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Do you know who these two race-hustlers are? If you pay attention, you know that Black Lives Matter co-founder Shaun King (a.k.a. Talcum X, Martin Luther Cream, or W.E.B. De Fraud) and lawyer Lee Merritt are Morehouse College buddies who have been partners in anti-white, anti-cop agitation for upwards of two decades.

On Tuesday, King posted a leaked video that immediately went viral of “Just a Jogger” Ahmaud Arbery, whose family Merritt represents. Dissatisfied with the results of a Waycross, Georgia, D.A.’s decision in February not to arrest two armed white men involved in chasing and fatally shooting Arbery, whom they suspected of burglary, someone in possession of the clip somehow got it into social media master King’s hands. King’s post of the purloined video has racked up more than 7 million views, whipping up instant, knee-jerk outrage from LeBron James to Whoopi Goldberg to Joe Biden to some of the same ConInc virtue-signaling simps who threw the Covington boys under the bus.

Gee, who could have leaked the video to King, such that it “emerged” out of nowhere and rocketed into the media stratosphere?

If you pay attention, you will recall that Shaun King and Lee Merritt teamed up to perpetrate the Sherita Dixon-Cole hate crime hoax of 2018. Dixon-Cole, who is black, falsely accused innocent white Texas state trooper Daniel Hubbard of raping her during a traffic stop. Her lawyer was Merritt. King “broke” the viral story and everything was going swimmingly until law enforcement released the 2-hour bodycam video showing…no such thing.

Oops.

The admitted liar was not prosecuted based on a technicality. Incredibly, King secured a job with the Harvard-affiliated Fair Punishment Project, which in part conducts research to prevent wrongful convictions and went on to headline the Innocence Project’s 2019 annual gathering. Merritt received no sanctions and went on to perpetrate more frauds and hoaxes.

If you pay attention, you will recall that Shaun King and Lee Merritt also teamed up to perpetrate the Jazmine Barnes hate crime hoax of 2019. Seven-year-old Jazmine, who is black, was slain in a drive-by shooting in Texas. Merritt was a legal advisor to the Barnes family. King used his mighty Twitter platform to spread conspiracy theories of a racist white truck-driving shooter and defame an innocent man named Robert Cantrell, whose family faced death threats as a result of the witch hunt. The real shooting suspects were black thugs, prompting King to swiftly attempt to cover his tracks and claim phony credit for tipping off the police.

The fiasco prompted several of his old SJW allies to resurrect charges of mishandling past fundraisers. King and Merritt continue to be dogged by criticism of their financial exploits. Last fall, Merritt represented some relatives of Atatiana Jefferson, a black woman reportedly shot by a white Forth Worth police officer while inside her home. King swooped in with a GoFundMe campaign for his college BFF’s client that Jefferson’s father called unnecessary, unauthorized, and exploitative.

Let me refresh your memory of more of Shaun King’s greatest race fraud hits, which have been duly noted not just watchdogs on the Blue Lives Matter Right, but some of King’s own former colleagues on the Black Lives Matter Left:

In 2014, King promoted the anti-cop “hands up, don’t shoot” lie debunked by none other than the Obama Justice Department, yet he still doesn’t care about the truth. “I’m not going to parse evidence or make some complex technical argument that Michael Brown did or didn’t have his hands up,” he defiantly retorted. “To me, it doesn’t matter if he did or he didn’t. It never has.”

…In 2015, King gloried in the wrongful rape convictions of former Oklahoma City police officer Daniel Holtzclaw, whose flawed case and forensic errors led six internationally renowned scientists to call for a retrial. He has failed to follow up because, of course, the truth doesn’t fit his narrative.

The “journalist” also maintained the same obstinate stance after his disgraceful sliming of football star Peyton Manning in 2016, when he attempted to ride the #MeToo publicity wave by recycling — and woefully misinterpreting — a 13-year-old court filing regarding a settlement with a female trainer who had claimed she was sexually harassed, and then changed her story seven years later. Instead of admitting error, he played victim.

Which means brings me to the Number 3 reason to doubt the Ahmaud “Just a Jogger” narrative: Benjamin Crump. Merritt, a former intern of Johnnie Cochran, credits Crump as a mentor. The two were honored as “BLK Geniuses” by The Grio. Crump is also on Ahmaud Arbery’s legal team; the two have been making the media rounds together this week.

If you pay attention, you know that Crump is the camera-lovin’ avenging lawyer for the families of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown who rocketed to fame perpetuating the “Hands up, don’t shoot” lie. He’s also representing nine black women in federal civil lawsuit seeking to cash in on the wrongful convictions of Daniel Holtzclaw:

Those clients include a convicted felon who preposterously described Holtzclaw as a “short, black man” when he’s 6’1,” half-Japanese, and pale and a convicted felon who denied seven times she had been the victim of any inappropriate police conduct — until a sex-crimes detective informed her about the Holtzclaw investigation and she changed her story to claim that he had forced her to expose her breasts.

Crump also represents the troubled young prostitute and drug user with a violent criminal record who called Holtzclaw a “hot cop” before accusing him of rape — months after Jannie Ligons’ charges were publicized and Holtzclaw’s name and face widely disseminated. The teen’s mom had filed a missing persons report and assault and battery complaint against her daughter on the day Holtzclaw encountered her and searched her purse. The Oklahoma City police department’s crime lab identified a minute amount of what it characterized as “epithelial cell” DNA from this accuser on Holtzclaw’s uniform pants — the lone piece of indirect forensic evidence found out of 17 alleged crime scenes, which became the prosecution’s inaccurately portrayed “smoking gun” in the case.

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Now, King, Merritt, and Crump–three of the most prominent, anti-white hate crime hoaxers in America–are at the heart of the Ahmaud “Just A Jogger” narrative. Thanks to their latest joint campaign, the New York Times reported yesterday, “Gregory McMichael, 64, and his son Travis McMichael, 34, were each charged with murder and aggravated assault and booked into a jail in coastal Glynn County, Ga.”

King pimped the requisite GoFundMe, which has already reached more than twice its goal and raised $200,000-plus for Arbery’s family.

He also posted the following threats to the McMichaels on Facebook (which, as you know, has banned Unz.com):

Message: Swallow the narrative…or else.

Will the real vigilantes please stand up?

 
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  1. What helps with all this, Mrs. Malkin, is NOT BEING HOOKED UP TO TV. It’s been 20 years and counting. Well, I mean is, it would help if it were not just me and a few others. Paying for a TV signal in any manner is just encouraging these people.

    John Prine opines:

    “Blow up your TV…”

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    Achmed,

    When the great James Stockdale was preparing to bail out over North Vietnam, he happily told himself, "I'm leaving the world of technology and entering the world of Epictetus!"

    Take care

    JBGP
    , @Adûnâi
    What even is a TV? Who owns a TV? Who watches cable news? All propaganda you need is on the Internet.

    Last time I checked, the Internet is awash with love for Negroes and transvestites, and with hatred towards Aryans and the DPR of Korea.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    John Denver's cover was more comprehensible.
  2. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course Biden had to jump in accusing the two men of cold-blooded murder. Other opportunistic politicians will follow suit. What the actual facts are don’t matter when something can be misrepresented and hyped up for some advantage, financial or political. Obama did the same with his massive involvement in the Trayvon incident. The false accusers are never held responsible for their actions which only breeds more of the same. Looks like we’ll get dragged through another circus yet again even as the black murder rate continues apace, mostly ignored.

    • Replies: @J1234
    Only Joe Biden could accuse others of killing in "cold blood" without having access to all the evidence while at the same time urging others to consider the lack of evidence in the crime that he himself is accused of. Ha Ha! Stay in your basement and copy some more speeches from British politicians, Joe!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/06/ahmaud-arbery-death-biden-harris-abrams-react-georgia-killing/5174173002/

    , @Russ
    More video seems to have emerged of the jogger jogging out of some house, prior to the confrontation:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/oopsie-ajc-video-appears-show-ahmaud-arbery-entering-home-mcmichaels-street-running-spotted-neighbor/
    , @Russ
    Jim Goad notes that "jogging while black" is not quite as dangerous as attempting to wrest a loaded gun from another man.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-lynching-of-a-black-jogger/
  3. KenH says:

    I’ve got a bad feeling the McMichael’s are going to be railroaded and offered as a sacrifice to the howling mobs of hate crazed blacks and self hating white leftists. The prosecution team will likely be leftist SJW’s who stack the jury with blacks, minorities and white leftists. The biased and sensational media coverage almost ensures a fair trial is impossible since they’re already being convicted by the media, both leftist and Coninc.

    But if by some miracle they do get acquitted then there will be pressure on Trump to have Barr file federal civil rights charges. It’s an election year and orange man desperately wants the black vote. But if he were do do that I hope he knows he’ll lose enough white voters to ensure he loses the election.

    George W. Bush pulled this type of stunt back in 1992 when he sicced the DOJ on the Los Angeles police officers involved in the Rodney King incident. It didn’t win him any love or political support from blacks who voted for Bill Clinton in massive numbers.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman, Ace
    • Replies: @KenH

    George W. Bush pulled this type of stunt back in 1992
     
    Should read George Bush Sr.
    , @follyofwar
    Since we are less then 6 months from the election, KenH, it is very doubtful if there will be a trial before then - assuming that the two white alleged shooters don't take a plea. With defense lawyers stalling tactics, and the courts backed up, many cases don't go to trial for two years - and that's not even counting C19 further gumming up the system.

    For example, the deranged white man who killed 11 Jewish worshippers at the Pittsburgh synagogue in Oct. 2018 has yet to go to trial.

    , @sense
    Why should they be acquitted?


    A black family just murdered a security guard at a Family Dollar. They need to be in jail for the rest of their lives or get the death penalty if available in that state.

    The same goes for these two men.

    It is not ok in society to take the law or what we perceive as justice into our own hands. It is too much hate and not enough justice. Either there is a such thing as civil obedience or there is not. What if we all walked around with guns killing people based on our emotions or ill will.

    Have a nice day
  4. Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn’t worth my time to read this article.

    • Replies: @Realist
    Here is an article that should satisfy your burning desire for the truth.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435
    , @Blue Juice
    The truth is there...if you know where to look.
    1.) Ahmaud "Maude" Arbery was a 2-time convicted thief who couldn't hold down a job even though he was 25-years old. In fact there is no record of him ever having a full-time job but plenty of run-ins with the law, indulging in an expensive marijuana habit as well as threatening his father's side of the family.
    2.) However his family, extortion team and the MSM claim that the deceased was on his "daily jog". Wearing a dirty white t-shirt, cargo pants and Timberlands.
    3.) After weeks of denials his family has finally admitted that he was seen on security video rummaging through a house under rehab. But that he was not committing a burglary but was "interested in construction"! Apparently the rehab project was so interesting to an unemployed thief and "aspiring electrician" that he had to stop in the middle of his run to walk 40 feet off the street and onto and into the property of some stranger.
    4.) When confronted by a neighbor and told that police were on the way (and then identified by the McMichaels as the offender who fled the scene of burglary earlier in the week), Arbery continued on his daily jog...through someone's yard and onto a dead-end street! The McMichaels and an unknown second driver with a cellphone camera were in pursuit.
    5.) When stopped the first-time Arbery turned around and ran onto Holmes Drive where the second confrontation happened and Arbery charged, punched in the head and attempted to grab a semi-auto shotgun away from a legally armed man (Travis McMichael). Arbery was shot in the hand and again in the chest. At no time did anyone hear Arbery yell "help or stop harassing me".
    6. ) Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police? Was it murder or self-defense? If it was 1st degree murder why didn't the McMichaels simply shoot him from the truck or run him over? Those are the facts...you be the judge...
    , @anonymous
    I agree. Headline promises a lot, delivers little, which is unusual for Malkin.

    The fact that the publicity for this shooting is being supplied by some disreputable hustlers does not change what actually happened.

    Supposedly, the shooter did not actually see the deceased commit a crime (suspecting and seeing are not the same thing) and so did not have cause to (citizen's) arrest him. There is film, which may show that the victim of the shooting did not display a weapon or attempt to use deadly force. IF THIS IS TRUE, and the investigation supports prosecution, these men should be prosecuted.
    , @Rand0
    Listen to the 911 call before the incident happened.
    , @Half-Jap
    Exactly my thoughts... Other evidence and articles notwithstanding, this is not helpful. Present what goes to the heart of the matter and then hit the hustlers, or you only appear as a rabid partisan.
    , @Johnny Smoggins
    If I had to guess, I'd say Ms. Malkin is used to Breitbart and Fox News types who eat the shit up, but are as incapable of critical thinking as CNN viewers or NYT readers.
    , @Two Ten
    Just out for a jog, 12 miles from home, wearing denim shorts and unlaced boots. That's a hell of a way to run a marathon.
    , @Velvet65
    Did you miss something? Did you miss the part about King and Merritt being involved in other hoaxes, and their obvious hatred of White people and police? Have you since come back to read any of the comments? Sounds like there's more to this story, and this is only the beginning! I think sometimes SJW don't want the truth, just want their hatred or racial biased stroked!
  5. So, you determine the guilt/innocence in a murder case based on the advocates for one of the parties?
    How about focusing on the evidence itself?

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    So, you determine the guilt/innocence in a murder case based on the advocates for one of the parties?
     
    Refreshingly, looks like she did not posit that. Maybe my skim missed it though.

    The shooters are dirtbag fools, and so are Talcum X & company. If, as NYT published, there's video of Arbery/Avery (long story) burgling the neighborhood, Talc's dance will be predictable but fun.

    Anyway, what pic ya think is more precious—PromKingArbery, or SkiKingTrayvon?
    , @450.org
    Agreed. The video is an indictment in and of itself. If this jogger was a burglar, would he be jogging down the road right into the waiting clutches of these two vigilantes? No, he would be running from them and not in the middle of the road. This is murder. Not manslaughter. Murder. Second degree. I care not who is representing this poor kid and his parents. Justice is blind about that and should be.

    Fyi, Black Lives Matter is bullshit and Shaun King is a race-baiting scumbag. That doesn't change the facts of this case. No way the black kid jogging in this video is a burglar and sorry, I refuse to take the McMichael's word for it. Of course they'll say anything at this point to save their skin.

    , @Niebelheim
    Good point. Even a broken clock is right twice a day
    , @EndTheFed
    So the article is devoid of evidence. I watched the video and this is what I see; Everyone will see the train wreck differently but WOW mistakes were made. First, don't put yourself in the vigilante position for a property crime. It might not look good if events move sideways (as in this case). Ahmaud apparently runs to the right side of the pickup. I guess self defense case will depend on witness testimony. It's probably better to keep running than wrestle with someone armed. If you do wrestle pay attention to the business end of the weapon (You have more leverage than the shooter) and get the weapon or yourself out of the way instead of trying to punch. Also, not Hollywood. 3 shots and still attack, though not for long. Shots appear to be point blank during the altercation which will probably favor the shooter self defense.
  6. I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?
     
    That question presumes guilt. It's circular, and hardly empathic.

    An innocent man has every instinctive reason to be pissed at armed accusers, however dangerous it may be. I'd tell them to F themselves. The average innocent black man (theoretical) might go farther, with cause.

    I don't think Arbery wasn't burgling, but him being pissed at the beer-gut clods weighs not against him in the search for guilt. I've been disgusted by acquaintances who through slop gun handling endangered others at a firing range. Adding strangers, intent, and false criminal accusations would go beyond. But whether the accusation was true, they screwed the pooch.

    I suspect this will turn out much like the Zimmerman mess, with many whites unable to admit that both parties were asses. The shooters here were worse than Zimmerman, and I doubt they'll be acquitted.
    , @Gleimhart Mantooso

    He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?
     
    Jogging supplies.
    , @padre
    Of course he should stop, because if you're innocent, you have nothing to fear from the police, especially if you're black,right!But than again, blacks and Latinos have it in their blood, they are all rapists and murderers, according to Trump!
    , @jsigur
    You had me till you started making blanket statements about "what all Negroes do" something that immediately defines you as a race hater and will undermine the rest of your likely fair points. Once defined as a white supremacist (which has been made equivalent to race-hater) 90% of the public will ignore anything you say, fairly or not.
    It's been a losing habit for years now, this defamation habit we got; yes, I know whites are defamed but that is with deep state support (for it has an anti-white agenda) which then fools the public into believing the blasphemy; without that support, our unkind words become signs that we are Nazis and holocaust deniers, both topics not allowed for discussion in the MSM and thus we lose, end of conversation
    , @Neoconned
    I haven't really been following this but is there photographic or fingerprint evidence that he was attempting to burglarize something?
    , @the shadow
    Just to make it clear. Some racist goon stopping me on the street has nio expectation that I have any obligatioin to be compliant with whatever demands he makes., Indeed, merely making sucvh demands when he has not authrotu to expet comliance is in itself a villation of any citizen's civil rights. SO IT'S THE PERSON MAKING THAT DEMAND AND SEEKING TO ENFORCE IT WHO IS THE AGRRESSOR, AND HIS VICTIM HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST SUCH EFFRONTERY.
    , @Craig Nelsen

    But, Negroes never want to cooperate,
     
    But [guilty] Negroes, [like guilty Caucasians] never want to cooperate.
    , @epm54338
    What is your source for the pre-video activities of this incident as well as Arbery's criminal background? Thanks.
    , @Stewart M Schwartz
    "He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens" IF YOU ATTEMPT TO STOP ME AND YOU ARE NOT A COP,I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO KILL YOU. "If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?" IF YOU ATTEMPT TO STOP ME AND YOU ARE NOT A COP,I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO KILL YOU. "He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived" IF YOU ATTEMPT TO STOP ME AND YOU ARE NOT A COP,I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO KILL YOU.
    , @Skeptikal
    "because he was non-compliant"

    "Noncompliant" with whom?

    A pair of armed rednecks in a truck?

    This is truly an Orwellian word and idea.

    You don't like something, call the police.

    Don't expect your fellow citizens to be "compliant" with you.

    The police always state: Do not touch another person. Call the police.
    , @Boldizar

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?
     
    Are you serious? Say I am dark skinned; If I came across you and held you hostage at gunpoint while accusing you of one thing or another, are you just going to wait for the police? Citizens have no rights to hold each other captive or threaten them, let alone with fucking weapons. I'm tempted to bet you are also of the type that thinks current lockdowns in order to prevent the spread of disease are treading on civil liberties, but I cannot say for sure. Sounds like you think "Negros" have different rights.
  7. You are clearly a hate-monger, Michelle. Stop smearing this innocent man.

    • Troll: schnellandine
    • Replies: @duffdad
    Are you being sarcastic??? I hope so, if not, you're another one that does not care about the facts - and they will come out!!!
    , @Maddaugh
    Yes I agree he is an innocent man. I am sure the facts will come out showing he wanted to be a dentist or even a Neuro Surgeon. I bet evidence exists that he applied to Harvard Medical School and was accepted notwithstanding an expanding criminal file. How do you expect the man to pay his tuition with a regular job ? Its too bad he is now in that happy Ghetto in the sky ! The life of an upstanding young man with a promising future in science has been cut short.
    , @Patsy from Maine
    How dare you call Michelle Malkin a hate-monger! Ms. Malkin has been anything but a hate-monger and has a record of being tough but fair. Patriot1776 how do you know Ahmaud Arbery is an innocent man? Where you there? No you weren't! Nor was Joe Biden or Whoopie Goldberg or Oprah Winfrey!
    What a bunch of big mouth publicity seekers! Much of what was recorded was out of range of camera! The facts will come out at trial!
    The accused are innocent until proven guilty! Or are you totally out of touch with American laws?
    It's the Fake News media trying their best to stir up hatred on 2 white men that seems to be causing all the trouble! No one knows the facts just yet! Allow the facts to be presented at trial. Then make the call.
  8. Thanks for the info on these “geniuses.” Had not tracked their activities. One to file.

    • Replies: @mark green
    Thanx for the photo. Revealing. Watch the MSM attempt to ignore pertinent background info about 'jogger' Ahmaud Arbery. Omissions of this kind are routine and orchestrated. It's reminiscent of how the MSM characterized career criminal, Rodney King, as an innocent (black) 'motorist' before the LA race riots ensued. The toxic, anti-white narrative continues.

    This latest incident is actually notable for one thing: white-on-black crime remains relatively rare compared to the reverse: black-on-white violence. But watch the (((MSM))) ignore that persistent fact.

    Here's a recent incident of abhorrent criminality that didn't rock the journalistic world (or stir national 'outrage'). Why? It doesn't comport with the anti-white agenda.

    https://news.yahoo.com/father-throws-one-old-daughter-144853088.html

    , @Kronos
    Sounds like a potential Trayvon Martin retro-remix...

    https://youtu.be/-1qju6V1jLM
    , @MrTea
    I am reminded of that movie quite often when I peruse the "news". I was heartened a few years ago when I met some teens who knew of the film and they "got" the idea, as it relates the the nearly "pod people" narrative that is being fed to the public.
  9. It is extremely rare that a White kills a black in cold blood…vice versa not so much.

    • Replies: @Blip Blop
    Take a look at b-on-w crimes, and imagine for a moment if those roles were reversed. Within a month we'd have martial law over it.

    Our lives matter too.
  10. The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?

    Did the other men say something extremely threatening? Why was the shotgun brandished in the first place? Why was one guy out in the open if they thought Arbery had a gun? Were they simply looking for trouble?

    A jury needs to decide (not hysterical leftists and MSM).

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory

    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?
     
    Would you:
    1) Turn to run and hope you are faster than that load of buckshot that will hit you in the back.
    2) Attempt to fight for your life.
    , @JohnP
    Pause the video before it goes out of focus...one of the McMichaels is standing in the middle of the road so Ahmaud goes right to avoid him but he is blocked off again and a struggle ensues
    , @CecilRhodes
    There was also a hammer seemingly dropped by the jogger that the video even turns to focus on as driving up the road, before turning the camera back on the three men ahead. Still shots show it to certainly be a hammer, as it also appears that he’s wearing work-style boots and cargo shorts (not exactly jogging gear).
    , @Voice of reason
    Guess the corona experience/kung flu/woo hoo flu/ching chong flu hoax card has been worn out, so time for the lefties and their partners in crime, the msm, to recycle the race card...again. And, of course, without much in the way of facts, save for the ol' "white man/men shot and killed a black guy" while thousands upon thousands of blacks are killing their own. And, oh yeah, before this gets too far down the road, it'll be another, "...it's Trump's fault..." blame game farce.
  11. Having watched the video, it’s clear that Arbery is running AT a stopped pickup truck. Also, he initially runs down the middle of street, then moves to the right side as he gets to the pickup truck, then QUICKLY runs around the front of the truck and attacks McMichaels. The 911 call describes seeing Arbery burgling the home and the caller says that’s it’s an ongoing thing with this guy. His clothes are given as a description.
    Don’t expect justice. Remember Charlottsville.

    • Replies: @Gleimhart Mantooso

    Having watched the video, it’s clear that Arbery is running AT a stopped pickup truck.
     
    No. He was jogging at it.
    , @Two Ten
    Amen.

    A jogger wearing unlaced boots should've been a hint.
  12. I just assumed Biden’s numbers had started slipping among blacks. Must be the TrumpBux

  13. @Longfisher
    Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn't worth my time to read this article.

    Here is an article that should satisfy your burning desire for the truth.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    Thanks for the link--that is why I come here, would never know "the rest of the story" otherwise.
    , @Maddaugh
    What I find curious is how the rich black elite, who once they make it move out far away from the chimp areas, rarely if ever return, dont give a shit about the people they left behind, but suddenly find Jesus and are all so concerned about the poor black man (who wanted to be a Doctor or Dentist) who is a criminal and got shot. Whites, like Biden jump on the same gravy train. Once the drama has been milked these cretins get back to their to their lives of luxury and the black corpse is shit to them and soon forgotten. The poor black man falls for this every time. Does the black man really believe LeBron, Walters, Biden, and other similar characters give a flying fuck about them other than what they can be used for and for how long?. These people are dumb, gullible and do not seem to understand how the world works.
    , @Ace
    That's a choice article you linked to. The money quote from it is:

    As I said in the past, the real lesson of Covington was that Conservatism, Inc. will always side with the liberal establishment over the base they claim to represent when it matters most. [Link removed.]
     
    It's preceded by Ben Shapiro's tweet that criminal charges "are merited." Ben's got it all figured out.
    , @Trickster
    Great research Realist, very thorough. I plan to look at the videos tonight with a bowl of ice cream, chocolate flavour. Ahmaud was clearly a ne'er do well and his family are certainly no God fearing, church going, righteous Christians. The people in his area probably got quite fed up with him and solved the problem.

    As you pointed out if Father and Son are exonerated it will be chimp time as they torch their own area and other black businesses resulting in them having to travel one hour for a bag of milk.

    Once again this is a clear caution to whites to stay away from blacks, black area and black events. Also stay away from whites who think it is cool to associate with blacks. It may well cost you your life and that of your loved ones. These people are pure poison and nothing but trouble. even their own kind move out of the Hood and into a white area first chance they get.
    , @Trickster
    I looked at the Trayvon Martin Hoax video. Man , that culture is really f####d up !
  14. @Longfisher
    Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn't worth my time to read this article.

    The truth is there…if you know where to look.
    1.) Ahmaud “Maude” Arbery was a 2-time convicted thief who couldn’t hold down a job even though he was 25-years old. In fact there is no record of him ever having a full-time job but plenty of run-ins with the law, indulging in an expensive marijuana habit as well as threatening his father’s side of the family.
    2.) However his family, extortion team and the MSM claim that the deceased was on his “daily jog”. Wearing a dirty white t-shirt, cargo pants and Timberlands.
    3.) After weeks of denials his family has finally admitted that he was seen on security video rummaging through a house under rehab. But that he was not committing a burglary but was “interested in construction”! Apparently the rehab project was so interesting to an unemployed thief and “aspiring electrician” that he had to stop in the middle of his run to walk 40 feet off the street and onto and into the property of some stranger.
    4.) When confronted by a neighbor and told that police were on the way (and then identified by the McMichaels as the offender who fled the scene of burglary earlier in the week), Arbery continued on his daily jog…through someone’s yard and onto a dead-end street! The McMichaels and an unknown second driver with a cellphone camera were in pursuit.
    5.) When stopped the first-time Arbery turned around and ran onto Holmes Drive where the second confrontation happened and Arbery charged, punched in the head and attempted to grab a semi-auto shotgun away from a legally armed man (Travis McMichael). Arbery was shot in the hand and again in the chest. At no time did anyone hear Arbery yell “help or stop harassing me”.
    6. ) Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police? Was it murder or self-defense? If it was 1st degree murder why didn’t the McMichaels simply shoot him from the truck or run him over? Those are the facts…you be the judge…

    • Thanks: Cowtown Rebel
    • Troll: Chris Mallory
    • Replies: @Sean

    Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police?
     
    All Arbery's troubles are over now, the McMichaels' are just begining and they are going to be pauperised by this. Trespassing is all he was guilty of, and the extended chase and blocking his way with a shotgun pointed at him then altering position when he tried to go the other way makes it look like an attempt to stage a 'stand your ground as a legally armed citizen' scenario, with the soon-to-be-deceased coming a straight into the double barrels and stopping rather than keep going under the assumption no man is going to choose to be justifiably homicided. The court will take into account the context of how that scenario came about as has been made clear in recent murder convictions in citizen shootings.

    The McMichaels now realise the definition of mentally ill behaviour is what is maladaptive, as they obviously did not before that such people are not that thin on the ground, and accordingly to point a loaded gun at someone behaving strangely (black man oddly dressed running through a strange white neighbourhood was not playing with full deck) in the expectation that he will behave rationally is a big gamble with the odds far from long ones life will be flushed down the toilet. If pointing a gun was a solution cops would never need call for back up or carry cuffs, batons, and tasers.
    ----

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/12/23/2F4376BD00000578-3357753-image-a-2_1449961753416.jpg

    The broad-faced and burly half Japanese Holtzclaw looks distinctly unwhite and dangerous. He seems to have had a thing for non consenting old black bodies and gone for increasingly elderly ones as his spree progressed culminating in the riskiest when he swooped on a law abiding 57 year old woman, who promptly made a complaint. While his sentence is excessive, the totality of the evidence (included DNA) and testimony against him (including someone with no criminal record) was far from weak. Being sexually interested in much older women is a surprisingly common fetish if a study of the stats from adult site searches is any guide.

    , @Trickster
    This article will generate thousands of comments both for and against. Was it murder and in what degree or manslaughter or self defence or...or.....It will come out that this Achmaud was a chronic, habitual, career thief who became a nuisance as a result of his exploits and continually got away with his exploits. It gets to a point where people get fed up with these characters and take them out regardless of the consequences. One cannot imagine the rage at having constant breakins and items stolen. When I lived in the Third World, every door and window had to have an iron grill, bolted into cement and with hardened steel padlocks, everything had to be locked up. When washing was done and hung in the sun one had to watch the clothes line with unblinking eyes. Step away for just a second and your laundry would disappear and I am not exaggerating. Leave a bike, toys out and it was stolen. At times the thefts would take an amusing turn. One neighbour applying to go to the US had to submit a stool sample for tests. This was placed in a medical box and left on the front seat of his car. Running inside to get something he returned to find the stool sample GONE. Frustrations build, people get fed up, and perpetrators get capped. Its too bad he had to die !
    , @Two Ten
    Thank you for sharing all of those details.
    , @Thicket
    How do you know any of this? Links? Were you there? Is the UNZ site so important that the local KKK has actually paid you to spread this disinformation? About the only compelling point you made is if the jogger was actually wearing Timberland boots. Otherwise, the answer is NO, and nobody "has to stop" nor even rely on "just waiting for the police". I don't care what anybody thinks this man did by snooping around empty houses or whatever, they had no right to confront him and especially not brandishing firearms.

    Why didn't THEY just follow at a safe distance and "wait for the police"? I have no burden or duty to stop just because you feel lie engaging with me. and this is the root of white privileges which is really white arrogance. And i say this as white man myself who has been affronted too may times by weak people who think they're magically entitled. I have seen this too many times up close.
    , @Female in FL
    Blue, you made Free Republic with this post. Good info, you have buddies in GA?
    , @Skeptikal
    None of this matters.

    Arbery was executed by two rednecks who took the law into their own hands.

    The McMichaels should just have called the police.

    Jesus.
  15. Whereby Ned Beatty’s squeals become magically transmuted into the sounds of a Gregorian Chant for the Unz Crowd.

    • Troll: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Tulip seems familiar with...and perhaps not a little too interested in..."fundament penetrations." Does Rover peg him/her nightly? Do "fundament things" apply to him/her as time goes by?
    , @MrTea
    Do you have a point? Or are you just a pro-grade asshole? Go to MediaMatters where you can commiserate with your fellows.

    I browse this site because it is one of a very few that dare to confront reality, by way of factual material scrupulously erased by the corporate brainwashing system maintained by the media corporations. Like this currently relevant items

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/his-name-is-logan-allen-stacks-in-deep-south-two-black-males-murder-17-year-old-white-teenager/#comment-3861238

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/his-name-is-antonio-angel-santiago-as-nation-deifies-ahmaud-aubrey-we-remember-th

    This site also has significant historical research some of it appearing nowhere else. I cite for instance Mr. Unz scholarship regarding the true story of the disposition of the assets seized from the interned Japanese-Americans.
  16. i agree with longfisher.

    i know there is more to this story. i read some of it elsewhere. i was hoping for more in depth coverage here in unz. there usually is.

    not this time.

    there is a reason that lawyers are not allowed to bring up a defendants past actions in a case.

    that should apply here.

    or at the least, the story and headline should be more in line with how these two persons are more like al sharpton and alton maddox from the tawana brawley case from years ago.

    there was virtually no mention of the jogger story at all.

    this is bad journalism. mostly clickbait.

    too bad. the unz is usually better than that.

    • Disagree: anti_barabas_ite
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    ... there is a reason that lawyers are not allowed to bring up a defendants past actions in a case.

    that should apply here.
     

    That's not the point of Michelle Malkin's column here, Mr. Blooger. The article is mostly about two hate-mongers, Shaun King and Lee Merritt, who have gotten people killed and caused who knows how many billions of dollars in property damage from the fall-out from their hate-mongering.

    Mrs. Malkin probably could have picked a better title, as you wrote, but that's a minor point, IMO. This is journalism about bad journalism, as in the promotion of the narrative, no matter how many lies must be told. Most journalism is bad journalism, keeping us up with the narrative (or not, in my case).

  17. @KenH
    I've got a bad feeling the McMichael's are going to be railroaded and offered as a sacrifice to the howling mobs of hate crazed blacks and self hating white leftists. The prosecution team will likely be leftist SJW's who stack the jury with blacks, minorities and white leftists. The biased and sensational media coverage almost ensures a fair trial is impossible since they're already being convicted by the media, both leftist and Coninc.

    But if by some miracle they do get acquitted then there will be pressure on Trump to have Barr file federal civil rights charges. It's an election year and orange man desperately wants the black vote. But if he were do do that I hope he knows he'll lose enough white voters to ensure he loses the election.

    George W. Bush pulled this type of stunt back in 1992 when he sicced the DOJ on the Los Angeles police officers involved in the Rodney King incident. It didn't win him any love or political support from blacks who voted for Bill Clinton in massive numbers.

    George W. Bush pulled this type of stunt back in 1992

    Should read George Bush Sr.

  18. The Trayvon Martin Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America – https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

    • Replies: @Republic
    That documentary is very good. The complete film is available for free on utube.
    , @Genrick Yagoda
    Thank you for that. That segment on Rachel Jeantal is the woldest expose I've seen. It went on fat too long, but the info on that hoax is incredible.

    And they did not charge one single one of these incredible liars, including Crump.
    , @Bloodleaks
    Can they do a Holtzclaw Hoax video and maybe get that wrongfully convicted man out of prison?
  19. @Realist
    Here is an article that should satisfy your burning desire for the truth.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    Thanks for the link–that is why I come here, would never know “the rest of the story” otherwise.

  20. @fllaart bllooger
    i agree with longfisher.

    i know there is more to this story. i read some of it elsewhere. i was hoping for more in depth coverage here in unz. there usually is.

    not this time.

    there is a reason that lawyers are not allowed to bring up a defendants past actions in a case.

    that should apply here.

    or at the least, the story and headline should be more in line with how these two persons are more like al sharpton and alton maddox from the tawana brawley case from years ago.

    there was virtually no mention of the jogger story at all.

    this is bad journalism. mostly clickbait.

    too bad. the unz is usually better than that.

    … there is a reason that lawyers are not allowed to bring up a defendants past actions in a case.

    that should apply here.

    That’s not the point of Michelle Malkin’s column here, Mr. Blooger. The article is mostly about two hate-mongers, Shaun King and Lee Merritt, who have gotten people killed and caused who knows how many billions of dollars in property damage from the fall-out from their hate-mongering.

    Mrs. Malkin probably could have picked a better title, as you wrote, but that’s a minor point, IMO. This is journalism about bad journalism, as in the promotion of the narrative, no matter how many lies must be told. Most journalism is bad journalism, keeping us up with the narrative (or not, in my case).

    • Replies: @Hans
    Don't think he's a trying, Achmed. Lots of anxious critters drawn out by this story.
    , @anonymous
    "This is journalism about bad journalism"

    Disagree, Mr. Newman.
    This is bad journalism about bad journalism.
    Headlines are important.
    , @fllaart bllooger
    i think you made my point quite well achmed. the article has no info about the actual crime mentioned in the headline.

    it's about the race baiters.

    and no, the article is NOT about bad journalism because there is no correction of the actual story.

    if you were defending the mcmichaels, would your defense pivot on the fact that his lawyers were racebaiters or the facts of the case?

    if you were to try king and his cohort for fraud, by all means have at them with the info in this article.
  21. The poor widdle dindus weren’t geeing enough looks-at-muh with all the Rona coverage going on.Not even wailing that the vurus be rayciss/muh reparashuns was center stage.They always find a way to get back into the spotlight.

  22. @Hans
    The Trayvon Martin Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America - https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

    That documentary is very good. The complete film is available for free on utube.

  23. Wikipedia says ahmuad has been convicted of stealing a TV and for a gun violation. But the press is making him out to be a model citizen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ahmaud_Arbery

    • Replies: @TroofTwawler
    Don't worry, wikipedia will quickly be purged of any truth, as will twatter, fakebook, jootube etc etc. The narrative must continue no matter what. This is the next Trayvon Skittles Martin story to drive more money into the race hustlers pockets.

    Give it a few months for the genuine facts to start leaking out, then see what the real story is. Another pavement ape keeping it real, and finding out the hard way what happens when you steal, is what I am betting.

    It's an election year, the dimocraps need some kind of drama, any kind, to try to win votes. Whitey bad will be the headlines for the next month.

  24. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:

    These men are guilty of vigilante tactics that they started. But I don’t believe Arbery was a jogger and I think he probably up to mischief. Call the police and wait m They have to prove their actions didn’t warrant death

    • Replies: @TroofTwawler
    No, the prosecutor will have to prove death was the intended outcome at the beginning of the encounter. Georgia is not one of them limp wrist states where you are required to hide under the bed while the bad guy does whatever he wants. If he did charge them in a threatening manner, especially if they were holding guns on him, well, they could say they were in fear of their lives, after all, no sane person would charge a shotgun right? He was a bit tardy too correct? Self defense is going to have a strong prominence here.
    , @BenKenobi
    He chose trial by combat, and the gods judged him guilty.
    , @TheTrumanShow
    This was all detailed in a public letter from District Attorney George E. Barnhill, who has worked as a criminal prosecutor for 36 years.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    Barnhill wrote:
    "Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law, McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself."
  25. @Hans
    Thanks for the info on these "geniuses." Had not tracked their activities. One to file.

    https://files.catbox.moe/mtaj13.jpg

    Thanx for the photo. Revealing. Watch the MSM attempt to ignore pertinent background info about ‘jogger’ Ahmaud Arbery. Omissions of this kind are routine and orchestrated. It’s reminiscent of how the MSM characterized career criminal, Rodney King, as an innocent (black) ‘motorist’ before the LA race riots ensued. The toxic, anti-white narrative continues.

    This latest incident is actually notable for one thing: white-on-black crime remains relatively rare compared to the reverse: black-on-white violence. But watch the (((MSM))) ignore that persistent fact.

    Here’s a recent incident of abhorrent criminality that didn’t rock the journalistic world (or stir national ‘outrage’). Why? It doesn’t comport with the anti-white agenda.

    https://news.yahoo.com/father-throws-one-old-daughter-144853088.html

    • Replies: @Richard B
    All of this happens for one reason only.

    Whites have a self-preservation chip missing from their DNA.*

    The hostile elite and their POC proxies know this.

    For example, if anyone under the Identity Politics umbrella is "attacked" they don't say to each other, "One of us was attacked." and do nothing.

    They scream in unison "WE were attacked!" and immediately spring into action.

    And Whites?

    This latest incident is simply another case in point.

    *Given that it takes about a million years to develop a new genetic attribute, it doesn't look good for Whites. Even for the anti-White Whites. A fact they seem blissfully unaware of.

    , @MrTea
    Similarly the item about the store security guard shot and killed over him telling shoppers they had to wear masks appears to have gone quickly down the Memory Hole. There are suspects in custody. All involved on both sides of the crime are black. I would think the relevance to the current Corona Crisis would justify coverage of this as a warning.

    The Selective News Media does not care what about real events, nor their correct context. They already wrote the "news" and only seek evidence to support their pre-arranged pseudo-narrative.
    , @Honesthughgrant

    Omissions of this kind are routine and orchestrated. It’s reminiscent of how the MSM characterized career criminal, Rodney King, as an innocent (black) ‘motorist’ before the LA race riots ensued. The toxic, anti-white narrative continues.
     
    Yep. Trayvon martin - little 14 y/o kid (see picture) out for some tea and skittles. Mr. Brown in Ferguson, just out for a stroll to the 711 and Rodney King 'Motorist'. Now we have Mr. Arbery "out for a jog".

    We'll have to wait for the facts. Right now the MSM and their Conservative allies are in full hysterical "lynch 'em they're white" mode.
  26. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... there is a reason that lawyers are not allowed to bring up a defendants past actions in a case.

    that should apply here.
     

    That's not the point of Michelle Malkin's column here, Mr. Blooger. The article is mostly about two hate-mongers, Shaun King and Lee Merritt, who have gotten people killed and caused who knows how many billions of dollars in property damage from the fall-out from their hate-mongering.

    Mrs. Malkin probably could have picked a better title, as you wrote, but that's a minor point, IMO. This is journalism about bad journalism, as in the promotion of the narrative, no matter how many lies must be told. Most journalism is bad journalism, keeping us up with the narrative (or not, in my case).

    Don’t think he’s a trying, Achmed. Lots of anxious critters drawn out by this story.

  27. @KenH
    I've got a bad feeling the McMichael's are going to be railroaded and offered as a sacrifice to the howling mobs of hate crazed blacks and self hating white leftists. The prosecution team will likely be leftist SJW's who stack the jury with blacks, minorities and white leftists. The biased and sensational media coverage almost ensures a fair trial is impossible since they're already being convicted by the media, both leftist and Coninc.

    But if by some miracle they do get acquitted then there will be pressure on Trump to have Barr file federal civil rights charges. It's an election year and orange man desperately wants the black vote. But if he were do do that I hope he knows he'll lose enough white voters to ensure he loses the election.

    George W. Bush pulled this type of stunt back in 1992 when he sicced the DOJ on the Los Angeles police officers involved in the Rodney King incident. It didn't win him any love or political support from blacks who voted for Bill Clinton in massive numbers.

    Since we are less then 6 months from the election, KenH, it is very doubtful if there will be a trial before then – assuming that the two white alleged shooters don’t take a plea. With defense lawyers stalling tactics, and the courts backed up, many cases don’t go to trial for two years – and that’s not even counting C19 further gumming up the system.

    For example, the deranged white man who killed 11 Jewish worshippers at the Pittsburgh synagogue in Oct. 2018 has yet to go to trial.

  28. anonymous[981] • Disclaimer says:
    @Longfisher
    Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn't worth my time to read this article.

    I agree. Headline promises a lot, delivers little, which is unusual for Malkin.

    The fact that the publicity for this shooting is being supplied by some disreputable hustlers does not change what actually happened.

    Supposedly, the shooter did not actually see the deceased commit a crime (suspecting and seeing are not the same thing) and so did not have cause to (citizen’s) arrest him. There is film, which may show that the victim of the shooting did not display a weapon or attempt to use deadly force. IF THIS IS TRUE, and the investigation supports prosecution, these men should be prosecuted.

    • Disagree: Hippopotamusdrome
    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
    There are links right here in these comments that will counter the argument for murder. But any facts like that will not appear on NBC or CNN or any other place that the vast majority still trust, for some reason, to tell them the facts. The truth is that pretty much no one here, Malkin included, is in possession of the evidence that the trial court will have to consider. But Malkin's point is that Talcum X and his buddy are interested in agitating for blood for their own ideology and for profit
    Crump too. Hopefully George Zimmerman will win his civil suit against Crump and others involved in the Trayvon travesty, and Crump will be disbarred.
  29. anonymous[981] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    ... there is a reason that lawyers are not allowed to bring up a defendants past actions in a case.

    that should apply here.
     

    That's not the point of Michelle Malkin's column here, Mr. Blooger. The article is mostly about two hate-mongers, Shaun King and Lee Merritt, who have gotten people killed and caused who knows how many billions of dollars in property damage from the fall-out from their hate-mongering.

    Mrs. Malkin probably could have picked a better title, as you wrote, but that's a minor point, IMO. This is journalism about bad journalism, as in the promotion of the narrative, no matter how many lies must be told. Most journalism is bad journalism, keeping us up with the narrative (or not, in my case).

    “This is journalism about bad journalism”

    Disagree, Mr. Newman.
    This is bad journalism about bad journalism.
    Headlines are important.

  30. Sean says:
    @Blue Juice
    The truth is there...if you know where to look.
    1.) Ahmaud "Maude" Arbery was a 2-time convicted thief who couldn't hold down a job even though he was 25-years old. In fact there is no record of him ever having a full-time job but plenty of run-ins with the law, indulging in an expensive marijuana habit as well as threatening his father's side of the family.
    2.) However his family, extortion team and the MSM claim that the deceased was on his "daily jog". Wearing a dirty white t-shirt, cargo pants and Timberlands.
    3.) After weeks of denials his family has finally admitted that he was seen on security video rummaging through a house under rehab. But that he was not committing a burglary but was "interested in construction"! Apparently the rehab project was so interesting to an unemployed thief and "aspiring electrician" that he had to stop in the middle of his run to walk 40 feet off the street and onto and into the property of some stranger.
    4.) When confronted by a neighbor and told that police were on the way (and then identified by the McMichaels as the offender who fled the scene of burglary earlier in the week), Arbery continued on his daily jog...through someone's yard and onto a dead-end street! The McMichaels and an unknown second driver with a cellphone camera were in pursuit.
    5.) When stopped the first-time Arbery turned around and ran onto Holmes Drive where the second confrontation happened and Arbery charged, punched in the head and attempted to grab a semi-auto shotgun away from a legally armed man (Travis McMichael). Arbery was shot in the hand and again in the chest. At no time did anyone hear Arbery yell "help or stop harassing me".
    6. ) Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police? Was it murder or self-defense? If it was 1st degree murder why didn't the McMichaels simply shoot him from the truck or run him over? Those are the facts...you be the judge...

    Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police?

    All Arbery’s troubles are over now, the McMichaels’ are just begining and they are going to be pauperised by this. Trespassing is all he was guilty of, and the extended chase and blocking his way with a shotgun pointed at him then altering position when he tried to go the other way makes it look like an attempt to stage a ‘stand your ground as a legally armed citizen’ scenario, with the soon-to-be-deceased coming a straight into the double barrels and stopping rather than keep going under the assumption no man is going to choose to be justifiably homicided. The court will take into account the context of how that scenario came about as has been made clear in recent murder convictions in citizen shootings.

    The McMichaels now realise the definition of mentally ill behaviour is what is maladaptive, as they obviously did not before that such people are not that thin on the ground, and accordingly to point a loaded gun at someone behaving strangely (black man oddly dressed running through a strange white neighbourhood was not playing with full deck) in the expectation that he will behave rationally is a big gamble with the odds far from long ones life will be flushed down the toilet. If pointing a gun was a solution cops would never need call for back up or carry cuffs, batons, and tasers.
    —-

    The broad-faced and burly half Japanese Holtzclaw looks distinctly unwhite and dangerous. He seems to have had a thing for non consenting old black bodies and gone for increasingly elderly ones as his spree progressed culminating in the riskiest when he swooped on a law abiding 57 year old woman, who promptly made a complaint. While his sentence is excessive, the totality of the evidence (included DNA) and testimony against him (including someone with no criminal record) was far from weak. Being sexually interested in much older women is a surprisingly common fetish if a study of the stats from adult site searches is any guide.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    The "evidence" against Holtzclaw that you reported has already been disputed (actually demolished) by Michelle Malkin!
    , @Beau Nydle
    This might be worthy of a thorough perusal..... https://www.uncufftheinnocent.org/daniel-holtzclaw

    This may be of some interest as well.... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgAs63Z16t0nnDI8nuLDcG7EO2AI70LM_

  31. Even if the black guy had committed burglary, two armed rednecks rolling up to kidnap him wasn’t a smart move. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, the shooter is guilty of manslaughter and attempted kidnapping, the dad for armed criminal action and attempted kidnapping. This is the difference between having a badge and not having one. A “citizen’s arrest” excuse ain’t gonna fly.

    • Disagree: Hippopotamusdrome
    • Replies: @gaston julia
    +1, but I'm still glad someone is keeping track of Shaun King. He was masquerading as a journalist on The Intercept until about a year ago. I wonder what happened.
    , @Anonymous

    Even if the black guy had committed burglary, two armed rednecks rolling up to kidnap him wasn’t a smart move. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, the shooter is guilty of manslaughter and attempted kidnapping, the dad for armed criminal action and attempted kidnapping. This is the difference between having a badge and not having one. A “citizen’s arrest” excuse ain’t gonna fly.
     
    Wrong, dum dum.

    In that state, they had a legal right to carry a registered firearm, and the legal right to detain someone who is suspected of a crime. If the were wrong in detaining him, the alleged perp has the right to sue them later for damages. In that state, you can’t bum rush a citizen carrying a legal firearm without opening up the the legal right for the owner/operator of that shotgun to shoot you in the face.

    You don’t need "evidence to the contrary." You just have to bother looking up gun rights and citizens arrest and detainment rights of that state.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    LOL. Black burglars should cruise at will while everyone in the neighborhood cowers, peeping through the blinds.
  32. The accused are being over-charged.

    It was involuntary manslaughter at most. There was no malice of forethought.

    The evidence is that they did not confront the deceased with intent to kill. The video shows the deceased attacking the man with the shotgun. The circumstances were an unreasonable mistake on the McMichael’s part, for which they should be held accountable.

    1 to 10 years in prison?

    • Replies: @rtm

    1 to 10 years in prison?
     
    1 year tops, only to the shooter (the father?), and *only* if it is proven that he was violating any laws in the citizen's arrest (as in, had no right to try to stop the "jogger").
    Definitely, based on all the evidence I saw here, not a murder.
    There was no intent. Simple.

    Personally, without being familiar with the laws pertaining to citizen's arrest, though, I would be inclined to let both walk free as acting in self-defence.

    I feel sympathy towards both.

    , @Father O'Hara
    The charge should be littering!
  33. KenH says:

    From some of the snippets I’ve heard it appears that Georgia governor Brian Kemp almost sounds like Staci Abrams when asked for his comments on the Arbery case. The dimwitted Kemp doesn’t owe black Georgians a damn thing when 90% voted against him in 2018.

    The McMichael’s will not receive a fair trial. This is a malicious and politically motivated prosecution and their entire lives will be on trial and things they did ten or more years ago will be brought up to disparage and defame them in the eyes of the jury.

    Meanwhile, the media will paint Arbery as an Olympic hopeful in distance running events in between trying to earn a degree in Aerospace engineering.

  34. @rtm
    So, you determine the guilt/innocence in a murder case based on the advocates for one of the parties?
    How about focusing on the evidence itself?

    So, you determine the guilt/innocence in a murder case based on the advocates for one of the parties?

    Refreshingly, looks like she did not posit that. Maybe my skim missed it though.

    The shooters are dirtbag fools, and so are Talcum X & company. If, as NYT published, there’s video of Arbery/Avery (long story) burgling the neighborhood, Talc’s dance will be predictable but fun.

    Anyway, what pic ya think is more precious—PromKingArbery, or SkiKingTrayvon?

  35. “Top 3 Reasons to Doubt the Ahmaud “Just a Jogger” Arbery Narrative”

    1. He was black.

    2. He was in a white neighborhood.

    3. He was murdered by 2 white guys.

  36. Look at the ANCHOR BABY MALKIN stirring up crap, as usual. If your parents weren’t here on work visas, you’d be another Philippina in a slum.

    • Troll: SOL
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    And, if Arbery wasn't pausing from his khaki jog to walk onto a man's private property to examine his foundation, he'd just be another live black man?
    , @Really No Shit
    More like a hooker near the former American bases ...
    , @Anonymous
    Miranda, how is the author’s background relevant to the article? What is relevant is that none of these schvartzers would be granted public existence if it didn’t further the interests of those who own the MSM, which in this case is culpable incitement of black-on-white violence.
    , @anonymous jew
    She's done a lot more to defend White Anglo America then you ever will, or most other Whites for that matter. You've been cucked out of the nation your ancestors built from the ground up and you're complaining about a non-White that actually helps your cause?
    , @Ace
    That was like turning over a rock.
  37. Ko says:

    Good work Michelle. It puts a different background on the entire event. The people you wrote about are definitely racists, liars, and opportunists.

    However, even if the jogger was guilty of something, we don’t know yet, were the men justified in acting as vigilantes which resulted in the joggers death?

    Looking at the even itself, it looks like 2nd degree murder.

    • Replies: @Hans
    Not sure how it's vigilantism. Mr. Armed Robbery did a Michael Brown and tried to take the weapon. From the D.A.'s letter:

    OCGA17-4-60 "A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge . If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion .”

    "From said video it appears Ahmaud Arbery was running along the right side of the McMichael truck then abruptly turns 90 degrees to the left and attacks Travis McMichael who was standing at the front left corner of the truck . A brief skirmish ensues in which it appear Arbery strikes McMichael and appears to grab the shotgun and pull it from McMichael The shot is through Arbery's right hand palm which is consistent with him grabbing and pulling the shotgun at the barrel tip, the 2nd and 3rd wounds are consistent with the struggle for the shotgun as depicted in the video , the angle of the 2nd shot with the rear of the butt stock being pushed away and down from the fight are also consistent with the upward angle of blood plume shown in the video and that McMichael was attempting to push the gun away from Arbery while Arbery was pulling it toward himself. The 3rd shot too appears to be in a struggle over the gun. The angle of the shots and the video show this was from the beginning or almost immediately became-- a fight over the shotgun .
    Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself. Just as importantly, while we know McMichael had his finger on the trigger, we do not know who caused the firings. Arbery would only had to pull the shotgun approximately 1/ 16th to 1/8th of one inch to fire weapon himself and in the height of an altercation this is entirely possible . Arbery s mental health records & prior convictions help explain his apparent aggressive nature and his possible thought pattern to attack an armed man ."

    Some have said Robbery's clothing is inconsistent with the description of him as a "jogger." I can accept it may be true which would explain his casing the work site looking for a beverage. I still am not sure where Robbery's residence was.

    Mrs. Malkin seems to have provoked the trolls by providing such useful info on the marketing firm. Thank you very much for you good works, MM.

    'The Trayvon Hoax' Gets A Reboot With The Shooting Death Of Ahmaud Arbery - https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    The Trayvon Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America - https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/
    , @Jonathan Mason

    However, even if the jogger was guilty of something, we don’t know yet, were the men justified in acting as vigilantes which resulted in the joggers death?
     
