From the New York Times:
Steve King Says Civilization Can’t Be Restored With ‘Somebody Else’s Babies’
By MATTHEW HAAG MARCH 12, 2017On Twitter, Representative Steve King, Republican of Iowa, echoed the principles of white nationalism.
Representative Steve King, a Republican from Iowa who has a history of making inflammatory statements viewed by many as insensitive or outright racist, was roundly criticized on Sunday for his apparent endorsement of white nationalism.
Mr. King made the remark on Twitter when he shared a story by the Voice of Europe website about the far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders, who wants to end Muslim immigration and ban the Quran and who has called Moroccan immigrants “scum.”
Steve King ✔ @SteveKingIA
Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies. https://twitter.com/v_of_europe/status/840724494113206272 …
10:40 AM – 12 Mar 2017 · Iowa, USA
3,499 3,499 Retweets 5,324 5,324 likesCritics said that Mr. King echoed the principles of white nationalism, the belief that national identity is linked to the white race and its superiority to other races. Self-proclaimed white nationalists emerged as a small but vocal group during the candidacy of Donald J. Trump, celebrating his promises to crack down on illegal immigration and ban Muslims from entering the United States, as well as heralding his presidential victory as a chance to preserve white culture.
David Duke [blah blah blah] …
But many people quickly condemned Mr. King. “You, Congressman, are simply a bigot,” one person replied. Another person wrote, “You know that you were ‘somebody else’s baby’ too, right? Or do you not understand how this works?”
Uh, how exactly does this work?
Is there something we don’t know about where babies come from? I’m wondering whether reporter Haag has stumbled upon a really big scoop here.
Representative Ted Lieu, a California Democrat who was born in Taiwan, shared a photo of his sons on Twitter.
For some reason, when it comes to immigration policy, non-whites are not expected to agree that somebody else’s babies are good enough. Instead, they are encouraged to demand the demographic transformation of the United States by their relatives.
Mr. King, who was elected to Congress in 2002, questioned what nonwhites have contributed to civilization at a panel discussion in July about the racial makeup of the Republican Party.
“I’d ask you to go back through history and figure out where are these contributions that have been made by these other categories of people that you are talking about,” he said. “Where did any other subgroup of people contribute more to civilization?”
Much outraged sputtering ensued.
In other news, the Supreme Court ruled the Preamble to the Constitution:
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
unconstitutional for being anti-Somebody Else’s Babiesist.
Of course, there’s an interpretation that doesn’t involve race. Maybe he’s worried about Christians being replaced with Muslims, and would be happy if they were all black Christians invading the Netherlands? Well, maybe not, plenty of evidence suggests that Rep. Steve King engages in plenty of thought crime of the most evil variety.
After David Duke’s gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil.
"After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil."
I would say Richard Spencer, but Spencer's much more smarter and sophisticated than Duke.Replies: @Twinkie, @Maj. Kong, @ben tillman, @europeasant
For some reason, what is good, sound, and sensible for Israel is not for gentile nations.
If he’s saying the US should remain white he’s a white nationalist. He didn’t explicitly say that but he hinted at it. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a white nationalist (except for all the other white nationalists, but that can change).
For once, the NYT may be right: that was one hell of a woke comment.
After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil.Replies: @JohnnyD, @Barnard, @Jake, @lavoisier
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“After David Duke’s gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil.”
I would say Richard Spencer, but Spencer’s much more smarter and sophisticated than Duke.
https://moulton.house.gov/about-seth/
Spencer is wildly overrated, and gullibly basks in the spotlight of the leftist media. For if only he had the background of the man at the second link, rather than being the worlds most famous right-wing trustafarian.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Except for two instances in MSM. He got caught being sucker punched and someone claimed he did a hitler salute. Maybe he learned he's still young. Last time I got sucked punched was when I was 16.
The Washington Post has managed to become more hysterical and unhinged than the NYT, which is quite an accomplishment.
When did liberals ever claim they wanted to restore our civilization?
Critique, deconstruct, transform, etc… Absolutely. Restore, no.
“Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies. ”
They be upset that someone noticed “What’s going on”
Marvin Gaye ” What’s Going On ” Live 1972
If Steve King is a White Nationalist, then so is Howard Stern, Jerry Seinfeld, Charles Murray, Andrew Dice Clay, Larry the Cable Guy, and Jeff Foxworthy. Everyone’s a White Nationalist … if they are White and Male. This is where Diversity naturally ends … with non-Whites hunting down the last White men into the weeds like the US Army Cavalry at Wounded Knee.
Over on Twitter, non-Whites and various SJW White women (the natural and eternal alliance) have driven the actor who plays Danny Rand in Marvel’s Iron Fist off Twitter. The character in the comics *IS* White, that’s the whole point, but Twitter Diversity Enforcers want an Asian character. Because Whites cannot be martial artists, that’s cultural appropriation. [Quick somebody better tell Dolph Lungren and Chuck Norris.]
We’ve gone from Walker Texas Ranger, where Chuck Norris’s roundhouse kicks and martial arts were seen as just part of the cultural landscape, to a point of active White-hunting which is what this is — how is King’s comments part of White supremacy? He’s not calling for colonial rule over Africa; just not relying on other people’s babies. A point Japan takes very seriously.
This is momentum based — Non-Whites and SJW White Women feel they have corporate America, the media, NGOs, Government, the Deep State all on their side and that’s all that matters. They do have all that on their side. But its not the only thing that matters. Massive job disruption by AI is coming within a few years at best — when half the adults can’t find a job due to AI/Robotics making them obsolete, universal income and kicking all the others out is a going to be THE driving point of survival.
Their figures I believe we're 45pc of jobs on the high end were subject to automation.
Even if it's a quarter or a third can you imagine the insane fucking social and cultural AND economic upheaval this will cause?
As you put it several weeks ago we have nukes & special forces, etc but "so what, the Soviet Union did too....."
This country will be Yugoslavia in 30 years, or less. Get your economic affairs in order now, before it goes Mad Max...
.Replies: @Harry Baldwin
Check out this incredible response from Chelsea Clinton:
Amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXzEcwYs8Eo
Now I know how SJWs feel. My only response is, wow just wow... (Did her husbands rabbi give her a different interpretation of Purim or something?!)Replies: @Altai
Yeah, a lot of people are running around now comparing Trump to Haman. I tell 'em Haman was Obama with his anti-Israel diplomatic offensive back in December.
After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil.Replies: @JohnnyD, @Barnard, @Jake, @lavoisier
That is a good question. They will try to move the goalposts on people considered within the mainstream now. We should already be past the point they can use Duke and the Klan, both are totally irrelevant.
For a little background on Purim:
Esther 9:
“All our children” my ass. I don’t know whether Chelsea is a moron or whether she has a sick sense of humor.
Outside of that, it was just another generic stupid comment.
As to the congressman's comment, I can only repeat what I always say: #1 - If the Europoids don't reproduce, they will be replaced. It will be less traumatic for people like us, who can foresee the consequences, than it will be for liberals, when they find out just how illiberal most non-Europoid civilizations are. They still don't understand that.
#2 - Having been to the Far East for extended periods, I really would hate if the US turned into as crowded a hellhole as other parts of the planet. Again, when it happens, we at least won't be surprised.Replies: @Clifford Brown
Moron.
Can’t Zing the King?
D*&^%n, what a great opportunity to increase the American GDP! All we have to do is get the cheapest babies! Woo ho, send me my Nobel prize check soonest!
