedy's stupid decisions don't somehow negate basic economics. Even with her awful movies they continue to make billions.

    Far too few people are going versus the production costs. Even with the occasional film that performs well, SJW woke studios are bleeding money. Why do you keep defending them?

    How do I defend Disney? I think their movies are awful and I don't watch them.

    You're the one that wants them to change so you have more fictional White men in tights. I really don't care.

    Making billions is not bleeding money. I don't think you understand the term.

    Replies: @A123

    ROTFL — We started this thread with streamers criticizing SJW movies. Disparu’s oldest non-gaming video is only 2-3 years back. Other, more established streams really only have 5 years of history in quantity. Going back to 2009 entirely misses the point. That includes the period before the SJW woke mob destroyed Disney, including Marvel, movies. The good films out weighed the weak ones in MCU Phases 1&2.

    Why do you defend Disney’s horrible results last year, 2023? (1)

    Nolte: Disney on Track to Lose Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops

    The Disney Grooming Institute had the worst box office year imaginable in 2023. Couldn’t happen to a nicer den of thieves of children’s innocence.

    After losing $106 million on Lightyear (2022) and another $152 million on Strange World (2022) — both of which featured prominent gay plotlines aimed at little kids — the Disney Grooming Syndicate roared into 2023, hoping for a much better year. But…

    Thanks to Disney’s cratered reputation and string of terrible movies where good storytelling and relatable characters took a backseat to divisive politics, 2023 was an even bigger disaster.

    According to my imperfect but good-faith estimates, only one Disney movie went into the black.

    But let’s be real here… When you release three Marvel movies, an Indiana Jones movie, a Pixar movie, and a 100th-anniversary animated movie (Wish), you’re not supposed to lose $745.5 million. You’re supposed to net $745.5 million.

    You only lose $745.5 million when you’ve lost the goodwill of your core audience (decent parents), and your movies stink because you put identity over storytelling and token characters over relatable characters.

    Finally, there are the incalculable down-market losses: toy sales, theme park attractions, and above all, reputation. Going into 2023, Disney already had a reputation as a danger to small children. After this disastrous year, Disney has a reputation for being a danger to kids and making lousy movies.

    The one movie that did not lose money was the finale pic, Guardians of the Galaxy 3. With James Gunn’s departure, there will not be a #4.

    Your girl boss movies don’t make money. Your race baiting movies don’t make money. Your other woke concepts don’t make money. They lost in 2022. They lost in 2023. And, it is not hard to predict more losses in 2024.

    You keep insisting that diversity is great. But your Disney is hemorrhaging money pushing your woke SJW agenda. Over $750 million last year alone. Your woke Warner Brothers/DC is also failing. WB could wind up in bankruptcy this year.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Going back to 2009 entirely misses the point. That includes the period before the SJW woke mob destroyed Disney, including Marvel, movies.

    That's your opinion. I think 90% of Marvel movies are garbage.

    You seem to not like how some of them have female or minority characters.

    Well they have been making successful minori-team movies since Xmen. Those movies were huge sellers and there were plenty of White men willing to pay full price for men in spandex.

    Avengers had a multi-racial cast. Wakanda 1 was a hit.

    I think they are all shit movies and race/liberal agenda has nothing to do with it.

    What exactly is the woke part? Not having enough White guys as fictional characters designed for children?

    Your girl boss movies don’t make money.

    My girl boss movies? I don't watch any of this stuff. You seem to take all of this personally.

    Disney made 7 billion in a single quarter last year:
    https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DIS/disney/gross-profit

    You call that bleeding?

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

  225. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    John Johnson wrote:


    LA has problems beyond belief. It isn’t what it appears. It’s much darker than what even alt-right imagines.
     
    What do you mean?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    LA has problems beyond belief. It isn’t what it appears. It’s much darker than what even alt-right imagines.

    What do you mean?

    It has a dark and soulless undercurrent that embraces the worst of capitalism. Alt-right focuses on the racial/liberal aspect and is unaware of its disturbingly dark capitalist underbelly.

    There is basically a lot of suffering and toiling behind the scenes so the wealthy can play.

    Not just wealthy liberals. There are all these spoiled assholes from third world countries that treat it like a theme park. Born rich and they treat the people around them like slaves. Arabs in 200k sports cars speeding around as if America is their own personal fun land. Really the worst of globalism. No unifying culture and the majority is expected to toil in silence for a spoiled wealthy minority. The extremes between rich and poor are unreal.

    Laredo is also majority Hispanic but might as well be a different country.

    • Thanks: QCIC, Mr. Hack
  226. @Derer
    @AP


    US Hispanics beat the Slovak Republic.
     
    In what? Are you insane? Have you been to LA 30-40 years ago and then in recent years. By the influx of Hispanics it became a filthy shit hole with long crumbs and soup donation lines. People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP, @AnonfromTN

    People are leaving, mostly to Texas.

    People are leaving several blue states that libtards made unlivable, including CA and NY. Most are heading to the red states that are still livable. There was a suggestion in TN to suspend the voting rights of refugees from blue states for at least five years: they turned their states into shitholes by their libtard voting, they should not be allowed to turn TN into a shithole. From my POW, makes perfect sense.

  227. It’s been commented on before how the ‘New Rome’ (ie the United States) since it’s very founding has in many instances uncannily paralleled ancient Rome in it’s history. Indeed, the United States since the time of it’s creation, has consciously wished to emulate the Roman republic. This Yemen action of late might be another example, though we’ll have to see what transpires.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Romans_in_Arabia

    Shortly after the Roman Republic had transitioned to a dictatorship under Caesar Augustus, this same emperor in 26BC, in an ancient version of ‘gunboat diplomacy’, directed a land and seaborne operation with ten thousand troops under the command of Aelius Gallus against the Kingdom of Saba in present day Yemen. The goal was to either intimidate the Sabaens into becoming either a vassal of Rome, or, if not that, to outright conquer them. This was part of an effort by Rome to further secure the route of it’s rich seaborne trade with India which had developed since it’s conquest of Egypt in the decades prior.

    Not impressed with Rome’s army and navy being parked just outside it’s borders and ports, the Sabaeans told the Romans to get lost in regards to the proposal of becoming a Roman client state.

    Rome’s navy then took and temporarily occupied the present day port city of Aden, while Rome’s army marched inland and laid seige to the Sabaen’s capitol city of Marib. The Sabaens stood firm, however, and the siege failed after about a week, partly thought due to the unexpectedly hostile desert weather conditions the Romans were facing. In generally what is seen as having overall been a disaster, the Roman army and navy soon gave up on the Sabaen enterprise and returned back to Egypt.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @S

    Considering that after this failed expedition Roman empire still had about roughly several centuries of relatively good peak life, comparison might be vieved as favourable regarding USA oncoming future;)

    Replies: @songbird, @S

  228. @sudden death
    @songbird


    a substitution for any ethnically coherent thing, where there could even be any appeal to identity
     
    Certain historical films can be used as a reservation refugee for identarians, but even in 1991 there already were mainstream attempts to to extinguish that reservation, e.g. Robin Hood with black moor slave friend in England as different races" buddy cop" variation movie in historical setting.

    However since AI video technology has been developing quite fast lately, in theory it will be increasingly hard to to do the gatekeeping as every talented "racist" will be able to create its own moving pictures relatively easily&cheaply:


    Introducing Pika 1.0, the idea-to-video platform that brings your creativity to life.
    Create and edit your videos with AI.
     
    Of course it would be better to think of counterarguments in advance, regarding inevitable accusations about "racism", e.g. historical times were "cruel, bad and horrible" therefore introducing POC characters in euroareas would be unnecesarry sweetening of the past and ignorance of the suffering as they were really so badly hated/discriminated then, that you couldn't find any such person in real life around, lol ;)


    https://twitter.com/pika_labs/status/1729510078959497562

    Replies: @songbird

    At the start of the era of talkies, Hollywood used to film movies with different actors in the same roles, speaking different languages for export.

    It was an adjustment from silent movies, which had been easier to sell overseas.

    But then they figured out it was a lot easier to dub for the major markets and sub for the minor ones.

    What was done with sound almost inevitably seems like it can be done with picture.

    Conceivably AI or some other technology could change the cost or energy barrier where race-swapping can be done simultaneously and tailored to the audience.

    With streaming, the distribution already is different.

    [MORE]

    Personally, I don’t see why they can’t just ship the used costumes to Nollywood and use bluescreens or stagecraft, while paying Nigerian actors $20/hour, a massive sum there. Everything done on a budget can be done at quantity.

    I’d cut into the welfare fund a tiny bit, and finance it that way – if representation is that important. There could even be slight rewrites on the script. (BTW, I think most American blacks would be in favor of such a move – if enough of the actors were American blacks)

    But I suppose the whole thing is tied together. Acknowledging that there might be benefits to such a scheme would undermine the idea of a multicultural society.

  229. @A123
    @John Johnson

    ROTFL -- We started this thread with streamers criticizing SJW movies. Disparu's oldest non-gaming video is only 2-3 years back. Other, more established streams really only have 5 years of history in quantity. Going back to 2009 entirely misses the point. That includes the period before the SJW woke mob destroyed Disney, including Marvel, movies. The good films out weighed the weak ones in MCU Phases 1&2.

    Why do you defend Disney's horrible results last year, 2023? (1)


    Nolte: Disney on Track to Lose Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops

     

    The Disney Grooming Institute had the worst box office year imaginable in 2023. Couldn’t happen to a nicer den of thieves of children’s innocence.

    After losing $106 million on Lightyear (2022) and another $152 million on Strange World (2022) — both of which featured prominent gay plotlines aimed at little kids — the Disney Grooming Syndicate roared into 2023, hoping for a much better year. But…

    Thanks to Disney’s cratered reputation and string of terrible movies where good storytelling and relatable characters took a backseat to divisive politics, 2023 was an even bigger disaster.

    According to my imperfect but good-faith estimates, only one Disney movie went into the black.
    ...
    But let’s be real here… When you release three Marvel movies, an Indiana Jones movie, a Pixar movie, and a 100th-anniversary animated movie (Wish), you’re not supposed to lose $745.5 million. You’re supposed to net $745.5 million.

    You only lose $745.5 million when you’ve lost the goodwill of your core audience (decent parents), and your movies stink because you put identity over storytelling and token characters over relatable characters.

    Finally, there are the incalculable down-market losses: toy sales, theme park attractions, and above all, reputation. Going into 2023, Disney already had a reputation as a danger to small children. After this disastrous year, Disney has a reputation for being a danger to kids and making lousy movies.
     
    The one movie that did not lose money was the finale pic, Guardians of the Galaxy 3. With James Gunn's departure, there will not be a #4.

    Your girl boss movies don't make money. Your race baiting movies don't make money. Your other woke concepts don't make money. They lost in 2022. They lost in 2023. And, it is not hard to predict more losses in 2024.

    You keep insisting that diversity is great. But your Disney is hemorrhaging money pushing your woke SJW agenda. Over $750 million last year alone. Your woke Warner Brothers/DC is also failing. WB could wind up in bankruptcy this year.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Going back to 2009 entirely misses the point. That includes the period before the SJW woke mob destroyed Disney, including Marvel, movies.

    That’s your opinion. I think 90% of Marvel movies are garbage.

    You seem to not like how some of them have female or minority characters.

    Well they have been making successful minori-team movies since Xmen. Those movies were huge sellers and there were plenty of White men willing to pay full price for men in spandex.

    Avengers had a multi-racial cast. Wakanda 1 was a hit.

    I think they are all shit movies and race/liberal agenda has nothing to do with it.

    What exactly is the woke part? Not having enough White guys as fictional characters designed for children?

    Your girl boss movies don’t make money.

    My girl boss movies? I don’t watch any of this stuff. You seem to take all of this personally.

    Disney made 7 billion in a single quarter last year:
    https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DIS/disney/gross-profit

    You call that bleeding?

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson



    Why do you defend Disney’s horrible results last year, 2023? (1)

    Nolte: Disney on Track to Lose Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops
     
    Disney made 7 billion in a single quarter last year:
     
    How much of that gross came from losing money on films?

    Everyone notices that you failed in your attempt to distract from... Losing Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops.

    You really need to stop taking this so personally. You flee the discussion and hide behind unrelated statistics. Your woke films are losing money.

    Why is it so hard for you to admit that your SJW movies are failing to recoup their production & marketing expenses at the box office?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    The point is that the Holly movies and the culture in general have declined. I don't think anyone disputes that, it was often junk before and it got worse. They are riding on de facto monopolies that won't last forever. Same with the Western media - that's why they have become so frantic about any outside competition. The woke and gender nonsense are only among the tools to keep it as a closed shop.


    Wakanda 1 was a hit.
     
    Because it was great. It had many layers - but it was really about showing an African version of the endless white "Wakandas" movies of the past. Or do you actually think that the Anglo "Wakandas" celebrating everything from the world conquest to "winning the WW2 in Normandy" were any less Wakandish? Even a great movie like Casablanca is a silly "Wakanda" story about a loser New York drunk fighting the "Nazis"...and winning!!!

    It has been 'Wakanda' most of the time, Rocky XXX, westerns, the Marvel-Superman nonsense were all Wakanda movies made to celebrate a particular group with fake unreal stories...That's what Hollywood does, why not throw in a few Africans?

    Replies: @silviosilver

  230. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    No.

    Sailerville cannot grok the reality of Shoei Otani. He is the poster boy hero for trauma recovery in 2024.

    https://media.gq.com/photos/61d8a03be93c95dc9bbfbda5/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/shohei-ohtani-gq-sports-feburary-2022-Cover.jpg

    The video could use more polished editing for conciseness but the data in there is gold. They left out the part where he sleeps twelve hours a day; seems to be the only important part omitted.

    Replies: @S

    If it weren’t for the ‘GQ’ logo, I might of mistaken that for a Wheaties ‘Breakfast of Champions’ cereal box! 😀

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/w80AAOSwi1dgBDjh/s-l1600.jpg

    A Kardashian with real world accomplishments.

  231. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Going back to 2009 entirely misses the point. That includes the period before the SJW woke mob destroyed Disney, including Marvel, movies.

    That's your opinion. I think 90% of Marvel movies are garbage.

    You seem to not like how some of them have female or minority characters.

    Well they have been making successful minori-team movies since Xmen. Those movies were huge sellers and there were plenty of White men willing to pay full price for men in spandex.

    Avengers had a multi-racial cast. Wakanda 1 was a hit.

    I think they are all shit movies and race/liberal agenda has nothing to do with it.

    What exactly is the woke part? Not having enough White guys as fictional characters designed for children?

    Your girl boss movies don’t make money.

    My girl boss movies? I don't watch any of this stuff. You seem to take all of this personally.

    Disney made 7 billion in a single quarter last year:
    https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DIS/disney/gross-profit

    You call that bleeding?

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

    Why do you defend Disney’s horrible results last year, 2023? (1)

    Nolte: Disney on Track to Lose Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops

    Disney made 7 billion in a single quarter last year:

    How much of that gross came from losing money on films?

    Everyone notices that you failed in your attempt to distract from… Losing Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops.

    You really need to stop taking this so personally. You flee the discussion and hide behind unrelated statistics. Your woke films are losing money.

    Why is it so hard for you to admit that your SJW movies are failing to recoup their production & marketing expenses at the box office?

    PEACE 😇

    • LOL: QCIC
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Do you just make stuff up?

    That awful ant movie you said was a flop made a $200 million profit:
    https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ant-Man-and-the-Wasp-Quantumania-(2023)#tab=summary


    How much of that gross came from losing money on films?

    I thought you were the expert on Disney's business model? Can you not Google that on your own?

    Disney was #2 at the national box office in 2023 thanks to ant man:

    https://variety.com/2023/film/news/disney-box-office-billion-dollar-mark-avatar-2-1235528694/

    So their top movie in America was a shitty comic book movie that you called a flop.

    ‘Avatar: The Way of Water,’ ‘Ant-Man 3’ Boost Disney to $1 Billion at Global Box Office in 2023
    https://comicbook.com/movies/news/2023-domestic-box-office-9-billion-universal-disney-marvel-warner-bros-dc/

    The opposite of what you have been saying.

    Oh but I'm sure White men didn't go and instead listened to a podcast about how Disney sucks. Must have been someone else. Must have been transgendered Black women that paid full price for that garbage movie. I barely made it through the trailer.

    As with Putin you're unable to process the reality in front of you and just make up stuff that sounds good. You don't like the current Disney movies and just decided that they must be losing money without even bothering to check. Well they are making a profit and that shitty ant man movie was a hit in America. I guess I didn't imagine seeing White men go to everyone one of those stupid movies.

    It's White men that go to comic cons and then listen to podcasts about how Disney movies suck. But someone else is paying to see fucking ANT MAN. Yea I'm sure.

    Look at this complete garbage:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WfTEZJnv_8

    I'd rather just listen to Beckow rant for two hours.

    Replies: @A123

  232. @AP
    @Derer

    Derer is too dumb to be able to read.

    I said that American Hispanics beat Slovaks in life expectancy and child educational achievement. I didn’t say they were cleaner, or thinner.

    LA became a lot safer with the Mexican influx. The filth seems to be driven by junkies and homeless though - policies of white liberals.

    And Texas is full of Mexicans. If Californians wee fleeing the Mexicans they would be going somewhere other than Texas. Looks like basic reasoning is as difficult for you as is reading.

    Replies: @Beckow

    You try to deceive by silly inaccurate numbers. Here are the latest life expectancies:

    USA 77
    USA white 77.4
    US Hispanic 77.9
    Slovakia 78.14
    Czechia 80

    You are clearly lagging. And Hispanics outlive the whites because they have much younger average age – life expectancy goes up with time, so if you have a younger population the projected expectancy will be higher. Are you too stupid to know that?

    LA is a basically a dysfunctional sh..hole and the white libs love Hispanics (maybe even “Lusitanians”). Period. Our kids are healthier, smarter, better looking, taller, much higher achieving. You can hide in your Anglo “Pissa” tests (who cares?), but they reflect nothing about the real life.

    Go to LA and then go to Prague or Bratislava and tell us which society has higher overall IQ, better people, more pleasant life. It only reflects on your own poor reasoning skills that you defend the taco bottom-feeding culture. Sure, one can learn how to live with them – they are certainly better than the libtards – but it is a step down.

    By the way, Ukraine has a 72 year average life expectancy. What is that all about?

    Regarding the pictures, there are nice ladies in every group, you can go to a Papua tribe and find one or two jungle beauties. That’s the way it works, the missionaries were not all idiots…:)

    (But, seriously, I am still getting over you sticking some elderly Latin dude’s picture with a mustache in there…ok, I know even the pope now, sure, but could you not?)

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Here are the latest life expectancies:

     

    Wrong as usual. No wonder you didn’t post the link.

    https://www.thenationshealth.org/content/53/10/1.2

    “In 2022, life expectancy for Hispanic people was 80 years”

    Article is from 2024, it’s the latest number.

    That is higher than any year for Slovakia.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/rou/slovakia/life-expectancy

    And Hispanics outlive the whites because they have much younger average age
     
    Life expectancy stats are calculated from birth. So it is the life expectancy of Hispanics who were born in 2022. You are too ignorant to know that? Yet another of your failures, like your claim that Brazilians are “Hispanics.” Poor Slovak education system. You don’t know life expectancy is calculated. You don’t know that 80 is more than 78.14. You think Brazilians are Hispanics. Etc.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2023/20231129.htm

    From 2021 to 2022, life expectancy at birth in the U.S. increased by 1.1 years (from 76.4 to 77.5)

    The Hispanic population had the second biggest increase in life expectancy in 2022 with a gain of 2.2 years (77.8 to 80.0)

    Go to LA and then go to Prague or Bratislava

     

    The former Hapsburg lands are indeed better, despite the fact that your people are dumber and live less (not Czechs, Slovaks). It’s the legacy you deny in your lack of gratitude.

    Our kids are healthier, smarter, better looking, taller, much higher achieving
     
    They aren’t expected to live as long (see above) and they perform worse on educational tests (PISA) so they aren’t smarter. They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.

    Overall just more desperate sour grapes because you weren’t good enough to succeed in the USA and had to return.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LT1488

    , @Derer
    @Beckow

    You are responding to a psychopath that is damaged beyond repair. The condition created by his alcoholic mother.

  233. @A123
    @songbird


    Well, DIE is a zero-sum game.

    A lot of these properties are designed to appeal specifically to nostalgia, so, even in Normies, they trigger some noticing about race.
     

    Inserting things here and there without breaking the core story elements worked. Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.

    Then the crazies were elevated to be in charge. Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they "do not attract the male gaze" has been a failure. Especially when they insist on stripping male characters of their shirts as much as possible. The double standard is now so bad it pulls even normies out of the film.
    ___

    They are pushing the woke gay feminist DIE agendas in a way that interferes with the story telling.

    The "hero's journey" story starts with a weak protagonist that has a character arc through the story. In the comic book genre, if they have powers at the beginning they cannot control them or do not know how best to use them. The idea is universal and could work with either male or female protagonist.

    The "girl boss" story starts with a powerful female character that is immediately maximum effective at whatever she does. The attempted tale has nothing to do with her growth and change. Instead it is about the world accepting her for what she is. Audiences do not accept this type of protagonist, because they are often grating and smug.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.

    In other words, I think you are saying they had similarly perceived testosterone levels, unlike what they did with Jimmy Olson, or some of the female characters.

    Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they “do not attract the male gaze” has been a failure.

    Possibly could have been some wardrobe design failure.

    Worse when they cast uggos, IMO.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird



    Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.
     
    In other words, I think you are saying they had similarly perceived testosterone levels, unlike what they did with Jimmy Olson, or some of the female characters.
     
    Yes. Samuel Jackson portrayed the Nick Fury character as a tough guy, which was true to the spirit of the original source material.

    Other swaps have broken the underlying characters.



    Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they “do not attract the male gaze” has been a failure.
     
    Possibly could have been some wardrobe design failure.
     
    If one actress had bad garb it could be a wardrobe failure. In The Marvels all three stars had outfits that minimized natural curves in favour of much more unattractive blocky/butch body shapes. It was part of the blatantly woke message that kept men from paying for tickets.

    Worse when they cast uggos, IMO.
     
    I agree. Barbie was originally going to cast a comedian, IIRC Amy Schumer. Margo Robbie joined the project late, capturing the nostalgia of the doll. Even female ticket buyers want to see appealing on screen presence. Making women non-feminine is an inevitable SJW fail.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  234. @S
    It’s been commented on before how the ‘New Rome’ (ie the United States) since it’s very founding has in many instances uncannily paralleled ancient Rome in it’s history. Indeed, the United States since the time of it's creation, has consciously wished to emulate the Roman republic. This Yemen action of late might be another example, though we’ll have to see what transpires.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Romans_in_Arabia

    Shortly after the Roman Republic had transitioned to a dictatorship under Caesar Augustus, this same emperor in 26BC, in an ancient version of 'gunboat diplomacy', directed a land and seaborne operation with ten thousand troops under the command of Aelius Gallus against the Kingdom of Saba in present day Yemen. The goal was to either intimidate the Sabaens into becoming either a vassal of Rome, or, if not that, to outright conquer them. This was part of an effort by Rome to further secure the route of it's rich seaborne trade with India which had developed since it's conquest of Egypt in the decades prior.

    Not impressed with Rome's army and navy being parked just outside it's borders and ports, the Sabaeans told the Romans to get lost in regards to the proposal of becoming a Roman client state.

    Rome's navy then took and temporarily occupied the present day port city of Aden, while Rome's army marched inland and laid seige to the Sabaen's capitol city of Marib. The Sabaens stood firm, however, and the siege failed after about a week, partly thought due to the unexpectedly hostile desert weather conditions the Romans were facing. In generally what is seen as having overall been a disaster, the Roman army and navy soon gave up on the Sabaen enterprise and returned back to Egypt.

    Replies: @sudden death

    Considering that after this failed expedition Roman empire still had about roughly several centuries of relatively good peak life, comparison might be vieved as favourable regarding USA oncoming future;)

    • Replies: @songbird
    @sudden death

    Romans also maintained a base nearby for quite a while:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farasan_Islands

    Though, personally, I would like the US to get out of the ME.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    , @S
    @sudden death

    That's true. The failed Roman Yemen expedition of 2000 years ago wasn't the end of everything for them. [I hadn't been aware of this Roman expedition until recently, and I sometimes find myself a little surprised at just how far flung their activities could be.]

  235. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Going back to 2009 entirely misses the point. That includes the period before the SJW woke mob destroyed Disney, including Marvel, movies.

    That's your opinion. I think 90% of Marvel movies are garbage.

    You seem to not like how some of them have female or minority characters.

    Well they have been making successful minori-team movies since Xmen. Those movies were huge sellers and there were plenty of White men willing to pay full price for men in spandex.

    Avengers had a multi-racial cast. Wakanda 1 was a hit.

    I think they are all shit movies and race/liberal agenda has nothing to do with it.

    What exactly is the woke part? Not having enough White guys as fictional characters designed for children?

    Your girl boss movies don’t make money.

    My girl boss movies? I don't watch any of this stuff. You seem to take all of this personally.

    Disney made 7 billion in a single quarter last year:
    https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DIS/disney/gross-profit

    You call that bleeding?

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

    The point is that the Holly movies and the culture in general have declined. I don’t think anyone disputes that, it was often junk before and it got worse. They are riding on de facto monopolies that won’t last forever. Same with the Western media – that’s why they have become so frantic about any outside competition. The woke and gender nonsense are only among the tools to keep it as a closed shop.

    Wakanda 1 was a hit.

    Because it was great. It had many layers – but it was really about showing an African version of the endless white “Wakandas” movies of the past. Or do you actually think that the Anglo “Wakandas” celebrating everything from the world conquest to “winning the WW2 in Normandy” were any less Wakandish? Even a great movie like Casablanca is a silly “Wakanda” story about a loser New York drunk fighting the “Nazis”…and winning!!!

    It has been ‘Wakanda’ most of the time, Rocky XXX, westerns, the Marvel-Superman nonsense were all Wakanda movies made to celebrate a particular group with fake unreal stories…That’s what Hollywood does, why not throw in a few Africans?

    • Agree: Sher Singh
    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Beckow


    It had many layers – but it was really about showing an African version of the endless white “Wakandas” movies of the past. Or do you actually think that the Anglo “Wakandas” celebrating everything from the world conquest to “winning the WW2 in Normandy” were any less Wakandish?
     
    Obviously they were less Wakandish. Wakanda was created solely to boost black cultural self-esteem (in the vain hope it'll improve black life outcomes). Celebratory depictions of American achievements are at least based on something real. But the insinuation that Americans have failed to be self-critical is so self-evidently idiotic (if they haven't been, then no one has) that only an envy-ridden commie worm would make it.

    Even a great movie like Casablanca is a silly “Wakanda” story about a loser New York drunk fighting the “Nazis”…and winning!!!
     
    Lol, of all the examples you could have chosen, it's telling you settle on this one. Yeah we get it, you're deeply offended by any reference to westerners fighting the Nazis. Bow down and worship the Soviets is the only choice you offer people.

    Well, who knows, with Russians behaving the way they are, maybe westerners will start celebrating their role in WW2 not only as fighting the Nazis but saving the Europe from the commies (aka Russians). A historical distortion? Only slightly, and one I would happily ignore.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

  236. @sudden death
    @S

    Considering that after this failed expedition Roman empire still had about roughly several centuries of relatively good peak life, comparison might be vieved as favourable regarding USA oncoming future;)

    Replies: @songbird, @S

    Romans also maintained a base nearby for quite a while:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farasan_Islands

    Though, personally, I would like the US to get out of the ME.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    They got everywhere.

    Replies: @songbird, @S

  237. @songbird
    @A123


    Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.
     
    In other words, I think you are saying they had similarly perceived testosterone levels, unlike what they did with Jimmy Olson, or some of the female characters.

    Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they “do not attract the male gaze” has been a failure.
     
    Possibly could have been some wardrobe design failure.

    Worse when they cast uggos, IMO.

    Replies: @A123

    Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.

    In other words, I think you are saying they had similarly perceived testosterone levels, unlike what they did with Jimmy Olson, or some of the female characters.

    Yes. Samuel Jackson portrayed the Nick Fury character as a tough guy, which was true to the spirit of the original source material.

    Other swaps have broken the underlying characters.

    Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they “do not attract the male gaze” has been a failure.

    Possibly could have been some wardrobe design failure.

    If one actress had bad garb it could be a wardrobe failure. In The Marvels all three stars had outfits that minimized natural curves in favour of much more unattractive blocky/butch body shapes. It was part of the blatantly woke message that kept men from paying for tickets.

    Worse when they cast uggos, IMO.

    I agree. Barbie was originally going to cast a comedian, IIRC Amy Schumer. Margo Robbie joined the project late, capturing the nostalgia of the doll. Even female ticket buyers want to see appealing on screen presence. Making women non-feminine is an inevitable SJW fail.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    I agree. Barbie was originally going to cast a comedian, IIRC Amy Schumer. Margo Robbie joined the project late, capturing the nostalgia of the doll. Even female ticket buyers want to see appealing on screen presence. Making women non-feminine is an inevitable SJW fail.

    I wish that awful movie had Amy Schumer. Would have been way better with her farting and jokes about getting her fat ass into Barbie pants. In one part she pretty much pauses her own movie to rant about men. Seriously.


    Barbie is an incoherent mess with a heavy dose of SJW messaging. The "Blame men" rant with a literal voiceover from the writer was unreal.

    The liberal that made the movie couldn't decide if she wanted it to be a criticism of the Barbie ideal or if Barbie should be her own feminist ideal.
    I can't think of another movie where the script feels like the writer had a change of mind every 10 minutes. Then towards the end she turns it into a musical where the Kens dance for the female audience. What the flying fuck? The script of Barbie ironically feels like the random musings of an impulsive and mentally unstable woman. Definitely not the feminist ideal.

    The other irony is that Ryan Gosling was the best actor and really shined after the "Bad Man" turn. He had some pretty funny lines while Robbie understandably seemed confused by the script and doesn't feel out a consistent character. Her comedy wasn't utilized and the mom/daughter duo were awful.

    I told my wife I would watch it with her and boy was that a mistake. It's terrible.

  238. Sher Singh says:
    @Yevardian
    @Sher Singh

    Reminds the British diplomatic experience with Mohamad Shah Qajar, who unusually had humanitarian inclinations, possibly stemming from his (disapproved of) Sufi influences in his upbringing. But despite his sincere attempts to end judicial torture and even the persecution of Babi heretics, when the British appealed to him to shut down the slave trade, he was unmoved and replied he was interested in the rights of full humans.

    The British forced the end of maritime slave trade in the Persian Gulf anyway, but I think it wasn't until the constitutional revolution of 1905 that negro slavery was officially abolished within Iran.

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    Same opinion tbh – Indians past Panjab & Africans aren’t human.
    Arabs are heavily negrified too – Levantine girls are (Y) tho.

    What’s interesting is Guru Sahib stated he’ll turn his back on the Khalsa when they adopt Bipran Ki Reet.

    This basically means the same Zoro-Vedic purity culture around avoiding meat/alcohol.

    https://www.manglacharan.com/post/conduct-of-the-khalsa

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/guru-gobind-on-21568389?l=it

  239. @songbird
    In 1923, The London Morning Post, commenting on a speech the future King Edward made, said this:

    If the United States abolished its diplomatic and consular services, kept its ships in harbors and its tourists at home, and retired from the world’s markets, its citizens, its problems, its towns and countrysides, its roads, motor cars, counting houses and saloons would still be familiar in the utmost corners of the world.
    The film is to America what the flag was once to Britain. By its means, Uncle Sam may hope some day, if he be not checked in time, to Americanize this world.
     

    Replies: @songbird, @S

    The film is to America what the flag was once to Britain. By its means, Uncle Sam may hope some day, if he be not checked in time, to Americanize this world.

    That’s a prescient and insightful comment made in 1923 by the future King Edward.

    However, in regards to the US/UK, it’s always good to remind one’s self now and again that due to the ‘special relationship’ formed circa 1900, the US and UK since that time have effectively been back together about the same number of years now as (due to the revolution) they had been officially and formally apart (ie 1776-1900), that they sometimes play good cop/bad cop towards the world, and that one cannot always be certain where the current real center of power of the US/UK geo-political ship is, ie is it New York, or, is it London?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @S

    These days, I have a hard time believing the UK isn't led by petty crooks only interested in maximizing rents and real estate developments.

    But I suppose it's the same class over here, and they are in lockstep.

    Replies: @S, @Coconuts

  240. @sudden death
    @S

    Considering that after this failed expedition Roman empire still had about roughly several centuries of relatively good peak life, comparison might be vieved as favourable regarding USA oncoming future;)

    Replies: @songbird, @S

    That’s true. The failed Roman Yemen expedition of 2000 years ago wasn’t the end of everything for them. [I hadn’t been aware of this Roman expedition until recently, and I sometimes find myself a little surprised at just how far flung their activities could be.]

  241. @Beckow
    @AP

    You try to deceive by silly inaccurate numbers. Here are the latest life expectancies:

    USA 77
    USA white 77.4
    US Hispanic 77.9
    Slovakia 78.14
    Czechia 80

    You are clearly lagging. And Hispanics outlive the whites because they have much younger average age - life expectancy goes up with time, so if you have a younger population the projected expectancy will be higher. Are you too stupid to know that?

    LA is a basically a dysfunctional sh..hole and the white libs love Hispanics (maybe even "Lusitanians"). Period. Our kids are healthier, smarter, better looking, taller, much higher achieving. You can hide in your Anglo "Pissa" tests (who cares?), but they reflect nothing about the real life.

    Go to LA and then go to Prague or Bratislava and tell us which society has higher overall IQ, better people, more pleasant life. It only reflects on your own poor reasoning skills that you defend the taco bottom-feeding culture. Sure, one can learn how to live with them - they are certainly better than the libtards - but it is a step down.

    By the way, Ukraine has a 72 year average life expectancy. What is that all about?

    Regarding the pictures, there are nice ladies in every group, you can go to a Papua tribe and find one or two jungle beauties. That's the way it works, the missionaries were not all idiots...:)

    (But, seriously, I am still getting over you sticking some elderly Latin dude's picture with a mustache in there...ok, I know even the pope now, sure, but could you not?)

    Replies: @AP, @Derer

    Here are the latest life expectancies:

    Wrong as usual. No wonder you didn’t post the link.

    https://www.thenationshealth.org/content/53/10/1.2

    “In 2022, life expectancy for Hispanic people was 80 years”

    Article is from 2024, it’s the latest number.

    That is higher than any year for Slovakia.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/rou/slovakia/life-expectancy

    And Hispanics outlive the whites because they have much younger average age

    Life expectancy stats are calculated from birth. So it is the life expectancy of Hispanics who were born in 2022. You are too ignorant to know that? Yet another of your failures, like your claim that Brazilians are “Hispanics.” Poor Slovak education system. You don’t know life expectancy is calculated. You don’t know that 80 is more than 78.14. You think Brazilians are Hispanics. Etc.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2023/20231129.htm

    From 2021 to 2022, life expectancy at birth in the U.S. increased by 1.1 years (from 76.4 to 77.5)

    The Hispanic population had the second biggest increase in life expectancy in 2022 with a gain of 2.2 years (77.8 to 80.0)

    Go to LA and then go to Prague or Bratislava

    The former Hapsburg lands are indeed better, despite the fact that your people are dumber and live less (not Czechs, Slovaks). It’s the legacy you deny in your lack of gratitude.

    Our kids are healthier, smarter, better looking, taller, much higher achieving

    They aren’t expected to live as long (see above) and they perform worse on educational tests (PISA) so they aren’t smarter. They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.

    Overall just more desperate sour grapes because you weren’t good enough to succeed in the USA and had to return.

    • LOL: LT1488
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Here is the link:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/260410/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-us-by-race-hispanic-origin-and-sex/

    You don't understand statistics, "at-birth" is based on the data for people already alive and only in US (obviously) so having a lower average age will project lower. Hispo-latifundians taco-munchers - your new neighbors - are a very young population in the US, projecting from that is not as accurate as for the whites and blacks - large percentage are recent arrivals so there is no data included how long their compatriots live in Latin America, and there is the selection bias in who comes. But I suspect you are too stupid to understand any of that.

    I personally can't tell much of a difference between Spaniards and Portuguese, you are an obsessive loser arguing about it. Are Galicians from NW Spain Hispanic? Their language is a dialect of Portuguese. Fidel Castro was a Galician, was he a Hispanic? Enlighten us. (Take those pills, your autism is seeping back in.)


    They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.
     
    ...and smarter, healthier, living much better, we have actual walkable cities and infrastructure that works...I could go on. Suffice to say, any Hispo-American who gets lost here is begging to be allowed to stay - they don't want to go back to the barrios, working with no breaks, getting fat on the WalMart food and staring at the boob-box packed with ads for "life-saving" drugs. But if that is your thing who am I to argue.

    weren’t good enough to succeed in the USA
     
    What? You know nothing about me and so write nonsense. It only shows your sad stupidity and a lack of class. But you are a Ukie-Pole admirer of the inbred Habs, what would one expect?

    And that 'Latin' dude's picture was uncalled for, get a hold of yourself...:)

    Replies: @AP

    , @LT1488
    @AP

    Notice how you ignored Mr Beckow's comments on Ukraine LOL

  242. @A123
    @John Johnson



    Why do you defend Disney’s horrible results last year, 2023? (1)

    Nolte: Disney on Track to Lose Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops
     
    Disney made 7 billion in a single quarter last year:
     
    How much of that gross came from losing money on films?

    Everyone notices that you failed in your attempt to distract from... Losing Nearly $750 Million Across 13 Films in Historic Year of Box-Office Flops.

    You really need to stop taking this so personally. You flee the discussion and hide behind unrelated statistics. Your woke films are losing money.

    Why is it so hard for you to admit that your SJW movies are failing to recoup their production & marketing expenses at the box office?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Do you just make stuff up?

    That awful ant movie you said was a flop made a $200 million profit:
    https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ant-Man-and-the-Wasp-Quantumania-(2023)#tab=summary

    How much of that gross came from losing money on films?

    I thought you were the expert on Disney’s business model? Can you not Google that on your own?

    Disney was #2 at the national box office in 2023 thanks to ant man:

    https://variety.com/2023/film/news/disney-box-office-billion-dollar-mark-avatar-2-1235528694/

    So their top movie in America was a shitty comic book movie that you called a flop.

    ‘Avatar: The Way of Water,’ ‘Ant-Man 3’ Boost Disney to $1 Billion at Global Box Office in 2023
    https://comicbook.com/movies/news/2023-domestic-box-office-9-billion-universal-disney-marvel-warner-bros-dc/

    The opposite of what you have been saying.

    Oh but I’m sure White men didn’t go and instead listened to a podcast about how Disney sucks. Must have been someone else. Must have been transgendered Black women that paid full price for that garbage movie. I barely made it through the trailer.

    As with Putin you’re unable to process the reality in front of you and just make up stuff that sounds good. You don’t like the current Disney movies and just decided that they must be losing money without even bothering to check. Well they are making a profit and that shitty ant man movie was a hit in America. I guess I didn’t imagine seeing White men go to everyone one of those stupid movies.

    It’s White men that go to comic cons and then listen to podcasts about how Disney movies suck. But someone else is paying to see fucking ANT MAN. Yea I’m sure.

    Look at this complete garbage:

    I’d rather just listen to Beckow rant for two hours.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    LOL -- Apparently you not understand the movie industry. Let me bring you up to speed.

    The revenue is the box office less the theatre chain cut, taxes, and misc. fees.. Roughly 50% makes it back to the studio.

    The expense is production cost + marketing. And, the studios are know to under report production expense.

    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Global Gross: $476 million
    Studio share (~50%) $238 million

    Production Budget: $200-225 million
    Marketing: $50-100 million

    The movie lost $12 million "best case" and up to $87 million "worst case". $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel's books. The source I provided earlier puts it at a loss of $37 million in their model (1). And, it could be much worse if Marvel is not disclosing the entire filming expense.

    For example, the admitted production budget for The Marvels is only $275 million. However, public filings in the UK suggest that the actual is $325-350 million even after credits are applied. Without assistance it would have been over $400 million.
    ___

    Disney did not make Avatar. They only distributed it. Thank you for making my case about recent Disney movies being terrible. Your admission that Disney Corporation is being propped up by the creative work of others is really helpful to my core argument -- the dismal nature of Marvel films.
    ____

    You must be deeply emotionally attached to these Marvel films to be such a passionate defender of them.

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out recently is terrible and lost money. Why do you find it so hard to agree with my fairly non-controversial position?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    Replies: @John Johnson

  243. @AP
    @Beckow


    Here are the latest life expectancies:

     

    Wrong as usual. No wonder you didn’t post the link.

    https://www.thenationshealth.org/content/53/10/1.2

    “In 2022, life expectancy for Hispanic people was 80 years”

    Article is from 2024, it’s the latest number.

    That is higher than any year for Slovakia.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/rou/slovakia/life-expectancy

    And Hispanics outlive the whites because they have much younger average age
     
    Life expectancy stats are calculated from birth. So it is the life expectancy of Hispanics who were born in 2022. You are too ignorant to know that? Yet another of your failures, like your claim that Brazilians are “Hispanics.” Poor Slovak education system. You don’t know life expectancy is calculated. You don’t know that 80 is more than 78.14. You think Brazilians are Hispanics. Etc.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2023/20231129.htm

    From 2021 to 2022, life expectancy at birth in the U.S. increased by 1.1 years (from 76.4 to 77.5)

    The Hispanic population had the second biggest increase in life expectancy in 2022 with a gain of 2.2 years (77.8 to 80.0)

    Go to LA and then go to Prague or Bratislava

     

    The former Hapsburg lands are indeed better, despite the fact that your people are dumber and live less (not Czechs, Slovaks). It’s the legacy you deny in your lack of gratitude.

    Our kids are healthier, smarter, better looking, taller, much higher achieving
     
    They aren’t expected to live as long (see above) and they perform worse on educational tests (PISA) so they aren’t smarter. They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.

    Overall just more desperate sour grapes because you weren’t good enough to succeed in the USA and had to return.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LT1488

    Here is the link:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/260410/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-us-by-race-hispanic-origin-and-sex/

    You don’t understand statistics, “at-birth” is based on the data for people already alive and only in US (obviously) so having a lower average age will project lower. Hispo-latifundians taco-munchers – your new neighbors – are a very young population in the US, projecting from that is not as accurate as for the whites and blacks – large percentage are recent arrivals so there is no data included how long their compatriots live in Latin America, and there is the selection bias in who comes. But I suspect you are too stupid to understand any of that.

    I personally can’t tell much of a difference between Spaniards and Portuguese, you are an obsessive loser arguing about it. Are Galicians from NW Spain Hispanic? Their language is a dialect of Portuguese. Fidel Castro was a Galician, was he a Hispanic? Enlighten us. (Take those pills, your autism is seeping back in.)

    They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.

    …and smarter, healthier, living much better, we have actual walkable cities and infrastructure that works…I could go on. Suffice to say, any Hispo-American who gets lost here is begging to be allowed to stay – they don’t want to go back to the barrios, working with no breaks, getting fat on the WalMart food and staring at the boob-box packed with ads for “life-saving” drugs. But if that is your thing who am I to argue.

    weren’t good enough to succeed in the USA

    What? You know nothing about me and so write nonsense. It only shows your sad stupidity and a lack of class. But you are a Ukie-Pole admirer of the inbred Habs, what would one expect?

    And that ‘Latin’ dude’s picture was uncalled for, get a hold of yourself…:)

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Here is the link:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/260410/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-us-by-race-hispanic-origin-and-sex/
     

    That was for 2020. The link says it. You tried to use 2020 data for Hispanics to compare to a more recent year for Slovaks.

    You are too dumb to know that 2020 came before 2022?

    In both 2020 and 2022 American Hispanics lived longer than Slovaks.


    You don’t understand statistics, “at-birth” is based on the data for people already alive
     
    No it’s an estimate for people born that year.

    https://data.oecd.org/healthstat/life-expectancy-at-birth.htm#:~:text=Life%20expectancy%20at%20birth%20is,death%20rates%20do%20not%20change.

    “Life expectancy at birth is defined as how long, on average, a newborn can expect to live, if current death rates do not change.”

    Poor uneducated Beckow! You don’t even know what life expectancy means, yet you argue about it.

    You can’t help it, given where you were educated.


    I personally can’t tell much of a difference between Spaniards and Portuguese, you are an obsessive loser arguing
     
    You are the one who chose to argue about it. I mentioned that Brazil doesn’t have Hispanics and you replied “??? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics…don’t go nuts on us again”

    I just pointed out how uneducated you were.


    [Slovaks versus American Hispanics] They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.

    …and smarter, healthier
     

    Well, as we have seen, Slovaks don’t live as long, and their kids perform more poorly on knowledge tests so they aren’t smarter.

    Be happy with taller and prettier.


    we have actual walkable cities
     
    Built under Hapsburgs. In LA they have highways built much later, for a rich population where almost everyone over 16 can afford an automobile. Not my thing, personally, I prefer a balance, but that is what they like.
  244. Even after two years of war Russia still treats Ukie side as humans. Today Ukies showed for the umpteenth time that this is wrong.

    Russia and Ukraine agreed to exchange POWs today. Ukrainian POWs were flown on two planes IL-76MD-90A to Belgorod (remember this name? This was a place of a recent Ukie war crime). One aircraft was carrying 65 Ukrainian POWS, the other 80. The exchange was planned near the village of Kolotilovka on the border. Ukie military knew full well who is being transported and where they were headed. Yet Ukie anti-aircraft detachment launched two rockets from Kharkov region and shot down one of the planes. After that Russia turned the other plane around and returned it to where it took off from. Ukie propaganda first presented shooting down a Russian plane as a great victory, then started hastily removing everything it posted about it. The commanders of Ukie forces acknowledged shooting down this plane but did not mention who they actually murdered.

    Russia is going through the motions calling the UN Security Council meeting concerning yet another Ukie crime. Maybe it makes legal sense, but it does not make any practical sense whatsoever. Ukies clearly demonstrated time and again that they do not deserve to be treated as humans, should be treated as rabid dogs – shot on sight.

    • Agree: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @sudden death
    @AnonfromTN

    Let's for a moment assume this version is somewhat truthful - then it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast, while various poor qcics here have been sweating for several years already when trying to prove that RF isn't massively airbombing Kharkov city only because Kremlin ruling chimpanzee gang is very kindhearted towards UA people, lol

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel, @Gerard1234

  245. @AnonfromTN
    Even after two years of war Russia still treats Ukie side as humans. Today Ukies showed for the umpteenth time that this is wrong.

    Russia and Ukraine agreed to exchange POWs today. Ukrainian POWs were flown on two planes IL-76MD-90A to Belgorod (remember this name? This was a place of a recent Ukie war crime). One aircraft was carrying 65 Ukrainian POWS, the other 80. The exchange was planned near the village of Kolotilovka on the border. Ukie military knew full well who is being transported and where they were headed. Yet Ukie anti-aircraft detachment launched two rockets from Kharkov region and shot down one of the planes. After that Russia turned the other plane around and returned it to where it took off from. Ukie propaganda first presented shooting down a Russian plane as a great victory, then started hastily removing everything it posted about it. The commanders of Ukie forces acknowledged shooting down this plane but did not mention who they actually murdered.

    Russia is going through the motions calling the UN Security Council meeting concerning yet another Ukie crime. Maybe it makes legal sense, but it does not make any practical sense whatsoever. Ukies clearly demonstrated time and again that they do not deserve to be treated as humans, should be treated as rabid dogs – shot on sight.

    Replies: @sudden death

    Let’s for a moment assume this version is somewhat truthful – then it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast, while various poor qcics here have been sweating for several years already when trying to prove that RF isn’t massively airbombing Kharkov city only because Kremlin ruling chimpanzee gang is very kindhearted towards UA people, lol

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @sudden death


    ... it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast
     
    It was a scheduled POW exchange - the Ukie POWs soldiers were going there by mutual agreement, one wouldn't take precautions - these exchanges are based on trust and Kiev agreed to the exchange and knew the details of who, where and when.

    It is akin to an exchange of prisoners on a bridge with one side starting to shoot at their own prisoners to also kill the enemy guards. Simply pathetic. How is it good for anyone, least of all Ukraine? Kiev killed around 60 of their own soldiers going to be exchanged to go home. And they killed a few guards and a pilot. Is that worth it?

    They are either pathologically disorganized or in the depths of evil matching their crazy Bandera worship.

    Replies: @LondonBob, @sudden death

    , @Mikel
    @sudden death


    Let’s for a moment assume this version is somewhat truthful
     
    It is truthful. If you’ve wasted your time reading conspiracy theories stop doing it, you've been lied to. The Ukrainians have acknowledged that it was them and even the BBC has finally given up and acknowledged it too. This morning it was impossible to find out anything about the details of the incident on the BBC (my self-flagellatory first pass at the daily news) without going through endless warnings that “the Russian authorities are well known to lie in these occasions”, “the Ukrainian authorities are urging people not to fall for Russian misinformation”, “we can’t independently confirm the veracity of the Russian claims, “it would be very unusual for the Russians to use such an expensive plane for prisoner transport”, blah-blah-blah….

    What is so painful about admitting that your side has fallen victim to a friendly fire incident? It happens all the time in all wars. The Israelis shot at their own during the October pogrom and later on they killed 3 of their hostages right after they had miraculously escaped from their captors. Of course the Ukrainians are going to deny it for as long as they can. That’s what they always do. If any reader with an IQ above 80 has figured this out, there’s no way the editors at the BBC, the CNN and all the rest of the propagandists don’t know it. Admitting that things probably are what they looked like from the beginning, as they almost always are, does not mean that you’re taking Putin’s side. Idiots.

    But yes, the Russians don't control their airspace, can't guarantee the lives of their people in the border cities, can't make any advances without losing thousands of men in months-long battles and the Ukrainians are also getting bled out. It's time for everybody to stop the carnage, if only to lick their wounds and maybe try again in the future.
    , @Gerard1234
    @sudden death

    Forgetting about the total cretinism of your comment , which is just too idiotic to dissect.......this all does remind me that the 2 shithole fake countries( well, shithole for Litva is harsh, blackhole maybe more suitable for Black Russia) of 404 and Black Russia have their authoritarian , scumbag current iterations of "independence" based on 2 false flag events - the killings at the Maidan.......and of course the Lithuanian Nationalist/western intelligence false flag in Vilnius in 1991 around the television tower where, again, snipers killed many protestors. Both falsely blamed on Russia, identical type of murders, both with farcical "investigations", both the foundation for the 2 freakshow regimes there

    With 404 that's just one in a series of false flags/mass murder events (HIMARS strike on Ukronazi POW's in Elenovka one of them).
    In place of reading intellectual dogshit to massage your scumbag mind.........why don't you read something relevant you idiot - like that book by the Black Russsian (now in prison for 6 years I think, Paletskis) about the false flag in 1991?

  246. @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    If it weren't for the 'GQ' logo, I might of mistaken that for a Wheaties 'Breakfast of Champions' cereal box! :-D

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    A Kardashian with real world accomplishments.

    • LOL: S
  247. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Do you just make stuff up?

    That awful ant movie you said was a flop made a $200 million profit:
    https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Ant-Man-and-the-Wasp-Quantumania-(2023)#tab=summary


    How much of that gross came from losing money on films?

    I thought you were the expert on Disney's business model? Can you not Google that on your own?

    Disney was #2 at the national box office in 2023 thanks to ant man:

    https://variety.com/2023/film/news/disney-box-office-billion-dollar-mark-avatar-2-1235528694/

    So their top movie in America was a shitty comic book movie that you called a flop.

    ‘Avatar: The Way of Water,’ ‘Ant-Man 3’ Boost Disney to $1 Billion at Global Box Office in 2023
    https://comicbook.com/movies/news/2023-domestic-box-office-9-billion-universal-disney-marvel-warner-bros-dc/

    The opposite of what you have been saying.

    Oh but I'm sure White men didn't go and instead listened to a podcast about how Disney sucks. Must have been someone else. Must have been transgendered Black women that paid full price for that garbage movie. I barely made it through the trailer.

    As with Putin you're unable to process the reality in front of you and just make up stuff that sounds good. You don't like the current Disney movies and just decided that they must be losing money without even bothering to check. Well they are making a profit and that shitty ant man movie was a hit in America. I guess I didn't imagine seeing White men go to everyone one of those stupid movies.

    It's White men that go to comic cons and then listen to podcasts about how Disney movies suck. But someone else is paying to see fucking ANT MAN. Yea I'm sure.

    Look at this complete garbage:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WfTEZJnv_8

    I'd rather just listen to Beckow rant for two hours.

    Replies: @A123

    LOL — Apparently you not understand the movie industry. Let me bring you up to speed.

    The revenue is the box office less the theatre chain cut, taxes, and misc. fees.. Roughly 50% makes it back to the studio.

    The expense is production cost + marketing. And, the studios are know to under report production expense.

    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Global Gross: $476 million
    Studio share (~50%) $238 million

    Production Budget: $200-225 million
    Marketing: $50-100 million

    The movie lost $12 million “best case” and up to $87 million “worst case”. $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel’s books. The source I provided earlier puts it at a loss of $37 million in their model (1). And, it could be much worse if Marvel is not disclosing the entire filming expense.

    For example, the admitted production budget for The Marvels is only $275 million. However, public filings in the UK suggest that the actual is $325-350 million even after credits are applied. Without assistance it would have been over $400 million.
    ___

    Disney did not make Avatar. They only distributed it. Thank you for making my case about recent Disney movies being terrible. Your admission that Disney Corporation is being propped up by the creative work of others is really helpful to my core argument — the dismal nature of Marvel films.
    ____

    You must be deeply emotionally attached to these Marvel films to be such a passionate defender of them.

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out recently is terrible and lost money. Why do you find it so hard to agree with my fairly non-controversial position?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    The movie lost $12 million “best case” and up to $87 million “worst case”. $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel’s books.

    You're pulling numbers out of your butt again.

    100 million on marketing? Based on what? Conjecture?

    It cost them 193 million to make the movie
    https://screenrant.com/how-much-ant-man-wasp-quantumania-cost-to-make/

    Prior to the film's release, early projections noted that Quantumania could gross over $100 million domestically and $280 million globally in its opening weekend, though the film went on to gross roughly $120 million over the four-day period - making it the best opening weekend of the MCU's Ant-Man franchise.

    Best opening weekend for that awful franchise.

    And the movie industry hasn't fully recovered from COVID.

    Replies: @A123

  248. @Beckow
    @AP

    Here is the link:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/260410/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-us-by-race-hispanic-origin-and-sex/

    You don't understand statistics, "at-birth" is based on the data for people already alive and only in US (obviously) so having a lower average age will project lower. Hispo-latifundians taco-munchers - your new neighbors - are a very young population in the US, projecting from that is not as accurate as for the whites and blacks - large percentage are recent arrivals so there is no data included how long their compatriots live in Latin America, and there is the selection bias in who comes. But I suspect you are too stupid to understand any of that.

    I personally can't tell much of a difference between Spaniards and Portuguese, you are an obsessive loser arguing about it. Are Galicians from NW Spain Hispanic? Their language is a dialect of Portuguese. Fidel Castro was a Galician, was he a Hispanic? Enlighten us. (Take those pills, your autism is seeping back in.)


    They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.
     
    ...and smarter, healthier, living much better, we have actual walkable cities and infrastructure that works...I could go on. Suffice to say, any Hispo-American who gets lost here is begging to be allowed to stay - they don't want to go back to the barrios, working with no breaks, getting fat on the WalMart food and staring at the boob-box packed with ads for "life-saving" drugs. But if that is your thing who am I to argue.

    weren’t good enough to succeed in the USA
     
    What? You know nothing about me and so write nonsense. It only shows your sad stupidity and a lack of class. But you are a Ukie-Pole admirer of the inbred Habs, what would one expect?

    And that 'Latin' dude's picture was uncalled for, get a hold of yourself...:)

    Replies: @AP

    Here is the link:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/260410/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-us-by-race-hispanic-origin-and-sex/

    That was for 2020. The link says it. You tried to use 2020 data for Hispanics to compare to a more recent year for Slovaks.

    You are too dumb to know that 2020 came before 2022?

    In both 2020 and 2022 American Hispanics lived longer than Slovaks.

    You don’t understand statistics, “at-birth” is based on the data for people already alive

    No it’s an estimate for people born that year.

    https://data.oecd.org/healthstat/life-expectancy-at-birth.htm#:~:text=Life%20expectancy%20at%20birth%20is,death%20rates%20do%20not%20change.

    “Life expectancy at birth is defined as how long, on average, a newborn can expect to live, if current death rates do not change.”

    Poor uneducated Beckow! You don’t even know what life expectancy means, yet you argue about it.

    You can’t help it, given where you were educated.

    I personally can’t tell much of a difference between Spaniards and Portuguese, you are an obsessive loser arguing

    You are the one who chose to argue about it. I mentioned that Brazil doesn’t have Hispanics and you replied “??? Portuguese are Hispanic, their language, culture, genetics…don’t go nuts on us again”

    I just pointed out how uneducated you were.

    [Slovaks versus American Hispanics] They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.

    …and smarter, healthier

    Well, as we have seen, Slovaks don’t live as long, and their kids perform more poorly on knowledge tests so they aren’t smarter.

    Be happy with taller and prettier.

    we have actual walkable cities

    Built under Hapsburgs. In LA they have highways built much later, for a rich population where almost everyone over 16 can afford an automobile. Not my thing, personally, I prefer a balance, but that is what they like.

  249. @sudden death
    @AnonfromTN

    Let's for a moment assume this version is somewhat truthful - then it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast, while various poor qcics here have been sweating for several years already when trying to prove that RF isn't massively airbombing Kharkov city only because Kremlin ruling chimpanzee gang is very kindhearted towards UA people, lol

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel, @Gerard1234

    … it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast

    It was a scheduled POW exchange – the Ukie POWs soldiers were going there by mutual agreement, one wouldn’t take precautions – these exchanges are based on trust and Kiev agreed to the exchange and knew the details of who, where and when.

    It is akin to an exchange of prisoners on a bridge with one side starting to shoot at their own prisoners to also kill the enemy guards. Simply pathetic. How is it good for anyone, least of all Ukraine? Kiev killed around 60 of their own soldiers going to be exchanged to go home. And they killed a few guards and a pilot. Is that worth it?

    They are either pathologically disorganized or in the depths of evil matching their crazy Bandera worship.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Beckow

    Doubt it was actually Ukrainians operating the system that shot it down, Iris T or Patriot supposedly, perhaps German or American crew, so does beg the question why they did it. Of course we still don't know if the Ukrainian crew who shot down MH17 with their BUK did it deliberately, or out of sheer incompetence, I suspect it was deliberate, in that case.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @sudden death
    @Beckow

    The plane was shot and fell down next to Belgorod city airfield, which was not the place of exchange at all, but it still is besides the point that UA can shoot RF planes out of the sky far from the border.

    Just yesterday RF was launching rockets into Kharkov city so tt's quite imaginable that some miscommunication fuck up in UA command chain could have happened if they thought it might be another plane trying to shoot air to surface rockets into Kharkov again, but that is again besides the main point of UA having such tight RF airspace control capability, if we choose to believe RF pushed version this time;)

    Replies: @QCIC

  250. @Beckow
    @sudden death


    ... it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast
     
    It was a scheduled POW exchange - the Ukie POWs soldiers were going there by mutual agreement, one wouldn't take precautions - these exchanges are based on trust and Kiev agreed to the exchange and knew the details of who, where and when.

    It is akin to an exchange of prisoners on a bridge with one side starting to shoot at their own prisoners to also kill the enemy guards. Simply pathetic. How is it good for anyone, least of all Ukraine? Kiev killed around 60 of their own soldiers going to be exchanged to go home. And they killed a few guards and a pilot. Is that worth it?

    They are either pathologically disorganized or in the depths of evil matching their crazy Bandera worship.

    Replies: @LondonBob, @sudden death

    Doubt it was actually Ukrainians operating the system that shot it down, Iris T or Patriot supposedly, perhaps German or American crew, so does beg the question why they did it. Of course we still don’t know if the Ukrainian crew who shot down MH17 with their BUK did it deliberately, or out of sheer incompetence, I suspect it was deliberate, in that case.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @LondonBob


    Doubt it was actually Ukrainians operating the system that shot it down, Iris T or Patriot supposedly, perhaps German or American crew, so does beg the question why they did it.
     
    There are holes on the parts of downed plane from anti-aircraft missile. The investigation will show which system was used. Most likely NATO-supplied, which makes NATO an accomplice of Ukie criminals, even if the crew was Ukie (which I doubt, but no investigation on the Ukie-controlled territory is possible). Like someone did not know that already.
  251. @LT1488
    @AnonfromTN

    With jews, scum and villainy seems to be inherent and genetic however. Every nationality does have its scum and the rest shouldn't be judged for it, however jews are a nationality largely comprised of scum.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Adept

    It’s a product of their supremacist religion.

    Consider this: European (Ashkenazi) Jews and Iraqi Jews have nothing in common from a genetic standpoint. They’re two entirely distinct populations. Yet the Iraqi Jews — like the infamous Sassoon family — are well known for being every bit as villainous as the worst of the Ashkenazis.

    Further, most Arabian Jews are hardly distinct from Arabian Muslims, at least insofar as their genetics are concerned.

    The poison is simply this: A religion which regards their little sect as “Chosen” — as true humans — and everybody else as second-rate or even animals in human form. This breeds a certain type of arrogance and impunity, even in those Jews who do not observe the various rituals their religion calls for.

    Needless to say, the religion has other deeply distasteful characteristics, such as absolute deference to tribal elders and an downright comic focus on legal wrangling with god.

    If the religion is done away with — of course, this is no easy task — then the problem is solved. One simply needs to tell the Jews: “Christ preached to you, more than to those other nations. It’s time to accept him; time to become normal men amongst other normal men, and to love humanity.”

    …They know this, I suspect, which is why they recoil so violently from it.

  252. @Beckow
    @sudden death


    ... it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast
     
    It was a scheduled POW exchange - the Ukie POWs soldiers were going there by mutual agreement, one wouldn't take precautions - these exchanges are based on trust and Kiev agreed to the exchange and knew the details of who, where and when.

    It is akin to an exchange of prisoners on a bridge with one side starting to shoot at their own prisoners to also kill the enemy guards. Simply pathetic. How is it good for anyone, least of all Ukraine? Kiev killed around 60 of their own soldiers going to be exchanged to go home. And they killed a few guards and a pilot. Is that worth it?

    They are either pathologically disorganized or in the depths of evil matching their crazy Bandera worship.

    Replies: @LondonBob, @sudden death

    The plane was shot and fell down next to Belgorod city airfield, which was not the place of exchange at all, but it still is besides the point that UA can shoot RF planes out of the sky far from the border.

    Just yesterday RF was launching rockets into Kharkov city so tt’s quite imaginable that some miscommunication fuck up in UA command chain could have happened if they thought it might be another plane trying to shoot air to surface rockets into Kharkov again, but that is again besides the main point of UA having such tight RF airspace control capability, if we choose to believe RF pushed version this time;)

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @sudden death

    What is the Russian civil aviation keep out zone, in other words, how close to the border can planes legally fly?

    +++

    When I suggest Russia can bomb Kharkov if they need to, I am not implying it is easy, just that it is doable. They have to destroy the remaining high altitude air defenses in the area first and these are being replenished from the West. Nonetheless, the Russians regularly shoot enough missiles across Ukraine to do the job. If these were part of a concentrated attack they could take out the SAM sites within range of Kharkov. Then they could attack with strike aircraft to clean up hidden SAMs. Then there is nothing left to protect against heavy bombing. How far back do the Russians have to clean out the air defenses? Who knows, 100 miles? This is only about 20 miles from the border, so it is reasonable to assume they know where everything is. All aircraft will still be vulnerable to MANPADS below a certain altitude. They do not want to seriously bomb Kharkov or Kiev or they would have done so. Maybe this will change their mind. If NATO is willing to shoot down aircraft over Russia then it may be time for sensible people in the Baltics to move to Mexico.

    Replies: @QCIC

  253. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    I wonder what future AP will see for Russia if Russian liberals will ever come to power there. Would they embrace mass immigration like Western liberals have
     
    Probably not. Even Navalny once referred to people from the Caucuses as cockroaches.

    The template for liberal Eastern Europeans is Czechia. Libertinism, secularism and democracy, but not mass immigration (this is why people who claim liberalizing Poland will be another Ireland, full of non-Europeans, are just wrong. Liberalizing Poland will be more like Czechia).

    That having been said, unlike Czechia (or Poland), Russia does border several fecund Islamic countries and has a large native Muslim population, so increased Muslim population is inevitable.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Even Navalny once referred to people from the Caucuses as cockroaches.

    Yes, and the West subsequently punished him for it:

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2021/05/statement-on-alexei-navalnys-status-as-prisoner-of-conscience/

    Basically, Amnesty International temporarily took away Navalny’s prisoner of conscience status as a result of his past xenophobic and bigoted statements, before re-instating it due to fears that Putin was abusing him.

    Basically, my own logic here is this: Even someone like Navalny might want to appear more “handshake-worthy” in Western eyes by repudiating his past views on these things, and the best way to do that is not merely to make some symbolic gestures but rather to indicate that Russia is wide open for mass immigration. Navalny could portray this experience and change of views as an epiphany of sorts for him.

    The template for liberal Eastern Europeans is Czechia. Libertinism, secularism and democracy, but not mass immigration (this is why people who claim liberalizing Poland will be another Ireland, full of non-Europeans, are just wrong. Liberalizing Poland will be more like Czechia).

    That having been said, unlike Czechia (or Poland), Russia does border several fecund Islamic countries and has a large native Muslim population, so increased Muslim population is inevitable.

    False analogy, because Russia has a long history of ruling over and integrating Muslims, and often rather successfully, whereas Czechia (and Poland/the PLC) does not. Austria-Hungary historically did not have many Muslims other than in Bosnia and Herzegovina, which it only ruled for several decades (mostly as an occupying force) and which was only officially a part of Austria-Hungary for just a single decade. In contrast, Russia ruled over Muslims for many decades and often for much longer. Thus, it’s not unreasonable to hypothesize that Muslims would integrate better in Russia than they would somewhere like Czechia, similar to how it’s not unreasonable to hypothesize that Syrian refugees would integrate better in Turkey (due to them being the descendants of former Ottoman subjects for centuries) than somewhere like Germany (unless perhaps they are cognitive elites or middle-class types). So, it makes sense for Russian liberals to push for mass immigration, including of the Muslim kind, in a way that it does not make sense for, say, Czech or Polish liberals to do so.

    One could wonder whether in the absence of Communism, Muslims would have been for Greater Russia what Latin Americans are for the US. One can indeed even view Kazakhstan (and northern Kyrgyzstan as well) as a mixed Muslim-Slavic space similar to how the US Southwest is a mixed Anglo-Latin American space.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Similar to Austria-Hungary, I don't recall the PLC ever ruling over many Muslims either. Did it? It ruled over a lot of Jews, no doubt, but Muslims?

    , @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russia has a long history of ruling over and integrating Muslims, and often rather successfully, whereas Czechia (and Poland/the PLC) does not
     
    PLC had loyal Lipka Tatars for centuries. They were granted noble status and fought alongside Poles in their wars.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars

    "According to some estimates, by 1590–1591 there were about 200,000[10] Lipka Tatars living in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth and about 400 mosques serving them. " [I suspect this was an exaggeration]

    There aren't many left currently, only a few thousand are left, most have slowly assimilated over the centuries, but they coexisted peacefully.

    Here are some Polish Lipka Tatar girls:

    https://static.prsa.pl/images/3b015dbe-83ce-41dd-b8f7-9c9931d9ead1.jpg

    One of their mosques in Poland (it manages to look very Polish):

    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/RA4D8A/the-kruszyniany-lipka-tatar-mosque-in-kruszyniany-poland-RA4D8A.jpg

    Charles Bronson is probably the most famous of these Tatars (his dad was from Lithuania).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  254. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Even Navalny once referred to people from the Caucuses as cockroaches.
     
    Yes, and the West subsequently punished him for it:

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2021/05/statement-on-alexei-navalnys-status-as-prisoner-of-conscience/

    Basically, Amnesty International temporarily took away Navalny's prisoner of conscience status as a result of his past xenophobic and bigoted statements, before re-instating it due to fears that Putin was abusing him.

    Basically, my own logic here is this: Even someone like Navalny might want to appear more "handshake-worthy" in Western eyes by repudiating his past views on these things, and the best way to do that is not merely to make some symbolic gestures but rather to indicate that Russia is wide open for mass immigration. Navalny could portray this experience and change of views as an epiphany of sorts for him.

    The template for liberal Eastern Europeans is Czechia. Libertinism, secularism and democracy, but not mass immigration (this is why people who claim liberalizing Poland will be another Ireland, full of non-Europeans, are just wrong. Liberalizing Poland will be more like Czechia).

    That having been said, unlike Czechia (or Poland), Russia does border several fecund Islamic countries and has a large native Muslim population, so increased Muslim population is inevitable.
     

    False analogy, because Russia has a long history of ruling over and integrating Muslims, and often rather successfully, whereas Czechia (and Poland/the PLC) does not. Austria-Hungary historically did not have many Muslims other than in Bosnia and Herzegovina, which it only ruled for several decades (mostly as an occupying force) and which was only officially a part of Austria-Hungary for just a single decade. In contrast, Russia ruled over Muslims for many decades and often for much longer. Thus, it's not unreasonable to hypothesize that Muslims would integrate better in Russia than they would somewhere like Czechia, similar to how it's not unreasonable to hypothesize that Syrian refugees would integrate better in Turkey (due to them being the descendants of former Ottoman subjects for centuries) than somewhere like Germany (unless perhaps they are cognitive elites or middle-class types). So, it makes sense for Russian liberals to push for mass immigration, including of the Muslim kind, in a way that it does not make sense for, say, Czech or Polish liberals to do so.

    One could wonder whether in the absence of Communism, Muslims would have been for Greater Russia what Latin Americans are for the US. One can indeed even view Kazakhstan (and northern Kyrgyzstan as well) as a mixed Muslim-Slavic space similar to how the US Southwest is a mixed Anglo-Latin American space.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Similar to Austria-Hungary, I don’t recall the PLC ever ruling over many Muslims either. Did it? It ruled over a lot of Jews, no doubt, but Muslims?

  255. @LondonBob
    @Beckow

    Doubt it was actually Ukrainians operating the system that shot it down, Iris T or Patriot supposedly, perhaps German or American crew, so does beg the question why they did it. Of course we still don't know if the Ukrainian crew who shot down MH17 with their BUK did it deliberately, or out of sheer incompetence, I suspect it was deliberate, in that case.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Doubt it was actually Ukrainians operating the system that shot it down, Iris T or Patriot supposedly, perhaps German or American crew, so does beg the question why they did it.

    There are holes on the parts of downed plane from anti-aircraft missile. The investigation will show which system was used. Most likely NATO-supplied, which makes NATO an accomplice of Ukie criminals, even if the crew was Ukie (which I doubt, but no investigation on the Ukie-controlled territory is possible). Like someone did not know that already.

  256. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Please tell me that no actual person was offended by Speedy Gonzales!

    I guess the concept of the character was snarky since the stereotype is that Mexicans are slow and lazy. Sort of like naming your pet snail "Turbo".

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/9/cancel-speedy-gonzales-not-so-fast-latinos-say/

    “Neither me nor anyone amongst my family and friends in Mexico felt offended by Speedy Gonzales,” tweeted the account named Hispanic Citizen. “He was intelligent, witty, the fastest of them all and would always outsmart his rivals. The sombreros? Many Mexicans wear them with pride every World Cup. I love Speedy.”

    It’s not the first time the mouse has been targeted — and has survived due to the cascade of love shown on him from the Latino community.

    In 1999, Speedy Gonzales was banned from the Cartoon Network after it decided the cartoon was too offensive and reinforced negative Mexican stereotypes like speaking in a heavy accent and wearing a sombrero. The network reinstated him three years later after fan outrage.

    The League of United Latin American Citizens, a Latino anti-discrimination organization, helped get Speedy back on the air after Cartoon Network shelved him.

    “In Mexico we grew up watching Speedy Gonzales,” Eugenio Derbez, told Deadline at the time. “He was like a superhero to us, or maybe more like a revolucionario like Simón Bolívar or Pancho Villa.”

    It’s a case of white liberals pretending to know better what’s offensive to Hispanics than Hispanics themselves.

  257. @A123
    @John Johnson

    LOL -- Apparently you not understand the movie industry. Let me bring you up to speed.

    The revenue is the box office less the theatre chain cut, taxes, and misc. fees.. Roughly 50% makes it back to the studio.

    The expense is production cost + marketing. And, the studios are know to under report production expense.

    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Global Gross: $476 million
    Studio share (~50%) $238 million

    Production Budget: $200-225 million
    Marketing: $50-100 million

    The movie lost $12 million "best case" and up to $87 million "worst case". $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel's books. The source I provided earlier puts it at a loss of $37 million in their model (1). And, it could be much worse if Marvel is not disclosing the entire filming expense.

    For example, the admitted production budget for The Marvels is only $275 million. However, public filings in the UK suggest that the actual is $325-350 million even after credits are applied. Without assistance it would have been over $400 million.
    ___

    Disney did not make Avatar. They only distributed it. Thank you for making my case about recent Disney movies being terrible. Your admission that Disney Corporation is being propped up by the creative work of others is really helpful to my core argument -- the dismal nature of Marvel films.
    ____

    You must be deeply emotionally attached to these Marvel films to be such a passionate defender of them.

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out recently is terrible and lost money. Why do you find it so hard to agree with my fairly non-controversial position?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The movie lost $12 million “best case” and up to $87 million “worst case”. $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel’s books.

    You’re pulling numbers out of your butt again.

    100 million on marketing? Based on what? Conjecture?

    It cost them 193 million to make the movie
    https://screenrant.com/how-much-ant-man-wasp-quantumania-cost-to-make/

    Prior to the film’s release, early projections noted that Quantumania could gross over $100 million domestically and $280 million globally in its opening weekend, though the film went on to gross roughly $120 million over the four-day period – making it the best opening weekend of the MCU’s Ant-Man franchise.

    Best opening weekend for that awful franchise.

    And the movie industry hasn’t fully recovered from COVID.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    Your emotional attachment to this Marvel project is showing through. I even shared an objective industry source that provided a loss estimate similar to mine. (1)


    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Budget: $275 million
    Break Even: $550
    Global Gross: $476 million
    Deficit: -$37 million
     

    Alas, he did not provide details of his model.

    We cannot follow the steps between the top line numbers and final loss. However, his "budget" must be inclusive of marketing as $275 is near center of what I estimated for production + marketing as separate line items.
    ____

    Everyone keeps noticing you are repeatedly evading my position:

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out *recently* is terrible and lost money.

    • Why do you believe the movies were good?
    • Or, do you agree with me?

    If you agree with me that the movies were bad, why are you whinging on so much?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird

  258. @John Johnson
    @A123

    The movie lost $12 million “best case” and up to $87 million “worst case”. $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel’s books.

    You're pulling numbers out of your butt again.

    100 million on marketing? Based on what? Conjecture?

    It cost them 193 million to make the movie
    https://screenrant.com/how-much-ant-man-wasp-quantumania-cost-to-make/

    Prior to the film's release, early projections noted that Quantumania could gross over $100 million domestically and $280 million globally in its opening weekend, though the film went on to gross roughly $120 million over the four-day period - making it the best opening weekend of the MCU's Ant-Man franchise.

    Best opening weekend for that awful franchise.

    And the movie industry hasn't fully recovered from COVID.

    Replies: @A123

    Your emotional attachment to this Marvel project is showing through. I even shared an objective industry source that provided a loss estimate similar to mine. (1)

    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Budget: $275 million
    Break Even: $550
    Global Gross: $476 million
    Deficit: -$37 million

    Alas, he did not provide details of his model.

    We cannot follow the steps between the top line numbers and final loss. However, his “budget” must be inclusive of marketing as $275 is near center of what I estimated for production + marketing as separate line items.
    ____

    Everyone keeps noticing you are repeatedly evading my position:

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out *recently* is terrible and lost money.

    • Why do you believe the movies were good?
    • Or, do you agree with me?

    If you agree with me that the movies were bad, why are you whinging on so much?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Your emotional attachment to this Marvel project is showing through.

    That's amusing since I barely made it through the trailer. I have never watched an ant man movie. It's a ridiculous premise. I'd rather blow up ant hills.

    You cited it as a flop. I don't see evidence of that.

    We cannot follow the steps between the top line numbers and final loss. However, his “budget” must be inclusive of marketing as $275 is near center of what I estimated for production + marketing as separate line items.

    There is no reason to assume a marketing budget of 100 million. This is not a big series like Guardians and the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.

    Speaking of Covid let's look at box office revenue by year:

    2023 $8,905,571,857 +20.8% 589 $15,119,816 Barbie
    2022 $7,369,505,492 +64.4% 498 $14,798,203 Top Gun: Maverick
    2021 $4,482,808,453 +112.1% 440 $10,188,201 Spider-Man: No Way Home
    2020 $2,113,846,800 -81.4% 456 $4,635,628 Bad Boys for Life
    2019 $11,363,364,796 -4.4% 910 $12,487,214 Avengers: Endgame
    2018 $11,892,160,011 +7.4% 993 $11,975,991 Black Panther
    2017 $11,075,387,520 -2.6% 854 $12,968,837 Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi

    Clearly the movies have not recovered and yet Ant Man 3 had the best opening weekend for the series.

    But we also see shitty Disney movies dominating the charts from 2017-2019 and 2/3 are comic book movies.

    This is exactly what I am talking about. Comic book and Star Wars dorks cannot wait for the rental. They complain about these movies and then they go and hand Disney money for a full price ticket. It's pathetic. Disney gets the message that they can do whatever they want with these franchises. The early reviews for Star Wars showed that it had a lazy derivative story and yet White men lined up for that crap. Or I should say White man children who will pay for anything with Star Wars slapped on it. Star Wars 17 the inter-species orgy with White guilt messaging? Sounds awful....ok here's your money Kathy.

    Everyone keeps noticing you are repeatedly evading my position:

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out *recently* is terrible and lost money.

    LOL exactly what I am talking about. It's all terrible and yet you listen to some podcast about how awful it is. Right.

    I don't like prime time reality shows and yet I don't have the need to listen to someone talk about how bad they have become. I don't watch them.

    What about Guardians? Is that woke because they have a chick?

    Disney celebrates Guardians 3 success:
    https://thedirect.com/article/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-box-office-performance-disney

    Disney is not bleeding money from Marvel movies. Kathleen Kennedy is an agenda driven liberal but there are enough Whites that will hand her money for any Marvel and Star Wars movie. All White people have to do is wait for the damn rental. That's it. But they can't do that which sends the message that Kathy has free reign.

    Replies: @A123

    , @songbird
    @A123

    Have you ever heard of a backwards sliding code?

    JJ=>KK?

    Replies: @A123

  259. @A123
    @John Johnson

    Your emotional attachment to this Marvel project is showing through. I even shared an objective industry source that provided a loss estimate similar to mine. (1)


    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Budget: $275 million
    Break Even: $550
    Global Gross: $476 million
    Deficit: -$37 million
     

    Alas, he did not provide details of his model.

    We cannot follow the steps between the top line numbers and final loss. However, his "budget" must be inclusive of marketing as $275 is near center of what I estimated for production + marketing as separate line items.
    ____

    Everyone keeps noticing you are repeatedly evading my position:

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out *recently* is terrible and lost money.

    • Why do you believe the movies were good?
    • Or, do you agree with me?

    If you agree with me that the movies were bad, why are you whinging on so much?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird

    Your emotional attachment to this Marvel project is showing through.

    That’s amusing since I barely made it through the trailer. I have never watched an ant man movie. It’s a ridiculous premise. I’d rather blow up ant hills.

    You cited it as a flop. I don’t see evidence of that.

    We cannot follow the steps between the top line numbers and final loss. However, his “budget” must be inclusive of marketing as $275 is near center of what I estimated for production + marketing as separate line items.

    There is no reason to assume a marketing budget of 100 million. This is not a big series like Guardians and the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.

    Speaking of Covid let’s look at box office revenue by year:

    2023 $8,905,571,857 +20.8% 589 $15,119,816 Barbie
    2022 $7,369,505,492 +64.4% 498 $14,798,203 Top Gun: Maverick
    2021 $4,482,808,453 +112.1% 440 $10,188,201 Spider-Man: No Way Home
    2020 $2,113,846,800 -81.4% 456 $4,635,628 Bad Boys for Life
    2019 $11,363,364,796 -4.4% 910 $12,487,214 Avengers: Endgame
    2018 $11,892,160,011 +7.4% 993 $11,975,991 Black Panther
    2017 $11,075,387,520 -2.6% 854 $12,968,837 Star Wars: Episode VIII – The Last Jedi

    Clearly the movies have not recovered and yet Ant Man 3 had the best opening weekend for the series.

    But we also see shitty Disney movies dominating the charts from 2017-2019 and 2/3 are comic book movies.

    This is exactly what I am talking about. Comic book and Star Wars dorks cannot wait for the rental. They complain about these movies and then they go and hand Disney money for a full price ticket. It’s pathetic. Disney gets the message that they can do whatever they want with these franchises. The early reviews for Star Wars showed that it had a lazy derivative story and yet White men lined up for that crap. Or I should say White man children who will pay for anything with Star Wars slapped on it. Star Wars 17 the inter-species orgy with White guilt messaging? Sounds awful….ok here’s your money Kathy.

    Everyone keeps noticing you are repeatedly evading my position:

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out *recently* is terrible and lost money.

    LOL exactly what I am talking about. It’s all terrible and yet you listen to some podcast about how awful it is. Right.

    I don’t like prime time reality shows and yet I don’t have the need to listen to someone talk about how bad they have become. I don’t watch them.

    What about Guardians? Is that woke because they have a chick?

    Disney celebrates Guardians 3 success:
    https://thedirect.com/article/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-box-office-performance-disney

    Disney is not bleeding money from Marvel movies. Kathleen Kennedy is an agenda driven liberal but there are enough Whites that will hand her money for any Marvel and Star Wars movie. All White people have to do is wait for the damn rental. That’s it. But they can’t do that which sends the message that Kathy has free reign.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson


    the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.
     
    Do you just make stuff up?

    You claim this cut. However, I do not see evidence of this.

    Have you considered providing citations to back up your wild claims about lower marketing budgets?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  260. @A123
    @John Johnson

    Your emotional attachment to this Marvel project is showing through. I even shared an objective industry source that provided a loss estimate similar to mine. (1)


    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Budget: $275 million
    Break Even: $550
    Global Gross: $476 million
    Deficit: -$37 million
     

    Alas, he did not provide details of his model.

    We cannot follow the steps between the top line numbers and final loss. However, his "budget" must be inclusive of marketing as $275 is near center of what I estimated for production + marketing as separate line items.
    ____

    Everyone keeps noticing you are repeatedly evading my position:

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out *recently* is terrible and lost money.

    • Why do you believe the movies were good?
    • Or, do you agree with me?

    If you agree with me that the movies were bad, why are you whinging on so much?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/27/nolte-looking-back-at-disneys-year-of-flops/

    Replies: @John Johnson, @songbird

    Have you ever heard of a backwards sliding code?

    JJ=>KK?

    • Agree: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird

    LOL.

    My position has been consistently that these productions are bad. In fact, so bad that there is now an entire streaming subculture so dedicated to bashing these failures. "We watch them so you do not have to!"

    I gained a great deal of entertainment from Robyn Hood without paying for a single frame of the original work. JJ/KK seems to think we watch these things. No! No, we do not!

     
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHiGCDsBVjI
     

    I concede there is a certain level of "low brow" to kicking those who are down. However, Director X volunteered for this when he made such a wretched show at Canadian taxpayer expense.
    ___

    JJ/KK claims expenses are being covered by traditional fans lining up to watch Disney creative output. It simply is not so.

    Notice JJ/KK cannot cite reliable marketing expense. I would gladly take a credible figure over the 33%-50% of production cost band. But, the details remain a fairly closely guarded secret.

    Spider-Man: No Way Home was a SONY production. It was good, in part, because Disney's creative team had no input.

    This makes Marvel's last #1 cape film Avengers: Endgame in 2019. It was at best a "mid" effort that could not be skipped for those who wanted an ending for the much better Avengers: Infinity War.
    ___

    What Hollywood fears most is that things have permanently changed. The WUHAN-19 recovery is over. It was a $12 Billion industry in 2018. People found more fulfilling replacements. Movie theaters are now a $9 Billion industry. That $3B is now gone every year for the foreseeable future. It is not coming back.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  261. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Your emotional attachment to this Marvel project is showing through.

    That's amusing since I barely made it through the trailer. I have never watched an ant man movie. It's a ridiculous premise. I'd rather blow up ant hills.

    You cited it as a flop. I don't see evidence of that.

    We cannot follow the steps between the top line numbers and final loss. However, his “budget” must be inclusive of marketing as $275 is near center of what I estimated for production + marketing as separate line items.

    There is no reason to assume a marketing budget of 100 million. This is not a big series like Guardians and the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.

    Speaking of Covid let's look at box office revenue by year:

    2023 $8,905,571,857 +20.8% 589 $15,119,816 Barbie
    2022 $7,369,505,492 +64.4% 498 $14,798,203 Top Gun: Maverick
    2021 $4,482,808,453 +112.1% 440 $10,188,201 Spider-Man: No Way Home
    2020 $2,113,846,800 -81.4% 456 $4,635,628 Bad Boys for Life
    2019 $11,363,364,796 -4.4% 910 $12,487,214 Avengers: Endgame
    2018 $11,892,160,011 +7.4% 993 $11,975,991 Black Panther
    2017 $11,075,387,520 -2.6% 854 $12,968,837 Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi

    Clearly the movies have not recovered and yet Ant Man 3 had the best opening weekend for the series.

    But we also see shitty Disney movies dominating the charts from 2017-2019 and 2/3 are comic book movies.

    This is exactly what I am talking about. Comic book and Star Wars dorks cannot wait for the rental. They complain about these movies and then they go and hand Disney money for a full price ticket. It's pathetic. Disney gets the message that they can do whatever they want with these franchises. The early reviews for Star Wars showed that it had a lazy derivative story and yet White men lined up for that crap. Or I should say White man children who will pay for anything with Star Wars slapped on it. Star Wars 17 the inter-species orgy with White guilt messaging? Sounds awful....ok here's your money Kathy.

    Everyone keeps noticing you are repeatedly evading my position:

    Those of use who are more realistic, including the streaming community, realize that the vast majority of what Marvel and Lucasfilm put out *recently* is terrible and lost money.

    LOL exactly what I am talking about. It's all terrible and yet you listen to some podcast about how awful it is. Right.

    I don't like prime time reality shows and yet I don't have the need to listen to someone talk about how bad they have become. I don't watch them.

    What about Guardians? Is that woke because they have a chick?

    Disney celebrates Guardians 3 success:
    https://thedirect.com/article/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-box-office-performance-disney

    Disney is not bleeding money from Marvel movies. Kathleen Kennedy is an agenda driven liberal but there are enough Whites that will hand her money for any Marvel and Star Wars movie. All White people have to do is wait for the damn rental. That's it. But they can't do that which sends the message that Kathy has free reign.

    Replies: @A123

    the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.

    Do you just make stuff up?

    You claim this cut. However, I do not see evidence of this.

    Have you considered providing citations to back up your wild claims about lower marketing budgets?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123


    the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.
     
    Do you just make stuff up?

    No I read about a dozen articles on how Hollywood reeled in spending on marketing. They have cut down both marketing and big budget movies.

    You claim this cut. However, I do not see evidence of this.

    Well here you go

    Cinema advertising spending worldwide from 2014 to 2022
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/273715/global-cinema-advertising-expenditure/

    It dropped with COVID.

    Replies: @A123

  262. @A123
    @songbird



    Very few complained when Nick Fury was race swapped because the character was fundamentally the same.
     
    In other words, I think you are saying they had similarly perceived testosterone levels, unlike what they did with Jimmy Olson, or some of the female characters.
     
    Yes. Samuel Jackson portrayed the Nick Fury character as a tough guy, which was true to the spirit of the original source material.

    Other swaps have broken the underlying characters.



    Intentionally dressing women in ugly costumes so they “do not attract the male gaze” has been a failure.
     
    Possibly could have been some wardrobe design failure.
     
    If one actress had bad garb it could be a wardrobe failure. In The Marvels all three stars had outfits that minimized natural curves in favour of much more unattractive blocky/butch body shapes. It was part of the blatantly woke message that kept men from paying for tickets.

    Worse when they cast uggos, IMO.
     
    I agree. Barbie was originally going to cast a comedian, IIRC Amy Schumer. Margo Robbie joined the project late, capturing the nostalgia of the doll. Even female ticket buyers want to see appealing on screen presence. Making women non-feminine is an inevitable SJW fail.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I agree. Barbie was originally going to cast a comedian, IIRC Amy Schumer. Margo Robbie joined the project late, capturing the nostalgia of the doll. Even female ticket buyers want to see appealing on screen presence. Making women non-feminine is an inevitable SJW fail.

    I wish that awful movie had Amy Schumer. Would have been way better with her farting and jokes about getting her fat ass into Barbie pants. In one part she pretty much pauses her own movie to rant about men. Seriously.

    Barbie is an incoherent mess with a heavy dose of SJW messaging. The “Blame men” rant with a literal voiceover from the writer was unreal.

    The liberal that made the movie couldn’t decide if she wanted it to be a criticism of the Barbie ideal or if Barbie should be her own feminist ideal.
    I can’t think of another movie where the script feels like the writer had a change of mind every 10 minutes. Then towards the end she turns it into a musical where the Kens dance for the female audience. What the flying fuck? The script of Barbie ironically feels like the random musings of an impulsive and mentally unstable woman. Definitely not the feminist ideal.

    The other irony is that Ryan Gosling was the best actor and really shined after the “Bad Man” turn. He had some pretty funny lines while Robbie understandably seemed confused by the script and doesn’t feel out a consistent character. Her comedy wasn’t utilized and the mom/daughter duo were awful.

    I told my wife I would watch it with her and boy was that a mistake. It’s terrible.

  263. @sudden death
    @AnonfromTN

    Let's for a moment assume this version is somewhat truthful - then it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast, while various poor qcics here have been sweating for several years already when trying to prove that RF isn't massively airbombing Kharkov city only because Kremlin ruling chimpanzee gang is very kindhearted towards UA people, lol

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel, @Gerard1234

    Let’s for a moment assume this version is somewhat truthful

    It is truthful. If you’ve wasted your time reading conspiracy theories stop doing it, you’ve been lied to. The Ukrainians have acknowledged that it was them and even the BBC has finally given up and acknowledged it too. This morning it was impossible to find out anything about the details of the incident on the BBC (my self-flagellatory first pass at the daily news) without going through endless warnings that “the Russian authorities are well known to lie in these occasions”, “the Ukrainian authorities are urging people not to fall for Russian misinformation”, “we can’t independently confirm the veracity of the Russian claims, “it would be very unusual for the Russians to use such an expensive plane for prisoner transport”, blah-blah-blah….

    What is so painful about admitting that your side has fallen victim to a friendly fire incident? It happens all the time in all wars. The Israelis shot at their own during the October pogrom and later on they killed 3 of their hostages right after they had miraculously escaped from their captors. Of course the Ukrainians are going to deny it for as long as they can. That’s what they always do. If any reader with an IQ above 80 has figured this out, there’s no way the editors at the BBC, the CNN and all the rest of the propagandists don’t know it. Admitting that things probably are what they looked like from the beginning, as they almost always are, does not mean that you’re taking Putin’s side. Idiots.

    But yes, the Russians don’t control their airspace, can’t guarantee the lives of their people in the border cities, can’t make any advances without losing thousands of men in months-long battles and the Ukrainians are also getting bled out. It’s time for everybody to stop the carnage, if only to lick their wounds and maybe try again in the future.

  264. @sudden death
    @Beckow

    The plane was shot and fell down next to Belgorod city airfield, which was not the place of exchange at all, but it still is besides the point that UA can shoot RF planes out of the sky far from the border.

    Just yesterday RF was launching rockets into Kharkov city so tt's quite imaginable that some miscommunication fuck up in UA command chain could have happened if they thought it might be another plane trying to shoot air to surface rockets into Kharkov again, but that is again besides the main point of UA having such tight RF airspace control capability, if we choose to believe RF pushed version this time;)

    Replies: @QCIC

    What is the Russian civil aviation keep out zone, in other words, how close to the border can planes legally fly?

    +++

    When I suggest Russia can bomb Kharkov if they need to, I am not implying it is easy, just that it is doable. They have to destroy the remaining high altitude air defenses in the area first and these are being replenished from the West. Nonetheless, the Russians regularly shoot enough missiles across Ukraine to do the job. If these were part of a concentrated attack they could take out the SAM sites within range of Kharkov. Then they could attack with strike aircraft to clean up hidden SAMs. Then there is nothing left to protect against heavy bombing. How far back do the Russians have to clean out the air defenses? Who knows, 100 miles? This is only about 20 miles from the border, so it is reasonable to assume they know where everything is. All aircraft will still be vulnerable to MANPADS below a certain altitude. They do not want to seriously bomb Kharkov or Kiev or they would have done so. Maybe this will change their mind. If NATO is willing to shoot down aircraft over Russia then it may be time for sensible people in the Baltics to move to Mexico.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @QCIC

    Since the beginning it has been known that Ukrainians put SAM sites in cities using civilians as human shields. A SAM site in or near a city is not hidden, everyone that cares knows where it is. It is illegal to post this information in the media or social media so we do not know the locations. At some point, if enough people flee the area then the human shield effectiveness is decreased and these targets may be destroyed. What are the Russian rules of engagement?

  265. @songbird
    @A123

    Have you ever heard of a backwards sliding code?

    JJ=>KK?

    Replies: @A123

    LOL.

    My position has been consistently that these productions are bad. In fact, so bad that there is now an entire streaming subculture so dedicated to bashing these failures. “We watch them so you do not have to!”

    I gained a great deal of entertainment from Robyn Hood without paying for a single frame of the original work. JJ/KK seems to think we watch these things. No! No, we do not!

     

     

    I concede there is a certain level of “low brow” to kicking those who are down. However, Director X volunteered for this when he made such a wretched show at Canadian taxpayer expense.
    ___

    JJ/KK claims expenses are being covered by traditional fans lining up to watch Disney creative output. It simply is not so.

    Notice JJ/KK cannot cite reliable marketing expense. I would gladly take a credible figure over the 33%-50% of production cost band. But, the details remain a fairly closely guarded secret.

    Spider-Man: No Way Home was a SONY production. It was good, in part, because Disney’s creative team had no input.

    This makes Marvel’s last #1 cape film Avengers: Endgame in 2019. It was at best a “mid” effort that could not be skipped for those who wanted an ending for the much better Avengers: Infinity War.
    ___

    What Hollywood fears most is that things have permanently changed. The WUHAN-19 recovery is over. It was a $12 Billion industry in 2018. People found more fulfilling replacements. Movie theaters are now a $9 Billion industry. That $3B is now gone every year for the foreseeable future. It is not coming back.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: songbird
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    JJ/KK claims expenses are being covered by traditional fans lining up to watch Disney creative output. It simply is not so.

    I assume the same people complaining about Marvel and Star Wars movies are the very people that are paying full price for them.

    The same phenomenon exists with horror movies. Conservatives will deride them as trash and yet they run them in 95% Christian conservative areas. Who is going to them? The other 5%? Not buying it.

    This is a real problem with White people and I have observed it numerous times. White conservatives complain about Hollywood movies and then the weekend comes.....Should we see bloodbath 2 or trans-aquaman?

    They can't even wait for the rental. It's pathetic. I really thought Hollywood would be in trouble with 60" HDTVs going below $500 and $4 HD rentals. Nope. There are plenty of White guys willing to line up for Ant Man 4 and Star Wars The Rehash. Then they tune into podcasts and nod in agreement on how awful they were. Take that Kathy!

    Box office sales are also only part of the equation. Comic book and Star Wars movies also exist to make profit through merchandising. They don't simply want to stick in a Black character for some "woke" agenda. What they want is for Black kids to buy the action figure, the lunch box, etc. It's not simply about the movie.

    A Star Wars movie is worth about $5-$7 billion in revenue from merchandising:
    https://www.pymnts.com/news/retail/2019/star-wars-disney-movie-merchandise-revenue/

  266. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Even Navalny once referred to people from the Caucuses as cockroaches.
     
    Yes, and the West subsequently punished him for it:

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2021/05/statement-on-alexei-navalnys-status-as-prisoner-of-conscience/

    Basically, Amnesty International temporarily took away Navalny's prisoner of conscience status as a result of his past xenophobic and bigoted statements, before re-instating it due to fears that Putin was abusing him.

    Basically, my own logic here is this: Even someone like Navalny might want to appear more "handshake-worthy" in Western eyes by repudiating his past views on these things, and the best way to do that is not merely to make some symbolic gestures but rather to indicate that Russia is wide open for mass immigration. Navalny could portray this experience and change of views as an epiphany of sorts for him.

    The template for liberal Eastern Europeans is Czechia. Libertinism, secularism and democracy, but not mass immigration (this is why people who claim liberalizing Poland will be another Ireland, full of non-Europeans, are just wrong. Liberalizing Poland will be more like Czechia).

    That having been said, unlike Czechia (or Poland), Russia does border several fecund Islamic countries and has a large native Muslim population, so increased Muslim population is inevitable.
     

    False analogy, because Russia has a long history of ruling over and integrating Muslims, and often rather successfully, whereas Czechia (and Poland/the PLC) does not. Austria-Hungary historically did not have many Muslims other than in Bosnia and Herzegovina, which it only ruled for several decades (mostly as an occupying force) and which was only officially a part of Austria-Hungary for just a single decade. In contrast, Russia ruled over Muslims for many decades and often for much longer. Thus, it's not unreasonable to hypothesize that Muslims would integrate better in Russia than they would somewhere like Czechia, similar to how it's not unreasonable to hypothesize that Syrian refugees would integrate better in Turkey (due to them being the descendants of former Ottoman subjects for centuries) than somewhere like Germany (unless perhaps they are cognitive elites or middle-class types). So, it makes sense for Russian liberals to push for mass immigration, including of the Muslim kind, in a way that it does not make sense for, say, Czech or Polish liberals to do so.

    One could wonder whether in the absence of Communism, Muslims would have been for Greater Russia what Latin Americans are for the US. One can indeed even view Kazakhstan (and northern Kyrgyzstan as well) as a mixed Muslim-Slavic space similar to how the US Southwest is a mixed Anglo-Latin American space.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Russia has a long history of ruling over and integrating Muslims, and often rather successfully, whereas Czechia (and Poland/the PLC) does not

    PLC had loyal Lipka Tatars for centuries. They were granted noble status and fought alongside Poles in their wars.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars

    “According to some estimates, by 1590–1591 there were about 200,000[10] Lipka Tatars living in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth and about 400 mosques serving them. ” [I suspect this was an exaggeration]

    There aren’t many left currently, only a few thousand are left, most have slowly assimilated over the centuries, but they coexisted peacefully.

    Here are some Polish Lipka Tatar girls:

    One of their mosques in Poland (it manages to look very Polish):

    Charles Bronson is probably the most famous of these Tatars (his dad was from Lithuania).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    I vaguely recall reading about them in the past. That said, though, what percentage of the total Polish population were they at their peak? 1%? 2%? 5%? More than 5%?

    With Russia, the Muslim presence is much more notable since the Muslim percentage in the ex-USSR space is very large. I think that at their peak, Muslims will end up making up over a third of the total population in the ex-USSR space. This might not have happened yet since the Muslim % in the ex-USSR space is still increasing relative to the Slavic population in the ex-USSR space.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  267. @QCIC
    @sudden death

    What is the Russian civil aviation keep out zone, in other words, how close to the border can planes legally fly?

    +++

    When I suggest Russia can bomb Kharkov if they need to, I am not implying it is easy, just that it is doable. They have to destroy the remaining high altitude air defenses in the area first and these are being replenished from the West. Nonetheless, the Russians regularly shoot enough missiles across Ukraine to do the job. If these were part of a concentrated attack they could take out the SAM sites within range of Kharkov. Then they could attack with strike aircraft to clean up hidden SAMs. Then there is nothing left to protect against heavy bombing. How far back do the Russians have to clean out the air defenses? Who knows, 100 miles? This is only about 20 miles from the border, so it is reasonable to assume they know where everything is. All aircraft will still be vulnerable to MANPADS below a certain altitude. They do not want to seriously bomb Kharkov or Kiev or they would have done so. Maybe this will change their mind. If NATO is willing to shoot down aircraft over Russia then it may be time for sensible people in the Baltics to move to Mexico.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Since the beginning it has been known that Ukrainians put SAM sites in cities using civilians as human shields. A SAM site in or near a city is not hidden, everyone that cares knows where it is. It is illegal to post this information in the media or social media so we do not know the locations. At some point, if enough people flee the area then the human shield effectiveness is decreased and these targets may be destroyed. What are the Russian rules of engagement?

  268. Lavrov aces again:

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Can definitely trust this guy.

    Lavrov explains that Russia doesn't want a war. That was January 2022 when war plans had already been made.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLr9C7bXtm8

    Replies: @Mikhail

  269. @S
    @songbird


    The film is to America what the flag was once to Britain. By its means, Uncle Sam may hope some day, if he be not checked in time, to Americanize this world.
     
    That's a prescient and insightful comment made in 1923 by the future King Edward.

    However, in regards to the US/UK, it's always good to remind one's self now and again that due to the 'special relationship' formed circa 1900, the US and UK since that time have effectively been back together about the same number of years now as (due to the revolution) they had been officially and formally apart (ie 1776-1900), that they sometimes play good cop/bad cop towards the world, and that one cannot always be certain where the current real center of power of the US/UK geo-political ship is, ie is it New York, or, is it London?

    Replies: @songbird

    These days, I have a hard time believing the UK isn’t led by petty crooks only interested in maximizing rents and real estate developments.

    But I suppose it’s the same class over here, and they are in lockstep.

    • Replies: @S
    @songbird


    These days, I have a hard time believing the UK isn’t led by petty crooks only interested in maximizing rents and real estate developments.
     
    I tend to agree. And in these elites and hangers on claiming to care about everyone, they in reality care for no one...no one, that is, but their personal wealth and their atomized selves, in that order.

    But I suppose it’s the same class over here, and they are in lockstep.
     
    I agree with that as well.

    As a related aside, this reminds me, that when one understands the nature of the 'special relationship' between the US and UK, a relationship so tight that it's only just short of an outright political union, it makes one wonder why the leadership of the Republic of Ireland saw the United States as a 'neutral party' fit to mediate the Good Friday talks between Ireland and Britain.

    I'm not Irish, and it's their affair, but if I was Irish I would of wanted someone other than the US as the neutral mediating party, namely as I don't see the US as being neutral.

    Indeed, in the years before the US/UK special relationship was formed at the turn of the century there was a big push in the US corporate mass media for the United States to simply forget the ugly past and to come back home to the British Empire.

    Below 'More' is an excerpted example of one such of these articles that was written by James Bryce (a British aristocrat) and which appeared in an 1898 edition of the hugely influential Atlantic Monthly:



    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1898/07/the-essential-unity-of-britain-and-america/636614/

    https://youtu.be/qSSXjwqqG5g?si=lRPvUY-uUb5wmXWG

    'The sense of unity and sympathy between these two peoples ought in reason and nature always to have existed.'

    'The Essential Unity of Britain and America' - The Atlantic Monthly (July, 1898)

    'THE editor of The Atlantic Monthly, a magazine which has always sought to treat current questions in a broad and impartial way, asks me to say a few words on a subject which is much in men’s minds on both sides of the Atlantic, — the underlying unity of the English and American peoples, and the causes which have produced that sympathy between them which has been so conspicuously displayed during the last few months.'

    'The sense of unity and sympathy between these two peoples ought in reason and nature always to have existed. It has, in point of fact, existed to a much greater extent than has been generally realized. No American can travel in England, no Englishman can travel in America, without realizing it as a stronger force than he could have gathered from a study of the history of the countries since their political separation.'
     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Coconuts
    @songbird

    I was listening to AA last night doing commentary on an old Adam Curtis documentary series about this topic:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4-JDqF9p_g

    Replies: @German_reader

  270. It is a mistake not to read the comments posted under these odd clips of people being overly friendly to wild animals on YouTube. For instance:

    Used to think I’ll never be interested to vacation in the USA, until I learn about the opossum. Now I’m obsessed and hope I can see opossums in person someday. Such a great animal, I’m surprised they’re not well liked?!?? I wish there’s an animal here that has the same temperament and cuteness as an opossum.

    (Video itself is comparatively uninteresting)

  271. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    Russia has a long history of ruling over and integrating Muslims, and often rather successfully, whereas Czechia (and Poland/the PLC) does not
     
    PLC had loyal Lipka Tatars for centuries. They were granted noble status and fought alongside Poles in their wars.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars

    "According to some estimates, by 1590–1591 there were about 200,000[10] Lipka Tatars living in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth and about 400 mosques serving them. " [I suspect this was an exaggeration]

    There aren't many left currently, only a few thousand are left, most have slowly assimilated over the centuries, but they coexisted peacefully.

    Here are some Polish Lipka Tatar girls:

    https://static.prsa.pl/images/3b015dbe-83ce-41dd-b8f7-9c9931d9ead1.jpg

    One of their mosques in Poland (it manages to look very Polish):

    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/RA4D8A/the-kruszyniany-lipka-tatar-mosque-in-kruszyniany-poland-RA4D8A.jpg

    Charles Bronson is probably the most famous of these Tatars (his dad was from Lithuania).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I vaguely recall reading about them in the past. That said, though, what percentage of the total Polish population were they at their peak? 1%? 2%? 5%? More than 5%?

    With Russia, the Muslim presence is much more notable since the Muslim percentage in the ex-USSR space is very large. I think that at their peak, Muslims will end up making up over a third of the total population in the ex-USSR space. This might not have happened yet since the Muslim % in the ex-USSR space is still increasing relative to the Slavic population in the ex-USSR space.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ


    I think that at their peak, Muslims will end up making up over a third of the total population in the ex-USSR space.
     
    This might be a conservative prediction. Half of the total population in the ex-USSR space eventually becoming Muslim is possible. I just looked at the births and Muslims nowadays are apparently around half of all births in the ex-USSR space.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  272. @A123
    @songbird

    LOL.

    My position has been consistently that these productions are bad. In fact, so bad that there is now an entire streaming subculture so dedicated to bashing these failures. "We watch them so you do not have to!"

    I gained a great deal of entertainment from Robyn Hood without paying for a single frame of the original work. JJ/KK seems to think we watch these things. No! No, we do not!

     
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHiGCDsBVjI
     

    I concede there is a certain level of "low brow" to kicking those who are down. However, Director X volunteered for this when he made such a wretched show at Canadian taxpayer expense.
    ___

    JJ/KK claims expenses are being covered by traditional fans lining up to watch Disney creative output. It simply is not so.

    Notice JJ/KK cannot cite reliable marketing expense. I would gladly take a credible figure over the 33%-50% of production cost band. But, the details remain a fairly closely guarded secret.

    Spider-Man: No Way Home was a SONY production. It was good, in part, because Disney's creative team had no input.

    This makes Marvel's last #1 cape film Avengers: Endgame in 2019. It was at best a "mid" effort that could not be skipped for those who wanted an ending for the much better Avengers: Infinity War.
    ___

    What Hollywood fears most is that things have permanently changed. The WUHAN-19 recovery is over. It was a $12 Billion industry in 2018. People found more fulfilling replacements. Movie theaters are now a $9 Billion industry. That $3B is now gone every year for the foreseeable future. It is not coming back.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    JJ/KK claims expenses are being covered by traditional fans lining up to watch Disney creative output. It simply is not so.

    I assume the same people complaining about Marvel and Star Wars movies are the very people that are paying full price for them.

    The same phenomenon exists with horror movies. Conservatives will deride them as trash and yet they run them in 95% Christian conservative areas. Who is going to them? The other 5%? Not buying it.

    This is a real problem with White people and I have observed it numerous times. White conservatives complain about Hollywood movies and then the weekend comes…..Should we see bloodbath 2 or trans-aquaman?

    They can’t even wait for the rental. It’s pathetic. I really thought Hollywood would be in trouble with 60″ HDTVs going below $500 and $4 HD rentals. Nope. There are plenty of White guys willing to line up for Ant Man 4 and Star Wars The Rehash. Then they tune into podcasts and nod in agreement on how awful they were. Take that Kathy!

    Box office sales are also only part of the equation. Comic book and Star Wars movies also exist to make profit through merchandising. They don’t simply want to stick in a Black character for some “woke” agenda. What they want is for Black kids to buy the action figure, the lunch box, etc. It’s not simply about the movie.

    A Star Wars movie is worth about $5-$7 billion in revenue from merchandising:
    https://www.pymnts.com/news/retail/2019/star-wars-disney-movie-merchandise-revenue/

  273. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    I vaguely recall reading about them in the past. That said, though, what percentage of the total Polish population were they at their peak? 1%? 2%? 5%? More than 5%?

    With Russia, the Muslim presence is much more notable since the Muslim percentage in the ex-USSR space is very large. I think that at their peak, Muslims will end up making up over a third of the total population in the ex-USSR space. This might not have happened yet since the Muslim % in the ex-USSR space is still increasing relative to the Slavic population in the ex-USSR space.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I think that at their peak, Muslims will end up making up over a third of the total population in the ex-USSR space.

    This might be a conservative prediction. Half of the total population in the ex-USSR space eventually becoming Muslim is possible. I just looked at the births and Muslims nowadays are apparently around half of all births in the ex-USSR space.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Number of births in the ex-USSR countries:

    Ukraine: 194,000 (2023): Virtually no Muslim
    Russia: 1,304,000 (2022): Maybe 10% Muslim
    Belarus: 74,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Moldova: 27,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Kazakhstan: 404,000 (2022): Perhaps 80% Muslim
    Kyrgyzstan: 150,000 (2022): Perhaps 95% Muslim
    Tajikistan: 231,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Uzbekistan: 932,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Turkmenistan: 145,000 (2010; more recent data not available): Virtually all Muslim
    Azerbaijan: 123,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim, albeit Shi'a rather than Sunni like in the rest of the ex-USSR
    Armenia: 36,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Georgia: 42,000 (2022): Perhaps 10% Muslim

    The predominantly Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,985,000 births in total while the predominantly non-Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,677,000 births in total. So, Yeah, the Muslims appear to be winning here!

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  274. @A123
    @John Johnson


    the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.
     
    Do you just make stuff up?

    You claim this cut. However, I do not see evidence of this.

    Have you considered providing citations to back up your wild claims about lower marketing budgets?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.

    Do you just make stuff up?

    No I read about a dozen articles on how Hollywood reeled in spending on marketing. They have cut down both marketing and big budget movies.

    You claim this cut. However, I do not see evidence of this.

    Well here you go

    Cinema advertising spending worldwide from 2014 to 2022
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/273715/global-cinema-advertising-expenditure/

    It dropped with COVID.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    Why do you insist on being so deceptive?

    When fewer people were in theaters, the spending in theaters only did indeed go down. However, film marketing spends money in many places. In theater ads is only one of them. You again get the award for true but 100% irrelevant.

    To avoid more evasiveness from you. Here is a more direct question:

    • What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie -- Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    As you claim to have detailed knowledge all things Disney, this should be easy for you. To defend your position that the your movie is highly profitable you need to present something (preferably in this format), including citation to a credible source:


    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Budget: $275 million
    Break Even: $550
    Global Gross: $476 million
    Deficit: -$37 million
     
    Without something on point from you, everyone will continue to accept the movie you keep shilling for lost money.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  275. @Mikhail
    Lavrov aces again:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPoYPb21kAw

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Can definitely trust this guy.

    Lavrov explains that Russia doesn’t want a war. That was January 2022 when war plans had already been made.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Having war plans but not wanting war is reasonable.

  276. Have the few remaining real people noticed that these threads contain greater and greater fraction of “comments” by several paid trolls? It is getting hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. I scroll through troll-spewed propaganda. Lately I found myself scrolling a lot more than reading. I guess that’s the sign of death of these threads.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AnonfromTN

    The key topic has been discussed to death. There are not enough newly available facts to move anyone from their cherished positions.

    There have been few recent Unz articles directly related to this forum and over time we have lost some great commenters.

    Most people are chewing their cud waiting for the next interesting or depressing revelation from Ukraine.

    To honor the memory of the life form formerly known as Tolya we could have discussions related to China and India. Where will these peoples be in twenty years?

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    You probably think I am a paid troll.

    There is only one person on the extant thread who I have tagged to ignore. This commenter has a bunch of comments, perhaps more than any other. I also ignore all replies to this commenter which makes for pretty quick skimming.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  277. @AnonfromTN
    Have the few remaining real people noticed that these threads contain greater and greater fraction of “comments” by several paid trolls? It is getting hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. I scroll through troll-spewed propaganda. Lately I found myself scrolling a lot more than reading. I guess that’s the sign of death of these threads.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard

    The key topic has been discussed to death. There are not enough newly available facts to move anyone from their cherished positions.

    There have been few recent Unz articles directly related to this forum and over time we have lost some great commenters.

    Most people are chewing their cud waiting for the next interesting or depressing revelation from Ukraine.

    To honor the memory of the life form formerly known as Tolya we could have discussions related to China and India. Where will these peoples be in twenty years?

  278. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ


    I think that at their peak, Muslims will end up making up over a third of the total population in the ex-USSR space.
     
    This might be a conservative prediction. Half of the total population in the ex-USSR space eventually becoming Muslim is possible. I just looked at the births and Muslims nowadays are apparently around half of all births in the ex-USSR space.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Number of births in the ex-USSR countries:

    Ukraine: 194,000 (2023): Virtually no Muslim
    Russia: 1,304,000 (2022): Maybe 10% Muslim
    Belarus: 74,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Moldova: 27,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Kazakhstan: 404,000 (2022): Perhaps 80% Muslim
    Kyrgyzstan: 150,000 (2022): Perhaps 95% Muslim
    Tajikistan: 231,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Uzbekistan: 932,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Turkmenistan: 145,000 (2010; more recent data not available): Virtually all Muslim
    Azerbaijan: 123,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim, albeit Shi’a rather than Sunni like in the rest of the ex-USSR
    Armenia: 36,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Georgia: 42,000 (2022): Perhaps 10% Muslim

    The predominantly Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,985,000 births in total while the predominantly non-Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,677,000 births in total. So, Yeah, the Muslims appear to be winning here!

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    I really do think that had Russia avoided going Bolshevik in 1917 and subsequently developed like a normal country, including eventually adopting Great Replacement ideology, then it could have developed a fusion Slavic-Muslim culture, with some East Asians and South Asians thrown into the mix as well.

    Replies: @LT1488

  279. @AnonfromTN
    Have the few remaining real people noticed that these threads contain greater and greater fraction of “comments” by several paid trolls? It is getting hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. I scroll through troll-spewed propaganda. Lately I found myself scrolling a lot more than reading. I guess that’s the sign of death of these threads.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard

    You probably think I am a paid troll.

    There is only one person on the extant thread who I have tagged to ignore. This commenter has a bunch of comments, perhaps more than any other. I also ignore all replies to this commenter which makes for pretty quick skimming.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    You probably think I am a paid troll.
     
    Nope. Your comments suggest that you are one of the remaining real people. That’s why I respond to you. I respond to people, including the ones I disagree with, but never respond to “people” I’ve identified as paid trolls.

    Replies: @German_reader

  280. @AP
    @Beckow


    Here are the latest life expectancies:

     

    Wrong as usual. No wonder you didn’t post the link.

    https://www.thenationshealth.org/content/53/10/1.2

    “In 2022, life expectancy for Hispanic people was 80 years”

    Article is from 2024, it’s the latest number.

    That is higher than any year for Slovakia.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/rou/slovakia/life-expectancy

    And Hispanics outlive the whites because they have much younger average age
     
    Life expectancy stats are calculated from birth. So it is the life expectancy of Hispanics who were born in 2022. You are too ignorant to know that? Yet another of your failures, like your claim that Brazilians are “Hispanics.” Poor Slovak education system. You don’t know life expectancy is calculated. You don’t know that 80 is more than 78.14. You think Brazilians are Hispanics. Etc.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2023/20231129.htm

    From 2021 to 2022, life expectancy at birth in the U.S. increased by 1.1 years (from 76.4 to 77.5)

    The Hispanic population had the second biggest increase in life expectancy in 2022 with a gain of 2.2 years (77.8 to 80.0)

    Go to LA and then go to Prague or Bratislava

     

    The former Hapsburg lands are indeed better, despite the fact that your people are dumber and live less (not Czechs, Slovaks). It’s the legacy you deny in your lack of gratitude.

    Our kids are healthier, smarter, better looking, taller, much higher achieving
     
    They aren’t expected to live as long (see above) and they perform worse on educational tests (PISA) so they aren’t smarter. They are taller and better looking, you at least have that.

    Overall just more desperate sour grapes because you weren’t good enough to succeed in the USA and had to return.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LT1488

    Notice how you ignored Mr Beckow’s comments on Ukraine LOL

  281. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Number of births in the ex-USSR countries:

    Ukraine: 194,000 (2023): Virtually no Muslim
    Russia: 1,304,000 (2022): Maybe 10% Muslim
    Belarus: 74,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Moldova: 27,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Kazakhstan: 404,000 (2022): Perhaps 80% Muslim
    Kyrgyzstan: 150,000 (2022): Perhaps 95% Muslim
    Tajikistan: 231,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Uzbekistan: 932,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Turkmenistan: 145,000 (2010; more recent data not available): Virtually all Muslim
    Azerbaijan: 123,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim, albeit Shi'a rather than Sunni like in the rest of the ex-USSR
    Armenia: 36,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Georgia: 42,000 (2022): Perhaps 10% Muslim

    The predominantly Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,985,000 births in total while the predominantly non-Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,677,000 births in total. So, Yeah, the Muslims appear to be winning here!

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I really do think that had Russia avoided going Bolshevik in 1917 and subsequently developed like a normal country, including eventually adopting Great Replacement ideology, then it could have developed a fusion Slavic-Muslim culture, with some East Asians and South Asians thrown into the mix as well.

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Why do you support them migrating to white countries?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

  282. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    I really do think that had Russia avoided going Bolshevik in 1917 and subsequently developed like a normal country, including eventually adopting Great Replacement ideology, then it could have developed a fusion Slavic-Muslim culture, with some East Asians and South Asians thrown into the mix as well.

    Replies: @LT1488

    Why do you support them migrating to white countries?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488

    I don't, unless they're cognitive elites or middle-class types or legitimate refugees (liberals, atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, gays, et cetera). But I do make a partial exception for Russia because Russia has a long and demonstrated history of successfully integrating Muslims, albeit not without exceptions (Chechens).

    , @John Johnson
    @LT1488

    Russia is a multi-racial and multi-religious country. It is not a White country. They have 193 ethnic groups and you can be prosecuted for "hate speech" if you talk openly about racial differences. They have the largest Muslim population in Europe and also the largest number of Buddhists.

    They should take Europe's Syrians in principle.

    It was Putin that decided to back Assad who is despised by the majority of Syrians.

    Russia could easily absorb a million Syrians.

    They in fact have abandoned cities in Siberia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

  283. @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Why do you support them migrating to white countries?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    I don’t, unless they’re cognitive elites or middle-class types or legitimate refugees (liberals, atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, gays, et cetera). But I do make a partial exception for Russia because Russia has a long and demonstrated history of successfully integrating Muslims, albeit not without exceptions (Chechens).

  284. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Can definitely trust this guy.

    Lavrov explains that Russia doesn't want a war. That was January 2022 when war plans had already been made.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLr9C7bXtm8

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Having war plans but not wanting war is reasonable.

  285. @songbird
    @S

    These days, I have a hard time believing the UK isn't led by petty crooks only interested in maximizing rents and real estate developments.

    But I suppose it's the same class over here, and they are in lockstep.

    Replies: @S, @Coconuts

    These days, I have a hard time believing the UK isn’t led by petty crooks only interested in maximizing rents and real estate developments.

    I tend to agree. And in these elites and hangers on claiming to care about everyone, they in reality care for no one…no one, that is, but their personal wealth and their atomized selves, in that order.

    But I suppose it’s the same class over here, and they are in lockstep.

    I agree with that as well.

    As a related aside, this reminds me, that when one understands the nature of the ‘special relationship’ between the US and UK, a relationship so tight that it’s only just short of an outright political union, it makes one wonder why the leadership of the Republic of Ireland saw the United States as a ‘neutral party’ fit to mediate the Good Friday talks between Ireland and Britain.

    I’m not Irish, and it’s their affair, but if I was Irish I would of wanted someone other than the US as the neutral mediating party, namely as I don’t see the US as being neutral.

    Indeed, in the years before the US/UK special relationship was formed at the turn of the century there was a big push in the US corporate mass media for the United States to simply forget the ugly past and to come back home to the British Empire.

    Below ‘More’ is an excerpted example of one such of these articles that was written by James Bryce (a British aristocrat) and which appeared in an 1898 edition of the hugely influential Atlantic Monthly:

    [MORE]

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1898/07/the-essential-unity-of-britain-and-america/636614/

    ‘The sense of unity and sympathy between these two peoples ought in reason and nature always to have existed.’

    ‘The Essential Unity of Britain and America’ – The Atlantic Monthly (July, 1898)

    ‘THE editor of The Atlantic Monthly, a magazine which has always sought to treat current questions in a broad and impartial way, asks me to say a few words on a subject which is much in men’s minds on both sides of the Atlantic, — the underlying unity of the English and American peoples, and the causes which have produced that sympathy between them which has been so conspicuously displayed during the last few months.’

    ‘The sense of unity and sympathy between these two peoples ought in reason and nature always to have existed. It has, in point of fact, existed to a much greater extent than has been generally realized. No American can travel in England, no Englishman can travel in America, without realizing it as a stronger force than he could have gathered from a study of the history of the countries since their political separation.’

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    There is a pretty big mass of lit on this--Tragedy and Hope, Cecil Rhodes' round table and the Rhodes will, &c. These people loved Britania ruling an empire where the sun never set. I love the map of all the countries the British never invaded which is a small set of all the countries in existence.

    They don't care about Britain or the United States any more. They just want to have convenient luxury rooms at Bilderberg and Davos and Bohemian Grove. If the Chinese and the Russians ever get serious they are going to need a fancy resort meeting for James Bond villains.

    Replies: @Coconuts, @S

  286. @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Why do you support them migrating to white countries?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    Russia is a multi-racial and multi-religious country. It is not a White country. They have 193 ethnic groups and you can be prosecuted for “hate speech” if you talk openly about racial differences. They have the largest Muslim population in Europe and also the largest number of Buddhists.

    They should take Europe’s Syrians in principle.

    It was Putin that decided to back Assad who is despised by the majority of Syrians.

    Russia could easily absorb a million Syrians.

    They in fact have abandoned cities in Siberia.

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Not just Syrians. They could welcome Muslims from all around the world, possibly after first screening them for radicalism for security reasons. There are many Muslims who or whose ancestors were historically under Russian rule, and even the ones who aren't might be interested in moving to Russia if they won't be able to move to the West or to the oil-rich Gulf states.

    Russia was already described as being a positive influence on its Muslims as early as 1918:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=0O4-AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA361&dq=afghanistan+macedonia&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2j8-9496DAxX5OUQIHXgBBcoQ6AF6BAgMEAI#v=onepage&q=afghanistan%20macedonia&f=false

    Groups such as South Asian Muslims should, at least, be fairly close in culture to Central Asian Muslims, or at least Central Asian Muslims before they were exposed to decades of Communist rule, no?

    Replies: @LT1488

    , @LT1488
    @John Johnson

    Article 282 was retracted wasn't it?
    Also I'm not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ''replacement'' as well.
    As for Muslims in Russia, the Circassian solution is perfect for them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

  287. @S
    @songbird


    These days, I have a hard time believing the UK isn’t led by petty crooks only interested in maximizing rents and real estate developments.
     
    I tend to agree. And in these elites and hangers on claiming to care about everyone, they in reality care for no one...no one, that is, but their personal wealth and their atomized selves, in that order.

    But I suppose it’s the same class over here, and they are in lockstep.
     
    I agree with that as well.

    As a related aside, this reminds me, that when one understands the nature of the 'special relationship' between the US and UK, a relationship so tight that it's only just short of an outright political union, it makes one wonder why the leadership of the Republic of Ireland saw the United States as a 'neutral party' fit to mediate the Good Friday talks between Ireland and Britain.

    I'm not Irish, and it's their affair, but if I was Irish I would of wanted someone other than the US as the neutral mediating party, namely as I don't see the US as being neutral.

    Indeed, in the years before the US/UK special relationship was formed at the turn of the century there was a big push in the US corporate mass media for the United States to simply forget the ugly past and to come back home to the British Empire.

    Below 'More' is an excerpted example of one such of these articles that was written by James Bryce (a British aristocrat) and which appeared in an 1898 edition of the hugely influential Atlantic Monthly:



    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1898/07/the-essential-unity-of-britain-and-america/636614/

    https://youtu.be/qSSXjwqqG5g?si=lRPvUY-uUb5wmXWG

    'The sense of unity and sympathy between these two peoples ought in reason and nature always to have existed.'

    'The Essential Unity of Britain and America' - The Atlantic Monthly (July, 1898)

    'THE editor of The Atlantic Monthly, a magazine which has always sought to treat current questions in a broad and impartial way, asks me to say a few words on a subject which is much in men’s minds on both sides of the Atlantic, — the underlying unity of the English and American peoples, and the causes which have produced that sympathy between them which has been so conspicuously displayed during the last few months.'

    'The sense of unity and sympathy between these two peoples ought in reason and nature always to have existed. It has, in point of fact, existed to a much greater extent than has been generally realized. No American can travel in England, no Englishman can travel in America, without realizing it as a stronger force than he could have gathered from a study of the history of the countries since their political separation.'
     

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    There is a pretty big mass of lit on this–Tragedy and Hope, Cecil Rhodes’ round table and the Rhodes will, &c. These people loved Britania ruling an empire where the sun never set. I love the map of all the countries the British never invaded which is a small set of all the countries in existence.

    They don’t care about Britain or the United States any more. They just want to have convenient luxury rooms at Bilderberg and Davos and Bohemian Grove. If the Chinese and the Russians ever get serious they are going to need a fancy resort meeting for James Bond villains.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    This is discussed in those Adam Curtis documentaries I mentioned. Some Americans appear and talk about how they needed to dismantle the British Empire and free all of those peoples by creating independent republics, spreading democracy etc.

    But now we know that this was a disguised British influence operation. At the same time various people demonstrate that the Soviet Union and Soviet anti-Imperialism was also a British influence operation.

    And Hitler and German National Socialism as well. After all Houston Stewart Chamberlain was English and Kaiser Wilhelm was half-English.

    Now, what was the goal of these influence operations? It is evident that it was the expansion of Indian and Pakistani power. So we see that it is more plausible to look for the roots of this grand conspiracy in New Dehli and Islamabad.

    Am I not right?

    , @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I love the map of all the countries the British never invaded which is a small set of all the countries in existence.
     
    Excellent point.

    And the British cared deeply about them, too, even though they didn't have the benefit of being a formal part of the Empire. It's why the British had to fight Germany in WWI, to protect all the small nations and little peoples of the world (ie Belgium) from imperial might, don't you know! ;-)

    [Now, don't even think of saying anything about little Ireland kept locked up and out of sight in the castle attic for centuries. That would be below the belt and certainly not cricket!]

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Coconuts

  288. @John Johnson
    @LT1488

    Russia is a multi-racial and multi-religious country. It is not a White country. They have 193 ethnic groups and you can be prosecuted for "hate speech" if you talk openly about racial differences. They have the largest Muslim population in Europe and also the largest number of Buddhists.

    They should take Europe's Syrians in principle.

    It was Putin that decided to back Assad who is despised by the majority of Syrians.

    Russia could easily absorb a million Syrians.

    They in fact have abandoned cities in Siberia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

    Not just Syrians. They could welcome Muslims from all around the world, possibly after first screening them for radicalism for security reasons. There are many Muslims who or whose ancestors were historically under Russian rule, and even the ones who aren’t might be interested in moving to Russia if they won’t be able to move to the West or to the oil-rich Gulf states.

    Russia was already described as being a positive influence on its Muslims as early as 1918:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=0O4-AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA361&dq=afghanistan+macedonia&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2j8-9496DAxX5OUQIHXgBBcoQ6AF6BAgMEAI#v=onepage&q=afghanistan%20macedonia&f=false

    Groups such as South Asian Muslims should, at least, be fairly close in culture to Central Asian Muslims, or at least Central Asian Muslims before they were exposed to decades of Communist rule, no?

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Russia never saw Central Asian Muslims as allies, they're called Churkas and Mambets in Russia.
    Infact Stalin had even largely deported Chechens and Dagestanis (before Khruschev brought them back in the layte 1950s and early 60s).
    There were plans of deporting all Bashkirs to Kazakhstan in exchange for Russians in Kazakhstan in the 90s.
    As for Tatars who are somewhat assimilated, had Catherine not un-banned Islam, they would have converted to Christianity eventually.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  289. Interesting that Poland makes Bible burning illegal:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_desecration

    Adam Darski, on September 3, 2007, tore up a Bible while performing onstage. He was prosecuted by the government of Poland for causing offense to the Catholic Church. He was brought to court in 2010, 2011, and again in 2012 for the Bible desecration, with his punishment being up to two years of prison time.[1]

    But at least Poles thankfully presumably oppose physically harming people over this, unlike with some or even many Muslims and Koran burning.

  290. @John Johnson
    @LT1488

    Russia is a multi-racial and multi-religious country. It is not a White country. They have 193 ethnic groups and you can be prosecuted for "hate speech" if you talk openly about racial differences. They have the largest Muslim population in Europe and also the largest number of Buddhists.

    They should take Europe's Syrians in principle.

    It was Putin that decided to back Assad who is despised by the majority of Syrians.

    Russia could easily absorb a million Syrians.

    They in fact have abandoned cities in Siberia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LT1488

    Article 282 was retracted wasn’t it?
    Also I’m not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ”replacement” as well.
    As for Muslims in Russia, the Circassian solution is perfect for them.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488


    Article 282 was retracted wasn’t it?

     

    Yes, it was.

    Also I’m not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ”replacement” as well.
     
    But with Muslims, I was specifically talking about Russia.

    As for Muslims in Russia, the Circassian solution is perfect for them.

     

    Frankly, the Circassians should get a right of return to Russia just like Sephardic Jews got in regards to Spain and Portugal.

    Replies: @LT1488

    , @John Johnson
    @LT1488

    Also I’m not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ”replacement” as well.

    I think Mr XYZ would like to flood Russia with all kinds of immigrants.

    We would probably disagree in that regard.

    One Detroit is enough.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  291. @LT1488
    @John Johnson

    Article 282 was retracted wasn't it?
    Also I'm not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ''replacement'' as well.
    As for Muslims in Russia, the Circassian solution is perfect for them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    Article 282 was retracted wasn’t it?

    Yes, it was.

    Also I’m not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ”replacement” as well.

    But with Muslims, I was specifically talking about Russia.

    As for Muslims in Russia, the Circassian solution is perfect for them.

    Frankly, the Circassians should get a right of return to Russia just like Sephardic Jews got in regards to Spain and Portugal.

    • Replies: @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Circassian solution was the same one muslims in Andalusia got. Will Spain and Portugual ever give rights for Muslims with Andalusian ancestry to move back? Nope, same thing here.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  292. @LT1488
    @John Johnson

    Article 282 was retracted wasn't it?
    Also I'm not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ''replacement'' as well.
    As for Muslims in Russia, the Circassian solution is perfect for them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    Also I’m not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ”replacement” as well.

    I think Mr XYZ would like to flood Russia with all kinds of immigrants.

    We would probably disagree in that regard.

    One Detroit is enough.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Would Russian Detroits really be worse than Chechnya when it was still busy fighting for independence against Russia?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  293. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Not just Syrians. They could welcome Muslims from all around the world, possibly after first screening them for radicalism for security reasons. There are many Muslims who or whose ancestors were historically under Russian rule, and even the ones who aren't might be interested in moving to Russia if they won't be able to move to the West or to the oil-rich Gulf states.

    Russia was already described as being a positive influence on its Muslims as early as 1918:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=0O4-AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA361&dq=afghanistan+macedonia&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2j8-9496DAxX5OUQIHXgBBcoQ6AF6BAgMEAI#v=onepage&q=afghanistan%20macedonia&f=false

    Groups such as South Asian Muslims should, at least, be fairly close in culture to Central Asian Muslims, or at least Central Asian Muslims before they were exposed to decades of Communist rule, no?

    Replies: @LT1488

    Russia never saw Central Asian Muslims as allies, they’re called Churkas and Mambets in Russia.
    Infact Stalin had even largely deported Chechens and Dagestanis (before Khruschev brought them back in the layte 1950s and early 60s).
    There were plans of deporting all Bashkirs to Kazakhstan in exchange for Russians in Kazakhstan in the 90s.
    As for Tatars who are somewhat assimilated, had Catherine not un-banned Islam, they would have converted to Christianity eventually.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @LT1488


    Central Asian Muslims as allies, they’re called Churkas and Mambets in Russia.
     
    Stop lying!!!!! Stop insulting the great and prosperous Slavic and christian state of "Ukraine"!!!
    The "core" of Bandersation is called Cherkassy - i.e after Cherkas which is what is now referred to as Zaporizhian Cossaks called themselves. OK, so they are not central Asian, but northern Kavkaz, mostly Muslim, still Turkic part. Its the same with the Don Cossacks (Novocherkassk & Starocherkassk) - northern kavkaz regions is where these cossack groups were assembled from.

    The word Churka itself has completely different meaning to Cherka, although how it became associated with Kavkaz and central asians may not be entirely coincidental .

    Seriously though, when we do liberate Banderastan, and if we decided to conduct renaming Cherkassy, will it be classified as :

    Denazification?
    Desovietisation?
    Denegrofication?
    De-islamification?
    De-desovietisation?
    De-khokholisation?
    De-Russification?

    Banderastan is that much of a nutjob state, that schizophrenic, it's difficult to know which of those listed it classifies as.

    Of course, 404 has 2 completely contradictory but still simultaneous creation theories of its fake national ideology that have centuries between them - Kievan Rus or from the north Kavkaz cossacks. Both contradictory ideologies but still more than enhance the fact that "Ukraine" starts and finishes in the Russian world, and is infinitely linked to it.

    It is valid to ask where the home of 404 is though? Is it Karachay-Cherkessia? the Kuban region? Novgorod? Saint Petersburg? Vienna? Politburo? Anywhere but Ukraine.
  294. @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488


    Article 282 was retracted wasn’t it?

     

    Yes, it was.

    Also I’m not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ”replacement” as well.
     
    But with Muslims, I was specifically talking about Russia.

    As for Muslims in Russia, the Circassian solution is perfect for them.

     

    Frankly, the Circassians should get a right of return to Russia just like Sephardic Jews got in regards to Spain and Portugal.

    Replies: @LT1488

    Circassian solution was the same one muslims in Andalusia got. Will Spain and Portugual ever give rights for Muslims with Andalusian ancestry to move back? Nope, same thing here.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LT1488

    The Muslims in Spain and Portugal were the descendants of invaders, no? Similar to the pieds-noirs in Algeria. Were the Circassians also the descendants of invaders?


    Russia never saw Central Asian Muslims as allies, they’re called Churkas and Mambets in Russia.
     
    I'm talking about Russian liberals here. Obviously Russian nationalists don't want Central Asians flooding into Russia.

    Infact Stalin had even largely deported Chechens and Dagestanis (before Khruschev brought them back in the layte 1950s and early 60s).
     
    Yes, I know.

    There were plans of deporting all Bashkirs to Kazakhstan in exchange for Russians in Kazakhstan in the 90s.
     
    Were the Bashkirs actually willing to sign up for this?

    As for Tatars who are somewhat assimilated, had Catherine not un-banned Islam, they would have converted to Christianity eventually.
     
    I'm very skeptical of this since the Tatars who did convert to Christianity often (but not always) eventually reverted back to Islam:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryashens

    Ethnographers and historians associate the formation of groups of Kryashens with the process of voluntary and violent Christianization of Muslim and Animist Volga Tatars in the 16-19 centuries.[5][6][7][8][9] The first wave of Kryashens were the result of forced conversions soon after the Russian conquest of the Kazan and Astrakhan Khanates. However, most of these converts reverted to Islam and Christianity made little headway among the Tatars.[10]

    A more lasting and significant presence of Kryashens emerged during a period of mosque destruction and anti-Muslim oppression from the Russian authorities during the 18th century. During the reign of Anna of Russia, many Muslims were forced or pressured to convert.[11] New converts were exempted from paying taxes, were granted certain privileges, and were given better resources for the learning of their new faith. Most Tatars converted for economic or political reasons rather than conviction.[10] Many continued to secretly practice Islam and were crypto-Muslims.[11] By the end of the 19th century, several thousands once again reverted to Islam.[10][11] However, by the early 20th century, there was a significant Kryashen population that still continues to exist though in smaller numbers than in the past.
     

    I think Mr XYZ would like to flood Russia with all kinds of immigrants.

     

    Well, I think that Russia should only accept Sub-Saharan Africans if they will sincerely agree to convert to Russian Orthodoxy. Ditto for Ukraine.

    We would probably disagree in that regard.

    One Detroit is enough.
     
    You don't think that there could be some positive selection among the Sub-Saharan Africans who will choose to convert to Russian Orthodoxy, Mr. John Johnson?
  295. @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Circassian solution was the same one muslims in Andalusia got. Will Spain and Portugual ever give rights for Muslims with Andalusian ancestry to move back? Nope, same thing here.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    The Muslims in Spain and Portugal were the descendants of invaders, no? Similar to the pieds-noirs in Algeria. Were the Circassians also the descendants of invaders?

    Russia never saw Central Asian Muslims as allies, they’re called Churkas and Mambets in Russia.

    I’m talking about Russian liberals here. Obviously Russian nationalists don’t want Central Asians flooding into Russia.

    Infact Stalin had even largely deported Chechens and Dagestanis (before Khruschev brought them back in the layte 1950s and early 60s).

    Yes, I know.

    There were plans of deporting all Bashkirs to Kazakhstan in exchange for Russians in Kazakhstan in the 90s.

    Were the Bashkirs actually willing to sign up for this?

    As for Tatars who are somewhat assimilated, had Catherine not un-banned Islam, they would have converted to Christianity eventually.

    I’m very skeptical of this since the Tatars who did convert to Christianity often (but not always) eventually reverted back to Islam:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryashens

    Ethnographers and historians associate the formation of groups of Kryashens with the process of voluntary and violent Christianization of Muslim and Animist Volga Tatars in the 16-19 centuries.[5][6][7][8][9] The first wave of Kryashens were the result of forced conversions soon after the Russian conquest of the Kazan and Astrakhan Khanates. However, most of these converts reverted to Islam and Christianity made little headway among the Tatars.[10]

    A more lasting and significant presence of Kryashens emerged during a period of mosque destruction and anti-Muslim oppression from the Russian authorities during the 18th century. During the reign of Anna of Russia, many Muslims were forced or pressured to convert.[11] New converts were exempted from paying taxes, were granted certain privileges, and were given better resources for the learning of their new faith. Most Tatars converted for economic or political reasons rather than conviction.[10] Many continued to secretly practice Islam and were crypto-Muslims.[11] By the end of the 19th century, several thousands once again reverted to Islam.[10][11] However, by the early 20th century, there was a significant Kryashen population that still continues to exist though in smaller numbers than in the past.

    I think Mr XYZ would like to flood Russia with all kinds of immigrants.

    Well, I think that Russia should only accept Sub-Saharan Africans if they will sincerely agree to convert to Russian Orthodoxy. Ditto for Ukraine.

    We would probably disagree in that regard.

    One Detroit is enough.

    You don’t think that there could be some positive selection among the Sub-Saharan Africans who will choose to convert to Russian Orthodoxy, Mr. John Johnson?

  296. @John Johnson
    @LT1488

    Also I’m not talking about Russia, Mr XYZ here usually talks about western countries and their ”replacement” as well.

    I think Mr XYZ would like to flood Russia with all kinds of immigrants.

    We would probably disagree in that regard.

    One Detroit is enough.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Would Russian Detroits really be worse than Chechnya when it was still busy fighting for independence against Russia?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    TBH, though, I was hoping for positive selection for Sub-Saharan Africans willing to convert to Russian Orthodoxy. But am I being too optimistic here?

  297. My first comment on this thread.

    Is there any reliable source of information on Russian casualties?

    Russia has a tradition of taking a lackadaisical attitude to casualties.

    However, in this war, it has abandoned territories which wold be too costly to hold.