    If they had shot him with a cell phone camera, that would have probably been enough to identify him as a suspect to crimes and burglaries. Apparently the most recent reported crime or burglary in the area was that someone had stolen a gun from an unlocked vehicle parked outside the McMichaels' home, so it looks like they or their friends had a history of being careless with firearms, to say the least.

    I don't think that they set out to kill the guy, but they were trying to act macho and were carrying guns, and as often happens in such situations, things get out of control. Maybe they had had a beer or two, I don't know. Things sometimes get out of control with police officers too, but at least police officers usually have some kind of rudimentary training in dealing with mentally disturbed people.
  38. Good grief,

    stop being so obtuse about this. It doesn’t matter whether he was Mary Poppins of Atilla the Hun. There was no probable cause at that moment for any detainment by anyone, muchless citizens. He was jogging not a crime, even if one is jogging in a white neighborhood. Even if he was casing the neighborhood . . . he was jogging period.

    Had there been such as a an issue, the matter should have been forwarded to the police, but at that moment his presence was as all others regardless of another’s suspicions. We have a had a rash of pett crimes in my neighborhood, this last week, there have been brown skinned people seen walking and jogging — more than rare.

    Their presence benevolent or otherwise is not grounds for anything – even I suspect they are involved in said crimes. This game of what about, and hip hopping across the past or suspicions . . . does not constitute probable cause, especialy for citizens.

    I have never robbed anyone (save for that silliness as a kid), I have not engage in stealing, gang or rusta bouts, I don’t drink, smoke, or engage in drug use —

    yet I have a criminal record — all of it directly relate to issues with the police. It got serious when I was stopped — get this for stopping short when a jay walker ran in from of my car . . . yet, the officer pulled me over despite being right behind me. He had no idea why he stopped me when asked . . .

    it was one of the most bizarre and telling incidents in my view about the arbitrariness of government power — let’s get something straight — without being any kind of habitual law breaker, if the someone with power wants to create problems for you — they and will. And that is the game we have played with blacks especially black men — get them a record, as many as possible — so that should we decide to shoot them, beat them up, or any manner destroy their lives — we can always fall back on that past —- who are ever convenient suspects past or no past. We have spent more than 200 years painting them as criminals- especially men — might as well use it.

    I care not a lick if the gentleman was Dr. Livingston or Wayne Gacy — jogging and being seen on is not cause for restraint. Had he been weaving about houses, entered someone’s car — heck, even looking in someone’s car — maybe —

    But anyone confronted by two civilians wielding a weapon and makes the choice to defend his right to be in public —

    the muckraking here is simply avoiding the obvious. At least try be a conservative. My not liking your looks is not grounds for a citizens arrest.

    An the city’s response thus far is an indication of a deeper ethos that is applied to indiscriminately, most likely to skin color and no citizen should be countenancing that nonsense.

    • Troll: SOL
    • Replies: @Inverness
    You have a ton of opinions and preconceptions but do not appear to have familiarized yourself with any of the facts of the case. For this reason it's somewhat odd that you believe it's your proper role to lecture everyone else.
    , @Fluesterwitz
    Agree.
  39. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?

    That question presumes guilt. It’s circular, and hardly empathic.

    An innocent man has every instinctive reason to be pissed at armed accusers, however dangerous it may be. I’d tell them to F themselves. The average innocent black man (theoretical) might go farther, with cause.

    I don’t think Arbery wasn’t burgling, but him being pissed at the beer-gut clods weighs not against him in the search for guilt. I’ve been disgusted by acquaintances who through slop gun handling endangered others at a firing range. Adding strangers, intent, and false criminal accusations would go beyond. But whether the accusation was true, they screwed the pooch.

    I suspect this will turn out much like the Zimmerman mess, with many whites unable to admit that both parties were asses. The shooters here were worse than Zimmerman, and I doubt they’ll be acquitted.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    An innocent man has every instinctive reason to be pissed at armed accusers, however dangerous it may be. I’d tell them to F themselves.
     
    You have a death wish, then? You should have that treated.
    , @AceDeuce
    A Victim of black crime has every instinctive reason to be pissed at prowling negroes, however dangerous it may be. I’d tell them to F themselves. The average white crime victim (theoretical) might go farther, with cause.

    I edited your post.
    , @anonymous jew
    The clods didn't handle this well. And the younger one with the shotgun shouldn't have crossed the center line when the Black man tried to run around the truck. That said, if the clods had kept their guns concealed and 'kindly' told the Black criminal that he wasn't welcome in their neighborhood that would have been admirable behavior. Times were better when men defended their neighborhoods without taking the law into their own hands. But unless the Black man is running with a stolen TV, the whole point is to scare him from coming back, not to block his exit or trying to make a citizens arrest with no proof of a crime. Somewhere between (a) letting a criminal stroll through your neighborhood because you're weak and (b) blocking a suspicious person's exit by brandishing a shotgun (eg crossing the center line), is what most of us would call an appropriate response.

    The clods didn't handle this well, that's for sure. On the other hand, when they killed the Black man the world didn't lose anything of value. He was no doubt a thug. But you can't go around making citizens arrests based on your suspicion, even if the suspicion is no doubt correct.
    , @Craig Nelsen

    I’d tell them to F themselves.
     
    and he'd still be alive
  40. 3 reasons to question malkin’s motivation for writing this zionazi-gay smear piece. Here is reason 1:

    Michelle Malkin Archives

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin.archives.asp

    A list of fellow travellers there:

    Michael Barone
    Mona Charen
    Linda Chavez
    Ann Coulter
    Greg Crosby
    Larry Elder
    Don Feder
    Suzanne Fields
    Paul Greenberg
    Bob Greene
    Betsy Hart
    Nat Hentoff
    David Horowitz
    Marianne Jennings
    Michael Kelly
    Mort Kondracke
    Ch. Krauthammer
    Lawrence Kudlow
    Dr. Laura
    John Leo
    David Limbaugh
    Michelle Malkin
    Chris Matthews
    Michael Medved
    MUGGER
    Kathleen Parker
    Wes Pruden
    Sam Schulman
    Amity Shlaes
    Tony Snow
    Thomas Sowell
    Cal Thomas
    Jonathan S. Tobin
    Ben Wattenberg
    George Will
    Bruce Williams
    Walter Williams
    Mort Zuckerman

  41. @Longfisher
    Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn't worth my time to read this article.

    Listen to the 911 call before the incident happened.

  42. “If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out/”

    Because, looking in a window is not a crime, , if that is what happened, neither is walking or jogging — there simply no cause to do anything — and the reverse is the case — call the police and let them deal with it, it is not as if he was hiding.

    —————–

    You people are a trip. Excuse me, if you confront me with a weapon — you might get more than you bargained for in resistance. You are not in uniform, you are not a police officer — regardless of your claim to motive, I am not entitled to obey your demands or even respond as if you matter.

    Now I have to admit, it takes a might brave sole to confront someone with a weapon, when all you have is your body — but, anyone being confronted in such a matter is entitle to self defense. laughing.

    Shocker of shockers — whites coming out of the woodwork, claiming they saw him peeking in windows — there’s a shock.

    So if i had to guess, this community has held one segment in lockdown by virtue of suspicion and gun toting and should challenge their authority they will attack you. If you defend yourself they will shoot you and cry self defense.

    I like to avoid these articles — but good grief.

    • Disagree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    So, citizen's arrest with probably cause is not legal in Georgia?
    , @anon

    if you confront me with a weapon — you might get more than you bargained for in resistance
     
    If you try to take my gun from me, you will definitely be shot. And unlike the guys in the video, I'll shoot you on approach. Furthermore, unless you're black (I'm white) I'll probably walk, since in just about any reasonably gun-friendly jurisdiction, trying to take a man's gun is justifiable grounds for self-defense.

    I'd guess most of the conserva-cucks and virtue-signalling lolberts condemning the "hicks" are unarmed urbanites. This is indicated by (for instance) the idea that the correct way to deal with an armed opponent is to go after his gun, since clearly, merely pointing a gun at someone results in instant death-ray destruction (/sarc). These sorts of attitudes belie an experience with firearms rooted in television and not reality. (Protip: run from the gun. It's actually hard to hit you with a handgun, and that shotgun's lethality drops off radically with range).

    The endless argumentation over the background to this confrontation does not ultimately matter, since the plain evidence on video is of a guy with his gun pointed at the ground being attacked by another guy, who gets shot. This is exhaustively detailed in the recused DA's letter.

    The lack of any clear, simple principle here is depressing. In my grandfathers' day, even putting aside the racial angle, there would be no question what was "right" here. "Damn fool deserved to get shot, you don't go for another man's gun".

    This "nation" richly deserves what's coming. In fact, under this degree of emergent anarcho-tyranny, the BEST we can hope for is full collapse, as soon as possible. Then we'll at least be free to protect ourselves. I'll take anarchy over anarcho-tyranny.
  43. Reason 2:

    So Let Me Get This Straight: Michelle Malkin Claims to Have Rewritten the History of Japanese Internment in Just 16 Months?

    http://hnn.us/articles/7094.html

    Do we really need to relearn the lessons of Japanese American internment?

    https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Do-we-really-need-to-relearn-the-lessons-of-2724896.php#ixzz1G4XdDKkU

    “But now the old accusations are back. Fox News media personality Michelle Malkin claims that some Japanese Americans were spies during World War II. Based upon her suspicions, Malkin claims the internment of all Japanese Americans was not such a bad idea after all. She goes on to claim that racial profiling of Arab Americans today is justified by the need to fight terrorism. According to Malkin, it is OK to take away an entire ethnic group’s civil rights because some individuals are suspect. Malkin argues for reviving the old notion of guilt by association.

    It is painful to see reopened for serious debate the question of whether the government was justified in imprisoning Japanese Americans during World War II. It was my hope that my case and the cases of other Japanese American internees would be remembered for the dangers of racial and ethnic scapegoating.

    Fears and prejudices directed against minority communities are too easy to evoke and exaggerate, often to serve the political agendas of those who promote those fears. I know what it is like to be at the other end of such scapegoating and how difficult it is to clear one’s name after unjustified suspicions are endorsed as fact by the government. If someone is a spy or terrorist they should be prosecuted for their actions. But no one should ever be locked away simply because they share the same race, ethnicity, or religion as a spy or terrorist. If that principle was not learned from the internment of Japanese Americans, then these are very dangerous times for our democracy.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    If that principle was not learned from the internment of Japanese Americans, then these are very dangerous times for our democracy.”
     
    We have a democracy? When did that happen? I thought that the American Government had taken over all important decisions and left the population out of the loop.
    Maybe you mean Trump's election instituted a democracy.
    Nice try, but note that the election has been largely nullified by various means, including the attempt to criminally and fraudulently charge Trump's appointees and, in fact, Trump himself. City governments are still bringing in foreigners in violation of US Federal law and claiming that they are the equivalent of citizens in determining city political influence, a rather obvious violation of both law and popular will. We now, in fact, have foreigners brought in illegally in areas where it is illegal for citizens to leave their house.
    I'd suggest that you think again.
    , @Cowtown Rebel
    The Japanese obtained their detailed knowledge of Pearl Harbor from spies. The entire West Coast was vulnerable to Fifth Column insurgents. The Japanese used women from Korea, China and the Philippines for sexual exploitation by their troops. These "Comfort Women" ranged in age from nine to nineteen, with the average being thirteen. The European nurses who were taken into captivity by the Japanese were repeatedly raped, brutalized, and urinated and defecated on by the Officers. You obviously don't have a clue about them.

    Today, the Japanese continue to be extremely insular and hardly allow any immigration. Nor, do they permit immigrants to alter their culture. They don't allow Muslims to come there and build Mosques. That is the only lesson we should learn from the Japanese.
  44. @Johnny C Goode
    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?

    Did the other men say something extremely threatening? Why was the shotgun brandished in the first place? Why was one guy out in the open if they thought Arbery had a gun? Were they simply looking for trouble?

    A jury needs to decide (not hysterical leftists and MSM).

    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?

    Would you:
    1) Turn to run and hope you are faster than that load of buckshot that will hit you in the back.
    2) Attempt to fight for your life.

    • Replies: @Mechi
    He wasn't pointing the shotgun at him. The shotgun was pointed towards the ground. If someone came over to me with a shotgun pointing towards the GROUND--in an open-carry state--my instinct wouldn't be to charge the guy and give him a reason to shoot me.
    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    I would stand still, keep my hands in plain view, make no sudden moves and wait for the police to arrive.
    , @Lowe
    Run away, in whichever direction, but definitely away from the guy with the gun.

    Your probability of survival is much higher doing that. You don't even know he's going to shoot at you. If you attack him he definitely will.
  45. Rich says:

    First off, before my knees went bad, I was an avid runner, I wasn’t running through other towns, I stuck to my own streets or public parks. And a real runner doesn’t stop to look at construction sites. His former convictions, his running at his pursuers, shows something wasn’t right. I just hope they have video of him casing, or burglarizing other homes. At least these two stand a chance in Georgia, in NY they’d bring back death row if they could find a White man to lynch for shooting a black felon.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The video you requested exists.

    Occidental Dissent put it up today.

    He s on video trespassing on the hone construction site casing the place.

    He wasn t “jogging” . Instead he was caught trespassing and hauled off running to flee .

    The video evidence overwhelming supports the White neighborhood watch guys.
  46. pavement apes look out for pavement apes,

    Jews look out for Jews. Maybe,

    someday, Whites will start looking out for Whites. Then,

    it’ll be tough times for Jews and pavement apes.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, Trinity
    • Replies: @G J T
    Whites will never start looking out for other whites until Jews are out of the picture. And at which point the Jews are out of the picture, the amount of looking out for each other we actually need to do will hardly be noteworthy.
  47. Reason 3:

    Malkin was off-base with her La Raza column

    https://www.lowellsun.com/2006/07/30/malkin-was-off-base-with-her-la-raza-column/

    “Michelle Malkin’s July 14 column, “How radical La Raza gets federal subsidies,” is filled with inaccuracies about our organization, the National Council of La Raza.”

    • Replies: @fnn
    You're pretending you don't know how political machines are organized in the 21st Century.

    Similarly, Malkin repeats an already discredited charge that we use federal funds for political purposes. In fact, these funds are used to support the work of the Raza Development Fund, the largest Latino community bank in the country, to help fund health clinics, day-care facilities, homes for first-time buyers, and community-based charter schools.
     
    Raza Development Fund-An NGO doing the jobs that state and local govt should be doing.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Screw you,amigo.
  48. Jake says:

    Negroes indeed are accounted Numinous by the Elites of the USA. And virtually all non-PC whites are accounted trash by the Elites of the USA.

    Ideas have consequences. I expect the Elites of the Anglo-Zionist Empire to unleash more of their attack dogs on whites. The Elites of the Anglo-Zionist Empire are not happy about so many hate crime hoaxes being exposed. They want guilty whites punished for offending the Numinous Negroes.

    And you had better know who made the Negro Numinous, doing to so harm whites they hated: the Yankee WASPs, the physical, spiritual, intellectual, and cultural heirs of Anglo-Saxon Puritans.

  49. @Johnny C Goode
    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?

    Did the other men say something extremely threatening? Why was the shotgun brandished in the first place? Why was one guy out in the open if they thought Arbery had a gun? Were they simply looking for trouble?

    A jury needs to decide (not hysterical leftists and MSM).

    Pause the video before it goes out of focus…one of the McMichaels is standing in the middle of the road so Ahmaud goes right to avoid him but he is blocked off again and a struggle ensues

  50. The DA’s report has been released and along with the Full video, clearly shows this whole thing is a scam.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    The DA’s report has been released and along with the Full video, clearly shows this whole thing is a scam.
     
    Supposedly not only angle, though may be rumor.

    The second former prosecutor was done when that report was written, and he carves a justification for it based on an earlier conversation. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets slapped. Shouldn't have written what he did.

    Had he any foresight and interest in not dumping the Keystone cop-types into their present hell, he would've pursued, genuinely, charges less than murder soon after the first prosecutor's recusal. His brushoff of a dubious situation may have thrown the pickup twins into a lost decade. He did no favors. Should've counted that the video would leak.

    Vid doesn't exonerate unless one assumes the shooters get the same "shooter safety" bull cops get. Brandishing is a very dangerous, escalating thing, and doesn't work like in the movies. Almost universally, better to keep arms unknown until it's time to use them. Of course, a former cop will have cop disease, and likely influenced the son.

    Anyone who thinks the former second prosecutor didn't wrongly hand over a big helping of "professional courtesy" is on the pipe. Probably the first one too. They were clueless.
    , @map
    So the "jogger" initiated the confrontation. He goes around the truck on the right and then attacks the younger McMichaels on the left.

    No, the jogger was not blocked by the guy he fought with. He actually goes to attack the guy with the shotgun whom he could have easily avoided.
    , @Monotonous Languor
    Thanks for the information, which is definitive. Once again the left and its pet minorities will go to any lengths to push their false narrative down everyone's throat, especially since they can depend on the corrupt media to collaborate.

    By now we should be well acquainted with the left's perverted idea of justice:
    It consists of nothing but contrived interpretations about inner feelings and motives of the accused, after which any evidence is manipulated to legitimize the assumed motive. The left perpetrates any lie to enhance the power of the narrative at their enemy's expense.

    , @Anon
    According to the filed docs, the authorities decided that the black guy switched direction to charge a guy holding a gun, and then attacked the guy holding the gun. At that point, the authorities decided the black guy's shooting was self-defense and didn't charge the shooters. I would have agreed. If the black guy didn't want to get shot he should have left them alone and played innocent.
  51. KA says:

    rbery was killed in February. One of his killers, Gregory McMichael, is a retired police detective. The other killer is McMichael’s son, Travis. One had a handgun, the other a shotgun. For more than two months, no charges were filed, despite the pleas from Arbery’s family. McMichael told his friends in the cop shop that he believed Arbery was a suspect in a string of robberies in the neighborhood in Brunswick. But police records show there’d only been one reported burglary in the past month. No charges were filed. The prosecutor, searching for an excuse, said the McMichaels had the right to detain Arbery under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away.

    Then, earlier this week, a cellphone video of the shooting surfaced, showing that Arbery was shot within mere seconds of being accosted by the McMichaels.-www.counterpunch.com https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/08/roaming-charges-aint-living-long-like-this/

    Like this “under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away”

    Will Syria or Venezuela or Serbia emulate this law ? What about Japan and Philippine?

    • Replies: @map
    If you watch the video, then you see the "jogger" initiated the attack on the guy with the shotgun. He swings right on the truck then left to attack the guy. The shotgunner wasn't blocking his path.
    , @TheTrumanShow
    You are mis-stating the events as depicted in the video and the findings of the Waycross DA. If your're interested, both are available online:

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html
    , @Kyle Kiernan
    "And to shoot him when he ran away."

    absolutely not shot running away. Total flat out lie.

    Damns every other thing you say.
    , @Cowtown Rebel
    Syria is in a state of Civil War. If you believe the MSM narrative, Assad was gassing Women and Children. Regardless, the Rebels morphed into ISIS and began to kill indiscriminately as they spread into a lawless Iraq.

    Venezuela, a place where dissidents are imprisoned, tortured, and murdered is your idea of a lawful society? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/04/world/americas/venezuela-police-abuses.html

    Serbia did a damn fine job of ridding themselves of the Bosnian Muslim Menace, until the Jewnited States intervened on behalf of the real criminals. This article is rare, in that it tells of some of the crimes perpetrated against the Serbians, but omits the fact that the tensions that led to the conflict were instigated by the Muslims and that Serbs were retaliating after being victimized for years. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bosnia-warcrimes/sarajevo-prosecutor-indicts-14-bosnian-muslims-over-war-crimes-against-serbs-idUSKBN1EM1BD
    It is very difficult to find any coverage from the Serbian point of view, where they still view Slobodan Milosevic as a Savior. I still relish the words of General Ratko Mladic telling the U.N. tribunal "F*ck You!" as he was being sentenced.

    Japan is arguably the most ethnocentric nation on Earth and is definitely free from Negroid misbehavior and would not tolerate its manifestation. They were going to give Paul McCartney seven years in prison for marijuana possession. It was only his money and fame that got him out of that predicament. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/paul-mccartney-is-released-from-a-tokyo-jail-and-deported-from-japan

    The Philippines is a strange territory where Pacific Islanders have Hispanic surnames. Where a Rebel Muslim faction has long been at odds with Christians and foreigners. https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/27415/with-autonomy-in-the-southern-philippines-muslim-rebels-must-learn-how-to-govern

    What Universe were you orbiting in before you landed on this planet?
  52. I thought it was determined Shaun King was a white man?

  53. @Hang All Text Drivers
    Wikipedia says ahmuad has been convicted of stealing a TV and for a gun violation. But the press is making him out to be a model citizen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ahmaud_Arbery

    Don’t worry, wikipedia will quickly be purged of any truth, as will twatter, fakebook, jootube etc etc. The narrative must continue no matter what. This is the next Trayvon Skittles Martin story to drive more money into the race hustlers pockets.

    Give it a few months for the genuine facts to start leaking out, then see what the real story is. Another pavement ape keeping it real, and finding out the hard way what happens when you steal, is what I am betting.

    It’s an election year, the dimocraps need some kind of drama, any kind, to try to win votes. Whitey bad will be the headlines for the next month.

  54. @Anonymous
    These men are guilty of vigilante tactics that they started. But I don't believe Arbery was a jogger and I think he probably up to mischief. Call the police and wait m They have to prove their actions didn't warrant death

    No, the prosecutor will have to prove death was the intended outcome at the beginning of the encounter. Georgia is not one of them limp wrist states where you are required to hide under the bed while the bad guy does whatever he wants. If he did charge them in a threatening manner, especially if they were holding guns on him, well, they could say they were in fear of their lives, after all, no sane person would charge a shotgun right? He was a bit tardy too correct? Self defense is going to have a strong prominence here.

    • Replies: @Fluesterwitz
    If two armed people decide to impede the actions of a third, unarmed, person, how exactly can they fear for their lives? And if they do, why don't they just stop their actions that lead to them being afraid in the first place?
  55. @mark green
    Thanx for the photo. Revealing. Watch the MSM attempt to ignore pertinent background info about 'jogger' Ahmaud Arbery. Omissions of this kind are routine and orchestrated. It's reminiscent of how the MSM characterized career criminal, Rodney King, as an innocent (black) 'motorist' before the LA race riots ensued. The toxic, anti-white narrative continues.

    This latest incident is actually notable for one thing: white-on-black crime remains relatively rare compared to the reverse: black-on-white violence. But watch the (((MSM))) ignore that persistent fact.

    Here's a recent incident of abhorrent criminality that didn't rock the journalistic world (or stir national 'outrage'). Why? It doesn't comport with the anti-white agenda.

    https://news.yahoo.com/father-throws-one-old-daughter-144853088.html

    All of this happens for one reason only.

    Whites have a self-preservation chip missing from their DNA.*

    The hostile elite and their POC proxies know this.

    For example, if anyone under the Identity Politics umbrella is “attacked” they don’t say to each other, “One of us was attacked.” and do nothing.

    They scream in unison “WE were attacked!” and immediately spring into action.

    And Whites?

    This latest incident is simply another case in point.

    *Given that it takes about a million years to develop a new genetic attribute, it doesn’t look good for Whites. Even for the anti-White Whites. A fact they seem blissfully unaware of.

    • Replies: @Jake
    Your conclusion highlights in huge bold letters, that you are part of the problem: you are a materialist. That means that you do allow yourself to see, much less comprehend, the most important fact in this situation: no white ethnic or national group could be described as either so concerned for uplifting non-whites that they would allow non-whites to bludgeon whites into a Cromwellian position (instead of Hell or Connacht, it NOW is a new serfdom or death), or else be so individualistic that they cannot see that harms inflicted on masses of whites serious threats to their futures.

    That duo of mental self-destruction is common across various white peoples today, but not in 1400, because of cultural changes. Those changes began to be implanted with the Reformation, and the Enlightenment made them absolutely central.

    The answer is not Darwinian; the answer is religious culture.

    First, and foremost, there is not and never was and never can be any such thing as white culture. But there was an overarching culture of Christendom, which gave and nurtured identities worth having, identities worth fighting to save.

    This is a spiritual and religious war. The only way to win it, the only way not to lose eventually, is to strive to rebuild Christendom.

    Here is a Chronicles article that may help some people grasp the point https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2020/April-May/44/4/magazine/article/10885488/

    The absence in the lives of these callers is all that Christendom provided and nurtured. White people have been stripped of almost all that mattered most by their Elites, who chose to keep fighting to destroy Christendom. Empty shells cannot save themselves.
  56. fnn says:
    @vot tak
    Reason 3:

    Malkin was off-base with her La Raza column

    https://www.lowellsun.com/2006/07/30/malkin-was-off-base-with-her-la-raza-column/

    "Michelle Malkin’s July 14 column, “How radical La Raza gets federal subsidies,” is filled with inaccuracies about our organization, the National Council of La Raza."

    You’re pretending you don’t know how political machines are organized in the 21st Century.

    Similarly, Malkin repeats an already discredited charge that we use federal funds for political purposes. In fact, these funds are used to support the work of the Raza Development Fund, the largest Latino community bank in the country, to help fund health clinics, day-care facilities, homes for first-time buyers, and community-based charter schools.

    Raza Development Fund-An NGO doing the jobs that state and local govt should be doing.

    • Replies: @anon
    Malkin is doing something that other immigrants want to do or be doing . Is the pie shrinking for her turning her into a confused rabid dog ?
  57. @Phoenix
    The DA's report has been released and along with the Full video, clearly shows this whole thing is a scam.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html

    https://youtu.be/fIve50vSeLQ

    The DA’s report has been released and along with the Full video, clearly shows this whole thing is a scam.

    Supposedly not only angle, though may be rumor.

    The second former prosecutor was done when that report was written, and he carves a justification for it based on an earlier conversation. Wouldn’t be surprised if he gets slapped. Shouldn’t have written what he did.

    [MORE]

    Had he any foresight and interest in not dumping the Keystone cop-types into their present hell, he would’ve pursued, genuinely, charges less than murder soon after the first prosecutor’s recusal. His brushoff of a dubious situation may have thrown the pickup twins into a lost decade. He did no favors. Should’ve counted that the video would leak.

    Vid doesn’t exonerate unless one assumes the shooters get the same “shooter safety” bull cops get. Brandishing is a very dangerous, escalating thing, and doesn’t work like in the movies. Almost universally, better to keep arms unknown until it’s time to use them. Of course, a former cop will have cop disease, and likely influenced the son.

    Anyone who thinks the former second prosecutor didn’t wrongly hand over a big helping of “professional courtesy” is on the pipe. Probably the first one too. They were clueless.

    • Replies: @Phoenix
    You either didn't read the report or you simply won't face reality.
  58. anon[674] • Disclaimer says:

    Arbery paid the price for being a dumb daylight burglar.
    In Australia,he would have bought a big dog at the pound, gone walking it in a strange neighborhood whilst checking out likely targets and nobody thinks twice because dog.
    With the added bonus that if the burglar is bailed up by irate house owners, he can sool the dog on them and run away to his vehicle.

  59. Narrative Based Justice rides again!

    With it’s reliable old side-kick, DeCourt of Public O’Pinion!

    Or, as the guy with the sign at the Ferguson protests said:
    “The people say, “HE’S GUILTY!”

  60. @Miranda
    Look at the ANCHOR BABY MALKIN stirring up crap, as usual. If your parents weren't here on work visas, you'd be another Philippina in a slum.

    And, if Arbery wasn’t pausing from his khaki jog to walk onto a man’s private property to examine his foundation, he’d just be another live black man?

  61. Camera man gets an F

    • LOL: RodW
  62. Typical white trash convicts:

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
    Don't judge them by the color of their skin but by the contents of their characters ...
    , @Cowtown Rebel
    Really? I see two Heroes on The Front Lines of The Battle against The Black Plague. The only Trash around here is YOU!
    , @James Forrestal

    Typical "White trash" [AKA kulaks, peasants, rednecks...]
     
    And the Tribe's instinctive, virulent, unreasoning hatred for rural, independent White goyim rears its ugly head yet again.

    Yawn. Typical jew trash narrative.

    Spoken like the ignorant, hate-filled anti-White that you so clearly are; desperate to shill for the latest blood libel race hoax promoted by the corporate "news" media.

    https://i.postimg.cc/QNBNR5Xr/Jogger-Mug-Shot.jpg

    But remember, it's important to pay attention to the details when mindlessly promoting this already-debunked anti-White race hoax. You should never refer to the burglar/ assailant as a "j----r" (hard r) unless you're a member of the running community yourself -- that's considered to be a very problematic term in the current year. Stick to "jogga" and you should be OK.

    Joggas gotta jog, you know...

    https://i.postimg.cc/jjmDQSxf/Jogger-Burglar-w-Other-Joggers.jpg

  63. @EliteCommInc.
    "If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out/"


    Because, looking in a window is not a crime, , if that is what happened, neither is walking or jogging -- there simply no cause to do anything --- and the reverse is the case -- call the police and let them deal with it, it is not as if he was hiding.

    -----------------

    You people are a trip. Excuse me, if you confront me with a weapon -- you might get more than you bargained for in resistance. You are not in uniform, you are not a police officer -- regardless of your claim to motive, I am not entitled to obey your demands or even respond as if you matter.


    Now I have to admit, it takes a might brave sole to confront someone with a weapon, when all you have is your body -- but, anyone being confronted in such a matter is entitle to self defense. laughing.


    Shocker of shockers --- whites coming out of the woodwork, claiming they saw him peeking in windows -- there's a shock.

    So if i had to guess, this community has held one segment in lockdown by virtue of suspicion and gun toting and should challenge their authority they will attack you. If you defend yourself they will shoot you and cry self defense.


    I like to avoid these articles -- but good grief.

    So, citizen’s arrest with probably cause is not legal in Georgia?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Citizen's arrest should be an extreme last resort... ...like when the perp is attacking you and/or a loved one and/or trespassing on your property. Not casing a neighbor's property; that's for the neighbor and/or the cops. George Zimmerman was watching, not trying to arrest.

    That having been said, it's ridiculous to call it cold-blooded murder, or even murder at all. Manslaughter, and possibly a lower degree of manslaughter.

    , @Stewart M Schwartz
    no,i don't believe that is anywhere.and if it is ,it shouldn't be.I REPEAT:IF ANY ONE ATTEMPTS TO STOP ME ,AND THEY ARE NOT A COP I WILL DO EVERY THING IN MY POWER TO KILL YOU !!
  64. J1234 says:
    @anonymous
    Of course Biden had to jump in accusing the two men of cold-blooded murder. Other opportunistic politicians will follow suit. What the actual facts are don't matter when something can be misrepresented and hyped up for some advantage, financial or political. Obama did the same with his massive involvement in the Trayvon incident. The false accusers are never held responsible for their actions which only breeds more of the same. Looks like we'll get dragged through another circus yet again even as the black murder rate continues apace, mostly ignored.

    Only Joe Biden could accuse others of killing in “cold blood” without having access to all the evidence while at the same time urging others to consider the lack of evidence in the crime that he himself is accused of. Ha Ha! Stay in your basement and copy some more speeches from British politicians, Joe!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/06/ahmaud-arbery-death-biden-harris-abrams-react-georgia-killing/5174173002/

  65. Anon[614] • Disclaimer says:

    I bet the McMichaels now wish that they had called the police. They were not on their own land, they were on a public street. The police tell you that if you see a suspect, notify the police. Do not try and detain the suspect yourself.

    If the younger McMichael had a bodycam, the whole whole “Ahmed charged the shooter” footage would have been caught on video. Having a friend tail you in another vehicle makes it look like you were anticipating things may escalate into a gunfire-incident. We pay law enforcement to do this for us, espescially when not on our own land. We dont legally have the right to detain anyone for questioning. The McMichaels are probably going to jail for this, when they could have called the police, gave them the info, and the running man gets legally questioned. Its not worth the risk. Whites will be blamed for anything that goes wrong by our media.

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    Having a friend tail you in another vehicle makes it look like you were anticipating things may escalate into a gunfire-incident.
     
    Then it's a good thing for them that isn't what happened. So… time to take your crystal ball to the shop for a rebuild.
    , @schnellandine

    We dont legally have the right to detain anyone for questioning.
     
    I'll bet you take your car to Jiffy Screwed. Just a hunch.

    Ethically, when dealing with criminals, we have all sorts of rights you can't comprehend. "Legally", in the instant state, non-cops have the power to detain and restrain, under conditions which it isn't clear were met, recused prosecutor jive notwithstanding.

    This will shock you, but non-cops may even "lawfully" kill criminals in some situations. Cops are a comparatively new blight. What ever did the helpless folk do before their descent from above?
  66. @Sean

    Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police?
     
    All Arbery's troubles are over now, the McMichaels' are just begining and they are going to be pauperised by this. Trespassing is all he was guilty of, and the extended chase and blocking his way with a shotgun pointed at him then altering position when he tried to go the other way makes it look like an attempt to stage a 'stand your ground as a legally armed citizen' scenario, with the soon-to-be-deceased coming a straight into the double barrels and stopping rather than keep going under the assumption no man is going to choose to be justifiably homicided. The court will take into account the context of how that scenario came about as has been made clear in recent murder convictions in citizen shootings.

    The McMichaels now realise the definition of mentally ill behaviour is what is maladaptive, as they obviously did not before that such people are not that thin on the ground, and accordingly to point a loaded gun at someone behaving strangely (black man oddly dressed running through a strange white neighbourhood was not playing with full deck) in the expectation that he will behave rationally is a big gamble with the odds far from long ones life will be flushed down the toilet. If pointing a gun was a solution cops would never need call for back up or carry cuffs, batons, and tasers.
    ----

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/12/23/2F4376BD00000578-3357753-image-a-2_1449961753416.jpg

    The broad-faced and burly half Japanese Holtzclaw looks distinctly unwhite and dangerous. He seems to have had a thing for non consenting old black bodies and gone for increasingly elderly ones as his spree progressed culminating in the riskiest when he swooped on a law abiding 57 year old woman, who promptly made a complaint. While his sentence is excessive, the totality of the evidence (included DNA) and testimony against him (including someone with no criminal record) was far from weak. Being sexually interested in much older women is a surprisingly common fetish if a study of the stats from adult site searches is any guide.

    The “evidence” against Holtzclaw that you reported has already been disputed (actually demolished) by Michelle Malkin!

    • Replies: @Sean
    All-white jury convicted him. He only called one witness in his defence: his girlfriend. There was a trend in the crimes of him going for older and older black women and more respectable ones. What brought him down was when he targeted a 57 year old woman with no kind of record or charges against; she immediately made a complaint, and after he was Mirandaised he declined to have a lawyer present and made the astounding error of talking to the police. Nothing one says in those circumstances (being questioned as a suspect) could help, and they got something as they always do; checked with his girlfriend and caught him out in a lie about having had sex with her when he returned that night. Almost all the women who then came forward were low lifes but there was a pattern of them being 40 or more that fits with Holtzclaw having a ever greater interest in older black women.

    Holtzclaw patrol car locations had their GPS data for the relevant night shifts on record and they tallied with where the route by which the 17 year old said Holtzclaw took to the assault location, and her skin DNA was on his uniform pants. People get life in prison every day on less proof. His sentence is excessive, but he was happy to be part of that system and he knew what to expect.

  67. @Hans
    Thanks for the info on these "geniuses." Had not tracked their activities. One to file.

    https://files.catbox.moe/mtaj13.jpg

    Sounds like a potential Trayvon Martin retro-remix…

  68. If the glove does not fit, you must acquit!

  69. @Chris Mallory

    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?
     
    Would you:
    1) Turn to run and hope you are faster than that load of buckshot that will hit you in the back.
    2) Attempt to fight for your life.

    He wasn’t pointing the shotgun at him. The shotgun was pointed towards the ground. If someone came over to me with a shotgun pointing towards the GROUND–in an open-carry state–my instinct wouldn’t be to charge the guy and give him a reason to shoot me.

  70. @Patriot1776
    You are clearly a hate-monger, Michelle. Stop smearing this innocent man.

    Are you being sarcastic??? I hope so, if not, you’re another one that does not care about the facts – and they will come out!!!

  71. Blessings upon Saint McMichael, who cast the joggers out of heaven!

  72. @Anonymous
    These men are guilty of vigilante tactics that they started. But I don't believe Arbery was a jogger and I think he probably up to mischief. Call the police and wait m They have to prove their actions didn't warrant death

    He chose trial by combat, and the gods judged him guilty.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  73. map says:
    @Phoenix
    The DA's report has been released and along with the Full video, clearly shows this whole thing is a scam.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html

    https://youtu.be/fIve50vSeLQ

    So the “jogger” initiated the confrontation. He goes around the truck on the right and then attacks the younger McMichaels on the left.

    No, the jogger was not blocked by the guy he fought with. He actually goes to attack the guy with the shotgun whom he could have easily avoided.

    • Replies: @vbnnnnnn
    Arbery has a criminal history which includes possession of a firearm at a school function. This would be a good reason to arm yourself when confronting a suspect being followed down the street who had been observed leaving a building site that has a history of being burglarized.. They have a photo of Arbery in that building. To call him a jogger is the equivalent of calling a drug dealer a pharmacist. He was a suspect of a crime attempting to avoid being apprehended. I tried to put myself in Arbery's shoes. I use to jog but never stopped to snoop around where I didn't belong. Joggers might stop jogging and walk a bit but stopping would be very unusual had I stopped and entered a building under construction and then been approached I wouldn't have bolted but tried to explain what had possessed me. If they threatened to call the police I might either have told him here's my name and wrote it down just my name not my address. If the police wanted to talk to me they could find me. Or I might have said fine call them but make it fast I have shit to do. Had I really had criminal intend and bolted and now I'm facing more neighbors but these guys are armed I would have stopped but if I'd kept going running around the truck and right in front of me is this dude with a big old shotgun. I would have either turned around and tried something else but I know I would have stopped out of concern this guy could shoot me if I ran. What I would not have done is attempt to take the guys weapon from him. Arbery should have known the gig was up. His Mom shows him all dressed up in a tuxedo but that doesn't change who he is. Many years ago I worked on death row at a state prison. The inmates seemed remarkably normal. This one guy always smiled we'd chat a bit had a very congenial relationship. There are bars between us. One day I'm going down the tier pouring orange juice in these guys cups from a pitcher when I get to him and we're talking while I'm pouring and not paying attention I overfill his cup and it's running over onto his hand. He sort of laughs and I tell him I'm sorry but before I move on he says you know I like you and I said I like you too. He then says I like you but don't ever trust me I'll kill you if I get the chance. That day the humanity in him warned me there was another side to be careful. We all wear tuxedos but our past also shows a side of us. The day Arbery died he wasn't wearing a tuxedo.
  74. @Anonymous
    These men are guilty of vigilante tactics that they started. But I don't believe Arbery was a jogger and I think he probably up to mischief. Call the police and wait m They have to prove their actions didn't warrant death

    This was all detailed in a public letter from District Attorney George E. Barnhill, who has worked as a criminal prosecutor for 36 years.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    Barnhill wrote:
    “Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law, McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself.”

    • Replies: @gaston julia

    Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight
     
    He must have X-ray eyes or some kind of special District Attorney vision training. Personally, I've been trying for 40 years and I still can't see through trucks.
  75. @KA
    rbery was killed in February. One of his killers, Gregory McMichael, is a retired police detective. The other killer is McMichael’s son, Travis. One had a handgun, the other a shotgun. For more than two months, no charges were filed, despite the pleas from Arbery’s family. McMichael told his friends in the cop shop that he believed Arbery was a suspect in a string of robberies in the neighborhood in Brunswick. But police records show there’d only been one reported burglary in the past month. No charges were filed. The prosecutor, searching for an excuse, said the McMichaels had the right to detain Arbery under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away.

    Then, earlier this week, a cellphone video of the shooting surfaced, showing that Arbery was shot within mere seconds of being accosted by the McMichaels.-www.counterpunch.com https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/08/roaming-charges-aint-living-long-like-this/

    Like this "under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away”

    Will Syria or Venezuela or Serbia emulate this law ? What about Japan and Philippine?

    If you watch the video, then you see the “jogger” initiated the attack on the guy with the shotgun. He swings right on the truck then left to attack the guy. The shotgunner wasn’t blocking his path.

  76. rtm says:
    @Beavertales
    The accused are being over-charged.

    It was involuntary manslaughter at most. There was no malice of forethought.

    The evidence is that they did not confront the deceased with intent to kill. The video shows the deceased attacking the man with the shotgun. The circumstances were an unreasonable mistake on the McMichael's part, for which they should be held accountable.

    1 to 10 years in prison?

    1 to 10 years in prison?

    1 year tops, only to the shooter (the father?), and *only* if it is proven that he was violating any laws in the citizen’s arrest (as in, had no right to try to stop the “jogger”).
    Definitely, based on all the evidence I saw here, not a murder.
    There was no intent. Simple.

    Personally, without being familiar with the laws pertaining to citizen’s arrest, though, I would be inclined to let both walk free as acting in self-defence.

    I feel sympathy towards both.

  77. @KA
    rbery was killed in February. One of his killers, Gregory McMichael, is a retired police detective. The other killer is McMichael’s son, Travis. One had a handgun, the other a shotgun. For more than two months, no charges were filed, despite the pleas from Arbery’s family. McMichael told his friends in the cop shop that he believed Arbery was a suspect in a string of robberies in the neighborhood in Brunswick. But police records show there’d only been one reported burglary in the past month. No charges were filed. The prosecutor, searching for an excuse, said the McMichaels had the right to detain Arbery under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away.

    Then, earlier this week, a cellphone video of the shooting surfaced, showing that Arbery was shot within mere seconds of being accosted by the McMichaels.-www.counterpunch.com https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/08/roaming-charges-aint-living-long-like-this/

    Like this "under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away”

    Will Syria or Venezuela or Serbia emulate this law ? What about Japan and Philippine?

    You are mis-stating the events as depicted in the video and the findings of the Waycross DA. If your’re interested, both are available online:

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html

  78. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    This is not George Zimmerman redux.
    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
    It makes no difference if the black dude was KNOWN to be just previously engaged in property crimes. (And there hardly seems to be clear evidence supporting that….)
    These FUCKING MORONS, by their OWN TESTIMONY, confronted him in a hostile manner while displaying a gun.
    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don’t pause to reflect on your own moral state… AIM TO GET THE GUN!
    It does seem that this is not murder but rather homicide or manslaughter (and I do hope that justice prevails against the race hustlers), but this “father” is a jackass who has inflicted considerable harm on his son. But his son is a pussy for listening to a jackass father.
    They both deserve hard time, even if the black dude was a criminal.
    That’s what the facts suggest to me. Michelle Malkin sometimes calls it, but not this time.
    A genuinely stupid article. Race hustlers can get it right for the wrong reasons. DUH.

    • Replies: @Inverness

    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don’t pause to reflect on your own moral state… AIM TO GET THE GUN!
     
    And your point is: how well this turned out for the thug who appeared to have exactly this idea. Thanks for your contribution.
    , @Saggy

    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
     
    The audio of the event was recorded via a 911 call that was taking place when the shooting occured and you can hear the victim yelling 'Help' and moments later a shot. Zimmerman was armed and stalked and confronted Martin. Zimmerman's version is that he yelled help just before shooting Martin. He should have been convicted of 2nd degree murder.
    , @KenH

    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
     
    Watch the video. Arbery clearly bull rushes the younger McMichael while throwing punches. McMichael didn't fire a shot until after he was attacked.

    Now perhaps this was all a misunderstanding and mistaken identity but the McMichael's broke no Georgia laws. However, they did offend the sensibilities of black twitter, journos and social justice warriors around the nation which is a grievous offense.
    , @Neoconned
    Exactly they should have followed him & stayed on the phone w police til they showed up and let the cops handle it....
    , @Hibernian

    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don’t pause to reflect on your own moral state… AIM TO GET THE GUN!

     

    This I don't agree with, morally or practically. It's suicidal, unless you're another Chuck Norris, and maybe even if you are, if the gun is pointed at you, or close to it. If in fact the gun is pointed downward, it can be reasonably argued that you've become the aggressor. If the gun is pointed downward and the gun pointer is yelling and screaming, it moves into the same category as if the gun is pointed at you.
    , @thordaddy
    You are an idiot.

    If you have to RUN at your gun-toting rival, you are in no position to disarm and will likely be killed. Which is exactly what happened.

    If you thought you were going to be shot and not in a position to disarm, you would take cover, say, behind a large truck.

    If you thought two individuals were now taking aim and you are in no position to disarm either, you must RUN AND TAKE COVER as though you were truly being hunted.

    If, on the other hand, you think that these guys are just some rednecks that caught you peeking in a house while you were really just jogging and wanted to stop you and ask you what’s going on with gun-toting in Georgia being as normal as gang-banging in Atlanta then you just a) run off through the country side or b) just wait and show these rednecks up in front of the cops by making a big stink of their “racism” and intimidation with civil judgement dancing in the back of your mind.

    But as the DA said, this kid wasn’t of right mind.
  79. @Phoenix
    The DA's report has been released and along with the Full video, clearly shows this whole thing is a scam.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html

    https://youtu.be/fIve50vSeLQ

    Thanks for the information, which is definitive. Once again the left and its pet minorities will go to any lengths to push their false narrative down everyone’s throat, especially since they can depend on the corrupt media to collaborate.

    By now we should be well acquainted with the left’s perverted idea of justice:
    It consists of nothing but contrived interpretations about inner feelings and motives of the accused, after which any evidence is manipulated to legitimize the assumed motive. The left perpetrates any lie to enhance the power of the narrative at their enemy’s expense.

  80. Well, at least they didn’t rape the guy before they shot him, which is what our enterprising negroes tend to do when they’re out murdering innocent joggers.

  81. It is disappointing and shameful on UNZ to publish this kind of racism, by someone who is a well-known racist and an illiterate.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    The black 'jogger' rushed the older man and grabbed his shotgun which was pointed at the ground. It is plain as day on the video. The black 'jogger' at that point became the aggressor. If the two white men are convicted of murder, they will have been lynched. The video just does not depict what you wish it did, so you default to the worn-out 'racist' baloney of an anti-white bigot.
    , @Anonymous
    UNZ doesn't exist to wipe your ass for you. Feel free to go back where you came from, on the internet and in real life.
    , @MrTea
    Are you calling Michelle Malkin a racist and illiterate? I would recommend her book "Sold Out" as an antidote. Doubt the increasingly leftist C-Span BookTV editors will allow it on despite it being extremely relevant to the current labor market, especially in light of record unemployment. You want to see a real racist, and a publicly subsidized one at that:

    https://www.amren.com/news/2019/05/nyc-schools-chancellor-is-accused-of-pushing-out-white-administrators-in-favor-of-less-qualified-non-whites/
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/19/reporters-press-presidential-candidate-bill-de-blasio-toxic-whiteness/
  82. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    Jogging supplies.

    • LOL: Craig Nelsen
  83. @Exador
    Having watched the video, it's clear that Arbery is running AT a stopped pickup truck. Also, he initially runs down the middle of street, then moves to the right side as he gets to the pickup truck, then QUICKLY runs around the front of the truck and attacks McMichaels. The 911 call describes seeing Arbery burgling the home and the caller says that's it's an ongoing thing with this guy. His clothes are given as a description.
    Don't expect justice. Remember Charlottsville.

    Having watched the video, it’s clear that Arbery is running AT a stopped pickup truck.

    No. He was jogging at it.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  84. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @schnellandine

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?
     
    That question presumes guilt. It's circular, and hardly empathic.

    An innocent man has every instinctive reason to be pissed at armed accusers, however dangerous it may be. I'd tell them to F themselves. The average innocent black man (theoretical) might go farther, with cause.

    I don't think Arbery wasn't burgling, but him being pissed at the beer-gut clods weighs not against him in the search for guilt. I've been disgusted by acquaintances who through slop gun handling endangered others at a firing range. Adding strangers, intent, and false criminal accusations would go beyond. But whether the accusation was true, they screwed the pooch.

    I suspect this will turn out much like the Zimmerman mess, with many whites unable to admit that both parties were asses. The shooters here were worse than Zimmerman, and I doubt they'll be acquitted.

    An innocent man has every instinctive reason to be pissed at armed accusers, however dangerous it may be. I’d tell them to F themselves.

    You have a death wish, then? You should have that treated.

  85. @Longfisher
    Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn't worth my time to read this article.

    Exactly my thoughts… Other evidence and articles notwithstanding, this is not helpful. Present what goes to the heart of the matter and then hit the hustlers, or you only appear as a rabid partisan.

  86. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @vot tak
    Reason 2:

    So Let Me Get This Straight: Michelle Malkin Claims to Have Rewritten the History of Japanese Internment in Just 16 Months?

    http://hnn.us/articles/7094.html

    Do we really need to relearn the lessons of Japanese American internment?

    https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Do-we-really-need-to-relearn-the-lessons-of-2724896.php#ixzz1G4XdDKkU

    "But now the old accusations are back. Fox News media personality Michelle Malkin claims that some Japanese Americans were spies during World War II. Based upon her suspicions, Malkin claims the internment of all Japanese Americans was not such a bad idea after all. She goes on to claim that racial profiling of Arab Americans today is justified by the need to fight terrorism. According to Malkin, it is OK to take away an entire ethnic group's civil rights because some individuals are suspect. Malkin argues for reviving the old notion of guilt by association.

    It is painful to see reopened for serious debate the question of whether the government was justified in imprisoning Japanese Americans during World War II. It was my hope that my case and the cases of other Japanese American internees would be remembered for the dangers of racial and ethnic scapegoating.

    Fears and prejudices directed against minority communities are too easy to evoke and exaggerate, often to serve the political agendas of those who promote those fears. I know what it is like to be at the other end of such scapegoating and how difficult it is to clear one's name after unjustified suspicions are endorsed as fact by the government. If someone is a spy or terrorist they should be prosecuted for their actions. But no one should ever be locked away simply because they share the same race, ethnicity, or religion as a spy or terrorist. If that principle was not learned from the internment of Japanese Americans, then these are very dangerous times for our democracy."

    If that principle was not learned from the internment of Japanese Americans, then these are very dangerous times for our democracy.”

    We have a democracy? When did that happen? I thought that the American Government had taken over all important decisions and left the population out of the loop.
    Maybe you mean Trump’s election instituted a democracy.
    Nice try, but note that the election has been largely nullified by various means, including the attempt to criminally and fraudulently charge Trump’s appointees and, in fact, Trump himself. City governments are still bringing in foreigners in violation of US Federal law and claiming that they are the equivalent of citizens in determining city political influence, a rather obvious violation of both law and popular will. We now, in fact, have foreigners brought in illegally in areas where it is illegal for citizens to leave their house.
    I’d suggest that you think again.

    • Replies: @vot tak
    "I’d suggest that you think again."

    Actually I don't think the usa is a democracy and you are misrepresenting me. I suggest that you think again, trump wind-up toy.
  87. @Sean

    Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police?
     
    All Arbery's troubles are over now, the McMichaels' are just begining and they are going to be pauperised by this. Trespassing is all he was guilty of, and the extended chase and blocking his way with a shotgun pointed at him then altering position when he tried to go the other way makes it look like an attempt to stage a 'stand your ground as a legally armed citizen' scenario, with the soon-to-be-deceased coming a straight into the double barrels and stopping rather than keep going under the assumption no man is going to choose to be justifiably homicided. The court will take into account the context of how that scenario came about as has been made clear in recent murder convictions in citizen shootings.

    The McMichaels now realise the definition of mentally ill behaviour is what is maladaptive, as they obviously did not before that such people are not that thin on the ground, and accordingly to point a loaded gun at someone behaving strangely (black man oddly dressed running through a strange white neighbourhood was not playing with full deck) in the expectation that he will behave rationally is a big gamble with the odds far from long ones life will be flushed down the toilet. If pointing a gun was a solution cops would never need call for back up or carry cuffs, batons, and tasers.
    ----

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/12/23/2F4376BD00000578-3357753-image-a-2_1449961753416.jpg

    The broad-faced and burly half Japanese Holtzclaw looks distinctly unwhite and dangerous. He seems to have had a thing for non consenting old black bodies and gone for increasingly elderly ones as his spree progressed culminating in the riskiest when he swooped on a law abiding 57 year old woman, who promptly made a complaint. While his sentence is excessive, the totality of the evidence (included DNA) and testimony against him (including someone with no criminal record) was far from weak. Being sexually interested in much older women is a surprisingly common fetish if a study of the stats from adult site searches is any guide.

    This might be worthy of a thorough perusal….. https://www.uncufftheinnocent.org/daniel-holtzclaw

    This may be of some interest as well…. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgAs63Z16t0nnDI8nuLDcG7EO2AI70LM_

  88. @schnellandine

    The DA’s report has been released and along with the Full video, clearly shows this whole thing is a scam.
     
    Supposedly not only angle, though may be rumor.

    The second former prosecutor was done when that report was written, and he carves a justification for it based on an earlier conversation. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets slapped. Shouldn't have written what he did.

    Had he any foresight and interest in not dumping the Keystone cop-types into their present hell, he would've pursued, genuinely, charges less than murder soon after the first prosecutor's recusal. His brushoff of a dubious situation may have thrown the pickup twins into a lost decade. He did no favors. Should've counted that the video would leak.

    Vid doesn't exonerate unless one assumes the shooters get the same "shooter safety" bull cops get. Brandishing is a very dangerous, escalating thing, and doesn't work like in the movies. Almost universally, better to keep arms unknown until it's time to use them. Of course, a former cop will have cop disease, and likely influenced the son.

    Anyone who thinks the former second prosecutor didn't wrongly hand over a big helping of "professional courtesy" is on the pipe. Probably the first one too. They were clueless.

    You either didn’t read the report or you simply won’t face reality.

  89. Wuok says:

    I regretted reading this article. It is not worth reading- just complete waste of my time . It lacks clarity and detail. The writer himself is not well-informed about the murder, but that doesn’t stop him from blaming the victim. This is what is known as hatred in its purest form. It is the worst and immature article I have ever read on Unz.Review.

