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Pride.

It prevents people from admitting they were wrong about Covid and the jab.

A strawman argument that those who rejected the jab are alarmed by the very old passing away when they’ve been drawing attention to the rise of death or disability among the young.

Logic such as this belongs on CNN or Huff Post.

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/

Maybe not them.

But definitely these:
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-those-who-died-suddenly-545

Charlie Munger used a telegraph. He was a kid in the 1920s and 30s. The telegraph was still a means of communication in some places. Maybe he only sent or received a message or two when he was a kid, but he definitely used a telegraph. The telephone had not yet replaced the telegraph in the early 30s. Charlie Munger used a telegraph.

You must have a broad definition of celebrity.

Uhhh, they’re of the political world you are most familiar with based on your age and they’re grouped around an age a decade to two older than you, when people do die the most? Ya think?

Not the vax though. It picks more on the young and the restless and the stupid, those who took it mindlessly or out of cowardice.

One guy said, for him, it was the Kiss(inger?) of death. Get up, everybody’s gonna move their feet. Get down, everybody’s gonna leave their seat. Gonna lose your mind in LA, Vax City!

No one thinks much about it when older people die. When young athletes with no history of drug abuse die of heart attacks, it is most likely the Covid “vaccines.”

This has gotten me thinking about hospice care and worrying that some imperious, officious, obese “nurse” will some day deny my request for Doritos because those are unhealthful – – they would raise my cholesterol. I would not want my last cell to sign-out contemplating Jello in front of me.

My local conservative radio station has an annual contest in which you submit a list of names consisting of people you expect to die during the upcoming year. I guess last December everybody who entered had names such as these on their list; the winner will be someone who was uniquely prescient and lucky.

genius…

Have you noticed all the unexpected celebrity deaths this week? Henry Kissinger, Shane MacGowan, Charlie Munger, and now Sandra Day O’Connor.

Don’t forget that other prominent jurist, with a little brother in the White House, who passed on the Ides of last month:

Maryanne Trump Barry and Donald Trump Seem to Lead Different Lives—But Their Stories Are Intertwined

Should they not give their refusal,
the jurists you carefully choose’ll
serve you in affinity.
But in time, consanguinity
eventually leads to recusal.

Weren’t they OLD?

With the exception of Shane, they all lived full productive lives

Father Time/Grim Reaper is undefeated. The vax is just his McGuffin.

Three of the four celebs were really old. Kissinger 100, Munger 99, Sandra Day O’Connor 93.

“This has gotten me thinking about hospice care and worrying that some imperious, officious, obese ‘nurse’ will some day deny my request for Doritos because those are unhealthful…”

I’m pretty sure they let you eat whatever you hanker for in a hospice.

With the exception of Shane

I took the bait. Admittedly. – Shane MacGowan was a fellow-Irishman of the Bedckett kind: Fail again, fail better. Mind you: Samuel Beckett meant that as a compliment. Irish artists live in their own universe; it is wider – more spaced out compared to the universes of other people.

Things fall apart. The center does not hold.

Swedish Study:
Unvaccinated Suffer Three Times More Often from Post-Covid than the Vaccinated.

In the present study, we used population based survival data of 589 722 individuals, censoring at both vaccination and reinfection, and report vaccine effectiveness separately for any dose, one dose, two doses, and three or more doses. Earlier studies have generally lacked a clear definition of PCC, and symptoms have often been self-reported,29303133 whereas we used register based clinical diagnoses of PCC as the outcome. 

Covid-19 vaccine effectiveness against post-covid-19 condition among 589 722 individuals in Sweden: population based cohort study | The BMJ

https://www.bmj.com/content/383/bmj-2023-076990

Btw:. Interesting what the Amish say about Long Covid: Long Covid kenne ma goar nit! – Long covid is unknown amongst us.

No, Steve, it must be KOVID!

But talking about old celebrities dying is a good distraction in order to head of discussion of all the young anonymous people dying of weird heart related issues

Samuel Beckett is not considered Irish here, although he is everywhere else, including Ireland.

He went to school with my great-uncle. I have a group photo of them in tennis and cricket whites somewhere on my hard drive.

Probably some really expensive cutting edge pharmaceutical drug came out a few months ago and they all began taking it at the same time.

Must be the vax.

I know this is Steve’s little joke because he knows government authorities are always right and therefore as a Public Intellectual it’s his job to tell everyone how the vax is a safe and effective miracle of science. But the experimental mRNA juice is a grim reaper that could have helped one of these folks shuffle off their mortal coil a little earlier. It’s certainly having that effect on the rest of the population. Luckily, almost no one has been dumb enough to keep taking boosters.

People who received at least one Covid jab were about 30 percent more likely to be infected with Sars-Cov-2 than the unvaccinated, Italian researchers report.

The Italian study is the most comprehensive yet to show Covid shots raise the risk of infection. After the Omicron variant appeared, the shots performed even worse, with the jabbed at about 50 percent higher risk.

The peer-reviewed study also contained a surprising and frightening finding for people who have taken three or more Moderna mRNA jabs. Moderna-only recipients were 71 percent more likely to die from all causes than people who took only Pfizer jabs, a significant difference even after the researchers adjusted for age and medical problems.

Moderna’s jabs contain much more mRNA than Pfizer’s, so the finding highlights the question whether higher exposure to mRNA may drive deaths – and whether repeated shots increase that risk. https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/another-major-study-shows-the-mrnas

It might be chaos, mathematical chaos.

In that case, it’s nothing to wonder about. Various variables have brought about these particular simultanaities.

You might go hither and yonder, seeking a pattern or explanation.

It reminds me of waiting for the right time to turn left onto a nearby, two-lane, state highway. My wife, the mathematician, always reminds me to be careful, that we have all day.

She says it’s chaos, and that soon an opening in the pattern will appear.

She is always right. Noticeably™, an opening eventually comes, but at it’s own, particular time.

If I think too hard, it’s freaky.

It’s chaos, and I’ve read a book about it. My mathematician wife completely understands it!

Chaos.

Whether the vaccine has caused unneeded deaths or health issues is debatable, but what’s not debatable is that the insane lockdowns – which Mr. Stats, Steve Sailer, championed – have caused untold damage to all Americans but, especially, young people.

The suicide rate remains sky high. Kids remain dramatically behind in terms of learning. Depression spiked in young people deprived of desperately needed interactions with other young people. And so on and so on.

All for nothing! The lockdowns were always stupid. But selfish Boomers demanded them out of pointless fear. The lockdowns weren’t going to stop anything, you morons.

May anyone who supported the lockdowns after a few weeks go to Hell.

Haha, yeah, and in other news the Russian military is now so exhausted, demoralized, and psychologically defeated they’ll never leave the Donbas.

True.

Or, it could be that these things happen because they happen.

With the exception of Shane, they all lived full productive lives

Shane fulfilled his destiny.

All struck down in the full bloom of youth. Most over 90. Besides the axiom that only the good die young maybe wealth and luxury does make you live longer? Who would have guessed

Yes, thousands of people die every day. Maybe even millions, all over the world.

Most are unknown to the public.

Few live as long as O”Conner or Kissinger.

God’s Will. Or not…

Not only was O’Connor old, but she had been suffering from dementia since 2008.

I wonder what Ronald Reagan thought of O’Connor as a Supreme Court justice. She was not as disastrous a selection as Dwight Eisenhower placing William Brennan on the Court, in that she was usually a reliable conservative vote. But she often proved to be the swing vote on a number of important decisions. And her opinions often came down to “it depends on the facts of each case,” which is fine for a district court judge, but not for the Supreme Court, whose decisions are supposed to provide guidance to lower courts and lawyers when cases with similar facts present themselves. Perhaps she was just an example of the Peter Principle and got the promotion to her level of incompetence on the Supreme Court as a result of her sex.

I’m sad for Munger. I like it when they notch three figures.

Must be the vax.

“Why ARE so many young people suffering heart attacks? Rates have DOUBLED in a decade among some under-30s”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12770643/Why-young-people-suffering-heart-attacks-Rates-DOUBLED-decade-30s-experts-insist-soaring-obesity-rates-blame.html

I know that it is statistically insignificant, but wax cured me of the long post-covid I’d been having for months.

