Religion claims that its authority is divine. It’s also voluntary, so if whores don’t want to follow the rules, they’re free to go to hell.

good ol’ voluntary chrisitianty
it’s so voluntary, you go to hell if you volunteer out of it

From reading, I know that some orders of Catholic women religious (nuns, abbesses) in the U.S.A. are run as essentially homosexual feminist communes.

Members of those orders, through a quick Internet search, can be revealed as being mainly (entirely?) aging dykes. Orders with more young members tend to be more inclined to traditionalism.

I suppose the situation must be similar in at least parts of Europe, but don’t know for sure.

The former are at the centre of this push.

Look at those forms of Protestantism that retained superficial resemblance to Catholicism, Anglicans, Lutherans, but allow lady priests in some places (Korean Lutherans don’t AFAIK). Nobody wants a lady priest with a vapid face who sees her vestments as a kind of drag show. They are all like that. Congregations are splintering and dwindling.

Priestly celibacy is not an ancient thing. If a shortage of male priests with vocations exists, then open the seminaries and the priesthood to men who are married to or intend to marry women.

Already, plenty of Eastern Rite and Ordinariate priests are married yet within the Catholic Church.

Papism invented modern feminism by way of its platonic theology and its destruction of marriage at the Council of Trent, so this is just their chickens coming home to roost.

good ol’ voluntary chrisitianty
it’s so voluntary, you go to hell if you volunteer out of it

If you don’t believe it, then why it’s a problem for you?

Andrew, hell doesn’t exist. At least not the hell you’re referring to. I know you know this. Hell is just the boogieman the Jews use to enforce goyim compliance with their foreign, non-European religious doctrines.

As AA points out, Catholic feminism is the flip side of homosexualizing the priesthood, the purpose of both being destruction of the Church from within. As Samuel Johnson put it, “Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.”

The church participation of these bitter, apostate women has become nothing more than a power trip—the proof being they’ll burn the Church to the ground sending souls to damnation if they don’t get their way.

I’ve never been able to understand why some poor souls have such strong allegiance to an institution that hates them and to a religion that our patriot hero Tom Paine rightly termed “the most dishonorable belief against the character of the Divinity, the most destructive to morality and the peace and happiness of man, that ever was propagated since man began to exist.”

Catholicism started as a heresy. So one heresy more or less.

These women seem to be Cathars not Catholics.

Fewer men are coming forward for ordination because men are normally not enthusiastic about joining Club Fag. Fifty years ago I was part of a Catholic volunteer group that worked among poor people in Appalachia. There was a clerical “vocations director” attached to the group. But while most of the volunteers were normal healthy young men, the vocations director made a bee-line for the one guy in our group was was obviously queer, hoping to get a recruit for the priesthood. Normal men are aware of what’s going on, and stay away.

The modern Catholic Church is really a very Protestant Church. Just another sect among many. They’re dying to have homosexual marriage, priestesses and all the other little heresies that most modern churches have. Comes off as very demonic in the way these sects try to completely ignore the Holy Bible. But there are still good priests and bishops, good pastors in many Protestant sects, that will keep the Faith alive. Whatever it is, I’ve seen broken people open a Bible, go to Church, and save their lives, become solid human beings. It actually works. There’s something to this Christianity thing.

Define “Hell”.

“Religion” (In the Occident) is a creation by men, in order to hedge their bets.

Pascal’s Gambit is an explanation of “Dualistic” fear, birthed from an egoistical view of the universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager

This is understandable and provides comfort to many people in their day to day lives.

At some point, folks who dig deep and want answers, are confused at the idea of an “Indifferent God”. Hemmingway’s suicide note, was in “A Farewell To Arms”. He could save those ants, burning alive on that log and realized that he didn’t not like, or, like the ants, then let them burn.

The “Indifferent God” thing is explained away with specious aphorisms, predictable shibboleths and meretricious, nebulous reasoning designed to hopefully change the subject.

Why is that cute little 7 year old girl dying of cancer?
Why are Benjamin Netanyahu and Larry Fink leading long, rich, happy lives while murdering in person and by proxy, so many?

Why isn’t “God” doing something about all of this suffering?

The answers, if there are any, are NOT from an “infallible” Progressive, homo pope from the Occident, but, maybe in Oriental pursuits of mysticism and Karma.

The Pope will cover for homo priests and send them back into the flock, to fuck your little boys up the ass.

In the Orient, they are sure, you will come back, and be that little boy, getting fucked up the ass.

God may be indifferent, but, the Universe is a harsh taskmaster.

Those Christians , like Anglin, who cherry pick the moralty of an epileptic who believed the end of the world was imminent. If you take Paul’s calling the act of male penetrative of another male and abomination refers to the same thing we call gay today?
If you believe in this anachrism, may I ask if you ever have sex with your wife cowboy style? If so, you are guilty of the same abomination. The abomination is that the man must always be on top. Any bottom gay man, or any man who let’s a woman ride him, is an abomination to the SOCIAL order, NOT to GOD’S law.
This is why Christian sex was man on top missionary until the 60’s.