Esther 9: "All our children" my ass. I don't know whether Chelsea is a moron or whether she has a sick sense of humor.Replies: @Opinionator, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Moshe, @EriK, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @SPMoore8, @Sayless
I’m not sure I quite follow what you are getting at.
Fair to say that Purim is the celebration of the wiping out/genocide of a Gentile blood line?
“For a little background on Purim:”
Like most old time religions, the attitude seems to be “they tried to kill us, we won and killed them, let’s eat.”
Um, in what other old time religions is that the attitude?
It's also one the new religion followed zealously by the Post fails to clear.
Esther 9: "All our children" my ass. I don't know whether Chelsea is a moron or whether she has a sick sense of humor.Replies: @Opinionator, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Moshe, @EriK, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @SPMoore8, @Sayless
Must have sucked to be Haman’s sons.
Well, Whites’ superiority at producing White babies is undisputed.
Note the by-default-biologically-determinist argument implicit in the hysteric’s argument: no, the culture of parents, and the children they raise, don’t matter.
Esther 9: "All our children" my ass. I don't know whether Chelsea is a moron or whether she has a sick sense of humor.Replies: @Opinionator, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Moshe, @EriK, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @SPMoore8, @Sayless
Oh, her quote thing was disgusting and exploitative but (although she certainly neither meant nor knew this) before the war, lots off gentiles did pretend to be jewish. Whether their genes supplanted the originals is not known – well, it is, they didn’t, but boy would her point be brilliantly made if they had!
Oh, her quote thing was disgusting and exploitative
In what way was it those things?
And why would her point (whatever it was) be well made under your hypothetical?
I thought they were mostly lefty in Iowa, but I guess the northwest corner has lots of Dutch who are more conservative.
Esther 9: "All our children" my ass. I don't know whether Chelsea is a moron or whether she has a sick sense of humor.Replies: @Opinionator, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Moshe, @EriK, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @SPMoore8, @Sayless
I’m gonna guess Chelsea is a moron. She’s never shown a sense of humor.
Humorless and not very bright – she is certainly her mother’s daughter.
Much pointing and sputtering for a statement which is self-evidently true.
Are Chelsea Clinton’s tweets somehow tax-deductible or otherwise expensed to a campaign?
Chelsea can go Sukkot.
Ted Lieu is the scum who literally threatened legislative action against Lowe’s after they pulled sponsorship from a reality show about American Muslims.
Literally.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-10/immigration-works-fine-when-newcomers-integrate
We need the old traditional society based on patriarchy, the Western European Marriage Pattern, and the claims of Christianity. Particularly to this country, we need to return to the traditional foreign policy laid down by Washington's Farewell Address.
And yes, before the usual trolls reply, I'm aware that it may be to my disadvantage. But self-interest shouldn't be the barometer of truth, guys.Replies: @L Woods, @Desiderius
Esther 9: "All our children" my ass. I don't know whether Chelsea is a moron or whether she has a sick sense of humor.Replies: @Opinionator, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Moshe, @EriK, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @SPMoore8, @Sayless
From Da Jesus Book: Hawaii Pidgin New Testament
Hey, the Jews in Israel agree. After all, we don’t see them bolstering their numbers by letting in Arabs…..
I knew about preference cascades long ago, I knew that the White Nationalism issue would emerge suddenly, I just didn’t know when it would happen and what would trigger the cascade. Trump really did move the Overton Window and, as importantly, he showed all politicians that one can stand firm against criticism.
If King had made this statement even a few years ago he would have marginalized himself and would, likely, have issued some type of apology, thus preserving the narrative of our times.
Trump will be on of the most consequential Presidents in history for his accomplishment of changing how politics is conducted.
That to me is a win. People are waking up. Dents are being made. This as you say is Trump's doing, shifting the terms of debate to a more rationalized place.
Esther 9: "All our children" my ass. I don't know whether Chelsea is a moron or whether she has a sick sense of humor.Replies: @Opinionator, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Moshe, @EriK, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @SPMoore8, @Sayless
I think what she is getting at is that, in practice, Purim is a kind of Jewish Halloween. That’s where the kids thing comes in.
Outside of that, it was just another generic stupid comment.
As to the congressman’s comment, I can only repeat what I always say: #1 – If the Europoids don’t reproduce, they will be replaced. It will be less traumatic for people like us, who can foresee the consequences, than it will be for liberals, when they find out just how illiberal most non-Europoid civilizations are. They still don’t understand that.
#2 – Having been to the Far East for extended periods, I really would hate if the US turned into as crowded a hellhole as other parts of the planet. Again, when it happens, we at least won’t be surprised.
So Rep. King's lack of appreciation for all children can be seen as echoing Haman's lack of appreciation for the Jewish children in ancient Persia, another multi-ethnic empire.
Now, Haman's extended kin were exterminated in revenge for Haman's plot, but that is a whole other story.Replies: @Opinionator, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman
Like most old time religions, the attitude seems to be "they tried to kill us, we won and killed them, let's eat."Replies: @Opinionator, @Desiderius
> “Like most old time religions”
Um, in what other old time religions is that the attitude?
I feel like I’m missing something in Clinton’s tweet and in Bill P’s posts on this and the replies.
Oh, her quote thing was disgusting and exploitative
In what way was it those things?
And why would her point (whatever it was) be well made under your hypothetical?
People say Hillary Clinton actually has a good sense of humor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqYJRc0TJkQReplies: @Mr. Anon
King has long had the best twitter feed of any US politician. He gets every important issue right and steadily pushes the boundaries of mainstream right discourse out, but is careful with his targets and his language.
Besides being the congressman most concerned with demographic replacement, he makes friends and supports the reasonable nationalist right in Europe (Le Pen, Wilders, UKIP, Putin) and is very pro-Israel, pro-Christianity and pro-military.
He also does a good job provoking leftist overreaction. He’s in a very safe GOP seat, but the lefties are now dumping small donations at his hopeless opponent. They are also hitting back on twitter saying things like
Provoking the left to make their white-hate explicit like this is valuable.
I feel this is an appropriate response seeing as JonTron is half Amalek (Or post-Trump, maybe full Amalek?)
Now I know how SJWs feel. My only response is, wow just wow… (Did her husbands rabbi give her a different interpretation of Purim or something?!)
https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/841051513212547072
If King had made this statement even a few years ago he would have marginalized himself and would, likely, have issued some type of apology, thus preserving the narrative of our times.
Trump will be on of the most consequential Presidents in history for his accomplishment of changing how politics is conducted.Replies: @Ed
King may eventually apologize for sure other GOP congressmen will be called upon & will disavow. For now though his tweet has been up for 10 hours & hes tweeted subsequently about other topics.
That to me is a win. People are waking up. Dents are being made. This as you say is Trump’s doing, shifting the terms of debate to a more rationalized place.
Outside of that, it was just another generic stupid comment.
As to the congressman's comment, I can only repeat what I always say: #1 - If the Europoids don't reproduce, they will be replaced. It will be less traumatic for people like us, who can foresee the consequences, than it will be for liberals, when they find out just how illiberal most non-Europoid civilizations are. They still don't understand that.
#2 - Having been to the Far East for extended periods, I really would hate if the US turned into as crowded a hellhole as other parts of the planet. Again, when it happens, we at least won't be surprised.Replies: @Clifford Brown
Chelsea’s comment regarding Purim does make sense if you view Purim as not Jewish Halloween, but as another Jewish holiday in which the extermination of the Jewish people is narrowly averted. This is kind of a theme in Jewish holidays. Mean Old Haman was determined to exterminate the Jewish people of the Persian Empire until Esther used her charms on the Persian King to save the day. Many Jews see in the Esther story clear parallels with ancient Egypt, the Roman occupation and The Holocaust.