On the other hand, people react differently. A cousin of mine became exhausted & started having some pulmonary problems after an anti-flu jab. We’ll see …

Off Topic: Did you see Jussie lost his appeal to the Illinois Court of Appeals? They’ll probably just appeal higher if he has someone to pay the lawyers. Maybe Kamala will pitch in?

Her stated reason for retiring from the Supreme Court in 2005 was to spend more time with her husband, who was afflicted with Alzheimer’s. Toward the end, he forgot that he was married and fell in love with his nurse.

Her retirement came as a surprise because Rehnquist was battling thyroid cancer and lots of court watchers thought he might bow out at the end of the term. But he refused to quit.

When Rehnquist finally died (on the Saturday night of Labor Day weekend), the Bush administration had its hands full trying to manage the post-Katrina chaos in New Orleans. John Roberts had been nominated as O’Connor’s replacement and his confirmation seemed all but assured. So they just bumped him up to chief justice.

There’s something very unseemly about the spectacle of these politicians and judges and other public figures clinging to power with their cold, nearly-dead hands. Ginsburg, Feinstein, McConnell – it’s sad, but it’s also infuriating.

The most traumatic experience of my late childhood was watching my grandfather succumb to the ravages of lung cancer. And the most traumatic experience of my adulthood (thus far) has been watching my grandmother decline and then eventually die from Alzheimer’s.

It’s really, *really* creepy to watch a video clip of Biden and see the exact same look in his eyes that my grandmother got just before she started ranting and raving about seeing giant flying bugs swarming around her bedroom. It almost gives me PTSD.

It’s because inflation, aggravated by disruptions due to wars and sanctions has restricted the supply of key dietary supplements, which now have to be rationed so there are enough to go around for the really important people, such as the Bidens, the McConnells and the Pelosis. The non-critical centenarian insiders can’t get their special paleo protein shakes anymore. Do you have any idea what the price of children’s blood is these days?

Must be the vax.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/tungsten-arm-ohtani-does-it-again/#comment-5534491

prosa123

Queen Elizabeth has died.

AnotherDad

Didn’t do crossfit.

Jenner Ickham Errican

She loved kippers, hated kipping.

“The peer-reviewed study also contained a surprising and frightening finding for people who have taken three or more Moderna mRNA jabs….so the finding highlights the question whether higher exposure to mRNA may drive deaths – and whether repeated shots increase that risk.”

Ah, so typical. Higher exposure to mRNA may drive deaths? I’m not sure where Alex Berenson gets that, given that, the very study he links to actually says this:

As compared to the unvaccinated, the individuals who received greater than or equal to one booster dose showed a ≥85% lower risk of severe or lethal COVID-19. A massive impact of vaccination was found among the elderly: 22.0% of the unvaccinated, infected individuals died, as opposed to less than 3% of those who received greater than or equal to three vaccine doses

Weird how he somehow overlooked that part, thereby giving the impression that getting the mRNA jab “may” drive deaths, when the results of the study clearly support the opposite conclusion. I.e., even though “no protection against infection was observed” (he did manage to catch that) the consequences of getting infected are dramatically different for those unlucky or stupid enough to catch COVID without getting vaxxed.

Classic anti-vaxxer proof-texting. Note that I myself managed to resist the temptation to shell out good money to read Berenson’s drivel, which means I paid exactly what is was worth.

Commenters here (and Steve, I guess) are referring to “famous” people who have now become dead.

As Muggles correctly mentions above, very many people die every day, but most are unknown to the public.

Henry Kissinger lived in Kent, Connecticut, some few miles north of where I live now. I first entered Kent on foot, when I was hiking the Appalachian Trail with my dog in 1980. We slept on the ground there.

Our neighbor is now 102 years old. We had a parade for her 100th birthday. I decorated our Mercedes-Benz convertible for the event, with balloons and signs on the side. The local fire department drove out with two firetrucks, sirens blazing, ahead of us.

She was a stewardess for TWA on the Lockheed Constellation, flying between New York City and Europe.

She still lives across the road.

‘Not only was O’Connor old, but she had been suffering from dementia since 2008.’

That was one thing Kissinger had going for him; he appears to have been sharp until at least near the end.

…of course, if your IQ was 180 or whatever, how many would really be in a position to notice if it slumped to 150? He could have been a kind of intellectual Willy McCovey; not what he had once been, but still able to bang out 28 home runs at 39.

So what? Ginsburg suffered from dementia since 1998 and she didn’t die. Not only did she stay alive, she still showed up for work every day despite the dementia. Such dedication! It was the vax I tell ya.

You have a history of obfuscating about COVID shots. See Vaxxing Risks for the Elderly (Ron Unz • February 6, 2023), starting with #107.

Is this that “Big Swedish Study” you recently posted in Newslinks? It didn’t even address side effects, much less “Debun[k] Covid Vaccine Alarmists” as you asserted there, did it?

PCC is a condition reported among a small proportion of the participants whether “vaccinated” or not. Basically, the same 95% effective narrative from the early Pfizer study that was used to mislead people into taking the shots.

I haven’t taken any, got over two apparent bouts within a few days, and suffered nothing substantial except the cowardly conformity of and ostracism from people who fell hard for the dempanic. No one ever asks for my papers these days, of course.

I’m happy with my choice. The witless posts when someone older than Mr. Sailer dies and your fork-tongued comments indicate some discomfort over yours.

OT:

Spanish aristocrat arrested on US allegations
Alejandro Cao de Benos has been accused of helping North Korea evade sanctions by using cryptocurrency
https://www.rt.com/news/588371-spanish-man-arrested-in-north-korea-sanctions-case/

Steve, if you’re haven’t got anything worthwhile to post …..

When it’s people we’re dealing with, driving, or making other big and small life choices, there must be some randomness to it. Unless they’re actual soulless biological machines, with just the brains commandeering their actions and reactions, completely predictable if all the relevant data were known.

What we all know is, after reaching a certain age the chances of seeing many new next years dwindle. We’re more likely to survive the next decade than not, and so it goes, then the odds switch as time passes, then the same for years, weeks and days.

I’d like to know if any of those old timers did anything other than just not being concerned about the seemingly imminent demise, to reach their impressive, respective ages.

In the last couple of years, it’s America’s young people who are dying at increased rates (though this increase predated COVID by over a decade, and the situation in the US isn’t what is being observed in other industrialized countries. Moreover, suicide rates actually decreased during the epidemic, though they went were back on the upswing by the end of 2022).

Life expectancy has been increasing in all industrialized countries. But starting then the pace of increase in the United States began to fall off. And then after 2010, it just stopped increasing altogether and plateaued.

…it’s being driven by an increase in death rates in young and middle-aged adults 25 to 64. And most of those relate to the problems of drug overdoses, suicides, alcohol related causes. These are sometimes called deaths of despair, but also cardiometabolic diseases like diabetes and other conditions caused by obesity.

There are 2 Connies that are still airworthy, one in Basel, Switzerland and one down in Australia. I really don’t care so much about the Kissengers and the Pogue guys and such, as compared to seeing these beautiful flying machines keep running. I got to ride on a Ford Ford Trimotor a few years back with my son. It does 90 mph in climb, 90 mph in cruise, 90 mph on approach and was (at the time) 90 years old.

We’ve been through some things together,
with trunks of memories still to come.
We found things to do in stormy weather.
Long may you run.

Long may you run. Long may you run.
Although these changes have come
With your chrome heart shining in the sun
Long may you run.

Thanks! We were just wondering/speculating about what was going on a few days ago here.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/stanfords-jussie-smollett/#comment-6286688

More about today’s loss.
https://www.cnn.com/us/jussie-smollett-loses-court-appeal/index.html
https://nypost.com/2023/12/01/news/jussie-smollett-loses-appeal-in-hate-crime-hoax-is-likely-headed-back-to-jail/

Let’s say that I had some association with the Supreme Court during O’Conner’s time. She was awful, similar to Kennedy. Both were all about their feelings.

As much as I hated Ginsburg, at least she had an agenda. O’Conner’s agenda was whatever she felt at the moment. Pathetic.

And, this, my friends, is why the mighty Constitution won’t save you. It’s just words on a piece of paper. The words can be changed and/or people can decide that those words mean something completely different from the Founder’s intentions.

I’ll give Ginsburg credit. She was loyal to her people – as are you Jack.

Must be nice to play game where the other team doesn’t show up.

Weren’t they OLD?

No, no, no, the whole thing’s age adjusted.

– Ron Unz, site owner.

