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From Adweek:

Fox News Q2 2020 Ratings: Tucker Carlson Averaged 4.33 Million Viewers at 8 p.m., the Largest Audience in Cable News History

By A.J. Katz on Jun. 30, 2020 – 3:48 PMComment

Maybe he might even pick up a mainstream national advertiser or two?

From today, here are Tucker’s 3 things voters must demand from the Republican Party (via Fox News):

The host called on Republican voters to “demand three things from their candidates. And if they don’t provide them, don’t vote for them.

“First is vigorous defense of total equality under the law. We are equal because we are citizens. Every American has precisely the same rights as every other American. Period.”…

Carlson next called on Republicans to “defend our freedom of speech.”

“We are not a free society without that,” Carlson said. “This is not simply a debate about the First Amendment and its limits. It’s bigger than that and more important. If you can’t articulate something, if you’re not allowed, you can’t think. And that’s precisely why authoritarians try to control language. They’re trying to control your mind. Republicans should lead the fight against this without shame. Americans have the absolute right to tell the truth. This is not negotiable.

“Nor, by the way, is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. Everything depends on it. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems. Try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. If certain categories of thought are off limits to you, it doesn’t work. The power grid collapses. Planes crash. Society degrades. No speech means no science, no art, no civilization.

Carlson’s final point was “we must never forget that in the end, the Republican Party exists to serve the interests of normal people.”

In lesser news, iSteve broke the one million page view mark in June, my highest monthly figure since a handful of million page months in 2017-2018.

All it takes for Tucker and me to get high ratings is anarchy in the streets.

Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020.

I could have lived with that …

 
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  1. Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes. So good news, but with some caveats.

    • Replies: @Moral Stone
    @Thulean Friend

    While I agree with you, I’d much rather it be Hannity than someone on CNN or MSNBC.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @Dan Hayes
    @Thulean Friend

    Hannity is an idiot, although a somewhat/sometimes useful idiot!

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Thulean Friend


    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes.
     
    Perhaps he's like Bill O'Reilly was to The Silents. O'Reilly always spoke slowly and deliberately like he was telling his senile uncle in the nursing home that it was time to take his pills.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Thulean Friend

    "Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes"

    Hannity is the king of Dim-Bulb Bartenders Who Will Not Shut Their Pie-Holes.

    , @Magic Dirt Resident
    @Thulean Friend

    I'm sure there's tons of overlap; they are back to back on the same channel after all. Anecdotally, my boomer parents started watching Tucker every night the last few months.

    , @For what it's worth
    @Thulean Friend

    I think Ross Douthat observed that the boycotters targeted Tucker and Laura Ingraham for boycotts because they were seen as threats. They stopped threatening boycotts against Hannity because they feared that any replacement for him would do more "harm" than he does.

    One cheerful liberal guest on Tucker said, "Tucker, I know that you're an intelligent guy, unlike the host of the show that airs after you . . ." Tucker smirked and said, "Don't," but you could tell he loved hearing that. He often smirks just before passing the baton to Hannity.

    Trump has praised Tucker as a "smart man . . . a thinking man." He's never said anything like that about Hannity.

    Someone on this chain praised Hannity's guests. It is true, he often has informed guests who do real journalism.

    , @KenH
    @Thulean Friend

    I don't watch Hannity anymore. Tucker deals with serious issues and as soon as he's done Hannity starts babbling about the Durham investigating and how the deep state is on the run. And rather than being nuanced and objective about the George Floyd case he threw the officers right under the bus as did Judge Jeannie and many other cucks.

  2. I think you should rename yourself Kassandros.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @22pp22

    Unlike poor Tiresias, Steve was able to keep his vision.

    (You might want to get a pair of these special “computer glasses” that help against eye-strain from computer screen light.)

    https://www.amazon.com/computer-glasses/s?k=computer+glasses

  3. Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020.

    I could have lived with that …

    Surely better to have it all exposed rather than let the slow rot continue?

    Accelerate and the reaction will occur all the sooner, I hope.

  4. quite a revealing statement that millions read you yet no one acts. can only be saying something about the nature of your writing or the culture of your fans

    • Troll: Alexander Turok
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @dreydl smasher

    What's your alternative?

    That readers should go around mowing down people we all dislike, shouting: "Steve made me do it!".

    SS is doing his job just fine. There is a time for everything, saith the Preacher....

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Alfa158

    , @Polynikes
    @dreydl smasher

    What makes you think no one acts?

    , @Anonymous
    @dreydl smasher

    dreydl smasher commenting history - "over 10 comments since 2015."

    Yes, paid provocateur, trying to provoke a twofer - rabid anti-semitism and statements that could be interpreted as "terrorist" i.e. non-approved violence, unlike the Deep State sponsored "Antifa."

    BTW re Antifa - all the media "pundits" earnestly and relentlessly assure us that Antifa is absolutely amorphous - no leadership, no mid management, no definite followers. A perfect will-o'-the-wisp. Obviously, all approved talking points. Yet somehow, the diaphanous, intangible Antifa manages to put real $$$ into the pockets of dreydl smasher.

    Also, why do PROPONENTS of "Antifa" want to bring back the 1920s and 1930s in Germany? Are "Flappers" coming back too?

  5. anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn’t give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    I'm very happy that someone with Tucker's impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @anonymous, @anon, @Ragno, @Corvinus, @map

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @anonymous

    I'm sure Tucker reads Sailer, but I think Tucker came to his views honestly. His honesty, and his respect for his audience, is part of why he's been so successful.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @e

    , @Dan Hayes
    @anonymous

    You could say the same thing about Pat Buchanan. But Pat might likely would give the same gracious response as Steve (vide Comment #10).

    , @Craig Nelsen
    @anonymous


    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn’t give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?
     
    You sound like that nasty girl on the school bus (Hey, Melinda, you know what Cheryl said about you at band practice) who grew up to be a hooker.
    , @J.Ross
    @anonymous

    Show me. Where Tucker. Pretended golf was fun. Show me, please. I can wait all night. Show me Tucker caring about golf architecture, you so-and-so.

    , @RichardTaylor
    @anonymous

    People have been craving something like Tucker for 30 years. If anything, he's still stuck on the "race doesn't matter" crap (but then again, he has to be, he's on thin ice). So, in reality, Tucker is just a temporary host as most Whites will move on to something more racial in time.

  6. Likely one of the best “I told you so” scenes in cinema.

  7. @22pp22
    I think you should rename yourself Kassandros.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBlr_Ix4Y1E

    Replies: @Kronos

    Unlike poor Tiresias, Steve was able to keep his vision.

    (You might want to get a pair of these special “computer glasses” that help against eye-strain from computer screen light.)

    https://www.amazon.com/computer-glasses/s?k=computer+glasses

  8. Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they’re not doing? They’re not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain’t getting their vote. And let’s face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It’s hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we’re at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we’re not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Boethiuss


    MAGA-friendly
     
    I just saw a bumper reading "Make America Native Again".

    I kind of like "Make America America Again". Pairs well with riot footage.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Cato

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Boethiuss


    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they’re not doing? They’re not voting for Donald Trump.
     
    Nonsense. They'll vote for Trump, if they have to. But not with much (if any) enthusiasm.

    You are right that Trump is a useless blowhard. You are wrong that there is any meaningful alternative.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @Kronos
    @Boethiuss

    Have you thought about the massive level of Democrat protest votes against Biden?

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Boethiuss

    It is getting increasingly easy to spot the blackpillers and demoralizers.

    Replies: @Ozymandias

    , @The Alarmist
    @Boethiuss


    Politically speaking, we’re at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry.
     
    You do realise that Dunkirk was about losing and running away, right? It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans and then running for the exits when the war quickly went against them.

    So, to where do you propose we run?

    Maybe you should have chosen to call this a Bastogne moment, a moment where the American military really showed its mettle in the middle of a series of screwups that almost cost them the war in the west.

    Replies: @Matra, @Boethiuss

    , @EmailAsID
    @Boethiuss


    But we’re not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.
     
    Can you please point out the obvious? I'm stupid this morning.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Boethiuss

    "Lots of people are reading Sailer"

    Steve is tip-of-the-spear, no doubt. But he's read clandestinely. He's forbidden fruit.

    , @botazefa
    @Boethiuss

    It's hard to find the Trump voters right now. No doubt about it.

    But if the DNC was so confident about Biden, why are they funding Black Lives Matter and stoking the Covid hysteria?

    And this latest nonsense about Russian-paid bounties for dead GIs in Afghanistan..

    I've seen the 2020 election polling data.
    Where did all Trump's support go? To Biden?

    Is it possible that, oh I don't know, polling models are not very good?

    Biden or Trump, no matter. The game is over for the America I grew up in.

    Replies: @res

    , @Kyle
    @Boethiuss

    Yeah, no. The gun toting mansion dwellers are voting for trump with 100% likelihood.

  9. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:

    4.3 mill? Big deal, Claira Janover got that many viewers in ~5 hrs; will have her own Disney/Funko princess figurine line by next month, at this rate

    • Replies: @HA
    @Anonymous

    "Big deal, Claira Janover got that many viewers in ~5 hrs; will have her own Disney/Funko princess figurine line by next month, at this rate."

    She'll need the work. According to her, she was fired from her job at Deloitte a few hours ago.


    “The job that I’d worked really hard to get and meant a lot to me has called me and fired me because of everything.”... Janover’s LinkedIn account lists her as an “incoming government and public business service analyst” at Deloitte, a UK-based accounting firm.... Janover, who contended that the ["i'ma stab"] message was an analogy rather than a serious threat, has since deleted that video, but said that she’s since received a deluge of threats against her own life and safety...

    Through tears, a defiant Janover vowed not to back down. “I’m too strong for you. I’m too strong for any of you ‘All Lives Matter,’ racist Trump supporters,” she said...

    She also took a parting shot at Deloitte... “I’m sorry, Deloitte, that you can’t see that,” she said. “That you were cowardice [sic] enough to fight somebody who’s going to make an indelible change in the world and is going to have an impact.”
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Pierre de Craon

  10. In an age where political debate is increasingly Brezhnevite, a willingness to just think outside the box and ignore traditional partisan stances is a breath of fresh air, and in a world where Tucker Carlson’s more forthrightly against further Middle Eastern fiascos than MSNBC, people with a modicum of intellectual independence are going to question how much traditional political lines should matter.

    More significantly, the people who got the COVID pandemic right from the outset tended to be a bit outside the political mainstream, whether on the Left (Matt Stoller, Jon Stokes), the Right (Razib Khan, Steve Bannon) or heterodox (Balaji Srinivasan). Thanks to the Internet, the media cannot memory-hole the reality that Democrats initially thought worrying about the pandemic was racist or that Republicans viewed it as just another flu. Or the connection between the volte face the authorities pulled in response to protests and riots, and the current pandemic surge.

    Traditional political legitimacy has been on the decline for some time in the US: this year, it might implode entirely. We’re slated to live in interesting times.

    • Agree: wren
  11. Record high ratings but no corporate advertising. Reminds me of a candidate or two, who had nothing and no one on their side except voters. Goliaths usually win, though, don’t they.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Replies: @indocon
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Record high ratings but no corporate advertising.... We are getting close to solving one of Steve's really interesting riddles, does advertisement really work? The day of reckoning for an industry that has grown to almost half a trillion $s is near.

    , @gregor
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Conservatives need to learn their lesson here. This is an example of why the muh free market/muh private company arguments are all bogus. They do not understand how power works. The left does. A related issue is that liberals enthusiastically use the government to push their stuff whereas conservatives don’t even try because government is bad or something.

  12. In spite of all their friends could say,
    On a winter’s morn, on a stormy day,
    In a Sieve they went to sea!
    And when the Sieve turned round and round,
    And every one cried, ‘You’ll all be drowned!’
    They called aloud, ‘Our Sieve ain’t big,
    But we don’t care a button! we don’t care a fig!’

    “The Jumblies”
    Edward Lear

    But seriously..two terrific journalists, worthy of this large following.

  13. @anonymous
    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn't give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @Dan Hayes, @Craig Nelsen, @J.Ross, @RichardTaylor

    I’m very happy that someone with Tucker’s impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.

    • Thanks: Polynikes, JimDandy
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Tucker has been doing a great job of telling the truth without slipping outside the Overton Window frame.

    I was able to show my mother VDare's interview with the founder of Gab, but she still had to protest that saying whites should live separately from blacks was wrong.

    Censorship, firings, and social cancellations aren't enough. We need to wait, unfortunately, for the first BLM racial murders before we can talk real sense publicly.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @c matt

    , @anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Don't be so gracious when Tucker lacks graciousness. It makes me think that he is some low class hustler who won't have staying power with this new turn.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @For what it's worth

    , @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    OT: coming on the heels of the democrats denouncing Trump's "white supremacy" rally at ... Mount Rushmore (which the dems totally won't demolish the second they get the chance), the Western Canon is about to be burned:


    “Were my colleagues and I right to think that the institution to which we had given much of our professional lives could be reformed? Was our particular culture as teachers of Western culture compromised to the core? If it was, must we then, well, defund the teaching of the canon?”

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/prufrock/a-muddled-argument-against-the-western-canon/
     

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @Ragno
    @Steve Sailer

    Attaboy, Steve. Don't let these 'clever' bottomfeeders trick you into taking them even momentarily seriously.

    You, Carlson, and a tiny handful of others provide a sunbeam of hope in what seems like encroaching darkness on all sides. For which, humble thanks (but keep it up!)

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    "I’m very happy that someone with Tucker’s impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America."

    According to Who/Whom?

    "Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020."

    How elitist of you to say. Are you channeling your inner Sarah Jeong?

    Replies: @Hearts on Fire

    , @map
    @Steve Sailer

    My God...

    Tucker even called out the propositional nation.

  14. Carlson/Sailer 2024

    • Agree: Charon, 22pp22
    • Replies: @Gordo
    @TelfoedJohn


    Carlson/Sailer 2024
     
    Should be the other way round but politics doesn't work like that.

    Go for it.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    , @DrWatson
    @TelfoedJohn

    It would be an interesting thought experiment how this would play out in 2020 should Trump abandon running this year. Would the powers that be shut him (Tucker) up instantly? Would they find a grip on Tucker/Sailer? Maybe they are more useful in their current positions as voices of sanity.

    It is doubtful 2024 finds America still in one piece. There is hardly any common ground among its citizens. What would it be? Democracy is (almost) dead. No manufacturing jobs. Economic hardship. The banking sector & pharmaceuticals exclusively in the hands of the Deep State. Universities also. Health care is pofit oriented.

    What are the possible solutions?
    1. Americans must found their own (even if smaller in the beginning) banks.
    2. Manufacturing must be restarted. As the dollar will be inevitably depreciated, this is going to be an increasingly attractive possibility.
    3. Israel's role in American politics has to be re-evaluated and obviously downsized.
    4. The two-party system has to be broken. US congressmen and senators have to be held accountable and serve their own constituency, instead of a foreign power.
    5. Blacks and Whites have to be reconciled, making them realise that they are not enemies of each other.
    6. Universities and other elite institutions (those run on taxpayers' money) have to restore meritocracy. The best and worthiest must have the most prominent positions, not the most connected.
    7. Blacks have to be made to realise that it is not 'White supremacy' that holds them back. In fact, they are much better off than in most countries.
    8. The whole notion of 'White supremacy' must be retired. Everybody is a White supremacist at the bottom of their heart, including Blacks and Jews because they know Whites can innovate and build functioning societies like no other race. Therefore 'White supremacism' is a meaningless term, something like 'Earth roundism' because it is as self-evident as that.

    Replies: @For what it's worth, @DrWatson

    , @uman
    @TelfoedJohn

    I'd buy that for a dollar!!!

  15. Maybe he might even pick up a mainstream national advertiser or two?

    If it was “all about money” he would. Unfortunately I doubt that will happen.

    Therefore it is not “all about money”.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @anon

    What? You haven't loaded up on MyPillow products yet?

  16. We’re luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve? Your friend Scott McConnell golfs at one of his clubs and mentioned chatting with Trump in the locker room once – maybe you need to relocate to DC for a bit and golf with him more.

    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    Coulter is very good at attacking, but not so good at leading. Trump needs ideas and suggestions, not attacks.

    Replies: @Joseph Doaks

    , @Boethiuss
    @Dave Pinsen


    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.
     
    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What's the point?

    If Trump were somehow capable of changing gears, and if he were in regular communication with the right people who could tell him what and how to change, who'd listen?

    Normie America has an inclination to tune out Trump, and imo during the virus crisis that inclination has been hardened beyond any meaningful possibility of being reversed . We are at Dunkirk now and it's time to quit worrying about what Trump does or what happens to him, and start trying to save whatever might be salvageable so we have the maximum resources available to fight in a post-Trump world.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Daniel Williams

    , @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    Maybe Steve IS in front of Trump and those who advise him....
    The "Sailer Strategy" WORKED in 2016...
    Trump got the electoral votes from states with working class whites that HRC ignored and who had previously voted D.
    The MSM does not discuss this since ANY analysis of such topics is FORBIDDEN. Sailer himself is forbidden. No one even condemns him since it is best not to draw awareness to him. Others get "cancelled" but Sailer just gets ignored, lest anyone realize that he is quite astute, as are many of his readers.
    But why should we suppose that the Sailer Strategy per se will work again? Is there any reason to suppose that Obama-Obama-Trump voters will go back to the D party? (For better or worse, I'm one of them... it's complicated...) (I won't...EVER.) Perhaps it makes more sense to pick up 10+% of the black vote by showing the D party to be a bunch of ABSOLUTE LOSERS. The black male vote for Trump in 2016 was less than I expected, but I realize now that they got overly swayed by the media. Subsequent events have broken that hold in many.

    , @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen


    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.
     
    This is the kind of stuff you expect to hear in dictatorships. There, it makes sense to only give "constructive criticism" to the dictator because you have no alternative. But we could have had an alternative. If Tucker Carlson and Steve Sailer and all the rest of the national conservative Right had condemned him, we could have had a candidate with 20% of the vote in Iowa. He would have been forced to listen. But this didn't happen because of the spinelessness of the Right.

    After this is all over, after Trump's gone, we're going to remember who was brave enough to tell the truth, and who wasn't.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , @Alden
    @Dave Pinsen

    I saw that yesterday. The American Conservative nerd was just going on and on about what the GOP would do for blacks if elected. Turned the TV off a few minutes into his talk. Carlson looked skeptical and scornful.

    Replies: @For what it's worth, @David In TN, @Mr. Anon

  17. @anonymous
    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn't give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @Dan Hayes, @Craig Nelsen, @J.Ross, @RichardTaylor

    I’m sure Tucker reads Sailer, but I think Tucker came to his views honestly. His honesty, and his respect for his audience, is part of why he’s been so successful.

    • Agree: Charon, RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Dave Pinsen


    I’m sure Tucker reads Sailer, but I think Tucker came to his views honestly. His honesty, and his respect for his audience, is part of why he’s been so successful.
     
    Have Tucker's views modified, or have events made his views what they have become?

    Post-Reagan Republicanism seemed somewhat tenable in, say, 2000. It's just that with the passage of time and events it no longer seems to be an appropriate framework to represent the interests of legacy Americans in 2020.

    There was at least the lip service then that any losses from "free trade" would be more than compensated for when the blue collar American workers were retrained for state of the art technical jobs which paid better and were less dangerous than their manufacturing jobs. Perhaps some like PJB or Steve foresaw the folly - and that the interests of capital were so craven that they had only ever intended to reap the financial benefits of wage arbitrage - but there simply wasn't the breadth of experience that we now have to conclude that this was an utter and absolute failure of policy. It was a front for people who buy labor to circumvent the American worker, no different than immigration.
    , @e
    @Dave Pinsen

    Tucker is intelligent and articulate and like Steve, he reads the social scientists whose work is rooted in diligent research. Heather MacDonald is a guest at times. I wish she'd get more air time.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  18. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    MAGA-friendly

    I just saw a bumper reading “Make America Native Again”.

    I kind of like “Make America America Again”. Pairs well with riot footage.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Reg Cæsar

    'I just saw a bumper reading “Make America Native Again”.'

    I'm tempted to go with 'Make America White Again.'

    We're coming to that, that's for sure.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Cato
    @Reg Cæsar


    I kind of like “Make America America Again”. Pairs well with riot footage.
     
    MAAA -- sounds like a child yelling for his mother to come in from the fields. But I do like it: the America I grew up in (earliest memories from 1958) was a wonderful place, where we all felt patriotic -- on the same team, and very, very proud.
  19. The Left has been aiming for Tucker for quite some time. These ratings make him the JK Rowling of the cable world – like Rowling, they’ll cancel the haters before they cancel Tucker. And if they do manage to cancel Tucker he’s smart enough to rebound somehow. In fact I think Tucker would be a lot more influential if he abandoned his show and launched a real political movement.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Wilkey

    Tucker preps his segments. There are interviews with him in which, speaking spontaneously, he acts goofy and sarcastic or becomes shrill. Not good looks for pols.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Richard B, @Anonymous

  20. Congrats, Steve. Richly deserved. And don’t worry about Tucker, he doesn’t need any advertisers. The viewership he brings to Fox is worth more to his bosses–and heavy hitters there, like Sean Hannity–than any ads. Then again, that’s coming from a guy who turns the channel as soon as he hears Hannity’s voice.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @JimDandy


    Then again, that’s coming from a guy who turns the channel as soon as he hears Hannity’s voice.
     
    I'm always reminded of Lawrence Auster's characterization of Hannity: "He looks stupid. He sounds stupid. He is stupid."

    Hannity is such an obvious tool: a meathead, a brainless propagandist. He's like an Irish-American Julius Streicher.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  21. @anonymous
    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn't give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @Dan Hayes, @Craig Nelsen, @J.Ross, @RichardTaylor

    You could say the same thing about Pat Buchanan. But Pat might likely would give the same gracious response as Steve (vide Comment #10).

  22. Steve, you and Tucker got at least one thing in common. You’re honest. Honesty is the primary virtue. All else follows.

  23. Anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Disagree: indocon
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous


    She represents the future of elites in America.
     
    If you mean her specifically, she was the only child of a single Jewish school-teacher mom, age 68, who died last year of cancer in her sophomore year. No mention of a dad, at all. That's a pretty rough start, and the Harvard degree will be her only asset, I daresay, for some time, as she tries to get a toehold in the elites.

    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Twinkie, @fish, @International Jew

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    From her last name and light (hazel?) eyes, I suspect she's part white. I wonder if the same dynamic Jason Whitlock described about black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.

    https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1275886856534515713?s=20

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Dave Pinsen

    , @indocon
    @Anonymous

    The concept of elites only works if the masses accept them as their overlords, I just don't see the various sub group of whites accepting this braud as their overload, like they accepted the WASP corporate executive in 60's and 70's and Jewish wall street fat cats since 80's.

    Replies: @wren, @RichardTaylor

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Anonymous

    Her grandfather could have been one of those Japanese soldiers who bayoneted American GI's who fell out of line on the Bataan Death March.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anonymous

    "She represents the future of elites in America"

    Hard to dispute, considering the abysmal nature of American elites. More depressingly, she's emblematic of the distressing state of a lot of young non-[b]lack women. Young [b]lack women though are doing just fine; their self-esteem levels are off the charts.

    , @Prester John
    @Anonymous

    More proof, as if we need one, that intelligence and maturity are mutually exclusive. Would love for the shrinks to devise an SMT (Scholastic Maturity Test).

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anonymous

    Sounds like someone unable to catch a cute white boy, unlike all of her much cuter friends.

    , @Kyle
    @Anonymous

    She speaks in Ebonics her IQ can’t be over 115.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous

    "The Harvard graduate who said in a TikTok video that she would “stab” anyone who told her “All Lives Matter” revealed in a new pair of recordings that she has lost her job over the perceived threats and ensuing furor."

    Not suprisingly, it's all DJT's fault.

    She's a cute girl; it's hard to believe someone could be so hate filled by 21.

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/01/harvard-grad-claira-janover-lost-deloitte-job-over-tiktok-stab-threat/

  24. @anonymous
    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn't give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @Dan Hayes, @Craig Nelsen, @J.Ross, @RichardTaylor

    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn’t give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?

    You sound like that nasty girl on the school bus (Hey, Melinda, you know what Cheryl said about you at band practice) who grew up to be a hooker.

  25. @Dave Pinsen
    We're luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve? Your friend Scott McConnell golfs at one of his clubs and mentioned chatting with Trump in the locker room once - maybe you need to relocate to DC for a bit and golf with him more.

    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you've both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1278188926025506816?s=20

    Replies: @Anon, @Boethiuss, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Alden

    Coulter is very good at attacking, but not so good at leading. Trump needs ideas and suggestions, not attacks.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
    @Anon

    Trump needs to keep his campaign promises.

  26. @Wilkey
    The Left has been aiming for Tucker for quite some time. These ratings make him the JK Rowling of the cable world - like Rowling, they'll cancel the haters before they cancel Tucker. And if they do manage to cancel Tucker he's smart enough to rebound somehow. In fact I think Tucker would be a lot more influential if he abandoned his show and launched a real political movement.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Tucker preps his segments. There are interviews with him in which, speaking spontaneously, he acts goofy and sarcastic or becomes shrill. Not good looks for pols.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Chrisnonymous

    Someone with far worse optics than that is currently President

    , @Richard B
    @Chrisnonymous


    he acts goofy and sarcastic or becomes shrill.
     
    There's the written word and there's public speaking.

    Not everyone's good at both.

    Regarding Tucker, it depends on the guest, or possibly other things as well.

    Sometimes's he on and sometimes not.

    But in either case he comes off as more human, more down to earth and authentic than just about anything I've ever seen on TV.

    The bottom line: the highest ratings in cable news history.

    , @Anonymous
    @Chrisnonymous

    I know one of his writers.

    Hes a shy Ivy League debate geek intellectual from the rural Midwest.

    He couldnt be a tv host or run for office. There are tradeoffs.

  27. @Thulean Friend
    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes. So good news, but with some caveats.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb, @Magic Dirt Resident, @For what it's worth, @KenH

    While I agree with you, I’d much rather it be Hannity than someone on CNN or MSNBC.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes, Charon
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Moral Stone

    Are their ratings still in the toilet?

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

  28. Basado y pildora roja

  29. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    I'm very happy that someone with Tucker's impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @anonymous, @anon, @Ragno, @Corvinus, @map

    Tucker has been doing a great job of telling the truth without slipping outside the Overton Window frame.

    I was able to show my mother VDare’s interview with the founder of Gab, but she still had to protest that saying whites should live separately from blacks was wrong.

    Censorship, firings, and social cancellations aren’t enough. We need to wait, unfortunately, for the first BLM racial murders before we can talk real sense publicly.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    There were 8 BLM racial murders of cops in about 10 days in July 2016.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @c matt
    @Chrisnonymous


    whites should live separately from blacks was wrong
     
    It is wrong. The correct thinking is "whites should be allowed to live separately from blacks." That's the point of freedom of association. Neither forced to segregate, nor forced to integrate.
  30. anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    I'm very happy that someone with Tucker's impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @anonymous, @anon, @Ragno, @Corvinus, @map

    Don’t be so gracious when Tucker lacks graciousness. It makes me think that he is some low class hustler who won’t have staying power with this new turn.

    • Disagree: Cloudbuster, Redman, Art
    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @anonymous

    This is what it looks like when someone is (clumsily) trying to sow dissent in the ranks.

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @For what it's worth
    @anonymous

    Is the goal to have Tucker invite Steve on his show only for the series to be cancelled during the following commercial break, if the interview even stays on the air that long? Is the goal to have Tucker become as much a persona non grata as Steve? Then Nikki Haley could take his spot with 300 minutes a week about bombing Iran and conquering Venezuela. Sheesh, such silliness.

  31. A lot of online boomer aged conservative commenters don’t like Tucker. They don’t like that he cares about policy and criticizes Trump for selling out. They want him to just be a mindless GOP cheerleader like Hannity.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @ATBOTL

    We have one or two right here in this thread!

    , @znon
    @ATBOTL

    It should be kept in mind after the last few months that the coalition of the core can't afford to conduct purges amongst its ranks before significant victories. Read: Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell to imagine reaping the results of that.

    for the illiterate, See 1:11/3:32 and 2:05 / 3:32 Remember: we need every swinging dick we can get.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Yc2vtAmwM

  32. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they’re not doing? They’re not voting for Donald Trump.

    Nonsense. They’ll vote for Trump, if they have to. But not with much (if any) enthusiasm.

    You are right that Trump is a useless blowhard. You are wrong that there is any meaningful alternative.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Mr. Anon


    You are right that Trump is a useless blowhard. You are wrong that there is any meaningful alternative.
     
    Could be but I don't think so. Especially in light of the sort of scenarios that people are talking about, including here, the idea that Trump doesn't make it Election Day seems increasingly less outlandish every day.

    Among other things, how committed is Trump to playing out his hand and losing to Biden by say, 11 points? Not very much I don't believe. Trump is good when the chips are down, but things are different when there's no hope. If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he'd be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden's lead against Trump: there's no moves available to shake things up.

    Supposedly over the last week or so, Trump has been talking with his people about giving Biden a different nickname. "Sleepy Joe" just isn't getting the job done. Maybe if he were "Dopey Joe" instead, everything would be completely different. Right. At some point even Trump gets the idea of futility.

    Replies: @Thomas, @G. Wilkers, @c matt

  33. @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Tucker has been doing a great job of telling the truth without slipping outside the Overton Window frame.

    I was able to show my mother VDare's interview with the founder of Gab, but she still had to protest that saying whites should live separately from blacks was wrong.

    Censorship, firings, and social cancellations aren't enough. We need to wait, unfortunately, for the first BLM racial murders before we can talk real sense publicly.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @c matt

    There were 8 BLM racial murders of cops in about 10 days in July 2016.

    • Agree: SINCERITY.net
    • Thanks: Charon
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    You're way too logical, Steve. There are, of course, lots and lots of explicitly racial murders, even torture-murders, by blacks of whites. But to break through CrimeStop, it's got to happen now at the same time as the BLM news, so the things are emotionally associated in the brain.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

  34. @JimDandy
    Congrats, Steve. Richly deserved. And don't worry about Tucker, he doesn't need any advertisers. The viewership he brings to Fox is worth more to his bosses--and heavy hitters there, like Sean Hannity--than any ads. Then again, that's coming from a guy who turns the channel as soon as he hears Hannity's voice.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Then again, that’s coming from a guy who turns the channel as soon as he hears Hannity’s voice.

    I’m always reminded of Lawrence Auster’s characterization of Hannity: “He looks stupid. He sounds stupid. He is stupid.”

    Hannity is such an obvious tool: a meathead, a brainless propagandist. He’s like an Irish-American Julius Streicher.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Mr. Anon

    Hannity did first-rate work on the Michael Flynn story. Stupid yes. Stupid-sounding yes. And boy did he cuck and boomerize on the Chauvin situation ({"}My Krock Maga instructor tells me the neck will EXPLODE if you kneel on it{"}). But also on that Flynn story, objectively superior to almost every other journalist in US media. NPR still describes Flynn as "a man who repeatedly pled guilty" like that's the entire story.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  35. @Thulean Friend
    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes. So good news, but with some caveats.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb, @Magic Dirt Resident, @For what it's worth, @KenH

    Hannity is an idiot, although a somewhat/sometimes useful idiot!

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Dan Hayes

    Hannity has some good guests on his show, though he always insists on doing most of the talking. As they put it at Conservative Treehouse, "Hannity had General Flynn's defense attorney Sidney Powell on his show so she could listen to him talk about the latest breakthroughs in the case."

    Also, his guests have learned that Sean likes a lot of praise, so you hear of lot of stuff like, "Sean, there's no doubt that you were years ahead of everyone on this issue and you've been right about everything." He never seems to get enough of that.

  36. @Moral Stone
    @Thulean Friend

    While I agree with you, I’d much rather it be Hannity than someone on CNN or MSNBC.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Are their ratings still in the toilet?

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @Kronos

    No, everyone is doing better. CNN increased their ratings in the prime (25-54) demographic by over 120%.

  37. @Thulean Friend
    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes. So good news, but with some caveats.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb, @Magic Dirt Resident, @For what it's worth, @KenH

    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes.

    Perhaps he’s like Bill O’Reilly was to The Silents. O’Reilly always spoke slowly and deliberately like he was telling his senile uncle in the nursing home that it was time to take his pills.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Mr. Anon

    O'Reilly manages to get away (more or less) with his slow talk. Andy Cuomo completely fails with this affectation!

  38. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    Have you thought about the massive level of Democrat protest votes against Biden?

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Kronos


    Have you thought about the massive level of Democrat protest votes against Biden?
     
    From whom? No, to be honest, I haven't.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  39. The assumption seems to be that what’s missing in the current debate is an articulate, popular advocate for whatever it is I believe.

    As a firm believer in what I believe in I wholeheartedly I agree.

    • LOL: Fluesterwitz
  40. @Kronos
    @Moral Stone

    Are their ratings still in the toilet?

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

    No, everyone is doing better. CNN increased their ratings in the prime (25-54) demographic by over 120%.

  41. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    There were 8 BLM racial murders of cops in about 10 days in July 2016.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    You’re way too logical, Steve. There are, of course, lots and lots of explicitly racial murders, even torture-murders, by blacks of whites. But to break through CrimeStop, it’s got to happen now at the same time as the BLM news, so the things are emotionally associated in the brain.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    That happened spectacularly in July 2016 when a BLM terrorist murdered 5 Dallas cops at a BLM March for Philando Castile. That helped get Trump elected, and then you didn't much appear about BLM anymore. But that event and quite a few similar ones have been memory holed, so BLM is back.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Chrisnonymous

    You’re way too logical, Steve. There are, of course, lots and lots of explicitly racial murders, even torture-murders, by blacks of whites. But to break through CrimeStop, it’s got to happen now at the same time as the BLM news, so the things are emotionally associated in the brain.

    We need a hot off the press, iconic injustice to rouse the masses, like Emmett Till for example.