    I do not know who or what to believe.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @22pp22

    Not that I have seen. At one point AK counted new names on a Russian war memorial and extrapolated this to the country overall giving a large casualty figure. In 2022 I think Russia gave some numbers, though with wording which potentially implied that LDR volunteers, national guard and Wagner were not included in those particular totals.

    Many people who understand the Russian geopolitical perspective in this conflict accept the Russian casualty figure is a large number (shocking by US standards) though still small compared to the Ukrainian figure.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @AnonfromTN
    @22pp22


    I do not know who or what to believe.
     
    I can suggest a technique we used back in the USSR. First, get the reports from both sides (the nature gave us two eyes because you cannot see the world adequately from only one perspective). Second, discard everything either side tells you that is in its interests or supports its favorite narrative: these “reports” have very high probability of being lies, like American libtard stories about economic successes (libtards keep bemoaning the fact that US consumers do not feel this way; this situation is best described by a Russian joke “the people did not justify the trust of the government”). Third, apply your common sense to whatever remains: the events have their logic, so anything that appears to offend your common sense is likely untrue. Like, when someone claims that one side is winning the war while it is actually retreating. Fourth, try some objective sources. E.g., the site https://www.flightradar24.com/24.85,45.40/2 shows live the flights all over the world. When your propaganda tells you that Ukraine is a decent country and you see that nobody flies over it, you get the true picture. This method is rather laborious and imperfect, but a lot better than believing the propaganda of either side if you want to know the real picture.

    I get the info from my relatives and friends who are right now in Russia and Ukraine, and from my personal experience during my regular visits to Russia (now, thanks to the puppet masters of our Alzheimer-in-chief, via roundabout routes: thank goodness, there are plenty). I appreciate that most people do not have these direct sources.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Sean
    @22pp22

    The Russian casualties in the initial stages of the SMO were high and many of extremely valuable professionals whose value was as a cadre that would be the basis for a full mobilization. The losses in the last year have been comparable in quantity yet a a contrast in quality: just as high as in the initial stages, but a relatively large proportion were of barely trained convicts who volunteered from the Russian prisons and are deliberately used to draw out Ukrainian firepower.

    I would say that the numbers do not matter much now because--whatever they are--casualties seem to have become sustainable for Russia and were they to become otherwise Russia could simply step back and stand on the purely defensive, which they are not doing. In my view the original Russian ambitions have matured into a strategy of holding what they have in Ukraine with an aggressive defense while keeping the war going rather than attain any concrete territorial object and they will be able to adjust their tactics accordingly. In a nutshell, I expect nothing much to happen. A lot.

  298. @songbird
    @S

    These days, I have a hard time believing the UK isn't led by petty crooks only interested in maximizing rents and real estate developments.

    But I suppose it's the same class over here, and they are in lockstep.

    Replies: @S, @Coconuts

    I was listening to AA last night doing commentary on an old Adam Curtis documentary series about this topic:

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Coconuts

    I don't really understand the logic of that WW2 revisionism which seems to be common among some right-wingers in Britain and the US, tbh it just comes across like an unthinking reaction against the dominant WW2/Holocaust cult. Hitler really was intent on creating a continental bloc under German domination, if Germany had conquered the Soviet Union, it would have been one of the most powerful states in the world; given how British policy for centuries had been founded on preventing the emergence of a European hegemon, conflict was pretty much inevitable. And some of the comments in that video are just dumb (e.g. at 42.00 "Many Poles would have preferred being governed by Germans to Russians"...just stupid, a good case can be made that the People's republic was one of the best parts of Polish history, certainly infinitely preferable to being a slave people under the likes of Hans Frank...and maybe also to what might happen to Poland in coming decades under "liberal democracy").
    Of course emotionally I understand where these people are coming from, given what a nightmare the post-1945 order already has become.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

  299. @sudden death
    @AnonfromTN

    Let's for a moment assume this version is somewhat truthful - then it means UA army up to this day is easily controlling RF airspace in Belgorod oblast with their own air defences from Kharkov oblast, while various poor qcics here have been sweating for several years already when trying to prove that RF isn't massively airbombing Kharkov city only because Kremlin ruling chimpanzee gang is very kindhearted towards UA people, lol

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel, @Gerard1234

    Forgetting about the total cretinism of your comment , which is just too idiotic to dissect…….this all does remind me that the 2 shithole fake countries( well, shithole for Litva is harsh, blackhole maybe more suitable for Black Russia) of 404 and Black Russia have their authoritarian , scumbag current iterations of “independence” based on 2 false flag events – the killings at the Maidan…….and of course the Lithuanian Nationalist/western intelligence false flag in Vilnius in 1991 around the television tower where, again, snipers killed many protestors. Both falsely blamed on Russia, identical type of murders, both with farcical “investigations”, both the foundation for the 2 freakshow regimes there

    With 404 that’s just one in a series of false flags/mass murder events (HIMARS strike on Ukronazi POW’s in Elenovka one of them).
    In place of reading intellectual dogshit to massage your scumbag mind………why don’t you read something relevant you idiot – like that book by the Black Russsian (now in prison for 6 years I think, Paletskis) about the false flag in 1991?

  300. @22pp22
    My first comment on this thread.

    Is there any reliable source of information on Russian casualties?

    Russia has a tradition of taking a lackadaisical attitude to casualties.

    However, in this war, it has abandoned territories which wold be too costly to hold.

    I do not know who or what to believe.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN, @Sean

    Not that I have seen. At one point AK counted new names on a Russian war memorial and extrapolated this to the country overall giving a large casualty figure. In 2022 I think Russia gave some numbers, though with wording which potentially implied that LDR volunteers, national guard and Wagner were not included in those particular totals.

    Many people who understand the Russian geopolitical perspective in this conflict accept the Russian casualty figure is a large number (shocking by US standards) though still small compared to the Ukrainian figure.

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @QCIC


    Many people who understand the Russian geopolitical perspective in this conflict accept the Russian casualty figure is a large number (shocking by US standards) though still small compared to the Ukrainian figure.
     
    Russian deaths are incomparably lower than US deaths (and casualties) in Vietnam, maybe even in the Korean war also. Massively less compared to American deaths in both the European and Pacific/Japanese parts of WW2. Or to either side in the American Civil War.

    Remember that's all with the comparison that Americans were a significant but still fraction of the native forces they were in fighting coalition with for both the Korean war and Vietnam. In western front of WW2 the Americans probably not much above 50/50 with British or British Empire troops. In the pacific mostly American Navy but land forces fighting the Japanese on Asian mainland is mostly Chinese, British,British Empire(Indians), Koreans, then later the Soviets massively and others cumulatively compared to the Americans.

    For the SMO its solely Russia against NATO & NATO proxy forces.......the kill ratio is extremely high in our favour and our losses are very sad but minimal in context of everything and as a number itself. Forget optical illusions from Ukronazi/western propaganda lies with whatever fake videos , with any actual videos designed to give a fake multiplier perception to the easily manipulated about overall losses. Thats what the modern era can try to give in false perception ridiculous psyops in a way that newspaper & radio reports in WW2 never could propagate. In addition for those of us with friends fighting in SMO, talk of overall high kill ratios with them is irrelevant when you are in or expecting action- but it doesn't change the reality that the GS is working with on a large-scale and implementing successfully.

    Certainly I think western ukroreikh "supporter" retards fed on western propaganda lies will be shocked at just how minimal our losses are. Sure, if 500000 ukronazis are dead, and 4000 foreigners dead by June 2022 - then it's logical to assume a certain number of Russian heroes have passed......but as I said, the assumption is wrong. The number of forces used at the start of the SMO for an operation this small was extremely small.....and extremely successful. The one, partial, mobilisation had zero connection to depletion of forces as events preceeding it and strategy following it prove to any person engaging their brain. Many other things could be said about it - but its a fact that our small number of initial forces would easily have been routed along such a long frontline if our losses before mobilisation were even a fraction of what these retards are claiming. Its also a fact that there was the Surovikin defensive line constructions, but in addition to that in an active warzone we have conducted the largest non-military engineering series of projects in history too. Remarkable achievements, requiring military to secure these projects and administration of liberated regions that much of the mobilisation is partially intended for.


    I understand the sentiment behind your comment, but I don't think it's accurate. Khokhols and western psyops were propagating this same embarassing BS in 2014. Although maybe dumb Americans are completely unaware of their losses in the wars I mentioned anyway.

    As I have said before - this is one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history. Of course you are still talking about an enemy of considerable numerical size armed with huge amounts of Soviet and modern weapons systems, ammunition,data received and other equipment , irrelevant of the huge numbers of this and themselves destroyed by us. They have Zero industrial capacity to provide for their military (because 404 is useless and porous western borders who can provide huge amounts) - this just results in more men on the battlefield we have to fight against.... and their non-existant industrial capacity to support VSU campaign makes a strategic bombing campaign in Ukraine completely useless. We are fighting in cities, towns and even smaller settlements than them designed in Soviet era to be defended in nuclear warfare........and have had 8 years of very serious NATO fortifications constructed.

    All this makes the SMO what it is (an ongoing great success) - I would add that it looks like injured casualties are much closer to deaths in number ( normally expected to be much higher compared to deaths) because the amount of heavy artillery, drones and others being used in action is much higher in ratio to light weapons/small arms than any other war in history. Shoigu mentioned incredible numbers of 90% of our injured fighters have already returned to active service!!!! This supports idea that volume of heavy weaponry used is creating more of a transfer of survivable serious injuries into fatalities......but higher series of lighter injuries not being serious injuries.

    Normally for a war fought like this, the zero MIC would greatly reduce the number of fighters available to fight - here it's the total opposite for 404. More than that ,the allowing of millions of Ukrainian women , children and elderly - together with the quite sizeable increase in ukronazi VSU salaries before the SMO , and during it (via western money of course) is something that, for the first time in history actually encourages a loser-fake nation to be sadist and generate more forces willing to be canon fodder en masse. Normally millions of civilians fleeing is a byproduct of official defeat of their side . Here its a massive technical defeat in rapid time, but even with millions running away there is no official defeat. Normally the political administration of the state would be restricted by financial wartime budget and military personnel mass losses........here it's just the perfect corruption scheme for them, their families and their upper-rank military officers to steal and steal some more with compliant and corrupt westerners allowance.

    I'm extremely dissapointed that 9 or our guys died in the ukronazi Il-76 shot down and also those that can't be exchanged now..... but with this satanic enemy it's a great day's work for them- "only " a 7:1 kill ratio ukrops to Russia's is great, pilots dead is much more military valueable to the nazi's then all of the 65 on that list. The plane itself easily worth destroying over the 65 of their own. Additionally for these vermin, alot of Russian names on the ukronazi POW list. POW ratio is that high in favour of Russia it serves no purpose for the ukroreikh to even do equal exchanges.

    Replies: @German_reader

  301. @John Johnson
    @A123


    the movie studios have cut down their marketing budgets since COVID.
     
    Do you just make stuff up?

    No I read about a dozen articles on how Hollywood reeled in spending on marketing. They have cut down both marketing and big budget movies.

    You claim this cut. However, I do not see evidence of this.

    Well here you go

    Cinema advertising spending worldwide from 2014 to 2022
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/273715/global-cinema-advertising-expenditure/

    It dropped with COVID.

    Replies: @A123

    Why do you insist on being so deceptive?

    When fewer people were in theaters, the spending in theaters only did indeed go down. However, film marketing spends money in many places. In theater ads is only one of them. You again get the award for true but 100% irrelevant.

    To avoid more evasiveness from you. Here is a more direct question:

    • What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie — Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    As you claim to have detailed knowledge all things Disney, this should be easy for you. To defend your position that the your movie is highly profitable you need to present something (preferably in this format), including citation to a credible source:

    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Budget: $275 million
    Break Even: $550
    Global Gross: $476 million
    Deficit: -$37 million

    Without something on point from you, everyone will continue to accept the movie you keep shilling for lost money.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    When fewer people were in theaters, the spending in theaters only did indeed go down. However, film marketing spends money in many places. In theater ads is only one of them. You again get the award for true but 100% irrelevant.

    It's not simply in response to fewer people in theaters. Movie companies have changed their overall strategy even as audience levels return. They're less invested in the blockbuster model where they spend a huge amount on marketing to promote a big budget movie that carries the losers. They're trying to do more with less.

    You can see this just by looking at new releases. They're making a lot more lower budget movies with less marketing. They have also cut back on the big paychecks to celebrity actors.

    One of the biggest hits last year was the super mario movie which only had a budget of 100 million. It was highly profitable and didn't require huge celebrity payouts. As with comic book movies they also made money from merchandising.

    https://deadline.com/2023/04/super-mario-bros-box-office-marketing-mcdonalds-shake-shack-1235320790/

    What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie — Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    I've never seen it so how is it my favorite movie? I don't claim to know the marketing budget but your 100 million is complete conjecture and highly unlikely given the drop in advertising spent by movie companies. We also don't know how much profit they received from merchandising.

    What we do know is that Disney's movies are in the black. They are not bleeding money and Kathy still has a job. She would have been fired by now if Comic/Star Wars dorks would simply Red Box these movies. But they can't resist as they need immediate gratification from fictional stories about flying men in tights and girls battling with laser swords. PACHOO PACHOO. Even during a pandemic we had the comic nerd subset wanting their fcuking star wars movies.

    Guardians 3 was a huge hit so the odds of Kathy being escorted out of the building are nil. As I said before she could take a dump in the middle of a Star Wars movie and the fans would still pay full price to see it. They would take the kids even after reading the review. Then they would complain online that it was crass and even worse didn't follow the canon.

    Replies: @A123

  302. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    There is a pretty big mass of lit on this--Tragedy and Hope, Cecil Rhodes' round table and the Rhodes will, &c. These people loved Britania ruling an empire where the sun never set. I love the map of all the countries the British never invaded which is a small set of all the countries in existence.

    They don't care about Britain or the United States any more. They just want to have convenient luxury rooms at Bilderberg and Davos and Bohemian Grove. If the Chinese and the Russians ever get serious they are going to need a fancy resort meeting for James Bond villains.

    Replies: @Coconuts, @S

    This is discussed in those Adam Curtis documentaries I mentioned. Some Americans appear and talk about how they needed to dismantle the British Empire and free all of those peoples by creating independent republics, spreading democracy etc.

    But now we know that this was a disguised British influence operation. At the same time various people demonstrate that the Soviet Union and Soviet anti-Imperialism was also a British influence operation.

    And Hitler and German National Socialism as well. After all Houston Stewart Chamberlain was English and Kaiser Wilhelm was half-English.

    Now, what was the goal of these influence operations? It is evident that it was the expansion of Indian and Pakistani power. So we see that it is more plausible to look for the roots of this grand conspiracy in New Dehli and Islamabad.

    Am I not right?

    • LOL: LondonBob
  303. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    You probably think I am a paid troll.

    There is only one person on the extant thread who I have tagged to ignore. This commenter has a bunch of comments, perhaps more than any other. I also ignore all replies to this commenter which makes for pretty quick skimming.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    You probably think I am a paid troll.

    Nope. Your comments suggest that you are one of the remaining real people. That’s why I respond to you. I respond to people, including the ones I disagree with, but never respond to “people” I’ve identified as paid trolls.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN

    Talking about "paid trolls" sounds a bit paranoid, sorry. Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this? It's more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC, @A123, @Mikel, @songbird

  304. @22pp22
    My first comment on this thread.

    Is there any reliable source of information on Russian casualties?

    Russia has a tradition of taking a lackadaisical attitude to casualties.

    However, in this war, it has abandoned territories which wold be too costly to hold.

    I do not know who or what to believe.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN, @Sean

    I do not know who or what to believe.

    I can suggest a technique we used back in the USSR. First, get the reports from both sides (the nature gave us two eyes because you cannot see the world adequately from only one perspective). Second, discard everything either side tells you that is in its interests or supports its favorite narrative: these “reports” have very high probability of being lies, like American libtard stories about economic successes (libtards keep bemoaning the fact that US consumers do not feel this way; this situation is best described by a Russian joke “the people did not justify the trust of the government”). Third, apply your common sense to whatever remains: the events have their logic, so anything that appears to offend your common sense is likely untrue. Like, when someone claims that one side is winning the war while it is actually retreating. Fourth, try some objective sources. E.g., the site https://www.flightradar24.com/24.85,45.40/2 shows live the flights all over the world. When your propaganda tells you that Ukraine is a decent country and you see that nobody flies over it, you get the true picture. This method is rather laborious and imperfect, but a lot better than believing the propaganda of either side if you want to know the real picture.

    I get the info from my relatives and friends who are right now in Russia and Ukraine, and from my personal experience during my regular visits to Russia (now, thanks to the puppet masters of our Alzheimer-in-chief, via roundabout routes: thank goodness, there are plenty). I appreciate that most people do not have these direct sources.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    I get the info from my relatives and friends who are right now in Russia and Ukraine, and from my personal experience during my regular visits to Russia
     
    The problem with your approach - in your case - is that you very often write complete nonsense about Ukraine. So are your contacts feeding you disinformation or are you just making things up?

    Here's a recent example, your nonsense is easily verifiable:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-238/#comment-6352459

    You wrote: "Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev."

    Reality:

    Since 1992, 19 metro stations were built in Kiev.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyiv_Metro_stations

    Here is one of them, which opened in 2012:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipodrom_(Kyiv_Metro)

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Ipodrom_station_%28Kiev_metro%29.JPG

    :::::::::::

    Pretty much anything you write about post-Soviet Ukraine is equally unrealistic and nonsensical.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

  305. @LT1488
    @Mr. XYZ

    Russia never saw Central Asian Muslims as allies, they're called Churkas and Mambets in Russia.
    Infact Stalin had even largely deported Chechens and Dagestanis (before Khruschev brought them back in the layte 1950s and early 60s).
    There were plans of deporting all Bashkirs to Kazakhstan in exchange for Russians in Kazakhstan in the 90s.
    As for Tatars who are somewhat assimilated, had Catherine not un-banned Islam, they would have converted to Christianity eventually.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Central Asian Muslims as allies, they’re called Churkas and Mambets in Russia.

    Stop lying!!!!! Stop insulting the great and prosperous Slavic and christian state of “Ukraine”!!!
    The “core” of Bandersation is called Cherkassy – i.e after Cherkas which is what is now referred to as Zaporizhian Cossaks called themselves. OK, so they are not central Asian, but northern Kavkaz, mostly Muslim, still Turkic part. Its the same with the Don Cossacks (Novocherkassk & Starocherkassk) – northern kavkaz regions is where these cossack groups were assembled from.

    The word Churka itself has completely different meaning to Cherka, although how it became associated with Kavkaz and central asians may not be entirely coincidental .

    Seriously though, when we do liberate Banderastan, and if we decided to conduct renaming Cherkassy, will it be classified as :

    Denazification?
    Desovietisation?
    Denegrofication?
    De-islamification?
    De-desovietisation?
    De-khokholisation?
    De-Russification?

    Banderastan is that much of a nutjob state, that schizophrenic, it’s difficult to know which of those listed it classifies as.

    Of course, 404 has 2 completely contradictory but still simultaneous creation theories of its fake national ideology that have centuries between them – Kievan Rus or from the north Kavkaz cossacks. Both contradictory ideologies but still more than enhance the fact that “Ukraine” starts and finishes in the Russian world, and is infinitely linked to it.

    It is valid to ask where the home of 404 is though? Is it Karachay-Cherkessia? the Kuban region? Novgorod? Saint Petersburg? Vienna? Politburo? Anywhere but Ukraine.

  306. Is there some geographic or geohistorical reason that the Ganges is considered sacred? Its bigness? The knock-on effects of the Himalayas?

    Have a hard time understanding why it is sacred if Indian civilization originated in the Punjab. And the Ganges was populated by hunter-gatherers for a longtime.

    AFAIK, Mt. Olympus was near some city-states, even if they were relatively more minor ones. And the distance to the major ones seems quite small comparatively.

  307. German_reader says:
    @Coconuts
    @songbird

    I was listening to AA last night doing commentary on an old Adam Curtis documentary series about this topic:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4-JDqF9p_g

    Replies: @German_reader

    I don’t really understand the logic of that WW2 revisionism which seems to be common among some right-wingers in Britain and the US, tbh it just comes across like an unthinking reaction against the dominant WW2/Holocaust cult. Hitler really was intent on creating a continental bloc under German domination, if Germany had conquered the Soviet Union, it would have been one of the most powerful states in the world; given how British policy for centuries had been founded on preventing the emergence of a European hegemon, conflict was pretty much inevitable. And some of the comments in that video are just dumb (e.g. at 42.00 “Many Poles would have preferred being governed by Germans to Russians”…just stupid, a good case can be made that the People’s republic was one of the best parts of Polish history, certainly infinitely preferable to being a slave people under the likes of Hans Frank…and maybe also to what might happen to Poland in coming decades under “liberal democracy”).
    Of course emotionally I understand where these people are coming from, given what a nightmare the post-1945 order already has become.

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    I think that the argument is that from a foreign policy "realist" perspective, it might have been prudent for the Anglo-French to save the lives of their own troops, allow Hitler to expand into Eastern Europe, and then aggressively sponsor anti-Nazi insurgencies there in order to give Nazi Germany a giant headache for decades to come. But of course, such an approach was unlikely to actually succeed given just how brutally Nazi Germany would have crushed these insurgencies, just like such an approach is unlikely to work in regards to Ukraine right now (purposely letting Russia conquer Ukraine and then aggressively sponsoring an anti-Russian insurgency in Ukraine in order to give Russia a giant headache for decades to come, like gullible people such as Philippe Lemoine actually want to do right now).

    Of course, had the West allowed Hitler to expand eastwards unopposed, especially without subsequently sponsoring any insurgencies in Eastern Europe, then there would have likely been no Holocaust since Hitler likely would not have wanted to destroy his relations with the West by engaging in mass murder. There would have been mass deportations of Jews and Roma, no doubt, but probably not outright mass murder of these two groups.

    As a side note, though, I still think that the Anglo-French and Polish strategies in regards to dealing with Nazi Germany before WWII were very sub-optimal. The optimal strategy would have been (if one was unwilling to simply let Hitler expand eastwards unopposed) to create an Anglo-Franco-Soviet alliance as well as, if necessary, for Poland to simultaneously make concessions in regards to Danzig and, if necessary, the Polish Corridor (other than Gdynia) as well. If war still eventually breaks out, the Anglo-French would have been in a much better position (so, no 1940 Fall of France, and no Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), while any Polish concessions to Nazi Germany could subsequently be declared null and void as a result of Nazi Germany subsequently going for more and thus sparking a new general European war, similar to how the Allies revoked the Munich Agreement in regards to Czechoslovakia/the Sudetenland after WWII started. (Though the Allies can also offer the German generals a status quo ante bellum peace if they will manage to overthrow Hitler and the Nazis quickly enough.) Of course, this would have also meant throwing the Baltic countries under Soviet rule, but they ended up under Soviet rule in real life anyway, so no cost there with the benefit of hindsight. And there would have been either no or a much smaller Holocaust in such a scenario.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Coconuts
    @German_reader


    I don’t really understand the logic of that WW2 revisionism which seems to be common among some right-wingers in Britain and the US, tbh it just comes across like an unthinking reaction against the dominant WW2/Holocaust cult.
     
    This must be mainly what inspires it, as you were saying too much is probably known now about the Nazi regime and its activities for this sort of revision to work anymore.

    The direction Alain de Benoist and the Nouvelle Droite guys took seems more interesting, given they originally came out of the post-war far-right in France but have managed to participate in mainstream debates, and it looks like some of their ideas are gaining irl political influence. Alain de Benoist was 80 recently and Elements magazine made this video about his huge personal library, shelves of books about topics like the 'German Conservative Revolution'. Probably using that as a starting point rather than Nazi stuff is one way they have managed to have more impact:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqVbN4Pd84&t=587s


    A discussion between Academic Agent and Alain de Benoist would probably be good if it could ever happen. There is a good part at around 22 minutes where he talks about how Drieu La Rochelle is important to him.

    Of course emotionally I understand where these people are coming from, given what a nightmare the post-1945 order already has become.
     
    I think the past few years have produced a kind of shock effect, at least in the UK, even around 2016 I still remember the mood being mostly optimism about prosperity and Enlightenment values etc., a hang over from the war on terror/End of History period. Then the discoveries about demographic change, the rapid mainstreaming of Woke, it stimulates these reactions.

    Replies: @A123, @German_reader

  308. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    You probably think I am a paid troll.
     
    Nope. Your comments suggest that you are one of the remaining real people. That’s why I respond to you. I respond to people, including the ones I disagree with, but never respond to “people” I’ve identified as paid trolls.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Talking about “paid trolls” sounds a bit paranoid, sorry. Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this? It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    • Agree: A123, Derer
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.
     
    That’s two viable hypotheses. Mental cases as well as very dumb people can do for free things that a sane and reasonably intelligent person would only do for money. Still, I see no point in reading the ravings of lunatics or the opinions of clinical idiots. So, the practical result is the same: it’s best to skip those comments to save time. After all, we are not sequoias, we don’t live 500 years.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Yevardian

    , @QCIC
    @German_reader

    I think most of the apparent trolls on this Karlin forum/Ukraine topic are sincere freelancers.

    There may be actual paid trolls commenting on some of Ron's articles related to the sordid underbelly of Jewish history. Possibly a few big pharma trolls in the past.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @A123
    @German_reader


    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.
     
    Which applies to JJ/KK? He simultaneously claims to:

    • Have incredible inside access that gives him superior knowledge
    • Not have knowledge and thus cannot answer simple questions

    Is he deliberately trolling? Or, simply a moron? The inconsistencies in his posts are tragically obvious to the point of being comedic.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikel
    @German_reader


    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid
     
    Far more likely, indeed.

    Though some signs of stupidity sometimes make you think it there's some non-human component there, like not remembering who he is answering to, or what his opponent's real positions are. I wish you tried the 'stupid cow' incantation more often, to see if it also works with certain other commenters.

    Somewhat relatedly, I am a member of the BBC "Global Minds" group. Anyone can join, as far as I know. I think I just followed a link where they invited international readers to join the group. Up to now I've only received requests to take part in polls about their services, quality, coverage, etc. But they've just opened a forum where it looks like we can all post messages and I don't see much moderation so far, even though BBC employees respond to us. But currently the topics are limited to the BBC itself.
    , @songbird
    @German_reader


    Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this?
     
    when you control the state apparatus, things don't need to make discrete financial sense. Only political or ideological sense.

    Anyway, am sure there are many rational financial reasons for commenting on this blog, not limited to paid trolling alone, or restricted to promoting Redbox rentals to try to bring one's latest box office bomb into the black. But also including plagiarizing our super-forecasters, and lazily passing it off as one's own analysis at the CIA and other organizations, as well as writers of best-selling fiction lifting the attributes of our endless line-up of original characters.
  309. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN

    Talking about "paid trolls" sounds a bit paranoid, sorry. Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this? It's more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC, @A123, @Mikel, @songbird

    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    That’s two viable hypotheses. Mental cases as well as very dumb people can do for free things that a sane and reasonably intelligent person would only do for money. Still, I see no point in reading the ravings of lunatics or the opinions of clinical idiots. So, the practical result is the same: it’s best to skip those comments to save time. After all, we are not sequoias, we don’t live 500 years.

    • Agree: German_reader
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN


    After all, we are not sequoias, we don’t live 500 years.
     
    WTF?

    Did you also skip the latest Karlin manifesto?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Yevardian
    @AnonfromTN

    I just pop in here a few times a month to check on 4-5 commenters still here. Wonder if Dmitry's gone for good? Two of them are "greyed out", otherwise I'd just refer to their archive like I do for 1-2 interesting commenters on Sailer's threads. Just hide the others so you don't break your scroll wheel.


    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined.
     
    I actually think the silver lining for Germany and much of Europe is actually that things have gotten so bad, a counter-reaction should be inevitable, unless you really are lost. In Australia, NZ, Canada and to a lesser degree the US the migrants creating the demographic change are much better behaved, so "the frog will get boiled" with minimal pushback.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Gerard1234

  310. @A123
    @John Johnson

    Why do you insist on being so deceptive?

    When fewer people were in theaters, the spending in theaters only did indeed go down. However, film marketing spends money in many places. In theater ads is only one of them. You again get the award for true but 100% irrelevant.

    To avoid more evasiveness from you. Here is a more direct question:

    • What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie -- Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    As you claim to have detailed knowledge all things Disney, this should be easy for you. To defend your position that the your movie is highly profitable you need to present something (preferably in this format), including citation to a credible source:


    Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania – February 17, 2023

    Budget: $275 million
    Break Even: $550
    Global Gross: $476 million
    Deficit: -$37 million
     
    Without something on point from you, everyone will continue to accept the movie you keep shilling for lost money.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    When fewer people were in theaters, the spending in theaters only did indeed go down. However, film marketing spends money in many places. In theater ads is only one of them. You again get the award for true but 100% irrelevant.

    It’s not simply in response to fewer people in theaters. Movie companies have changed their overall strategy even as audience levels return. They’re less invested in the blockbuster model where they spend a huge amount on marketing to promote a big budget movie that carries the losers. They’re trying to do more with less.

    You can see this just by looking at new releases. They’re making a lot more lower budget movies with less marketing. They have also cut back on the big paychecks to celebrity actors.

    One of the biggest hits last year was the super mario movie which only had a budget of 100 million. It was highly profitable and didn’t require huge celebrity payouts. As with comic book movies they also made money from merchandising.

    https://deadline.com/2023/04/super-mario-bros-box-office-marketing-mcdonalds-shake-shack-1235320790/

    What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie — Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    I’ve never seen it so how is it my favorite movie? I don’t claim to know the marketing budget but your 100 million is complete conjecture and highly unlikely given the drop in advertising spent by movie companies. We also don’t know how much profit they received from merchandising.

    What we do know is that Disney’s movies are in the black. They are not bleeding money and Kathy still has a job. She would have been fired by now if Comic/Star Wars dorks would simply Red Box these movies. But they can’t resist as they need immediate gratification from fictional stories about flying men in tights and girls battling with laser swords. PACHOO PACHOO. Even during a pandemic we had the comic nerd subset wanting their fcuking star wars movies.

    Guardians 3 was a huge hit so the odds of Kathy being escorted out of the building are nil. As I said before she could take a dump in the middle of a Star Wars movie and the fans would still pay full price to see it. They would take the kids even after reading the review. Then they would complain online that it was crass and even worse didn’t follow the canon.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson



    Production Budget: $200-225 million
    Marketing: $50-100 million

    The movie lost $12 million “best case” and up to $87 million “worst case”. $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel’s books. The source I provided earlier puts it at a loss of $37 million in their model (1). And, it could be much worse if Marvel is not disclosing the entire filming expense.
     

    What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie — Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    As you claim to have detailed knowledge all things Disney, this should be easy for you. To defend your position that the your movie is highly profitable you need to present something (preferably in this format), including citation to a credible source:

     

    I’ve never seen it so how is it my favorite movie? I don’t claim to know the marketing budget but your 100 million is complete conjecture and highly unlikely
     
    If it is not your favorite movie, why are you so emotional about defending it?

    Everyone noticed yet another, failed attempt at deception on your part. I provided a range 50-100. You maliciously cherry picked only part of the information. I have also shared a cited source returning a similar result to corroborate the analysis.

    Everyone notices that you have not provided anything specific to the film in question. If you do not have a industry cite for a marketing estimate -- how could you possibly know I am wrong? You may have noticed that inflation is through the roof.

    The ball remains in your court. You need to provide an industry citation for the expense side of the ledger. Given your deep passion for the movie, it should be an easy task for you. Until then, you are just making stuff up to fit your deeply flawed narrative.




    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  311. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN

    Talking about "paid trolls" sounds a bit paranoid, sorry. Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this? It's more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC, @A123, @Mikel, @songbird

    I think most of the apparent trolls on this Karlin forum/Ukraine topic are sincere freelancers.

    There may be actual paid trolls commenting on some of Ron’s articles related to the sordid underbelly of Jewish history. Possibly a few big pharma trolls in the past.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Paid trolls would not be sent to Unz. The search engines bury this website. Just search without quotes for your own comments. They will prioritize websites that are incomplete or even broken. Unz is on the naughty list. The MSM would never source the articles here.

    Paid trolls go to places like Fox, Yahoo, FB, and Youtube. A much better ROI.

    Scott Ritter's youtube videos for example have a lot of comments that are ESL/bot like. Stuff like "I'm American and I think my other Americans should listen to you".

    Anyone who is obsessed over "paid trolls" at Unz should probably reassess some of their assumptions. The more likely answer is that they are uncomfortable with being challenged.

    Replies: @Beckow

  312. German_reader says:

    https://thecritic.co.uk/britains-twilight-war/

    At the start of the year, the Royal Navy was forced to advertise on LinkedIn to hire a Rear-Admiral for its nuclear fleet — an utterly bizarre situation in an institution where recruitment is supposed to take place by promotion through the ranks. Unless Mr Shapps wants to volunteer to man the oars himself and row an aircraft carrier, first to the Persian Gulf to deal with Iran and then to the South Pacific to deal with China and North Korea, it is not clear how Britain is going to partake in his incipient world war.

    Too bad I don’t have a LinkedIn account, missed my chance to become an admiral.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    You're too straight to become a rear admiral lol! :D ;)

  313. @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.
     
    That’s two viable hypotheses. Mental cases as well as very dumb people can do for free things that a sane and reasonably intelligent person would only do for money. Still, I see no point in reading the ravings of lunatics or the opinions of clinical idiots. So, the practical result is the same: it’s best to skip those comments to save time. After all, we are not sequoias, we don’t live 500 years.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Yevardian

    After all, we are not sequoias, we don’t live 500 years.

    WTF?

    Did you also skip the latest Karlin manifesto?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Did you also skip the latest Karlin manifesto?
     
    Yes, I did. Read only a few sentences. From my POW, in falls into “ravings of lunatics” category. I am not a psychiatrist, so this is not my field.
  314. This man could take Singh’s sword away from him in 20 seconds.

    Also he has a better beard.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    But does he believe in TND?

  315. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    There is a pretty big mass of lit on this--Tragedy and Hope, Cecil Rhodes' round table and the Rhodes will, &c. These people loved Britania ruling an empire where the sun never set. I love the map of all the countries the British never invaded which is a small set of all the countries in existence.

    They don't care about Britain or the United States any more. They just want to have convenient luxury rooms at Bilderberg and Davos and Bohemian Grove. If the Chinese and the Russians ever get serious they are going to need a fancy resort meeting for James Bond villains.

    Replies: @Coconuts, @S

    I love the map of all the countries the British never invaded which is a small set of all the countries in existence.

    Excellent point.

    And the British cared deeply about them, too, even though they didn’t have the benefit of being a formal part of the Empire. It’s why the British had to fight Germany in WWI, to protect all the small nations and little peoples of the world (ie Belgium) from imperial might, don’t you know! 😉

    [Now, don’t even think of saying anything about little Ireland kept locked up and out of sight in the castle attic for centuries. That would be below the belt and certainly not cricket!]

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @S

    Man, that’s Russian-level sarcasm. Bravo!

    , @Coconuts
    @S


    And the British cared deeply about them, too, even though they didn’t have the benefit of being a formal part of the Empire.
     
    So is this expressing solidarity with the decolonisation movement?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wno-_AhjsaU&t=85s

    The decolonisation guys in the video explain that Rhodes was a bad man because he took land from less developed peoples, gave it to white Anglos and Boers and wanted to maintain racial segregation there.

    Replies: @German_reader

  316. @John Johnson
    @A123

    When fewer people were in theaters, the spending in theaters only did indeed go down. However, film marketing spends money in many places. In theater ads is only one of them. You again get the award for true but 100% irrelevant.

    It's not simply in response to fewer people in theaters. Movie companies have changed their overall strategy even as audience levels return. They're less invested in the blockbuster model where they spend a huge amount on marketing to promote a big budget movie that carries the losers. They're trying to do more with less.

    You can see this just by looking at new releases. They're making a lot more lower budget movies with less marketing. They have also cut back on the big paychecks to celebrity actors.

    One of the biggest hits last year was the super mario movie which only had a budget of 100 million. It was highly profitable and didn't require huge celebrity payouts. As with comic book movies they also made money from merchandising.

    https://deadline.com/2023/04/super-mario-bros-box-office-marketing-mcdonalds-shake-shack-1235320790/

    What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie — Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    I've never seen it so how is it my favorite movie? I don't claim to know the marketing budget but your 100 million is complete conjecture and highly unlikely given the drop in advertising spent by movie companies. We also don't know how much profit they received from merchandising.

    What we do know is that Disney's movies are in the black. They are not bleeding money and Kathy still has a job. She would have been fired by now if Comic/Star Wars dorks would simply Red Box these movies. But they can't resist as they need immediate gratification from fictional stories about flying men in tights and girls battling with laser swords. PACHOO PACHOO. Even during a pandemic we had the comic nerd subset wanting their fcuking star wars movies.

    Guardians 3 was a huge hit so the odds of Kathy being escorted out of the building are nil. As I said before she could take a dump in the middle of a Star Wars movie and the fans would still pay full price to see it. They would take the kids even after reading the review. Then they would complain online that it was crass and even worse didn't follow the canon.

    Replies: @A123

    Production Budget: $200-225 million
    Marketing: $50-100 million

    The movie lost $12 million “best case” and up to $87 million “worst case”. $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel’s books. The source I provided earlier puts it at a loss of $37 million in their model (1). And, it could be much worse if Marvel is not disclosing the entire filming expense.

    What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie — Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    As you claim to have detailed knowledge all things Disney, this should be easy for you. To defend your position that the your movie is highly profitable you need to present something (preferably in this format), including citation to a credible source:

    I’ve never seen it so how is it my favorite movie? I don’t claim to know the marketing budget but your 100 million is complete conjecture and highly unlikely

    If it is not your favorite movie, why are you so emotional about defending it?

    Everyone noticed yet another, failed attempt at deception on your part. I provided a range 50-100. You maliciously cherry picked only part of the information. I have also shared a cited source returning a similar result to corroborate the analysis.

    Everyone notices that you have not provided anything specific to the film in question. If you do not have a industry cite for a marketing estimate — how could you possibly know I am wrong? You may have noticed that inflation is through the roof.

    The ball remains in your court. You need to provide an industry citation for the expense side of the ledger. Given your deep passion for the movie, it should be an easy task for you. Until then, you are just making stuff up to fit your deeply flawed narrative.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    If it is not your favorite movie, why are you so emotional about defending it?

    I rarely watch mainstream movies and unlike you I'm not attached to comic book characters that were intended for children. You cited it as a flop and I used it as an example of how you are wrong about Disney bleeding money. It most likely made a profit and if it broke even it would be covered by Guardians profit. Meaning their movie department is making money even if you believe it lost.

    That is how the movie companies operate. The winners cover the losers and Disney has a working business model that returns a profit.

    I'm sorry if they don't give a flying f-ck about the nerds who complain and then hand over their money.

    Everyone noticed yet another, failed attempt at deception on your part. I provided a range 50-100.

    You don't have a source for that range. Providing someone else's unsourced conjecture is not a source.

    Your thesis that "Disney is bleeding over Woke movies" is demonstrably false and I don't know why you keep trying to support it. I don't like Woke movies or the latest Star Wars trash but they have a working business model. I don't like tobacco companies but I'm not going to deny that they make a profit just because I don't like them.

    I sourced how much profit there is from Star Wars merchandising. Box Office sales are only part of the equation. They sell Wakanda Happy meals, clothes, chips, toys, etc. When they released Black Panther every section of Walmart had some type of Black Panther merchandise. I remember even seeing Black Panther stuff in the kitchen utensils section. Minecraft made more money from merchandising than the actual game. Disney knows what they are doing. Kathy will stop making lousy movies when she gets bored. Comic book dorks and parents buying Wakanda lunch boxes for her kids will keep sending her money. Accept it and move on.

    Maybe White men should go back to building things instead of crying over fictional characters:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efo26lgbeFA

    Replies: @A123

  317. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN


    After all, we are not sequoias, we don’t live 500 years.
     
    WTF?

    Did you also skip the latest Karlin manifesto?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Did you also skip the latest Karlin manifesto?

    Yes, I did. Read only a few sentences. From my POW, in falls into “ravings of lunatics” category. I am not a psychiatrist, so this is not my field.

  318. @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I love the map of all the countries the British never invaded which is a small set of all the countries in existence.
     
    Excellent point.

    And the British cared deeply about them, too, even though they didn't have the benefit of being a formal part of the Empire. It's why the British had to fight Germany in WWI, to protect all the small nations and little peoples of the world (ie Belgium) from imperial might, don't you know! ;-)

    [Now, don't even think of saying anything about little Ireland kept locked up and out of sight in the castle attic for centuries. That would be below the belt and certainly not cricket!]

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Coconuts

    Man, that’s Russian-level sarcasm. Bravo!

    • Thanks: S
  319. Former DPR leader Igor Girking gets 4 years in prison for criticizing Putin.
    https://news.yahoo.com/russia-jails-nationalist-critic-girkin-114146585.html

    DPR leaders in 2014:
    Let’s split from the country and dedicate ourselves to a psychopathic dwarf and his totalitarian state.

    That sounds like someone we can trust.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    He's a political prisoner, no doubt. But also a nasty figure. Navalny previously acknowledged Girkin's political persecution at Putin's hands while also supporting putting him on trial in an international court for the downing of that Dutch plane (MH17) back in 2014.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  320. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Would Russian Detroits really be worse than Chechnya when it was still busy fighting for independence against Russia?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    TBH, though, I was hoping for positive selection for Sub-Saharan Africans willing to convert to Russian Orthodoxy. But am I being too optimistic here?

  321. @A123
    @John Johnson



    Production Budget: $200-225 million
    Marketing: $50-100 million

    The movie lost $12 million “best case” and up to $87 million “worst case”. $50 million would be a solid middle estimate as we do not get to see inside Marvel’s books. The source I provided earlier puts it at a loss of $37 million in their model (1). And, it could be much worse if Marvel is not disclosing the entire filming expense.
     

    What was the total budget/expense (production budget + marketing) for your favorite movie — Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

    As you claim to have detailed knowledge all things Disney, this should be easy for you. To defend your position that the your movie is highly profitable you need to present something (preferably in this format), including citation to a credible source:

     

    I’ve never seen it so how is it my favorite movie? I don’t claim to know the marketing budget but your 100 million is complete conjecture and highly unlikely
     
    If it is not your favorite movie, why are you so emotional about defending it?

    Everyone noticed yet another, failed attempt at deception on your part. I provided a range 50-100. You maliciously cherry picked only part of the information. I have also shared a cited source returning a similar result to corroborate the analysis.

    Everyone notices that you have not provided anything specific to the film in question. If you do not have a industry cite for a marketing estimate -- how could you possibly know I am wrong? You may have noticed that inflation is through the roof.

    The ball remains in your court. You need to provide an industry citation for the expense side of the ledger. Given your deep passion for the movie, it should be an easy task for you. Until then, you are just making stuff up to fit your deeply flawed narrative.




    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    If it is not your favorite movie, why are you so emotional about defending it?

    I rarely watch mainstream movies and unlike you I’m not attached to comic book characters that were intended for children. You cited it as a flop and I used it as an example of how you are wrong about Disney bleeding money. It most likely made a profit and if it broke even it would be covered by Guardians profit. Meaning their movie department is making money even if you believe it lost.

    That is how the movie companies operate. The winners cover the losers and Disney has a working business model that returns a profit.

    I’m sorry if they don’t give a flying f-ck about the nerds who complain and then hand over their money.

    Everyone noticed yet another, failed attempt at deception on your part. I provided a range 50-100.

    You don’t have a source for that range. Providing someone else’s unsourced conjecture is not a source.

    Your thesis that “Disney is bleeding over Woke movies” is demonstrably false and I don’t know why you keep trying to support it. I don’t like Woke movies or the latest Star Wars trash but they have a working business model. I don’t like tobacco companies but I’m not going to deny that they make a profit just because I don’t like them.

    I sourced how much profit there is from Star Wars merchandising. Box Office sales are only part of the equation. They sell Wakanda Happy meals, clothes, chips, toys, etc. When they released Black Panther every section of Walmart had some type of Black Panther merchandise. I remember even seeing Black Panther stuff in the kitchen utensils section. Minecraft made more money from merchandising than the actual game. Disney knows what they are doing. Kathy will stop making lousy movies when she gets bored. Comic book dorks and parents buying Wakanda lunch boxes for her kids will keep sending her money. Accept it and move on.

    Maybe White men should go back to building things instead of crying over fictional characters:

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson



    I have also shared a cited source returning a similar result to corroborate the analysis.
     

    Everyone noticed yet another, failed attempt at deception on your part. I provided a range 50-100.
     
    You don’t have a source for that range.
     
    I kindly refer the gentleman to the source I provided some moments ago. It is not an exact match but our results are in the same range.

    You are the one without a source. You need to provide citation from a credible industry expert providing analysis specifically about Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania who shares; Either, marketing cost as a line item; Or a total expense that includes marketing. You claim to have deep knowledge of Disney's business model. This should be incredibly easy for you to do.

    Until you come up with numbers specific to this film, no one will believe you wild claims that it made money. Everyone (except you) knows it did not.

    PEACE 😇

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=va_Oz_MCGR8

  322. @QCIC
    @German_reader

    I think most of the apparent trolls on this Karlin forum/Ukraine topic are sincere freelancers.

    There may be actual paid trolls commenting on some of Ron's articles related to the sordid underbelly of Jewish history. Possibly a few big pharma trolls in the past.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Paid trolls would not be sent to Unz. The search engines bury this website. Just search without quotes for your own comments. They will prioritize websites that are incomplete or even broken. Unz is on the naughty list. The MSM would never source the articles here.

    Paid trolls go to places like Fox, Yahoo, FB, and Youtube. A much better ROI.

    Scott Ritter’s youtube videos for example have a lot of comments that are ESL/bot like. Stuff like “I’m American and I think my other Americans should listen to you”.

    Anyone who is obsessed over “paid trolls” at Unz should probably reassess some of their assumptions. The more likely answer is that they are uncomfortable with being challenged.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    Unz is also blocked in some places, when one travels it is amusing to map out the world based on the level of control...who is afraid of "words"?

    Trolling, in my humble view, is too hard to define...either one makes the definition narrow and then almost nothing qualifies, or it is so broad that pretty much everything can be trolling. Are Guardian or NY Times often bizarre articles based on cherrypicking, outright lying and preaching non-existent virtues as the only truth also trolling?

    Many of our fellow humans alternate between pronoia and paranoia...the world is too much for them and they shouldn't be on Unz. For the rest of us, for heaven's sake apply some critical thinking...if people do, I don't care if they "troll".

  323. @German_reader
    @Coconuts

    I don't really understand the logic of that WW2 revisionism which seems to be common among some right-wingers in Britain and the US, tbh it just comes across like an unthinking reaction against the dominant WW2/Holocaust cult. Hitler really was intent on creating a continental bloc under German domination, if Germany had conquered the Soviet Union, it would have been one of the most powerful states in the world; given how British policy for centuries had been founded on preventing the emergence of a European hegemon, conflict was pretty much inevitable. And some of the comments in that video are just dumb (e.g. at 42.00 "Many Poles would have preferred being governed by Germans to Russians"...just stupid, a good case can be made that the People's republic was one of the best parts of Polish history, certainly infinitely preferable to being a slave people under the likes of Hans Frank...and maybe also to what might happen to Poland in coming decades under "liberal democracy").
    Of course emotionally I understand where these people are coming from, given what a nightmare the post-1945 order already has become.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

    I think that the argument is that from a foreign policy “realist” perspective, it might have been prudent for the Anglo-French to save the lives of their own troops, allow Hitler to expand into Eastern Europe, and then aggressively sponsor anti-Nazi insurgencies there in order to give Nazi Germany a giant headache for decades to come. But of course, such an approach was unlikely to actually succeed given just how brutally Nazi Germany would have crushed these insurgencies, just like such an approach is unlikely to work in regards to Ukraine right now (purposely letting Russia conquer Ukraine and then aggressively sponsoring an anti-Russian insurgency in Ukraine in order to give Russia a giant headache for decades to come, like gullible people such as Philippe Lemoine actually want to do right now).

    Of course, had the West allowed Hitler to expand eastwards unopposed, especially without subsequently sponsoring any insurgencies in Eastern Europe, then there would have likely been no Holocaust since Hitler likely would not have wanted to destroy his relations with the West by engaging in mass murder. There would have been mass deportations of Jews and Roma, no doubt, but probably not outright mass murder of these two groups.

    As a side note, though, I still think that the Anglo-French and Polish strategies in regards to dealing with Nazi Germany before WWII were very sub-optimal. The optimal strategy would have been (if one was unwilling to simply let Hitler expand eastwards unopposed) to create an Anglo-Franco-Soviet alliance as well as, if necessary, for Poland to simultaneously make concessions in regards to Danzig and, if necessary, the Polish Corridor (other than Gdynia) as well. If war still eventually breaks out, the Anglo-French would have been in a much better position (so, no 1940 Fall of France, and no Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), while any Polish concessions to Nazi Germany could subsequently be declared null and void as a result of Nazi Germany subsequently going for more and thus sparking a new general European war, similar to how the Allies revoked the Munich Agreement in regards to Czechoslovakia/the Sudetenland after WWII started. (Though the Allies can also offer the German generals a status quo ante bellum peace if they will manage to overthrow Hitler and the Nazis quickly enough.) Of course, this would have also meant throwing the Baltic countries under Soviet rule, but they ended up under Soviet rule in real life anyway, so no cost there with the benefit of hindsight. And there would have been either no or a much smaller Holocaust in such a scenario.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Mr. XYZ

    tl; dr. Really no point to all those WW2 discussions anymore, it's a frivolous pursuit by now. My previous comment was meant to imply that those revisionists are merely the mirror image of the hegemonic "antifascist" culture of the West, imo they're not breaking the spell at all. But of course you just saw an occasion to write yet another long-winded alt-history post, which doesn't really interest me.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    To elaborate on what I mean here, when Russia gives people convicted of terrorism 27 years in prison, there would have probably been not all that many Ukrainians who would have actually been willing to engage in terrorism had Russia successfully conquered all of Ukraine:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68095875

    The UK might have treated Irish terrorists with relative kid gloves. But the UK has a much more developed rule-of-law system relative to Russia, one that was successfully built over the course of many centuries.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  324. @German_reader
    https://thecritic.co.uk/britains-twilight-war/

    At the start of the year, the Royal Navy was forced to advertise on LinkedIn to hire a Rear-Admiral for its nuclear fleet — an utterly bizarre situation in an institution where recruitment is supposed to take place by promotion through the ranks. Unless Mr Shapps wants to volunteer to man the oars himself and row an aircraft carrier, first to the Persian Gulf to deal with Iran and then to the South Pacific to deal with China and North Korea, it is not clear how Britain is going to partake in his incipient world war.
     
    Too bad I don't have a LinkedIn account, missed my chance to become an admiral.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    You’re too straight to become a rear admiral lol! 😀 😉

  325. @Beckow
    @AP

    You try to deceive by silly inaccurate numbers. Here are the latest life expectancies:

    USA 77
    USA white 77.4
    US Hispanic 77.9
    Slovakia 78.14
    Czechia 80

    You are clearly lagging. And Hispanics outlive the whites because they have much younger average age - life expectancy goes up with time, so if you have a younger population the projected expectancy will be higher. Are you too stupid to know that?

    LA is a basically a dysfunctional sh..hole and the white libs love Hispanics (maybe even "Lusitanians"). Period. Our kids are healthier, smarter, better looking, taller, much higher achieving. You can hide in your Anglo "Pissa" tests (who cares?), but they reflect nothing about the real life.

    Go to LA and then go to Prague or Bratislava and tell us which society has higher overall IQ, better people, more pleasant life. It only reflects on your own poor reasoning skills that you defend the taco bottom-feeding culture. Sure, one can learn how to live with them - they are certainly better than the libtards - but it is a step down.

    By the way, Ukraine has a 72 year average life expectancy. What is that all about?

    Regarding the pictures, there are nice ladies in every group, you can go to a Papua tribe and find one or two jungle beauties. That's the way it works, the missionaries were not all idiots...:)

    (But, seriously, I am still getting over you sticking some elderly Latin dude's picture with a mustache in there...ok, I know even the pope now, sure, but could you not?)

    Replies: @AP, @Derer

    You are responding to a psychopath that is damaged beyond repair. The condition created by his alcoholic mother.

  326. German_reader says:
    @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    I think that the argument is that from a foreign policy "realist" perspective, it might have been prudent for the Anglo-French to save the lives of their own troops, allow Hitler to expand into Eastern Europe, and then aggressively sponsor anti-Nazi insurgencies there in order to give Nazi Germany a giant headache for decades to come. But of course, such an approach was unlikely to actually succeed given just how brutally Nazi Germany would have crushed these insurgencies, just like such an approach is unlikely to work in regards to Ukraine right now (purposely letting Russia conquer Ukraine and then aggressively sponsoring an anti-Russian insurgency in Ukraine in order to give Russia a giant headache for decades to come, like gullible people such as Philippe Lemoine actually want to do right now).

    Of course, had the West allowed Hitler to expand eastwards unopposed, especially without subsequently sponsoring any insurgencies in Eastern Europe, then there would have likely been no Holocaust since Hitler likely would not have wanted to destroy his relations with the West by engaging in mass murder. There would have been mass deportations of Jews and Roma, no doubt, but probably not outright mass murder of these two groups.

    As a side note, though, I still think that the Anglo-French and Polish strategies in regards to dealing with Nazi Germany before WWII were very sub-optimal. The optimal strategy would have been (if one was unwilling to simply let Hitler expand eastwards unopposed) to create an Anglo-Franco-Soviet alliance as well as, if necessary, for Poland to simultaneously make concessions in regards to Danzig and, if necessary, the Polish Corridor (other than Gdynia) as well. If war still eventually breaks out, the Anglo-French would have been in a much better position (so, no 1940 Fall of France, and no Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), while any Polish concessions to Nazi Germany could subsequently be declared null and void as a result of Nazi Germany subsequently going for more and thus sparking a new general European war, similar to how the Allies revoked the Munich Agreement in regards to Czechoslovakia/the Sudetenland after WWII started. (Though the Allies can also offer the German generals a status quo ante bellum peace if they will manage to overthrow Hitler and the Nazis quickly enough.) Of course, this would have also meant throwing the Baltic countries under Soviet rule, but they ended up under Soviet rule in real life anyway, so no cost there with the benefit of hindsight. And there would have been either no or a much smaller Holocaust in such a scenario.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ

    tl; dr. Really no point to all those WW2 discussions anymore, it’s a frivolous pursuit by now. My previous comment was meant to imply that those revisionists are merely the mirror image of the hegemonic “antifascist” culture of the West, imo they’re not breaking the spell at all. But of course you just saw an occasion to write yet another long-winded alt-history post, which doesn’t really interest me.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    Frankly, I think that might attract people to WWII revisionism is the idea that the multiculturalism idea might not have triumphed in the West had the Nazis won WWII. A Nazi victory would have made ethno-nationalism, especially the extremely Based kind, much more respectable throughout the world, I would suspect. When the Nazis lost, ethno-nationalism, other than for victim groups such as Jews*, significantly fell out of style in the West.

    *And even Jews have a limit to what is allowed. After all, Western Jews have been vehemently hostile towards any plans to repeal the Grandchild Clause of Israel's Law of Return, plans that appear to have thankfully been shelved indefinitely after the gigantic October 7, 2023 Hamas terrorist attack on Israel.

  327. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Paid trolls would not be sent to Unz. The search engines bury this website. Just search without quotes for your own comments. They will prioritize websites that are incomplete or even broken. Unz is on the naughty list. The MSM would never source the articles here.

    Paid trolls go to places like Fox, Yahoo, FB, and Youtube. A much better ROI.

    Scott Ritter's youtube videos for example have a lot of comments that are ESL/bot like. Stuff like "I'm American and I think my other Americans should listen to you".

    Anyone who is obsessed over "paid trolls" at Unz should probably reassess some of their assumptions. The more likely answer is that they are uncomfortable with being challenged.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Unz is also blocked in some places, when one travels it is amusing to map out the world based on the level of control…who is afraid of “words”?

    Trolling, in my humble view, is too hard to define…either one makes the definition narrow and then almost nothing qualifies, or it is so broad that pretty much everything can be trolling. Are Guardian or NY Times often bizarre articles based on cherrypicking, outright lying and preaching non-existent virtues as the only truth also trolling?

    Many of our fellow humans alternate between pronoia and paranoia…the world is too much for them and they shouldn’t be on Unz. For the rest of us, for heaven’s sake apply some critical thinking…if people do, I don’t care if they “troll”.

  328. @John Johnson
    @A123

    If it is not your favorite movie, why are you so emotional about defending it?

    I rarely watch mainstream movies and unlike you I'm not attached to comic book characters that were intended for children. You cited it as a flop and I used it as an example of how you are wrong about Disney bleeding money. It most likely made a profit and if it broke even it would be covered by Guardians profit. Meaning their movie department is making money even if you believe it lost.

    That is how the movie companies operate. The winners cover the losers and Disney has a working business model that returns a profit.

    I'm sorry if they don't give a flying f-ck about the nerds who complain and then hand over their money.

    Everyone noticed yet another, failed attempt at deception on your part. I provided a range 50-100.

    You don't have a source for that range. Providing someone else's unsourced conjecture is not a source.

    Your thesis that "Disney is bleeding over Woke movies" is demonstrably false and I don't know why you keep trying to support it. I don't like Woke movies or the latest Star Wars trash but they have a working business model. I don't like tobacco companies but I'm not going to deny that they make a profit just because I don't like them.

    I sourced how much profit there is from Star Wars merchandising. Box Office sales are only part of the equation. They sell Wakanda Happy meals, clothes, chips, toys, etc. When they released Black Panther every section of Walmart had some type of Black Panther merchandise. I remember even seeing Black Panther stuff in the kitchen utensils section. Minecraft made more money from merchandising than the actual game. Disney knows what they are doing. Kathy will stop making lousy movies when she gets bored. Comic book dorks and parents buying Wakanda lunch boxes for her kids will keep sending her money. Accept it and move on.

    Maybe White men should go back to building things instead of crying over fictional characters:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efo26lgbeFA

    Replies: @A123

    I have also shared a cited source returning a similar result to corroborate the analysis.

    Everyone noticed yet another, failed attempt at deception on your part. I provided a range 50-100.

    You don’t have a source for that range.

    I kindly refer the gentleman to the source I provided some moments ago. It is not an exact match but our results are in the same range.

    You are the one without a source. You need to provide citation from a credible industry expert providing analysis specifically about Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania who shares; Either, marketing cost as a line item; Or a total expense that includes marketing. You claim to have deep knowledge of Disney’s business model. This should be incredibly easy for you to do.

    Until you come up with numbers specific to this film, no one will believe you wild claims that it made money. Everyone (except you) knows it did not.

    PEACE 😇

  329. Battle of the Nations
    Italy Germany
    Belarus United States

    [MORE]

    The fans in the stands did not have to look at the Belarus flag but they did have to listen to Sabalenka’s big fat mouth. You tube viewers can click on mute!

  330. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN

    Talking about "paid trolls" sounds a bit paranoid, sorry. Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this? It's more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC, @A123, @Mikel, @songbird

    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    Which applies to JJ/KK? He simultaneously claims to:

    • Have incredible inside access that gives him superior knowledge
    • Not have knowledge and thus cannot answer simple questions

    Is he deliberately trolling? Or, simply a moron? The inconsistencies in his posts are tragically obvious to the point of being comedic.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    JJ:


    • Have incredible inside access that gives him superior knowledge
    • Not have knowledge and thus cannot answer simple questions
     
    99% of the time, JJ either does or is able to provide links that support his written views here. When he can't provide such backing, he honestly admits this right up front.

    You on the other hand, are the charlatan that runs around here and dishonestly tries to paint Zelensly as being some sort of a Nazi based on photos of various members of the Azov batallion, without Zelensky even pictured within the photo.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/YS152rD3WmUFQZDSPK3wemyuSMY=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/GettyImages-74105434-dc8e559ee6194b15a4b186408227338d.jpg
    I'm using kremlnstoogeA123's favorite technique (guilt by no association) and claiming that he's a flake and mental retard based on this photo. :-)

  331. @Emil Nikola Richard
    This man could take Singh's sword away from him in 20 seconds.

    Also he has a better beard.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF6YLLSNl6k

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    But does he believe in TND?

  332. @German_reader
    @Mr. XYZ

    tl; dr. Really no point to all those WW2 discussions anymore, it's a frivolous pursuit by now. My previous comment was meant to imply that those revisionists are merely the mirror image of the hegemonic "antifascist" culture of the West, imo they're not breaking the spell at all. But of course you just saw an occasion to write yet another long-winded alt-history post, which doesn't really interest me.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Frankly, I think that might attract people to WWII revisionism is the idea that the multiculturalism idea might not have triumphed in the West had the Nazis won WWII. A Nazi victory would have made ethno-nationalism, especially the extremely Based kind, much more respectable throughout the world, I would suspect. When the Nazis lost, ethno-nationalism, other than for victim groups such as Jews*, significantly fell out of style in the West.

    *And even Jews have a limit to what is allowed. After all, Western Jews have been vehemently hostile towards any plans to repeal the Grandchild Clause of Israel’s Law of Return, plans that appear to have thankfully been shelved indefinitely after the gigantic October 7, 2023 Hamas terrorist attack on Israel.

  333. @John Johnson
    Former DPR leader Igor Girking gets 4 years in prison for criticizing Putin.
    https://news.yahoo.com/russia-jails-nationalist-critic-girkin-114146585.html

    DPR leaders in 2014:
    Let's split from the country and dedicate ourselves to a psychopathic dwarf and his totalitarian state.

    That sounds like someone we can trust.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    He’s a political prisoner, no doubt. But also a nasty figure. Navalny previously acknowledged Girkin’s political persecution at Putin’s hands while also supporting putting him on trial in an international court for the downing of that Dutch plane (MH17) back in 2014.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    He’s a political prisoner, no doubt. But also a nasty figure. Navalny previously acknowledged Girkin’s political persecution at Putin’s hands while also supporting putting him on trial in an international court for the downing of that Dutch plane (MH17) back in 2014.

    A political prisoner that deserves life in prison anyways.

    A scumbag but he has balls for criticizing Putin and I hope his fellow Russians see what can happen to a former ally.

    But it should be noted that his criticisms are over how the war has been handled and not the war itself.

    Girkin wanted a larger force from the onset with mass conscription when it was clear that they were being pushed back. Send all reserves instead of trying to crack one point with Wagner to avoid public backlash over conscription. Fortunately the dwarf ignored him and bet on Prigozhin.

    I thought Girkin was correct from a strategic point of view. It made more sense to create a massive force to push on the entire front. But that option is now out and Girkin earned himself a plastic cage.

    Well done dwarf.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  334. Off-topic, but re: Israel: I’m strongly inclined to support Benny Gantz and his party in the next Israeli elections, but of course I can’t actually vote for Israeli elections since I’m an Israeli citizen who lives abroad. Gantz is pro-Grandchild Clause, more likely to support some kind of Palestinian state, and more likely to have good relations with the West relative to Netanyahu.

  335. @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I love the map of all the countries the British never invaded which is a small set of all the countries in existence.
     
    Excellent point.

    And the British cared deeply about them, too, even though they didn't have the benefit of being a formal part of the Empire. It's why the British had to fight Germany in WWI, to protect all the small nations and little peoples of the world (ie Belgium) from imperial might, don't you know! ;-)

    [Now, don't even think of saying anything about little Ireland kept locked up and out of sight in the castle attic for centuries. That would be below the belt and certainly not cricket!]

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Coconuts

    And the British cared deeply about them, too, even though they didn’t have the benefit of being a formal part of the Empire.

    So is this expressing solidarity with the decolonisation movement?

    The decolonisation guys in the video explain that Rhodes was a bad man because he took land from less developed peoples, gave it to white Anglos and Boers and wanted to maintain racial segregation there.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Coconuts

    Have you seen this:
    https://pimlicojournal.substack.com/p/history-reclaimed

    Replies: @Coconuts

  336. @Sher Singh
    Opinion of Shia Islam improves immensely:

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777361459130138627/1199104108842455140/image.png

    Replies: @Yevardian, @Yevardian, @songbird

    Not closely related, but I have often wondered if there are any unpublished ethnographic writings among the Timbuktu manuscripts.

    I wouldn’t really trust them to release them, or necessarily preserve them. Probably, they would do the accounting by saying that they were “destroyed” in the Mali War.

  337. @Coconuts
    @S


    And the British cared deeply about them, too, even though they didn’t have the benefit of being a formal part of the Empire.
     
    So is this expressing solidarity with the decolonisation movement?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wno-_AhjsaU&t=85s

    The decolonisation guys in the video explain that Rhodes was a bad man because he took land from less developed peoples, gave it to white Anglos and Boers and wanted to maintain racial segregation there.

    Replies: @German_reader

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @German_reader

    Thanks for that one. I have seen some of his other stuff but not that, it looks like it is worth reading carefully. From what I have read so far the general idea about the anti-woke/decolonisation movement being used mainly to promote the global liberalism project seems accurate.

  338. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN

    Talking about "paid trolls" sounds a bit paranoid, sorry. Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this? It's more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC, @A123, @Mikel, @songbird

    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid

    Far more likely, indeed.

    Though some signs of stupidity sometimes make you think it there’s some non-human component there, like not remembering who he is answering to, or what his opponent’s real positions are. I wish you tried the ‘stupid cow’ incantation more often, to see if it also works with certain other commenters.

    Somewhat relatedly, I am a member of the BBC “Global Minds” group. Anyone can join, as far as I know. I think I just followed a link where they invited international readers to join the group. Up to now I’ve only received requests to take part in polls about their services, quality, coverage, etc. But they’ve just opened a forum where it looks like we can all post messages and I don’t see much moderation so far, even though BBC employees respond to us. But currently the topics are limited to the BBC itself.

  339. @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    I think that the argument is that from a foreign policy "realist" perspective, it might have been prudent for the Anglo-French to save the lives of their own troops, allow Hitler to expand into Eastern Europe, and then aggressively sponsor anti-Nazi insurgencies there in order to give Nazi Germany a giant headache for decades to come. But of course, such an approach was unlikely to actually succeed given just how brutally Nazi Germany would have crushed these insurgencies, just like such an approach is unlikely to work in regards to Ukraine right now (purposely letting Russia conquer Ukraine and then aggressively sponsoring an anti-Russian insurgency in Ukraine in order to give Russia a giant headache for decades to come, like gullible people such as Philippe Lemoine actually want to do right now).

    Of course, had the West allowed Hitler to expand eastwards unopposed, especially without subsequently sponsoring any insurgencies in Eastern Europe, then there would have likely been no Holocaust since Hitler likely would not have wanted to destroy his relations with the West by engaging in mass murder. There would have been mass deportations of Jews and Roma, no doubt, but probably not outright mass murder of these two groups.

    As a side note, though, I still think that the Anglo-French and Polish strategies in regards to dealing with Nazi Germany before WWII were very sub-optimal. The optimal strategy would have been (if one was unwilling to simply let Hitler expand eastwards unopposed) to create an Anglo-Franco-Soviet alliance as well as, if necessary, for Poland to simultaneously make concessions in regards to Danzig and, if necessary, the Polish Corridor (other than Gdynia) as well. If war still eventually breaks out, the Anglo-French would have been in a much better position (so, no 1940 Fall of France, and no Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), while any Polish concessions to Nazi Germany could subsequently be declared null and void as a result of Nazi Germany subsequently going for more and thus sparking a new general European war, similar to how the Allies revoked the Munich Agreement in regards to Czechoslovakia/the Sudetenland after WWII started. (Though the Allies can also offer the German generals a status quo ante bellum peace if they will manage to overthrow Hitler and the Nazis quickly enough.) Of course, this would have also meant throwing the Baltic countries under Soviet rule, but they ended up under Soviet rule in real life anyway, so no cost there with the benefit of hindsight. And there would have been either no or a much smaller Holocaust in such a scenario.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ

    To elaborate on what I mean here, when Russia gives people convicted of terrorism 27 years in prison, there would have probably been not all that many Ukrainians who would have actually been willing to engage in terrorism had Russia successfully conquered all of Ukraine:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68095875

    The UK might have treated Irish terrorists with relative kid gloves. But the UK has a much more developed rule-of-law system relative to Russia, one that was successfully built over the course of many centuries.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ


    To elaborate on what I mean here, when Russia gives people convicted of terrorism 27 years in prison, there would have probably been not all that many Ukrainians who would have actually been willing to engage in terrorism had Russia successfully conquered all of Ukraine:

     

    Extraordinarily massive Ukrainian emigration would be very plausible and indeed probably very likely, however.
  340. @songbird
    @sudden death

    Romans also maintained a base nearby for quite a while:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farasan_Islands

    Though, personally, I would like the US to get out of the ME.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    They got everywhere.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Wokechoke

    Some of the coins got pretty far.

    And while I am back on the topic, it may be noteworthy how many of the Roman elite derived vast incomes from rental properties within the city. (Though not limited to those alone).

    , @S
    @Wokechoke


    They got everywhere.
     
    That they did, even purportedly sending trade embassies to China via Vietnam.

    Provided they didn't use it as a vehicle for woke multi-cult propaganda, the adventures of a 2nd century Indian Ocean plying Roman sailer/merchantman as he traveled to Vietnam, India, or, East Africa, could make for an intriguing HBO mini-series. :-)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Roman_relations


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Periplous_of_the_Erythraean_Sea.svg/800px-Periplous_of_the_Erythraean_Sea.svg.png


    Sino-Roman Relations

    Ancient Chinese historians recorded several alleged Roman emissaries to China. The first one on record, supposedly either from the Roman emperor Antoninus Pius or from his adopted son Marcus Aurelius, arrived in 166 AD. Others are recorded as arriving in 226 and 284 AD, followed by a long hiatus until the first recorded Byzantine embassy in 643 AD.

    The indirect exchange of goods on land along the Silk Road and sea routes involved (for example) Chinese silk, Roman glassware and high-quality cloth. Roman coins minted from the 1st century AD onwards have been found in China, as well as a coin of Maximian (Roman emperor from 286 to 305 AD) and medallions from the reigns of Antoninus Pius (r. 138–161 AD) and Marcus Aurelius (r. 161–180 AD) in Jiaozhi (in present-day Vietnam), the same region at which Chinese sources claim the Romans first landed. Roman glassware and silverware have been discovered at Chinese archaeological sites dated to the Han period (202 BC to 220 AD). Roman coins and glass beads have also been found in the Japanese archipelago.

     

    Replies: @songbird

  341. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    To elaborate on what I mean here, when Russia gives people convicted of terrorism 27 years in prison, there would have probably been not all that many Ukrainians who would have actually been willing to engage in terrorism had Russia successfully conquered all of Ukraine:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68095875

    The UK might have treated Irish terrorists with relative kid gloves. But the UK has a much more developed rule-of-law system relative to Russia, one that was successfully built over the course of many centuries.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    To elaborate on what I mean here, when Russia gives people convicted of terrorism 27 years in prison, there would have probably been not all that many Ukrainians who would have actually been willing to engage in terrorism had Russia successfully conquered all of Ukraine:

    Extraordinarily massive Ukrainian emigration would be very plausible and indeed probably very likely, however.

  342. @German_reader
    @Coconuts

    I don't really understand the logic of that WW2 revisionism which seems to be common among some right-wingers in Britain and the US, tbh it just comes across like an unthinking reaction against the dominant WW2/Holocaust cult. Hitler really was intent on creating a continental bloc under German domination, if Germany had conquered the Soviet Union, it would have been one of the most powerful states in the world; given how British policy for centuries had been founded on preventing the emergence of a European hegemon, conflict was pretty much inevitable. And some of the comments in that video are just dumb (e.g. at 42.00 "Many Poles would have preferred being governed by Germans to Russians"...just stupid, a good case can be made that the People's republic was one of the best parts of Polish history, certainly infinitely preferable to being a slave people under the likes of Hans Frank...and maybe also to what might happen to Poland in coming decades under "liberal democracy").
    Of course emotionally I understand where these people are coming from, given what a nightmare the post-1945 order already has become.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

    I don’t really understand the logic of that WW2 revisionism which seems to be common among some right-wingers in Britain and the US, tbh it just comes across like an unthinking reaction against the dominant WW2/Holocaust cult.

    This must be mainly what inspires it, as you were saying too much is probably known now about the Nazi regime and its activities for this sort of revision to work anymore.

    The direction Alain de Benoist and the Nouvelle Droite guys took seems more interesting, given they originally came out of the post-war far-right in France but have managed to participate in mainstream debates, and it looks like some of their ideas are gaining irl political influence. Alain de Benoist was 80 recently and Elements magazine made this video about his huge personal library, shelves of books about topics like the ‘German Conservative Revolution’. Probably using that as a starting point rather than Nazi stuff is one way they have managed to have more impact:

    [MORE]

    A discussion between Academic Agent and Alain de Benoist would probably be good if it could ever happen. There is a good part at around 22 minutes where he talks about how Drieu La Rochelle is important to him.

    Of course emotionally I understand where these people are coming from, given what a nightmare the post-1945 order already has become.

    I think the past few years have produced a kind of shock effect, at least in the UK, even around 2016 I still remember the mood being mostly optimism about prosperity and Enlightenment values etc., a hang over from the war on terror/End of History period. Then the discoveries about demographic change, the rapid mainstreaming of Woke, it stimulates these reactions.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Coconuts

    There is a huge problem that Islamophile elites desperately need to suppress when discussing WW II. You cannot have National Socialism without LEFT Socialism. Hitler's is the LEFT's most powerful leader of all time, though Stalin and Mao are close runner ups.

    Artificial and fallacious dogma has been promulgated to cover-up Hitler's LEFTIST ideology. It is all about anti-Western Islamophiles smearing Judeo-Christian Populism.

    The clear first step in solving 95%+ of the world's problems:

    -- "Name the Muslim (or Islamophile)" --

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @German_reader
    @Coconuts


    The direction Alain de Benoist and the Nouvelle Droite guys took seems more interesting
     
    I'm inclined to agree, at least there seems to be some real intellectual content there (just my general impression, unfortunately haven't engaged deeply with Nouvelle Droite thought; it's certainly had some influence on parts of the German right though). But hasn't de Benoist gone trough a rather eccentric, or even erratic, intellectual development? I've certainly seen quite a bit of criticism of many of the positions he's alleged to hold (or have held at one point in time), like 3rd worldism, eco-socialism or a kind of right-wing antiracism (though left-wingers of course would claim much of that is just pretense, to make his ideas seem more palatable)...can't really judge it myself.

    I think the past few years have produced a kind of shock effect, at least in the UK
     
    Personally I've always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn't have imagined. In retrospect it's clear the seeds for this development were already present by the 1980s and 1990s at the latest, but at the time it probably wasn't obvious.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

  343. AP, without WWI, do you ever see eastern Galicia unifying with the Russian-controlled parts of Ukraine?

    (With WWI it’s very possible, just prevent the 1917 Bolshevik coup.)

  344. @Coconuts
    @German_reader


    I don’t really understand the logic of that WW2 revisionism which seems to be common among some right-wingers in Britain and the US, tbh it just comes across like an unthinking reaction against the dominant WW2/Holocaust cult.
     
    This must be mainly what inspires it, as you were saying too much is probably known now about the Nazi regime and its activities for this sort of revision to work anymore.

    The direction Alain de Benoist and the Nouvelle Droite guys took seems more interesting, given they originally came out of the post-war far-right in France but have managed to participate in mainstream debates, and it looks like some of their ideas are gaining irl political influence. Alain de Benoist was 80 recently and Elements magazine made this video about his huge personal library, shelves of books about topics like the 'German Conservative Revolution'. Probably using that as a starting point rather than Nazi stuff is one way they have managed to have more impact:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqVbN4Pd84&t=587s


    A discussion between Academic Agent and Alain de Benoist would probably be good if it could ever happen. There is a good part at around 22 minutes where he talks about how Drieu La Rochelle is important to him.

    Of course emotionally I understand where these people are coming from, given what a nightmare the post-1945 order already has become.
     
    I think the past few years have produced a kind of shock effect, at least in the UK, even around 2016 I still remember the mood being mostly optimism about prosperity and Enlightenment values etc., a hang over from the war on terror/End of History period. Then the discoveries about demographic change, the rapid mainstreaming of Woke, it stimulates these reactions.

    Replies: @A123, @German_reader

    There is a huge problem that Islamophile elites desperately need to suppress when discussing WW II. You cannot have National Socialism without LEFT Socialism. Hitler’s is the LEFT’s most powerful leader of all time, though Stalin and Mao are close runner ups.

    Artificial and fallacious dogma has been promulgated to cover-up Hitler’s LEFTIST ideology. It is all about anti-Western Islamophiles smearing Judeo-Christian Populism.

    The clear first step in solving 95%+ of the world’s problems:

    — “Name the Muslim (or Islamophile)” —

    PEACE 😇

    • Disagree: German_reader
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Hitler’s is the LEFT’s most powerful leader of all time, though Stalin and Mao are close runner ups.

    How would he be a leader of the left when he killed hundreds of thousands of leftists?

    National Socialism was its own monster and especially after Hiter look over. The original National Socialists did not want war or German expansion past WW1 boundaries.

    Artificial and fallacious dogma has been promulgated to cover-up Hitler’s LEFTIST ideology. It is all about anti-Western Islamophiles smearing Judeo-Christian Populism.

    Let's listen to Hitler on Islam:

    You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?

    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims.

    What a guy.

    We can also dig up a list of the Polish Catholic priests he immediately had executed as part of Intelligenzaktion.

    The conservative "Hitler was a leftist" trope is just as silly as Con Inc's "all Democrats are socialists".

    Replies: @A123

  345. German_reader says:
    @Coconuts
    @German_reader


    I don’t really understand the logic of that WW2 revisionism which seems to be common among some right-wingers in Britain and the US, tbh it just comes across like an unthinking reaction against the dominant WW2/Holocaust cult.
     
    This must be mainly what inspires it, as you were saying too much is probably known now about the Nazi regime and its activities for this sort of revision to work anymore.

    The direction Alain de Benoist and the Nouvelle Droite guys took seems more interesting, given they originally came out of the post-war far-right in France but have managed to participate in mainstream debates, and it looks like some of their ideas are gaining irl political influence. Alain de Benoist was 80 recently and Elements magazine made this video about his huge personal library, shelves of books about topics like the 'German Conservative Revolution'. Probably using that as a starting point rather than Nazi stuff is one way they have managed to have more impact:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqVbN4Pd84&t=587s


    A discussion between Academic Agent and Alain de Benoist would probably be good if it could ever happen. There is a good part at around 22 minutes where he talks about how Drieu La Rochelle is important to him.

    Of course emotionally I understand where these people are coming from, given what a nightmare the post-1945 order already has become.
     
    I think the past few years have produced a kind of shock effect, at least in the UK, even around 2016 I still remember the mood being mostly optimism about prosperity and Enlightenment values etc., a hang over from the war on terror/End of History period. Then the discoveries about demographic change, the rapid mainstreaming of Woke, it stimulates these reactions.

    Replies: @A123, @German_reader

    The direction Alain de Benoist and the Nouvelle Droite guys took seems more interesting

    I’m inclined to agree, at least there seems to be some real intellectual content there (just my general impression, unfortunately haven’t engaged deeply with Nouvelle Droite thought; it’s certainly had some influence on parts of the German right though). But hasn’t de Benoist gone trough a rather eccentric, or even erratic, intellectual development? I’ve certainly seen quite a bit of criticism of many of the positions he’s alleged to hold (or have held at one point in time), like 3rd worldism, eco-socialism or a kind of right-wing antiracism (though left-wingers of course would claim much of that is just pretense, to make his ideas seem more palatable)…can’t really judge it myself.

    I think the past few years have produced a kind of shock effect, at least in the UK

    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined. In retrospect it’s clear the seeds for this development were already present by the 1980s and 1990s at the latest, but at the time it probably wasn’t obvious.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader


    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined. In retrospect it’s clear the seeds for this development were already present by the 1980s and 1990s at the latest, but at the time it probably wasn’t obvious.

     

    If the AfD was smart, if it will ever come to power in Germany, it should, in addition to pushing for eventual Ukrainian EU membership (which will result in a whiter EU in the long-run), pass a Law of Return for ethnic Germans worldwide that's modeled on the Israeli Law of Return. So, anyone who had at least one German grandparent would automatically be able to immigrate to Germany together with their families, at least so long as they are not a security threat to Germany. Sounds like a huge win for Germany, no? Germany significantly benefitted from the immigration of ex-USSR Germans and Jews starting from the 1990s, no?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    , @Coconuts
    @German_reader


    But hasn’t de Benoist gone trough a rather eccentric, or even erratic, intellectual development?
     
    Afaik he has held most of those positions, the third-worldism seems to have been quite popular in France in the immediate post-colonial period, even on the far-right (Maurice Bardeche was writing about it as part of the future of fascism in the 60s), but now I would guess it has much less relevance because of the decolonisation movement, the scale of immigration etc. The context for it has changed so much.

    I think the right-wing anti-racism otoh is one of the more interesting positions, as part of the arguments for the Ethnopluralism idea de Benoist and the GRECE guys started claiming that Enlightenment liberalism represented true racism, as it sought to impose a single cultural tradition on all of humanity. Whereas they were arguing for the right to ethnocultural difference and distinction. It seems like it stirred up some debate in the 80s, Pierre Taguieff wrote the book I mentioned earlier in the thread partly as a response to Ethnopluralism coming from the old far-right and the left wing SOS-racisme movement that was developing at the same time.   

    Imo this was a meaty debate, Taguieff used a systematic analysis of the concept of racism to show that Ethnopluralism is probably not plausible as a genuine anti-racist concept, but at the same time he goes into a lot of detail about the problems of anti-racism; he has predictions about how anti-racism seemed to have the potential to become a new religioid utopian movement, replacing Communism, that traditional liberalism would be unable to resist it, it would generate a witch-hunt mentality and so on.   

    If someone had the time to go into it there should be some relevant material for current debates in the Anglosphere; de Benoist also published another book about identity quite recently that I would be interested in reading.


    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. 
     
    I remember that I was really pessimistic in the years after leaving university, maybe it was because certain trends were already developing there, it looked like they were going to spread and I had some kind of bad intuition about them. After some time I started thinking it must have been more about my own psychology, because there wasn't a lot of ambient interest in decadence themes in those years. The last few years though have been interesting, because now things seem to be suggesting the opposite.
  346. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN

    Talking about "paid trolls" sounds a bit paranoid, sorry. Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this? It's more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC, @A123, @Mikel, @songbird

    Why would anybody spend resources for such a purpose on a site like this?

    when you control the state apparatus, things don’t need to make discrete financial sense. Only political or ideological sense.

    Anyway, am sure there are many rational financial reasons for commenting on this blog, not limited to paid trolling alone, or restricted to promoting Redbox rentals to try to bring one’s latest box office bomb into the black. But also including plagiarizing our super-forecasters, and lazily passing it off as one’s own analysis at the CIA and other organizations, as well as writers of best-selling fiction lifting the attributes of our endless line-up of original characters.

  347. @German_reader
    @Coconuts

    Have you seen this:
    https://pimlicojournal.substack.com/p/history-reclaimed

    Replies: @Coconuts

    Thanks for that one. I have seen some of his other stuff but not that, it looks like it is worth reading carefully. From what I have read so far the general idea about the anti-woke/decolonisation movement being used mainly to promote the global liberalism project seems accurate.

  348. @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.
     
    That’s two viable hypotheses. Mental cases as well as very dumb people can do for free things that a sane and reasonably intelligent person would only do for money. Still, I see no point in reading the ravings of lunatics or the opinions of clinical idiots. So, the practical result is the same: it’s best to skip those comments to save time. After all, we are not sequoias, we don’t live 500 years.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Yevardian

    I just pop in here a few times a month to check on 4-5 commenters still here. Wonder if Dmitry’s gone for good? Two of them are “greyed out”, otherwise I’d just refer to their archive like I do for 1-2 interesting commenters on Sailer’s threads. Just hide the others so you don’t break your scroll wheel.

    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined.

    I actually think the silver lining for Germany and much of Europe is actually that things have gotten so bad, a counter-reaction should be inevitable, unless you really are lost. In Australia, NZ, Canada and to a lesser degree the US the migrants creating the demographic change are much better behaved, so “the frog will get boiled” with minimal pushback.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Yevardian


    I actually think the silver lining for Germany and much of Europe is actually that things have gotten so bad, a counter-reaction should be inevitable, unless you really are lost. In Australia, NZ, Canada and to a lesser degree the US the migrants creating the demographic change are much better behaved, so “the frog will get boiled” with minimal pushback.
     
    If Europe wants better migrants, it should seek out Indians and non-Muslim Southeast Asians. But especially Indians because there's a huge supply of them. Only 14% of Indians are Muslim, so not a huge problem for countries such as France who probably already have such a Muslim %, if not even a bit higher, among their younger generations.

    Indians are to Europe what Latin Americans are to the US.

    Replies: @Yevardian

    , @Gerard1234
    @Yevardian

    You know one more incredible thing about the pure, kind, gentle DOCTOR Mugabe???? As the drug addict Ze was jailing Medvedchuk...........Dr Mugabe allowed the white leader of Rhodesia he had fought against in a war to live in Rhodesia all his life and remain an important politician.

    I would take educated guess that Zimbabwe has alot more Mercedes in it proportionally than Banderastan........although Banderastan has the "advantage" in S-M toys if they want to claim peremoga over these Africans, lead for a long time by the sophisticated DOCTOR Mugabe.

    Replies: @German_reader

  349. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    They got everywhere.

    Replies: @songbird, @S

    Some of the coins got pretty far.

    And while I am back on the topic, it may be noteworthy how many of the Roman elite derived vast incomes from rental properties within the city. (Though not limited to those alone).

  350. Did someone mention Japanese Baseball in an earlier post?

    We approve — Mildly NSFW below [MORE]

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    Be careful with that. If AaronB is lurking you might give the poor guy a stroke.

  351. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    He's a political prisoner, no doubt. But also a nasty figure. Navalny previously acknowledged Girkin's political persecution at Putin's hands while also supporting putting him on trial in an international court for the downing of that Dutch plane (MH17) back in 2014.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    He’s a political prisoner, no doubt. But also a nasty figure. Navalny previously acknowledged Girkin’s political persecution at Putin’s hands while also supporting putting him on trial in an international court for the downing of that Dutch plane (MH17) back in 2014.

    A political prisoner that deserves life in prison anyways.

    A scumbag but he has balls for criticizing Putin and I hope his fellow Russians see what can happen to a former ally.

    But it should be noted that his criticisms are over how the war has been handled and not the war itself.

    Girkin wanted a larger force from the onset with mass conscription when it was clear that they were being pushed back. Send all reserves instead of trying to crack one point with Wagner to avoid public backlash over conscription. Fortunately the dwarf ignored him and bet on Prigozhin.

    I thought Girkin was correct from a strategic point of view. It made more sense to create a massive force to push on the entire front. But that option is now out and Girkin earned himself a plastic cage.

    Well done dwarf.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    It's always good when autocratic regimes purge those who are more competent. Similar to Stalin purging the Red Army, which was very bad for the Soviet people but great for the West since it made the Red Army less threatening to the West.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  352. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    He’s a political prisoner, no doubt. But also a nasty figure. Navalny previously acknowledged Girkin’s political persecution at Putin’s hands while also supporting putting him on trial in an international court for the downing of that Dutch plane (MH17) back in 2014.

    A political prisoner that deserves life in prison anyways.

    A scumbag but he has balls for criticizing Putin and I hope his fellow Russians see what can happen to a former ally.

    But it should be noted that his criticisms are over how the war has been handled and not the war itself.

    Girkin wanted a larger force from the onset with mass conscription when it was clear that they were being pushed back. Send all reserves instead of trying to crack one point with Wagner to avoid public backlash over conscription. Fortunately the dwarf ignored him and bet on Prigozhin.

    I thought Girkin was correct from a strategic point of view. It made more sense to create a massive force to push on the entire front. But that option is now out and Girkin earned himself a plastic cage.

    Well done dwarf.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    It’s always good when autocratic regimes purge those who are more competent. Similar to Stalin purging the Red Army, which was very bad for the Soviet people but great for the West since it made the Red Army less threatening to the West.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    It’s always good when autocratic regimes purge those who are more competent. Similar to Stalin purging the Red Army, which was very bad for the Soviet people but great for the West since it made the Red Army less threatening to the West.

    Oh it's a complete blessing that Putin thought he could launch this war on his own and without the advice of his generals.

    Some of his generals weren't even informed until 48 hours before the invasion.

    Then he later doubled down on his chef turned billionaire private warlord to turn things around.

    Putin's ego has been the best military advantage for Ukraine.

  353. @Yevardian
    @AnonfromTN

    I just pop in here a few times a month to check on 4-5 commenters still here. Wonder if Dmitry's gone for good? Two of them are "greyed out", otherwise I'd just refer to their archive like I do for 1-2 interesting commenters on Sailer's threads. Just hide the others so you don't break your scroll wheel.


    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined.
     
    I actually think the silver lining for Germany and much of Europe is actually that things have gotten so bad, a counter-reaction should be inevitable, unless you really are lost. In Australia, NZ, Canada and to a lesser degree the US the migrants creating the demographic change are much better behaved, so "the frog will get boiled" with minimal pushback.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Gerard1234

    I actually think the silver lining for Germany and much of Europe is actually that things have gotten so bad, a counter-reaction should be inevitable, unless you really are lost. In Australia, NZ, Canada and to a lesser degree the US the migrants creating the demographic change are much better behaved, so “the frog will get boiled” with minimal pushback.

    If Europe wants better migrants, it should seek out Indians and non-Muslim Southeast Asians. But especially Indians because there’s a huge supply of them. Only 14% of Indians are Muslim, so not a huge problem for countries such as France who probably already have such a Muslim %, if not even a bit higher, among their younger generations.

    Indians are to Europe what Latin Americans are to the US.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    @Mr. XYZ

    No.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  354. @German_reader
    @Coconuts


    The direction Alain de Benoist and the Nouvelle Droite guys took seems more interesting
     
    I'm inclined to agree, at least there seems to be some real intellectual content there (just my general impression, unfortunately haven't engaged deeply with Nouvelle Droite thought; it's certainly had some influence on parts of the German right though). But hasn't de Benoist gone trough a rather eccentric, or even erratic, intellectual development? I've certainly seen quite a bit of criticism of many of the positions he's alleged to hold (or have held at one point in time), like 3rd worldism, eco-socialism or a kind of right-wing antiracism (though left-wingers of course would claim much of that is just pretense, to make his ideas seem more palatable)...can't really judge it myself.

    I think the past few years have produced a kind of shock effect, at least in the UK
     
    Personally I've always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn't have imagined. In retrospect it's clear the seeds for this development were already present by the 1980s and 1990s at the latest, but at the time it probably wasn't obvious.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined. In retrospect it’s clear the seeds for this development were already present by the 1980s and 1990s at the latest, but at the time it probably wasn’t obvious.

    If the AfD was smart, if it will ever come to power in Germany, it should, in addition to pushing for eventual Ukrainian EU membership (which will result in a whiter EU in the long-run), pass a Law of Return for ethnic Germans worldwide that’s modeled on the Israeli Law of Return. So, anyone who had at least one German grandparent would automatically be able to immigrate to Germany together with their families, at least so long as they are not a security threat to Germany. Sounds like a huge win for Germany, no? Germany significantly benefitted from the immigration of ex-USSR Germans and Jews starting from the 1990s, no?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    An interesting idea but Germans will more likely go the other direction.

    A free Ukraine in a post war scenario would attract all kinds of Western Europeans and especially Germans.

    There will be plenty of Western slush funds for rebuilding.

    I could see Ukraine becoming the next Prague. Well pre-WW2 Prague when it was a sort of an international city with all kinds of Europeans.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    If the AfD was smart, if it will ever come to power in Germany, it should, in addition to pushing for eventual Ukrainian EU membership (which will result in a whiter EU in the long-run), pass a Law of Return for ethnic Germans worldwide that’s modeled on the Israeli Law of Return
     
    An interesting idea, but it needs refinement and prioritization:

    -1- Islamic settlers are the problem. Enthusiastic & enforced Muslim Decolonization is the answer.

    -2- Christian Germanification is bigly desirable, and must be the government's #1 priority.

    -3- To the extent that additional Judeo-Christians are needed, Ukraine could be a source. However, this needs to be tightly controlled to the actual need in Germany.

    PEACE 😇
  355. @A123
    @Coconuts

    There is a huge problem that Islamophile elites desperately need to suppress when discussing WW II. You cannot have National Socialism without LEFT Socialism. Hitler's is the LEFT's most powerful leader of all time, though Stalin and Mao are close runner ups.

    Artificial and fallacious dogma has been promulgated to cover-up Hitler's LEFTIST ideology. It is all about anti-Western Islamophiles smearing Judeo-Christian Populism.

    The clear first step in solving 95%+ of the world's problems:

    -- "Name the Muslim (or Islamophile)" --

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Hitler’s is the LEFT’s most powerful leader of all time, though Stalin and Mao are close runner ups.

    How would he be a leader of the left when he killed hundreds of thousands of leftists?

    National Socialism was its own monster and especially after Hiter look over. The original National Socialists did not want war or German expansion past WW1 boundaries.

    Artificial and fallacious dogma has been promulgated to cover-up Hitler’s LEFTIST ideology. It is all about anti-Western Islamophiles smearing Judeo-Christian Populism.

    Let’s listen to Hitler on Islam:

    You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?

    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims.

    What a guy.

    We can also dig up a list of the Polish Catholic priests he immediately had executed as part of Intelligenzaktion.

    The conservative “Hitler was a leftist” trope is just as silly as Con Inc’s “all Democrats are socialists”.

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson


    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims. What a guy.
     
    Thank you for supporting my point. LEFT Hitler wanted LEFT Islam.

    How would he be a leader of the left when he killed hundreds of thousands of leftists?
     
    Left on Left violence is normal, perhaps inevitable.

    Consider Iran after the Shah. ULTRA LEFT Islamists disposed of the merely somewhat LEFT communists. Ayatollah Khomeini, and his successor Khamenei, define anti-Semitic LEFTOID intolerance.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @John Johnson, @Wokechoke

  356. @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader


    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined. In retrospect it’s clear the seeds for this development were already present by the 1980s and 1990s at the latest, but at the time it probably wasn’t obvious.

     

    If the AfD was smart, if it will ever come to power in Germany, it should, in addition to pushing for eventual Ukrainian EU membership (which will result in a whiter EU in the long-run), pass a Law of Return for ethnic Germans worldwide that's modeled on the Israeli Law of Return. So, anyone who had at least one German grandparent would automatically be able to immigrate to Germany together with their families, at least so long as they are not a security threat to Germany. Sounds like a huge win for Germany, no? Germany significantly benefitted from the immigration of ex-USSR Germans and Jews starting from the 1990s, no?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    An interesting idea but Germans will more likely go the other direction.

    A free Ukraine in a post war scenario would attract all kinds of Western Europeans and especially Germans.

    There will be plenty of Western slush funds for rebuilding.

    I could see Ukraine becoming the next Prague. Well pre-WW2 Prague when it was a sort of an international city with all kinds of Europeans.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Ukraine is too poor to attract a lot of Germans and other people from developed countries, no? It first needs to significantly develop. And even then, what would its full potential be? Slovakia's level of GDP PPP per capita? Would that actually be attractive enough for Germans? In any case, Russia and Central Asia still have a lot of Germans and people who have up to 25% German descent.

    Was pre-WWII Prague really all that diverse? The impression that I got is that it mostly consisted of Czechs and Jews, with perhaps some Germans. Who else lived there back then in large numbers?


    -1- Islamic settlers are the problem. Enthusiastic & enforced Muslim Decolonization is the answer.
     
    Good luck getting the EU courts to approve this.

    -2- Christian Germanification is bigly desirable, and must be the government’s #1 priority.
     
    Vote AfD then, especially if they'll stop cucking on Ukriane.

    -3- To the extent that additional Judeo-Christians are needed, Ukraine could be a source. However, this needs to be tightly controlled to the actual need in Germany.
     
    Germany has very low fertility. The Reich and Fatherland needs more people!

    Replies: @John Johnson

  357. @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader


    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined. In retrospect it’s clear the seeds for this development were already present by the 1980s and 1990s at the latest, but at the time it probably wasn’t obvious.

     

    If the AfD was smart, if it will ever come to power in Germany, it should, in addition to pushing for eventual Ukrainian EU membership (which will result in a whiter EU in the long-run), pass a Law of Return for ethnic Germans worldwide that's modeled on the Israeli Law of Return. So, anyone who had at least one German grandparent would automatically be able to immigrate to Germany together with their families, at least so long as they are not a security threat to Germany. Sounds like a huge win for Germany, no? Germany significantly benefitted from the immigration of ex-USSR Germans and Jews starting from the 1990s, no?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    If the AfD was smart, if it will ever come to power in Germany, it should, in addition to pushing for eventual Ukrainian EU membership (which will result in a whiter EU in the long-run), pass a Law of Return for ethnic Germans worldwide that’s modeled on the Israeli Law of Return

    An interesting idea, but it needs refinement and prioritization:

    -1- Islamic settlers are the problem. Enthusiastic & enforced Muslim Decolonization is the answer.

    -2- Christian Germanification is bigly desirable, and must be the government’s #1 priority.

    -3- To the extent that additional Judeo-Christians are needed, Ukraine could be a source. However, this needs to be tightly controlled to the actual need in Germany.

    PEACE 😇

  358. @A123
    Did someone mention Japanese Baseball in an earlier post?

    We approve -- Mildly NSFW below [MORE]

    PEACE 😇



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wVw3UzL3A0E

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Be careful with that. If AaronB is lurking you might give the poor guy a stroke.

    • LOL: A123
  359. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Hitler’s is the LEFT’s most powerful leader of all time, though Stalin and Mao are close runner ups.

    How would he be a leader of the left when he killed hundreds of thousands of leftists?

    National Socialism was its own monster and especially after Hiter look over. The original National Socialists did not want war or German expansion past WW1 boundaries.

    Artificial and fallacious dogma has been promulgated to cover-up Hitler’s LEFTIST ideology. It is all about anti-Western Islamophiles smearing Judeo-Christian Populism.

    Let's listen to Hitler on Islam:

    You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?

    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims.

    What a guy.

    We can also dig up a list of the Polish Catholic priests he immediately had executed as part of Intelligenzaktion.

    The conservative "Hitler was a leftist" trope is just as silly as Con Inc's "all Democrats are socialists".

    Replies: @A123

    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims. What a guy.

    Thank you for supporting my point. LEFT Hitler wanted LEFT Islam.

    How would he be a leader of the left when he killed hundreds of thousands of leftists?

    Left on Left violence is normal, perhaps inevitable.

    Consider Iran after the Shah. ULTRA LEFT Islamists disposed of the merely somewhat LEFT communists. Ayatollah Khomeini, and his successor Khamenei, define anti-Semitic LEFTOID intolerance.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @A123

    Stop being wilfully silly.

    Also, Hit,er was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war. Even though they were clearly superior practitioners of conventional warfare both tactics and operations, over all comers.

    Replies: @A123

    , @John Johnson
    @A123


    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims. What a guy.
     
    Thank you for supporting my point. LEFT Hitler wanted LEFT Islam.

    Islam was created before the left existed.

    Hitler admired the conquering and aggressive nature of Islam.

    Islam shouldn't be described as right or left. It's a religion.

    The left uses Islam as a tool against the West but they actually prefer Christianity in countries where there aren't any Whites. They would prefer Africans to be Christan rather than Muslim. Islam is too restrictive against women for the left. It has values that conflict with both right and left.

    Consider Iran after the Shah. ULTRA LEFT Islamists disposed of the merely somewhat LEFT communists.

    So what? Politics makes strange alliances.

    The USSR backed a secular minority coup against a Muslim population. Chinese leftists have been suppressing Muslims since WW2.

    Islam is naturally opposed to left-wing rule. The left promotes secular government which Islam opposes. Islam holds that Muslim values are to be incorporated in all aspects of life. Islam also conflicts with the right in that it opposes free speech. Of course this can't be stated openly. Not a selling point.

    , @Wokechoke
    @A123

    Stop being wilfully silly. Hitler was right wing.

    Also, Hitler was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war. Muslims have a list of rules on war derived from Jewish rules in the 613 laws, the last is to destroy Amalek.


    Even though they were clearly superior practitioners of conventional warfare both tactics and operations, over all comers Germans tended to fight clean battles. They were shocked by the piratical stuff like Area Bombing, Dehousing, Terrorism and Blockade the British and Americans developed to overcome the more legally and ethnically sound German successes Germany demonstrated up to the middle of 1942.

    Replies: @A123, @Coconuts

  360. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    An interesting idea but Germans will more likely go the other direction.

    A free Ukraine in a post war scenario would attract all kinds of Western Europeans and especially Germans.

    There will be plenty of Western slush funds for rebuilding.

    I could see Ukraine becoming the next Prague. Well pre-WW2 Prague when it was a sort of an international city with all kinds of Europeans.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Ukraine is too poor to attract a lot of Germans and other people from developed countries, no? It first needs to significantly develop. And even then, what would its full potential be? Slovakia’s level of GDP PPP per capita? Would that actually be attractive enough for Germans? In any case, Russia and Central Asia still have a lot of Germans and people who have up to 25% German descent.

    Was pre-WWII Prague really all that diverse? The impression that I got is that it mostly consisted of Czechs and Jews, with perhaps some Germans. Who else lived there back then in large numbers?

    -1- Islamic settlers are the problem. Enthusiastic & enforced Muslim Decolonization is the answer.

    Good luck getting the EU courts to approve this.

    -2- Christian Germanification is bigly desirable, and must be the government’s #1 priority.

    Vote AfD then, especially if they’ll stop cucking on Ukriane.

    -3- To the extent that additional Judeo-Christians are needed, Ukraine could be a source. However, this needs to be tightly controlled to the actual need in Germany.

    Germany has very low fertility. The Reich and Fatherland needs more people!

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Ukraine is too poor to attract a lot of Germans and other people from developed countries, no? It first needs to significantly develop. And even then, what would its full potential be? Slovakia’s level of GDP PPP per capita? Would that actually be attractive enough for Germans?

    I think Ukraine will attract Brits, French and German that are dissatisfied with what has become of Western society.

    A combination of dissatisfaction with the status quo and economic opportunities from a labor shortage. There will also be contracts from Western countries.

    Was pre-WWII Prague really all that diverse? The impression that I got is that it mostly consisted of Czechs and Jews, with perhaps some Germans. Who else lived there back then in large numbers?

    Germans, Jews, Poles, some random Slavs. It was a place where Europeans could go to be anonymous. I could see that happening in Ukraine.

    Good luck getting the EU courts to approve this.

    I think you merged a post from A123 as mine. I don't care about Christian Germanification as policy. Germany has long been more secular compared to other European countries and I don't see that changing.

  361. @QCIC
    @22pp22

    Not that I have seen. At one point AK counted new names on a Russian war memorial and extrapolated this to the country overall giving a large casualty figure. In 2022 I think Russia gave some numbers, though with wording which potentially implied that LDR volunteers, national guard and Wagner were not included in those particular totals.

    Many people who understand the Russian geopolitical perspective in this conflict accept the Russian casualty figure is a large number (shocking by US standards) though still small compared to the Ukrainian figure.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Many people who understand the Russian geopolitical perspective in this conflict accept the Russian casualty figure is a large number (shocking by US standards) though still small compared to the Ukrainian figure.

    Russian deaths are incomparably lower than US deaths (and casualties) in Vietnam, maybe even in the Korean war also. Massively less compared to American deaths in both the European and Pacific/Japanese parts of WW2. Or to either side in the American Civil War.

    Remember that’s all with the comparison that Americans were a significant but still fraction of the native forces they were in fighting coalition with for both the Korean war and Vietnam. In western front of WW2 the Americans probably not much above 50/50 with British or British Empire troops. In the pacific mostly American Navy but land forces fighting the Japanese on Asian mainland is mostly Chinese, British,British Empire(Indians), Koreans, then later the Soviets massively and others cumulatively compared to the Americans.

    For the SMO its solely Russia against NATO & NATO proxy forces…….the kill ratio is extremely high in our favour and our losses are very sad but minimal in context of everything and as a number itself. Forget optical illusions from Ukronazi/western propaganda lies with whatever fake videos , with any actual videos designed to give a fake multiplier perception to the easily manipulated about overall losses. Thats what the modern era can try to give in false perception ridiculous psyops in a way that newspaper & radio reports in WW2 never could propagate. In addition for those of us with friends fighting in SMO, talk of overall high kill ratios with them is irrelevant when you are in or expecting action- but it doesn’t change the reality that the GS is working with on a large-scale and implementing successfully.

    Certainly I think western ukroreikh “supporter” retards fed on western propaganda lies will be shocked at just how minimal our losses are. Sure, if 500000 ukronazis are dead, and 4000 foreigners dead by June 2022 – then it’s logical to assume a certain number of Russian heroes have passed……but as I said, the assumption is wrong. The number of forces used at the start of the SMO for an operation this small was extremely small…..and extremely successful. The one, partial, mobilisation had zero connection to depletion of forces as events preceeding it and strategy following it prove to any person engaging their brain. Many other things could be said about it – but its a fact that our small number of initial forces would easily have been routed along such a long frontline if our losses before mobilisation were even a fraction of what these retards are claiming. Its also a fact that there was the Surovikin defensive line constructions, but in addition to that in an active warzone we have conducted the largest non-military engineering series of projects in history too. Remarkable achievements, requiring military to secure these projects and administration of liberated regions that much of the mobilisation is partially intended for.

    I understand the sentiment behind your comment, but I don’t think it’s accurate. Khokhols and western psyops were propagating this same embarassing BS in 2014. Although maybe dumb Americans are completely unaware of their losses in the wars I mentioned anyway.

    As I have said before – this is one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history. Of course you are still talking about an enemy of considerable numerical size armed with huge amounts of Soviet and modern weapons systems, ammunition,data received and other equipment , irrelevant of the huge numbers of this and themselves destroyed by us. They have Zero industrial capacity to provide for their military (because 404 is useless and porous western borders who can provide huge amounts) – this just results in more men on the battlefield we have to fight against…. and their non-existant industrial capacity to support VSU campaign makes a strategic bombing campaign in Ukraine completely useless. We are fighting in cities, towns and even smaller settlements than them designed in Soviet era to be defended in nuclear warfare……..and have had 8 years of very serious NATO fortifications constructed.

    All this makes the SMO what it is (an ongoing great success) – I would add that it looks like injured casualties are much closer to deaths in number ( normally expected to be much higher compared to deaths) because the amount of heavy artillery, drones and others being used in action is much higher in ratio to light weapons/small arms than any other war in history. Shoigu mentioned incredible numbers of 90% of our injured fighters have already returned to active service!!!! This supports idea that volume of heavy weaponry used is creating more of a transfer of survivable serious injuries into fatalities……but higher series of lighter injuries not being serious injuries.

    Normally for a war fought like this, the zero MIC would greatly reduce the number of fighters available to fight – here it’s the total opposite for 404. More than that ,the allowing of millions of Ukrainian women , children and elderly – together with the quite sizeable increase in ukronazi VSU salaries before the SMO , and during it (via western money of course) is something that, for the first time in history actually encourages a loser-fake nation to be sadist and generate more forces willing to be canon fodder en masse. Normally millions of civilians fleeing is a byproduct of official defeat of their side . Here its a massive technical defeat in rapid time, but even with millions running away there is no official defeat. Normally the political administration of the state would be restricted by financial wartime budget and military personnel mass losses……..here it’s just the perfect corruption scheme for them, their families and their upper-rank military officers to steal and steal some more with compliant and corrupt westerners allowance.

    I’m extremely dissapointed that 9 or our guys died in the ukronazi Il-76 shot down and also those that can’t be exchanged now….. but with this satanic enemy it’s a great day’s work for them- “only ” a 7:1 kill ratio ukrops to Russia’s is great, pilots dead is much more military valueable to the nazi’s then all of the 65 on that list. The plane itself easily worth destroying over the 65 of their own. Additionally for these vermin, alot of Russian names on the ukronazi POW list. POW ratio is that high in favour of Russia it serves no purpose for the ukroreikh to even do equal exchanges.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here. American dead in Vietnam were somewhat under 60 000, seems entirely possible Russian casualties in Ukraine are already at that level (though of course nobody writing in this comments section can know for certain). Ukrainian losses may be even higher, and unless something changes drastically, Russia will probably win in the end, but "one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history"??? Get real, that's just not believable. If it's so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

  362. Italy to send a Division to the River Don.

    Brava!

  363. @Yevardian
    @AnonfromTN

    I just pop in here a few times a month to check on 4-5 commenters still here. Wonder if Dmitry's gone for good? Two of them are "greyed out", otherwise I'd just refer to their archive like I do for 1-2 interesting commenters on Sailer's threads. Just hide the others so you don't break your scroll wheel.


    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn’t have imagined.
     
    I actually think the silver lining for Germany and much of Europe is actually that things have gotten so bad, a counter-reaction should be inevitable, unless you really are lost. In Australia, NZ, Canada and to a lesser degree the US the migrants creating the demographic change are much better behaved, so "the frog will get boiled" with minimal pushback.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Gerard1234

    You know one more incredible thing about the pure, kind, gentle DOCTOR Mugabe???? As the drug addict Ze was jailing Medvedchuk………..Dr Mugabe allowed the white leader of Rhodesia he had fought against in a war to live in Rhodesia all his life and remain an important politician.

    I would take educated guess that Zimbabwe has alot more Mercedes in it proportionally than Banderastan……..although Banderastan has the “advantage” in S-M toys if they want to claim peremoga over these Africans, lead for a long time by the sophisticated DOCTOR Mugabe.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Gerard1234


    DOCTOR Mugabe
     
    Honorary degrees don't count.
    Unless you want to imply he was a certified witch doctor, which might of course be quite plausible for such a vile man.

    Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234

  364. German_reader says:
    @Gerard1234
    @QCIC


    Many people who understand the Russian geopolitical perspective in this conflict accept the Russian casualty figure is a large number (shocking by US standards) though still small compared to the Ukrainian figure.
     
    Russian deaths are incomparably lower than US deaths (and casualties) in Vietnam, maybe even in the Korean war also. Massively less compared to American deaths in both the European and Pacific/Japanese parts of WW2. Or to either side in the American Civil War.

    Remember that's all with the comparison that Americans were a significant but still fraction of the native forces they were in fighting coalition with for both the Korean war and Vietnam. In western front of WW2 the Americans probably not much above 50/50 with British or British Empire troops. In the pacific mostly American Navy but land forces fighting the Japanese on Asian mainland is mostly Chinese, British,British Empire(Indians), Koreans, then later the Soviets massively and others cumulatively compared to the Americans.

    For the SMO its solely Russia against NATO & NATO proxy forces.......the kill ratio is extremely high in our favour and our losses are very sad but minimal in context of everything and as a number itself. Forget optical illusions from Ukronazi/western propaganda lies with whatever fake videos , with any actual videos designed to give a fake multiplier perception to the easily manipulated about overall losses. Thats what the modern era can try to give in false perception ridiculous psyops in a way that newspaper & radio reports in WW2 never could propagate. In addition for those of us with friends fighting in SMO, talk of overall high kill ratios with them is irrelevant when you are in or expecting action- but it doesn't change the reality that the GS is working with on a large-scale and implementing successfully.

    Certainly I think western ukroreikh "supporter" retards fed on western propaganda lies will be shocked at just how minimal our losses are. Sure, if 500000 ukronazis are dead, and 4000 foreigners dead by June 2022 - then it's logical to assume a certain number of Russian heroes have passed......but as I said, the assumption is wrong. The number of forces used at the start of the SMO for an operation this small was extremely small.....and extremely successful. The one, partial, mobilisation had zero connection to depletion of forces as events preceeding it and strategy following it prove to any person engaging their brain. Many other things could be said about it - but its a fact that our small number of initial forces would easily have been routed along such a long frontline if our losses before mobilisation were even a fraction of what these retards are claiming. Its also a fact that there was the Surovikin defensive line constructions, but in addition to that in an active warzone we have conducted the largest non-military engineering series of projects in history too. Remarkable achievements, requiring military to secure these projects and administration of liberated regions that much of the mobilisation is partially intended for.


    I understand the sentiment behind your comment, but I don't think it's accurate. Khokhols and western psyops were propagating this same embarassing BS in 2014. Although maybe dumb Americans are completely unaware of their losses in the wars I mentioned anyway.

    As I have said before - this is one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history. Of course you are still talking about an enemy of considerable numerical size armed with huge amounts of Soviet and modern weapons systems, ammunition,data received and other equipment , irrelevant of the huge numbers of this and themselves destroyed by us. They have Zero industrial capacity to provide for their military (because 404 is useless and porous western borders who can provide huge amounts) - this just results in more men on the battlefield we have to fight against.... and their non-existant industrial capacity to support VSU campaign makes a strategic bombing campaign in Ukraine completely useless. We are fighting in cities, towns and even smaller settlements than them designed in Soviet era to be defended in nuclear warfare........and have had 8 years of very serious NATO fortifications constructed.

    All this makes the SMO what it is (an ongoing great success) - I would add that it looks like injured casualties are much closer to deaths in number ( normally expected to be much higher compared to deaths) because the amount of heavy artillery, drones and others being used in action is much higher in ratio to light weapons/small arms than any other war in history. Shoigu mentioned incredible numbers of 90% of our injured fighters have already returned to active service!!!! This supports idea that volume of heavy weaponry used is creating more of a transfer of survivable serious injuries into fatalities......but higher series of lighter injuries not being serious injuries.

    Normally for a war fought like this, the zero MIC would greatly reduce the number of fighters available to fight - here it's the total opposite for 404. More than that ,the allowing of millions of Ukrainian women , children and elderly - together with the quite sizeable increase in ukronazi VSU salaries before the SMO , and during it (via western money of course) is something that, for the first time in history actually encourages a loser-fake nation to be sadist and generate more forces willing to be canon fodder en masse. Normally millions of civilians fleeing is a byproduct of official defeat of their side . Here its a massive technical defeat in rapid time, but even with millions running away there is no official defeat. Normally the political administration of the state would be restricted by financial wartime budget and military personnel mass losses........here it's just the perfect corruption scheme for them, their families and their upper-rank military officers to steal and steal some more with compliant and corrupt westerners allowance.

    I'm extremely dissapointed that 9 or our guys died in the ukronazi Il-76 shot down and also those that can't be exchanged now..... but with this satanic enemy it's a great day's work for them- "only " a 7:1 kill ratio ukrops to Russia's is great, pilots dead is much more military valueable to the nazi's then all of the 65 on that list. The plane itself easily worth destroying over the 65 of their own. Additionally for these vermin, alot of Russian names on the ukronazi POW list. POW ratio is that high in favour of Russia it serves no purpose for the ukroreikh to even do equal exchanges.

    Replies: @German_reader

    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here. American dead in Vietnam were somewhat under 60 000, seems entirely possible Russian casualties in Ukraine are already at that level (though of course nobody writing in this comments section can know for certain). Ukrainian losses may be even higher, and unless something changes drastically, Russia will probably win in the end, but “one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history”??? Get real, that’s just not believable. If it’s so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @German_reader

    Gerard1234's perspective is more positive than most. If he lives in Russia his estimates are likely better than our guesses from distant countries. Hopefully when Ukraine decides to end this nonsense, all of the casualty numbers will be lower than expected.

    Karlin's post long ago was the only independent data I have seen. He counted new names on a military monument to Russian soldiers who died in combat. The major assumption behind his estimate was that the region around the monument was representative of losses for the entire country. This is just a guess. It could be that losses were much higher in some areas closer to the fighting.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    A 60,000 Russian casualty figure seems woefully low when you consider that even Putler recently admitted to over 360,000 such losses. Recently leaked US sources claim 315,000.


    Russian President Vladimir Putin is pictured during a press conference in Moscow, Russia on December 14, 2023. Putin purportedly admitted to "363,000" troop losses in Ukraine during the event, according to military analyst Ian Matveev.
     
    https://www.newsweek.com/putin-admits-russia-suffered-huge-losses-ukraine-1852660
    The breakdown of the losses within is valuable too.

    Replies: @AP

    , @AP
    @German_reader

    Dmitry once speculated that Gerard was an elaborate Ukrainian troll. I don’t think so, but the comment you replied to suggests that to be the case.

    Nobody really knows each side’s casualties but one can make rough estimates. Mediazone looks at confirmed obituaries that they find, which as they write is much smaller then the actual number of deaths (it doesn’t include MIA, it doesn’t include those deaths and burials that can’t be found online which may be an issue in villages, and it lags because not all can be found right away) but can be considered an absolute lowest number. As of January 19 2024 it was 42,484:

    https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

    This number also does not include any dead from the Donbas Republic forces.

    They do not have an estimate for the actual number of killed Russian soldiers. The last time they made such an estimate seems to have been in July 2023 - it was 47,000 dead by May 2023. This number was based on a count of 26,800 confirmed deaths via online obituaries. If the ratio of confirmed deaths to actual deaths is the same now as it was in May 2023, then the number of Russian Federation military deaths (not including Donbas Republic forces) would be around 74,500.

    This is the lowest estimate out there. Our former host thinks it’s around 100-120k or so IIRC. The Ukrainian government claims 300k IIRC but I wouldn’t take that seriously.

    At any rate, Russia has certainly lost more men in this war than America has lost in all of the Vietnam war (58,300). It has lost more men then it lost in the Russo-Japanese war (upper estimate is 71,000). And all Russia has gained, has been 8% of Ukraine’s territory.

    It’s a testament to some competence by Russia’s authorities that there is no real unrest. They wisely loaded the casualties into ethnic Republics, smaller towns out in the provinces, and among convicts. People who can’t do much about it.

    , @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    Russia will probably win in the end, but “one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history”???
     
    It is certainly not one-sided. It would have been if Russia were fighting Ukraine. But in reality Russia is fighting NATO. Russia will eventually win, like it did against Hitler, but the battle is going to be long and quite bloody. For now Russian casualties (which we don’t now) are much smaller than Ukrainian, as evidenced, among many other things, by explosive growth of cemeteries all over Ukraine.

    There are several reasons for that. One, the empire does not give a damn about the casualties of even those aborigines who are technically on its side. Two, Ukies are remarkably corrupt, they are stealing anywhere they can. The result is low quality of weapons and protective gear supplied to Ukie troops, as well as widespread sale of Western weapons and ammo via darknet to the highest bidder, in essence depriving Ukie troops. Three, banderite regime, having limited internal support, places loyalty above competency, so many high-ranking Ukie commanders are simply incompetent. There are other reasons, but these three are the main ones.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader

    , @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here.
     
    Absurd nonsense. We do know quite accurate data for our initial number of forces in SMO, and we have a good idea of how many have been deployed to the SMO region since February 2024, and we have a very good idea of how many are serving in the liberated territories - but are vulnerable only to longer-range MLRS or missile strikes because they are not there for frontline activity. And those numbers likely to be in Crimea, Belarus and border regions (and Kaliningrad). With that , anyone with a brain, can see that western and ukronazi figures for our casualties are amusing lies.

    Have you actually seen ANY western figures commit to an estimate of our total initial number and those who have been deployed since the start? Of course not because then their lies about our casualties look even more braindead - statistically impossible. You want to compare the side with numerous mobilsations against the side who have had one? Look at how they are fighting to how we are fighting. Do you want to commit to estimating a number of how many are deployed in the SMO, versus how many casualties would make our military completely unable to function and how even a fraction of western psyops claims of number are ludicrous? Of course you won't because then it because so obvious how well we have done. Because they are lying from the start - you won't see any of these freaks commit to prediction of when we will need a next mobilisation from these fake loss "projections"

    If it’s so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?
     
    1. Because of 3.4% GDP growth in 2023

    2. Because taking Kiev and other major areas requires trillions of roubles in social payments, salaries and services - trillions that for social payments and salaries the west is paying them is actually a "favour" for us in some aspects - as we are paying trillions into the newly liberated territories

    3. Because we're clearly fighting an SMO with even larger goals such as the possibility for direct fight with NATO . Kaliningrad is surrounded by the worst scum possible. Middle East. Either side wants to show and test in combat only some technological improvements, tactical and systematic actions they want to show in the SMO - plenty of these things they don't want to place into action until absolutely necessary - such as a direct Russia vs America war as example.

    4. Because we have commitments to Belarus, which directly showed in the northern front of our operations during the opening stage. Belarus now is as safe as Poland (for the moment) is, though Belarus is not close to a participant on our side of SMO as Poland and the other NATO whores are to 404.

    5. Because depleting the enemy and NATO resources is a legitimate goal, and our economic performance allows this to happen without any particular time restrictions other than only strategic weapon developments from NATO which at moment are far behind Russia

    6. Because from on our side - no war in history has had so much non-military related engineering projects constructed in what is still recognised as a warzone. Fighting as we are doing, at this rate, allows this construction/reconstruction to occur

    7. West prepared 404 for an insurgency war, Russia annihilated them in many of the areas we wanted them to. They are fighting the type of war (outside of the Donbass) the west did not want them to, although either way its ukrop plankton dying not too much of themselves.

    8. Because Nazi Germany scum made us fight for every city and town, costing us millions in lives........while literally getting on their knees and giving western nations the keys to cities and town on the western front. In Donbass we are fighting in the most industrialised, reinforced concreted, urbanised parts of the planet that were actually partly designed to be defended in a nuclear war...and since 2014 have had 8 years of extensive fortifications built in addition. And its not just one or 2 big cities, its numerous dense, urbanised and industrial towns and settlements in Donbass that require serious effort for each - irrelevant of their actual populations ( some are big, some not so big) . Soviet urbanisation is on such a scale it makes liberation far more difficult than it would be for Frankfurt and linked industrial settlements around it or for Hamburg etc.


    9. We are fighting against cannon fodder vermin that desperately need the Donbass area and its people with its huge intellectual and industrial capital......but also have a deranged national ideology that actually wants as much of the Donbass and these people to be destroyed as possible, even though it most concentrated population of "Ukrainians". Should we intend to fight the ukronazis is EVERY settlement in Donbass, as they want us to? Have a Mariupol scenario everywhere? No. Some of these places may appear like villages to Germans unfamiliar with the area, but in reality they are not.Prolonged engagement in certain settlements getting as many ukronazis to die as possible, saves other places . Win or lose, khokhols are not disturbed by these places getting destroyed.......that's why things will be completely different for Dnepropetrovsk , where too many of the elites couldn't allow that to be destroyed as they could tolerate for the Donbass. Its too much of a economic, transport, human capital, industrial hub and not targeted by khokhol insecurity complex.......to be allowed for fighting anywhere as intense as in Donbass. Without Donbass, 404 is dead, without Donbass and Dnepropetrovsk.....404 is dead and metaphorically radioactively decaying for 5000 years as a national idea.

    10.Because west decided for these lemmings, that control of the biggest nuclear power plant is not a serious negotiating position for Russia. I suspect Russia would have thought this scenario from Banderastan would be impossible to not reach some agreement.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mikel

  365. @Gerard1234
    @Yevardian

    You know one more incredible thing about the pure, kind, gentle DOCTOR Mugabe???? As the drug addict Ze was jailing Medvedchuk...........Dr Mugabe allowed the white leader of Rhodesia he had fought against in a war to live in Rhodesia all his life and remain an important politician.

    I would take educated guess that Zimbabwe has alot more Mercedes in it proportionally than Banderastan........although Banderastan has the "advantage" in S-M toys if they want to claim peremoga over these Africans, lead for a long time by the sophisticated DOCTOR Mugabe.

    Replies: @German_reader

    DOCTOR Mugabe

    Honorary degrees don’t count.
    Unless you want to imply he was a certified witch doctor, which might of course be quite plausible for such a vile man.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @German_reader

    The beauty of the witch doctor system is that it is very meritocratic and based on reputation rather than paper certificates.

    Methinks you are too biased against the profession, which, for a small fee, has often helped persecuted whites (I do not use the word Euro, to account for admixture) in South Africa and Rhodesia to successfully seek a redress of grievances from corrupt bureaucrats, not excluding those of Mugabe's own regime, which would have otherwise been totally impossible.

    Replies: @German_reader

    , @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    Honorary degrees don’t count.
    Unless you want to imply he was a certified witch doctor, which might of course be quite plausible for such a vile man.
     
    That just sounds racist to the great Doctor . He was a Catholic . I think he went to Oxford or Cambridge Universities like Gandhi. I am not here to defend him.....just to say he is a million times better than the lowlife western politicians making decisions against Russia.

    More importantly.....there is NOTHING to say he was morally or intellectually inferior to European/Western scum like Sholtz , Macron, Biden, Trump, Hunter, Sikorski-homo, Estonian-bitch etc. Would need to read his biography to know fully .....but he was in jail for purely political reasons, I think either his wife or daughter was killed by the previous regime, for democracy- pure democracy would result in all the Africans seizing white-owned farms and property immediately after Mugabe becoming elected - he waited 20 years to start doing this, and even then only partially. He renamed Salisbury to Harare........but didn't do retarded things like name Victoria Falls into Bandera Falls or Boris Nemtsov Falls. He allowed his main enemy, who he fought war against, to live peacefully in the country. That still places him as more sophisticated then most of the west politicians.

    On inter-african tribal conflict in Zimbabwe........maybe you know, but I am zero knowledge position to comment on it.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Yevardian

  366. @Mr. XYZ
    @Yevardian


    I actually think the silver lining for Germany and much of Europe is actually that things have gotten so bad, a counter-reaction should be inevitable, unless you really are lost. In Australia, NZ, Canada and to a lesser degree the US the migrants creating the demographic change are much better behaved, so “the frog will get boiled” with minimal pushback.
     
    If Europe wants better migrants, it should seek out Indians and non-Muslim Southeast Asians. But especially Indians because there's a huge supply of them. Only 14% of Indians are Muslim, so not a huge problem for countries such as France who probably already have such a Muslim %, if not even a bit higher, among their younger generations.

    Indians are to Europe what Latin Americans are to the US.

    Replies: @Yevardian

    No.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Yevardian

    Indians have managed to integrate pretty well in Britain, have they not? In spite of Britain's Indians likely being duller on average than the ones in the US, Canada, et cetera (but still not as dull on average as British Pakistanis and British Bangladeshis are).

    Replies: @German_reader

  367. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234


    DOCTOR Mugabe
     
    Honorary degrees don't count.
    Unless you want to imply he was a certified witch doctor, which might of course be quite plausible for such a vile man.

    Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234

    The beauty of the witch doctor system is that it is very meritocratic and based on reputation rather than paper certificates.

    Methinks you are too biased against the profession, which, for a small fee, has often helped persecuted whites (I do not use the word Euro, to account for admixture) in South Africa and Rhodesia to successfully seek a redress of grievances from corrupt bureaucrats, not excluding those of Mugabe’s own regime, which would have otherwise been totally impossible.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @songbird

    Some years ago I had a look at this book:
    https://www.amazon.de/Kill-Boer-Government-Complicity-Africas-ebook/dp/B07N1QWT8G

    Mostly not that interesting (overly long and not very focused). But there were some graphic descriptions of murders in it which were pretty chilling. Not just because of the brutality, but because in some cases there are apparently clear indications of ritual aspects being involved, like traces of magic rituals performed at the site, or even ritual mutilations of victims. Don't care to look up the details again, but it was pretty disturbing. Not something you'd ever hear about in Western msm.

  368. @Yevardian
    @Mr. XYZ

    No.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Indians have managed to integrate pretty well in Britain, have they not? In spite of Britain’s Indians likely being duller on average than the ones in the US, Canada, et cetera (but still not as dull on average as British Pakistanis and British Bangladeshis are).

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Mr. XYZ

    Why can't you take no for an answer? Yevardian knows more about Indians than you.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  369. @Mr. XYZ
    @Yevardian

    Indians have managed to integrate pretty well in Britain, have they not? In spite of Britain's Indians likely being duller on average than the ones in the US, Canada, et cetera (but still not as dull on average as British Pakistanis and British Bangladeshis are).

    Replies: @German_reader

    Why can’t you take no for an answer? Yevardian knows more about Indians than you.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    Where does he live? Is he an Armenian-American or just an Armenian? There aren't very many Indians in Armenia or in the rest of the ex-USSR space. As for the Indians in America, they're great.

    Frankly, I've read enough about Indians, such as the fact that apparently even working-class Indian coolies in places like East Africa and Fiji eventually ended up becoming the commercial class of these places. That suggests some real potential for Indians, which also matches with India's high level of technological sophistication back in 1500.

  370. German_reader says:
    @songbird
    @German_reader

    The beauty of the witch doctor system is that it is very meritocratic and based on reputation rather than paper certificates.

    Methinks you are too biased against the profession, which, for a small fee, has often helped persecuted whites (I do not use the word Euro, to account for admixture) in South Africa and Rhodesia to successfully seek a redress of grievances from corrupt bureaucrats, not excluding those of Mugabe's own regime, which would have otherwise been totally impossible.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Some years ago I had a look at this book:

    Mostly not that interesting (overly long and not very focused). But there were some graphic descriptions of murders in it which were pretty chilling. Not just because of the brutality, but because in some cases there are apparently clear indications of ritual aspects being involved, like traces of magic rituals performed at the site, or even ritual mutilations of victims. Don’t care to look up the details again, but it was pretty disturbing. Not something you’d ever hear about in Western msm.

    • Thanks: songbird
  371. @German_reader
    @Mr. XYZ

    Why can't you take no for an answer? Yevardian knows more about Indians than you.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Where does he live? Is he an Armenian-American or just an Armenian? There aren’t very many Indians in Armenia or in the rest of the ex-USSR space. As for the Indians in America, they’re great.

    Frankly, I’ve read enough about Indians, such as the fact that apparently even working-class Indian coolies in places like East Africa and Fiji eventually ended up becoming the commercial class of these places. That suggests some real potential for Indians, which also matches with India’s high level of technological sophistication back in 1500.

  372. American Indians (lol) are overwhelmingly Brahmin and not at all representative of their countrymen. But even that aside, I wouldn’t want them in the US either. The desirability of a foreign nation in your country can’t simply be boiled down to solely IQ in an aspergers like fashion.

    I’m an Australian citizen, my extended family comes from USSR and the Mideast. Anyway I don’t work with Indians anymore so I’ve since able to relax about them. But personally, I still prefer the company of almost any other race, including negroes, who at least have some joie de vivre about them.

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @Yevardian

    Join up with us, and none shall have to suffer the company of Endians.

    ਅਕਾਲ

    Replies: @Yevardian

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Yevardian

    Yes, I'm well-aware of this fact about US Indians, but is this also true of UK Indians and East African Indians? They also do pretty well, albeit not as well as US Indians. UK Indian schoolchildren apparently have an average IQ of 97+.

    Very high black crime is the main problem with heavily black areas. Fix that problem, and these areas would be much more enjoyable to visit and to live in.

  373. @22pp22
    My first comment on this thread.

    Is there any reliable source of information on Russian casualties?

    Russia has a tradition of taking a lackadaisical attitude to casualties.

    However, in this war, it has abandoned territories which wold be too costly to hold.

    I do not know who or what to believe.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN, @Sean

    The Russian casualties in the initial stages of the SMO were high and many of extremely valuable professionals whose value was as a cadre that would be the basis for a full mobilization. The losses in the last year have been comparable in quantity yet a a contrast in quality: just as high as in the initial stages, but a relatively large proportion were of barely trained convicts who volunteered from the Russian prisons and are deliberately used to draw out Ukrainian firepower.

    I would say that the numbers do not matter much now because–whatever they are–casualties seem to have become sustainable for Russia and were they to become otherwise Russia could simply step back and stand on the purely defensive, which they are not doing. In my view the original Russian ambitions have matured into a strategy of holding what they have in Ukraine with an aggressive defense while keeping the war going rather than attain any concrete territorial object and they will be able to adjust their tactics accordingly. In a nutshell, I expect nothing much to happen. A lot.

  374. @Wokechoke
    @songbird

    They got everywhere.

    Replies: @songbird, @S

    They got everywhere.

    That they did, even purportedly sending trade embassies to China via Vietnam.

    Provided they didn’t use it as a vehicle for woke multi-cult propaganda, the adventures of a 2nd century Indian Ocean plying Roman sailer/merchantman as he traveled to Vietnam, India, or, East Africa, could make for an intriguing HBO mini-series. 🙂

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Roman_relations

    Sino-Roman Relations

    Ancient Chinese historians recorded several alleged Roman emissaries to China. The first one on record, supposedly either from the Roman emperor Antoninus Pius or from his adopted son Marcus Aurelius, arrived in 166 AD. Others are recorded as arriving in 226 and 284 AD, followed by a long hiatus until the first recorded Byzantine embassy in 643 AD.

    The indirect exchange of goods on land along the Silk Road and sea routes involved (for example) Chinese silk, Roman glassware and high-quality cloth. Roman coins minted from the 1st century AD onwards have been found in China, as well as a coin of Maximian (Roman emperor from 286 to 305 AD) and medallions from the reigns of Antoninus Pius (r. 138–161 AD) and Marcus Aurelius (r. 161–180 AD) in Jiaozhi (in present-day Vietnam), the same region at which Chinese sources claim the Romans first landed. Roman glassware and silverware have been discovered at Chinese archaeological sites dated to the Han period (202 BC to 220 AD). Roman coins and glass beads have also been found in the Japanese archipelago.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @S

    One thing that I would really like to see come out of the scrolls of Herculaneum is an ethnographic travelogue of East Asia. Perhaps, a visit to Japan before the modern Japanese even existed, or some description of Negritos where there are none today.

    But it is highly improbable that such a document was ever written, let alone survives.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  375. @A123
    @John Johnson


    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims. What a guy.
     
    Thank you for supporting my point. LEFT Hitler wanted LEFT Islam.

    How would he be a leader of the left when he killed hundreds of thousands of leftists?
     
    Left on Left violence is normal, perhaps inevitable.

    Consider Iran after the Shah. ULTRA LEFT Islamists disposed of the merely somewhat LEFT communists. Ayatollah Khomeini, and his successor Khamenei, define anti-Semitic LEFTOID intolerance.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @John Johnson, @Wokechoke

    Stop being wilfully silly.

    Also, Hit,er was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war. Even though they were clearly superior practitioners of conventional warfare both tactics and operations, over all comers.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Wokechoke


    Stop being wilfully silly.

    Also, Hit,er was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war
     
    OK. However, for the record, "absence of conscience" is another characteristic of the Left;)

    The best solution is to avoid the Left/Right spectrum as much as possible. Populist/Globalist is much more meaningful in most cases.

    Populist brings together labour and traditional Judeo-Christian values.
    Globalist is the perfect synthesis of corporatism and SJW values.

    Hitler's hatred of Judeo-Christians places him in the Globalist camp. That means his successors are leaders like Merkel and Scholz. AfD represents the opposite of Hitler's policies. The problem with allowing Hitler to be incorrectly described as right is that such willful mislabelling is then used to smear parties like AfD.

    PEACE 😇
  376. @A123
    @German_reader


    It’s more likely that many of the remaining commenters are simply mentally ill and/or stupid, without receiving any monetary compensation for their comments.
     
    Which applies to JJ/KK? He simultaneously claims to:

    • Have incredible inside access that gives him superior knowledge
    • Not have knowledge and thus cannot answer simple questions

    Is he deliberately trolling? Or, simply a moron? The inconsistencies in his posts are tragically obvious to the point of being comedic.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    JJ:

    • Have incredible inside access that gives him superior knowledge
    • Not have knowledge and thus cannot answer simple questions

    99% of the time, JJ either does or is able to provide links that support his written views here. When he can’t provide such backing, he honestly admits this right up front.

    You on the other hand, are the charlatan that runs around here and dishonestly tries to paint Zelensly as being some sort of a Nazi based on photos of various members of the Azov batallion, without Zelensky even pictured within the photo.

    I’m using kremlnstoogeA123’s favorite technique (guilt by no association) and claiming that he’s a flake and mental retard based on this photo. 🙂

  377. Am not wholly unsympathetic to the Chinese who wanted to shoot (shout at?) Brendan Kavanagh.

    For one thing, he seems to get into the personal space of others too readily. For another, IMO, his promotion of “boogy-woogy” cannot be interpreted as anything but subversion and degeneracy.

  378. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here. American dead in Vietnam were somewhat under 60 000, seems entirely possible Russian casualties in Ukraine are already at that level (though of course nobody writing in this comments section can know for certain). Ukrainian losses may be even higher, and unless something changes drastically, Russia will probably win in the end, but "one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history"??? Get real, that's just not believable. If it's so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    Gerard1234’s perspective is more positive than most. If he lives in Russia his estimates are likely better than our guesses from distant countries. Hopefully when Ukraine decides to end this nonsense, all of the casualty numbers will be lower than expected.

    Karlin’s post long ago was the only independent data I have seen. He counted new names on a military monument to Russian soldiers who died in combat. The major assumption behind his estimate was that the region around the monument was representative of losses for the entire country. This is just a guess. It could be that losses were much higher in some areas closer to the fighting.

  379. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here. American dead in Vietnam were somewhat under 60 000, seems entirely possible Russian casualties in Ukraine are already at that level (though of course nobody writing in this comments section can know for certain). Ukrainian losses may be even higher, and unless something changes drastically, Russia will probably win in the end, but "one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history"??? Get real, that's just not believable. If it's so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    A 60,000 Russian casualty figure seems woefully low when you consider that even Putler recently admitted to over 360,000 such losses. Recently leaked US sources claim 315,000.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin is pictured during a press conference in Moscow, Russia on December 14, 2023. Putin purportedly admitted to “363,000” troop losses in Ukraine during the event, according to military analyst Ian Matveev.

    https://www.newsweek.com/putin-admits-russia-suffered-huge-losses-ukraine-1852660
    The breakdown of the losses within is valuable too.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Those include both killed and injured IIRC, so given the ratio of killed to injured it would be around 100,000 or a bit more killed.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  380. @S
    @Wokechoke


    They got everywhere.
     
    That they did, even purportedly sending trade embassies to China via Vietnam.

    Provided they didn't use it as a vehicle for woke multi-cult propaganda, the adventures of a 2nd century Indian Ocean plying Roman sailer/merchantman as he traveled to Vietnam, India, or, East Africa, could make for an intriguing HBO mini-series. :-)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Roman_relations


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Periplous_of_the_Erythraean_Sea.svg/800px-Periplous_of_the_Erythraean_Sea.svg.png


    Sino-Roman Relations

    Ancient Chinese historians recorded several alleged Roman emissaries to China. The first one on record, supposedly either from the Roman emperor Antoninus Pius or from his adopted son Marcus Aurelius, arrived in 166 AD. Others are recorded as arriving in 226 and 284 AD, followed by a long hiatus until the first recorded Byzantine embassy in 643 AD.

    The indirect exchange of goods on land along the Silk Road and sea routes involved (for example) Chinese silk, Roman glassware and high-quality cloth. Roman coins minted from the 1st century AD onwards have been found in China, as well as a coin of Maximian (Roman emperor from 286 to 305 AD) and medallions from the reigns of Antoninus Pius (r. 138–161 AD) and Marcus Aurelius (r. 161–180 AD) in Jiaozhi (in present-day Vietnam), the same region at which Chinese sources claim the Romans first landed. Roman glassware and silverware have been discovered at Chinese archaeological sites dated to the Han period (202 BC to 220 AD). Roman coins and glass beads have also been found in the Japanese archipelago.

     

    Replies: @songbird

    One thing that I would really like to see come out of the scrolls of Herculaneum is an ethnographic travelogue of East Asia. Perhaps, a visit to Japan before the modern Japanese even existed, or some description of Negritos where there are none today.

    But it is highly improbable that such a document was ever written, let alone survives.

    • Agree: S
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I don't know anything about the scrolls of Herculaneum and its population of Negritos, but have been seriously thinking about putting a trip to the spas in Baile Herculane, Romania on my bucket list. Seems like Romania has many of such spas available all thru ought the country. I don't remember Karlin visiting any of such spas during his big visit to Romania a few years back. A pity...

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Baile_Herculane_road_1824.jpg/800px-Baile_Herculane_road_1824.jpg
    Baile Herculane in 1824.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

  381. Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire. Where is the famous German 88mm flak when you need it…? Where are pom-poms? Why isn’t Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Another Polish Perspective


    why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure
     
    Everything that goes up comes back down. If placed correctly long range systems, such as flak, litter areas that do not contain friendly troops. At short range, more precise countermeasures are desirable, such as Pantsir.

    PEACE 😇
    , @songbird
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure?
     
    Would guess that it is because drones can fly lower than bombers.

    Why isn’t Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?
     
    There were never many in Germany. Only two in Hamburg. Concrete is very energy-intensive - the inside of a cement kiln is hotter than lava.

    I assume it was mainly done for propaganda and not seen as a good use of resources otherwise.
    , @QCIC
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Drones have been around a long time and it is a bit mysterious that militaries have been taken by surprise. I guess it is a case of seeing is believing, in other words senior planners did not put full counter-measures in place against drones until they saw them in action.