COVID had x rate of giving you heart problems. The vaccine had a nonzero*x rate of giving you heart problems. How about if the polio vaccine gave some significant percentage of people mild polio? No bueno. They were shoddily made. The extreme claims of the anti-vaxx right were too much, but skepticism of Shaniqua injecting you with miracle juice is justified.

Do you have any idea what the price of children’s blood is these days?

Regular or Palestinian?

All four lived incredibly long: 100, 99, 93, and 65, which when renormalized for Shane’s lifestyle has got to be over 100.

You can actually tell that across all colleges, Math majors are obviously better quantitatively but also better verbally than half of humanities majors. pic.twitter.com/Kqrl70Fmpj

— Deedy (@deedydas) December 1, 2023

After leaving the Suprme Court , SDOC remained a judge and worked on the Federal Circuit. When did she retire from that ? Or should I say hear her last case? can we say federal judges never retire ?

Fun fact: That California law restricting violent video games was written by State Senator Leland Yee. Yes, the same anti-gun Senator Yee that was sent to federal prison for conspiring to traffic guns into the United States from the Philippines: https://t.co/ykMVpBCiXp https://t.co/uzwq47D5eK

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) December 1, 2023

LEGAL ALERT: A West Virginia federal judge has struck down the law banning 18-20-year-olds from buying handguns from gun dealers, saying it violates the Second Amendment. https://t.co/02J9DLPbdi pic.twitter.com/LALEKTQ6IX

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) December 1, 2023

You catch up on our Miller v. Bonta California "Assault Weapon" Ban Lawsuit here: https://t.co/Yg1m355P1a

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) December 1, 2023

RBG certainly had an agenda : she applied disparate impact everywhere except for law school / law faculty admission , her clerks — never hired anyone who would be recognised as African American. RBG cared deeply about female harassment and DI except in certain industries such as Hollywood and publishing and gleefully accepted jaunts to receive awards. I would bet there are photos of her with Harvey Weinstein , and she like much of the Left elite know about Harvey , but said nothing.

What has DI cost America ? And now as part of DI it will be applied to brain surgery residencies and pilots ?

SDOC was a weather vane and Reagan aides knew it, but could a recovering from his gunshot wounds Reagan have followed PJB advice and promoted Bork or Scalia ahead of the Cowgirl from AZ ?

Yes Steve. The government is right about the Vax just like they are right about the Ukraine war.

I’ve been following your for quite awhile, but maybe it’s time you switched over to commenting about golf course design full time.

“the rise of death or disability among the young.”

Oh, look at that, another 75 iq antivaxxer making an assertion while providing no evidence for it.

I’ve long since come to the conclusion that other people may not react to some events as I do. For instance, I abhor the decrepitude of old age & cannot stand the idea of becoming frail and dependent. I’ll do it the old Stoic way if I need to. It’s liberating.

On the other hand, I perfectly understand that other people cling to life, whether because of religious reasons, inertia or family ties.

No universal recipe.

3 of them had almost 300 years of life between them.

☮

☮

Charles Thomas Munger January 1, 1924 – November 28, 2023

He almost made it.

That’s a long way from First Blood and An Officer and a Gentleman.

Truly weird how all these 100 year olds are dying.

That reminds me to call my 91-year-old mom.

“There’s something very unseemly about the spectacle of these politicians and judges and other public figures clinging to power with their cold, nearly-dead hands. Ginsburg, Feinstein, McConnell – it’s sad, but it’s also infuriating.”

Perhaps they aren’t allowed to? Remember the way Harry Reid got his face caved in by a treadmill with a mean left hook?

Thanks. Here is an article about that Yale grades data with more information.
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2023/11/30/faculty-report-reveals-average-yale-college-gpa-grade-distributions-by-subject
Note link to a similar article about Harvard grade inflation.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/10/5/faculty-debate-grade-inflation-compression/

The tweet actually left out the extremes.

There is significant variation in the frequency of A-range grades across “large-enrollment subjects,” ranging from 52.39 percent for Economics to 92.37 percent for History of Science, Medicine and Public Health. Lower-enrollment subjects display similar variation, ranging from 57.36 percent for Engineering and Applied Science to 92.06 percent for Women’s, Gender and Sexuality Studies.

Interesting graphic there showing overall grade inflation from 2010 to 2023. From 40% A’s to 60% A’s over that time.

I am not seeing a source for the GRE scores graphic or data. Anyone?

Not counting the assassinated James Garfield and William McKinley 13 men served as President from Andrew Johnson (took office 1865) to Franklin D. Roosevelt (died in office 1945). Except for Herbert Hoover, who lived to 90, not one of them made it to age 73.
And yet of the first 15 Presidents, up until Abraham Lincoln, seven made it to at least 75. Go figure.

“The vaccine had a nonzero*x rate of giving you heart problems. How about if the polio vaccine gave some significant percentage of people mild polio?”

If you were near-certain that you’d be exposed to it eventually, than yes, of course you’d get it. There’s also a non-zero probability that an air-bag or seat belt will make things worse for you in a car wreck and cause the very fatality that they are designed to prevent. But overall, the likelihood of surviving a car wreck is significantly greater when they are in place, and so we encourage their use and even penalize those who disable them. Few preventatives are risk-free — one must always look at the big picture.

Washington forced his troops to get smallpox inoculation, when the technology for doing that was primitive, and the death toll from the vaccination itself was significant (I’ve seen numbers as high as 10%, though though 2-3% seems more likely). It was still better than the death rate (and complications) incurred by letting smallpox ravage an entire garrison.

All of them had grown older but not up. That whole wisdom thing… it doesn’t seem to take these days…

And the other was a drug addict.

That beautiful dolphin body. They don’t make them like that anymore.

Great story about the centenarian.

Appalachian trail in 1980, huh? We share the same spirit. I rode my bicycle around Lake Superior in 1976 and slept on the ground every night. Never saw a moose. Lotsa mosquitoes though.

Washington contracted smallpox himself, on his only trip abroad, to Barbados. It is likely the reason for his infertility, though he probably didn’t know that at the time.

There’s also a non-zero probability that an air-bag or seat belt will make things worse for you in a car wreck and cause the very fatality that they are designed to prevent.

I know the family of such a case. Five teenagers riding to school when the brakes failed and crashed into a truck. The four unbelted ones walked away with minor injuries. The belted one was in a vegetative state for decades.

It does happen, but it’s not the way to bet.

You forgot to mention Rosalynn Carter’s death two weeks ago, Steve.

He said telegraphs, not telegrams.

Oh look at that, another vaxxer attacking an anti vaxxer, while providing no evidence for it.

In the 60s a family member was killed in an accident, and my aunt received a Western Union telegram giving her the bad news. It was the next quickest way to notify someone of important news, and I guess it violated bereavement policy to notify someone through a telephone call.

lol well played, Steve. The abuse you and Unz took on the COVID19 vaccine was really something to behold (and this coming from me, a skeptic of said clotshots). Anyway, hope there’s some satisfaction in tweaking the haters.

Have you noticed all the unexpected celebrity deaths this week? Henry Kissinger, Shane MacGowan, Charlie Munger, and now Sandra Day O’Connor.

Must be the vax.

The week before it was Rosalynn Carter.

It’s 183 in Pogue years.

Thanks for pointing this out. I’m 72, I’ve had all the Covid vaccines plus flu.

Covid in particular is deadly to the elderly. I don’t know what Steve is on about to make the absurd suggestion that three people, all 93 or older, must have died from the vaccine.

There is such a thing as dying of old age (Kissinger and Munger) or Alzheimer’s (Sandra Day O’Connor).

If they had died during the “pandemic” they would have all gone down in the books as Covid deaths.

No, Steve, it must be KOVID!

But talking about old celebrities dying is a good distraction in order to head of discussion of all the young anonymous people dying of weird heart related issues.

Remember, Steve thinks that we are all “knuckleheads” – those of us who questioned the completely unprecedented response to a completely un-unprecedented pandemic.

You will be told to “provide proof” and you could do so til you are blue in the face, but if that point of view is not published across the entire mainstream media, probably 95% of the population will not listen. They need to get hurt real bad before they will open their eyes and see.

Covid in particular is deadly to the elderly.

All acute illnesses are deadly to the elderly, not just the corona 19 version of the flu. Nature taking its course.