So Rep. King’s lack of appreciation for all children can be seen as echoing Haman’s lack of appreciation for the Jewish children in ancient Persia, another multi-ethnic empire.
Now, Haman’s extended kin were exterminated in revenge for Haman’s plot, but that is a whole other story.
How many of the major jewish holidays do NOT include the celebration of the murder of Gentiles?
Truth be told though after Trump’s victory I’m more hopeful that the situation will stabilize. Illegal migration will slow and enforcement is ratcheting up. If Trump can get half the illegals out & make changes to legal immigration, I think we’re good. We have low numbers of Muslims, many Hispanics are actually white identified & even some African immigrants are an improvement.
I noticed that not too many GOPe politicians had much to say. I saw a Cuban GOPer ask King some snarky question but that’s it. Usually Ben Sasse will send up some virtue signaling tweet but I didn’t see one tonight. Maybe the worm is slowly turning.
So Rep. King's lack of appreciation for all children can be seen as echoing Haman's lack of appreciation for the Jewish children in ancient Persia, another multi-ethnic empire.
Now, Haman's extended kin were exterminated in revenge for Haman's plot, but that is a whole other story.Replies: @Opinionator, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman
Now, Haman’s extended kin were exterminated in revenge for Haman’s plot, but that is a whole other story.
How many of the major jewish holidays do NOT include the celebration of the murder of Gentiles?
Over on Twitter, non-Whites and various SJW White women (the natural and eternal alliance) have driven the actor who plays Danny Rand in Marvel's Iron Fist off Twitter. The character in the comics *IS* White, that's the whole point, but Twitter Diversity Enforcers want an Asian character. Because Whites cannot be martial artists, that's cultural appropriation. [Quick somebody better tell Dolph Lungren and Chuck Norris.]
We've gone from Walker Texas Ranger, where Chuck Norris's roundhouse kicks and martial arts were seen as just part of the cultural landscape, to a point of active White-hunting which is what this is -- how is King's comments part of White supremacy? He's not calling for colonial rule over Africa; just not relying on other people's babies. A point Japan takes very seriously.
This is momentum based -- Non-Whites and SJW White Women feel they have corporate America, the media, NGOs, Government, the Deep State all on their side and that's all that matters. They do have all that on their side. But its not the only thing that matters. Massive job disruption by AI is coming within a few years at best -- when half the adults can't find a job due to AI/Robotics making them obsolete, universal income and kicking all the others out is a going to be THE driving point of survival.Replies: @Neoconned
Whiskey check out the Frey/Osbourne study on job automation from Oxford University in 2013. ….
Their figures I believe we’re 45pc of jobs on the high end were subject to automation.
Even if it’s a quarter or a third can you imagine the insane fucking social and cultural AND economic upheaval this will cause?
As you put it several weeks ago we have nukes & special forces, etc but “so what, the Soviet Union did too…..”
This country will be Yugoslavia in 30 years, or less. Get your economic affairs in order now, before it goes Mad Max…
.
People also say she surrounds herself with toadies and yes-men. Perhaps it is they who say she has a good sense of humor.
Esther 9: "All our children" my ass. I don't know whether Chelsea is a moron or whether she has a sick sense of humor.Replies: @Opinionator, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Moshe, @EriK, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @SPMoore8, @Sayless
Chelsea a moron or has a sick sense of humor?
Moron.
Like most old time religions, the attitude seems to be "they tried to kill us, we won and killed them, let's eat."Replies: @Opinionator, @Desiderius
It’s admittedly a low bar.
It’s also one the new religion followed zealously by the Post fails to clear.
Just think how many Pampers we will sell!
I’m thinking the one assuming “our” means white and “someone else” means non-white is the racist here.
What am I missing?
Judge for yourself:
Happy Purim, Chelsea!
Yeah, a lot of people are running around now comparing Trump to Haman. I tell ’em Haman was Obama with his anti-Israel diplomatic offensive back in December.
"After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil."
I would say Richard Spencer, but Spencer's much more smarter and sophisticated than Duke.Replies: @Twinkie, @Maj. Kong, @ben tillman, @europeasant
Is he “more smarter”? Why? Because he likes Asian women and wears a fancy watch?
I’m with Steve King on this one. And his remark is perfectly consistent with a “citizenist” view on immigration.
Restore? No.
Replace? Yes. That has always been the idea.
Your enemies actions are not accidental, they are deliberate and coordinated.
And make no mistake…they are your enemies. And you are theirs.
Spencer is married to a Russian woman.
He has dated Asian women and have expressed an admiration for them, calling them "smart and cute" and "a thing" in a recent interview.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Brutusale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqYJRc0TJkQReplies: @Mr. Anon
I have noticed that Mrs. Clinton and Kate McKinnon are actually starting to look more like one another. Maybe Hillary is transferring her life force into Kate’s body in order to live for another 60 years.
https://i2.wp.com/www.commonsenseevaluation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/hillary-aged.jpg
No, probably because he is a lot smarter than Duke.
"After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil."
I would say Richard Spencer, but Spencer's much more smarter and sophisticated than Duke.Replies: @Twinkie, @Maj. Kong, @ben tillman, @europeasant
https://moulton.house.gov/about-seth/
Spencer is wildly overrated, and gullibly basks in the spotlight of the leftist media. For if only he had the background of the man at the second link, rather than being the worlds most famous right-wing trustafarian.
Moulton, like war hero John McCain, can get bent.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Brutusale
In an era where a Congressional Representative runs around saying things like this, how does iSteve remain enticing when it is very dependent upon being a forbidden delight?
I'll keep writing, and you young un' keep quacking, tweeting, twittering and all that - knock yourselves out. It looks like we're starting to make a small dent in the driver's side quarter-panel of the Stupid. Next step, call in the Carolina Crusher.*
* What, not a monster-truck fan?Replies: @anonguy
Their figures I believe we're 45pc of jobs on the high end were subject to automation.
Even if it's a quarter or a third can you imagine the insane fucking social and cultural AND economic upheaval this will cause?
As you put it several weeks ago we have nukes & special forces, etc but "so what, the Soviet Union did too....."
This country will be Yugoslavia in 30 years, or less. Get your economic affairs in order now, before it goes Mad Max...
.Replies: @Harry Baldwin
When all the bad things start happening, I’m not sure the advice to “Get your economic affairs in order” will help much.
The *only* way to restore our civilization is to disestablish the state religion of Cultural Marxism/Feminism.
We need the old traditional society based on patriarchy, the Western European Marriage Pattern, and the claims of Christianity. Particularly to this country, we need to return to the traditional foreign policy laid down by Washington’s Farewell Address.
Infowars went mainstream, if things manage to keep going our way, perhaps Steve can get a Heritage Foundation/AEI sinecure. Perhaps we can take over National Review like Zuckerberg’s gay roommate took over the New Republic.
Not too surprising:
https://twitter.com/NeoNeoLiberal/status/839958922542751745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXzEcwYs8Eo
Now I know how SJWs feel. My only response is, wow just wow... (Did her husbands rabbi give her a different interpretation of Purim or something?!)Replies: @Altai
Wow! He has gone full Amalek!
Is she ethnically Russian? In any case, I believe she and he are parting ways.
He has dated Asian women and have expressed an admiration for them, calling them “smart and cute” and “a thing” in a recent interview.