    The Soviets and Russians have lots of anti-aircraft cannons. One challenge is that some drones are very small so without proximity fused rounds it is easy to miss a drone. As far as I have read there are no proximity fuses below 40 mm cannon and most of the portable antiaircraft guns are 23 mm or 30 mm. The German Gepard 35 mm has a time fuse that goes off a little before the target and is a good approach for drones and subsonic cruise missiles. I don't know if Russia has something similar. Russia and the West are both working on 57 mm guided ammunition suitable to hit drones.

    , @John Johnson
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire.

    Most of the drones on the battlefield are what they call FPV drones.

    They are hobby drones that drop grenades. The Ukrainians have refined them to where they can take out T-72 tanks which is incredible. At the start of the war they were only able to use them against troops.

    Why isn’t Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    Flak in part worked because the Germans would run calculations on the height and speed of the Allied bombers as they entered German airspace. They wouldn't just fill the skies randomly. The Germans were in fact quite clever at making those calculations for the time. They used radar but could do it with just a spotter and trigonometry.

    Anti-air guns at some point switched over to using either missiles or bullets. The current German Gepards used by the Ukrainians make quick calculations with computers/radar and then fill the sky with streams of anti-air bullets.

    One problem is that the drones can fly in pretty low. They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.

    What you are suggesting is possible but would take some time to develop. Mini flak guns that are placed outside the city that can track and hit low flying targets. But my guess is that tracking missiles hunter-drones will get better/cheaper. It would definitely be cool to see a mini flak gun that can pop out of a truck.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Gerard1234

  382. @Wokechoke
    @A123

    Stop being wilfully silly.

    Also, Hit,er was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war. Even though they were clearly superior practitioners of conventional warfare both tactics and operations, over all comers.

    Replies: @A123

    Stop being wilfully silly.

    Also, Hit,er was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war

    OK. However, for the record, “absence of conscience” is another characteristic of the Left;)

    The best solution is to avoid the Left/Right spectrum as much as possible. Populist/Globalist is much more meaningful in most cases.

    Populist brings together labour and traditional Judeo-Christian values.
    Globalist is the perfect synthesis of corporatism and SJW values.

    Hitler’s hatred of Judeo-Christians places him in the Globalist camp. That means his successors are leaders like Merkel and Scholz. AfD represents the opposite of Hitler’s policies. The problem with allowing Hitler to be incorrectly described as right is that such willful mislabelling is then used to smear parties like AfD.

    PEACE 😇

  383. @Another Polish Perspective
    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire. Where is the famous German 88mm flak when you need it...? Where are pom-poms? Why isn't Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    Replies: @A123, @songbird, @QCIC, @John Johnson

    why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure

    Everything that goes up comes back down. If placed correctly long range systems, such as flak, litter areas that do not contain friendly troops. At short range, more precise countermeasures are desirable, such as Pantsir.

    PEACE 😇

  384. @Another Polish Perspective
    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire. Where is the famous German 88mm flak when you need it...? Where are pom-poms? Why isn't Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    Replies: @A123, @songbird, @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure?

    Would guess that it is because drones can fly lower than bombers.

    Why isn’t Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    There were never many in Germany. Only two in Hamburg. Concrete is very energy-intensive – the inside of a cement kiln is hotter than lava.

    I assume it was mainly done for propaganda and not seen as a good use of resources otherwise.

  385. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here. American dead in Vietnam were somewhat under 60 000, seems entirely possible Russian casualties in Ukraine are already at that level (though of course nobody writing in this comments section can know for certain). Ukrainian losses may be even higher, and unless something changes drastically, Russia will probably win in the end, but "one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history"??? Get real, that's just not believable. If it's so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    Dmitry once speculated that Gerard was an elaborate Ukrainian troll. I don’t think so, but the comment you replied to suggests that to be the case.

    Nobody really knows each side’s casualties but one can make rough estimates. Mediazone looks at confirmed obituaries that they find, which as they write is much smaller then the actual number of deaths (it doesn’t include MIA, it doesn’t include those deaths and burials that can’t be found online which may be an issue in villages, and it lags because not all can be found right away) but can be considered an absolute lowest number. As of January 19 2024 it was 42,484:

    https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

    This number also does not include any dead from the Donbas Republic forces.

    They do not have an estimate for the actual number of killed Russian soldiers. The last time they made such an estimate seems to have been in July 2023 – it was 47,000 dead by May 2023. This number was based on a count of 26,800 confirmed deaths via online obituaries. If the ratio of confirmed deaths to actual deaths is the same now as it was in May 2023, then the number of Russian Federation military deaths (not including Donbas Republic forces) would be around 74,500.

    This is the lowest estimate out there. Our former host thinks it’s around 100-120k or so IIRC. The Ukrainian government claims 300k IIRC but I wouldn’t take that seriously.

    At any rate, Russia has certainly lost more men in this war than America has lost in all of the Vietnam war (58,300). It has lost more men then it lost in the Russo-Japanese war (upper estimate is 71,000). And all Russia has gained, has been 8% of Ukraine’s territory.

    It’s a testament to some competence by Russia’s authorities that there is no real unrest. They wisely loaded the casualties into ethnic Republics, smaller towns out in the provinces, and among convicts. People who can’t do much about it.

    • Thanks: German_reader, Mr. XYZ
  386. @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    A 60,000 Russian casualty figure seems woefully low when you consider that even Putler recently admitted to over 360,000 such losses. Recently leaked US sources claim 315,000.


    Russian President Vladimir Putin is pictured during a press conference in Moscow, Russia on December 14, 2023. Putin purportedly admitted to "363,000" troop losses in Ukraine during the event, according to military analyst Ian Matveev.
     
    https://www.newsweek.com/putin-admits-russia-suffered-huge-losses-ukraine-1852660
    The breakdown of the losses within is valuable too.

    Replies: @AP

    Those include both killed and injured IIRC, so given the ratio of killed to injured it would be around 100,000 or a bit more killed.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    You're most likely right about these figures but even still these are huge numbers for large country to lose, a country that was already experiencing a population decline even before the war. 260,000 injured and thousands of young men that have left Russia evading the war, all of this doesn't play out well for Russia's future growth. All for 8% of bombed out Ukrainian villages. Doesn't seem worth it.

    Replies: @QCIC

  387. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here. American dead in Vietnam were somewhat under 60 000, seems entirely possible Russian casualties in Ukraine are already at that level (though of course nobody writing in this comments section can know for certain). Ukrainian losses may be even higher, and unless something changes drastically, Russia will probably win in the end, but "one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history"??? Get real, that's just not believable. If it's so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    Russia will probably win in the end, but “one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history”???

    It is certainly not one-sided. It would have been if Russia were fighting Ukraine. But in reality Russia is fighting NATO. Russia will eventually win, like it did against Hitler, but the battle is going to be long and quite bloody. For now Russian casualties (which we don’t now) are much smaller than Ukrainian, as evidenced, among many other things, by explosive growth of cemeteries all over Ukraine.

    There are several reasons for that. One, the empire does not give a damn about the casualties of even those aborigines who are technically on its side. Two, Ukies are remarkably corrupt, they are stealing anywhere they can. The result is low quality of weapons and protective gear supplied to Ukie troops, as well as widespread sale of Western weapons and ammo via darknet to the highest bidder, in essence depriving Ukie troops. Three, banderite regime, having limited internal support, places loyalty above competency, so many high-ranking Ukie commanders are simply incompetent. There are other reasons, but these three are the main ones.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN


    Three, banderite regime, having limited internal support, places loyalty above competency, so many high-ranking Ukie commanders are simply incompetent.
     
    What is the Venn diagram overlap Azov zealots and alpha army officers? That is probably the cream. Does the Russian army have a list of the guys they definitely need to take out?

    I wouldn't want to be on that list.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    But in reality Russia is fighting NATO.
     
    That's partially true, since on one level this is certainly a proxy war. But NATO countries haven't really put their economies on a war footing, which limits the supplies of artillery shells etc. than can be sent to Ukraine. Maybe the West doesn't have the industrial capabilities for that anymore, at least not quickly, I don't know. But presenting this as if Russia faced NATO's full might isn't accurate either. And sorry, but the Hitler analogy is just totally unconvincing. It's true that Russia is in some way reacting to what can be seen as Western encroachments on its traditional sphere of influence, but the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN, @Derer

  388. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    It's always good when autocratic regimes purge those who are more competent. Similar to Stalin purging the Red Army, which was very bad for the Soviet people but great for the West since it made the Red Army less threatening to the West.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    It’s always good when autocratic regimes purge those who are more competent. Similar to Stalin purging the Red Army, which was very bad for the Soviet people but great for the West since it made the Red Army less threatening to the West.

    Oh it’s a complete blessing that Putin thought he could launch this war on his own and without the advice of his generals.

    Some of his generals weren’t even informed until 48 hours before the invasion.

    Then he later doubled down on his chef turned billionaire private warlord to turn things around.

    Putin’s ego has been the best military advantage for Ukraine.

  389. @songbird
    @S

    One thing that I would really like to see come out of the scrolls of Herculaneum is an ethnographic travelogue of East Asia. Perhaps, a visit to Japan before the modern Japanese even existed, or some description of Negritos where there are none today.

    But it is highly improbable that such a document was ever written, let alone survives.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I don’t know anything about the scrolls of Herculaneum and its population of Negritos, but have been seriously thinking about putting a trip to the spas in Baile Herculane, Romania on my bucket list. Seems like Romania has many of such spas available all thru ought the country. I don’t remember Karlin visiting any of such spas during his big visit to Romania a few years back. A pity…


    Baile Herculane in 1824.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Have you ever considered going to this radon spa to receive a salubrious dose of hormetic radiation?
    https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/oct/26/under-the-mountain-into-austrias-radon-spa

    In case it is overbooked, there is one in Czechia:
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180306-a-spa-where-patients-bathe-in-radiactive-water

    Or this tunnel in Germany:
    https://acuradon.de/en/radontherapie/

    I once suggested AK go and write it up but I don't think he was around to take-up my advice, which is a pity. Assume the Romans would have capitalized on the idea, if they had Geiger counters and controlled that area.

    Perhaps, German_reader could review this book:
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61109898-ancient-greek-and-roman-science

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    , @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Zakopane in Poland has some great thermal baths. There is even one named after your ancestral Bukovina! The town is very charming (albeit touristy) with Alpine mountains and great restaurants. And it’s very convenient from Krakow.

    https://discoverzakopane.com/thermal-baths-near-zakopane.html

    The only one of those that I had a chance to visit was the Chocholowskie ones, it was excellent.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  390. @Another Polish Perspective
    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire. Where is the famous German 88mm flak when you need it...? Where are pom-poms? Why isn't Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    Replies: @A123, @songbird, @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Drones have been around a long time and it is a bit mysterious that militaries have been taken by surprise. I guess it is a case of seeing is believing, in other words senior planners did not put full counter-measures in place against drones until they saw them in action.

    The Soviets and Russians have lots of anti-aircraft cannons. One challenge is that some drones are very small so without proximity fused rounds it is easy to miss a drone. As far as I have read there are no proximity fuses below 40 mm cannon and most of the portable antiaircraft guns are 23 mm or 30 mm. The German Gepard 35 mm has a time fuse that goes off a little before the target and is a good approach for drones and subsonic cruise missiles. I don’t know if Russia has something similar. Russia and the West are both working on 57 mm guided ammunition suitable to hit drones.

  391. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Those include both killed and injured IIRC, so given the ratio of killed to injured it would be around 100,000 or a bit more killed.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    You’re most likely right about these figures but even still these are huge numbers for large country to lose, a country that was already experiencing a population decline even before the war. 260,000 injured and thousands of young men that have left Russia evading the war, all of this doesn’t play out well for Russia’s future growth. All for 8% of bombed out Ukrainian villages. Doesn’t seem worth it.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The Russian military is fighting against NATO to defend the entire country. Ukraine is a proxy of the West and NATO so the fighting is in Ukraine. Many of the military leaders view this fight as existential. The losses look different from that perspective.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  392. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Ukraine is too poor to attract a lot of Germans and other people from developed countries, no? It first needs to significantly develop. And even then, what would its full potential be? Slovakia's level of GDP PPP per capita? Would that actually be attractive enough for Germans? In any case, Russia and Central Asia still have a lot of Germans and people who have up to 25% German descent.

    Was pre-WWII Prague really all that diverse? The impression that I got is that it mostly consisted of Czechs and Jews, with perhaps some Germans. Who else lived there back then in large numbers?


    -1- Islamic settlers are the problem. Enthusiastic & enforced Muslim Decolonization is the answer.
     
    Good luck getting the EU courts to approve this.

    -2- Christian Germanification is bigly desirable, and must be the government’s #1 priority.
     
    Vote AfD then, especially if they'll stop cucking on Ukriane.

    -3- To the extent that additional Judeo-Christians are needed, Ukraine could be a source. However, this needs to be tightly controlled to the actual need in Germany.
     
    Germany has very low fertility. The Reich and Fatherland needs more people!

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Ukraine is too poor to attract a lot of Germans and other people from developed countries, no? It first needs to significantly develop. And even then, what would its full potential be? Slovakia’s level of GDP PPP per capita? Would that actually be attractive enough for Germans?

    I think Ukraine will attract Brits, French and German that are dissatisfied with what has become of Western society.

    A combination of dissatisfaction with the status quo and economic opportunities from a labor shortage. There will also be contracts from Western countries.

    Was pre-WWII Prague really all that diverse? The impression that I got is that it mostly consisted of Czechs and Jews, with perhaps some Germans. Who else lived there back then in large numbers?

    Germans, Jews, Poles, some random Slavs. It was a place where Europeans could go to be anonymous. I could see that happening in Ukraine.

    Good luck getting the EU courts to approve this.

    I think you merged a post from A123 as mine. I don’t care about Christian Germanification as policy. Germany has long been more secular compared to other European countries and I don’t see that changing.

  393. @A123
    @John Johnson


    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims. What a guy.
     
    Thank you for supporting my point. LEFT Hitler wanted LEFT Islam.

    How would he be a leader of the left when he killed hundreds of thousands of leftists?
     
    Left on Left violence is normal, perhaps inevitable.

    Consider Iran after the Shah. ULTRA LEFT Islamists disposed of the merely somewhat LEFT communists. Ayatollah Khomeini, and his successor Khamenei, define anti-Semitic LEFTOID intolerance.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @John Johnson, @Wokechoke

    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims. What a guy.

    Thank you for supporting my point. LEFT Hitler wanted LEFT Islam.

    Islam was created before the left existed.

    Hitler admired the conquering and aggressive nature of Islam.

    Islam shouldn’t be described as right or left. It’s a religion.

    The left uses Islam as a tool against the West but they actually prefer Christianity in countries where there aren’t any Whites. They would prefer Africans to be Christan rather than Muslim. Islam is too restrictive against women for the left. It has values that conflict with both right and left.

    Consider Iran after the Shah. ULTRA LEFT Islamists disposed of the merely somewhat LEFT communists.

    So what? Politics makes strange alliances.

    The USSR backed a secular minority coup against a Muslim population. Chinese leftists have been suppressing Muslims since WW2.

    Islam is naturally opposed to left-wing rule. The left promotes secular government which Islam opposes. Islam holds that Muslim values are to be incorporated in all aspects of life. Islam also conflicts with the right in that it opposes free speech. Of course this can’t be stated openly. Not a selling point.

  394. @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    Russia will probably win in the end, but “one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history”???
     
    It is certainly not one-sided. It would have been if Russia were fighting Ukraine. But in reality Russia is fighting NATO. Russia will eventually win, like it did against Hitler, but the battle is going to be long and quite bloody. For now Russian casualties (which we don’t now) are much smaller than Ukrainian, as evidenced, among many other things, by explosive growth of cemeteries all over Ukraine.

    There are several reasons for that. One, the empire does not give a damn about the casualties of even those aborigines who are technically on its side. Two, Ukies are remarkably corrupt, they are stealing anywhere they can. The result is low quality of weapons and protective gear supplied to Ukie troops, as well as widespread sale of Western weapons and ammo via darknet to the highest bidder, in essence depriving Ukie troops. Three, banderite regime, having limited internal support, places loyalty above competency, so many high-ranking Ukie commanders are simply incompetent. There are other reasons, but these three are the main ones.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader

    Three, banderite regime, having limited internal support, places loyalty above competency, so many high-ranking Ukie commanders are simply incompetent.

    What is the Venn diagram overlap Azov zealots and alpha army officers? That is probably the cream. Does the Russian army have a list of the guys they definitely need to take out?

    I wouldn’t want to be on that list.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Does the Russian army have a list of the guys they definitely need to take out?
     
    I have no idea. My guess is, they don’t need any lists: the soldiers on the front lines just use their common sense. E.g., ever since two foreign mercenaries who got death sentences in DPR were exchanged last year no foreign mercenaries were taken prisoners. Considering that thousands of Ukies were taken prisoners during this period, this is not an accident, simply rational behavior of Russian fighters.

    Much of the Ukie military now consists of the unwilling cannon fodder snatched on the streets, in stores, churches, etc., forcibly “conscripted”, and hastily sent to the front. Those are taken prisoners, although most of them are killed without getting a chance to surrender. There are two groups in Ukie military that should be the prime targets of Russian soldiers: dedicated Nazis (like the backbone of Azov or Kraken battalions) and competent commanders. The overlap is not large: you need to be intelligent to be a competent commander, and you need to be rather dumb to be a dedicated ideological Nazi.

    Based on what Ukie POWs say (which is not necessarily true), barrier detachments that shoot Ukie troops trying to retreat are mostly ideological Nazis and Poles. That makes sense: Nazis have no moral scruples whatsoever, whereas Poles would have no compunction about shooting Ukies, they might even enjoy that.
  395. @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    You're most likely right about these figures but even still these are huge numbers for large country to lose, a country that was already experiencing a population decline even before the war. 260,000 injured and thousands of young men that have left Russia evading the war, all of this doesn't play out well for Russia's future growth. All for 8% of bombed out Ukrainian villages. Doesn't seem worth it.

    Replies: @QCIC

    The Russian military is fighting against NATO to defend the entire country. Ukraine is a proxy of the West and NATO so the fighting is in Ukraine. Many of the military leaders view this fight as existential. The losses look different from that perspective.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    The Russian military is fighting against NATO to defend the entire country.
     
    Ukraine's not today, and never really was a serious candidate to become a member of NATO, as JJ has pointed out to you and others here countless of times. Ukraine, understandably may have desired to become a member of NATO but was many years away from even applying. "Ukraine in NATO" is just a BS reason given to precede with a war of Russian imperialism. A smart Russia had plenty of time to lure Ukraine back into its imperial embrace by developing enticements greater than any possible enticements from the West, and it didn't need to waste valuable assets and human lives in doing so. And just think about how much they would have already made with the NS2 that was already in place and brand spanking new two years ago? Neutral Finland and Sweden are now in NATO. But Russia's policies in conducting this war don't really look very smart, do they?

    https://images.cartoonstock.com/lowres/ukraine-crisis-russian_gas-gas_prices-russia_sanctions-ukraine_crisis-economic_sanction-CS571560_low.jpg
    Another brilliant move by your boy Putler?...

  396. @Another Polish Perspective
    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire. Where is the famous German 88mm flak when you need it...? Where are pom-poms? Why isn't Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    Replies: @A123, @songbird, @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire.

    Most of the drones on the battlefield are what they call FPV drones.

    They are hobby drones that drop grenades. The Ukrainians have refined them to where they can take out T-72 tanks which is incredible. At the start of the war they were only able to use them against troops.

    Why isn’t Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    Flak in part worked because the Germans would run calculations on the height and speed of the Allied bombers as they entered German airspace. They wouldn’t just fill the skies randomly. The Germans were in fact quite clever at making those calculations for the time. They used radar but could do it with just a spotter and trigonometry.

    Anti-air guns at some point switched over to using either missiles or bullets. The current German Gepards used by the Ukrainians make quick calculations with computers/radar and then fill the sky with streams of anti-air bullets.

    One problem is that the drones can fly in pretty low. They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.

    What you are suggesting is possible but would take some time to develop. Mini flak guns that are placed outside the city that can track and hit low flying targets. But my guess is that tracking missiles hunter-drones will get better/cheaper. It would definitely be cool to see a mini flak gun that can pop out of a truck.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @John Johnson


    Most of the drones on the battlefield are what they call FPV drones.

    They are hobby drones that drop grenades. The Ukrainians have refined them to where they can take out T-72 tanks which is incredible.
     

    Yes, it is incredible and illustrates how powerful ammuniton was developed too. What do they drop, anti-tank minss...?

    Hobby drones are so slow that they could be vulnerable not just to a duck hunting shotgun, but to a simple arrow. Maybe this an idea: low-tech weapons like bows and crossbows against hobby drones. Hm, anti-drone crossbowmen units... Or snipers should change priorities to drone killing.

    , @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.
     
    Though plenty of attempts have been done like that, and is possible I suppose, there is no evidence that has actually happened you cretin.

    So Ukronazis have to defend sky against drones, dummy missiles ( about 1/6th the payload at 60-70 kg), cruise missiles, supersonic, hypersonic missiles but not against any planes approaching.........and you retards are discussing flak towers, which would also be the most unconcealable thing in the city? LMAO

    You could also consider why drones flying at least 500 km to Kiev are getting there undetected all the time . Everything drone that flies deep into Russia, despite their BS claims, is launched from inside Russian territory.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  397. German_reader says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    Russia will probably win in the end, but “one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history”???
     
    It is certainly not one-sided. It would have been if Russia were fighting Ukraine. But in reality Russia is fighting NATO. Russia will eventually win, like it did against Hitler, but the battle is going to be long and quite bloody. For now Russian casualties (which we don’t now) are much smaller than Ukrainian, as evidenced, among many other things, by explosive growth of cemeteries all over Ukraine.

    There are several reasons for that. One, the empire does not give a damn about the casualties of even those aborigines who are technically on its side. Two, Ukies are remarkably corrupt, they are stealing anywhere they can. The result is low quality of weapons and protective gear supplied to Ukie troops, as well as widespread sale of Western weapons and ammo via darknet to the highest bidder, in essence depriving Ukie troops. Three, banderite regime, having limited internal support, places loyalty above competency, so many high-ranking Ukie commanders are simply incompetent. There are other reasons, but these three are the main ones.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @German_reader

    But in reality Russia is fighting NATO.

    That’s partially true, since on one level this is certainly a proxy war. But NATO countries haven’t really put their economies on a war footing, which limits the supplies of artillery shells etc. than can be sent to Ukraine. Maybe the West doesn’t have the industrial capabilities for that anymore, at least not quickly, I don’t know. But presenting this as if Russia faced NATO’s full might isn’t accurate either. And sorry, but the Hitler analogy is just totally unconvincing. It’s true that Russia is in some way reacting to what can be seen as Western encroachments on its traditional sphere of influence, but the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @German_reader


    ...as if Russia faced NATO’s full might isn’t accurate either.
     
    True, but Russia is also not using its full might. Ukraine is the only fully engaged player. Russia hasn't mobilized and is not using all its weapons. Russia is not attacking cities like NATO or Israel do. Russia can pick a second-tier Ukie city and flatten it.

    the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.
     
    Times have changed, so it is different. But there is also a basic similarity: Europe moving-attacking-encroaching on Russia. Napoleon used Poles and Germans, Nazis had Romanians-Italians-Finns - practically all of Europe participated in Barbarossa.

    The allure of the large rich space in the east is the same. Nazis called it lebensraum, but it is a generic Western urge: they want the resources Russia has. NATO didn't expand eastward with bases, exercises, 'defensive' missiles to play cricket or make Ukies into 'happier' people. NATO expanded to over time corner and weaken Russia - it is so obvious that when people deny it they sound like idiots. But they now prefer to be idiots to admitting that they tried something aggressive and it failed.

    How was Russia supposed to react? I am still waiting for a rational and doable alternative to this war once NATO moved its expansion to Ukraine and Kiev enthusiastically signed up for it. Russia could have done nothing and sat back - in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc...That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.

    Is Russia better off? I leave that up to them, but they clearly came to a point by 2022 that the continuing status quo was a major threat - superpowers react to threats, US would, so would China, UK, France. So we have a war that Russia is winning. The real victim here are the poor Ukies who just wanted to be accepted, and the West has used them for its own goals and is killing them and their state.

    Replies: @AP

    , @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.
     
    In some ways it is, in others it isn’t. Like in case of Hitler’s war, Russia is fighting united strength of Europe. One can argue that what was united strength in 1941 is united weakness today, but the sides are the same. The outcome will also be the same.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke

    , @Derer
    @German_reader


    But presenting this as if Russia faced NATO’s full might isn’t accurate either.

     

    It is fully accurate. Is NATO territory subject to Russian attacked? In real war, and not in this slimy NATO war, using Ukrainian Christians to fight their objectives and themselves being spared from the ballistic missile destruction. The alternative is Russia engaging in a nuclear annihilation which NATO idiots are slowly pushing for. Who got more to lose what would happened to those high GDPs.

    Replies: @Beckow

  398. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I don't know anything about the scrolls of Herculaneum and its population of Negritos, but have been seriously thinking about putting a trip to the spas in Baile Herculane, Romania on my bucket list. Seems like Romania has many of such spas available all thru ought the country. I don't remember Karlin visiting any of such spas during his big visit to Romania a few years back. A pity...

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Baile_Herculane_road_1824.jpg/800px-Baile_Herculane_road_1824.jpg
    Baile Herculane in 1824.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Have you ever considered going to this radon spa to receive a salubrious dose of hormetic radiation?
    https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/oct/26/under-the-mountain-into-austrias-radon-spa

    In case it is overbooked, there is one in Czechia:
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180306-a-spa-where-patients-bathe-in-radiactive-water

    Or this tunnel in Germany:
    https://acuradon.de/en/radontherapie/

    I once suggested AK go and write it up but I don’t think he was around to take-up my advice, which is a pity. Assume the Romans would have capitalized on the idea, if they had Geiger counters and controlled that area.

    Perhaps, German_reader could review this book:
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61109898-ancient-greek-and-roman-science

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird


    Perhaps, German_reader could review this book:
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61109898-ancient-greek-and-roman-science
     
    It's short. To quote Philip K. Dick

    If I had known it was harmless I would have killed it myself.
     
    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    https://acuradon.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Ihre-weg-in-den-stollen_2.jpg

    Sure, if I were already in the vicinity of such an area, and I occasionally have flare ups of eczema, I'd probably give one of these tunnel radion spas a try, but tobe honest, the photos don't make it look too enticing (dark, dank and cool). have you tried any? What's your personal opinion?

    https://acuradon.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Ihre-weg-in-den-stollen_1.jpg n-stollen_2.jpg

    This is what I really enjoy, tropical, outdoors and warm weather (80 degrees fahrenheit):

    https://d2xuzatlfjyc9k.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/COSTA-RICA-HOT-SPRINGS-THERMAL-RESORTS.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

  399. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Have you ever considered going to this radon spa to receive a salubrious dose of hormetic radiation?
    https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/oct/26/under-the-mountain-into-austrias-radon-spa

    In case it is overbooked, there is one in Czechia:
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180306-a-spa-where-patients-bathe-in-radiactive-water

    Or this tunnel in Germany:
    https://acuradon.de/en/radontherapie/

    I once suggested AK go and write it up but I don't think he was around to take-up my advice, which is a pity. Assume the Romans would have capitalized on the idea, if they had Geiger counters and controlled that area.

    Perhaps, German_reader could review this book:
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61109898-ancient-greek-and-roman-science

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    Perhaps, German_reader could review this book:
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61109898-ancient-greek-and-roman-science

    It’s short. To quote Philip K. Dick

    If I had known it was harmless I would have killed it myself.

    • LOL: songbird
  400. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I don't know anything about the scrolls of Herculaneum and its population of Negritos, but have been seriously thinking about putting a trip to the spas in Baile Herculane, Romania on my bucket list. Seems like Romania has many of such spas available all thru ought the country. I don't remember Karlin visiting any of such spas during his big visit to Romania a few years back. A pity...

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Baile_Herculane_road_1824.jpg/800px-Baile_Herculane_road_1824.jpg
    Baile Herculane in 1824.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Zakopane in Poland has some great thermal baths. There is even one named after your ancestral Bukovina! The town is very charming (albeit touristy) with Alpine mountains and great restaurants. And it’s very convenient from Krakow.

    https://discoverzakopane.com/thermal-baths-near-zakopane.html

    The only one of those that I had a chance to visit was the Chocholowskie ones, it was excellent.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    Thanks, I'll look into it. I'm way overdo for a trip to Ukraine...I won't need to visit the spas in Putler supporting Hungary.

  401. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here. American dead in Vietnam were somewhat under 60 000, seems entirely possible Russian casualties in Ukraine are already at that level (though of course nobody writing in this comments section can know for certain). Ukrainian losses may be even higher, and unless something changes drastically, Russia will probably win in the end, but "one of the most one-sided annihilation in military history"??? Get real, that's just not believable. If it's so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here.

    Absurd nonsense. We do know quite accurate data for our initial number of forces in SMO, and we have a good idea of how many have been deployed to the SMO region since February 2024, and we have a very good idea of how many are serving in the liberated territories – but are vulnerable only to longer-range MLRS or missile strikes because they are not there for frontline activity. And those numbers likely to be in Crimea, Belarus and border regions (and Kaliningrad). With that , anyone with a brain, can see that western and ukronazi figures for our casualties are amusing lies.

    Have you actually seen ANY western figures commit to an estimate of our total initial number and those who have been deployed since the start? Of course not because then their lies about our casualties look even more braindead – statistically impossible. You want to compare the side with numerous mobilsations against the side who have had one? Look at how they are fighting to how we are fighting. Do you want to commit to estimating a number of how many are deployed in the SMO, versus how many casualties would make our military completely unable to function and how even a fraction of western psyops claims of number are ludicrous? Of course you won’t because then it because so obvious how well we have done. Because they are lying from the start – you won’t see any of these freaks commit to prediction of when we will need a next mobilisation from these fake loss “projections”

    If it’s so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?

    1. Because of 3.4% GDP growth in 2023

    2. Because taking Kiev and other major areas requires trillions of roubles in social payments, salaries and services – trillions that for social payments and salaries the west is paying them is actually a “favour” for us in some aspects – as we are paying trillions into the newly liberated territories

    3. Because we’re clearly fighting an SMO with even larger goals such as the possibility for direct fight with NATO . Kaliningrad is surrounded by the worst scum possible. Middle East. Either side wants to show and test in combat only some technological improvements, tactical and systematic actions they want to show in the SMO – plenty of these things they don’t want to place into action until absolutely necessary – such as a direct Russia vs America war as example.

    4. Because we have commitments to Belarus, which directly showed in the northern front of our operations during the opening stage. Belarus now is as safe as Poland (for the moment) is, though Belarus is not close to a participant on our side of SMO as Poland and the other NATO whores are to 404.

    5. Because depleting the enemy and NATO resources is a legitimate goal, and our economic performance allows this to happen without any particular time restrictions other than only strategic weapon developments from NATO which at moment are far behind Russia

    6. Because from on our side – no war in history has had so much non-military related engineering projects constructed in what is still recognised as a warzone. Fighting as we are doing, at this rate, allows this construction/reconstruction to occur

    7. West prepared 404 for an insurgency war, Russia annihilated them in many of the areas we wanted them to. They are fighting the type of war (outside of the Donbass) the west did not want them to, although either way its ukrop plankton dying not too much of themselves.

    8. Because Nazi Germany scum made us fight for every city and town, costing us millions in lives……..while literally getting on their knees and giving western nations the keys to cities and town on the western front. In Donbass we are fighting in the most industrialised, reinforced concreted, urbanised parts of the planet that were actually partly designed to be defended in a nuclear war…and since 2014 have had 8 years of extensive fortifications built in addition. And its not just one or 2 big cities, its numerous dense, urbanised and industrial towns and settlements in Donbass that require serious effort for each – irrelevant of their actual populations ( some are big, some not so big) . Soviet urbanisation is on such a scale it makes liberation far more difficult than it would be for Frankfurt and linked industrial settlements around it or for Hamburg etc.

    9. We are fighting against cannon fodder vermin that desperately need the Donbass area and its people with its huge intellectual and industrial capital……but also have a deranged national ideology that actually wants as much of the Donbass and these people to be destroyed as possible, even though it most concentrated population of “Ukrainians”. Should we intend to fight the ukronazis is EVERY settlement in Donbass, as they want us to? Have a Mariupol scenario everywhere? No. Some of these places may appear like villages to Germans unfamiliar with the area, but in reality they are not.Prolonged engagement in certain settlements getting as many ukronazis to die as possible, saves other places . Win or lose, khokhols are not disturbed by these places getting destroyed…….that’s why things will be completely different for Dnepropetrovsk , where too many of the elites couldn’t allow that to be destroyed as they could tolerate for the Donbass. Its too much of a economic, transport, human capital, industrial hub and not targeted by khokhol insecurity complex…….to be allowed for fighting anywhere as intense as in Donbass. Without Donbass, 404 is dead, without Donbass and Dnepropetrovsk…..404 is dead and metaphorically radioactively decaying for 5000 years as a national idea.

    10.Because west decided for these lemmings, that control of the biggest nuclear power plant is not a serious negotiating position for Russia. I suspect Russia would have thought this scenario from Banderastan would be impossible to not reach some agreement.

    • Thanks: Derer
    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    That's all totally unconvincing. Russian kia must be somewhere in the tens of thousands by now. I find it bizarre that you're denying this. And why are you still using this idiotic term SMO, as if this were some minor police action? It's a high-intensity war, of a kind not seen in Europe since 1945, high losses are inevitable (and I don't think Western forces would necessarily do any better than Russians and Ukrainians in such a kind of conflict. Quite possibly they would do worse).
    Impossible to know for sure of course how high losses actually are, will be a long time (if ever) until that is known. All one can do now is hazard a rough estimate, or gather some impressionistic datapoints, like in the story below.
    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-officers/

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @QCIC

    , @Mikel
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for those very convincing arguments but you should vote for Boris Nadezhdin in the upcoming elections and help make Russia great again. So should AnonfromTN.

    This has all been a sad misunderstanding. We never needed Ukraine in NATO at all. That doesn't increase our security in any way. What we really need in NATO for our own security is Russia. If we left behind that stupid and anachronistic enmity we could finally start reducing those huge nuclear arsenals to non-civilization destructing levels and we could together use what remains of them to confront an alien invasion, or the yellow peril (if they ever think of going further than filling our stores with crappy products), or something like that. But we now need someone like Nadezhdin in the Kremlin. Putin tried a quick tour de force in Ukraine to send a strong message to the West but it didn't quite work as intended. Nadezhdin's plans of applying Russia's constitution to the letter and restoring normal relations with the West are what's best for everybody at this point in time.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

  402. lol, wtf, Biden is blocking LNG exports now, because of the climate crisis? Hahaha, I guess it’s really Morgenthau plan 2.0 now.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @German_reader

    Have heard some suggest that the Greens were originally conceived of as a way for the Soviets to subvert West German industrial policy, and that when the USSR fell, they rapidly changed loyalties in exchange for financial support from the US, but still held to the same purpose, to be a tool used by foreigners to destroy Germany economically.

    But I am not sure it can't be explained by ideology alone. I think the radical Left basically switched sides, after a while, as they saw the US as a superior vehicle to promote global political change in that direction.

    BTW, I was surprised to see this poll out of France where only 58% of Greens were in favor of ethnic replacement. Wonder what the ethnic breakdown of that would be. (Not that they record such things.)

    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/01/7-in-10-french-citizens-opposed-to-solving-demographic-decline-with-immigration/

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @A123
    @German_reader

    The Veggie-In-Chief's administration is trying to break things on their way out: (1)


    EVERYTHING IS GOING SWIMMINGLY: The U.S. just sold its helium stockpile. Here’s why the medical world is worried.

    On Thursday, the U.S. government sold the Federal Helium Reserve, a massive underground stockpile based in Amarillo, Texas, that supplies up to 30% of the country’s helium.

    Once the deal is finalized, the buyer — which will likely be the highest bidder, the industrial gas company Messer — will claim some 425 miles of pipelines spanning Texas, Kansas and Oklahoma, plus about 1 billion cubic feet of the only element on Earth cold enough to make an MRI machine work.
     

     
    This is the type of mistake that cannot be unwound.

    At least a moratorium on new LNG export facilities can be lifted in Trump's 2nd term. Though, my guess is cheaper pipeline gas will be more available in a few years. Russia will come back and/or Norway will expand. Shipping U.S. LNG to continental Europe, while useful as a contingency option, is economically unsound for the long haul.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://instapundit.com/628738/
  403. Eric Schmidt is now a military analyst, in addition to his previous expertise as guru coder, corporate bigfoot, tech financier, burning man performance artist, satanist, and child rapist.

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/ukraine-losing-drone-war-eric-schmidt

    Has he climbed to the top of Mt. Everest yet?

  404. German_reader says:
    @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here.
     
    Absurd nonsense. We do know quite accurate data for our initial number of forces in SMO, and we have a good idea of how many have been deployed to the SMO region since February 2024, and we have a very good idea of how many are serving in the liberated territories - but are vulnerable only to longer-range MLRS or missile strikes because they are not there for frontline activity. And those numbers likely to be in Crimea, Belarus and border regions (and Kaliningrad). With that , anyone with a brain, can see that western and ukronazi figures for our casualties are amusing lies.

    Have you actually seen ANY western figures commit to an estimate of our total initial number and those who have been deployed since the start? Of course not because then their lies about our casualties look even more braindead - statistically impossible. You want to compare the side with numerous mobilsations against the side who have had one? Look at how they are fighting to how we are fighting. Do you want to commit to estimating a number of how many are deployed in the SMO, versus how many casualties would make our military completely unable to function and how even a fraction of western psyops claims of number are ludicrous? Of course you won't because then it because so obvious how well we have done. Because they are lying from the start - you won't see any of these freaks commit to prediction of when we will need a next mobilisation from these fake loss "projections"

    If it’s so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?
     
    1. Because of 3.4% GDP growth in 2023

    2. Because taking Kiev and other major areas requires trillions of roubles in social payments, salaries and services - trillions that for social payments and salaries the west is paying them is actually a "favour" for us in some aspects - as we are paying trillions into the newly liberated territories

    3. Because we're clearly fighting an SMO with even larger goals such as the possibility for direct fight with NATO . Kaliningrad is surrounded by the worst scum possible. Middle East. Either side wants to show and test in combat only some technological improvements, tactical and systematic actions they want to show in the SMO - plenty of these things they don't want to place into action until absolutely necessary - such as a direct Russia vs America war as example.

    4. Because we have commitments to Belarus, which directly showed in the northern front of our operations during the opening stage. Belarus now is as safe as Poland (for the moment) is, though Belarus is not close to a participant on our side of SMO as Poland and the other NATO whores are to 404.

    5. Because depleting the enemy and NATO resources is a legitimate goal, and our economic performance allows this to happen without any particular time restrictions other than only strategic weapon developments from NATO which at moment are far behind Russia

    6. Because from on our side - no war in history has had so much non-military related engineering projects constructed in what is still recognised as a warzone. Fighting as we are doing, at this rate, allows this construction/reconstruction to occur

    7. West prepared 404 for an insurgency war, Russia annihilated them in many of the areas we wanted them to. They are fighting the type of war (outside of the Donbass) the west did not want them to, although either way its ukrop plankton dying not too much of themselves.

    8. Because Nazi Germany scum made us fight for every city and town, costing us millions in lives........while literally getting on their knees and giving western nations the keys to cities and town on the western front. In Donbass we are fighting in the most industrialised, reinforced concreted, urbanised parts of the planet that were actually partly designed to be defended in a nuclear war...and since 2014 have had 8 years of extensive fortifications built in addition. And its not just one or 2 big cities, its numerous dense, urbanised and industrial towns and settlements in Donbass that require serious effort for each - irrelevant of their actual populations ( some are big, some not so big) . Soviet urbanisation is on such a scale it makes liberation far more difficult than it would be for Frankfurt and linked industrial settlements around it or for Hamburg etc.


    9. We are fighting against cannon fodder vermin that desperately need the Donbass area and its people with its huge intellectual and industrial capital......but also have a deranged national ideology that actually wants as much of the Donbass and these people to be destroyed as possible, even though it most concentrated population of "Ukrainians". Should we intend to fight the ukronazis is EVERY settlement in Donbass, as they want us to? Have a Mariupol scenario everywhere? No. Some of these places may appear like villages to Germans unfamiliar with the area, but in reality they are not.Prolonged engagement in certain settlements getting as many ukronazis to die as possible, saves other places . Win or lose, khokhols are not disturbed by these places getting destroyed.......that's why things will be completely different for Dnepropetrovsk , where too many of the elites couldn't allow that to be destroyed as they could tolerate for the Donbass. Its too much of a economic, transport, human capital, industrial hub and not targeted by khokhol insecurity complex.......to be allowed for fighting anywhere as intense as in Donbass. Without Donbass, 404 is dead, without Donbass and Dnepropetrovsk.....404 is dead and metaphorically radioactively decaying for 5000 years as a national idea.

    10.Because west decided for these lemmings, that control of the biggest nuclear power plant is not a serious negotiating position for Russia. I suspect Russia would have thought this scenario from Banderastan would be impossible to not reach some agreement.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mikel

    That’s all totally unconvincing. Russian kia must be somewhere in the tens of thousands by now. I find it bizarre that you’re denying this. And why are you still using this idiotic term SMO, as if this were some minor police action? It’s a high-intensity war, of a kind not seen in Europe since 1945, high losses are inevitable (and I don’t think Western forces would necessarily do any better than Russians and Ukrainians in such a kind of conflict. Quite possibly they would do worse).
    Impossible to know for sure of course how high losses actually are, will be a long time (if ever) until that is known. All one can do now is hazard a rough estimate, or gather some impressionistic datapoints, like in the story below.
    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-officers/

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    That’s all totally unconvincing. Russian kia must be somewhere in the tens of thousands by now. I find it bizarre that you’re denying this.
     
    Smart debating tactics - switch the fact that you were completely unable to give a sensible number of casualties......and give the illusion that it was me doing this!! Shoigu or Konashenkov said after 7 months of SMO that 67000 ukrops had died and just under 6000 of our heroes had gone. My estimate, which I never gave to you, would be that there is no reason at all for our casualties in every 6 months interval since then to exceed that number much. From how the next 6 month period of the SMO was fought, our casualties would have been significantly less, then more in the next 2 periods of 6 months that takes us to this date. So as I said, insanely high kill ratios in our favour is what I think and is obvious.

    Those extrapolated numbers for that and our injuries aligns with the numbers we have deployed - which are (mostly) available numbers

    Despite NATOs best efforts, there is no conceivable way this is like the Syrian war ( where for the first 2 years they could get Assad who they don't like, and the rebel forces (many of them terrorists which at least officially they don't like) to destroy eachother in equal high amounts. Or how it's sometimes thought that WW2 tactics of the Anglo-Americans were precisely for the Soviets and Nazi Germany for fight and equally eliminate each other as they did ( not on civilians though of course)

    Everything suggests this is going much better for us then it did for the Americans in the Korean and Vietnam wars where they weren't even close to being the primary fighting forces there and did conduct a mass strategic bombing campaign on Korea. Doesn't mean I am comforted by these ratios when thinking of our guys defending us........but it at least gives a perspective to it, and justifies the way we are conducting the SMO

    Ukronazi deaths were likely an underestimate then.........and significantly increased rate of them after then.

    All one can do now is hazard a rough estimate, or gather some impressionistic datapoints, like in the story below.
    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-officers/
     
    I thought you were a smart guy? Why are you linking me reuters crap? What is wrong with you?
    We can though, as I said, make estimates of how many and where they are deployed
    , @QCIC
    @German_reader

    Everyone should call it the SMO to stay focussed on what is really happening and recognize that the result is absolutely nothing like a true NATO-Russia balls to wall conflict. Considering how close this combat is to Russia all the major cities in Ukraine are in miraculously good shape. The simplest non-conspiratorial explanation is that Russia does not want to destroy them. It is the single most blatant fact on the ground and no one wants to accept this.

    Russia is keeping this an old-school artillery battle since it diminishes the Ukrainian fighting force with the least civilian casualties. So when the Ukrainian white flag eventually goes up the ratio of guerrilla fighters to citizens will be a low as possible.

    Replies: @German_reader

  405. @German_reader
    lol, wtf, Biden is blocking LNG exports now, because of the climate crisis? Hahaha, I guess it's really Morgenthau plan 2.0 now.

    Replies: @songbird, @A123

    Have heard some suggest that the Greens were originally conceived of as a way for the Soviets to subvert West German industrial policy, and that when the USSR fell, they rapidly changed loyalties in exchange for financial support from the US, but still held to the same purpose, to be a tool used by foreigners to destroy Germany economically.

    But I am not sure it can’t be explained by ideology alone. I think the radical Left basically switched sides, after a while, as they saw the US as a superior vehicle to promote global political change in that direction.

    BTW, I was surprised to see this poll out of France where only 58% of Greens were in favor of ethnic replacement. Wonder what the ethnic breakdown of that would be. (Not that they record such things.)

    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/01/7-in-10-french-citizens-opposed-to-solving-demographic-decline-with-immigration/

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @songbird


    ...the Greens were originally conceived of as a way for the Soviets to subvert West German industrial policy
     
    Commies were fanatical steel eaters who loved heavy industry more than anything else - they would never subvert it. They thought the industrial workers and miners were their natural allies.

    No, the Greens were an organized outgrowth of the 60-70's quasi-uprisings by the fake boomer rebels, funded and organized as an alternative to the old socialist left. From the beginning Greens were used as a militant counter-force to any peace - they are an interventionist war party. That's not an 'oversight', that's who they are.


    only 58% of Greens were in favor of ethnic replacement.
     
    People can have different reasons for wanting to 'replace' the old Western nations. On some days observing the incredible stupidity and self-denial by the people who they vote for - Macron, Scholz, Meloni, Starmer - I may also answer: just replace them. How much worse can the new people be? Is Zidane really worse than the average 55-year childless fat Lyon liberal and his confused dilli-dallying wife?

    Replies: @German_reader

  406. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    But in reality Russia is fighting NATO.
     
    That's partially true, since on one level this is certainly a proxy war. But NATO countries haven't really put their economies on a war footing, which limits the supplies of artillery shells etc. than can be sent to Ukraine. Maybe the West doesn't have the industrial capabilities for that anymore, at least not quickly, I don't know. But presenting this as if Russia faced NATO's full might isn't accurate either. And sorry, but the Hitler analogy is just totally unconvincing. It's true that Russia is in some way reacting to what can be seen as Western encroachments on its traditional sphere of influence, but the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN, @Derer

    …as if Russia faced NATO’s full might isn’t accurate either.

    True, but Russia is also not using its full might. Ukraine is the only fully engaged player. Russia hasn’t mobilized and is not using all its weapons. Russia is not attacking cities like NATO or Israel do. Russia can pick a second-tier Ukie city and flatten it.

    the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.

    Times have changed, so it is different. But there is also a basic similarity: Europe moving-attacking-encroaching on Russia. Napoleon used Poles and Germans, Nazis had Romanians-Italians-Finns – practically all of Europe participated in Barbarossa.

    The allure of the large rich space in the east is the same. Nazis called it lebensraum, but it is a generic Western urge: they want the resources Russia has. NATO didn’t expand eastward with bases, exercises, ‘defensive‘ missiles to play cricket or make Ukies into ‘happier’ people. NATO expanded to over time corner and weaken Russia – it is so obvious that when people deny it they sound like idiots. But they now prefer to be idiots to admitting that they tried something aggressive and it failed.

    How was Russia supposed to react? I am still waiting for a rational and doable alternative to this war once NATO moved its expansion to Ukraine and Kiev enthusiastically signed up for it. Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.

    Is Russia better off? I leave that up to them, but they clearly came to a point by 2022 that the continuing status quo was a major threat – superpowers react to threats, US would, so would China, UK, France. So we have a war that Russia is winning. The real victim here are the poor Ukies who just wanted to be accepted, and the West has used them for its own goals and is killing them and their state.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    True, but Russia is also not using its full might. Ukraine is the only fully engaged player
     
    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.

    How was Russia supposed to react? I am still waiting for a rational and doable alternative to this war once NATO moved its expansion to Ukraine and Kiev enthusiastically signed up for it
     
    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

  407. @German_reader
    lol, wtf, Biden is blocking LNG exports now, because of the climate crisis? Hahaha, I guess it's really Morgenthau plan 2.0 now.

    Replies: @songbird, @A123

    The Veggie-In-Chief’s administration is trying to break things on their way out: (1)

    EVERYTHING IS GOING SWIMMINGLY: The U.S. just sold its helium stockpile. Here’s why the medical world is worried.

    On Thursday, the U.S. government sold the Federal Helium Reserve, a massive underground stockpile based in Amarillo, Texas, that supplies up to 30% of the country’s helium.

    Once the deal is finalized, the buyer — which will likely be the highest bidder, the industrial gas company Messer — will claim some 425 miles of pipelines spanning Texas, Kansas and Oklahoma, plus about 1 billion cubic feet of the only element on Earth cold enough to make an MRI machine work.

    This is the type of mistake that cannot be unwound.

    At least a moratorium on new LNG export facilities can be lifted in Trump’s 2nd term. Though, my guess is cheaper pipeline gas will be more available in a few years. Russia will come back and/or Norway will expand. Shipping U.S. LNG to continental Europe, while useful as a contingency option, is economically unsound for the long haul.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://instapundit.com/628738/

  408. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The Russian military is fighting against NATO to defend the entire country. Ukraine is a proxy of the West and NATO so the fighting is in Ukraine. Many of the military leaders view this fight as existential. The losses look different from that perspective.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The Russian military is fighting against NATO to defend the entire country.

    Ukraine’s not today, and never really was a serious candidate to become a member of NATO, as JJ has pointed out to you and others here countless of times. Ukraine, understandably may have desired to become a member of NATO but was many years away from even applying. “Ukraine in NATO” is just a BS reason given to precede with a war of Russian imperialism. A smart Russia had plenty of time to lure Ukraine back into its imperial embrace by developing enticements greater than any possible enticements from the West, and it didn’t need to waste valuable assets and human lives in doing so. And just think about how much they would have already made with the NS2 that was already in place and brand spanking new two years ago? Neutral Finland and Sweden are now in NATO. But Russia’s policies in conducting this war don’t really look very smart, do they?
    Another brilliant move by your boy Putler?…

  409. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Zakopane in Poland has some great thermal baths. There is even one named after your ancestral Bukovina! The town is very charming (albeit touristy) with Alpine mountains and great restaurants. And it’s very convenient from Krakow.

    https://discoverzakopane.com/thermal-baths-near-zakopane.html

    The only one of those that I had a chance to visit was the Chocholowskie ones, it was excellent.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Thanks, I’ll look into it. I’m way overdo for a trip to Ukraine…I won’t need to visit the spas in Putler supporting Hungary.

  410. @songbird
    @German_reader

    Have heard some suggest that the Greens were originally conceived of as a way for the Soviets to subvert West German industrial policy, and that when the USSR fell, they rapidly changed loyalties in exchange for financial support from the US, but still held to the same purpose, to be a tool used by foreigners to destroy Germany economically.

    But I am not sure it can't be explained by ideology alone. I think the radical Left basically switched sides, after a while, as they saw the US as a superior vehicle to promote global political change in that direction.

    BTW, I was surprised to see this poll out of France where only 58% of Greens were in favor of ethnic replacement. Wonder what the ethnic breakdown of that would be. (Not that they record such things.)

    https://www.amren.com/news/2024/01/7-in-10-french-citizens-opposed-to-solving-demographic-decline-with-immigration/

    Replies: @Beckow

    …the Greens were originally conceived of as a way for the Soviets to subvert West German industrial policy

    Commies were fanatical steel eaters who loved heavy industry more than anything else – they would never subvert it. They thought the industrial workers and miners were their natural allies.

    No, the Greens were an organized outgrowth of the 60-70’s quasi-uprisings by the fake boomer rebels, funded and organized as an alternative to the old socialist left. From the beginning Greens were used as a militant counter-force to any peace – they are an interventionist war party. That’s not an ‘oversight’, that’s who they are.

    only 58% of Greens were in favor of ethnic replacement.

    People can have different reasons for wanting to ‘replace‘ the old Western nations. On some days observing the incredible stupidity and self-denial by the people who they vote for – Macron, Scholz, Meloni, Starmer – I may also answer: just replace them. How much worse can the new people be? Is Zidane really worse than the average 55-year childless fat Lyon liberal and his confused dilli-dallying wife?

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Beckow


    From the beginning Greens were used as a militant counter-force to any peace – they are an interventionist war party.

     

    They weren't in the 1980s, when they were widely seen as the "peace party" for the kind of people afraid of nuclear war, skeptical of NATO etc. The change gradually came about in the 1990s, with all that "never again" human rights discourse about "humanitarian interventions", especially in the context of the conflicts in ex-Yugoslavia (and to a lesser extent other humanitarian disasters where "the world did nothing" like the genocide in Rwanda). But yes, today they are total fanatics who are the most enthusiastic supporters of a global crusade against autocracies in German politics (and convinced that all their domestic enemies are supported by/in league with Putin and other autocrats abroad). Essentially neocon-like in their view of the world. There's a certain logic to that kind of development (all the more so when you consider that some of these people were in Maoist sects during the 1970s...), but still must have been hard to predict when the party came into existence.

    Replies: @Beckow

  411. Did you guys hear about today’s triumph of Western humanitarian values? UN court ordered Israel to ensure that its military murders the next 30,000 Palestinians without violating anti-genocide convention.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN

    Genocide is a high bar. If I understand correctly, the court did establish Israel has committed war crimes and called for Israel to change its tactics/ease the blockade. This should create additional pressure on Biden's administration (and the EU, to the extent it matters) to rein in the Israelis.

    , @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The 'Court' basically said, 'ok, kill them all, but don't boast about it in public...'. Some in Israel got too excited and thought that now they can say what they want - and it backfired in the media.

    It was similar to the Maidan enthusiasts who were yelling "kill the Moskali" - an ethnic hate crime if there ever was one - and then proceeded to do it in Odessa and elsewhere. They actually thought that the West will reward them for it - they don't understand how the West plays the game. The bosses had to fly to Kiev to explain the basic Western value: you never celebrate while killing the unter-mensch. That comes later.

    The goddamn natives can be so undisciplined, it can be embarrassing...thus the 'Court'...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @A123
    @AnonfromTN

    The pathetic ICJ returned an predictable, anti-Semitic, one sided report. It has no enforcement powers, so every serious nation simply ignores them. The fact that the deeply racist South African government is involved made the entire event more comedic.

    Use of human shields is a war crime. Did the ICJ order Hamas to stop? Nope. With no human shields, the civilian casualty rate would drop sharply. (1)


    Former Israeli Chief Justice Aharon Barak dissented from the preliminary ruling of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) Friday on whether Israel is committing “genocide” Friday, saying the court “has wrongly sought to impute the crime of Cain to Abel.”

    As Breitbart News reported, the ICJ issued a blistering anti-Israel ruling in which it failed to condemn the terrorist attack by Hamas that launched the war October 7. But in the end, all it did was order Israel to obey international law and write a report.
     
    The reality is that indigenous Palestinian Jews are in an existential fight for survival. The IDF is fully compliant with international law, using reasonable force against military targets.

    Why would native Jews commit suicide by surrendering to Hamas hostage takers & murders? Those requesting such capitulation must know they will be laughed at and disregarded.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/01/26/israeli-judge-dissents-icj-wrongly-sought-to-impute-the-crime-of-cain-to-abel/

    Replies: @Derer

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    I didn't see it but I heard the BBC NYTimes headline was international court ruled Israel isn't committing genocide [yet]. The court omitted ruling whether or not Israel had already committed genocide because they are still looking over the evidence. Which is growing daily. This is a preliminary ruling which just says don't kill any more civilians and let the relief supplies in while we continue to work on it.

    Meanwhile the U. S. State Department continues to scoff at the complaint and deny the evidence that is on the internet 24/7.

    Ukraine v. Russia is disappearing into quicksand.

  412. @German_reader
    @Coconuts


    The direction Alain de Benoist and the Nouvelle Droite guys took seems more interesting
     
    I'm inclined to agree, at least there seems to be some real intellectual content there (just my general impression, unfortunately haven't engaged deeply with Nouvelle Droite thought; it's certainly had some influence on parts of the German right though). But hasn't de Benoist gone trough a rather eccentric, or even erratic, intellectual development? I've certainly seen quite a bit of criticism of many of the positions he's alleged to hold (or have held at one point in time), like 3rd worldism, eco-socialism or a kind of right-wing antiracism (though left-wingers of course would claim much of that is just pretense, to make his ideas seem more palatable)...can't really judge it myself.

    I think the past few years have produced a kind of shock effect, at least in the UK
     
    Personally I've always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. But of course since 2014/15 everything is on another level and steadily escalating in a way I couldn't have imagined. In retrospect it's clear the seeds for this development were already present by the 1980s and 1990s at the latest, but at the time it probably wasn't obvious.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Coconuts

    But hasn’t de Benoist gone trough a rather eccentric, or even erratic, intellectual development?

    Afaik he has held most of those positions, the third-worldism seems to have been quite popular in France in the immediate post-colonial period, even on the far-right (Maurice Bardeche was writing about it as part of the future of fascism in the 60s), but now I would guess it has much less relevance because of the decolonisation movement, the scale of immigration etc. The context for it has changed so much.

    [MORE]

    I think the right-wing anti-racism otoh is one of the more interesting positions, as part of the arguments for the Ethnopluralism idea de Benoist and the GRECE guys started claiming that Enlightenment liberalism represented true racism, as it sought to impose a single cultural tradition on all of humanity. Whereas they were arguing for the right to ethnocultural difference and distinction. It seems like it stirred up some debate in the 80s, Pierre Taguieff wrote the book I mentioned earlier in the thread partly as a response to Ethnopluralism coming from the old far-right and the left wing SOS-racisme movement that was developing at the same time.   

    Imo this was a meaty debate, Taguieff used a systematic analysis of the concept of racism to show that Ethnopluralism is probably not plausible as a genuine anti-racist concept, but at the same time he goes into a lot of detail about the problems of anti-racism; he has predictions about how anti-racism seemed to have the potential to become a new religioid utopian movement, replacing Communism, that traditional liberalism would be unable to resist it, it would generate a witch-hunt mentality and so on.   

    If someone had the time to go into it there should be some relevant material for current debates in the Anglosphere; de Benoist also published another book about identity quite recently that I would be interested in reading.

    Personally I’ve always been pessimistic and had serious misgivings about the way Germany was developing already in the 2000s. 

    I remember that I was really pessimistic in the years after leaving university, maybe it was because certain trends were already developing there, it looked like they were going to spread and I had some kind of bad intuition about them. After some time I started thinking it must have been more about my own psychology, because there wasn’t a lot of ambient interest in decadence themes in those years. The last few years though have been interesting, because now things seem to be suggesting the opposite.

    • Thanks: German_reader
  413. German_reader says:
    @AnonfromTN
    Did you guys hear about today’s triumph of Western humanitarian values? UN court ordered Israel to ensure that its military murders the next 30,000 Palestinians without violating anti-genocide convention.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Beckow, @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Genocide is a high bar. If I understand correctly, the court did establish Israel has committed war crimes and called for Israel to change its tactics/ease the blockade. This should create additional pressure on Biden’s administration (and the EU, to the extent it matters) to rein in the Israelis.

  414. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN


    Three, banderite regime, having limited internal support, places loyalty above competency, so many high-ranking Ukie commanders are simply incompetent.
     
    What is the Venn diagram overlap Azov zealots and alpha army officers? That is probably the cream. Does the Russian army have a list of the guys they definitely need to take out?

    I wouldn't want to be on that list.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Does the Russian army have a list of the guys they definitely need to take out?

    I have no idea. My guess is, they don’t need any lists: the soldiers on the front lines just use their common sense. E.g., ever since two foreign mercenaries who got death sentences in DPR were exchanged last year no foreign mercenaries were taken prisoners. Considering that thousands of Ukies were taken prisoners during this period, this is not an accident, simply rational behavior of Russian fighters.

    Much of the Ukie military now consists of the unwilling cannon fodder snatched on the streets, in stores, churches, etc., forcibly “conscripted”, and hastily sent to the front. Those are taken prisoners, although most of them are killed without getting a chance to surrender. There are two groups in Ukie military that should be the prime targets of Russian soldiers: dedicated Nazis (like the backbone of Azov or Kraken battalions) and competent commanders. The overlap is not large: you need to be intelligent to be a competent commander, and you need to be rather dumb to be a dedicated ideological Nazi.

    Based on what Ukie POWs say (which is not necessarily true), barrier detachments that shoot Ukie troops trying to retreat are mostly ideological Nazis and Poles. That makes sense: Nazis have no moral scruples whatsoever, whereas Poles would have no compunction about shooting Ukies, they might even enjoy that.

  415. German_reader says:
    @Beckow
    @songbird


    ...the Greens were originally conceived of as a way for the Soviets to subvert West German industrial policy
     
    Commies were fanatical steel eaters who loved heavy industry more than anything else - they would never subvert it. They thought the industrial workers and miners were their natural allies.

    No, the Greens were an organized outgrowth of the 60-70's quasi-uprisings by the fake boomer rebels, funded and organized as an alternative to the old socialist left. From the beginning Greens were used as a militant counter-force to any peace - they are an interventionist war party. That's not an 'oversight', that's who they are.


    only 58% of Greens were in favor of ethnic replacement.
     
    People can have different reasons for wanting to 'replace' the old Western nations. On some days observing the incredible stupidity and self-denial by the people who they vote for - Macron, Scholz, Meloni, Starmer - I may also answer: just replace them. How much worse can the new people be? Is Zidane really worse than the average 55-year childless fat Lyon liberal and his confused dilli-dallying wife?

    Replies: @German_reader

    From the beginning Greens were used as a militant counter-force to any peace – they are an interventionist war party.

    They weren’t in the 1980s, when they were widely seen as the “peace party” for the kind of people afraid of nuclear war, skeptical of NATO etc. The change gradually came about in the 1990s, with all that “never again” human rights discourse about “humanitarian interventions”, especially in the context of the conflicts in ex-Yugoslavia (and to a lesser extent other humanitarian disasters where “the world did nothing” like the genocide in Rwanda). But yes, today they are total fanatics who are the most enthusiastic supporters of a global crusade against autocracies in German politics (and convinced that all their domestic enemies are supported by/in league with Putin and other autocrats abroad). Essentially neocon-like in their view of the world. There’s a certain logic to that kind of development (all the more so when you consider that some of these people were in Maoist sects during the 1970s…), but still must have been hard to predict when the party came into existence.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @German_reader

    The 80's escaped me, even most of 90's are a blurr...:) Who can forget the leather-jacketed street-thug-slash-Maoist intellectual Joshka Fisher yelling "On Beograd! bomb the savages!!!". He was giddy with blood-lust. Maybe he missed his street fighting days.

    It was oddly reminiscent of the 1914 madness in Vienna also rushing "On Beograd". But I take your point that earlier there were anti-nuke peace-loving Greens. Idiocy takes many forms, they are slowly exploring all of them.

    The "new parties" that have popped up all over Europe often exist for a reason although some are genuine at the beginning. It is a natural dynamic in a "democracy", an obvious way to game the outcomes.

    A few years back a new phenomenon of the "Pirate parties" showed up (free wifi or something...) Czechia actually elected one led by a pony-tailed moron who used to smoke hash in the Louisiana marshes (don't ask). Predictably they are pro-war, pro-open borders, but still also pro-hash. More the world changes, more it stays the same...

    Replies: @German_reader

  416. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    But in reality Russia is fighting NATO.
     
    That's partially true, since on one level this is certainly a proxy war. But NATO countries haven't really put their economies on a war footing, which limits the supplies of artillery shells etc. than can be sent to Ukraine. Maybe the West doesn't have the industrial capabilities for that anymore, at least not quickly, I don't know. But presenting this as if Russia faced NATO's full might isn't accurate either. And sorry, but the Hitler analogy is just totally unconvincing. It's true that Russia is in some way reacting to what can be seen as Western encroachments on its traditional sphere of influence, but the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN, @Derer

    the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.

    In some ways it is, in others it isn’t. Like in case of Hitler’s war, Russia is fighting united strength of Europe. One can argue that what was united strength in 1941 is united weakness today, but the sides are the same. The outcome will also be the same.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...One can argue that what was united strength in 1941 is united weakness today
     
    There are too many of them, literally everybody in Euroland is in on it, last time I checked even Switzerland is fighting 'Russia'. It doesn't work, they lack focus.

    Nazis also demanded that the allies put their skin in the game - even the Spaniards sent a small army. That is unpleasant, but it creates cohesion. Now we have the combined weakness reinforced by disengagement. Only the Ukies are really dying for the cause - this could end really badly.

    No matter what happens, if we make it through alive, West will never look back and admit what they did - it will be declared forgotten like all the failed wars: lies, omissions, and just flat "don't mention it!"...they don't know how to plan or win, but they know how to cope. The narrative is already being slowly adjusted ("Azov sea? we don't care"...)

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    Russia is fighting united strength of Europe.
     
    Another one of your putleresque fantasies. Russia is fighting a Ukrainian military only in Ukraine. Few if any Europeans are directly fighting in this war. Supplying weaponry to Ukraine is a far cry from actually fighting with boots on the ground, a concept that seems to evade you.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @Wokechoke
    @AnonfromTN

    It’s basically the same alliance

  417. @AnonfromTN
    Did you guys hear about today’s triumph of Western humanitarian values? UN court ordered Israel to ensure that its military murders the next 30,000 Palestinians without violating anti-genocide convention.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Beckow, @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard

    The ‘Court’ basically said, ‘ok, kill them all, but don’t boast about it in public…‘. Some in Israel got too excited and thought that now they can say what they want – and it backfired in the media.

    It was similar to the Maidan enthusiasts who were yelling “kill the Moskali” – an ethnic hate crime if there ever was one – and then proceeded to do it in Odessa and elsewhere. They actually thought that the West will reward them for it – they don’t understand how the West plays the game. The bosses had to fly to Kiev to explain the basic Western value: you never celebrate while killing the unter-mensch. That comes later.

    The goddamn natives can be so undisciplined, it can be embarrassing…thus the ‘Court’…

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Some in Israel got too excited and thought that now they can say what they want
     
    This just shows that Israelis are not Europeans. The defining characteristic of Europe is hypocrisy. This rule was violated only once: Hitler and his gang said exactly what they thought and did.
  418. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Have you ever considered going to this radon spa to receive a salubrious dose of hormetic radiation?
    https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/oct/26/under-the-mountain-into-austrias-radon-spa

    In case it is overbooked, there is one in Czechia:
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180306-a-spa-where-patients-bathe-in-radiactive-water

    Or this tunnel in Germany:
    https://acuradon.de/en/radontherapie/

    I once suggested AK go and write it up but I don't think he was around to take-up my advice, which is a pity. Assume the Romans would have capitalized on the idea, if they had Geiger counters and controlled that area.

    Perhaps, German_reader could review this book:
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61109898-ancient-greek-and-roman-science

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack


    Sure, if I were already in the vicinity of such an area, and I occasionally have flare ups of eczema, I’d probably give one of these tunnel radion spas a try, but tobe honest, the photos don’t make it look too enticing (dark, dank and cool). have you tried any? What’s your personal opinion?
    n-stollen_2.jpg

    This is what I really enjoy, tropical, outdoors and warm weather (80 degrees fahrenheit):

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    the photos don’t make it look too enticing (dark, dank and cool
     
    Actually find the idea of going to a mine or cave, being underground, somewhat appealing - in a tourist sense. But I find hotels unpleasant and the idea of going to any kind of spa very unappealing.

    Hormesis is a sound principle, but I can't answer to the amounts.

    This is what I really enjoy, tropical, outdoors and warm weather (80 degrees fahrenheit):
     
    best temperatures, IMO, are when the bugs haven't hatched yet or are already dead. Fall and spring in temperate areas.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  419. @John Johnson
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire.

    Most of the drones on the battlefield are what they call FPV drones.

    They are hobby drones that drop grenades. The Ukrainians have refined them to where they can take out T-72 tanks which is incredible. At the start of the war they were only able to use them against troops.

    Why isn’t Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    Flak in part worked because the Germans would run calculations on the height and speed of the Allied bombers as they entered German airspace. They wouldn't just fill the skies randomly. The Germans were in fact quite clever at making those calculations for the time. They used radar but could do it with just a spotter and trigonometry.

    Anti-air guns at some point switched over to using either missiles or bullets. The current German Gepards used by the Ukrainians make quick calculations with computers/radar and then fill the sky with streams of anti-air bullets.

    One problem is that the drones can fly in pretty low. They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.

    What you are suggesting is possible but would take some time to develop. Mini flak guns that are placed outside the city that can track and hit low flying targets. But my guess is that tracking missiles hunter-drones will get better/cheaper. It would definitely be cool to see a mini flak gun that can pop out of a truck.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Gerard1234

    Most of the drones on the battlefield are what they call FPV drones.

    They are hobby drones that drop grenades. The Ukrainians have refined them to where they can take out T-72 tanks which is incredible.

    Yes, it is incredible and illustrates how powerful ammuniton was developed too. What do they drop, anti-tank minss…?

    Hobby drones are so slow that they could be vulnerable not just to a duck hunting shotgun, but to a simple arrow. Maybe this an idea: low-tech weapons like bows and crossbows against hobby drones. Hm, anti-drone crossbowmen units… Or snipers should change priorities to drone killing.

  420. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    That's all totally unconvincing. Russian kia must be somewhere in the tens of thousands by now. I find it bizarre that you're denying this. And why are you still using this idiotic term SMO, as if this were some minor police action? It's a high-intensity war, of a kind not seen in Europe since 1945, high losses are inevitable (and I don't think Western forces would necessarily do any better than Russians and Ukrainians in such a kind of conflict. Quite possibly they would do worse).
    Impossible to know for sure of course how high losses actually are, will be a long time (if ever) until that is known. All one can do now is hazard a rough estimate, or gather some impressionistic datapoints, like in the story below.
    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-officers/

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @QCIC

    That’s all totally unconvincing. Russian kia must be somewhere in the tens of thousands by now. I find it bizarre that you’re denying this.

    Smart debating tactics – switch the fact that you were completely unable to give a sensible number of casualties……and give the illusion that it was me doing this!! Shoigu or Konashenkov said after 7 months of SMO that 67000 ukrops had died and just under 6000 of our heroes had gone. My estimate, which I never gave to you, would be that there is no reason at all for our casualties in every 6 months interval since then to exceed that number much. From how the next 6 month period of the SMO was fought, our casualties would have been significantly less, then more in the next 2 periods of 6 months that takes us to this date. So as I said, insanely high kill ratios in our favour is what I think and is obvious.

    Those extrapolated numbers for that and our injuries aligns with the numbers we have deployed – which are (mostly) available numbers

    Despite NATOs best efforts, there is no conceivable way this is like the Syrian war ( where for the first 2 years they could get Assad who they don’t like, and the rebel forces (many of them terrorists which at least officially they don’t like) to destroy eachother in equal high amounts. Or how it’s sometimes thought that WW2 tactics of the Anglo-Americans were precisely for the Soviets and Nazi Germany for fight and equally eliminate each other as they did ( not on civilians though of course)

    Everything suggests this is going much better for us then it did for the Americans in the Korean and Vietnam wars where they weren’t even close to being the primary fighting forces there and did conduct a mass strategic bombing campaign on Korea. Doesn’t mean I am comforted by these ratios when thinking of our guys defending us……..but it at least gives a perspective to it, and justifies the way we are conducting the SMO

    Ukronazi deaths were likely an underestimate then………and significantly increased rate of them after then.

    All one can do now is hazard a rough estimate, or gather some impressionistic datapoints, like in the story below.
    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-officers/

    I thought you were a smart guy? Why are you linking me reuters crap? What is wrong with you?
    We can though, as I said, make estimates of how many and where they are deployed

  421. @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.
     
    In some ways it is, in others it isn’t. Like in case of Hitler’s war, Russia is fighting united strength of Europe. One can argue that what was united strength in 1941 is united weakness today, but the sides are the same. The outcome will also be the same.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke

    …One can argue that what was united strength in 1941 is united weakness today

    There are too many of them, literally everybody in Euroland is in on it, last time I checked even Switzerland is fighting ‘Russia’. It doesn’t work, they lack focus.

    Nazis also demanded that the allies put their skin in the game – even the Spaniards sent a small army. That is unpleasant, but it creates cohesion. Now we have the combined weakness reinforced by disengagement. Only the Ukies are really dying for the cause – this could end really badly.

    No matter what happens, if we make it through alive, West will never look back and admit what they did – it will be declared forgotten like all the failed wars: lies, omissions, and just flat “don’t mention it!“…they don’t know how to plan or win, but they know how to cope. The narrative is already being slowly adjusted (“Azov sea? we don’t care”…)

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @Beckow

    Spanish sent 50000 volunteers to fight against us, the French 10's of thousands of volunteers (Charlemagne). Probably many swedish dickheads there also. Hungary, Romania,Finland, Bulgaria, nearly 500000 poles, 300000 Italians. The whole industrial base of Sweden, France, German lands, Czechoslovakia manufacturing for the Nazi war effort against us.

    Slovaks did fight with us during a later stage of the war so can be proud of that. Hungary was more Nazi than the Nazis in fighting the Soviet Union far into the period of Soviet advance and never showed an intention of a Romanian or Mannerheim of Finland type of embarrassing, slimeball..... but correct U-turn in favour of the Soviets

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

  422. @AnonfromTN
    Did you guys hear about today’s triumph of Western humanitarian values? UN court ordered Israel to ensure that its military murders the next 30,000 Palestinians without violating anti-genocide convention.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Beckow, @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard

    The pathetic ICJ returned an predictable, anti-Semitic, one sided report. It has no enforcement powers, so every serious nation simply ignores them. The fact that the deeply racist South African government is involved made the entire event more comedic.

    Use of human shields is a war crime. Did the ICJ order Hamas to stop? Nope. With no human shields, the civilian casualty rate would drop sharply. (1)

    Former Israeli Chief Justice Aharon Barak dissented from the preliminary ruling of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) Friday on whether Israel is committing “genocide” Friday, saying the court “has wrongly sought to impute the crime of Cain to Abel.”

    As Breitbart News reported, the ICJ issued a blistering anti-Israel ruling in which it failed to condemn the terrorist attack by Hamas that launched the war October 7. But in the end, all it did was order Israel to obey international law and write a report.

    The reality is that indigenous Palestinian Jews are in an existential fight for survival. The IDF is fully compliant with international law, using reasonable force against military targets.

    Why would native Jews commit suicide by surrendering to Hamas hostage takers & murders? Those requesting such capitulation must know they will be laughed at and disregarded.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/01/26/israeli-judge-dissents-icj-wrongly-sought-to-impute-the-crime-of-cain-to-abel/

    • Replies: @Derer
    @A123

    Surly, any rational person would not blame occupied, starved and bombed Palestinians in their home land to be guilty of self-defence. Their land was overrun by European foreigners who created a Jewish religious state and made the Palestinians landless second class citizens. It is genocide.

    Replies: @A123

  423. @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.
     
    In some ways it is, in others it isn’t. Like in case of Hitler’s war, Russia is fighting united strength of Europe. One can argue that what was united strength in 1941 is united weakness today, but the sides are the same. The outcome will also be the same.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke

    Russia is fighting united strength of Europe.

    Another one of your putleresque fantasies. Russia is fighting a Ukrainian military only in Ukraine. Few if any Europeans are directly fighting in this war. Supplying weaponry to Ukraine is a far cry from actually fighting with boots on the ground, a concept that seems to evade you.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Supplying weaponary......to a million plus soldiers trained to NATO standards carrying out NATO officer orders, giving realtime intelligence from NATO equipment for immediate military actions ...and of course NATO generals deciding EVERYTHING at strategic, tactical and small operational level for the ukronazis you dimwit, Mr Hack. Any defeat in 404 is equally as much a defeat of the abilities of any NATO officer prick (like Austin) as Stalingrad was for Paulus

    This is not like the US to Israel during the wars against the Arabs in the 60's & 70's or the US to the Muhajadeen. This is direct NATO involvement at military and economic level.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  424. I am proud that the state of TN is one of 25 states that voiced their support for the state of TX against traitors in Washington. I did not vote for the current governor, but the next time I will.

  425. @AnonfromTN
    Did you guys hear about today’s triumph of Western humanitarian values? UN court ordered Israel to ensure that its military murders the next 30,000 Palestinians without violating anti-genocide convention.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Beckow, @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard

    I didn’t see it but I heard the BBC NYTimes headline was international court ruled Israel isn’t committing genocide [yet]. The court omitted ruling whether or not Israel had already committed genocide because they are still looking over the evidence. Which is growing daily. This is a preliminary ruling which just says don’t kill any more civilians and let the relief supplies in while we continue to work on it.

    Meanwhile the U. S. State Department continues to scoff at the complaint and deny the evidence that is on the internet 24/7.

    Ukraine v. Russia is disappearing into quicksand.

  426. @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    You have no way of knowing how high Russian losses are, this is just pure propaganda, not much different from many of the pro-Ukrainian comments here.
     
    Absurd nonsense. We do know quite accurate data for our initial number of forces in SMO, and we have a good idea of how many have been deployed to the SMO region since February 2024, and we have a very good idea of how many are serving in the liberated territories - but are vulnerable only to longer-range MLRS or missile strikes because they are not there for frontline activity. And those numbers likely to be in Crimea, Belarus and border regions (and Kaliningrad). With that , anyone with a brain, can see that western and ukronazi figures for our casualties are amusing lies.

    Have you actually seen ANY western figures commit to an estimate of our total initial number and those who have been deployed since the start? Of course not because then their lies about our casualties look even more braindead - statistically impossible. You want to compare the side with numerous mobilsations against the side who have had one? Look at how they are fighting to how we are fighting. Do you want to commit to estimating a number of how many are deployed in the SMO, versus how many casualties would make our military completely unable to function and how even a fraction of western psyops claims of number are ludicrous? Of course you won't because then it because so obvious how well we have done. Because they are lying from the start - you won't see any of these freaks commit to prediction of when we will need a next mobilisation from these fake loss "projections"

    If it’s so one-sided, why has it lasted for two years already?
     
    1. Because of 3.4% GDP growth in 2023

    2. Because taking Kiev and other major areas requires trillions of roubles in social payments, salaries and services - trillions that for social payments and salaries the west is paying them is actually a "favour" for us in some aspects - as we are paying trillions into the newly liberated territories

    3. Because we're clearly fighting an SMO with even larger goals such as the possibility for direct fight with NATO . Kaliningrad is surrounded by the worst scum possible. Middle East. Either side wants to show and test in combat only some technological improvements, tactical and systematic actions they want to show in the SMO - plenty of these things they don't want to place into action until absolutely necessary - such as a direct Russia vs America war as example.

    4. Because we have commitments to Belarus, which directly showed in the northern front of our operations during the opening stage. Belarus now is as safe as Poland (for the moment) is, though Belarus is not close to a participant on our side of SMO as Poland and the other NATO whores are to 404.

    5. Because depleting the enemy and NATO resources is a legitimate goal, and our economic performance allows this to happen without any particular time restrictions other than only strategic weapon developments from NATO which at moment are far behind Russia

    6. Because from on our side - no war in history has had so much non-military related engineering projects constructed in what is still recognised as a warzone. Fighting as we are doing, at this rate, allows this construction/reconstruction to occur

    7. West prepared 404 for an insurgency war, Russia annihilated them in many of the areas we wanted them to. They are fighting the type of war (outside of the Donbass) the west did not want them to, although either way its ukrop plankton dying not too much of themselves.

    8. Because Nazi Germany scum made us fight for every city and town, costing us millions in lives........while literally getting on their knees and giving western nations the keys to cities and town on the western front. In Donbass we are fighting in the most industrialised, reinforced concreted, urbanised parts of the planet that were actually partly designed to be defended in a nuclear war...and since 2014 have had 8 years of extensive fortifications built in addition. And its not just one or 2 big cities, its numerous dense, urbanised and industrial towns and settlements in Donbass that require serious effort for each - irrelevant of their actual populations ( some are big, some not so big) . Soviet urbanisation is on such a scale it makes liberation far more difficult than it would be for Frankfurt and linked industrial settlements around it or for Hamburg etc.


    9. We are fighting against cannon fodder vermin that desperately need the Donbass area and its people with its huge intellectual and industrial capital......but also have a deranged national ideology that actually wants as much of the Donbass and these people to be destroyed as possible, even though it most concentrated population of "Ukrainians". Should we intend to fight the ukronazis is EVERY settlement in Donbass, as they want us to? Have a Mariupol scenario everywhere? No. Some of these places may appear like villages to Germans unfamiliar with the area, but in reality they are not.Prolonged engagement in certain settlements getting as many ukronazis to die as possible, saves other places . Win or lose, khokhols are not disturbed by these places getting destroyed.......that's why things will be completely different for Dnepropetrovsk , where too many of the elites couldn't allow that to be destroyed as they could tolerate for the Donbass. Its too much of a economic, transport, human capital, industrial hub and not targeted by khokhol insecurity complex.......to be allowed for fighting anywhere as intense as in Donbass. Without Donbass, 404 is dead, without Donbass and Dnepropetrovsk.....404 is dead and metaphorically radioactively decaying for 5000 years as a national idea.

    10.Because west decided for these lemmings, that control of the biggest nuclear power plant is not a serious negotiating position for Russia. I suspect Russia would have thought this scenario from Banderastan would be impossible to not reach some agreement.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mikel

    Thanks for those very convincing arguments but you should vote for Boris Nadezhdin in the upcoming elections and help make Russia great again. So should AnonfromTN.

    This has all been a sad misunderstanding. We never needed Ukraine in NATO at all. That doesn’t increase our security in any way. What we really need in NATO for our own security is Russia. If we left behind that stupid and anachronistic enmity we could finally start reducing those huge nuclear arsenals to non-civilization destructing levels and we could together use what remains of them to confront an alien invasion, or the yellow peril (if they ever think of going further than filling our stores with crappy products), or something like that. But we now need someone like Nadezhdin in the Kremlin. Putin tried a quick tour de force in Ukraine to send a strong message to the West but it didn’t quite work as intended. Nadezhdin’s plans of applying Russia’s constitution to the letter and restoring normal relations with the West are what’s best for everybody at this point in time.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @Mikel

    Personally, my idea of perfect diplomacy would be for us to conduct Eichmann-style abductions, trials and pass laws for executions of numerous scum ex western military and political officials. The "rules" of this would have to be that they are not currently elected or serving - so Hollande, Johnson, Merkel , Bildt, (((Vindmann))) and particularly the useless Trump given the Eichmann treatment for their role in Ukraine war crimes post-Maidan.
    It would send a message to the west and not give much threat of military or reciprocal damage to us if its just former officials caught, and all they think is "Putin,Putin,Putin"!!

    It's all a dream of course if any of this happened, but how good would it be to for these narcissistic American pricks to have to delay the date of their non-stop Presidential elections because Trump is on trial in Russia because he was abducted in Argentina on the way to see his boyfriend President there? For most normal countries they don't have exact dates for every election known permanently, so the date change itself would be insignificant......for Americans to have to suffer it would be immense OTT squealing.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel

    Sorry to disappoint, but Nadezhdin’s chances of winning are exactly zero. What’s more, he is totally discredited in the eyes of 95% of Russians by the fact that a well-known mega-thief and murderer Khodorkovsky supports him.

    As to relations with the so-called West, about 70% of Russians are vehemently opposed to trusting the West and the empire an inch, and another 15-20% are opposed, but less vehemently.

    As to NATO, Russia cannot join it as NATO was from the start and still remains an anti-Russian organization lead by the empire.

    So, dream on.

    , @Gerard1234
    @Mikel

    That Nadezhdin has made a positive impact on yourself indicates:

    1. He's sane ( a very rare thing for a liberast who often appear frenetically psychopathic, narcissistic, slimeballs )
    2. He's genuinely consistent in liberast principles (again, extremely rare for liberasts who will criticise every economy, social or whatever policy of the authorities, even it aligns with their (claimed) political principles)
    3. He's maybe likeble and does not appear completely repulsive ( so that makes him very different to most of the liberasts like Navalny,Volkov, Yashin older ones and previous era like Venediktov and Novodvorskaya.......and even the attractive women on the liberast side all appear to have repulsive personality characteristics )

    However, he is still just a filthy liberast, so his chances of being elected are none. Stuff of his that is principled and passionately argued like when we did the changes to the Constitution... doesn't change the problem that its totally nauseating to most Russians. So as an example, 3 years before when there is referendum on changes to the Russian Constitution he goes into a massive monolog about how great the American constitution is and how he wants Russians to be able to recite each sentence of our constitution like the Americans can with their "inspiring" one and then he talks more on that theme. I can respect and maybe understand why people like that can have this opinion........but to me it's just nauseating American c*ck-sucking.


    Nadezhdin’s plans of applying Russia’s constitution to the letter and restoring normal relations with the West are what’s best for everybody at this point in time.
     
    Many other things also, but the fact Nord Stream 2 was stopped before the SMO, forcing of us to stop bilateral relation with 404 but at same time to transit gas through them and so help fund the budget of their military....... and the zero intention shown to make them act on the Minsk Agreements indicate that this is not an issue of "reaching an agreement", its intentional, filthy , evil actions by the west against Russia that make the "Opium Wars" against China look angelic by comparison.
    A Cuba left in difficult position after the Soviets effectively left it following the Missile issue in 1962, or a North Korea decay after not wanting to involve itself in USSR-China dispute (and their own poor decisions).........that is the only option for agreement with the west on 404. That's the fate this hole deserves (well, not quite, Cuba considerably richer than 404!)
  427. @John Johnson
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Does anyone have an idea why the alleged supremacy of drones on the battlefield did not resurrect flak artillery as a cheap countermeasure? Drones are relatively slow-moving airborne targets, ideal for targeting with antiaircraft fire.

    Most of the drones on the battlefield are what they call FPV drones.

    They are hobby drones that drop grenades. The Ukrainians have refined them to where they can take out T-72 tanks which is incredible. At the start of the war they were only able to use them against troops.

    Why isn’t Kiev building flak towers as Hamburg once did..?

    Flak in part worked because the Germans would run calculations on the height and speed of the Allied bombers as they entered German airspace. They wouldn't just fill the skies randomly. The Germans were in fact quite clever at making those calculations for the time. They used radar but could do it with just a spotter and trigonometry.

    Anti-air guns at some point switched over to using either missiles or bullets. The current German Gepards used by the Ukrainians make quick calculations with computers/radar and then fill the sky with streams of anti-air bullets.

    One problem is that the drones can fly in pretty low. They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.

    What you are suggesting is possible but would take some time to develop. Mini flak guns that are placed outside the city that can track and hit low flying targets. But my guess is that tracking missiles hunter-drones will get better/cheaper. It would definitely be cool to see a mini flak gun that can pop out of a truck.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Gerard1234

    They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.

    Though plenty of attempts have been done like that, and is possible I suppose, there is no evidence that has actually happened you cretin.

    So Ukronazis have to defend sky against drones, dummy missiles ( about 1/6th the payload at 60-70 kg), cruise missiles, supersonic, hypersonic missiles but not against any planes approaching………and you retards are discussing flak towers, which would also be the most unconcealable thing in the city? LMAO

    You could also consider why drones flying at least 500 km to Kiev are getting there undetected all the time . Everything drone that flies deep into Russia, despite their BS claims, is launched from inside Russian territory.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Gerard1234


    They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.
     
    Though plenty of attempts have been done like that, and is possible I suppose, there is no evidence that has actually happened you cretin.

    Except it was captured on video. Maybe ask for a source instead of calling people names.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzhz59mwDtU

    and you retards are discussing flak towers, which would also be the most unconcealable thing in the city

    The Gephards use anti-air bursting rounds. It's very similar to a flak gun.

    I never said anything about immobile towers. I answered a question on how it would be possible and here you are calling people retards over a theoretical system that I said may not be better than hunter drones/missiles. Do you just have a really small penis? What is your problem?

    You could also consider why drones flying at least 500 km to Kiev are getting there undetected all the time

    They're small, quiet and can fly at low altitude.

    Current AA guns aren't designed for drones but they have taken them down.

    A flak system could be designed for drones. Entirely possible.

    Replies: @QCIC

  428. @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    Russia is fighting united strength of Europe.
     
    Another one of your putleresque fantasies. Russia is fighting a Ukrainian military only in Ukraine. Few if any Europeans are directly fighting in this war. Supplying weaponry to Ukraine is a far cry from actually fighting with boots on the ground, a concept that seems to evade you.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Supplying weaponary……to a million plus soldiers trained to NATO standards carrying out NATO officer orders, giving realtime intelligence from NATO equipment for immediate military actions …and of course NATO generals deciding EVERYTHING at strategic, tactical and small operational level for the ukronazis you dimwit, Mr Hack. Any defeat in 404 is equally as much a defeat of the abilities of any NATO officer prick (like Austin) as Stalingrad was for Paulus

    This is not like the US to Israel during the wars against the Arabs in the 60’s & 70’s or the US to the Muhajadeen. This is direct NATO involvement at military and economic level.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234

    What's the matter, can't the Professor answer his own inquiries? I know that you're quite competent, but I hope that he's paying you something for your efforts in rising to his defense? :-)


    and of course NATO generals deciding EVERYTHING at strategic, tactical and small operational level for the ukronazis
     
    Did they decide that Ukraine go ahead and recently bomb the large oil refinery in Usta Luga in the Leningrad region and three days later in the Sochi area too? Large energy consortiums are known to buy Russian sourced oil at rock bottom prices and then resell it to its customers at much higher market prices (if this doesn't make Russian energy consortiums seethe with anger, I don't know what would. But they're desperate to make any money anyway that they can). Of course, the large US based energy consortiums have little impact on US foreign policy. :-)

    https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/russian-oil-hidden-big-buyers-saudi-arabia-and-uae-to-buy-russian-oil-at-low-prices-and-then-sell-at-high-prices-to-europe/

  429. @A123
    @AnonfromTN

    The pathetic ICJ returned an predictable, anti-Semitic, one sided report. It has no enforcement powers, so every serious nation simply ignores them. The fact that the deeply racist South African government is involved made the entire event more comedic.

    Use of human shields is a war crime. Did the ICJ order Hamas to stop? Nope. With no human shields, the civilian casualty rate would drop sharply. (1)


    Former Israeli Chief Justice Aharon Barak dissented from the preliminary ruling of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) Friday on whether Israel is committing “genocide” Friday, saying the court “has wrongly sought to impute the crime of Cain to Abel.”

    As Breitbart News reported, the ICJ issued a blistering anti-Israel ruling in which it failed to condemn the terrorist attack by Hamas that launched the war October 7. But in the end, all it did was order Israel to obey international law and write a report.
     
    The reality is that indigenous Palestinian Jews are in an existential fight for survival. The IDF is fully compliant with international law, using reasonable force against military targets.

    Why would native Jews commit suicide by surrendering to Hamas hostage takers & murders? Those requesting such capitulation must know they will be laughed at and disregarded.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/01/26/israeli-judge-dissents-icj-wrongly-sought-to-impute-the-crime-of-cain-to-abel/

    Replies: @Derer

    Surly, any rational person would not blame occupied, starved and bombed Palestinians in their home land to be guilty of self-defence. Their land was overrun by European foreigners who created a Jewish religious state and made the Palestinians landless second class citizens. It is genocide.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Derer

    Surly, any rational person would not blame indigenous Palestinian Jews for living in Judea and Jerusalem their home land of Judaism. They must have the right of self defense against murder and kidnapping by the Arabian & Persian (not Palestinian) religion of Islam. Muslims have religious states they can go to. Alas, genocidal Jihadists expend their own women & children as human shields in places like Gaza.

    =================================
        Muslim Colonies are the Problem.
    Muslim Decolonization is the Solution!
    =================================

    PEACE 😇

  430. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN

    The 'Court' basically said, 'ok, kill them all, but don't boast about it in public...'. Some in Israel got too excited and thought that now they can say what they want - and it backfired in the media.

    It was similar to the Maidan enthusiasts who were yelling "kill the Moskali" - an ethnic hate crime if there ever was one - and then proceeded to do it in Odessa and elsewhere. They actually thought that the West will reward them for it - they don't understand how the West plays the game. The bosses had to fly to Kiev to explain the basic Western value: you never celebrate while killing the unter-mensch. That comes later.

    The goddamn natives can be so undisciplined, it can be embarrassing...thus the 'Court'...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Some in Israel got too excited and thought that now they can say what they want

    This just shows that Israelis are not Europeans. The defining characteristic of Europe is hypocrisy. This rule was violated only once: Hitler and his gang said exactly what they thought and did.

  431. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...One can argue that what was united strength in 1941 is united weakness today
     
    There are too many of them, literally everybody in Euroland is in on it, last time I checked even Switzerland is fighting 'Russia'. It doesn't work, they lack focus.

    Nazis also demanded that the allies put their skin in the game - even the Spaniards sent a small army. That is unpleasant, but it creates cohesion. Now we have the combined weakness reinforced by disengagement. Only the Ukies are really dying for the cause - this could end really badly.

    No matter what happens, if we make it through alive, West will never look back and admit what they did - it will be declared forgotten like all the failed wars: lies, omissions, and just flat "don't mention it!"...they don't know how to plan or win, but they know how to cope. The narrative is already being slowly adjusted ("Azov sea? we don't care"...)

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Spanish sent 50000 volunteers to fight against us, the French 10’s of thousands of volunteers (Charlemagne). Probably many swedish dickheads there also. Hungary, Romania,Finland, Bulgaria, nearly 500000 poles, 300000 Italians. The whole industrial base of Sweden, France, German lands, Czechoslovakia manufacturing for the Nazi war effort against us.

    Slovaks did fight with us during a later stage of the war so can be proud of that. Hungary was more Nazi than the Nazis in fighting the Soviet Union far into the period of Soviet advance and never showed an intention of a Romanian or Mannerheim of Finland type of embarrassing, slimeball….. but correct U-turn in favour of the Soviets

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Gerard1234


    the French 10’s of thousands of volunteers (Charlemagne)
     
    Few people know it, but it was French Charlemagne division that was defending Reichstag when Soviet troops captured it in 1945. In full agreement with these European values German government erased the Graffiti left on the Reichstag by Soviet soldiers that took it.

    Replies: @German_reader

    , @Beckow
    @Gerard1234

    It was a continent-wide effort, everyone contributed. Czechs provided one third of the weapons Germany used in Russia, they were in turn fed and kept alive...:) There is also the infamous 1942 post-Heydrich killing demonstration by Czechs in support of Hitler - 100,000's of thousands in Prague heiling and swearing eternal loyalty...I am not proud of Slovakia in WW2, but we are small people and had little agency after UK-France betrayal. (My great uncle started in 1938 facing the Germans during the Munich crisis, was demobilized, then sent to join Barbarossa in Russia, brought back and sent to Italy in 1943 (not sure why), and ended up in the uprising against the Nazis in 1944. Then he went back to farming and bee-keeping.)

    The mankind is mostly scum, survivors and very stupid people. The idea that we must by all means preserve the "white Euro civilization" is getting old. Do we really need more Scholzes, Pavels, Macrons, Baerbocks, posturing Scandie dickheads looking for the Russian subs?

    We had four great World Cups in a row - none was in Europe and we were fine. Maybe it is time to rotate the pale-face as..holes and try something new...:)

  432. @Gerard1234
    @Beckow

    Spanish sent 50000 volunteers to fight against us, the French 10's of thousands of volunteers (Charlemagne). Probably many swedish dickheads there also. Hungary, Romania,Finland, Bulgaria, nearly 500000 poles, 300000 Italians. The whole industrial base of Sweden, France, German lands, Czechoslovakia manufacturing for the Nazi war effort against us.

    Slovaks did fight with us during a later stage of the war so can be proud of that. Hungary was more Nazi than the Nazis in fighting the Soviet Union far into the period of Soviet advance and never showed an intention of a Romanian or Mannerheim of Finland type of embarrassing, slimeball..... but correct U-turn in favour of the Soviets

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

    the French 10’s of thousands of volunteers (Charlemagne)

    Few people know it, but it was French Charlemagne division that was defending Reichstag when Soviet troops captured it in 1945. In full agreement with these European values German government erased the Graffiti left on the Reichstag by Soviet soldiers that took it.

    • Agree: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    German government erased the Graffiti left on the Reichstag by Soviet soldiers that took it.
     
    They are still there. iirc the wife of (former) ambassador Melnyk watched them and was moved when she saw the name of Ukrainian cities like Kharkov/Kharkiv in the signatures of soldiers ("This is our history"). However, in light of recent events it has been decided to remove all graffiti referring to places in Russia and replace them with ones mentioning places in Ukraine (especially western Ukraine).
  433. @German_reader
    @Beckow


    From the beginning Greens were used as a militant counter-force to any peace – they are an interventionist war party.

     

    They weren't in the 1980s, when they were widely seen as the "peace party" for the kind of people afraid of nuclear war, skeptical of NATO etc. The change gradually came about in the 1990s, with all that "never again" human rights discourse about "humanitarian interventions", especially in the context of the conflicts in ex-Yugoslavia (and to a lesser extent other humanitarian disasters where "the world did nothing" like the genocide in Rwanda). But yes, today they are total fanatics who are the most enthusiastic supporters of a global crusade against autocracies in German politics (and convinced that all their domestic enemies are supported by/in league with Putin and other autocrats abroad). Essentially neocon-like in their view of the world. There's a certain logic to that kind of development (all the more so when you consider that some of these people were in Maoist sects during the 1970s...), but still must have been hard to predict when the party came into existence.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The 80’s escaped me, even most of 90’s are a blurr…:) Who can forget the leather-jacketed street-thug-slash-Maoist intellectual Joshka Fisher yelling “On Beograd! bomb the savages!!!“. He was giddy with blood-lust. Maybe he missed his street fighting days.

    It was oddly reminiscent of the 1914 madness in Vienna also rushing “On Beograd”. But I take your point that earlier there were anti-nuke peace-loving Greens. Idiocy takes many forms, they are slowly exploring all of them.

    The “new parties” that have popped up all over Europe often exist for a reason although some are genuine at the beginning. It is a natural dynamic in a “democracy”, an obvious way to game the outcomes.

    A few years back a new phenomenon of the “Pirate parties” showed up (free wifi or something…) Czechia actually elected one led by a pony-tailed moron who used to smoke hash in the Louisiana marshes (don’t ask). Predictably they are pro-war, pro-open borders, but still also pro-hash. More the world changes, more it stays the same…

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Beckow


    A few years back a new phenomenon of the “Pirate parties” showed up (free wifi or something…)
     
    That was indeed a very strange phenomenon. German pirates were treated quite sympathetically by the media (whereas reaction to AfD was always hostile, even at the start when it was mostly just about the Euro and not as radicalized as it became after 2014/2015). But eventually the party was hollowed out by radical left-wingers and the attendant in-fighting, with many of the people focused more narrowly on tech issues just giving up and leaving. Maybe that was the plan all along. Predictably enough some of the more prominent protagonists later ended up with Greens and LINKE.
    There was also the case of one PIRATEN politician who murdered an acquaintance (who had rejected his homosexual advances) and then committed suicide:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerwald_Claus-Brunner

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  434. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    But in reality Russia is fighting NATO.
     
    That's partially true, since on one level this is certainly a proxy war. But NATO countries haven't really put their economies on a war footing, which limits the supplies of artillery shells etc. than can be sent to Ukraine. Maybe the West doesn't have the industrial capabilities for that anymore, at least not quickly, I don't know. But presenting this as if Russia faced NATO's full might isn't accurate either. And sorry, but the Hitler analogy is just totally unconvincing. It's true that Russia is in some way reacting to what can be seen as Western encroachments on its traditional sphere of influence, but the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN, @Derer

    But presenting this as if Russia faced NATO’s full might isn’t accurate either.

    It is fully accurate. Is NATO territory subject to Russian attacked? In real war, and not in this slimy NATO war, using Ukrainian Christians to fight their objectives and themselves being spared from the ballistic missile destruction. The alternative is Russia engaging in a nuclear annihilation which NATO idiots are slowly pushing for. Who got more to lose what would happened to those high GDPs.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Derer

    It is accurate given today's reality that the Euro NATO countries are unwilling to actually fight an enemy who can shoot back. So this is the way they fight wars now: find others to fight and die on your behalf and give them all you have.

    US is slightly different, but not much. Even a fraction of the casualties the Ukies have had would stop the war if they were US soldiers.

    They need to find an enemy again with almost no guns. Maybe the Houthis? But they are the wrong color, damn it, awkward. This is really hard - I don't blame the Brusselites for getting frustrated, so many constraints....

  435. @Derer
    @A123

    Surly, any rational person would not blame occupied, starved and bombed Palestinians in their home land to be guilty of self-defence. Their land was overrun by European foreigners who created a Jewish religious state and made the Palestinians landless second class citizens. It is genocide.

    Replies: @A123

    Surly, any rational person would not blame indigenous Palestinian Jews for living in Judea and Jerusalem their home land of Judaism. They must have the right of self defense against murder and kidnapping by the Arabian & Persian (not Palestinian) religion of Islam. Muslims have religious states they can go to. Alas, genocidal Jihadists expend their own women & children as human shields in places like Gaza.

    =================================
        Muslim Colonies are the Problem.
    Muslim Decolonization is the Solution!
    =================================

    PEACE 😇

  436. @Mikel
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for those very convincing arguments but you should vote for Boris Nadezhdin in the upcoming elections and help make Russia great again. So should AnonfromTN.

    This has all been a sad misunderstanding. We never needed Ukraine in NATO at all. That doesn't increase our security in any way. What we really need in NATO for our own security is Russia. If we left behind that stupid and anachronistic enmity we could finally start reducing those huge nuclear arsenals to non-civilization destructing levels and we could together use what remains of them to confront an alien invasion, or the yellow peril (if they ever think of going further than filling our stores with crappy products), or something like that. But we now need someone like Nadezhdin in the Kremlin. Putin tried a quick tour de force in Ukraine to send a strong message to the West but it didn't quite work as intended. Nadezhdin's plans of applying Russia's constitution to the letter and restoring normal relations with the West are what's best for everybody at this point in time.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    Personally, my idea of perfect diplomacy would be for us to conduct Eichmann-style abductions, trials and pass laws for executions of numerous scum ex western military and political officials. The “rules” of this would have to be that they are not currently elected or serving – so Hollande, Johnson, Merkel , Bildt, (((Vindmann))) and particularly the useless Trump given the Eichmann treatment for their role in Ukraine war crimes post-Maidan.
    It would send a message to the west and not give much threat of military or reciprocal damage to us if its just former officials caught, and all they think is “Putin,Putin,Putin”!!

    It’s all a dream of course if any of this happened, but how good would it be to for these narcissistic American pricks to have to delay the date of their non-stop Presidential elections because Trump is on trial in Russia because he was abducted in Argentina on the way to see his boyfriend President there? For most normal countries they don’t have exact dates for every election known permanently, so the date change itself would be insignificant……for Americans to have to suffer it would be immense OTT squealing.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Gerard1234


    Personally, my idea of perfect diplomacy would be for us to conduct Eichmann-style abductions, trials and pass laws for executions of numerous scum ex western military and political officials.
     
    I understand your feelings but this is getting out of hand. Just because there haven't been any incidents like the missile that killed the Polish farmers lately, it doesn't mean that serious miscalculations cannot happen at any time. Ukraine is repeatedly using Western weapons (and possibly Western intelligence) to blow planes out of the sky well inside Russia. An accident "impossible to ignore" by one of the parties and the war crimes in Donbas that you mention could become child play by comparison.

    Russia should stop this costly strategy and play the long game instead. Consider that Turkey is not less autocratic than Russia but that's never been a problem to be a member of NATO. An intelligent Russian ruler should talk nice to the morons leading the West now. Putin has run its course. Replace him and pretend that you go along with our insane agendas but then carry on doing your thing inside Russia, as Turkey does, and probably become top dog once the West completes the suicidal path it has embarked on. Imagine the US federal government fighting the states' national guards in order to keep the borders open instead of fighting the invaders, while they also try to imprison the presidential candidate leading the polls. Why sweat it against an empire in such terminal decline?

  437. @Derer
    @German_reader


    But presenting this as if Russia faced NATO’s full might isn’t accurate either.

     

    It is fully accurate. Is NATO territory subject to Russian attacked? In real war, and not in this slimy NATO war, using Ukrainian Christians to fight their objectives and themselves being spared from the ballistic missile destruction. The alternative is Russia engaging in a nuclear annihilation which NATO idiots are slowly pushing for. Who got more to lose what would happened to those high GDPs.

    Replies: @Beckow

    It is accurate given today’s reality that the Euro NATO countries are unwilling to actually fight an enemy who can shoot back. So this is the way they fight wars now: find others to fight and die on your behalf and give them all you have.

    US is slightly different, but not much. Even a fraction of the casualties the Ukies have had would stop the war if they were US soldiers.

    They need to find an enemy again with almost no guns. Maybe the Houthis? But they are the wrong color, damn it, awkward. This is really hard – I don’t blame the Brusselites for getting frustrated, so many constraints….

  438. @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Supplying weaponary......to a million plus soldiers trained to NATO standards carrying out NATO officer orders, giving realtime intelligence from NATO equipment for immediate military actions ...and of course NATO generals deciding EVERYTHING at strategic, tactical and small operational level for the ukronazis you dimwit, Mr Hack. Any defeat in 404 is equally as much a defeat of the abilities of any NATO officer prick (like Austin) as Stalingrad was for Paulus

    This is not like the US to Israel during the wars against the Arabs in the 60's & 70's or the US to the Muhajadeen. This is direct NATO involvement at military and economic level.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    What’s the matter, can’t the Professor answer his own inquiries? I know that you’re quite competent, but I hope that he’s paying you something for your efforts in rising to his defense? 🙂

    and of course NATO generals deciding EVERYTHING at strategic, tactical and small operational level for the ukronazis

    Did they decide that Ukraine go ahead and recently bomb the large oil refinery in Usta Luga in the Leningrad region and three days later in the Sochi area too? Large energy consortiums are known to buy Russian sourced oil at rock bottom prices and then resell it to its customers at much higher market prices (if this doesn’t make Russian energy consortiums seethe with anger, I don’t know what would. But they’re desperate to make any money anyway that they can). Of course, the large US based energy consortiums have little impact on US foreign policy. 🙂

    https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/russian-oil-hidden-big-buyers-saudi-arabia-and-uae-to-buy-russian-oil-at-low-prices-and-then-sell-at-high-prices-to-europe/

  439. @Derer
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    This one is about Putin’s possible Jewish heritage.
     
    Lost in translation.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    The video shows a copy of his documents where his mother is ID’ed as Jew Еврей

    There’s something his one-time patron being Jew oligarch Berezovsky. There’s also a Georgian woman saying at the end that she’s his real mother.

    At the end it’d kind of immaterial just like Lenin’s Jewish ancestry. He as tsar can identify as whatever that suits him. That’s what the video is about.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    So it appears that Putler is actually a Jew...adds some credence to Ivashka's theories of Putler's vassal like status to Klaus Schultz and his organization poised on sinister world domination. Isn't it about time for IVASHKA TO RETURN HERE? And what about AaronB too?...It's getting boring responding to mostly the kremlinstooge constituency club based here. :-(

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    , @Gerard1234
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    You sound too smart to be deceived by this ultra retarded fake. What is wrong with you?

    1. Absolutely ZERO document exists in Russian/Soviet bureaucracy saying "R.S.F.S.R", its all RSFSR, USSR i.e without the dot. That prove to me it's some anglo-American or some Banderite or Polish diaspora f**kup completely ignorant of basic Soviet things making an obvious error

    2. Where is the mythical city of "Leningra" - typing mistake without the D at the end, but unlikely, more just further proving of the incompetence of western fakers

    3. The writing at the side and the mention of him reaching 45 indicates this is a Russian Federation (not USSR document) so there is no reason for Leningrad to even be mentioned ( though I suppose maybe workers at FMS may have allowed this type of thing).

    4. Jew (yevreika) should have a capital letter - individually a minor thing, but with the other typing errors, it just confirms all of it is some idiotic farce

    5. Shelomov is 100% Slavic/Russian name. Rules for this followed not just self-identification ( as they could if somebody claiming Ukrop or Russian) ......but on strict Jewish hereditary rule on only classifying if the mother was Jewish. Can't be bothered because I know this thing is fake, but would be sure that Putins mother's mother has not found to be listed as Jewish.

    6. From my experience Leningrad ,the city, was always separate in administration documents from Leningrad Oblast ( must like now with Moscow and Moscow Oblast and SP with Leningrad Oblast)

    7. The photo

    8. Can't be sure of date from that photo - but at this time he is either head of FSB or PM



    There’s something his one-time patron being Jew oligarch Berezovsky.
     
    And then his one-time enemy who he (correctly) tried to have jailed. VVP isn't antisemitic, which is a good thing. He has jailed and tried to jail 3 criminal Jewish oligarchs in Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and Gusinsky......which is great

    There’s also a Georgian woman saying at the end that she’s his real mother.
     
    That's of course also amusing nonsense

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  440. @Beckow
    @German_reader


    ...as if Russia faced NATO’s full might isn’t accurate either.
     
    True, but Russia is also not using its full might. Ukraine is the only fully engaged player. Russia hasn't mobilized and is not using all its weapons. Russia is not attacking cities like NATO or Israel do. Russia can pick a second-tier Ukie city and flatten it.

    the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.
     
    Times have changed, so it is different. But there is also a basic similarity: Europe moving-attacking-encroaching on Russia. Napoleon used Poles and Germans, Nazis had Romanians-Italians-Finns - practically all of Europe participated in Barbarossa.

    The allure of the large rich space in the east is the same. Nazis called it lebensraum, but it is a generic Western urge: they want the resources Russia has. NATO didn't expand eastward with bases, exercises, 'defensive' missiles to play cricket or make Ukies into 'happier' people. NATO expanded to over time corner and weaken Russia - it is so obvious that when people deny it they sound like idiots. But they now prefer to be idiots to admitting that they tried something aggressive and it failed.

    How was Russia supposed to react? I am still waiting for a rational and doable alternative to this war once NATO moved its expansion to Ukraine and Kiev enthusiastically signed up for it. Russia could have done nothing and sat back - in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc...That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.

    Is Russia better off? I leave that up to them, but they clearly came to a point by 2022 that the continuing status quo was a major threat - superpowers react to threats, US would, so would China, UK, France. So we have a war that Russia is winning. The real victim here are the poor Ukies who just wanted to be accepted, and the West has used them for its own goals and is killing them and their state.

    Replies: @AP

    True, but Russia is also not using its full might. Ukraine is the only fully engaged player

    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.

    How was Russia supposed to react? I am still waiting for a rational and doable alternative to this war once NATO moved its expansion to Ukraine and Kiev enthusiastically signed up for it

    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody war a dumb choice.
     
    Well, Nato did expand, but whatever...Tell us what was a better choice for Russia? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.

    By the way the war could have been over with a compromise deal in 2022 - neutral Kiev and losing some territory - when Russia finally started the war their goals were limited. At this point it is out of control and looking back is kind of pointless. We are in the war to a bitter end - not exactly the first choice for any of the parties...

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    , @QCIC
    @AP

    I agree that NATO has applied little of its capability, at least as far has been reported. The SMO is strange, though. Russia is effectively defending her border. Yes, I know Ukies do not see it that way, but I think the Russian military views it exactly like that. This means Russia is really on the defensive. NATO is just playing puppet master with the Ukrainians, getting them to die wholesale while unintentionally being a productive nuisance for Russia. This conflict is helping Russia build up across the board: economically, in terms of material and also with troops and officers. They will have a lot of hardened combat vets who fought shoulder to shoulder with men who died defending their own border. I cannot imagine something which would make a country more hawkish.

    NATO could apply much more force to this project. If this happens Russia may give up on her goal of low civilian casualties and Ukraine will be ground to dust. Europe will have so many refugees the Africans will start returning to their home countries. If NATO gets really deranged and attempts to attack St. Petersburg, Moscow or even Kaliningrad then I think we get immediate nuclear war, but to what level who knows?

    Great job, morons.

    , @Gerard1234
    @AP

    For a bimbo as yourself to be commenting on anything military related is in addition to being comedic and an insult to everyones intelligence , is severely f**ked up. Its as bad as a fantasist scumbag as yourself talking about places you have never been to like Europe, Russia or Ukraine.....or on medical issues.......or bizarrely, even on BASIC issues about European Royal Familys which is inexplicable that a fantasist retard as yourself, claiming to be directly affected by 12th century events and devoting millions of posts to it.......would not know!!


    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.
     
    LMFAO, NATO is spending massively more amounts of money on this than Russian you dumb bag of sh*t, not even close. Russia is fighting a defacto NATO military. This NATO army is 1.3 million in size ( OK includes police and Border Force on western border etc, but every indication that is a "topped up" number) - trained by NATO, armed by NATO, given masses of NATO weapons and Soviet weapons modified to be used with NATO systems, dictated to by NATO officers orders on the battlefield and at HQ, carrying out operations planned 100% in NATO headquarters ( at micro and macro level), given access to realtime intelligence from NATO's trillion dollar intelligence network and equipment so to enact singular and co-ordinated action on the battlefield immediately and for diversionary actions......and having their women who are literal NATO prostitutes service every desire of NATO mercs/sex tourists perversions that they wish. Owned, administered, ordered ....even clothed by NATO you retarded cretin.

    So Russia is fighting at a big numerical disadvantage and a big financial disadvantage in what they have committed to the SMO. Official NATO military is over 3 million, of which much could never be committed to fight on one front against Russia anyway and it's highly debatable which of the Asian and European NATO countries would actually fight in coalition against Russia - so it's a huge embarrassment to them and p*ssing in their bed stuff, what Russia have done and are doing to their 1.3 million army you useless POS. This is a big section of NATO and NATO minds and capabilities being destroyed.

    And its embarassment to them what Russia have done using a fraction in number and capabilities of our men, airpower, tanks etc.etc. All those billions of dollars in planning, and it immediately proven in a few days over February/March in 2022 that Russia could take all the Baltics with a very small force if wanted to, judging by the NATO disaster for 404. Russia forces and equipment, crucially, are not close to being depleted for any official NATO war against these extra equipment/technologies/3 million personnel, however unwanted this war would be.

    As I say, you are in zero position to say what either sides "might" is you POS . Pointless to talk about non-use of ICBM's when talking about "full might" you idiot. SMO is fought at maximum intensity........at stage of combat NATO and Russia are willing to commit to. Thousands of NATO employees are working 24/7 using huge resources to try and defeat Russia with what is defacto a large part of their military at 1.3 million. NATO don't want trillions of dollars of F-35's "parked", nose down in some field in Ukraine, Russia doesn't want to use numerous things at this stage either.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.
     
    ROFL, just to completely emphasise what a clueless bimbo you are, not even aware of what terms as "mobilised" actually mean when talking about it. Embarrassing - though I suppose as you have no personal connection to anybody actually fighting in the SMO you can make these inane, stupid comments.

    1.3 million - but none of us can be sure what the population of Ukraine is you dumb prick. 10 million between Russia (says much) and the west fled from Ukraine. Officially (LOL) That's 28 million left , real number is probably 15 million at what could now be 60+/40 proportion of male to female.
    Great Patriotic War reached 6% mobilisation rate . 5% for Nazi Germany. Here there is an enlarged military personnel because 404 has zero military-industrial capacity and the west provides all that for them, so 404 can provide more cannon fodder in combat........however this is still a fairly localised war not fought at same level of intensity or scale as GPW, so that is full mobilisation numbers we are seeing here you idiot. 5% already for "official" population number. 7% for unoffical.

    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.
     
    With all the other stupid nonsense of yourself.....too stupid to dignify with a response.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

  441. @Yevardian
    American Indians (lol) are overwhelmingly Brahmin and not at all representative of their countrymen. But even that aside, I wouldn't want them in the US either. The desirability of a foreign nation in your country can't simply be boiled down to solely IQ in an aspergers like fashion.

    I'm an Australian citizen, my extended family comes from USSR and the Mideast. Anyway I don't work with Indians anymore so I've since able to relax about them. But personally, I still prefer the company of almost any other race, including negroes, who at least have some joie de vivre about them.

    Replies: @Sher Singh, @Mr. XYZ

    Join up with us, and none shall have to suffer the company of Endians.

    ਅਕਾਲ

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    @Sher Singh

    The Sikhs? You should embrace Nuristani paganism instead. Babis/Bahai had promise but went the way of woke Protestantism a long time ago. Well, you can chuck an throwaway email anyway, forum might not be around much longer. Do you know Persian btw? You can't say I wasn't right about Karlin in the end.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  442. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    https://acuradon.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Ihre-weg-in-den-stollen_2.jpg

    Sure, if I were already in the vicinity of such an area, and I occasionally have flare ups of eczema, I'd probably give one of these tunnel radion spas a try, but tobe honest, the photos don't make it look too enticing (dark, dank and cool). have you tried any? What's your personal opinion?

    https://acuradon.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Ihre-weg-in-den-stollen_1.jpg n-stollen_2.jpg

    This is what I really enjoy, tropical, outdoors and warm weather (80 degrees fahrenheit):

    https://d2xuzatlfjyc9k.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/COSTA-RICA-HOT-SPRINGS-THERMAL-RESORTS.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

    the photos don’t make it look too enticing (dark, dank and cool

    Actually find the idea of going to a mine or cave, being underground, somewhat appealing – in a tourist sense. But I find hotels unpleasant and the idea of going to any kind of spa very unappealing.

    Hormesis is a sound principle, but I can’t answer to the amounts.

    This is what I really enjoy, tropical, outdoors and warm weather (80 degrees fahrenheit):

    best temperatures, IMO, are when the bugs haven’t hatched yet or are already dead. Fall and spring in temperate areas.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Actually find the idea of going to a mine or cave, being underground, somewhat appealing – in a tourist sense.
     
    I do to, for a short sort of adventure. Haven't done it much though, one with a waterfall though in southern MN. Will go to the large one in southern AZ someday...

    But I find hotels unpleasant and the idea of going to any kind of spa very unappealing...best temperatures, IMO, are when the bugs haven’t hatched yet or are already dead. Fall and spring in temperate areas.
     
    Believe it or not, I've not ever encountered an insect while visiting any of the spas in Arenal CR. After a day soaking in the hot mineral waters, luxuriating underneath one of the small waterfalls getting the best neck and back massage, I feel relaxed and reinvigorated, no body aches whatsoever, and am ready to go out for a nice CR dinner. Getting away from your normal comfort zone could do you some good. I know that you're an animal lover, and where better to watch animals live in their own natural environment than CR?

    Replies: @songbird

  443. @Mikel
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for those very convincing arguments but you should vote for Boris Nadezhdin in the upcoming elections and help make Russia great again. So should AnonfromTN.

    This has all been a sad misunderstanding. We never needed Ukraine in NATO at all. That doesn't increase our security in any way. What we really need in NATO for our own security is Russia. If we left behind that stupid and anachronistic enmity we could finally start reducing those huge nuclear arsenals to non-civilization destructing levels and we could together use what remains of them to confront an alien invasion, or the yellow peril (if they ever think of going further than filling our stores with crappy products), or something like that. But we now need someone like Nadezhdin in the Kremlin. Putin tried a quick tour de force in Ukraine to send a strong message to the West but it didn't quite work as intended. Nadezhdin's plans of applying Russia's constitution to the letter and restoring normal relations with the West are what's best for everybody at this point in time.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    Sorry to disappoint, but Nadezhdin’s chances of winning are exactly zero. What’s more, he is totally discredited in the eyes of 95% of Russians by the fact that a well-known mega-thief and murderer Khodorkovsky supports him.

    As to relations with the so-called West, about 70% of Russians are vehemently opposed to trusting the West and the empire an inch, and another 15-20% are opposed, but less vehemently.

    As to NATO, Russia cannot join it as NATO was from the start and still remains an anti-Russian organization lead by the empire.

    So, dream on.

  444. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    the photos don’t make it look too enticing (dark, dank and cool
     
    Actually find the idea of going to a mine or cave, being underground, somewhat appealing - in a tourist sense. But I find hotels unpleasant and the idea of going to any kind of spa very unappealing.

    Hormesis is a sound principle, but I can't answer to the amounts.

    This is what I really enjoy, tropical, outdoors and warm weather (80 degrees fahrenheit):
     
    best temperatures, IMO, are when the bugs haven't hatched yet or are already dead. Fall and spring in temperate areas.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Actually find the idea of going to a mine or cave, being underground, somewhat appealing – in a tourist sense.

    I do to, for a short sort of adventure. Haven’t done it much though, one with a waterfall though in southern MN. Will go to the large one in southern AZ someday…

    But I find hotels unpleasant and the idea of going to any kind of spa very unappealing…best temperatures, IMO, are when the bugs haven’t hatched yet or are already dead. Fall and spring in temperate areas.

    Believe it or not, I’ve not ever encountered an insect while visiting any of the spas in Arenal CR. After a day soaking in the hot mineral waters, luxuriating underneath one of the small waterfalls getting the best neck and back massage, I feel relaxed and reinvigorated, no body aches whatsoever, and am ready to go out for a nice CR dinner. Getting away from your normal comfort zone could do you some good. I know that you’re an animal lover, and where better to watch animals live in their own natural environment than CR?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    I know that you’re an animal lover, and where better to watch animals live in their own natural environment than CR?
     
    I have known people who quite enjoyed that country.

    I remember one girl I knew as a teenager going there and taking all these prophylactic medicines against parasites beforehand - I honestly thought she was crazy at the time. But that was before a took a class in parasitology, which had much nightmare fuel, including one disease from Central America that I became quite familiar with.

    She was at least half-Italian and that is probably what saved her.

    But I am Irish. Bred mostly for the cold, damp, cloudy coast, and not tropical jungles, and heat, such as an Italian, German, or Slav would shrug off, without even sweating or getting sunburnt.

    There was a time when about 9 out of 10 Europeans going into thejungle died. Probably 10 out of 10 Irishmen. I recall Henry Morton Stanley and Mungo Park - not Sean O'Stanley and Patrick O'Park.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  445. Watched the Korean movie Miss Granny (2014.)

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    It was slow in parts and a bit too maudlin for me. But I thought it was an interesting film sociologically.

    Impossible to imagine Hollywood making a film like that. But it was remade a lot of times in Asia, so must have resonated within some wider cultural sphere.

    Another aspect of it that I liked was the combination of comedy with mortality. In Hollywood films I don’t think one really can find that outside of horror. There may be some comedy plots involving death, but not many as themes.

    I wish Korea made more wholesome films.

  446. German_reader says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @Gerard1234


    the French 10’s of thousands of volunteers (Charlemagne)
     
    Few people know it, but it was French Charlemagne division that was defending Reichstag when Soviet troops captured it in 1945. In full agreement with these European values German government erased the Graffiti left on the Reichstag by Soviet soldiers that took it.

    Replies: @German_reader

    German government erased the Graffiti left on the Reichstag by Soviet soldiers that took it.

    They are still there. iirc the wife of (former) ambassador Melnyk watched them and was moved when she saw the name of Ukrainian cities like Kharkov/Kharkiv in the signatures of soldiers (“This is our history”). However, in light of recent events it has been decided to remove all graffiti referring to places in Russia and replace them with ones mentioning places in Ukraine (especially western Ukraine).

  447. @Gerard1234
    @Beckow

    Spanish sent 50000 volunteers to fight against us, the French 10's of thousands of volunteers (Charlemagne). Probably many swedish dickheads there also. Hungary, Romania,Finland, Bulgaria, nearly 500000 poles, 300000 Italians. The whole industrial base of Sweden, France, German lands, Czechoslovakia manufacturing for the Nazi war effort against us.

    Slovaks did fight with us during a later stage of the war so can be proud of that. Hungary was more Nazi than the Nazis in fighting the Soviet Union far into the period of Soviet advance and never showed an intention of a Romanian or Mannerheim of Finland type of embarrassing, slimeball..... but correct U-turn in favour of the Soviets

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

    It was a continent-wide effort, everyone contributed. Czechs provided one third of the weapons Germany used in Russia, they were in turn fed and kept alive…:) There is also the infamous 1942 post-Heydrich killing demonstration by Czechs in support of Hitler – 100,000’s of thousands in Prague heiling and swearing eternal loyalty…I am not proud of Slovakia in WW2, but we are small people and had little agency after UK-France betrayal. (My great uncle started in 1938 facing the Germans during the Munich crisis, was demobilized, then sent to join Barbarossa in Russia, brought back and sent to Italy in 1943 (not sure why), and ended up in the uprising against the Nazis in 1944. Then he went back to farming and bee-keeping.)

    The mankind is mostly scum, survivors and very stupid people. The idea that we must by all means preserve the “white Euro civilization” is getting old. Do we really need more Scholzes, Pavels, Macrons, Baerbocks, posturing Scandie dickheads looking for the Russian subs?

    We had four great World Cups in a row – none was in Europe and we were fine. Maybe it is time to rotate the pale-face as..holes and try something new…:)

    • Thanks: Gerard1234
  448. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    Actually find the idea of going to a mine or cave, being underground, somewhat appealing – in a tourist sense.
     
    I do to, for a short sort of adventure. Haven't done it much though, one with a waterfall though in southern MN. Will go to the large one in southern AZ someday...

    But I find hotels unpleasant and the idea of going to any kind of spa very unappealing...best temperatures, IMO, are when the bugs haven’t hatched yet or are already dead. Fall and spring in temperate areas.
     
    Believe it or not, I've not ever encountered an insect while visiting any of the spas in Arenal CR. After a day soaking in the hot mineral waters, luxuriating underneath one of the small waterfalls getting the best neck and back massage, I feel relaxed and reinvigorated, no body aches whatsoever, and am ready to go out for a nice CR dinner. Getting away from your normal comfort zone could do you some good. I know that you're an animal lover, and where better to watch animals live in their own natural environment than CR?

    Replies: @songbird

    I know that you’re an animal lover, and where better to watch animals live in their own natural environment than CR?

    I have known people who quite enjoyed that country.

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    I remember one girl I knew as a teenager going there and taking all these prophylactic medicines against parasites beforehand – I honestly thought she was crazy at the time. But that was before a took a class in parasitology, which had much nightmare fuel, including one disease from Central America that I became quite familiar with.

    She was at least half-Italian and that is probably what saved her.

    But I am Irish. Bred mostly for the cold, damp, cloudy coast, and not tropical jungles, and heat, such as an Italian, German, or Slav would shrug off, without even sweating or getting sunburnt.

    There was a time when about 9 out of 10 Europeans going into thejungle died. Probably 10 out of 10 Irishmen. I recall Henry Morton Stanley and Mungo Park – not Sean O’Stanley and Patrick O’Park.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I've been to Costa Rica several times and have not ever gotten sick for one day, nor has anybody else that I know of. Maybe I'm living dangerously, but even though I've considered it, I've never taken malarial vaccinations.

    I've been to Ukraine several times too. The last time I got violently ill with some food parasite. Fortunately, one of my cousins was a medical doctor and quicky prescribed two pills for me. One infused with charcoal and the other one?...Anyway, I got over it all within 24 hours. Would I go back to either country - yes. I do, however, very much respect your own precautions as to avoiding illness etc. (Father knows Best!) and do not want to sound like an insensitive pest. The north country is beautiful too.

    Replies: @QCIC

  449. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Derer

    The video shows a copy of his documents where his mother is ID'ed as Jew Еврей

    https://i.postimg.cc/wjfbfz0J/Sukuri-nshotto-1.png

    There's something his one-time patron being Jew oligarch Berezovsky. There's also a Georgian woman saying at the end that she's his real mother.

    At the end it'd kind of immaterial just like Lenin's Jewish ancestry. He as tsar can identify as whatever that suits him. That's what the video is about.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Gerard1234

    So it appears that Putler is actually a Jew…adds some credence to Ivashka’s theories of Putler’s vassal like status to Klaus Schultz and his organization poised on sinister world domination. Isn’t it about time for IVASHKA TO RETURN HERE? And what about AaronB too?…It’s getting boring responding to mostly the kremlinstooge constituency club based here. 🙁

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    Putin isn't a "Jew" unless he was converted, which is very doubtful taking into account his childhood in Soviet Leningrad.

    His mother was a Georgian, or a Russian living in Georgia, his father was an itinerant Russian worker. He was send off by his mother due to her economic and marital hardship.

    I remember reading that DNA testing confirmed her as his mother. She was left in peace whereas people researching around her died, which is another confirmation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Putina

    Well, another Georgian ruling Russia.... Another war...What if he quietly dislikes Russians so he doesn't care about their lives, sending them off to front ? Surely he keeps grudge against his absent father...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  450. German_reader says:
    @Beckow
    @German_reader

    The 80's escaped me, even most of 90's are a blurr...:) Who can forget the leather-jacketed street-thug-slash-Maoist intellectual Joshka Fisher yelling "On Beograd! bomb the savages!!!". He was giddy with blood-lust. Maybe he missed his street fighting days.

    It was oddly reminiscent of the 1914 madness in Vienna also rushing "On Beograd". But I take your point that earlier there were anti-nuke peace-loving Greens. Idiocy takes many forms, they are slowly exploring all of them.

    The "new parties" that have popped up all over Europe often exist for a reason although some are genuine at the beginning. It is a natural dynamic in a "democracy", an obvious way to game the outcomes.

    A few years back a new phenomenon of the "Pirate parties" showed up (free wifi or something...) Czechia actually elected one led by a pony-tailed moron who used to smoke hash in the Louisiana marshes (don't ask). Predictably they are pro-war, pro-open borders, but still also pro-hash. More the world changes, more it stays the same...

    Replies: @German_reader

    A few years back a new phenomenon of the “Pirate parties” showed up (free wifi or something…)

    That was indeed a very strange phenomenon. German pirates were treated quite sympathetically by the media (whereas reaction to AfD was always hostile, even at the start when it was mostly just about the Euro and not as radicalized as it became after 2014/2015). But eventually the party was hollowed out by radical left-wingers and the attendant in-fighting, with many of the people focused more narrowly on tech issues just giving up and leaving. Maybe that was the plan all along. Predictably enough some of the more prominent protagonists later ended up with Greens and LINKE.
    There was also the case of one PIRATEN politician who murdered an acquaintance (who had rejected his homosexual advances) and then committed suicide:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerwald_Claus-Brunner

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    Thanks for reminding me about gay male killers; here's another one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jun_Lin

    I think that piracy's biggest achievement is websites such as LibGen and Sci-Hub. But AFAIK, those are the work of ex-USSR pirates, not German pirates. The Left should be sympathetic to piracy given that it provides more information for people who are too poor to otherwise afford access to it. Why should access to greater information only be a right that's limited to those with money, after all?

    Replies: @German_reader, @songbird

  451. @AP
    @Beckow


    True, but Russia is also not using its full might. Ukraine is the only fully engaged player
     
    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.

    How was Russia supposed to react? I am still waiting for a rational and doable alternative to this war once NATO moved its expansion to Ukraine and Kiev enthusiastically signed up for it
     
    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    …NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody war a dumb choice.

    Well, Nato did expand, but whatever…Tell us what was a better choice for Russia? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.

    By the way the war could have been over with a compromise deal in 2022 – neutral Kiev and losing some territory – when Russia finally started the war their goals were limited. At this point it is out of control and looking back is kind of pointless. We are in the war to a bitter end – not exactly the first choice for any of the parties…

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    We are in the war to a bitter end – not exactly the first choice for any of the parties…
     
    Not so sure about that, actually:

    https://nypost.com/2024/01/25/news/putin-sends-backchannel-signals-to-us-about-ending-war-in-ukraine-report/

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    Tell us what was a better choice for Russia [than invading Ukraine in 2022]? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.
     
    Do nothing and carry on. Continue becoming more prosperous. Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022, this would have continued. Implement policies to continue to grow the birth rate. Invite in educated Russian-speakers if they want to leave Ukraine or the Baltics, further boosting the population. Improve the infrastructure, which as we now see is in dire straits. Take advantage of stupid anti-nuclear policies and Biden's moronic refusal to export LNG to expand Western Euro reliance on Russian gas further, making even more $$$$. Maybe play games in Africa or the Middle East, lining up contracts to enrich themselves there also. Nobody was going to attack the country with the world's largest nuke arsenal and which was falsely believed to have the world's second strongest military (this bubble has now burst).

    Instead, based on the idiotic idea that Ukrainians were like Slovaks and wouldn't fight for their country, Russia got itself into a long and bloody war, exposed its military weakness, spoiled trade and other relations, shut down its economic growth, worsened its demographic situation.

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

  452. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    I know that you’re an animal lover, and where better to watch animals live in their own natural environment than CR?
     
    I have known people who quite enjoyed that country.

    I remember one girl I knew as a teenager going there and taking all these prophylactic medicines against parasites beforehand - I honestly thought she was crazy at the time. But that was before a took a class in parasitology, which had much nightmare fuel, including one disease from Central America that I became quite familiar with.

    She was at least half-Italian and that is probably what saved her.

    But I am Irish. Bred mostly for the cold, damp, cloudy coast, and not tropical jungles, and heat, such as an Italian, German, or Slav would shrug off, without even sweating or getting sunburnt.

    There was a time when about 9 out of 10 Europeans going into thejungle died. Probably 10 out of 10 Irishmen. I recall Henry Morton Stanley and Mungo Park - not Sean O'Stanley and Patrick O'Park.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I’ve been to Costa Rica several times and have not ever gotten sick for one day, nor has anybody else that I know of. Maybe I’m living dangerously, but even though I’ve considered it, I’ve never taken malarial vaccinations.

    I’ve been to Ukraine several times too. The last time I got violently ill with some food parasite. Fortunately, one of my cousins was a medical doctor and quicky prescribed two pills for me. One infused with charcoal and the other one?…Anyway, I got over it all within 24 hours. Would I go back to either country – yes. I do, however, very much respect your own precautions as to avoiding illness etc. (Father knows Best!) and do not want to sound like an insensitive pest. The north country is beautiful too.

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Re: Malaria, just get some HCQ. Keep the extras for your next bout with COVID!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  453. @Yevardian
    American Indians (lol) are overwhelmingly Brahmin and not at all representative of their countrymen. But even that aside, I wouldn't want them in the US either. The desirability of a foreign nation in your country can't simply be boiled down to solely IQ in an aspergers like fashion.

    I'm an Australian citizen, my extended family comes from USSR and the Mideast. Anyway I don't work with Indians anymore so I've since able to relax about them. But personally, I still prefer the company of almost any other race, including negroes, who at least have some joie de vivre about them.

    Replies: @Sher Singh, @Mr. XYZ

    Yes, I’m well-aware of this fact about US Indians, but is this also true of UK Indians and East African Indians? They also do pretty well, albeit not as well as US Indians. UK Indian schoolchildren apparently have an average IQ of 97+.

    Very high black crime is the main problem with heavily black areas. Fix that problem, and these areas would be much more enjoyable to visit and to live in.

  454. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody war a dumb choice.
     
    Well, Nato did expand, but whatever...Tell us what was a better choice for Russia? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.

    By the way the war could have been over with a compromise deal in 2022 - neutral Kiev and losing some territory - when Russia finally started the war their goals were limited. At this point it is out of control and looking back is kind of pointless. We are in the war to a bitter end - not exactly the first choice for any of the parties...

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    We are in the war to a bitter end – not exactly the first choice for any of the parties…

    Not so sure about that, actually:

    https://nypost.com/2024/01/25/news/putin-sends-backchannel-signals-to-us-about-ending-war-in-ukraine-report/

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    ny post? backchannel? sure, you seem to buy anything..."signals", right

    When Russia decides to end it, they will tell us.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  455. @German_reader
    @Beckow


    A few years back a new phenomenon of the “Pirate parties” showed up (free wifi or something…)
     
    That was indeed a very strange phenomenon. German pirates were treated quite sympathetically by the media (whereas reaction to AfD was always hostile, even at the start when it was mostly just about the Euro and not as radicalized as it became after 2014/2015). But eventually the party was hollowed out by radical left-wingers and the attendant in-fighting, with many of the people focused more narrowly on tech issues just giving up and leaving. Maybe that was the plan all along. Predictably enough some of the more prominent protagonists later ended up with Greens and LINKE.
    There was also the case of one PIRATEN politician who murdered an acquaintance (who had rejected his homosexual advances) and then committed suicide:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerwald_Claus-Brunner

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Thanks for reminding me about gay male killers; here’s another one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jun_Lin

    I think that piracy’s biggest achievement is websites such as LibGen and Sci-Hub. But AFAIK, those are the work of ex-USSR pirates, not German pirates. The Left should be sympathetic to piracy given that it provides more information for people who are too poor to otherwise afford access to it. Why should access to greater information only be a right that’s limited to those with money, after all?

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Mr. XYZ


    Thanks for reminding me about gay male killers
     
    Somehow I'm not surprised that this is a topic you're interested in.

    The Left should be sympathetic to piracy given that it provides more information for people who are too poor to otherwise afford access to it.
     
    Oh yes, I have stolen dozens of books on LibGen, absolutely the best part of the internet. And since my financial means are limited, I have no compunction about it at all. Still hate the left though.

    Replies: @AP

    , @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    I must reiterate my calls for an HBD Wikipedia.

    Much of search is designed to obfuscate, but as far as I know nobody on the right has tried to find a technical solution to this.

    When I try to search "gay homicide rate", I just get inundated with victimization reports, which probably are designed to whitewash said rate. From annecdotes, both public and private, and the links to mental illness and suicide, I would estimate it to be relatively high.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  456. German_reader says:
    @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    Thanks for reminding me about gay male killers; here's another one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jun_Lin

    I think that piracy's biggest achievement is websites such as LibGen and Sci-Hub. But AFAIK, those are the work of ex-USSR pirates, not German pirates. The Left should be sympathetic to piracy given that it provides more information for people who are too poor to otherwise afford access to it. Why should access to greater information only be a right that's limited to those with money, after all?

    Replies: @German_reader, @songbird

    Thanks for reminding me about gay male killers

    Somehow I’m not surprised that this is a topic you’re interested in.

    The Left should be sympathetic to piracy given that it provides more information for people who are too poor to otherwise afford access to it.

    Oh yes, I have stolen dozens of books on LibGen, absolutely the best part of the internet. And since my financial means are limited, I have no compunction about it at all. Still hate the left though.

    • Replies: @AP
    @German_reader


    I have stolen dozens of books on LibGen
     
    Morally, what you have done is not theft. You have not taken a physical object from someone, nor have you denied someone money because you are not in a position to buy it anyways. Had you been willing or able to pay for it, but chose not to, then this could be considered theft.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  457. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234

    That's all totally unconvincing. Russian kia must be somewhere in the tens of thousands by now. I find it bizarre that you're denying this. And why are you still using this idiotic term SMO, as if this were some minor police action? It's a high-intensity war, of a kind not seen in Europe since 1945, high losses are inevitable (and I don't think Western forces would necessarily do any better than Russians and Ukrainians in such a kind of conflict. Quite possibly they would do worse).
    Impossible to know for sure of course how high losses actually are, will be a long time (if ever) until that is known. All one can do now is hazard a rough estimate, or gather some impressionistic datapoints, like in the story below.
    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-officers/

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @QCIC

    Everyone should call it the SMO to stay focussed on what is really happening and recognize that the result is absolutely nothing like a true NATO-Russia balls to wall conflict. Considering how close this combat is to Russia all the major cities in Ukraine are in miraculously good shape. The simplest non-conspiratorial explanation is that Russia does not want to destroy them. It is the single most blatant fact on the ground and no one wants to accept this.

    Russia is keeping this an old-school artillery battle since it diminishes the Ukrainian fighting force with the least civilian casualties. So when the Ukrainian white flag eventually goes up the ratio of guerrilla fighters to citizens will be a low as possible.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @QCIC


    this combat is to Russia all the major cities in Ukraine are in miraculously good shape.
     
    Have no interest in getting into a long argument about this (because frankly I find the sort of discussions dominating this comments section increasingly tiresome), but I didn't get the impression Mariupol was in such great shape after the battle for it. And according to what one reads, part of the former inhabitants has been replaced by new arrivals.
    I stand by my point, SMO is an absurd term, this is the biggest war in Europe for almost 80 years, with some quite innovative developments, nothing like this has happened for a very long time.

    Replies: @QCIC

  458. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I've been to Costa Rica several times and have not ever gotten sick for one day, nor has anybody else that I know of. Maybe I'm living dangerously, but even though I've considered it, I've never taken malarial vaccinations.

    I've been to Ukraine several times too. The last time I got violently ill with some food parasite. Fortunately, one of my cousins was a medical doctor and quicky prescribed two pills for me. One infused with charcoal and the other one?...Anyway, I got over it all within 24 hours. Would I go back to either country - yes. I do, however, very much respect your own precautions as to avoiding illness etc. (Father knows Best!) and do not want to sound like an insensitive pest. The north country is beautiful too.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Re: Malaria, just get some HCQ. Keep the extras for your next bout with COVID!