  42. Tucker Carlson is the one television journalist who actually tries to be a journalist on television.

  43. @Mr. Anon
    @Boethiuss


    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they’re not doing? They’re not voting for Donald Trump.
     
    Nonsense. They'll vote for Trump, if they have to. But not with much (if any) enthusiasm.

    You are right that Trump is a useless blowhard. You are wrong that there is any meaningful alternative.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    You are right that Trump is a useless blowhard. You are wrong that there is any meaningful alternative.

    Could be but I don’t think so. Especially in light of the sort of scenarios that people are talking about, including here, the idea that Trump doesn’t make it Election Day seems increasingly less outlandish every day.

    Among other things, how committed is Trump to playing out his hand and losing to Biden by say, 11 points? Not very much I don’t believe. Trump is good when the chips are down, but things are different when there’s no hope. If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he’d be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden’s lead against Trump: there’s no moves available to shake things up.

    Supposedly over the last week or so, Trump has been talking with his people about giving Biden a different nickname. “Sleepy Joe” just isn’t getting the job done. Maybe if he were “Dopey Joe” instead, everything would be completely different. Right. At some point even Trump gets the idea of futility.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Boethiuss


    If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he’d be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden’s lead against Trump: there’s no moves available to shake things up.
     
    The way 2020 has gone so far, there's a very good chance of further crises that could allow Trump to finally act Presidential, if the notion of doing so ever comes to him. If it doesn't though, he's probably toast.

    And frankly, based on past performance, he's unlikely to meaningfully take advantage of any opportunities that do come. He spent his first three years in office goofing off and frittering away the opportunities to build the credibility and authority he'd need in a crisis. Once the crises did come, he tried to duck responsibility where any halfway-competent political leader would've siezed the moment. I hate to say it, but the phrase "character is destiny" so beloved by the cucks has some validity.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @HammerJack

    , @G. Wilkers
    @Boethiuss

    I think "Joey Nuzzles" would be devastating.

    , @c matt
    @Boethiuss

    What he needs is "Where's Joe"?

    Biden's best strategy is to not show up, be silent, hide. The more Trump can draw him out, the better chance Joe screws up.

  44. @Kronos
    @Boethiuss

    Have you thought about the massive level of Democrat protest votes against Biden?

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    Have you thought about the massive level of Democrat protest votes against Biden?

    From whom? No, to be honest, I haven’t.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss


    From whom? No, to be honest, I haven’t.
     
    Crazy Bernie Supporters. I'm subscribed to some of their Facebook support pages, and they are collectively livid over having the nomination "stolen from them... again."

    Perhaps refer to them as formerly the "feel the bern," to now the "let it bern" crowd. Many have pledged to either not vote, or rage vote for Trump.

    Again, Durham is planning to unload in September. Whether his many months of preparation, including a grand jury already locked and loaded, turns out to be a nuclear, or cluster bomb, it is highly likely it will have an deleterious effect that will sink Biden.

    Biden's significant lack of energy and focus, compared to just a few months ago, indicates he knows he’s a political "dead man walking." He knows he’s just marking time.

    Trump doesn’t have to "rally when the chips are down." It’s his election to win. All he has to do is let up the process play out. Too many analysts are thinking of Trump strategy in terms of chess. Try thinking in strategic terms of "Monopoly," and you might get a better handle on Trump's strategy.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Boethiuss

  45. @Chrisnonymous
    @Wilkey

    Tucker preps his segments. There are interviews with him in which, speaking spontaneously, he acts goofy and sarcastic or becomes shrill. Not good looks for pols.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Richard B, @Anonymous

    Someone with far worse optics than that is currently President

  46. @ATBOTL
    A lot of online boomer aged conservative commenters don't like Tucker. They don't like that he cares about policy and criticizes Trump for selling out. They want him to just be a mindless GOP cheerleader like Hannity.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @znon

    We have one or two right here in this thread!

  47. @Mr. Anon
    @JimDandy


    Then again, that’s coming from a guy who turns the channel as soon as he hears Hannity’s voice.
     
    I'm always reminded of Lawrence Auster's characterization of Hannity: "He looks stupid. He sounds stupid. He is stupid."

    Hannity is such an obvious tool: a meathead, a brainless propagandist. He's like an Irish-American Julius Streicher.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Hannity did first-rate work on the Michael Flynn story. Stupid yes. Stupid-sounding yes. And boy did he cuck and boomerize on the Chauvin situation ({“}My Krock Maga instructor tells me the neck will EXPLODE if you kneel on it{“}). But also on that Flynn story, objectively superior to almost every other journalist in US media. NPR still describes Flynn as “a man who repeatedly pled guilty” like that’s the entire story.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross


    Hannity did first-rate work on the Michael Flynn story.
     
    That may all be true. And certainly, the whole Russia-Collusion / Ukraine / Impeachment fracas was a ridiculous and diversion, cooked up by the Democrats to undermine Trump and paralyze his administration. It was outrageous and evil.

    But, it doesn't matter. The only people who care about it are conservatives / Republicans who are all going to vote and all going to vote for the Republican candidate anyway. Independents mostly don't pay attention to all that inside-baseball stuff - it's just background noise to them. And they are the ones who ultimately determine the outcome of the election. Washington scandals are never the issue that propels Republicans into the Whitehouse.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @ATBOTL

  48. @Mr. Anon
    @Thulean Friend


    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes.
     
    Perhaps he's like Bill O'Reilly was to The Silents. O'Reilly always spoke slowly and deliberately like he was telling his senile uncle in the nursing home that it was time to take his pills.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    O’Reilly manages to get away (more or less) with his slow talk. Andy Cuomo completely fails with this affectation!

  49. @TelfoedJohn
    Carlson/Sailer 2024

    Replies: @Gordo, @DrWatson, @uman

    Carlson/Sailer 2024

    Should be the other way round but politics doesn’t work like that.

    Go for it.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Gordo

    Tucker's got better hair. And teeth. And tan. And Botox.

  50. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve will be on Tucker in less than a year.
    (I thought it would happen sooner… but reality is crazier than I thought, I guess…)

  51. @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    You're way too logical, Steve. There are, of course, lots and lots of explicitly racial murders, even torture-murders, by blacks of whites. But to break through CrimeStop, it's got to happen now at the same time as the BLM news, so the things are emotionally associated in the brain.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    That happened spectacularly in July 2016 when a BLM terrorist murdered 5 Dallas cops at a BLM March for Philando Castile. That helped get Trump elected, and then you didn’t much appear about BLM anymore. But that event and quite a few similar ones have been memory holed, so BLM is back.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Worth remembering is that the Dallas gunman actually shot 14 police officers, and wounded a couple of civs too. Another 'activist' shot and killed more in Baton Rouge several days later.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  52. Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020.

    You mean when you were praising Nixon for enforcing integration and pushing “civic nationalism”?

    That’s all part of the problem.

  53. @Chrisnonymous
    @Wilkey

    Tucker preps his segments. There are interviews with him in which, speaking spontaneously, he acts goofy and sarcastic or becomes shrill. Not good looks for pols.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Richard B, @Anonymous

    he acts goofy and sarcastic or becomes shrill.

    There’s the written word and there’s public speaking.

    Not everyone’s good at both.

    Regarding Tucker, it depends on the guest, or possibly other things as well.

    Sometimes’s he on and sometimes not.

    But in either case he comes off as more human, more down to earth and authentic than just about anything I’ve ever seen on TV.

    The bottom line: the highest ratings in cable news history.

  54. vhrm says:

    Carlson next called on Republicans to “defend our freedom of speech.”

    “We are not a free society without that,” Carlson said. “This is not simply a debate about the First Amendment and its limits. It’s bigger than that and more important. If you can’t articulate something, if you’re not allowed, you can’t think. And that’s precisely why authoritarians try to control language. They’re trying to control your mind.

    The censorship and cancellation is the part that i still can’t get my head around. It was the Left pushing for Hustler and making fun of Tipper Gore for her lyrics advisory stickers and such.

    And 1984 is still on many highschool reading lists. And China stands as an ongoing living example of politically motivated censorship on a massive scale

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast? It’s like if Dems suddenly came out against abortion or something. (which, btw they might once eugenics gets going again…)

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @vhrm

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast?

    because


    _____LEFTISM
    ______--DIES--
    ____WITHOUT
    ---CENSORSHIP---
     

    Replies: @Goddard

    , @Mr. Anon
    @vhrm


    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast?
     
    It's simple. They were never for free speech. They promoted free speech only when it was necessary to get their speech a hearing. They promoted pornography and other forms of degeneracy to undermine society. After they came to have a monopoly over the media, they dispensed with the notion of free speech, which they never believed in anyway. They're still for promoting the degeneracy though.

    Replies: @Pierre de Craon

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @vhrm

    When I was young, liberals supported free speech because they were confident they could win any political argument on the facts. They've come to realize that their arguments are no longer persuasive, so speech repression works better for them.

    There are other reasons, too of course. When they're not in power, leftists are in favor of all sorts of freedoms they can use to destabilize authority; once they're in power, it's in their interest to restrict those freedoms.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Testing12

    , @Unladen Swallow
    @vhrm

    They believed in free speech when they didn't control any institutions and later when there were still some they didn't control yet, now they have it all, so no free speech for you!

    I also think around the 1990's, they began see they were losing more and more arguments: The Soviet bloc and the Soviet Union collapsed, Giuliani reduced crime in the Big Apple rather dramatically after 30 years of increasing crime and population flight, much lower crime also lead to NYC's resurgence economically, The Bell Curve came out and to anyone without far left biases crushed the intellectual competition ( It actually got a very positive review in the NYTBR ). Clinton and Blair moved their left parties to the right, this could not stand.

    I also think there was a changing of the guard in the media around 1989-90, the old time liberals who believed everyone deserved a hearing started retiring and were replaced by ideologues who weren't going to give wrong thinkers any platform and also believed that there should be no distinction between reporting and editorializing. The broadcast media in particular were really shaken when the Democrats lost their third straight election in 1988, something had to be done.

  55. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    If you mean her specifically, she was the only child of a single Jewish school-teacher mom, age 68, who died last year of cancer in her sophomore year. No mention of a dad, at all. That’s a pretty rough start, and the Harvard degree will be her only asset, I daresay, for some time, as she tries to get a toehold in the elites.

    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @PiltdownMan


    If you mean her specifically, she was the only child of a single Jewish school-teacher mom, age 68, who died last year of cancer in her sophomore year. No mention of a dad, at all. That’s a pretty rough start, and the Harvard degree will be her only asset, I daresay, for some time, as she tries to get a toehold in the elites.
     
    Sympathy fail, no empathy for enemies.
    , @Twinkie
    @PiltdownMan


    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.
     
    I disagree. The future elites will be an alliance of Jews and South Asians. East Asians will continue to be upper middle class, but they will likely not dominate the elite strata of the society. They don't have the Chutzpah.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    , @fish
    @PiltdownMan

    She's attractive......she'll be planning a wedding with her new Jewish mother in law in no time!

    , @International Jew
    @PiltdownMan

    She looks 100% Asian to me. So probably adopted. Not many 48-year-old women giving birth either.

  56. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    From her last name and light (hazel?) eyes, I suspect she’s part white. I wonder if the same dynamic Jason Whitlock described about black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Dave Pinsen


    black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.
     
    That remains to be seen, but, as of now, black-white mixes tend to identify as black while Hapas tend to identify as white. Of course, that doesn't stop them from going "full white" and self-flagellating like a lot of elite, liberal whites.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous Jew

    , @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    @Dave Pinsen

    "King" James,i.e.LeBron,should maybe be classified as an honorary mulatto. His black life was chaotic and violent. But wasn't he raised at some point in a white family? His bitter hatred of us is the upshot. (Note that his nickname is a cultural appropriation. )

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Dave Pinsen

    I just realized I know who this girl is. Her mother was a lefty Jewish teacher in Manhattan, who adopted her from China. The girl is part French, I think. I gave the mother and her infant daughter a ride once (they were neighbors of a relative, before they moved to Connecticut), and remember thinking in 20 years therapists’ offices will be full of Chinese girls raised by Jewish single mothers.

  57. @Reg Cæsar
    @Boethiuss


    MAGA-friendly
     
    I just saw a bumper reading "Make America Native Again".

    I kind of like "Make America America Again". Pairs well with riot footage.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Cato

    ‘I just saw a bumper reading “Make America Native Again”.’

    I’m tempted to go with ‘Make America White Again.’

    We’re coming to that, that’s for sure.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Colin Wright

    Make sure the car is a beater.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright

    Correction: it was "Keep America Native". There were also Sioux (or whatever) talisman stickers on the car.

  58. @Dave Pinsen
    We're luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve? Your friend Scott McConnell golfs at one of his clubs and mentioned chatting with Trump in the locker room once - maybe you need to relocate to DC for a bit and golf with him more.

    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you've both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1278188926025506816?s=20

    Replies: @Anon, @Boethiuss, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Alden

    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.

    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?

    If Trump were somehow capable of changing gears, and if he were in regular communication with the right people who could tell him what and how to change, who’d listen?

    Normie America has an inclination to tune out Trump, and imo during the virus crisis that inclination has been hardened beyond any meaningful possibility of being reversed . We are at Dunkirk now and it’s time to quit worrying about what Trump does or what happens to him, and start trying to save whatever might be salvageable so we have the maximum resources available to fight in a post-Trump world.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Boethiuss


    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?
     
    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That's a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1275129838022598656?s=21


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1277339435257024516?s=21

    Replies: @wren, @Whiskey, @botazefa, @Corvinus, @Boethiuss, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    , @Daniel Williams
    @Boethiuss


    Normie America has an inclination to tune out Trump
     
    “Normie” America has been fascinated—borderline obsessed!—with Donald Trump for thirty or forty years. We’ve made him a TV star, a pundit, a celebrity, and President of the United States. It’s hard to imagine a person who has been less tuned out.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  59. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Record high ratings but no corporate advertising. Reminds me of a candidate or two, who had nothing and no one on their side except voters. Goliaths usually win, though, don't they.

    Replies: @indocon, @gregor

    Record high ratings but no corporate advertising…. We are getting close to solving one of Steve’s really interesting riddles, does advertisement really work? The day of reckoning for an industry that has grown to almost half a trillion $s is near.

  60. @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous


    She represents the future of elites in America.
     
    If you mean her specifically, she was the only child of a single Jewish school-teacher mom, age 68, who died last year of cancer in her sophomore year. No mention of a dad, at all. That's a pretty rough start, and the Harvard degree will be her only asset, I daresay, for some time, as she tries to get a toehold in the elites.

    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Twinkie, @fish, @International Jew

    If you mean her specifically, she was the only child of a single Jewish school-teacher mom, age 68, who died last year of cancer in her sophomore year. No mention of a dad, at all. That’s a pretty rough start, and the Harvard degree will be her only asset, I daresay, for some time, as she tries to get a toehold in the elites.

    Sympathy fail, no empathy for enemies.

    • Agree: 3g4me, EmailAsID
  61. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    The concept of elites only works if the masses accept them as their overlords, I just don’t see the various sub group of whites accepting this braud as their overload, like they accepted the WASP corporate executive in 60’s and 70’s and Jewish wall street fat cats since 80’s.

    • Replies: @wren
    @indocon

    I would guess that the NYT editorial board will make a spot for her. She will fit right in and decide the mainstream narrative that you and your family will live under.

    , @RichardTaylor
    @indocon


    The concept of elites only works if the masses accept them as their overlords
     
    I think that's right and what we have now is a group who couldn't wade out into a crowd of people and come off as a winner. It reminds me of those who get special protection by the warden in prison; if the warden ever cuts them off, they are in great danger.

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool

  62. @anonymous
    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn't give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @Dan Hayes, @Craig Nelsen, @J.Ross, @RichardTaylor

    Show me. Where Tucker. Pretended golf was fun. Show me, please. I can wait all night. Show me Tucker caring about golf architecture, you so-and-so.

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
  63. @vhrm

    Carlson next called on Republicans to “defend our freedom of speech.”

    “We are not a free society without that,” Carlson said. “This is not simply a debate about the First Amendment and its limits. It’s bigger than that and more important. If you can’t articulate something, if you’re not allowed, you can’t think. And that’s precisely why authoritarians try to control language. They’re trying to control your mind.
     

    The censorship and cancellation is the part that i still can't get my head around. It was the Left pushing for Hustler and making fun of Tipper Gore for her lyrics advisory stickers and such.

    And 1984 is still on many highschool reading lists. And China stands as an ongoing living example of politically motivated censorship on a massive scale

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast? It's like if Dems suddenly came out against abortion or something. (which, btw they might once eugenics gets going again...)

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Unladen Swallow

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast?

    because

    _____LEFTISM
    ______–DIES–
    ____WITHOUT
    —CENSORSHIP—

    • Agree: Negrolphin Pool, fish
    • Replies: @Goddard
    @J.Ross

    Exactly. The Left lost the argument. They then morphed into a semi-religious cult, complete with taboos, talismans, and smelly little orthodoxies.

  64. @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous


    She represents the future of elites in America.
     
    If you mean her specifically, she was the only child of a single Jewish school-teacher mom, age 68, who died last year of cancer in her sophomore year. No mention of a dad, at all. That's a pretty rough start, and the Harvard degree will be her only asset, I daresay, for some time, as she tries to get a toehold in the elites.

    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Twinkie, @fish, @International Jew

    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.

    I disagree. The future elites will be an alliance of Jews and South Asians. East Asians will continue to be upper middle class, but they will likely not dominate the elite strata of the society. They don’t have the Chutzpah.

    • Agree: JMcG, Kyle, Anonymous Jew
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Twinkie

    I once had an East Asian guy who reported to me bitterly complain that a South Asian colleague was getting ahead in the career game because he "had the gift of the gab." I don't disagree with you, but I do think Jewish Americans will still dominate South Asians, as South Asians appear to have no special talent for the highly prestigious fine or performing arts, at least in America. It's when an identifiable ethnic group controls the board of the Museum of Modern Art, or the studios in Hollywood, or white tie gala charity dinners, that they finally achieve dominance.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Alarmist

  65. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    From her last name and light (hazel?) eyes, I suspect she's part white. I wonder if the same dynamic Jason Whitlock described about black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.

    https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1275886856534515713?s=20

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Dave Pinsen

    black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.

    That remains to be seen, but, as of now, black-white mixes tend to identify as black while Hapas tend to identify as white. Of course, that doesn’t stop them from going “full white” and self-flagellating like a lot of elite, liberal whites.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Twinkie

    Mulattos and hapas (halfies) are viewed totally differently and treated differently by the larger white culture. The former a kind of black and the latter a kind of white.

    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/cdn.panda-gossips.com/production/posts/eyecatches/000/001/583/original.jpg
    Joanna Gaines (half-white/half-Korean)

    Why are hapas rarely unattractive?

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/b6/1d/7eb61d8df42841c22a23e1b0c260dfd2.jpg
    Barry Soetoro (half- black/half-white/raised by Asian father)

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Twinkie

    , @Anonymous Jew
    @Twinkie

    Most Hapas (or Wasians as I prefer) go “full White”. Then again, I live in Seattle so really no improvement or detriment compared to regular Whites. Most are good looking too, but of course not universally so. Because of the self-selecting nature of White-Asian pairings it seems like most are also smarter than average, but you’d need data to confirm.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  66. @anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Don't be so gracious when Tucker lacks graciousness. It makes me think that he is some low class hustler who won't have staying power with this new turn.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @For what it's worth

    This is what it looks like when someone is (clumsily) trying to sow dissent in the ranks.

    • Agree: 22pp22
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Cloudbuster

    It's crummy low end behavior on the part of Tucker to make the entire successful part of his career out of someone else's ideas and let that person languish in obscurity. How is that not outrageously ungrateful?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross

  67. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    I have a scoop for isteve that Tucker Carlson missed!

    The Question Everyone asks:

    Why were there so many fat chicks demonstrating day after day at CHAZ?

    Answer:

    Free Ben & Jerry’s, all you can eat.

    They’re fat because it’s true!

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    OneEightSix, nothing draws people to an event like "Free Food." Take that from a guy who represented a pasta company at "Race for the Cure" events all over the USA.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Up2Drew

  68. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    It is getting increasingly easy to spot the blackpillers and demoralizers.

    • Agree: Lurker, res
    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    @Cloudbuster

    Boethiuss has been pushing the "it's never too early to give up" theme for a long time.

  69. @Boethiuss
    @Dave Pinsen


    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.
     
    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What's the point?

    If Trump were somehow capable of changing gears, and if he were in regular communication with the right people who could tell him what and how to change, who'd listen?

    Normie America has an inclination to tune out Trump, and imo during the virus crisis that inclination has been hardened beyond any meaningful possibility of being reversed . We are at Dunkirk now and it's time to quit worrying about what Trump does or what happens to him, and start trying to save whatever might be salvageable so we have the maximum resources available to fight in a post-Trump world.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Daniel Williams

    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?

    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That’s a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    • Replies: @wren
    @Dave Pinsen

    1,500 buildings destroyed and damaged in Minneapolis/St.Paul alone.

    https://m.startribune.com/minneapolis-st-paul-buildings-are-damaged-looted-after-george-floyd-protests-riots/569930671/

    The left has shown us the future under their leadership, and I am sure people know this.

    The political ads write themselves.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

    , @Whiskey
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump is toast. Every White woman will be voting Biden like they support BLM. Huge black turnout. White men got the message. The entire system has an allergic reaction to Trump and White men do Orange Man Bad has to go or they burn you down.

    All that stuff in Seattle and Minneapolis polls great which is why it's spreading everywhere.

    It's 1933 and we are Jews. Flee, or hide. Now would be a good time to change your name to Lopez, get some skin darkener, and learn Spanish.

    Tuckers ratings are meaningless. Real power is held by the military, Black people, and Oli garchs. All hate us and Trump.

    We can't win. We can survive.

    Replies: @anon

    , @botazefa
    @Dave Pinsen


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.
     
    How do you reckon Trump is gonna do that? No police chiefs report to him.

    This is a huge problem in the US. People don't understand how our government works. The Presidency is weak, intentionally so, particularly domestically.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    , @Corvinus
    @Dave Pinsen

    "We’re luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve?"

    LOL. All this time, Mr. Sailer could have used his backchannels to get six degrees of Kevin Bacon closer to Trump's inner circle and convince The Donald of his master pattern recognition skills. And you of all people should know by now that Trump is all about his brand and his way of doing things, which is why his advisors have been a revolving door. You really think Mr. Sailer wants to be part of the circus with that clown?

    "One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump."

    Since when? Mr. Sailer generally steers clear of directly confronting Trump's foibles and malfeasance. He throws a bone here and there, but deep down he knows that Trump is a train wreck, but he is not about to alienate those who pay his bills.

    "To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016)."

    Did you drop a barbell on your noggin'? We know what is Trump by now. He will have to curb every instinct in his body to win back those he pissed off with his lack of direction, his use of Jewish advisors, and his knack for putting his interests first above the nation.

    "Another would be locking up rioters en masse."

    I thought that is a local responsibility. Besides, if he was serious about taking that stance, he would have done it by now.

    "It’s 4 months to the election. That’s a long time by 2020 standards."

    Now that is true. I do not necessarily believe the polls that say Biden is way ahead. And we do know that Trump is counting on outside interference to help him in his re-election bid. But make no mistake about it, Trump is in definitive trouble to get re-elected.

    "One was this move toward immigration restrictionism."

    It's all about the economy. Trump said to judge him on that, and the people will come November.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    , @Boethiuss
    @Dave Pinsen


    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.
     
    Well yeah, that's just the point. There's lots of things going on which the American people don't approve of, and ought to increase support for the Republican Party and its politicians. And for that matter, there's a lot of good commentary floating around from lots of people associated with this or that place on the right. But that plainly ain't happening, the part about the helping the Republicans.

    Normie white America desperately wants to not be associated with Trump, and that colors everything they do in our public political culture, and a lot of our private culture as well. For that matter, the rest of America doesn't want anything to do with America either, but it's normie white America which is salient for a lot of i-Stevers.

    Specifically, if the GOP wants to improve its approval or likely voting intentions among white people, the first thing that has to happen is to get rid of Trump.


    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.
     
    There's yuuuuge upside in dumping Trump (or quitting, dying, whatever). We create an avenue for normie white America to disapprove of arson or riots, or NYT hair harpies and the rest of it, without being associated with Donald Trump, either in their own mind or anywhere else.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @MEH 0910
    @Dave Pinsen


    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.
     
    Bird's steal 1987 ECF Game 5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYKdI_Xm9es

    From NBA Entertainment - NBA Dynasty Series: Boston Celtics The Complete History
     
    , @MEH 0910
    @Dave Pinsen

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1279257429482536961

  70. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    We're luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve? Your friend Scott McConnell golfs at one of his clubs and mentioned chatting with Trump in the locker room once - maybe you need to relocate to DC for a bit and golf with him more.

    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you've both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1278188926025506816?s=20

    Replies: @Anon, @Boethiuss, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Alden

    Maybe Steve IS in front of Trump and those who advise him….
    The “Sailer Strategy” WORKED in 2016…
    Trump got the electoral votes from states with working class whites that HRC ignored and who had previously voted D.
    The MSM does not discuss this since ANY analysis of such topics is FORBIDDEN. Sailer himself is forbidden. No one even condemns him since it is best not to draw awareness to him. Others get “cancelled” but Sailer just gets ignored, lest anyone realize that he is quite astute, as are many of his readers.
    But why should we suppose that the Sailer Strategy per se will work again? Is there any reason to suppose that Obama-Obama-Trump voters will go back to the D party? (For better or worse, I’m one of them… it’s complicated…) (I won’t…EVER.) Perhaps it makes more sense to pick up 10+% of the black vote by showing the D party to be a bunch of ABSOLUTE LOSERS. The black male vote for Trump in 2016 was less than I expected, but I realize now that they got overly swayed by the media. Subsequent events have broken that hold in many.

  71. @Twinkie
    @PiltdownMan


    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.
     
    I disagree. The future elites will be an alliance of Jews and South Asians. East Asians will continue to be upper middle class, but they will likely not dominate the elite strata of the society. They don't have the Chutzpah.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    I once had an East Asian guy who reported to me bitterly complain that a South Asian colleague was getting ahead in the career game because he “had the gift of the gab.” I don’t disagree with you, but I do think Jewish Americans will still dominate South Asians, as South Asians appear to have no special talent for the highly prestigious fine or performing arts, at least in America. It’s when an identifiable ethnic group controls the board of the Museum of Modern Art, or the studios in Hollywood, or white tie gala charity dinners, that they finally achieve dominance.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @PiltdownMan


    South Asians appear to have no special talent for the highly prestigious fine or performing arts, at least in America. It’s when an identifiable ethnic group controls the board of the Museum of Modern Art, or the studios in Hollywood, or white tie gala charity dinners, that they finally achieve dominance.
     
    That's a very quaint idea.

    They will dominate the tech industry and control what we see, read, and buy.

    Replies: @vhrm

    , @The Alarmist
    @PiltdownMan

    You haven't watched much Bollywood then; some of it is riveting.

  72. Of course Tucker needs ads. Fox isn’t sponsoring him for fun. The real question is why the Wokistocracy can dictate terms to the entire nation. What are they, 30% of the population? I’ll tell you why they can do it: because they are doing the dirty work for the Ruling Class.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @HammerJack


    Of course Tucker needs ads. Fox isn’t sponsoring him for fun. The real question is why the Wokistocracy can dictate terms to the entire nation. What are they, 30% of the population? I’ll tell you why they can do it: because they are doing the dirty work for the Ruling Class.
     
    I do my part. I’ve purchased 4 MyPillows, WeatherTech stuff, and a NordicTrack/iFit exercise bike. I’ve been very happy with all these purchases.

    The NordicTrack bike is awesome. It’s a simulator and gives you a great workout w/o the drudgery. I can ride along with trainers through the streets of San Francisco, Ho Chi Minh City, Boulder, Barcelona, et al., or scenic trail rides in Colorado, Utah, Norway, Japan, Chile, et al. As you watch a video of the ride on the HD screen in front of you the bike’s incline/resistance automatically adjusts going up and down hills. The whole time your trainer— who rides in front of you— is gently coaching you (“try to keep your RPMs at this level”, etc.).

    *Before the quarantine I used to run wooded paths/trails (~6 miles/day). I feel as if I can get almost the same level of workout in one hour on the bike if I pick a higher difficultly ride.

  73. @Dave Pinsen
    @Boethiuss


    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?
     
    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That's a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1275129838022598656?s=21


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1277339435257024516?s=21

    Replies: @wren, @Whiskey, @botazefa, @Corvinus, @Boethiuss, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    1,500 buildings destroyed and damaged in Minneapolis/St.Paul alone.

    https://m.startribune.com/minneapolis-st-paul-buildings-are-damaged-looted-after-george-floyd-protests-riots/569930671/

    The left has shown us the future under their leadership, and I am sure people know this.

    The political ads write themselves.

    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
    @wren

    My fear is that these ads won't make a decisive difference because too many whites are pathetic and have become Blm adherents.

  74. @indocon
    @Anonymous

    The concept of elites only works if the masses accept them as their overlords, I just don't see the various sub group of whites accepting this braud as their overload, like they accepted the WASP corporate executive in 60's and 70's and Jewish wall street fat cats since 80's.

    Replies: @wren, @RichardTaylor

    I would guess that the NYT editorial board will make a spot for her. She will fit right in and decide the mainstream narrative that you and your family will live under.

  75. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    That happened spectacularly in July 2016 when a BLM terrorist murdered 5 Dallas cops at a BLM March for Philando Castile. That helped get Trump elected, and then you didn't much appear about BLM anymore. But that event and quite a few similar ones have been memory holed, so BLM is back.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Worth remembering is that the Dallas gunman actually shot 14 police officers, and wounded a couple of civs too. Another ‘activist’ shot and killed more in Baton Rouge several days later.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    And two other blacks shot a bunch of whites pretty much at random in the middle of July 2016, but I don't think any of them managed to kill anybody.

    The Dallas shooter had had military training, so he was more effective than most BLM terrorists.

  76. @PiltdownMan
    @Twinkie

    I once had an East Asian guy who reported to me bitterly complain that a South Asian colleague was getting ahead in the career game because he "had the gift of the gab." I don't disagree with you, but I do think Jewish Americans will still dominate South Asians, as South Asians appear to have no special talent for the highly prestigious fine or performing arts, at least in America. It's when an identifiable ethnic group controls the board of the Museum of Modern Art, or the studios in Hollywood, or white tie gala charity dinners, that they finally achieve dominance.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Alarmist

    South Asians appear to have no special talent for the highly prestigious fine or performing arts, at least in America. It’s when an identifiable ethnic group controls the board of the Museum of Modern Art, or the studios in Hollywood, or white tie gala charity dinners, that they finally achieve dominance.

    That’s a very quaint idea.

    They will dominate the tech industry and control what we see, read, and buy.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Twinkie


    They will dominate the tech industry and control what we see, read, and buy.
     
    Mayve, but doesn't seem too likely yet. Yes there are a few heavy hitters like Pichai and some VCs, and some guys are really good, but, anecdotaly, the _average_ quality is pretty low. Below Asians, eastern Europeans or native whites.

    Corporate America tried to give the tech industry to India on a silver platter 20+ years ago. Basically the same as they did with giving manufacturing to China...
    Tech is MUCH easier to move and even so India is still an also ran in tech whereas China ran away with manufacturing. And the Indians didn't have the language barrier either. (or a considerably lower one)

    I think that's suggestive.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @anon

  77. @indocon
    @Anonymous

    The concept of elites only works if the masses accept them as their overlords, I just don't see the various sub group of whites accepting this braud as their overload, like they accepted the WASP corporate executive in 60's and 70's and Jewish wall street fat cats since 80's.

    Replies: @wren, @RichardTaylor

    The concept of elites only works if the masses accept them as their overlords

    I think that’s right and what we have now is a group who couldn’t wade out into a crowd of people and come off as a winner. It reminds me of those who get special protection by the warden in prison; if the warden ever cuts them off, they are in great danger.

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
    @RichardTaylor

    Coincidentally, they call that bunch "PC".

    In prison slang, PC means a bitch who don't deserve to breathe.

  78. That’s a very quaint idea.

    I’d give you a LOL, but you might take that to mean that I laugh at you, not with you, as I do.

    Indeed.

  79. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Worth remembering is that the Dallas gunman actually shot 14 police officers, and wounded a couple of civs too. Another 'activist' shot and killed more in Baton Rouge several days later.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    And two other blacks shot a bunch of whites pretty much at random in the middle of July 2016, but I don’t think any of them managed to kill anybody.

    The Dallas shooter had had military training, so he was more effective than most BLM terrorists.

  80. @Colin Wright
    @Reg Cæsar

    'I just saw a bumper reading “Make America Native Again”.'

    I'm tempted to go with 'Make America White Again.'

    We're coming to that, that's for sure.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Reg Cæsar

    Make sure the car is a beater.

    • LOL: donut
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @tyrone

    'Make sure the car is a beater.'

    No problem there. I've never paid more than $5500 for a car in my life.

  81. Maybe he might even pick up a mainstream national advertiser or two?

    The joke is on advertisers who pulled their ads from Tucker, many of whom paid rates based on Tucker’s ratings but found their ads now ensconced at “safer” times on segments with far lower ratings.

  82. @PiltdownMan
    @Twinkie

    I once had an East Asian guy who reported to me bitterly complain that a South Asian colleague was getting ahead in the career game because he "had the gift of the gab." I don't disagree with you, but I do think Jewish Americans will still dominate South Asians, as South Asians appear to have no special talent for the highly prestigious fine or performing arts, at least in America. It's when an identifiable ethnic group controls the board of the Museum of Modern Art, or the studios in Hollywood, or white tie gala charity dinners, that they finally achieve dominance.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @The Alarmist

    You haven’t watched much Bollywood then; some of it is riveting.