    • Replies: @450.org
    The author is guilty of the same thing Shaun King and Black Lives Matter are guilty of. Exploitation for political purposes. The truth gets lost in the morass stymying any chance at justice.
    , @Hibernian

    The writer himself...
     
    Herself. Michelle Malkin.
    , @thordaddy
    The headline was clear and the article was thorough.

    IF these three messengers are involved THEN their MESSAGE IS A LIE.

    And, of course, we have video proof of their lying message.

    Whatever happened to Arbery, “it” was NOT murder.

    And the IDEA that it was murder is nothing more than embracing the nigger point of view AND has NOTHING to do with what it true.

    So these messengers don’t just lie, they “blood libel” while claiming to be “hunted” down.

    And they won’t perceive the coherent connection for their lesser negroes.
  90. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    Of course he should stop, because if you’re innocent, you have nothing to fear from the police, especially if you’re black,right!But than again, blacks and Latinos have it in their blood, they are all rapists and murderers, according to Trump!

    • Replies: @Stan
    Have a problem with English comprehension? Provide the link to the news report where Trump said blacks and Latinos are all rapists and murderers.
    , @Cowtown Rebel
    I grew up in a predominantly Black neighborhood that has become largely Hispanic. For the last few years, the Negroes have been going around and robbing the Mexicans on payday. There was one group of Negro youth that were staging holdups right in the middle of the Mexican's yards. Some older Mexican men grabbed them and held them until the Police arrived. They made a citizen's arrest, comprende?

    There was another gang of Negroes in their late twenties who were going into the Cantinas and dragging the waitresses around by the hair while sticking them up. The Police did, unfortunately, catch the perpetrators, but hopefully, some other Negroes will pick up where they left off.

    The Black Flight from the Barrio has been an interesting development and has led to some truly satisfying conflicts. I really enjoy seeing the violent interactions between other races without Whitey to referee for them. Without the White Elmer's Glue holding this ugly, multicultural collage together, the Minorities do not get along.
    , @hoonky
    Yes...then why does the black community seem to choose poster children for its martyred saints like Trayvon or gentle giant, Michael Brown? No...they didn't "deserve" to be murdered. But they already have (or should have had) a rap sheet in their 20s and attempted to attack people carrying a weapon. Why would anyone think that they have a better chance of survival attacking someone brandishing a weapon who told them to stop? It makes me ponder why most NFL quarterbacks are pale.
  91. It’s past time wondering about the “rights and wrongs” of things. There’s only our White race now. Stand with the White men.

    • Replies: @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    "Our"?

    Speak for yourself. I am not white and I would never want to be.
  92. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:

    If certain black people would set aside just one day a week to not act so “N-word”y, the world would quickly become a better place.

    • Replies: @Jake
    Black have been promoted by certain whites ( WASP Elites starting with the ideas around Abolitionism) to act 'N-wordy' precisely to shown the white trash that it is meant to beg and crawl.
  93. @Beavertales
    The accused are being over-charged.

    It was involuntary manslaughter at most. There was no malice of forethought.

    The evidence is that they did not confront the deceased with intent to kill. The video shows the deceased attacking the man with the shotgun. The circumstances were an unreasonable mistake on the McMichael's part, for which they should be held accountable.

    1 to 10 years in prison?

    The charge should be littering!

    • Replies: @Trickster
    Well it was only temporary littering like when you drop a paper bag but retrieve it for the garbage. The trash was ultimately taken out, no pun intended !
  94. Okay, I have zero info on this event till today. The tape shows clearly, 1 man was unarmed and wrestling with a shotgun armed man. And it was three shots fired. Why did the driver of this vehicle not submit tape to the police?

  95. A couple UK tabloids referred to this as a Lynching. I guess we can tell which way they are blowing around in the SJW winds.

  96. So basically Malkin’s “reasons” are that the people sharing the video have unsavoury reputations, according to Malkin’s lights, not the fact that, as the video clearly shows, a black jogger was murdered in broad daylight by two white thugs?

    Thanks for posting this article anyway. I didn’t know about this episode but now I have downloaded the murder video and I’m most certainly going to share the hell out of it.

    • Replies: @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    Message accompanying the share I've sent around:

    Black jogger Ahmaud Arberry being murdered in broad daylight in Amerikastan by two armed white men, father and son, who overtook him in a pickup before stopping to kill him. This happened in February but only now have the pair finally been arrested. Amerikastani racist right winger Michelle Malkin, writing on the far right wing site Unz, which routinely posts white racist material, virtually calls the killing justified on the grounds that the people who put the video online - finally causing the arrest of the murderers - are liberals.
  97. Hans says:
    @Ko
    Good work Michelle. It puts a different background on the entire event. The people you wrote about are definitely racists, liars, and opportunists.

    However, even if the jogger was guilty of something, we don't know yet, were the men justified in acting as vigilantes which resulted in the joggers death?

    Looking at the even itself, it looks like 2nd degree murder.

    Not sure how it’s vigilantism. Mr. Armed Robbery did a Michael Brown and tried to take the weapon. From the D.A.’s letter:

    OCGA17-4-60 “A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge . If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion .”

    “From said video it appears Ahmaud Arbery was running along the right side of the McMichael truck then abruptly turns 90 degrees to the left and attacks Travis McMichael who was standing at the front left corner of the truck . A brief skirmish ensues in which it appear Arbery strikes McMichael and appears to grab the shotgun and pull it from McMichael The shot is through Arbery’s right hand palm which is consistent with him grabbing and pulling the shotgun at the barrel tip, the 2nd and 3rd wounds are consistent with the struggle for the shotgun as depicted in the video , the angle of the 2nd shot with the rear of the butt stock being pushed away and down from the fight are also consistent with the upward angle of blood plume shown in the video and that McMichael was attempting to push the gun away from Arbery while Arbery was pulling it toward himself. The 3rd shot too appears to be in a struggle over the gun. The angle of the shots and the video show this was from the beginning or almost immediately became– a fight over the shotgun .
    Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself. Just as importantly, while we know McMichael had his finger on the trigger, we do not know who caused the firings. Arbery would only had to pull the shotgun approximately 1/ 16th to 1/8th of one inch to fire weapon himself and in the height of an altercation this is entirely possible . Arbery s mental health records & prior convictions help explain his apparent aggressive nature and his possible thought pattern to attack an armed man .”

    Some have said Robbery’s clothing is inconsistent with the description of him as a “jogger.” I can accept it may be true which would explain his casing the work site looking for a beverage. I still am not sure where Robbery’s residence was.

    Mrs. Malkin seems to have provoked the trolls by providing such useful info on the marketing firm. Thank you very much for you good works, MM.

    ‘The Trayvon Hoax’ Gets A Reboot With The Shooting Death Of Ahmaud Arbery – https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    The Trayvon Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America – https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

    • Agree: Half Back
    • Replies: @Ko
    Any normal man would defend himself against another man suddenly confronting him while holding a rifle in an aggressive manner.
    , @Ko
    and the fact that you call people who hold opinions other than your own, "trolls" makes you look like a woketard.
    , @europeasant
    “From said video it appears Ahmaud Arbery was running along the right side of the McMichael truck then abruptly turns 90 degrees to the left and attacks Travis McMichael who was standing at the front left corner of the truck . A brief skirmish ensues in which it appear Arbery strikes McMichael and appears to grab the shotgun and pull it from McMichael The shot is through Arbery’s right hand palm which is consistent with him grabbing and pulling the shotgun at the barrel tip"

    That's what I saw in that video. Arbery went on the offense but yet many , many are saying that Arbery was hunted down and shot. It looks like to me that Arbery wanted to fight.

    That being said, I would recommend staying away from Negroes. The Derbyshire rules still apply.
  98. @Miranda
    Look at the ANCHOR BABY MALKIN stirring up crap, as usual. If your parents weren't here on work visas, you'd be another Philippina in a slum.

    More like a hooker near the former American bases …

  99. @vot tak
    Typical white trash convicts:

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200508074711-greg-travis-mcmichael-mugshot-large-169.jpg

    Don’t judge them by the color of their skin but by the contents of their characters …

    • Replies: @vot tak
    OK, butt bandit.

    They are white trash.

    White trash in pindoland isn't really racial, but cultural. It's a clamoring to reach the bottom of moral decay before anyone else does. It's about being pissed on and loving it because it came from some one more wealthy. It's being a foot soldier in one's own exploitation and thinking one is some sort independent thinker. It's ultimately about conformity and kissing arse, while thinking one is exceptional, superior, the master race for doing so.

    Got it, shlomo.
  100. eah says:

    The admitted liar was not prosecuted based on a technicality.

    I’m reminded of the decision not to prosecute all the Blacks who lied under oath to the Grand Jury investigating the Michael Brown case in Ferguson MO.

    I have not watched the Ahmaud Arbery video, nor have I read anything about what happened — but I don’t think what Shaun King did in the past is necessarily relevant to the facts of the Ahmaud Arbery case, whatever those are/turn out to be.

    I watched the Sherita Dixon-Cole bodycam video up until the point she was placed under arrest and handcuffed for DWI — she did not really look or sound intoxicated, and seemed to perform OK on the field sobriety tests — but I wasn’t there, did not observe her driving before the stop or during the tests, and recognize there is some discretion in such cases, so I’m willing to give the officer, whose behavior seemed professional and courteous, the benefit of the doubt.

    Per the title, I expected to find specific things about the Ahmaud Arbery case that would undermine the developing media ‘lynching’ narrative — but I found none — unfortunately, this kind of article is why I generally cannot take Michelle Malkin completely seriously.

  101. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tulip
    Whereby Ned Beatty's squeals become magically transmuted into the sounds of a Gregorian Chant for the Unz Crowd.

    Tulip seems familiar with…and perhaps not a little too interested in…”fundament penetrations.” Does Rover peg him/her nightly? Do “fundament things” apply to him/her as time goes by?

  102. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Hmmm. Is the new PC term for violent niggerword-criminals…”joggers”?

  103. @gotmituns
    It's past time wondering about the "rights and wrongs" of things. There's only our White race now. Stand with the White men.

    “Our”?

    Speak for yourself. I am not white and I would never want to be.

    • Replies: @The Grim Joker
    Thank God for that. We would not want you to be either !
    , @Jeff Stryker
    Last I heard Africans were experiencing some racism from the Bongs in Calcutta.
  104. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    So basically Malkin's "reasons" are that the people sharing the video have unsavoury reputations, according to Malkin's lights, not the fact that, as the video clearly shows, a black jogger was murdered in broad daylight by two white thugs?

    Thanks for posting this article anyway. I didn't know about this episode but now I have downloaded the murder video and I'm most certainly going to share the hell out of it.

    Message accompanying the share I’ve sent around:

    Black jogger Ahmaud Arberry being murdered in broad daylight in Amerikastan by two armed white men, father and son, who overtook him in a pickup before stopping to kill him. This happened in February but only now have the pair finally been arrested. Amerikastani racist right winger Michelle Malkin, writing on the far right wing site Unz, which routinely posts white racist material, virtually calls the killing justified on the grounds that the people who put the video online – finally causing the arrest of the murderers – are liberals.

    • Replies: @Anon

    writing on the far right wing site Unz
     
    Stupid characterization of Georgia killing. And stupid pigeonholing of Unz Review, since you have many columnists on UR who’ve spent their entire writing career in far-left media until they refused to toe the line on support for neolib (neocon) agenda of the Anglo-Zionist empire. A few columnists at UR were purged from far-left CounterPunch after CP got on board with the neolib agenda. Malkin was only picked up by Unz after she was excommunicated from mainstream conservative media and “Conservative Inc.” after associating with some on the alt-right.

    So I would say UR is more a fringe site, both left and right (and every other direction). I mean, where else would you find a website where its owner and main columnist is praising and promoting the research group of the Nation of Islam and a link to order their book? Unz thinks it’s the most thoroughly researched with the best analysis of any book he’s read on the subject.

    Ron Unz:

    ...once I began reading the 500 pages of The Leo Frank Case: The Lynching of a Guilty Man I was tremendously impressed by the quality of the historical analysis. I think I have only very rarely encountered a research monograph on a controversial historical event that provided such an enormous wealth of carefully-argued analysis backed by such copious evidence. The authors seemed to display complete mastery of the major secondary literature of the last one hundred years while drawing very heavily upon the various primary sources, including court records, personal correspondence, and contemporaneous publications, with the overwhelming majority of the 1200 footnotes referencing newspaper and magazine articles of that era.”

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

    https://secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.150/5j6.062.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Front-Back-TSRv3-e1498868979837.png
     
    , @Jeff Stryker
    Oh Bong, as if Canada is not a stan. As if the whites there are not racist towards the Natives.

    And Brampton is as bad as Chicago.

    Indians in the US are a higher-caste than in Canada, so it is hard to know if it is genetic codes or white rednecks or simply the US police state that keeps Indians more in check in Georgia than Brampton. American posters here would be surprised that they can mugged in Brampton. Some of them would be.

    Unlike most Americans, I've spent time in both Canada and India. Much more in India.

  105. a lot of money to be made in the “Whitey dun hurt us again” business. (go fund me page at 350,000 dollars in less than a week) These lawyers work to manufacture a greater race divide that the deep state seems all good with. After all, what ppl think is true holds more weight than what is actually true and less dangerous, thus the reasons why we are being false-flagged to death.

  106. @EliteCommInc.
    Good grief,

    stop being so obtuse about this. It doesn't matter whether he was Mary Poppins of Atilla the Hun. There was no probable cause at that moment for any detainment by anyone, muchless citizens. He was jogging not a crime, even if one is jogging in a white neighborhood. Even if he was casing the neighborhood . . . he was jogging period.

    Had there been such as a an issue, the matter should have been forwarded to the police, but at that moment his presence was as all others regardless of another's suspicions. We have a had a rash of pett crimes in my neighborhood, this last week, there have been brown skinned people seen walking and jogging --- more than rare.


    Their presence benevolent or otherwise is not grounds for anything - even I suspect they are involved in said crimes. This game of what about, and hip hopping across the past or suspicions . . . does not constitute probable cause, especialy for citizens.


    I have never robbed anyone (save for that silliness as a kid), I have not engage in stealing, gang or rusta bouts, I don't drink, smoke, or engage in drug use --

    yet I have a criminal record -- all of it directly relate to issues with the police. It got serious when I was stopped -- get this for stopping short when a jay walker ran in from of my car . . . yet, the officer pulled me over despite being right behind me. He had no idea why he stopped me when asked . . .

    it was one of the most bizarre and telling incidents in my view about the arbitrariness of government power --- let's get something straight -- without being any kind of habitual law breaker, if the someone with power wants to create problems for you -- they and will. And that is the game we have played with blacks especially black men -- get them a record, as many as possible -- so that should we decide to shoot them, beat them up, or any manner destroy their lives -- we can always fall back on that past ---- who are ever convenient suspects past or no past. We have spent more than 200 years painting them as criminals- especially men --- might as well use it.

    I care not a lick if the gentleman was Dr. Livingston or Wayne Gacy -- jogging and being seen on is not cause for restraint. Had he been weaving about houses, entered someone's car -- heck, even looking in someone's car -- maybe ---

    But anyone confronted by two civilians wielding a weapon and makes the choice to defend his right to be in public ---

    the muckraking here is simply avoiding the obvious. At least try be a conservative. My not liking your looks is not grounds for a citizens arrest.

    An the city's response thus far is an indication of a deeper ethos that is applied to indiscriminately, most likely to skin color and no citizen should be countenancing that nonsense.

    You have a ton of opinions and preconceptions but do not appear to have familiarized yourself with any of the facts of the case. For this reason it’s somewhat odd that you believe it’s your proper role to lecture everyone else.

  107. @vot tak
    Reason 3:

    Malkin was off-base with her La Raza column

    https://www.lowellsun.com/2006/07/30/malkin-was-off-base-with-her-la-raza-column/

    "Michelle Malkin’s July 14 column, “How radical La Raza gets federal subsidies,” is filled with inaccuracies about our organization, the National Council of La Raza."

    Screw you,amigo.

    • Replies: @vot tak
    "Screw you,amigo."

    No chance of that, alter boi. Happy to disappoint you. Don your kneepads and go see your priest. :-D
  108. @Anonymous
    This is not George Zimmerman redux.
    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
    It makes no difference if the black dude was KNOWN to be just previously engaged in property crimes. (And there hardly seems to be clear evidence supporting that....)
    These FUCKING MORONS, by their OWN TESTIMONY, confronted him in a hostile manner while displaying a gun.
    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don't pause to reflect on your own moral state... AIM TO GET THE GUN!
    It does seem that this is not murder but rather homicide or manslaughter (and I do hope that justice prevails against the race hustlers), but this "father" is a jackass who has inflicted considerable harm on his son. But his son is a pussy for listening to a jackass father.
    They both deserve hard time, even if the black dude was a criminal.
    That's what the facts suggest to me. Michelle Malkin sometimes calls it, but not this time.
    A genuinely stupid article. Race hustlers can get it right for the wrong reasons. DUH.

    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don’t pause to reflect on your own moral state… AIM TO GET THE GUN!

    And your point is: how well this turned out for the thug who appeared to have exactly this idea. Thanks for your contribution.

  109. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    You had me till you started making blanket statements about “what all Negroes do” something that immediately defines you as a race hater and will undermine the rest of your likely fair points. Once defined as a white supremacist (which has been made equivalent to race-hater) 90% of the public will ignore anything you say, fairly or not.
    It’s been a losing habit for years now, this defamation habit we got; yes, I know whites are defamed but that is with deep state support (for it has an anti-white agenda) which then fools the public into believing the blasphemy; without that support, our unkind words become signs that we are Nazis and holocaust deniers, both topics not allowed for discussion in the MSM and thus we lose, end of conversation

    • Replies: @RodW
    Don’t be so defeatist. When we see how many other people think as we do, we take encouragement from that and resolve not to be cowed into silence any more. Try it for yourself.
  110. “”So, citizen’s arrest with probably cause is not legal in Georgia?”

    Laugh.

    I hate to break the news to you —-

    jogging, walking, even acting in a suspicious manner is not a crime. Though we have as a condition made that the case for no small number of blacks — know that some number of the same are going to stand and say no. Even if on its face it makes no sense to take someone on with a weapon —-

    If you enact a citizen’s arrest, there had better be a crime in place or a warrant for that individual . .

    They assumed because they had weapons, the person would comply —- he was under no obligation to do so — bb gun, shotgun, water pistol or M1 tank at the ready withstanding. The age of whiteness alone having any authority is long past overdue for retirement.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    About 10 years ago, I had to live (for work) in the burbs of a large Northeastern city (think Baltimore) for a month.

    One schitthole part of the city was full of poor blacks and hispanics. One warm spring morning a 9 yr old hispanic girl was walking to school alone. She cut theough an alley and was accosted by a negro who grabbed her. He tore her clothes and probably would have done much worse, but she got away and ran. She told her mother and the news spread throughout the block. The cops were also called.

    The local layabout men put down their morning joints and scoured the area. They suspected a local halfwit perv, a black hispanic guy. There was no evidence, just a vaguely similar description from the girl, who had never seen him before.

    Anyway, a large mob of the local men (all negro/hispanic themselves) found him. Several started beating the schitt out of him while a few cooler heads tried to keep him alive for the cops. Cops got there soon after and basically saved this guy's life. As it was, he was severely beaten and was hospitalized for days.

    My point? The mayor, city council, local newspaper, and the public commended the local posse for hunting this guy down. They were "heroes". No problem with 10-12 men beating him half to death-many citizens indicated they wish he had been killed. Now, no one saw the guy do anything. He had rights, due process, etc. The girl was unharmed except for a torn shirt.

    You got any problems with that? Or do you see any difference?

    , @thordaddy
    Sure...

    But the video DOES NOT ACTUALLY SHOW Arbery being “stopped,” “detained,” “refrained,” nor making any physical contact UNTIL that contact initiated by Arbery.
  111. When I first saw this I was outraged. Then I wondered why someone was filming it. After that I just felt very uncomfortable about the whole thing. Much more than meets the eye here.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  112. Jake says:
    @Richard B
    All of this happens for one reason only.

    Whites have a self-preservation chip missing from their DNA.*

    The hostile elite and their POC proxies know this.

    For example, if anyone under the Identity Politics umbrella is "attacked" they don't say to each other, "One of us was attacked." and do nothing.

    They scream in unison "WE were attacked!" and immediately spring into action.

    And Whites?

    This latest incident is simply another case in point.

    *Given that it takes about a million years to develop a new genetic attribute, it doesn't look good for Whites. Even for the anti-White Whites. A fact they seem blissfully unaware of.

    Your conclusion highlights in huge bold letters, that you are part of the problem: you are a materialist. That means that you do allow yourself to see, much less comprehend, the most important fact in this situation: no white ethnic or national group could be described as either so concerned for uplifting non-whites that they would allow non-whites to bludgeon whites into a Cromwellian position (instead of Hell or Connacht, it NOW is a new serfdom or death), or else be so individualistic that they cannot see that harms inflicted on masses of whites serious threats to their futures.

    That duo of mental self-destruction is common across various white peoples today, but not in 1400, because of cultural changes. Those changes began to be implanted with the Reformation, and the Enlightenment made them absolutely central.

    The answer is not Darwinian; the answer is religious culture.

    First, and foremost, there is not and never was and never can be any such thing as white culture. But there was an overarching culture of Christendom, which gave and nurtured identities worth having, identities worth fighting to save.

    This is a spiritual and religious war. The only way to win it, the only way not to lose eventually, is to strive to rebuild Christendom.

    Here is a Chronicles article that may help some people grasp the point https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2020/April-May/44/4/magazine/article/10885488/

    The absence in the lives of these callers is all that Christendom provided and nurtured. White people have been stripped of almost all that mattered most by their Elites, who chose to keep fighting to destroy Christendom. Empty shells cannot save themselves.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Richard B

    Your conclusion highlights in huge bold letters, that you are part of the problem: you are a materialist. That means that you do allow yourself to see, much less comprehend, the most important fact in this situation: no white ethnic or national group could be described as either so concerned for uplifting non-whites that they would allow non-whites to bludgeon whites into a Cromwellian position (instead of Hell or Connacht, it NOW is a new serfdom or death), or else be so individualistic that they cannot see that harms inflicted on masses of whites serious threats to their futures.
     
    Bad thinking, bad writing.

    One follows the other like a drunken sailor following a disease-ridden prostitute down a dark alley.

    The above quote is a perfect example.


    The answer is not Darwinian
     
    From a comment that shows not the slightest comprehension of what Darwin wrote.

    First, and foremost, there is not and never was and never can be any such thing as white culture.
     
    Followed by

    White people have been stripped of almost all that mattered most by their Elites
     
    Part of the fun of being alive today is in spotting the many examples of Dunning-Kruger Effect. It's literally everywhere.
  113. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... there is a reason that lawyers are not allowed to bring up a defendants past actions in a case.

    that should apply here.
     

    That's not the point of Michelle Malkin's column here, Mr. Blooger. The article is mostly about two hate-mongers, Shaun King and Lee Merritt, who have gotten people killed and caused who knows how many billions of dollars in property damage from the fall-out from their hate-mongering.

    Mrs. Malkin probably could have picked a better title, as you wrote, but that's a minor point, IMO. This is journalism about bad journalism, as in the promotion of the narrative, no matter how many lies must be told. Most journalism is bad journalism, keeping us up with the narrative (or not, in my case).

    i think you made my point quite well achmed. the article has no info about the actual crime mentioned in the headline.

    it’s about the race baiters.

    and no, the article is NOT about bad journalism because there is no correction of the actual story.

    if you were defending the mcmichaels, would your defense pivot on the fact that his lawyers were racebaiters or the facts of the case?

    if you were to try king and his cohort for fraud, by all means have at them with the info in this article.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yes, this is most certainly about journalism, the TV kind for the most part. Did you see my 1st comment? That's my point. These race-baiters, (hate-mongers, whatever the best term is for those scum bags) would get NOWHERE without a Lyin' Press that puts all their BS in the spotlight. This video is a great example. We get one part of the story with Big-Media's on-the-spot one-side interpretation for us all.

    Mrs. Malkin does everyone a service by pointing out who these race-hustlers, trotted out by the Lyin' Press to push their narrative, really are. I'm not these 2 Georgian's defense lawyer. This is not gonna be about law so much anyway, unfortunately. See Trayvon II - The Media Empire Strikes Back with plenty of credit given to the site Mr. Realist up top pointed to - Information Liberation.
  114. @Anonymous
    If certain black people would set aside just one day a week to not act so "N-word"y, the world would quickly become a better place.

    Black have been promoted by certain whites ( WASP Elites starting with the ideas around Abolitionism) to act ‘N-wordy’ precisely to shown the white trash that it is meant to beg and crawl.

  115. The video is disturbing to watch. No wonder it aroused such a powerful reaction after it went into circulation. The two guys ambushed the jogger, presented a violent treat and incited the murderous outcome. This is no “citizen’s arrest” issue. Civil society doesn’t work this way – this is the way of disillusion and breakdown. It doesn’t matter what kind of life the young man that was jogging down the road had led. All Americans have the same rights. It doesn’t matter who has taken up the cause of justice. What is worse to consider than what is seen on the video is that they would have gotten away uncharged within that community if not for the broader outrage.

    How can Michelle write this piece after watching that video? I can’t help but wonder if it’s deliberate racist baiting.

    • Replies: @Maddaugh
    Hopefully you will never have an encounter with a black man, you comment will take an about turn.
    , @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    You're suggesting common sense on a site that routinely posts white racist material, the comment section of which is crawling with white racists, and which goes looking for scum like Malkin - who is persona non grata even among far right wing vermin like Ben Shapiro who wants Palestinians genocided - to post. You are, unfortunately, in the wrong place for that.
  116. Once the “jogger” (wearing saggy shorts and work boots) was terminated, did the burglaries in the neighborhood stop?
    No further questions, your Honor

    • Replies: @Maddaugh
    Yes, the curve flattened and the other monkeys self quarantined. The Police now have nothing to do !
  117. Unz should not publish this garbage. We know he wasn’t just a jogger, he was a n*****.

  118. Saggy says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    This is not George Zimmerman redux.
    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
    It makes no difference if the black dude was KNOWN to be just previously engaged in property crimes. (And there hardly seems to be clear evidence supporting that....)
    These FUCKING MORONS, by their OWN TESTIMONY, confronted him in a hostile manner while displaying a gun.
    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don't pause to reflect on your own moral state... AIM TO GET THE GUN!
    It does seem that this is not murder but rather homicide or manslaughter (and I do hope that justice prevails against the race hustlers), but this "father" is a jackass who has inflicted considerable harm on his son. But his son is a pussy for listening to a jackass father.
    They both deserve hard time, even if the black dude was a criminal.
    That's what the facts suggest to me. Michelle Malkin sometimes calls it, but not this time.
    A genuinely stupid article. Race hustlers can get it right for the wrong reasons. DUH.

    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)

    The audio of the event was recorded via a 911 call that was taking place when the shooting occured and you can hear the victim yelling ‘Help’ and moments later a shot. Zimmerman was armed and stalked and confronted Martin. Zimmerman’s version is that he yelled help just before shooting Martin. He should have been convicted of 2nd degree murder.

    • LOL: eah, Genrick Yagoda
    • Replies: @eah
    The audio of the event was recorded via a 911 call that was taking place when the shooting occured and you can hear the victim yelling ‘Help’ and moments later a shot.

    Actually it was Zimmerman yelling because Martin was on top of him, punching him in the face and pounding his head into the ground (corroborated by Zimmerman's injuries) -- when he first listened to the tape of the 9/11 call, Martin's own father said the voice of the person yelling was not that of his son (he later lied and denied he said that) -- several people who knew Zimmerman said it was his voice.

    Zimmerman stalked followed Martin because after a series of break-ins he found Martin suspicious, which was not unreasonable, everything considered; and it is not illegal to follow someone -- Zimmerman never "confronted" Martin; it was Martin who more or less ambushed and physically attacked Zimmerman -- Martin was 5'11" and a strong young hardass black man; Zimmerman was only 5'7", and built like the Pillsbury Doughboy -- yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help -- that is ridiculous.

    But people like you are usually impervious to such facts/arguments.

  119. @rtm
    So, you determine the guilt/innocence in a murder case based on the advocates for one of the parties?
    How about focusing on the evidence itself?

    Agreed. The video is an indictment in and of itself. If this jogger was a burglar, would he be jogging down the road right into the waiting clutches of these two vigilantes? No, he would be running from them and not in the middle of the road. This is murder. Not manslaughter. Murder. Second degree. I care not who is representing this poor kid and his parents. Justice is blind about that and should be.

    Fyi, Black Lives Matter is bullshit and Shaun King is a race-baiting scumbag. That doesn’t change the facts of this case. No way the black kid jogging in this video is a burglar and sorry, I refuse to take the McMichael’s word for it. Of course they’ll say anything at this point to save their skin.

    • Replies: @Epaminondas
    Ahmed was 12 miles from home. That implies he was on a 24-mile "jog". That's a long way to run dressed in long pants and boots. He already had a rap sheet for burglary. He couldn't hold down a job and had a serious marijuana habit. His family had already expressed to authorities that he was a problem. He was seen coming out of the construction project and told to stop because police had been called. You will not get a conviction for murder based on these facts. Other witnesses will come forward. And by the way, you are a dimwit for swallowing the MSM propaganda so quickly.
  120. @Anon
    I bet the McMichaels now wish that they had called the police. They were not on their own land, they were on a public street. The police tell you that if you see a suspect, notify the police. Do not try and detain the suspect yourself.

    If the younger McMichael had a bodycam, the whole whole "Ahmed charged the shooter" footage would have been caught on video. Having a friend tail you in another vehicle makes it look like you were anticipating things may escalate into a gunfire-incident. We pay law enforcement to do this for us, espescially when not on our own land. We dont legally have the right to detain anyone for questioning. The McMichaels are probably going to jail for this, when they could have called the police, gave them the info, and the running man gets legally questioned. Its not worth the risk. Whites will be blamed for anything that goes wrong by our media.

    Having a friend tail you in another vehicle makes it look like you were anticipating things may escalate into a gunfire-incident.

    Then it’s a good thing for them that isn’t what happened. So… time to take your crystal ball to the shop for a rebuild.

  121. @Wuok
    I regretted reading this article. It is not worth reading- just complete waste of my time . It lacks clarity and detail. The writer himself is not well-informed about the murder, but that doesn't stop him from blaming the victim. This is what is known as hatred in its purest form. It is the worst and immature article I have ever read on Unz.Review.

    The author is guilty of the same thing Shaun King and Black Lives Matter are guilty of. Exploitation for political purposes. The truth gets lost in the morass stymying any chance at justice.

  122. @EliteCommInc.
    Good grief,

    stop being so obtuse about this. It doesn't matter whether he was Mary Poppins of Atilla the Hun. There was no probable cause at that moment for any detainment by anyone, muchless citizens. He was jogging not a crime, even if one is jogging in a white neighborhood. Even if he was casing the neighborhood . . . he was jogging period.

    Had there been such as a an issue, the matter should have been forwarded to the police, but at that moment his presence was as all others regardless of another's suspicions. We have a had a rash of pett crimes in my neighborhood, this last week, there have been brown skinned people seen walking and jogging --- more than rare.


    Their presence benevolent or otherwise is not grounds for anything - even I suspect they are involved in said crimes. This game of what about, and hip hopping across the past or suspicions . . . does not constitute probable cause, especialy for citizens.


    I have never robbed anyone (save for that silliness as a kid), I have not engage in stealing, gang or rusta bouts, I don't drink, smoke, or engage in drug use --

    yet I have a criminal record -- all of it directly relate to issues with the police. It got serious when I was stopped -- get this for stopping short when a jay walker ran in from of my car . . . yet, the officer pulled me over despite being right behind me. He had no idea why he stopped me when asked . . .

    it was one of the most bizarre and telling incidents in my view about the arbitrariness of government power --- let's get something straight -- without being any kind of habitual law breaker, if the someone with power wants to create problems for you -- they and will. And that is the game we have played with blacks especially black men -- get them a record, as many as possible -- so that should we decide to shoot them, beat them up, or any manner destroy their lives -- we can always fall back on that past ---- who are ever convenient suspects past or no past. We have spent more than 200 years painting them as criminals- especially men --- might as well use it.

    I care not a lick if the gentleman was Dr. Livingston or Wayne Gacy -- jogging and being seen on is not cause for restraint. Had he been weaving about houses, entered someone's car -- heck, even looking in someone's car -- maybe ---

    But anyone confronted by two civilians wielding a weapon and makes the choice to defend his right to be in public ---

    the muckraking here is simply avoiding the obvious. At least try be a conservative. My not liking your looks is not grounds for a citizens arrest.

    An the city's response thus far is an indication of a deeper ethos that is applied to indiscriminately, most likely to skin color and no citizen should be countenancing that nonsense.

    Agree.

  123. Shaun King lives at 804 Lincoln Place in Brooklyn. It is a multi million dollar listing. Look up the pics on zillow and compare it to photos on his and his wifes IG. Exact house; but he tries to act like he doesnt get rich off of this shit. They also spent minimum $3000 on. VIP Universal package; also pics on IG and then went to Disneyworld for a week like two months ago. He has now quarantined his entire family for over a month in a Air bnb in the mountains while still being able to afford his multi million dollar house.

    • Replies: @Trickster
    I am shocked at these revelations. A black man who exploits his own, living the high and mighty life while his bros battle cockroaches in a rundown tenement. But then again this is typical behaviour of the black man. Look at Nigeria and Angola, two oil rich states where the black Dictators, their families and friends are worth billions yet their fellow blacks live in shanties on a dollar a day. These people treat their own worse than the white man ever did. Wherever they go whether separated by time or space the behaviour is the same.
  124. Anonymous[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miranda
    Look at the ANCHOR BABY MALKIN stirring up crap, as usual. If your parents weren't here on work visas, you'd be another Philippina in a slum.

    Miranda, how is the author’s background relevant to the article? What is relevant is that none of these schvartzers would be granted public existence if it didn’t further the interests of those who own the MSM, which in this case is culpable incitement of black-on-white violence.

    • Replies: @meena
    "author’s background relevant to the article”


    That will take the past activities --sucking up to some anti Arab guys on stupid Fox to understand .

    "incitement of black-on-white violence.” She has been inciting for long time .
    , @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    The author's background is relevant because a racist ratbag like Malkin, with a history of being a racist ratbag, cannot be relied upon to tell even 0.000000000001% of the truth about any topic like this one. And, yes, as a fellow brown person, I call her a racist ratbag because brown people are often the best allies of white racists against the blacks.
  125. @TroofTwawler
    No, the prosecutor will have to prove death was the intended outcome at the beginning of the encounter. Georgia is not one of them limp wrist states where you are required to hide under the bed while the bad guy does whatever he wants. If he did charge them in a threatening manner, especially if they were holding guns on him, well, they could say they were in fear of their lives, after all, no sane person would charge a shotgun right? He was a bit tardy too correct? Self defense is going to have a strong prominence here.

    If two armed people decide to impede the actions of a third, unarmed, person, how exactly can they fear for their lives? And if they do, why don’t they just stop their actions that lead to them being afraid in the first place?

    • Replies: @Lowe
    You are right that the armed men showed bad judgment confronting the jogging black guy like they did.

    H/e self defense is a workable defense, since the video shows him turning left abruptly, back toward them, for whatever reason. He was not trying to run away, which supports the claim that he initiated it.
  126. @Anon
    I bet the McMichaels now wish that they had called the police. They were not on their own land, they were on a public street. The police tell you that if you see a suspect, notify the police. Do not try and detain the suspect yourself.

    If the younger McMichael had a bodycam, the whole whole "Ahmed charged the shooter" footage would have been caught on video. Having a friend tail you in another vehicle makes it look like you were anticipating things may escalate into a gunfire-incident. We pay law enforcement to do this for us, espescially when not on our own land. We dont legally have the right to detain anyone for questioning. The McMichaels are probably going to jail for this, when they could have called the police, gave them the info, and the running man gets legally questioned. Its not worth the risk. Whites will be blamed for anything that goes wrong by our media.

    We dont legally have the right to detain anyone for questioning.

    I’ll bet you take your car to Jiffy Screwed. Just a hunch.

    Ethically, when dealing with criminals, we have all sorts of rights you can’t comprehend. “Legally”, in the instant state, non-cops have the power to detain and restrain, under conditions which it isn’t clear were met, recused prosecutor jive notwithstanding.

    This will shock you, but non-cops may even “lawfully” kill criminals in some situations. Cops are a comparatively new blight. What ever did the helpless folk do before their descent from above?

    • Replies: @vot tak
    "What We Know About the Killing of Ahmaud Arbery

    https://www.thecut.com/2020/05/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-georgia-explainer.html

    "According to the statement from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Tom Durden, the district attorney now assigned to the case, formally requested that the GBI look into Arbery’s death on May 5, the day the video appeared. Thirty-six hours later, Travis and Gregory McMichael were booked at the Glynn County Jail. At a news conference on May 8, GBI director Vic Reynolds said their investigation was straightforward. “The video was already out, we saw it, we reviewed the rest of the file, and we made an arrest,” he said. “Probable cause was clear to our agents pretty quickly.”

    Of the previous prosecutors, he said, “I can’t answer what another agency did or didn’t see. But I can tell you that, based on our involvement in this case and considering the fact we hit the ground running Wednesday morning and within 36 hours we had secured warrants for two individuals for felony murder, I think that speaks volumes for itself.”

    Let's see, who is more credible here? The professionals quoted above or some white supremacist blowhard posting opinionated diarrhea on a website? Hey, it's a real tough call, aint it. :-D
  127. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    I haven’t really been following this but is there photographic or fingerprint evidence that he was attempting to burglarize something?

  128. KenH says:
    @Anonymous
    This is not George Zimmerman redux.
    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
    It makes no difference if the black dude was KNOWN to be just previously engaged in property crimes. (And there hardly seems to be clear evidence supporting that....)
    These FUCKING MORONS, by their OWN TESTIMONY, confronted him in a hostile manner while displaying a gun.
    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don't pause to reflect on your own moral state... AIM TO GET THE GUN!
    It does seem that this is not murder but rather homicide or manslaughter (and I do hope that justice prevails against the race hustlers), but this "father" is a jackass who has inflicted considerable harm on his son. But his son is a pussy for listening to a jackass father.
    They both deserve hard time, even if the black dude was a criminal.
    That's what the facts suggest to me. Michelle Malkin sometimes calls it, but not this time.
    A genuinely stupid article. Race hustlers can get it right for the wrong reasons. DUH.

    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)

    Watch the video. Arbery clearly bull rushes the younger McMichael while throwing punches. McMichael didn’t fire a shot until after he was attacked.

    Now perhaps this was all a misunderstanding and mistaken identity but the McMichael’s broke no Georgia laws. However, they did offend the sensibilities of black twitter, journos and social justice warriors around the nation which is a grievous offense.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
    The Georgia law, as I understand it, allows for a citizen's arrest if the citizen has witnessed a felony crime. But the McMichael's did not witness a felony crime, as far as I can see. How they heard about the trespass of Arbery on the house under construction--and in real time--is unclear to me. Did the same person who called 911 call McMichael as well?

    Obviously, there was some sort of informal neighborhood watch program in effect, because they couldn't have organized the video-recording chase car on the fly.

    The person who called 911 said that Arbery had been recorded on video at the house under construction at night on several occasions. Will be interesting to see if that video exists.

    And apparently, McMichael Sr remembered Arbery from when he was in the prosecutor's office and Arbery was arrested for bringing a loaded pistol to a high school basketball game. It would be nice if for once, one of this black victims didn't have the usual black prior record of criminality, and we could actually imagine them as fully respectable citizens.

    I would also be interested to know what line of work Arbery was in, if any. He was several years out of high school. Did he have any income of any kind?

  129. @Anonymous
    This is not George Zimmerman redux.
    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
    It makes no difference if the black dude was KNOWN to be just previously engaged in property crimes. (And there hardly seems to be clear evidence supporting that....)
    These FUCKING MORONS, by their OWN TESTIMONY, confronted him in a hostile manner while displaying a gun.
    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don't pause to reflect on your own moral state... AIM TO GET THE GUN!
    It does seem that this is not murder but rather homicide or manslaughter (and I do hope that justice prevails against the race hustlers), but this "father" is a jackass who has inflicted considerable harm on his son. But his son is a pussy for listening to a jackass father.
    They both deserve hard time, even if the black dude was a criminal.
    That's what the facts suggest to me. Michelle Malkin sometimes calls it, but not this time.
    A genuinely stupid article. Race hustlers can get it right for the wrong reasons. DUH.

    Exactly they should have followed him & stayed on the phone w police til they showed up and let the cops handle it….

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    Then if he charged a cop and got shot, you'd be whining about that.
  130. @Anonymous

    If that principle was not learned from the internment of Japanese Americans, then these are very dangerous times for our democracy.”
     
    We have a democracy? When did that happen? I thought that the American Government had taken over all important decisions and left the population out of the loop.
    Maybe you mean Trump's election instituted a democracy.
    Nice try, but note that the election has been largely nullified by various means, including the attempt to criminally and fraudulently charge Trump's appointees and, in fact, Trump himself. City governments are still bringing in foreigners in violation of US Federal law and claiming that they are the equivalent of citizens in determining city political influence, a rather obvious violation of both law and popular will. We now, in fact, have foreigners brought in illegally in areas where it is illegal for citizens to leave their house.
    I'd suggest that you think again.

    “I’d suggest that you think again.”

    Actually I don’t think the usa is a democracy and you are misrepresenting me. I suggest that you think again, trump wind-up toy.

  131. @fnn
    You're pretending you don't know how political machines are organized in the 21st Century.

    Similarly, Malkin repeats an already discredited charge that we use federal funds for political purposes. In fact, these funds are used to support the work of the Raza Development Fund, the largest Latino community bank in the country, to help fund health clinics, day-care facilities, homes for first-time buyers, and community-based charter schools.
     
    Raza Development Fund-An NGO doing the jobs that state and local govt should be doing.

    Malkin is doing something that other immigrants want to do or be doing . Is the pie shrinking for her turning her into a confused rabid dog ?

  132. I don’t live in the USA, haven’t for 20+ years, never will again, so I don’t believe myself competent to comment on the merits or lack thereof of the criminal case. I simply state that the small South American village in which I live has no blacks; in fact there are virtually none within 230 km (150 miles more or less) with a mountain range in the middle. That was no small consideration when I elected to live here, eventually accompanied by my son, his Latina wife and my three grandchildren.

    Am I prejudiced? I suppose so, although I have a dear friend who is from Bahía, the blackest part of Brazil. She’s a fine person, and readily admits that she understands my motives for avoiding living near blacks. It’s simply common sense on my part.

    Voluntary segregation is not “racist” in the sense of wishing no contact with anyone of a different race (black in particular). Nevertheless, a person of largely African descent is unlikely to want to live in the village in which I live because it will be made quite clear by virtually everyone that there are more congenial places to live than here, trust fund hippies notwithstanding; they know that they are tolerated, but barely, and with the new virus dispensation and resulting localism, that could change if they fail to keep a low profile.

    The motto of this village is that “there still are places like this” and the tacit consensus is that we will keep it that way.

    • Replies: @The Grim Joker
    You are right to live far away from these people. They are nothing but trouble to themselves and others. Dont come back to the US, it is not what it used to be and gets worse with each passing day. It is difficult to find a place in North America free of these individuals. Even if you move to a predominantly white area, one that is safe and trouble free, blacks who want to escape their slum, are also attracted to that place and move in. Then, their friends, family and acquaintances come to visit and soon the problems THEY escaped from recur in the new area. Soon the whites all move out and what was once a safe decent area becomes another dump over run with drug dealing, pimps and hookers, gunfights, garbage, rundown buildings, abandoned houses, stray dogs, rats, pulled down fences, groups of idle black men hanging around the corners, constant police sirens and black derelicts pushing shopping carts roaming the streets looking for bottles and cans.

    These problems are compounded by more and more blacks moving in from Africa. To these people accustomed to extreme poverty, hunger and living in a house made of sticks, mud and cow shit wattle the US is the land of milk and honey with free everything plus a monthly income. These characters hang around the local coffee shops all day. Enter any one of these and you will hear a dozen different languages coming from a dozen different facial types.

    Voluntary segregation is not racist my friend you are quite correct about that. You are lucky to be able to live in a place like your village and further to watch your kids and grand kids grow up in such an environment.
  133. This is one of those cases “if the races were reversered” MSM would be all over it. How it is presented to the public should be folllowed by a story about black on white murder from the past and present.
    These men will never recieve a fair trial.

  134. @Father O'Hara
    The charge should be littering!

    Well it was only temporary littering like when you drop a paper bag but retrieve it for the garbage. The trash was ultimately taken out, no pun intended !

    • Agree: bruce county
  135. @Anonymous
    Miranda, how is the author’s background relevant to the article? What is relevant is that none of these schvartzers would be granted public existence if it didn’t further the interests of those who own the MSM, which in this case is culpable incitement of black-on-white violence.

    “author’s background relevant to the article”

    That will take the past activities –sucking up to some anti Arab guys on stupid Fox to understand .

    “incitement of black-on-white violence.” She has been inciting for long time .

  136. @Tdog54
    Shaun King lives at 804 Lincoln Place in Brooklyn. It is a multi million dollar listing. Look up the pics on zillow and compare it to photos on his and his wifes IG. Exact house; but he tries to act like he doesnt get rich off of this shit. They also spent minimum $3000 on. VIP Universal package; also pics on IG and then went to Disneyworld for a week like two months ago. He has now quarantined his entire family for over a month in a Air bnb in the mountains while still being able to afford his multi million dollar house.

    I am shocked at these revelations. A black man who exploits his own, living the high and mighty life while his bros battle cockroaches in a rundown tenement. But then again this is typical behaviour of the black man. Look at Nigeria and Angola, two oil rich states where the black Dictators, their families and friends are worth billions yet their fellow blacks live in shanties on a dollar a day. These people treat their own worse than the white man ever did. Wherever they go whether separated by time or space the behaviour is the same.

  137. Why the rush to judgement? Let the case play out.

    • Replies: @mike99588
    Simple why prompt correct legal judgement and disposal matters:
    Bankruptcy for the survivors of an attack by a crazed man or desperate criminal, caused by an unnecessary trial.

    There's very little to "play out" if something extraordinary can't be demonstrated that there was much more to this case, like pre-existing bad blood and more compromising footage. Waste of taxpayer resources and race based, malicious prosecution is what it looks like.
  138. @schnellandine

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?
     
    That question presumes guilt. It's circular, and hardly empathic.

    An innocent man has every instinctive reason to be pissed at armed accusers, however dangerous it may be. I'd tell them to F themselves. The average innocent black man (theoretical) might go farther, with cause.

    I don't think Arbery wasn't burgling, but him being pissed at the beer-gut clods weighs not against him in the search for guilt. I've been disgusted by acquaintances who through slop gun handling endangered others at a firing range. Adding strangers, intent, and false criminal accusations would go beyond. But whether the accusation was true, they screwed the pooch.

    I suspect this will turn out much like the Zimmerman mess, with many whites unable to admit that both parties were asses. The shooters here were worse than Zimmerman, and I doubt they'll be acquitted.

    A Victim of black crime has every instinctive reason to be pissed at prowling negroes, however dangerous it may be. I’d tell them to F themselves. The average white crime victim (theoretical) might go farther, with cause.

    I edited your post.

  139. The Perversity of Needing to See Ahmaud Arbery Die on Video to Recognize That His Black Life Mattered

    https://theintercept.com/2020/05/09/ahmaud-arbery-video/

    “On Thursday, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation charged Ahmaud Arbery’s killers with murder and aggravated assault. There can be little doubt that, without the viral spread of a video capturing Arbery’s harrowing final moments, no such charges would have been brought.

    Arbery, a 25-year-old black man, was shot dead in February while jogging, hunted by a white father and son in a truck. Over two months had passed, and no charges had been filed by the local district attorney’s office. Within a day of the video surfacing, garnering millions of views and provoking mass outcry, the GBI began its own investigation. A day later, Gregory McMichael, a former investigator with the Brunswick district attorney’s office, and his son Travis were arrested and booked into jail.

    Once again, it took no less than the intolerable spectacle of a black man’s execution in public view, spread far and wide, for the state to consider — or be compelled to consider — even the possibility of consequences for those who so readily took his life. Why do we need to exhibit and share the brutal death of a black man for it to be asserted that he was murdered? Why is it still necessary that the world see a black life violently cut short for any institutional recognition that black lives should matter?

    When Gregory and Travis McMichael saw a black man jogging in their quiet neighborhood, it’s difficult to imagine that they saw a human whose life would be registered as a loss if taken. Instead, they saw a criminal threat, grabbed their guns, and gave chase. When the police and prosecutors originally in charge of the case said that there was “insufficient probable cause” for arresting the killers and that Travis McMichael was “allowed to use deadly force to protect himself” against the unarmed victim, they asserted that Arbery’s life was not a life worth preserving. It was not enough for his loved ones to demand justice. Millions of people had to bear witness to the extreme footage of a lynching, and to demand action, for the state to begin to register that Arbery’s life had value.”

    • Disagree: TheTrumanShow
  140. MARCH 18, 2020 Cops Killed Nearly 13 Times More People Than Mass Shooters

    According to The Washington Post, 1,004 individuals were “shot and killed by police in 2019,” or 12 more than the previous year.

    https://www.criminallegalnews.org/news/2020/mar/18/cops-killed-nearly-13-times-more-people-mass-shooters/

    May 5, 2020 Former Georgia Cop and Son Chase Down Black Jogger and Kill him

    But now that a video has surfaced showing the jogger was the one acting in self defense before he was killed, prosecutors are singing a different tune, saying they will present the case to a grand jury.

    • Replies: @Agent76
    "The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people." Martin Luther King, Jr.
    , @obwandiyag
    Looks like murder by two bloated southern bubba pieces of shit to me.

    And at the beginning, it does look like the guy is jogging at a medium pace, not running away like a bat out of hell.

    But anyway, this is you people's meat, isn't it. You just love another opportunity to race-bait. The government just gave multibillionaires 5 trillion dollars and this is what you whine on about. Yeah, the danger is from un-rich joggers. The multibillionaires are your friends.
  141. @schnellandine

    We dont legally have the right to detain anyone for questioning.
     
    I'll bet you take your car to Jiffy Screwed. Just a hunch.

    Ethically, when dealing with criminals, we have all sorts of rights you can't comprehend. "Legally", in the instant state, non-cops have the power to detain and restrain, under conditions which it isn't clear were met, recused prosecutor jive notwithstanding.

    This will shock you, but non-cops may even "lawfully" kill criminals in some situations. Cops are a comparatively new blight. What ever did the helpless folk do before their descent from above?

    “What We Know About the Killing of Ahmaud Arbery

    https://www.thecut.com/2020/05/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-georgia-explainer.html

    “According to the statement from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Tom Durden, the district attorney now assigned to the case, formally requested that the GBI look into Arbery’s death on May 5, the day the video appeared. Thirty-six hours later, Travis and Gregory McMichael were booked at the Glynn County Jail. At a news conference on May 8, GBI director Vic Reynolds said their investigation was straightforward. “The video was already out, we saw it, we reviewed the rest of the file, and we made an arrest,” he said. “Probable cause was clear to our agents pretty quickly.”

    Of the previous prosecutors, he said, “I can’t answer what another agency did or didn’t see. But I can tell you that, based on our involvement in this case and considering the fact we hit the ground running Wednesday morning and within 36 hours we had secured warrants for two individuals for felony murder, I think that speaks volumes for itself.”

    Let’s see, who is more credible here? The professionals quoted above or some white supremacist blowhard posting opinionated diarrhea on a website? Hey, it’s a real tough call, aint it. 😀

  142. Irish Savant says he was a burglar. Apparently even his mum admitted he ‘did-du’ it!

  143. @EliteCommInc.
    ""So, citizen’s arrest with probably cause is not legal in Georgia?"


    Laugh.

    I hate to break the news to you ----


    jogging, walking, even acting in a suspicious manner is not a crime. Though we have as a condition made that the case for no small number of blacks -- know that some number of the same are going to stand and say no. Even if on its face it makes no sense to take someone on with a weapon ----


    If you enact a citizen's arrest, there had better be a crime in place or a warrant for that individual . .


    They assumed because they had weapons, the person would comply ---- he was under no obligation to do so -- bb gun, shotgun, water pistol or M1 tank at the ready withstanding. The age of whiteness alone having any authority is long past overdue for retirement.

    About 10 years ago, I had to live (for work) in the burbs of a large Northeastern city (think Baltimore) for a month.

    One schitthole part of the city was full of poor blacks and hispanics. One warm spring morning a 9 yr old hispanic girl was walking to school alone. She cut theough an alley and was accosted by a negro who grabbed her. He tore her clothes and probably would have done much worse, but she got away and ran. She told her mother and the news spread throughout the block. The cops were also called.

    The local layabout men put down their morning joints and scoured the area. They suspected a local halfwit perv, a black hispanic guy. There was no evidence, just a vaguely similar description from the girl, who had never seen him before.

    Anyway, a large mob of the local men (all negro/hispanic themselves) found him. Several started beating the schitt out of him while a few cooler heads tried to keep him alive for the cops. Cops got there soon after and basically saved this guy’s life. As it was, he was severely beaten and was hospitalized for days.

    My point? The mayor, city council, local newspaper, and the public commended the local posse for hunting this guy down. They were “heroes”. No problem with 10-12 men beating him half to death-many citizens indicated they wish he had been killed. Now, no one saw the guy do anything. He had rights, due process, etc. The girl was unharmed except for a torn shirt.

    You got any problems with that? Or do you see any difference?

    • Replies: @Truth

    Or do you see any difference?
     
    Well now, one (allegedly) tried to rape a little girl, and the other (allegedly) was taking a jog.

    Nah, no difference.
  144. @Neoconned
    Exactly they should have followed him & stayed on the phone w police til they showed up and let the cops handle it....

    Then if he charged a cop and got shot, you’d be whining about that.