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    I've been experimenting with Glynac supplementation throughout this flu/covid winter season, 3,200 mgs per day, just to build up my immune system. This helps in keeping glutathione levels at peak capacity - so far so good! I did recently get infected with an earache (very rare for me), but stopped it in its tracks by also soaking some cotton with a concoction of coconut oil and pure parsley oil. Let it remain lodged within my ear for about 6 hours, and it went thoroughly away within 24 hours. I've had great success with parsley oil drops in the past for alleviating any soar throat problems too. Garlic and onions are always nearby too. No need for even any alcohol (although its helped in the past too).

  459. German_reader says:
    @QCIC
    @German_reader

    Everyone should call it the SMO to stay focussed on what is really happening and recognize that the result is absolutely nothing like a true NATO-Russia balls to wall conflict. Considering how close this combat is to Russia all the major cities in Ukraine are in miraculously good shape. The simplest non-conspiratorial explanation is that Russia does not want to destroy them. It is the single most blatant fact on the ground and no one wants to accept this.

    Russia is keeping this an old-school artillery battle since it diminishes the Ukrainian fighting force with the least civilian casualties. So when the Ukrainian white flag eventually goes up the ratio of guerrilla fighters to citizens will be a low as possible.

    Replies: @German_reader

    this combat is to Russia all the major cities in Ukraine are in miraculously good shape.

    Have no interest in getting into a long argument about this (because frankly I find the sort of discussions dominating this comments section increasingly tiresome), but I didn’t get the impression Mariupol was in such great shape after the battle for it. And according to what one reads, part of the former inhabitants has been replaced by new arrivals.
    I stand by my point, SMO is an absurd term, this is the biggest war in Europe for almost 80 years, with some quite innovative developments, nothing like this has happened for a very long time.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @German_reader

    I disagree. This is still a kid gloves war by Russia. Technology has changed since WW2 and the scale of commitment of forces is not remotely the same. This is a proxy war as most Unz readers now recognize.

    I didn't forget Mariupol. I was referring to the largest cities around a million or greater population. Attacking these heavily might lead to an immediate Ukrainian capitulation but also at great cost in civilian lives. Girkin probably knows this and disagrees with the Russian strategy.

    Nothing like this has happened since Vietnam which was a proxy war with huge casualties. In Europe you have the Balkans and Chechen wars on a smaller scale.

    Replies: @LondonBob

  460. @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.
     
    Though plenty of attempts have been done like that, and is possible I suppose, there is no evidence that has actually happened you cretin.

    So Ukronazis have to defend sky against drones, dummy missiles ( about 1/6th the payload at 60-70 kg), cruise missiles, supersonic, hypersonic missiles but not against any planes approaching.........and you retards are discussing flak towers, which would also be the most unconcealable thing in the city? LMAO

    You could also consider why drones flying at least 500 km to Kiev are getting there undetected all the time . Everything drone that flies deep into Russia, despite their BS claims, is launched from inside Russian territory.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.

    Though plenty of attempts have been done like that, and is possible I suppose, there is no evidence that has actually happened you cretin.

    Except it was captured on video. Maybe ask for a source instead of calling people names.

    and you retards are discussing flak towers, which would also be the most unconcealable thing in the city

    The Gephards use anti-air bursting rounds. It’s very similar to a flak gun.

    I never said anything about immobile towers. I answered a question on how it would be possible and here you are calling people retards over a theoretical system that I said may not be better than hunter drones/missiles. Do you just have a really small penis? What is your problem?

    You could also consider why drones flying at least 500 km to Kiev are getting there undetected all the time

    They’re small, quiet and can fly at low altitude.

    Current AA guns aren’t designed for drones but they have taken them down.

    A flak system could be designed for drones. Entirely possible.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Sounds like a good job for a 4 gauge shotgun. No bag limit and no hunting license required. Shoulder surgery optional, if not inevitable.

  461. @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    the conflict is of an entirely different character than the Nazi quest for Lebensraum.
     
    In some ways it is, in others it isn’t. Like in case of Hitler’s war, Russia is fighting united strength of Europe. One can argue that what was united strength in 1941 is united weakness today, but the sides are the same. The outcome will also be the same.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Wokechoke

    It’s basically the same alliance

  462. @AP
    @Beckow


    True, but Russia is also not using its full might. Ukraine is the only fully engaged player
     
    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.

    How was Russia supposed to react? I am still waiting for a rational and doable alternative to this war once NATO moved its expansion to Ukraine and Kiev enthusiastically signed up for it
     
    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    I agree that NATO has applied little of its capability, at least as far has been reported. The SMO is strange, though. Russia is effectively defending her border. Yes, I know Ukies do not see it that way, but I think the Russian military views it exactly like that. This means Russia is really on the defensive. NATO is just playing puppet master with the Ukrainians, getting them to die wholesale while unintentionally being a productive nuisance for Russia. This conflict is helping Russia build up across the board: economically, in terms of material and also with troops and officers. They will have a lot of hardened combat vets who fought shoulder to shoulder with men who died defending their own border. I cannot imagine something which would make a country more hawkish.

    NATO could apply much more force to this project. If this happens Russia may give up on her goal of low civilian casualties and Ukraine will be ground to dust. Europe will have so many refugees the Africans will start returning to their home countries. If NATO gets really deranged and attempts to attack St. Petersburg, Moscow or even Kaliningrad then I think we get immediate nuclear war, but to what level who knows?

    Great job, morons.

  463. @John Johnson
    @Gerard1234


    They have actually been taken out with AK-47s.
     
    Though plenty of attempts have been done like that, and is possible I suppose, there is no evidence that has actually happened you cretin.

    Except it was captured on video. Maybe ask for a source instead of calling people names.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzhz59mwDtU

    and you retards are discussing flak towers, which would also be the most unconcealable thing in the city

    The Gephards use anti-air bursting rounds. It's very similar to a flak gun.

    I never said anything about immobile towers. I answered a question on how it would be possible and here you are calling people retards over a theoretical system that I said may not be better than hunter drones/missiles. Do you just have a really small penis? What is your problem?

    You could also consider why drones flying at least 500 km to Kiev are getting there undetected all the time

    They're small, quiet and can fly at low altitude.

    Current AA guns aren't designed for drones but they have taken them down.

    A flak system could be designed for drones. Entirely possible.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Sounds like a good job for a 4 gauge shotgun. No bag limit and no hunting license required. Shoulder surgery optional, if not inevitable.

  464. @Gerard1234
    @Mikel

    Personally, my idea of perfect diplomacy would be for us to conduct Eichmann-style abductions, trials and pass laws for executions of numerous scum ex western military and political officials. The "rules" of this would have to be that they are not currently elected or serving - so Hollande, Johnson, Merkel , Bildt, (((Vindmann))) and particularly the useless Trump given the Eichmann treatment for their role in Ukraine war crimes post-Maidan.
    It would send a message to the west and not give much threat of military or reciprocal damage to us if its just former officials caught, and all they think is "Putin,Putin,Putin"!!

    It's all a dream of course if any of this happened, but how good would it be to for these narcissistic American pricks to have to delay the date of their non-stop Presidential elections because Trump is on trial in Russia because he was abducted in Argentina on the way to see his boyfriend President there? For most normal countries they don't have exact dates for every election known permanently, so the date change itself would be insignificant......for Americans to have to suffer it would be immense OTT squealing.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Personally, my idea of perfect diplomacy would be for us to conduct Eichmann-style abductions, trials and pass laws for executions of numerous scum ex western military and political officials.

    I understand your feelings but this is getting out of hand. Just because there haven’t been any incidents like the missile that killed the Polish farmers lately, it doesn’t mean that serious miscalculations cannot happen at any time. Ukraine is repeatedly using Western weapons (and possibly Western intelligence) to blow planes out of the sky well inside Russia. An accident “impossible to ignore” by one of the parties and the war crimes in Donbas that you mention could become child play by comparison.

    Russia should stop this costly strategy and play the long game instead. Consider that Turkey is not less autocratic than Russia but that’s never been a problem to be a member of NATO. An intelligent Russian ruler should talk nice to the morons leading the West now. Putin has run its course. Replace him and pretend that you go along with our insane agendas but then carry on doing your thing inside Russia, as Turkey does, and probably become top dog once the West completes the suicidal path it has embarked on. Imagine the US federal government fighting the states’ national guards in order to keep the borders open instead of fighting the invaders, while they also try to imprison the presidential candidate leading the polls. Why sweat it against an empire in such terminal decline?

  465. A few weeks back, I also caught about five minutes of that One Piece live-action show that the antiwoke critics were promoting.

    [MORE]

    Not familiar with the IP, but seemed a tad too cartoonish for me. While I often enjoy the fanciful, I have never liked rubber-people, with the possible exception of the un-PC Indian character Dhalsim from the Street Fighter video games.

    Also, I am not too sure how well it might fit with the original IP, but I find multicult casts alienating. One of the main attractions of Asian entertainment for me is the way that one can find ethnically-cohesive stories, and it is sad to me that American money might be causing that to change, to an increasing degree.

    • Replies: @A123
    @songbird

    The casting is sufficiently similar to the original IP that few people complain.

     
    https://ecdn.game4v.com/g4v-content/uploads/2023/05/07091807/One-Piece-live-action-001-game4v-1683425886-20.jpg
     

    I do not have deep knowledge of the prior productions, but "very silly" is often used as a description for the earlier animation/manga. Despite some bits that were over the top cartoonish, it was on balance light hearted and amusing. I look forward to Season 2.

    PEACE 😇

  466. The MX5 support series kicked of Daytona events.

    The true street car chassis means that there are no fancy aerodynamics at play. Drafting is vital. It is a wonderful series for younger drivers with limited budgets.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    Car 54, what are you?
    The female commentator ruined the race video by referring to a car 54 get off as a 'tank slapper'.
    Gimme a break. See below for understanding. An oldie but representative.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Lw0x0vnGA

    Replies: @A123

  467. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    We are in the war to a bitter end – not exactly the first choice for any of the parties…
     
    Not so sure about that, actually:

    https://nypost.com/2024/01/25/news/putin-sends-backchannel-signals-to-us-about-ending-war-in-ukraine-report/

    Replies: @Beckow

    ny post? backchannel? sure, you seem to buy anything…”signals”, right

    When Russia decides to end it, they will tell us.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    Well, what about this?

    https://news.yahoo.com/putin-signals-washington-ready-talks-225000203.html

    Replies: @Beckow

  468. @German_reader
    @QCIC


    this combat is to Russia all the major cities in Ukraine are in miraculously good shape.
     
    Have no interest in getting into a long argument about this (because frankly I find the sort of discussions dominating this comments section increasingly tiresome), but I didn't get the impression Mariupol was in such great shape after the battle for it. And according to what one reads, part of the former inhabitants has been replaced by new arrivals.
    I stand by my point, SMO is an absurd term, this is the biggest war in Europe for almost 80 years, with some quite innovative developments, nothing like this has happened for a very long time.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I disagree. This is still a kid gloves war by Russia. Technology has changed since WW2 and the scale of commitment of forces is not remotely the same. This is a proxy war as most Unz readers now recognize.

    I didn’t forget Mariupol. I was referring to the largest cities around a million or greater population. Attacking these heavily might lead to an immediate Ukrainian capitulation but also at great cost in civilian lives. Girkin probably knows this and disagrees with the Russian strategy.

    Nothing like this has happened since Vietnam which was a proxy war with huge casualties. In Europe you have the Balkans and Chechen wars on a smaller scale.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    Mass conscription wars are likely an anomaly of the twentieth century, despite attempts by the government in Kiev they haven't managed full mobilisation. Far too many have fled to Russia or the rest of Europe, many others hiding out.

    Destructive power is much greater now, but it has been a choice not to wage war in the manner seen in Mosul, Gaza and Fallujah, but urban warfare is urban warfare and will always lead to widespread destruction, no matter the intentions.

    Replies: @QCIC

  469. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Re: Malaria, just get some HCQ. Keep the extras for your next bout with COVID!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I’ve been experimenting with Glynac supplementation throughout this flu/covid winter season, 3,200 mgs per day, just to build up my immune system. This helps in keeping glutathione levels at peak capacity – so far so good! I did recently get infected with an earache (very rare for me), but stopped it in its tracks by also soaking some cotton with a concoction of coconut oil and pure parsley oil. Let it remain lodged within my ear for about 6 hours, and it went thoroughly away within 24 hours. I’ve had great success with parsley oil drops in the past for alleviating any soar throat problems too. Garlic and onions are always nearby too. No need for even any alcohol (although its helped in the past too).

  470. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody war a dumb choice.
     
    Well, Nato did expand, but whatever...Tell us what was a better choice for Russia? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.

    By the way the war could have been over with a compromise deal in 2022 - neutral Kiev and losing some territory - when Russia finally started the war their goals were limited. At this point it is out of control and looking back is kind of pointless. We are in the war to a bitter end - not exactly the first choice for any of the parties...

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Tell us what was a better choice for Russia [than invading Ukraine in 2022]? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.

    Do nothing and carry on. Continue becoming more prosperous. Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022, this would have continued. Implement policies to continue to grow the birth rate. Invite in educated Russian-speakers if they want to leave Ukraine or the Baltics, further boosting the population. Improve the infrastructure, which as we now see is in dire straits. Take advantage of stupid anti-nuclear policies and Biden’s moronic refusal to export LNG to expand Western Euro reliance on Russian gas further, making even more $$$$. Maybe play games in Africa or the Middle East, lining up contracts to enrich themselves there also. Nobody was going to attack the country with the world’s largest nuke arsenal and which was falsely believed to have the world’s second strongest military (this bubble has now burst).

    Instead, based on the idiotic idea that Ukrainians were like Slovaks and wouldn’t fight for their country, Russia got itself into a long and bloody war, exposed its military weakness, spoiled trade and other relations, shut down its economic growth, worsened its demographic situation.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack, Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @AP
    @AP


    Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022
     
    Should have written, 2021.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Beckow
    @AP

    Your solution: Do nothing and carry on. But I addressed that option:

    Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.

    You can talk all you want about economic growth, trade, gas, demographics, Africa - those are irrelevant when it comes to the basic security of the state. The indisputable reality that Russia was facing in 2022 was Nato in Ukraine and a hostile, well-armed Ukie enemy who was in a de facto state of war with Russia over Donbas, Crimes, and Russian minority treatment.

    Russia did basically nothing for 7 years and tried to get the Minsk compromise deal implemented. It didn't work - there was no stop of the NATO moving to Ukraine: you can look up that in December 2021 and January 2022 all key Western leaders, Biden, BoJo, Soltenberg (NATO boss), and Zelko all stated that "Ukraine will be in NATO...and it is none of Russia's business"...

    You option of doing nothing was judged by Russia as worse than the war - it is their country, their security, US would do the same.

    You can be proud that a lot of Ukies chose to fight to death or are being forced to do it - but it only makes their situation much worse. That is a failure of evolution not seen since the Gdansk "workers" went on a strike demanding that their shipyard be dismantled (it was)...but they got to put a huge cross on the place were they used to work, so they got something out of it. I am not sure the Ukies will get even that...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    Agree, Agree and Agree!!!

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    I agree with all of this and would only like to add that on top of this Russia should have outright annexed the Donbass and maybe the Crimean Corridor as well back in 2014. Then it would have likely gotten only minor additional sanctions for doing so. In theory, it was not too late to do this even back in February 2022, but the costs for Russia re: Western sanctions could have been higher due to Western policymakers and the Western public being exposed to anti-Russia views for eight years straight by that point in time. Alternatively, a second-best option in February 2022 would have been for Russia to send its troops to the Donbass (which Russia actually did right before the start of the war) and leave it at that, with Russia subsequently de facto integrating the Donbass into Russia but without any formal annexation. This could have made the resulting Western sanctions on Russia somewhat less severe than they would have been with a full annexation, but of course even with a full annexation, the Western sanctions on Russia would have probably been much less than they actually are in real life with a full-on Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  471. @German_reader
    @Mr. XYZ


    Thanks for reminding me about gay male killers
     
    Somehow I'm not surprised that this is a topic you're interested in.

    The Left should be sympathetic to piracy given that it provides more information for people who are too poor to otherwise afford access to it.
     
    Oh yes, I have stolen dozens of books on LibGen, absolutely the best part of the internet. And since my financial means are limited, I have no compunction about it at all. Still hate the left though.

    Replies: @AP

    I have stolen dozens of books on LibGen

    Morally, what you have done is not theft. You have not taken a physical object from someone, nor have you denied someone money because you are not in a position to buy it anyways. Had you been willing or able to pay for it, but chose not to, then this could be considered theft.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Had you been willing or able to pay for it, but chose not to, then this could be considered theft.
     
    The question of ability to pay ultimately comes down to tradeoffs. For instance, one could afford to pay for books (physical or virtual), but then one would need to make sacrifices in other aspects of one's life, such as not being able to spend as much money on delicious food, not being able to go on vacation as often, et cetera.

    Frankly, if I was a multi-millionaire, I'd fund the separation surgery of Joy and Joyce Magsino in the Philippines, who are a pair of conjoined twins who are attached at the face. But since I have limited means, even if I had that kind of money, I would prefer to spend it on something else, such as having three children (one pair of twins, hopefully) with two super-smart egg donors and two Mexican surrogate mothers.
  472. @AP
    @Beckow


    Tell us what was a better choice for Russia [than invading Ukraine in 2022]? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.
     
    Do nothing and carry on. Continue becoming more prosperous. Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022, this would have continued. Implement policies to continue to grow the birth rate. Invite in educated Russian-speakers if they want to leave Ukraine or the Baltics, further boosting the population. Improve the infrastructure, which as we now see is in dire straits. Take advantage of stupid anti-nuclear policies and Biden's moronic refusal to export LNG to expand Western Euro reliance on Russian gas further, making even more $$$$. Maybe play games in Africa or the Middle East, lining up contracts to enrich themselves there also. Nobody was going to attack the country with the world's largest nuke arsenal and which was falsely believed to have the world's second strongest military (this bubble has now burst).

    Instead, based on the idiotic idea that Ukrainians were like Slovaks and wouldn't fight for their country, Russia got itself into a long and bloody war, exposed its military weakness, spoiled trade and other relations, shut down its economic growth, worsened its demographic situation.

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022

    Should have written, 2021.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    How would you have advocated Russia handle the risk of a future Ukrainian Operation Storm in the Donbass? I mean without changing anything in history before the start of 2022. (Else, the obvious answer would be to quickly annex the Donbass in addition to Crimea back in 2014.)

  473. @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    Thanks for reminding me about gay male killers; here's another one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jun_Lin

    I think that piracy's biggest achievement is websites such as LibGen and Sci-Hub. But AFAIK, those are the work of ex-USSR pirates, not German pirates. The Left should be sympathetic to piracy given that it provides more information for people who are too poor to otherwise afford access to it. Why should access to greater information only be a right that's limited to those with money, after all?

    Replies: @German_reader, @songbird

    I must reiterate my calls for an HBD Wikipedia.

    Much of search is designed to obfuscate, but as far as I know nobody on the right has tried to find a technical solution to this.

    When I try to search “gay homicide rate”, I just get inundated with victimization reports, which probably are designed to whitewash said rate. From annecdotes, both public and private, and the links to mental illness and suicide, I would estimate it to be relatively high.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    There already is a type of HBD Wikipedia-style blog:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/

    It's a start, don't you think? But it would be nice if it actually had its own Wiki, no doubt.

    Replies: @songbird

  474. @songbird
    A few weeks back, I also caught about five minutes of that One Piece live-action show that the antiwoke critics were promoting.

    Not familiar with the IP, but seemed a tad too cartoonish for me. While I often enjoy the fanciful, I have never liked rubber-people, with the possible exception of the un-PC Indian character Dhalsim from the Street Fighter video games.

    Also, I am not too sure how well it might fit with the original IP, but I find multicult casts alienating. One of the main attractions of Asian entertainment for me is the way that one can find ethnically-cohesive stories, and it is sad to me that American money might be causing that to change, to an increasing degree.

    Replies: @A123

    The casting is sufficiently similar to the original IP that few people complain.

     

     

    I do not have deep knowledge of the prior productions, but “very silly” is often used as a description for the earlier animation/manga. Despite some bits that were over the top cartoonish, it was on balance light hearted and amusing. I look forward to Season 2.

    PEACE 😇

    • Thanks: songbird
  475. @AP
    @Beckow


    Tell us what was a better choice for Russia [than invading Ukraine in 2022]? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.
     
    Do nothing and carry on. Continue becoming more prosperous. Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022, this would have continued. Implement policies to continue to grow the birth rate. Invite in educated Russian-speakers if they want to leave Ukraine or the Baltics, further boosting the population. Improve the infrastructure, which as we now see is in dire straits. Take advantage of stupid anti-nuclear policies and Biden's moronic refusal to export LNG to expand Western Euro reliance on Russian gas further, making even more $$$$. Maybe play games in Africa or the Middle East, lining up contracts to enrich themselves there also. Nobody was going to attack the country with the world's largest nuke arsenal and which was falsely believed to have the world's second strongest military (this bubble has now burst).

    Instead, based on the idiotic idea that Ukrainians were like Slovaks and wouldn't fight for their country, Russia got itself into a long and bloody war, exposed its military weakness, spoiled trade and other relations, shut down its economic growth, worsened its demographic situation.

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    Your solution: Do nothing and carry on. But I addressed that option:

    Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.

    You can talk all you want about economic growth, trade, gas, demographics, Africa – those are irrelevant when it comes to the basic security of the state. The indisputable reality that Russia was facing in 2022 was Nato in Ukraine and a hostile, well-armed Ukie enemy who was in a de facto state of war with Russia over Donbas, Crimes, and Russian minority treatment.

    Russia did basically nothing for 7 years and tried to get the Minsk compromise deal implemented. It didn’t work – there was no stop of the NATO moving to Ukraine: you can look up that in December 2021 and January 2022 all key Western leaders, Biden, BoJo, Soltenberg (NATO boss), and Zelko all stated that “Ukraine will be in NATO…and it is none of Russia’s business”…

    You option of doing nothing was judged by Russia as worse than the war – it is their country, their security, US would do the same.

    You can be proud that a lot of Ukies chose to fight to death or are being forced to do it – but it only makes their situation much worse. That is a failure of evolution not seen since the Gdansk “workers” went on a strike demanding that their shipyard be dismantled (it was)…but they got to put a huge cross on the place were they used to work, so they got something out of it. I am not sure the Ukies will get even that…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…
     
    Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia. Ukrainian oligarchs have always shown a propensity to evolve business relations with Russia. Just look at Poroshenko for example. It could have been a good deal for everybody, a much bigger deal than what Russia has with Hungary today, a part of NATO. As I said earlier today:

    A smart Russia had plenty of time to lure Ukraine back into its imperial embrace by developing enticements greater than any possible enticements from the West, and it didn’t need to waste valuable assets and human lives in doing so. And just think about how much they would have already made with the NS2 that was already in place and brand spanking new two years ago? Neutral Finland and Sweden are now in NATO. But Russia’s policies in conducting this war don’t really look very smart, do they?
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @Sean

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.
     
    1. It would not be next to the core Russian regions, which are Moscow, the Volga, and the Urals, as well as areas in the East that generate much of the gas and oil. Here is where Russian GDP comes from:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_Nominal_GDP_per_capita_in_2015.png/800px-Federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_Nominal_GDP_per_capita_in_2015.png

    Moscow is much further from the Ukrainian border than any European capital is from its country's borders.

    2. No matter how militaristic Ukraine would be, it would not attack nuclear-armed Russia. At worst it would take back Donbas, which Russia had refused to annex anyways. Oh those terrible "parades", what would Russia have done? Moreover, prior to 2022 attitudes towards Russia in Ukraine were getting softer, not harder. So zero chance of Ukraine attacking Russia. Not anymore - Russia has opened that door in 2022.

    So again, do nothing, become more prosperous, maybe become prosperous and nice enough to attract more Russian-speaking immigrants from Ukraine and the Baltics, while Ukraine militarizes (but still fails to keep up) and has parades.


    Russia did basically nothing for 7 years and tried to get the Minsk compromise deal implemented
     
    So what? Failing to use Minsk to keep Ukraine out of the West and doing nothing about that failure was still better than invasion.

    you can look up that in December 2021 and January 2022 all key Western leaders, Biden, BoJo, Soltenberg (NATO boss), and Zelko all stated that “Ukraine will be in NATO…and it is none of Russia’s business”…
     
    They had been saying those kinds of things for years and they never happened. They would have been saying those things in 2031 and 2032 too, I'm sure. Any day, Ukraine would be in NATO.

    And again, even if Ukraine would have made it into NATO - what then? Nobody is invading troublesome Iran or North Korea, but someone would invade Russia? NATO's biggest consequence would be to prevent all future potential invasions of Ukraine by Russia. Maybe that was the real reason for Russia's opposition to NATO expansion? Because it would have limited Russia's options to make war?


    You option of doing nothing was judged by Russia as worse than the war
     
    Russia assumed the war would be quick and relatively bloodless. It judged that a quick and fairly bloodless war, like Iraq for the Americans, was better than doing nothing. A stupid assumption that led to a stupid decision to invade. As is clear from Russian preparations at the beginning, Russia did not judge in 2022 that a 2 year long war with 100,000+ dead and major damage was better than doing nothing.

    You can be proud that a lot of Ukies chose to fight to death or are being forced to do it – but it only makes their situation much worse.
     
    Just as it was much worse for Poles to fight against Nazis than it was for Slovaks to serve them? People have different priorities. Ukrainians are willing to fight for their independence from Russia. I knew they would. I am shocked that the Russian state was so incompetent and/or corrupt that it didn't have intelligence that Ukrainians would fight.

    That is a failure of evolution not seen since the Gdansk “workers” went on a strike demanding that their shipyard be dismantled (it was
     
    And their kids have much better lives in a much better country.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ

  476. @AP
    @Beckow


    Tell us what was a better choice for Russia [than invading Ukraine in 2022]? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.
     
    Do nothing and carry on. Continue becoming more prosperous. Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022, this would have continued. Implement policies to continue to grow the birth rate. Invite in educated Russian-speakers if they want to leave Ukraine or the Baltics, further boosting the population. Improve the infrastructure, which as we now see is in dire straits. Take advantage of stupid anti-nuclear policies and Biden's moronic refusal to export LNG to expand Western Euro reliance on Russian gas further, making even more $$$$. Maybe play games in Africa or the Middle East, lining up contracts to enrich themselves there also. Nobody was going to attack the country with the world's largest nuke arsenal and which was falsely believed to have the world's second strongest military (this bubble has now burst).

    Instead, based on the idiotic idea that Ukrainians were like Slovaks and wouldn't fight for their country, Russia got itself into a long and bloody war, exposed its military weakness, spoiled trade and other relations, shut down its economic growth, worsened its demographic situation.

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    Agree, Agree and Agree!!!

    • Thanks: AP
  477. @A123
    The MX5 support series kicked of Daytona events.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5wtmeAdjPDc

    The true street car chassis means that there are no fancy aerodynamics at play. Drafting is vital. It is a wonderful series for younger drivers with limited budgets.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    Car 54, what are you?
    The female commentator ruined the race video by referring to a car 54 get off as a ‘tank slapper’.
    Gimme a break. See below for understanding. An oldie but representative.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC

    For decades in auto racing, a "tank slapper" has been an event that moves fuel in the tank to the point where pick-ups no longer work. The engine becomes lean or cuts out. Other than Porsche, this is a loss at the back end of the vehicle. Modern fuel cell systems are less prone to fuel slapping in the tank. However, the nomenclature remains.

    I am glad that you watched the race. Sorry that you did not know of the common auto racing usage of the term "tank slap". I probably would have similar issues if I watched motorcycle racing with its proprietary verbiage.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

  478. @Beckow
    @AP

    Your solution: Do nothing and carry on. But I addressed that option:

    Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.

    You can talk all you want about economic growth, trade, gas, demographics, Africa - those are irrelevant when it comes to the basic security of the state. The indisputable reality that Russia was facing in 2022 was Nato in Ukraine and a hostile, well-armed Ukie enemy who was in a de facto state of war with Russia over Donbas, Crimes, and Russian minority treatment.

    Russia did basically nothing for 7 years and tried to get the Minsk compromise deal implemented. It didn't work - there was no stop of the NATO moving to Ukraine: you can look up that in December 2021 and January 2022 all key Western leaders, Biden, BoJo, Soltenberg (NATO boss), and Zelko all stated that "Ukraine will be in NATO...and it is none of Russia's business"...

    You option of doing nothing was judged by Russia as worse than the war - it is their country, their security, US would do the same.

    You can be proud that a lot of Ukies chose to fight to death or are being forced to do it - but it only makes their situation much worse. That is a failure of evolution not seen since the Gdansk "workers" went on a strike demanding that their shipyard be dismantled (it was)...but they got to put a huge cross on the place were they used to work, so they got something out of it. I am not sure the Ukies will get even that...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…

    Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia. Ukrainian oligarchs have always shown a propensity to evolve business relations with Russia. Just look at Poroshenko for example. It could have been a good deal for everybody, a much bigger deal than what Russia has with Hungary today, a part of NATO. As I said earlier today:

    A smart Russia had plenty of time to lure Ukraine back into its imperial embrace by developing enticements greater than any possible enticements from the West, and it didn’t need to waste valuable assets and human lives in doing so. And just think about how much they would have already made with the NS2 that was already in place and brand spanking new two years ago? Neutral Finland and Sweden are now in NATO. But Russia’s policies in conducting this war don’t really look very smart, do they?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia.
     
    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine - but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases...in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes - and they may not be willing to do that.

    That was the reality that the mad attempt to move NATO to Ukraine led to: it was an unacceptable threat to Russia, "red line", as would be Quebec in a military alliance with Russia. It is very elementary - you lie about it, because you are losing the war. So now your goal is to deceive and to pretend that there was "no plan for Ukr. in NATO", or that if there was it would not mean much. (Or you are possibly really that dumb.)

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    , @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    It depends what Putin fears about contact with the Nato countries and whether he thinks falling under the sway of Western values is a good way for his people's culture to develop in the future. Maybe Putin definitely did not want his country being Westernised whatever the materiel benefits were, and thought that his idea of Russian values would be certain to lose out if he did nothing. Perhaps the man in the Kremlin saw what was coming and thought he had to try and stop it even if the odds were against him. Of course if you think Putin lacks a spiritual philosophy of life, the idea that what he dreads above all is not military defeat but Russians forsaking their own destiny to try and be financially well off will seem bizarre.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  479. @QCIC
    @A123

    Car 54, what are you?
    The female commentator ruined the race video by referring to a car 54 get off as a 'tank slapper'.
    Gimme a break. See below for understanding. An oldie but representative.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Lw0x0vnGA

    Replies: @A123

    For decades in auto racing, a “tank slapper” has been an event that moves fuel in the tank to the point where pick-ups no longer work. The engine becomes lean or cuts out. Other than Porsche, this is a loss at the back end of the vehicle. Modern fuel cell systems are less prone to fuel slapping in the tank. However, the nomenclature remains.

    I am glad that you watched the race. Sorry that you did not know of the common auto racing usage of the term “tank slap”. I probably would have similar issues if I watched motorcycle racing with its proprietary verbiage.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    Ok, news to me. Someone lifted it from bikes, goes back to the 70's at least. Used to be a thing on fast street bikes. It is called a tank slapper because the bars hit the tank.

    I like cars, but contemporary four wheel closed-circuit pavement racing is like a video game. You can do better. I just skimmed the video. The second car tapping the leader is ridiculous, what is this, NASCAR?

    Replies: @A123

  480. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…
     
    Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia. Ukrainian oligarchs have always shown a propensity to evolve business relations with Russia. Just look at Poroshenko for example. It could have been a good deal for everybody, a much bigger deal than what Russia has with Hungary today, a part of NATO. As I said earlier today:

    A smart Russia had plenty of time to lure Ukraine back into its imperial embrace by developing enticements greater than any possible enticements from the West, and it didn’t need to waste valuable assets and human lives in doing so. And just think about how much they would have already made with the NS2 that was already in place and brand spanking new two years ago? Neutral Finland and Sweden are now in NATO. But Russia’s policies in conducting this war don’t really look very smart, do they?
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @Sean

    Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia.

    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine – but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases…in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes – and they may not be willing to do that.

    That was the reality that the mad attempt to move NATO to Ukraine led to: it was an unacceptable threat to Russia, “red line”, as would be Quebec in a military alliance with Russia. It is very elementary – you lie about it, because you are losing the war. So now your goal is to deceive and to pretend that there was “no plan for Ukr. in NATO“, or that if there was it would not mean much. (Or you are possibly really that dumb.)

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Beckow

    AP, Hack: It is not just about Ukraine.

    The problem is simply the aggressive moves of the West against Russia. If Ukraine hypothetically reaches some sort of stalemate the West will push on some other Russian soft spot. This progressive aggression has been going on since the 1990's. Ukraine is just the most recent example of the Western behavior. This involves the West walking away from nuclear disarmament. Sometimes I think you people cannot read, so here it is again: nuclear arms control. The West intentionally crossed explicit Russian "red lines" with NATO expansion. What could be more aggressive?

    While you prefer to see the power struggle in Ukraine as a "democratic process" you must have enough sense and empathy to at least recognize a Russian perspective that this was clearly a coup. You don't have to agree, but just think it through. Something like this, "Hmm, I guess I see how Russia might interpret the Western meddling in Ukraine as a threatening coup...I don't care what those evil Mongols think." The events of Maidan may have seemed too heartwarming for you to reject, but surely you had an inkling of what was going on when artillery began firing and hitting civilians in Donbas. Please don't tell me you thought McCain's visit to Kiev was some sort of positive omen.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine – but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases…in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes – and they may not be willing to do that.
     
    Ukraine wouldn't be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity to its borders today. I never hear them complain about Turkey, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania.the Baltic States, Slovakia or Hungary today. Barely a whimper as Finland recently joined NATO. Only Turkey has nuclear weapons of these countries, and Russia never complains. Even if Ukraine were to ever access NATO, I seriously doubt that it would be set-up as a staging point for nuclear weapons aimed at Russia.

    Replies: @Sean, @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases…in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing
     
    So let's summarize. You think it was reasonable for Russia to start a major war with 100,000s of dead because:

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table. *

    Based on these collectively improbable events, you find it reasonable to start a major war in Europe with 100,000s dead.

    *And by the way, did you know that the West was able to do plenty of meddling with Russia in the 90s without NATO in Ukraine? Because the type of meddling one does with nuclear countries is not the type that requires an army next door, indeed that is the last thing one would use in such a case.
  481. @A123
    @QCIC

    For decades in auto racing, a "tank slapper" has been an event that moves fuel in the tank to the point where pick-ups no longer work. The engine becomes lean or cuts out. Other than Porsche, this is a loss at the back end of the vehicle. Modern fuel cell systems are less prone to fuel slapping in the tank. However, the nomenclature remains.

    I am glad that you watched the race. Sorry that you did not know of the common auto racing usage of the term "tank slap". I probably would have similar issues if I watched motorcycle racing with its proprietary verbiage.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    Ok, news to me. Someone lifted it from bikes, goes back to the 70’s at least. Used to be a thing on fast street bikes. It is called a tank slapper because the bars hit the tank.

    I like cars, but contemporary four wheel closed-circuit pavement racing is like a video game. You can do better. I just skimmed the video. The second car tapping the leader is ridiculous, what is this, NASCAR?

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    The second car tapping the leader is ridiculous, what is this, NASCAR?
     
    Well..... Look at the circuit layout

     
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Daytona_International_Speedway_-_Road_Course.svg/1200px-Daytona_International_Speedway_-_Road_Course.svg.png
     

    Daytona is the only "Roval" on the calendar. For this particular event... Bump drafting techniques work. You will note that these junior drivers are more disciplined than their NASCAR equivalents. There was no epic 20+ car wreck.

    To keep costs down, the MX5 series runs sprints that are only about 40 minutes long. You do not need to skim them other than bypassing wasted time under safety car. Here is Race 2.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9H9nRX2L3gU

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  482. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…
     
    Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia. Ukrainian oligarchs have always shown a propensity to evolve business relations with Russia. Just look at Poroshenko for example. It could have been a good deal for everybody, a much bigger deal than what Russia has with Hungary today, a part of NATO. As I said earlier today:

    A smart Russia had plenty of time to lure Ukraine back into its imperial embrace by developing enticements greater than any possible enticements from the West, and it didn’t need to waste valuable assets and human lives in doing so. And just think about how much they would have already made with the NS2 that was already in place and brand spanking new two years ago? Neutral Finland and Sweden are now in NATO. But Russia’s policies in conducting this war don’t really look very smart, do they?
     

    Replies: @Beckow, @Sean

    It depends what Putin fears about contact with the Nato countries and whether he thinks falling under the sway of Western values is a good way for his people’s culture to develop in the future. Maybe Putin definitely did not want his country being Westernised whatever the materiel benefits were, and thought that his idea of Russian values would be certain to lose out if he did nothing. Perhaps the man in the Kremlin saw what was coming and thought he had to try and stop it even if the odds were against him. Of course if you think Putin lacks a spiritual philosophy of life, the idea that what he dreads above all is not military defeat but Russians forsaking their own destiny to try and be financially well off will seem bizarre.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Sean


    Of course if you think Putin lacks a spiritual philosophy of life, the idea that what he dreads above all is not military defeat but Russians forsaking their own destiny to try and be financially well off will seem bizarre.
     
    I've never for an instance thought that Putler held any genuine Christian moral convictions. He seems too bloodthirsty and coniving for that. He uses the Orthodox church to try and whitewash his image and gain the church's approval for all of his bloodthirsty deeds.

    Replies: @Sean

  483. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia.
     
    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine - but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases...in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes - and they may not be willing to do that.

    That was the reality that the mad attempt to move NATO to Ukraine led to: it was an unacceptable threat to Russia, "red line", as would be Quebec in a military alliance with Russia. It is very elementary - you lie about it, because you are losing the war. So now your goal is to deceive and to pretend that there was "no plan for Ukr. in NATO", or that if there was it would not mean much. (Or you are possibly really that dumb.)

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    AP, Hack: It is not just about Ukraine.

    The problem is simply the aggressive moves of the West against Russia. If Ukraine hypothetically reaches some sort of stalemate the West will push on some other Russian soft spot. This progressive aggression has been going on since the 1990’s. Ukraine is just the most recent example of the Western behavior. This involves the West walking away from nuclear disarmament. Sometimes I think you people cannot read, so here it is again: nuclear arms control. The West intentionally crossed explicit Russian “red lines” with NATO expansion. What could be more aggressive?

    While you prefer to see the power struggle in Ukraine as a “democratic process” you must have enough sense and empathy to at least recognize a Russian perspective that this was clearly a coup. You don’t have to agree, but just think it through. Something like this, “Hmm, I guess I see how Russia might interpret the Western meddling in Ukraine as a threatening coup…I don’t care what those evil Mongols think.” The events of Maidan may have seemed too heartwarming for you to reject, but surely you had an inkling of what was going on when artillery began firing and hitting civilians in Donbas. Please don’t tell me you thought McCain’s visit to Kiev was some sort of positive omen.

    • Agree: Derer
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC

    The sad thing is that they know - but they have tribal minds not interested in reality only in pushing their tribal agenda. They are marketing mythology and self-serving half-lies. The problem is that once Russia called their bluff in Ukraine the marketing wasn't enough. Now it is all about reality and power.

    They use the Western ignorance to rewrite the recent history. They describe only one side and are only interested in their own suffering - it all has a purpose. But to understand one has to let go of the purpose. They can't, it is too emotional.

    I wonder how they will handle the disappointment as the inevitable happens...Kiev is not winning, and can't really win and there will be no NATO in Ukraine - and in spite of that the costs in lives and destruction will be enormous.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

  484. @QCIC
    @A123

    Ok, news to me. Someone lifted it from bikes, goes back to the 70's at least. Used to be a thing on fast street bikes. It is called a tank slapper because the bars hit the tank.

    I like cars, but contemporary four wheel closed-circuit pavement racing is like a video game. You can do better. I just skimmed the video. The second car tapping the leader is ridiculous, what is this, NASCAR?

    Replies: @A123

    The second car tapping the leader is ridiculous, what is this, NASCAR?

    Well….. Look at the circuit layout

     

     

    Daytona is the only “Roval” on the calendar. For this particular event… Bump drafting techniques work. You will note that these junior drivers are more disciplined than their NASCAR equivalents. There was no epic 20+ car wreck.

    To keep costs down, the MX5 series runs sprints that are only about 40 minutes long. You do not need to skim them other than bypassing wasted time under safety car. Here is Race 2.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    Old MX-5's are plentiful and not exorbitant and fun to drive. Do you ever browse the listings? **

    ** Probably not much fun if you are NFL sized body.

  485. @A123
    @QCIC


    The second car tapping the leader is ridiculous, what is this, NASCAR?
     
    Well..... Look at the circuit layout

     
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Daytona_International_Speedway_-_Road_Course.svg/1200px-Daytona_International_Speedway_-_Road_Course.svg.png
     

    Daytona is the only "Roval" on the calendar. For this particular event... Bump drafting techniques work. You will note that these junior drivers are more disciplined than their NASCAR equivalents. There was no epic 20+ car wreck.

    To keep costs down, the MX5 series runs sprints that are only about 40 minutes long. You do not need to skim them other than bypassing wasted time under safety car. Here is Race 2.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9H9nRX2L3gU

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Old MX-5’s are plentiful and not exorbitant and fun to drive. Do you ever browse the listings? **

    ** Probably not much fun if you are NFL sized body.

    • LOL: A123
  486. @QCIC
    @Beckow

    AP, Hack: It is not just about Ukraine.

    The problem is simply the aggressive moves of the West against Russia. If Ukraine hypothetically reaches some sort of stalemate the West will push on some other Russian soft spot. This progressive aggression has been going on since the 1990's. Ukraine is just the most recent example of the Western behavior. This involves the West walking away from nuclear disarmament. Sometimes I think you people cannot read, so here it is again: nuclear arms control. The West intentionally crossed explicit Russian "red lines" with NATO expansion. What could be more aggressive?

    While you prefer to see the power struggle in Ukraine as a "democratic process" you must have enough sense and empathy to at least recognize a Russian perspective that this was clearly a coup. You don't have to agree, but just think it through. Something like this, "Hmm, I guess I see how Russia might interpret the Western meddling in Ukraine as a threatening coup...I don't care what those evil Mongols think." The events of Maidan may have seemed too heartwarming for you to reject, but surely you had an inkling of what was going on when artillery began firing and hitting civilians in Donbas. Please don't tell me you thought McCain's visit to Kiev was some sort of positive omen.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The sad thing is that they know – but they have tribal minds not interested in reality only in pushing their tribal agenda. They are marketing mythology and self-serving half-lies. The problem is that once Russia called their bluff in Ukraine the marketing wasn’t enough. Now it is all about reality and power.

    They use the Western ignorance to rewrite the recent history. They describe only one side and are only interested in their own suffering – it all has a purpose. But to understand one has to let go of the purpose. They can’t, it is too emotional.

    I wonder how they will handle the disappointment as the inevitable happens…Kiev is not winning, and can’t really win and there will be no NATO in Ukraine – and in spite of that the costs in lives and destruction will be enormous.

    • Agree: Derer
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    I wonder how they will handle the disappointment as the inevitable happens
     
    There will be a totally different B.S. agenda to be attended to and nobody will say a word. Heard anything in the mainstream about the corona virus black death catastrophe lately?

    For all practical purposes all of that (2020-2021) never happened in this universe. If you were 17 years old in 2020 you might not forget it. Or if you lost your business. If you get your reality from twitter and you don't belong to a set of people who really got hosed big time by these goons you are going to lose track in all of what's coming on the timeline.
    , @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    I wonder how they will handle the disappointment as the inevitable happens…
     
    Exactly like the banderies coped with the fact that their side lost in WW2.
  487. @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    ny post? backchannel? sure, you seem to buy anything..."signals", right

    When Russia decides to end it, they will tell us.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    Wow, even better...you moved from yellow journalism to the official in-house organ of the neo-con security establishment - Wash Post. What's next? Kim Il's speeches?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  488. @AP
    @Beckow


    Tell us what was a better choice for Russia [than invading Ukraine in 2022]? I will take anything from a preventive Russian surrender to nuking of Lvov, but you need to explain how it would be better for Russia than this war.
     
    Do nothing and carry on. Continue becoming more prosperous. Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022, this would have continued. Implement policies to continue to grow the birth rate. Invite in educated Russian-speakers if they want to leave Ukraine or the Baltics, further boosting the population. Improve the infrastructure, which as we now see is in dire straits. Take advantage of stupid anti-nuclear policies and Biden's moronic refusal to export LNG to expand Western Euro reliance on Russian gas further, making even more $$$$. Maybe play games in Africa or the Middle East, lining up contracts to enrich themselves there also. Nobody was going to attack the country with the world's largest nuke arsenal and which was falsely believed to have the world's second strongest military (this bubble has now burst).

    Instead, based on the idiotic idea that Ukrainians were like Slovaks and wouldn't fight for their country, Russia got itself into a long and bloody war, exposed its military weakness, spoiled trade and other relations, shut down its economic growth, worsened its demographic situation.

    Replies: @AP, @Beckow, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    I agree with all of this and would only like to add that on top of this Russia should have outright annexed the Donbass and maybe the Crimean Corridor as well back in 2014. Then it would have likely gotten only minor additional sanctions for doing so. In theory, it was not too late to do this even back in February 2022, but the costs for Russia re: Western sanctions could have been higher due to Western policymakers and the Western public being exposed to anti-Russia views for eight years straight by that point in time. Alternatively, a second-best option in February 2022 would have been for Russia to send its troops to the Donbass (which Russia actually did right before the start of the war) and leave it at that, with Russia subsequently de facto integrating the Donbass into Russia but without any formal annexation. This could have made the resulting Western sanctions on Russia somewhat less severe than they would have been with a full annexation, but of course even with a full annexation, the Western sanctions on Russia would have probably been much less than they actually are in real life with a full-on Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ

    If you "agree"with AP's comment where his basic premise is for Russia to "do nothing", why in the world would you promote the idea that back in 2014 you'd find it acceptable (or even preferable) for Russia to have taken the Donbas and the corridor too? If anything, hasn't this disastrous war shown that it's always been more than just capturing Donbas, but all of Ukraine too? Or realistically, as much as Russia could get away with stealing?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  489. @AP
    @German_reader


    I have stolen dozens of books on LibGen
     
    Morally, what you have done is not theft. You have not taken a physical object from someone, nor have you denied someone money because you are not in a position to buy it anyways. Had you been willing or able to pay for it, but chose not to, then this could be considered theft.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Had you been willing or able to pay for it, but chose not to, then this could be considered theft.

    The question of ability to pay ultimately comes down to tradeoffs. For instance, one could afford to pay for books (physical or virtual), but then one would need to make sacrifices in other aspects of one’s life, such as not being able to spend as much money on delicious food, not being able to go on vacation as often, et cetera.

    Frankly, if I was a multi-millionaire, I’d fund the separation surgery of Joy and Joyce Magsino in the Philippines, who are a pair of conjoined twins who are attached at the face. But since I have limited means, even if I had that kind of money, I would prefer to spend it on something else, such as having three children (one pair of twins, hopefully) with two super-smart egg donors and two Mexican surrogate mothers.

  490. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia.
     
    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine - but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases...in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes - and they may not be willing to do that.

    That was the reality that the mad attempt to move NATO to Ukraine led to: it was an unacceptable threat to Russia, "red line", as would be Quebec in a military alliance with Russia. It is very elementary - you lie about it, because you are losing the war. So now your goal is to deceive and to pretend that there was "no plan for Ukr. in NATO", or that if there was it would not mean much. (Or you are possibly really that dumb.)

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine – but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases…in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes – and they may not be willing to do that.

    Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity to its borders today. I never hear them complain about Turkey, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania.the Baltic States, Slovakia or Hungary today. Barely a whimper as Finland recently joined NATO. Only Turkey has nuclear weapons of these countries, and Russia never complains. Even if Ukraine were to ever access NATO, I seriously doubt that it would be set-up as a staging point for nuclear weapons aimed at Russia.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Mr. Hack


    Even if Ukraine were to ever access NATO, I seriously doubt that it would be set-up as a staging point for nuclear weapons aimed at Russia
     
    Agreeing for the sake of argument such was obviously 100 percent true and the man in the Kremlin were to assume the intentions of the West and Ukraine could never change to much more kinetically malevolent ones, then Ukraine left to follow its own destiny would surely have followed the path of Poland and become run as if it was the 51st state of the US: abandoning its traditional values as the Ukrainians including ethic Russian ones became many times richer than the average Russian.

    Such economic development and materialism in Ukraine of all places was intended to be (being touted by pundits in the West as) an effective post post 20015 ideological counter offensive inexorably crushing what what Putin holds most dear: the Russian populace's belief in the way the country is being governed by him and will continue to be when he chooses a successor.

    Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity to its borders today.
     
    Ukraine as an example of what Russia could be if abandoned its own historical destiny ad looked to the west would have been fatal to everything at issue for Putin, and the only chance of possibly preventing such an outcome lay in taking military action. Did he even think he would probably succeed with a coup de main SMO or did he see it as the least bad option given the certainty of his system being eroded by the example of liberal Ukraine if he did nothing?

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity
     
    Nonsense. Ukraine is much larger and much closer to the Russian core region. Get a map, it is rather obvious. Kiev has also shown implacable hostility to anything Russian ("kill the Moskali") and has been in a de facto state of war with Russia since 2014.

    None of the other NATO states come close to that combination of threats. It is the difference between threat from Cuba and a threat from Mexico or Quebec. It is an order of magnitude worse threat and Russia made clear that they saw it that way.

    Why couldn't Biden-BoJo-Zelko-NATO simply issue a statement in January 2022 that "Ukraine will not join NATO" - instead they publicly insisted that it will. It is up to each country to decide the level of threat they will tolerate: Latvia is harmless, so is Finland, but Ukraine is obviously not. They have shown since 2022 that they are willing to do just about anything to Russia. In fact, they are retroactively showing that Russia wasn't irrational seeing Kiev as a threat.

    Replies: @AP

  491. @Beckow
    @QCIC

    The sad thing is that they know - but they have tribal minds not interested in reality only in pushing their tribal agenda. They are marketing mythology and self-serving half-lies. The problem is that once Russia called their bluff in Ukraine the marketing wasn't enough. Now it is all about reality and power.

    They use the Western ignorance to rewrite the recent history. They describe only one side and are only interested in their own suffering - it all has a purpose. But to understand one has to let go of the purpose. They can't, it is too emotional.

    I wonder how they will handle the disappointment as the inevitable happens...Kiev is not winning, and can't really win and there will be no NATO in Ukraine - and in spite of that the costs in lives and destruction will be enormous.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    I wonder how they will handle the disappointment as the inevitable happens

    There will be a totally different B.S. agenda to be attended to and nobody will say a word. Heard anything in the mainstream about the corona virus black death catastrophe lately?

    For all practical purposes all of that (2020-2021) never happened in this universe. If you were 17 years old in 2020 you might not forget it. Or if you lost your business. If you get your reality from twitter and you don’t belong to a set of people who really got hosed big time by these goons you are going to lose track in all of what’s coming on the timeline.

  492. @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    It depends what Putin fears about contact with the Nato countries and whether he thinks falling under the sway of Western values is a good way for his people's culture to develop in the future. Maybe Putin definitely did not want his country being Westernised whatever the materiel benefits were, and thought that his idea of Russian values would be certain to lose out if he did nothing. Perhaps the man in the Kremlin saw what was coming and thought he had to try and stop it even if the odds were against him. Of course if you think Putin lacks a spiritual philosophy of life, the idea that what he dreads above all is not military defeat but Russians forsaking their own destiny to try and be financially well off will seem bizarre.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Of course if you think Putin lacks a spiritual philosophy of life, the idea that what he dreads above all is not military defeat but Russians forsaking their own destiny to try and be financially well off will seem bizarre.

    I’ve never for an instance thought that Putler held any genuine Christian moral convictions. He seems too bloodthirsty and coniving for that. He uses the Orthodox church to try and whitewash his image and gain the church’s approval for all of his bloodthirsty deeds.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    Putin may believe he is a tall handsome stallion of a man and with Tolstoy 'that every nation is unique and worthwhile — none better or worse than others.' But he knows there is no one in Washington who who accepts either proposition. They do not think Russia deserves to be conventional- militarily powerful or possess thermonuclear weapons capability comparable to America's, and gloatingly look forward to various national malaises of Russia (economic and demographic) leading to it collapsing as a truely independent power. Ukraine always interested American strategists as a way to help peacefully help the process of Russian decay along while not alarming the Kremlin. It would have worked with someone like Gorby or Yeltsin, who the beltway seem to have assumed were typical post cold war Russian leaders, but Putin was a counter intel specialist: a professional paranoiac.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer, @Mr. Hack

  493. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine – but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases…in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes – and they may not be willing to do that.
     
    Ukraine wouldn't be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity to its borders today. I never hear them complain about Turkey, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania.the Baltic States, Slovakia or Hungary today. Barely a whimper as Finland recently joined NATO. Only Turkey has nuclear weapons of these countries, and Russia never complains. Even if Ukraine were to ever access NATO, I seriously doubt that it would be set-up as a staging point for nuclear weapons aimed at Russia.

    Replies: @Sean, @Beckow

    Even if Ukraine were to ever access NATO, I seriously doubt that it would be set-up as a staging point for nuclear weapons aimed at Russia

    Agreeing for the sake of argument such was obviously 100 percent true and the man in the Kremlin were to assume the intentions of the West and Ukraine could never change to much more kinetically malevolent ones, then Ukraine left to follow its own destiny would surely have followed the path of Poland and become run as if it was the 51st state of the US: abandoning its traditional values as the Ukrainians including ethic Russian ones became many times richer than the average Russian.

    Such economic development and materialism in Ukraine of all places was intended to be (being touted by pundits in the West as) an effective post post 20015 ideological counter offensive inexorably crushing what what Putin holds most dear: the Russian populace’s belief in the way the country is being governed by him and will continue to be when he chooses a successor.

    Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity to its borders today.

    Ukraine as an example of what Russia could be if abandoned its own historical destiny ad looked to the west would have been fatal to everything at issue for Putin, and the only chance of possibly preventing such an outcome lay in taking military action. Did he even think he would probably succeed with a coup de main SMO or did he see it as the least bad option given the certainty of his system being eroded by the example of liberal Ukraine if he did nothing?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Sean

    Sean wrote:


    Did he [Putin/Russia] even think he would probably succeed with a coup de main SMO or did he see it as the least bad option given the certainty of his system being eroded by the example of liberal Ukraine if he did nothing?
     
    I think this is accurate, but doesn't go far enough. The "certainty of [the Russian] system being eroded" likely leads to warfare, it is not some sterile process. This erosion would surely be fueled by pressure from the West as was the original fall of the USSR. People tend to look at these Russian issues under a microscope and forget the context which is essential to understanding the Russian moves.

    I think the distinction between Crimea and Donbas is simply priority. Due to the cultural significance (iconography) of Crimea, Russia would have been willing to use nuclear weapons to defend that repatriation in 2015. Some in the West understood this and Crimea was left alone until 2022. This was not true of Donbas at that time. Now that the conflict has widened this may or may not be true for those other regions.
  494. @Beckow
    @AP

    Your solution: Do nothing and carry on. But I addressed that option:

    Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.

    You can talk all you want about economic growth, trade, gas, demographics, Africa - those are irrelevant when it comes to the basic security of the state. The indisputable reality that Russia was facing in 2022 was Nato in Ukraine and a hostile, well-armed Ukie enemy who was in a de facto state of war with Russia over Donbas, Crimes, and Russian minority treatment.

    Russia did basically nothing for 7 years and tried to get the Minsk compromise deal implemented. It didn't work - there was no stop of the NATO moving to Ukraine: you can look up that in December 2021 and January 2022 all key Western leaders, Biden, BoJo, Soltenberg (NATO boss), and Zelko all stated that "Ukraine will be in NATO...and it is none of Russia's business"...

    You option of doing nothing was judged by Russia as worse than the war - it is their country, their security, US would do the same.

    You can be proud that a lot of Ukies chose to fight to death or are being forced to do it - but it only makes their situation much worse. That is a failure of evolution not seen since the Gdansk "workers" went on a strike demanding that their shipyard be dismantled (it was)...but they got to put a huge cross on the place were they used to work, so they got something out of it. I am not sure the Ukies will get even that...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.

    1. It would not be next to the core Russian regions, which are Moscow, the Volga, and the Urals, as well as areas in the East that generate much of the gas and oil. Here is where Russian GDP comes from:

    Moscow is much further from the Ukrainian border than any European capital is from its country’s borders.

    2. No matter how militaristic Ukraine would be, it would not attack nuclear-armed Russia. At worst it would take back Donbas, which Russia had refused to annex anyways. Oh those terrible “parades”, what would Russia have done? Moreover, prior to 2022 attitudes towards Russia in Ukraine were getting softer, not harder. So zero chance of Ukraine attacking Russia. Not anymore – Russia has opened that door in 2022.

    So again, do nothing, become more prosperous, maybe become prosperous and nice enough to attract more Russian-speaking immigrants from Ukraine and the Baltics, while Ukraine militarizes (but still fails to keep up) and has parades.

    Russia did basically nothing for 7 years and tried to get the Minsk compromise deal implemented

    So what? Failing to use Minsk to keep Ukraine out of the West and doing nothing about that failure was still better than invasion.

    you can look up that in December 2021 and January 2022 all key Western leaders, Biden, BoJo, Soltenberg (NATO boss), and Zelko all stated that “Ukraine will be in NATO…and it is none of Russia’s business”…

    They had been saying those kinds of things for years and they never happened. They would have been saying those things in 2031 and 2032 too, I’m sure. Any day, Ukraine would be in NATO.

    And again, even if Ukraine would have made it into NATO – what then? Nobody is invading troublesome Iran or North Korea, but someone would invade Russia? NATO’s biggest consequence would be to prevent all future potential invasions of Ukraine by Russia. Maybe that was the real reason for Russia’s opposition to NATO expansion? Because it would have limited Russia’s options to make war?

    You option of doing nothing was judged by Russia as worse than the war

    Russia assumed the war would be quick and relatively bloodless. It judged that a quick and fairly bloodless war, like Iraq for the Americans, was better than doing nothing. A stupid assumption that led to a stupid decision to invade. As is clear from Russian preparations at the beginning, Russia did not judge in 2022 that a 2 year long war with 100,000+ dead and major damage was better than doing nothing.

    You can be proud that a lot of Ukies chose to fight to death or are being forced to do it – but it only makes their situation much worse.

    Just as it was much worse for Poles to fight against Nazis than it was for Slovaks to serve them? People have different priorities. Ukrainians are willing to fight for their independence from Russia. I knew they would. I am shocked that the Russian state was so incompetent and/or corrupt that it didn’t have intelligence that Ukrainians would fight.

    That is a failure of evolution not seen since the Gdansk “workers” went on a strike demanding that their shipyard be dismantled (it was

    And their kids have much better lives in a much better country.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @AP


    And their kids have much better lives in a much better country.
     
    Recent developments in Poland look rather ominous (e.g. the new minister of family affairs https://civilek.info/en/2023/12/17/tremble-polish-families-here-are-your-new-ministers/ ). The people who predicted Poland would follow the precedents of Spain and Ireland, but faster and even more destructively, may well be proven correct.
    (not that this means Russia's current system is in any way a preferable alternative, it certainly isn't).

    EDIT: https://nitter.cz/worden_van/status/1750868004320186480#m
    Lol.

    Replies: @AP, @LondonBob

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Just as it was much worse for Poles to fight against Nazis than it was for Slovaks to serve them?
     
    Well, I'd argue that it was immoral for Poland to refuse to agree to Danzig's reunion with Germany, considering that even a post-Nazi German regime would find it very difficult to make peace short of a decisive German defeat on the battlefield so long as the Danzig question is not settled to its own satisfaction.

    As it was, Germany ended up getting the Danzig Germans anyway, just not Danzig itself--well, not in the long-run, at least.

    And again, even if Ukraine would have made it into NATO – what then? Nobody is invading troublesome Iran or North Korea, but someone would invade Russia? NATO’s biggest consequence would be to prevent all future potential invasions of Ukraine by Russia. Maybe that was the real reason for Russia’s opposition to NATO expansion? Because it would have limited Russia’s options to make war?
     
    To further strengthen this point, the US had troops in South Korea for many decades and still has them there today. And yet the US has still never used these troops to try invading North Korea in spite of the extremely atrocious human rights situation there, even back in the 1990s when North Korea had no or almost no nuclear weapons.
  495. @Mr. Hack
    @Sean


    Of course if you think Putin lacks a spiritual philosophy of life, the idea that what he dreads above all is not military defeat but Russians forsaking their own destiny to try and be financially well off will seem bizarre.
     
    I've never for an instance thought that Putler held any genuine Christian moral convictions. He seems too bloodthirsty and coniving for that. He uses the Orthodox church to try and whitewash his image and gain the church's approval for all of his bloodthirsty deeds.

    Replies: @Sean

    Putin may believe he is a tall handsome stallion of a man and with Tolstoy ‘that every nation is unique and worthwhile — none better or worse than others.’ But he knows there is no one in Washington who who accepts either proposition. They do not think Russia deserves to be conventional- militarily powerful or possess thermonuclear weapons capability comparable to America’s, and gloatingly look forward to various national malaises of Russia (economic and demographic) leading to it collapsing as a truely independent power. Ukraine always interested American strategists as a way to help peacefully help the process of Russian decay along while not alarming the Kremlin. It would have worked with someone like Gorby or Yeltsin, who the beltway seem to have assumed were typical post cold war Russian leaders, but Putin was a counter intel specialist: a professional paranoiac.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Sean

    I think your analysis is about right for a very high level view. The West is one big bully and so is Russia. They can either fight or have a standoff, but genuine peace is difficult. The Western bully thinks it is stronger than the Russian so it wants to beat him to a pulp and take him out of consideration while this is possible. Prior to 1990 the Russian bully was strong and this was too dangerous. By 2000 the Western bully realized that Russia was reviving and the window of opportunity to achieve domination was closing.

    They are both bullies since they have obscene nuclear arsenals and large conventional military forces. Maybe these assets are justified or maybe not, but having such capabilities suggests a country or empire is a bully. Having an independent third bully in China should make things more interesting.

    , @Derer
    @Sean


    various national malaises of Russia (economic and demographic) leading to it collapsing as a truely independent power.
     
    How can you write this slander when, in fact, the US is irreparably polarized and in a deep racial and political quagmire. In fact, is heading on a path to a blue and red divide. The post WWII European brain is dying off and replaced by the generation of drugs and violence incapable to restore the normalcy or previous greatness. China will anytime claim that 33 trillion debt. Running country by borrowing is never smart, ask the Greeks.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Sean

    Putler's professional paranoia:

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2022/07/01/69b19c7b1fb7e853612c41caba9487e2.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp

  496. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Ukraine would never be in a position to provoke or invade Russia.
     
    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine - but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases...in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes - and they may not be willing to do that.

    That was the reality that the mad attempt to move NATO to Ukraine led to: it was an unacceptable threat to Russia, "red line", as would be Quebec in a military alliance with Russia. It is very elementary - you lie about it, because you are losing the war. So now your goal is to deceive and to pretend that there was "no plan for Ukr. in NATO", or that if there was it would not mean much. (Or you are possibly really that dumb.)

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases…in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing

    So let’s summarize. You think it was reasonable for Russia to start a major war with 100,000s of dead because:

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table. *

    Based on these collectively improbable events, you find it reasonable to start a major war in Europe with 100,000s dead.

    *And by the way, did you know that the West was able to do plenty of meddling with Russia in the 90s without NATO in Ukraine? Because the type of meddling one does with nuclear countries is not the type that requires an army next door, indeed that is the last thing one would use in such a case.

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
  497. German_reader says:
    @AP
    @Beckow


    Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.
     
    1. It would not be next to the core Russian regions, which are Moscow, the Volga, and the Urals, as well as areas in the East that generate much of the gas and oil. Here is where Russian GDP comes from:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_Nominal_GDP_per_capita_in_2015.png/800px-Federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_Nominal_GDP_per_capita_in_2015.png

    Moscow is much further from the Ukrainian border than any European capital is from its country's borders.

    2. No matter how militaristic Ukraine would be, it would not attack nuclear-armed Russia. At worst it would take back Donbas, which Russia had refused to annex anyways. Oh those terrible "parades", what would Russia have done? Moreover, prior to 2022 attitudes towards Russia in Ukraine were getting softer, not harder. So zero chance of Ukraine attacking Russia. Not anymore - Russia has opened that door in 2022.

    So again, do nothing, become more prosperous, maybe become prosperous and nice enough to attract more Russian-speaking immigrants from Ukraine and the Baltics, while Ukraine militarizes (but still fails to keep up) and has parades.


    Russia did basically nothing for 7 years and tried to get the Minsk compromise deal implemented
     
    So what? Failing to use Minsk to keep Ukraine out of the West and doing nothing about that failure was still better than invasion.

    you can look up that in December 2021 and January 2022 all key Western leaders, Biden, BoJo, Soltenberg (NATO boss), and Zelko all stated that “Ukraine will be in NATO…and it is none of Russia’s business”…
     
    They had been saying those kinds of things for years and they never happened. They would have been saying those things in 2031 and 2032 too, I'm sure. Any day, Ukraine would be in NATO.

    And again, even if Ukraine would have made it into NATO - what then? Nobody is invading troublesome Iran or North Korea, but someone would invade Russia? NATO's biggest consequence would be to prevent all future potential invasions of Ukraine by Russia. Maybe that was the real reason for Russia's opposition to NATO expansion? Because it would have limited Russia's options to make war?


    You option of doing nothing was judged by Russia as worse than the war
     
    Russia assumed the war would be quick and relatively bloodless. It judged that a quick and fairly bloodless war, like Iraq for the Americans, was better than doing nothing. A stupid assumption that led to a stupid decision to invade. As is clear from Russian preparations at the beginning, Russia did not judge in 2022 that a 2 year long war with 100,000+ dead and major damage was better than doing nothing.

    You can be proud that a lot of Ukies chose to fight to death or are being forced to do it – but it only makes their situation much worse.
     
    Just as it was much worse for Poles to fight against Nazis than it was for Slovaks to serve them? People have different priorities. Ukrainians are willing to fight for their independence from Russia. I knew they would. I am shocked that the Russian state was so incompetent and/or corrupt that it didn't have intelligence that Ukrainians would fight.

    That is a failure of evolution not seen since the Gdansk “workers” went on a strike demanding that their shipyard be dismantled (it was
     
    And their kids have much better lives in a much better country.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ

    And their kids have much better lives in a much better country.

    Recent developments in Poland look rather ominous (e.g. the new minister of family affairs https://civilek.info/en/2023/12/17/tremble-polish-families-here-are-your-new-ministers/ ). The people who predicted Poland would follow the precedents of Spain and Ireland, but faster and even more destructively, may well be proven correct.
    (not that this means Russia’s current system is in any way a preferable alternative, it certainly isn’t).

    EDIT: https://nitter.cz/worden_van/status/1750868004320186480#m
    Lol.

    • Replies: @AP
    @German_reader

    If Poland liberalizes and secularizes, it will not follow Spain or Ireland, but Czechia. Less church, more porn stars, but not a flood of non-Europeans. Not great of course, but also not Ireland or Spain.

    The alternative to Poland going West would have been something like Belarus.

    Correction to the post you replied to: (doing it here because of the 3 post limit):


    Moscow is much further from the Ukrainian border than any European capital is from its country’s borders.
     
    Rome is about 75 km further from the Swiss border than Moscow is from the Ukrainian border. Madrid is only slightly further from the French border than Moscow is from the Ukrainian border, not much further.

    Otherwise - Moscow is a lot further from the Ukrainian border (550 km) than other European national capitals are from other countries. Paris to Germany - 400 km (it's closer to Belgium). London to Calais, France - 177 km. Berlin to the Polish border is only 92 km. Warsaw to Belarus - 210 km. Would Poland be justified in invading Belarus and installing a friendly government, because of how close Belarus is to the Polish capital?

    Replies: @songbird

    , @LondonBob
    @German_reader

    Such things are dictated top down, as recent history of the West shows, so yes I expect Poland is in for difficult times, but there is a possibility that this current lot don't last more than one term, and then it is question whether the damage will be reversed, or conserved.

    Of course the Russian system is a preferable alternative, the only question is by how much.

    Replies: @German_reader

  498. @German_reader
    @AP


    And their kids have much better lives in a much better country.
     
    Recent developments in Poland look rather ominous (e.g. the new minister of family affairs https://civilek.info/en/2023/12/17/tremble-polish-families-here-are-your-new-ministers/ ). The people who predicted Poland would follow the precedents of Spain and Ireland, but faster and even more destructively, may well be proven correct.
    (not that this means Russia's current system is in any way a preferable alternative, it certainly isn't).

    EDIT: https://nitter.cz/worden_van/status/1750868004320186480#m
    Lol.

    Replies: @AP, @LondonBob

    If Poland liberalizes and secularizes, it will not follow Spain or Ireland, but Czechia. Less church, more porn stars, but not a flood of non-Europeans. Not great of course, but also not Ireland or Spain.

    The alternative to Poland going West would have been something like Belarus.

    Correction to the post you replied to: (doing it here because of the 3 post limit):

    Moscow is much further from the Ukrainian border than any European capital is from its country’s borders.

    Rome is about 75 km further from the Swiss border than Moscow is from the Ukrainian border. Madrid is only slightly further from the French border than Moscow is from the Ukrainian border, not much further.

    Otherwise – Moscow is a lot further from the Ukrainian border (550 km) than other European national capitals are from other countries. Paris to Germany – 400 km (it’s closer to Belgium). London to Calais, France – 177 km. Berlin to the Polish border is only 92 km. Warsaw to Belarus – 210 km. Would Poland be justified in invading Belarus and installing a friendly government, because of how close Belarus is to the Polish capital?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @AP


    If Poland liberalizes and secularizes, it will not follow Spain or Ireland, but Czechia.
     
    Czechia is too small and landlocked to have much strategic value.

    Poland itself is small (compared to the US) and declining but it could be the seed of a Reconquista, if it acquires a nuclear deterrent, and increases its fertility.

    It will be targeted in a way that Czechia has not been. Probably several intelligence agencies have already been working on the problem for years.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  499. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    I must reiterate my calls for an HBD Wikipedia.

    Much of search is designed to obfuscate, but as far as I know nobody on the right has tried to find a technical solution to this.

    When I try to search "gay homicide rate", I just get inundated with victimization reports, which probably are designed to whitewash said rate. From annecdotes, both public and private, and the links to mental illness and suicide, I would estimate it to be relatively high.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    There already is a type of HBD Wikipedia-style blog:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/

    It’s a start, don’t you think? But it would be nice if it actually had its own Wiki, no doubt.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Well, Emil might have the best HBD blog that is still up and has regular posts, but it is not really the same thing as a Wikipedia. Though it has a lot of references, it is not search optimized for the layman, or edited for clarity and concision, or an attempt at an organized core of knowledge.

    It may be that many of the common questions don't have much research to go on. That the holes in the knowledge discourage such an endeavor. And that it is hard to close them in this political environment.

  500. @AP
    @AP


    Russian GDP grew 5% in 2022
     
    Should have written, 2021.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    How would you have advocated Russia handle the risk of a future Ukrainian Operation Storm in the Donbass? I mean without changing anything in history before the start of 2022. (Else, the obvious answer would be to quickly annex the Donbass in addition to Crimea back in 2014.)

  501. @AP
    @Beckow


    Russia could have done nothing and sat back – in 10-15 years there would be a militaristic, heavily-armed, hostile Ukraine on its borders next to the core Russian regions with NATO bases, missiles, parades, etc…That was the plan, anyone disputing it is lying because it failed.
     
    1. It would not be next to the core Russian regions, which are Moscow, the Volga, and the Urals, as well as areas in the East that generate much of the gas and oil. Here is where Russian GDP comes from:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_Nominal_GDP_per_capita_in_2015.png/800px-Federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_Nominal_GDP_per_capita_in_2015.png

    Moscow is much further from the Ukrainian border than any European capital is from its country's borders.

    2. No matter how militaristic Ukraine would be, it would not attack nuclear-armed Russia. At worst it would take back Donbas, which Russia had refused to annex anyways. Oh those terrible "parades", what would Russia have done? Moreover, prior to 2022 attitudes towards Russia in Ukraine were getting softer, not harder. So zero chance of Ukraine attacking Russia. Not anymore - Russia has opened that door in 2022.

    So again, do nothing, become more prosperous, maybe become prosperous and nice enough to attract more Russian-speaking immigrants from Ukraine and the Baltics, while Ukraine militarizes (but still fails to keep up) and has parades.


    Russia did basically nothing for 7 years and tried to get the Minsk compromise deal implemented
     
    So what? Failing to use Minsk to keep Ukraine out of the West and doing nothing about that failure was still better than invasion.

    you can look up that in December 2021 and January 2022 all key Western leaders, Biden, BoJo, Soltenberg (NATO boss), and Zelko all stated that “Ukraine will be in NATO…and it is none of Russia’s business”…
     
    They had been saying those kinds of things for years and they never happened. They would have been saying those things in 2031 and 2032 too, I'm sure. Any day, Ukraine would be in NATO.

    And again, even if Ukraine would have made it into NATO - what then? Nobody is invading troublesome Iran or North Korea, but someone would invade Russia? NATO's biggest consequence would be to prevent all future potential invasions of Ukraine by Russia. Maybe that was the real reason for Russia's opposition to NATO expansion? Because it would have limited Russia's options to make war?


    You option of doing nothing was judged by Russia as worse than the war
     
    Russia assumed the war would be quick and relatively bloodless. It judged that a quick and fairly bloodless war, like Iraq for the Americans, was better than doing nothing. A stupid assumption that led to a stupid decision to invade. As is clear from Russian preparations at the beginning, Russia did not judge in 2022 that a 2 year long war with 100,000+ dead and major damage was better than doing nothing.

    You can be proud that a lot of Ukies chose to fight to death or are being forced to do it – but it only makes their situation much worse.
     
    Just as it was much worse for Poles to fight against Nazis than it was for Slovaks to serve them? People have different priorities. Ukrainians are willing to fight for their independence from Russia. I knew they would. I am shocked that the Russian state was so incompetent and/or corrupt that it didn't have intelligence that Ukrainians would fight.

    That is a failure of evolution not seen since the Gdansk “workers” went on a strike demanding that their shipyard be dismantled (it was
     
    And their kids have much better lives in a much better country.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ

    Just as it was much worse for Poles to fight against Nazis than it was for Slovaks to serve them?

    Well, I’d argue that it was immoral for Poland to refuse to agree to Danzig’s reunion with Germany, considering that even a post-Nazi German regime would find it very difficult to make peace short of a decisive German defeat on the battlefield so long as the Danzig question is not settled to its own satisfaction.

    As it was, Germany ended up getting the Danzig Germans anyway, just not Danzig itself–well, not in the long-run, at least.

    And again, even if Ukraine would have made it into NATO – what then? Nobody is invading troublesome Iran or North Korea, but someone would invade Russia? NATO’s biggest consequence would be to prevent all future potential invasions of Ukraine by Russia. Maybe that was the real reason for Russia’s opposition to NATO expansion? Because it would have limited Russia’s options to make war?

    To further strengthen this point, the US had troops in South Korea for many decades and still has them there today. And yet the US has still never used these troops to try invading North Korea in spite of the extremely atrocious human rights situation there, even back in the 1990s when North Korea had no or almost no nuclear weapons.

  502. @Mr. Hack
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    So it appears that Putler is actually a Jew...adds some credence to Ivashka's theories of Putler's vassal like status to Klaus Schultz and his organization poised on sinister world domination. Isn't it about time for IVASHKA TO RETURN HERE? And what about AaronB too?...It's getting boring responding to mostly the kremlinstooge constituency club based here. :-(

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Putin isn’t a “Jew” unless he was converted, which is very doubtful taking into account his childhood in Soviet Leningrad.

    His mother was a Georgian, or a Russian living in Georgia, his father was an itinerant Russian worker. He was send off by his mother due to her economic and marital hardship.

    I remember reading that DNA testing confirmed her as his mother. She was left in peace whereas people researching around her died, which is another confirmation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Putina

    Well, another Georgian ruling Russia…. Another war…What if he quietly dislikes Russians so he doesn’t care about their lives, sending them off to front ? Surely he keeps grudge against his absent father…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Another Polish Perspective

    So you must obviously think that the photo of Putler's birth certificate within China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms' comment #443 is a fake,? I'd be interested in knowing who you think is behind such an incredible hoax and why?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Another Polish Perspective

    It's kinda hard to argue that Stalin targeted specifically Russians. Between 16,500 and 50,000 deaths in this, upon suspicion of spying for Empire of Japan. Poles and Koreans met from opposite directions.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Korean_deportation_in_the_Soviet_Union.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Koreans_in_the_Soviet_Union

    Between 20,000 and 35,000 deaths in this. Significantly for pro-Japanese sentiments

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_repressions_in_Mongolia

    Including the last Mongol queen carrying an unborn child.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genepil

    This is not her, but similar royal costume was inspiration for Natalie Portman's

    https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:4800/format:webp/1*Qgd57z2OW1BIOijt9MndmA.jpeg

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective

  503. @Sher Singh
    @Yevardian

    Join up with us, and none shall have to suffer the company of Endians.

    ਅਕਾਲ

    Replies: @Yevardian

    The Sikhs? You should embrace Nuristani paganism instead. Babis/Bahai had promise but went the way of woke Protestantism a long time ago.

    [MORE]
    Well, you can chuck an throwaway email anyway, forum might not be around much longer. Do you know Persian btw? You can’t say I wasn’t right about Karlin in the end.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Yevardian

    Absent gravity capture by a black hole there may be no such thing as an end to Karlin. Shifty he is.

    https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/Yoda-Retina_2a7ecc26.jpeg

  504. @German_reader
    @AP


    And their kids have much better lives in a much better country.
     
    Recent developments in Poland look rather ominous (e.g. the new minister of family affairs https://civilek.info/en/2023/12/17/tremble-polish-families-here-are-your-new-ministers/ ). The people who predicted Poland would follow the precedents of Spain and Ireland, but faster and even more destructively, may well be proven correct.
    (not that this means Russia's current system is in any way a preferable alternative, it certainly isn't).

    EDIT: https://nitter.cz/worden_van/status/1750868004320186480#m
    Lol.

    Replies: @AP, @LondonBob

    Such things are dictated top down, as recent history of the West shows, so yes I expect Poland is in for difficult times, but there is a possibility that this current lot don’t last more than one term, and then it is question whether the damage will be reversed, or conserved.

    Of course the Russian system is a preferable alternative, the only question is by how much.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @LondonBob


    Of course the Russian system is a preferable alternative
     
    I'll grant that by traditional standards of preserving and advancing national power Putin is vastly more competent than the evil freaks running the West (who are essentially running their countries into the ground). However, what's his system except personalized rule by himself, in cooperation with his buddies from the security services? Far from clear things will remain stable once Putin has passed from the scene.
    And from the pov of most people commenting here, there's also the issue of Central Asian immigration, or potentially of immigration more generally, given Russian appeals to 3rd worldist sentiments.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Coconuts

  505. @QCIC
    @German_reader

    I disagree. This is still a kid gloves war by Russia. Technology has changed since WW2 and the scale of commitment of forces is not remotely the same. This is a proxy war as most Unz readers now recognize.

    I didn't forget Mariupol. I was referring to the largest cities around a million or greater population. Attacking these heavily might lead to an immediate Ukrainian capitulation but also at great cost in civilian lives. Girkin probably knows this and disagrees with the Russian strategy.

    Nothing like this has happened since Vietnam which was a proxy war with huge casualties. In Europe you have the Balkans and Chechen wars on a smaller scale.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Mass conscription wars are likely an anomaly of the twentieth century, despite attempts by the government in Kiev they haven’t managed full mobilisation. Far too many have fled to Russia or the rest of Europe, many others hiding out.

    Destructive power is much greater now, but it has been a choice not to wage war in the manner seen in Mosul, Gaza and Fallujah, but urban warfare is urban warfare and will always lead to widespread destruction, no matter the intentions.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    I think the cynical leadership in many places is still happy to have an excuse to kill off "useless eaters" in 100,000 man lots. Zelensky's handlers seem to be in this group. All of these idiots in power believe in the broken window fallacy so they can rationalize a war along the lines of "...even if we lose it is still a win since there is a fresh start...", or something similarly monstrous.

    For Russia the situation is different. They recognized the West was willing to attack them and now they had an internal justification to reestablish a world-class combat force. They do this by rotating 100,000's of thousands of men through the combat theatre. Since this is largely seen as a just cause this will greatly increase Russian civilian support for the military. It will also seed the entire military with seasoned combat veterans who will not be tolerant of whatever corruption exists within the system.

    I think Russia's battle plan requires answering the question of "How do we pacify and reintegrate Ukraine after the combat phase of the SMO?" I think this next phase will require a lot of armed men whose job is to be supportive and menacing. Considering how polarized and heavily armed Ukraine was in 2022, Russia did not have enough such men at the time.

    Replies: @LondonBob

  506. German_reader says:
    @LondonBob
    @German_reader

    Such things are dictated top down, as recent history of the West shows, so yes I expect Poland is in for difficult times, but there is a possibility that this current lot don't last more than one term, and then it is question whether the damage will be reversed, or conserved.

    Of course the Russian system is a preferable alternative, the only question is by how much.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Of course the Russian system is a preferable alternative

    I’ll grant that by traditional standards of preserving and advancing national power Putin is vastly more competent than the evil freaks running the West (who are essentially running their countries into the ground). However, what’s his system except personalized rule by himself, in cooperation with his buddies from the security services? Far from clear things will remain stable once Putin has passed from the scene.
    And from the pov of most people commenting here, there’s also the issue of Central Asian immigration, or potentially of immigration more generally, given Russian appeals to 3rd worldist sentiments.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    Maybe "preserving and advancing the national cause" is just a cynical cover that's conveniently used to advance individual greed and megalomaniacal hubris? Why would Putler put into battle so many Russian forces (meat waves), knowing full well that a majority of those sent will be stopped dead in their tracks? Also, he must fully understand by now, that the Russian men that will be lost, will need to be filled in the future by non-Russian replacements within society, a further erosion of the Russian ethnos. Stealing family less Ukrainian children (a clear example of genocide) will not be enough to fill the gap.

    Replies: @German_reader

    , @Coconuts
    @German_reader


    However, what’s his system except personalized rule by himself, in cooperation with his buddies from the security services?
     
    The system might be based around having an economy orientated around natural resources. Then the siloviki are needed to protect the resources and the extraction/transit industries, and supervise distribution of the resulting revenues to the population.

    In theory maybe this system could be extended if European countries created manufacturing and production industries based on the resources.

    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.

    Replies: @German_reader

  507. That Kari Lake story deserves greater attention. Pretty obvious the GOP assisted the Democrats in rigging the election for Governor against her, looks like they are less confident they could do so again with a Senate race.

    • Replies: @A123
    @LondonBob


    That Kari Lake story deserves greater attention. Pretty obvious the GOP assisted the Democrats in rigging the election for Governor against her, looks like they are less confident they could do so again with a Senate race.
     
    I agree.

    The Uniparty liked controlling both "sides". The change of the GOP breaks their system. Everyone serious understands that vote rigging is real, and is not just aimed at Trump. Kari Lake was clearly targeted too. However, they can only cheat so much without undermining themselves. So, they attempted bribery: (1)

    The Daily Mail is reporting on a story where Arizona Republican Chairman Jeff DeWit is caught on tape offering a bribe to Kari Lake on behalf of “people back east.”

    https://rumble.com/embed/v468tue/

    The voices “back east” surrounding republican Senate races are not exactly a surprise. Yeah, it’s obviously Mitch McConnell and the multinational corporate benefactors from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce who fund the UniParty construct. Apparently, the conversation was Jeff DeWit, 51, chair of the Arizona Republican Party, asking Kari Lake, a close ally of Donald Trump, to name her price to stay out of politics for two years.
     
    Is anyone surprised that Mitch McConnell is involved? (2)

    Trump is not going to pull Kari Lake out of the race as a VP selection. She is more valuable in the Senate countering McConnell. However, she is among the most talked about potential MAGA 2028 candidates.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/23/audio-recording-of-arizona-republican-chair-jeff-dewit-making-bribe-offer-to-kari-lake-to-stay-out-of-senate-race/

    (2) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/24/michael-patrick-leahy-sources-the-jeff-dewit-message-came-from-the-nrsc-aka-mitch-mcconnell/

    Replies: @Not Raul

    , @Mr. Hack
    @LondonBob

    Why is it "obvious" that the Republican chair that has been exposed as trying to buyoff Kari Lake was doing so in order to help the Democratic party out? Perhaps he just had another candidate in mind for the position within the Republican ranks and Karil Lake was in the way?

    Replies: @AP

  508. @A123
    @John Johnson


    Hitler lamented that Germany had adopted Christianity instead of being conquered by Muslims. What a guy.
     
    Thank you for supporting my point. LEFT Hitler wanted LEFT Islam.

    How would he be a leader of the left when he killed hundreds of thousands of leftists?
     
    Left on Left violence is normal, perhaps inevitable.

    Consider Iran after the Shah. ULTRA LEFT Islamists disposed of the merely somewhat LEFT communists. Ayatollah Khomeini, and his successor Khamenei, define anti-Semitic LEFTOID intolerance.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @John Johnson, @Wokechoke

    Stop being wilfully silly. Hitler was right wing.

    Also, Hitler was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war. Muslims have a list of rules on war derived from Jewish rules in the 613 laws, the last is to destroy Amalek.

    Even though they were clearly superior practitioners of conventional warfare both tactics and operations, over all comers Germans tended to fight clean battles. They were shocked by the piratical stuff like Area Bombing, Dehousing, Terrorism and Blockade the British and Americans developed to overcome the more legally and ethnically sound German successes Germany demonstrated up to the middle of 1942.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Wokechoke

    I kindly refer the gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago #385.

    PEACE 😇

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-240/#comment-6383413

    , @Coconuts
    @Wokechoke

    From the pov of American conservatism some of the social stuff Hitler did would probably count as left-wing.

    But from the pov of other aspects of the Nazi program American conservatism is a form of leftism.

  509. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    I agree with all of this and would only like to add that on top of this Russia should have outright annexed the Donbass and maybe the Crimean Corridor as well back in 2014. Then it would have likely gotten only minor additional sanctions for doing so. In theory, it was not too late to do this even back in February 2022, but the costs for Russia re: Western sanctions could have been higher due to Western policymakers and the Western public being exposed to anti-Russia views for eight years straight by that point in time. Alternatively, a second-best option in February 2022 would have been for Russia to send its troops to the Donbass (which Russia actually did right before the start of the war) and leave it at that, with Russia subsequently de facto integrating the Donbass into Russia but without any formal annexation. This could have made the resulting Western sanctions on Russia somewhat less severe than they would have been with a full annexation, but of course even with a full annexation, the Western sanctions on Russia would have probably been much less than they actually are in real life with a full-on Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    If you “agree”with AP’s comment where his basic premise is for Russia to “do nothing”, why in the world would you promote the idea that back in 2014 you’d find it acceptable (or even preferable) for Russia to have taken the Donbas and the corridor too? If anything, hasn’t this disastrous war shown that it’s always been more than just capturing Donbas, but all of Ukraine too? Or realistically, as much as Russia could get away with stealing?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. Hack

    Conquering the Donbass and the Corridor should have been much easier back in 2014 when Ukraine barely had an army.

    I do want to clarify something, though: The most moral course of action for Russia back in 2014 would have been to do nothing and to simply leave Ukraine completely alone. However, given that Putin's conquest of Crimea significantly boosted his own approval ratings, doing nothing would not have been the best move for Putin personally. So, then it would simply be a case of taking as much as possible without destroying Russia's relations with the West, and the limit for that back in 2014 would probably be Crimea + Donbass + maybe the Crimean Corridor. The main value of the Crimean Corridor for Russia would be to secure Crimea's water supply and to secure a land route to Crimea.

  510. @German_reader
    @LondonBob


    Of course the Russian system is a preferable alternative
     
    I'll grant that by traditional standards of preserving and advancing national power Putin is vastly more competent than the evil freaks running the West (who are essentially running their countries into the ground). However, what's his system except personalized rule by himself, in cooperation with his buddies from the security services? Far from clear things will remain stable once Putin has passed from the scene.
    And from the pov of most people commenting here, there's also the issue of Central Asian immigration, or potentially of immigration more generally, given Russian appeals to 3rd worldist sentiments.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Coconuts

    Maybe “preserving and advancing the national cause” is just a cynical cover that’s conveniently used to advance individual greed and megalomaniacal hubris? Why would Putler put into battle so many Russian forces (meat waves), knowing full well that a majority of those sent will be stopped dead in their tracks? Also, he must fully understand by now, that the Russian men that will be lost, will need to be filled in the future by non-Russian replacements within society, a further erosion of the Russian ethnos. Stealing family less Ukrainian children (a clear example of genocide) will not be enough to fill the gap.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Mr. Hack


    Maybe “preserving and advancing the national cause” is just a cynical cover that’s conveniently used to advance individual greed and megalomaniacal hubris?
     
    No, I don't think so, imo it's clear that Putin genuinely believes he's acting in Russia's best interests and that he had no other choice. Whether that's really the case, is of course another matter, he certainly took quite the reckless gamble with his invasion of Ukraine and presumably didn't reckon with it turning into such a bloody war.
  511. @AP
    @German_reader

    If Poland liberalizes and secularizes, it will not follow Spain or Ireland, but Czechia. Less church, more porn stars, but not a flood of non-Europeans. Not great of course, but also not Ireland or Spain.

    The alternative to Poland going West would have been something like Belarus.

    Correction to the post you replied to: (doing it here because of the 3 post limit):


    Moscow is much further from the Ukrainian border than any European capital is from its country’s borders.
     
    Rome is about 75 km further from the Swiss border than Moscow is from the Ukrainian border. Madrid is only slightly further from the French border than Moscow is from the Ukrainian border, not much further.

    Otherwise - Moscow is a lot further from the Ukrainian border (550 km) than other European national capitals are from other countries. Paris to Germany - 400 km (it's closer to Belgium). London to Calais, France - 177 km. Berlin to the Polish border is only 92 km. Warsaw to Belarus - 210 km. Would Poland be justified in invading Belarus and installing a friendly government, because of how close Belarus is to the Polish capital?

    Replies: @songbird

    If Poland liberalizes and secularizes, it will not follow Spain or Ireland, but Czechia.

    Czechia is too small and landlocked to have much strategic value.

    Poland itself is small (compared to the US) and declining but it could be the seed of a Reconquista, if it acquires a nuclear deterrent, and increases its fertility.

    It will be targeted in a way that Czechia has not been. Probably several intelligence agencies have already been working on the problem for years.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    I don't know if they are still doing it. Twenty years ago the Pentagon had substantial training in the Polish language.

  512. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    Putin isn't a "Jew" unless he was converted, which is very doubtful taking into account his childhood in Soviet Leningrad.

    His mother was a Georgian, or a Russian living in Georgia, his father was an itinerant Russian worker. He was send off by his mother due to her economic and marital hardship.

    I remember reading that DNA testing confirmed her as his mother. She was left in peace whereas people researching around her died, which is another confirmation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Putina

    Well, another Georgian ruling Russia.... Another war...What if he quietly dislikes Russians so he doesn't care about their lives, sending them off to front ? Surely he keeps grudge against his absent father...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    So you must obviously think that the photo of Putler’s birth certificate within China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms’ comment #443 is a fake,? I’d be interested in knowing who you think is behind such an incredible hoax and why?

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    Comment 443 was made by AP.

    There is a photo in the comment 442. I saw this photo many times when someone clamed that Putin is a Jew, and only in such cases.
    It cannot be an original birth certificate since it has a photo of the adult Putin.
    I don't know people who are behind this, ask Sergey Lavrow or Nikolai Patrushev - they are around long enough to know such things.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @AP

  513. @Sean
    @Mr. Hack


    Even if Ukraine were to ever access NATO, I seriously doubt that it would be set-up as a staging point for nuclear weapons aimed at Russia
     
    Agreeing for the sake of argument such was obviously 100 percent true and the man in the Kremlin were to assume the intentions of the West and Ukraine could never change to much more kinetically malevolent ones, then Ukraine left to follow its own destiny would surely have followed the path of Poland and become run as if it was the 51st state of the US: abandoning its traditional values as the Ukrainians including ethic Russian ones became many times richer than the average Russian.

    Such economic development and materialism in Ukraine of all places was intended to be (being touted by pundits in the West as) an effective post post 20015 ideological counter offensive inexorably crushing what what Putin holds most dear: the Russian populace's belief in the way the country is being governed by him and will continue to be when he chooses a successor.

    Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity to its borders today.
     
    Ukraine as an example of what Russia could be if abandoned its own historical destiny ad looked to the west would have been fatal to everything at issue for Putin, and the only chance of possibly preventing such an outcome lay in taking military action. Did he even think he would probably succeed with a coup de main SMO or did he see it as the least bad option given the certainty of his system being eroded by the example of liberal Ukraine if he did nothing?

    Replies: @QCIC

    Sean wrote:

    Did he [Putin/Russia] even think he would probably succeed with a coup de main SMO or did he see it as the least bad option given the certainty of his system being eroded by the example of liberal Ukraine if he did nothing?

    I think this is accurate, but doesn’t go far enough. The “certainty of [the Russian] system being eroded” likely leads to warfare, it is not some sterile process. This erosion would surely be fueled by pressure from the West as was the original fall of the USSR. People tend to look at these Russian issues under a microscope and forget the context which is essential to understanding the Russian moves.

    I think the distinction between Crimea and Donbas is simply priority. Due to the cultural significance (iconography) of Crimea, Russia would have been willing to use nuclear weapons to defend that repatriation in 2015. Some in the West understood this and Crimea was left alone until 2022. This was not true of Donbas at that time. Now that the conflict has widened this may or may not be true for those other regions.

  514. @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    Putin may believe he is a tall handsome stallion of a man and with Tolstoy 'that every nation is unique and worthwhile — none better or worse than others.' But he knows there is no one in Washington who who accepts either proposition. They do not think Russia deserves to be conventional- militarily powerful or possess thermonuclear weapons capability comparable to America's, and gloatingly look forward to various national malaises of Russia (economic and demographic) leading to it collapsing as a truely independent power. Ukraine always interested American strategists as a way to help peacefully help the process of Russian decay along while not alarming the Kremlin. It would have worked with someone like Gorby or Yeltsin, who the beltway seem to have assumed were typical post cold war Russian leaders, but Putin was a counter intel specialist: a professional paranoiac.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer, @Mr. Hack

    I think your analysis is about right for a very high level view. The West is one big bully and so is Russia. They can either fight or have a standoff, but genuine peace is difficult. The Western bully thinks it is stronger than the Russian so it wants to beat him to a pulp and take him out of consideration while this is possible. Prior to 1990 the Russian bully was strong and this was too dangerous. By 2000 the Western bully realized that Russia was reviving and the window of opportunity to achieve domination was closing.

    They are both bullies since they have obscene nuclear arsenals and large conventional military forces. Maybe these assets are justified or maybe not, but having such capabilities suggests a country or empire is a bully. Having an independent third bully in China should make things more interesting.

  515. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    There already is a type of HBD Wikipedia-style blog:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/

    It's a start, don't you think? But it would be nice if it actually had its own Wiki, no doubt.

    Replies: @songbird

    Well, Emil might have the best HBD blog that is still up and has regular posts, but it is not really the same thing as a Wikipedia. Though it has a lot of references, it is not search optimized for the layman, or edited for clarity and concision, or an attempt at an organized core of knowledge.

    It may be that many of the common questions don’t have much research to go on. That the holes in the knowledge discourage such an endeavor. And that it is hard to close them in this political environment.

  516. @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    Mass conscription wars are likely an anomaly of the twentieth century, despite attempts by the government in Kiev they haven't managed full mobilisation. Far too many have fled to Russia or the rest of Europe, many others hiding out.

    Destructive power is much greater now, but it has been a choice not to wage war in the manner seen in Mosul, Gaza and Fallujah, but urban warfare is urban warfare and will always lead to widespread destruction, no matter the intentions.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the cynical leadership in many places is still happy to have an excuse to kill off “useless eaters” in 100,000 man lots. Zelensky’s handlers seem to be in this group. All of these idiots in power believe in the broken window fallacy so they can rationalize a war along the lines of “…even if we lose it is still a win since there is a fresh start…”, or something similarly monstrous.

    For Russia the situation is different. They recognized the West was willing to attack them and now they had an internal justification to reestablish a world-class combat force. They do this by rotating 100,000’s of thousands of men through the combat theatre. Since this is largely seen as a just cause this will greatly increase Russian civilian support for the military. It will also seed the entire military with seasoned combat veterans who will not be tolerant of whatever corruption exists within the system.

    I think Russia’s battle plan requires answering the question of “How do we pacify and reintegrate Ukraine after the combat phase of the SMO?” I think this next phase will require a lot of armed men whose job is to be supportive and menacing. Considering how polarized and heavily armed Ukraine was in 2022, Russia did not have enough such men at the time.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    Unless the Ukrainian forces collapse, which looks an increasingly likely prospect, it will be difficult to take any major city without widespread destruction,. I suspect Kherson rather than Bakhmut will be the case for Odessa etc.

    Replies: @QCIC

  517. @LondonBob
    That Kari Lake story deserves greater attention. Pretty obvious the GOP assisted the Democrats in rigging the election for Governor against her, looks like they are less confident they could do so again with a Senate race.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. Hack

    That Kari Lake story deserves greater attention. Pretty obvious the GOP assisted the Democrats in rigging the election for Governor against her, looks like they are less confident they could do so again with a Senate race.

    I agree.

    The Uniparty liked controlling both “sides”. The change of the GOP breaks their system. Everyone serious understands that vote rigging is real, and is not just aimed at Trump. Kari Lake was clearly targeted too. However, they can only cheat so much without undermining themselves. So, they attempted bribery: (1)

    The Daily Mail is reporting on a story where Arizona Republican Chairman Jeff DeWit is caught on tape offering a bribe to Kari Lake on behalf of “people back east.”



    Video Link

    The voices “back east” surrounding republican Senate races are not exactly a surprise. Yeah, it’s obviously Mitch McConnell and the multinational corporate benefactors from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce who fund the UniParty construct. Apparently, the conversation was Jeff DeWit, 51, chair of the Arizona Republican Party, asking Kari Lake, a close ally of Donald Trump, to name her price to stay out of politics for two years.

    Is anyone surprised that Mitch McConnell is involved? (2)

    Trump is not going to pull Kari Lake out of the race as a VP selection. She is more valuable in the Senate countering McConnell. However, she is among the most talked about potential MAGA 2028 candidates.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/23/audio-recording-of-arizona-republican-chair-jeff-dewit-making-bribe-offer-to-kari-lake-to-stay-out-of-senate-race/

    (2) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/24/michael-patrick-leahy-sources-the-jeff-dewit-message-came-from-the-nrsc-aka-mitch-mcconnell/

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @A123

    Are you sure it was Mitch McConnell?

    I was very curious about who they were talking about. She seemed to know what he meant.

    Replies: @A123

  518. @Wokechoke
    @A123

    Stop being wilfully silly. Hitler was right wing.

    Also, Hitler was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war. Muslims have a list of rules on war derived from Jewish rules in the 613 laws, the last is to destroy Amalek.


    Even though they were clearly superior practitioners of conventional warfare both tactics and operations, over all comers Germans tended to fight clean battles. They were shocked by the piratical stuff like Area Bombing, Dehousing, Terrorism and Blockade the British and Americans developed to overcome the more legally and ethnically sound German successes Germany demonstrated up to the middle of 1942.

    Replies: @A123, @Coconuts

    I kindly refer the gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago #385.

    PEACE 😇

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-240/#comment-6383413

  519. @Mr. Hack
    @Another Polish Perspective

    So you must obviously think that the photo of Putler's birth certificate within China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms' comment #443 is a fake,? I'd be interested in knowing who you think is behind such an incredible hoax and why?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Comment 443 was made by AP.

    There is a photo in the comment 442. I saw this photo many times when someone clamed that Putin is a Jew, and only in such cases.
    It cannot be an original birth certificate since it has a photo of the adult Putin.
    I don’t know people who are behind this, ask Sergey Lavrow or Nikolai Patrushev – they are around long enough to know such things.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Knowing how Russia functions, without powerful supporter Viera Putina would be disappeared long time ago. Since she has never been used for anything, it follows from the entire story that her powerful supporter was Putin himself.

    , @AP
    @Another Polish Perspective


    There is a photo in the comment 442. I saw this photo many times when someone clamed that Putin is a Jew, and only in such cases.
    It cannot be an original birth certificate since it has a photo of the adult Putin.
     
    It's not a birth certificate but a passport document - it says so on the left.

    If Putin's mother were Georgian, he would probably look very different (unless, perhaps, his mother was half-Georgian but listed as Georgian). But his mother could have been an Ashkenazi Jewish lady.

    I have no idea if that passport is real.
  520. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    Comment 443 was made by AP.

    There is a photo in the comment 442. I saw this photo many times when someone clamed that Putin is a Jew, and only in such cases.
    It cannot be an original birth certificate since it has a photo of the adult Putin.
    I don't know people who are behind this, ask Sergey Lavrow or Nikolai Patrushev - they are around long enough to know such things.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @AP

    Knowing how Russia functions, without powerful supporter Viera Putina would be disappeared long time ago. Since she has never been used for anything, it follows from the entire story that her powerful supporter was Putin himself.

  521. @Yevardian
    @Sher Singh

    The Sikhs? You should embrace Nuristani paganism instead. Babis/Bahai had promise but went the way of woke Protestantism a long time ago. Well, you can chuck an throwaway email anyway, forum might not be around much longer. Do you know Persian btw? You can't say I wasn't right about Karlin in the end.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Absent gravity capture by a black hole there may be no such thing as an end to Karlin. Shifty he is.

  522. @songbird
    @AP


    If Poland liberalizes and secularizes, it will not follow Spain or Ireland, but Czechia.
     
    Czechia is too small and landlocked to have much strategic value.

    Poland itself is small (compared to the US) and declining but it could be the seed of a Reconquista, if it acquires a nuclear deterrent, and increases its fertility.

    It will be targeted in a way that Czechia has not been. Probably several intelligence agencies have already been working on the problem for years.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I don’t know if they are still doing it. Twenty years ago the Pentagon had substantial training in the Polish language.

    • Thanks: songbird
  523. @Mikel
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for those very convincing arguments but you should vote for Boris Nadezhdin in the upcoming elections and help make Russia great again. So should AnonfromTN.

    This has all been a sad misunderstanding. We never needed Ukraine in NATO at all. That doesn't increase our security in any way. What we really need in NATO for our own security is Russia. If we left behind that stupid and anachronistic enmity we could finally start reducing those huge nuclear arsenals to non-civilization destructing levels and we could together use what remains of them to confront an alien invasion, or the yellow peril (if they ever think of going further than filling our stores with crappy products), or something like that. But we now need someone like Nadezhdin in the Kremlin. Putin tried a quick tour de force in Ukraine to send a strong message to the West but it didn't quite work as intended. Nadezhdin's plans of applying Russia's constitution to the letter and restoring normal relations with the West are what's best for everybody at this point in time.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    That Nadezhdin has made a positive impact on yourself indicates:

    1. He’s sane ( a very rare thing for a liberast who often appear frenetically psychopathic, narcissistic, slimeballs )
    2. He’s genuinely consistent in liberast principles (again, extremely rare for liberasts who will criticise every economy, social or whatever policy of the authorities, even it aligns with their (claimed) political principles)
    3. He’s maybe likeble and does not appear completely repulsive ( so that makes him very different to most of the liberasts like Navalny,Volkov, Yashin older ones and previous era like Venediktov and Novodvorskaya…….and even the attractive women on the liberast side all appear to have repulsive personality characteristics )

    However, he is still just a filthy liberast, so his chances of being elected are none. Stuff of his that is principled and passionately argued like when we did the changes to the Constitution… doesn’t change the problem that its totally nauseating to most Russians. So as an example, 3 years before when there is referendum on changes to the Russian Constitution he goes into a massive monolog about how great the American constitution is and how he wants Russians to be able to recite each sentence of our constitution like the Americans can with their “inspiring” one and then he talks more on that theme. I can respect and maybe understand why people like that can have this opinion……..but to me it’s just nauseating American c*ck-sucking.

    Nadezhdin’s plans of applying Russia’s constitution to the letter and restoring normal relations with the West are what’s best for everybody at this point in time.

    Many other things also, but the fact Nord Stream 2 was stopped before the SMO, forcing of us to stop bilateral relation with 404 but at same time to transit gas through them and so help fund the budget of their military……. and the zero intention shown to make them act on the Minsk Agreements indicate that this is not an issue of “reaching an agreement”, its intentional, filthy , evil actions by the west against Russia that make the “Opium Wars” against China look angelic by comparison.
    A Cuba left in difficult position after the Soviets effectively left it following the Missile issue in 1962, or a North Korea decay after not wanting to involve itself in USSR-China dispute (and their own poor decisions)………that is the only option for agreement with the west on 404. That’s the fate this hole deserves (well, not quite, Cuba considerably richer than 404!)

  524. @LondonBob
    That Kari Lake story deserves greater attention. Pretty obvious the GOP assisted the Democrats in rigging the election for Governor against her, looks like they are less confident they could do so again with a Senate race.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. Hack

    Why is it “obvious” that the Republican chair that has been exposed as trying to buyoff Kari Lake was doing so in order to help the Democratic party out? Perhaps he just had another candidate in mind for the position within the Republican ranks and Karil Lake was in the way?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    If Kari Lake polls worse than other Republicans (don't know her particular case, but it often is so with pro-Russian MAGAs) so if anything he may have been thwarting the Democrats.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

  525. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    Comment 443 was made by AP.

    There is a photo in the comment 442. I saw this photo many times when someone clamed that Putin is a Jew, and only in such cases.
    It cannot be an original birth certificate since it has a photo of the adult Putin.
    I don't know people who are behind this, ask Sergey Lavrow or Nikolai Patrushev - they are around long enough to know such things.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @AP

    There is a photo in the comment 442. I saw this photo many times when someone clamed that Putin is a Jew, and only in such cases.
    It cannot be an original birth certificate since it has a photo of the adult Putin.

    It’s not a birth certificate but a passport document – it says so on the left.

    If Putin’s mother were Georgian, he would probably look very different (unless, perhaps, his mother was half-Georgian but listed as Georgian). But his mother could have been an Ashkenazi Jewish lady.

    I have no idea if that passport is real.

  526. German_reader says:
    @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    Maybe "preserving and advancing the national cause" is just a cynical cover that's conveniently used to advance individual greed and megalomaniacal hubris? Why would Putler put into battle so many Russian forces (meat waves), knowing full well that a majority of those sent will be stopped dead in their tracks? Also, he must fully understand by now, that the Russian men that will be lost, will need to be filled in the future by non-Russian replacements within society, a further erosion of the Russian ethnos. Stealing family less Ukrainian children (a clear example of genocide) will not be enough to fill the gap.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Maybe “preserving and advancing the national cause” is just a cynical cover that’s conveniently used to advance individual greed and megalomaniacal hubris?

    No, I don’t think so, imo it’s clear that Putin genuinely believes he’s acting in Russia’s best interests and that he had no other choice. Whether that’s really the case, is of course another matter, he certainly took quite the reckless gamble with his invasion of Ukraine and presumably didn’t reckon with it turning into such a bloody war.

  527. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Derer

    The video shows a copy of his documents where his mother is ID'ed as Jew Еврей

    https://i.postimg.cc/wjfbfz0J/Sukuri-nshotto-1.png

    There's something his one-time patron being Jew oligarch Berezovsky. There's also a Georgian woman saying at the end that she's his real mother.

    At the end it'd kind of immaterial just like Lenin's Jewish ancestry. He as tsar can identify as whatever that suits him. That's what the video is about.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Gerard1234

    You sound too smart to be deceived by this ultra retarded fake. What is wrong with you?

    1. Absolutely ZERO document exists in Russian/Soviet bureaucracy saying “R.S.F.S.R”, its all RSFSR, USSR i.e without the dot. That prove to me it’s some anglo-American or some Banderite or Polish diaspora f**kup completely ignorant of basic Soviet things making an obvious error

    2. Where is the mythical city of “Leningra” – typing mistake without the D at the end, but unlikely, more just further proving of the incompetence of western fakers

    3. The writing at the side and the mention of him reaching 45 indicates this is a Russian Federation (not USSR document) so there is no reason for Leningrad to even be mentioned ( though I suppose maybe workers at FMS may have allowed this type of thing).

    4. Jew (yevreika) should have a capital letter – individually a minor thing, but with the other typing errors, it just confirms all of it is some idiotic farce

    5. Shelomov is 100% Slavic/Russian name. Rules for this followed not just self-identification ( as they could if somebody claiming Ukrop or Russian) ……but on strict Jewish hereditary rule on only classifying if the mother was Jewish. Can’t be bothered because I know this thing is fake, but would be sure that Putins mother’s mother has not found to be listed as Jewish.

    6. From my experience Leningrad ,the city, was always separate in administration documents from Leningrad Oblast ( must like now with Moscow and Moscow Oblast and SP with Leningrad Oblast)

    7. The photo

    8. Can’t be sure of date from that photo – but at this time he is either head of FSB or PM

    There’s something his one-time patron being Jew oligarch Berezovsky.

    And then his one-time enemy who he (correctly) tried to have jailed. VVP isn’t antisemitic, which is a good thing. He has jailed and tried to jail 3 criminal Jewish oligarchs in Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and Gusinsky……which is great

    There’s also a Georgian woman saying at the end that she’s his real mother.

    That’s of course also amusing nonsense

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Gerard1234

    Putina's maiden name is Shelomova, or "Solomon", no? I don't have a view on this.


    He has jailed and tried to jail 3 criminal Jewish oligarchs in Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and Gusinsky……which is great
     
    That channel is strongly pro-Putin and says that.

    The context is that a lot Chinese viewed Putin as a trad Orthodox tsar, and were cheering on SMO as sticking it to Jew USA and Jew Zelensky.

    He's saying that's neither-here-nor-there, since Putin himself might be part Jewish, and as others pointed out some in his close circle are.

  528. Vera and Vova

    His purported mother, identified as a”Georgian” looks to me like she could pass as a Russian. It’s an old story, interestingly enough, with many people looking into it mysteriously dying in plane crashes etc, reminiscent of the Clinton murders.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12149357/Woman-claimed-Vladimir-Putins-secret-MOTHER-dies-aged-97.html

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Putina

    When you read both the Telegraph article and Wikipedia and put it all together, it all sounds quite possible.

  529. Should like some Indian to develop a recurring comedic bit on YouTube, where they do man-on-the-street interviews regarding different topics, and receive strangely caste-specific answers, which either repeat directly or thematically, everytime someone of the same caste is asked.

    As a starting topic, I recommend asking “what is your favorite anime?”. And having all the Sikhs answer Fist of the North Star, followed by violent clips.

    [MORE]

  530. @Mr. Hack
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/01/20/71668299-12149357-image-a-13_1685648400591.jpg
    Vera and Vova

    His purported mother, identified as a"Georgian" looks to me like she could pass as a Russian. It's an old story, interestingly enough, with many people looking into it mysteriously dying in plane crashes etc, reminiscent of the Clinton murders.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12149357/Woman-claimed-Vladimir-Putins-secret-MOTHER-dies-aged-97.html

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Putina

    When you read both the Telegraph article and Wikipedia and put it all together, it all sounds quite possible.

  531. @Mr. Hack
    @LondonBob

    Why is it "obvious" that the Republican chair that has been exposed as trying to buyoff Kari Lake was doing so in order to help the Democratic party out? Perhaps he just had another candidate in mind for the position within the Republican ranks and Karil Lake was in the way?

    Replies: @AP

    If Kari Lake polls worse than other Republicans (don’t know her particular case, but it often is so with pro-Russian MAGAs) so if anything he may have been thwarting the Democrats.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    Certainly a possibility, we'll just have to see how this story unravels, as it just recently appeared...

    , @A123
    @AP


    If Kari Lake polls worse than other Republicans (don’t know her particular case, but it often is so with pro-Russian MAGAs) so if anything he may have been thwarting the Democrats.
     
    Kari Lake polls very well, as is often the case with MAGA candidates against Forever Wars. And, she will go up farther in the wake of the bribery revelation. The incumbent Sinema left the Democrat party and will be running as an independent. Kari Lake's chance of victory is high.

    Establishment RINO's and NeoConDemocrats are the same team. Creatures like Mitch McConnell prefers Dems to MAGA. Kari Lake is a personal threat to his ability to become Majority Leader, which is why he tried to have her bribed out of the Senate race.

    To stop her run for Governor, the dirty tricks squad used every effort to suppress the vote. For example, ballot printers were deliberately set to output the wrong size so they could not be machine tallied and then many went missing without being hand counted. Fortunately, with so much scrutiny on the process in 2024, the RINO/DNC ability to commit vote fraud will be much more limited this cycle.
    ____

    As you mentioned polling. Check out the latest (1). Trump is +4.3% over the White House occupant, while Haley is only +1.1%. Nikki's warmongering does not appear to be attracting many voters.

    Drilling down on the 7 Battleground States (Arizona | Nevada | Wisconsin | Michigan | Pennsylvania | North Carolina | Georgia), Trump is:

    Ahead -- 5 -- North Carolina +9.0%, and the others +4.5-6.0%
    Tied -- 1 -- Wisconsin
    Behind -- 1 -- Pennsylvania -0.6%

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  532. Guess the credit for this may go to Mike Johnson as well, who always publicly demanded a new clearly written strategy for action in UA, however doubt he’ll will like below given proposals that much;)

    According to U.S. officials, the American document will guarantee support for short-term military operations as well as build a future Ukrainian military force that can deter Russian aggression. It will include specific promises and programs to help protect, reconstitute and expand Ukraine’s industrial and export base, and assist the country with political reforms needed for full integration into Western institutions.

    Not incidentally, a U.S. official said, the hope is that the long-term promise — again assuming congressional buy-in — will also “future-proof” aid for Ukraine against the possibility that former president Donald Trump wins his reelection bid.

    As the White House continues to try to persuade lawmakers, a second senior administration official emphasized that the strategy doesn’t mean that the Ukrainians are just going to build their own defensive trenches “and sit behind them” all year. “There is still going to be swapping of territory” in small cities and villages with minimal strategic value, “missile launches and drones” from both sides, and Russian “attacks on civilian infrastructure,” this official said.
    …………………..
    The U.S. document, according to U.S. officials closely involved in the planning, is being written with four phases in mind: fight, build, recover and reform.

    What is needed most immediately for the “fight” phase is “artillery ammunition, some replacement of vehicles” lost in the counteroffensive, “a lot more drones,” said Eric Ciaramella, a former CIA intelligence analyst and now a senior fellow in the Russia and Eurasia program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, who has consulted with administration officials. “A lot of electronic warfare and counter-drone technology — where the Russians have achieved an edge. They need more air defense systems to cover more cities.”

    Although Ukraine is still anxiously awaiting the promised delivery of fighter aircraft and more armored vehicles this year, these are “expensive systems with single points of failure,” Ciaramella said. “I think the Ukrainians are realizing there is no silver bullet, having seen a million-dollar tank destroyed by a $10,000 mine” during the counteroffensive.

    The “build” phase of the strategy is focused on pledges for Ukraine’s future security force on land, sea and air, so that the Ukrainians “can see what they’re getting from the global community over a 10-year period and … come out of 2024 with a road map to a highly deterrent military,” the first senior administration official said. At the same time, some of the requested supplemental money is targeted at developing Ukraine’s industrial base for weapons production that, along with U.S. and allied increases, can “at least keep pace with Russian” production.

    The plan also includes additional air defense to create protective “bubbles” around Ukrainian cities beyond Kyiv and Odessa and to allow key parts of the Ukrainian economy and exports, including steel and agriculture, to recover. Biden last fall named former commerce secretary Penny Pritzker as U.S. envoy to lead an effort to rebuild Ukraine’s economy and mobilize public and private investment.

    Enticing foreign investment back into Ukraine will also require additional efforts to stem corruption, U.S. officials acknowledge. Zelensky has taken some steps, including firing and in some cases arresting allegedly corrupt military procurement officials and judges; other initiatives have been demanded by the European Union as it considers eventual E.U. membership for Ukraine.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/26/ukraine-war-plan-biden-defense/

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death

    Credit to Mike Johnson for keeping his eye on the ball: (1)


    House Speaker Mike Johnson has dispelled President Joe Biden's absolute lie that Congress needs to act to pass a $110 billion aid package which would include money for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan - a bill, mind you, that would still allow as many as 150,000 illegal crossings per month, or 1.8 million per year, before any of the proposed border shutdown authorities would be triggered.

    "President Biden falsely claimed yesterday he needs Congress to pass a new law to allow him to close the southern border, but he knows that is untrue," said Johnson.

    "As I explained to him in a letter late last year, and have specifically reiterated to him on multiple occasions since, he can and must take executive action immediately to reverse the catastrophe he has created."
    ...
    David Sacks breaks things down perfectly (via X):

    WHAT’S REALLY HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON

    Neocons had a problem. The big Spring-Summer Counteroffensive, which was supposed to kick the Russians out of Ukraine, was a miserable failure. Even TIME Magazine was reporting that Zelensky is delusional, the Ukrainians are running out of soldiers, and Ukrainian officials are stealing like there’s no tomorrow.

    House Republicans, fearing their base, began to have cold feet about throwing more money down this bottomless pit. So Biden and the Neocons came up with a plan: package Ukraine aid with border security. Each side would get want it wants.

    But Senate RINOs couldn’t help themselves — they turned the border security provisions into an amnesty bill.

    Meanwhile Biden picked a fight with Texas over what little remains of our border security, reminding Republicans that he can’t be trusted to faithfully execute the law. So now the deal has fallen apart.

    So what is the Administration to do? There’s only ever one answer for that: blame Trump. Supposedly he is responsible for Ukraine losing the war AND the southern border being overrun. In reality, Biden and his handlers have nobody to blame but themselves for both policies.

    Shakespeare put it best: “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves.”
     

     
    The Veggie-In-Chief's "Ukraine Plan" is laughably unworkable. It has no chance of passing, even as part of a deal with other topics.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/lyin-biden-speaker-johnson-debunks-need-pass-ukraine-israel-funds-securing-border
  533. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234


    DOCTOR Mugabe
     
    Honorary degrees don't count.
    Unless you want to imply he was a certified witch doctor, which might of course be quite plausible for such a vile man.

    Replies: @songbird, @Gerard1234

    Honorary degrees don’t count.
    Unless you want to imply he was a certified witch doctor, which might of course be quite plausible for such a vile man.

    That just sounds racist to the great Doctor . He was a Catholic . I think he went to Oxford or Cambridge Universities like Gandhi. I am not here to defend him…..just to say he is a million times better than the lowlife western politicians making decisions against Russia.

    More importantly…..there is NOTHING to say he was morally or intellectually inferior to European/Western scum like Sholtz , Macron, Biden, Trump, Hunter, Sikorski-homo, Estonian-bitch etc. Would need to read his biography to know fully …..but he was in jail for purely political reasons, I think either his wife or daughter was killed by the previous regime, for democracy- pure democracy would result in all the Africans seizing white-owned farms and property immediately after Mugabe becoming elected – he waited 20 years to start doing this, and even then only partially. He renamed Salisbury to Harare……..but didn’t do retarded things like name Victoria Falls into Bandera Falls or Boris Nemtsov Falls. He allowed his main enemy, who he fought war against, to live peacefully in the country. That still places him as more sophisticated then most of the west politicians.

    On inter-african tribal conflict in Zimbabwe……..maybe you know, but I am zero knowledge position to comment on it.

    • Agree: Yevardian
    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Gerard1234


    On inter-african tribal conflict in Zimbabwe
     
    There were some massacres in the 1980s:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gukurahundi

    Probably relatively minor by the standards of post-independence Africa. There were worse African rulers than Mugabe, some of them backed by the West. But the economic consequences of his misrule were quite disastrous.
    I don't agree with credentialism anyway, always suspect to me when people insist on mentioning their academic titles.
    , @Yevardian
    @Gerard1234

    Not a fan of DOCTOR Mugabe myself, but Gerard is right it took a while for Mugabe to go full apefrican, by the standards of the region his early years of rule were comparatively mild (low bar, of course). Only read one book on Rhodesia-Zimbabwe nearly a decade ago, but I recall the initial* land-thefts of white farmers were done not so much on Mugabe's own initiative, but rather other, more rabid, ZANU members he came up with eventually forced his hand. There are prominent figures out now like Julius Malema that make DOCTOR Zimbabwe look like the ideal of sanity and moderation. And frankly Gerard's point about Western politicians also rings true, can't imagine a single one of them risking their pitable hides in any armed struggle whatsoever. Look at the Zelensky-worship for doing the absolute bare minimum, just for not fleeing the Ukraine permanently after the first hint of a full Russian invasion.

    Nonetheless fact remains the country eventually was completely destroyed economically under his rule. But I think the real villain of the story remains the British government for betraying their own so badly, and not even for any benefit to themselves, just pure spite and virtue-signaling.

    Replies: @German_reader, @AnonfromTN

  534. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    If Kari Lake polls worse than other Republicans (don't know her particular case, but it often is so with pro-Russian MAGAs) so if anything he may have been thwarting the Democrats.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    Certainly a possibility, we’ll just have to see how this story unravels, as it just recently appeared…

  535. @Wokechoke
    @A123

    Stop being wilfully silly. Hitler was right wing.

    Also, Hitler was lamenting that his soldiers had a conscience about war. Muslims have a list of rules on war derived from Jewish rules in the 613 laws, the last is to destroy Amalek.


    Even though they were clearly superior practitioners of conventional warfare both tactics and operations, over all comers Germans tended to fight clean battles. They were shocked by the piratical stuff like Area Bombing, Dehousing, Terrorism and Blockade the British and Americans developed to overcome the more legally and ethnically sound German successes Germany demonstrated up to the middle of 1942.

    Replies: @A123, @Coconuts

    From the pov of American conservatism some of the social stuff Hitler did would probably count as left-wing.

    But from the pov of other aspects of the Nazi program American conservatism is a form of leftism.

  536. @AP
    @Beckow


    True, but Russia is also not using its full might. Ukraine is the only fully engaged player
     
    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.

    How was Russia supposed to react? I am still waiting for a rational and doable alternative to this war once NATO moved its expansion to Ukraine and Kiev enthusiastically signed up for it
     
    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    For a bimbo as yourself to be commenting on anything military related is in addition to being comedic and an insult to everyones intelligence , is severely f**ked up. Its as bad as a fantasist scumbag as yourself talking about places you have never been to like Europe, Russia or Ukraine…..or on medical issues…….or bizarrely, even on BASIC issues about European Royal Familys which is inexplicable that a fantasist retard as yourself, claiming to be directly affected by 12th century events and devoting millions of posts to it…….would not know!!

    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    LMFAO, NATO is spending massively more amounts of money on this than Russian you dumb bag of sh*t, not even close. Russia is fighting a defacto NATO military. This NATO army is 1.3 million in size ( OK includes police and Border Force on western border etc, but every indication that is a “topped up” number) – trained by NATO, armed by NATO, given masses of NATO weapons and Soviet weapons modified to be used with NATO systems, dictated to by NATO officers orders on the battlefield and at HQ, carrying out operations planned 100% in NATO headquarters ( at micro and macro level), given access to realtime intelligence from NATO’s trillion dollar intelligence network and equipment so to enact singular and co-ordinated action on the battlefield immediately and for diversionary actions……and having their women who are literal NATO prostitutes service every desire of NATO mercs/sex tourists perversions that they wish. Owned, administered, ordered ….even clothed by NATO you retarded cretin.

    So Russia is fighting at a big numerical disadvantage and a big financial disadvantage in what they have committed to the SMO. Official NATO military is over 3 million, of which much could never be committed to fight on one front against Russia anyway and it’s highly debatable which of the Asian and European NATO countries would actually fight in coalition against Russia – so it’s a huge embarrassment to them and p*ssing in their bed stuff, what Russia have done and are doing to their 1.3 million army you useless POS. This is a big section of NATO and NATO minds and capabilities being destroyed.

    And its embarassment to them what Russia have done using a fraction in number and capabilities of our men, airpower, tanks etc.etc. All those billions of dollars in planning, and it immediately proven in a few days over February/March in 2022 that Russia could take all the Baltics with a very small force if wanted to, judging by the NATO disaster for 404. Russia forces and equipment, crucially, are not close to being depleted for any official NATO war against these extra equipment/technologies/3 million personnel, however unwanted this war would be.

    As I say, you are in zero position to say what either sides “might” is you POS . Pointless to talk about non-use of ICBM’s when talking about “full might” you idiot. SMO is fought at maximum intensity……..at stage of combat NATO and Russia are willing to commit to. Thousands of NATO employees are working 24/7 using huge resources to try and defeat Russia with what is defacto a large part of their military at 1.3 million. NATO don’t want trillions of dollars of F-35’s “parked”, nose down in some field in Ukraine, Russia doesn’t want to use numerous things at this stage either.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.

    ROFL, just to completely emphasise what a clueless bimbo you are, not even aware of what terms as “mobilised” actually mean when talking about it. Embarrassing – though I suppose as you have no personal connection to anybody actually fighting in the SMO you can make these inane, stupid comments.

    1.3 million – but none of us can be sure what the population of Ukraine is you dumb prick. 10 million between Russia (says much) and the west fled from Ukraine. Officially (LOL) That’s 28 million left , real number is probably 15 million at what could now be 60+/40 proportion of male to female.
    Great Patriotic War reached 6% mobilisation rate . 5% for Nazi Germany. Here there is an enlarged military personnel because 404 has zero military-industrial capacity and the west provides all that for them, so 404 can provide more cannon fodder in combat……..however this is still a fairly localised war not fought at same level of intensity or scale as GPW, so that is full mobilisation numbers we are seeing here you idiot. 5% already for “official” population number. 7% for unoffical.

    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.

    With all the other stupid nonsense of yourself…..too stupid to dignify with a response.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234


    So Russia is fighting at a big numerical disadvantage and a big financial disadvantage in what they have committed to the SMO
     
    Well, if this is true, then Russia needs to:

    1) Ante up and support its troops, OR:

    2) Get the f_ck out of Ukraine ASAP.
    .
    Otherwise its going to get decimated even worse than what its already experienced. There's really not a viable third option for Russia or else its going to eventually implode on itself. I'd suggest that it retreat back to its own borders, as it did ultimately in Afghanistan. You don't honestly feel that Russia's chances of "success' in Ukraine are better than what it faced in Afghanistan?

    Replies: @Derer

    , @AP
    @Gerard1234


    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    LMFAO, NATO is spending massively more amounts of money on this
     
    As a percentage of its total economy, NATO is devoting a tiny fraction to this war compared to what Russia is. Russia's budget is heavily skewed in favor of military spending at the expense of civilian needs - NAT coujntries don't even notice what they are spending on this war.

    Of course, as a Sovok "engineer" math is very hard for you, so this is too complex for you to understand.

    Official NATO military is over 3 million, of which much could never be committed to fight on one front against Russia anyway and it’s highly debatable which of the Asian and European NATO countries would actually fight in coalition against Russia
     
    Fortunately for NATO they don't need to. Ukrainians supplied with NATO weapons hold Russia to 8% of Ukrainian territory that Russia took in 2022. If Ukraine were given more and better NATO weapons the Russians would hold even less.

    I suppose as you have no personal connection to anybody actually fighting in the SMO
     
    Congratulations, you finally managed to say something correct.

    All of my personal connections in Russia are in Moscow, and they are well off people. Not a single one of them, nor any of their loved ones, are getting their guts blown out in some Kherson field. That is the fate of "losers" from small towns and cities in the provinces, convicts, Buryats, Dagestanis, etc. Muscovites meanwhile live well in one of the world's greatest cities while those poor suckers die horrible deaths on a large scale. I think that is tragic and horrible (that the losers are getting killed, not that Muscovites are safe - I am happy for Muscovites). You apparently do not. Well, you are safe in your English sh*hole, what do you care? Hopefully you keep the floors nice and clean for the English.

    My personal connections in Ukraine aren't fighting either. One of them owns a construction business and is a skilled electrician; he and his team help repair stuff that Russians destroy, so he isn't needed at the front as a soldier. The others are just working. Most Ukrainians are not fighting, after all. It is certainly a major war but not a total war, or something like World War II. The Ukrainian SSR had 33.5 million people 1939, and about 6 million served in the Soviet forces. Ukraine (population 31 million or so in 2021?) has under a million troops.

    Great Patriotic War reached 6% mobilisation rate
     
    I wouldn't try to use numbers if I were you, "engineer"-monkey. You aren't very good with them.

    talking about places you have never been to like Europe, Russia or Ukraine
     
    You like to repeat this lie so once again I point out that our former host mentioned our brief meeting in Moscow:



    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-40/

    https://i.imgur.com/aCRBRFv.png

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  537. @German_reader
    @LondonBob


    Of course the Russian system is a preferable alternative
     
    I'll grant that by traditional standards of preserving and advancing national power Putin is vastly more competent than the evil freaks running the West (who are essentially running their countries into the ground). However, what's his system except personalized rule by himself, in cooperation with his buddies from the security services? Far from clear things will remain stable once Putin has passed from the scene.
    And from the pov of most people commenting here, there's also the issue of Central Asian immigration, or potentially of immigration more generally, given Russian appeals to 3rd worldist sentiments.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Coconuts

    However, what’s his system except personalized rule by himself, in cooperation with his buddies from the security services?

    The system might be based around having an economy orientated around natural resources. Then the siloviki are needed to protect the resources and the extraction/transit industries, and supervise distribution of the resulting revenues to the population.

    In theory maybe this system could be extended if European countries created manufacturing and production industries based on the resources.

    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Coconuts


    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.
     
    Given Putin's late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s. Weren't ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this? I suppose someone like Putin who seems somewhat fixated on geopolitical great power competition to the exclusion of everything else might just not care about such demographic changes and their potential consequences. More people might just equal more power for him.
    I'm not sure though Karlin's "Putin is such a boomer, he doesn't even use the internet" was quite the devastating criticism Karlin thought it to be. In the West one can sometimes get the impression that a growing part of the "elites" get their picture of reality from social media and the like (honestly find it shocking what kind of insight you can sometimes get on Twitter in the thought processes and behaviour of journalists and politicians, the kind of people who shape public discourse and make political decisions). That's hardly optimal either.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yevardian, @Beckow, @Coconuts

  538. @Gerard1234
    @AP

    For a bimbo as yourself to be commenting on anything military related is in addition to being comedic and an insult to everyones intelligence , is severely f**ked up. Its as bad as a fantasist scumbag as yourself talking about places you have never been to like Europe, Russia or Ukraine.....or on medical issues.......or bizarrely, even on BASIC issues about European Royal Familys which is inexplicable that a fantasist retard as yourself, claiming to be directly affected by 12th century events and devoting millions of posts to it.......would not know!!


    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.
     
    LMFAO, NATO is spending massively more amounts of money on this than Russian you dumb bag of sh*t, not even close. Russia is fighting a defacto NATO military. This NATO army is 1.3 million in size ( OK includes police and Border Force on western border etc, but every indication that is a "topped up" number) - trained by NATO, armed by NATO, given masses of NATO weapons and Soviet weapons modified to be used with NATO systems, dictated to by NATO officers orders on the battlefield and at HQ, carrying out operations planned 100% in NATO headquarters ( at micro and macro level), given access to realtime intelligence from NATO's trillion dollar intelligence network and equipment so to enact singular and co-ordinated action on the battlefield immediately and for diversionary actions......and having their women who are literal NATO prostitutes service every desire of NATO mercs/sex tourists perversions that they wish. Owned, administered, ordered ....even clothed by NATO you retarded cretin.

    So Russia is fighting at a big numerical disadvantage and a big financial disadvantage in what they have committed to the SMO. Official NATO military is over 3 million, of which much could never be committed to fight on one front against Russia anyway and it's highly debatable which of the Asian and European NATO countries would actually fight in coalition against Russia - so it's a huge embarrassment to them and p*ssing in their bed stuff, what Russia have done and are doing to their 1.3 million army you useless POS. This is a big section of NATO and NATO minds and capabilities being destroyed.

    And its embarassment to them what Russia have done using a fraction in number and capabilities of our men, airpower, tanks etc.etc. All those billions of dollars in planning, and it immediately proven in a few days over February/March in 2022 that Russia could take all the Baltics with a very small force if wanted to, judging by the NATO disaster for 404. Russia forces and equipment, crucially, are not close to being depleted for any official NATO war against these extra equipment/technologies/3 million personnel, however unwanted this war would be.

    As I say, you are in zero position to say what either sides "might" is you POS . Pointless to talk about non-use of ICBM's when talking about "full might" you idiot. SMO is fought at maximum intensity........at stage of combat NATO and Russia are willing to commit to. Thousands of NATO employees are working 24/7 using huge resources to try and defeat Russia with what is defacto a large part of their military at 1.3 million. NATO don't want trillions of dollars of F-35's "parked", nose down in some field in Ukraine, Russia doesn't want to use numerous things at this stage either.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.
     
    ROFL, just to completely emphasise what a clueless bimbo you are, not even aware of what terms as "mobilised" actually mean when talking about it. Embarrassing - though I suppose as you have no personal connection to anybody actually fighting in the SMO you can make these inane, stupid comments.

    1.3 million - but none of us can be sure what the population of Ukraine is you dumb prick. 10 million between Russia (says much) and the west fled from Ukraine. Officially (LOL) That's 28 million left , real number is probably 15 million at what could now be 60+/40 proportion of male to female.
    Great Patriotic War reached 6% mobilisation rate . 5% for Nazi Germany. Here there is an enlarged military personnel because 404 has zero military-industrial capacity and the west provides all that for them, so 404 can provide more cannon fodder in combat........however this is still a fairly localised war not fought at same level of intensity or scale as GPW, so that is full mobilisation numbers we are seeing here you idiot. 5% already for "official" population number. 7% for unoffical.

    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.
     
    With all the other stupid nonsense of yourself.....too stupid to dignify with a response.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    So Russia is fighting at a big numerical disadvantage and a big financial disadvantage in what they have committed to the SMO

    Well, if this is true, then Russia needs to:

    1) Ante up and support its troops, OR:

    2) Get the f_ck out of Ukraine ASAP.
    .
    Otherwise its going to get decimated even worse than what its already experienced. There’s really not a viable third option for Russia or else its going to eventually implode on itself. I’d suggest that it retreat back to its own borders, as it did ultimately in Afghanistan. You don’t honestly feel that Russia’s chances of “success’ in Ukraine are better than what it faced in Afghanistan?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    Get the f_ck out of Ukraine ASAP.
     
    Unfortunately, your metaphysical wishes will not come true. These are Russian historical cities and land. This is a reason for defending their mistreated minority at the hand of unwashed banderites. Remember it was one country and Stalin created borders by falling asleep over map with pencil in his hand erratically drawing borders.
  539. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    If Kari Lake polls worse than other Republicans (don't know her particular case, but it often is so with pro-Russian MAGAs) so if anything he may have been thwarting the Democrats.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    If Kari Lake polls worse than other Republicans (don’t know her particular case, but it often is so with pro-Russian MAGAs) so if anything he may have been thwarting the Democrats.

    Kari Lake polls very well, as is often the case with MAGA candidates against Forever Wars. And, she will go up farther in the wake of the bribery revelation. The incumbent Sinema left the Democrat party and will be running as an independent. Kari Lake’s chance of victory is high.

    Establishment RINO’s and NeoConDemocrats are the same team. Creatures like Mitch McConnell prefers Dems to MAGA. Kari Lake is a personal threat to his ability to become Majority Leader, which is why he tried to have her bribed out of the Senate race.

    To stop her run for Governor, the dirty tricks squad used every effort to suppress the vote. For example, ballot printers were deliberately set to output the wrong size so they could not be machine tallied and then many went missing without being hand counted. Fortunately, with so much scrutiny on the process in 2024, the RINO/DNC ability to commit vote fraud will be much more limited this cycle.
    ____

    As you mentioned polling. Check out the latest (1). Trump is +4.3% over the White House occupant, while Haley is only +1.1%. Nikki’s warmongering does not appear to be attracting many voters.

    Drilling down on the 7 Battleground States (Arizona | Nevada | Wisconsin | Michigan | Pennsylvania | North Carolina | Georgia), Trump is:

    Ahead — 5 — North Carolina +9.0%, and the others +4.5-6.0%
    Tied — 1 — Wisconsin
    Behind — 1 — Pennsylvania -0.6%

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    But Haley's not soon giving up, poised for a big victory in her home state of South Carolina, and especially as 51% of Republicans are looking for somebody else other than Trump. The 51% is bound to grow after her big victory in South Carolina. This one is far from over.

    https://cdn.creators.com/210/364449/364449_image.jpg

  540. German_reader says:
    @Coconuts
    @German_reader


    However, what’s his system except personalized rule by himself, in cooperation with his buddies from the security services?
     
    The system might be based around having an economy orientated around natural resources. Then the siloviki are needed to protect the resources and the extraction/transit industries, and supervise distribution of the resulting revenues to the population.

    In theory maybe this system could be extended if European countries created manufacturing and production industries based on the resources.

    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.

    Replies: @German_reader

    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.

    Given Putin’s late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s. Weren’t ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this? I suppose someone like Putin who seems somewhat fixated on geopolitical great power competition to the exclusion of everything else might just not care about such demographic changes and their potential consequences. More people might just equal more power for him.
    I’m not sure though Karlin’s “Putin is such a boomer, he doesn’t even use the internet” was quite the devastating criticism Karlin thought it to be. In the West one can sometimes get the impression that a growing part of the “elites” get their picture of reality from social media and the like (honestly find it shocking what kind of insight you can sometimes get on Twitter in the thought processes and behaviour of journalists and politicians, the kind of people who shape public discourse and make political decisions). That’s hardly optimal either.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @German_reader


    Weren’t ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this?
     
    In 1989:

    Russians: 50.8%
    Eastern Slavs: 69.8%

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union

    Replies: @AP

    , @Yevardian
    @German_reader


    Given Putin’s late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s.
     
    Not to engage in my own ethnonarcissim, but if you look at the USSR's Caucasian-policy there was consistent favour of "Azeri" (the ethnic Iranian-Azeri Kasravi wrote comprehensively on just how fake Azeri identity was) Turkic interests, after years of escalating anti-Armenian pogroms, the USSR only finally lost its patience when Azeris began tearing down the USSR-IRan border-fence, demanding unification. USSR couldn't afford such a diplomatic bomb going off and that's when the Soviet army intervened in "Black January".

    In retrospect it seems the USSR definitively decided to suppress all Armenian irredentist aspirations when Stalin had to abandon his plans for a post-WWII invasion of Turkey, after it joined NATO. Turkish public opinion, like Sweden, Spain & Iran was overwhelmingly pro-Axis, but their governments wisely didn't want to risk entering the war.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Another Polish Perspective, @Mr. XYZ

    , @Beckow
    @German_reader


    ...Weren’t ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this?
     
    In the 1980's people of Slav or Euro origin were around 80-85% of SU. But the comparisons with today's Russia need to be more precise: there is a large Caucasian population of Georgians, Armenians, Chechens, Dagis..., Finno-Ugric nations, Tatars-Bashkirs. They are all effectively white Euro nations with a different religion (not always). Large portion of the Central Asians in Russia is less Third World than the migrants to Europe - mixed Russian-German-Koreans-Turks. I have met Uzbeks from Samarkand who are way preferable to LA mestizos or Indians.

    What ruins demography are too many Africans, Indians-Pakis, poor Middle Easterners and Chinese. Russia doesn't have them, but many Euro nations are overrun by them - and they keep on coming. Religion? Well, it's too late for that and accommodation with Islam or Buddhists is easier than fixing urban decay, crime, welfare poverty.

    The world has changed and the best we can hope for is some balance. We need to focus on what groups cause most damage: the Subcontinent Indians (e.g. in Britain), the Merkel migrants, Africans, in US the millions crossing through the southern border. Compared to that Eastern Europe is unscathed, and Russia too. Not ideal, but still manageable.

    , @Coconuts
    @German_reader


    Given Putin’s late Soviet background this might not be surprising.
     
    Yes, I was thinking about the anti-colonial movement in the decades immediately after 1945 as well, part of the inspiration for that came from the Soviet example (I think you see that in Sartre, Fanon etc.). As the boomers got older and generally wealthier the socialist elements seemed to drop away, but the anti-colonial and anti-racist themes remained.
  541. @Gerard1234
    @AP

    For a bimbo as yourself to be commenting on anything military related is in addition to being comedic and an insult to everyones intelligence , is severely f**ked up. Its as bad as a fantasist scumbag as yourself talking about places you have never been to like Europe, Russia or Ukraine.....or on medical issues.......or bizarrely, even on BASIC issues about European Royal Familys which is inexplicable that a fantasist retard as yourself, claiming to be directly affected by 12th century events and devoting millions of posts to it.......would not know!!