  83. Every American has precisely the same rights as every other American.

    So Carlson is now pro Black Lives Matter? That is exactly their argument – that blacks are not being treated the same way as other Americans. They get longer sentences for the exact same crimes whites commit, they get pulled over for traffic violations when whites don’t, don’t have access to decent health care (remember, that is a “right”, according to the left), etc. etc. The Derbyshires of the world would argue that it is insane for police officers to treat black men the way they respond to Asian women.

    I suppose Carlson will develop this, but a greater focus on responsibilities rather than “rights” is perhaps what we need at this moment in history.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I would have assumed that this is an implicit call to defend the civil rights of whites, not blacks. Tucker has highlighted several times recently, in the style of Steve, where the media have used the term 'white' and 'black' in articles as a way to signal to their audience who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Most recently he did this with the mansion owners who were clearly the bad guys for being white and 'waiving' guns around at a mostly peaceful black mob.

    The fact that Tucker does not highlight which race he is seeking to defend gives him some cover from charges of racism--'you only want equality for whites because you are a white nationalist' and so on. Given the state of affairs we are in, I don't think you could hope for any more than this at the moment.

  84. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    Politically speaking, we’re at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry.

    You do realise that Dunkirk was about losing and running away, right? It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans and then running for the exits when the war quickly went against them.

    So, to where do you propose we run?

    Maybe you should have chosen to call this a Bastogne moment, a moment where the American military really showed its mettle in the middle of a series of screwups that almost cost them the war in the west.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @The Alarmist

    It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans

    Most low IQ post I've seen today.

    , @Boethiuss
    @The Alarmist


    You do realise that Dunkirk was about losing and running away, right? It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans and then running for the exits when the war quickly went against them.
     
    That's right. Dunkirk was an evacuation, and you don't win wars by evacuating. Still it was absolutely necessary, and a substantial victory of sorts, at the time.

    A successful evacuation now seems less likely but would a momentous godsend if by some miracle we could pull it off. But even if we do, we're in for a tough road ahead, and that's the best case. If things go pear-shaped, some of the foundations of our society could collapse and a lot of us could die or experience severe privation.

    But let's say that doesn't happen. We're going to need all the resources we can muster to defeat the Left, its deconstructionist ideology and the organizational power associated with it. As things stand, a lot of our resources are tied up with Trump and his bullshit. Even with all our resources it's going to be a slog, but for sure nothing good is going to happen until we're free of Trump.

    So, to where do you propose we run?
     

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  85. Anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    @Wilkey

    Tucker preps his segments. There are interviews with him in which, speaking spontaneously, he acts goofy and sarcastic or becomes shrill. Not good looks for pols.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Richard B, @Anonymous

    I know one of his writers.

    Hes a shy Ivy League debate geek intellectual from the rural Midwest.

    He couldnt be a tv host or run for office. There are tradeoffs.

  86. @dreydl smasher
    quite a revealing statement that millions read you yet no one acts. can only be saying something about the nature of your writing or the culture of your fans

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Polynikes, @Anonymous

    What’s your alternative?

    That readers should go around mowing down people we all dislike, shouting: “Steve made me do it!”.

    SS is doing his job just fine. There is a time for everything, saith the Preacher….

    • Agree: Ian Smith
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Bardon Kaldian


    SS is doing his job just fine. There is a time for everything, saith the Preacher….
     
    Well the HBD crowd did get into activism when pushing the destructive Covid lockdown.

    That derailed the economy, created tens of millions of unemployed people, who were then available for BLM protests. And now, Trump will probably lose. So it may have been the turning point to a real cultural revolution in this country.

    How about if that energy had been put to saving our people, you know, White people? The problem is, most HBD'ers couldn't care less about White people in general.
    , @Alfa158
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Dreydl smasher appears to be doing what they call “Fed-posting”.
    He is a government or NGO provocateur who periodically comes on here and hints without saying it explicitly that we should be randomly machine gunning Blacks and Jews in the street. Fed-posters can have a number of objectives. It can be used to try and identify people who agree with the sentiments then get them fired, investigated and harassed. It has been used to de-platform bloggers and web-sites. Fed-posters will flood the comments section with vicious dreck, then complain to the service provider about the hate speech on the site and get it removed.
    The extreme cases involve the Feds using agents and informers to solicit criminal acts. If you are in a political dissident movement and one of your newer members pipes up and says “hey fellas, enough of this useless talk, we need some action, I know where I can get us an M60 and a kilo of Semtex”, then you’ve got a Feeb in your ranks.

    Replies: @vhrm

  87. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/01/jamie-redknapp-ditched-black-lives-matter-badge-concerns-grow/

    BLM is going down as I predicted, I will give you one guess which group BLM UK criticized being the reason for this.

  88. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    Her grandfather could have been one of those Japanese soldiers who bayoneted American GI’s who fell out of line on the Bataan Death March.

  89. Why doesn’t Trump tap Tucker as VP? Offer Pence something which is a better fit for his personality.

    Seems like an easy way to shake things up in a failing campaign. Plus, he’s young, so he can campaign during upcoming COVID season.

    Maybe I’m missing something?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Anon

    'Why doesn’t Trump tap Tucker as VP? Offer Pence something which is a better fit for his personality.

    Seems like an easy way to shake things up in a failing campaign. Plus, he’s young, so he can campaign during upcoming COVID season.

    Maybe I’m missing something?'

    I'm pretty sure you are missing something. Pence is a Christian Zionist. The Israel Lobby lets Trump have his second term; they at last get their war with Iran in 2025.

    Heads we lose, tails they win.

  90. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    You're way too logical, Steve. There are, of course, lots and lots of explicitly racial murders, even torture-murders, by blacks of whites. But to break through CrimeStop, it's got to happen now at the same time as the BLM news, so the things are emotionally associated in the brain.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    You’re way too logical, Steve. There are, of course, lots and lots of explicitly racial murders, even torture-murders, by blacks of whites. But to break through CrimeStop, it’s got to happen now at the same time as the BLM news, so the things are emotionally associated in the brain.

    We need a hot off the press, iconic injustice to rouse the masses, like Emmett Till for example.

  91. @Bardon Kaldian
    @dreydl smasher

    What's your alternative?

    That readers should go around mowing down people we all dislike, shouting: "Steve made me do it!".

    SS is doing his job just fine. There is a time for everything, saith the Preacher....

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Alfa158

    SS is doing his job just fine. There is a time for everything, saith the Preacher….

    Well the HBD crowd did get into activism when pushing the destructive Covid lockdown.

    That derailed the economy, created tens of millions of unemployed people, who were then available for BLM protests. And now, Trump will probably lose. So it may have been the turning point to a real cultural revolution in this country.

    How about if that energy had been put to saving our people, you know, White people? The problem is, most HBD’ers couldn’t care less about White people in general.

  92. anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cloudbuster
    @anonymous

    This is what it looks like when someone is (clumsily) trying to sow dissent in the ranks.

    Replies: @anonymous

    It’s crummy low end behavior on the part of Tucker to make the entire successful part of his career out of someone else’s ideas and let that person languish in obscurity. How is that not outrageously ungrateful?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    It's way too important for the fate of the nation too indulge in petty squabbles over credit.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Gordo

    , @J.Ross
    @anonymous

    This sounds a bit like the Concerned individuals who showed up at /pol/ after the big win in 2016 and insisted that Trump wasn't really "one of us" unless he publicly denounced Jews.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  93. Anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie
    @Dave Pinsen


    black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.
     
    That remains to be seen, but, as of now, black-white mixes tend to identify as black while Hapas tend to identify as white. Of course, that doesn't stop them from going "full white" and self-flagellating like a lot of elite, liberal whites.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous Jew

    Mulattos and hapas (halfies) are viewed totally differently and treated differently by the larger white culture. The former a kind of black and the latter a kind of white.


    Joanna Gaines (half-white/half-Korean)

    Why are hapas rarely unattractive?


    Barry Soetoro (half- black/half-white/raised by Asian father)

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @Anon

    raised by Asian father)

    Mostly raised by White grandparents.

    , @Twinkie
    @Anon


    Mulattos and hapas (halfies) are viewed totally differently and treated differently by the larger white culture.
     
    It’s the hair. It’s always the hair (nod to Sailer). ;)

    Replies: @Jack D

  94. @J.Ross
    @vhrm

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast?

    because


    _____LEFTISM
    ______--DIES--
    ____WITHOUT
    ---CENSORSHIP---
     

    Replies: @Goddard

    Exactly. The Left lost the argument. They then morphed into a semi-religious cult, complete with taboos, talismans, and smelly little orthodoxies.

  95. @anonymous
    @Cloudbuster

    It's crummy low end behavior on the part of Tucker to make the entire successful part of his career out of someone else's ideas and let that person languish in obscurity. How is that not outrageously ungrateful?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross

    It’s way too important for the fate of the nation too indulge in petty squabbles over credit.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Steve Sailer

    A Navy captain once told me, "You can get a lot done if you don't mind who gets the credit".

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Gordo
    @Steve Sailer


    It’s way too important for the fate of the nation too indulge in petty squabbles over credit.
     
    Well and decently said Steve, but its not just your nation, passports are irrelevant now.

    Our Race Is Our Nation.

    Replies: @znon

  96. @RichardTaylor
    @indocon


    The concept of elites only works if the masses accept them as their overlords
     
    I think that's right and what we have now is a group who couldn't wade out into a crowd of people and come off as a winner. It reminds me of those who get special protection by the warden in prison; if the warden ever cuts them off, they are in great danger.

    Replies: @Negrolphin Pool

    Coincidentally, they call that bunch “PC”.

    In prison slang, PC means a bitch who don’t deserve to breathe.

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
  97. @anonymous
    Are you unhappy that Tucker essentially cloned your entire set of political and cultural beliefs and found so much success but doesn't give a word of acknowledgement or credit to you?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dave Pinsen, @Dan Hayes, @Craig Nelsen, @J.Ross, @RichardTaylor

    People have been craving something like Tucker for 30 years. If anything, he’s still stuck on the “race doesn’t matter” crap (but then again, he has to be, he’s on thin ice). So, in reality, Tucker is just a temporary host as most Whites will move on to something more racial in time.

  98. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    It's way too important for the fate of the nation too indulge in petty squabbles over credit.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Gordo

    A Navy captain once told me, “You can get a lot done if you don’t mind who gets the credit”.

    • Agree: Twinkie
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jim Don Bob


    A Navy captain once told me, “You can get a lot done if you don’t mind who gets the credit”.
     
    I guess in the context of the armed services, that is true, and a wise observation.

    In the private sector, particularly in news and entertainment, while its still true, its poisonous, since the person taking authorship of your work is not trying to take Omaha beach. They’re just trying to buy a bigger house. So laying down my interests in the name of a higher up making his mortgage payment for his/her bitchin' house, doesn’t resonate with me. In fact, it could... change my... world view... for the worse.

    Teamwork can, and often does have a dark side.

    Meet a television writer when he/she is first starting out. Then meet up with him/her fifteen years later. Too often, you'll be taken aback by what that person has turned into.

    Unless you’re attracted to "bitter and shitty."
  99. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    It's way too important for the fate of the nation too indulge in petty squabbles over credit.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Gordo

    It’s way too important for the fate of the nation too indulge in petty squabbles over credit.

    Well and decently said Steve, but its not just your nation, passports are irrelevant now.

    Our Race Is Our Nation.

    • Replies: @znon
    @Gordo

    It should be kept in mind after the last few months that the coalition of the core can't afford to conduct purges amongst its ranks before significant victories. Read: Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell to imagine reaping the results of that.

    for the illiterate, See 1:11/3:32 and 2:05 / 3:32

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Yc2vtAmwM

  100. O/T Yet another Karen bites the dust:

    Adidas HR head accused of mishandling racism, quits

    Karen Parkin, global HR head, Adidas, ended her over two-decade association with the German sportswear company, following complaints by Black employees that the Company’s culture lacks diversity and supports racism.

    In 2019, at a meeting in Boston, Parkin had called the concern about racism-related issues ‘noise’, which had attracted widespread criticism.

    Fifty-five year old Parkin, a citizen of the US as well as the UK, was the first woman to be appointed to Adidas’ Executive Board in over 20 years.

    https://www.hrkatha.com/news/adidas-hr-head-accused-of-mishandling-racism-quits/

    This at a time whe European companies are trying to increase female numbers in the boardroom.

    Proof that black trumps woman.

    • Replies: @Cowboy Shaw
    @The Alarmist

    That seems to be quite an important story. HR chiefs are probably going to dial up the madness even further seeing that. I imagine that's got them alarmed, and their response will be, as it has been for years now, the wrong one.

  101. @Peter Akuleyev
    Every American has precisely the same rights as every other American.

    So Carlson is now pro Black Lives Matter? That is exactly their argument - that blacks are not being treated the same way as other Americans. They get longer sentences for the exact same crimes whites commit, they get pulled over for traffic violations when whites don't, don't have access to decent health care (remember, that is a "right", according to the left), etc. etc. The Derbyshires of the world would argue that it is insane for police officers to treat black men the way they respond to Asian women.

    I suppose Carlson will develop this, but a greater focus on responsibilities rather than "rights" is perhaps what we need at this moment in history.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    I would have assumed that this is an implicit call to defend the civil rights of whites, not blacks. Tucker has highlighted several times recently, in the style of Steve, where the media have used the term ‘white’ and ‘black’ in articles as a way to signal to their audience who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Most recently he did this with the mansion owners who were clearly the bad guys for being white and ‘waiving’ guns around at a mostly peaceful black mob.

    The fact that Tucker does not highlight which race he is seeking to defend gives him some cover from charges of racism–‘you only want equality for whites because you are a white nationalist’ and so on. Given the state of affairs we are in, I don’t think you could hope for any more than this at the moment.

  102. “Nor, by the way, is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. Everything depends on it. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems. Try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. If certain categories of thought are off limits to you, it doesn’t work. The power grid collapses. Planes crash. Society degrades. No speech means no science, no art, no civilization.

    This sounds great but it’s false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    Maybe he's just overstating his case. The Soviets had to concentrate what engineering skills its engineers had on a few areas, mostly, although not entirely, military. The Nazis didn't produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Anonymous

    , @eric
    @Jack D

    Prior to 1989 East Germany was held up as the best case for socialist economic efficiency. After reunification, all of the East German heavy manufacturing plants were razed, not just retooled. To the extent some products had good quality and could be showcased in the West, they were produced inefficiently and didn't concern themselves with environmental costs.

    This is the magic of the market system, in that a product needs to not merely be of high quality, but generate a profit, to succeed. Profits imply the benefits (revenues) are greater than the costs. Add further that high profile exporters had no environmental restrictions, which is why the ecological devastation in socialist countries is simply unfathomable to effete Westerners. , after reunification and replaced under the guidance and capital of West German companies.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jack D

    The Soviets and the Nazis were both Europeans before they became fanatics. (Well, a few of the Soviets were Europeans, anyway.) So they already knew what science and technology and Art and philosophy were, before they drove over the cliff.

    Our new would-be Kangz of Color enjoy no such advantage. Actually I don't really think free speech would improve their quality of thought, since they come from a people who can't even create a two-story building. But the loss of it will be hard on the rest of us, who will have to try and keep the lights on somehow.

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    This sounds great but it’s false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

     

    You’re a mess. Equating the mindset of Nazi’s with Communists is absurd.

    The retarding effect of communism in the sciences, despite national IQ averages being equivalent to the United States, proves the original point that lack of free thought arrests scientific progress.

    Rejecting Capitalism had a resounding negative effect on Soviet scientific progress.

    Finding the Jews to be "a bit much" would have little effect on the V1 rocket program, as well as the myriad of dynamic Nazi scientific achievements by which America, and the Soviets, has benefitted tremendously.
    , @Henry's Cat
    @Jack D

    'Thinking freely' is clearly a euphemism for white supremacy.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Jack D

    The "Chernobyl" mini-series is a good case study of what happens when you fear punishment for telling the truth. (I was going to write "what happens in a totalitarian society," but it applies in the US as well, which is not yet totalitarian.)

  103. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack
    Of course Tucker needs ads. Fox isn't sponsoring him for fun. The real question is why the Wokistocracy can dictate terms to the entire nation. What are they, 30% of the population? I'll tell you why they can do it: because they are doing the dirty work for the Ruling Class.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Of course Tucker needs ads. Fox isn’t sponsoring him for fun. The real question is why the Wokistocracy can dictate terms to the entire nation. What are they, 30% of the population? I’ll tell you why they can do it: because they are doing the dirty work for the Ruling Class.

    I do my part. I’ve purchased 4 MyPillows, WeatherTech stuff, and a NordicTrack/iFit exercise bike. I’ve been very happy with all these purchases.

    The NordicTrack bike is awesome. It’s a simulator and gives you a great workout w/o the drudgery. I can ride along with trainers through the streets of San Francisco, Ho Chi Minh City, Boulder, Barcelona, et al., or scenic trail rides in Colorado, Utah, Norway, Japan, Chile, et al. As you watch a video of the ride on the HD screen in front of you the bike’s incline/resistance automatically adjusts going up and down hills. The whole time your trainer— who rides in front of you— is gently coaching you (“try to keep your RPMs at this level”, etc.).

    *Before the quarantine I used to run wooded paths/trails (~6 miles/day). I feel as if I can get almost the same level of workout in one hour on the bike if I pick a higher difficultly ride.

  104. @Jack D

    “Nor, by the way, is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. Everything depends on it. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems. Try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. If certain categories of thought are off limits to you, it doesn’t work. The power grid collapses. Planes crash. Society degrades. No speech means no science, no art, no civilization.
     
    This sounds great but it's false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @eric, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Harry Baldwin

    Maybe he’s just overstating his case. The Soviets had to concentrate what engineering skills its engineers had on a few areas, mostly, although not entirely, military. The Nazis didn’t produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Hibernian


    The Nazis didn’t produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.
     
    Its a bit of an edgy topic, did Heisenberg deliberately downplay the possibility of success, ask for a ludicrously low budget then leak the project to Bohr? Leaving Diebner without encouragement and advice?

    If so does that cast a little shadow on those who willingly built a bomb for America, they certainly never forgave him but was it for trying to build a bomb for Adolph or for not trying?

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/211247.Heisenberg_s_War

    , @Anonymous
    @Hibernian


    Maybe he’s just overstating his case. The Soviets had to concentrate what engineering skills its engineers had on a few areas, mostly, although not entirely, military. The Nazis didn’t produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.
     
    Uhh... perhaps managing a war on three fronts, and enduring daily carpet bombings, while effectively utilizing the resources of a country the size of Idaho, might tend to overweight your Daytimer.

    Question: Does leaving out major significant facts from your analysis to support a silly conclusion make you a liar, or just stupid?

    Replies: @Hibernian

  105. @TelfoedJohn
    Carlson/Sailer 2024

    Replies: @Gordo, @DrWatson, @uman

    It would be an interesting thought experiment how this would play out in 2020 should Trump abandon running this year. Would the powers that be shut him (Tucker) up instantly? Would they find a grip on Tucker/Sailer? Maybe they are more useful in their current positions as voices of sanity.

    It is doubtful 2024 finds America still in one piece. There is hardly any common ground among its citizens. What would it be? Democracy is (almost) dead. No manufacturing jobs. Economic hardship. The banking sector & pharmaceuticals exclusively in the hands of the Deep State. Universities also. Health care is pofit oriented.

    What are the possible solutions?
    1. Americans must found their own (even if smaller in the beginning) banks.
    2. Manufacturing must be restarted. As the dollar will be inevitably depreciated, this is going to be an increasingly attractive possibility.
    3. Israel’s role in American politics has to be re-evaluated and obviously downsized.
    4. The two-party system has to be broken. US congressmen and senators have to be held accountable and serve their own constituency, instead of a foreign power.
    5. Blacks and Whites have to be reconciled, making them realise that they are not enemies of each other.
    6. Universities and other elite institutions (those run on taxpayers’ money) have to restore meritocracy. The best and worthiest must have the most prominent positions, not the most connected.
    7. Blacks have to be made to realise that it is not ‘White supremacy’ that holds them back. In fact, they are much better off than in most countries.
    8. The whole notion of ‘White supremacy’ must be retired. Everybody is a White supremacist at the bottom of their heart, including Blacks and Jews because they know Whites can innovate and build functioning societies like no other race. Therefore ‘White supremacism’ is a meaningless term, something like ‘Earth roundism’ because it is as self-evident as that.

    • Replies: @For what it's worth
    @DrWatson

    "realise"

    Where are you writing from? Here in 'Murica, it's "realize."

    Replies: @DrWatson

    , @DrWatson
    @DrWatson

    How to start a bank:

    What are the costs involved in opening a bank?
    The costs are significant, since the banking industry is the most regulated industry in the country. Banks generally need between $12 to $20 million in starting capital. If you start a local community bank, you might be able to raise that money locally. Otherwise, you may have to solicit investors.

    Once the capital is raised, you must apply to regulatory agencies. Regulators are strict in their review of applications since the financial crisis. Once you're approved, you may open up your bank. https://howtostartanllc.com/business-ideas/bank#start

    How many non-chosenites do you need to pull resources together to found a real American bank?

  106. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    From her last name and light (hazel?) eyes, I suspect she's part white. I wonder if the same dynamic Jason Whitlock described about black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.

    https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1275886856534515713?s=20

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Dave Pinsen

    “King” James,i.e.LeBron,should maybe be classified as an honorary mulatto. His black life was chaotic and violent. But wasn’t he raised at some point in a white family? His bitter hatred of us is the upshot. (Note that his nickname is a cultural appropriation. )

  107. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    Record high ratings but no corporate advertising. Reminds me of a candidate or two, who had nothing and no one on their side except voters. Goliaths usually win, though, don't they.

    Replies: @indocon, @gregor

    Conservatives need to learn their lesson here. This is an example of why the muh free market/muh private company arguments are all bogus. They do not understand how power works. The left does. A related issue is that liberals enthusiastically use the government to push their stuff whereas conservatives don’t even try because government is bad or something.

  108. You, Mr. Sailer, and Carlson, should begin calling for a General Strike in favor of free speech and strict equality under the law.
    First as a shot-across-the-bow. A single day of calling in sick.
    Then as a plan to execute it for a week. This will take logistics – it will take people using tools like text (because social media will be a bad idea) to organize and taking hard data to be sure people who pledged to strike did in fact strike. If you don’t hit where it hurts no winning argument is going to win. Also – if three steps down the staircase is three steps towards bloodshed and hell, why jump the steps? Why not put every effort possible into civil steps that stand to reverse the decline?

  109. Tucker, good points but right wing politics actually need to go even more basic: Physical security

    Absolute right to self defense, period. Qualified immunity for normal citizens peacefully going about their lives who get harassed by mobs.

    People are watching this and they’re afraid (correctly) that if they defend themselves it’ll get even worse as they will then be arrested.

    Literally call it the “f—k around and find out” act. Black and Hispanic people will support this. Nobody, nobody, believes that you should be allowed to block traffic, attack people in their cars and then they can’t do anything about it. White libs are 100% cynical on this and the sooner you call that bluff the better

    Tucker maybe can “build a political movement” as some have suggested but ultimately politics is patronage, so having a good talker who “gets it” is useless if he doesn’t have an actual power base to deliver material results.

    • Replies: @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    @Not my Economy


    Qualified immunity for normal citizens peacefully going about their lives who get harassed by mobs
     
    Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
  110. Some of us are left-wingers hate reading while bored.

  111. @Boethiuss
    @Dave Pinsen


    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.
     
    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What's the point?

    If Trump were somehow capable of changing gears, and if he were in regular communication with the right people who could tell him what and how to change, who'd listen?

    Normie America has an inclination to tune out Trump, and imo during the virus crisis that inclination has been hardened beyond any meaningful possibility of being reversed . We are at Dunkirk now and it's time to quit worrying about what Trump does or what happens to him, and start trying to save whatever might be salvageable so we have the maximum resources available to fight in a post-Trump world.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Daniel Williams

    Normie America has an inclination to tune out Trump

    “Normie” America has been fascinated—borderline obsessed!—with Donald Trump for thirty or forty years. We’ve made him a TV star, a pundit, a celebrity, and President of the United States. It’s hard to imagine a person who has been less tuned out.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Daniel Williams


    “Normie” America has been fascinated—borderline obsessed!—with Donald Trump for thirty or forty years. We’ve made him a TV star, a pundit, a celebrity, and President of the United States. It’s hard to imagine a person who has been less tuned out.
     
    Yeah, but no.

    It's one thing to be entertained by Trump as the host of a business reality show. It's quite another to watch as the world economy implodes due to the virus crisis, and listen to Trump accuse Joe Scarborough of foul play in a woman's death, or complain about the media poking fun at him when he can't walk down a ramp after a speech.

    People are looking for answers, and Trump is spouting out derp.

    No 0ne's paying attention any more.
  112. eric says:
    @Jack D

    “Nor, by the way, is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. Everything depends on it. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems. Try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. If certain categories of thought are off limits to you, it doesn’t work. The power grid collapses. Planes crash. Society degrades. No speech means no science, no art, no civilization.
     
    This sounds great but it's false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @eric, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Harry Baldwin

    Prior to 1989 East Germany was held up as the best case for socialist economic efficiency. After reunification, all of the East German heavy manufacturing plants were razed, not just retooled. To the extent some products had good quality and could be showcased in the West, they were produced inefficiently and didn’t concern themselves with environmental costs.

    This is the magic of the market system, in that a product needs to not merely be of high quality, but generate a profit, to succeed. Profits imply the benefits (revenues) are greater than the costs. Add further that high profile exporters had no environmental restrictions, which is why the ecological devastation in socialist countries is simply unfathomable to effete Westerners. , after reunification and replaced under the guidance and capital of West German companies.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @eric

    Carlson didn't say that socialist or dictatorial systems are less efficient (which they are). He said that they were impossible - that you COULDN'T build a safe plane under those conditions. This is false. Soviet planes had a reasonably good safety record. Not perfect but neither is Boeing. On the one hand, the Socialist economy was slow to respond so you had a lot of outdated and inefficient products - turbojets after the West had switched to more fuel efficient and quieter fanjets, etc. OTOH, the lack of a market pricing mechanism meant that the Soviets could sometimes use high quality materials (titanium) that would have been cost prohibitive to use in the West.

    As for E. Germany, many of the E. German products were quite good, perhaps even better than their modern Western counterparts that had been cheapened while the E. German item was still made in the old fashioned solid way - metal gears instead of plastic, etc. However, the E. German product often appeared stodgy and out of date - the graphics on the package were poorly done and out of style. The logos looked like something from the 1950s. E. German brands did not have slick marketing with TV commercials and jingles. The management of these factories had no idea on how to sell a product in a market economy - in E. Germany you just had to make the stuff and you didn't have to worry about selling it . So these products had no chance in a market economy for reasons often having absolutely nothing to do with the inherent quality of the products themselves.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro, @Johnny789

  113. @Jack D

    “Nor, by the way, is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. Everything depends on it. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems. Try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. If certain categories of thought are off limits to you, it doesn’t work. The power grid collapses. Planes crash. Society degrades. No speech means no science, no art, no civilization.
     
    This sounds great but it's false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @eric, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Harry Baldwin

    The Soviets and the Nazis were both Europeans before they became fanatics. (Well, a few of the Soviets were Europeans, anyway.) So they already knew what science and technology and Art and philosophy were, before they drove over the cliff.

    Our new would-be Kangz of Color enjoy no such advantage. Actually I don’t really think free speech would improve their quality of thought, since they come from a people who can’t even create a two-story building. But the loss of it will be hard on the rest of us, who will have to try and keep the lights on somehow.

  114. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems.

    Tucker should give Ayn Rand credit for this piece of philosophy. It’s distinctively hers.

    • Agree: Muggles
  115. @Anon
    @Twinkie

    Mulattos and hapas (halfies) are viewed totally differently and treated differently by the larger white culture. The former a kind of black and the latter a kind of white.

    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/cdn.panda-gossips.com/production/posts/eyecatches/000/001/583/original.jpg
    Joanna Gaines (half-white/half-Korean)

    Why are hapas rarely unattractive?

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/b6/1d/7eb61d8df42841c22a23e1b0c260dfd2.jpg
    Barry Soetoro (half- black/half-white/raised by Asian father)

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Twinkie

    raised by Asian father)

    Mostly raised by White grandparents.

  116. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    But we’re not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Can you please point out the obvious? I’m stupid this morning.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @EmailAsID


    Can you please point out the obvious? I’m stupid this morning.
     
    Yeah, we're not in Dunkirk mode because most of us in the populist Right are still invested in Trump and his bullshit.

    "We need to get Steve and Tucker Carlson in front of Trump."

    "Joe Biden is old and stupid and will flop in the debates."

    "Trump should arrest antifa terrorists in Seattle"

    Etc. Any of these may or may not be true or good ideas on their own terms. None of them matter.
  117. @dreydl smasher
    quite a revealing statement that millions read you yet no one acts. can only be saying something about the nature of your writing or the culture of your fans

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Polynikes, @Anonymous

    What makes you think no one acts?

  118. @Bardon Kaldian
    @dreydl smasher

    What's your alternative?

    That readers should go around mowing down people we all dislike, shouting: "Steve made me do it!".

    SS is doing his job just fine. There is a time for everything, saith the Preacher....

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Alfa158

    Dreydl smasher appears to be doing what they call “Fed-posting”.
    He is a government or NGO provocateur who periodically comes on here and hints without saying it explicitly that we should be randomly machine gunning Blacks and Jews in the street. Fed-posters can have a number of objectives. It can be used to try and identify people who agree with the sentiments then get them fired, investigated and harassed. It has been used to de-platform bloggers and web-sites. Fed-posters will flood the comments section with vicious dreck, then complain to the service provider about the hate speech on the site and get it removed.
    The extreme cases involve the Feds using agents and informers to solicit criminal acts. If you are in a political dissident movement and one of your newer members pipes up and says “hey fellas, enough of this useless talk, we need some action, I know where I can get us an M60 and a kilo of Semtex”, then you’ve got a Feeb in your ranks.

    • Agree: vhrm
    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Alfa158

    it's 20 minutes after four....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_8TMa_do0

  119. @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    Maybe he's just overstating his case. The Soviets had to concentrate what engineering skills its engineers had on a few areas, mostly, although not entirely, military. The Nazis didn't produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Anonymous

    The Nazis didn’t produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.

    Its a bit of an edgy topic, did Heisenberg deliberately downplay the possibility of success, ask for a ludicrously low budget then leak the project to Bohr? Leaving Diebner without encouragement and advice?

    If so does that cast a little shadow on those who willingly built a bomb for America, they certainly never forgave him but was it for trying to build a bomb for Adolph or for not trying?

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/211247.Heisenberg_s_War

  120. @eric
    @Jack D

    Prior to 1989 East Germany was held up as the best case for socialist economic efficiency. After reunification, all of the East German heavy manufacturing plants were razed, not just retooled. To the extent some products had good quality and could be showcased in the West, they were produced inefficiently and didn't concern themselves with environmental costs.

    This is the magic of the market system, in that a product needs to not merely be of high quality, but generate a profit, to succeed. Profits imply the benefits (revenues) are greater than the costs. Add further that high profile exporters had no environmental restrictions, which is why the ecological devastation in socialist countries is simply unfathomable to effete Westerners. , after reunification and replaced under the guidance and capital of West German companies.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Carlson didn’t say that socialist or dictatorial systems are less efficient (which they are). He said that they were impossible – that you COULDN’T build a safe plane under those conditions. This is false. Soviet planes had a reasonably good safety record. Not perfect but neither is Boeing. On the one hand, the Socialist economy was slow to respond so you had a lot of outdated and inefficient products – turbojets after the West had switched to more fuel efficient and quieter fanjets, etc. OTOH, the lack of a market pricing mechanism meant that the Soviets could sometimes use high quality materials (titanium) that would have been cost prohibitive to use in the West.

    As for E. Germany, many of the E. German products were quite good, perhaps even better than their modern Western counterparts that had been cheapened while the E. German item was still made in the old fashioned solid way – metal gears instead of plastic, etc. However, the E. German product often appeared stodgy and out of date – the graphics on the package were poorly done and out of style. The logos looked like something from the 1950s. E. German brands did not have slick marketing with TV commercials and jingles. The management of these factories had no idea on how to sell a product in a market economy – in E. Germany you just had to make the stuff and you didn’t have to worry about selling it . So these products had no chance in a market economy for reasons often having absolutely nothing to do with the inherent quality of the products themselves.

    • Agree: GoRedWings!
    • Replies: @Steve in Greensboro
    @Jack D

    Q. How do you double the value of a Trabant?
    A. Fill up the tank!

    Q. How many workers does it take to build a Trabi?
    A. Three, one to cut, one to fold and one to paste.

    Q. How do you measure the acceleration of a Trabant?
    A. With a diary.

    Q. Why do some Trabants have heated rear windows?
    A. To keep your hands warm when pushing.

    Q. What's the difference between a Jehovah's Witness and a Trabant?
    A. You can shut the door on a Jehovah's Witness.

    Q. When does a Trabi reach its top speed?
    A. When it's being towed.

    , @Johnny789
    @Jack D

    How's your Trabant holding up?

  121. anonymous[395] • Disclaimer says:

    Ten years ago a non-white, Dinesh D’Souza, liberally took inspiration from Steve and never gave credit. Steve is prejudiced. He is agreeable if a white man rips off his ideas but not when it’s done by a non-white.

    D’Souza churns out books too frequently. (This is his 12th). And in his haste, he’s developed a bit of a reputation for sometimes…neglecting to give full credit to his sources.

    https://vdare.com/articles/dinesh-d-souza-the-right-enemies-but-the-wrong-thesis

  122. @Thulean Friend
    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes. So good news, but with some caveats.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb, @Magic Dirt Resident, @For what it's worth, @KenH

    “Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes”

    Hannity is the king of Dim-Bulb Bartenders Who Will Not Shut Their Pie-Holes.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  123. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    “Lots of people are reading Sailer”

    Steve is tip-of-the-spear, no doubt. But he’s read clandestinely. He’s forbidden fruit.