He used to drive my great uncle to school when he was a kid. And that man’s name was: Andre the Giant.

I received a telegram from graduate school office in 1984. Western Union stopped telegrams in 2006. But you can still send telegrams at:

https://www.itelegram.com/

You have reminded me of my all-time favorite telegram. Mrs. Home, upon discovering one of Lord Home’s recent indiscretions, sent this telegram:

TO HELL WITH YOU. OFFENSIVE LETTER TO FOLLOW.

The first time I read that I laughed for at least two minutes straight, and chuckled about it for the rest of the day.

There is such a thing as dying of old age (Kissinger and Munger) or Alzheimer’s (Sandra Day O’Connor).

A flea with all legs cutoff becomes deaf (because it doesn’t jump when you say jump).

OT – this is odd: Derek Chauvin was stabbed by a former federal informant (was he just “former” though?) and Mexican Mafia member named “John Turscak”.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/who-is-john-turscak-man-accused-of-stabbing-derek-chauvin-22-times/

Does the Mexican Mafia have a lot of members with Croatian names?

I had forgotten how beautiful Sinead O’Connor was in 1995. The Irish saved Western Civilization, but they could not save Sinead.

Your troll game is

Well played, sir!

I’ll give Ginsburg credit. She was loyal to her people – as are you Jack.

Don’t forget Mr Unz.

She was loyal to her people…

She betrayed her sex by forcing women onto juries against their will:

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1978/77-6067

It will most likely be a sullen black nurse-substitute, one who just grunts when you demand your Doritos.

Why not use your statistical powers and unparalleled noticing to once and for all prove there is NO EVIDENCE. Looking forward to it.

Of all of Steve Sailer’s blog posts, this was the laziest of all. Ever.

Three of those four people were age 93 or older.

Celebrities, btw, if they’re big enough, get the placebo.

they’re of the political world you are most familiar with based on your age and they’re grouped around an age a decade to two older than you, when people do die the most

Now that is a good insight about noticing!

Since Covid doesn’t exist, there must be a flu epidemic somewhere. And the correlation with the jab is just a coincidence.

There’s something very unseemly about the spectacle of these politicians and judges and other public figures clinging to power with their cold, nearly-dead hands. Ginsburg, Feinstein, McConnell – it’s sad, but it’s also infuriating.

No one back in the day realized that ‘Weekend at Bernie’s’ was going to be a how-to guide.

these people are as old as mold. it’s expected.

instead what i notice is that everybody in the upper class is moving towards 100 years old now. they used to die by 80. now the President is 80, and the totally non-functional age has moved up to 90.

my dad is 80 and he still runs two small software companies day to day. also note here, all the underclass people he knew are long dead. the life extension era is not extending equally.

i’m approaching 50 and a bunch of the people i grew up with are already dead, some in prison for long sentences. all underclass people. recently the guy from across the street when we grew up was killed in an accident, and he was only 41. conversely none of the upper middle class or higher people are even in any medical trouble (as far as i can tell). so we’re back to the classic “smarter people live longer” and the modern corollary “and are less fat”. but why. is it because they have good genes, genes which make them smart AND more hardy? or is it being smart that enables them to make better decisions.

this Pogues guy was 65 – isn’t that pretty old for a rock star? he didn’t look in the best of health even in his 20s. those teeth. damn.

wonder if the Irish guys don’t last as long as the British guys. some of them have done enough drugs to kill an elephant and they just keep going. rock stars die young but some of these 60s and 70s British stars are nearly immortal.

I don’t know what Steve is on about to make the absurd suggestion that three people, all 93 or older, must have died from the vaccine.

He was being sarcastic.

Anyone defending the “Covid vaccines” in this day and age is either a moron or a liar.

How can you look yourself in the mirror and make such kind of stupid jokes, when it was pretty much admitted by everyone that:

a) Lockdowns didn’t work and had actually negative effects (social and medical);

b) Masking was useless and also mostly negative;

c) Children didn’t need the vax nor anything really;

d) All those “measures” that you supported had only one objective: promoting the vaccines. Which were paid by us, the taxpayers, while the big companies immune from prosecution in case of side effects.

e) Claims that the vax was a “genocide tool” might have been exaggerated (I personally never made that claim — I assumed it was all for money and as such you don’t try to kill all your customers), but they did have several bad side effects and killed or maimed people who would probably be healthy today if they hadn’t been basically forced to take a stupid, useless vaccine.

f) Effects on fertility appear to be negative. There are a few studies.

But hey Steve, thanks for helping the Jews at Moderna and Pfizer make money! Thanks for being an experimental lab rat for an mRNA shot, so I didn’t have to. (Nor that I would, anyway).

Steve’s bottom line: “the Big Media and the System is right and trustable about everything, except about Blacks being equal to Whites and race not existing.” Stupid.

(Now I wait 24 hours or more for this comment to be posted, when the discussion will have moved on.)

A famous Mexican Mafia leader was a Croatian:

So was Johnny Mercer, on his mom’s side.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6575503/lillian-elizabeth-mercer

He was being sarcastic.

No, he was just making an unfunny joke, as usual. Evelyn Waugh, he ain’t.

O/T Steve will you be reviewing “Godzilla Minus One”?

BuzzFeed Click Bait

Steve did his job, and that was helping me get off the normie thought reservation from 2005-2010

He’s done now, ignore him

Really?

Are you sure?

Yes. This post was perhaps the least necessary among all the thousand plus I have seen.

“Have you noticed that four people recently died? One of them was actually younger than 93, you know.”

Come on. This is one of those times when no post would have been better than this type of filler.

Here is Wikipedia’s page on ‘noteworthy deaths’. Only 1-2% of the names are going to be recognizable to most people since it is a worldwide list, but you can see a lot in terms of patterns, what proportion of noteworthy people die young or reach 100, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_in_2023

This is far better data from which one can judge of more ‘famous people’ are dying than the norm. Or if simply more people are famous in the modern age of media saturation.

Read the book Turtles All the Way Down..

About vaccines. ALL of them. I’m only halfway through and I already told my GP I’m never getting a vax again. Ever. For anything,

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/67258869/pdf-download-read-turtles-all-the-way-down-vaccine-science-and-myth-ebook-epub-kidle

Oh – in case you’d bother to look for that photo: Fail better, please and let us see it!

I laugh ‘n laugh. Now that is fun!
I can hardly type! – Thx. too to Stan Adams!

“…strange pain, strange sin, where I am, I don’t know, I’ll never know, in the silence you don’t know, you must go on, I can’t go on, I’ll go on.”

— Beckett, L’Innommable

The motto of any and every serious artist. Shane and Sinead included.

On the other hand, people react differently. A cousin of mine became exhausted & started having some pulmonary problems after an anti-flu jab. We’ll see …

The Swedish did well in this regard I’d say in that they did not put up pressure on people to take the vaxx.
Vaccination rate 73 %. Booster-rate of those vaccinated: 90+%.

What is clear now: The vaccine-doomsayers like Malone, who predicted thousands of dead kids for the US for expample were way over the top.**
**this is not to say that is was a good decision to vacciante healthy kids. Danish vaccine-effects-researcher Chrtistine Stabell-Benn, advisor to Governor DeSantis, said early on: Do not vaccinate healthy kids.

There is an explanation for that. It’s an ongoing process first postulated in a law by a 20th social scientist which, in rigorous scientific jargon, states that, as the percentage of people who acquires some amount of fame increases, their period of fame decreases in the same proportion; or, as he stated it, “in the future everybody will be famous for 15 minutes”. All of those people’s deaths are reported in the media, due to another 20th century breakthrough, namely, the virtually infinite capacity for digital information storage and the pervasiveness of the internet.

LOL

You’re drunk-posting better than I (do)!

Poor timing Steve, a close friend of my mother just rang that she had to rush her heavily vaxxed husband to A&E due to a cold, he is on two sets of antibiotics and a drip, he isn’t getting worse she said.

Seeing a lot, you would expect some, of issues in that generation, with cancers and colds hitting them hard. Original antigenic sin. Of course lockdown has crippled the NHS, so these things aren’t picked up so much with appointments to see specialist being more than six months. I would note my elderly mother had a covid outbreak in her ward in the summer, a specialist elderly hospital where they recuperate from hip operations, they were all fine.

Great points.

I’m against forced gene therapies masquerading as vaccines. OSHA regs should never be used to force employers to require vaccination for employment.