  145. @Blue Juice
    The truth is there...if you know where to look.
    1.) Ahmaud "Maude" Arbery was a 2-time convicted thief who couldn't hold down a job even though he was 25-years old. In fact there is no record of him ever having a full-time job but plenty of run-ins with the law, indulging in an expensive marijuana habit as well as threatening his father's side of the family.
    2.) However his family, extortion team and the MSM claim that the deceased was on his "daily jog". Wearing a dirty white t-shirt, cargo pants and Timberlands.
    3.) After weeks of denials his family has finally admitted that he was seen on security video rummaging through a house under rehab. But that he was not committing a burglary but was "interested in construction"! Apparently the rehab project was so interesting to an unemployed thief and "aspiring electrician" that he had to stop in the middle of his run to walk 40 feet off the street and onto and into the property of some stranger.
    4.) When confronted by a neighbor and told that police were on the way (and then identified by the McMichaels as the offender who fled the scene of burglary earlier in the week), Arbery continued on his daily jog...through someone's yard and onto a dead-end street! The McMichaels and an unknown second driver with a cellphone camera were in pursuit.
    5.) When stopped the first-time Arbery turned around and ran onto Holmes Drive where the second confrontation happened and Arbery charged, punched in the head and attempted to grab a semi-auto shotgun away from a legally armed man (Travis McMichael). Arbery was shot in the hand and again in the chest. At no time did anyone hear Arbery yell "help or stop harassing me".
    6. ) Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police? Was it murder or self-defense? If it was 1st degree murder why didn't the McMichaels simply shoot him from the truck or run him over? Those are the facts...you be the judge...

    This article will generate thousands of comments both for and against. Was it murder and in what degree or manslaughter or self defence or…or…..It will come out that this Achmaud was a chronic, habitual, career thief who became a nuisance as a result of his exploits and continually got away with his exploits. It gets to a point where people get fed up with these characters and take them out regardless of the consequences. One cannot imagine the rage at having constant breakins and items stolen. When I lived in the Third World, every door and window had to have an iron grill, bolted into cement and with hardened steel padlocks, everything had to be locked up. When washing was done and hung in the sun one had to watch the clothes line with unblinking eyes. Step away for just a second and your laundry would disappear and I am not exaggerating. Leave a bike, toys out and it was stolen. At times the thefts would take an amusing turn. One neighbour applying to go to the US had to submit a stool sample for tests. This was placed in a medical box and left on the front seat of his car. Running inside to get something he returned to find the stool sample GONE. Frustrations build, people get fed up, and perpetrators get capped. Its too bad he had to die !

  146. @fllaart bllooger
    i think you made my point quite well achmed. the article has no info about the actual crime mentioned in the headline.

    it's about the race baiters.

    and no, the article is NOT about bad journalism because there is no correction of the actual story.

    if you were defending the mcmichaels, would your defense pivot on the fact that his lawyers were racebaiters or the facts of the case?

    if you were to try king and his cohort for fraud, by all means have at them with the info in this article.

    Yes, this is most certainly about journalism, the TV kind for the most part. Did you see my 1st comment? That’s my point. These race-baiters, (hate-mongers, whatever the best term is for those scum bags) would get NOWHERE without a Lyin’ Press that puts all their BS in the spotlight. This video is a great example. We get one part of the story with Big-Media’s on-the-spot one-side interpretation for us all.

    Mrs. Malkin does everyone a service by pointing out who these race-hustlers, trotted out by the Lyin’ Press to push their narrative, really are. I’m not these 2 Georgian’s defense lawyer. This is not gonna be about law so much anyway, unfortunately. See Trayvon II – The Media Empire Strikes Back with plenty of credit given to the site Mr. Realist up top pointed to – Information Liberation.

  147. Do you people remember when a Black woman abducted a 12 year old white boy in Texas and burned him to death with a blowtorch?

    Speaking of Georgia. Do you people remember hearing about a White woman and her kids being purposely ran over by a car driven by a Black male in a McDonald’s parking lot? This happened way back around 2004, but hey, we still hear about Rodney King.

    IF you answered no, congrats, you are part of everyday normal American society, you have the pleasure of hardly ever reading, seeing or hearing about Black on White crime that is purposely BLACKED OUT by the JEWISH RUN AND CONTROLLED MEDIA.

    A question for Whites and even Hispanics, and Orientals. Would you feel safe jogging alone in an all Black ghetto even in the daytime? Well, you know what I see all the time living in a 98% White small town in JawJah, that’s right racist Georgia, I see lone Black females and males walking all by their lonesome and they aren’t molested verbally or harassed much less physically attacked. Now go and try walking in the hood as a lone White female or even a White male in the hood in Atlanta, Baltimore or Philly and tell me how long you last without being at least threatened. You would be lucky not to be sucker punched at the very least. And yet with all the THOUSANDS OF BLACK ON WHITE UNPROVOKED PHYSICAL ATTACKS, AND THESE ATTACKS OFTEN ARE BRUTAL, YOU NEVER SEE THE MEDIA COVERAGE OR ANGERED “ANTI-RACISTS” OUT THERE PROTESTING FOR JUSTICE. haha. It looks like these “anti-racists” SJW and others aren’t crusaders for justice but they are just hate-filled anti-White racist who only crawl out from under their rock and for 20-30 bucks an hour courtesy of Daddy Sorosbucks march along and spew “Hate Whitey,” and maybe loot some liquor stores that happen to be on the way. Also this gives these “anti-racists” a perfect opportunity or is it an excuse to pull innocent Whites out of their cars and beat them to a pulp.

    • Replies: @Truth

    Do you people remember when a Black woman abducted a 12 year old white boy in Texas and burned him to death with a blowtorch?
     
    No, not really.

    Speaking of Georgia. Do you people remember hearing about a White woman and her kids being purposely ran over by a car driven by a Black male in a McDonald’s parking lot?

     

    No.

    This happened way back around 2004,
     
    OK, that would explain it.

    but hey, we still hear about Rodney King.
     
    He's been dead for 8 years, Sport.


    I see lone Black females and males walking all by their lonesome and they aren’t molested verbally or harassed much less physically attacked.
     
    And that has what to do with this jogger being shot and killed?

    THOUSANDS OF BLACK ON WHITE UNPROVOKED PHYSICAL ATTACKS, AND THESE ATTACKS OFTEN ARE BRUTAL, YOU NEVER SEE THE MEDIA COVERAGE OR ANGERED “ANTI-RACISTS” OUT THERE PROTESTING FOR JUSTICE. haha
     
    Well then I think you owe Paul- K a heartfelt "thank you"... And a healthy donation.
    , @Neoconned
    I've never heard of the blowtorch murder or the mcds car murder.....got links? Would like to read them.
    , @europeasant
    "Now go and try walking in the hood as a lone White female or even a White male in the hood in Atlanta, Baltimore or Philly and tell me how long you last without being at least threatened"

    You got that right! Itz the same where I live. No one in their right mind would walk in the Negro parts of town especially after dark. I'm reminded of the story in my town a few years ago where the Chicago police arrested a mentally disturbed young White woman at Midway airport. They let here go from the local police station in the Ghetto. She wound up dead a few hours later. The locals ( you know who they are) threw out a window a couple of floors up.

    Some advice for out of towners. If you car breaks down on the west or south expressways do not under any circumstances get out looking for help. Especially after dark.
  148. Isn’t it interesting how free speech zones, like this or Gab, always bring the racist fascist scum crawling out of their holes? This isn’t an indictment of free speech, far from it: I’m strongly in favour of racist fascist scum identifying themselves. It will make things much easier than tracking them down one by one 🙂

  149. eah says:
    @Saggy

    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
     
    The audio of the event was recorded via a 911 call that was taking place when the shooting occured and you can hear the victim yelling 'Help' and moments later a shot. Zimmerman was armed and stalked and confronted Martin. Zimmerman's version is that he yelled help just before shooting Martin. He should have been convicted of 2nd degree murder.

    The audio of the event was recorded via a 911 call that was taking place when the shooting occured and you can hear the victim yelling ‘Help’ and moments later a shot.

    Actually it was Zimmerman yelling because Martin was on top of him, punching him in the face and pounding his head into the ground (corroborated by Zimmerman’s injuries) — when he first listened to the tape of the 9/11 call, Martin’s own father said the voice of the person yelling was not that of his son (he later lied and denied he said that) — several people who knew Zimmerman said it was his voice.

    Zimmerman stalked followed Martin because after a series of break-ins he found Martin suspicious, which was not unreasonable, everything considered; and it is not illegal to follow someone — Zimmerman never “confronted” Martin; it was Martin who more or less ambushed and physically attacked Zimmerman — Martin was 5’11” and a strong young hardass black man; Zimmerman was only 5’7″, and built like the Pillsbury Doughboy — yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help — that is ridiculous.

    But people like you are usually impervious to such facts/arguments.

    • Replies: @Truth

    yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help
     
    Well...

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/6/28/4475994/george-zimmerman-training-mma-weeks-before-trayvon-martin-shooting
    , @Saggy

    yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help
     
    He was yelling help because a gun was pointed at him, imbecile.
  150. @John Achterhof
    The video is disturbing to watch. No wonder it aroused such a powerful reaction after it went into circulation. The two guys ambushed the jogger, presented a violent treat and incited the murderous outcome. This is no "citizen's arrest" issue. Civil society doesn't work this way - this is the way of disillusion and breakdown. It doesn't matter what kind of life the young man that was jogging down the road had led. All Americans have the same rights. It doesn't matter who has taken up the cause of justice. What is worse to consider than what is seen on the video is that they would have gotten away uncharged within that community if not for the broader outrage.

    How can Michelle write this piece after watching that video? I can't help but wonder if it's deliberate racist baiting.

    Hopefully you will never have an encounter with a black man, you comment will take an about turn.

  151. @Miranda
    Look at the ANCHOR BABY MALKIN stirring up crap, as usual. If your parents weren't here on work visas, you'd be another Philippina in a slum.

    She’s done a lot more to defend White Anglo America then you ever will, or most other Whites for that matter. You’ve been cucked out of the nation your ancestors built from the ground up and you’re complaining about a non-White that actually helps your cause?

  152. @John Achterhof
    The video is disturbing to watch. No wonder it aroused such a powerful reaction after it went into circulation. The two guys ambushed the jogger, presented a violent treat and incited the murderous outcome. This is no "citizen's arrest" issue. Civil society doesn't work this way - this is the way of disillusion and breakdown. It doesn't matter what kind of life the young man that was jogging down the road had led. All Americans have the same rights. It doesn't matter who has taken up the cause of justice. What is worse to consider than what is seen on the video is that they would have gotten away uncharged within that community if not for the broader outrage.

    How can Michelle write this piece after watching that video? I can't help but wonder if it's deliberate racist baiting.

    You’re suggesting common sense on a site that routinely posts white racist material, the comment section of which is crawling with white racists, and which goes looking for scum like Malkin – who is persona non grata even among far right wing vermin like Ben Shapiro who wants Palestinians genocided – to post. You are, unfortunately, in the wrong place for that.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    You are a hate filled anti-white bigot POS.
    , @BrokenheartAmerican
    You are a racist fiendly. You are in the right place because I don't like Shapiros killing Palestinians either on my dime. You are so uptight about this event as if it were evil.

    Evil is when you're in California, over 6' and 250 lbs and stab your pregnant girlfriend in a church parking lot, then flee the church and crash with your 1 year old daughter in the car, a citizen comes to pull her from the wreckage and then the sloped head stabs the citizen and slope throws baby off a cliff, into a ravine and the 1 year old is dead. Your low IQ wants to act like a slopehead charging another man with a shotgun and shooting himself in the chest with it and then falling face first is evil. Not
  153. @Anonymous
    Miranda, how is the author’s background relevant to the article? What is relevant is that none of these schvartzers would be granted public existence if it didn’t further the interests of those who own the MSM, which in this case is culpable incitement of black-on-white violence.

    The author’s background is relevant because a racist ratbag like Malkin, with a history of being a racist ratbag, cannot be relied upon to tell even 0.000000000001% of the truth about any topic like this one. And, yes, as a fellow brown person, I call her a racist ratbag because brown people are often the best allies of white racists against the blacks.

    • Troll: Tlotsi
    • Replies: @schnellandine

    because a racist ratbag like Malkin, with a history of being a racist ratbag, cannot be relied upon to tell even 0.000000000001% of the truth about any topic like this one
     
    Just curious, bear with me:
    Who approved your comment, sending it through moderation? Wondering if you know.
  154. ” King’s post of the purloined video ”

    The video was published by the accuseds’ lawyer. It was not purloined in anyway.

    • Replies: @Anon
    According to a police report, the man, Gregory McMichael, 64, called out to his son, Travis McMichael, 34. They grabbed their weapons, a .357 magnum revolver and a shotgun, jumped into a truck and began following Mr. Arbery.
    “Stop, stop,” they shouted at Mr. Arbery, “we want to talk to you.”
    Moments later, after a struggle over the shotgun, Mr. Arbery was killed, shot at least twice.


    According to documents obtained by The New York Times, a prosecutor who had the case for a few weeks told the police that the pursuers had acted within the scope of Georgia’s citizen’s arrest statute, and that Travis McMichael, who held the shotgun, had acted out of self-defense.”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/us/ahmed-arbery-shooting-georgia.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article


    The man, Roddie Bryan, lives in the neighborhood. He had shared the video with the police before sharing it with Mr. Tucker and was cooperating with the authorities, his lawyer, Kevin Gough, said in an interview Friday evening.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/us/ahmaud-arbery-video-lawyer.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


    Prosecutor should be charged as well and same goes for the police .

  155. @Miranda
    Look at the ANCHOR BABY MALKIN stirring up crap, as usual. If your parents weren't here on work visas, you'd be another Philippina in a slum.

    That was like turning over a rock.

  156. @Realist
    Here is an article that should satisfy your burning desire for the truth.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    What I find curious is how the rich black elite, who once they make it move out far away from the chimp areas, rarely if ever return, dont give a shit about the people they left behind, but suddenly find Jesus and are all so concerned about the poor black man (who wanted to be a Doctor or Dentist) who is a criminal and got shot. Whites, like Biden jump on the same gravy train. Once the drama has been milked these cretins get back to their to their lives of luxury and the black corpse is shit to them and soon forgotten. The poor black man falls for this every time. Does the black man really believe LeBron, Walters, Biden, and other similar characters give a flying fuck about them other than what they can be used for and for how long?. These people are dumb, gullible and do not seem to understand how the world works.

    • Agree: Realist
  157. @schnellandine

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?
     
    That question presumes guilt. It's circular, and hardly empathic.

    An innocent man has every instinctive reason to be pissed at armed accusers, however dangerous it may be. I'd tell them to F themselves. The average innocent black man (theoretical) might go farther, with cause.

    I don't think Arbery wasn't burgling, but him being pissed at the beer-gut clods weighs not against him in the search for guilt. I've been disgusted by acquaintances who through slop gun handling endangered others at a firing range. Adding strangers, intent, and false criminal accusations would go beyond. But whether the accusation was true, they screwed the pooch.

    I suspect this will turn out much like the Zimmerman mess, with many whites unable to admit that both parties were asses. The shooters here were worse than Zimmerman, and I doubt they'll be acquitted.

    The clods didn’t handle this well. And the younger one with the shotgun shouldn’t have crossed the center line when the Black man tried to run around the truck. That said, if the clods had kept their guns concealed and ‘kindly’ told the Black criminal that he wasn’t welcome in their neighborhood that would have been admirable behavior. Times were better when men defended their neighborhoods without taking the law into their own hands. But unless the Black man is running with a stolen TV, the whole point is to scare him from coming back, not to block his exit or trying to make a citizens arrest with no proof of a crime. Somewhere between (a) letting a criminal stroll through your neighborhood because you’re weak and (b) blocking a suspicious person’s exit by brandishing a shotgun (eg crossing the center line), is what most of us would call an appropriate response.

    The clods didn’t handle this well, that’s for sure. On the other hand, when they killed the Black man the world didn’t lose anything of value. He was no doubt a thug. But you can’t go around making citizens arrests based on your suspicion, even if the suspicion is no doubt correct.

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    Times were better when men defended their neighborhoods without taking the law into their own hands.
     
    Into whose hands should the law be placed, and from where? Much as with "fire in a crowded theater", "law into their own hands" is merely evasive argument-extinguisher.

    Interesting that when the state, as usual, fails miserably in the administration of justice, there's no ubiquitous extinguishing memorized phrase at hand.

    When interested "private" parties fail justice after attempting its administration, they are usually liable for punishment. Not so the state.

    Thus I conclude opposite of you regarding the desirability of vigilantism.

    Philosophically, whence comes the magic power of the state to serve justice? If from the people, then the people have it. Bastiat was right when he wrote that the law (not the state) is simply the collective manifestation of an individual right of self defense. The individual abandons not that right when enlisting (so it's supposed) others to act on his behalf.

  158. @Chris Mallory

    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?
     
    Would you:
    1) Turn to run and hope you are faster than that load of buckshot that will hit you in the back.
    2) Attempt to fight for your life.

    I would stand still, keep my hands in plain view, make no sudden moves and wait for the police to arrive.

    • Replies: @Phil the Fluter
    or wait to be shot.
  159. Ace says:
    @Realist
    Here is an article that should satisfy your burning desire for the truth.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    That’s a choice article you linked to. The money quote from it is:

    As I said in the past, the real lesson of Covington was that Conservatism, Inc. will always side with the liberal establishment over the base they claim to represent when it matters most. [Link removed.]

    It’s preceded by Ben Shapiro’s tweet that criminal charges “are merited.” Ben’s got it all figured out.

    • Agree: Realist
    • LOL: schnellandine
  160. How can anyone in his or her right mind support those two sick and dumb red necks who killed that man for nothing?
    So what even if he was a burglar?If these dumb red necks had any brains they would have waited for the proper authority to arrest him rather than blowing his mid section with a 12 Gauge shotgun.
    BTW, Ms Malkin would not be accepted by the likes of those red necks who committed this terrible crime. After all she is a darky and all darkys ,brown and Black, are considered N$$$rs by these mother fucking dumb red necks.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    Uh, "red necks" is actually one word, "redneck." There I fixed that for ya.
    , @BenKenobi
    Your seethe is delicious. Lol.
    , @Genrick Yagoda
    Arbrey attacked Travis and grabbed his gun by the barrel. That is right on video, and his wounds were consistent with the video when the autopsy was performed.

    Arbrey killed hisself.
    , @Anonymous
    Relying on "proper authority" is why White America is in the situation that it is. If we had 1 million Dylan Roofs negros wouldn't exist in this country.
    , @Anti_barabas_ite
    Robbery/tresspass is out as a reason to shoot a "jogger"

    Would cutting a white womans head off in central park be ok not to wait for officialdom to react?

    Cracker should have let this "jogger" come back and kill them with the guns he stole earlier in the year...

    You "joggers" are pathetic.
  161. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    Message accompanying the share I've sent around:

    Black jogger Ahmaud Arberry being murdered in broad daylight in Amerikastan by two armed white men, father and son, who overtook him in a pickup before stopping to kill him. This happened in February but only now have the pair finally been arrested. Amerikastani racist right winger Michelle Malkin, writing on the far right wing site Unz, which routinely posts white racist material, virtually calls the killing justified on the grounds that the people who put the video online - finally causing the arrest of the murderers - are liberals.

    writing on the far right wing site Unz

    Stupid characterization of Georgia killing. And stupid pigeonholing of Unz Review, since you have many columnists on UR who’ve spent their entire writing career in far-left media until they refused to toe the line on support for neolib (neocon) agenda of the Anglo-Zionist empire. A few columnists at UR were purged from far-left CounterPunch after CP got on board with the neolib agenda. Malkin was only picked up by Unz after she was excommunicated from mainstream conservative media and “Conservative Inc.” after associating with some on the alt-right.

    So I would say UR is more a fringe site, both left and right (and every other direction). I mean, where else would you find a website where its owner and main columnist is praising and promoting the research group of the Nation of Islam and a link to order their book? Unz thinks it’s the most thoroughly researched with the best analysis of any book he’s read on the subject.

    Ron Unz:

    …once I began reading the 500 pages of The Leo Frank Case: The Lynching of a Guilty Man I was tremendously impressed by the quality of the historical analysis. I think I have only very rarely encountered a research monograph on a controversial historical event that provided such an enormous wealth of carefully-argued analysis backed by such copious evidence. The authors seemed to display complete mastery of the major secondary literature of the last one hundred years while drawing very heavily upon the various primary sources, including court records, personal correspondence, and contemporaneous publications, with the overwhelming majority of the 1200 footnotes referencing newspaper and magazine articles of that era.”

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

  162. Why in these cases does the white man-well, Zimmerman was basically a Latino-end up pulling a gun because he is getting thrashed?

    Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward.

    Every shooting of a black by a white seems to involve a white resorting to a gun.

    Why are blacks so often able to overpower whites?

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @bjondo
    Why do Yid resort to assault weapons, tanks,
    bombs, chemicals, biologicals, raw sewage, lies,
    to overpower Palestinian kiddies and pregnant women?

    5 dancing shlomos

    , @Anonymous

    Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward.
     
    Some far more productive questions for you to answer:

    Why do black men apply their physical advantage against whites and women to get their way?

    Why do black men run from marrying the women they impregnate?

    Why do black men shuck and jive around the need to raise their own children, and insist those children be raised by the abandoned, angry mother, and eventually, the state?

    Why do blacks, on a percentage basis, kill far more white people, as well as commit violent crimes, than the other way around? Damn right a white lady is going to clutch her purse when a black man comes around. Statistically, she’d be an absolute idiot not to, if she wants to keep that purse.

    So, answer these far more important questions, won’t you?

    , @Craig Nelsen

    has to use a gun like a coward.
     
    First of all, if you are at a disadvantage (older, smaller, female, etc.), there is nothing cowardly about using a gun. Quite the opposite.

    Second, if, in a life and death situation that you didn't initiate, there is the slightest possibility you may be at a disadvantage, there is nothing cowardly about using a gun. Quite the opposite.

    Third, if you are in a life and death situation that you didn't initiate, there is a great probability your attacker believes you are at a disadvantage and a significant possibility he is right, in which case there is nothing cowardly about using a gun. Quite the opposite.

    Fourth, if a black man initiates the confrontation and the white man is unarmed and get his ass kicked, you won't hear about it.

    Fifth, if a black man initiates the confrontation and the white man is unarmed and kicks the attacker's ass, you won't hear about it.

    Sixth, if a black man initiates the confrontation and the white man is armed but fails to use his weapon and gets his ass kicked, you won't hear about it.

    Seventh, if a black man initiates the confrontation and the white man is armed and uses his weapon, you'll hear about it in the New York Times, but not the part about initiating the conflict.

    Eighth, if a white man initiates the confrontation, and gets his ass kicked, you'll hear about it on World Star Hip Hop.

    Ninth, if a white man initiates the confrontation, and beats the black man's ass, you'll hear about in the New York Times.
    , @Adûnâi
    > "Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward."

    Because White smile. Negroes do not smile. A commenter on Chechar's blog (maybe Joseph Walsh?) once said that the photographs from the early 20th century showed White proletarians who do not smile. And that the last vestige of that spirit was only preserved later in prisons (where Negroes prevailed around the 1960s).
  163. @Longfisher
    Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn't worth my time to read this article.

    If I had to guess, I’d say Ms. Malkin is used to Breitbart and Fox News types who eat the shit up, but are as incapable of critical thinking as CNN viewers or NYT readers.

    • Replies: @MrTea
    The sources you cite just spent years whipping up an hysteria about "collusion" with Russia that did not exist. See the newly-released transcripts with the testimony of Clapper et al. The "types" you refer to knew this all along by way of the factual research done by writers like John Solomon and the truth-seekers at Judicial Watch.

    CNN is a joke and the NY Times had been stinking with corruption since the days when their boy Duranty fronted for Stalin while he murdered millions in Ukraine. The media corruption is pervasive and a matter of public record

    http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

    though this has never been acknowledge by any corporate news instrument. Or any of the hackademic whores who fawn and front for them. I suppose you believe in the Warren Commission too? (Like Saint Chomsky!)

    Watergate.com has some interesting historical revision to offer. Also the recently-published and as expected, ignored "Postgate" https://www.postgatebook.com/
    authored by the lawyer who repped for "Deep Throat" himself.
  164. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Crump…the Al Sharpton-like chump who shilled for Trayvon Martin:
    https://tinyurl.com/y8vuqubo

  165. jill says:

    An armed black New Jersey investigator killed a white man who was unarmed and moving toward him in a road rage incident. The investigator was carrying his firearm illegally in Maryland. The investigator should have stayed in his locked vehicle and called 911.

    “Walker was off duty at the time of the incident, driving home from a family gathering in Odenton, when his car drifted into Harvey’s lane after making a turn along Route 3 near Interstate 97. Police reports and testimony indicated Harvey swerved toward Walker’s car and called him a racial slur. Harvey was white, Walker is black.

    Both men pulled over, and court records say once the vehicles were on the side of the road, the two men confronted one another. Walker, a detective with the Hudson County prosecutor’s office in New Jersey, said he identified himself as an officer and showed his badge; other witnesses said they never saw a badge.

    As Harvey approached, Walker shot him three times, killing him.”

    Found not guilty at trial.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/anne-arundel/annapolis/bs-md-ar-road-rage-verdict-20140730-story.html

  166. For the 1,000th time….never, ever, talk to the police:

    • Agree: Agent76
  167. @Achmed E. Newman
    What helps with all this, Mrs. Malkin, is NOT BEING HOOKED UP TO TV. It's been 20 years and counting. Well, I mean is, it would help if it were not just me and a few others. Paying for a TV signal in any manner is just encouraging these people.

    John Prine opines:

    "Blow up your TV..."


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BofvfVPFbiM

    Achmed,

    When the great James Stockdale was preparing to bail out over North Vietnam, he happily told himself, “I’m leaving the world of technology and entering the world of Epictetus!”

    Take care

    JBGP

  168. @Realist
    Here is an article that should satisfy your burning desire for the truth.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    Great research Realist, very thorough. I plan to look at the videos tonight with a bowl of ice cream, chocolate flavour. Ahmaud was clearly a ne’er do well and his family are certainly no God fearing, church going, righteous Christians. The people in his area probably got quite fed up with him and solved the problem.

    As you pointed out if Father and Son are exonerated it will be chimp time as they torch their own area and other black businesses resulting in them having to travel one hour for a bag of milk.

    Once again this is a clear caution to whites to stay away from blacks, black area and black events. Also stay away from whites who think it is cool to associate with blacks. It may well cost you your life and that of your loved ones. These people are pure poison and nothing but trouble. even their own kind move out of the Hood and into a white area first chance they get.

    • Replies: @Realist

    Also stay away from whites who think it is cool to associate with blacks.
     
    ...or act black...or worship blacks...or marry blacks.
  169. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    Just to make it clear. Some racist goon stopping me on the street has nio expectation that I have any obligatioin to be compliant with whatever demands he makes., Indeed, merely making sucvh demands when he has not authrotu to expet comliance is in itself a villation of any citizen’s civil rights. SO IT’S THE PERSON MAKING THAT DEMAND AND SEEKING TO ENFORCE IT WHO IS THE AGRRESSOR, AND HIS VICTIM HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST SUCH EFFRONTERY.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    The black 'jogger' ran towards the older man and grabbed the man's shot gun ( which was pointed down at the ground ) making the 'jogger' aggressor. The video clearly shows that.
    , @BenKenobi
    Shut up, jogger.
    , @Cowtown Rebel
    Were you intoxicated when you typed that pathetic response? Nothing was even remotely clear about it. Try consulting a dictionary and learn how to spell before you inadvertently reveal how illiterate you are. Or, at least Sober Up before commenting.
    , @Twodees Partain
    Who know what evil lurk all up in the mind of mans....Da Shadow Do.
    , @Joemama
    If a racist goon with a shotgun stops me on the street, I will stand on my head and wave my feet at the moon if he asks me to because I don't have a death wish especially with an armed hillbilly calling in my marker. I will let the shadow make a point for me.
  170. @Patriot1776
    You are clearly a hate-monger, Michelle. Stop smearing this innocent man.

    Yes I agree he is an innocent man. I am sure the facts will come out showing he wanted to be a dentist or even a Neuro Surgeon. I bet evidence exists that he applied to Harvard Medical School and was accepted notwithstanding an expanding criminal file. How do you expect the man to pay his tuition with a regular job ? Its too bad he is now in that happy Ghetto in the sky ! The life of an upstanding young man with a promising future in science has been cut short.

  171. @NegroPantera
    How can anyone in his or her right mind support those two sick and dumb red necks who killed that man for nothing?
    So what even if he was a burglar?If these dumb red necks had any brains they would have waited for the proper authority to arrest him rather than blowing his mid section with a 12 Gauge shotgun.
    BTW, Ms Malkin would not be accepted by the likes of those red necks who committed this terrible crime. After all she is a darky and all darkys ,brown and Black, are considered N$$$rs by these mother fucking dumb red necks.

    Uh, “red necks” is actually one word, “redneck.” There I fixed that for ya.

  172. OK, these guys may have pushed hoaxes in the past, but it doesn’t necessarily mean they are doing so here…

  173. @Herbert Norkus
    Once the “jogger” (wearing saggy shorts and work boots) was terminated, did the burglaries in the neighborhood stop?
    No further questions, your Honor

    Yes, the curve flattened and the other monkeys self quarantined. The Police now have nothing to do !

  174. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    The author's background is relevant because a racist ratbag like Malkin, with a history of being a racist ratbag, cannot be relied upon to tell even 0.000000000001% of the truth about any topic like this one. And, yes, as a fellow brown person, I call her a racist ratbag because brown people are often the best allies of white racists against the blacks.

    because a racist ratbag like Malkin, with a history of being a racist ratbag, cannot be relied upon to tell even 0.000000000001% of the truth about any topic like this one

    Just curious, bear with me:
    Who approved your comment, sending it through moderation? Wondering if you know.

  175. @Hans
    The Trayvon Martin Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America - https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

    Thank you for that. That segment on Rachel Jeantal is the woldest expose I’ve seen. It went on fat too long, but the info on that hoax is incredible.

    And they did not charge one single one of these incredible liars, including Crump.

  176. @NegroPantera
    How can anyone in his or her right mind support those two sick and dumb red necks who killed that man for nothing?
    So what even if he was a burglar?If these dumb red necks had any brains they would have waited for the proper authority to arrest him rather than blowing his mid section with a 12 Gauge shotgun.
    BTW, Ms Malkin would not be accepted by the likes of those red necks who committed this terrible crime. After all she is a darky and all darkys ,brown and Black, are considered N$$$rs by these mother fucking dumb red necks.

    Your seethe is delicious. Lol.

  177. @NegroPantera
    How can anyone in his or her right mind support those two sick and dumb red necks who killed that man for nothing?
    So what even if he was a burglar?If these dumb red necks had any brains they would have waited for the proper authority to arrest him rather than blowing his mid section with a 12 Gauge shotgun.
    BTW, Ms Malkin would not be accepted by the likes of those red necks who committed this terrible crime. After all she is a darky and all darkys ,brown and Black, are considered N$$$rs by these mother fucking dumb red necks.

    Arbrey attacked Travis and grabbed his gun by the barrel. That is right on video, and his wounds were consistent with the video when the autopsy was performed.

    Arbrey killed hisself.

  178. @Jeff Stryker
    Why in these cases does the white man-well, Zimmerman was basically a Latino-end up pulling a gun because he is getting thrashed?

    Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward.

    Every shooting of a black by a white seems to involve a white resorting to a gun.

    Why are blacks so often able to overpower whites?

    Why do Yid resort to assault weapons, tanks,
    bombs, chemicals, biologicals, raw sewage, lies,
    to overpower Palestinian kiddies and pregnant women?

    5 dancing shlomos

  179. Umm, if this is deceptively edited…

    where, pray tell, are the edits?

    I didn’t see any.

  180. @anonymous jew
    The clods didn't handle this well. And the younger one with the shotgun shouldn't have crossed the center line when the Black man tried to run around the truck. That said, if the clods had kept their guns concealed and 'kindly' told the Black criminal that he wasn't welcome in their neighborhood that would have been admirable behavior. Times were better when men defended their neighborhoods without taking the law into their own hands. But unless the Black man is running with a stolen TV, the whole point is to scare him from coming back, not to block his exit or trying to make a citizens arrest with no proof of a crime. Somewhere between (a) letting a criminal stroll through your neighborhood because you're weak and (b) blocking a suspicious person's exit by brandishing a shotgun (eg crossing the center line), is what most of us would call an appropriate response.

    The clods didn't handle this well, that's for sure. On the other hand, when they killed the Black man the world didn't lose anything of value. He was no doubt a thug. But you can't go around making citizens arrests based on your suspicion, even if the suspicion is no doubt correct.

    Times were better when men defended their neighborhoods without taking the law into their own hands.

    Into whose hands should the law be placed, and from where? Much as with “fire in a crowded theater”, “law into their own hands” is merely evasive argument-extinguisher.

    Interesting that when the state, as usual, fails miserably in the administration of justice, there’s no ubiquitous extinguishing memorized phrase at hand.

    When interested “private” parties fail justice after attempting its administration, they are usually liable for punishment. Not so the state.

    Thus I conclude opposite of you regarding the desirability of vigilantism.

    Philosophically, whence comes the magic power of the state to serve justice? If from the people, then the people have it. Bastiat was right when he wrote that the law (not the state) is simply the collective manifestation of an individual right of self defense. The individual abandons not that right when enlisting (so it’s supposed) others to act on his behalf.

  181. Sean says:
    @Dan Hayes
    The "evidence" against Holtzclaw that you reported has already been disputed (actually demolished) by Michelle Malkin!

    All-white jury convicted him. He only called one witness in his defence: his girlfriend. There was a trend in the crimes of him going for older and older black women and more respectable ones. What brought him down was when he targeted a 57 year old woman with no kind of record or charges against; she immediately made a complaint, and after he was Mirandaised he declined to have a lawyer present and made the astounding error of talking to the police. Nothing one says in those circumstances (being questioned as a suspect) could help, and they got something as they always do; checked with his girlfriend and caught him out in a lie about having had sex with her when he returned that night. Almost all the women who then came forward were low lifes but there was a pattern of them being 40 or more that fits with Holtzclaw having a ever greater interest in older black women.

    Holtzclaw patrol car locations had their GPS data for the relevant night shifts on record and they tallied with where the route by which the 17 year old said Holtzclaw took to the assault location, and her skin DNA was on his uniform pants. People get life in prison every day on less proof. His sentence is excessive, but he was happy to be part of that system and he knew what to expect.

  182. Lowe says:
    @Fluesterwitz
    If two armed people decide to impede the actions of a third, unarmed, person, how exactly can they fear for their lives? And if they do, why don't they just stop their actions that lead to them being afraid in the first place?

    You are right that the armed men showed bad judgment confronting the jogging black guy like they did.

    H/e self defense is a workable defense, since the video shows him turning left abruptly, back toward them, for whatever reason. He was not trying to run away, which supports the claim that he initiated it.

  183. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    You're suggesting common sense on a site that routinely posts white racist material, the comment section of which is crawling with white racists, and which goes looking for scum like Malkin - who is persona non grata even among far right wing vermin like Ben Shapiro who wants Palestinians genocided - to post. You are, unfortunately, in the wrong place for that.

    You are a hate filled anti-white bigot POS.

  184. @Chris Mallory

    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?
     
    Would you:
    1) Turn to run and hope you are faster than that load of buckshot that will hit you in the back.
    2) Attempt to fight for your life.

    Run away, in whichever direction, but definitely away from the guy with the gun.

    Your probability of survival is much higher doing that. You don’t even know he’s going to shoot at you. If you attack him he definitely will.

  185. This is why you shouldn’t have little old asian women be the face of your pro white movement. Instead of putting up any actual defense of these men being railroaded she just retreats back into a petty personal feud with Talcum X. Pathetic.

  186. @MrBoompi
    Even if the black guy had committed burglary, two armed rednecks rolling up to kidnap him wasn't a smart move. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, the shooter is guilty of manslaughter and attempted kidnapping, the dad for armed criminal action and attempted kidnapping. This is the difference between having a badge and not having one. A "citizen's arrest" excuse ain't gonna fly.

    +1, but I’m still glad someone is keeping track of Shaun King. He was masquerading as a journalist on The Intercept until about a year ago. I wonder what happened.

  187. American whites will not give up our guns and we will not cede our neighborhoods to black “jogger” thieves. And if they try to grab weapons from our hands we will shoot them. Without compunction. The same way you shoot a wild animal, because that is what such behavior resembles. A charging buck is going to be shot every time, whether you try to throw the whites in prison for it or not.

    Of course this isn’t about protecting black lives from violence. This is about enabling negroes to terrorize whites the way they do in South Africa. It’s not going to happen here.

    Vigilantism is a response to lawlessness. Lawless authorities should expect it.

    • Replies: @Truth

    American whites will not give up our guns
     
    Canadian whites will.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-politics-guns-idUSKBN22C3NS

    And if they try to grab weapons from our hands we will shoot them. Without compunction.
     
    Well then my advice, Old Sport would be to mitigate some of your shootin' range time, with boxing ring or octagon time, because it is my understanding that they don't let you have guns in prison.

    Vigilantism is a response to lawlessness

     

    Right, and prison is a response to vigilantism, and missing teef are a response to prison.
  188. Every time I read his name in my head I am saying Armed Robbery. Anyone else??

  189. @padre
    Of course he should stop, because if you're innocent, you have nothing to fear from the police, especially if you're black,right!But than again, blacks and Latinos have it in their blood, they are all rapists and murderers, according to Trump!

    Have a problem with English comprehension? Provide the link to the news report where Trump said blacks and Latinos are all rapists and murderers.

  190. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    I would stand still, keep my hands in plain view, make no sudden moves and wait for the police to arrive.

    or wait to be shot.

  191. It’s funny, I remember when the Jewish “police force” in Brooklyn cornered a black guy and gouged out one of his eyes. CNN was uninterested in that story. And the guy originally convicted of the crime is now free because some clever lawyer Barry Schecked the prosecution over DNA analysis. It helps to be Jewish in life, that’s for sure. It hurts to be a redneck.

  192. @Longfisher
    Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn't worth my time to read this article.

    Just out for a jog, 12 miles from home, wearing denim shorts and unlaced boots. That’s a hell of a way to run a marathon.

    • LOL: acementhead
    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
    Agree, but can you tell me where you read he was 12 miles from home? I saw this on one news report, but it seems to have been memory holed.

    It would be helpful if everyone knew this information.
  193. Will be waiting on the GBI investigation, but this whole thing smells fishy. 1) Gregory McMichael sees someone running and automatically thinks “burglar” based on video from another residence 2) G. McMichael calls 911 about a “burglar” 3) G. McMichael goes into house and says to his son Travis (parapharase) “lets go” they grab their weapons, get into their truck and go after someone that is running. 4) not only do the go after the guy, they try to cut him off, and detain him. Are you kidding me?

    Now we know that Gregory McMichael was an ex-cop, worked for the prosecutor’s office as an investigator until he retired, and had investigated Arbery previously. The last part he never informed police of. The local police say there were no burglary reports from Jan-Feb in that area. Then come to find out that the local LEO’s wanted to arrest the McMichael’s, but the prosecutor Gregory Michael used to work for put the kibosh on that.

    My question: After calling 911 why didn’t they just follow Arbery from a distance while staying on the phone with dispatch until police arrived? That would have been the smart thing to do and then the McMichael’s would have avoided all of this.

    I will repeat: This stinks to high heaven! Doesn’t matter who the lawyers for Arbery’s parents are. Yes they are race baiters, but a broken clock still tells the correct time two times a day.

  194. @Exador
    Having watched the video, it's clear that Arbery is running AT a stopped pickup truck. Also, he initially runs down the middle of street, then moves to the right side as he gets to the pickup truck, then QUICKLY runs around the front of the truck and attacks McMichaels. The 911 call describes seeing Arbery burgling the home and the caller says that's it's an ongoing thing with this guy. His clothes are given as a description.
    Don't expect justice. Remember Charlottsville.

    Amen.

    A jogger wearing unlaced boots should’ve been a hint.

  195. @Blue Juice
    The truth is there...if you know where to look.
    1.) Ahmaud "Maude" Arbery was a 2-time convicted thief who couldn't hold down a job even though he was 25-years old. In fact there is no record of him ever having a full-time job but plenty of run-ins with the law, indulging in an expensive marijuana habit as well as threatening his father's side of the family.
    2.) However his family, extortion team and the MSM claim that the deceased was on his "daily jog". Wearing a dirty white t-shirt, cargo pants and Timberlands.
    3.) After weeks of denials his family has finally admitted that he was seen on security video rummaging through a house under rehab. But that he was not committing a burglary but was "interested in construction"! Apparently the rehab project was so interesting to an unemployed thief and "aspiring electrician" that he had to stop in the middle of his run to walk 40 feet off the street and onto and into the property of some stranger.
    4.) When confronted by a neighbor and told that police were on the way (and then identified by the McMichaels as the offender who fled the scene of burglary earlier in the week), Arbery continued on his daily jog...through someone's yard and onto a dead-end street! The McMichaels and an unknown second driver with a cellphone camera were in pursuit.
    5.) When stopped the first-time Arbery turned around and ran onto Holmes Drive where the second confrontation happened and Arbery charged, punched in the head and attempted to grab a semi-auto shotgun away from a legally armed man (Travis McMichael). Arbery was shot in the hand and again in the chest. At no time did anyone hear Arbery yell "help or stop harassing me".
    6. ) Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police? Was it murder or self-defense? If it was 1st degree murder why didn't the McMichaels simply shoot him from the truck or run him over? Those are the facts...you be the judge...

    Thank you for sharing all of those details.

  196. @schnellandine

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?
     
    That question presumes guilt. It's circular, and hardly empathic.

    An innocent man has every instinctive reason to be pissed at armed accusers, however dangerous it may be. I'd tell them to F themselves. The average innocent black man (theoretical) might go farther, with cause.

    I don't think Arbery wasn't burgling, but him being pissed at the beer-gut clods weighs not against him in the search for guilt. I've been disgusted by acquaintances who through slop gun handling endangered others at a firing range. Adding strangers, intent, and false criminal accusations would go beyond. But whether the accusation was true, they screwed the pooch.

    I suspect this will turn out much like the Zimmerman mess, with many whites unable to admit that both parties were asses. The shooters here were worse than Zimmerman, and I doubt they'll be acquitted.

    I’d tell them to F themselves.

    and he’d still be alive

    • Agree: Anonymous Jew
  197. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    But, Negroes never want to cooperate,

    But [guilty] Negroes, [like guilty Caucasians] never want to cooperate.

  198. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @MrBoompi
    Even if the black guy had committed burglary, two armed rednecks rolling up to kidnap him wasn't a smart move. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, the shooter is guilty of manslaughter and attempted kidnapping, the dad for armed criminal action and attempted kidnapping. This is the difference between having a badge and not having one. A "citizen's arrest" excuse ain't gonna fly.

    Even if the black guy had committed burglary, two armed rednecks rolling up to kidnap him wasn’t a smart move. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, the shooter is guilty of manslaughter and attempted kidnapping, the dad for armed criminal action and attempted kidnapping. This is the difference between having a badge and not having one. A “citizen’s arrest” excuse ain’t gonna fly.

    Wrong, dum dum.

    In that state, they had a legal right to carry a registered firearm, and the legal right to detain someone who is suspected of a crime. If the were wrong in detaining him, the alleged perp has the right to sue them later for damages. In that state, you can’t bum rush a citizen carrying a legal firearm without opening up the the legal right for the owner/operator of that shotgun to shoot you in the face.

    You don’t need “evidence to the contrary.” You just have to bother looking up gun rights and citizens arrest and detainment rights of that state.

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    In that state, they had a legal right to carry a registered firearm, and the legal right to detain someone who is suspected of a crime.
     
    Ah, suspected!

    Well, that's just slop. The GA criteria are tighter than that, and may be inapplicable in this case. There're all sorts of ways to cook those hasty boys, and the dad, at least, should've known it. They're done, even if downgraded to manslaughter or below (e.g. aggravated assault, aiming weapon without cause). All white boys should be taking notes, keeping powder dry, and not rallying behind these hotheaded clowns. Way past the time to act, but this is not the case. Not even close.
  199. @Achmed E. Newman
    What helps with all this, Mrs. Malkin, is NOT BEING HOOKED UP TO TV. It's been 20 years and counting. Well, I mean is, it would help if it were not just me and a few others. Paying for a TV signal in any manner is just encouraging these people.

    John Prine opines:

    "Blow up your TV..."


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BofvfVPFbiM

    What even is a TV? Who owns a TV? Who watches cable news? All propaganda you need is on the Internet.

    Last time I checked, the Internet is awash with love for Negroes and transvestites, and with hatred towards Aryans and the DPR of Korea.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    The difference with the internet, Mr. Adunai, is that one can pick and choose where to get this information from. This site is an example, and you are here. The stuff out of the TV, which plenty of people still have on all the time, not to mention businesses in waiting rooms, etc. is information flow that one cannot control. It's pretty much the same narrative on all channels (don't give me any "but"s about Fox news either).
  200. Avery says:

    The several comments blaming the victim (in a roundabout way), and basically absolving the killers have no foundation:

    1. The two white guys chased this unarmed black man in their truck, fully armed and brandishing weapons.

    2. What kind of “Stand your ground” law can possibly apply here? The man was not on their property; he was jogging _away_. They chased him, cornered him and then shot him.

    3. Even IF Ahmaud looked into some vacant house (“burglary” ? !), there is no law that gives a civilian the right to leave his own house, chase the person, and confront him. You can’t claim your life is in danger, and shoot someone, if you left your own property, and went after the person – who had had no contact with you up to that point.

    4. That’s what the police are for: ‘suspicious person’,’possible burglary’, etc. Call and stay in your house, with a loaded gun, in case it is a dangerous guy and he somehow ends up in your house….. while being chased by cops……

    5. You are on your own property, someone enters it without permission, threatens you or something – blast away. But chasing after someone who you _think_ may have committed burglary at some vacant house?

    • Replies: @Kyle Kiernan
    "cornered him"

    Point to the "corner". Where are the obstacles that prevented him from continuing. The Walls. The barricades. Anything.

    White guy left of truck. Black guy right of truck.

    Nothing in front of them to stop him.

    Black guy crosses from right to left and attacks.

    The "corner" is in the black guys head that these white guys have the insolence to mess with his big ol heavy boots jog.
    , @martin_2
    "They chased him, cornered him and then shot him."

    Evidently you are unaware that there is a video of the incident. It clearly shows that they did not corner him and shoot him, but that he was killed after a violent tussle. If they had wanted to kill him they would have done so before he physically engaged one of them. The fact that he was not shot at the instant when he approached the man with the gun shows that there was never any intention to kill. He held off using his weapon, as did the other man.

    The father was apparently a retired police officer! Did he not know, with his training and experience, that it is extremely negligent and dangerous to threaten people with guns in this manner. What an incompetent fool he must be to engineer this mess. What a pair of dimwits are both father and son.
    , @The Grim Joker
    What you say has no basis in reality and although I am not a lawyer no basis either under Georgia law. Much more evidence and information has come into the public forum since the hoo haa about this incident. With time and the Grand Jury much more will be revealed. Perhaps it would be best to wait and arrive at a reasonable conclusion THEN rather than having a knee jerk reaction NOW.
  201. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Why in these cases does the white man-well, Zimmerman was basically a Latino-end up pulling a gun because he is getting thrashed?

    Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward.

    Every shooting of a black by a white seems to involve a white resorting to a gun.

    Why are blacks so often able to overpower whites?

    Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward.

    Some far more productive questions for you to answer:

    Why do black men apply their physical advantage against whites and women to get their way?

    Why do black men run from marrying the women they impregnate?

    Why do black men shuck and jive around the need to raise their own children, and insist those children be raised by the abandoned, angry mother, and eventually, the state?

    Why do blacks, on a percentage basis, kill far more white people, as well as commit violent crimes, than the other way around? Damn right a white lady is going to clutch her purse when a black man comes around. Statistically, she’d be an absolute idiot not to, if she wants to keep that purse.

    So, answer these far more important questions, won’t you?

  202. @Jeff Stryker
    Why in these cases does the white man-well, Zimmerman was basically a Latino-end up pulling a gun because he is getting thrashed?

    Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward.

    Every shooting of a black by a white seems to involve a white resorting to a gun.

    Why are blacks so often able to overpower whites?

    has to use a gun like a coward.

    First of all, if you are at a disadvantage (older, smaller, female, etc.), there is nothing cowardly about using a gun. Quite the opposite.

    Second, if, in a life and death situation that you didn’t initiate, there is the slightest possibility you may be at a disadvantage, there is nothing cowardly about using a gun. Quite the opposite.

    Third, if you are in a life and death situation that you didn’t initiate, there is a great probability your attacker believes you are at a disadvantage and a significant possibility he is right, in which case there is nothing cowardly about using a gun. Quite the opposite.

    Fourth, if a black man initiates the confrontation and the white man is unarmed and get his ass kicked, you won’t hear about it.

    Fifth, if a black man initiates the confrontation and the white man is unarmed and kicks the attacker’s ass, you won’t hear about it.

    Sixth, if a black man initiates the confrontation and the white man is armed but fails to use his weapon and gets his ass kicked, you won’t hear about it.

    Seventh, if a black man initiates the confrontation and the white man is armed and uses his weapon, you’ll hear about it in the New York Times, but not the part about initiating the conflict.

    Eighth, if a white man initiates the confrontation, and gets his ass kicked, you’ll hear about it on World Star Hip Hop.

    Ninth, if a white man initiates the confrontation, and beats the black man’s ass, you’ll hear about in the New York Times.

    • Agree: Blue Juice
  203. @Ghali
    It is disappointing and shameful on UNZ to publish this kind of racism, by someone who is a well-known racist and an illiterate.

    The black ‘jogger’ rushed the older man and grabbed his shotgun which was pointed at the ground. It is plain as day on the video. The black ‘jogger’ at that point became the aggressor. If the two white men are convicted of murder, they will have been lynched. The video just does not depict what you wish it did, so you default to the worn-out ‘racist’ baloney of an anti-white bigot.

  204. It’s. All. Such. Bullshit.

    And from what is supposed to be “a just the facts ma’m” agency.

  205. @Jeff Stryker
    Why in these cases does the white man-well, Zimmerman was basically a Latino-end up pulling a gun because he is getting thrashed?

    Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward.

    Every shooting of a black by a white seems to involve a white resorting to a gun.

    Why are blacks so often able to overpower whites?

    > “Why are blacks usually able to easily beat up whites and the white has to use a gun like a coward.”

    Because White smile. Negroes do not smile. A commenter on Chechar’s blog (maybe Joseph Walsh?) once said that the photographs from the early 20th century showed White proletarians who do not smile. And that the last vestige of that spirit was only preserved later in prisons (where Negroes prevailed around the 1960s).

  206. @anonymous
    I agree. Headline promises a lot, delivers little, which is unusual for Malkin.

    The fact that the publicity for this shooting is being supplied by some disreputable hustlers does not change what actually happened.

    Supposedly, the shooter did not actually see the deceased commit a crime (suspecting and seeing are not the same thing) and so did not have cause to (citizen's) arrest him. There is film, which may show that the victim of the shooting did not display a weapon or attempt to use deadly force. IF THIS IS TRUE, and the investigation supports prosecution, these men should be prosecuted.

    There are links right here in these comments that will counter the argument for murder. But any facts like that will not appear on NBC or CNN or any other place that the vast majority still trust, for some reason, to tell them the facts. The truth is that pretty much no one here, Malkin included, is in possession of the evidence that the trial court will have to consider. But Malkin’s point is that Talcum X and his buddy are interested in agitating for blood for their own ideology and for profit
    Crump too. Hopefully George Zimmerman will win his civil suit against Crump and others involved in the Trayvon travesty, and Crump will be disbarred.

  207. anon[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    "If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out/"


    Because, looking in a window is not a crime, , if that is what happened, neither is walking or jogging -- there simply no cause to do anything --- and the reverse is the case -- call the police and let them deal with it, it is not as if he was hiding.

    -----------------

    You people are a trip. Excuse me, if you confront me with a weapon -- you might get more than you bargained for in resistance. You are not in uniform, you are not a police officer -- regardless of your claim to motive, I am not entitled to obey your demands or even respond as if you matter.


    Now I have to admit, it takes a might brave sole to confront someone with a weapon, when all you have is your body -- but, anyone being confronted in such a matter is entitle to self defense. laughing.


    Shocker of shockers --- whites coming out of the woodwork, claiming they saw him peeking in windows -- there's a shock.

    So if i had to guess, this community has held one segment in lockdown by virtue of suspicion and gun toting and should challenge their authority they will attack you. If you defend yourself they will shoot you and cry self defense.


    I like to avoid these articles -- but good grief.

    if you confront me with a weapon — you might get more than you bargained for in resistance

    If you try to take my gun from me, you will definitely be shot. And unlike the guys in the video, I’ll shoot you on approach. Furthermore, unless you’re black (I’m white) I’ll probably walk, since in just about any reasonably gun-friendly jurisdiction, trying to take a man’s gun is justifiable grounds for self-defense.

    I’d guess most of the conserva-cucks and virtue-signalling lolberts condemning the “hicks” are unarmed urbanites. This is indicated by (for instance) the idea that the correct way to deal with an armed opponent is to go after his gun, since clearly, merely pointing a gun at someone results in instant death-ray destruction (/sarc). These sorts of attitudes belie an experience with firearms rooted in television and not reality. (Protip: run from the gun. It’s actually hard to hit you with a handgun, and that shotgun’s lethality drops off radically with range).

    The endless argumentation over the background to this confrontation does not ultimately matter, since the plain evidence on video is of a guy with his gun pointed at the ground being attacked by another guy, who gets shot. This is exhaustively detailed in the recused DA’s letter.