    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.
     
    LMFAO, NATO is spending massively more amounts of money on this than Russian you dumb bag of sh*t, not even close. Russia is fighting a defacto NATO military. This NATO army is 1.3 million in size ( OK includes police and Border Force on western border etc, but every indication that is a "topped up" number) - trained by NATO, armed by NATO, given masses of NATO weapons and Soviet weapons modified to be used with NATO systems, dictated to by NATO officers orders on the battlefield and at HQ, carrying out operations planned 100% in NATO headquarters ( at micro and macro level), given access to realtime intelligence from NATO's trillion dollar intelligence network and equipment so to enact singular and co-ordinated action on the battlefield immediately and for diversionary actions......and having their women who are literal NATO prostitutes service every desire of NATO mercs/sex tourists perversions that they wish. Owned, administered, ordered ....even clothed by NATO you retarded cretin.

    So Russia is fighting at a big numerical disadvantage and a big financial disadvantage in what they have committed to the SMO. Official NATO military is over 3 million, of which much could never be committed to fight on one front against Russia anyway and it's highly debatable which of the Asian and European NATO countries would actually fight in coalition against Russia - so it's a huge embarrassment to them and p*ssing in their bed stuff, what Russia have done and are doing to their 1.3 million army you useless POS. This is a big section of NATO and NATO minds and capabilities being destroyed.

    And its embarassment to them what Russia have done using a fraction in number and capabilities of our men, airpower, tanks etc.etc. All those billions of dollars in planning, and it immediately proven in a few days over February/March in 2022 that Russia could take all the Baltics with a very small force if wanted to, judging by the NATO disaster for 404. Russia forces and equipment, crucially, are not close to being depleted for any official NATO war against these extra equipment/technologies/3 million personnel, however unwanted this war would be.

    As I say, you are in zero position to say what either sides "might" is you POS . Pointless to talk about non-use of ICBM's when talking about "full might" you idiot. SMO is fought at maximum intensity........at stage of combat NATO and Russia are willing to commit to. Thousands of NATO employees are working 24/7 using huge resources to try and defeat Russia with what is defacto a large part of their military at 1.3 million. NATO don't want trillions of dollars of F-35's "parked", nose down in some field in Ukraine, Russia doesn't want to use numerous things at this stage either.

    And even Ukraine is not exactly “fully engaged,” like in World War II. Most men have not been mobilised.
     
    ROFL, just to completely emphasise what a clueless bimbo you are, not even aware of what terms as "mobilised" actually mean when talking about it. Embarrassing - though I suppose as you have no personal connection to anybody actually fighting in the SMO you can make these inane, stupid comments.

    1.3 million - but none of us can be sure what the population of Ukraine is you dumb prick. 10 million between Russia (says much) and the west fled from Ukraine. Officially (LOL) That's 28 million left , real number is probably 15 million at what could now be 60+/40 proportion of male to female.
    Great Patriotic War reached 6% mobilisation rate . 5% for Nazi Germany. Here there is an enlarged military personnel because 404 has zero military-industrial capacity and the west provides all that for them, so 404 can provide more cannon fodder in combat........however this is still a fairly localised war not fought at same level of intensity or scale as GPW, so that is full mobilisation numbers we are seeing here you idiot. 5% already for "official" population number. 7% for unoffical.

    NATO had not moved its expansion to Ukraine. Even if it did, starting a bloody was a dumb choice. Neither North Korea nor Iran have foolish enough to do something like that.
     
    With all the other stupid nonsense of yourself.....too stupid to dignify with a response.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    LMFAO, NATO is spending massively more amounts of money on this

    As a percentage of its total economy, NATO is devoting a tiny fraction to this war compared to what Russia is. Russia’s budget is heavily skewed in favor of military spending at the expense of civilian needs – NAT coujntries don’t even notice what they are spending on this war.

    Of course, as a Sovok “engineer” math is very hard for you, so this is too complex for you to understand.

    Official NATO military is over 3 million, of which much could never be committed to fight on one front against Russia anyway and it’s highly debatable which of the Asian and European NATO countries would actually fight in coalition against Russia

    Fortunately for NATO they don’t need to. Ukrainians supplied with NATO weapons hold Russia to 8% of Ukrainian territory that Russia took in 2022. If Ukraine were given more and better NATO weapons the Russians would hold even less.

    I suppose as you have no personal connection to anybody actually fighting in the SMO

    Congratulations, you finally managed to say something correct.

    All of my personal connections in Russia are in Moscow, and they are well off people. Not a single one of them, nor any of their loved ones, are getting their guts blown out in some Kherson field. That is the fate of “losers” from small towns and cities in the provinces, convicts, Buryats, Dagestanis, etc. Muscovites meanwhile live well in one of the world’s greatest cities while those poor suckers die horrible deaths on a large scale. I think that is tragic and horrible (that the losers are getting killed, not that Muscovites are safe – I am happy for Muscovites). You apparently do not. Well, you are safe in your English sh*hole, what do you care? Hopefully you keep the floors nice and clean for the English.

    My personal connections in Ukraine aren’t fighting either. One of them owns a construction business and is a skilled electrician; he and his team help repair stuff that Russians destroy, so he isn’t needed at the front as a soldier. The others are just working. Most Ukrainians are not fighting, after all. It is certainly a major war but not a total war, or something like World War II. The Ukrainian SSR had 33.5 million people 1939, and about 6 million served in the Soviet forces. Ukraine (population 31 million or so in 2021?) has under a million troops.

    Great Patriotic War reached 6% mobilisation rate

    I wouldn’t try to use numbers if I were you, “engineer”-monkey. You aren’t very good with them.

    talking about places you have never been to like Europe, Russia or Ukraine

    You like to repeat this lie so once again I point out that our former host mentioned our brief meeting in Moscow:

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I think that Geraldina's reading comprehension skills are occasionally kind of weak. I don't understand why he can't understand Karlin's account of meeting with you in Moscow? Or even why he questions somebody like you often visiting Moscow, Ukraine, Poland and other parts of Europe too. I believe all of your accounts and am patiently waiting for the day that you invite me to your retirement villa somewhere in Italy? :-)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

  542. German_reader says:
    @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    Honorary degrees don’t count.
    Unless you want to imply he was a certified witch doctor, which might of course be quite plausible for such a vile man.
     
    That just sounds racist to the great Doctor . He was a Catholic . I think he went to Oxford or Cambridge Universities like Gandhi. I am not here to defend him.....just to say he is a million times better than the lowlife western politicians making decisions against Russia.

    More importantly.....there is NOTHING to say he was morally or intellectually inferior to European/Western scum like Sholtz , Macron, Biden, Trump, Hunter, Sikorski-homo, Estonian-bitch etc. Would need to read his biography to know fully .....but he was in jail for purely political reasons, I think either his wife or daughter was killed by the previous regime, for democracy- pure democracy would result in all the Africans seizing white-owned farms and property immediately after Mugabe becoming elected - he waited 20 years to start doing this, and even then only partially. He renamed Salisbury to Harare........but didn't do retarded things like name Victoria Falls into Bandera Falls or Boris Nemtsov Falls. He allowed his main enemy, who he fought war against, to live peacefully in the country. That still places him as more sophisticated then most of the west politicians.

    On inter-african tribal conflict in Zimbabwe........maybe you know, but I am zero knowledge position to comment on it.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Yevardian

    On inter-african tribal conflict in Zimbabwe

    There were some massacres in the 1980s:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gukurahundi

    Probably relatively minor by the standards of post-independence Africa. There were worse African rulers than Mugabe, some of them backed by the West. But the economic consequences of his misrule were quite disastrous.
    I don’t agree with credentialism anyway, always suspect to me when people insist on mentioning their academic titles.

  543. @German_reader
    @Coconuts


    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.
     
    Given Putin's late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s. Weren't ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this? I suppose someone like Putin who seems somewhat fixated on geopolitical great power competition to the exclusion of everything else might just not care about such demographic changes and their potential consequences. More people might just equal more power for him.
    I'm not sure though Karlin's "Putin is such a boomer, he doesn't even use the internet" was quite the devastating criticism Karlin thought it to be. In the West one can sometimes get the impression that a growing part of the "elites" get their picture of reality from social media and the like (honestly find it shocking what kind of insight you can sometimes get on Twitter in the thought processes and behaviour of journalists and politicians, the kind of people who shape public discourse and make political decisions). That's hardly optimal either.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yevardian, @Beckow, @Coconuts

    Weren’t ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this?

    In 1989:

    Russians: 50.8%
    Eastern Slavs: 69.8%

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union

    • Thanks: German_reader
    • Replies: @AP
    @songbird

    Currently there are about 100 million Muslims in the former USSR (around 84 million in Muslim ex-Soviet republics and about 16 million in Russia itself though this number could be even higher). Compared to around 104 million ethnic Russians in Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  544. @songbird
    @German_reader


    Weren’t ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this?
     
    In 1989:

    Russians: 50.8%
    Eastern Slavs: 69.8%

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union

    Replies: @AP

    Currently there are about 100 million Muslims in the former USSR (around 84 million in Muslim ex-Soviet republics and about 16 million in Russia itself though this number could be even higher). Compared to around 104 million ethnic Russians in Russia.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    But in terms of births, there appear to be more Muslim births in the former USSR right now than there are non-Muslim births:

    Number of births in the ex-USSR countries:

    Ukraine: 194,000 (2023): Virtually no Muslim
    Russia: 1,304,000 (2022): Maybe 10% Muslim
    Belarus: 74,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Moldova: 27,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Kazakhstan: 404,000 (2022): Perhaps 80% Muslim
    Kyrgyzstan: 150,000 (2022): Perhaps 95% Muslim
    Tajikistan: 231,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Uzbekistan: 932,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Turkmenistan: 145,000 (2010; more recent data not available): Virtually all Muslim
    Azerbaijan: 123,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim, albeit Shi’a rather than Sunni like in the rest of the ex-USSR
    Armenia: 36,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Georgia: 42,000 (2022): Perhaps 10% Muslim

    The predominantly Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,985,000 births in total while the predominantly non-Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,677,000 births in total. So, Yeah, the Muslims appear to be winning here!

    Replies: @Derer

  545. @A123
    @AP


    If Kari Lake polls worse than other Republicans (don’t know her particular case, but it often is so with pro-Russian MAGAs) so if anything he may have been thwarting the Democrats.
     
    Kari Lake polls very well, as is often the case with MAGA candidates against Forever Wars. And, she will go up farther in the wake of the bribery revelation. The incumbent Sinema left the Democrat party and will be running as an independent. Kari Lake's chance of victory is high.

    Establishment RINO's and NeoConDemocrats are the same team. Creatures like Mitch McConnell prefers Dems to MAGA. Kari Lake is a personal threat to his ability to become Majority Leader, which is why he tried to have her bribed out of the Senate race.

    To stop her run for Governor, the dirty tricks squad used every effort to suppress the vote. For example, ballot printers were deliberately set to output the wrong size so they could not be machine tallied and then many went missing without being hand counted. Fortunately, with so much scrutiny on the process in 2024, the RINO/DNC ability to commit vote fraud will be much more limited this cycle.
    ____

    As you mentioned polling. Check out the latest (1). Trump is +4.3% over the White House occupant, while Haley is only +1.1%. Nikki's warmongering does not appear to be attracting many voters.

    Drilling down on the 7 Battleground States (Arizona | Nevada | Wisconsin | Michigan | Pennsylvania | North Carolina | Georgia), Trump is:

    Ahead -- 5 -- North Carolina +9.0%, and the others +4.5-6.0%
    Tied -- 1 -- Wisconsin
    Behind -- 1 -- Pennsylvania -0.6%

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    But Haley’s not soon giving up, poised for a big victory in her home state of South Carolina, and especially as 51% of Republicans are looking for somebody else other than Trump. The 51% is bound to grow after her big victory in South Carolina. This one is far from over.

  546. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    Russia is using much more of its “fill might” than NATO is. Not even close.

    LMFAO, NATO is spending massively more amounts of money on this
     
    As a percentage of its total economy, NATO is devoting a tiny fraction to this war compared to what Russia is. Russia's budget is heavily skewed in favor of military spending at the expense of civilian needs - NAT coujntries don't even notice what they are spending on this war.

    Of course, as a Sovok "engineer" math is very hard for you, so this is too complex for you to understand.

    Official NATO military is over 3 million, of which much could never be committed to fight on one front against Russia anyway and it’s highly debatable which of the Asian and European NATO countries would actually fight in coalition against Russia
     
    Fortunately for NATO they don't need to. Ukrainians supplied with NATO weapons hold Russia to 8% of Ukrainian territory that Russia took in 2022. If Ukraine were given more and better NATO weapons the Russians would hold even less.

    I suppose as you have no personal connection to anybody actually fighting in the SMO
     
    Congratulations, you finally managed to say something correct.

    All of my personal connections in Russia are in Moscow, and they are well off people. Not a single one of them, nor any of their loved ones, are getting their guts blown out in some Kherson field. That is the fate of "losers" from small towns and cities in the provinces, convicts, Buryats, Dagestanis, etc. Muscovites meanwhile live well in one of the world's greatest cities while those poor suckers die horrible deaths on a large scale. I think that is tragic and horrible (that the losers are getting killed, not that Muscovites are safe - I am happy for Muscovites). You apparently do not. Well, you are safe in your English sh*hole, what do you care? Hopefully you keep the floors nice and clean for the English.

    My personal connections in Ukraine aren't fighting either. One of them owns a construction business and is a skilled electrician; he and his team help repair stuff that Russians destroy, so he isn't needed at the front as a soldier. The others are just working. Most Ukrainians are not fighting, after all. It is certainly a major war but not a total war, or something like World War II. The Ukrainian SSR had 33.5 million people 1939, and about 6 million served in the Soviet forces. Ukraine (population 31 million or so in 2021?) has under a million troops.

    Great Patriotic War reached 6% mobilisation rate
     
    I wouldn't try to use numbers if I were you, "engineer"-monkey. You aren't very good with them.

    talking about places you have never been to like Europe, Russia or Ukraine
     
    You like to repeat this lie so once again I point out that our former host mentioned our brief meeting in Moscow:



    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-40/

    https://i.imgur.com/aCRBRFv.png

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I think that Geraldina’s reading comprehension skills are occasionally kind of weak. I don’t understand why he can’t understand Karlin’s account of meeting with you in Moscow? Or even why he questions somebody like you often visiting Moscow, Ukraine, Poland and other parts of Europe too. I believe all of your accounts and am patiently waiting for the day that you invite me to your retirement villa somewhere in Italy? 🙂

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. Hack

    I'm hoping that there would be some room in your new digs in Italy to house at least three large bookshelves of some really interesting books too. :-)

    , @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    10-15 more years or so, if it happens.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

  547. @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I think that Geraldina's reading comprehension skills are occasionally kind of weak. I don't understand why he can't understand Karlin's account of meeting with you in Moscow? Or even why he questions somebody like you often visiting Moscow, Ukraine, Poland and other parts of Europe too. I believe all of your accounts and am patiently waiting for the day that you invite me to your retirement villa somewhere in Italy? :-)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    I’m hoping that there would be some room in your new digs in Italy to house at least three large bookshelves of some really interesting books too. 🙂

  548. @Beckow
    @QCIC

    The sad thing is that they know - but they have tribal minds not interested in reality only in pushing their tribal agenda. They are marketing mythology and self-serving half-lies. The problem is that once Russia called their bluff in Ukraine the marketing wasn't enough. Now it is all about reality and power.

    They use the Western ignorance to rewrite the recent history. They describe only one side and are only interested in their own suffering - it all has a purpose. But to understand one has to let go of the purpose. They can't, it is too emotional.

    I wonder how they will handle the disappointment as the inevitable happens...Kiev is not winning, and can't really win and there will be no NATO in Ukraine - and in spite of that the costs in lives and destruction will be enormous.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    I wonder how they will handle the disappointment as the inevitable happens…

    Exactly like the banderies coped with the fact that their side lost in WW2.

  549. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    Well, what about this?

    https://news.yahoo.com/putin-signals-washington-ready-talks-225000203.html

    Replies: @Beckow

    Wow, even better…you moved from yellow journalism to the official in-house organ of the neo-con security establishment – Wash Post. What’s next? Kim Il’s speeches?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    Is Bloomberg good enough for you?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-25/russia-ukraine-putin-signals-interest-in-discussing-end-to-war

    And in any case, AFAIK the Washington Post is a reliable source.

    Replies: @Beckow

  550. @Mr. Hack
    @Mr. XYZ

    If you "agree"with AP's comment where his basic premise is for Russia to "do nothing", why in the world would you promote the idea that back in 2014 you'd find it acceptable (or even preferable) for Russia to have taken the Donbas and the corridor too? If anything, hasn't this disastrous war shown that it's always been more than just capturing Donbas, but all of Ukraine too? Or realistically, as much as Russia could get away with stealing?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Conquering the Donbass and the Corridor should have been much easier back in 2014 when Ukraine barely had an army.

    I do want to clarify something, though: The most moral course of action for Russia back in 2014 would have been to do nothing and to simply leave Ukraine completely alone. However, given that Putin’s conquest of Crimea significantly boosted his own approval ratings, doing nothing would not have been the best move for Putin personally. So, then it would simply be a case of taking as much as possible without destroying Russia’s relations with the West, and the limit for that back in 2014 would probably be Crimea + Donbass + maybe the Crimean Corridor. The main value of the Crimean Corridor for Russia would be to secure Crimea’s water supply and to secure a land route to Crimea.

  551. @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    Wow, even better...you moved from yellow journalism to the official in-house organ of the neo-con security establishment - Wash Post. What's next? Kim Il's speeches?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Is Bloomberg good enough for you?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-25/russia-ukraine-putin-signals-interest-in-discussing-end-to-war

    And in any case, AFAIK the Washington Post is a reliable source.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    It's not. The "signal" articles are unsourced and PR by people who are afraid they are losing the war - so are begging for negotiation. The way to 'signal' that is to claim that the enemy is secretly interested in "discussions"....

    Don't be dense. Russia has mocked these "signals" and denied them. It looks like you are quite gullible. If Russia officially says it, you will have something, but "signals"?

  552. @AP
    @songbird

    Currently there are about 100 million Muslims in the former USSR (around 84 million in Muslim ex-Soviet republics and about 16 million in Russia itself though this number could be even higher). Compared to around 104 million ethnic Russians in Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    But in terms of births, there appear to be more Muslim births in the former USSR right now than there are non-Muslim births:

    Number of births in the ex-USSR countries:

    Ukraine: 194,000 (2023): Virtually no Muslim
    Russia: 1,304,000 (2022): Maybe 10% Muslim
    Belarus: 74,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Moldova: 27,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Kazakhstan: 404,000 (2022): Perhaps 80% Muslim
    Kyrgyzstan: 150,000 (2022): Perhaps 95% Muslim
    Tajikistan: 231,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Uzbekistan: 932,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Turkmenistan: 145,000 (2010; more recent data not available): Virtually all Muslim
    Azerbaijan: 123,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim, albeit Shi’a rather than Sunni like in the rest of the ex-USSR
    Armenia: 36,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Georgia: 42,000 (2022): Perhaps 10% Muslim

    The predominantly Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,985,000 births in total while the predominantly non-Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,677,000 births in total. So, Yeah, the Muslims appear to be winning here!

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    By the dissolution of the Soviet Union, actually Russia unloaded predominantly Muslim countries but they remain in friendly relation with Russia. What is your point with that statistics.

    The huge concern with Muslim statistic is actually in Europe. For instance, according to the demographic projection, France will become Muslim country in 36 years.

    Replies: @AP

  553. The empire and the rest of the West laments the fact that Russia alone produced more artillery shells in 2023 than all NATO countries combined. Some even come to the painful politically incorrect realization that what the official GDP numbers tell the gullible is not quite true.

    All sorts of financial derivatives are used in creative accounting to boost the GDP numbers in the US and Europe. Real problem is, you cannot drive those financial derivatives, shoot them, wear them, or eat them. In essence, they are all worthless illusions, a reflection of a reflection, i.e., hot air squared. They warm the souls of propagandists and morons, but they cannot keep your body fed or warm, they cannot be loaded into guns, etc. During Ukraine war the reality hit this Western GDP myth so strongly that some even not too bright people noticed. Clinical idiots didn’t, so you might say that the propaganda works.

    • Agree: Derer
  554. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    Is Bloomberg good enough for you?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-25/russia-ukraine-putin-signals-interest-in-discussing-end-to-war

    And in any case, AFAIK the Washington Post is a reliable source.

    Replies: @Beckow

    It’s not. The “signal” articles are unsourced and PR by people who are afraid they are losing the war – so are begging for negotiation. The way to ‘signal’ that is to claim that the enemy is secretly interested in “discussions”….

    Don’t be dense. Russia has mocked these “signals” and denied them. It looks like you are quite gullible. If Russia officially says it, you will have something, but “signals”?

  555. @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234


    So Russia is fighting at a big numerical disadvantage and a big financial disadvantage in what they have committed to the SMO
     
    Well, if this is true, then Russia needs to:

    1) Ante up and support its troops, OR:

    2) Get the f_ck out of Ukraine ASAP.
    .
    Otherwise its going to get decimated even worse than what its already experienced. There's really not a viable third option for Russia or else its going to eventually implode on itself. I'd suggest that it retreat back to its own borders, as it did ultimately in Afghanistan. You don't honestly feel that Russia's chances of "success' in Ukraine are better than what it faced in Afghanistan?

    Replies: @Derer

    Get the f_ck out of Ukraine ASAP.

    Unfortunately, your metaphysical wishes will not come true. These are Russian historical cities and land. This is a reason for defending their mistreated minority at the hand of unwashed banderites. Remember it was one country and Stalin created borders by falling asleep over map with pencil in his hand erratically drawing borders.

  556. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    You can play stupid and insist that it is only Ukraine – but it is not: it is about NATO in Ukraine. NATO in Ukraine would be in a significantly better position to threaten Russia, including Crimea and its Russian naval bases…in any crisis, or any time Russia would go through internal turmoil, the ability to threaten or strike Russia from Ukraine would be very destabilizing. At that point Russia would only have the choice of using nukes – and they may not be willing to do that.
     
    Ukraine wouldn't be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity to its borders today. I never hear them complain about Turkey, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania.the Baltic States, Slovakia or Hungary today. Barely a whimper as Finland recently joined NATO. Only Turkey has nuclear weapons of these countries, and Russia never complains. Even if Ukraine were to ever access NATO, I seriously doubt that it would be set-up as a staging point for nuclear weapons aimed at Russia.

    Replies: @Sean, @Beckow

    …Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity

    Nonsense. Ukraine is much larger and much closer to the Russian core region. Get a map, it is rather obvious. Kiev has also shown implacable hostility to anything Russian (“kill the Moskali”) and has been in a de facto state of war with Russia since 2014.

    None of the other NATO states come close to that combination of threats. It is the difference between threat from Cuba and a threat from Mexico or Quebec. It is an order of magnitude worse threat and Russia made clear that they saw it that way.

    Why couldn’t Biden-BoJo-Zelko-NATO simply issue a statement in January 2022 that “Ukraine will not join NATO” – instead they publicly insisted that it will. It is up to each country to decide the level of threat they will tolerate: Latvia is harmless, so is Finland, but Ukraine is obviously not. They have shown since 2022 that they are willing to do just about anything to Russia. In fact, they are retroactively showing that Russia wasn’t irrational seeing Kiev as a threat.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    …Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity

    Ukraine is much larger
     
    Irrelevant, since NATO operates as a bloc. You aren't worried that Ukraine alone would conquer Russia if Ukriane were a NATO member, I assume you aren't that crazy or stupid.

    and much closer to the Russian core region
     
    Nonsense. Russia's core region can be considered either Moscow (maybe include Peter too since it is the 2nd largest city) or the upper Volga, extending eastwards into the Urals. It's most economically important regions are gas fields in northern Siberia.

    Russia's second largest city Saint Petersburg is right next to the Baltics and Finland. 154 km from Saint Petersburg to the Estonian border. 200 km to the Finnish border.

    There isn't much difference distance-wise from Finland/Baltics to Russia's core demographic areas.

    The Ukrainian border is only 80 km closer to Moscow than the Latvian border.
    Russia's demographic center is in Izhevsk. This city is about 1700km from the Ukrainian border and 1800 from the Latvian border.

    Norway, Canada, and the USA are far closer to Russia's gas producing arctic regions.

    Get a map, it is rather obvious
     
    Do you not know how to read maps?

    It is the difference between threat from Cuba and a threat from Mexico or Quebec
     
    America tolerated a hostile Canada for decades in the 19th century. Canadians burned the White House in 1812.

    Mexico's population is about 39% of America's population.

    Ukraine's population is about 22% of Russia's population.

    They have shown since 2022 that they are willing to do just about anything to Russia.
     
    Fight back when someone invades them.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @songbird

  557. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    But in terms of births, there appear to be more Muslim births in the former USSR right now than there are non-Muslim births:

    Number of births in the ex-USSR countries:

    Ukraine: 194,000 (2023): Virtually no Muslim
    Russia: 1,304,000 (2022): Maybe 10% Muslim
    Belarus: 74,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Moldova: 27,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Kazakhstan: 404,000 (2022): Perhaps 80% Muslim
    Kyrgyzstan: 150,000 (2022): Perhaps 95% Muslim
    Tajikistan: 231,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Uzbekistan: 932,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim
    Turkmenistan: 145,000 (2010; more recent data not available): Virtually all Muslim
    Azerbaijan: 123,000 (2022): Virtually all Muslim, albeit Shi’a rather than Sunni like in the rest of the ex-USSR
    Armenia: 36,000 (2022): Virtually no Muslim
    Georgia: 42,000 (2022): Perhaps 10% Muslim

    The predominantly Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,985,000 births in total while the predominantly non-Muslim ex-USSR countries had 1,677,000 births in total. So, Yeah, the Muslims appear to be winning here!

    Replies: @Derer

    By the dissolution of the Soviet Union, actually Russia unloaded predominantly Muslim countries but they remain in friendly relation with Russia. What is your point with that statistics.

    The huge concern with Muslim statistic is actually in Europe. For instance, according to the demographic projection, France will become Muslim country in 36 years.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Derer


    For instance, according to the demographic projection, France will become Muslim country in 36 years.
     
    You manage to be as dumb when it comes to France as you are when discussing Russia or Ukraine.
  558. @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    Honorary degrees don’t count.
    Unless you want to imply he was a certified witch doctor, which might of course be quite plausible for such a vile man.
     
    That just sounds racist to the great Doctor . He was a Catholic . I think he went to Oxford or Cambridge Universities like Gandhi. I am not here to defend him.....just to say he is a million times better than the lowlife western politicians making decisions against Russia.

    More importantly.....there is NOTHING to say he was morally or intellectually inferior to European/Western scum like Sholtz , Macron, Biden, Trump, Hunter, Sikorski-homo, Estonian-bitch etc. Would need to read his biography to know fully .....but he was in jail for purely political reasons, I think either his wife or daughter was killed by the previous regime, for democracy- pure democracy would result in all the Africans seizing white-owned farms and property immediately after Mugabe becoming elected - he waited 20 years to start doing this, and even then only partially. He renamed Salisbury to Harare........but didn't do retarded things like name Victoria Falls into Bandera Falls or Boris Nemtsov Falls. He allowed his main enemy, who he fought war against, to live peacefully in the country. That still places him as more sophisticated then most of the west politicians.

    On inter-african tribal conflict in Zimbabwe........maybe you know, but I am zero knowledge position to comment on it.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Yevardian

    Not a fan of DOCTOR Mugabe myself, but Gerard is right it took a while for Mugabe to go full apefrican, by the standards of the region his early years of rule were comparatively mild (low bar, of course). Only read one book on Rhodesia-Zimbabwe nearly a decade ago, but I recall the initial* land-thefts of white farmers were done not so much on Mugabe’s own initiative, but rather other, more rabid, ZANU members he came up with eventually forced his hand. There are prominent figures out now like Julius Malema that make DOCTOR Zimbabwe look like the ideal of sanity and moderation. And frankly Gerard’s point about Western politicians also rings true, can’t imagine a single one of them risking their pitable hides in any armed struggle whatsoever. Look at the Zelensky-worship for doing the absolute bare minimum, just for not fleeing the Ukraine permanently after the first hint of a full Russian invasion.

    Nonetheless fact remains the country eventually was completely destroyed economically under his rule. But I think the real villain of the story remains the British government for betraying their own so badly, and not even for any benefit to themselves, just pure spite and virtue-signaling.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Yevardian


    And frankly Gerard’s point about Western politicians also rings true, can’t imagine a single one of them risking their pitable hides in any armed struggle whatsoever.
     
    Sure, but you could say the same about Mugabe's opponents. Ian Smith had a distinguished service record in the RAF during WW2, and despite its somewhat repressive and anti-democratic character the regime he headed wasn't really terroristic or guilty of mass killings.
    But I would agree that Mugabe himself was excessively demonized by British tabloids in the early 2000s. At least he did have sound views about homosexuals.
    , @AnonfromTN
    @Yevardian


    Not a fan of DOCTOR Mugabe myself
     
    Hey, be fair. DOCTOR Mugabe was a trail-blazer for our Alzheimer-in-chief. He showed at least twice how with necessary level of voting fraud corrupt demented half-corpse can win the elections. In 2020 the US followed in Zimbabwe footsteps.
  559. @German_reader
    @Coconuts


    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.
     
    Given Putin's late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s. Weren't ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this? I suppose someone like Putin who seems somewhat fixated on geopolitical great power competition to the exclusion of everything else might just not care about such demographic changes and their potential consequences. More people might just equal more power for him.
    I'm not sure though Karlin's "Putin is such a boomer, he doesn't even use the internet" was quite the devastating criticism Karlin thought it to be. In the West one can sometimes get the impression that a growing part of the "elites" get their picture of reality from social media and the like (honestly find it shocking what kind of insight you can sometimes get on Twitter in the thought processes and behaviour of journalists and politicians, the kind of people who shape public discourse and make political decisions). That's hardly optimal either.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yevardian, @Beckow, @Coconuts

    Given Putin’s late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s.

    Not to engage in my own ethnonarcissim, but if you look at the USSR’s Caucasian-policy there was consistent favour of “Azeri” (the ethnic Iranian-Azeri Kasravi wrote comprehensively on just how fake Azeri identity was) Turkic interests, after years of escalating anti-Armenian pogroms, the USSR only finally lost its patience when Azeris began tearing down the USSR-IRan border-fence, demanding unification. USSR couldn’t afford such a diplomatic bomb going off and that’s when the Soviet army intervened in “Black January”.

    In retrospect it seems the USSR definitively decided to suppress all Armenian irredentist aspirations when Stalin had to abandon his plans for a post-WWII invasion of Turkey, after it joined NATO. Turkish public opinion, like Sweden, Spain & Iran was overwhelmingly pro-Axis, but their governments wisely didn’t want to risk entering the war.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Yevardian


    when Stalin had to abandon his plans for a post-WWII invasion of Turkey
     
    I remember there was an Armenian commenter ("Avery" iirc) on UR who claimed something like that, but is there actually any evidence Stalin had such designs? Find it a bit hard to believe, seems uncharacteristically audacious. What would have been the rationale for something like that? There wasn't really any prospect of firmly installing a pro-Soviet puppet government in Turkey as far as I can tell.

    Replies: @Yevardian

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @Yevardian

    Iran public opinion wasn't overwhelmingly pro-Axis. Shah was, but also not overwhelmingly. Otherwise he would have joined 'Messiah Hitler, the Twelfth Imam". You do join a messiah, don't you ?!

    BTW, Poles were treated very well by Iranians during WWII (they moved there temporarily from Soviet Union on the basis of Sikorski-Mayski agreement).

    Replies: @Yevardian

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Yevardian

    Turkey's odds of entering WWII on the Axis side might have been much higher had the Treaty of Sevres remained in force until WWII instead of being replaced by the more pro-Turkish Treaty of Lausanne in 1923.

  560. German_reader says:
    @Yevardian
    @Gerard1234

    Not a fan of DOCTOR Mugabe myself, but Gerard is right it took a while for Mugabe to go full apefrican, by the standards of the region his early years of rule were comparatively mild (low bar, of course). Only read one book on Rhodesia-Zimbabwe nearly a decade ago, but I recall the initial* land-thefts of white farmers were done not so much on Mugabe's own initiative, but rather other, more rabid, ZANU members he came up with eventually forced his hand. There are prominent figures out now like Julius Malema that make DOCTOR Zimbabwe look like the ideal of sanity and moderation. And frankly Gerard's point about Western politicians also rings true, can't imagine a single one of them risking their pitable hides in any armed struggle whatsoever. Look at the Zelensky-worship for doing the absolute bare minimum, just for not fleeing the Ukraine permanently after the first hint of a full Russian invasion.

    Nonetheless fact remains the country eventually was completely destroyed economically under his rule. But I think the real villain of the story remains the British government for betraying their own so badly, and not even for any benefit to themselves, just pure spite and virtue-signaling.

    Replies: @German_reader, @AnonfromTN

    And frankly Gerard’s point about Western politicians also rings true, can’t imagine a single one of them risking their pitable hides in any armed struggle whatsoever.

    Sure, but you could say the same about Mugabe’s opponents. Ian Smith had a distinguished service record in the RAF during WW2, and despite its somewhat repressive and anti-democratic character the regime he headed wasn’t really terroristic or guilty of mass killings.
    But I would agree that Mugabe himself was excessively demonized by British tabloids in the early 2000s. At least he did have sound views about homosexuals.

  561. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    By the dissolution of the Soviet Union, actually Russia unloaded predominantly Muslim countries but they remain in friendly relation with Russia. What is your point with that statistics.

    The huge concern with Muslim statistic is actually in Europe. For instance, according to the demographic projection, France will become Muslim country in 36 years.

    Replies: @AP

    For instance, according to the demographic projection, France will become Muslim country in 36 years.

    You manage to be as dumb when it comes to France as you are when discussing Russia or Ukraine.

  562. @Yevardian
    @Gerard1234

    Not a fan of DOCTOR Mugabe myself, but Gerard is right it took a while for Mugabe to go full apefrican, by the standards of the region his early years of rule were comparatively mild (low bar, of course). Only read one book on Rhodesia-Zimbabwe nearly a decade ago, but I recall the initial* land-thefts of white farmers were done not so much on Mugabe's own initiative, but rather other, more rabid, ZANU members he came up with eventually forced his hand. There are prominent figures out now like Julius Malema that make DOCTOR Zimbabwe look like the ideal of sanity and moderation. And frankly Gerard's point about Western politicians also rings true, can't imagine a single one of them risking their pitable hides in any armed struggle whatsoever. Look at the Zelensky-worship for doing the absolute bare minimum, just for not fleeing the Ukraine permanently after the first hint of a full Russian invasion.

    Nonetheless fact remains the country eventually was completely destroyed economically under his rule. But I think the real villain of the story remains the British government for betraying their own so badly, and not even for any benefit to themselves, just pure spite and virtue-signaling.

    Replies: @German_reader, @AnonfromTN

    Not a fan of DOCTOR Mugabe myself

    Hey, be fair. DOCTOR Mugabe was a trail-blazer for our Alzheimer-in-chief. He showed at least twice how with necessary level of voting fraud corrupt demented half-corpse can win the elections. In 2020 the US followed in Zimbabwe footsteps.

    • LOL: Yevardian
  563. German_reader says:
    @Yevardian
    @German_reader


    Given Putin’s late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s.
     
    Not to engage in my own ethnonarcissim, but if you look at the USSR's Caucasian-policy there was consistent favour of "Azeri" (the ethnic Iranian-Azeri Kasravi wrote comprehensively on just how fake Azeri identity was) Turkic interests, after years of escalating anti-Armenian pogroms, the USSR only finally lost its patience when Azeris began tearing down the USSR-IRan border-fence, demanding unification. USSR couldn't afford such a diplomatic bomb going off and that's when the Soviet army intervened in "Black January".

    In retrospect it seems the USSR definitively decided to suppress all Armenian irredentist aspirations when Stalin had to abandon his plans for a post-WWII invasion of Turkey, after it joined NATO. Turkish public opinion, like Sweden, Spain & Iran was overwhelmingly pro-Axis, but their governments wisely didn't want to risk entering the war.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Another Polish Perspective, @Mr. XYZ

    when Stalin had to abandon his plans for a post-WWII invasion of Turkey

    I remember there was an Armenian commenter (“Avery” iirc) on UR who claimed something like that, but is there actually any evidence Stalin had such designs? Find it a bit hard to believe, seems uncharacteristically audacious. What would have been the rationale for something like that? There wasn’t really any prospect of firmly installing a pro-Soviet puppet government in Turkey as far as I can tell.

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    @German_reader

    Nothing so ambitious as that, it would have just been a landgrab invoking Wilsonian Armenia, or something like that. America wasn't exactly pleased with Turkey. Stalin had already established the puppet states of "Republic of Mahabad" and "People's Republic East Azerbaijan" in Iran. Those were only disestablished thanks to the extreme skill of post-war Prime Minister Ahmad Qavam (no American pressure was involved), so Stalin quite reasonably thought he could get away with an Anatolian annexation on a Wilsonian pretext. The USSR ruled over every other majority Turkic nation at the time, so punishing an avowedly pan-Turkist government would also make eminent sense.
    Against the backdrop of the muck in Palestine, the ethnic cleansing of Germans in East Europe and the Indian partition, the loss of some of Turkey's poorest and least-Turkish provinces probably could have gone on relatively unnoticed. Turkey only got into NATO after many strenuous objections, obviously foremost by Greece.

    Keep in mind Turkey declared war Germany in February 1945 only to avoid reprisals, something which neither Spain nor Sweden felt compelled to do. It was probably only the bomb that stopped Stalin in the end. Don't forget how active the Russian-funded PKK was even after that.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Sher Singh

  564. @Yevardian
    @German_reader


    Given Putin’s late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s.
     
    Not to engage in my own ethnonarcissim, but if you look at the USSR's Caucasian-policy there was consistent favour of "Azeri" (the ethnic Iranian-Azeri Kasravi wrote comprehensively on just how fake Azeri identity was) Turkic interests, after years of escalating anti-Armenian pogroms, the USSR only finally lost its patience when Azeris began tearing down the USSR-IRan border-fence, demanding unification. USSR couldn't afford such a diplomatic bomb going off and that's when the Soviet army intervened in "Black January".

    In retrospect it seems the USSR definitively decided to suppress all Armenian irredentist aspirations when Stalin had to abandon his plans for a post-WWII invasion of Turkey, after it joined NATO. Turkish public opinion, like Sweden, Spain & Iran was overwhelmingly pro-Axis, but their governments wisely didn't want to risk entering the war.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Another Polish Perspective, @Mr. XYZ

    Iran public opinion wasn’t overwhelmingly pro-Axis. Shah was, but also not overwhelmingly. Otherwise he would have joined ‘Messiah Hitler, the Twelfth Imam”. You do join a messiah, don’t you ?!

    BTW, Poles were treated very well by Iranians during WWII (they moved there temporarily from Soviet Union on the basis of Sikorski-Mayski agreement).

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    @Another Polish Perspective

    True believers like Davud Monshizadeh (Sher Singh should read about him) aside, it wasn't really ideological, just feelings of wanting self-preservation, with British Iraq, Bahrain & India to the East, West & South, and the USSR to the north.


    ‘Messiah Hitler, the Twelfth Imam”
     
    Doubt that, Reza Khan Shah wasn't merely anti-clerical as later Arab Baathists were, but even privately held vehemently anti-Islamic beliefs in the same manner Mustafa Kemal did. The former Mazanderani peasant and cossack officer actually hired for himself a group of private tutors to teach him about pre-Islamic Iranian history and Zoroastrianism. The last Qajars flirted with some Achaemenid imagery but it really only took off under the Pahlavis. (Actually, Reza Khan's adopted dynastic name "Pahlavi" was probably a modification of the name of the Mazandari tribe he belonged to, but in Persian proper "palani" has almost identical pronunciation to "donkey-saddle", so he took the name of Sasanian noble house instead.)
    Continuing on from that, Reza Khan had originally planned on following Kemal further in declaring a Republic, but opposition from both Qajar-era nobility and the religious establishment was so overwhelming he decided it would be far easier to declare himself Shah in by then impotent Qajars' place instead.

    Unfortunately the subsequent Anglo-Soviet occupation, chaotic Mossadeq era (who was forced into an alliance with the Ulama, who later backstabbed him), and the Pahlavi's return to power via America coup meant that Mohamad Pahlavi never had the same mandate or popular backing to finish his father's work and wipe out Islam in Iranian public life for good. But unfortunately Islamists seem like cockroaches, short of extreme measures they always seem to come back, even Turkey is sliding back into medievalism now.
  565. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    ...Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity
     
    Nonsense. Ukraine is much larger and much closer to the Russian core region. Get a map, it is rather obvious. Kiev has also shown implacable hostility to anything Russian ("kill the Moskali") and has been in a de facto state of war with Russia since 2014.

    None of the other NATO states come close to that combination of threats. It is the difference between threat from Cuba and a threat from Mexico or Quebec. It is an order of magnitude worse threat and Russia made clear that they saw it that way.

    Why couldn't Biden-BoJo-Zelko-NATO simply issue a statement in January 2022 that "Ukraine will not join NATO" - instead they publicly insisted that it will. It is up to each country to decide the level of threat they will tolerate: Latvia is harmless, so is Finland, but Ukraine is obviously not. They have shown since 2022 that they are willing to do just about anything to Russia. In fact, they are retroactively showing that Russia wasn't irrational seeing Kiev as a threat.

    Replies: @AP

    …Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity

    Ukraine is much larger

    Irrelevant, since NATO operates as a bloc. You aren’t worried that Ukraine alone would conquer Russia if Ukriane were a NATO member, I assume you aren’t that crazy or stupid.

    and much closer to the Russian core region

    Nonsense. Russia’s core region can be considered either Moscow (maybe include Peter too since it is the 2nd largest city) or the upper Volga, extending eastwards into the Urals. It’s most economically important regions are gas fields in northern Siberia.

    Russia’s second largest city Saint Petersburg is right next to the Baltics and Finland. 154 km from Saint Petersburg to the Estonian border. 200 km to the Finnish border.

    There isn’t much difference distance-wise from Finland/Baltics to Russia’s core demographic areas.

    The Ukrainian border is only 80 km closer to Moscow than the Latvian border.
    Russia’s demographic center is in Izhevsk. This city is about 1700km from the Ukrainian border and 1800 from the Latvian border.

    Norway, Canada, and the USA are far closer to Russia’s gas producing arctic regions.

    Get a map, it is rather obvious

    Do you not know how to read maps?

    It is the difference between threat from Cuba and a threat from Mexico or Quebec

    America tolerated a hostile Canada for decades in the 19th century. Canadians burned the White House in 1812.

    Mexico’s population is about 39% of America’s population.

    Ukraine’s population is about 22% of Russia’s population.

    They have shown since 2022 that they are willing to do just about anything to Russia.

    Fight back when someone invades them.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    You wrote rather desperate arguments. So "Siberia" is the core region of Russia because of "gas"? Latvia is as dangerous as Ukraine? Ukraine is about 20 times the size of Latvia. Volga region, Rostov, Krasnodar and southern Russia, Voronezh, etc...are not core regions of Russia? You know better.

    Regarding the threat from Nato in Ukraine: Ukraine was an openly hostile, large country where the folklore was to "kill the Moskali", government bombed its Russian minority in Donbass killing 3k civilians - nothing similar will ever exist in Finland and the Balts, as mad as they are, are tiny and irrelevant.

    You are right about one thing: "NATO operates as a bloc."

    That means any threat from NATO is cumulative, adding Ukraine was the the red line. In any crisis in the future and instability in Russia (there will be some) the ability to threaten and project close-in force could be decisive - leaving Russia only the choice of using the nukes. They may hesitate or pull back. That's what the mad neo-cons counted on - to corner and weaken Russia, put it in a position that Russia can be dictated to.

    Russia decided that preventing it - Nato in Ukraine posing constant danger - was worth the war. They are winning and Nato is out so that decision will probably turn out to be correct. The fact that it is hard changes nothing - if having Kiev in Nato was deemed to be a mortal danger any sacrifice will be worth it. Kiev and the West knew this and decided to try to bluff Russia - now they are sorry. But narcissists never admit an error so you will lie your way to some mental peace. But it changes nothing.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    , @QCIC
    @AP

    NATO (the USA) has more military-industrial might than Russia. However, most of this capability cannot be applied directly to Western adventures in Ukraine without a major escalation. If there is an escalation by the West, what are the limits? If the USA is delivering mass military shipments into Europe to attack Russia does it mean the Western ships and aircraft become valid targets? So far they are not on the menu, but Russian submarines can be used if it comes to that. So NATO prefers the proxy war on Russia's border. This strategy does not take advantage of NATO capabilities but does play to Russian strengths. Russia doesn't need to outdo NATO production, it just needs to make Ukraine into a killing field until the cannon fodder wakes up and turns their guns on the puppet masters. The Russian industrial base can do that and is probably ready if the West decides to open up another limited combat front or two.

    The purpose of the artillery war is merely to kill Ukrainian armed men so they cannot attack Russia or Russian-speakers. With a normal modern conflict the air war could be much heavier and the number of tank and howitzer rounds should be less important. The West currently has the ability to outproduce Russia in terms of military hardware and supplies. However, the West is part of the global world market and cannot survive without continuous maritime shipments. Europe is the weakest in this regard, China next, then the USA followed by Russia as the most resilient against marine shipping upsets. So there is a lot of pressure from China and Europe and any sensible people to not escalate to the point at which ships are being sunk, cargo rates skyrocket, availability of goods plummet and WW3 starts.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @songbird
    @AP


    Canadians burned the White House in 1812.
     
    excellent revisionism for Operation Rake, but technically they were British troops, and I suspect many had come by way of Bermuda.

    America tolerated a hostile Canada for decades in the 19th century.
     
    But not Irish-Americans, even if their efforts were embarassingly ineffectual.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_raids

    If they had tried 30-40 years later, they might have succeeded.
  566. @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I think that Geraldina's reading comprehension skills are occasionally kind of weak. I don't understand why he can't understand Karlin's account of meeting with you in Moscow? Or even why he questions somebody like you often visiting Moscow, Ukraine, Poland and other parts of Europe too. I believe all of your accounts and am patiently waiting for the day that you invite me to your retirement villa somewhere in Italy? :-)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    10-15 more years or so, if it happens.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I'm just yanking your chain a little bit. But it would be interesting to meet you someday, somebody that I've had a lot of intimate conversations with over 10 years. You certainly know a lot more about me than my next door neighbor does, whose been so for over 10 years too. Probably even more than my sister too. My library is still yours for the asking - I've already paid good money to have my estate planning needs completed by the end of this year.* :-)

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/families-dna-dna_tests-family_life-relations-long_lost_family-jhbn264_low.jpg

    *I'm in good health and all, but one never really knows. I plan to retire in about 2.0 years, and can definitely see myself building up of this library once I do retire even more...

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Have you ever considered South Tyrol as a retirement destination? Or is it too cold for you?

    It's a part of Italy, got a mixed German-Italian culture, and still got a bit of a Hapsburg flavor to it, I suspect.

  567. @German_reader
    @Coconuts


    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.
     
    Given Putin's late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s. Weren't ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this? I suppose someone like Putin who seems somewhat fixated on geopolitical great power competition to the exclusion of everything else might just not care about such demographic changes and their potential consequences. More people might just equal more power for him.
    I'm not sure though Karlin's "Putin is such a boomer, he doesn't even use the internet" was quite the devastating criticism Karlin thought it to be. In the West one can sometimes get the impression that a growing part of the "elites" get their picture of reality from social media and the like (honestly find it shocking what kind of insight you can sometimes get on Twitter in the thought processes and behaviour of journalists and politicians, the kind of people who shape public discourse and make political decisions). That's hardly optimal either.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yevardian, @Beckow, @Coconuts

    …Weren’t ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this?

    In the 1980’s people of Slav or Euro origin were around 80-85% of SU. But the comparisons with today’s Russia need to be more precise: there is a large Caucasian population of Georgians, Armenians, Chechens, Dagis…, Finno-Ugric nations, Tatars-Bashkirs. They are all effectively white Euro nations with a different religion (not always). Large portion of the Central Asians in Russia is less Third World than the migrants to Europe – mixed Russian-German-Koreans-Turks. I have met Uzbeks from Samarkand who are way preferable to LA mestizos or Indians.

    What ruins demography are too many Africans, Indians-Pakis, poor Middle Easterners and Chinese. Russia doesn’t have them, but many Euro nations are overrun by them – and they keep on coming. Religion? Well, it’s too late for that and accommodation with Islam or Buddhists is easier than fixing urban decay, crime, welfare poverty.

    The world has changed and the best we can hope for is some balance. We need to focus on what groups cause most damage: the Subcontinent Indians (e.g. in Britain), the Merkel migrants, Africans, in US the millions crossing through the southern border. Compared to that Eastern Europe is unscathed, and Russia too. Not ideal, but still manageable.

  568. @AP
    @Beckow


    …Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity

    Ukraine is much larger
     
    Irrelevant, since NATO operates as a bloc. You aren't worried that Ukraine alone would conquer Russia if Ukriane were a NATO member, I assume you aren't that crazy or stupid.

    and much closer to the Russian core region
     
    Nonsense. Russia's core region can be considered either Moscow (maybe include Peter too since it is the 2nd largest city) or the upper Volga, extending eastwards into the Urals. It's most economically important regions are gas fields in northern Siberia.

    Russia's second largest city Saint Petersburg is right next to the Baltics and Finland. 154 km from Saint Petersburg to the Estonian border. 200 km to the Finnish border.

    There isn't much difference distance-wise from Finland/Baltics to Russia's core demographic areas.

    The Ukrainian border is only 80 km closer to Moscow than the Latvian border.
    Russia's demographic center is in Izhevsk. This city is about 1700km from the Ukrainian border and 1800 from the Latvian border.

    Norway, Canada, and the USA are far closer to Russia's gas producing arctic regions.

    Get a map, it is rather obvious
     
    Do you not know how to read maps?

    It is the difference between threat from Cuba and a threat from Mexico or Quebec
     
    America tolerated a hostile Canada for decades in the 19th century. Canadians burned the White House in 1812.

    Mexico's population is about 39% of America's population.

    Ukraine's population is about 22% of Russia's population.

    They have shown since 2022 that they are willing to do just about anything to Russia.
     
    Fight back when someone invades them.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @songbird

    You wrote rather desperate arguments. So “Siberia” is the core region of Russia because of “gas”? Latvia is as dangerous as Ukraine? Ukraine is about 20 times the size of Latvia. Volga region, Rostov, Krasnodar and southern Russia, Voronezh, etc…are not core regions of Russia? You know better.

    Regarding the threat from Nato in Ukraine: Ukraine was an openly hostile, large country where the folklore was to “kill the Moskali”, government bombed its Russian minority in Donbass killing 3k civilians – nothing similar will ever exist in Finland and the Balts, as mad as they are, are tiny and irrelevant.

    You are right about one thing: “NATO operates as a bloc.

    That means any threat from NATO is cumulative, adding Ukraine was the the red line. In any crisis in the future and instability in Russia (there will be some) the ability to threaten and project close-in force could be decisive – leaving Russia only the choice of using the nukes. They may hesitate or pull back. That’s what the mad neo-cons counted on – to corner and weaken Russia, put it in a position that Russia can be dictated to.

    Russia decided that preventing it – Nato in Ukraine posing constant danger – was worth the war. They are winning and Nato is out so that decision will probably turn out to be correct. The fact that it is hard changes nothing – if having Kiev in Nato was deemed to be a mortal danger any sacrifice will be worth it. Kiev and the West knew this and decided to try to bluff Russia – now they are sorry. But narcissists never admit an error so you will lie your way to some mental peace. But it changes nothing.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Ukraine is about 20 times the size of Latvia.
     
    Used to be in Soviet times. Not anymore. Despite dramatic population fight from Latvia, Ukies outdid them in mismanagement. Today Ukraine is only ten times the size of Latvia in population.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    You wrote rather desperate and openly lying arguments. So “Siberia” is the core region of Russia because of “gas”?
     
    Define "core region."

    Demographically the core region is from Moscow to the Volga, and perhaps to the Urals from there. Russia's demographic center is in Izhevsk.

    Economically it may be Siberia.

    Or Latvia is as dangerous as Ukraine?
     
    They are both non-dangerous to Russia alone.

    And the Volga region, Rostov, Krasnodar and southern Russia, Voronezh, etc…are not according you the core regions
     
    Not the core regions of Russia. Krasnodar doesn't even have a million people. NATO member Turkey is closer to Sochi than is Ukraine.

    Regarding the threat from Nato in Ukraine: Ukraine was an openly hostile, large country where the folklore was to “kill the Moskali
     
    People in large countries can say many things. But you are lying as usual.

    Ukrainians liked Russia until Russia took Crimea. Then slowly Ukrainians started to like Russia again (not as much as before Crimea was taken) until Russia invaded:

    https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1112&page=1

    https://www.kiis.com.ua/materials/pr/20220526_dyn/e01.JPG

    Thanks to Russia's invasion, Ukrainians now hate Russia more than they ever did.

    That means any threat from NATO is cumulative, adding Ukraine
     
    Adding Ukraine didn't add much to the cumulative threat, the country wasn't much compared to the USA or even France or Turkey. It might be now though. Russia's invasion has forced Ukraine to develop a powerful military.

    But NATO as a group could operate from Finland as easily as it can from Ukraine. The fact that Finland is smaller than Ukraine doesn't make its membership any less of a threat. Russia's second city is only 200 km from Finland.

    Russia decided that preventing that – preventing Nato in Ukraine posing constant danger – was worth the war.
     
    Russia invaded to prevent Ukraine from binding itself to the West and permanently exiting Russia.

    They are winning and Nato is effectively out
     
    NATO wasn't in Ukraine before, and it isn't now.

    You like to say that they kept declaring that Ukraine would be in NATO.

    Has NATO stopped making those declarations? I don't think so.

    So this hasn't changed.

    What has changed, on the other hand, is that Ukraine is now much more integrated with NATO than it was before. It is using NATO weapons, benefits from NATO advisors, trains more extensively with NATO, etc.

    In any crisis in the future or instability inside Russia (there will be some) the ability to threaten and project close-in force could be decisive
     
    You think it was reasonable (or you think the Russians thought it was reasonable) for Russia to start a major war with 100,000s of dead because:

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table. *

    Based on these collectively improbable events, you find it reasonable to start a major war in Europe with 100,000s dead.

    The reality is: Ukraine was slipping away. It had recovered from the post-Maidan economic crash and was starting to prosper without Russia (remember how you had claimed that Ukraine's economy would not recover for many years - Russians were counting on that, and hoping that this would force Ukraine to turn back). It had avoided the Minsk conditions that were designed to prevent Ukraine from leaving Russia's orbit. The Russian language, linking Ukraine to Russia, was starting to slip away too. Russians foolishly thought that Ukrainians would not really resist an invasion, and they overestimated the power of their own military. It would only get harder later, so they thought to capture Kiev and install their guy in charge of Ukraine. The Russians expected Czechoslovakia 1968, or at worst Iraq 2003. Instead they blundered into a major war with at least 100,000 dead on their side, plus 10,000s of dead Russian-speaking civilians in Ukraine's East. "Saving" them was one of the excuses for the invasion, right? And their infrastructure getting wrecked in Russia itself.

    *And by the way, did you know that the West was able to do plenty of meddling with Russia in the 90s without NATO in Ukraine? Because the type of meddling one does with nuclear countries is not the type that requires an army next door, indeed that is the last thing one would use in such a case.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

  569. @Beckow
    @AP

    You wrote rather desperate arguments. So "Siberia" is the core region of Russia because of "gas"? Latvia is as dangerous as Ukraine? Ukraine is about 20 times the size of Latvia. Volga region, Rostov, Krasnodar and southern Russia, Voronezh, etc...are not core regions of Russia? You know better.

    Regarding the threat from Nato in Ukraine: Ukraine was an openly hostile, large country where the folklore was to "kill the Moskali", government bombed its Russian minority in Donbass killing 3k civilians - nothing similar will ever exist in Finland and the Balts, as mad as they are, are tiny and irrelevant.

    You are right about one thing: "NATO operates as a bloc."

    That means any threat from NATO is cumulative, adding Ukraine was the the red line. In any crisis in the future and instability in Russia (there will be some) the ability to threaten and project close-in force could be decisive - leaving Russia only the choice of using the nukes. They may hesitate or pull back. That's what the mad neo-cons counted on - to corner and weaken Russia, put it in a position that Russia can be dictated to.

    Russia decided that preventing it - Nato in Ukraine posing constant danger - was worth the war. They are winning and Nato is out so that decision will probably turn out to be correct. The fact that it is hard changes nothing - if having Kiev in Nato was deemed to be a mortal danger any sacrifice will be worth it. Kiev and the West knew this and decided to try to bluff Russia - now they are sorry. But narcissists never admit an error so you will lie your way to some mental peace. But it changes nothing.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Ukraine is about 20 times the size of Latvia.

    Used to be in Soviet times. Not anymore. Despite dramatic population fight from Latvia, Ukies outdid them in mismanagement. Today Ukraine is only ten times the size of Latvia in population.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Despite dramatic population fight from Latvia, Ukies outdid them in mismanagement.
     
    I think Latvia is down 2.7 to 1.8 million, Ukieland 51 to maybe 30 million at best...

    It's a downward spiral, I wonder who is going to be the champion: it is between the Balts, Ukraine and Bulgaria. That's how civilizations go down, it's nice to see it in real time.

    They were here once, then they got "freedom", and now they are no more...there is no existence in freedom, most people can't handle it and don't even understand what it is, what is happening to them. It is also elsewhere in the West but in a different manner, they are simply being slowly replaced and marginalized.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  570. @Beckow
    @AP

    You wrote rather desperate arguments. So "Siberia" is the core region of Russia because of "gas"? Latvia is as dangerous as Ukraine? Ukraine is about 20 times the size of Latvia. Volga region, Rostov, Krasnodar and southern Russia, Voronezh, etc...are not core regions of Russia? You know better.

    Regarding the threat from Nato in Ukraine: Ukraine was an openly hostile, large country where the folklore was to "kill the Moskali", government bombed its Russian minority in Donbass killing 3k civilians - nothing similar will ever exist in Finland and the Balts, as mad as they are, are tiny and irrelevant.

    You are right about one thing: "NATO operates as a bloc."

    That means any threat from NATO is cumulative, adding Ukraine was the the red line. In any crisis in the future and instability in Russia (there will be some) the ability to threaten and project close-in force could be decisive - leaving Russia only the choice of using the nukes. They may hesitate or pull back. That's what the mad neo-cons counted on - to corner and weaken Russia, put it in a position that Russia can be dictated to.

    Russia decided that preventing it - Nato in Ukraine posing constant danger - was worth the war. They are winning and Nato is out so that decision will probably turn out to be correct. The fact that it is hard changes nothing - if having Kiev in Nato was deemed to be a mortal danger any sacrifice will be worth it. Kiev and the West knew this and decided to try to bluff Russia - now they are sorry. But narcissists never admit an error so you will lie your way to some mental peace. But it changes nothing.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    You wrote rather desperate and openly lying arguments. So “Siberia” is the core region of Russia because of “gas”?

    Define “core region.”

    Demographically the core region is from Moscow to the Volga, and perhaps to the Urals from there. Russia’s demographic center is in Izhevsk.

    Economically it may be Siberia.

    Or Latvia is as dangerous as Ukraine?

    They are both non-dangerous to Russia alone.

    And the Volga region, Rostov, Krasnodar and southern Russia, Voronezh, etc…are not according you the core regions

    Not the core regions of Russia. Krasnodar doesn’t even have a million people. NATO member Turkey is closer to Sochi than is Ukraine.

    Regarding the threat from Nato in Ukraine: Ukraine was an openly hostile, large country where the folklore was to “kill the Moskali

    People in large countries can say many things. But you are lying as usual.

    Ukrainians liked Russia until Russia took Crimea. Then slowly Ukrainians started to like Russia again (not as much as before Crimea was taken) until Russia invaded:

    https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1112&page=1

    Thanks to Russia’s invasion, Ukrainians now hate Russia more than they ever did.

    That means any threat from NATO is cumulative, adding Ukraine

    Adding Ukraine didn’t add much to the cumulative threat, the country wasn’t much compared to the USA or even France or Turkey. It might be now though. Russia’s invasion has forced Ukraine to develop a powerful military.

    But NATO as a group could operate from Finland as easily as it can from Ukraine. The fact that Finland is smaller than Ukraine doesn’t make its membership any less of a threat. Russia’s second city is only 200 km from Finland.

    Russia decided that preventing that – preventing Nato in Ukraine posing constant danger – was worth the war.

    Russia invaded to prevent Ukraine from binding itself to the West and permanently exiting Russia.

    They are winning and Nato is effectively out

    NATO wasn’t in Ukraine before, and it isn’t now.

    You like to say that they kept declaring that Ukraine would be in NATO.

    Has NATO stopped making those declarations? I don’t think so.

    So this hasn’t changed.

    What has changed, on the other hand, is that Ukraine is now much more integrated with NATO than it was before. It is using NATO weapons, benefits from NATO advisors, trains more extensively with NATO, etc.

    In any crisis in the future or instability inside Russia (there will be some) the ability to threaten and project close-in force could be decisive

    You think it was reasonable (or you think the Russians thought it was reasonable) for Russia to start a major war with 100,000s of dead because:

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table. *

    Based on these collectively improbable events, you find it reasonable to start a major war in Europe with 100,000s dead.

    The reality is: Ukraine was slipping away. It had recovered from the post-Maidan economic crash and was starting to prosper without Russia (remember how you had claimed that Ukraine’s economy would not recover for many years – Russians were counting on that, and hoping that this would force Ukraine to turn back). It had avoided the Minsk conditions that were designed to prevent Ukraine from leaving Russia’s orbit. The Russian language, linking Ukraine to Russia, was starting to slip away too. Russians foolishly thought that Ukrainians would not really resist an invasion, and they overestimated the power of their own military. It would only get harder later, so they thought to capture Kiev and install their guy in charge of Ukraine. The Russians expected Czechoslovakia 1968, or at worst Iraq 2003. Instead they blundered into a major war with at least 100,000 dead on their side, plus 10,000s of dead Russian-speaking civilians in Ukraine’s East. “Saving” them was one of the excuses for the invasion, right? And their infrastructure getting wrecked in Russia itself.

    *And by the way, did you know that the West was able to do plenty of meddling with Russia in the 90s without NATO in Ukraine? Because the type of meddling one does with nuclear countries is not the type that requires an army next door, indeed that is the last thing one would use in such a case.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    It was a done deal that Kiev would join - 80-90% chance - that is not hypothetical. From a national security point of view that is 100% (they are paid to be paranoid).

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    I didn't say "civil war" - I said internal instability. There is 80-90% chance in the next generation in Russia of some internal crisis, e.g. the post-Putin transition. It could be very minor like the last year's "march on Moscow", or very serious.

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table.

    In case of instability in Russia it is 100% that NATO would "wade in" and fund one side or another, stage demonstrations, bribe people...that's what they do, they do it now all over the world. They f...ing boast about it. Are you so naive?

    Based on that, it was 70-80% that next time there is a crisis or instability in Russia, NATO in Ukraine would use its superior position to pressure, threaten and try to dictate to Russia. At that point Russia would have the nukes. Would they use them or would they give in?

    If the war ends in Russian victory it will spare us the unpleasant dilemma...you should be happy about it.

    None of that in "improbable", actually it was more likely to happen than not. But the key point is that the Russian security state had to anticipate it and had to react - it is their job to be paranoid and to prevent bad things. So they did. And once they started the war it is only a question of exactly how they will win - big, small, generous, punitive... Kiev and NATO brought this on themselves, they were giddy with one-sided emotions, forgot to check the maps and weapons supplies - they bluffed and lost.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    , @Derer
    @AP

    Why are you wasting space here with your stupid concocted propaganda material. I can show you hundreds graphs/interviews/surveys refuting your garbage.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

  571. @AP
    @Beckow


    …Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity

    Ukraine is much larger
     
    Irrelevant, since NATO operates as a bloc. You aren't worried that Ukraine alone would conquer Russia if Ukriane were a NATO member, I assume you aren't that crazy or stupid.

    and much closer to the Russian core region
     
    Nonsense. Russia's core region can be considered either Moscow (maybe include Peter too since it is the 2nd largest city) or the upper Volga, extending eastwards into the Urals. It's most economically important regions are gas fields in northern Siberia.

    Russia's second largest city Saint Petersburg is right next to the Baltics and Finland. 154 km from Saint Petersburg to the Estonian border. 200 km to the Finnish border.

    There isn't much difference distance-wise from Finland/Baltics to Russia's core demographic areas.

    The Ukrainian border is only 80 km closer to Moscow than the Latvian border.
    Russia's demographic center is in Izhevsk. This city is about 1700km from the Ukrainian border and 1800 from the Latvian border.

    Norway, Canada, and the USA are far closer to Russia's gas producing arctic regions.

    Get a map, it is rather obvious
     
    Do you not know how to read maps?

    It is the difference between threat from Cuba and a threat from Mexico or Quebec
     
    America tolerated a hostile Canada for decades in the 19th century. Canadians burned the White House in 1812.

    Mexico's population is about 39% of America's population.

    Ukraine's population is about 22% of Russia's population.

    They have shown since 2022 that they are willing to do just about anything to Russia.
     
    Fight back when someone invades them.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @songbird

    NATO (the USA) has more military-industrial might than Russia. However, most of this capability cannot be applied directly to Western adventures in Ukraine without a major escalation. If there is an escalation by the West, what are the limits? If the USA is delivering mass military shipments into Europe to attack Russia does it mean the Western ships and aircraft become valid targets? So far they are not on the menu, but Russian submarines can be used if it comes to that. So NATO prefers the proxy war on Russia’s border. This strategy does not take advantage of NATO capabilities but does play to Russian strengths. Russia doesn’t need to outdo NATO production, it just needs to make Ukraine into a killing field until the cannon fodder wakes up and turns their guns on the puppet masters. The Russian industrial base can do that and is probably ready if the West decides to open up another limited combat front or two.

    The purpose of the artillery war is merely to kill Ukrainian armed men so they cannot attack Russia or Russian-speakers. With a normal modern conflict the air war could be much heavier and the number of tank and howitzer rounds should be less important. The West currently has the ability to outproduce Russia in terms of military hardware and supplies. However, the West is part of the global world market and cannot survive without continuous maritime shipments. Europe is the weakest in this regard, China next, then the USA followed by Russia as the most resilient against marine shipping upsets. So there is a lot of pressure from China and Europe and any sensible people to not escalate to the point at which ships are being sunk, cargo rates skyrocket, availability of goods plummet and WW3 starts.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    So NATO prefers the proxy war on Russia’s border. This strategy does not take advantage of NATO capabilities but does play to Russian strengths.
     
    The NATO satellite network is going 24/7 against Russia. Does Russia have ability to shoot down NATO satellites? There are so many ways for this to get very ugly very fast the mind boggles.
  572. @German_reader
    @Coconuts


    But Karlin might have been right about the extent of boomer influences in the RF (he was writing about this in his manifesto) and post-WW2 boomer ideology in Europe always seems to have this weird effect of favouring Islam and Muslims in the long run.
     
    Given Putin's late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s. Weren't ethnic Russians and other Slavs only around 50% by the end or am I misremembering this? I suppose someone like Putin who seems somewhat fixated on geopolitical great power competition to the exclusion of everything else might just not care about such demographic changes and their potential consequences. More people might just equal more power for him.
    I'm not sure though Karlin's "Putin is such a boomer, he doesn't even use the internet" was quite the devastating criticism Karlin thought it to be. In the West one can sometimes get the impression that a growing part of the "elites" get their picture of reality from social media and the like (honestly find it shocking what kind of insight you can sometimes get on Twitter in the thought processes and behaviour of journalists and politicians, the kind of people who shape public discourse and make political decisions). That's hardly optimal either.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yevardian, @Beckow, @Coconuts

    Given Putin’s late Soviet background this might not be surprising.

    Yes, I was thinking about the anti-colonial movement in the decades immediately after 1945 as well, part of the inspiration for that came from the Soviet example (I think you see that in Sartre, Fanon etc.). As the boomers got older and generally wealthier the socialist elements seemed to drop away, but the anti-colonial and anti-racist themes remained.

  573. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Yevardian

    Iran public opinion wasn't overwhelmingly pro-Axis. Shah was, but also not overwhelmingly. Otherwise he would have joined 'Messiah Hitler, the Twelfth Imam". You do join a messiah, don't you ?!

    BTW, Poles were treated very well by Iranians during WWII (they moved there temporarily from Soviet Union on the basis of Sikorski-Mayski agreement).

    Replies: @Yevardian

    True believers like Davud Monshizadeh (Sher Singh should read about him) aside, it wasn’t really ideological, just feelings of wanting self-preservation, with British Iraq, Bahrain & India to the East, West & South, and the USSR to the north.

    ‘Messiah Hitler, the Twelfth Imam”

    Doubt that, Reza Khan Shah wasn’t merely anti-clerical as later Arab Baathists were, but even privately held vehemently anti-Islamic beliefs in the same manner Mustafa Kemal did. The former Mazanderani peasant and cossack officer actually hired for himself a group of private tutors to teach him about pre-Islamic Iranian history and Zoroastrianism. The last Qajars flirted with some Achaemenid imagery but it really only took off under the Pahlavis. (Actually, Reza Khan’s adopted dynastic name “Pahlavi” was probably a modification of the name of the Mazandari tribe he belonged to, but in Persian proper “palani” has almost identical pronunciation to “donkey-saddle”, so he took the name of Sasanian noble house instead.)
    Continuing on from that, Reza Khan had originally planned on following Kemal further in declaring a Republic, but opposition from both Qajar-era nobility and the religious establishment was so overwhelming he decided it would be far easier to declare himself Shah in by then impotent Qajars’ place instead.

    Unfortunately the subsequent Anglo-Soviet occupation, chaotic Mossadeq era (who was forced into an alliance with the Ulama, who later backstabbed him), and the Pahlavi’s return to power via America coup meant that Mohamad Pahlavi never had the same mandate or popular backing to finish his father’s work and wipe out Islam in Iranian public life for good. But unfortunately Islamists seem like cockroaches, short of extreme measures they always seem to come back, even Turkey is sliding back into medievalism now.

  574. @German_reader
    @Yevardian


    when Stalin had to abandon his plans for a post-WWII invasion of Turkey
     
    I remember there was an Armenian commenter ("Avery" iirc) on UR who claimed something like that, but is there actually any evidence Stalin had such designs? Find it a bit hard to believe, seems uncharacteristically audacious. What would have been the rationale for something like that? There wasn't really any prospect of firmly installing a pro-Soviet puppet government in Turkey as far as I can tell.

    Replies: @Yevardian

    Nothing so ambitious as that, it would have just been a landgrab invoking Wilsonian Armenia, or something like that. America wasn’t exactly pleased with Turkey. Stalin had already established the puppet states of “Republic of Mahabad” and “People’s Republic East Azerbaijan” in Iran. Those were only disestablished thanks to the extreme skill of post-war Prime Minister Ahmad Qavam (no American pressure was involved), so Stalin quite reasonably thought he could get away with an Anatolian annexation on a Wilsonian pretext. The USSR ruled over every other majority Turkic nation at the time, so punishing an avowedly pan-Turkist government would also make eminent sense.
    Against the backdrop of the muck in Palestine, the ethnic cleansing of Germans in East Europe and the Indian partition, the loss of some of Turkey’s poorest and least-Turkish provinces probably could have gone on relatively unnoticed. Turkey only got into NATO after many strenuous objections, obviously foremost by Greece.

    Keep in mind Turkey declared war Germany in February 1945 only to avoid reprisals, something which neither Spain nor Sweden felt compelled to do. It was probably only the bomb that stopped Stalin in the end. Don’t forget how active the Russian-funded PKK was even after that.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Yevardian


    Stalin had already established the puppet states of “Republic of Mahabad” and “People’s Republic East Azerbaijan” in Iran.
     
    iirc that was as a consequence of the intervention (in conjunction with the British) during WW2 though; presumably doing something similar to Turkey after the war would have been more difficult. But interesting alt-history scenario, thanks for your comment.
    Btw, regarding Sweden during WW2

    this seemed like a decent enough (if somewhat boring) study to me:
    https://www.amazon.de/Sweden-Swastika-Stalin-Experience-Societies/dp/0748627464
    Fairly sympathetic towards Sweden. I guess a more critical treatment would be possible, but I don't think one can say Sweden was explicitly pro-Axis in the way Spain was, the context was very different.
    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Yevardian


    the loss of some of Turkey’s poorest and least-Turkish provinces probably could have gone on relatively unnoticed.
     
    They were already solidly Turkish by the 1940s, no? Here's 1960s Turkish census data, after all:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/855srt/map_of_turkish_as_mother_language_in_1965_turkey/

    Most of the non-Turks in eastern and southern Turkey in 1965 were Kurds:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LinguisticMaps/comments/151u6cj/proportion_of_people_speaking_kurdish_zaza_in/
    , @Sher Singh
    @Yevardian

    Could just make another discord for karlin folks.
    The strains of autism can have own channels.

    Barbarossa has my email and also Yahya's.
    Wanna join an email thread?

    Replies: @Yevardian

  575. @AP
    @Beckow


    …Ukraine wouldn’t be a greater threat to Russia then any of the other NATO countries that now are in close proximity

    Ukraine is much larger
     
    Irrelevant, since NATO operates as a bloc. You aren't worried that Ukraine alone would conquer Russia if Ukriane were a NATO member, I assume you aren't that crazy or stupid.

    and much closer to the Russian core region
     
    Nonsense. Russia's core region can be considered either Moscow (maybe include Peter too since it is the 2nd largest city) or the upper Volga, extending eastwards into the Urals. It's most economically important regions are gas fields in northern Siberia.

    Russia's second largest city Saint Petersburg is right next to the Baltics and Finland. 154 km from Saint Petersburg to the Estonian border. 200 km to the Finnish border.

    There isn't much difference distance-wise from Finland/Baltics to Russia's core demographic areas.

    The Ukrainian border is only 80 km closer to Moscow than the Latvian border.
    Russia's demographic center is in Izhevsk. This city is about 1700km from the Ukrainian border and 1800 from the Latvian border.

    Norway, Canada, and the USA are far closer to Russia's gas producing arctic regions.

    Get a map, it is rather obvious
     
    Do you not know how to read maps?

    It is the difference between threat from Cuba and a threat from Mexico or Quebec
     
    America tolerated a hostile Canada for decades in the 19th century. Canadians burned the White House in 1812.

    Mexico's population is about 39% of America's population.

    Ukraine's population is about 22% of Russia's population.

    They have shown since 2022 that they are willing to do just about anything to Russia.
     
    Fight back when someone invades them.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @songbird

    Canadians burned the White House in 1812.

    excellent revisionism for Operation Rake, but technically they were British troops, and I suspect many had come by way of Bermuda.

    America tolerated a hostile Canada for decades in the 19th century.

    But not Irish-Americans, even if their efforts were embarassingly ineffectual.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_raids

    If they had tried 30-40 years later, they might have succeeded.

  576. @QCIC
    @AP

    NATO (the USA) has more military-industrial might than Russia. However, most of this capability cannot be applied directly to Western adventures in Ukraine without a major escalation. If there is an escalation by the West, what are the limits? If the USA is delivering mass military shipments into Europe to attack Russia does it mean the Western ships and aircraft become valid targets? So far they are not on the menu, but Russian submarines can be used if it comes to that. So NATO prefers the proxy war on Russia's border. This strategy does not take advantage of NATO capabilities but does play to Russian strengths. Russia doesn't need to outdo NATO production, it just needs to make Ukraine into a killing field until the cannon fodder wakes up and turns their guns on the puppet masters. The Russian industrial base can do that and is probably ready if the West decides to open up another limited combat front or two.

    The purpose of the artillery war is merely to kill Ukrainian armed men so they cannot attack Russia or Russian-speakers. With a normal modern conflict the air war could be much heavier and the number of tank and howitzer rounds should be less important. The West currently has the ability to outproduce Russia in terms of military hardware and supplies. However, the West is part of the global world market and cannot survive without continuous maritime shipments. Europe is the weakest in this regard, China next, then the USA followed by Russia as the most resilient against marine shipping upsets. So there is a lot of pressure from China and Europe and any sensible people to not escalate to the point at which ships are being sunk, cargo rates skyrocket, availability of goods plummet and WW3 starts.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    So NATO prefers the proxy war on Russia’s border. This strategy does not take advantage of NATO capabilities but does play to Russian strengths.

    The NATO satellite network is going 24/7 against Russia. Does Russia have ability to shoot down NATO satellites? There are so many ways for this to get very ugly very fast the mind boggles.

    • Agree: QCIC
  577. @sudden death
    Guess the credit for this may go to Mike Johnson as well, who always publicly demanded a new clearly written strategy for action in UA, however doubt he'll will like below given proposals that much;)

    According to U.S. officials, the American document will guarantee support for short-term military operations as well as build a future Ukrainian military force that can deter Russian aggression. It will include specific promises and programs to help protect, reconstitute and expand Ukraine’s industrial and export base, and assist the country with political reforms needed for full integration into Western institutions.

    Not incidentally, a U.S. official said, the hope is that the long-term promise — again assuming congressional buy-in — will also “future-proof” aid for Ukraine against the possibility that former president Donald Trump wins his reelection bid.

    As the White House continues to try to persuade lawmakers, a second senior administration official emphasized that the strategy doesn’t mean that the Ukrainians are just going to build their own defensive trenches “and sit behind them” all year. “There is still going to be swapping of territory” in small cities and villages with minimal strategic value, “missile launches and drones” from both sides, and Russian “attacks on civilian infrastructure,” this official said.
    .......................
    The U.S. document, according to U.S. officials closely involved in the planning, is being written with four phases in mind: fight, build, recover and reform.

    What is needed most immediately for the “fight” phase is “artillery ammunition, some replacement of vehicles” lost in the counteroffensive, “a lot more drones,” said Eric Ciaramella, a former CIA intelligence analyst and now a senior fellow in the Russia and Eurasia program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, who has consulted with administration officials. “A lot of electronic warfare and counter-drone technology — where the Russians have achieved an edge. They need more air defense systems to cover more cities.”

    Although Ukraine is still anxiously awaiting the promised delivery of fighter aircraft and more armored vehicles this year, these are “expensive systems with single points of failure,” Ciaramella said. “I think the Ukrainians are realizing there is no silver bullet, having seen a million-dollar tank destroyed by a $10,000 mine” during the counteroffensive.

    The “build” phase of the strategy is focused on pledges for Ukraine’s future security force on land, sea and air, so that the Ukrainians “can see what they’re getting from the global community over a 10-year period and ... come out of 2024 with a road map to a highly deterrent military,” the first senior administration official said. At the same time, some of the requested supplemental money is targeted at developing Ukraine’s industrial base for weapons production that, along with U.S. and allied increases, can “at least keep pace with Russian” production.

    The plan also includes additional air defense to create protective “bubbles” around Ukrainian cities beyond Kyiv and Odessa and to allow key parts of the Ukrainian economy and exports, including steel and agriculture, to recover. Biden last fall named former commerce secretary Penny Pritzker as U.S. envoy to lead an effort to rebuild Ukraine’s economy and mobilize public and private investment.

    Enticing foreign investment back into Ukraine will also require additional efforts to stem corruption, U.S. officials acknowledge. Zelensky has taken some steps, including firing and in some cases arresting allegedly corrupt military procurement officials and judges; other initiatives have been demanded by the European Union as it considers eventual E.U. membership for Ukraine.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/26/ukraine-war-plan-biden-defense/

    Replies: @A123

    Credit to Mike Johnson for keeping his eye on the ball: (1)

    House Speaker Mike Johnson has dispelled President Joe Biden’s absolute lie that Congress needs to act to pass a $110 billion aid package which would include money for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan – a bill, mind you, that would still allow as many as 150,000 illegal crossings per month, or 1.8 million per year, before any of the proposed border shutdown authorities would be triggered.

    “President Biden falsely claimed yesterday he needs Congress to pass a new law to allow him to close the southern border, but he knows that is untrue,” said Johnson.

    “As I explained to him in a letter late last year, and have specifically reiterated to him on multiple occasions since, he can and must take executive action immediately to reverse the catastrophe he has created.”

    David Sacks breaks things down perfectly (via X):

    WHAT’S REALLY HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON

    Neocons had a problem. The big Spring-Summer Counteroffensive, which was supposed to kick the Russians out of Ukraine, was a miserable failure. Even TIME Magazine was reporting that Zelensky is delusional, the Ukrainians are running out of soldiers, and Ukrainian officials are stealing like there’s no tomorrow.

    House Republicans, fearing their base, began to have cold feet about throwing more money down this bottomless pit. So Biden and the Neocons came up with a plan: package Ukraine aid with border security. Each side would get want it wants.

    But Senate RINOs couldn’t help themselves — they turned the border security provisions into an amnesty bill.

    Meanwhile Biden picked a fight with Texas over what little remains of our border security, reminding Republicans that he can’t be trusted to faithfully execute the law. So now the deal has fallen apart.

    So what is the Administration to do? There’s only ever one answer for that: blame Trump. Supposedly he is responsible for Ukraine losing the war AND the southern border being overrun. In reality, Biden and his handlers have nobody to blame but themselves for both policies.

    Shakespeare put it best: “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves.”

    The Veggie-In-Chief’s “Ukraine Plan” is laughably unworkable. It has no chance of passing, even as part of a deal with other topics.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/lyin-biden-speaker-johnson-debunks-need-pass-ukraine-israel-funds-securing-border

  578. @Gerard1234
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    You sound too smart to be deceived by this ultra retarded fake. What is wrong with you?

    1. Absolutely ZERO document exists in Russian/Soviet bureaucracy saying "R.S.F.S.R", its all RSFSR, USSR i.e without the dot. That prove to me it's some anglo-American or some Banderite or Polish diaspora f**kup completely ignorant of basic Soviet things making an obvious error

    2. Where is the mythical city of "Leningra" - typing mistake without the D at the end, but unlikely, more just further proving of the incompetence of western fakers

    3. The writing at the side and the mention of him reaching 45 indicates this is a Russian Federation (not USSR document) so there is no reason for Leningrad to even be mentioned ( though I suppose maybe workers at FMS may have allowed this type of thing).

    4. Jew (yevreika) should have a capital letter - individually a minor thing, but with the other typing errors, it just confirms all of it is some idiotic farce

    5. Shelomov is 100% Slavic/Russian name. Rules for this followed not just self-identification ( as they could if somebody claiming Ukrop or Russian) ......but on strict Jewish hereditary rule on only classifying if the mother was Jewish. Can't be bothered because I know this thing is fake, but would be sure that Putins mother's mother has not found to be listed as Jewish.

    6. From my experience Leningrad ,the city, was always separate in administration documents from Leningrad Oblast ( must like now with Moscow and Moscow Oblast and SP with Leningrad Oblast)

    7. The photo

    8. Can't be sure of date from that photo - but at this time he is either head of FSB or PM



    There’s something his one-time patron being Jew oligarch Berezovsky.
     
    And then his one-time enemy who he (correctly) tried to have jailed. VVP isn't antisemitic, which is a good thing. He has jailed and tried to jail 3 criminal Jewish oligarchs in Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and Gusinsky......which is great

    There’s also a Georgian woman saying at the end that she’s his real mother.
     
    That's of course also amusing nonsense

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Putina’s maiden name is Shelomova, or “Solomon”, no? I don’t have a view on this.

    He has jailed and tried to jail 3 criminal Jewish oligarchs in Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and Gusinsky……which is great

    That channel is strongly pro-Putin and says that.

    The context is that a lot Chinese viewed Putin as a trad Orthodox tsar, and were cheering on SMO as sticking it to Jew USA and Jew Zelensky.

    He’s saying that’s neither-here-nor-there, since Putin himself might be part Jewish, and as others pointed out some in his close circle are.

  579. I dislike the theory that the big religious flood myths are all derived from some prehistoric folklore originating in witnesses to some gigantic ice dam (or dams, as one in North America too) giving way.

    Seems to be a flight of fancy, extolling man’s memory but damning his imagination. As well as an urban, post-industrial mindset that never saw a stream or river in flood and never had one’s food supply imperiled by it.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @songbird

    I agree. Floods were among the most frequent "bad" events that our ancestors experienced. They were very destructive to a farming community or even to shepherds who would lose a lot. It happened again and again, so they remembered it.

    It got conflated into a single "big flood" in retelling - narratives tend to be like that (I also think Homer merged a number of separate wars and events and put them together.) So religions picked it up. They were always looking for good stories and a flood is a great one, one can elaborate, fabulate, exaggerate, etc...

    The rule of thumb is that lying increases with geographic distance and over time. Stories told by people from far away about stuff long time ago are mostly lies. The stuff happening around us today is much harder to make up....religions thrive on that concept. It is always some vague story from long time ago that is unverifiable. They are hustlers.

    It was a long time ago and it wasn't true anyway....

  580. @AP
    @Beckow


    You wrote rather desperate and openly lying arguments. So “Siberia” is the core region of Russia because of “gas”?
     
    Define "core region."

    Demographically the core region is from Moscow to the Volga, and perhaps to the Urals from there. Russia's demographic center is in Izhevsk.

    Economically it may be Siberia.

    Or Latvia is as dangerous as Ukraine?
     
    They are both non-dangerous to Russia alone.

    And the Volga region, Rostov, Krasnodar and southern Russia, Voronezh, etc…are not according you the core regions
     
    Not the core regions of Russia. Krasnodar doesn't even have a million people. NATO member Turkey is closer to Sochi than is Ukraine.

    Regarding the threat from Nato in Ukraine: Ukraine was an openly hostile, large country where the folklore was to “kill the Moskali
     
    People in large countries can say many things. But you are lying as usual.

    Ukrainians liked Russia until Russia took Crimea. Then slowly Ukrainians started to like Russia again (not as much as before Crimea was taken) until Russia invaded:

    https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1112&page=1

    https://www.kiis.com.ua/materials/pr/20220526_dyn/e01.JPG

    Thanks to Russia's invasion, Ukrainians now hate Russia more than they ever did.

    That means any threat from NATO is cumulative, adding Ukraine
     
    Adding Ukraine didn't add much to the cumulative threat, the country wasn't much compared to the USA or even France or Turkey. It might be now though. Russia's invasion has forced Ukraine to develop a powerful military.

    But NATO as a group could operate from Finland as easily as it can from Ukraine. The fact that Finland is smaller than Ukraine doesn't make its membership any less of a threat. Russia's second city is only 200 km from Finland.

    Russia decided that preventing that – preventing Nato in Ukraine posing constant danger – was worth the war.
     
    Russia invaded to prevent Ukraine from binding itself to the West and permanently exiting Russia.

    They are winning and Nato is effectively out
     
    NATO wasn't in Ukraine before, and it isn't now.

    You like to say that they kept declaring that Ukraine would be in NATO.

    Has NATO stopped making those declarations? I don't think so.

    So this hasn't changed.

    What has changed, on the other hand, is that Ukraine is now much more integrated with NATO than it was before. It is using NATO weapons, benefits from NATO advisors, trains more extensively with NATO, etc.

    In any crisis in the future or instability inside Russia (there will be some) the ability to threaten and project close-in force could be decisive
     
    You think it was reasonable (or you think the Russians thought it was reasonable) for Russia to start a major war with 100,000s of dead because:

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table. *

    Based on these collectively improbable events, you find it reasonable to start a major war in Europe with 100,000s dead.

    The reality is: Ukraine was slipping away. It had recovered from the post-Maidan economic crash and was starting to prosper without Russia (remember how you had claimed that Ukraine's economy would not recover for many years - Russians were counting on that, and hoping that this would force Ukraine to turn back). It had avoided the Minsk conditions that were designed to prevent Ukraine from leaving Russia's orbit. The Russian language, linking Ukraine to Russia, was starting to slip away too. Russians foolishly thought that Ukrainians would not really resist an invasion, and they overestimated the power of their own military. It would only get harder later, so they thought to capture Kiev and install their guy in charge of Ukraine. The Russians expected Czechoslovakia 1968, or at worst Iraq 2003. Instead they blundered into a major war with at least 100,000 dead on their side, plus 10,000s of dead Russian-speaking civilians in Ukraine's East. "Saving" them was one of the excuses for the invasion, right? And their infrastructure getting wrecked in Russia itself.

    *And by the way, did you know that the West was able to do plenty of meddling with Russia in the 90s without NATO in Ukraine? Because the type of meddling one does with nuclear countries is not the type that requires an army next door, indeed that is the last thing one would use in such a case.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    It was a done deal that Kiev would join – 80-90% chance – that is not hypothetical. From a national security point of view that is 100% (they are paid to be paranoid).

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    I didn’t say “civil war” – I said internal instability. There is 80-90% chance in the next generation in Russia of some internal crisis, e.g. the post-Putin transition. It could be very minor like the last year’s “march on Moscow”, or very serious.

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table.

    In case of instability in Russia it is 100% that NATO would “wade in” and fund one side or another, stage demonstrations, bribe people…that’s what they do, they do it now all over the world. They f…ing boast about it. Are you so naive?

    Based on that, it was 70-80% that next time there is a crisis or instability in Russia, NATO in Ukraine would use its superior position to pressure, threaten and try to dictate to Russia. At that point Russia would have the nukes. Would they use them or would they give in?

    If the war ends in Russian victory it will spare us the unpleasant dilemma…you should be happy about it.

    None of that in “improbable”, actually it was more likely to happen than not. But the key point is that the Russian security state had to anticipate it and had to react – it is their job to be paranoid and to prevent bad things. So they did. And once they started the war it is only a question of exactly how they will win – big, small, generous, punitive… Kiev and NATO brought this on themselves, they were giddy with one-sided emotions, forgot to check the maps and weapons supplies – they bluffed and lost.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    once they started the war it is only a question of exactly how they will win – big, small, generous, punitive… Kiev and NATO brought this on themselves, they were giddy with one-sided emotions, forgot to check the maps and weapons supplies – they bluffed and lost.
     
    Kyiv and NATO are not responsible for the real or imaginative "internal stability" that you bring up. Every country in the world is subject to these sorts of possibilities. The way to overcome them is not to unleash a stupid war with a neighboring country like Russia has done, but to make living and political conditions better, so that its citizens are content with things as they are, and not interested in any violent societal reengineering projects.

    It is a total falsehood to claim that Kyiv and NATO were "giddy and with one sided emotions" in pursuing this war. Even after the West had warned Ukraine that Russia was poised to invade, it was very slow to respond, more like kicking and dragging its feet to get involved in any big way. How Russia wasn't able to make greater inroads into Ukraine than it did will remain a mystery to all onlookers to this day. They did have the second greatest military in the world, or was it actually the second greatest military within Ukraine?

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    It was a done deal that Kiev would join – 80-90% chance – that is not hypothetical.
     
    It was 100% certain that NATO leaders would keep saying that Ukraine would one day join NATO. They had been doing it for 7 years or so.

    Whether it actually would, or when, is another matter. Maybe in 20 years? 30? Not only would all NATO members have to agree, but Ukraine would have to formally give up its claims to Crimea and Donbas. I remember how the pro-Russians were bragging that by taking Crimea, Russia prevented Ukraine from ever joining NATO Was that a lie? Or is claiming that Ukraine could join NATO any time, without a Crimea resolution, a lie.

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    I didn’t say “civil war” – I said internal instability. There is 80-90% chance in the next generation in Russia of some internal crisis, e.g. the post-Putin transition. It could be very minor like the last year’s “march on Moscow”, or very serious.
     
    Even better. So Russia doesn't have a civil war, its military and state remain intact, but there are civil disturbances - and NATO invades this huge nuke-armed country with an intact military in order to support street protests in Moscow? No one even dared to invade much-weaker, nuke-less Iran during large protests awhile back, but you think that NATO may invade Russia.

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table.

    In case of instability in Russia it is 100% that NATO would “wade in” and fund one side or another, stage demonstrations, bribe people
     
    I obviously meant wade in with its military. Attack. Bribing and funding are another matter, they did it in the 1990s before NATO was in Poland, Ukrainian NATO membership is irrelevant for that.

    None of that in “improbable”, actually it was more likely to happen than not.
     
    Well, let's review:

    1. Ukraine actually joining NATO - improbable, but possible.

    2. Russia having severe civil disturbances - possible

    3. (1) and (2) both being true, and NATO invading with its military from Ukraine in order to take over Russia by installing its preferred government - a crazy fantasy that no sane person believes, including Russian leadership who may be stupid and have dumb assumptions about Ukraine, but are not paranoid schizophrenics.

    For Russia's leadership, the reason for the Ukraine invasion wasn't fear of NATO membership as a risk for an invasion of Russia. It was the false belief that Ukraine was fake and Ukrainians wouldn't fight for it (therefore, that it would be an easy and bloodless invasion, like Czechoslovakia 1968 or at worst Iraq 2003), that delaying an invasion would result in Ukraine moving ever further from Russia economically and culturally, combined with various other factors such as the Biden's administration's weakness as seen in Afghanistan, Western European dependence on Russian gas, history of business as usual with the West after the brief successful Georgian war, other problems vexing the West such as Muslim refugees, etc. And yes, perhaps the chance that if Ukraine did eventually join NATO in 20 or 30 years there would be no chance for invading it. It was a window of opportunity that might not last. So the Russians took it.

    What made this a colossal blunder by the Russian side is that the Ukrainians didn't play along. They fought back, successfully.

    Replies: @Beckow

  581. German_reader says:
    @Yevardian
    @German_reader

    Nothing so ambitious as that, it would have just been a landgrab invoking Wilsonian Armenia, or something like that. America wasn't exactly pleased with Turkey. Stalin had already established the puppet states of "Republic of Mahabad" and "People's Republic East Azerbaijan" in Iran. Those were only disestablished thanks to the extreme skill of post-war Prime Minister Ahmad Qavam (no American pressure was involved), so Stalin quite reasonably thought he could get away with an Anatolian annexation on a Wilsonian pretext. The USSR ruled over every other majority Turkic nation at the time, so punishing an avowedly pan-Turkist government would also make eminent sense.
    Against the backdrop of the muck in Palestine, the ethnic cleansing of Germans in East Europe and the Indian partition, the loss of some of Turkey's poorest and least-Turkish provinces probably could have gone on relatively unnoticed. Turkey only got into NATO after many strenuous objections, obviously foremost by Greece.

    Keep in mind Turkey declared war Germany in February 1945 only to avoid reprisals, something which neither Spain nor Sweden felt compelled to do. It was probably only the bomb that stopped Stalin in the end. Don't forget how active the Russian-funded PKK was even after that.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Sher Singh

    Stalin had already established the puppet states of “Republic of Mahabad” and “People’s Republic East Azerbaijan” in Iran.

    iirc that was as a consequence of the intervention (in conjunction with the British) during WW2 though; presumably doing something similar to Turkey after the war would have been more difficult. But interesting alt-history scenario, thanks for your comment.
    Btw, regarding Sweden during WW2

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    this seemed like a decent enough (if somewhat boring) study to me:

    Fairly sympathetic towards Sweden. I guess a more critical treatment would be possible, but I don’t think one can say Sweden was explicitly pro-Axis in the way Spain was, the context was very different.

  582. @songbird
    I dislike the theory that the big religious flood myths are all derived from some prehistoric folklore originating in witnesses to some gigantic ice dam (or dams, as one in North America too) giving way.

    Seems to be a flight of fancy, extolling man's memory but damning his imagination. As well as an urban, post-industrial mindset that never saw a stream or river in flood and never had one's food supply imperiled by it.

    Replies: @Beckow

    I agree. Floods were among the most frequent “bad” events that our ancestors experienced. They were very destructive to a farming community or even to shepherds who would lose a lot. It happened again and again, so they remembered it.

    It got conflated into a single “big flood” in retelling – narratives tend to be like that (I also think Homer merged a number of separate wars and events and put them together.) So religions picked it up. They were always looking for good stories and a flood is a great one, one can elaborate, fabulate, exaggerate, etc…

    The rule of thumb is that lying increases with geographic distance and over time. Stories told by people from far away about stuff long time ago are mostly lies. The stuff happening around us today is much harder to make up….religions thrive on that concept. It is always some vague story from long time ago that is unverifiable. They are hustlers.

    It was a long time ago and it wasn’t true anyway….

    • Thanks: songbird
  583. @AP
    @Beckow


    You wrote rather desperate and openly lying arguments. So “Siberia” is the core region of Russia because of “gas”?
     
    Define "core region."

    Demographically the core region is from Moscow to the Volga, and perhaps to the Urals from there. Russia's demographic center is in Izhevsk.

    Economically it may be Siberia.

    Or Latvia is as dangerous as Ukraine?
     
    They are both non-dangerous to Russia alone.

    And the Volga region, Rostov, Krasnodar and southern Russia, Voronezh, etc…are not according you the core regions
     
    Not the core regions of Russia. Krasnodar doesn't even have a million people. NATO member Turkey is closer to Sochi than is Ukraine.

    Regarding the threat from Nato in Ukraine: Ukraine was an openly hostile, large country where the folklore was to “kill the Moskali
     
    People in large countries can say many things. But you are lying as usual.

    Ukrainians liked Russia until Russia took Crimea. Then slowly Ukrainians started to like Russia again (not as much as before Crimea was taken) until Russia invaded:

    https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1112&page=1

    https://www.kiis.com.ua/materials/pr/20220526_dyn/e01.JPG

    Thanks to Russia's invasion, Ukrainians now hate Russia more than they ever did.

    That means any threat from NATO is cumulative, adding Ukraine
     
    Adding Ukraine didn't add much to the cumulative threat, the country wasn't much compared to the USA or even France or Turkey. It might be now though. Russia's invasion has forced Ukraine to develop a powerful military.

    But NATO as a group could operate from Finland as easily as it can from Ukraine. The fact that Finland is smaller than Ukraine doesn't make its membership any less of a threat. Russia's second city is only 200 km from Finland.

    Russia decided that preventing that – preventing Nato in Ukraine posing constant danger – was worth the war.
     
    Russia invaded to prevent Ukraine from binding itself to the West and permanently exiting Russia.

    They are winning and Nato is effectively out
     
    NATO wasn't in Ukraine before, and it isn't now.

    You like to say that they kept declaring that Ukraine would be in NATO.

    Has NATO stopped making those declarations? I don't think so.

    So this hasn't changed.

    What has changed, on the other hand, is that Ukraine is now much more integrated with NATO than it was before. It is using NATO weapons, benefits from NATO advisors, trains more extensively with NATO, etc.

    In any crisis in the future or instability inside Russia (there will be some) the ability to threaten and project close-in force could be decisive
     
    You think it was reasonable (or you think the Russians thought it was reasonable) for Russia to start a major war with 100,000s of dead because:

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table. *

    Based on these collectively improbable events, you find it reasonable to start a major war in Europe with 100,000s dead.

    The reality is: Ukraine was slipping away. It had recovered from the post-Maidan economic crash and was starting to prosper without Russia (remember how you had claimed that Ukraine's economy would not recover for many years - Russians were counting on that, and hoping that this would force Ukraine to turn back). It had avoided the Minsk conditions that were designed to prevent Ukraine from leaving Russia's orbit. The Russian language, linking Ukraine to Russia, was starting to slip away too. Russians foolishly thought that Ukrainians would not really resist an invasion, and they overestimated the power of their own military. It would only get harder later, so they thought to capture Kiev and install their guy in charge of Ukraine. The Russians expected Czechoslovakia 1968, or at worst Iraq 2003. Instead they blundered into a major war with at least 100,000 dead on their side, plus 10,000s of dead Russian-speaking civilians in Ukraine's East. "Saving" them was one of the excuses for the invasion, right? And their infrastructure getting wrecked in Russia itself.

    *And by the way, did you know that the West was able to do plenty of meddling with Russia in the 90s without NATO in Ukraine? Because the type of meddling one does with nuclear countries is not the type that requires an army next door, indeed that is the last thing one would use in such a case.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    Why are you wasting space here with your stupid concocted propaganda material. I can show you hundreds graphs/interviews/surveys refuting your garbage.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Derer


    Why are you wasting space here with your stupid concocted propaganda material. I can show you hundreds graphs/interviews/surveys refuting your garbage.
     
    Remember the rule of psychiatrists: never argue with a patient. They know how to deal with mental cases professionally.

    Replies: @Derer

    , @AP
    @Derer

    No you can’t.

  584. Egad! Is this the monstrous animal from whence plague originated?

  585. @Derer
    @AP

    Why are you wasting space here with your stupid concocted propaganda material. I can show you hundreds graphs/interviews/surveys refuting your garbage.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Why are you wasting space here with your stupid concocted propaganda material. I can show you hundreds graphs/interviews/surveys refuting your garbage.

    Remember the rule of psychiatrists: never argue with a patient. They know how to deal with mental cases professionally.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @AnonfromTN

    Mark Twain wisdom is appropriate: "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference"

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  586. @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    Putin may believe he is a tall handsome stallion of a man and with Tolstoy 'that every nation is unique and worthwhile — none better or worse than others.' But he knows there is no one in Washington who who accepts either proposition. They do not think Russia deserves to be conventional- militarily powerful or possess thermonuclear weapons capability comparable to America's, and gloatingly look forward to various national malaises of Russia (economic and demographic) leading to it collapsing as a truely independent power. Ukraine always interested American strategists as a way to help peacefully help the process of Russian decay along while not alarming the Kremlin. It would have worked with someone like Gorby or Yeltsin, who the beltway seem to have assumed were typical post cold war Russian leaders, but Putin was a counter intel specialist: a professional paranoiac.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer, @Mr. Hack

    various national malaises of Russia (economic and demographic) leading to it collapsing as a truely independent power.

    How can you write this slander when, in fact, the US is irreparably polarized and in a deep racial and political quagmire. In fact, is heading on a path to a blue and red divide. The post WWII European brain is dying off and replaced by the generation of drugs and violence incapable to restore the normalcy or previous greatness. China will anytime claim that 33 trillion debt. Running country by borrowing is never smart, ask the Greeks.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Derer

    Kyle Bass


    Jan 18
    The United States 🇺🇸 represents:

    4% of the World Population

    25% of World GDP

    40% of Global Capital Markets

    We have the deepest, most liquid, most trusted capital markets in the world. It’s financial power that remains unmatched. [...]


    “In 15 years, China’s GDP, reported GDP is up over 500%, but if you invested in the Chinese stock market 15 years ago, you’ve lost a third of your money”
     

    Replies: @Derer

  587. @A123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate. Does this look Jewish to you?

     
    https://i0.wp.com/gdb.rferl.org/8EF4874F-A14F-48C8-9331-55B8D2CAF561_w640_s.jpg
     

    Zelensky went to Israel to intentionally offend Palestinian Jews. This was most noted by Likud and the religious parties. They called out anti-Semite Zelensky for his evil (1).

    Realistically, neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if you insist on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate.

    Merely aligning with Nazis doesn’t indict one as a rabid anti-Semite. Half of Europe did in WWII, so did the Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, Chinese and Japanese.

    (Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn’t absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins)

    By the way, what’s the deal with Jackson Hinkle signing up to be a CCP flunkie? “MAGA Communism”?

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    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    (Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn’t absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins)

     

    Some far-right Israeli Jews actually do think rather similarly to Hitler, but with Jews rather than Germans as the master race and with Arabs rather than Jews as the inferior race:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/embracing-racism-rabbis-at-pre-army-yeshiva-laud-hitler-urge-enslaving-arabs/
    , @A123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Merely aligning with Nazis doesn’t indict one as a rabid anti-Semite. Half of Europe did in WWII, so did the Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, Chinese and Japanese.
     
    I concur.

    However, Anti-Semite Zelensky, as President, has command & control authority of his nation's forces including the Azov neo-Nazis. That is much more than "merely aligning".

    An equivalent construct would be, someone with the power & authority to order Hitler to stop who willingly took a pass. Would that make them complicit or an outright Nazi themselves? IMHO, yes it would. This is much more indicative of anti-Semitism.

    Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn’t absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins
     
    Certainly, having genome indicating ancestral links does not prevent anything.

    Converts are some of the most rabid people around. A former Jew who became a post-Judaic apostate would be fertile ground for willing Nazism. Was Hitler's mother an outcast? Such a perceived injustice would also have the potential to cultivate virulent anti-Semitism.
    ___

    My intent is more to debunk the nutters here who claim that Zelensky is the "Jew King of Kiev". Trying to attach Kiev aggression to Judaism simply does not work. Let me return to the essential point needed for understanding the situation in Ukraine.

    Neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if one insists on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

  588. @AnonfromTN
    @Derer


    Why are you wasting space here with your stupid concocted propaganda material. I can show you hundreds graphs/interviews/surveys refuting your garbage.
     
    Remember the rule of psychiatrists: never argue with a patient. They know how to deal with mental cases professionally.

    Replies: @Derer

    Mark Twain wisdom is appropriate: “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference”

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Derer

    "Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw

    George B. S. was talking about some other ethnic style. Not fairies. George B. S. didn't believe in fairies.

  589. So much for the idea that the Chinese can’t get enough of Vin Diesel and the Rock.

    Hollywood doesn’t crack top 11 in China in 2023.
    https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/591344-china-rejects-hollywood-films-barbie/

  590. Never realized this, but apparently the opposum wasn’t even in the Boston area until maybe about the 1940s. Its been moving north, even though it seems to be very poorly adapted for long, cold and snowy winters.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    If you have any holes in the roof they love those.

    Replies: @songbird

  591. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    The point is that the Holly movies and the culture in general have declined. I don't think anyone disputes that, it was often junk before and it got worse. They are riding on de facto monopolies that won't last forever. Same with the Western media - that's why they have become so frantic about any outside competition. The woke and gender nonsense are only among the tools to keep it as a closed shop.


    Wakanda 1 was a hit.
     
    Because it was great. It had many layers - but it was really about showing an African version of the endless white "Wakandas" movies of the past. Or do you actually think that the Anglo "Wakandas" celebrating everything from the world conquest to "winning the WW2 in Normandy" were any less Wakandish? Even a great movie like Casablanca is a silly "Wakanda" story about a loser New York drunk fighting the "Nazis"...and winning!!!

    It has been 'Wakanda' most of the time, Rocky XXX, westerns, the Marvel-Superman nonsense were all Wakanda movies made to celebrate a particular group with fake unreal stories...That's what Hollywood does, why not throw in a few Africans?

    Replies: @silviosilver

    It had many layers – but it was really about showing an African version of the endless white “Wakandas” movies of the past. Or do you actually think that the Anglo “Wakandas” celebrating everything from the world conquest to “winning the WW2 in Normandy” were any less Wakandish?

    Obviously they were less Wakandish. Wakanda was created solely to boost black cultural self-esteem (in the vain hope it’ll improve black life outcomes). Celebratory depictions of American achievements are at least based on something real. But the insinuation that Americans have failed to be self-critical is so self-evidently idiotic (if they haven’t been, then no one has) that only an envy-ridden commie worm would make it.

    Even a great movie like Casablanca is a silly “Wakanda” story about a loser New York drunk fighting the “Nazis”…and winning!!!

    Lol, of all the examples you could have chosen, it’s telling you settle on this one. Yeah we get it, you’re deeply offended by any reference to westerners fighting the Nazis. Bow down and worship the Soviets is the only choice you offer people.

    Well, who knows, with Russians behaving the way they are, maybe westerners will start celebrating their role in WW2 not only as fighting the Nazis but saving the Europe from the commies (aka Russians). A historical distortion? Only slightly, and one I would happily ignore.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @silviosilver


    Well, who knows, with Russians behaving the way they are, maybe westerners will start celebrating their role in WW2 not only as fighting the Nazis but saving the Europe from the commies (aka Russians). A historical distortion? Only slightly, and one I would happily ignore.
     
    It really is amazing just how rapidly Western-Soviet relations deteriorated after WWII. Similar to how Western-Russian relations were relatively warm in the late 1980s and early 1990s and then gradually turned hostile, albeit with full hostility only being reached in 2014 and afterwards.
    , @Beckow
    @silviosilver

    "Casablanca" takes place in Africa and is about as Wakandish as they get: a fairy tale to motivate people and do some self-worship. But if that offends you because of the WW2 theme, how about the Bond movies? Can any movie be any more "Wakanda"? Or Superman if you want an outright "we can also do magic"...

    There are endless examples of Hollywood Wakanda, from most Westerns to "we kicked ass in Afghanistan!" that vary only stylistically (and in quality) from the Afro-Wakanda. Why would you object to your fellow Afros having their own fairy tales with magic and self-celebration?

    WW2 films are a good example, but it is a long time ago - interestingly the real WW2-Wakanda in Hollywood only started decades after 1945. Earlier when people actually remembered it would be too embarrassing. But I see you have no problem with that, narcisisists don't experience shame. So re-write at will, but you can never build stable societies on lies, it always catches up.

  592. @A123
    @LondonBob


    That Kari Lake story deserves greater attention. Pretty obvious the GOP assisted the Democrats in rigging the election for Governor against her, looks like they are less confident they could do so again with a Senate race.
     
    I agree.

    The Uniparty liked controlling both "sides". The change of the GOP breaks their system. Everyone serious understands that vote rigging is real, and is not just aimed at Trump. Kari Lake was clearly targeted too. However, they can only cheat so much without undermining themselves. So, they attempted bribery: (1)

    The Daily Mail is reporting on a story where Arizona Republican Chairman Jeff DeWit is caught on tape offering a bribe to Kari Lake on behalf of “people back east.”

    https://rumble.com/embed/v468tue/

    The voices “back east” surrounding republican Senate races are not exactly a surprise. Yeah, it’s obviously Mitch McConnell and the multinational corporate benefactors from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce who fund the UniParty construct. Apparently, the conversation was Jeff DeWit, 51, chair of the Arizona Republican Party, asking Kari Lake, a close ally of Donald Trump, to name her price to stay out of politics for two years.
     
    Is anyone surprised that Mitch McConnell is involved? (2)

    Trump is not going to pull Kari Lake out of the race as a VP selection. She is more valuable in the Senate countering McConnell. However, she is among the most talked about potential MAGA 2028 candidates.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/23/audio-recording-of-arizona-republican-chair-jeff-dewit-making-bribe-offer-to-kari-lake-to-stay-out-of-senate-race/

    (2) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/24/michael-patrick-leahy-sources-the-jeff-dewit-message-came-from-the-nrsc-aka-mitch-mcconnell/

    Replies: @Not Raul

    Are you sure it was Mitch McConnell?

    I was very curious about who they were talking about. She seemed to know what he meant.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Not Raul


    Are you sure it was Mitch McConnell?
     
    I was very curious about who they were talking about. She seemed to know what he meant.

     
    Many whose profession depends on understanding the webs of power in DC trace it back to McConnell. For example: (1)

    Michael Patrick Leahy appears on Steve Bannon War Romm discussing, in part, the Jeff DeWit message to Kari Lake and who from “back east” was the originator of the message to bribe Mrs Lake to stay out of the Arizona senate race.

    As expected, the sources for MPL’s report outline that Mitch McConnell and the National Republican Senatorial Committee originated the proposal. This should not be a surprise to anyone who reads CTH. The NRSC is primarily funded by the biggest lobbying group, the U.S Chamber of Commerce. The USCoC fund the legislative priorities of the Senate and Mitch McConnell does their bidding. In essence the bribe money would come from the USCoC into the NRSC.

    [Jump to time 3:00]
    https://rumble.com/embed/v46hv2r/

     

    Anonymous sources are always frustrating to those of us on the outside, but Leahy has a decent track record. The non-anonymous fact that no one is going on record with an official denial strongly suggests he is digging in the right place. What is on the rest of the tape?

    Mitch McConnell clearly has the most to gain. Both in terms of his personal power in 2024 and shaping the institution as his legacy. He also has the resources, via the NRSC, to deliver on "name your price". The preponderance of the evidence points to him.

    If not Mitch McConnell, who else would it be?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/24/michael-patrick-leahy-sources-the-jeff-dewit-message-came-from-the-nrsc-aka-mitch-mcconnell/

    Replies: @Not Raul

  593. @Yevardian
    @German_reader

    Nothing so ambitious as that, it would have just been a landgrab invoking Wilsonian Armenia, or something like that. America wasn't exactly pleased with Turkey. Stalin had already established the puppet states of "Republic of Mahabad" and "People's Republic East Azerbaijan" in Iran. Those were only disestablished thanks to the extreme skill of post-war Prime Minister Ahmad Qavam (no American pressure was involved), so Stalin quite reasonably thought he could get away with an Anatolian annexation on a Wilsonian pretext. The USSR ruled over every other majority Turkic nation at the time, so punishing an avowedly pan-Turkist government would also make eminent sense.
    Against the backdrop of the muck in Palestine, the ethnic cleansing of Germans in East Europe and the Indian partition, the loss of some of Turkey's poorest and least-Turkish provinces probably could have gone on relatively unnoticed. Turkey only got into NATO after many strenuous objections, obviously foremost by Greece.

    Keep in mind Turkey declared war Germany in February 1945 only to avoid reprisals, something which neither Spain nor Sweden felt compelled to do. It was probably only the bomb that stopped Stalin in the end. Don't forget how active the Russian-funded PKK was even after that.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Sher Singh

    the loss of some of Turkey’s poorest and least-Turkish provinces probably could have gone on relatively unnoticed.

    They were already solidly Turkish by the 1940s, no? Here’s 1960s Turkish census data, after all:

    Map of Turkish as mother language in 1965 Turkey census [1024 x 500]
    byu/mrtfr inMapPorn

    Most of the non-Turks in eastern and southern Turkey in 1965 were Kurds:

    Proportion of people speaking Kurdish & Zaza in Turkey, from the 1965 Turkish census
    by inLinguisticMaps

  594. @silviosilver
    @Beckow


    It had many layers – but it was really about showing an African version of the endless white “Wakandas” movies of the past. Or do you actually think that the Anglo “Wakandas” celebrating everything from the world conquest to “winning the WW2 in Normandy” were any less Wakandish?
     
    Obviously they were less Wakandish. Wakanda was created solely to boost black cultural self-esteem (in the vain hope it'll improve black life outcomes). Celebratory depictions of American achievements are at least based on something real. But the insinuation that Americans have failed to be self-critical is so self-evidently idiotic (if they haven't been, then no one has) that only an envy-ridden commie worm would make it.

    Even a great movie like Casablanca is a silly “Wakanda” story about a loser New York drunk fighting the “Nazis”…and winning!!!
     
    Lol, of all the examples you could have chosen, it's telling you settle on this one. Yeah we get it, you're deeply offended by any reference to westerners fighting the Nazis. Bow down and worship the Soviets is the only choice you offer people.

    Well, who knows, with Russians behaving the way they are, maybe westerners will start celebrating their role in WW2 not only as fighting the Nazis but saving the Europe from the commies (aka Russians). A historical distortion? Only slightly, and one I would happily ignore.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    Well, who knows, with Russians behaving the way they are, maybe westerners will start celebrating their role in WW2 not only as fighting the Nazis but saving the Europe from the commies (aka Russians). A historical distortion? Only slightly, and one I would happily ignore.

    It really is amazing just how rapidly Western-Soviet relations deteriorated after WWII. Similar to how Western-Russian relations were relatively warm in the late 1980s and early 1990s and then gradually turned hostile, albeit with full hostility only being reached in 2014 and afterwards.

  595. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @A123


    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate.
     
    Merely aligning with Nazis doesn't indict one as a rabid anti-Semite. Half of Europe did in WWII, so did the Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, Chinese and Japanese.

    (Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn't absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins)

    By the way, what's the deal with Jackson Hinkle signing up to be a CCP flunkie? "MAGA Communism"?

    https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1749997152619696258

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @A123

    (Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn’t absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins)

    Some far-right Israeli Jews actually do think rather similarly to Hitler, but with Jews rather than Germans as the master race and with Arabs rather than Jews as the inferior race:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/embracing-racism-rabbis-at-pre-army-yeshiva-laud-hitler-urge-enslaving-arabs/

  596. @Derer
    @AnonfromTN

    Mark Twain wisdom is appropriate: "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference"

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    “Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw

    George B. S. was talking about some other ethnic style. Not fairies. George B. S. didn’t believe in fairies.

  597. @songbird
    Never realized this, but apparently the opposum wasn't even in the Boston area until maybe about the 1940s. Its been moving north, even though it seems to be very poorly adapted for long, cold and snowy winters.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    If you have any holes in the roof they love those.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    On YouTube, you can find a lot of clips of people petting wild possums.

    Am thinking it might be easier than it appears at first, due to their habit of playing dead. They probably freeze up a bit, without going all the way into a catatonic state immediately.

    But most people would be put off by their hissing and snarling.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/tzBfxhUumlI?si=bNXIl8N5HzXoH51U

    Replies: @QCIC

  598. @Derer
    @AP

    Why are you wasting space here with your stupid concocted propaganda material. I can show you hundreds graphs/interviews/surveys refuting your garbage.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    No you can’t.

  599. @Derer
    @Sean


    various national malaises of Russia (economic and demographic) leading to it collapsing as a truely independent power.
     
    How can you write this slander when, in fact, the US is irreparably polarized and in a deep racial and political quagmire. In fact, is heading on a path to a blue and red divide. The post WWII European brain is dying off and replaced by the generation of drugs and violence incapable to restore the normalcy or previous greatness. China will anytime claim that 33 trillion debt. Running country by borrowing is never smart, ask the Greeks.

    Replies: @Sean

    Kyle Bass

    Jan 18
    The United States 🇺🇸 represents:

    4% of the World Population

    25% of World GDP

    40% of Global Capital Markets

    We have the deepest, most liquid, most trusted capital markets in the world. It’s financial power that remains unmatched. […]

    “In 15 years, China’s GDP, reported GDP is up over 500%, but if you invested in the Chinese stock market 15 years ago, you’ve lost a third of your money”

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Sean

    The North American GDP is at 87% of Asian's GDP and 61% for Europe/Asia - not a rosy future of this shift.

  600. @Yevardian
    @German_reader


    Given Putin’s late Soviet background this might not be surprising. iirc Central Asians and other Muslims were an increasingly large percentage of the Soviet population by the 1980s.
     
    Not to engage in my own ethnonarcissim, but if you look at the USSR's Caucasian-policy there was consistent favour of "Azeri" (the ethnic Iranian-Azeri Kasravi wrote comprehensively on just how fake Azeri identity was) Turkic interests, after years of escalating anti-Armenian pogroms, the USSR only finally lost its patience when Azeris began tearing down the USSR-IRan border-fence, demanding unification. USSR couldn't afford such a diplomatic bomb going off and that's when the Soviet army intervened in "Black January".

    In retrospect it seems the USSR definitively decided to suppress all Armenian irredentist aspirations when Stalin had to abandon his plans for a post-WWII invasion of Turkey, after it joined NATO. Turkish public opinion, like Sweden, Spain & Iran was overwhelmingly pro-Axis, but their governments wisely didn't want to risk entering the war.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Another Polish Perspective, @Mr. XYZ

    Turkey’s odds of entering WWII on the Axis side might have been much higher had the Treaty of Sevres remained in force until WWII instead of being replaced by the more pro-Turkish Treaty of Lausanne in 1923.

  601. Looks like Nitter will soon stop working due to recent changes in Twitter which closed a loophole for creating mass accounts. No way then at all to read that damn site without an account.
    Musk is such a cunt, I hope he’ll come to a bad end eventually.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @German_reader

    Isn't Twitter still losing money?

    From a business standpoint, it probably makes sense to close any leaks that could prevent money from being made from the info, as compared to a closed system.

    , @songbird
    @German_reader

    And I will add: didn't one of his sons become a tranny?

    What fate worse than that? Which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. He is already a tragic figure, IMO.

    Replies: @German_reader

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @German_reader

    Can you code an algorithm to suppress twitter posts about Israel army killing Gaza women and children?

    Pretty sure they would give you more money than you could ever spend to work for them right now. That department there is going nuts.

  602. @Not Raul
    @A123

    Are you sure it was Mitch McConnell?

    I was very curious about who they were talking about. She seemed to know what he meant.

    Replies: @A123

    Are you sure it was Mitch McConnell?
     
    I was very curious about who they were talking about. She seemed to know what he meant.

    Many whose profession depends on understanding the webs of power in DC trace it back to McConnell. For example: (1)

    Michael Patrick Leahy appears on Steve Bannon War Romm discussing, in part, the Jeff DeWit message to Kari Lake and who from “back east” was the originator of the message to bribe Mrs Lake to stay out of the Arizona senate race.

    As expected, the sources for MPL’s report outline that Mitch McConnell and the National Republican Senatorial Committee originated the proposal. This should not be a surprise to anyone who reads CTH. The NRSC is primarily funded by the biggest lobbying group, the U.S Chamber of Commerce. The USCoC fund the legislative priorities of the Senate and Mitch McConnell does their bidding. In essence the bribe money would come from the USCoC into the NRSC.

    [Jump to time 3:00]



    Video Link

    Anonymous sources are always frustrating to those of us on the outside, but Leahy has a decent track record. The non-anonymous fact that no one is going on record with an official denial strongly suggests he is digging in the right place. What is on the rest of the tape?

    Mitch McConnell clearly has the most to gain. Both in terms of his personal power in 2024 and shaping the institution as his legacy. He also has the resources, via the NRSC, to deliver on “name your price”. The preponderance of the evidence points to him.

    If not Mitch McConnell, who else would it be?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/24/michael-patrick-leahy-sources-the-jeff-dewit-message-came-from-the-nrsc-aka-mitch-mcconnell/

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @A123


    If not Mitch McConnell, who else would it be?
     
    Good question.

    “Back east” is more likely to mean the East Coast.

    I would look to major donors on the East Coast, especially the major cities.

    I think that Mitch could be involved; but I think that, considering he isn’t what he used to be mentally, his big donors could have played a bigger role.

    Mitch has a lot of big Wall Street donors, like Blackstone. I doubt that Lake is their cup of tea.



    https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/mitch-mcconnell/contributors?cid=N00003389&cycle=CAREER

    The Blackstone founder had interesting things to say in 2015.

    https://money.cnn.com/2015/04/29/investing/blackstone-schwarzman-gop-presidential-election/index.html

    Replies: @A123

  603. @German_reader
    Looks like Nitter will soon stop working due to recent changes in Twitter which closed a loophole for creating mass accounts. No way then at all to read that damn site without an account.
    Musk is such a cunt, I hope he'll come to a bad end eventually.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Isn’t Twitter still losing money?

    From a business standpoint, it probably makes sense to close any leaks that could prevent money from being made from the info, as compared to a closed system.

  604. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    If you have any holes in the roof they love those.

    Replies: @songbird

    On YouTube, you can find a lot of clips of people petting wild possums.

    Am thinking it might be easier than it appears at first, due to their habit of playing dead. They probably freeze up a bit, without going all the way into a catatonic state immediately.

    But most people would be put off by their hissing and snarling.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

    Replies: @songbird, @AnonfromTN, @AP

  605. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @A123


    Anti-Semite Zelensky is a neo-Nazi post-Judaic apostate.
     
    Merely aligning with Nazis doesn't indict one as a rabid anti-Semite. Half of Europe did in WWII, so did the Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, Chinese and Japanese.

    (Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn't absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins)

    By the way, what's the deal with Jackson Hinkle signing up to be a CCP flunkie? "MAGA Communism"?

    https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1749997152619696258

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @A123

    Merely aligning with Nazis doesn’t indict one as a rabid anti-Semite. Half of Europe did in WWII, so did the Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, Chinese and Japanese.

    I concur.

    However, Anti-Semite Zelensky, as President, has command & control authority of his nation’s forces including the Azov neo-Nazis. That is much more than “merely aligning”.

    An equivalent construct would be, someone with the power & authority to order Hitler to stop who willingly took a pass. Would that make them complicit or an outright Nazi themselves? IMHO, yes it would. This is much more indicative of anti-Semitism.

    Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn’t absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins

    Certainly, having genome indicating ancestral links does not prevent anything.

    Converts are some of the most rabid people around. A former Jew who became a post-Judaic apostate would be fertile ground for willing Nazism. Was Hitler’s mother an outcast? Such a perceived injustice would also have the potential to cultivate virulent anti-Semitism.
    ___

    My intent is more to debunk the nutters here who claim that Zelensky is the “Jew King of Kiev”. Trying to attach Kiev aggression to Judaism simply does not work. Let me return to the essential point needed for understanding the situation in Ukraine.

    Neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if one insists on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs "in line" to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN

    , @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    Trying to attach Kiev aggression to Judaism simply does not work.
     
    There is no "Kiev aggression" since it's a defensive war on Ukraine's part. Surely, somebody as astute as you are in playing video race car games should be able to figure out "forward" and "reverse" on a joystick? It's analogous to offense/defense on the battlefield. I'm beginning to wonder:

    https://youtu.be/A85K_iP7K1A

    Question for kremlinstoogeA123: In this situation, does one proceed forward (offensive posture) or should one go into reverse (defensive posture). You can see the difference, right?
  606. @John Johnson
    @Greasy William

    US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    Most of the military aid to Ukraine has been decommissioned equipment. It was already paid for.

    Explain how donating it to Ukraine is losing.

    Hamas is Israel's problem. The US is not involved. Are you suggesting Hamas is winning? They have been wiped out.

    Yemen - Some skinny pirates have slowed shipping lanes to support Hamas. Did you expect them to be killed in 24 hours? Have you seen the size of Yemen? What is the losing part?

    Trump was always going to win the nomination but the events of the past week have caused Trump’s return to become more real to people.

    That is an unknown. Trump could be barred from Federal employment through the documents case.

    Trump's 2 AM rant about presidential immunity shows a lack of confidence in winning over a jury.

    Prediction: Trump wins the popular vote by 4 points. I don’t know what will happen in the electoral college.

    Why does it matter if Trump wins the popular vote? It's like a participation trophy.

    It's the swing states that matter.

    Replies: @A123, @Greasy William, @Sean

    US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?

    I think think one could argue very successfully that Washington is too successful for its own liking in thwarting Russia in Ukraine. The key defeat of the US which started the Cold War was the loss of China and the shock of Chinese intervention in Korea. Fear about another Chinese intervention made winning Vietnam impossible and the defeat in Vietnam and resultant anti militarism led to the US building up China as a counterweight to the Soviet Union, which has spectacularly backfired in grand strategy terms now that Washington is faced with the completely novel situation of Russia being now closer to China than America is. Russian electronic warfare seems to be in play to hamstring Israel’s targeting in Gaza, and its not just Iran that approves, Russia is also getting closer to Middle Eastern countries previously considered US client states such as Saudi Arabia. As a result of trusting the Chinese to do dangerous research banned in the West there was a Pandemic that led to qualitative easing, with inflation that bites those without assets

    It’s the swing states that matter.

    People without college degrees are a minority (only a third of US) who form the core of Trump’s support. Biden is the man from the US’s corporate capital of Wilmington Delaware, and laws framed by those corporations continue to hurt the interests of American workers. The US middle class continue to be pauperised by a health care system that is the most expensive in the world and twice as costly as the second most expensive countries system. as for Biden’s strength in the swing states, It is questionable if Biden would ever have been elected had his swing state voters understood he would be in for another term. As the reality of him in the White House again sinks in, it will not be a somewhat harder decision for them this time?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Sean


    People without college degrees are a minority (only a third of US) who form the core of Trump’s support.
     
    You may want to check your statistics.

    People without college degrees are a majority (over 60% of US, aged 25+) who form the core of Trump’s support. He also does pretty well with bachelors degree holders. It is the much smaller masters/PhD contingent where one sees an extreme, elitist swing towards the DNC.

    There is little reason to believe the U.S. economy needs this many 4+ year degree holders. Shifting flow to shorter, trade certifications would be helpful. Also, grievance studies degrees could be effectively eradicated, along with the associated faculty.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Sean

  607. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    On YouTube, you can find a lot of clips of people petting wild possums.

    Am thinking it might be easier than it appears at first, due to their habit of playing dead. They probably freeze up a bit, without going all the way into a catatonic state immediately.

    But most people would be put off by their hissing and snarling.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/tzBfxhUumlI?si=bNXIl8N5HzXoH51U

    Replies: @QCIC

    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC


    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

     

    No, it's not really. Possums are very strange mammals, being marsupials. Their average body temp is about seven degrees Fahrenheit colder than raccoons. While technically they can get rabies, for practical purposes they are virtually immune.

    I think it would be almost like catching it from a reptile or sloth, though maybe a bit higher odds.

    That is why I once jokingly said that Pasteur had been on the wrong path and the correct path has been to turn dogs into carriers (like Enterprise), carrying fleets of possum interceptors on their back (sort of like a mother possum), to intercept rabid animals.

    But I guess they probably aren't aggressive enough for it to work.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.
     
    I don’t know about rabies. It appears that Western elites got rabies w/o petting possums.

    It’s a great way to get bitten, though. I once rescued a possum that got into a hole near my pool and couldn’t get out by itself. Possum was quite aggressive, it took some ingenuity to get it out w/o being bitten. I succeeded mostly because humans (at least some) are smarter than possums.
    , @AP
    @QCIC

    Possums are immune to rabies.

  608. @A123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Merely aligning with Nazis doesn’t indict one as a rabid anti-Semite. Half of Europe did in WWII, so did the Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, Chinese and Japanese.
     
    I concur.

    However, Anti-Semite Zelensky, as President, has command & control authority of his nation's forces including the Azov neo-Nazis. That is much more than "merely aligning".

    An equivalent construct would be, someone with the power & authority to order Hitler to stop who willingly took a pass. Would that make them complicit or an outright Nazi themselves? IMHO, yes it would. This is much more indicative of anti-Semitism.

    Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn’t absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins
     
    Certainly, having genome indicating ancestral links does not prevent anything.

    Converts are some of the most rabid people around. A former Jew who became a post-Judaic apostate would be fertile ground for willing Nazism. Was Hitler's mother an outcast? Such a perceived injustice would also have the potential to cultivate virulent anti-Semitism.
    ___

    My intent is more to debunk the nutters here who claim that Zelensky is the "Jew King of Kiev". Trying to attach Kiev aggression to Judaism simply does not work. Let me return to the essential point needed for understanding the situation in Ukraine.

    Neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if one insists on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC



    Neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if one insists on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.
     
    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.
     
    Do you actually believe 100% of all oligarchs are Jewish? To be an oligarch, one must be a Jew? That does not seem to be the case.

    Is every Jew an oligarch? That also seems unlikely. Of the ~15MM Jews in the world, how many are oligarchs?

    You are asking a question where one of the descriptors "oligarch" has essential meaning while the other "Jewish" applies to a population hundreds of thousands of times larger. Why not ask your question in this more meaningful way, removing the superfluous term:

    It is possible that the web of power keeps oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev?

    Do you see how that is better? It focuses on the tiny group of oligarchs, not 15MM Jews. And, it does not incorrectly imply 100% of all oligarchs are Jewish.
    ___

    And, yes... Russia is currently doing a better job keeping its oligarchs of all faiths in line.

    The one Putin seems to have the most trouble with is Kadyrov, who is simultaneously a politician and an oligarch (est. 100-200 million USD). FYI: Kadyrov is not a Jew.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.
     
    This is the characteristic of the system. Equally applies to non-Jewish oligarchs.
  609. @Beckow
    @AP

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    It was a done deal that Kiev would join - 80-90% chance - that is not hypothetical. From a national security point of view that is 100% (they are paid to be paranoid).

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    I didn't say "civil war" - I said internal instability. There is 80-90% chance in the next generation in Russia of some internal crisis, e.g. the post-Putin transition. It could be very minor like the last year's "march on Moscow", or very serious.

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table.

    In case of instability in Russia it is 100% that NATO would "wade in" and fund one side or another, stage demonstrations, bribe people...that's what they do, they do it now all over the world. They f...ing boast about it. Are you so naive?

    Based on that, it was 70-80% that next time there is a crisis or instability in Russia, NATO in Ukraine would use its superior position to pressure, threaten and try to dictate to Russia. At that point Russia would have the nukes. Would they use them or would they give in?

    If the war ends in Russian victory it will spare us the unpleasant dilemma...you should be happy about it.

    None of that in "improbable", actually it was more likely to happen than not. But the key point is that the Russian security state had to anticipate it and had to react - it is their job to be paranoid and to prevent bad things. So they did. And once they started the war it is only a question of exactly how they will win - big, small, generous, punitive... Kiev and NATO brought this on themselves, they were giddy with one-sided emotions, forgot to check the maps and weapons supplies - they bluffed and lost.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    once they started the war it is only a question of exactly how they will win – big, small, generous, punitive… Kiev and NATO brought this on themselves, they were giddy with one-sided emotions, forgot to check the maps and weapons supplies – they bluffed and lost.

    Kyiv and NATO are not responsible for the real or imaginative “internal stability” that you bring up. Every country in the world is subject to these sorts of possibilities. The way to overcome them is not to unleash a stupid war with a neighboring country like Russia has done, but to make living and political conditions better, so that its citizens are content with things as they are, and not interested in any violent societal reengineering projects.

    It is a total falsehood to claim that Kyiv and NATO were “giddy and with one sided emotions” in pursuing this war. Even after the West had warned Ukraine that Russia was poised to invade, it was very slow to respond, more like kicking and dragging its feet to get involved in any big way. How Russia wasn’t able to make greater inroads into Ukraine than it did will remain a mystery to all onlookers to this day. They did have the second greatest military in the world, or was it actually the second greatest military within Ukraine?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    This conflict between the West and Russia did not start in 2022.
    It did not start in 2015.
    It did not start in 2014.
    It probably started in 1999 with the expansion of NATO past the agreed upon limits. The West has made many aggressive steps against Russia since that time, most of which had little to do with Ukraine. No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia. Sadly, these aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional and are part of a pattern which has been widely discussed.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

  610. @QCIC
    @A123

    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs "in line" to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN

    Neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if one insists on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.

    Do you actually believe 100% of all oligarchs are Jewish? To be an oligarch, one must be a Jew? That does not seem to be the case.

    Is every Jew an oligarch? That also seems unlikely. Of the ~15MM Jews in the world, how many are oligarchs?

    You are asking a question where one of the descriptors “oligarch” has essential meaning while the other “Jewish” applies to a population hundreds of thousands of times larger. Why not ask your question in this more meaningful way, removing the superfluous term:

    It is possible that the web of power keeps oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev?

    Do you see how that is better? It focuses on the tiny group of oligarchs, not 15MM Jews. And, it does not incorrectly imply 100% of all oligarchs are Jewish.
    ___

    And, yes… Russia is currently doing a better job keeping its oligarchs of all faiths in line.

    The one Putin seems to have the most trouble with is Kadyrov, who is simultaneously a politician and an oligarch (est. 100-200 million USD). FYI: Kadyrov is not a Jew.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    Of course there are plenty of non-Jewish oligarchs in both countries. I think many of them see themselves as Russians. Many Jewish people see themselves as Jewish first and Russian/Ukrainian/etc. second. This interesting distinction seems to have geopolitical ramifications which may apply to the conflict over Ukraine.

  611. @Sean
    @John Johnson


    US is losing in Ukraine, losing in Gaza and losing in Yemen.

    How exactly is the US losing in any of those areas?


     

    I think think one could argue very successfully that Washington is too successful for its own liking in thwarting Russia in Ukraine. The key defeat of the US which started the Cold War was the loss of China and the shock of Chinese intervention in Korea. Fear about another Chinese intervention made winning Vietnam impossible and the defeat in Vietnam and resultant anti militarism led to the US building up China as a counterweight to the Soviet Union, which has spectacularly backfired in grand strategy terms now that Washington is faced with the completely novel situation of Russia being now closer to China than America is. Russian electronic warfare seems to be in play to hamstring Israel's targeting in Gaza, and its not just Iran that approves, Russia is also getting closer to Middle Eastern countries previously considered US client states such as Saudi Arabia. As a result of trusting the Chinese to do dangerous research banned in the West there was a Pandemic that led to qualitative easing, with inflation that bites those without assets

    It’s the swing states that matter.
     
    People without college degrees are a minority (only a third of US) who form the core of Trump's support. Biden is the man from the US's corporate capital of Wilmington Delaware, and laws framed by those corporations continue to hurt the interests of American workers. The US middle class continue to be pauperised by a health care system that is the most expensive in the world and twice as costly as the second most expensive countries system. as for Biden's strength in the swing states, It is questionable if Biden would ever have been elected had his swing state voters understood he would be in for another term. As the reality of him in the White House again sinks in, it will not be a somewhat harder decision for them this time?

    Replies: @A123

    People without college degrees are a minority (only a third of US) who form the core of Trump’s support.

    You may want to check your statistics.

    People without college degrees are a majority (over 60% of US, aged 25+) who form the core of Trump’s support. He also does pretty well with bachelors degree holders. It is the much smaller masters/PhD contingent where one sees an extreme, elitist swing towards the DNC.

    There is little reason to believe the U.S. economy needs this many 4+ year degree holders. Shifting flow to shorter, trade certifications would be helpful. Also, grievance studies degrees could be effectively eradicated, along with the associated faculty.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Sean
    @A123

    OK. Of eligible voters without a college degree, 41% are white.

  612. @A123
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Merely aligning with Nazis doesn’t indict one as a rabid anti-Semite. Half of Europe did in WWII, so did the Arabs, Iranians, Hindus, Chinese and Japanese.
     
    I concur.

    However, Anti-Semite Zelensky, as President, has command & control authority of his nation's forces including the Azov neo-Nazis. That is much more than "merely aligning".

    An equivalent construct would be, someone with the power & authority to order Hitler to stop who willingly took a pass. Would that make them complicit or an outright Nazi themselves? IMHO, yes it would. This is much more indicative of anti-Semitism.

    Conversely, mere being Jewish doesn’t absolve one from being a rabid Nazi. Hence Lavrov insinuated that Hitler had Jewish origins
     
    Certainly, having genome indicating ancestral links does not prevent anything.

    Converts are some of the most rabid people around. A former Jew who became a post-Judaic apostate would be fertile ground for willing Nazism. Was Hitler's mother an outcast? Such a perceived injustice would also have the potential to cultivate virulent anti-Semitism.
    ___

    My intent is more to debunk the nutters here who claim that Zelensky is the "Jew King of Kiev". Trying to attach Kiev aggression to Judaism simply does not work. Let me return to the essential point needed for understanding the situation in Ukraine.

    Neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if one insists on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    Trying to attach Kiev aggression to Judaism simply does not work.

    There is no “Kiev aggression” since it’s a defensive war on Ukraine’s part. Surely, somebody as astute as you are in playing video race car games should be able to figure out “forward” and “reverse” on a joystick? It’s analogous to offense/defense on the battlefield. I’m beginning to wonder:

    Question for kremlinstoogeA123: In this situation, does one proceed forward (offensive posture) or should one go into reverse (defensive posture). You can see the difference, right?

  613. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

    Replies: @songbird, @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

    No, it’s not really. Possums are very strange mammals, being marsupials. Their average body temp is about seven degrees Fahrenheit colder than raccoons. While technically they can get rabies, for practical purposes they are virtually immune.

    I think it would be almost like catching it from a reptile or sloth, though maybe a bit higher odds.

    That is why I once jokingly said that Pasteur had been on the wrong path and the correct path has been to turn dogs into carriers (like Enterprise), carrying fleets of possum interceptors on their back (sort of like a mother possum), to intercept rabid animals.

    But I guess they probably aren’t aggressive enough for it to work.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Thanks, I had completely forgotten that possums don't carry rabies. I think I once read that factoid here at Unz.

    My point was just the conventional wisdom that if a normally skittish critter lets you pet it, the creature could easily be sick and confused, so you should not try to pet it.

    Replies: @songbird

  614. Battle of the Nations
    Italy Russia

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  615. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    once they started the war it is only a question of exactly how they will win – big, small, generous, punitive… Kiev and NATO brought this on themselves, they were giddy with one-sided emotions, forgot to check the maps and weapons supplies – they bluffed and lost.
     
    Kyiv and NATO are not responsible for the real or imaginative "internal stability" that you bring up. Every country in the world is subject to these sorts of possibilities. The way to overcome them is not to unleash a stupid war with a neighboring country like Russia has done, but to make living and political conditions better, so that its citizens are content with things as they are, and not interested in any violent societal reengineering projects.

    It is a total falsehood to claim that Kyiv and NATO were "giddy and with one sided emotions" in pursuing this war. Even after the West had warned Ukraine that Russia was poised to invade, it was very slow to respond, more like kicking and dragging its feet to get involved in any big way. How Russia wasn't able to make greater inroads into Ukraine than it did will remain a mystery to all onlookers to this day. They did have the second greatest military in the world, or was it actually the second greatest military within Ukraine?