If Steve Sailer, Deiter Keif, and HA are impressed with Pfizer and Moderna, then by all means they should be allowed to get injected 2 or 3 times a year with their entire regular and mRNA vaccination schedule for COVID, the Flu, RSV (previously known as the common cold until just this year), pnumeccocal pneumonia, chicken pox, shingles, and cat scratch fever if they wanna be. That way they will be safe. I should be free to attain natural immunity just like I did with covid, the measles, and chicken pox…….by getting it and allowing my immune system do what the Lord designed it to do, and then be forever protected by that same immune system from that malady.

How old was Brony James when he had his first heart attack again? 18? Hmmm.

Thanks for the insight, Citizen. I wonder if O’Connor enjoyed being the center of attention when she was the swing vote menopausal attention whore?

Toward the end, he forgot that he was married and fell in love with his nurse.

My favorite part of this is that when Sandra would go to visit him, he would brag to her about his new girlfriend 🤣

O’Connor says that birth is more traumatic than death, but they are wholly different processes. Birth is simply when you get out of your mother’s tomb. There is no *existential* change. It’s simply an environmental change. In fact, it’s hard to pinpoint a moment when one starts to psychologically exist. It’s a very gradual process. Death, on the other hand, seems to be an abrupt process.

Thanks.

I now know that a large major at Yale is “Ethnicity, Race, and Migration.” I wonder if they take field trips.

Interesting that grade inflation was announced as “a serious problem” in 2001; by 2017 it was “meh.”

What is clear now: The vaccine-doomsayers like Malone, who predicted thousands of dead kids for the US for expample were way over the top.**

I never believed the extreme doom sayers. Even now, people on substack and elsewhere are claiming that millions have died from the vaccines. I don’t see it. I know lots of people who were vaccinated; I don’t know any who have died.

That said, there do seem to be a large number of young people who have developed cardiac problems and even died from the vaccine. They didn’t need to take it. They traded an infintesimally small chance of dying from COVID for……………dying.

The vaccine didn’t work nearly as well as they said it would, and nobody should have been compelled to take it. Ever. For any reason.

While I don’t believe the predictions of dire consequences from the vaccines, I do think the whole campaign had nefarious purposes. They wish to normalize the idea of compulsory vaccines. And, someday,…………..who knows what will be in the damned things. Thinkgs to make you docile and compliant, I should expect. Or to make you allergic to meat (it has been suggested).

Doctors and so-called “public health professionals” don’t get to tell us what to do.

Steve’s bottom line: “the Big Media and the System is right and trustable about everything, except about Blacks being equal to Whites and race not existing.” Stupid.

Falling for the Establishment’s COVID propaganda, along with his warball insights on Ukraine, has diminished the level of devotion among Mr. Sailer’s steady commenters. One wrote circa early 2021 that he and his wife had received injections of one of the Pfizer, etc., products because “Steve” recommended it. Now, many here seem to have finally figured out that he’s always been pretty much a one trick dissident.

(Now I wait 24 hours or more for this comment to be posted, when the discussion will have moved on.)

This, too, has finally been Noticed and then even acknowledged by Mr. Sailer. A couple years ago, regulars were in denial about the soft censorship based on, in his recent admission, the “quality of commenter [sic].”

Pat Buchanan and Andrew Napolitano eventually became piñatas on this website, worth following only for the criticism they earned. Mr. Sailer’s on the same trajectory.

The reason celebrities are dying like flies is that you are getting old. Talk to a young person, and you’ll find that the people they regard as celebrities are doing just fine.

My local conservative radio station has an annual contest in which you submit a list of names consisting of people you expect to die during the upcoming year. I guess last December everybody who entered had names such as these on their list; the winner will be someone who was uniquely prescient and lucky.

Or guilty?

Have you noticed all the unexpected celebrity deaths this week? Henry Kissinger, Shane MacGowan, Charlie Munger, and now Sandra Day O’Connor.

Must be the vax.

And I hear Jimmy Carter is in a bad way.

Must be the vax.

Stop trying to full us Steve, all these people were Illuminati and thus wouldn’t have taken the Vax, especially MacGowan who was a well known 33rd Degree Global Master who Leo Vardaukar called every morning for his daily orders.

The words can be changed and/or people can decide that those words mean something completely different from the Founder’s intentions.

Oh please, the words don’t even come into it nowadays. Gay marriage? That’s when I knew it’s just whatever five old dingbats want.

Disagree. That’s not funny. That’s cruel. [I’m talking about Babs here, not the Irish dude].

There are just so many more famous people on earth due to the 20th Century Media explosion.

Celebrities, btw, if they’re big enough, get the placebo.

Henry was so big he got his personally from Elizabeth Holmes!

Keith Richards turns 80 this month, so it’s an admittedly high bar that Shane failed to clear.

Beckett and my great-uncle at Portora Royal School, Enniskillen. Beckett is in the chair on the right and my great-uncle is behind him, standing on the stairs near the pillar:

I just found this while I was doing a search to double-check how many r’s there are in “Portora”:

Letters
Samuel Beckett and Portora
Thu Aug 2 2018 – 00:07

Sir, – In his article on Samuel Beckett at Portora ( An Irishman’s Diary, August 1st), Frank McNally writes that the foundation of the Irish Free State was generally opposed by pupils at Portora Royal School in the early 1920s. This statement needs qualification.

The late Rev Douglas Graham, a near-contemporary of the future Nobel laureate who himself became headmaster of Portora in 1945, wrote a memoir of his schooldays for the Portora magazine in which he recounted how boarders from the Free State organised sporting competitions against Northern Ireland pupils. The two groups marched to these games under their respective banners, the Tricolour and the Union flag. The games ended only after objections were made by some residents of Enniskillen.

Your Diarist is right that Beckett avoided the school after leaving. However, another Old Portoran, the literary critic Vivian Mercier, wrote in his book Beckett/Beckett about the playwright’s use of school slang in his works. Beckett always declined to meet Mercier. – Yours, etc,

CDC ARMSTRONG,

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/samuel-beckett-and-portora-1.3583314

The Texas AG sued Pfizer on Wednesday for fraud about the efficacy and safety of its “Vaccine”.

And there are still morons who’ll take the next one too.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-general-ken-paxton-sues-pfizer-misrepresenting-covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-and-conspiring

I think the Cricket Whites settle the question: Not a Mick.

Haha, sure that they’re 93 or older or sure that it’s the laziest post?

I believe I got fooled by your meaning here too. Was it a joke about very old people dying because, well….they’re very old, or that we’re gonna start noticing people we’ve heard about dying everyday, or a joke about the “anti-vaxxers”, they’re being likely to blame the vax for deaths of centenarians?

The 1st 2 things are true, anyway. You will likely be able to make a post about a rock star or famous (enough) political figure dying every day, soon enough. Great! Saves on work for you, and we commenters can share youtube music videos!

I like that the center does not hold, Adam, in that first pic anyway. Center button, I mean.

Thank you so much, Adam. I spent 5 minutes looking for that figure on Peak Stupidity yesterday. You always come through.

It troubles me that a majority of the replies don’t see that Sailer is trolling the anti-vaxers. I would have thought he would have a smarter than average readership. He doesn’t.

A few people of advanced age and one hard living alcoholic die in the same week… So the obvious cause of death is… covid vaccine?

I think Steve is conducting some sort of experiment. Should be interesting, looking forward to that article.

“And I hear Jimmy Carter is in a bad way.”

He and Roz were devoted to each other from what I’ve heard. Now Roz is gone. I give him…a month…two months maybe?

some of these 60s and 70s British stars are nearly immortal.

Keith Richards is approaching Highlander status

She ate the Doritos

The most interesting thing I heard about Kissinger this week was that Jill St John was really smart

Three of anything constitutes a “trend” in journalism, even 90-something celebrities buying the farm. Sorry but I, uh, don’t think we really needed the Pogues dude — a mere whippersnapper at age 65 — to round this out. Although speaking of trends there’s been an awful lot or Irish-related material here lately

Last week in Prague, by stroke. Someone else Richard outlived.