    The lack of any clear, simple principle here is depressing. In my grandfathers’ day, even putting aside the racial angle, there would be no question what was “right” here. “Damn fool deserved to get shot, you don’t go for another man’s gun”.

    This “nation” richly deserves what’s coming. In fact, under this degree of emergent anarcho-tyranny, the BEST we can hope for is full collapse, as soon as possible. Then we’ll at least be free to protect ourselves. I’ll take anarchy over anarcho-tyranny.

    • Agree: Blue Juice
  208. @Blue Juice
    The truth is there...if you know where to look.
    1.) Ahmaud "Maude" Arbery was a 2-time convicted thief who couldn't hold down a job even though he was 25-years old. In fact there is no record of him ever having a full-time job but plenty of run-ins with the law, indulging in an expensive marijuana habit as well as threatening his father's side of the family.
    2.) However his family, extortion team and the MSM claim that the deceased was on his "daily jog". Wearing a dirty white t-shirt, cargo pants and Timberlands.
    3.) After weeks of denials his family has finally admitted that he was seen on security video rummaging through a house under rehab. But that he was not committing a burglary but was "interested in construction"! Apparently the rehab project was so interesting to an unemployed thief and "aspiring electrician" that he had to stop in the middle of his run to walk 40 feet off the street and onto and into the property of some stranger.
    4.) When confronted by a neighbor and told that police were on the way (and then identified by the McMichaels as the offender who fled the scene of burglary earlier in the week), Arbery continued on his daily jog...through someone's yard and onto a dead-end street! The McMichaels and an unknown second driver with a cellphone camera were in pursuit.
    5.) When stopped the first-time Arbery turned around and ran onto Holmes Drive where the second confrontation happened and Arbery charged, punched in the head and attempted to grab a semi-auto shotgun away from a legally armed man (Travis McMichael). Arbery was shot in the hand and again in the chest. At no time did anyone hear Arbery yell "help or stop harassing me".
    6. ) Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police? Was it murder or self-defense? If it was 1st degree murder why didn't the McMichaels simply shoot him from the truck or run him over? Those are the facts...you be the judge...

    How do you know any of this? Links? Were you there? Is the UNZ site so important that the local KKK has actually paid you to spread this disinformation? About the only compelling point you made is if the jogger was actually wearing Timberland boots. Otherwise, the answer is NO, and nobody “has to stop” nor even rely on “just waiting for the police”. I don’t care what anybody thinks this man did by snooping around empty houses or whatever, they had no right to confront him and especially not brandishing firearms.

    Why didn’t THEY just follow at a safe distance and “wait for the police”? I have no burden or duty to stop just because you feel lie engaging with me. and this is the root of white privileges which is really white arrogance. And i say this as white man myself who has been affronted too may times by weak people who think they’re magically entitled. I have seen this too many times up close.

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    and this is the root of white privileges which is really white arrogance. And i say this as white man myself
     
    Uh, no. You're no man, and likely not white.

    The UR community welcomes you, however, in celebration of your first comment at the joint, my fellow white. Still, as your sisters in the movement never tire of sanctimonifying, "Do better."

    Never thought I'd say that. Must puke now.

    , @Cowtown Rebel
    I sincerely hope that the next time you are "affronted" (confronted?), it will be by some surly Negroes who beat you to within an inch of your life for your cell phone. I also hope that there are a bunch of Negro "witnesses" around who claim that you called them all N*ggers and you end up emerging from your coma to find that you are facing Hate Crime charges. I hope that it makes the MSM and that no one believes that you were the victim rather than the instigator.

    Then we'll see how your illusion of "magically entitled" rapidly vanishes into thin air faster than Houdini could say abracadabra.
    , @Blue Juice
    No I wasn't there...and neither were you. However you could have watched the cellphone video and the 4 released security videos in their entirety and read the 2 official investigative reports (all of which will be used in court) and social media posts by all involved before taking such a stance on shaky ground. (There is an attempt to scrub, edit and delete them by the MSM and the Arbery's PR team so what does that tell you?) Again...the truth is there if you know where to look.

    I seriously doubt anyone from the KKK is reading The Unz Review (Bwahahahaha!) It's why I like reading and commenting here. I like it a little less after reading comments from the Excuse Patrol like you who have knee-jerk reactions to something that makes you feel uncomfortable and then condone the actions of a violent thug. It's now universally agreed (by many other people who weren't there) that Maud was no innocent "jogger". His family even admitted as much before they were stifled by their attorneys. I tried relating facts...you offered platitudes.
  209. @AceDeuce
    About 10 years ago, I had to live (for work) in the burbs of a large Northeastern city (think Baltimore) for a month.

    One schitthole part of the city was full of poor blacks and hispanics. One warm spring morning a 9 yr old hispanic girl was walking to school alone. She cut theough an alley and was accosted by a negro who grabbed her. He tore her clothes and probably would have done much worse, but she got away and ran. She told her mother and the news spread throughout the block. The cops were also called.

    The local layabout men put down their morning joints and scoured the area. They suspected a local halfwit perv, a black hispanic guy. There was no evidence, just a vaguely similar description from the girl, who had never seen him before.

    Anyway, a large mob of the local men (all negro/hispanic themselves) found him. Several started beating the schitt out of him while a few cooler heads tried to keep him alive for the cops. Cops got there soon after and basically saved this guy's life. As it was, he was severely beaten and was hospitalized for days.

    My point? The mayor, city council, local newspaper, and the public commended the local posse for hunting this guy down. They were "heroes". No problem with 10-12 men beating him half to death-many citizens indicated they wish he had been killed. Now, no one saw the guy do anything. He had rights, due process, etc. The girl was unharmed except for a torn shirt.

    You got any problems with that? Or do you see any difference?

    Or do you see any difference?

    Well now, one (allegedly) tried to rape a little girl, and the other (allegedly) was taking a jog.

    Nah, no difference.

  210. Truth says:
    @Trinity
    Do you people remember when a Black woman abducted a 12 year old white boy in Texas and burned him to death with a blowtorch?

    Speaking of Georgia. Do you people remember hearing about a White woman and her kids being purposely ran over by a car driven by a Black male in a McDonald's parking lot? This happened way back around 2004, but hey, we still hear about Rodney King.

    IF you answered no, congrats, you are part of everyday normal American society, you have the pleasure of hardly ever reading, seeing or hearing about Black on White crime that is purposely BLACKED OUT by the JEWISH RUN AND CONTROLLED MEDIA.

    A question for Whites and even Hispanics, and Orientals. Would you feel safe jogging alone in an all Black ghetto even in the daytime? Well, you know what I see all the time living in a 98% White small town in JawJah, that's right racist Georgia, I see lone Black females and males walking all by their lonesome and they aren't molested verbally or harassed much less physically attacked. Now go and try walking in the hood as a lone White female or even a White male in the hood in Atlanta, Baltimore or Philly and tell me how long you last without being at least threatened. You would be lucky not to be sucker punched at the very least. And yet with all the THOUSANDS OF BLACK ON WHITE UNPROVOKED PHYSICAL ATTACKS, AND THESE ATTACKS OFTEN ARE BRUTAL, YOU NEVER SEE THE MEDIA COVERAGE OR ANGERED "ANTI-RACISTS" OUT THERE PROTESTING FOR JUSTICE. haha. It looks like these "anti-racists" SJW and others aren't crusaders for justice but they are just hate-filled anti-White racist who only crawl out from under their rock and for 20-30 bucks an hour courtesy of Daddy Sorosbucks march along and spew "Hate Whitey," and maybe loot some liquor stores that happen to be on the way. Also this gives these "anti-racists" a perfect opportunity or is it an excuse to pull innocent Whites out of their cars and beat them to a pulp.

    Do you people remember when a Black woman abducted a 12 year old white boy in Texas and burned him to death with a blowtorch?

    No, not really.

    Speaking of Georgia. Do you people remember hearing about a White woman and her kids being purposely ran over by a car driven by a Black male in a McDonald’s parking lot?

    No.

    This happened way back around 2004,

    OK, that would explain it.

    but hey, we still hear about Rodney King.

    He’s been dead for 8 years, Sport.

    I see lone Black females and males walking all by their lonesome and they aren’t molested verbally or harassed much less physically attacked.

    And that has what to do with this jogger being shot and killed?

    THOUSANDS OF BLACK ON WHITE UNPROVOKED PHYSICAL ATTACKS, AND THESE ATTACKS OFTEN ARE BRUTAL, YOU NEVER SEE THE MEDIA COVERAGE OR ANGERED “ANTI-RACISTS” OUT THERE PROTESTING FOR JUSTICE. haha

    Well then I think you owe Paul- K a heartfelt “thank you”… And a healthy donation.

  211. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ram
    " King’s post of the purloined video "

    The video was published by the accuseds' lawyer. It was not purloined in anyway.

    According to a police report, the man, Gregory McMichael, 64, called out to his son, Travis McMichael, 34. They grabbed their weapons, a .357 magnum revolver and a shotgun, jumped into a truck and began following Mr. Arbery.
    “Stop, stop,” they shouted at Mr. Arbery, “we want to talk to you.”
    Moments later, after a struggle over the shotgun, Mr. Arbery was killed, shot at least twice.

    According to documents obtained by The New York Times, a prosecutor who had the case for a few weeks told the police that the pursuers had acted within the scope of Georgia’s citizen’s arrest statute, and that Travis McMichael, who held the shotgun, had acted out of self-defense.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/us/ahmed-arbery-shooting-georgia.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

    The man, Roddie Bryan, lives in the neighborhood. He had shared the video with the police before sharing it with Mr. Tucker and was cooperating with the authorities, his lawyer, Kevin Gough, said in an interview Friday evening.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/us/ahmaud-arbery-video-lawyer.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    Prosecutor should be charged as well and same goes for the police .

    • Replies: @freedom-cat
    Doesn't look like they were following him. They were waiting for him.
  212. @eah
    The audio of the event was recorded via a 911 call that was taking place when the shooting occured and you can hear the victim yelling ‘Help’ and moments later a shot.

    Actually it was Zimmerman yelling because Martin was on top of him, punching him in the face and pounding his head into the ground (corroborated by Zimmerman's injuries) -- when he first listened to the tape of the 9/11 call, Martin's own father said the voice of the person yelling was not that of his son (he later lied and denied he said that) -- several people who knew Zimmerman said it was his voice.

    Zimmerman stalked followed Martin because after a series of break-ins he found Martin suspicious, which was not unreasonable, everything considered; and it is not illegal to follow someone -- Zimmerman never "confronted" Martin; it was Martin who more or less ambushed and physically attacked Zimmerman -- Martin was 5'11" and a strong young hardass black man; Zimmerman was only 5'7", and built like the Pillsbury Doughboy -- yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help -- that is ridiculous.

    But people like you are usually impervious to such facts/arguments.

    yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help

    Well…

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/6/28/4475994/george-zimmerman-training-mma-weeks-before-trayvon-martin-shooting

    • Replies: @MrTea
    So what? He was interested in neighborhood security and it would be normal for someone like that to prep for it. I once worked retail in a rough environment and began wearing steel-toes as a prep measure.

    BTW the entire premise that Trayvon was crying for help is disputed. I remember it well as upon seeing the howlers on the news networks the night the story "broke" I web-surfed to the Sanford Florida municipal website and discovered that the 9-1-1 calls from the incident were online to listen to. (Something I never saw mentioned on the news). Martin's own father expressed the opinion that it did not sound like his son's voice but later recanted after hearing what was supposedly an "enhanced" version. The tapes were however played to the jury.

    But no matter. It's an informative exercise to search for the various renditions of the case, typically selectively edited as is the norm with these cases i.e. Michael Brown in Ferguson MO etc.
  213. Anonymous[432] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghali
    It is disappointing and shameful on UNZ to publish this kind of racism, by someone who is a well-known racist and an illiterate.

    UNZ doesn’t exist to wipe your ass for you. Feel free to go back where you came from, on the internet and in real life.

    • Replies: @Ghali
    It exists NOT because of illiterate racist bigots, but because of people who can think and use analysis rather than those who thrive on hatred and racism like you and Malkin. Facebook will put you in the rubbish pin.
  214. @Johnny C Goode
    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?

    Did the other men say something extremely threatening? Why was the shotgun brandished in the first place? Why was one guy out in the open if they thought Arbery had a gun? Were they simply looking for trouble?

    A jury needs to decide (not hysterical leftists and MSM).

    There was also a hammer seemingly dropped by the jogger that the video even turns to focus on as driving up the road, before turning the camera back on the three men ahead. Still shots show it to certainly be a hammer, as it also appears that he’s wearing work-style boots and cargo shorts (not exactly jogging gear).

  215. Anonymous[432] • Disclaimer says:
    @NegroPantera
    How can anyone in his or her right mind support those two sick and dumb red necks who killed that man for nothing?
    So what even if he was a burglar?If these dumb red necks had any brains they would have waited for the proper authority to arrest him rather than blowing his mid section with a 12 Gauge shotgun.
    BTW, Ms Malkin would not be accepted by the likes of those red necks who committed this terrible crime. After all she is a darky and all darkys ,brown and Black, are considered N$$$rs by these mother fucking dumb red necks.

    Relying on “proper authority” is why White America is in the situation that it is. If we had 1 million Dylan Roofs negros wouldn’t exist in this country.

    • Replies: @Truth
    LOL, hey if we had a million Dylan Klebolds, neither would whites...
  216. @rtm
    So, you determine the guilt/innocence in a murder case based on the advocates for one of the parties?
    How about focusing on the evidence itself?

    Good point. Even a broken clock is right twice a day

  217. @Henry's Cat
    Why the rush to judgement? Let the case play out.

    Simple why prompt correct legal judgement and disposal matters:
    Bankruptcy for the survivors of an attack by a crazed man or desperate criminal, caused by an unnecessary trial.

    There’s very little to “play out” if something extraordinary can’t be demonstrated that there was much more to this case, like pre-existing bad blood and more compromising footage. Waste of taxpayer resources and race based, malicious prosecution is what it looks like.

  218. Low IQ.

    High testosterone.

    No impulse control.

    • Replies: @Truth
    IKR, they need to stop going to those monster truck rallies and demoltion derbies.
  219. @eah
    The audio of the event was recorded via a 911 call that was taking place when the shooting occured and you can hear the victim yelling ‘Help’ and moments later a shot.

    Actually it was Zimmerman yelling because Martin was on top of him, punching him in the face and pounding his head into the ground (corroborated by Zimmerman's injuries) -- when he first listened to the tape of the 9/11 call, Martin's own father said the voice of the person yelling was not that of his son (he later lied and denied he said that) -- several people who knew Zimmerman said it was his voice.

    Zimmerman stalked followed Martin because after a series of break-ins he found Martin suspicious, which was not unreasonable, everything considered; and it is not illegal to follow someone -- Zimmerman never "confronted" Martin; it was Martin who more or less ambushed and physically attacked Zimmerman -- Martin was 5'11" and a strong young hardass black man; Zimmerman was only 5'7", and built like the Pillsbury Doughboy -- yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help -- that is ridiculous.

    But people like you are usually impervious to such facts/arguments.

    yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help

    He was yelling help because a gun was pointed at him, imbecile.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    Trayvon was yelling for help? I didn't know that. I thought he circled around and jumped the afro-hispanic who was following him and started to inflict the "ground-and-pound" style beatdown he was on record as being fond of using in street fights. Then, mid-beating, the afro-hispanic he was brutally beating managed to get his weapon out at drill Trayvon. Trayvon then reportedly said, "You got me."
  220. @KA
    rbery was killed in February. One of his killers, Gregory McMichael, is a retired police detective. The other killer is McMichael’s son, Travis. One had a handgun, the other a shotgun. For more than two months, no charges were filed, despite the pleas from Arbery’s family. McMichael told his friends in the cop shop that he believed Arbery was a suspect in a string of robberies in the neighborhood in Brunswick. But police records show there’d only been one reported burglary in the past month. No charges were filed. The prosecutor, searching for an excuse, said the McMichaels had the right to detain Arbery under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away.

    Then, earlier this week, a cellphone video of the shooting surfaced, showing that Arbery was shot within mere seconds of being accosted by the McMichaels.-www.counterpunch.com https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/08/roaming-charges-aint-living-long-like-this/

    Like this "under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away”

    Will Syria or Venezuela or Serbia emulate this law ? What about Japan and Philippine?

    “And to shoot him when he ran away.”

    absolutely not shot running away. Total flat out lie.

    Damns every other thing you say.

    • Agree: acementhead
  221. @Blue Juice
    The truth is there...if you know where to look.
    1.) Ahmaud "Maude" Arbery was a 2-time convicted thief who couldn't hold down a job even though he was 25-years old. In fact there is no record of him ever having a full-time job but plenty of run-ins with the law, indulging in an expensive marijuana habit as well as threatening his father's side of the family.
    2.) However his family, extortion team and the MSM claim that the deceased was on his "daily jog". Wearing a dirty white t-shirt, cargo pants and Timberlands.
    3.) After weeks of denials his family has finally admitted that he was seen on security video rummaging through a house under rehab. But that he was not committing a burglary but was "interested in construction"! Apparently the rehab project was so interesting to an unemployed thief and "aspiring electrician" that he had to stop in the middle of his run to walk 40 feet off the street and onto and into the property of some stranger.
    4.) When confronted by a neighbor and told that police were on the way (and then identified by the McMichaels as the offender who fled the scene of burglary earlier in the week), Arbery continued on his daily jog...through someone's yard and onto a dead-end street! The McMichaels and an unknown second driver with a cellphone camera were in pursuit.
    5.) When stopped the first-time Arbery turned around and ran onto Holmes Drive where the second confrontation happened and Arbery charged, punched in the head and attempted to grab a semi-auto shotgun away from a legally armed man (Travis McMichael). Arbery was shot in the hand and again in the chest. At no time did anyone hear Arbery yell "help or stop harassing me".
    6. ) Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police? Was it murder or self-defense? If it was 1st degree murder why didn't the McMichaels simply shoot him from the truck or run him over? Those are the facts...you be the judge...

    Blue, you made Free Republic with this post. Good info, you have buddies in GA?

    • Replies: @Blue Juice
    No ma'am. The Dark Web. So take that for what's its worth but so far has been way more accurate than the MSM who have hundreds of "journalists"/interns/investigators working and spinning this story.

    In fact law enforcement and the GBI are looking to prosecute anyone leaking info to the press. For a more objective take on this tragedy please read the UK's Daily Mail. It sure looks like the McMichaels (and their neighbors and friends) are being sacrificed to appease the mob.

    I just asked for people to be the judge only after more facts came to light when half of the Unz crowd strangely took the MSM's word that Ahmaud was a jogger who was racially profiled, surrounded and killed in cold blood. Everything the MSM says about this tragedy has to be double and triple-checked now.
  222. @Anonymous

    Even if the black guy had committed burglary, two armed rednecks rolling up to kidnap him wasn’t a smart move. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, the shooter is guilty of manslaughter and attempted kidnapping, the dad for armed criminal action and attempted kidnapping. This is the difference between having a badge and not having one. A “citizen’s arrest” excuse ain’t gonna fly.
     
    Wrong, dum dum.

    In that state, they had a legal right to carry a registered firearm, and the legal right to detain someone who is suspected of a crime. If the were wrong in detaining him, the alleged perp has the right to sue them later for damages. In that state, you can’t bum rush a citizen carrying a legal firearm without opening up the the legal right for the owner/operator of that shotgun to shoot you in the face.

    You don’t need "evidence to the contrary." You just have to bother looking up gun rights and citizens arrest and detainment rights of that state.

    In that state, they had a legal right to carry a registered firearm, and the legal right to detain someone who is suspected of a crime.

    Ah, suspected!

    Well, that’s just slop. The GA criteria are tighter than that, and may be inapplicable in this case. There’re all sorts of ways to cook those hasty boys, and the dad, at least, should’ve known it. They’re done, even if downgraded to manslaughter or below (e.g. aggravated assault, aiming weapon without cause). All white boys should be taking notes, keeping powder dry, and not rallying behind these hotheaded clowns. Way past the time to act, but this is not the case. Not even close.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    I appreciate your line of reasoning, but care to make a friendly wager? No way to pay out, so it will have to be a gentleman's bet.

    I'm not going to get into how I feel about what the white guys did--but more importantly, neither of us know the full context behind what any of the players in this grotesque drama did.

    You say, "Ah, suspected! Well, that's just slop. Georgia criteria are tighter than that."

    The Georgia criteria are what, exactly?

    What gave the two white men the idea that they had probable cause?

    What, exactly, did the dead man do before he was shot? Did he commit any crimes? Trespassing is a crime. Did he steal anything? What did any other witnesses see him do, if anything?

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? Did the other white man have the right to shoot the black man as the black man was attempting to take the shotgun away?

    I understand that the media and social media mobs will be just as big--if not bigger--factors than the actual letter of the law, but my bet is that the two white men will not be convicted of First Degree Murder. And the official who wrote out his reasons for not pressing charges will not merely fall on his sword.

  223. @Avery
    The several comments blaming the victim (in a roundabout way), and basically absolving the killers have no foundation:

    1. The two white guys chased this unarmed black man in their truck, fully armed and brandishing weapons.

    2. What kind of "Stand your ground" law can possibly apply here? The man was not on their property; he was jogging _away_. They chased him, cornered him and then shot him.

    3. Even IF Ahmaud looked into some vacant house ("burglary" ? !), there is no law that gives a civilian the right to leave his own house, chase the person, and confront him. You can't claim your life is in danger, and shoot someone, if you left your own property, and went after the person - who had had no contact with you up to that point.

    4. That's what the police are for: 'suspicious person','possible burglary', etc. Call and stay in your house, with a loaded gun, in case it is a dangerous guy and he somehow ends up in your house..... while being chased by cops......

    5. You are on your own property, someone enters it without permission, threatens you or something - blast away. But chasing after someone who you _think_ may have committed burglary at some vacant house?

    “cornered him”

    Point to the “corner”. Where are the obstacles that prevented him from continuing. The Walls. The barricades. Anything.

    White guy left of truck. Black guy right of truck.

    Nothing in front of them to stop him.

    Black guy crosses from right to left and attacks.

    The “corner” is in the black guys head that these white guys have the insolence to mess with his big ol heavy boots jog.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    I agree to the extent the Black man could have gotten away if he really wanted to. Or at least he could have avoided getting shot. On the other hand, if you watch the video frame by frame you can see the White guy crosses the center line of the highway to met the Black man tries to run around the truck.

    I’m pretty sure they got the right thug, and this guy was a waste of space. That said you can’t chase someone down with a gun and corner them.
    , @Avery
    Read my entire post:

    The white guys left the safety of their house, armed themselves, got into their truck and chased after him.

    Chased after him.


    The dad allegedly told the son: "I think it's him...." (....some black guy who had supposedly burglarized a house or something months ago...)

    By what logic do you justify two guys arming themselves, leaving the safety of their house, chasing him in a truck, catching up with him - and cornering him: what else do you call a couple of civilians pointing guns at you. One of them pointing a shotgun at you.

    An alleged 'burglary' suspect?
  224. @Thicket
    How do you know any of this? Links? Were you there? Is the UNZ site so important that the local KKK has actually paid you to spread this disinformation? About the only compelling point you made is if the jogger was actually wearing Timberland boots. Otherwise, the answer is NO, and nobody "has to stop" nor even rely on "just waiting for the police". I don't care what anybody thinks this man did by snooping around empty houses or whatever, they had no right to confront him and especially not brandishing firearms.

    Why didn't THEY just follow at a safe distance and "wait for the police"? I have no burden or duty to stop just because you feel lie engaging with me. and this is the root of white privileges which is really white arrogance. And i say this as white man myself who has been affronted too may times by weak people who think they're magically entitled. I have seen this too many times up close.

    and this is the root of white privileges which is really white arrogance. And i say this as white man myself

    Uh, no. You’re no man, and likely not white.

    The UR community welcomes you, however, in celebration of your first comment at the joint, my fellow white. Still, as your sisters in the movement never tire of sanctimonifying, “Do better.”

    Never thought I’d say that. Must puke now.

    • Replies: @Thicket
    You sound like a faggot
  225. the main reason to doubt the official story is that africans don’t jog. track and road runner for 30 years here, can count on my fingers the number of other joggers i’ve passed that were africans. bantu descended africans in the US basically don’t run anything over the 800 meters in track & field.

    also a metal head for over 30 years. there are more africans at metal concerts than african joggers. i have posted on Unz before that in some states, maybe as many as 2% of the people at a big show are african. there’s even some metal bands with african guys in them. but pretty much no 5000 meter runners in the states are west africans.

    think about that next time they tell you this guy was a jogger. there are more africans at heavy metal concerts than africans who are joggers.

    • Agree: Genrick Yagoda
    • Replies: @Truth

    the main reason to doubt the official story is that africans don’t jog.
     
    Open and shut Bro! I hope the prosecuting attorney reads this. He can just use it as his opening remark and rest his case.
    , @TheTrumanShow
    Track, road, and off-road runner for 40+ years, here, and my initial thought, too, about the victim: WTF? A black jogger? Maybe he was hang-gliding.
    , @anonymous jew
    Spot on. I'm also a runner and even ran a couple DC (aka Chocolate City) marathons where I used to live. I can confirm: Bantus don't jog. And even if they did they wouldn't jog in work boots.

    I don't think whether or not this particular Bantu is guilty is what's at issue (at least here on Unz). It's whether - even assuming he was trying to steal - the two Keystone Cops were justified in chasing him down with rifles/guns.
    , @Genrick Yagoda
    Just want to add my voice here. I belonged to 2 running groups in Orange county, primarily the OC roadrunners club and one other whose name escapes me. Of course there were the hard core members but each club would see at least 50 people for special events.

    I ran daily. Not always with the club, but I never, not once saw a black jogging on any of my runs.
  226. “You got any problems with that? Or do you see any difference?”

    I am not sure what the issue here is.

    According to your comments; the man in question that was beaten up — was neither a person for which a warrant was on the table and there was no evidence that he ha done anything to anyone anywhere . . .

    The men who attacked this gentlemen should have been prosecuted for assault. Your suspicions does not a criminal make.

    Not in Macon County, not in Green Bay, Not in Billings, not in Philadelphia, not in Tupello, Not in Los Angeles . . . not in Denver . . . tat is the principle. But in practice, the country as a whole has spent 200 years hyping suspicion of blacks as a criminal condition an proceeded to operate in the same.

    An any black man who does not comply with the practice is putting himself at risk. Which as tool is used to further increase suspicion – hence the none to surprising comments about . . .” if he dd not do anything he should be ok with the violation of his person. Because he should have nothing to hide . . .

    a mystifying position given that the founders fought to protect the very right many claim he should give up to bolster his innocence — An some blacks whether Attillas or Henry David Thorou’s — ,ight be willing to risk, life and limb to say

    “No.”

    Whether it is a white woman demanding some black erase a blackboard, demanding a grade she did not earn, undermining his teaching by having private sessions with his or her students or the local police.

    You see the revolutionary war for country as needless as it was in short was about a new and separate identity — with ability to say

    “No”

    to arbitrary authority against one’s person.

    So if in fact in your scenario as written the gentleman who was beaten up on suspicion and I will go a step further — even if guilty — are themselves under suspicion for assault and battery at least —

    we have general principle in this country, absent for a large segment of the population —

    “due process”

    it has its own ill manifestations — but it serves as a stop gap from marauding crusaders — white, black male or female . . .

  227. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    What is your source for the pre-video activities of this incident as well as Arbery’s criminal background? Thanks.

  228. The McMichael’s lied. The video contradicts their testimony to the prosecutor. They hunted him down and created a gauntlet. The guy taking the video no doubt was part of it bringing up the rear in case the black male jogger turned his way away from the gauntlet. The camera gets diverted momentarily because he’s loading a clip. If anyone was acting in self-defense, it was Arbery, not the McMichael’s. The fact the McMichael’s lied is proof of their guilt. If you’re not guilty, there’s no need to lie. The McMichael’s stalked Arbery. They hunted him down. Without cause and no, the citizen’s arrest law if you read it and understand it does not apply here. The McMichael’s provided the context for everything that went down. They provoked the situation. Arbery had every right to defend himself. He had every reason to believe his life was in danger and he had every right to try to defend himself which he did because he was acting in self-defense in a situation he did nothing to provoke. You can be sure if the tables were turned, and these were two back guys in place of the McMichael’s and it was a white male jogger the commentators here absurdly defending the McMichael’s would be calling for the death penalty for the black murderers. As for me, I’d have the same opinion of this I have now. The color of anyone’s skin has nothing to do with it. Justice is blind, or it should be.

    • Replies: @vot tak
    Well said.

    The two factors here behind the promotion of the killers and smearing of the victim are bigotry and far right, likud style zionazi-gay divisive psywar.

    The bigots are ecstatic whites killed a black, they'd love to kill one themselves, but lack the initiative, support network or balls. To them it's one less of "them". These are basically very insecure individuals about their own worth who need somebody defenseless to beat on.

    The psywar wonks are a bit more complicated. One of the ways oligarchy in the usa was maintained was through keeping the population divided and at each others throats. This keeps them too occupied to take on massa. Part of that divisiveness psywar is about race and ethnic culture.

    In the last few decades the israeli far right, likud and co., has essentially taken over this race divisive psywar in the usa and increasingly around the world. The racist views posted here about blacks mimic the views of netanyahoo almost word for word. The old time zombiefied pindo bigot has now been subsidized by zionazia, inc. IE: scratch a white supremacist/nazi wannabee and you find a zionazi-gay propagandist or zombiefied dupe underneath.

    Why would israel want to promote racial divide in the usa? Because the usa is now an israeli colony and it is in zionazi-gay interests to keep americans stupid, divided and fighting each other, rather than letting them see who is really buggering their collective arses.
  229. @JimDandy
    So, citizen's arrest with probably cause is not legal in Georgia?

    Citizen’s arrest should be an extreme last resort… …like when the perp is attacking you and/or a loved one and/or trespassing on your property. Not casing a neighbor’s property; that’s for the neighbor and/or the cops. George Zimmerman was watching, not trying to arrest.

    That having been said, it’s ridiculous to call it cold-blooded murder, or even murder at all. Manslaughter, and possibly a lower degree of manslaughter.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    I was just wondering what the actual letter of the law is there, but some people sent me some of the language. I'm waiting to hear all the facts on this. If, in fact, they confronted some random jogger with guns, and killed him, they should go all the way down. But I have no reason yet to believe that that was the case.
  230. @KenH

    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
     
    Watch the video. Arbery clearly bull rushes the younger McMichael while throwing punches. McMichael didn't fire a shot until after he was attacked.

    Now perhaps this was all a misunderstanding and mistaken identity but the McMichael's broke no Georgia laws. However, they did offend the sensibilities of black twitter, journos and social justice warriors around the nation which is a grievous offense.

    The Georgia law, as I understand it, allows for a citizen’s arrest if the citizen has witnessed a felony crime. But the McMichael’s did not witness a felony crime, as far as I can see. How they heard about the trespass of Arbery on the house under construction–and in real time–is unclear to me. Did the same person who called 911 call McMichael as well?

    Obviously, there was some sort of informal neighborhood watch program in effect, because they couldn’t have organized the video-recording chase car on the fly.

    The person who called 911 said that Arbery had been recorded on video at the house under construction at night on several occasions. Will be interesting to see if that video exists.

    And apparently, McMichael Sr remembered Arbery from when he was in the prosecutor’s office and Arbery was arrested for bringing a loaded pistol to a high school basketball game. It would be nice if for once, one of this black victims didn’t have the usual black prior record of criminality, and we could actually imagine them as fully respectable citizens.

    I would also be interested to know what line of work Arbery was in, if any. He was several years out of high school. Did he have any income of any kind?

  231. @the shadow
    Just to make it clear. Some racist goon stopping me on the street has nio expectation that I have any obligatioin to be compliant with whatever demands he makes., Indeed, merely making sucvh demands when he has not authrotu to expet comliance is in itself a villation of any citizen's civil rights. SO IT'S THE PERSON MAKING THAT DEMAND AND SEEKING TO ENFORCE IT WHO IS THE AGRRESSOR, AND HIS VICTIM HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST SUCH EFFRONTERY.

    The black ‘jogger’ ran towards the older man and grabbed the man’s shot gun ( which was pointed down at the ground ) making the ‘jogger’ aggressor. The video clearly shows that.

    • Replies: @Truth
    There's a thing called the "fight or flight instinct", Bro. It's a continum from one to the other. Some of us instinctively favor one or the other, by varying degrees.

    The reason this is unfamiliar to you is that you are, genetically, 100% predisposed to the latter, and had to look the former up.
  232. MrTea says:
    @mark green
    Thanx for the photo. Revealing. Watch the MSM attempt to ignore pertinent background info about 'jogger' Ahmaud Arbery. Omissions of this kind are routine and orchestrated. It's reminiscent of how the MSM characterized career criminal, Rodney King, as an innocent (black) 'motorist' before the LA race riots ensued. The toxic, anti-white narrative continues.

    This latest incident is actually notable for one thing: white-on-black crime remains relatively rare compared to the reverse: black-on-white violence. But watch the (((MSM))) ignore that persistent fact.

    Here's a recent incident of abhorrent criminality that didn't rock the journalistic world (or stir national 'outrage'). Why? It doesn't comport with the anti-white agenda.

    https://news.yahoo.com/father-throws-one-old-daughter-144853088.html

    Similarly the item about the store security guard shot and killed over him telling shoppers they had to wear masks appears to have gone quickly down the Memory Hole. There are suspects in custody. All involved on both sides of the crime are black. I would think the relevance to the current Corona Crisis would justify coverage of this as a warning.

    The Selective News Media does not care what about real events, nor their correct context. They already wrote the “news” and only seek evidence to support their pre-arranged pseudo-narrative.

  233. @Anonymous
    This is not George Zimmerman redux.
    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
    It makes no difference if the black dude was KNOWN to be just previously engaged in property crimes. (And there hardly seems to be clear evidence supporting that....)
    These FUCKING MORONS, by their OWN TESTIMONY, confronted him in a hostile manner while displaying a gun.
    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don't pause to reflect on your own moral state... AIM TO GET THE GUN!
    It does seem that this is not murder but rather homicide or manslaughter (and I do hope that justice prevails against the race hustlers), but this "father" is a jackass who has inflicted considerable harm on his son. But his son is a pussy for listening to a jackass father.
    They both deserve hard time, even if the black dude was a criminal.
    That's what the facts suggest to me. Michelle Malkin sometimes calls it, but not this time.
    A genuinely stupid article. Race hustlers can get it right for the wrong reasons. DUH.

    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don’t pause to reflect on your own moral state… AIM TO GET THE GUN!

    This I don’t agree with, morally or practically. It’s suicidal, unless you’re another Chuck Norris, and maybe even if you are, if the gun is pointed at you, or close to it. If in fact the gun is pointed downward, it can be reasonably argued that you’ve become the aggressor. If the gun is pointed downward and the gun pointer is yelling and screaming, it moves into the same category as if the gun is pointed at you.

  234. @Adûnâi
    What even is a TV? Who owns a TV? Who watches cable news? All propaganda you need is on the Internet.

    Last time I checked, the Internet is awash with love for Negroes and transvestites, and with hatred towards Aryans and the DPR of Korea.

    The difference with the internet, Mr. Adunai, is that one can pick and choose where to get this information from. This site is an example, and you are here. The stuff out of the TV, which plenty of people still have on all the time, not to mention businesses in waiting rooms, etc. is information flow that one cannot control. It’s pretty much the same narrative on all channels (don’t give me any “but”s about Fox news either).

    • Agree: Oscar Peterson
    • Replies: @Adûnâi
    > "The difference with the internet, Mr. Adunai, is that one can pick and choose where to get this information from."

    You are severely overestimating the mental faculties of the masses. They bring their prison with them whenever they go. The ideas do not live in TVs and newspapers - they inhabit the very air we breathe. How else do Ukrainians parrot the line of the American propaganda word for word? Because it all stems from Christianity. All our books, our music, our history, our fiction - Christianity has seeped into everything.

    In Ukraine, people talk about turning off the TV when they mean "Putin bad". The line in this thread is effectively the same. A full apostasy would mean quite a lot more - more drastic and extreme.
  235. @Wuok
    I regretted reading this article. It is not worth reading- just complete waste of my time . It lacks clarity and detail. The writer himself is not well-informed about the murder, but that doesn't stop him from blaming the victim. This is what is known as hatred in its purest form. It is the worst and immature article I have ever read on Unz.Review.

    The writer himself…

    Herself. Michelle Malkin.

  236. Was the black boy a taxpayer? If not, nothing happened. Drop all charges.

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    Was the black boy a taxpayer? If not, nothing happened. Drop all charges.
     
    That's valuable information. Redcoats had a similar policy.
  237. Truth says:
    @GazaPlanet
    American whites will not give up our guns and we will not cede our neighborhoods to black "jogger" thieves. And if they try to grab weapons from our hands we will shoot them. Without compunction. The same way you shoot a wild animal, because that is what such behavior resembles. A charging buck is going to be shot every time, whether you try to throw the whites in prison for it or not.

    Of course this isn't about protecting black lives from violence. This is about enabling negroes to terrorize whites the way they do in South Africa. It's not going to happen here.

    Vigilantism is a response to lawlessness. Lawless authorities should expect it.

    American whites will not give up our guns

    Canadian whites will.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-politics-guns-idUSKBN22C3NS

    And if they try to grab weapons from our hands we will shoot them. Without compunction.

    Well then my advice, Old Sport would be to mitigate some of your shootin’ range time, with boxing ring or octagon time, because it is my understanding that they don’t let you have guns in prison.

    Vigilantism is a response to lawlessness

    Right, and prison is a response to vigilantism, and missing teef are a response to prison.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Your "performance" in Afgahnistan and Iraq doesn't intimidate anymore. Some brief vigilantism against the cops and dumb black gubmint employees and than we don't have to worry about your threats.
    , @BenKenobi
    Ok, jogger.
  238. @Agent76
    MARCH 18, 2020 Cops Killed Nearly 13 Times More People Than Mass Shooters

    According to The Washington Post, 1,004 individuals were “shot and killed by police in 2019,” or 12 more than the previous year.

    https://www.criminallegalnews.org/news/2020/mar/18/cops-killed-nearly-13-times-more-people-mass-shooters/

    May 5, 2020 Former Georgia Cop and Son Chase Down Black Jogger and Kill him

    But now that a video has surfaced showing the jogger was the one acting in self defense before he was killed, prosecutors are singing a different tune, saying they will present the case to a grand jury.

    https://youtu.be/5ge6649rSQo

    “The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people.” Martin Luther King, Jr.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    “The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people.” Martin Luther King, Jr.


    "Where dem white bitches at?" Martin Luther King Jr, 15 minutes later.
    , @The Grim Joker
    The word is around you like to milk BBCs !
  239. I didn’t see where the black kid was armed. Just running. He may have just burglarized a place; either way the 2 killers were waiting for him with their guns.
    I hope they’re prosecuted. If they are cleared by a jury, then great. Otherwise, man-up and serve your time. This is why people start demanding an end to gun rights, because of guys like that. Would they have done the same if the guy had been white? We’ll never know.

  240. MrTea says:
    @Truth

    yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help
     
    Well...

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/6/28/4475994/george-zimmerman-training-mma-weeks-before-trayvon-martin-shooting

    So what? He was interested in neighborhood security and it would be normal for someone like that to prep for it. I once worked retail in a rough environment and began wearing steel-toes as a prep measure.

    BTW the entire premise that Trayvon was crying for help is disputed. I remember it well as upon seeing the howlers on the news networks the night the story “broke” I web-surfed to the Sanford Florida municipal website and discovered that the 9-1-1 calls from the incident were online to listen to. (Something I never saw mentioned on the news). Martin’s own father expressed the opinion that it did not sound like his son’s voice but later recanted after hearing what was supposedly an “enhanced” version. The tapes were however played to the jury.

    But no matter. It’s an informative exercise to search for the various renditions of the case, typically selectively edited as is the norm with these cases i.e. Michael Brown in Ferguson MO etc.

    • Replies: @Truth
    He was a 5'9 200+ lb. 29 year old, man who had trained in MMA for over a year, in a confrontation with a 5'11 155 lb., untrained 17 year old.
  241. @Anon
    According to a police report, the man, Gregory McMichael, 64, called out to his son, Travis McMichael, 34. They grabbed their weapons, a .357 magnum revolver and a shotgun, jumped into a truck and began following Mr. Arbery.
    “Stop, stop,” they shouted at Mr. Arbery, “we want to talk to you.”
    Moments later, after a struggle over the shotgun, Mr. Arbery was killed, shot at least twice.


    According to documents obtained by The New York Times, a prosecutor who had the case for a few weeks told the police that the pursuers had acted within the scope of Georgia’s citizen’s arrest statute, and that Travis McMichael, who held the shotgun, had acted out of self-defense.”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/us/ahmed-arbery-shooting-georgia.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article


    The man, Roddie Bryan, lives in the neighborhood. He had shared the video with the police before sharing it with Mr. Tucker and was cooperating with the authorities, his lawyer, Kevin Gough, said in an interview Friday evening.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/us/ahmaud-arbery-video-lawyer.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


    Prosecutor should be charged as well and same goes for the police .

    Doesn’t look like they were following him. They were waiting for him.

  242. MrTea says:
    @Hans
    Thanks for the info on these "geniuses." Had not tracked their activities. One to file.

    https://files.catbox.moe/mtaj13.jpg

    I am reminded of that movie quite often when I peruse the “news”. I was heartened a few years ago when I met some teens who knew of the film and they “got” the idea, as it relates the the nearly “pod people” narrative that is being fed to the public.

  243. @Saggy

    yet we are supposed to believe that poor little Trayvon was screaming like a girl for help
     
    He was yelling help because a gun was pointed at him, imbecile.

    Trayvon was yelling for help? I didn’t know that. I thought he circled around and jumped the afro-hispanic who was following him and started to inflict the “ground-and-pound” style beatdown he was on record as being fond of using in street fights. Then, mid-beating, the afro-hispanic he was brutally beating managed to get his weapon out at drill Trayvon. Trayvon then reportedly said, “You got me.”

    • Agree: Genrick Yagoda
    • Replies: @Thicket
    You mean the afro Hispanic who started some bullshit with him to begin with and thought he was tough. It was manslaughter because of his reckless and arrogant provocation that lead up to the shooting.
  244. @schnellandine

    In that state, they had a legal right to carry a registered firearm, and the legal right to detain someone who is suspected of a crime.
     
    Ah, suspected!

    Well, that's just slop. The GA criteria are tighter than that, and may be inapplicable in this case. There're all sorts of ways to cook those hasty boys, and the dad, at least, should've known it. They're done, even if downgraded to manslaughter or below (e.g. aggravated assault, aiming weapon without cause). All white boys should be taking notes, keeping powder dry, and not rallying behind these hotheaded clowns. Way past the time to act, but this is not the case. Not even close.

    I appreciate your line of reasoning, but care to make a friendly wager? No way to pay out, so it will have to be a gentleman’s bet.

    I’m not going to get into how I feel about what the white guys did–but more importantly, neither of us know the full context behind what any of the players in this grotesque drama did.

    You say, “Ah, suspected! Well, that’s just slop. Georgia criteria are tighter than that.”

    The Georgia criteria are what, exactly?

    What gave the two white men the idea that they had probable cause?

    What, exactly, did the dead man do before he was shot? Did he commit any crimes? Trespassing is a crime. Did he steal anything? What did any other witnesses see him do, if anything?

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? Did the other white man have the right to shoot the black man as the black man was attempting to take the shotgun away?

    I understand that the media and social media mobs will be just as big–if not bigger–factors than the actual letter of the law, but my bet is that the two white men will not be convicted of First Degree Murder. And the official who wrote out his reasons for not pressing charges will not merely fall on his sword.

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    The Georgia criteria are what, exactly?
     
    17-4-60:

    A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
     
    On phone, so didn't look for definitions and context. But that appears to be current, albeit not on its own a model of clarity. I read it as the evidence standard being lowered in case of escape/attempt after felony.

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? Did the other white man have the right to shoot the black man as the black man was attempting to take the shotgun away?
     
    Depends on unknowns. IMO, were Arbery innocent (which I think unlikely), he had plenty of impetus to consider that he was being lethally and unlawfully hunted, especially if, as reported, he'd interacted with camera guy and was aware of a squeeze maneuver. My biggest criticism of the father/son is that they were brandishing. Stupid.

    IMO, were Arbery innocent of what they suspected, he was stupid and lawful in charging the shooter, and they were lawful to then resist.

    but my bet is that the two white men will not be convicted of First Degree Murder.
     
    Won't take bet, since I agree, even with show trial. I think will be whatever variation of manslaughter and lesser charges they can stick to wall, and appeal may be good to them. In any case, their lives are perma-derailed or worse.

    And the official who wrote out his reasons for not pressing charges will not merely fall on his sword.
     
    Maybe, but he screwed up, especially if trying to help them. Show's on now, for many years.
    , @Rurik

    neither of us know the full context behind what any of the players in this grotesque drama did.
     
    I've periodically checked the comments on this article to see if there's been any new information either way.

    It looks to me like the black dude, for some reason attacked the younger guy holding the shotgun. Then the dad plugged him.

    Why did he attack?

    If he attacked for no good reason, like it looks like in the video, then I figure he got what was coming to him. You shouldn't go around randomly attacking folks, especially if they're armed.

    But if the white guy did something, like tell the black dude to 'drop to your knees!', then I figure the black dude had a right to beat the shit out of him. You don't go around shouting things or trying to intimidate people who're minding their own business.

    But from the video, all of that is speculation. Until we know more, it's all speculation.
    , @Thicket
    I read the local DA letter that attempted to justify the murder and it is typical shyster gloss-over, which your comment touches on with the word "trespassing". Prowling or trespassing an empty place outside might be a MISDEMEANOR, but it is not a felony at all. In fact entering an unoccupied structure is also a MISDEMEANOR. To make a qualified lawful arrest on a misdemeanor it would have to be caught in the act, not chasing someone down with "stop I want to talk to you".

    Nobody has a "right" to make arrests, the law just recognizes the common justifications for making a citizens arrest in pursuit of a COMMON LAW FELONY, which is not merely a "suspicion" of prowling. There was no probable cause for anyone to detain the murder victim, and that's why they ate now arrested themselves on charges of "felony murder".

  245. @the shadow
    Just to make it clear. Some racist goon stopping me on the street has nio expectation that I have any obligatioin to be compliant with whatever demands he makes., Indeed, merely making sucvh demands when he has not authrotu to expet comliance is in itself a villation of any citizen's civil rights. SO IT'S THE PERSON MAKING THAT DEMAND AND SEEKING TO ENFORCE IT WHO IS THE AGRRESSOR, AND HIS VICTIM HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST SUCH EFFRONTERY.

    Shut up, jogger.

  246. @Avery
    The several comments blaming the victim (in a roundabout way), and basically absolving the killers have no foundation:

    1. The two white guys chased this unarmed black man in their truck, fully armed and brandishing weapons.

    2. What kind of "Stand your ground" law can possibly apply here? The man was not on their property; he was jogging _away_. They chased him, cornered him and then shot him.

    3. Even IF Ahmaud looked into some vacant house ("burglary" ? !), there is no law that gives a civilian the right to leave his own house, chase the person, and confront him. You can't claim your life is in danger, and shoot someone, if you left your own property, and went after the person - who had had no contact with you up to that point.

    4. That's what the police are for: 'suspicious person','possible burglary', etc. Call and stay in your house, with a loaded gun, in case it is a dangerous guy and he somehow ends up in your house..... while being chased by cops......

    5. You are on your own property, someone enters it without permission, threatens you or something - blast away. But chasing after someone who you _think_ may have committed burglary at some vacant house?

    “They chased him, cornered him and then shot him.”

    Evidently you are unaware that there is a video of the incident. It clearly shows that they did not corner him and shoot him, but that he was killed after a violent tussle. If they had wanted to kill him they would have done so before he physically engaged one of them. The fact that he was not shot at the instant when he approached the man with the gun shows that there was never any intention to kill. He held off using his weapon, as did the other man.

    The father was apparently a retired police officer! Did he not know, with his training and experience, that it is extremely negligent and dangerous to threaten people with guns in this manner. What an incompetent fool he must be to engineer this mess. What a pair of dimwits are both father and son.

  247. @450.org
    The McMichael's lied. The video contradicts their testimony to the prosecutor. They hunted him down and created a gauntlet. The guy taking the video no doubt was part of it bringing up the rear in case the black male jogger turned his way away from the gauntlet. The camera gets diverted momentarily because he's loading a clip. If anyone was acting in self-defense, it was Arbery, not the McMichael's. The fact the McMichael's lied is proof of their guilt. If you're not guilty, there's no need to lie. The McMichael's stalked Arbery. They hunted him down. Without cause and no, the citizen's arrest law if you read it and understand it does not apply here. The McMichael's provided the context for everything that went down. They provoked the situation. Arbery had every right to defend himself. He had every reason to believe his life was in danger and he had every right to try to defend himself which he did because he was acting in self-defense in a situation he did nothing to provoke. You can be sure if the tables were turned, and these were two back guys in place of the McMichael's and it was a white male jogger the commentators here absurdly defending the McMichael's would be calling for the death penalty for the black murderers. As for me, I'd have the same opinion of this I have now. The color of anyone's skin has nothing to do with it. Justice is blind, or it should be.

    Well said.

    The two factors here behind the promotion of the killers and smearing of the victim are bigotry and far right, likud style zionazi-gay divisive psywar.

    The bigots are ecstatic whites killed a black, they’d love to kill one themselves, but lack the initiative, support network or balls. To them it’s one less of “them”. These are basically very insecure individuals about their own worth who need somebody defenseless to beat on.

    The psywar wonks are a bit more complicated. One of the ways oligarchy in the usa was maintained was through keeping the population divided and at each others throats. This keeps them too occupied to take on massa. Part of that divisiveness psywar is about race and ethnic culture.

    In the last few decades the israeli far right, likud and co., has essentially taken over this race divisive psywar in the usa and increasingly around the world. The racist views posted here about blacks mimic the views of netanyahoo almost word for word. The old time zombiefied pindo bigot has now been subsidized by zionazia, inc. IE: scratch a white supremacist/nazi wannabee and you find a zionazi-gay propagandist or zombiefied dupe underneath.

    Why would israel want to promote racial divide in the usa? Because the usa is now an israeli colony and it is in zionazi-gay interests to keep americans stupid, divided and fighting each other, rather than letting them see who is really buggering their collective arses.

  248. @gotmituns
    Was the black boy a taxpayer? If not, nothing happened. Drop all charges.

    Was the black boy a taxpayer? If not, nothing happened. Drop all charges.

    That’s valuable information. Redcoats had a similar policy.

  249. @Ghali
    It is disappointing and shameful on UNZ to publish this kind of racism, by someone who is a well-known racist and an illiterate.

    Are you calling Michelle Malkin a racist and illiterate? I would recommend her book “Sold Out” as an antidote. Doubt the increasingly leftist C-Span BookTV editors will allow it on despite it being extremely relevant to the current labor market, especially in light of record unemployment. You want to see a real racist, and a publicly subsidized one at that:

    https://www.amren.com/news/2019/05/nyc-schools-chancellor-is-accused-of-pushing-out-white-administrators-in-favor-of-less-qualified-non-whites/
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/19/reporters-press-presidential-candidate-bill-de-blasio-toxic-whiteness/

  250. Anonymous[432] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    American whites will not give up our guns
     
    Canadian whites will.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-politics-guns-idUSKBN22C3NS

    And if they try to grab weapons from our hands we will shoot them. Without compunction.
     
    Well then my advice, Old Sport would be to mitigate some of your shootin' range time, with boxing ring or octagon time, because it is my understanding that they don't let you have guns in prison.

    Vigilantism is a response to lawlessness

     

    Right, and prison is a response to vigilantism, and missing teef are a response to prison.

    Your “performance” in Afgahnistan and Iraq doesn’t intimidate anymore. Some brief vigilantism against the cops and dumb black gubmint employees and than we don’t have to worry about your threats.

  251. @Tulip
    Whereby Ned Beatty's squeals become magically transmuted into the sounds of a Gregorian Chant for the Unz Crowd.

    Do you have a point? Or are you just a pro-grade asshole? Go to MediaMatters where you can commiserate with your fellows.

    I browse this site because it is one of a very few that dare to confront reality, by way of factual material scrupulously erased by the corporate brainwashing system maintained by the media corporations. Like this currently relevant items

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/his-name-is-logan-allen-stacks-in-deep-south-two-black-males-murder-17-year-old-white-teenager/#comment-3861238

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/his-name-is-antonio-angel-santiago-as-nation-deifies-ahmaud-aubrey-we-remember-th

    This site also has significant historical research some of it appearing nowhere else. I cite for instance Mr. Unz scholarship regarding the true story of the disposition of the assets seized from the interned Japanese-Americans.

    • Agree: Craig Nelsen
  252. @Father O'Hara
    Screw you,amigo.

    “Screw you,amigo.”

    No chance of that, alter boi. Happy to disappoint you. Don your kneepads and go see your priest. 😀

    • LOL: Grahamsno(G64)
    • Troll: Genrick Yagoda
  253. Sean says:

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him?

    Given that he persisted after being shot in the hand, Ahmaud was forcing the man to shoot him dead. Crazy, but there are many such people in the real world, and though not around to see it, they get their revenge. You point a gun at an unarmed black it is his problem, if he comes at you then you are the one with the problem. The elder McMichael should have foreseen that. Shotgun and a truck, they might as well have worn overalls. Didn’t they ever see Easy Rider?

  254. @Really No Shit
    Don't judge them by the color of their skin but by the contents of their characters ...

    OK, butt bandit.

    They are white trash.

    White trash in pindoland isn’t really racial, but cultural. It’s a clamoring to reach the bottom of moral decay before anyone else does. It’s about being pissed on and loving it because it came from some one more wealthy. It’s being a foot soldier in one’s own exploitation and thinking one is some sort independent thinker. It’s ultimately about conformity and kissing arse, while thinking one is exceptional, superior, the master race for doing so.