Democracy in the Catholic Church is indeed a hilarious concept. They should have voted down the Inquisition.

that’s actually your problem: you’ve never been able to understand, not the problem of the Church, the priesthood or the christians.

Please, stop associating the Cathars to these hysteric demons. I’ve been currently living in this very place, south of France, for more than 20 years, and you should know that Cathars were never apostates, they were destroyed for political reasons, even the Church is more and more admitting it.

“God is a democracy” is the stupidest idea ever.

Actually Christian God *is* a democracy of sorts, namely a trinity (and I agree, it is stupid). But in any case, women are not asking for godhood, just for equal access to roles in the church which is merely an institution and bureaucracy of entirely earthly origin.

Anglican church allows female priests, female bishops even, even though it follows the same Bible that other Christians do so apparently it can be squared with the dogma without too much difficulty. It’s way past time for the Catholic church to do the same.

You are falling for a modern heresy. Reread St Paul and you’ll see he unequivocally condemns homosexuality, whether between men or women. Christ himself specifically states that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s all there in black and white. If you’re looking for loopholes, you’re doing a poor job. Homosexuality wasn’t unheard of at the founding of the Church, but now, 2,000 years later you geniuses have found what everyone before you didn’t? Come on. Just join a different religion if you can’t control yourself.

I’ve actually read the Holy Bible, I’ve never come across any commandments forbidding different sexual positions between a husband and wife. There are many condemnations of homosexuality. Anyone who knows how to read can see it for himself.

“Deus sive Natura” was Baruch de Spinoza´s formulation;
and yes, he got excommunicated exmazzified for it.
– These harpyes have been around for some time – the Holy Catholic and Apostolic
Church seems to be pulling up tents in Europe, like every corporation too big
to fail.

The Catholic church and all these other ancient religions most of them are made up bullshit (Thank you George Carlin)…Ya this jew guy rose from the dead, this angel looking human with wings on his back will protect me, this little goon with horns on his head hates me, a jew talking to a burning bush, a yid splitting the red sea, etc. (What kind of drugs were these jews on back then?) Why isn’t anyone today doing these things? Of course all these religions were started thousands of years ago and were based on even older religions before them. Plus Christianity (whether the Catholic or Protestant variety) like Judaism and Islam has out lived its usefulness for most people but not all, it no longer fulfills a deep inner need to believe in something whatever that something is. I guess today the beliefs are in science and technology for the most part.

Graham, along with American Christians and HBD, giggle with hideous glee at images like this.

this is so painful to watch. give them back their childhoods. https://t.co/IXqxsstWS9

— missfalasteenia (@missfalsteenia) November 24, 2024

Nice point about celibacy. Not an ancient thing. Most people don’t know this.

I’m sure you can find reasons to hate homosexuality that don’t just stand on the say-so of authority figures or on how old it is. Those aren’t the measures of truth. If they were then we’d still believe the earth is flat and disease is caused by bad humours. Think for yourself.

In Babylon, the churches had official prostitutes of both sexes. In lieu of offerings. Built them some lovely ziggurats.

And moreover, you gained extra holy cachet by putting in a few nights at the local temple yourself.

True Christianity follows ‘natural law’. The rectum isn’t a sex organ, so natural law tells us it shouldn’t be used for one. Christianity teaches homosexuality is wrong because many disordered people need to be told how to live properly. Pagans who follow natural law might not get into heaven, but they will find their lives here on earth much healthier and more successful.

I don’t think the Babylonians called their temples “churches”. Pagan practices, such as “temple prostitution” were pretty disgusting and are part of what led to their destruction. The Hebrews of the time were one of the few tribes who weren’t as degenerate as their neighbors. The original Romans, although they didn’t worship the One True God, also disdained temple prostitution, homosexuality and child sacrifice and is probably partially responsible for their military success.

True Christianity follows ‘natural law’. The rectum isn’t a sex organ, so natural law tells us it shouldn’t be used for one.

Did you know that animals also practice anal sex, even though one would expect them to be guided by ‘natural law’ alone? Orangutans, gorillas, macaques all do it. Male lions have anal sex with each other. Dolphins too, probably, because dolphins are just all-around perverts. Orangutans stick fingers up each other bums… and this is all natural behaviour, unless you think that Jews corrupted them too.

Imo they would be kahtlek cabal cons, doing distraction, to pump ‘catholic’ bs, and distract from further ‘covid’ or similar schemes the cons are planning, same as ‘election’ bs, so people fail to stop them. ‘kathlek’ and jesus con part of cabal he-brew religion and ‘state schemes.

If they weren’t cons, they would be fighting ‘law cons threats, in-migration, ‘covid’ tyrany, something that matters, not pushing snivel kathlek bs.