He has dated Asian women and have expressed an admiration for them, calling them "smart and cute" and "a thing" in a recent interview.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Brutusale
Interesting, did not know that. If so, it adds more evidence to the pile that Spencer is half-baked.
However, I am disturbed by 1) his hypocrisy (and a wide divergence between his public rhetoric and private behavior/preferences) and 2) his clueless fantasy bloodthirstiness, i.e. he thinks that his goal of achieving a white ethno-state may be very bloody, but he is apparently cool with it.
Basically, his antics and attention-seeking seem to serve two groups of people 1) Richard Spencer and 2) the MSM that needs a Nazi bogeyman.
I think he is terrible at the actual white advocacy. I am deeply concerned about the state of downscale whites in this country, and I do not see him doing a damn thing about it. Instead he seems to be about haircuts and media-whoring.Replies: @Maj. Kong
Since 1) I am ethnically Asian and 2) have met Asian women of high quality, I am not scandalized or surprised by Richard Spencer’s dating preferences.
However, I am disturbed by 1) his hypocrisy (and a wide divergence between his public rhetoric and private behavior/preferences) and 2) his clueless fantasy bloodthirstiness, i.e. he thinks that his goal of achieving a white ethno-state may be very bloody, but he is apparently cool with it.
Basically, his antics and attention-seeking seem to serve two groups of people 1) Richard Spencer and 2) the MSM that needs a Nazi bogeyman.
I think he is terrible at the actual white advocacy. I am deeply concerned about the state of downscale whites in this country, and I do not see him doing a damn thing about it. Instead he seems to be about haircuts and media-whoring.
While an "ethnostate" Japan levels of purity aren't likely, it is not outrageous to presume that the US could adopt an immigration moratorium, deportation of illegals and the end of jus soli. That, along with an end to affirmative action and subsidization of underclass fertility, could leave the US at a ~65% white majority, enough to end the left's dream of permanent rule.
Most of these ideas already exist as separate policies in varying nations, they simply need to be brought together.
None of that requires my preferred, but unpalatable solutions, such as the deportation of all Marxist "intellectuals", surtaxes on "power couples", restricting full suffrage to at most 10% of the population via the Prussian system.
Herzl had a dream of a Jewish state, though it doesn't look much like he wanted it to be.Replies: @Twinkie, @Andrew
the fate of western, sensitve, effeminate cucks it to be rules by strong, masculine men.
In your hearts you know i am right. That is why you fear.
ahallu akbarReplies: @eah, @Desiderius
The fate of the weak is to serve the strong. That is the nature of things, and reality supercedes anythhing in the constition.
the fate of western, sensitve, effeminate cucks it to be rules by strong, masculine men.
In your hearts you know i am right. That is why you fear.
ahallu akbar
Make up your mind already.Replies: @allahu akbar
https://moulton.house.gov/about-seth/
Spencer is wildly overrated, and gullibly basks in the spotlight of the leftist media. For if only he had the background of the man at the second link, rather than being the worlds most famous right-wing trustafarian.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Both Spencer and Moulton have similarly ‘privileged’ backgrounds. From what I can tell, Richard Spencer is far more the patriot than Seth Moulton. Serving with valor during wartime doesn’t excuse treason in the here and now. Read this and weep (unless you’re a totalitarian, then rejoice).
Moulton, like war hero John McCain, can get bent.
Of course not.
But while Moulton was privileged, he willingly signed up to do four tours in Iraq as an officer.
I compare the two because they are of similar ages. As the video link shows, Spencer has had little to show for what he was given. Someone of his considerable gifts could have easily hustled into being a Special Forces officer, a SCOTUS clerk, etc.
And in that world we would be talking about Congressman Richard Spencer, not our world's washed-up journalist quangocrat Richard Spencer.Replies: @L Woods, @Olorin, @Jenner Ickham Errican
Moulton keeps up the tradition of only fools and poltroons representing the MA 6th District.
I’m surprised she did not write “2017”.
the fate of western, sensitve, effeminate cucks it to be rules by strong, masculine men.
In your hearts you know i am right. That is why you fear.
ahallu akbarReplies: @eah, @Desiderius
Eloquently said. And creatively spelled.
Then there’s….
Steve King is one of the best congressmen on border protection and sane immigration policy. He is not scared to wade into issues of race and culture and will honestly speak about the importance of preserving white culture. King’s NW Iowa district is very conservative and very white. King himself I believe farmed out there, where farmland today is worth a fortune and I expect that he is financially squared away for life. He is very smart guy and happily engages and backs up his arguments with clear thinking and facts and does not rant and rave. He also does not take much crap and gives as good as he gets. King isn’t going anywhere and I love the way he drives the left wing nuts absolutely bonkers with his ‘inflammatory’ and ‘controversial’ and let’s see, what else do they use….. oh yeah, ‘far right’ commentary, we know all the clever little hate words the media mental midgets use to describe guys like King who simply want to protect our borders and white America, and not see the nation go third world (‘maverick’ …. ‘firebrand’…..ad nauseum). I see that Steve made Chelsea have a sad on ‘purim,’ oh wah wah wah, poor Steve was ’roundly criticized.’ Not by me, he wasn’t actually I praised him so there.
Steve King represents Sioux County, Iowa, the most valuable farmland in the Midwest:
http://takimag.com/article/moneyball_for_real_estate_steve_sailer/print#axzz4aunJJX4f
However, I am disturbed by 1) his hypocrisy (and a wide divergence between his public rhetoric and private behavior/preferences) and 2) his clueless fantasy bloodthirstiness, i.e. he thinks that his goal of achieving a white ethno-state may be very bloody, but he is apparently cool with it.
Basically, his antics and attention-seeking seem to serve two groups of people 1) Richard Spencer and 2) the MSM that needs a Nazi bogeyman.
I think he is terrible at the actual white advocacy. I am deeply concerned about the state of downscale whites in this country, and I do not see him doing a damn thing about it. Instead he seems to be about haircuts and media-whoring.Replies: @Maj. Kong
I was referring to his presumed divorce, but your other points aren’t bad. I consider the community and the nation to be extensions of the family, and if you can’t be loyal to your wife, people will question your loyalties to the former. (see: FW de Klerk)
While an “ethnostate” Japan levels of purity aren’t likely, it is not outrageous to presume that the US could adopt an immigration moratorium, deportation of illegals and the end of jus soli. That, along with an end to affirmative action and subsidization of underclass fertility, could leave the US at a ~65% white majority, enough to end the left’s dream of permanent rule.
Most of these ideas already exist as separate policies in varying nations, they simply need to be brought together.
None of that requires my preferred, but unpalatable solutions, such as the deportation of all Marxist “intellectuals”, surtaxes on “power couples”, restricting full suffrage to at most 10% of the population via the Prussian system.
Herzl had a dream of a Jewish state, though it doesn’t look much like he wanted it to be.
We need neo-eugenic policies, mass deportation, a new Asiatic Barred Zone, and continued immigration of Europeans just to keep ourselves roughly where we are at. Mass migration of Europeans in 1800's only budged the white population a few percentage points - from around 85% to 90%. We need to turn around from 65% and shrinking to 80% plus and growing. And we are depending on debt slave sexually-degenerate Millenials to do the heavy lifting.
The political will and the awareness of the electorate is always a couple of decades behind where it needs to be to effectuate real change.
Moulton, like war hero John McCain, can get bent.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Brutusale
Do I like Moulton?
Of course not.