  124. No action without a reaction.

    Tucker expresses very clearly three items of crime-think.

    1) Absolute equal treatment under law. (If you believe there is such a thing as “systemic racism, there must be de jure discrimination in favor of blacks.)

    2) Free speech. (Thoughts expressed by iSteve and Tucker must not be allowed publicly, privately or even allowed to be thought.)

    3) There needs to be a political party that represents normal people. (This means that the left is mostly made up of the insane and maladapted which is certainly true, but the left would find this “hurtful”.)

    The idea that these ideas are allowed to be broadcast to the nation will drive the left crazy. There will be an intense negative reaction. If he is not taken off the air in the next couple of weeks, it will be a huge positive development.

    I don’t think we can rightly criticize him for not addressing those issues that would get him take off the air, e.g. race realism, the J-Q, etc.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  125. @The Alarmist
    O/T Yet another Karen bites the dust:

    Adidas HR head accused of mishandling racism, quits

    Karen Parkin, global HR head, Adidas, ended her over two-decade association with the German sportswear company, following complaints by Black employees that the Company’s culture lacks diversity and supports racism.

    In 2019, at a meeting in Boston, Parkin had called the concern about racism-related issues ‘noise’, which had attracted widespread criticism.

    ...

    Fifty-five year old Parkin, a citizen of the US as well as the UK, was the first woman to be appointed to Adidas’ Executive Board in over 20 years.

     

    https://www.hrkatha.com/news/adidas-hr-head-accused-of-mishandling-racism-quits/

    This at a time whe European companies are trying to increase female numbers in the boardroom.

    Proof that black trumps woman.

    Replies: @Cowboy Shaw

    That seems to be quite an important story. HR chiefs are probably going to dial up the madness even further seeing that. I imagine that’s got them alarmed, and their response will be, as it has been for years now, the wrong one.

  126. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    “She represents the future of elites in America”

    Hard to dispute, considering the abysmal nature of American elites. More depressingly, she’s emblematic of the distressing state of a lot of young non-[b]lack women. Young [b]lack women though are doing just fine; their self-esteem levels are off the charts.

  127. @Jack D
    @eric

    Carlson didn't say that socialist or dictatorial systems are less efficient (which they are). He said that they were impossible - that you COULDN'T build a safe plane under those conditions. This is false. Soviet planes had a reasonably good safety record. Not perfect but neither is Boeing. On the one hand, the Socialist economy was slow to respond so you had a lot of outdated and inefficient products - turbojets after the West had switched to more fuel efficient and quieter fanjets, etc. OTOH, the lack of a market pricing mechanism meant that the Soviets could sometimes use high quality materials (titanium) that would have been cost prohibitive to use in the West.

    As for E. Germany, many of the E. German products were quite good, perhaps even better than their modern Western counterparts that had been cheapened while the E. German item was still made in the old fashioned solid way - metal gears instead of plastic, etc. However, the E. German product often appeared stodgy and out of date - the graphics on the package were poorly done and out of style. The logos looked like something from the 1950s. E. German brands did not have slick marketing with TV commercials and jingles. The management of these factories had no idea on how to sell a product in a market economy - in E. Germany you just had to make the stuff and you didn't have to worry about selling it . So these products had no chance in a market economy for reasons often having absolutely nothing to do with the inherent quality of the products themselves.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro, @Johnny789

    Q. How do you double the value of a Trabant?
    A. Fill up the tank!

    Q. How many workers does it take to build a Trabi?
    A. Three, one to cut, one to fold and one to paste.

    Q. How do you measure the acceleration of a Trabant?
    A. With a diary.

    Q. Why do some Trabants have heated rear windows?
    A. To keep your hands warm when pushing.

    Q. What’s the difference between a Jehovah’s Witness and a Trabant?
    A. You can shut the door on a Jehovah’s Witness.

    Q. When does a Trabi reach its top speed?
    A. When it’s being towed.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  128. @Dave Pinsen
    @Boethiuss


    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?
     
    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That's a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1275129838022598656?s=21


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1277339435257024516?s=21

    Replies: @wren, @Whiskey, @botazefa, @Corvinus, @Boethiuss, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    Trump is toast. Every White woman will be voting Biden like they support BLM. Huge black turnout. White men got the message. The entire system has an allergic reaction to Trump and White men do Orange Man Bad has to go or they burn you down.

    All that stuff in Seattle and Minneapolis polls great which is why it’s spreading everywhere.

    It’s 1933 and we are Jews. Flee, or hide. Now would be a good time to change your name to Lopez, get some skin darkener, and learn Spanish.

    Tuckers ratings are meaningless. Real power is held by the military, Black people, and Oli garchs. All hate us and Trump.

    We can’t win. We can survive.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Whiskey

    Tiny Whiskey

    [Fear, doubt, fear, more fear...]

    Huh. Take the blackpilling out and there's nothing left.

    Why do you comment here? What's your real motivation, dude?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  129. @Anonymous
    I have a scoop for isteve that Tucker Carlson missed!

    The Question Everyone asks:

    Why were there so many fat chicks demonstrating day after day at CHAZ?

    Answer:

    Free Ben & Jerry's, all you can eat.

    They’re fat because it’s true!

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1278058666415906817?s=20

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    OneEightSix, nothing draws people to an event like “Free Food.” Take that from a guy who represented a pasta company at “Race for the Cure” events all over the USA.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Buffalo Joe

    Why do you think people love weddings so much? Free food and booze.

    , @Up2Drew
    @Buffalo Joe

    Agreed. There was a time, as a corporate IT manager, if I needed to gather an audience, I would let it be known that I would provide food at the meeting.

    Eventually, I gave up this strategy because the vegan, non-peanut, gluten-adverse crowd became more difficult than I cared to deal with. You useta be able to throw a couple of boxes of donuts on the boardroom table and the attendees would practically carry you out on their shoulders.

  130. @Dave Pinsen
    @anonymous

    I'm sure Tucker reads Sailer, but I think Tucker came to his views honestly. His honesty, and his respect for his audience, is part of why he's been so successful.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @e

    I’m sure Tucker reads Sailer, but I think Tucker came to his views honestly. His honesty, and his respect for his audience, is part of why he’s been so successful.

    Have Tucker’s views modified, or have events made his views what they have become?

    Post-Reagan Republicanism seemed somewhat tenable in, say, 2000. It’s just that with the passage of time and events it no longer seems to be an appropriate framework to represent the interests of legacy Americans in 2020.

    There was at least the lip service then that any losses from “free trade” would be more than compensated for when the blue collar American workers were retrained for state of the art technical jobs which paid better and were less dangerous than their manufacturing jobs. Perhaps some like PJB or Steve foresaw the folly – and that the interests of capital were so craven that they had only ever intended to reap the financial benefits of wage arbitrage – but there simply wasn’t the breadth of experience that we now have to conclude that this was an utter and absolute failure of policy. It was a front for people who buy labor to circumvent the American worker, no different than immigration.

  131. @Thulean Friend
    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes. So good news, but with some caveats.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb, @Magic Dirt Resident, @For what it's worth, @KenH

    I’m sure there’s tons of overlap; they are back to back on the same channel after all. Anecdotally, my boomer parents started watching Tucker every night the last few months.

  132. @Cloudbuster
    @Boethiuss

    It is getting increasingly easy to spot the blackpillers and demoralizers.

    Replies: @Ozymandias

    Boethiuss has been pushing the “it’s never too early to give up” theme for a long time.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin, Charon, Lurker
  133. @Dave Pinsen
    @anonymous

    I'm sure Tucker reads Sailer, but I think Tucker came to his views honestly. His honesty, and his respect for his audience, is part of why he's been so successful.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @e

    Tucker is intelligent and articulate and like Steve, he reads the social scientists whose work is rooted in diligent research. Heather MacDonald is a guest at times. I wish she’d get more air time.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @e

    Heather MacDonald is very good, but she has the worst hair stylist this side of Chicago's bLACK lesbo mayor.

  134. anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    I'm very happy that someone with Tucker's impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @anonymous, @anon, @Ragno, @Corvinus, @map

    OT: coming on the heels of the democrats denouncing Trump’s “white supremacy” rally at … Mount Rushmore (which the dems totally won’t demolish the second they get the chance), the Western Canon is about to be burned:

    “Were my colleagues and I right to think that the institution to which we had given much of our professional lives could be reformed? Was our particular culture as teachers of Western culture compromised to the core? If it was, must we then, well, defund the teaching of the canon?”

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/prufrock/a-muddled-argument-against-the-western-canon/

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @anon

    The last time there was conflict at Mt. Rushmore:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zr_zL_T3g8

  135. Like all the so-called truth-tellers he carefully steps around The Whom as to the destruction caused by democrats. Telling THAT truth gets you cancelled. Go ahead, Tuck, outline the annexation of the United States by Israel and their 500 lobbies that have bought everything in media and our political process.

    In three days, we’ll be asking, “what ever happened to Tucker?”.

    And so, what’s the difference, if you don’t dig into the next layer? So enough about how brave Tucker Carlson is. He is owned just like all the rest. He fools you into thinking you have a voice, a nonsensical notion.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Troll: Art
  136. @vhrm

    Carlson next called on Republicans to “defend our freedom of speech.”

    “We are not a free society without that,” Carlson said. “This is not simply a debate about the First Amendment and its limits. It’s bigger than that and more important. If you can’t articulate something, if you’re not allowed, you can’t think. And that’s precisely why authoritarians try to control language. They’re trying to control your mind.
     

    The censorship and cancellation is the part that i still can't get my head around. It was the Left pushing for Hustler and making fun of Tipper Gore for her lyrics advisory stickers and such.

    And 1984 is still on many highschool reading lists. And China stands as an ongoing living example of politically motivated censorship on a massive scale

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast? It's like if Dems suddenly came out against abortion or something. (which, btw they might once eugenics gets going again...)

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Unladen Swallow

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast?

    It’s simple. They were never for free speech. They promoted free speech only when it was necessary to get their speech a hearing. They promoted pornography and other forms of degeneracy to undermine society. After they came to have a monopoly over the media, they dispensed with the notion of free speech, which they never believed in anyway. They’re still for promoting the degeneracy though.

    • Replies: @Pierre de Craon
    @Mr. Anon

    Precisely. That this and similar obvious stuff has to be explained to people at this late date is cause for despair.

    As for Tucker Carlson, why don't folks see that the monologue everyone is applauding had enough winks and nods to the Establishment to win him the ADL's Most Righteous Goy award for 2020? No one, no one, no one who talks nowadays about "equality for all" is a friend or supporter of the historic American nation. It was this very sort of weasel-worded crap that sixty years ago helped turn Harvard, Yale, Berkeley, UCLA, and Wisconsin—even such outliers as Catholic University and Notre Dame—into merely more picturesque clones of Yeshiva University.

    Equality for all is a lie, and I have had a bellyful of lies. Even as my 75th birthday nears, I am ready to march for someone, but only someone, who calls for restoration of a legal system proudly and openly biased in favor of US citizens, particularly Christians. All other postures are the work of what those addicted to understatement call managed opposition. Those who prefer plain speech, however, use the term treachery.

  137. @J.Ross
    @Mr. Anon

    Hannity did first-rate work on the Michael Flynn story. Stupid yes. Stupid-sounding yes. And boy did he cuck and boomerize on the Chauvin situation ({"}My Krock Maga instructor tells me the neck will EXPLODE if you kneel on it{"}). But also on that Flynn story, objectively superior to almost every other journalist in US media. NPR still describes Flynn as "a man who repeatedly pled guilty" like that's the entire story.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Hannity did first-rate work on the Michael Flynn story.

    That may all be true. And certainly, the whole Russia-Collusion / Ukraine / Impeachment fracas was a ridiculous and diversion, cooked up by the Democrats to undermine Trump and paralyze his administration. It was outrageous and evil.

    But, it doesn’t matter. The only people who care about it are conservatives / Republicans who are all going to vote and all going to vote for the Republican candidate anyway. Independents mostly don’t pay attention to all that inside-baseball stuff – it’s just background noise to them. And they are the ones who ultimately determine the outcome of the election. Washington scandals are never the issue that propels Republicans into the Whitehouse.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    @Mr. Anon


    And certainly, the whole Russia-Collusion / Ukraine / Impeachment fracas was a ridiculous and diversion, cooked up by the Democrats
     
    It was Collusion / Obstruction / Ukraine / Pandemic.

    C/O/U/P for short.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @ATBOTL
    @Mr. Anon

    That's the kind of stuff that Tucker was criticizing in this segment. Types like Hannity like to focus on trivial details as a way of avoiding talking about the larger issues that are confronting conservatives. They can fill up a whole show or a whole month going into the minutiae of Peter Strzok's text messages so they don't have any time left to notice Trump selling out or white people being attacked in the street. Hannity has always been awful. He has always tried to steer his listeners away from nationalism and towards neocon neoliberalism. Never forget that Hannity did a complete sell out on amnesty for illegals after Romney lost and then did his best to soft sell the Gang The Eight Amnesty to his skeptical listeners.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  138. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    OneEightSix, nothing draws people to an event like "Free Food." Take that from a guy who represented a pasta company at "Race for the Cure" events all over the USA.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Up2Drew

    Why do you think people love weddings so much? Free food and booze.

  139. @Dan Hayes
    @Thulean Friend

    Hannity is an idiot, although a somewhat/sometimes useful idiot!

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Hannity has some good guests on his show, though he always insists on doing most of the talking. As they put it at Conservative Treehouse, “Hannity had General Flynn’s defense attorney Sidney Powell on his show so she could listen to him talk about the latest breakthroughs in the case.”

    Also, his guests have learned that Sean likes a lot of praise, so you hear of lot of stuff like, “Sean, there’s no doubt that you were years ahead of everyone on this issue and you’ve been right about everything.” He never seems to get enough of that.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes, Art
  140. @Boethiuss
    @Mr. Anon


    You are right that Trump is a useless blowhard. You are wrong that there is any meaningful alternative.
     
    Could be but I don't think so. Especially in light of the sort of scenarios that people are talking about, including here, the idea that Trump doesn't make it Election Day seems increasingly less outlandish every day.

    Among other things, how committed is Trump to playing out his hand and losing to Biden by say, 11 points? Not very much I don't believe. Trump is good when the chips are down, but things are different when there's no hope. If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he'd be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden's lead against Trump: there's no moves available to shake things up.

    Supposedly over the last week or so, Trump has been talking with his people about giving Biden a different nickname. "Sleepy Joe" just isn't getting the job done. Maybe if he were "Dopey Joe" instead, everything would be completely different. Right. At some point even Trump gets the idea of futility.

    Replies: @Thomas, @G. Wilkers, @c matt

    If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he’d be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden’s lead against Trump: there’s no moves available to shake things up.

    The way 2020 has gone so far, there’s a very good chance of further crises that could allow Trump to finally act Presidential, if the notion of doing so ever comes to him. If it doesn’t though, he’s probably toast.

    And frankly, based on past performance, he’s unlikely to meaningfully take advantage of any opportunities that do come. He spent his first three years in office goofing off and frittering away the opportunities to build the credibility and authority he’d need in a crisis. Once the crises did come, he tried to duck responsibility where any halfway-competent political leader would’ve siezed the moment. I hate to say it, but the phrase “character is destiny” so beloved by the cucks has some validity.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Thomas


    The way 2020 has gone so far, there’s a very good chance of further crises that could allow Trump to finally act Presidential, if the notion of doing so ever comes to him. If it doesn’t though, he’s probably toast.
     
    Yeah that's true, but it's still understating things. Because let's say that some kind of crisis arises, or our current crises crystallize in a new way, and in response Trump is Presidential, smart, purposeful, and decisive. What is that supposed to change? Probably not very much in my view.

    It's not so much that the American people disapprove of Trump (though they do), it's that they have definitely made up their mind on the subject and don't intend to reconsider the situation.
    , @HammerJack
    @Thomas

    Of course Trump's not a master politician. He's not a politician at all! He wouldn't even be president except that the Dems were stupid enough to run Hillary Clinton against him.

    They're slightly less stupid this time. True, Biden's a train wreck whom they have to keep under lock and key, but he's still better than Hillary and meanwhile Trump's doing just about everything he can to lose.

    Not over 'til it's over, though, and I expect we'll have a surprise or two before November.

  141. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    @Steve Sailer

    A Navy captain once told me, "You can get a lot done if you don't mind who gets the credit".

    Replies: @Anonymous

    A Navy captain once told me, “You can get a lot done if you don’t mind who gets the credit”.

    I guess in the context of the armed services, that is true, and a wise observation.

    In the private sector, particularly in news and entertainment, while its still true, its poisonous, since the person taking authorship of your work is not trying to take Omaha beach. They’re just trying to buy a bigger house. So laying down my interests in the name of a higher up making his mortgage payment for his/her bitchin’ house, doesn’t resonate with me. In fact, it could… change my… world view… for the worse.

    Teamwork can, and often does have a dark side.

    Meet a television writer when he/she is first starting out. Then meet up with him/her fifteen years later. Too often, you’ll be taken aback by what that person has turned into.

    Unless you’re attracted to “bitter and shitty.”

  142. @vhrm

    Carlson next called on Republicans to “defend our freedom of speech.”

    “We are not a free society without that,” Carlson said. “This is not simply a debate about the First Amendment and its limits. It’s bigger than that and more important. If you can’t articulate something, if you’re not allowed, you can’t think. And that’s precisely why authoritarians try to control language. They’re trying to control your mind.
     

    The censorship and cancellation is the part that i still can't get my head around. It was the Left pushing for Hustler and making fun of Tipper Gore for her lyrics advisory stickers and such.

    And 1984 is still on many highschool reading lists. And China stands as an ongoing living example of politically motivated censorship on a massive scale

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast? It's like if Dems suddenly came out against abortion or something. (which, btw they might once eugenics gets going again...)

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Unladen Swallow

    When I was young, liberals supported free speech because they were confident they could win any political argument on the facts. They’ve come to realize that their arguments are no longer persuasive, so speech repression works better for them.

    There are other reasons, too of course. When they’re not in power, leftists are in favor of all sorts of freedoms they can use to destabilize authority; once they’re in power, it’s in their interest to restrict those freedoms.

    • Agree: Jack D
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Harry Baldwin

    It's not free speech, and it never was free speech. It's always been MY speech.

    , @Testing12
    @Harry Baldwin

    The military industrial complex "conservatives" of the 90s and early 2000s had extremely weak arguments (democracy in the middle east will be amazing!) so it was easy for them to believe that. And the neocons in charge then were big advocates of censorship too (though not as successful) for the same reason.

  143. @Jack D
    @eric

    Carlson didn't say that socialist or dictatorial systems are less efficient (which they are). He said that they were impossible - that you COULDN'T build a safe plane under those conditions. This is false. Soviet planes had a reasonably good safety record. Not perfect but neither is Boeing. On the one hand, the Socialist economy was slow to respond so you had a lot of outdated and inefficient products - turbojets after the West had switched to more fuel efficient and quieter fanjets, etc. OTOH, the lack of a market pricing mechanism meant that the Soviets could sometimes use high quality materials (titanium) that would have been cost prohibitive to use in the West.

    As for E. Germany, many of the E. German products were quite good, perhaps even better than their modern Western counterparts that had been cheapened while the E. German item was still made in the old fashioned solid way - metal gears instead of plastic, etc. However, the E. German product often appeared stodgy and out of date - the graphics on the package were poorly done and out of style. The logos looked like something from the 1950s. E. German brands did not have slick marketing with TV commercials and jingles. The management of these factories had no idea on how to sell a product in a market economy - in E. Germany you just had to make the stuff and you didn't have to worry about selling it . So these products had no chance in a market economy for reasons often having absolutely nothing to do with the inherent quality of the products themselves.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro, @Johnny789

    How’s your Trabant holding up?

  144. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    “Nor, by the way, is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. Everything depends on it. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems. Try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. If certain categories of thought are off limits to you, it doesn’t work. The power grid collapses. Planes crash. Society degrades. No speech means no science, no art, no civilization.
     
    This sounds great but it's false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @eric, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Harry Baldwin

    This sounds great but it’s false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

    You’re a mess. Equating the mindset of Nazi’s with Communists is absurd.

    The retarding effect of communism in the sciences, despite national IQ averages being equivalent to the United States, proves the original point that lack of free thought arrests scientific progress.

    Rejecting Capitalism had a resounding negative effect on Soviet scientific progress.

    Finding the Jews to be “a bit much” would have little effect on the V1 rocket program, as well as the myriad of dynamic Nazi scientific achievements by which America, and the Soviets, has benefitted tremendously.

  145. @Twinkie
    @Dave Pinsen


    black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.
     
    That remains to be seen, but, as of now, black-white mixes tend to identify as black while Hapas tend to identify as white. Of course, that doesn't stop them from going "full white" and self-flagellating like a lot of elite, liberal whites.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous Jew

    Most Hapas (or Wasians as I prefer) go “full White”. Then again, I live in Seattle so really no improvement or detriment compared to regular Whites. Most are good looking too, but of course not universally so. Because of the self-selecting nature of White-Asian pairings it seems like most are also smarter than average, but you’d need data to confirm.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Anonymous Jew


    Because of the self-selecting nature of White-Asian pairings it seems like most are also smarter than average, but you’d need data to confirm.
     
    Judging from the income data, you are right, because AMWF couples have the highest median income and WMAFs are not too behind (AMWF, AMAF, and WMAF are the top three categories, I believe).
  146. @Gordo
    @TelfoedJohn


    Carlson/Sailer 2024
     
    Should be the other way round but politics doesn't work like that.

    Go for it.

    Replies: @Henry's Cat

    Tucker’s got better hair. And teeth. And tan. And Botox.

    • LOL: Gordo
  147. @Anon
    @Twinkie

    Mulattos and hapas (halfies) are viewed totally differently and treated differently by the larger white culture. The former a kind of black and the latter a kind of white.

    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/cdn.panda-gossips.com/production/posts/eyecatches/000/001/583/original.jpg
    Joanna Gaines (half-white/half-Korean)

    Why are hapas rarely unattractive?

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/b6/1d/7eb61d8df42841c22a23e1b0c260dfd2.jpg
    Barry Soetoro (half- black/half-white/raised by Asian father)

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Twinkie

    Mulattos and hapas (halfies) are viewed totally differently and treated differently by the larger white culture.

    It’s the hair. It’s always the hair (nod to Sailer). 😉

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    LOL, but it's not just the hair.

    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look white or almost white (e.g. Meg Tilly real name Margaret Chan, Phoebe Cates). Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can't quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking and when the stars all align, the sum is even greater than the parts and the result is a Eurasian beauty (BTW Tilly and Cates have both aged like milk but I suppose that is true of most women).


    Whereas people who are 50% black are almost always unmistakably black. You really need to get down to the 1/8 level before a mixed race black has a chance of "passing". And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Erik Blair, @Jpp, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @For what it's worth

  148. @Jack D

    “Nor, by the way, is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. Everything depends on it. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems. Try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. If certain categories of thought are off limits to you, it doesn’t work. The power grid collapses. Planes crash. Society degrades. No speech means no science, no art, no civilization.
     
    This sounds great but it's false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @eric, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Harry Baldwin

    ‘Thinking freely’ is clearly a euphemism for white supremacy.

  149. Tucker needs to come out against immigration, and advice Trump to highly restrict all immigration if he wants to get reelected. Otherwise, he’s toast in November.

  150. Bravo Tucker! Might have to hedge my bet that Fox is greasing the skids for his ouster by this time next year. Wonder what Breaking News Hannity is thinking? The cynic in me wonders whether Carlson refers to him as “the ‘great’ Sean Hannity” during his sign-off with just a wee bit of sarcasm.

    A Carlson/Sailer ticket in 2024! Wouldn’t that be FUUN?

  151. @Boethiuss
    @Mr. Anon


    You are right that Trump is a useless blowhard. You are wrong that there is any meaningful alternative.
     
    Could be but I don't think so. Especially in light of the sort of scenarios that people are talking about, including here, the idea that Trump doesn't make it Election Day seems increasingly less outlandish every day.

    Among other things, how committed is Trump to playing out his hand and losing to Biden by say, 11 points? Not very much I don't believe. Trump is good when the chips are down, but things are different when there's no hope. If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he'd be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden's lead against Trump: there's no moves available to shake things up.

    Supposedly over the last week or so, Trump has been talking with his people about giving Biden a different nickname. "Sleepy Joe" just isn't getting the job done. Maybe if he were "Dopey Joe" instead, everything would be completely different. Right. At some point even Trump gets the idea of futility.

    Replies: @Thomas, @G. Wilkers, @c matt

    I think “Joey Nuzzles” would be devastating.

  152. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    More proof, as if we need one, that intelligence and maturity are mutually exclusive. Would love for the shrinks to devise an SMT (Scholastic Maturity Test).

  153. @Twinkie
    @Anon


    Mulattos and hapas (halfies) are viewed totally differently and treated differently by the larger white culture.
     
    It’s the hair. It’s always the hair (nod to Sailer). ;)

    Replies: @Jack D

    LOL, but it’s not just the hair.

    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look white or almost white (e.g. Meg Tilly real name Margaret Chan, Phoebe Cates). Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can’t quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking and when the stars all align, the sum is even greater than the parts and the result is a Eurasian beauty (BTW Tilly and Cates have both aged like milk but I suppose that is true of most women).

    Whereas people who are 50% black are almost always unmistakably black. You really need to get down to the 1/8 level before a mixed race black has a chance of “passing”. And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look
     
    You are telling someone whose children are exactly that. Don’t try to sell ice to an Eskimo. ;)
    , @Erik Blair
    @Jack D


    ...Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can’t quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking ...

    And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.
     
    Yep. Think of Tia Carrare (Cassandra) in Wayne’s World, with her as the fantasy woman and it’s the most believable. Yet if a black or mixed race black woman played that role it would be 100% total cringe.

    Replies: @vhrm

    , @Jpp
    @Jack D

    Chanda Prescott Weinstein definitely comes to mind here.

    , @Sgt. Joe Friday
    @Jack D

    I think Phoebe Cates is 1/4 Filipino and 1/4 Russian Jew. That's exotic.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @For what it's worth
    @Jack D

    Alicia Keys and Halle Berry?

  154. The GOP stands for “not DEM” (nothing).

    Don’t vote. Your participation only raises the signature bar on recall petitions. By ~ (¼)dTot.

  155. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    Maybe he's just overstating his case. The Soviets had to concentrate what engineering skills its engineers had on a few areas, mostly, although not entirely, military. The Nazis didn't produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Anonymous

    Maybe he’s just overstating his case. The Soviets had to concentrate what engineering skills its engineers had on a few areas, mostly, although not entirely, military. The Nazis didn’t produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.

    Uhh… perhaps managing a war on three fronts, and enduring daily carpet bombings, while effectively utilizing the resources of a country the size of Idaho, might tend to overweight your Daytimer.

    Question: Does leaving out major significant facts from your analysis to support a silly conclusion make you a liar, or just stupid?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Anonymous

    It's useless trying to reason with a Friend of Adolf.

  156. @Jack D

    “Nor, by the way, is it a theoretical concern of interest only to intellectuals. Everything depends on it. If you can’t think freely, you can’t solve problems. Try to build a hydro plant or fly a commercial airplane. If certain categories of thought are off limits to you, it doesn’t work. The power grid collapses. Planes crash. Society degrades. No speech means no science, no art, no civilization.
     
    This sounds great but it's false. The Soviet Union had hydro plants. They had commercial planes. So did the Nazis. Some of them were actually pretty good.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @eric, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Henry's Cat, @Harry Baldwin

    The “Chernobyl” mini-series is a good case study of what happens when you fear punishment for telling the truth. (I was going to write “what happens in a totalitarian society,” but it applies in the US as well, which is not yet totalitarian.)

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
  157. Steve and Tucker for POTUS

  158. Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020.

    I could have lived with that …

    And that’s what makes you a good guy.

  159. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Boethiuss
    @Kronos


    Have you thought about the massive level of Democrat protest votes against Biden?
     
    From whom? No, to be honest, I haven't.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    From whom? No, to be honest, I haven’t.

    Crazy Bernie Supporters. I’m subscribed to some of their Facebook support pages, and they are collectively livid over having the nomination “stolen from them… again.”

    Perhaps refer to them as formerly the “feel the bern,” to now the “let it bern” crowd. Many have pledged to either not vote, or rage vote for Trump.

    Again, Durham is planning to unload in September. Whether his many months of preparation, including a grand jury already locked and loaded, turns out to be a nuclear, or cluster bomb, it is highly likely it will have an deleterious effect that will sink Biden.

    Biden’s significant lack of energy and focus, compared to just a few months ago, indicates he knows he’s a political “dead man walking.” He knows he’s just marking time.

    Trump doesn’t have to “rally when the chips are down.” It’s his election to win. All he has to do is let up the process play out. Too many analysts are thinking of Trump strategy in terms of chess. Try thinking in strategic terms of “Monopoly,” and you might get a better handle on Trump’s strategy.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Kyle
    @Anonymous

    I was at the dem convention in philly in 2016. I held up a giant sign that said let them eat cake, alluding to the dem establishment railroading Bernie for Hillary. I don’t think many people got it. There was a woman who took the stage in FDR park while the convention was going on across the street. Her speech was rambling but the conclusion was she would rather vote for trump than Hillary, and that got massive cheers from the assembled crowd. This was a crowd of liberals, the people who were shut of of the convention by the massive police barricades. Trump will win in a landslide, again. He doesn’t need to be sitting on his hands right now. He could roll the marines into downtown CHAZ and execute all the anarchist by firing squad and he’d win in an even bigger landslide.

    , @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    Crazy Bernie Supporters. I’m subscribed to some of their Facebook support pages, and they are collectively livid over having the nomination “stolen from them… again.”

    Perhaps refer to them as formerly the “feel the bern,” to now the “let it bern” crowd. Many have pledged to either not vote, or rage vote for Trump.
     
    Yeah, but no. The Bernie Bros are a lot mellower this cycle than 2016. First of all, Biden didn't steal anything from Bernie, he won fair and square. So for the Bernie Bros, they are more embarrassed than angry at this development.

    Basically, I think a couple of the Chapos have publicly stated that they're not voting for Joe this fall, and that's about as far as it goes. Everybody else is on board, though most of them are disappointed nonetheless.

    Replies: @Kronos

  160. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    LOL, but it's not just the hair.

    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look white or almost white (e.g. Meg Tilly real name Margaret Chan, Phoebe Cates). Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can't quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking and when the stars all align, the sum is even greater than the parts and the result is a Eurasian beauty (BTW Tilly and Cates have both aged like milk but I suppose that is true of most women).


    Whereas people who are 50% black are almost always unmistakably black. You really need to get down to the 1/8 level before a mixed race black has a chance of "passing". And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Erik Blair, @Jpp, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @For what it's worth

    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look

    You are telling someone whose children are exactly that. Don’t try to sell ice to an Eskimo. 😉

  161. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    It’s hard to find the Trump voters right now. No doubt about it.

    But if the DNC was so confident about Biden, why are they funding Black Lives Matter and stoking the Covid hysteria?

    And this latest nonsense about Russian-paid bounties for dead GIs in Afghanistan..

    I’ve seen the 2020 election polling data.
    Where did all Trump’s support go? To Biden?

    Is it possible that, oh I don’t know, polling models are not very good?

    Biden or Trump, no matter. The game is over for the America I grew up in.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @res
    @botazefa

    The Corvinus seal of approval (aka his Disagree tag) leads me to another good comment. Thanks, Corvy!

  162. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    I'm very happy that someone with Tucker's impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @anonymous, @anon, @Ragno, @Corvinus, @map

    Attaboy, Steve. Don’t let these ‘clever’ bottomfeeders trick you into taking them even momentarily seriously.

    You, Carlson, and a tiny handful of others provide a sunbeam of hope in what seems like encroaching darkness on all sides. For which, humble thanks (but keep it up!)

  163. @vhrm

    Carlson next called on Republicans to “defend our freedom of speech.”

    “We are not a free society without that,” Carlson said. “This is not simply a debate about the First Amendment and its limits. It’s bigger than that and more important. If you can’t articulate something, if you’re not allowed, you can’t think. And that’s precisely why authoritarians try to control language. They’re trying to control your mind.
     

    The censorship and cancellation is the part that i still can't get my head around. It was the Left pushing for Hustler and making fun of Tipper Gore for her lyrics advisory stickers and such.

    And 1984 is still on many highschool reading lists. And China stands as an ongoing living example of politically motivated censorship on a massive scale

    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast? It's like if Dems suddenly came out against abortion or something. (which, btw they might once eugenics gets going again...)

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Unladen Swallow

    They believed in free speech when they didn’t control any institutions and later when there were still some they didn’t control yet, now they have it all, so no free speech for you!

    I also think around the 1990’s, they began see they were losing more and more arguments: The Soviet bloc and the Soviet Union collapsed, Giuliani reduced crime in the Big Apple rather dramatically after 30 years of increasing crime and population flight, much lower crime also lead to NYC’s resurgence economically, The Bell Curve came out and to anyone without far left biases crushed the intellectual competition ( It actually got a very positive review in the NYTBR ). Clinton and Blair moved their left parties to the right, this could not stand.

    I also think there was a changing of the guard in the media around 1989-90, the old time liberals who believed everyone deserved a hearing started retiring and were replaced by ideologues who weren’t going to give wrong thinkers any platform and also believed that there should be no distinction between reporting and editorializing. The broadcast media in particular were really shaken when the Democrats lost their third straight election in 1988, something had to be done.

    • Thanks: vhrm
  164. vhrm says:
    @Twinkie
    @PiltdownMan


    South Asians appear to have no special talent for the highly prestigious fine or performing arts, at least in America. It’s when an identifiable ethnic group controls the board of the Museum of Modern Art, or the studios in Hollywood, or white tie gala charity dinners, that they finally achieve dominance.
     