Only when kathlek and krisjun and jew religions are destroyed, and ‘state’ and ‘court cons shut down, would there be chance of future, though late now.

Failure to share info on what matters, ourselves, where we live, lets the con’s and their jabber dominate.

You’ve been taken in by degenerates (maybe you’re one yourself). The rectum isn’t designed to be penetrated by the male sex organ. The male and female sex organs are amazingly designed to fit together. That is the function of these organs. Not the function of the rectum, which is used to expel disgusting waste from the body. The rectum is a filthy place and you should keep your sex organ, and face, away from it. This should have been explained to you when you were a young man, but it’s never too late. Get yourself a good Bible, read the New Testament, and you can be cured of this disgusting habit. God wants you to repent. Try it out, you’ll feel much better.

Ezra makes clear that more exactly the Hebes hoodwinked Kyros the Great
(by their own admission the maschiach!) into building them a
“second” temple by claiming that of course they were worshipping
the right god, yayayayah.

Nothing “admitted” in the decade prior to Vatican II or at any time since the council has any theological merit and seldom any historical merit either.

If the Albigensians and their pestilent heresy, infected as it was by Jewish and Islamic doctrinal elements, hadn’t been wiped from the face of the earth seven centuries ago, today’s ruling Jews would be according them a place of honor in the LGBTQ+ pantheon.

I don’t wanna hear it. “Natural law” doesn’t exist, at least not the bastardized version of it you believe in. A better case against homosexuality can be made than one based on mystical “laws” and implying some god or whatever out there is dictating a bunch of moral and ethical standards to the world.

Hatred of the Catholic Christianity and wishing to subvert it is about the most stupid and evil thing one can do. Hatred of Orthodox Christianity and wishing to subvert it is a close second. The close third is hatred of Protestant Christianity and wishing to subvert it. Unfortunately this hatred and subversion of Christianity is making the world a worse place, not better or even neutral but something different. The Great Schism between Catholicism and Orthodoxy in 1057AD was bad. The Protestant Revolt in 1517AD was worse. However the two World Wars starting in 1914AD was worse than the previous two combined. The world especially the Western World has declined significantly since 1914AD because of the decline in Christianity. If you think differently then you are just a useful idiot for the powers that be.

There is no shortage of priests. This is an old mackerel thrown out in every discussion of Catholicism that gets into the secular consciousness. There are plenty of priests for all of the necessary functions and there are many more young men who want to be priests, many more than are accepted in the seminaries.

There is a shortage of Catholic couples who follow Catholic teachings on the duty to have as many children as God sends them. Priests and parishioners come out of families that are generous with children.

It’s tough to live as a faithful Catholic, but when eternity begins to beckon, a Catholic realizes how comforting it is to die as one.

Women jockeying for the RC priesthood is not a new thing. After Roncalli (john XXIII) opened all the windows and the priests and nuns flew out of the rectories, monasteries and convents like a bunch of migrating birds headed for Florida, there has been a small but loud voice for female ordination. Much of this has come from hardcore feminists nuns who may or may not be lesbians. Catholic nuns as a demographic, are the most highly educated groups in American society. For all their education, they refused to recognize or appreciate tradition. Like many other sectors in society, they live by the tail wagging the dog ethos. “I’m gonna change yo ass, no matter who much you fight, scream, cry or holler.” The same tactic can be said of Catholics who support abortion rights and the gay marriage. It’s an all or nothing game. Pope Frankie the Heretical hasn’t helped much on this point (one of many). The bait of a female diaconate is not going to satisfy the blood-thirsty nature of these piranhas. Many RCs have gone over to the Eastern Orthodox church where the issue of female ordination is a non-issue for the most part. Most Orthodox priests are married guys with families. You have monks & nuns, who would probably compare – for the most part – to a semi-cloistered order in the RC church. Priests’ wives are very influential people. If she is an empathetic person, many (especially women) may approach her, before going to the priest. It’s a different ethos because both the laity and the clergy have great love and respect for the continuity of tradition. That’s the reason they are Orthodox Christians. Hardcore feminists whether nuns, lesbians, thespians, CEOs Karens or blue haired freaks tatooed & pierced from their toes to their tits are out for a power grab. It’s not about whether one “could do the job adequately.” The priesthood, whether RC or Orthodox is far more than one’s intellectual ability. Enuf said.

Thank you. However, Catholicism in Japan seems generally alright.

The Orthodox Church, though, has the best site for a church in Tokyo. On the top of a hill near the centre of the city. I had assumed that it was a fake wedding church (many of those here), but went in to ask a member if it is a real church. He replied that it is. It is a modest but beautiful building.

The diocesan Catholic Cathedral is also on a hill, but not far up, and is an aluminium monstrosity as far as the external architecture goes. You may check for yourself by an image search.

Several of the Catholic churches closer to sea-level are quite nice, as are many of those in regional cities and towns.

are out for a power grab.

Naah, just out for destruction.