But while Moulton was privileged, he willingly signed up to do four tours in Iraq as an officer.
I compare the two because they are of similar ages. As the video link shows, Spencer has had little to show for what he was given. Someone of his considerable gifts could have easily hustled into being a Special Forces officer, a SCOTUS clerk, etc.
And in that world we would be talking about Congressman Richard Spencer, not our world’s washed-up journalist quangocrat Richard Spencer.
A groundswell of right-wing outside agitators like Spencer gives encouragement to those both inside the system (like Rep. King) and the Alt-Right/proto-Alt-Right amongst the general public. Also, SJW opposition to Spencer and MSM coverage of Spencer helps the Alt-Right message, because it spreads the Alt-Right message. It’s like with Trump—the MSM thought “Here’s a garish buffoon saying crazy things, who thinks he has a chance. Let’s give him maximum exposure and he’ll implode, hahaha!” Whoops. Maybe, if he isn’t first killed overseas attempting to win Muslim ‘hearts and minds’ in your alt-timeline. He’s too young to be washed up. If anything, his fame/notoriety and public exposure to his advocacy is steadily accelerating, dovetailing with the current populist rightward drift in European and American politics. As for quangocrat, I’m not sure what Spencer has to do with government. Does the NPI get public funding?
Skimming your comment history, it seems that we are basically in agreement on many things, so I hope I’m not coming off as hostile. But I’m left wondering, is your opposition to Spencer personal (you don’t like him), political (you don’t like his views), or both? Either are defendable positions, but you instead made a (IMHO) non-sequitur comparison to Moulton, with hints of class resentment.
Would you describe Steve Sailer as a washed-up market researcher?
P.S., I’ve never heard of Aaron Clarey before you linked to his channel. The guy seems to be a huckster with a complex about ‘rich kids.’ His videos look to be geared toward anxious younger dudes who’ve landed, or are trying to land, their first (entry level) full time job and who haven’t yet outgrown Axe body spray.
Is that accurate market research? :)Replies: @Maj. Kong
The Tibetans don’t seem to be too happy with Chinese babies swamping their country.
I am sure that the learned readership of the NYT will agree that Japanese culture and tradition can be preserved by Japan simply importing people. Send some Indians and Bangladeshis over; and Japanese culture will be fine. It works the other way as well.
– These are the same over-educated fools who love multiculturalism. But the very fact that a culture has existed and survived was because that culture was preserved, often by rules that prevented the entry of outsiders in large numbers.
While an "ethnostate" Japan levels of purity aren't likely, it is not outrageous to presume that the US could adopt an immigration moratorium, deportation of illegals and the end of jus soli. That, along with an end to affirmative action and subsidization of underclass fertility, could leave the US at a ~65% white majority, enough to end the left's dream of permanent rule.
Most of these ideas already exist as separate policies in varying nations, they simply need to be brought together.
None of that requires my preferred, but unpalatable solutions, such as the deportation of all Marxist "intellectuals", surtaxes on "power couples", restricting full suffrage to at most 10% of the population via the Prussian system.
Herzl had a dream of a Jewish state, though it doesn't look much like he wanted it to be.Replies: @Twinkie, @Andrew
I wholeheartedly support all those goals, with an exception – I think there should be a small number of immigration/naturalization slots left open for truly exceptional and highly assimilable people who wish to become Americans.
Not only is that a fantasy on your part, it is likely a path, if implemented, that would lead to much bloodshed and chaos, which may have unforeseen and unintended conquences that you yourself may not like or might cause harm to you or people you care about.
The traditional way to let some of those people through is just to have periods of relatively loose immigration, followed by tight periods focused on assimilation.Replies: @Twinkie
After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil.Replies: @JohnnyD, @Barnard, @Jake, @lavoisier
Steve Sailer is a front runner.
While an "ethnostate" Japan levels of purity aren't likely, it is not outrageous to presume that the US could adopt an immigration moratorium, deportation of illegals and the end of jus soli. That, along with an end to affirmative action and subsidization of underclass fertility, could leave the US at a ~65% white majority, enough to end the left's dream of permanent rule.
Most of these ideas already exist as separate policies in varying nations, they simply need to be brought together.
None of that requires my preferred, but unpalatable solutions, such as the deportation of all Marxist "intellectuals", surtaxes on "power couples", restricting full suffrage to at most 10% of the population via the Prussian system.
Herzl had a dream of a Jewish state, though it doesn't look much like he wanted it to be.Replies: @Twinkie, @Andrew
How would that work when the youngest cohorts in country are already less than 50% white?
We need neo-eugenic policies, mass deportation, a new Asiatic Barred Zone, and continued immigration of Europeans just to keep ourselves roughly where we are at. Mass migration of Europeans in 1800’s only budged the white population a few percentage points – from around 85% to 90%. We need to turn around from 65% and shrinking to 80% plus and growing. And we are depending on debt slave sexually-degenerate Millenials to do the heavy lifting.
The political will and the awareness of the electorate is always a couple of decades behind where it needs to be to effectuate real change.
This place seems to be full of 4chan /pol/ crossovers. Is that a good thing? I don’t think so
So Rep. King's lack of appreciation for all children can be seen as echoing Haman's lack of appreciation for the Jewish children in ancient Persia, another multi-ethnic empire.
Now, Haman's extended kin were exterminated in revenge for Haman's plot, but that is a whole other story.Replies: @Opinionator, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman
This kind of misses the point. Think about listening to a Serb and a Croat arguing. From both of them you get both an exquisite, lovingly preserved sense of grievance against the other (“you keep trying to kill me!!!!”) and a disturbing willingness to overlook or even approve of their own side killing the other. This thing of crying the victim as you march people into mass graves is symptomatic of extreme ethnocentrism.
King on CNN this morning:
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=93929
http://therightstuff.biz/2017/01/25/castizo/
Of course not.
But while Moulton was privileged, he willingly signed up to do four tours in Iraq as an officer.
I compare the two because they are of similar ages. As the video link shows, Spencer has had little to show for what he was given. Someone of his considerable gifts could have easily hustled into being a Special Forces officer, a SCOTUS clerk, etc.
And in that world we would be talking about Congressman Richard Spencer, not our world's washed-up journalist quangocrat Richard Spencer.Replies: @L Woods, @Olorin, @Jenner Ickham Errican
I don’t really see playing the game (as it were) as an eminently worthwhile use of one’s talents. The military is particularly overrated. Military officer is not a profession of the elite as it was for most of history. It is far more a stultifying bureaucratic exercise than a test of one’s mettle. And needless to say, one’s “service” is in the interests of the global plutocracy (and perhaps one’s own defined pension plan), not those of the American nation.
Actually, the Supreme Court has held that the preamble is not a substantive part of the Constitution, but mere throat-clearing. The reason is probably that if laws that did not “form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, [OR] secure the blessings of liberty to [the Founding Fathers] and [their] posterity” were subject to being struck down, we would hardly have any laws at all.
the fate of western, sensitve, effeminate cucks it to be rules by strong, masculine men.
In your hearts you know i am right. That is why you fear.
ahallu akbarReplies: @eah, @Desiderius
The strong or God?
Make up your mind already.
You serve me.
That is the new order of things. You will cuck yourself willingly to me.
allahu akbar.Replies: @Desiderius
I’m pretty happy to see the discourse move right. Its a strange and hopeful thing to see views seen as forbidden begin to make a reemergence.
And yes, before the usual trolls reply, I’m aware that it may be to my disadvantage. But self-interest shouldn’t be the barometer of truth, guys.