    Replies: @QCIC

    This conflict between the West and Russia did not start in 2022.
    It did not start in 2015.
    It did not start in 2014.
    It probably started in 1999 with the expansion of NATO past the agreed upon limits. The West has made many aggressive steps against Russia since that time, most of which had little to do with Ukraine. No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia. Sadly, these aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional and are part of a pattern which has been widely discussed.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    I was addressing specific claims that Beckow made above in his comment #583 that have nothing to do with the timing of Russia's aggressive actions within Ukraine. Try to stay focused on the topic at hand.

    , @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    This conflict between the West and Russia did not start in 2022.
     
    This conflict started ages before the Soviets. Just a few historical illustrations. Alexander Nevsky thwarted European aggression back in 1242 (Battle on the Ice). Polish aggressors ate each other in Moscow Kremlin besieged by Russian patriots in 1612.

    This conflict continues decades after the demise of the USSR and shows no signs of abating in the next century or two.

    Replies: @German_reader

    , @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia....the aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional
     

    The lack of justification has been startling. Why do it? Why expand Nato after the end of the Cold War? Why leave the ABM and other treaties? Why place 'defensive' missiles on the Russian border in Poland and Romania? They never even try to justify it - instead they lie and distract. A pathetic picture of a thief who when blocked can't even admit to being a thief, unmanly and dishonorable.

    Now they don't want to talk about it. The 'Nato-uber-alles' group - Mr.Hacks, AP, JJ and others - deny the most obvious things and talk about everything else, but don't address the insane destabilization of the Nato move to Ukraine. It led to the war that Kiev is losing. But they are celebrating that the loss is not happening "fast enough" - what difference will that make in the long run? One or 3 years, the result will be the same: rump shrunken Ukraine, maybe half of the size it could have been, and Nato's expansion to Ukraine blocked. Celebrate that.

    Replies: @German_reader, @A123

  616. @A123
    @QCIC



    Neither side is particularly Jewish. However, if one insists on such labels, Russia is vastly more Judaic that the Nazi Kiev regime.
     
    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.
     
    Do you actually believe 100% of all oligarchs are Jewish? To be an oligarch, one must be a Jew? That does not seem to be the case.

    Is every Jew an oligarch? That also seems unlikely. Of the ~15MM Jews in the world, how many are oligarchs?

    You are asking a question where one of the descriptors "oligarch" has essential meaning while the other "Jewish" applies to a population hundreds of thousands of times larger. Why not ask your question in this more meaningful way, removing the superfluous term:

    It is possible that the web of power keeps oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev?

    Do you see how that is better? It focuses on the tiny group of oligarchs, not 15MM Jews. And, it does not incorrectly imply 100% of all oligarchs are Jewish.
    ___

    And, yes... Russia is currently doing a better job keeping its oligarchs of all faiths in line.

    The one Putin seems to have the most trouble with is Kadyrov, who is simultaneously a politician and an oligarch (est. 100-200 million USD). FYI: Kadyrov is not a Jew.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    Of course there are plenty of non-Jewish oligarchs in both countries. I think many of them see themselves as Russians. Many Jewish people see themselves as Jewish first and Russian/Ukrainian/etc. second. This interesting distinction seems to have geopolitical ramifications which may apply to the conflict over Ukraine.

  617. @songbird
    @QCIC


    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

     

    No, it's not really. Possums are very strange mammals, being marsupials. Their average body temp is about seven degrees Fahrenheit colder than raccoons. While technically they can get rabies, for practical purposes they are virtually immune.

    I think it would be almost like catching it from a reptile or sloth, though maybe a bit higher odds.

    That is why I once jokingly said that Pasteur had been on the wrong path and the correct path has been to turn dogs into carriers (like Enterprise), carrying fleets of possum interceptors on their back (sort of like a mother possum), to intercept rabid animals.

    But I guess they probably aren't aggressive enough for it to work.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Thanks, I had completely forgotten that possums don’t carry rabies. I think I once read that factoid here at Unz.

    My point was just the conventional wisdom that if a normally skittish critter lets you pet it, the creature could easily be sick and confused, so you should not try to pet it.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC


    the creature could easily be sick and confused

     

    probably a good idea to avoid wild animals in general, just for the risks of zoonosis. A lot of scary things beyond rabies. Like leptospirosis and tularemia, even if human infections are somewhat rare.

    And a lot of birds will go straight for the eyes.

    so you should not try to pet it.
     
    People (maybe, modern Euros esp?) will seemingly try to pet anything.

    I wonder if David Brin was wrong for suggesting in his Uplift books shark genes would tend towards agression and duplicity:
    https://youtu.be/Rr_T4Aim6Fw?si=cEsQkhTrcvtPQ-XB

    https://youtu.be/P7yTRVfztRQ?si=pIOG40QajD76V8R1

    AK should not be afraid to add them to his own genome, for the purposes of gaining cancer resistance.
  618. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    This conflict between the West and Russia did not start in 2022.
    It did not start in 2015.
    It did not start in 2014.
    It probably started in 1999 with the expansion of NATO past the agreed upon limits. The West has made many aggressive steps against Russia since that time, most of which had little to do with Ukraine. No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia. Sadly, these aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional and are part of a pattern which has been widely discussed.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

    I was addressing specific claims that Beckow made above in his comment #583 that have nothing to do with the timing of Russia’s aggressive actions within Ukraine. Try to stay focused on the topic at hand.

  619. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

    Replies: @songbird, @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

    I don’t know about rabies. It appears that Western elites got rabies w/o petting possums.

    It’s a great way to get bitten, though. I once rescued a possum that got into a hole near my pool and couldn’t get out by itself. Possum was quite aggressive, it took some ingenuity to get it out w/o being bitten. I succeeded mostly because humans (at least some) are smarter than possums.

  620. @QCIC
    @A123

    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs "in line" to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.

    Replies: @A123, @AnonfromTN

    It is possible that the web of power keeps the Jewish oligarchs “in line” to a greater degree in Russia than the similar webs of power in Kiev.

    This is the characteristic of the system. Equally applies to non-Jewish oligarchs.

  621. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Thanks, I had completely forgotten that possums don't carry rabies. I think I once read that factoid here at Unz.

    My point was just the conventional wisdom that if a normally skittish critter lets you pet it, the creature could easily be sick and confused, so you should not try to pet it.

    Replies: @songbird

    the creature could easily be sick and confused

    probably a good idea to avoid wild animals in general, just for the risks of zoonosis. A lot of scary things beyond rabies. Like leptospirosis and tularemia, even if human infections are somewhat rare.

    And a lot of birds will go straight for the eyes.

    so you should not try to pet it.

    People (maybe, modern Euros esp?) will seemingly try to pet anything.

    I wonder if David Brin was wrong for suggesting in his Uplift books shark genes would tend towards agression and duplicity:

    [MORE]

    AK should not be afraid to add them to his own genome, for the purposes of gaining cancer resistance.

  622. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    This conflict between the West and Russia did not start in 2022.
    It did not start in 2015.
    It did not start in 2014.
    It probably started in 1999 with the expansion of NATO past the agreed upon limits. The West has made many aggressive steps against Russia since that time, most of which had little to do with Ukraine. No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia. Sadly, these aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional and are part of a pattern which has been widely discussed.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

    This conflict between the West and Russia did not start in 2022.

    This conflict started ages before the Soviets. Just a few historical illustrations. Alexander Nevsky thwarted European aggression back in 1242 (Battle on the Ice). Polish aggressors ate each other in Moscow Kremlin besieged by Russian patriots in 1612.

    This conflict continues decades after the demise of the USSR and shows no signs of abating in the next century or two.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    This conflict started ages before the Soviets. Just a few historical illustrations. Alexander Nevsky thwarted European aggression back in 1242 (Battle on the Ice). Polish aggressors ate each other in Moscow Kremlin besieged by Russian patriots in 1612.
     
    There were plenty of other occasions when Russia was allied to other European powers or had positive relations with them for long periods. And frankly, also quite a few occasions when Russia was far from the aggrieved party, but more of an expansionist power that generated justified resentment and apprehension.
    But it's of course totally futile to point this out here, the same discussions have been playing out for years, nothing ever changes.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  623. @German_reader
    Looks like Nitter will soon stop working due to recent changes in Twitter which closed a loophole for creating mass accounts. No way then at all to read that damn site without an account.
    Musk is such a cunt, I hope he'll come to a bad end eventually.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    And I will add: didn’t one of his sons become a tranny?

    What fate worse than that? Which I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. He is already a tragic figure, IMO.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @songbird


    didn’t one of his sons become a tranny?
     
    But doesn't he have like a dozen or so? He can just write off the tranny one as a regrettable loss and focus on the others.
    And frankly, he deserves worse for how he's account-walled Twitter. Maybe the ADL should force him to commit public suicide.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yevardian

  624. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. Hack

    Putin isn't a "Jew" unless he was converted, which is very doubtful taking into account his childhood in Soviet Leningrad.

    His mother was a Georgian, or a Russian living in Georgia, his father was an itinerant Russian worker. He was send off by his mother due to her economic and marital hardship.

    I remember reading that DNA testing confirmed her as his mother. She was left in peace whereas people researching around her died, which is another confirmation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Putina

    Well, another Georgian ruling Russia.... Another war...What if he quietly dislikes Russians so he doesn't care about their lives, sending them off to front ? Surely he keeps grudge against his absent father...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It’s kinda hard to argue that Stalin targeted specifically Russians. Between 16,500 and 50,000 deaths in this, upon suspicion of spying for Empire of Japan. Poles and Koreans met from opposite directions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Koreans_in_the_Soviet_Union

    Between 20,000 and 35,000 deaths in this. Significantly for pro-Japanese sentiments

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_repressions_in_Mongolia

    Including the last Mongol queen carrying an unborn child.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genepil

    This is not her, but similar royal costume was inspiration for Natalie Portman’s

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I am afraid some subconscious ideas of a nation once oppressed spoke through me, when I compared Putin to Stalin in this way :) So some more extreme Polish people can still see Feliks Dzierżyński as "our quiet hero" since he was actually killing a lot of Russians, and did not run anti-Polish operations as the later NKVD did.


    Here you have an article which exemplifies this strain of thought I just mentioned;

    https://www.rp.pl/historia/art9599681-feliks-dzierzynski-czerwony-msciciel

    " Feliks, the Red Avenger[of Poles, presumably]. The creator of the Soviet political police heartily hated Russians but did favours to Poles. had he lived longer, he could have taken the place of Stalin"

    So you see, a Polish secret agent simply ;)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Derer, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    On the other hand, East Asian societies with their culture of being "cute", for example, of cute mascots taking care of any problem, managed to have become endearing for the Westerners... Well, personally I thought so once too... until I learnt how rigid in fact theses societies are....therefore now I look at all these Japanese mascots as more weird than cute.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @songbird

  625. 3 US Servicemen just killed in Jordan.

    While tragic, this is in line with what I said about how the US will be losing, or will have already lost, 4 war by the time of the election: Ukraine, Israel, Yemen and the Levant:

    1. Ukraine: The summer offensive was a costly failure. The UkAF will not be capable of resuming offensive operations for at least another year. Russia is incapable of achieving breakthrough but it can continue to make minor territorial advances while preventing Ukraine from reconstituting an offensive force
    2. Israel: The US has already presented both parties with an agreement for Israeli surrender. Hopefully it will be finalized soon so the Jews still in Palestinian captivity can be returned home
    3. Yemen: US currently has plans to escalate the war against Yemen. This will be a catastrophic failure
    4. The Levant: As mentioned above, 3 US servicemen killed today and dozens of other injured. This wasn’t even in Syria, it was in Jordan. No US base anywhere in the region is safe. Look for these attacks to accelerate over the remainder of the year

    None of this stuff is going to change anyone’s vote, at least not directly. But elections are mostly decided by what the kids call “vibes”. These military defeats, combined with the ongoing border crisis and the soon to hit recession, will create an overall feeling in the electorate that the United States is failing (which it is).

    Trump landslide

    • Replies: @A123
    @Greasy William


    the US will be losing, or will have already lost, 4 war by the time of the election: Ukraine, Israel, Yemen and the Levant:
     
    Not-The-President Biden is an unelected coup leader. His regime losing is often Americans winning. Let us analyze the conflicts with this in mind.

    1. Ukraine: The summer offensive was a costly failure. The UkAF will not be capable of resuming offensive operations for at least another year.
     
    America wins by walking away from the European Empires folly. Those trying to use Not-The-President Biden as a puppet lose.

    2. Israel: The US has already presented both parties with an agreement for Israeli surrender
     
    The Veggie-In-Chief delivered this plan and was soundly mocked and ignored.

    Palestinian Jews will not surrender. Clear loss for the White House occupant. Humiliation of Iran's Hamas proxy in Gaza is a win for America.

    3. Yemen: US currently has plans to escalate the war against Yemen

     

    There is no Declaration of War or AUMF specifically for Yemen. Regardless of what the administration says, there is not much they can actually do. The White House occupant will look weak, but that is status quo not a dramatic loss.

    will create an overall feeling in the electorate that the United States is failing (which it is). Trump landslide
     
    That overall feeling is that the Veggie-In-Chief is personally failing (which he is), not the U.S.

    PEACE 😇
  626. German_reader says:
    @songbird
    @German_reader

    And I will add: didn't one of his sons become a tranny?

    What fate worse than that? Which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. He is already a tragic figure, IMO.

    Replies: @German_reader

    didn’t one of his sons become a tranny?

    But doesn’t he have like a dozen or so? He can just write off the tranny one as a regrettable loss and focus on the others.
    And frankly, he deserves worse for how he’s account-walled Twitter. Maybe the ADL should force him to commit public suicide.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @German_reader


    But doesn’t he have like a dozen or so?
     
    Total born was 11, I think. But who knows if we have the full accounting?

    Believe his strategy is to use IVF, and sometimes surrogacy, which has its advantages, if you have the money, but also possibly its drawbacks. I suspect it may explain the tranny and that one died of sudden infant death syndrome.

    Childhood mortality statistics should be updated to include those who become trannies or homos, IMO.

    he deserves worse for how he’s account-walled Twitter.
     
    Lol. I would maybe be addicted if they brought back racist Twitter with its great satire and had AI recommend the best tweets, but there are many sins I would rather engage in than Twitter scrolling, as is. Have never posted.

    Replies: @German_reader

    , @Yevardian
    @German_reader


    And frankly, he deserves worse for how he’s account-walled Twitter. Maybe the ADL should force him to commit public suicide.
     
    Jeez dude, what's the difference? What's so unbearable about making a burner email for a locked account where no passerby can follow you or see who you're following?

    Replies: @German_reader

  627. BTW, I find it really surprising that playing dead is an effective strategy for opossums. I know they release certain stinky chemicals, but I have never known wildlife to turn-up its nose at old meat.

    But maybe that is the difference between predators and scavengers.

    [MORE]

    https://youtube.com/shorts/VXFdhLb4-oU?si=1AbnTaVG5EfAcqB6

    This possum was sadly maligned. Obviously trying to do hygienic disposal of dead cat, rather than actually killed it:
    https://youtube.com/shorts/5AeG4vdMVzc?si=iSJq1J6vmHJTERUt

    Cats are probably more likely to kill and predate upon opossums than the reverse.

  628. German_reader says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    This conflict between the West and Russia did not start in 2022.
     
    This conflict started ages before the Soviets. Just a few historical illustrations. Alexander Nevsky thwarted European aggression back in 1242 (Battle on the Ice). Polish aggressors ate each other in Moscow Kremlin besieged by Russian patriots in 1612.

    This conflict continues decades after the demise of the USSR and shows no signs of abating in the next century or two.

    Replies: @German_reader

    This conflict started ages before the Soviets. Just a few historical illustrations. Alexander Nevsky thwarted European aggression back in 1242 (Battle on the Ice). Polish aggressors ate each other in Moscow Kremlin besieged by Russian patriots in 1612.

    There were plenty of other occasions when Russia was allied to other European powers or had positive relations with them for long periods. And frankly, also quite a few occasions when Russia was far from the aggrieved party, but more of an expansionist power that generated justified resentment and apprehension.
    But it’s of course totally futile to point this out here, the same discussions have been playing out for years, nothing ever changes.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader

    Yes, there were situational alliances. When Britain and Prussia figured that they cannot beat Napoleon, they did ally with Russia on the assumption that Russia can beat anyone. When Britain figured that it cannot beat Hitler, it allied with the USSR on the same assumption. Both times this assumption proved correct.

    However, as subsequent events showed, these alliances were seen as purely situational by European powers. After Napoleon was defeated, Britain and France took the side of historic enemy of Europe, Turkey, against Russia in Crimean war (1853-56). After the defeat of Hitler European powers willingly joined NATO, then an anti-USSR (today anti-Russian) alliance. I can give many more examples of duplicity of European powers, but these two would suffice.

    Replies: @German_reader

  629. @Greasy William
    3 US Servicemen just killed in Jordan.

    While tragic, this is in line with what I said about how the US will be losing, or will have already lost, 4 war by the time of the election: Ukraine, Israel, Yemen and the Levant:

    1. Ukraine: The summer offensive was a costly failure. The UkAF will not be capable of resuming offensive operations for at least another year. Russia is incapable of achieving breakthrough but it can continue to make minor territorial advances while preventing Ukraine from reconstituting an offensive force
    2. Israel: The US has already presented both parties with an agreement for Israeli surrender. Hopefully it will be finalized soon so the Jews still in Palestinian captivity can be returned home
    3. Yemen: US currently has plans to escalate the war against Yemen. This will be a catastrophic failure
    4. The Levant: As mentioned above, 3 US servicemen killed today and dozens of other injured. This wasn't even in Syria, it was in Jordan. No US base anywhere in the region is safe. Look for these attacks to accelerate over the remainder of the year


    None of this stuff is going to change anyone's vote, at least not directly. But elections are mostly decided by what the kids call "vibes". These military defeats, combined with the ongoing border crisis and the soon to hit recession, will create an overall feeling in the electorate that the United States is failing (which it is).

    Trump landslide

    Replies: @A123

    the US will be losing, or will have already lost, 4 war by the time of the election: Ukraine, Israel, Yemen and the Levant:

    Not-The-President Biden is an unelected coup leader. His regime losing is often Americans winning. Let us analyze the conflicts with this in mind.

    1. Ukraine: The summer offensive was a costly failure. The UkAF will not be capable of resuming offensive operations for at least another year.

    America wins by walking away from the European Empires folly. Those trying to use Not-The-President Biden as a puppet lose.

    2. Israel: The US has already presented both parties with an agreement for Israeli surrender

    The Veggie-In-Chief delivered this plan and was soundly mocked and ignored.

    Palestinian Jews will not surrender. Clear loss for the White House occupant. Humiliation of Iran’s Hamas proxy in Gaza is a win for America.

    3. Yemen: US currently has plans to escalate the war against Yemen

    There is no Declaration of War or AUMF specifically for Yemen. Regardless of what the administration says, there is not much they can actually do. The White House occupant will look weak, but that is status quo not a dramatic loss.

    will create an overall feeling in the electorate that the United States is failing (which it is). Trump landslide

    That overall feeling is that the Veggie-In-Chief is personally failing (which he is), not the U.S.

    PEACE 😇

  630. @German_reader
    @songbird


    didn’t one of his sons become a tranny?
     
    But doesn't he have like a dozen or so? He can just write off the tranny one as a regrettable loss and focus on the others.
    And frankly, he deserves worse for how he's account-walled Twitter. Maybe the ADL should force him to commit public suicide.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yevardian

    But doesn’t he have like a dozen or so?

    Total born was 11, I think. But who knows if we have the full accounting?

    Believe his strategy is to use IVF, and sometimes surrogacy, which has its advantages, if you have the money, but also possibly its drawbacks. I suspect it may explain the tranny and that one died of sudden infant death syndrome.

    Childhood mortality statistics should be updated to include those who become trannies or homos, IMO.

    he deserves worse for how he’s account-walled Twitter.

    Lol. I would maybe be addicted if they brought back racist Twitter with its great satire and had AI recommend the best tweets, but there are many sins I would rather engage in than Twitter scrolling, as is. Have never posted.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @songbird


    I would maybe be addicted if they brought back racist Twitter with its great satire and had AI recommend the best tweets, but there are many sins I would rather engage in than Twitter scrolling, as is. Have never posted.
     
    There are a few accounts about geopolitics, military affairs etc. which are genuinely useful or at least interesting imo. But you're of course right that most of the content is horrible, a bugman's paradise, unbelievable what sort of people you see posting there. I had an account myself for a few weeks and deleted it, because I couldn't stand it anymore and became afraid of posting legally actionable comments.

    Replies: @songbird

  631. @Beckow
    @AP

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    It was a done deal that Kiev would join - 80-90% chance - that is not hypothetical. From a national security point of view that is 100% (they are paid to be paranoid).

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    I didn't say "civil war" - I said internal instability. There is 80-90% chance in the next generation in Russia of some internal crisis, e.g. the post-Putin transition. It could be very minor like the last year's "march on Moscow", or very serious.

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table.

    In case of instability in Russia it is 100% that NATO would "wade in" and fund one side or another, stage demonstrations, bribe people...that's what they do, they do it now all over the world. They f...ing boast about it. Are you so naive?

    Based on that, it was 70-80% that next time there is a crisis or instability in Russia, NATO in Ukraine would use its superior position to pressure, threaten and try to dictate to Russia. At that point Russia would have the nukes. Would they use them or would they give in?

    If the war ends in Russian victory it will spare us the unpleasant dilemma...you should be happy about it.

    None of that in "improbable", actually it was more likely to happen than not. But the key point is that the Russian security state had to anticipate it and had to react - it is their job to be paranoid and to prevent bad things. So they did. And once they started the war it is only a question of exactly how they will win - big, small, generous, punitive... Kiev and NATO brought this on themselves, they were giddy with one-sided emotions, forgot to check the maps and weapons supplies - they bluffed and lost.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP

    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    It was a done deal that Kiev would join – 80-90% chance – that is not hypothetical.

    It was 100% certain that NATO leaders would keep saying that Ukraine would one day join NATO. They had been doing it for 7 years or so.

    Whether it actually would, or when, is another matter. Maybe in 20 years? 30? Not only would all NATO members have to agree, but Ukraine would have to formally give up its claims to Crimea and Donbas. I remember how the pro-Russians were bragging that by taking Crimea, Russia prevented Ukraine from ever joining NATO Was that a lie? Or is claiming that Ukraine could join NATO any time, without a Crimea resolution, a lie.

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    I didn’t say “civil war” – I said internal instability. There is 80-90% chance in the next generation in Russia of some internal crisis, e.g. the post-Putin transition. It could be very minor like the last year’s “march on Moscow”, or very serious.

    Even better. So Russia doesn’t have a civil war, its military and state remain intact, but there are civil disturbances – and NATO invades this huge nuke-armed country with an intact military in order to support street protests in Moscow? No one even dared to invade much-weaker, nuke-less Iran during large protests awhile back, but you think that NATO may invade Russia.

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table.

    In case of instability in Russia it is 100% that NATO would “wade in” and fund one side or another, stage demonstrations, bribe people

    I obviously meant wade in with its military. Attack. Bribing and funding are another matter, they did it in the 1990s before NATO was in Poland, Ukrainian NATO membership is irrelevant for that.

    None of that in “improbable”, actually it was more likely to happen than not.

    Well, let’s review:

    1. Ukraine actually joining NATO – improbable, but possible.

    2. Russia having severe civil disturbances – possible

    3. (1) and (2) both being true, and NATO invading with its military from Ukraine in order to take over Russia by installing its preferred government – a crazy fantasy that no sane person believes, including Russian leadership who may be stupid and have dumb assumptions about Ukraine, but are not paranoid schizophrenics.

    For Russia’s leadership, the reason for the Ukraine invasion wasn’t fear of NATO membership as a risk for an invasion of Russia. It was the false belief that Ukraine was fake and Ukrainians wouldn’t fight for it (therefore, that it would be an easy and bloodless invasion, like Czechoslovakia 1968 or at worst Iraq 2003), that delaying an invasion would result in Ukraine moving ever further from Russia economically and culturally, combined with various other factors such as the Biden’s administration’s weakness as seen in Afghanistan, Western European dependence on Russian gas, history of business as usual with the West after the brief successful Georgian war, other problems vexing the West such as Muslim refugees, etc. And yes, perhaps the chance that if Ukraine did eventually join NATO in 20 or 30 years there would be no chance for invading it. It was a window of opportunity that might not last. So the Russians took it.

    What made this a colossal blunder by the Russian side is that the Ukrainians didn’t play along. They fought back, successfully.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Maybe in 20 years? 30? Not only would all NATO members have to agree, but Ukraine would have to formally give up its claims to Crimea and Donbas.
     
    Maybe in 2 years? Or 5 or 10 years...same result. They wouldn't have to agree to anything: Nato could issue a statement that it is "contested" or whatever. The same situation exists with UK and Spain over Gibraltar, Turkey and Cyprus, and a few more border disputes. Nato would simply paper over it.

    NATO invades this huge nuke-armed country with an intact military in order to support street protests in Moscow
     
    I didn't say "invade" - I was specific: threaten, corner and try to dictate. Imagine Russia as it was in the 90's (possible) and two or three factions fighting for power or an ethnic conflict of some kind. The ability to dictate to Russia with Nato in Ukraine - bases, missiles, ability to cross easily to Russia and do sabotage... - would be a major advantage.

    You like that and are secretly thinking: "what an opportunity, this time we will really take Russia out and put it in its place..."...but why in high heaven would Russia not try to prevent it? The Western core issue is that they insist on directing the play for both sides, and also being the only referee - it is not working any more.

    I obviously meant wade in with its military.
     
    You probably did, you tend to be black-and-white....:)

    How about an armed incursion from Ukraine by a "dissident" group? Heavily supported and armed by Kiev. Kiev is now in Nato, how does Russia respond? (It happened kind of like that in the Caucasus.)

    ...For Russia’s leadership, the reason for the Ukraine invasion wasn’t fear of NATO

    You don't get to tell other people what the "reason" is for what they do. Do you get that basic concept? Russia said Nato in Ukraine was the "red line", they talked about it endlessly for years, they offered a deal many times to settle it with Kiev's neutrality. Why would you make up other things? It is like saying that US invaded Iraq for "oil", or bombed Serbia because Saudis paid them - kind of irrelevant. Focus on what Russia actually said, don't make up things.

    You are unable to see things from others' point of view - Russia has its own internal process, set off rules, fears and plans. They have a right to it.

    There would be no war without the attempted Nato expansion to Ukraine - you remove that and all else would be settled. So the expansion caused the war. There can be no other conclusion.
  632. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Petting a wild opossum sounds like a great way to get rabies.

    Replies: @songbird, @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Possums are immune to rabies.

  633. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    This conflict between the West and Russia did not start in 2022.
    It did not start in 2015.
    It did not start in 2014.
    It probably started in 1999 with the expansion of NATO past the agreed upon limits. The West has made many aggressive steps against Russia since that time, most of which had little to do with Ukraine. No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia. Sadly, these aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional and are part of a pattern which has been widely discussed.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

    …No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia….the aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional

    The lack of justification has been startling. Why do it? Why expand Nato after the end of the Cold War? Why leave the ABM and other treaties? Why place ‘defensive’ missiles on the Russian border in Poland and Romania? They never even try to justify it – instead they lie and distract. A pathetic picture of a thief who when blocked can’t even admit to being a thief, unmanly and dishonorable.

    Now they don’t want to talk about it. The ‘Nato-uber-alles‘ group – Mr.Hacks, AP, JJ and others – deny the most obvious things and talk about everything else, but don’t address the insane destabilization of the Nato move to Ukraine. It led to the war that Kiev is losing. But they are celebrating that the loss is not happening “fast enough” – what difference will that make in the long run? One or 3 years, the result will be the same: rump shrunken Ukraine, maybe half of the size it could have been, and Nato’s expansion to Ukraine blocked. Celebrate that.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Beckow

    I'd agree that Western policy was quite provocative, but you're essentially arguing in favour of preventive war. Now one can argue that in this too the West had established a precedent with the justifications used for the Iraq war (just as Kosovo and other "humanitarian interventions" furnished other precedents for how Russia justified its actions in Ukraine), but do you really think there was no other choice at all? Starting wars on the basis of what might happen in the future isn't likely to lead to greater stability in international relations. Also makes a total mockery of the pro-sovereignty arguments Russia used to make, essentially it's just open might makes right now.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

    , @A123
    @Beckow

    For clarity, please let me insert some numbers in your questions:


    The lack of justification has been startling. Why do it?

    [1] Why expand Nato after the end of the Cold War?
    [2] Why leave the ABM and other treaties?
    [3] Why place ‘defensive’ missiles on the Russian border in Poland and Romania?
     
    #1 -- Indeed provocative. The 3 Baltic States were a mistake. Including Poland made much more sense in terms on contiguous line that could cover Germany.

    #2 -- The new Great Game is U.S./China. Any bilateral treaty that locked in a CCP advantage was doomed. Both Russia and the U.S. were effectively out of compliance with INF. It was not written with cruise instead of ballistic intermediate range as a concept.

    #3 -- It was more about NATO internals. Intended to support countries paying their 2%+ for NATO standing. And, gave America more reliable partners than the "core" deadbeat states. It is understandable that Russia believed it was about them, and should have been explained better behind closed doors.

    The more vicious acts, such as the Collective Punishment Dam built soon after Maiden, were so over the line of sanity that Russia had to respond. Merkel's personal tanking of the Minsk deal was an intolerable offense.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

  634. German_reader says:
    @songbird
    @German_reader


    But doesn’t he have like a dozen or so?
     
    Total born was 11, I think. But who knows if we have the full accounting?

    Believe his strategy is to use IVF, and sometimes surrogacy, which has its advantages, if you have the money, but also possibly its drawbacks. I suspect it may explain the tranny and that one died of sudden infant death syndrome.

    Childhood mortality statistics should be updated to include those who become trannies or homos, IMO.

    he deserves worse for how he’s account-walled Twitter.
     
    Lol. I would maybe be addicted if they brought back racist Twitter with its great satire and had AI recommend the best tweets, but there are many sins I would rather engage in than Twitter scrolling, as is. Have never posted.

    Replies: @German_reader

    I would maybe be addicted if they brought back racist Twitter with its great satire and had AI recommend the best tweets, but there are many sins I would rather engage in than Twitter scrolling, as is. Have never posted.

    There are a few accounts about geopolitics, military affairs etc. which are genuinely useful or at least interesting imo. But you’re of course right that most of the content is horrible, a bugman’s paradise, unbelievable what sort of people you see posting there. I had an account myself for a few weeks and deleted it, because I couldn’t stand it anymore and became afraid of posting legally actionable comments.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @German_reader

    Pretty crazy how they jailed Sam Melia in the UK essentially for putting up stickers.

    BTW, wouldn't be entirely surprised if Musk donated sperm like Shockley. Seems similarly aware of things, even if he isn't as open about it.

    Replies: @German_reader

  635. German_reader says:
    @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia....the aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional
     

    The lack of justification has been startling. Why do it? Why expand Nato after the end of the Cold War? Why leave the ABM and other treaties? Why place 'defensive' missiles on the Russian border in Poland and Romania? They never even try to justify it - instead they lie and distract. A pathetic picture of a thief who when blocked can't even admit to being a thief, unmanly and dishonorable.

    Now they don't want to talk about it. The 'Nato-uber-alles' group - Mr.Hacks, AP, JJ and others - deny the most obvious things and talk about everything else, but don't address the insane destabilization of the Nato move to Ukraine. It led to the war that Kiev is losing. But they are celebrating that the loss is not happening "fast enough" - what difference will that make in the long run? One or 3 years, the result will be the same: rump shrunken Ukraine, maybe half of the size it could have been, and Nato's expansion to Ukraine blocked. Celebrate that.

    Replies: @German_reader, @A123

    I’d agree that Western policy was quite provocative, but you’re essentially arguing in favour of preventive war. Now one can argue that in this too the West had established a precedent with the justifications used for the Iraq war (just as Kosovo and other “humanitarian interventions” furnished other precedents for how Russia justified its actions in Ukraine), but do you really think there was no other choice at all? Starting wars on the basis of what might happen in the future isn’t likely to lead to greater stability in international relations. Also makes a total mockery of the pro-sovereignty arguments Russia used to make, essentially it’s just open might makes right now.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader


    Starting wars on the basis of what might happen in the future isn’t likely to lead to greater stability in international relations.
     
    You still assume that stability is something good. The situation of the 1990s, after the demise of the USSR, was pretty grim for the world (with the exception of the imperial patch, but even in it greedy fat cats started robbing the “middle class” more arrogantly, essentially destroying it, thus destroying social stability).

    This situation quickly got past its shelf life, so that “stability” had to be destroyed to create a different world order. That’s exactly what Russia is doing now. The process won’t end until the empire retreats and a different configuration of international relations is established. All imperial cocksuckers will be big losers. Will serve them right, if you ask me.
    , @Beckow
    @German_reader


    preventive war...Starting wars on the basis of what might happen in the future isn’t likely to lead to greater stability
     
    True, we are now in a very unstable world. But it was the West who started it with their aggressive wars and they are doing it again in Gaza-Yemen etc...Why should others, e.g. Russia, live by the rules West openly breaks?

    Regarding Russia's choice in 2022: it was either do nothing or start a war. They seemingly went for a half-ass mini-war and tried to settle it quickly - the forces they used were small. It didn't work, got escalated and we are in a big war. Sh..t happens...

    Doing nothing was not an option for Russia: they couldn't sit back and wait for Nato-in-Ukraine with bases, missiles, and the nationalist Ukies' fierce hostility with all the 'disputed' territories and the Russian Crimean Navy bases at risk.


    ...Western policy was quite provocative
     
    Provocative is a weak word. Why do you use weak terms about one side and very loaded terms like "aggression", "empire-building" etc...about Russia. That is a big part of the problem. It was "aggressive", let's call spade a spade.

    But why did they do it? They never explained it, so obviously Russia suspected the worst.

  636. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    This conflict started ages before the Soviets. Just a few historical illustrations. Alexander Nevsky thwarted European aggression back in 1242 (Battle on the Ice). Polish aggressors ate each other in Moscow Kremlin besieged by Russian patriots in 1612.
     
    There were plenty of other occasions when Russia was allied to other European powers or had positive relations with them for long periods. And frankly, also quite a few occasions when Russia was far from the aggrieved party, but more of an expansionist power that generated justified resentment and apprehension.
    But it's of course totally futile to point this out here, the same discussions have been playing out for years, nothing ever changes.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Yes, there were situational alliances. When Britain and Prussia figured that they cannot beat Napoleon, they did ally with Russia on the assumption that Russia can beat anyone. When Britain figured that it cannot beat Hitler, it allied with the USSR on the same assumption. Both times this assumption proved correct.

    However, as subsequent events showed, these alliances were seen as purely situational by European powers. After Napoleon was defeated, Britain and France took the side of historic enemy of Europe, Turkey, against Russia in Crimean war (1853-56). After the defeat of Hitler European powers willingly joined NATO, then an anti-USSR (today anti-Russian) alliance. I can give many more examples of duplicity of European powers, but these two would suffice.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    After Napoleon was defeated, Britain and France took the side of historic enemy of Europe, Turkey, against Russia in Crimean war (1853-56).
     
    Didn't prevent Russia's later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century).
    Alliances are always situational (or at least should be, the current status with NATO is rather unhealthy).

    I can give many more examples of duplicity of European powers
     
    That's just typical great power behavior, wouldn't be difficult to claim the same about Russia.
    imo these ideas of some unchanging eternal struggle are ahistorical and a misinterpretation of the current conflict, but I know, there's no point to arguing about it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Gerard1234

  637. @German_reader
    @Beckow

    I'd agree that Western policy was quite provocative, but you're essentially arguing in favour of preventive war. Now one can argue that in this too the West had established a precedent with the justifications used for the Iraq war (just as Kosovo and other "humanitarian interventions" furnished other precedents for how Russia justified its actions in Ukraine), but do you really think there was no other choice at all? Starting wars on the basis of what might happen in the future isn't likely to lead to greater stability in international relations. Also makes a total mockery of the pro-sovereignty arguments Russia used to make, essentially it's just open might makes right now.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

    Starting wars on the basis of what might happen in the future isn’t likely to lead to greater stability in international relations.

    You still assume that stability is something good. The situation of the 1990s, after the demise of the USSR, was pretty grim for the world (with the exception of the imperial patch, but even in it greedy fat cats started robbing the “middle class” more arrogantly, essentially destroying it, thus destroying social stability).

    This situation quickly got past its shelf life, so that “stability” had to be destroyed to create a different world order. That’s exactly what Russia is doing now. The process won’t end until the empire retreats and a different configuration of international relations is established. All imperial cocksuckers will be big losers. Will serve them right, if you ask me.

  638. @AP
    @Beckow


    1. The hypothetical possibility that otherwise Ukraine would join NATO

    It was a done deal that Kiev would join – 80-90% chance – that is not hypothetical.
     
    It was 100% certain that NATO leaders would keep saying that Ukraine would one day join NATO. They had been doing it for 7 years or so.

    Whether it actually would, or when, is another matter. Maybe in 20 years? 30? Not only would all NATO members have to agree, but Ukraine would have to formally give up its claims to Crimea and Donbas. I remember how the pro-Russians were bragging that by taking Crimea, Russia prevented Ukraine from ever joining NATO Was that a lie? Or is claiming that Ukraine could join NATO any time, without a Crimea resolution, a lie.

    2. The hypothetical possibility that Russia would some time after Ukraine joined NATO, have some sort of civil war

    I didn’t say “civil war” – I said internal instability. There is 80-90% chance in the next generation in Russia of some internal crisis, e.g. the post-Putin transition. It could be very minor like the last year’s “march on Moscow”, or very serious.
     
    Even better. So Russia doesn't have a civil war, its military and state remain intact, but there are civil disturbances - and NATO invades this huge nuke-armed country with an intact military in order to support street protests in Moscow? No one even dared to invade much-weaker, nuke-less Iran during large protests awhile back, but you think that NATO may invade Russia.

    3. The hypothetical possibility that in case Ukraine joined NATO and there was a Russian civil war, NATO-in-Ukraine would dare to wade into the Russian civil war in which nukes are on the table.

    In case of instability in Russia it is 100% that NATO would “wade in” and fund one side or another, stage demonstrations, bribe people
     
    I obviously meant wade in with its military. Attack. Bribing and funding are another matter, they did it in the 1990s before NATO was in Poland, Ukrainian NATO membership is irrelevant for that.

    None of that in “improbable”, actually it was more likely to happen than not.
     
    Well, let's review:

    1. Ukraine actually joining NATO - improbable, but possible.

    2. Russia having severe civil disturbances - possible

    3. (1) and (2) both being true, and NATO invading with its military from Ukraine in order to take over Russia by installing its preferred government - a crazy fantasy that no sane person believes, including Russian leadership who may be stupid and have dumb assumptions about Ukraine, but are not paranoid schizophrenics.

    For Russia's leadership, the reason for the Ukraine invasion wasn't fear of NATO membership as a risk for an invasion of Russia. It was the false belief that Ukraine was fake and Ukrainians wouldn't fight for it (therefore, that it would be an easy and bloodless invasion, like Czechoslovakia 1968 or at worst Iraq 2003), that delaying an invasion would result in Ukraine moving ever further from Russia economically and culturally, combined with various other factors such as the Biden's administration's weakness as seen in Afghanistan, Western European dependence on Russian gas, history of business as usual with the West after the brief successful Georgian war, other problems vexing the West such as Muslim refugees, etc. And yes, perhaps the chance that if Ukraine did eventually join NATO in 20 or 30 years there would be no chance for invading it. It was a window of opportunity that might not last. So the Russians took it.

    What made this a colossal blunder by the Russian side is that the Ukrainians didn't play along. They fought back, successfully.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Maybe in 20 years? 30? Not only would all NATO members have to agree, but Ukraine would have to formally give up its claims to Crimea and Donbas.

    Maybe in 2 years? Or 5 or 10 years…same result. They wouldn’t have to agree to anything: Nato could issue a statement that it is “contested” or whatever. The same situation exists with UK and Spain over Gibraltar, Turkey and Cyprus, and a few more border disputes. Nato would simply paper over it.

    NATO invades this huge nuke-armed country with an intact military in order to support street protests in Moscow

    I didn’t say “invade” – I was specific: threaten, corner and try to dictate. Imagine Russia as it was in the 90’s (possible) and two or three factions fighting for power or an ethnic conflict of some kind. The ability to dictate to Russia with Nato in Ukraine – bases, missiles, ability to cross easily to Russia and do sabotage… – would be a major advantage.

    You like that and are secretly thinking: “what an opportunity, this time we will really take Russia out and put it in its place…“…but why in high heaven would Russia not try to prevent it? The Western core issue is that they insist on directing the play for both sides, and also being the only referee – it is not working any more.

    I obviously meant wade in with its military.

    You probably did, you tend to be black-and-white….:)

    How about an armed incursion from Ukraine by a “dissident” group? Heavily supported and armed by Kiev. Kiev is now in Nato, how does Russia respond? (It happened kind of like that in the Caucasus.)

    …For Russia’s leadership, the reason for the Ukraine invasion wasn’t fear of NATO

    You don’t get to tell other people what the “reason” is for what they do. Do you get that basic concept? Russia said Nato in Ukraine was the “red line“, they talked about it endlessly for years, they offered a deal many times to settle it with Kiev’s neutrality. Why would you make up other things? It is like saying that US invaded Iraq for “oil”, or bombed Serbia because Saudis paid them – kind of irrelevant. Focus on what Russia actually said, don’t make up things.

    You are unable to see things from others’ point of view – Russia has its own internal process, set off rules, fears and plans. They have a right to it.

    There would be no war without the attempted Nato expansion to Ukraine – you remove that and all else would be settled. So the expansion caused the war. There can be no other conclusion.

  639. @German_reader
    @songbird


    I would maybe be addicted if they brought back racist Twitter with its great satire and had AI recommend the best tweets, but there are many sins I would rather engage in than Twitter scrolling, as is. Have never posted.
     
    There are a few accounts about geopolitics, military affairs etc. which are genuinely useful or at least interesting imo. But you're of course right that most of the content is horrible, a bugman's paradise, unbelievable what sort of people you see posting there. I had an account myself for a few weeks and deleted it, because I couldn't stand it anymore and became afraid of posting legally actionable comments.

    Replies: @songbird

    Pretty crazy how they jailed Sam Melia in the UK essentially for putting up stickers.

    BTW, wouldn’t be entirely surprised if Musk donated sperm like Shockley. Seems similarly aware of things, even if he isn’t as open about it.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @songbird


    Pretty crazy how they jailed Sam Melia in the UK essentially for putting up stickers.
     
    Probably wasn't a good idea to have one with "2nd generation, 3rd generation, 4th generation...you still have to go back", that can easily be interpreted as attempted intimidation. But on the whole, of course absurdly draconian.
    Btw, the BRD regime has now banned Martin Sellner from entering Germany. Probably the only foreigner who's going to be turned back at the border. Just grotesque.

    Replies: @songbird

  640. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...No substantial justification has been given for any of these moves by the West against Russia.

    Ukraine was simply the straw that broke the back of peaceful relations between the West and Russia....the aggressive actions by the West were completely intentional
     

    The lack of justification has been startling. Why do it? Why expand Nato after the end of the Cold War? Why leave the ABM and other treaties? Why place 'defensive' missiles on the Russian border in Poland and Romania? They never even try to justify it - instead they lie and distract. A pathetic picture of a thief who when blocked can't even admit to being a thief, unmanly and dishonorable.

    Now they don't want to talk about it. The 'Nato-uber-alles' group - Mr.Hacks, AP, JJ and others - deny the most obvious things and talk about everything else, but don't address the insane destabilization of the Nato move to Ukraine. It led to the war that Kiev is losing. But they are celebrating that the loss is not happening "fast enough" - what difference will that make in the long run? One or 3 years, the result will be the same: rump shrunken Ukraine, maybe half of the size it could have been, and Nato's expansion to Ukraine blocked. Celebrate that.

    Replies: @German_reader, @A123

    For clarity, please let me insert some numbers in your questions:

    The lack of justification has been startling. Why do it?

    [1] Why expand Nato after the end of the Cold War?
    [2] Why leave the ABM and other treaties?
    [3] Why place ‘defensive’ missiles on the Russian border in Poland and Romania?

    #1 — Indeed provocative. The 3 Baltic States were a mistake. Including Poland made much more sense in terms on contiguous line that could cover Germany.

    #2 — The new Great Game is U.S./China. Any bilateral treaty that locked in a CCP advantage was doomed. Both Russia and the U.S. were effectively out of compliance with INF. It was not written with cruise instead of ballistic intermediate range as a concept.

    #3 — It was more about NATO internals. Intended to support countries paying their 2%+ for NATO standing. And, gave America more reliable partners than the “core” deadbeat states. It is understandable that Russia believed it was about them, and should have been explained better behind closed doors.

    The more vicious acts, such as the Collective Punishment Dam built soon after Maiden, were so over the line of sanity that Russia had to respond. Merkel’s personal tanking of the Minsk deal was an intolerable offense.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    A123 wrote:


    [The INF Treaty] was not written with cruise instead of ballistic intermediate range as a concept.
     
    I think this is incorrect. After signing, the USA decommissioned the Ground Launched Cruise Missile (GLCM) which is basically a Tomahawk missile; this was in addition to decommissioning the more well known Pershing II intermediate-range ballistic missile. You have previously argued that the USA dropped out of the Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty due to a perceived threat from China. Others have made the case that Russia side stepped that treaty by deploying small ships which carry long range missiles. Both of these claims have some merit, but miss the point entirely. The USA dropping treaties and making aggressive moves broke the TRUST which had slowly been nurtured since the Cuban missile crisis. I believe the Russians have argued the USA was in violation of the INF treaty once the missile site was operational in Romania several years before the USA actually dropped out of the INF treaty, since the missile canisters can potentially carry Tomahawk missiles.

    We were all safer when the trust was still intact.

    The USA did make some weak claims that Russia violated the INF treaty with a long range cruise missile for the Iskander system. Apparently there were arguments over the Open Skies Treaty as well. Unfortunately, the West had already seriously damaged the trust which this entire treaty process was built on, so these very minor squabbles were used as an excuse to weaken arms control even more. It seems that some people do still care about it, so I am hopeful that multi-party negotiations will happen if we make it that long.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Beckow
    @A123


    ...The 3 Baltic States were a mistake. Including Poland made much more sense in terms on contiguous line that could cover Germany.
     
    But why expand at all? The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first. It made no sense to us, we didn't care, but it was non-negotiable.

    US left the ABM Treaty unilaterally in 2001. It was not about compliance or anything - Bush simply announced that US was leaving. Shortly after that they announced that NATO will put 'defensive' missiles in Romania and Poland. That was the end of any arms control, without the ABM treaty none of the other stuff made any sense. US never explained "why", they mumbled something about N Korea and Iran, but this was in Poland. When people lie, they lie for a reason. It got us to this war.


    more about NATO internals. Intended to support countries paying their 2%
     
    Russia didn't see it that way - no normal country would. Nobody cares about "budgetary" issues - US issues virtual money at will, why would they care about few billions spent by Germany on weapons? It is an excuse. This is not about "money" and never was - it is about the neo-con dreams and the resources those dreams could bring.

    Replies: @German_reader, @A123

  641. German_reader says:
    @AnonfromTN
    @German_reader

    Yes, there were situational alliances. When Britain and Prussia figured that they cannot beat Napoleon, they did ally with Russia on the assumption that Russia can beat anyone. When Britain figured that it cannot beat Hitler, it allied with the USSR on the same assumption. Both times this assumption proved correct.

    However, as subsequent events showed, these alliances were seen as purely situational by European powers. After Napoleon was defeated, Britain and France took the side of historic enemy of Europe, Turkey, against Russia in Crimean war (1853-56). After the defeat of Hitler European powers willingly joined NATO, then an anti-USSR (today anti-Russian) alliance. I can give many more examples of duplicity of European powers, but these two would suffice.

    Replies: @German_reader

    After Napoleon was defeated, Britain and France took the side of historic enemy of Europe, Turkey, against Russia in Crimean war (1853-56).

    Didn’t prevent Russia’s later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century).
    Alliances are always situational (or at least should be, the current status with NATO is rather unhealthy).

    I can give many more examples of duplicity of European powers

    That’s just typical great power behavior, wouldn’t be difficult to claim the same about Russia.
    imo these ideas of some unchanging eternal struggle are ahistorical and a misinterpretation of the current conflict, but I know, there’s no point to arguing about it.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader


    Didn’t prevent Russia’s later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century).

     

    Do you consider the dissolution of the Three Emperors' League to have been a blunder? I do, since it made a general European war astronomically more likely than would have been the case had this alliance remained intact. With this alliance remaining in place, a general European war would have probably been nearly impossible since challenging this alliance, like challenging NATO, would have been nearly impossible, at least in a direct war.
    , @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    Didn't prevent Russia's later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century)
     
    Nonsense. This "neutrality" you're talking of was one of the biggest betrayals and acts of duplicity in history. Also useless when it results in 3 major Empires fighting against only one.

    In late 1840s, entirely because of Russia, the A-H empire remained the A-H empire because Russia was critical to stopping the Hungarian rebellion against the Austrians. I don't see ANY thing Russia could have gained from participating in this - especially as they didn't (for whatever reason) demand ancient Russian lands in Galicia or Carpathian region in exchange for this help

    Russia would have reasonably expected Austro-Hungarian to repay their debt to them for this by joining Russia in coalition for any wars involving the other big powers around Europe. Certainly the pre-war stage of the Crimean war would assume the Tsar expecting Germanic support in this war. So a betrayal (and I think A-H & Prussia did some things on their territory that assisted Ottomans, British and French).

    Prussia /A-H by then effectively a confederation for these things.

    That's just typical great power behaviour, wouldn't be difficult to say the same about Russia
     
    Entire Russian history of last 400 years is selfless pan-slavic and/or pan-orthodox unity efforts. Often for completely zero economic or political benefit, solely moral. Zero similarity to this for French scum or British.

    Romania and Bulgaria entirely created as independent states because of Russian successful wars against Ottomans. All we received from this was subhuman German-prostitute "elites" in these 2 states who non-stop betrayed Russia after, most noticeably for either or both world wars

    Creation and reunification of Russian lands of "Ukraine" from decision of Zemsky Sobor is defacto an invitation to war again with Poland in the 17th century. Although just Poland, it's still a war Russia was not wanting, so accepting petition of Zaporizhian cossacks was certainly action of altruism

    Only after that should the wars for trading position /security be considered...... such as for the Baltics, Caucasus and Siberia.

    Replies: @German_reader

  642. @AnonfromTN
    @22pp22


    I do not know who or what to believe.
     
    I can suggest a technique we used back in the USSR. First, get the reports from both sides (the nature gave us two eyes because you cannot see the world adequately from only one perspective). Second, discard everything either side tells you that is in its interests or supports its favorite narrative: these “reports” have very high probability of being lies, like American libtard stories about economic successes (libtards keep bemoaning the fact that US consumers do not feel this way; this situation is best described by a Russian joke “the people did not justify the trust of the government”). Third, apply your common sense to whatever remains: the events have their logic, so anything that appears to offend your common sense is likely untrue. Like, when someone claims that one side is winning the war while it is actually retreating. Fourth, try some objective sources. E.g., the site https://www.flightradar24.com/24.85,45.40/2 shows live the flights all over the world. When your propaganda tells you that Ukraine is a decent country and you see that nobody flies over it, you get the true picture. This method is rather laborious and imperfect, but a lot better than believing the propaganda of either side if you want to know the real picture.

    I get the info from my relatives and friends who are right now in Russia and Ukraine, and from my personal experience during my regular visits to Russia (now, thanks to the puppet masters of our Alzheimer-in-chief, via roundabout routes: thank goodness, there are plenty). I appreciate that most people do not have these direct sources.

    Replies: @AP

    I get the info from my relatives and friends who are right now in Russia and Ukraine, and from my personal experience during my regular visits to Russia

    The problem with your approach – in your case – is that you very often write complete nonsense about Ukraine. So are your contacts feeding you disinformation or are you just making things up?

    Here’s a recent example, your nonsense is easily verifiable:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-238/#comment-6352459

    You wrote: “Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev.”

    Reality:

    Since 1992, 19 metro stations were built in Kiev.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyiv_Metro_stations

    Here is one of them, which opened in 2012:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipodrom_(Kyiv_Metro)

    :::::::::::

    Pretty much anything you write about post-Soviet Ukraine is equally unrealistic and nonsensical.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    Thanks for being such a good illustration how pathetic the Ukies are. Why don’t you post that same picture for the third time, to drive the point home?

    Replies: @AP

    , @Gerard1234
    @AP

    LMAO at this hilarious piece of socipathic idiocy from yourself. The sequence is explainable like this:

    1. AnonFromTN is a guy who knows Ukraine very well, knows the people, lived there
    2.AnonFromTN is a guy who knows Kiev and Kiev metro very well, taken journeys on it, knows the network
    3. You though are a heavily disturbed POS who doesn't know Ukraine in anyway, know anything about the people and certainly haven't lived or grown up there. Sure as f**k you have never done journey on Kiev metro ( or I should add Kievskaya metro station in Moscow)
    4. To make things even worse for you and your predetermined BS, the Kiev metro under inept leadership has had 2 disasters in the last 7 months. Big ones.........and the whole existence and concept of Kiev Metro is the most Soviet thing there is. Even more Soviet than the hammer and sickle, LOL.
    5. To correct this imbalance where AnonfromTN's comment have authority and yours zero - an insecure tramp as yourself comes up with this nonsense to "discredit" AnonFromTN, so to make your inept position and circumstances not look so tragicomic.


    You wrote: “Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev.”
     
    1.He clearly means Metro LINE you idiot - its a disgrace that not a single new metro line has been built in 404 since 1991
    2Even if he didn't, it's irrelevant because its extremely easy to interchange the 3 different stages of f**kups of Banderastan you idiot - 1991, 2004, 2014 - because all the same catastrophic failures and nothing happening can either be merged into one period of khokhol disaster in the memory....or interchanged. I do it all the time
    3. Mispeak are complete non-stories, I did it myself the other day (used vatnik!!!, when I intended to write gopnik...about this freak Zaluzhny)
    4.How many different things detailing catastrophic post-Sovet Ukraine can start with the sentence
    "Since 1991 Kiev or Ukraine has not built or achieved a single....................".
    Do you want me to go through that gigantic list?
    5.Different to you he can be trusted to be telling the truth......you can be "trusted" to have numerous spamtroll accounts and for (inept) disinformation

    Since 1992, 19 metro stations were built in Kiev.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyiv_Metro_stations

    Here is one of them, which opened in 2012:
     
    Most of those stations are SOVIET era projects you useless retard, LMAO. Designed and approved in Soviet era you dumbf**k. Most even started then ( Soviet investment in ukrop infrastructure was unnecessarily huge in the 1980s) . And ALL of them , including the rare post-soviet projects were still designed by the old Soviet design bureau!! The names of those designers ethnically, are from memory not so khokholised.

    So summary:

    1. ZERO new lines have been built since 1991- which perfectly shows Banderastan for the last 33 years
    2. A pitiful small number of stations have been built in Kiev metro for the last 33 years
    With that of course is a pitiful small length of track laid for the last 33 years- for a city of that large size, and would even be pitiful for a much smaller city.
    3.Of the newest stations, most of them I wouldn't even call them much of a metro extension. There is no real activity that either the Kiev region is expanding towards Kiev city and so the metro expanding from these places joining together ( as exactly is happening in Moscow). Neither is there sense that despite the population increase, the metro is expanding inline with where people are living......some of these few new ones are like they are there for servicing the outside Kiev transport arrangements to the rest of the country ( similar to what some of the foreign metros are doing for the far from there "nearest" international airports, though its not like this for Kiev you idiot
    4. No new stations since Maidan itself is a very indicative thing ( and many Kiev people I know say MANY things about that)
    5. In Kazan we have a beautiful newish metro.......compare us in the last decade to Kiev?!!! ROFLMAO. Saint Petersburg, Moscow of course huge expansion of network, and the same for every other city around the world , even those much smaller than Kiev.

    Replies: @AP

  643. @silviosilver
    @Beckow


    It had many layers – but it was really about showing an African version of the endless white “Wakandas” movies of the past. Or do you actually think that the Anglo “Wakandas” celebrating everything from the world conquest to “winning the WW2 in Normandy” were any less Wakandish?
     
    Obviously they were less Wakandish. Wakanda was created solely to boost black cultural self-esteem (in the vain hope it'll improve black life outcomes). Celebratory depictions of American achievements are at least based on something real. But the insinuation that Americans have failed to be self-critical is so self-evidently idiotic (if they haven't been, then no one has) that only an envy-ridden commie worm would make it.

    Even a great movie like Casablanca is a silly “Wakanda” story about a loser New York drunk fighting the “Nazis”…and winning!!!
     
    Lol, of all the examples you could have chosen, it's telling you settle on this one. Yeah we get it, you're deeply offended by any reference to westerners fighting the Nazis. Bow down and worship the Soviets is the only choice you offer people.

    Well, who knows, with Russians behaving the way they are, maybe westerners will start celebrating their role in WW2 not only as fighting the Nazis but saving the Europe from the commies (aka Russians). A historical distortion? Only slightly, and one I would happily ignore.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Beckow

    “Casablanca” takes place in Africa and is about as Wakandish as they get: a fairy tale to motivate people and do some self-worship. But if that offends you because of the WW2 theme, how about the Bond movies? Can any movie be any more “Wakanda”? Or Superman if you want an outright “we can also do magic”…

    There are endless examples of Hollywood Wakanda, from most Westerns to “we kicked ass in Afghanistan!” that vary only stylistically (and in quality) from the Afro-Wakanda. Why would you object to your fellow Afros having their own fairy tales with magic and self-celebration?

    WW2 films are a good example, but it is a long time ago – interestingly the real WW2-Wakanda in Hollywood only started decades after 1945. Earlier when people actually remembered it would be too embarrassing. But I see you have no problem with that, narcisisists don’t experience shame. So re-write at will, but you can never build stable societies on lies, it always catches up.

  644. @German_reader
    @Beckow

    I'd agree that Western policy was quite provocative, but you're essentially arguing in favour of preventive war. Now one can argue that in this too the West had established a precedent with the justifications used for the Iraq war (just as Kosovo and other "humanitarian interventions" furnished other precedents for how Russia justified its actions in Ukraine), but do you really think there was no other choice at all? Starting wars on the basis of what might happen in the future isn't likely to lead to greater stability in international relations. Also makes a total mockery of the pro-sovereignty arguments Russia used to make, essentially it's just open might makes right now.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Beckow

    preventive war…Starting wars on the basis of what might happen in the future isn’t likely to lead to greater stability

    True, we are now in a very unstable world. But it was the West who started it with their aggressive wars and they are doing it again in Gaza-Yemen etc…Why should others, e.g. Russia, live by the rules West openly breaks?

    Regarding Russia’s choice in 2022: it was either do nothing or start a war. They seemingly went for a half-ass mini-war and tried to settle it quickly – the forces they used were small. It didn’t work, got escalated and we are in a big war. Sh..t happens…

    Doing nothing was not an option for Russia: they couldn’t sit back and wait for Nato-in-Ukraine with bases, missiles, and the nationalist Ukies’ fierce hostility with all the ‘disputed’ territories and the Russian Crimean Navy bases at risk.

    …Western policy was quite provocative

    Provocative is a weak word. Why do you use weak terms about one side and very loaded terms like “aggression”, “empire-building” etc…about Russia. That is a big part of the problem. It was “aggressive”, let’s call spade a spade.

    But why did they do it? They never explained it, so obviously Russia suspected the worst.

  645. @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    I think the cynical leadership in many places is still happy to have an excuse to kill off "useless eaters" in 100,000 man lots. Zelensky's handlers seem to be in this group. All of these idiots in power believe in the broken window fallacy so they can rationalize a war along the lines of "...even if we lose it is still a win since there is a fresh start...", or something similarly monstrous.

    For Russia the situation is different. They recognized the West was willing to attack them and now they had an internal justification to reestablish a world-class combat force. They do this by rotating 100,000's of thousands of men through the combat theatre. Since this is largely seen as a just cause this will greatly increase Russian civilian support for the military. It will also seed the entire military with seasoned combat veterans who will not be tolerant of whatever corruption exists within the system.

    I think Russia's battle plan requires answering the question of "How do we pacify and reintegrate Ukraine after the combat phase of the SMO?" I think this next phase will require a lot of armed men whose job is to be supportive and menacing. Considering how polarized and heavily armed Ukraine was in 2022, Russia did not have enough such men at the time.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Unless the Ukrainian forces collapse, which looks an increasingly likely prospect, it will be difficult to take any major city without widespread destruction,. I suspect Kherson rather than Bakhmut will be the case for Odessa etc.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    LondonBob wrote:


    Unless the Ukrainian forces collapse, which looks an increasingly likely prospect, it will be difficult to take any major city without widespread destruction.

     

    This is why the Russian campaign of grinding warfare seems completely intentional. If their enemies continue to accommodate this plan, Russia may keep grinding until the Ukrainian political power structure collapses. As long as Russia's economy is stable, dragging this out as long as possible may be in her interest.

    Replies: @Beckow

  646. @A123
    @Beckow

    For clarity, please let me insert some numbers in your questions:


    The lack of justification has been startling. Why do it?

    [1] Why expand Nato after the end of the Cold War?
    [2] Why leave the ABM and other treaties?
    [3] Why place ‘defensive’ missiles on the Russian border in Poland and Romania?
     
    #1 -- Indeed provocative. The 3 Baltic States were a mistake. Including Poland made much more sense in terms on contiguous line that could cover Germany.

    #2 -- The new Great Game is U.S./China. Any bilateral treaty that locked in a CCP advantage was doomed. Both Russia and the U.S. were effectively out of compliance with INF. It was not written with cruise instead of ballistic intermediate range as a concept.

    #3 -- It was more about NATO internals. Intended to support countries paying their 2%+ for NATO standing. And, gave America more reliable partners than the "core" deadbeat states. It is understandable that Russia believed it was about them, and should have been explained better behind closed doors.

    The more vicious acts, such as the Collective Punishment Dam built soon after Maiden, were so over the line of sanity that Russia had to respond. Merkel's personal tanking of the Minsk deal was an intolerable offense.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    A123 wrote:

    [The INF Treaty] was not written with cruise instead of ballistic intermediate range as a concept.

    I think this is incorrect. After signing, the USA decommissioned the Ground Launched Cruise Missile (GLCM) which is basically a Tomahawk missile; this was in addition to decommissioning the more well known Pershing II intermediate-range ballistic missile. You have previously argued that the USA dropped out of the Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty due to a perceived threat from China. Others have made the case that Russia side stepped that treaty by deploying small ships which carry long range missiles. Both of these claims have some merit, but miss the point entirely. The USA dropping treaties and making aggressive moves broke the TRUST which had slowly been nurtured since the Cuban missile crisis. I believe the Russians have argued the USA was in violation of the INF treaty once the missile site was operational in Romania several years before the USA actually dropped out of the INF treaty, since the missile canisters can potentially carry Tomahawk missiles.

    We were all safer when the trust was still intact.

    The USA did make some weak claims that Russia violated the INF treaty with a long range cruise missile for the Iskander system. Apparently there were arguments over the Open Skies Treaty as well. Unfortunately, the West had already seriously damaged the trust which this entire treaty process was built on, so these very minor squabbles were used as an excuse to weaken arms control even more. It seems that some people do still care about it, so I am hopeful that multi-party negotiations will happen if we make it that long.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    We were all safer when the trust was still intact.
     
    Maybe. But today trust is gone for at least several decades, if not forever. No point crying over spilled milk. More than half of Russian population considers the West to be non-agreement capable.

    If Russia reaches some security arrangement with the empire and its sidekicks after it beats the Western gang in Ukraine, it will be in a totally different format: a verifiable agreement between enemies both of which are sure that the other will slit its throat given half a chance.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  647. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    I get the info from my relatives and friends who are right now in Russia and Ukraine, and from my personal experience during my regular visits to Russia
     
    The problem with your approach - in your case - is that you very often write complete nonsense about Ukraine. So are your contacts feeding you disinformation or are you just making things up?

    Here's a recent example, your nonsense is easily verifiable:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-238/#comment-6352459

    You wrote: "Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev."

    Reality:

    Since 1992, 19 metro stations were built in Kiev.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyiv_Metro_stations

    Here is one of them, which opened in 2012:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipodrom_(Kyiv_Metro)

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Ipodrom_station_%28Kiev_metro%29.JPG

    :::::::::::

    Pretty much anything you write about post-Soviet Ukraine is equally unrealistic and nonsensical.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    Thanks for being such a good illustration how pathetic the Ukies are. Why don’t you post that same picture for the third time, to drive the point home?

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    New thread, it’s good to show people how clueless you are about Ukraine. Whenever you try to write something authoritative about the country, it’s a good example of the reality.

    Any comment on having been caught writing total nonsense about a country you claim to know something about?

  648. German_reader says:
    @songbird
    @German_reader

    Pretty crazy how they jailed Sam Melia in the UK essentially for putting up stickers.

    BTW, wouldn't be entirely surprised if Musk donated sperm like Shockley. Seems similarly aware of things, even if he isn't as open about it.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Pretty crazy how they jailed Sam Melia in the UK essentially for putting up stickers.

    Probably wasn’t a good idea to have one with “2nd generation, 3rd generation, 4th generation…you still have to go back”, that can easily be interpreted as attempted intimidation. But on the whole, of course absurdly draconian.
    Btw, the BRD regime has now banned Martin Sellner from entering Germany. Probably the only foreigner who’s going to be turned back at the border. Just grotesque.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @German_reader


    Btw, the BRD regime has now banned Martin Sellner from entering Germany
     
    They really seemed to have gone nuts over his speech.

    Had heard vaguely that it was about assisted remigration of non-citizens or something.

    Can't figure out the reaction exactly. My instinct would be to interpret it as a political campaign - something started or promoted at the party level, for some wider purpose.

    It's tempting to associate it with some preparatory move against the AfD, but I have heard some dismiss the idea of a party ban actually taking place. Maybe, it is more like minority outreach. Or even the pols reacting to some media campaign.

    Replies: @German_reader

  649. @LondonBob
    @QCIC

    Unless the Ukrainian forces collapse, which looks an increasingly likely prospect, it will be difficult to take any major city without widespread destruction,. I suspect Kherson rather than Bakhmut will be the case for Odessa etc.

    Replies: @QCIC

    LondonBob wrote:

    Unless the Ukrainian forces collapse, which looks an increasingly likely prospect, it will be difficult to take any major city without widespread destruction.

    This is why the Russian campaign of grinding warfare seems completely intentional. If their enemies continue to accommodate this plan, Russia may keep grinding until the Ukrainian political power structure collapses. As long as Russia’s economy is stable, dragging this out as long as possible may be in her interest.

    • Agree: Derer
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC

    I agree that's what they are doing, but it is harder than that. Even a few thousand die-hards dugged in a city can force a total urban destruction.

    One way to deal with it is to cut off the supplies - but if the Ukies have any brains the cities are full of weapons and ammunition. So we are in for some sh.tty times, Mariupol had only a few thousands die-hards and they forced the city to be mostly destroyed.

    The West wants Russia to get a destroyed country, they don't care what it does to the poor Ukies. The die-hards are of no interest, most won't make it out.

    Russia still seems to prefer a negotiated collapse - maybe the more normal Ukies taking care of the fanatics. But they may be misreading the dynamic and it won't happen. No matter what Ukraine will have millions fewer people and will be largely destroyed.

    It could had been quite a country: large, prosperous, getting rich...all they had to do is stay neutral and keep the crazies under control. Like Austria after 1955. But they were not smart enough for that.

    Replies: @Svidomyatheart

  650. @A123
    @Beckow

    For clarity, please let me insert some numbers in your questions:


    The lack of justification has been startling. Why do it?

    [1] Why expand Nato after the end of the Cold War?
    [2] Why leave the ABM and other treaties?
    [3] Why place ‘defensive’ missiles on the Russian border in Poland and Romania?
     
    #1 -- Indeed provocative. The 3 Baltic States were a mistake. Including Poland made much more sense in terms on contiguous line that could cover Germany.

    #2 -- The new Great Game is U.S./China. Any bilateral treaty that locked in a CCP advantage was doomed. Both Russia and the U.S. were effectively out of compliance with INF. It was not written with cruise instead of ballistic intermediate range as a concept.

    #3 -- It was more about NATO internals. Intended to support countries paying their 2%+ for NATO standing. And, gave America more reliable partners than the "core" deadbeat states. It is understandable that Russia believed it was about them, and should have been explained better behind closed doors.

    The more vicious acts, such as the Collective Punishment Dam built soon after Maiden, were so over the line of sanity that Russia had to respond. Merkel's personal tanking of the Minsk deal was an intolerable offense.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC, @Beckow

    …The 3 Baltic States were a mistake. Including Poland made much more sense in terms on contiguous line that could cover Germany.

    But why expand at all? The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first. It made no sense to us, we didn’t care, but it was non-negotiable.

    US left the ABM Treaty unilaterally in 2001. It was not about compliance or anything – Bush simply announced that US was leaving. Shortly after that they announced that NATO will put ‘defensive’ missiles in Romania and Poland. That was the end of any arms control, without the ABM treaty none of the other stuff made any sense. US never explained “why”, they mumbled something about N Korea and Iran, but this was in Poland. When people lie, they lie for a reason. It got us to this war.

    more about NATO internals. Intended to support countries paying their 2%

    Russia didn’t see it that way – no normal country would. Nobody cares about “budgetary” issues – US issues virtual money at will, why would they care about few billions spent by Germany on weapons? It is an excuse. This is not about “money” and never was – it is about the neo-con dreams and the resources those dreams could bring.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Beckow


    The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first.
     
    There's a book by Mary E. Sarotte about NATO expansion ("Not one inch"), have already forgotten a lot of the details, but I'm pretty sure Poland and Hungary at least expressed an interest in NATO membership as early as 1990. Czechoslovakia too iirc.
    Of course there might have been alternatives (Germany's foreign minister Genscher had some vague ideas about replacing NATO and the Warsaw pact with some new collective security system, but other parts of the German establishment and the Americans weren't interested), and it's also true that on at least two occasions assurances were made to Russia that NATO wouldn't be expanded (even if those weren't on the level of formal guarantees).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    , @A123
    @Beckow



    It is understandable that Russia believed it was about them, and should have been explained better behind closed doors.
     
    Russia didn’t see it that way – no normal country would
     
    Normal countries do understand the difference between slackers and those doing their share. Shifting NATO resources to countries meeting their NATO obligations was logical and explainable.

    As I conceded, this was not well covered in public. There should have been better behind the scenes contacts to make sure that Russia did not misunderstand the actual intent.

    The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first. It made no sense to us, we didn’t care, but it was non-negotiable.
     
    I do not claim to understand the linkage at the time.

    That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow

  651. @QCIC
    @LondonBob

    LondonBob wrote:


    Unless the Ukrainian forces collapse, which looks an increasingly likely prospect, it will be difficult to take any major city without widespread destruction.

     

    This is why the Russian campaign of grinding warfare seems completely intentional. If their enemies continue to accommodate this plan, Russia may keep grinding until the Ukrainian political power structure collapses. As long as Russia's economy is stable, dragging this out as long as possible may be in her interest.

    Replies: @Beckow

    I agree that’s what they are doing, but it is harder than that. Even a few thousand die-hards dugged in a city can force a total urban destruction.

    One way to deal with it is to cut off the supplies – but if the Ukies have any brains the cities are full of weapons and ammunition. So we are in for some sh.tty times, Mariupol had only a few thousands die-hards and they forced the city to be mostly destroyed.

    The West wants Russia to get a destroyed country, they don’t care what it does to the poor Ukies. The die-hards are of no interest, most won’t make it out.

    Russia still seems to prefer a negotiated collapse – maybe the more normal Ukies taking care of the fanatics. But they may be misreading the dynamic and it won’t happen. No matter what Ukraine will have millions fewer people and will be largely destroyed.

    It could had been quite a country: large, prosperous, getting rich…all they had to do is stay neutral and keep the crazies under control. Like Austria after 1955. But they were not smart enough for that.

    • Replies: @Svidomyatheart
    @Beckow

    Beckow you cheerleading Russian f*ggt

    I have a post for you from like 2 years ago that I saved...even after like 2 years I remembered, ill tryto get around posting what "Russian nationalists" want to do to your country once they consolidate control

    Replies: @LatW

  652. German_reader says:
    @Beckow
    @A123


    ...The 3 Baltic States were a mistake. Including Poland made much more sense in terms on contiguous line that could cover Germany.
     
    But why expand at all? The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first. It made no sense to us, we didn't care, but it was non-negotiable.

    US left the ABM Treaty unilaterally in 2001. It was not about compliance or anything - Bush simply announced that US was leaving. Shortly after that they announced that NATO will put 'defensive' missiles in Romania and Poland. That was the end of any arms control, without the ABM treaty none of the other stuff made any sense. US never explained "why", they mumbled something about N Korea and Iran, but this was in Poland. When people lie, they lie for a reason. It got us to this war.


    more about NATO internals. Intended to support countries paying their 2%
     
    Russia didn't see it that way - no normal country would. Nobody cares about "budgetary" issues - US issues virtual money at will, why would they care about few billions spent by Germany on weapons? It is an excuse. This is not about "money" and never was - it is about the neo-con dreams and the resources those dreams could bring.

    Replies: @German_reader, @A123

    The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first.

    There’s a book by Mary E. Sarotte about NATO expansion (“Not one inch”), have already forgotten a lot of the details, but I’m pretty sure Poland and Hungary at least expressed an interest in NATO membership as early as 1990. Czechoslovakia too iirc.
    Of course there might have been alternatives (Germany’s foreign minister Genscher had some vague ideas about replacing NATO and the Warsaw pact with some new collective security system, but other parts of the German establishment and the Americans weren’t interested), and it’s also true that on at least two occasions assurances were made to Russia that NATO wouldn’t be expanded (even if those weren’t on the level of formal guarantees).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @German_reader

    Expressing interest is very far from what happened. There were always political forces in V4 who wanted to join Nato, even some who openly advocated revanche on the pre-1989 era. But they were not a majority, people didn't care or were generally opposed - nobody though that having wars and military alliances was cool or that it mattered. Maybe the Poles were slightly different, but not really.

    What happened was that in the mid-90's the V4 countries were told directly that first they needed to join Nato - and no referendums were allowed and none took place. They had to privatize the local industries and allow them to be bought by the Western investors. They had to turn over all major media to to the Western approved owners. That's what happened and it took a few years to implement.

    But nobody in V4 was rushing to join Nato, why would we want to? If you asked most people who they wanted to be like, it would Austria....but they told us that was not to be. And now they are lining us up for the sacrifices in the east. But I don't think we will go...

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @German_reader

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    The interesting thing is that had Russia told the West that it would be willing to take a tough line on China in exchange for getting a European collective security system, then maybe the West, including the US, would be more interested in listening to such a proposal. And by "hard line", I mean a REALLY hard line where Russia agrees to do to China what the US did to Japan back in 1941 if China will ever go to war with the US, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, or the Philippines.

  653. You have previously argued that the USA dropped out of the Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty due to a perceived threat from China.

    That suggestion is for the ABM treaty, not INF. Given the sheer number of times you have made the exact same treaties case, I may have garbled the exact same response a few times while pointing out exactly the same flaws.

    Absent new material that changes context, why are we doing this yet again?

    After signing, the USA decommissioned the Ground Launched Cruise Missile (GLCM) which is basically a Tomahawk missile; this was in addition to decommissioning the more well known Pershing II intermediate-range ballistic missile.

    Others have made the case that Russia side stepped that [INF] treaty by deploying small ships which carry long range missiles.

    You are technically accurate, but miss the point. Air launched cruise was not covered by INF and was preferred by USAF. Moving 100% of the warheads to non-covered systems had no impact on strategic posture. It was symbolism, not substance.

    Both forces side stepped the INF. There are a variety of intermediate options that achieve the same strategic purpose. The INF was functionality obsolete long before it ended.

    The USA dropping treaties and making aggressive moves broke the TRUST

    You are commingling two different things.

    • expected treaty terminations (per terms specified in those documents)
    • unanticipated, aggressive moves

    Leaving 2 treaties for incredibly obvious reasons, ABM/China and IMF/obsolete had 0%, zilch, nada, impact on trust. Just the opposite, 100% TRUST was maintained as the forms were scrupulously followed during the scheduled wind down. Russia may have been peeved at the ABM exit, but they were not surprised.

    You are correct that aggressive moves are of critical importance. However, that should be focused on more current events. The war crime of building the Collective Punishment Dam burned trust to the ground. Merkel’s perfidy on Minsk was also obvious and extremely inflammatory.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: QCIC
  654. @German_reader
    @songbird


    Pretty crazy how they jailed Sam Melia in the UK essentially for putting up stickers.
     
    Probably wasn't a good idea to have one with "2nd generation, 3rd generation, 4th generation...you still have to go back", that can easily be interpreted as attempted intimidation. But on the whole, of course absurdly draconian.
    Btw, the BRD regime has now banned Martin Sellner from entering Germany. Probably the only foreigner who's going to be turned back at the border. Just grotesque.

    Replies: @songbird

    Btw, the BRD regime has now banned Martin Sellner from entering Germany

    They really seemed to have gone nuts over his speech.

    Had heard vaguely that it was about assisted remigration of non-citizens or something.

    Can’t figure out the reaction exactly. My instinct would be to interpret it as a political campaign – something started or promoted at the party level, for some wider purpose.

    It’s tempting to associate it with some preparatory move against the AfD, but I have heard some dismiss the idea of a party ban actually taking place. Maybe, it is more like minority outreach. Or even the pols reacting to some media campaign.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @songbird


    Can’t figure out the reaction exactly. My instinct would be to interpret it as a political campaign – something started or promoted at the party level, for some wider purpose.
     
    It's part of the campaign to crush AfD, no doubt about it. I don't know whether they'll go for a formal ban, but it's definitely possible, several politicians from across the establishment parties have called for it. There are also other proposals, like stripping especially radical AfD politicians (notably Björn Höcke, who's seen as a sort of Hitler 2.0) of their basic rights, so they can't stand for political office anymore, or excluding AfD from the public funding parties are entitled to.
    Anyway, it's only going to get worse, no prospect for a happy ending here.
  655. @Beckow
    @A123


    ...The 3 Baltic States were a mistake. Including Poland made much more sense in terms on contiguous line that could cover Germany.
     
    But why expand at all? The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first. It made no sense to us, we didn't care, but it was non-negotiable.

    US left the ABM Treaty unilaterally in 2001. It was not about compliance or anything - Bush simply announced that US was leaving. Shortly after that they announced that NATO will put 'defensive' missiles in Romania and Poland. That was the end of any arms control, without the ABM treaty none of the other stuff made any sense. US never explained "why", they mumbled something about N Korea and Iran, but this was in Poland. When people lie, they lie for a reason. It got us to this war.


    more about NATO internals. Intended to support countries paying their 2%
     
    Russia didn't see it that way - no normal country would. Nobody cares about "budgetary" issues - US issues virtual money at will, why would they care about few billions spent by Germany on weapons? It is an excuse. This is not about "money" and never was - it is about the neo-con dreams and the resources those dreams could bring.

    Replies: @German_reader, @A123

    It is understandable that Russia believed it was about them, and should have been explained better behind closed doors.

    Russia didn’t see it that way – no normal country would

    Normal countries do understand the difference between slackers and those doing their share. Shifting NATO resources to countries meeting their NATO obligations was logical and explainable.

    As I conceded, this was not well covered in public. There should have been better behind the scenes contacts to make sure that Russia did not misunderstand the actual intent.

    The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first. It made no sense to us, we didn’t care, but it was non-negotiable.

    I do not claim to understand the linkage at the time.

    That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123


    ...That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.
     
    Is it? How would you know? All potential EU candidates - not only Ukraine - are also now on track to join Nato, there are about 6 of them. No exceptions. Even non-Nato EU members are being pressured to join like Finland-Sweden. Theoretically there are exceptions but what V4 went through has not changed.

    One reason given is that Nato is needed to guarantee the security of the 'investments' - it is a straight-forward vassal-tribute system hidden behind empty slogans ("values") and by complex, remote institutions. You live off it, so enjoy while it lasts.


    Shifting NATO resources to countries meeting their NATO obligations was logical
     
    Obligations, as you call it, amount to a few tens of billions of dollars - chump change of no importance when the history is being made. You don't understand the neo-cons...

    Replies: @A123

  656. @A123
    @Not Raul


    Are you sure it was Mitch McConnell?
     
    I was very curious about who they were talking about. She seemed to know what he meant.

     
    Many whose profession depends on understanding the webs of power in DC trace it back to McConnell. For example: (1)

    Michael Patrick Leahy appears on Steve Bannon War Romm discussing, in part, the Jeff DeWit message to Kari Lake and who from “back east” was the originator of the message to bribe Mrs Lake to stay out of the Arizona senate race.

    As expected, the sources for MPL’s report outline that Mitch McConnell and the National Republican Senatorial Committee originated the proposal. This should not be a surprise to anyone who reads CTH. The NRSC is primarily funded by the biggest lobbying group, the U.S Chamber of Commerce. The USCoC fund the legislative priorities of the Senate and Mitch McConnell does their bidding. In essence the bribe money would come from the USCoC into the NRSC.

    [Jump to time 3:00]
    https://rumble.com/embed/v46hv2r/

     

    Anonymous sources are always frustrating to those of us on the outside, but Leahy has a decent track record. The non-anonymous fact that no one is going on record with an official denial strongly suggests he is digging in the right place. What is on the rest of the tape?

    Mitch McConnell clearly has the most to gain. Both in terms of his personal power in 2024 and shaping the institution as his legacy. He also has the resources, via the NRSC, to deliver on "name your price". The preponderance of the evidence points to him.

    If not Mitch McConnell, who else would it be?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/24/michael-patrick-leahy-sources-the-jeff-dewit-message-came-from-the-nrsc-aka-mitch-mcconnell/

    Replies: @Not Raul

    If not Mitch McConnell, who else would it be?

    Good question.

    “Back east” is more likely to mean the East Coast.

    I would look to major donors on the East Coast, especially the major cities.

    I think that Mitch could be involved; but I think that, considering he isn’t what he used to be mentally, his big donors could have played a bigger role.

    Mitch has a lot of big Wall Street donors, like Blackstone. I doubt that Lake is their cup of tea.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/mitch-mcconnell/contributors?cid=N00003389&cycle=CAREER

    The Blackstone founder had interesting things to say in 2015.

    https://money.cnn.com/2015/04/29/investing/blackstone-schwarzman-gop-presidential-election/index.html

    • Replies: @A123
    @Not Raul


    I think that Mitch could be involved; but I think that, considering he isn’t what he used to be mentally, his big donors could have played a bigger role.

    Mitch has a lot of big Wall Street donors, like Blackstone. I doubt that Lake is their cup of tea.
     
    It is not impossible, but consider the mechanics of a bribe transaction. The person accepting had to believe that the individual offering:

    -1- Personally needs action
    -2- Has the resources
    -3- Will follow through
    -4- Can keep the secret
    -5- Not a set-up

    A faceless Blackstone droog may wish the event, however the potential bribe taker would lack faith in the other side. If it is not McConnell, it would have to be another insider. Thune and/or Cornyn?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Not Raul

  657. German_reader says:
    @songbird
    @German_reader


    Btw, the BRD regime has now banned Martin Sellner from entering Germany
     
    They really seemed to have gone nuts over his speech.

    Had heard vaguely that it was about assisted remigration of non-citizens or something.

    Can't figure out the reaction exactly. My instinct would be to interpret it as a political campaign - something started or promoted at the party level, for some wider purpose.

    It's tempting to associate it with some preparatory move against the AfD, but I have heard some dismiss the idea of a party ban actually taking place. Maybe, it is more like minority outreach. Or even the pols reacting to some media campaign.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Can’t figure out the reaction exactly. My instinct would be to interpret it as a political campaign – something started or promoted at the party level, for some wider purpose.

    It’s part of the campaign to crush AfD, no doubt about it. I don’t know whether they’ll go for a formal ban, but it’s definitely possible, several politicians from across the establishment parties have called for it. There are also other proposals, like stripping especially radical AfD politicians (notably Björn Höcke, who’s seen as a sort of Hitler 2.0) of their basic rights, so they can’t stand for political office anymore, or excluding AfD from the public funding parties are entitled to.
    Anyway, it’s only going to get worse, no prospect for a happy ending here.

    • Thanks: songbird
  658. @German_reader
    @Beckow


    The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first.
     
    There's a book by Mary E. Sarotte about NATO expansion ("Not one inch"), have already forgotten a lot of the details, but I'm pretty sure Poland and Hungary at least expressed an interest in NATO membership as early as 1990. Czechoslovakia too iirc.
    Of course there might have been alternatives (Germany's foreign minister Genscher had some vague ideas about replacing NATO and the Warsaw pact with some new collective security system, but other parts of the German establishment and the Americans weren't interested), and it's also true that on at least two occasions assurances were made to Russia that NATO wouldn't be expanded (even if those weren't on the level of formal guarantees).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    Expressing interest is very far from what happened. There were always political forces in V4 who wanted to join Nato, even some who openly advocated revanche on the pre-1989 era. But they were not a majority, people didn’t care or were generally opposed – nobody though that having wars and military alliances was cool or that it mattered. Maybe the Poles were slightly different, but not really.

    What happened was that in the mid-90’s the V4 countries were told directly that first they needed to join Nato – and no referendums were allowed and none took place. They had to privatize the local industries and allow them to be bought by the Western investors. They had to turn over all major media to to the Western approved owners. That’s what happened and it took a few years to implement.

    But nobody in V4 was rushing to join Nato, why would we want to? If you asked most people who they wanted to be like, it would Austria….but they told us that was not to be. And now they are lining us up for the sacrifices in the east. But I don’t think we will go…

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Beckow

    This is nonsense. NATO members have to demonstrate strong support by whatever fits their system: referendum, election, strong multiparty support in Parliament. This was the major barrier to Ukriane's acceptance. Privatization was about the EU not NATO. Subsequently, but not then, the Euro, Schengen and NATO have become requirements for new EU members which means that it is a long time before Ukraine gets voting rights. An EEA level status as quicly as decent perhaps.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @German_reader
    @Beckow


    But nobody in V4 was rushing to join Nato, why would we want to?
     
    Because not everybody in the V4 shared your positive view of the Soviet Union/Russia and lots of people wanted insurance that the Russian army wouldn't come back again? Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia all had to be kept with armed force in the Eastern bloc during the Cold War after all (yes, yes, I know, lots of local commies, and many people liked the system, it had its good sides too after all, but still, even you can't possibly deny the events of 1956 and 1968 and their lingering effect).
    Now personally I think this was all handled pretty disastrously, imo it would have been better to dissolve NATO after the end of the Cold War and replace it with some sort of European collective security system. And yes, there definitely was an agenda to box Russia in and prevent her re-emergence as a great power, it became blatantly obvious with those offers of NATO membership to Ukraine and Georgia, those moves were far from innocent or altruistic. But I still think you go too far with your justification of preventive war, there were other available choices on the Russian side too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LondonBob

  659. @Yevardian
    @German_reader

    Nothing so ambitious as that, it would have just been a landgrab invoking Wilsonian Armenia, or something like that. America wasn't exactly pleased with Turkey. Stalin had already established the puppet states of "Republic of Mahabad" and "People's Republic East Azerbaijan" in Iran. Those were only disestablished thanks to the extreme skill of post-war Prime Minister Ahmad Qavam (no American pressure was involved), so Stalin quite reasonably thought he could get away with an Anatolian annexation on a Wilsonian pretext. The USSR ruled over every other majority Turkic nation at the time, so punishing an avowedly pan-Turkist government would also make eminent sense.
    Against the backdrop of the muck in Palestine, the ethnic cleansing of Germans in East Europe and the Indian partition, the loss of some of Turkey's poorest and least-Turkish provinces probably could have gone on relatively unnoticed. Turkey only got into NATO after many strenuous objections, obviously foremost by Greece.

    Keep in mind Turkey declared war Germany in February 1945 only to avoid reprisals, something which neither Spain nor Sweden felt compelled to do. It was probably only the bomb that stopped Stalin in the end. Don't forget how active the Russian-funded PKK was even after that.

    Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Sher Singh

    Could just make another discord for karlin folks.
    The strains of autism can have own channels.

    Barbarossa has my email and also Yahya’s.
    Wanna join an email thread?

    • Replies: @Yevardian
    @Sher Singh

    Hard pass on discord but[email protected]

  660. @Mr. XYZ
    Off-topic, but could you see a Russia that avoided the 1917 Bolshevik coup helping to create an alternate version of the EU and NATO (but without the US) in order to help foster economic development and maintain security in Europe in the post-WWI years and decades? With the US descending back into isolationism, if Russia isn't Communist, I suspect that Russia will play a huge role as being one of Europe's main post-WWI security guarantors in such a scenario.

    Replies: @Derer, @Philip Owen

    Absolutley. Russia’s absence from the international system in what should have been a period of phenomenal growth (Stalin was an impediment not a driver) was a critical loss to the world economy. Booming Russia>no slump>no Nazis>slower and more ordered breakup of the British Empire (the real greatest geopolitical event of 20th C). Japan and China would probably still have had a go at each other though. Kerenskyist Russia would have supported the Chinese Nationalists.

    That said there might have been a white on white civil war too.

  661. @Beckow
    @German_reader

    Expressing interest is very far from what happened. There were always political forces in V4 who wanted to join Nato, even some who openly advocated revanche on the pre-1989 era. But they were not a majority, people didn't care or were generally opposed - nobody though that having wars and military alliances was cool or that it mattered. Maybe the Poles were slightly different, but not really.

    What happened was that in the mid-90's the V4 countries were told directly that first they needed to join Nato - and no referendums were allowed and none took place. They had to privatize the local industries and allow them to be bought by the Western investors. They had to turn over all major media to to the Western approved owners. That's what happened and it took a few years to implement.

    But nobody in V4 was rushing to join Nato, why would we want to? If you asked most people who they wanted to be like, it would Austria....but they told us that was not to be. And now they are lining us up for the sacrifices in the east. But I don't think we will go...

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @German_reader

    This is nonsense. NATO members have to demonstrate strong support by whatever fits their system: referendum, election, strong multiparty support in Parliament. This was the major barrier to Ukriane’s acceptance. Privatization was about the EU not NATO. Subsequently, but not then, the Euro, Schengen and NATO have become requirements for new EU members which means that it is a long time before Ukraine gets voting rights. An EEA level status as quicly as decent perhaps.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Philip Owen

    No, that's what happened, and no direct vote on it was allowed. You are misinformed and you seem really out of it from your comments, a frustrated Brit with no knowledge of the region and deep resentments (did you lose money there?).

    Or you just lie - to most Brits that is about the same thing.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

  662. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Another Polish Perspective

    It's kinda hard to argue that Stalin targeted specifically Russians. Between 16,500 and 50,000 deaths in this, upon suspicion of spying for Empire of Japan. Poles and Koreans met from opposite directions.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Korean_deportation_in_the_Soviet_Union.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Koreans_in_the_Soviet_Union

    Between 20,000 and 35,000 deaths in this. Significantly for pro-Japanese sentiments

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_repressions_in_Mongolia

    Including the last Mongol queen carrying an unborn child.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genepil

    This is not her, but similar royal costume was inspiration for Natalie Portman's

    https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:4800/format:webp/1*Qgd57z2OW1BIOijt9MndmA.jpeg

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective

    I am afraid some subconscious ideas of a nation once oppressed spoke through me, when I compared Putin to Stalin in this way 🙂 So some more extreme Polish people can still see Feliks Dzierżyński as “our quiet hero” since he was actually killing a lot of Russians, and did not run anti-Polish operations as the later NKVD did.

    Here you have an article which exemplifies this strain of thought I just mentioned;

    https://www.rp.pl/historia/art9599681-feliks-dzierzynski-czerwony-msciciel

    ” Feliks, the Red Avenger[of Poles, presumably]. The creator of the Soviet political police heartily hated Russians but did favours to Poles. had he lived longer, he could have taken the place of Stalin”

    So you see, a Polish secret agent simply 😉

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    However, it would be certainly interesting, if not fun, to see a Soviet Union run by a Polish nobleman like Dzierżyński ;)

    Anyway, it seems that foreign rulers of Russians do not really like them...apparently Russians are not really endearing...

    , @Derer
    @Another Polish Perspective


    "had he lived longer, he could have taken the place of Stalin”
     
    Unlikely, there were much more senior individuals that couldn't take it from Stalin, namely Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin they all faced the early death. Dzerzhinsky most likely would have been in the same basket. The secret police chiefs had low survival probability under Stalin.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Another Polish Perspective

    The thing about Stalin was that he spread out his punishments evenly. He's not liked in Japan, but was revered and mourned in PRC

    http://k.sinaimg.cn/n/sinacn/20161225/d821-fxyxury8530065.jpg/w700d1q75cms.jpg

    http://k.sinaimg.cn/n/sinacn/20161225/0aa8-fxyxute3266258.jpg/w700d1q75cms.jpg

    https://c7.alamy.com/comp/B9R8P2/from-left-to-right-vyacheslav-molotov-nikolai-bulganin-lazar-kaganovich-B9R8P2.jpg
    From left to right Vyacheslav Molotov Nikolai Bulganin Lazar Kaganovich Kliment Voroshilov Georgy Malenkov Nikolai Shvernik Zhou Enlai Lavrenty Beria Anastas Mikoyan and Nikita Khrushchev at the funeral procession of Josef Stalin on Okhotny Ryad

  663. German_reader says:
    @Beckow
    @German_reader

    Expressing interest is very far from what happened. There were always political forces in V4 who wanted to join Nato, even some who openly advocated revanche on the pre-1989 era. But they were not a majority, people didn't care or were generally opposed - nobody though that having wars and military alliances was cool or that it mattered. Maybe the Poles were slightly different, but not really.

    What happened was that in the mid-90's the V4 countries were told directly that first they needed to join Nato - and no referendums were allowed and none took place. They had to privatize the local industries and allow them to be bought by the Western investors. They had to turn over all major media to to the Western approved owners. That's what happened and it took a few years to implement.

    But nobody in V4 was rushing to join Nato, why would we want to? If you asked most people who they wanted to be like, it would Austria....but they told us that was not to be. And now they are lining us up for the sacrifices in the east. But I don't think we will go...

    Replies: @Philip Owen, @German_reader

    But nobody in V4 was rushing to join Nato, why would we want to?

    Because not everybody in the V4 shared your positive view of the Soviet Union/Russia and lots of people wanted insurance that the Russian army wouldn’t come back again? Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia all had to be kept with armed force in the Eastern bloc during the Cold War after all (yes, yes, I know, lots of local commies, and many people liked the system, it had its good sides too after all, but still, even you can’t possibly deny the events of 1956 and 1968 and their lingering effect).
    Now personally I think this was all handled pretty disastrously, imo it would have been better to dissolve NATO after the end of the Cold War and replace it with some sort of European collective security system. And yes, there definitely was an agenda to box Russia in and prevent her re-emergence as a great power, it became blatantly obvious with those offers of NATO membership to Ukraine and Georgia, those moves were far from innocent or altruistic. But I still think you go too far with your justification of preventive war, there were other available choices on the Russian side too.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @German_reader


    ...deny the events of 1956 and 1968 and their lingering effect
     
    You don't seem to understand what they were: 1956 in Hungary was basically a rebellion 10 years after the war by the side that lost the war and was justly occupied by the winner. Magyar nationalists were burning policemen on the street - look up the video, they are widely available. US wouldn't allow it in Italy or Germany, why would you think that Soviets would in Hungary?

    1968 in Czechoslovakia was a mild communist reform movement that got carried away by the zeitgeist of that time (I don't know, hippies?). Soviets were morons, misunderstood it and invaded to put an end to it - there was no fighting and almost nobody got killed (50 victims). It was stupid, but not about what you think - it was an internal commie dispute that Soviets mishandled. Very different from Hungary.

    I think we agree on the stupidity and pointlessness of the Nato expansion. I just think what is happening now are the inevitable consequences. You don't. But it's done, so what's the difference? It will be decided by the war. And the truth in retrospect will also be framed by what happens in the war. It is always like that.


    I still think you go too far with your justification of preventive war, there were other available choices on the Russian side too.
     
    Maybe you can finally tell us what were those choices....:)

    I don't justify anything - neither the Nato expansion nor the reaction. But you can't talk about B without addressing A that happened first - and it made the B, this bloody war, inevitable.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    , @LondonBob
    @German_reader

    Studied this at university, alongside people from the region, joining the EU was popular, NATO wasn't, it was imposed from above by the leadership who had been co-opted by the US.

  664. @Not Raul
    @A123


    If not Mitch McConnell, who else would it be?
     
    Good question.

    “Back east” is more likely to mean the East Coast.

    I would look to major donors on the East Coast, especially the major cities.

    I think that Mitch could be involved; but I think that, considering he isn’t what he used to be mentally, his big donors could have played a bigger role.

    Mitch has a lot of big Wall Street donors, like Blackstone. I doubt that Lake is their cup of tea.



    https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/mitch-mcconnell/contributors?cid=N00003389&cycle=CAREER

    The Blackstone founder had interesting things to say in 2015.

    https://money.cnn.com/2015/04/29/investing/blackstone-schwarzman-gop-presidential-election/index.html

    Replies: @A123

    I think that Mitch could be involved; but I think that, considering he isn’t what he used to be mentally, his big donors could have played a bigger role.

    Mitch has a lot of big Wall Street donors, like Blackstone. I doubt that Lake is their cup of tea.

    It is not impossible, but consider the mechanics of a bribe transaction. The person accepting had to believe that the individual offering:

    -1- Personally needs action
    -2- Has the resources
    -3- Will follow through
    -4- Can keep the secret
    -5- Not a set-up

    A faceless Blackstone droog may wish the event, however the potential bribe taker would lack faith in the other side. If it is not McConnell, it would have to be another insider. Thune and/or Cornyn?

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @A123


    If it is not McConnell, it would have to be another insider. Thune and/or Cornyn?
     
    Perhaps. They’re more on the ball now than Mitch.
  665. @Another Polish Perspective
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I am afraid some subconscious ideas of a nation once oppressed spoke through me, when I compared Putin to Stalin in this way :) So some more extreme Polish people can still see Feliks Dzierżyński as "our quiet hero" since he was actually killing a lot of Russians, and did not run anti-Polish operations as the later NKVD did.


    Here you have an article which exemplifies this strain of thought I just mentioned;

    https://www.rp.pl/historia/art9599681-feliks-dzierzynski-czerwony-msciciel

    " Feliks, the Red Avenger[of Poles, presumably]. The creator of the Soviet political police heartily hated Russians but did favours to Poles. had he lived longer, he could have taken the place of Stalin"

    So you see, a Polish secret agent simply ;)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Derer, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    However, it would be certainly interesting, if not fun, to see a Soviet Union run by a Polish nobleman like Dzierżyński 😉

    Anyway, it seems that foreign rulers of Russians do not really like them…apparently Russians are not really endearing…

  666. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    10-15 more years or so, if it happens.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    I’m just yanking your chain a little bit. But it would be interesting to meet you someday, somebody that I’ve had a lot of intimate conversations with over 10 years. You certainly know a lot more about me than my next door neighbor does, whose been so for over 10 years too. Probably even more than my sister too. My library is still yours for the asking – I’ve already paid good money to have my estate planning needs completed by the end of this year.* 🙂

    *I’m in good health and all, but one never really knows. I plan to retire in about 2.0 years, and can definitely see myself building up of this library once I do retire even more…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Thank you, truly.

  667. @QCIC
    @A123

    A123 wrote:


    [The INF Treaty] was not written with cruise instead of ballistic intermediate range as a concept.
     
    I think this is incorrect. After signing, the USA decommissioned the Ground Launched Cruise Missile (GLCM) which is basically a Tomahawk missile; this was in addition to decommissioning the more well known Pershing II intermediate-range ballistic missile. You have previously argued that the USA dropped out of the Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty due to a perceived threat from China. Others have made the case that Russia side stepped that treaty by deploying small ships which carry long range missiles. Both of these claims have some merit, but miss the point entirely. The USA dropping treaties and making aggressive moves broke the TRUST which had slowly been nurtured since the Cuban missile crisis. I believe the Russians have argued the USA was in violation of the INF treaty once the missile site was operational in Romania several years before the USA actually dropped out of the INF treaty, since the missile canisters can potentially carry Tomahawk missiles.

    We were all safer when the trust was still intact.

    The USA did make some weak claims that Russia violated the INF treaty with a long range cruise missile for the Iskander system. Apparently there were arguments over the Open Skies Treaty as well. Unfortunately, the West had already seriously damaged the trust which this entire treaty process was built on, so these very minor squabbles were used as an excuse to weaken arms control even more. It seems that some people do still care about it, so I am hopeful that multi-party negotiations will happen if we make it that long.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    We were all safer when the trust was still intact.

    Maybe. But today trust is gone for at least several decades, if not forever. No point crying over spilled milk. More than half of Russian population considers the West to be non-agreement capable.

    If Russia reaches some security arrangement with the empire and its sidekicks after it beats the Western gang in Ukraine, it will be in a totally different format: a verifiable agreement between enemies both of which are sure that the other will slit its throat given half a chance.

    • Agree: QCIC
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    after it beats the Western gang in Ukraine, it will be in a totally different format: a verifiable agreement between enemies both of which are sure that the other will slit its throat given half a chance.
     
    No agreement is necessary. The "western gang" can just sit back and watch Putler's Russia self destruct due to faulty management:

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/01/24/c7eb93864d044b23c3aaf7bfc093ca9b.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp
    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  668. @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    Putin may believe he is a tall handsome stallion of a man and with Tolstoy 'that every nation is unique and worthwhile — none better or worse than others.' But he knows there is no one in Washington who who accepts either proposition. They do not think Russia deserves to be conventional- militarily powerful or possess thermonuclear weapons capability comparable to America's, and gloatingly look forward to various national malaises of Russia (economic and demographic) leading to it collapsing as a truely independent power. Ukraine always interested American strategists as a way to help peacefully help the process of Russian decay along while not alarming the Kremlin. It would have worked with someone like Gorby or Yeltsin, who the beltway seem to have assumed were typical post cold war Russian leaders, but Putin was a counter intel specialist: a professional paranoiac.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer, @Mr. Hack

    Putler’s professional paranoia:

  669. Did George Lazenby really drop out of Bond to do hippy movies? I always assumed it was because he was perceived as a failure as Bond.

    [MORE]

  670. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Another Polish Perspective

    It's kinda hard to argue that Stalin targeted specifically Russians. Between 16,500 and 50,000 deaths in this, upon suspicion of spying for Empire of Japan. Poles and Koreans met from opposite directions.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Korean_deportation_in_the_Soviet_Union.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Koreans_in_the_Soviet_Union

    Between 20,000 and 35,000 deaths in this. Significantly for pro-Japanese sentiments

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_repressions_in_Mongolia

    Including the last Mongol queen carrying an unborn child.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genepil

    This is not her, but similar royal costume was inspiration for Natalie Portman's

    https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:4800/format:webp/1*Qgd57z2OW1BIOijt9MndmA.jpeg

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective

    On the other hand, East Asian societies with their culture of being “cute”, for example, of cute mascots taking care of any problem, managed to have become endearing for the Westerners… Well, personally I thought so once too… until I learnt how rigid in fact theses societies are….therefore now I look at all these Japanese mascots as more weird than cute.

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Another Polish Perspective

    You are getting East Asians mixed up again. That's okay, in Chinese films, white Americans are often casted with Slavs, or even Chechens for cost reasons.


    endearing for the Westerners…
     
    Referring to yourself? Your national costume is of Mongolic origin, Crimean Khanate was the last Mongol successor state in Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontusz
    , @songbird
    @Another Polish Perspective


    therefore now I look at all these Japanese mascots as more weird than cute.
     
    Some believe that the Japanese obsession with mascots is a carryover from Shintoism. Is it a coincidence that they have the biggest catalogue of ghosts, and I assume of mascots too?
  671. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    We were all safer when the trust was still intact.
     
    Maybe. But today trust is gone for at least several decades, if not forever. No point crying over spilled milk. More than half of Russian population considers the West to be non-agreement capable.

    If Russia reaches some security arrangement with the empire and its sidekicks after it beats the Western gang in Ukraine, it will be in a totally different format: a verifiable agreement between enemies both of which are sure that the other will slit its throat given half a chance.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    after it beats the Western gang in Ukraine, it will be in a totally different format: a verifiable agreement between enemies both of which are sure that the other will slit its throat given half a chance.

    No agreement is necessary. The “western gang” can just sit back and watch Putler’s Russia self destruct due to faulty management:


    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack


    The “western gang” can just sit back and watch Putler’s Russia self destruct due to faulty management:
     
    As we all know, Russia has already run out of missiles in March of 2023, Ukraine is winning, Putin has every disease in the book (with possible exception of puerperal fever), and has died many times already.

    I’d refer you to a psychiatrist, but mental disorders are incurable.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  672. Will be interesting to see if this literal diversity party the Turks are starting in Germany goes anywhere:
    https://www.rt.com/news/591414-bild-report-erdogan-own-party-eu-election/

    Thought it was curious when they seemed uncomfortable with the mass of arrivals from 2015. They seemed to be expressing an idea like,”It is them that is the problem, not us.”. (Though very quietly)

    But this new party seems like an immigrant party, promoting migration into Germany, as a core part of its platform.

  673. @A123
    @Not Raul


    I think that Mitch could be involved; but I think that, considering he isn’t what he used to be mentally, his big donors could have played a bigger role.

    Mitch has a lot of big Wall Street donors, like Blackstone. I doubt that Lake is their cup of tea.
     
    It is not impossible, but consider the mechanics of a bribe transaction. The person accepting had to believe that the individual offering:

    -1- Personally needs action
    -2- Has the resources
    -3- Will follow through
    -4- Can keep the secret
    -5- Not a set-up

    A faceless Blackstone droog may wish the event, however the potential bribe taker would lack faith in the other side. If it is not McConnell, it would have to be another insider. Thune and/or Cornyn?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Not Raul

    If it is not McConnell, it would have to be another insider. Thune and/or Cornyn?

    Perhaps. They’re more on the ball now than Mitch.

    • Thanks: A123
  674. @Philip Owen
    @Beckow

    This is nonsense. NATO members have to demonstrate strong support by whatever fits their system: referendum, election, strong multiparty support in Parliament. This was the major barrier to Ukriane's acceptance. Privatization was about the EU not NATO. Subsequently, but not then, the Euro, Schengen and NATO have become requirements for new EU members which means that it is a long time before Ukraine gets voting rights. An EEA level status as quicly as decent perhaps.

    Replies: @Beckow

    No, that’s what happened, and no direct vote on it was allowed. You are misinformed and you seem really out of it from your comments, a frustrated Brit with no knowledge of the region and deep resentments (did you lose money there?).

    Or you just lie – to most Brits that is about the same thing.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Beckow

    I lost friends. Most of my close ones for the last 30 years. Travel is now impossible.

  675. @German_reader
    @Beckow


    But nobody in V4 was rushing to join Nato, why would we want to?
     
    Because not everybody in the V4 shared your positive view of the Soviet Union/Russia and lots of people wanted insurance that the Russian army wouldn't come back again? Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia all had to be kept with armed force in the Eastern bloc during the Cold War after all (yes, yes, I know, lots of local commies, and many people liked the system, it had its good sides too after all, but still, even you can't possibly deny the events of 1956 and 1968 and their lingering effect).
    Now personally I think this was all handled pretty disastrously, imo it would have been better to dissolve NATO after the end of the Cold War and replace it with some sort of European collective security system. And yes, there definitely was an agenda to box Russia in and prevent her re-emergence as a great power, it became blatantly obvious with those offers of NATO membership to Ukraine and Georgia, those moves were far from innocent or altruistic. But I still think you go too far with your justification of preventive war, there were other available choices on the Russian side too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LondonBob

    …deny the events of 1956 and 1968 and their lingering effect

    You don’t seem to understand what they were: 1956 in Hungary was basically a rebellion 10 years after the war by the side that lost the war and was justly occupied by the winner. Magyar nationalists were burning policemen on the street – look up the video, they are widely available. US wouldn’t allow it in Italy or Germany, why would you think that Soviets would in Hungary?

    1968 in Czechoslovakia was a mild communist reform movement that got carried away by the zeitgeist of that time (I don’t know, hippies?). Soviets were morons, misunderstood it and invaded to put an end to it – there was no fighting and almost nobody got killed (50 victims). It was stupid, but not about what you think – it was an internal commie dispute that Soviets mishandled. Very different from Hungary.

    I think we agree on the stupidity and pointlessness of the Nato expansion. I just think what is happening now are the inevitable consequences. You don’t. But it’s done, so what’s the difference? It will be decided by the war. And the truth in retrospect will also be framed by what happens in the war. It is always like that.

    I still think you go too far with your justification of preventive war, there were other available choices on the Russian side too.

    Maybe you can finally tell us what were those choices….:)

    I don’t justify anything – neither the Nato expansion nor the reaction. But you can’t talk about B without addressing A that happened first – and it made the B, this bloody war, inevitable.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Beckow

    1956 was like a pogrom, after that ethnic Hungarians were promoted and the regime became more mild.

  676. @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    after it beats the Western gang in Ukraine, it will be in a totally different format: a verifiable agreement between enemies both of which are sure that the other will slit its throat given half a chance.
     
    No agreement is necessary. The "western gang" can just sit back and watch Putler's Russia self destruct due to faulty management:

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2024/01/24/c7eb93864d044b23c3aaf7bfc093ca9b.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp
    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    The “western gang” can just sit back and watch Putler’s Russia self destruct due to faulty management:

    As we all know, Russia has already run out of missiles in March of 2023, Ukraine is winning, Putin has every disease in the book (with possible exception of puerperal fever), and has died many times already.

    I’d refer you to a psychiatrist, but mental disorders are incurable.

    • LOL: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN

    Russia may have enough missiles to destroy the whole world including itself, but unfortunately it doesn't have enough fuel to warm the peoples' homes. This is not a cartoon Professor, but a reality that you'd rather sweep under the carpet. Perhaps it's really you that has a hard time dealing with reality and needs to see a shrink?

    https://youtu.be/7X4T6OJCA6s
    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

  677. @Another Polish Perspective
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I am afraid some subconscious ideas of a nation once oppressed spoke through me, when I compared Putin to Stalin in this way :) So some more extreme Polish people can still see Feliks Dzierżyński as "our quiet hero" since he was actually killing a lot of Russians, and did not run anti-Polish operations as the later NKVD did.


    Here you have an article which exemplifies this strain of thought I just mentioned;

    https://www.rp.pl/historia/art9599681-feliks-dzierzynski-czerwony-msciciel

    " Feliks, the Red Avenger[of Poles, presumably]. The creator of the Soviet political police heartily hated Russians but did favours to Poles. had he lived longer, he could have taken the place of Stalin"

    So you see, a Polish secret agent simply ;)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Derer, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    “had he lived longer, he could have taken the place of Stalin”

    Unlikely, there were much more senior individuals that couldn’t take it from Stalin, namely Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin they all faced the early death. Dzerzhinsky most likely would have been in the same basket. The secret police chiefs had low survival probability under Stalin.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @Derer

    Absolutely correct. Then you can add to that circle Kirov being executed from Zinoviev/Kamenov setup.
    Stalin doing the same to them. Then if going with the Stalin poisoned theory, it's Beria and Khrushchev doing this..... before Khrushchev has Beria executed. Then, though no execution involved, it's the TsK removing Khrushchev from power...... and you could say this sequence ends in the biggest act of subversion in it..... TsK putting Gorbachev is power - and him effectively executing them and the entire country!

    So it's after Lenin, -Trotsky-Stalin-Zinoviev-Kamenov-Kirov-Zinoviev-Kamenov-Trotsky-Stalin-Beria-Khrushev-TsK-Gorbachev in that sequence either trying to kill each other or working with another to kill somebody else in that list.

    Certainly with this environment, Western threats and Polish dickheads around... I could at least understand, maybe excuse if at least 200k Polish nationalists, the Stalinist purges of maybe half the number of 650000 executed.

  678. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Ukraine is about 20 times the size of Latvia.
     
    Used to be in Soviet times. Not anymore. Despite dramatic population fight from Latvia, Ukies outdid them in mismanagement. Today Ukraine is only ten times the size of Latvia in population.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Despite dramatic population fight from Latvia, Ukies outdid them in mismanagement.

    I think Latvia is down 2.7 to 1.8 million, Ukieland 51 to maybe 30 million at best…

    It’s a downward spiral, I wonder who is going to be the champion: it is between the Balts, Ukraine and Bulgaria. That’s how civilizations go down, it’s nice to see it in real time.

    They were here once, then they got “freedom”, and now they are no more…there is no existence in freedom, most people can’t handle it and don’t even understand what it is, what is happening to them. It is also elsewhere in the West but in a different manner, they are simply being slowly replaced and marginalized.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Ukieland 51 to maybe 30 million at best…
     
    Considering where Ukraine was before 2022 (they were afraid of conducting a proper census for more than 20 years for a reason) and how many ran away to Russia and Europe since February of 2022, Ukraine would be lucky if it has 20 million warm bodies. Ukies can console themselves that they have enough land to bury them all (which the clown is working hard to do).

    Replies: @John Johnson

  679. @Sean
    @Derer

    Kyle Bass


    Jan 18
    The United States 🇺🇸 represents:

    4% of the World Population

    25% of World GDP

    40% of Global Capital Markets

    We have the deepest, most liquid, most trusted capital markets in the world. It’s financial power that remains unmatched. [...]


    “In 15 years, China’s GDP, reported GDP is up over 500%, but if you invested in the Chinese stock market 15 years ago, you’ve lost a third of your money”
     

    Replies: @Derer

    The North American GDP is at 87% of Asian’s GDP and 61% for Europe/Asia – not a rosy future of this shift.

  680. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...Despite dramatic population fight from Latvia, Ukies outdid them in mismanagement.
     
    I think Latvia is down 2.7 to 1.8 million, Ukieland 51 to maybe 30 million at best...

    It's a downward spiral, I wonder who is going to be the champion: it is between the Balts, Ukraine and Bulgaria. That's how civilizations go down, it's nice to see it in real time.

    They were here once, then they got "freedom", and now they are no more...there is no existence in freedom, most people can't handle it and don't even understand what it is, what is happening to them. It is also elsewhere in the West but in a different manner, they are simply being slowly replaced and marginalized.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Ukieland 51 to maybe 30 million at best…

    Considering where Ukraine was before 2022 (they were afraid of conducting a proper census for more than 20 years for a reason) and how many ran away to Russia and Europe since February of 2022, Ukraine would be lucky if it has 20 million warm bodies. Ukies can console themselves that they have enough land to bury them all (which the clown is working hard to do).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Considering where Ukraine was before 2022 (they were afraid of conducting a proper census for more than 20 years for a reason) and how many ran away to Russia and Europe since February of 2022

    How many would that be and what is your source?

    Ukraine forbade men from leaving pretty early. It was mostly women and children that fled to Western Europe.

    Replies: @Sean, @German_reader

  681. Hole in one

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    How much does a Russian tank cost...and a Ukrainian grenade?

    Replies: @Negronicus

  682. @Another Polish Perspective
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    On the other hand, East Asian societies with their culture of being "cute", for example, of cute mascots taking care of any problem, managed to have become endearing for the Westerners... Well, personally I thought so once too... until I learnt how rigid in fact theses societies are....therefore now I look at all these Japanese mascots as more weird than cute.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @songbird

    You are getting East Asians mixed up again. That’s okay, in Chinese films, white Americans are often casted with Slavs, or even Chechens for cost reasons.

    endearing for the Westerners…

    Referring to yourself? Your national costume is of Mongolic origin, Crimean Khanate was the last Mongol successor state in Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontusz

  683. @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack


    The “western gang” can just sit back and watch Putler’s Russia self destruct due to faulty management:
     
    As we all know, Russia has already run out of missiles in March of 2023, Ukraine is winning, Putin has every disease in the book (with possible exception of puerperal fever), and has died many times already.

    I’d refer you to a psychiatrist, but mental disorders are incurable.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Russia may have enough missiles to destroy the whole world including itself, but unfortunately it doesn’t have enough fuel to warm the peoples’ homes. This is not a cartoon Professor, but a reality that you’d rather sweep under the carpet. Perhaps it’s really you that has a hard time dealing with reality and needs to see a shrink?

    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack

    If you think this ham-handed Ukie lie deserves an answer, think again.

    Replies: @AP

    , @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    How much of retarded idiot do you have to be to believe and link this imbecilic dogshit,Hack? At least if you are going to link disinfo idiocy...... have the IQ not to link one showing "UA" so strikingly titled on the video you stupid cretin!!!

    There is NO "communal crisis" you stupid dickhead, just the usual issues that occur every year to about 0.1% of the population, when there are extreme blizzards and cold temperatures and problem takes one quarter of a day to solve, though some of the problems are related to too much new apartment constructions built and the utilities not aligned with it.

    Overall, In other words, the complete opposite of the khokhol cesspit.


    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia
     
    America has definitely had more bridge collapses than Russia in the last 12 months you idiot..... and probably more electricity grid problems and other infrastructure-related problems.
    Are you having your bar mitzvah in Bukovina this year, Hack? It's a certainty that US heavily urbanised areas wouldn't survive with these weather conditions to function as Russia

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  684. @Another Polish Perspective
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I am afraid some subconscious ideas of a nation once oppressed spoke through me, when I compared Putin to Stalin in this way :) So some more extreme Polish people can still see Feliks Dzierżyński as "our quiet hero" since he was actually killing a lot of Russians, and did not run anti-Polish operations as the later NKVD did.


    Here you have an article which exemplifies this strain of thought I just mentioned;

    https://www.rp.pl/historia/art9599681-feliks-dzierzynski-czerwony-msciciel

    " Feliks, the Red Avenger[of Poles, presumably]. The creator of the Soviet political police heartily hated Russians but did favours to Poles. had he lived longer, he could have taken the place of Stalin"

    So you see, a Polish secret agent simply ;)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Derer, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    The thing about Stalin was that he spread out his punishments evenly. He’s not liked in Japan, but was revered and mourned in PRC
    From left to right Vyacheslav Molotov Nikolai Bulganin Lazar Kaganovich Kliment Voroshilov Georgy Malenkov Nikolai Shvernik Zhou Enlai Lavrenty Beria Anastas Mikoyan and Nikita Khrushchev at the funeral procession of Josef Stalin on Okhotny Ryad

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  685. @John Johnson
    Hole in one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4tRTrqLeZc

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    How much does a Russian tank cost…and a Ukrainian grenade?

    • Replies: @Negronicus
    @Mr. Hack

    Russian tank: $100,000. Ukrainian grenade: $3,000,000 straight from US supply closet. But that's just tax payer money.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

  686. @Another Polish Perspective
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    On the other hand, East Asian societies with their culture of being "cute", for example, of cute mascots taking care of any problem, managed to have become endearing for the Westerners... Well, personally I thought so once too... until I learnt how rigid in fact theses societies are....therefore now I look at all these Japanese mascots as more weird than cute.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @songbird

    therefore now I look at all these Japanese mascots as more weird than cute.

    Some believe that the Japanese obsession with mascots is a carryover from Shintoism. Is it a coincidence that they have the biggest catalogue of ghosts, and I assume of mascots too?

  687. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Ukieland 51 to maybe 30 million at best…
     
    Considering where Ukraine was before 2022 (they were afraid of conducting a proper census for more than 20 years for a reason) and how many ran away to Russia and Europe since February of 2022, Ukraine would be lucky if it has 20 million warm bodies. Ukies can console themselves that they have enough land to bury them all (which the clown is working hard to do).

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Considering where Ukraine was before 2022 (they were afraid of conducting a proper census for more than 20 years for a reason) and how many ran away to Russia and Europe since February of 2022

    How many would that be and what is your source?

    Ukraine forbade men from leaving pretty early. It was mostly women and children that fled to Western Europe.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @John Johnson

    Was. Apart from the hapless rural residents, men are increasingly joining their families abroad. One reason is that obits of number of high profile draftees from the entertainment industry have appeared in the last few months. Another is that it is becoming clear that Ukraine is not going to be able to release anyone from the army while the war continues, and there is no end in sight.

    , @German_reader
    @John Johnson

    It's true that a majority of Ukrainians who fled abroad are women and children, but there are also about 600 000 Ukrainian men in the EU. At least something like that number was thrown around recently, when there were proposals to force them to go back to Ukraine and fight in the war (or drive ambulances or whatever euphemism one chooses to come up with).

    Replies: @John Johnson

  688. @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    Thanks for being such a good illustration how pathetic the Ukies are. Why don’t you post that same picture for the third time, to drive the point home?

    Replies: @AP

    New thread, it’s good to show people how clueless you are about Ukraine. Whenever you try to write something authoritative about the country, it’s a good example of the reality.

    Any comment on having been caught writing total nonsense about a country you claim to know something about?

  689. According to this guy, you can basically stick your finger in the open mouth of a wild opossum:

    [MORE]

    And yet Bashi is a raccoon enthusiast!

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Rumor has it that he's busy training colonies of both racoons. possums and squirrels too in order to tour throughout Europe with a new circus act of sorts. BTW, I watched an interesting documentary last night on TUBI about squirrels "Nuts about Squirrels"or something like that. I think that you'd enjoy watching it.
    https://youtu.be/tWJ_HcOPxLE
    Bashi on the road with his new circus act, the squirrels seem to have taken the top billing (and rightfully so!).

    Replies: @songbird

  690. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    After Napoleon was defeated, Britain and France took the side of historic enemy of Europe, Turkey, against Russia in Crimean war (1853-56).
     
    Didn't prevent Russia's later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century).
    Alliances are always situational (or at least should be, the current status with NATO is rather unhealthy).

    I can give many more examples of duplicity of European powers
     
    That's just typical great power behavior, wouldn't be difficult to claim the same about Russia.
    imo these ideas of some unchanging eternal struggle are ahistorical and a misinterpretation of the current conflict, but I know, there's no point to arguing about it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Gerard1234

    Didn’t prevent Russia’s later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century).

    Do you consider the dissolution of the Three Emperors’ League to have been a blunder? I do, since it made a general European war astronomically more likely than would have been the case had this alliance remained intact. With this alliance remaining in place, a general European war would have probably been nearly impossible since challenging this alliance, like challenging NATO, would have been nearly impossible, at least in a direct war.

  691. @A123
    @Sean


    People without college degrees are a minority (only a third of US) who form the core of Trump’s support.
     
    You may want to check your statistics.

    People without college degrees are a majority (over 60% of US, aged 25+) who form the core of Trump’s support. He also does pretty well with bachelors degree holders. It is the much smaller masters/PhD contingent where one sees an extreme, elitist swing towards the DNC.

    There is little reason to believe the U.S. economy needs this many 4+ year degree holders. Shifting flow to shorter, trade certifications would be helpful. Also, grievance studies degrees could be effectively eradicated, along with the associated faculty.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Sean

    OK. Of eligible voters without a college degree, 41% are white.

  692. @German_reader
    @Beckow


    The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first.
     
    There's a book by Mary E. Sarotte about NATO expansion ("Not one inch"), have already forgotten a lot of the details, but I'm pretty sure Poland and Hungary at least expressed an interest in NATO membership as early as 1990. Czechoslovakia too iirc.
    Of course there might have been alternatives (Germany's foreign minister Genscher had some vague ideas about replacing NATO and the Warsaw pact with some new collective security system, but other parts of the German establishment and the Americans weren't interested), and it's also true that on at least two occasions assurances were made to Russia that NATO wouldn't be expanded (even if those weren't on the level of formal guarantees).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    The interesting thing is that had Russia told the West that it would be willing to take a tough line on China in exchange for getting a European collective security system, then maybe the West, including the US, would be more interested in listening to such a proposal. And by “hard line”, I mean a REALLY hard line where Russia agrees to do to China what the US did to Japan back in 1941 if China will ever go to war with the US, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, or the Philippines.

  693. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    10-15 more years or so, if it happens.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. XYZ

    Have you ever considered South Tyrol as a retirement destination? Or is it too cold for you?

    It’s a part of Italy, got a mixed German-Italian culture, and still got a bit of a Hapsburg flavor to it, I suspect.

  694. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Considering where Ukraine was before 2022 (they were afraid of conducting a proper census for more than 20 years for a reason) and how many ran away to Russia and Europe since February of 2022

    How many would that be and what is your source?

    Ukraine forbade men from leaving pretty early. It was mostly women and children that fled to Western Europe.

    Replies: @Sean, @German_reader

    Was. Apart from the hapless rural residents, men are increasingly joining their families abroad. One reason is that obits of number of high profile draftees from the entertainment industry have appeared in the last few months. Another is that it is becoming clear that Ukraine is not going to be able to release anyone from the army while the war continues, and there is no end in sight.

  695. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    How much does a Russian tank cost...and a Ukrainian grenade?

    Replies: @Negronicus

    Russian tank: $100,000. Ukrainian grenade: $3,000,000 straight from US supply closet. But that’s just tax payer money.

    • LOL: QCIC
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Negronicus

    I would have thought that the price of a tank would be much higher, and of a grenade much lower?

    Even still the difference in price figures well for Ukraine in this case.

    , @John Johnson
    @Negronicus

    Russian tank: $100,000. Ukrainian grenade: $3,000,000 straight from US supply closet. But that’s just tax payer money.

    Ukraine had plenty of grenades before the war. They inherited huge stocks of USSR era weapons.

    US taxpayer money isn't going to small arms. We have plenty that are sitting around in storage. The US could probably give every Ukrainian soldier an M4 and still have leftovers. Nearby European countries have also given them plenty of small arms. What they need are more HIMARs and ATACMs.

    A T-72 costs $1,200,00 to replace.
    https://www.thefivecoatconsultinggroup.com/the-coronavirus-crisis/ukraine-context-d33

    An FPV drone with a grenade is about $500.

    The Ukrainians have mastered using RPG warheads with drones. I've seen them take out T-72s without a hatch open. Incredible.

    From what I have read the latest Russian attacks have failed due to a combination of drones and Soviet era anti-tank mines.

  696. Jan 27, 2024 WASHINGTON
    “US Right to Know reporter Emily Kopp breaks down documents detailing a proposal made by U.S. scientists to engineer a virus at the Wuhan Institute of Virology” [The year before the pandemic}

  697. German_reader says:
    @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Considering where Ukraine was before 2022 (they were afraid of conducting a proper census for more than 20 years for a reason) and how many ran away to Russia and Europe since February of 2022

    How many would that be and what is your source?

    Ukraine forbade men from leaving pretty early. It was mostly women and children that fled to Western Europe.

    Replies: @Sean, @German_reader

    It’s true that a majority of Ukrainians who fled abroad are women and children, but there are also about 600 000 Ukrainian men in the EU. At least something like that number was thrown around recently, when there were proposals to force them to go back to Ukraine and fight in the war (or drive ambulances or whatever euphemism one chooses to come up with).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @German_reader

    It’s true that a majority of Ukrainians who fled abroad are women and children, but there are also about 600 000 Ukrainian men in the EU. At least something like that number was thrown around recently

    Well provide a source.

    The "35,000 killed on Donbas bombings" was also thrown around on pro-Putin websites and it's complete bullshit.

    I've debunked it about a dozen times.

    Replies: @Sean

  698. This article from last November mentions 650 000 Ukrainian men of military age in the EU (190 000 in Germany):
    https://taz.de/Ukrainische-Kriegsdienstverweigerer/!5969319/

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    It's hard to believe this large figure. The illegal exits for these men in Ukraine is very difficult. Legal exits are even more difficult. How do they get into countries like Germany without the correct paperwork?

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    , @John Johnson
    @German_reader

    This article from last November mentions 650 000 Ukrainian men of military age in the EU (190 000 in Germany):
    https://taz.de/Ukrainische-Kriegsdienstverweigerer/!5969319/

    The article has a false source.

    It cites this Eurostat article that doesn't list the ages of the men
    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20231006-2

    Seniors, men with disabilities, and men with large families were allowed to leave.

    Replies: @German_reader

  699. @German_reader
    This article from last November mentions 650 000 Ukrainian men of military age in the EU (190 000 in Germany):
    https://taz.de/Ukrainische-Kriegsdienstverweigerer/!5969319/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    It’s hard to believe this large figure. The illegal exits for these men in Ukraine is very difficult. Legal exits are even more difficult. How do they get into countries like Germany without the correct paperwork?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I'm sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    , @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Many of those are men who were in the EU before the war started and didn’t go back. When I visited Poland last year I had two Uber drivers who happened to be from Zaporizhia. One of them told me that almost all the Ukrainian guys from Kiev and western Ukraine returned to Ukraine to serve their country; as a result among men only Easterners were left in Poland.

    Otherwise, people bribe their way out. Ukraine gives medical exemptions, so physicians can be bribed to list someone as unfit for service. I think others need to be bribed too. It costs several thousands of dollars but is doable.

    Replies: @AP, @German_reader

  700. @Negronicus
    @Mr. Hack

    Russian tank: $100,000. Ukrainian grenade: $3,000,000 straight from US supply closet. But that's just tax payer money.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    I would have thought that the price of a tank would be much higher, and of a grenade much lower?

    Even still the difference in price figures well for Ukraine in this case.

  701. @songbird
    According to this guy, you can basically stick your finger in the open mouth of a wild opossum:
    https://youtu.be/USg_QsCfNmk?si=obAGu4uDfj6CfkOI

    And yet Bashi is a raccoon enthusiast!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Rumor has it that he’s busy training colonies of both racoons. possums and squirrels too in order to tour throughout Europe with a new circus act of sorts. BTW, I watched an interesting documentary last night on TUBI about squirrels “Nuts about Squirrels”or something like that. I think that you’d enjoy watching it.

    Bashi on the road with his new circus act, the squirrels seem to have taken the top billing (and rightfully so!).

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Thanks. On YouTube, you can find a lot of clips of squirrel attacks.

    Many are amusing. But some are even grotesque. News reports of squirrels biting people, and one featured a lot of blood in the snow. (What causes such an altercation I wonder? Is it disease-driven, or more about squirrel variability?)

    Here is an example, that floats the idea of a pack of agressive squirrels attacking Sikhs (actually I added that last part, but it would have been interesting to see how Sher Singh would have dealt with it), and features a bloody hand:

    https://youtu.be/xRbpbEc9f7w?si=trLUxV07OSI3q7YB

    I must say that my experience differs from the Chinese lady. I find it very easy to shake off a squirrel. (Though have never had a gray man-killer jump on me.)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  702. @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    It's hard to believe this large figure. The illegal exits for these men in Ukraine is very difficult. Legal exits are even more difficult. How do they get into countries like Germany without the correct paperwork?

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    I’m sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    More corrupt than even Russia? Hard to believe...at least Ukraine has never tried to abrogate international law and invade a neighboring country and steal its territory too. Stealing Ukrainian children, another recent favorite Russian pastime, is clearly an act of genocide...

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I’m sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    Stop making stuff up.

    Global corruption indexes do not place it at the bottom or even close. It's ahead of Russia at #33.
    https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    I’m sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.
     
    It’s likely in the top five most corrupt countries in the whole world.

    There is history behind that. In Soviet times Ukraine was a lot more corrupt than Russia, but less corrupt than the Central Asian republics or the Caucasus. After the dissolution of the USSR in the 1990s the corruption went through the roof on all of its territory. After 2000 the corruption in Russia subsided, whereas in Ukraine it remained at its 1990s peak. Have no info about the rest.

    The going rate for avoiding military service in Ukraine now is anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000. Getting away from Ukraine across the border is even more expensive. Thus, relatively few people can afford it now. That’s why so many try to get out of Ukraine illegally, some even braving the Dnestr river in winter. Not too long ago the clown fired all local military comissars responsible for drafting, as a measure to fight corruption. So, new ones are going to take bribes now.

    Smarter ones ran away long before Ukraine introduced stricter rules for border crossing. Stingy ones use official reasons for getting out and then don’t come back, like a prominent Ukie propagandist who was officially sent to cover the EU summit in December and decided not to return. Rats are leaving the sinking ship.

    As to so-called world corruption index, you need to find out who funds those compiling it to know what ax they have to grind. As we all know, he who pays the musicians calls the tune.
  703. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I'm sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    More corrupt than even Russia? Hard to believe…at least Ukraine has never tried to abrogate international law and invade a neighboring country and steal its territory too. Stealing Ukrainian children, another recent favorite Russian pastime, is clearly an act of genocide…

  704. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Rumor has it that he's busy training colonies of both racoons. possums and squirrels too in order to tour throughout Europe with a new circus act of sorts. BTW, I watched an interesting documentary last night on TUBI about squirrels "Nuts about Squirrels"or something like that. I think that you'd enjoy watching it.
    https://youtu.be/tWJ_HcOPxLE
    Bashi on the road with his new circus act, the squirrels seem to have taken the top billing (and rightfully so!).

    Replies: @songbird

    Thanks. On YouTube, you can find a lot of clips of squirrel attacks.

    Many are amusing. But some are even grotesque. News reports of squirrels biting people, and one featured a lot of blood in the snow. (What causes such an altercation I wonder? Is it disease-driven, or more about squirrel variability?)

    [MORE]

    Here is an example, that floats the idea of a pack of agressive squirrels attacking Sikhs (actually I added that last part, but it would have been interesting to see how Sher Singh would have dealt with it), and features a bloody hand:

    I must say that my experience differs from the Chinese lady. I find it very easy to shake off a squirrel. (Though have never had a gray man-killer jump on me.)

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Yeah, remember the recent clip of the young lady that I enclosed? She was petting and kising her grey squirrel for the camera, quite a contrast to what these clips show. Do watch the documentary that I mentioned above. All sorts of sub-species are shown, one a very large squirrel that habitats in the high mountains, and some great clips of a flying (gliding) squirrel too. I'm partial to these "flyers" having been brought up and a big fan of Rocky the flying Squirrel. :-)

    Replies: @songbird

  705. @German_reader
    This article from last November mentions 650 000 Ukrainian men of military age in the EU (190 000 in Germany):
    https://taz.de/Ukrainische-Kriegsdienstverweigerer/!5969319/

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    This article from last November mentions 650 000 Ukrainian men of military age in the EU (190 000 in Germany):
    https://taz.de/Ukrainische-Kriegsdienstverweigerer/!5969319/

    The article has a false source.

    It cites this Eurostat article that doesn’t list the ages of the men
    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20231006-2

    Seniors, men with disabilities, and men with large families were allowed to leave.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @John Johnson

    It's even in the Kyiv Independent, hardly a pro-Russian publication:
    https://kyivindependent.com/bbc-650-000-conscription-aged-men-have-left-ukraine-for-europe/

    No idea how many of those have disabilities or are unfit for military service. Maybe more specific data doesn't exist.

  706. @German_reader
    @AnonfromTN


    After Napoleon was defeated, Britain and France took the side of historic enemy of Europe, Turkey, against Russia in Crimean war (1853-56).
     
    Didn't prevent Russia's later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century).
    Alliances are always situational (or at least should be, the current status with NATO is rather unhealthy).

    I can give many more examples of duplicity of European powers
     
    That's just typical great power behavior, wouldn't be difficult to claim the same about Russia.
    imo these ideas of some unchanging eternal struggle are ahistorical and a misinterpretation of the current conflict, but I know, there's no point to arguing about it.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Gerard1234

    Didn’t prevent Russia’s later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century)

    Nonsense. This “neutrality” you’re talking of was one of the biggest betrayals and acts of duplicity in history. Also useless when it results in 3 major Empires fighting against only one.

    In late 1840s, entirely because of Russia, the A-H empire remained the A-H empire because Russia was critical to stopping the Hungarian rebellion against the Austrians. I don’t see ANY thing Russia could have gained from participating in this – especially as they didn’t (for whatever reason) demand ancient Russian lands in Galicia or Carpathian region in exchange for this help

    Russia would have reasonably expected Austro-Hungarian to repay their debt to them for this by joining Russia in coalition for any wars involving the other big powers around Europe. Certainly the pre-war stage of the Crimean war would assume the Tsar expecting Germanic support in this war. So a betrayal (and I think A-H & Prussia did some things on their territory that assisted Ottomans, British and French).

    Prussia /A-H by then effectively a confederation for these things.

    That’s just typical great power behaviour, wouldn’t be difficult to say the same about Russia

    Entire Russian history of last 400 years is selfless pan-slavic and/or pan-orthodox unity efforts. Often for completely zero economic or political benefit, solely moral. Zero similarity to this for French scum or British.

    Romania and Bulgaria entirely created as independent states because of Russian successful wars against Ottomans. All we received from this was subhuman German-prostitute “elites” in these 2 states who non-stop betrayed Russia after, most noticeably for either or both world wars

    Creation and reunification of Russian lands of “Ukraine” from decision of Zemsky Sobor is defacto an invitation to war again with Poland in the 17th century. Although just Poland, it’s still a war Russia was not wanting, so accepting petition of Zaporizhian cossacks was certainly action of altruism

    Only after that should the wars for trading position /security be considered…… such as for the Baltics, Caucasus and Siberia.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Gerard1234


    and I think A-H & Prussia did some things on their territory that assisted Ottomans, British and French
     
    You "think"? Ok, I suppose it must be true then.

    Prussia /A-H by then effectively a confederation for these things.
     
    A decade later they fought a war against each other.

    Entire Russian history of last 400 years is selfless pan-slavic and/or pan-orthodox unity efforts. Often for completely zero economic or political benefit, solely moral. Zero similarity to this for French scum or British.

    Romania and Bulgaria entirely created as independent states because of Russian successful wars against Ottomans. All we received from this was subhuman German-prostitute “elites” in these 2 states who non-stop betrayed Russia after, most noticeably for either or both world wars
     
    You're entering parody territory here. Frankly, the Tsar, his ministers and the Russian public were pretty stupid to get agitated to such an absurd degree about those stupid Balkans matters. They had zero connection to Russia's vital interests.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  707. @German_reader
    @John Johnson

    It's true that a majority of Ukrainians who fled abroad are women and children, but there are also about 600 000 Ukrainian men in the EU. At least something like that number was thrown around recently, when there were proposals to force them to go back to Ukraine and fight in the war (or drive ambulances or whatever euphemism one chooses to come up with).

    Replies: @John Johnson

    It’s true that a majority of Ukrainians who fled abroad are women and children, but there are also about 600 000 Ukrainian men in the EU. At least something like that number was thrown around recently

    Well provide a source.

    The “35,000 killed on Donbas bombings” was also thrown around on pro-Putin websites and it’s complete bullshit.

    I’ve debunked it about a dozen times.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @John Johnson

    Celebrity actor Andriy Pavlenko who joined up at the very begining was killed the other month This was very similar to the recent death of Vasyl Kukharsky. The older fellows are being put in dug outs along the front, where they are sitting ducks. The elite units, who are superbly equipped, are held back for use in mobile counter attacks, whereupon another hapless units of poorly trained older men get sent in to occupy the reconquered positions which Russian artillery are zeroed in on, which is extremely dangerous duty and in a great many cases without any rotation out. So the bulk of the current large numbers of Ukrainian KIA are not in elite units; these are do not stay to face the music. Growing awareness of how dangerous Ukraine's tactics are making it to be an ordinary Ukrainian soldier in an indifferent garrison type unit prolly explains the outflow increase among Ukrainian draft age men; already there are about as many now living in the EU as are serving in the Ukrainian army,

  708. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Thanks. On YouTube, you can find a lot of clips of squirrel attacks.

    Many are amusing. But some are even grotesque. News reports of squirrels biting people, and one featured a lot of blood in the snow. (What causes such an altercation I wonder? Is it disease-driven, or more about squirrel variability?)

    Here is an example, that floats the idea of a pack of agressive squirrels attacking Sikhs (actually I added that last part, but it would have been interesting to see how Sher Singh would have dealt with it), and features a bloody hand:

    https://youtu.be/xRbpbEc9f7w?si=trLUxV07OSI3q7YB

    I must say that my experience differs from the Chinese lady. I find it very easy to shake off a squirrel. (Though have never had a gray man-killer jump on me.)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Yeah, remember the recent clip of the young lady that I enclosed? She was petting and kising her grey squirrel for the camera, quite a contrast to what these clips show. Do watch the documentary that I mentioned above. All sorts of sub-species are shown, one a very large squirrel that habitats in the high mountains, and some great clips of a flying (gliding) squirrel too. I’m partial to these “flyers” having been brought up and a big fan of Rocky the flying Squirrel. 🙂

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    She was petting and kising her grey squirrel for the camera
     
    I recall a girl I know once holding a baby squirrel and noticing it had some sort of mites or fleas. I have also seen squirrels with mange.