    That's a very quaint idea.

    They will dominate the tech industry and control what we see, read, and buy.

    Replies: @vhrm

    They will dominate the tech industry and control what we see, read, and buy.

    Mayve, but doesn’t seem too likely yet. Yes there are a few heavy hitters like Pichai and some VCs, and some guys are really good, but, anecdotaly, the _average_ quality is pretty low. Below Asians, eastern Europeans or native whites.

    Corporate America tried to give the tech industry to India on a silver platter 20+ years ago. Basically the same as they did with giving manufacturing to China…
    Tech is MUCH easier to move and even so India is still an also ran in tech whereas China ran away with manufacturing. And the Indians didn’t have the language barrier either. (or a considerably lower one)

    I think that’s suggestive.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @vhrm

    Technical ability is not the sole determinant of who controls an industry.

    See: https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/19/korean-american-software-engineer-claims-discrimination-by-intel-managers-of-indian-descent/

    Replies: @Anon

    , @anon
    @vhrm

    Mayve, but doesn’t seem too likely yet. Yes there are a few heavy hitters like Pichai and some VCs, and some guys are really good, but, anecdotaly, the _average_ quality is pretty low. Below Asians, eastern Europeans or native whites.

    Quality doesn't matter anymore, control is what matters. An IT caste coder who has to have his work redone by someone else can still rise in the managerial ranks, and then hire more of his cousin caste coders into the company. There's a lot of ruin in a company.

    Quality doesn't matter anymore. Look at Windows for an example. As long as it sorta kinda works and doesn't crash too often, business will continue to use it because as with IBM 35 years ago "everyone else uses this so it must be good" except now it's "good enough". So what if each new iteration is really not that different from an upgraded Windows98, it's new and business has to buy it and Office has some feature so upgrades must be done. Even if each upgrade then demands a patch to fix the bugs that shouldn't have been in a release version!

    Friends of mine in IT services who are white tell me some areas they cannot be hired at all, because of the caste coders who are part of hiring committees. The service may be strictly cookbook / script kiddie work, but it's gonna be done by caste coders, no one else.

  165. @Whiskey
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump is toast. Every White woman will be voting Biden like they support BLM. Huge black turnout. White men got the message. The entire system has an allergic reaction to Trump and White men do Orange Man Bad has to go or they burn you down.

    All that stuff in Seattle and Minneapolis polls great which is why it's spreading everywhere.

    It's 1933 and we are Jews. Flee, or hide. Now would be a good time to change your name to Lopez, get some skin darkener, and learn Spanish.

    Tuckers ratings are meaningless. Real power is held by the military, Black people, and Oli garchs. All hate us and Trump.

    We can't win. We can survive.

    Replies: @anon

    Tiny Whiskey

    [Fear, doubt, fear, more fear…]

    Huh. Take the blackpilling out and there’s nothing left.

    Why do you comment here? What’s your real motivation, dude?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    Is he here to make us look bad? Comparing us to the position of Jews in 1933 is just incredibly hyperbolic and stupid. There are many people who hate us and some healthy nationalism is good. But he never asks himself if we've done anything to put ourselves in this position. It's all just an endless victimhood parade reminiscent of SJWs.

    It's perfectly understandable for every single non-white man, woman, and child in America to hate Trump. Whiskey should stop trying to tie our cause as whites to that idiot.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  166. @vhrm
    @Twinkie


    They will dominate the tech industry and control what we see, read, and buy.
     
    Mayve, but doesn't seem too likely yet. Yes there are a few heavy hitters like Pichai and some VCs, and some guys are really good, but, anecdotaly, the _average_ quality is pretty low. Below Asians, eastern Europeans or native whites.

    Corporate America tried to give the tech industry to India on a silver platter 20+ years ago. Basically the same as they did with giving manufacturing to China...
    Tech is MUCH easier to move and even so India is still an also ran in tech whereas China ran away with manufacturing. And the Indians didn't have the language barrier either. (or a considerably lower one)

    I think that's suggestive.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @anon

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Twinkie

    Bro, you live in Kirkland?

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Twinkie

  167. anon[918] • Disclaimer says:
    @vhrm
    @Twinkie


    They will dominate the tech industry and control what we see, read, and buy.
     
    Mayve, but doesn't seem too likely yet. Yes there are a few heavy hitters like Pichai and some VCs, and some guys are really good, but, anecdotaly, the _average_ quality is pretty low. Below Asians, eastern Europeans or native whites.

    Corporate America tried to give the tech industry to India on a silver platter 20+ years ago. Basically the same as they did with giving manufacturing to China...
    Tech is MUCH easier to move and even so India is still an also ran in tech whereas China ran away with manufacturing. And the Indians didn't have the language barrier either. (or a considerably lower one)

    I think that's suggestive.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @anon

    Mayve, but doesn’t seem too likely yet. Yes there are a few heavy hitters like Pichai and some VCs, and some guys are really good, but, anecdotaly, the _average_ quality is pretty low. Below Asians, eastern Europeans or native whites.

    Quality doesn’t matter anymore, control is what matters. An IT caste coder who has to have his work redone by someone else can still rise in the managerial ranks, and then hire more of his cousin caste coders into the company. There’s a lot of ruin in a company.

    Quality doesn’t matter anymore. Look at Windows for an example. As long as it sorta kinda works and doesn’t crash too often, business will continue to use it because as with IBM 35 years ago “everyone else uses this so it must be good” except now it’s “good enough”. So what if each new iteration is really not that different from an upgraded Windows98, it’s new and business has to buy it and Office has some feature so upgrades must be done. Even if each upgrade then demands a patch to fix the bugs that shouldn’t have been in a release version!

    Friends of mine in IT services who are white tell me some areas they cannot be hired at all, because of the caste coders who are part of hiring committees. The service may be strictly cookbook / script kiddie work, but it’s gonna be done by caste coders, no one else.

  168. @Alfa158
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Dreydl smasher appears to be doing what they call “Fed-posting”.
    He is a government or NGO provocateur who periodically comes on here and hints without saying it explicitly that we should be randomly machine gunning Blacks and Jews in the street. Fed-posters can have a number of objectives. It can be used to try and identify people who agree with the sentiments then get them fired, investigated and harassed. It has been used to de-platform bloggers and web-sites. Fed-posters will flood the comments section with vicious dreck, then complain to the service provider about the hate speech on the site and get it removed.
    The extreme cases involve the Feds using agents and informers to solicit criminal acts. If you are in a political dissident movement and one of your newer members pipes up and says “hey fellas, enough of this useless talk, we need some action, I know where I can get us an M60 and a kilo of Semtex”, then you’ve got a Feeb in your ranks.

    Replies: @vhrm

    it’s 20 minutes after four….

  169. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    OneEightSix, nothing draws people to an event like "Free Food." Take that from a guy who represented a pasta company at "Race for the Cure" events all over the USA.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Up2Drew

    Agreed. There was a time, as a corporate IT manager, if I needed to gather an audience, I would let it be known that I would provide food at the meeting.

    Eventually, I gave up this strategy because the vegan, non-peanut, gluten-adverse crowd became more difficult than I cared to deal with. You useta be able to throw a couple of boxes of donuts on the boardroom table and the attendees would practically carry you out on their shoulders.

  170. @The Alarmist
    @Boethiuss


    Politically speaking, we’re at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry.
     
    You do realise that Dunkirk was about losing and running away, right? It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans and then running for the exits when the war quickly went against them.

    So, to where do you propose we run?

    Maybe you should have chosen to call this a Bastogne moment, a moment where the American military really showed its mettle in the middle of a series of screwups that almost cost them the war in the west.

    Replies: @Matra, @Boethiuss

    It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans

    Most low IQ post I’ve seen today.

  171. @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Tucker has been doing a great job of telling the truth without slipping outside the Overton Window frame.

    I was able to show my mother VDare's interview with the founder of Gab, but she still had to protest that saying whites should live separately from blacks was wrong.

    Censorship, firings, and social cancellations aren't enough. We need to wait, unfortunately, for the first BLM racial murders before we can talk real sense publicly.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @c matt

    whites should live separately from blacks was wrong

    It is wrong. The correct thinking is “whites should be allowed to live separately from blacks.” That’s the point of freedom of association. Neither forced to segregate, nor forced to integrate.

  172. @e
    @Dave Pinsen

    Tucker is intelligent and articulate and like Steve, he reads the social scientists whose work is rooted in diligent research. Heather MacDonald is a guest at times. I wish she'd get more air time.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Heather MacDonald is very good, but she has the worst hair stylist this side of Chicago’s bLACK lesbo mayor.

  173. @Twinkie
    @vhrm

    Technical ability is not the sole determinant of who controls an industry.

    See: https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/19/korean-american-software-engineer-claims-discrimination-by-intel-managers-of-indian-descent/

    Replies: @Anon

    Bro, you live in Kirkland?

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Anon

    I lived in greater Seattle for years, and spent time in the Bay, too. It's still not impossible to find places that prize objective technical ability over connections or the gift of the gab, especially if you pick a nice industry. But it is getting harder, and not everybody has the chops to do something niche. If you are an American kid with an IQ of 140 and a CS PhD from Berkeley, you'll be just fine. If you are an American kid with an IQ of 110 and a CS undergrad, then you are getting hit hard. And the problems for 40+ programmers just continue to pile up now that race has been added to age. Most Indian immigrants working in tech are (obviously) in their 20s, so it's even easier for middle management to justify nepotism.

    If technical ability determined who dominated the tech industry, we'd all be speaking Russian right now. Hands-down the best programmers I've met were from the former USSR or were Israelis with a Russian background.

    , @Twinkie
    @Anon

    No.

  174. @Boethiuss
    @Mr. Anon


    You are right that Trump is a useless blowhard. You are wrong that there is any meaningful alternative.
     
    Could be but I don't think so. Especially in light of the sort of scenarios that people are talking about, including here, the idea that Trump doesn't make it Election Day seems increasingly less outlandish every day.

    Among other things, how committed is Trump to playing out his hand and losing to Biden by say, 11 points? Not very much I don't believe. Trump is good when the chips are down, but things are different when there's no hope. If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he'd be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden's lead against Trump: there's no moves available to shake things up.

    Supposedly over the last week or so, Trump has been talking with his people about giving Biden a different nickname. "Sleepy Joe" just isn't getting the job done. Maybe if he were "Dopey Joe" instead, everything would be completely different. Right. At some point even Trump gets the idea of futility.

    Replies: @Thomas, @G. Wilkers, @c matt

    What he needs is “Where’s Joe”?

    Biden’s best strategy is to not show up, be silent, hide. The more Trump can draw him out, the better chance Joe screws up.

  175. Anonymous[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @dreydl smasher
    quite a revealing statement that millions read you yet no one acts. can only be saying something about the nature of your writing or the culture of your fans

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Polynikes, @Anonymous

    dreydl smasher commenting history – “over 10 comments since 2015.”

    Yes, paid provocateur, trying to provoke a twofer – rabid anti-semitism and statements that could be interpreted as “terrorist” i.e. non-approved violence, unlike the Deep State sponsored “Antifa.”

    BTW re Antifa – all the media “pundits” earnestly and relentlessly assure us that Antifa is absolutely amorphous – no leadership, no mid management, no definite followers. A perfect will-o’-the-wisp. Obviously, all approved talking points. Yet somehow, the diaphanous, intangible Antifa manages to put real $$$ into the pockets of dreydl smasher.

    Also, why do PROPONENTS of “Antifa” want to bring back the 1920s and 1930s in Germany? Are “Flappers” coming back too?

  176. @Dave Pinsen
    @Boethiuss


    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?
     
    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That's a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1275129838022598656?s=21


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1277339435257024516?s=21

    Replies: @wren, @Whiskey, @botazefa, @Corvinus, @Boethiuss, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    How do you reckon Trump is gonna do that? No police chiefs report to him.

    This is a huge problem in the US. People don’t understand how our government works. The Presidency is weak, intentionally so, particularly domestically.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @botazefa

    The federal government has its own law enforcement agencies - perhaps you've heard of some of them? - the FBI, the ATF, etc. What are the odds that the rioters have scrupulously avoided violating federal laws? Pretty slim.

    Replies: @botazefa

  177. @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    From her last name and light (hazel?) eyes, I suspect she's part white. I wonder if the same dynamic Jason Whitlock described about black-white mixed race activists applies to hapas.

    https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1275886856534515713?s=20

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Dave Pinsen

    I just realized I know who this girl is. Her mother was a lefty Jewish teacher in Manhattan, who adopted her from China. The girl is part French, I think. I gave the mother and her infant daughter a ride once (they were neighbors of a relative, before they moved to Connecticut), and remember thinking in 20 years therapists’ offices will be full of Chinese girls raised by Jewish single mothers.

  178. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    LOL, but it's not just the hair.

    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look white or almost white (e.g. Meg Tilly real name Margaret Chan, Phoebe Cates). Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can't quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking and when the stars all align, the sum is even greater than the parts and the result is a Eurasian beauty (BTW Tilly and Cates have both aged like milk but I suppose that is true of most women).


    Whereas people who are 50% black are almost always unmistakably black. You really need to get down to the 1/8 level before a mixed race black has a chance of "passing". And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Erik Blair, @Jpp, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @For what it's worth

    …Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can’t quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking …

    And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.

    Yep. Think of Tia Carrare (Cassandra) in Wayne’s World, with her as the fantasy woman and it’s the most believable. Yet if a black or mixed race black woman played that role it would be 100% total cringe.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Erik Blair


    Yep. Think of Tia Carrare (Cassandra) in Wayne’s World, with her as the fantasy woman and it’s the most believable. Yet if a black or mixed race black woman played that role it would be 100% total cringe.
     
    Heh. Ironically she played a half Japanese half black character in Rising Sun, iirc. Her hair style and makeup foundation color pushes the line on half-blackface.
    https://n450v.alamy.com/450v/f6j3hf/1993-film-title-rising-sun-director-philip-kaufman-pictured-tia-carrere-f6j3hf.jpg
  179. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    LOL, but it's not just the hair.

    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look white or almost white (e.g. Meg Tilly real name Margaret Chan, Phoebe Cates). Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can't quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking and when the stars all align, the sum is even greater than the parts and the result is a Eurasian beauty (BTW Tilly and Cates have both aged like milk but I suppose that is true of most women).


    Whereas people who are 50% black are almost always unmistakably black. You really need to get down to the 1/8 level before a mixed race black has a chance of "passing". And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Erik Blair, @Jpp, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @For what it's worth

    Chanda Prescott Weinstein definitely comes to mind here.

  180. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve Turley done say:


    Tucker Carlson CRUSHES CNN with HIGHEST RATED Program in Cable News HISTORY!!!

    But Tucker will likely push for war with China. In the end, just another fool.

    From Maddow’s Russia, Russia, Russia, to Tucky-wuck’s China, China, China.

    And no mention of Jewish Power.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous


    But Tucker will likely push for war with China.
     
    Wrong, Tonto. Tucker is against foreign adventurism. Read his book where, among other things, Tucker slams John Bolton for the war monger he is.
  181. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    I'm very happy that someone with Tucker's impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @anonymous, @anon, @Ragno, @Corvinus, @map

    “I’m very happy that someone with Tucker’s impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020.”

    How elitist of you to say. Are you channeling your inner Sarah Jeong?

    • Troll: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Hearts on Fire
    @Corvinus

    Your biggest problem CoreVagina is that you're a humorless drone. Boring and repetitive. Your banal, uninspired snark makes corporate shitlib boilerplate seem like novel and courageous philsophical discourse in contrast.

    And yes, this is according to Who, Whom.

    Who: your betters
    Whom: your tedious sjw incubator shriveled amygdala droppings.

  182. @Not my Economy
    Tucker, good points but right wing politics actually need to go even more basic: Physical security

    Absolute right to self defense, period. Qualified immunity for normal citizens peacefully going about their lives who get harassed by mobs.

    People are watching this and they’re afraid (correctly) that if they defend themselves it’ll get even worse as they will then be arrested.

    Literally call it the “f—k around and find out” act. Black and Hispanic people will support this. Nobody, nobody, believes that you should be allowed to block traffic, attack people in their cars and then they can’t do anything about it. White libs are 100% cynical on this and the sooner you call that bluff the better

    Tucker maybe can “build a political movement” as some have suggested but ultimately politics is patronage, so having a good talker who “gets it” is useless if he doesn’t have an actual power base to deliver material results.

    Replies: @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    Qualified immunity for normal citizens peacefully going about their lives who get harassed by mobs

    Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

  183. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    Sounds like someone unable to catch a cute white boy, unlike all of her much cuter friends.

  184. @Harry Baldwin
    @vhrm

    When I was young, liberals supported free speech because they were confident they could win any political argument on the facts. They've come to realize that their arguments are no longer persuasive, so speech repression works better for them.

    There are other reasons, too of course. When they're not in power, leftists are in favor of all sorts of freedoms they can use to destabilize authority; once they're in power, it's in their interest to restrict those freedoms.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Testing12

    It’s not free speech, and it never was free speech. It’s always been MY speech.

  185. @anon
    Maybe he might even pick up a mainstream national advertiser or two?

    If it was "all about money" he would. Unfortunately I doubt that will happen.

    Therefore it is not "all about money".

    Replies: @Muggles

    What? You haven’t loaded up on MyPillow products yet?

  186. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    "I’m very happy that someone with Tucker’s impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America."

    According to Who/Whom?

    "Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020."

    How elitist of you to say. Are you channeling your inner Sarah Jeong?

    Replies: @Hearts on Fire

    Your biggest problem CoreVagina is that you’re a humorless drone. Boring and repetitive. Your banal, uninspired snark makes corporate shitlib boilerplate seem like novel and courageous philsophical discourse in contrast.

    And yes, this is according to Who, Whom.

    Who: your betters
    Whom: your tedious sjw incubator shriveled amygdala droppings.

  187. @Dave Pinsen
    @Boethiuss


    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?
     
    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That's a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1275129838022598656?s=21


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1277339435257024516?s=21

    Replies: @wren, @Whiskey, @botazefa, @Corvinus, @Boethiuss, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    “We’re luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve?”

    LOL. All this time, Mr. Sailer could have used his backchannels to get six degrees of Kevin Bacon closer to Trump’s inner circle and convince The Donald of his master pattern recognition skills. And you of all people should know by now that Trump is all about his brand and his way of doing things, which is why his advisors have been a revolving door. You really think Mr. Sailer wants to be part of the circus with that clown?

    “One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump.”

    Since when? Mr. Sailer generally steers clear of directly confronting Trump’s foibles and malfeasance. He throws a bone here and there, but deep down he knows that Trump is a train wreck, but he is not about to alienate those who pay his bills.

    “To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).”

    Did you drop a barbell on your noggin’? We know what is Trump by now. He will have to curb every instinct in his body to win back those he pissed off with his lack of direction, his use of Jewish advisors, and his knack for putting his interests first above the nation.

    “Another would be locking up rioters en masse.”

    I thought that is a local responsibility. Besides, if he was serious about taking that stance, he would have done it by now.

    “It’s 4 months to the election. That’s a long time by 2020 standards.”

    Now that is true. I do not necessarily believe the polls that say Biden is way ahead. And we do know that Trump is counting on outside interference to help him in his re-election bid. But make no mistake about it, Trump is in definitive trouble to get re-elected.

    “One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.”

    It’s all about the economy. Trump said to judge him on that, and the people will come November.

    • Troll: Anonymousse
    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @Corvinus


    And we do know that Trump is counting on outside interference to help him in his re-election bid. But make no mistake about it, Trump is in definitive trouble to get re-elected.
     
    Indeed. What's the latest on the lawfare surrounding universal mail-in balloting? If this comes to pass, Trump is toast. It's hard enough for any Republican to overcome the margin of theft as it is; it would be too easy to manufacture hundreds of thousands of phony mail ballots in swing states.
  188. @Thulean Friend
    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes. So good news, but with some caveats.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb, @Magic Dirt Resident, @For what it's worth, @KenH

    I think Ross Douthat observed that the boycotters targeted Tucker and Laura Ingraham for boycotts because they were seen as threats. They stopped threatening boycotts against Hannity because they feared that any replacement for him would do more “harm” than he does.

    One cheerful liberal guest on Tucker said, “Tucker, I know that you’re an intelligent guy, unlike the host of the show that airs after you . . .” Tucker smirked and said, “Don’t,” but you could tell he loved hearing that. He often smirks just before passing the baton to Hannity.

    Trump has praised Tucker as a “smart man . . . a thinking man.” He’s never said anything like that about Hannity.

    Someone on this chain praised Hannity’s guests. It is true, he often has informed guests who do real journalism.

  189. @Thulean Friend
    Hannity is just behind him though, and Hannity is the king of Boomer Takes. So good news, but with some caveats.

    Replies: @Moral Stone, @Dan Hayes, @Mr. Anon, @SunBakedSuburb, @Magic Dirt Resident, @For what it's worth, @KenH

    I don’t watch Hannity anymore. Tucker deals with serious issues and as soon as he’s done Hannity starts babbling about the Durham investigating and how the deep state is on the run. And rather than being nuanced and objective about the George Floyd case he threw the officers right under the bus as did Judge Jeannie and many other cucks.

  190. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    LOL, but it's not just the hair.

    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look white or almost white (e.g. Meg Tilly real name Margaret Chan, Phoebe Cates). Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can't quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking and when the stars all align, the sum is even greater than the parts and the result is a Eurasian beauty (BTW Tilly and Cates have both aged like milk but I suppose that is true of most women).


    Whereas people who are 50% black are almost always unmistakably black. You really need to get down to the 1/8 level before a mixed race black has a chance of "passing". And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Erik Blair, @Jpp, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @For what it's worth

    I think Phoebe Cates is 1/4 Filipino and 1/4 Russian Jew. That’s exotic.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Sgt. Joe Friday


    I think Phoebe Cates is 1/4 Filipino and 1/4 Russian Jew. That’s exotic.
     
    She was wary about signing up for that Blue Lagoon knockoff. But her father, with whom she grew up after her parents split, her own father, burst out with "What?! You're being offered the lead rôle in a feature film, and you're worried about a little nudity?"

    Happy belated Fathers Day, Mr Cates.
  191. @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross


    Hannity did first-rate work on the Michael Flynn story.
     
    That may all be true. And certainly, the whole Russia-Collusion / Ukraine / Impeachment fracas was a ridiculous and diversion, cooked up by the Democrats to undermine Trump and paralyze his administration. It was outrageous and evil.

    But, it doesn't matter. The only people who care about it are conservatives / Republicans who are all going to vote and all going to vote for the Republican candidate anyway. Independents mostly don't pay attention to all that inside-baseball stuff - it's just background noise to them. And they are the ones who ultimately determine the outcome of the election. Washington scandals are never the issue that propels Republicans into the Whitehouse.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @ATBOTL

    And certainly, the whole Russia-Collusion / Ukraine / Impeachment fracas was a ridiculous and diversion, cooked up by the Democrats

    It was Collusion / Obstruction / Ukraine / Pandemic.

    C/O/U/P for short.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Ozymandias


    It was Collusion / Obstruction / Ukraine / Pandemic.

    C/O/U/P for short.
     
    That's good.
  192. @Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    Coulter is very good at attacking, but not so good at leading. Trump needs ideas and suggestions, not attacks.

    Replies: @Joseph Doaks

    Trump needs to keep his campaign promises.

  193. A few thoughts:

    – Yes, Tucker is the only thing I regularly watch on TV. Even when I disagree with him (he seems to think the Niskanen Institute is really libertarian, and not some pseudo Koch front). “News” from the MSM is now 90% Pravda style propaganda, though usually dumber.

    –CHAZ or CHOP is no more. So our Seattle Bolsheviks are no more. Only about 23 arrested in this early morning sweep. Talk about Potemkin Villages! Lots of empty tents left, soon to be dumpsterized. Big sale on all tent styles this weekend on Craigs List up there. Summer of Love is Over.

    –BLM has announced a “virtual national convention” in August where they will Tell Us what is up. Online of course. Will probably end up like the Iowa Dem Caucuses did. (Anyone remember that Woke event?). So register early for your slot. Google only has so many trillion terra flops available. Don’t know if there will be a racial qualification for entry. Maybe. Everyone will have their say, not.

    –Immigration all vastly down. US troops slowly being withdrawn from NATO, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. Stock market largely recovering and that will continue as lockdowns cease.

    The reality is, for both the NYT/CNN/WaPo axis of evil and the Fox resistance, most of the reported turmoil and drama is just a figment of your imagination. Burning stuff makes good pictures. Stupid angry people breaking windows is drama for fools. Antifa is LARPing for losers. So relax Boomers, and everyone else. This will quickly seem like an extended Silly Season. “Face Masks are So 2020!”

    • Replies: @anon
    @Muggles

    –CHAZ or CHOP is no more.

    Suspect Antifa pulled their people out sometime in the last 5 - 7 days because Bad Orange Man didn't take the bait. What was left behind? Street people, joggers, randomoids. All expendable as far as Antifa is concerned.

    Bet Rapper Warlord was gone before this AM. Ditto the guys with the radios.

    We all remember how SPAZ was gonna be cop-free so all peace, and in the last five days 3 people got shot with one dead, right?

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

  194. @tyrone
    @Colin Wright

    Make sure the car is a beater.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Make sure the car is a beater.’

    No problem there. I’ve never paid more than $5500 for a car in my life.

  195. @Anon
    Why doesn’t Trump tap Tucker as VP? Offer Pence something which is a better fit for his personality.

    Seems like an easy way to shake things up in a failing campaign. Plus, he’s young, so he can campaign during upcoming COVID season.

    Maybe I’m missing something?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Why doesn’t Trump tap Tucker as VP? Offer Pence something which is a better fit for his personality.

    Seems like an easy way to shake things up in a failing campaign. Plus, he’s young, so he can campaign during upcoming COVID season.

    Maybe I’m missing something?’

    I’m pretty sure you are missing something. Pence is a Christian Zionist. The Israel Lobby lets Trump have his second term; they at last get their war with Iran in 2025.

    Heads we lose, tails they win.

  196. @The Alarmist
    @Boethiuss


    Politically speaking, we’re at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry.
     
    You do realise that Dunkirk was about losing and running away, right? It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans and then running for the exits when the war quickly went against them.

    So, to where do you propose we run?

    Maybe you should have chosen to call this a Bastogne moment, a moment where the American military really showed its mettle in the middle of a series of screwups that almost cost them the war in the west.

    Replies: @Matra, @Boethiuss

    You do realise that Dunkirk was about losing and running away, right? It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans and then running for the exits when the war quickly went against them.

    That’s right. Dunkirk was an evacuation, and you don’t win wars by evacuating. Still it was absolutely necessary, and a substantial victory of sorts, at the time.

    A successful evacuation now seems less likely but would a momentous godsend if by some miracle we could pull it off. But even if we do, we’re in for a tough road ahead, and that’s the best case. If things go pear-shaped, some of the foundations of our society could collapse and a lot of us could die or experience severe privation.

    But let’s say that doesn’t happen. We’re going to need all the resources we can muster to defeat the Left, its deconstructionist ideology and the organizational power associated with it. As things stand, a lot of our resources are tied up with Trump and his bullshit. Even with all our resources it’s going to be a slog, but for sure nothing good is going to happen until we’re free of Trump.

    So, to where do you propose we run?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Boethiuss


    We’re going to need all the resources we can muster to defeat the Left, its deconstructionist ideology and the organizational power associated with it.
     
    The Left controls most of the open space, most of the high ground, and all of the lines of communication. The Right, whatever that may be these days, will have to melt into the farms, forests and swamps and start a guerilla campaign to bring them down. A good start would be cessation of food shipments to the major media and political centres. This thing about truckers not delivering to cities that defund or stand police down, for example, could be a catalyst for this.
  197. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    She speaks in Ebonics her IQ can’t be over 115.

  198. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, yeah. Lots of people are reading Sailer, lots of people are watching Tucker. You know what they're not doing? They're not voting for Donald Trump.

    Like those mansion-owners in St Louis who waved guns at the advancing mob. Supposedly they are Democrat donors and BLM supporters. Trump ain't getting their vote. And let's face it, even if they were more MAGA-friendly, they still might not be voting for The Donald. Pointing guns at rioters has a meaningful real-world effect: the rioters back off. It's hard to say what exactly voting Trump is supposed to be good for.

    Politically speaking, we're at Dunkirk now. And if we actually acted like we were in Dunkirk, we could get a lot done in a hurry. But we're not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @Kronos, @Cloudbuster, @The Alarmist, @EmailAsID, @SunBakedSuburb, @botazefa, @Kyle

    Yeah, no. The gun toting mansion dwellers are voting for trump with 100% likelihood.

  199. @Thomas
    @Boethiuss


    If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he’d be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden’s lead against Trump: there’s no moves available to shake things up.
     
    The way 2020 has gone so far, there's a very good chance of further crises that could allow Trump to finally act Presidential, if the notion of doing so ever comes to him. If it doesn't though, he's probably toast.

    And frankly, based on past performance, he's unlikely to meaningfully take advantage of any opportunities that do come. He spent his first three years in office goofing off and frittering away the opportunities to build the credibility and authority he'd need in a crisis. Once the crises did come, he tried to duck responsibility where any halfway-competent political leader would've siezed the moment. I hate to say it, but the phrase "character is destiny" so beloved by the cucks has some validity.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @HammerJack

    The way 2020 has gone so far, there’s a very good chance of further crises that could allow Trump to finally act Presidential, if the notion of doing so ever comes to him. If it doesn’t though, he’s probably toast.

    Yeah that’s true, but it’s still understating things. Because let’s say that some kind of crisis arises, or our current crises crystallize in a new way, and in response Trump is Presidential, smart, purposeful, and decisive. What is that supposed to change? Probably not very much in my view.

    It’s not so much that the American people disapprove of Trump (though they do), it’s that they have definitely made up their mind on the subject and don’t intend to reconsider the situation.

  200. I can’t tell if Mr. Carlson is an avid isteve reader. Or If your talking points are just general right wing talking points that everyone in aggregate is already talking about on Twitter. I thought I had a smoking gun a couple of years ago that would have outed Mr. Carlson as a dyed in the wool isteve reader. Perhaps even a regular commenter. He really does seem to broadcast much of what you have to say. Which is a good thing. I should search my own comment history because I really did have a smoking gun a couple of years ago. But that’s probably irrelevant in the current year.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Kyle


    I should search my own comment history because I really did have a smoking gun a couple of years ago. But that’s probably irrelevant in the current year.
     
    Why do that? Best to keep quiet.
  201. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    LOL, but it's not just the hair.

    People who are 50% white and 50% Asian can sometimes look white or almost white (e.g. Meg Tilly real name Margaret Chan, Phoebe Cates). Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can't quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking and when the stars all align, the sum is even greater than the parts and the result is a Eurasian beauty (BTW Tilly and Cates have both aged like milk but I suppose that is true of most women).


    Whereas people who are 50% black are almost always unmistakably black. You really need to get down to the 1/8 level before a mixed race black has a chance of "passing". And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Erik Blair, @Jpp, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @For what it's worth

    Alicia Keys and Halle Berry?

  202. @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    OT: coming on the heels of the democrats denouncing Trump's "white supremacy" rally at ... Mount Rushmore (which the dems totally won't demolish the second they get the chance), the Western Canon is about to be burned:


    “Were my colleagues and I right to think that the institution to which we had given much of our professional lives could be reformed? Was our particular culture as teachers of Western culture compromised to the core? If it was, must we then, well, defund the teaching of the canon?”

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/prufrock/a-muddled-argument-against-the-western-canon/
     

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    The last time there was conflict at Mt. Rushmore:

  203. @Dave Pinsen
    @Boethiuss


    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?
     
    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That's a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1275129838022598656?s=21


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1277339435257024516?s=21

    Replies: @wren, @Whiskey, @botazefa, @Corvinus, @Boethiuss, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    Well yeah, that’s just the point. There’s lots of things going on which the American people don’t approve of, and ought to increase support for the Republican Party and its politicians. And for that matter, there’s a lot of good commentary floating around from lots of people associated with this or that place on the right. But that plainly ain’t happening, the part about the helping the Republicans.

    Normie white America desperately wants to not be associated with Trump, and that colors everything they do in our public political culture, and a lot of our private culture as well. For that matter, the rest of America doesn’t want anything to do with America either, but it’s normie white America which is salient for a lot of i-Stevers.

    Specifically, if the GOP wants to improve its approval or likely voting intentions among white people, the first thing that has to happen is to get rid of Trump.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    There’s yuuuuge upside in dumping Trump (or quitting, dying, whatever). We create an avenue for normie white America to disapprove of arson or riots, or NYT hair harpies and the rest of it, without being associated with Donald Trump, either in their own mind or anywhere else.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Boethiuss

    I don't disagree with your ideas about Trump, but there's a massive problem with the idea that if you get rid of Trump, the GOP can easily win: the mainstream, "respectable" GOP and its radioactive zombie Reaganism is a huge part of why millions of Americans who thought Donald Trump was completely unqualified to be President in the spring of 2016 decided to take an unlikely gamble and support him anyway. Remember 2012 when they decided the most logical move in the worst economic crisis since the Depression would be to nominate a man whose claim to fame was banking? You can't separate that and the glee many viewers took at Jeb Bush's visible implosion after painstakingly being given every advantage possible by Conservatism Inc. four years later.

    Replacing Trump with some Romney-esque figure is not going to win the election, no matter how outrageous the Democrats get. At a time of spiking unemployment, the last thing voters want to hear is paeans to big business and stupid foreign interventions. A GOP candidate willing to raise the middle finger to the donor class and publicly questions why the party consistently favors the hyper-wealthy-many of whom don't even support them anymore-at the expense of ordinary Americans will get far more enthusiasm than Donald Trump ever received in 2016 *and* be able to subsequently tap into the brewing anti-leftist backlash. I mean, just look at Corporate America's tacit alliance with today's neo-Cultural Revolutionists. Economic Right and Cultural Left are deep friends. This isn't hard stuff.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  204. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    I'm very happy that someone with Tucker's impressive skills is speaking out so intelligently on how to save America.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @anonymous, @anon, @Ragno, @Corvinus, @map

    My God…

    Tucker even called out the propositional nation.

