Okay, so who is blocking the microdata?

Who? That really means who, not just some other blog entry about so-and-so and such-and-such department did it. No, you can’t escape and be that slippery.

Who really makes this happen?

Is that a micro question? I don’t think so.

White people, their history, their statues and their identity are being erased, why not their data

the one thing most people can agree on is that we should try to improve the data available to policymakers.

I doubt that. What people should want is very different from what they actually want.

Data is racist.
Or is it, data are racist?

The West has become the late-stage Soviet Union. Now is the time to think of ways to exploit a bureaucracy that is choosing to work blind. Consider the Italians responding to their government’s completely out of control tax schedule by militantly going all cash all the time and never reporting anything.

Do we live in the Soviet Union? Is data which shows the dismal results of collectivization multiculturalism being deleted?

Diversity and multiculturalism – or Cultural Marxism as it’s sometimes described – is basically group-level communism. Communism classic assumed/enforced the equality of individuals (while at least tacitly allowing for differences between groups) whereas group-level communism/Cultural Marxism assumes/enforces the equality of groups while admitting and allowing for the existence of individual differences in ability. All differences in group outcome are asserted to be the result of racism, privilege or oppression and “equity” proposed as a mechanism to equalize these unjust outcomes.

Some people balk at the term “Cultural Marxism” because Marx was (at least kind of) a race realist, as was almost everybody at that time – point taken, but I have no problem with the term. It is qualified by “Cultural” after all. Nevertheless, I find “group-level communism” more descriptive. In any event do “Republican” and “Democrat” have anything to do with advocating republican vs. (direct?) democratic forms of government? No. They’re terms which are completely detached from those original meanings, at least in modern parlance. (The meanings of words change. We should be able to get over this fact.)

But, yes, there is a direct line of descent between classic communism and its modern Cultural Marxist descendant ideology – an ideological change which Marx and Engels themselves would likely be chagrined to discover.

Here’s what they had to say about the Mexican-American War, Marx: “Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?” Engels: “In America we have witnessed the conquest of Mexico and have rejoiced at it. It is to the interest of its own development that Mexico will be placed under the tutelage of the United States.” Clearly, these men did not live in denial of group differences. The same, however, cannot be said of their ideological descendants.

See: https://eu.newsherald.com/story/opinion/2020/08/16/many-marxists-dont-realize-their-hero-racist-and-anti-semite/3369024001/

More: https://www.unz.com/audio/jtaylor_mayorkas-impeached/#comment-6420950

Steve stopped caring about Covid or Vax data as soon as it failed to support the official Narrative. But it would be a simple problem to solve if only the existing data were made available. In fact, none of the nations that mandated the mRNA have allowed anonymized mortality and vax data to be matched up to determine if the mRNA killed people or saved people on the net.

MPs in Britain are now demanding release of the data there, so maybe we’ll get to know before the next engineered health hysteria. Or maybe not.

Those aren’t the droids data you’re looking for.

Each bureaucrat has that inner storm trooper waiting to get out.

OT — This is hilarious.

I will add, to small-data, and to no-data: long-wait data. For example, there was the time when the FDA, in response to an FOIA, said Pfizer would need 55 years to get the vaccine-test data ready. This last is the most egregious, in the slap-in-the-face sense. A high-school analogy is instructive for me in many situations. I might well tell a teacher that, sorry, my book report is small. Or I might say, I do not have a book report to turn-in at all. But I would never say to him that my book will be ready in 55 years.

No review of Dune 2 Gaza Boogaloo then?

Sam Melia lives in the Northern England town of Pudsey, which is near Yorkshire. He’s just been convicted of ”inciting racial hatred” for saying such things as ”It’s OK to be white” and warned by the judge not to engage in any further free speech.https://t.co/xtVcpKBXeX

— VDARE (@vdare) January 24, 2024

Horrible ruling class boobs have hijacked the Conservative Party(Tories) and they are suppressing data vital to the full exploration of all aspects of the immigration invasion question in England.

There are tens of millions of Americans with partial or all English ancestry — including this writer — and the extent to which ANTI-WHITE TOTALITARIANISM(AWT) has taken root in England leads me to believe that the Conservatives(Tory Party) must be politically decapitated as soon as possible so as to allow space for an English political party that advances the interests of the True Core English ancestral stock of England.

ENGLAND FOR THE ENGLISH!

Government restrictions on data lead me to ask, “ What will America’s Chernobyl be?” Been rewatching the series recently and one of the main themes of the show is that a government / society that cannot face the truth about itself is doomed to disaster.

I’m not the only commentator here to note the disturbing trends between the current US and late 80s Soviet Union:
– corrupt gerontocracy
– declining life span and increasing substance abuse
– great discrepancy between actual power and self-perceived power
(Great quote from Chernobyl came from the Gorbachev character “Our power comes from the perception of power.”)

I think the root of all of this is a society that is unable to tell the necessary truths about itself. So if we take the analogy all the way, the question becomes, what will be the shock to the system that will force the necessary change? What will America’s Chernobyl be?

SafeNow: “I will add, to small-data, and to no-data: long-wait data.”

Is that like “long-wait” comment moderation? Another form of censorship and “putting one’s thumb on the scale” to rig/mold the debate outcome to the one which you yourself favour?

“Democracy dies in discussion.” I’m glad Jon Stewart is back, although his smug style of progressivism contributed to our current political hellscape. I like to think he’s aware of that on some level and trying to fix the problem he helped to create.

The trend among progressive institutions (academia, media, and government) toward less and less transparency is genuinely alarming, and we need progressives who are willing to call it out. Plus a bunch of FOIA claims.

What will America’s Chernobyl be?

Chernobyl is named for Artemisia vulgaris, the common mugwort, and, per Вікіпедія, “…also occasionally known as riverside wormwood, felon herb, chrysanthemum weed, wild wormwood, old Uncle Henry, sailor’s tobacco, naughty man, old man, or St. John’s plant (not to be confused with St. John’s wort).”

Felon herb sounds about right.

Data is racist.
Or is it, data are racist?

Data be racist.

It’s vitally critically important we have data broken down by race so we can prove for the 2,618th time that non whites really really enjoy welfare and commit lots of crimes – the people need to know!

😂

The Era of Small Data

Martin Lindstrøm wrote a whole book with that name. His own “small data” persuaded Lego to abandon their plan to dumb down their product, and make it more intricate instead. Paid off bigly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Data

Small data may be more dangerous than big data are. To the pixels-that-be.

The late Kevin Phillips wrote The Emerging Republican Majority with data that were quite primitive by today’s benchmarks. E.g., using the most typical “bailiwicks” to stand in for ethnic and other demographic groups. A few years earlier, Nathaniel Weyl and Stefan Possony used Who’s Who entries combined with census data to compare various ethnicities.

These goons have made it harder to get at the truth, but not impossible. E.g., if you need a stand-in for “Indians”, just use “Leicester”.

They don’t think data be racis, but it do.

Hopefully you are already aware that the series is wildly inaccurate? That one point is weakly made once, at the library scene, but it’s Orwellian doublethink for a wokester to make any point about censorship (and he sabotages his own point anyway by making Dyatlov The Dev Ull).
I cannot find the Atlantic piece but here’s another. One thing I remember about the Atlantic piece was, in the show Dyatlov doesn’t care about a missing man, in real life he organized and led the search for him. So a lot of up-is-down reversals, and somehow this is suposed to really be about how orange man bad.
https://www.livescience.com/65766-chernobyl-series-science-wrong.html

Don’t knock small data. I learn more from what I see in my neighborhood and town than on all of TV or Twitter.

Who needs to hide arcane data when knowledge of the location of the Balkans is apparently kept from French Ministers of Education and the number of Baltic republics is a known unknown too:

Boomer evangelicals are dying out.
Israel should take notes.
China won’t be your sugar daddy. There are no evangelicals in China. pic.twitter.com/6aavmW3pnw

— Mandate of Heaven (@HongqiN701) March 4, 2024

Muh Data be Rayciss.

I like to think he’s aware of that on some level and trying to fix the problem he helped to create.

Dream on.

What will America’s Chernobyl be?

Aircraft carrier sunk/gravely damaged by missile/drone strike in Arabian/South China Sea rendering a trillion dollars of naval investment obsolete at one stroke.

Pedantic sperg warning: Strictly speaking then it’s the rebel scum who don’t want you to know stuff, the storm troopers were the ones doing the searching.

1967 USS Forrestal fire detonated a 1,000 pound AN-M65A1 bomb that was thin-skinned and filled with Composition B.

The ship survived, but with damage exceeding US$72 million, not including the damage to aircraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire

Making policy based on the data can be unhealthy:

"It is unhealthy to link housing to the volume of people that are coming here to seek refuge and asylum, equally unhealthy to relate it to immigrants…" – Immigration Minister Marc Miller

Canada's political elite is divorced from reality. pic.twitter.com/4XNSBOWT30

— Riley Donovan (@valdombre) March 4, 2024

That’s a good point. The Jedi were a strange medieval pseudo mystical holdover.

Up the Empire!

Pearl Harbor 2 the Bab El Mandab Boogaloo.

Thanks to Steve for Noticing a story about my country which I had not. It has already been announced that the 2021 census of the UK will be the last in which officials visit every home in the land in person with a questionnaire: there will be no 2031 census.

The link to Neil O’Brien’s Substack is worth following for the words of the National Statistician and Chief Executive of the UK Statistics Authority. “Historically…transforming…transformation journey”. Also, “weight”, “estimates” and “population”. This is about population in the statistical sense, population as opposed to sample, hypothesis as opposed to data, continuous curves as opposed to finite data points.

Activists who know enough to know the distinction love population. Though climate is not a Sailer issue, those who follow climate science may have heard of “Mike’s Nature trick to hide the decline.” Mike was Michael Mann, and the trick was the publication in the journal Nature of a graph, a curve, splicing data with hypothesis, whichever suited the point to be proved.

Another Norman invasion would be preferable to this crew. What is going on with that island? Blake seems mostly loony to me, but maybe there was something satanic about those mills.

Really, no sentient being is surprised by this stuff.

Everyone knows that if the data sets that teach the models are Ivory soap-level purity objective, people may have sad faces. And sad faces will destroy our Republic.

Show me an objective set of data, objectively evaluated, and I’ll show you a threat to our Democracy (TM)!

Is Daniel Cohn-Bendit still alive? When he famously said “We are all undesirables!” My French is famously poor… Something like that… They made some cool posters. They de-stabilized the West.

Not the result I was looking for.

eleven aircraft carriers at ~ 14Bn each would be $150 Bn.
5,000 sailors …….but I concede that losing an AC would probably cause the USG to escalate to nuclear weapons out of humiliation

OK, that was a pretty funny account, I have to admit.

Yeah, it doesn’t take that much work to get Chinese to go nationalistic. They got 1.2 billion and 4000 years of history. If I were Chinese I would never shut up about how great China was.

The part that makes me think it’s authentic rather than an American parody is that he seems to spend most of his time dumping on Indians.

We are gearing up for another big week with lawsuits against California and ATF on full display.

Why are these briefs so important?