    I’m partial to these “flyers”
     
    Not many people know this, but flying squirrels fluoresce under UV light. Fluorescence is somewhat more common in nocturnal animals. There is a very low amount of UV at night, but presumably it is easier to perceive (for the animals) without daylight interfering.
  709. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I'm sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    I’m sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    Stop making stuff up.

    Global corruption indexes do not place it at the bottom or even close. It’s ahead of Russia at #33.
    https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Any statistics related to Ukraine after 2014 are suspect. This information has been around for decades and is closely related to illegal drugs, prostitution, arms sales, fire sales of ex-Soviet technology, etc. We know that Vice-President Biden of the USA publicly pressured the chief prosecutor to hide the illicit Ukrainian dealings of his own son Hunter. Sounds legit? Maybe to you. LOL!

    Remember the guy with the shark tank in his office? A high profile (((business leader))) of the country and total crook. Oh by the way, he funded NeoNazi thugs AND put the Jewish comedian President into office. Yep, definitely legit. Move along, no corruption here, no sir.

    Russia and the USA seem to be incredibly corrupt as well. That is a different issue.

    You people are really on top of things. Great job, morons.

  710. @Derer
    @Another Polish Perspective


    "had he lived longer, he could have taken the place of Stalin”
     
    Unlikely, there were much more senior individuals that couldn't take it from Stalin, namely Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin they all faced the early death. Dzerzhinsky most likely would have been in the same basket. The secret police chiefs had low survival probability under Stalin.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Absolutely correct. Then you can add to that circle Kirov being executed from Zinoviev/Kamenov setup.
    Stalin doing the same to them. Then if going with the Stalin poisoned theory, it’s Beria and Khrushchev doing this….. before Khrushchev has Beria executed. Then, though no execution involved, it’s the TsK removing Khrushchev from power…… and you could say this sequence ends in the biggest act of subversion in it….. TsK putting Gorbachev is power – and him effectively executing them and the entire country!

    So it’s after Lenin, -Trotsky-Stalin-Zinoviev-Kamenov-Kirov-Zinoviev-Kamenov-Trotsky-Stalin-Beria-Khrushev-TsK-Gorbachev in that sequence either trying to kill each other or working with another to kill somebody else in that list.

    Certainly with this environment, Western threats and Polish dickheads around… I could at least understand, maybe excuse if at least 200k Polish nationalists, the Stalinist purges of maybe half the number of 650000 executed.

  711. RT has a story about Hungary and Romania wanting to feast on carcass of dying Ukraine like coyotes on a croaked moose.

    https://www.rt.com/news/591417-eu-urged-to-take-piece-of-ukraine/

    • Replies: @AP
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Those are fringe parties in each country, not the countries themselves.

    , @John Johnson
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    That is not a story about Hungary and Romania.

    It is about statements from isolated lawmakers in those countries.

    Our Homeland leader Laszlo Toroczkai made the remarks at a conference where the party, which has six lawmakers in the 199-strong Hungarian parliament, hosted far-right leaders
    https://www.jpost.com/international/internationalrussia-ukraine-war/article-784026

    6 seats in a 199 seat parliament.

    Of course Russian media will not mention that and instead depict Hungary and Romania as joining Russia. I guarantee that story will run within 24 hours.

    The dwarf and his supporters do not like a simple discussion of the facts.

    As with the left they have an instinctive fear of the truth. They don't trust that it will work for them.

  712. @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    It's hard to believe this large figure. The illegal exits for these men in Ukraine is very difficult. Legal exits are even more difficult. How do they get into countries like Germany without the correct paperwork?

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    Many of those are men who were in the EU before the war started and didn’t go back. When I visited Poland last year I had two Uber drivers who happened to be from Zaporizhia. One of them told me that almost all the Ukrainian guys from Kiev and western Ukraine returned to Ukraine to serve their country; as a result among men only Easterners were left in Poland.

    Otherwise, people bribe their way out. Ukraine gives medical exemptions, so physicians can be bribed to list someone as unfit for service. I think others need to be bribed too. It costs several thousands of dollars but is doable.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AP

    Update: Ivan Ivanovich found that the 650,000 number was an incorrect description from ten original source that just said all men without specifying ages or disability status.

    , @German_reader
    @AP


    One of them told me that almost all the Ukrainian guys from Kiev and western Ukraine returned to Ukraine to serve their country; as a result among men only Easterners were left in Poland.
     
    In other words, people from the regions where the war is actually being fought and which are at risk of annexation by Russia aren't enthusiastic about fighting and have a rather under-developed Ukrainian patriotism. I have no idea if this is true, but if it is, the implications aren't positive for Ukraine's cause.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

  713. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Yeah, remember the recent clip of the young lady that I enclosed? She was petting and kising her grey squirrel for the camera, quite a contrast to what these clips show. Do watch the documentary that I mentioned above. All sorts of sub-species are shown, one a very large squirrel that habitats in the high mountains, and some great clips of a flying (gliding) squirrel too. I'm partial to these "flyers" having been brought up and a big fan of Rocky the flying Squirrel. :-)

    Replies: @songbird

    She was petting and kising her grey squirrel for the camera

    I recall a girl I know once holding a baby squirrel and noticing it had some sort of mites or fleas. I have also seen squirrels with mange.

    I’m partial to these “flyers”

    Not many people know this, but flying squirrels fluoresce under UV light. Fluorescence is somewhat more common in nocturnal animals. There is a very low amount of UV at night, but presumably it is easier to perceive (for the animals) without daylight interfering.

    • Thanks: QCIC
  714. @John Johnson
    @German_reader

    It’s true that a majority of Ukrainians who fled abroad are women and children, but there are also about 600 000 Ukrainian men in the EU. At least something like that number was thrown around recently

    Well provide a source.

    The "35,000 killed on Donbas bombings" was also thrown around on pro-Putin websites and it's complete bullshit.

    I've debunked it about a dozen times.

    Replies: @Sean

    Celebrity actor Andriy Pavlenko who joined up at the very begining was killed the other month This was very similar to the recent death of Vasyl Kukharsky. The older fellows are being put in dug outs along the front, where they are sitting ducks. The elite units, who are superbly equipped, are held back for use in mobile counter attacks, whereupon another hapless units of poorly trained older men get sent in to occupy the reconquered positions which Russian artillery are zeroed in on, which is extremely dangerous duty and in a great many cases without any rotation out. So the bulk of the current large numbers of Ukrainian KIA are not in elite units; these are do not stay to face the music. Growing awareness of how dangerous Ukraine’s tactics are making it to be an ordinary Ukrainian soldier in an indifferent garrison type unit prolly explains the outflow increase among Ukrainian draft age men; already there are about as many now living in the EU as are serving in the Ukrainian army,

  715. Pressure continues to grow on Iran: (1)

    Houthis and Iran are hurting China’s Red Sea trade

    If an angry China cuts off export of parts for missiles and drones, Iran will have to close its war factories

    China is undergoing a serious economic recession, with factories shut down, workers released or paroled and sales inside and outside China very sluggish. Compounding the problem is that China ships its goods using commercial carriers, and most of these shipments are by sea and pass through the Red Sea to the Suez Canal and on to Europe.

    Even if the Houthis say they are not shooting at Chinese ships, that is completely irrelevant since non-Chinese ships by and large carry Chinese cargo. And even if ships keep using the Suez Canal, insurance rates are rising. So Chinese producers face a big challenge in the cost of transport – and, if ships are diverted around the horn of Africa, the weeks of delays in moving cargo. China simply cannot afford to lose any more business than it already has.

    If Xi Jinping does not take even tougher measures on Iran, then he will be held responsible by China’s manufacturing elites for an even bigger failure. He already has a host of disasters on his hands – many of them, such as the crazy Covid restrictions, his own doing. His real estate market has collapsed.

    The Iranian Houthi’s also attacked a ship containing Russian hydrocarbon exports. Whatever Khamenei hoped to achieve has not come to pass.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://asiatimes.com/2024/01/houthis-and-iran-are-hurting-chinas-red-sea-trade/

  716. Is there some way to request information added to a Wikipedia article?

    Should like to request a sub-heading added to the Eulenburg article: fertility and homosexuality.

    [MORE]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp,_Prince_of_Eulenburg

    And I should like someone to consult this volume:

    Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fürstliche Häuser VI. “Eulenburg”. C.A. Starke Verlag, 1961, pp. 433-435 (French).

    And report under the heading how many siblings Eulenburg had and whether and how it differs from the expected amount. (Gays tend to have fewer siblings)

    And then I would like to see theories explaining how Eulenburg had so many children.

    As well as a broader accounting of the fertility of his relatives. He had a younger brother who was also a homo.

    Seems to me as though there could be worse types of homosexuality than others from a fertility perspective, kind of like how there are worse forms of schizophrenia.

  717. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Many of those are men who were in the EU before the war started and didn’t go back. When I visited Poland last year I had two Uber drivers who happened to be from Zaporizhia. One of them told me that almost all the Ukrainian guys from Kiev and western Ukraine returned to Ukraine to serve their country; as a result among men only Easterners were left in Poland.

    Otherwise, people bribe their way out. Ukraine gives medical exemptions, so physicians can be bribed to list someone as unfit for service. I think others need to be bribed too. It costs several thousands of dollars but is doable.

    Replies: @AP, @German_reader

    Update: Ivan Ivanovich found that the 650,000 number was an incorrect description from ten original source that just said all men without specifying ages or disability status.

  718. @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN

    Russia may have enough missiles to destroy the whole world including itself, but unfortunately it doesn't have enough fuel to warm the peoples' homes. This is not a cartoon Professor, but a reality that you'd rather sweep under the carpet. Perhaps it's really you that has a hard time dealing with reality and needs to see a shrink?

    https://youtu.be/7X4T6OJCA6s
    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    If you think this ham-handed Ukie lie deserves an answer, think again.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    It’s incorrect because Russia does have the fuel to hear its homes, but rather there is a breakdown in various places all over Russia resulting in many Russians being without heat.

    If the same thing were happening in Ukraine, you and other pro-Russians here would be bragging and gloating about Ukraine being a dysfunctional country.

    But since it’s Russia - silence.

  719. @German_reader
    Looks like Nitter will soon stop working due to recent changes in Twitter which closed a loophole for creating mass accounts. No way then at all to read that damn site without an account.
    Musk is such a cunt, I hope he'll come to a bad end eventually.

    Replies: @songbird, @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Can you code an algorithm to suppress twitter posts about Israel army killing Gaza women and children?

    Pretty sure they would give you more money than you could ever spend to work for them right now. That department there is going nuts.

  720. @Emil Nikola Richard
    RT has a story about Hungary and Romania wanting to feast on carcass of dying Ukraine like coyotes on a croaked moose.

    https://www.rt.com/news/591417-eu-urged-to-take-piece-of-ukraine/

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    Those are fringe parties in each country, not the countries themselves.

  721. German_reader says:
    @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    Didn't prevent Russia's later alliance with them against Germany (despite Prussia having been neutral during the Crimean war and having had relatively good relations with Russia for most of the 19th century)
     
    Nonsense. This "neutrality" you're talking of was one of the biggest betrayals and acts of duplicity in history. Also useless when it results in 3 major Empires fighting against only one.

    In late 1840s, entirely because of Russia, the A-H empire remained the A-H empire because Russia was critical to stopping the Hungarian rebellion against the Austrians. I don't see ANY thing Russia could have gained from participating in this - especially as they didn't (for whatever reason) demand ancient Russian lands in Galicia or Carpathian region in exchange for this help

    Russia would have reasonably expected Austro-Hungarian to repay their debt to them for this by joining Russia in coalition for any wars involving the other big powers around Europe. Certainly the pre-war stage of the Crimean war would assume the Tsar expecting Germanic support in this war. So a betrayal (and I think A-H & Prussia did some things on their territory that assisted Ottomans, British and French).

    Prussia /A-H by then effectively a confederation for these things.

    That's just typical great power behaviour, wouldn't be difficult to say the same about Russia
     
    Entire Russian history of last 400 years is selfless pan-slavic and/or pan-orthodox unity efforts. Often for completely zero economic or political benefit, solely moral. Zero similarity to this for French scum or British.

    Romania and Bulgaria entirely created as independent states because of Russian successful wars against Ottomans. All we received from this was subhuman German-prostitute "elites" in these 2 states who non-stop betrayed Russia after, most noticeably for either or both world wars

    Creation and reunification of Russian lands of "Ukraine" from decision of Zemsky Sobor is defacto an invitation to war again with Poland in the 17th century. Although just Poland, it's still a war Russia was not wanting, so accepting petition of Zaporizhian cossacks was certainly action of altruism

    Only after that should the wars for trading position /security be considered...... such as for the Baltics, Caucasus and Siberia.

    Replies: @German_reader

    and I think A-H & Prussia did some things on their territory that assisted Ottomans, British and French

    You “think”? Ok, I suppose it must be true then.

    Prussia /A-H by then effectively a confederation for these things.

    A decade later they fought a war against each other.

    Entire Russian history of last 400 years is selfless pan-slavic and/or pan-orthodox unity efforts. Often for completely zero economic or political benefit, solely moral. Zero similarity to this for French scum or British.

    Romania and Bulgaria entirely created as independent states because of Russian successful wars against Ottomans. All we received from this was subhuman German-prostitute “elites” in these 2 states who non-stop betrayed Russia after, most noticeably for either or both world wars

    You’re entering parody territory here. Frankly, the Tsar, his ministers and the Russian public were pretty stupid to get agitated to such an absurd degree about those stupid Balkans matters. They had zero connection to Russia’s vital interests.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    You "think"? OK I suppose it must be true then
     
    Well I can't be bothered to research it at the moment, but I am sure about it - anyway the core statement that "neutrality" was nothing to be grateful for from A-H or Prussia when 3 great powers are fighting against one, and it's a war with a large naval element to it, and for the sea arena at least they wouldn't be expected to contribute much ... is of course correct. Core statement that Habsburgs declaring neutrality after Russia stopping Hungarian insurrection is the worst type of Judas action...... is 100% correct.

    A decade later they fought a war against eachother
     
    Well you have got me with that. Which war BTW? I did write thinking they had only fought before then, but I am happy to have my ignorance corrected

    You are entering parody territory. Those stupid Balkan matters. They had zero connection to Russian's vital interests.
     
    1. Defeating Ottoman Empire out of Orthodox or Slavic land not a legitimate vital interest or aspiration? Would Germany have same view if Northern Italy or Austria were Ottoman run instead of the Balkans?

    2. Why is it in the western powers interests but not Russian's over the Balkans after the Ottoman empire removed from there? Only "vital interest" it looks here to me is western powers stopping a mass pro-Russian pan-Slavic or Orthodox liberated series of states

    3. Is it not very rare in history where the military winner then has such small political rewards over the states it has liberated and helped create such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania etc?

    Replies: @German_reader, @Beckow

  722. @AnonfromTN
    @Mr. Hack

    If you think this ham-handed Ukie lie deserves an answer, think again.

    Replies: @AP

    It’s incorrect because Russia does have the fuel to hear its homes, but rather there is a breakdown in various places all over Russia resulting in many Russians being without heat.

    If the same thing were happening in Ukraine, you and other pro-Russians here would be bragging and gloating about Ukraine being a dysfunctional country.

    But since it’s Russia – silence.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  723. German_reader says:
    @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    Many of those are men who were in the EU before the war started and didn’t go back. When I visited Poland last year I had two Uber drivers who happened to be from Zaporizhia. One of them told me that almost all the Ukrainian guys from Kiev and western Ukraine returned to Ukraine to serve their country; as a result among men only Easterners were left in Poland.

    Otherwise, people bribe their way out. Ukraine gives medical exemptions, so physicians can be bribed to list someone as unfit for service. I think others need to be bribed too. It costs several thousands of dollars but is doable.

    Replies: @AP, @German_reader

    One of them told me that almost all the Ukrainian guys from Kiev and western Ukraine returned to Ukraine to serve their country; as a result among men only Easterners were left in Poland.

    In other words, people from the regions where the war is actually being fought and which are at risk of annexation by Russia aren’t enthusiastic about fighting and have a rather under-developed Ukrainian patriotism. I have no idea if this is true, but if it is, the implications aren’t positive for Ukraine’s cause.

    • Replies: @AP
    @German_reader


    In other words, people from the regions where the war is actually being fought and which are at risk of annexation by Russia aren’t enthusiastic about fighting and have a rather under-developed Ukrainian patriotism

     

    There are plenty of people from those regions volunteering too, but those regions are not as enthusiastic or patriotic as the West and Center. I know of one person (childhood friend of a friend) from Dnipropetrovsk who left a stable job as a university professor (or lecturer?) in Western Europe where he had been living for 10 years, to defend his country and was killed outside Bakhmut. He had children, too. There are people like that in the East also.

    My impression is that the East has more far right radicals fighting (Azov is based in Kharkiv, Right Sector in Dnipropetrovsk) than other regions do, but the percentage of “regular people” like the poor professor who volunteer is lower than in the West and Center. There may be a different distribution from the East - more hardcore radicals and more reluctant conscripts relative to normal patriots - versus more regular, patriotic folk serving their country from other regions.

    Also, those Uber drivers from Eastern Ukraine who chose to stay in Poland may not have been patriotic enough to cross the border and fight for Ukraine, but they weren’t exactly pro-Russian either. They were bitter about the invasion and what Putin was doing to their homeland.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    Well, if one wants to be fair, Russians themselves have not exactly been super-enthusiastic about fighting. After all, look at just how few volunteers Russia got relative to its total healthy adult male population. In general, Sovokness tends to breed cynicism and apathy. This is why I suspect that most Ukrainians (perhaps excluding some activists in Galicia and Kiev) would have passively accepted the continuation of the Soviet Union had the August 1991 coup attempt been successful, for instance. Most Ukrainians were still Sovoks back then.

    Russia had hoped to turn most Ukrainians back into Sovoks with its invasion of Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  724. @John Johnson
    @German_reader

    This article from last November mentions 650 000 Ukrainian men of military age in the EU (190 000 in Germany):
    https://taz.de/Ukrainische-Kriegsdienstverweigerer/!5969319/

    The article has a false source.

    It cites this Eurostat article that doesn't list the ages of the men
    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20231006-2

    Seniors, men with disabilities, and men with large families were allowed to leave.

    Replies: @German_reader

    It’s even in the Kyiv Independent, hardly a pro-Russian publication:
    https://kyivindependent.com/bbc-650-000-conscription-aged-men-have-left-ukraine-for-europe/

    No idea how many of those have disabilities or are unfit for military service. Maybe more specific data doesn’t exist.

  725. @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I'm just yanking your chain a little bit. But it would be interesting to meet you someday, somebody that I've had a lot of intimate conversations with over 10 years. You certainly know a lot more about me than my next door neighbor does, whose been so for over 10 years too. Probably even more than my sister too. My library is still yours for the asking - I've already paid good money to have my estate planning needs completed by the end of this year.* :-)

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/families-dna-dna_tests-family_life-relations-long_lost_family-jhbn264_low.jpg

    *I'm in good health and all, but one never really knows. I plan to retire in about 2.0 years, and can definitely see myself building up of this library once I do retire even more...

    Replies: @AP

    Thank you, truly.

  726. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I'm sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    I’m sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    It’s likely in the top five most corrupt countries in the whole world.

    There is history behind that. In Soviet times Ukraine was a lot more corrupt than Russia, but less corrupt than the Central Asian republics or the Caucasus. After the dissolution of the USSR in the 1990s the corruption went through the roof on all of its territory. After 2000 the corruption in Russia subsided, whereas in Ukraine it remained at its 1990s peak. Have no info about the rest.

    The going rate for avoiding military service in Ukraine now is anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000. Getting away from Ukraine across the border is even more expensive. Thus, relatively few people can afford it now. That’s why so many try to get out of Ukraine illegally, some even braving the Dnestr river in winter. Not too long ago the clown fired all local military comissars responsible for drafting, as a measure to fight corruption. So, new ones are going to take bribes now.

    Smarter ones ran away long before Ukraine introduced stricter rules for border crossing. Stingy ones use official reasons for getting out and then don’t come back, like a prominent Ukie propagandist who was officially sent to cover the EU summit in December and decided not to return. Rats are leaving the sinking ship.

    As to so-called world corruption index, you need to find out who funds those compiling it to know what ax they have to grind. As we all know, he who pays the musicians calls the tune.

  727. @German_reader
    @AP


    One of them told me that almost all the Ukrainian guys from Kiev and western Ukraine returned to Ukraine to serve their country; as a result among men only Easterners were left in Poland.
     
    In other words, people from the regions where the war is actually being fought and which are at risk of annexation by Russia aren't enthusiastic about fighting and have a rather under-developed Ukrainian patriotism. I have no idea if this is true, but if it is, the implications aren't positive for Ukraine's cause.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

    In other words, people from the regions where the war is actually being fought and which are at risk of annexation by Russia aren’t enthusiastic about fighting and have a rather under-developed Ukrainian patriotism

    There are plenty of people from those regions volunteering too, but those regions are not as enthusiastic or patriotic as the West and Center. I know of one person (childhood friend of a friend) from Dnipropetrovsk who left a stable job as a university professor (or lecturer?) in Western Europe where he had been living for 10 years, to defend his country and was killed outside Bakhmut. He had children, too. There are people like that in the East also.

    My impression is that the East has more far right radicals fighting (Azov is based in Kharkiv, Right Sector in Dnipropetrovsk) than other regions do, but the percentage of “regular people” like the poor professor who volunteer is lower than in the West and Center. There may be a different distribution from the East – more hardcore radicals and more reluctant conscripts relative to normal patriots – versus more regular, patriotic folk serving their country from other regions.

    Also, those Uber drivers from Eastern Ukraine who chose to stay in Poland may not have been patriotic enough to cross the border and fight for Ukraine, but they weren’t exactly pro-Russian either. They were bitter about the invasion and what Putin was doing to their homeland.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...East has more far right radicals fighting (Azov in Kharkiv, Right Sector in Dnipropetrovsk) ...but the percentage of “regular people” like the poor professor who volunteer is lower than in the West and Center.
     
    Probably true, often the most devoted radicals come from the borderlands - some of the worst Nazis were Silesians, Sudetens and Austrians. But the percentage of the devoted Ukie nationalists is much lower in the east and south - and their "bitterness" is skin-deep, the usual war bitterness that s..t is happening. They will blame Russia, but also the West, Kiev, Galicians...you don't understand this natural human dynamic. Read about how average Germans felt about the Nazis after WW2 - or Belgians, French, Norwegians, Czechs who previously collaborated. The same will happen in the eastern Ukraine and the professors kids will only be left with regrets. Is it really worth it to sacrifice everything for "Ukraine road to the West" - it effectively means just a road to Nato. What an honorable thing to die for. What's next, sacrifices for king Charles III?

    The Ukie drivers I have talked to are usually very meek - they say 'oh, it's horrible', they blame fate, say they want peace. They remind one of the fatalistic mestizos in US. Most will stay as nomadic service people in all corners of the world: mixed and broken families, no sense of home...

    We are watching what could have been a great nation slowly being destroyed in front of our eyes, not the least by their own stupidity. I can see the memorials 50 years from now in Lvov: endless names of people who died for the "right to join Nato"...

    Replies: @AP

  728. @A123
    @Beckow



    It is understandable that Russia believed it was about them, and should have been explained better behind closed doors.
     
    Russia didn’t see it that way – no normal country would
     
    Normal countries do understand the difference between slackers and those doing their share. Shifting NATO resources to countries meeting their NATO obligations was logical and explainable.

    As I conceded, this was not well covered in public. There should have been better behind the scenes contacts to make sure that Russia did not misunderstand the actual intent.

    The V4 countries were told when they applied to EU that they have to join NATO first. It made no sense to us, we didn’t care, but it was non-negotiable.
     
    I do not claim to understand the linkage at the time.

    That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow

    …That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.

    Is it? How would you know? All potential EU candidates – not only Ukraine – are also now on track to join Nato, there are about 6 of them. No exceptions. Even non-Nato EU members are being pressured to join like Finland-Sweden. Theoretically there are exceptions but what V4 went through has not changed.

    One reason given is that Nato is needed to guarantee the security of the ‘investments’ – it is a straight-forward vassal-tribute system hidden behind empty slogans (“values”) and by complex, remote institutions. You live off it, so enjoy while it lasts.

    Shifting NATO resources to countries meeting their NATO obligations was logical

    Obligations, as you call it, amount to a few tens of billions of dollars – chump change of no importance when the history is being made. You don’t understand the neo-cons…

    • Replies: @A123
    @Beckow


    You don’t understand the neo-cons…
     
    I understand the NeoConDemocrats who are being excluded from the MAGA GOP. Voices like Bill Kristol are no longer welcome. The U.S. House is already working against them. They will be further defanged by the 2024 elections and Trump's 2nd term.

    non-Nato EU members are being pressured to join like Finland-Sweden.

     

    Is Ireland on that list? I do not recall hearing any pressure on them, though I concede I may have missed it.

    Sweden and Finland could have said no. Why did they ask to join if they wanted to stay out? Could it be the opposite, certain countries sought membership at the moment of maximum advantage?

    The panic whipped up over Russia still makes no sense. I keep hoping that Sweden will drop their bid. Alas, that does not appear to be the case.



    …That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.
     
    Is it? How would you know?
     
    How do you know it still exists?

    NeoCons in both the GOP and DNC were exceedingly powerful decades ago and set-up an informal rule that forced NATO for EU membership. It is not written down anywhere in EU rules, and is not enforceable via any legal body.

    The new, much weaker, NeoConDemocrats are nowhere near that effective. Trying to get a controversial country such as Ukraine or Georgia into NATO is now impossible. If the EU wants Ukraine, they will have to take it sans-NATO.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow

  729. Wonder if there is some way to weaponize the elderly, by having them operate drones, or whether it would be better done with AI.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    I hope he has GTA.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @Sher Singh
    @songbird

    https://twitter.com/Hatindersinghr3/status/1751562434060628059

    Replies: @songbird

  730. @Beckow
    @A123


    ...That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.
     
    Is it? How would you know? All potential EU candidates - not only Ukraine - are also now on track to join Nato, there are about 6 of them. No exceptions. Even non-Nato EU members are being pressured to join like Finland-Sweden. Theoretically there are exceptions but what V4 went through has not changed.

    One reason given is that Nato is needed to guarantee the security of the 'investments' - it is a straight-forward vassal-tribute system hidden behind empty slogans ("values") and by complex, remote institutions. You live off it, so enjoy while it lasts.


    Shifting NATO resources to countries meeting their NATO obligations was logical
     
    Obligations, as you call it, amount to a few tens of billions of dollars - chump change of no importance when the history is being made. You don't understand the neo-cons...

    Replies: @A123

    You don’t understand the neo-cons…

    I understand the NeoConDemocrats who are being excluded from the MAGA GOP. Voices like Bill Kristol are no longer welcome. The U.S. House is already working against them. They will be further defanged by the 2024 elections and Trump’s 2nd term.

    non-Nato EU members are being pressured to join like Finland-Sweden.

    Is Ireland on that list? I do not recall hearing any pressure on them, though I concede I may have missed it.

    Sweden and Finland could have said no. Why did they ask to join if they wanted to stay out? Could it be the opposite, certain countries sought membership at the moment of maximum advantage?

    The panic whipped up over Russia still makes no sense. I keep hoping that Sweden will drop their bid. Alas, that does not appear to be the case.

    …That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.

    Is it? How would you know?

    How do you know it still exists?

    NeoCons in both the GOP and DNC were exceedingly powerful decades ago and set-up an informal rule that forced NATO for EU membership. It is not written down anywhere in EU rules, and is not enforceable via any legal body.

    The new, much weaker, NeoConDemocrats are nowhere near that effective. Trying to get a controversial country such as Ukraine or Georgia into NATO is now impossible. If the EU wants Ukraine, they will have to take it sans-NATO.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123

    There are plenty of neo-cons among Republicans - who do you think Haley or the never-Trumpers are? They run the party in Washington and get along very well with the Dem neo-cons....maybe they will be eventually pushed out, but it will take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. I don't think we have that much time.

    Ireland is under the UK umbrella and strategically unimportant. The six EU candidates (mostly Balkans) are all also first waiting to join Nato. Nothing has changed.

    Swedes and Scandies have become retards - too much 'liberalism' of all kinds. They think there are Russian subs in the Stockholm harbour. They are by now pathologically conformist, they have always been de facto in Nato - now it will be official. Previous to that both Sweden and Finland were very active allies of Germany in WW2. They have always been on that side.

    I will bet that Ukraine without first being in Nato will never be in EU. Georgia is so far remote and it was always such a stupid idea that even commenting on that feels unreal.


    It is not written down anywhere in EU rules
     
    The most important rules and taboos are never written down - the ones that are unmentionable and can never be broken.

    Replies: @A123, @A123

  731. @AP
    @German_reader


    In other words, people from the regions where the war is actually being fought and which are at risk of annexation by Russia aren’t enthusiastic about fighting and have a rather under-developed Ukrainian patriotism

     

    There are plenty of people from those regions volunteering too, but those regions are not as enthusiastic or patriotic as the West and Center. I know of one person (childhood friend of a friend) from Dnipropetrovsk who left a stable job as a university professor (or lecturer?) in Western Europe where he had been living for 10 years, to defend his country and was killed outside Bakhmut. He had children, too. There are people like that in the East also.

    My impression is that the East has more far right radicals fighting (Azov is based in Kharkiv, Right Sector in Dnipropetrovsk) than other regions do, but the percentage of “regular people” like the poor professor who volunteer is lower than in the West and Center. There may be a different distribution from the East - more hardcore radicals and more reluctant conscripts relative to normal patriots - versus more regular, patriotic folk serving their country from other regions.

    Also, those Uber drivers from Eastern Ukraine who chose to stay in Poland may not have been patriotic enough to cross the border and fight for Ukraine, but they weren’t exactly pro-Russian either. They were bitter about the invasion and what Putin was doing to their homeland.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …East has more far right radicals fighting (Azov in Kharkiv, Right Sector in Dnipropetrovsk) …but the percentage of “regular people” like the poor professor who volunteer is lower than in the West and Center.

    Probably true, often the most devoted radicals come from the borderlands – some of the worst Nazis were Silesians, Sudetens and Austrians. But the percentage of the devoted Ukie nationalists is much lower in the east and south – and their “bitterness” is skin-deep, the usual war bitterness that s..t is happening. They will blame Russia, but also the West, Kiev, Galicians…you don’t understand this natural human dynamic. Read about how average Germans felt about the Nazis after WW2 – or Belgians, French, Norwegians, Czechs who previously collaborated. The same will happen in the eastern Ukraine and the professors kids will only be left with regrets. Is it really worth it to sacrifice everything for “Ukraine road to the West” – it effectively means just a road to Nato. What an honorable thing to die for. What’s next, sacrifices for king Charles III?

    The Ukie drivers I have talked to are usually very meek – they say ‘oh, it’s horrible’, they blame fate, say they want peace. They remind one of the fatalistic mestizos in US. Most will stay as nomadic service people in all corners of the world: mixed and broken families, no sense of home…

    We are watching what could have been a great nation slowly being destroyed in front of our eyes, not the least by their own stupidity. I can see the memorials 50 years from now in Lvov: endless names of people who died for the “right to join Nato”…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Probably true, often the most devoted radicals come from the borderlands – some of the worst Nazis were Silesians, Sudetens and Austrians. But the percentage of the devoted Ukie nationalists is much lower in the east and south
     
    It depends on how you define that. There certainly seem to be more extreme nationalist radicals like Azov in the East and South. But these are a small number anywhere. Generally speaking, the South and East is less patriotic, but the Russian invasion has changed things. Getting one's home bombed by the Russians leads to a different view of Russians than one had before. Russia is now despised by most people even in the East and South.

    I posted this before, but here a pro-Russian (himself an ethnic Russian) historian, Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia:

    "Zaporizhia is a mostly Russian-speaking city which in the past consistently voted for parties that advocated good relations with Russia. I can assure you that there is no affection for the Russian state and army in Zaporizhia today."

    "...in and around Kyiv, there is — very understandably — a great deal of hate-filled language directed at the Russian people and Russian culture in general. In Zaporizhia, hatred is directed at the Russian government and armed forces — especially of course the air force. But since so many people there are partly Russian themselves, and with relatives in Russia, there is much less of this kind of quasi-racist talk about ordinary Russians."

    So hatred of the Russian state is universal in Ukraine, but there are regional differences when it comes to hatred towards the Russian nation.

    and their “bitterness” is skin-deep
     
    Not at all. When one's friends or relatives have been killed the feelings are not shallow. They will exist for a generation or two.

    I remember before the war, a Russian nationalist poster here, "Felix Keverich", was insisting that Ukrainian nationalism was shallow and ephemeral, that it would just disappear as soon as Russia invaded, that resistance would be brief, and that the people of Ukraine would become "good Russians" quickly. How stupid that was. He doesn't show his face here anymore.

    you don’t understand this natural human dynamic. Read about how average Germans felt about the Nazis after WW2
     
    The Germans under their Nazi rulers started World War II.

    Ukraine was invaded by Russia.

    The Eastern and Southern Ukrainians will rather feel like the Poles etc. felt towards the Germans.

    The same will happen in the eastern Ukraine and the professors kids will only be left with regrets.
     
    They will probably view their father in the same way that Poles, Dutch, or others feel about their fathers who fell in battle against those who invaded their country.

    Is it really worth it to sacrifice everything for “Ukraine road to the West”
     
    We know that you are incapable of understanding patriotic feelings, your people naturally sold themselves to whoever happened to be stronger, without a fight. You think doing so is smart and virtuous. So you can only understand resistance to Russia as being subservience to NATO and nothing more, and condemning Ukrainians for making a "foolish" choice by not choosing the stronger or more immediate master. That is the only way you are capable of understanding this conflict. Whom to serve? Whose lackey to be?

    The Ukie drivers I have talked to are usually very meek – they say ‘oh, it’s horrible’, they blame fate, say they want peace. They remind one of the fatalistic mestizos in US
     
    Maybe. I would caution you however not to base your understanding of people in Ukraine upon the attitudes of draft dodgers you come across in the West. They are not representative.

    We are watching what could have been a great nation slowly being destroyed in front of our eyes
     
    It's more like the birth of a nation through fire. The last remnants of the Sovok legacy burn away. It is a scary, violent, and often tragic and terrible process. Much better to have bumbled along in peace. But it was not to be.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

  732. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I’m sure there are ways to get out. Ukraine has long been considered the most corrupt country in the developed world.

    Stop making stuff up.

    Global corruption indexes do not place it at the bottom or even close. It's ahead of Russia at #33.
    https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

    Replies: @QCIC

    Any statistics related to Ukraine after 2014 are suspect. This information has been around for decades and is closely related to illegal drugs, prostitution, arms sales, fire sales of ex-Soviet technology, etc. We know that Vice-President Biden of the USA publicly pressured the chief prosecutor to hide the illicit Ukrainian dealings of his own son Hunter. Sounds legit? Maybe to you. LOL!

    Remember the guy with the shark tank in his office? A high profile (((business leader))) of the country and total crook. Oh by the way, he funded NeoNazi thugs AND put the Jewish comedian President into office. Yep, definitely legit. Move along, no corruption here, no sir.

    Russia and the USA seem to be incredibly corrupt as well. That is a different issue.

    You people are really on top of things. Great job, morons.

  733. @songbird
    Wonder if there is some way to weaponize the elderly, by having them operate drones, or whether it would be better done with AI.

    https://youtu.be/YCXxIX6HiWE?si=q6OvSDsK9cKLaxKO

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sher Singh

    I hope he has GTA.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    Many of the Japanese have such an idealized vision of America - something more like the '50s - that it would be a shame to ruin that for him, IMO

  734. @A123
    @Beckow


    You don’t understand the neo-cons…
     
    I understand the NeoConDemocrats who are being excluded from the MAGA GOP. Voices like Bill Kristol are no longer welcome. The U.S. House is already working against them. They will be further defanged by the 2024 elections and Trump's 2nd term.

    non-Nato EU members are being pressured to join like Finland-Sweden.

     

    Is Ireland on that list? I do not recall hearing any pressure on them, though I concede I may have missed it.

    Sweden and Finland could have said no. Why did they ask to join if they wanted to stay out? Could it be the opposite, certain countries sought membership at the moment of maximum advantage?

    The panic whipped up over Russia still makes no sense. I keep hoping that Sweden will drop their bid. Alas, that does not appear to be the case.



    …That connection is now 100% gone for any future admissions. The EU can accept non-NATO Ukraine if they so desire.
     
    Is it? How would you know?
     
    How do you know it still exists?

    NeoCons in both the GOP and DNC were exceedingly powerful decades ago and set-up an informal rule that forced NATO for EU membership. It is not written down anywhere in EU rules, and is not enforceable via any legal body.

    The new, much weaker, NeoConDemocrats are nowhere near that effective. Trying to get a controversial country such as Ukraine or Georgia into NATO is now impossible. If the EU wants Ukraine, they will have to take it sans-NATO.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow

    There are plenty of neo-cons among Republicans – who do you think Haley or the never-Trumpers are? They run the party in Washington and get along very well with the Dem neo-cons….maybe they will be eventually pushed out, but it will take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. I don’t think we have that much time.

    Ireland is under the UK umbrella and strategically unimportant. The six EU candidates (mostly Balkans) are all also first waiting to join Nato. Nothing has changed.

    Swedes and Scandies have become retards – too much ‘liberalism’ of all kinds. They think there are Russian subs in the Stockholm harbour. They are by now pathologically conformist, they have always been de facto in Nato – now it will be official. Previous to that both Sweden and Finland were very active allies of Germany in WW2. They have always been on that side.

    I will bet that Ukraine without first being in Nato will never be in EU. Georgia is so far remote and it was always such a stupid idea that even commenting on that feels unreal.

    It is not written down anywhere in EU rules

    The most important rules and taboos are never written down – the ones that are unmentionable and can never be broken.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Beckow


    There are plenty of neo-cons among Republicans – who do you think Haley or the never-Trumpers are? They run the party in Washington and get along very well with the Dem neo-cons….maybe they will be eventually pushed out, but it will take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. I don’t think we have that much time.
     
    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists. Mikel springs immediately to mind. Is he a NeoCon for team McConnell/Bolton? No. He is with Trump & against Bolton.

    Purging the NeoConDemocrats should not take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. They are already exiting with great enthusiasm. As we have seen with the failed attempt to bribe Kari Lake, team Bolton is on the run away from MAGA's Trump 2024 election.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @A123
    @Beckow

    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists that are unsalvageable Trolls.

    I tried to avoid mentioning John Bolton Johnson. He is, of course, a passionate NeoConDemocrat warmonger. It is unsurprising that he backs Nikki Haley and her Forever Wars.

    Those of us in touch with reality realize that his #NeverTrump madness is in vain. Trump is polling +30% over NeoConDemocrat Haley in her home state of South Carolina (1).

    John Bolton Johnson and Nikki Haley need to change to the Democrat party ASAP. Their hatred of MAGA leaves them no other option.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/republican-primary/2024/south-carolina

  735. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234


    and I think A-H & Prussia did some things on their territory that assisted Ottomans, British and French
     
    You "think"? Ok, I suppose it must be true then.

    Prussia /A-H by then effectively a confederation for these things.
     
    A decade later they fought a war against each other.

    Entire Russian history of last 400 years is selfless pan-slavic and/or pan-orthodox unity efforts. Often for completely zero economic or political benefit, solely moral. Zero similarity to this for French scum or British.

    Romania and Bulgaria entirely created as independent states because of Russian successful wars against Ottomans. All we received from this was subhuman German-prostitute “elites” in these 2 states who non-stop betrayed Russia after, most noticeably for either or both world wars
     
    You're entering parody territory here. Frankly, the Tsar, his ministers and the Russian public were pretty stupid to get agitated to such an absurd degree about those stupid Balkans matters. They had zero connection to Russia's vital interests.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    You “think”? OK I suppose it must be true then

    Well I can’t be bothered to research it at the moment, but I am sure about it – anyway the core statement that “neutrality” was nothing to be grateful for from A-H or Prussia when 3 great powers are fighting against one, and it’s a war with a large naval element to it, and for the sea arena at least they wouldn’t be expected to contribute much … is of course correct. Core statement that Habsburgs declaring neutrality after Russia stopping Hungarian insurrection is the worst type of Judas action…… is 100% correct.

    A decade later they fought a war against eachother

    Well you have got me with that. Which war BTW? I did write thinking they had only fought before then, but I am happy to have my ignorance corrected

    You are entering parody territory. Those stupid Balkan matters. They had zero connection to Russian’s vital interests.

    1. Defeating Ottoman Empire out of Orthodox or Slavic land not a legitimate vital interest or aspiration? Would Germany have same view if Northern Italy or Austria were Ottoman run instead of the Balkans?

    2. Why is it in the western powers interests but not Russian’s over the Balkans after the Ottoman empire removed from there? Only “vital interest” it looks here to me is western powers stopping a mass pro-Russian pan-Slavic or Orthodox liberated series of states

    3. Is it not very rare in history where the military winner then has such small political rewards over the states it has liberated and helped create such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania etc?

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Gerard1234


    Which war BTW?
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Prussian_War

    Is it not very rare in history where the military winner then has such small political rewards over the states it has liberated and helped create such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania etc?
     
    Maybe, but those were essentially just matters of prestige, they were hardly vital interests.
    And even as it was, Romania and Greece were eventually on the same side as Russia in WW1. iirc Bulgaria wasn't mostly just because it wanted revenge against Serbia and Greece for its territorial losses in the 2nd Balkans war (which may already be indicative of the wisdom of Balkans entanglements). So all that paranoia and outrage about German kings was exaggerated anyway.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @Beckow
    @Gerard1234


    ...Habsburgs declaring neutrality after Russia stopping Hungarian insurrection is the worst type of Judas action
     
    It was a very contentious decision for Vienna: Habsburgs betraying their long-term Russian ally over the Crimean war in the 1850's effectively ended A-H as a viable state in the long run. They had no raison d'etre after that: just an unwieldy collection of nations and religions that couldn't be held together.

    It was also a civilizational choice: go with the German-Western Euro world, help them block the eastern, mostly Orthodox revival as the Ottomans collapsed. Habs spent the next 60 years fighting in the Balkans only to eventually destroy their empire over that ambition.

    Why did they betray? It seemed like a good idea at that time to block Russia and save the Ottomans, and fishing for territories in the Balkans. The east-west existential struggle over Central-Eastern Europe has gone on for hundreds of years - it is a natural expansion area for the more advanced westerners. They can never resist.

    Russia has so far always beat them, the West threw all they had at them and lost. Who can forget the Dutch SS division under Moscow, Italians on Volga (?), and Germans, always the Germans. Today we see an almost comical version of the same pattern: the West is too emasculated to fight so the hapless local Ukies have been recruited, the pathological hatreds have resurfaced without any regard for how one actually uses them (a hint: demonizing your enemy is the worst way to demotivate them...)

    But the West owns the "narrative" so it will be all good: the evil will maybe prevail, but they got hurt and in any case, those are faraway wastelands of no interest to the better people. Aesop wrote a nice tale about it, something about sour grapes...

  736. @QCIC
    @songbird

    I hope he has GTA.

    Replies: @songbird

    Many of the Japanese have such an idealized vision of America – something more like the ’50s – that it would be a shame to ruin that for him, IMO

  737. German_reader says:
    @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    You "think"? OK I suppose it must be true then
     
    Well I can't be bothered to research it at the moment, but I am sure about it - anyway the core statement that "neutrality" was nothing to be grateful for from A-H or Prussia when 3 great powers are fighting against one, and it's a war with a large naval element to it, and for the sea arena at least they wouldn't be expected to contribute much ... is of course correct. Core statement that Habsburgs declaring neutrality after Russia stopping Hungarian insurrection is the worst type of Judas action...... is 100% correct.

    A decade later they fought a war against eachother
     
    Well you have got me with that. Which war BTW? I did write thinking they had only fought before then, but I am happy to have my ignorance corrected

    You are entering parody territory. Those stupid Balkan matters. They had zero connection to Russian's vital interests.
     
    1. Defeating Ottoman Empire out of Orthodox or Slavic land not a legitimate vital interest or aspiration? Would Germany have same view if Northern Italy or Austria were Ottoman run instead of the Balkans?

    2. Why is it in the western powers interests but not Russian's over the Balkans after the Ottoman empire removed from there? Only "vital interest" it looks here to me is western powers stopping a mass pro-Russian pan-Slavic or Orthodox liberated series of states

    3. Is it not very rare in history where the military winner then has such small political rewards over the states it has liberated and helped create such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania etc?

    Replies: @German_reader, @Beckow

    Which war BTW?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Prussian_War

    Is it not very rare in history where the military winner then has such small political rewards over the states it has liberated and helped create such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania etc?

    Maybe, but those were essentially just matters of prestige, they were hardly vital interests.
    And even as it was, Romania and Greece were eventually on the same side as Russia in WW1. iirc Bulgaria wasn’t mostly just because it wanted revenge against Serbia and Greece for its territorial losses in the 2nd Balkans war (which may already be indicative of the wisdom of Balkans entanglements). So all that paranoia and outrage about German kings was exaggerated anyway.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @German_reader

    It's one of these strange historical features that either Slavs or Orthodox have fought against each other or traitored more compared to inter-Catholic or inter-protestant...... but Protestant vs Catholic wars have been far more frequent and killed a lot more than Orthodox vs Catholic over the millennium.

    There has been wars of Protestant nations against Orthodox nations, but I don't think many of them had the religious issue as much of a connecting factor.
    Plenty of Protestants from Catholic lands in opposition then exile to it have made success around the world (Hugenouts) , but no similar pattern of that successful Catholics from the Orthodox lands


    Which may be indicative of the wisdom of Balkans entanglements
     
    What you mentioned from the slimeball behaviour of Romania and Bulgaria historical leadership could be compared with the deceitful, traitorous stupidity that would be
    with Israel declaring war on the US because of its frequent alliances with anti-Israel states for many decades.

    Or Britain declaring war on the US because of it's role in the Suez canal in the 1950s or for its support of the anti-Soviet argentine dictator who went to war with them over the Falkland Islands.

    The west produces scum at the top, but fortunately for them not suicidal cuckold scum like in plenty of the eastern elites.
  738. @Gerard1234
    @German_reader


    You "think"? OK I suppose it must be true then
     
    Well I can't be bothered to research it at the moment, but I am sure about it - anyway the core statement that "neutrality" was nothing to be grateful for from A-H or Prussia when 3 great powers are fighting against one, and it's a war with a large naval element to it, and for the sea arena at least they wouldn't be expected to contribute much ... is of course correct. Core statement that Habsburgs declaring neutrality after Russia stopping Hungarian insurrection is the worst type of Judas action...... is 100% correct.

    A decade later they fought a war against eachother
     
    Well you have got me with that. Which war BTW? I did write thinking they had only fought before then, but I am happy to have my ignorance corrected

    You are entering parody territory. Those stupid Balkan matters. They had zero connection to Russian's vital interests.
     
    1. Defeating Ottoman Empire out of Orthodox or Slavic land not a legitimate vital interest or aspiration? Would Germany have same view if Northern Italy or Austria were Ottoman run instead of the Balkans?

    2. Why is it in the western powers interests but not Russian's over the Balkans after the Ottoman empire removed from there? Only "vital interest" it looks here to me is western powers stopping a mass pro-Russian pan-Slavic or Orthodox liberated series of states

    3. Is it not very rare in history where the military winner then has such small political rewards over the states it has liberated and helped create such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania etc?

    Replies: @German_reader, @Beckow

    …Habsburgs declaring neutrality after Russia stopping Hungarian insurrection is the worst type of Judas action

    It was a very contentious decision for Vienna: Habsburgs betraying their long-term Russian ally over the Crimean war in the 1850’s effectively ended A-H as a viable state in the long run. They had no raison d’etre after that: just an unwieldy collection of nations and religions that couldn’t be held together.

    It was also a civilizational choice: go with the German-Western Euro world, help them block the eastern, mostly Orthodox revival as the Ottomans collapsed. Habs spent the next 60 years fighting in the Balkans only to eventually destroy their empire over that ambition.

    Why did they betray? It seemed like a good idea at that time to block Russia and save the Ottomans, and fishing for territories in the Balkans. The east-west existential struggle over Central-Eastern Europe has gone on for hundreds of years – it is a natural expansion area for the more advanced westerners. They can never resist.

    Russia has so far always beat them, the West threw all they had at them and lost. Who can forget the Dutch SS division under Moscow, Italians on Volga (?), and Germans, always the Germans. Today we see an almost comical version of the same pattern: the West is too emasculated to fight so the hapless local Ukies have been recruited, the pathological hatreds have resurfaced without any regard for how one actually uses them (a hint: demonizing your enemy is the worst way to demotivate them…)

    But the West owns the “narrative” so it will be all good: the evil will maybe prevail, but they got hurt and in any case, those are faraway wastelands of no interest to the better people. Aesop wrote a nice tale about it, something about sour grapes…

  739. Pasulka does Rogan!

    It took Joe 2 minutes to go right off the rails with psychedelic drugs.

    It took Diana 6 minutes to go right off the rails with quantum mechanics.

    I’ve only watched the first 7 minutes. I’m sure it would be really great if I was stoned but I got stoned a week ago and I’m not even close to ready to go there again.

  740. @songbird
    Wonder if there is some way to weaponize the elderly, by having them operate drones, or whether it would be better done with AI.

    https://youtu.be/YCXxIX6HiWE?si=q6OvSDsK9cKLaxKO

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sher Singh

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Sher Singh

    Are we sure they weren't both Indians?

    Replies: @Sher Singh

  741. @German_reader
    @songbird


    didn’t one of his sons become a tranny?
     
    But doesn't he have like a dozen or so? He can just write off the tranny one as a regrettable loss and focus on the others.
    And frankly, he deserves worse for how he's account-walled Twitter. Maybe the ADL should force him to commit public suicide.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yevardian

    And frankly, he deserves worse for how he’s account-walled Twitter. Maybe the ADL should force him to commit public suicide.

    Jeez dude, what’s the difference? What’s so unbearable about making a burner email for a locked account where no passerby can follow you or see who you’re following?

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Yevardian

    Having an account leads to temptation to interact with other people on Twitter, which is a waste of time (similarly to most of the "discussions" here tbh, which more and more resemble a Sisyphean vision of hell).
    But I can't think of an easier way than Twitter to stay informed about the news, and sometimes you find links to interesting articles, reviews of books etc. which you otherwise wouldn't have noticed. Just find it annoying that they've destroyed usability of the site for people who just want to read it, but have no desire to get sucked into its toxic user culture.

  742. @Sher Singh
    @Yevardian

    Could just make another discord for karlin folks.
    The strains of autism can have own channels.

    Barbarossa has my email and also Yahya's.
    Wanna join an email thread?

    Replies: @Yevardian

    Hard pass on discord but

  743. @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN

    Russia may have enough missiles to destroy the whole world including itself, but unfortunately it doesn't have enough fuel to warm the peoples' homes. This is not a cartoon Professor, but a reality that you'd rather sweep under the carpet. Perhaps it's really you that has a hard time dealing with reality and needs to see a shrink?

    https://youtu.be/7X4T6OJCA6s
    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    How much of retarded idiot do you have to be to believe and link this imbecilic dogshit,Hack? At least if you are going to link disinfo idiocy…… have the IQ not to link one showing “UA” so strikingly titled on the video you stupid cretin!!!

    There is NO “communal crisis” you stupid dickhead, just the usual issues that occur every year to about 0.1% of the population, when there are extreme blizzards and cold temperatures and problem takes one quarter of a day to solve, though some of the problems are related to too much new apartment constructions built and the utilities not aligned with it.

    Overall, In other words, the complete opposite of the khokhol cesspit.

    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia

    America has definitely had more bridge collapses than Russia in the last 12 months you idiot….. and probably more electricity grid problems and other infrastructure-related problems.
    Are you having your bar mitzvah in Bukovina this year, Hack? It’s a certainty that US heavily urbanised areas wouldn’t survive with these weather conditions to function as Russia

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234

    Errrr.....Gerard goes full ballistic on me. I must have hit a raw nerve here (and wrote something useful).

    Hey Gerard, check out AP's reply #727. I think he's revealed the truth of the matter there.

  744. German_reader says:
    @Yevardian
    @German_reader


    And frankly, he deserves worse for how he’s account-walled Twitter. Maybe the ADL should force him to commit public suicide.
     
    Jeez dude, what's the difference? What's so unbearable about making a burner email for a locked account where no passerby can follow you or see who you're following?

    Replies: @German_reader

    Having an account leads to temptation to interact with other people on Twitter, which is a waste of time (similarly to most of the “discussions” here tbh, which more and more resemble a Sisyphean vision of hell).
    But I can’t think of an easier way than Twitter to stay informed about the news, and sometimes you find links to interesting articles, reviews of books etc. which you otherwise wouldn’t have noticed. Just find it annoying that they’ve destroyed usability of the site for people who just want to read it, but have no desire to get sucked into its toxic user culture.

  745. @Emil Nikola Richard
    RT has a story about Hungary and Romania wanting to feast on carcass of dying Ukraine like coyotes on a croaked moose.

    https://www.rt.com/news/591417-eu-urged-to-take-piece-of-ukraine/

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    That is not a story about Hungary and Romania.

    It is about statements from isolated lawmakers in those countries.

    Our Homeland leader Laszlo Toroczkai made the remarks at a conference where the party, which has six lawmakers in the 199-strong Hungarian parliament, hosted far-right leaders
    https://www.jpost.com/international/internationalrussia-ukraine-war/article-784026

    6 seats in a 199 seat parliament.

    Of course Russian media will not mention that and instead depict Hungary and Romania as joining Russia. I guarantee that story will run within 24 hours.

    The dwarf and his supporters do not like a simple discussion of the facts.

    As with the left they have an instinctive fear of the truth. They don’t trust that it will work for them.

  746. @Negronicus
    @Mr. Hack

    Russian tank: $100,000. Ukrainian grenade: $3,000,000 straight from US supply closet. But that's just tax payer money.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    Russian tank: $100,000. Ukrainian grenade: $3,000,000 straight from US supply closet. But that’s just tax payer money.

    Ukraine had plenty of grenades before the war. They inherited huge stocks of USSR era weapons.

    US taxpayer money isn’t going to small arms. We have plenty that are sitting around in storage. The US could probably give every Ukrainian soldier an M4 and still have leftovers. Nearby European countries have also given them plenty of small arms. What they need are more HIMARs and ATACMs.

    A T-72 costs $1,200,00 to replace.
    https://www.thefivecoatconsultinggroup.com/the-coronavirus-crisis/ukraine-context-d33

    An FPV drone with a grenade is about $500.

    The Ukrainians have mastered using RPG warheads with drones. I’ve seen them take out T-72s without a hatch open. Incredible.

    From what I have read the latest Russian attacks have failed due to a combination of drones and Soviet era anti-tank mines.

  747. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...East has more far right radicals fighting (Azov in Kharkiv, Right Sector in Dnipropetrovsk) ...but the percentage of “regular people” like the poor professor who volunteer is lower than in the West and Center.
     
    Probably true, often the most devoted radicals come from the borderlands - some of the worst Nazis were Silesians, Sudetens and Austrians. But the percentage of the devoted Ukie nationalists is much lower in the east and south - and their "bitterness" is skin-deep, the usual war bitterness that s..t is happening. They will blame Russia, but also the West, Kiev, Galicians...you don't understand this natural human dynamic. Read about how average Germans felt about the Nazis after WW2 - or Belgians, French, Norwegians, Czechs who previously collaborated. The same will happen in the eastern Ukraine and the professors kids will only be left with regrets. Is it really worth it to sacrifice everything for "Ukraine road to the West" - it effectively means just a road to Nato. What an honorable thing to die for. What's next, sacrifices for king Charles III?

    The Ukie drivers I have talked to are usually very meek - they say 'oh, it's horrible', they blame fate, say they want peace. They remind one of the fatalistic mestizos in US. Most will stay as nomadic service people in all corners of the world: mixed and broken families, no sense of home...

    We are watching what could have been a great nation slowly being destroyed in front of our eyes, not the least by their own stupidity. I can see the memorials 50 years from now in Lvov: endless names of people who died for the "right to join Nato"...

    Replies: @AP

    Probably true, often the most devoted radicals come from the borderlands – some of the worst Nazis were Silesians, Sudetens and Austrians. But the percentage of the devoted Ukie nationalists is much lower in the east and south

    It depends on how you define that. There certainly seem to be more extreme nationalist radicals like Azov in the East and South. But these are a small number anywhere. Generally speaking, the South and East is less patriotic, but the Russian invasion has changed things. Getting one’s home bombed by the Russians leads to a different view of Russians than one had before. Russia is now despised by most people even in the East and South.

    I posted this before, but here a pro-Russian (himself an ethnic Russian) historian, Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia:

    “Zaporizhia is a mostly Russian-speaking city which in the past consistently voted for parties that advocated good relations with Russia. I can assure you that there is no affection for the Russian state and army in Zaporizhia today.”

    “…in and around Kyiv, there is — very understandably — a great deal of hate-filled language directed at the Russian people and Russian culture in general. In Zaporizhia, hatred is directed at the Russian government and armed forces — especially of course the air force. But since so many people there are partly Russian themselves, and with relatives in Russia, there is much less of this kind of quasi-racist talk about ordinary Russians.”

    So hatred of the Russian state is universal in Ukraine, but there are regional differences when it comes to hatred towards the Russian nation.

    and their “bitterness” is skin-deep

    Not at all. When one’s friends or relatives have been killed the feelings are not shallow. They will exist for a generation or two.

    I remember before the war, a Russian nationalist poster here, “Felix Keverich”, was insisting that Ukrainian nationalism was shallow and ephemeral, that it would just disappear as soon as Russia invaded, that resistance would be brief, and that the people of Ukraine would become “good Russians” quickly. How stupid that was. He doesn’t show his face here anymore.

    you don’t understand this natural human dynamic. Read about how average Germans felt about the Nazis after WW2

    The Germans under their Nazi rulers started World War II.

    Ukraine was invaded by Russia.

    The Eastern and Southern Ukrainians will rather feel like the Poles etc. felt towards the Germans.

    The same will happen in the eastern Ukraine and the professors kids will only be left with regrets.

    They will probably view their father in the same way that Poles, Dutch, or others feel about their fathers who fell in battle against those who invaded their country.

    Is it really worth it to sacrifice everything for “Ukraine road to the West”

    We know that you are incapable of understanding patriotic feelings, your people naturally sold themselves to whoever happened to be stronger, without a fight. You think doing so is smart and virtuous. So you can only understand resistance to Russia as being subservience to NATO and nothing more, and condemning Ukrainians for making a “foolish” choice by not choosing the stronger or more immediate master. That is the only way you are capable of understanding this conflict. Whom to serve? Whose lackey to be?

    The Ukie drivers I have talked to are usually very meek – they say ‘oh, it’s horrible’, they blame fate, say they want peace. They remind one of the fatalistic mestizos in US

    Maybe. I would caution you however not to base your understanding of people in Ukraine upon the attitudes of draft dodgers you come across in the West. They are not representative.

    We are watching what could have been a great nation slowly being destroyed in front of our eyes

    It’s more like the birth of a nation through fire. The last remnants of the Sovok legacy burn away. It is a scary, violent, and often tragic and terrible process. Much better to have bumbled along in peace. But it was not to be.

    • LOL: LondonBob
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    AP quoted:


    Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia: “...In Zaporizhia, hatred is directed at the Russian government and armed forces — especially of course the air force."
     
    Can someone link to drone footage showing the present state of destruction in the city of Zaporizhia? Is there an estimate of how many civilians still live there or the total number of civilian casualties in the city?

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    I posted this before, but here a pro-Russian (himself an ethnic Russian) historian, Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia:
     
    Isn't Anatol Lieven in large part of Baltic German and British Isles descent? His paternal line is Baltic German and his mom's maiden name suggests Irish ancestry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatol_Lieven

    "Peter Paul Anatol Lieven was born on 28 June 1960 in London to Alexander and Veronica Eileen Mary Lieven (née Monahan).[7]"

    So, referring to him as an ethnic Russian is only partially accurate at best. Maybe comparable to Vladimir Lenin in his Russian-ness. (Lenin was 1/4 ethnic Russian.)
  748. @German_reader
    @Gerard1234


    Which war BTW?
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Prussian_War

    Is it not very rare in history where the military winner then has such small political rewards over the states it has liberated and helped create such as Bulgaria, Greece, Romania etc?
     
    Maybe, but those were essentially just matters of prestige, they were hardly vital interests.
    And even as it was, Romania and Greece were eventually on the same side as Russia in WW1. iirc Bulgaria wasn't mostly just because it wanted revenge against Serbia and Greece for its territorial losses in the 2nd Balkans war (which may already be indicative of the wisdom of Balkans entanglements). So all that paranoia and outrage about German kings was exaggerated anyway.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    It’s one of these strange historical features that either Slavs or Orthodox have fought against each other or traitored more compared to inter-Catholic or inter-protestant…… but Protestant vs Catholic wars have been far more frequent and killed a lot more than Orthodox vs Catholic over the millennium.

    There has been wars of Protestant nations against Orthodox nations, but I don’t think many of them had the religious issue as much of a connecting factor.
    Plenty of Protestants from Catholic lands in opposition then exile to it have made success around the world (Hugenouts) , but no similar pattern of that successful Catholics from the Orthodox lands

    Which may be indicative of the wisdom of Balkans entanglements

    What you mentioned from the slimeball behaviour of Romania and Bulgaria historical leadership could be compared with the deceitful, traitorous stupidity that would be
    with Israel declaring war on the US because of its frequent alliances with anti-Israel states for many decades.

    Or Britain declaring war on the US because of it’s role in the Suez canal in the 1950s or for its support of the anti-Soviet argentine dictator who went to war with them over the Falkland Islands.

    The west produces scum at the top, but fortunately for them not suicidal cuckold scum like in plenty of the eastern elites.

  749. @Sher Singh
    @songbird

    https://twitter.com/Hatindersinghr3/status/1751562434060628059

    Replies: @songbird

    Are we sure they weren’t both Indians?

    • Replies: @Sher Singh
    @songbird

    Good point.

    Anyone else want to drop an email?

    Just sent something to barbarossa, yahya & yevardian.

    I honestly don't care for the constant re-hashing of Communist history.

    MOVE THE FUCK ON BOOMERS!
    -==

    I need to go buy a new lat bar (need knurling)
    Also check out reverse squats - they're great for hip flexors.

  750. Mr. Hack’s documentary on squirrels:

    [MORE]

    Haven’t seen the whole thing yet, but I thought it was interesting when they said that there is a different species of squirrels in black neighborhoods (due to pitbulls?), that once lived throughout Chicago, and that the gray is a sort of invader in much of city, facilitated by the leash laws. (Could this have been a factor in the spread of possums north?)

    I wonder whether Barack Obama knew about this difference.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Check out those super large squirrels in the mountains. :-)

    , @John Johnson
    @songbird

    that once lived throughout Chicago, and that the gray is a sort of invader in much of city, facilitated by the leash laws. (Could this have been a factor in the spread of possums north?)

    Squirrels are master invaders. Most dogs can't catch them. They just have to find a tree to escape.

    The reason there are so many squirrels in America is that they lack predators. There are fewer owls and hawks in urban areas. Those are the best hunters of the squirrel. The squirrel can't just run up a tree and wait.

    Rats, squirrels and pigeons all have the same problem. Not enough predators and urbanites don't shoot them.

    Urban Whites think squirrels are cute but haven't seen video of them eating baby birds alive.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

  751. @AP
    @Beckow


    Probably true, often the most devoted radicals come from the borderlands – some of the worst Nazis were Silesians, Sudetens and Austrians. But the percentage of the devoted Ukie nationalists is much lower in the east and south
     
    It depends on how you define that. There certainly seem to be more extreme nationalist radicals like Azov in the East and South. But these are a small number anywhere. Generally speaking, the South and East is less patriotic, but the Russian invasion has changed things. Getting one's home bombed by the Russians leads to a different view of Russians than one had before. Russia is now despised by most people even in the East and South.

    I posted this before, but here a pro-Russian (himself an ethnic Russian) historian, Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia:

    "Zaporizhia is a mostly Russian-speaking city which in the past consistently voted for parties that advocated good relations with Russia. I can assure you that there is no affection for the Russian state and army in Zaporizhia today."

    "...in and around Kyiv, there is — very understandably — a great deal of hate-filled language directed at the Russian people and Russian culture in general. In Zaporizhia, hatred is directed at the Russian government and armed forces — especially of course the air force. But since so many people there are partly Russian themselves, and with relatives in Russia, there is much less of this kind of quasi-racist talk about ordinary Russians."

    So hatred of the Russian state is universal in Ukraine, but there are regional differences when it comes to hatred towards the Russian nation.

    and their “bitterness” is skin-deep
     
    Not at all. When one's friends or relatives have been killed the feelings are not shallow. They will exist for a generation or two.

    I remember before the war, a Russian nationalist poster here, "Felix Keverich", was insisting that Ukrainian nationalism was shallow and ephemeral, that it would just disappear as soon as Russia invaded, that resistance would be brief, and that the people of Ukraine would become "good Russians" quickly. How stupid that was. He doesn't show his face here anymore.

    you don’t understand this natural human dynamic. Read about how average Germans felt about the Nazis after WW2
     
    The Germans under their Nazi rulers started World War II.

    Ukraine was invaded by Russia.

    The Eastern and Southern Ukrainians will rather feel like the Poles etc. felt towards the Germans.

    The same will happen in the eastern Ukraine and the professors kids will only be left with regrets.
     
    They will probably view their father in the same way that Poles, Dutch, or others feel about their fathers who fell in battle against those who invaded their country.

    Is it really worth it to sacrifice everything for “Ukraine road to the West”
     
    We know that you are incapable of understanding patriotic feelings, your people naturally sold themselves to whoever happened to be stronger, without a fight. You think doing so is smart and virtuous. So you can only understand resistance to Russia as being subservience to NATO and nothing more, and condemning Ukrainians for making a "foolish" choice by not choosing the stronger or more immediate master. That is the only way you are capable of understanding this conflict. Whom to serve? Whose lackey to be?

    The Ukie drivers I have talked to are usually very meek – they say ‘oh, it’s horrible’, they blame fate, say they want peace. They remind one of the fatalistic mestizos in US
     
    Maybe. I would caution you however not to base your understanding of people in Ukraine upon the attitudes of draft dodgers you come across in the West. They are not representative.

    We are watching what could have been a great nation slowly being destroyed in front of our eyes
     
    It's more like the birth of a nation through fire. The last remnants of the Sovok legacy burn away. It is a scary, violent, and often tragic and terrible process. Much better to have bumbled along in peace. But it was not to be.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    AP quoted:

    Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia: “…In Zaporizhia, hatred is directed at the Russian government and armed forces — especially of course the air force.”

    Can someone link to drone footage showing the present state of destruction in the city of Zaporizhia? Is there an estimate of how many civilians still live there or the total number of civilian casualties in the city?

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC

    Lieven wrote that the city of Zaporizhia was mostly intact, with only a handful of buildings damaged. Here was one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Zaporizhzhia_residential_building_airstrike

    Lieven observed:

    "there are a limited number of attacks. In the ten days I spent in Zaporizhia, eleven missiles and drones were fired at the city. That seems like quite a lot, but Zaporizhia is a city of more than 700,000 people. Most fell so far away that I hardly heard them. At night I slept through them. And casualties were small: one person killed and about thirty wounded. This also reflects the great effectiveness of Ukrainian anti-missile fire, especially against drones, which though numerous are also very slow."

    Also:

    "I saw clear evidence of the inaccuracy of Russian missiles — especially S-300 anti-aircraft missiles, which should not be used in a ground attack role for which they are not designed. For example, in Dnipro, the Russians clearly tried to hit the headquarters of the Ukrainian security service, missed, and instead demolished a row of shops opposite, only breaking the windows of the SBU building. "

  752. @songbird
    Mr. Hack's documentary on squirrels:

    https://youtu.be/XIHekYpkJO0?si=WBuwSmz5yky_XZOH

    Haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I thought it was interesting when they said that there is a different species of squirrels in black neighborhoods (due to pitbulls?), that once lived throughout Chicago, and that the gray is a sort of invader in much of city, facilitated by the leash laws. (Could this have been a factor in the spread of possums north?)

    I wonder whether Barack Obama knew about this difference.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    Check out those super large squirrels in the mountains. 🙂

  753. @Beckow
    @A123

    There are plenty of neo-cons among Republicans - who do you think Haley or the never-Trumpers are? They run the party in Washington and get along very well with the Dem neo-cons....maybe they will be eventually pushed out, but it will take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. I don't think we have that much time.

    Ireland is under the UK umbrella and strategically unimportant. The six EU candidates (mostly Balkans) are all also first waiting to join Nato. Nothing has changed.

    Swedes and Scandies have become retards - too much 'liberalism' of all kinds. They think there are Russian subs in the Stockholm harbour. They are by now pathologically conformist, they have always been de facto in Nato - now it will be official. Previous to that both Sweden and Finland were very active allies of Germany in WW2. They have always been on that side.

    I will bet that Ukraine without first being in Nato will never be in EU. Georgia is so far remote and it was always such a stupid idea that even commenting on that feels unreal.


    It is not written down anywhere in EU rules
     
    The most important rules and taboos are never written down - the ones that are unmentionable and can never be broken.

    Replies: @A123, @A123

    There are plenty of neo-cons among Republicans – who do you think Haley or the never-Trumpers are? They run the party in Washington and get along very well with the Dem neo-cons….maybe they will be eventually pushed out, but it will take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. I don’t think we have that much time.

    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists. Mikel springs immediately to mind. Is he a NeoCon for team McConnell/Bolton? No. He is with Trump & against Bolton.

    Purging the NeoConDemocrats should not take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. They are already exiting with great enthusiasm. As we have seen with the failed attempt to bribe Kari Lake, team Bolton is on the run away from MAGA’s Trump 2024 election.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists. Mikel springs immediately to mind. Is he a NeoCon for team McConnell/Bolton? No. He is with Trump & against Bolton.

    Did you see that your orange brah probably made up a $50 million dollar loan?
    https://news.yahoo.com/special-monitor-suggests-trump-falsified-071730176.html

    I knew Trump was a tax cheat when he dragged his feet on releasing his taxes.

    He clearly wasn't trying to run a clean business.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. Hack

  754. @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    How much of retarded idiot do you have to be to believe and link this imbecilic dogshit,Hack? At least if you are going to link disinfo idiocy...... have the IQ not to link one showing "UA" so strikingly titled on the video you stupid cretin!!!

    There is NO "communal crisis" you stupid dickhead, just the usual issues that occur every year to about 0.1% of the population, when there are extreme blizzards and cold temperatures and problem takes one quarter of a day to solve, though some of the problems are related to too much new apartment constructions built and the utilities not aligned with it.

    Overall, In other words, the complete opposite of the khokhol cesspit.


    Be grateful Professor that you live in America and not in Ruzzia
     
    America has definitely had more bridge collapses than Russia in the last 12 months you idiot..... and probably more electricity grid problems and other infrastructure-related problems.
    Are you having your bar mitzvah in Bukovina this year, Hack? It's a certainty that US heavily urbanised areas wouldn't survive with these weather conditions to function as Russia

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Errrr…..Gerard goes full ballistic on me. I must have hit a raw nerve here (and wrote something useful).

    Hey Gerard, check out AP’s reply #727. I think he’s revealed the truth of the matter there.

  755. @AP
    @Beckow


    Probably true, often the most devoted radicals come from the borderlands – some of the worst Nazis were Silesians, Sudetens and Austrians. But the percentage of the devoted Ukie nationalists is much lower in the east and south
     
    It depends on how you define that. There certainly seem to be more extreme nationalist radicals like Azov in the East and South. But these are a small number anywhere. Generally speaking, the South and East is less patriotic, but the Russian invasion has changed things. Getting one's home bombed by the Russians leads to a different view of Russians than one had before. Russia is now despised by most people even in the East and South.

    I posted this before, but here a pro-Russian (himself an ethnic Russian) historian, Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia:

    "Zaporizhia is a mostly Russian-speaking city which in the past consistently voted for parties that advocated good relations with Russia. I can assure you that there is no affection for the Russian state and army in Zaporizhia today."

    "...in and around Kyiv, there is — very understandably — a great deal of hate-filled language directed at the Russian people and Russian culture in general. In Zaporizhia, hatred is directed at the Russian government and armed forces — especially of course the air force. But since so many people there are partly Russian themselves, and with relatives in Russia, there is much less of this kind of quasi-racist talk about ordinary Russians."

    So hatred of the Russian state is universal in Ukraine, but there are regional differences when it comes to hatred towards the Russian nation.

    and their “bitterness” is skin-deep
     
    Not at all. When one's friends or relatives have been killed the feelings are not shallow. They will exist for a generation or two.

    I remember before the war, a Russian nationalist poster here, "Felix Keverich", was insisting that Ukrainian nationalism was shallow and ephemeral, that it would just disappear as soon as Russia invaded, that resistance would be brief, and that the people of Ukraine would become "good Russians" quickly. How stupid that was. He doesn't show his face here anymore.

    you don’t understand this natural human dynamic. Read about how average Germans felt about the Nazis after WW2
     
    The Germans under their Nazi rulers started World War II.

    Ukraine was invaded by Russia.

    The Eastern and Southern Ukrainians will rather feel like the Poles etc. felt towards the Germans.

    The same will happen in the eastern Ukraine and the professors kids will only be left with regrets.
     
    They will probably view their father in the same way that Poles, Dutch, or others feel about their fathers who fell in battle against those who invaded their country.

    Is it really worth it to sacrifice everything for “Ukraine road to the West”
     
    We know that you are incapable of understanding patriotic feelings, your people naturally sold themselves to whoever happened to be stronger, without a fight. You think doing so is smart and virtuous. So you can only understand resistance to Russia as being subservience to NATO and nothing more, and condemning Ukrainians for making a "foolish" choice by not choosing the stronger or more immediate master. That is the only way you are capable of understanding this conflict. Whom to serve? Whose lackey to be?

    The Ukie drivers I have talked to are usually very meek – they say ‘oh, it’s horrible’, they blame fate, say they want peace. They remind one of the fatalistic mestizos in US
     
    Maybe. I would caution you however not to base your understanding of people in Ukraine upon the attitudes of draft dodgers you come across in the West. They are not representative.

    We are watching what could have been a great nation slowly being destroyed in front of our eyes
     
    It's more like the birth of a nation through fire. The last remnants of the Sovok legacy burn away. It is a scary, violent, and often tragic and terrible process. Much better to have bumbled along in peace. But it was not to be.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    I posted this before, but here a pro-Russian (himself an ethnic Russian) historian, Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia:

    Isn’t Anatol Lieven in large part of Baltic German and British Isles descent? His paternal line is Baltic German and his mom’s maiden name suggests Irish ancestry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatol_Lieven

    “Peter Paul Anatol Lieven was born on 28 June 1960 in London to Alexander and Veronica Eileen Mary Lieven (née Monahan).[7]”

    So, referring to him as an ethnic Russian is only partially accurate at best. Maybe comparable to Vladimir Lenin in his Russian-ness. (Lenin was 1/4 ethnic Russian.)

  756. @German_reader
    @AP


    One of them told me that almost all the Ukrainian guys from Kiev and western Ukraine returned to Ukraine to serve their country; as a result among men only Easterners were left in Poland.
     
    In other words, people from the regions where the war is actually being fought and which are at risk of annexation by Russia aren't enthusiastic about fighting and have a rather under-developed Ukrainian patriotism. I have no idea if this is true, but if it is, the implications aren't positive for Ukraine's cause.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. XYZ

    Well, if one wants to be fair, Russians themselves have not exactly been super-enthusiastic about fighting. After all, look at just how few volunteers Russia got relative to its total healthy adult male population. In general, Sovokness tends to breed cynicism and apathy. This is why I suspect that most Ukrainians (perhaps excluding some activists in Galicia and Kiev) would have passively accepted the continuation of the Soviet Union had the August 1991 coup attempt been successful, for instance. Most Ukrainians were still Sovoks back then.

    Russia had hoped to turn most Ukrainians back into Sovoks with its invasion of Ukraine.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Well, if one wants to be fair, Russians themselves have not exactly been super-enthusiastic about fighting.

    Russia has been using Muslim retreat troops since the war started.

    Muslims have no problem gunning down Russian Orthodox men. They don't view them as kin and Islam condones killing non-Muslims.

    There are also more Asians being gunned down that people realize. Putin's fans seem to imagine Russia as a White state.

    Putin is depending heavily on Central Asians and Tatars to do the fighting. I saw a documentary a few weeks ago where in this Siberian village all the men were gone.

    They were dead.

    When the war is over it will come out that Putin marched all kinds of minorities off to their deaths and without even 2 weeks of training. They're just dumping them on the front to wear down the Ukrainians. The MO is to lie to conscripts and tell them they won't be fighting. Then they take them to the front and tell them they can charge or be shot in the back (and their family won't get a payment).

    What a country.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  757. @Mr. XYZ
    @German_reader

    Well, if one wants to be fair, Russians themselves have not exactly been super-enthusiastic about fighting. After all, look at just how few volunteers Russia got relative to its total healthy adult male population. In general, Sovokness tends to breed cynicism and apathy. This is why I suspect that most Ukrainians (perhaps excluding some activists in Galicia and Kiev) would have passively accepted the continuation of the Soviet Union had the August 1991 coup attempt been successful, for instance. Most Ukrainians were still Sovoks back then.

    Russia had hoped to turn most Ukrainians back into Sovoks with its invasion of Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Well, if one wants to be fair, Russians themselves have not exactly been super-enthusiastic about fighting.

    Russia has been using Muslim retreat troops since the war started.

    Muslims have no problem gunning down Russian Orthodox men. They don’t view them as kin and Islam condones killing non-Muslims.

    There are also more Asians being gunned down that people realize. Putin’s fans seem to imagine Russia as a White state.

    Putin is depending heavily on Central Asians and Tatars to do the fighting. I saw a documentary a few weeks ago where in this Siberian village all the men were gone.

    They were dead.

    When the war is over it will come out that Putin marched all kinds of minorities off to their deaths and without even 2 weeks of training. They’re just dumping them on the front to wear down the Ukrainians. The MO is to lie to conscripts and tell them they won’t be fighting. Then they take them to the front and tell them they can charge or be shot in the back (and their family won’t get a payment).

    What a country.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Yeah, Russia drafts minorities and the less prominent members of society (rural/provincial losers/marginals) and is thus able to reduce public backlash to its war in Ukraine. It's working relatively well so far, but the question is, can it actually continue indefinitely?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  758. @songbird
    Mr. Hack's documentary on squirrels:

    https://youtu.be/XIHekYpkJO0?si=WBuwSmz5yky_XZOH

    Haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I thought it was interesting when they said that there is a different species of squirrels in black neighborhoods (due to pitbulls?), that once lived throughout Chicago, and that the gray is a sort of invader in much of city, facilitated by the leash laws. (Could this have been a factor in the spread of possums north?)

    I wonder whether Barack Obama knew about this difference.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @John Johnson

    that once lived throughout Chicago, and that the gray is a sort of invader in much of city, facilitated by the leash laws. (Could this have been a factor in the spread of possums north?)

    Squirrels are master invaders. Most dogs can’t catch them. They just have to find a tree to escape.

    The reason there are so many squirrels in America is that they lack predators. There are fewer owls and hawks in urban areas. Those are the best hunters of the squirrel. The squirrel can’t just run up a tree and wait.

    Rats, squirrels and pigeons all have the same problem. Not enough predators and urbanites don’t shoot them.

    Urban Whites think squirrels are cute but haven’t seen video of them eating baby birds alive.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    Urban Whites think squirrels are cute but haven’t seen video of them eating baby birds alive.
     
    They're not able to obtain their favorite bird already cleaned, seasoned and perfectly broiled, still only for $5. I've been thinking of picking up two the next time I go to Costco, one for me and one for my 3 cats. Fortunately, no squirrels live around here.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jv3nI0G229k/TOmGjC53evI/AAAAAAAAD30/UfSHNwXOU90/s400/IMG_3170.JPG

    Is it a chicken or a small turkey? A better life through better chemistry?
    , @songbird
    @John Johnson


    Squirrels are master invaders.

     

    It's amazing all the progress the gray made in the UK, despite probably expanding from fairly inbred pockets.

    People used to eat squirrels like they were candy bars for thousands of years.

    @Mr. Hack

    their favorite bird already cleaned, seasoned and perfectly broiled, still only for $5
     
    A squirrel trap would set you back only $12, and you could reuse it.

    Some say the meat tastes like a fusion between chicken and rabbit. Others that it is simultaneously musky and nutty.

    My aunt used to have a cat that quite liked the taste of the body, but would always leave the head on the stairs to make the mailman scream. Other creatures (cats?) I have known to disregard the tail and liver.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  759. @A123
    @Beckow


    There are plenty of neo-cons among Republicans – who do you think Haley or the never-Trumpers are? They run the party in Washington and get along very well with the Dem neo-cons….maybe they will be eventually pushed out, but it will take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. I don’t think we have that much time.
     
    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists. Mikel springs immediately to mind. Is he a NeoCon for team McConnell/Bolton? No. He is with Trump & against Bolton.

    Purging the NeoConDemocrats should not take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. They are already exiting with great enthusiasm. As we have seen with the failed attempt to bribe Kari Lake, team Bolton is on the run away from MAGA's Trump 2024 election.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists. Mikel springs immediately to mind. Is he a NeoCon for team McConnell/Bolton? No. He is with Trump & against Bolton.

    Did you see that your orange brah probably made up a $50 million dollar loan?
    https://news.yahoo.com/special-monitor-suggests-trump-falsified-071730176.html

    I knew Trump was a tax cheat when he dragged his feet on releasing his taxes.

    He clearly wasn’t trying to run a clean business.

    • Troll: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    Despite your passion for the Star Wars franchise, it is in dismal financial shape.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJ1KNby7Qw

    Your SJW #NeverTrump ideology is producing unprofitable drivel. Why do you keep backing this unwatchable shlock?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    I knew Trump was a tax cheat when he dragged his feet on releasing his taxes.

    He clearly wasn’t trying to run a clean business.
     

    Aw, c'mon JJ, you're going to burst the "Trump can do no wrong" bubble that kremlinstoogeA123 inhabits. You do understand that his whole life revolves around Trump's reelection? And maintaining the fiction that Putler is a saint that is the great defender of Christendom in the world today. He's trying to lower his daily dependence on airplane glue, and any more such revelations as you're posting here might derail his quest to lead a glue less (clueless?) existence. :-)

    Replies: @John Johnson

  760. @Beckow
    @A123

    There are plenty of neo-cons among Republicans - who do you think Haley or the never-Trumpers are? They run the party in Washington and get along very well with the Dem neo-cons....maybe they will be eventually pushed out, but it will take 3 or 4 electoral cycles. I don't think we have that much time.

    Ireland is under the UK umbrella and strategically unimportant. The six EU candidates (mostly Balkans) are all also first waiting to join Nato. Nothing has changed.

    Swedes and Scandies have become retards - too much 'liberalism' of all kinds. They think there are Russian subs in the Stockholm harbour. They are by now pathologically conformist, they have always been de facto in Nato - now it will be official. Previous to that both Sweden and Finland were very active allies of Germany in WW2. They have always been on that side.

    I will bet that Ukraine without first being in Nato will never be in EU. Georgia is so far remote and it was always such a stupid idea that even commenting on that feels unreal.


    It is not written down anywhere in EU rules
     
    The most important rules and taboos are never written down - the ones that are unmentionable and can never be broken.

    Replies: @A123, @A123

    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists that are unsalvageable Trolls.

    I tried to avoid mentioning John Bolton Johnson. He is, of course, a passionate NeoConDemocrat warmonger. It is unsurprising that he backs Nikki Haley and her Forever Wars.

    Those of us in touch with reality realize that his #NeverTrump madness is in vain. Trump is polling +30% over NeoConDemocrat Haley in her home state of South Carolina (1).

    John Bolton Johnson and Nikki Haley need to change to the Democrat party ASAP. Their hatred of MAGA leaves them no other option.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/republican-primary/2024/south-carolina

  761. @John Johnson
    @A123

    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists. Mikel springs immediately to mind. Is he a NeoCon for team McConnell/Bolton? No. He is with Trump & against Bolton.

    Did you see that your orange brah probably made up a $50 million dollar loan?
    https://news.yahoo.com/special-monitor-suggests-trump-falsified-071730176.html

    I knew Trump was a tax cheat when he dragged his feet on releasing his taxes.

    He clearly wasn't trying to run a clean business.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. Hack

    Despite your passion for the Star Wars franchise, it is in dismal financial shape.

    Your SJW #NeverTrump ideology is producing unprofitable drivel. Why do you keep backing this unwatchable shlock?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Despite your passion for the Star Wars franchise, it is in dismal financial shape.

    LOL I haven't seen more than 15 minutes of the new movies. I'm sure you have seen them all but believe that "other Whites" are feeding Kathleen Kennedy.

    I did enjoy Mandalorian.

    Your SJW #NeverTrump ideology is producing unprofitable drivel. Why do you keep backing this unwatchable shlock?

    I don't own Disney stock but their movie department continues to turn a profit. Most companies would be thrilled to have your personal and irrational definition of "unprofitable" which for Disney means billions in the black. Movies will rebound even further and "other Whites" will line up to pay full price for comic book crap. But not you of course. Some other guy that listens to a podcast where a White comic nerd complains about Disney movies. Lemme tell you everything wrong with Aquaman 3 vs Transman. Disney needs to stop making these movies. I watched it the other day and was shocked.

    Any thoughts on Uncle Cheeto shutting down the border deal so he can take credit as president?

    Trump tells Republicans to not take border deal
    https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-flail-bipartisan-border-deal-183026315.html

    That deal would end the amnesty loophole.

    So Uncle Cheeto only cares about the amnesty loophole if he is president.

    What a guy.

  762. @A123
    @John Johnson

    Despite your passion for the Star Wars franchise, it is in dismal financial shape.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJ1KNby7Qw

    Your SJW #NeverTrump ideology is producing unprofitable drivel. Why do you keep backing this unwatchable shlock?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Despite your passion for the Star Wars franchise, it is in dismal financial shape.

    LOL I haven’t seen more than 15 minutes of the new movies. I’m sure you have seen them all but believe that “other Whites” are feeding Kathleen Kennedy.

    I did enjoy Mandalorian.

    Your SJW #NeverTrump ideology is producing unprofitable drivel. Why do you keep backing this unwatchable shlock?

    I don’t own Disney stock but their movie department continues to turn a profit. Most companies would be thrilled to have your personal and irrational definition of “unprofitable” which for Disney means billions in the black. Movies will rebound even further and “other Whites” will line up to pay full price for comic book crap. But not you of course. Some other guy that listens to a podcast where a White comic nerd complains about Disney movies. Lemme tell you everything wrong with Aquaman 3 vs Transman. Disney needs to stop making these movies. I watched it the other day and was shocked.

    Any thoughts on Uncle Cheeto shutting down the border deal so he can take credit as president?

    Trump tells Republicans to not take border deal
    https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-flail-bipartisan-border-deal-183026315.html

    That deal would end the amnesty loophole.

    So Uncle Cheeto only cares about the amnesty loophole if he is president.

    What a guy.

    • LOL: A123
  763. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Well, if one wants to be fair, Russians themselves have not exactly been super-enthusiastic about fighting.

    Russia has been using Muslim retreat troops since the war started.

    Muslims have no problem gunning down Russian Orthodox men. They don't view them as kin and Islam condones killing non-Muslims.

    There are also more Asians being gunned down that people realize. Putin's fans seem to imagine Russia as a White state.

    Putin is depending heavily on Central Asians and Tatars to do the fighting. I saw a documentary a few weeks ago where in this Siberian village all the men were gone.

    They were dead.

    When the war is over it will come out that Putin marched all kinds of minorities off to their deaths and without even 2 weeks of training. They're just dumping them on the front to wear down the Ukrainians. The MO is to lie to conscripts and tell them they won't be fighting. Then they take them to the front and tell them they can charge or be shot in the back (and their family won't get a payment).

    What a country.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Yeah, Russia drafts minorities and the less prominent members of society (rural/provincial losers/marginals) and is thus able to reduce public backlash to its war in Ukraine. It’s working relatively well so far, but the question is, can it actually continue indefinitely?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Yeah, Russia drafts minorities and the less prominent members of society (rural/provincial losers/marginals) and is thus able to reduce public backlash to its war in Ukraine.

    It seems that Russia has a rather large supply of Asian conscripts that will obey orders and rural Slavs that are recklessly drunk or borderline suicidal.

    Both British and Germans in past wars wrote about how they were surprised by how the Russian peasant seems content to die in a pointless battle for his Tsar, even if poorly equipped and forced to the front. Meaning they know the Tsar treats them like trash and they are fine with it. Both Germans and Finns in WW2 wrote about Russian meat waves that would charge at machine guns. The response to dead Russians was to send more Russians.

    I've read Finnish accounts where they only stopped mowing down Russians because they ran out of bullets or didn't have any more piss to cool the machine gun. They couldn't believe Russians would trudge close in deep snow. It just made them easy to shoot.

    And now a modern clip from the current war that shows what happens when you send out 2 week conscripts and don't explain that RPGs have a back blast.
    https://funker530.com/video/russian-crushes-his-buddy-with-rpg-back-blast/

    It’s working relatively well so far, but the question is, can it actually continue indefinitely?

    It appears that Putin wants to take Avdiivka at any price. If he really wanted to go after Odessa or back to Kiev then I don't think he would be pushing so hard. It would make sense to consolidate his forces and wait for better weather. That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election. See they voted for me. The war is turning around and the public agrees! Or he may even try calling an end to it. Would be funny if he tries to declare a ceasefire and Ukraine ignores him.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Sean

  764. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Yeah, Russia drafts minorities and the less prominent members of society (rural/provincial losers/marginals) and is thus able to reduce public backlash to its war in Ukraine. It's working relatively well so far, but the question is, can it actually continue indefinitely?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Yeah, Russia drafts minorities and the less prominent members of society (rural/provincial losers/marginals) and is thus able to reduce public backlash to its war in Ukraine.

    It seems that Russia has a rather large supply of Asian conscripts that will obey orders and rural Slavs that are recklessly drunk or borderline suicidal.

    Both British and Germans in past wars wrote about how they were surprised by how the Russian peasant seems content to die in a pointless battle for his Tsar, even if poorly equipped and forced to the front. Meaning they know the Tsar treats them like trash and they are fine with it. Both Germans and Finns in WW2 wrote about Russian meat waves that would charge at machine guns. The response to dead Russians was to send more Russians.

    I’ve read Finnish accounts where they only stopped mowing down Russians because they ran out of bullets or didn’t have any more piss to cool the machine gun. They couldn’t believe Russians would trudge close in deep snow. It just made them easy to shoot.

    And now a modern clip from the current war that shows what happens when you send out 2 week conscripts and don’t explain that RPGs have a back blast.
    https://funker530.com/video/russian-crushes-his-buddy-with-rpg-back-blast/

    It’s working relatively well so far, but the question is, can it actually continue indefinitely?

    It appears that Putin wants to take Avdiivka at any price. If he really wanted to go after Odessa or back to Kiev then I don’t think he would be pushing so hard. It would make sense to consolidate his forces and wait for better weather. That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election. See they voted for me. The war is turning around and the public agrees! Or he may even try calling an end to it. Would be funny if he tries to declare a ceasefire and Ukraine ignores him.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election.
     
    ??

    Perhaps both he and Uncle Cheato can be photographed together after Putler takes Adviivka, since both will be running for high office together this year. kremlinstoogeA123 would finally have something to really gloat about.

    https://static.bangkokpost.com/media/content/20230319/c1_2531555_700.jpeg

    The last known civilian trying to leave Adviivka alive. Somehow, I don't think that he's really interested in the political fates of either Putler or Trumpster?...

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Sean
    @John Johnson

    In addition to having much to small a total invasion force, Russia had too many extended axises of advance in the initial invasion; certainly more than it could sustain. What Russia seems to be doing now is going to the opposite extreme by mounting one single concentrated--although very slow--thrust at the centre of the Ukrainian eastern defences. And the number of Russians at the front line is growing all the time.

    Avdiivka is like Bakhmut, a city on the Ukrainian defence lines in Donbass that had been getting more and more fortified since 2015, and when the war started most of the Ukrainian army was defending those lines. The elite mobile units of the Ukrainian army are presents held behind them for counter attack, while the run of the mill Ukrainian formations are in the bunkers at the front getting blasted, which is prolly where those two actors were. Itwas when the FAB winged bombs began hammering the Ukrainian strongpoints that Bakhmut started to be lost. There have been 300 of those FAB bombs (some extremely large) used in Avdiivka., and Russia currently has a definite quantitive advantage in artillery fires.

    Judging by the fact that two Ukrainian actor (one of whom, Kukharskyi, was extremely well known*) that had joined the army at the beginning of the invasion have been mortally wounded in the last couple of months, so I think we can be skeptical of the David Axe theorem whereby the Russian plan to win the war is an endless lemming-like advance that will attrite the Ukrainians by incapacitating them with repetitive strain injury in their trigger finger.

    (*In December a name Russian actor was killed by a Ukrainian missile during a performance 40 miles behind the front line--apparently targeted in a Ukrainian act of vengeance for the demoralizing death of Kukharskyi who'd starred in a 2022 film about a comic book cossack).

  765. @QCIC
    @AP

    AP quoted:


    Anatol Lieven, from the West wrote about his experience in Zaporizhia: “...In Zaporizhia, hatred is directed at the Russian government and armed forces — especially of course the air force."
     
    Can someone link to drone footage showing the present state of destruction in the city of Zaporizhia? Is there an estimate of how many civilians still live there or the total number of civilian casualties in the city?

    Replies: @AP

    Lieven wrote that the city of Zaporizhia was mostly intact, with only a handful of buildings damaged. Here was one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Zaporizhzhia_residential_building_airstrike

    Lieven observed:

    “there are a limited number of attacks. In the ten days I spent in Zaporizhia, eleven missiles and drones were fired at the city. That seems like quite a lot, but Zaporizhia is a city of more than 700,000 people. Most fell so far away that I hardly heard them. At night I slept through them. And casualties were small: one person killed and about thirty wounded. This also reflects the great effectiveness of Ukrainian anti-missile fire, especially against drones, which though numerous are also very slow.”

    Also:

    “I saw clear evidence of the inaccuracy of Russian missiles — especially S-300 anti-aircraft missiles, which should not be used in a ground attack role for which they are not designed. For example, in Dnipro, the Russians clearly tried to hit the headquarters of the Ukrainian security service, missed, and instead demolished a row of shops opposite, only breaking the windows of the SBU building. ”

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ, QCIC
  766. @German_reader
    @Beckow


    But nobody in V4 was rushing to join Nato, why would we want to?
     
    Because not everybody in the V4 shared your positive view of the Soviet Union/Russia and lots of people wanted insurance that the Russian army wouldn't come back again? Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia all had to be kept with armed force in the Eastern bloc during the Cold War after all (yes, yes, I know, lots of local commies, and many people liked the system, it had its good sides too after all, but still, even you can't possibly deny the events of 1956 and 1968 and their lingering effect).
    Now personally I think this was all handled pretty disastrously, imo it would have been better to dissolve NATO after the end of the Cold War and replace it with some sort of European collective security system. And yes, there definitely was an agenda to box Russia in and prevent her re-emergence as a great power, it became blatantly obvious with those offers of NATO membership to Ukraine and Georgia, those moves were far from innocent or altruistic. But I still think you go too far with your justification of preventive war, there were other available choices on the Russian side too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LondonBob

    Studied this at university, alongside people from the region, joining the EU was popular, NATO wasn’t, it was imposed from above by the leadership who had been co-opted by the US.

  767. @Beckow
    @German_reader


    ...deny the events of 1956 and 1968 and their lingering effect
     
    You don't seem to understand what they were: 1956 in Hungary was basically a rebellion 10 years after the war by the side that lost the war and was justly occupied by the winner. Magyar nationalists were burning policemen on the street - look up the video, they are widely available. US wouldn't allow it in Italy or Germany, why would you think that Soviets would in Hungary?

    1968 in Czechoslovakia was a mild communist reform movement that got carried away by the zeitgeist of that time (I don't know, hippies?). Soviets were morons, misunderstood it and invaded to put an end to it - there was no fighting and almost nobody got killed (50 victims). It was stupid, but not about what you think - it was an internal commie dispute that Soviets mishandled. Very different from Hungary.

    I think we agree on the stupidity and pointlessness of the Nato expansion. I just think what is happening now are the inevitable consequences. You don't. But it's done, so what's the difference? It will be decided by the war. And the truth in retrospect will also be framed by what happens in the war. It is always like that.


    I still think you go too far with your justification of preventive war, there were other available choices on the Russian side too.
     
    Maybe you can finally tell us what were those choices....:)

    I don't justify anything - neither the Nato expansion nor the reaction. But you can't talk about B without addressing A that happened first - and it made the B, this bloody war, inevitable.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    1956 was like a pogrom, after that ethnic Hungarians were promoted and the regime became more mild.

  768. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    that once lived throughout Chicago, and that the gray is a sort of invader in much of city, facilitated by the leash laws. (Could this have been a factor in the spread of possums north?)

    Squirrels are master invaders. Most dogs can't catch them. They just have to find a tree to escape.

    The reason there are so many squirrels in America is that they lack predators. There are fewer owls and hawks in urban areas. Those are the best hunters of the squirrel. The squirrel can't just run up a tree and wait.

    Rats, squirrels and pigeons all have the same problem. Not enough predators and urbanites don't shoot them.

    Urban Whites think squirrels are cute but haven't seen video of them eating baby birds alive.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    Urban Whites think squirrels are cute but haven’t seen video of them eating baby birds alive.

    They’re not able to obtain their favorite bird already cleaned, seasoned and perfectly broiled, still only for $5. I’ve been thinking of picking up two the next time I go to Costco, one for me and one for my 3 cats. Fortunately, no squirrels live around here.

    Is it a chicken or a small turkey? A better life through better chemistry?

  769. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Yeah, Russia drafts minorities and the less prominent members of society (rural/provincial losers/marginals) and is thus able to reduce public backlash to its war in Ukraine.

    It seems that Russia has a rather large supply of Asian conscripts that will obey orders and rural Slavs that are recklessly drunk or borderline suicidal.

    Both British and Germans in past wars wrote about how they were surprised by how the Russian peasant seems content to die in a pointless battle for his Tsar, even if poorly equipped and forced to the front. Meaning they know the Tsar treats them like trash and they are fine with it. Both Germans and Finns in WW2 wrote about Russian meat waves that would charge at machine guns. The response to dead Russians was to send more Russians.

    I've read Finnish accounts where they only stopped mowing down Russians because they ran out of bullets or didn't have any more piss to cool the machine gun. They couldn't believe Russians would trudge close in deep snow. It just made them easy to shoot.

    And now a modern clip from the current war that shows what happens when you send out 2 week conscripts and don't explain that RPGs have a back blast.
    https://funker530.com/video/russian-crushes-his-buddy-with-rpg-back-blast/

    It’s working relatively well so far, but the question is, can it actually continue indefinitely?

    It appears that Putin wants to take Avdiivka at any price. If he really wanted to go after Odessa or back to Kiev then I don't think he would be pushing so hard. It would make sense to consolidate his forces and wait for better weather. That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election. See they voted for me. The war is turning around and the public agrees! Or he may even try calling an end to it. Would be funny if he tries to declare a ceasefire and Ukraine ignores him.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Sean

    That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election.

    ??

    Perhaps both he and Uncle Cheato can be photographed together after Putler takes Adviivka, since both will be running for high office together this year. kremlinstoogeA123 would finally have something to really gloat about.

    The last known civilian trying to leave Adviivka alive. Somehow, I don’t think that he’s really interested in the political fates of either Putler or Trumpster?…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack


    That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election.
     
    ??

    I think he wants to hold up any type of battlefield win even if it lacks strategic gain or was a pyrrhic victory. Avidiika isn't as worthless as Bakhmut but it is turning into a wasteland with the shells of vehicles and bones of Russians. They aren't even burying them.

    Putin is embarrassed by the war and knows full well that the Russian military has been humiliated.

    My guess is that he would be happy to take Avidiika and then raise his "mission accomplished banner" which State media of course won't question. They'll pretend that his goal the entire time was to take Eastern Ukraine. They won't question the narrative or point out how two occupied Oblasts overwhelmingly voted for Zelensky and weren't home to Russian separatists.

    Follows what we were talking about:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIim5QIGBEM

    Putin is still doing everything possible to avoid conscripts Slavs from St Petersburg/Moscow. They are definitely running into the dregs problem. I saw a captured conscript today that looked homeless and barely able to move. I suspect are trying to get rid of their ne'r do wells and reduce their minority populations. Ironically fascist as they still stick with this "removing da Nazis" script that no one actually buys. Prigozhin is on video saying it's a bunch of bullshit.
  770. @John Johnson
    @A123

    There are certainly zealous #NeverTrump extremists. Mikel springs immediately to mind. Is he a NeoCon for team McConnell/Bolton? No. He is with Trump & against Bolton.

    Did you see that your orange brah probably made up a $50 million dollar loan?
    https://news.yahoo.com/special-monitor-suggests-trump-falsified-071730176.html

    I knew Trump was a tax cheat when he dragged his feet on releasing his taxes.

    He clearly wasn't trying to run a clean business.

    Replies: @A123, @Mr. Hack

    I knew Trump was a tax cheat when he dragged his feet on releasing his taxes.

    He clearly wasn’t trying to run a clean business.

    Aw, c’mon JJ, you’re going to burst the “Trump can do no wrong” bubble that kremlinstoogeA123 inhabits. You do understand that his whole life revolves around Trump’s reelection? And maintaining the fiction that Putler is a saint that is the great defender of Christendom in the world today. He’s trying to lower his daily dependence on airplane glue, and any more such revelations as you’re posting here might derail his quest to lead a glue less (clueless?) existence. 🙂

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. Hack

    Aw, c’mon JJ, you’re going to burst the “Trump can do no wrong” bubble that kremlinstoogeA123 inhabits. You do understand that his whole life revolves around Trump’s reelection?

    Trump is bad but his followers are even worse.

    He was actually bragging about sabotaging the border deal. It would have ended the amnesty loophole and he is actually taking pride in pressuring MAGA Republicans to drop it for the sake of his political campaign. What a frigging asshole. The amnesty loophole is the main problem.

    His followers however will still put on their stupid red hats and cheer.

    And maintaining the fiction that Putler is a saint that is the great defender of Christendom in the world today. He’s trying to lower his daily dependence on airplane glue, and any more such revelations as you’re posting here might derail his quest to lead a glue less (clueless?) existence.

    Both Putin and Trump seem to tap into a desire for a strong male leader. Doesn't seem to matter what they do. Their followers are no different than Africans that rally around their "big man" even if he marches them to their deaths.

    I get that Western society is over-feminized but that doesn't mean we should rally around a mass murdering dwarf or a sleazeball tax cheat. Putin and Trump only pretend to be strong men. They're both terrified of having to sit down and simply explain themselves to a critical thinker. Putin seems additionally fearful of female journalists. As if a single misstep with one will drain all perception of masculinity. Both Putin and Trump are quite insecure for being billionaires.

  771. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election.
     
    ??

    Perhaps both he and Uncle Cheato can be photographed together after Putler takes Adviivka, since both will be running for high office together this year. kremlinstoogeA123 would finally have something to really gloat about.

    https://static.bangkokpost.com/media/content/20230319/c1_2531555_700.jpeg

    The last known civilian trying to leave Adviivka alive. Somehow, I don't think that he's really interested in the political fates of either Putler or Trumpster?...

    Replies: @John Johnson

    That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election.

    ??

    I think he wants to hold up any type of battlefield win even if it lacks strategic gain or was a pyrrhic victory. Avidiika isn’t as worthless as Bakhmut but it is turning into a wasteland with the shells of vehicles and bones of Russians. They aren’t even burying them.

    Putin is embarrassed by the war and knows full well that the Russian military has been humiliated.

    My guess is that he would be happy to take Avidiika and then raise his “mission accomplished banner” which State media of course won’t question. They’ll pretend that his goal the entire time was to take Eastern Ukraine. They won’t question the narrative or point out how two occupied Oblasts overwhelmingly voted for Zelensky and weren’t home to Russian separatists.

    Follows what we were talking about:

    Putin is still doing everything possible to avoid conscripts Slavs from St Petersburg/Moscow. They are definitely running into the dregs problem. I saw a captured conscript today that looked homeless and barely able to move. I suspect are trying to get rid of their ne’r do wells and reduce their minority populations. Ironically fascist as they still stick with this “removing da Nazis” script that no one actually buys. Prigozhin is on video saying it’s a bunch of bullshit.

  772. @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    I knew Trump was a tax cheat when he dragged his feet on releasing his taxes.

    He clearly wasn’t trying to run a clean business.
     

    Aw, c'mon JJ, you're going to burst the "Trump can do no wrong" bubble that kremlinstoogeA123 inhabits. You do understand that his whole life revolves around Trump's reelection? And maintaining the fiction that Putler is a saint that is the great defender of Christendom in the world today. He's trying to lower his daily dependence on airplane glue, and any more such revelations as you're posting here might derail his quest to lead a glue less (clueless?) existence. :-)

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Aw, c’mon JJ, you’re going to burst the “Trump can do no wrong” bubble that kremlinstoogeA123 inhabits. You do understand that his whole life revolves around Trump’s reelection?

    Trump is bad but his followers are even worse.

    He was actually bragging about sabotaging the border deal. It would have ended the amnesty loophole and he is actually taking pride in pressuring MAGA Republicans to drop it for the sake of his political campaign. What a frigging asshole. The amnesty loophole is the main problem.

    His followers however will still put on their stupid red hats and cheer.

    And maintaining the fiction that Putler is a saint that is the great defender of Christendom in the world today. He’s trying to lower his daily dependence on airplane glue, and any more such revelations as you’re posting here might derail his quest to lead a glue less (clueless?) existence.

    Both Putin and Trump seem to tap into a desire for a strong male leader. Doesn’t seem to matter what they do. Their followers are no different than Africans that rally around their “big man” even if he marches them to their deaths.

    I get that Western society is over-feminized but that doesn’t mean we should rally around a mass murdering dwarf or a sleazeball tax cheat. Putin and Trump only pretend to be strong men. They’re both terrified of having to sit down and simply explain themselves to a critical thinker. Putin seems additionally fearful of female journalists. As if a single misstep with one will drain all perception of masculinity. Both Putin and Trump are quite insecure for being billionaires.

  773. Recent news. Kiev clown keeps attempting to dismiss his potential competitor Zaluzhnyi, the Commander-in-Chief of Ukrainian armed forces since 27 July 2021. However, clown’s puppet masters do not want him to get rid of Zaluzhnyi. Hence “news” about his impending dismissal are interspersed with “news” that he is not and won’t be dismissed.

    Now clown’s gang changed tack: via Rada member from clown’s “party” Maryana Bezuhla it spread the “news” that Zaluzhnyi is an alcoholic. We’ll see whether this gets the clown what he desperately wants.

    The struggle for power in the snake pit between a cokehead and an alcoholic is amusing for the outside observers. It is not so amusing for their puppet masters, though.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Probably they are negotiating and the top military guy is holding out for a better offer. He doesn't want to settle for a golden parachute when with a little more patience he can get one made out of Element 115.

    The writer who invented the term golden parachute was obviously not a sky diver as such an object would be less than worthless.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Gerard1234
    @AnonfromTN

    I would probably say that Zaluzhniy is more of a puppet-commander- in-chief than Zelensky is a puppet-President, although its a close contest with these freaks.

    Lots of writings about Budanov as the replacement . He does appear to be a mixture of a cokehead and an alcoholic.......so maybe the "perfect" solution to the problem. In reality it would be a total (self)disgrace if this scumbag is appointed. Head of GUR actually gives him zero qualification to be head of the armed forces. The 2 roles are hardly even tangentially connected to make it presentable as a rapid promotion, and it should for the non-plankton if they're still there in the VSU be an insult is he is given the job. It would just be a very bizarre thing to do - even Zelensky as a clown was more qualified to be president than Budanov is to be the top military official.

    Budanov is nothing more that a clearly disturbed, PR creation by khokhols. As people have written, his appointment would be more a symbolic indication of how much Banderastan/west are switching more to terrorism and diversionary action strategy if he was appointed.

  774. The entire Rogan Pasulka highlights from the 2 hours:

    Unlike Elon Musk and Alex Jones and Graham Hancock, Diana Pasulka did not do any drugs on camera.

    Opportunity passed over:

    She said that the Stanford UFO symposium was an admission by the spooks that the phenomena cannot be understood by a small secret team and requires the participation of a large set diverse brain power.

    This part is true.

    This also was true in 1953. And in 1973. And in 1993. And in 2013.

    So what is going on now? Not that she knows anything about that but it would be interesting to hear her answer to this question, which Joe Rogan is too stupid or too cooperative with the spooks to even ask it.

    Other than these two points of emptiness there is no reason to listen to any of it.

  775. @AnonfromTN
    Recent news. Kiev clown keeps attempting to dismiss his potential competitor Zaluzhnyi, the Commander-in-Chief of Ukrainian armed forces since 27 July 2021. However, clown’s puppet masters do not want him to get rid of Zaluzhnyi. Hence “news” about his impending dismissal are interspersed with “news” that he is not and won’t be dismissed.

    Now clown’s gang changed tack: via Rada member from clown’s “party” Maryana Bezuhla it spread the “news” that Zaluzhnyi is an alcoholic. We’ll see whether this gets the clown what he desperately wants.

    The struggle for power in the snake pit between a cokehead and an alcoholic is amusing for the outside observers. It is not so amusing for their puppet masters, though.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Gerard1234

    Probably they are negotiating and the top military guy is holding out for a better offer. He doesn’t want to settle for a golden parachute when with a little more patience he can get one made out of Element 115.

    The writer who invented the term golden parachute was obviously not a sky diver as such an object would be less than worthless.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Probably they are negotiating and the top military guy is holding out for a better offer.
     
    If Zaluzhnyi has any brains, he won’t settle for any offer. As soon as he loses controls of Ukrainian military, clown’s gang will “suicide” him or eliminate him in some other way (car crash, plane crash, helicopter crash, mysterious illness, etc.). Ukraine is not for the faint-hearted. As Kolomoyskyi used to say, “only cowards repay their debts”.
  776. Why would anyone sane support the Senate, pro-amnesty bill? (1)

    The Details Coming from the “Bipartisan Border Deal”
    Highlight the Ridiculous Nature of the Senate Bill

    The expulsion powers in the new legislation are the same as the currently existing expulsion powers that are not enforced. And, if the illegal alien gets caught twice coming across, they have to wait a year for their third or next attempt.

    But wait, it gets better.

    The entire effort to “secure” the border, an exercise in actually just doing what they can already do but pretend they cannot, is only triggered if the total number of border crossers exceeds a certain threshold.

    […] If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week or 8,500 in a single day, the authority would be triggered automatically, with the Department of Homeland Security forced to turn away immigrants with limited exceptions.

    Even in the expressed justification they admit DHS would be “forced to turn away immigrants.” Or, put in non-pretending terms, they would be forced to do something they can already do – but choose not to. And they swear to do the thing then, that they can do now, but pretend they cannot do – or something.

    5,000 per day is almost 2 Million per year. This legislation would enable the continuing flood, not prevent it. Does anyone believe that the Veggie-In-Chief would actually activate this new power when it is the same as the existing one he is not using?

    Those who care about MAGA policy, such as myself, see that stopping this farce is necessary. Alas #NeverTrump zealots, such as backers of Nikki Haley, would go along with this SJW Globalist sham.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/28/the-details-coming-from-the-bipartisan-border-deal-highlight-the-ridiculous-nature-of-the-senate-bill/

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    Those who care about MAGA policy, such as myself, see that stopping this farce is necessary. Alas #NeverTrump zealots, such as backers of Nikki Haley, would go along with this SJW Globalist sham.

    The bill would drastically reduce the number of illegals and close the amnesty loophole which is how they are getting in. They declare amnesty and the border patrol can't toss them out. They get an amnesty court date and ignore it. All these illegals are trained to declare amnesty once they touch American ground.

    Why can't Trump support the bill and then come up with his own to further lock up the border?

    It's not even certain that he will become president. The NYC property juicing case was supposed to be easy and now it looks like he will not only be found guilty but they discovered tax fraud.

    such as backers of Nikki Haley, would go along with this SJW Globalist sham.

    Trump is supporting open borders globalists by undermining this bill.

    Those of us that want the border fixed are long tired of his antics.

    First he turned down a generous offer from Schumer while in office and now this.

    Now would be a good time to get off of Trump train.

    Replies: @Mikel

  777. More recent news. Widespread protests of German farmers blocking city streets with their tractors and piles of manure continue. Meanwhile French farmers joined the club: they blocked all main highways leading to Paris with their tractors and are busy covering them with manure. Europe is in deep shit, figuratively and literally.

    Meanwhile, IMF predicted that Russian economy is going to grow 2.6% in 2024, which is higher than Russian government prediction of 2.4% growth. All of this is a clear sign that sanctions are working and Russian economy is in tatters, right?

  778. @AnonfromTN
    Recent news. Kiev clown keeps attempting to dismiss his potential competitor Zaluzhnyi, the Commander-in-Chief of Ukrainian armed forces since 27 July 2021. However, clown’s puppet masters do not want him to get rid of Zaluzhnyi. Hence “news” about his impending dismissal are interspersed with “news” that he is not and won’t be dismissed.

    Now clown’s gang changed tack: via Rada member from clown’s “party” Maryana Bezuhla it spread the “news” that Zaluzhnyi is an alcoholic. We’ll see whether this gets the clown what he desperately wants.

    The struggle for power in the snake pit between a cokehead and an alcoholic is amusing for the outside observers. It is not so amusing for their puppet masters, though.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Gerard1234

    I would probably say that Zaluzhniy is more of a puppet-commander- in-chief than Zelensky is a puppet-President, although its a close contest with these freaks.

    Lots of writings about Budanov as the replacement . He does appear to be a mixture of a cokehead and an alcoholic…….so maybe the “perfect” solution to the problem. In reality it would be a total (self)disgrace if this scumbag is appointed. Head of GUR actually gives him zero qualification to be head of the armed forces. The 2 roles are hardly even tangentially connected to make it presentable as a rapid promotion, and it should for the non-plankton if they’re still there in the VSU be an insult is he is given the job. It would just be a very bizarre thing to do – even Zelensky as a clown was more qualified to be president than Budanov is to be the top military official.

    Budanov is nothing more that a clearly disturbed, PR creation by khokhols. As people have written, his appointment would be more a symbolic indication of how much Banderastan/west are switching more to terrorism and diversionary action strategy if he was appointed.

  779. “We don’t give a damn about the ‘feelings of the Japanese’ concerning the so-called ‘Northern Territories,’” Medvedev stated. He suggested that anyone who is unhappy with the situation should “end their life in a traditional Japanese way,” referring to the ‘seppuku’ form of ritualistic suicide originating with samurai warriors.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/591542-moscow-japan-kuril-islands/

    Medvedev obviously didn’t see Giovanni’s Island.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni’s_Island

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @songbird

    Medvedev is actually telling the Japanese to go kill themselves over the Kuril dispute?

    God what a loser.

    The Russian government is led by small and insecure men.

    It's just sad. These guys have a huge amount of power and they still bark like little dogs behind glass doors.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  780. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    Probably they are negotiating and the top military guy is holding out for a better offer. He doesn't want to settle for a golden parachute when with a little more patience he can get one made out of Element 115.

    The writer who invented the term golden parachute was obviously not a sky diver as such an object would be less than worthless.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Probably they are negotiating and the top military guy is holding out for a better offer.

    If Zaluzhnyi has any brains, he won’t settle for any offer. As soon as he loses controls of Ukrainian military, clown’s gang will “suicide” him or eliminate him in some other way (car crash, plane crash, helicopter crash, mysterious illness, etc.). Ukraine is not for the faint-hearted. As Kolomoyskyi used to say, “only cowards repay their debts”.

  781. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Yeah, Russia drafts minorities and the less prominent members of society (rural/provincial losers/marginals) and is thus able to reduce public backlash to its war in Ukraine.

    It seems that Russia has a rather large supply of Asian conscripts that will obey orders and rural Slavs that are recklessly drunk or borderline suicidal.

    Both British and Germans in past wars wrote about how they were surprised by how the Russian peasant seems content to die in a pointless battle for his Tsar, even if poorly equipped and forced to the front. Meaning they know the Tsar treats them like trash and they are fine with it. Both Germans and Finns in WW2 wrote about Russian meat waves that would charge at machine guns. The response to dead Russians was to send more Russians.

    I've read Finnish accounts where they only stopped mowing down Russians because they ran out of bullets or didn't have any more piss to cool the machine gun. They couldn't believe Russians would trudge close in deep snow. It just made them easy to shoot.

    And now a modern clip from the current war that shows what happens when you send out 2 week conscripts and don't explain that RPGs have a back blast.
    https://funker530.com/video/russian-crushes-his-buddy-with-rpg-back-blast/

    It’s working relatively well so far, but the question is, can it actually continue indefinitely?

    It appears that Putin wants to take Avdiivka at any price. If he really wanted to go after Odessa or back to Kiev then I don't think he would be pushing so hard. It would make sense to consolidate his forces and wait for better weather. That tells me he wants a symbolic win before the fake election. See they voted for me. The war is turning around and the public agrees! Or he may even try calling an end to it. Would be funny if he tries to declare a ceasefire and Ukraine ignores him.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Sean

    In addition to having much to small a total invasion force, Russia had too many extended axises of advance in the initial invasion; certainly more than it could sustain. What Russia seems to be doing now is going to the opposite extreme by mounting one single concentrated–although very slow–thrust at the centre of the Ukrainian eastern defences. And the number of Russians at the front line is growing all the time.

    Avdiivka is like Bakhmut, a city on the Ukrainian defence lines in Donbass that had been getting more and more fortified since 2015, and when the war started most of the Ukrainian army was defending those lines. The elite mobile units of the Ukrainian army are presents held behind them for counter attack, while the run of the mill Ukrainian formations are in the bunkers at the front getting blasted, which is prolly where those two actors were. Itwas when the FAB winged bombs began hammering the Ukrainian strongpoints that Bakhmut started to be lost. There have been 300 of those FAB bombs (some extremely large) used in Avdiivka., and Russia currently has a definite quantitive advantage in artillery fires.

    Judging by the fact that two Ukrainian actor (one of whom, Kukharskyi, was extremely well known*) that had joined the army at the beginning of the invasion have been mortally wounded in the last couple of months, so I think we can be skeptical of the David Axe theorem whereby the Russian plan to win the war is an endless lemming-like advance that will attrite the Ukrainians by incapacitating them with repetitive strain injury in their trigger finger.

    (*In December a name Russian actor was killed by a Ukrainian missile during a performance 40 miles behind the front line–apparently targeted in a Ukrainian act of vengeance for the demoralizing death of Kukharskyi who’d starred in a 2022 film about a comic book cossack).

  782. @A123
    Why would anyone sane support the Senate, pro-amnesty bill? (1)


    The Details Coming from the “Bipartisan Border Deal”
    Highlight the Ridiculous Nature of the Senate Bill


    The expulsion powers in the new legislation are the same as the currently existing expulsion powers that are not enforced. And, if the illegal alien gets caught twice coming across, they have to wait a year for their third or next attempt.

    But wait, it gets better.

    The entire effort to “secure” the border, an exercise in actually just doing what they can already do but pretend they cannot, is only triggered if the total number of border crossers exceeds a certain threshold.

    […] If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week or 8,500 in a single day, the authority would be triggered automatically, with the Department of Homeland Security forced to turn away immigrants with limited exceptions.
     
    Even in the expressed justification they admit DHS would be “forced to turn away immigrants.” Or, put in non-pretending terms, they would be forced to do something they can already do – but choose not to. And they swear to do the thing then, that they can do now, but pretend they cannot do – or something.
     
    5,000 per day is almost 2 Million per year. This legislation would enable the continuing flood, not prevent it. Does anyone believe that the Veggie-In-Chief would actually activate this new power when it is the same as the existing one he is not using?

    Those who care about MAGA policy, such as myself, see that stopping this farce is necessary. Alas #NeverTrump zealots, such as backers of Nikki Haley, would go along with this SJW Globalist sham.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/28/the-details-coming-from-the-bipartisan-border-deal-highlight-the-ridiculous-nature-of-the-senate-bill/

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Those who care about MAGA policy, such as myself, see that stopping this farce is necessary. Alas #NeverTrump zealots, such as backers of Nikki Haley, would go along with this SJW Globalist sham.

    The bill would drastically reduce the number of illegals and close the amnesty loophole which is how they are getting in. They declare amnesty and the border patrol can’t toss them out. They get an amnesty court date and ignore it. All these illegals are trained to declare amnesty once they touch American ground.

    Why can’t Trump support the bill and then come up with his own to further lock up the border?

    It’s not even certain that he will become president. The NYC property juicing case was supposed to be easy and now it looks like he will not only be found guilty but they discovered tax fraud.

    such as backers of Nikki Haley, would go along with this SJW Globalist sham.

    Trump is supporting open borders globalists by undermining this bill.

    Those of us that want the border fixed are long tired of his antics.

    First he turned down a generous offer from Schumer while in office and now this.

    Now would be a good time to get off of Trump train.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Those of us that want the border fixed are long tired of his antics.
     
    Those of you who want the border "fixed" by allowing 5,000 undocumented migrants to get in every day (1,800,000+ per year every year into the indefinite future) should probably get deported along with them. Not only are you changing the demographics of your country forever but you're also putting innocent American lives at serious risk. It's statistically impossible not to have criminals and murderers among the millions coming in from all corners of the 3rd World. Considering that most are military-age men, I'd be very surprised if some terrorists haven't slipped through too.

    Not only Trump but DeSantis, Johnson and all sane people in the Republican Party, including a majority in the House and Senate, are against that ridiculous proposal. I'd rather they would send the money to Ukraine and Israel without signing such a stupid surrender of the border than to commit both acts of perfidy at the same time.

    What illegals claim at the border is not amnesty, by the way, it's asylum. You don't even know what you're talking about, as usual. Amnesty is what your favorite candidate Haley would also surely support but it's an entirely different concept.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

  783. @songbird

    “We don’t give a damn about the ‘feelings of the Japanese’ concerning the so-called ‘Northern Territories,’” Medvedev stated. He suggested that anyone who is unhappy with the situation should “end their life in a traditional Japanese way,” referring to the ‘seppuku’ form of ritualistic suicide originating with samurai warriors.
     
    https://www.rt.com/russia/591542-moscow-japan-kuril-islands/

    Medvedev obviously didn't see Giovanni's Island.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni's_Island

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Medvedev is actually telling the Japanese to go kill themselves over the Kuril dispute?

    God what a loser.

    The Russian government is led by small and insecure men.

    It’s just sad. These guys have a huge amount of power and they still bark like little dogs behind glass doors.

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @John Johnson

    Japan wanted a rapprochement with Russia as a counterbalance against China. It would have been wise for Russia to consider that.

    Aleksandr Dugin ingratiating himself to the CCP is rather unseemly.

    https://p0.51img.ca/i/63063b77f32e3:original.jpeg

    This is written front and center on his Chinese wikipedia.


    他发表了成名著作《地缘政治的基础》

    對俄羅斯構成威脅的中國必須進行「領土解體、分裂以及政治和行政上的分治」、「盡最大可能被拆分」,俄羅斯要把西藏、新疆、內蒙古、中國東北作為安全帶,作為中國與俄羅斯間的緩衝區,而將這個安全帶納入俄羅斯的勢力範圍[13][14]。

    He published his famous book "The Foundations of Geopolitics"

    China, which posed a threat to Russia, had to be "territorially disintegrated, divided, and politically and administratively partitioned" and "split up to the greatest extent possible",

    and Russia had to use Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, and northeastern China as a safety zone, as a buffer zone between China and Russia, and to include this buffer zone in the Russian sphere of influence[13][14].

     

    Dugin also proposed Japan as Russia's ally against China

    https://p0.51img.ca/i/63063b7815044:original.jpeg

  784. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    I get the info from my relatives and friends who are right now in Russia and Ukraine, and from my personal experience during my regular visits to Russia
     
    The problem with your approach - in your case - is that you very often write complete nonsense about Ukraine. So are your contacts feeding you disinformation or are you just making things up?

    Here's a recent example, your nonsense is easily verifiable:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-238/#comment-6352459

    You wrote: "Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev."

    Reality:

    Since 1992, 19 metro stations were built in Kiev.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyiv_Metro_stations

    Here is one of them, which opened in 2012:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipodrom_(Kyiv_Metro)

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Ipodrom_station_%28Kiev_metro%29.JPG

    :::::::::::

    Pretty much anything you write about post-Soviet Ukraine is equally unrealistic and nonsensical.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234

    LMAO at this hilarious piece of socipathic idiocy from yourself. The sequence is explainable like this:

    1. AnonFromTN is a guy who knows Ukraine very well, knows the people, lived there
    2.AnonFromTN is a guy who knows Kiev and Kiev metro very well, taken journeys on it, knows the network
    3. You though are a heavily disturbed POS who doesn’t know Ukraine in anyway, know anything about the people and certainly haven’t lived or grown up there. Sure as f**k you have never done journey on Kiev metro ( or I should add Kievskaya metro station in Moscow)
    4. To make things even worse for you and your predetermined BS, the Kiev metro under inept leadership has had 2 disasters in the last 7 months. Big ones………and the whole existence and concept of Kiev Metro is the most Soviet thing there is. Even more Soviet than the hammer and sickle, LOL.
    5. To correct this imbalance where AnonfromTN’s comment have authority and yours zero – an insecure tramp as yourself comes up with this nonsense to “discredit” AnonFromTN, so to make your inept position and circumstances not look so tragicomic.

    You wrote: “Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev.”

    1.He clearly means Metro LINE you idiot – its a disgrace that not a single new metro line has been built in 404 since 1991
    2Even if he didn’t, it’s irrelevant because its extremely easy to interchange the 3 different stages of f**kups of Banderastan you idiot – 1991, 2004, 2014 – because all the same catastrophic failures and nothing happening can either be merged into one period of khokhol disaster in the memory….or interchanged. I do it all the time
    3. Mispeak are complete non-stories, I did it myself the other day (used vatnik!!!, when I intended to write gopnik…about this freak Zaluzhny)
    4.How many different things detailing catastrophic post-Sovet Ukraine can start with the sentence
    “Since 1991 Kiev or Ukraine has not built or achieved a single………………..”.
    Do you want me to go through that gigantic list?
    5.Different to you he can be trusted to be telling the truth……you can be “trusted” to have numerous spamtroll accounts and for (inept) disinformation

    Since 1992, 19 metro stations were built in Kiev.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyiv_Metro_stations

    Here is one of them, which opened in 2012:

    Most of those stations are SOVIET era projects you useless retard, LMAO. Designed and approved in Soviet era you dumbf**k. Most even started then ( Soviet investment in ukrop infrastructure was unnecessarily huge in the 1980s) . And ALL of them , including the rare post-soviet projects were still designed by the old Soviet design bureau!! The names of those designers ethnically, are from memory not so khokholised.

    So summary:

    1. ZERO new lines have been built since 1991- which perfectly shows Banderastan for the last 33 years
    2. A pitiful small number of stations have been built in Kiev metro for the last 33 years
    With that of course is a pitiful small length of track laid for the last 33 years- for a city of that large size, and would even be pitiful for a much smaller city.
    3.Of the newest stations, most of them I wouldn’t even call them much of a metro extension. There is no real activity that either the Kiev region is expanding towards Kiev city and so the metro expanding from these places joining together ( as exactly is happening in Moscow). Neither is there sense that despite the population increase, the metro is expanding inline with where people are living……some of these few new ones are like they are there for servicing the outside Kiev transport arrangements to the rest of the country ( similar to what some of the foreign metros are doing for the far from there “nearest” international airports, though its not like this for Kiev you idiot
    4. No new stations since Maidan itself is a very indicative thing ( and many Kiev people I know say MANY things about that)
    5. In Kazan we have a beautiful newish metro…….compare us in the last decade to Kiev?!!! ROFLMAO. Saint Petersburg, Moscow of course huge expansion of network, and the same for every other city around the world , even those much smaller than Kiev.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    AnoninTN: “ Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev.”

    1.He clearly means Metro LINE
     
    I think people say what they mean. He clearly wrote what he did. Not a single metro station since 1991.

    And he had more than one chance to make corrections if he misspoke. But he didn’t, instead a few days later you had to desperately come up with this funny excuse.

    In Kazan we have a beautiful newish metro

     

    With 11 stations, fewer than the number built in Kiev after 1991 when according to AnoninTN not a single one was built in Kiev.

    And you are in England, not Kazan anymore.

    No new stations since Maidan itself is a very indicative thing
     
    It took Ukraine a few years to recover from Maidan and now there is a war. And Kiev already has a lot of metro stations. So?

    Kazan has 1.3 million people and it has 11 metro stations, Kiev has around 3 million people and 52 metro stations.

    It seems that people in Kazan pay for more new metro stations in Moscow.
  785. @Beckow
    @QCIC

    I agree that's what they are doing, but it is harder than that. Even a few thousand die-hards dugged in a city can force a total urban destruction.

    One way to deal with it is to cut off the supplies - but if the Ukies have any brains the cities are full of weapons and ammunition. So we are in for some sh.tty times, Mariupol had only a few thousands die-hards and they forced the city to be mostly destroyed.

    The West wants Russia to get a destroyed country, they don't care what it does to the poor Ukies. The die-hards are of no interest, most won't make it out.

    Russia still seems to prefer a negotiated collapse - maybe the more normal Ukies taking care of the fanatics. But they may be misreading the dynamic and it won't happen. No matter what Ukraine will have millions fewer people and will be largely destroyed.

    It could had been quite a country: large, prosperous, getting rich...all they had to do is stay neutral and keep the crazies under control. Like Austria after 1955. But they were not smart enough for that.

    Replies: @Svidomyatheart

    Beckow you cheerleading Russian f*ggt

    I have a post for you from like 2 years ago that I saved…even after like 2 years I remembered, ill tryto get around posting what “Russian nationalists” want to do to your country once they consolidate control

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Svidomyatheart


    I have a post for you from like 2 years ago that I saved…even after like 2 years I remembered, ill tryto get around posting what “Russian nationalists” want to do to your country once they consolidate control
     
    He is not one of those who will be bothered by this - he is one of those who will run out to kiss the Russian tanks and throw flowers on them. Talking is not the method with such a case.

    Replies: @LatW

  786. Well…dont even know where to start…

    The most important thing is probably this…just as I suspected

    The Anglo race has announced total war against the Continental European.

    Yes this sounds schizo but let me repeat that. THE ANGLOS HAVE ANNOUCED TOTAL WAR AGAINST EUROPEANS

    Russians were the 20thcentury Communists…and now the Anglos are 21century Communists/Bolsheviks. Instead of class communism…its race communism now.(imho Marxism/Bolshevism was always race communism but obfuscated by various gobbleygook )

  787. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    that once lived throughout Chicago, and that the gray is a sort of invader in much of city, facilitated by the leash laws. (Could this have been a factor in the spread of possums north?)

    Squirrels are master invaders. Most dogs can't catch them. They just have to find a tree to escape.

    The reason there are so many squirrels in America is that they lack predators. There are fewer owls and hawks in urban areas. Those are the best hunters of the squirrel. The squirrel can't just run up a tree and wait.

    Rats, squirrels and pigeons all have the same problem. Not enough predators and urbanites don't shoot them.

    Urban Whites think squirrels are cute but haven't seen video of them eating baby birds alive.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @songbird

    Squirrels are master invaders.

    It’s amazing all the progress the gray made in the UK, despite probably expanding from fairly inbred pockets.

    People used to eat squirrels like they were candy bars for thousands of years.

    their favorite bird already cleaned, seasoned and perfectly broiled, still only for $5

    A squirrel trap would set you back only $12, and you could reuse it.

    Some say the meat tastes like a fusion between chicken and rabbit. Others that it is simultaneously musky and nutty.

    My aunt used to have a cat that quite liked the taste of the body, but would always leave the head on the stairs to make the mailman scream. Other creatures (cats?) I have known to disregard the tail and liver.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @songbird


    Squirrels are master invaders.
     
    It’s amazing all the progress the gray made in the UK, despite probably expanding from fairly inbred pockets.

    I've seen fat squirrels in parks turn down food. They were already fed earlier in the day.

    Old men really like to feed them. I've seen them dump an entire bag of seed.

    Must be annoying to see people feeding them in the UK. They're an invasive species and they have fewer predators in Britain.

    Some say the meat tastes like a fusion between chicken and rabbit. Others that it is simultaneously musky and nutty.

    Southern rednecks view them as a delicacy. Supposed to be good in stew:
    https://honest-food.net/squirrel-stew-recipe-paprika/

    Maybe we need some type of organic urban hunting trend where Trader Joe moms hunt down squirrels with pellet guns.

    Chicago has an urban band of rat hunters. Basically White guys with these high powered pellet guns. Some even have night scopes.

    But it is probably futile. A certain race seems to have a lot of problems with disposing of trash properly. Said race also tends to have the attitude of "tis the way of the ghetto" and won't go to Home Depot to stock up on traps and poison.

  788. @Svidomyatheart
    @Beckow

    Beckow you cheerleading Russian f*ggt

    I have a post for you from like 2 years ago that I saved...even after like 2 years I remembered, ill tryto get around posting what "Russian nationalists" want to do to your country once they consolidate control

    Replies: @LatW

    I have a post for you from like 2 years ago that I saved…even after like 2 years I remembered, ill tryto get around posting what “Russian nationalists” want to do to your country once they consolidate control

    He is not one of those who will be bothered by this – he is one of those who will run out to kiss the Russian tanks and throw flowers on them. Talking is not the method with such a case.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @LatW

    Although you should post what those Russian nationalists say about Slovakia et al, just for the context and to illuminate. :)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  789. @LatW
    @Svidomyatheart


    I have a post for you from like 2 years ago that I saved…even after like 2 years I remembered, ill tryto get around posting what “Russian nationalists” want to do to your country once they consolidate control
     
    He is not one of those who will be bothered by this - he is one of those who will run out to kiss the Russian tanks and throw flowers on them. Talking is not the method with such a case.

    Replies: @LatW

    Although you should post what those Russian nationalists say about Slovakia et al, just for the context and to illuminate. 🙂

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    Although you should post what those Russian nationalists say about Slovakia et al, just for the context and to illuminate.
     
    Shouldn’t s/he also post the data revealing what support Russian nationalists saying these things have in the RF? What are the chances of those mental cases ever getting into positions of power? That info would be certainly considered politically incorrect by rabid Russophobes, but it would really illuminate.

    Replies: @LatW

  790. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Those who care about MAGA policy, such as myself, see that stopping this farce is necessary. Alas #NeverTrump zealots, such as backers of Nikki Haley, would go along with this SJW Globalist sham.

    The bill would drastically reduce the number of illegals and close the amnesty loophole which is how they are getting in. They declare amnesty and the border patrol can't toss them out. They get an amnesty court date and ignore it. All these illegals are trained to declare amnesty once they touch American ground.

    Why can't Trump support the bill and then come up with his own to further lock up the border?

    It's not even certain that he will become president. The NYC property juicing case was supposed to be easy and now it looks like he will not only be found guilty but they discovered tax fraud.

    such as backers of Nikki Haley, would go along with this SJW Globalist sham.

    Trump is supporting open borders globalists by undermining this bill.

    Those of us that want the border fixed are long tired of his antics.

    First he turned down a generous offer from Schumer while in office and now this.

    Now would be a good time to get off of Trump train.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Those of us that want the border fixed are long tired of his antics.

    Those of you who want the border “fixed” by allowing 5,000 undocumented migrants to get in every day (1,800,000+ per year every year into the indefinite future) should probably get deported along with them. Not only are you changing the demographics of your country forever but you’re also putting innocent American lives at serious risk. It’s statistically impossible not to have criminals and murderers among the millions coming in from all corners of the 3rd World. Considering that most are military-age men, I’d be very surprised if some terrorists haven’t slipped through too.

    Not only Trump but DeSantis, Johnson and all sane people in the Republican Party, including a majority in the House and Senate, are against that ridiculous proposal. I’d rather they would send the money to Ukraine and Israel without signing such a stupid surrender of the border than to commit both acts of perfidy at the same time.

    What illegals claim at the border is not amnesty, by the way, it’s asylum. You don’t even know what you’re talking about, as usual. Amnesty is what your favorite candidate Haley would also surely support but it’s an entirely different concept.

    • Thanks: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel

    Illegals are carrying all sorts of diseases into America, including measles and polio. What could the White House occupant do under current law? (1)


    What is Title 42?

    Title 42 refers to a rarely used section of the U.S. Code that dates to 1944. The law empowers federal health authorities to prohibit migrants from entering the country if it is determined that doing so could prevent the spread of contagious diseases.

    The CDC invoked Title 42 at the beginning of the U.S. coronavirus outbreak in March 2020, giving Border Patrol agents the authority to swiftly expel migrants trying to enter the U.S. instead of allowing them to seek asylum within the country, as had long been the policy before the pandemic. Migrants expelled from the U.S. under Title 42 are returned to their home country or most recent transit country.
     

    Under the Trump administration, 80% or more of monthly migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border resulted in expulsion from the U.S. under Title 42. That percentage declined under Biden, who had pledged during his campaign for the White House to reverse some of Trump’s immigration policies.
     
    There was no reason to end Trump's "Stay in Mexico" plan, which was anchored in Title 42. It takes true #NeverTrump madness to demand ~2 Million potentially infected illegals per year be let into America.

    Not-The-President Biden does not need a new law. His corrupt administration needs to use the tools that currently exist.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/04/27/key-facts-about-title-42-the-pandemic-policy-that-has-reshaped-immigration-enforcement-at-u-s-mexico-border/

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @AP
    @Mikel

    An example of poor reading comprehension or something worse from you?


    Those of you who want the border “fixed” by allowing 5,000 undocumented migrants to get in every day (1,800,000+ per year every year into the indefinite future
     
    This is what it actually is, per A123’s post:

    If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week or 8,500 in a single day, the authority would be triggered automatically

    So 5,000 per day in a week would be 35,000 people. Or 8,500 in a single day would automatically trigger the authority. Not 1.8 million plus into the indefinite future as you wrongly stated. Really, I can see MAGAtards falling for that, but you?

    Now I suppose there are loopholes, like 4,000 crossings every day. But it’s not what you claimed. Recently 10,000 were crossing every day, so per this deal the authority would have been automatically triggered.

    So the MAGAtards in Congress, at Trump’s orders, won’t pass a deal that will automatically trigger the border closing authorization after 8,500 crossings in a single day or 5,000 per day after a week.

    How many 100,000s of people are going to pour in because Trump wants the mess to remain unsolved completely while Biden is in office?

    Replies: @A123

  791. Those of us that want the border fixed are long tired of his antics.

    Those of you who want the border “fixed” by allowing 5,000 undocumented migrants to get in every day (1,800,000+ per year every year into the indefinite future) should probably get deported along with them.

    Most Americans want the border fixed. That isn’t subjective and doesn’t require quotes.

    The current proposal doesn’t shut down the border nor does it completely fix it. No one has made that claim. It’s a compromise.

    It would however end the amnesty loophole and set a cap on crossings.

    If Trump cared about the border then he would support this bill and then push even more security if he takes office. That would be the rational response of someone that opposes an open border. Both accurately describe the exploit being used by illegals.

    Not only are you changing the demographics of your country forever but you’re also putting innocent American lives at serious risk.

    You seem to mistake me for dictator of the country and not a citizen. Do you not understand how a democracy works?

    I’m an American and most Americans support closing the Southern border. However the politicians ignore the majority opinion on immigration and that has been true since the 1960s. Republicans ignored the border when they had all three houses.

    Don’t speak to me as if I am personally responsible. A strong majority of Americans support stricter border policies:
    80% of Americans view border as a disaster
    https://news.yahoo.com/harvard-poll-80-see-border-123800465.html

    Trump was supposed to fix the border in the last election. Maybe you missed how he botched a deal from Schumer and never countered. Or maybe you also missed how he looked the other way as Bannon scammed MAGA fans for their cash.

    Schumer pulls back offer of $25 billion for Trump’s wall
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/schumer-pulls-back-offer-of-25-billion-for-trumps-wall-as-immigration-fight-continuse

    Mr. “art of the deal” already blew it in his first term.

    Maybe you missed this as well:
    Bannon sentenced over “build the wall” scam
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53853297

    [MORE]

    What illegals claim at the border is not amnesty, by the way, it’s asylum.

    Don’t play the semantics card. It’s weak.

    Amnesty means A pardon extended by the government to a group or class of people, usually for a political offense
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty

    They’re are a class of people that gets a pardon when they walk in. They meet the definition. Calling it an amnesty or asylum loophole doesn’t change anything.

    Amnesty is what your favorite candidate Haley would also surely support but it’s an entirely different concept.