Well, God is all strength, so therefore it remains consistent?
I disagree with his original conclusion, though, as we’re quite clearly seen the “strong” fall before the “weak” for a long time in history, with the overall decrease in violence until recently. It hasn’t been until demographic change that such has changed, and its not certain it is ultimately to the benefit of anyone in particular; it may simply just lead to overall collapse as the useful energy of society is exhausted by the demands for various gibs.
I have always felt that to be the inevitable end of any democracy, though.
(b) if it were, it would be redundant
And yes, before the usual trolls reply, I'm aware that it may be to my disadvantage. But self-interest shouldn't be the barometer of truth, guys.Replies: @L Woods, @Desiderius
A U.S. inundated by low-IQ brown people (to put it bluntly) will leave Northeast Asians in the same position they enjoy in Southeast Asia: a despised minority subject to discrimination and periodical pogroms. I’d say it’s more to your advantage than not that nationalism prevail here, even if the temptation of reigning in hell is significant.
Would it be racist for a Chinese official to say: “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies.”?
This should have been King’s reply to Ted Lieu.
(Or “F*ck *ff, Ted!”, alternatively)
The problem you run into there is self-serving among those who decide who is truly exceptional/what criteria count.
The traditional way to let some of those people through is just to have periods of relatively loose immigration, followed by tight periods focused on assimilation.
I disagree with his original conclusion, though, as we're quite clearly seen the "strong" fall before the "weak" for a long time in history, with the overall decrease in violence until recently. It hasn't been until demographic change that such has changed, and its not certain it is ultimately to the benefit of anyone in particular; it may simply just lead to overall collapse as the useful energy of society is exhausted by the demands for various gibs.
I have always felt that to be the inevitable end of any democracy, though.Replies: @Desiderius
(a) obviously not the intended meaning
(b) if it were, it would be redundant
And yes, before the usual trolls reply, I'm aware that it may be to my disadvantage. But self-interest shouldn't be the barometer of truth, guys.Replies: @L Woods, @Desiderius
Highly unlikely. The probability distribution of possible outcomes for you is skewed heavily positive.
Of course not.
But while Moulton was privileged, he willingly signed up to do four tours in Iraq as an officer.
I compare the two because they are of similar ages. As the video link shows, Spencer has had little to show for what he was given. Someone of his considerable gifts could have easily hustled into being a Special Forces officer, a SCOTUS clerk, etc.
And in that world we would be talking about Congressman Richard Spencer, not our world's washed-up journalist quangocrat Richard Spencer.Replies: @L Woods, @Olorin, @Jenner Ickham Errican
So you’re suggesting that service within the Establishment is the best way to challenge the Establishment?
“Representative Ted Lieu, a California Democrat who was born in Taiwan, shared a photo of his sons on Twitter.”
Someone needs to ask Congressman Lieu what he thinks about the immigration policies of literally every country in eastern Asia, and whether he would be amenable to using the power of the US government to pressure those countries to take in millions of immigrants, particularly from the Middle East and Africa.
He has dated Asian women and have expressed an admiration for them, calling them "smart and cute" and "a thing" in a recent interview.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Brutusale
My call is that there are two big reasons Spencer hooked up with this particular Natasha.

Moulton, like war hero John McCain, can get bent.Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Brutusale
Moulton’s district seat was held for two decades by an idiot of a crook whose wife went to jail for tax evasion.
Moulton keeps up the tradition of only fools and poltroons representing the MA 6th District.
Long time reader. Just wanted to say that today I found out my wife is expecting our first child. She is a great woman and we plan to have five. It might be kitsch to say this in the 21st century but I love my people and country. I lost heart in a future for the west until the last few years. Keep your heads up, we have come so far so quickly I would never have thought it was possible. Good luck and God bless to all nationalists throughout the west from a hopeful father to be in Ireland.
So while I wish you the best, I hope you and your wife are prepared. I hope you have helpful grandparents to give you a hand, too. That can make an enormous difference.
I'd also say that sometimes, when you wonder whether it's all worth it, you need some kind of religion to get through the hard times.
I've got three kids, BTW. I think it's worth it, but I've paid a steep price.Replies: @Irish millennial
Very uplifting news about you, your spouse and future progeny.
Keep up the good work. Ireland and the West need people like you, your spouse and family to be.
Keep up the Spirits, ye hardy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijAfcy1uOpQ
Cucks are so offended because they are turned on by their wives having other people’s babies.
The problem with this is that it conflates a wide range of reproductive rates. Obviously, if the numbers fall too low, the problem reaches the point where replacement becomes inevitable. But the rates are nowhere near that low. It’s not like we don’t have enough people to man the barricades. The problem is, at the moment, wholly one of will. Will happens to be the only way to get the rates back up to healthy levels. So I see your point as misleading, and short of constructive.
Or Chinamen (very cognitively elite, more people with IQ 130+ in China than the entire population of Israel, think of the paradise they could produce), or Indians, or Japanese, or Englishmen, or Americans, or Aussies, or anyone else who isn’t Jewish.
It was nice to see Steve King follow up his pro-sanity tweet with another: “I meant what I said.”
*shouting from far to the right of Steve* “There’s a lot of room in this direction!”
I agree with him. The bloodiness is all up to the opposition, though. King George will testify.
Like, say, announcing he likes Asian chicks, but hypocritically marrying a White chick?
I’m far more worried about the White guys with guns. Sans those, clearing out the darkies (even the ones that get your motor running) wouldn’t be any trouble.
That’s an epic quote from Rep King. It will ring down through the national discourse for a long time because it’s the taboo truth.
As a gauge of how far we’ve come: it was taboo to say “demographics is destiny” in comments sections all across the online political spectrum as recently as ten years ago. Maybe even eight years ago. Obama caused the new politics, of course.
I was banned by multiple sites in the early-mid 2000s for using the phrase. Also ICYMI Steve Sailor used to ban a lot more of the edgier comment stuff than he does today. Times change and the Overton Window moves.
Richard Spencer is a ridiculous fedgov agent. Wake up.
- These are the same over-educated fools who love multiculturalism. But the very fact that a culture has existed and survived was because that culture was preserved, often by rules that prevented the entry of outsiders in large numbers.Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
Talking of Japan and Indians –
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07vndh1
Ms Mazumdar, purveyor of “you go girl!” breathlessness and encouragement to 39-year old Japanese spinsters, is a Brit Bengali.
Of course not.
But while Moulton was privileged, he willingly signed up to do four tours in Iraq as an officer.
I compare the two because they are of similar ages. As the video link shows, Spencer has had little to show for what he was given. Someone of his considerable gifts could have easily hustled into being a Special Forces officer, a SCOTUS clerk, etc.
And in that world we would be talking about Congressman Richard Spencer, not our world's washed-up journalist quangocrat Richard Spencer.Replies: @L Woods, @Olorin, @Jenner Ickham Errican
I agree that Moulton’s military record is impressive and I respect his bravery. Unfortunately he’s a literal invader and inviter of the world and is politically ambitious.
You’re placing too much weight on credentials/officialdom as a means to foment change. Spencer, who is far more recognizable nationally than Moulton, seems to be helping make a real difference in moving the Overton Window rightward. Spencer couldn’t be who he is and continue to punch ‘respectable’ tickets—he’d have to keep his views secret. Which would be useless.