California's brief is the last chance to defend its anti-rights public carry bans before the April 11th Oral Arguments, and, of course, will… pic.twitter.com/uM77UBbvxp

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) March 4, 2024

Weird that ATF Director Steve Dettelbach would admit that a complete frame isn’t a firearm on a nationally broadcast propaganda puff piece while there’s a pending Cert Petition at SCOTUS that claims chunks of plastic are…

“He’s gonna make it a gun for you.” pic.twitter.com/M0kyygyaww

— Firearms Policy Coalition (@gunpolicy) March 4, 2024

This guy really believes the "NRA" is what he should be worried about – as if the NRA is some nerd think tank in DC.

Put aside the fact that most of us have left the NRA for much greener pastures, and simply consider that the NRA is comprised of millions of individual gun… https://t.co/STmVpd8ZzY

— Feni𝕏 Ammunition (@FenixAmmunition) March 4, 2024

That was brilliant.

Thanks. Wish I’d known that quote 30 years ago. Could have gobsmacked a lot of people.

Steve stopped caring about Covid or Vax data as soon as it failed to support the official Narrative

Yes, all of the COVID badness is his fault.

Since you evidently never read him back then about this, you “know” he was always parroting the official Narrative.

The dozens of detailed essays, posts, charts, graphs, video links, URLs etc. in his essays and among his commentators were all just an illusion.

You know when Steve’s “not caring” it is always because he is just an establishment parrot. He never notices anything the NYT doesn’t approve of.

If he is so terrible, why do you bother to come here and complain?

“It’s so tiresome…”

Exactly where in the UK do you reside Mr. Pewitt?

There are some interested citizens who would like to know

Friendly chat and all. A cuppa tea and scones.

Pip Pip…

Yes, this has a funny Monty Pythonesque quality about it.

The French can and do pull that off without cracking a smile.

However, maybe someone was “trying” to allude to the fact that there are other countries with national borders on the Baltic, on the southern side

Russia, Poland, Germany, Denmark.

They are not normally referred as “Baltic” nations since that seems to be reserved for these three small insignificant countries who nobody but crossword puzzle enthusiasts know about.

So maybe this exchange was merely a Gallic existential deep humor wordplay by witty but obtuse French thinkers.

But you have to love that video lower chyron “Vladimir Poutine”… Don’t the Canadians eat that for breakfast?

He lives in New Hampshire and finds his way into many local news pieces. For example:

CONCORD — As a yellow school bus, carrying teachers from New Hampshire and Massachusetts, rolled up for the first of several press conferences around the state Wednesday in conjunction with the Obama administration announcement of a program to create an elite corps of master teachers it wasn’t all cheers.

Concord resident Charles Pewitt loudly and relentlessly accused the teachers of wanting more money and power through their unions.

Pewitt also accused the Obama administration of flooding public schools with 1 million third-world immigrants a year. “Why should good native-born Manchester kids have to suffer for that?” he yelled at the teachers.

https://www.unionleader.com/news/education/on-bus-teacher-group-sees-obamas-policies-as-far-superior-to-romneys/article_ec2e9e2b-a486-5e93-bf0b-fe42c4128392.html

Courtesy of the “Maverick” John McCain.

However, maybe someone was “trying” to allude to the fact that there are other countries with national borders on the Baltic, on the southern side

I just listened to the clip again and noticed that transcript is incomplete. Ferry says “there are Baltic countries that are candidates to join the EU, Montenegro and Serbia for example” so he is thinking of the Balkans when he insists they’re the Baltics. Cohn-Bendit switching from saying there are three and then four Baltic states just adds to the fun.

If he is so terrible, why do you bother to come here and complain?

Because this is a forum for discussion, not ass kissing. Steve is ok on some things. But he’s a disaster on other things. I don’t mind saying so.

He likes to keep his persona close to his vest so it’s hard to ever say what, if anything, he actually believes in or cares about. He has the forum if he ever wants to set the record straight on anything. But if one wants to figure out what is motivating his positions all one can do is “notice” the things that he says, or doesn’t say.

I can remember when he was so obsessive about COVID and vaccine issues that nobody here could stand it any more (It was much worse than black traffic statistics). But now he couldn’t care less what actually happened or why. What do you think about this? What’s your theory?

Here’s the full transcript:

Chernobyl’s significance wasn’t the disaster itself. Deadly industrial disasters had been common throughout the USSR’s history. Chernobyl’s significance was that it got reported inside the USSR.

So maybe the US’s Chernobyl was the affirmative action case against Harvard and UNC because for the first time the public got to see how the “thumb on the scale” was really an elephant’s butt. And hot on that case’s heels, the news about one after another affirmative action college administrator faking her way to a PhD.

The shock to the system that will force change will happen over a period of time instead of one moment. I would argue that it started when a political outsider who was not expected to win the presidency did so in 2016.

He won because life is now getting worse for a large percentage of the population. The low interest rate inflationary policy of the Federal Reserve was designed to inflate the stock market and benefit the ten percent of the population who own ninety percent of stocks.

This same inflationary policy raised domestic manufacturing wages and made American workers uncompetitive on the world labor market, leading to the hollowing out of our industrial base as manufacturing was offshored. The red states, like Indiana where I live, are the states that were most affected by this. It is in these places that you see declines in life expectancy.

If you know more about the world, then you have a greater ability to manipulate it daily workings. A fine example of this is the Japanese American Citizens League postwar policy agenda which encompassed minority rights writ large. The Japanese American Citizens League leaders capitalized on this moment to advocate for both Black Americans and Japanese.

The Japanese American Citizens League was a consistent, active member of the liberal civil rights coalition at midcentury. Year after year, The Japanese American Citizens League showed up for civil rights fights, filing amicus briefs and lobbying members of Congress to support workplace protections, voting rights, and school and housing desegregation. It added its voice to the those opposing the, lynching, and police brutality. In particular, The Japanese American Citizens League invested heavily in the Black-led campaign to convert the wartime Fair Employment Practices, or FEPC into a permanent federal agency with robust enforcement authority and broad coverage.

Ina Sugihara, a firecracker activist, went all-in on this front. Infuriated by the White treatment endured by California’s “Japanese” and eager to escape the Pacific Coast detention orders, Sugihara moved to New York City during the war. She gravitated toward racial justice organizations, co-founding the Congress of Racial Equality’s New York chapter. CORE, as it was known, spearheaded direct-action tactics to thwart segregation.

Indeed.

It is completely obvious that when large organisations are confronted with facts that are uncomfortable to them, their instinctive reaction is to withhold those facts from the general public. Self preservation is the supreme instinct of a bureaucracy.
Many years ago, the UK prison system refused to issue information regarding the ethnicity of UK prisoners to a left wing newspaper – which was eager to play up the ‘darkies as victims’ trope on the grounds that such statistics ‘will be miss used by racists’. Hence the tacit poker game admission that the ‘racists’ were right all along.

Another example, since the dawn of the internet age, UK newspapers have experienced enormous circulation declines. Not so long ago, UK newspapers proudly published weekly circulation figures. Now they all refuse to do so. Evidently, their plight is serious. But, ironically, no one is so pompous and demanding than the UK press that others must disclose information.

eleven aircraft carriers at ~ 14Bn each would be $150 Bn.

Yes, then add in all the other ships configured around the aircraft carrier strike group concept, from guided missile cruisers down to the humblest support craft, carrier-based aircraft development, the on-shore infrastructure to support all of it, and the ongoing costs of training and maintaining the hundreds of thousands of personnel, military, civilians, and contractors who manage—or free-ride on—it, and I’m confident the net present value will easily overtop a trill.

But it’s not really about the money. I’ve argued elsewhere that even a trillion dollars is merely a speed bump when you’ve got the reserve currency printing machine. It’s really about credibility. International Jew sees it as a matter of the credibility of the academic elites class, but I see it more as a circular confidence game between the Federal Reserve, the Military Industrial Complex, and the Dollar. The Fed’s unique ability to squirt fresh Dollars into underwriting the MIC to overawe everyone else is part of what keeps the Dollar in its exalted world reserve status. The Dollar’s reserve status is what gives the Fed its unique ability. If any leg of this three-legged stool breaks, the stool becomes two-legged, which is not a good stool.

It doesn’t have to be a military disaster. When you’re spewing out another $trillion of fresh debt every 100 days, there may simply turn out to be a limit to this money printing business. Or it could be a domestic political crisis. I just suggested a carrier catastrophe as a spectacular “American Chernobyl” as a conjectured answer to NJ Transit Commuter’s question.

Even the connection between the original Chernobyl and Soviet collapse was a little tenuous. It was five years after the reactor meltdown that the USSR dissolved, and I don’t recall anyone at the time, neither street protesters nor great statesmen, attributing the latter to the former. It was more in retrospect that Chernobyl appeared to be the first sign that the capacity of the great state wasn’t all that great. Of course there are many things one could point to—then in the USSR or today in the USA—that imply the same conclusion, but they’re not as spectacular as Chernobyl.

Agree, nearly all the files on British soldiers in WWI have been destryed, 0nly a sample 100 or so remain.

I mean who cares about WWI?

“Never Mind The Baltics. Here’s The Sick Pistol”.

Jon Stewart’s brother owns The New York Stock Exchange.

Jon Stewart is not on your side.

“I doubt that. What people should want is very different from what they actually want.”

Back at SNL, in the first few weeks you were eventually corralled by the gang and forced to do your Lorne impersonation: everybody had a Lorne, it was SOP. This was the line most people used…

“[LONG LANGUOROUS SIGH, THEN] If you give the people what they *need*, you can make a living. But if you give the people what they *want*, you can make a fortune.”

A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon you’re talking real money.

(Current debt is above 30 trillion, isn’t it?)

International students line up for a job at a Mississauga restaurant

This is Trudeau's Canada.

You can thank Marc Miller and Sean Fraser for this.@MarcMillerVM@SeanFraserMPpic.twitter.com/vpL1KBep3t

— sonofabench (@therealmrbench) March 1, 2024

Male illegal immigrants in Spain stay in luxury hotels with swimming pools and sea views. The women NGO activists seem very happy with their arrival. All at the expense of European taxpayers. pic.twitter.com/z3USJ0LOUz

— RadioGenoa (@RadioGenoa) March 5, 2024

You could argue COVID was, or the financial crisis.

Going forward I would have to guess a military conflict with China where we get beaten badly. Having recently binged an old Chinese historical novel, I suspect they are going to lay some kind of trap, and our ‘diverse’ leadership is going to fall for it. (We even have eunuchs now.)

If not, my guess would be further decay in major cities with maybe major riots destroying some landmark, a major plane crash at a major airport killing several hundred people due to air traffic control diversity, some problem with the food supply getting a few thousand people sick, or major electrical grid failures.

” . . . or major electrical grid failures.”

That’s where I’ll put my money. The insane Green top-down mandates will lead to major electrical grid failures. What happened in Texas a few years ago is the tip of the iceberg. Think how a major grid failure in the middle of winter would work out in the Northeast or Upper Midwest.

The lying traitorous Olbermann’s fall to laughable irrelevancy and clickbaity outrage has been an amusing side note in the decline of our country.

Recall that 20 years ago he was The Man on left-wing cable news and was not only singlehandedly saving MSNBC’s ratings but also being hailed as some kind of savior of the republic and compared to Edward R. Murrow by the same people who today are heavily vaccinated. For those of you recall the rise and fall of Michael Avenatti, Olbermann was a similar shining loud-mouthed lefty for a period of time.

But these days he’s a ranting lunatic on Twitter who burned all his bridges both publicly and behind the scenes who’s sole relevancy is making outrage bait like this — and failing so badly at it like this. Its delicious to see him like this, and to play the parlor game: is it really his belief, or is it performative for attention?