  205. @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous


    She represents the future of elites in America.
     
    If you mean her specifically, she was the only child of a single Jewish school-teacher mom, age 68, who died last year of cancer in her sophomore year. No mention of a dad, at all. That's a pretty rough start, and the Harvard degree will be her only asset, I daresay, for some time, as she tries to get a toehold in the elites.

    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Twinkie, @fish, @International Jew

    She’s attractive……she’ll be planning a wedding with her new Jewish mother in law in no time!

  206. @Boethiuss
    @Dave Pinsen


    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.
     
    Well yeah, that's just the point. There's lots of things going on which the American people don't approve of, and ought to increase support for the Republican Party and its politicians. And for that matter, there's a lot of good commentary floating around from lots of people associated with this or that place on the right. But that plainly ain't happening, the part about the helping the Republicans.

    Normie white America desperately wants to not be associated with Trump, and that colors everything they do in our public political culture, and a lot of our private culture as well. For that matter, the rest of America doesn't want anything to do with America either, but it's normie white America which is salient for a lot of i-Stevers.

    Specifically, if the GOP wants to improve its approval or likely voting intentions among white people, the first thing that has to happen is to get rid of Trump.


    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.
     
    There's yuuuuge upside in dumping Trump (or quitting, dying, whatever). We create an avenue for normie white America to disapprove of arson or riots, or NYT hair harpies and the rest of it, without being associated with Donald Trump, either in their own mind or anywhere else.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    I don’t disagree with your ideas about Trump, but there’s a massive problem with the idea that if you get rid of Trump, the GOP can easily win: the mainstream, “respectable” GOP and its radioactive zombie Reaganism is a huge part of why millions of Americans who thought Donald Trump was completely unqualified to be President in the spring of 2016 decided to take an unlikely gamble and support him anyway. Remember 2012 when they decided the most logical move in the worst economic crisis since the Depression would be to nominate a man whose claim to fame was banking? You can’t separate that and the glee many viewers took at Jeb Bush’s visible implosion after painstakingly being given every advantage possible by Conservatism Inc. four years later.

    Replacing Trump with some Romney-esque figure is not going to win the election, no matter how outrageous the Democrats get. At a time of spiking unemployment, the last thing voters want to hear is paeans to big business and stupid foreign interventions. A GOP candidate willing to raise the middle finger to the donor class and publicly questions why the party consistently favors the hyper-wealthy-many of whom don’t even support them anymore-at the expense of ordinary Americans will get far more enthusiasm than Donald Trump ever received in 2016 *and* be able to subsequently tap into the brewing anti-leftist backlash. I mean, just look at Corporate America’s tacit alliance with today’s neo-Cultural Revolutionists. Economic Right and Cultural Left are deep friends. This isn’t hard stuff.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @nebulafox


    I don’t disagree with your ideas about Trump, but there’s a massive problem with the idea that if you get rid of Trump, the GOP can easily win: the mainstream, “respectable” GOP and its radioactive zombie Reaganism is a huge part of why millions of Americans who thought Donald Trump was completely unqualified to be President in the spring of 2016 decided to take an unlikely gamble and support him anyway. Remember 2012 when they decided the most logical move in the worst economic crisis since the Depression would be to nominate a man whose claim to fame was banking? You can’t separate that and the glee many viewers took at Jeb Bush’s visible implosion after painstakingly being given every advantage possible by Conservatism Inc. four years later.
     
    Yeah that's right, and that train of thought was important in 2016. It's not so important now. The only people who care about getting one over on !Jeb! or Marco Rubio are the bitter-enders here and elsewhere.

    Sometimes you gotta zig, and sometimes you gotta zag. Jeb and Rubio aren't on the ballot this fall, we'd be way better off if they were. There's still some antagonism and resistance to corporatist Chamber-of-Commerce style Republicanism, but whatever it is is a gnat compared to the nuclear bomb of radioactivity that is Trump.

    Replacing Trump with some Romney-esque figure is not going to win the election, no matter how outrageous the Democrats get. At a time of spiking unemployment, the last thing voters want to hear is paeans to big business and stupid foreign interventions. A GOP candidate willing to raise the middle finger to the donor class and publicly questions why the party consistently favors the hyper-wealthy-many of whom don’t even support them anymore-at the expense of ordinary Americans will get far more enthusiasm than Donald Trump ever received in 2016 *and* be able to subsequently tap into the brewing anti-leftist backlash. I mean, just look at Corporate America’s tacit alliance with today’s neo-Cultural Revolutionists. Economic Right and Cultural Left are deep friends. This isn’t hard stuff.
     
    This is plausible, but for now at least it's all coulda woulda shoulda. The biggest unknown in American politics right now is what the post-Trump lay of the land will look like, specifically how much of it will be defined by reverberations about Trump personally versus how much be water under the bridge.

    We're going to be in a post-Trump world soon enough anyway. Might as well find out sooner rather than later.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  207. @Mr. Anon
    @vhrm


    How did the Left switch to be anti-speech so fast?
     
    It's simple. They were never for free speech. They promoted free speech only when it was necessary to get their speech a hearing. They promoted pornography and other forms of degeneracy to undermine society. After they came to have a monopoly over the media, they dispensed with the notion of free speech, which they never believed in anyway. They're still for promoting the degeneracy though.

    Replies: @Pierre de Craon

    Precisely. That this and similar obvious stuff has to be explained to people at this late date is cause for despair.

    As for Tucker Carlson, why don’t folks see that the monologue everyone is applauding had enough winks and nods to the Establishment to win him the ADL’s Most Righteous Goy award for 2020? No one, no one, no one who talks nowadays about “equality for all” is a friend or supporter of the historic American nation. It was this very sort of weasel-worded crap that sixty years ago helped turn Harvard, Yale, Berkeley, UCLA, and Wisconsin—even such outliers as Catholic University and Notre Dame—into merely more picturesque clones of Yeshiva University.

    Equality for all is a lie, and I have had a bellyful of lies. Even as my 75th birthday nears, I am ready to march for someone, but only someone, who calls for restoration of a legal system proudly and openly biased in favor of US citizens, particularly Christians. All other postures are the work of what those addicted to understatement call managed opposition. Those who prefer plain speech, however, use the term treachery.

  208. @botazefa
    @Boethiuss

    It's hard to find the Trump voters right now. No doubt about it.

    But if the DNC was so confident about Biden, why are they funding Black Lives Matter and stoking the Covid hysteria?

    And this latest nonsense about Russian-paid bounties for dead GIs in Afghanistan..

    I've seen the 2020 election polling data.
    Where did all Trump's support go? To Biden?

    Is it possible that, oh I don't know, polling models are not very good?

    Biden or Trump, no matter. The game is over for the America I grew up in.

    Replies: @res

    The Corvinus seal of approval (aka his Disagree tag) leads me to another good comment. Thanks, Corvy!

  209. And that’s precisely why authoritarians try to control language. They’re trying to control your mind. Republicans should lead the fight against this without shame. Americans have the absolute right to tell the truth.

    Republicans haven’t got a leg to stand on here. Both sides of the US Death Machine have equally dirty hands when it comes to trying to prevent BadThink.

    Think for one second how the (R) cult behaves about stuff like flag-burning, ‘obscenity’ (including blasphemy), and Smith Act[1] type shit. Stupid shit that specifically tries to control how individuals are permitted to express themselves.

    And (R)s started the expensive, fuckwitted, inhumane, counterproductive, harmful, pointless War on Drugs.

    And you can bet your bottom dollar that if Darth Ginsberg croaks when an (R) is in charge, the replacement apparatchik will ensure that the BlackRobes will re-approve government interference in women’s reproductive rights. That is, Roe v Wade will be overturned – using the same dishonest mechanism used in Buck v Bell… i.e., appealing a deliberately-faulty case all the way to the BlackRobes.

    Bowtie-Boy Carson has got his panties in a bunch because at the present moment, his side (the (R)s) are on the receiving end. Lawks-a-Lawdy, he done seen the light.

    Suck it: reap what you sow, motherfuckers.

    [1] I know that the Smith Act was passed while a (D) was having a turn on the throne, but ZERO (R)s at the time were opposed. The Act passed the House 382-4; the 4 ‘Nay’ votes were 3 (D)s and one ‘American Labor’. Even abstentions – i.e., voting “Present” – went 3:2 (27:18) for the (D)s.

  210. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @Whiskey

    Tiny Whiskey

    [Fear, doubt, fear, more fear...]

    Huh. Take the blackpilling out and there's nothing left.

    Why do you comment here? What's your real motivation, dude?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Is he here to make us look bad? Comparing us to the position of Jews in 1933 is just incredibly hyperbolic and stupid. There are many people who hate us and some healthy nationalism is good. But he never asks himself if we’ve done anything to put ourselves in this position. It’s all just an endless victimhood parade reminiscent of SJWs.

    It’s perfectly understandable for every single non-white man, woman, and child in America to hate Trump. Whiskey should stop trying to tie our cause as whites to that idiot.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    If nothing else, unlike with the Jews in 1933 there are plenty of places in Asia that would welcome white American emigrants. I've lived in Taiwan for five years and never experienced any anti-white animus. It's not inconceivable that Whiskey himself might have to move to Asia if there's a really bad economic crisis. I could imagine the result: after years of demanding that immigrants assimilate into the majority culture, he'd start crying about how Asian countries don't value his FREEDOM to pollute the internet with his conspiracy theories. When I was in Taiwan, you occasionally heard about some white American man who thought he could make a fortune in an under-served market by translating conspiracy garbage into butchered Mandarin. His visa got revoked. They have this crazy idea that immigrants shouldn't be allowed in unless they actually contribute something to their society. The same thing happened to American SJWs (usually Taiwanese-American and often female) who came subvert Taiwanese society, though it may be different now with the DPP in charge.

  211. @Reg Cæsar
    @Boethiuss


    MAGA-friendly
     
    I just saw a bumper reading "Make America Native Again".

    I kind of like "Make America America Again". Pairs well with riot footage.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Cato

    I kind of like “Make America America Again”. Pairs well with riot footage.

    MAAA — sounds like a child yelling for his mother to come in from the fields. But I do like it: the America I grew up in (earliest memories from 1958) was a wonderful place, where we all felt patriotic — on the same team, and very, very proud.

  212. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    In lesser news, iSteve broke the one million page view mark in June, my highest monthly figure since a handful of million page months in 2017-2018.

    All it takes for Tucker and me to get high ratings is anarchy in the streets.

    Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020.

    Any method of measuring the quality of your readership? Methinks you’re farther from having any real influence than you were a decade ago. The general brand of nationalism/citizenism is now associated with all kinds of crackpottery. It’s even worse than being associated with neonazi biker gangs, who at least have some level of sex appeal. These fatasses chewing on their Cheetos and going on about vaccines are poison and wearing masks is slavery, they are just the lowest form of man. You can’t be blamed for this development, but you didn’t exactly do much to counter it either.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous


    Any method of measuring the quality of your readership?
     
    It took a noticeable turn for the worse when commenter Anonymous[276] showed up.
  213. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    We're luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve? Your friend Scott McConnell golfs at one of his clubs and mentioned chatting with Trump in the locker room once - maybe you need to relocate to DC for a bit and golf with him more.

    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you've both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1278188926025506816?s=20

    Replies: @Anon, @Boethiuss, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Alden

    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.

    This is the kind of stuff you expect to hear in dictatorships. There, it makes sense to only give “constructive criticism” to the dictator because you have no alternative. But we could have had an alternative. If Tucker Carlson and Steve Sailer and all the rest of the national conservative Right had condemned him, we could have had a candidate with 20% of the vote in Iowa. He would have been forced to listen. But this didn’t happen because of the spinelessness of the Right.

    After this is all over, after Trump’s gone, we’re going to remember who was brave enough to tell the truth, and who wasn’t.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Anonymous


    After this is all over, after Trump’s gone, we’re going to remember who was brave enough to tell the truth, and who wasn’t.
     
    And it'll be the brave Anonymous[276] huh?
  214. @Anonymous
    OT: An asian American senior at Harvard complains about whites who say all live matter:

    https://www.twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1278000057145491456

    She had something to say earlier as well:

    https://www.twitter.com/LummoxAHH/status/1278150836720480258

    She represents the future of elites in America.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Dave Pinsen, @indocon, @ThreeCranes, @SunBakedSuburb, @Prester John, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Kyle, @Jim Don Bob

    “The Harvard graduate who said in a TikTok video that she would “stab” anyone who told her “All Lives Matter” revealed in a new pair of recordings that she has lost her job over the perceived threats and ensuing furor.”

    Not suprisingly, it’s all DJT’s fault.

    She’s a cute girl; it’s hard to believe someone could be so hate filled by 21.

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/01/harvard-grad-claira-janover-lost-deloitte-job-over-tiktok-stab-threat/

  215. Wow, look at all the new commenters! Many of them saying pretty much the same thing!

    Plus we still have paid-commenter Coronvinus and black-pill Boethiuss!

    It’s all so special!

  216. @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross


    Hannity did first-rate work on the Michael Flynn story.
     
    That may all be true. And certainly, the whole Russia-Collusion / Ukraine / Impeachment fracas was a ridiculous and diversion, cooked up by the Democrats to undermine Trump and paralyze his administration. It was outrageous and evil.

    But, it doesn't matter. The only people who care about it are conservatives / Republicans who are all going to vote and all going to vote for the Republican candidate anyway. Independents mostly don't pay attention to all that inside-baseball stuff - it's just background noise to them. And they are the ones who ultimately determine the outcome of the election. Washington scandals are never the issue that propels Republicans into the Whitehouse.

    Replies: @Ozymandias, @ATBOTL

    That’s the kind of stuff that Tucker was criticizing in this segment. Types like Hannity like to focus on trivial details as a way of avoiding talking about the larger issues that are confronting conservatives. They can fill up a whole show or a whole month going into the minutiae of Peter Strzok’s text messages so they don’t have any time left to notice Trump selling out or white people being attacked in the street. Hannity has always been awful. He has always tried to steer his listeners away from nationalism and towards neocon neoliberalism. Never forget that Hannity did a complete sell out on amnesty for illegals after Romney lost and then did his best to soft sell the Gang The Eight Amnesty to his skeptical listeners.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @ATBOTL

    I agree. Hannity is a neocon tool, in addition to being a meathead. And while, yes, the whole Russia/Ukraine/Collusion hoax was utter BS, from the dossier, through Strzok/Paige and up through the impeachment, in the end it doesn't much matter. Trump squandered the opportunity he was given, and none of us should forgive him for that.

  217. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:

    If you like gallows humor:

    How to Quit without Being a Quitter (by Kevin Williamson)

    “I have important things to do, and very profitable businesses to run. I was never a politician. I never wanted to be a politician. I did this for the country. But I can only do so much. I had always planned to be a one-term president, but, of course, I couldn’t announce that, because it would have put me in a weak negotiating position and kept me from getting all these great deals done, which I have accomplished. The only reason I allowed my name to be put on the ballot a second time around was because no one on the Republican side stepped up, so there was only me. The Republicans just don’t know how to win. I know how to win. And I won the one I wanted to win, the one that counted. I can’t keep carrying these losers for another four years.”

    Randomize the capitalization and muck up the spelling, put it on Twitter, and that’s the story.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @anon


    If you like gallows humor:

    How to Quit without Being a Quitter (by Kevin Williamson)

    “I have important things to do, and very profitable businesses to run. I was never a politician. I never wanted to be a politician. I did this for the country. But I can only do so much. I had always planned to be a one-term president, but, of course, I couldn’t announce that, because it would have put me in a weak negotiating position and kept me from getting all these great deals done, which I have accomplished. The only reason I allowed my name to be put on the ballot a second time around was because no one on the Republican side stepped up, so there was only me. The Republicans just don’t know how to win. I know how to win. And I won the one I wanted to win, the one that counted. I can’t keep carrying these losers for another four years.”

    Randomize the capitalization and muck up the spelling, put it on Twitter, and that’s the story.
     
    God, it would make my year if that happened.
  218. @anonymous
    @Cloudbuster

    It's crummy low end behavior on the part of Tucker to make the entire successful part of his career out of someone else's ideas and let that person languish in obscurity. How is that not outrageously ungrateful?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross

    This sounds a bit like the Concerned individuals who showed up at /pol/ after the big win in 2016 and insisted that Trump wasn’t really “one of us” unless he publicly denounced Jews.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @J.Ross

    No fan of the pol nazis, but Trump isn't "one of us."

    Replies: @J.Ross

  219. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:

    “First is vigorous defense of total equality under the law. We are equal because we are citizens. Every American has precisely the same rights as every other American. Period.”…

    Ia this what the left is doing? Or is he just asking people to do this and include the left, while they beat whites down in the street? Or is he just another FOX news asshole telling their audience to fight for the rights of those who hate, attack them and want to suppress their every thought? He does realize that when things happen to white people nobody riots or even stands for them. I said this years ago, “the left needs a villain, they need an enemy, and white people are it, don’t be it.”.Thats why I didn’t support Trump, he helped make you all the enemy they needed for their agenda.
    Tucker Carlson can go to hell and when push comes to shove will he walk out like he did on Ron Paul and his supporters?
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/black-lives-matter-exposes-white-privilege-shock-video/

  220. Kyle says:
    @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss


    From whom? No, to be honest, I haven’t.
     
    Crazy Bernie Supporters. I'm subscribed to some of their Facebook support pages, and they are collectively livid over having the nomination "stolen from them... again."

    Perhaps refer to them as formerly the "feel the bern," to now the "let it bern" crowd. Many have pledged to either not vote, or rage vote for Trump.

    Again, Durham is planning to unload in September. Whether his many months of preparation, including a grand jury already locked and loaded, turns out to be a nuclear, or cluster bomb, it is highly likely it will have an deleterious effect that will sink Biden.

    Biden's significant lack of energy and focus, compared to just a few months ago, indicates he knows he’s a political "dead man walking." He knows he’s just marking time.

    Trump doesn’t have to "rally when the chips are down." It’s his election to win. All he has to do is let up the process play out. Too many analysts are thinking of Trump strategy in terms of chess. Try thinking in strategic terms of "Monopoly," and you might get a better handle on Trump's strategy.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Boethiuss

    I was at the dem convention in philly in 2016. I held up a giant sign that said let them eat cake, alluding to the dem establishment railroading Bernie for Hillary. I don’t think many people got it. There was a woman who took the stage in FDR park while the convention was going on across the street. Her speech was rambling but the conclusion was she would rather vote for trump than Hillary, and that got massive cheers from the assembled crowd. This was a crowd of liberals, the people who were shut of of the convention by the massive police barricades. Trump will win in a landslide, again. He doesn’t need to be sitting on his hands right now. He could roll the marines into downtown CHAZ and execute all the anarchist by firing squad and he’d win in an even bigger landslide.

    • Agree: GoRedWings!
  221. @Harry Baldwin
    @vhrm

    When I was young, liberals supported free speech because they were confident they could win any political argument on the facts. They've come to realize that their arguments are no longer persuasive, so speech repression works better for them.

    There are other reasons, too of course. When they're not in power, leftists are in favor of all sorts of freedoms they can use to destabilize authority; once they're in power, it's in their interest to restrict those freedoms.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Testing12

    The military industrial complex “conservatives” of the 90s and early 2000s had extremely weak arguments (democracy in the middle east will be amazing!) so it was easy for them to believe that. And the neocons in charge then were big advocates of censorship too (though not as successful) for the same reason.

  222. @Thomas
    @Boethiuss


    If there were any good draw-to-an-inside-straight type options, I think he’d be taking them, but the moment the problem goes beyond just the size of Biden’s lead against Trump: there’s no moves available to shake things up.
     
    The way 2020 has gone so far, there's a very good chance of further crises that could allow Trump to finally act Presidential, if the notion of doing so ever comes to him. If it doesn't though, he's probably toast.

    And frankly, based on past performance, he's unlikely to meaningfully take advantage of any opportunities that do come. He spent his first three years in office goofing off and frittering away the opportunities to build the credibility and authority he'd need in a crisis. Once the crises did come, he tried to duck responsibility where any halfway-competent political leader would've siezed the moment. I hate to say it, but the phrase "character is destiny" so beloved by the cucks has some validity.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @HammerJack

    Of course Trump’s not a master politician. He’s not a politician at all! He wouldn’t even be president except that the Dems were stupid enough to run Hillary Clinton against him.

    They’re slightly less stupid this time. True, Biden’s a train wreck whom they have to keep under lock and key, but he’s still better than Hillary and meanwhile Trump’s doing just about everything he can to lose.

    Not over ’til it’s over, though, and I expect we’ll have a surprise or two before November.

  223. @Anonymous
    @Hibernian


    Maybe he’s just overstating his case. The Soviets had to concentrate what engineering skills its engineers had on a few areas, mostly, although not entirely, military. The Nazis didn’t produce a Bomb mainly because they drove a lot of their best scientists into exile.
     
    Uhh... perhaps managing a war on three fronts, and enduring daily carpet bombings, while effectively utilizing the resources of a country the size of Idaho, might tend to overweight your Daytimer.

    Question: Does leaving out major significant facts from your analysis to support a silly conclusion make you a liar, or just stupid?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    It’s useless trying to reason with a Friend of Adolf.

  224. @Dave Pinsen
    We're luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve? Your friend Scott McConnell golfs at one of his clubs and mentioned chatting with Trump in the locker room once - maybe you need to relocate to DC for a bit and golf with him more.

    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you've both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1278188926025506816?s=20

    Replies: @Anon, @Boethiuss, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Alden

    I saw that yesterday. The American Conservative nerd was just going on and on about what the GOP would do for blacks if elected. Turned the TV off a few minutes into his talk. Carlson looked skeptical and scornful.

    • Replies: @For what it's worth
    @Alden

    "Nerd" is right. He just went on and on about how Republicans should specifically appeal to blacks, when Tucker's point was precisely to ignore race. He said as much at the end of listening the nerd.

    , @David In TN
    @Alden

    A few days ago Rush Limbaugh observed the GOP was terrified of saying something to upset blacks. Limbaugh said (with obvious sarcasm) "The Republicans are afraid of losing the black vote."

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Alden


    I saw that yesterday. The American Conservative nerd was just going on and on about what the GOP would do for blacks if elected. Turned the TV off a few minutes into his talk. Carlson looked skeptical and scornful.
     
    I saw that too. Aside from the fact that the "American Conservative" (yeah, right) dweeb was annoying - he came across like the little snot who played Darth Vader, but with a lisp - his whole line was warmed over Jack Kemp. He might as well have recommended that the GOP campaign in Belgium.
  225. HA says:
    @Anonymous
    4.3 mill? Big deal, Claira Janover got that many viewers in ~5 hrs; will have her own Disney/Funko princess figurine line by next month, at this rate

    Replies: @HA

    “Big deal, Claira Janover got that many viewers in ~5 hrs; will have her own Disney/Funko princess figurine line by next month, at this rate.”

    She’ll need the work. According to her, she was fired from her job at Deloitte a few hours ago.

    “The job that I’d worked really hard to get and meant a lot to me has called me and fired me because of everything.”… Janover’s LinkedIn account lists her as an “incoming government and public business service analyst” at Deloitte, a UK-based accounting firm…. Janover, who contended that the [“i’ma stab”] message was an analogy rather than a serious threat, has since deleted that video, but said that she’s since received a deluge of threats against her own life and safety…

    Through tears, a defiant Janover vowed not to back down. “I’m too strong for you. I’m too strong for any of you ‘All Lives Matter,’ racist Trump supporters,” she said…

    She also took a parting shot at Deloitte… “I’m sorry, Deloitte, that you can’t see that,” she said. “That you were cowardice [sic] enough to fight somebody who’s going to make an indelible change in the world and is going to have an impact.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @HA

    I worked for Deloitte. The company is very efficient, fast-paced, and they have little patience for personal indulgences or odd actors. You either have your shit together, or your out, so this ain’t surprising, except I’m surprised she’s surprised!

    As she clearly acts emotionally retarded, it’s extremely likely she was a diversity hire anyway.

    It’s extremely important for a diversity hire to understand their place in the pecking order of a high-end company. They make it easier for you to get in, but it’s just as hard to stay there as it is for a white person, if you’re a stupid asshole.

    Stupid asshole diversity hires belong in the government sector.

    , @Pierre de Craon
    @HA

    It has now come to light that she was never employed by Deloitte in the first place. Those among the well-heeled who share her passion for "justice" have used GoFundMe and similar moral-shakedown rackets to raise $10,000 or so to pay her expenses for the next several weeks.

    If only …

  226. @DrWatson
    @TelfoedJohn

    It would be an interesting thought experiment how this would play out in 2020 should Trump abandon running this year. Would the powers that be shut him (Tucker) up instantly? Would they find a grip on Tucker/Sailer? Maybe they are more useful in their current positions as voices of sanity.

    It is doubtful 2024 finds America still in one piece. There is hardly any common ground among its citizens. What would it be? Democracy is (almost) dead. No manufacturing jobs. Economic hardship. The banking sector & pharmaceuticals exclusively in the hands of the Deep State. Universities also. Health care is pofit oriented.

    What are the possible solutions?
    1. Americans must found their own (even if smaller in the beginning) banks.
    2. Manufacturing must be restarted. As the dollar will be inevitably depreciated, this is going to be an increasingly attractive possibility.
    3. Israel's role in American politics has to be re-evaluated and obviously downsized.
    4. The two-party system has to be broken. US congressmen and senators have to be held accountable and serve their own constituency, instead of a foreign power.
    5. Blacks and Whites have to be reconciled, making them realise that they are not enemies of each other.
    6. Universities and other elite institutions (those run on taxpayers' money) have to restore meritocracy. The best and worthiest must have the most prominent positions, not the most connected.
    7. Blacks have to be made to realise that it is not 'White supremacy' that holds them back. In fact, they are much better off than in most countries.
    8. The whole notion of 'White supremacy' must be retired. Everybody is a White supremacist at the bottom of their heart, including Blacks and Jews because they know Whites can innovate and build functioning societies like no other race. Therefore 'White supremacism' is a meaningless term, something like 'Earth roundism' because it is as self-evident as that.

    Replies: @For what it's worth, @DrWatson

    “realise”

    Where are you writing from? Here in ‘Murica, it’s “realize.”

    • Replies: @DrWatson
    @For what it's worth

    Good catch. But what do you say about the essence of my post?

  227. @TelfoedJohn
    Carlson/Sailer 2024

    Replies: @Gordo, @DrWatson, @uman

    I’d buy that for a dollar!!!

  228. That you were cowardice [sic] enough to fight somebody who’s going to make an indelible change in the world and is going to have an impact.”

    Sounds like she bought into the standard catchphrases with which they load up commencement speeches. You’re going to make an indelible change in this world! You’re going to have an impact!

  229. @Alden
    @Dave Pinsen

    I saw that yesterday. The American Conservative nerd was just going on and on about what the GOP would do for blacks if elected. Turned the TV off a few minutes into his talk. Carlson looked skeptical and scornful.

    Replies: @For what it's worth, @David In TN, @Mr. Anon

    “Nerd” is right. He just went on and on about how Republicans should specifically appeal to blacks, when Tucker’s point was precisely to ignore race. He said as much at the end of listening the nerd.

  230. One criticism I have of Tucker is that he can’t seem to settle on a single position on COVID-19. He was one of the first conservatives to take it seriously, and he hammered Seema Verma on ventilators just as hard as any CNN or MSNBC talking head would (though she ended up being vindicated on that one).

    Then Tucker adopted the Laura Ingraham line that COVID isn’t that bad. Yet he still has on that pompous wind-bag Dr. Marc Siegel, whose hot takes are all over the board. One day, he’s saying to open the economy. The next day, he’s saying you can catch COVID from your cat (that literally made it on the air).

  231. @anon
    If you like gallows humor:

    How to Quit without Being a Quitter (by Kevin Williamson)

    “I have important things to do, and very profitable businesses to run. I was never a politician. I never wanted to be a politician. I did this for the country. But I can only do so much. I had always planned to be a one-term president, but, of course, I couldn’t announce that, because it would have put me in a weak negotiating position and kept me from getting all these great deals done, which I have accomplished. The only reason I allowed my name to be put on the ballot a second time around was because no one on the Republican side stepped up, so there was only me. The Republicans just don’t know how to win. I know how to win. And I won the one I wanted to win, the one that counted. I can’t keep carrying these losers for another four years.”
     
    Randomize the capitalization and muck up the spelling, put it on Twitter, and that’s the story.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    If you like gallows humor:

    How to Quit without Being a Quitter (by Kevin Williamson)

    “I have important things to do, and very profitable businesses to run. I was never a politician. I never wanted to be a politician. I did this for the country. But I can only do so much. I had always planned to be a one-term president, but, of course, I couldn’t announce that, because it would have put me in a weak negotiating position and kept me from getting all these great deals done, which I have accomplished. The only reason I allowed my name to be put on the ballot a second time around was because no one on the Republican side stepped up, so there was only me. The Republicans just don’t know how to win. I know how to win. And I won the one I wanted to win, the one that counted. I can’t keep carrying these losers for another four years.”

    Randomize the capitalization and muck up the spelling, put it on Twitter, and that’s the story.

    God, it would make my year if that happened.

  232. @Alden
    @Dave Pinsen

    I saw that yesterday. The American Conservative nerd was just going on and on about what the GOP would do for blacks if elected. Turned the TV off a few minutes into his talk. Carlson looked skeptical and scornful.

    Replies: @For what it's worth, @David In TN, @Mr. Anon

    A few days ago Rush Limbaugh observed the GOP was terrified of saying something to upset blacks. Limbaugh said (with obvious sarcasm) “The Republicans are afraid of losing the black vote.”

  233. Anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @anon

    Is he here to make us look bad? Comparing us to the position of Jews in 1933 is just incredibly hyperbolic and stupid. There are many people who hate us and some healthy nationalism is good. But he never asks himself if we've done anything to put ourselves in this position. It's all just an endless victimhood parade reminiscent of SJWs.

    It's perfectly understandable for every single non-white man, woman, and child in America to hate Trump. Whiskey should stop trying to tie our cause as whites to that idiot.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    If nothing else, unlike with the Jews in 1933 there are plenty of places in Asia that would welcome white American emigrants. I’ve lived in Taiwan for five years and never experienced any anti-white animus. It’s not inconceivable that Whiskey himself might have to move to Asia if there’s a really bad economic crisis. I could imagine the result: after years of demanding that immigrants assimilate into the majority culture, he’d start crying about how Asian countries don’t value his FREEDOM to pollute the internet with his conspiracy theories. When I was in Taiwan, you occasionally heard about some white American man who thought he could make a fortune in an under-served market by translating conspiracy garbage into butchered Mandarin. His visa got revoked. They have this crazy idea that immigrants shouldn’t be allowed in unless they actually contribute something to their society. The same thing happened to American SJWs (usually Taiwanese-American and often female) who came subvert Taiwanese society, though it may be different now with the DPP in charge.

  234. @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous


    She represents the future of elites in America.
     
    If you mean her specifically, she was the only child of a single Jewish school-teacher mom, age 68, who died last year of cancer in her sophomore year. No mention of a dad, at all. That's a pretty rough start, and the Harvard degree will be her only asset, I daresay, for some time, as she tries to get a toehold in the elites.

    If you mean that the future of elites in America is Asians and part-Asians with elite degrees, who profess solidarity with blacks, I agree.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Twinkie, @fish, @International Jew

    She looks 100% Asian to me. So probably adopted. Not many 48-year-old women giving birth either.

  235. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    @anonymous

    This sounds a bit like the Concerned individuals who showed up at /pol/ after the big win in 2016 and insisted that Trump wasn't really "one of us" unless he publicly denounced Jews.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    No fan of the pol nazis, but Trump isn’t “one of us.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Oh, so you're just making up membership rules, got it.

  236. @nebulafox
    @Boethiuss

    I don't disagree with your ideas about Trump, but there's a massive problem with the idea that if you get rid of Trump, the GOP can easily win: the mainstream, "respectable" GOP and its radioactive zombie Reaganism is a huge part of why millions of Americans who thought Donald Trump was completely unqualified to be President in the spring of 2016 decided to take an unlikely gamble and support him anyway. Remember 2012 when they decided the most logical move in the worst economic crisis since the Depression would be to nominate a man whose claim to fame was banking? You can't separate that and the glee many viewers took at Jeb Bush's visible implosion after painstakingly being given every advantage possible by Conservatism Inc. four years later.

    Replacing Trump with some Romney-esque figure is not going to win the election, no matter how outrageous the Democrats get. At a time of spiking unemployment, the last thing voters want to hear is paeans to big business and stupid foreign interventions. A GOP candidate willing to raise the middle finger to the donor class and publicly questions why the party consistently favors the hyper-wealthy-many of whom don't even support them anymore-at the expense of ordinary Americans will get far more enthusiasm than Donald Trump ever received in 2016 *and* be able to subsequently tap into the brewing anti-leftist backlash. I mean, just look at Corporate America's tacit alliance with today's neo-Cultural Revolutionists. Economic Right and Cultural Left are deep friends. This isn't hard stuff.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    I don’t disagree with your ideas about Trump, but there’s a massive problem with the idea that if you get rid of Trump, the GOP can easily win: the mainstream, “respectable” GOP and its radioactive zombie Reaganism is a huge part of why millions of Americans who thought Donald Trump was completely unqualified to be President in the spring of 2016 decided to take an unlikely gamble and support him anyway. Remember 2012 when they decided the most logical move in the worst economic crisis since the Depression would be to nominate a man whose claim to fame was banking? You can’t separate that and the glee many viewers took at Jeb Bush’s visible implosion after painstakingly being given every advantage possible by Conservatism Inc. four years later.