    Haley supports the current deal while Trump does not.

    Why don’t you give a rational explanation for why Trump shouldn’t support this deal and then pass his own bill when president? Help the MAGA cult out because they can’t seem to provide an explanation.

    Oh and in case you missed the news it looks like Uncle Cheese will have a new charge of tax evasion pending. This is so sad and pathetic. He isn’t in office and it’s getting harder for his fans to defend him.

  792. @LatW
    @LatW

    Although you should post what those Russian nationalists say about Slovakia et al, just for the context and to illuminate. :)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Although you should post what those Russian nationalists say about Slovakia et al, just for the context and to illuminate.

    Shouldn’t s/he also post the data revealing what support Russian nationalists saying these things have in the RF? What are the chances of those mental cases ever getting into positions of power? That info would be certainly considered politically incorrect by rabid Russophobes, but it would really illuminate.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @AnonfromTN

    Just stick with Medvedev's daily rants - those are plenty illuminating. Granted, those are produced by alcoholic delirium, however, as the saying goes, one reveals the truth when they're drunk.

    The point is that the little Commie shithead talks a big talk while sitting cowardly behind the Carpathian mountains. While simultaneously being in denial about what Putin's ultimatum of December 2021 stated about Slovakia. Oh, wait, that's what he wants, too.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

  793. @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    Although you should post what those Russian nationalists say about Slovakia et al, just for the context and to illuminate.
     
    Shouldn’t s/he also post the data revealing what support Russian nationalists saying these things have in the RF? What are the chances of those mental cases ever getting into positions of power? That info would be certainly considered politically incorrect by rabid Russophobes, but it would really illuminate.

    Replies: @LatW

    Just stick with Medvedev’s daily rants – those are plenty illuminating. Granted, those are produced by alcoholic delirium, however, as the saying goes, one reveals the truth when they’re drunk.

    The point is that the little Commie shithead talks a big talk while sitting cowardly behind the Carpathian mountains. While simultaneously being in denial about what Putin’s ultimatum of December 2021 stated about Slovakia. Oh, wait, that’s what he wants, too.

    • LOL: John Johnson
    • Replies: @LatW
    @LatW

    Oh, and the one thing that the little Commie shithead forgets (or fails to admit) when he talks about the NATO membership, is that the Germans would have never put their money in a place that is not protected and where developed assets could eventually go back under Russian or some local oligarchy influence. What he doesn't get is that you can't have your cake and eat it, too. That's not how anything valuable in life works.

    , @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    Just stick with Medvedev’s daily rants
     
    Medvedev (for whom I only have contempt) is desperately trying to take Zhirinovsky’s niche. He senses (correctly) that the next Russian leader will be a lot more combative and anti-Western than Putin and thinks (incorrectly) that he has a chance to be that next leader.

    Replies: @LatW

  794. @songbird
    @John Johnson


    Squirrels are master invaders.

     

    It's amazing all the progress the gray made in the UK, despite probably expanding from fairly inbred pockets.

    People used to eat squirrels like they were candy bars for thousands of years.

    @Mr. Hack

    their favorite bird already cleaned, seasoned and perfectly broiled, still only for $5
     
    A squirrel trap would set you back only $12, and you could reuse it.

    Some say the meat tastes like a fusion between chicken and rabbit. Others that it is simultaneously musky and nutty.

    My aunt used to have a cat that quite liked the taste of the body, but would always leave the head on the stairs to make the mailman scream. Other creatures (cats?) I have known to disregard the tail and liver.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Squirrels are master invaders.

    It’s amazing all the progress the gray made in the UK, despite probably expanding from fairly inbred pockets.

    I’ve seen fat squirrels in parks turn down food. They were already fed earlier in the day.

    Old men really like to feed them. I’ve seen them dump an entire bag of seed.

    Must be annoying to see people feeding them in the UK. They’re an invasive species and they have fewer predators in Britain.

    Some say the meat tastes like a fusion between chicken and rabbit. Others that it is simultaneously musky and nutty.

    Southern rednecks view them as a delicacy. Supposed to be good in stew:
    https://honest-food.net/squirrel-stew-recipe-paprika/

    Maybe we need some type of organic urban hunting trend where Trader Joe moms hunt down squirrels with pellet guns.

    Chicago has an urban band of rat hunters. Basically White guys with these high powered pellet guns. Some even have night scopes.

    But it is probably futile. A certain race seems to have a lot of problems with disposing of trash properly. Said race also tends to have the attitude of “tis the way of the ghetto” and won’t go to Home Depot to stock up on traps and poison.

  795. @LatW
    @AnonfromTN

    Just stick with Medvedev's daily rants - those are plenty illuminating. Granted, those are produced by alcoholic delirium, however, as the saying goes, one reveals the truth when they're drunk.

    The point is that the little Commie shithead talks a big talk while sitting cowardly behind the Carpathian mountains. While simultaneously being in denial about what Putin's ultimatum of December 2021 stated about Slovakia. Oh, wait, that's what he wants, too.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    Oh, and the one thing that the little Commie shithead forgets (or fails to admit) when he talks about the NATO membership, is that the Germans would have never put their money in a place that is not protected and where developed assets could eventually go back under Russian or some local oligarchy influence. What he doesn’t get is that you can’t have your cake and eat it, too. That’s not how anything valuable in life works.

  796. @songbird
    @Sher Singh

    Are we sure they weren't both Indians?

    Replies: @Sher Singh

    Good point.

    Anyone else want to drop an email?

    Just sent something to barbarossa, yahya & yevardian.

    I honestly don’t care for the constant re-hashing of Communist history.

    MOVE THE FUCK ON BOOMERS!
    -==

    I need to go buy a new lat bar (need knurling)
    Also check out reverse squats – they’re great for hip flexors.

  797. ਅਕਾਲ

  798. @Gerard1234
    @AP

    LMAO at this hilarious piece of socipathic idiocy from yourself. The sequence is explainable like this:

    1. AnonFromTN is a guy who knows Ukraine very well, knows the people, lived there
    2.AnonFromTN is a guy who knows Kiev and Kiev metro very well, taken journeys on it, knows the network
    3. You though are a heavily disturbed POS who doesn't know Ukraine in anyway, know anything about the people and certainly haven't lived or grown up there. Sure as f**k you have never done journey on Kiev metro ( or I should add Kievskaya metro station in Moscow)
    4. To make things even worse for you and your predetermined BS, the Kiev metro under inept leadership has had 2 disasters in the last 7 months. Big ones.........and the whole existence and concept of Kiev Metro is the most Soviet thing there is. Even more Soviet than the hammer and sickle, LOL.
    5. To correct this imbalance where AnonfromTN's comment have authority and yours zero - an insecure tramp as yourself comes up with this nonsense to "discredit" AnonFromTN, so to make your inept position and circumstances not look so tragicomic.


    You wrote: “Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev.”
     
    1.He clearly means Metro LINE you idiot - its a disgrace that not a single new metro line has been built in 404 since 1991
    2Even if he didn't, it's irrelevant because its extremely easy to interchange the 3 different stages of f**kups of Banderastan you idiot - 1991, 2004, 2014 - because all the same catastrophic failures and nothing happening can either be merged into one period of khokhol disaster in the memory....or interchanged. I do it all the time
    3. Mispeak are complete non-stories, I did it myself the other day (used vatnik!!!, when I intended to write gopnik...about this freak Zaluzhny)
    4.How many different things detailing catastrophic post-Sovet Ukraine can start with the sentence
    "Since 1991 Kiev or Ukraine has not built or achieved a single....................".
    Do you want me to go through that gigantic list?
    5.Different to you he can be trusted to be telling the truth......you can be "trusted" to have numerous spamtroll accounts and for (inept) disinformation

    Since 1992, 19 metro stations were built in Kiev.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kyiv_Metro_stations

    Here is one of them, which opened in 2012:
     
    Most of those stations are SOVIET era projects you useless retard, LMAO. Designed and approved in Soviet era you dumbf**k. Most even started then ( Soviet investment in ukrop infrastructure was unnecessarily huge in the 1980s) . And ALL of them , including the rare post-soviet projects were still designed by the old Soviet design bureau!! The names of those designers ethnically, are from memory not so khokholised.

    So summary:

    1. ZERO new lines have been built since 1991- which perfectly shows Banderastan for the last 33 years
    2. A pitiful small number of stations have been built in Kiev metro for the last 33 years
    With that of course is a pitiful small length of track laid for the last 33 years- for a city of that large size, and would even be pitiful for a much smaller city.
    3.Of the newest stations, most of them I wouldn't even call them much of a metro extension. There is no real activity that either the Kiev region is expanding towards Kiev city and so the metro expanding from these places joining together ( as exactly is happening in Moscow). Neither is there sense that despite the population increase, the metro is expanding inline with where people are living......some of these few new ones are like they are there for servicing the outside Kiev transport arrangements to the rest of the country ( similar to what some of the foreign metros are doing for the far from there "nearest" international airports, though its not like this for Kiev you idiot
    4. No new stations since Maidan itself is a very indicative thing ( and many Kiev people I know say MANY things about that)
    5. In Kazan we have a beautiful newish metro.......compare us in the last decade to Kiev?!!! ROFLMAO. Saint Petersburg, Moscow of course huge expansion of network, and the same for every other city around the world , even those much smaller than Kiev.

    Replies: @AP

    AnoninTN: “ Since 1991 not a single metro station was built in Kiev.”

    1.He clearly means Metro LINE

    I think people say what they mean. He clearly wrote what he did. Not a single metro station since 1991.

    And he had more than one chance to make corrections if he misspoke. But he didn’t, instead a few days later you had to desperately come up with this funny excuse.

    In Kazan we have a beautiful newish metro

    With 11 stations, fewer than the number built in Kiev after 1991 when according to AnoninTN not a single one was built in Kiev.

    And you are in England, not Kazan anymore.

    No new stations since Maidan itself is a very indicative thing

    It took Ukraine a few years to recover from Maidan and now there is a war. And Kiev already has a lot of metro stations. So?

    Kazan has 1.3 million people and it has 11 metro stations, Kiev has around 3 million people and 52 metro stations.

    It seems that people in Kazan pay for more new metro stations in Moscow.

  799. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Those of us that want the border fixed are long tired of his antics.
     
    Those of you who want the border "fixed" by allowing 5,000 undocumented migrants to get in every day (1,800,000+ per year every year into the indefinite future) should probably get deported along with them. Not only are you changing the demographics of your country forever but you're also putting innocent American lives at serious risk. It's statistically impossible not to have criminals and murderers among the millions coming in from all corners of the 3rd World. Considering that most are military-age men, I'd be very surprised if some terrorists haven't slipped through too.

    Not only Trump but DeSantis, Johnson and all sane people in the Republican Party, including a majority in the House and Senate, are against that ridiculous proposal. I'd rather they would send the money to Ukraine and Israel without signing such a stupid surrender of the border than to commit both acts of perfidy at the same time.

    What illegals claim at the border is not amnesty, by the way, it's asylum. You don't even know what you're talking about, as usual. Amnesty is what your favorite candidate Haley would also surely support but it's an entirely different concept.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    Illegals are carrying all sorts of diseases into America, including measles and polio. What could the White House occupant do under current law? (1)

    What is Title 42?

    Title 42 refers to a rarely used section of the U.S. Code that dates to 1944. The law empowers federal health authorities to prohibit migrants from entering the country if it is determined that doing so could prevent the spread of contagious diseases.

    The CDC invoked Title 42 at the beginning of the U.S. coronavirus outbreak in March 2020, giving Border Patrol agents the authority to swiftly expel migrants trying to enter the U.S. instead of allowing them to seek asylum within the country, as had long been the policy before the pandemic. Migrants expelled from the U.S. under Title 42 are returned to their home country or most recent transit country.

    Under the Trump administration, 80% or more of monthly migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border resulted in expulsion from the U.S. under Title 42. That percentage declined under Biden, who had pledged during his campaign for the White House to reverse some of Trump’s immigration policies.

    There was no reason to end Trump’s “Stay in Mexico” plan, which was anchored in Title 42. It takes true #NeverTrump madness to demand ~2 Million potentially infected illegals per year be let into America.

    Not-The-President Biden does not need a new law. His corrupt administration needs to use the tools that currently exist.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/04/27/key-facts-about-title-42-the-pandemic-policy-that-has-reshaped-immigration-enforcement-at-u-s-mexico-border/

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    There was no reason to end Trump’s “Stay in Mexico” plan, which was anchored in Title 42. It takes true #NeverTrump madness to demand ~2 Million potentially infected illegals per year be let into America.

    Not-The-President Biden does not need a new law. His corrupt administration needs to use the tools that currently exist.

    They need a new law because there was never a law passed by Trump and it only covers the border. It was a policy enacted by Trump which means someone like Biden can change it.

    If no law is needed then why don't you explain what would stop someone from sneaking in and then claiming asylum and that they came in by boat. Then they get the court date and ignore it which is the status quo and the main problem.

    The illegals know they just need to get on American ground. Not just Mexicans but people from all over the world. There are currently Africans on the Southern border.

  800. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Those of us that want the border fixed are long tired of his antics.
     
    Those of you who want the border "fixed" by allowing 5,000 undocumented migrants to get in every day (1,800,000+ per year every year into the indefinite future) should probably get deported along with them. Not only are you changing the demographics of your country forever but you're also putting innocent American lives at serious risk. It's statistically impossible not to have criminals and murderers among the millions coming in from all corners of the 3rd World. Considering that most are military-age men, I'd be very surprised if some terrorists haven't slipped through too.

    Not only Trump but DeSantis, Johnson and all sane people in the Republican Party, including a majority in the House and Senate, are against that ridiculous proposal. I'd rather they would send the money to Ukraine and Israel without signing such a stupid surrender of the border than to commit both acts of perfidy at the same time.

    What illegals claim at the border is not amnesty, by the way, it's asylum. You don't even know what you're talking about, as usual. Amnesty is what your favorite candidate Haley would also surely support but it's an entirely different concept.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    An example of poor reading comprehension or something worse from you?

    Those of you who want the border “fixed” by allowing 5,000 undocumented migrants to get in every day (1,800,000+ per year every year into the indefinite future

    This is what it actually is, per A123’s post:

    If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week or 8,500 in a single day, the authority would be triggered automatically

    So 5,000 per day in a week would be 35,000 people. Or 8,500 in a single day would automatically trigger the authority. Not 1.8 million plus into the indefinite future as you wrongly stated. Really, I can see MAGAtards falling for that, but you?

    Now I suppose there are loopholes, like 4,000 crossings every day. But it’s not what you claimed. Recently 10,000 were crossing every day, so per this deal the authority would have been automatically triggered.

    So the MAGAtards in Congress, at Trump’s orders, won’t pass a deal that will automatically trigger the border closing authorization after 8,500 crossings in a single day or 5,000 per day after a week.

    How many 100,000s of people are going to pour in because Trump wants the mess to remain unsolved completely while Biden is in office?

    • Replies: @A123
    @AP

    The math is really easy.

    5,000 per day
    x 365 days per year
    ___________________
    1,825,000 per year

    That is the rate where the fake President could, in theory, start throttling the flow. Of course, he is not currently using the law under Title 42. There is every reason to believe that he would not act on this new Title either. At best, it is a smoke screen to do nothing. At worst, Mitch McConnell buried things in the small print that have yet to see the light of day.

    Smart people realize that swearing in a MAGA President who will reinstate Title 42 "Stay in Mexico" is a huge, easy, fast step forwards. It does nor require a new law. It only needs an Executive winning to buck special interest lobbyists.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

  801. Interesting comment on Twitter, repeated by colonel_cassad:
    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/111255
    Translation for those who don’t read Russian:
    I have a strong feeling that our country was fed for so long with vulgarity, meanness, and treason that it puked. All those who left are just vomit. Now the society will get healthier and stronger. We only need to ventilate to get this smell out.

  802. @A123
    @Mikel

    Illegals are carrying all sorts of diseases into America, including measles and polio. What could the White House occupant do under current law? (1)


    What is Title 42?

    Title 42 refers to a rarely used section of the U.S. Code that dates to 1944. The law empowers federal health authorities to prohibit migrants from entering the country if it is determined that doing so could prevent the spread of contagious diseases.

    The CDC invoked Title 42 at the beginning of the U.S. coronavirus outbreak in March 2020, giving Border Patrol agents the authority to swiftly expel migrants trying to enter the U.S. instead of allowing them to seek asylum within the country, as had long been the policy before the pandemic. Migrants expelled from the U.S. under Title 42 are returned to their home country or most recent transit country.
     

    Under the Trump administration, 80% or more of monthly migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border resulted in expulsion from the U.S. under Title 42. That percentage declined under Biden, who had pledged during his campaign for the White House to reverse some of Trump’s immigration policies.
     
    There was no reason to end Trump's "Stay in Mexico" plan, which was anchored in Title 42. It takes true #NeverTrump madness to demand ~2 Million potentially infected illegals per year be let into America.

    Not-The-President Biden does not need a new law. His corrupt administration needs to use the tools that currently exist.

    #LetsGoBrandon 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/04/27/key-facts-about-title-42-the-pandemic-policy-that-has-reshaped-immigration-enforcement-at-u-s-mexico-border/

    Replies: @John Johnson

    There was no reason to end Trump’s “Stay in Mexico” plan, which was anchored in Title 42. It takes true #NeverTrump madness to demand ~2 Million potentially infected illegals per year be let into America.

    Not-The-President Biden does not need a new law. His corrupt administration needs to use the tools that currently exist.

    They need a new law because there was never a law passed by Trump and it only covers the border. It was a policy enacted by Trump which means someone like Biden can change it.

    If no law is needed then why don’t you explain what would stop someone from sneaking in and then claiming asylum and that they came in by boat. Then they get the court date and ignore it which is the status quo and the main problem.

    The illegals know they just need to get on American ground. Not just Mexicans but people from all over the world. There are currently Africans on the Southern border.

  803. @LatW
    @AnonfromTN

    Just stick with Medvedev's daily rants - those are plenty illuminating. Granted, those are produced by alcoholic delirium, however, as the saying goes, one reveals the truth when they're drunk.

    The point is that the little Commie shithead talks a big talk while sitting cowardly behind the Carpathian mountains. While simultaneously being in denial about what Putin's ultimatum of December 2021 stated about Slovakia. Oh, wait, that's what he wants, too.

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    Just stick with Medvedev’s daily rants

    Medvedev (for whom I only have contempt) is desperately trying to take Zhirinovsky’s niche. He senses (correctly) that the next Russian leader will be a lot more combative and anti-Western than Putin and thinks (incorrectly) that he has a chance to be that next leader.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @AnonfromTN


    He senses (correctly) that the next Russian leader will be a lot more combative and anti-Western than Putin and thinks (incorrectly) that he has a chance to be that next leader.
     
    Yea, by that point a whole talent pool of interesting contenders should open up (a large country like RusFed should be able to offer up a few more, even despite the gerontocracy, same goes for the US, btw), it would be boring if everything was just decided by the FSB, without some exciting competition. Many are tired of the old faces.
  804. @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    Just stick with Medvedev’s daily rants
     
    Medvedev (for whom I only have contempt) is desperately trying to take Zhirinovsky’s niche. He senses (correctly) that the next Russian leader will be a lot more combative and anti-Western than Putin and thinks (incorrectly) that he has a chance to be that next leader.

    Replies: @LatW

    He senses (correctly) that the next Russian leader will be a lot more combative and anti-Western than Putin and thinks (incorrectly) that he has a chance to be that next leader.

    Yea, by that point a whole talent pool of interesting contenders should open up (a large country like RusFed should be able to offer up a few more, even despite the gerontocracy, same goes for the US, btw), it would be boring if everything was just decided by the FSB, without some exciting competition. Many are tired of the old faces.

  805. @AP
    @Mikel

    An example of poor reading comprehension or something worse from you?


    Those of you who want the border “fixed” by allowing 5,000 undocumented migrants to get in every day (1,800,000+ per year every year into the indefinite future
     
    This is what it actually is, per A123’s post:

    If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week or 8,500 in a single day, the authority would be triggered automatically

    So 5,000 per day in a week would be 35,000 people. Or 8,500 in a single day would automatically trigger the authority. Not 1.8 million plus into the indefinite future as you wrongly stated. Really, I can see MAGAtards falling for that, but you?

    Now I suppose there are loopholes, like 4,000 crossings every day. But it’s not what you claimed. Recently 10,000 were crossing every day, so per this deal the authority would have been automatically triggered.

    So the MAGAtards in Congress, at Trump’s orders, won’t pass a deal that will automatically trigger the border closing authorization after 8,500 crossings in a single day or 5,000 per day after a week.

    How many 100,000s of people are going to pour in because Trump wants the mess to remain unsolved completely while Biden is in office?

    Replies: @A123

    The math is really easy.

    5,000 per day
    x 365 days per year
    ___________________
    1,825,000 per year

    That is the rate where the fake President could, in theory, start throttling the flow. Of course, he is not currently using the law under Title 42. There is every reason to believe that he would not act on this new Title either. At best, it is a smoke screen to do nothing. At worst, Mitch McConnell buried things in the small print that have yet to see the light of day.

    Smart people realize that swearing in a MAGA President who will reinstate Title 42 “Stay in Mexico” is a huge, easy, fast step forwards. It does nor require a new law. It only needs an Executive winning to buck special interest lobbyists.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AP
    @A123


    The math is really easy.

    5,000 per day
    x 365 days per year
    ___________________
    1,825,000 per year
     
    You (deliberately?) cut out the last part of the phrase. I even bolded it!

    “If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week

    5,000 per day
    X 7 days in a week
    _________________

    35,000 in the week and the authorization is automatically triggered

    Or if it hits 8,500 in a single day.

    Your ilk want to keep it wide open so America is in chaos before the election. They put Trump’s election above the best interests of the USA.

    Replies: @A123

  806. The math is really easy.

    1,825,000 per year

    At least 2.5 million crossed in 2023:
    https://www.npr.org/2023/12/22/1221006083/immigration-border-election-presidential

    So do explain why Trump is right to support more crossings over less.

    Why can’t he support this bill and then further lock down the border as president?

    Wouldn’t that be the pro-border position?

    Smart people realize that swearing in a MAGA President who will reinstate Title 42 “Stay in Mexico” is a huge, easy, fast step forwards. It does nor require a new law.

    Why would we not want a new law if the president can just flip a switch?

    Shouldn’t such a law be through Congress and not an executive order that can be overturned at the whim of the president?

  807. @A123
    @AP

    The math is really easy.

    5,000 per day
    x 365 days per year
    ___________________
    1,825,000 per year

    That is the rate where the fake President could, in theory, start throttling the flow. Of course, he is not currently using the law under Title 42. There is every reason to believe that he would not act on this new Title either. At best, it is a smoke screen to do nothing. At worst, Mitch McConnell buried things in the small print that have yet to see the light of day.

    Smart people realize that swearing in a MAGA President who will reinstate Title 42 "Stay in Mexico" is a huge, easy, fast step forwards. It does nor require a new law. It only needs an Executive winning to buck special interest lobbyists.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

    The math is really easy.

    5,000 per day
    x 365 days per year
    ___________________
    1,825,000 per year

    You (deliberately?) cut out the last part of the phrase. I even bolded it!

    “If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week

    5,000 per day
    X 7 days in a week
    _________________

    35,000 in the week and the authorization is automatically triggered

    Or if it hits 8,500 in a single day.

    Your ilk want to keep it wide open so America is in chaos before the election. They put Trump’s election above the best interests of the USA.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AP


    You (deliberately?) cut out the last part of the phrase. I even bolded it!
    “If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week“
    5,000 per day
    X 7 days in a week

     
    Nothing malicious about it. If you insist on the intermediate step the result is the same.

    5,000 per day
    x 7 days per week
    x 52.2 weeks per year
    ___________________
    1,827,000 per year

    The math remains simple.


    the authorization is automatically triggered
     
    What would be the result if "the authorization" was "triggered"? Would the rate go to 0/day for the next 365 days? Nope.

    5,000/day would become the standard, yielding over 1.8 million potentially diseased illegal entries per year. Why are you vociferously campaigning for that? It makes no sense unless you want a plague.

    Even if you do not like Trump, you should back MAGA and Mike Johnson: (1)


    Speaker Johnson Rejects Pending Border Deal: Illegal Crossings "Must Be Zero"

     

    House Speaker Mike Johnson was quick to spot the change in language. “Finally. It took three years for President Biden to admit there is a crisis at the southern border,” he told RealClearPolitics in a statement, before adding, “It’s not just a crisis, it’s a catastrophe.”

    “Still, the president claims he has no executive authority to fix the disaster he has created,” the speaker continued. “That is demonstrably untrue. He can and should act immediately.”

    House Republicans appreciate the change in rhetoric.

    And as Jackson Richman reports via The Epoch Times, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has made clear where House Republicans will draw the line on any agreement dealing with the border: allowing illegal crossings.

    “Any border ’shutdown' authority that ALLOWS even one illegal crossing is a non-starter. Thousands each day is outrageous. The number must be ZERO,” Mr. Johnson wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Jan. 29.

     

    The way to stop illegal immigration of disease carriers is to stop them... Existing law, Title 42, explicitly allows this.

    Letting ~2 Million/year pestilent illegals enter the country is a proven public health disaster.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/speaker-johnson-rejects-pending-border-deal-illegal-crossings-must-be-zero

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

  808. @AP
    @A123


    The math is really easy.

    5,000 per day
    x 365 days per year
    ___________________
    1,825,000 per year
     
    You (deliberately?) cut out the last part of the phrase. I even bolded it!

    “If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week

    5,000 per day
    X 7 days in a week
    _________________

    35,000 in the week and the authorization is automatically triggered

    Or if it hits 8,500 in a single day.

    Your ilk want to keep it wide open so America is in chaos before the election. They put Trump’s election above the best interests of the USA.

    Replies: @A123

    You (deliberately?) cut out the last part of the phrase. I even bolded it!
    “If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week“
    5,000 per day
    X 7 days in a week

    Nothing malicious about it. If you insist on the intermediate step the result is the same.

    5,000 per day
    x 7 days per week
    x 52.2 weeks per year
    ___________________
    1,827,000 per year

    The math remains simple.

    the authorization is automatically triggered

    What would be the result if “the authorization” was “triggered”? Would the rate go to 0/day for the next 365 days? Nope.

    5,000/day would become the standard, yielding over 1.8 million potentially diseased illegal entries per year. Why are you vociferously campaigning for that? It makes no sense unless you want a plague.

    Even if you do not like Trump, you should back MAGA and Mike Johnson: (1)

    Speaker Johnson Rejects Pending Border Deal: Illegal Crossings “Must Be Zero”

    House Speaker Mike Johnson was quick to spot the change in language. “Finally. It took three years for President Biden to admit there is a crisis at the southern border,” he told RealClearPolitics in a statement, before adding, “It’s not just a crisis, it’s a catastrophe.”

    “Still, the president claims he has no executive authority to fix the disaster he has created,” the speaker continued. “That is demonstrably untrue. He can and should act immediately.”

    House Republicans appreciate the change in rhetoric.

    And as Jackson Richman reports via The Epoch Times, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has made clear where House Republicans will draw the line on any agreement dealing with the border: allowing illegal crossings.

    “Any border ’shutdown’ authority that ALLOWS even one illegal crossing is a non-starter. Thousands each day is outrageous. The number must be ZERO,” Mr. Johnson wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Jan. 29.

    The way to stop illegal immigration of disease carriers is to stop them… Existing law, Title 42, explicitly allows this.

    Letting ~2 Million/year pestilent illegals enter the country is a proven public health disaster.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/speaker-johnson-rejects-pending-border-deal-illegal-crossings-must-be-zero

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @A123

    This discussion feels unreal. Not only because you are for once the sane voice in a debate but because I can't even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue. Are we reaching peak decay in this blog?

    A couple of RINOs who must not have any fears of not being reelected have negotiated a border "deal" where Biden would not be required to do anything if 4,999 illegals cross the border every day. As DeSantis said, the only acceptable amount of illegal crossings is zero. That is what the law says and what he's supposed to enforce. 7 years after the MAGA victory, why any Republican would agree to anything more than zero undocumented entries in the US is beyond my comprehension.

    It must be the association of the border with Ukraine what must be clouding the minds of these commenters. I can understand why they would both gladly accept 1,800,000 illegals every year in exchange for funding the war in Ukraine but that doesn't explain losing the ability to do basic math or distinguish totally different concepts like asylum and amnesty. A total mystery.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    , @AP
    @A123


    If you insist on the intermediate step the result is the same.

    5,000 per day
    x 7 days per week
    x 52.2 weeks per year
    ___________________
    1,827,000 per year

    The math remains simple.
     
    This is a hypothetical worst case scenario that did not exist in December, when the average crossing were over 9,000 a day, meaning that the border would have been closed immediately.

    But even this worst case scenario would have been fewer people than crossed in 2023 - 2.5 million.

    That is about 700,000 fewer people would have crossed illegally had this far from perfect compromise deal been in effect.

    I'd rather pass this than pass nothing, and pass something better later on.

    You'd rather pass nothing and have unlimited immigration in the hope that the chaos will help Trump get elected. Though you also insist that he will get elected anyways no matter what, in which case we will have, as a result of the refusal to have this deal, an additional 100,000s of illegals prior to his taking office that would not have been here if not for people like you.
  809. @A123
    @AP


    You (deliberately?) cut out the last part of the phrase. I even bolded it!
    “If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week“
    5,000 per day
    X 7 days in a week

     
    Nothing malicious about it. If you insist on the intermediate step the result is the same.

    5,000 per day
    x 7 days per week
    x 52.2 weeks per year
    ___________________
    1,827,000 per year

    The math remains simple.


    the authorization is automatically triggered
     
    What would be the result if "the authorization" was "triggered"? Would the rate go to 0/day for the next 365 days? Nope.

    5,000/day would become the standard, yielding over 1.8 million potentially diseased illegal entries per year. Why are you vociferously campaigning for that? It makes no sense unless you want a plague.

    Even if you do not like Trump, you should back MAGA and Mike Johnson: (1)


    Speaker Johnson Rejects Pending Border Deal: Illegal Crossings "Must Be Zero"

     

    House Speaker Mike Johnson was quick to spot the change in language. “Finally. It took three years for President Biden to admit there is a crisis at the southern border,” he told RealClearPolitics in a statement, before adding, “It’s not just a crisis, it’s a catastrophe.”

    “Still, the president claims he has no executive authority to fix the disaster he has created,” the speaker continued. “That is demonstrably untrue. He can and should act immediately.”

    House Republicans appreciate the change in rhetoric.

    And as Jackson Richman reports via The Epoch Times, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has made clear where House Republicans will draw the line on any agreement dealing with the border: allowing illegal crossings.

    “Any border ’shutdown' authority that ALLOWS even one illegal crossing is a non-starter. Thousands each day is outrageous. The number must be ZERO,” Mr. Johnson wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Jan. 29.

     

    The way to stop illegal immigration of disease carriers is to stop them... Existing law, Title 42, explicitly allows this.

    Letting ~2 Million/year pestilent illegals enter the country is a proven public health disaster.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/speaker-johnson-rejects-pending-border-deal-illegal-crossings-must-be-zero

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

    This discussion feels unreal. Not only because you are for once the sane voice in a debate but because I can’t even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue. Are we reaching peak decay in this blog?

    A couple of RINOs who must not have any fears of not being reelected have negotiated a border “deal” where Biden would not be required to do anything if 4,999 illegals cross the border every day. As DeSantis said, the only acceptable amount of illegal crossings is zero. That is what the law says and what he’s supposed to enforce. 7 years after the MAGA victory, why any Republican would agree to anything more than zero undocumented entries in the US is beyond my comprehension.

    It must be the association of the border with Ukraine what must be clouding the minds of these commenters. I can understand why they would both gladly accept 1,800,000 illegals every year in exchange for funding the war in Ukraine but that doesn’t explain losing the ability to do basic math or distinguish totally different concepts like asylum and amnesty. A total mystery.

    • Thanks: A123
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    This discussion feels unreal. Not only because you are for once the sane voice in a debate but because I can’t even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue. Are we reaching peak decay in this blog?

    Maybe either of you can answer the question I have posted about a dozen times in numerous threads:

    Why can’t Trump support this bill and then further lock down the border as president?

    Please give us your answer since the other MAGA posters seem stumped. They could really use any type of answer as they simply ignore the question.

    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    I can’t even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue

     

    That fewer illegal immigrants crossing is better than more of them crossing.

    a border “deal” where Biden would not be required to do anything if 4,999 illegals cross the border every day
     
    Versus the current situation where there is no limit whatsoever.

    And how likely would it be that exactly 4,999 would be crossing every day?

    In December alone, around 300,00 crossed the Southern border:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/migrant-encounters-reach-time-high-southwest-border/story?id=106050779

    That's an average of 9,600 per day.

    If this law that for some strange reason you oppose would be in effect, the border would have been closed after 1 day in December (assuming December 1 was an average day for December).

    If you really cared about the border, you would urge this law to be passed, and then pass an even better one when you have the chance.

    But instead, you argue about some strange hypothetical situation in which no more than 4,999 or indeed exactly 5,000 people cross every day for 365 days and on no day ever 8,500 cross. Even if that strange hypothetical were true, and 1.8 million came over, that would still be less than the 2.5 million who crossed in 2023:

    https://www.npr.org/2023/12/22/1221006083/immigration-border-election-presidential

    In other words, at worst the law that you oppose would have resulted in about 700,000 fewer illegal border crossings than crossed in 2023.

    As someone born in the USA I am outraged that an immigrant from Spain by way of Chile comes to this country and opposes a law that at worst would prevent 100,000s of additional illegal immigrants from streaming across the border and at best may prevent millions from doing so.

    The tragicomic thing is that the people most likely to go along with Trump and oppose this compromise deal (because they are too dumb or distracted to think past the number 1.8 million) are the uneducated working class suckers who will be most harmed by those extra 700,000 (at least) immigrants coming here and disrupting working class neighborhoods and lowering working class salaries. I guess on some level they deserve what they have coming, though my paternalism can't help but hope the deal goes through despite their stupid worst wishes.

    Here is the proposed law that you and Trump oppose:

    If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week or 8,500 in a single day, the authority would be triggered automatically, with the Department of Homeland Security forced to turn away immigrants with limited exceptions.

    Replies: @Mikel

  810. @Mikel
    @A123

    This discussion feels unreal. Not only because you are for once the sane voice in a debate but because I can't even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue. Are we reaching peak decay in this blog?

    A couple of RINOs who must not have any fears of not being reelected have negotiated a border "deal" where Biden would not be required to do anything if 4,999 illegals cross the border every day. As DeSantis said, the only acceptable amount of illegal crossings is zero. That is what the law says and what he's supposed to enforce. 7 years after the MAGA victory, why any Republican would agree to anything more than zero undocumented entries in the US is beyond my comprehension.

    It must be the association of the border with Ukraine what must be clouding the minds of these commenters. I can understand why they would both gladly accept 1,800,000 illegals every year in exchange for funding the war in Ukraine but that doesn't explain losing the ability to do basic math or distinguish totally different concepts like asylum and amnesty. A total mystery.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    This discussion feels unreal. Not only because you are for once the sane voice in a debate but because I can’t even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue. Are we reaching peak decay in this blog?

    Maybe either of you can answer the question I have posted about a dozen times in numerous threads:

    Why can’t Trump support this bill and then further lock down the border as president?

    Please give us your answer since the other MAGA posters seem stumped. They could really use any type of answer as they simply ignore the question.

    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.
     
    Because you don't negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they're burning now.

    Any other question?

    Replies: @AP, @A123, @John Johnson

  811. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    This discussion feels unreal. Not only because you are for once the sane voice in a debate but because I can’t even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue. Are we reaching peak decay in this blog?

    Maybe either of you can answer the question I have posted about a dozen times in numerous threads:

    Why can’t Trump support this bill and then further lock down the border as president?

    Please give us your answer since the other MAGA posters seem stumped. They could really use any type of answer as they simply ignore the question.

    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.

    Because you don’t negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they’re burning now.

    Any other question?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel

    The 2 million is a virtually impossible worst-case scenario.

    But apparently if you can't get zero you will take 4 million rather than 2 million. The additional 2 million don't matter to you? How many people will be harmed by those additional ones that exist because you want to play all or nothing?

    Replies: @A123

    , @A123
    @Mikel


    Because you don’t negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they’re burning now.

    Any other question?
     

    I've got a couple:

    -1- Is there any reason to believe the pyromaniacs would actually reduce from 4MM to 2MM?

    This seems unlikely. Not-The-President Biden could be using Title 42 and refuses. Most likely it would stay 4MM, or even increase further.

    -2- What else is in the bill?

    The phrase "limit current and future Presidents" is in circulation. McConnell and Cornyn are involved, so MAGA has to be on maximum alert.

    Fortunately, this RINO Senate sellout is DOA at the House. Even Marco Rubio is walking away from this steaming pile.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @John Johnson
    @Mikel


    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.

     

    Because you don’t negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they’re burning now.

    That doesn't make any sense.

    What would forbid Trump from passing immigration act B after compromise A?

    If Trump has the power to pass B then he should allow A.

    Your defense defies basic logic. If the goal is to lock the border down then why not start with a compromise? What exactly is lost if Trump will have to power to pass a bill that includes components of the compromise?

    What if Trump is barred from politics? Wouldn't it be better for the country to encourage this compromise?

    Trump's antics were kind of funny for a while but this has just gotten sad.

    MAGA followers are now just an example of voluntary human stupidity. Trump claims to care about the border and then brags about blowing up a border deal. Makes sense.

    I really hope he gets barred from politics. This election went from a silly red hat cult engaging in wishful thinking to an unelected felon actually destroying a bipartisan deal before anyone knows if he can run for office.

    Oh and he still has the documents case and sentencing over his properties fraud.

    It's just sad at this point. I don't care if anyone votes for the guy but the voluntary PR work is just pathetic.

    A globalist in a red hat.

  812. @Mikel
    @A123

    This discussion feels unreal. Not only because you are for once the sane voice in a debate but because I can't even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue. Are we reaching peak decay in this blog?

    A couple of RINOs who must not have any fears of not being reelected have negotiated a border "deal" where Biden would not be required to do anything if 4,999 illegals cross the border every day. As DeSantis said, the only acceptable amount of illegal crossings is zero. That is what the law says and what he's supposed to enforce. 7 years after the MAGA victory, why any Republican would agree to anything more than zero undocumented entries in the US is beyond my comprehension.

    It must be the association of the border with Ukraine what must be clouding the minds of these commenters. I can understand why they would both gladly accept 1,800,000 illegals every year in exchange for funding the war in Ukraine but that doesn't explain losing the ability to do basic math or distinguish totally different concepts like asylum and amnesty. A total mystery.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    I can’t even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue

    That fewer illegal immigrants crossing is better than more of them crossing.

    a border “deal” where Biden would not be required to do anything if 4,999 illegals cross the border every day

    Versus the current situation where there is no limit whatsoever.

    And how likely would it be that exactly 4,999 would be crossing every day?

    In December alone, around 300,00 crossed the Southern border:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/migrant-encounters-reach-time-high-southwest-border/story?id=106050779

    That’s an average of 9,600 per day.

    If this law that for some strange reason you oppose would be in effect, the border would have been closed after 1 day in December (assuming December 1 was an average day for December).

    If you really cared about the border, you would urge this law to be passed, and then pass an even better one when you have the chance.

    But instead, you argue about some strange hypothetical situation in which no more than 4,999 or indeed exactly 5,000 people cross every day for 365 days and on no day ever 8,500 cross. Even if that strange hypothetical were true, and 1.8 million came over, that would still be less than the 2.5 million who crossed in 2023:

    https://www.npr.org/2023/12/22/1221006083/immigration-border-election-presidential

    In other words, at worst the law that you oppose would have resulted in about 700,000 fewer illegal border crossings than crossed in 2023.

    As someone born in the USA I am outraged that an immigrant from Spain by way of Chile comes to this country and opposes a law that at worst would prevent 100,000s of additional illegal immigrants from streaming across the border and at best may prevent millions from doing so.

    The tragicomic thing is that the people most likely to go along with Trump and oppose this compromise deal (because they are too dumb or distracted to think past the number 1.8 million) are the uneducated working class suckers who will be most harmed by those extra 700,000 (at least) immigrants coming here and disrupting working class neighborhoods and lowering working class salaries. I guess on some level they deserve what they have coming, though my paternalism can’t help but hope the deal goes through despite their stupid worst wishes.

    Here is the proposed law that you and Trump oppose:

    If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week or 8,500 in a single day, the authority would be triggered automatically, with the Department of Homeland Security forced to turn away immigrants with limited exceptions.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    As someone born in the USA I am outraged that an immigrant...
     
    LOL

    Have a little bit of shame please. We all know that you would sign not 2 but 20 million illegals per year in exchange for the US funding the Ukraine war. What does it matter to you compared to your old country? You've even admitted to be OK with the prospect of the US becoming a big dump like the one California has turned into.

    But this is my country now too and I don't want my child to live in a dump, even if I have to accept the sad but well known fact that some of my new compatriots have their allegiance placed far away from this country, you being a prime example.

    As a matter of fact, I would prefer that the Republicans fund the Ukraine war (which they were doing until recently anyway) than their accepting the border surrender that is being proposed. The law of the land says that you need to have valid papers to enter the US. Period. In fact I visited the US multiple times before becoming a citizen and I know for a fact that the law says that a CBP agent is fully entitled to deny you entry even if all your papers are in order. The mere suspicion that an alien may become a burden to the US is legally sufficient to deny them entry. It is simply insane that what is being enforced at the airports with legal immigrants is not being enforced at the southern border, to the tune of millions of illegal crossings per year, for obscure political reasons.

    I would have never meddled in any conflict between Eastern Slavs and that would have saved us all the need to discuss funding this war but I don't hope to live in a world with no wars and foreign meddling, we haven't evolved enough for that. I do hope however to avoid seeing the world descend to the gender and immigration madness that we're headed to and that requires a very firm stand on the border issue as a minimum first step.

    It's much more than about the US actually. As someone born in Europe, I find it crucial that the issue of the open border with Mexico is fixed. I know from personal experience that every cultural battle won or lost in the US soon has profound implications in the rest of the Western world. Europe cannot hope to fix its own immigration disaster if the US battle is lost. By contrast, if the wall is ever built, I'm pretty confident that sooner or later Europe will find the will to put an end to the flow of migrants through the Mediterranean.

    Replies: @AP, @silviosilver, @Sher Singh

  813. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.
     
    Because you don't negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they're burning now.

    Any other question?

    Replies: @AP, @A123, @John Johnson

    The 2 million is a virtually impossible worst-case scenario.

    But apparently if you can’t get zero you will take 4 million rather than 2 million. The additional 2 million don’t matter to you? How many people will be harmed by those additional ones that exist because you want to play all or nothing?

    • Replies: @A123
    @AP

    Do you believe that Not-The-President Biden, a coup leader who stole his office by breaking the law, would have a massive change of heart to follow the law?


    The 2 million is a virtually impossible worst-case scenario.
     
    The 2 million is mind bogglingly naive best case scenario. Honestly, it is so epically non serious, I have difficulty believing that you floated it.

    The worst-case scenario is the criminal White House occupant will ignore then new law after signing it. Policy will remain unchanged.

    PEACE 😇
  814. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.
     
    Because you don't negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they're burning now.

    Any other question?

    Replies: @AP, @A123, @John Johnson

    Because you don’t negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they’re burning now.

    Any other question?

    I’ve got a couple:

    -1- Is there any reason to believe the pyromaniacs would actually reduce from 4MM to 2MM?

    This seems unlikely. Not-The-President Biden could be using Title 42 and refuses. Most likely it would stay 4MM, or even increase further.

    -2- What else is in the bill?

    The phrase “limit current and future Presidents” is in circulation. McConnell and Cornyn are involved, so MAGA has to be on maximum alert.

    Fortunately, this RINO Senate sellout is DOA at the House. Even Marco Rubio is walking away from this steaming pile.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @A123

    Good questions actually. The more is known about the details of the deal, the more it stinks. Reportedly, it would also limit the number of days per year a President is allowed to invoke the authority to close the border. Imagine Trump being unable to close the border even if there is a deluge of invaders because he's run out of days to invoke that authority. It's a joke that the Dems thought the 2024 republican Party would accept something like that. Not even Obama would have signed it in 2008, let alone Clinton in the 90s.

    Replies: @AP

  815. @A123
    @AP


    You (deliberately?) cut out the last part of the phrase. I even bolded it!
    “If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week“
    5,000 per day
    X 7 days in a week

     
    Nothing malicious about it. If you insist on the intermediate step the result is the same.

    5,000 per day
    x 7 days per week
    x 52.2 weeks per year
    ___________________
    1,827,000 per year

    The math remains simple.


    the authorization is automatically triggered
     
    What would be the result if "the authorization" was "triggered"? Would the rate go to 0/day for the next 365 days? Nope.

    5,000/day would become the standard, yielding over 1.8 million potentially diseased illegal entries per year. Why are you vociferously campaigning for that? It makes no sense unless you want a plague.

    Even if you do not like Trump, you should back MAGA and Mike Johnson: (1)


    Speaker Johnson Rejects Pending Border Deal: Illegal Crossings "Must Be Zero"

     

    House Speaker Mike Johnson was quick to spot the change in language. “Finally. It took three years for President Biden to admit there is a crisis at the southern border,” he told RealClearPolitics in a statement, before adding, “It’s not just a crisis, it’s a catastrophe.”

    “Still, the president claims he has no executive authority to fix the disaster he has created,” the speaker continued. “That is demonstrably untrue. He can and should act immediately.”

    House Republicans appreciate the change in rhetoric.

    And as Jackson Richman reports via The Epoch Times, Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has made clear where House Republicans will draw the line on any agreement dealing with the border: allowing illegal crossings.

    “Any border ’shutdown' authority that ALLOWS even one illegal crossing is a non-starter. Thousands each day is outrageous. The number must be ZERO,” Mr. Johnson wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Jan. 29.

     

    The way to stop illegal immigration of disease carriers is to stop them... Existing law, Title 42, explicitly allows this.

    Letting ~2 Million/year pestilent illegals enter the country is a proven public health disaster.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/speaker-johnson-rejects-pending-border-deal-illegal-crossings-must-be-zero

    Replies: @Mikel, @AP

    If you insist on the intermediate step the result is the same.

    5,000 per day
    x 7 days per week
    x 52.2 weeks per year
    ___________________
    1,827,000 per year

    The math remains simple.

    This is a hypothetical worst case scenario that did not exist in December, when the average crossing were over 9,000 a day, meaning that the border would have been closed immediately.

    But even this worst case scenario would have been fewer people than crossed in 2023 – 2.5 million.

    That is about 700,000 fewer people would have crossed illegally had this far from perfect compromise deal been in effect.

    I’d rather pass this than pass nothing, and pass something better later on.

    You’d rather pass nothing and have unlimited immigration in the hope that the chaos will help Trump get elected. Though you also insist that he will get elected anyways no matter what, in which case we will have, as a result of the refusal to have this deal, an additional 100,000s of illegals prior to his taking office that would not have been here if not for people like you.

  816. @AP
    @Mikel

    The 2 million is a virtually impossible worst-case scenario.

    But apparently if you can't get zero you will take 4 million rather than 2 million. The additional 2 million don't matter to you? How many people will be harmed by those additional ones that exist because you want to play all or nothing?

    Replies: @A123

    Do you believe that Not-The-President Biden, a coup leader who stole his office by breaking the law, would have a massive change of heart to follow the law?

    The 2 million is a virtually impossible worst-case scenario.

    The 2 million is mind bogglingly naive best case scenario. Honestly, it is so epically non serious, I have difficulty believing that you floated it.

    The worst-case scenario is the criminal White House occupant will ignore then new law after signing it. Policy will remain unchanged.

    PEACE 😇

  817. @A123
    @Mikel


    Because you don’t negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they’re burning now.

    Any other question?
     

    I've got a couple:

    -1- Is there any reason to believe the pyromaniacs would actually reduce from 4MM to 2MM?

    This seems unlikely. Not-The-President Biden could be using Title 42 and refuses. Most likely it would stay 4MM, or even increase further.

    -2- What else is in the bill?

    The phrase "limit current and future Presidents" is in circulation. McConnell and Cornyn are involved, so MAGA has to be on maximum alert.

    Fortunately, this RINO Senate sellout is DOA at the House. Even Marco Rubio is walking away from this steaming pile.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mikel

    Good questions actually. The more is known about the details of the deal, the more it stinks. Reportedly, it would also limit the number of days per year a President is allowed to invoke the authority to close the border. Imagine Trump being unable to close the border even if there is a deluge of invaders because he’s run out of days to invoke that authority. It’s a joke that the Dems thought the 2024 republican Party would accept something like that. Not even Obama would have signed it in 2008, let alone Clinton in the 90s.

    • Agree: A123
    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    Reportedly, it would also limit the number of days per year a President is allowed to invoke the authority to close the border.
     
    How many? Do you have a link? Does it reset if the 8500/5000 conditions are met again? I was going by what A123 posted.

    This is what I found:

    https://www.axios.com/2024/01/27/senate-border-deal-biden-house-republicans

    The Department of Homeland Security would also have the option of using the authority even earlier — once crossings surpass a daily average of 4,000 over the course of a week.

    The restrictions would not lift until border crossings remained far below the average daily threshold for two weeks, according to another source.

    It doesn't say they are obligated to open after 2 weeks of few crossings. Just that the border cannot be opened for 2 weeks.

    Replies: @A123

  818. @John Johnson
    @songbird

    Medvedev is actually telling the Japanese to go kill themselves over the Kuril dispute?

    God what a loser.

    The Russian government is led by small and insecure men.

    It's just sad. These guys have a huge amount of power and they still bark like little dogs behind glass doors.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Japan wanted a rapprochement with Russia as a counterbalance against China. It would have been wise for Russia to consider that.

    Aleksandr Dugin ingratiating himself to the CCP is rather unseemly.

    This is written front and center on his Chinese wikipedia.

    他发表了成名著作《地缘政治的基础》

    對俄羅斯構成威脅的中國必須進行「領土解體、分裂以及政治和行政上的分治」、「盡最大可能被拆分」,俄羅斯要把西藏、新疆、內蒙古、中國東北作為安全帶,作為中國與俄羅斯間的緩衝區,而將這個安全帶納入俄羅斯的勢力範圍[13][14]。

    He published his famous book “The Foundations of Geopolitics”

    China, which posed a threat to Russia, had to be “territorially disintegrated, divided, and politically and administratively partitioned” and “split up to the greatest extent possible”,

    and Russia had to use Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, and northeastern China as a safety zone, as a buffer zone between China and Russia, and to include this buffer zone in the Russian sphere of influence[13][14].

    Dugin also proposed Japan as Russia’s ally against China

  819. @AP
    @Mikel


    I can’t even understand what the hell AP and JJ are trying to argue

     

    That fewer illegal immigrants crossing is better than more of them crossing.

    a border “deal” where Biden would not be required to do anything if 4,999 illegals cross the border every day
     
    Versus the current situation where there is no limit whatsoever.

    And how likely would it be that exactly 4,999 would be crossing every day?

    In December alone, around 300,00 crossed the Southern border:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/migrant-encounters-reach-time-high-southwest-border/story?id=106050779

    That's an average of 9,600 per day.

    If this law that for some strange reason you oppose would be in effect, the border would have been closed after 1 day in December (assuming December 1 was an average day for December).

    If you really cared about the border, you would urge this law to be passed, and then pass an even better one when you have the chance.

    But instead, you argue about some strange hypothetical situation in which no more than 4,999 or indeed exactly 5,000 people cross every day for 365 days and on no day ever 8,500 cross. Even if that strange hypothetical were true, and 1.8 million came over, that would still be less than the 2.5 million who crossed in 2023:

    https://www.npr.org/2023/12/22/1221006083/immigration-border-election-presidential

    In other words, at worst the law that you oppose would have resulted in about 700,000 fewer illegal border crossings than crossed in 2023.

    As someone born in the USA I am outraged that an immigrant from Spain by way of Chile comes to this country and opposes a law that at worst would prevent 100,000s of additional illegal immigrants from streaming across the border and at best may prevent millions from doing so.

    The tragicomic thing is that the people most likely to go along with Trump and oppose this compromise deal (because they are too dumb or distracted to think past the number 1.8 million) are the uneducated working class suckers who will be most harmed by those extra 700,000 (at least) immigrants coming here and disrupting working class neighborhoods and lowering working class salaries. I guess on some level they deserve what they have coming, though my paternalism can't help but hope the deal goes through despite their stupid worst wishes.

    Here is the proposed law that you and Trump oppose:

    If crossings exceed 5,000 daily per week or 8,500 in a single day, the authority would be triggered automatically, with the Department of Homeland Security forced to turn away immigrants with limited exceptions.

    Replies: @Mikel

    As someone born in the USA I am outraged that an immigrant…

    LOL

    Have a little bit of shame please. We all know that you would sign not 2 but 20 million illegals per year in exchange for the US funding the Ukraine war. What does it matter to you compared to your old country? You’ve even admitted to be OK with the prospect of the US becoming a big dump like the one California has turned into.

    But this is my country now too and I don’t want my child to live in a dump, even if I have to accept the sad but well known fact that some of my new compatriots have their allegiance placed far away from this country, you being a prime example.

    As a matter of fact, I would prefer that the Republicans fund the Ukraine war (which they were doing until recently anyway) than their accepting the border surrender that is being proposed. The law of the land says that you need to have valid papers to enter the US. Period. In fact I visited the US multiple times before becoming a citizen and I know for a fact that the law says that a CBP agent is fully entitled to deny you entry even if all your papers are in order. The mere suspicion that an alien may become a burden to the US is legally sufficient to deny them entry. It is simply insane that what is being enforced at the airports with legal immigrants is not being enforced at the southern border, to the tune of millions of illegal crossings per year, for obscure political reasons.

    I would have never meddled in any conflict between Eastern Slavs and that would have saved us all the need to discuss funding this war but I don’t hope to live in a world with no wars and foreign meddling, we haven’t evolved enough for that. I do hope however to avoid seeing the world descend to the gender and immigration madness that we’re headed to and that requires a very firm stand on the border issue as a minimum first step.

    It’s much more than about the US actually. As someone born in Europe, I find it crucial that the issue of the open border with Mexico is fixed. I know from personal experience that every cultural battle won or lost in the US soon has profound implications in the rest of the Western world. Europe cannot hope to fix its own immigration disaster if the US battle is lost. By contrast, if the wall is ever built, I’m pretty confident that sooner or later Europe will find the will to put an end to the flow of migrants through the Mediterranean.

    • Agree: silviosilver
    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    We all know that you would sign not 2 but 20 million illegals per year in exchange for the US funding the Ukraine war
     
    Why should that be an exchange?

    You’ve even admitted to be OK with the prospect of the US becoming a big dump like the one California has turned into.
     
    I haven't said that.

    The most I have said in this direction is that it is better than what France is facing, or that it is different and not as bad as what Brazil is. I am not "OK" with the US becoming another California, though I would personally fare not badly in such a situation. Though it won't. It may become a cross between California and Texas, in most parts.

    This deal which forces the president to shut the border after 8,500 come into the country in a single day, or 5,000 a day come in after a week, is better than one in which unlimited come in, which is the current situation.

    The reality is that we have a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. A compromise with these people for a flawed deal with too high a limit is necessary, or there is no deal and no limit.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @silviosilver
    @Mikel

    I wouldn't hold it against him too much. He is simply assuming the positions dictated to him by his Ukraine-first psychological needs. Desperate straits make us all resort to desperate measures from time to time.

    (That said, he has a long history of touting the virtues of hispanics ("they'll be the new Italians!!"), so it's possible he'd be resorting to the same desperate lies even if it weren't for the burning issue of Ukraine funding.)

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    , @Sher Singh
    @Mikel

    Interesting seeing Rightoids gassed up on Jim's Blog over the Texas thing.
    Texas LNG exports are getting blocked + the 40bil in Federal Funding will be impacted.

    Neo-lib states rule through finance - they let people & information flow quite freely.
    This was already discussed decades prior in books like the Network State.

    If only these Rightoid intellectuals actually read anything.

  820. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.
     
    Because you don't negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they're burning now.

    Any other question?

    Replies: @AP, @A123, @John Johnson

    Bestow upon us your sane voice amidst peak decay.

    Because you don’t negotiate with pyromaniacs to let them burn 2 million acres per year as opposed to the 4 million acres they’re burning now.

    That doesn’t make any sense.

    What would forbid Trump from passing immigration act B after compromise A?

    If Trump has the power to pass B then he should allow A.

    Your defense defies basic logic. If the goal is to lock the border down then why not start with a compromise? What exactly is lost if Trump will have to power to pass a bill that includes components of the compromise?

    What if Trump is barred from politics? Wouldn’t it be better for the country to encourage this compromise?

    Trump’s antics were kind of funny for a while but this has just gotten sad.

    MAGA followers are now just an example of voluntary human stupidity. Trump claims to care about the border and then brags about blowing up a border deal. Makes sense.

    I really hope he gets barred from politics. This election went from a silly red hat cult engaging in wishful thinking to an unelected felon actually destroying a bipartisan deal before anyone knows if he can run for office.

    Oh and he still has the documents case and sentencing over his properties fraud.

    It’s just sad at this point. I don’t care if anyone votes for the guy but the voluntary PR work is just pathetic.

    A globalist in a red hat.

  821. @Mikel
    @AP


    As someone born in the USA I am outraged that an immigrant...
     
    LOL

    Have a little bit of shame please. We all know that you would sign not 2 but 20 million illegals per year in exchange for the US funding the Ukraine war. What does it matter to you compared to your old country? You've even admitted to be OK with the prospect of the US becoming a big dump like the one California has turned into.

    But this is my country now too and I don't want my child to live in a dump, even if I have to accept the sad but well known fact that some of my new compatriots have their allegiance placed far away from this country, you being a prime example.

    As a matter of fact, I would prefer that the Republicans fund the Ukraine war (which they were doing until recently anyway) than their accepting the border surrender that is being proposed. The law of the land says that you need to have valid papers to enter the US. Period. In fact I visited the US multiple times before becoming a citizen and I know for a fact that the law says that a CBP agent is fully entitled to deny you entry even if all your papers are in order. The mere suspicion that an alien may become a burden to the US is legally sufficient to deny them entry. It is simply insane that what is being enforced at the airports with legal immigrants is not being enforced at the southern border, to the tune of millions of illegal crossings per year, for obscure political reasons.

    I would have never meddled in any conflict between Eastern Slavs and that would have saved us all the need to discuss funding this war but I don't hope to live in a world with no wars and foreign meddling, we haven't evolved enough for that. I do hope however to avoid seeing the world descend to the gender and immigration madness that we're headed to and that requires a very firm stand on the border issue as a minimum first step.

    It's much more than about the US actually. As someone born in Europe, I find it crucial that the issue of the open border with Mexico is fixed. I know from personal experience that every cultural battle won or lost in the US soon has profound implications in the rest of the Western world. Europe cannot hope to fix its own immigration disaster if the US battle is lost. By contrast, if the wall is ever built, I'm pretty confident that sooner or later Europe will find the will to put an end to the flow of migrants through the Mediterranean.

    Replies: @AP, @silviosilver, @Sher Singh

    We all know that you would sign not 2 but 20 million illegals per year in exchange for the US funding the Ukraine war

    Why should that be an exchange?

    You’ve even admitted to be OK with the prospect of the US becoming a big dump like the one California has turned into.

    I haven’t said that.

    The most I have said in this direction is that it is better than what France is facing, or that it is different and not as bad as what Brazil is. I am not “OK” with the US becoming another California, though I would personally fare not badly in such a situation. Though it won’t. It may become a cross between California and Texas, in most parts.

    This deal which forces the president to shut the border after 8,500 come into the country in a single day, or 5,000 a day come in after a week, is better than one in which unlimited come in, which is the current situation.

    The reality is that we have a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. A compromise with these people for a flawed deal with too high a limit is necessary, or there is no deal and no limit.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    I am not “OK” with the US becoming another California, though I would personally fare not badly in such a situation. Though it won’t. It may become a cross between California and Texas, in most parts.
     
    As someone who personally lives in southern California, life here isn't actually that bad. Quite pleasant, actually. And FWIW, Texas is gradually trending more in California's direction. It was 10% or more Republican relative to the US as a whole back in 2000 but is now only around 5% more Republican relative to the US as a whole. By the 2040s or 2050s (possibly the 2040s), Texas is likely to be as Republican as the US as a whole is--in other words, a true swing state.
  822. @Mikel
    @A123

    Good questions actually. The more is known about the details of the deal, the more it stinks. Reportedly, it would also limit the number of days per year a President is allowed to invoke the authority to close the border. Imagine Trump being unable to close the border even if there is a deluge of invaders because he's run out of days to invoke that authority. It's a joke that the Dems thought the 2024 republican Party would accept something like that. Not even Obama would have signed it in 2008, let alone Clinton in the 90s.

    Replies: @AP

    Reportedly, it would also limit the number of days per year a President is allowed to invoke the authority to close the border.

    How many? Do you have a link? Does it reset if the 8500/5000 conditions are met again? I was going by what A123 posted.

    This is what I found:

    https://www.axios.com/2024/01/27/senate-border-deal-biden-house-republicans

    The Department of Homeland Security would also have the option of using the authority even earlier — once crossings surpass a daily average of 4,000 over the course of a week.

    The restrictions would not lift until border crossings remained far below the average daily threshold for two weeks, according to another source.

    It doesn’t say they are obligated to open after 2 weeks of few crossings. Just that the border cannot be opened for 2 weeks.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AP

    This bill would impact a few months at the end of the White House occupant's misrule. No doubt there will be lawsuits, stays, and injunctions blocking it. So, it is not unreasonable to believe it will have no impact on the current regime.

    Until we see it, there is no way to know what is actually in it. Are things buried in the bill that will hurt Trump's 2nd term? For example, restrictions on use of Title 42 to force 80%+ of asylum seekers to stay outside the U.S.
    ___

    • If the bill is what you think it is, as an act of good faith Not-The-President Biden should immediately reinstate the Title 42 plan. This would reduce crossings by over 50%, and show that his administration is serious.

    The Senate bill would advance at a measured pace where the contents can be studied carefully. The overly high numbers can be brought down. Title 42 "Stay in Mexico" can be made mandatory and permanent. And, other improvements can be made.

    • If the bill is what I think it is, Not-The-President Biden will refuse this act of good faith. The intent is to rush the bill through with insufficient analysis. They want to sneak things past that will only be discovered when it is too late to fix them.

    As long as Not-The-President Biden is artificially creating the problem by refusing to use his current authority, accepting anything from his team deeply problematic. Rushing such a critical change would more or less guarantee flaws in the final product.

    PEACE 😇

  823. @Mikel
    @AP


    As someone born in the USA I am outraged that an immigrant...
     
    LOL

    Have a little bit of shame please. We all know that you would sign not 2 but 20 million illegals per year in exchange for the US funding the Ukraine war. What does it matter to you compared to your old country? You've even admitted to be OK with the prospect of the US becoming a big dump like the one California has turned into.

    But this is my country now too and I don't want my child to live in a dump, even if I have to accept the sad but well known fact that some of my new compatriots have their allegiance placed far away from this country, you being a prime example.

    As a matter of fact, I would prefer that the Republicans fund the Ukraine war (which they were doing until recently anyway) than their accepting the border surrender that is being proposed. The law of the land says that you need to have valid papers to enter the US. Period. In fact I visited the US multiple times before becoming a citizen and I know for a fact that the law says that a CBP agent is fully entitled to deny you entry even if all your papers are in order. The mere suspicion that an alien may become a burden to the US is legally sufficient to deny them entry. It is simply insane that what is being enforced at the airports with legal immigrants is not being enforced at the southern border, to the tune of millions of illegal crossings per year, for obscure political reasons.

    I would have never meddled in any conflict between Eastern Slavs and that would have saved us all the need to discuss funding this war but I don't hope to live in a world with no wars and foreign meddling, we haven't evolved enough for that. I do hope however to avoid seeing the world descend to the gender and immigration madness that we're headed to and that requires a very firm stand on the border issue as a minimum first step.

    It's much more than about the US actually. As someone born in Europe, I find it crucial that the issue of the open border with Mexico is fixed. I know from personal experience that every cultural battle won or lost in the US soon has profound implications in the rest of the Western world. Europe cannot hope to fix its own immigration disaster if the US battle is lost. By contrast, if the wall is ever built, I'm pretty confident that sooner or later Europe will find the will to put an end to the flow of migrants through the Mediterranean.

    Replies: @AP, @silviosilver, @Sher Singh

    I wouldn’t hold it against him too much. He is simply assuming the positions dictated to him by his Ukraine-first psychological needs. Desperate straits make us all resort to desperate measures from time to time.

    (That said, he has a long history of touting the virtues of hispanics (“they’ll be the new Italians!!”), so it’s possible he’d be resorting to the same desperate lies even if it weren’t for the burning issue of Ukraine funding.)

    • Replies: @AP
    @silviosilver


    That said, he has a long history of touting the virtues of hispanics (“they’ll be the new Italians!!
     
    While this is true, it is also true that it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.

    same desperate lies
     
    What did I write that was untrue?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Mikel
    @silviosilver


    it’s possible he’d be resorting to the same desperate lies even if it weren’t for the burning issue of Ukraine funding
     
    I don't think so. It has to be the Ukraine thing. As I said to A123, this discussion is so irrational that it feels kind of unreal. Thankfully, he is no longer defending the idea that the deal doesn't allow for 1,8 M illegals (aka "asylum seekers") per year because it's not 5,000 per day, but 5,000 per day per week. He seems to have realized how boneheaded that was.

    But his mind is still clouded with the idea that the Republicans (in an election year no less) should support any concession from the Democratic blackmailers, as long as it is less awful than what they're doing now. He's basically saying that if all Lankford and the other neocons had managed to get from Biden is that he'll allow 3.5 million illegals per year rather than the current 3.7 million, the Republicans should rush to accept that generous concession. How is that not boneheaded too? How about the Republicans signing a bill saying that the drag queen shows at schools will be reduced by 40%?

    It's very unusual for the Republicans to focus on the important issues that matter to their voters but for once they are doing exactly the right thing now. A few days ago I noticed that the MSM outside of Fox were not discussing the border issue at all but now everybody's discussing it, they have no choice. The Republicans should drag this along as much as they can, to make voters realize what Biden is doing at the border and not get distracted by the lying media.

    Replies: @AP

  824. @silviosilver
    @Mikel

    I wouldn't hold it against him too much. He is simply assuming the positions dictated to him by his Ukraine-first psychological needs. Desperate straits make us all resort to desperate measures from time to time.

    (That said, he has a long history of touting the virtues of hispanics ("they'll be the new Italians!!"), so it's possible he'd be resorting to the same desperate lies even if it weren't for the burning issue of Ukraine funding.)

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    That said, he has a long history of touting the virtues of hispanics (“they’ll be the new Italians!!

    While this is true, it is also true that it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.

    same desperate lies

    What did I write that was untrue?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    While this is true, it is also true that it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.
     
    The US had almost 100 million whites of Germanic and British Isles descent in the 1920s that would have served as a buffer to prevent it from becoming another Argentina even with much more Italian immigration (heck, the US is still not another Argentina right now, even with an extraordinarily massive amount of Latin American immigration over the last several decades). And the 1920s US immigration restrictions also served to keep out people who could have improved the US because they came from the wrong parts of the world, such as Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews (not to mention the smart Asians who were excluded by these restrictions as well as by previous ones, such as by the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act). If the US was less racist and bigoted back in the 1920s, it could have continued allowing Italians into the US but also compensated their influx with the continued large-scale influx of Ashkenazi Jews and smart Asians. It would have resulted in a US similar to the one right now and would have also saved more Jewish lives from the impending Holocaust.

    As a side note, I don't really view the current US as being problematic. The US's main problems are with black American descendants of slaves, not with Latin American immigrants to the US. And even right now, smart Asian immigrants neatly counterbalance the Latin American immigrants to the US.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

  825. Sher Singh says:
    @Mikel
    @AP


    As someone born in the USA I am outraged that an immigrant...
     
    LOL

    Have a little bit of shame please. We all know that you would sign not 2 but 20 million illegals per year in exchange for the US funding the Ukraine war. What does it matter to you compared to your old country? You've even admitted to be OK with the prospect of the US becoming a big dump like the one California has turned into.

    But this is my country now too and I don't want my child to live in a dump, even if I have to accept the sad but well known fact that some of my new compatriots have their allegiance placed far away from this country, you being a prime example.

    As a matter of fact, I would prefer that the Republicans fund the Ukraine war (which they were doing until recently anyway) than their accepting the border surrender that is being proposed. The law of the land says that you need to have valid papers to enter the US. Period. In fact I visited the US multiple times before becoming a citizen and I know for a fact that the law says that a CBP agent is fully entitled to deny you entry even if all your papers are in order. The mere suspicion that an alien may become a burden to the US is legally sufficient to deny them entry. It is simply insane that what is being enforced at the airports with legal immigrants is not being enforced at the southern border, to the tune of millions of illegal crossings per year, for obscure political reasons.

    I would have never meddled in any conflict between Eastern Slavs and that would have saved us all the need to discuss funding this war but I don't hope to live in a world with no wars and foreign meddling, we haven't evolved enough for that. I do hope however to avoid seeing the world descend to the gender and immigration madness that we're headed to and that requires a very firm stand on the border issue as a minimum first step.

    It's much more than about the US actually. As someone born in Europe, I find it crucial that the issue of the open border with Mexico is fixed. I know from personal experience that every cultural battle won or lost in the US soon has profound implications in the rest of the Western world. Europe cannot hope to fix its own immigration disaster if the US battle is lost. By contrast, if the wall is ever built, I'm pretty confident that sooner or later Europe will find the will to put an end to the flow of migrants through the Mediterranean.

    Replies: @AP, @silviosilver, @Sher Singh

    Interesting seeing Rightoids gassed up on Jim’s Blog over the Texas thing.
    Texas LNG exports are getting blocked + the 40bil in Federal Funding will be impacted.

    Neo-lib states rule through finance – they let people & information flow quite freely.
    This was already discussed decades prior in books like the Network State.

    If only these Rightoid intellectuals actually read anything.

  826. @AP
    @Mikel


    Reportedly, it would also limit the number of days per year a President is allowed to invoke the authority to close the border.
     
    How many? Do you have a link? Does it reset if the 8500/5000 conditions are met again? I was going by what A123 posted.

    This is what I found:

    https://www.axios.com/2024/01/27/senate-border-deal-biden-house-republicans

    The Department of Homeland Security would also have the option of using the authority even earlier — once crossings surpass a daily average of 4,000 over the course of a week.

    The restrictions would not lift until border crossings remained far below the average daily threshold for two weeks, according to another source.

    It doesn't say they are obligated to open after 2 weeks of few crossings. Just that the border cannot be opened for 2 weeks.

    Replies: @A123

    This bill would impact a few months at the end of the White House occupant’s misrule. No doubt there will be lawsuits, stays, and injunctions blocking it. So, it is not unreasonable to believe it will have no impact on the current regime.

    Until we see it, there is no way to know what is actually in it. Are things buried in the bill that will hurt Trump’s 2nd term? For example, restrictions on use of Title 42 to force 80%+ of asylum seekers to stay outside the U.S.
    ___

    • If the bill is what you think it is, as an act of good faith Not-The-President Biden should immediately reinstate the Title 42 plan. This would reduce crossings by over 50%, and show that his administration is serious.

    The Senate bill would advance at a measured pace where the contents can be studied carefully. The overly high numbers can be brought down. Title 42 “Stay in Mexico” can be made mandatory and permanent. And, other improvements can be made.

    • If the bill is what I think it is, Not-The-President Biden will refuse this act of good faith. The intent is to rush the bill through with insufficient analysis. They want to sneak things past that will only be discovered when it is too late to fix them.

    As long as Not-The-President Biden is artificially creating the problem by refusing to use his current authority, accepting anything from his team deeply problematic. Rushing such a critical change would more or less guarantee flaws in the final product.

    PEACE 😇

  827. @silviosilver
    @Mikel

    I wouldn't hold it against him too much. He is simply assuming the positions dictated to him by his Ukraine-first psychological needs. Desperate straits make us all resort to desperate measures from time to time.

    (That said, he has a long history of touting the virtues of hispanics ("they'll be the new Italians!!"), so it's possible he'd be resorting to the same desperate lies even if it weren't for the burning issue of Ukraine funding.)

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    it’s possible he’d be resorting to the same desperate lies even if it weren’t for the burning issue of Ukraine funding

    I don’t think so. It has to be the Ukraine thing. As I said to A123, this discussion is so irrational that it feels kind of unreal. Thankfully, he is no longer defending the idea that the deal doesn’t allow for 1,8 M illegals (aka “asylum seekers”) per year because it’s not 5,000 per day, but 5,000 per day per week. He seems to have realized how boneheaded that was.

    But his mind is still clouded with the idea that the Republicans (in an election year no less) should support any concession from the Democratic blackmailers, as long as it is less awful than what they’re doing now. He’s basically saying that if all Lankford and the other neocons had managed to get from Biden is that he’ll allow 3.5 million illegals per year rather than the current 3.7 million, the Republicans should rush to accept that generous concession. How is that not boneheaded too? How about the Republicans signing a bill saying that the drag queen shows at schools will be reduced by 40%?

    It’s very unusual for the Republicans to focus on the important issues that matter to their voters but for once they are doing exactly the right thing now. A few days ago I noticed that the MSM outside of Fox were not discussing the border issue at all but now everybody’s discussing it, they have no choice. The Republicans should drag this along as much as they can, to make voters realize what Biden is doing at the border and not get distracted by the lying media.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    . Thankfully, he is no longer defending the idea that the deal doesn’t allow for 1,8 M illegals (aka “asylum seekers”) per year because it’s not 5,000 per day, but 5,000 per day per week.
     
    It would only hit 1.8 million if it never went above 5,000 per day in a week, or never hit 8,500 in single day. Which would be extremely unlikely. The average was 9,000 a day in December.

    So most likely it would be around half a million. Not good at all, but far better than the 2.5 million who came in 2023.

    He’s basically saying that if all Lankford and the other neocons had managed to get from Biden is that he’ll allow 3.5 million illegals per year rather than the current 3.7 million
     
    So now you've gone from 1.8 million to 3.5 million. Why not 30?

    In the worst case it would be 1.8 million. But it would most likely be far less. It would probably hit 8,500 early on and that would trigger an automatic border shut-down. Then it would open again no sooner than 2 weeks, shut down again if the numbers increase too much. No way it would hit 2.5 million in that case.

    You think that the Republicans don't have to compromise at all right now, at a time when the Democrats control the presidency and the Senate. So rather than compromise and reduce the number of immigrants, you'd rather have them all come in. An extra 700,000 of them if not more.

    Again, here you come to this country and support policies that maximize the number of illegal immigrants that pour into it. Shameless. But I guess you benefit from the cheap labor?
  828. @AP
    @silviosilver


    That said, he has a long history of touting the virtues of hispanics (“they’ll be the new Italians!!
     
    While this is true, it is also true that it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.

    same desperate lies
     
    What did I write that was untrue?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    While this is true, it is also true that it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.

    The US had almost 100 million whites of Germanic and British Isles descent in the 1920s that would have served as a buffer to prevent it from becoming another Argentina even with much more Italian immigration (heck, the US is still not another Argentina right now, even with an extraordinarily massive amount of Latin American immigration over the last several decades). And the 1920s US immigration restrictions also served to keep out people who could have improved the US because they came from the wrong parts of the world, such as Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews (not to mention the smart Asians who were excluded by these restrictions as well as by previous ones, such as by the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act). If the US was less racist and bigoted back in the 1920s, it could have continued allowing Italians into the US but also compensated their influx with the continued large-scale influx of Ashkenazi Jews and smart Asians. It would have resulted in a US similar to the one right now and would have also saved more Jewish lives from the impending Holocaust.

    As a side note, I don’t really view the current US as being problematic. The US’s main problems are with black American descendants of slaves, not with Latin American immigrants to the US. And even right now, smart Asian immigrants neatly counterbalance the Latin American immigrants to the US.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.

    The US had almost 100 million whites of Germanic and British Isles descent in the 1920s that would have served as a buffer to prevent it from becoming another Argentina even with much more Italian immigration
     
    You are right, sort of. The effect would have been disruptive in a different way. The Italians poured into the Northeast and Chicago mostly - they are over 15% of the population in NY/NJ and southern New England. These regions could have become 30% - 50% Italian with unchecked immigration. This would have decreased assimilation - indeed, Italians would probably take over this area and non-Italians would adopt a lot of the culture and political ways of the dominant barely-assimilated Italians. So there would have been a lot more corruption in politics, fighting organized crime be much more difficult, etc. And it would have really exacerbated American regional differences and potential conflicts. It would be more like a huge chunk of America being another Argentina, rather than America as a whole being so. The South would still be as it is, as would be the West and Great Plains.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    As a side note, I don’t really view the current US as being problematic.

    In regard to immigration? Not problematic?

    Crunch the medicaid numbers for Hispanic children with illegal parents.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  829. @AP
    @Mikel


    We all know that you would sign not 2 but 20 million illegals per year in exchange for the US funding the Ukraine war
     
    Why should that be an exchange?

    You’ve even admitted to be OK with the prospect of the US becoming a big dump like the one California has turned into.
     
    I haven't said that.

    The most I have said in this direction is that it is better than what France is facing, or that it is different and not as bad as what Brazil is. I am not "OK" with the US becoming another California, though I would personally fare not badly in such a situation. Though it won't. It may become a cross between California and Texas, in most parts.

    This deal which forces the president to shut the border after 8,500 come into the country in a single day, or 5,000 a day come in after a week, is better than one in which unlimited come in, which is the current situation.

    The reality is that we have a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. A compromise with these people for a flawed deal with too high a limit is necessary, or there is no deal and no limit.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I am not “OK” with the US becoming another California, though I would personally fare not badly in such a situation. Though it won’t. It may become a cross between California and Texas, in most parts.

    As someone who personally lives in southern California, life here isn’t actually that bad. Quite pleasant, actually. And FWIW, Texas is gradually trending more in California’s direction. It was 10% or more Republican relative to the US as a whole back in 2000 but is now only around 5% more Republican relative to the US as a whole. By the 2040s or 2050s (possibly the 2040s), Texas is likely to be as Republican as the US as a whole is–in other words, a true swing state.

  830. @Mikel
    @silviosilver


    it’s possible he’d be resorting to the same desperate lies even if it weren’t for the burning issue of Ukraine funding
     
    I don't think so. It has to be the Ukraine thing. As I said to A123, this discussion is so irrational that it feels kind of unreal. Thankfully, he is no longer defending the idea that the deal doesn't allow for 1,8 M illegals (aka "asylum seekers") per year because it's not 5,000 per day, but 5,000 per day per week. He seems to have realized how boneheaded that was.

    But his mind is still clouded with the idea that the Republicans (in an election year no less) should support any concession from the Democratic blackmailers, as long as it is less awful than what they're doing now. He's basically saying that if all Lankford and the other neocons had managed to get from Biden is that he'll allow 3.5 million illegals per year rather than the current 3.7 million, the Republicans should rush to accept that generous concession. How is that not boneheaded too? How about the Republicans signing a bill saying that the drag queen shows at schools will be reduced by 40%?

    It's very unusual for the Republicans to focus on the important issues that matter to their voters but for once they are doing exactly the right thing now. A few days ago I noticed that the MSM outside of Fox were not discussing the border issue at all but now everybody's discussing it, they have no choice. The Republicans should drag this along as much as they can, to make voters realize what Biden is doing at the border and not get distracted by the lying media.

    Replies: @AP

    . Thankfully, he is no longer defending the idea that the deal doesn’t allow for 1,8 M illegals (aka “asylum seekers”) per year because it’s not 5,000 per day, but 5,000 per day per week.

    It would only hit 1.8 million if it never went above 5,000 per day in a week, or never hit 8,500 in single day. Which would be extremely unlikely. The average was 9,000 a day in December.

    So most likely it would be around half a million. Not good at all, but far better than the 2.5 million who came in 2023.

    He’s basically saying that if all Lankford and the other neocons had managed to get from Biden is that he’ll allow 3.5 million illegals per year rather than the current 3.7 million

    So now you’ve gone from 1.8 million to 3.5 million. Why not 30?

    In the worst case it would be 1.8 million. But it would most likely be far less. It would probably hit 8,500 early on and that would trigger an automatic border shut-down. Then it would open again no sooner than 2 weeks, shut down again if the numbers increase too much. No way it would hit 2.5 million in that case.

    You think that the Republicans don’t have to compromise at all right now, at a time when the Democrats control the presidency and the Senate. So rather than compromise and reduce the number of immigrants, you’d rather have them all come in. An extra 700,000 of them if not more.

    Again, here you come to this country and support policies that maximize the number of illegal immigrants that pour into it. Shameless. But I guess you benefit from the cheap labor?

  831. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    While this is true, it is also true that it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.
     
    The US had almost 100 million whites of Germanic and British Isles descent in the 1920s that would have served as a buffer to prevent it from becoming another Argentina even with much more Italian immigration (heck, the US is still not another Argentina right now, even with an extraordinarily massive amount of Latin American immigration over the last several decades). And the 1920s US immigration restrictions also served to keep out people who could have improved the US because they came from the wrong parts of the world, such as Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews (not to mention the smart Asians who were excluded by these restrictions as well as by previous ones, such as by the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act). If the US was less racist and bigoted back in the 1920s, it could have continued allowing Italians into the US but also compensated their influx with the continued large-scale influx of Ashkenazi Jews and smart Asians. It would have resulted in a US similar to the one right now and would have also saved more Jewish lives from the impending Holocaust.

    As a side note, I don't really view the current US as being problematic. The US's main problems are with black American descendants of slaves, not with Latin American immigrants to the US. And even right now, smart Asian immigrants neatly counterbalance the Latin American immigrants to the US.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.

    The US had almost 100 million whites of Germanic and British Isles descent in the 1920s that would have served as a buffer to prevent it from becoming another Argentina even with much more Italian immigration

    You are right, sort of. The effect would have been disruptive in a different way. The Italians poured into the Northeast and Chicago mostly – they are over 15% of the population in NY/NJ and southern New England. These regions could have become 30% – 50% Italian with unchecked immigration. This would have decreased assimilation – indeed, Italians would probably take over this area and non-Italians would adopt a lot of the culture and political ways of the dominant barely-assimilated Italians. So there would have been a lot more corruption in politics, fighting organized crime be much more difficult, etc. And it would have really exacerbated American regional differences and potential conflicts. It would be more like a huge chunk of America being another Argentina, rather than America as a whole being so. The South would still be as it is, as would be the West and Great Plains.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Couldn't by that logic one say that the Southwestern US has become a giant Argentina by now, though? Except with Latin Americans taking the place of Italians.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  832. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.

    The US had almost 100 million whites of Germanic and British Isles descent in the 1920s that would have served as a buffer to prevent it from becoming another Argentina even with much more Italian immigration
     
    You are right, sort of. The effect would have been disruptive in a different way. The Italians poured into the Northeast and Chicago mostly - they are over 15% of the population in NY/NJ and southern New England. These regions could have become 30% - 50% Italian with unchecked immigration. This would have decreased assimilation - indeed, Italians would probably take over this area and non-Italians would adopt a lot of the culture and political ways of the dominant barely-assimilated Italians. So there would have been a lot more corruption in politics, fighting organized crime be much more difficult, etc. And it would have really exacerbated American regional differences and potential conflicts. It would be more like a huge chunk of America being another Argentina, rather than America as a whole being so. The South would still be as it is, as would be the West and Great Plains.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Couldn’t by that logic one say that the Southwestern US has become a giant Argentina by now, though? Except with Latin Americans taking the place of Italians.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Except that even nowadays, the Southwestern US still has more going for it than Argentina has. It likely has a much larger smart fraction and also has a global innovation hub in the form of Silicon Valley, for which Argentina has nothing even remotely comparable. And the Southwestern US still produces much more elite science per capita than Argentina does.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  833. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Couldn't by that logic one say that the Southwestern US has become a giant Argentina by now, though? Except with Latin Americans taking the place of Italians.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Except that even nowadays, the Southwestern US still has more going for it than Argentina has. It likely has a much larger smart fraction and also has a global innovation hub in the form of Silicon Valley, for which Argentina has nothing even remotely comparable. And the Southwestern US still produces much more elite science per capita than Argentina does.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Here is a map of the huge elite science production clusters in the Southwestern US (especially in California, but also somewhat in Texas and elsewhere in the Southwestern US) while there is almost nothing in Argentina:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/science-production/

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/map-nature-index-cities-world-2017.png

    Replies: @QCIC, @Another Polish Perspective

  834. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    While this is true, it is also true that it was wise of the USA to cut off Italian mass immigration i the 1920s for a couple of decades fin order to force the Italians to assimilate. Otherwise the USA would have become more like Argentina. Great food and wine, but a corrupt and poor mess. Similarly, the USA would benefit from a 20 year restriction on Latino immigration, enabling the ones already here to become very much like what Italians became.
     
    The US had almost 100 million whites of Germanic and British Isles descent in the 1920s that would have served as a buffer to prevent it from becoming another Argentina even with much more Italian immigration (heck, the US is still not another Argentina right now, even with an extraordinarily massive amount of Latin American immigration over the last several decades). And the 1920s US immigration restrictions also served to keep out people who could have improved the US because they came from the wrong parts of the world, such as Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews (not to mention the smart Asians who were excluded by these restrictions as well as by previous ones, such as by the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act). If the US was less racist and bigoted back in the 1920s, it could have continued allowing Italians into the US but also compensated their influx with the continued large-scale influx of Ashkenazi Jews and smart Asians. It would have resulted in a US similar to the one right now and would have also saved more Jewish lives from the impending Holocaust.

    As a side note, I don't really view the current US as being problematic. The US's main problems are with black American descendants of slaves, not with Latin American immigrants to the US. And even right now, smart Asian immigrants neatly counterbalance the Latin American immigrants to the US.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    As a side note, I don’t really view the current US as being problematic.

    In regard to immigration? Not problematic?

    Crunch the medicaid numbers for Hispanic children with illegal parents.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    That can at least be compensated (at least somewhat) by importing many more cognitive elites from all over the world and also by (possibly massively) increasing productivity through AI.

    Mizrahi Jews were also likely an economic burden on Israel and possibly still are due to them being almost a standard deviation duller on average relative to Ashkenazi Jews. But Israel still wanted them. Similarly, anyone who wants an Israeli-style white ethno-state here in the US (not me, but the idea still sounds very interesting) should embrace 25+% European Latin Americans and their immediate family members being admitted into the US.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

  835. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    As a side note, I don’t really view the current US as being problematic.

    In regard to immigration? Not problematic?

    Crunch the medicaid numbers for Hispanic children with illegal parents.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    That can at least be compensated (at least somewhat) by importing many more cognitive elites from all over the world and also by (possibly massively) increasing productivity through AI.

    Mizrahi Jews were also likely an economic burden on Israel and possibly still are due to them being almost a standard deviation duller on average relative to Ashkenazi Jews. But Israel still wanted them. Similarly, anyone who wants an Israeli-style white ethno-state here in the US (not me, but the idea still sounds very interesting) should embrace 25+% European Latin Americans and their immediate family members being admitted into the US.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Importing cognitive elites to the USA may not be as consequential as it once was. In the past this process allowed individuals who would be held back by their own local circumstances to blossom, but may no longer be true. The USA is less free than it once was and is very woke. On the other hand, information access is much better than it used to be in other places. In the USA, investors and managers are focused on either "pie in the sky" startups (not all bad) or just the next quarterly report (mostly bad). The middle ground where there is enough productive surplus to support good people developing new ideas and new things, combined with long term thinking, has been driven out by all of the negative trends which are increasing the cost of doing business in the USA.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    That can at least be compensated (at least somewhat) by importing many more cognitive elites from all over the world and also by (possibly massively) increasing productivity through AI.

    Libertarian wishful thinking. You're *hoping and wishing* that computers and Dot immigrants will somehow fix it all.

    This is where you and I diverge. I am not a globalist that believes in treating nations like a bowl of soup. Too many Haitians? Oh let's just shake on some Pakis and see if that will fix it. Didn't work as well as the original population? Libertarians and liberals will never face that reality. They'll just keep shaking on new populations until the system crashes.

    There is also the problem of cultural disunity. You bring in disparate populations that have no connection to each other. So you fill H1B positions while compromising social integrity.

    California had this problem 15 years ago and it didn't go away. An Hispanic population that relies on Medicaid that overburdens an already fragile health care system.

    It will eventually crash and AI will not magically fix it.

    We currently have Democrat mayors that are asking Biden to close the border. Unlimited immigrantion is not a magic elixir for any economy. If that were the case then those mayors would be begging for more Democrats. Denver currently has 40,000 illegals from Biden's open border. Where do they go? How many can you take?

    Mizrahi Jews were also likely an economic burden on Israel and possibly still are due to them being almost a standard deviation duller on average relative to Ashkenazi Jews. But Israel still wanted them.

    Israel is a completely different situation. They only have 9.5 million people and have an abundance of US investors. Economically they are like a wealthy US state. It would be like if Maine or Vermont could cut their Federal payments and reinvest into state health care while being selective with immigration.

    Eventually DNA will be fully unraveled and everyone will have a look back and laugh at the "Moar immigrants" ideologies that are rooted in blank slate.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  836. Zaluzhny is being sacked. The reason is the way he waselite units such as Azov were being superbly equipped, getting the best recuits and are held back for use in mobile counter attacks, whereupon another hapless units of poorly trained older men get sent in to occupy the reconquered positions which Russian artillery are zeroed in on, which is extremely dangerous duty and in a great many cases without any rotation out. So the bulk of the current large numbers of Ukrainian KIA are not in elite units. There was suspicion that Zaluzhny was planning some kind of coup.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Sean

    If Zaluzhny is highly competent as some say, then he would know his job is hopeless from the beginning. So what is the explanation?


    - The cause is good, I'll do my best.
    - The pay is good, I'll do my best.
    - 'Highly competent' is a relative term.
    - Russkies bad!
    - He hates his fellow Ukrainians and wants to send them to their deaths.

    The good news is, once he is sacked he doesn't have to hide his Nazi tattoos anymore ;)

  837. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Except that even nowadays, the Southwestern US still has more going for it than Argentina has. It likely has a much larger smart fraction and also has a global innovation hub in the form of Silicon Valley, for which Argentina has nothing even remotely comparable. And the Southwestern US still produces much more elite science per capita than Argentina does.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Here is a map of the huge elite science production clusters in the Southwestern US (especially in California, but also somewhat in Texas and elsewhere in the Southwestern US) while there is almost nothing in Argentina:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/science-production/

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Academic standards in the USA have been declining for a long time. I wonder what cultural shift could pop all the big balloons in the USA in short order?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. XYZ

    Sorry, but what is "elite science"? Is this science in English language or what...?
    I thought science is science, good or bad but "elite"...?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  838. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    That can at least be compensated (at least somewhat) by importing many more cognitive elites from all over the world and also by (possibly massively) increasing productivity through AI.

    Mizrahi Jews were also likely an economic burden on Israel and possibly still are due to them being almost a standard deviation duller on average relative to Ashkenazi Jews. But Israel still wanted them. Similarly, anyone who wants an Israeli-style white ethno-state here in the US (not me, but the idea still sounds very interesting) should embrace 25+% European Latin Americans and their immediate family members being admitted into the US.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Importing cognitive elites to the USA may not be as consequential as it once was. In the past this process allowed individuals who would be held back by their own local circumstances to blossom, but may no longer be true. The USA is less free than it once was and is very woke. On the other hand, information access is much better than it used to be in other places. In the USA, investors and managers are focused on either “pie in the sky” startups (not all bad) or just the next quarterly report (mostly bad). The middle ground where there is enough productive surplus to support good people developing new ideas and new things, combined with long term thinking, has been driven out by all of the negative trends which are increasing the cost of doing business in the USA.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    One can still do plenty of elite science in the US, though one needs to be careful to avoid pissing off the Woke censors. Technically, there are journals where one can publish non-Woke research as well, but they're less prestigious and will result in one getting stigmatized and possibly even fired by Woke lunatics if one will actually use one's real name on these publications, as Bryan Pasta did. I hope that Pesta's lawsuit against his university for firing him will succeed.

  839. @Sean
    Zaluzhny is being sacked. The reason is the way he waselite units such as Azov were being superbly equipped, getting the best recuits and are held back for use in mobile counter attacks, whereupon another hapless units of poorly trained older men get sent in to occupy the reconquered positions which Russian artillery are zeroed in on, which is extremely dangerous duty and in a great many cases without any rotation out. So the bulk of the current large numbers of Ukrainian KIA are not in elite units. There was suspicion that Zaluzhny was planning some kind of coup.

    Replies: @QCIC

    If Zaluzhny is highly competent as some say, then he would know his job is hopeless from the beginning. So what is the explanation?

    – The cause is good, I’ll do my best.
    – The pay is good, I’ll do my best.
    – ‘Highly competent’ is a relative term.
    – Russkies bad!
    – He hates his fellow Ukrainians and wants to send them to their deaths.

    The good news is, once he is sacked he doesn’t have to hide his Nazi tattoos anymore 😉

  840. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Here is a map of the huge elite science production clusters in the Southwestern US (especially in California, but also somewhat in Texas and elsewhere in the Southwestern US) while there is almost nothing in Argentina:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/science-production/

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/map-nature-index-cities-world-2017.png

    Replies: @QCIC, @Another Polish Perspective

    Academic standards in the USA have been declining for a long time. I wonder what cultural shift could pop all the big balloons in the USA in short order?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    Getting whites and Asians to adopt black concepts of laziness?

    Replies: @QCIC

  841. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Importing cognitive elites to the USA may not be as consequential as it once was. In the past this process allowed individuals who would be held back by their own local circumstances to blossom, but may no longer be true. The USA is less free than it once was and is very woke. On the other hand, information access is much better than it used to be in other places. In the USA, investors and managers are focused on either "pie in the sky" startups (not all bad) or just the next quarterly report (mostly bad). The middle ground where there is enough productive surplus to support good people developing new ideas and new things, combined with long term thinking, has been driven out by all of the negative trends which are increasing the cost of doing business in the USA.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    One can still do plenty of elite science in the US, though one needs to be careful to avoid pissing off the Woke censors. Technically, there are journals where one can publish non-Woke research as well, but they’re less prestigious and will result in one getting stigmatized and possibly even fired by Woke lunatics if one will actually use one’s real name on these publications, as Bryan Pasta did. I hope that Pesta’s lawsuit against his university for firing him will succeed.

  842. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Academic standards in the USA have been declining for a long time. I wonder what cultural shift could pop all the big balloons in the USA in short order?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Getting whites and Asians to adopt black concepts of laziness?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    What you mention seems like an ongoing slow process which has been fostered by the American media for a long time. I was thinking that someday soon more and more smart foreign students, grad students and post-docs may simply decide to stop coming to the USA. Then their english-as-a-second language thesis advisors begin to leave the USA as well since they can't find enough mental horsepower to pursue their research.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  843. @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    Getting whites and Asians to adopt black concepts of laziness?

    Replies: @QCIC

    What you mention seems like an ongoing slow process which has been fostered by the American media for a long time. I was thinking that someday soon more and more smart foreign students, grad students and post-docs may simply decide to stop coming to the USA. Then their english-as-a-second language thesis advisors begin to leave the USA as well since they can’t find enough mental horsepower to pursue their research.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @QCIC

    English will always be useful as a second language for foreign students since it is the language of the Internet and of elite science production outside of China.

  844. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    That can at least be compensated (at least somewhat) by importing many more cognitive elites from all over the world and also by (possibly massively) increasing productivity through AI.

    Mizrahi Jews were also likely an economic burden on Israel and possibly still are due to them being almost a standard deviation duller on average relative to Ashkenazi Jews. But Israel still wanted them. Similarly, anyone who wants an Israeli-style white ethno-state here in the US (not me, but the idea still sounds very interesting) should embrace 25+% European Latin Americans and their immediate family members being admitted into the US.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    That can at least be compensated (at least somewhat) by importing many more cognitive elites from all over the world and also by (possibly massively) increasing productivity through AI.

    Libertarian wishful thinking. You’re *hoping and wishing* that computers and Dot immigrants will somehow fix it all.

    This is where you and I diverge. I am not a globalist that believes in treating nations like a bowl of soup. Too many Haitians? Oh let’s just shake on some Pakis and see if that will fix it. Didn’t work as well as the original population? Libertarians and liberals will never face that reality. They’ll just keep shaking on new populations until the system crashes.

    There is also the problem of cultural disunity. You bring in disparate populations that have no connection to each other. So you fill H1B positions while compromising social integrity.

    California had this problem 15 years ago and it didn’t go away. An Hispanic population that relies on Medicaid that overburdens an already fragile health care system.

    It will eventually crash and AI will not magically fix it.

    We currently have Democrat mayors that are asking Biden to close the border. Unlimited immigrantion is not a magic elixir for any economy. If that were the case then those mayors would be begging for more Democrats. Denver currently has 40,000 illegals from Biden’s open border. Where do they go? How many can you take?

    Mizrahi Jews were also likely an economic burden on Israel and possibly still are due to them being almost a standard deviation duller on average relative to Ashkenazi Jews. But Israel still wanted them.

    Israel is a completely different situation. They only have 9.5 million people and have an abundance of US investors. Economically they are like a wealthy US state. It would be like if Maine or Vermont could cut their Federal payments and reinvest into state health care while being selective with immigration.

    Eventually DNA will be fully unraveled and everyone will have a look back and laugh at the “Moar immigrants” ideologies that are rooted in blank slate.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    We currently have Democrat mayors that are asking Biden to close the border. Unlimited immigrantion is not a magic elixir for any economy. If that were the case then those mayors would be begging for more Democrats. Denver currently has 40,000 illegals from Biden’s open border. Where do they go? How many can you take?
     
    Sure, I'm not against reducing the number of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers for the time being in order to help liberal areas/cities better absorb them and also make it more likely to secure additional US aid for Ukraine.

    Israel is a completely different situation. They only have 9.5 million people and have an abundance of US investors. Economically they are like a wealthy US state. It would be like if Maine or Vermont could cut their Federal payments and reinvest into state health care while being selective with immigration.

     

    You do know that Mizrahi Jews are a pretty significant part of Israel's total population, right? Around a million of them or slightly less than that moved to Israel in the past, but they had high fertility, so nowadays there might be something like 3 to 4 million Israeli Jews who are at least of partial Mizrahi (or Sephardi, I suppose) Jewish descent. Israel nowadays has slightly over 7 million Jews, plus around half a million (or slightly more than that) people of Jewish descent (or their non-Jewish spouses) who are not halakhically Jewish.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  845. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    What you mention seems like an ongoing slow process which has been fostered by the American media for a long time. I was thinking that someday soon more and more smart foreign students, grad students and post-docs may simply decide to stop coming to the USA. Then their english-as-a-second language thesis advisors begin to leave the USA as well since they can't find enough mental horsepower to pursue their research.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    English will always be useful as a second language for foreign students since it is the language of the Internet and of elite science production outside of China.

  846. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    That can at least be compensated (at least somewhat) by importing many more cognitive elites from all over the world and also by (possibly massively) increasing productivity through AI.

    Libertarian wishful thinking. You're *hoping and wishing* that computers and Dot immigrants will somehow fix it all.

    This is where you and I diverge. I am not a globalist that believes in treating nations like a bowl of soup. Too many Haitians? Oh let's just shake on some Pakis and see if that will fix it. Didn't work as well as the original population? Libertarians and liberals will never face that reality. They'll just keep shaking on new populations until the system crashes.

    There is also the problem of cultural disunity. You bring in disparate populations that have no connection to each other. So you fill H1B positions while compromising social integrity.

    California had this problem 15 years ago and it didn't go away. An Hispanic population that relies on Medicaid that overburdens an already fragile health care system.

    It will eventually crash and AI will not magically fix it.

    We currently have Democrat mayors that are asking Biden to close the border. Unlimited immigrantion is not a magic elixir for any economy. If that were the case then those mayors would be begging for more Democrats. Denver currently has 40,000 illegals from Biden's open border. Where do they go? How many can you take?

    Mizrahi Jews were also likely an economic burden on Israel and possibly still are due to them being almost a standard deviation duller on average relative to Ashkenazi Jews. But Israel still wanted them.

    Israel is a completely different situation. They only have 9.5 million people and have an abundance of US investors. Economically they are like a wealthy US state. It would be like if Maine or Vermont could cut their Federal payments and reinvest into state health care while being selective with immigration.

    Eventually DNA will be fully unraveled and everyone will have a look back and laugh at the "Moar immigrants" ideologies that are rooted in blank slate.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    We currently have Democrat mayors that are asking Biden to close the border. Unlimited immigrantion is not a magic elixir for any economy. If that were the case then those mayors would be begging for more Democrats. Denver currently has 40,000 illegals from Biden’s open border. Where do they go? How many can you take?

    Sure, I’m not against reducing the number of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers for the time being in order to help liberal areas/cities better absorb them and also make it more likely to secure additional US aid for Ukraine.

    Israel is a completely different situation. They only have 9.5 million people and have an abundance of US investors. Economically they are like a wealthy US state. It would be like if Maine or Vermont could cut their Federal payments and reinvest into state health care while being selective with immigration.

    You do know that Mizrahi Jews are a pretty significant part of Israel’s total population, right? Around a million of them or slightly less than that moved to Israel in the past, but they had high fertility, so nowadays there might be something like 3 to 4 million Israeli Jews who are at least of partial Mizrahi (or Sephardi, I suppose) Jewish descent. Israel nowadays has slightly over 7 million Jews, plus around half a million (or slightly more than that) people of Jewish descent (or their non-Jewish spouses) who are not halakhically Jewish.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    You do know that Mizrahi Jews are a pretty significant part of Israel’s total population, right? Around a million of them or slightly less than that moved to Israel in the past, but they had high fertility, so nowadays there might be something like 3 to 4 million Israeli Jews who are at least of partial Mizrahi

    I really don't see what that has to do with our immigration problems.

    Israel has a mix of Jews from around the world. Yes I realize that.... so what?

    They're still a small country with wealthy backers and Jews are united by both religion and culture.

    Good luck to them but it really doesn't provide any sort of model or lesson for the US or any other country for that matter. Are you suggesting that multi-ethnic countries that mostly have the same religion produce ideal results? Well if that were the case then Madagascar should be a leading economy.

    Madagascar is in fact older than Israel and has had the "free market" that our conservatives profess is the magic center to America. They never adopted Communism or socialism and yet the GDP per capita is around $2000 a month.

    So everyone is full of shit. Meaning both liberals and conservatives don't have a working model for first world countries and all evidence suggests that filling a first world country with third worlders will lower the standard of living for everyone.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  847. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Here is a map of the huge elite science production clusters in the Southwestern US (especially in California, but also somewhat in Texas and elsewhere in the Southwestern US) while there is almost nothing in Argentina:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/science-production/

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/map-nature-index-cities-world-2017.png

    Replies: @QCIC, @Another Polish Perspective

    Sorry, but what is “elite science”? Is this science in English language or what…?
    I thought science is science, good or bad but “elite”…?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Another Polish Perspective

    It's Nature Index publications:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_Index

    It only covers high-quality scientific publications.

    Is it biased?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective

  848. @Beckow
    @Philip Owen

    No, that's what happened, and no direct vote on it was allowed. You are misinformed and you seem really out of it from your comments, a frustrated Brit with no knowledge of the region and deep resentments (did you lose money there?).

    Or you just lie - to most Brits that is about the same thing.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    I lost friends. Most of my close ones for the last 30 years. Travel is now impossible.

  849. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    We currently have Democrat mayors that are asking Biden to close the border. Unlimited immigrantion is not a magic elixir for any economy. If that were the case then those mayors would be begging for more Democrats. Denver currently has 40,000 illegals from Biden’s open border. Where do they go? How many can you take?
     
    Sure, I'm not against reducing the number of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers for the time being in order to help liberal areas/cities better absorb them and also make it more likely to secure additional US aid for Ukraine.

    Israel is a completely different situation. They only have 9.5 million people and have an abundance of US investors. Economically they are like a wealthy US state. It would be like if Maine or Vermont could cut their Federal payments and reinvest into state health care while being selective with immigration.

     

    You do know that Mizrahi Jews are a pretty significant part of Israel's total population, right? Around a million of them or slightly less than that moved to Israel in the past, but they had high fertility, so nowadays there might be something like 3 to 4 million Israeli Jews who are at least of partial Mizrahi (or Sephardi, I suppose) Jewish descent. Israel nowadays has slightly over 7 million Jews, plus around half a million (or slightly more than that) people of Jewish descent (or their non-Jewish spouses) who are not halakhically Jewish.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    You do know that Mizrahi Jews are a pretty significant part of Israel’s total population, right? Around a million of them or slightly less than that moved to Israel in the past, but they had high fertility, so nowadays there might be something like 3 to 4 million Israeli Jews who are at least of partial Mizrahi

    I really don’t see what that has to do with our immigration problems.

    Israel has a mix of Jews from around the world. Yes I realize that…. so what?

    They’re still a small country with wealthy backers and Jews are united by both religion and culture.

    Good luck to them but it really doesn’t provide any sort of model or lesson for the US or any other country for that matter. Are you suggesting that multi-ethnic countries that mostly have the same religion produce ideal results? Well if that were the case then Madagascar should be a leading economy.

    Madagascar is in fact older than Israel and has had the “free market” that our conservatives profess is the magic center to America. They never adopted Communism or socialism and yet the GDP per capita is around $2000 a month.

    So everyone is full of shit. Meaning both liberals and conservatives don’t have a working model for first world countries and all evidence suggests that filling a first world country with third worlders will lower the standard of living for everyone.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    Are you suggesting that multi-ethnic countries that mostly have the same religion produce ideal results?
     
    No; rather, I'm suggesting that a country can import a lot of Third Worlders and still achieve relatively good results. (Mizrahi Jews are Third Worlders.)

    Madagascar performs poorly because it's way too dull (likely in part for environmental reasons):

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/10/national-intelli-basic-skills/

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/basic_skills_map-2048x969.png

    In contrast, US Hispanics perform at Italy's level on the PISA exam:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrteXknXoAAp36b.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson

  850. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    You do know that Mizrahi Jews are a pretty significant part of Israel’s total population, right? Around a million of them or slightly less than that moved to Israel in the past, but they had high fertility, so nowadays there might be something like 3 to 4 million Israeli Jews who are at least of partial Mizrahi

    I really don't see what that has to do with our immigration problems.

    Israel has a mix of Jews from around the world. Yes I realize that.... so what?

    They're still a small country with wealthy backers and Jews are united by both religion and culture.

    Good luck to them but it really doesn't provide any sort of model or lesson for the US or any other country for that matter. Are you suggesting that multi-ethnic countries that mostly have the same religion produce ideal results? Well if that were the case then Madagascar should be a leading economy.

    Madagascar is in fact older than Israel and has had the "free market" that our conservatives profess is the magic center to America. They never adopted Communism or socialism and yet the GDP per capita is around $2000 a month.

    So everyone is full of shit. Meaning both liberals and conservatives don't have a working model for first world countries and all evidence suggests that filling a first world country with third worlders will lower the standard of living for everyone.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Are you suggesting that multi-ethnic countries that mostly have the same religion produce ideal results?

    No; rather, I’m suggesting that a country can import a lot of Third Worlders and still achieve relatively good results. (Mizrahi Jews are Third Worlders.)

    Madagascar performs poorly because it’s way too dull (likely in part for environmental reasons):

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/10/national-intelli-basic-skills/

    In contrast, US Hispanics perform at Italy’s level on the PISA exam:

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    No; rather, I’m suggesting that a country can import a lot of Third Worlders and still achieve relatively good results. (Mizrahi Jews are Third Worlders.)

    Madagascar performs poorly because it’s way too dull (likely in part for environmental reasons):

    Madagascar has more natural resources than Israel.

    Not understanding the logic here.

    If importing third worlders = moar better then why are they even coming here? Shouldn't they turn into first world countries by having plenty of third worlders?

    This is where libertarian theory falls apart. If third worlders are a precious resource then why does so much economic inequality exist between nations? Why haven't those individualists fixed their own countries? The dark theories have more evidence even if we don't want them to be true.

    In contrast, US Hispanics perform at Italy’s level on the PISA exam:

    The PISA is a very selective exam and participants are not randomized.

    It isn't at all representational.

    Furthermore the liberals cheat tests that are supposed to be randomized. This has been going on for years. They have techniques like pulling certain kids on test days. They also don't have to test kids that are technically disabled. Well they practically give out ADD/ADHD certifications like candy.

    Public school teachers are cheating all the standardized tests. I knew someone that was forced to take part in it. They don't want the public to know how bad the gap really is. The gap you read about isn't accurate in the least. It's much worse and hasn't improved. Liberal egalitarian educational theories have been a disaster.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  851. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. XYZ

    Sorry, but what is "elite science"? Is this science in English language or what...?
    I thought science is science, good or bad but "elite"...?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    It’s Nature Index publications:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_Index

    It only covers high-quality scientific publications.

    Is it biased?

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. XYZ

    Yes. 82 journals for all natural sciences is a very low number.
    I would call it an index of approved science, since when you publish in eg. Nature, you must have a long career behind you and good position on good university.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. XYZ

    "Elite" science from China is spreading around the world.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/feb/03/the-situation-has-become-appalling-fake-scientific-papers-push-research-credibility-to-crisis-point

    China holds most places in your Nature Index.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  852. @Mr. XYZ
    @Another Polish Perspective

    It's Nature Index publications:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_Index

    It only covers high-quality scientific publications.

    Is it biased?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective

    Yes. 82 journals for all natural sciences is a very low number.
    I would call it an index of approved science, since when you publish in eg. Nature, you must have a long career behind you and good position on good university.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Another Polish Perspective

    What's a better index to use for this, then?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  853. @Mr. XYZ
    @Another Polish Perspective

    It's Nature Index publications:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_Index

    It only covers high-quality scientific publications.

    Is it biased?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Another Polish Perspective

    “Elite” science from China is spreading around the world.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/feb/03/the-situation-has-become-appalling-fake-scientific-papers-push-research-credibility-to-crisis-point

    China holds most places in your Nature Index.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Yep, seems like there is a lot of research fraud in China:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2019/10/scientific-misconduct-by-ancestry-country/

    Unsurprising since China is a relatively corrupt country.

  854. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. XYZ

    Yes. 82 journals for all natural sciences is a very low number.
    I would call it an index of approved science, since when you publish in eg. Nature, you must have a long career behind you and good position on good university.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    What’s a better index to use for this, then?

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. XYZ

    I am not sure.

    Number of patents as submitted to local patent offices since international patent offices are very expensive...?
    Research output per scientists, considering also non-English articles...?

    You would actually have to weight several factors, not just one, and then get some average for each country.

    Replies: @QCIC

  855. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. XYZ

    "Elite" science from China is spreading around the world.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/feb/03/the-situation-has-become-appalling-fake-scientific-papers-push-research-credibility-to-crisis-point

    China holds most places in your Nature Index.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Yep, seems like there is a lot of research fraud in China:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2019/10/scientific-misconduct-by-ancestry-country/

    Unsurprising since China is a relatively corrupt country.

  856. @Mr. XYZ
    @Another Polish Perspective

    What's a better index to use for this, then?

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    I am not sure.

    Number of patents as submitted to local patent offices since international patent offices are very expensive…?
    Research output per scientists, considering also non-English articles…?

    You would actually have to weight several factors, not just one, and then get some average for each country.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Sadly, the number of patents is a questionable metric for innovation. It probably represents the number of lawyers more than the quantity or quality of new ideas.

    Tracking elite science production requires a trailing index which somehow monitors the impact of a new result after the dust has settled from the initial publication. Number of citations is supposed to do this, but science has too much of a hive mind to take this at face value. Some of the highest citation counts may go to review papers which are valuable but not innovative.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

  857. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Mr. XYZ

    I am not sure.

    Number of patents as submitted to local patent offices since international patent offices are very expensive...?
    Research output per scientists, considering also non-English articles...?

    You would actually have to weight several factors, not just one, and then get some average for each country.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Sadly, the number of patents is a questionable metric for innovation. It probably represents the number of lawyers more than the quantity or quality of new ideas.

    Tracking elite science production requires a trailing index which somehow monitors the impact of a new result after the dust has settled from the initial publication. Number of citations is supposed to do this, but science has too much of a hive mind to take this at face value. Some of the highest citation counts may go to review papers which are valuable but not innovative.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Research papers are a very poor indicator of scientific progress.

    Liberals tell us to "trust the science" when the most liberal departments are filled with fraud.

    How else could the dog rape paper be published:
    https://www.wweek.com/news/schools/2018/10/09/a-portland-state-university-professor-made-up-a-study-of-dog-on-dog-sexual-assault-and-got-the-hoax-published/

    It's also well known that the Chinese value quantity over quality when it comes to research.

    , @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Number of citations is supposed to do this
     
    So-called high-profile journals, like Nature, strive to get maximum number of citations per published article. In that, they are aping Hollywood, where the difference between famous and notorious has disappeared. You get exactly the same number of citations when 40 papers cite you and say your findings are great and when 40 papers cite you and say that your paper is BS. Industry is complaining for many years that the reliability of data published in mid-range journals is much greater that of those published in high-profile journals. As the joke puts it, “even though it was published in Nature, it might still be true”.

    Some of the highest citation counts may go to review papers which are valuable but not innovative.
     
    Reviews almost always get more cites than primary research papers. The reason for this is simple: people are too lazy to read the original papers and cite reviews instead.
  858. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    Are you suggesting that multi-ethnic countries that mostly have the same religion produce ideal results?
     
    No; rather, I'm suggesting that a country can import a lot of Third Worlders and still achieve relatively good results. (Mizrahi Jews are Third Worlders.)

    Madagascar performs poorly because it's way too dull (likely in part for environmental reasons):

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/10/national-intelli-basic-skills/

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/basic_skills_map-2048x969.png

    In contrast, US Hispanics perform at Italy's level on the PISA exam:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrteXknXoAAp36b.jpg

    Replies: @John Johnson

    No; rather, I’m suggesting that a country can import a lot of Third Worlders and still achieve relatively good results. (Mizrahi Jews are Third Worlders.)

    Madagascar performs poorly because it’s way too dull (likely in part for environmental reasons):

    Madagascar has more natural resources than Israel.

    Not understanding the logic here.

    If importing third worlders = moar better then why are they even coming here? Shouldn’t they turn into first world countries by having plenty of third worlders?

    This is where libertarian theory falls apart. If third worlders are a precious resource then why does so much economic inequality exist between nations? Why haven’t those individualists fixed their own countries? The dark theories have more evidence even if we don’t want them to be true.

    In contrast, US Hispanics perform at Italy’s level on the PISA exam:

    The PISA is a very selective exam and participants are not randomized.

    It isn’t at all representational.

    Furthermore the liberals cheat tests that are supposed to be randomized. This has been going on for years. They have techniques like pulling certain kids on test days. They also don’t have to test kids that are technically disabled. Well they practically give out ADD/ADHD certifications like candy.

    Public school teachers are cheating all the standardized tests. I knew someone that was forced to take part in it. They don’t want the public to know how bad the gap really is. The gap you read about isn’t accurate in the least. It’s much worse and hasn’t improved. Liberal egalitarian educational theories have been a disaster.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    If importing third worlders = moar better then why are they even coming here? Shouldn’t they turn into first world countries by having plenty of third worlders?
     
    Mexico isn't that poor; it's comparable to China, Argentina, Serbia, and Uruguay:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    The other Latin American countries further to the south might suffer from larger brain drain and, until recently in places like El Salvador, crazy amounts of homicides/violence.

    This is where libertarian theory falls apart. If third worlders are a precious resource then why does so much economic inequality exist between nations? Why haven’t those individualists fixed their own countries? The dark theories have more evidence even if we don’t want them to be true.
     
    It's not always easy to fix one's own country. You need to get a high-quality leader, whether through an election or through a dictatorship. This is why North Korea is still a shithole right now in spite of its population likely being pretty smart. El Salvador got lucky in getting Bukele as a candidate and then voting for him. He's illiberal but he managed to get El Salvador's homicide rate down to white American levels, which truly is quite extraordinary.

    I don't dispute that there are some genetic differences in average IQ and criminality between different human (socially defined) populations.

    The PISA is a very selective exam and participants are not randomized.

    It isn’t at all representational.

    Furthermore the liberals cheat tests that are supposed to be randomized. This has been going on for years. They have techniques like pulling certain kids on test days. They also don’t have to test kids that are technically disabled. Well they practically give out ADD/ADHD certifications like candy.

    Public school teachers are cheating all the standardized tests. I knew someone that was forced to take part in it. They don’t want the public to know how bad the gap really is. The gap you read about isn’t accurate in the least. It’s much worse and hasn’t improved. Liberal egalitarian educational theories have been a disaster.
     
    Are you suggesting that a lot of dull Asians and dull whites take the PISA exam but a lot of dull Hispanics and dull blacks don't?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  859. @QCIC
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Sadly, the number of patents is a questionable metric for innovation. It probably represents the number of lawyers more than the quantity or quality of new ideas.

    Tracking elite science production requires a trailing index which somehow monitors the impact of a new result after the dust has settled from the initial publication. Number of citations is supposed to do this, but science has too much of a hive mind to take this at face value. Some of the highest citation counts may go to review papers which are valuable but not innovative.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    Research papers are a very poor indicator of scientific progress.

    Liberals tell us to “trust the science” when the most liberal departments are filled with fraud.

    How else could the dog rape paper be published:
    https://www.wweek.com/news/schools/2018/10/09/a-portland-state-university-professor-made-up-a-study-of-dog-on-dog-sexual-assault-and-got-the-hoax-published/

    It’s also well known that the Chinese value quantity over quality when it comes to research.

    • Agree: QCIC
  860. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    No; rather, I’m suggesting that a country can import a lot of Third Worlders and still achieve relatively good results. (Mizrahi Jews are Third Worlders.)

    Madagascar performs poorly because it’s way too dull (likely in part for environmental reasons):

    Madagascar has more natural resources than Israel.

    Not understanding the logic here.

    If importing third worlders = moar better then why are they even coming here? Shouldn't they turn into first world countries by having plenty of third worlders?

    This is where libertarian theory falls apart. If third worlders are a precious resource then why does so much economic inequality exist between nations? Why haven't those individualists fixed their own countries? The dark theories have more evidence even if we don't want them to be true.

    In contrast, US Hispanics perform at Italy’s level on the PISA exam:

    The PISA is a very selective exam and participants are not randomized.

    It isn't at all representational.

    Furthermore the liberals cheat tests that are supposed to be randomized. This has been going on for years. They have techniques like pulling certain kids on test days. They also don't have to test kids that are technically disabled. Well they practically give out ADD/ADHD certifications like candy.

    Public school teachers are cheating all the standardized tests. I knew someone that was forced to take part in it. They don't want the public to know how bad the gap really is. The gap you read about isn't accurate in the least. It's much worse and hasn't improved. Liberal egalitarian educational theories have been a disaster.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    If importing third worlders = moar better then why are they even coming here? Shouldn’t they turn into first world countries by having plenty of third worlders?

    Mexico isn’t that poor; it’s comparable to China, Argentina, Serbia, and Uruguay:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    The other Latin American countries further to the south might suffer from larger brain drain and, until recently in places like El Salvador, crazy amounts of homicides/violence.

    This is where libertarian theory falls apart. If third worlders are a precious resource then why does so much economic inequality exist between nations? Why haven’t those individualists fixed their own countries? The dark theories have more evidence even if we don’t want them to be true.

    It’s not always easy to fix one’s own country. You need to get a high-quality leader, whether through an election or through a dictatorship. This is why North Korea is still a shithole right now in spite of its population likely being pretty smart. El Salvador got lucky in getting Bukele as a candidate and then voting for him. He’s illiberal but he managed to get El Salvador’s homicide rate down to white American levels, which truly is quite extraordinary.

    I don’t dispute that there are some genetic differences in average IQ and criminality between different human (socially defined) populations.

    The PISA is a very selective exam and participants are not randomized.

    It isn’t at all representational.

    Furthermore the liberals cheat tests that are supposed to be randomized. This has been going on for years. They have techniques like pulling certain kids on test days. They also don’t have to test kids that are technically disabled. Well they practically give out ADD/ADHD certifications like candy.

    Public school teachers are cheating all the standardized tests. I knew someone that was forced to take part in it. They don’t want the public to know how bad the gap really is. The gap you read about isn’t accurate in the least. It’s much worse and hasn’t improved. Liberal egalitarian educational theories have been a disaster.

    Are you suggesting that a lot of dull Asians and dull whites take the PISA exam but a lot of dull Hispanics and dull blacks don’t?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Mexico isn’t that poor; it’s comparable to China, Argentina, Serbia, and Uruguay:

    I'm not a fan of PPP and it doesn't measure inequality.

    Mexico is not a junior America with a spicy latin flavor. They have entire towns where the houses are made from boxes. The levels of animal abuse are atrocious. But Mexico really isn't the main problem.

    The main problem is that the southern border is open and people from all over the world are trying to enter. I'm more concerned with immigration from countries like Haiti and El Salvador than Mexico. I also don't like how we have Chinese streaming in when they could be spies. I think it is reasonable to know who is going across the border. I'm also not a fan of Islam and we have Muslims streaming across the border as well. It isn't like the border of 10 years ago. It's an international border and I don't think anyone has a full explanation as to why. Are third worlders around the world giving up on their countries? It seems to be the case.

    The other Latin American countries further to the south might suffer from larger brain drain and, until recently in places like El Salvador, crazy amounts of homicides/violence.

    And that is one reason why I oppose open immigration. I don't think we should take every last nurse and doctor from these countries that already have marginal health care systems.

    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren't helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.

    It’s not always easy to fix one’s own country. You need to get a high-quality leader, whether through an election or through a dictatorship. This is why North Korea is still a shithole right now in spite of its population likely being pretty smart.

    North Korea is an extreme because of a dictatorship and their embrace of Communism.

    Haiti has been a free market country since the time of Napolean.

    Tell us what you think it would take to improve them to the point where they don't eat mud cakes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_cookie

    Those are cakes that actually contain mud.

    Are you suggesting that a lot of dull Asians and dull whites take the PISA exam but a lot of dull Hispanics and dull blacks don’t?

    I said nothing of Whites and Asians. Schools in White areas simply take the test and follow the rules.

    I know for a fact that liberals in diverse areas play games with the tests. I would take a very hard look at any type of standardized test in the US. A better metric would be math/reading levels which have slid and all of these tests have been recentered to pad the numbers.

    You can verify what I said about excluding students with disabilities and that Blacks are more likely to be tagged with ADD:
    https://www.additudemag.com/prevalence-of-adhd-black-americans/

    Liberals play all kinds of games with the tests. Another trick is to not announce the test unless it is a day that they know a lot of kids will skip. You can get a sense for some this in The Wire where they only want certain bad kids to show up when they are taking attendance for government funding.

    I really don't like any of these games and would like the government to do what is best for each group. But we are at a point in society where liberals prefer to lie and conservatives maintain their own alternative bullshit narratives.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  861. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    If importing third worlders = moar better then why are they even coming here? Shouldn’t they turn into first world countries by having plenty of third worlders?
     
    Mexico isn't that poor; it's comparable to China, Argentina, Serbia, and Uruguay:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    The other Latin American countries further to the south might suffer from larger brain drain and, until recently in places like El Salvador, crazy amounts of homicides/violence.

    This is where libertarian theory falls apart. If third worlders are a precious resource then why does so much economic inequality exist between nations? Why haven’t those individualists fixed their own countries? The dark theories have more evidence even if we don’t want them to be true.
     
    It's not always easy to fix one's own country. You need to get a high-quality leader, whether through an election or through a dictatorship. This is why North Korea is still a shithole right now in spite of its population likely being pretty smart. El Salvador got lucky in getting Bukele as a candidate and then voting for him. He's illiberal but he managed to get El Salvador's homicide rate down to white American levels, which truly is quite extraordinary.

    I don't dispute that there are some genetic differences in average IQ and criminality between different human (socially defined) populations.

    The PISA is a very selective exam and participants are not randomized.

    It isn’t at all representational.

    Furthermore the liberals cheat tests that are supposed to be randomized. This has been going on for years. They have techniques like pulling certain kids on test days. They also don’t have to test kids that are technically disabled. Well they practically give out ADD/ADHD certifications like candy.

    Public school teachers are cheating all the standardized tests. I knew someone that was forced to take part in it. They don’t want the public to know how bad the gap really is. The gap you read about isn’t accurate in the least. It’s much worse and hasn’t improved. Liberal egalitarian educational theories have been a disaster.
     
    Are you suggesting that a lot of dull Asians and dull whites take the PISA exam but a lot of dull Hispanics and dull blacks don't?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Mexico isn’t that poor; it’s comparable to China, Argentina, Serbia, and Uruguay:

    I’m not a fan of PPP and it doesn’t measure inequality.

    Mexico is not a junior America with a spicy latin flavor. They have entire towns where the houses are made from boxes. The levels of animal abuse are atrocious. But Mexico really isn’t the main problem.

    The main problem is that the southern border is open and people from all over the world are trying to enter. I’m more concerned with immigration from countries like Haiti and El Salvador than Mexico. I also don’t like how we have Chinese streaming in when they could be spies. I think it is reasonable to know who is going across the border. I’m also not a fan of Islam and we have Muslims streaming across the border as well. It isn’t like the border of 10 years ago. It’s an international border and I don’t think anyone has a full explanation as to why. Are third worlders around the world giving up on their countries? It seems to be the case.

    The other Latin American countries further to the south might suffer from larger brain drain and, until recently in places like El Salvador, crazy amounts of homicides/violence.

    And that is one reason why I oppose open immigration. I don’t think we should take every last nurse and doctor from these countries that already have marginal health care systems.

    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren’t helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.

    [MORE]

    It’s not always easy to fix one’s own country. You need to get a high-quality leader, whether through an election or through a dictatorship. This is why North Korea is still a shithole right now in spite of its population likely being pretty smart.

    North Korea is an extreme because of a dictatorship and their embrace of Communism.

    Haiti has been a free market country since the time of Napolean.

    Tell us what you think it would take to improve them to the point where they don’t eat mud cakes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_cookie

    Those are cakes that actually contain mud.

    Are you suggesting that a lot of dull Asians and dull whites take the PISA exam but a lot of dull Hispanics and dull blacks don’t?

    I said nothing of Whites and Asians. Schools in White areas simply take the test and follow the rules.

    I know for a fact that liberals in diverse areas play games with the tests. I would take a very hard look at any type of standardized test in the US. A better metric would be math/reading levels which have slid and all of these tests have been recentered to pad the numbers.

    You can verify what I said about excluding students with disabilities and that Blacks are more likely to be tagged with ADD:
    https://www.additudemag.com/prevalence-of-adhd-black-americans/

    Liberals play all kinds of games with the tests. Another trick is to not announce the test unless it is a day that they know a lot of kids will skip. You can get a sense for some this in The Wire where they only want certain bad kids to show up when they are taking attendance for government funding.

    I really don’t like any of these games and would like the government to do what is best for each group. But we are at a point in society where liberals prefer to lie and conservatives maintain their own alternative bullshit narratives.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    Tell us what you think it would take to improve them to the point where they don’t eat mud cakes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_cookie

    Those are cakes that actually contain mud.
     

    A voluntary eugenics program on an extraordinarily massive scale.

    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren’t helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.
     
    Their medical workers can do more medical research here in the US, no?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

  862. @QCIC
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Sadly, the number of patents is a questionable metric for innovation. It probably represents the number of lawyers more than the quantity or quality of new ideas.

    Tracking elite science production requires a trailing index which somehow monitors the impact of a new result after the dust has settled from the initial publication. Number of citations is supposed to do this, but science has too much of a hive mind to take this at face value. Some of the highest citation counts may go to review papers which are valuable but not innovative.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AnonfromTN

    Number of citations is supposed to do this

    So-called high-profile journals, like Nature, strive to get maximum number of citations per published article. In that, they are aping Hollywood, where the difference between famous and notorious has disappeared. You get exactly the same number of citations when 40 papers cite you and say your findings are great and when 40 papers cite you and say that your paper is BS. Industry is complaining for many years that the reliability of data published in mid-range journals is much greater that of those published in high-profile journals. As the joke puts it, “even though it was published in Nature, it might still be true”.

    Some of the highest citation counts may go to review papers which are valuable but not innovative.

    Reviews almost always get more cites than primary research papers. The reason for this is simple: people are too lazy to read the original papers and cite reviews instead.

  863. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Mexico isn’t that poor; it’s comparable to China, Argentina, Serbia, and Uruguay:

    I'm not a fan of PPP and it doesn't measure inequality.

    Mexico is not a junior America with a spicy latin flavor. They have entire towns where the houses are made from boxes. The levels of animal abuse are atrocious. But Mexico really isn't the main problem.

    The main problem is that the southern border is open and people from all over the world are trying to enter. I'm more concerned with immigration from countries like Haiti and El Salvador than Mexico. I also don't like how we have Chinese streaming in when they could be spies. I think it is reasonable to know who is going across the border. I'm also not a fan of Islam and we have Muslims streaming across the border as well. It isn't like the border of 10 years ago. It's an international border and I don't think anyone has a full explanation as to why. Are third worlders around the world giving up on their countries? It seems to be the case.

    The other Latin American countries further to the south might suffer from larger brain drain and, until recently in places like El Salvador, crazy amounts of homicides/violence.

    And that is one reason why I oppose open immigration. I don't think we should take every last nurse and doctor from these countries that already have marginal health care systems.

    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren't helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.

    It’s not always easy to fix one’s own country. You need to get a high-quality leader, whether through an election or through a dictatorship. This is why North Korea is still a shithole right now in spite of its population likely being pretty smart.

    North Korea is an extreme because of a dictatorship and their embrace of Communism.

    Haiti has been a free market country since the time of Napolean.

    Tell us what you think it would take to improve them to the point where they don't eat mud cakes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_cookie

    Those are cakes that actually contain mud.

    Are you suggesting that a lot of dull Asians and dull whites take the PISA exam but a lot of dull Hispanics and dull blacks don’t?

    I said nothing of Whites and Asians. Schools in White areas simply take the test and follow the rules.

    I know for a fact that liberals in diverse areas play games with the tests. I would take a very hard look at any type of standardized test in the US. A better metric would be math/reading levels which have slid and all of these tests have been recentered to pad the numbers.

    You can verify what I said about excluding students with disabilities and that Blacks are more likely to be tagged with ADD:
    https://www.additudemag.com/prevalence-of-adhd-black-americans/

    Liberals play all kinds of games with the tests. Another trick is to not announce the test unless it is a day that they know a lot of kids will skip. You can get a sense for some this in The Wire where they only want certain bad kids to show up when they are taking attendance for government funding.

    I really don't like any of these games and would like the government to do what is best for each group. But we are at a point in society where liberals prefer to lie and conservatives maintain their own alternative bullshit narratives.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Tell us what you think it would take to improve them to the point where they don’t eat mud cakes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_cookie

    Those are cakes that actually contain mud.

    A voluntary eugenics program on an extraordinarily massive scale.

    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren’t helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.

    Their medical workers can do more medical research here in the US, no?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, Haitians aren't completely useless; after all, they helped secure the Louisiana Territory for us:

    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/without-haiti-the-united-states-would-in-fact-be-a-shithole/

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    A voluntary eugenics program on an extraordinarily massive scale.

    We send them 100k liberal White women to lighten the coffee?

    How about a reasonable solution?


    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren’t helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.
     
    Their medical workers can do more medical research here in the US, no?

    Most aren't doing medical research.

    They are in fact heavily staffed in racially mixed areas.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  864. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    Tell us what you think it would take to improve them to the point where they don’t eat mud cakes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_cookie

    Those are cakes that actually contain mud.
     

    A voluntary eugenics program on an extraordinarily massive scale.

    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren’t helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.
     
    Their medical workers can do more medical research here in the US, no?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    BTW, Haitians aren’t completely useless; after all, they helped secure the Louisiana Territory for us:

    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/without-haiti-the-united-states-would-in-fact-be-a-shithole/

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, Haitians aren’t completely useless; after all, they helped secure the Louisiana Territory for us:

    Well we built a lot of their main roads and sent them billions in aid.

    We kept the Germans from taking them in WW1.

    I'd say we are even.

    I am all for improving Haiti.

    But I support doing it in Haiti and not making a new Haiti in America.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  865. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson


    Tell us what you think it would take to improve them to the point where they don’t eat mud cakes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_cookie

    Those are cakes that actually contain mud.
     

    A voluntary eugenics program on an extraordinarily massive scale.

    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren’t helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.
     
    Their medical workers can do more medical research here in the US, no?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @John Johnson

    A voluntary eugenics program on an extraordinarily massive scale.

    We send them 100k liberal White women to lighten the coffee?

    How about a reasonable solution?

    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren’t helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.

    Their medical workers can do more medical research here in the US, no?

    Most aren’t doing medical research.

    They are in fact heavily staffed in racially mixed areas.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Do their children do any medical research? Or is that a rare thing even for their children to do?

    Encouraging more eugenic fertility among our own non-Asian minorities could go a long way, no? Right now, their fertility is much more dysgenic than that of US whites and Asians, IIRC.

    As for sending over 100,000 liberal White women to Haiti, that would certainly be a great idea from a hyper-liberal perspective since it would at least slightly equalize the access to White booty. The problem is, of course, that our own Whites also need to breed more, and not dysgenically.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  866. @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, Haitians aren't completely useless; after all, they helped secure the Louisiana Territory for us:

    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/without-haiti-the-united-states-would-in-fact-be-a-shithole/

    Replies: @John Johnson

    BTW, Haitians aren’t completely useless; after all, they helped secure the Louisiana Territory for us:

    Well we built a lot of their main roads and sent them billions in aid.

    We kept the Germans from taking them in WW1.

    I’d say we are even.

    I am all for improving Haiti.

    But I support doing it in Haiti and not making a new Haiti in America.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Was Haiti ever at risk of being conquered by the Germans during WWI? Or was it simply a figment of US paranoia? (I know that the US did expand during WWI, specifically in 1917 by buying the Danish West Indies from Denmark at a much higher price than we would have paid for them back in 1902.)

    Agreed about not making a new Haiti in America.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  867. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, Haitians aren’t completely useless; after all, they helped secure the Louisiana Territory for us:

    Well we built a lot of their main roads and sent them billions in aid.

    We kept the Germans from taking them in WW1.

    I'd say we are even.

    I am all for improving Haiti.

    But I support doing it in Haiti and not making a new Haiti in America.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Was Haiti ever at risk of being conquered by the Germans during WWI? Or was it simply a figment of US paranoia? (I know that the US did expand during WWI, specifically in 1917 by buying the Danish West Indies from Denmark at a much higher price than we would have paid for them back in 1902.)

    Agreed about not making a new Haiti in America.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Was Haiti ever at risk of being conquered by the Germans during WWI? Or was it simply a figment of US paranoia? (I know that the US did expand during WWI, specifically in 1917 by buying the Danish West Indies from Denmark at a much higher price than we would have paid for them back in 1902.)

    A full invasion was probably never the plan. More like make Haiti a part of the German sphere of influence and then have reliable ports in case they needed to battle the US.

    That one reason for the US occupation of Haiti in 1914
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti

    Germany could have easily setup a puppet government on the basis of stabilizing the island.

    Not saying the US occupation was justified but I wouldn't call it paranoia.

    Germany played pretty stupid overseas chess during that period. Afterall they ended up trying to make an alliance with Mexico against the US.

  868. @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    A voluntary eugenics program on an extraordinarily massive scale.

    We send them 100k liberal White women to lighten the coffee?

    How about a reasonable solution?


    I would like to see these countries improve and we aren’t helping by H1-B-ing their medical workers.
     
    Their medical workers can do more medical research here in the US, no?

    Most aren't doing medical research.

    They are in fact heavily staffed in racially mixed areas.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Do their children do any medical research? Or is that a rare thing even for their children to do?

    Encouraging more eugenic fertility among our own non-Asian minorities could go a long way, no? Right now, their fertility is much more dysgenic than that of US whites and Asians, IIRC.

    As for sending over 100,000 liberal White women to Haiti, that would certainly be a great idea from a hyper-liberal perspective since it would at least slightly equalize the access to White booty. The problem is, of course, that our own Whites also need to breed more, and not dysgenically.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Do their children do any medical research? Or is that a rare thing even for their children to do?

    Most medical research by native born Americans is unfunded. Pretty sad really. We have more scientists than funding.

    Encouraging more eugenic fertility among our own non-Asian minorities could go a long way, no? Right now, their fertility is much more dysgenic than that of US whites and Asians, IIRC.

    It could go a long way but it is unfortunately probably too late. Ending welfare for unmarried women would be in theory be an easy method of mitigation but politically impractical. The Republicans don't even talk about welfare anymore. Well outside of EBT and they mostly went after certain groups of men. I honestly think a lot of Republicans have checked out on us. They think the rapture is coming and just want to write a check to Israel.

    Shockley was warning about welfare dysgenics decades ago. He was worried that welfare would be dysgenic for Blacks that already had a limited pool of middle class professionals.

    I don't think welfare is as dysgenic for Whites as many here assume. Might be slightly dysgenic but probably more of a move to the middle. I suspect most White women from the working class actually try to "dip up" when possible. White women are normally turned off by low intelligence. I have worked with rural White women and they are much wiser than as depicted on television. They don't want to have kids with idiots unless they feel like they have no choice. I suspect some of them even "dip out" when the opportunity is there.

    But I suspect Blacks are in trouble. Single Black women that have a child out of high school are not sleeping with Darnell the accountant. In fact I think the schools are cheating to hide this trend. I could be wrong but my main concern is that no one is having this conversation. It's too much of a taboo.

    Black women are certainly selecting for athletics. They see nothing wrong with sharing the sperm of a professional athlete.

  869. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Was Haiti ever at risk of being conquered by the Germans during WWI? Or was it simply a figment of US paranoia? (I know that the US did expand during WWI, specifically in 1917 by buying the Danish West Indies from Denmark at a much higher price than we would have paid for them back in 1902.)

    Agreed about not making a new Haiti in America.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Was Haiti ever at risk of being conquered by the Germans during WWI? Or was it simply a figment of US paranoia? (I know that the US did expand during WWI, specifically in 1917 by buying the Danish West Indies from Denmark at a much higher price than we would have paid for them back in 1902.)

    A full invasion was probably never the plan. More like make Haiti a part of the German sphere of influence and then have reliable ports in case they needed to battle the US.

    That one reason for the US occupation of Haiti in 1914
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti

    Germany could have easily setup a puppet government on the basis of stabilizing the island.

    Not saying the US occupation was justified but I wouldn’t call it paranoia.

    Germany played pretty stupid overseas chess during that period. Afterall they ended up trying to make an alliance with Mexico against the US.

  870. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Do their children do any medical research? Or is that a rare thing even for their children to do?

    Encouraging more eugenic fertility among our own non-Asian minorities could go a long way, no? Right now, their fertility is much more dysgenic than that of US whites and Asians, IIRC.

    As for sending over 100,000 liberal White women to Haiti, that would certainly be a great idea from a hyper-liberal perspective since it would at least slightly equalize the access to White booty. The problem is, of course, that our own Whites also need to breed more, and not dysgenically.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Do their children do any medical research? Or is that a rare thing even for their children to do?

    Most medical research by native born Americans is unfunded. Pretty sad really. We have more scientists than funding.

    Encouraging more eugenic fertility among our own non-Asian minorities could go a long way, no? Right now, their fertility is much more dysgenic than that of US whites and Asians, IIRC.

    It could go a long way but it is unfortunately probably too late. Ending welfare for unmarried women would be in theory be an easy method of mitigation but politically impractical. The Republicans don’t even talk about welfare anymore. Well outside of EBT and they mostly went after certain groups of men. I honestly think a lot of Republicans have checked out on us. They think the rapture is coming and just want to write a check to Israel.

    Shockley was warning about welfare dysgenics decades ago. He was worried that welfare would be dysgenic for Blacks that already had a limited pool of middle class professionals.

    I don’t think welfare is as dysgenic for Whites as many here assume. Might be slightly dysgenic but probably more of a move to the middle. I suspect most White women from the working class actually try to “dip up” when possible. White women are normally turned off by low intelligence. I have worked with rural White women and they are much wiser than as depicted on television. They don’t want to have kids with idiots unless they feel like they have no choice. I suspect some of them even “dip out” when the opportunity is there.

    But I suspect Blacks are in trouble. Single Black women that have a child out of high school are not sleeping with Darnell the accountant. In fact I think the schools are cheating to hide this trend. I could be wrong but my main concern is that no one is having this conversation. It’s too much of a taboo.

    Black women are certainly selecting for athletics. They see nothing wrong with sharing the sperm of a professional athlete.

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