Diversity and multiculturalism – or Cultural Marxism as it’s sometimes described – is basically group-level communism. Communism classic assumed/enforced the equality of individuals (while at least tacitly allowing for differences between groups) whereas group-level communism/Cultural Marxism assumes/enforces the equality of groups while admitting and allowing for the existence of individual differences in ability. All differences in group outcome are asserted to be the result of racism, privilege or oppression and “equity” proposed as a mechanism to equalize these unjust outcomes.

Very good point. It explains one of the aspects of 21st-century US race relations that’s puzzled me: ADOSs (descendants of American slaves) celebrate the triumphs of other blacks, even when the victors’ families hail from the Caribbean or Africa. And even when these wins are at the expense of ADOS interests.

A well-known example is the strategy that elite universities employ to fulfill their black quotas — by recruiting the children of recent immigrants, and foreigners.

The obvious point is that group-level communism requires that group be understood. The overwhelming majority of ADOSs (and Progressives) are fine with a motte-and-bailey definition: “ADOSs suffering with the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow” when appealing to white guilt, “everybody with Sub-Saharan ancestry” when building Coalition Of The Fringes alliances (or when punishing middle-class whites).

Steve’s Citizenism becomes unworkable when a sizable fraction of citizens view their interests (and questions of Justice) in this way.

While Keith went off the deep end long ago, this is particularly egregious. Sportswriters and sportscasters get indignant when you tell them to stick to sports, but in Keith’s case it was excellent advice that he should have followed. The problem is that he is prickly and he bosses at ESPN were getting sick of him 25 years ago anyway.

Hypno, you embedded a video by John Campbell MD, who has been offering informed commentary on COVID-19 since its onset. His YouTube channel has 3 million subscribers.

I haven’t been a regular viewer, as I don’t have much patience for that format — can’t play videos while doing something else, e.g. driving. But my impression is that Campbell started at “Plague-level menace, distancing and then universal vaccination are the answers.” He did a 180 sometime in 2022-23, ending up at “Another respiratory virus threatening the vulnerable, rushed vaccines have side effects, massive Public Health fail.”

Is this synopsis broadly correct? If so, can you point to an essay or a video that explains the evolution of Campbell’s perspective?

I recall when Steve was very interested in excess deaths back in 2020 but failed to notice excess deaths in 2021, 2022 or 2023.

My theory is that Steve is embarrassed by his COVID panic. It is shameful to be so fooled by our government especially for one who notices they always lie to us. Steve really hates being wrong, thus rarely makes predictions. Thus he is ashamed of his 2020 hysteria and those months have been memory holed.

Yes and it goes on without any of them saying “oh you mean the Balkans!”.

Younger members of the ruling elite likely would have avoided this gaffe simply by keeping the discussion about feelings and personalities. Maps are “autistic” and having names for other regions feels kinda racist. Using terms like “the Balkans” is othering and doing an orientalism.

Keith Olbermann: “The Supreme Court has betrayed democracy…”

Banana Republicans all agree: The problem with the United States is that it’s not Banana Republic enough. Yet.

> What will America’s Chernobyl (the shock to the system that will force the necessary change) be?

Almost Missouri proposed, “Aircraft carrier sunk/gravely damaged by missile/drone strike in Arabian/South China Sea rendering a trillion dollars of naval investment obsolete at one stroke.”

SFG similarly guessed “a military conflict with China where we get beaten badly,” followed by “if not, further decay in major cities with maybe major riots destroying some landmark, a [plane crash] killing several hundred people due to air traffic control diversity, some problem with the food supply getting a few thousand people sick, or major electrical grid failures.”

Sadly, all are plausible.

Could also modify the Gorbachev character’s quote to “Our power comes from the perception of the durability of a stable US Dollar.”

The Federal Government’s formal debt stands at $34 trillion (100% of GDP), and will grow $3.5 trillion in 2024. Actual borrowing from the future is much higher (state/local governments, unfunded commitments like Social Security). While ‘everyone’ knows that these debts can never be paid, ‘everyone’ also acts on the basis that the USD will retain 97% of its value in every future year.

Fortunately, there is no known instance of a polity (past or present) where the standard of living plummeted when people stopped believing in the fiscal probity of its ruling elites.

At least Miami Beach is letting past experience guide policy:

Hey Spring Break, we're over. 👋 #SpringBreakUphttps://t.co/CjCyrLwkPD pic.twitter.com/vxmVtxd7MO

— City of Miami Beach (@MiamiBeachNews) March 1, 2024

He got ratioed to the moon and back. Even Community Notes got involved.

https://twitchy.com/gordon-k/2024/03/04/urine-luck-keith-olbermann-is-pissed-and-its-golden-n2393602

Steve stopped caring about Covid or Vax data as soon as it failed to support the official Narrative. But it would be a simple problem to solve if only the existing data were made available.

I assume Steve “stopped caring about Covid”–same as everyone else–because it evolved in late 2021 into pretty much a routine respiratory infection, which most people have some sort of prior exposure to from infection or vax.

The vax issue is interesting. My position for a long time was essentially yeah, the vax is bad, but it’s because the spike protein is bad. I.e. the complications some people get from the vax are just “moving up in time” complications they would later get from infection. (More or less assuming everyone’s eventually going to get it.) But the vax should be less bad, then getting an infection where the virus self-replicates a few orders of magnitude more.

However, I think there’s evidence that more than that is going on. That the mRNA thing does not “turn off” properly, but goes haywire in some people. Or there are bad batches with contamination that pumps out other junk. Or the something else with the mRNA machinery. Or something else.

The whole thing badly needs a vigorous airing out, as you note. But that requires getting the “big data” where everyone can be sorted demographically and by all the vax / covid-infection combinations–and really perturbations (i.e. including ordering).

But now, of course, this is highly politicized, because the establishment–in America once Trump was gone–went all in with the vax, and vax totalitarianism. So when a verdict comes down–certainly that the vax saved lives in 2021, but also quite possibly that overall it is just a shitty vax that people should not take and we should have developed something else (protein subunit?)–that would be a huge blow to the establishment’s credibility. So, they really don’t want to see any studies questioning the received wisdom.

Unlike crime or driving stats. Steve does not have the data to determinatively figure that out. And for the data available, there are a whole brigades of vax-skeptics ready to jump in and parse what’s there. Unlike crime/driving stuff where Steve was the most prominent voice displaying the data and crying foul on the establishment’s criminal folly.

Many such cases, but Olbermann is an example of someone who has trouble everywhere he goes, I cannot bring himself to consider he may be at least part of the problem. I don’t even think it is a problem of people close to him being unwilling to tell him he is the problem. He just refuses to adjust his tactics.

OT — Here’s a little data I did not know (if true, then big): apparently when you get appointed to be the guy in charge of immigration at the federal level, you do not need to resign your position as boardmember of an immigration advocacy lobbyist organization. Kind of like legislators with dual citizenship voting to send money to their second country.

Unless I’ve just missed it year after year, this very telling table never seems to get updated. Did someone lean on ETS to restrict access to the data?

Why did I forget inflation? It’s quite common in decaying empires, back to the days of coin adulteration.

I’ve been watching Dr. John since early February 2020.

That’s basically his evolution but there’s a few more points:

He bought into the selling of masks as ultra effective and promoted it, then it turned out to be not that effective.

He bought into the mRNA vaccines being 90%+ effective, durable and blocking transmission to other people.

He’s been hinting that nurses in UK care homes were euthanizing elderly patients with Valium early on in the pandemic. More recently I think he came out and explicitly stated that this was happening.

He’s been talking about the excess death rate for a year and a half and how no one is investigating it.

He’s recently started talking about the white fibrous clots that have been found in cadavers. He’s interviewed a couple of morticians, who seem to be the only people talking about it. He’s insistent that these clots are a new pathology. If some of the board doctors could review his videos and comment it would be appreciated.

Spike proteins being found all over the body, not just the injection site. Incorrect injection technique.

“And for the data available, there are a whole brigades of vax-skeptics ready to jump in and parse what’s there.”

It’s not just the vax-skeptics who are parsing, but since non-skeptics are crunching actual data (i.e. they’re not just “retired nurse educators” like this Dr. Campbell), and since their results don’t conform to the vax-skeptic narrative (i.e. you might say the data “racist” and so we can ignore it, or something like that, but as we know, only liberals are guilty of doing that), the results tend to get overlooked around here in favor of self-anointed Youtube medical experts:

A new study provides the most compelling data yet to suggest that excess mortality rates from chronic illnesses and other natural causes were actually driven by COVID-19 infections, disproving high-profile claims that have attributed these deaths to other factors such as COVID vaccinations and shelter-in-place policies.

Nearly 1,170,000 people have died from COVID-19 in the United States, according to official federal counts, but multiple excess mortality studies suggest that these totals are vastly undercounted. While excess mortality provides an estimation of deaths that likely would not have occurred under normal, non-pandemic conditions, there is still little evidence into whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus contributed to these additional deaths, or whether these deaths were caused by other factors such as health care disruptions or socioeconomic challenges.

Now, a new study led by Boston University School of Public Health (BUSPH) and the University of Pennsylvania (UPenn) provides the first concrete data showing that many of these excess deaths were indeed uncounted COVID-19 deaths.

But hey, I get it. The data racistly refuses to conform to the preferred narrative, and so we can just shout it down, depending on which echo chamber we choose to dwell in, and pretend it’s the other side that refuses to accept reality.

He did a 180 sometime in 2022-23, ending up at “Another respiratory virus threatening the vulnerable, rushed vaccines have side effects, massive Public Health fail.”

I only knew of him back in 2020 as someone who was a good faith chronicler of the data but who was giving the authorities credit. And then last year I saw one of his posts and realized that he had become “red pilled.” He still just trawls through studies and data releases. But now he’s convinced the authorities were all wrong and that they are manipulating and hiding the relevant data.

So I can’t say exactly when and how he evolved. I am guessing it was a slow process rather than a sudden epiphany. I doubt there is one episode where he has, or summarizes, his damascene moment.

However, I get the impression that the obvious suppression of free speech and gaslighting is what has really disillusioned him.

Frankly, this is the huge blind spot of Steve’s that I find bizarre and sometimes complain about. He’ll drill into data about black COVID mortality or whatever. But then it turns out COVID was deliberately engineered in a lab and that a dangerous experimental vaccine was given to half the world ‘s population. And when all of this is covered up by official propaganda and censorship, he finds that totally uninteresting.

I guess he’s trying so hard not to be labeled a “conspiracy theorist” that he overcorrects. He’s entitled to be interested in whatever he wants, but I find his selective interests puzzling.

Some data on the covid vaxx do slip out even in the YUK:

4x Vaccinated Youth 318% More Likely to Die Than Unvaxxed Peers, Office for National Statistics Confirms

https://davidicke.com/2024/03/04/4x-vaccinated-youth-318-more-likely-to-die-than-unvaxxed-peers-office-for-national-statistics-confirms/

In other news. Vicky Nuland has resigned in order to spend more time at home eating cookies.

Almost anybody who has a health crisis that scares the bejeezus out of ’em tends to put a really huge amount of faith in their doctors during and after. Healthy people with 100% trust in the medical industry is the exception and it might even be approaching a universal that you can infer a person’s health quotient by their opinion on the stupid experimental genetic medicine.