Killing Joke guitarist Kevin “Geordie” Walker’s influence is vast: Metallica attempted to emulate his guitar snarl on their cover of “The Wait”; Kurt Cobain admittedly ripped off his riff to “Eighties” for “Come As You Are”; LCD Soundsystem synthesized his riff on “Change” and turned it into “Losing My Edge.” Other artists who praised Walker’s playing and Killing Joke include Jimmy Page, Trent Reznor, My Bloody Valentine’s Kevin Shields, and all of Faith No More. Yet Walker himself never became a household name before his death on Sunday at age 64, which Killing Joke announced on social media.

Yes I thought that too. But was it really wise to joke about vaccines here on Unz, given the high anti-vax readership?

It guaranteed a bunch of vaccine argument comments. Although perhaps that too was the intent.

Vaccines seemingly take credit for improvements in health due to increased accessibility to clean water and simple improvements in diet and hygiene. Illnesses such as scarlet fever, for which there is no vaccine, decreased at the same rate historically as polio. But iSteve doesn’t find such mundane explanations exciting. He wants to play with his toy rocket ship, drink Moderna fortified Tang and podcast from his closet, and by God you’re going to play along too so there’s no contradictory noise to upset his techno fantasy. Never mind that your 10 year old is now an obese retard scared of his own shadow.

I’ll give you credit for inventing fantasies in your head that bear no resemblance to reality. Must be nice to blame imaginary enemies instead of looking in the mirror.

The irony is that WNs are just wiggers – they learned this behavior from blacks. It’s always someone else’s fault. White people dindu nuffin.

“Troll”

This. 🖕😂🖕

All acute illnesses are deadly to the elderly, not just the corona 19 version of the flu…

OK.

But usually the elderly have already had many infectious diseases during their life and don’t catch as many.

But Covid was new so they lost that advantage.

It’s my observation that young children catch cold after cold. But by about age 50 or so one catches few, having already had all cold virus variants.

“All acute illnesses are deadly to the elderly,…”

Far less so when they’re vaxxed — at least that’s what the data for COVID indicate. The old will still die eventually, of course, but there are much easier ways to go out than COVID — I’d much rather go like Hank Aaron than Herman Cain, for example, but then, I’m not a masochist.

For the same reason, not too many old people are dying of measles these days. Whereas if the number of anti-vaxxers is sufficiently high, young children will start popping off like flies. Weird coincidence. I guess. Oh, if there were only something that could be done to prevent or stave off or all that needless tragedy…

I decided to look into Yale majors/subjects and grades a bit more. First, here is a useful data source.
https://oir.yale.edu/historical-data-main-page

My idea was to see how number of majors by race and sex correlated with grades. Here are some relevant files.

W004 Enrollment (Headcount) by Yale School by Race and Gender
https://oir.yale.edu/sites/default/files/w004_enroll_racegen_2021_vf.pdf

That looks at schools and simply lumps all undergraduates together. Still interesting. An issue is international students form a separate “race” category.

W010 Race/Ethnicity, Gender and International Student Enrollment by School
https://oir.yale.edu/sites/default/files/w010_enroll_race_gender_2021.pdf

Similar to W004 except it contains annual data from 2014-2021.

W014 Degrees — BA/BS Degrees Awarded by Major
https://oir.yale.edu/sites/default/files/w014_degs_yc_2019-20_0.pdf

Useful for seeing number of majors from 2009-2020.

W045 Junior and Senior Majors by Gender
https://oir.yale.edu/sites/default/files/w045_yc_majors_gender_2020.pdf

That is probably the most useful for my original question. A sample:
History of Science, Medicine & Public Health (highest percentage of A’s) is more than 5:1 female:male.
Economics (lowest percentage of A’s) was about 2:1 male:female but with a strong trend towards more women over 2017-2021.

What I really wanted was majors by race (or even better, race and sex, a version of W045 in the form of W010), but no such luck. There are many gaps in their filename sequence so I wonder if something like that exists but is not made public.

Pulling a “compelling government interest” out of her ass in order to directly nullify the clearly written words of the constitution was disastrous enough for me.

Many thanks for replying!

I guess. Oh, if there were only something that could be done to prevent or stave off or all that needless tragedy…

A good place to start would be by reading Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History by Suzanne Humphries, MD, and Roman Bystrianyk.

I have read much pro-vaccine literature over the past few decades. It is time for those who support that viewpoint to read uncomfortable information coming from the other side.

I see the same thing. There is a fifteen year life expectancy gap between the rich parts and poor parts of Indianapolis where I live, according to a study I saw.

There has been a bifurcation among whites. Lower class whites seem increasingly purposeless in their lives. America used to be a country of social mobility but we are moving in the direction of a caste system. Many younger whites from poorer backgrounds are just giving up and turning to a life of drugs, alcohol, and crime.

For the same reason, not too many old people are dying of measles these days. Whereas if the number of anti-vaxxers is sufficiently high, young children will start popping off like flies.

I think you are overestimating the fatality rate of measles. This page estimates 1 in 1,000.
https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/newsroom/topics/measles/index.html

But I trust the historical US data more as being more directly applicable. This indicates more like 1 in 10,000. But what’s a factor of 10?
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.

500 fatalities per year is worth doing something about, but “dropping like flies”?! And that 500 would be assuming the vaccine has no positive impact on the infection and fatality rates of those who ARE vaccinated. Well, should probably multiply that 500 by 1.8 or so to capture population increase.

Measles is more notable for being highly infectious (an R0 of 12-18, which is why it makes a terrible comparison for Covid and other diseases with a much lower R0) than for being deadly.
The basic reproduction number (R0) of measles: a systematic review
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28757186

That high R0 is why measles tends to be the poster child for anti-anti-vax hand wringing. It means an extremely high percentage need to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity.

Thanks for both the reference and analysis. I agree. Here is a 2021 article about that study.
https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/new-study-shows-widening-gap-in-life-expectancy-in-indianapolis

That provides a good overview and has some interesting graphics. In particular, a neighborhood map of life expectancy and a plot of life expectancy vs. median household income. It also links to the full 43 page report.
https://www.savi.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Final2.worlds-further-apart-report-web.pdf

A similar report from 2015.
https://polis.iupui.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Worlds_Apart_Gaps_in_Life_Expectancy.pdf

Who’s still getting that shot?

The vaccines achieved about the same result as everybody in the country losing 10 to 20 pounds.

Well then Charles Stewart Parnell wasn’t Irish either:

https://waterfordtreasures.wixsite.com/wattreasuresblog/post/charles-stewart-parnell-irish-nationalist-lost-english-cricketer-1

Keith Richards turns 80 this month, so it’s an admittedly high bar that Shane failed to clear.

He hasn’t used any drugs for decades.

The reason celebrities are dying like flies is that you are getting old. Talk to a young person, and you’ll find that the people they regard as celebrities are doing just fine.

Not necessarily.

Deaths by drug overdose (often fentanyl related) and suicides are common among many younger celebrities and performers. Also, suicides (much higher now among under 40s).

So in general you are correct. But comparatively, no.

I have noticed that I am increasingly using the expression “younger people.”

I intend to keep doing that until it is merely redundant.

It troubles me that a majority of the replies don’t see that Sailer is trolling the anti-vaxers. I would have thought he would have a smarter than average readership. He doesn’t.

A more casual reader would think: “Sure, all informed people know the vax was a giant bust with bad side effects, but if people in their 90’s died, it’s silly of Steve to say the vax killed them all. I’m confused and I don’t get it.”

To get the “joke,” though, you have to be familiar with Steve’s current persona as an advocate for establishment narratives, who doesn’t have the intellectual curiosity to actually investigate or back up his opinions. And who therefore makes dismissive snarky assertions.

Only then would you realize that he’s actually saying: “I went all-in for the vax and COVID hysteria, and since my ego can’t allow me to be wrong, I just won’t talk about the topic. Except to just pretend all the smart people agree with me, and that everyone else is just a conspiracy theorist.”

The point being, it takes a lot of subtext to understand one bad joke.

Frankly, I’m very interested in whether Jimmy Carter makes it to age 100+. I think that the odds are about 50-50 (maybe at worst a bit less in his favor) at this point in time. I’ve read relatively recently that he still has a lot of time left to go in hospice care. It would be cool to see a centenarian former US President just like we have already previously seen two centenarian former US Cabinet Secretaries (George Shultz and Henry Kissinger).

As a side note, I wonder when exactly Bill and Hillary Clinton are going to die. I suspect that for Bill, it will be in the 2030s and for Hillary in the 2040s. I also wonder where exactly the Clintons would have been buried had Hillary won in 2016. At Bill’s or Hillary’s presidential library: Which one? But with Hillary losing in 2016, it’s fairly obvious that both Clintons will be buried at Bill’s presidential library once they will pass away since there will be no realistic alternative for either one of them.