    Got it, shlomo.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
    We get it, too, Moishe.

    How many JDF trolls are on this site at one time, pray tell?
    , @Really No Shit
    A schlemiel telling a schlimazel...
  255. @Johnny Smoggins
    If I had to guess, I'd say Ms. Malkin is used to Breitbart and Fox News types who eat the shit up, but are as incapable of critical thinking as CNN viewers or NYT readers.

    The sources you cite just spent years whipping up an hysteria about “collusion” with Russia that did not exist. See the newly-released transcripts with the testimony of Clapper et al. The “types” you refer to knew this all along by way of the factual research done by writers like John Solomon and the truth-seekers at Judicial Watch.

    CNN is a joke and the NY Times had been stinking with corruption since the days when their boy Duranty fronted for Stalin while he murdered millions in Ukraine. The media corruption is pervasive and a matter of public record

    http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

    though this has never been acknowledge by any corporate news instrument. Or any of the hackademic whores who fawn and front for them. I suppose you believe in the Warren Commission too? (Like Saint Chomsky!)

    Watergate.com has some interesting historical revision to offer. Also the recently-published and as expected, ignored “Postgate” https://www.postgatebook.com/
    authored by the lawyer who repped for “Deep Throat” himself.

    • Replies: @Hans
    In 1906, the Jewish Ochs family buys The New York Times. British politician, Sir Cecil Spring-Rice states, "One by one, the Jews are capturing the principal newspapers of America” (Letter Nov 1914, to Sir Edward Grey, Letters and Friendships). What a "Nazi"!!!
  256. @JimDandy
    I appreciate your line of reasoning, but care to make a friendly wager? No way to pay out, so it will have to be a gentleman's bet.

    I'm not going to get into how I feel about what the white guys did--but more importantly, neither of us know the full context behind what any of the players in this grotesque drama did.

    You say, "Ah, suspected! Well, that's just slop. Georgia criteria are tighter than that."

    The Georgia criteria are what, exactly?

    What gave the two white men the idea that they had probable cause?

    What, exactly, did the dead man do before he was shot? Did he commit any crimes? Trespassing is a crime. Did he steal anything? What did any other witnesses see him do, if anything?

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? Did the other white man have the right to shoot the black man as the black man was attempting to take the shotgun away?

    I understand that the media and social media mobs will be just as big--if not bigger--factors than the actual letter of the law, but my bet is that the two white men will not be convicted of First Degree Murder. And the official who wrote out his reasons for not pressing charges will not merely fall on his sword.

    The Georgia criteria are what, exactly?

    17-4-60:

    A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

    On phone, so didn’t look for definitions and context. But that appears to be current, albeit not on its own a model of clarity. I read it as the evidence standard being lowered in case of escape/attempt after felony.

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? Did the other white man have the right to shoot the black man as the black man was attempting to take the shotgun away?

    Depends on unknowns. IMO, were Arbery innocent (which I think unlikely), he had plenty of impetus to consider that he was being lethally and unlawfully hunted, especially if, as reported, he’d interacted with camera guy and was aware of a squeeze maneuver. My biggest criticism of the father/son is that they were brandishing. Stupid.

    IMO, were Arbery innocent of what they suspected, he was stupid and lawful in charging the shooter, and they were lawful to then resist.

    but my bet is that the two white men will not be convicted of First Degree Murder.

    Won’t take bet, since I agree, even with show trial. I think will be whatever variation of manslaughter and lesser charges they can stick to wall, and appeal may be good to them. In any case, their lives are perma-derailed or worse.

    And the official who wrote out his reasons for not pressing charges will not merely fall on his sword.

    Maybe, but he screwed up, especially if trying to help them. Show’s on now, for many years.

    • Replies: @Sean

    IMO, were Arbery innocent of what they suspected, he was stupid and lawful in charging the shooter, and they were lawful to then resist.
     
    All rather academic. What is more to the point for a court will be whether the McMichaels had a reasonable expectation of the shotgun being a means to effect a peaceful non violent citizen's arrest by the time of the second confrontation, by which time they must have a good idea he was not going to pull a gun on them, or surender just because they had guns.

    My biggest criticism of the father/son is that they were brandishing
     
    Lacking the authority of a uniform and badge, they were going to have to brandish their firearms to arrest him, which might have been fine, but he was crazy. If one takes the circumstances of the trigger being pulled twice (first time a non lethal wound to the hand) by the younger McMichael then he was justified beyond any question. The context of how this arose puts the McMichaels in a less flattering light.

    They will get a not guilty, but the process will amount to a public admonishing of the McMichaels for persisting in harrying Arbery after it was clear he was not going to stop. The driver in the following truck certainly seems to have began to have second thoughts after the first confrontation and dawdled realising that he was well out of it. McMichael should not have left his firearm in an unlocked vehicle to be stolen in the first place. Insouciance followed by overeaction without regard to the consequences.
    , @By-tor
    Holding a weapon and having the muzzle pointed down, finger off of the trigger is not brandishing. That is what folks protesting with their AR's on their person at recent rallies in MI, TX and last fall in VA were doing in their state capitals, and they were not arrested.
  257. @Kyle Kiernan
    "cornered him"

    Point to the "corner". Where are the obstacles that prevented him from continuing. The Walls. The barricades. Anything.

    White guy left of truck. Black guy right of truck.

    Nothing in front of them to stop him.

    Black guy crosses from right to left and attacks.

    The "corner" is in the black guys head that these white guys have the insolence to mess with his big ol heavy boots jog.

    I agree to the extent the Black man could have gotten away if he really wanted to. Or at least he could have avoided getting shot. On the other hand, if you watch the video frame by frame you can see the White guy crosses the center line of the highway to met the Black man tries to run around the truck.

    I’m pretty sure they got the right thug, and this guy was a waste of space. That said you can’t chase someone down with a gun and corner them.

  258. https://www.unz.com/author/paul-kersey/

    Story after story of orcs murdering Whites and not a peep from (((fake news.)))

    Where’s their justice? Outside of this website and local affiliates who quietly bury these stories, who speaks for these victims?

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    Kersey documents the black on white slaughter.

    Colin Flaherty documents the black on white slaughter.

    90% of cross-racial crime is black on white.

    There is very little white on black crime of any kind, and there is virtually no white
    on black rape.

    There's quite a lot of black on white rape though.

    The small hat media lies about everything, so expect them to lie about this incident as well.

    The goal of the Jmedia is to incite hatred against whites and to incite blacks to harm whites.
  259. @Two Ten
    Just out for a jog, 12 miles from home, wearing denim shorts and unlaced boots. That's a hell of a way to run a marathon.

    Agree, but can you tell me where you read he was 12 miles from home? I saw this on one news report, but it seems to have been memory holed.

    It would be helpful if everyone knew this information.

  260. “Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? ”

    Laughing.

    I have have to admit that it is amusing the arguments never change —

    impulsive black men by nature attack whites with guns . . .

    too funny

    Black guy jogging sees man with shotgun and goes wild

  261. @Trickster
    Great research Realist, very thorough. I plan to look at the videos tonight with a bowl of ice cream, chocolate flavour. Ahmaud was clearly a ne'er do well and his family are certainly no God fearing, church going, righteous Christians. The people in his area probably got quite fed up with him and solved the problem.

    As you pointed out if Father and Son are exonerated it will be chimp time as they torch their own area and other black businesses resulting in them having to travel one hour for a bag of milk.

    Once again this is a clear caution to whites to stay away from blacks, black area and black events. Also stay away from whites who think it is cool to associate with blacks. It may well cost you your life and that of your loved ones. These people are pure poison and nothing but trouble. even their own kind move out of the Hood and into a white area first chance they get.

    Also stay away from whites who think it is cool to associate with blacks.

    …or act black…or worship blacks…or marry blacks.

    • Agree: schnellandine
  262. Whereas this story from Georgia is “wall-t0-wall” news and commentary now….I didn’t even know about this other item until I saw it referenced in the comments below

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/chicago-cops-shoot-unarmed-man-during-subway-confrontation/

    Perhaps related to the matter–also apparently not reported anywhere else–about the 13-month-old white child in a stroller murdered by a 2 blacks

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/his-name-is-antonio-angel-santiago-as-nation-deifies-ahmaud-aubrey-we-remember-the-13-month-old-white-baby-murdered-in-his-stroller-by-two-black-males-in-brunswick-georgia-in-2013/

    I mean it’s in the same town.

  263. @Anonymous
    Relying on "proper authority" is why White America is in the situation that it is. If we had 1 million Dylan Roofs negros wouldn't exist in this country.

    LOL, hey if we had a million Dylan Klebolds, neither would whites…

    • Replies: @Cowtown Rebel
    Dylan Klebold was Jewish. George Zimmerman is half Jewish and half Hispanic, and so is Nikolas Cruz.

    We don't have a million Dylan Roofs, but we certainly have millions of Negroes running amok, raping, robbing and murdering, and then burning down entire city blocks when someone (the police) tries to put a stop to their lunacy. With the Atlanta Police refusing to prosecute shoplifters, vandals and thieves, how far behind are other municipalities? Who can honest people trust to defend them? If this case serves as an example, then residents aren't even permitted to protect their neighborhoods and Citizen Crime Watches are in jeopardy everywhere.

    The Police should refuse to respond to any calls in a majority Black area, and that's the Truth.
  264. @Robert Dolan
    Low IQ.

    High testosterone.

    No impulse control.

    IKR, they need to stop going to those monster truck rallies and demoltion derbies.

    • Replies: @Big Al
    No one ever seems to get shot at those events.
  265. @prime noticer
    the main reason to doubt the official story is that africans don't jog. track and road runner for 30 years here, can count on my fingers the number of other joggers i've passed that were africans. bantu descended africans in the US basically don't run anything over the 800 meters in track & field.

    also a metal head for over 30 years. there are more africans at metal concerts than african joggers. i have posted on Unz before that in some states, maybe as many as 2% of the people at a big show are african. there's even some metal bands with african guys in them. but pretty much no 5000 meter runners in the states are west africans.

    think about that next time they tell you this guy was a jogger. there are more africans at heavy metal concerts than africans who are joggers.

    the main reason to doubt the official story is that africans don’t jog.

    Open and shut Bro! I hope the prosecuting attorney reads this. He can just use it as his opening remark and rest his case.

  266. @Kyle Kiernan
    "cornered him"

    Point to the "corner". Where are the obstacles that prevented him from continuing. The Walls. The barricades. Anything.

    White guy left of truck. Black guy right of truck.

    Nothing in front of them to stop him.

    Black guy crosses from right to left and attacks.

    The "corner" is in the black guys head that these white guys have the insolence to mess with his big ol heavy boots jog.

    Read my entire post:

    The white guys left the safety of their house, armed themselves, got into their truck and chased after him.

    Chased after him.

    The dad allegedly told the son: “I think it’s him….” (….some black guy who had supposedly burglarized a house or something months ago…)

    By what logic do you justify two guys arming themselves, leaving the safety of their house, chasing him in a truck, catching up with him – and cornering him: what else do you call a couple of civilians pointing guns at you. One of them pointing a shotgun at you.

    An alleged ‘burglary’ suspect?

    • Replies: @map
    Wow.

    Are you stupid.

    The father and son are not allowed to go out of their home, on to a public street, with their legally owned and carried guns, because there is a black out and about.

    The video clearly shows the black attacking the man with a gun. He got shot for his trouble.

    End of story.
    , @V. Hickel
    where was this "corner" exactly that they had him in slick? Did you watch video?
    , @Genrick Yagoda
    Travis was pointing his gun at the ground when he was attacked. And no one "cornered" the criminal.

    Your post is consistent with the entire narrative around this case. A pack of lies in an effort to to gin up anti-white hatred.
  267. Why is this zio-propagandist Malkin still in the US? She should move shitrael.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Maybe she'll beat feet right after you go back to Africa.
  268. @JimDandy
    I appreciate your line of reasoning, but care to make a friendly wager? No way to pay out, so it will have to be a gentleman's bet.

    I'm not going to get into how I feel about what the white guys did--but more importantly, neither of us know the full context behind what any of the players in this grotesque drama did.

    You say, "Ah, suspected! Well, that's just slop. Georgia criteria are tighter than that."

    The Georgia criteria are what, exactly?

    What gave the two white men the idea that they had probable cause?

    What, exactly, did the dead man do before he was shot? Did he commit any crimes? Trespassing is a crime. Did he steal anything? What did any other witnesses see him do, if anything?

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? Did the other white man have the right to shoot the black man as the black man was attempting to take the shotgun away?

    I understand that the media and social media mobs will be just as big--if not bigger--factors than the actual letter of the law, but my bet is that the two white men will not be convicted of First Degree Murder. And the official who wrote out his reasons for not pressing charges will not merely fall on his sword.

    neither of us know the full context behind what any of the players in this grotesque drama did.

    I’ve periodically checked the comments on this article to see if there’s been any new information either way.

    It looks to me like the black dude, for some reason attacked the younger guy holding the shotgun. Then the dad plugged him.

    Why did he attack?

    If he attacked for no good reason, like it looks like in the video, then I figure he got what was coming to him. You shouldn’t go around randomly attacking folks, especially if they’re armed.

    But if the white guy did something, like tell the black dude to ‘drop to your knees!’, then I figure the black dude had a right to beat the shit out of him. You don’t go around shouting things or trying to intimidate people who’re minding their own business.

    But from the video, all of that is speculation. Until we know more, it’s all speculation.

    • Replies: @anon
    Watch the vid at the 00:17 mark. https://twitter.com/i/status/1257700960618643459 Arbery runs thru the bend and sees the pickup ahead. He has discarded the hammer on the road. The car following him sees that, the assumption may then be that Arbery no longer poses a threat.
    Have a think about that. He keeps running forward, goes around the pickup, then does a sharp left turn and goes straight for the shotgun. Then the vid loses the image because the driver is loading his weapon.
    Arbery had no reason to do that, he could have just kept on running and the other 2 couldn't have done a thing.
    The bloke was just irrational, like Emmett Till Jr.
    No way he was ever going to make old bones.
  269. @schnellandine

    and this is the root of white privileges which is really white arrogance. And i say this as white man myself
     
    Uh, no. You're no man, and likely not white.

    The UR community welcomes you, however, in celebration of your first comment at the joint, my fellow white. Still, as your sisters in the movement never tire of sanctimonifying, "Do better."

    Never thought I'd say that. Must puke now.

    You sound like a faggot

    • Replies: @RodW
    I think she’s a girl. She obviously thinks like one.
  270. @prime noticer
    the main reason to doubt the official story is that africans don't jog. track and road runner for 30 years here, can count on my fingers the number of other joggers i've passed that were africans. bantu descended africans in the US basically don't run anything over the 800 meters in track & field.

    also a metal head for over 30 years. there are more africans at metal concerts than african joggers. i have posted on Unz before that in some states, maybe as many as 2% of the people at a big show are african. there's even some metal bands with african guys in them. but pretty much no 5000 meter runners in the states are west africans.

    think about that next time they tell you this guy was a jogger. there are more africans at heavy metal concerts than africans who are joggers.

    Track, road, and off-road runner for 40+ years, here, and my initial thought, too, about the victim: WTF? A black jogger? Maybe he was hang-gliding.

  271. The guy’s a criminal. He charged em. Forget it. The guy’s a burglar. And a long time criminal. Forget him.

  272. @JimDandy
    I appreciate your line of reasoning, but care to make a friendly wager? No way to pay out, so it will have to be a gentleman's bet.

    I'm not going to get into how I feel about what the white guys did--but more importantly, neither of us know the full context behind what any of the players in this grotesque drama did.

    You say, "Ah, suspected! Well, that's just slop. Georgia criteria are tighter than that."

    The Georgia criteria are what, exactly?

    What gave the two white men the idea that they had probable cause?

    What, exactly, did the dead man do before he was shot? Did he commit any crimes? Trespassing is a crime. Did he steal anything? What did any other witnesses see him do, if anything?

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? Did the other white man have the right to shoot the black man as the black man was attempting to take the shotgun away?

    I understand that the media and social media mobs will be just as big--if not bigger--factors than the actual letter of the law, but my bet is that the two white men will not be convicted of First Degree Murder. And the official who wrote out his reasons for not pressing charges will not merely fall on his sword.

    I read the local DA letter that attempted to justify the murder and it is typical shyster gloss-over, which your comment touches on with the word “trespassing”. Prowling or trespassing an empty place outside might be a MISDEMEANOR, but it is not a felony at all. In fact entering an unoccupied structure is also a MISDEMEANOR. To make a qualified lawful arrest on a misdemeanor it would have to be caught in the act, not chasing someone down with “stop I want to talk to you”.

    Nobody has a “right” to make arrests, the law just recognizes the common justifications for making a citizens arrest in pursuit of a COMMON LAW FELONY, which is not merely a “suspicion” of prowling. There was no probable cause for anyone to detain the murder victim, and that’s why they ate now arrested themselves on charges of “felony murder”.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    I'm not sure--did they make an "arrest"? Did they "detain" anyone? Or did they say, "Hey, we want to talk to you?" or something like that?

    Let me know.
  273. @JimDandy
    Trayvon was yelling for help? I didn't know that. I thought he circled around and jumped the afro-hispanic who was following him and started to inflict the "ground-and-pound" style beatdown he was on record as being fond of using in street fights. Then, mid-beating, the afro-hispanic he was brutally beating managed to get his weapon out at drill Trayvon. Trayvon then reportedly said, "You got me."

    You mean the afro Hispanic who started some bullshit with him to begin with and thought he was tough. It was manslaughter because of his reckless and arrogant provocation that lead up to the shooting.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    Well, credit where credit is due--he recognized a thief-vandal-violent-assaulter-drug-abuser skulking around in the dark in a nice neighborhood that had seen a lot of break-ins when he saw one. When it comes to accurate profiling, the afro-hispanic gets an A+.
  274. @Anonymous
    This is not George Zimmerman redux.
    (Zimmerman got attacked and acted to save his life.)
    It makes no difference if the black dude was KNOWN to be just previously engaged in property crimes. (And there hardly seems to be clear evidence supporting that....)
    These FUCKING MORONS, by their OWN TESTIMONY, confronted him in a hostile manner while displaying a gun.
    He RIGHTLY aimed to seize the gun. If an unknown person accosts you while brandishing a firearm, don't pause to reflect on your own moral state... AIM TO GET THE GUN!
    It does seem that this is not murder but rather homicide or manslaughter (and I do hope that justice prevails against the race hustlers), but this "father" is a jackass who has inflicted considerable harm on his son. But his son is a pussy for listening to a jackass father.
    They both deserve hard time, even if the black dude was a criminal.
    That's what the facts suggest to me. Michelle Malkin sometimes calls it, but not this time.
    A genuinely stupid article. Race hustlers can get it right for the wrong reasons. DUH.

    You are an idiot.

    If you have to RUN at your gun-toting rival, you are in no position to disarm and will likely be killed. Which is exactly what happened.

    If you thought you were going to be shot and not in a position to disarm, you would take cover, say, behind a large truck.

    If you thought two individuals were now taking aim and you are in no position to disarm either, you must RUN AND TAKE COVER as though you were truly being hunted.

    If, on the other hand, you think that these guys are just some rednecks that caught you peeking in a house while you were really just jogging and wanted to stop you and ask you what’s going on with gun-toting in Georgia being as normal as gang-banging in Atlanta then you just a) run off through the country side or b) just wait and show these rednecks up in front of the cops by making a big stink of their “racism” and intimidation with civil judgement dancing in the back of your mind.

    But as the DA said, this kid wasn’t of right mind.

  275. @mark green
    Thanx for the photo. Revealing. Watch the MSM attempt to ignore pertinent background info about 'jogger' Ahmaud Arbery. Omissions of this kind are routine and orchestrated. It's reminiscent of how the MSM characterized career criminal, Rodney King, as an innocent (black) 'motorist' before the LA race riots ensued. The toxic, anti-white narrative continues.

    This latest incident is actually notable for one thing: white-on-black crime remains relatively rare compared to the reverse: black-on-white violence. But watch the (((MSM))) ignore that persistent fact.

    Here's a recent incident of abhorrent criminality that didn't rock the journalistic world (or stir national 'outrage'). Why? It doesn't comport with the anti-white agenda.

    https://news.yahoo.com/father-throws-one-old-daughter-144853088.html

    Omissions of this kind are routine and orchestrated. It’s reminiscent of how the MSM characterized career criminal, Rodney King, as an innocent (black) ‘motorist’ before the LA race riots ensued. The toxic, anti-white narrative continues.

    Yep. Trayvon martin – little 14 y/o kid (see picture) out for some tea and skittles. Mr. Brown in Ferguson, just out for a stroll to the 711 and Rodney King ‘Motorist’. Now we have Mr. Arbery “out for a jog”.

    We’ll have to wait for the facts. Right now the MSM and their Conservative allies are in full hysterical “lynch ’em they’re white” mode.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You don't have to wait for the facts if you kill the people who make up the media. It really is that simple. Discourse is a waste of time and a rigged game. Kill 'em and takeover the airwaves.
  276. @Wuok
    I regretted reading this article. It is not worth reading- just complete waste of my time . It lacks clarity and detail. The writer himself is not well-informed about the murder, but that doesn't stop him from blaming the victim. This is what is known as hatred in its purest form. It is the worst and immature article I have ever read on Unz.Review.

    The headline was clear and the article was thorough.

    IF these three messengers are involved THEN their MESSAGE IS A LIE.

    And, of course, we have video proof of their lying message.

    Whatever happened to Arbery, “it” was NOT murder.

    And the IDEA that it was murder is nothing more than embracing the nigger point of view AND has NOTHING to do with what it true.

    So these messengers don’t just lie, they “blood libel” while claiming to be “hunted” down.

    And they won’t perceive the coherent connection for their lesser negroes.

  277. @EliteCommInc.
    ""So, citizen’s arrest with probably cause is not legal in Georgia?"


    Laugh.

    I hate to break the news to you ----


    jogging, walking, even acting in a suspicious manner is not a crime. Though we have as a condition made that the case for no small number of blacks -- know that some number of the same are going to stand and say no. Even if on its face it makes no sense to take someone on with a weapon ----


    If you enact a citizen's arrest, there had better be a crime in place or a warrant for that individual . .


    They assumed because they had weapons, the person would comply ---- he was under no obligation to do so -- bb gun, shotgun, water pistol or M1 tank at the ready withstanding. The age of whiteness alone having any authority is long past overdue for retirement.

    Sure…

    But the video DOES NOT ACTUALLY SHOW Arbery being “stopped,” “detained,” “refrained,” nor making any physical contact UNTIL that contact initiated by Arbery.

  278. @Truth

    American whites will not give up our guns
     
    Canadian whites will.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-politics-guns-idUSKBN22C3NS

    And if they try to grab weapons from our hands we will shoot them. Without compunction.
     
    Well then my advice, Old Sport would be to mitigate some of your shootin' range time, with boxing ring or octagon time, because it is my understanding that they don't let you have guns in prison.

    Vigilantism is a response to lawlessness

     

    Right, and prison is a response to vigilantism, and missing teef are a response to prison.

    Ok, jogger.

  279. @MrBoompi
    Even if the black guy had committed burglary, two armed rednecks rolling up to kidnap him wasn't a smart move. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, the shooter is guilty of manslaughter and attempted kidnapping, the dad for armed criminal action and attempted kidnapping. This is the difference between having a badge and not having one. A "citizen's arrest" excuse ain't gonna fly.

    LOL. Black burglars should cruise at will while everyone in the neighborhood cowers, peeping through the blinds.

    • Agree: GazaPlanet
  280. Just a whitey smokey donkey.ignore the whole thing.political games

    First trump with tyson

    https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/when-mike-tyson-hired-donald-trump-as-his-adviser-1287741-2018-07-17

    Then these 2 whitey’s playing cops and robbers and shooting Mr arbery

    Video from February released one week after don and mike.

    Anyone remember Buffalo Springfield.

    The question is.will the 2020 elections be a civilized affair or are the chimps on both sides “be chimping” as they say on 4chan.

  281. @By-tor
    The black 'jogger' ran towards the older man and grabbed the man's shot gun ( which was pointed down at the ground ) making the 'jogger' aggressor. The video clearly shows that.

    There’s a thing called the “fight or flight instinct”, Bro. It’s a continum from one to the other. Some of us instinctively favor one or the other, by varying degrees.

    The reason this is unfamiliar to you is that you are, genetically, 100% predisposed to the latter, and had to look the former up.

    • Replies: @NobodyKnowsImaDog
    That doesn't in any way contradict what he said, if anything it reinforces it. The law says you are not supposed to randomly assault people. If you do, they can shoot you. You can praise this guy's fight instinct all you want, but it doesn't change the facts of the matter.
  282. @MrTea
    So what? He was interested in neighborhood security and it would be normal for someone like that to prep for it. I once worked retail in a rough environment and began wearing steel-toes as a prep measure.

    BTW the entire premise that Trayvon was crying for help is disputed. I remember it well as upon seeing the howlers on the news networks the night the story "broke" I web-surfed to the Sanford Florida municipal website and discovered that the 9-1-1 calls from the incident were online to listen to. (Something I never saw mentioned on the news). Martin's own father expressed the opinion that it did not sound like his son's voice but later recanted after hearing what was supposedly an "enhanced" version. The tapes were however played to the jury.

    But no matter. It's an informative exercise to search for the various renditions of the case, typically selectively edited as is the norm with these cases i.e. Michael Brown in Ferguson MO etc.

    He was a 5’9 200+ lb. 29 year old, man who had trained in MMA for over a year, in a confrontation with a 5’11 155 lb., untrained 17 year old.

  283. @vot tak
    OK, butt bandit.

    They are white trash.

    White trash in pindoland isn't really racial, but cultural. It's a clamoring to reach the bottom of moral decay before anyone else does. It's about being pissed on and loving it because it came from some one more wealthy. It's being a foot soldier in one's own exploitation and thinking one is some sort independent thinker. It's ultimately about conformity and kissing arse, while thinking one is exceptional, superior, the master race for doing so.

    Got it, shlomo.

    We get it, too, Moishe.

    How many JDF trolls are on this site at one time, pray tell?

    • Replies: @vot tak
    You tell me, shlomo.
  284. @Thicket
    You mean the afro Hispanic who started some bullshit with him to begin with and thought he was tough. It was manslaughter because of his reckless and arrogant provocation that lead up to the shooting.

    Well, credit where credit is due–he recognized a thief-vandal-violent-assaulter-drug-abuser skulking around in the dark in a nice neighborhood that had seen a lot of break-ins when he saw one. When it comes to accurate profiling, the afro-hispanic gets an A+.

  285. Anonymous[432] • Disclaimer says:
    @homahr
    Why is this zio-propagandist Malkin still in the US? She should move shitrael.

    Maybe she’ll beat feet right after you go back to Africa.

  286. Anonymous[432] • Disclaimer says:
    @Honesthughgrant

    Omissions of this kind are routine and orchestrated. It’s reminiscent of how the MSM characterized career criminal, Rodney King, as an innocent (black) ‘motorist’ before the LA race riots ensued. The toxic, anti-white narrative continues.
     
    Yep. Trayvon martin - little 14 y/o kid (see picture) out for some tea and skittles. Mr. Brown in Ferguson, just out for a stroll to the 711 and Rodney King 'Motorist'. Now we have Mr. Arbery "out for a jog".

    We'll have to wait for the facts. Right now the MSM and their Conservative allies are in full hysterical "lynch 'em they're white" mode.

    You don’t have to wait for the facts if you kill the people who make up the media. It really is that simple. Discourse is a waste of time and a rigged game. Kill ’em and takeover the airwaves.

  287. @Sick of Orcs
    https://www.unz.com/author/paul-kersey/

    Story after story of orcs murdering Whites and not a peep from (((fake news.)))

    Where's their justice? Outside of this website and local affiliates who quietly bury these stories, who speaks for these victims?

    Kersey documents the black on white slaughter.

    Colin Flaherty documents the black on white slaughter.

    90% of cross-racial crime is black on white.

    There is very little white on black crime of any kind, and there is virtually no white
    on black rape.

    There’s quite a lot of black on white rape though.

    The small hat media lies about everything, so expect them to lie about this incident as well.

    The goal of the Jmedia is to incite hatred against whites and to incite blacks to harm whites.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  288. @jsigur
    You had me till you started making blanket statements about "what all Negroes do" something that immediately defines you as a race hater and will undermine the rest of your likely fair points. Once defined as a white supremacist (which has been made equivalent to race-hater) 90% of the public will ignore anything you say, fairly or not.
    It's been a losing habit for years now, this defamation habit we got; yes, I know whites are defamed but that is with deep state support (for it has an anti-white agenda) which then fools the public into believing the blasphemy; without that support, our unkind words become signs that we are Nazis and holocaust deniers, both topics not allowed for discussion in the MSM and thus we lose, end of conversation

    Don’t be so defeatist. When we see how many other people think as we do, we take encouragement from that and resolve not to be cowed into silence any more. Try it for yourself.

    • Agree: Cowtown Rebel
    • Replies: @jsigur
    In private all white forums, you throw out your insults to other races and beliefs.In public forums you discuss nothing that the enemy can use to weaken you. Of course that's where the White Race Religion psyop comes in handy (for them). IT would have you continue as you have the last 70 years pinning yourselves against the rest of the world. there is only one major threat we should be targeting with our posts, not Iran, not Russia, not countries but the Jew World Order supported by most of the 1%. All others should be treated as potential allies.
    So finally, RodW, if all you want to do is sing to the choir and be willing to offend other potential allies to do so, keep on as you are
  289. This is slowly turning out to be Trayvon Martin 2.0 …

  290. @Thicket
    You sound like a faggot

    I think she’s a girl. She obviously thinks like one.

  291. • Replies: @The Grim Joker
    I spent most of Saturday sifting through the internet looking for information on this situation. However there it is, all in your video. You took the wind out of my sails. Great video, concise, factual, references the law, comprehensive and free of emotional baggage.

    I should have waited and saved my day off. Thanks for the video. I rather enjoyed looking at and assimilating a sensible background report rather than wild emotions, hypotheses, speculation and the opinions of the legal "experts".
  292. @Agent76
    "The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people." Martin Luther King, Jr.

    “The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people.” Martin Luther King, Jr.

    “Where dem white bitches at?” Martin Luther King Jr, 15 minutes later.

  293. @Haxo Angmark
    pavement apes look out for pavement apes,

    Jews look out for Jews. Maybe,

    someday, Whites will start looking out for Whites. Then,

    it'll be tough times for Jews and pavement apes.

    Whites will never start looking out for other whites until Jews are out of the picture. And at which point the Jews are out of the picture, the amount of looking out for each other we actually need to do will hardly be noteworthy.

  294. Almost nobody (except perhaps their relatives) really cares about these negro criminals dying, they kill each other all the time, they are only seriously concerned about whites defending themselves. If whites are willing and able to defend themselves, the Zionist Occupied Entity, the US regime, cannot enslave and gradually exterminate them. (as the Zionist entity is doing to the people of Palestine)

  295. @Jake
    Your conclusion highlights in huge bold letters, that you are part of the problem: you are a materialist. That means that you do allow yourself to see, much less comprehend, the most important fact in this situation: no white ethnic or national group could be described as either so concerned for uplifting non-whites that they would allow non-whites to bludgeon whites into a Cromwellian position (instead of Hell or Connacht, it NOW is a new serfdom or death), or else be so individualistic that they cannot see that harms inflicted on masses of whites serious threats to their futures.

    That duo of mental self-destruction is common across various white peoples today, but not in 1400, because of cultural changes. Those changes began to be implanted with the Reformation, and the Enlightenment made them absolutely central.

    The answer is not Darwinian; the answer is religious culture.

    First, and foremost, there is not and never was and never can be any such thing as white culture. But there was an overarching culture of Christendom, which gave and nurtured identities worth having, identities worth fighting to save.

    This is a spiritual and religious war. The only way to win it, the only way not to lose eventually, is to strive to rebuild Christendom.

    Here is a Chronicles article that may help some people grasp the point https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2020/April-May/44/4/magazine/article/10885488/

    The absence in the lives of these callers is all that Christendom provided and nurtured. White people have been stripped of almost all that mattered most by their Elites, who chose to keep fighting to destroy Christendom. Empty shells cannot save themselves.

    Your conclusion highlights in huge bold letters, that you are part of the problem: you are a materialist. That means that you do allow yourself to see, much less comprehend, the most important fact in this situation: no white ethnic or national group could be described as either so concerned for uplifting non-whites that they would allow non-whites to bludgeon whites into a Cromwellian position (instead of Hell or Connacht, it NOW is a new serfdom or death), or else be so individualistic that they cannot see that harms inflicted on masses of whites serious threats to their futures.

    Bad thinking, bad writing.

    One follows the other like a drunken sailor following a disease-ridden prostitute down a dark alley.

    The above quote is a perfect example.

    The answer is not Darwinian

    From a comment that shows not the slightest comprehension of what Darwin wrote.

    First, and foremost, there is not and never was and never can be any such thing as white culture.

    Followed by

    White people have been stripped of almost all that mattered most by their Elites

    Part of the fun of being alive today is in spotting the many examples of Dunning-Kruger Effect. It’s literally everywhere.

  296. @Hibernian
    Citizen's arrest should be an extreme last resort... ...like when the perp is attacking you and/or a loved one and/or trespassing on your property. Not casing a neighbor's property; that's for the neighbor and/or the cops. George Zimmerman was watching, not trying to arrest.

    That having been said, it's ridiculous to call it cold-blooded murder, or even murder at all. Manslaughter, and possibly a lower degree of manslaughter.

    I was just wondering what the actual letter of the law is there, but some people sent me some of the language. I’m waiting to hear all the facts on this. If, in fact, they confronted some random jogger with guns, and killed him, they should go all the way down. But I have no reason yet to believe that that was the case.

  297. @Thicket
    I read the local DA letter that attempted to justify the murder and it is typical shyster gloss-over, which your comment touches on with the word "trespassing". Prowling or trespassing an empty place outside might be a MISDEMEANOR, but it is not a felony at all. In fact entering an unoccupied structure is also a MISDEMEANOR. To make a qualified lawful arrest on a misdemeanor it would have to be caught in the act, not chasing someone down with "stop I want to talk to you".

    Nobody has a "right" to make arrests, the law just recognizes the common justifications for making a citizens arrest in pursuit of a COMMON LAW FELONY, which is not merely a "suspicion" of prowling. There was no probable cause for anyone to detain the murder victim, and that's why they ate now arrested themselves on charges of "felony murder".

    I’m not sure–did they make an “arrest”? Did they “detain” anyone? Or did they say, “Hey, we want to talk to you?” or something like that?

    Let me know.

  298. Sean says:
    @schnellandine

    The Georgia criteria are what, exactly?
     
    17-4-60:

    A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
     
    On phone, so didn't look for definitions and context. But that appears to be current, albeit not on its own a model of clarity. I read it as the evidence standard being lowered in case of escape/attempt after felony.

    Did he have the right, under Georgia law, to rush at the white man and attempt to wrest the shotgun away from him? Did the other white man have the right to shoot the black man as the black man was attempting to take the shotgun away?
     
    Depends on unknowns. IMO, were Arbery innocent (which I think unlikely), he had plenty of impetus to consider that he was being lethally and unlawfully hunted, especially if, as reported, he'd interacted with camera guy and was aware of a squeeze maneuver. My biggest criticism of the father/son is that they were brandishing. Stupid.

    IMO, were Arbery innocent of what they suspected, he was stupid and lawful in charging the shooter, and they were lawful to then resist.

    but my bet is that the two white men will not be convicted of First Degree Murder.
     
    Won't take bet, since I agree, even with show trial. I think will be whatever variation of manslaughter and lesser charges they can stick to wall, and appeal may be good to them. In any case, their lives are perma-derailed or worse.

    And the official who wrote out his reasons for not pressing charges will not merely fall on his sword.
     
    Maybe, but he screwed up, especially if trying to help them. Show's on now, for many years.

    IMO, were Arbery innocent of what they suspected, he was stupid and lawful in charging the shooter, and they were lawful to then resist.

    All rather academic. What is more to the point for a court will be whether the McMichaels had a reasonable expectation of the shotgun being a means to effect a peaceful non violent citizen’s arrest by the time of the second confrontation, by which time they must have a good idea he was not going to pull a gun on them, or surender just because they had guns.

    My biggest criticism of the father/son is that they were brandishing

    Lacking the authority of a uniform and badge, they were going to have to brandish their firearms to arrest him, which might have been fine, but he was crazy. If one takes the circumstances of the trigger being pulled twice (first time a non lethal wound to the hand) by the younger McMichael then he was justified beyond any question. The context of how this arose puts the McMichaels in a less flattering light.

    They will get a not guilty, but the process will amount to a public admonishing of the McMichaels for persisting in harrying Arbery after it was clear he was not going to stop. The driver in the following truck certainly seems to have began to have second thoughts after the first confrontation and dawdled realising that he was well out of it. McMichael should not have left his firearm in an unlocked vehicle to be stolen in the first place. Insouciance followed by overeaction without regard to the consequences.

  299. @Thicket
    How do you know any of this? Links? Were you there? Is the UNZ site so important that the local KKK has actually paid you to spread this disinformation? About the only compelling point you made is if the jogger was actually wearing Timberland boots. Otherwise, the answer is NO, and nobody "has to stop" nor even rely on "just waiting for the police". I don't care what anybody thinks this man did by snooping around empty houses or whatever, they had no right to confront him and especially not brandishing firearms.

    Why didn't THEY just follow at a safe distance and "wait for the police"? I have no burden or duty to stop just because you feel lie engaging with me. and this is the root of white privileges which is really white arrogance. And i say this as white man myself who has been affronted too may times by weak people who think they're magically entitled. I have seen this too many times up close.

    I sincerely hope that the next time you are “affronted” (confronted?), it will be by some surly Negroes who beat you to within an inch of your life for your cell phone. I also hope that there are a bunch of Negro “witnesses” around who claim that you called them all N*ggers and you end up emerging from your coma to find that you are facing Hate Crime charges. I hope that it makes the MSM and that no one believes that you were the victim rather than the instigator.

    Then we’ll see how your illusion of “magically entitled” rapidly vanishes into thin air faster than Houdini could say abracadabra.

    • Agree: schnellandine
  300. @Anonymous
    UNZ doesn't exist to wipe your ass for you. Feel free to go back where you came from, on the internet and in real life.

    It exists NOT because of illiterate racist bigots, but because of people who can think and use analysis rather than those who thrive on hatred and racism like you and Malkin. Facebook will put you in the rubbish pin.

  301. Given the relatively vast number of white people that are brutally murdered by black men lacking even the slightest trace of righteous motivation – crimes that are effectively ignored by the MSM – why should I give a damn about the death of Ahmaud Arbery? Why should I, a white male, care one bit even if the two white males were looking for an excuse to shoot him? I certainly don’t condone it if that were the case. At one point earlier in my life I might have thought Arbery’s death tragic, even if his jogging story was phony and it was just another crime spree day for him. Now I couldn’t care less. It’s obvious that this is the media’s new Trayvon Martin. MSM propaganda has it that black men receive disproportionate condemnation and punishment for every little thing they do, but what I see is exactly the opposite. Any time a black man is killed by white males, or even harassed by “white Hispanics” (like the new cause celebre involving Bronx police and an “innocent” black bystander), that black man has his case splashed across the headlines in every major news media source and is given more the benefit of doubt than he usually deserves. In contrast, consider the cases of white men and women murdered by black men like…well, just go ahead and read any piece by Paul Kersey. Whether Arbery deserved it, or was asking for it, or died unjustly at the end of white racist gun barrels, I just do not care. I won’t care until the MSM treats all similar murders involving victims of all races with equal empathy, outrage, and scrutiny.

    • Thanks: Current History
    • Replies: @Truth
    Given the relatively vast number of white people that are brutally murdered by black men

    That would be about 400-500 a year, in a country of 200 million whites, and that includes domestic violence, drunk driving vehicular homicide, and criminal cohesion gone wrong, etc.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers


    Why do you think Big Curse has to include so many, black on black,black on Asian and Hispanic, and "let's remember that murder in 2013..." posts in his weekly journal?

    , @obvious
    It's a good thing you are entitled to the right kind of speech patterns and media entertainment
  302. @padre
    Of course he should stop, because if you're innocent, you have nothing to fear from the police, especially if you're black,right!But than again, blacks and Latinos have it in their blood, they are all rapists and murderers, according to Trump!

    I grew up in a predominantly Black neighborhood that has become largely Hispanic. For the last few years, the Negroes have been going around and robbing the Mexicans on payday. There was one group of Negro youth that were staging holdups right in the middle of the Mexican’s yards. Some older Mexican men grabbed them and held them until the Police arrived. They made a citizen’s arrest, comprende?

    There was another gang of Negroes in their late twenties who were going into the Cantinas and dragging the waitresses around by the hair while sticking them up. The Police did, unfortunately, catch the perpetrators, but hopefully, some other Negroes will pick up where they left off.

    The Black Flight from the Barrio has been an interesting development and has led to some truly satisfying conflicts. I really enjoy seeing the violent interactions between other races without Whitey to referee for them. Without the White Elmer’s Glue holding this ugly, multicultural collage together, the Minorities do not get along.

  303. @Trinity
    Do you people remember when a Black woman abducted a 12 year old white boy in Texas and burned him to death with a blowtorch?

    Speaking of Georgia. Do you people remember hearing about a White woman and her kids being purposely ran over by a car driven by a Black male in a McDonald's parking lot? This happened way back around 2004, but hey, we still hear about Rodney King.

    IF you answered no, congrats, you are part of everyday normal American society, you have the pleasure of hardly ever reading, seeing or hearing about Black on White crime that is purposely BLACKED OUT by the JEWISH RUN AND CONTROLLED MEDIA.

    A question for Whites and even Hispanics, and Orientals. Would you feel safe jogging alone in an all Black ghetto even in the daytime? Well, you know what I see all the time living in a 98% White small town in JawJah, that's right racist Georgia, I see lone Black females and males walking all by their lonesome and they aren't molested verbally or harassed much less physically attacked. Now go and try walking in the hood as a lone White female or even a White male in the hood in Atlanta, Baltimore or Philly and tell me how long you last without being at least threatened. You would be lucky not to be sucker punched at the very least. And yet with all the THOUSANDS OF BLACK ON WHITE UNPROVOKED PHYSICAL ATTACKS, AND THESE ATTACKS OFTEN ARE BRUTAL, YOU NEVER SEE THE MEDIA COVERAGE OR ANGERED "ANTI-RACISTS" OUT THERE PROTESTING FOR JUSTICE. haha. It looks like these "anti-racists" SJW and others aren't crusaders for justice but they are just hate-filled anti-White racist who only crawl out from under their rock and for 20-30 bucks an hour courtesy of Daddy Sorosbucks march along and spew "Hate Whitey," and maybe loot some liquor stores that happen to be on the way. Also this gives these "anti-racists" a perfect opportunity or is it an excuse to pull innocent Whites out of their cars and beat them to a pulp.

    I’ve never heard of the blowtorch murder or the mcds car murder…..got links? Would like to read them.

    • Replies: @SomeoneOutHere
    The blowtorch killer was Mona Yvette Nelson.Happened in Texas in 2010.Search her name and links will come up,but here's one.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/mona-nelson-accused-burning-jonathan-foster-shes-monster/story?id=12514556
  304. @the shadow
    Just to make it clear. Some racist goon stopping me on the street has nio expectation that I have any obligatioin to be compliant with whatever demands he makes., Indeed, merely making sucvh demands when he has not authrotu to expet comliance is in itself a villation of any citizen's civil rights. SO IT'S THE PERSON MAKING THAT DEMAND AND SEEKING TO ENFORCE IT WHO IS THE AGRRESSOR, AND HIS VICTIM HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST SUCH EFFRONTERY.

    Were you intoxicated when you typed that pathetic response? Nothing was even remotely clear about it. Try consulting a dictionary and learn how to spell before you inadvertently reveal how illiterate you are. Or, at least Sober Up before commenting.

  305. I can only hope hope these two despicable redneck thugs are brutally raped and then murdered in prison. But since this racist, redneck nation will most likely let them off the hook I sincerely hope that somehow, some way, life will hog tie them and force feed them a taste of their own southern medicine. Lord, it sure would be nice if everyone could watch it again and again on Youtube. I know I would. Have a nice day, all you neo nazi libertarians!

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Nazism was anything but libertarian. A normal human being wouldn't have to be told that.
  306. He sure is just a __gger.

  307. @vot tak
    Reason 2:

    So Let Me Get This Straight: Michelle Malkin Claims to Have Rewritten the History of Japanese Internment in Just 16 Months?

    http://hnn.us/articles/7094.html

    Do we really need to relearn the lessons of Japanese American internment?

    https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Do-we-really-need-to-relearn-the-lessons-of-2724896.php#ixzz1G4XdDKkU

    "But now the old accusations are back. Fox News media personality Michelle Malkin claims that some Japanese Americans were spies during World War II. Based upon her suspicions, Malkin claims the internment of all Japanese Americans was not such a bad idea after all. She goes on to claim that racial profiling of Arab Americans today is justified by the need to fight terrorism. According to Malkin, it is OK to take away an entire ethnic group's civil rights because some individuals are suspect. Malkin argues for reviving the old notion of guilt by association.

    It is painful to see reopened for serious debate the question of whether the government was justified in imprisoning Japanese Americans during World War II. It was my hope that my case and the cases of other Japanese American internees would be remembered for the dangers of racial and ethnic scapegoating.

    Fears and prejudices directed against minority communities are too easy to evoke and exaggerate, often to serve the political agendas of those who promote those fears. I know what it is like to be at the other end of such scapegoating and how difficult it is to clear one's name after unjustified suspicions are endorsed as fact by the government. If someone is a spy or terrorist they should be prosecuted for their actions. But no one should ever be locked away simply because they share the same race, ethnicity, or religion as a spy or terrorist. If that principle was not learned from the internment of Japanese Americans, then these are very dangerous times for our democracy."

    The Japanese obtained their detailed knowledge of Pearl Harbor from spies. The entire West Coast was vulnerable to Fifth Column insurgents. The Japanese used women from Korea, China and the Philippines for sexual exploitation by their troops. These “Comfort Women” ranged in age from nine to nineteen, with the average being thirteen. The European nurses who were taken into captivity by the Japanese were repeatedly raped, brutalized, and urinated and defecated on by the Officers. You obviously don’t have a clue about them.

    Today, the Japanese continue to be extremely insular and hardly allow any immigration. Nor, do they permit immigrants to alter their culture. They don’t allow Muslims to come there and build Mosques. That is the only lesson we should learn from the Japanese.

  308. @vot tak
    Typical white trash convicts:

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200508074711-greg-travis-mcmichael-mugshot-large-169.jpg

    Really? I see two Heroes on The Front Lines of The Battle against The Black Plague. The only Trash around here is YOU!

    • Replies: @vot tak
    "Really? I see two Heroes on The Front Lines of The Battle against The Black Plague."

    IE: "Us like-it-up-the-buttskys defend our own". Well, there you have it... :-D
  309. Anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Rich
    First off, before my knees went bad, I was an avid runner, I wasn't running through other towns, I stuck to my own streets or public parks. And a real runner doesn't stop to look at construction sites. His former convictions, his running at his pursuers, shows something wasn't right. I just hope they have video of him casing, or burglarizing other homes. At least these two stand a chance in Georgia, in NY they'd bring back death row if they could find a White man to lynch for shooting a black felon.

    The video you requested exists.

    Occidental Dissent put it up today.

    He s on video trespassing on the hone construction site casing the place.

    He wasn t “jogging” . Instead he was caught trespassing and hauled off running to flee .

    The video evidence overwhelming supports the White neighborhood watch guys.

  310. @KA
    rbery was killed in February. One of his killers, Gregory McMichael, is a retired police detective. The other killer is McMichael’s son, Travis. One had a handgun, the other a shotgun. For more than two months, no charges were filed, despite the pleas from Arbery’s family. McMichael told his friends in the cop shop that he believed Arbery was a suspect in a string of robberies in the neighborhood in Brunswick. But police records show there’d only been one reported burglary in the past month. No charges were filed. The prosecutor, searching for an excuse, said the McMichaels had the right to detain Arbery under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away.

    Then, earlier this week, a cellphone video of the shooting surfaced, showing that Arbery was shot within mere seconds of being accosted by the McMichaels.-www.counterpunch.com https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/08/roaming-charges-aint-living-long-like-this/

    Like this "under Georgia’s archaic “citizen’s arrest” law. And to shoot him when he ran away”

    Will Syria or Venezuela or Serbia emulate this law ? What about Japan and Philippine?

    Syria is in a state of Civil War. If you believe the MSM narrative, Assad was gassing Women and Children. Regardless, the Rebels morphed into ISIS and began to kill indiscriminately as they spread into a lawless Iraq.

    Venezuela, a place where dissidents are imprisoned, tortured, and murdered is your idea of a lawful society? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/04/world/americas/venezuela-police-abuses.html

    Serbia did a damn fine job of ridding themselves of the Bosnian Muslim Menace, until the Jewnited States intervened on behalf of the real criminals. This article is rare, in that it tells of some of the crimes perpetrated against the Serbians, but omits the fact that the tensions that led to the conflict were instigated by the Muslims and that Serbs were retaliating after being victimized for years. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bosnia-warcrimes/sarajevo-prosecutor-indicts-14-bosnian-muslims-over-war-crimes-against-serbs-idUSKBN1EM1BD
    It is very difficult to find any coverage from the Serbian point of view, where they still view Slobodan Milosevic as a Savior. I still relish the words of General Ratko Mladic telling the U.N. tribunal “F*ck You!” as he was being sentenced.

    Japan is arguably the most ethnocentric nation on Earth and is definitely free from Negroid misbehavior and would not tolerate its manifestation. They were going to give Paul McCartney seven years in prison for marijuana possession. It was only his money and fame that got him out of that predicament. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/paul-mccartney-is-released-from-a-tokyo-jail-and-deported-from-japan

    The Philippines is a strange territory where Pacific Islanders have Hispanic surnames. Where a Rebel Muslim faction has long been at odds with Christians and foreigners. https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/27415/with-autonomy-in-the-southern-philippines-muslim-rebels-must-learn-how-to-govern

    What Universe were you orbiting in before you landed on this planet?

  311. anon[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    neither of us know the full context behind what any of the players in this grotesque drama did.
     
    I've periodically checked the comments on this article to see if there's been any new information either way.

    It looks to me like the black dude, for some reason attacked the younger guy holding the shotgun. Then the dad plugged him.

    Why did he attack?

    If he attacked for no good reason, like it looks like in the video, then I figure he got what was coming to him. You shouldn't go around randomly attacking folks, especially if they're armed.

    But if the white guy did something, like tell the black dude to 'drop to your knees!', then I figure the black dude had a right to beat the shit out of him. You don't go around shouting things or trying to intimidate people who're minding their own business.

    But from the video, all of that is speculation. Until we know more, it's all speculation.

    Watch the vid at the 00:17 mark. https://twitter.com/i/status/1257700960618643459 Arbery runs thru the bend and sees the pickup ahead. He has discarded the hammer on the road. The car following him sees that, the assumption may then be that Arbery no longer poses a threat.
    Have a think about that. He keeps running forward, goes around the pickup, then does a sharp left turn and goes straight for the shotgun. Then the vid loses the image because the driver is loading his weapon.
    Arbery had no reason to do that, he could have just kept on running and the other 2 couldn’t have done a thing.
    The bloke was just irrational, like Emmett Till Jr.
    No way he was ever going to make old bones.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    Young Till the Mississippi sex criminal wasn't a junior. His rapey/killy father was named Louis.
    , @freedom-cat
    It looks very much like the guy with the gun was walking in front of vehicle to get closer to Arbery. Arbery likely saw the guy moving towards him and may have figured he was in danger and his best chance was Self defense.

    Arbery was running towards the left side of vehicle at first, but then switches to move around the other way. Obviously, he was moving out of their way, but the guy with the gun starts moving towards Arbery with an Effing gun.

    A bunch of COWARDS. And for what? Because an Unarmed guy stole something?
    Arbery comes off as the Brave one, just trying to defend himself against Armed thugs.

    This only helps the Anti-Racist's and Leftists.
  312. The liars keeping crying about the illegality of the citizen’s arrest, but unless these two tried to PHYSICALLY DETAIN Arbery or brandished their weapons in such a manner as to be construed as physical force, this “law” isn’t even triggered nor up for consideration.

    The only point of law to be determined is whether the son acted in self-defense when Arbery made his charge.

    And the law in Georgia is clear.

    That GBI made an arrest now is nothing more than caving to political pressure.

    • Replies: @The Grim Joker
    Absolutely right Thordaddy. According to the prosecutors who excused themselves from the case Georgia law :

    -Allows for a citizen arrest if there is reasonable SUSPICION ie there does not have to be "beyond reasonable doubt"
    -Allows open carry of pistols and long guns in your house, place of employment and vehicle
    -Allows you to kill someone in the defense of your own or someone's else life

    Other pertinent points in this situation:

    -Who goes running with workboots and cargo pants miles from their home
    -In the video we can see some sort of implement dropped on the road. Watch as the camera pans to the right. A hammer ? A pry bar ?
    -There are 911 calls to the Police that the guy was seen scoping/ entering properties, was accosted and was fleeing the scene
    -There is a security video of him in someone's property and he was identified by his own mother
    -The father and son did not display a deliberate intention to kill him. They did not point their guns at him, were following him (not chasing or hunting him)
    -They were waiting for him with the intention of holding him for the Police who were on their way
    -He had every opportunity to avoid them and could have escaped to the right or left or just continued running but instead attacked
    -The autopsy report showed the wounds were consistent with him struggling for the shotgun
    -In the struggle for the gun HE may have triggered the shots by pulling the weapon to himself in an effort to get it away from McMichaels.
    -In fighting for the gun he triggered the Georgia law of no retreat which allows the defender to kill in self defense
    -It was all videotaped, happened in broad daylight, in a populated area and the video was given to the Police
    -The black man was a known trouble maker in with a long criminal record and a mental issues

    Finally the 3 guys were arrested not on any legal basis (2 prosecutors had already given their reasons for not doing so) but because there was the usual outcry from the rabble, sports figures and sleazebag politicians and preachers.