I saw this just this morning and it almost blew my mind.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/03/links-3-5-2024.html#comment-4006769

Nine injections! Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye aye.

HA, you’re a pro-vax partisan (like the whole establishment). But that’s fine. As long as partisans argue in good faith and stick to data, the truth can come out.

The study you cite argues that if natural cause death rates rose just before or during COVID infection spikes, those deaths should be assumed to have been caused by COVID. Okay, fine.

But if you buy that logic, you would also have to accept that the rise in natural cause deaths after receiving the vax can be attributed to the vax. If presented with that data, however, you (and these researchers) would probably start sputtering about how “correlation isn’t causation.”

What is really insidious, however, is that the government is hiding the data to match up vax dates and deaths. That’s not good faith. You guys are stacking the deck (as usual).

OT — Uht-oh.

Old people getting the Baltics and Balkans confused?

Weird. Larov is no spring chicken but never makes such an egregious geographical error. Putin is no spring chicken but never makes such an egregious geographical error. Someone in a position where war is at stake should no more make an error like this than they should with their own name.

“Cut the blue wire… now!”

Can old people with such brains faulty brains be trusted when war is a consequence? Can they be trusted when any error could lead to thermonuclear war and the end of civilization??

Hypno, I am out of reactions, but

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As someone who works in this general area, in mid-2020 I judged that it would be “impossible” to compress the usual 10-12 year vaccine development cycle (lab bench to doctor’s office) to two or fewer years.

I was obviously proven wrong, in that Covid vaccines were going into arms by Christmas 2020, only ~10 months after the threat of Covid-19 became evident in the West.

Not so obviously, vaccines that gain BLAs from the FDA (and similar clearances from other regulatory agencies) must demonstrate their safety and efficacy through a series of extensive, lengthy, and expensive clinical trials, followed by a cautious and sophisticated program of data analysis. So it was indeed “impossible” to deliver proven first-world level safety and efficacy in such a short time.

The EUA (Emergency Use) standard is much lower than the BLA standard described above.

Everybody who supported vaccine-development crash programs was betting on some combination of (1) the new mRNA tech being better and safer as well as faster, (2) adopting the pragmatic standard of “vaccines will lower morbidity and mortality to a deadly new virus, compared to the no-vaccines alternative,” and (3) being lucky. I don’t recall a lot of discussion of these issues, so most of this attitude was implicit.

My post hoc judgement is that the “Operation Warp Speed” and similar initiatives generally delivered significant successes on these three points. The key word being “generally.” In particular, it was clear early on that Covid-19 caused high mortality among people who were old or unhealthy — the older, the worse, the unhealthier, the worse, the combination being worst of all. And conversely, the risk to healthy and young or middle-age people was on the same order as seasonal flu.

Vaccines with “EUA levels” of safety and efficacy were boons to vulnerable populations, preventing many hospitalizations and saving many lives. The same shots could cause more problems than they solved in low-risk populations, given the modest potential gains to be had in averting seasonal-flu-level illness and death.

“Protect the vulnerable” (The Great Barrington Declaration) was the road not taken, although it was always the prudent policy choice.

I’ve limited this comment to morbidity and mortality, although other issues (personal autonomy, the dirigiste Public Health mindset, Bad Science, money, hardball politics, etc.) also loom large.

“I assume Steve “stopped caring about Covid”–same as everyone else–because it evolved in late 2021 into pretty much a routine respiratory infection, which most people have some sort of prior exposure to from infection or vax.”

Did it ever occur to you that the reason you enjoy engaging with Jag D so much is because you guys are basically the same dishonest, gaslighting person.

“ What will America’s Chernobyl be?”

It will start the night of the election when Trump is declared the winner. Which they are going to allow (he actually will win, of course, just like last time). Immediately following will begin the migrant riots. Which is why millions upon millions have been let in and flown to every city, town and hamlet in America. Feds and antifa will be on the ground in the larger cities stirring the pot. The usual blacks will of course join in the fun and the looting, adding to the mayhem. Reparations! Justice!

Because Trump won’t be President yet, it will allow Biden to declare a state of emergency and martial law. Trump will be arrested for “inciting riots” (baloney, but doesn’t matter). Massive restrictions on movement and speech will be imposed, the internet censored. The election results will be suspended, permanently.

Biden (if he’s still kicking) will resign, Newsom will take over (doesn’t need a Constitutional mechanism because the Constitution will no longer be in force). Full Soviet style, one party tyranny will descend on America. That’s it, that’s the storyline.

OT — Is this true?

The watermelon is a symbol of Palestinians’ public expression in protests and artworks, representing the struggle against the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories.[1][2][3][4][5]

The Palestinian flag, coloured in the Pan-Arab colors of red, green, white and black, has historically been banned at times in Israel, leading to the locally-grown and similarly-coloured watermelon taking its place in Palestinian iconography as an alternative for decades.[6] Following the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel banned the display of the Palestinian flag and its colours in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, and annexed East Jerusalem, with the Israeli army arresting anyone who displayed it.[7][8]

In 1993, as part of the Oslo Accords, Israel lifted the ban on the Palestinian flag.[9] At the time, The New York Times claimed “young men were once arrested for carrying sliced watermelons”,[10] but Palestinian artist Sliman Mansour has cast doubt on the validity of these claims. He remembers a conversation about it, but does not recall any actual watermelon iconography being used until 2007, when Khaled Hourani created an image for a “Subjective Atlas of Palestine” project. Other artists who have used the watermelon include Sarah Hatahet, Sami Boukhari, Aya Mobaydeen and Beesan Arafat.[11]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon_(Palestinian_symbol)

In particular, it was clear early on that Covid-19 caused high mortality among people who were old or unhealthy — the older, the worse, the unhealthier, the worse, the combination being worst of all.

Was it? Or were most people who died early on actually killed by terrible healthcare procedures which hospitals did in droves because they got huge amounts of money for it?

https://annecantstandit.substack.com/p/what-the-nurses-saw

I was obviously proven wrong, in that Covid vaccines were going into arms by Christmas 2020, only ~10 months after the threat of Covid-19 became evident in the West.

Something was going into their arms. and whatever it was was not effective in stopping infection, preventing transmission of infection or preventing death from infection.
Some Vaccine.

You also seem to believe the numbers produced that equate died “with” Covid with died “of” Covid,
You can’t have forgotten that deaths within 3 weeks following a positive test (And the tests were bullshit)
were deemed Covid deaths.

HA, I take work from the “public health” people very skeptically. No matter how anyone stands on the vaccine quality issue, those people became a highly politicized–another highly feminized joke–field long ago (ex. gun violence politicking). And that they proved themselves utterly incompetent and useless during the pandemic is something anyone intelligent and fair minded would agree on. An embarrassing performance.

This paper is only modestly related to the “how good/bad is the vax” issue–and in no sense “proves” anything related to that question.

And yet …

Nearly 1,170,000 people have died from COVID-19 in the United States, according to official federal counts, but multiple excess mortality studies suggest that these totals are vastly undercounted

you’ve managed–whether you are simply deeply clueless or deeply credulous–to highlight the one line in the article “vastly undercounted” which is obvious bullshit.

Anyone even vaguely familiar with the data knows there were about 400-500k excess deaths in both 2020 and 2021 and they were pretty much all (90%ish) tagged Covid deaths. Then the excess drops by a couple hundred thousand in 2022. No “vastly undercounted” is remotely possible. It’s hype.

Somewhere in the article they get around to saying that–1.2 million excess deaths in the study period, 163k not tagged “Covid”. Then they do the time/geography analysis and decide that the excess deaths line up pretty well with Covid peaks–or a month prior to Covid peaks!–and so are Covid deaths. And then that the gaps are bigger in (bad) rural/Republican areas and smaller (and even negative) in (good) urban/Democrat areas and so lockdowns and masking were great! .(???) A more straightforward take would be Covid deaths were likely modestly undercounted in rural/red areas and slightly over-counted in urban/blue areas.

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Back to reality, there’s things we actually know–have solid data for:
— Covid killed a bunch of people, an extra 400-500k in both 2020 and 2021–mostly skewing older/health compromised
— The vax saved a bunch of people’s lives in 2021, especially during the Delta wave.
— But the vax causes heart/circulatory issues in some number of people. (That shows up in the original Pfizer/Moderna data–the vax arm actually fares worse health wise than the placebo arm. And seems to continue to show up in a lot of post-vax complications.)
— Covid mutated to be more infectious but much less virulent with the Omicron variants. (The death data, ER docs experience, even the absence of classic covid symptoms all point in the same direction–a different less lethal beast.)
— Some minority of people seem to have post-Covid and post-vax issues.
— Excess deaths continue to be running high, even here 3-4 years later.

Carefully parsing the patient data to see what’s going on–including in what demos the vax is helpful or not and if we should instead have a different vax–is something intelligent, conscientious people would want to do.

the usual 10-12 year vaccine development cycle

Unless they already had a “vaccine”……..they were war-gaming a corona virus pandemic a couple of months before the out break……..so much is fishy and why not ,we live in a sea of lies.

Did it ever occur to you that the reason you enjoy engaging with Jag D so much is because you guys are basically the same dishonest, gaslighting person.

Nope. Never crossed my mind.

“I assume Steve “stopped caring about Covid”–same as everyone else–because it evolved in late 2021 into pretty much a routine respiratory infection, which most people have some sort of prior exposure to from infection or vax.”

Thousands of front line medical folks tell the same story–ER rooms full of classic covid cases on ventilators and many dying in 2020 and on into 2021; but with Omicron just no longer the same thing and just not very lethal.

For the 10th or so time, here’s American death data for the past decade. It is chucking along gaining on average about 50k or so a year as the big Boomer cohorts climb into the “death zone” and the population ages. Then … covid. Then … back down again.

Empiricism. It’s good for you.

2009 — 2,437,163
2010 — 2,468,435
2011 — 2,515,458
2012 — 2,543,279
2013 — 2,596,993
2014 — 2,626,418
2015 — 2,712,630
2016 — 2,744,248
2017 — 2,813,503
2018 — 2,839,205
2019 — 2,854,838
2020 — 3,383,729
2021 — 3,458,697
2022 — 3,273,705

Bill, the issue here–like with so much of anti-vax stuff–is that the data does not actually back up the big bold anti-vax headline.

If you look at the data, the “non-vaxed” are not the lowest death cohort. That’s actually the triple vaxed! (LOL.) It’s just that the quadruple vaxed are a disaster.

The most obvious explanations here would be either:
— there is really something terrible about the fourth vaccine dose
or–and much more likely–
— the quadruple vaxed population is different somehow … perhaps containing the sickest, most immuno-compromised people, precisely the only sort of people likely to die young of natural causes

“HA,… As long as partisans argue in good faith and stick to data, the truth can come out.”

If the covid truthers think arguing in good faith and sticking to data is such good advice, they might want to try it some time. I’m not holding my breath.

“What is really insidious, however, is that the government is hiding the data to match up vax dates and deaths.”

What is insidious about this is the fact that math-illiterate conspiracy theorists (like you, given that you — as previously noted in an earlier thread — started disputing excess death calculations without even bothering to figure out what they are) keep repeating this bald-faced lie. Actually, there are few public health issues in recorded history where the data has NOT been as publicly available as it has been for COVID. I’m talking gigs of tables, graphs and numbers, just there for the perusing. The researchers in the paper are not high priests of the CDC inner sanctum — they’re just statisticians from UPenn and Boston University . Drop them a line if you doubt me. (On second thought, don’t bother. They’ve probably received enough death threats already.)