A groundswell of right-wing outside agitators like Spencer gives encouragement to those both inside the system (like Rep. King) and the Alt-Right/proto-Alt-Right amongst the general public. Also, SJW opposition to Spencer and MSM coverage of Spencer helps the Alt-Right message, because it spreads the Alt-Right message. It’s like with Trump—the MSM thought “Here’s a garish buffoon saying crazy things, who thinks he has a chance. Let’s give him maximum exposure and he’ll implode, hahaha!” Whoops.
Maybe, if he isn’t first killed overseas attempting to win Muslim ‘hearts and minds’ in your alt-timeline.
He’s too young to be washed up. If anything, his fame/notoriety and public exposure to his advocacy is steadily accelerating, dovetailing with the current populist rightward drift in European and American politics. As for quangocrat, I’m not sure what Spencer has to do with government. Does the NPI get public funding?
Skimming your comment history, it seems that we are basically in agreement on many things, so I hope I’m not coming off as hostile. But I’m left wondering, is your opposition to Spencer personal (you don’t like him), political (you don’t like his views), or both? Either are defendable positions, but you instead made a (IMHO) non-sequitur comparison to Moulton, with hints of class resentment.
Would you describe Steve Sailer as a washed-up market researcher?
P.S., I’ve never heard of Aaron Clarey before you linked to his channel. The guy seems to be a huckster with a complex about ‘rich kids.’ His videos look to be geared toward anxious younger dudes who’ve landed, or are trying to land, their first (entry level) full time job and who haven’t yet outgrown Axe body spray.
Is that accurate market research? 🙂
The traditional way to let some of those people through is just to have periods of relatively loose immigration, followed by tight periods focused on assimilation.Replies: @Twinkie
Sure, that’s always going to be a problem, but you know, baby-bath water.
I agree. But even during tight periods I don’t think we had a complete ban on immigration/naturalization. Again, I am talking about a very small number here.
Rep. King’s public position strikes me as both “citizenist” and assimilationist. That unreasonable racist!
Make up your mind already.Replies: @allahu akbar
I serve god.
You serve me.
That is the new order of things. You will cuck yourself willingly to me.
allahu akbar.
https://www.lawdepot.com/contracts/eviction-notice-landlord-forms/?loc=US
Take care of the details, would you? Don't let the door hit you on the way out.Replies: @allahu akbar
He’s promoting Castizo America. Not a bad way to go, but still not what it could have been.
http://therightstuff.biz/2017/01/25/castizo/
As in Amy Chua’s “World on fire”, which recounted the dangers that the Chinese market dominant minority faced in South East Asia. That was an interesting read.
Congratulations and all the best to you and your country.
You serve me.
That is the new order of things. You will cuck yourself willingly to me.
allahu akbar.Replies: @Desiderius
OK, here you go:
https://www.lawdepot.com/contracts/eviction-notice-landlord-forms/?loc=US
Take care of the details, would you? Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Your president cannot deport us.
Your president cannot prevent us from arriving
your laws serve us.
your courts support us.
your women adore us.
your media is our voice.
your money is our money.
we use your society against you. we use your principles to destroy you. we use your government to enslave you.
Why would we leave? We will own this place...We will own you.
Allahu AkbarReplies: @lavoisier, @dc.sunsets
https://www.lawdepot.com/contracts/eviction-notice-landlord-forms/?loc=US
Take care of the details, would you? Don't let the door hit you on the way out.Replies: @allahu akbar
You have been overthrown.
Your president cannot deport us.
Your president cannot prevent us from arriving
your laws serve us.
your courts support us.
your women adore us.
your media is our voice.
your money is our money.
we use your society against you. we use your principles to destroy you. we use your government to enslave you.
Why would we leave? We will own this place…We will own you.
Allahu Akbar
Don't count your chickens quite yet (assuming this isn't a brilliant Alt-Right troll job.)
Why have any? What is the benefit to Americans?
Ireland is the most child-friendly place I’ve ever visited. However, I wonder whether Irish millennial women haven’t been softened like women all over the West. Childrearing is hard, thankless work. It’s unpaid drudgery. Contemporary European and American women generally don’t have the stomach for it. Nor do Asians, actually. Seems like the only ones who have kids are the very young and naive or the older ones who can afford to hire help. Total disaster for future social equality.
So while I wish you the best, I hope you and your wife are prepared. I hope you have helpful grandparents to give you a hand, too. That can make an enormous difference.
I’d also say that sometimes, when you wonder whether it’s all worth it, you need some kind of religion to get through the hard times.
I’ve got three kids, BTW. I think it’s worth it, but I’ve paid a steep price.
You really can’t think of a single instance?
Further, your argument assumes that some bureaucrat in a position of authority could be depended upon to not only correctly identify that tiny subset of immigrants that would be positive contributors (in ALL ways: culturally, net tax payer, etc) but to act in a trustworthy manner on that information. Fewer of these exist even than do these ephemeral immigrants.
Better to just turn off the faucet entirely. Those few people that would genuinely be additive..well we'll just have to live without them.
After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil.Replies: @JohnnyD, @Barnard, @Jake, @lavoisier
Anyone who thinks Western civilization is something to be proud of and who believes that white people had something to do with its achievements.
Thank you, and to you.
"After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil."
I would say Richard Spencer, but Spencer's much more smarter and sophisticated than Duke.Replies: @Twinkie, @Maj. Kong, @ben tillman, @europeasant
I’m not sure about that.
Your president cannot deport us.
Your president cannot prevent us from arriving
your laws serve us.
your courts support us.
your women adore us.
your media is our voice.
your money is our money.
we use your society against you. we use your principles to destroy you. we use your government to enslave you.
Why would we leave? We will own this place...We will own you.
Allahu AkbarReplies: @lavoisier, @dc.sunsets
If the white masochists and leftists continue to have it their way, you are absolutely right. Western civilization will be destroyed and you will likely fill the vacuum.
But if we can wake up and defend our civilization from the rot created by the left, we can defeat you easily.
So while I wish you the best, I hope you and your wife are prepared. I hope you have helpful grandparents to give you a hand, too. That can make an enormous difference.
I'd also say that sometimes, when you wonder whether it's all worth it, you need some kind of religion to get through the hard times.
I've got three kids, BTW. I think it's worth it, but I've paid a steep price.Replies: @Irish millennial
Hi Bill, the fertility situation in Ireland is slightly better than in other parts of the west but is unfortunately trending in the same direction.
Many good women do still exist out there but you have to be very careful in the choosing. It’s hard for me to know if it’s better or worse than in previous generations as I am still quite young. I never understood how some people can be so careless in picking their spouse. It really is the single most important decision you will ever make in your life.
I think we are both well prepared. Luckily we both worked hard to earn good qualifications and high paying jobs. We are also both very fortunate with our family situations.
Could I ask you how you paid a steep price for your children? Do you mean financialy, missed opportunities or something else?
I'm not saying this to dissuade you. Not by any means. I just think people should be prepared. If you're that mature, great! But consider: if most people were so cautious in matters of love the human race would have died out long ago. So have a little humility, my friend. We aren't the grandmasters so much as we are the pawns.
That said, may your house be blessed with a multitude of children. They are the greatest gift from God we'll ever receive in our lifetime, and if you're a decent man they'll make you all the more so.Replies: @Marat Said
So Rep. King's lack of appreciation for all children can be seen as echoing Haman's lack of appreciation for the Jewish children in ancient Persia, another multi-ethnic empire.