Biden will be seeing swarms of Hot Wheels Corvettes darting about his room like a high density WW I dogfight. The enemy will be squadrons of
Matchbox Porche 911s.

) how many African Americans are in the faculty of top -20 schools ? I genuinely don’t know , but a tenure track position even if hustbteaching first years is an appealing low rent position

2) ho to any major trade show and see how many African Americans …. At SenixonWest there would be few out of 30k faces

) how many African Americans are in the faculty of top -20 schools ? I genuinely don’t know , but a tenure track position even if hustbteaching first years is an appealing low rent position

2) ho to any major trade show and see how many African Americans …. At Semicon West trade show in the Moscone Center there would be few out of 30k faces

I nominate Alan Greenspan.

https://vaccinateyourfamily.org/remembering-rosalynn-carter/

Please join us in celebrating the life & legacy of our co-founder Rosalynn Carter, a true public health champion. Her decades of advocacy for vaccine access & education will ultimately save millions of lives.
❤️❤️❤️https://t.co/ZaaymnPa8N pic.twitter.com/kQKL97bUpB

— Vaccinate Your Family (@Vaxyourfam) November 20, 2023

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccinate_Your_Family

Vaccinate Your Family (VYF), formerly known as Every Child By Two (ECBT), is a non-profit organization, based in the United States, which advocates for vaccinations. Founded in 1991, its stated goals are to “raise awareness of the critical need for timely immunizations and to foster a systematic way to immunize all of America’s children by age two.”[1] ECBT was founded by former First Lady of the United States Rosalynn Carter and former First Lady of Arkansas Betty Bumpers.[2][3] ECBT was renamed to Vaccinate Your Family in 2018.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalynn_Carter#Advocacy_for_women_and_children

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Bumpers#Advocacy_for_childhood_immunization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Bumpers#Causes

Bumpers and his wife Betty were both known for their dedication to the cause of childhood immunization. The Dale and Betty Bumpers Vaccine Research Center (VRC) at the National Institutes of Health was established by former president Clinton to facilitate research in vaccine development.[20]

not just the corona 19 version of the flu.

Covid and influenza are completely separate viruses. They both infect the respiratory system and can kill the weak and elderly but they are not the same bug. If Covid resembles anything, it resembles certain versions of the common cold. Probably, many thousands of years ago when these cold viruses first made the jump across species, they were just as deadly as Covid (and conversely, Covid will someday be no more deadly than the common cold) but in the interval between the time a new virus appears in a species which has no immunity to it and the time that it settles down into comfortable middle age among people who have already been infected by earlier variants, it can push a lot of people over the edge, especially those with their foot already half way out the door.

The point being, it takes a lot of subtext to understand one bad joke.

The point being that if you are an anti-vaxxer, your subtext is different than normal humans. For example, instead of your biased version, a truly casual reader would write:

A more casual reader would think: “Sure, all informed people know the vax greatly reduces deaths from Covid without otherwise raising the death rate from other causes, but if people in their 90’s died from unrelated causes, when Steve says the vax killed them all, he must be trolling the anti-vaxxers who think that the vax kills you.”

This would be no small thing. Wegovy costs about $270 per WEEK. Compared to that, the vax was cheap. Short of that, good luck getting every American to lose 10 or 20 lbs.

just so many more famous people on earth

…….Just like flies! now I get it!…American celebrities as insects ! works for me.

“And her opinions often came down to “it depends on the facts of each case,”

Citations required.

“But was it really wise to joke about vaccines here on Unz, given the high anti-vax readership?”

Kind of in the same vein when Mr.Sailer makes cracks about the Holocaust. It happened, but quite a few people here think otherwise.

“It guaranteed a bunch of vaccine argument comments. Although perhaps that too was the intent.”

The fest of the matter is that the anti-vaxxers overhype how the “jab” kills of old people. He felt it was time again to poke the bear.

The problem here is that there is a subgroup of people who don’t trust the gummint and Jews. As a result, actual science like the vax which proved to work is automatically dismissed, and a counter narrative predicated on confirmation bias is promoted.

There’s that, but the vaccines are also leaky and result in ADE. Omicron was the vaccine and old, fat diabetics would have some incentive.

It’s actually puzzling to me that of all the things government subsidizes they don’t subsidize physical fitness.

Perhaps Steve meant it was the vax that allowed them to survive the last 2 years of covid, despite being very old or drug-damaged.

It’s surprising Shane MacGowan lasted to 65. I remember when Kirsty McColl died in 2000 hearing a phone-interview tribute he gave which sounded like they’d woken him up in a gutter someplace.

Have you noticed all the unexpected celebrity deaths this week? Henry Kissinger, Shane MacGowan, Charlie Munger, and now Sandra Day O’Connor.

Must be the vax.

So can I have back all the bucks that I sent your way before you started worshipping at the shrine of Anthony Fauci?

Why are you trolling your readers? Something about the young athletes dying from ‘climate change’ must sit well with a numbers guy like you. Must be feeling some sting there.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/crushing-the-coronavirus-curve/

https://www.unz.com/isteve/what-went-wrong-with-the-british-plan/

https://www.unz.com/isteve/moderna-vaccine-is-94-5-effective/

https://www.unz.com/isteve/pfizer-announces-vaccine-is-90-effective/

https://www.unz.com/isteve/what-japan-is-doing-right/

etc

There must be a job somewhere writing for someone who pays so he doesn’t need his beg-a-thons. Just as long as he can toe the line.

“500 fatalities per year is worth doing something about, but ‘dropping like flies’?”

Feel free to find a more correct term for 500 corpses and a thousand cases of encephalitis. How many flies does the typica flyswatter or bugzapper take out on any given Sunday picnic?

I was also thinking more along the lines of this (see also the wikipedia entry on measles):

Measles affects about 20 million people a year, primarily in the developing areas of Africa and Asia… In 1980, 2.6 million people died from measles…and in 1990, 545,000 died due to the disease; by 2014, global vaccination programs had reduced the number of deaths from measles to 73,000.

Again, any of those more dire numbers (even when divided by 20 million) is alarming enough for me to justify the wording I went with, and really, if terminology is all you got to gripe about, maybe you should spend more time going through Alex Bernson’s posts, given that people around here evidently still take him seriously, despite the whoppers introduced by his tendentious re-wording.

As for your factor of 10, I suspect that has to do with all the secondary complications that measles brings on, making the attribution to measles per se more uncertain, and resulting in much higher error bars:

In addition, measles can suppress the immune system for weeks to months, and this can contribute to bacterial superinfections such as otitis media and bacterial pneumonia. Two months after recovery there is a 11–73% decrease in the number of antibodies against other bacteria and viruses.

So did the little baby drop like a fly from measles, or from the pneumonia that set in two months later? Or maybe from the encephalitis that he never really recovered from? There’s going to be wide standard deviation around that, but unless you’re grasping at straws, I think it’s not a hill worth dying on.

Might be your age. My uncle died of sepsis after getting the vax.

Agree mostly.
No huge myocarditis death numbers though. Best research is – as so often – Scandinavian: Hardly any myocarditis-related (!) deaths at all – for nobody. About 15 or so for all of Scandinavia (24 million people) = more or less in the same (negligeable!) region as myocarditis deaths always were – for details see commenter niceland and me below Eugene Kusmiak’s quite resonable Unz-article about Vaccine Safety.

II – – Prof. Nils Hoiby/ Dr. John Campbell and the non-aspirated Covid syrinxes as sources of some severe troubles

It looks as if it was a mistake to apply the Covid vaccines without aspiration of the syringe. Old bio-medical Danish researcher Nils Hoiby**** noticed this – worldwide ! – mistake and made sure that it would be avoided 100% in Denmark.

But here again, something strange happend: The myocarditis-problems seemed to be considerably lower in Denmark then in neighboring Norway BUT nevertheless: In the end, the number of myocarditis-deaths (as I said, in the negligeable ballpark in all of Scandinavia) seemed to not differ in Denmark. (I wrote to the Danish researcher Nils Hoiby and it turned out, he did not bother to find out, what really had happened….

Prof. Hoiby wrote: Look, I’m an old fellow with lots of ideas: I think we did it right and for me, that is enough!