Or else — and I know this is a mind-blowing concept for the likes of you — read the actual study. I.e., spend LESS time harvesting and reposting cherry-picked tendentiousness from retired nurse educators on Youtube, and learn how to deal with data, big and small, like those statisticians did. Entire course curricula are devoted to the topic, some of them online, but all of them that are worth a dime require painstaking effort and attention to detail that is far more difficult than spouting conspiracy memes at unz-dot-com. If you had any backbone and gray matter, you’d take one of those courses. Will you up to the challenge any time soon? Again, I’m not holding my breath.

From the cited study:

The CDC WONDER online database query system found at https://wonder.cdc.gov/ was used to extract all mortality data used in this project.

Did you get that? Do you know what the word “all” means? Do you need help in understanding how to click the links and get to the study in question, or is even that too difficult? Or are you too spineless to admit that you’ve just been busted?

I actually went to that site, expecting to have to sacrifice a goat to some Sumerian deity, or flash an academic-purity certificate, or exchange some chat-line banter about how I attended a bar mitzvah last week and hung out with all my friends, so that they’d get the hint-hint as to who I’m connected with. At the very least, I thought I’d have to create an online account and maybe submit a blood test, fingerprints, and maybe a snippet of foreskin, to some federal database.

Amazingly, it turns out none of that was necessary — you don’t even need to log in (which means, of course, that your ISP has already harvested that stuff and turned it over to the feds long ago, but I digress.) So go and do what they did. Replicate every single datapoint in their study, and THEN come complain that that’s impossible because the data was actually locked away by Sasquatch in Area 51 alongside the box with ET’s body parts and the little GI Joe figurine they used in that footage of the faked moon landing. Maybe as a start, track down the link to the actual study, and click the “download a couple of megs of pdfs” download link and track down the above quote, instead of pretending I just made it up.

The last time you made this claim about not linking vax/COVID deaths, I cited you another study that specifically stated that their results “were reported from 25 state and local health departments that routinely link case surveillance to vaccination data from immunization registries.” Did you contact any of the researchers in that study to see if they can let you see the data, or find out if it was maybe submitted to that site (or else, even referenced in the footnotes)? Of course you didn’t! Why? Because you’re a conspiracy theorist stooge who would rather whine on Unz-dot-com than do anything worthwhile in life.

That being the case, it’s way past time to accept that — as is evidenced from idiotic claims like the one you just made and the resultant egg that is now on your face — you and those like you lost this argument a long time ago, not because you didn’t have the data, but because you were too stupid and lazy to do anything except whine about it and project your idiocy and venality onto others.

Old people getting the Baltics and Balkans confused?

Must be basketball fans. Baltic Lithuania and Balkan Croatia had a corner on the “tall white guy” market for a while. They worried the Dream Team. Imagine losing to a country with the population of Chicago.

“I’ve reported dozens of times . . .”

“Reporting” publicly available data is one thing, critically analyzing it is another. Your Tweet (not an Unz post) basically asserts without analysis that excess deaths beginning in July 2021 were due to a wave of COVID rather than the wave of vaccinations that occurred at that exact time. Maybe that’s true, maybe it isn’t.

But it seems like an interesting and worthy topic for data analysis. If only the government would release the data to pair vax dates and health outcomes we could figure it out. Do you agree?

Yes, I can’t remember ever seeing Olbermann on anyone else’s TV show or podcast and no one with a reputation to maintain ever interacts with him on social media. He’s obviously made himself un-handshake-able.

“The most obvious explanations here…. the quadruple vaxed population is different somehow … perhaps containing the sickest, most immuno-compromised people, precisely the only sort of people likely to die young of natural causes”

Exactly . We saw this before, with flu vaccines, and the anti-vaxxers still try and make hay of it. It turns out that kids who are vaccinated against the regular flu are three times as likely to be subsequently hospitalized with the flu. “Gotcha”, cried the anti-vaxxers! “We were right all along!” But not so fast — a much larger study a few years later (which anti-vaxxers tend to ignore for some reason) verified what the doctors were saying at the time about why the earlier study was misleading. It turned out that most of the kids who take flu shots are kids with asthma and other complications that make flu a deadly threat, and even though they’re still more likely than “average” kids to wind up in the hospital, they’re better off than the kids who have the same complications who don’t get the vaccine.

We saw this with COVID too. An early study of kids (search on Martina Patone of Oxford) who took the vaccine (who, again, tended to have asthma and diabetes at greater rates, so that their doctors urged them to get a shot), indicated that male teens had higher myocarditis risk from vaccines than what was observed with those who got COVID without the vax (who were on average less likely to have those complications), and this caused a lot of concern at the time. But the later drug trials, which are required to have properly vetted control groups, weren’t skewed, and therefore didn’t show this, which is why the COVID shot was approved even for younger males.

Is Daniel Cohn-Bendit now a NATO supporter? If so, that’s quite a political trajectory since 1968.

The billionaire elite are all in on cultural marxism , foundations , endowments ,NGOs, blah ,blah blah, they get to keep their money and be well thought of ……….if John D. and J.P. only knew.

You can’t have forgotten that deaths within 3 weeks following a positive test (And the tests were bullshit)
were deemed Covid deaths.

Even worse than that, they counted vaccinated people as “unvaccinated” for three weeks after they received the shot. (On the pretext that it took that long for the vax to confer protection). So if the Vax side effects killed someone within three weeks (exactly when you’d expect it to happen), they count the death in the “unvaccinated” column. They literally moved vaccine deaths into the non-vaccine column and then said “look how much better the vaccinated column looks” (which it really wasn’t anyway).

They also rigged the definition of COVID deaths. Before the vax rollout, they famously counted deaths “with” COVID. After the vax rollout they needed to show COVID deaths going down to prove the vax worked, so they changed the definition to “because of COVID,” and voila! COVID deaths plummeted (but excess deaths stayed mysteriously elevated).

The gaslighting and data rigging is off the charts.

“If only the government would release the data to pair vax dates and health outcomes we could figure it out. “

Let me repeat this from my earlier comment, because you’re obviously a little slow on the uptake — the data I told you about earlier that was used to compare myocarditis risk between unvaxxed and vaxxed COVID populations “were reported from 25 state and local health departments that routinely link case surveillance to vaccination data from immunization registries.”

Can you understand what it means to link case surveillance to vaccination data from immunization registries, or that just more nein-sprechen-sie-Dutchie-‘pon-da-left-hand-side word salad to you?

Did you go through the list of sources published in the paper itself?” Maybe contacted one of the researchers to see if they dumped their raw data anywhere? Did you go through that wonder.cdc website? Or else — let me take a wild guess — did you just continue whine about how the government doesn’t give you even more data to ignore, as you sit back and whine about not having enough data?

So what do we have to do? Make a Youtube video with shadow-puppets and glitter so that you’ll finally get it? Help us out here. Obviously some people are bothering to access the data that has been made available, and are even writing reports about it. You, on the other hand, without showing any evidence of being able to access or work with data in the first place, continue your sad Eeyore routine about how the government isn’t doing more for you.

Pewitt also accused the Obama administration of flooding public schools with 1 million third-world immigrants a year. “Why should good native-born Manchester kids have to suffer for that?” he yelled at the teachers.

https://www.unionleader.com/news/education/on-bus-teacher-group-sees-obamas-policies-as-far-superior-to-romneys/article_ec2e9e2b-a486-5e93-bf0b-fe42c4128392.html

I say:

I love teachers’ unions and teachers and public schools — some of them, some of the time, the ones that are lovable — at least, BUT, the teachers’ unions motivation for pushing education-harming mass legal immigration, mass illegal immigration, REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION should be a political issue at every level of government.

Now I’ll be politically provocative and perhaps overly blunt to make a point about the harmful effects of mass legal immigration, mass illegal immigration, REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION on public schools and native-born public school students:

Teachers’ unions have lots of greedy government workers who love mass legal immigration, mass illegal immigration, REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION because it increases demand for their services. White parents who are not low IQ morons do not want their kids to go to schools that are inundated with non-White kids. Somethings got to give.

The Patriotic portion of the Republican Party Corporation must increase its vote share of Whites who want their kids to go to schools with mostly White kids. There are simply more White parents than there are greedy government workers who infest the teachers’ unions. Unfortunately, there are a lot of White construction workers and White construction company owners who make big bucks building public schools to meet the demand created by mass legal immigration, mass illegal immigration, REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION. This one is a hard political wedge to figure out.

It all comes back to White women who see that mass legal immigration, mass illegal immigration, REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION swamps schools and threatens the education of their own kids. This the issue that the Patriotic portion of the Republican Party Corporation could use to win over even more of the White women vote. It will be unpleasant politically demonizing some of the White women and White men who make their living from the education industry — either as school staff or in school construction — but it must be done.

Tweet from 2015:

@AnnCoulter Jeb Bush pushes mass #immigration. Mass immigration causes wage stagnation, increases housing costs & swamps schools.#nhpolitics

— Charles Pewitt (@CharlesPewitt) June 8, 2015

First documented destruction of the HIMARS MLRS

The footage was published by the Kremlin media. This is the first visually confirmed fact of the defeat of HIMARS during the entire war. The combat system has shown honorable results in the war and continues to destroy the… pic.twitter.com/ZADU96Lq5L

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 5, 2024

BREAKING:

Ukraine releases video confirming it sunk the Russian 92-meter-long large patrol boat Sergei Kotov last night near Crimea.

The video shows the boat being hit by Ukrainian naval drones.

Another huge blow for the Russian Black Sea Fleet! pic.twitter.com/tjCYnoB6Xq

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) March 5, 2024

Possibly the first footage of the strike against the Russian patrol ship “Sergey Kotov” (project 22160) last night.

The Kerch Bridge has been closed for 9h already. According to Telegram channel “Crimean Wind” it needs to be “investigated”. pic.twitter.com/N56jyN6gAI

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) March 5, 2024

Exactly where in the UK do you reside Mr. Pewitt?

I say:

The UK must be abolished immediately! ENGLAND goes it alone with a watchful eye on the Celtic periphery and especially those sneaky scone-eating crackpots in Cornwall.

Abolish the UK; ENGLAND all the way!

I live in the USA and I’ve been to Canada twice. Montreal was nice; French all around the place; and it was civilized in comparison with parts of New York City.

The English ruling class is just as evil as the ruling class of the American Empire.

Thankfully, the ruling classes in both England and the United States will soon be removed from power.

HA, it’s really pointless to respond to your low-IQ invective since you can’t actually understand the things you are talking about. For example, the issue is not the quantity of data available but the quality. As I made crystal clear, evaluating the safety and efficacy of the vax requires the release of the data to match individuals vax dates with deaths. If you believe this data exists, please cite to it or STFU.

This clip is now even funnier.

Massive irretrievable data loss is now state policy.

You should write to the judge who presided over the Steyn case. She somehow decided that, so long as Penn St. agreed to overlook it, the fact you mention was impotent to prevent a defamation judgment.

compare myocarditis risk between unvaxxed and vaxxed COVID populations

HA — As always, you are unable to understand the issue. It’s not comparing the aggregate populations of vaxxed and unvaxed. There are too many confounding variables and differences in those two populations.