    Yeah that’s right, and that train of thought was important in 2016. It’s not so important now. The only people who care about getting one over on !Jeb! or Marco Rubio are the bitter-enders here and elsewhere.

    Sometimes you gotta zig, and sometimes you gotta zag. Jeb and Rubio aren’t on the ballot this fall, we’d be way better off if they were. There’s still some antagonism and resistance to corporatist Chamber-of-Commerce style Republicanism, but whatever it is is a gnat compared to the nuclear bomb of radioactivity that is Trump.

    Replacing Trump with some Romney-esque figure is not going to win the election, no matter how outrageous the Democrats get. At a time of spiking unemployment, the last thing voters want to hear is paeans to big business and stupid foreign interventions. A GOP candidate willing to raise the middle finger to the donor class and publicly questions why the party consistently favors the hyper-wealthy-many of whom don’t even support them anymore-at the expense of ordinary Americans will get far more enthusiasm than Donald Trump ever received in 2016 *and* be able to subsequently tap into the brewing anti-leftist backlash. I mean, just look at Corporate America’s tacit alliance with today’s neo-Cultural Revolutionists. Economic Right and Cultural Left are deep friends. This isn’t hard stuff.

    This is plausible, but for now at least it’s all coulda woulda shoulda. The biggest unknown in American politics right now is what the post-Trump lay of the land will look like, specifically how much of it will be defined by reverberations about Trump personally versus how much be water under the bridge.

    We’re going to be in a post-Trump world soon enough anyway. Might as well find out sooner rather than later.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Boethiuss

    > Jeb and Rubio aren’t on the ballot this fall, we’d be way better off if they were.

    No, "we" wouldn't. They'd get crushed as badly as Trump. The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies or they'll go the way of the Whigs. Trump's a clown. Not disputing that at all. But replacing him with a GOP Establishment flunky is not going to suddenly give them a chance at reelection.

    (I could not care less about the fate of the Republican Party. They are just as complicit as the Democrats in America's rot over the last few decades.)

    >The biggest unknown in American politics right now is what the post-Trump lay of the land will look like, specifically how much of it will be defined by reverberations about Trump personally versus how much be water under the bridge.

    Populism is temporarily discredited because of Trump, but fails to go away, with any GOP insurgency easily winning the nomination by virtue of ticking off the donors. Democrats try to lean on demographic weight as best they can, but fail to reconcile the competing factions in their party and also fail to realize the extent that radicalization is brewing counter-radicalization. Our bipartisan neoliberal elites learn absolutely nothing from the whole Trump experience, overreach on their Russian/Mexican oligarch fantasies, and implode. What they want-for things to back to the way they were before 2016-is simply not tenable.

    Whether what replaces this is better or worse, I have no idea, but using identity politics as an ansatz for reform in an era of deep economic and structural rot scares me-and should scare anybody with a basic awareness of how ugly that's been before in history.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Reg Cæsar

  237. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @HA
    @Anonymous

    "Big deal, Claira Janover got that many viewers in ~5 hrs; will have her own Disney/Funko princess figurine line by next month, at this rate."

    She'll need the work. According to her, she was fired from her job at Deloitte a few hours ago.


    “The job that I’d worked really hard to get and meant a lot to me has called me and fired me because of everything.”... Janover’s LinkedIn account lists her as an “incoming government and public business service analyst” at Deloitte, a UK-based accounting firm.... Janover, who contended that the ["i'ma stab"] message was an analogy rather than a serious threat, has since deleted that video, but said that she’s since received a deluge of threats against her own life and safety...

    Through tears, a defiant Janover vowed not to back down. “I’m too strong for you. I’m too strong for any of you ‘All Lives Matter,’ racist Trump supporters,” she said...

    She also took a parting shot at Deloitte... “I’m sorry, Deloitte, that you can’t see that,” she said. “That you were cowardice [sic] enough to fight somebody who’s going to make an indelible change in the world and is going to have an impact.”
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Pierre de Craon

    I worked for Deloitte. The company is very efficient, fast-paced, and they have little patience for personal indulgences or odd actors. You either have your shit together, or your out, so this ain’t surprising, except I’m surprised she’s surprised!

    As she clearly acts emotionally retarded, it’s extremely likely she was a diversity hire anyway.

    It’s extremely important for a diversity hire to understand their place in the pecking order of a high-end company. They make it easier for you to get in, but it’s just as hard to stay there as it is for a white person, if you’re a stupid asshole.

    Stupid asshole diversity hires belong in the government sector.

  238. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks for shaping this pile of shit and releasing it on the world, Harvard!

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    Thanks for shaping this pile of shit and releasing it on the world, Harvard!
     
    I guess God wins every one time in forever. It's not as good as good as the Hillary people crying at the Javits Center on Election Day, but in these times I guess you take what you can get.
  239. @anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Don't be so gracious when Tucker lacks graciousness. It makes me think that he is some low class hustler who won't have staying power with this new turn.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @For what it's worth

    Is the goal to have Tucker invite Steve on his show only for the series to be cancelled during the following commercial break, if the interview even stays on the air that long? Is the goal to have Tucker become as much a persona non grata as Steve? Then Nikki Haley could take his spot with 300 minutes a week about bombing Iran and conquering Venezuela. Sheesh, such silliness.

  240. @Anonymous
    @Boethiuss


    From whom? No, to be honest, I haven’t.
     
    Crazy Bernie Supporters. I'm subscribed to some of their Facebook support pages, and they are collectively livid over having the nomination "stolen from them... again."

    Perhaps refer to them as formerly the "feel the bern," to now the "let it bern" crowd. Many have pledged to either not vote, or rage vote for Trump.

    Again, Durham is planning to unload in September. Whether his many months of preparation, including a grand jury already locked and loaded, turns out to be a nuclear, or cluster bomb, it is highly likely it will have an deleterious effect that will sink Biden.

    Biden's significant lack of energy and focus, compared to just a few months ago, indicates he knows he’s a political "dead man walking." He knows he’s just marking time.

    Trump doesn’t have to "rally when the chips are down." It’s his election to win. All he has to do is let up the process play out. Too many analysts are thinking of Trump strategy in terms of chess. Try thinking in strategic terms of "Monopoly," and you might get a better handle on Trump's strategy.

    Replies: @Kyle, @Boethiuss

    Crazy Bernie Supporters. I’m subscribed to some of their Facebook support pages, and they are collectively livid over having the nomination “stolen from them… again.”

    Perhaps refer to them as formerly the “feel the bern,” to now the “let it bern” crowd. Many have pledged to either not vote, or rage vote for Trump.

    Yeah, but no. The Bernie Bros are a lot mellower this cycle than 2016. First of all, Biden didn’t steal anything from Bernie, he won fair and square. So for the Bernie Bros, they are more embarrassed than angry at this development.

    Basically, I think a couple of the Chapos have publicly stated that they’re not voting for Joe this fall, and that’s about as far as it goes. Everybody else is on board, though most of them are disappointed nonetheless.

    • Disagree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Boethiuss

    More like they stole the nomination fair and square. Mayor “bootycall” Pete and Angry A.K. dropped out of the race at the right time to bump up Biden’s numbers. Warren bled out Bernie for as long as possible, depriving him of crucial support. Warren’s campaign was dead in the water, but she likely sabotaged Bernie on the secret promise of a cabinet post in a Biden Presidency.

    The Neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party was ready for Sanders this time around. They had three years to develop a plan to box him out in a more “legitimate” fashion than in 2016.

  241. @Anonymous
    Thanks for shaping this pile of shit and releasing it on the world, Harvard!

    https://youtu.be/Jxl0Ufv0i2Y

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    Thanks for shaping this pile of shit and releasing it on the world, Harvard!

    I guess God wins every one time in forever. It’s not as good as good as the Hillary people crying at the Javits Center on Election Day, but in these times I guess you take what you can get.

  242. @Anon
    @Twinkie

    Bro, you live in Kirkland?

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Twinkie

    I lived in greater Seattle for years, and spent time in the Bay, too. It’s still not impossible to find places that prize objective technical ability over connections or the gift of the gab, especially if you pick a nice industry. But it is getting harder, and not everybody has the chops to do something niche. If you are an American kid with an IQ of 140 and a CS PhD from Berkeley, you’ll be just fine. If you are an American kid with an IQ of 110 and a CS undergrad, then you are getting hit hard. And the problems for 40+ programmers just continue to pile up now that race has been added to age. Most Indian immigrants working in tech are (obviously) in their 20s, so it’s even easier for middle management to justify nepotism.

    If technical ability determined who dominated the tech industry, we’d all be speaking Russian right now. Hands-down the best programmers I’ve met were from the former USSR or were Israelis with a Russian background.

  243. anon[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @Muggles
    A few thoughts:

    - Yes, Tucker is the only thing I regularly watch on TV. Even when I disagree with him (he seems to think the Niskanen Institute is really libertarian, and not some pseudo Koch front). "News" from the MSM is now 90% Pravda style propaganda, though usually dumber.

    --CHAZ or CHOP is no more. So our Seattle Bolsheviks are no more. Only about 23 arrested in this early morning sweep. Talk about Potemkin Villages! Lots of empty tents left, soon to be dumpsterized. Big sale on all tent styles this weekend on Craigs List up there. Summer of Love is Over.

    --BLM has announced a "virtual national convention" in August where they will Tell Us what is up. Online of course. Will probably end up like the Iowa Dem Caucuses did. (Anyone remember that Woke event?). So register early for your slot. Google only has so many trillion terra flops available. Don't know if there will be a racial qualification for entry. Maybe. Everyone will have their say, not.

    --Immigration all vastly down. US troops slowly being withdrawn from NATO, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc. Stock market largely recovering and that will continue as lockdowns cease.

    The reality is, for both the NYT/CNN/WaPo axis of evil and the Fox resistance, most of the reported turmoil and drama is just a figment of your imagination. Burning stuff makes good pictures. Stupid angry people breaking windows is drama for fools. Antifa is LARPing for losers. So relax Boomers, and everyone else. This will quickly seem like an extended Silly Season. "Face Masks are So 2020!"

    Replies: @anon

    –CHAZ or CHOP is no more.

    Suspect Antifa pulled their people out sometime in the last 5 – 7 days because Bad Orange Man didn’t take the bait. What was left behind? Street people, joggers, randomoids. All expendable as far as Antifa is concerned.

    Bet Rapper Warlord was gone before this AM. Ditto the guys with the radios.

    We all remember how SPAZ was gonna be cop-free so all peace, and in the last five days 3 people got shot with one dead, right?

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    @anon

    From preliminary reports, the last Black teen killed in CHAZ was on a joyride in a stolen car with his friend. Looking to get away, he headed for CHAZ but ended up crashing into a barrier. In the ensuing confusion, Antifa/CHAZ “security” put over 130 rounds into the stolen car, killing the one Black teen and seriously wounding the other. They then confiscated evidence before the police arrived.

    This should be a national news story right now, but of course the propaganda machine has already memory holed it. I think it deserves an iSteve thread.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  244. @Boethiuss
    @nebulafox


    I don’t disagree with your ideas about Trump, but there’s a massive problem with the idea that if you get rid of Trump, the GOP can easily win: the mainstream, “respectable” GOP and its radioactive zombie Reaganism is a huge part of why millions of Americans who thought Donald Trump was completely unqualified to be President in the spring of 2016 decided to take an unlikely gamble and support him anyway. Remember 2012 when they decided the most logical move in the worst economic crisis since the Depression would be to nominate a man whose claim to fame was banking? You can’t separate that and the glee many viewers took at Jeb Bush’s visible implosion after painstakingly being given every advantage possible by Conservatism Inc. four years later.
     
    Yeah that's right, and that train of thought was important in 2016. It's not so important now. The only people who care about getting one over on !Jeb! or Marco Rubio are the bitter-enders here and elsewhere.

    Sometimes you gotta zig, and sometimes you gotta zag. Jeb and Rubio aren't on the ballot this fall, we'd be way better off if they were. There's still some antagonism and resistance to corporatist Chamber-of-Commerce style Republicanism, but whatever it is is a gnat compared to the nuclear bomb of radioactivity that is Trump.

    Replacing Trump with some Romney-esque figure is not going to win the election, no matter how outrageous the Democrats get. At a time of spiking unemployment, the last thing voters want to hear is paeans to big business and stupid foreign interventions. A GOP candidate willing to raise the middle finger to the donor class and publicly questions why the party consistently favors the hyper-wealthy-many of whom don’t even support them anymore-at the expense of ordinary Americans will get far more enthusiasm than Donald Trump ever received in 2016 *and* be able to subsequently tap into the brewing anti-leftist backlash. I mean, just look at Corporate America’s tacit alliance with today’s neo-Cultural Revolutionists. Economic Right and Cultural Left are deep friends. This isn’t hard stuff.
     
    This is plausible, but for now at least it's all coulda woulda shoulda. The biggest unknown in American politics right now is what the post-Trump lay of the land will look like, specifically how much of it will be defined by reverberations about Trump personally versus how much be water under the bridge.

    We're going to be in a post-Trump world soon enough anyway. Might as well find out sooner rather than later.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    > Jeb and Rubio aren’t on the ballot this fall, we’d be way better off if they were.

    No, “we” wouldn’t. They’d get crushed as badly as Trump. The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies or they’ll go the way of the Whigs. Trump’s a clown. Not disputing that at all. But replacing him with a GOP Establishment flunky is not going to suddenly give them a chance at reelection.

    (I could not care less about the fate of the Republican Party. They are just as complicit as the Democrats in America’s rot over the last few decades.)

    >The biggest unknown in American politics right now is what the post-Trump lay of the land will look like, specifically how much of it will be defined by reverberations about Trump personally versus how much be water under the bridge.

    Populism is temporarily discredited because of Trump, but fails to go away, with any GOP insurgency easily winning the nomination by virtue of ticking off the donors. Democrats try to lean on demographic weight as best they can, but fail to reconcile the competing factions in their party and also fail to realize the extent that radicalization is brewing counter-radicalization. Our bipartisan neoliberal elites learn absolutely nothing from the whole Trump experience, overreach on their Russian/Mexican oligarch fantasies, and implode. What they want-for things to back to the way they were before 2016-is simply not tenable.

    Whether what replaces this is better or worse, I have no idea, but using identity politics as an ansatz for reform in an era of deep economic and structural rot scares me-and should scare anybody with a basic awareness of how ugly that’s been before in history.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @nebulafox


    No, “we” wouldn’t. They’d get crushed as badly as Trump. The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies or they’ll go the way of the Whigs. Trump’s a clown. Not disputing that at all. But replacing him with a GOP Establishment flunky is not going to suddenly give them a chance at reelection.
     
    Oh yes, we would. It's especially important to note this goes way beyond the polls, candidates and other machinations for political office, and has important ramifications for our otherwise apolitical lives. Once Trump is gone, normie Americans will start saying and believing things like,

    "Just because one bad cop killed George Floyd, doesn't mean we're supposed get rid of the whole police force."

    "Non-binary trans? You've got to be kidding me. She's just going through a phase because the boys like the other girls better."

    "What the hell does Apple have to do with Black Lives Matter? They should worry about politics less and figure out how to make a laptop where the battery doesn't crap out in months,"

    etc, etc. And beyond that, they will start to meet other people who agree with them and organize for this or that. And right now, this isn't happening, because Trump.

    Some of this is because people are afraid of getting cancelled, but if I had to guess I'd say mostly not. Normie white America is genuinely repulsed by Trump and doesn't want to say or believe anything that associates themselves with him. And at the present moment they are basically holding their breath waiting for someone or something to get rid of Trump. And at that point they will exhale and reassess.

    The problem is that if we wait for Joe Biden to do the honors, it's very possible to believe that we're going to lose the Presidency, the Senate, a couple SCOTUS seats, legislatures, etc, etc. Plus the length of time where most of us will simply have internalized that BLM protests, cancelling, tech oligopoly incompetence and shit customer service, etc, is just the way things are and we'll lose whatever initiative we might have to improve things for the better.

    The point being, this problem is unique (for now) to Trump. Jeb, or Mitt Romney, or Paul Ryan (or some other bete noire) don't have this problem. The problem for them is that too many people oppose their worldview, won't support them, and will support someone else instead. Trump has that problem too, but also the problem that people who might agree with him are too ashamed to be associated with him.

    Populism is temporarily discredited because of Trump, but fails to go away, with any GOP insurgency easily winning the nomination by virtue of ticking off the donors. Democrats try to lean on demographic weight as best they can, but fail to reconcile the competing factions in their party and also fail to realize the extent that radicalization is brewing counter-radicalization. Our bipartisan neoliberal elites learn absolutely nothing from the whole Trump experience, overreach on their Russian/Mexican oligarch fantasies, and implode. What they want-for things to back to the way they were before 2016-is simply not tenable.
     
    Yeah, probably, if I had to guess. People are going to wait till Trump is gone and then reassess. The fallout from that reassessment is substantially unpredictable. Unfortunately, the endpoint of our current course of events in the Trump trench warfare world is entirely predictable.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @nebulafox


    The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies...
     
    Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called "American". Now it's "rancid".

    or they’ll go the way of the Whigs.
     
    And you'll get the confiscatory taxes and socialism you pine for. Diversity is the quickest route there, so why would you oppose it?

    A "rancid free-market" approach to immigration would force immigrants to pay their own way or go home. Basically, 1880 again. That's my kind of populism.

    But you're "from the government and here to help me... "

    Replies: @botazefa, @nebulafox

  245. @Anonymous Jew
    @Twinkie

    Most Hapas (or Wasians as I prefer) go “full White”. Then again, I live in Seattle so really no improvement or detriment compared to regular Whites. Most are good looking too, but of course not universally so. Because of the self-selecting nature of White-Asian pairings it seems like most are also smarter than average, but you’d need data to confirm.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Because of the self-selecting nature of White-Asian pairings it seems like most are also smarter than average, but you’d need data to confirm.

    Judging from the income data, you are right, because AMWF couples have the highest median income and WMAFs are not too behind (AMWF, AMAF, and WMAF are the top three categories, I believe).

  246. @Anon
    @Twinkie

    Bro, you live in Kirkland?

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Twinkie

    No.

  247. @botazefa
    @Dave Pinsen


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.
     
    How do you reckon Trump is gonna do that? No police chiefs report to him.

    This is a huge problem in the US. People don't understand how our government works. The Presidency is weak, intentionally so, particularly domestically.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    The federal government has its own law enforcement agencies – perhaps you’ve heard of some of them? – the FBI, the ATF, etc. What are the odds that the rioters have scrupulously avoided violating federal laws? Pretty slim.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @Dave Pinsen


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.
     

    The federal government has its own law enforcement agencies – perhaps you’ve heard of some of them? – the FBI, the ATF, etc.
     
    There are many thousands of rioters in all major cities. How how many FBI/ATF are in each city? Not many. How much federal jail space is in each city? Maybe none and what exists is temporary holding space.

    How does Trump lock up anyone en masse? He can't. If democratic mayors want rioting in their cities then... that *is* what they want, or at least condone.

    States rights, or to the people, yadda yadda and so forth.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

  248. @nebulafox
    @Boethiuss

    > Jeb and Rubio aren’t on the ballot this fall, we’d be way better off if they were.

    No, "we" wouldn't. They'd get crushed as badly as Trump. The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies or they'll go the way of the Whigs. Trump's a clown. Not disputing that at all. But replacing him with a GOP Establishment flunky is not going to suddenly give them a chance at reelection.

    (I could not care less about the fate of the Republican Party. They are just as complicit as the Democrats in America's rot over the last few decades.)

    >The biggest unknown in American politics right now is what the post-Trump lay of the land will look like, specifically how much of it will be defined by reverberations about Trump personally versus how much be water under the bridge.

    Populism is temporarily discredited because of Trump, but fails to go away, with any GOP insurgency easily winning the nomination by virtue of ticking off the donors. Democrats try to lean on demographic weight as best they can, but fail to reconcile the competing factions in their party and also fail to realize the extent that radicalization is brewing counter-radicalization. Our bipartisan neoliberal elites learn absolutely nothing from the whole Trump experience, overreach on their Russian/Mexican oligarch fantasies, and implode. What they want-for things to back to the way they were before 2016-is simply not tenable.

    Whether what replaces this is better or worse, I have no idea, but using identity politics as an ansatz for reform in an era of deep economic and structural rot scares me-and should scare anybody with a basic awareness of how ugly that's been before in history.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Reg Cæsar

    No, “we” wouldn’t. They’d get crushed as badly as Trump. The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies or they’ll go the way of the Whigs. Trump’s a clown. Not disputing that at all. But replacing him with a GOP Establishment flunky is not going to suddenly give them a chance at reelection.

    Oh yes, we would. It’s especially important to note this goes way beyond the polls, candidates and other machinations for political office, and has important ramifications for our otherwise apolitical lives. Once Trump is gone, normie Americans will start saying and believing things like,

    “Just because one bad cop killed George Floyd, doesn’t mean we’re supposed get rid of the whole police force.”

    “Non-binary trans? You’ve got to be kidding me. She’s just going through a phase because the boys like the other girls better.”

    “What the hell does Apple have to do with Black Lives Matter? They should worry about politics less and figure out how to make a laptop where the battery doesn’t crap out in months,”

    etc, etc. And beyond that, they will start to meet other people who agree with them and organize for this or that. And right now, this isn’t happening, because Trump.

    Some of this is because people are afraid of getting cancelled, but if I had to guess I’d say mostly not. Normie white America is genuinely repulsed by Trump and doesn’t want to say or believe anything that associates themselves with him. And at the present moment they are basically holding their breath waiting for someone or something to get rid of Trump. And at that point they will exhale and reassess.

    The problem is that if we wait for Joe Biden to do the honors, it’s very possible to believe that we’re going to lose the Presidency, the Senate, a couple SCOTUS seats, legislatures, etc, etc. Plus the length of time where most of us will simply have internalized that BLM protests, cancelling, tech oligopoly incompetence and shit customer service, etc, is just the way things are and we’ll lose whatever initiative we might have to improve things for the better.

    The point being, this problem is unique (for now) to Trump. Jeb, or Mitt Romney, or Paul Ryan (or some other bete noire) don’t have this problem. The problem for them is that too many people oppose their worldview, won’t support them, and will support someone else instead. Trump has that problem too, but also the problem that people who might agree with him are too ashamed to be associated with him.

    Populism is temporarily discredited because of Trump, but fails to go away, with any GOP insurgency easily winning the nomination by virtue of ticking off the donors. Democrats try to lean on demographic weight as best they can, but fail to reconcile the competing factions in their party and also fail to realize the extent that radicalization is brewing counter-radicalization. Our bipartisan neoliberal elites learn absolutely nothing from the whole Trump experience, overreach on their Russian/Mexican oligarch fantasies, and implode. What they want-for things to back to the way they were before 2016-is simply not tenable.

    Yeah, probably, if I had to guess. People are going to wait till Trump is gone and then reassess. The fallout from that reassessment is substantially unpredictable. Unfortunately, the endpoint of our current course of events in the Trump trench warfare world is entirely predictable.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Boethiuss

    You know, I gave your comment some thought, and I'll eat crow: I think you are right. I still stand by what I say about Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney not winning elections, but that's not what you are arguing. A lot of people out there might not buy the media's arguments about Trump being a crypto-fascist, but are still deeply embarrassed by the man's self-parodying joke Presidency. And are angry with it for its failures at a time of national crisis.

    Even Carlson's comparing supporting Trump to rooting for the old Cubs. LBJ never actually made his famous Cronkie quote, but you can say something similar here.

    (The funny thing is, unlike many iSteve commentators, "Normie White America" is not really where I come from. Part of this is age: most commentators here remember a time where Normie White America was the default in a way that I don't. But I also had the weird experience as a kid of living next to the bottom, outside of, and the top of the American soicoeconomic scale, without truly being a part of any of it. Never really the medium mainstream. The closest might be some of my extended family, and they were distant figures that I maybe saw 1 or 2 times growing up.)

    Replies: @Boethiuss

  249. @EmailAsID
    @Boethiuss


    But we’re not in Dunkirk mode, and the reason is obvious.
     
    Can you please point out the obvious? I'm stupid this morning.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    Can you please point out the obvious? I’m stupid this morning.

    Yeah, we’re not in Dunkirk mode because most of us in the populist Right are still invested in Trump and his bullshit.

    “We need to get Steve and Tucker Carlson in front of Trump.”

    “Joe Biden is old and stupid and will flop in the debates.”

    “Trump should arrest antifa terrorists in Seattle”

    Etc. Any of these may or may not be true or good ideas on their own terms. None of them matter.

  250. @Kyle
    I can’t tell if Mr. Carlson is an avid isteve reader. Or If your talking points are just general right wing talking points that everyone in aggregate is already talking about on Twitter. I thought I had a smoking gun a couple of years ago that would have outed Mr. Carlson as a dyed in the wool isteve reader. Perhaps even a regular commenter. He really does seem to broadcast much of what you have to say. Which is a good thing. I should search my own comment history because I really did have a smoking gun a couple of years ago. But that’s probably irrelevant in the current year.

    Replies: @Gordo

    I should search my own comment history because I really did have a smoking gun a couple of years ago. But that’s probably irrelevant in the current year.

    Why do that? Best to keep quiet.

  251. @For what it's worth
    @DrWatson

    "realise"

    Where are you writing from? Here in 'Murica, it's "realize."

    Replies: @DrWatson

    Good catch. But what do you say about the essence of my post?

  252. @DrWatson
    @TelfoedJohn

    It would be an interesting thought experiment how this would play out in 2020 should Trump abandon running this year. Would the powers that be shut him (Tucker) up instantly? Would they find a grip on Tucker/Sailer? Maybe they are more useful in their current positions as voices of sanity.

    It is doubtful 2024 finds America still in one piece. There is hardly any common ground among its citizens. What would it be? Democracy is (almost) dead. No manufacturing jobs. Economic hardship. The banking sector & pharmaceuticals exclusively in the hands of the Deep State. Universities also. Health care is pofit oriented.

    What are the possible solutions?
    1. Americans must found their own (even if smaller in the beginning) banks.
    2. Manufacturing must be restarted. As the dollar will be inevitably depreciated, this is going to be an increasingly attractive possibility.
    3. Israel's role in American politics has to be re-evaluated and obviously downsized.
    4. The two-party system has to be broken. US congressmen and senators have to be held accountable and serve their own constituency, instead of a foreign power.
    5. Blacks and Whites have to be reconciled, making them realise that they are not enemies of each other.
    6. Universities and other elite institutions (those run on taxpayers' money) have to restore meritocracy. The best and worthiest must have the most prominent positions, not the most connected.
    7. Blacks have to be made to realise that it is not 'White supremacy' that holds them back. In fact, they are much better off than in most countries.
    8. The whole notion of 'White supremacy' must be retired. Everybody is a White supremacist at the bottom of their heart, including Blacks and Jews because they know Whites can innovate and build functioning societies like no other race. Therefore 'White supremacism' is a meaningless term, something like 'Earth roundism' because it is as self-evident as that.

    Replies: @For what it's worth, @DrWatson

    How to start a bank:

    What are the costs involved in opening a bank?
    The costs are significant, since the banking industry is the most regulated industry in the country. Banks generally need between $12 to $20 million in starting capital. If you start a local community bank, you might be able to raise that money locally. Otherwise, you may have to solicit investors.

    Once the capital is raised, you must apply to regulatory agencies. Regulators are strict in their review of applications since the financial crisis. Once you’re approved, you may open up your bank. https://howtostartanllc.com/business-ideas/bank#start

    How many non-chosenites do you need to pull resources together to found a real American bank?

  253. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    @Jack D

    I think Phoebe Cates is 1/4 Filipino and 1/4 Russian Jew. That's exotic.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I think Phoebe Cates is 1/4 Filipino and 1/4 Russian Jew. That’s exotic.

    She was wary about signing up for that Blue Lagoon knockoff. But her father, with whom she grew up after her parents split, her own father, burst out with “What?! You’re being offered the lead rôle in a feature film, and you’re worried about a little nudity?”

    Happy belated Fathers Day, Mr Cates.

  254. @Colin Wright
    @Reg Cæsar

    'I just saw a bumper reading “Make America Native Again”.'

    I'm tempted to go with 'Make America White Again.'

    We're coming to that, that's for sure.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Reg Cæsar

    Correction: it was “Keep America Native”. There were also Sioux (or whatever) talisman stickers on the car.

  255. @nebulafox
    @Boethiuss

    > Jeb and Rubio aren’t on the ballot this fall, we’d be way better off if they were.

    No, "we" wouldn't. They'd get crushed as badly as Trump. The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies or they'll go the way of the Whigs. Trump's a clown. Not disputing that at all. But replacing him with a GOP Establishment flunky is not going to suddenly give them a chance at reelection.

    (I could not care less about the fate of the Republican Party. They are just as complicit as the Democrats in America's rot over the last few decades.)

    >The biggest unknown in American politics right now is what the post-Trump lay of the land will look like, specifically how much of it will be defined by reverberations about Trump personally versus how much be water under the bridge.

    Populism is temporarily discredited because of Trump, but fails to go away, with any GOP insurgency easily winning the nomination by virtue of ticking off the donors. Democrats try to lean on demographic weight as best they can, but fail to reconcile the competing factions in their party and also fail to realize the extent that radicalization is brewing counter-radicalization. Our bipartisan neoliberal elites learn absolutely nothing from the whole Trump experience, overreach on their Russian/Mexican oligarch fantasies, and implode. What they want-for things to back to the way they were before 2016-is simply not tenable.

    Whether what replaces this is better or worse, I have no idea, but using identity politics as an ansatz for reform in an era of deep economic and structural rot scares me-and should scare anybody with a basic awareness of how ugly that's been before in history.

    Replies: @Boethiuss, @Reg Cæsar

    The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies…

    Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called “American”. Now it’s “rancid”.

    or they’ll go the way of the Whigs.

    And you’ll get the confiscatory taxes and socialism you pine for. Diversity is the quickest route there, so why would you oppose it?

    A “rancid free-market” approach to immigration would force immigrants to pay their own way or go home. Basically, 1880 again. That’s my kind of populism.

    But you’re “from the government and here to help me… “

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @Reg Cæsar


    Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called “American”. Now it’s “rancid”
     
    Since Citizens United, rancid seems apropos.

    I don't think anyone wants immortal corporations influencing our elections and our citizenry with their deep pockets and old boys' club industry groups that shield monopolistic activities. They have no morality. They don't care about any greater good. They just want customers and profits.

    The Roberts court is trash. Media is the mouthpiece of whoever has cash. Health care is profit motivated. Education is riddled with the pseudoscience of DIE, politicians are anti-patriotic, the military can't win a war, and our banking system is the envy of organized crime.


    It's a damn shame, Reg, because we're also overrun with retarded immigrants, soulless sycophants, psychopathic grifters, and tribal parasites. Those of us with an IQ higher than a melon are watching the titanic go down, our Unz commentary amounting to shuffling deck chairs.
    , @nebulafox
    @Reg Cæsar

    >Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called “American”. Now it’s “rancid”.

    This isn't the 1980s: forget what Saint Ronnie said. Corporate America is not your friend. It is definitely not right-wing populism's friend. And why should they be? Materially and ideologically, post-national woke neoliberalism is way better for them. Just look at who is sponsoring this woke nonsense.

    >And you’ll get the confiscatory taxes and socialism you pine for. Diversity is the quickest route there, so why would you oppose it?

    Why not? We already have socialism for CEOs while enforcing unbridled market mechanisms for the masses. You seem to be under the illusion that throwing out government power and regulations is going to somehow reverse that. That's not how it is gonna play out in a politically connected oligarch dominated rentier economy, which is what the United States of 2020 is. Take away the last vestiges of restraints on market mechanisms, and it'll be the people already in charge who profit, not your small business owner from the down the road. State power is the only realistic counterweight. The public and private sectors are two drooling zombies currently cooperating with each other in their pillaging of the American masses. They should be goaded into fighting each other instead: and both weakened enough so they can be harnessed according to societal interests.

    Screw the free market. It's a tool, nothing more, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Nowadays, it is definitely the latter. It's time to prioritize what would be best for the United States. The market should be subordinate to national interests and societal welfare, not the other way around.

    >A “rancid free-market” approach to immigration would force immigrants to pay their own way or go home. Basically, 1880 again. That’s my kind of populism.

    No, a free market approach to immigration means an asymptotic approach to open borders. Pre-Trump Republicans made that quite clear. And Trump's gone out of his way in power to signal that he's not against the traditional pro-business approach to mass immigration. Who do you think is going to prevent corporations from sponsoring mass cheap labor imports?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  256. @Anonymous
    @Dave Pinsen


    One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump, neither of you has flipped out on Trump like Ann Coulter has. Now Trump tunes her out. Hopefully, he still listens to Tucker (he tweeted at him about a week ago). But it would be nice to get you in there too.
     
    This is the kind of stuff you expect to hear in dictatorships. There, it makes sense to only give "constructive criticism" to the dictator because you have no alternative. But we could have had an alternative. If Tucker Carlson and Steve Sailer and all the rest of the national conservative Right had condemned him, we could have had a candidate with 20% of the vote in Iowa. He would have been forced to listen. But this didn't happen because of the spinelessness of the Right.

    After this is all over, after Trump's gone, we're going to remember who was brave enough to tell the truth, and who wasn't.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    After this is all over, after Trump’s gone, we’re going to remember who was brave enough to tell the truth, and who wasn’t.

    And it’ll be the brave Anonymous[276] huh?

  257. @Anonymous
    Steve Turley done say:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/2jGZfcfogDw/

    Tucker Carlson CRUSHES CNN with HIGHEST RATED Program in Cable News HISTORY!!!

    But Tucker will likely push for war with China. In the end, just another fool.

    From Maddow's Russia, Russia, Russia, to Tucky-wuck's China, China, China.

    And no mention of Jewish Power.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    But Tucker will likely push for war with China.

    Wrong, Tonto. Tucker is against foreign adventurism. Read his book where, among other things, Tucker slams John Bolton for the war monger he is.