If the medical beauraucry is not interested in the details: So be it! – I also wrote to vaccine-researcher Christine Stabell-Benn about this case and she said: Nils Hoiby’s ideas are all well and fine but the truth is: We have no data to show, whether our aspiration-precautions did make much of a difference – or not. – Such are the Danes: Just make things right – if you have done so: Why look further into this stuff***?!! –

– – Intersting!

***he went on Dr. John Campbells YouTube show and here is something interesting too: Campbell and Hoiby agreed, that – in seldom (!) cases – the non-aspirated syrinx could have caused serious trouble.
John Campbell had such a young man repeatedly on his show, who suffered horribly & badly and Hoiby and Campbell both explained in minute detail why this could well have been caused by the non-aspirated syrinx!

This, if proven right, would be an important insight.

I – as a phtographer/philosopher (!) find Hpoiby/Campbell’s arguemnts plausible and think more efforts should go into this problem – but I just don’t – so far – see somebody from the medical profession interested enough to invest more work.****

****the decision, no tto aspirate the covid-syringes was made by the WHO (!) on the basis of a – canadian, if I remember right – kid’s doctor who argued, that it would be easier to vaccinate kids if the syrinx would not be aspirated, because that would make the whole vaccination process faster – and less – – – – – traumatic (the apirated syrinx might !!!! show some traces (!!!!) of blood and thus – – – – the kids needs should be protected by nbot aspirating the syrinx . –

– The Coddling of the American Mind (Haidt/Lukianoff) : One more time.-… (We live in regressive / snowflake-y times. – ((sigh)) -…).

You really don’t see Steve is mocking you?

maybe you should spend more time going through Alex Berenson’s posts, given that people around here evidently still take him seriously, despite the whoppers introduced by his tendentious re-wording

True.

That second picture should have a trigger warning.

“they don’t subsidize physical fitness.”

Parks, trails, bike lanes? After school programs. Summer programs. I use a government owned trail or park at least once a week. And in some jurisdictions the local YMCA will receive subsidies.

Your statement with interpolations is: The problem . . . is that there is a subgroup of people who don’t trust the gummint [for good reason]; a subgroup who don’t trust Jews [for good reason]; a subgroup who don’t trust vaccine manufacturers [for various reasons]; but it is the latter group and suspicions surrounding manufacturer incentives that lie at the heart of the vaccine concerns you decry. You treat concern over Jews as a significant concern relative to vaccine opposition when it is not. That’s just you making things up.

“There is a subgroup of people who don’t trust the gummint [for good reason]”; a subgroup who don’t trust Jews [for good reason]; a subgroup who don’t trust vaccine manufacturers [for various reasons”

And there is a subgroup who doesn’t trust government or the Jews. Is this not a true statement? I would venture to say you fall in tiis subgroup.

As far as the “good reasons”, that is debatable.

Your last line is the clincher.

I don’t know if the “vaccine” actually killed anyone or not. Probably but I don’t know and don’t especially care (though I am glad that there are people who do).

What matters is that the whole thing was a scam from start to finish. The Panic is what caused most of the deaths. And as soon as The Panic abated the powers that be needed an exit strategy. They had riled up all these nuts and had declared them authority figures but now that The Panic was ending they needed a way to declare victory without saying, “oops. I guess we screwed up”.

So they tried to force everyone to get vaxxed so that there would be no control group left who could say, “Never vaxxed and still alive!”

I was in New York where all sorts of laws were in place disallowing one’s entry into normative society without showing a vax card.

All so that Authority wouldn’t have to admit a mistake. That (rather than the iffyness if the vaccine) was the real crime.

Personally I didn’t let it stop me from going to bars, movies and museums. I’d just tell the front door person, “sorry, I don’t have a card” and I’d walk in. It always worked.

But most people have smaller cojones and were more brainwashed with the belief that Obedience To Authority is somehow righteous.

Steve’s joke isn’t really working here because most of his audience is actually intelligent and (at least on covid related matters) not “Doomers”, neither about the virus, nor about the vax. So he’s coming across here as attacking a twitter strawman.

Steve ought to be pleased with our reaction. It means he has a saner audience than most.

And, overall, I think Steve would agree that the evidence for the jab’s efficacy is slight to non-existent.

Your point that, “doctors and so-called public health professionals don’t get to tell us what to do” is exactly right.

Sure, that point would be inaccurate if we had good reason to believe in the jab’s necessity and efficacy, but as you and others have noted, that was very obviously not the case.

Falling for the Establishment’s COVID propaganda, along with his warball insights on Ukraine, has diminished the level of devotion among Mr. Sailer’s steady commenters.

But perhaps he’s slowly attracting a new type of commenter: ones with more conventional views on Covid and Putin’s aggression.

You mock people who are wrong.

Steve’s support of the lock downs was nothing short of cowardice. He threw millions of young people under the bus for no reason.

I will never forgive Steve or the other cowards for what they did. I have kids. I’ve seen the damage that these reprehensible cowards forced on millions of children.

The least that they could do is admit what they did, but they won’t because, well, they’re cowards.

Fuck him and fuck them.

It’s hilarious that you guys always use the same rhetorical tricks. I guess they.work so why not stick them. Still, you must get bored.

As to whites, I completely agree with you. We have agency. We screwed up. Jews are nothing more than a con man or drug pusher. Granted, you use mob like tactics to get control of the commanding heights of society, but it really wouldn’t take much to stop you.

We didn’t. That’s on us, and we’re paying the price. But as you might have noticed from the hysterical reaction of Jews recently, more and more people are starting to wake up. Granted, we’ve been so defeated that it’s hard to see us doing anything, but it not a great sign for your side.

Correct.

Which is why I was never into the racial thing. It’s the old Haves vs HaveNots, and playing the racial game is just playing into the Divide & Conquer strategy of the Haves.

Does anyone think that the owners of society actually care about poor black people? LOL. They care approximately as much as they care about poor white people, poor short people, poor tall people, poor jews, poor catholics, poor chinamen or poor anybody.

All the pro-immigration stuff (not from the kids, from the people who brainwash the kids) is likewise just part of the ancient strategy to divide and conquer.

I’ve never gotten into the racial thing for that very reason. I refuse to play the game.

Listen, the wealthy have consciences just like we do and by making us fight those at or below our own socio-econonomic or “power” level they feel justified in continuing to rule over us.

Gandhi showed how it can be done. I’m no Gandhi and I assume no one else here is either, but by being better than the rulers (rather than just like them in our own relatively tiny regions of power) we will unseat them.

Not to open up a conversation about Gandhi, but I can not recommend the eponymous movie highly enough. It is worth watching on a regular basis.

Awesome Steve. As one of your few readers when you came out and were actually interested in some sort of evidence-based approach to dealing with Covid, to side with you… lol!

Fact is… elimination through transmission reduction worked great for the 18 months until vaccines could be developed, and the vaccines worked great at minimising the hospital burden and overall death rate. Worked great in ANZ, AND we got a 3 year immigration pause.

Somehow much of the alt-right forgot they cared about immigration during this time of hysteria.

Btw was Kissinger really that bad?

Please don’t bring the jews into this 😂

I mean, it’s a free country so knock yourself out but you must know that our proverbial gregariousness was pretty evident on the Anti-Panic side as well. Berenson, Weinstein, etc were among the most prominent skeptics and were quite broadly persecuted for it.

In fact I would guesstimate that my fellow semites were more prominent among the doubters than they were among the government cheerleaders. Heck, even some of the main female skeptics were jewish! One doesn’t expect much rationality from women during a panic (and one didn’t see much) but among those precious few women standing athwart covidpocalypse was an admirable number of jewesses.

I’m pointing out your relentless meretriciousness. Imagine anything you want, I could care less just as I imagine you could care less about those who expose your practice of using this site to work on your sophistry skills.

Vaccines seemingly take credit for improvements in health due to increased accessibility to clean water and simple improvements in diet and hygiene.

That’s completely untrue.

Smallpox, to take the most spectacular example, was a hideous and often fatal disease that has been completely wiped out by an extended vaccination campaign around the world. It was spread in the air and had nothing to do with water or food.

Many infectious diseases are spread in the air.

I’d go on with more examples but you won’t believe me.

Wouldn’t you say these are overlapping groups? Maybe not 100% but with a high degree of correlation.