Instead, the proper way to analyze the question is to determine the statistical effect on individuals (all other factors held equal) from receiving the vax.

Ah, but do they salt it?

It turned out that most of the kids who take flu shots are kids with asthma and other complications

HA – You don’t realize it but you are slowly red pilling yourself. You just admitted that it’s invalid to compare the aggregate outcomes of vaxed ad unvaxed population because there are confounding differences in who gets the flu vax. But your whole argument in favor of the COVID vax is based on the identical method of comparing aggregate outcomes in vaxxed and unvaxxed populations — i.e., the exact methodology that you reject in the context of the flu vax.

In both cases, you need to compare outcomes of individuals based on their individual vaccination dates, holding all other variables constant. That’s the data being withheld.

I know it’s hard — but try to connect the two dots that you have set out yourself. You’re almost there, reality awaits.

“Did someone lean on ETS to restrict access to the data?”

I think you may be correct. If I am not mistaken, I thought that Steve Sailer himself wrote about this, but my memory could be wrong.

“As I made crystal clear, evaluating the safety and efficacy of the vax requires the release of the data to match individuals vax dates with deaths. If you believe this data exists, please cite to it

What, two comments wasn’t enough? I gave you the study, which contains helpful footnotes and links. If you’re too math-illiterate or lazy to click on them, let alone understand what they mean, stop pretending that dumping even more data, or magically waving a wand and rendering you able to deal with data is something they need to concern themselves with at this point.

i.e. I think I see what’s happening here:

1) Argue there’s no data.

2) Argue that, OK, the data may be there, but it’s corrupted or doctored, or requires “effort”.

3) Admit that you’re too much of an idiot to make sense of the data in the first place, so never mind.

Alas, in this case, two out of three is pretty bad indeed. So take the “L” and pipe down. I realize you’re hoping the CDC will one day provide you with information that will allow you to stalk all the women who dismissed you in high-school as a perpetual whiner, but that ain’t happening. This is as loony as the nutjob who agrees with you because he similarly enjoys whining that the government needs to provide broader access to the quack cures he didn’t bother with even when they were readily available (e.g. vitamin supplements and “cheap patent steroids”).

I can remember when he was so obsessive about COVID and vaccine issues that nobody here could stand it any more (It was much worse than black traffic statistics). But now he couldn’t care less what actually happened or why. What do you think about this? What’s your theory?

a. COVID is old news. Those who were “right” about it like to pile that on, but such bragging gets repetitive and tiresome. True Covidians never give up so there’s no point in trying to present facts to them.

b.I am old enough to remember the late 80s when right wingers were obsessed with the Panama Canal Treaty. Really a big deal. No one cares about that any more either. And no, China doesn’t control it either.

c. Steve presents mostly current topics of interest to him. If someone (like yourself) wants to write a history of the COVID panic, they can. I think some books are already out. I doubt that bookstores have run low on them yet.

Courtesy of the “Maverick” John McCain.

Which is why the Vietnamese erected a statue to him: He claimed more American dead than any of theirs.

“But your whole argument in favor of the COVID vax is based on the identical method of comparing aggregate outcomes in vaxxed and unvaxxed populations “

No, it’s not the whole argument — there’s a wealth of other data you have at your disposal, but you’ve shown no willingness to access any of it. And I’ve noted before that raw comparisons between vaxxed and unvaxxed are problematic precisely because people who don’t bother to get vaxxed are more likely to do lots of other health-averse things — drinking, drugs, risky sex, not wearing seat belts. That definitely skews things to where we can’t assume that all of the differential in death rates is due to vaccination. But in each case, you work with the data that you have and go from there. Even in the study I cited at the top, the UPenn/BU statisticians point out that there are some scattered regions (more so in certain parts of the country) where there were MORE deaths from COVID than excess deaths and the researchers can only offer some guesses, and no hard answers, as to what is causing that — e.g. the shut downs maybe reduced flu and other infectious-disease deaths from prior years, which helped push the excess death curves lower than otherwise, even as COVID pushed in the other direction, and disentangling those effects requires more work. There’s always gong to be noise and room for legitimate criticism. But that doesn’t mean that innumerate idiots like you get to carp about things they never even bothered to learn without getting raked over the coals.

Old people getting the Baltics and Balkans confused?

Aren’t these just properties on the Monopoly board?

“Baltic Avenue”?

If you draw a “Balkans” card, it means you have to hate the other players who own the adjacent properties for the next 50 turns and try to burn their money piles. Not a popular draw.

On the other hand, if you land on and buy “New York Avenue” everyone assumes you’re Jewish and starts telling bad Holocaust jokes. But you can secretly buy up other properties cheaply and win the game. But if you then draw the “Go to Tel Aviv quickly, do not pass Go, leave all your money behind” card, then you forfeit and are out of the game. New York Ave.can be a good property to own but you end up with a lot of haters conspiring against you.

At least this is how an old Boomer remembers the game…

If he has (and he likely has) then he’d be following in the footsteps of another 68er, Joschka Fischer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joschka_Fischer

He legitimately belongs in a mental asylum. Absolutely out to lunch.

“Nope. Never crossed my mind.”

Well then, you’re welcome.

“For the 10th or so time, here’s American death data for the past decade. It is chucking along gaining on average about 50k or so a year as the big Boomer cohorts climb into the “death zone” and the population ages. Then … covid. Then … back down again.”

Thank you for illustrating perfectly your dishonest nature AnotherJag. Nobody on the side of reason (that would not be you, in case you’re confused) claimed excess deaths didn’t increase, but what was the real cause? Lockdowns? Summer of Floyd and all the related peripherals? Drug overdoses? You single metric isn’t empirical, it’s an absolute distortion of the truth.

How many covid deaths among people under the age of 25 with zero comorbidities? Crickets

What caused all the excess deaths in older people? Was it things like Governor Cuomo ordering all the sick people into nursing homes and the ventilators themselves? Was it the outlawing of cheap and available treatments? Was it all the older sick people who were terrified to go to the hospital and thus died of other causes?

Yes, it was all of those things.

Look, I’m also tired of rehashing all of the same points and debunking all the same old nonsense from you lockdown liars.

Take a few days and read over the exhaustive data that Hail had disseminated during and after the scam. Start here for some perspective on your excess deaths:

https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2020/11/29/against-the-corona-panic-part-xix-wuhan-corona-vs-previous-flu-waves-sweden-quantified-on-near-final-data-for-2020/

His speech didn’t directly incite violence but I’m not that upset about this at all. We need smart nationalists and I’m not going to stop these low IQ clowns from feeding themselves into the system’s meat grinder.

There is no “small data”.

Only small data “noticers.”

On a side note, there has been a lot of “notice” about how the Chinese government has stopped releasing various kinds of economic data, formerly made available on a regular basis.

Just like Woke city crime data. If you stop releasing data about it, then it hasn’t occurred.

“Get with the 2020s, citizen!”

And there are plans to make Big Data (Amount of Crime in California)
even bigger.

California Is About to Get Even Worse

You might think that the leftists who run California would be worried about the rapid decline of that state, but no: they are doing all they can to accelerate it. In the Wall Street Journal, Heather Mac Donald outlines California’s latest descent into racialist madness:

It is hard to understand how there can be a political movement in favor of more crime, but there you have it. In California, that movement evidently represents the majority. If, for some reason, you still live in California, you should get out while you can.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/03/california-is-about-to-get-even-worse.php

people who don’t bother to get vaxxed are more likely to do lots of other health-averse things — drinking, drugs, risky sex, not wearing seat belts.

How do you arrive at this conclusion? Isn’t it just as reasonable to suppose that someone who does drugs and/or “risky sex” would take pains to vaccinate so that he doesn’t over-gamble? Do you really think most queers going bareback and using whatever to enhance/endure the experience can’t compartmentalize re Covid? BTW, I refused the vax precisely because I knew in the ‘80’s that CDC was lying to me about str8s’ exposure to HIV. Of course, I turned out to be right about that one. I don’t drink or use drugs, and I always wear my seat belt. What’s your opinion on milk thistle?

The irony is that in the future the best way to find anti-narrative data will be through data collected in the name of DEI. In NJ the state collects racial data for every school in every (545+) individual district for purposes of “equity,” but which is by far the most accurate data in the state.

“Instead, the proper way to analyze the question is to determine the statistical effect on individuals (all other factors held equal) from receiving the vax.”

Proper way according to who?

I qualify for dual citizenship but haven’t used it. I feel dual citizenship should be illegal. We should tack it on to still pending Titles of Nobility Amendment and make sure we don’t forfeit our rights to extradite such individuals for a crime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titles_of_Nobility_Amendment

You forgot about the penalty for a Chance Card that takes you to Kentucky Avenue—give a gift of $500 for attending the wedding of Mitch McConnell and his mystery meat bride. Of course, red lining was also highly prominent in the game.

The game of Monopoly is hidden propaganda for anti-whiteness.

Proper way according to who?

Proper according to the scientific method. You and HA should look into it sometime.

The 2024 version would have “Deep State,” “Corporate Media,” and “Big Tech” properties. If you manage to own all three of these all the other players have to give you all of their money and do whatever you say.

white fibrous clots

Uncontrolled nucleic acid replication isn’t good for you.

1) Argue there’s no data.

The data exists. The government won’t release it.

That’s great deflection on your part.

You made quite the loaded value statement here— “Instead, the proper way to analyze the question is to determine the statistical effect on individuals (all other factors held equal) from receiving the vax.”

Of course the approach you advocate here will employ the scientific method, just like the other studies you have questioned. But how do YOU know this is the proper way, i.e. to determine the statistical effect on individuals from receiving the vax” compared to other analyses of the problem?

Excess deaths are a simple proof of the Covid epidemic. The fudged it to make the Covid counts higher but still it was a large jump and the raw numbers are readily available.

I sort of hesitate to call it an example of Big Data because it’s glaring obvious. I think of Big Data as a more sophisticated analysis of the data. Unfortunately, they didn’t use Big Data to determine the suitability of whom to vaccinate based on risk. I am cautious and was never in favor of forcing the vaccine on anyone under forty. The authorities were willfully blind to the information they could command. We see the same course of action on Gender Affirming Care. In Brave New World the government was actually carried out on scientific principles. We are ending up with dystopian alternative along the lines of 1984 where Big Brother wears a dress.

“Even worse than that, they counted vaccinated people as ‘unvaccinated’ for three weeks after they received the shot. (On the pretext that it took that long for the vax to confer protection). So if the Vax side effects killed someone within three weeks (exactly when you’d expect it to happen), they count the death in the “unvaccinated” column.”

Who is “they” exactly? Kinda weird how you have all these demands for specific data when you yourself have trouble coughing up even a single link when it comes to verifying your own assertions.

In fact, the Patone Oxford study I mentioned specifically notes that

The exposure variables were a first, second, or booster dose of the ChAdOx1, BNT162b2, or mRNA-1273 vaccines, and SARS-CoV-2 infection, defined as the first SARS-CoV-2–positive test in the study period. All exposures were included in the same model. We defined the exposure risk intervals as the following prespecified time periods: 0, 1 to 7, 8 to 14, 15 to 21, and 22 to 28 days after each exposure date, under the assumption that the adverse events under consideration are unlikely to be related to exposure later than 28 days after exposure.