Now, Haman's extended kin were exterminated in revenge for Haman's plot, but that is a whole other story.Replies: @Opinionator, @Bill, @Achmed E. Newman
Possibly this should have been in the previous posts about the feminists and the tent-dwellers, but I just don’t understand men’s fascination with certain women:
You’ve got your Cleopatra’s and such, sure (she looked reasonably hot in the movies), but now I read: “Mean Old Haman was determined to exterminate the Jewish people of the Persian Empire until Esther used her charms on the Persian King to save the day. ”
How is that even possible? Are we talking about the same Esther here?
or am I just talking out my ass?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aGV6PRD0oU
"After David Duke's gone, you wonder who the media will use to use as their measuring stick for evil."
I would say Richard Spencer, but Spencer's much more smarter and sophisticated than Duke.Replies: @Twinkie, @Maj. Kong, @ben tillman, @europeasant
Richard Spencer?
Except for two instances in MSM. He got caught being sucker punched and someone claimed he did a hitler salute. Maybe he learned he’s still young. Last time I got sucked punched was when I was 16.
Irish millennial,
Very uplifting news about you, your spouse and future progeny.
Keep up the good work. Ireland and the West need people like you, your spouse and family to be.
Don’t worry, Steve King is still a cuck like everyone else:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/steve-king-defends-somebody-else-s-babies-remarks-n732741
Anonguy, I would hope most people read iSteve, along with a majority of unz, because they like to read the truth, not because it’s forbidden fruit. If truthtelling in media is ever in vogue again, I’d have so many sites to read that I’d never get anything done. Another drawback would be that I wouldn’t be able to get a comment in edgewise. That’d be a small price to pay for a post-PeakStupidity world though.
I’ll keep writing, and you young un’ keep quacking, tweeting, twittering and all that – knock yourselves out. It looks like we’re starting to make a small dent in the driver’s side quarter-panel of the Stupid. Next step, call in the Carolina Crusher.*
* What, not a monster-truck fan?
Censorship of political discourse corrupts all of a society's discourse. The communists are a good example, ruled large swaths of the world for generations and created virtually nothing of merit in arts/letters.
Same for other totalitarian regimes, Nazis were into kitsch too, just like PC, just like communists, it is the mark of the dead weight of tyranny on a society.
Aye, we’ve twins on the way here in Ohio.
Keep up the Spirits, ye hardy.
She was good enough for B.B.King, why not for the Persian king?
You just won’t be happy unless and until someone such as Rep. King says “America is only for white people; the rest of you can go jump in the ocean,” would you?
He took a remarkably bold stance for a mainstream politician. Be reasonable.
My finances and my liberty (which naturally includes missed opportunities). Divorce is mostly the cause of the former, but the latter would have happened anyway. Parenthood is a form of martyrdom, which is a good thing, but it’s often painful. I ended up having to fight to be a father, but I don’t regret it at all.
I’m not saying this to dissuade you. Not by any means. I just think people should be prepared.
If you’re that mature, great! But consider: if most people were so cautious in matters of love the human race would have died out long ago. So have a little humility, my friend. We aren’t the grandmasters so much as we are the pawns.
That said, may your house be blessed with a multitude of children. They are the greatest gift from God we’ll ever receive in our lifetime, and if you’re a decent man they’ll make you all the more so.
Merces, fructus ventris
Behold the inheritance of the Lord, children:
A reward, the fruit of the womb.
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A groundswell of right-wing outside agitators like Spencer gives encouragement to those both inside the system (like Rep. King) and the Alt-Right/proto-Alt-Right amongst the general public. Also, SJW opposition to Spencer and MSM coverage of Spencer helps the Alt-Right message, because it spreads the Alt-Right message. It’s like with Trump—the MSM thought “Here’s a garish buffoon saying crazy things, who thinks he has a chance. Let’s give him maximum exposure and he’ll implode, hahaha!” Whoops. Maybe, if he isn’t first killed overseas attempting to win Muslim ‘hearts and minds’ in your alt-timeline. He’s too young to be washed up. If anything, his fame/notoriety and public exposure to his advocacy is steadily accelerating, dovetailing with the current populist rightward drift in European and American politics. As for quangocrat, I’m not sure what Spencer has to do with government. Does the NPI get public funding?
Skimming your comment history, it seems that we are basically in agreement on many things, so I hope I’m not coming off as hostile. But I’m left wondering, is your opposition to Spencer personal (you don’t like him), political (you don’t like his views), or both? Either are defendable positions, but you instead made a (IMHO) non-sequitur comparison to Moulton, with hints of class resentment.
Would you describe Steve Sailer as a washed-up market researcher?
P.S., I’ve never heard of Aaron Clarey before you linked to his channel. The guy seems to be a huckster with a complex about ‘rich kids.’ His videos look to be geared toward anxious younger dudes who’ve landed, or are trying to land, their first (entry level) full time job and who haven’t yet outgrown Axe body spray.
Is that accurate market research? :)Replies: @Maj. Kong
personal, I’m sure that I have philosophical differences with Spencer, as I also do with Mike Cernovich, but I fundamentally consider Cernovich a more likable person. I have mixed feelings about the military itself, since back when I was 18 I was abjectly opposed to being conscripted or worse, leading conscripts in a reckless land invasion of Iran. But I do recognize that it tests leadership like few other things. We should probably be thankful that Paul Ryan bummed around in his 20s rather than enlisting.
Guilty as charged
Your president cannot deport us.
Your president cannot prevent us from arriving
your laws serve us.
your courts support us.
your women adore us.
your media is our voice.
your money is our money.
we use your society against you. we use your principles to destroy you. we use your government to enslave you.
Why would we leave? We will own this place...We will own you.
Allahu AkbarReplies: @lavoisier, @dc.sunsets
Tolerance ends with the bull market in stocks.
Don’t count your chickens quite yet (assuming this isn’t a brilliant Alt-Right troll job.)
It’s a troll-job, though I wouldn’t call it brilliant.
“We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.”
George Orwell
I'll keep writing, and you young un' keep quacking, tweeting, twittering and all that - knock yourselves out. It looks like we're starting to make a small dent in the driver's side quarter-panel of the Stupid. Next step, call in the Carolina Crusher.*
* What, not a monster-truck fan?Replies: @anonguy
This is true, we do seem to be in some peak stupidity/self-censorship era. There is so little interesting being written these days.
Censorship of political discourse corrupts all of a society’s discourse. The communists are a good example, ruled large swaths of the world for generations and created virtually nothing of merit in arts/letters.
Same for other totalitarian regimes, Nazis were into kitsch too, just like PC, just like communists, it is the mark of the dead weight of tyranny on a society.
I can, but I wasn’t the one making the argument.
Further, your argument assumes that some bureaucrat in a position of authority could be depended upon to not only correctly identify that tiny subset of immigrants that would be positive contributors (in ALL ways: culturally, net tax payer, etc) but to act in a trustworthy manner on that information. Fewer of these exist even than do these ephemeral immigrants.
Better to just turn off the faucet entirely. Those few people that would genuinely be additive..well we’ll just have to live without them.
I'm not saying this to dissuade you. Not by any means. I just think people should be prepared. If you're that mature, great! But consider: if most people were so cautious in matters of love the human race would have died out long ago. So have a little humility, my friend. We aren't the grandmasters so much as we are the pawns.
That said, may your house be blessed with a multitude of children. They are the greatest gift from God we'll ever receive in our lifetime, and if you're a decent man they'll make you all the more so.Replies: @Marat Said
Ecce haereditas Domini, filii:
Merces, fructus ventris
Behold the inheritance of the Lord, children:
A reward, the fruit of the womb.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/je5vzrt
(Vivaldi)