    I may be wrong but I doubt the trio will be convicted of any crime. Like it or lump it, in a court of law, what is important is EVIDENCE not emotions. Right or wrong the consensus among lawyers is that the prosecution will have zero chance of a conviction.

    As the old saw says "you know what you think you know but can you prove it"?

  313. Nobody here noticed that Michelle Malkin is still defending a convicted rapist who is now serving a 200-year prison term?

  314. @Johnny C Goode
    The video shows Mr. Arbery running straight at the man with a shotgun, trying to grab it. Why? I wouldn’t do that. Would you?

    Did the other men say something extremely threatening? Why was the shotgun brandished in the first place? Why was one guy out in the open if they thought Arbery had a gun? Were they simply looking for trouble?

    A jury needs to decide (not hysterical leftists and MSM).

    Guess the corona experience/kung flu/woo hoo flu/ching chong flu hoax card has been worn out, so time for the lefties and their partners in crime, the msm, to recycle the race card…again. And, of course, without much in the way of facts, save for the ol’ “white man/men shot and killed a black guy” while thousands upon thousands of blacks are killing their own. And, oh yeah, before this gets too far down the road, it’ll be another, “…it’s Trump’s fault…” blame game farce.

  315. @Truth
    LOL, hey if we had a million Dylan Klebolds, neither would whites...

    Dylan Klebold was Jewish. George Zimmerman is half Jewish and half Hispanic, and so is Nikolas Cruz.

    We don’t have a million Dylan Roofs, but we certainly have millions of Negroes running amok, raping, robbing and murdering, and then burning down entire city blocks when someone (the police) tries to put a stop to their lunacy. With the Atlanta Police refusing to prosecute shoplifters, vandals and thieves, how far behind are other municipalities? Who can honest people trust to defend them? If this case serves as an example, then residents aren’t even permitted to protect their neighborhoods and Citizen Crime Watches are in jeopardy everywhere.

    The Police should refuse to respond to any calls in a majority Black area, and that’s the Truth.

    • Replies: @Hibernian

    George Zimmerman is half Jewish...
     
    Because he shares the same surname as a famous musician from Minnesota. Got it.

    This has been debunked here repeatedly.
  316. @the shadow
    Just to make it clear. Some racist goon stopping me on the street has nio expectation that I have any obligatioin to be compliant with whatever demands he makes., Indeed, merely making sucvh demands when he has not authrotu to expet comliance is in itself a villation of any citizen's civil rights. SO IT'S THE PERSON MAKING THAT DEMAND AND SEEKING TO ENFORCE IT WHO IS THE AGRRESSOR, AND HIS VICTIM HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST SUCH EFFRONTERY.

    Who know what evil lurk all up in the mind of mans….Da Shadow Do.

  317. @MrTea
    The sources you cite just spent years whipping up an hysteria about "collusion" with Russia that did not exist. See the newly-released transcripts with the testimony of Clapper et al. The "types" you refer to knew this all along by way of the factual research done by writers like John Solomon and the truth-seekers at Judicial Watch.

    CNN is a joke and the NY Times had been stinking with corruption since the days when their boy Duranty fronted for Stalin while he murdered millions in Ukraine. The media corruption is pervasive and a matter of public record

    http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

    though this has never been acknowledge by any corporate news instrument. Or any of the hackademic whores who fawn and front for them. I suppose you believe in the Warren Commission too? (Like Saint Chomsky!)

    Watergate.com has some interesting historical revision to offer. Also the recently-published and as expected, ignored "Postgate" https://www.postgatebook.com/
    authored by the lawyer who repped for "Deep Throat" himself.

    In 1906, the Jewish Ochs family buys The New York Times. British politician, Sir Cecil Spring-Rice states, “One by one, the Jews are capturing the principal newspapers of America” (Letter Nov 1914, to Sir Edward Grey, Letters and Friendships). What a “Nazi”!!!

  318. @Montefrío
    I don't live in the USA, haven't for 20+ years, never will again, so I don't believe myself competent to comment on the merits or lack thereof of the criminal case. I simply state that the small South American village in which I live has no blacks; in fact there are virtually none within 230 km (150 miles more or less) with a mountain range in the middle. That was no small consideration when I elected to live here, eventually accompanied by my son, his Latina wife and my three grandchildren.

    Am I prejudiced? I suppose so, although I have a dear friend who is from Bahía, the blackest part of Brazil. She's a fine person, and readily admits that she understands my motives for avoiding living near blacks. It's simply common sense on my part.

    Voluntary segregation is not "racist" in the sense of wishing no contact with anyone of a different race (black in particular). Nevertheless, a person of largely African descent is unlikely to want to live in the village in which I live because it will be made quite clear by virtually everyone that there are more congenial places to live than here, trust fund hippies notwithstanding; they know that they are tolerated, but barely, and with the new virus dispensation and resulting localism, that could change if they fail to keep a low profile.

    The motto of this village is that "there still are places like this" and the tacit consensus is that we will keep it that way.

    You are right to live far away from these people. They are nothing but trouble to themselves and others. Dont come back to the US, it is not what it used to be and gets worse with each passing day. It is difficult to find a place in North America free of these individuals. Even if you move to a predominantly white area, one that is safe and trouble free, blacks who want to escape their slum, are also attracted to that place and move in. Then, their friends, family and acquaintances come to visit and soon the problems THEY escaped from recur in the new area. Soon the whites all move out and what was once a safe decent area becomes another dump over run with drug dealing, pimps and hookers, gunfights, garbage, rundown buildings, abandoned houses, stray dogs, rats, pulled down fences, groups of idle black men hanging around the corners, constant police sirens and black derelicts pushing shopping carts roaming the streets looking for bottles and cans.

    These problems are compounded by more and more blacks moving in from Africa. To these people accustomed to extreme poverty, hunger and living in a house made of sticks, mud and cow shit wattle the US is the land of milk and honey with free everything plus a monthly income. These characters hang around the local coffee shops all day. Enter any one of these and you will hear a dozen different languages coming from a dozen different facial types.

    Voluntary segregation is not racist my friend you are quite correct about that. You are lucky to be able to live in a place like your village and further to watch your kids and grand kids grow up in such an environment.

  319. @RodW
    Don’t be so defeatist. When we see how many other people think as we do, we take encouragement from that and resolve not to be cowed into silence any more. Try it for yourself.

    In private all white forums, you throw out your insults to other races and beliefs.In public forums you discuss nothing that the enemy can use to weaken you. Of course that’s where the White Race Religion psyop comes in handy (for them). IT would have you continue as you have the last 70 years pinning yourselves against the rest of the world. there is only one major threat we should be targeting with our posts, not Iran, not Russia, not countries but the Jew World Order supported by most of the 1%. All others should be treated as potential allies.
    So finally, RodW, if all you want to do is sing to the choir and be willing to offend other potential allies to do so, keep on as you are

    • Agree: Craig Nelsen
    • Replies: @RodW
    I use Facebook because it's useful for my business, and also for gathering info about what normies are talking about. My normie Facebook acquaintances post all the memes they get from Huffpost or wherever the hell serves up this propaganda day in and day out. Occasionally I register my dissent, whereupon my Facebook acquaintances realise that I'm a bigot and a white supremacist and a homophobe and an antisemite and an islamophobe. Then generally one of three things happens;

    1. They scream and shout their epithets then they block me. Good riddance -- why should I care?
    2. They scream and shout their epithets and argue back, but still continue to engage with me. Presumably they derive some value from knowing me.
    3. They quietly Like my rebuttals, whereby I can learn that there is in fact a community of like-minded bigots out there, some of whom I might call on if push ever comes to shove.

    The same sort of pattern applies in real life too.

    What you're suggesting reminds me of 'tactical voting' where you vote for someone you don't want for fear of getting someone worse. The result of that is that you always end with some pol you never wanted, and you destroy your own natural constituency at the same time.
  320. @thordaddy
    The liars keeping crying about the illegality of the citizen’s arrest, but unless these two tried to PHYSICALLY DETAIN Arbery or brandished their weapons in such a manner as to be construed as physical force, this “law” isn’t even triggered nor up for consideration.

    The only point of law to be determined is whether the son acted in self-defense when Arbery made his charge.

    And the law in Georgia is clear.

    That GBI made an arrest now is nothing more than caving to political pressure.

    Absolutely right Thordaddy. According to the prosecutors who excused themselves from the case Georgia law :

    -Allows for a citizen arrest if there is reasonable SUSPICION ie there does not have to be “beyond reasonable doubt”
    -Allows open carry of pistols and long guns in your house, place of employment and vehicle
    -Allows you to kill someone in the defense of your own or someone’s else life

    Other pertinent points in this situation:

    -Who goes running with workboots and cargo pants miles from their home
    -In the video we can see some sort of implement dropped on the road. Watch as the camera pans to the right. A hammer ? A pry bar ?
    -There are 911 calls to the Police that the guy was seen scoping/ entering properties, was accosted and was fleeing the scene
    -There is a security video of him in someone’s property and he was identified by his own mother
    -The father and son did not display a deliberate intention to kill him. They did not point their guns at him, were following him (not chasing or hunting him)
    -They were waiting for him with the intention of holding him for the Police who were on their way
    -He had every opportunity to avoid them and could have escaped to the right or left or just continued running but instead attacked
    -The autopsy report showed the wounds were consistent with him struggling for the shotgun
    -In the struggle for the gun HE may have triggered the shots by pulling the weapon to himself in an effort to get it away from McMichaels.
    -In fighting for the gun he triggered the Georgia law of no retreat which allows the defender to kill in self defense
    -It was all videotaped, happened in broad daylight, in a populated area and the video was given to the Police
    -The black man was a known trouble maker in with a long criminal record and a mental issues

    Finally the 3 guys were arrested not on any legal basis (2 prosecutors had already given their reasons for not doing so) but because there was the usual outcry from the rabble, sports figures and sleazebag politicians and preachers.

    I may be wrong but I doubt the trio will be convicted of any crime. Like it or lump it, in a court of law, what is important is EVIDENCE not emotions. Right or wrong the consensus among lawyers is that the prosecution will have zero chance of a conviction.

    As the old saw says “you know what you think you know but can you prove it”?

  321. You apologists are pathetic. I saw some some of the surveillance footage. He ran through yards and took a total right turn “jogging” on the street when he saw an open garage door. I guess that’s when someone called 911 and he took off running. This guy at 26, had never had a job. Just another sorry negro who infests the south casing and scoping out white neighborhoods. And just like all of them, had a rap sheet. Blacks are ruining the south!Here’s your choir boy again,,,

  322. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    "Our"?

    Speak for yourself. I am not white and I would never want to be.

    Thank God for that. We would not want you to be either !

  323. Gun rights activists and advocates are their own worst enemies. With rights comes duty and obligation and holding yourself to account. The McMichael’s have abused gun rights. If you truly care about gun rights and are sincere, you should ensure that those who abuse gun rights and don’t hold themselves to account and instead flout the law and engage in grossly negligent and illegal behavior that violates many laws not just gun laws, well, you should insist such bastards are held to account and are punished accordingly. Otherwise, you have no credibility whatsoever and you set a precedent for stricter and more draconian gun laws in the future.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
  324. @Realist
    Here is an article that should satisfy your burning desire for the truth.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    I looked at the Trayvon Martin Hoax video. Man , that culture is really f####d up !

    • Agree: Realist
    • Troll: Agent76
  325. @anon
    Watch the vid at the 00:17 mark. https://twitter.com/i/status/1257700960618643459 Arbery runs thru the bend and sees the pickup ahead. He has discarded the hammer on the road. The car following him sees that, the assumption may then be that Arbery no longer poses a threat.
    Have a think about that. He keeps running forward, goes around the pickup, then does a sharp left turn and goes straight for the shotgun. Then the vid loses the image because the driver is loading his weapon.
    Arbery had no reason to do that, he could have just kept on running and the other 2 couldn't have done a thing.
    The bloke was just irrational, like Emmett Till Jr.
    No way he was ever going to make old bones.

    Young Till the Mississippi sex criminal wasn’t a junior. His rapey/killy father was named Louis.

  326. This is slowly turning out to be Trayvon Martin 2.0 …

    Agreed, both sides are conflating all these various cases as though they are one. Each case must be decided on its own merits and each case is unique. Michael Brown, for example, was a thug who went after Darren Wilson’s gun while Wilson was still in his cruiser. The evidence speaks clearly to this. This case is very different from the Michael Brown case and actually very different from the Trayvon Martin case. The McMichael’s were clearly engaging in illegal behavior. The Citizen’s Arrest law does not apply. That is obvious and clear. They aggressively pursued Arbery with guns drawn and they created a gauntlet to trap and corner him. They provoked this. Anything that results from that provocation is ON THEM. They created the context and their actions in creating it and how it all ended were illegal. This is an open and shut case. As far as Arbery trespassing, who hasn’t looked around in a house under construction? My bro had a million dollar home being constructed in his neighborhood and when I visited him we took a tour so to speak. If two yahoos like this saw that and stalked my bro and I like they did Arbery, things could have turned out very much the same way. Looking around a home under construction is not the same thing as breaking into someone’s home and looking around in their safe for diamonds. Apples and oranges.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Hibernian

    who hasn’t looked around in a house under construction?
     
    There's a difference between looking at or even over a construction site and going into a house under construction and taking a look around. In the late 60's two friends of a friend of mine broke into a foundry and went joyriding around in a forklift, then were caught by the cops. They went to Juvenile Court and they, or rather their parents, were fined. Of course a lot of kids have done stuff like this and not gotten caught. This guy was 26, old enough to know better. it's at least a mitigating circumstance in regard to the homicide which certainly wasn't cold blooded murder.
    , @map
    No, you’re a moron.

    You’re like every other leftist who argues by pretending not to know things. Abvery and Michael Brown are all the same case. It’s the case of blacks being allowed to do whatever they want as evidenced by the severe under-policing and under-imprisonment of that population, along with the media white-washing of all of their crimes.

    This is so severe, that black attacks against whites in white neighborhoods is common, to the point where you have to have these vigilantes around. Even then, they are so law-abiding that they attempted to involve the police.

    If these two are railroaded, then, in the future, all you will find is a dead body in the road and no one saying nothing.
  327. @Achmed E. Newman
    The difference with the internet, Mr. Adunai, is that one can pick and choose where to get this information from. This site is an example, and you are here. The stuff out of the TV, which plenty of people still have on all the time, not to mention businesses in waiting rooms, etc. is information flow that one cannot control. It's pretty much the same narrative on all channels (don't give me any "but"s about Fox news either).

    > “The difference with the internet, Mr. Adunai, is that one can pick and choose where to get this information from.”

    You are severely overestimating the mental faculties of the masses. They bring their prison with them whenever they go. The ideas do not live in TVs and newspapers – they inhabit the very air we breathe. How else do Ukrainians parrot the line of the American propaganda word for word? Because it all stems from Christianity. All our books, our music, our history, our fiction – Christianity has seeped into everything.

    In Ukraine, people talk about turning off the TV when they mean “Putin bad”. The line in this thread is effectively the same. A full apostasy would mean quite a lot more – more drastic and extreme.

    • Agree: commandor
  328. @Hans
    Not sure how it's vigilantism. Mr. Armed Robbery did a Michael Brown and tried to take the weapon. From the D.A.'s letter:

    OCGA17-4-60 "A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge . If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion .”

    "From said video it appears Ahmaud Arbery was running along the right side of the McMichael truck then abruptly turns 90 degrees to the left and attacks Travis McMichael who was standing at the front left corner of the truck . A brief skirmish ensues in which it appear Arbery strikes McMichael and appears to grab the shotgun and pull it from McMichael The shot is through Arbery's right hand palm which is consistent with him grabbing and pulling the shotgun at the barrel tip, the 2nd and 3rd wounds are consistent with the struggle for the shotgun as depicted in the video , the angle of the 2nd shot with the rear of the butt stock being pushed away and down from the fight are also consistent with the upward angle of blood plume shown in the video and that McMichael was attempting to push the gun away from Arbery while Arbery was pulling it toward himself. The 3rd shot too appears to be in a struggle over the gun. The angle of the shots and the video show this was from the beginning or almost immediately became-- a fight over the shotgun .
    Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself. Just as importantly, while we know McMichael had his finger on the trigger, we do not know who caused the firings. Arbery would only had to pull the shotgun approximately 1/ 16th to 1/8th of one inch to fire weapon himself and in the height of an altercation this is entirely possible . Arbery s mental health records & prior convictions help explain his apparent aggressive nature and his possible thought pattern to attack an armed man ."

    Some have said Robbery's clothing is inconsistent with the description of him as a "jogger." I can accept it may be true which would explain his casing the work site looking for a beverage. I still am not sure where Robbery's residence was.

    Mrs. Malkin seems to have provoked the trolls by providing such useful info on the marketing firm. Thank you very much for you good works, MM.

    'The Trayvon Hoax' Gets A Reboot With The Shooting Death Of Ahmaud Arbery - https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    The Trayvon Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America - https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

    Any normal man would defend himself against another man suddenly confronting him while holding a rifle in an aggressive manner.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    Uh, no, goofball.

    Any "normal" man would see the shotgun and run the other way.
    , @Truth
    Not Bobby Dolan.
    , @Maddaugh
    Ko Ko Ku Ku Ku ...cuckoo. First of all before YOU defend yourself you should be able to distinguish between a rifle and shotgun. Oh, I know, you are a Shaolin Monk skilled in the Martial Arts, you would get into your Kung Fu stance, wave your arms around like Bruce and the that alone would cower the shotgun toting aggressive man.

    If you ever saw the damage a shotgun does to the human body, you would tie up your TaiChi shoes and RUN. Otherwise like Ahmaud, who is probably a lot tougher than you, that aggressive man will turn you in Chowmein. Favorite hit spots for the shotgunner are the face, the stomach, the balls.

    Stop talking shit about things you know nothing about.
  329. @Hans
    Not sure how it's vigilantism. Mr. Armed Robbery did a Michael Brown and tried to take the weapon. From the D.A.'s letter:

    OCGA17-4-60 "A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge . If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion .”

    "From said video it appears Ahmaud Arbery was running along the right side of the McMichael truck then abruptly turns 90 degrees to the left and attacks Travis McMichael who was standing at the front left corner of the truck . A brief skirmish ensues in which it appear Arbery strikes McMichael and appears to grab the shotgun and pull it from McMichael The shot is through Arbery's right hand palm which is consistent with him grabbing and pulling the shotgun at the barrel tip, the 2nd and 3rd wounds are consistent with the struggle for the shotgun as depicted in the video , the angle of the 2nd shot with the rear of the butt stock being pushed away and down from the fight are also consistent with the upward angle of blood plume shown in the video and that McMichael was attempting to push the gun away from Arbery while Arbery was pulling it toward himself. The 3rd shot too appears to be in a struggle over the gun. The angle of the shots and the video show this was from the beginning or almost immediately became-- a fight over the shotgun .
    Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself. Just as importantly, while we know McMichael had his finger on the trigger, we do not know who caused the firings. Arbery would only had to pull the shotgun approximately 1/ 16th to 1/8th of one inch to fire weapon himself and in the height of an altercation this is entirely possible . Arbery s mental health records & prior convictions help explain his apparent aggressive nature and his possible thought pattern to attack an armed man ."

    Some have said Robbery's clothing is inconsistent with the description of him as a "jogger." I can accept it may be true which would explain his casing the work site looking for a beverage. I still am not sure where Robbery's residence was.

    Mrs. Malkin seems to have provoked the trolls by providing such useful info on the marketing firm. Thank you very much for you good works, MM.

    'The Trayvon Hoax' Gets A Reboot With The Shooting Death Of Ahmaud Arbery - https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    The Trayvon Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America - https://www.thetrayvonhoax.com/

    and the fact that you call people who hold opinions other than your own, “trolls” makes you look like a woketard.

    • Replies: @Hans
    LOL, Comrade Ko! Keep spewing. It's good for your carpal tunnel vision.
  330. “Sure…”

    Laughing. as I noted, the mere sign of a white person holing a weapons sends blacks into a frizzy of impulsive, and irrational behavior that they just up and and start attacking the weapon holder . . . dna by default.

    But I might take such observations save one little hurdle . . . .

    based on their own stated disposition — they were enacting a citizens arrest. Now I don’t know how the people in Georgia , including the authorities make arrests, but in my part of town and in any known reality, to arrest someone requires a confrontation, with the arrester making initiating said confrontation

    but then I understand millions of whites expect darkies to just put their hands on the car and bend over at their ere presence — mind reading intentions or adhering to national customs of convenience —-

    ————-

    Sometimes on my walks, such as last might, I almost always walk at night or early morning, but on occasion I notice an interesting car or two it might be the model, make or design, a license plate, number or state an I even stop and look at it, I have even backed up after passing a vehicle and because I walk at night and one never knows, I always walk with eye for for might be inside a vehicle, because one never knows — some crazy black person might leap out, I ten to avoid anyone walking, especially women walking alone — one never knows (tad guilty about that – because my maleness is toward looking out for . . .

    Sometimes in wee hours people have the garage doors open, again, I keep an eye out and again I feel some guilt, because maybe those people have forgotten to close their garage doors or maybe there’s someone lying on the floor and needs help . . . except on one occasion when I closed someone;s SUV hatch . . . I make the selfish choice and mind my own business, hoping not to hear some tragic news in the morning that my neglect could have prevented. It’s painful to think I have become so mistrustful.

    But what is interesting to note is that according to many of you my behavior warrants a citizens arrest and detainment.

    Interesting

    Dragnet . . .

    Just the facts . . . fact is walking jogging or singing in the rain should not be cause . . . even if you supposedly look like some rapist, described as a black guy — we ave along way to go to unravel 200 plus hundred years of socialization.

    But you keep importing those indians, mexicans, and middle easterners — that will solve it and make “america great again

    laugh

    • Disagree: Anti_barabas_ite
  331. Moly nailed it. This is the best and most complete analysis you will find and for that reason I have to repost it because there are just too many idiots in this comment section.

  332. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    You're suggesting common sense on a site that routinely posts white racist material, the comment section of which is crawling with white racists, and which goes looking for scum like Malkin - who is persona non grata even among far right wing vermin like Ben Shapiro who wants Palestinians genocided - to post. You are, unfortunately, in the wrong place for that.

    You are a racist fiendly. You are in the right place because I don’t like Shapiros killing Palestinians either on my dime. You are so uptight about this event as if it were evil.

    Evil is when you’re in California, over 6′ and 250 lbs and stab your pregnant girlfriend in a church parking lot, then flee the church and crash with your 1 year old daughter in the car, a citizen comes to pull her from the wreckage and then the sloped head stabs the citizen and slope throws baby off a cliff, into a ravine and the 1 year old is dead. Your low IQ wants to act like a slopehead charging another man with a shotgun and shooting himself in the chest with it and then falling face first is evil. Not

  333. Oct 27, 2019 Ex-Police Officer Exposes The Reality of Race & Policing | Rubin Report

    He also talks about why he is a black conservative, how he think there are far more black conservatives than people realize, why he co-founded Blexit, his role models of black business and entrepreneurship, as well as why he thinks reparations for slavery will not help the black community.

    Sep 14, 2015 The Police Have No Duty To Protect You: Joseph Lozito’s Story

    “But we need the police to protect us!!” cry some people. Yet time and time again, as Joseph Lozito found out, courts have ruled that police have no duty to protect you.

    • Replies: @KenH

    He also talks about why he is a black conservative, how he think there are far more black conservatives than people realize
     
    That's just pure B.S. Limbaugh and other cucks have been claiming there's a huge number of black conservatives since about 1993 yet the they still vote Democrat 90-95% of the time.
  334. @Avery
    The several comments blaming the victim (in a roundabout way), and basically absolving the killers have no foundation:

    1. The two white guys chased this unarmed black man in their truck, fully armed and brandishing weapons.

    2. What kind of "Stand your ground" law can possibly apply here? The man was not on their property; he was jogging _away_. They chased him, cornered him and then shot him.

    3. Even IF Ahmaud looked into some vacant house ("burglary" ? !), there is no law that gives a civilian the right to leave his own house, chase the person, and confront him. You can't claim your life is in danger, and shoot someone, if you left your own property, and went after the person - who had had no contact with you up to that point.

    4. That's what the police are for: 'suspicious person','possible burglary', etc. Call and stay in your house, with a loaded gun, in case it is a dangerous guy and he somehow ends up in your house..... while being chased by cops......

    5. You are on your own property, someone enters it without permission, threatens you or something - blast away. But chasing after someone who you _think_ may have committed burglary at some vacant house?

    What you say has no basis in reality and although I am not a lawyer no basis either under Georgia law. Much more evidence and information has come into the public forum since the hoo haa about this incident. With time and the Grand Jury much more will be revealed. Perhaps it would be best to wait and arrive at a reasonable conclusion THEN rather than having a knee jerk reaction NOW.

  335. “The Police should refuse to respond to any calls in a majority Black area, and that’s . . .”

    Laugh.

    Which describes reality in practice for years across the country by many police departments, thereby empowering the criminal element and leaving entire communities to make up their own defacto rules regarding how vast swaths of communities operated – minus the inner city connections that aided whites whose criminal element often worked with the same.

    You might want to consider the implications of such practice —- secret . . .

    black gangs did not invent the drive by . . . but don[t tell anyone.

  336. @Robert Dolan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2M5Zh-ek9M

    I spent most of Saturday sifting through the internet looking for information on this situation. However there it is, all in your video. You took the wind out of my sails. Great video, concise, factual, references the law, comprehensive and free of emotional baggage.

    I should have waited and saved my day off. Thanks for the video. I rather enjoyed looking at and assimilating a sensible background report rather than wild emotions, hypotheses, speculation and the opinions of the legal “experts”.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    Thank you but.....it's not my video. I simply posted the link from YT.

    Stefan Molyneux is the brilliant man who made the clip. And yes it is amazingly thorough, right down to the specific laws and codes.

    Stefan is an intellectual powerhouse and a great asset to the movement.
  337. @billy bob biggsworth
    I can only hope hope these two despicable redneck thugs are brutally raped and then murdered in prison. But since this racist, redneck nation will most likely let them off the hook I sincerely hope that somehow, some way, life will hog tie them and force feed them a taste of their own southern medicine. Lord, it sure would be nice if everyone could watch it again and again on Youtube. I know I would. Have a nice day, all you neo nazi libertarians!

    Nazism was anything but libertarian. A normal human being wouldn’t have to be told that.

  338. @Agent76
    "The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people." Martin Luther King, Jr.

    The word is around you like to milk BBCs !

  339. @Cowtown Rebel
    Dylan Klebold was Jewish. George Zimmerman is half Jewish and half Hispanic, and so is Nikolas Cruz.

    We don't have a million Dylan Roofs, but we certainly have millions of Negroes running amok, raping, robbing and murdering, and then burning down entire city blocks when someone (the police) tries to put a stop to their lunacy. With the Atlanta Police refusing to prosecute shoplifters, vandals and thieves, how far behind are other municipalities? Who can honest people trust to defend them? If this case serves as an example, then residents aren't even permitted to protect their neighborhoods and Citizen Crime Watches are in jeopardy everywhere.

    The Police should refuse to respond to any calls in a majority Black area, and that's the Truth.

    George Zimmerman is half Jewish…

    Because he shares the same surname as a famous musician from Minnesota. Got it.

    This has been debunked here repeatedly.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    George's father is a second-generation German-American Lutheran and his mother was Afro-Venezuelan.

    Jews in Europe often have ordinary surnames. For example, Mark Wahlberg's father was Swedish-American, but Wahlberg is often a Jewish name.

    Dylan Klybold was a quarter Jewish on his maternal grandmother's side.
  340. @vot tak
    OK, butt bandit.

    They are white trash.

    White trash in pindoland isn't really racial, but cultural. It's a clamoring to reach the bottom of moral decay before anyone else does. It's about being pissed on and loving it because it came from some one more wealthy. It's being a foot soldier in one's own exploitation and thinking one is some sort independent thinker. It's ultimately about conformity and kissing arse, while thinking one is exceptional, superior, the master race for doing so.

    Got it, shlomo.

    A schlemiel telling a schlimazel…

    • Replies: @vot tak
    Sorry shlomo, I don't speak your language. What is that in English?
  341. @450.org

    This is slowly turning out to be Trayvon Martin 2.0 …
     
    Agreed, both sides are conflating all these various cases as though they are one. Each case must be decided on its own merits and each case is unique. Michael Brown, for example, was a thug who went after Darren Wilson's gun while Wilson was still in his cruiser. The evidence speaks clearly to this. This case is very different from the Michael Brown case and actually very different from the Trayvon Martin case. The McMichael's were clearly engaging in illegal behavior. The Citizen's Arrest law does not apply. That is obvious and clear. They aggressively pursued Arbery with guns drawn and they created a gauntlet to trap and corner him. They provoked this. Anything that results from that provocation is ON THEM. They created the context and their actions in creating it and how it all ended were illegal. This is an open and shut case. As far as Arbery trespassing, who hasn't looked around in a house under construction? My bro had a million dollar home being constructed in his neighborhood and when I visited him we took a tour so to speak. If two yahoos like this saw that and stalked my bro and I like they did Arbery, things could have turned out very much the same way. Looking around a home under construction is not the same thing as breaking into someone's home and looking around in their safe for diamonds. Apples and oranges.

    who hasn’t looked around in a house under construction?

    There’s a difference between looking at or even over a construction site and going into a house under construction and taking a look around. In the late 60’s two friends of a friend of mine broke into a foundry and went joyriding around in a forklift, then were caught by the cops. They went to Juvenile Court and they, or rather their parents, were fined. Of course a lot of kids have done stuff like this and not gotten caught. This guy was 26, old enough to know better. it’s at least a mitigating circumstance in regard to the homicide which certainly wasn’t cold blooded murder.

    • Replies: @450.org
    I have never contended it's a cold-blooded murder. To me, it's second degree murder. Anyone who is an earnest and true gun rights activist would and should agree. You want gun rights, then hold yourself responsible and take accountability when someone or anyone abuses those rights as the McMichael's have done. The lynching terminology Arbery's father is using is hyperbole and only serves to obscure a constructive discussion of this case.

    As someone mentioned above, looking around a house under construction is technically trespassing and a misdemeanor. As is running a stop sign late at night when there is no traffic. Same difference as far as I'm concerned. No harm no foul. These two yahoos were grossly negligent in regard to the use of their firearms and what they did was illegal in every way. They predicated this deadly encounter. They should have reported this to the police and left it at that. Watched him perhaps, but at a distance without stalking him.

    They provoked an altercation. How can anyone deny this? You point a gun at me, you're provoking an altercation. I now believe you intend to kill me and I must do what I must do to defend myself and save my life. If someone or anyone is crazy enough to do what the McMichael's did, it means they are irrational and cowering before them or complying with them is no guarantee your life will be spared.

    Remember, when Arbery makes that sharp left and goes towards the son holding the shotgun it's only after they have hunted him like a wild boar and set up a gauntlet for him. He's now of the mindset that they intend to do him harm and they are not going to let up. He has to defend himself. If he runs into the woods to avoid getting shot, those defending the McMichael's in this comment section would then say he ran into the woods because he was clearly guilty of something. The fact he didn't run speaks to him not being guilty of anything aside from trespassing to look around at new construction.
  342. @Ko
    Any normal man would defend himself against another man suddenly confronting him while holding a rifle in an aggressive manner.

    Uh, no, goofball.

    Any “normal” man would see the shotgun and run the other way.

    • Replies: @Stewart M Schwartz
    i don't believe you have any idea what a man would do.
  343. @Neoconned
    I've never heard of the blowtorch murder or the mcds car murder.....got links? Would like to read them.

    The blowtorch killer was Mona Yvette Nelson.Happened in Texas in 2010.Search her name and links will come up,but here’s one.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/mona-nelson-accused-burning-jonathan-foster-shes-monster/story?id=12514556

    • Replies: @Flubber
    Here's a better link:

    https://murderpedia.org/female.N/n/nelson-mona.htm
  344. @The Grim Joker
    I spent most of Saturday sifting through the internet looking for information on this situation. However there it is, all in your video. You took the wind out of my sails. Great video, concise, factual, references the law, comprehensive and free of emotional baggage.

    I should have waited and saved my day off. Thanks for the video. I rather enjoyed looking at and assimilating a sensible background report rather than wild emotions, hypotheses, speculation and the opinions of the legal "experts".

    Thank you but…..it’s not my video. I simply posted the link from YT.

    Stefan Molyneux is the brilliant man who made the clip. And yes it is amazingly thorough, right down to the specific laws and codes.

    Stefan is an intellectual powerhouse and a great asset to the movement.

  345. @prime noticer
    the main reason to doubt the official story is that africans don't jog. track and road runner for 30 years here, can count on my fingers the number of other joggers i've passed that were africans. bantu descended africans in the US basically don't run anything over the 800 meters in track & field.

    also a metal head for over 30 years. there are more africans at metal concerts than african joggers. i have posted on Unz before that in some states, maybe as many as 2% of the people at a big show are african. there's even some metal bands with african guys in them. but pretty much no 5000 meter runners in the states are west africans.

    think about that next time they tell you this guy was a jogger. there are more africans at heavy metal concerts than africans who are joggers.

    Spot on. I’m also a runner and even ran a couple DC (aka Chocolate City) marathons where I used to live. I can confirm: Bantus don’t jog. And even if they did they wouldn’t jog in work boots.

    I don’t think whether or not this particular Bantu is guilty is what’s at issue (at least here on Unz). It’s whether – even assuming he was trying to steal – the two Keystone Cops were justified in chasing him down with rifles/guns.

    • Replies: @Saggy

    Bantus don’t jog.
     
    This is maybe the fifth time I've read this. What kind of idiots does Unz attract? I jog. I live on the white side of town and jog along the beach which is also on the white side of town. I occasionally see black joggers.


    One StormFront is enough, more than enough really. It is a lead weight on white nationalism that cannot be lifted.

  346. @prime noticer
    the main reason to doubt the official story is that africans don't jog. track and road runner for 30 years here, can count on my fingers the number of other joggers i've passed that were africans. bantu descended africans in the US basically don't run anything over the 800 meters in track & field.

    also a metal head for over 30 years. there are more africans at metal concerts than african joggers. i have posted on Unz before that in some states, maybe as many as 2% of the people at a big show are african. there's even some metal bands with african guys in them. but pretty much no 5000 meter runners in the states are west africans.

    think about that next time they tell you this guy was a jogger. there are more africans at heavy metal concerts than africans who are joggers.

    Just want to add my voice here. I belonged to 2 running groups in Orange county, primarily the OC roadrunners club and one other whose name escapes me. Of course there were the hard core members but each club would see at least 50 people for special events.

    I ran daily. Not always with the club, but I never, not once saw a black jogging on any of my runs.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    Blacks only "run" from the law.
  347. @rtm
    So, you determine the guilt/innocence in a murder case based on the advocates for one of the parties?
    How about focusing on the evidence itself?

    So the article is devoid of evidence. I watched the video and this is what I see; Everyone will see the train wreck differently but WOW mistakes were made. First, don’t put yourself in the vigilante position for a property crime. It might not look good if events move sideways (as in this case). Ahmaud apparently runs to the right side of the pickup. I guess self defense case will depend on witness testimony. It’s probably better to keep running than wrestle with someone armed. If you do wrestle pay attention to the business end of the weapon (You have more leverage than the shooter) and get the weapon or yourself out of the way instead of trying to punch. Also, not Hollywood. 3 shots and still attack, though not for long. Shots appear to be point blank during the altercation which will probably favor the shooter self defense.

  348. @450.org
    Agreed. The video is an indictment in and of itself. If this jogger was a burglar, would he be jogging down the road right into the waiting clutches of these two vigilantes? No, he would be running from them and not in the middle of the road. This is murder. Not manslaughter. Murder. Second degree. I care not who is representing this poor kid and his parents. Justice is blind about that and should be.

    Fyi, Black Lives Matter is bullshit and Shaun King is a race-baiting scumbag. That doesn't change the facts of this case. No way the black kid jogging in this video is a burglar and sorry, I refuse to take the McMichael's word for it. Of course they'll say anything at this point to save their skin.

    Ahmed was 12 miles from home. That implies he was on a 24-mile “jog”. That’s a long way to run dressed in long pants and boots. He already had a rap sheet for burglary. He couldn’t hold down a job and had a serious marijuana habit. His family had already expressed to authorities that he was a problem. He was seen coming out of the construction project and told to stop because police had been called. You will not get a conviction for murder based on these facts. Other witnesses will come forward. And by the way, you are a dimwit for swallowing the MSM propaganda so quickly.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    If Armed Robbery was in a mental institution where the feral beast belonged he might be alive today.
    If Jim Crow was still legal Armed Robbery would still be alive today ON HIS SIDE OF TOWN.

    Separation today ... separation forever. WE ARE NOT THE SAME.
    , @450.org
    Once again, it matters not how far he was from home. The focus is on the McMichael's and what they did, not anything about Arbery before the McMichael's spotted him. They stalked, hunted down, a person they witnessed trespassing. They had no legal right to do this. They provoked an altercation and since the elderly McMichael was a former cop, he should have known better. Shit, any half wit should know better. He let his ego and his hubris get the best of him and now he must pay the price for his sin. Considering he was a former cop, this is especially egregious on his part. What a callous idiot he is. He not only gives responsible gun owners a bad name, but he gives cops a bad name at a time when cops really don't need anymore negative publicity. He also gives prosecutors a bad name. He's a bad dude all the way around. What a terrible example he is and has been for his son. Now his son is going to jail because of his father's terrible parenting. This is a Trump supporter for you. Trump emboldens these morons. He inspires this kind of behavior.
  349. @TheTrumanShow
    This was all detailed in a public letter from District Attorney George E. Barnhill, who has worked as a criminal prosecutor for 36 years.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61435

    Barnhill wrote:
    "Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law, McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself."

    Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight

    He must have X-ray eyes or some kind of special District Attorney vision training. Personally, I’ve been trying for 40 years and I still can’t see through trucks.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
    You don't have to "see through trucks".

    All that is necessary is to observe that Arbrey was past the vehicle on the right hand side, and could have continued on this path and escaped. But instead Arbrey turned 90o to the left and attacked Travis.

    How would "see through trucks" change any of this?
  350. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Phoenix
    The DA's report has been released and along with the Full video, clearly shows this whole thing is a scam.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html

    https://youtu.be/fIve50vSeLQ

    According to the filed docs, the authorities decided that the black guy switched direction to charge a guy holding a gun, and then attacked the guy holding the gun. At that point, the authorities decided the black guy’s shooting was self-defense and didn’t charge the shooters. I would have agreed. If the black guy didn’t want to get shot he should have left them alone and played innocent.

  351. @Hibernian

    who hasn’t looked around in a house under construction?
     
    There's a difference between looking at or even over a construction site and going into a house under construction and taking a look around. In the late 60's two friends of a friend of mine broke into a foundry and went joyriding around in a forklift, then were caught by the cops. They went to Juvenile Court and they, or rather their parents, were fined. Of course a lot of kids have done stuff like this and not gotten caught. This guy was 26, old enough to know better. it's at least a mitigating circumstance in regard to the homicide which certainly wasn't cold blooded murder.

    I have never contended it’s a cold-blooded murder. To me, it’s second degree murder. Anyone who is an earnest and true gun rights activist would and should agree. You want gun rights, then hold yourself responsible and take accountability when someone or anyone abuses those rights as the McMichael’s have done. The lynching terminology Arbery’s father is using is hyperbole and only serves to obscure a constructive discussion of this case.

    As someone mentioned above, looking around a house under construction is technically trespassing and a misdemeanor. As is running a stop sign late at night when there is no traffic. Same difference as far as I’m concerned. No harm no foul. These two yahoos were grossly negligent in regard to the use of their firearms and what they did was illegal in every way. They predicated this deadly encounter. They should have reported this to the police and left it at that. Watched him perhaps, but at a distance without stalking him.

    They provoked an altercation. How can anyone deny this? You point a gun at me, you’re provoking an altercation. I now believe you intend to kill me and I must do what I must do to defend myself and save my life. If someone or anyone is crazy enough to do what the McMichael’s did, it means they are irrational and cowering before them or complying with them is no guarantee your life will be spared.

    Remember, when Arbery makes that sharp left and goes towards the son holding the shotgun it’s only after they have hunted him like a wild boar and set up a gauntlet for him. He’s now of the mindset that they intend to do him harm and they are not going to let up. He has to defend himself. If he runs into the woods to avoid getting shot, those defending the McMichael’s in this comment section would then say he ran into the woods because he was clearly guilty of something. The fact he didn’t run speaks to him not being guilty of anything aside from trespassing to look around at new construction.

    • Replies: @Hibernian

    As someone mentioned above, looking around a house under construction is technically trespassing and a misdemeanor. As is running a stop sign late at night when there is no traffic. Same difference as far as I’m concerned.
     
    It's not often that an earnest and true gun rights supporter equates daytime checking out of a construction site without permission of the owners with late night stop sign running with no traffic.
    , @thordaddy
    You are so full of shit.

    There was no illegal activity save maybe the son stepping out of the truck with a shotgun at his side until Arbery charged and made physical contact. This father/son duo could have followed Arbery around all day in their truck yelling at him to stop. This is not illegal. They could have stopped on the side of the road and yelled at him to stop fifty times throughout the day. This is not illegal. Stepping out of one’s vehicle with a shotgun MAY BE an open-carry violation, but unless one is aiming it at an individual, it can’t be considered “force” if open-carry is legal.

    The first illegal act was trespassing by Arbery. The second illegal act was Arbery’s physical assault of the son.

    It’s clear as day on the video.

  352. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    "Our"?

    Speak for yourself. I am not white and I would never want to be.

    Last I heard Africans were experiencing some racism from the Bongs in Calcutta.

    • Replies: @Velvet65
    There is so much hatred in the World! There's a lot of people going to be burning in Hell! I'd like to hear how people justify it before God!
  353. @Agent76
    MARCH 18, 2020 Cops Killed Nearly 13 Times More People Than Mass Shooters

    According to The Washington Post, 1,004 individuals were “shot and killed by police in 2019,” or 12 more than the previous year.

    https://www.criminallegalnews.org/news/2020/mar/18/cops-killed-nearly-13-times-more-people-mass-shooters/

    May 5, 2020 Former Georgia Cop and Son Chase Down Black Jogger and Kill him

    But now that a video has surfaced showing the jogger was the one acting in self defense before he was killed, prosecutors are singing a different tune, saying they will present the case to a grand jury.

    https://youtu.be/5ge6649rSQo

    Looks like murder by two bloated southern bubba pieces of shit to me.

    And at the beginning, it does look like the guy is jogging at a medium pace, not running away like a bat out of hell.

    But anyway, this is you people’s meat, isn’t it. You just love another opportunity to race-bait. The government just gave multibillionaires 5 trillion dollars and this is what you whine on about. Yeah, the danger is from un-rich joggers. The multibillionaires are your friends.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    Uh...no....that's not the deal pal.

    The core of BOTH issues, bankers stealing trillions, and the media demonizing white people, has to do with jews.

    jewish bankers stealing trillions and the

    jewish media lying about white people.

    You should view Stefan Molyneux's clip because it covers the facts in a comprehensive manner
    and you would be unable to refute any of it.

    By the way, he wasn't a "jogger."

    You don't "jog" 21 miles from home wearing construction boots.
    , @AceDeuce
    I like how c olored boys and their white cuckfluffers whine "Don't stereotype us-waaah we're not feral violent beasts. Ignore the facts". But you're sure quick to talk schitt about bloated Southern bubba pieces of schitt etc. Cletus , MAGAbillies--You all are quick with the BS.

    You even say "You people" I already know that's how your kind feels. I hope some of the brain dead whites read that and wake up. Time for "us people" to stand up. Don't want to get shot? Stop committing crimes. Phuck this schitt. We've put up with this crap for far too long.

    This guy was a criminal. They tried to make a citizen's arrest. the creep attacked them. The good guys defended themselves.
    , @Anonymous
    You know, oby, if you just go back to Africa you never have to worry about any of this. You could take your dazzling talent and irreplaceable labor with you and then it wouldn't matter who printed what because they wouldn't have your super skills to parasite off of.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Youre an african piece of shit.
  354. @Ko
    Good work Michelle. It puts a different background on the entire event. The people you wrote about are definitely racists, liars, and opportunists.

    However, even if the jogger was guilty of something, we don't know yet, were the men justified in acting as vigilantes which resulted in the joggers death?

    Looking at the even itself, it looks like 2nd degree murder.

    However, even if the jogger was guilty of something, we don’t know yet, were the men justified in acting as vigilantes which resulted in the joggers death?

    If they had shot him with a cell phone camera, that would have probably been enough to identify him as a suspect to crimes and burglaries. Apparently the most recent reported crime or burglary in the area was that someone had stolen a gun from an unlocked vehicle parked outside the McMichaels’ home, so it looks like they or their friends had a history of being careless with firearms, to say the least.

    I don’t think that they set out to kill the guy, but they were trying to act macho and were carrying guns, and as often happens in such situations, things get out of control. Maybe they had had a beer or two, I don’t know. Things sometimes get out of control with police officers too, but at least police officers usually have some kind of rudimentary training in dealing with mentally disturbed people.

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    but at least police officers usually have some kind of rudimentary training in dealing with mentally disturbed people.
     
    Yep. If only one of the shooters had been a cop for, oh, 7 years or so, you'd have been ready to sign off on the matter. Oh well.

    Damn. Here I am talking nonsense. The father was a cop for years! Silly me you.
  355. One of these days one of these bubbas is going to shoot you.

    Because you called him fat or looked at his fat wife or he had too many beers or he just didn’t like the cut of your jib.

    What racial thing does white assholes shooting whites prove?

    It proves that big fat bubbas need more shotguns. To protect themselves from you.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    Oh... look who showed up.
  356. Blacks jog all the time. You people are just out and out fantasists. It’s just the blacks in your head who don’t jog. Neither do the aliens sending radio waves in there, btw.

  357. @Hibernian

    George Zimmerman is half Jewish...
     
    Because he shares the same surname as a famous musician from Minnesota. Got it.

    This has been debunked here repeatedly.

    George’s father is a second-generation German-American Lutheran and his mother was Afro-Venezuelan.

    Jews in Europe often have ordinary surnames. For example, Mark Wahlberg’s father was Swedish-American, but Wahlberg is often a Jewish name.

    Dylan Klybold was a quarter Jewish on his maternal grandmother’s side.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  358. @NegroPantera
    How can anyone in his or her right mind support those two sick and dumb red necks who killed that man for nothing?
    So what even if he was a burglar?If these dumb red necks had any brains they would have waited for the proper authority to arrest him rather than blowing his mid section with a 12 Gauge shotgun.
    BTW, Ms Malkin would not be accepted by the likes of those red necks who committed this terrible crime. After all she is a darky and all darkys ,brown and Black, are considered N$$$rs by these mother fucking dumb red necks.

    Robbery/tresspass is out as a reason to shoot a “jogger”

    Would cutting a white womans head off in central park be ok not to wait for officialdom to react?

    Cracker should have let this “jogger” come back and kill them with the guns he stole earlier in the year…

    You “joggers” are pathetic.

    • Replies: @Truth

    Robbery/tresspass is out as a reason to shoot a “jogger”
     
    What did he rob from an unbuilt house (allegedly)? Was he going to carry the copper piping 12 miles back to his house in his cargo shorts?
  359. The real story is not with the “civil rights activists” and liberals. It’s the response of the cuckservatives. First, they fell for the innocent black jogger story. Now they’re saying he was just looking around the house under construction out of curiosity (very manly, only a girlie man would fail to understand). Check out Matt Walsh’s Twitter. He’s really saying this sort of stuff.

  360. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a real failure to understand the video here. The law doesn’t care about what-might-have-beens.

    The law only cares about ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

    1) Black guy charged white guy, moving across front of the truck to do so.
    2) Black guy attacked white guy and and tried to steal white guy’s gun from him.
    3) Before being attacked, the white guy had not pointed the gun at the black guy or attacked him.

    From the three facts above, the black guy’s death was determined to be self-defense on the part of the white guy. As far as the law is concerned, it’s IRREVELANT was the black guy was doing before the attack. The law is only going by what happened here and now by the truck. The black guy broke the law the second he attacked the white guy and tried to steal the gun.

    Of course, brainwashed liberals argue against this because they have been brainwashed into thinking that blacks are always innocent when they attack people and trying to steal guns from them.

    According to the law, the black guy has no excuse at all, because nothing FACTUALLY HARMFUL had happened to him in the video BEFORE HE ATTACKED SOMEONE ELSE AND TRIED TO STEAL THEIR GUN.

    It doesn’t matter if the black guy felt threatened by the sight of two white guys with guns, because they hadn’t done anything until the black guy ATTACKED one of the white guys. The law pays no attention to what-might-have-beens, I repeat. It goes only with what actually happened.

    That’s it, that’s the law.

  361. I live in Brunswick, and here’s the other side of the story that the media isn’t reporting, 6 points – –

    (1.) Ahmaud Marquez Arbery is suspected of being involved in a burglary on Satilla Drive in Satilla Shores.

    You can request his record from Glynn County police by phone:

    https://glynncounty.org/1925/How-Do-I

    “..Reports are generally completed by officers and reviewed by a supervisor in 3-5 days. There is normally a charge of .10 cents per page. You can call the Glynn County Police Department headquarters records section at (912) 554-7820, or come by Monday – Friday, 8:00am – 5:00pm. We are located at 157 Public Safety Blvd, Brunswick, GA 31525, off GA Spur 25 Approximately 1 1/2 miles from I-95 exit 38..”

    Call (912) 554-7820. Just request burglary report from Satilla Drive for February, and you should get it.

    (2.) Ahmaud Marquez Arbery has priors for burglary, theft, and illegally carrying a handgun at a high school basketball game.

    (3.) Security video shows Ahmaud Marquez Arbery trespassing and lurking around a home under construction immediately before the local homeowners chased him down. Ahmaud Marquez Arbery may have been casing the place for future tool theft and/or copper wire theft, all of which has been going on recently at Satilla Shores.

    (4.) I keep looking at the video, and it still shows Ahmaud Marquez Arbery trying to take the shotgun away from the homeowner.. The first shot (off camera) could have been a warning shot. I wonder what the autopsy shows for how many times he was shot?

    (5.) What the hell was Ahmaud Marquez Arbery doing “jogging” 15 miles from his home?? Look at Satilla Shores (Aerial View from Google maps) – – you can’t just stumble across the place accidentally, and that mostly white subdivision has been a target for thefts and burglaries recently. Satilla Shores is isolated, off U.S. Highway 17 (Georgia 520, Jekyll Island causeway.) Satilla Shores in an enclave that is bounded by highways, marshland, and a small creek that’s a tributary of the Brunswick River; you can’t just “jog there” from another subdivision, you have to go there intentionally, likely by car. After he was shot, did anybody recover his parked car?

    (6.) If the white guys are found innocent at trial (quite likely) then Brunswick will melt down. Elements of armed Black Panthers are already infiltrating Brunswick. If the trial is held in Brunswick, it’s possible that jurors (especially white jurors) will feel intimidated by black threats. I can’t even imagine how juror selection and protecting the jurors will work out.

    Just my two-cents, I live here, and I know what’s really going on.

    • Replies: @450.org
    What he's suspected of prior is irrelevant to what the McMichael's did. Was he trespassing? Yes. Did he steal anything? There is no evidence he did. Therefore, at most, at the moment of inception of all of this, for all the McMichael's and anyone else complicit with them knew he was just trespassing. Everything else you are mentioning is after the fact knowledge and it still doesn't justify the McMichael's behavior. Suspicion isn't covered under the citizen's arrest law and neither is trespassing which is a misdemeanor. They did not have a legal right to give chase and hunt him down and that is what they did. They hunted him down. Armed & loaded. They are terrible gun owners who ruin gun rights for those who can and do use fire arms legally and responsibly. These are precisely the type of people who should be prohibited from owning weapons. They can't be trusted to use them respsponsibly and are looking for any excuse to use them irresponsibly.
    , @schnellandine

    After he was shot, did anybody recover his parked car?
     
    Same question I've been wondering, and nobody's discussing it, appears. Why do you think that might be? I'd bet a 6-pack the answer isn't kind to the doctrine of joggerism.

    If the white guys are found innocent
     
    Trials taken to finish generally return guilty or not guilty. The distinction's worth noting. One in a state of non-innocence can rightfully be found not guilty, though good luck explaining that to an average jogger.

    Keep us informed of the local real news, and check 6.
  362. map says:
    @Avery
    Read my entire post:

    The white guys left the safety of their house, armed themselves, got into their truck and chased after him.

    Chased after him.


    The dad allegedly told the son: "I think it's him...." (....some black guy who had supposedly burglarized a house or something months ago...)

    By what logic do you justify two guys arming themselves, leaving the safety of their house, chasing him in a truck, catching up with him - and cornering him: what else do you call a couple of civilians pointing guns at you. One of them pointing a shotgun at you.

    An alleged 'burglary' suspect?

    Wow.

    Are you stupid.

    The father and son are not allowed to go out of their home, on to a public street, with their legally owned and carried guns, because there is a black out and about.

    The video clearly shows the black attacking the man with a gun. He got shot for his trouble.

    End of story.