In other words, even if you got myocarditis the day of the shot (i.e. a time period 0 days), it got included in her study. This 3-week waiting period you speak of is nonsense, at least when it comes to these my0carditis comparisons. I doubt the protocols for all the other studies of this kind that were done did it any differently, but I will wait till you cough up a link, and I guess we’ll see then. Again, I’m not holding my breath.

In general, I find it weird that the same idiots who are the first to be outraged at the thought that anyone connected with the government is keeping their private information in a database somewhere are also the first to be outraged that this same data isn’t readily doled out when it was gathered from other people.

That is from the JBHE in 2009.
https://www.jbhe.com/latest/news/1-22-09/satgap.html

For context, here is an older (2003 data from a 2019 article, published on April 1 ; ) version.
https://johnmjennings.com/race-income-and-college-admission-testing/

Here is a newer graphic (2011), but it does not make comparison as easy. The good side is it includes more races.
https://resources.corwin.com/sites/default/files/singleton_2e_figure_3.2.pdf

I can’t find the table they reference: College-Bound Seniors 2010 and 2011, Total Group Profile Report—ETHNICITY (Table 11)

Unless I’ve just missed it year after year, this very telling table never seems to get updated. Did someone lean on ETS to restrict access to the data?

Besides the example I gave (and the original data for that seems to have disappeared) I think you are right.

Aren’t these just properties on the Monopoly board?

Illinois Avenue is no more.

“The data exists. The government won’t release it.”

The government did release it. I gave you research papers with links. Some of it has been archived since the data was published (unlike you, most people have managed to get on with life after COVID), so that a link like

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

which is referenced in the study I gave earlier https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm

is now archived (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#archived) so that it’s something like this

https://data.cdc.gov/Public-Health-Surveillance/Rates-of-COVID-19-Cases-or-Deaths-by-Age-Group-and/54ys-qyzm/about_data

And that’s frustrating, but that’s why it helps to actually go through this stuff when it’s published, not wait 2-3 years so that you can retcon it as something completely different.

There are also restrictions (e.g. you can’t publish anything unless it has been lumped into groups no less than 9 and other such weird HIPAA nonsense), but from what I see it’s still there. You’re probably better off just contacting a researcher and asking if they have it somewhere, but let’s be real, you won’t do that. It’s much easier just to keep lying about it. Even in the UK, you can get a github repository of the Patone study, as is specifically indicated there, but it’s been anonymized, and if you want the real deal, you have to be accredited, but the UK has stricter privacy laws than Americans do.

Achtung!

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/02/13/386000092/internet-pioneer-warns-our-era-could-become-the-digital-dark-ages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Maoism

“whether you are simply deeply clueless or deeply credulous–to highlight the one line in the article ‘vastly undercounted’ which is obvious bullsh!t.”

“Vastly undercounted” is also phrased as simply “many of these excess deaths were indeed uncounted COVID-19 deaths” in the same article, so go with the latter if that riles you less, or better yet, focus on what they mean by all that, which they go on to specify as follows:

They estimated that 1.2 million excess natural-cause deaths occurred in US counties during this time period, and found that roughly 163,000 of these deaths did not have COVID-19 listed at all on the death certificates.

Given that 163K is indeed a vast number, I don’t think this is anything to get too bent out of shape about, even if it’s really not that far off in percentage terms, which I’m guessing is why you’re getting upset by it. Yeah, it’s pretty sloppy for someone who prefers to think in terms of percentage error, but as research summaries in the popular press go, I’ve dealt with far worse. And feel free to go to the actual study (which uses “many” a dozen times, but avoids “vastly”). I don’t see anything particularly wrong with the study itself, but I didn’t get into it that deeply. It’s obviously not the only way to slice up the data, and I suspect other ways will yield different results.

Who is “they” exactly?

The CDC. It’s nice that this one study of Myocarditis in the UK apparently didn’t do that. But all the official CDC stats in the U.S. did it.

Campbell describes himself as a “retired nurse teacher.” Sure he’s an M.D.?

It is a rule to not reply to Corvinus but notice how on both iSteve and 4chan, shills do not understand what terms mean or how to use them. McConnell’s bride is far from “mystery meat.”

I am old enough to remember the late 80s when right wingers were obsessed with the Panama Canal Treaty.

And old enough to forget that was in the late 70s. Reagan debated Wm F Buckley on TV about it before he was Prez.

“Isn’t it just as reasonable to suppose that someone who does drugs and/or “risky sex” would take pains to vaccinate so that he doesn’t over-gamble?”

That’s not how it works in my experience, but your mileage may vary. In general, high-risk activities correlate pretty well, and if someone spends his days and nights strung out on meth (or Everclear&RedBull), he’s more than likely to overlook his COVID vaccination appointment as well. People who are “messed up” usually don’t compartmentalize.

Same with all the edgelords who plaster over their crybaby fear of a COVID needle with a tough-guy persona that is as fake as a bad combover — based on all the drunk-texting they engage in when it comes to their iSteve comments regarding COVID, it’s a tossup whether their organ failure be precipitated by alcohol or else from a spike protein.

I’ve linked to this graph dozens of times over the years and all I get back is sputtering rage:

Your link is to a collection of 13 “dashboards,” none of which graph COVID cases to excess deaths. There does seem to be a graph of total excess deaths that shows a massive spike coinciding with the vax rollout in Summer 2021.

How do you decide this spike in deaths is due to COVID (which most were already immune to) vs. the vax?

“But all the official CDC stats in the U.S. did it.”

You were saying?

Using VAERS to understand myocarditis associated with COVID-19 vaccination

Why was the study done? Heart inflammation, known as myocarditis, has been
previously associated with COVID-19 vaccination. After the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna,
and Janssen COVID-19 vaccines were given in the United States, millions of people
reported side effects, including myocarditis,…

Availability of data and materials

All data analyzed in this study is publicly available. The data can be obtained from: https://vaers.hhs.gov and https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data/tree/master/public/data

That’s all from the HHS. Say, what is the relationship between the CDC and the HHS? CDC is one of the major operating components of the Department of Health and Human Services.

And, oh, look — yet another UK study:

https://github.com/BHFDSC/CCU002_01

They haven’t changed, the establishment has.

“The irony is that in the future the best way to find anti-narrative data will be through data collected in the name of DEI.”

Someone else on this blog passed along a great example in another comment thread. (Thank you, sorry I don’t remember who.) This is a great map of granular census demographic data, indicating the racial breakdown in census tracts. (Better than the smeared out data published by the US Census Bureau itself, or at least what is readily available from THEIR website.) Incredibly useful for anyone contemplating moving to an unfamiliar city or town. Best irony is I used this information for probably the exact opposite of the purpose of whoever compiled it:

Justice Map: Visualize race and income for your community and country.

“I feel dual citizenship should be illegal.”

I agree. Dual citizenship was yet another gift inflicted on us by the Warren Court:

Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967)

(Ironically, the German word “Gift” means “poison” in English.)

This doesn’t address my point or the point Hail’s article makes. The excess deaths don’t justify the measures taken Steve-O, and there were no excess deaths among children.

You boomers should have just sheltered in place while the rest of us went about our lives.

Nobody has corrected me so I will correct myself. That was a hoax post that slipped through their moderation system.

Weird thing is it was kind of brushed off by Yves as something she would never say but it read spot on to me. They have people who do the moderation there and there was an employee who passed that piece. I suppose the person who posted it is proud of his self. : )

“How do you decide this spike in deaths is due to COVID (which most were already immune to) vs. the vax?”

You can start with the UPenn/BU study I initially cited, which shows that the excess coincide very well (less than 15%) to the reported number of COVID cases that county coroners issue. That’s still “vast” undercount of about 163K, but in percentage terms, it’s pretty good.

More to the point, the timing of how the excess deaths occurred — when compared with the time it takes for COVID to kill after testing positive (in those cases where it did that) — suggests that it was indeed COVID that did the deed, as opposed to idiotic grasping-at-straws handwaving about PCA criteria or how “older sick people who were terrified to go to the hospital and thus died of other causes” or how they were all motorcycle deaths that some Democrat coroner insisted was caused by COVID. No one denies that kind of stuff happened, and you’ll have to look hard through my comments to find any positive reference to the likes of Andrew Cuomo, given everything he did in the nursing homes, but the fact that those natural causes far outside NY occurred right when they did suggests that COVID was the likeliest killer.

One useful way of thinking about this is to notice that the people who blithely double their citizenship also say that the nation-state has had its day, that the border should be open, and that renting an outbase residence is preferable to home ownership. In other words, being a good citizen should be hard, and the type of person who agrees and does the hard work is probably the kind of neighbor you want anyway.

“there were no excess deaths among children.”

But there were plenty among the abuelitas and grandmas who those children infected, and whose loss meant a bunch of baby mommas had to either give up one of their shifts at the laundromat or dollar store to look after the kids (or more likely, fob off the chore of babysitting an infant onto some 6-yr-old brother and sister), all of which caused major disruption. I.e. unlike you, the rest of the world doesn’t live in a bubble of conspiracy memes, and people actually have to depend on one another.

I know you like to think lockdowns killed everyone, and don’t really care that the data doesn’t support that or your long list of other conspiracy memes, but that’s what comes from living in that little bubble. If you want to stay there, you won’t be missed, but next time, if you don’t have the know-how to crunch the data that’s out there so as to verify your loony memes, seek out some other hill to die on.

You: “What caused all the excess deaths in older people?”

Steve: “Covid”

You: “This doesn’t address my point .”

Oh, I think it does. You might not like the answer, but it addresses it just fine.

Whether all the public health measures that were taken (the lockdowns, the vax, the lockdown and vax of children, etc.) were necessary or effective or even counter-effective is another question. There was an invisible serial killer on the loose and people don’t always react rationally or correctly in panic situations. There is plenty of blame to be spread regarding the way that the society and the authorities reacted (we are not the people that we once were) but denying that there was a problem to begin with (“it’s just the flu, bro’) is idiotic.

There were very few excess deaths of children without co-morbidities but there were plenty of younger people WITH comorbidities (obesity, diabetes, etc.) that Covid DID kill.

> Campbell describes himself as a “retired nurse teacher.” Sure he’s an M.D.?

You’re right, my mistake. Wikipedia says he has a PhD in Nursing Education from the University of Bolton in the UK.

Smart nationalists who do what exactly, comment on unz articles? If you look at what the stickers said it’s understandable that he thought it wouldn’t be a problem. Even the judge said the stickers were legal.

The article must have been put together by an American, cos no Englishman would describe Pudsey as being ‘near Yorkshire’ even if it was near it, and not in it.

I know you like to think lockdowns killed everyone, and don’t really care that the data doesn’t support that or your long list of other conspiracy memes

The data supports the contention that the vast majority of “Covid” deaths were iatrogenic. This was discussed here already when a paper linked to by Steve admitted, in a very roundabout way, that people admitted to hospital and placed on ventilators died at an elevated rate irrespective of prior Covid diagnosis.

The Covid epidemic really ought to be called the ventilator and remdesivir epidemic, because that’s what did the actual killing. This, of course, is entirely consistent with deaths tracking 1-2 weeks after hospital admittance.

“I sort of hesitate to call it an example of Big Data because it’s glaring obvious.”

Not to the truthers. I see a link to the hailtoyou blog to this day, even though he was the jackass who was the first tell everyone that COVID was a nothing precisely because there was no change in the excess death curves (they didn’t start appearing until a few weeks later, due to delays in reporting and the time it took for the epidemic to spread), and then spent the rest of the epidemic trying to downplay his and everyone else’s lying eyes:

“Don’t look necessarily at the eye-catching ‘spikes,’ though they may be some interest.”