  258. @Dave Pinsen
    @botazefa

    The federal government has its own law enforcement agencies - perhaps you've heard of some of them? - the FBI, the ATF, etc. What are the odds that the rioters have scrupulously avoided violating federal laws? Pretty slim.

    Replies: @botazefa

    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    The federal government has its own law enforcement agencies – perhaps you’ve heard of some of them? – the FBI, the ATF, etc.

    There are many thousands of rioters in all major cities. How how many FBI/ATF are in each city? Not many. How much federal jail space is in each city? Maybe none and what exists is temporary holding space.

    How does Trump lock up anyone en masse? He can’t. If democratic mayors want rioting in their cities then… that *is* what they want, or at least condone.

    States rights, or to the people, yadda yadda and so forth.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @botazefa

    Watch Thursday night's Tucker Carlson Tonight. He interviewed a US Attorney in the first segment who said the feds have charged 150 rioters so far, and assisted local authorities with arresting hundreds more.

    They probably need to do 10x more, but it's a start.

    Replies: @botazefa

  259. znon says:
    @ATBOTL
    A lot of online boomer aged conservative commenters don't like Tucker. They don't like that he cares about policy and criticizes Trump for selling out. They want him to just be a mindless GOP cheerleader like Hannity.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @znon

    It should be kept in mind after the last few months that the coalition of the core can’t afford to conduct purges amongst its ranks before significant victories. Read: Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell to imagine reaping the results of that.

    for the illiterate, See 1:11/3:32 and 2:05 / 3:32 Remember: we need every swinging dick we can get.

  260. @Reg Cæsar
    @nebulafox


    The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies...
     
    Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called "American". Now it's "rancid".

    or they’ll go the way of the Whigs.
     
    And you'll get the confiscatory taxes and socialism you pine for. Diversity is the quickest route there, so why would you oppose it?

    A "rancid free-market" approach to immigration would force immigrants to pay their own way or go home. Basically, 1880 again. That's my kind of populism.

    But you're "from the government and here to help me... "

    Replies: @botazefa, @nebulafox

    Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called “American”. Now it’s “rancid”

    Since Citizens United, rancid seems apropos.

    I don’t think anyone wants immortal corporations influencing our elections and our citizenry with their deep pockets and old boys’ club industry groups that shield monopolistic activities. They have no morality. They don’t care about any greater good. They just want customers and profits.

    The Roberts court is trash. Media is the mouthpiece of whoever has cash. Health care is profit motivated. Education is riddled with the pseudoscience of DIE, politicians are anti-patriotic, the military can’t win a war, and our banking system is the envy of organized crime.

    It’s a damn shame, Reg, because we’re also overrun with retarded immigrants, soulless sycophants, psychopathic grifters, and tribal parasites. Those of us with an IQ higher than a melon are watching the titanic go down, our Unz commentary amounting to shuffling deck chairs.

  261. @Boethiuss
    @The Alarmist


    You do realise that Dunkirk was about losing and running away, right? It was about the perfidious Brits dragging their erstwhile allies, the French, into unnecessary war with the Germans and then running for the exits when the war quickly went against them.
     
    That's right. Dunkirk was an evacuation, and you don't win wars by evacuating. Still it was absolutely necessary, and a substantial victory of sorts, at the time.

    A successful evacuation now seems less likely but would a momentous godsend if by some miracle we could pull it off. But even if we do, we're in for a tough road ahead, and that's the best case. If things go pear-shaped, some of the foundations of our society could collapse and a lot of us could die or experience severe privation.

    But let's say that doesn't happen. We're going to need all the resources we can muster to defeat the Left, its deconstructionist ideology and the organizational power associated with it. As things stand, a lot of our resources are tied up with Trump and his bullshit. Even with all our resources it's going to be a slog, but for sure nothing good is going to happen until we're free of Trump.

    So, to where do you propose we run?
     

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    We’re going to need all the resources we can muster to defeat the Left, its deconstructionist ideology and the organizational power associated with it.

    The Left controls most of the open space, most of the high ground, and all of the lines of communication. The Right, whatever that may be these days, will have to melt into the farms, forests and swamps and start a guerilla campaign to bring them down. A good start would be cessation of food shipments to the major media and political centres. This thing about truckers not delivering to cities that defund or stand police down, for example, could be a catalyst for this.

  262. @Anonymous
    @J.Ross

    No fan of the pol nazis, but Trump isn't "one of us."

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Oh, so you’re just making up membership rules, got it.

  263. vhrm says:
    @Erik Blair
    @Jack D


    ...Or they can look somewhat exotic but you can’t quite put your finger on what they are (unless you know a lot of hapas and then you can usually figure it out). And Asians and whites are both quite often good looking ...

    And since black females are less attractive to begin with, at best you get someone who is half way to being attractive instead of being super good looking.
     
    Yep. Think of Tia Carrare (Cassandra) in Wayne’s World, with her as the fantasy woman and it’s the most believable. Yet if a black or mixed race black woman played that role it would be 100% total cringe.

    Replies: @vhrm

    Yep. Think of Tia Carrare (Cassandra) in Wayne’s World, with her as the fantasy woman and it’s the most believable. Yet if a black or mixed race black woman played that role it would be 100% total cringe.

    Heh. Ironically she played a half Japanese half black character in Rising Sun, iirc. Her hair style and makeup foundation color pushes the line on half-blackface.

  264. @Daniel Williams
    @Boethiuss


    Normie America has an inclination to tune out Trump
     
    “Normie” America has been fascinated—borderline obsessed!—with Donald Trump for thirty or forty years. We’ve made him a TV star, a pundit, a celebrity, and President of the United States. It’s hard to imagine a person who has been less tuned out.

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    “Normie” America has been fascinated—borderline obsessed!—with Donald Trump for thirty or forty years. We’ve made him a TV star, a pundit, a celebrity, and President of the United States. It’s hard to imagine a person who has been less tuned out.

    Yeah, but no.

    It’s one thing to be entertained by Trump as the host of a business reality show. It’s quite another to watch as the world economy implodes due to the virus crisis, and listen to Trump accuse Joe Scarborough of foul play in a woman’s death, or complain about the media poking fun at him when he can’t walk down a ramp after a speech.

    People are looking for answers, and Trump is spouting out derp.

    No 0ne’s paying attention any more.

  265. @Ozymandias
    @Mr. Anon


    And certainly, the whole Russia-Collusion / Ukraine / Impeachment fracas was a ridiculous and diversion, cooked up by the Democrats
     
    It was Collusion / Obstruction / Ukraine / Pandemic.

    C/O/U/P for short.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    It was Collusion / Obstruction / Ukraine / Pandemic.

    C/O/U/P for short.

    That’s good.

  266. @ATBOTL
    @Mr. Anon

    That's the kind of stuff that Tucker was criticizing in this segment. Types like Hannity like to focus on trivial details as a way of avoiding talking about the larger issues that are confronting conservatives. They can fill up a whole show or a whole month going into the minutiae of Peter Strzok's text messages so they don't have any time left to notice Trump selling out or white people being attacked in the street. Hannity has always been awful. He has always tried to steer his listeners away from nationalism and towards neocon neoliberalism. Never forget that Hannity did a complete sell out on amnesty for illegals after Romney lost and then did his best to soft sell the Gang The Eight Amnesty to his skeptical listeners.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I agree. Hannity is a neocon tool, in addition to being a meathead. And while, yes, the whole Russia/Ukraine/Collusion hoax was utter BS, from the dossier, through Strzok/Paige and up through the impeachment, in the end it doesn’t much matter. Trump squandered the opportunity he was given, and none of us should forgive him for that.

  267. @Alden
    @Dave Pinsen

    I saw that yesterday. The American Conservative nerd was just going on and on about what the GOP would do for blacks if elected. Turned the TV off a few minutes into his talk. Carlson looked skeptical and scornful.

    Replies: @For what it's worth, @David In TN, @Mr. Anon

    I saw that yesterday. The American Conservative nerd was just going on and on about what the GOP would do for blacks if elected. Turned the TV off a few minutes into his talk. Carlson looked skeptical and scornful.

    I saw that too. Aside from the fact that the “American Conservative” (yeah, right) dweeb was annoying – he came across like the little snot who played Darth Vader, but with a lisp – his whole line was warmed over Jack Kemp. He might as well have recommended that the GOP campaign in Belgium.

  268. znon says:
    @Gordo
    @Steve Sailer


    It’s way too important for the fate of the nation too indulge in petty squabbles over credit.
     
    Well and decently said Steve, but its not just your nation, passports are irrelevant now.

    Our Race Is Our Nation.

    Replies: @znon

    It should be kept in mind after the last few months that the coalition of the core can’t afford to conduct purges amongst its ranks before significant victories. Read: Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell to imagine reaping the results of that.

    for the illiterate, See 1:11/3:32 and 2:05 / 3:32

  269. @Boethiuss
    @nebulafox


    No, “we” wouldn’t. They’d get crushed as badly as Trump. The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies or they’ll go the way of the Whigs. Trump’s a clown. Not disputing that at all. But replacing him with a GOP Establishment flunky is not going to suddenly give them a chance at reelection.
     
    Oh yes, we would. It's especially important to note this goes way beyond the polls, candidates and other machinations for political office, and has important ramifications for our otherwise apolitical lives. Once Trump is gone, normie Americans will start saying and believing things like,

    "Just because one bad cop killed George Floyd, doesn't mean we're supposed get rid of the whole police force."

    "Non-binary trans? You've got to be kidding me. She's just going through a phase because the boys like the other girls better."

    "What the hell does Apple have to do with Black Lives Matter? They should worry about politics less and figure out how to make a laptop where the battery doesn't crap out in months,"

    etc, etc. And beyond that, they will start to meet other people who agree with them and organize for this or that. And right now, this isn't happening, because Trump.

    Some of this is because people are afraid of getting cancelled, but if I had to guess I'd say mostly not. Normie white America is genuinely repulsed by Trump and doesn't want to say or believe anything that associates themselves with him. And at the present moment they are basically holding their breath waiting for someone or something to get rid of Trump. And at that point they will exhale and reassess.

    The problem is that if we wait for Joe Biden to do the honors, it's very possible to believe that we're going to lose the Presidency, the Senate, a couple SCOTUS seats, legislatures, etc, etc. Plus the length of time where most of us will simply have internalized that BLM protests, cancelling, tech oligopoly incompetence and shit customer service, etc, is just the way things are and we'll lose whatever initiative we might have to improve things for the better.

    The point being, this problem is unique (for now) to Trump. Jeb, or Mitt Romney, or Paul Ryan (or some other bete noire) don't have this problem. The problem for them is that too many people oppose their worldview, won't support them, and will support someone else instead. Trump has that problem too, but also the problem that people who might agree with him are too ashamed to be associated with him.

    Populism is temporarily discredited because of Trump, but fails to go away, with any GOP insurgency easily winning the nomination by virtue of ticking off the donors. Democrats try to lean on demographic weight as best they can, but fail to reconcile the competing factions in their party and also fail to realize the extent that radicalization is brewing counter-radicalization. Our bipartisan neoliberal elites learn absolutely nothing from the whole Trump experience, overreach on their Russian/Mexican oligarch fantasies, and implode. What they want-for things to back to the way they were before 2016-is simply not tenable.
     
    Yeah, probably, if I had to guess. People are going to wait till Trump is gone and then reassess. The fallout from that reassessment is substantially unpredictable. Unfortunately, the endpoint of our current course of events in the Trump trench warfare world is entirely predictable.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    You know, I gave your comment some thought, and I’ll eat crow: I think you are right. I still stand by what I say about Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney not winning elections, but that’s not what you are arguing. A lot of people out there might not buy the media’s arguments about Trump being a crypto-fascist, but are still deeply embarrassed by the man’s self-parodying joke Presidency. And are angry with it for its failures at a time of national crisis.

    Even Carlson’s comparing supporting Trump to rooting for the old Cubs. LBJ never actually made his famous Cronkie quote, but you can say something similar here.

    (The funny thing is, unlike many iSteve commentators, “Normie White America” is not really where I come from. Part of this is age: most commentators here remember a time where Normie White America was the default in a way that I don’t. But I also had the weird experience as a kid of living next to the bottom, outside of, and the top of the American soicoeconomic scale, without truly being a part of any of it. Never really the medium mainstream. The closest might be some of my extended family, and they were distant figures that I maybe saw 1 or 2 times growing up.)

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    @nebulafox


    You know, I gave your comment some thought, and I’ll eat crow: I think you are right. I still stand by what I say about Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney not winning elections, but that’s not what you are arguing. A lot of people out there might not buy the media’s arguments about Trump being a crypto-fascist, but are still deeply embarrassed by the man’s self-parodying joke Presidency. And are angry with it for its failures at a time of national crisis.
     
    Thank you, thank you, yes, that's exactly what I meant. The only thing I'll add in addition is that the virus was the turning point.

    The Kool-Aid drinkers were saying that Trump was cruising to reelection in January and early February. That's a little optimistic, but still, he was probably even money or a little better at that time. But then the virus hit, and Trump derped, and has been derping ever since. And it's the derp that kills.

    This is important because it cements the futility of the Trump campaign that we see today. The problem isn't just that Biden is losing by 14 points, or whatever. It's compounded by the fact that that now, in contrast to anytime before March, the American people are determined to ignore Trump. So for the usual Trump tricks, Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe, ad campaigns, Twitter, rallies, whatever, there's no audience for.
  270. @Anonymous

    In lesser news, iSteve broke the one million page view mark in June, my highest monthly figure since a handful of million page months in 2017-2018.

    All it takes for Tucker and me to get high ratings is anarchy in the streets.

    Of course, maybe if more people had listened to us years ago, this social collapse could have been forestalled, and thus we wouldn’t look like such accurate prophets in June 2020.
     
    Any method of measuring the quality of your readership? Methinks you're farther from having any real influence than you were a decade ago. The general brand of nationalism/citizenism is now associated with all kinds of crackpottery. It's even worse than being associated with neonazi biker gangs, who at least have some level of sex appeal. These fatasses chewing on their Cheetos and going on about vaccines are poison and wearing masks is slavery, they are just the lowest form of man. You can't be blamed for this development, but you didn't exactly do much to counter it either.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Any method of measuring the quality of your readership?

    It took a noticeable turn for the worse when commenter Anonymous[276] showed up.

  271. @Reg Cæsar
    @nebulafox


    The GOP needs to ditch their rancid free market fantasies...
     
    Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called "American". Now it's "rancid".

    or they’ll go the way of the Whigs.
     
    And you'll get the confiscatory taxes and socialism you pine for. Diversity is the quickest route there, so why would you oppose it?

    A "rancid free-market" approach to immigration would force immigrants to pay their own way or go home. Basically, 1880 again. That's my kind of populism.

    But you're "from the government and here to help me... "

    Replies: @botazefa, @nebulafox

    >Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called “American”. Now it’s “rancid”.

    This isn’t the 1980s: forget what Saint Ronnie said. Corporate America is not your friend. It is definitely not right-wing populism’s friend. And why should they be? Materially and ideologically, post-national woke neoliberalism is way better for them. Just look at who is sponsoring this woke nonsense.

    >And you’ll get the confiscatory taxes and socialism you pine for. Diversity is the quickest route there, so why would you oppose it?

    Why not? We already have socialism for CEOs while enforcing unbridled market mechanisms for the masses. You seem to be under the illusion that throwing out government power and regulations is going to somehow reverse that. That’s not how it is gonna play out in a politically connected oligarch dominated rentier economy, which is what the United States of 2020 is. Take away the last vestiges of restraints on market mechanisms, and it’ll be the people already in charge who profit, not your small business owner from the down the road. State power is the only realistic counterweight. The public and private sectors are two drooling zombies currently cooperating with each other in their pillaging of the American masses. They should be goaded into fighting each other instead: and both weakened enough so they can be harnessed according to societal interests.

    Screw the free market. It’s a tool, nothing more, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Nowadays, it is definitely the latter. It’s time to prioritize what would be best for the United States. The market should be subordinate to national interests and societal welfare, not the other way around.

    >A “rancid free-market” approach to immigration would force immigrants to pay their own way or go home. Basically, 1880 again. That’s my kind of populism.

    No, a free market approach to immigration means an asymptotic approach to open borders. Pre-Trump Republicans made that quite clear. And Trump’s gone out of his way in power to signal that he’s not against the traditional pro-business approach to mass immigration. Who do you think is going to prevent corporations from sponsoring mass cheap labor imports?

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @nebulafox


    Screw the free market. It’s a tool, nothing more, to be used when useful and discarded when not.
     
    The same could be said for the rule of law. We've seen how that has worked out.



    https://tobiasmastgrave.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/quote-the-end-may-justify-the-means-as-long-as-there-is-something-that-justifies-the-end-leon-trotsky-186920.jpg


    It's like commenters here who whine that abortion should be legal because it keeps the black birth rate down. But aborting the mothers rather than the babies would do more to accomplish this. These commenters don't have the nerve to come out and say this, and Paul Kersey will block you if you did.

    It’s time to prioritize what would be best for the United States.
     
    In the 19th century, that meant the American Colonization Society. Both sides in the Civil War ignored their wisdom.

    And why "the United States"? Since when have the states ever had united interests? Is the constitutional ban on Idaho and Maine placing tariffs on each other's potatoes just free-market fundamentalism gone mad?
  272. @anon
    @Muggles

    –CHAZ or CHOP is no more.

    Suspect Antifa pulled their people out sometime in the last 5 - 7 days because Bad Orange Man didn't take the bait. What was left behind? Street people, joggers, randomoids. All expendable as far as Antifa is concerned.

    Bet Rapper Warlord was gone before this AM. Ditto the guys with the radios.

    We all remember how SPAZ was gonna be cop-free so all peace, and in the last five days 3 people got shot with one dead, right?

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew

    From preliminary reports, the last Black teen killed in CHAZ was on a joyride in a stolen car with his friend. Looking to get away, he headed for CHAZ but ended up crashing into a barrier. In the ensuing confusion, Antifa/CHAZ “security” put over 130 rounds into the stolen car, killing the one Black teen and seriously wounding the other. They then confiscated evidence before the police arrived.

    This should be a national news story right now, but of course the propaganda machine has already memory holed it. I think it deserves an iSteve thread.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous Jew

    >130 rounds
    I can't even find the appropriate Viper cover I'm laughing so hard at this. 130 rounds. So I guess Springsteen ("41 shots") will write a song?

  273. @wren
    @Dave Pinsen

    1,500 buildings destroyed and damaged in Minneapolis/St.Paul alone.

    https://m.startribune.com/minneapolis-st-paul-buildings-are-damaged-looted-after-george-floyd-protests-riots/569930671/

    The left has shown us the future under their leadership, and I am sure people know this.

    The political ads write themselves.

    Replies: @Mike_from_SGV

    My fear is that these ads won’t make a decisive difference because too many whites are pathetic and have become Blm adherents.

  274. @botazefa
    @Dave Pinsen


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.
     

    The federal government has its own law enforcement agencies – perhaps you’ve heard of some of them? – the FBI, the ATF, etc.
     
    There are many thousands of rioters in all major cities. How how many FBI/ATF are in each city? Not many. How much federal jail space is in each city? Maybe none and what exists is temporary holding space.

    How does Trump lock up anyone en masse? He can't. If democratic mayors want rioting in their cities then... that *is* what they want, or at least condone.

    States rights, or to the people, yadda yadda and so forth.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Watch Thursday night’s Tucker Carlson Tonight. He interviewed a US Attorney in the first segment who said the feds have charged 150 rioters so far, and assisted local authorities with arresting hundreds more.

    They probably need to do 10x more, but it’s a start.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @Dave Pinsen

    Unfortunately I don't have cable so the only Tucker Carlson I get to watch is on the youtube. I'll try to find it. Thanks for the lead.

    I'm glad that people are being charged for criminal activity. A lawless nation isn't a nation at all,

    Hopefully this mass temper tantrum will ebb, giving time for local authorities to sift through all the video evidence and file charges and make arrests. We should be patient and let the system work through it.

    And I think, as repulsive as Trump should be, he deserves some forbearance.

    Mass arrests are, I think, very tricky under our Federal System.

  275. @nebulafox
    @Boethiuss

    You know, I gave your comment some thought, and I'll eat crow: I think you are right. I still stand by what I say about Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney not winning elections, but that's not what you are arguing. A lot of people out there might not buy the media's arguments about Trump being a crypto-fascist, but are still deeply embarrassed by the man's self-parodying joke Presidency. And are angry with it for its failures at a time of national crisis.

    Even Carlson's comparing supporting Trump to rooting for the old Cubs. LBJ never actually made his famous Cronkie quote, but you can say something similar here.

    (The funny thing is, unlike many iSteve commentators, "Normie White America" is not really where I come from. Part of this is age: most commentators here remember a time where Normie White America was the default in a way that I don't. But I also had the weird experience as a kid of living next to the bottom, outside of, and the top of the American soicoeconomic scale, without truly being a part of any of it. Never really the medium mainstream. The closest might be some of my extended family, and they were distant figures that I maybe saw 1 or 2 times growing up.)

    Replies: @Boethiuss

    You know, I gave your comment some thought, and I’ll eat crow: I think you are right. I still stand by what I say about Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney not winning elections, but that’s not what you are arguing. A lot of people out there might not buy the media’s arguments about Trump being a crypto-fascist, but are still deeply embarrassed by the man’s self-parodying joke Presidency. And are angry with it for its failures at a time of national crisis.

    Thank you, thank you, yes, that’s exactly what I meant. The only thing I’ll add in addition is that the virus was the turning point.

    The Kool-Aid drinkers were saying that Trump was cruising to reelection in January and early February. That’s a little optimistic, but still, he was probably even money or a little better at that time. But then the virus hit, and Trump derped, and has been derping ever since. And it’s the derp that kills.

    This is important because it cements the futility of the Trump campaign that we see today. The problem isn’t just that Biden is losing by 14 points, or whatever. It’s compounded by the fact that that now, in contrast to anytime before March, the American people are determined to ignore Trump. So for the usual Trump tricks, Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe, ad campaigns, Twitter, rallies, whatever, there’s no audience for.

  276. @Anonymous Jew
    @anon

    From preliminary reports, the last Black teen killed in CHAZ was on a joyride in a stolen car with his friend. Looking to get away, he headed for CHAZ but ended up crashing into a barrier. In the ensuing confusion, Antifa/CHAZ “security” put over 130 rounds into the stolen car, killing the one Black teen and seriously wounding the other. They then confiscated evidence before the police arrived.

    This should be a national news story right now, but of course the propaganda machine has already memory holed it. I think it deserves an iSteve thread.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    >130 rounds
    I can’t even find the appropriate Viper cover I’m laughing so hard at this. 130 rounds. So I guess Springsteen (“41 shots”) will write a song?

  277. @Dave Pinsen
    @Boethiuss


    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?
     
    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That's a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1275129838022598656?s=21


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1277339435257024516?s=21

    Replies: @wren, @Whiskey, @botazefa, @Corvinus, @Boethiuss, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    Bird’s steal 1987 ECF Game 5

    From NBA Entertainment – NBA Dynasty Series: Boston Celtics The Complete History

    • Thanks: Dave Pinsen
  278. @nebulafox
    @Reg Cæsar

    >Allowing people to make their own decisions with their own money used to be called “American”. Now it’s “rancid”.

    This isn't the 1980s: forget what Saint Ronnie said. Corporate America is not your friend. It is definitely not right-wing populism's friend. And why should they be? Materially and ideologically, post-national woke neoliberalism is way better for them. Just look at who is sponsoring this woke nonsense.

    >And you’ll get the confiscatory taxes and socialism you pine for. Diversity is the quickest route there, so why would you oppose it?

    Why not? We already have socialism for CEOs while enforcing unbridled market mechanisms for the masses. You seem to be under the illusion that throwing out government power and regulations is going to somehow reverse that. That's not how it is gonna play out in a politically connected oligarch dominated rentier economy, which is what the United States of 2020 is. Take away the last vestiges of restraints on market mechanisms, and it'll be the people already in charge who profit, not your small business owner from the down the road. State power is the only realistic counterweight. The public and private sectors are two drooling zombies currently cooperating with each other in their pillaging of the American masses. They should be goaded into fighting each other instead: and both weakened enough so they can be harnessed according to societal interests.

    Screw the free market. It's a tool, nothing more, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Nowadays, it is definitely the latter. It's time to prioritize what would be best for the United States. The market should be subordinate to national interests and societal welfare, not the other way around.

    >A “rancid free-market” approach to immigration would force immigrants to pay their own way or go home. Basically, 1880 again. That’s my kind of populism.

    No, a free market approach to immigration means an asymptotic approach to open borders. Pre-Trump Republicans made that quite clear. And Trump's gone out of his way in power to signal that he's not against the traditional pro-business approach to mass immigration. Who do you think is going to prevent corporations from sponsoring mass cheap labor imports?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Screw the free market. It’s a tool, nothing more, to be used when useful and discarded when not.

    The same could be said for the rule of law. We’ve seen how that has worked out.

    It’s like commenters here who whine that abortion should be legal because it keeps the black birth rate down. But aborting the mothers rather than the babies would do more to accomplish this. These commenters don’t have the nerve to come out and say this, and Paul Kersey will block you if you did.

    It’s time to prioritize what would be best for the United States.

    In the 19th century, that meant the American Colonization Society. Both sides in the Civil War ignored their wisdom.

    And why “the United States”? Since when have the states ever had united interests? Is the constitutional ban on Idaho and Maine placing tariffs on each other’s potatoes just free-market fundamentalism gone mad?

  279. @Boethiuss
    @Anonymous


    Crazy Bernie Supporters. I’m subscribed to some of their Facebook support pages, and they are collectively livid over having the nomination “stolen from them… again.”

    Perhaps refer to them as formerly the “feel the bern,” to now the “let it bern” crowd. Many have pledged to either not vote, or rage vote for Trump.
     
    Yeah, but no. The Bernie Bros are a lot mellower this cycle than 2016. First of all, Biden didn't steal anything from Bernie, he won fair and square. So for the Bernie Bros, they are more embarrassed than angry at this development.

    Basically, I think a couple of the Chapos have publicly stated that they're not voting for Joe this fall, and that's about as far as it goes. Everybody else is on board, though most of them are disappointed nonetheless.

    Replies: @Kronos

    More like they stole the nomination fair and square. Mayor “bootycall” Pete and Angry A.K. dropped out of the race at the right time to bump up Biden’s numbers. Warren bled out Bernie for as long as possible, depriving him of crucial support. Warren’s campaign was dead in the water, but she likely sabotaged Bernie on the secret promise of a cabinet post in a Biden Presidency.

    The Neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party was ready for Sanders this time around. They had three years to develop a plan to box him out in a more “legitimate” fashion than in 2016.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  280. @Dave Pinsen
    @botazefa

    Watch Thursday night's Tucker Carlson Tonight. He interviewed a US Attorney in the first segment who said the feds have charged 150 rioters so far, and assisted local authorities with arresting hundreds more.

    They probably need to do 10x more, but it's a start.

    Replies: @botazefa

    Unfortunately I don’t have cable so the only Tucker Carlson I get to watch is on the youtube. I’ll try to find it. Thanks for the lead.

    I’m glad that people are being charged for criminal activity. A lawless nation isn’t a nation at all,

    Hopefully this mass temper tantrum will ebb, giving time for local authorities to sift through all the video evidence and file charges and make arrests. We should be patient and let the system work through it.

    And I think, as repulsive as Trump should be, he deserves some forbearance.

    Mass arrests are, I think, very tricky under our Federal System.

  281. Unfortunately, advocating abstract concepts like equality under the law and freedom of speech aren’t going to get us anywhere. They are, first of all, liberal concepts, and so by adopting these concepts as our own, we end up perpetuating liberal ideology while ostensibly fighting it. Second of all, they are too abstract to have an agreed-upon concrete meaning: what counts as equality under the law or free speech means vastly different things to different people, depending on one’s prior and usually implicit commitments.

    Take equality under the law. What people mean when they advocate for this principle is that they believe certain features should be deemed irrelevant when determining justice (for instance, race). But in that case, saying that you favor ‘equal protection of the law’ is far too vague to have any meaningful, stable content: every person means something different by it. Everyone, liberals and conservatives alike, wants the law to discriminate on the basis of certain features but not on others.

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    For example, consider how both supporters and opponents of ‘gay marriage’ appeal to ‘equality under the law’ in support of their positions: the former supposes that equality demands that the law ought to be blind to sexual preference, thus treating the desires of heterosexuals and homosexuals ‘equally’; the latter supposes that the erstwhile traditional law already treated heterosexuals and homosexuals equally: both were equally free to marry someone of the opposite sex. To determine who is right, appealing to ‘equality under the law’ solves nothing. One has to appeal to an actual substantive theory of the good.

    The law by its very nature must discriminate (you cannot have a law that does not discriminate in one way or another). ‘Equal protection under the law’ is too vague for it to do any real work: any given case always comes down to the particulars, where the law discriminates in one way or another based on the particulars of that case. Every single law treats some people differently from others. And every time a law is executed, it is treating the individual against which the law is executed differently from other people because of particular features that differentiate that individual from others.

    The million dollar question then is which features and distinctions matter and which features and distinctions don’t matter? That’s what needs to be debated.

    Likewise freedom of speech. What counts as free speech will depend on one’s prior commitments. There is no such thing as a truly neutral policy of free speech: there is always some implicit moral code that is presupposed in determining what counts as free speech. Moreover, no society that aims to maintain itself can tolerate speech that attacks its perceived source of legitimacy. Our society regards ‘inclusiveness’ and anti-racism as its source of legitimacy and so cannot allow attacks on these principles to stand.

    Rather than arguing for abstract and vague principles like equality under the law and freedom of speech that will doom conservatives in the long run, Carlson should be simply arguing for actual concrete truths: for example, that BLM is an evil, murderous organization that hates whites. He should also attack our perceived legitimizing principles of inclusiveness, anti-racism, etc.

  282. @Dave Pinsen
    @Boethiuss


    This might have been useful six months ago, or even three months ago. Now? What’s the point?
     
    To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016).

    It’s 4 months to the election. That's a long time by 2020 standards. Think about how long ago February seems now. There are things Trump can do to win support between now and then. One was this move toward immigration restrictionism.

    https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1275129838022598656?s=21


    Another would be locking up rioters en masse.

    A third would be taking a tougher rhetorical stand against BLM.

    See also this thread from Michael Tracey, documenting the massive damage done by BLM rioters. No question Trump could be doing a better job than he is, but it’s hard to see the victims of this voting enthusiastically for Biden. The rise of cancel culture might be skewing the polls a bit too.

    In short, it’s too soon to give up, and there’s no upside to doing so.

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1277339435257024516?s=21

    Replies: @wren, @Whiskey, @botazefa, @Corvinus, @Boethiuss, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

  283. @HA
    @Anonymous

    "Big deal, Claira Janover got that many viewers in ~5 hrs; will have her own Disney/Funko princess figurine line by next month, at this rate."

    She'll need the work. According to her, she was fired from her job at Deloitte a few hours ago.


    “The job that I’d worked really hard to get and meant a lot to me has called me and fired me because of everything.”... Janover’s LinkedIn account lists her as an “incoming government and public business service analyst” at Deloitte, a UK-based accounting firm.... Janover, who contended that the ["i'ma stab"] message was an analogy rather than a serious threat, has since deleted that video, but said that she’s since received a deluge of threats against her own life and safety...

    Through tears, a defiant Janover vowed not to back down. “I’m too strong for you. I’m too strong for any of you ‘All Lives Matter,’ racist Trump supporters,” she said...

    She also took a parting shot at Deloitte... “I’m sorry, Deloitte, that you can’t see that,” she said. “That you were cowardice [sic] enough to fight somebody who’s going to make an indelible change in the world and is going to have an impact.”
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Pierre de Craon

    It has now come to light that she was never employed by Deloitte in the first place. Those among the well-heeled who share her passion for “justice” have used GoFundMe and similar moral-shakedown rackets to raise $10,000 or so to pay her expenses for the next several weeks.

    If only …

  284. @Corvinus
    @Dave Pinsen

    "We’re luck to have Tucker, but how do we get you in front of Trump, Steve?"

    LOL. All this time, Mr. Sailer could have used his backchannels to get six degrees of Kevin Bacon closer to Trump's inner circle and convince The Donald of his master pattern recognition skills. And you of all people should know by now that Trump is all about his brand and his way of doing things, which is why his advisors have been a revolving door. You really think Mr. Sailer wants to be part of the circus with that clown?

    "One of your virtues, as with Tucker, is that although you’ve both been critical of Trump."

    Since when? Mr. Sailer generally steers clear of directly confronting Trump's foibles and malfeasance. He throws a bone here and there, but deep down he knows that Trump is a train wreck, but he is not about to alienate those who pay his bills.

    "To win back his white supporters, and increase his white vote % (he’s polling better with Hispanics now than in 2016)."

    Did you drop a barbell on your noggin'? We know what is Trump by now. He will have to curb every instinct in his body to win back those he pissed off with his lack of direction, his use of Jewish advisors, and his knack for putting his interests first above the nation.

    "Another would be locking up rioters en masse."

    I thought that is a local responsibility. Besides, if he was serious about taking that stance, he would have done it by now.

    "It’s 4 months to the election. That’s a long time by 2020 standards."

    Now that is true. I do not necessarily believe the polls that say Biden is way ahead. And we do know that Trump is counting on outside interference to help him in his re-election bid. But make no mistake about it, Trump is in definitive trouble to get re-elected.

    "One was this move toward immigration restrictionism."

    It's all about the economy. Trump said to judge him on that, and the people will come November.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    And we do know that Trump is counting on outside interference to help him in his re-election bid. But make no mistake about it, Trump is in definitive trouble to get re-elected.

    Indeed. What’s the latest on the lawfare surrounding universal mail-in balloting? If this comes to pass, Trump is toast. It’s hard enough for any Republican to overcome the margin of theft as it is; it would be too easy to manufacture hundreds of thousands of phony mail ballots in swing states.

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