    • Agree: GazaPlanet
  363. KenH says:
    @Agent76
    Oct 27, 2019 Ex-Police Officer Exposes The Reality of Race & Policing | Rubin Report

    He also talks about why he is a black conservative, how he think there are far more black conservatives than people realize, why he co-founded Blexit, his role models of black business and entrepreneurship, as well as why he thinks reparations for slavery will not help the black community.

    https://youtu.be/k0Y35EpOiFc

    Sep 14, 2015 The Police Have No Duty To Protect You: Joseph Lozito's Story

    “But we need the police to protect us!!” cry some people. Yet time and time again, as Joseph Lozito found out, courts have ruled that police have no duty to protect you.

    https://youtu.be/V6qqAuEoJXs

    He also talks about why he is a black conservative, how he think there are far more black conservatives than people realize

    That’s just pure B.S. Limbaugh and other cucks have been claiming there’s a huge number of black conservatives since about 1993 yet the they still vote Democrat 90-95% of the time.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Father Coughlin
    Politics, in multi-national polities, is tribal warfare by other means. It has been this way in the US since at least the 1880s. Although as many have pointed out, there was a tribal aspect to the civil war as well (agrarian Celts vs. every other group).

    So the term "black conservative" means nothing, politically, only socially. Blacks actually putting in volunteer hours for GOP are .001% of all hours worked, I'd imagine. Notwithstanding, there are a few blacks who are willing to be "my African American" for pay. But in the main, the black tribe is represented by the Democratic party, and it is to it they will repair. Just like they will take their own side, 95% of them at least will, in these shooting/OJ incidents.

  364. map says:
    @450.org

    This is slowly turning out to be Trayvon Martin 2.0 …
     
    Agreed, both sides are conflating all these various cases as though they are one. Each case must be decided on its own merits and each case is unique. Michael Brown, for example, was a thug who went after Darren Wilson's gun while Wilson was still in his cruiser. The evidence speaks clearly to this. This case is very different from the Michael Brown case and actually very different from the Trayvon Martin case. The McMichael's were clearly engaging in illegal behavior. The Citizen's Arrest law does not apply. That is obvious and clear. They aggressively pursued Arbery with guns drawn and they created a gauntlet to trap and corner him. They provoked this. Anything that results from that provocation is ON THEM. They created the context and their actions in creating it and how it all ended were illegal. This is an open and shut case. As far as Arbery trespassing, who hasn't looked around in a house under construction? My bro had a million dollar home being constructed in his neighborhood and when I visited him we took a tour so to speak. If two yahoos like this saw that and stalked my bro and I like they did Arbery, things could have turned out very much the same way. Looking around a home under construction is not the same thing as breaking into someone's home and looking around in their safe for diamonds. Apples and oranges.

    No, you’re a moron.

    You’re like every other leftist who argues by pretending not to know things. Abvery and Michael Brown are all the same case. It’s the case of blacks being allowed to do whatever they want as evidenced by the severe under-policing and under-imprisonment of that population, along with the media white-washing of all of their crimes.

    This is so severe, that black attacks against whites in white neighborhoods is common, to the point where you have to have these vigilantes around. Even then, they are so law-abiding that they attempted to involve the police.

    If these two are railroaded, then, in the future, all you will find is a dead body in the road and no one saying nothing.

  365. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s video of Ahmaud Arbery going into the house under construction. He strolls down the street, pauses in front of the house, looks around to see if anyone’s noticed him, and then walks into the garage. But a few minutes later he comes out the front door at a dead run, and he’s running at full speed down the street. He looks exactly like someone who just stole something and is making a high speed getaway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=311&v=7xvD7C20mzM&feature=emb_logo

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    He was winded from all the jogging and slowed to a walk to catch his breath.

    + The 911 call audio:
    5:42 / 18:54
    Ahmaud Arbery Was NOT Jogging, Caught on Camera Committing Crimes, Men Were Justified 5m16s
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    687 Comments

    joggers gonna jog

    He was jogging miles with a hammer anonymously building houses for the homeless

    Joggers are responsible for most of the crime in the US.

    Around joggers never relax

    Don't forget your timbalands when you jog.

     

  366. @anon
    Watch the vid at the 00:17 mark. https://twitter.com/i/status/1257700960618643459 Arbery runs thru the bend and sees the pickup ahead. He has discarded the hammer on the road. The car following him sees that, the assumption may then be that Arbery no longer poses a threat.
    Have a think about that. He keeps running forward, goes around the pickup, then does a sharp left turn and goes straight for the shotgun. Then the vid loses the image because the driver is loading his weapon.
    Arbery had no reason to do that, he could have just kept on running and the other 2 couldn't have done a thing.
    The bloke was just irrational, like Emmett Till Jr.
    No way he was ever going to make old bones.

    It looks very much like the guy with the gun was walking in front of vehicle to get closer to Arbery. Arbery likely saw the guy moving towards him and may have figured he was in danger and his best chance was Self defense.

    Arbery was running towards the left side of vehicle at first, but then switches to move around the other way. Obviously, he was moving out of their way, but the guy with the gun starts moving towards Arbery with an Effing gun.

    A bunch of COWARDS. And for what? Because an Unarmed guy stole something?
    Arbery comes off as the Brave one, just trying to defend himself against Armed thugs.

    This only helps the Anti-Racist’s and Leftists.

  367. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    “He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens” IF YOU ATTEMPT TO STOP ME AND YOU ARE NOT A COP,I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO KILL YOU. “If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out?” IF YOU ATTEMPT TO STOP ME AND YOU ARE NOT A COP,I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO KILL YOU. “He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived” IF YOU ATTEMPT TO STOP ME AND YOU ARE NOT A COP,I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO KILL YOU.

    • Replies: @Cowtown Rebel
    Smalley, everything in "your power" translates into you'll try to effeminately slap at me and get knocked out. You are clearly a silly, shrill b*tch. That is obvious from your all-caps, hysterical screeching. My guess is that you spend the bulk of your time on your knees orally gratifying Schwarzes. You goofy, gefilte fish gobbler. You remind me of Tim Wise. He's another emotionally unhinged bag of hot air.

    I don't go around armed, but I have been called upon to intervene in some criminal activity that was taking place where I was employed. I guess you could say that, in a sense, I am occasionally a first responder who notifies the first responders. I've been either brave or lucky, or both. But, I have also been favorably recognized by law enforcement for my efforts at deterrence.

    You might want to reexamine what happened to your fantasy Negro "Maud," before you think about trying to kill someone. He did everything in his power and got shot dead for his trouble. But, one good clonk on your noggin would be more than sufficient to neutralize you, Schlong Kopf.
    , @Former Liberal
    Grow up you brainwashed POS. Unfortunately, your fellow tribesman ( of which I also share some of that heritage) are the real problem with their control of a lying, conniving media which first deified Trayvon Martin, then Michael Brown and Freddie Gray, and now this latest entry in the Negroe Canon of Saints. I used to laugh when anti semites called Jews troublemakers and nation wreckers, but after reading tons of history, have to conclude that their assertions contain some truth.
    , @GazaPlanet
    If you're out and about committing crime and the property owners confront you armed, you'll kill them. Good to know.
  368. @anonymous
    Of course Biden had to jump in accusing the two men of cold-blooded murder. Other opportunistic politicians will follow suit. What the actual facts are don't matter when something can be misrepresented and hyped up for some advantage, financial or political. Obama did the same with his massive involvement in the Trayvon incident. The false accusers are never held responsible for their actions which only breeds more of the same. Looks like we'll get dragged through another circus yet again even as the black murder rate continues apace, mostly ignored.

    More video seems to have emerged of the jogger jogging out of some house, prior to the confrontation:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/oopsie-ajc-video-appears-show-ahmaud-arbery-entering-home-mcmichaels-street-running-spotted-neighbor/

  369. @Robert Dolan
    Uh, no, goofball.

    Any "normal" man would see the shotgun and run the other way.

    i don’t believe you have any idea what a man would do.

  370. @Genrick Yagoda
    Just want to add my voice here. I belonged to 2 running groups in Orange county, primarily the OC roadrunners club and one other whose name escapes me. Of course there were the hard core members but each club would see at least 50 people for special events.

    I ran daily. Not always with the club, but I never, not once saw a black jogging on any of my runs.

    Blacks only “run” from the law.

  371. @obwandiyag
    One of these days one of these bubbas is going to shoot you.

    Because you called him fat or looked at his fat wife or he had too many beers or he just didn't like the cut of your jib.

    What racial thing does white assholes shooting whites prove?

    It proves that big fat bubbas need more shotguns. To protect themselves from you.

    Oh… look who showed up.

  372. @WRC43
    I live in Brunswick, and here's the other side of the story that the media isn't reporting, 6 points - -

    (1.) Ahmaud Marquez Arbery is suspected of being involved in a burglary on Satilla Drive in Satilla Shores.

    You can request his record from Glynn County police by phone:

    https://glynncounty.org/1925/How-Do-I

    "..Reports are generally completed by officers and reviewed by a supervisor in 3-5 days. There is normally a charge of .10 cents per page. You can call the Glynn County Police Department headquarters records section at (912) 554-7820, or come by Monday - Friday, 8:00am - 5:00pm. We are located at 157 Public Safety Blvd, Brunswick, GA 31525, off GA Spur 25 Approximately 1 1/2 miles from I-95 exit 38.."

    Call (912) 554-7820. Just request burglary report from Satilla Drive for February, and you should get it.

    (2.) Ahmaud Marquez Arbery has priors for burglary, theft, and illegally carrying a handgun at a high school basketball game.

    (3.) Security video shows Ahmaud Marquez Arbery trespassing and lurking around a home under construction immediately before the local homeowners chased him down. Ahmaud Marquez Arbery may have been casing the place for future tool theft and/or copper wire theft, all of which has been going on recently at Satilla Shores.

    (4.) I keep looking at the video, and it still shows Ahmaud Marquez Arbery trying to take the shotgun away from the homeowner.. The first shot (off camera) could have been a warning shot. I wonder what the autopsy shows for how many times he was shot?

    (5.) What the hell was Ahmaud Marquez Arbery doing "jogging" 15 miles from his home?? Look at Satilla Shores (Aerial View from Google maps) - - you can't just stumble across the place accidentally, and that mostly white subdivision has been a target for thefts and burglaries recently. Satilla Shores is isolated, off U.S. Highway 17 (Georgia 520, Jekyll Island causeway.) Satilla Shores in an enclave that is bounded by highways, marshland, and a small creek that's a tributary of the Brunswick River; you can't just "jog there" from another subdivision, you have to go there intentionally, likely by car. After he was shot, did anybody recover his parked car?

    (6.) If the white guys are found innocent at trial (quite likely) then Brunswick will melt down. Elements of armed Black Panthers are already infiltrating Brunswick. If the trial is held in Brunswick, it's possible that jurors (especially white jurors) will feel intimidated by black threats. I can't even imagine how juror selection and protecting the jurors will work out.

    Just my two-cents, I live here, and I know what's really going on.

    What he’s suspected of prior is irrelevant to what the McMichael’s did. Was he trespassing? Yes. Did he steal anything? There is no evidence he did. Therefore, at most, at the moment of inception of all of this, for all the McMichael’s and anyone else complicit with them knew he was just trespassing. Everything else you are mentioning is after the fact knowledge and it still doesn’t justify the McMichael’s behavior. Suspicion isn’t covered under the citizen’s arrest law and neither is trespassing which is a misdemeanor. They did not have a legal right to give chase and hunt him down and that is what they did. They hunted him down. Armed & loaded. They are terrible gun owners who ruin gun rights for those who can and do use fire arms legally and responsibly. These are precisely the type of people who should be prohibited from owning weapons. They can’t be trusted to use them respsponsibly and are looking for any excuse to use them irresponsibly.

    • Replies: @450.org

    Apparently the most recent reported crime or burglary in the area was that someone had stolen a gun from an unlocked vehicle parked outside the McMichaels’ home, so it looks like they or their friends had a history of being careless with firearms, to say the least.
     
    Case in point. These two yahoos do not deserve to own guns or even one gun or any weapon sold actually. They are irresponsible and I'll add, they are now criminals. Any responsible, honest gun owner who respects gun rights and respects the law should be livid with the McMichael's. They are the least common denominator that ruins it for everybody.
  373. @Epaminondas
    Ahmed was 12 miles from home. That implies he was on a 24-mile "jog". That's a long way to run dressed in long pants and boots. He already had a rap sheet for burglary. He couldn't hold down a job and had a serious marijuana habit. His family had already expressed to authorities that he was a problem. He was seen coming out of the construction project and told to stop because police had been called. You will not get a conviction for murder based on these facts. Other witnesses will come forward. And by the way, you are a dimwit for swallowing the MSM propaganda so quickly.

    If Armed Robbery was in a mental institution where the feral beast belonged he might be alive today.
    If Jim Crow was still legal Armed Robbery would still be alive today ON HIS SIDE OF TOWN.

    Separation today … separation forever. WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

  374. @450.org
    What he's suspected of prior is irrelevant to what the McMichael's did. Was he trespassing? Yes. Did he steal anything? There is no evidence he did. Therefore, at most, at the moment of inception of all of this, for all the McMichael's and anyone else complicit with them knew he was just trespassing. Everything else you are mentioning is after the fact knowledge and it still doesn't justify the McMichael's behavior. Suspicion isn't covered under the citizen's arrest law and neither is trespassing which is a misdemeanor. They did not have a legal right to give chase and hunt him down and that is what they did. They hunted him down. Armed & loaded. They are terrible gun owners who ruin gun rights for those who can and do use fire arms legally and responsibly. These are precisely the type of people who should be prohibited from owning weapons. They can't be trusted to use them respsponsibly and are looking for any excuse to use them irresponsibly.

    Apparently the most recent reported crime or burglary in the area was that someone had stolen a gun from an unlocked vehicle parked outside the McMichaels’ home, so it looks like they or their friends had a history of being careless with firearms, to say the least.

    Case in point. These two yahoos do not deserve to own guns or even one gun or any weapon sold actually. They are irresponsible and I’ll add, they are now criminals. Any responsible, honest gun owner who respects gun rights and respects the law should be livid with the McMichael’s. They are the least common denominator that ruins it for everybody.

    • Replies: @starthorn
    I have to agree, even if Arberry was responsible for the crimes. They were idiots and their relationship with law enforcement (good ol boys) kept them from being arrested until one of the idiots decided to share the video. They should have destroyed it immediately and we'd have no armchair lawyers critiquing it.

    I'm still fussing at family and friends for #Irunwith.. it only implies they condone his behavior as far as I'm concerned. He wasn't rehabilitated he was on parole.
  375. @Epaminondas
    Ahmed was 12 miles from home. That implies he was on a 24-mile "jog". That's a long way to run dressed in long pants and boots. He already had a rap sheet for burglary. He couldn't hold down a job and had a serious marijuana habit. His family had already expressed to authorities that he was a problem. He was seen coming out of the construction project and told to stop because police had been called. You will not get a conviction for murder based on these facts. Other witnesses will come forward. And by the way, you are a dimwit for swallowing the MSM propaganda so quickly.

    Once again, it matters not how far he was from home. The focus is on the McMichael’s and what they did, not anything about Arbery before the McMichael’s spotted him. They stalked, hunted down, a person they witnessed trespassing. They had no legal right to do this. They provoked an altercation and since the elderly McMichael was a former cop, he should have known better. Shit, any half wit should know better. He let his ego and his hubris get the best of him and now he must pay the price for his sin. Considering he was a former cop, this is especially egregious on his part. What a callous idiot he is. He not only gives responsible gun owners a bad name, but he gives cops a bad name at a time when cops really don’t need anymore negative publicity. He also gives prosecutors a bad name. He’s a bad dude all the way around. What a terrible example he is and has been for his son. Now his son is going to jail because of his father’s terrible parenting. This is a Trump supporter for you. Trump emboldens these morons. He inspires this kind of behavior.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda

    They stalked, hunted down, a person they witnessed trespassing. They had no legal right to do this. They provoked an altercation and since the elderly McMichael was a former cop, he should have known better. Shit, any half wit should know better.
     
    So you know more about Georgia Law than the Georgia DA with more than 40 years experience who has prosecuted and helped to prosecute over 200 murders?

    Barnhill's letter has been linked before, and it is linked again below. You might actually spend some time reading it, since it actually quotes the sections of law that are applicable.

    This entire thing is a Trayvon redux, where the Dindu criminal is turned into the victim but racial agitators.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html
  376. @Blue Juice
    The truth is there...if you know where to look.
    1.) Ahmaud "Maude" Arbery was a 2-time convicted thief who couldn't hold down a job even though he was 25-years old. In fact there is no record of him ever having a full-time job but plenty of run-ins with the law, indulging in an expensive marijuana habit as well as threatening his father's side of the family.
    2.) However his family, extortion team and the MSM claim that the deceased was on his "daily jog". Wearing a dirty white t-shirt, cargo pants and Timberlands.
    3.) After weeks of denials his family has finally admitted that he was seen on security video rummaging through a house under rehab. But that he was not committing a burglary but was "interested in construction"! Apparently the rehab project was so interesting to an unemployed thief and "aspiring electrician" that he had to stop in the middle of his run to walk 40 feet off the street and onto and into the property of some stranger.
    4.) When confronted by a neighbor and told that police were on the way (and then identified by the McMichaels as the offender who fled the scene of burglary earlier in the week), Arbery continued on his daily jog...through someone's yard and onto a dead-end street! The McMichaels and an unknown second driver with a cellphone camera were in pursuit.
    5.) When stopped the first-time Arbery turned around and ran onto Holmes Drive where the second confrontation happened and Arbery charged, punched in the head and attempted to grab a semi-auto shotgun away from a legally armed man (Travis McMichael). Arbery was shot in the hand and again in the chest. At no time did anyone hear Arbery yell "help or stop harassing me".
    6. ) Would Arbery still be alive if he had simply stopped or ran onto the property of someone else to wait for arriving police? Was it murder or self-defense? If it was 1st degree murder why didn't the McMichaels simply shoot him from the truck or run him over? Those are the facts...you be the judge...

    None of this matters.

    Arbery was executed by two rednecks who took the law into their own hands.

    The McMichaels should just have called the police.

    Jesus.

    • Replies: @Blue Juice

    None of this matters.
     
    On that we agree. None of the facts, legalities or mitigating circumstances matter anymore. This has become a political issue. The McMichaels (and now their neighbors and friends) will not get a fair trial. They must be railroaded and sacrificed.

    Arbery was executed by two rednecks who took the law into their own hands.
     
    He wasn't "executed". Not even the prosecution can make that claim. "Maud" was killed in a struggle over Travis' shotgun. 2nd Degree Murder or Manslaughter possibly. His father didn't even fire a shot or threaten him with his revolver. He was an accomplice and more likely a bystander. Shooting him in the back or running him over would have been an execution. If they were "rednecks" the MSM would have gleefully dug up enough dirt on the McMichaels by now. If you're going to exaggerate then also admit Ahmaud was a violent thug fleeing the scene of a crime. A petty property crime but still one nonetheless.

    The McMichaels should just have called the police.
     
    They were attempting to call the police...after they snapped a picture of him. Doesn't do much good if the offender is sprinting out of sight to make good his escape then decides to attack your son instead. I would consider myself lucky to have neighbors like the McMichaels.

    Jesus.
     
    That's probably what the McMichaels said when the first shot went off.
  377. @obwandiyag
    Looks like murder by two bloated southern bubba pieces of shit to me.

    And at the beginning, it does look like the guy is jogging at a medium pace, not running away like a bat out of hell.

    But anyway, this is you people's meat, isn't it. You just love another opportunity to race-bait. The government just gave multibillionaires 5 trillion dollars and this is what you whine on about. Yeah, the danger is from un-rich joggers. The multibillionaires are your friends.

    Uh…no….that’s not the deal pal.

    The core of BOTH issues, bankers stealing trillions, and the media demonizing white people, has to do with jews.

    jewish bankers stealing trillions and the

    jewish media lying about white people.

    You should view Stefan Molyneux’s clip because it covers the facts in a comprehensive manner
    and you would be unable to refute any of it.

    By the way, he wasn’t a “jogger.”

    You don’t “jog” 21 miles from home wearing construction boots.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    If you've read one oby post, you've read them all. Nigger whinging about how the US treasury doesn't revolve around him. He's a bit of a sinophile, too, mostly because he seems to think giving niggers money is what the Chinese system is all about (it never dawns on him that the near-total absence of niggers may be a critical component in shifting world power center Asia). Why he doesn't get this money straight from the treasury in a nigger country built by nigger labor and maintained with nigger planning, well we never get to that part. It's always very clear that the money needs to be printed specifically for him in a White country, any White country really, and delivered on a silver platter for his exclusive use. It's all so tiresome.
  378. @Cowtown Rebel
    I posted this comment on a previous thread, before I realized this one existed. It is more appropriate here, so I re-posted it. Sorry for the redundancy.

    Ahmaud apparently had mental health issues and brought a gun to his high school. There were several 911 calls made by the residents in the neighborhood where he was “jogging.” He was observed peeking in the window of a house that was under construction. He refused to stop when confronted by concerned citizens. He kept changing course and running in the other direction. He became combative when they tried to detain him until the police arrived. He ended up getting shot because he was non-compliant and he tried to take the gun away from one of the men.

    If he was innocent, why didn’t he just stop and let the police come and sort everything out? If it was just a case of mistaken identity or an overly vigilant neighborhood watch, then it could have been resolved quickly and with very little difficulty. But, Negroes never want to cooperate, usually because they are guilty and don’t want to be taken into custody. So, they start in with the “why you hasslin’ me?” routine, become loud, accuse you of being a racist, and often go into flight or fight mode within an instant. They are frequently incapable of having a rational discussion or of exhibiting reasonable behavior. My guess is that he was either engaged in burglarizing, thieving, stealing, or misappropriating or was looking for an opportunity when he was confronted. He was carrying a bag. I wonder what was in it?

    So many unanswered questions. It’s obvious that the law enforcement officials initially believed that the father and son acted accordingly. A third man was with them, but it appears that he isn’t facing any charges. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say. I hope the neighbors rally behind their watchmen and force the unruly Negroes from their midst, like in Pasadena, Texas.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pasadena-news/article/Pasadena-protest-over-slain-burglars-heats-up-1809539.php

    “because he was non-compliant”

    “Noncompliant” with whom?

    A pair of armed rednecks in a truck?

    This is truly an Orwellian word and idea.

    You don’t like something, call the police.

    Don’t expect your fellow citizens to be “compliant” with you.

    The police always state: Do not touch another person. Call the police.

    • Replies: @schnellandine

    The police always state: Do not touch another person. Call the police.
     
    That isn't what GA law says, so… what was your point? Oh, you were pretending that cop advice supersedes law. Okay, it doesn't. Settled.
    , @Stewart M Schwartz
    "Don’t expect your fellow citizens to be “compliant” with you." EXACTLY !!
    , @starthorn
    One was former police with a history of dealing with this guy. Lots to this story most are knee jerking instead of looking at everything.
    , @Cowtown Rebel
    Actually, there have been plenty of instances where citizens have stopped a crime in progress and the Police have thanked them for their involvement. I've told several police officers, with all due respect, when seconds count they are only minutes away. They have agreed that they simply cannot be everywhere at once. You and Schwartz are the type that would stand aside and watch a woman get raped. You might call the police if you could manage to hide from the perpetrator while doing so. But, more than likely, you would just use your cell phone to film the attack for your future enjoyment.

    I am a little unkempt and I generally dress down. From time to time I go for a walk. There have been a couple of occasions when I have been suspected by someone of being involved in some sort of mischief. Whether walking through an unfamiliar or remote area, or, once when I was exploring a derelict section of downtown: There was a sign on the roof of a building that indicated an antique store was located there. I walked around looking for the entrance and realized the business was vacant, when I was confronted by a security guard who insinuated that I was trying to break in. He began to threaten to call the police and I told him to go ahead and call them. He just told me not to come back; which was unnecessary, because I had no intention of returning. Although, I may have felt a little indignant, I didn't try to run away and I certainly didn't try to attack the individuals who wanted to question me. I just responded to whatever concerns they had, no matter how trivial, until they were satisfied that I had no dubious motives. That is being rational and cooperative, and those qualities have enabled me to avoid or deescalate numerous situations that could have proved to be far more troublesome had I not been endowed with them.

    There are plenty of other non-interventionists like you who bear witness to assaults, robberies and even murders without lifting a finger to assist the victims. You are ball less bastards, who are just envious that someone else possesses the testosterone that you lack.
  379. in the U.S., joggers commit 85% of interracial violent crime, 550k incidents per year

    • LOL: bruce county
  380. Ron Unz:

    Slow news day?

    What is this garbage doing here?

    • Replies: @mcohen
    agree.it also attracts flies
    , @anon
    Rotting garbage from the House -Phillipino against those “Negroes” getting out of the House .


    From false intellectual prostitution to real prostitution one is not a stretch . May be she should try her luck there .
  381. @gaston julia

    Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight
     
    He must have X-ray eyes or some kind of special District Attorney vision training. Personally, I've been trying for 40 years and I still can't see through trucks.

    You don’t have to “see through trucks”.

    All that is necessary is to observe that Arbrey was past the vehicle on the right hand side, and could have continued on this path and escaped. But instead Arbrey turned 90o to the left and attacked Travis.

    How would “see through trucks” change any of this?

  382. @450.org
    I have never contended it's a cold-blooded murder. To me, it's second degree murder. Anyone who is an earnest and true gun rights activist would and should agree. You want gun rights, then hold yourself responsible and take accountability when someone or anyone abuses those rights as the McMichael's have done. The lynching terminology Arbery's father is using is hyperbole and only serves to obscure a constructive discussion of this case.

    As someone mentioned above, looking around a house under construction is technically trespassing and a misdemeanor. As is running a stop sign late at night when there is no traffic. Same difference as far as I'm concerned. No harm no foul. These two yahoos were grossly negligent in regard to the use of their firearms and what they did was illegal in every way. They predicated this deadly encounter. They should have reported this to the police and left it at that. Watched him perhaps, but at a distance without stalking him.

    They provoked an altercation. How can anyone deny this? You point a gun at me, you're provoking an altercation. I now believe you intend to kill me and I must do what I must do to defend myself and save my life. If someone or anyone is crazy enough to do what the McMichael's did, it means they are irrational and cowering before them or complying with them is no guarantee your life will be spared.

    Remember, when Arbery makes that sharp left and goes towards the son holding the shotgun it's only after they have hunted him like a wild boar and set up a gauntlet for him. He's now of the mindset that they intend to do him harm and they are not going to let up. He has to defend himself. If he runs into the woods to avoid getting shot, those defending the McMichael's in this comment section would then say he ran into the woods because he was clearly guilty of something. The fact he didn't run speaks to him not being guilty of anything aside from trespassing to look around at new construction.

    As someone mentioned above, looking around a house under construction is technically trespassing and a misdemeanor. As is running a stop sign late at night when there is no traffic. Same difference as far as I’m concerned.

    It’s not often that an earnest and true gun rights supporter equates daytime checking out of a construction site without permission of the owners with late night stop sign running with no traffic.

  383. This article needs to be on a white supremacy site—This is a smear from a thoroughly discredited girl who has pushed the most vile right wing/fascist nonsense for years. This site was at one time a source of real intelligent analysis. For some reason it has turned hysterical.

  384. Something about all of this reminds me of the Jussie Smollet HOAX, only a real person was murdered. The Democrats have lied, race-baited and hoaxed so much, even from the beginning I thought something about this did not seem right! I hope those 2 men get a fair trial. If they did it, then justice, but if they did not and this was just another King-Merritt HOAX, then I hope they are released and King-Merritt meet the same fate as Jussie!

  385. @Longfisher
    Gosh and given the title, I thought this article would expose evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the now dear departed black man before the shooting which would have established a justification for the pursuit and confrontation of him by others.

    Nope.

    All I got was innuendo about a couple of three others who have a checkered pasts. It wasn't worth my time to read this article.

    Did you miss something? Did you miss the part about King and Merritt being involved in other hoaxes, and their obvious hatred of White people and police? Have you since come back to read any of the comments? Sounds like there’s more to this story, and this is only the beginning! I think sometimes SJW don’t want the truth, just want their hatred or racial biased stroked!

  386. @Jeff Stryker
    Last I heard Africans were experiencing some racism from the Bongs in Calcutta.

    There is so much hatred in the World! There’s a lot of people going to be burning in Hell! I’d like to hear how people justify it before God!

    • Replies: @bruce county
    Im sure many would rather burn in hell than kneel before the left wing overlords and their negro pets.
  387. @Genrick Yagoda
    We get it, too, Moishe.

    How many JDF trolls are on this site at one time, pray tell?

    You tell me, shlomo.

  388. @Really No Shit
    A schlemiel telling a schlimazel...

    Sorry shlomo, I don’t speak your language. What is that in English?

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
    Perhaps, it would be better to communicate in polski ... tak?
  389. @obwandiyag
    Looks like murder by two bloated southern bubba pieces of shit to me.

    And at the beginning, it does look like the guy is jogging at a medium pace, not running away like a bat out of hell.

    But anyway, this is you people's meat, isn't it. You just love another opportunity to race-bait. The government just gave multibillionaires 5 trillion dollars and this is what you whine on about. Yeah, the danger is from un-rich joggers. The multibillionaires are your friends.

    I like how c olored boys and their white cuckfluffers whine “Don’t stereotype us-waaah we’re not feral violent beasts. Ignore the facts”. But you’re sure quick to talk schitt about bloated Southern bubba pieces of schitt etc. Cletus , MAGAbillies–You all are quick with the BS.

    You even say “You people” I already know that’s how your kind feels. I hope some of the brain dead whites read that and wake up. Time for “us people” to stand up. Don’t want to get shot? Stop committing crimes. Phuck this schitt. We’ve put up with this crap for far too long.

    This guy was a criminal. They tried to make a citizen’s arrest. the creep attacked them. The good guys defended themselves.

  390. @Cowtown Rebel
    Really? I see two Heroes on The Front Lines of The Battle against The Black Plague. The only Trash around here is YOU!

    “Really? I see two Heroes on The Front Lines of The Battle against The Black Plague.”

    IE: “Us like-it-up-the-buttskys defend our own”. Well, there you have it… 😀

    • Replies: @Cowtown Rebel
    Your Mama likes it up the Buttsky from you, every Negro in town, and any Mexican that wonders by the house. She even let the family dog have at it. That is how she bore you from the mongoloid father that you never knew. She crapped you out, you wormy pile of dung. And, there you go....
  391. “• Disagree: Anti_barabas_ite”

    Importing immigrants to replace citizens —

    I disagree with that as well.

  392. Boring idiotic tedious comments from know nothing anti-white bigots.

    As I keep saying……watch the Molyneux clip and he covers ALL of it.

    The father was a cop for many DECADES, had dealt with AA before.

    That’s right morons.

    Citizen’s arrest is valid and lawful, and the former cop knows the law.

    AA was NOT “jogging.” He was too far from home for jogging. There is tape of him invading a home under construction. Neighbors spotted him….he RAN.

    And he RAN right past the former cop’s house. The cop who’d dealt with him back when he got caught stealing a TV a few years prior (and apparently nothing was done about it)
    The former cop also knew about AA’s gun conviction from years ago as well.

    So…..they had history.

    AA had a few choices:

    He could run away.
    He could stop and talk to them.
    He could attack the man holding the shotgun.

    Personally, I would not have chosen to attack the man with the shotgun.

    But that’s just me.

    I’m not an unemployed druggie burglar loser criminal invading a home to see what I can steal.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    There is tape of him invading a home under construction
     
    Why? In the hope workers left power tools? What's the black market price of Tyvek?
    , @bruce county
    I watched that entire Molyneux video. He breaks it down perfectly and logically without prejudice. Just the facts. Thanks for posting it. I sent it to several liberal "friends" they refused to listen to it. This is our burden.. our own race hates us.
    North America is doomed if we continue to let them control the narrative.
  393. @Jonathan Mason

    However, even if the jogger was guilty of something, we don’t know yet, were the men justified in acting as vigilantes which resulted in the joggers death?
     
    If they had shot him with a cell phone camera, that would have probably been enough to identify him as a suspect to crimes and burglaries. Apparently the most recent reported crime or burglary in the area was that someone had stolen a gun from an unlocked vehicle parked outside the McMichaels' home, so it looks like they or their friends had a history of being careless with firearms, to say the least.

    I don't think that they set out to kill the guy, but they were trying to act macho and were carrying guns, and as often happens in such situations, things get out of control. Maybe they had had a beer or two, I don't know. Things sometimes get out of control with police officers too, but at least police officers usually have some kind of rudimentary training in dealing with mentally disturbed people.

    but at least police officers usually have some kind of rudimentary training in dealing with mentally disturbed people.

    Yep. If only one of the shooters had been a cop for, oh, 7 years or so, you’d have been ready to sign off on the matter. Oh well.

    Damn. Here I am talking nonsense. The father was a cop for years! Silly me you.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    The father was a cop for years! Silly me you
     
    Yes, but I doubt whether he had been a cop on the street any time recently, and probably what training he had was many years earlier.

    People read a lot into the video, but it is pretty hard to know what really happened because there is no sound and you don't know what was said and by whom. Some people think a shot was fired before the victim tried to grab the gun, and if that is true then any theories about him trying to steal the gun go out the window.

  394. @John Nada
    Given the relatively vast number of white people that are brutally murdered by black men lacking even the slightest trace of righteous motivation - crimes that are effectively ignored by the MSM - why should I give a damn about the death of Ahmaud Arbery? Why should I, a white male, care one bit even if the two white males were looking for an excuse to shoot him? I certainly don't condone it if that were the case. At one point earlier in my life I might have thought Arbery's death tragic, even if his jogging story was phony and it was just another crime spree day for him. Now I couldn't care less. It's obvious that this is the media's new Trayvon Martin. MSM propaganda has it that black men receive disproportionate condemnation and punishment for every little thing they do, but what I see is exactly the opposite. Any time a black man is killed by white males, or even harassed by "white Hispanics" (like the new cause celebre involving Bronx police and an "innocent" black bystander), that black man has his case splashed across the headlines in every major news media source and is given more the benefit of doubt than he usually deserves. In contrast, consider the cases of white men and women murdered by black men like...well, just go ahead and read any piece by Paul Kersey. Whether Arbery deserved it, or was asking for it, or died unjustly at the end of white racist gun barrels, I just do not care. I won't care until the MSM treats all similar murders involving victims of all races with equal empathy, outrage, and scrutiny.

    Given the relatively vast number of white people that are brutally murdered by black men

    That would be about 400-500 a year, in a country of 200 million whites, and that includes domestic violence, drunk driving vehicular homicide, and criminal cohesion gone wrong, etc.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

    Why do you think Big Curse has to include so many, black on black,black on Asian and Hispanic, and “let’s remember that murder in 2013…” posts in his weekly journal?

  395. @Achmed E. Newman
    What helps with all this, Mrs. Malkin, is NOT BEING HOOKED UP TO TV. It's been 20 years and counting. Well, I mean is, it would help if it were not just me and a few others. Paying for a TV signal in any manner is just encouraging these people.

    John Prine opines:

    "Blow up your TV..."


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BofvfVPFbiM

    John Denver’s cover was more comprehensible.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I am listening to it for the 1st time right now, Reg. It's much more polished and it's got that banjo. Well, you know John Denver was all for moving out to the country.

    I'm still partial to John Prine, as he is a great songwriter, but will admit that many sing his songs better than he It probably depends on which you heard first.

    Daddy won't you take me back to Muhlenburg County,
    down by the Green River where paradise lay...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RigGigPq4U
  396. @Ko
    Any normal man would defend himself against another man suddenly confronting him while holding a rifle in an aggressive manner.

    Not Bobby Dolan.

  397. @Velvet65
    There is so much hatred in the World! There's a lot of people going to be burning in Hell! I'd like to hear how people justify it before God!

    Im sure many would rather burn in hell than kneel before the left wing overlords and their negro pets.

    • Replies: @Truth
    That can be arranged...
  398. @Robert Dolan
    Boring idiotic tedious comments from know nothing anti-white bigots.

    As I keep saying......watch the Molyneux clip and he covers ALL of it.

    The father was a cop for many DECADES, had dealt with AA before.

    That's right morons.

    Citizen's arrest is valid and lawful, and the former cop knows the law.

    AA was NOT "jogging." He was too far from home for jogging. There is tape of him invading a home under construction. Neighbors spotted him....he RAN.

    And he RAN right past the former cop's house. The cop who'd dealt with him back when he got caught stealing a TV a few years prior (and apparently nothing was done about it)
    The former cop also knew about AA's gun conviction from years ago as well.

    So.....they had history.

    AA had a few choices:

    He could run away.
    He could stop and talk to them.
    He could attack the man holding the shotgun.

    Personally, I would not have chosen to attack the man with the shotgun.

    But that's just me.

    I'm not an unemployed druggie burglar loser criminal invading a home to see what I can steal.

    There is tape of him invading a home under construction

    Why? In the hope workers left power tools? What’s the black market price of Tyvek?

  399. @Anti_barabas_ite
    Robbery/tresspass is out as a reason to shoot a "jogger"

    Would cutting a white womans head off in central park be ok not to wait for officialdom to react?

    Cracker should have let this "jogger" come back and kill them with the guns he stole earlier in the year...

    You "joggers" are pathetic.

    Robbery/tresspass is out as a reason to shoot a “jogger”

    What did he rob from an unbuilt house (allegedly)? Was he going to carry the copper piping 12 miles back to his house in his cargo shorts?

    • Replies: @anti_barabas_ite
    from the photos, its a rehabbed house...almost indistinguishable from "lived in" houses.

    who knows wtf this jogger was doing or going to do with his jogging cargo shorts? you I guess understand his motivation for trespassing lurking stalking casing...

    bad choices can lead to dastardly conclusions, anybody that reads "the root" or hears NPR would know that jogger don't go to whitey land and innocently look around lest you be shot for nuttin.

    the pre frontal cortex development shows in this joggers case. cracker interacting with joggers is bound to be bad outcome.
    moral of story social distancing from joggers ALWAYS
  400. @Robert Dolan
    Boring idiotic tedious comments from know nothing anti-white bigots.

    As I keep saying......watch the Molyneux clip and he covers ALL of it.

    The father was a cop for many DECADES, had dealt with AA before.

    That's right morons.

    Citizen's arrest is valid and lawful, and the former cop knows the law.

    AA was NOT "jogging." He was too far from home for jogging. There is tape of him invading a home under construction. Neighbors spotted him....he RAN.

    And he RAN right past the former cop's house. The cop who'd dealt with him back when he got caught stealing a TV a few years prior (and apparently nothing was done about it)
    The former cop also knew about AA's gun conviction from years ago as well.

    So.....they had history.

    AA had a few choices:

    He could run away.
    He could stop and talk to them.
    He could attack the man holding the shotgun.

    Personally, I would not have chosen to attack the man with the shotgun.

    But that's just me.

    I'm not an unemployed druggie burglar loser criminal invading a home to see what I can steal.

    I watched that entire Molyneux video. He breaks it down perfectly and logically without prejudice. Just the facts. Thanks for posting it. I sent it to several liberal “friends” they refused to listen to it. This is our burden.. our own race hates us.
    North America is doomed if we continue to let them control the narrative.

  401. @WRC43
    I live in Brunswick, and here's the other side of the story that the media isn't reporting, 6 points - -

    (1.) Ahmaud Marquez Arbery is suspected of being involved in a burglary on Satilla Drive in Satilla Shores.

    You can request his record from Glynn County police by phone:

    https://glynncounty.org/1925/How-Do-I

    "..Reports are generally completed by officers and reviewed by a supervisor in 3-5 days. There is normally a charge of .10 cents per page. You can call the Glynn County Police Department headquarters records section at (912) 554-7820, or come by Monday - Friday, 8:00am - 5:00pm. We are located at 157 Public Safety Blvd, Brunswick, GA 31525, off GA Spur 25 Approximately 1 1/2 miles from I-95 exit 38.."

    Call (912) 554-7820. Just request burglary report from Satilla Drive for February, and you should get it.

    (2.) Ahmaud Marquez Arbery has priors for burglary, theft, and illegally carrying a handgun at a high school basketball game.

    (3.) Security video shows Ahmaud Marquez Arbery trespassing and lurking around a home under construction immediately before the local homeowners chased him down. Ahmaud Marquez Arbery may have been casing the place for future tool theft and/or copper wire theft, all of which has been going on recently at Satilla Shores.

    (4.) I keep looking at the video, and it still shows Ahmaud Marquez Arbery trying to take the shotgun away from the homeowner.. The first shot (off camera) could have been a warning shot. I wonder what the autopsy shows for how many times he was shot?

    (5.) What the hell was Ahmaud Marquez Arbery doing "jogging" 15 miles from his home?? Look at Satilla Shores (Aerial View from Google maps) - - you can't just stumble across the place accidentally, and that mostly white subdivision has been a target for thefts and burglaries recently. Satilla Shores is isolated, off U.S. Highway 17 (Georgia 520, Jekyll Island causeway.) Satilla Shores in an enclave that is bounded by highways, marshland, and a small creek that's a tributary of the Brunswick River; you can't just "jog there" from another subdivision, you have to go there intentionally, likely by car. After he was shot, did anybody recover his parked car?

    (6.) If the white guys are found innocent at trial (quite likely) then Brunswick will melt down. Elements of armed Black Panthers are already infiltrating Brunswick. If the trial is held in Brunswick, it's possible that jurors (especially white jurors) will feel intimidated by black threats. I can't even imagine how juror selection and protecting the jurors will work out.

    Just my two-cents, I live here, and I know what's really going on.

    After he was shot, did anybody recover his parked car?

    Same question I’ve been wondering, and nobody’s discussing it, appears. Why do you think that might be? I’d bet a 6-pack the answer isn’t kind to the doctrine of joggerism.

    If the white guys are found innocent

    Trials taken to finish generally return guilty or not guilty. The distinction’s worth noting. One in a state of non-innocence can rightfully be found not guilty, though good luck explaining that to an average jogger.

    Keep us informed of the local real news, and check 6.

  402. @Skeptikal
    "because he was non-compliant"

    "Noncompliant" with whom?

    A pair of armed rednecks in a truck?

    This is truly an Orwellian word and idea.

    You don't like something, call the police.

    Don't expect your fellow citizens to be "compliant" with you.

    The police always state: Do not touch another person. Call the police.

    The police always state: Do not touch another person. Call the police.

    That isn’t what GA law says, so… what was your point? Oh, you were pretending that cop advice supersedes law. Okay, it doesn’t. Settled.

  403. This is so strange…

    Just weeks ago blacks were mad with (landlords) in New York and things were getting very heated. They actually had/have legitimate grievances.

    But strangely, the narrative has shifted from that to anger towards “southern whites”, gun control, and “looking for answers”.

    Sure is nice when you control the mainstream media. What a lovely people.

  404. @450.org
    I have never contended it's a cold-blooded murder. To me, it's second degree murder. Anyone who is an earnest and true gun rights activist would and should agree. You want gun rights, then hold yourself responsible and take accountability when someone or anyone abuses those rights as the McMichael's have done. The lynching terminology Arbery's father is using is hyperbole and only serves to obscure a constructive discussion of this case.

    As someone mentioned above, looking around a house under construction is technically trespassing and a misdemeanor. As is running a stop sign late at night when there is no traffic. Same difference as far as I'm concerned. No harm no foul. These two yahoos were grossly negligent in regard to the use of their firearms and what they did was illegal in every way. They predicated this deadly encounter. They should have reported this to the police and left it at that. Watched him perhaps, but at a distance without stalking him.

    They provoked an altercation. How can anyone deny this? You point a gun at me, you're provoking an altercation. I now believe you intend to kill me and I must do what I must do to defend myself and save my life. If someone or anyone is crazy enough to do what the McMichael's did, it means they are irrational and cowering before them or complying with them is no guarantee your life will be spared.

    Remember, when Arbery makes that sharp left and goes towards the son holding the shotgun it's only after they have hunted him like a wild boar and set up a gauntlet for him. He's now of the mindset that they intend to do him harm and they are not going to let up. He has to defend himself. If he runs into the woods to avoid getting shot, those defending the McMichael's in this comment section would then say he ran into the woods because he was clearly guilty of something. The fact he didn't run speaks to him not being guilty of anything aside from trespassing to look around at new construction.

    You are so full of shit.

    There was no illegal activity save maybe the son stepping out of the truck with a shotgun at his side until Arbery charged and made physical contact. This father/son duo could have followed Arbery around all day in their truck yelling at him to stop. This is not illegal. They could have stopped on the side of the road and yelled at him to stop fifty times throughout the day. This is not illegal. Stepping out of one’s vehicle with a shotgun MAY BE an open-carry violation, but unless one is aiming it at an individual, it can’t be considered “force” if open-carry is legal.

    The first illegal act was trespassing by Arbery. The second illegal act was Arbery’s physical assault of the son.

    It’s clear as day on the video.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  405. @450.org
    Once again, it matters not how far he was from home. The focus is on the McMichael's and what they did, not anything about Arbery before the McMichael's spotted him. They stalked, hunted down, a person they witnessed trespassing. They had no legal right to do this. They provoked an altercation and since the elderly McMichael was a former cop, he should have known better. Shit, any half wit should know better. He let his ego and his hubris get the best of him and now he must pay the price for his sin. Considering he was a former cop, this is especially egregious on his part. What a callous idiot he is. He not only gives responsible gun owners a bad name, but he gives cops a bad name at a time when cops really don't need anymore negative publicity. He also gives prosecutors a bad name. He's a bad dude all the way around. What a terrible example he is and has been for his son. Now his son is going to jail because of his father's terrible parenting. This is a Trump supporter for you. Trump emboldens these morons. He inspires this kind of behavior.

    They stalked, hunted down, a person they witnessed trespassing. They had no legal right to do this. They provoked an altercation and since the elderly McMichael was a former cop, he should have known better. Shit, any half wit should know better.

    So you know more about Georgia Law than the Georgia DA with more than 40 years experience who has prosecuted and helped to prosecute over 200 murders?

    Barnhill’s letter has been linked before, and it is linked again below. You might actually spend some time reading it, since it actually quotes the sections of law that are applicable.

    This entire thing is a Trayvon redux, where the Dindu criminal is turned into the victim but racial agitators.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6884019-Waycross-DA-Letter-on-Arbery-Shooting-Jp.html

    • Thanks: Blue Juice
    • Replies: @Hans
    I think Malkin has made it clear they are professionals and not merely agitators.
  406. @vot tak
    Sorry shlomo, I don't speak your language. What is that in English?

    Perhaps, it would be better to communicate in polski … tak?

    • Replies: @vot tak
    I have a better idea, shlomo. How about you ignore my comments and go back to surfing your favorite bookmarked site: chickswithdicks.com. :-D
  407. @KenH

    He also talks about why he is a black conservative, how he think there are far more black conservatives than people realize
     
    That's just pure B.S. Limbaugh and other cucks have been claiming there's a huge number of black conservatives since about 1993 yet the they still vote Democrat 90-95% of the time.

    Politics, in multi-national polities, is tribal warfare by other means. It has been this way in the US since at least the 1880s. Although as many have pointed out, there was a tribal aspect to the civil war as well (agrarian Celts vs. every other group).

    So the term “black conservative” means nothing, politically, only socially. Blacks actually putting in volunteer hours for GOP are .001% of all hours worked, I’d imagine. Notwithstanding, there are a few blacks who are willing to be “my African American” for pay. But in the main, the black tribe is represented by the Democratic party, and it is to it they will repair. Just like they will take their own side, 95% of them at least will, in these shooting/OJ incidents.

  408. @Ko
    and the fact that you call people who hold opinions other than your own, "trolls" makes you look like a woketard.

    LOL, Comrade Ko! Keep spewing. It’s good for your carpal tunnel vision.

  409. Georgia Attorney General Requests Federal Investigation Into Ahmaud Arbery Case

    https://sputniknews.com/us/202005101079265747-georgia-attorney-general-requests-federal-investigation-into-ahmaud-arbery-case/

    “Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr has requested the US Department of Justice to investigate the handling of the Ahmaud Arbery case by local prosecutors. Arbery’s murder was committed on 23 February, but saw public outcry after a video of the shooting emerged online.

    “We are committed to a complete and transparent review of how the Ahmaud Arbery case was handled from the outset. The family, the community and the state of Georgia deserve answers, and we will work with others in law enforcement at the state and federal level to find those answers”, Carr said.

    According to a statement released by the Attorney General’s office, the ​request to the US Department of Justice “includes, but is not limited by, investigation of the communications and discussions by and between the Office of the District Attorney of the Brunswick Judicial Circuit and the Office of the District Attorney of the Waycross Judicial Circuit related to this case”.

    Earlier on Saturday, Carr tweeted that he would handle the case himself.”

    • Replies: @450.org
    Good grief, this will accomplish nothing, certainly not justice. Under Barr, the DOJ is now the DOI, or the Department of Injustice if you will or better yet, the Department of Corruption (DOC). The DOC would immediately exonerate the McMichael's and Trump will award them the Medal of Freedom like he did BlimpBlow and he would implore all racist gun owners to hunt down blacks wherever they may be and gun them down in order to cleanse America of the invisible virus that's a hoax but still plagues America nonetheless.
  410. @JimDandy
    So, citizen's arrest with probably cause is not legal in Georgia?

    no,i don’t believe that is anywhere.and if it is ,it shouldn’t be.I REPEAT:IF ANY ONE ATTEMPTS TO STOP ME ,AND THEY ARE NOT A COP I WILL DO EVERY THING IN MY POWER TO KILL YOU !!

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    You aren't gonna kill anybody grandpa. You are totally full of shit.

    I've had three occasions where somebody pulled a gun on me.....and I wisely got the fuck away from them each time.

    That's why I'm still on planet earth.

    You charge a dude with a shotgun and grab it and try to pull it away.....his finger's on the trigger and it's going to go off.

    Armed Robbery should have run, or he could have simply stopped to talk to the former cop and his son.

    But Armed Robbery was a low IQ high testosterone dipshit and he thought he could bring fists to a gunfight.

    Not. too. bright.
    , @thordaddy
    Define “stop” and then real eyes that if it does not involve actual physical force then your willingness to kill means you are now “terminable without consent.”

    So in mistaking a verbal command for a physical act and then reacting erroneously with physical violence, you have opened yourself up to be legally killed.

    This is exactly what happened and why these two weren’t arrested until the cuckle couldn’t do anything butt buckle.
  411. @Skeptikal
    "because he was non-compliant"

    "Noncompliant" with whom?

    A pair of armed rednecks in a truck?

    This is truly an Orwellian word and idea.

    You don't like something, call the police.

    Don't expect your fellow citizens to be "compliant" with you.

    The police always state: Do not touch another person. Call the police.

    “Don’t expect your fellow citizens to be “compliant” with you.” EXACTLY !!

  412. Crooked DAs and crooked cops colluding together, just your typical american town/city.

    Ahmaud Arbery murder raises long-standing issues with Glynn County DA’s handling of cases

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/georgia/ahmaud-arbery-murder-raises-long-standing-issues-with-glynn-county-das-handling-cases/CZNCBJJY35HDLOFQGQYYNACCG4/

    “ATLANTA — The Ahmaud Arbery murder case is bringing back some faces and agencies that have been the subject of Channel 2 Action News and Atlanta Journal-Constitution investigations over the years that have centered around corruption and misconduct investigations.

    For the past five years, we have done some deep reporting in the same place Arbery was murdered. It involves the same players, the same problems and now, growing outrage.

    “When I first saw with this case happening in Glynn County, I immediately thought back to other cases where the DA’s office and police department collaborated a little too closely with each other to cover up for some of the officer’s misconduct,” attorney and legal analyst Esther Panitch said.

    “My reaction was simply, ‘Here we go again,’” said attorney Bill Atkins, who represented the family of Caroline Small, an unarmed woman killed by two Glynn County police officers. Much of the evidence in the case was made public by the joint investigation between Channel 2 and the AJC.

    Now, two county officials allege Johnson’s office blocked the immediate arrests of her former investigator and his son after Ahmaud Arbery’s killing and before she recused herself from the case.

    “After multiple calls back and forth, the investigator was told by her (Johnson’) assistant, a man named Rocky Bridges, that no arrests were to be made,” said Dr. Peter Murphy on Friday.

    Murphy is a Glynn County commissioner who told Channel 2 investigative reporter Nicole Carr that he went straight to the interim police chief this week, after seeing the viral video of Arbery’s murder.

    In 2015, our investigation revealed a deal that Glynn County District Attorney Jackie Johnson made with the officers responsible for the 2010 fatal shooting of Caroline Small, an unarmed woman shot through the windshield of her car by two Glynn County police officers.

    Four former prosecutors from Johnson’s office said she protected those officers.

    In Small’s case, our investigation found Johnson agreed not to show the grand jury the murder indictment she’d drafted.

    Records show she’d already given the officers’ attorneys all of the evidence and allowed the officers’ department to present a factually inaccurate animation they created showing Small’s car escaping through a gap and running over the officers.

    After that, there was another incident in 2018, involving Corey Sasser, one of the officers from the Small shooting.

    “They then again went out of their way to protect (former officer) Corey Sasser from his own actions instead of protecting two people who were pleading with them to put him behind bars, and what happened? He executed them,” Small’s family attorney Bill Atkins said, referring to what happened next.”

    • Agree: Grahamsno(G64)
  413. Commissioner: District Attorney blocked arrests of father, son in Ahmaud Arbery case

    https://www.news4jax.com/news/georgia/2020/05/09/commissioner-district-attorney-blocked-arrests-of-father-son-in-ahmaud-arbery-case/

    “Investigators with Glynn County Police Department had cellphone video of Ahmaud Arbery being chased down and killed by two armed men on Feb. 23, the day the deadly shooting happened, but arrests weren’t made for more than two months.

    The delayed response triggered activists to ask for the resignation of Brunswick Judicial District Attorney Jackie Johnson, chanting, “Jackie got to go” through medical masks on Friday.

    Glynn County Commissioner J. Peter Murphy said in a conversation with Chief Powell that he learned District Attorney Jackie Johnson blocked an investigator with the Glynn County Police Department from arresting the former district attorney investigator and his son the day of the shooting.

    “Basically she [the investigator] was told to stand down, i.e., there are to be no arrests today,” Murphy said.

    Waycross District Attorney George Barnhill was assigned the case next, but he had to recuse himself later after Arbery’s mother discovered his son also worked for the Brunswick District Attorney’s Office where McMichael worked.”