But yeah, he still has a following around here. Says a lot. Meanwhile,

A German man who voluntarily received 217 coronavirus jabs over 29 months showed “no signs” of having been infected with the virus that causes Covid-19 and had not suffered from any vaccine-related side effects, according to a study published in the medical journal Lancet Infectious Diseases.

No, if anyone is wondering, I haven’t been to Germany in some time. What’s that old chestnut about medication? Oh yeah: “According to European medical lore, the English and the Dutch prefer to take their medication in pill form, the Germans go for an injection and the French like…suppositories” So, this checks out. Speaking of which, I’m guessing any number of the truthers will be lining up for the vaxx, two hundred times over, once the suppository form is introduced. They just love the whole idea of it, and without repeatedly taking it the way they like to do, over and over, their sad Eeyore schtick would be even more pathetic.

“shills do not understand what terms mean or how to use them.”

Listen, you fit this to a T. “Anti-white“ can mean literally anything to anybody. It’s a punchline. To some people, it means absolutely no race mixing. AKA “mystery meat”. For others, you must completely support western civilization and all that it entails, lest you be considered a race traitor.

“The data supports the contention that the vast majority of “Covid” deaths were iatrogenic….that people admitted to hospital and placed on ventilators died..”

No, it does not — using big words like iatrogenic will not dig you out of this hole. Same goes for your pathetic attempt to retcon this into a debate about ventilators — observe that COVID deaths were occurring well into the second year, whereas doctors had by Apr 2020 already given up on ventilators for anyone but the sickest patients (who, having reached that dire stage, had no viable options apart from that very, very bad one):

Apr 8 2020: With ventilators running out, doctors say the machines are overused for Covid-19...Even as hospitals and governors raise the alarm about a shortage of ventilators, some critical care physicians are questioning the widespread use of the breathing machines for Covid-19 patients, saying that large numbers of patients could instead be treated with less intensive respiratory support.

Apr 9 2020: Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients

Apr 16 2020: Why Ventilators May Not Be Working as Well for COVID-19 Patients as Doctors Hoped

Apr 23 2020: Special Report: As virus advances, doctors rethink rush to ventilate...

Is that clear enough for you? Remember that story about Elon Musk sending ventilators? That was from MARCH of 2020. I know a Nietzschean fanboy like you loves the Elon Musks of the world — slavishly parroting his memes the way you do — and doing that again here, but let’s get another take:

Elon Musk’s claim that ventilators killed COVID-19 patients confuses correlation with causation… Flawed reasoning: Ventilators are only used on patients who are the most ill. As such, patients on ventilators have a greater risk of dying compared to patients who aren’t. Claiming that ventilators caused COVID-19 patients to die because a great many number of patients on ventilators die conflates correlation with causation.

The article is a detailed rundown of how the truthers are grasping at ventilators as their new rationale for explaining how they were somehow right all along, but it’s not going to work outside your little echo chamber. Too many people were paying attention. The fact that someone like Mike Tre needs the likes of you to try and rehabilitate his finger-pointing tells us all we need to know about how desperate the truthers are for white knights, but sorry, Wittkowski is still out, and Berenson and Malone are still disgraced, and don’t try rehabilitating Hail either, him and his “eye-catching spikes”. Do better.

So, it seems clear that once Trump loses (or runs out his 2nd term), the fanboys are going to start worshipping Musk as their new messiah, am I right? Good thing he was born in South Africa and ineligible for the presidency, but I guess he might try paying off enough lawmakers to get that changed, which would be especially ironic given how convinced Trump was that Obama was born in Kenya, but then, no one ever accused him and his followers of being consistent. The rules only apply to other people.

Remdesivir was ineffective. Studies showed it reduced the duration of the disease but not really the death rate. However, unlike something like HCQ or Ivermectin, it was a patented drug instead of an expired patent drug so they could charge three thousand dollars for it. It was also given intravenously so you could keep patients in the hospital and charge them lots of money for the hospital stay.

The ineffectiveness of remdesivir was covered up because it was usually used in combination with inexpensive steroid drugs that cured the patient. I was put on both while in the hospital with Covid.

After I was in the hospital four days a doctor I had not seen before came into my room. He looked at me with a puzzled look on his face and said I did not look sick and he was sending me home. A couple weeks later I visited my personal doctor. Also with a puzzled look on his face, he said he was surprised when he looked at my x-rays and saw absolutely no lung damage. This is something most hospitalized patients would have as an after effect. I have always wondered if handing me a bottle of steroid pills and sending me home would have worked about as well as getting the remdesivir pumped into me.

“Weirdly, the much predicted rise in domestic violence didn’t much happen during the covid year of 2020.”

I’ll post my response here since it is COVID related. Sure, your weasel words make this statement seem true. But then you don’t provide any background…you simply move on. I thought only lazy legacy media types engage in that behavior.

“The pandemic has thrown many of the most vulnerable people in our society into especially challenging circumstances, so these findings should not surprise us,” said Thomas Abt, director of the National Commission on COVID-19 and Criminal Justice. “Policymakers and researchers should work to further understand the impacts of the pandemic and provide additional resources for domestic abuse prevention and victim services, particularly to those who are most isolated and at risk.”

The [2022 United Nations] report analyzed the findings of 18 studies – 12 in the U.S. and six in other countries – that included multiple estimates of changes in the number of domestic violence incidents before and after lockdown measures were imposed. Including all of the studies, the summary of their estimates documented a 7.9% increase; for the U.S. studies alone, the spike was 8.1%.”

Anyways, once again, let’s offer some important context.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/06/shadow-pandemic-of-domestic-violence/

Q–In which other ways were domestic violence victims affected by the pandemic?

YANG: I don’t have direct access to information about shelters during the pandemic. I’m sure they remained open for the current residents, but I don’t know whether they were accepting new residents. What I do know is that judges were less likely to grant motions like Motions to Vacate the Marital Home due to the pandemic restrictions. Although this didn’t happen in any of my cases, there were anecdotes about judges being much less willing to consider those motions because of the inability of anyone to leave the house and go somewhere else. But in situations where there is clear violence, and the plaintiff can show imminent physical safety issues, judges must first and foremost consider the safety aspects of the plaintiff seeking a protective order. Judges handled restraining orders during the pandemic as emergency petitions, and the courts were open for those, but everything had to be remote and remote on a dime. There were situations where it was more difficult to provide evidence because documents or affidavits were usually filed with the court and had to be filed in person. There were gaps in the court’s systems during the pandemic, and understandably so, but that doesn’t lessen the impact and hardships that the victims had to endure.

“The ineffectiveness of remdesivir was covered up because it was usually used in combination with inexpensive steroid drugs that cured the patient. I was put on both while in the hospital with Covid.”

And let’s not forget the Remdesivir was only used because you stupidly chose to pass on the vaccine that was freely available to you, which is how you wound up in the hospital in the first place. You don’t like Remdesivir? Hey, here’s an idea — don’t wind up in the hospital, given that they dispense it a lot over there.

For the truthers to try and blame ventilator usage for deaths from a disease that they originally didn’t even believe was real (a “nothingburger” that still somehow managed to get hordes of people blue to the point where even they were calling for paramedics) and then even afterward refused to inoculate themselves against, is again, not something you’re going to make much headway with, outside your comfortable safe-space echo chamber. Desperation may not be the mother of invention, but it certainly births a whole lot of squirming and thrashing about.

The Thick of It is very funny. The guy who did it, Armand Ianucci (sp?), later did a less profane version as Veep.

https://apnews.com/article/state-department-victoria-nuland-retiring-russia-ukraine-b06cfb9ca517f1a7f2e10ee7520e3086

Victoria Nuland, third-highest ranking US diplomat and critic of Russia’s war in Ukraine, retiring

WASHINGTON (AP) — Victoria Nuland, the third-highest ranking U.S. diplomat and frequent target of criticism for her hawkish views on Russia and its actions in Ukraine, will retire and leave her post this month, the State Department said Tuesday.

Nuland, a career foreign service officer who served as Assistant Secretary of State for Europe during the Obama administration but retired after Donald Trump was elected president, returned to government as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs in the Biden administration.

She had been a candidate to succeed Wendy Sherman as deputy Secretary of State and had served as acting deputy since Sherman’s retirement seven months ago but lost an internal administration personnel battle when President Joe Biden nominated Kurt Campbell to the no. 2 spot. Campbell took office last month.

She’s being replaced with Doug Bass, the guy who oversaw our catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan. Perhaps that means something, perhaps it’s just the standard Democrat prioritizing of elections over literally everything.

And let’s not forget the Remdesivir was only used because you stupidly chose to pass on the vaccine that was freely available to you, which is how you wound up in the hospital in the first place.

Because no one who was vaccinated got Covid and had to be hospitalized. That is even worse than your usual bad arguments.

“vaccine that was freely available to you”

But early home treatments that might have prevented hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations or deaths were never freely available. Doctors who tried to develop and implement such treatments were threatened with the loss of their medical licenses. If they were to try to practice medicine after they lost their license, they would be arrested by the police. If they resisted arrest, they would be shot and killed.

HA supported that. He tries to squirm around on the subject sometimes but I recently got him to admit it. He would have been too much of a coward to try to kill those doctors himself but was fine with advocating that others do it. A leopard doesn’t change his spots. Now he is advocating America should be involved in the Ukraine war, a war that he is too much of a coward to go fight in himself. Once a coward, always a coward.

How HBD people (like “HA” iSteve etc) think they are:

How they really are:

“Because no one who was vaccinated got Covid and had to be hospitalized.”

Ah yes, the seat belt doesn’t work perfectly every time, so it’s therefore not worth even strapping on, is that what you’re going with?

I’d say that’s even worse than your usual bad arguments, but sadly, it’s par for the course.

Similarly, the vaccine effectiveness against hospital admission caused by COVID-19 in fully vaccinated participants in the > 45 years age group who had received the BBIBP-CorV and BNT162b2 vaccines was 92% (95% CI 88% to 95%) and 98% (95% CI 79% to 99.7%), respectively.

“But early home treatments that might have prevented hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations or deaths were never freely available.”

“might have prevented”? Sadly, there’s no evidence of that, backseat-driver-MD, which is why you and your followers are reduced to shrugging your shoulders and saying “might have” instead of providing links to actual data and research. Whereas, as my previous comment showed, the likelihood of winding up in the hospital after taking the vaccine dropped by roughly a factor of 10. But you’re still going with “might have”? Hey, for the price of a free vaccine, I got to thumb my nose at the Remdesivir lobby and all the other Big Pharma knick-knacks they shovel into you over in the hospital — next time, take a walk down easy street instead of muttering might-have-been.

Face it, the one prevention-protocol that was shown to actually work was the very one you passed on. So much for might-have-been.

Hey, a sharp stick in the eye “might have” caused you to leave the Christmas party early and thereby avoid infection — are you outraged the government didn’t provide early use authorization for that treatment too, because they were too busy shooting and killing quack doctors? Yeah, thanks for keeping it real, Mr. “might have”.

“She’s being replaced with Doug Bass,”

No, it’s John Bass — a former ambassador to Georgia and Turkey (and Afghanistan), and so far, the posting is temporary, though they may decide to keep him there.